12/18/2025: WE WERE WRONG...

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast — Episode Summary

Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Date: December 19, 2025 — Episode: “WE WERE WRONG...”
Hosts: Mike, Tyler, Lewis, Jimmy
Audience: Veterans, First Responders, All Blue Collar Americans

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Antihero Broadcast is a candid roundtable that takes on recent missteps in reporting, gun laws and violence in Australia, the fallout of the Afghanistan withdrawal, reliability of government and law enforcement, agency corruption, and community relations. The hosts hold themselves to account, especially regarding a viral controversy over the Bondi shooting footage, and invite frank listener engagement. The team—veterans and law enforcement professionals—pull few punches in criticizing police admin, U.S. and foreign policies, and the culture of information (and disinformation) around incidents impacting first responders and blue collar communities.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Accountability for Misinformation: The Bondi Shooting

• Correction on Viral Clip ([05:27]–[08:56])
  • Mike and Tyler address their earlier misrepresentation of Australian female police officers' response during the Bondi shooting.
  • Listener backlash, particularly from Australians, prompted the hosts to revisit and correct their statements.
  • Mike: “We're about transparency and accuracy. We're wrong. We had the wrong information ... those women were not hiding ... one of them was actually shot. ... We answered every single message with an in-depth, heartfelt response.”
  • The hosts stress the pressure to comment on breaking news, and reflect on the media’s routine failure to offer retractions or updates.
  • Lewis: “News media like Fox News and CNN put out [misinformation] ... They don’t even do a retraction. They don’t do what Mike just did.”

2. Australian Gun Laws, Public Response, and Community Preparedness

• Gun Control and Armed Citizenry ([10:34]–[12:29])
  • Detailed debate about whether strict gun laws result in less public safety.
  • Contrast between Australian and U.S. culture regarding public response to active shooter events.
  • Mike: “I’m told ... gun laws are so strict in Australia, that guy would go to prison the rest of his life if he shot [the shooter].”
  • Tyler: “You get what you voted for. ... Here in America, you’ll get five citizens ready to blast you.”
  • Discussion of mass shooting incidents in Australia compared to the U.S.

3. Online Narratives, Fake News, and Conspiracies

• Controversial Claims and Distrust ([13:23]–[15:28])
  • The hosts unpack conspiracy theories surrounding the Bondi event: crisis actors, doctored photos, antisemitic conspiracies.
  • Lewis: “At this point, who do we believe? ... It’s kind of credible that we’ve had people do stuff and ... we kind of have to go back to—‘I need to throw the blue flag here.’”

4. Reflections on Law Enforcement, Agency Transparency, and Crime Reporting

• Crime Data Manipulation and Professional Conduct ([23:18]–[27:10])
  • Discussion around manipulation of crime statistics by law enforcement leadership.
  • Examples: D.C. Chief allegedly “cooking the books", administrative pressure to downgrade offenses.
  • Tyler: “They were cooking the D.C. chief ... lowering numbers and making it look like [they] were very safe.”

5. Afghanistan Withdrawal: Vetting & National Security Concerns

• Operation Allies Welcome: Fact and Fiction ([27:57]–[41:48])
  • The hosts return to a previous viral topic: poorly vetted Afghan evacuees during the 2021 US withdrawal.
  • Lewis: “125,000–150,000 people coming here without knowing who they are—that’s a problem. ... There are a shitload of people in the United States that, 100% based on the intelligence we have, they killed American soldiers.”
  • Tyler: “Would you let 12 people in your house you had no idea who they were?”
  • Executive orders and legal barriers prevent effective intelligence sharing between DoD and DHS (see [36:04]–[38:57]).
  • Many evacuees allegedly on parole, no follow-up, many unaccounted for.

6. International Military Bases and U.S. Foreign Policy

• Why Host Nations Allow U.S. Bases ([43:55]–[46:45])
  • The group explains why foreign countries, even wealthy ones like Saudi Arabia, allow U.S. military presence.
  • Lewis: “They benefit a lot. ... Infrastructure, security. ... [If] we might get attacked, but if we get attacked, the big stick is coming.”
  • The discussion segues into a critique of Western foreign policy motivations (“It’s always oil.”)

7. Community Policing, Social Media, and Public Relations

• Effectiveness and Limitations ([81:21]–[116:56])
  • Debate over shutting off police comment sections and the value of agency “coffee with a cop” PR stunts.
  • Mike: “If they ask you a question, you don’t have an option. You have to answer it. ... Why are you allowed to suppress people [blocking comments]?”
  • The consensus is that genuine professional conduct, not PR events, best earns community trust.
  • Jimmy: “You know how you win your community? You do your job, you do it professionally, you do it right.”
  • Satirical and critical takes on the difference between performative outreach and meaningful service.

8. Corruption, Whistleblowing, and Local Politics

• Barriers to Accountability and Backlash ([92:29]–[103:53])
  • Mike shares personal experience of filing complaints against local sheriffs for misusing public funds, and threats or intimidation faced as a result.
  • Mike: “I, as a citizen of America, have to be that terrified and have people that worried about me because all I’m doing is saying, ‘here’s a man who has completely been untouchable’ …”
  • The group underscores how systemic retaliation and the “disgruntled” label can silence whistleblowers.

9. Role of Humor, Camaraderie, and Professionalism in Law Enforcement

• Culture and Changing Standards ([105:01]–[112:35])
  • The team discusses how internal law enforcement culture, dark humor, and “boomer” administration can be at odds with public expectations, diversity, and evolving professional standards.
  • Comedy is used to diffuse, but the hosts acknowledge how jokes can still impact agency reputation.
  • Lewis: “You guys have got to avoid even the appearance of evil. … Even if it’s a joke, if it gets out, it’s going to tar and feather every other cop.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Correcting Mistakes:
  “We’re about transparency and accuracy. We’re wrong.” — Mike, [07:25]
• On the Importance of Training:
  “I’m all for armed citizens. I just wish they’d train a little bit.” — Jimmy, [19:20]
• On Vetting Evacuees:
  “125,000–150,000 people coming here without knowing who they are—that’s a problem.” — Lewis, [29:57] “Would you let 12 people in your house you had no idea who they were?” — Mike, [33:34]
• On Police/Public Relations:
  “You know how you win your community? You do your job, you do it professionally, you do it right. … It’s not by going out and pandering to the community.” — Jimmy, [112:36]
• On Internal Retaliation:
  “They call us disgruntled. We’re nasty. … I just talk a lot of s— on the Internet.” — Mike, [122:51]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Correction on Bondi shooting reporting | 05:27–08:56 | | Australian gun laws and public response | 10:34–12:29 | | Conspiracies & fake news around shootings | 13:23–15:28 | | Police crime stat manipulation | 23:18–27:10 | | Afghan vetting/fallout discussion | 27:57–41:48 | | U.S. bases and foreign policy | 43:55–46:45 | | Police/public relations/PR events debate | 81:21–116:56 | | Whistleblowing & corruption at local agencies | 92:29–103:53 | | Cop culture, humor, and professionalism | 105:01–112:35 |

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Tone and Style

The conversation is candid, critical, irreverent, and often darkly humorous—with an undercurrent of sincere advocacy for first responders and blue collar communities. In their banter and debates, they encourage skepticism toward media narratives, government competence, and institutional accountability—while pushing for sanity, transparency, and self-correction in their own reporting.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a great snapshot of the Antihero Broadcast’s ethos: blending gallows humor, professional insight, and strong opinions with a standing invitation for audience feedback—and a willingness to admit when they “got it wrong.” Fans and critics alike are called on to be part of a brutally honest, frequently off-color but fiercely community-driven dialogue.

Transcript

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[Tyler]

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[Lewis]

I. I try to be.

[Mike]

We're active in Patreon. We appreciate everything over there on Patreon. And don't forget, tonight is Thursday. Thursday night's Night Shift where we let Jimmy un. Uncork the vodka. And we.

[Lewis]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

That's a new shirt, by the way. Turned down for what we got our.

[Mike]

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[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. December 19, 2019. So tomorrow's my six year anniversary is.

[Mike]

Still being live shot where I was.

[Jimmy]

Shot in the neck.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Took one.

[Mike]

Took one for the people.

[Tyler]

I did.

[Mike]

And the agency supported you with mental health counseling and did all those good things for you, correct?

[Jimmy]

Zero percent.

[Mike]

Oh, Jesus. Okay. So Carries with us. He's an expert in the field of getting shot and getting by an agency. Jimmy got shot in a helmet.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I've never been shot.

[Tyler]

I should clarify that. I was talking about the getting.

[Jimmy]

I don't recommend it.

[Lewis]

It's not. Not one of those things.

[Tyler]

What we got to do is. I've been promising this for weeks. We forget it every time because we're a show broadcast. But we've had a Patreon giveaway for about two weeks and we have yet to do it. Oh, everybody signed up at the end of November. I didn't forget about y'. All. We're going to do it right now. So if you can. This is a number seven. This is not the winner. Can you click this? Number five is what it randomly generated. So we're gonna go to number five. And it is Peter Butler. Peter Lewis.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

You have won a flashlight attack light. It's not weapons mounted, it's handheld. But it's a beautiful light. It's a 350 light. That is going to Peter Butler. And we will continue the Patreon giveaways now on a routine basis.

[Mike]

You want me to jump into my problem?

[Lewis]

All right.

[Tyler]

So we obviously always do reflections. We have a very unique reflection.

[Mike]

Yeah. So did you put the picture up, Lewis? This is where Lewis is. Time to shine. Let's see.

[Jimmy]

Do we still have audio?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The picture, the girl. The one I said when I put the. Say put the picture up. You put the picture up. That's the one. So this image came out Monday when we recorded and we made some statements about. There were some reports of the females were running from the scene and the reel was clipped with that. I think it went out Wednesday, Tuesday night or Wednesday.

[Tyler]

It went out when.

[Mike]

Okay, so I got message after message after message clarifying I am 100 about accountability. I'm going to read the message that was sent to me and I'm not going to say by who, but somebody that works over there collaborating on this post is wild. You're stripped away the context because it doesn't fit your out your outrage base. The female officer did not run, surrender or hide. Their victims were shot at. They were ducking behind the car to take cover from gunfire, which is exactly what any trained human being would do when bullets are flying. Their hands were up, letting civilians know and yelling at civilians to run and get away. Let's be real for a moment. Of course Australian police aren't as prepared as the United States. We don't have the mass shootings every week. And went on to say that my response was that we saw the picture, we got the context and that I have 100 accountability about changing that narrative and saying what was actually correct. So.

[Tyler]

Well and did you. Is that.

[Mike]

I got a bunch of them. I got one was from.

[Tyler]

We got.

[Mike]

Yes, that was the same one, but I got about five more.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we got Antihero got one from him, but Antar also got one. This is, this is all, it's all about how you talk to people.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Tyler]

Someone else named Ben messaged us and said, hey, legends shooting a message from Sydney, Australia. Absolutely love the Podiatz page. Just quickly about the post from the shooting we had this week and what you posted. There have been a shitload of fake media going about. Same message.

[Mike]

Yeah, I got, I got, I got quite a few and I, I where we, we report something live and we see we're all guilty of it, but we see something go across instagram and there's 27 pages reporting the same thing. We brought it up. You clipped it like you always do. Controversial. Controversial.

[Lewis]

Hey.

[Mike]

And it went out and it got what it does. But we are about transparency and accuracy. We're wrong. We had the wrong information. Those women were not hiding those actually one of them was actually shot. The bullets went through her front windshield. And you know about that. Her bullets went through her one front windshield and actually struck her in the vest. One of those females that was in those pictures and then they got out and were directing and moving people around and it was clipped probably obviously not in the right context and said they were cowering or hiding and that.

[Lewis]

But let's be clear here. News media like Fox News And CNN put out all the time within 12 hours of something like this happening, which we did. And then as more information comes out, because the first, the first information is always wrong. They don't even do a retraction. They don't do what Mike just did. Oh, well, we got new information. Here's what it is.

[Mike]

No, and I have a lot. It's weird. I don't know why I ended up in Australia, but when I do my analytics, I have like my third largest following is Australia.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Mike]

I have to ship to Australia and I've gotten a lot of support over there, so I'm obviously not on them. And I was wrong.

[Tyler]

You're wrong.

[Mike]

We got the wrong context. We got what Jimmy said. We were, we saw it, Somebody else reported it. We repeated it. You clipped it like you do. And it came out as we were like that because you clip things and you got us threatened. We all hate cops in there. We want to shoot cops when they come in your house. So it got clipped the way it did. But I answered every single message with an in depth, heartfelt response that it was not the intentions and that every, every single person I spoke to from Australia absolutely said, appreciate your honesty and the way you're going to clear it up. And off we go.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, that whole thing is weird that everybody was talking about why he didn't shoot when, when the civilian took the gun from the bad guy. Yeah. We were talking about how that would, he would have been justified all day in shooting. So we're gonna go into a couple things about that. First off, when I was watching it, I was like, maybe he didn't know. When a civilian gets strips away a weapon from somebody, maybe they do not know how it works. Maybe this, maybe that shooter engaged the safety before he moved. Now you got to figure out what the safety is. And in real time, you're like, some people were saying that it wasn't loaded anymore.

[Lewis]

Well, I, I, I, I mean, I know we now know exactly what kind of weapon that is. So that was a Beretta BRX1 762 straight pole bolt gun.

[Tyler]

The both of them had both rifles.

[Lewis]

No, they, the other ones were shotguns. The other ones were the guy on.

[Tyler]

The ground that got the gun strip.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that was a BRX one.

[Tyler]

So the guy on the bridge also had a bolt. Right.

[Lewis]

He had a 12 gauge shotgun, which is a.

[Tyler]

No, that's the guy that got the gun taken from him. The guy on the bridge had the bolt action rifle.

[Lewis]

Did he?

[Mike]

Yeah, you can see Him.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean. I mean, I didn't. We didn't even know what kind of guns were. Me and. Me and Gary were talking like, I have no freaking idea what kind of gun that is.

[Jimmy]

My first thought when I saw it was a shotgun. And then when I saw he had just fired. I'm sorry, I'm new. He had just fired when the guy came up and tackled him. So if he hadn't. If it. If it was. He hadn't reloaded it, then he had nothing in the chamber. And if that guy didn't know how to use it, he's holding a stick, basically. Yeah. I just still beat him over the head with.

[Lewis]

That's what I was saying. Turning around makes a great club.

[Mike]

So I got. Obviously, you know how my wife studies case law and all that, and we had a very great discussion about that I shouldn't carry a gun if I'm going to shoot that guy in that situation. Because she didn't agree. She says if that guy's not longer a threat. We went back and forth about IEDs and all that. But anyway, I'm told from the same people that commented, the gun laws are so strict in Australia, that guy would go to prison the rest of his life if he shot.

[Jimmy]

Really?

[Mike]

That was from seven different people. They said, he cannot. I don't care if there's 30 dead babies laying around. And he just got done killing all three of them. They are so 30 of them. They are so strict on gun laws. He would have went to prison for the rest of his life for shooting that guy. So he did that. It probably never even crossed his mind. And he probably never touched a gun. That's the other thing we got to think of. He's a fruit stand owner.

[Tyler]

So do we. Do we have to sit here and blindly. We can still on Australia. Right.

[Lewis]

Not just.

[Tyler]

Not the cops. I mean, I mean, the fact that they have gun laws, which is the fact that they let a bunch of Muslims in their country and that's why this happened in the first place.

[Lewis]

Not.

[Tyler]

Not nothing against Muslims coming to the country is when you just blindly open the fucking floodgates. I saw a meme. Oh, man. It was.

[Mike]

They were taking people to jail for covet over there.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I mean, and a lot of. A lot of Australians will deny that. They're like, no, my country. That what you're getting is fake news. I'm like, I'm pretty sure I saw like massive protests in streets of Australia. Now, could it be like the difference between California And Florida maybe.

[Lewis]

I don't know.

[Jimmy]

I think the difference is they're an island. When you get a disease like that, I mean, you gotta think about if you don't lock your down, it's an island.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Muslims in.

[Jimmy]

But that, I mean, that I can't figure.

[Lewis]

And that was, that was one of the things that I said to people, you know, that, that made that comment. And I'm like, well, you know, here's the thing. If what you're saying is true, that if he shot that person, he would have gone to jail. You get what you get. You get what you voted for. If you voted for that or you allowed that to happen, then that's the, that them's the breaks. I mean, you know, here in America, you'll get, you know, five citizens that are ready to blast you.

[Mike]

This is their second one, right.

[Lewis]

They.

[Mike]

That really bad one.

[Lewis]

Australia. Yeah, that was back 20.

[Mike]

Back 25 people. That wasn't that long ago. There's video of it.

[Tyler]

A gun.

[Mike]

Yeah. The guy wore, the guy wore the body cam and he went through and just destroyed everybody.

[Tyler]

And I don't know, there's so many shootings.

[Mike]

It was real bad. It was streamed online.

[Tyler]

I saw. Have you guys ever seen baby babylonb.com yes. The parody they put out one that said groundbreaking new study finds Islamophobia may be partially caused by Muslims killing people all the time. I didn't say it.

[Lewis]

It's, you know, I, the one that I, I liked was the Mars attacks one. It's like, you know, Muslims, when they show up, we come and peace and.

[Mike]

We start blasting everybody.

[Tyler]

We come and peace.

[Lewis]

Country music does kill them though.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I mean, is there anything. Well, let's touch upon that. That was sticking on the Bondi shooting A little bit.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Immediately the Jews are running the world stuff started coming out.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And it was like AI. Possible AI photos of one of the victims being on the ground painted up with what it was clearly I. Everybody was smiling.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Where would you pull that off? The second thing is that what were they saying is that one of the guys shot was a crisis actor that was in another Australian shooting. Maybe the one you're talking about. Is that true?

[Lewis]

So there, I mean, like that there's. There's people saying that it's fake news and then there's other people who do this kind of stuff on like Twitter and whatnot that say, no, it's not. So here we are. Who do we believe at this point? I mean, and, and let's face it, it's kind of credible that we've had people do stuff and we're like this, this seems like to me, seems like absolute. And you know, we kind of have to go back to. I need to throw the blue flag here.

[Tyler]

You know, where's our. Where's our.

[Lewis]

You know, and again, I mean, Israel does have a vested interest in this stuff. I mean, I posted something on my story today. It was like, you know, 1982, Benjamin Netanyahu talking about we got to get rid of Saddam Hussein and we got to get rid of these people. And we gotta. And it's like. And then the United States does it and then he goes to the next guy and the next guy and the next guy.

[Tyler]

There was a lot of people trying to tie in the shooters to some kind of military unit. Did you see that, Jimmy?

[Lewis]

I. I saw that. What I think that they were is three gunners.

[Tyler]

You think there was three people?

[Lewis]

No, there were. They're the three gun competition. If you look at their setup, you look at the weapons that they used, like, because that's one of the things you can do in Australia's three gun competitions. The shotgun that was used is specifically made for three gun competitions. They had the speed loaders from, you know, three gun competitions. So I don't think that they were military trained. I think they were just guys that went out and they.

[Tyler]

Do they know who these guys were, These shooters? Are they released when they came into the country? Are they affiliated with anybody?

[Lewis]

We. They haven't released a whole lot of information for. Well, I mean, thank God. But I mean, you know, I did send Lewis some stuff because there was another thing that was like another bit of information that said another violent attack was going to happen near Bonnie Beach. And the Australians absolutely responded with a different kind of cop.

[Jimmy]

Yes, they did.

[Lewis]

Like Vic Mackie.

[Mike]

Oh, for the shield.

[Lewis]

Yeah, Left bad cop, left for the day. I'm a different kind of cop. You want to pull that up, Lewis? You can pull up the picture first. That's just the. That's just where I got it from. Just because I have to put the link in to everything where you get that information.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lewis]

Like pull that. Look at. Take a look at these dudes. No, the. The cops, dude, the cops. Nice, nice.

[Mike]

I'm not ready, Lewis.

[Lewis]

There you go.

[Mike]

Oh, we didn't say. We didn't even download it yet.

[Tyler]

Well, it was late. It was at like 10:56 when you said it. Yeah.

[Mike]

Where Lewis is on break.

[Lewis]

Yeah, he did download. It's both. They're both in there. See? So look at these different dudes. This is a different group of.

[Tyler]

Are they law enforcement or military?

[Jimmy]

Those are military.

[Lewis]

It looks military but if they responded with the military, that's a whole different question. So But I did put the link in there so. And then there's a, there's a video from.

[Tyler]

Those guys are suspected. No. Alleged terrorists.

[Lewis]

Those are. Yeah, those are. It carried out an operation Sydney Silver with officers right now. Those are police officers.

[Tyler]

No. Oh oh, the guys in the camo.

[Lewis]

Yeah, those are police officers.

[Tyler]

Did they release any info on who these guys are detaining are. What, what the.

[Lewis]

They just said that they had credible sources that said that a another violent act was possibly being planned and they executed a warrant.

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Lewis]

I'm not a cop.

[Jimmy]

It was very limited information. They got these seven guys. They rammed a couple cars to do it. So it was a huge big scene. I mean apparently this doesn't happen over there so.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like black sandals and long beards man jammies.

[Lewis]

All right. Seems, seems he's, he's, he's wearing the jihadi uniform. Yeah. I mean there's a lot of dudes in, in overseas. I'm not going to say the word that were shooting at all of us that looked exactly like that.

[Tyler]

What word? Reckon.

[Lewis]

Afghanistan.

[Mike]

Drink boys.

[Lewis]

Drink.

[Mike]

Okay, you weren't talking but they look dangerous. Right. Your average human walks by them on the street. Do they look dangerous to most people?

[Jimmy]

The guy in the military uniform.

[Mike]

No, not that guy. Yes, he. Look, the two guys in handcuffs.

[Tyler]

I mean I don't know who do you hate more oppressive governments or just kidding.

[Lewis]

Terrorists. Yeah, I, I, I, I'll take my.

[Tyler]

My government at least it's the, it is the age. It's a tale as old as time. Is that what they call it? Where like now they're relying on their oppressive government to find the bad guys that the liberal government let in.

[Lewis]

It's a self licking ice cream cone.

[Tyler]

It is like it's like you guys said, if they had had guns.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

During that incident, I mean maybe one or two people killed.

[Lewis]

Well let me ask the, the, the panel of, of you know, qualified and very expertly trained and well, what's the word I'm looking for? Yeah. Well endowed.

[Jimmy]

Rumor they I'm out.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Guys that have lots of credentials down the road. What, what are your thoughts on having armed citizens, you know, everywhere. Everywhere?

[Tyler]

Because we'll tell you we can't get to you when you need us. We're responding from. I mean if you get Lucky. Maybe we're a couple streets down, but that's a crapshoot. That's just a gamble.

[Lewis]

You'd rather have a shitload of armed citizens and how to fire their weapons?

[Jimmy]

I, I'm all for armed citizens. I just wish they'd train a little bit.

[Mike]

Well, and I think, I think the civilians train more than the cops.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, a lot of them.

[Jimmy]

Do concealed weapons classes. Nine out of ten of them, they won't fire one round.

[Mike]

But I know, I. If you go to Steel Challenge, Palm Bay Steel Challenge, you go to any of those, IDPA steel challenge, there's gonna be 95 civilians.

[Jimmy]

But that's a select group within the society that's doing that.

[Mike]

They're mixed in. I mean, they're there.

[Jimmy]

Thankful.

[Mike]

That's a lot of people in one place that are carrying guns and practicing.

[Tyler]

Was it us that was talking about teachers?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

Monday.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

What's your thoughts on teachers being armed?

[Jimmy]

Most of them don't want to be.

[Tyler]

Yeah, there are teachers. There are. The more liberal.

[Jimmy]

You got to understand that is the teaching is a very liberal profession to begin with. And a lot of them are anti gun, so you can't force them to be armed because they're definitely not going to do the right thing with it. But there are those within this, the society that want to.

[Lewis]

But let's, let's be real here. Like I, I have three kids in school. I can't go in there with my weapon. Don't go into that school. So I mean, I mean, I feel like I should be.

[Tyler]

Well, and here's another thing too. Concealed carry classes, although you don't have to have it anymore, you should probably go and learn the law. You.

[Jimmy]

Absolutely.

[Tyler]

Because if you carrying a gun onto school grounds, I think it's a felony. Even in a parking lot, you cannot, you cannot drive. Like when I was, when I took my kid, the dentist, we. I was gonna drop them off after school. Luckily I lived in school. But I can't drive on that parking lot with my gun. Yeah, it's kind of an odd thing, but, you know, they don't. That's one of the laws that a lot of people don't know in Florida is that you can't have a gun on school property.

[Mike]

You can in Publix.

[Tyler]

You can.

[Mike]

Public said we're down.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Shootings.

[Lewis]

Nope.

[Mike]

They said, bring it in.

[Lewis]

All the snap stuff was going down. Publix was.

[Mike]

I noticed like my. Where I bought my car. They did.

[Tyler]

They had a big sign, no guns.

[Jimmy]

No since constitutional carry came out. There's more and more businesses put up.

[Tyler]

And I think the, the cool thing about it, I don't know the, the rules government buildings versus pri. You go into a car dealership. As long as you're a responsible gun toting American no one's going to know you have a gun, correct? No. Now for some reason if you sit down and the butt comes out and then some employee freaks out and calls 911 you have all your constitutional rights there. You can leave, they cannot search you based off someone saying he has a gun. I don't know maybe you could start articulating like gray area path downs but you know you have a lot more rights as a private business. You go to a school, I don't know if they say stop right there. You're in a school with a reported gun. I don't really know.

[Mike]

You're not going to make it. Most, most schools have detectors or that software I was telling you you about that detects them like most schools have metal detectors.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Mike]

When you come into anywhere in the school and obviously the open carry. I I told you I was going up.

[Tyler]

What if you go to an all white school? Do they need them as much?

[Lewis]

What?

[Mike]

What is it?

[Jimmy]

Hold on, I'm just gonna watch real quick.

[Mike]

Can you gonna get under the desk. You define what all white.

[Tyler]

Well primarily white school.

[Lewis]

Well so like the rich kids.

[Tyler]

No, you can live in suburbia.

[Lewis]

You know I mean there's.

[Mike]

There's the blowback again from that is who are the mass shooters in schools primarily.

[Lewis]

That is a fair thing to say.

[Mike]

The mass shooters in Chicago are one.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna refer. I'm gonna refer to Nick Fuentes.

[Mike]

I'm not going to.

[Lewis]

Why, why are we. I mean why.

[Jimmy]

I don't know.

[Mike]

I'm just.

[Tyler]

What I'm doing is we are not racist by any means but what we.

[Mike]

Will most racist tell you the first thing on their mouth.

[Tyler]

However we're not going to deny analytics that's we're not sworn cops anymore. We can talk stereotypes, we can talk analytics crime statistics that you're. These guys tell you they lie. They lie. Your police admin and your city council lie to you. They're doctored.

[Lewis]

Did you. Did you get the information on what's or nuts from did from the D.C. chief?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Man, he looks excited like you saw Christmas.

[Mike]

I made fun of her a bunch and then they. She's getting like arrested. She was cooking the D.C. chief that just resigned got caught cooking the books like bringing the crime rates down, systematically lowering numbers and making it look like.

[Lewis]

They were very safe.

[Tyler]

Politics, baby. No one's safe.

[Mike]

Well, there was like, 30 shootings a weekend.

[Jimmy]

You guys will agree with this. So anytime a new chief comes in, crime goes up.

[Mike]

Yeah, because they're.

[Jimmy]

They're.

[Mike]

Yeah, they don't have books yet. Correct. Yeah.

[Tyler]

I mean, like, for instance, when I was a new cop, I was being told, I learn. You. You come out of the academy, you learn what a burglary is. I mean, there's like, 10 things that you just learn. You have to know. A burglary in Florida means that you entered a curtilage residence. Whatever they define, you entered somewhere and you committed a crime. Usually it's theft. Right. That's a burglary. I was getting. So if you enter a car, it's a. And you commit a crime, if I punch you through your window, technically, it's a burglary.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

With a battery.

[Tyler]

It's a battery, but it's a burglary. They were saying. They were. They were saying. No, that's not a burglary. That's a. Like a. Like a grand theft. With this and that.

[Mike]

Punching into occupied clothing.

[Tyler]

No, I was saying, like. Like a robber or a burglary would be turned into a grand theft.

[Jimmy]

Just dumb it down a little.

[Tyler]

Yeah, with a. With a trespass.

[Jimmy]

Well, you break into a car, you steal a gun. That's an armed burglar.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So don't write it up as an armed burglary. Just write it up as a burglary.

[Tyler]

And a grand theft. Because that. An armed burglary on paper looks bad. Yeah, it's like, oh, my God. Armed burglaries are happening in our area. When in. In all reality. Maybe not. Maybe it was somebody broke into a car, stole a gun. Armed burglary. Yeah, and they don't want to put that in there. But you can't do that. If. If that's the statute, that's the statue.

[Mike]

They'll call it a theft.

[Lewis]

Yeah, it's like, how many people died.

[Tyler]

Of COVID How many.

[Lewis]

That was. That was dope.

[Tyler]

How many of you guys have seen the Wire? No. What? You're sitting here quoting the Shield, and you've never seen the wire? It's an HBO show.

[Lewis]

You've seen a lot of Justified 20.

[Tyler]

20 years ago.

[Mike]

Paul, this is my late friend Paul, gave me the entire DVD set of it, and I've never watched it. Well, it's one of the greatest shows ever.

[Tyler]

It is. It's. It's longer. It's not action packed. Like the shield, it's a little bit more drawn. It's an HBO show. They.

[Mike]

Yeah, they'd rather.

[Tyler]

But one. I forget what season, but one of the chiefs was. Had pressure. One of the. I think he was under the chief had pressure, his area, full crime. And they were like, dude, if you don't get this crime down, you're gone. It might have been the chief. So he corn quarantined an entire area of the city and told all his cops to stay out of it. And all crime was legal in there. Non violent crime was legal in there. Told his officers stay out of the area. And crime in the city. City went down dramatically. And they loved it until they found out what he did. Right. But I mean, it probably happened somewhere.

[Mike]

So you're calling for quarantining?

[Lewis]

I mean, I'm more borderline calling for.

[Tyler]

A purge once a year.

[Lewis]

I'm good with it.

[Tyler]

My dad always told me when I was a kid, he was a. He was a frustrated cop. And I was a little. I was a little kid, maybe six, and he goes, tyler one day a year. People just need to see what it's like to not have first responders. And they would change their mind immediately. And then they ended up making a movie about it.

[Mike]

Like, move to New Jersey. Go to New York City. Go to Tampa, Philadelphia.

[Tyler]

It doesn't seem to work. Baltimore, they just seem to move and come to Florida.

[Lewis]

No, don't move to Florida. Stay the hell out. We're full.

[Tyler]

Let's move on. Bondi shooting now. We're going to move on to the Afghan pullout that we talked about. Yeah, I'm gonna let Jimmy take the reins on that. Cc, what up? I don't know what.

[Lewis]

It's white ass.

[Tyler]

Don't say it. Yeah.

[Lewis]

Should I not say it?

[Tyler]

Yeah. N word.

[Lewis]

Going hard as. Okay.

[Tyler]

All right, thanks, cc.

[Jimmy]

I learned something new.

[Tyler]

That's an educational.

[Lewis]

Yeah, we're teaching. We're teaching the older folks the. The vernacular of the.

[Tyler]

I learned what unk was last night.

[Mike]

Last week on Thursday night, they called me on spot.

[Jimmy]

I'm just not sure I want to know what the. The Afghan pull out is, though. That doesn't sound good at all.

[Lewis]

Well, that's the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

[Jimmy]

Okay. Yeah, that was.

[Tyler]

That's a little bit more.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

I mean, Mike, as soon as I said pull out, I had to start calling it a retrograde because he. Every time I would say pull out, he would. He would go. I thought he was going to turn into the railroad crossing again.

[Tyler]

All right, so The Afghanistan retrograde pull out evacuation. We, we got our intel from three separate sources.

[Lewis]

That's correct. Actually, it was more, I mean, more than that. But the, the majority of the intel about the screening and vetting came from three different sources.

[Tyler]

Okay. I mean people just. I, I think it was well received. We made, obviously we made a real about it. It did pretty well. But there was one person in there that was arguing that even though probably right. 2, 000 terrorists walking around our, our country is not that big of a deal. I will actually read it.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I mean it's, it's three text walls of, of it's, it's.

[Jimmy]

So when does it become a big deal? At 2001.

[Lewis]

I, I, I, you know, that's the thing is that like, you know, there was a lot of like, people saying like, oh, well, you guys committed war crimes. And it's like, dude, first of all, no, we didn't. We. War crimes. That didn't happen. And if it did, people got smoked for it. People got smoked for not committing war crimes. People got investigated for doing their job.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Being freaked out. This came from Shakeham. Aasa De.

[Lewis]

Let me, let me.

[Tyler]

Sounds like a terrorist. Being freaked out that around 150,000 Afghans were brought to the US after the fall of Kubo was ridiculous because that number is real. But it is not a mystery horde. It is defined. It is a defined relocation effort. And the Congressional Research Service is explicit that between August 2021, in August 2024, nearly150,000 Afghans resetted. Resettled, resided.

[Jimmy]

No, he resettled.

[Tyler]

Resettled in the United States. Thanks. You don't even have the word in front of you. I couldn't even read it.

[Jimmy]

I'm paying attention though.

[Lewis]

That's why he's the chief.

[Tyler]

The whole Afghans equal crime vibe is also backwards. But he just went on and on it.

[Lewis]

The whole crux of the argument was number one. 150. 125 to 150,000 people that could not be vetted in real time that came to the United States is a problem. I don't care if they're from goddamn Russia or Ukraine or France. 100125 to 150,000 people coming here without knowing who the they are. That's a problem. Yeah, go ahead, Mike.

[Mike]

Your wife wants to know why we're letting you read.

[Lewis]

Jesus. Sorry.

[Mike]

Next time.

[Tyler]

You're worse, dude. Bro, I wish I would have screamed. I'm not going. You're pretty good.

[Mike]

I'm not trying to read it.

[Tyler]

Then he blames it on not being able to see.

[Mike]

I can't see. I can't see the real problem. I can see that. I can read every comment.

[Lewis]

Yeah, he's got it. He's over there.

[Tyler]

You went from that. You read a full page?

[Mike]

Yeah, that was a really small.

[Tyler]

Okay. That day it was really small.

[Jimmy]

It was cold in here.

[Tyler]

It was real quick. Yeah, you didn't. We missed the. Me and Mike argued about the. Actually, it was. It was the size of this box. Literally this box. And I go, mike, this is three inches. And he goes, dude, there's no way that's at least five inches. That's two. Two by fours. I'm like, mike, this is three inches. I order stickers all the time. I know what three inches look like. And we're sitting there back and forth and back and forth. No one made a dick joke. No one went, oh, you wouldn't know what three inches.

[Mike]

Well, now you are. It was 3.1. Just so everybody knows they would not.

[Tyler]

Make a box that was 3.1 inches.

[Mike]

That makes 3.1.

[Tyler]

Anyways. All right, back to. Back to Afghanistan. Pull up.

[Lewis]

So the. The125 to150,000 people coming. I don't care if they're coming from the moon with it.

[Tyler]

120.

[Lewis]

So here's the problem. There's. So there were so many big numbers in there. I. It was 125 to 150, 000 in this one shot group of people that went under three different operations, which I'm just going to put it under the blanket of Operation Allies. Welcome. Because that's what everybody knows. I'm going to break down more the three different operations and what they were and kind of give. Give more context to it. But right now, let's just call it operation allies. Welcome. 125 to 150,000.

[Tyler]

Those are safe numbers.

[Lewis]

Those are. Those are the numbers.

[Tyler]

Generous numbers.

[Lewis]

Those are. Those are being very, very conservative.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Lewis]

All right. And of that number, once the screening and vetting process went down and I said this in my. My video, which was, if you.

[Tyler]

I'm enjoying the reels and clips you're making about, dude, I.

[Lewis]

You know what? I suck. I was so monotone and I was so like serious that I. I could not find anything that was really like attention grabbing. And I was like. That was like my first self critique. Like, hey, dude, you need to be more animated.

[Tyler]

You podcast like Mike does by himself.

[Lewis]

Yeah, this is copill. So. Yeah.

[Tyler]

And the corruption, corruption in this county sheriff sucks.

[Mike]

Ask him. Ask him what the second most popular show on the network is.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

But, you know, it was a self critique. And. And I got. I got that critique from some other people that are friends and are like, jimmy, you need to not be serious. Jimmy, you need to be yourself. Like, when you're having conversations with people. And you know what? I take that one on board. People want. People want what they want, and they want to see me crash out.

[Mike]

Let's shrink this down. So 150 is not a big 120. 150.

[Lewis]

125.

[Mike]

Okay. So 125. Let's bring it all the way down.

[Tyler]

It's just.

[Mike]

Would you let 12 people in your house? You had no idea who they were? Yeah, 12 dudes standing outside. I'm gonna say, you have no context of who they are. They're gonna come in your house and just hang out.

[Tyler]

I love it when the people hit the streets and they go, hey, we're doing a. We're doing a form to see if you. If you were you taking a Syrian refugee. And they're like, well, no, I'm not gonna take one in.

[Mike]

Yeah, but we should. But, yeah, just bring that number all the way down. If you went to a party and you were like, all of us, we go to a party and we're like, hey, we're gonna be in the room with 15. Completely unknown. We have no idea. Let's put it this way. They came from a terrorist nation, but they're probably not bad people. But you're gonna hang out with them. You're not gonna be armed. You're just gonna be cool with them, sleep with them, eat with them.

[Lewis]

One of them might be one of them for sure.

[Tyler]

The hell's that noise?

[Mike]

That's not me.

[Tyler]

Dude. That sounded like an alarm. I thought the Mossad was here.

[Mike]

I can't read. This dude doesn't have to know. His phone's three inches away. 3.1.

[Lewis]

You know, if. If one of those people that we're going to be hanging out in the room with was for sure had killed an American soldier in Afghanistan, you wouldn't let him in.

[Tyler]

You wouldn't let.

[Mike]

None of. That's the thing you would let. If I knew one of them was, I would say they. None of them can come in.

[Tyler]

Yeah, nobody.

[Mike]

Nobody allowed in. Sorry, guys.

[Jimmy]

Sorry.

[Mike]

You have to go next door.

[Lewis]

I mean, and. And here's. Here's the problem is that, you know, again, the screening and vetting process was done. And by the way, to the dude that sent the text wall. I know more than you. I know. That's good.

[Mike]

41 minutes and four seconds.

[Lewis]

I, I did a week and a half deep dive into this stuff. I've got sources that you don't even understand.

[Jimmy]

Can you clip that for me? Just that I know more than you part?

[Mike]

Yeah, I'll get it for you.

[Lewis]

I do.

[Tyler]

What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put that in front of something completely different.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Lewis]

I mean, for sure. But I. The thing is, man, I, I really, I really talked to a lot of people and it was a grind, man. And talking to these people and listening to them, the intelligence community, the people that had to do it, they had no time. You know, between the time that those people were on a C17 coming out of Afghanistan to the time that they were on another aircraft flying into the United States. And then once they got here, they became the responsibility of Department of Homeland Security. So DHS had to take over. And there is no cross communication.

[Tyler]

There's no like, hey, here's this packet on this terrorist.

[Lewis]

Yeah, you can't do that because this is, this is siloed information that's top.

[Tyler]

Why can't they?

[Lewis]

Because, well, technically they could. They. They definitely should. It would require a presidential approval. So there's a, an Executive Order 112-333-12333 that was basically put into place after everything that happened with Martin Luther King, which basically says the int. Department of Defense cannot be providing information or, or helping out law enforcement like the FBI on people that reside within the United States. So once those people came here, that means that DOD cannot go, hey, we got this. We got his DNA off a detonator on to an IED that went off in Afghanistan that killed three soldiers and wounded two others.

[Tyler]

We.

[Lewis]

They can't give it to DHS.

[Jimmy]

So what you're telling me is the 120, 150,000 that came in, even when they one that said, oh, we got a. Yeah, they didn't just put them on a plane to send them back.

[Lewis]

They couldn't because they can't.

[Jimmy]

They chill out amongst us.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

What's if there are legalities that they can't hear?

[Lewis]

So there's an executive order number one. Okay, that's the first problem. The second problem is that this is all siloed information. This is all stuff that like, first of all, I mean, I was never a cop, but if I provide you intelligence, aren't you gonna ask the question like, hey, how did you get this? Yeah, I mean, does that. I don't know. I'm asking, like, if. So if I. If you're, you know, deputy chief and I go, hey, this person right here, 100 a terrorist. Here's.

[Jimmy]

Where'd you get that from?

[Lewis]

Is that what you're gonna ask?

[Jimmy]

Of course. Okay. Bring the receipt.

[Lewis]

You can't. I can't tell you how I got that.

[Mike]

We can't do that.

[Jimmy]

Well, he's still not coming.

[Mike]

In my law enforcement world, we can't do anything with that.

[Jimmy]

No, not at all.

[Mike]

You have to be able to name your source.

[Tyler]

That's the point.

[Lewis]

Problem right there. I can't tell you because it's some, you know, hey, we got this off of bats and hides and signals intelligence and, oh, by the way, this is. This person right here was a spy for the National Security Agency. I can't tell you.

[Mike]

Well, the devil's advocate to that is like, ill intentions. Like, I could just be like, I don't want Tyler coming in, so I'm gonna go tell that intel source that Tyler's a terrorist.

[Lewis]

And then he's not, which also does happen.

[Mike]

Then I. Then they're like, well, how did you get it? Well, I can't tell you. Well, I made it up.

[Tyler]

I would be like, well, Tyler's not coming in.

[Mike]

Yeah, I don't care. But it goes both ways because it's like, well, you can't make them. You can't tell me where it's from. But by not being able to anyone. Well, I'm cool with that, but.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Mike]

I mean, we kind of have the federal laws, I'm pretty sure that say that nobody could just walk in our country. There's rules and all those things.

[Tyler]

That's a theory.

[Lewis]

Under. Under the. Under the Biden administration, Operation Allies welcome waived a lot of things. They gave. They gave them special statuses. I'm gonna go into that too, but a lot of them are on parole. They're. They're on parole. That. That expired a year ago. And they have not reported in. They haven't come back. They haven't. We don't know where they are.

[Mike]

That's why ICE is doing jump outs, isn't it?

[Lewis]

Yeah, but I mean, again, these people that. I mean, so I. I passed this information last week. Gary, if. If you are a law enforcement officer and you pull somebody over, you have contact with somebody, and you look at their driver's license, and it says 11 1980, and it's 50 million consonants in their name, okay, that guy probably came over in Operation I was welcome.

[Mike]

And they could wrestle really good and.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Understand. Yeah. Afghans. Afghans are tiny. And you can.

[Mike]

I mean, like, hold them up.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

So how about this? If hypothetically, all of a sudden a group of people started rounding up straight white males, you think anybody would care? No. You think of being out. No. Going the other way. Like, you can't round up illegal immigrants from South America, Mexico. You can't rally. Round up illegal people from. But I would think you would have the entire Democratic Party be fine if they voted for Trump. And they're white.

[Lewis]

They've literally called for that. So get rid of them.

[Mike]

And I don't think anybody would say a word.

[Tyler]

You know what somebody brought up, but I totally forgot about that. We don't talk about as a nation. One of the many things we don't talk about is the Japanese concentration camps we had during World War II.

[Lewis]

Hey, who was.

[Tyler]

The death march.

[Jimmy]

Death March of Baton?

[Tyler]

Yeah, that was in Japan.

[Jimmy]

No, we had camps here.

[Mike]

Yeah. I thought we had canceled, like, California.

[Lewis]

The Baton death march was in, but we killed him. The Philippines.

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

We didn't kill anybody in. You sure?

[Lewis]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Tyler]

You're talking about Wounded Knee. Wounded Knee.

[Lewis]

We marched the Indians and.

[Mike]

No, no.

[Tyler]

The Japanese camps that we just went door to door.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, we rounded them up and put them in camp.

[Tyler]

We didn't on record kill any.

[Lewis]

No, we didn't kill any.

[Tyler]

Yeah, so they're kill.

[Jimmy]

We just kept them safe until the whole mess was.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we were looking out for them. Yeah.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Thanks, Uncle Sam.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Then I think we gave him a nice piece of property in the desert somewhere. Oh, no, I'm thinking of the Indians I'm Sorry party dude.

[Lewis]

That. That was a Democrat, by the way, that did that. Yeah, fdr. Yeah, FDR was. Was in charge of that whole. Bang.

[Mike]

A specific group of people bombed us. And then we rounded those specific groups of people up. Yes, we supported it.

[Tyler]

It's not a crazy.

[Mike]

I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm not saying it's wrong. Yeah, I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying.

[Tyler]

Let's do these analysis.

[Mike]

Cautionarity is like, if that. If those three dogs always bite me, I'm not gonna. Like, I'm either gonna quarantine them or I'm. Or we're gonna get rid of them. But, like, if. So if that group of people did xyz, it seems logical, like, we might. We want to recheck these people. So now we're here in 2025, and you have known terrorists coming in, and there's a group. Half the United States is like, don't be mean.

[Tyler]

You can't do nothing.

[Lewis]

They have rights.

[Mike]

And it's like they kill us.

[Lewis]

Is Justin's wife pregnant?

[Mike]

I have no idea.

[Lewis]

Because he just said Mary's 2cm dilated, maybe.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Justin's cop's wife is Lupe. Okay.

[Lewis]

Okay.

[Tyler]

So, Justin, who's Mary?

[Lewis]

I think he means the virgin.

[Mike]

Yeah. You know, he's getting that. He's making a joke now. Jesus is about to be born.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Why didn't you say anything about ged?

[Mike]

I like to hear you guys talk.

[Tyler]

I had a 3.7.

[Mike]

I feel you, Justin. I got your joke.

[Lewis]

Oh, man. Oh, man.

[Tyler]

So, I mean, some things, he's paid for it, but we can't say them.

[Lewis]

Yeah, we can't.

[Mike]

So the bottom.

[Lewis]

Accepting terrorist funds, the bottom line for me on all of this is there are a shitload of people in the United States that 100, based on the intelligence that we have, they killed American soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines. They were responsible.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's. They're documented.

[Lewis]

That's. That's a fact. That's just the ones we caught.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that. That we like. And then. But now, because of the siloed information, because you guys are. If I come to the chief and I go, hey, man, I'm from dhs. Here's. Here's the info on this that resides in your jurisdiction. I need you to go send out your SWAT guys and roll them up. You're gonna go, no, I'm not doing that.

[Tyler]

Why didn't we build something in a neutral area to bring all these people to?

[Lewis]

So we had the lily pads, but they were just for short term. I mean, like, when I went through all of the. The different places that Everybody went, it's 15 countries outside the United States. These people went to 15 different.

[Tyler]

And I'm sure those countries were like, you're not leaving them here.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that's exactly what they said.

[Tyler]

Y' all are not.

[Lewis]

Yeah. So, I mean. And remember, a lot of these were in the Middle East. So this is. Is Dubai and Abu Dhabi. This is Bahrain, this is Qatar. This is Saudi Arabia, this is Kuwait. This is, you know, all of these places. And they were like, yeah, you're not. You're not keeping them here. You take them wherever they're going to go.

[Tyler]

Did they allow us to bring them there?

[Lewis]

They were brought on to our military installations that are in these places?

[Tyler]

That's another question. How do we have military installations in other countries? Yes. How they. How do they allow it? Do they benefit from it?

[Lewis]

Yeah, they'd benefit. They benefit a lot from it.

[Jimmy]

Absolutely.

[Lewis]

First of all, Mike's an idiot, and he has gad. He wants to know why Americans spend a lot of money out in town in a lot of these places, number one. Number two, when we come in, we build the infrastructure up because we need the. We need the roads, we need the power, we need. We need all of this to happen. Number three, if we're here, we might get attacked, but if we get attacked, you know, the big stick is coming. Like.

[Tyler]

Like. So we have a basis in Saudi Arabia.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah, we've had bases. Saudi Arabia. Aren't they the Desert Storm?

[Tyler]

Aren't they a wealthier country than we are?

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah.

[Lewis]

I don't know if they're wealthier, but they definitely have a lot. They don't.

[Tyler]

Why do they need us?

[Lewis]

They. They had some neighbors to the north that. Yeah, Iraq that invaded Kuwait and then was. And did a small spoiling attack into Saudi Arabia. And this is. This is, by the way, you're getting into the start of Al Qaeda. This is the start of Al Qaeda right here. So when. When Russia invaded Afghanistan, we brought some Saudi rich guy over and sent him to a lot of military training in the United States. His name was Asaba bin Laden. And we had him. We gave him money, we gave him Stinger missiles, we gave him all kinds of stuff to kill Russians. And he went over and killed a shitload of Russians for us with the help of the CIA and a few other people. Once that was over, Cold War pretty much ended not long after that. And then Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait and was planning to go into Saudi Arabia, and Sadh and Osama bin Laden went to the Saudi royal family and said, hey, I'll just. Just help me get my Mushedin guys from Afghanistan. Help them. Get them. Get them over here to Saudi Arabia, and I'll fight Saddam Hussein for you. And they were like, we're not bringing those people in here.

[Tyler]

No.

[Lewis]

And they went, hey, United States oil, Please defend it. And we were like, america, oil usually comes up. Yeah.

[Tyler]

At some point you said that. It's always oil.

[Mike]

There's always oil money. Yeah. So I don't think we help anybody just because we care.

[Lewis]

No, we do not.

[Tyler]

No. I mean, what was that. What was that genocide going on? Rwanda.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Nobody cared. Yeah. We didn't go. I mean, people were being busy.

[Mike]

Machetes you guys got, like, sand and trees, like, huts.

[Tyler]

That's a jungle.

[Mike]

Huts and wild animals and stuff. We're good.

[Lewis]

So Saddam or Not Saddam.

[Tyler]

Is there oil in Africa? No. That's why Africa is a show.

[Lewis]

No, but you know what? There is over there.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

There's all kinds of heavy. Heavy metals for, like, building batteries.

[Tyler]

Bruce Willis and his guides and Tears of the sun went in there out of the kindness of their hearts.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

That was a great movie, by the way.

[Lewis]

I think Tim Kennedy was there.

[Tyler]

Of course he was. I think.

[Lewis]

I think he. I think he was in Africa. I'm not. I'm not even, like, making jokes. I think he. I think he.

[Tyler]

I swear to God, I feel like I'm married to you. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's fine.

[Mike]

I'm looking at. I'm stretching my arm and I'm looking at the screen.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Clint.

[Lewis]

Clint said. Can you imagine being a Joe on CQ with Jimmy?

[Mike]

Like, I sit like this all day. I'd switch positions to stretch. My back is. My left knee hurts.

[Lewis]

You gotta do the thing.

[Mike]

I'm literally like. My knee hurts while I'm sitting down.

[Jimmy]

Is this why you invited me? Did you want me in between here?

[Lewis]

Like, dude, he's not doing anything. He's. He got the bullet in his neck, for Christ's sake.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he's fine, Mike. What's your excuse?

[Mike]

I'm not doing.

[Jimmy]

I'm scooting back.

[Mike]

I literally am like, my back is killing me. And I was literally, like, stretching my back. I swear to God, I'll say whatever.

[Tyler]

Don't bring it up later.

[Mike]

Oh, my God, dude.

[Tyler]

So military bases everywhere else in the world?

[Lewis]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Mike]

I'm going to 1 7. Which one can I go to?

[Lewis]

You're going on a cruise.

[Tyler]

Mike going on a cruise tomorrow.

[Mike]

Yes. I can't wait. Justin, good luck. It's all yours, Justin.

[Tyler]

From Donut Shots. Filling in on Monday from Mike.

[Lewis]

It's gonna be a lot of fun.

[Mike]

I will. I'll remote in. Where will I be Monday?

[Lewis]

You've looked it up.

[Mike]

Saturday I'll be on. Oh, yeah. I'll be on the. At the private island, which will have good service.

[Tyler]

Okay. So hopefully your knee feels good.

[Lewis]

That's why we have bases everywhere.

[Mike]

Yes. Everything will feel good not being around this atmosphere.

[Tyler]

Sorry. No. No more interruptions.

[Lewis]

It's just the way it goes. I told people on the show, I was like, antihero is not the place where I can go deep. Balls deep.

[Tyler]

You can't fully nerd out I can't.

[Lewis]

No, I can't.

[Jimmy]

And.

[Lewis]

And that's okay, you know, like, there's people hurt.

[Mike]

I'm trying to be nice. If you want me to start making jokes, I'll start making jokes.

[Lewis]

Then you're gonna.

[Mike]

Everybody's gonna get mad. We'll have live in the comments, and everybody will be upset. And then Mike will be the. So I'm trying to be nice.

[Tyler]

Don't.

[Lewis]

Don't. Don't catch me in the car.

[Tyler]

It's like, if you shoot.

[Jimmy]

Don't shoot me.

[Mike]

I dropped. I injected 2.5 ccs of steroids this morning.

[Tyler]

Really? Yes.

[Lewis]

We're there now.

[Mike]

My last shot before I leave.

[Tyler]

Oh, man, you're getting. You're getting cut up.

[Mike]

Yeah, I could. I could. I could stop that train on that train video right now.

[Lewis]

Force.

[Mike]

I got people walk around. Jim go, dude, you're right, man. You don't stop. I'm like, yeah, bro.

[Jimmy]

I'm. That's why he looks all upset.

[Mike]

Rocket fuel, man.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Floyd rage. Yes. Let me be.

[Mike]

I'm stretching.

[Lewis]

Oh, man.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna go sit over by Lewis.

[Mike]

I'm very peaceful until somebody makes fun of me for five minutes straight. I'm still not even mad.

[Lewis]

Oh, my God. Hey.

[Jimmy]

So going back to the Abu Dhabi thing.

[Lewis]

Funny story.

[Jimmy]

I lived in Abu Dhabi.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

In the early 80s.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And Osama bin Laden used to come over there all the time. He was well respected. They loved him over there.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah. He was a hero.

[Jimmy]

He was.

[Lewis]

He was a hero. And he was from a very affluent side.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yes, he was.

[Tyler]

And you talk about money.

[Jimmy]

They don't pay taxes, you know, they get paid dividends.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

So, I mean, he. I think it's. I think his family was. They owned like a tractor company or something like that. Agriculture or something.

[Jimmy]

Camel shaving company.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. You know, but at the.

[Mike]

At shave, camels, I don't know.

[Tyler]

Probably like sheep, right? No, no, no.

[Jimmy]

They're not like alpaca.

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

Shaving sheep. There is, like, shaving pubes for them.

[Lewis]

I mean. I mean, you. I mean, how many.

[Tyler]

You're cheap as bush. My sheep does not bush.

[Lewis]

I mean, you know, how many videos are floating around of. Of.

[Tyler]

Of.

[Lewis]

Of people, you know, filmed by American service members through flir. Yeah. Goats and cheese.

[Mike]

We need a. We need a reel of all Tyler's racial.

[Tyler]

I think Kenny's probably the best for that.

[Lewis]

Kenny. Kenny's been going ham since the. Since the railroad cross boxing incident. He's been.

[Mike]

With his moon landing. It's like a basketball.

[Lewis]

He had two on. He came on the show, he had two heads.

[Tyler]

It didn't really change when he took.

[Lewis]

The first one off.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that'll be tonight, by the way. Good times. Let the good times roll. Thursday nights.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Then I'll tell you guys why I'm mad tonight. I'm just kidding. That's an actual. Well, I'll tell you what I was gonna say. I couldn't say was bad. It was really bad. Yeah, it's an awful joker type stuff.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

So, you know, as far as the people that go into the comments on the, on the pull out of Afghanistan, majority of them were like, holy, I had no idea. Or holy crap, can you talk more about this? Or, you know, like, there's just a lot of stuff that was out there.

[Mike]

I just, like, I don't go in the comments. I feel very proud of myself.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I'm.

[Tyler]

Sometimes I do. Just to kind of like stay relevant.

[Mike]

You know, like every now and then I pop in. But my, my wife, even the very little nice thing she says about me is like. She's like, I have no idea how you can do that. I'll go in and say one thing.

[Tyler]

You pump and don't.

[Mike]

And I just go. And I avoid that one. I avoid that one notification screen that shows where somebody mentioned you. Like, where mentions that show somebody mentioned. I just scrape right over it because I don't even want to see it.

[Tyler]

I mean, there's the difference. I, I can't speak for Mike, but for me, I, I go out of my way to cause ripples in the spirit. I, I know that that's going. What I post and what I say is going to ruffle feathers. So when Jimmy goes in there, you're actually trying to be intellectual, knowledgeable. You're trying to teach, trying to learn. You're trying to be humble. And so I think a lot of your people that reply to you aren't as nasty by nature because they're just arguing with you. Yeah, some people are, but I mean.

[Lewis]

With those, I mean, like, for example, you know, I made the comment like, you know, somebody was like, so you think that they deserve to die? I said, no, I think they got the government and the laws that they deserve. And if that's the fallout, then they got what they deserve.

[Tyler]

And then I quit me going, absolutely, they do.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

And I'm. Look, I can say absolutely and unequivocally that I don't think any of those people should be. Have been killed, but the laws Prevented them from defending their selves. And here we are in the United States.

[Tyler]

Let's do a fun game. Oh, God.

[Lewis]

Here we go.

[Tyler]

This is a fun game. We're gonna. You. He's a good three counts good before.

[Jimmy]

Better than he reads.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

All right. Everybody's gonna get a piece of paper.

[Jimmy]

Lewis.

[Lewis]

Hand them out.

[Tyler]

If. If you think if they were like, if the government intel. No hoax, no conspiracy theory, if it was fact, right? If we could actually live in a world of fact that these 150, 000 out of these 150, 000 immigrants, there will be a massive attack on u. S. Soil. Someone from that 150.

[Lewis]

Okay, do we have to delete the ones that have already done it? Because one of them.

[Jimmy]

One point.

[Lewis]

One of them already shot two cops.

[Tyler]

They're out 149, 900. Yeah.

[Lewis]

And the other one shot two National Guard members.

[Tyler]

We're gonna make this fun. It's gonna be something that you could never say on live tv.

[Lewis]

Oh, wow.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

If the only answer we've given up.

[Lewis]

On going to the radio.

[Tyler]

If the only answer was to forever lock them away in a concentration camp in America and never let them out.

[Jimmy]

Absolutely not.

[Tyler]

No.

[Jimmy]

Why would they for?

[Tyler]

You're supposed to write it on this.

[Jimmy]

Oh, absolutely not.

[Tyler]

You would not what?

[Jimmy]

Allow any of them.

[Tyler]

No, you lock them all in?

[Jimmy]

No, I put them all out. Get them out. Why are we paying for them? We're not gonna lock them in here.

[Mike]

Put them out.

[Jimmy]

The planes came.

[Tyler]

Okay, we'll make it. No one say anything. Cheapest way to get rid of somebody. You write a y.

[Mike]

Cheapest way to get rid of somebody.

[Tyler]

This way to get rid of somebody. You take that as you want.

[Jimmy]

Everybody write a wise way to get rid of somebody.

[Tyler]

What do you think that is, huh? What's the cheapest way to get rid of somebody? Kill them. What?

[Lewis]

Yeah. I mean, are we talking about military only?

[Jimmy]

Are we trying to make them go away forever? I wrote my away from.

[Tyler]

No, the cheap. We're getting them away the cheapest way possible. You trust the government to do what they need to do to get rid of these possible terrorists. And whatever they do, whatever they do, you go, government don't charge that.

[Mike]

We're going to take care of the problem and you don't charge. You go, yes or no.

[Tyler]

Yes or no. So write your answer. Y or n. They're going to get rid of them.

[Lewis]

You don't need to know how.

[Mike]

Yeah, kind of like that. Kind of like that scene from you like the quote. We're gonna go do this. We're gonna do whatever we got to do. Jimmy, Sobriety test last week.

[Jimmy]

I think I understood the instructions. I'm not.

[Tyler]

Okay, so the four votes are in. You would allow the government to handle a large population in the United States how they see fit for the cheapest way possible. No boundaries, no nothing. It's off your conscience. You never have to think about it again.

[Jimmy]

Now you're changing the.

[Tyler]

The rule. No, I'm not.

[Jimmy]

Come on.

[Tyler]

Why?

[Jimmy]

I think Germany tried this.

[Tyler]

For yes. That's why. For yes. Yes. Where's.

[Lewis]

Where.

[Tyler]

Where's the other one?

[Lewis]

You vote. You. You're.

[Mike]

I did.

[Tyler]

I wrote.

[Mike]

Did you drop one?

[Tyler]

Mine's right here.

[Mike]

You had four of them.

[Jimmy]

Lewis, what color pin do you have? Oh, he didn't have one, did he, Louis?

[Lewis]

Lewis abstained.

[Mike]

Did you drop one from the vote?

[Tyler]

There's one on the floor.

[Jimmy]

It's under you. Oh, it is?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Got it. And no.

[Jimmy]

No.

[Tyler]

The reason why there's a no, is it because I can't tie anybody into saying yes. Now, if everybody had said yes, you could articulate that. All of us, you can know what we said, but there is a no in there. Mm. So at least three out of four people agreed in this room that they trust the government to get rid of a hostile population.

[Lewis]

I didn't trust the government to bring them in, but if you want to get them out, you're pretty fast.

[Tyler]

Your mistake.

[Lewis]

Yeah, fix your mistake. Yes. I'm voting yes.

[Tyler]

But I love how you said, all jokes aside. You said no. Dealing with it here would cost us as taxpayers millions of dollars. Yeah.

[Mike]

So we bring them over here, but that. Bring them over here to pay for. That was the original scenario, which was housing and hold.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The other answer is any means necessary.

[Lewis]

Dude, that's. That's not even.

[Mike]

He said that.

[Tyler]

Germany's big, not me.

[Lewis]

Here's. That's not even. I gotta. I gotta figure out how to do a FOIA request. Because I do.

[Tyler]

About.

[Jimmy]

It's easy.

[Mike]

30 a week.

[Lewis]

Okay. Because I gotta. I have to do a FOIA request.

[Tyler]

To the federal government and ask about how many Jews. Actually. No. No. Okay.

[Lewis]

It's. Thought we were getting somewhere.

[Tyler]

The.

[Lewis]

The cg, the commanding general of either Fort Pickett or Fort Lee, had a whole, like, about. I think it was 7,000 of them. 7,000 Afghans. And it was during Christmas exodus. And since he didn't want to tell people they couldn't go on leave to, you know, make sure that these people stayed where they went. He sent them on. He was like, hey, you guys are on parole. You can walk out the gate. We'll see you in a.

[Jimmy]

Never to be seen again.

[Lewis]

About two thirds of them, depending on the numbers, either 2/3 or 90, did not come back.

[Tyler]

Why would they?

[Mike]

Exactly.

[Lewis]

So we don't even know who those people are.

[Mike]

Like, where are they?

[Lewis]

Who are they? Did they get. I mean, we got nothing on them. I mean, they could have got all the way to California or one of those other states and got all the stuff.

[Jimmy]

Truck drivers in California, you know, I.

[Lewis]

I mean, I actually saw a comment on my video that said. I think it was mine. It might have been Yalls, though. It was. You know, he was a. The guy was a cop during all this stuff. And they made a shitload of overtime protecting these.

[Mike]

That's one thing about being a cop. Anytime something bad happens, there's a lot of money, A lot of money involved.

[Jimmy]

We love hurricane season.

[Lewis]

So.

[Tyler]

Hurricane season, Covid go to work as a cop. I was being paid off duty detail money to go stand by while employees were being laid off at businesses. So these businesses would pay us $80 an hour to stand there all day while they laid off their own. How up is that? It's not anybody's fault. It's not. I'm not trying to blame them. It's just the world that is a up thing. Like, I'm being paid more because the world's falling apart.

[Mike]

The fact that we fell for that as a nation and it's only been a few years and we're still not outraged about it is.

[Tyler]

Is.

[Mike]

Is very concerning to me. We fell for one of the biggest hoaxes in.

[Lewis]

In history.

[Mike]

The flu went away. There was no flu app. No, there was no flu. Them. Them years. And it was all covered. And they conducted the largest social experiment in the history of the United States of America.

[Jimmy]

Remember the counter?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

On tv.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

And everybody did it.

[Jimmy]

We had a death counter. Death ticker on TV.

[Mike]

Yeah. It was like the PB. The. Like the donation things. We hit 1 million. We got 1 million dead. Send money.

[Jimmy]

Send money.

[Mike]

We need to help him.

[Jimmy]

A time when we had a death joker on our TV from Joe Rogan.

[Lewis]

Just dropped the reel not too long ago where he's like, here's. He's like, here we are. I'm getting Slam dunked in 2020 and 2021 saying, I'm not taking a vaccine. And people are telling me, if you're not taking your vaccine, then you need to just go ahead and Start making out your will. And now here we are in 2025 and people, some magazine goes like, oh yeah, actually the COVID vaccine linked to a lot of heart problems.

[Tyler]

Well, they.

[Mike]

And they were filtering. Joe Rogan.

[Lewis]

Yeah, sick.

[Mike]

They were showing pictures of him.

[Lewis]

Filtering.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah. Figure something sick. And then that one of the most bizarre videos was the. Was it the mayor of New York or the governor of New York was eating the. You got a free burger and fries for getting a COVID vaccine. He's like sitting on tv, look at these fries. Oh, you got a burger with Sell your soul.

[Tyler]

He's like eating burgers, burger, fries for.

[Mike]

Free to go get this vaccine.

[Jimmy]

They were offering a hundred dollars government to pay you 100 bucks. You go get vaccine.

[Mike]

That was. I mean we felt, I mean we fell for it.

[Lewis]

First of all, if we had been saying what we are saying right now.

[Mike]

Now 2020, we got locked up, nuked.

[Tyler]

At least the YouTube channel would have been nuked. All right, let's take a commercial break. The last hour is going to be where we freestyle and we talk about where the. We want like, jeez. What? Run that commercial.

[Mike]

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[Lewis]

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[Mike]

How's my mic off? What? Reset. Every time I had to put the.

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Sound back, it just resets your mic.

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[Tyler]

That's new.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

Put your wife up. What's that story? I remember the sticker so when they.

[Mike]

Were handing out the most misguided and over discipline in history of law enforcement, when I got demoted, my wife's allegation was There was a crackhead crazy woman running around the yard screaming and yelling at us. And the husband. My wife simply said two things. Do you want your neighbors to know the caliber of people you are? Because they were acting like morons. And then she said, sir, why don't you put your wife up? She got suspended 40 hours.

[Tyler]

We're telling 40 out.

[Mike]

We have guys that have stolen on duty. We've had guys that have stalked women.

[Jimmy]

On saying something that needed to be done.

[Mike]

She said, put your wife up. She got suspended 40 hours.

[Tyler]

That's common knowledge for every man, though. Yeah, you need to. Your old lady needs to be on a leash. If she's barking, she ain't rep. If she ain't representing you, Ryan Felipe.

[Lewis]

Shut that up before I come over here and start her head.

[Tyler]

But, yeah, I mean, the actor, Ryan Felipe.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

He was in a movie.

[Mike]

Oh, okay. I mean, it was a scenario where. I mean. Yeah, it was. It was. It's all on video. And.

[Tyler]

And that was a nice way of saying it, too. Put your wife.

[Mike]

All the things cops say and all the things I've heard. The same administration that. Oh, my goodness. Said. I mean, it was obvious it was targeted.

[Tyler]

It's me.

[Mike]

I'm biased, but you can watch a video. And so I created the shirt hat. Put your wife up. And it's actually. Who did I run into? I was talking to a guy last night, a fishing guy back home. Steve Coleman. Used to work with me at the sheriff's office. And he says. That's a common phrase. He tells people their wife starts barking. He's like, put your leg up, dude. Wife up. It's got the Cobble logo on the back. They're for sale on the website. There's also shirts, black and white. I like the white one. I have no idea what happened to it. I had a white shirt, and that's from the back of my.

[Lewis]

I like the GTA Vice City font that you have.

[Mike]

Yeah. Ripped it right off of.

[Tyler]

No, that's not Vice City. That's GTA 3 font.

[Lewis]

Is it?

[Tyler]

Yeah, just Vice City is Cotville.

[Mike]

It's gta, though.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I go to the GTA font generator. A lot of my stuff that I have, the what would Jerry do stickers and gta. I have IA Some IA jokes and all that.

[Tyler]

But, yeah, Cotville's website. Let's get back to it. The jail video. So, okay, I said the thing before we went on commercial break. Is this.

[Mike]

This important? Because you. The last word you said before break was very important.

[Tyler]

Jews. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna.

[Mike]

I'm saying, is this. Is this about that? No, I have a juice thing.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

Okay. Yeah, I do. Story, bro.

[Jimmy]

Kicking off the second half.

[Mike]

Story out of the New York State Police. So Michael Plakin is the same guy who indicted Saladrati. Okay, so there is a. He made a pact he was going to fire one of the Commander, Colonel Sean Kill Combs of New Jersey State Police back in 2024 allegedly said that Jew about black kid. Blacken's out in like three weeks. So now out of all he's gone. January, new AG takes over. He went all in on this cop and there he's. He's gonna have to resign before the end of the year. So he's quitting. But I was told on the inside he never made that comment. It was all fabricated. And just like Sal's case was pushed by the AG and he. They've like with this guy bad. He's like, I'm done. And they're like, well, you're not.

[Tyler]

Did he make the comment or not?

[Mike]

No, he didn't. So his mom is a Republican donor. So he's got like.

[Tyler]

So where are they saying the comment was made?

[Mike]

They're just saying somebody overheard it. They're just doing what they do.

[Tyler]

Making up.

[Lewis]

Yes.

[Mike]

So I'm told. He was like, I'm resigning. Put this two weeks in. They're like, they call the next day like, you have a drug test. And he goes, I'm not going.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

They sent a. Like an armed unit to his house is get in the car.

[Tyler]

How you.

[Lewis]

You resign?

[Mike]

He didn't resign yet. He put his two weeks notice him.

[Tyler]

Oh.

[Mike]

So they paid him full day overtime to drive him all the way across the state to get the drug test back. And now he's done. But that just what I'm getting at is like that goes to show you the power and the crookedness of this Placket guy up in Jersey that he targeted a cop on his way out who said, I'm going in 2024. He said it. This is almost 2026. The dude's on his way out and he's like, it, I'm going all in. And he went heavy on this commander and that's the same guy that's going after Sal.

[Tyler]

What a.

[Mike]

What a crazy world, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Thing to do.

[Lewis]

The. The intel community is dealing with a lot of the same problems right now.

[Tyler]

What?

[Lewis]

Just political targeting by leftists over this Afghan.

[Tyler]

Okay, all right. What should we.

[Lewis]

No, no, no. We can talk about on a night shift. I'm just.

[Tyler]

I don't want to talk about that. That's more political. That's not.

[Lewis]

I. I was just kind of like, you know, backing him up.

[Tyler]

Well, that you just said, well, that's kind of important.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

The left is freaking out about taking a responsibility for Operation Allies Welcome.

[Lewis]

That's right.

[Tyler]

They're trying to spin a narrative to keep it that. Well, 120, 000 Muslims. The.

[Lewis]

The big one was people that, like, were basically threatened with. Hey, even though we know this, you get. That's why it's such a big deal that this stuff is coming out now. You asked the question, like, why do we know this now? Because there was a lot of people that wanted to say it, but we're basically told, yeah, you're gonna go to jail for a really long time if you say anything about what you know.

[Tyler]

Because it was con. It was.

[Lewis]

It was. It was classified.

[Tyler]

Classified.

[Lewis]

Right. There is no whistleblower protections for those people.

[Tyler]

What. How did. When did it become open source?

[Lewis]

When Tulsa Gapper took over Tulsi Gabber.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Lewis]

Yeah. So, like, I mean, there's a lot of other things too, but I'm. I'm. I'm basically.

[Tyler]

Of. What?

[Lewis]

She's the. The commander, or she's in charge of the dni. The Director of National. She's the dni.

[Tyler]

She's the Director of National.

[Mike]

There we go.

[Lewis]

Dude, you can't even read.

[Tyler]

I don't even want to hear anything from you, but you run out of breath talking.

[Lewis]

I was thinking. Literally thinking.

[Mike]

All right, I'll tell you if I.

[Tyler]

Do that, because I know.

[Mike]

Because it's funny. Hey, that's that I'd read, man. That's that I'd read breath, man. At the end of that breath, I.

[Lewis]

Used to be able to run 2 miles, 1120. Now I can't get through an ad read without the.

[Tyler]

Yeah, so, I mean, I said, like, obviously, again, we're not. We're an edgy piece podcast. But there. Should we break the fourth wall about what we do to. I mean, we got our active listeners here. They. About what we do about, like, how we operate the show and. Or should we just. No, no, no. All right, then I apologize for nothing.

[Mike]

I don't even know what you're talking about.

[Tyler]

The jail video. Everybody was so up in arms and.

[Lewis]

You were the bad guy. You're the heel in all that was the Scott Steiner.

[Mike]

You are. Because you're. Dude, I can't imagine what you're using.

[Tyler]

Dude, the comments like what? When I was a kid, can you.

[Lewis]

Imagine being in charge of these two knuckleheads?

[Tyler]

No. God, no.

[Lewis]

No.

[Tyler]

In the 90s and 2000s, we were all young bucks and we on, I'd say at least 90s, we believe wrestling was real. And I hated the bad guy that came out and said, you, you. And like the crowd sucks. Y' all are all fat. We were like, like, you too. And we wanted to see what that guy did because, oh, we hated him. Wrestling was real then. Apparently we have grown men with the same mindset in our, like, think that like an entertainment show, like, is the real deal. The real deal.

[Jimmy]

Like everything they say.

[Tyler]

So upset. Can we pull it up?

[Jimmy]

They're still stuck in the 90s.

[Mike]

A lot of Lewis.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Pretty much land out.

[Tyler]

Go to Instagram with.

[Lewis]

It's with.

[Jimmy]

It's a jail video.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right. I mean, I think.

[Lewis]

I don't think he's technically in the custody of the jail.

[Tyler]

Well, it's on her. It's on our Instagram profile. Okay, then what in.

[Mike]

I thought I sent it. We watched it on live on Night Shift, didn't we?

[Tyler]

Oh, is it might be an email.

[Jimmy]

A new video or an old video?

[Tyler]

Go down, go back. Go back to where you were.

[Jimmy]

Obviously I'm on top of things.

[Tyler]

Go down, go down, go back up. I think it's the one on the right.

[Mike]

Yeah. It's so bad it's blocked out.

[Tyler]

So make sure every.

[Mike]

Yes. Okay.

[Tyler]

They really do need to streamline this process.

[Mike]

Well, if you have it ready ahead of time.

[Tyler]

Well, my bad.

[Mike]

No, not arrested.

[Tyler]

Arrested for the guy. What is he tripped? I mean, he's resisting. I'm moving him. Oh, my God. I'm trying to get into a better position and when I did so I.

[Mike]

Meant broke his neck.

[Lewis]

Is he dead? Did he die?

[Mike]

No, the guy got.

[Lewis]

No, no, he's just got cte.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's completely.

[Tyler]

You've never. None of us have ever worked in a jail and I guess that's not a jailer.

[Mike]

That's the arresting officer.

[Jimmy]

That's the arresting.

[Tyler]

Oh, he probably had enough of his.

[Mike]

All night goal of arrest.

[Tyler]

We don't know what actually happened that night. Do we have no context what happened leading up to it? What. What is the totality of circumstances in.

[Lewis]

Their relationship for the night? Do you think a prosecutor is going to give a about that?

[Tyler]

Yeah, we have to take that in consideration. Was he violent all night? Did he spit on the officer? Did he try biting the officer at one point?

[Mike]

He is in handcuffs.

[Tyler]

Okay. He's listening.

[Lewis]

Slams. Is that what we're doing now?

[Mike]

The goal of arrest is to what? He's already arrest in custody and get them to the jail. He is in custody and in the jail.

[Tyler]

No, a lot of jails won't accept people until they.

[Mike]

They're definitely not accepting that guy. Take him back to the hospital, get a CAT scan. He's brain is dead.

[Tyler]

Let's watch it one more time. Let's really dissect this.

[Mike]

Oh, there's not much to dissect.

[Tyler]

Resisting arrest video.

[Mike]

It's the most brutal thing.

[Tyler]

He's already arrested, actually. He's trying to escape. That's a felony.

[Mike]

He's trying to escape handcuffed in a lock jail.

[Jimmy]

He's probably.

[Mike]

He's about. And the cop is. Well, look how tall, bigger the cop is.

[Tyler]

It doesn't matter.

[Mike]

It doesn't matter.

[Tyler]

It's called off. What if he. What if the subject says, I know BJJ and I'm a magician and I get out. I'm getting out of here. I'm a magician. I'm getting out of these handcuffs. All right, stop it. At this point, as a, As a consumer of entertainment, right. You saw this for the first time.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I did.

[Tyler]

At some point you're like, by your.

[Jimmy]

Comments, by the way.

[Tyler]

At some point, right, but at some point, some point you're like, there's no way these guys are. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Some part of you has to say, okay, they have taken good cop and backcount here in order for the purpose of entertainment. Which is why.

[Mike]

And turn it up to 11.

[Lewis]

Yes.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. Dimension. You're talking. I mean, the fourth wall. I'm probably the only one that knows watching that. That knows you're completely saying that to get my. You know. And I'm like, you were. That's. We're playing.

[Jimmy]

I think this is the one you warned me about when you invited me here the first time.

[Tyler]

Time.

[Lewis]

Hey.

[Jimmy]

Sometimes, you know, Tyler says things that.

[Mike]

Like, Like Derek Jon's innocent. Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

But like, I mean, at first you watch it 30 seconds and you're like, what the. And then as you continue watching, he's like, okay, he. Maybe he's a magician. He's clearly like doing a thing.

[Mike]

And so you guys can drunk. So it doesn't, you know, be by two beers. Well, you notice I. That's another little. You notice I increased the amount of beers as like by your third one, you've had nine. Like, I always inflate the number. Like I keep it's all part of the show.

[Lewis]

Yeah, it's all part of it.

[Tyler]

But that's the last time we're gonna reference this. So when we're taking over the world with you guys, all of you. All. All of you guys watching right now will know. And that's it. We're not gonna. I just want our close listeners to know I'm not a psychopath. Like, that kind of means a little bit to me.

[Jimmy]

No more peaks behind the curtains.

[Tyler]

Yeah, no more. Exactly.

[Lewis]

So I put aside the deputy chief. If you had. If that was the.

[Jimmy]

I was a captain.

[Tyler]

Stop promoting me.

[Lewis]

I don't need that str.

[Mike]

As the mayor of the city, as.

[Lewis]

A, you know, lord high commander of all justice.

[Jimmy]

I'll take that.

[Lewis]

Okay. As lord high commander of all justice. That comes. That video of that use of force comes to your desk.

[Tyler]

That's a bad one.

[Jimmy]

Well, I'm booking a cruise.

[Mike]

I'm leaving immediately.

[Tyler]

Hey, eight.

[Mike]

We're hitting the hold on Canada today.

[Lewis]

What?

[Mike]

I just remembered. Hold on.

[Jimmy]

It's still there.

[Mike]

There's a hearing today. A group chat got leaked in Canada. It's four years into the investigation. I just remembered this. They were saying things like. I don't know if I could say it. They were saying things like, a certain people should be picking cotton.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

And then they said things like, I'm gonna go out and find a blank. And who's this group chat between three people?

[Tyler]

A Cops.

[Mike]

Three cops. The group chat actually got leaked. It got leaked. And on their hearing today, after three years of being like, through the discipline process in Canada, it's going on at noon Pacific, whatever the time that is. 3:00pm and it's.

[Tyler]

I.

[Mike]

Somebody sent me the video, and it's like the newscast, and they're like. I'm like, every time the news says black guy. I don't think the group chat said black guy. I'm like, I'm pretty sure nobody wrote, we're gonna go find. And the way they said so. But no, that was. I was just thinking about that. We're talking about stuff like there's a hearing today. Three years of investigating. No. In Canada, you're pretty much communist at that point. Like, they have the right. They have like two cell phone carriers. Like, they got all the information, everything was brought in, and I was sent the context.

[Tyler]

Are they at risk of jail time?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

For tax.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Defending any other.

[Lewis]

Can't remember who.

[Tyler]

Other than America. Blows my mind. If you live in Canada, I want none of your opinion about anything we do in this country. Go fix. Well, you can't. It's. It's a. It's pretty much England over there, so it's attached.

[Mike]

And I. What struck me odd was.

[Tyler]

How long.

[Lewis]

America's hat it.

[Jimmy]

How long?

[Mike]

Here we go. Here we go.

[Tyler]

Hold on.

[Mike]

What's it like being a hearing schedule for 9am tomorrow time, 12 Eastern. 12 Eastern. So I'm sorry, it's going on right now. My bad. Code of conduct hearing. Well, the guy said, they're not bad dudes. They're just some dark humor. And then I started watching the news network, and it was. It was pretty dark humor.

[Tyler]

It was. It was that dark.

[Mike]

Yeah, like dark. You know what struck me odd is, like, the guy who sent it to me just casually goes, yeah, I've been out for two years on a use of force complaint. I'm still waiting to go forward and.

[Tyler]

Find out what happens in Canada.

[Mike]

He's out of work. Two years on a use of force, not being paid. No, he's. They like it out. He's like, they're like a jail. They're like, almost in jail, like at a desk, stuck there eight hours a day. They can't move. No gun, no nothing. He's been there two years on, like, a. He tastes. Somebody like that was resisting arrest. Like, basic. Some. We would just take it like, yeah, your guy up there, the resistant guy up there that barely got knocked around. But just think about how crazy that is. A group chat gets leaked. Yeah. There's some insensitive things said that.

[Tyler]

You.

[Mike]

Know, and then four years later, it's going to some hearing today in Canada where they find out their fate. They're looking at, like, charges. Group chat.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Guys, don't let your group chats get leaked. I know, I know. Some of y' all in here have insane group chat.

[Jimmy]

That's why you always have two phones, right?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, one thing I want to touch on you guys talking about. Do you think police departments turning off their comment section. Do you think that's wise of them? Because the whole world is now, like, y' all cannot do pr. I've. I've seen maybe one or two police departments that actually are good at it.

[Lewis]

It's.

[Tyler]

It's not inappropriate, but it also resonates with an average person. That's a very, very hard thing to do.

[Jimmy]

It is.

[Tyler]

And it's. And.

[Jimmy]

And most agencies are getting it wrong right now.

[Tyler]

They are. And so when people are roasting them, and you had one, I think, out in California. I don't remember where it was. It's become such a laughing stock that they can't escape it now.

[Jimmy]

Right?

[Tyler]

People are going to the page.

[Mike]

Oh, the big one is. No, it's Fargo, North Dakota.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Fargo, North Dakota. They're cooked.

[Tyler]

They just can't. You can't win.

[Mike]

It's because they leave them on. And they. But I think something you said the other day. And with the autistic. There's the autistic girl, and then there's the officer, Twink. He's like some skinny little kid, like 90 pounds.

[Lewis]

He looks like me in sniper school.

[Mike]

And I'll tell you, I didn't tell you. There's something happened interesting last night. Where I'm going with this. The one thing you said was if an agency would just go it. We're gonna talk to this dude, Cobbville.

[Tyler]

We're coming on. Yeah.

[Mike]

And we have a dialogue. I'm not gonna be easy. I'll be nice and calm, like on my podcast. I'll be very professional.

[Tyler]

But I think while I'm popping in the chat. But just don't let him in.

[Mike]

I'm gonna tell you a story about what happened last night. I'm sitting in. I'm sitting home last about 10:30, I get a Instagram inbox message about this long about I'm a piece of for. It didn't say that, but it basically tell me. I don't know what I'm talking about with the sheriff. The episode I did. I'm full of and all that. And something, something. And then not a threat, but like, we need to talk. And I said, I'm available right now. And then he said something else. And he started. I said, stop typing so much. Like I was fired up. I'm like, I'm good now. Where do you want to meet? And he said something. You want a phone call or my address? I said, why don't we just go on and debate it? And I went in the room, I hit record, and this dude, I sent him the link, which I've been dying to do. By the end of conversation, we completely were fine. It was. It was. He was mad about one part of it. I cleared up the part that he was misinformed about. We had an adult conversation and we ended it. And I was like, okay, I'm glad we did that. But that's something I'm looking for more of. And that's where Dom and I talked about last night on my episode where Instagram is just people hurling incels behind a fake name. Just stirring the pot.

[Lewis]

I actually said that to one yeah.

[Mike]

And it's like, that's all it is. But hear this guy. And. But I give him credit. Like, how many people. He said, send it it.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So I went, boom.

[Tyler]

You record it.

[Mike]

I did good.

[Tyler]

Really, I did.

[Mike]

No, no. It ended up being like, if it went sideways, I would have. Yeah.

[Tyler]

But wants to see two guys.

[Mike]

The first 20 minutes was nasty. I mean, we went at it, but I realized he didn't. He wasn't supporting the sheriff. He was the guy that kind of got lumped in the. The assistant to the sheriff just kind of lumped into my complaint.

[Tyler]

They went.

[Mike]

They worked together in Connecticut for 25.

[Tyler]

Years defending one of the boys. He it.

[Mike]

And I. I respected it. I said, I understand what you're doing. And by the end of the conversation. The other thing is, he was. He was beyond Jimmy drunk. He was.

[Lewis]

No.

[Mike]

He was annihilated. I thought, I know his wife. And I'm like, I wouldn't release this either way. Like, yeah, this is pretty. He's like, laying on the bed when it started, and then by the end of it, we. He actually missed me. Merry Christmas. But my point of all that is talk, talk, conversate. Like, have a conversation and let's do it.

[Jimmy]

Conversate.

[Mike]

Conversate.

[Lewis]

Yes. That is a word.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so I'm still waiting for the word.

[Tyler]

You came up with the word today.

[Lewis]

What was it?

[Jimmy]

Conversation.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

He's not even impressed by that.

[Tyler]

That's cute.

[Lewis]

I can get some. I can.

[Tyler]

You notice how he organically drops a big one?

[Lewis]

I don't do it on purpose.

[Mike]

I certainly.

[Lewis]

Where to come to skill. Yeah.

[Mike]

All the way here for Mega Bob. Mega Bob? It's a noun.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna drop it right here.

[Mike]

Traffic.

[Tyler]

Get out of my way.

[Mike]

I gotta get the office and practice for Big Bob.

[Lewis]

Dude, that traffic is not a joke on i4. There was a badass accident this morning. I had to do some Dale to keep from getting up.

[Mike]

No, he didn't block. He didn't block me. We're actually. I actually know the guy. That's the other thing that struck me odd is who the guy that contacted me was like.

[Tyler]

I'm like, what's your take, Jimmy? You're a citizen. You have a police department. You also have a sheriff's office. They start. They start getting cooked by the populace for putting out dumb content. Dumb content. It's like the. If 80 of people are like, this is stupid. Do you think they should turn them off?

[Lewis]

Are you asking? I. I'm in charge of the police department.

[Tyler]

No, you're just a citizen.

[Lewis]

Okay. So I mean, like, I'll have to go ahead and take a, take a, like a good one and a bad one because I have both. I've got Hillsboro or Pinellas County Sheriff's Department, who. Not a fan of Sheriff Bob at all. There's some good, there's some good deputies there, but they are leaving rapidly. And then you have Largo pd, which actually does pretty good job of outreach and social media interaction. And Largo PD is pretty well liked by everybody in the community. And the sheriff's department kind of not.

[Tyler]

Only turn off comments, they're just, you.

[Mike]

Want to, you want to. My take on it. I work, I work for the sheriff's office.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Mike]

If they, you're the, you were, you were a captain. You know, when you look, if they come to you, Lord high commander, you work, you work for them.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

You work for them in the public. If they ask you a question, can you not answer it? If the department asks you to something xyz, you don't have an option. You have to. To answer the ia. Any common problem you have. Who does the sheriff work for?

[Jimmy]

Sheriff.

[Mike]

The people.

[Tyler]

The sheriff.

[Mike]

Yeah, right. I know, but he works for the people. So why are you allowed to suppress the people to give their feedback to you?

[Lewis]

You work for them and it should.

[Mike]

Not be able to block.

[Jimmy]

The problem is it's going further too, is now that there, there's county commissions that don't allow or city commissions that don't allow you to do public comment unless you. That you're a resident of that city.

[Tyler]

How do they monitor that?

[Mike]

They check your, they ask you. Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

Are you a resident of the city?

[Tyler]

Oh, you're talking about actually physically going and commenting. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

When you do, when you go to the, the commission meeting or the council meeting, you stand before them for the public comment portion. Everybody gets their three minutes. Unless you don't live in the city.

[Mike]

But how do you shut off the. You work, the sheriff works.

[Tyler]

It's a new age world. They're used to people that are you like, they're, I'm sorry, the people that have city council meetings.

[Jimmy]

That's not.

[Tyler]

The youth going in there. I think they should go. We are used to. Now this is our city council.

[Lewis]

I, I, I, I. There's a bigger problem here. The problem is the boomers that are in charge of everything that are not used to the social media world. They can't let roll off their back. They, they don't understand.

[Jimmy]

It's personal.

[Lewis]

Yeah. It's all personal. And that's the problem.

[Mike]

Look at like, I'm the sheriff.

[Lewis]

You can't say that.

[Mike]

Sean Reyes is after Melbourne. Melbourne's mayor here is taking. Donations are going into Habitat for Humanity, and they're paying the mayor's roofing company thousands and thousands of dollars to do the work. It's completely illegal. It's a workaround for free cash flow. He's got the first party contract for his roofs going on these habitats. Sean Reyes brings it in. You know what the mayor does when trauma walks in? He walks out. He brings himself, uses himself from the meeting, excuses himself in the back until Reyes leaves, gets his three minutes and leaves. Then he comes back out because it's.

[Jimmy]

Ongoing litigation, so he won't talk.

[Tyler]

I love it, man. I love the most corrupt. And I'll get into it next week. The Some of the most corrupt I've ever seen is local.

[Jimmy]

So I'll call it out right now. Mount Door Police Department does not allow comments on their social media.

[Tyler]

I mean, how hard is it to get a chief that does something like, oh, we put my PR team, my. Whatever they're called. Who the PIO team. It's usually a social media team that's mixed in with pio. Hey, I didn't get word that they were gonna do this thing that. That the public clearly roasted them on. Like, I would be like, you know, I would turn it into something like, y' all didn't run it by me. I would have told you not to do it like that. You cannot put someone on there. In today's world of social media, it's a bully room. It's literally like, when you get on Instagram, you got to put the helmet on the boxing gloves and get in Instagram. Like, that is not a place where. Where a lot of. I think Facebook is better, but can.

[Jimmy]

You have Facebook anonymous member? You can comment and stuff as an anonymous on Facebook, but I think Facebook's.

[Tyler]

Just a little bit healthier of an environment, I think. Just. I mean, am I wrong?

[Mike]

I think it's better than. It's way better than Instagram.

[Tyler]

Like, why would you be on Instagram?

[Lewis]

Instagram is. Instagram is becoming, in my opinion. I mean, like, we get a lot of traffic there, but I don't know.

[Tyler]

How much traction we get, how much we retain.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah. You know, there's a lot of people seeing us, but how many of them are. But it's become a cesspool for negativity and only fans, girls. And, you know, I mean, like, they're dude, they just did a whole thing the other night about how like some of these girls that are on Instagram who are underage girls like between 12 and 16 that work for this talent agency. Hey, 60 of your pictures have to be in a bikini.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Heather was telling me about that. They just, the last Avengers is brought that up.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that's what, that's what Instagram's turned into.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he emailed us.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's. I talked to him.

[Lewis]

So.

[Mike]

But, and, and obviously if nobody watched my episode yesterday, it's a very important one to watch. I talk about the struggles of filing a complaint against a sheriff and how hard it is. I dropped it yesterday on. Here's a clip from what I this is my little clip about my episode from Yesterday. You between July 24 and August 1, I'm going to show you how he illegally spent tax dollars and how he wasted tax money for personal use. And then you, the community, the Board of Ethics or the Commission on Ethics, you guys will have to decide. Do you dive deep into his books and see if this has gone on longer? So in a, in a, in a 10 day window, I was able to uncover like $5,000 in illegal spending and unethical decisions like leaving the state in a work vehicle, using work gas for personal use, booking a 409 upgraded villa at a conference to bring his wife and family over when he already had a room. Well, now she's, they're married now. But he had an affair. But I dove in and go, okay, I'm gonna make a complaint. Like I'm gonna go at it. I'm gonna like, tough. And I, I good. I put my name on the bottom of it. I'm not a coward. That's what I talk about with Instagram being a bunch of cowards hiding on a fake name. I put a ethics complaint in to the governor, the attorney General, the ethics commission and the Florida Sheriff's Association Association. Signed Michael Dilks at the bottom with my name and address because I'm not a coward. But it is very difficult and it comes with a lot of. I've had people go, dude, you're nuts. Like, dude, you better hope you got guns. I hope you got cameras on your house. I, as a citizen of America, have to be that terrified and have people that worried about me because all I'm doing is saying, here's a man who has completely been untouchable. Nobody can do anything. He has comments off. You can't comment in a public form. You can't walk in his lobby. Just last week, he prohibited a reporter from coming to a public press conference because he said that reporter has written negative things about him.

[Tyler]

He just does whatever the hell he wants.

[Mike]

Eric Scott Flowers anywhere County sheriff does whatever the he wants. And somebody has to put a stop to. To it. And the media's got it. Hopefully they run it. I've run it. But it's just a massive problem. And that's. That's one little county in Florida. It gets.

[Jimmy]

Don't lose sight of the fact that this is the most powerful man in the county. He can. Not only. He's got. He runs a group that can not only take your freedom.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

They can take your life.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

Legally.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

That that power is huge.

[Mike]

If you're willing to go spend money and do whatever you want. You don't think they can go scratch a little fabrication on here. Go get a warrant for his house and kick his 100.

[Tyler]

It.

[Mike]

I've seen it happen. And. And when you start to go after these people, a very good group jumps on Facebook and rallies. But they suppress our ability to do it by blocking the comments. Because I can't go onto the page and say this is a problem where it gets the most. Because they. You know, the sheriff's always has the biggest audience, but they block everybody from being able to comment on it. So now we're a little grassroots, small little cells of people trying to.

[Lewis]

Sorry.

[Mike]

Trying to get these complaints out and nobody wants to listen. And it's like. Then instead of being like, everybody jumps behind you. They do silently. People go, man, you're. You know, until you're crazy.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You get all the.

[Lewis]

The.

[Jimmy]

But don't tell anybody, man. But I support you.

[Mike]

I will tell you. I've gotten. I've been reached out to by people I never in a million years would have imagined. And I'm starting to get stories of like, man, you know, this happened to me. This is pretty strange. I know what you're talking about. And we have a corrupt little town down. And it's unfortunate. I know you do it. It's like it just is everywhere when they. They tinfoil hat everybody into thinking we're the problem because we're speaking up. Like, why are these guys so speaking up? And they just. They just act like it doesn't happen.

[Jimmy]

We're just disgruntled.

[Mike]

That's what they call it. Yeah.

[Tyler]

100.

[Jimmy]

Hey, we're crazy.

[Mike]

But when I say black and white, that's one of the arguments I have with the guy last night. I'm like, he said I wasn't factual. I said, I want you. I will get on recording with you. If you point out one thing I put up that's not factual, I'll delete the episode right now. You tell me one thing I. That's not factual. And he couldn't. There's nothing there. Not he didn't like what I had to say, but it was like, there's nothing. It is what it is. But you just, it's, it is scary. I'll tell you how I drove here last week and I was behind a truck with a DV tag and a white flag was Tacoma. Came here Monday, sat through the whole episode. I left on God. I got back on 528 and the same truck was right in front of me. Not a one that looked like it, not one kind of like it.

[Lewis]

It.

[Mike]

The same truck five and a half hours later was right back in front of me on the beeline.

[Tyler]

What are the chances?

[Mike]

You tell me. You tell me. I. Could it be coincidence? I hope I win the 1.5 billion dollar lottery that way. I am telling you because I was looking at the DV tag and I was thinking DB tags get free parking at the cruise. And that's why I was on my mind. Get a Tacoma. Had the, and I had a flag, like a flag over here, had the DV tag, came here actually, by the way.

[Lewis]

And then chat. DV is the disabled, disabled veteran tag.

[Mike]

I actually missed my exit going home because I was on the phone with a dude from Tampa telling me his horror story. So I had to go up, do a U turn and all them chain of events happen. I get on 5:20, I'm on the phone to dude and I go silent. And I'm like staring at this car. He's like, mike, you there? I'm like, hey dude, let me call you right back. I literally put the phone down. I just drove for like two miles just in my head going, how the did this guy end up right next to me again in the same place?

[Tyler]

Dark windows, couldn't see in it. Mike didn't kill himself. That's all I'm saying.

[Mike]

I did not shoot myself twice in the back of the head. I promise, dude. Maybe my wife, but not me. I didn't do it.

[Lewis]

There's, there's weird things are happening now. I, I, at this point, I kind of just want to run for sheriff county. Just, just a debate the, the jackass and be like, I'm gonna bring back the goons. That's what I'm gonna do.

[Tyler]

Too. I know, I know.

[Mike]

I've actually kicked it around. That'd be fun.

[Tyler]

That's crazy.

[Mike]

And the only reason, kind of like you were talking about, like getting into VFW for just the fact that it's quote, like, get it going. My thing is, if it doesn't affect the outcome, like, I don't want to take votes from who I believe should be the sheriff, Milo Thornton, my guy right here with his hat. I would like to stay in long enough just to be a debate, just to have to sit next to the sheriff.

[Tyler]

Yeah, because you said anybody if they put in their ticket, they get. Get the chance.

[Mike]

He has to.

[Tyler]

Run again, right?

[Mike]

No, he's definitely run again. Dude's broke. That's why he's using tax dollars. He can't afford hotels on his own, so. Or gas. So he's using tax dollars. But no, they, what they do in our county is every person that's running, we have a psychopath lady that's absolutely batshit crazy. I'm talking the craziest woman ever, Deborah Cooney. She runs as a non partisan. She gets a spot in the debate and she answers questions with, I'm going to disband the entire sheriff's office. They're all drug dealers and there's gonna be no cops in the county. That's like her platform. Get rid of the whole. Yes, but you have a spot up there. And I just want to be able to sit by this guy and be like, all right, now let's talk. I know everything about you. I know all the things you're lying about. I know the truth. Now let's go to look at the public and I can answer these questions and you have to follow up.

[Tyler]

What do you think his counter to that? He's obviously going to know that's what you're doing.

[Lewis]

He's a.

[Tyler]

What do you think he's going to show up?

[Mike]

He has to sitting.

[Jimmy]

Shit.

[Lewis]

No.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's just sitting.

[Tyler]

Can you call out sick? No, from the Domain?

[Mike]

No, he would, he would avoid, he would try to avoid it because, you know, like, I know these two complaints were certified mail. They both got them certified mail. So I know they have them. They know they have them. And it's, it's sketchy, man. I'll tell you. I've not been nervous a lot about a lot of things in my life. And I said this to my wife walking in the grocery store, I said, I've put people in prison for the rest of her life, many of them and other people and I am more terrified of this government, these government entities.

[Jimmy]

I get it.

[Mike]

That I worked for. I'm. I have visions of that massive pole coming through the front door on that teradon. Like just cook something up, dude. I wouldn't put it past him, man. I wouldn't put it past them.

[Tyler]

No. It's crazy. It's like I was thinking about this the other day. Like, you piss off enough people or people want to control you anywhere from what you're doing, it's pretty dangerous because it's literally the local level. It's where you live.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

But I mean, you start playing with like certain things, people can literally just bug. They can come. I mean, they're, they're. This is not a conspiracy. The federal government will break into your house. The state government will break in your house for an investigation. I think the federal is a little bit more sketchy on that. What they determined the Patriot act. But you know, they'll, they'll go in and plant though.

[Mike]

I've done it. I've written sneak and peak warrants. Yeah, I've done it.

[Tyler]

So that. Or like, dude, here's the thing, man. I think that they, the feds would put something on your computer so bad. They're like, that's not me. And they're like, we found it. So do you want to comply with us or do you want it to.

[Mike]

Come out that this you. Yeah, you tell me. Hackers and people with access, they can't.

[Tyler]

Put something on your computer like Jay said.

[Mike]

You know, we had Jay on and Jay was saying that he got his car broken into. He's on federal probation, go back to prison for the rest of his life. And he has a car burglary. And he's obviously a conspiracy guy. And he's like, you're not leaving. I wanna, I want you guys to look through my car and write on the paper there are no drugs and no guns. Like somebody didn't break in and plant. And like, I want pictures. And you know, and I've gotten to that point now where it's just, it's scary to go after it. And then when you have friends going, man, dude, Mike, are you, you know, you, you're saying a lot. And it's not saying anything wrong, but you're saying a lot. And it's like, well, am I not allowed to use my free.

[Lewis]

I mean, there, there is a reason why we, we're also named a 25 million dollar lawsuit.

[Mike]

I mean, I'm gonna say the truth.

[Tyler]

And I mean we, me and you have been drugged through the mud personally that professionally entertainment wise, and gotten it. You could call us what you want. You can call us survivors, you call us cockroaches. I don't care. So now what's the next step? That when you got two guys that don't care that say whatever they want and.

[Mike]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Jimmy]

You putting fun in your trash.

[Lewis]

It's me, guys. I'm. I'm. It's my hostile takeover plan.

[Jimmy]

No, not at your level.

[Mike]

I'm not going to go share it.

[Jimmy]

But I stood in front of the Eustace City Commission and took my three minutes as a citizen and told them what a liar their chief was, who was sitting behind me. And my wife videoed it. And I have him shaking his head yes when I called him liar. I mean, this. This dude, I have zero use for this guy. But I put in my trash sometimes. And I'm thinking, God, they're gonna have fun when they.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know they do. Trash.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, I talked to one of the commissioners today on the way here, and you know, because our sheriff went nasty at them and, you know, he asked for like 18 million dollar budget increase because he can't budget his books and put it all the blame on them. And it's like, that was my point of showing. This is. You're putting the blame on a commission to not give you a. You're asking for $18 million increase, but you're willing to blow $5,000 in just nine days. So where is the budget crisis? And you know, I'm gonna go read. I want to go read the complaint, get it on the record down there. But even they are like, man, Mike, you're really like, you're doing it, man. It's like, but. But I'm doing what's right. I'm not. If I make anything, I sue me. If I say anything on those paper, I encourage you. I hope so. Everything I've said is factual. It's all black and white. I have sources on every single thing. And see, I don't think you will be sued.

[Jimmy]

And the reason I say that is because if they had it, they'd have done it by now.

[Mike]

Yeah, my wife and I have this conversation.

[Tyler]

You say that on a podcast. That's what makes people go and sue you. Because they were like, this is my last line of defense. This is the only way that people will believe me. Even though they're liars and everybody knows they're liars. If. I'm not saying he would. But if somebody was on the other end of Mike's wrath. They might go, okay, so this is what I need to do to prove to everybody. Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. But I would encourage that.

[Tyler]

That.

[Mike]

Because then. Then we talk just like you guys discover.

[Tyler]

It's free.

[Mike]

It's free. Course I have every.

[Jimmy]

I have every inch of the deposition.

[Mike]

I have every Instagram reel that dude ever sent me for the last 10 years.

[Tyler]

The sheriff is it just stuff.

[Mike]

That's stuff he would not want to.

[Lewis]

He would not want.

[Mike]

I have every message he's ever texted me since.

[Jimmy]

Stuff in Canada that you'd be a deep for.

[Mike]

I can put a timeline together. When his mistress reached out to me to try to, like, court me to be involved in their. And I never answered her back. To this day, it sits on red.

[Tyler]

They invited you for. She.

[Mike]

No, no, she tried to get. No, she tried to get me to call her to like. I know you're very supportive. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not supportive.

[Tyler]

But she tried to mail you in their drama.

[Mike]

But when I didn't respond to that message, I still have it saved as right there. I never responded that date. You can take that date and watch my career go off the Price is Right cliff of, like, downhill because I did not participate and not going to go hang out with your mistress. And you. When I know your wife and you.

[Jimmy]

Didn'T play like, in person.

[Mike]

And I. I have more. I mean, you can call. Like I said, you call me a.

[Lewis]

Piece of all that.

[Mike]

You just have morals. I know what is right and wrong. And it's like, I met your wife and your. You met at my house. I was the best man you're weighing. I've known your wife as long as I've known you. I get bro code. I get bro code. But, dude, when you're. You're just annihilating your family publicly. Yeah, I can't get on board with that.

[Tyler]

Well, that's something you don't do for bro code. Like, you don't call and ask like, hey, man, let me put you in a hairy situation too. Yeah, like, you know how many times I gotta tell my supposed bros, don't make my life harder with my wife. You're not my brother. If your and your shenanigans make my life harder with my wife. It's not as. This isn't a jab at my wife. This is. I'm married to her. Yeah. And when you go and cause problems, just like her girlfriends, if they cause problems with her for me, like, it don't do that, bro. You know, just as well. And now if you're, if you're friends with like a single 24 year old guy, you're expecting you might not know. Yeah, he's not married, but. And that happens a lot of time in the cop world. Oh yeah, you get the mixture but like you're close bros, man. Don't do that to me.

[Mike]

Yeah, and that's, I mean that's the position I got put in. And it was like, what do you want me to do, dude? Like, I can't get behind this behavior. I can't go hang out with you. And I mean I'm there for you. But you know when he needed me to go cry in his car because he was all upset, all those things, I went and sat there with him. But I'm not gonna go on sneaky dates with you in another county because you want to have an affair. Like, I'm not doing it, dude. Not doing it. And I paid the price because I said my episode and I talked about last night. I could be that, that if I had, if I was spineless, I could be the 160000 captain that's going for free to Orlando and going on road trips for free on the government dime, making double what I was making before.

[Lewis]

And, and you wonder why the. The local populace looks at police officers. I mean like think about all the things that you just named off. You're talking about evidence tampering, you're talking about planting evidence. You're talking about going after people because they say something that the department or the, that the person at the top of the department doesn't like. You're talking. I mean, so if, if you can do that to a cop, what's to stop you from doing it to an average citizen? Why would anybody trust you?

[Jimmy]

Are you saying the community doesn't trust the law enforcement?

[Lewis]

I am, but this is the. What? But this is. But this is endemic.

[Jimmy]

This is exactly why they don't.

[Mike]

Yes, yes. But you probably didn't see it because you were. Because your agency so big. But I know you did. What about in the building, how higher commanders walk around and just, just talk nasty to employees and females and say the you were out. You're on the field. Like we come from small agencies where you're in the station a lot and how nasty. I have a deputy chief that told my wife once, females should be cops. You need to go make me a sandwich. I could still work.

[Tyler]

Oh, because they disguised it as a joke.

[Mike]

Yeah, you can't joke with the boy. What happens when. Like you said, what happens when another guy hears that and goes well, I guess I can say whatever the I want. Yeah too now he's soliciting for sex or something. He's saying something completely off the wall or when.

[Jimmy]

When the. The obvious lesbian officer walks in and the deputy chief goes oh L. Otopus is in the building.

[Lewis]

I mean that's funny.

[Mike]

That might be true. That's a true story funny.

[Tyler]

But come on.

[Mike]

That's a real animal at the zoo, isn't it?

[Lewis]

A L?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

They drive Subarus.

[Tyler]

I could, I could, I could. It is a occupation of warriors. And to play devil's advocate, I mean I'm not going to roast some old dude that grew up in that 30 years we go.

[Mike]

Here we go.

[Tyler]

30 years. I'm not even bad guy beat his.

[Mike]

Wife all his life drunk. He's allowed to.

[Tyler]

You gotta worry about now the lesbian cop get mad. You gotta worry about. And I'm sorry, you gotta worry about the female cop. Like. Like that was inappropriate. Like yeah, your show is a profession with 95 men in it.

[Mike]

And then you want to go mention be professional. You just said profession professional.

[Tyler]

Part of being a professional around the smoke pit. Not sit around the cruise.

[Lewis]

It's different.

[Tyler]

Coffee? No, it's not. In a hearing. Maybe in a professional setting. If you're at briefing. Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, look at long post.

[Tyler]

What are you doing? Yeah, maybe not that, but if you're.

[Mike]

Okay, okay, I said in the building. We're talking about in the building. Walking around. Walking around the building. Your argument is that your detective brand new building, Brandon.

[Tyler]

My safe house is like at the cars at the gas station three in the morning. Okay.

[Lewis]

But you can avoid 69 in it over at.

[Mike]

56.

[Tyler]

I mean I love it with cop 69. They're card. No, I mean in all reality. Yeah, but that, that's to me is a little different. I wasn't talking about the building. I wasn't talking about official like nine to five in the building.

[Mike]

What about a guy that drives around and pulls up next to 69 and the females and harasses them.

[Tyler]

What about the female pulls up and the guys don't want her there, then that, that's fine. Well they can't say I don't want you. I want to make sexy jokes.

[Mike]

They cannot talk about vagina for like 20 minutes while she's there. And then they go back to it. Like it.

[Tyler]

It.

[Jimmy]

Come on man.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Tyler]

I get drawing camaraderie. No fun talk yeah, no fun.

[Mike]

Sorry. Women. You deserve to be sexually harassed. Actually, the whole fleet's gonna be Subarus with Mike's. We deserve it. All women deserve to be harassed. You picked a man's profession.

[Lewis]

And.

[Mike]

If you're not gonna go wash dishes and cook dinner, then don't be a cop. You, Dominic, Izzo and Tyler say none of you, all of you, go wash dishes and get back in the kitchen where you belong.

[Lewis]

I'm, I'm, I'm gonna go.

[Tyler]

Let's hear your side.

[Lewis]

I, I, Because I, I mean, like, I was never a cop, but here's what I can talk about. I don't think there should be women in the infantry, period.

[Tyler]

No.

[Lewis]

And, and I don't. And look, if you are going to be a female in a, in law enforcement, male dominated. In a male dominated environment, you better be able to be on par with everybody else.

[Tyler]

What about your sense of humor? Does that have to be on part.

[Lewis]

Two, your sense of humor? Well, I mean, look at me. I'm with, in the room with you guys and my sense of humor. You guys had to literally explain a joke to me through text yesterday. You know, Mike's over there, I guess.

[Tyler]

I guess not getting, not getting. Like, what's, I think if you're a unit, a cohesive unit, a joke shouldn't throw a wrench in the.

[Lewis]

No, that's, that's, that's the problem. But you know, I mean, like the.

[Mike]

Joke, your joke is a joker painted with, first of all, with a gun in his hand. Oh, it's just a joke.

[Lewis]

This, this group right here is cohesive. Yeah, right. But when you, There are plenty of, there are plenty of groups that are, they're not.

[Tyler]

Cody. I know. What if, like, what if you didn't like mustache jokes? And we were like, now we knew you didn't like.

[Mike]

That's not like.

[Lewis]

Was it on camera?

[Tyler]

No, I'm just saying mustache jokes.

[Mike]

And like, you're like, oh, Jimmy small one.

[Tyler]

And then now I'm just saying mustache joke. And then we saw that Jimmy, it made him uncomfortable. I like my mustache. I really don't like it when you. And then so we just start going, I mustache you a question.

[Mike]

But Jimmy started getting real butt hurt.

[Tyler]

Doesn't work.

[Mike]

If Jimmy got molested by a mustache, then that would be, that would be a bad joke. That would be a joke. We shouldn't, we shouldn't do. Jimmy just said, I don't like mustache because I think they look ugly. We made mustache. So he's not going to be Offended by that. If it was something personal, like she doesn't choose the fact that she has a vagina and she comes by somebody with a mustache.

[Lewis]

Guys, we're potato again. We're potato.

[Tyler]

We're at the end of the show.

[Mike]

It's because I said mustache.

[Lewis]

Yeah, almost.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

No, it's not that bad.

[Lewis]

Bad.

[Tyler]

It's not that bad.

[Lewis]

But I don't know. It looks pretty bad from where I'm.

[Mike]

I get. I get what you're saying. And just like you're almost saying, though, that the group chat's legal, then, like, they can say cotton picking jokes.

[Jimmy]

It's just between them, Right?

[Tyler]

That's where it gets crazy, because fine line. It's on your phone. Is it at work? There you go.

[Mike]

That It's. Are you controlled at work all the time? Can I send a personal text message at work to my wife? Can I send you a message when I'm working, working?

[Tyler]

Can I send a racist message to Tyler?

[Mike]

I would never do. Elmo was sure he left his bike here.

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Mike]

The bike was missing, but So, I mean, that goes down, that line of free speech. But I think in the job, you call it. Use the word professional, right?

[Tyler]

I use the word profession.

[Mike]

Okay, so you use the word profession. That means that profit. Jimmy, I'm not smart. Professionals would be working for a professional.

[Tyler]

No, you just said the word. I said the word.

[Mike]

If I said we're a bunch of. It's a profession we're in, will we be professionals?

[Lewis]

That should be me.

[Mike]

And you are good at arguing.

[Tyler]

I said what?

[Mike]

I said we're a bunch of professionals, so act like it. I would know that when a woman walks in, I'm not gonna be like.

[Lewis]

Look, I got box on this one.

[Mike]

Like, you're not gonna say that, right?

[Lewis]

You guys are missing these box, man. You're missing. You're missing the bigger box.

[Mike]

There's a lot of dusty parts are just bad.

[Lewis]

The problem, you guys, that the police, law enforcement agencies have you. There is so much work that needs to be done. You guys have got to avoid even the appearance of evil. You can't even look like you might be racist. You can't even look because even if it's a joke, if it gets out, it's gonna. It's gonna tar and feather every other cop in your agency and across the nation. You've got. You've got to think about the second and third order effects of your jackassery. I'm sorry. You have you. It wasn't your fault. That it got up guys that are wearing the badge today. But it is your responsibility to make it better. That's, that's what I think.

[Jimmy]

He's right.

[Lewis]

And, and this is why I want to be.

[Jimmy]

This is a huge thing for me right now too, is every agency's out there doing the coffee with a cop and the pizza with cops and all the. We're, we're part of the community. We're all that. You know how you win your community? You do your job, you do it professionally, you do it right. It's not by going out and pandering to the community. It's by doing what you're paid to do.

[Tyler]

You think if they did both, they should keep the pizza, coffee stuff because of the, the good it does or just kind of wipe that out?

[Jimmy]

I don't think it, I, I honestly.

[Lewis]

Don'T think it does.

[Jimmy]

I think it's a false sense of good.

[Tyler]

It's a PR stunt.

[Jimmy]

It's 100 a PR stunt and people recognize it for what it is.

[Tyler]

You can't not, not do it now.

[Jimmy]

You know what's not a pr. What's not a PR stunt is when your car gets broken into and you call the police and they come out and they actually take a report and they look at it and they talk to you and they do your job and they go away.

[Tyler]

We'll end it with this. Do you guys think it's a good PR stunt move for a sheriff depending on his community, but for him to go on Facebook and do like one of those Wayne Ivy style. I know we don't like Wayne Ivy, but Wayne Ivy style, like, I had no officers show up to coffee with a cop today. I'm sorry. I know it's a national day that all police engage with the public. Public. However, we are down in numbers and we are high on crime and my officers were out fighting crime and taking reports. So no. There will be nobody for coughing a cop today and probably the foreseeable future until we shape shift this into what it needs to be. I think that's a good.

[Jimmy]

No, no sheriff is going to get up.

[Lewis]

Yeah. I mean, first of all, the, the political implications of all of what you just said.

[Tyler]

And then you go, yeah, like, why.

[Lewis]

Are you the sheriff again? Okay.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Am I wrong?

[Mike]

No, I, I, No, I agree with you. I just, I, I think along those lines is you take a day where even like the Christmas with a cop. I mean, it's a cool concept. You go push the shopping cart around a lot. But what the citizens really need are well trained professionals.

[Jimmy]

100.

[Mike]

The best way to be good for the citizens is to be well in use of force, well in physical shape, mentally ready to go to work every day.

[Lewis]

Wear your vest.

[Mike]

You can take any fat slob with no personality, put them in a win with that. Put them in the. You can take any fat slob, put them in the Walmart with a bunch of kids that he can't stand, push a card around for an hour and go look at me. I post with it and that's it.

[Tyler]

I, I always compare the law enforcement to your parents. Right. We are society. The way children look at their parents, the way society looks at law enforcement. If your dad went, I could take you to Disneyland, spoil the out of you and just do that forever. Or I can put food on your table, I can teach you morale, discipline. I can put a roof over your head and we can spend quality time together and you grow up to be a solid human being. You're gonna go, take me to Disney, take me to Disney. I want that. Like, so when you're sitting here saying like cops, they should be. This is all they should have to. Absolutely everybody agrees on that. But it's not going to win the public over.

[Mike]

It will if you're out. That's where I go. The next step is like being in the hood and getting out of the car and rapping with these kids and joking with them.

[Lewis]

Them and playing game.

[Mike]

And that happens out in the field where there's. Where there's what? Where there's no camera to make it a spectacle.

[Jimmy]

And none of those kids interacting with is doing shop with a cop.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean you're shaving your head.

[Tyler]

You just said rapping with the kids and didn't even stop and go. Not me though.

[Mike]

Rapping, like talking.

[Lewis]

That's like conversation rapping.

[Mike]

Rapping. Not, not that rapping. It means talking.

[Tyler]

Oh, like rapping.

[Jimmy]

That was your best rap imitation.

[Mike]

No, I'm not going to do my best. But that is the best way to interact with the community. I think that will leave that. That I could tell you. Nobody's ever walked up to me and gone, oh dog, I remember you from Shot with a Cop. I've had to suck it up and go before I get people to walk with me. Hey man, I remember that time my mom got her ass beat and you showed up when I was a little kid and you know, you took that boyfriend to jail or you did this and that's, you know, I've got the messages, dude. Like that's where People really remember that whole concept of social media nonsense. Kind of put me to the same thing where we overdo people when they're gone. Treat the people good when they're here. Don't memorialize them so much at their funeral. Be nice to them now. Be nice to the public by being good cops. Let's not put it on tv. Look how great we are everybody. We're the greatest people in the world. We go shopping with you guys as soon as we leave. We.

[Tyler]

I think that's. Yeah, I think that's a business 101 thing. If the world doesn't know that you do good they're never gonna know.

[Jimmy]

We are age of social media and trust me, when a cop shows up and does their job and does it right, that spreads. I ran just as fast as when they show up and do it wrong.

[Mike]

I ran the social media for about six months every, every two days. That's where they taught me every tools to use against them. Every two days, every two days there was a dude in the back of a patrol car with a pair of paragraph of me all over them about being a criminal. Go back so you can scroll all the way back and see how many engagements and how many positive comments there were of people going that's what I'm paying you guys to do, go get them. Paying somebody to jerk off at Walmart doesn't do anything for the community.

[Tyler]

If I ever do a skit on social media it will be shop with a cop. But what really happens like the little like I don't want this one, I want this one. Like this one's, this fishing pole is 400 bucks bud. Your budget 200.

[Mike]

Here's your 220 gift cards. Well I want the Xbox.

[Tyler]

Oh man, it's so. It's not. I want to say it's corrupt. It is all a big ploy, right? They would tell you take these kids come your budget is 200 per kid. Do not go over, do not you bring them on if, if you go to the checkout lines. This is my experience and it's 2 oh 498 shave off 5 bucks. Dude, we don't tell you you're the bad guy.

[Mike]

We told you I paid for it.

[Tyler]

They won't, they don't have an extra $4 per kid.

[Lewis]

Dude, we had my, my mother in law had the sheriff's come and drop off Christmas presents yesterday and they do know who cop bill is because she looked right at me and I could tell she recognized me and I was like yeah, I'm that guy.

[Mike]

What the lady did?

[Lewis]

Yeah, the female officer. She was really nice. Female deputy. She was really nice.

[Tyler]

Oh, they dropped off groceries at your house?

[Lewis]

Yeah, Christmas presents.

[Tyler]

Christmas presents?

[Lewis]

Yeah, at my. Not my house, my mother in law's house.

[Tyler]

Okay. Yeah. And then. But they knew Mike.

[Lewis]

Yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm that guy.

[Tyler]

I was at the back.

[Mike]

I mean, I was at the bank getting money out for the cruise and I had. I slid my ID across, did my card to the lady. She goes, you're that guy.

[Tyler]

Oh, the local guy.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You're Batman. Yeah.

[Lewis]

Put your.

[Mike]

Put your glasses on.

[Tyler]

No, I'm not.

[Mike]

It was on Tuesday. I said, I'm gonna really be that guy tomorrow.

[Lewis]

We should.

[Mike]

In tomorrow's episode. It's gonna be real. Luckily that all your money is gone. By the way, it was a government free. The FBI has a freeze on your account, so I can't. These bills are all marked.

[Jimmy]

Like.

[Tyler]

This is your money pile. Give him.

[Lewis]

Yeah, the office or deputy short. And she was sure. She actually made the joke. She's. I looked at her and. And I was like, like wearing the vest, got the bags in the right place. I'm looking at everything because I was like, baby, if this. If this person is not squared away, we're taking a picture, I'm sending it straight to Mike.

[Mike]

Look for the mag pouches.

[Lewis]

Mags were. Mags were squared away.

[Mike]

It was a female, though. According to Tyler, she shouldn't even have been there.

[Tyler]

Hey, what do you guys think about Officer Tommy?

[Lewis]

Who the. Is that?

[Tyler]

The guy that got arrested for domestic violence. He's a real dude like you're talking about. He would go hang out with kids in the hood.

[Mike]

I don't know anything.

[Tyler]

It was like a huge.

[Lewis]

First of all, I've seen so many domestic violences in. In my life, you know, Just. Just give me a second, man. Just give me a second before you.

[Mike]

Put it on me. Jimmy has done a lot of putting his wife up.

[Tyler]

But I just took my. My. I did an out of body experience.

[Mike]

So I just watched it.

[Lewis]

But let's. Let's do it this way.

[Mike]

I used to.

[Lewis]

I saw so many guys get. Get their wife say, oh, yeah, he beat me. He did. When I was in the army. I mean, it was like all the time. And then the truth comes out in a couple weeks. It's like, yeah, that's not really what happened.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

So I don't believe anything until it gets adjudicated.

[Mike]

Yeah, I didn't get cocaine. I just tried to Smell of it a few times.

[Tyler]

I got accused of it seven years later.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh. Oh, really? God.

[Lewis]

With. Hey, I'll wear the hat, but my wife will probably slap the out of me.

[Tyler]

Put your wife up.

[Mike]

Put your wife up.

[Tyler]

Put your wife up.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Available on My wife.

[Lewis]

Can. Can change a thermostat on a. A 2022 Colorado with me. Can your wife do that? Go yourself. Saw that.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

What?

[Mike]

So what, she posted.

[Tyler]

Yeah, she posted about. On her stories.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know she did.

[Mike]

Well, another show.

[Lewis]

Another show, Another show. Yeah.

[Mike]

Not a long drive, is it?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's an hour.

[Mike]

You were second time on. We appreciate it. You're very new now. You're doing stuff locally. Kind of. You and Lance are kind of.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Collabing. Tell us about what you're doing.

[Jimmy]

No, Lance is definitely doing his own thing.

[Mike]

Lance has his own thin blue line audience. Thin blue line. Lie, lie, lie. He blew up quick.

[Jimmy]

Oh, big time.

[Mike]

And him and his wife are great people. And you're kind of spinning off, doing it locally.

[Jimmy]

I haven't started the podcast yet. My wife and I are looking at starting one. She does a lot of the local politics stuff and so she's very involved in going to all that. Was at a meeting last night in Mount Dora.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yay. No, no, honey, I actually do enjoy going to it.

[Mike]

You just up.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Coming back. And where do I order that?

[Mike]

There's a ten second delay, right?

[Tyler]

Kill the feed, kill the feed.

[Mike]

I got the hats for sale, man. I'll be this one.

[Tyler]

And I've been.

[Jimmy]

I've been dealing with this for a long time with I, my. I actually got a call from a now sitting commissioner way back in the day and he told me, hey, you. You need to tell your wife to knock it off. You need to tell your wife to quit. And I said, well, you're more than welcome to do that, but I'm not.

[Mike]

My wife's at work and they're probably telling you tell your husband.

[Tyler]

I put your husband.

[Mike]

My wife's worse than me. She just has to stay quiet.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

She still works there.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that.

[Jimmy]

I can't even imagine that.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Jimmy]

Support thing.

[Mike]

I feel terrible for him, man.

[Jimmy]

But yeah, I do a lot of stuff with the city. Point things out.

[Mike]

And you're another guy that came from within and knows how it really works.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

So.

[Mike]

But they call us disgruntled. We're nasty. Disgruntled.

[Jimmy]

100.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

I don't understand this guy. He's retired. Why does he just go away and live his life.

[Mike]

Enjoy your pension. Yep, yep.

[Jimmy]

I am enjoying my pension.

[Mike]

Me too. I just talk a lot of. On the Internet while things.

[Tyler]

Exactly.

[Mike]

So it's awesome.

[Jimmy]

Buy me equipment to do this.

[Mike]

Well, when you get that up and running, man, you need any help?

[Tyler]

Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

[Mike]

We'll do whatever we can to help you because you're.

[Tyler]

This is like a roast session here. This is like when Tyler found out Mike was a cop. Somebody says, lily's hands are dirty, so Jimmy can hold a drink.

[Mike]

What's a pension? Let me tell you. Are you collecting?

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

I kept my first check.

[Tyler]

Check.

[Mike]

I got mailed my first check because I was really. Yeah, I got mailed my first check because I had. I went. I didn't realize this. I didn't expect to get it. I filed like, September 30th, and because I filed one day before October, I actually started in September. So I'm like, waiting to that. Could you get paid at the end of the month? Yeah.

[Lewis]

For frs.

[Mike]

So I'm waiting till the end of the month. Like the 16th of October rose around. I get a check in the mail and it says, retro pension payment. I'm like, holy. So I started. I said, there it is. 23 years of pain and suffering.

[Jimmy]

One of the.

[Mike]

For this little piece of paper. Right.

[Tyler]

You deserve it. I'm just gonn gonna hate on you.

[Jimmy]

It's one of the few professions left.

[Mike]

And you get out of it, they.

[Jimmy]

Will pay you to not come here.

[Mike]

I wish it was sooner.

[Jimmy]

It's fantastic.

[Mike]

I wish it was sooner. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

But.

[Mike]

And it's.

[Jimmy]

It's what that was put in place to draw the kind of people with the servant heart to come in and do it.

[Mike]

I think they've created a generation of people. And Tyler talks about this like guys getting in and out now. I don't think they're gonna have to worry about it because I don't think many guys are gonna make it to the end anymore.

[Jimmy]

No, I don't.

[Mike]

They're gonna get eight, five, six years in and go.

[Jimmy]

They're doing it. They're doing it for totally different reasons too. I mean, guys are jumping agents.

[Tyler]

If you.

[Mike]

If you. If you deleted. If that Tick Tock ever really happened, where they banned Tick Tock, you'd lose half the police force. Yep. You know, I can't dance around uniform. I have no identity that I'm leaving.

[Tyler]

I agree. All right, guys, that's it for this show. Thank you for joining us. Join us for the night shift, and.

[Mike]

I will see you next week. Thank God.

[Tyler]

Mike's a little excited about not seeing everybody, so.

[Lewis]

Yeah, he's. He's.

[Tyler]

He's had enough of our on.

[Mike]

I've been dealing with. I've been dealing with distractionary blows from these guys. Hold on.

[Lewis]

He's had enough of our chicanery.

[Mike]

Chicanery.

[Tyler]

What a way to end it. That sounds like a food, but a chicanery board.

[Mike]

All right, guys, let's see you tonight.

[Tyler]

Jv team for life.