12/04/2025: LET'S KEEP THIS ISRAEL CONVERSATION GOING...

Summary

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The Antihero Broadcast – Ep. 12/04/2025: "LET'S KEEP THIS ISRAEL CONVERSATION GOING..."

Date: December 4, 2025
Host: The Antihero Podcast and Team
Special Segment Guest: Dominic Izzo

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

Theme & Purpose:
This episode dives deep into the current events surrounding policing, immigration issues (the “Somali crisis” in Minnesota), the complexities of policing in America’s high-crime neighborhoods, and, particularly, a lengthy discussion about Israel—its biblical and modern definitions, Zionism, the intersection of faith and foreign policy, and why support for Israel is so prevalent in US religious and political discourse. The show targets veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans.
Note: There is a mix of news, hard opinions, comedic asides, and frank, sometimes controversial, takes on government, history, and international relations.

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SEGMENT BREAKDOWN & KEY DISCUSSION POINTS

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1. Podcast Community, Merch & Housekeeping

Light banter, show gratitude, show updates, Patreon promotions.

• The hosts express deep gratitude to listeners for their support, especially as Spotify “watch hours” get shared at year’s end.
  • “The fact that people are proud to post that stuff is like, I...I don’t have words for it. We’re just extremely, extremely grateful.” — Host A (03:35)
• Studio banter about hats, show merch, and hilarious tales of missing inventory (“My wife’s wearing it,” “I think my wife’s wearing it. Sorry, Brady.”).

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2. Minnesota’s ‘Somali Crisis’ and Law Enforcement Tension

[10:50–21:22]

Key Points:

• Allegations of large-scale Somali welfare fraud in Minnesota (“a billion with a B...in welfare fraud”) and concern over possible insider knowledge by local politicians (esp. Ilhan Omar).
• Discussion about local PD chiefs openly stating they would obstruct or not aid federal ICE actions, and LEOs being put in impossible positions balancing federal law and community trust.
  • “You got the chief of the police department basically actively saying we’re not going to enforce or we’re going to deflect or get involved in helping you. Call 911 if you see [ICE].” — Host B (12:14)
• Raises the specter of a potential civil war if local agencies and federal government clash drastically in enforcement.
  • “Can we say the C word now?...This is how we end up in a civil war.” — Host C (13:21)

Notable Exchange:

• B: “That should be terrorism. That’s domestic terrorism. You’re acting as an agent against the government at that point.” (14:00)
• A: “Are they Somali cops?”
  C: “There are several. Sure.”

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3. Policing Standards, ‘Unconstitutional’ Orders, and the Constitution

[13:43–17:26]

• Deep dive into whether local departments should reflect the communities they serve demographically.
• Nuance about how the same U.S. Constitution applies very differently across wildly different American regions (“Standing in the U.S. soil in one place and the same soil a thousand miles away...it’s like you’re in two different worlds”—A).
• Tangent: Odd LEO citizenship status stories (non-citizen police recruits in LA and Chicago).

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4. Cop Talk Live: Jacksonville Shooting Breakdown (with Dominic Izzo)

[21:22–41:03]

Body cam segment: Jacksonville, FL – Unarmed 14-year-old Black male shot by police after a dangerous pursuit related to multiple felonies (auto theft, hit-and-run, drive-by shooting).

Key Discussion:

• The panel talks through the totality of circumstances that led to the shooting.
• Izzo challenges lowering police professionalism threshold by using “what if” lethal force justifications.
  • “We are lowering the threshold of police professionalism and increasing the ‘well, they’re just human’...adrenaline dump...we’re making excuses for cops.” — Dominic Izzo (29:47)
• Debate about whether law enforcement in high-crime, high-stress contexts should have a “different” standard, veering into dangerous territory about “policing Black communities differently” and crime stats as justification.
• Heated, controversial discussion about race, statistics, and media narratives.
  • “Statistics don’t lie. Statistics don’t lie. And in this case...it is consistently young black males in high crime areas that are shooting cops, shooting their own people.” — Host B (33:55)
  • “You should not be suppressed from talking about something...Because something hurts your feelings doesn’t mean it’s not allowed to be talked about.” — Host B (106:53)

Notable Quotes:

• Dominic Izzo (on police lethal force):
  “You have to stop and be able to say, I saw an object that looked like a gun. Just somebody running and reaching in their pants when you can’t see...we have lowered that threshold because we have shitty cops to say, ‘well, he could have produced a gun.’ And it’s going to get worse.” (30:46)
• B: “You should be able to talk about everything and be informed and to suppress that ability...almost brings more curiosity. Why can’t we? That’s where—even if everything we’ve been told is accurate—the fact you’re telling me I can’t talk about it leads me to believe maybe it’s not.” (107:37)

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5. Charity Segment – [49:00]

• Promotion of “Weston Strong”: a dying child’s Christmas wish for cards from across 50 states. Address detailed and pinned for audience to send cards.

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6. Technical Difficulties & Comic Relief

[45:32–55:01]

• Humorous, candid troubleshooting of recurring video/compression issues (“We went two solid weeks without any issues and now we’re back to this again!” — Host A [53:46])
• Self-awareness: “I wouldn’t watch a podcast like this.” — A
• Solutions implemented, all team members joining in comic troubleshooting.

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7. International Affairs – Vietnam, Taiwan, and US Alignment

[61:04–65:21]

• Explainer on a Vietnamese frigate passing the Straits of Taiwan; Vietnam increasingly aligning with the US due to historic animosity with China.
• Quick review of Taiwan’s history (Nationalists/Chiang Kai-shek vs. the Communists/Mao; American WWII involvement and the “Flying Tigers”).
  • “So China, a lot of people don’t know this. The next war that Vietnam was involved in after we left Vietnam was with China. They don’t like China.” — Host C (62:33)

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8. Israel Deep-Dive: Religion, Zionism, History, & US Policy

[68:57–106:55]

Key Points & Timeline:

• What is Israel?
  Scriptural Israel is a people (descendants of Jacob/Yaakov/12tribes) not a landmass.
  • “Israel in the Bible is always referred to as the people group.” — Host C (69:29)
• Modern Israel vs. Biblical Israel:
  Modern state created post-WWII after British mandate ended, Jews declared statehood, neighboring Arabs attacked, Jews won (“The Jews basically got to the flagpole first, raised the flag, and said, ‘We’re Israel now.’ ...Only the Muslims did not win.” — C [78:29])
• Zionism explained:
  “A Zionist is someone who wants a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people...Not for anybody else.” — Host C (77:07)
• Why do American Christians feel compelled to support Israel?
  • “Why is it coming from the pulpit that we have to support Israel?...That’s exactly what Israel, the nation state, wanted them to do because they needed to be tied as tightly as they could to the United States for their own survival.” — Host C (104:13)

Notable Quotes & Moments:

• B (on forced polarization):
  “You’re stuck between two very violent groups of people. ...Can I just not like either one of them?” (79:01)
• C (on distinctions):
  “Everybody gets confused between Jewish people, the State of Israel, and Zionism. ...And what happens is, bad people and bad agents hold an entire population hostage...” (105:55)
• C (on religious doctrine):
  “You cannot tell me as a Christian that I have to support the people that crucified Messiah.” (105:40)

Segment Highlights:

• Searing criticism of propaganda and taboos around discussing Holocaust numbers, Stalin’s murders, and “why we’re told to highlight only certain atrocities in history.”
• Discussion of WWII alliances, US aid to Stalin’s USSR, and “narratives we’re taught growing up.”
  • “The war was about the same thing that it’s always been—land and resources. ...Trying to put an idealistic spin on it…” — C (83:24)
• “Holocaust denial” accusations, how historical inquiry is tabooed, and evolving room for discussion (“You could not talk about...You were considered a Holocaust denier and you were shamed...But we’ve moved conversation up…” — A [91:12])
• Repeated insistence on free inquiry—that questioning or criticizing historical or political narratives should not be silenced.

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9. Modern America: Home Ownership, Retirement, and Economic Control

[109:12–116:11]

• Critiques of Social Security, changes in retirement plans, “the racket” of home ownership (“Do you really own your house?” — B [113:19]), and how financial systems keep people subservient.
  • “There is a vested interest in keeping us subservient.” — C (111:56)
• Humorous but pointed look at renting, 50-year mortgages (“You don’t even own your own house…”), and the rise of renting lots for mobile homes as modern “property” hacks.

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10. Quick Hits & End-of-Episode Banter

[116:11–end]

• Random current event: Katy Perry sues dying veteran over property—hosts ridicule Perry and muse over America’s legal culture.
• Inside baseball: Which Florida police and sheriff agencies the hosts admire (“I always say when guys ask, I get a thousand a week about where should I go in Florida. JSO, Martin County SO...”—B [138:11])
• Goofing on Christmas cruise plans, sports (Eli Manning and the NY Giants), and setting expectations for upcoming, looser, Patreon-only Friday shows.

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

• Dominic Izzo:
  “We are lowering the threshold of police professionalism and increasing the ‘well, they’re just human.’ ...We’re making excuses for cops.” (29:47)

• Host B (on race, crime, and policing):
  “Statistics don’t lie...it is consistently young black males in high crime areas that are shooting cops...” (33:55)

• Host C (on Israel & U.S. Christians):
  “That’s exactly what Israel, the nation state, wanted them to do because they needed to be tied as tightly as they could to the United States for their own survival.” (104:13)

• Host A (on propaganda and taboos):
  “You could not talk about...You were considered a Holocaust denier and you were shamed and shunned from society. But we’ve moved conversation up to...” (91:12)

• Host B (on conversation):
  “You should not be suppressed from talking about something. ...the fact that you’re telling me I can’t talk about it leads me to believe maybe it’s not [true].” (107:37)

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SEGMENT TIMESTAMPS

| Time | Segment/Topic | |---------|------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–09:50 | Banter, gratitude, merch, Patreon | | 10:50–21:22 | Somali crisis & local vs. federal policing | | 13:43–17:26 | Policing standards, demographics, US Constitution | | 21:22–41:03 | Cop Talk Live: Jacksonville LEO shooting - deep dive with Dominic Izzo | | 49:00 | Charity Segment: Weston Strong | | 61:04–65:21 | Vietnam, Taiwan, U.S. alliances | | 68:57–106:55 | Israel: religious history, Zionism, propaganda, biblical vs. modern definitions, why US Christian support exists, criticism of taboo topics | | 109:12–116:11 | Home ownership, retirement, modern subservience | | 122:26–140:54 | Final banter: Katy Perry lawsuit, police agency chat, plans for Christmas, officer vests | | 140:54–end | Signoff; Night Shift plug; “JV team for life” joke |

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FINAL REMARKS

• Tone:
  Blunt, unfiltered, sometimes controversial, sometimes darkly humorous, always rooted in a first responder/veteran worldview.
• Purpose:
  Challenge conventional narratives, support blue-collar first responders, foster community, and encourage open (even taboo) discussion of faith, politics, crime, and history.

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For those seeking more:

• Friday Patreon-only episodes are coming for “uncut” topics.
• Night Shift (live, Thursdays 8PM ET) is a looser, more comedic take.

Hosts’ closing:

“You should be able to talk about everything and be informed…because something hurts your feelings doesn’t mean it can’t be talked about…”
— Host B (106:53)

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[End of summary]

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Been a good week.

[C]

Yeah, it has been a good week.

[B]

Jimmy's got a haircut.

[A]

Put it on.

[B]

Jimmy cut his hair.

[A]

What did you do that for?

[B]

Rest in peace.

[D]

Mullet.

[A]

I thought you if you were gonna cut you were going to go full mullet for a little bit. Everybody goes full mullet just for a week. Just to say they did it.

[C]

Oh no, actually I. My wife was like looking at me and she's like, I can tell you're not happy about this. You've been doing it for me. And she was like, hey, go. Just go back to what you were wearing in the army. Go medium fade, no skin, you know, a little bit, you know, a Little bit long on the top.

[A]

I think that would have been too long in the army.

[C]

Oh, this is way too long. Yeah, no, this is what I was wearing when I was a contractor. Okay. So my kids, like, they looked back at old pictures and they're like, this is the one where you look the best, dad. And so. Okay, cool. That's what I did. So gone are the days of the Dale Mullet, and now we're getting rid of the Dale Stash.

[B]

We're all grown up now.

[C]

Going back up, I guess.

[A]

Well, we're at the end of the year where everybody is getting given. Getting given their watch hours of their favorite podcast. And it's extremely humbling to see people post the stories that they've watched. Thousand or they listen to thousands and thousands of thousands of hours of our show. And I. I talk a lot of. I play the bad guy all the time. I say I don't give a. About anybody. Obviously, we know this is entertainment, and I'm so appreciative, and I have no words for that. And to put the amount of time, effort, energy and money that we put into this, you know, there were days when no one was listening. There were. There's been ups, there's been downs. There's been a lot associated with this white skeleton next to me. And the fact that people are proud to post that stuff is like, I. I don't have words for it. And we're just extremely, extremely grateful.

[B]

Yeah, we went through. We went through some times, and here we are. I think things are going very well. I think the things are going in a good direction. A lot of support. Go ahead.

[C]

I forgot to tell you, I got served on Tuesday.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I got.

[C]

The dude came to the door.

[B]

And Mike has not been sued.

Liz. That's all she addresses me now. She leaves a comment on any of my post. She's like, hey, Mike. Mike, who hasn't been sued. And then she starts out the sentence with that.

Got served under the old haircut, though.

[A]

Yeah, I did. Yeah, that's why he was trying to. He was on the run.

[C]

The guy said, he go. He came to the door, man. And he was like, do you know what this is about? And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure. He's like, I read part of it, and then I just stopped. I want no part of this, dude. Don't tell me anything about it.

[B]

You're not a witness.

[C]

Yeah, drunk. I got.

[A]

Well, I got served at the studio for Anti Hero. And then about a week ago, maybe less Than a week ago, I got served at my house.

And the dude, obviously there was a strange man at the door. Everybody's like, what the 2025 brings me Chipotle from. Yeah.

[B]

How I get served.

[A]

And so he goes, I'm assuming you know what this is about. Okay, yeah, dude, I know. And he goes, listen to the show. This is sign here.

Yeah, I swear to God, that happened. It's probably on my ring cam. It is. So just address some of the super chats real quick.

CC says, was it really 6M. Oh, 6 million. Oh, my gosh. We'll get. We're getting there. We're getting there. We're saving the best for last. Guys, did you double check your cameras in the studio? Yep.

[B]

Mike was in it, Jimmy, myself, and we were all here at 10:10. Lewis was over there. We made sure everything went. Then right when we went live, I told Lewis I couldn't hear anything. And I. My mic wasn't working just to watch him.

[C]

He scrambled.

[B]

He took his head set off and looked at me and I'm like, I'm just kidding, Louis.

[C]

I mean, have known when Mike was like, and I can't see.

[B]

Yeah, I can't see. Everything's good.

[A]

And Dylan says, it's been done. Jimmy has got me addicted.

[B]

I'm assuming Dylan, he's on every. He's in my show last night on Hot Topic. Dylan is everywhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Merch D. Merch. I'm probably. He's probably too young for that. The dayon.

[B]

Let me address two things. One, make sure you get in our Patreon. We're doing updates. You're getting studio updates, you're getting behind the scenes updates of everything that's going on in the anti hero world. And I got a DM this morning. Make sure when you go to the website, the antiherobroadcast.com. if you go to antihero.com, it brings you to some other something. Somebody sent me into my DM. So make sure the anti herobroadcast.com. that's where you get the merch. We're updating that. There's gonna be more merch dropping and Patreon will always see that stuff first. And. And we're taking ideas from Patreon as well.

[A]

So yeah, you get to see. We post like, I don't really post too much on social media.

Like videos or anything of me. That's where I save it for Patreon. Like I like if you're thinking about getting the 12 foot white people Christmas tree.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Double Think it and go to Patreon and watch what happens when you try to put it.

[B]

I hadn't logged in my personal Instagram in so long that I. I saw.

[A]

Too far gone.

[B]

Yeah. So I was like, I'm now Patreon. Answering questions in Patreon. That's the easiest way, obviously, to handle it. Yesterday, I was completely out of the loop. I was dealing with a bunch of garbage, and my Cobble DMS packed up like, 90. I couldn't.

[A]

It was bad.

[B]

And it's like. So Patreon is first priority for everybody. Not that everybody doesn't matter, but that's the easiest way to sort everything out, is get to the people that are willing to throw us a few bucks to help the cause and help us. Help us get everything out.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, dude, it sucks, too, because somebody used the Patreon promo coupon. What is it called?

[B]

Like a promo code?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Patreon has got its own, like, really awesome promo code for counterculture ink threads. And he ordered a hat. And you want to know it sucks. Is that.

Oh, it's Brady Biggs. He's always in here, huh? Yeah. He ordered a hat. And it's crazy because I knew I had one left in inventory, and then I went and it was gone.

[B]

Is it that one?

[A]

No, it's a black curve bill hat. Okay.

[B]

No. Oh, did I take that one, too?

[A]

I don't know. Did you?

[B]

I think my wife's wearing it.

[A]

Oh. Oh, that's.

[C]

Sorry, Brady.

[A]

Dude.

[C]

Dude, don't look at me. Yeah, I. I didn't steal my. It was the last one.

[A]

I'm making more.

I sent ready a message.

[B]

I was like, did you see me take it? Did you watch a video?

[C]

No.

[A]

You came out with it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You kind of came out like Jimmy.

[B]

With the C4, though. I took this one, too. I took them both.

[A]

And I'm like, now we're making more. Those ones.

[B]

My wife is. She wears hats everywhere, so always.

[A]

It's a. I love that design. Hats.

[B]

You look at my.

[C]

I wish I had mine.

[B]

Mine's destroyed.

[A]

So is his.

[B]

To prove that I gave it to my wife. Mine is white from sweat. Like, I wear it so much.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's done.

[A]

But we're making more. It's a basic curb counterculture hats. Really good design. Aesthetically pleasing, if you will.

[B]

It fits really well. And I'm. I have trouble with hats. It has to be perfect. And this one I like. This one I like. And that one is. I can't wear any other Hat. That's why it's. And my wife doesn't. She's really bad. But that one was like perfect.

[A]

Well, we'll replace it Yalls gross ass hats when they come in because.

[B]

Yeah, it's good.

[A]

I know Jimmy used to leave his on there like damn, dude. For like five years.

[B]

They go. I mean obviously I wear in the gym a lot, so I mean.

[A]

Yeah, you can see this hat right here. I don't sweat in my hats.

[C]

And it's.

[A]

I mean they just get brownish and gross and. Anyways, we're gonna cover. We're gonna get with Dom Izzo to go over some stuff.

[B]

They want my hat brim bended more. This is not the point. This is a snapback.

[C]

This is.

[A]

Yeah, snapback.

[B]

Snapback is flat.

[C]

If you want the curve. Curve. Another fitted hat.

[A]

No. Well, I mean the counterculture curve builds. I have. Are still snapping.

[B]

I got one for sale, but it's 100 bucks.

[A]

The used one?

[B]

No, the new one.

[A]

The Somali crisis in Minnesota has gotten worse.

[C]

Oh yeah, it's. It's.

[B]

So mayor has gotten worse.

[C]

Here's where it all kind of started, right.

[B]

Chief of police.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah. So let me go back here, pull up my notes. So the.

The Somalis got into a.

A little bit of a problem because they decided to steal like eight. I think it was. It was a billion with a B. A number. I gotta go look at my notes. And in welfare fraud. And so once the D.C. shooting happened and the fraud thing came out at about the same time we're trying to figure out if Elon Omar knew what she knew because it seems like you're a lawmaker in that same area and it's your people group, the Somali immigrants. Maybe you knew something.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So the Trump administration basically said, hey, we're coming for you. And they are right now as we speak, kicking down doors.

[B]

But the. I saw the chief of Minneapolis Police said call 911 to report where ICE is and our officers will stop them essentially, is what he was saying. Like they're gonna try to run. Yes. It was all over the news. Right on the news. I saw somebody make a clown turn into a cloud.

[C]

Yeah, okay. That's what it was.

[B]

It might have been cc. I don't know. Somebody did it. But yeah, you got the chief of the police department basically actively saying we're not going to enforce or we're going to deflect or we're going to get involved in helping you. Call 911 if you see.

[C]

How can you as a Leo, what are you going to do?

[B]

I mean, it's the. It's.

[A]

I.

[B]

My episode yesterday on Cobbille was called the elevator of accountability. Only goes down and it's the same thing. Nobody goes up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And gets those people. And until chiefs, congressmen, sheriffs start getting arrested. And I think that's a big thing Dom always says is, like, until we start arresting these people that seem untouchable or act untouchable, it's going to continue. You how that statement alone should be terrorists. That's terrorism.

[C]

You're putting officers in danger.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

That.

[B]

That is a predicament.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, like, what are you going to do to stop this guy? Like.

[D]

Like.

[C]

Like. Okay, so you. You're covered under state, but that don't stop federal charges, homeboy.

[B]

We talked about in Chicago and D.C. where you see, we covered that one story where they were told to stand down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now you have government police being attacked or whatever, and you got a entire police agency that responds and says, we're not going to help you.

[A]

Can.

[C]

Can we say the C word now? Can we say that this is how we end up in a civil war? This is how you. This is how you do it.

[B]

Right here it is.

[C]

And I mean, the poor office. I mean, I'm sure there are cops that are up there that watch this show or watch shows like it that are like, I want no part of this. None whatsoever. And they are. They are in a trick trying to figure this out.

[B]

But it's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it goes back to, do you. Do you basically take unconstitutional orders or not? That's really what it is. You have the president, United States saying, these guys are my. My immigration department. They're going to enforce the federal law. And you have police going, we're not going to help.

[A]

Well, that should be criminal.

[B]

That should be terrorism. That's domestic terrorism. You are. You're acting as an agent against the government at that point.

[A]

Yeah. Are they Somali cops?

[C]

There are several. Sure. There are several Somali cops.

[A]

I mean, there's a part of me that's okay with that because I do believe that local police should be a direct representation of the area, much like in it. But at the same time, they have to. It's like Michael says, you have to enforce the U.S. constitution. You have to enforce law.

[C]

The law that was made by the Congress and signed by the President.

[B]

Well, and. And those. And here's my thing is what those local agencies love, the federal government. When the DEA brings all their OCDEF money in to run cases and pay overtime and pay for helicopter fuel or.

[C]

Get cool gear for your squad guys.

[D]

Homeland security pays for the grants.

[B]

Stone garden grant. Stone garden grants like $3 billion that local agencies pays for fuel, overtime, helicopter, gas, all that stuff. They love that. Yeah, but then when the feds come in and say, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna actually enforce the law over here. This little document we have that says you can't come in here illegally, we're gonna, we're gonna, no, we can't do that. But give us money. You know, it's, and that's, that's it.

[C]

You know, I, I saw something very similar to this overseas. Not gonna say where.

Where. You know, we were giving out micro grants to people and they were like, oh yeah, great. This, micro grants are great. And we're like, hey, could you help us find the guys that are in the road? Oh, no.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, people, yeah, same thing. They want, they want money for sure. But I mean, dude, it's such a. Because right. It, it's so dependent on what we're talking about. Because right now I'm like, I almost said it. When the feds come in and say, you need to do police work. You need to listen and do police work. And then on, on the 10 minutes, fast forward this, we'll probably be on the fed saying, don't make us into government bots.

[B]

That's where you have to walk the line. I don't think we, there's a difference between gun grabbing second, violating the second amendment and all that. There's, that's one side of it, of the ATF and all that. We can argue that all day, but in this case, you just saw what happened in D.C. and you saw people getting murdered. That, that is a very small scale compared to what could potentially happen and what those radical people are capable of. When does it change when there's 3, 000 people dead, another 3, 000 people dead with the 5,000, what is the number now where America gets back to September 12, 2001 and says, we're all a country, we have to stop this from happening?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Two guardsmen didn't seem to do it.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, so I, I, you know, to, to Tyler's point too, and you know, like, hey, we're going to be saying, hey, you know, follow the federal government, but also don't turn us into bots. Well, what's, what's the, you know, what's the litmus test for that? It's what's in the U. S. Constitution I agree.

[A]

I just, I mean, I feel like the only way police work is police work because it's, it's enforcing social contractory. And you are not a government buy, although the government pays you. It's just like how they pay the trashmen. You have a right to have your trash taken from your house. So the government pays for them. So that way that therefore, you know, it's.

[B]

It's a what? The whole thing is wild when I start. It's almost like space to me. When you start thinking about how far away things are. When you think about standing in the United States soil in one place and staying on the same soil a thousand miles away. And it's like you're in two different worlds.

[A]

Well, I always.

[B]

Same U.S. constitution, but two different worlds.

[A]

I always argue this in the hood. You don't need 22 year old white kid, college grads out there trying to enforce, enforce hood law. No, it doesn't work.

[B]

No.

[A]

That's the same as 26 year old federal agents fresh out of college going into Minneapolis where many of the people.

Support this and so should the actual cops that are on ground there, the local cops, should they be Somalian or Somali? And, and enforcing.

[C]

Well, I mean, here's my first question. Was there a question to join the police department on whether or not you're a U. S. Citizen?

[A]

Yes, it's a no. They don't question you. But it is. Yeah, it's a prerequisite.

[B]

Just like. Yeah, yeah, that's what.

[C]

No, I'm not. I mean like does it say yeah, if.

[B]

No, you have to answer one of those. I have my xyz like I'm a naturalist.

[A]

I don't even think you.

[B]

I think you can be.

[A]

I think you got to be a U.S. citizen.

[C]

Well, I may depend. Agency to agency.

[A]

Well, we covered. Well, we covered two years ago. We covered when LAPD had their recruit. First recruit ever that was a non US Citizen in the academy.

[B]

Yeah. Now you have one in Chicago that got detained. Yeah, the one in Chicago.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So talked about it. The guy was a non US Citizen.

[C]

He's a, he's. He's on tourist visa that expired in 2015.

[B]

They arrested. They, they arrested him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

On duty.

[B]

No, he's back. They arrested him on duty, made it aware that he's no longer. He's not a citizen. He was processed and now he's. They hot. They brought him back.

[C]

They didn't contest his bond, so I don't know what that means. That's.

[B]

You have a non US Citizen.

[C]

Yeah, Enforcing US Constitution.

[A]

That's crazy to me. That whole concept is nuts. Like, you haven't even proven that you know the US Constitution through basic knowledge of taking a test to get your citizens.

[B]

Drewy. No, the comedian. Do you ever watch the ones about when he brings the people about that are.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Aliens. And he brings them in, like, ask them questions. They're like. They ask him. These guys can't even get close, man. Like, simple questions like, who was the first president of the United States? He's like, I don't know, Colonel Sanders. Like, they have no idea about anything to do with anything about America.

[C]

I don't give a piss about nothing but the tide, baby.

[B]

So good.

[A]

And it's like.

Cece says, Somali police chief, Somali sheriff, clown emoji. Yeah. Are they. Are they all Somali?

[B]

No, it's white male.

[A]

It'd be better if they were Somali.

[C]

I. I mean, at least we can understand.

[B]

There's a white male standing up there saying, do not help the federal government.

[C]

Let's. Let's just go ahead and talk about this for a second. There are 83,000 Somali immigrants in the Twin Cities.

[B]

That we can count.

[C]

That we can count.

[B]

And that's.

[C]

I have seen a. A small movie, an un. Unknown movie called Blackhawk down about how dangerous Somalia is. And then later on in my life, I actually went to that place. I wouldn't be surprised if that guy was like, dude, 83, 000 Somalia. Oh, yeah, I didn't tell you that.

[A]

I don't think so.

[C]

I thought I said that last week.

[B]

Does that count?

[C]

I was a. I was a contractor for U. S. Department of State.

[A]

Oh, that's. You went to. Okay, we.

[C]

We went there to assess whether or not we could have a consulate, and we said, no, not unless you want to put up Italian marines here and you want another Beirut. It was nuts. It was the worst place I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

What.

[B]

Why Minnesota, do you think? Probably from Canada.

[C]

No, I think that it was just that Minnesota's blue as, not because of cold, and they gave him some like. Like, hey, come here. You know, we'll give you snap benefits and, you know, housing and.

[A]

Yeah, and CC Says. And they gave him back pay. Yeah, they did. Oh, the cop.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they back paid him. All right.

[A]

Anything else about Somalia?

[C]

I mean, we've pretty much covered it. I mean, they're.

[A]

They're.

[C]

They're cracking skulls right now, so.

[A]

All right, in our segment, Cop Talk live with Dominic Izzo.

Bring them on.

[D]

You sure you want to bring Me on or is this going to cost some more?

[B]

No, no.

I don't mind the death threats I get after you're on everything.

[D]

Hey, I just want to say everything I'm about to say is going to be completely taken out of context. So let's do it.

So before.

[B]

I want. I don't know if you've seen this story break yet. Dom, I want you to watch this. Cold. Did you see the shooting in Jacksonville that just got released yesterday?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, Lewis, can you roll that body cam? I want nobody to understand. I want you to watch this first.

[A]

Out of context.

[B]

Out of context.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

This is the. This is what transpired. This is a. One second. This is a body cam video. Crashed vehicle that was pitted for being stolen.

[A]

Okay, go ahead.

Miles an hour. We are going. Going west down on.

[B]

45.

[A]

40.

[B]

Oh, first time. Get your hands out of your pants.

[C]

I'm gonna shoot you.

[B]

Take your hands out of your pants. Take your hands out of your pants. Turn on. Get on your.

[A]

All right. Hey, hey.

[D]

Don't go for a handcuff.

[B]

Don't you move.

[C]

Don't you move.

[B]

That's good. They immediately. They immediately cuff and render it. He runs back to his car, brings the car up. That's all you have. That is a 14 year old unarmed black male.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Video came out yesterday, so get ready. So they were in a still. All you have right there is they were in a stolen vehicle.

[A]

Their knowledge right now.

[B]

No, no, you're gonna get to see their knowledge. But what I'm saying, what you guys are seeing is that is all that was, was a stone vehicle. He was unarmed. There was no gun on him. The officer's running after him. He's reaching his pants. That's downtown Jacksonville in the middle of the war zone.

[A]

Okay, so it's a good shoot either way.

[B]

Okay, it is, but now I want MLK driving.

[D]

He was black.

[B]

I mean, it looks.

[D]

It looks so.

[B]

I know Ben Crump's coming. This is going to be.

[D]

This is.

[B]

They just released this. They waited. So here is this. This is what really was going on. This is the state attorney who accelerated the investigation and gave a statement yesterday as the video was released to prepare for what is going to be a disaster. Go ahead.

[E]

Conference today to discuss an officer involved shooting that occurred on November 1st. Though the incident has not yet drawn media attention, we expect it may once the body worn camera footage is released. Because this case involved an unarmed teenager and a very unusual sequence of events, our office has accelerated its investigation and legal review in just 30 days. We completed a process that typically, as you all know, takes between six and 12 months. And because we anticipate community interest, we believe it's important to clearly explain to the public our office's role in officer involved shooting investigations as well as our legal conclusion. So our office's role in these matters is narrow but critical to determine whether a shooting officer's conduct was criminal or not. That's it. And so today I'll walk through the facts in the law that led us to conclude that this shooting officer's actions were not criminal and were in fact lawful.

Around 6pm on Saturday, November 1, four teenagers in northwest Jacksonville planned and carried out a theft of a doordash driver's car. They placed an order, distracted the driver when he arrived, separated from him from his vehicle and stole his black Kia Optima.

[B]

Pause it for one second there. So in and of itself that sounds like a stolen very minor. I mean it wasn't a carjacking, it was just a.

[C]

It was daughter.

[B]

I mean and if anybody. Yeah, it's a property crime. So it sounds like, oh God now kid died over just jumping in a vehicle. But now listen to what, what they were dealing with all at once. And my point of this is, I'm. You call me liberal, Mike, I'm done. Like the. This is not going on anywhere else but in these hood neighborhoods that these cops don't deserve to be dealing with this. So continue to go with all the calls that were going on at one time. Listen to this.

[E]

That auto theft set in motion a chain of events that ultimately led to one of Those teenagers, a 14 year old, being shot by a police officer after fleeing from a dangerous crash scene. A little over an hour before the shooting, a rapid series of 911 calls came in reporting three different felonies. An auto theft, a hit and run and a drive by shooting. These crimes occurred both close in time to one another, actually within minutes of each other and close in distance within two miles. And because of information reported, they appeared in fact to be related.

[B]

Okay, you're good, you're good. So what happened was you had. My point of this. You had a drive by shooting, auto theft and a hit and run, all in felony, all criminal. And the suspect vehicle in all three was a black kia. Okay, so these guys are chasing a black KIA with the knowledge that all those events had just occurred. Yeah, so they Reasonable. Reasonable to believe that the end. The guy died at the drive by. So it was a homicide. Okay, so what is going to be spun is this was just a Stolen car and poor Johnny got killed. What really happened was those poor cops dealing with. Imagine where else in America can you go pick a neighborhood anywhere on earth that those three kind crimes occur within three minutes of each other. You're actively responding at in one minute to a drive by homicide.

[A]

I will say Orlando but Jacksonville handles it better.

[B]

Correct, but that but most people can't even imagine your suburban white people can't imagine that there's a drive by a grand theft auto and a hit and run fatality within 34 blocks mile of each other 2 miles she said all at the same time with 911 going off at once. And these cops have to figure out everything in the suspect vehicle in all three is a black Kia.

[A]

Now was it that suspect?

[B]

That was not that was they were not related to the shooting. But as the information was being disseminated in their heads they were. They were. When she said a sequence of wild events they were connected. They thought the drive by shooting and the theft were all related and that's.

[A]

Why it was probably just another stolen kid. Dude, come on.

[B]

Yeah, so I, I, I wanted Dom's opinion on that. Obviously the video. Look, Ben Crump is probably already there and I want Dom's opinion on this.

[D]

I'm sorry what?

[B]

Go ahead, do it.

[D]

Here's I will be for those who are gonna get pissed off over this. I think this is where the standard of hiring process is going to be really under suspect because all of those things in himself where you're giving all these cops now more leeway to use force under what if.

[B]

Right.

[D]

And you're seeing it increase. You have two unarmed guys were shot by Aurora Colorado police in this last year on our one one was the that guy at the airport who that cop just he wasn't even threat right then he had the older guy who he the, the suspect had a gun, threw the gun away. The cop punches him in the back head died. Turns around, squares up cop shoots him. You've got Mustang. Mustang police female cop shows up for a mental health subject in crisis. Taser doesn't work. Family members are saying he needs help. The guy had a pair of gloves in his hands. She shoots and kills him. Police chief says he could have, he could have escalated it. And that's where we're at right now. So I know it's going to piss a lot of people off but you have to look at the totality of the circumstances. We talk all the time. We, we are lowering the threshold of police professionalism and increasing the. Well they're just human. They're just human.

[B]

I get it.

[D]

Adrenaline dump. Pursuits are the worst pursuits are the absolute. I've been in five pursuits. They are the adrenaline dump. You get out, your foot is on the face of the subject with your gun pointed at him, and any one of your partners go, dude, he's in, he's in cuffs. You don't, you know, put your gun away. I get the adrenaline dump. But you're looking at things. We're, we're, we're making excuses for cops. Look at it, look at this. In that video alone, is it. You guys are firearms aficionados. Is it reasonable to, to state that you're really in danger? I know a lot of people are gonna go, yeah, but what if we have a subject is running from you at full speed in low light conditions and they have a gun. What do you think the odd, the, the, the accuracy of them turning and shooting you downrange in low light conditions, running is, are they going to hit you with a target?

[A]

Usually pretty good.

[D]

They can't hit each other. They can't hit each other in their own driveway.

[B]

They seem to be able to hit the cops really good, though.

[D]

My whole point is this, and I get the defense on it. But here's the deal is now you're, you're asking for a level of professionalism to increase. Okay, yeah, you've got all this going on at once, but don't we want our cops to go, I, I got an adrenaline dump. There's three things going on at once. All of us got this. I'm going to take the chance that I'm going to shoot to, to cover my own behavior or my own ass. Or is it, hey, last time I checked, especially when it comes to deadly force, it's not a. Well, the subject could have a gun. You have to stop and be able to say, I saw an object that looked like a gun. I saw an object that could be perceived as a gun. Just somebody running and reaching in their pants when you can't see. I, we have lowered that threshold because we have shitty cops to say, well, he could have produced a gun. And it's going to get worse. You're going to get cops who are going to show up on scene. They're going, hey, do you have your driver's license on you? No, I don't. And then because they can articulate, the guy looks scary, they can pump 15 rounds into the car. That's where we're going.

[B]

I, I agree slightly and disagree. Where I disagree is I think this Is a cultural issue. And in these situations, I want you to find a neighborhood on the beach, suburban America, where these types of crimes are happening over and over.

And now the ones you highlight at the beginning are absolutely atrocious. And I put. I put that on the location. Lack of training, lack of ever dealing with real crime in their lives in Jacksonville. I'm going to side with these guys on this one more because they're dealing with war and we're not seeing it every day. And I understand what you're saying as far as possibly could be armed, But I have a very liberal friend that lives in California and he sends me videos like this and says, or when cops get killed, he goes, why didn't the cops shoot him sooner? Well, because he's got to wait to see a gun. I don't always agree with that. They have to wait to see a gun. I agree with what you said at the beginning about those incidents. They were absolutely unjustified, did not need to be shot. I side with the cop on this one because I don't think based on just the call alone and the three calls happening and where they work and what they see every day, I don't have to wait for that dude to go over his shoulder with the miraculous round that seems to always find cops hit me in the thumb, ricochet into my odor, and I die.

I know you're not, but I'm saying, overall, I agree with you.

[D]

Here's the biggest problem. The biggest problem is, is your argument, which is true. Well, now you just set something up that needs to be law. And I'm going to say it because nobody else is saying it. Blacks need to be policed differently than every other culture out there. Then if it's a cultural problem, I agree. That means the laws need to change and we need a separate, different set of standards. To 100 say it needs to be testimony and it needs to be standard. Your honor, the subject was black. The subject was from this neighborhood. Pattern recognition says that it is a higher likelihood that blacks will resist. They will deploy firearms on us. I therefore can now increase my grand v. Connor. My reasonable suspicion. My, my everything, you name it. And I can use force quicker because it has been proven historically time after time that blacks are X and the rest of the community is X, Y, Y and Z.

[B]

And I always, as I said last week, statistics don't lie. Statistics don't lie. And in this case it'll be, he's racist. He's not. I mean, if you think that dude jumped out of his Card because that kid was black and shot him because he was black. That's insane. And it will be said. And he. If you watch the video further, it's on there Jacksonville's website, YouTube. He runs back to his car, frantically speeds back to the scene and they administer aid. They do everything they're supposed to do. I agree with you. Like I said in the beginning, in this case with these circumstances, the statistics and the videos and thousands of videos we see, it is consistently young black males in high crime areas that are shooting cops shooting their own people. Just last week, what do we have A birthday party shot up in a birthday party shot and 10, 11, 12 people killed.

[A]

Do you think that the reason why policing is going the way it is first off, much like how the car coming straight for you 10 years ago you could dump 15 rounds into it, be justified. Now I don't know if it's called case law, but essentially somebody somewhere said you're not in fear for your life because you're standing in front of the car. Therefore now you cannot shoot into a car. Do you think it will be the same?

[B]

The other problem with that is now.

[D]

You got a, a 2,000pound or a 2 ton impact weapon that has no control of a driver and it's going to be plowing to somebody else. So there's a lot of issues with that.

[A]

Well, do you think that they're going to use the same argument in the sense that when you chase someone on foot you are now putting yourself.

[D]

They do that in Chicago. They don't allow footprises and foot chases anymore. The reason they stop, they stopped doing in my state vehicle pursuit policies was that the fact is it is the officer triggering now the fight or flight and the driver. So if the driver goes off and crashes and kills a family of five because they were trying to flee or elude and arrest. Well, it's the officer who had the overhead lights and sirens on. And that's. So that's, that's what they're arguing in this. Again, you can make it fit that shooting. To be honest, there's nothing lawfully unjust about it. If the cops had the rest of that information, if it was just as is stolen vehicle and they didn't have any knowledge of a firearm and he's just running and he shoots him from behind you. Well dude, you can't.

[C]

I agree.

[B]

No, I agree. That's why I set it up first with the video and then her. The statement from the.

The statement from the attorney because it. All those factors in and even you, as much as you were not maybe against it, but pointed out you made your point, can understand all those factors combined change it a little bit versus just shooting an unarmed black guy in the back. The Ben Crumps and all that will not, they will not address that. The family probably won't address that. They're just going to say he's a young black kid who got shot by a white cop because he's racist. And that is not what happened. And you're right about training, you're right about professionalism, all those things are right. But we have to hold these case by case. In this case, I believe that cop was 100 justified based on the information he had. He doesn't need to see a gun first or be shot if his intentions were in in fact that now if he made it up, the guy's not reaching.

[D]

You'll never see it.

[B]

You'll never see it because the body.

[D]

The radio traffic, if they've got radio traffic from three different places, black vehicle is fleeing the scene and they've got all information, that's fine. Over in the chat you got aqua pong sayings. Dominic, you don't have to take in consideration whether the guy can shoot accurately. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying is it's going to become that way. You're going to push all of these. I was in fear for my safety. Is the standard for cops that are going to be using force, deadly force especially. Well, when you get and I've talked about this several times with the 30 by 30 agenda is going to change the landscape of use of force on people, including all the way up to this. If you have, if the four of us are capable, able men who are tactically trained are of imposing figure and whatnot and you reproduce that to have a department of a hundred of us. Well that's the baseline 100. And that means that reasonable articulation and objectively reasonable is by Randy Connor is associated across the board that 75% of us agree that the Aurora, Colorado shootings, they're not justified at all. Unarmed subjects cops should have been able to go hands on. When you start to put in inferior police because their hiring process is insane or 30 by 30, literally 30 if you make 30% of the police force women. Well now you just changed it to 100 men who are like us to 70. You are now opening the door, decreasing the average and lowering the threshold where now you have a shift. Oh it's our all female shift of five women on well, now all five women across that board, 100 objectively reasonable say you can shoot someone like that. So you are lowering the threshold. What I'm saying is yes, you can lawfully articulate it, but over time, the more you have cops just Indiana Jones show right up the swordsman right there it and shoot him, the more you are going to change it to where lawyers like Ben Crump will go. Really? Officer, we saw Mike Brown out of Chicago do a turn and shoot demonstration on a range day. And Mike is a former police officer, adjunct professor and a firearms expert that trace trains hundreds of thousands of people every year and he can't shoot a target like that. So you're going to say you were in reasonable apprehension of being shot. This is where I'm saying the lawyers will create these arguments.

[B]

And, and you're right, the argument can be created. I stand with what somebody said. You can't judge, though, the potential accurate accuracy of a round.

[D]

No, that's dead.

[B]

Because anything could happen. But I think where we differ is I guess you look, you're. Which is right. You're looking at it from the broad level. You're. You're bringing the Aurora shootings in to this one. I agree that those ones are bad. And what that does, it gives you your platform to say police are acting wild. Because they are.

[D]

They are.

[B]

Those shootings are horrendous.

[D]

And when you.

[B]

And it takes away from Jacksonville guy because he's actually doing things based on what he's really seeing and what he's feeling. And in Aurora, they're just shooting people is what I think you're. You're saying the only way to fix.

[D]

That is to say that you can police differently in different communities. And the next time, the next time you get some social justice or Ben Crump going out there going, blacks are targeted. You need police command to push back as hard as possible and say, all right, let's talk about the black community. They are out of control in our town. Our tactics are lawful, they're justified, and we're going to start using them harder. But command stuff doesn't do that.

[B]

That. And maybe he will. I hope he does, because that. That was the point I was trying to drive. Force is forward. You can't just say they're all the same. Because I hate to say this, but we've been, we've been talking about it. We've had a black male stab a woman on a train, a white woman. We've had set a person on fire. And then I can't Find. I'm sure they're out there. Please send it to me. I don't see very many, if any, videos of four white males in a stolen KIA in the middle of the hood.

I can't find it. I can't find a shooting at a. I can't find a shooting at a, at a Dairy Queen where there's 150 white people partying for a birthday and three juveniles end up dead. And there's a mass shooting with an AK47. I just now. Do white people do the mass shootings in schools? Yes, it's primarily white males.

Well, yeah, transgender as well, but. But primarily those. So when we, we, we. As a white male, I can say white men tend to go into schools or try to assassinate presidents and all that stuff like it's, it is. But will the police leaders go and your neighborhood, the black neighborhood is out of control with these type of crimes. And I expected the police to prepare to shoot somebody at a higher level than if it wasn't in the hood. That's what I'm getting.

[D]

I have a solution. I have, I've had a solution for 20 years. And it's simply like in Chicago, we've got different neighborhoods. You've got, you know, the ones that are far more vile. If we have a. We have Oak Park, Illinois, which is a suburb and it's the far. It's. It borders Austin and Austin is the furthest west neighborhood in Chicago before you get into the suburbs. And in Oak park, you're talking rich white people, average home was like six, seven hundred thousand dollars. And you go over one block and it's a war zone. I've said this for years. You need to take every fire, every ems, everyone, and remove them out of those neighborhoods and put them in the neighborhoods where people are actually compliant and behaving and functioning well into society. And tell the black neighborhoods that are out of control. When you learn how to function properly in a society, you will get your taxpayer funded ems, fire and medical back. Until then, we're walling you off. It's going to be a quarantine zone. No one in or out. You stay where you're at. And then when you learn how to function properly, you'll get your services back.

[B]

Yep, I agree.

[D]

Yes. Here's the problem. The biggest problem is, is I could see it from legal point of view all this. And it's the number one reason why like Chicago pd, they take like these, these Northsiders or whoever else, these, these white kids who go into the academy and and they're all amped up all the time, right? We see videos like this non stop on social media. The white kid has no contact with blacks ever in their career. And then all of a sudden they pump them into the neighborhoods of Chicago. And you're, you're brainwashed to believe that every, every, every black is an animal in Chicago. If that's the case, then why, why are we setting the cops up for failure by interacting with a culture that can't interact back properly? You're setting the police.

[A]

Stop.

[D]

Stop it. You need to remove police services from these violent black communities because the only ones who suffer are the cops, as far as I'm concerned.

[B]

Yep. All right, Dom, we appreciate you coming on. I would like you to dive back into that one, if you don't mind. It's Jacksonville, so they just released it yesterday on YouTube. The Chief and the professional standards captains on there, they break it down, the whole thing. That was just a smidget. And then there's the state attorney from Jacksonville also. I think that's one that's right up your alley. That usually would dive into pretty good as far as how that went down.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

There you have it, gents.

[A]

Make sure you catch Dominic Izzo, Cop Talk live Fridays at seven.

[D]

Yeah. Seven Central, eight Eastern, six Mountain and.

[A]

Five Pacific, Friday nights. Good times.

[B]

All right, cool, guys.

[D]

And then appreciate it. God given. Right?

Don't arbitrarily just shoot a cop because then you'll get the crybabies thinking I said so.

[B]

Thanks, Tom. Take care.

[A]

Later, man.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Do we have video issues again?

[A]

We did. Now we're back.

[C]

And so I, I'm troubleshooting it. Well, I, I, that's what I was doing over here.

[B]

It's the same thing. The video for everybody else is good and ours is bad.

[C]

Yeah, so that's a, that's a compression issue now. It's not a upload download speed now. Now we're dealing with settings and auto settings and algorithms.

[B]

It doesn't happen in streamlab.

[C]

In streamlabs. Right, right.

[B]

No, no, it only happened here.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What?

Does it look okay now?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it looks fine now. So basically what's happening is Jimmy's like.

[A]

Basically I fixed it.

[C]

No.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

I mean, I did do this for a living once. When we bring other guests in, that's when we're having issues.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right, so now we've got a compression issue because the videos, it's basically compressing us through that computer, through that thing right there. So we need to make sure that the Settings are static.

[B]

And one comment. The racism was real on this one. I love that comment because that's. That's exactly what people are going to say. Statistics show all that. This. This happens is what it is, man.

[A]

We're about to get real statistically here later, so stick around.

[B]

It's like a stupid comment like that. It's just racism, dude. But no, here's the thing. It devalues real racism. There are racist.

[A]

I guarantee you that dude is white.

[B]

Yeah, there are real racist people. I've dealt with them. I worked with the one that still works at the sheriff's office. He's a terrible person. He just fired a black female for absolutely nothing. I covered it yesterday. There are racist people that should be dealt with that are pieces of garbage. This has nothing to do with racism. This has to do with statistics. And when we fix the problem, maybe we can see the statistics change. Right now, you can't argue it.

[A]

Maybe he wasn't. He said, I am Y. Lol. So maybe. Was it. Was he being facetious?

[B]

I don't know. But it's like that type of. You want to be funny, that's fine. But that. That's the stuff. Like, it just.

[A]

I noticed when you're heated, you go like this.

[B]

I know. Because I want to go stretch your arm.

[D]

Because.

[B]

Devalues it. It's just like crying wolf when the cop. Oh, they're treating me bad, and they're really not. Or the woman that claims I'm being harassed and she's really not. It devalues the real racism that we should be dealing with. That's. That happen.

[A]

Here's the thing. The racist part about this is the generations of liberal democratic parties keeping one gener, one race on food stamps, in housing developments in Section 8, making them feel like this is life. That's the real they. They. The. That type of government needs these people to be like that.

[C]

It's almost like we need a. A lower class, like a. Like a. A class of serfs. You know, it's just.

[A]

Are you. I don't know. History.

[C]

I'm trying to dance around the S word.

[A]

Serfs. Yeah.

[C]

No, the other one. The one we had a civil war about.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

Come on, man. The American Civil War.

[A]

Slaves?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

You don't have to dance around.

[C]

It's a story.

[A]

I'm telling you right now. You think that what we're gonna get into in the second half of the show isn't gonna ruffles?

Right?

[B]

It just like I like what Dom said. I work the hood. I Worked the hood my whole career and never had a problem. Never. I say it all the time. I put myself after 23 years on the Internet, where's a person call me a racist? Where's the person saying I was. I mistreated black people in the community.

[C]

There isn't only Russian ladies.

[B]

Yeah, Russian ladies. But he's right about that. It takes a certain level of, of connection and ability to work that neighborhood fairly because you can't just go, oh, I'm in a black neighborhood. Everything's bad. They're not. There's amazing people.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

In every neighborhood, there's great people who are struggling to get by.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Crime is rampant. It just is. There's more crime in that neighborhood. I mean, it's that simple. I don't know why we dance around. It seems like we're getting to the.

[C]

Point of kind of over it, talking.

[B]

About it like it's not racism, it's facts. And I, it has nothing to do with liking, disliking, wanting to oppress a race. It has to do with statistics and what is seen on Instagram. We scroll all day, we all see it, but we won't say anything about it. And it's every real.

[A]

Let's bring something. Well, it's awful. Bring the mood down. Even more beautiful. Our charity of the week.

We don't have much on it. It is a, it's a, it's a child. So they don't want his picture out there.

But we'll put more info out as we get it. But we want to put it on the show now while we have your guys attention.

Like I said, we try to do a charity, a GoFundMe something. And this isn't, this isn't asking for any money. It's a boy named Weston.

He suffers from E Wing sarcoma. And we got news that he might not make it to Christmas. He loves Christmas and everything to do with it. We're trying to get people to send him a Christmas card from each of the 50 states or even beyond.

It can be mailed to. And I'm gonna say this, so write it down and then I'll put it in a reel. So maybe if you didn't catch it now you can go catch it on Instagram or something. They can be mailed to Weston Strong. That's the group name. 9 Park Ave. Salem, NH 03079.

Again, he's asking for Christmas cards because he's a little boy that's not gonna make it to Christmas.

[B]

Imagine being a parent.

[A]

No I can't.

[C]

So I. I put it in the chat. By the way, I just typed it up.

[A]

Oh, you got the address?

[C]

Yeah. 9 Park Ave. Salem, NH 03079.

[B]

Jimmy's on it.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

Dude, the hair's not in his way now. See the screen?

[C]

It's a. It's a Kim's game, man. It's a Kim's game. We play him in sniper school.

That. Drink, boys, drink.

[A]

I'm gonna pin the message. So 9 Park Ave. Salem, New Hampshire, 03079. Perfect. I pinned it. It's at the top. If you can.

[B]

$5 for a card? What? $0.70? $0.67.

[A]

This kid is. Is gonna. He's going to read your Christmas card. Probably one of the last things.

[B]

Videos jacked again.

[C]

Here we go. So when we get done, I'm gonna. We're gonna forget the WI fi settings and I'm gonna reset this router.

[A]

Why didn't we do that to begin with?

[C]

That. Just because we did it once doesn't mean we. I don't know about the WI fi setting. We never talked about that.

[A]

I'm.

[C]

I'm just going, like, all right, I'm. I'm axing it.

[A]

That is crazy. I don't know. I mean. So the wife. The router is wired. I'm looking at. Wired into the computer.

[C]

That's right. That's correct. That doesn't mean that the Lewis make sure that we're not connected to the WI fi.

[B]

It could be. It's got to be something to do with these cameras going yes or not.

[C]

Okay, so it's. It's not the Ethernet. That's not the problem. We've eliminated this.

[A]

This studio is filmed with these cameras for a year, and in the last studio a year before, the only thing.

[B]

That'S changed is stream. Stream yard.

[C]

No, but it was doing that before stream yard.

[B]

Was it?

[A]

No. Was it? No, no, no.

[B]

It started when it was in streamyard, then it.

[C]

Then it has to do with compression.

[B]

Of these settings and. Yeah, there's so much data coming in through that one program and multiple pull cameras and all that. It's got to be what it is.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We may have to. We have to upgrade.

[A]

So upgrade to another software.

[C]

We'll figure out a solution after this stream.

[B]

He said moving along.

[A]

Well, I mean, the problem is I. I wouldn't watch a podcast like this. I wouldn't. So I don't know. We're.

[B]

Lunch is early today, dude.

[A]

It's. It's not. I'm firing everybody today. What the is going on.

Yeah.

[B]

I mean we have to. Might have to eat up. The guests coming in versus the string quality is obviously way more important. Well because so.

[A]

But the guest came in. So now it's going to be shitty because the guest came in.

[B]

No, I don't know that that's it. I'm saying that in the other program it never happened and we never had to worry about it, but we just couldn't have guess in the stream labs there's also Riverside. There's other programs.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That do the same thing.

[A]

This does, does.

[B]

But this program, I don't know.

[C]

Yeah. So I've been, I've been looking at it. I've been trying to troubleshoot through stream yard right now. While, while you guys were talking. Wasn't that I wasn't paying attention. I haven't had anything to drink. I know, I know. You're. You're serious right now. I'm sorry.

Yeah. So the next thing we're going to do is just try restarting the router and then we're gonna. We're gonna work the camera settings. So.

[A]

Well, what do we do? Do we do we end the stream, try to do it and come back at like 12:30 or something? Like, I mean there's. Because what happens is it's the same thing. I don't know if you guys know this, but we ended the last stream and then they fixed the problem five minutes later. So we went the whole time, this isn't a problem.

[B]

This isn't, this isn't a problem. The last one was a problem that boxing reset. This is nothing anybody did wrong. This is.

[A]

No, but I'm saying if we fix it, I don't want like what'll happen is we'll end the show and then be like, guys, we fix it. So I mean we haven't fixed it yet.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Should we just bite the bullet, end it and then launch another one?

[C]

I think that's exactly what we should do. That would be my recommendation because at least then we can. Once it's a week, it's like trying to fix the plane while it's flying. It's very difficult to do. Turn it off. Let's reconvene.

[A]

We went two solid weeks without any issues and now we're back to this again.

[C]

Yeah. So we're, we gotta, we gotta figure out what's going on with the settings over there and we got to make sure that the camera settings are. Are up to 1080p and 12.

[A]

Well, what's yalls about? Do you want to just knock this out in shitty quality and then start fixing cameras. Because what'll happen is if we start getting into like camera settings and figuring all this stuff out, it'll be 3pm before we're like, oh yeah, we didn't finish our episode. So if it's something that we can fix right now or we just risk turning it on and turning it off.

[C]

I think that's what we should do. I think we should give it a shot. My biggest issue is that when this becomes a, an issue. Yeah, it does look like bit rate.

We, we lose a lot of content in other places.

[A]

So yeah, I can't make.

[C]

Exactly. So we've gotta, we've got to try and.

You know, at least reset the router come back on. While I'm resetting the router, Lewis can freaking check to set the camera settings through stream yard and make sure that the compression rate is set.

[A]

Does he know how to do that?

[C]

I mean there is. I could send him the thing to do it so.

All right, all right, all right everybody.

[A]

We are going to end. We will have the new link up our where Our goal is 12:30 be back on with part two of this episode.

If it's just me raging in here, breaking everything with a sledgehammer, that means everybody was fired or quit and I'm done with this show.

[C]

It's not gonna happen.

[A]

So go ahead and end the stream. We'll be back at 12:30, guys.

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We're in 1080p.

[B]

Are we clear?

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I don't know. What? Okay, we're looking at YouTube. We look.

[C]

I'm coming in on it.

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Mike, you look like you're in slow motion.

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No, we're good.

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[A]

We did it. We're back.

[B]

Yeah, I think we fixed it. Yeah, if it doesn't work, it's my fault.

[A]

You know what is weird is that when we uploaded the Israeli video on YouTube which was a snippet of our live. It was live for two hours and.

[B]

It said no views but it had six comments.

[A]

Yeah, that's pretty crazy.

[B]

That's weird.

[A]

It's weird. Weird.

[C]

Yeah. It's the ops. It's the Ops. That.

[B]

How are we looking? Anybody?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I'm watching it right now. That's how I. I'm. I'm monitoring. In real time, dude.

[B]

I'll tell them what happened. What I believe happened was everything on Earth in that computer was running through Google, and Google was taking up 8 gigabytes of data space, which was 50 of that computer's processing power. Just for Google. We changed to a different browser. Close everything out, and I believe we're never going to have another problem.

[C]

Don't say that, Mike. You're gonna.

[B]

I believe. I believe in. Tyler will be mad. He'll threaten to fire us all.

[C]

But, look, I mean, don't. Don't eat apricots on a tank. Don't eat the charms, and don't say we're good.

[B]

We're good until we're not.

[C]

Yeah. People are like the head of Google's.

[A]

Who.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Streaming edges. Microsoft.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now we're gonna all get the jab. We don't have it yet.

[C]

We're gonna do it.

[B]

We're gonna do it live. Okay?

[C]

So. Goodness.

[B]

And we're gonna fix it for Night Shift, because Night Shift is having similar problems. I think it's the same issue. The computer was just running the Google.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Too much data going through one spot.

[A]

All right, we're back with half the people. But that's okay. It's only the half that matter.

[B]

They'll come back.

[C]

We're gonna be. We're gonna be fine. Don't worry about it. So. All right, let's see. What do we got on the agenda? I know you guys are doing a bunch. Okay, do we want to talk about any of the current events, or do we want to go straight into it?

[A]

Let's. Let's kick off with some current events. We did the jack shooting. I'm liking this new. You've got us all this new.

[C]

I know. Intrigued. Yeah. Okay, Lewis, if you'll go over to your email that I sent you.

There are two different pictures of ships. I need you to bring the gray one up.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Did you not.

[B]

I forgot about it.

[C]

What?

[B]

No, I wanted to. I want to surprise you.

[C]

Surprise me? Yeah. Oh, God. What did I do? No, no, I didn't steal anything, I swear. Well, no, I did steal cigars. I tried to show you all the cigars.

[B]

I don't like them.

[C]

All right, so you got that ship. That is a ship that just transited the Straits of Taiwan. Now, normally, ships that are not ours. It's not ours. You're going to be really shocked when I tell you who is on our side.

[A]

Israel.

[C]

Nope. Vietnam.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

We love you long time.

[C]

Yeah. Vietnam. And so this was passed out on Taiwan Times.

[A]

So they're. They're past rice patties and. Yeah.

[B]

They got a boat.

[C]

Yeah. Well, see, I. I think that once, you know, a good quarter of your population gets turned into crispy bacon by napalm, you decide like, hey, maybe not fighting the US Is a great idea. Maybe let's not do that.

[A]

I mean, have we been working with them for so years to build that ship?

[C]

It really. No, actually, the Koreans built it.

[A]

It. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. So one of the great things about this. Now here's the thing.

[A]

We blow up us with our boat.

[B]

I don't think you can do that.

[C]

We're trying to get on the Internet.

[A]

Coming to us right now.

[C]

So China, a lot of people don't know this. The next war that Vietnam was involved in after we left Vietnam was with China. They don't like China.

[A]

I. Yeah, China's not liked by a lot of people.

[C]

China ain't liked by a lot of people. Okay. So I'm not even going to try to butcher the pronunciation of that ship's name, but it's Vietnamese frigate ship thing. Can I try? No.

[B]

No.

So now the funniest comment on what the ship's name in the comments. We'll send them a cop bill shirt.

[A]

Let's see.

[B]

We can't say. You guys say yes.

[C]

So.

First you got to understand that over 50% of the world freight and trade stuff goes right through the Straits of Taiwan. All right. That's obviously going to be the invasion corridor if Taiwan gets invaded by China. So that would be closed. Yeah. So one of the things that we do is the United States is. And the British do it and the, the Aussies do it is we just drive a ship through the Straits of Taiwan and basically are like, you. Well, now the Vietnamese are doing it. Now, they said it was because, hey, we're going to Qindao, China, and we're gonna go do a cultural thing where we, like, hang out. The US Navy does that. They'll ask these two. Everybody does that. They all go to Chendao. They all hang out with the Chinese navy. I. I can tell you for a fact, because I had a buddy of mine who was a sonar technician navy, that sometimes the stupid Chinese will be running the propellers on their submarines and American destroyers are just recording everything that they hear, so. Oh, yeah, because there's Chinese stupid.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

So is Taiwan bad?

[C]

No, Taiwan is On our side. We're actually on their side. So here's the short breakdown of China versus Taiwan. During World War II, there were two groups in China. There was the, the government of Chiang Kai Shek, who was being helped by us. If you ever watched a movie with John Wayne called the Flying Tigers? Nope. Okay, does anybody know what the Flying Tigers are? The Flying Tigers were American mercenaries that were, were sent over to fly fighter planes for China against the Japanese. Before we joined the war, we were the Amer. The US Was helping the Chinese fight the Japanese, but the Chinese were also fighting another group of people, Communists. The Communists eventually won and what was left of the Republic of China went to Taiwan. And China, the communists couldn't cross that short a body of water and do an invasion. So Taiwan still exists. We still help them. They, they're, they're armed to the teeth. And the Koreans, the Japanese, the Aussies, the New Zealanders, US have all said, hey, if you invade Taiwan, it's game on, bro.

[A]

We said that to who?

[C]

China.

[A]

China.

[C]

Okay. We've been telling them that for 40, 50 years.

[A]

Taiwan have those boats too?

[C]

They have some ships, yes.

[A]

Because that's how they get our toys to us.

[C]

Yes, yes.

So that's a, that's actually a Vietnamese frigate.

[A]

So what's the definition of a frigate?

[C]

So a frigate is.

[A]

It was a level on Golden Eye.

[C]

Yeah. So a frigate is a, a, the smallest capital ship that's a, you know, big, big ship. It's not like a, a patrol craft or something like that. It can a, it can go out, it can operate on its own. It can sustain itself for a long period of time. So it's got some pretty significant firepower. Usually. Our frigates had guided missiles so they could fire, you know, surface air missiles and things like that as well as, as rocks and all kinds of other cool stuff. The ship words I've never heard.

[B]

What, until today, I've just never heard of.

[A]

Rocks.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Anti submarine rockets. It's basically, it's basically a torpedo with a rocket motor on it that we fire out and then it goes like 50 miles and then it drops a torpedo in the water to kill a submarine.

[A]

Okay, so Vietnam is our friend now. Yeah.

[C]

It's crazy, right?

[A]

Like publicly or we have, do you think we've always been government friends.

[C]

So they.

We gotta have the Fortunate song.

[A]

But on that frigate, that's the only song they have.

[C]

We use this song now to take this. You dirty filthy capitalists.

So.

[A]

But we just need them more.

[C]

They're out there, we're still got M60s just.

But we, we started changing relationships with them in the 80s under Reagan because Reagan was like, I don't know why we're enemies. We should be friends. You guys hate China, we hate China. Let's. Let's be buddies. It started out with that before the war. Well, actually what's, what's ironic about that is if you want to put up. Put on your tinfoil hats, boys.

[A]

We don't need to now. Oh, I'm. I'm removing anything about tinfoil hats. Apparently it's all true. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

Does Israel have anything to do with the Vietnam War?

Are the people in Israel?

[C]

Technically, no, but we had some major incidents with Israel and.

[A]

Oh, remember the USS Liberty?

[C]

Yeah, because I got that in the comments like 15 times.

[A]

Yeah, we did a. Anti Hero had USS Liberty survivors on our show and I, we, and me and Brent had never heard of that story. It's the most well hidden public story I've ever not heard of.

[C]

Yeah, dude. I mean, people know more about the Korean, those North Koreans doing that to one of our ships than they do about the, the Israelis. It was probably a false flag. That's my opinion.

[B]

Six million stories before that one.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, Clint says working with Jimmy will raise your. Hey, those of you getting ready to join the military, I will help you with your asphalt and we can pick.

[B]

You up in the gov. We'll get you to the recruiter.

[C]

So. Yeah, so Israel had nothing to do with that. It was actually more of the. The military industrial complex, which, I mean, you can trace back to certain people. But the, the. It was very likely that one of the big problems with Vietnam was that John F. Kennedy wanted no freaking part of it. And that was one of the reasons killed. That is one of the reasons why somebody had him killed, that is for sure. But I mean, you know, some people say it was the mafia, some people.

[A]

Say I'm gonna make it sure that says Israel did it. Because no matter what you're talking about.

[C]

I mean, unfortunately, man, you go deep enough down that hole, it's like, here's Israel. And let's be real clear, we're talking about the nation state of. I mean, do you want me to roll into. Do you want me to roll into it now?

[A]

Roll into it, dude.

[C]

All right, first let me pull up my notes here. Good God in heaven. All right, foreign. Let's start with what is Israel now, ostensibly, some of you guys have, you know, cracked open your Bibles and, and read some of it, Right? I'm with you, obviously, I'm.

[A]

No, it's. It's fair to say that.

[B]

Yes, God's chosen people.

[C]

That's right. That's.

[B]

They are.

[C]

That's. So it's a. What did you. What was the last word you said?

[B]

People.

[C]

Is it a land mass?

[B]

People?

[C]

It's a people.

[B]

It's a person.

[C]

Israel in the Bible is always referred to the people group.

[B]

God's chosen.

[C]

God's got those who struggle with God, those who reign with God, all of that.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Israel is not a place. There is the promised land of Canaan, or Canaan, if you. Depending on how much phlegm you got in the back of your throat, which not for much for me today. That is the promised land that was taken by Joshua. It was always called Canaan. It was never called Israel. The people are Israel. It's a group of people. How many tribes are in Israel?

[A]

Give me. I know this because you told me out back.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

12, maybe 13.

[C]

12, 13 if you count the Levites who were not given a land grant.

[A]

Can you give me a good analogy of how it, like how we. We associate Israel as a place growing up like Israel? Oh, it's a physical location. No, it's not. You're saying it's a group of people. What's a good analogy that we. Like, what would be a group of people that we call. Like.

[C]

I mean, so, like, here's an example. Like, so when In World War II we fought Germany, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But the, the, the guys that ran the army didn't call themselves Germans. They called themselves Prussians. Right. If you read your blue book, when you were in the army, you know about Baron von Steuben who trained the American army at Valley Forge, he was a Prussian guy.

[A]

So they referred to themselves as Prussians.

[C]

Yeah, that aristocracy. It's a, It's a region where they came from. That's their kind of thing. So when we're talking about the land mass of is that is Israel on a map, that has absolutely nothing to do with what's in your Bible. You need to just go ahead and delete that. So when you read Israel, you need to understand that it is the.

[A]

That's a chapter of the Bible.

[C]

It is in all over the Bible. Read it from beginning to end it. Whenever Israel is brought up, it's always talking about the people of Israel. The people of Israel. Right. There were 12 tribes, right. So specifically the tribe of Judah or the Yahudim, which is where we get Jews. They are one tribe. There are 12, 13. Now when the guy who was named Israel, also named Jacob or Yaakov, if depending on how much Fleming got back of your throat. Jacob was a guy who wrestled with God.

[B]

Right.

[C]

We know that story. It's in Genesis. He wrestles with God for an entire night. And finally God blows his hip out and he walks with a limp for the rest of his life. And God says, I'm going to rename you Israel. You're gonna have many sons.

[A]

Okay, so Israel started off as a person.

[C]

Yeah. It was named after Jacob, became Israel. That was just like Jesus renamed some of his disciples. God renamed Jacob, made him Israel. And he had, you know, had all these sons, and he gave each one of them a blessing. The tribe of Judah was given the kingship. That was their job. So all of the tribe of Judah had the kingship. That's where David comes from. That's where Christ comes from. That's where Saul comes from. All of these guys, the tribe of Levi was given the priesthood. That's why they didn't get a land grant. They're the priests.

[A]

They.

[C]

They don't need to be tied to the land. They're doing priest stuff. So if we're going to talk about God's chosen people, it's not one tribe, it's many. Right? I mean, we've established that. Have I. Okay. I want to make sure I'm tracking because I can go really fast sometimes and I don't want to.

[A]

You're good.

[C]

What's up, Commons? I can't read them. I'm. Yeah, I'm. I'm in my notes right now. So the Jews of today. Let's. Let's not get it twisted. The Jews of today are. Are the seed of Abraham, but they are not the one that we should be looking for. And if you want to go get a reference in your Bible, I recommend you go read Revelations 3.

[A]

9.

[C]

Those they. That say they are the Yahoo. Deen. But they are not. That's in Revelations 3. 9. So if you're a Christian and you have read that part of the Bible, then you can already know where this is going. Am I. Am I making sense?

[A]

Let's say, like Mike's a. Doesn't know what you're saying.

[C]

Mike is not. Mike fixed the problem. Let's start disparity.

Oh, I'm sorry, bro.

[B]

I can fix the problem.

[A]

So if my statistics.

[C]

Statistics, statistics. So what. What's your question, sir?

[B]

To keep going is what he was saying.

[A]

Yeah. Mike we didn't understand.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay. So if Mike doesn't understand or if somebody doesn't understand. In Revelations 3. 9, it specifically talks about those that say they are the. The. The chosen people of Israel, but they are not. They are given some pretty significant judgment. Okay, so there's your first one, right? So when you hear your pastor talk from the pulpit about how the Jews are God's chosen people.

[A]

No, you're not.

[C]

No, you're not, Sergeant.

[B]

I'm not, Sergeant.

[C]

So if you look.

[B]

So that's a misstatement. That is that.

[C]

That is a.

[B]

Only Jews or Israel are the God's chosen people.

[C]

That's correct. Okay, so here's what you need to do again. If you are a believer in Christ, meaning you believe that Christ was the Messiah and you want to go get into this further, go to Ephesians 2, we. But at first you were set apart from God and you didn't know sin, Right? That's in Ephesians.

And then because of. And this is the big one, you were set apart from God and the covenants, there are several, Right. We were not part of that. But because of our belief in Christ, we are grafted into the people group of Israel, God's chosen people. Okay? That's where the covenant is. So that's the part grafted into the tree of life. Right.

I'm trying to go through my notes here, and I'm like sitting way back. I need like bifold knuckles or something. I'm getting old.

[B]

Still waiting for Jimmy to tell us how Jesus went down range.

[A]

Jesus was a sniper.

[B]

He's a sniper.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But this is interesting because you're never. Nobody on mainstream media, nobody says anything close to this. The argument is, Israel are God's chosen people.

[A]

Why are we pressured? So I'm coming in blind, right? Why are we pressured to be allies both religiously and economically with Israel, Economically and religious with Jewish people?

[C]

So this started in the. Once the nation state of Israel that we call Israel. That is not. The Bible is land. The land. They took a piece of the promised land, they called it Israel. They made a flag and they said, okay, we're. We're a country now.

[A]

Didn't they buy it?

[C]

No, no. Actually, they had a war for it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I mean, and this is where, believe it or not, I kind of. I'm kind of okay with the nation state of Israel on this one. They. Britain, after World War II pulled out. They were like, hey, peace, we're out. We don't have the money to deal with this anymore. You guys sort this out amongst yourselves. There were Palestinians that lived there. There were other Muslims that Lived there. And there were a large contingent of Jews who had either survived the holocaust or had fled from it and went back to the Holy Land. Let's. Before we do that, which is a really great thing to talk about, you asked a question about you, or you said something about Zionism. Right?

[A]

I. I've had Dominic Izzo explain to me Zionism, and I've already kind of forgot. Okay.

[C]

All you need to know is a Zionist is someone who wants a Jewish homeland for the Jewish people.

[A]

Is that on paper what they want?

[C]

That's. Now, they may say a bunch of other stuff, but a Zionist is somebody who wants a Jewish homeland in the promised land of Canaan for the Jewish people. That's what they want. Not for anybody else, just for the Jewish people. That means Christians, you ain't included. That means Muslims, you ain't included. Hindus, definitely not included. Like, just doesn't mean you're not welcome there. It means that that's not who they want it for. They want it for the Jews, which are one tribe of many of 1213, if you can't believe it. So now that we've established that, I know. Here you are.

[A]

Oh, you're good, man.

[C]

Where was I before I got sick?

[A]

What's that guy on social media?

[C]

So when.

So that's that meme that.

God damn, we're getting. We're gonna get trashed. So after World War II and Britain left, the Jews were there, the Palestinians were there. There were other Arab countries there. And the Jews basically got to the flagpole first, raised the flag and said, we're Israel now. And the other Muslim countries, that would be Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, all of those, Saudi Arabia, all of them came together and said, we're gonna crush you.

[A]

We're gonna.

[C]

We're gonna beat the.

[A]

Out of you.

[C]

And Palestinians, get out of that place. We're gonna freaking crush these guys. It's going to be a war zone. When it's done, we'll give you the land back. Only the Muslims did not win. They lost. So Israel became a nation state they didn't yet have Jerusalem.

[A]

Know what I think is. Know what I think is what gets people, like, subconsciously on Israel's side all the time is the fact that they got to pick between Israel and Palestine.

[B]

I was absolutely zoned out thinking that exact thing.

[C]

You're.

[B]

You're stuck between two very violent groups of people.

[A]

I saw somebody on the Internet yesterday saying, like, it was a real. But they were like, can I just not like either one of them?

[B]

Yeah.

You'Re Told you have to pick one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And.

[A]

And everybody Inherently, the last 20 some years, Muslims and Islam and they're terrorists. They're bad, right? Yeah.

[B]

Because I mean, obviously over there, not here.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

There's bad things happening from both sides. Children are dying. And it's like, well, we're gonna pick this one because. And with that, we're gonna highlight what these guys do, but we're not gonna highlight what these guys.

[A]

The propaganda is crazy because for the last five years, I always, I would, I would hear, I would hear the genocide that Israel's doing to the Palestinian people, and I would go, that's just liberal nonsense. And now I'm like, is that a thing?

[D]

And if.

[B]

And I'm. Yes, that's what I'm saying. And it. Obviously it is or something. But then the people that support just Palestine don't realize that if you go over there as a gay female with pink, they'll cut your head off.

[A]

They're terrorists. They are.

[C]

So it's like they're run by Hamas.

[B]

Yeah, correct.

[C]

So it's like backed by Iran.

[B]

But, but we got people marching to the United States, so.

[A]

So I think the consensus is at the table is that if we had to support one, we would support Israel. But we don't have to support Israel.

[C]

We don't.

[A]

And we are still.

[C]

And, and, and again, I got no problems.

I got no problems with the nation state of Israel doing things to defend itself and looking out for its own interests. The problem becomes when it starts to interfere with the things that are going on within the United States specifically. And this is where took a, Took a rabbit hole. But we're coming back to it. Why is it coming from the pulpit that we have to support Israel? Yeah, that's a great question.

[A]

Well, also, what's a pulpit?

[C]

That would be where the pastor talks from.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But.

[A]

So it's like they're.

[B]

We made a real.

[C]

That's a little destiny.

[B]

We made a reel that said something about Israel and it had zero views for days.

[A]

No, it wasn't a real. It was a YouTube.

[B]

YouTube clip. Zero views for two hours. People sending it to us that. I just watched this, somebody else commenting on it, and it said zero. I mean, that's just, it's weird.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think we're not big enough to ever have to worry about.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

I think it just gets throttled by the algorithm for a little while. Personally, I, I.

[A]

Because, I mean, it's crazy, dude. When people say, like, I will say this, dude. Money and the social Media sphere, which is. And the Internet and all that stuff and everything. There's certain people in the world you can't piss off. Yeah.

[B]

I'll try to navigate this without trying to. I can't get canceled, so it doesn't really matter. But another thing is we are told to highlight one very significant incident of.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Mass murder.

[C]

Right.

[B]

We're told to.

[C]

That's the one.

[A]

We do it, dude.

[B]

That's the one.

[A]

We have to talk the Holocaust.

[B]

We have. We're told, do it. It's going on right now. Yeah, it's been going on. How many people did Stalin killed?

[A]

Over 10 million.

[C]

He's the biggest mass murderer in history.

[B]

Especially if the United States supported him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In World War II.

[C]

That's correct.

[B]

And we're not. Nobody talks about that.

[A]

No.

[B]

Nobody says, like, what about this guy?

[A]

And then. And then. And then he. And then he represented what we went to war with next, which was Communism.

[C]

Right. Which.

[A]

Which was a huge joke.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If you don't go.

[A]

That's like me saying back in the 60s and 70s, telling people that they had to worry about communism taking over the world and coming in. Is that. That's like me saying, mike, you got to worry about these headphones coming alive and killing you.

[C]

So I'm like, I got.

[A]

We gotta stop.

[B]

And you're like, God damn, the headphones are gonna go live and kill me. Stalin killed Christians.

[C]

He killed a shitload.

[B]

What kind of nation are we?

[C]

We're a Christian nation.

[B]

And we gave money to a guy and supported him in World War II.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

That killed the people of the religion that the United States was found.

[C]

That's why, you know, when we talked about World War II last week and, you know, everybody's told like, well, we went to World War II because Hitler was bad.

[A]

We didn't give a.

[B]

That's what you're told in school. That's what you're told as a kid.

[C]

Yeah, I grew up.

[B]

I had no idea. Obviously, AI is translating speeches now, and there's all kinds of. In the history stuff, but when I was in school. You were told that's, That's. I didn't know. Unless you really studied as a young kid, you were told that's why we went to World War II.

[C]

Yeah. And it's. It's completely untrue. It's. It's. It's not that it's untrue. That's. That's kind of a half lie. The war was about the same thing that it's always been. About land and resources. That's what it's always about. So trying to. To put an idealistic spin on it. Now we can all agree that what Ja. Japan and. And Germany were doing, they had to be stopped. Yes, we. They had to be stopped.

[B]

Would you compare that to there's weapons of mass destruction there?

[C]

I. Absolutely.

[B]

We were told this is why we have to go.

[C]

Yeah, this. This was really about. This is the lie to. In like at the end, like we're. We won. So now we're going to tell the story.

[B]

And you can never argue about. Against saving people.

[C]

No.

[B]

If we go help people not get murdered or we stop.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, what did we have to stop about Germany and in Japan, what was. So what did we have to stop?

[C]

Okay, Pearl Harbor.

[A]

Well, he explained why Pearl War.

[C]

So the, the reason why the embargo was happening in Japan and I know we're coming off the subject or we're coming back, guys. I promise. The reason why the embargo happened in Japan was because they were slaughtering their way across the Pacific, specifically in China, and they were doing some really, really terrible. Okay, so to. To basically go. Because we knew our oil and this is how it's going to tie in. I'm giving you oil. You're buying it from me. You're taking that oil and putting it into fighter planes that are bombing cities. You're putting it into tanks that are literally running over people. You're using it to supply your.

[A]

Your.

[C]

Your soldiers on the ground in China who are raping and murdering through Manchuria, which they renamed Manchukuo. I mean, it, it's terrible. You never hear about that in the history books. It's way worse than anything the Nazis ever did. It's.

[A]

Well, I asked you, you said.

[C]

Right. So we basically said, hey, if you don't stop what you're doing, we're not going to give you any more oil because we don't want our. That the.

[A]

I asked you, you said that they were running around cutting off the heads of Chinese people. And I said, is that documented? And you said, well documented.

[C]

Very well documented. I mean, you can go read the book Flags of Our Fathers and another one by Stephen Ambrose or Son, which escapes me. It might have been the Pacific.

But specifically Flags of Our Fathers, where it talks about the.

Bastardization of Bushido, which is the warrior code of Japan, and how it was used for propaganda to fuel a war machine. And that was one of the things that they were doing. I mean, that's not even the worst thing that they were Doing. That's just one thing. They were rounding up women in Manchuria and China, and basically they called them comfort women. And in Korea, there's actually a statue in Korea for these comfort women who were basically used as pros. They weren't even prostitutes. They were sex slaves for the Japanese army. That happened.

[A]

I mean, that goes with the sign on bonus. Yeah. Or retention. We got to worry about that.

[C]

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it was bad. So all we basically said the United States was, we're done selling you oil, bro. You're done. We're not giving you any more. It's an embargo.

[A]

And you said that they wouldn't last more than six months. So they had to make a move. They had to make so that they could get their oil. They had to destroy our Western fleet, our Western capabilities.

[C]

So if you look at the map, right, you got Japan, you got Okinawa, you got Taiwan, China, and then you have the Philippines right here, and then all the oils over here. The Philippines is basically like a knife cutting through it.

[A]

Yeah. But I guess why did we. Why didn't we just kick the living out of Japan and leave Europe alone? Well, number one, I feel like I'm my son asking me questions.

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's a.

[A]

Why did we get involved?

[C]

It's a great question. Number one.

German. Hitler simplified our strategic problem for us. He declared war on us. He declared war on the United States five days after the Japanese attack Pro Harbor.

[A]

Why do you do that?

[C]

He was influenced by his navy, who were running their submarines out there in the Atlantic. And they're like, hey, America's involved in this war whether we want to or not. Whether they want to say that they are or not. They are given weapons to Russia. They're giving weapons and gas, food. Oh, yeah, okay. To England. We are in a war with those guys. We can sink all.

[A]

Why were we. Why were we given. Okay, Mike, I need your help so you can. Because my brain doesn't understand. We. You said this. We were giving guns and supplies to Russia while Stalin killed tens of millions of people.

[B]

Money.

[A]

And money. Why were we doing that?

[C]

Why were we giving them money?

[A]

Yeah, money. Guns, supplies.

[C]

Oh, because they were fighting in a war, and they were technically like our friends.

[A]

But why. Why were they our friends when Stalin was killing tens of millions of people?

[C]

It's a great question.

[B]

Yeah, they were. What they raised in what I was watching was nobody will. Tucker Carlson brought it up.

[C]

Yeah, Tucker Carlson did.

[B]

I don't understand why. Why do we just.

[A]

Just give like we were already on their side. There was no looking at Europe and going, hold on a minute.

[C]

Minute.

[A]

We, as soon as we got hit, it was like, all right, well, we're on Russia's side. We have to be. We're already. We've been giving them. Unless we want to go fight against our own guns.

[C]

Yeah, pretty much. Russia was not getting as much during Lind lease before the attack on Pearl harbor. They were getting some. By the end of the war, they had more Studebaker trucks than we did. We had given them so many.

[B]

Well, and there's always a. Like, you'll never going to get the real reason why we do pretty much anything. Yeah, I mean, that's the, the, the. That's the tinfoil hat. I mean, reason for everything. Ally. Yeah. There's a reason for every time we get involved in something. But it's. This guy was killing 10 million people. This guy allegedly killed this many people. Where do you just. Yeah, right back to the same question. Who do you fight with?

[A]

Let me hit you with holocaust. So, I mean, let me. If you've heard these two, if you've heard these, there's no way you can verify as Jimmy Arnett. I can't verify the substitute. But if you've heard this, you heard, You've heard that the numbers were as low as less than a quarter million.

[C]

That's what I've heard.

[A]

Okay. You've heard that there's no way that they use the gas they said they use because there would still be residue all over those sites today.

[C]

And I've heard that as well.

[A]

It also would have been the most stupid financial decision for them to use that gas because it was the most expensive way to in theory kill people.

[C]

Right. That is what I have heard. Yes.

[A]

And here's where we get crazy. The ones that died were, because this is what I heard, and it could be wrong, is that the U. S. Destroyed the logistical lines to get those camps, the resources.

[C]

It was a major target of allied bombing. That is correct.

[A]

So therefore.

[B]

And it goes further.

[A]

Germany's like that.

[B]

That. And this is what I've seen on the Internet. And it could go both ways. We could be. I'm not, I'm not taking a stance on it, but that.

There were things installed after these.

[A]

Oh, it gets better.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because Hollywood was involved, got involved and Hollywood were erected on buildings that didn't exist.

[A]

They were already used to building sets for movies in America.

[B]

Yeah. And there's videos that show. And again, so all could be skewed, but videos Showing the inside of some of these camps where church services were allowed to be held. There were swimming pools. There was a lot of activities going on. And as the supplies were unable to be.

Received in human nature, would you not go? Well, we're not. We're the.

[C]

We're in charge.

[B]

I'm not gonna die. Yeah, like, I'm gonna eat. And they're blowing everything up. There's not enough food for everybody. It's like, am I gonna feed everybody else?

[A]

So we run to the point. Okay, now they have. That sucks. But. Well, then they shouldn't have put the Jewish people in the concentration camps. And I feel like as a society were right there. Whereas before what we just talked about, you could not talk about. You were considered a holocaust denier and you were shamed and shunned from society. But we've moved conversation all the way up to. This did happen. All these things did happen. But that sucks that there were Jewish people held in these concentrations camp. And the. In Germany should not have done that. And then it gets taboo from there. And hopefully in five to 10 years people can openly talk about why were there so many people in concentration camps in Germany at that time?

[C]

Okay, look, I'll put my. I mean, just remember, we are getting sued. So this is probably going to end up. It's probably going to end up in Rob o' Neill's freaking jack off file.

[B]

I mean.

[C]

No, I. I got it. I'm. I'm not shying away from this one.

[A]

Who's. Who. All right, who's. Yeah, the bot. It's a bot. What's a bot mean? And they're not human on the other side.

[C]

At the very least, it's not somebody worth talking about. It's. Again, it's like one picture, no face. You know, those people. I. I can go way in depth on things. I. I don't have. This is not the medium for that. If you want to go deeper, there'll be a time and a place for that.

[B]

People are going pretty deep at this point on the Internet. It's. It's kind of.

[A]

Yeah, you can't stop it.

[B]

I know.

[C]

So, you know, I mean, CC's right. God damn it, CC, look, the Jews had. And. And remember, who are the Jews? Right? They're one tribe of 12. Okay. They had the. Let me see. Let me paint you a picture. You've just come out of a really terrible war.

[A]

You've.

[C]

The. The inflation is going through the roof. Am I hearing things? Yeah.

[A]

What is that?

[C]

Okay. Inflation's going through the Roof. We've lost our national product.

[B]

Keep telling us to get the ring. Camera.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe somebody's coming through the lobby.

[C]

Oh, if we already just go playing flashbang.

The economic institutions were destroyed.

[A]

The.

[C]

A lot of the things that made people proud to be German were gone.

[A]

Now German. Germany was at like an all time low. Unemployment.

[C]

Yes. They.

[A]

Everybody was in debt due to the. This new. This new thing that had been introduced into society called debt. And.

Credit. Loans and credit and all that. That stuff.

[B]

And.

[C]

And another part of it was the, The Weimar Treaty. Right. So the. Was it Weimar? Oh, man, I'm. I'll have to go through that. There was basically a treaty at the end of World War I that basically said Germany owes the world a bunch of money because you started the war.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All right. So.

There was a guy who was very popular. He liked to paint. Yeah, paint. Who basically said, the world. Those people. We didn't lose the war. We got stabbed in the back. We're gonna make Germany great again. We're gonna do all of this stuff to move the country back to its roots, to the things that we know that made it great. And that includes reinstituting the draft. We're going to go ahead and make a bigger army. We're going to make a bigger air force.

[A]

Where they get the money to do all this.

[C]

That is a very interesting question.

[A]

I don't expect you to know these answers. I. I don't know. So I figured I'd toss it around.

[C]

So there was a.

[D]

Borrow it.

[C]

Versailles. Thank you very much. I, I knew it was something like that. It was the Weimar Republic that was in charge during this. Thank you for that. So the. Oh, God, that's distracting. No, no, no. So some. I mean.

Hitler did a lot of things, including like, hey, we're gonna make this car. It's going to be the people's car. We're going to call it the Volkswagen. And we've. We're going to go ahead and institute this big.

You know, system of. Of commuter travel called the Autobahn, which.

[A]

Is basically a highway that created the highways.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And.

[C]

And so he started doing all these public works things. He. He got the factories back going. He got the. He got the economy back going. He had some really brilliant guys, but one of the things that he did do was go, hey, there's some people that are in power right now that have a vested interest in keeping everybody down.

[A]

What power did they have?

[C]

Economic, mostly.

[A]

Okay, economic. They weren't in, like, political power in Germany. No, no. They.

[C]

They had a Lot of economic power, but if you have economic power, you could be pretty much wielding anything else.

[A]

Hey, my thing is obviously, to. You can't just. If your country's in the. Financially. You can't just do all this with no money. I'm assuming they borrowed money to do this, and I'm curious if they borrowed it from.

[C]

Well, no, they. They took a lot of it. I mean, let's. Let's not kid ourselves here. There's not a good guy. He's a. He's, you know, Putin 1.0. Okay? And he's a nefarious Bond level villain.

[B]

Don't.

[C]

Don't get yourself. He's a bad guy, but he went into Poland, right? That's how the war started. He went into Poland with the help of the Russians. They went into Poland together. They were on the same team. They took over Poland. They took back Danzig and a bunch of other places and reunified Germany.

[A]

Wait, Dan's is an actual place?

[C]

Yes, it is. It's not just a band, mother. It's not just a metal band. All right? And so that was part of where they got the money from. They also instituted a lot of, like, forced labor. Like, you're gonna work, but we ain't gonna pay you.

[A]

Who?

[C]

Oh, Germany.

[A]

On who?

[C]

The polls.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, like, the polls. So.

[A]

So the.

[B]

There was a lot of bad things that happened.

[C]

Oh, yeah, tons of bad.

[B]

Maybe some of the numbers were inflated.

[C]

Yes. I. You know, my biggest question. This is my question about it, and this is what I ask a lot of those people is the guy that ran Buchenwald liquidation camp. He testified at Nuremberg that he killed 1.2 million. I mean, just cold is not. Gold is cold as can be.

[A]

Just. Oh, so that's a point of.

[B]

But, yeah, even then, how can you.

[A]

I mean, how could one guy do that?

[B]

Would he write in a pad?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See, they don't even keep accurate data now. And it's 2025.

[C]

See, but, you know, the Germans. The Germans are like a meme of, like, efficiency and paperwork.

[B]

So, I mean, just like, I arrested 1.2 million people. Can you verify?

[A]

Can you. Yeah, maybe they trashed all the analytics.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, or. Or want to be. The. The thing that. The thing that I would go at is, well, you weren't there for every one of those. I mean, you're ostensibly running the camp, so you're getting reports just like anybody else at the top of a. Of a silo. You know, that is the argument that I have is that, like, first of all, you'll never find a piece of paper that's. That Hitler signed that says kill all the Jews. It. It's not there. There's a. There's a bounty right now in the historical community. It's $2 million if you can find a piece of paper signed by Hitler authorizing the Holocaust.

[B]

And then on top of that, obviously, with AI Translation. I don't. I have not seen a video where he says that.

[C]

No, he wanted them gone.

[B]

He's.

[C]

Get the.

[B]

He explains a lot of reasons why he wanted them gone, but I don't know that he ever. He never said, I'm gonna kill them all. Not that he couldn't have done it. I'm just saying. He doesn't say that. But when you see those adamant speeches and adamant. And you have no idea what he's saying. I'm scared. I'm like, damn, that dude wants to kill me. Like, it sounds. It looks really bad.

[A]

Yeah, it does. Well, because there's their culture and stuff and their vocabulary.

That sounds scary.

[B]

It's like Vietnamese. Not even down to German.

[C]

Next, he's gonna come in with his eyes taped like this.

[B]

Next time, who does Tyler like. That's what I have to find out. Is Tyler like, anybody on Earth? Yeah.

[C]

I mean, and. And, you know.

[B]

You know, the.

[C]

The other one, too. I mean, and. And Clint. That's a great point. One of the.

[B]

One of the.

[C]

You see a lot of Germans with eye patches and scars on their face. That was a cultural thing because dueling with swords was a thing for the aristocracy, the Prussians, the military elite, to do. And if you had a scar on your face kind of showed you were a badass. You were a man. So a lot of these guys look like. Like that guy looks evil as.

[B]

Like another.

[D]

That's popular.

[C]

Scorsani.

[B]

That's popular at the firehouse, too. Duel with their swords.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Reagan's a sword.

[C]

Sword dueler. Oh, my God.

[B]

All right, I think we beat that.

[C]

So hold on.

[A]

Wait.

[B]

Death, right?

[A]

CC Said we got our rocket program from them, so. Couldn't have been that bad. I. E. Father of NASA.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

What?

[C]

All of the. The guys that built the rockets, the intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the ones that took us to the moon. Mike, we're all Germans.

[A]

Child was arrested.

[B]

Rothschild.

[C]

Yeah.

I can't.

[A]

I could go into that, too. I just.

[C]

I mean, we haven't even really gone in. I mean, I'm not even done with the juice.

[A]

Well, yeah, because I. I love and respect. We gotta just save it because he's trying to keep it Israel based and religious based. And I'm just sitting here going, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

[B]

I think the thing is it you should talk about things. And yeah, for a long time there was things you just couldn't talk about. Kind of like the crime statistics in the, in the shooting video. Like absolutely tough things.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

It's like, can't say that.

[A]

Maybe we should be the guys that say.

[C]

Almost like we should be the anti heroes.

[A]

D.C. says Tyler say Heather's initials HH.

[C]

Oh, you idiot.

[B]

Yeah, that's as bad as watching your.

[C]

Yeah, somebody's gonna clip that, bro.

[A]

What? That camera right there.

[C]

That's a knife hand. Knife hand.

[A]

We're just having some fun.

[C]

We can't joke about the Nazis.

[A]

We can't joke. You know what's sad, dude? You know what's so sad is I obviously Mike knows this more than anything. My dream for years and it still is, but it's probably shot to get recognized and associated, affiliated and picked up possibly by Barstool Sports.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They have a veteran show who's the owner. And in my, in my opinion, the show's not very good. Yeah. It's not nearly what Anti hero was, is, and will be. So they don't have a reason about drinking Bros. No.

Barstool Sports. Dave Portnoy.

[C]

I know. No, no, no, I'm talking. What's the podcast?

[A]

Oh, it's called the. It's not drinking something Patriot. No, drinking brothers associated with something else. Unbound. Something like that. I mean, the people are nice and everything, but they just don't have a good solid show for first responders. Veteran. It's a subculture that's asleep. People, they don't have anybody.

[B]

No, he does.

[C]

He's pro.

[B]

I mean, definitely pro cop. Yeah.

Donated money to a lot of cops.

[C]

During COVID We're not on them at all.

[A]

No. Problem is, is that he, I, he does not like anti Semitic jokes. Like, does not tolerate it. He joke. He jokes about everything under the sun. Makes jokes, makes this, makes that. People have said Jew jokes in front of him or to him or he's.

[C]

Heard about it, so they crashed out. Yeah.

[A]

So.

[C]

Well, let, if, if we can just circle back to the Jews real quick.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

I got. I, I, I mean, dude, like, there's the horse. Yeah.

I, I do want to get. First of all, it, I know I talk a lot and I'm really sorry about that, but I really work hard on this stuff.

[A]

Like you're good, keep going.

[C]

I, I, I, I'm not gonna have.

[A]

You spend hours on something.

[C]

Oh yes. And I'm, I'm apologizing to the guys that are like, come on, Jimmy. Like, it's like, dude, if you really want to go deep on this as a Christian, you need to understand this. It's really important. I know I just cuss talking about God, but I again, I don't think God cares about that.

[A]

Hey, Jesus flipped tables, bro. He got mad too.

[C]

Yeah, dude, like I don't think God cares about the, the words that come out of my mouth when we're talking about, you know, taking his name in vain. We're talking about putting God's stamp of approval on our own. So you're basically screwing up his brand recognition. Is it, is the comments that bad? Is it that bad?

[B]

You're over here doing the Clint said paint, Jimmy.

[C]

Oh man. So you've got to understand this as a Christian man. One of the things that Jesus talks about regularly is beware the leaven of the Pharisees. It's you. And leaven in the Bible is used as a reputation for sin and false doctrine.

Remember the Jews, Judea was given the kingship, right? And Levi was given the role of the priesthood, okay, by Yaakov or the guy who God later named Israel. The Jews are not the priesthood. They don't have any right to talk about teaching, especially when it comes to Christianity in any way. It was not given to them. Their authority does not belong to them all the way back in their in the Torah. So they can just shut the up and we're going to pretty much end it there. But like when you start talking about the Jews and you say Jews and Israel in the same sentence, one is one tribe and the other is a people and it's not a place on the map in the Bible. And you need to understand that. And when you're a soft handed effeminate pastor who wears a quarter zip and tapes his little microphone to his toel, wears a little boom mic and talks to you about it, understand that back in the 1960s, that's exactly what Israel, the nation state wanted them to do because they needed to be tied as tightly as they could for the unite to the United States for their own survival. I have no problems with them trying to survive. But my sons don't have to die for it. And, and you cannot tell me as a Christian that I have to support the people that crucified Messiah.

[A]

Amen.

[C]

I'm done. We'll go deeper later if people want to.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, it's like I said in the last episode, we. There's just that everybody gets confused between Jewish people, the state of Israel, and Zionism.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

And they all do. It's like the circle polls that all overlap a little bit. They all overlap a little bit.

[C]

Yeah, that Venn diagram.

[A]

But what happens is, is that bad people and bad agents and bad actors hold an entire population hostage and say, you're anti Semitic, you're racist, if you say anything about this. And they grip them right in their arm and say, you can't say anything about Zionism, you can't say anything about Israel because you're being anti Semitic and you hate Jewish people saying, well, no.

[C]

It'S the same as what Mike just talked about.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

It's the exact same thing.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

That cook, my cook, he cooked earlier.

[A]

Man.

[C]

We gotta get. We gotta get like a bell to let somebody know we want to cook. So like, just get like the other.

[B]

Belt.

[A]

NBA Jam style. You're on fire.

[B]

Yeah, I cook a lot. I mean, again, I think the biggest thing is there should be. You should not be suppressed from talking about something.

[C]

No, you should not.

[B]

There's free speech and then there's, you know, because something hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's not allowed to be talked about. There's a lot of things we talk about that hurt, that we don't want to talk to anybody. But you should be able to talk about everything and be informed and to suppress that ability to do so and say, you just can't talk about this. Just like your mom's saying, don't go down that street. Well, eventually you're going to sneak down that street. I want to see what's down that street because they told me not to. So when you say you can't do something, it almost brings more curiosity. Why can't we? And that's where even say it's everything's accurate, everything we've been told. The fact that you're telling me I can't talk about it leads me to believe maybe it's not because you're telling me not to talk about it. Well, no, I just want to talk about it.

[A]

This whole thing right now is like that. Put it up. Put it on mic. Right there. Let me get this. Put it right there. This is Metal Company. It's better for you. It's healthier for you. You should always drink out of metal. No matter what metal or glass. We all know that next to them is plastic and Styrofoam company. That's really bad for you. It's not as good for you. However, Styrofoam and plastic company have billions and billions of dollars to tell you that you can't talk about how good metal company is. That's how, that's literally just how it works.

[B]

Yeah, Cigarettes, man, they spent billions of dollars.

[C]

So people, I mean, smoke, die. Look, you know what?

[A]

They're loud.

[C]

My, my. I, we at this point know how bad cigarettes are. I smoke. You smoke, Michael.

[A]

Smoke. What are you talking about, dude? I only smoke when I drink. And I don't drink anymore.

[C]

That's right. I, I apologize for. I, I slandered you. Please don't sue me. Prove it, Jimmy.

[B]

Prove it.

[C]

Guy. Hey, man, still waiting on you.

[A]

Oh, also you, Rob o'. Neill.

[C]

You, dude, that's for you. Clip this and jerk off.

[A]

Who's BB I don't know. Name drop BB I don't know who's.

[C]

Oh, oh, he's talking about Benjamin Netanyahu.

[A]

How's that?

[C]

That's his nickname is BB.

There isn't.

[B]

Supposed how long we cook him. They're doing good.

[C]

I mean, we are doing good.

[B]

I transition to something. Yeah, that word I tried to spell earlier.

[C]

Super, Super California. Super. An annuity.

[B]

There's a, there's a story. Trump is trying to change the whole retirement system for the United States where an employer would be required to contribute 12% of your salary into a account mandatory. So that way at the end of your life, when you're ready to retire, you have money. Seems like.

[C]

Don't we have that already in Social Security?

[B]

Yeah, it's doing really well. Right, but this would be employer separate. So Australia has this, this system. They are the 55th ranked country by population. They have the 4th best retirement system in the world based on this program right here. Can't touch it. It's mandatory. And it's. This where I was going with this is what do we all hear? Raise minimum wage. Make minimum wage better. What are you gonna do? You're gonna get more money, you're gonna spend more money, you're not gonna save it. Nobody's. Nobody's good. I'm not good at it.

[A]

I mean, that's not our job.

[B]

I know, but this system to me makes. Seems like it's a better solution to, you know what? You're dying and you got 1200amonth. Social Security is all you're gonna make. Or 1300. No, you got.

[A]

What's all this money, Mike? Do you think Trump just really cares?

[B]

No, I'm not saying he cares.

[A]

So the federal, the Federal Reserve sounded.

[B]

Like a really good idea because all the banks destroyed the West. All the banks that are owned by.

All the banks that are owned by or Trump's friends with, they're going to get that money and be able to reinvest that money. But I'm not saying. But that system seems to be a little bit more effective than what we're doing right now is when people get old, we have nowhere to put them. We're like, sorry, dude, you're like, you're homeless, whatever. It's mandatory. To me, it seems better than.

Than raising minimum wage over and over, which is a better voting point because if I tell you right now, you're going to get $25 an hour, $30 an hour right now, damn, I want it. But if I tell you, hey, when you're 70 and all that life has passed, you're going to be just fine. 70. I'm 22. I don't give a about 70. I want it now.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So this to me seems like a better idea for the longevity of people's lives, but none of it, you know, I'm guilty of it. Like, oh, I can easily see. I bought two scratch offs. I could easily.

[A]

Years ago, we had a mindset. A young adult felt safe. It did. Because of the debt stuff that our society is in right now. Everybody's in debt. It's. It, this isn't going to change anything. I don't think, I don't think that it's just going to make it harder. And guess what employers are going to do? They're going to find ways around it. They're gonna hire you at 38 hours a week instead of 40. Just like when they try to do health care is mandatory. Companies were like, yeah, cool, okay, we're just gonna crush their hours, make it harder on the employees, not give them what we're supposed to and walk around it.

[C]

Yeah. I mean.

There'S, there is a vested interest in keeping us subservient.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And, and look, financial says it all the time. You're going to live in the box, you're going to eat bugs and you're going to like it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, and, and that's, that's really where we're going. I mean, like, if you can look around, you can look around Orlando and see all these high rise apartment buildings that are going up, you can see it in Tampa, you can see it in St. Pete, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, the Ones I'm talking about, I'm looking at all of those and I'm like, the money that they're gonna make, they look great on the outside. They're built like, I can prove that because I work construction. Like, this is all about like control. My wife is like, let's go live in an apartment. I'm like, no, we don't own. In an apartment.

[A]

You don't even own your own house. They're doing the 50 year mortgages. I saw that. Tucker Carlson's very against it and Sean Ryan is very for it. They talked about it. Sean Ryan's like, this is the only chance this generation has at getting a home. And Tucker Carlson's like, you're never gonna own it.

[B]

Yeah, you're renting. You're red mean. Honestly, a mortgage is. You're just renting it from. Yeah, they can come get it from the paint.

[A]

You really don't releasing your house. You are, you are.

[B]

I mean, I bought my house in 2021. 30 year mortgage is 2051. I'm not gonna make that.

[A]

You'll sell it before or.

[B]

But that's not die. No. Yeah. So I'm saying that's what, 25 more years. I'm 49. I'll be lucky to see the end of that mortgage.

[C]

Yeah. So.

[B]

Really, do I own my house?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No.

[B]

Do I own it?

[C]

No, of course not. And I mean.

[B]

And the bank's gonna make you.

[C]

And the bank's gonna take it back if your kids don't grab it.

[B]

And even at a 2.75 interest rate, which I got in before the market went crazy, I'm still paying them 250, 000 in interest on the house. And you're not 180, whatever it is.

[C]

And, and let's be, let's be clear, Mike. When you're 90 years old and you finally kick the bucket, because you're gonna outlive me and Tyler, that's for damn sure. Right?

[B]

Steroids is bad. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

When, when that happens, you're, they're, they're. You're not even really worried about the house. The bank doesn't give a. About the house. They want the property.

[D]

Correct.

[C]

They want the property. They'll put another house on that. They'll make more money.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

You know.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I, I worked, I worked in construction. I watched. I did a lot of new builds. A lot. I saw a lot of old houses in, in and around Tampa Bay get torn down to build new ones. And I'll Give you the perfect example. I worked at a very, probably the most famous baseball player ever in the history of mankind.

[A]

Babe Ruth.

[C]

Nope. In recent memory. I can't say who because I had to sign an NDA on it. Oh, okay, okay. I, I built his house. And.

Tom Brady took that house over when he came to Tampa to play for the Buccaneers. And then they just tore it down. And in my lifetime I have built that house, watched two people live in it and, and get it get torn down.

[A]

Why did they tear it down? It's just not nothing it was compared.

[C]

To the property it was built to specs for a specific individual. He wanted it a certain style.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. The, the land is what they, the.

[C]

Land is what they care about. And that's. Our founding fathers wanted us to own land.

[B]

6, 7, 8% interest rate on a mortgage. You're paying double, you're paying double almost for your house.

[A]

Yeah, you want to know it? Own the land that people rent trailers on. They can, they can even put their own trailer on your land. You still own the land.

[B]

Yeah. Chris that we had on has an hour talking about that. The racket right now is building a, a couple mobile home plots on your land. And you can rent those out for like 15, 1600amonth. And they'll pay all year just to have it for like six months because it's cheaper than parking in an RV park. And that's what people are doing is they're subbing out their own property, cutting little slabs and putting electric out to it so that somebody can park a mobile home on the slab. And they're getting like 1500amonth per slab. Yeah, that takes planning. I'd rather just drive to Orlando every day.

[C]

I mean, honestly, you know, my, my goal, you know, like we're talking about moving, right? And my, I want property. I want to put five tiny houses on it. I want my whole family to live there on my kids to live there. I want like, like you want a compound? I do, yeah. I want a David Koresh style comp.

[A]

I, I, when I bought my house, I bought it. I didn't obviously have a custom built, but I bought it knowing I, I had a compound in mind. I have an entire fenced in backyard. What 12 foot high fence. However, height is 9 foot. Whatever. I wanted a pool and I wanted a gym and I wanted everything I needed so I didn't have to leave. And I have like a little mini, like I have everything I need and yeah, enough bedrooms for everybody. Everybody's happy.

[C]

I Mean, yeah, your house is great, dude. And I mean, you live in a great part of town and I. Suburbia. Yeah. But I mean, the thing that we got to talk, I mean like, you know, this is. It all sort of in the, the giant Venn diagram of the. That we talk about crime, veteran stuff, history, you know, all of that. At some point it's kind of overlapping to the point where it's like suburbia ain't gonna be safe anymore. No, it.

[A]

You'll have to.

[C]

No, I mean, like, if you, if. If what Mike is talking about, you know, with the, you know, we've got local cops versus federal cops. How close are we to like, hey, dude, it's us and our crew and we gotta figure out how to get food, you know.

[B]

Yeah, well, there's always gonna be crime, obviously, because low income neighborhoods, there's not a real target for burglaries and car break ins and all that. They. People generally go to areas where people are a little more wealthy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

IPhones laying in their car or iPads or guns that they leave.

[A]

You're only two exits down the interstate from them people. I save them people. You know what I'm talking about? Yes.

[C]

Methad is if you live out in Ocala, you're only a, a couple of turns in a dirt road away from those.

[A]

Somebody says, where in the world is Josh T.

What? What's this about Katy Perry steering, Stealing a veteran's house?

[C]

Oh, I, I am not well versed.

[A]

Get on the Google machine.

[C]

Okay, I'll get on the Google machine. All right, you guys talk amongst yourselves.

[B]

We can end up flexing the show from 12 to 2 now.

[C]

Hey, I mean this is a great opportunity to figure out because our views are back up to 70.

[B]

Dude. Yeah, if you.

[A]

For you. For those of you just joining us, we had to cut the first feed because we had Google Chrome open with running eight. What? Gigabit.

[B]

Yeah, I think we were having an issue with that. It just too much data going through that one browser and it's massive. And then obviously Google suppresses everything, checks your location, listens every word you're saying. So all that's going on in the background. All we did was close that out, open it in a new browser, and we've had no problems whatsoever.

[C]

So yeah, it was just a software. It's hardware to software, man.

[A]

You guys trying to go to 12 to 2?

[C]

I mean, I mean, are you starving, bro?

[A]

I had a energy I gotta work out still.

[B]

But yeah, I mean, I'm not talking about cutting it now. I don't care about that. But obviously as this gets. It seems like every week when we're going to wrap up at 1, we're in our zone. Gotta ask our boss over there, though.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta get with Lewis.

Double time. I'll tell you what, we. We probably will tone down the craziness of our topics on here, but we're gonna be launching soon the Friday episode, which is going to be done remote by all of us. And that's going to be for Patreon only. And that'll be where we kind of can cut loose a little bit more.

[B]

That's kind of what. What tonight is as well.

[A]

Tonight is tonight it's different, but it's not like we're going to be out there.

[B]

No, but we're definitely looser.

[A]

We do a lot more video breakdowns.

[B]

We listen to things crazy.

[A]

Like Tyler, all I'm doing is drinking a beer, dude.

[B]

Listen to things like that. Jimmy gets tape measured. Like, that's a little.

[D]

Little.

[C]

You guys body shamed me and I cut my hair.

Laid upside down all week.

[B]

He's six foot again.

What is it?

[C]

The gravity boot? Yeah.

[B]

For those that didn't watch or don't watch. That's the kind of stuff that's going on on night. Night Shift. We're making Jimmy get up. We're messing.

[A]

Night shift is fun. That goes by that.

[B]

That train. The train situation.

I still. I still can't not.

[C]

There was no lights. There was no bells. There was nothing except a reflective sign.

[B]

Kenny was in the comments, like eight paragraphs trying to. And I wore Kenny's sweatshirt last night as like a truce man. Sorry. Like, it was funny.

[A]

I apologize to you.

[C]

He said like, he made a comment under the video and I was. I was like, brother, we were trying to keep.

[B]

There's no way I got.

[C]

There's just no way I got.

[B]

So I have a buddy that usually watches everything in two or three days later. So I completely, like, stopped laughing about it. Now my buddy sends it to me is like, bro, the trade. And I'm like, here I go again, man. Now I gotta watch the video like 11 more times because I. Every time I watch it, I crack up.

[C]

Yeah, but you missed one where, like, I was like, like looking down, trying not to. Like, I was listening, but I was trying not to, like, do anything. And then I go.

[B]

I go, no, the best is that very first part where we start laughing and Jimmy just goes.

[C]

Like, die bombs. Get me off camera.

[B]

This is bad. This is bad.

[C]

It was the first thing she said. And I've watched it over and over. There was no lights, there was no bells, there was no nothing except a reflective train crossing sign.

[B]

Like I tried to send it to every. I'd send it to one of my daughters and I'm like, just watch this. She goes, why did she talk so much? Like, why did she say so much?

[C]

And you know, like, I know for a fact she has had to tell that story many times.

[B]

Somebody's got to help her tell it.

[C]

You gotta slow, you gotta not overshare.

[B]

To take that reel. Put it in AI and say, shorten this and make me sound better and then let IA Re. Rewrite it for you.

[A]

So use that new sponsor we have.

[B]

Oh yeah, that's plugged in 96.

[A]

Yeah, I'll shorten that for you. Did we find anything about Katy Perry? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So C.C.

[A]

He.

[C]

He fired this at me. Katy Perry is suing an 85 year old dying disabled veteran demanding him he pay 5 million in pro in a property dispute. The lawsuit comes after. Several years after. Comes several years after Katie got in a separate property dispute with a group of nuns. With one nun collapsing. Collapsed and died during the court hearing. Perry.

She's none.

[A]

Why is that relevant?

[B]

Why is that even in there?

[C]

I don't know, but it's there. I'm reading what. What we got sent. Perry is suing the disabled veteran over. It's probably relevant because it's like, dude, she is a terrible piece of. Yeah, I mean, there's a reason why Orlando Bloom's not married to her anymore.

[B]

So.

[C]

And wait, he And. And neither is Russell Brand. They were married for a while too. So I mean, we like Russell Brand. Russell Brand's great.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, Russell Brand. Hi. You could have me on the show.

The lawsuit stems from a dispute that started in 2020. The man had tried backing out of the sale of his home to Perry. So he was going to sell it, decided not to.

[A]

You can legally do that, right?

[C]

Yeah, you should be able to. It's your property.

[A]

Yeah. All right.

[C]

Well, the judge ultimately ruled in Perry's favor saying that the deal was done.

[A]

You. You.

[C]

Something happened. And it doesn't say what, but I can assume that something happened. And Perry is now demanding about 5 million in damages caused by extended litigation over the real estate sale, per the New York Post.

[A]

Is this dying veteran rich as well?

[C]

I'm assuming so, given where he lives and he's.

[A]

Because it doesn't sound like a frigilous lawsuit.

[C]

Yeah, the man.

[A]

Did I say that word? Right.

[C]

Frivolous.

[A]

I said, nailed it.

[C]

You're thinking, dude, he's just hungry.

[B]

It's the lisp that got him. Somebody.

[A]

Somebody commented on the video where I said, in the video, it starts, somebody said, I have a list. And then somebody commented, somebody said, somebody said, I have a lip. Oh my God, man.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

So, yeah, I mean, yeah, you're getting sued for 5 million. Come, come get me when you're getting sued for 20.

[C]

Well, he's dying, man. He's got a degenerative heart. Heart disease.

[A]

Does your family pick up that tab?

[C]

I don't know. That's a great question. I mean. I mean, once you're dead, can they. Can they sue your family?

[A]

It's not. As long as he doesn't have like a real. More like a company or, or a.

[C]

Thrust or like, like, you know, like if you don't put your can in a trust right now, when you die, the government takes it.

[A]

The can.

[C]

You can. Your suppressor.

[A]

What? Yeah.

[C]

You didn't know that?

[B]

What, they come to your house and knock on the door and say, sorry, Sorry for your loss, man, but I need that can.

[C]

That's correct. ATF will take it if you don't put it. If you buy it as a person instead of buying it in a trust. Ask Jim about it. Ask. That's why Jim.

[B]

Maybe we'll get Jim on a night about that. Tune in tonight. We'll see if Jim's available. Yeah, or we'll call him.

[C]

One of the questions I asked him, like, are you doing trust or is this a personal sale? He says, no, we. Everybody does a trust.

[A]

Get out of town.

[C]

Yeah. So same for any other NFA controlled items. Short bearer rifles, machine guns. If it's not in a trust, it goes to the ATF when you die because it can't be passed from one person to another. Okay, so.

[A]

All right, well, I think we covered everything. Anybody got anything else? We went out, we went later because we took a 30 minute technical break, so we went a little bit later. I guess we're toying with. I gotta. We gotta get with the whole team here and figure out if Lewis is.

[B]

Billing us time and a half right now. Lewis is on overtime.

[A]

If we wanna. If we want to go to 2. If we go 11 to 2, 12 to 2, we, you know, whatever.

[B]

I.

[A]

Doesn't really matter to me.

[B]

I just need food.

[A]

Cece says Tyler has 12 foot ceilings.

[C]

Dude, I remember.

[A]

I'll never forget. I was talking about something. I was talking about having flat screens in every room. In my house. And somebody just goes, dude. And I was like. And there's like. Like, I was like, I got like six or seven flat screens. Somebody said the same thing. They're like, you got seven flat screens in your house? Are you rich?

[B]

It's like, dude, they're like 300 bucks a pop. I was getting on about my car in there. CC was up my ass about the car I drive, so.

[C]

I worked a.

[B]

Long time for that, dude.

[C]

I mean, I worked a long time.

[A]

I've served Uncle Sam and the people a lot.

[B]

And my wife still works for the damn government.

[A]

I mean, you wonder what happens when we skim money off the top dog. That's where it goes. We got to retire first.

[C]

Yeah, well, dude, I mean. I mean, once I get to 100, I'm gonna be real happy. I don't understand.

[B]

Just send them one of these episodes. You'll get.

You'll get 110.

[C]

So.

Favorite space marine to play as. Are you talking about in space Marine, too? Because I play tactical.

Yeah. So. But I had a lot of people coming in the comments about Warhammer, by the way.

[A]

Good.

[B]

I almost downloaded it. I ain't got there yet.

[C]

Yeah, well, you know, I mean, I get it. There's a lot.

[B]

I was watching the Giants game, and I almost ran in front of the truck.

[A]

Dude, what the was that? Do you think he threw the game?

[B]

The kick change a game.

[A]

But he think that was on purpose?

[D]

No.

[B]

I mean, unless it was a gambling thing. I think his statement was. And if you go back and watch it as he's putting the ball down, it moves pretty drastically as he's in his kicking motion. And he said he was like mid. Trying to adjust the movement of the ball. It was obviously. The NFL posted it like 10 seconds later on YouTube and said, this has never happened before. Watch this. It was brutal. It's brutal to be a Giants fan. We have some. We have a good future, I think there. But.

Waiting all day Sunday, not watching the game and then watching it Monday night and seeing that disaster is. Sums up my sports.

[A]

Has the Giants ever been as good as the Eli Manning days? Has there been like a wait?

[B]

They weren't even good then.

That's all they got. Yeah, eli, man, the 2011 was the last super bowl, and I think they're the worst record in football since Eli Manning left.

[A]

They really haven't recovered since.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

Well, they had a fluke playoff year where the. The famous picture. They all decided. The whole team decided to go to Miami in the Bye week and like, go pose on a yacht instead of, like, practicing. And they got destroyed in the playoff game. And then they had made the playoffs two years ago, I believe when I was in Vegas, they beat. Had actually won one game. And they are atrocious. They're the worst team in football. They're the worst record. And they were the first team eliminated from the playoffs this year.

[C]

Well, I mean, first. I mean, the Colts are. Have struggled since Manning left too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it seems like when a Manning leaves your. Your locker room, it. Things go to for a while.

[B]

I don't know what it is. It's bad.

[C]

It is bad. But I. I want the Giants to be. I want, like, all of the original teams to be good. It's like the Steelers suck too. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, worked. I know. We're. We're. We're slowly fading out.

[A]

You guys. When do you guys want to start this Friday show?

[B]

Let me check my schedule.

[C]

Check.

[B]

My.

[A]

Mike's gone, like, pretty much all of December not gone.

[C]

I think it's. I think probably. It probably needs to start after the first.

[B]

I would. I would agree.

[A]

Okay, so you guys want to start in January?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The first Friday would be a hangover day, I guess if you want. It would be the day after New year's day.

[C]

The 2nd.

[A]

January 2nd. We'll do a January 2nd.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Jimmy will be. Jimmy should be. I'm feeling good.

[A]

I will say this. Jimmy is up earlier than most people I know. I said, I wake up at six in the morning. That's my new thing now. So I'm gonna brag about it, but I won't bother people. I'll send out texts, like, 7, 7:30. I know you get up early, but Jimmy surprisingly is up at 7:30, responding.

[B]

He's already here by 7.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Yeah, I am.

[B]

I've not beat Jimmy to the studio yet.

[A]

Jimmy, you know today we're not recording, right? Oh, we're not?

[C]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

Like, Jimmy's up and at it.

[C]

The problem is, is that I have to drive through two major metropolitan areas and I am not dealing with. I am not driving down the most dangerous road in Florida at the worst possible time. I will leave early and I will sit. And it's great for me because I can sit here, it's quiet. I can do my research and all the stuff that I want to get done. And, you know, that way I am ready to go when people come in. Mike was like, hey, make sure you do this. I'm like, I've already got it. I've already got it.

[B]

I've already came in.

[A]

We did.

[B]

We did good this morning. Yeah, everything went. Then everything went to. We fixed it mid show. But Mike is not going to Israel. Mike is going on a cruise. And for the first time, other than being in the military, I'm going to spend Christmas somewhere besides my home.

[A]

Wow, that's such an old person thing.

[C]

Like I, an old Florida person.

Tell me.

[B]

I'll be like, you remember back in, oh, 25 when I was on a cruise for Christmas? I just want to do something different. And last.

[A]

You don't want to spend it with your family?

[B]

I always do.

[A]

I always do.

[B]

I always do. I want to spend it on the ocean. I want to go on a cruise.

[A]

I mean, I'm gonna be that old person.

[C]

It's not.

[B]

I'm gonna be back Friday. I'll be back the day after Christmas. But the reason I got it was 20, 24, January, I think right after New Year, we went on a cruise and the ship was still decorated. It was really cool. You're on a cruise ship, it's different. Everything was Christmas. The theme Christmas stuff was really cool. I was like, man, it'd be cool to spend Christmas.

[A]

Cruise.

[B]

You ain't been on one, Dude, I've.

[A]

Been on a cruise.

[B]

Butler guy. I got a butler.

[C]

Spirit at Carnival Cruise Line, where you're.

[B]

A cabin, do they deliver you a present?

[C]

Did you guys see that, like, brawl that happened on one of those cruises? We gotta break that video down because.

[B]

Ultimas of the sea, I mean, like, we've.

[A]

We've.

[C]

Gotta go on one of those virgin cruises.

[B]

Yeah, go on msc. It's. It was the best kept secret that it's a cruise going to Israel, it's going to Nassau, their private island, and Dominican Republic with three days at sea, which I love sea days. You're just staring at the ocean. You're on the deck, you're minding your business, you're drinking this fireball and reminds.

[A]

Me of Christmas.

Family in my swim trunks, staring at the water.

[B]

Kids, open the present. Let's go get it. Go. All right, everybody, let's go to bed.

[A]

It's late. My gates is family.

[C]

All right, we had. It was funny. He's like, he's got.

[B]

I don't want to put his business.

[C]

Out there, but he's like, my, me and my daughter are tight. I'm tight with all of them, but me and my daughter are real tight.

[B]

We were real tight the last few days. So, no, I just thought it would be different. Like family. When I was serving the United States government in freaking so dump Louisiana. When I couldn't make Christmas the only.

[C]

Time I've ever been out on the ocean. I was on a ship that belonged to the United States Navy and I never wanted again.

[A]

I've been on a cruise. It was fun. I wouldn't spend.

[B]

This is a seven day cruise in the yacht club. All inclusive. No stress gambling, free food, free alcohol.

[A]

You ever seen that movie four Christmases? I hope your gets shut down.

[B]

No, it's not gonna get. Why would you say that?

[C]

Dude, Carnival accepts ebt. Is that real?

[B]

Tyler's got drugs on him.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

That's.

[C]

CC said Carnival.

[A]

No, it's not real. Don't listen to cc. Never listen to Carnival.

[B]

Up their rules and they caught some.

[A]

Never read anything CC says until you say it three times in your head.

[C]

I will.

[B]

So I will not make that Wednesday. Well, there's a whole disaster that week anyway. You guys have to alter the show again.

[A]

Well, I don't think we're doing a.

[B]

Christmas is on Thursday.

[A]

No, we're not.

[B]

Wednesday's Christmas Eve.

[A]

Just Justin from Donut shop.

Is going to come cover for you on Monday.

[B]

Yeah, and I'll come on remote from the great Atlantic Ocean, dude.

[C]

Like Pat McAfee.

[A]

What would you do? What would you do if you just sat there in the waiting room and no one ever brought you.

[D]

That's fine.

[B]

Well, I'm not gonna. You think I'm gonna sit there and help you nut. Because I'll be walking around with it kind of on my phone and when I'm like it, I'm going to the three card poker table. They can.

[C]

Dick.

[B]

You're not gonna. You're not gonna ruin my time. I mean the only time I get my wife without stress. Dude, that's. I'll be honest with you. That's another thing is my wife's job is so stressful. The way she's being treated and also the job in general. I feel like that is a time. And I get it's Christmas, but I spend a lot of time with my family. I'm at my mom's almost every day she's at. We go to her mom's for la. We're just gonna go do something different.

[A]

Like old people alone.

[B]

No, she will not be alone.

[A]

I'm sorry, Mike's mom. I will come spend Christmas with you.

[B]

Family will be there.

[A]

Mike won't.

[B]

My family will be. Do you know how many times I.

[C]

Worked on Christmas Because I was a first responder.

[A]

My table was selfless. Now you're just being selfish.

[C]

Oh, can.

[B]

I didn't earn a Christmas cruise after 23 years, 26 years of service to the United States and the community. I didn't earn the right to get my car, drive to Miami and go on a cruise ship. You're right.

[C]

Can I ask a question, Mike?

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

When. When are we going to be able to talk about. About the stuff going on with your wife?

[B]

Hopefully soon. I was actually contact. I'm not gonna say it. Hopefully soon.

[C]

I'm trying not to put you on the spot, but I actually talk.

[B]

I actually, if you watch my episode from yesterday on Copville, I went into a little bit of her dis. The disparity in the discipline she received versus male co workers. I'm the first one that shits on female cops. So don't think I'm just targeting. I'm being friendly to a female cop. Not. But I can show and I'm breaking it down and I have all the ies and everything. It was targeted. It was a targeted attack against me and her. I caught the big brunt of it. But I can show very easily that her 40 hour suspension is the most discipline anyone has received for Group 1 minor offenses. It'd be like going to prison for a joint. You get caught with a little bit of marijuana and you end up in prison for just that. That they're like, you know what, this guy's going to prison. Even though you really can't do that.

[C]

I, I'm not even, I'm not even talking about that.

[B]

No, no, I'm not going to go into that.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

That at some point that's going to be on her terms.

[C]

Okay, well. And you know. Yeah, I look, I like, I, I know at least some. And I'm like, what the is going on in that agency?

[B]

No, yes. It goes so much deeper. But as watch my episode yesterday, I talked about, you can't complain on them. You can't complain on them. You can't go to anybody. Nobody wants to hear it. You can't go say, you know, you're a cop, you got to put up with that stuff. And we're gonna, you're gonna have to deal with a lot of stuff. But by the way, we got this mental health program. If you have any problems. Well, what if you're the problem? Can't complain on. You can't complain on the company. You can't, you cannot go say, I want the company to investigate itself.

[C]

At least in the army. You got a new commander in first arm every couple of years.

[B]

Well, we do, and unfortunately that we got the new sheriff and he's a.

[C]

But is there any sheriffs you like?

[A]

It's a valid question. Jacksonville, that's not a. They're a chief now.

[B]

No, he's just. No other way. He's a sheriff. Jacksonville is now sheriff's office.

[A]

I thought it was sheriff.

[B]

It was a police department, and now it's a sheriff's office.

[A]

Jacksonville.

[B]

JSO Jackson, State Police. On the side of the cars.

[A]

Is he appointed or elected?

[B]

He's elected. I believe now he's elected. It's kind of like Miami Dade.

[A]

If he ain't elected. He ain't.

[B]

I believe I. I could be wrong. Miami Dade was a police department. They just became a sheriff's office, which again, that's another good sheriff agency. Cuban, female Republican. Greg. Tony. Terrible. There's some good ones, like, over your way. You get a little bit there. They don't like me. None of them.

[C]

I mean, I can tell you Martin.

[B]

County sheriff is great. Martin County's a great agency.

[C]

The sheriff Bob Gueri, hates your guts.

[A]

Great.

[D]

Great.

[C]

No, he's. He's Pinellas County Sheriff.

[A]

I know that was.

[B]

That probably stems from me sending a complaint about a sheriff to the Florida Sheriff's Association. And now they gotta look at their own guy and go, he did what? People don't like that. People don't like that.

[C]

Hey, I'm sorry to. I'm sorry to tear it up, but, man, like, you know, I got that mark.

[B]

I always say when guys ask, I get a thousand a week about where should I go in Florida. Jso, Martin County Sheriff's Office. I. I think St. Lucie County Sheriff's office is not terrible. I originally on that guy because I was friends with Pearson. Pearson was the previous shares. I'm a huge friend of Pearsons. He changed a lot of things, but I don't think it's terrible. But you, like, look at Grady Judd gets all the heat. Press go. Go ask one of their guys what it's really like to work there. Find a full county guy and talk to him.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Off the record. Wayne Ivy's all over the news, running his mouth closer to us. Brevard county. And they can't keep people in those seats.

[C]

Dude, I hate him. I used to have so many friends in pcso and now, like, there's nobody there anymore.

[A]

Yeah, nobody's a cop anymore.

[C]

Nobody wants so. Well, I mean, you figure then you.

[B]

Get south, there's some good Police agencies like, I hate the fact Doral Police Department is very squared away, but the chief doesn't enforce the vest policy and it drives me insane. He has a mat. He has his guys running around the.

[A]

Building really depressing us with your vest.

[C]

I, I, I actually gotta, I gotta, I watch.

[D]

One second. Oh, sorry. Hold it.

[B]

Just didn't even go. I went to a police officer's funeral on Tuesday that was shot. I observed 6, 700 cops at a police officer's funeral who was shot in the line of duty not wearing a vest. That seems very silly.

[A]

Don't wear it to stuff like that.

[B]

Why? You drive all the way across the state from Oviedo.

[A]

Maybe you drive, but you're not going to wear it in a ceremony. Okay?

[B]

They don't have one. It's not there. They drove hours in a marked patrol car with no vest where they could have encountered a dav, a trooper involved in a shooting, a critical incident along the way. That doesn't make sense to me. Never will. So leave your gun at home too. It's heavy. You're not going to shoot anybody at the funeral.

[A]

Leave it home.

[C]

That's leave it home.

[B]

Leave your boots home. Leave your shoes off. You're not going to do anything.

[C]

You're going to run. I never was a cop, but to me it's like, go naked.

[B]

It, you don't need any of that.

Why not Leave your gun? The gun's heavy. It's miserable. It digs in your head.

[A]

It looks good, though.

[B]

So it's a vest. I look at that cop and go, I want that guy next to me.

[C]

Get rid of all your mags. Get rid of all your oc.

[A]

Do you have anything? We gotta wrap it up.

[C]

Yeah, I got one question and we can maybe make this a teaser. So I'm driving down i4 today. Lots of.

FHP out. Observed a lot of troopers walking up to vehicles.

[B]

On what side?

[C]

On the driver.

[B]

So.

Tune in tonight. We'll break down the driver's side versus passenger side.

[C]

All right.

[B]

I think it's a great topic and you as not a police officer, probably have a lot of questions.

[C]

I, no, I have, I am a hundred percent for it.

[B]

But don't wear your vest either. Walk in traffic without a vest.

[A]

Oh my God. All right, we'll see you guys later. Join us tonight on the Counterculture Network and the Antihero broadcast network on YouTube will be live with the Night Shift, 8pm Eastern Time. Brews breakdowns. Good times. We'll have some people in here. You'll hear me drinking beer. Apparently it makes that sound. But thanks for joining us. Thanks for sticking around. Thanks for coming back after tech issues. And we couldn't do this without y'. All. Peace.

Jv team for life.