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Sa. Team for life.
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Good morning.
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It's Monday, December 22nd. The Anti Hero broadcast is the news entertainment broadcast for veterans, first responders and all blue collar Americans.
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You can quote me on that.
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Yeah, I stole that from Justin.
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The entertainment news. What's up everybody? Good morning. Good morning. Donut shop in the house.
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Yeah, it's the donut shop takeover.
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Yeah. Trying to figure out where that's coming from.
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Oh, my bad, my bad. That's me.
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Oh yeah, we have.
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Mike obviously is not here today. He's on a cruise that's lasting about seven weeks apparently. So we got Justin filling in for the Christmas week episode. He just doesn't do a lot of live broadcasts apparently. So.
C
What? Me?
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Yeah. But you got the sound of your own.
C
Oh yeah, no, well, I got these headphones on and they block everything out, these noise canceling headphones. Yeah. Apparently CC says that Mike is over training in Israel.
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But yeah, Justin's obviously the host of the Donut shop podcast. He's a member of our community. He's always in the chats and he's here now because me and Jimmy need a co, like a real co host. I always said that like if you, if, if you're, if your co host is gone, whether there's two, three, you actually have to have somebody that does this and not just like a guest because you can't put the pressure on the guest because they'll sit there and just stare at you.
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Right. Because I mean, you see it sometimes like with night shift and stuff like that. You bring in guys that they don't talk, are fun personalities, but it's just kind of, they just like, you know, they're just hanging out. They don't necessarily know how to jump in. But like I've come on this set before for like the old squad cast and stuff.
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Yeah.
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With you a few times. And, and, and hung out.
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So.
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And, and I've held my own. It's. It's usually a heavy chair to sit in, but I've held my own.
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Absolutely. We need to do the.
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I'm gonna take little mic spot and I'm gonna say join us on Patreon. Jump over to patreon. Measly fee, $5 a month. Use your credit card, get some reward points back, take some flights on it. Join the Patreon. There's specific content built in here for Patreon. Good way to communicate. I'm not a personality in there, but Mike usually says that he's the one that talks the most.
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He does talk a lot in.
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You know, he talks a lot. Yeah, he's got a lot to say. Say. So check out Patreon join. It helps keep the lights on inside this building. So. Thank you.
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Thank you. Look at the verse.
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Actually, I gotta. I got a few. So we're coming up on, you know, the. The time that we celebrate the birth of Christ. Not that this is when he was actually born, but this is when we celebrate it. We can go deep into why that is maybe later on in the show. But so I got a couple. So starting in Isaiah, right? Which is. That's the Old Testament or the Torah. Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son. And he will be called Emmanuel, which means God is with us. And Isaiah 9, 6 for us, for to us a child is born to Us, a son is given, and all dominion will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace. But then we go into psalms and it gets a little dark. Now, this is a Psalm of David. Dogs surround me and a pack of villains encircle me. They pierce my hands and my feet. They divide. Divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing. So, as you can see that all of the things that happened to Christ were prophesied many, many hundreds of years before he arrived, really. And we thank God that he was, because otherwise we would be in everlasting darkness, which I really doesn't sound good to me.
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No, it's not a good day.
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No.
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I really don't want to be separated from the Lord like that.
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And anybody that's on the cusp of Christianity. I, like, a lot of people say, like, oh, well, it's just easier. Would you rather be a believer and it not happen than not be a believer? And it does happen type thing. And to me, I think. I don't agree with that. I think that's an easy way out. I really don't think you're faithful when you're like, well, I'll just. I'll. I'll wear the shirt in case, you know, in case it's real.
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It's.
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It's a specious argument.
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Yeah.
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You know, and the, you know, it's basically like trying to buy insurance. Yeah.
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Yes.
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That's not real.
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And I mean, if you talk to people. I was watching an interview with Three Six Mafia, actually. I'm on a. I'm on a gangster rap.
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I like it.
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They were like, they were talking and one of the guys died. I don't know if it was an overdose or what. And he said he went to hell. And it is. It is just straight torture. You burn the whole time you're there, then you get sucked back into life. And then he's like, you're back and forth when you're dying and people are trying to get you to stay in hell. He's like, it lasts minutes and it feels like an eternity, and you're burning the whole time. He's like, it's. It's something awful.
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Yeah.
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And like, if that doesn't convince you, he. And of course, that's been a testimony for a lot of people. A lot of people have died and said, I went to hell. And it is not. You can't articulate it in movies. You can't articulate it in our feelings and our. In Our touch and our smell. He's like, it is hell. It's just, like the epitome of, like, bad.
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Yeah, it. It's. I mean, the. You know, when you. You start looking at, like, the. The early church here in the United States and, you know, the Protestant Reformations and. And the fire and brimstone speeches, you know, sinners in the hands of an angry God and all of that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's bad. That's not what we want. But if you're. If your faith is based on. I don't want to go to that place, which it should be. Not saying it shouldn't, but, like, hey, there's also a whole. Just the amount of good that has come from my life by trying to follow and emulate Christ and be a better person and start thinking about things in ways that are more about what the Bible teaches us, what God teaches us, what Christ taught us. I have had no downside and many, many upsides. The only downside is, is that, you know, like, the Bible's verse that we read last week, there's a lot of people out there that really don't like you when you start going down that road. And people think that we need to be, you know, you know, beer guzzling, cigar smoking, you know, alpha males that don't need God. Sorry. I don't buy it.
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Yeah. I mean, a lot of people, I don't think of that. There's just something that speaks to me as. As a young man when I would see, like, the. The cream of the crop, people in entertainment, sports, and they score, and instead of showboating, when they score a touchdown, they take a knee and they thank God. And even seeing people like Andrew Tate, you know, as crazy as he is, right.
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All the stuff.
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Successful he is, he goes. I mean, if you're. If you don't believe in God as a man, you're an idiot.
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Yeah.
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Like, you're just a dumb. I think he's. I think Andrew Tate is Islamic. Is that the right word?
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Yeah, he's a Muslim.
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He's a Muslim, but Islamic. He's a Muslim, but his brother, Christian. Tate, is a Christian. And, you know, he says that he bases it back. And where are they from? Romania. Yeah, he's like, Romania, he's like, is a very Christian country. And he's like. When I went there, like, I don't know, he was explaining it very well, and he's like, just, Christians are good people. They're.
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I mean, the real ones are. Yeah, there's a lot of People that you're going to meet that are going to call themselves followers of Christ, and they are absolutely not. They'll go to church on Sunday and tithe and do all that stuff. But, like, you look at them and you're like, yeah, you're. You're a piece of human dude.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And I don't want to be around you. And that is the biggest turn off to Christianity is like, is the Christians. I like your Christ. I hate your Christians, you know, and. But there's a lot of good, good people out there that don't need to broadcast their faith at all. That's not what they're trying to do.
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But you're supposed to. One thing I learned the last couple months by going to church is that you're supposed to speak the word of God. And that's something that we all fail at, is you're supposed to go up to the deli lady at Publix and go, can I talk to you about Jesus?
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And yeah, it's.
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Now it's, like, kind of weird to do that, but you're supposed to.
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And, yeah, you're absolutely supposed to do that. But, you know, everybody has their own faith, their own gift. And I think some of us are more about like, hey, you're gonna. You're not gonna have any questions where I stand. And you're. I want you to look at me and go, there's something different about that guy. I want to know what the hell's going on with him. And I don't have to beat you over the head with it. The other side of that is. And I said this right after Charlie Kirk was killed. I want the enemy to hate me so much, he wants to kill me.
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Yeah.
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Like, that's the other side of my Christianity. Like, I think you have a few.
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People that want to kill me.
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Well, I mean.
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So, yeah, just into cap this off. Christmas is not the day Christ was born.
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No. No. So the. The holidays that we celebrate. The Christian holidays that we celebrate are offshoots of Roman holidays. And so when the. When the Roman emperor became Christian, there was a whole lot of priests there in Rome who are like, we're about to be out of a job. How do we not get out of a job? Well, we've got all these festivals that we now can't celebrate. All right, well, what's the most important festival of the year? Well, that would be the winter solstice. You know, when we're going back into the sun. What are we going to turn that into? Jesus's Birthday. That's what we're gonna do. And then it was like, okay, well, we also celebrate, you know, the beginning of spring. And if you ever wondered why we have bunny rabbits and eggs, you know, that's fertility and stuff like that. And they were like, okay, well, we can. We can't do that anymore. That's pretty pagan. What should we do? Resurrection of Jesus. That's what we're gonna do. And. And so we have these holidays where we celebrate it, but in tradition. That's not when it was supposed to be. If you want to go, like. If you want to go deep, like, we're still supposed to be doing the feasts and the festivals that are laid out in the Torah.
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So what day was Jesus born?
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Sometime in August.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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That we just kind of fabricated the whole.
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It's when you're supposed to start your Christmas shopping in August.
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So.
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Yeah, I mean. I mean, like, even St. Nick, I mean, like, if. If people actually knew the story of St. Nicholas. I mean, like, that dude threw hands, man. He was not like a. A jolly old dude. He was a. He was a pretty important guy, and he would absolutely beat the snot out of people. So.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we actually might have a phone call Santa later. Oh, really? Yeah.
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Well, I look forward to hearing that. I have some. Some really important questions I need to ask that dude. He said, I know that Northcom is going to start tracking him pretty soon because he's got. He's got like 48 hours before the big mish.
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Yeah, the big mission. What about.
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What about Festivus? Mike brings up in the chat. Festivus.
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In the chat.
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No, different. Mike Fritz. The airing of it. The airing of grievances.
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Yeah.
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Putting up the Festivus poll. It's. It's.
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What is that?
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It's from Seinfeld.
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Seinfeld. It's from Seinfeld, but it's. It's the airing of grievances. You put up the Festivus poll.
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Yeah, the pizza strength.
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Yeah, pizza strength. It's. It is also a great holiday. Probably one of the festivals. Yeah, probably it was a lesser known in the back of the festival, but, you know, absolutely like to bring it back.
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I got a lot of problems with you people, and now you're gonna hear about it. I don't watch Seinfeld.
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Well, you're missing out.
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We grew up in the 90s, so.
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I never watched Seinfeld.
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Still around. You're missing out.
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I want to hit up the reflections.
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Yeah.
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So I seen you in the comments. The Clip where we put. We were wrong when we got the Australian shooting wrong.
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Yeah.
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Right. Or we had the wrong information. Like everybody, Most people were fist bumping. Yeah. Most people were giving us mad props. I, I didn't think anybody would. They were like we really appreciate. Especially Australian cops. Yeah. I guess they don't have a big voice.
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Oh, I caught up. I caught part of this. You guys were talking about this last Thursday morning.
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Yeah. Like we so. Well, last Monday, a week ago today, we covered the Bonnie Beach. Yeah, Bonnie beach shooting.
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Right.
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And the news that Mike brought was hey, these cops are. Not only did they not engage, but they gave up. And you know, it's a. We kind of ran with that because that's what we knew. And then the next day we put out a clip. And then after that clip, I think the same day it came out that, you know, it wasn't so much that she was shot through her windshield. She still got out and directed people to standards.
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Yeah, yeah, still did. And, and that's, that's the problem with I think what, what you had was a still shot. So they, the, the photographer that probably did a 30 round burst. Yes. Is showing somebody scoring a goal.
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Yeah.
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And you know, or a try in, in rugby. And it's, it's hard. You know, pictures worth a thousand words and you can make up 999 of them. You know, if you don't have the description or context of what it is.
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And, and, but there was some context. It's just that the context was wrong. Like the, the information that Mike got was what was out there. It was, I mean it was everywhere.
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It was interesting that you guys, I, I forget if it was you guys talking about or somebody else talking about it that the, the, the gentleman that disarmed the one guy with the shotgun or with the rifle that disarmed him. And you know, and we poked fun even in text messages to each other poke fun about how like oh yeah, that guy probably. I said that guy or I was saying it in the chat. That guy probably would have gone to jail for shooting that guy. And that is exactly what would have happened.
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They're all saying that he would have.
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Gone to jail because they do not have a self defense defense type law. Like, I mean we're standing here in Florida where you could, you could have turned that guy into Swiss cheese and the governor would have been there going like this on the news.
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And, and you know, yeah.
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I'm throwing Justin in jail because there was still ammo left in the, in the, in the chambers. So. So that truly is something that's. That's, you know, feasible for that guy is that he. You know, you can't. You can't downplay him that much because he probably would have gone to jail.
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And it's crazy because, I mean, there's so much about Australia we don't understand. Yeah. And we don't understand, like, I don't know if it's like. Like a person over there looking at our country, like, Florida is different than California.
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Yeah.
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We learned that. You know, we were. We were talking about COVID and the lockdowns and the protests and everything. And then there's some parts of Australia that are. We're not going through that. And people were messing us saying, like, hey, dude, it's.
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It's.
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That's parts like when Canada at the hockey game on America, and like, they sing, like, international.
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They booed our national. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Canadians were like, dude, that's liberal Canada. That city sucks. We all hate that city. I don't. I don't remember what city.
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Right.
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Yeah. Edmonton.
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For Canada. For Canada. It's going to be more of like, the Quebec provinces, like where Toronto is and stuff. And so that's. That's one of the places where they were playing that. That was during the.
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The.
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The, like, kind of star break, the tournament that we were doing. The. The four nations tournament. And yeah, they were booing them and. And yeah, I mean, I'm sure most of Canada is very. Just chill with America and cool with it. They might look at us and go, some of the stuff. You guys weird or orange man? Kind of bad.
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Yeah, but. Well, you're welcome for being our hat.
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Yeah, well, and I know because I know when I was in Germany for Oktoberfest, so many Germans were like, oh, America. And these guys would go, I love your boss. I hate my boss, but I get it. I get it. Thank you. You know, so I mean that.
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You know when we did that, when we dropped that whole, like, hey, dude. Like, we were wrong. We got it wrong. By the way, a shitload of other people on YouTube got it wrong, too.
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That somebody was like, yeah, you guys don't get awarded the opportunity to backtrack, like news media outlets. I'm like, why the not.
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First of all, I mean, for. I mean, like, look, we hold people to a standard, right? And the standard applies to everybody. We can't sit here and go, you're not holding yourself accountable there, chief or sheriff or whoever and not do the same thing for ourselves. And Mike, man of his word. He was like, nope, I'm gonna talk about it. I'm gonna be about it. And the fact that there was people out there that just like, no, you guys suck. You know, you should have gotten it right. You guys should have done. You should have gotten it right.
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My favorites. Do better. Do better. Like, okay, I try to do better every day.
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Yeah.
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I mean, every breath I'm trying to.
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Do better at how I breathe and all that kind of stuff.
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Garbage take, user take.
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Yeah.
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It's like, dude, what the man? Like.
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What.
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At what point are we supposed to be better than the news media that's in Australia and everything else that we have to go to? Mike did the best that he could.
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He did.
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He said the same thing that hundreds of other people.
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First off, a lot. I mean, you have to even consider, is it in the mainstream media for certain things are. Certain things are based off a narrative. So I don't even really know if Bonnie beach was in there very much. A, it's in Australia. B, it's. It's a mass shooting. That's like. And in other news, another mass shooting.
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Yeah.
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And to jail with the weather.
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And, and how are, and how are they. How are they explaining it? Are they explaining it by saying mass shooting or are they explaining it like some terrorist attack? Terrorist attack. Like, what's their branding of the story and the topic and what's their motivation for how they explain it? And, and, and how much effort are they putting forward to it?
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And. And what are they ignoring?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And which is where Mike was coming from. And you know, I Even in that whole thing, I mean, like, I got a lot of hate because I was. People were like, oh, you think they deserve to die? I'm like, no, but they got the government that they voted for. And if they vote for a government that takes away their rights, which they're going to continue. I mean, like, they used this as another opportunity to do more gun control. And it's like, dude, we just had a stabbing attack in Taiwan. So, like, you know, guns aren't the problem.
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I saw a dude in the comments, though, going hard on the cops. He's not backing down. I think it's an anonymous page attack donut.
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But.
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And he was like, dude, first off, maybe. Maybe anti hero broadcast got that wrong. But that. This is what he's saying. I'm not saying I agree with it. He's saying that at one. At no point did those cops go engage the enemy.
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Yeah, yeah, well, and, and that's the thing. That's one of the things that we bring up all the time just at failures in America.
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Yes.
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When there are.
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Look at Stone.
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Stoney Douglas or Uvalde.
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Yeah, Stoneman Douglas. Uvalde. So you know, you, you can take both of those and you can say there were especially Uvalde. There was well armed tactical based officers that knew what they were doing that were inside the building right down the hall.
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I don't even think being held.
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You did a, you guys did a breakdown.
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Yeah. A grown. Or you go to Stoneman Douglas. Yeah. And you had a cop with a gun. That's all you need to stop the threat. I mean, you need it. You just need a guy with a gun that has good in his heart. You. I mean, it's great that you've already had it. Well, it's not great because they didn't utilize them. But yeah. You know, and they didn't do it. So we're not on Aussie cops. It's just an observation of law enforcement.
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In general and the, and the curiosity is because I like, I'm a police officer for nine more days in South Florida and Broward county, which is where.
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Congrats to Justin, by the way. He did it.
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But in Broward county, where Stoneman Douglas was. So there's, there's been a huge push, especially in my county for, you know, the training and stuff there was already existent. And then as we know, I've been made fun of before by the guy that usually sits here, that I was a school resource officer. And part of, part of my knowledge, because I was pre Stoneman Douglas, like if we're gonna, if we're gonna do benchmarks, I was before Stoneman Douglas as a, as a high school sro. So I was by myself. State of Florida now has two SROs in every high school.
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That's correct.
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But I was by myself. And it was just consistently in my head going, shots there, you know, shots at 5 o'.
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Clock.
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What, what am I doing? Where am I going? What's my radio transmission? I was constantly running through those scenarios of that day. You know, where are you? Am I sitting in my office, lean back, you know, doing nothing? Boom, something goes out. What am I doing? Yeah, what's my radio? And so you've gotta, you've got to live that life. And so the question is, where is, where are Aussie cops on that? Are they trained like that, Trained like that? Are they mentally ready for that type of thing?
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Hang on.
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Or are they more PC kind of like we see UK cops?
B
Let's let's go back though. Is that what you described though, was your own. You're doing your own vignettes, you're doing your own self training of. Let's, let's think about this problem set that I have that now. I'm here to do a lot of great things, part of its community outreach and all that other stuff. But my ultimate job is to stop bad guys.
C
Yeah.
B
And so if I'm not thinking about stopping bad guys every day, a couple of times a day, if I get shot at, where am I going? Where's my gun? Where do I have a long gun? Where's it at? You know, how far away am I? If you're not doing that, you're probably not very good at carrying a gun professionally. That's, you know. Okay. And I don't, I don't care if you're a cop, a soldier, whatever you should be thinking about, most likely course of action, most dangerous course of action, and what my response is going to be. But you did that on your own. I mean, now, great to have all the training behind, you know, the agency.
C
Yeah.
B
But you were the, the biggest weapon you had was right here between your ears. And that's important.
C
Yeah, I mean, because at that time, I, we only had a rifle in our car. Now, since Stoneman Douglas, they have safes inside their, the SRO's offices for where their rifle goes. So it's at least inside the campus. But it was always that thought process of. All right, do I waste precious seconds, minutes running out to my car to get a long gun, or do I just make sure I'm really good?
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That is an argument.
C
Or am I really good with my.
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Handgun to get the long gun out?
B
I mean, even if it's in a safe, you're still burning time, still move to the sound of the guns.
C
Exactly.
A
And you just gotta weigh. Like he said, I do not feel confident in my abilities with a handgun. Is it better? I mean, not me, but is it better to get that long gun out? Or even if you are, do you have to take a 100 yard shot just. Or, you know, I mean, where am I?
C
What am I doing? Am I on the opposite side of the campus from my office?
B
I'm gonna throw this at you. It's all met, TC Man.
A
Yeah.
B
You break that down for the mission. Mission. Enemy time, terrain, troops, civilians on the battlefield. Yeah, right. Like you need to be like, well.
A
It can't be that. Yeah, it can't be met, TC when you're a cop because you're Rolling around. We always talk about it. Your arm, you're in the same scenario setup wise. Whether you're getting a coffee or you're parking at an active shooting at a school, you. You have what you have. So like, I would think met TC in the military is like, hey, this is what we're bringing to the table because this is where we're going. This is the mission.
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So when, when you use met tc, when we were talking, like, I was thinking specifically about being a sro, right? Like, so if you're going to make the decision about your long gun, right, like, am I, am I five feet away from my long gun or am I across campus? Yeah, well, move to the sound of the guns, man. That's the mission.
A
Yes, that's. That's a good point. Because they have long. Dude, dude, most SRs have long guns in the office with them.
C
Yeah, we. They all, they all have. Yeah, the. They have SBRs, so they have a safe. They have a huge wall safe with SBR bolted into the ground.
A
Amen, brother. You know, brother.
C
So they're. They're ready, they're ready to go and they're like, all their training, like when you have a holiday, like you have, you know, whatever school holiday or teacher planning day, they've got them in the range. Which is not. Was not the case when I was an sro. That was on our own time.
A
Yeah.
C
But now those SROs, at least for my city, aren't rolling the range. We need to change several days a week, a year.
A
The cop culture about SROs is that we. We right now in our culture. So SR has a negative connotation to it.
C
Sorry, road officer.
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It does because typically out of shape, about to retire, cops go there. Guys that want an easier schedule. And what we need to do is we need to actually make it cool as a culture. You need to apply to get it. You need to go through like some kind of like try out or, or not, maybe not a tryout, but like an assessment to make sure you can move. Now they have great scenarios where you move to the sound of gunfire. Simulation rounds. There's really not much to it. You just move to it and when.
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You see it, you shoot, locate, close, with, destroy.
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I did it.
C
I did a training years ago. This was years, whatever 15 years ago. It was at Deerfield Beach High School and it was with sim rounds. So there was, it was paint rounds that were coming out of an AR and they had police explorers there as students and they prepped us like, dude, the. The classroom portion changed My life in my mindset on concealed carry, I concealed carried every day since then. Almost every day. And then in the actual training class as an sro, going through that training class that the Broward Sheriff's office put on, which is sad to say that still fast forwards many years, they. They had failures. But the training that they put on changed my life as an sr. What like.
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Like, for instance, like, children are essentially like the epitome. As close as you can get to, like, in my eyes. Christ.
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Yeah.
A
Like, they are just pure. They're. From the moment you're born, you start getting calloused by the world, by life. So that's the closest we have to just pure goodness and joy. Wouldn't we want to protect that as much as possible? And I'll look at it like this. If you don't think about it like that, you add all of your life savings in cash, sitting in a room forever, like, that's where your life savings was. No banks, no nothing. Hundred thousand dollars, two hundred thousand dollars, a million dollars. Would you pick the sloppiest guard for that money? Yeah, that's. That's everything to you. Why would you not arm that and. And protect that?
B
Especially when we know that, like, it's going to. It's been coming under increasing attack. Yeah, like, you're gonna want, you know, legit professional gunfighters to, you know, do that. I mean, like, hey, man, you want to be a cool guy? You want to get the cool guy operatorship, you want to get a suppressed SBR and, you know, have a cool helmet and, you know, do all that stuff. Go be an SRO and be the BE and be good at it. Be a subject matter expert on mount.
A
I've said since I started this podcast, and I stand by it, and I understand you've actually debated me on it, and I understand where you're coming from, but me personally, I don't care that my SRO is out there playing with the kids, taking photos, hugging the kids, being part of the. The school community be, you know, they are the liaison between law enforcement and the school admin. They are like. They're the liaison. I just said I want a guy. I don't care what he does in that office. I just want a straight up assassin, a guy that's going, and if he could do both, that. That's the perfect world. Yeah, that is the perfect world. But if I had to pick between the guy that eats ice cream with kids on Facebook versus a guy that just sits at his desk and dreams of Killing a school shooter, that's who I want.
B
Well, I mean, you. You want to have. I think, you know, you want to have a. A police officer or somebody who is very professional, very good at their job, very locked on, squared away, and that when the time comes, they're.
A
They're.
B
They're like, they've looked around the school. They've done their own threat assessment. They've gone like, hey, most of these door, you know, walls are made of, you know, very thick center block. Probably not going to go through that with 556, you know, like, and. And just go, okay, hey, look, I'm in this building. There's a big open area, and let's say the shooter's over there. What am I going to do? And be thinking about it and then be able to articulate that to the school administration. Go, hey, here's my plan.
A
The is on job. Yeah. Like, why is this important? I don't get it. Like, I'm telling you from the protector of the school, these things need to happen.
B
And I'm not asking you. I'm. I'm telling you this is how I'm going to handle it. So if, you know, if this goes down, you can immediately plan accordingly. I know what Officer Justin is going to do.
A
We can't change the culture when Mike is sitting there saying, sro Sit to be.
C
And I'm just saying, Mike, you're being a bully.
A
It makes.
C
It just. It makes less of a mess. I'm just saying, yes, I can respond quicker.
A
Yeah. All right, we gotta. We gotta start a sports segment with K9. He's in the waiting room. What up, Canine?
B
I'm stealing that hat Monday morning.
D
I wore it for you.
A
There's actually a game. Obviously Canine's gonna like. He's a sports guy. But I did see some things. Steelers vs Lions. The game was at the end of the game was actually crazy. We're gonna talk about it, but there's a clip of the frustration as a crowd could bring to a sporting event. You have that? Yeah. There you go.
C
Can I always add that K9 has the best mic out of this entire show?
B
Yeah, he does.
A
Look at the setup, dude. He's like, soundproof. Is that your safe room, K9?
C
Legit. I mean, he's got that one green.
A
I was gonna say. What's the deal? Is that. Is that artistic or did you just run out of black?
C
The anti hero.
A
Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
D
Oh, I wish I could take. I wish I could say it was something artistic, but no, I Just ran out of the black ones.
C
So you put it right in view of the camera.
A
All right, Lewis, go ahead and play that clip.
B
DK Metcalf had mixing it up with someone in the stands.
A
Oh, my gosh.
C
That not going to have great consequences.
B
For the Steelers in Metcalf and our cameras happen.
A
All right, you're ending. So I might. My question is, does. Is that dude gonna settle out of court for a quarter million dollars or is that just part of the culture of going to a pro football game? They might punch you in the face.
D
I've been watching football for over, like 25 years. I can't say that I've ever seen a player hit a fan. Now, in the NBA, we obviously had Malice in the palace with Ron Artest meta World Peace, which was probably like the biggest brawl in sports history.
C
The best.
D
Yeah. But football wise, honestly, I don't think I've ever seen it. And I. I seen that live last night. Now, not much information has come out about it yet. He hasn't been suspended yet. The fan hasn't sued him yet, allegedly. Now, this is from sports Keita I seen on Facebook. So this is all alleged.
A
Allegedly.
D
DK Metcalf, the football player, is saying that the guy called him the N word. He's saying that he was saying stuff about his mom, and now the fan is allegedly saying that. I never said that. He said that he called DK by his legal name. So like his government name, not the N word and things like that. So that's what allegedly is going on right now.
A
Yeah. I mean, in all reality, football fans are football fans. If you get a really good one, all it takes is the NFL to go, hey, you want to come and do a tour? Want to sign football? Let's just, you know, keep the. Keep the peace. But I mean, dude, I would imagine you have a massive lawsuit on your hand. That dude's looking at probably some serious fineage.
B
And TK Plays for Mike Tomlin. Who don't. He don't play that.
A
Mike Tomlin does like to keep it football. That's it.
C
Yeah. Yeah. The longest tenured coach right now, currently.
D
Yeah. And he's never had a losing season. He just secured that again last night. Never had a losing season. 16 years.
A
Let's talk about the end of the game. What happened with Lions vs Steelers.
D
So it came down to the last.
A
Play of the game.
D
I think they were on, like the 10. They're down by like five points, four points. So they need a touchdown to score. They run a play. Ammon Amro St. Brown, he ran up and pushed. The defender caught the ball. He was on the one. He ended up pitching it back to Jared Goff. Goff catches it, jumps in the end zone for a touchdown. So they call it a touchdown, but it gets swiped away because it was offensive pass interference on St. Brown. When you have offensive pass interference on a play like that, it just. It cancels everything out. So the game was over because of the offensive pass interference?
A
Yeah.
D
And the funny thing is, I don't know if you have the clip, but when the referee is announcing this to the fans, he goes, the ruling on the field is a touchdown. And everybody goes nuts.
A
Yeah, they're in Detroit.
D
And he goes, but it was offensive pass interference. So the game's over, and everyone's like, oh, what the.
C
You know, but wait, there's more.
B
Yeah, exactly.
A
I saw a bunch of Ravens fans in the crowd, and they were like, yeah, yeah. And it's like, no, they didn't hear that part of the. The game. So that's.
C
Yeah, that's the other funny part is if the whole crowd's yelling so much that. That you miss the.
A
It takes a couple minutes for it to register.
B
Like, all right, all right, all right.
A
We gotta check your phone. It says, final score. You're at the game. Like, wait, what?
D
I know, it's hilarious. It was. It was a funny ending, for sure.
A
Did I. I saw Mike bailed on you for locks with Cotville.
D
Yeah. So yesterday we did locks with Sipoville in K9.
A
Yeah.
C
When I looked, I go, oh, okay, this makes heads now.
D
Yeah, I mean, Mike's living the life, man. You know, he's on a cruise, you know, with his wife, man. I mean, he's living it up. Dude, it must be nice, you know, we're not hating.
C
Yeah, he's definitely in the sports book. I'm sure he's in the sports book, hanging out on the cruise ship. So.
A
Yeah, I want to know what he. The amount of money he lost when he comes back. Total.
D
He won't give you an honest answer.
B
No, he won't. Hey, addicts never do. We don't canine.
D
Yo.
B
Buccaneers lose.
D
Oh, brutal. Brutal. That was my one loss. I. Dude, I was so hot. I know I said I wasn't gonna bet on sports leading up to Christmas, but I. I went back in my bag and I found some money and I started betting. Dude, I was. I was hot. I hit a four leg parlay. I hit all my bets on Saturday, and then going into Sunday, the Buccaneers were on were on every one of my parlays. Dude. I just, I couldn't believe it, man. I couldn't believe they lost that game. Terrible.
B
I, I think that's, that's the final nail in the coffin for, for coach.
A
Oh, you think so?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
D
I think if the Buccaneers do not make the playoffs, they still have like a 40 chance. It's going to be tough, but there's no reason why they should not be in the playoffs. And I think you got to blame Todd Bowles at that point. Unfortunately.
B
I, I, I will, I would say that it's, it's the defensive coordinator and if it's Todd, then it's Todd, but if it's not, then we need to fire the defensive coordinator for sure because it's been terrible.
C
Do you bring Teddy Bridgewater in as a coach?
A
I don't know.
D
I love Teddy. Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy Two gloves, man. I love him. I, I think he's a great dude. I mean, he's doing decent as a backup quarterback though, man. I don't know if he's ready to coach yet.
B
But hey, old man Rivers is playing again tonight. He's playing the 49ers. Literally.
D
Yeah, he might get murdered tonight, man. The 49ers are ruthless, man. I don't know how that's gonna go.
B
I mean, they better not play zone, that's all.
D
I don't know, man. We'll see, we'll see what happens. Man. Philip Rivers, man, old grandpa.
C
The interesting thing about him is as a, as a soon to be retired guy like Philip Rivers was, him coming in and taking an active playing position gets him a five year re up on the NFL's insurance plan.
B
So, you know, is it, was it a conspiracy?
C
I'm just, I'm just saying, you know, I mean, when you got Cam Newton out there pretending like with his top hats that he's still a great quarterback too, you know, crying and bitching and moaning. I don't know if it's social media that's doing that for him, but you know, Philip Rivers comes in and him and his family now have five more years of insurance for free from the NFL.
B
Well, let me ask you this, K9. You bring in Philip Rivers, who's been sitting on the couch for four years.
C
Five years.
D
Yeah, I think four years. Yeah.
B
Okay, four years. What does that say in your opinion about the state of quarterback development in the NFL right now?
D
Well, let's just, let's say this, okay? The, there was three quarterbacks on the Colts. You had, you had Blah, blah, blah. You had. What's his name, Riley Leonard, who is the third string, who got hurt. You had Anthony Richardson, who was the second string and got hurt. And then you had Danny Dimes, who was the starting. So when you're this far into the season, you can't just go out there and trade for somebody. And there's not really too many quarterbacks in the free agency market at this time. So Philip Rivers, he was actually coaching football at the time and he was running the same plays and schemes as Shane Stichting. Now he has history with Shane Stockton as well. So it, it literally made sense to have Philip Rivers as opposed to someone like Cam Newton or Colin Kaepernick to have Philip Rivers come in.
C
Right.
D
I think that's, I think that's why Philip, Philip Rivers came in. Now to your question. I mean, quarterback is the hardest position in probably all sports around the world.
B
I think maybe goalie is the only other one. Yeah, yeah. Hockey goalie and NFL quarterback. So much is riding on you, and it is very difficult.
D
It is not only the pressure sense of it, but you figure these quarterbacks have to know plays. They have to know audibles, they have to know what this certain word means, who the ball is going to, what play this means. I mean, for an average guy like me, that isn't the smartest. When I played receiver in high school, it was hard enough for me to remember four or five different routes and what this play meant, what that play meant. I mean, the quarterback is the captain of the ship. He knew he needs to know where this receiver is going to end up, what play this is. Is it a run play? Is it a pass play? I mean, that stuff's intense.
C
You got to be able to read the defense.
A
Yeah.
C
As a quarterback, to even be able to pull an audible or, or change the, the coverage.
D
Exactly. I mean, a goalie in hockey is a tough position, but your, your main goal is just to stop the puck from getting in the goal. You don't need to know 2,000 different plays. Maybe not 2,000, but you know what I'm saying.
B
I, the reason why I asked is I think it was Tom Brady, but it could have been somebody else or they were, they were talking about like, hey, quarterback development is a huge problem in the NFL right now. They're not getting developed in college and they're not getting developed when they get there. You're just throwing these guys in there and going like, I hope one works. We'll figure it out. Instead of like giving them five years with the same offensive coordinator, quarterback, coach to get them to where they need to be.
D
Well, here's one of the main issues is back in the day when quarterbacks played in college, they didn't just play one year, they played four years. These guys stayed at the same college. There wasn't. Transfer portal. There wasn't. Let's play here half the year, let's play there half the year. Let's. Let's move up and go from Miami to Alabama. I mean, these guys are switching every year. It's not traditional college football anymore. These guys don't go to Miami University and stay there for four years, graduate, and then go to the NFL. These guys, some of these quarterbacks that are coming to the NFL have only played 12 games. I mean, right? What are you going to learn in 12 games in college? You know, someone like Anthony Richardson, that's on the Colts, I think the guy started 12 games in college. Now look at someone like Bo Nix, who actually did go to college for like six years. Look at. Look at the difference in their games. I mean, this guy's started quadruple more games in college. So by the time he goes to the NFL, he has a lot more experience. I mean, it's just like anything in life. The more experience you have, the better you're going to be. Now, you can't beat natural talent, but, you know.
A
All right, K9. Well, we will see you live tonight at 7. Right? Chain.
C
I didn't even talk about the. You didn't even bring.
A
I got to give him something to talk about his own show.
C
Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. Yeah, okay. At least mention it.
A
Are you ever gonna do a full podcast with that thing on?
D
I can. If it makes you happy, I'll do it, man. That's my goal, to make you happy.
A
Next Monday. All right, Counterculture Inc. Sports on The Counterculture Inc. YouTube live tonight at 7 Canine and Sipo.
D
Yes, sir.
A
All right, we'll see you then, man. Thanks for coming on. Thanks.
C
Still got the best mic. Sorry. Yo, I was thinking, I was like, man, does Mike keep, like, a heater underneath this desk? Because my legs getting really warm, and then I reach down to touch it and I go, there's no feeling there. I go, my. My ass has gone numb in this chair. There's really. Yeah, there's something like I'm pushing on a pressure point and it was the fact that my leg had gone numb.
B
If you.
C
That'll explain why this chair is all out of whack.
A
I think that's a bigger a bigger problem that we're not addressing right now. It's like my legs are going. I'm just sitting down.
B
Well, maybe, maybe it's because he's used to wearing a gun belt and, and body armor and, and that now that you're relaxed and in a nice chair, it's like I don't have the correct posture.
C
I wasn't really creating this, but I think part of the other problem is, is move.
A
Don't move.
C
I can still talk. Part of the problem is, is that I think my legs and backside are a bit bigger than the guy who usually sits in this chair.
D
Oh.
C
So it hits.
B
It hits a little differently. Shots fired. What's the, what's the 10 code for that? What do you say?
C
Well, in south Florida, it's a 33.
A
You just say shots fired.
C
Yeah, don't. Don't let anybody try and guess what the code is. Just say shots fired.
A
So a little. In about five minutes, I've got to step out. I got a very important call. Should only be going for about 15 minutes. Very important. That's why we have another podcaster here helping run the show. But we are going to try and bring on Mike if he ever enters the lobby.
C
I think he said he was going down to the beach.
D
Yeah.
C
So I think, I think we're screwed with that.
A
Well, he enters whenever he wants. I don't even know what time zone it is. Hey, I don't even know where he's at.
B
He paid a lot of money to be in charge. He can do what it wants.
A
Yeah, he'll throw a self proclaimed boss. Hey, let's. Let's set up charity of the week.
C
Oh yeah. All right. So we were reached out to by anti hero and to Donut shop podcast about a GoFundMe. I sent Lewis the link and so while I explain it, Lewis will bring it up, but I'll read it the. I'm gonna butcher the name. The Trio Township Firefighters association is raising funds to help support the funeral and memorial expenses for our brother, Tyler Norwood. Tyler tragically passed away on December 16th at the age of 3. 33. Way too soon. While serving his community as a firefighter paramedic with the Trio Township Fire Department. Tyler was known for his infectious smile and an even bigger heart. He lived a life creating and centered around caring for those he loved and selflessly serving the communities in which he worked. Tyler leaves behind a beautiful four year old daughter, Elias, or Elias, who was the light of his life. Any funds raised beyond the funeral and memorial expenses will be Used to help secure her future, including her education. We are deeply grateful for any support, prayers and shared memories as we honor Tyler's life service and legacy. So you know, one of their, one of his co workers reached out and said hey, I know you guys do this. You've got platforms for it, first responder, veteran communities that are big and supporting good causes. So this is one good cause. Small township that you know.
B
How did he pass away?
C
I didn't, I didn't research.
B
Was that line of duty or.
C
No, I don't believe it was line of duty. I believe it was outside of the line.
A
That's what sucks is that you're covered on an on duty death.
C
Yeah.
A
You know, so generally the way it works.
C
But if, if, if I up in, you know, get in a bad car accident.
B
Yeah.
C
Driving to the anti hero broadcast.
A
We are not covering that.
C
Yeah.
A
Just to put it out there.
C
But it may end up on the show.
A
Yeah, we'll do a GoFundMe. Sure. Yeah.
C
But you know, so, so there's, you know, and, and everybody's got different life circumstances. There's. Some of the agencies may help support with like a life insurance plan, that kind of thing that they can help outside expenses. But you know, we, we're all somewhat invincible. We all believe we're invincible in some sense.
A
I mean, shit, you just survived what, four deployments? Yeah. It's hard to think something can take you down. But unlike unlike Justin here, me and you have big families.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
And one of the things is you could have all the life insurance in the world. You could have all the coverage. You could have everything. At the end of the day it's, it's gonna run out. The more kids you have, the more, the younger your family is, the more, you know, luckily for you, God forbid something happened to you, it's only Lupe that we have to worry about. You don't have like five kids. You know, they're all four years.
C
Just, just two dogs. But, but yeah. So to, to that point so you know he has, he has a daughter, he has a family.
A
Four year old daughter.
C
Four year old daughter. So it's young, tragic to, to lose a father that early and you know, so, so we want to do what we can to help and at least get the word out. So thanks for anybody doing that. And then just a reminder for yourselves, you know, look into that. Especially if you have family, if you have people that are dependent upon you, look into those kind of things earlier you get it. The better the life insurance can do to help you. Not knocking him. You know, he probably has it, but every little bit helps. Stuff gets expensive.
A
Yeah. All right, so I'm gonna step out for this phone call. I'm gonna leave it to these guys to run the show. Y' all let me know how they do, but we got a bunch of good current events.
C
You can leave us a good Yelp review.
A
Yeah. Venezuela, France, Syria, Levia. Leave the other ones for me. Yeah, I wanna. I wanna. I wanna be part of that. But these are all Jimmy's bread and butter. This is what he researches for hours to be only to be talked about for 10 minutes. So. But I'll see you guys in about 15 minutes.
B
Alrighty.
C
Don't kick me in the leg as you leave because it's still numb.
B
Jesus Christ. Are you serious?
C
No, no, it's good, it's good.
B
I'm genuinely concerned. Like, are you starting to smell eggs or anything?
A
I'll be okay.
C
It's a gag green, but it'll be fine. All right, so what do we got?
D
We're.
C
We're going with Venezuela.
B
Okay.
C
And I could talk. Talk with you on this.
B
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, Venezuela, we've obviously seized three tankers now. Well, two for sure. The third we haven't got confirmation on. They ran from the Navy and the Coast Guard and the Marines. Yeah, but let's. Let's face it, it's a tanker. It's not going very fast. You're not outrunning a destroyer.
C
Slow speed chase. Yeah, it's like the captain's like, I've got some. I've got some. Some good tactics. Yeah, you're just listening lazily to the left. Family Guy.
B
I. I know, exactly.
C
So. But, yeah, sorry, we're going down to one star on that one, guys.
B
Yeah.
C
But, yeah, so. So what. What the US did was create a blockade, essentially. And we're. We are policing as we're supposed to in the western hemisphere, but we're giving extra special attention to the northern coast of South America to, you know, try and affect.
B
Yeah.
C
Most likely some change.
B
Yeah. So this weekend, the government in. You know, if you're going to do regime change, which, let's. Let's be honest, all indicators are we're trying to do regime change here. If you're going to do that, you got to have a government in waiting. And they came out today and said they did. Now, there was a female. I have to do that. I try to keep track of all these names in my head. It's very, very difficult. But There was a female, she won the, the, the Nobel Prize instead of Trump.
C
We kind of essentially won the president election. Presidential election.
B
Well that's kind of what we thought.
C
Yeah.
B
But she came out and said, no, I'm going to be the spokesperson. The person that actually won it is this particular, her name is Machado.
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
And this particular gentleman is going to be the President elect. He's the one that should be it. And you know what they're basically saying is this was actually the will of the people. Maduro was not the guy that was elected. This was the guy that was elected. So once that happened, now it's sort of like, okay, well how, how are we going to do that? Right now it seems like the, the current administration is trying to hit Maduro in the pocketbook and go like, hey dude, like you're not going to have any money to do any of your stuff. And there's some other things that are happening too in the region. So the, the 33rd Rescue Squadron of Pararescue jumpers. They specialize in per saving pilots who have ejected from aircraft in, in a combat zone.
C
Air Force PJs.
B
Yeah, the PJs. They're at Roosevelt Roads with all of their equipment, with all of their helicopters.
C
And that's down in Puerto Rico.
B
And that is in Puerto Rico. And I want, I can't remember the name of the National Guard squadron but they specialize in suppression of enemy air defenses. So blown up SAM sites and anti aircraft stuff which is really important if you're gonna start connecting airstrikes or if you're planning to maybe drop the 82nd.
C
Yeah.
B
In. So all of that stuff is pre staged and while that's all happening, the, the Navy is with the help of some marines and the Coast Guard. The Coast Guard is really crazy. And you and I talked about this. The Coast Guard is ostensibly in charge of that VBSS that visit board Search and Seas. Now maybe the Marine Corps providing the muscle, but the guy in charge is a Coasty because it's a law enforcement.
C
Because the law enforcement mission. So they use the, they use the guys of law enforcement to be able to make that instead of approaching it on a military side which could be considered an act of war.
B
Right.
C
You know, and stuff. So the, the, so some of the focus was on obviously there's this, you know, kind of like what they've been talking about with Russia. There's like the Shadow fleet or the, the ghostly. The ghostly but like the band or the Sanction. There you go.
B
Sanction Sanction. Sanction.
C
The sanctioned boats that we know are up to no good. So we've, we've nailed two or we've gotten two of those and they were empty. But this most Recent one had 200,000 gallons of crude in there and was ready.
B
And it was in route to China.
C
Yeah.
B
And that's where it's like, hey, this thing was in route to China from Venezuela, which again, just, I mean, kind of illustrates my point of like, hey, if you're gonna have a war with China, you might want to secure your own backyard first.
C
Yeah.
B
Which is kind of what we're doing. And we are, Are we potato again? Tell me we're not potato again. I. It looks like a potato. What does it look like to you?
C
No, that's good.
B
Okay. All right.
C
Yeah, it's good. I just, I was, I was actually paused.
B
Yeah.
C
On my, on my. Watching the feed.
B
So when. If you're gonna do that, you know, you, you. We got to secure the, we got to secure the back. We got to secure the back door. And it's sort of always about securing the back.
C
Absolutely. You know what I mean?
B
But also now China's like, hey, you, you stole our oil. And it's like, well, you were buying it with the, you know, a ship that's transporting. It's on the sanction list.
C
So, yeah, at least, at least we have violations or we have inconsistencies and stuff, because one of those things is like they're turning transponders off and saying, hey, we're over here, but then they're all the way over here.
B
Or, or, you know, I mean, just like an aircraft, you file a, A plan, a float plan. I guess I, I have to look at Sal McCogliana's page and see what he has to say about this because there's a lot going on. But these guys are like, one of the boardings was of a non sanctioned ship, but it's like, dude, this paperwork doesn't really match, so we're going to go on board and see what's going on.
A
Yeah.
C
Heather says potato.
B
Yep, it's a potato.
C
So potato just means when it gets blurry. Yeah. Yeah.
B
And it, and it always seems to happen like, right, right around this time.
C
Right at advertisement time.
B
Yeah, right around or right at noon. Which sucks because, I mean, it is really bad right now.
C
So. And so they're gonna. So they're hitting it and. And I shared a, A reel this weekend on my Instagram and it was from the Jack Ryan show.
A
Yeah.
C
And it Was him kind of giving a, a class or a dissertation speech in front of a college. I think it was a college class or, or a training room at the F. @ the CIA. And it was, it was breaking down stuff. And this was from episodes, you know, several years ago. But it was all very true that Venezuela has so many natural resources. And we're going to play this natural resource.
B
Game.
C
Yeah. If we're not going to get the natural resources from Ukraine or we're kind of embattled on those, those provinces or those areas on the outside edge of Ukraine that Russia's occupying, where some of those resources are, where are we going to get them from? And, and Venezuela is one of those areas that's, you know, kind of that, you know, if we, if we off the president or we take care of their regime and, and now we've got a friendly US Regime, then why the hell.
D
Not?
B
Yeah. And, and you know, but you know, to the other side of that point, which is if the, the regime there is not friendly to the United States and is friendly to people like China or Russia or something like that, these, these organizations that are, or these organizations, these countries that are, they don't have our best interest interests at.
D
Heart.
B
They. Right now our biggest weapon is logistics. It takes a whole lot to get your butt across, across the Pacific or the Atlantic and do something to the United.
C
States.
B
Yeah. But if you've got a friendly port in Venezuela, that becomes a whole different ball of.
C
Wax. Yeah, no, it's, that's, that's a whole piece of the mess is, is trying to destabilize. Yeah. And screw up the ability to, to, to run.
B
That. But, you know, the other thing that you and I talked about was like, you know, and I, I said this, you and I had this conversation offline, which was about, you know, why aren't we just season these boats and, and getting the stuff. These go fasters that they're just blowing the, out.
C
Of. Oh, yeah. The other, the other side of the topic that's been all over the.
B
News. So, you know, your point was, you know, hey, that's not, you know, 50 kilos of cocaine or whatever it is.
C
That's. Yeah, I was like, I was saying. Yeah, we were saying it's not, it's not the, the square groupers, the, the drums full of cocaine, that kind of stuff, that it's actually going to be ingredients, things to use to cut the cocaine, things to use to create fentanyl and all that. That's, that's most likely what's in there. And so for, for us to lay that out on the deck of a Coast Guard cutter or a destroyer or something like that and be like, look at all this. And then they're using the, the, yeah. You know, periodic table of, of what these elements are that to create this stuff. People are going to be like, what? Yeah, they're just transporting fertilizer to plantation or, you know, to banana farms or whatever. Coconut farms, you know, that's. So just blow it up. Yeah, just, just boom. It looks better for TV.
B
Too. But I mean, you know, you were, you were a police, I mean, still a police officer still. Yeah, but how long were you in the law.
C
Enforcement? 20.
B
Years. I mean, how many times did you hear the, the term war on.
C
Drugs? Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, war on drugs. Obviously I wasn't a cop in the 80s and that's when it started. But you know, the, the war on drugs, the wear red day for drugs or when they started putting red solo cups into the fence to. Right. Say no to drugs. Yeah, that was, it was classic. It was, it was all, well.
B
Now it's a real.
C
War. Yeah, no.
B
Legit. Yeah, like, like you got marines, you know, boarding your ships and you got, you know, drones dropping hellfires on.
C
You. It's no longer a war on the ghettos. Yeah, it's a war. They've decided to finally go to where it was created or where it's.
B
Created, which is, I mean, I'm all for that. I mean, what. When you start looking at it instead of having to go like, hey, we're going to do some jump outs on some guys in the ghetto or in the hood. They're not even going to have the chance to get it in. We're going to blow those boats out of the water, we're going to blow their planes out of this guy. And, and at some point, you know, it's really, it really is going to turn into a real war. All indicators are that like we're going to probably, I mean, the president has a, a, a message today at 4:00pm so we're gonna see what he has to say. But I would suspect that given that we know who the, the government in waiting is and everything else is going on, I would say that this is, this is going to turn.
C
Very. They were saying, I think like Friday or something like that. They were saying also that, oh yeah, we're gonna, Trump's gonna announce we're going to war. And that was like, Friday it was, we got a little dipsy.
B
Do. So I, me and another Guy, we, We sort of pass, you know, open source intel back and forth, and we sort of talked about it, and we were like, yeah, there's a lot of chatter, but the indicators aren't there. And there were some things that, like, I'll give you an example. If you look on Google, you can see which pizza places are near the.
C
Pentagon. Oh, yes. I love this. I love.
B
This. Yeah. And so if you look at. Are they busier than usual on a Friday night, pretty good indicator that everybody in the Pentagon's still there. In the Pentagon.
C
Working. Yeah, they.
B
Weren'T. So, I mean, if you would think that, like, hey, they'd be deep into strike planning, deep into operations planning wasn't happening. And then the second one was the poly market's not moving. And the poly market's been pretty. Pretty solid indicator. So if. If you have all this other chatter, it's just noise, man. You know, you got to look at what, what's really an indicator. To me, the indicator is that all of the things that are in place to do it, but there aren't any. There's no, like, push to, like, okay, game on. You know, you don't see Southcom spinning up and they're down in your neck of the woods. Yeah, yeah, they're not spinning up. They're not busy. You figure they'd be pretty.
C
Busy.
B
Yeah. You know, if all of a sudden all the transponders on the Navy ships go out, you know, like, okay, I guess we're game on.
C
Now. Everything's gone.
A
Dark. They're.
C
Moving. But I, I do, I do love that. It's almost like pizza watch or Pizza Gate. You know, all the pizza places start delivering pizzas and stuff. Stuff. Because everybody's working overtime and, and stuff at the.
B
Pentagon. So, I mean, that's. That's not even, like, new intelligence. The. The Soviets knew that in the.
C
80S.
B
Yeah. So, I mean, like, that's. That's a known known data.
C
Point. Yeah. You just tap into Uber and you see what the Uber eats reports are for the area. So, like, it's, you know, I don't know, I thought, I thought that the, The Trump administration was supposed to be the, the administration of peace. You know, they talked about Nobel Peace Prize, but then what we're seeing is.
B
None.
C
Yeah. No peace. You know, I mean, like, I'm all about strength and stuff, but I don't feel like we're seeing.
B
Peace.
C
Yeah. Unless it's, you know, I know some of this is just saber rattling.
B
To create the big stick.
C
Diplomacy. Yeah, Big stick Diplomacy, which brings us way.
B
Back.
C
Yeah. But it, yeah, it's, it, it's. Well, I don't think we're ever going to see where we're just a peaceful, prosperous world. It just, it's just not in the human nature. You know, it's.
B
It'S. You know, we, when we lived in a world that was the United States and the Soviet Union, it was a binary world. You were on that side or you're on this side, and there was no real in between. Once the Soviet Union fell, it became, I mean, like, you have non state actors. You have, you have, you know, the resurgence of Russia. You've got the, you know, the, the increase in power of China and, you know, all of this stuff that's going on. There's no checks and balances.
A
Anymore.
B
Yeah. And so now you're looking at a situation where we gotta, we gotta figure out how to take care of ourselves and be a little selfish. I mean, and on that note, I don't think, you know, billions of dollars should go to foreign nations in the Middle.
C
East. Well, and that's, and, and that's where I think we're seeing some of that is with the whole NATO conversation with Trump pushing Europe to actually do stuff. And funny enough, you know, Tyler's not here, but we could remind him that, that Germany does have an.
B
Army.
C
Yeah. Germany just moved. Germany just moved weapons into.
A
Poland.
C
Yeah. Like, so I thought, I thought that's, you know, a little, A little kind of like, whoa, wait a minute. Germany just moved weapons into Poland. What are we doing here? Like, do we remember what happened? Yeah, but so, yeah, Germans. Germany pushed some weapons systems east into.
B
Poland.
C
Yeah. Because of Ukraine and Russia and.
B
The. Russia and Belarus. Belarus, which is. Yeah. In the. The. I still call them the Soviets. I mean, like, they may not be calling themselves the.
C
Soviet. The block.
B
Countries. Yeah. But they still pretty much are, you know, part of that. And, and let's face it, Vladimir Putin was a KGB.
A
Agent.
B
Yeah. And by all accounts, pretty good one. He's not.
C
Dead.
B
Yeah. So.
C
Like. And he's, he's still living as, as smart as he can.
B
Be.
C
Yeah. And Belarus just got weapon systems from Russia pushed over. So I mean, if we're sitting here watching war. The, the board.
B
Game.
C
Yeah. Or, or Risk, you know, risk or whatever. Yeah. Not war risk. We're, we're. There's combat power, we're pushing pieces.
B
Around. You know, there's, there's. And, and you have to look at the, the difference between intent and.
A
Intentions.
B
Yeah. Right. And, and the way that I sort of delineate that is we look at Taiwan, right? A lot of the things that we do in and around Taiwan, moving aircraft carriers, strike groups and all this stuff that signals intent. We're going, we intend to protect Taiwan. We intend to not, not let you just walk in there. When you look at what's going on in the Caribbean or when you look at what's going on in Europe, that's intention. Like we are, we are preparing to go ahead and do some combat operations now. Poland just started a couple of big factories to start building land mines again, you know, and put landmines all around their border. They've been invaded like a million times, so why wouldn't.
C
They? Freaking Turkey just gave back. They went to the customer service desk of Russia and said, hey, can you take these.
B
Back? Yeah, we don't want your S4.
C
Hundreds. We heard, we heard America's wants to put us on a F35.
B
Program. Do you know, do you know why they, they couldn't, we couldn't give them F35 because they had the.
C
S400. Because if they're, the information is too close. Like if you're training them on that.
B
Yeah. You're, you're teaching S400 how to find and destroy.
C
F35. Yeah.
B
Yeah. If that's the weapon system that the F35 pilots are going up.
A
Against.
B
Yeah. We don't want them learning how to, to do it. So it's like, hey man, do you want S400 or you want.
C
F35?
B
Yeah. And I think everybody in the world's gonna go, I'll take, you know.
C
F35 for 500 because they've got better, we've got better tech.
B
Support.
C
Yeah. But, and they say they're gonna give them, you know, a, you know, basically if we're going to talk.
A
Iphones.
C
Yeah. You know, America's got the iPhone 17 Pros Max, and they're going to give them, you know, an iPhone.
A
14.
C
Yeah. You know, so the turkey's only got the iPhone 14, still works on the operating system, but you don't get all the cool.
B
Features. Well, the other thing too, and I think everybody knows this, is that have, letting them have our aircraft and our weapon systems. All of them have the export models, all of them have a built.
C
In off switch dog.
B
Fight. Yeah, it's, it's like. Did you ever see the new Battlestar.
A
Galactica?
B
No. Oh, wow. Okay. So at the beginning of the new series Battlestar Galactic, early 2000s, the Cylons have a A back door into the software. And they just put, they just send out the signal and all the Vipers just, you know, engines turn off, cockpit turns.
C
Off.
B
Yeah. And they're just sitting ducks out there to get blown out of the.
C
Sky. He's got to watch your back doors.
B
Boys. Yes, yes. Very important man. This, this potato is killing me, man. I know we're supposed to power.
C
Through it, but is that, is that, is that what we do, is we power.
B
Through? Well, that's, that's word from the top from. It says right there, the idea of broadcast, push through.
D
It. All.
C
Right. It's the Irish in me. I got to push through the.
B
Potato. Yeah, Irish.
C
Too.
A
Yeah. Oh.
B
Wow.
C
Okay. Irish, German. So here we.
B
Go. I'm just Irish.
C
Irish. Yeah. So probably going to Ireland in.
B
June. The only time I stopped in Ireland was on my way to.
C
Iraq. Drink, boys, drink. He's been.
B
There. Yeah, but I mean, like, that they like locked us into like a fenced in area with barbed wire around.
C
It. Ireland's amazing. So it's a great time, beautiful country, super cool people. You know, they, they have, it's, it's a lot of, it's a lot of bed and breakfasts. Yeah. Not Airbnbs, but actual like legit bed and breakfast. Because in the 70s they didn't have a lot of hotels and they wanted to push tourism, so they told the homeowners of Ireland, the residents of Ireland, to open your homes to foreign tourism. And so you come in there and they're, they're cool as. And like we sat in Limerick and, and the, this old man sat down with us and it was, he was the homeowner and he's just telling us dirty jokes the whole time. Yeah, we're like eating breakfasts, you know, at his kitchen table and he's just telling us dirty jokes. So. Gotta love the Irish and, but the food's great. And it's, we had just, we have a blast in Ireland, so looking forward to going back. All right, so what was, what was the other thing that we were allowed to talk.
B
About? The last man said, I, I, I think he.
C
Wants. You said, you said Taiwan. And I, I had heard this morning that we gave Taiwan basically $80 billion worth of support. Oh, yeah, we just threw them $80 billion of support. And it's not just here's a checkbook or here's a check with $80,000, you know, the big ones that they give out. It's, it's not that. It's, it's software. It's Resources, like, weapons systems, all that kind of stuff going into.
B
Taiwan.
C
Yeah. And China basically said, the. You doing? Yeah, like, hey.
B
Dude. Oh, it gets even.
C
Worse. I thought we were.
B
Friends. Yeah, it gets even worse than that because Japan just came out today and said, you know, we should really think about letting America put nukes.
A
Here.
B
No. Yeah. I mean, like, that was like. Like they had a problem with us having a nuclear aircraft carrier there. And then we got them to do that because for the longest time, the four deployed aircraft carrier was the Kitty Hawk, which was a conventional.
C
Carrier.
B
Yeah. And then they were like, we're like, hey, Kitty Hawk's got to go. Sorry, it's too old. We're not building another conventional carrier. We're putting a nuke there. And we dropped two AD splitters on you. So you're gonna let us do.
C
This? Yeah.
B
Yeah. And they said, okay. And now they're at the point where, like, well, you know, and China is looking pretty nasty. You know, maybe in a pinch we could let the. The Americans put some nukes here just in case. I mean, like, if that happened, if that happened, I can't imagine what China's reaction would be because that's. That's not a hundred billion in, you know, aid and support and weapons. That's our nukes in Japan, which would basically be like putting them in.
C
Cuba. Yeah.
B
Yeah. You know, it's like, okay, that's a significant escalation violation. That is literally pointing a gun at.
A
Somebody.
D
Yeah. Put.
C
Us. Put us in their shoes.
A
It's.
C
Yeah. Cuban Missile Crisis. It's the thought of Russia putting missiles in Cuba. Oh, you're right here on our back, back.
B
Doorstep. And I mean, you could make the argument that, hey, that's probably not a bad idea given how belligerent China has been in. In the South China Sea, in and around the Philippines, in and around Taiwan. I mean, they basically did like a mock. You know, you talk about like a embargo. They did like a mock, like, hey, we're cordoning off this area for combat operations around Taiwan a few months.
C
Back. Oh, yeah, yeah. They do it all the.
B
Time. And it. And like, it's like, hey, dude, you're. You're running war games to invade.
A
Taiwan.
C
Yeah. And retrofitting. Retrofitting ferry boats to. To offload. To offload troops on the.
B
Beaches. Good luck with that. By the.
D
Way.
B
With. If they invade Taiwan, there's so much trade that goes to the South China Sea and through the Straits of Taiwan that, like, like, the world would be in chaos. And everybody has to intervene. Korea has to do it. Japan has to do it. The Philippines are. I don't know what they're going to do. Probably send some dudes with freaking Gurkha knives to. They're not Gurkhas. What do they call them, Bolos? The bolo.
C
Knives.
B
Yeah. Go over there and kill them like they're having a. We're gonna have a hell of a time here if that happens. And again, this brings us right back to Venezuela. Gotta secure that if we're going to talk about bringing stuff over to Taiwan. Venezuela's got to be secure so that we ain't got to worry about it because the Pacific is very big, my.
C
Friend.
B
Yeah. And the last thing we need is something like that on a back.
C
Door. Sneaking. Yeah, sneaking up through, through that no man's land in Panama or whatever, right into Venezuela. The, the, we, we named the US Named a Colombian gang as a terrorist organization, too. So, yeah, we're, we're, we're flat out pointing at all those South American countries on the north end that.
B
Aren'T. You can catch.
C
These. Friendly. Friendly. Yeah, yeah. We're like, all right. You guys are terrorists too, so your.
B
Couch. I, I, I mean, like, at some. I, I really don't like that. I don't know how you feel about that. Yeah, I don't like everybody as a.
C
Terrorist. No, it's. It, it becomes. Boy, who cried wolf on all this stuff? Like, you know, what are they truly doing? Like, tell me as the American public, you know, prove to me why what these guys are doing and why they're a terrorist organization and don't just make up some. So we got a call.
B
Coming. Yeah, I think we got a call. I think. Are you taking that.
C
Call? I don't know who takes it, do.
B
I?
C
That. Is that what we do? We don't have a, like a high speed.
B
System. We had a. I think I.
C
Got, I think I took the, the tourniquet off my.
B
Leg.
C
Yeah. And now I'm getting the blood flow.
B
Back. Oh, that's.
C
Good. Actually, no, never mind. It's back to being normal. I'm gonna stick it out. I feel like normally.
B
Mike. Normally Mike has the phone.
C
Just. I got a.
B
Phone. Is it Lewis, do we have a link or what are we doing.
A
Here? Do they want to do a remote.
B
Call? I got it. I got the call.
D
Coming. All.
B
Right. All right, so. Hey, Santa, you're.
C
On.
E
Oh. Merry Christmas. Christmas to the anti hero.
B
Broadcast. All.
E
Right. Ready for Santa this.
C
Year? Yes.
B
We. Santa, we really, we really are ready for Santa this year. But I mean you've got some, some pretty significant airspace over in Chicago and Minneapolis that you're gonna have to go.
E
Through. Who am I speaking.
B
To? Oh, this is, this is Jimmy.
E
Santa. Jimmy, do you have a grown up around.
B
You?
C
Yes. Hey, Santa, this is Justin. What's up, man? I'm a grown.
E
Up. Oh, is this Jimmy.
B
Arnett? It is indeed.
E
Santa. Jimmy. Oh, how are your three beautiful children doing? I got their Christmas.
A
List.
B
Already? Well, that's fantastic. I'm sure they're going to be very thrilled about that. I sure appreciate you taking the time to let me know. I will pass that right.
E
Along. Santa loves his children. I received a Christmas list from you.
B
Jimmy. Oh.
C
No. Oh.
E
Yeah. Let me open it real quick. Let me open this Christmas wish list up from Jimmy. I have a black leather flogging whip and a bundle of.
A
Rope. Oh.
E
My. Is that what you're going to help Santa drive his reindeer.
B
With? I have no idea where this is.
C
Going. I mean, the elves probably make.
E
That. Oh my. Jimmy, you need to see a.
B
Therapist. Oh God, yeah, Probably.
E
Do. To answer your question about Chicago and Milwaukee, we are going to be doing a gun buyback program with Santa's.
C
Elves. Oh, sounds.
A
Good.
E
Yeah. The youth of Chicago will be able to bring guns to the buyback program in exchange for two gifts from Santa's.
B
Workshop. Are you not worried about them robbing.
E
You? It has been brought to Santa's attention that he must pay for a police detail that rates at 85 an.
B
Hour. That's, that's probably more up your lane there.
C
Justin. Yeah, it's a great, that's a great idea, Santa. Very smart. You should, you should at least hire.
E
Five. That wasn't Santa's idea. Santa asked for to be able to deliver gifts to children on Christmas, but unfortunately they do not waver on their detail.
C
Costs. No, you got to pay the.
E
Man. And as far as airspace, to which country were you asking.
B
About? Well, I, I, I mean, Venezuela is going to be a little bit of a problem. Are you going to get any fighter scored to go to.
E
Venezuela? Ew, gross. Santos does not deliver gifts to.
B
Venezuela. Well, that solves that.
E
Problem. So the anti air broadcast. You guys have a Merry Christmas. Merry.
C
Christmas. Merry.
E
Christmas. Please see a.
B
Therapist. I'm working with the VA on that. They keep pushing that backwards. So I guess I'll just have to keep doing it the old fashioned.
C
Way.
B
Vlogging. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.
E
Santa. All right, have a good.
B
Day. You.
A
Too.
C
Bye. I wonder if Tyler's still on his phone call. He missed.
B
Santa. I. He. He's probably gonna be very upset about missing.
C
Santa. Yeah, but more upset about.
B
Potato. Yeah, that's what I was just about to.
C
Say. He's probably more upset about potato, but that's Lewis's problem. You're over here gaming. I'm watching you. I'm watching you. You put codes in and stuff. He's like dual streaming Twitch over.
B
Here. We. We have got to figure this. This out. We have got to figure this.
C
Out. Well, I was. I was telling Jimmy this morning, I did a little upload check or a little speed check of, Of. And this place is down to 56K. Dial up on the upload speed. Yeah, it's got almost gigabyte speed going downloads. So we can. We can pull as much, you know, nudie magazine day as we want. But the. It's the. It's the Billy Madison reference.
B
There. Yeah, I. I mean, I. I would be willing to bet that we need to just have him rerun the.
C
Line.
B
Yeah. Let's start. Let's start with the hardware.
A
First.
B
Yeah. And if we can eliminate the.
A
Hardware. I. I.
B
Don'T. I don't know what we're going to do about this, like, software side because it doesn't seem like it should be this big of an issue. Hey, Tyler. You missed.
C
Santa. Did you know that Santa hates.
A
Venezuela? I assume.
C
So. Oh.
A
Okay. Now that you're back.
B
We. We should probably go to commercial.
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Break. Welcome.
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Back.
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Yeah. Roll that.
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Right. Yeah, yeah. Are we just gonna. I can hear you. I can't hear you either.
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Scene. Okay. You're trying to train it. Yeah.
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Report. Oh.
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God. And. And, I mean, I sent it to. To Mike and them, and I was like, what. What do we. What problems do we have here? I had to tell it like three times. Like, no, this event happened before.
C
This.
B
Yeah. And I mean, it developed a police report. So I was like, okay, yeah.
C
Wow. Wow, for sure. Frank caught me dropping the trans into the advertisement. I'm always trying to messages. And. And I did drop trans into one of the advertisements. You got to find it. Go.
A
Back. All right, let's bring Mike.
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In. Thank.
C
God. I got about a minute.
A
Man. What's.
C
Up? That's what he told her. Can you hear.
A
Me? You have better video.
B
Quality. Alcohol. Dude, I'm. I'm.
A
Jealous. Can you hear.
C
Us? What's going.
D
On? It's going on and.
A
Off.
B
Oh. Oh, you guys.
A
Good? I can hear you. You hear me?
B
Yes. Oh, my.
C
God. We got to get Mike some anti hero earbuds for when I can hear you. Yeah, what's.
A
Up? Yeah, I don't think you can hear us, Mike. We're asking you.
C
Questions. You can't hear.
A
Me. What's up? How are you having fun? When do.
C
You. I can't hear you. I can hear you. It's cutting in and.
A
Out. Go ahead.
C
Drop. I'm just gonna say Merry Christmas.
A
Everybody. It's going in and.
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Out. I'm in the middle of nowhere.
C
But I miss you.
A
Guys. I hope everybody has a great.
C
Christmas. And I'm.
A
Gay. Did he spell alcohol.
C
Wrong? No, you spelled it.
A
Right.
C
Okay. Gambling and.
A
Alcohol. Yeah, I.
C
Like. It's a spin out. Instead of a crash out, he gets a spin.
A
Out. I went. I was on the phone.
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With. Hey, hey.
A
Hey. We're.
C
Back. We're.
B
Back. We're less.
C
Potatoey. Hey. All right. We turned into French fries, so.
A
Maybe. Maybe bringing Mike back on was the.
B
Key. Yeah, he's got the.
A
Secret. It's like when you hit something and break it. So you just hit it.
B
Again. Yeah, I mean, we're. We're not terrible, but I mean, we're.
A
Not. Yeah, I mean, obviously, everybody's been working through this with us. We're going to be. Call it. We're gonna have to get our software, customer service with our Internet Internet provider, because I'm not. We're not paying both of them to get this type of. We pay top dollar for everything. Every whole package for each one. And this is happening. So we'll get it done. We'll get it fixed. I appreciate you guys working through it with.
C
Us. And so you said your phone.
A
Call.
C
Huh? So you said you had a phone.
A
Call. Oh, I had a phone call with the va. So apparently, when you go in and you tell the VA one thing, they're now just blanketing exposure to it. So there is a thing. If you were. If you were. Jimmy's got the black lung over here. The deployment lung. Yeah. If you were exposed to a burn.
C
Pit.
A
Yeah. There is a VA disability rate. However, if 10 year, for whatever reason, this claim, it can only be 10 years. After 10 years, you can't use it.
C
Anymore.
A
Anymore. For me, once I found out it was a thing, I was already. Past year. Past 10 years.
C
So. So kind of like in our law enforcement ideas, it's your statute of.
A
Limitations. Yes. And so I. I put in for it anyways because it was advised me. Just try. There's always, like, waivers or whatever. I didn't get it. But now the VA is taking everything that you put in, and they're running it as from exposures. So they're like, well, because we didn't give you exposure, we're not giving you this. They're doing every single. Every single claim like that. They're trying to base it off of something so they can say, no, it's a whole.
B
Scheme. It's a whole.
A
Scheme. Why would you put a statue of limitations on something that happened to you overseas in combat? But everything else to claim there's no limitations. But this one, there is. And then you do it and you don't get it. And now they run.
C
Everything. I mean, it's got to be because of the sheer number of troops coming.
B
Back. Here's the problem, though. Like, a lot more Troops were exposed to Agent Orange and that doesn't have any statute of.
A
Limitations.
B
Yeah. So why the. Does the burn.
C
Pits? I think because all you guys are getting wise to it and, and.
B
Yeah, no, they're all coming in fantastic, I.
C
Think. Yeah. Yeah. I think you have an era coming back from Vietnam that almost wanted nothing to do with.
A
Anything.
C
Right? Anything. And so they, they didn't. And then you've got you guys in a, in a situation where you're like, look, I'm gonna come for what's due. I mean, I'm coming for what's, what's owed to me for my service, to your.
B
Point. So my, my father in law was a marine in Vietnam. You know who helped him get all of his VA benefits? My mother in law. She was the one that was smart enough to do it. She was the one that had the education and the background to do it. And she was the one that made sure he got what the government owed.
C
Him. Because you have, you have podcasts like this, you have YouTube videos, you've got just, just mates, just dudes talking to each other through all these communities.
A
Now turn British for.
C
Us. Yeah, mates. I mean, I, I love my little soccer. Soccer quips. So you, you've got friends that are just, you know, or people that you meet, you know, and we're not talking VFWs down the street. I didn't realize how close that place was. You guys literally.
B
Walk. We could, we could, we could, you know, I, I was gonna say fire a gun and hit it, but I mean, I feel.
C
Like. Calm down, calm.
A
Down. We could build a tribute.
C
Potato. Remember, this is recorded, so there's.
A
A couple more topics we're gonna talk.
B
About. We weren't really sure which ones you wanted. You were just like, all those and we're like, that's a lot. So which one do you want? France? Do you want airstrikes in Syria? Do you want.
A
James? I thought you. Did you talk about any of.
C
Them? We did.
B
Venezuela. We did Venezuela. We covered that pretty.
A
Extensively. Well, so there's a picture L actor, James.
B
Ranson. Yeah.
A
Ranso.
B
Yeah. It's like losing one of us, man. I, I commented.
A
That. Well, I mean, it's crazy. We just talked about the Wire, the last broadcast. We talked about how an amazing show that was. And dude, this guy, I mean, he was in Generation Kill, obviously. That's where me and Jimmy probably first saw him. That. But he was in the Wire before that and he. Blockbuster Rules, was the star in Sinister 1 and 2 and then it movies and I mean, he was not a failed actor by any means. That's actually up and coming.
C
Actor.
A
Yeah. And it just, I mean, it goes. It. I think it, it proves that like mental health and mental. Mental health awareness is a real.
C
Thing. Like is that. I didn't, I didn't read totally. But that's what his.
B
Passing. Well, I mean, he hung himself.
A
Wife, three kids, promising career, and he killed.
C
Himself. I mean, dude, like disease type stuff. Did he have anything. Has anything come out.
B
That. I mean, because I know they talked about his struggle with.
A
Addictions. Okay, Is that what you meant by.
C
Disease? Yeah, because some people not. Yeah, I mean, obviously we have mental disease, but aside from mental disease, some people will get terminal type diagnosis that say, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take this or I'm gonna do this to protect my family or so they don't have to deal with, you know, that kind of.
A
Stuff. Oh, yeah. That probably wouldn't be in writing anywhere. Yeah.
C
Yeah. I mean, I, I just, I. I've known of people in the public, not necessarily like family or friends, but you know, that have had these terminal diagnosis where they know they're gonna just basically fall off a cliff mentally or, or you know, like a dementia or that kind of stuff. And so they've done that. And then you've got a public figure like this, that, that we're all kind of at a loss where we're like.
A
Wow. I just think sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes celebrities hit people differently. And this one just. Man, I. I thought he was an amazing actor. And he played in a show about. I watched while I entered.
C
Iraq.
A
Yeah. And they did their push to.
D
Iraq.
A
Yeah. And it was a great, great.
C
Show. And.
B
He'S. He's a typical specialist.
A
Man. Yeah. And. And we had just talked about the wire. He was on the wire. And then they find out he killed.
C
Himself. And then over the weekend, you hear.
A
This. One of the big things about this show is brotherhood, community, camaraderie. We. If anybody listening ever has those thoughts, you need to figure out a way to get a hold of me, get a hold of Justin, get a hold of Mike, get a hold of.
B
Jimmy. Yeah.
A
Absolutely. I mean, 100. This.
B
Group. Get a hold of.
A
Justin. I get this group. Although this community, although strong, what we call it the 99, I think is what.
B
We'Re.
A
Yeah. Is there are statistically speaking, people that are struggling and they're not going to tell people. And the whole point is building this. So that way if somebody is struggling, they have a whole community of people to reach out to. So all jokes aside, all crazy aside, you need to get, if, if you need to get a hold of some of. There's at least 25 active people in this group. Use Patreon, use Instagram, get a hold of somebody. And, you know, we've all been there, we've all been around people that need help. There weren't. You're not just gonna get tattletaled on with a VAA or tattletailed on the crisis, you.
C
Know. Dude, I, I, I, I talked to an academy mate of.
A
Mine.
C
Mate. I threw it out again, sorry. A guy. And I was, I was catching up with him and I'm like, yeah, bro, you know, like, so you hit your 20? Because he was in the academy with him, with me, and he's like, no, dude, I was out at 17. He goes, he was a Marine or is a Marine, because you never, you never was he. And he's, and he's a police officer in South Florida. And he was like, I'm going through some, I was going through some anxiety, and I was having some anxiety problems outside of work. He goes, when I was at work, I was like, you know, hard charging, like, ready to go doing the work stuff. But he goes, I told a captain who was a friend of mine that I've known for the longest in the police department, he goes, I was telling him that I was having some anxiety problems, talking about it, thinking he's reaching out to a friend, and he goes, I got thrown into the, basically the loony bin squad and they, they took my gun from me, made it worse, pulled all this stuff. And so he's telling me all this and I'm like, holy, bro, I wish I had known, you know, and, and it's, and it's hard for most of us. And I can speak to this because I've done it. It's hard to reach out and talk to somebody, talk to a peer, talk to a co worker, especially when you're afraid of the risk of your job having a problem. But, you know, all of us, I, I've got, I've got a guy in my DM talking to me about embarrassment of pissing his pants. And I know that we dealt with that almost when we were in New York running around trying to find a bathroom in the subway station and we thought we were all going to piss our pants. And I go, sometimes you just got to own up to it. I pissed myself just like Billy Madison. No, we didn't, I didn't, I.
B
Don'T know that kind of A.
C
Problem? No, I'm just kidding. But you know, if you do, you gotta own up to.
B
It.
C
Yeah. All the cool kids piss their pants. Come on, buddy. Yeah, but I mean, just slide in the dms, Talk to us. It's. I'm not going to tell the story on social media or on a podcast. You know, talk to us. I mean, I was a hostage negotiator, crisis negotiator for eight years with the police department, so I've talked to the gamut of. Of subjects, people in the. In real life. So I'm. I'm totally cool with.
A
It. I mean, Jimmy, you. I think out of all of us, you probably are the closest impacted by suicide. Yeah. I mean, not to hit you with it. I know you probably were mentally.
C
Prepared. Come.
A
In.
C
Come.
A
Right. Well, I mean, I've never lost a best friend. I've never lost a family member to. I've lost people that I was close with, people that I would consider. Consider friends, but I've never lost somebody that. The. Just the desire, like, man, I. I mean, I'm not trying to make you emotional, but I wish you just would have called.
B
Me. Well, I mean, you know.
D
With. With.
B
Greg. You know, I've talked about Greg a couple of times and. And you know what? I'm not going to apologize for that. I'm gonna take every opportunity I can to talk about my friends that I lost. You know, Brent.
A
Brent. New.
B
Greg. New Greg.
A
Real.
B
Well. Greg was a superhero. He was everything that you would want to be. He's everything. He was everything he wanted to emulate, and he ended up in the Delta Force, you know, and so when a guy that good, that is that far ahead of everything. Now, obviously he had some stuff going on in his life, and, you know, I wasn't in the Delta Force when that happened. I. I know what I was told, but I wasn't there. And. And I'll let guys like Brent talk about that. But when Greg ended up having to leave the Delta Force two days later, he shot.
A
Himself.
B
Yeah. And it really can't. I mean, you can look at a guy and go, that's. That's everything I want to be. That's the guy I want to be. And think everything is squared away, and it's not. And if you know, by the same token, you start asking yourself, well, like, did he know he could have called me? Because I damn sure wish he.
A
Had. Yeah.
B
Did. Did. Did I not do a good enough job as a friend? Like, what did I miss? And that's a really, really Hard question to ask. And then, of course, you know, you end up going like, hey, dude, you're making this about yourself. Your friend's gone and his family's grieving and everything else, so you, you kind of just shove all that away and you go, like, okay, well, I got to deal with this. But then, you know, I mean, he killed himself. 2018. I mean, you, you wake up, wait, you know, you're sitting outside one night getting sued by Rob o', Neill, and you go, man, I really wish my friend was here to talk about.
C
This.
A
Right. Yeah.
C
Right.
A
Right. And, and people have to understand that it's not people. They need you. And you. I get what you're saying. Like, I don't want to sound selfish, like, I need Greg right now, but, like, at the end of the day, people need to understand that committing suicide, there's just so many people, it's going to affect negatively because they need you. They might not express it. We don't express it to each other. I don't express I need Justin, but I never tell him I need to. You know, I need him as a.
C
Friend.
B
Yeah. I mean, we, I mean, dudes suck at.
A
That.
B
Yeah. I mean, I, I, I, I try to. So, like, when, When Terry was killed. Well, I don't remember her last name. The sheriff's.
C
Deputy.
A
Yeah. Oh.
B
Yeah. I don't, I'm sorry, I don't know her last name. But, like, when she was killed, like, I was like, hey, Mike, how you doing, buddy? And he, you know, hey, man, I'm not the one that died. I got up today and, you know, yeah, he's. That's the way he is, and that's exactly how he operates. But at the same time, it's like, hey, bro. I mean, I, Mike's kind of. But in some ways, Mike's kind of the guy you want to worry about, because it's like, he says he's good, but is he.
A
Good? I mean.
B
Personality. He is the stereotypical, like, hey, we really need to ask the question. Question of this guy. And, bro, I need you to be honest with me.
A
Like.
B
Yeah. Are you good? Do you need to talk about it? Because it's.
A
Okay. It's a, It's a slippery slope. It can start and it could take years to manifest. And then what you typically don't want to do is wait until you're on the day. Yeah. To actually reach out, because by that point, it, statistically speaking, a lot of people don't recover from that.
C
Day. Yeah, there could be damage. That's Already.
B
Done.
A
Yeah. And so that's why, again, like, the community that we're building is meant for that, to keep people out of that downhill slope. I mean, we've all had points in our lives that suck. They're just hard times in our lives. And when you're part of a community, you can break away. We're three idiots on a thing. Yeah. But it's, it's therapeutic for me to have this community and I would hope it's therapeutic for other people. Just have us on in the background, like, laugh at our jokes, like, know that we engage with them. And so at the end of the day, if anybody is going through that, man, you know, the last, the last thing I want is somebody to think that they're not with us and they're alone.
B
Yeah. And I, I can, I can tell you for a fact that this, if you got into this chat right now and said, hey, I'm kind of struggling, somebody would be like, what's up.
A
Bro? You probably have 20.
B
DMS. Yeah, yeah. Hey, bro, what do you.
A
Need? What do you.
B
Need? What do you.
A
Need? We had someone like that that said some things that I don't want to say. Alarming. They alerted me on the live.
C
Chat.
A
Right. Thursday night and back when we did the squadcast and we got in touch with him and, you know, everything was fine. He was just, he was going, he started that downhill slope. And you know, alcohol is not going to help. Even though we all love alcohol. Yeah. It just doesn't help.
C
Anything. And so, yeah, there's like, you could see it with me when I was going through it and I was, I was becoming more like snarky or like quick to take jabs at people. When I was going through this a couple years ago and, you know, it ended up biting me in the butt, work wise. But ultimately I'm better for it having, you know, my world shook up and, and, and knocked down and then, and then I was able to come out of it and stuff way.
A
More. Now you have a better sight picture on.
C
Everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, you just, you, you don't realize. And then when you have that lack of a community or lack of a group that's going to say, hey, tell me about it, tell me what's up. That are going to listen to you and that aren't just going to listen to you, they're actually going to help you do something. You know, I'm not saying I needed anybody to go out and kill somebody for me, but, you know, I need people to, to pick me up and walk. I mean, with me, Jimmy, if.
A
I called you 11pm on a night, on a Wednesday night, I said, dude, I'm not doing well and I need you to come to my house. I hang up the phone, what are you.
B
Doing? I'm getting in a.
A
Truck. Yeah, a lot of people don't have friends like that. A lot of people, like, they just don't have people that. And it's hard because you have to find those in your acquaintance pool. I mean, we do have work.
B
Acquaintances. And yeah, the, the, the, the best part about working here, and let's face it, you know, Justin and I were talking like, hey, this is a job, okay? We work here. The best part about that is that there's a. I mean, like, I was talking to Mike about the podcast thing, and I, I was like, hey, man, are you busy? And he's like, call me right now. I want to talk to you, like, immediately. And it's like, dude, haven't really had that since I was in the.
A
Army.
B
Yeah. You know, didn't have that as a contractor for sure. I had to watch my P's and Q's as a contractor. You know, didn't have, I mean, I had some guys that I consider really good friends when I was working.
A
Construction, but, like, they didn't have the same.
B
Background. Yeah, they.
A
Didn'T.
B
Yeah. And so, but like, with this group, it's like, I could probably put out a story and people would be like, dude, well, let's, let's talk. Let's talk. And, and on top of that, like, you and Mike and Justin and, you know, even canine, if I called.
C
I am positive, maybe Lewis, maybe, you.
B
Know, Lewis, but I, I probably wouldn't go to him.
C
First. He'll get to you.
B
Later.
A
Yeah, I will work on it.
B
Tomorrow. I'll talk to you on Monday.
A
Jimmy. Like, well, I mean, but yeah, I, I, I, my people have said, like, my, I've been on in bed cruising stories and, you know, and my wife will be like, oh, you should probably, like, ask him if he's okay. I'm like, he's fine. I don't want to bother.
C
Him.
A
Yeah. You know, but it starts there. Like, even just like when someone posts something, they're posting it, and it might not be the biggest deal to you, but there might be a huge struggle that they're going. And again, it's the stopping the die. It's stopping it because it's like a, it's like a sledding down a hill. But, but Start.
B
Going. The problem is, is that, you know, a lot of times, it's not one bad day. It's an aggregate effect of.
A
Several. Ah, there it.
C
Is. The word of the.
A
Day.
B
Aggregate. Yes. But the. The other part of that is nobody knows where that's. Where that drop off is. Like, at some point, there's a cliff, and.
A
Nobody.
B
You. You can be tight with somebody and not have any idea, and then just. It's over. And, you know, dude, you want to stop 22 a day. It's not government programs. It's not.
D
Nonprofits. It's.
A
Not. It's not. It's not T.
D
Shirts. It's.
B
Not. It's. It's community. Because here's the thing that we like. I use this as an example, Tyler. You, me, and Justin are in a fire team, okay? And, Tyler, you broke your foot, and you're on crutches. Who's carrying your tray in the.
A
Defect?
B
You. Yeah, yeah. Who's. And we're gonna open the door for you. Right.
C
Right.
B
And. And everybody's like, got your back. 100. Like, hey, you broke your foot on a ruck.
A
March. You're a couple profile jokes here and there.
C
Yeah. Oh, yeah, we're definitely gonna make fun of you, but that's the.
A
Community.
C
Yeah. And that was talked about, too, is like, you can make fun of people when you trust them. When we trust each other. And that's. And that's where the dark humor and all that kind of stuff comes in, is you can do that when you trust people. There's. There's people that I'll throw dark humor at, even zone partners at work. And they're like, hey, man, that really hurt my feelings. And I'm like, the. Yeah, hurt your feelings. I'm telling you that I love you without telling you I love you sometimes because you're a girl. And if I say I love you and my wife hears, she's gonna beat the. Out of.
A
Me.
C
Yeah. But if I'm giving you dark, followed quickly by you, you know, and so. Yeah. And then. And then you're dead. So, like, if I'm giving. If I'm using dark humor, I'm telling you that I trust you, and then I'm cool with you and I'm down with you. You like, because otherwise, that's not the thing. So obviously you've now told me something, so later, you know, And. And so that's. That's. That's.
D
Huge.
B
The. The way that we combat this.
D
Loss.
B
Of, you know, identity. And that's. I mean, it's kind of what it is. It's just like this is. I didn't define myself by my job. I defined myself by my peers. I defined myself by this organization, this, this group, this family dynamic. And that's how I judged myself. I judged myself based on my peers. I. I looked at myself and, and I got feedback from my peers, good and bad, and I got a sense of community from it. And when we left our organizations, that stuff evaporated literally in seconds. It was like overnight it was done. And the way that we combat this is by creating another one of like minded people. And it's.
A
Not. And I'm sorry to the wives, they would, I mean, they would say the same thing with their girlfriend. I'm not. I can't be.
C
That.
A
Yeah. The wives cannot. They are your best friend. They are your ride or die for real in life. Like, they go through everything with you. But sometimes with stuff like this, there's absolutely nothing a wife can do for you. There's just not. You have to have the boys. And I would imagine, like, if you, if you're all friends, like now I got to worry about. If I tell Joe, Joe's gonna tell his wife who's doing a wrap around and tell mine. I don't. It's not at all. It's. And I'm like, I don't want people to worry about me. I don't want anybody to say anything. But it. I am start. If you're smart enough to recognize the slope, it's important to like, you know, keep that, keep that stuff under.
C
Wraps. You got to be honest with.
B
Yourself.
C
Yeah.
A
Honesty. Not under wraps for you or your boys.
C
Like.
A
Yeah. You know, sometimes the, the, the wives just, they can't help you. And they don't. They tell. They want to everything about their lives and their wives help them fix everything about their life. But at the end of the day, there's just certain things that you.
B
Know, especially when, and I mean, like if you've carried a gun for a living, that's, that's really the big one. I mean, I, I don't know that. I mean, I'm sure that like, you know, ER doctors probably have something.
A
But I, I think the t. Firemen. I mean. Yeah. There's some kind of.
B
Yeah. But I mean, like when, when you are faced with a lot of death and your own mortality and, you know, you've had to go to a bad crime scene and shove that to the.
C
Side.
B
Yeah. Because you got to do your job and then you got to go home and, you know, dinner's.
C
Burnt.
B
Your. Your kids think you're a joke, and your wife, you know, whatever it is, not that that's my problem. I don't.
C
Know. All right, It's.
B
Jimmy. We figured it out, you know, but you hear these stories from cops and, you know, firemen and, you know, service members all the time. It's like, dude, we deal with some pretty harsh.
C
Stuff.
B
Yeah. And on top of that, like, I might die and I may have to kill somebody or have had to do.
A
It. I mean, even. I mean, I just. On the war against men in our culture and society, like, I mean, well, our culture, in our society back 30 years ago, used to support what men go through. Men didn't like, although they had. They had to fight the battles that they fight every day for their family. Society and culture used to back them up, and now society and culture attacks them while they still fight the same fight. Yeah. And they tell. They do things like tell your. Your wives that you're toxic and tell. You know, these are all bad traits about you. And, you know, dude, dudes go through it.
B
Man. I mean, for it, you know, I mean, by the way, Chaotic Canine is back. Did you see that in the chat? I wanted to point that.
A
Out. Chaotic.
B
Canine. Yeah, he. He was a. He was, you know, a watcher when Brent was here. Kind of left with that parting and. Oh, and now is.
A
Back. Oh, he comes back when we look like.
C
Sorry. Yeah, somebody. Yeah, somebody else was saying, you know, like, I left the show and the. The equipment must have gone downhill. I can tell you, as somebody who's been here on both sides of it, the equipment's actually even better. It's the Internet service provider. I think we're narrowing it down. We're gonna get to the bottom.
A
And everybody's playing the blame game. Like, oh, it's. It's a software. And software is like, no, it's the Internet. So now we're having to, like, this is going to take some.
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Time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, you know, Central Florida is always behind the.
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Times.
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They're. They're more worried about sinkholes and stuff. Stuff here in Central.
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Florida. But, you know, I mean, I. If you want to kind of put a bow on this. I think one of the reasons why there are so many, like, I.
A
Thought you're gonna say put a bullet in.
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It. No, but, you know, there. I think one of the reasons why you see so much popularity with guys from, you know, the soft world is because there is a. A real need for what Does a real man look.
A
Like. Oh, yeah, that's a good.
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Point. And because you. You can look and go here.
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To Jack the tattoo.
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Dude.
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Yeah. You could be a. You could be a store clerk. And I'm like, appearances, everything.
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Like.
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Yeah. I'm motivated by the way that dude looks. He takes care of himself.
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Yeah. Nobody's really motivated by the Starbucks.
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Barista.
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No. You know, to. To. To get out there and be strong and stuff like.
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That. And.
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All. It's.
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All. It's all. We, me and Brain talk about time. Like the poster children for the military should be the big Jack, tattooed, bearded dudes. Yeah. That's how. That's how you recruit young.
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Guys.
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That's.
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That's. It's like psychology, right? We don't want. I have two moms in the military was good to me.
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Posters. Well, and it's just like. So we stay with the military recruitment. The. The Navy used Top Gun. All right. How many naval aviators are there.
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Compared.
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Shitload. Compared to the rest of the Navy, though. Yeah. How many aviators are in the Air Force? The thing's called the Air Force, but how many pilots are actually in the Air Force? Not to have that many? So, you know, it's, you know, so we understand that the. The soft guys, there's not that many, but you need to use them to recruit for the military.
A
Right? Yeah. And I mean, dude, look at, like, you guys, remember, you're my age. Do you guys remember the Navy commercials in the mid 2000s that used.
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Godsmack?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Obviously there were probably seals and special operations in the community, but I.
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Mean, it was, you know, planes coming off the pony end and, like, missiles firing.
A
And. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. It had the. The old black dude actors. Accelerate your.
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Life.
C
Yeah. Or there was The Lou Gosset Jr. One for the Coast Guard that I shared with my buddies from the Coast Guard. And it was like complete 1980s Miami Vice. Like, it was a. You know, the. The. The helicopters coming in from the Coast Guard, like, using a loudspeaker on drug runners and.
B
Stuff. We were blowing them up with.
C
Hellfires. Yeah. We weren't blowing them up. And then Lou Gosset Jr. Walking up the gang plank like, you want to join the Ghost Guard? Like, all this stuff is so funny.
A
Dude. It goes. And the Border Patrol is doing it, man. Yeah. If I was a young kid trying to look into going into some kind of warfighter profession or fighter profession, I would. I probably really consider the Border Patrol. And they are notoriously not the guys to go to when you're looking to be a fed or law enforcement, but their commercials say.
C
Otherwise. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, do you want to, you know, I can segue that into something that's going on with ICE right.
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Now. Let's do.
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It. Okay. So I, I'm gonna give you this because I didn't, I purposely didn't give it to me. Ice? No, not you. You know him. They are re. They're revamping their, basically their academy and they're doing a lot more vehicle operations. They're doing a lot more training for vehicle operations. They're doing a lot more like multi vehicle vehicle operations and how to stop. You know, some of the people that are interfering with them because the TTPs for the, the people that want to interfere with ICE operations have pretty much all been vehicle born, if you.
A
Look. Yeah, well, all the.
D
Incidences.
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Yeah. Been vehicle incidences.
B
Right. And so if you were, if you're looking at that, what do you think? If they're getting ready to do come spring some up, they're probably getting ready to do some jump outs now. Now, me and, me and Justin had a conversation about this and he's got a really interesting point of.
A
View. Oh.
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God. And I mean, you know, he was in a Papira.
C
Bitter. I'm sorry. I. I got into the chats. I reformed back to what I do on the weekends when I'm watching the show and I'm texting in the chats and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm on the freaking show. You were, you were talking about ICE and, and the stuff.
B
That. So low.
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Hanging. Yeah, There you.
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Go. Thank.
C
You. Yeah. So in, in my area down in South Florida, they've been swinging through all the streets and just pulling over like lawn care trucks. Dude, I'm telling you, to me, to me, that's frustrating because I'm married into a family, my wife's second.
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Generation. I thought you were gonna say because my lawn needs to be.
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Cut. That too. That too. Okay, we'll go dark jokes. But it is true. It is.
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True.
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They're. They're out here doing the, they're out here doing the Lord's work, cutting my.
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Lawn.
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And. But they're, in my opinion, they're going for low hanging fruit. And so to get a little serious numbers, I think we should be. I. And that's probably what's already happened over the past six months is they've already hit all their top 100 bad boys, the, the trended at Agua, the gangs, all that kind of stuff. They've already wiped those out. So now they're still trying to, to do what their, their credo is or what they've, what Trump's pledged for them to do. So they're going out and trying to get numbers and they're running these guys. And we know from being law enforcement, there's days when you're like, oh, let me go hit some low hanging.
A
Dude. I'm telling you, you're. You're the street crime supervisor. And I came to you and I said, how do I get in your spot? And you say, I want arrest. That's what I'm looking for there, young buck Tyler. And I go out there and let's just say I made a bunch of good arrests and effectively you can square away a block by doing that. And now you can't not have numbers. So then you start going for the crack pipes and the things that you wouldn't have cared.
C
About. Shake in the Shake in the center.
A
Concert. Like, there's no real crime, but you're like, you know, you're looking at warrants. You're like, this person lives five minutes away. They drive a black Honda and they have a misdemeanor. Misdemeanor traffic warrant. Yeah, they live in a nice neighborhood and their name's like, you know, everything's registered, everything's right. And you go knock on the door and she's like, hello. And you're like, ma', am, I'm so sorry. You have a warrant for your arrest. And you're like, out on the outside, you're like, out of all the warrants, you go get Tammy. Yeah, nice lady that would bake you cookies and bring him to your precinct who didn't know she had a warrant. And you take her into custody. But it's a number and it's, it's a profession. It's a game. Like, at the end of the day, you can't. You will not thrive as a cop if you don't put out numbers. You won't if you. And that's why I, that's one of the reasons why I got out is because at the end of the day, put, they need numbers. And I just became so much of a constitutionalist. I'm like, man, I just don't want to, like, do this.
C
Anymore. Yeah, yeah, no, I, I see what you mentioned. Part of that. And I'm going to kind of come off of the ice story a little bit. There's this arrest that just happened.
B
Recently. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, it Was in the.
C
Villages. In the village. Oh, yes. It was Marion County Sheriff's. So this woman had. For whatever reasons, the news didn't really cover this. Why she fled. I think it was.
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Virginia. It was.
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Louisiana. Louisiana. Why she fled Louisiana. It was in the 70s with her daughter. She fled. Her husband or the baby's father, let's say baby's father. She absconded and she moved.
A
She. She really didn't kidnap a.
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Kid. No, it was her own kid. So we don't know. And I'll argue on her. Her behalf because I have a friend. I would live his life, say it was an abusive relationship and she fled that relationship because it was the only thing she knew how to.
A
Do. But there weren't services back.
C
Then. Yeah, this was the 70s. So essentially what happened is she fled. And she fled to Florida or wherever. So right now, today, she's in Florida. Her adult daughter is an adult, you know, so she's off on her own. So somehow this. Oh, I think she tripped because of, like, a 43andMe type thing. Like a DNA.
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Test.
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Yeah. And so Marion county found out she's there. So I'm just part of the.
A
Thing. Was she missing out of Louisiana or something?
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Like.
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No. What she's wanted. She has a warrant still for kidnapping for 40 years. For 40 years or 50.
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Years. Yeah. And it. It was dropped and brought back for a.
C
While. She was like, in the top 10America's most wanted because she hadn't been found.
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Yet. But they couldn't find.
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Her. They couldn't find her. They didn't know. She just disguised herself, lived her life. And so she's living her life in, like, freaking Maran county in the villages type thing. And so the. The whole reason for my story. That's hilarious. You watch the body cam and the cops get out and her Karen neighbor is, like, doing what. We know that they all do. It wasn't me. Officer, they're coming for you. She legit was doing it, and they legit were coming for.
A
Her. Ma', am, step over there.
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Please. She was like, that's exactly what.
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Happened. I'm sorry.
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Yeah. Did you see the video? Oh, okay. Yeah, I.
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Know. I enjoyed the story. Like, I finally figured out what.
C
You.
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You. But because I remember watching that, I'm like, how the. Is this.
C
Kidnapping? Yeah. So. But. So that's the backstory is it's kidnapping by law. I. I.
A
Like. Sounds civil to.
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Me.
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Yeah. The only reason why the police were there is because it was a.
C
Warrant. Oh, 100. They could. Marion county could care less. Yeah, probably. This lady's living her life, that man's living his life, you know, but. And then the news followed up with, she's, she's now gotten back together with his.
B
Dad. It sounded like the, the deputies that were like, they were like, I really don't want to do.
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This.
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No. Yeah, I don't think so either. You know, they got to do.
A
Their, that's, that was probably a fugitive task force, not like a, not like a marshals takedown team. But they, they have, they have teams out. The big agents, sheriff's offices have like, strictly like, they show up, they're underneath actually the.
C
Courthouse.
A
Yeah. And they show up to work 9 to 5 and they have a list of just warrants. They're, they're usually not high profile. They're not very dangerous warrants. They're just. Jimmy had that warrant for this, that and the other thing, and he's, we think he's going to be there. We go knock and talk. If we try two times and we can't figure out where you are back, it goes on the back burner. Right. And they just try to, to, to keep feeding the courts with warrants so that the county can have less active warrants out.
C
There. We get calls, we get calls all the time from other counties saying, hey, can you go knock and talking. So our sergeant will stay on the air. He'll go call whoever's calling you to do that first, get some background. But 90 of the time, our sergeant's like, nah, nah, they can come.
A
Over. Road supervisors hate warrants because it takes a deputy off the street or a cop off the street. Doesn't really show any actual proactivity. They can't really say like, oh my, my cop took this amount of dope off the street. I mean, granted, if, if the deputy or the cop finds that's good, but like, hey, people calling in saying, this person's got a warrant, dude, supervisors, let's leave that on the board for.
C
Days, especially if it's a day shift thing. On midnights, we used to do it, we used to print out the warrants list because, I mean, two o' clock in the morning, you're bored af. And so we're gonna run around and we're gonna try and see if we can find this guy or find that, that, that ultima driving around or whatever, because we know this guy's got it. But, but day shift, man, we got bigger fish to fry. There's, there's stuff going on. There's.
B
Calls. And again, I mean it. When you, when you. I, when I read the story, I was like, I don't know, just like what you were saying. Like this lady could have been running. We don't have any freaking.
A
Backstory.
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There's. If I was in charge, I would like. If, if I'm the shift supervisor, I'd be like, give me more.
A
Background. No, see, the problem with our society is that we watch too much Netflix. So we see one story about a lady who stole a kid 50 years ago. Like legit stole it like out of a baby carrier and then took it and then raised it. The kid didn't know any.
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Better.
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Yeah. And then like that lady goes to prison. Like we see one story like that, so now we're all like, that's what.
B
Happened. Yeah, that's what.
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Logic. No logic. Drama.
C
Only. Yeah, look, I mean there's, there's bigger stuff to the stories. I mean, one of my good friends, she lived in the state of Virginia. And in the state of Virginia, if they're not married and she has a child, he has 50 custody, 50 rights to the child. But at the time, in the state of Florida, a woman out of wedlock gives birth to a child, she's 100. That child's caretaker supervisor has all the rights. The man doesn't have a rights granted during just post pandemic time in the state of Florida. DeSantis gave out of wedlock fathers more parental rights rights. Gave a father more rights. Gave like a boy that you.
A
Had to apply for father's.
C
Rights. A boyfriend that maybe lives with a child of his girlfriend for several years and is a father figure now in the state of Florida has more rights to that child. But, but five years ago we, we go, hey, you guys are married. That came out of that. She's got, she makes all the decisions in Florida. So my friend, what she decided to do was come to Florida. She said, I'm out of here because the man was her boyfriend, was violent and, and hurting her and all that kind of stuff. So she left Virginia and she came down to.
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Florida.
C
So. Because she knew that when she gave birth to her daughter, she'd have more rights. But. Well, a little anecdotal story. Sorry guys. Down on that. No, no, back to the ice.
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Stuff.
C
Yeah. Yes. The lawn care stuff, in my opinion is a low hanging fruit that I'm a.
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Little. That's not what you.
C
Said. I get a little. What did I.
B
Say? You said it's like Nazi that.
C
Way.
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Okay. Oh.
C
Yeah. Okay. Yes. Because that's not what you said that was a private conversation. But, but yeah, no, it's, it's basically you're. They're doing a traffic stop, pretextual stop on a vehicle, and they're basically walking up going, papers. Yeah, give me your papers. You know, and they're asking for.
B
Papers. Very Italian, but I'm down with.
C
It. So I was watching, I was watching Emily in Paris last night. But so it's, you know, they're just asking for papers and, and some of these people are, are just violations for not filing the proper paperwork, which is ridiculous. In America, there's not a great pathway to citizenship that I get frustrated with because I have in laws that are in that.
B
Pathway. Los.
C
Angeles. Los Angeles. There's lots of people over.
B
There. I, I mean, take that. Right? And, and this is what we talked about. And he, he's. I agree with him on that one. I've seen him roll up in construction sites and it's like, dude, why, why, why are we taking these guys? Yeah, these guys are working their asses off up on roofs and, you.
A
Know. Yeah. Putting in drywall. Thought about the low hanging fruit things, but I mean, I have, I've just never. I didn't know we were there.
C
Yet. It's, it's just I want to see the gang members. I want to see the massive drug dealers or the, the guys that commit murder that are here or the.
B
Ones that came from Afghanistan that.
A
Didn'T. Yeah.
B
Right. Didn't get screened and vetted. It's like, hey, let's make a concerted effort to find all.
A
These. Pedro can hang around for a minute? Yeah, we can.
C
Akbar. And so I was telling, I was saying to Jimmy that, you know, you had this whole end of Biden thing where they hired the 75,000 IRS agents that were going to be coming after us for our tax evasion and everything. That was all propaganda, you know, which. Yeah, probably didn't happen. But I was like, no, we need the 75,000 Border Patrol ICE agents to do the analytics, the, the processing, the background vetting of all those 200,000 Afghans that came over that. What were we saying? Or.
B
20. Yeah, it's 120. It's a. Yeah. 2,000 of them are 100.
A
Terrible. I'll just say this. Anybody looking to get into the ice, Border patrol type style career, that's a very politically driven career. And through actions. Well, yeah, right now, but we get a Democrat in, they're gonna cut everything. And everybody that can be cut will be cut, and it'll downsize. Again, just like the military. So when you get into that profession, you got to make sure you are locked in, sealed and secured. Because if you are some kind of contract or some kind of government employee, but not like if you're gonna.
C
Get cut, get out of it. What? You can get out of it immediately, get trainings, get experience, all that kind of stuff. Get all that for you. That way if you do get cut in the next administration kind of thing, then yeah, at least you've got some resume builders to get your next job, that sort of stuff. But.
A
Yeah. Oh, go.
C
Ahead. No, it's a, a, I don't know, it gets frustrating. I, I kind of look at that and I, I get tired of the low.
A
Hanging. I told my son, take advantage of it. I was like, there's a vacuum in the lawn care space. You're 13 now. Yeah, I'm looking, I can see down our road. I'm like, there's tons of law. It's a. But I'm making a joke. But it's a serious problem. Lawn care. Now there's, it's, they're behind because all of their workers are illegals. We all know that. And now they, they can't. Nobody wants to cut the lawn in Florida in 100 degree heat. Those guys cut it fully dressed, no sweat. I go out there in a tank top, I look like I was in a.
B
Pool. And, and you know, when I was growing up as a kid, I mean like in the church that I was in, I mean we were, you know, the teenagers, the youth group, we were cutting lawns for like, we didn't even get paid. We went out there because that was what God, Jesus wanted us to do. It start with the.
A
Church. Yeah, yeah, start with the church.
B
Yeah. So, so, you know, hey, those of you in the church, that might be a good idea. But look, even Jesus didn't work for.
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Free.
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Yeah.
C
So. But yeah, I mean, my, my best friend Jones, a lawn care company, but he actually employs guys off.
A
Craigslist. But that's still a.
C
Thing.
B
Yeah. You know, it might actually not be a bad idea to go, hey, are you a 16 year old able bodied boy? Get your butt off the video games and come out and cut some.
A
Lawn. I would rephrase the first part of that, but I.
C
Get. Yeah, yeah, you just, you maybe put that to the back end of the.
A
Sentence. Old able bodied boy. I don't.
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Know. Okay, well, come on.
C
Down. A little anti hero.
B
Broadcast. Yeah, I mean, it's like, hey, all right. I mean, I wasn't going into the child molester round. All.
A
Right. My mind wasn't.
C
There. Hopefully the audio is going potato on this.
B
One. But I mean, like, look, dude, like, hey, instead of hiring a bunch of people that might have a questionable status and boys.
C
Get. See the.
B
Wordage. That's not what I.
A
Said. That's what he.
B
Said. But I mean, like, dude, have a summer job.
A
Dude. I told my son. I was like, there. This is the easiest industry to get into because you can do it at 13, and by the time you're 40, you can have a million dollar business that you own. It's lawn care. It's not going anywhere. It's. It's never going.
B
Anywhere. The grass is always going to grow.
A
Here. Yeah. And so I'm like, man, you. I was like. He's like, can I use your lawnmower? I was like, no. I was like, I'll loan you. I'm the bank. I'll loan you some money to get. But you have the first 10 lawns you cut. You're not gonna get any profit.
C
I'll. You'll get a.
A
Little. I'll take probably 70, 80 of your profit to pay the loan. And I was like, you know, you don't even know about interest. I was like, you know, unless you, you know, maybe we can.
B
Work. And by the way, if you start making enough money, you're gonna have to tell uncle.
A
Sam. Yeah, yeah. Because he's like. He's sitting there, like, wanting to make money and, you know, want to do all this. He's not old enough to work. So I'm like, man, go cut lawns. I was like, dude, that person. There's the. Our next door house is being sold. So the. It's in the process. Like, there's nobody living there, and they're having to pay crews to come in and cut it. I'm like, bro, you find the owner of that house, the bank, whoever it is, or the owner, and be like, I'll cut this for half what they charge.
C
You.
A
Totally. Me and my buddies will cut it. They'll be like, okay, all.
C
Right. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that's it. And the problem is, like, I had a. I had a co worker, he had a little lawn care service that he opened, and his problem was, is just is finding good help. So you find good help. You know, one of my. I said, my best friends owns a company, and when one of our guys was having, you know, IA trouble. Issues with the department, and so he was on suspended, unpaid leave. I'm like, yo, go over, hit up My boy, you're an able bodied dude that knows that's intelligent guy. And, and my buddy and Joe's like, bro, he's the been the best employee I've ever.
A
Had.
C
Yeah. And it's like, yeah, sure. Because he works a hundred thousand a year.
A
Job. Guys love mindless.
C
Numbing.
A
Yeah. Work. I love mowing the.
C
Lawn.
A
Yeah. In fact it's funny, my, my son had the idea with Lewis's little.
C
Brother.
A
Yeah. Because we're all neighbors. And they're off. They wanted to sell empanadas at the park. I'm like, I was like, me not coming from a vibe. I was like, no one's gonna buy meat, guys. Like I'm just not gonna, I.
C
Mean unless you look the part, but then you're gonna get bothered by ice all.
A
Day. Yeah. You know they're Gonna, well they're 13 year old. I mean but you have, if you looked apart, you have the little truck behind you. Yeah. You're probably selling some of the best tacos.
C
Ever. But if you're just sitting there with a, with a.
A
Warming. Well, you're all 13 years old. Like, nah, I'll donate somebody, but I'm not gonna eat an.
C
Empanada. I don't know. The empanadas are.
B
Sweating. Yeah. I mean, but lawn care, I mean like, I mean, and I mean, let's face it, Lewis and his, his family looks the.
C
Part. Lewis is actually smarter than.
B
Everybody. I know. But I mean like if we're going off appearances, it's like, oh wait, these, this Hispanic dudes want to cut my lawn. Absolutely. It's like having the, the Vietnamese ladies at the nail.
A
Salon.
C
Yeah. Well, Lewis can work the algorithm on, on.
B
Where? He's over there.
A
Yeah. Lewis comes from an IT family.
B
Actually. Does he.
A
Really? Yeah, it's. It. Is that what you call it?
C
Yes. One wouldn't, one couldn't tell, but affirmative. Yes. The guy. The guys watching the stream are kind of like, I don't know what IT brand he's.
A
Working. That's true. This isn't Lewis's fault. But we'll wrap it up here, guys. Thank you guys so much for joining us. There will be no broadcast on Thursday as that is Christmas Eve. Yeah, that's Christmas Eve. We're not. However, there could be a remote broadcast. Christmas with the boys. It'll at least be me. I just don't know if it's gonna be.
B
Christmas. No, it's Christmas. It's.
A
Christmas. Christmas you want to do on Christmas.
B
Day? No, no, I'm, I'M saying, like, the 25th is. Is Friday. Yeah. And it's Thursday. Yeah. The 25th is Thursday.
A
Yeah. And that's why we're not doing it on Wednesday, because that's Christmas Eve. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, we all want to be with our families, but we will be doing a live broadcast. I will be doing a live. No, no. Nobody spends the holidays alone. Christmas for the boys. I'll do.
B
It. Yeah, I'll be in.
C
There. Well, I can't believe this has been two hours already. I'm looking down, I'm like, oh, 116. We've only done an hour and 16 minutes. As if my phone is on a.
A
Time. This is a good. This is a good time, man. I love the.
C
Show. I love doing this thing blew by.
B
Man. It always.
C
Does. Tell me how I did. Everybody tell. Tell me how I put it in the.
A
Chat. Go follow Justin on Donut Shop.
C
Probably. There's. There's my flag. If you can see it. It's.
A
Not. Go look for the original Tyler anti Hero episode. He did.
C
Man. Find it with that, with us in a hotel room.
A
Together. I was a. I was an able body boy. That's how I put the ad.
C
Out, looking for an able body boy to come on my podcast. But yeah, so you guys, yeah, go over to Donut shop, podcast on YouTube, give it a.
A
Sub. When do you drop.
C
Episodes? Usually on.
A
Tuesdays. Okay. Usually on Tuesdays. And then you go live Sunday.
C
Mornings. Live Sunday mornings. I do a coffee and donuts at 8:30 Eastern. Just kind of me talking to the. Talking about my week. It's a little diary. It's just a. It's a way to kind of juice the algorithm. I'm kind of getting used to the whole live stream thing. I'm trying to work on that. So, yeah, Sunday mornings, doing that. And then once in a while I come over.
A
Here. Yeah. Justin Dustin brings a lot of positivity and good vibes to. To our cynical natured show. So, yeah, I can't let you.
C
Guys eat at my heart too long. You know, when I come here for free gear, I found stuff I usually. Tyler usually throws things at me and says, here, take this, take this, take this.
A
Enjoy. Well, yeah, one of our future sponsors. Goon.
C
Tape. Goon Tape. So I'm gonna put some on my.
B
Gun. Yeah, I got. I got a gun that I can put it.
A
On. Yeah. About eight rolls of Goon Tape I got. Well, they'll be in January, but. All right, guys, we will see you next week. On Monday. But if you want to join us, don't get in trouble with the life. Spend the holidays with your. With your family. Don't come on our show unless you're alone or you're willing to get.
B
Yelled at by your.
A
Wife. Because I'm gonna get yelled at by mine. But she understands. She's actually super supportive. Even though I'm doing a broadcast in the middle of the.
C
Holiday. Thank you.
A
Heather. All right, we'll see you guys Monday or the holiday broadcast.
C
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Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Episode: "IT'S CHRISTMASSSSSS!!" (Ep. 12/22/25)
Date: December 22, 2025
Host(s): Tyler, Jimmy, Justin (from Donut Shop Podcast), K9
Audience: Veterans, first responders, blue-collar Americans
Episode Theme: Camaraderie, accountability, and current events through the lens of veterans, law enforcement, and first responders—special Christmas edition with community updates, candid conversations, and some much-needed humor.
This lively episode brings together the usual crew, plus guest host Justin from Donut Shop Podcast, for a holiday-themed discussion aimed at the veteran and first responder community. The show spotlights brotherhood, self-improvement, honest mistakes in reporting, handling criticism with humility, and the unique bond of service. Major topical discussions range from the meaning of Christmas, military and law enforcement culture, international geopolitics, current events, to candid talk about mental health and community building. Lighthearted banter, accountability, and charitable efforts anchor the show throughout.
Scripture Readings & Christmas Context:
The Christian Faith and Masculinity:
Faith in Popular Culture:
Acknowledgment of Reporting Errors:
Broader Commentary:
Failures and Lessons from School Shootings:
SRO Stereotypes & Needed Change:
Recap of Key NFL Drama: (Steelers vs. Lions ending, DK Metcalf incident)
Quarterback Drama & Careers:
Venezuela, Blockades, and US Response:
Germany & NATO Military Moves:
US Aid to Taiwan & Asian Geopolitics:
Charity of the Week:
Mental Health & Brotherhood:
On Faith as a Lifestyle vs. Insurance:
“Would you rather be a believer and it not happen than not be a believer and it does happen? I don’t agree with that…I don’t think you’re faithful when you’re...just wearing the shirt in case it’s real.” – Tyler (06:20)
Reflections on SROs:
“If I had to pick between the guy that eats ice cream with kids on Facebook versus a guy that just sits at his desk and dreams of killing a school shooter, that’s who I want.” – Tyler (29:36)
Humility in Reporting:
“We hold people to a standard…we can’t not do the same for ourselves.” – Jimmy (18:07)
Community & Mental Health:
“People need you. Committing suicide…there’s just so many people it’s going to affect negatively because they need you.” – Tyler (97:08)
Brotherhood:
“The best part about working here…is that there’s a…like, dude, haven’t really had that since I was in the army.” – Jimmy (101:40)
Comic Relief – Surprise Santa Call
(with banter about air deliveries to Chicago, gun buybacks, and Santa telling Jimmy he needs “to see a therapist”)
– Santa: “Santa loves his children. I received a Christmas list from you, Jimmy… Let me open it real quick…a black leather flogging whip and a bundle of rope! Jimmy, you need to see a therapist.” (73:01–74:53)
Tone: Collegial, candid, at times irreverent; blends camaraderie, vulnerability, and lots of banter.
Language: Original, unfiltered (includes dark/sarcastic humor—be advised).
Format: Fluid transitions between group conversation, news breakdowns, sponsored segments, charity spotlights, and off-the-cuff jokes.
This episode is a microcosm of the Antihero Broadcast’s ethos: a space for frontline professionals and veterans to be real, laugh, support each other, and keep each other honest. Whether dissecting international politics, owning up to mistakes, or reaching out to listeners in crisis, the hosts model accountability, humility, and an abiding commitment to their collective. The sense of family and “we’ve got your back” is palpable—making this more than just a holiday special, but a testament to the quiet heroism in everyday brotherhood.
If you or someone you know is struggling, reach out—to these hosts, to a buddy, or to anyone who’ll listen. You’re not alone.
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