12/11/2025: GETTIN SCHOOLED feat. Jay The Plug

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: GETTIN SCHOOLED feat. Jay The Plug

Date: December 11, 2025

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Overview

This episode of The Antihero Broadcast features regular hosts Lewis, Mike, Jimmy, and special guest Jay the Plug. With its signature mix of rough-cut humor, law enforcement banter, and blue-collar authenticity, the episode explores current issues affecting veterans, first responders, and working-class Americans, with a focus on surveillance, government overreach, policing practices, and the ever-present technological creep into personal privacy.

Jay the Plug, an ex-federal inmate turned influencer, brings a unique perspective, especially on privacy, surveillance, criminal justice, and the blurred lines between legality and personal liberty. The hosts banter through police stories, government skepticism, and debates over the moon landing—all with a tone that’s irreverent but grounded in real-world experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflections on Government Overreach & Privacy

• Surveillance State Concerns ([08:17]-[12:45])
  • Jay discusses the normalization of tracking through apps (e.g., Snapchat, phones, facial recognition at airports).
    • "When my daughter, once I got the phone, put in my name from her mother, I said, we're not doing the tracking thing no more. ... I don't want my child to be accustomed to everybody watching her...." – Jay [09:57]
  • Mike details how facial recognition and location data are routinely collected ("Even if you slide that little bar off... they can still find you." [10:34])
  • The team debates if opting out is possible or just an illusion; consensus is that “the government/company will still find you.”
• Tech as a Tool for Control
  • The introduction and spread of smart TVs, license plate readers, and "geofencing" are seen as steps toward total monitoring:
    • "Every time you open those apps... Can I use your location?... Even if you say no, it’s still tracking." – Mike [19:11]
  • Jay explains how data collection powers both law enforcement and marketing, with little oversight ([16:08]-[19:48]).

2. Law Enforcement: Intersection of Tech, Policy, and Policing

• Policing Power & Jury Trials in the UK ([07:49]-[09:56])
  • The crew discusses concerns over the erosion of jury trials for crimes carrying less than 3 years in the UK—a “slippery slope.”
    • "They take one thing... accept it... before you know it, government just says okay, they pick and choose... and the government gets to do everything." – Jay [08:23]
  • Both “professional criminal” and “professional cop” (Jay and Mike) agree this is a bad trend.
• License Plate Readers, Tag Readers, Bodycam Tech ([20:19]-[21:11])
  • Mike explains law enforcement hardware constantly tracks both cops and civilians.
  • Jimmy brings up recent hacks of these systems, increasing risk to personal privacy.
• Smart Devices as Surveillance Tools
  • Jay recounts a Federal case where smart TVs are used for surveillance, highlighting low consumer awareness ([21:11]-[22:31]).
  • Drug dealers and tech-savvy criminals take technological countermeasures, but acknowledge law enforcement’s growing edge.

3. Traffic Stops, Pursuits, and Public Perception

• Debate: Should Police Pursue Fleeing Vehicles? ([54:46]-[61:38])
  • Divided opinions: Mike supports tactical chases (“wreck the piss out of them”), but Jay and others question the value/risk, especially considering innocent bystanders.
    • "Are we willing to kill little kids... for stolen car suspects?" – Jay [57:01]
  • Discussion diverges between “Old School Policing” vs. adapting to high-tech, big-city realities.
  • Pursuit policies vary, and technological workarounds (birds, LPR, grappling tech) exist but aren’t always feasible.
• Traffic Stops as Policing & Content ([74:16]-[78:36])
  • Controversial viral traffic stops are seen as performance (“peacocking” for cameras), and the ethics of using police work to generate content are laid bare.
    • “How do you know they’re not pulling people over, arresting people just for content?” – Jay [80:11]

4. Civil Liberties: Licensing, Property, and ‘Rights’ as Privileges ([23:52]-[24:41])

• Hunting/Fishing Licenses as Loss of Rights
  • Jay notes, “A hunting license is what you get when the government takes your rights away... and then sells them back to you as a privilege.”
    • Mike recalls being arrested for a short fish, underscoring how basic rights (eating, shelter) become regulated privileges.

5. Moon Landing Debate, Elon Musk, and Tech Skepticism

• Did We Go to the Moon? ([97:55]-[108:59])
  • Jimmy defends the official narrative (technology, process logistics), while Jay, Lewis, and Mike raise doubts based on technology, cost, and lack of subsequent missions.
    • “What they’re actually saying is, for the first time in history, technology was greater in the past than in the future, which is impossible.” – Clip played by Lewis [98:11]
    • Jimmy’s counter: “We built rockets—and we don't build those rockets anymore... Of course, right now we don't have the capability, because we weren't going to the moon for the last 50 years.” [99:45]
• Elon Musk & Colonizing Mars ([108:09]-[110:30])
  • Jay brings evidence that Musk’s network of companies (SpaceX, Tesla, The Boring Company) are all pieces of a plan to make Mars habitable.
    • “The whole thing is he wants another planet for humanity...” – Jimmy [110:26]
  • The hosts are skeptical that humanity can survive as a tunnel-dwelling, Mars-bound species.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Every time I get in the car... it tracks, and I have all my stuff off, I opt out of everything I possibly can..." – Jay [15:02]
• "Your body cam, does it give a geolocation? ...Yes, absolutely." – Mike [20:35]
• "How do you know it’s John Tavius? He’s got dreads. So does he, so does he, so does he." – Mike [58:12]
• "They take one thing... everyone gets used to it... then we'll go to five years... before you know it, they don't have to listen to the people anymore." – Jay [08:23]
• "A hunting license is what you get when the government takes your rights away... then sells them back to you as a privilege." – Jay [23:52]
• "We make jokes about everybody. Edgy comedy is the best comedy..." – Lewis [04:32]
• "If you’re not pushing what they want, they’ll slow your speed down." – Jay, on social media suppression [92:01]
• “The government doesn’t want you to crack down on crime, they want it to run rampant.” – Jay [50:21]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 08:10 | Jury trial changes in the UK, government overreach | | 09:57 | Jay’s stance against phone tracking for his daughter | | 10:34 | Inescapability of mobile tracking | | 16:08 | Geofencing, ad targeting explained | | 19:11 | App location tracking, “opting out” as an illusion | | 20:35 | Law enforcement devices, geo-location, and data breaches | | 23:52 | Discussion on fishing/hunting licenses as lost rights | | 24:45 | Heavy property tax and “never owning” your home | | 54:46 | Debate: to chase or not to chase fleeing suspects | | 58:12 | Eyewitness limits and identifying suspects | | 61:38 | Tactical nuances of city vs. highway pursuits | | 74:16 | Bodycam “67 in a 55” viral traffic stop, content vs duty | | 97:55 | Moon landing conspiracy arguments kick off | | 98:11 | “Technology was greater in the past than in the future…” | | 110:09 | Elon Musk’s Mars colonization plan explained |

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Additional Topics

• Criminal Tactics vs Police Tactics: Jay reminisces about prison distract/hustle tactics and contrasts criminal street smarts with naive or "by-the-book" policing. [49:07]
• Social Media, Virality, and Cops as Content Creators: The ethics and fallout of “cop TikTokers,” department image, and public trust today. [74:16 - 80:39]
• Conspiracy Culture & Technology Skepticism: Shadow-banning, controlled narratives, and government “data breaches” as fronts for data selling. [88:43 - 89:03]
• Hiring & Agency Culture: The difference between old-school recruits and a “woke” approach, as described with humor and frustration. [81:40+]

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Tone & Style Notes

• The hosts maintain a punchy, candid tone, blending gallows humor with street-level insight.
• Jay’s ex-con perspective brings a critical, reality-based angle on personal freedom, policing, and surveillance.
• Listeners can expect frank language, dark jokes, and a refusal to take official narratives at face value.
• The show flows in a true roundtable style, with both sharp disagreements and much common ground.

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For New Listeners

If you’re a vet, a cop, or just someone who cares about liberty and blue-collar realities, this episode offers a rough, real look at how tech, government, and culture now intersect—and collide—with individual life. Expect no simple answers, but plenty of learned skepticism and open debate.

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Listen for:

• Gritty humor and the inside-scoop on cops, criminals, surveillance, and society.
• A rare back-and-forth between ex-cons and ex-cops.
• Unfiltered takes on technology, government, and the persistent struggle between security and freedom.

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(Ad Reads and product plugs have been omitted from this summary for clarity and focus.)

Transcript

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[Lewis]

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[Mike]

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[Lewis]

Yep.

[Mike]

I'm a little worried about Lewis today.

[Lewis]

Why?

[Mike]

Lewis is off his game. Off his game early. I'm just getting warmed up.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Girl problems.

[Mike]

I don't know. Maybe his French toast was a little soggy this morning because he's a little. He'. If Lewis gets beat up today. Today's the day. Lewis was launching the. The launching. The intro before. We're ready, flipping the cameras around. But don't forget to join our Patreon. We're going live in there frequently very soon. On Fridays, we'll have an exclusive live only Patreon show. And check out the antiherobroadcast.com. there's still time to order some merch for Christmas. Check out our store. Shirts, hats, stickers, allegedly. We got some cool things in there. We got our guest.

[Lewis]

Everybody knows our guest by now.

[Mike]

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[Lewis]

Mud babies.

[Mike]

Mud babies.

[Jay]

Jay, the plug content, you got to realize it has nothing to do with race.

[Mike]

I think we're allowed to. The race is getting pretty, pretty wide open.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Tyler's pushing it to the limit. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

We're going right to the edge.

[Lewis]

It's fun. I mean, it's not. It's. First off, it's all jokes, right? It's. It. Comedy is edgy. That's the best comedy. Comedics will tell you that. And I mean, it's nothing that everybody doesn't make fun. I mean, we make jokes about everybody. And it's funny because, I mean, people make white people jokes.

[Jay]

I walked.

[Mike]

I was in the Gap before I left town. I went to gas station, get my Gatorade and the guy go. The guy at the counter does this to me, goes. Does pepper spray work? He's like, bro, what that dude said about the giant pepper spray, he actually did that to me. He's like. I was like, I think it works.

[Lewis]

There was actually Asian people in the comments saying, I've been pepper sprayed. It works.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

What else? Want to start with reflections?

[Mike]

Yeah, I think we just were.

[Lewis]

Well, they. A lot of people in the comments were not pleased at our pretty generalized take on England.

[Jimmy]

And, yeah, I mean, I, I, I. Dude, I got.

[Lewis]

Unless I was missing something.

[Jimmy]

No, I don't know. Why? Because I have all of the news articles to back it up. Yeah, Everything that I said, it's like, hey, if you want to get mad at the messenger, it seems like it's just a bunch of shills for freaking uk.

[Mike]

As their argument went on, it sounded like they were. We were exactly right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we can't do this.

[Mike]

We can't do that. But we can do this. But we can't do that.

[Lewis]

Like, were they. Were they English? Were they people from the uk? I don't know.

[Jay]

What.

[Mike]

Now? One guy definitely was.

[Jimmy]

So, I mean, so first of all, I said, hey, the. The. The flag for the UK is three flags. It's a conglomeration of three flags. The St. George Cross is the flag of England. The other two are the. Let's see, it's the St. Andrew's Cross of Scotland. That's the blue field with the. Their. Their little cross thing. And then the St Patrick's Cross of Ireland. And all three of them together make the flag of the United Kingdoms. That's why it's the United Kingdom. People are like, no, no, that's not right. I'm like, yes, the. It is, dude. It's. It's.

[Lewis]

I mean, quick Google search, somebody said, lo absolutely over the top fake news. Jury trials have gone for things where they're just pointless and a waste of money. Okay. I don't know what that's justifying getting rid of jury trials.

[Jimmy]

So here's the thing. I got the news article for it. If you want to pull it up, Louis, it's in bold, so you can find it where it says UK Jury trial.

[Mike]

Oh, boy.

[Lewis]

He's like, you can have an opinion, criticize the government, and post about it online. Something. You're fast. I don't know if this is on us. Something you're fast on your way, not being able to do. And it's union flag, not Jack, so he sounds like he's English.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I said, yeah, it's the. Look, we're from America. It's the Union Jack. Okay? That's what we've called it because we dumped the tn.

[Lewis]

Is it like a soccer. Is it like a soccer football thing?

[Jimmy]

I have no idea. Don't care. I'm from America and it's the Union Jack. That's what we call it. And if you guys don't call it that, you can suck my left test.

[Lewis]

I said, wait, I'm confused. We have to have passports or we can't speak our mind. Let's bring it back, bro, and slow it down. He said not that much in it. You are fast becoming, not able to speak your minds about a certain group of people. You're being fed mostly nonsense about the uk.

[Mike]

So isn't that right, what we're saying?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You don't have any freedom, you said.

[Lewis]

So you can't speak about certain group of people. But free speech is alive and well.

[Jay]

You heard what Trump just did yesterday, right? You heard what Trump did yesterday. He just took them off the table as a world power, the whole European thing, everything. Because I don't know if you did the whole report, but he said, listen, dude, he says England is nothing no more. I mean, look what the clown they're doing as a criminal and they're saying that no jury trials for people under three years.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's, that was the first question I wanted to ask you. Like, hey, we're only getting rid of jury trials for the small stuff.

[Lewis]

Yeah. What's the small stuff?

[Mike]

In my case, the small stuff.

[Jimmy]

And then.

[Lewis]

But what.

[Jimmy]

Isn't that a slippery slope, Jay? I mean, how long before a prosecutor.

[Jay]

No, no, no, it is, it's. So the thing that you have to understand is anything that goes with what they do is they take one thing. Is it acceptable? So then they're like, ah, like, well, they already approved it. Everybody's got used to it. Then we'll go to five years and then we go on up. Before you know it, you know, the government just says, okay, they pick and choose. They don't have to listen to the people no more. And the government gets to do everything. I mean, Mike was in law enforcement. He understands that if you gave cops full power, what would they do? Would it get to their head or what? I mean, yeah, think about it.

[Mike]

Yeah. What you're saying, what they're essentially saying is, is under. It's. It's like, it's like the IA process at the sheriff's office. Certain offenses you commit, they go, well, you can't appeal it. And if you do, it's to three people that work here that are in command staff. So it's like, okay, three people in the command staff are going to go against the sheriff? Absolutely not. So this is like the same thing. You're saying the government charged you with a crime, and now the government listens to you try to defend yourself in the crime that they charged you with with no outside input, but a judge who is already part of their system. So you're basically looking at the way I read that headline. If you commit something under three years, you're going to jail for three years.

[Jimmy]

So definitely, yes.

[Mike]

There's no leeway.

[Jay]

You have no voice.

[Jimmy]

No, wait, just so we got it clear, professional. Can I call it professional?

[Jay]

Dude, I'm a professional criminal, okay. My whole life.

[Jimmy]

This is professional criminal and a professional cop.

[Jay]

I don't know about.

[Mike]

I don't know how professional.

[Jimmy]

Okay, well, you. You did get paid to carry a.

[Lewis]

It was his profession.

[Jimmy]

It was.

[Jay]

It was his profession.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Are both in agreement that this is a bad idea and this is not something you would want in your country?

[Jay]

Yes or no?

[Mike]

You don't want that in your country.

[Jay]

So take this back another step. So this whole tracking thing. So I just got into a big debate with somebody about tracking their kids. Why do you think they're making this normal about doing this whole tracking? And Snapchat started it where you can put locations on, like, I'm against it totally. So when my daughter, once I got the phone, put in my name from her mother, I said, we're not doing the tracking thing no more. We're not doing it. I don't want my child to be custom to everybody watching her and she can't be an adult on her own and know that decisions that she makes needs to be solely on her and not like, what is everybody watching me do?

[Mike]

And to take it a step further, you can slide that little bar off on your phone that says location services off. They can still find you. They can. The company, the government will still find you. That is all for show. And that's what you're. I think what you're getting at is. Yes, it's beginning to build a database.

[Lewis]

What's a muzzy?

[Jimmy]

A Muslim.

[Lewis]

Oh, derogatory.

[Mike]

Derogatory term for a Muslim.

[Lewis]

I didn't know. So.

[Jay]

So let's even take it further. So we are doing everything that Europe is doing. Okay? So if you want to say we're not. You know, I went to federal prison for eight years and I was home on home confinement for three and a half, so I just started being able to travel. You go to the airports. You know how freaky it is to go up there and you have to put your ID and they take a picture of you every time. Why you think they're doing that?

[Mike]

Yeah, they're tracking where you're going. They're updating your. What you look like, you're.

[Jay]

You're doing your facial stuff. So now they can facial track you everywhere.

[Lewis]

Even if they have a warrant, it's.

[Mike]

Even going to the cruise ships like I'm getting on the cruise. And it says, do you want to enter in our barometrics database so we can easily all. They're. They're guising it that we're doing it for your ease.

[Lewis]

You don't have to id.

[Mike]

They know where everybody's going.

[Jay]

They're doing facial recognition. So. Yeah, no, no, they're pushed it in airport. So if you want to fly, you have to do it. Okay, so there's no. Like, I can go. No, I want to opt out of this. Why is there no opt out of it? So they're trying to say that we're not going to go down the road of China, but we are going down the road to China because we're already getting facial recognition every time you fly.

[Mike]

We're just doing it in party mode. We're letting everybody shoot everybody and letting everybody act crazy. But they're still gathering the data. China just does it very. We're doing it. We're doing it because we said so.

[Jay]

Yeah, they know exactly.

[Mike]

They're doing it. Like, here's your Snapchat, here's your. Every time you take a selfie, here's your daughter's Snapchat. All that stuff's being collected.

[Lewis]

So, Jimmy, you replied to this guy, this Brit, if no one cares, why are they going after the Union Jack? And he said, who is they? And no one is their tones, their tones of them tied to street lights. There's tone tones that he was a little. I don't know if he's tired of treat lights flying from people's homes and government buildings right now.

[Jimmy]

Okay. Oh, I've been waiting for this. Oh, what's up, Myth? Okay, I got the. The freaking NBC News. Not exactly a. A shill for right wing. Yeah, go ahead and bring that one up, Lewis.

[Lewis]

If they're covering it must be pretty bad.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So that one is going to be UK far right flags. That's what it's marked.

[Lewis]

All right.

[Jimmy]

And I'm going to read you a direct quote from the article, you scum sucking piece of. I'm, I, I'm not.

[Lewis]

I'm.

[Jimmy]

This is what it is. When a St. George cross was painted on the wall of a St. John's Baptist Church in the town of Lincoln, the vicar, Rachel Hoskins, saw it as a clear attempt to intimidate the diverse local community. The Saints George cross has become a symbol of nationalism, which has been confused with patriotism. The two are very Different.

[Mike]

What the.

[Jimmy]

Does that sound like to you?

[Lewis]

Sounds like exactly what we were talking about.

[Jimmy]

It sounds exactly like what we were talking about. We've got people over here. I mean, that's just one quote. That one's just my favorite. Huh?

[Mike]

No, I'm talking about.

[Jimmy]

Okay, that was just my favorite of people are like, oh, you. We can't fly that flag. Your. Your flag of St. George is going to intimidate the.

[Lewis]

The.

[Jimmy]

The pop. The diverse local community.

[Lewis]

Okay?

[Jay]

So let's just take that. So this. Somebody in the comments just said that my kids and my husband. All our locations will be.

[Lewis]

That's my wife.

[Jay]

That's your wife?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jay]

So your wife is saying this, and she says you can opt out. There's no opting out.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I didn't. I never assumed you could opt out. Being tracked by the government.

[Jay]

No, you can't, because Mike just said it. And the thing is, is, like, here we go. Like, you know, we're gonna ask your wife. You know, your wife.

[Mike]

Look, you know that big, long thing in there, the thousands of words we don't read? You know, most. Most. Most of us rent this phone from the company. We get it, and we pay monthly payments. Yeah, they own it. They can track your own device.

[Lewis]

It's kind of like how.

[Mike]

Yeah, just like a car. You release a car, there's a tracker. There's two or three trackers on every.

[Jay]

Car, so you can't turn them off.

[Lewis]

I didn't know that.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Lewis]

I didn't know anything about the phone.

[Mike]

Yes, it's a phone owned by the gut, that's owned by Apple until you pay off or AT T or whatever.

[Jay]

Yeah, but hold on. So we're getting used to tracking each other, and now the government center, laughing, going. Once we get them used and addicted to tracking each other and happen to be able to look where they're at, and they don't know where they're at. You know, it's like parents are tracking kids that are 18 years old. And I'm like, what are you doing? You're assuming your day, wondering what your kids are doing, where they're at. Like, like, let's let them have their privacy and do what they want to do in life, Right? So this phone, I swear to you, as soon as I get in my car and I turn my vehicle on, it tracks, and I have all my stuff off, I opt out of everything as I possibly can. And it'll say home, because they know my patterns throughout the day. So like when I'm getting it like 4 o' clock, they know I'm getting my truck and most likely going home. It'll say the best route is 66 Ave and you'll be there in 30 minutes. And I'm like what?

[Lewis]

You're like super convenient.

[Mike]

Every time I get in the car.

[Jay]

Does it not do that every time? So then to take it even a step even further so we can sit here right now and I opt out all this stuff and say hey, you could pick something we never talk about. And next you know we're going to get ads popping up non stop of everything that we didn't talk about and it's like, well I didn't ask for that.

[Lewis]

It's convenient.

[Jay]

No, it's very convenient.

[Lewis]

I'm gonna use this route. Thank you. But yeah.

[Mike]

And that's what like you wanted to talk about. The geofencing system was for Google to know where you're at. They, they know what aisle you're in at the store, they know what you're looking at when you're, when you have, when you're standing in the store. They go he's on aisle nine of Publix looking at diapers and this brand. So we're going to push him. Ad for diapers.

[Jay]

Is that how they get the ads?

[Mike]

That's exactly it. They know exactly where you are at all times. It's called geofencing. We used it for search warrants and to track criminals. They pulled back. Now Google has stopped cooperating with the government more. But that's what it was designed for was they know where you are and what you're looking at in the grocery store. And they go let's push them over here to this aisle. There's something on sale, we want them to see it. And they're constantly updating that stuff.

[Lewis]

Well would you, would you argue that for safety for your kids or for your loved ones no matter if they're adult or not, Would you argue that locations on as good or would you just do you really want to live in like 1999 where you grew up.

[Jay]

Without it and you're fine. Your parents grew up without it. Their parents grew. That's fine. The thing is about it is, is the government is slowly putting this on to us to where we get so custom to doing it that when they implement it on us we're just like, oh, we do it anyways. So it's a bigger shock when they just say China says this is what we're doing. They put it on us slowly. And slowly. And before we know it, it's just like federal prison. So they would do like small little things. Small things. So then when they implement it, we've been already doing it. We don't have that big of a pushback. But if they came in and just said, this is what we're doing, everybody be like, we're laying down, like we're using everything you're.

[Lewis]

It's easier to just do what you've already been doing rather than.

[Jay]

So they're taking our rights away slowly but surely and we're allowing it to happen. And then they're sleepwalking us just. I mean, they're literally walking us to the grave of everything that what it is. And we're watching it go down in other countries. But what they do is they give us a little bit of the social media, they give us a little bit of life. They, they fanbooze us over here. It's like, it's like the media, if you ever notice. I follow some of these people say every time that there's some type of a crisis, pay attention to what Congress laws they're passing. So they create these crisis and have the news push the narrative and look.

[Jimmy]

At how fast they can get that stuff written.

[Jay]

Yes and no. It's already written.

[Jimmy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jay]

Waiting to put it in. So it's just so funny at 12 o' clock at night when everybody's not paying attention because they're too busy watching some shooting on TV or something. They're passing laws.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I mean the thing about it is like I came out and I'm freaked out about the whole facial rec. I'm just like, dude, what the. And they're like, you can't. You have to do it to fly. I'm like, that's crazy.

[Mike]

The other thing is, you know Google, Google owns like 200 companies. So like I would have people go, we're right in the geofence.

[Jimmy]

Warm.

[Mike]

Well, I don't use Google. I have an iPhone. Like, cool. Do you have YouTube? Oh yeah. Who owns YouTube? You're logged in your YouTube, it's tracking your phone. You're logged into your Gmail account, it's tracking your phone. You may have all Google stuff turned off having not have not an Android like Jimmy, but have an iPhone. But like PayPal. Like PayPal. There's other apps that own and they try.

[Lewis]

Well, that's why you have it.

[Mike]

Every time you open one of those apps, what does it say? Can I use your location for this minute?

[Lewis]

What if you say no?

[Mike]

You can say no.

[Jay]

It doesn't matter. Still tracking it, they're getting. Because they get busted all the time. Then they just get busted for doing this and lying to us.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, they.

[Lewis]

They get.

[Jimmy]

But they get hacked all the time. And it's like, oh, there was a big leak of metadata from this company or that company. Your bank does it, for Christ's sake.

[Jay]

No, no, they do, but, you know, you got to think of this way. So they're worried about Tik Tok, right? Oh, we're way. We're worried about Tik Tok giving all our information to China. Facebook and all these other companies are selling our data to everybody around the world. They're doing it on a way bigger scale. But the problem of it is, is they're lobbying Congress and their Americans, so they're allowing them to do it, and they don't want another country profiting.

[Mike]

And then how about. This is kind of breaking now, but how about all the issues you're having with the license plate readers? They found that these license plate reader companies, their data is not being. It's not. It's being breached and that they're able to. The companies are able to track your location, your car very easily. So Flock is the main one that's getting cut by most agencies that. Because their security so bad that people are able to get into the system and actually track their girlfriend, track to anybody they want. And there's other companies that do it. Axon, the real devil is coming around with it. There's Recore, there's Motorola still does all that stuff. I mean, Block is being compromised.

[Jimmy]

So let me ask you a question, because I've never asked this before. Your. Your body cam, the Axon body cam, does it give a geolocation?

[Mike]

Yes, absolutely.

[Jimmy]

So your.

[Mike]

Your Taser does. Your body cam does everything. Does your.

[Jimmy]

Your car.

[Jay]

Yeah, satellite.

[Jimmy]

That's right. All interactions.

[Mike]

Axon is created as such a monopoly there. They have server. You have a server and a hotspot in your car. Your car is a driving hotspot. This. Your car turns other people's cameras on. If your lights are on, your Taser turns other people's cameras on. As soon as you get in the car now, it instantly goes right up to the. It's gone.

[Jay]

It's there.

[Mike]

It knows everything about every device and what we talked about before. And I don't care what cops think, that body cam is recording you. If it's on, it's recording 24 7, even when you're not hold on doing anything.

[Jay]

Let's take this even further. So why do you think all TVs went smartphone? Why do they have cameras? Why does a, a TV have a camera that you never use?

[Mike]

I think there was a story that did.

[Jay]

I'm going to tell you why. Yeah, I was in a fed case. So when you're in a fed, you get to see all the big stuff. When, when I was in, I read a case where this dope guy, a big case, they could never infiltrate him. He ended up getting a new tv. They turned the camera on and the mic on was listening. They can see wherever the TV station, they would see what they could see in it. But the mics, just like in a phone, it's notorious to leave your phone. That's why they always say leave your phone outside. Even big corporations, because CIA and other people tap phones to listen.

[Jimmy]

Unless you're doing. Can I talk about that? I mean, unless you're doing an ar.

[Mike]

Well, you know, we have soft the shirt like our bugs, you know, back in the day we carry garage door openers and beepers. There's. You jailbreak an iPhone, you put a program in it and you can power the iPhone off. It's not off. And no, yeah, this is still recording. So that's why drug dealers now like leave your phone. Don't come inside with any electronic.

[Lewis]

Well, what's, what's the difference between law enforcement be able to do it. And then I watched the Sean Ryan show. He had that seal that transitioned to a woman but then transitioned back and that, but that seal just happened at the time. The clip I saw was like, we, you can shut your phone completely down. We can still hear you now. I don't know if that's CIA technology.

[Jay]

It is, it is, but it's not even just a CIA, it's just a software. Because when you're in the feds and you read a lot of people's paperwork and they're like no, it's. And they're like, no, here you go, read the paperwork. And when I tell you the, that these they're doing it will blow your mind to the point where they're putting smart TVs in everybody's house just so they can sell the data. So it's not even for the criminal part. It's so they, they can get all the data and sell it. Because everything is all about selling data. That's all it's about now. So why is Samsung putting mics in a tv?

[Mike]

It's absolutely. The second you look at a Car ad or you look at a drill or you. Whatever. We talked. We did it the other day. Yeah, we talked about something like. Like the wall later. So, like, the walls and next, you know, we're both looking at our phone, and it's like, all the ad is Home Depot and all the available wall. And I'm like, we didn't type nothing in. We didn't Google search anything. We talked about it.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Like, y'. All. Y' all's ads will say Home Depot wall decorations. By the time. Yeah, by the time you leave here, they're.

[Jimmy]

They're deep into Babylon.

[Lewis]

They're checking.

[Jay]

They're turning off their phones.

[Mike]

Control, alt, delete.

[Jay]

So they. So the tag readers. My whole thing about a tag reader is I get why they're there, and I get that they have a lot of great purpose. But in. How is that not going against our. How should I say it? Like, our freedoms?

[Mike]

Well, a government owns a tag. Government owns a tag. And they can scan you. I can run every time.

[Jay]

I sent you. I sent him a post the other day. Listen to this crazy thing. So I sent him a post, and it says, you know, when your rights are being infringed on to what? I want to make sure I get the wording right. It's actually pretty interesting how this thing says a hunting license is what you get when the government takes your rights away. And I'm thinking, like, what do you mean? So when you get a hunting license, it means your rights have been taken away. And I'm like, where's this going? It says, then sells them back to you as a privilege.

[Mike]

The basic thing Americans did was hunt food.

[Jay]

I was like, are you serious? I'm like, dude, I sent it to Mike. Mike was like, amen. And I'm like, that hits so hard because it goes to show you it's one of our rights. It's something that to eat, we're allowed to do and everything else isn't.

[Jimmy]

The king's land and the king's deer that we have to hunt.

[Jay]

So why do we need a right to even fish? So we have to pay for. Right?

[Jimmy]

That was the first time Mike got jammed up.

[Mike]

My only arrest. Mike, my life.

[Lewis]

Yeah. I can't believe you got arrested.

[Mike]

I got a notice to appear in Louisiana. I was in the army for a fish that was like an inch too short. I don't even need it. I was just prepping. Prepping for a fishing tournament. So I was trying to put my best five fish together. And they. Yeah, they wrote me an NTA went, paid the fine. And when I went to get hired at beer police department, I was like, ever been arrested? No. They're like, what's this, buddy? Illegal fish. And I'm like, I didn't go to jail. They wrote me a paper and I paid a fine so it was considered a misdemeanor arrest. So I'm a criminal just like you.

[Jimmy]

Hey, you don't need a jury trial for that. Just three years.

[Mike]

Yeah, I took my dad to jail. My dad was with me. They took my dad to jail.

[Jay]

What?

[Mike]

Yeah, because I was local and I was in Louisiana. He was visiting from Florida.

[Jay]

Fish. That was an interesting there and made.

[Mike]

Him pay the fine at the spot.

[Jimmy]

These are the king's fish.

[Mike]

That was Vernon Parish Wildlife.

[Jimmy]

Whatever the.

[Jay]

I mean, you see the whole thing going on, this property tax thing here in Florida, and it's starting to create this as, you know, debate about how we work our whole life to pay this house off to never own it.

[Mike]

Yeah, we're talking about that last week.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, last week.

[Mike]

The 50 year mortgages that are just now, you pay like a million dollars for a 300, 000 home.

[Lewis]

Because I, I again, I should stop watching Sean Ryan. I don't even watch, I watch Cliff. But Tucker Carlson was against the 50 year. He's like, people will never truly own.

[Jay]

A home and then we don't truly own it anyways.

[Lewis]

Well, that's a good point. That's what Sean Ryan was saying is at least now people can at least quote, unquote, get a mortgage because they wouldn't have been able to.

[Jay]

But they've already done the math. Look, they, how they did the math. So between the 30 and a 50, it only drops like a hundred dollars a month.

[Mike]

I mean pay like $300,000 more.

[Jay]

Yeah, you pay 300, 000 more, but it drops like 150 bucks. They already did the breakdown on a bunch of people did it.

[Mike]

Come on. Who runs the banks?

[Jimmy]

Where's CC At?

[Mike]

Yeah, who runs the banks?

[Jay]

We don't know.

[Mike]

How can you imagine? It's the American dream to own a home. And we're going to sell you the home for $300,000, man. Jason, congratulations, man. You're gonna pass back seven, you know, and you're gonna struggle to make that payment, but we're gonna make one and a half times your money to own your American dream. And just about the time you're ready to die, you'll own it. Then you can leave it to your kids. Like, isn't that, is that great or what? I mean, that sounds like a American dream.

[Jay]

That's.

[Jimmy]

That's a. It's a scam.

[Mike]

It is a scam.

[Jimmy]

It is a scam.

[Mike]

And the fact that you can't loan shark and it's illegal, but a bank can loan shark you for your house. And it's.

[Jay]

Hold on. See the who. You see where Trump's went in the Supreme Court about being able to fire the Fed chair.

[Mike]

I did. We talked about that.

[Jay]

So do you realize that now that's showing that that bank is not. It's gonna, like, open up the whole door of why that bank is allowed to control the other banks and print money when other banks can't. Yes, because now it's showing that it's not independent or whatever it is. I'm reading a whole article on it.

[Lewis]

We got to do super chats. Sorry for not reading them because they're kind of out of context now. We'll do better at that. But they took their. CC says they took their pews in. In 30 years. Now they'll get smoked for liking a post. Also, we won the war. And the flag is called whatever the we want. Yeah, he said only way not to get tracked is Faraday bags. The.

[Jay]

Does that mean you pick your phone in a bag?

[Mike]

Do you.

[Lewis]

We think that works.

[Jay]

I don't think so.

[Lewis]

Put it in a bag. They can listen to you while your phone's turned off. But a bag will stop it.

[Mike]

It's supposed to stop all signal from going through it. We do that when we take them in a search one. There's a special room that's sealed and you have to, like, put it in that sealed room.

[Jay]

That's why.

[Lewis]

That's like telling me. I mean, I know I'm gonna piss off a lot of people, but that's like telling me that signal is secure.

[Jimmy]

It's more secure.

[Lewis]

More secure than Snapchat.

[Mike]

No, that's what I just told you. Think about order to even remotely signal.

[Jay]

Brother.

[Mike]

Order to remotely stop the signal. You have to put it in a bag in a room that's like a. A bombshell. A bombshell. Then maybe it won't be able to receive.

[Jimmy]

The only. The only thing signal is. Is helping you with is keeping. It's hard to hack, it's hard to get into, and it doesn't have a. It doesn't have a back door unless you're.

[Mike]

The signal is for people who want that message to delete very quickly and they want to tell you, look, except to that I can't do nothing about it.

[Jimmy]

It's very encrypting.

[Lewis]

It was told me that signal deletes but there's. They can be found if everything can be. That's what I'm saying. The Patriot act pretty much says that anything can.

[Mike]

Well, I know for a fact that like Kick and like text me those Canadian companies, they don't, they won't cooperate. Like we get swatting calls and I've.

[Jay]

Had.

[Mike]

Tips with those numbers and they, they will not cooperate. If it's out of Canada, they don't cooperate.

[Jay]

Yeah, because who owns it probably.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well the Canadians are, you know, they're becoming less and less. I mean. Okay, well, are you talking about.

[Jay]

Let's get back, let's get back on the thing about this. So the people that have the back doors to these channels and everything else is not our governments CIA. So you have to realize is that we can't question them. We don't get to see their books, we don't get to do nothing.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jay]

It's just, it's coming out about how so. I mean the drug shipment, boats getting blown up. So why do you think they're making that depression?

[Mike]

Something else is going on.

[Jay]

Because the thing is, is what's the best way to sell? If we sell that, we're going to war with Venezuela because the China deal, people are going to be against it. But if we can paint the picture that they're polluting the country with drugs, more people are acceptable to accept what's going on.

[Jimmy]

But, but here's the other thing, Jay. And you know this better than anybody who, who really started the drug trafficking trade in the United States.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

Well, they're still running. So why.

[Jimmy]

There's so much.

[Jay]

Hold on. Why are they pushing back so hard? Why now is it pushing back so hard? And they're going after Pete even though that it shows he had nothing to do with it, they're still doing it and they're still fighting this so hard because what did Trump do? He stopped in the money laundering scheme because the banks are the ones that are laundering all the money for the cartels through the CIA. And the CIA is the one that funds how you think they fund. So I'm, I'm pretty close. I'd say I'm close to Rick Ross and his boys. The original Freeway Rick Ross that worked for the CIA. So I get the talk.

[Lewis]

She meant the rapper.

[Jay]

No, no, no, no, the original one.

[Mike]

I know he's from Florida.

[Jay]

So come on the show Rick, the really the real Rick Ross, he Probably.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Jay]

We can probably. I can get him on most likely. I can get him on here.

[Mike]

You're gonna get him on a bunch of cop white cop dudes. So that push the envelope.

[Jay]

So the thing that it boils down to is I have another guy that worked for the CIA also running drugs. And the thing is, is they use people to do this to fund their proxy wars. I mean it's a proven fact that they're doing it and why not do it on their own thing? So then what was it politicians just said? Like oh, who cares? Like why are we blowing boats up that are going to Europe? We don't care about them. It's not about that. It's about the oil refinery thing in China being in, in, in Venezuela. That's what it boils down to.

[Jimmy]

That's exactly.

[Mike]

You say war on drugs and social helicopter repellent onto a.

[Lewis]

Did we ever save that video? Oh yeah, we got it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's. I, I sent the link to Lewis.

[Lewis]

Yeah. So going.

[Mike]

I don't know if he's on his game. Let's see if he can get going.

[Lewis]

Into the Venezuela talk. The coast guard do they. Are they calling it a rest.

[Jimmy]

Piracy. So there it's an anti piracy operation.

[Lewis]

Is this a. Is this a U. S. Law enforcement thing or is this a military thing?

[Jimmy]

So this is military provided the muscle, but law enforcement. But Coast Guard was running the mission.

[Jay]

Bonnie's behind it because they tagged this ship. If you see the new reports, they tagged a ship as a terror ship years ago.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jay]

It funds terrorists through the oil or whatever. So that's why they were able to.

[Jimmy]

Claim this maritime law. Right. That's why you need the Coast Guard because there's maritime law involved. And this goes all the way back to the Barbary pirates, you know, from, you know, to the shores of Tripoli, part of the Marine Corps, you know, and all the way up to 2020. We have every right under maritime law if we suspect them to be involved in smuggling or piracy to seize that oil, seize that ship.

[Lewis]

Take.

[Jay]

It's in our, our area here, where you want to call it the western hemisphere. Anything that goes on in the western hemisphere, we get to police everything, no matter what. It's a law that we have. So you got to think about it.

[Lewis]

What.

[Jay]

So we're, we're shutting off the. Venezuela's president by shutting all his drug trade down. So the CIA's laundry money through it. The party's conservative and Democrats are doing it through that country. So what's the Best way to do it, shut down all the drugs coming out there. We don't care about everywhere else. They're like, well, yeah, but all these other. But doesn't matter. We're putting max pressure just on this country alone. So we're going to shut the drugs down. So what's the next biggest import of theirs, money wise, is oil. So let's shut all down. Let's surround their coast, keep all the oil tankers from coming in, going out, and we'll shut all the drugs down. So what do we do? We hurt the country. It's just, it's the CIA operation 101 to kill, you know, like to starve them to death. And that's what we're doing. I mean, you can say what you want to say. It's just that fact that now all of a sudden we're taking chips. It's. It goes to the first thing. Drugs were the number one. Oil is number two. We're going to shut both of them down. We'll bring the country to their knees. And you heard what Trump said yesterday. We're coming after you in Colombia next.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Lewis]

Let's play that video.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Lewis]

Does it have sound?

[Jimmy]

No, no. This is FLIR footage.

[Jay]

How nervous would you be, I mean.

[Lewis]

If Navy SEALs were fast roping onto your ship or if you were the Navy seal?

[Jay]

No, I was a Navy SEAL because look how open they are. Or you think they had snipers everywhere.

[Jimmy]

Oh, man, they're those guys. By the time they're getting ready to.

[Jay]

Do that, I mean, look, they're open targets right now.

[Lewis]

Well, this is. They practice this a lot. This is an actual routine training.

[Jay]

No, I get that. But damn, they're wide open.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, that was why SEAL team exists.

[Mike]

Tanker sees like three or four Blackhawk. They're probably like, yeah, we probably shouldn't shoot one of these guys. Yeah, we're probably. If, you know, if it was a Somalian in a canoe with a motor on the back, maybe they might take a run at them. But, you know, I don't point.

[Jimmy]

You start shooting. It's like, dude, we're on 100 billion barrels of crude.

[Mike]

We could just sense this where it said to like one missile and that thing's. That'll be the biggest video Trump post up. I do like how he. Trump talked about it, though.

[Jimmy]

There it is. We're potato.

[Lewis]

Oh, it happened again.

[Mike]

Is it the same time?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, as soon as we brought up the video and came back. We are literally how much time? We are 41 minutes in so there it is.

[Mike]

Doesn't make sense.

[Lewis]

No, it's not the worst. It's not. It's been way worse.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So anyway, so Trump did the old Shane Gillis. It's the biggest boat. Biggest boat ever. The beautifulest boat we've ever seized. Like, he did the whole Trump thing and played it up. So, yeah, it's tough to really, obviously, with no idea what's really going on. I mean, there's. There's a master plan deep in there. We didn't all of a sudden decide that war on drugs was going to be the most important, you know.

[Lewis]

Again.

[Mike]

Again. Yeah. All of a sudden.

[Lewis]

Always seems to be when we have a narrative to push or a motive behind it.

[Jay]

I mean, yeah, we're slowly coming back. We're not gonna. We're never gonna stop it. They have no intentions to stop it. And I don't know how. Just like in prisons, no matter how hard they try to stop drugs in contraband coming in, it's impossible. It's impossible. And you're thinking, like, how in the world. It has fence, two fences, surveillance, a patrol car has everything going on, and we're still got everything we wanted. I had a cell phone behind the fence for, like, four years, and I've watched every drug you can possibly to the point where they're actually melting the stuff down, doing something, put it in the paper, soak in the paper, extracting it, and turn it back into powder again.

[Lewis]

All right, what's. What's. Oh, do we have Dom on? I thought we had him on. I thought he was in the lobby.

[Jay]

No, he didn't join at all.

[Lewis]

Oh, maybe it's hard when he's 1130. He sometimes thinks it's 1230 Central.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

He's gonna be announced last night. My new co host on Hot Topic starting next week. All right, that should be. Should be very interesting.

[Lewis]

One of Mike's five shows. He has. Yeah. You had good numbers last night. Yeah. Was that. Is that a regular thing?

[Mike]

It's been. That's why I was upset Jordan was leaving it. It has grown to. We were about 40 or over 40 last night.

[Lewis]

I think if you and Dom, because we're all new to this, like, no matter what, a couple years. We're all new to this podcast. I think, Jay, you get it more than anybody. Nothing's personal when the cameras turn on. And Dom. Actually, I lie. You and Dominic understand this. If you sit there and agree with each other and talk with each other the whole time, and there's not one point of Disagreement, it's not entertainment. So I think if you and Dominic just.

[Mike]

No, we disagree.

[Lewis]

We go but like, but and naughty. I wouldn't even say, but I have to disagree with you there. I wouldn't keep it like ABC News. I would be like, you know, wrong dude.

[Mike]

Because yeah, he doesn't get his feelings or we've had, we've gone at it. I mean he tells us too.

[Lewis]

He's like, do not agree with me with everything.

[Mike]

Well, I mean, I don't agree with. I don't have to try. I've told him. I like, we just. And that's where like I'm glad you brought that up. Before he comes on the segue is some of the heat we got in that reel too, dude.

[Lewis]

Okay, so what Dominic said was I disagreed with him and I. He said, what are the chances of a guy running from you, shooting behind like this and actually hitting you. So then I thought about it because a lot of people were mad about that. He had. There was three people talking in a clip. Two people said, I disagree with you, but the whole law enforcement vagina group was mad that he had the balls to say that. And I said last night in a comment, I said the reason why it's a topic is because although statistically extremely low, it is a possibility and it can't be ignored that somebody running turns and goes like that. We're talking about the cop voodoo that somehow.

[Jay]

Who did, who did the. You're talking about.

[Lewis]

We're talking about a case we were reviewing.

[Mike]

There's a kid in Jacksonville. There was a. A series of events that led to a 14 year old kid running from a car that the cops thought had just done a drive by shooting. And the kid is running and reaching and he did have a gun on him, but he didn't pull it out. And the dude smoked him in the back.

[Jay]

I thought he didn't.

[Lewis]

Oh no, no, he didn't have it.

[Mike]

Didn't have a gun. The other one. There was a second scenario where the guy did have a gun. He did not have a gun, but it was a. Coming from a KIA that was reported to be involved in a drive by homicide. And he's reaching his waistband as he's running behind him and the dude smokes him.

[Lewis]

Whether you agree with that whole case, it's. We were talking about the reason why is because if someone's running they can put like go like this. And you know, it is, it's. We talk about the copy where it's.

[Jay]

Like doing the hood a lot.

[Lewis]

The Chances we always joke, like, of course, the cop gets shot in the toe and bleeds out where they can shoot each other in the head and live somehow.

[Jay]

Well, she's like a DUI person. They always win.

[Mike]

Here's what I can.

[Lewis]

Here's.

[Mike]

Here's what I confused it with. And we'll break this down tonight. San Diego just paid out the largest settlement in history of police settlements. They paid $30 million.

[Lewis]

To who?

[Mike]

To a black male with a gun on him.

[Lewis]

He lived.

[Mike]

What happened? No, he died. They played his family. There was the cops walking down the street. We'll break it down, so tune in tonight. Here's the gunshots kid brings, breaks the corner. Cop says, get on the ground. Stop. The guy gonna kind of runs around him. The cop plugs him in the back and kills him. He had a gun on cop didn't see it. He was actually being shot at the kid, and he ran. And they ruled that the shooting was not justified and awarded the family 30 million quick, too. Like six months. $30 million. So it's like. It's almost identical to Jacksonville's, except when in Jacksonville, the kids jumping out of a car that was stolen and. Or used in a homicide. This one all the cop. Literally worst place the guy could be in. He's walking down the sidewalk, a cop. And here's the culture, shooting at each other. And a black kid comes around the corner, and he's like, dude, what are you doing? Like, he's like, stop. The dude just runs around him because he's getting shot at, and he shoots him. And they awarded him $30 million to the family. Oh, and he was armed.

[Lewis]

That does. Doesn't sound like a good shoot, though.

[Mike]

It's very similar to the Jacksonville, except you had no idea what had occurred around the corner. Imagine being that cop that just heard a gunfight around the corner and a dude being involved.

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, have you seen what's going on in New York? The guy they picked to do the communities patrol thing or whatever, the. He's a convicted felon.

[Mike]

Like, mom, Donnie picked him.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

What happened?

[Mike]

Donnie picked, like, a community control guy that's a felon.

[Jay]

Let's not even say felon. We're talking worse.

[Mike]

I mean, just like part of the New York. He got to be, like, a liaison.

[Jay]

Yeah, yeah. So they, like, picked this dude that's, like, hates cops. I think he fought a cop or did something to a cop, and they put him into place. So my whole thing about this of being a criminal and seeing how this. It's never going to get good. I think this is just going to get worse and worse because you're hiring people now. Law enforcement's hiring people that shouldn't be in that position. They're scary. Too scared and criminals are getting too crazy. And you're starting to see, you know, like, people are like, I don't want to be shot. I don't want to be killed. I want to go home. And yeah, he's getting a point where I get pulled over. Now they're doing like so much more and making you feel a certain way. And it's just like, damn, dude. Now I can understand, like get pulled over in a certain neighborhood. If you don't follow every exact little thing that they ask, you can pretty.

[Mike]

Much almost don't go read. Yeah, you've seen those videos.

[Lewis]

The best way to give the cops your wallet.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got the wallet in their hand.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Mike]

It goes both ways. And that's where I think I get on these cops that are on tick tock and playing around. Because imagine you're making those videos in the prosecutor or a defense attorney has that to reference and go, this guy didn't take his job seriously. That's why I shot my client. Because he's not prepared. He's dancing around on video. And that's part of my argument with that.

[Lewis]

Did you see that? Kenny sent it to me. But the guy that shot his partner in Chicago was like a tick tock cop. Did you know that?

[Mike]

I didn't see that one.

[Lewis]

No. He's all over. Somebody compiled all this dumbass videos.

[Mike]

That's what I'm saying. And then the worst one was the one you saw, the one that I posted in Hempstead Police Department. Right? Hemet Police Department. The six seven video. Oh, boy.

[Lewis]

Oh boy.

[Mike]

Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Lewis]

That was it.

[Mike]

It's bad. You want this one's bad.

[Jay]

Yeah, send that one.

[Mike]

This is, this will be the re. This is my reasoning for this is a good video to show everybody.

[Jay]

Yeah. But here, think about this. Uneducated people. They see these videos where these people get pulled over and they're filming and they're just talking cash to the police. I don't got to do this. I don't go do that. D And they just happen to be in one of those states where the cops can't do anything. Because there's some states that cops can't even really do any.

[Mike]

I heard like New Jersey or something northeast.

[Jay]

Like they can pretty much say, like, yeah, I'm not getting out of the car, and the cop has to just let them.

[Lewis]

I'll tell you what. Here in Florida, technically, you can. But now a supervisor is going to go, all right, so I pull you over, you roll up the window. I'm like, dude, get out of the car. And you're like, man, you're not complying. I call my supervisor. Because no cop nowadays is gonna just. Without a supervisor. Supervisor.

[Mike]

Good.

[Lewis]

You got anything on him? Like, is it.

[Mike]

Is it a real bad guy?

[Lewis]

No, it's just a. He's like, he's gonna go, let him go. It's not. Because it's not worth the camera's phone footage of you dragging some blackmail out of the car and beating the. Out of them all. Because even though you can doesn't mean you should. I think you should.

[Jimmy]

You should.

[Lewis]

But from your. From that sergeant on up doesn't want the heat.

[Mike]

No. None of them. None of them think they should. But it. It starts to create the.

[Lewis]

I stopped pulling people over for that reason because all they had to do.

[Mike]

Is say, I'm already a whole neighborhood.

[Jay]

They are.

[Mike]

There's already a whole neighborhood with no rules.

[Lewis]

Right. Is that New York?

[Mike]

No. Like, every, like, bad neighborhood has no rules.

[Lewis]

Every what neighborhood?

[Mike]

Every bad neighborhood.

[Lewis]

What?

[Mike]

So every bad neighborhood has no rules. It's kind of like a.

[Jay]

Any kind of hood. White hood, Mexican.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jay]

So people gotta understand it's the hood. It's the trailer park or the hood, whatever.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jay]

The thing is, is we don't follow the rules. Okay, so why should you follow the rules? You know, that's how I always looked at. And I always said, just said, don't plan nothing on me and I'll be fine. Whatever rules you break, because I broke them.

[Mike]

Let's go to, like, some South Alabama hillbilly redneck trailer park where they're like, we don't listen to the cops. They get away with that.

[Jimmy]

Clint is listening to this punch in the air. Right.

[Mike]

They get away with that. Right. They leave that neighborhood and they go to a normal part of town. They get pulled over. They say, you, I'm not cooperating, because in my trailer park, we don't.

[Lewis]

That cops, like.

[Mike]

And then he's like, what the. So outside of that neighborhood, we have to break the window and enforce that rule because they're going to keep coming out and it's going to get worse and worse and worse and worse. So it's kind of like the broken window theory. You cannot tell me you. You don't get to say no on a lawful order. And Then that's where. Just because that's where I disagree with Dom. It's just a blinker. It's just a traffic stop. I don't give a. What the violation was. If I have you legally detained. I tell you to listen.

[Lewis]

Dom is an advocate of.

[Mike]

He hates minor traffic violations and all that stuff.

[Lewis]

Let me ask you this, Jimmy. As a non cop in the room, you've never been a sworn cop. What do you think about when, you know, you comply, you get your ticket, you go to jail for whatever reason. Not you, but like you're a person that's complying. So you're subject to now the investigation, whatever it may be, as opposed to the people that don't comply and they don't roll down their window, they just to be let go, or the people that take off running from the police. The. The epidemic we always talk about, which is almost a joke. Just don't stop.

[Mike]

Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on. Is it just him? We're seeing people sound.

[Lewis]

We're good.

[Mike]

Okay, never mind. Keep going.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

Is it me?

[Mike]

No, we're good.

[Jimmy]

So, dude, I mean, like, I was listening. I'm listening to Jay and I'm going like, hey, he's right. Why. Why would I comply? Aside from the fact that I'm on a show with cops and you know, I'm going to go, yeah, I'm going to comply, guys.

[Jay]

And.

[Jimmy]

And you know, here's like, I've had great interactions with some PDS and I've had terrible interactions with highway patrol. Highway patrol has all.

[Lewis]

I think we've all. Mike's had bad interactions with highway patrol recently.

[Jimmy]

It's.

[Mike]

It's. And that's why I hate the fact that everything can be so different in different parts of the country. I got a audio yesterday from a young man who, you know, Georgia is. They can fire you in Georgia for no reason.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Right to work. State right to work.

[Mike]

They can fire you.

[Lewis]

What's right to work?

[Mike]

Like, basically it's not. It's not right. It's.

[Jimmy]

It is right. It's right to work.

[Mike]

There's another name for it. It's no will or something.

[Jimmy]

Basically, it means that they can fire.

[Jay]

You for any reason unless there's a contract.

[Mike]

Yes, an employer and an employee have the right to quit either position at any given moment. So this dude got promoted and walked into the station yesterday unannounced. Captain, system down goes. Hey, man, you're gonna be fired at 4:00'. Clock. You can resign right now or be fired. And he's like, I just got promoted. I've been here two years. I'm one of the most arresting ages. He goes, yep, nobody likes you. So you got till four. I have, I have the recording. I have the recording. The recording of, he recorded it.

[Jay]

One person. Yes.

[Mike]

Consent.

[Jay]

Because I know that because he used.

[Mike]

To drive to Georgia. He said drive to Georgia to make his phone calls.

[Jay]

Did you drive five hours just to record my codependence for my legal case?

[Mike]

But he, that's, Imagine being that cop. Now you know, well, cops suck. They're all bad. Imagine being a good cop and, and everybody's eyes like Steve, self proclaimed hero. But this dude's doing his job. He walks in, they got, you got an hour. Turn your badge, Gudge in, nobody likes you.

[Jimmy]

You're fired.

[Mike]

You have no job, you're no family to. You can't feed your family. Good luck. What do you do?

[Lewis]

You can't sue them. What he's gonna do is he's gonna.

[Mike]

Go, I'm gonna go find another agency.

[Lewis]

That'S gonna make me happy.

[Jimmy]

And, and they all end and then.

[Lewis]

Another one after that.

[Jimmy]

And look how you can say like highway patrol don't around. Highway patrol are bad cops.

[Mike]

A lot of them are.

[Jimmy]

They are bad cops. I, I, yeah, take that picture. Clip that dude. Like, I mean I had nothing but bad interactions with fhp.

[Jay]

No. So I mean think about this. So my job, I just was on a like podcast to talk about like one of my hustles in prison was to with police to be in their face. So one of my hustle was, is to be that guy that's in their face popping off at the mouth because I'm distracting them. I'm the one that's going cover for everybody else in prison. Okay, so I'm in prison and when the COs come in or the police come running up, I'm the person that gets in their face.

[Lewis]

I love how all of them are police.

[Jay]

Yeah, they're all, they're all poly. No matter, it doesn't matter. They're all police. So I'm in their face. I'm the, I'm the first line of distraction in their face because I talk, I'm just so they're, they're like, all right, just after a while, first they think that I'm like the person or I'm trying to be defined or whatever. Then they realize, oh, he's getting paid. So once I get burned by the cops, I'm pretty much, I don't have that hustle. They gotta find Somebody else because they're just like, shut up. Get to the side and let me keep. And they know exactly where they're going. At that point I become the hand. I've become the person that carries the, the phones and all the contraband. Because now they know I'm. Yeah, so they know like I'm the distraction guy. They didn't know that. Now my job is. So yeah. So when, so when they come running in, everybody hands me everything and I got it on me. I'm literally in the post police's face talking and they're pushing me to the side to get to where they're going. And everybody's laughing and I'm like, see, I'm like, that's my hustle. So they don't know that until I get burned from a snitch. But in the streets, no matter what I do when I get pulled over, it's yes, everything. I don't put up a fight, no nothing. And you'd be surprised how many drug dealers because I mean most of your busts are what from traffic stops?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jay]

But most your leads and busts. So that's, that's, it's so funny. Like they're so against this and they don't want you all to do this but it goes to tell you that the government doesn't want you to crack down on crime. They want it to run rampant. And the number one stopping point to this would be traffic stops. Because I think what is it? What's the percentage of traffic stops turn in there?

[Lewis]

Well, there's a difference between do like he's saying doing the traffic stops.

[Jimmy]

I'm not talking about that.

[Lewis]

To do. Right. Tickets. Yeah, that. Because you could do traffic stops to write tickets or you can do traffic stops of find dope, guns and warrants.

[Mike]

I've stopped cars and pulled massive amounts of code out of it. And the guy had a warning from. And that's 20 minutes early.

[Jimmy]

That's.

[Lewis]

And if you've got a hat about.

[Mike]

This big many times he's most likely.

[Lewis]

Not looking for the hard stuff.

[Jay]

No.

[Mike]

And, and drug dealers are stupid by not being nice to the cops because most cops are like Jimmy said, they're just stopping you for. And they're too scared to even ask for consent to search a car. But by being a prick, you even the bad cops, you get them. This is really weird how he's acting normal everyday. Hey guy, your license is. You know, you're running a little fast. Yes or no, sir. But you're gone. Take your 300 ticket and go away.

[Jimmy]

Your ticket and go.

[Mike]

Not your 20 grams of cocaine.

[Jimmy]

Like F8. I mean, like, I am always polite because on the off chance you hate.

[Mike]

Cops, and you said it many times.

[Jimmy]

That I'm dealing with one of the good ones, because there are out. There are good ones out there. There are good ones in fh. I haven't found any, but I haven't found. I. I know one guy, one guy who's in fhp and he's. He's a good dude.

[Jay]

Become a cop and you're gonna end up like both these guys they were when they were probably cops because they dealt with and they quit because they're tired of being. And their life being miserable. So why you think troopers are good?

[Lewis]

They're.

[Mike]

They drink different water. There's something wrong with them. Yeah, there's something wrong. And I. I have been stopped by some good trooper. Just like Jimmy said, There is some level of whatever they do in that academy in Talahat, whatever that thing is, they. They lose, like, personality.

[Lewis]

That's the same thing. Like when someone comes right out of Marine Corps boot camp and you're like, who is this person?

[Mike]

I remember getting stopped by a trooper. He had no idea who we were. And I said, sir, I have a gun right here. License, registration. I'm like, I have a gun. He's like, good. I'll be right back. He never acknowledged, never cared. Like, I feel like I could have just pointed that. He didn't even pay attention to the fact I told him twice I had a guns. I'm like, dude, my gun. It was like, literally half out.

[Jay]

How do they get away with everything? They're never in the news.

[Mike]

My body cam.

[Jimmy]

Oh, all they. Yeah, they don't.

[Lewis]

Well, there's 50 states, so we do have to say before the comments hit, yeah, we are only talking about experience, mainly with fhp. Florida Highway Patrol, they don't have body cams and they don't have a lot of rules. So when FHP pits a car into a tree and kills four teams, because that happened in the last, I think, last year.

[Jimmy]

Yep.

[Lewis]

No one cares. They tried to hold him accountable. And I think the commissioner or whatever from Ford Highway Patrol is like, don't run.

[Mike]

They just killed the Tampa. Tampa just had it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

And it's like. It's like we always talk about, you can't be canceled if you're not threatened. So they tried. They were like, your trooper did this. And he was like, don't run.

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm. See, that's where me And Don would go way off. I agree with pursuits. I think you should chase.

[Jimmy]

I'm not even talking about that. I mean, like, I can give you it. I've got.

[Mike]

You're against.

[Lewis]

Why don't you get this thought out, Jimmy?

[Jimmy]

I feel like, dude, like, I had. I got involved in a vehicle accident, right? Guy ran a red light as I was making a left hand turn. T bone. Okay. It was my old truck. I love that truck. Okay. My truck. All the airbags are deployed.

[Lewis]

Were you able to get your Dale Earnhardt sticker off it and put it on your new truck?

[Jimmy]

Yes. That was a big part of the whole thing. Afterwards. Okay.

[Mike]

Get my sticker.

[Jimmy]

So I, I'm, I'm. I'm literally, I'm driving back from Orlando back to Tampa, and I pulled off the highway to get some McDonald's and smacked right hard.

[Jay]

I get all.

[Jimmy]

I've got McDonald's. I've got my gun in the car or my, my guns in the truck. My tools are in the truck. I'm afraid the truck's gonna catch on fire. So I grab my, my bag and I run over to where the McDonald's is and I put my stuff there, right. Call. I'm on the phone with Lily. I'm on the phone with insurance. Fa. The sheriff showed up first. Sheriff's were cool. FHP showed up to do the whole report.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And the guy's like, hey, come over here. It's like, FHP guy. I'm like, yeah, what's up, man? He's like, we have witnesses that said that you threw a bag of something into the wood line. And I'm like, there's 15 cameras here, dude.

[Jay]

Go.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, go. Go yourself. That didn't happen.

[Lewis]

I was getting rid of this gun.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, like, I'm like, are you kidding me? He's like. And he's like, right now you're being determined, detained because I believe that you are trying to hide evidence. I'm like, what?

[Lewis]

I'll be like, where am I gonna go? My car's on fire.

[Jimmy]

Exactly. Like, that's what I mean. Like, are you stupid? Are you stupid? That doesn't even make it.

[Lewis]

He had a chance to, like. Mike says he had a chance to play cop.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

He went with it.

[Jimmy]

And it was like, dude, come on, man. Like, I'm. I'm having a bad day already. And you, you're upset because I was like, the bag's right over there.

[Lewis]

Well, before we get to that. Yeah, your, your, your take. Do you believe, do you believe the cops should be able to pursue people.

[Jimmy]

Do I believe the cops should be able to.

[Lewis]

We've pretty much law enforcement done away with pursuits. That's why they all drive Ford Explorers rather than Crown six. Because they don't need speed anymore.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Do I think that they should be able to pursue people? I think radio beats your. Your. Your vehicle every day of the week, so.

[Lewis]

No, I know. No pursuits.

[Jimmy]

No, I. I think that you're. You're putting more people in danger with pursuits.

[Jay]

All right, let me tell you, sue, listen, here we go back to cops being cops. What people are you pursuing, Mike?

[Mike]

All of them. No.

[Jay]

What's that number one problem? What's the number one.

[Mike]

So we want the Somalians going, right? Are we going to select which ones we keep. We're gonna get rid of all of them, Right?

[Jimmy]

Are you telling me that you can't?

[Jay]

No, I research. I agree with you.

[Mike]

But the radio does not work because what happens in the hood, they turn three corners, they hop out and they run.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And they crash the car and they run. And then they do it again. And they do it again. And then they do it again.

[Jay]

Here's about it. You know who they are in there most of the time?

[Lewis]

No, you can't.

[Mike]

It doesn't hold up in our town. Yes. We live in a small town.

[Lewis]

But even if you know, you have to swear that it's. Yeah, that I saw. I knew it was J. I knew.

[Jimmy]

It was J. I know that orange hair.

[Lewis]

I knew that.

[Jay]

You know, and this will take it to the grave and shut your mouth and sit there and say, you know what? I know who it is, and I'm going to build a case. I'm going to bust his head. But the problem of it is, this goes back to what we talked about. The feds. The feds will literally have you on a case within six months. But they don't want five years. They want to get you on that 20 piece. So they'll watch you and allow you to go for five years doing all kinds of bad activities just to be able to get you for 20 years.

[Lewis]

But the average street cop isn't thinking like that. The street crimes guy wants.

[Jay]

But you begin. That's what I'm saying. The difference is, is that I feel like, is it worth putting other people's lives at risk? Because it's not. The CO that I'm worried about is the criminal that's running. Okay, so are we willing to kill, like, little kids and family members in a T bone intersection? You see how they Turn out so bad.

[Lewis]

I've always said this. Anybody that wants to weigh on it, cop or no cop, if you weigh on it, weigh in on it. I want you to think about the fact that if that bad guy or that cop careens into your family's minivan and kills all of them, do you still stand behind it? Well, no. Well, then you don't.

[Jay]

Okay, so. But hold on. When you get that vehicle, what's the first thing you do with that vehicle? Mike?

[Mike]

What? When we catch it.

[Jay]

Okay, so say they take off, the vehicle runs in somebody's house, and they take on feet, what do you do with that vehicle? As soon as you get it, you.

[Mike]

Secure it, search it, and then you're gonna tell it.

[Jay]

What else are you going to do to it?

[Lewis]

You're going to plant evidence? What?

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

No, that's what the dump.

[Jay]

He's gonna run fingerprints and DNA.

[Mike]

Never comes back. It's not like.

[Lewis]

Well, there's been like 80 kids in there.

[Mike]

Never, never comes back.

[Jay]

I have.

[Mike]

I've had hundreds of cars processed. I've had like two out of hundreds and hundreds.

[Jay]

That's new news to the criminals out there, guys.

[Mike]

Everybody assumes if you touch something, it's gonna.

[Jimmy]

Whose hair is this?

[Mike]

Guns, all that, and them not csi. Here's where you get the. The script flipped on you. Like, what can't we say as white people, all black people look the same, right? That's racist. What did the defense use? When a black guy gets out and runs, you can't tell what they look like. They all look the same. How do you know it's John Tavius? He's got dreads. So does he. So does he. So does he. They flip the script on you. You go like, I know, as a black male, his name is John Tavius.

[Jay]

He was running.

[Mike]

How do you know? I saw him. You sure? Like, they. They collude that thing for you. And then they say. Then they put.

[Jay]

I would let it go. See me as a cop. This is what I would do. I'd be like, okay, I seen who it is. I know who he is. Or, I've seen his face. I'm gonna find out who he is. And then you know damn well he's not gonna stop. He's in the game. He's going to continue to do it, and you're going to build a case against him.

[Jimmy]

I. I'm sorry. All of these arguments are specious.

[Lewis]

What's the. Why do you got. I swear to God, you pick a word every day. What specious mean?

[Jimmy]

It it's not based on any of the evidence that you just talked about. If AI is taking over everything and there's cameras anywhere, why would you need to search or chase people? We already know who it is.

[Lewis]

What?

[Mike]

John Tavius is 15. He's never had a Social Security number. He's never had a ID card. He's never going to have a driver's license. He doesn't know who his dad is. He doesn't know anything about. He can't tell you his date of birth. So you expect me to. For the government to know who he is? No.

[Jay]

Okay. So people like you said last week.

[Mike]

There are people that have never left the hood. They don't even know that Disney World is a real place. They don't know anything outside of those four walls. They don't know their Social Security. They don't know anything about anything.

[Jay]

Mike. I'm like Mystery Science, Mike. If three teenagers go and rob a car or steal a car and they're running around and you get on them and they take off, is it worth to put them in jail for stealing that car? The risk of killing somebody to tell me your ins and outs and why.

[Mike]

So here's the thing. I'm. I'm teared on this. The long pursuit, that goes very, very long. I agree. At some point it's like, hey, this. But I think we should be able to wreck the piss out of them. But right out of the rip.

[Jay]

No.

[Mike]

No agency.

[Jay]

I agree. I agree with that.

[Mike]

100. They don't do it.

[Jay]

I agree with that. 100. If you can be right there on them and t bone them and take them out, that's one thing. But if they start getting over 100 mile an hour, I feel like you need. But if you're close enough to do what you said, I'm for that.

[Mike]

All 100. And everybody's actually right. I'm playing the real hardcore role. You're right. With technology now we have lprs, we have the ability to get the helicopter up. We can watch from a distance depending on the crime. If it's a traffic violation, we're okay with losing the car. If it's a murder or somebody abducted a child, we're not okay with losing the car. So there is other options. But the problem is agencies don't do anything.

[Lewis]

The air thing, anything really does work. The air thing really does work if you have an agency big enough to have a bird on standby all the time and it's not always being used for crime. So if. If you got a Very crime ridden city and only one bird. He's probably busy that way.

[Jay]

Yeah, but the bird's not going to work in the hood. Like you said, they make three or four turns. Take out on foot.

[Lewis]

No, no, but they can follow it. And then as soon as, as soon as you spike the tires, it keeps following it.

[Jay]

How many turns?

[Mike]

Yeah, well, that's again, it's, it's going to be. My, my argument is it's going to be location dictated. That's the supervisor's decision to make. Okay, decision on how that, what do you do?

[Lewis]

Let's separate these pursuits. There's the inner city, 2 1/2 minute pursuit, stolen car. He's gonna bail out and be gone within 10 seconds. Then there's the guy that takes the long route home and that's on the interstate and there's like 12 cars behind him. Because I remember I would ride with my dad in like maybe 2002 and he like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, he would say, light this car up and he would back off it. And I go, why are you backing off? He's gonna get away. He's like, no, I back off because he thinks he has a chance of running. So he'll tip, he'll, he'll run if I'm right up on him. You remember telling me that if I'm right up on him, he'll get scared and he'll stop. He's like, I'm just trying to get a pursuit.

[Mike]

Well, I used to. So what I would do, I'm sure you've done this before. My other tactic in the hood was because we weren't allowed to light them up and chase them, I would just do the three inches from the bumper and they would take off without the lights being on. And then I would just call it. I was reckless.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And my camera would never come on because the lights weren't on. And then I would chase them for seven minutes, calling them reckless. They broke the law, dude. It's not dirty. But that's how we got away. I called them hood pursuits or next time. Which is what I can say. You just chased them and your camera never came on because they're looking to.

[Lewis]

Bail as soon as they, you're out.

[Mike]

Of car, you make eye contact, you drive by, you do the U turn, we have the chargers. Then I floor it, they floor it, we're done. We're through a backyard, we're talking through a canal.

[Jay]

And they're out the car.

[Mike]

And I would just call it in. Oh, I Got a reckless. Oh, he's running. And that would be my only transmission on the radio. Meanwhile, it had been six minutes around the hood, like all through the trees.

[Lewis]

And everything today, now.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got away with it back then. That's how we.

[Jimmy]

What about the grapple? You can always fire the Batman grapple.

[Lewis]

Do we have that?

[Mike]

People have them, but I've not seen. There's another dart that does. Like a cable.

[Jimmy]

It's like Batman.

[Mike]

It's pretty cool. But again, you gotta be able to get close enough to touch, you know?

[Jay]

Another video has been popping up on the feed. A lot about law enforcement is about how all these. These women are getting.

[Lewis]

They're.

[Jay]

I don't know why. It's just. I don't know if it's getting just because for some reason my feed's feeding it to me, or is it that women, like, offer sex to cops, to cops when they're getting. Does it happen that much?

[Lewis]

Never happened to me.

[Jay]

Never happened to you. What are you doing?

[Lewis]

You're ugly.

[Jimmy]

FHP.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean. I mean, drunk. DUIs.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Mike]

DUIs. Running her mouth, talking.

[Jay]

It's just because I'm 5.

[Mike]

I'm 5 11. That's why I'm 5 11. He's 5 9.

[Lewis]

Never happened to me.

[Mike]

Never once.

[Lewis]

I've had. I don't even. I've never had any criminals. I've never had anything valor. I've had a guy tried to tell me he was a war vet.

[Jay]

I'm gonna tell you right now, it'd be hard for me to turn it down. There's hot chicks hurt. Thanks. I'd be like, I still have a.

[Mike]

Chick that messaged me on Facebook right after my start doing my podcast that it's all in body camera. Accuses me of planting drugs on her. She went all the way to Ian Bix comment section of my podcast with him and started writing narrative paragraphs about how I planted drugs on her. I'm like, you stupid. Cortez. Her last name. I'm like, go pull the body camera. It's like, all on camera. And that shows me how delusional people are that they get in their head that it didn't happen that way. And imagine without a body cam, like, she's making this case. People are probably like, those guys crooked. I'm like, here's a case number. I'm like, if anybody want real, this one happened. Pull the body.

[Jay]

They would have been all bad for me. I'd have been like 300.

[Mike]

Well, the guys are doing it the Cops are doing it. They're doing exactly what you say. Oh, having sex with chicks. It's going.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay]

Are they also, or are they keeping it quiet?

[Lewis]

No. So what happened was he drove this girl, she offered him on camera. He shut his camera off, went into. They can still track his car even though he shut his camera off. He gets in the back seat, door closes behind him. Now he can't get out. I remember that radio, too. And the homeboy goes. He walks right up, opens the door, and walks away. Doesn't want any part of that. Doesn't want any to hear anything.

[Mike]

Did we talk Monday about the cell phone guy or is that to somebody? No, I talked about last night. They had a cop just get arrested. What he was doing is he was taking the girls phones, like, during this traffic stop. He was going through their camera roll while they're busy, and he was airdropping himself all their nudes. And then.

[Lewis]

Are you serious?

[Mike]

He just got arrested? Yeah, yeah, it was in Florida.

[Lewis]

What's the charge for that?

[Mike]

Like, voyeurism and unlawful transmission of, like, there's all them stalker laws now with, like, transmitting nudity and all that. But he was. Yeah, he was going through the phone, and he was just airdropping them right to his cell phone while he's on the traffic stop. And then, like, oh, you make sure your insurance card, I have to take it back here and look for. At your insurance for the ticket. He would go on the patrol car, and he would start downloading the nudes and sending them to himself. Then he finally got caught. Multiple victims.

[Lewis]

That sounds like something somebody would do. Yeah.

[Jay]

When I see a question, definitely.

[Lewis]

Wow.

[Mike]

Somebody other than me would do.

[Lewis]

Sound like somebody named Kyle.

[Mike]

Oh, yes.

[Jay]

I want to ask both y', all, when you were in law enforcement, when they ask you to do something that you're against, how did you handle that?

[Mike]

Like, they would say, I've admitted I've, I, I, I cra. Nothing stupid. But yes, it. It's hard. It's very hard.

[Jay]

So, like, is your lieutenant or higher up said, mike, we're gonna need you to go do this? And, you know, it's just totally wrong.

[Mike]

It'd have to be.

[Jay]

Yes.

[Mike]

You have to tell me what it is.

[Jay]

There's, I mean, there are times that they've said, because I'm gonna be honest, like, it goes back to my head. It's the COVID thing. Like, people protest in the streets, and then all of a sudden there's this gym owner open, and it's like, well, Go shut them down.

[Lewis]

You know, we never did that before Florida. I know, but you did.

[Jay]

I get it. You didn't do it here. But I'm just giving an example of like what I'm talking about. Is there any time that you're just.

[Mike]

The only time I could think of something like that is DUIs. Every cop tries to get their buddy out of a dui and you might get a call like, hey, man, that's. You know, that guy's so and so. And you know, from people.

[Jay]

People, yeah, that I would literally call up and be like, hey, my boys, are you on duty? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, well, listen, my boy's at Riverside and he needs to be escort.

[Lewis]

I got them, don't worry about it.

[Mike]

I'm like, perfect.

[Lewis]

Yeah, they don't do that typically anymore now because the cameras, if they crash.

[Mike]

You'Re literally with them, then it's 32nd minute loop behind. So you're gonna have to like sit there and let them burn for like a minute and then act like you pulled up on it. But your GPS is going to show you were already there. So there's really no way around that. But I know for a fact that is. I've had females tell me that they had cops that would very generously follow them home from bars and do that kind of stuff.

[Jay]

Just heard about one recently. Really?

[Lewis]

All right, we gotta cut your commercial, but we'll be back.

[Mike]

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[Lewis]

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[Mike]

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[Lewis]

This philosophy carried into veterinary medicine resulting in over vaccination, unnecessary surgeries and manufactured food.

[Mike]

Just like they did for people.

[Lewis]

They call it care, but it's predatory.

[Mike]

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[Jay]

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[Mike]

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[Jay]

Say, who was on the phone? They won't say.

[Mike]

They won't give up.

[Jay]

Nothing. No pictures, no nothing. It had what, 30 something.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Jay]

Cocaine on it.

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

What are you doing?

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

Wait.

[Lewis]

Put the logo back on there.

[Jimmy]

There you go.

[Mike]

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[Jay]

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[Mike]

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[Lewis]

It's.

[Mike]

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[Lewis]

So everybody wants a John Tavius shirt but they want it spelled John and then Tavius like but they want him dressed as like a doctor or a lawyer.

[Mike]

Maybe.

[Jimmy]

John Davis.

[Mike]

I think that falls under that website I follow says shirt designs I can't actually wear. Have you seen that one? Those shirts. I saw a guy the other day, he took the lacoste alligator, a certain flag and a certain flag and he turned it into.

[Lewis]

What we got to do is we got to do one of those. You know how they make their own hood rip shirts for. We gotta make one for John Davies.

[Mike]

I think the astronaut's pretty good.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that would have been an astronaut thing.

[Mike]

Would have been there's a meme going around with the. Some, like, astronaut. It says something on it.

[Lewis]

I don't know if I could make one of those hood shirts if I tried. They're so bad. They're good. Like the iron on, like.

[Mike]

I know you've seen them pick your car like that. Yeah. The whole. We had a guy get killed still unsolved. His name was Pooh was his nickname. He got shot. Double whammy. He got shot and he accelerated away from the shooting scene, went through a canal, and then launched and it decapitated him on a telephone pole as he was in the air. So he got the double whammy. But they put the mural up in the hood and had a Pooh bear and his face was, like, in it. And it was all that paint you're talking about.

[Lewis]

And.

[Mike]

Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

[Jimmy]

He would have been an astronaut. He was almost.

[Mike]

He almost wasn't. He got closer. He got closer to the moon than mine by getting 10ft off the ground. He got closer than most people.

[Jimmy]

Back to the Future theme is playing.

[Mike]

Rogan has recently been going heavy on the moon landing again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lewis]

He.

[Mike]

He ate.

[Lewis]

I got some good moon landing clips in there.

[Mike]

He ate it up the other day on a podcast again, talking about.

[Jay]

He doesn't believe it.

[Mike]

No, he does not believe it either.

[Lewis]

No, you can't.

[Mike]

I don't.

[Lewis]

Why haven't we been back?

[Jay]

Or have we not telling us.

[Mike]

What was he saying? He was saying something about I'm saving.

[Jimmy]

My energy for tonight.

[Lewis]

Well, we don't have. I'll tell you what. We can go moon landing if you guys want to today. I don't know if we'll have any time tonight.

[Mike]

Do we get Dom?

[Lewis]

I don't.

[Mike]

What's the surveillance video that's up there? Something you want me to pull up earlier? Oh, this? Oh, we never got to it.

[Lewis]

Okay.

[Mike]

This is the.

[Jimmy]

Nice job, Lewis.

[Mike]

Lewis.

[Lewis]

He's like, I'm on point.

[Mike]

I'm waiting for you to be talked earlier. This is a. This is a real traffic stop that was done and then posted to this agency's social media. I want you to watch it raw. Like Jimmy's raw right now. He's not drinking tonight. He's gonna be really raw. But I want you to watch this front to back. This is a Travis stop posted by this agency as pro community. Go ahead.

[Lewis]

All right, we got 67. 60. Hi, there, officer. I stopped you for going 67 and a 55. Do you have your license, registration, your insurance on you. Perfect.

[Jay]

Cool.

[Lewis]

All right, Chat. This gentleman's going to be getting a. She's on a chat.

[Mike]

I wanted you to pause it. I wanted you to sit. It's their body camera. When she says all right, chat, it lets the body camera know to like that's gonna be part of the report. So that part. No, she's not streaming. That was a lot of the heat. So people were confused. That's her talking to her body.

[Lewis]

Sorry, I'm breaking my own rules. I'm not shutting up until the video.

[Mike]

That's all right. I wanted. I wanted that to happen because as soon as everybody saw chat, the comments were this is on Tick Tock Live. She's not. It's her body camera. But go ahead.

[Lewis]

Evidently we've had a lot of fatalities on that roadway.

[Mike]

Evidently.

[Lewis]

In addition to that, his registration for the cars expires. He's also going to get a citation for that.

[Mike]

That is a fixed signal.

[Lewis]

All right, chat. So what's going to happen? You'll be issued a citation for 67 at 55. In addition to that, you're also going to get another one just for a.

[Jimmy]

Fix it ticket for the registration.

[Mike]

So go ahead.

[Lewis]

And what I'm going to ask is that you sign here. Initial or signature. It's not admission to gain your standard. And take care because you're going six, seven. Sorry, you guys are good to go. Just make sure to get the registration. Okay.

[Mike]

So. And their entire agency. The agency actually posted that as like a pro.

[Lewis]

That's pro.

[Mike]

Like that's. They thought it was cool. We're jumping on the trend of 6, 7. She just wrote somebody for 12 over.

[Jay]

12 over.

[Lewis]

And made a joke about it.

[Mike]

Made a joke about it. No compassion to listen to what the guys excuse whatever it was. And they're doubling down that it's just a joke. Like it's all on their side. So.

[Lewis]

So he got points on his license. A traffic taking all that just because they wanted to do a job.

[Mike]

Success. There's no. Unless you're a super. Can I say. I'm not gonna say C word unless you're a super C word. You're not writing anybody for 12 over. No goddamn cop is writing anybody for 1295. You don't look till 90 on 95 in a town. It's my. My rule is 15. If I looked up in the radar wasn't 15 over. You're going. I'm not even. Unless it was. Unless it looked like a suspect. Let's look Like a criminal. But they did that strictly.

[Jay]

What was your criminal look?

[Mike]

It looked like you. I followed you around. White guys with chains, black guys with chains. But yeah. So that is the most tacky. Can you imagine being those people in that car you just got put on blast on a massive. And it's got. It went crazy. It's got 50, 50, 000 shares. All that stuff. All the comments are negative. So what I did. Because I'm gonna. I'm an accountability person. I public record requested her last 30 citations for speeding.

[Lewis]

You did that?

[Mike]

I did that already. Okay, I want to look at this and go, did this super c. Do this just because of 6, 7 to be cute and write a ticket? Or does she historically. Historically right for 12 over. She historically does it. I have no problem if you want to be that butch of a dick and Write somebody for 12 over. But if this was only done for a Internet and it doesn't mean anything. It completely means nothing. If she only did that. She should be fired. She should be fired.

[Jay]

You know my first. What's your name?

[Mike]

I got the whole thing. I forget it. Cortez is her last name.

[Jay]

So the first impression I had, I was thinking like, how in the world she get this video? Did she like do this? She acts it and then she goes and does a public records to get it agency posted. I know, but I was thinking like, she really went and did this. She does all these things and then she makes the videos and then goes and does a public records request to get the video to put it on her. Tick tock. And I was like, dude, I know that I said. When I was watching it. I know. But I was watching. I'm thinking, like, is that. Well, that was another crazy.

[Mike]

We have another that follows. This isn't whole. His whole. The guy that blasted one of the guys that blasted you. That's all he does is request his own body camera and his buddy's body camera and has a whole YouTube page about it.

[Jay]

So you're allowed to do that.

[Lewis]

You can.

[Mike]

Gay as. But yeah, if that's what you want to do is jerk your own dick off on your. Your YouTube channel. You.

[Lewis]

Can.

[Jay]

We.

[Mike]

700 followers.

[Jay]

Can we. Can we go and mimic some of his things?

[Mike]

Oh, he's got really bad mustache. We can do some things, but like what? Like what?

[Jimmy]

Hang on, Mike.

[Mike]

What? No, no, he's really bad, but not that mustache. That'd be a bad one.

[Lewis]

So.

[Mike]

But that's what these people do. Yes. There are guys. You know, State Boys is the big One that does it. But State Boys, real good ally of the show and good friend. He's up in Michigan. He does it for everybody. Most of his videos are like, Arizona State Patrol, gsp. But then you have, like, some of the people that ripped him, which is County Boys is a big YouTube channel that ripped his logo, his exact spelling. They just do their own. And then this up in Ohio does his own.

[Lewis]

How do they. I mean, how does an agency. Even though you. All right, so you go. You're a cop. You go through the right routes. You request body cam because it's. It's public domain, right? So you can get it. And then you have a YouTube that. You can have one as a cop, and then you're able to break down your own videos. I would think any agency would be like, listen, dude, we can't have that narrating your own.

[Jimmy]

I think the fact that her agency put it out means she should never be fired. You clearly agreed to that.

[Mike]

That one, yes. But these other guys, I guess what you're getting at is like, it's just.

[Lewis]

Like the other guys, but they have strong units.

[Jay]

You're making content. So they're. So my thing. A problem is that. Is that how do you know that they're not pulling people over and arresting people just for content reasons becomes.

[Jimmy]

With this.

[Mike]

That's what. And. And that was my. That's one of the arguments people made with libraries. Like, you know, live PDS in the. We had some guys do some really boneheaded while live PD was filming with our agency. And I attribute a lot of those mistakes and dumb stuff to being on camera and going extra.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And doing dumb forming. We. I watched a complete Travis stop on our live pd. The guy violated every Fourth amendment right of the driver. I'm like, what is this moron doing? It's right on tv. Like, the canine didn't alert. He's like, oh, get over there. Like, there's just so bad. And I'm like. So I just like. It's kind of like it's. What is it?

[Jay]

Peacocking. Peacock is the real thing.

[Jimmy]

Happens to guys that are miked up in the NFL. Like.

[Lewis]

Like.

[Jimmy]

Like they'll be the quietest dude in the huddle. And then they get miked up, and they're like, all right, guys. They're trying to juice everyone.

[Lewis]

That's a good point.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's. It's. So this girl did that, and I. This is what happened. She got done, and she called the social media lady who I heard everybody hates at this Agency. She's allegedly like 51275 nicator. Love them. And she says hey, you're gonna want to pull this video. I just got the 67 on tape. That's exactly what happened happen. She contacts social media department.

[Jimmy]

Wow.

[Jay]

That's how.

[Mike]

How else would they know it happened? She calls them and says hey, check out this video. I just did. They make it. They have gotten murdered in their comments for it. It's absolutely well garbage. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Until you get better cops. I don't want to hear another conversation about pursuit because I don't want those chuckleheads pursuing anybody.

[Mike]

And she. If you go look at her, she's a torta 275.

[Lewis]

I hope you're.

[Mike]

No, no, not the cops. Cop is a torto as well. The other one's definitely a torto. But she's Portmer police Explorer Di Quick, quick right to the motor unit. And you go to their page and their page actually has some squared away dudes on it. But I'm told from people that work there that I've gotten a lot of DMS from that. The place just went woke and hired this lady. And now they're a joke. It only takes one video like that to stereotype your agency.

[Jay]

I don't know. I keep telling you this is the.

[Jimmy]

Time to be another shirt.

[Jay]

These are the times to be a criminal. Because I mean they're more worried about their Tick Tock videos than you know, absolute right.

[Mike]

You're absolutely right.

[Jay]

I could do it.

[Mike]

The kids that you. And that's why I get on you. But thinking that like they're smart enough to like know who you are. And I know you know, you want.

[Lewis]

You want to. You're big.

[Jay]

They tell me. But I'm telling you they're watching my videos.

[Mike]

Average new guy. Well, okay, okay.

[Jay]

They're watching. They're telling me, okay.

[Mike]

If you weren't on Tick Tock they wouldn't know who you are.

[Jay]

Exactly. But they're watching my videos. That's how they know who I am. You're right.

[Mike]

You're right. You're right. I get you're right.

[Jay]

And you could tell by the way when they pull me over and they walk up, up, they already know my name.

[Mike]

Wait till I get pulled up.

[Lewis]

Hey, Lewis. Check, check the one who's doing social media. Right? Right now all these agencies that, that are think they're jumping on the social media bandwagon. They think they're doing. Well, they're not. They're. They're run by people that are out of touch. They have no idea. You know who really is running a good social media campaign is Border Patrol. No.

[Mike]

White House. Yes.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

And the White House.

[Jay]

But Lewis go to Instagram saying crazy.

[Mike]

Seal Beach PD in California too. Seal beach, they make full blown skits for dudes that like run. It's the one.

[Lewis]

Tyler, right there at the very top. That one. Play that one whenever, whenever you're prepared.

[Mike]

I don't know if he's ever going to be prepared. Can you just close the whole window out?

[Lewis]

We got. I got you. I believe in you.

[Jimmy]

Hey, we're not live anymore.

[Lewis]

What?

[Jimmy]

I'm not kidding.

[Lewis]

You guys are.

[Mike]

I see the button.

[Lewis]

All right.

[Mike]

My problem. The mask.

[Jimmy]

Take it off. Negative. Are you ugly?

[Mike]

Quite the opposite. What's my problem?

[Lewis]

And there was. They're using other ones. They're using like remixes of Nirvana. And I'm telling you, we could pick on that all day. But that is cool. To the person that's never done that before, that looks cool. If I was 18 years old, I'd be like, that looks cool. That looks cool. Fat chicks writing six, seven tickets doesn't look cool.

[Mike]

No, no. Like I said, Pearson, local guy, he's in charge of the civilian side. He posts all those remakes of videos. He's out on the field, in with the field, out in the field with the guys that. He said one of his biggest problems when he took over was the brainwashed Biden. Four years or eight years they were. Or four years. They were all terrified to do anything. So he had to go around the country to all the border patrol units and go, go beat people up. Like drag them out of cars. Go back to doing it. They were like, oh, we can't do anything like that. So they've had to like really reprogram the minds of all those Border patrol agents because they were so suppressed. And now they're what, paying 20 grand to hiring bonuses? Like 20 grand.

[Lewis]

Are they doing well in retention? Because I know border patrol for a while had bad.

[Mike]

No, they're getting heat from like agencies like, hey, bro, you're taking a lot of people.

[Lewis]

People like. Yeah.

[Mike]

Guys are. Why wouldn't you want to go do that?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The only thing you have to worry about is in if Trump, you know. Yeah. Somebody doesn't win. Yeah.

[Jay]

Then you're.

[Mike]

What's, what's worse after you go make 120 grand to sit under a tree.

[Lewis]

Well, they, I mean, a lot of people don't want to be at needs and go sit in the desert somewhere near Mexico. You Got to do like your first couple years.

[Mike]

Yeah. Usually I'll. Same with the agents. They send them to El Paso most of the time for the first. Their first deployment.

[Jimmy]

And then you need to know the espanol, which I'm not gonna learn.

[Lewis]

You have to do. You have to. Spanish probably couldn't hurt if you're a white male.

[Mike]

You just talk like my buddy Nick. He just says, get out El caro. What's funny is he can actually speak some Spanish. And we would go to like, wow. Every morning, get our coffee before we start shifting. This like, homeless Spanish dude would walk.

[Jimmy]

In and start talking to him right along with bp.

[Mike]

With who? Border patrol.

[Jay]

Question. How hard is it to become an agent? Like, he's blinking.

[Lewis]

I'll fix it.

[Mike]

To be a DE Agent. Yeah.

[Jay]

Why doesn't.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jay]

So cops become cops because they like to. They see the videos and they do stuff and they become a cop.

[Lewis]

Right.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

You.

[Jay]

And you love the jump out boy stuff.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Why didn't you ever want to become a D?

[Mike]

I didn't wear a dress when I was a kid. I didn't wear a dress when I was a kid. Mostly agents are like.

[Jay]

So it's became. It's got that rep now.

[Mike]

Why would you want to be. I don't know what have you.

[Jay]

Yeah, I know. But they. They were ex military. They don't seem.

[Mike]

I would think on the. And I'm skewed on the high level of D. A. I'm sure there's some task force and some in some bigger cities. The DA Guys I worked around were betas. And it's just. They're so controlled by the government. There's no leeway. There's no rule, room to wiggle. It's. So in order to you go do a deal, there's like 97 pages of paperwork to get done and get the money. Like, dude, it ain't worth it. It ain't worth it. Let's just do it.

[Jay]

State.

[Mike]

Like, let's just do a state. There's too many rules. When I mean rules. I mean bad rules. And then makes you wonder how a.

[Jimmy]

Guy like Jay Dobbins and they have.

[Mike]

To have a degree. They have a degree.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Having a degree does nothing to make you a better cop. Zero. So the requirement is you have to have a degree and you have to have a absolute. Do you really want your cops being complete straight arrows? Growing up, like, never been in a fist fight, Never got into. I know.

[Jay]

Well, they look what we're doing. They used to hire people that Committed crimes and you know, some of the biggest fraud guys I've ever been around. Hackers said that in order to get a job, they wanted to get a job with the government. Was hack one of the government things and usually got a job. Now they throw them in prison. Yeah, they don't do that. Yeah, they used to hire them. They used to hire him. Say you come work for us just you know, everything else or. Because a lot of hackers, young kids would hack the government to get a job.

[Jimmy]

It was, you know, try it now.

[Jay]

So I don't know if you know.

[Mike]

Jimmy, your next task we want you to hatch.

[Lewis]

Give me a hack into the.

[Jay]

So a lot of hackers. You know how hackers sell their product, right? They're. They're anti hack software. They hack companies.

[Mike]

Companies and say, where's arc? We can make it better.

[Jay]

That's what they do. They'll say, hey listen, we're gonna hack your company. We're gonna hack it and, and we're going to prove to you that we can. Whatever. And they're like, oh, you think you're that good? Hack it. And they do. And then they get the software. I mean name. Look at the guy that goes on all these. Sean Ryan's and everything else where the guy's like, I take my little thing everywhere with me.

[Jimmy]

Potato again.

[Lewis]

What?

[Jimmy]

Dude.

[Jay]

Okay, it's, it's. It's crazy about the technology. And they're saying that we're. Every time you turn around all you hear is these big companies being hacked.

[Mike]

Data breach. Yeah, data breach. I don't believe that is. I don't give a. I don't believe it is.

[Jay]

I think what it is, they're selling it. They want to excuse that. Why, how it got out there. And they want to cover their ass by saying that Dom's never responded.

[Lewis]

Not to me. Not to.

[Mike]

I don't think so.

[Jay]

What do you think about that, Mike? What the data breaches are cover up for selling all your data.

[Mike]

Of course they are.

[Jay]

So they don't get sued and liable and they just. It falls under data breach and it's never a data breach.

[Mike]

Then they got to get money from the government to, to prove their security so that national security, national security is at risk. Everything's fraud, dude, okay? Everything's fraud. I'm not gonna.

[Jay]

A lot of people, but a lot of people are going to sit there and come in the comments and be like that's your lie. And you know what you're talking about.

[Mike]

And it's like if you think the government has you in your best interest, then keep living that beautiful life. Life, man. Yeah, there's unicorns out there for you somewhere. That's what you believe. Yeah. Are there good people in the government? Yes. And usually what happens is they're sitting at podcast desks. They get sick of the. That they.

[Lewis]

Oh, no.

[Jay]

They just shut up because they want their pension.

[Lewis]

No, that's another thing, too, is I get. We get all the time. We get emails from publicists. Tom is the whistleblower and the, you know, whistleblower, like, Tom finished his retirement, and now Tom wants to be a whistleblower, and we. We don't. I will not have an old retired dude on there that wants to blow the whistle after he got his pension. That means he doesn't want to blow at that point.

[Jay]

No, no, not even. That is. How do you believe any whistleblower? Because the CIA creates whistleblowers to push their narrative.

[Mike]

He's a real conspiracy. I like it.

[Jay]

But hold on. I'm not even doing that. It's been proven. So how are you going to sit here and say that?

[Mike]

Sure, they want certain information.

[Jay]

So. So, okay, you're going to tell me. In the past, they haven't sent people to leak information. So me, in the drug game would leak certain things to get people to believe certain stuff just to them up. So, okay, in prison, we want to know who a rat is.

[Jimmy]

Dude, I know what you're doing. You need something, Mike.

[Jay]

So in prison, we want to know who the rat is in the group. We agreed to one thing. We leak it. We act like we're meeting, all of us know. And the next, you know, it gets leaked. So we know. Because I tell everybody a different story, and then we. I figure out, okay, he's the one.

[Mike]

We do that in the cop world, too. Yeah, I would walk talking about it. I would walk up to informants and say, you know, no, a guy's in jail. And I'm like, hey, where do I find Jeff Day? Oh, yeah, I just saw him earlier.

[Lewis]

Down.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, he's in jail. So I wouldn't say that loud, but, like, okay, I know I can't trust this guy. So we always test. And you test cops with that.

[Lewis]

You.

[Mike]

You know, I'll walk up and say, hey, dude, I'm gonna. I got one of our sponsors that obviously doesn't watch our show just asked me if we've been running their ad.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, who was it?

[Mike]

Go ahead. I'm not gonna say it out loud.

[Jimmy]

Oh, okay. Well, that's. That's disheartening. Let's see what I, I, I'm all on the spot. Everybody's looking at their back.

[Lewis]

Your camera's working.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, everybody. Yeah, but we're potato again.

[Lewis]

No. Oh, we are, aren't we?

[Jimmy]

That's what I'm, I was telling you. Like, like we started talking about government and we became potatoes.

[Lewis]

Yeah. So our, our.

[Jay]

Are you trying to tell me another conspiracy?

[Lewis]

Our broadcast has been going into, like, really bad quality just randomly throughout the show. And yes, you could attribute it to sometimes more. We're talking about anything.

[Jay]

Well, didn't they just prove that like a year or so ago that they would shadow ban, and do certain things to people's channels that they didn't like?

[Lewis]

What?

[Jay]

Under Biden's administration, they actually look into it. I promise you.

[Lewis]

Oh, no, we've been shadow banned 100.

[Jay]

Well, I'm not even saying shadow banned. I'm talking about even quality and stuff that they will. If you're not pushing what they want, they'll slow your speed down.

[Lewis]

Oh, that's a thing?

[Jay]

No, look it up, dude. Tick Tock is one of the most vicious. I don't even use Tick Tock hardly.

[Jimmy]

Anymore because it's so bad. Do a test.

[Lewis]

What, you want to talk something pro government?

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, we, we could talk about that thing that I, I texted you about that you guys were, you were like, jimmy, you're the weak link.

[Lewis]

I didn't, don't put it. I didn't say, jimmy, you're the week.

[Jay]

I said.

[Lewis]

What I said was when people call, when people contact this podcast, and they would never in a million years talk to me and Mike, and they go to you because they want to ask you a bunch of questions. That's what I mean by that, because.

[Jimmy]

I know what you mean. Okay, well, I just said it that way so you know exactly what I was talking.

[Jay]

Listen, if I was going to commit a crime, you're the last one in this group that I would do it with.

[Jimmy]

I know.

[Jay]

I'm just telling you. And even he's been a cop, so I, I still know that Mike, because he's one of them types. Like, I don't want to be involved. And I'm just like, I already know the paperwork, the problems. Like, I didn't see anything. Don't bring me in because I know how it's going to turn out. And that's why I know he would be like, I'm looking this way.

[Lewis]

I didn't see anything. Probably has.

[Jay]

He's gonna be Like, I'm retired kind of same thing. And Jimmy's gonna be like, yeah, I've seen something not even think about.

[Mike]

Matter of fact, I helped him carry it all out. He got in the blue truck with a tag.

[Jay]

Jimmy's gonna be like, I'm doing the right thing. He's gonna be like, damn, I didn't know it was gonna be six months down the road. I'm gonna have to lose work, do this, do that, and everything else. And, you know, Mike's gonna be like, oh, yeah, I didn't see anything. I don't know what the y' all are talking about. Yeah, I think that guy down the road did. Go find him.

[Jimmy]

I am very happy that you don't want to do criminal activity. That nothing could make me happier.

[Jay]

I, I good at picking up people.

[Jimmy]

I, I've got other skills.

[Jay]

But the only thing that broke my people was that 20, 30 years, that'll do it.

[Jimmy]

You know, I, I will tell you though, Jay, there are some people that are very happy. I've kept my mouth shut for a very, very long time.

[Jay]

Yeah, I can believe that.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Are they in the room with us? No. Okay, so it's not us.

[Jay]

All right.

[Jimmy]

No, no. I was like, what do I not know? Well, I mean, we can talk about that later. But I mean, not everything's above board when you go down range.

[Lewis]

Well, I was gonna get into moon landing stuff, but I don't want to do it and have it look like a bag of ass. We're still working out this whole.

[Mike]

There's nothing left to work out. We need to. We're doing, we'll be doing it all.

[Jay]

Okay, well, look at the videos. You see, Joe Rogan did the whole video with the bombs that blow up, but the camera doesn't move in the desert.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jay]

Like, I mean, that's the number one giveaway right there. Like the atomic bombs. The government was lying. That's the same error as the, the moon landing thing.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay]

They threw off the atomic bombs and they have the camera. Everything just disinterates and goes away. But the camera and the footage doesn't. And the camera's just sitting there just like. Yeah, nothing happened to the camera.

[Lewis]

They were little models. There were little model houses. The guy, his guest was like, yeah, those are like downscale little houses in that this.

[Jay]

But you still could have a live stream camera. But I guess they didn't live stream, but they could have put a long cord to record it and watch the camera decenterate and actually have a True one, but they didn't. I'm just saying.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I'm. I'm going down the NASCAR hole now.

[Lewis]

All right, what is it? You got anything about.

[Jimmy]

I haven't gotten it there yet. So I know you guys want. Want my reaction, but I'm like, holy. Because this just dropped.

[Lewis]

What the.

[Jimmy]

The NASCAR settled out of court.

[Lewis]

Oh, they did.

[Jimmy]

Michael Jordan. And I'm trying to figure out what's going on.

[Jay]

What is up with that, because I heard it's in nascar.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's. There's an antitrust. Michael Jordan did it. Basically said, hey, we paid a lot of money. You guys didn't pay us the money that you were supposed to pay us.

[Lewis]

You're.

[Jimmy]

You're not dealing in good faith. And it's Michael Jordan versus nascar. And it looks like NASCAR just said. Said we're. We're out. Michael Jordan just beat him again. Michael Jordan still goat. So I'm trying to figure out what's going on right now.

[Jay]

Is it true or is they just bowed down because they didn't want the bad public?

[Jimmy]

No, it. No, it was much more about like when discovery happened. Hey, if anybody out there is doing a lawsuit, you might want to pay attention to the part where discovery is really bad news for you. So NASCAR said you, we'll go to discovery. Michael Jordan. And then a whole bunch of bad, bad stuff started coming out about nascar.

[Lewis]

Like what?

[Jimmy]

Like people talking about this, you know, so Richard Childers is. Was Dale Earnhardt's partner. People talking about Richard Childers and, and Dale and all kinds of stuff.

[Mike]

Can't talk about.

[Lewis]

You can't. That's a cry. That's a felony.

[Mike]

You can't talk about.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, so let me read it and you guys talk a bunch of yourselves. Let me read it and I'll. I'll freaking summarize.

[Lewis]

Okay, so.

[Mike]

So since we've been sitting here, I got this reporter from Raymond Nolte, keeps calling me the guy that writes all the Vero news hit pieces.

[Jay]

Okay, put him on the.

[Mike]

No, no. He's mad because I, I finally. I'm done with him, dude.

[Jay]

Why? I tried to be the one that did the piece and everybody's happy about it.

[Mike]

That was part of it. But he. He's a fair weather friend, man. Like, I gave him super dirt before the election that he ran. Put in the paper.

[Lewis]

Paper.

[Mike]

And after the election was lost and I tried to come, you know, some of the stuff I have. I told you stuff I have in my pocket. I tried to call him a month And a half ago with that big story. No call, no call, no call, no call. Finally, he talked to another guy and Mike said some nasty things on Facebook. He's like, yeah, you don't call the guy. So it's like now he's trying to reach out to me and I'm done. Like, I think that old school reporting, pecking away on a news Facebook post and put is gone on. You see the steam I'm getting back home with the local stories?

[Lewis]

All right, I'm sending some moon landings.

[Mike]

So it's like I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. I'm not gonna go back to like talking to a reporter that posts on the line.

[Lewis]

All right, Lewis, can you pull Instagram up and go to the Tyler Conversation and pull up this will draw up some. There's two new reels in there that I want. I need. Mike, I got. I got the.

[Jimmy]

I got the info on this. Okay, so when you're ready. God bless you.

[Jay]

I haven't got to watch, you know, show about cops and cheating wives.

[Mike]

Yeah, you gotta watch it. It's a good one.

[Jay]

What's the summary of it?

[Mike]

Cops and cheating wives.

[Jimmy]

Not having to look at any video clip or any picture. Today, with five decades better rockets and computers, the farthest that NASA can send an astronaut into space is only 1000th the distance to the moon. So what they're really claiming, Danny, is that back in 1969, when all of NASA's computers combined had 1 millionth the computing power of a cell phone, they sent astronauts ahead of schedule on the first attempt 1000 times farther than they can do today with 50 years better technology. So what they're actually saying is, for the first time in the history of the world, technology was greater in the past than in the future, which is impossible. Which means they faked it. It's amazing. The truth is right there. And people have made a God out of this and they refuse to see the truth can prove. All right, I'm going.

[Lewis]

Wait, let me get you up so we can create the real.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Lewis]

All right. And you're ready? All right, I'm going to tell you.

[Jimmy]

About all of these things that I know nothing about. And I'm gonna talk in the weirdest voice possible. And I'm just an old wizard man. And you're gonna believe everything.

[Lewis]

So you sound like somebody that's got nothing. So you're going to insults.

[Jimmy]

Oh, no, that's. That's my first problem with these.

[Jay]

He just ran 10 people off the channel.

[Jimmy]

Plus we Just became potentially so. Yeah, we're potatoes again.

[Lewis]

All right, go ahead.

[Jimmy]

So first of all, like, what he's not telling you is the dumbest part of this whole thing. We built rockets and we don't build those rockets anymore. So yes, of course right now we don't have the capability to do it because we weren't going to the moon for the last 50 years. I'm sure that if Elon decided it was time to go to the moon and we built a rocket picking up to. To launch the payload and why hasn't he.

[Mike]

He would have. He would have already.

[Jimmy]

He. Dude, you know how much money that cost?

[Mike]

Why haven't we plenty of it?

[Lewis]

That's why I'm saying he's got money.

[Jay]

Why.

[Lewis]

Why hasn't he?

[Jimmy]

Why hasn't he? Yeah, I'm not Elon. You're asking me to look into his mind. I'm telling you we don't have. That he wants because we don't why.

[Mike]

We stopped the moon first.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we are planning to.

[Jay]

He's already planning on going to Mars, passing the moon.

[Jimmy]

I'm confused about your question. You're asking why hasn't he built the rocket?

[Lewis]

It.

[Mike]

I'm at, where is the technology to get there? You're telling me that like he said 50, 60 years ago, we built something that we can't build today?

[Jimmy]

No, we can build it today. We just don't.

[Jay]

So I've seen a clip.

[Jimmy]

I mean, you know what else we don't build? Transistor radios.

[Mike]

Why would it cost so much more? I mean, with technology it should. Shouldn't cost as much to build something that was capable of flying to the moon 50 years ago. It seems like I can put together a. A 3271969 Chevy engine pretty cheap right now, versus a Tesla electric first.

[Jimmy]

I mean, first of all, the, the stuff that. To build the Saturn V rocket that got us to the moon, we don't have that. We don't even have those tools anymore. We destroyed all that.

[Mike]

Why?

[Jimmy]

Because they. We melted them. We melted down the tools so that we could build other stuff. Like what are we just going to keep all this?

[Lewis]

AJ we have a search warrant for your phone. I destroyed it it for no reason whatsoever, by the way. Not that I don't want you to look into it.

[Jay]

I gotta find. I gotta find this video so this.

[Jimmy]

Guy, like if you don't want the answers to the questions. Yeah, but you're not letting.

[Lewis]

You're not even.

[Jimmy]

You're not even Jimmy.

[Lewis]

I believe you.

[Jimmy]

No, what I'm saying is, look, if you build a. You build a multi million dollar tool made of multi million dollar titanium that you need to build a specific rocket that you are no longer building anymore. If you're a company, you're going, hey, let's recoup our losses here. We're not using this tool anymore. Let's melt it down, sell it, whatever we're going to do, get the money out of the material that it's made of and move on. Because we're not building that rocket anymore.

[Lewis]

Why do we have plain graveyards? Why don't we melt down planes?

[Jimmy]

Why don't we. We do meltdown planes, but we also use parts.

[Lewis]

Okay, so.

[Jimmy]

So we've still got F16s that are sitting out in the back boneyard.

[Lewis]

A multi million dollar tool that we might not need or we might need. We don't know.

[Jimmy]

You can only build 14 Saturn V rockets and you're never going to build.

[Lewis]

Why would we never build one again?

[Jimmy]

What be for? First of all, you bet. Basically just answered the question. Technology has moved forward.

[Jay]

We haven't.

[Mike]

Not here it hasn't. We're not there again, we're. I don't.

[Jimmy]

We're not going to the moon anymore.

[Mike]

Why not?

[Lewis]

That.

[Jimmy]

I don't. I mean, that's my question. Why aren't we going to the moon? We should be. What was the reason that we went to the moon in the first place? Answer me that panel of disagreeable people.

[Lewis]

You had a response that was pretty good to this video, but actually, you.

[Jimmy]

Guys know I'm like playing the part. Yeah, okay.

[Lewis]

You don't have to.

[Jimmy]

Well, I just don't want it to be like a crash out again.

[Lewis]

But the next one we're gonna play. You saw it. You actually did have a reason why. Kind of made a little sense. Play the next one in the Instagram. Many of us and many other people in many places have speculated on the meaning of this first landing on another body in space. Would each of you give us your estimate of what is the meaning of.

[Jay]

This to all of us?

[Lewis]

You want to try that?

[Mike]

All right.

[Jimmy]

You want to know why they're acting this way?

[Lewis]

I believe that.

[Jay]

What this country set out to do was something that was.

[Lewis]

Going to be done sooner or later.

[Jay]

Whether we set a specific goal or not.

[Lewis]

I believe that.

[Mike]

From the early space.

[Jay]

Flights, we demonstrated a potential to carry.

[Lewis]

Out this type of a mission.

[Jay]

And again, it was a question of.

[Lewis]

Time until this would be accomplished.

[Mike]

I think the.

[Lewis]

Relative ease with which we were able to Carry out our mission, with which of course came after.

[Jimmy]

A very efficient and logical sequence of flights. I think that this demonstrated that we.

[Lewis]

Were certainly on the right track when.

[Mike]

We took this commitment to go to the moon. I think that what this means is.

[Jay]

That many other problems perhaps can be solved in the same way by taking.

[Mike]

A commitment to solve them in a long time fashion.

[Jay]

I think that we were timely in accepting this.

[Mike]

Mission of going to the moon. It might be timely at this point.

[Jay]

To think in many other areas of.

[Jimmy]

Other missions that could be accomplished.

[Lewis]

That sounds like word salad.

[Jimmy]

First of all, you got to know Buzz Aldrin.

[Lewis]

Hold on, keep playing.

[Jimmy]

Oh, Jesus Christ. You say something?

[Lewis]

I just said it sounds like worst out. At this point.

[Jimmy]

I just see it as the beginning. Not just this flight, but in this.

[Lewis]

Program which has really been a very.

[Jimmy]

Short piece of human history. An instant in history, the entire program.

[Lewis]

It's a beginning of a new age. All right, so obviously you can see it. It says, imagine coming back from the moon and being this exuberant, AKA mocking the fact that they weren't exuberant. All right, now go ahead.

[Jimmy]

All right, first of all, they were in isolation for 30 days when they came back because they were afraid that when they landed on the moon they might bring back contagions from the moon.

[Lewis]

They were isolated from each other.

[Jimmy]

They. No, they were isolated from the rest of humanity.

[Lewis]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

They brought them back to Earth. They isolated everything. And they were like, here, let me just put you in this Airstream for the next 30 days and make sure that you don't die of any illnesses and you're going to talk to your family through a glass window and all.

[Lewis]

I mean, it was that verified.

[Jimmy]

I mean, there's plenty of documents for it. I mean, I could give you documentation, but I feel like I'm not gonna win that argument. Like, here's the documentation.

[Lewis]

That sounds more believable than throwing away a tool. That was a million dollars.

[Jimmy]

They didn't throw it away. They sold it. They scrapped it and sold the metal. That's not throwing it away.

[Lewis]

Well, it's. I mean, it's kind of throwing it away. It's getting rid of it. You can't use it anymore.

[Jimmy]

Well, you can't build. You have no reason to build a tool anymore. I mean, I mean, like we did the same thing, by the way. So if you want to talk about that. Do you think the SR71 was a real airplane?

[Lewis]

I don't know what that is.

[Jimmy]

That's the Blackbird, the big black airplane.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Right. Okay. That airplane had to be made completely of titanium. They had the tools had to be made to mill titanium. What were they made of? Titanium. Once it was done and we weren't building the Blackbird anymore, they scrapped the tools. They got the Met. We can't build a Blackbird either anymore.

[Mike]

I bet somebody could.

[Jimmy]

I'm sure somebody could build a Saturn 5 too. But we're not. We're caught. We're talking about technology that's like hey this is the 70s era technology and we're in 2025.

[Jay]

I just sent Mike a tick tock video. The logic or the reason why they're. They think why Elon's building the underground. Boring. Getting it done. Robots, electric and everything to all for Mars.

[Mike]

It's.

[Jay]

I'm telling you this guy.

[Lewis]

The one thing I will say that really it does back up Jimmy's argument is the sense that if we hadn't gone to the moon, why would Elon make Mars his priority? Why wouldn't he hit the moon first? Make sure we could do that? Unless we've already been.

[Jay]

They're going to talk about it because we can't. Mars is not going to be. Or the moon is not going to be capable for us to live. But Mars is big enough for. Because they say society on Earth is over with. It's going to be doomed. So they're going to move to Mars. I'm telling you. Watch what I'm telling you.

[Mike]

It's pretty wild. Email Lewis.

[Jay]

It's pretty wild how they're talking about. So the mar. The moon is not big enough and it doesn't have what it takes. So Mars does and they're saying that how. Why is it a coincidence that Elon's doing all four of these things or five are there?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

The whole thing is he wants another planet for humanity.

[Jay]

Yes. I swear to God.

[Lewis]

Can we live there without a suit?

[Jimmy]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jay]

Watch what he's gonna do. This video is going to break it down for you. It's pretty insane.

[Jimmy]

Musk built five companies that together are worth $1.5 trillion. And the craziest part is they were all made to colonize Mars. We'll start with the most obvious first. SpaceX. They're currently building starships. A fully reusable rocket that can carry over a hundred people to Mars. It's also the biggest spaceship ever made. Next up is the boring company. It's currently used for building underground tunnels for high speed transport. And Mars has a very thin atmosphere so radiation is a major Danger. Therefore you can't live on the surface. The boring company's tunneling technology could build subsurface shelters, transportation systems or storage areas on Mars.

[Mike]

Next is Tesla.

[Jimmy]

The electric cars are more sustainable on a planet that doesn't have fossil fuels. Also, Tesla's building humanoid robots where Elon could send millions to Mars to help colonize the planet before you ever had.

[Jay]

To send a human.

[Jimmy]

They'll also be able to work in conditions that humans couldn't even survive in. Next X AI would be a robust autonomous system that would be needed on Mars since real time human oversight from Earth isn't possible. And last, we have Tesla Energy that builds solar panels and battery storage systems. Mars will need to have power, so, so being able to build power plants will be essential. Except there won't be a real estate problem on Mars. You'll be able to have miles of solar fields. Elon Musk is literally the Tony Stark of our world. And his companies aren't random.

[Mike]

They're the blueprint to make human life multi planetary.

[Jimmy]

That is his, that's Elon Musk's argument is that we need to be on another planet.

[Lewis]

If you think we're just, we're going to be able to live on Mars, you're, I don't know, maybe they said that about us. When we colonize America, you can't go live over there. It's a brave new world or whatever it's called.

[Jay]

So you have robots build it so you can live underground.

[Mike]

I don't understand. The problem I see with that is we can't, we can't function as a society in an open free world where we can roam. Now you're going to lock us all in tunnels and in little villages and start government there like it's gonna be extinct quick. It is, yeah. It's gonna be gone quick.

[Lewis]

Are we gonna have courts? Are we gonna have police? Are we gonna have.

[Jay]

I, I, I mean we, we do it in prison. Hold on. People survive in prison. In, in one prison, they lived their whole life. And everybody's able to make it?

[Lewis]

Well, not everybody makes it.

[Mike]

You don't melt like, you know what I'm saying? Like that is like.

[Lewis]

I don't know.

[Jay]

Well, I mean, I, I don't know.

[Lewis]

CC says the same people who believe in the moon landing think it was also 6 million.

[Mike]

Oh, Jesus.

[Lewis]

All right guys, that's it for today's show. We'll. Are you, you don't go live. You're filming pre recorded nothing. No live.

[Mike]

I'm off today, okay, Till tonight.

[Lewis]

Till tonight. So we'll be. The Night Shift will be on live. 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time. Join us. It'll be a good time as it always is. Thank you guys for joining us now and we'll see you tonight.

[Mike]

Sa.

[Lewis]

Team for life.