10/27/2025 NO MORE EBT DUE TO GOVT SHUTDOWN!! Plus Portland and ICE

Summary

The Antihero Podcast

Episode: "10/27/2025 NO MORE EBT DUE TO GOVT SHUTDOWN!! Plus Portland and ICE"
Date: October 27, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the hosts of The Antihero Podcast dig into the looming end of EBT/SNAP benefits due to the ongoing government shutdown and examine how this could ripple out with real-world consequences. They also dive deep into the dynamics of law enforcement in Portland, including police and ICE relations, and how local politics impact policing. The episode features candid discussions about the first responder/veteran community, generational welfare, police morale, public accountability, and a few lighter moments with listener call-ins and shoutouts.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. EBT/SNAP Payments and Government Shutdown (Main Theme)

• Immediate Crisis: Hosts explain that if the government shutdown is not resolved by November 1, EBT/SNAP benefits may not be paid, impacting 40 million Americans.
  • “[SNAP] possibly not coming in November 1st… the amount of problems that is going to be generated from not paying the people… is gonna be wild.” (A, 33:59)
• Underlying Issues:
  • The system was designed as temporary aid but has become generational dependence.
    • “It's meant to help. It's not meant to exist forever, but it’s turned into like a supplemental income. It's turned into an entire generation of income.” (A, 35:05)
  • Hosts debate if it should be time-limited and express mixed feelings about government assistance, drawing sharp analogies (e.g., “power outage at home” for resource allocation—see 42:36).
  • They anticipate unrest if benefits are interrupted: “If you stop EBT or snap come November 1st...everyone is going to feel this.” (A, 34:01)
• Political Calculations: Elected officials avoid reforming benefits to secure votes, even when dysfunction is obvious.
  • “If you do one thing against that you're out of office, you’re not going to win reelection... they don't care.” (B, 08:53)

2. Portland, ICE, and Local Police

• Complex Four-Way Dynamic: ICE, Portland police leadership, city council, and rank-and-file officers all operate under conflicting directives due to local sanctuary policies.
  • “Their hands are tied as cops. They're not legally allowed per ORS city code, to assist the feds with any immigration enforcement.” (B, 07:28)
  • “They're categorizing all seizures as kidnapping. So the PD is considering the federal agents taking custody people into custody as kidnapping.” (B, 07:46)
• Liaison/DLO officers: Dialogue Liaison Officers (DLOs) assigned to communicate with protesters and facilitate First Amendment rights—cannot take enforcement action.
  • “They’re called DLO program—dialogue liaison officers...their job is to try to communicate with protesters and facilitate their First Amendment right. They’re not supposed to take any law enforcement action.” (B, 10:09)
• Call-In Verification: Listener "Ben" confirms state's constitutional prohibition of local PD assisting ICE since 1984. Reprisals against cops who break this policy are severe:
  • “If a guy helps and he gets caught, he's done. They will burn him at the stake.” (E, 51:06)

3. The Culture and Evolution of the Show

• Mental Health in First Responders: The show grapples with finding a balance between humor and the gravity of mental health topics among first responders. The hosts recount pushback from some listeners:
  • “We had a guy who tried to kill himself explaining how he's now helping others...somehow we got called like morons...” (B, 02:13)
• Toxic Subculture: The first responder/veteran subculture’s resistance to vulnerability:
  • “It's toxic as fuck. Yeah, everybody's an asshole.” (A, 02:10)

4. Law Enforcement Morale, SWAT and Community Support

• Fundraising for Midland County SWAT Team: Direct call with SWAT member Luis (24:01-26:28) highlights lack of morale funding for police units, reliance on community donations.
• SWAT Standards & Police Recruitment: Discussion on the dilution of SWAT standards, nepotism, and how performance and fitness thresholds have softened in policing across America.
  • “Do you think they should have to maintain fitness?...Absolutely. Every SWAT guy that makes a standard on the team should be able to pass that at any given…” (A/B, 31:29)
• Generational Issues in Law Enforcement: Similar generational problems arise in policing as in welfare—subpar officers move up and become role models:
  • “You’re running out of high performing people... starting to allow subpar performance.” (B, 32:14)

5. ICE Masks, Doxxing, and Public Records

• ICE Agents’ Use of Masks: A message from an ICE agent explains why agents mask up due to real doxxing threats targeting families (16:51):
  • “You bet your ass I’m wearing a mask…I refuse for them to be subject to terrorist threats of violence.” (A, quoting ICE agent, 16:51)
• First Amendment and Privacy: Hosts discuss how public records access and the internet age were never anticipated by the founding fathers:
  • “Do you think that the First Amendment and public record, the way it sits today, intended for everyone to easily be able to access everyone else's address, location, home? I don't think it did.” (B, 18:18)

6. Calls from Listeners (Charity Shoutouts, Stories, and Banter)

• Charity Highlight: #CharityOfTheEpisode segment introduced. SWAT Christmas party highlighted. (22:04-26:53)
• Community Banter: Ongoing calls with listeners bring military/LE stories, friendly roasting, and inside jokes (see 90:00–96:29 “Clint’s Call” for an extended humorous recount of a live-fire exercise with the British military and Gurkhas).

7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On SNAP/EBT and Government Crisis

"If you stop EBT or snap come November 1st, if they don't figure it out, everyone is going to feel this."
— Host A, [33:59]

On Culture and Change in First Responder Sphere

"It's toxic as fuck. Yeah, everybody's an asshole."
— Host A, [2:10]

On ICE Agents Masking Up for Safety

"I signed up for this to enjoy this job. My wife and my family did not. And I refuse for them to be subject to terrorist threats of violence."
— Quoted ICE Agent, [16:51]

On Portland Police/ICE Dynamic

"It's as simple as that. But because they're doubling down on the sanctuary city stuff...their hands are tied as cops."
— Host B, summarizing tip from “boots on the ground,” [07:18]

On First Amendment & Doxxing

"The fact that we've taken it to like, I can subpoena your cell phone or...know where you live...it's backwards. ...We didn't [intend] that."
— Host B, [19:06]

On SWAT Standards

"Any SWAT guy that makes a standard on the team should be able to pass that standard any given..."
— Host B, [31:31]

On Intergenerational Welfare

"You have 40 million people who essentially...did nothing but not be able to get a job and not be able to eat...they're planning on being supported the rest of their lives.”
— Host B, [53:26]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Portland ICE/PD Deep Dive: 06:41–13:00, resumes with call-in at 48:20
• ICE Masking/Doxxing Info: 16:51–19:06
• Charity/Listener Call (Midland County SWAT): 22:04–26:53
• Main SNAP/EBT Segment (Societal Impact): 33:44–44:36, resumes 52:27–60:00
• On Public Records & Doxxing: 18:18–21:57
• Listener “Clint” Military Story: 90:00–96:29

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Tone and Style

• Language is frank, often darkly humorous, laced with first responder/veteran bravado and irreverence.
• The hosts blend in banter, personal anecdotes, strong opinions, and call-ins, maintaining a conversational, in-the-know tone for their audience.

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Summary for Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This wide-ranging episode captures real anxieties about the upcoming government shutdown, not just for welfare recipients but law enforcement and veterans as well. With a mix of policy analysis, agency gossip, and gallows humor, hosts break down how civic dysfunction—from Portland sanctuary city law to the generational spiral of SNAP—affects communities and first responders. Listener call-ins add authenticity and comic relief, especially around the intricacies and personalities in law enforcement. The podcast remains grounded in the first responder experience, continually reinforcing its "all truth" tagline—raw, opinionated, and unfiltered.

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Additional Resources

• For further support and bonus content, join their Patreon (see [01:23]).
• For those interested in supporting the Midland County SWAT Christmas party: contact Luis at [e-mail] (phonetic: Lima Golf Oscar Delta India November Alpha at Mike Charlie Oscar Uniform November Tango Yankee dot com).

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[A]

SA team for life. We're back. Good morning. It's Monday, October 27th. I have October 27th. Third.

[B]

I do see that.

[A]

Yeah, you did good. The HR broadcast is brought is here to bring you the best entertainment and information relevant to the first spawner veteran community. It's been a hell of a morning already. I swear to God. The other six days of the week go fine and Monday morning.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Well, this is not a show go find. He's having a bad day. It's all right. We're here. Let's go.

[A]

No, the show's gonna go great. Yeah, Jimmy is still sick. Said he's gonna be in the chats, but got a lot to talk about. The biggest one obviously is Snap possibly not coming in November 1st Portland cops police update and there is a carrier heading to Venezuela, but might have to call Jimmy and. And get his insight on that.

[B]

Yeah, don't forget Patreon, you guys, we appreciate your support in Patreon. We're posting videos almost every day. We're giving you guys an inside look at what goes on in our miserable lives. Just kidding. Workout stuff, leg jokes, all that good stuff. So please support us by Patreon. Don't Forget Thursday morning, 11 to 1. We'll be right back here. And then Thursday night. The Night Shift on Counterculture is the new show where we break down videos, hang out, the boys more relaxed environment and got a little serious last week, which was, I think was good.

[A]

The Thursday night show. Yeah. So it. That show is supposed to be fun. Everybody got upset when we were fun and then when it got serious, everybody.

[B]

Got called homos for having fucking mental health discussion.

[A]

So I don't really, you know, I don't, I don't get. I don't get the first responder in Veteran.

[B]

No, it's brutal.

[A]

It's toxic as fuck. Yeah, everybody's an asshole.

[B]

We had everything from a guy who tried to kill himself explaining how he's now like a helping other people and, and getting back into law enforcement to having Sal's mom on and somehow we got called like morons for having that part of the show. Get serious. Yeah, it's. We're getting there. We'll find our audience at some point.

[A]

No, I mean the show's supposed to be just that. It's supposed to be a good time. And if we have serious conversation, we do. And you know that that show offers for a lot more guests, you know, a lot more stories and experiences. We had our. We had a firefighter on, you know, we had veterans on it was a good time.

[B]

No, that's what it's going to be. And I think what you're still seeing is. It's almost done is you have people that were just indoctrinated to the way the old show was. Anytime there's change, it's going to be a different flow. But like even being on it, but an outsider looking in. Those topics and what we talked about were very important. And it's. I mean, do you want it to be a comedy all the time? Do you want it. It should just flow. It shouldn't be like, we're just going to be serious or we're just going to be funny. And then something serious comes up like him talking about a suicide attempt and we just go, we're not going to talk about. That's not funny. Like, I think it's. That's what it is. Bunch of dudes just sitting around. People can interact and. And we kind of go with it.

[A]

Yeah. So, you know, with all that stuff going on, that was still a good time, though. The clips that are. Are able to be made out of that is. Is really good. We put out the one. Oh, my God, the ice agent.

[B]

Oh, we're gonna go. Yeah, let's go with that.

[A]

So I made a joke about. And I want to. I'll apologize if. If I didn't mean anything by it. I said the homeboy with the flight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's like. I mean, like my apologies kind of. I'm sorry for hurting anyone's feelings.

[B]

Remember, this is list. This is entertainment.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you want news and what your version of news is, go watch FOX News or cnn. They're tell you exactly what they want you to hear.

[A]

They're not cops.

[B]

No. They're going to guide you down the path of what sales they want. So are we going to say stuff that maybe hurts some feelings or maybe even we're just ignorant to it? Like, I had no idea that there's a laser blocking helmet.

[A]

I did not know.

[B]

But then I look around and the other five guys aren't wearing one. So why if one guy's. He's. He's the last one standing if everybody starts getting blinded by lasers.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I talked to Jimmy on the phone last night a little bit about it, you know, and he was curious because he doesn't have any law enforcement experience and he's like, you know, why does he need the laser helmet while doing traffic stop? Because I was like, hey, some of the people in the comments were saying he's srt for ice, which is like the ICE swat. And that's why. And I'm like, you know, he's doing traffic stops in suburbia, which he might have a ride to do. We don't know, we don't know why they stopped these people. We don't have any context to it. Yeah, the federal government.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[B]

But yeah, he, yes, it looked funny. So it's like I would expect you.

[A]

To make if you not come off.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. If you, if I, I would expect you in the first responder cop world if you see me doing something that looks stupid. Our culture makes fun of each other first. That's how we get along. That's how we, you know, so it's not like the ones I post where, you know, recruiting posts go out and the magazines are unaccessible on the vest of a person that's putting a recruiting out for an agency. And I'm just like, they look cool, man. Yeah, it doesn't look cool. Yo, he looked cool. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

But I mean a lot of people just split down the middle again with pretty much anything we post. A lot of people were upset.

[B]

They were like, you, the messages are crazy. Some of the comments are crazy too. Yeah, I, I stay out of it. I'm not, I don't, I'm not the only one.

[A]

Pump and dump, post and ghost.

[B]

Yeah, I mean this is different than, like I said, you get on the news, they read you and they, they have an agenda of what they're supposed to say to you. That's my belief of all this. And then here we are. We'll make a mistake. We'll mispronounce a word. We'll say pastor instead of pastor. I'll say and antifa instead of antifa. And we'll get made.

[A]

Well, and also, I mean, so when you get really raw information, it's hard to, you know, if I like for the guy from Ukraine, there's no one like verifying what he like, it's not going through what the news considered a verification process. He's there, he's saying it. And you know, people like, oh well, you know, this, that and the other thing about people calling in or they're like, you know, like the, the cop. Where do you get this information? In Portland, we get it from the cops and the DMs.

[B]

Yeah, I have a whole update on Portland from a guy on the ground.

[A]

You want to do that?

[B]

Yeah, we can talk about that. So we talked about Portland last week where we got we were seeing ICE agents. It looked like Portland police assisting Antifa in filing complaints against the Portland police. So I talked to somebody on the ground out there, and I don't want to mess it up. Basically where they are now is that they're 100% capable of retaking the city and getting rid of Antifa as they stand. No problem. He said it's as simple. Simple as that. But because they're doubling down on the sanctuary city stuff from the city council, their. Their hands are tied as cops. They're not legally. This is right here. They're not legally allowed per ORS city code, to assist the feds with any immigration informed enforcement. They're not allowed per policy.

[A]

Pd.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. So we go out of our way to give the appearance. So they're the good guys on the ground that are still holding the line the best they can without getting fired are still showing up in the area and playing deflection for the feds, but they're told not to. And they're just.

[A]

They're just trying to keep the blue line.

[B]

And he said they recently passed a directive to document any federal activity, and they're categorizing all seizures as kidnapping. So the pda, PD is considered the federal agents taking custody people into custody as kidnapping.

[A]

So there's three elements to this. What's going on? There's ICE doing their ICE operations. There were. There's the Portland police brass with their city council. City council. And then there's the cops, the Portland PD cops. So there's three things, and the cops are.

[B]

There's actually four because you have to split down the middle of the cops. Oh, cops that are just gonna do what they're told like good little boys. And then you have the cops that say, I'm gonna show up, I'm gonna run deflection, and I'm gonna do the best I can and I'll get fired, but I'm gonna make sure these guys aren't getting beat up with rocks and killed like dirt. So you have a whole move, a lot of moving parts there. But the bottom line is, per Boots on the ground, they could like that, that the antifa would be gone and there'd be no problems and everything would be fine and the feds could operate.

[A]

Why? But why aren't they?

[B]

Because they're doubling down on a sanctuary city and they want the votes. And it's just. It's just at this point, you got to understand that the city is the overwhelming Democrat. So anything that goes against, if you do one Thing against that you're out of office, you're not going to win re election. So you got to stand on there and support the corruption or you're gone. And they're just doing it to for salaries and that's all the city council is doing. They don't care. It's not about protection of the citizens. It's not about protection of the cops. It's not about taking the city over and giving it a safe environment. We're going to stand here, let them protest and let the feds get rockstarned at them so I can get reelected. And all the people think I support, you know, their beliefs. That's all it is right now.

[A]

Okay. And the. Did he describe the liaison officers that were in the video that we, we posted?

[B]

He didn't get it too much into that but they're basically being, that's what their job is to like.

[A]

So we, we showed a video from X. I think it was last Monday or Thursday.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was what we understood as Portland cops assisting Antifa in documenting ice. Turns out that they are with the police department but it sounds like there's, there's, they're like community liaison officer.

[B]

It's, they're, they're called DLO program dialogue Late liaison officers. Does that mean the stupid in the white shirts you see all over the media? Their job is to try to communicate with protesters and facilitate their first amendment right. They're not supposed to take any law enforcement action. So you have armed hired police that are planted to sympathize with Antifa and make them feel comfortable while they protest. And they're not allowed to do anything law enforcement related. I mean I don't know how you even.

[A]

I mean aren't civilians supposed to do like parking tickets and take fraud reports?

[B]

Yeah, they can but this is like to me it's, I'm telling you, it's terrorism. The city council is terrorists. They're terrorists. They're there. They're supporting the overthrow of immigration agents by allowing this and making these directive to not cooperate.

[A]

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[B]

No. All right, I will give an update though while you're looking for that. Our saladrati update obviously please follow that story. They can't find a use of force expert to the prosecutor that illegally indicted Sal. Can't find a use of force expert to say this shooting was not justified. So the Sal gets an email Sunday or Tuesday, Friday nights this weekend that they found one state final use of force export. We'll see in court Monday. Turns out the use of force expert they found was actually previously vetted by Sal's people and was it was going to be used by them potentially and had already cleared Sal and said the shooting was not was justified. So the state paid and hired somebody to come to court that was going to say it was not justified when he indeed already had found out. So Sal goes back to court this morning, walks in his his team presents this and they say well that guy's not gonna work. So you got three more weeks to find another one.

[A]

What happens if they don't find another one?

[B]

Just keep getting continued that's what I'm saying at this point. Like the demand for. I don't know where Sal is with it as far as his personal life, but the demand for speedy trial now would be like, we want a trial. You have to have a trial now. So that they put the demand on the state, like, let's go. They can't find either. It's impossible. You're not going to find anybody that says that's not justified. And the fact that the government can continue to drag this out week after week.

[A]

You know, every single state attorney's office in the country is following this case. They want to see how it's played out, whether they're corrupt like the one that Sal's going through, or they're actually the good guys trying to prosecute bad guys. I mean, everybody's following.

[B]

It's like anything else. If it. Once something goes so long. Is it really that bad? You know, it's not bad. If this was like a murder, that's. That prosecutor is going to be like, we, we're, we're ready tomorrow, we're ready to go. Let's get this over with. You're talking years. And now we're playing the every three weeks court date. Imagine like we talked about. You get the email, the email from your department, you got a complaint on your. Whatever it is. You know the stress of that. Now think what he's been through. And every three weeks he gets another fucking jerk around from the New Jersey Attorney General's office about another hiccup, another problem. And now he's got to wait another three weeks, live his life best he can. I can only imagine the night before. Like last night we were talking his Eagles beat my Giants. I, I heard all about it. But now he's got a process of football game. Had a decent Sunday. Now he's got to go to court Monday, deal with all that and then continue to. Now the clock starts over for three more weeks. Living that life again. That's taking years off your life. Man, that is mentally impossible to deal with.

[A]

Well, he's got pipe hitter, foundation Eddie Gallagher behind him.

[B]

Now he's got us behind him 100. I bought about the glasses. I got the. Yeah, I bought the meta knockoff ones. I wasn't gonna spend 400 bucks. I want to test it first, but I bought the recording glasses and I'm ready to, ready to start doing something with that.

[A]

Lewis, you need tissues?

[B]

You got tissue? Lewis? Little paper towel work.

[A]

What about toilet paper?

[B]

I was so old that we didn't have tissues. We use leaves off of trees. I'll get it for you.

[A]

Yeah, Michael gets you, you can put it back on me. I'm gonna go through what this ICE agent. Wow. Mike gets loose. Tissues. Yeah. Thank you. Are you sick? Yep. Everybody's sick, man.

[B]

Well, I have a mask here, so it doesn't. It's not a problem.

[A]

How is Jimmy not here?

[B]

Okay. I'm sorry for rousing.

[A]

So we got a DM from.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

We got a DM from an ICE agent. Obviously doesn't want any of his. Any of his name. And he says ICE officer here. In the past two months we've had a supervisor and a regular officer doxxed parents, addresses, building numbers and apartment numbers posted on social media. You bet your ass I'm wearing a mask. I signed up for this to enjoy this job. My wife and my family did not. And I refuse for them to be subject to terrorist threats of violence. What do you think about that? I think that's a great point.

[B]

It is a great point, but.

[A]

Let.

[B]

Me play liberal Mike.

[A]

Yeah, play liberal Mike. You call it devil's advocate. I call liberal Mike.

[B]

I mean, the way we blast criminals and their families when they do something wrong.

[A]

I mean, but they're not doing anything wrong. They're doing the job.

[B]

Yeah, but some people think it's wrong. I can't defend this one. I agree with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I tried. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it goes back to the argument. I mean, if there. If he was. If he was on the border of Mexico and the U. S doing his job or in Canada or wherever the. They usually do and he wanted to wear a mask, it'd be different because that's his job. But when they deploy these guys into civil unrest to combat antifa, they do that does not give a shit about putting your address. In fact, they will put your address hoping that someone goes and harms you. So.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's like it would be no different than us going, you got three brothers, one sells drugs. Now we automatically target the other two guys not knowing anything about them or any of their background or their mom or dad and say, now because that dude sells drugs or is a criminal, you guys must all be criminals too. Like, his family doesn't deserve to be outed. And that goes back to me, the whole public record thing. Do you think that the first amendment and public record, the way it sits today, intended for everyone to easily be able to access everyone else's address, location, home? I don't think it did. I think it definitely Stood for, like peaceful protest, exercising rights, standing up to the government. But I think it went a little too far when we started handing out addresses and people's home addresses and stuff. It's. It doesn't seem, especially now.

[A]

I mean, you, you keep bringing up that point that that's not what the founding fathers meant.

[B]

There's no way.

[A]

I just. Now I. Well, you first brought it up outside the, the venue in Philly when we were live. And I was like, that is such a good point. We always focused on the founding Fathers, not what they meant about second Amendment. Right. Like if they. People argue on both sides, if they knew how tyrannical the government could really become, they would be like, you must bear arms. Yes, if they knew the other side says, you know, if they knew what arms were going to become, they would have limited it. But at the end of the day, they also did not know. They couldn't even fathom the information boom that happened 20 years ago.

[B]

To me, the Second Amendment is the easiest one to defend and not argue with because their goal was to allow citizens to be armed, to not let the government overstep their boundaries. That's simple. You get in the freedom of press that was to print stuff in the paper, religion, assembly, all that stuff. The fact that we've taken it to like, I can subpoena your cell phone or I can, I can know where you live. I have to know where you live and it's on public record. And you have to like ask to be removed. And only certain people can be removed, which is government officials and, and all that. To me, it's backwards. It's like, we didn't that. Why would you. In like, you're creating an opportunity to go after people at their home. And it doesn't seem, it doesn't matter.

[A]

You cannot hide. You can sit there. Cops are offered this service all the time. Then they're, they're offered for free. You can go hide your address if you're a cop. Most states and counties allow it, but there's just. It's a workaround. It just makes it harder. But at the end of the day, they can get it. You know, people have access to databases for their jobs.

[B]

But now let's say you get. No, let's say you just get in a car crash and you have a huge argument, disagreement. Cop comes and works it and you guys are beefing that you can go home and be like.

[A]

Before you give him your address.

[B]

That part. But okay, let's say you guys just get an argument. You don't you don't get it. You get an argument, but you know his name. The police don't take a report. He's getting a bitch a match. I'm a fuck you up, you up. And then they show the separate ways. Cops are never taking a report for that. But I know his name because I heard the cop ask his name and all that stuff. Now I can go home and go, all right, property appraiser, where's this live? Now I start driving by his house. I don't. I don't think that was what was intended for us to know all that. Obviously, back then you had to ride a horse like, 27 miles to the neighbor's house, so they didn't think to be houses on top of each other either. But I. I don't like that part of the First Amendment. Protest, peaceful protest, stand up to the government, religion, assembly, all that stuff. Absolutely. But I think we've gone too far. They never figure technology would be where it is, where we can access so much stuff so quickly, and it becomes a problem.

[A]

Oh, man, we gotta do our, like, what do you call it? A charity of the episode.

[B]

Yeah, we're gonna start doing highlighting. Somebody that needs some help or reaches out to us, and any of you are welcome to do so. There's no rhyme or reason. Obviously, we can't do 100 of them a day, but we'll kind of go through.

[A]

If you have a do one a day.

[B]

Yeah. Charity. And we. We'll just, you know, us morons will pick it based on our brain cells.

[A]

It's actually so funny. I don't think his first name's Trunk, and I don't think his last name's Godina, but he's in our Patreon and he messaged us on platforms about the Midland County Sheriff's Office Texas SWAT team getting ready for their annual Christmas party. They need a couple bucks. So I told him.

[B]

I told him.

[A]

I give him a call. Hopefully he answers.

[B]

And don't forget, you guys can call and text in. I'll give you. I'll put the number in there real quick.

[A]

Yo, what up, man? It's Tyler from Anti Air. You're on. Not much. So we call it. Have you kind of give some context to the. The SWAT Christmas party and that you guys need, you know, a little bit of help and the importance of that Christmas party for morale and all that stuff. Yeah.

[D]

So our Christmas party is December 12th. We've got just a couple donations from, like, local businesses as far as, like, door prizes and stuff. Like that. Trying to get some stuff for the guys. A lot of the stuff for the Christmas party as far as the venue and food and drinks and everything is coming out of our own pocket, since our department don't really have, like, a morale budget or anything like that.

[A]

So we're just trying to get some.

[D]

Help to kind of like, you know, keep our own morale up for everyone else.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I mean, what's. What's the best way for people to. To. To donate or at least get information on how to. Obviously they can go through us and we'll point them in the right direction, but if they don't want to go through us, what's the best way?

[D]

Yeah, they can send me an email. My email is L, G, O, D, I, N A M county dot com.

[A]

At. What county?

[D]

At M County is Midland, but it's abbreviated, so it's just M county dot com.

[A]

All right, give me the whole thing in phonetics.

[D]

It's L.

[A]

Phonetic, like the phonetic Alphabet.

[B]

It's.

[D]

It's.

[A]

Do you know the phonetic George?

[D]

Yeah, yeah. So it's Lincoln, George, Ocean, David, Ida, Nora, Adam, the AT sign, and then Mary Charles, Ocean, Union, Nora, Tom, Young, calm.

[A]

All right, brother. Yeah. So it's. It. We want to make sure that, you know, you guys are able to get your Christmas party, even if people sent, you know, 5 bucks, 10 bucks, 20 bucks, you know. Oh, a lot of our listeners, you know, that could go a long way when it comes to your. Your, you know, not having to fund it for yourselves. You.

[D]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, whatever they want to help out with, you know, it's. Y' all want to send like, like merge or if there's other, like, small businesses as far as military, first responder businesses, if they want to send merch or coupons to their websites or anything like that, you know, we'll pass it out to our guys and have them go and buy some stuff.

[A]

Yeah. Do you guys. Are you guys doing any raffles or anything?

[D]

As of right now, not really. It's mainly just kind of like door prizes and stuff like that. I know. We are handing out awards for operator of the year, Most fit, top shot, and we. We pretty much had to buy our. Our own awards.

[A]

Are you getting any of those awards?

[D]

I actually am. I'm getting the top shot award for the SWAT team.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

What kind of gun you shoot?

[A]

Mike asked what kind of gun you shoot.

[B]

Say it.

[D]

Shooting your favorite.

[B]

Say it. Beautiful. Beautiful. That's why you're the top shot. Beautiful. I thought you're Gonna say staccato, but that's even better.

[A]

What's your.

[B]

What's your first.

[D]

That's too fancy.

[A]

What's your first name?

[D]

My first name is Luis.

[A]

Okay, cool. All right, Luis. We will, we will. I'll be in touch after the show, see what we can do for you. And then hopefully everybody can, you know, help out any way they can so you guys can have a good Christmas party, boost morale. Because it's brass sucks.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, it is what it is, but all we can do is just help each other out on the team and keep morale up and make sure everyone's always ready to go.

[A]

All right, man. Give the best to the, the boys on the team from us.

[D]

I sure will, brother. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[A]

All right there, bud.

[B]

I knew somebody was gonna comment.

[A]

What'd they say?

[B]

The fucking phonetic Alphabet was wild. It's a wild ride.

[A]

Well, there's different ones. See that I don't.

[B]

He didn't. Not one of the ones he said was one of the ones I would say.

[A]

Pineapple helmet, microphone.

[B]

He was saying, I'm like, right? And I'm like, this is bad.

[A]

Heather sent me.

[B]

I guess she recorded it down, but I got it. I wrote it.

[A]

You got it. All right, one more time. It is Lima, Golf, Oscar, Delta, India, November, Alpha at Mike, Charlie, Oscar, uniform, November, tango, yankee.com. so l godina.com and he shoots his sig.

[B]

So give them extra five bucks. Yeah, might need to help if it shoots him in the leg. So that's wild, right? What if they like banana, Elephant. No, that part's real wild. No support.

[A]

I mean, obviously he can't sit there and go, yeah, them. No, but, you know, I don't know, man. I. I see. I usually see SWAT teams getting the best treatment. It's like the football. It's like the football team at a high school or a college. Like they are going to get all the funding, you know?

[B]

So Miami Dade swap our buddy Frank Rigo. His boys just won a national competition over the weekend.

[A]

Do they have a competition team?

[B]

Yes, and they have a full time team. So they're all full time. Huge.

[A]

What's it. So what's. What are the two Miami.

[B]

There's Miami SWATI pd, Miami Police Department, and then there's Miami Dade Sheriff's Office, Miami Dade swat.

[A]

Are they competing? Like, are they equally as?

[B]

I don't know. I only know the Miami day guys and they used to be Miami Dade Police Department. Now they're Miami Dade Sheriff's Office. But they're full time team and we get their name right, we don't get it wrong because there's competition. It's. Miami police is different than Miami Dade Sheriff's office. But the Miami Dade boys just won a pretty big competition. I saw a picture of it and Frank sent me a message. Yeah, but it's. I guess it's where you're at. I mean, imagine California, so busy paying taxes for the homeless and everything that the agencies have a tough time funding SWAT stuff and extra stuff. And it's one of those things. It's like you want your team to be ready for that super critical incident. Part of the morale of the team is competitions. You know, alpha males like to compete in things. Weightlifting, shooting competition, SWAT competition. So it's like your reward should be, hey, you signed up to do this miserable job to get called out all hours of night barricades, all this stuff. So we're gonna allow you to go compete and like represent the agency in the area you want. And I think it's great. But agencies under fun, you know what they do fund more is like the silly traffic competitions and stuff. I say silly, I don't want to hit you on everybody, but they like the little motorcycle competition that never seems to be unfunded and like all the community stuff like, okay, so there's a.

[A]

SWAT needs to be protected as the idea for swat, because if you lose the, what do you call that? The, the reason why everybody wants to be there. The grand. Like if you lose that and it just becomes a regular unit, you're not gonna get the best of the best. Ready to go on.

[B]

This already happening?

[A]

Yeah, I know it's already happened, but.

[B]

But, but I bet it Agent like the Miami day. I know it's not happening, but smaller agencies are trying to get to that tier one level.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're not even close. So they buy fancy guns and like guys buy jacked up trucks just to, you know, make it seem like they're better.

[A]

It's treating your SWAT team good and having, you know, the, the, what do you call that? A little extra getting treated a little bit differently at your agency. It all comes with the. I mean, it is, it's like wearing the, the football jersey in high school.

[B]

You know, but, but you have to act differently. And I don't mean differently like be a fucking retard. You have to perform. You should. If you're, if you get to that level. Nobody should walk up and be like, look at this football bat. Oh yeah, he's a SWAT guy on Top of it. Like you're gonna be put onto that cream of the crop you want to carry gun. You should be taking the best reports. You should be putting the most effort in on calls. If you're still in patrol or whatever unit. You don't just get to be a turd because you did 100 push ups and climbed a rope and can run really fast. Like do you. That should be a well rounded position. So you should be. When somebody shows up and says that guy's a SWAT guy, it's not like the old days. The old SWAT guys were like just monsters. They were huge. But now you have kind of a hybrid.

[A]

Do you think they should have to maintain fitness?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Like the same that they got in?

[B]

Absolutely. Every SWAT guy that makes a standard on the team shouldn't be able to pass that standard. Any given.

[A]

And this Monday the standard is when you were that fit to get on the team. It should be. Yeah, it should be. Maybe somebody could argue like 90 day notice, you know, especially after an injury or something like that. But you know, at the end of the day, you know, you see guys on teams that are out of shape, they can't shoot, they have awful tactics. And you ask how are they on the team?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And who they know or who's, who's their dad?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Family lineage. If they got a dad and a great example.

[B]

Yeah, that's a great example.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Who's their dad?

[A]

Or everybody's like his dad as a dad's a legend.

[B]

It's, it's the continuation of the lack of accountability that you're seeing in promotions and administration that guys that are making it to those levels because you're running out of high performing people. So now it's trickled down to even the, a unit like SWAT that should be super squared away. You're starting to allow subpar performance.

[A]

Even specialized units in the military. I mean, let's just talk specialized conventional. You know, if you do a conventional job in the military, but then another job opens up that requires you to be a little bit better than the other guys on your, on your, you know, level. Those standards have to be met at all times. You can't just train, get it and then become somebody that can't maintain the standard because you, you're a bad poster child for what that represents. So like, like medics, you know, you can be a fat Navy medic that goes and works at the hospital and does YouTube videos, or you can be a Navy corpsman that goes out and joins the, the Marines on the line and takes care of a fucking entire platoon medically. You could be either one.

[C]

Could.

[A]

You had a choice to do one. I mean if you can't get good PT scores, maybe they don't let you on the line, but anyways, that being said, I know everybody knows who I'm talking about. You got some we. Oh, let's, let's bring it to the topic of the evening morning.

[B]

Whatever the we're at morning.

[A]

The. I got a laugh out of Lewis over there.

[B]

He's got a mask on today. I like it. We're in Portland. I feel like we're in Portland.

[A]

I never thought about this because I'm so used to the handout people in the, in our country always getting what they want. But the amount of problems that is going to be generated from not paying the people that you've been paying their entire lives, that's a paycheck to them. Now they're, they're, they, they're not people that they don't. They've been getting it their entire lives. If you stop EBT or snap come November 1st, if they don't figure it out, everyone is going to feel this.

[B]

Yeah. And this to me is the same. It lines up with immigration. You allowed people to come in the country illegally for a very long time and now you're seeing what it's taken to stop it and now enforce it and the pushback. You've allowed people to get free benefits for their entire life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Never. No. No motivation to get a job. No motivation to better themselves. You've allowed them and I would say mediocre because that's not even the right way. It's not mediocre. It's sub medioc.

[A]

Well, it's meant to help. It's not meant to exist forever, but.

[B]

It'S turned into like a supplemental income. It's turned into an entire generation of income.

[A]

Do you think it should be limited? Like you only get it for a year?

[B]

Because you should have. Yeah. You should be always, you should always be trying to improve. You should be trying to improve, get better and do something to not have to rely on somebody else. Always. And when you created generations of people, bro, they're having kids just to get more money though. You cannot tell me that it's not the case now government and then on top of it get tax refunds and it's just a generation over generation of regeneration. And it to me it falls all the way back to elected officials want to stay in office. If they buck that, they're going to Lose the votes of an entire community.

[A]

Oh, that's easy. PR night stunt.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

He took, he's taken the feet off.

[B]

Yeah. He voted to agree that, you know, we should limit SNAP benefits or require job applications to be put in to get.

[A]

Because you can't collect unemployment forever.

[B]

No.

[A]

Which is obviously paying people to. That are. To. Unemployment is way more money than you got.

[B]

People who file for unemployment while they're still a cop. That can happen.

[A]

But. Yeah. I mean, do you think that, that, you know.

[B]

It'S a, it's a tough thing. Here's what I don't.

[A]

We set ourselves up for failure.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. I don't want to see people just roaming, not being able to eat and feed themselves. That's not, that's not the answer. But we have created a situation where. What? There's no real good answer to this.

[A]

No, you're right. And we've created a. We've created a culture in, in cities with generational poverty of fatherless lawlessness culture. Leaving the mother to take care of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 kids at some point. Yes, it is the mother's fault for continuing to have offspring with shitty dudes. But you know, 1, 2, 3 kids and she's working two jobs to support them. That's what government assistant is. That's. To me, I don't, I don't really care. Care. You know, obviously they take my money out of taxes so I don't get a say in where it goes. But if I did get a saying where it goes, if there was a mother and she was working a job and then working at night to provide and she still didn't have enough money because there's no male father figure, I'm okay with that. That, that, that's what it's meant for. Right?

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

I mean, I would think that's what.

[B]

It'S on a temporary be. I mean, minimum. My wife is going over minimum wage increases. Like our minimum wage is way up. Like minimum wage now is almost what I started as a cop as. There's. So there's minimum wage jobs.

[A]

What is it, 25 an hour?

[B]

No, 15, I think. But you know, it went, it went like 10 years in like the 90s. She was doing math. I don't remember the exact numbers. I should listen and write it down. I know she's gonna tell me I should have wrote down. So I said something about writing down. But there was like a 10 year stretch where minimum wage went from like 505 to 585 in 10 years. Now it's gone in the last 10 years, like way up. So you take that, a regular job, and then maybe you could decrease your bet, but nobody's going to give benefits back. That's almost like going in the casino and going, we're going to give you two thousand dollar free play for staying in our casino. And you go, well, I made five grand this month on my job. I did really well. Just give me a thousand instead of 2000 because I got plenty of my own money. You're never going to give money back. So unless the government starts to pull it back and then what's the problem? They're races. They're monsters. Yeah, they're, they're this, that and the other. You're taking our food out of our mouth. It's like, no, there's 340 million people in the United States and 40 million of them are getting free money to just walk around and do nothing. Any other model of any other business, any other thing. If you had 40 million of 3,340 million doing nothing, nobody would vote. Like, let's just keep letting them do nothing. Like, nah, dude, you got to do something. You got to do something.

[A]

Do you think that this, let's put our conspiracy caps on. Do you think they, they, they know this is going to cause civil unrest so they don't, or do you think this is just a, it's, how did, I mean, I'm retarded, so I get how I didn't see it. But how did we not see this in the first like congressional hearing when this stuff was brought up like a, a government shutdown? Have we never gone to the first in a government shutdown? This is the longest one, right?

[B]

It's close. Trump's had one that was just about.

[A]

As long, but no, it never went into the next.

[B]

I don't remember hearing about snap benefits getting cut the last one. But you know, the military pay was up there and all this other stuff. But yeah, now we're to the point. It's like, but that, that, that shows the importance of, not of funding the government. Now you have two sides that are just drawn lines in the sand and who suffers if you're, if you're on the side, even if you hate Trump and you're on the side of those 40 million people, then you've got to tell your people to get this government back under fund, back funded to keep these people getting their money. And now there's a big line and I don't know who's going to cross it first and who's going to break down. And.

[A]

Well, so of course people are blaming Trump for this, but this has nothing to do with Trump. Were they, were they going to allow SNAP to continue? I don't see like a government shutdown is something that's in place every single month. So I went through it last night after I got off phone with you and me and Heather looked at it and it was okay, so. And Jimmy kind of cleared up the. The ebt. The EBT system is the financial system that is used to distribute the federally funded SNAP program. So SNAP federally gives all the money to the states to do what they want with it. And I wouldn't think a shutdown would stop something that's been happening every month for years.

[B]

Yeah. No money.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Where's the money?

[A]

What do you mean, where's the money?

[B]

Because they got a fund that they got to make sure we got. We got to make war planes. We got planes. We got B52.

[A]

So they're not making financial decisions.

[B]

No, they're just like, this is. We got to cut all this out to now we're in survival mode. We're in like when the blue screen comes on your computer and it's in safe mode. Like, we're only operating the screen and like the mouse. Like, we are at the point where we can't fund all that other stuff. We have to make sure we can build bombs. And you know what they consider the importance of, to keep everything safe.

[A]

So how do they decide to build bombs over giving aid to people?

[B]

Because you can't let. I guess if the nation falls within, that's better than somebody coming in from the outside. So. But then you can flip it back like, these 40 million people should be looking for jobs right now.

[A]

Damn it, I was going to turn it on you. Mike would rather. Mike would rather have bombs than feed the homeless.

[B]

No, because single moms out there. I'm not saying what I agree with it. What I'm saying is, is that we.

[A]

Should bomb them all.

[B]

If, if 340 million people, 340 million people need to survive. And 40 million people are surviving solely on the government at no, no effort of their own and we have to protect all them. People would think that people would say, well, we got to protect the nation first. And yeah, these people that are getting benefits should start looking like they've known it's coming.

[A]

Well, so let's, let's look at it like. I mean, I, I love analogies. Analogies are My favorite thing, because they help people. When I'm. Sometimes when I call myself autistic, I feel like I'm offending people. But I have something wrong with.

[B]

Much better.

[A]

I have something wrong with my brain. And so I explained to people through analogies and like, let's say, right, the. The power goes out in your house. Right. Your home. That's the core. That's where you operate out of where you got to start allocating electricity to certain things like food maybe. We're making sure your house is secured, your doors are locked. Right. And so the PlayStation and the TV are not going to be getting electricity.

[B]

No.

[A]

So we're out. We're making sure that our house as a country, we're just not feeding the people in it.

[B]

We are the ones that are helping are getting. The ones working or getting fed.

[A]

Oh, man. That's.

[B]

That's a pretty good analogy. I didn't think about that. Like, you're right. We plug that generator in. If you don't have a full house generator and you keep your air condition on, you keep your.

[A]

I just wonder like, who decides that? War. War self. What do you call that? Defense budget trumps welfare budget. Who decides that? Is that already pre decided?

[B]

I don't know that it's. To me, it only makes sense because obviously the warp.

[A]

The. The DOD it shouldn't be getting any funds either. Right.

[B]

Go look at. Go look at. You're done. You know, look at Walking Dead. Look at the show Walking Dead.

[A]

I. That show.

[B]

Yeah. It's the best show ever.

[A]

It's the analogy driven show. I can relate everything I told you the other day. Like, I relate to Negan more and more every day.

[B]

Yeah. So think about if you watch the Walking Dead and you were locked in that Those walls and the. The. The. The walkers were coming. All that you were perform. You were. Remember when they rebuilt that city later on, like episode 789 when Negan was in jail and all that and they had that nice city. You had a job. And there were people I remember not trying to work and they're beating up. They're like, you got to go work, dude. Like, we have to protect this. Walls have to be protected first. So what was the most important thing in. Yeah. The border. The border had to be secured. Number one, the border had to be that we have to eat none of the endorse.

[A]

No.

[B]

You know, they started getting in like reading books and schooling later on. But if that build that wall, if that wall wasn't built and there was no protection within the community, everything else falls. You could have all the money. PlayStation Gold. You could have gold pile to this. Remember, money was useless. There was. Nobody had any money. Yeah, it was all trading back to goods. But without the security of the border, every. Every village and every city in that show fell. You had to protect it first.

[A]

So if I'm somebody watching this saying, mike's an idiot and Tyler stupid, and.

[B]

Well, they are, but they're right.

[A]

The what do we need? So when you brought up bombs, you were just talking in general, right? Like defense.

[B]

What I'm saying is part of that is the wall in Walking Dead. In order to protect. Imagine if they could. If they could have funded guns and ammo to keep those people out and getting overrun. They would fund that. First, they would obviously have to eat, but it would be a collective group of everybody working together to eat. Not 40 whatever in that village, maybe 30 people that said, I'm not doing anything. I'm sitting over here in the corner. Y' all protect us. Y' all do whatever you got to do. We're gonna sit over here, and you're gonna feed us for free. And we're not gonna do nothing. We're not gonna do anything. I'm sorry. We're not gonna do anything.

[A]

We're not gonna do nothing.

[B]

Eventually, the people in that village are gonna go, hey, gotta go.

[A]

Like, tribal mindset.

[B]

So if you just look at that show, it's very simple. They would. You think Negan or Rick or Michonne would have put up with 40 dudes in that village walls, sitting in the corner, eating every day, going to sleep safe, and not performing any tasks within that community? You're crazy. They would have thrown him out and got rid of them. I rest my case.

[A]

Yeah. So what are you saying? We need to go throughout Chicago.

[B]

I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying if you look at a. And they were. They were liberal. That was a liberal show. They brought gay into it. They brought all that stuff into that show.

[A]

They really play into the mindset. I love the conservative and liberal mindset because it is what it is. You're either one side or you're not. You. Security matters more to you or being a.

[B]

Being humane matters in those walls, that. Those were those battles you had. The pastor that wanted to preach God.

[A]

To everybody and wanted to bring people in. Yeah, you got to feed.

[B]

He said, we can't feed them. We don't know if they're allies. Could they be spies? We know what we have within these walls right now. Is ours. Why would we let other people in that show? I mean, that is it, dude, that's.

[A]

I want to rewatch that show.

[B]

It's so good. It's so good. And then the spin offs are pretty good. So. But if you take that show, that's, that's. We're, we're at, we're like season five right now. Walking Dead.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I mean, because you, you can talk about the Walking Dead forever. Because we went to ntoa and me and you talked about the Walking dead for about 45 minutes while we were waiting on Phil from Human Performance to come back.

[B]

I remember that.

[A]

And I, I walked Phil up like four Guinnesses.

[B]

I do remember they were in the refrigerator.

[A]

And then Phil drank one. But he's in the chats. Get with Phil if you got any questions about HPT. TRT.com he's a guru when it comes to men's health. Someone warned us not to do live call ins and we're like, send it.

[B]

People warn us about doing a lot of things. Here we are. I got a Chicago update over the weekend. Our Weekly Chicago update. 4 killed, 16 wounded. Slow weekend in Chicago. That's it from Friday to Sunday night.

[A]

How many?

[B]

Four killed.

[A]

And that's it.

[B]

That's. It's low. It's lowest in like, good for Chicago. 16.

[A]

That's already on a slideshow somewhere in the fucking city council.

[B]

Yeah, like, we did really good. I think we have a call about Portland. Ready? Hold on.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

All right, here we go. They're gonna call in. Oh, they're gonna.

[A]

Why don't we just call them?

[B]

Because I'm lazy. I'm one of the 40 people power move. I'm one of the 40 people.

[A]

Power move.

[B]

I'm one of the forty people in the corner doing absolutely nothing. What's going on? You're live on the anti hero broadcast.

[C]

Hey, Mike, it's Ben.

[B]

What's going on, Ben?

[E]

Hey, dude. So I saw last week you guys were talking about Portland PD and kind of wanted to hit on some stuff.

[B]

Go ahead, because we were just talking about it again. So give. Enlighten us. Tell us how wrong we were.

[E]

You weren't specifically wrong, but. So Portland PD is the largest police agency in Oregon. Oregon has a lot of rural stuff. Not a lot of money for policing, but pretty much. My dad worked for a neighboring agency for 27 years. Has a lot of stories about it. I heard about it growing up. He's told me never apply there. They have 883 officers. They have the most divisions of any, any place. Even the state police in Oregon. But the thing is, is they're not retroactive agency, their reactive agency, they show up after the fact all the time. And during Coveted, remember, we had the, you know, defund the police movement. They had one really good team. It was called the Gun Violence Task Force. Took guns off the street, put gang members away. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Well, the way that Pete, Portland PD.

[C]

Plays with their money, as they say.

[E]

Okay, well, the city doesn't like us. We're going to take something away that's actually doing some good. So they got rid of that. And during COVID our crime rate went through the roof up there by almost 90% because they got rid of the one thing that was actually proactive.

[B]

Is it back?

[E]

That's how they do things.

[B]

Is it. Did it ever come back?

[E]

Kinda, but not really.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Kinda, but not really. That makes sense. It's not the same name and it's not nearly as effective as it was.

[C]

It's.

[E]

They're partnered with Multnomah county and Gresham.

[B]

What do you. What is your take on this? These, these reports of about, you know, not being able to help ICE and being ordered not to help. Is that all accurate?

[E]

That is accurate because that's just the way Oregon's constitution is written, dude. Since 1984, I believe law enforcement in Oregon is not allowed to interact with ICE and assist in arrest. They're not even really allowed to honor detainers. That's just how the law is written. The police can't do anything about it. It was the lawmakers that came up with that, not the.

[B]

Well, is there any way around. Do you know a way around it? Are there guys that are still helping or, or what is the. What's the take on that?

[E]

Here's the deal. If a guy helps and he gets caught, he's done.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

He's okay.

[C]

They will.

[E]

They will burn him at the stake.

[A]

Pretty much.

[B]

Unbelievable. Sounds crazy, but. All right, man. I appreciate you calling in, man, clearing that up for us. Thank you so much for supporting us and thank you, man. Take care. So it's in their constitution.

[A]

No kidding.

[B]

Yeah. We should cut federal funding that would.

[A]

Oh, can we do that? Yeah, I mean, we're doing it.

[B]

This month, government shut down Oregon permanently.

[A]

Yeah. There's some talk in the chats about other types of benefits that obviously I said this from the get go. There wouldn't be any riots, but it would be an issue if VA disability didn't come in for a lot of people. A lot of people Rely on that as a sorts of income. They went, fought a war and now they're being compensated by the US government for the rest of their life due to ailments suffered in that war. But they earned it. Social Security is another one. I think Social Security has a way more broad reasoning on why you can have Social Security for, you know, one of your, like a spouse dying or like, you know. Yeah, there's many, many children, ailments with your children, disabilities. There's obviously though, if you collect, what's it, Is it Social Security if you say you're disabled or is that disability?

[B]

There's SSDI and Social Security and don't ask me to tell you, I know Social Security. Disability is.

[A]

Disability means you cannot work. So if 1200 working.

[B]

A month and.

[A]

You can't make any more money, so you can't go make another 800.

[B]

It goes based on your age, how many years you work. There's a formula they put together for how you get paid that.

[A]

I mean people get all this stuff before you can even get your retirement, you retire. You gotta wait like until you what, 52.

[B]

Yeah. That SSDI though, disability takes three years. If you talk to any attorney, it takes like three years to go through from time you file to where you, you will be in court. Social Security will take you to court. You'll have to go in front of a judge at some point and convince the judge that you need Social Security benefits. But in order to get SNAP benefits, you don't have to do that. You can get fed right out of the rip.

[A]

Again, I don't disagree with the idea for snap, I really don't. But it's not meant to be something you're born into and you expect for the rest of your life.

[B]

Well, it's like, like you said, vets are getting paid for going, you know, injuries on during their service, breaking legs, humping 50 pound rugs, doing something for the government. You have 40 million people who essentially maybe some are vets. So I'm not saying all of them, but you have 40 million people who did nothing but not be able to get a job and not be able to eat. And we now they're planning on being supported the rest their lives. Start doing the math on 40 million people reproducing with the same mindset over and over generations. Yeah, ones that become 100 million, when does that become half the population?

[A]

I've said that since day one. It's, it's generational poverty that the Democrats have strategically put in place since Post World War II, they build the high risers. They build the. What has become Section 8 housing. You know, back in, what, the 80s or 90s, they were. They were. I mean, they made movie about it. They were taken over. There were wars. They were like fortified places with people that are victims living in them, and they would run gang operations out of them, dope operations out of them. So when you create that generational poverty, that's when you get these huge riots, because people are born pissed off and they're born in cages, and they are. Right, yeah, yeah. More of a metaphor.

[B]

And I think about it like this. Like, I, I. I'm retired. Like, I collect. Retarded, retarded and retired, but having a mindset of wanting to make money and do. I'm here. Yeah, I hear. I like the entertainment. Don't get me wrong. I'm not doing this just to get paid. I enjoy getting roasted by people on YouTube, getting ripped on social media and being called me. I love it. But obviously, the good that comes of this Sal Jack, making those connections, donation, I think that overall. But I. So if you, if you equate this to me being governmentally funded because I retired, I could be sitting home getting a set amount of dollars, not have to do anything or earned it, though I did, let's say, just take that out of it, though, or I can go, I know I'm gonna make this much money every single month. How do I double that? How do I make more? And eventually, I could be making enough money. I'm not gonna give it back, but I could take that and go, I'm gonna make more than what my retirement is. I don't even need it. That goes in the bank or that goes in an investment fund. That's kind of what I look at. Like, snap. If you were motivating these people to go, all right, I know I'm gonna be able to eat this month. I know I'm gonna have enough money to get my food, feed my kids. How do I take that and go, now I'm gonna make so much money or more that I'm gonna feed my kids and I'm able to get a nicer apartment and I'll be able to pay a car payment. And now eventually, I want to work so hard that I don't need that money anymore. Of course, it's just not. There's no incentive to do it. But that should be the mindset of government assistance, is that how do I get myself off of it?

[A]

That, that. But that, that. That goes into being born like you're raised a certain.

[B]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Because, like, my parents taught me, if you owe somebody something, you don't operate normally until it's paid back. Right? And so if I owed you.

[B]

If.

[A]

If I owed you fucking a thousand dollars, I wouldn't be able to, like, sit, right?

[B]

Like, you sit here telling me you're going to vacation. Yeah, that's cool, man. But remember, you owe me that grand.

[A]

Or, you know, on the flip side, if you're sitting here hitting me with 20s every day. Thanks, man. I'm hungry. But, man, I need to eat, you know, and. And eventually, like, if I'm of that mindset where I don't appreciate people helping me and. And have, you know, that integrity to. Or not integrity, the dignity, maybe to. To want to be able to get off that one day when you go, hey, Tyler, there's problems, you know, I'm.

[B]

Not gonna be mad at me.

[A]

I'm gonna be like, where's my 20 bucks?

[B]

Yes. Like, dude, I can't eat it today. Yeah, I can't eat today.

[A]

Yeah, Mike, that's become a source of income.

[B]

Oh, my bad, dude. Let me. You know, I don't really know if I can eat, but now I feel bad, so. Here, man, I'll go give you. Yeah, that's. That's the. You're right. It's a. It's a generate. Multi generational issue where there's no motivation to get better. And then there's people. Like you said, I could be sitting home, just mind my business, but I look at it and go, okay, I'm set here. How do I do more? And I guess that's, you know, kind of what the cop thing and doing the, you know, the job and. Or any job. Doesn't have to be a cop. Any job where you go, how do I go more? You go to work every day and go, you know what? I work for this company, and they're making billions. But if I work hard, yeah, the company's gonna get better, but my life's gonna get better. So I'm gonna be motivated to do xyz. And that's where I'm at right now. I am motivated to do more because, like, how you can never have enough money, you can never have enough vacations. And I see that now as a younger cop moron chasing bad guys. All I want to do is that now I go, well, I'm old. I can't do that anymore. I can make this much, but I want to make that much more. And how do I do it the right way? Not being a piece of shit. Not just whatever, yeah, working. So it's like, I mean, here's the thing too.

[A]

It's so easy. My kid has been getting free school lunches his entire life. Now granted, it was when he started kindergarten and personal. I want to get with this.

[B]

But you already started.

[A]

Yeah. All right. So essentially he was. At one point when he started school in this county, he was determined to be low income kid. He got for. I called them and said, no, no, no, no, no, no, we make this much money now. I was trying to get him off. And they were like, they were literally going, it's free lunches, dude, relax, it's cool, man. It's government money. And I'm like, okay. Like my pride, I was like, I don't want him to be, you know, me, Me and Heather are. When we chose our insurance, they came, kept pressuring. We stayed with the insurance I had when I was a cop because it's just such good insurance. Just pay out of pocket a little bit and. But they kept pushing Obamacare on us and you know, they were like, hey, the main reason we didn't do it is like, hey, if you make too much money at the end of the year, they're going to come back and take it. They're going to take the, the discounts that they gave you for Obamacare. But on top of that, I just wouldn't listen to the guy. And he's a cool dude. He was, you know, he sells health care. We talk to him all the time about best insurance decisions and he's like, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, dude, we're not doing Obamacare. Like, stop saying it. I don't care if I've got to pay triple. Yeah, you know, I'm not that person.

[B]

And then you have the opposite, which is I'm not going to work because I'm getting this money and there's no incentive for me to. They're never going to check it. They're never. And it takes a government shutdown now for it to even become a problem. And guess what? A week after this government's backup operating, nobody's gonna care about those 40 million people again.

[A]

Now.

[B]

They're never gonna talk about it. They're never gonna get back to it. They're never gonna circle back to, hey, remember all that talk about 40 million people not getting snap, oh, the government's funded again. Let it keep going.

[A]

No, and that's another thing too, is if you're used to it, right? Like if you, if you're like, I've been paying this bill my whole life and then you question it, but you're used to it, right? So if you're like, hey, I've been paying taxes, I've been paying 28% taxes federally since I've been getting a paycheck since I was 14 years old. You're just not going to notice it. It's become part of life. And then therefore like, hey man, can. If you did the calculations and you're like, you could get all that money back. You know, I'm going to be probably be over a million dollars. And you're like, whoa.

[B]

How often do people sit down and shop their insurance? Every year, like their car.

[A]

They should.

[B]

They don't though. But they don't because it's like it rolls in. Oh, it only went up a dollar.

[A]

That's.

[B]

It went up a dollar for 500 or you know, 50 million people got raised a dollar. And everybody goes, nobody, like whatever. That bill rolls. Yeah, but nobody bothers. You're just.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

You become indoctrinated paying a bill every month. Your cable, your cable could go up three or four bucks here and there. You're gonna notice your water bill goes up two or three, but nobody pays it.

[A]

Every time you get a new cell phone, the guy literally goes, it's only going to go up $7.

[B]

Yeah, you can just pay in it.

[A]

And you're like 25 more things.

[B]

Like 2 grand. Yeah, it's crazy.

[A]

Well, it's not worth. It's worth about $40 if that.

[B]

If that's made in China for. By enslaved children. But we get sucked in that. You have to have a new one. It's got a camera that can now take, you know, a picture of a fleas dick from nine miles away. You gotta have that. You never know what you're gonna need to take a picture nine miles away. So like it's got. You gotta have it. So you just get conditioned that you gotta have it. And I've actually gotten better about that. I went like three years between this phone and the last one. I made like three generations of the phone. This is the 16. I was just like, I'm not doing it anymore. I'm not getting sucked into this world anymore.

[A]

I don't care at all. Until first off, they will start limiting your storage. They're going to. All of a sudden your phone's like, no storage and you're deleting everything. You're going through everything and it's like, no storage. They're forcing you to go buy another one unless you subscribe to the cloud.

[B]

Yeah, you can subscribe to the Cloud 999. We'll make that happen. We'll fix it for you all.

[A]

All of a sudden, things in your phone stop working. You know, it's just you. They force you to go get a new one. Because now my whole life is when my phone goes down, dude. I can't do anything for work. Nothing. There's a little bit on the.

[B]

I can't get, like, money I don't need. How much money you got in the bank? You mean I gotta drive to the bank and ask them? Like, that's not. That's not right. I can't do that. Like, yeah, how would you operate without it? So it's.

[A]

So we'll wrap up the snap thing. In my opinion, this is. If they don't have this unfucked by November 1st and four days. Yeah, everybody is going to. Stores are gonna close because they know exactly what's gonna happen when the people that usually use EBT try to go use it, and they go, listen, it's not me. There's no money on the card. Hold on. You think they're gonna go, okay, hold on. Let me go. Let me go. Call and wait online for 45 minutes.

[B]

Halloween's on a Friday, man. It's gonna be lit Kurok costumes, man. Them lashes are gonna be long. Nails gonna be done, man. Come Saturday, it's gonna be ain't no.

[A]

Milk in the fridge.

[B]

You know, Saturday's the first, and usually your benefits would come on the 31st for the first. So they're gonna be. No, that's how it works. Like, even military, you. You get paid on the 1st. Oh, yeah, that's so disability. All that. All that is probably dispersed on the first, which means everybody's expecting it Friday. So really, we have Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Come Friday morning, everybody's ready for that check to hit. So it might not. And then Halloween could be very interesting.

[A]

Halloween. You know, all the cops handed out.

[B]

Lima beans and stuff.

[A]

Gallon milk.

[B]

Yeah, the old beats in the back of the cabinet, man. You got a can of beets in your trick or treat stuff, man.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, no one. I don't know, dude. I mean, we're not safe from it. I mean, we're not. Where if they decided if this went another month and then they were like, well, I'm talking about financially, dude. I mean, me, I don't want to speak for you, but I know Financially, if they're like, hey, you're not getting your VA disability, like there's a problem. That's. That's, that's a problem. So the government shut down. I, I think they'll fix it this week. I really do.

[B]

Trump's in Asia.

[A]

He doesn't need to be there.

[B]

I know. I'm just saying he's in Asia.

[A]

What's he doing in Asia?

[B]

Flying around. Flying around, people hanging around. That's what he's doing. That'll be spun. The government's out of control and he's in Asia on vacation. He's not. He's working. But interesting, right, Lewis? Is that we say interesting. Very interesting.

[A]

All right, so that's, that's it for the, the snap stuff. I mean, it's just, it really is. You got to put your imagination to work. I mean, I'm not trying to be an asshole, but you got to work.

[B]

The keyword in that sense, it is work.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta work. You gotta work.

[B]

Yeah, you gotta work.

[A]

You know, look at it like this. The government ain't. There is gonna be times when the government don't provide for you. You've got to provide.

[B]

I mean, I just didn't. Here's another thing. Not that I'm relied on it, but I did. I, I got, I did my bit. Last year was the first year I owned a business. 2024 Cobbille was formed. I made money. So I didn't do my taxes because I had no idea what to do. Business. I had half the sheriff's office salary or I had the sheriff's office salary from the 1st till 1st of the year till September. Then I had the business money. I know what to do. I'm like, so I hired an accountant and got an extension. So my taxes were just submitted like October 14th for last year. She's like, yeah, you're getting back X amount of dollars. But the government shut down. So who knows?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know how long that's going to take. They got think about all that's going on. They're not processing any late tax returns or not processing anything.

[A]

And it's all just holy. So even the tax process is stopped.

[B]

Everything stopped.

[A]

Our tax people still working, hoping that it goes.

[B]

I don't know. I think the IRS gets sent home.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

You're still paying taxes. But like I said, I did an extension.

[A]

Yeah, we should stop having to pay taxes. That's a great point. What are we paying taxes for?

[B]

40 million people. No bombs. We're paying for bombs, man. Trump to fly around Asia. That's we're paying for right now.

[A]

Paying for bombs to build to blow up the 40 million people.

[B]

All right, I got a couple updated stories. Last year there's a Lee county deputy who was arrested for planning drugs on people County Florida. Lee County, Florida. Deputy was this pub.

[A]

Was this big news when it came out.

[B]

Really? It wasn't huge news because that place is so corrupt. But I would like you to know, Carmine Marcino, I still haven't clipped that, by the way. I'm equipped that please. But he had a deputy that was arrested for planting narcotics on people and he got sentenced to a whopping 180 days in jail.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

For planting.

[B]

Six months? Yeah, six. Multiple. Multiple times. So your people, the people that argue the cops are treated differently. I think that's a good argument if you look that up. Lee county deputy recently sentenced to 180 days in county jail for multiple time. Multiple.

[A]

He'll do his time if you get even.

[B]

If he gets game time, everybody else, you do about four months. He's have a rough time in the county jail.

[A]

What do you think is he. What do you think is. Is worse for a cop? Prison or county jail?

[B]

Prison.

[A]

You think so? Yeah, prison is.

[B]

County jail is actually.

[A]

People are trying to get out more than.

[B]

Well, you're, you're talking less than a year in jail is a county jail sentence. Maybe there's some bad.

[A]

So he's doing 100, but yeah, so he's only doing half a year.

[B]

So he's in the county. Yeah, he's not going to prison.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Prison's terrible. They got shanks, they got phones. They got.

[A]

They don't have that stuff in county jail.

[B]

Not as bad. It's more controlled. Your county jail employees, like, think about it. Their deputies are being paid. Our deputies, our corrections deputies make exactly what road patrol's making. You go to DOC. There's a sign when I drive south on and US 1 and 4 Pierce that they're making 20 an hour. DOC Corrections people are starting at like 20 bucks. You want a great career in corrections, go to doc where you got pedophiles getting shanked every day. You got murderers, drug traffickers that are doing 20, 30, 40, 50 life sentences. And you're over there making what, a little bit more than the Wawa clerk? Like captains at DOC are making like 60 grand, man. Oh, yeah. So you're definitely better off in the county jail. There's much more security in the county jail. It's much more regulated. And then you go to deal.

[A]

Well, then people in the county jail typically are. Unless they're there for a hearing, for a trial. They're just visiting.

[B]

No, just visiting.

[A]

People are trying to get out.

[B]

Yeah. When they come back from prison, they're getting really.

[A]

No, they're not going to risk that.

[B]

There's some fights and stuff, but you go to prison. I mean, I follow the guy. Remember the guy in Alaska, he went around and beat everybody with hammers.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, it was Alaska. He went around beating pedophiles with hammers, and he ended up getting sentenced. He's got a whole page now. I actually reached out to.

[A]

Wait, he killed them? Did we talk about this?

[B]

He's called the Alaskan Avenger.

[A]

Did he kill them?

[B]

I believe he did.

[A]

That's.

[B]

He went around. There's a picture of him, like, standing there, but he now has a big Instagram page. The Alaskan Avenger. And he talks prison. No, he's out. He got out. He did his time.

[A]

How much time did he do?

[B]

I don't want to. I don't remember. I should.

[A]

When was this?

[B]

He just got out, like, a year ago.

[A]

So this was like, 10, 15 years ago. Oh, okay.

[B]

He was on the sex registry. Just going around and. And beating the shit out of you, which I get. He goes to prison, but what he does is. Now he does. Most of his platform is talking about guys getting murdered in prison that are pedophiles. So it's rough. So for a cop, I would imagine a pedophile has got to be the worst. You go to prison as a pedophile, you're toast, dude.

[A]

Did you see. So you don't listen to music that I do, but I remember when I was a kid, I went to oz Fest, like, 2002, and I saw a band called Lost Profits. He got popped, right, dude. So I guess, like, 20 years ago, maybe not 20 years ago, maybe 10, 15 years ago, he was arrested for the most heinous of crimes. Like, I'm talking video footage of him sexually assaulting babies. Like, the, like, sign, done deal. Like, probably the most horrific thing a man can do. He went to prison and he was just recently killed, right? He got killed, yeah. And people are saying they're surprised.

[B]

Jason Vukovich, Alaskan Avenger. He got sent to 23 years, but he got out very early. And now his whole platform, he paroled in five years. His whole platform now is pointing out sex offenders and highlighting them so that people know who they are. And talks. He talks A lot. He talked about that guy. He talks a lot about people killed in prison. And so I would think pedophile number one cop would be your number two. Worst place to be would be prison. Yeah.

[A]

Especially a dirty cop.

[B]

Who else?

[A]

Do you. Okay, okay. Do you think that.

[B]

I think the dirty cops got it better.

[A]

Really? I would. I don't know.

[B]

If you went in there, like. Yeah, I was helping them. Like Michael, doubt doesn't snitch on the people.

[A]

Do you really think it's. But don't you think prison's more about honor and, you know, they can respect the fact that you. You stood behind the badge and you weren't a dirty cop.

[B]

No, because they're all there because of cops. Then you got Michael. God, who walks in and goes, yeah, forget about it. I was helping the boys. You know, we're running dope and all that. I think he's got an easier time than a regular cop who was put.

[A]

You.

[B]

You can't beat that. No cops.

[A]

Worse.

[B]

Pedophile cop.

[A]

Do you think that cops should be treated differently because of their safety? Because then, you know. No.

[B]

Because you were a cop, you were given X amount. No, no. Depending on what they go for. Like if God forbid, somebody, you know, ended up in prison that didn't belong there before his police shooting, that was targeted by an attorney general or something like that, they should be treated differently. But that's like Brianna Taylor, Brett Hackinson, and that was sentenced in that Brianna Taylor case, got four years in the feds. I still agree he's innocent, so I would say, yes, he deserves to be. But are they going to treat him differently when he gets brought in by DOJ on civil rights violations? Not sure. But if you. This guy does not deserve to be treated differently. You planted drugs on people. You caused them their lives to be destroyed.

[A]

Mental health, well, you violated people's constitutional rights.

[B]

So he doesn't deserve it.

[A]

And here's the thing, man, is like, if you're a cop and you get arrested for DUI or domestic violence, that stuff happens all the time. We're being real. You're for those first time offenses. Nobody's doing time in jail. No, they're. Most offenses, you bond out for 500 bucks. If that. And you're out. You. You just process in a jail. And it's a fancy way for them to take up eight hours of your day and then give you a court date.

[B]

Even drug charges.

[A]

So, yeah, you're not, you're not. So you're not gonna be like, oh, I Got a dui, and now I'm in fuck incarcerated with criminals that want to kill me. That's not how it works. You would have to do something like this cop, where you made a choice to. To go violate people's constitutional rights and plant evidence you deserve. There was another cop in Florida that did that too.

[B]

Yeah, there was. Yeah, there's one locally, where I live, Fort Pierce, somewhere down there. It's happened quite.

[A]

He's on video.

[B]

Yeah, there's one that was getting caught having, like, prostitutes. Like, there's. It just. It just get the guy caught in the back seat with the girl. Like, we can talk about.

[A]

But they didn't do anything about that.

[B]

You know, this, though, is the worst to me. You planting drugs. It's easy enough to make drug arrest without the planet, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I. I'm gonna put together a real. I don't like to talk much about. But I'm up to like 7 messages now. Ever since I've gotten on this platform from former people I've arrested who have messaged me about their life being so.

[A]

Much better and that they left cop work.

[B]

No, since no cops that people arrested.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

People saying, hey, you know, you arrested me 15 years ago. I want you to know, like, I went on to do xyz. I appreciate you treat me like a human being. Even though I was trafficking a narcotic like I've gotten.

[A]

Because it was. I mean, you didn't take it personally to. To an extent, you know, but I don't.

[B]

When I say personal, I didn't do anything I wouldn't normally do, but some people that continuously sold fentanyl or heroin and people were dying. I took it personal, but most of them just doing the job. And I've gotten numerous, numerous messages from people in my past. So that's one story. The other story I wanted to touch back update on was a New York state trooper that shot. Well, he called in that he got shot. Did the black guy in a charger. He went that way, and it turned out that he shot himself. The story got a little bit better. There's two parts of the story that got a little bit better.

[A]

One is this guy facing charges?

[B]

Oh, yeah, he's arrested one was.

[A]

He.

[B]

When they did the cert, when they found out he made it up, they did a search warrant on his house. He had ghost guns.

[A]

How did they find out he made it up? Do you know anything about it?

[B]

It was. It was the entry. No, it was just the. The. The basics. Yeah. Basic things that you don't think so.

[A]

This ain't had enough.

[B]

No, the. The entrance and exit, the angle like the whole thing. Yeah, yeah it was all there. It was his gun.

[A]

What about the bullet?

[B]

Yeah, the bullet comes from that barrel. It's all there. It's very simple. For those that don't know if you.

[A]

Like forensic evidence for going really easy to do now.

[B]

Yeah but here's me tell you some brainchilds sidetracked from this story when we had. I had an unfortunate case where a 20 year old kid executed a 16 year old kid over drugs in the woods. Hit a Revolver. How old 16 year old kid was executed by a 20 year old kid over drugs, used a revolver. He being dumb. And for everybody that doesn't know when, when the cops are looking for the bullet each barrel is unique and the, the markings made on the bullet as it spins out of the barrel even when they break apart and hit your skull or hit your body, they can recreate the marks on the side of the bullet. This guy had a revolver so his smart he went and dumped all the bullets out of the revolver, put new ones in, but kept the gun because now the bullets are gone but the barrel's the same.

[A]

That's why the gun's so important. Yes.

[B]

So in, in this case the bullet in his leg would match his barrel. Very little foresight into that whole plan but they did a search warrant on his house and they found a million dollar. A Millie. A Millie, A Millie, A Millie. They found a million dollars in a New York state trooper's house, a 3D printer and ghost guns.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

Yes, same guy. So now that like that's being investigated, where do you come up with a millie?

[A]

Yeah, and you're a cop dude.

[B]

And then the meme side of it for me was the alleged shooting took place because he had a nurse girlfriend that broke up with him and he knew she was working that night and he knew he would be taken to the hospital and simply was looking for sympathy from her. So that was why he did that.

[A]

The things people would do for love.

[B]

Gorilla grip.

[A]

That was more than just. That was just more than trying to impress a nurse. That was like.

[B]

Yeah, he didn't think, he didn't think all that. All that through all the crime he was doing with ghost guns, all the fact he had money in his house, all that was done to make a girl jealous or make her want him more by being a victim of a shooting. And he shot himself in the leg and it all kind of backfired. I think he's gonna go to prison. And then what's.

[A]

What's. What are the kind of charges that.

[B]

You could be like, false report of a crime.

[A]

I mean, we're looking at a lot of misdemeanors though.

[B]

Yeah, well, it's a felony, It's a false report of a felony, and it's a false report of attempted murder. So everything goes down one level. So you have like attempted murder on a law enforcement officer would probably be like a way up high felt Florida. That's like a first degree felony, I would assume.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm not gonna go look first or second, which is 30 to 15 years in prison. Maybe you're the conspiracy or the lie is one less. It's still felonies. So you have all that. Yeah, for sure. Then you get to the house and again, he doesn't think it through any. But that just shows the character of somebody's brain, that they're making ghost guns at the house and they have a bunch of money, then they're obviously selling them. Is. Is also willing to shoot himself in the leg. I can't fathom that. Like shooting myself in the leg. And I have a sig and I still can't think about it.

[A]

You don't have to worry about doing it.

[B]

So I don't want, I don't even, like, you know, any injuries. I don't want to hurt. So shooting myself in the leg is not. But that, that shows you, like I said, the mental capacity of some people wearing the uniform, the psych and all that. It misses. It definitely misses.

[A]

Well, I mean, you're never gonna. What do they call it when you hire cops? You're not. You're never gonna bet for a thousand.

[B]

You know, now you're gonna bet 500.

[A]

I mean, just, I mean, dude, the academy that I went to, I mean, I think probably 80% of them aren't cops. And like, me and one other person left on our own accord, like, left the profession. Everybody else was fired or like quit or like didn't make it out of fto, which is. There's nothing wrong with that. If you become a cop and you realize and field training that it's not for you. I'm not on that because that's a great time to leave. You're not wasting your time. You're not wasting anybody else's time. You're making a decision. It's. It's chopped up as quitting, like you're a quitter. But would you rather have someone that's willing to make that decision? That Time. This isn't for me. Then 100 or Cohen. And then I've had that.

[B]

I'd had. I've had to have that. Had to have that conversation where I.

[A]

Hand the guy the McDonald's app.

[B]

Yeah, man, you know your way right away, like, burking app. Like, yes. And I, you know, I've seen guys go out like that and I'm like, everybody talks. I'm like, I think that's fine, dude. Like, I remember one guy who got called to like a shooting in the hood, and he got there and he left, went right to the station, turned all stuff, and he's like, nah, dog, I'm not. I'm not down with this. And I'm like, hey, man, it's cool. And then you have the people that I think try to hold on for the wrong reason. I remember they recycled a kid and they put him with me for like a special fto. And I worked the hood and I'm like, hey, dude, you gotta get busy.

[A]

You were the ax man.

[B]

Yeah, I'm like, no, I was just like, you got to get busy, Michael.

[A]

Get rid of him.

[B]

You got to get busy tonight.

[A]

You are the sergeant at arms. You're the enforcer of everything we ever do. And I'm like, want me to make the call?

[B]

I'm like, let's go, let's go, let's go. I'm pepping this kid up. Let's go, let's go, let's go. He arrests like a six year old black lady for dissing tox at the gas station. I'm like, this. That was. It wasn't the one, man. And it wasn't even his call. He comes marching in the jail, he puts all his stuff, and I pull in the sally port. And I'm like, man, like, you've been at work nine hours, you've done nothing. And I'm like, you're gonna try to tell me that this. This is the one. And I wrote the recommendation for him to be terminated. I'm like, this ain't. And he ended up willfully terminating himself like a day or two later. I'm just like, bro, sounds like this is all right. Willfully resigning. This ain't it, bro. I'm like, mike was an. I mean, it is what it is, man.

[A]

I would try and think out of the box I was. I would get guys that. I mean, it's. It's everywhere. It's 20, 25. They're passing people through like crazy. People that can't write, people that can't type people that can't speak proper English. And I'm not even saying like English is your second language. I'm saying that English is their only language and they can't even speak it.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

They, you know, obviously we talk. The warrior spirit is done and gone. It's now a social media, best case scenario, guardian spirit, if you will. And you know, that's just, it's, I mean, I, I would, I would tell people like, listen, dude, this is the best way for you to get through this because you're gonna get through it. Like you have to be. And what they do is do they don't. A lot of times if somebody's that bad, what do they do? They keep them around as a civilian and then they let them go through the academy again. And they'll pay for it.

[B]

Well, yes, and in my day we got rid of people right away. Back in the stone age, we just, we just threw him off the side of a cliff back in the stone age when I started. But now agencies won't even cut loose. People who have multiple documented complete failures, they just keep trying to recycle them and they're so short and they're so hard up for bodies that they're just like, ah, give him another chance. Like he doesn't, yeah, he can't spell and he doesn't know anything about use of force and he really can't take a report. But man, he deserved one more chance. And it's, that's what we're dealing with now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then those guys are making it through eventually and then they're becoming FTOs and it's like in my day it was like very simple, like, hey bro, this dude's a fucking coward. Like he's gone. Like if you show any sign of cowardice, any unwillingness to go to a call, like our buddy Steve says, like a self proclaimed hero that has no duty to act. I'm sorry, I get by statute you don't have a duty to act or you're, you're soft. But if you show any cowardice whatsoever by slow rolling to a scene or backing out of an engagement where you're fighting somebody, you show any of that.

[A]

You should be gone, that they're not going to. Cowardice isn't a thing anymore. I think somebody would probably have to get significantly wounded or killed for, for that.

[B]

I have had cops argue with me multiple times about fitness and cowardice. Where you, well you, you have even said you want that day off, so fuck it, we'll keep these people you have said it. Yeah, you have said it.

[A]

I don't care. I don't care. I, like, I, I know that if I'm gonna go clear a house or do a hot call, I know I got a bag of shit next to me. I'm just, I'm, I just know that, like, I.

[B]

But you, but you would rather keep the agency numbers high so I can have days off.

[A]

Yeah, fuck it there. I mean, there. You ain't gonna get all of a sudden one day that a fucking stud. Thousand superhumans aren't going to come into each police department.

[B]

But you'll have 40 million on SNAP benefits and you support it. So you support the SNAP benefits of police. That's what you do.

[A]

It ain't my problem no more, dude.

[B]

No, now it's not. But I'm saying that there are guys actively argued with me.

[A]

I, When I started becoming, when I became an fto, I was like that.

[B]

Oh, this is, I don't want them and my brothers, my brothers with them watching their six, man.

[A]

It's so, it's just like you say, no one speaks up. Dom Izzo says it the best. Everyone is. The culture is our own problem. And everything culture that we want to say is going to. It's our own problem because everyone's a coward. So, no, at some point in my FTO period, I just didn't give a anymore. And I gave them all three ratings so they could just pass and I could put in the generic copy and.

[B]

Paste like, man, this dude to be my zone partner. Next week I get a day off. Thank God. Like, I, I, I, I see that side of it, but I don't like accepting mediocrity is a problem. Now we're accepting complete.

[A]

When Brass accepts it and you're the.

[B]

Only one, you're part of the problem.

[A]

And you look like you're part of the problem. Just like when you write, when you write seven pages about how somebody should not be doing the job. And Brass goes, man it. And you, they're like, now you gotta write another seven pages explaining what you're gonna do to fix it. And it's like, this kid just has got to sit there. And, and it's like, you know what? It's just fucking easier. This is what they want. This is what they want.

[B]

Mediocrity is not acceptable in this dojo. It shouldn't be.

[A]

It's not acceptable in here.

[B]

It's not acceptable here, but it shouldn't be acceptable in the police world. And then I found an auditor last night that's the funniest auditor ever. I'm gonna give him a shout out. I want him to come on the show. I thought, no, Raz is great and he's a super good and we're working on him, but I found an auditor.

[A]

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[A]

I told Jason, I was like, man, that outro is super long. Yeah, he takes pride.

[B]

He's like me as long as your intro.

[A]

He takes pride in what he does. He obviously had that made by somebody. But vengeance, dude, that company is fucking is so amazing. They started as a company for dogs, and then people started going, yeah, my dog's super healthy now. Like, we didn't have to go through all that. Like, can you make that for me?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they went through and they reformulated everything for humans. But it started off as a dog. He's a huge dog lover. And he's just like our industries, the dog industries is just as streamlined and it's just as shitty. He's like, obviously feeding your dog pedigree from target is what's probably killing them the fastest. But. What, What?

[B]

Hello?

[A]

Hello. What happened?

[B]

We missed you.

[A]

Who is it?

[B]

You're live. He said, who was it? I think it was Clint.

[A]

I'm gonna start saving you anyway.

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

Yeah, Vengeance is a great company. They're coming out with a bunch of new product. Their biggest thing is if you got tattoos, you got a bunch of floating around in your body. Vengeance has got these supplements to take care of it.

[B]

So obviously Sean Reyes is. I will, I will. But First Amendment protection agency on Instagram. First all one word. First Amendment protection Agency. This dude is Sean Reyes, but was stand up comedy. And he's not just cops. He stands outside dispensaries and he gets attacked. He has to pepper spray people. He got. He has people that chasing him.

[A]

Let's see.

[B]

He just videos. He literally stands on the sidewalk and videos. And people are going to like, marijuana dispense.

[C]

Like, you can't record.

[B]

I'm in a company vehicle. He's like, well, maybe something against. No, I don't. I think he just knows that's the best place to be. He follows zero people. He has 177,000 followers. It is comedy reel after reel after reel of auditing cops sometimes. And he tells him at the end, he says, you're dismissed.

[A]

Clint, call again.

[B]

He's coming, he's coming.

[A]

Okay. Hello. Keeps. Hello?

[B]

Talk to me. Clint, you're live.

[A]

What's up, Clint?

[C]

All right, man, this is gonna be short and sweet.

[A]

All right, starting the timer.

[B]

Hold on one second. Hold on one second, one second, one second.

[A]

We're gonna start.

[B]

I got the call. Go ahead. Go, go, go, go.

[C]

All right, so I was a brand new cherry and it was pretty much my. My first big boy, you know, live fire field problem. And we were working with the, the British two Para. They had came to Bragg and, and they had run like a battalion. And so they were with our brigade and we were doing all these live fires and all this stuff. And we had the Gurkhas, which are regarded as the best soldiers supposedly in the world. They're the. The ones that have the. The knife kind of looks like a boomerang and they, they don't pull it out of the. The sheath unless it's going to draw blood. They pull it out. They have to cut their self to put it back in. And so that. But they weren't airborne. So when we would jump with the Brit, the Gurkhas would be waiting on us and we would. We were doing trenches, so we were attacking trenches and they could be standing completely up because the biggest one was like five. Five. So they could just run through a trench, like three times the speed we could. And then we were doing some other live fires, and it was my first one, and we had some AT4s that we were trying to get rid of. And so I shot this at 4 at a dump truck. And the round went way over the dump truck over the tree line. And my squad leader turned to me, said, ooh, that one went in the housing development. And then I was new. I didn't know anybody said, get another one. So I pulled up another one I shot, hit the dump truck. So we come out of the field. We come out of the field and we meet on the parade field where the 82nd patch is, whatever they call it.

[A]

Oh, what field is that? Oh, yeah, I know you're talking about Clint.

[C]

I don't know. It's just the division review field. That's what I always called it.

[A]

Pike Field.

[B]

Pike Field. Pike Field.

[C]

Bike field. Bike field. So we're on Pike Field, and it's us and the Brits and we're in. It's a weird uniform we went with. It was like a social. So we had on bdu, but we had on our battalion T shirts. And that was back when my battalion was the Gold Falcon. So we had black shirts with gold on it. And we were getting drunk with the Brits and the Gurkhas. I mean, we were getting. We were. We were. You there?

[B]

Yeah. Where are you? Over here, man. All right.

[C]

So we're getting hammered with them. It's daytime. We're getting.

[A]

It's daytime.

[C]

And I went and found the biggest Gurkha I could find. I think at the time I was 155. I went and found the biggest Gurkha I could find. I was like, hey, man, I'll trade you my black shirt for your Gurkha shirt. So he traded it to me and I put it on and it almost fit. So then everybody started trading their shirts. So everybody's walking around with like crop tops on. And so we were talking to these Brits and these Gurkhas, and I said, hey, have you ever seen an American muscle car? And they had no idea what that was. And I had a little fox body Mustang 88. It had the F Cam Rizzi in it. And I had like 125 shot of nitrous on it. So right, right on Pike Field. There's, There's. There's pavement behind the bleachers. So I. I got my Mustang out. And I pulled around the corner and I'm on the pavement. I had four Gurkhas in the back seat of this notchback. And I was driving and my. My buddy was riding in the passenger seat. And I hit the line lock and I, you know, sprayed the nitrous. And we did a good two minute burnout in one spot while the whole battalion cheered, right? So EMP walks up and knocks on the window while I'm doing the burnout. So I just stopped. I just let out of it. And my car was so old it had rolled down windows. I had to literally roll down the window. So I rolled down the window and MPs like, what the are you doing, man? I was like, oh, I was showing these Gurkhas what, you know, American cars like. And then he's like, what the is a Gurkha? I was like, well, I got four of them in the back seat back here. And he leaned in the car and he looked in the back. I mean, I got these four midgets in the back seat of an 88 Mustang. Four of them. And he said, man, go park this piece of. So I went parked and that was it.

[B]

Clint, that was quick. That was only 4:48.

[C]

I know. Well. Well, I have one that was kind of serious.

[B]

That's right. We're gonna. We got. We got to keep them weekly. You're a weekly guest now?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where were you? Your brother, you know, your brother called in last week. Your brother in law, right?

[A]

Who did?

[B]

Your brother in law.

[C]

No, that was me.

[B]

No, you did not call in last week. Unless you changed your voice.

[C]

That was. No, that was me last week.

[B]

No, it was not you.

[C]

Yeah, I swear to God, I thought I told the story about. What was it?

[B]

The last one was your recruiting story with the snake. Yeah, that was two weeks ago. That was. You missed it last week, man. I'm telling you.

[C]

Nah, man, I don't miss Mondays.

[B]

You're thinking of maybe third, maybe Thursday. Your brother called in. Your brother in law. He told us a story about you meeting you. Meeting you for the first time on the back porch or something. That was on Thursday.

[C]

I hadn't heard that.

[B]

All right. 4:48 was the time. So we appreciate it. You know your brother in law called in, right? You didn't know that on Thursday?

[C]

No.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He did not know. I thought I watched all of it. Maybe I. Maybe I snoozed a couple minutes.

[B]

He must have. He called in and he gave us a story about what was his brother. I don't remember. He Just told us the first time he met. He just told us the first time he met you.

[C]

This is no lie. When I got my job as a SGL at Fort Stewart teaching E5, I walked in and my. The part, the new partner that I got, as soon as I walked in, he punched me in the face. And it's because 10 years before that, I had punched him in Korea because he. He yelled first tank. And I just turned around and punched him at the. At the. At the bus stop, and he fell in the snow and we all got on the bus and left. And then 10 years later, I was reintroduced to him and he punched me soon as he seen me. He remembered me for 10 years.

[B]

Yeah, you would remember, too. All right, Clint, we appreciate it, man.

[C]

We'll.

[B]

We'll see you next week.

[A]

Bye, Clint.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

448. That's a new record for 448. So I think next week when Clint calls in everybody in the chat, we're gonna. We're making a super chat just for $1.99. If you want to play Clint calls in you super chat, your guesstimated time of Clint's call, and whoever's closest will get a prize from Copville. Okay, so it has to be a super chat, though.

[A]

Like a cheap pool.

[B]

Yeah, we're gonna do like a Clint pool. So when Clint calls in, if you're interested in Participating and for 999, you.

[A]

Can ask Clint a question.

[B]

For 999, you can. We can put you on three way with Clinton, but to. To join the. The. The prize next week, it'll be $99 super chat. You put your time of Clint's call, and whoever is closest to that time will get a. Will get a prize from Copville. A good prize, too.

[A]

Well, so another thing we're. We're looking at doing too is limited edition anti hero T shirts. Obviously Antihero has got some merch out there, but you know, it. What we're building now with everybody, I just, we. We want to make you guys something that, you know, you can say, like, hey, man, I was with them in 2025. You know, so go to the Patreon, drop some ideas in the general discussion about, you know, I have my ideas too, but maybe nobody will like them.

[B]

So people are going over the rules. We will next Monday. We're gonna do this Mondays because that's Clint's calling Monday. Next Monday, we'll discuss a little bit, but we'll do 199 super chat. I'll come up with the rules. And we'll. We'll have it. I cannot like Price is Right, one that closes without going over.

[A]

I'm. I think I'm being fucked with. I don't think Clint's Clint, and I think Clint was his brother in law.

[B]

I said that. And everybody, nobody wanted to hear it. So let's go.

[A]

Me.

[B]

Let's go back to last Monday.

[A]

Are you gonna go back to Thursday? Go back to Thursday. Yeah.

[B]

So Thursday it was. It. Now there's a different. It was a 608 number.

[A]

Call him now.

[B]

And Clint is it. No call. We're gonna let it develop. Let it. Let it cook.

[A]

Let it cook.

[B]

I'm giving you my 704 number, Clint.

[A]

And how easy is it to make a call with a new number?

[B]

Okay, it didn't sound like Clint, so we'll be the judge.

[A]

You said it did sound like Clint.

[B]

At first, but then that he didn't have the twang.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

We'll see. It's the greatest trick on earth, if not. So I'm gonna store Clint's number in.

[A]

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[B]

So we have a conspiracy brewing, huh?

[A]

Yeah. Who is Clint? Why is there no photos of Clint?

[B]

Oh, you're going way too deep.

[A]

I'm asking to see what he looks like.

[B]

He knows too much about the military to be. I mean, he's definitely.

[A]

I know he. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know.

[B]

Brother didn't seem very. I still have the best clean idea, but I can't get it done.

[A]

Why?

[B]

AI, AI, repeat.

[A]

Why do you want to protect this idea so bad?

[B]

Because we should have just dropped it.

[A]

We can't. We can. Do you know how to do it?

[B]

No. Somebody does.

[A]

Somebody does.

[B]

Yeah. I reached out. We'll see. I want to take Clint's conversation. If everybody remembers the old YouTube video of the. The dude on acid tripping with the lizard in the background, everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. Yes. There's a video on YouTube that everybody. Well, maybe when I was in the drug unit way back in. Oh, nine, 2010, we watched YouTube. We didn't have the Instagram and memes, but it was. It was a. I have a no caller ID calling in and I don't know about that one.

[A]

Let me see.

[B]

So there was a video on YouTube forever of like a dude rambling on acid and he was Mr. Balloon Hands. Forget about. He was talking crazy. And it. They recreated the call into like a whole video. My idea is take Clint's call and then AI it so that the story plays out as Clint explains it. I thought the last week's story inside the recruit the house with the recruiting was amazing. Was the snake, the girl, everybody running out. So that's my idea. So if anybody's well versed in AI who we got? We got a.

[A]

So we got Nathan calling in, but when people call it no caller ID Sketchy. Yeah, it is. It's already sketching, putting people on live. But Nathan, what's up, bro?

[B]

Not much. I.

[C]

You guys are. I'm watching your guys show and you guys are doing a bang up job. I did share the live stream stream on my social on Instagram.

[B]

So what's your.

[A]

What's your. What's your handle called?

[C]

Official Nathan Sturman.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He's a big supporter. Yeah, he is.

[A]

The cops logo, right?

[B]

No, yeah, that's one of them. Because he watches every show.

[A]

You watch out. You're always in the chat culture.

[B]

He's in Copville. He's a very huge supporter. Jerry Worms and Dom Izzo.

[A]

Oh yeah, I know, exactly.

[B]

Yeah. The mike didn't want to answer your phone call.

[A]

Mike said, vote fuck this dude.

[B]

No.

[A]

And I was like, no, dude, that's probably a good person.

[B]

He's watching. Then he knows that's not Nate. We appreciate your support, man. Huge supporter. So thank you so much for calling in. All right, buddy.

[C]

You're all. You're welcome. And hey, to be honest, your guys show beats every show on even you guys are riding along with cop Talk Live. Even Dominic.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Ask him who's better.

[B]

No, no, don't, don't. Thank you. We appreciate it, man. And you're welcome to call in anytime.

[C]

You're welcome.

[B]

Take care, Nate. I thought he was going somewhere else.

[A]

So what do you think? He was going.

[B]

I don't want no problems, man. Because then I gotta say I don't want to say and it gets all interesting. So yeah, Nate is a great kid. He's been following me from the beginning. He's been sharing our stuff. Counterculture is always, always in the show. He's always in the comments and he makes videos and does his own stuff. So we appreciate it. But no color ID scares me.

[A]

Yeah, that is weird. We've been warned not to have live.

[B]

So far so good because you know what those cows.

[A]

Well, okay, so there's a lot of things that like when you do like the. Was trying to put a somewhat of a delay on in case somebody called and said like the, like something really bad. There's is a delay a little bit on YouTube already, but it's not enough for us to actually act on it. And that's what I was trying to do is in case somebody called in, but I don't know what I'm doing.

[B]

I love when my reels get no likes but a billion shares.

[A]

Yeah. Cuz no one wants to fucking shit. No one wants to be seen liking it.

[B]

The one I posed about, the fat dispatcher this morning has like 250 likes but almost a thousand shares. That's going to the group chats. Yeah, we wouldn't be able to stop.

[A]

It though if, if we had more of a delay. So a lot of programs like I was, I was watching like when Howard Stern was doing his thing, CBS made him do like a huge delay in case they had to censor something, you know, so we're not about censoring anybody. We're just about, you know, somebody calls in, sounds cool and he's like, oh.

[B]

By the way.

[A]

Can'T have that.

[B]

No. What else we got? Hold on, I got a couple other things I think.

[A]

No, you don't.

[B]

You sure? Oh, the donation. My phone's ringing. Spam. Rest on it. Somebody donated to fund the military.

[A]

Who?

[B]

His name is Tim Mellon, who is a big supporter of Donald Trump. He was actually a liberal Democrat that voted all the way Republic or Democrat, all the way up to Jimmy Carter and he got in. He's a, he's a hire to like a railroad company and he's worth about $14.1 billion. It came out. That's an anonymous person, which nothing is anonymous at this point in America in the world anymore. He donated like a hundred and ten million dollars to fund the military.

[A]

How? That would be gone in one division.

[B]

Whatever it is, he donated 110. Just shit on it. Fuck your 110 million. He donated 110 million for.

[A]

They take it?

[B]

Yeah, they took it out. The Pentagon took it under like a gift area and came out who he actually was. Because Trump knew about it and his name is Tim.

[A]

Donation not loaned. This is a donation.

[B]

Donated. Donated 110 million to fund the government.

[A]

He sent the fucking government $110 million. That's how I know this guy never worked for the government.

[B]

No, but I did some research on him and like I said, he was a liberal voting Democrat his whole life and then flipped Republican and now he support. He, he. I think his first donation, like big donations were to Donald Trump when Trump ran. So somebody out there has enough money to give the government piss $110 million in the gun. I'm not saying it's pissed because it went to the fucking.

[A]

You don't pay the government.

[B]

But yes, he had enough money laying around that, you know, 110 million went to the feds, which seems crazy. All right, that's it.

[A]

Yeah, we're wrap it up.

[B]

I didn't eat breakfast again, Lewis. I had a donut. I had a donut and a protein shake.

[A]

Thursday, obviously, as the second week, another day. Yeah, Mike always complained.

[B]

We got good guests on Thursday though. Yeah, I got it.

[A]

Are we saying it?

[B]

Yeah, I'll tell everybody. Jason Vocerbeck, who was a federal inmate and oh yeah, by President Biden, was.

[A]

Your arch nemesis when you were working.

[B]

Yeah. Got covered on the Ian Bick podcast. Jason just clipped it and I got a call says you guys might end up dead before that episode airs.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because a lot of people in town. Yeah, a lot of people in town might get called out. But he's coming in around three, so I think he's gonna be on the night show on Night Watch. We're gonna record a recorded episode about 3 o' clock in the afternoon for Cottville. And then I think he's sticking around for Night Shift. And then next week, the following week, we got Jack is in town all week. Jack Erst Meyer for who's Fighting Cancer right there.

[A]

Who was got a big green weenie.

[B]

Let go from his agency for having cancer. He's in town. And.

[A]

Let us know if you guys want to do the shirt idea, because I really do. Yeah, so we're gonna pre sell them. I'll give you guys a design. I'll collect all. You know, I don't have to pre sell them. It's just I wanted to go. I want it to be exclusive.

[B]

Don't worry.

[A]

This out there for Patreon sees it first.

[B]

So if you're not part of our Patreon, Patreon's gonna see that first.

[A]

They're the first opportunities where the ideas fly. General discussion. If you guys want to throw it in there until I create a T shirt design group, but, man, shirts for all of us to have and wear together. It'll be fun. So conventional guy might be one of them.

[B]

What sounds good. Wear our shirts together?

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

We're all the same team.

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

We're brotherhood. Can we get one that says sheepdogs and brotherhood culture?

[A]

We're not a. Yeah. Anyways, what else we got?

[B]

Oh, November. We got a show November 8th. You want to talk about it yet?

[A]

Nah, not yet.

[B]

Okay. We don't have a show November 8th. Not doing anything anyways.

[A]

Yeah, we'll. We'll be here Thursday, 11am 11 to.

[B]

1, and then back in the news and back on the night shift. Whatever.

[A]

So we'll see you guys Thursday. JV Team for life.