ANTIFA Protesters Get 70 YEARS In PRISON!! (06/25/2026)

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast – Episode Summary

Episode: ANTIFA Protesters Get 70 YEARS In PRISON!!
Date: June 25, 2026
Hosts: Tyler, Mike (with guests Eli & Dominic)
Episode Theme:
A deep-dive into the recent sentencing of Antifa protesters in Texas facing decades-long prison terms, conversations about American justice, policing standards, the January 6th legacy, and cultural developments, all with the irreverent, unfiltered, and blue-collar tone The Antihero Broadcast is known for.

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Main Theme Overview

This episode centers on the aftermath of a violent Antifa-led protest at a Texas ICE facility, the unusually long sentences handed down to protesters (ranging from 30 to 100 years), and comparisons to sentences for January 6th participants. The hosts, all with law enforcement backgrounds, use the event as a springboard to discuss legal standards, the realities of federal court, law enforcement hiring/practice, policing culture, gender standards, fitness, and American cultural issues—punctuated with banter and satirical commentary on news, politics, and the absurdities of modern life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Antifa Sentencing Case

[09:36]–[19:17] – Coverage of the Protest & Sentences

• Event Recap:
  • A July 4, 2025 protest outside a Texas ICE facility turned violent; a police officer was shot (survived). Nine protesters, identified as Antifa members, received sentences between 30–100 years; shooter Benjamin Song was sentenced to 100 years.
• Key Insight:
  • Serious federal charges included attempted murder of an officer, terrorism, and "providing material support to terrorists."
  • The sentences are described as “unusually harsh” and considered a test case for federal crackdowns on dissent (see 10:55).
  • Reference to “new guidance from a presidential declaration last year labeling Antifa a domestic terrorist organization,” though Antifa is described as decentralized ([13:00]).
• Comparison with January 6th:
  • Noted that January 6th rioters received pardons or commutations from President Trump, sparking debate around legal and political double standards ([11:00]).

Quotes:

• "The sentences are extremely harsh... more typical for people who have committed murder or stolen millions of dollars."
  — Guest, Law Professor Paul Butler ([14:52])
• "When the feds are trying you, they believe they're going to win and you're going to do a lot of time."
  — Tyler ([17:28])
• "If you're Antifa, you'd better make sure you're not in a Trump-appointed judge district... this was clearly a Republican-appointed judge."
  — Mike ([19:21])

2. The Justice System: Federal vs. State

[19:20]–[23:30] – Reality of Federal Court

• Federal Court is “No Circus”: The hosts reflect on the order, power, and finality of federal court, contrasting it with state courts which they describe as “a circus.”
• Standards and Power:
  • Judges "control everything;" trials are fast and unforgiving. Federal sentences are typically much longer, and chances of acquittal are minimal.
• Miranda & Policing Anecdotes:
  • Discussion on legal technicalities (“Miranda” rights), recalling how some defense lawyers lack basic competence, and explaining for lay listeners how and when Miranda rights apply.

Quote:

• "It's like being in a police department, then going into the military... federal court is like basic training.”
  — Mike ([20:29])

3. Police/Protester Double Standards & Political Backlash

[26:07]–[29:41] – The Chilling Effect

• Antifa is "quiet lately," compared to fallout and chilling effect post-January 6th.
• Discussion of federal versus local power in protest crackdowns, the role of judge appointments (Republican vs. Democrat), varying responses in different states (e.g., Texas vs. Seattle).
• No Escape From Consequences:
  • The feds intervened because the protest targeted a federal (ICE) facility and involved use of weapons against police.

Quote:

• “You go to Seattle, this ain't happening. You could probably kill a cop and they're not gonna do anything...”
  — Mike ([27:57])

4. Law Enforcement & Policing Culture

[38:43]–[75:00] – Policing Standards, Gender, Fitness, & Training

a. Consequences and Degradation of Standards

• Observations on the lack of consequences in American society and the “broken windows” theory. Contrast with harsh penalties for similar incidents abroad (Bahamas example – [45:39]).
• Argument that returning to consistent, serious consequences would potentially curb lawlessness.

Quote:

• "People have never faced consequences... there should be consequence."
  — Mike ([46:41])

b. Use of Force, Deadly Force, and Training

• Several recent police incident videos are discussed and analyzed (see [62:09]–[88:08]):
  • The importance of not letting suspects return to vehicles during stops.
  • Appropriate escalation of force; hesitation and decision windows under pressure.
  • Critique of current training standards, over-reliance on less-lethal “scripted” escalations that may not match real threat situations.
  • Hosts emphasize ability to physically subdue suspects as basic professional requirement.

Quotes:

• "If you're going to ask anybody anything... you need to read them the Miranda rights." — Tyler ([23:12])
• "No amount of gear or jiu-jitsu... is ever going to change the fact we have on the streets... inherent males who can't do the job."
  — Dominic ([75:00])

c. Physical Standards and Gender in Policing

• Repeatedly question the lowering of standards to facilitate “diversity and inclusion” (DEI, 30 by 30 initiative).
• Argue that standards have dropped—not that “more women are passing,” but that “everyone now gets in.”
• Satirical but pointed stance that “merit” not “gender quotas,” should determine hiring; fitness and presence, not gender, guarantee officer safety and public respect.

Quotes:

• “You need to take your argument to the other side... women do not belong working the roads with men. Almost every female... was screwing somebody else, and lives got ruined.”
  — Dominic ([78:43])
• “Standards are important. I'm pro merit, anti DEI, anti 30 by 30...”
  — Mike ([79:36])
• “Good de-escalation is not being 5'1" 110, not being 5'11" 130 pounds on Ozempic... Walk up a well-shaped human being in good shape...”
  — Mike ([101:47])

5. News, Pop Culture & Satirical Sidebars

[30:31]–[36:36] – Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce, Demonic Spells, and the Broadcast's Own Community

• Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Wedding:
  • Hosts mock-fan over the rumored Swift/Kelce wedding at Madison Square Garden and poke fun at celebrity culture ([31:22]).
• Demonic Spells Discussion:
  • Banter around jokes in the chat about casting spells, with a segue into the show’s “Christian influence” despite not being explicit Christian media ([34:23]).
• Handling Trolls & Internet Culture:
  • Tyler addresses anonymous trolls—he now reaches out directly and never receives a response ([38:43]–[39:06]).

6. Community & Show Culture

Patreon, Discord, and the “Antihero App”

• The hosts repeatedly promote their Patreon, Discord, and especially their own social platform “the antihero app” for community engagement ([03:17]–[04:07]).
• They emphasize their show as “for veterans, first responders, and blue collar Americans” and maintain a rowdy, sarcastic, no-holds-barred tone.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You can act like this, but when the feds are against you... they're gonna crack down on you just like they did on January 6th.”
  — Tyler ([17:28])
• “This is obviously a Republican-appointed judge that's in on board and said, all right, we'll show you.”
  — Mike ([18:40])
• “Good de-escalation is not being 5'1", 110 [lb]... You walk up a well-shaped human being in good shape... you’re immediately de-escalating the situation because people go, I’m not fucking with this dude.”
  — Mike ([101:47])
• “When you lower those standards, it’s not that difficult to raise the ‘elite’ standard level.”
  — Dominic ([93:51])
• “Every shooting that cops get into, you’re going to see one cop revert to his lizard brain... So it’s a common thing among people who shoot. Let’s just put that out there.”
  — Dominic ([89:24])
• [On hiring older officers] “Are you gonna do 30 years in the Florida retirement system? You’re gonna be like 80, 85 years old... now we’re hiring people knowing they’re not going to finish out.”
  — Tyler ([91:00])

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Important Timestamps

• [09:36] – Transition into the Antifa sentencing story.
• [13:00] – Antifa “domestic terrorism” designator under new presidential order.
• [14:52] – Guest legal analysis: "sentences are extremely harsh."
• [17:28] – Tyler on the federal justice system's severity.
• [19:21] – Mike on effect of judge's political appointment.
• [29:41] – Broader commentary on federal intervention and protest consequences.
• [38:43]–[39:11] – Culture of anonymous hate and trolling addressed.
• [45:39]–[46:41] – Enforcement, consequences, and "broken windows" theory in society.
• [62:09]–[88:08] – Policing videos: analysis on use of force, escalation, and training failures.
• [99:07] – Antonio Bandanas provides current police fitness standards for men and women.
• [103:55] – Dominic satirically proposes: "The new thing should be 30 by 30 by 30 – 30% of law enforcement being females by 2030 and an increase in pay for males to 30%."
• [111:53] – Fundraising plug for “Dilks for Sheriff” campaign.

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Tone & Style

The show is brash, sarcastic, blue-collar, and leans heavily on inside-cop humor, “real talk,” and a willingness to offend. Hosts regularly take shots at “woke” culture, bureaucracy, and “unfit” police, but balance this with candid accounts from their policing backgrounds and a sense of camaraderie with the “99%” of regular people.

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Closing & Call to Action

• Big promotions for Counterculture Inc., the Antihero app, and upcoming live episodes.
• Strong self-branding as the show "for the news entertainment for veterans, first responders, and all blue collar Americans."
• Running theme of rebranding and fighting “cancel culture” with their new network.

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Takeaway

This episode offers a no-filter look at the intersection of American protest, policing, politics, and culture: both the justice meted out to Antifa members and the ongoing debates about the soul and standards of American law enforcement. If you appreciate unscripted, combative, and at times intentionally provocative perspectives on the news—especially from a cop’s point-of-view—this episode delivers in spades.

Transcript

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

Yeah, the OG Council is kind of like our. Our board or people that are really, really dedicated to the progression of the show and the dirt or longevity of the show, I should say. And we run things by our panel, we run things by these guys and they give us their honest opinion on whether they think it's a good idea. And if 10 out of 12 people say that, that's. We don't do it because it's retarded. So, yeah, that really helps us out.

[Mike]

Imagine Tyler's Elon Musk, and instead of just flying rockets wherever he wants, he asked Everybody in the 99 cent where should we fly the next rocket? You get some input on where it goes. Tyler's got a little less money than Elon Musk, but he's really cool.

[Tyler]

So I got a little bit more autism too.

[Mike]

I don't know about that. I'll actually give you that one. You might be. You might be. You might win. He might win that war.

[Tyler]

Have you ever seen the video clip of I don't know if it's real, but it's Kanye west and him in a room together and it's like, who put these two guys in a room together if it's not real? It's done really well, but it's hilarious.

[Mike]

He Actually lost his. He lost his trillionaire status already? Yeah, it went to 1.4 or 1.2, and then the SpaceX stock came down and he's. Unfortunately, I think he's only worth like 920 billion now. It came down a little bit, man. So he's. He's struggling.

[Tyler]

That's like me watching our. On all of our platforms, I monitor the follower count. Really. I don't care about how many followers we have, but it's a good indicator of the net positive of the rebrand that we did on all companies. All companies are really branding for the better. But Anti Hero went through a massive rebrand and I watch and sometimes you'll see that 7.3 K. 7. 73.1K followers on Instagram and like, oh, at 0.1. And then sometimes I go to 73K and you're like, damn, we're teetering. That line where one follow and one unfollow matters. But I get it. Did you.

[Mike]

I don't have that problem.

[Tyler]

For some reason, your mic didn't mute during the intro and everybody heard you scream at your dogs.

[Mike]

No way.

[Tyler]

I don't know either. The first time I've ever seen streamyard not mute the mics. And I looked down and I. I heard it and I looked down and your mic wasn't muted. I muted it for you.

[Mike]

I saw where it said,

[Tyler]

they've been

[Mike]

quiet for four and a half hours, they haven't said nothing, and we go live. I left it. And this is the first time because sometimes they'll come in here when it's quiet. I actually left the door open, thinking maybe they'll come in here. There's nobody here. Here. As soon as you hit the button, the feds were at the door.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that. I think sometimes, like, that's a. What do you call that expectation of privacy where you're like, you under. You fully know that Stream Yard mutes your mic during the intro. So it's almost like an expectation, like anything I say. And I saw it wasn't muted, so I muted it real fast in case you were like, I don't want to be here.

[Mike]

No, I live my life honestly. I honestly live my life at this point, especially with the. With the. The election stuff. I live my life as if I have a camera on me 24 hours a day. And I, you know. You know how being a cop, you're, like, conditioned to, for the most part, not say anything. Pretty dumb.

[Tyler]

So that was the hardest part for me. No, I can say whatever I want. Now I have to worry about Mike.

[Mike]

Yeah, but I mean, there's certain things you knew you couldn't say, and you get real close to it, and then you'd be like, well, I can't say that. Yeah, but yeah, I did. I screamed out too. And then literally everything was fine. I left the door open. This is the first day I've left the door open. And probably since we've ever streamed, like, I'll leave it open that way. My one dog likes to go sit right there and look at me. And off they went. And they're not little dogs. They're medium.

[Tyler]

You're just bisexual.

[Mike]

Another medium. According to Jake, 1's 45 and 1's 25. So 1 is medium. I'm trying to talk her in.

[Tyler]

Another one small.

[Mike]

Yeah, 25 is small. I can't help that. It's a female, though. The male's big. The male's big. He looks bigger than. He looks bigger than he is, too.

[Dominic]

Dude.

[Tyler]

Gets a female dog, bro.

[Mike]

And then trying to compensate for the

[Tyler]

lack of love in your life. Did you get the dogs before you were married? Were they your dogs or did you guys get them together?

[Mike]

No, they got those. They're dark kids, right, with dog parents.

[Tyler]

Oh, you're. You're covered under the marriage clause, dude. You can get whatever you want. You could get a. One of the teacup things. You're covered, dude. It's like insurance policy.

[Mike]

Well, it would be opposite, though, because before I met her, she had a 100 pound shepherd and I had like a 40 pound mutt. 30 pound mutt put together.

[Tyler]

I'm.

[Mike]

I'm like, really trying hard. I found a dog that I really want, and she said if it was white. A white. There's a rare white golden doodle so we could get it. And it's in Miramar, which is not far from here. And I'm not losing the war right now. Well, everyone should say JoJo. Mike should be able to get that other dog. His name is Legend

[Tyler]

is already named. Is it?

[Mike]

Well, yeah, what they do is they name them and like, Murphy was Zion. They named them after Parks and so they like, they named the litters.

[Tyler]

But yeah, I really want it.

[Mike]

She won't let me.

[Tyler]

All right, well, let's get into it, man. I didn't tell you about this because I found it kind of late, but it's very interesting. So there was a protest on July 4 last year outside of a. A nice facility during this protest, which we probably didn't cover because it was before we were a news broadcast, so. Or a news entertainment broadcast, whatever the we're called. So. But an officer, a cop was shot in the neck from somebody in the protest. So it was actually taken very seriously. And most of the protesters that are antifa were giving sentences up to like a hundred years in prison. Federally charged, cooperating antifa members got 15 years in prison.

[Eli]

Holy.

[Dominic]

So what we'll do.

[Tyler]

Yeah, what we'll do is we'll watch this video first, we'll probably sum it up better than I could, and then we'll read some of the bullet point for 150 years. The Orlando cornerstone of central Florida media.

[Dominic]

Celebrate this milestone.

[Tyler]

We can mute it. We can mute it. Anti ICE protesters sentenced to decades in prison and latest crackdown on dissent. Dissent. What the that mean? Whatever.

[Mike]

Like disagree.

[Tyler]

Right. Descent into. There's one thing that I want to point out that PBS puts in there. I don't know if it was a typo because it makes no sense whatsoever. It says in two federal courts yesterday, a group of prose protesters received unusually long sentences after the Justice Department accused them of being members of the far left movement Antifa. The sentences range from 30 to 100 years in prison, longer than the harshest sentence handed down to any convicted rioters in the January 6th attack on the US Capitol. So you can already see which way this is leaning. Obviously, it's a left leaning article. All of those people. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I read this now. All of those people have been received pardons from or commutations from President Trump. So the January 6th, quote unquote, protesters or rioters all see pardons or commutations from President Trump. Okay, let's watch this. Might need some sound. That's my bad.

[Eli]

Unusually long sentences after the Justice Department accused them of being members of the far left movement Antifa. The sentences range from 30 to 100 years in prison, longer than the harshest sentence handed down to any of the convicted writers in the January 6th attack on the US Capitol in 2021. All of those people have since received pardons or commutations from President Trump. Our justice correspondent Ali Rogan has more. These nine protesters were arrested after they demonstrated outside a migrant detention facility in Texas last year. During the protest, a police officer was shot. The neck. He survived.

[Tyler]

I'm convinced. I'm gonna do a couple breaks here and there so we don't get, like, taken offline because I don't know if PBS is weird about this, but every time I listen to a news anchor or look at one, I'm like, Holy dude. They'll read anything. Like a news anchor is literally just someone that talks like this and reports the news to you.

[Eli]

Their case is the first to incorporate new guidance from a presidential declaration last year that labels Antifa as a domestic terror terrorist organization.

[Tyler]

Good.

[Eli]

That's despite the fact that Antifa is a decentralized movement, not a single organization, and that there is no federal charge of domestic terrorism under existing U S law.

[Tyler]

So let's say this. Back in 2024 when we tried a concert that was. That's a whole nother thing. But Antifa was threatening to show up. And the intelligence unit from that county I got with and they're like, here's the thing is we, we predict this probability is very, very low because he told me there's, there's no centralized Antifa with branches around the country. They're all independently owned, like, or not owned, like franchises, if you will, that all fall under Antifa label. But there's no core, like no central thing putting out. Almost like the Crips or the Bloods even have a chain of command where they have ethos and all this stuff. Like, not that they follow them anymore. But antifa's never had anything like that. It's all basement dwellers that want to wear a uniform because they've never worn a uniform in their life. So that being said, she is right about that.

[Eli]

To discuss the implications of this sentencing, I'm joined by Georgetown law professor and former federal prosecutor police Paul Butler. Paul, good to see you. Welcome Back to the NewsHour.

[Mike]

It's great to be here.

[Eli]

I'd like to ask first about these decades long sentences that were passed down. The longest was 100 years in prison. Most of the others received sentences of 50 to 70 years. You're familiar with the allegations against these defendants. Are these sentences typical?

[Dominic]

No, they're not.

[Mike]

The sentences are extremely harsh. There are sentences that are more typical for people who have committed murder or stolen millions of dollars. Compare these defendants to two other sets of defendants, one, their co defendants who

[Dominic]

were accused of the same conduct.

[Tyler]

But this is boring as hell. I mean, you guys know what they're. They're going to sit there and try and compare it to. To January 6th. So what's going to happen is a Democratic president is going to get in and one of the first things he's going to do, he's going to pardon them all. But they're gonna have to do some time in prison. There's no way somebody's gonna spend 100 years rotting in prison for Protesting that had nothing. Anybody who had nothing to do with a cop being shot is going to serve that much long that, that much time in prison. Let's see. Stop screen. I'm gonna share. You throw that up, Eli, huh? Yeah. Texas Antifa ICE protesters convicted of terrorism charges sentenced to at least 50 years in prison. A group of Texas protesters convicted of terrorism charges received unusually harsh sentence for at least 50 years on Tuesday in a closely watched case that was widely seen as a test case of the Trump administration's effort to crack down on dissent. Still don't know how that word's being used. After a three week jury trial, the nine activists were all found guilty of a slew of criminal charges in March stemming from a Fourth of July protest at an immigrant detention facility in Texas, south of Fort Worth. The demonstrators arrived late at night with a plan to set off fireworks as part of a noise demonstration to show solidarity with those detained inside. A few of the protesters, spontaneous, broke off from the main group and vandalized cars in the parking lot. A guard shack, slashed the tires on a government van and broke security cameras. So far, that just seems like regular protesting nowadays.

[Mike]

Regular?

[Tyler]

Yeah, regular. When a police officer arrived on the scene and drew his weapon, one of the activists fired an AR15 from the woods, hitting the officer in the shoulder. The officer survived. Benjamin Song, who fired the gun at the police officer, was sentenced to 100 years in prison, rightfully so. Song was convicted of attempted murder of an officer in the United States, as well as a firearm, explosives charges. He was also convicted of riot providing material support to terrorists. He faced anywhere from 20 years to life in prison.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Wow.

[Tyler]

That's the thing they're not telling these people, dude is, here's the thing, man, you can around with the feds all you want. You can bring that down, Eli. You can around with the federal government all you want. Usually it's, it's more conservative people, you know, like anti, anti Covid people being dragged out of their gyms, all this stuff, right? Like the feds are gonna win. But when the feds are against you and you're on the other side, you can't act like this. If they want, they're gonna crack down on you just like they did on January 6th under Biden. They're doing the same thing here. And you know, well, just as well as anybody, all the cases that you did in federal court, when the feds are trying you, that means they believe they're going to win and you're going to do a lot of time.

[Mike]

No, you're not gonna. I, like I said, it's. I lost one case in federal court where the dude. Because there's no possession with intent to distribute. I'm sorry, there's no possession of drugs and feds. So the guy had, we charged him with possession with intent to distribute, large amount of cocaine and he literally took the stand and said that he rented the car and the drugs must have been in the console and a jury bought it. That was the only case I ever lost. And I don't understand. That's what a jury can do. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. That's what. And he fled. It was a fleet of looting. He crashed like everything. And then so otherwise.

[Dominic]

Yes.

[Mike]

So what you're seeing is first of your antifa. You better make sure where you're going to do this. There's Biden, Obama or Clinton appointed federal judges because if there are any of them are appointed by Trump, you're done. Like this is obviously, this is obviously a Republican appointed judge that's in on board and said, all right, we'll show you. And yeah, that's, I mean I've seen guys get less time for killing somebody. So that's one way to set an example though.

[Tyler]

Can we hear ourselves yet? Can you hear me, Mike?

[Mike]

Yep, yep.

[Tyler]

All right. So the audio, I was shaking my head in agreements because I agree.

[Mike]

No, you, look, I had no idea you couldn't hear me. No, you, I couldn't hear you at all. What I was saying was basically so you can here it was if you're antifa, you'd meet antifa. Whatever you say it, you better make sure you're not in a Trump appointed judge district or a, you know, a Republican pointed judge. If you got a Biden judge or an Obama judge, you're okay. But this was clearly a pro, I would imagine a Republican pointed judge and the federal judge has more power than anything in the world. I'm telling you, I've watched, I was on the stand and I had a defense attorney drilling me. And the judge looked up from his computer, he said, you're done, sir, you're done, Mr. He told you could step down mid question. He was like, no. He's like, you've, you've asked enough questions like, no, like, your honor, I'm gonna argue it was over. He said, that's it, you're done. Go down, sit, boom. And that was it. They control everything. There's none of that bickering and arguing and there's no clownery which is crazy

[Tyler]

because I thought, I mean, judges are appointed. Yeah, right. Federal judges are life.

[Mike]

They're good. You can't get rid of them unless they like, break, like kill somebody. So they have all the power. But I'm, I'm. They just don't tolerate, like, the circus that is the state court. It's a circus. And this 19th Judicial Circus, it's a circus. It's just unorganized. When you go to federal court, it's like, it's like, it's like being in a police department and then going into the military. It's like police party. Like, okay, they kind of got some rules here, but nobody's really following them. You walk into federal court, it's like basic training training. You're just like, there's nobody around. It's quiet, there's a judge. It's just serious. And it's good because it gets. Things get done quickly like this.

[Tyler]

Oh, really?

[Mike]

Oh, it's. No, I'm telling you.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're right. I mean, my only experience in federal court was I was a street cop and I did a male theft case. Like eight months later I got called in a federal court for my testimony alone with that one, like, little measly report I did. And then they were like, all right, you're done.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

It was a ghost town in there. Hard to explain. There's not all this retards running around

[Mike]

like, no, no, there's nobody around. I had one where the guy was looking at serious time for a gun violation. And it was the same thing. It was like the defense attorney asked me a question and I was like, polite. They were kind of aggressive. They asked it again, worded differently, and I answered it. They tried again. The judge said, stop it. And he looked at the defensive. If you try to ask the same question again, he's like, you're out of here. And that was like, holy, dude. It was just like, we're not playing, you know. Judge, you ever been in state court where you're. I've been. I've been In a. A 40 minute argument with a defensive.

[Tyler]

That was great. Word.

[Mike]

Yeah. I've been in a 40 minute argument with a defense attorney over what the difference what the and is is Arguing over nothing. Like I said it is and you said, you said the it is. And it's like, well, I'm just inward arguing and the jury sitting there, it is.

[Tyler]

There's going to be in some defense attorneys. I don't know how they're defense attorneys because they're mentally ill. So a lot of people we know that are liberals are mentally ill. Right. Like, you could. You could look at a true hardcore liberal and go, there's something not clicking upstairs. Well, sometimes those people become lawyers somehow. They get hired by people. And I remember being in court, and it. It wasn't a depot, but it felt like a depot. And a deposition is where you just go in and talk, and they want to know what you know about the case to determine if you're going to be needed in trial. And he was like, is it true that you did not read my client? Now, his client was arrested for something where I showed up, and I was like, I have probable cause to place this person under arrest. I didn't even need to talk to him. I think it was domestic violence. Sometimes you go in there and you just. You just hear both stories. You get two out of the three food groups, either a witness statement, a witness, hopefully unbiased physical markings, or. Or in a sworn written statement by the victim. If you got two out of three of those, you could probably make an arrest. And it was just a domestic violence thing, but it was serious because it was his, like, third charge, so he was going for a felony. And they were like, well, you didn't read him his Miranda rights. And I'm like. And I'm like, looking for help. I'm like, am I the one that's got to tell this guy how Miranda works? Like, I didn't ask him any questions. The Miranda. For you guys that aren't cops in there, which. It's. It's an alarming thing that new cops don't even know when they're supposed to read it. If you're going to ask anybody anything about that investigation that can incriminate them, you need to read them the Miranda rights. And for, like, all. All but one charge in Florida, that's just how it goes. And I didn't ask him anything. I just went. The witness told me what happened. The victim gave me a statement. There was markings. I let him talk. You know, on a domestic violence case, you can kind of go like, yo, what happened? But if you want to ask him anything that might incriminate him, you have to read a Miranda. And I barely talk to the guy.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Because he was telling me, like, custody interrogations.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And. And I'm like, I. I used to love that when they.

[Mike]

When they thought that you didn't read. I'd get to the jail and the dude would be like, you didn't meet me. My rights. And I'd Be like, God damn it. I'm like, you're right, dude. I'm like, this whole case is done. I'd walk him in. You should let me go. I'm like, nah, well, I'm just gonna pretend I did. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say I did it. I. Yet, like, we'll see what happens. Like. And yeah, that Miranda is a huge problem for cops. That whole constitution thing is really rough on cops too, man.

[Tyler]

That.

[Mike]

That founding document of our father, that's never changed. Yeah, the one that's like, never. Yeah, they started with like these 10 really important things. And 1 to 2 and 3 and 4. Like, the first four are like, really, you know, the first one, two and three are like, really important. And you're like, you should probably learn.

[Tyler]

Well, I'm sorry, you're right. You're right. It has changed. They're called amendments. And that's because, yes, no matter what you draft at any time, you're gonna have to amend it. And those amendments are solidified as strong as the original document.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And because they realize, oh, this is a freedom based country. But yeah, like, those amendments have been around for what, 200 years?

[Mike]

1, 1, 2, and 1, 2, and 4. You know, 3 is about soldiers and coming three soldiers in your house. But the first one's pretty important. First one's, like, really important. The second one is very important. But the first and the fourth, man, those ones can get you through or get you fired or get you arrested or make all your cases great again.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So antifa. I just. It. There's.

[Mike]

They've been quietly. They've been very quiet lately.

[Tyler]

I would imagine January 6th quieted down many, many, many people on the, on. On the. On the Right. The fact that that happened and these guys were going through what they went through, I mean, I remember people associated with people were getting questioned by the feds that weren't even there.

[Mike]

We're gonna have one on here soon. We're gonna have a January 6th who was arrested on here soon.

[Tyler]

She's really. Oh, that's right.

[Mike]

Yeah. We have a January sixer who got arrested and she's in Florida, but she was out of state for a little while. Should be reaching out here soon to come in studio and do an interview about the whole day.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you better watch it over there, dude. Dunking on Heather.

[Mike]

Oh, they're fighting.

[Tyler]

No, he said she's just raving. She didn't rage bait at all. But Eli can get rage baited pretty easily.

[Mike]

Just make him bench. Bring the Bench into the studio.

[Tyler]

We'll get you up to 135.

[Mike]

Yeah, you gotta get up.

[Tyler]

He's got no mic. He's over here talking. He got a mic. No, don't put the mic on. Yeah, so I don't know. January 6th, Covid really showed how scary it could be to be an American in this country. And I think this case show is house scary. It could be to be on the other side too, man, that you don't just get to go. And I don't really know what about this made the feds take over as opposed to any other. I mean all the other civil unrest the feds were rolling in. Dude, you remember that? Dude, they had border patrol, they had the marshalls, and they had some, maybe another three letter agency in there. No numbers, no names, all messed up doing the feds work and everybody freaked out about that.

[Mike]

Yeah, it, yeah. And again, it's, it's geographical. You go to Seattle, this ain't happening. You could probably kill the cop and they're not gonna do anything to those people.

[Tyler]

But Seattle. But I don't. What I, I guess what I don't understand is like, why like was this in Texas? I read it. I don't even remember. I think it was Texas. Yeah. Why in Texas did the feds take this over?

[Mike]

But in Seattle, it's an ice facility.

[Tyler]

Okay, all right.

[Mike]

Like in Seattle, Seattle, they took over the, the police department. But the feds can step in because everything's a federal crime. So that's where like they could still step in. The feds had like. It's a double edged sword to not to make federal court. Not as zoo or circus. They have to like pick and choose. And it's very serious. And then, you know, everything else goes to state court. The feds take very, very few. In a small place like this, the feds take very, very few cases. And they must be perfect for the feds to take it. Like, perfect. I remember one time back in the crack laws that were created by Obama and, and Biden, where you had 5 and 50. If you had over 50 grams of crack, these dudes would get 25 years. I went to buy 50 grams of crack with it undercover, and he gave them like 48 grams of crack. And he weighed it and he's like, bro, this is short. And it was short of the 50 and he threw in like 5 grams of powder and they flipped out. They're like, it's not 50 grams of crack, it's 48 and powder. And it's like, okay. And they were all pissed off that we spent the money on it and that they, they didn't want to take it. So they're very picky.

[Tyler]

Well, they dished out a lot of justice on this one. Yeah, it just, it's nice to see. It's nice to see it on the other end, I think is I saw this and I was like, oh my God, of course it's not being covered everywhere because if it was, if it was the other leaning way, it would be on every major news network. But I just happened to see this on like the very end of the news articles. So, yeah, there's some other news which I don't know if you saw and I know you saw because you are super fans of at least one of these people. Did you see who's getting married at the Garden?

[Mike]

Madison Square Garden?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

If it's that, I'm not that kind of fan. If it's Taylor Swift.

[Tyler]

Oh yeah, dude, it's Taylor.

[Mike]

That's where she's getting married.

[Tyler]

Signs point to Travis Kelsey Eli. If you could share that to Travis Kelsey. Taylor Swift wedding at Madison Square Garden on July 4th weekend. Can you imagine the amount of money it takes to rent out the Garden on July 4th weekend? Probably on short notice too. You got to think the Garden's probably booked up for years, I believe. What?

[Mike]

Yeah, they're quasi Knicks fans, so I'm sure the championship led to that decision.

[Tyler]

And the fact that she's a elitist billionaire tied to Satan himself in one of the deep state puppets. I think Travis Kelsey is probably just along for the ride. He just seems like a football player

[Mike]

soft, but s a wft soft.

[Tyler]

Chiefs tight end Travis Kelsey and mega stars Taylor Swift apparently will be tying the knot in New York City at Madison Square Garden. The New York Times reposts. Swift has rented the iconic Sports arena for July 2nd through July 4th, bro.

[Mike]

Three days for the report.

[Tyler]

A 100 person gathering is planned for the Garden on July 2nd. July 3rd. Roughly 1, 000 will be there. The complete flex to rent out the garden to have 1000 people there. Yeah, here's the cool thing. You're not the cool thing. The sad thing. The Times also reports that the permit was filed in New York City to close the streets around Madison Square Garden for July 2nd midday to July 4th. Also, several members of the Chiefs have booked hotel rooms in the Marriott marquee in Times Square around July 3, meaning that they're going to have. You can bring that down. They're going to have Taylor Swift wedding watch parties, dude.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. There's gonna be thousands and thousands of the Manhattan people out there. Yeah, you know, it's a shame. He could have had anything and he went with a flat board. Dude, just.

[Tyler]

Why are you talking so much smack about your. Your favorite artist of all time?

[Mike]

I'm gonna be honest with you, okay? Three, two, three months, nothing I've been listening to, like, different music. Just outright turned on Taylor out right now. Matter of fact, today, when me and Peach were running, I was listening to.

[Tyler]

I would hope you wouldn't listen to Taylor Swift next to Peach, dude. He.

[Mike]

No, we were running. I had my headphones in. We were at. Just listening, man. She's out, man. Right? She's out right now. She's on the out. Not feeling it. Her dumbass jumping around at Madison Square Garden like she knows anything about basketball and the sucker.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's what it is, huh? Okay, we got down. I feel like we're in therapy. That's what it is, Michael. That's what it is. Dumbass jumping around like it.

[Mike]

Yeah, like she knows anything about basketball or the Knicks. And he's. Whatever, dude. He turns soft too. He. You know, whatever, whatever. He's marrying a piece of plywood. I'm not interested.

[Tyler]

What's. So please, what is going on in the chats, dude?

[Mike]

Is it going crazy?

[Tyler]

But how did something demonic pop up? Oh, ham smickle. Yeah, we don't want to cast spells.

[Mike]

Yeah, drama with spells. I like spells.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no. Believe it or not, this is a Christian influence podcast or broadcast. Although we're not a Christian label of broadcast, obviously. Clearly, as you can tell, we're Christian influence a hundred percent. And I think somebody was making a joke about casting a spell on. On Kelsey. And that stuff is demonic.

[Mike]

Guys, look, you could just cast a spell that he's happy.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I mean, no, spells is witchcraft. Witchcraft is demonic. You know, he's in there.

[Mike]

What about that one? The one witch man in wizard of Odds? She was really nice. Glenda, which Good witch of the North?

[Tyler]

That's how they get you. They make a fictional good witch. So you're like, oh, entire. An entire generation of people thought there was such thing as good witches. We're getting close there, dude. Because I remember hearing about people that would cast spells on people and ruin their lives. Right? Now, whether you believe in this or not, it is demonic. It is out there. And I was like, man, that's the most up thing to do is without someone's knowledge, cast a spell. A demonic spell on them and ruin their life. That being said, if you're under Christ, if you're. If you're. If. If Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior, you're protected from that 100 he. You can't. You can't have a spell casted on you if you're.

[Mike]

What is it. What is it called when your wife tells you she's going to punch you in the mouth if you keep chewing that loud? Is that a spell or is that. What is that?

[Tyler]

I think that's the. The beloved idea of marriage under Christ. Oh, I think that.

[Mike]

Okay, so that's like. That's like love language.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's actually. You should be. You should be thankful that you have that.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, I don't know anybody that. I don't know who anybody that happens to. I was just. I was wondering if it did happen. And my friend in the gym. My friend in the gym asked me about it,

[Tyler]

but it's a gift from God.

[Dominic]

I thank him.

[Mike]

I thank him every day. Let me. Let me. I, I do. I pray and thank him every day, obviously.

[Tyler]

But yeah, we. We have a lot of videos too. So what happens sometimes throughout the week, we talk about a lot of different topics. We never get to the old school videos that we used to do. We used to break down.

[Mike]

We're popular.

[Tyler]

But I have, I have one if you'd like to just kick it off with it. I know you have some too, but I know you like to play yours like as actual video files.

[Mike]

Like Slater says he. He took. He broke his mirror yesterday. He had to bury it. The.

[Tyler]

Does that mean.

[Mike]

Dude, he buried it like underground.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Hamsicle. You're right. Demonic is what's happening in America. And the reason why. I'm sorry, the reason why I brought up how it up up it is to cast a spell on something anonymously. It's like the culture that we're dealing with right now. The hidden. The no profile pick person behind a handle is not. It's gone past being cowardice. It is now. People acting out their wildest cynical beliefs with no repercussions. And I say that because it's getting very out of hand. It used to be keyboard warrior, right? That's what we would call it. You're a keyboard warrior. You wouldn't say that at a bar to a grown man. Right. It sense gotten to the point where, you know, there's people out there that, you know. I have looked these handles up and through cross examinations and hours worth of work, we find out who they are. And when you message them and call them by their real name and you go, what's all this about? Oddly, you don't get a response back. Here's the thing too, for the more. And I'm talking about people that are accusing me of crazy. I've started just reaching out and going, what are you talking about? Do you want to talk to me about it? And it's dead silence on the other end. But there are people on the lower level that just like to come in and talk and say things like, they call us cowards. And I'm like, well, that's weird. You don't have a profile picture and you have no name in your handle, but you're calling me a coward. So then I hit him with the 1, 2. Why don't you call into the show, tell me how much you hate me?

[Mike]

Yeah, I told a guy. Yeah. I don't ever get nothing.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I invited a guy on Facebook in the messages, nothing back, dude. So, yes, Ham. Ham hs. I'm calling you Ham Sickle. But HS Mickel, that is very, very, very true. Bob Lazar said Cancel Culture made people scared as well. Absolutely.

[Mike]

I think we're. Tonight we're on the other end of that. I think we're the under. Other end of Cancel Culture.

[Tyler]

Tonight, the Counterculture Inc. Network talking about rebranding. It's Thursday night, it's 8 o'. Clock. We're going live, but we're going live in a different way. Now. Me and Jay have been working hard on rebranding everything with counterculture and turning it to its main point. And it's just what you said, Mike. Cancel Culture is over. And we're going to talk about that tonight on and kind of really die deep in the meaning of counterculture. The company, Counterculture Inc. What it stands for, the brand, the merch, the shows, everything is going to be covered tonight at 8. So if you can join us tonight at 8 on the counterculture Inc. Network and we'll talk about it there. But Mike, you're absolutely right. It is over. And you can do things like,

[Eli]

are

[Mike]

you gonna start this? Are you gonna start the show and tell everybody you haven't been very.

[Tyler]

Don't have to worry about breaking down videos of Carnival Cruise Lines anymore. Go ahead and share that video, Eli. So let's just talk about it. This happened. It's a video on the Internet. We don't have to be nasty, distasteful, but we do got to talk about it. This was a massive brawl. Ropes on Carnival Cruise customs line, 16 people banned. Let's check it out, guys. But first off, right off the bat, dudes punching women in the face again. Me and my wife are more mature now, and I've never been in a situation where my wife gets into a brawl. That being said, my wife had her younger years, and she knows how to fight. If it was a sanctioned issue between my wife and someone else, until I determine my wife's safety, is that I'm not gonna go punch abroad in the face. If it's like, tyler, I got this. Hold my purse. I'll just be making sure no cheap blows coming. I'll be making sure no dude comes in. And I'm making sure once it's done, it's over with. It's over with and nobody gets out of hand. But if you look at this, a man comes in and right hooks a woman right off the rip. So those are the type of people we're dealing with.

[Mike]

Watch out, watch out, watch out, watch

[Tyler]

out, watch out, watch out.

[Mike]

I need my. I need my shoes. Let me get my shoes.

[Tyler]

That looks like a child. What are your thoughts?

[Mike]

Well, that. That's a post cruise. That's post cruise, too. That's. That's post cruise, too. That's real. That's real depressing. That's after the cruise is over. Or you. You're sick of it, you want to get back to your car and then you get that. I mean,

[Tyler]

let's break it down as if nothing mattered, and we're just breaking down an incident involving 16 people fist fighting.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, it can happen first off, at the cop. I'm not doing. I'm getting everybody out of there, and I'm like, everybody go home.

[Tyler]

I'm letting him at some point.

[Mike]

That's one of those gray areas, right? That's like. Like, almost like Poirier got away with almost enough. At the airport. It's like an airport, right? There's airport rules. You can drink at 3am at the airport. You can drink at 7am at the airport, right? There's different places where the different rules. It's a cruise, it's post cruise. It's in this customs area. It's like, keep the peace. Get everybody out of there. Like, I don't know it.

[Tyler]

If you look closely. If you look closely here, in a couple seconds, a man after it kind of breaks up a little bit. Before the second round starts, a man grabs one of those poles that are laying down right there on the floor. They have a very, very, very heavy, heavy base. Right? That's what? And the pole sticks up, actually has the. The tape you pull. It's not tape. It's like. What would you call, like seatbelt, cloth. And you hook it to the next pole. If you've ever worked anywhere with a job, most likely nylon. So he picks. There's a point where a man picks up the pole to use it as a weapon. If I was a cop there and I saw it, that would be my focus so far. Everyone involved seems to be a mutual combatant. There's no victims here. Not even. Not even making a joke at face value. There's no victims. Homeboy decides to grab a pole.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And walk around. And that, to me, is where you'd catch the taser Right then and there. No, no, no. Drop it.

[Dominic]

No.

[Tyler]

Nothing. I see it. I hit him with a taser. Hey, dude, it's a fist fight, melee brawl out here. This guy wasn't picking up the pole to move it around. He was picking up the pole to use it as a weapon.

[Mike]

He wasn't helping.

[Tyler]

No, unfortunately, no. Mike, Mike, let's talk real. No. And not about that. Not about what's really going on in America. But that guy could have been shot.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Based on the circumstances you can articulate, he is about to smash somebody in the head with a very, very, very heavy pole. He could have been shot. Would I have shot him? Probably not, because there's like a. No real victim there. But at the end of the day, if you have an unexperienced cop with two months on the road that just went through all the use of force trainings, when you can, he might pull out his gun and shoot that dude. And he's. Here's.

[Mike]

Yeah, here's the problem. I'm going to give you the problem. We don't have consequences in the United States. We've lost consequences. Right. And it goes back to the very simple broken window theory. I read a story. If I know we were going cruise ships, I would have saved it. I read a story this morning where a similar brawl broke out in the Bahamas at the cruise port going back into if when you get off in the Bahamas, Nassau actually redid it. Very nice. There's a nice port you walk through now. Used to be an old straw market. Everybody tried to sell you cocaine. Now you got to go down the street a little bit before they start trying to sell you cocaine. But it's nice. They redid the whole thing. Six people got in a brawl. They broke two windows, and two or three police officers got struck. They arrested Them, right? These are Americans, they hold them and they have fines from like $25,000 down to like a thousand dollars. And they're not going home till it's paid. So consequences, right? You're more, less likely to do that stuff where there's consequences.

[Tyler]

The.

[Mike]

Every cop that got hit, I got some weird Bahama law. If you injure a cop, you have to pay that cop. But said like criminal mischief and, and property damage $10,000. Then it said officer injury, 2500 dollars. So there's consequences.

[Tyler]

You.

[Mike]

You go do that other places and you face real consequences. And I think that is the problem. Part of the problem is a lot of people have never faced consequences. And you know what is a cruise? It's a family getaway. It's a vacation. It's supposed to be upbeat. It's supposed to be a good time. And when you disrupt something this large, there should be consequence. So I originally said, yeah, I get it. Like the joking Mike says, there's no report, get rid of everybody. But if we stop doing that and everyone went to jail, which is not a bad idea, regardless of outside circumstances, is if you're breathing, you're human, and you break the law and you're doing something you shouldn't do and you have consequences. Like maybe people would stop. If we played that same video and said everybody in that fight got six months in the county jail and a five thousand dollar fine for disrupting a customs kiosk. I bet people will go, this ain't the place to fight. Like, maybe I shouldn't do that here.

[Tyler]

No, it's like you said, the fed. It's a. The feds could take that over.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's a, That's a. It's a national. International. That's an international checkpoint coming back in the United States.

[Tyler]

If the federal government, like, listen, dude, these, these carnival cruise ship fights, all jokes aside, are getting out of hand. Like, we don't. We don't. Let's say we're the feds. We don't want to make it a race thing. We don't want to make it a joke. We. But these gigantic brawls, no matter who's involved, need to stop. Implement what you just said. You're on video punching somebody. Look, I mean, you got to do a year in prison for the, I guess for the feds to speak you up. They're not gonna put you in county jail, but.

[Mike]

No, no, but some type of consequences. Yeah, some type of real consequences. You've disrupted an international checkpoint. So it's just it's yes.

[Tyler]

Boom. Create a law. I don't know. Create something.

[Mike]

I'm sure there is one. There's got to be one. Unlawful assembly.

[Tyler]

Resisting without resisting. Stto8234 said Tennessee just passed a law allowing deadly force to defend property in some instances is what's yalls take tier one responses only. I love that that's America. There's parts of me that's a realist and parts of me that is cynical at 40 years old. Especially when you have kids.

[Dominic]

Man.

[Tyler]

Kids do dumb. Would you want, would you want the police to knock on your door and say your child was shot for committing a property crime in. And they're, you know. No, because I just like black women on tv. Sorry, I don't, I don't want. My child didn't deserve to get shot over a property crime even though he was doing something wrong. Now it's a property crime. So that sounds crazy because lots of children and adolescents in our country get shot because they do some stupid. That's really heinous and, and bad and the police have to shoot them. I'm not talking about that. However cynical person in me thinks the property. Hey, it's my property. Don't. Don't break it. I'll shoot you.

[Mike]

I mean there's an argument that, you know, make America great. America was never great. There was a time and I'm not again, this is, this is general because there was a time when like I, I completely disagree with slavery. Let me make that very clear. There was a time when America.

[Tyler]

There was a time he did.

[Mike]

No, no. There's a time when America did things that were. That was bad. Like I don't think that was. I don't think it was good. I don't think I, I think it was very inhumane. And I'm not going to argue who broug here and who sold who. I'm just telling you that I don't, I don't agree with that. Like humans shouldn't suffer that way. But go back to take that out of it and go back to older times in, in places you, you didn't. If you did something like that, you were probably publicly beat eye, eye for an eye, hand for hand. There was times when those things had real consequences. Now they have to be the right consequences. And you can't over punish. You can't bring corruption and all that in. That's the other problem with America and the people that are so corrupt that are in charge of things. But overall that's a very interesting Subject. Because if you go back to primal times and you're protecting your village or your, your, your food, like Ryan talks about way back and the Indians, that's your life. So, yeah, we have a car, we have car insurance. Somebody steals your car, you're in your driveway, they're in, rooting through your car. Do you go out and blast them?

[Tyler]

Them?

[Mike]

Well, I guess the answer is no, right? But then, then you go back to the primal existence of America or any other Indians before Americans, wherever, when we were very basic. If you have a, a lamb and you a cow and you just killed it, and that's your food for your village, and you're going to feed them and the, the, the village is hinging on that animal to feed everyone, and somebody comes to try to take just your food, you'd kill them, right? You'd be like, hey, you can't have this. This is ours. We have to survive. So because of technology and the fact that you can go buy another phone, you can go buy another set of glasses, you can go buy another car, you have insurance, has created the opportunity for people to go, well, man, let that guy take all your stuff. You can just get new stuff.

[Tyler]

But if you got away, there's a guarantee that justice through the court system and through the law enforcement process. But we're not seeing anybody held accountable anymore. So we're seeing a generation of people that are like, my car got. My car is getting broken into, or somebody's breaking my business windows in a riot and no one's going to do anything about. This still is a property. Yes. And I agree with you pretty much.

[Mike]

How about this? How about this? You walk out to your, you walk out your door tonight and there's somebody rooting through your car. And you know your guns in your console, do you shoot them? They could become, I mean, Florida. You're going to be pretty, almost covered anyway. It's on the fence, but

[Tyler]

you know,

[Mike]

like, hey, he's rooting through my glove box. I'm looking at him, he's going through the console. My nine millimeters in there. It was locked. They broke the window. I got my AR out of the closet. I'm out standing here. Get on the ground. And, and they're reaching. You're coming out of your car, you don't present a gun. So like, think about that. Like, that's obviously a very specific situation. But you know, you could stole a horse a couple 100 some years ago. You got hung, dude. Like, there was no. You didn't get away with that stuff.

[Tyler]

So we're.

[Eli]

Hold on.

[Tyler]

We're being accused of comment deleting.

[Mike]

No way.

[Tyler]

Did you delete any comments

[Mike]

from Streamyard? There's no way to delete a comment from Stream yard. Oh yeah, you can.

[Tyler]

Who's sickle right there?

[Mike]

HSM Sickle. YouTube might be removing them, bro. Like you gotta. You gotta. YouTube controls.

[Tyler]

I'm calling you H. H.S. mickle. So you erased my comment because I defending myself against people here beefing with me. It's all good. I see it.

[Mike]

We didn't race YouTube, delete stuff. So if you said something silly. We don't delete comments. We believe in the constitution.

[Tyler]

Oh, we. We didn't delete anything. I. I'll delete comments if they're on me about lies and I'll 100 delete it. But you can come in here and say Tyler's a retail most 99 of the comments at me, I leave up. I leave up. And so I'm definitely not going to delete a comment where other people are getting roasted in the chat at all. I've never. Why would I care? These guys, people that come in the comment section. No, it's a roast fest, dude. That's why they're commenting. So HS Mickle.

[Mike]

Send it again.

[Tyler]

Yeah, send it again. That's YouTube, not the anti hero guy. See, see, this one is up. Tyler is a. Where's Brent? I think they're trying to prove that it. I don't know what. I feel like I'm wasting too much time.

[Mike]

Hit the break.

[Tyler]

Hit the break.

[Mike]

Because we got Dom coming on after, so they can. He can argue. We didn't delete anything.

[Tyler]

All right. No, guys, I didn't. Honestly, I didn't say nothing offensive. Actually. It's been done before, but it's okay. Okay. Yeah, we don't. I would tell you right now straight to your face, but you wouldn't be seen anyways because if I delete your comment, that means you're also gone and that I wouldn't do that. So anyways, it's time for a break. We'll be right back after this commercial break.

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[Tyler]

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[Tyler]

That blue kind.

[Mike]

I like the apple a bit. I'm a sour guy.

[Tyler]

Oh, Dominic's in studio. Let's go ahead and bring him on.

[Dominic]

I'm in rehab.

[Mike]

Did you see how many people that comment pissed off?

[Dominic]

Well, I appreciate those who are like defensive, but you think by now if they look at the content they're going, oh, it's, it's Mike. It's okay.

[Mike]

Yeah, they, I got, I, Dom posted a video like yesterday. It was in the room like that. And I said, dom looks like he's broadcasting from rehab. And, and his followers came at me, dude, they got all over me. I put three, I put three laughing emojis and like you're the only one that thinks you're funny. And that just. They ate me up, dude.

[Dominic]

Ridiculous.

[Tyler]

That's the Internet, baby. I love it. So how's that? How's. How's Cali? You've been there for what, a couple days now?

[Dominic]

Yeah, I've been here for a week. And it's like, I'm so, I'm so de stressed. I'm already down £4 because it's like I got no Chicago stress out here. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, you got me, dude. I tried it. I put up. I was, I'm working out out here and I'm not. I, I made a conscious effort. Okay. I want to do more cardio when I'm out here. Less weightlifting. So I'm like, I will go and do a circuit of push ups, pull ups and sprints. And I've got a pool and to access and that the bike with the fan on it, which is unbelievable. It now I can bench £335. I cannot do a push up to save my life. The joint pain is insane. I talked to Anthony from Hero Hero

[Mike]

It Out Industries and I. Hero, Hero. Heroic Industry. Heroic Industry.

[Dominic]

I talked to him about it. He sent me some.

[Mike]

He doesn't, I'm like, he doesn't assault women. I forgot. My bad. That's a good point.

[Dominic]

Or lie about online. Yeah. So it's like I'm working on getting body weighted movements and I'm like, I tried to do a dip the other day and I'm like, man, I used to do dips with 75 pound dumbbells through my legs, dude. I had electric shock up here. I'm like, I can't even do anything. So it's. It blows me away. So I did work with Anthony from Heroic Industries.

[Mike]

I, I did dips. I worked out peach today. We did back and I hadn't done dips in a while either. And they were difficult. But I, I have, I have. I have to admit, I'm cheating. I actually paid the coach in the gym, who is a internationally known, like, coach for powerlifting, and he's got me on a program. And I think I'm gonna get to 405 in like a month, month and a half. It's going up fast.

[Dominic]

How's that cheating?

[Mike]

I'm just. Oh, because I hired somebody. I'm joking. Like, I actually paid somebody because. No, I know. I, I, you know, my foot placement was important. The scapular retraction, getting the shoulders back and some of the things. I never really paid much attention to that.

[Dominic]

For you, for you to bench what you're benching with no setup. You go under the bar with no setup. You don't pull your scapula back. You don't.

[Tyler]

I don't.

[Dominic]

I don't see you bending the bar in. You have no foot drive. So. Yeah, you with your.

[Mike]

No, I've, I've. I can send you of the videos from the I bench on Tuesdays and Saturdays now. And now,

[Dominic]

I mean, clearly the answer is. I'll have to start blasting Trend.

[Tyler]

There you go, Mike, you gotta. You have those videos ready to go?

[Mike]

Mine? Yeah, let's go. Probably seen these. There's two that have been floating around the Internet. This one is one of the more popular ones today. Let's roll. This. This is a traffic stop. That's why you on the side of the road.

[Tyler]

That dog at the be

[Dominic]

the K9 in the back seat.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

Whoa.

[Tyler]

A little bit of extra mod. He was like, you shot me.

[Eli]

Holy.

[Tyler]

That was intense.

[Mike]

Yeah, that was intense. So that was, that was. That was a AR pistol that he shot him with. So the first thing you learn from that is you never want to let anybody get back to the car. And he was going in the back seat, not the front seat. That should be your telltale sign. The other side was. I mean, obviously, I'm not gonna.

[Tyler]

On.

[Mike]

I don't want to on anybody that gets shot, but you had two men, couldn't control one man. That's always a problem. But when they start getting to the. For anybody watching. And this came out of my wife's mouth first, so I'm gonna give her credit. Credit. But when you see somebody getting back to their car, that's a good time to go take cover and not try to one get in front of the car to get in the car with them. And if they're going into the back seat of the car, that's probably your Best indication that there's something in the back seat that's going to harm you. They're not just going in there to hide from you. So unfortunately, fortunately, the officers live. The other guy got shot a lot, as Grady Judd would unapologetically say that Dominic doesn't like. But that was a lot of rounds that went in. But that's how fast it can happen.

[Dominic]

Slothful shoot. No problem.

[Mike]

No, no. It's a good shoe. There's nothing. There's no.

[Tyler]

Don't.

[Mike]

Wait.

[Tyler]

Don't loads canine. I could be wrong. Don't most canines have a switch to let the dog out?

[Mike]

Yeah, but, like, maybe it was a

[Tyler]

drug dog, but might not have been a bite dog. I have no idea.

[Mike]

That in the traffic, what if the dog's door opens on the other side? What if it's a drug. The driver's side door, you know?

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's a good point, dude. That's a great point.

[Mike]

And then you have the traffic to worry about. But, yeah, he took an AR round. I think it slipped his vest right there, hit him in the chest. And that's how fast. How many.

[Dominic]

How many could do what Joe said, though, where it's like. Because every one of us, he said, disengage. No, that's what I'm saying. Right. But how many can do. If that's what she's saying, disengage and go right to your firearm.

[Tyler]

Great.

[Dominic]

But all of us are like, ooh, flame. I'm a moth. We would still. We still go right at it. That's. That's the half training habit to break. Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. Well, yeah, like, she made a very good point yesterday. There was a video. There's an unfortunate video in Jacksonville. They smoked another dude, Poor kid, young kid with a gun in his waistband. Completely justified. And I should have grabbed that one. Send it to me. She's watching. I can play that one, too. The Jacksonville. Let's skip that one, then have her send me that one. And then we'll. We'll watch this next one. This next one's a little longer. This is a stabbing call. Roll it.

[Tyler]

Me?

[Mike]

Oh, no, hold on. Well, Eli rolled the last one before I could think.

[Tyler]

I. I don't see it anywhere.

[Mike]

I don't know. It's not popping in.

[Dominic]

Man, this new producer is working out great.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I can't get it to load like this.

[Tyler]

He's like, I don't know what to do.

[Mike]

It's not. It won't load.

[Dominic]

This guy deserves Howard Stern tech money. Yeah.

[Mike]

You got you guys talk?

[Tyler]

Well, I mean that. I was just curious about that last video we watched. Are we talking disengage because we failed at the step one? Is that kind of what we're talking about? Like, hey, we failed to get this guy, so the next step, like, we fail.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Right.

[Tyler]

We failed a task, but we can't, we can't sit there and zone in on the fact that we failed at this task. It's like, anything, let it go and focus on what's going on now. Like it's in football. Anything, let it go. We'll talk about it later. So the best step after you failed to get him on the ground and detained is to break away knowing that he's getting. Waiting in the car for something. Is that what you're saying?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

I mean, that requires some serious training and discipline.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Yeah. To be able to recognize in real time, I failed this. Now, the best course of action for the long picture in this stop is to back off and draw your guns. But I mean, if you're waiting for him to pull, if you're waiting, if you, if you're backing off, like he's gonna pull firearm out, then you gotta wait for him to point it at you.

[Eli]

No.

[Dominic]

Once he gets it. But you're. You're covering a ton of good issues, right? Because all of a sudden able to. You have to be able to articulate the threat. Well, why did you shoot him? He was just going to his car, into his door. So. Yeah, that, that is, that's that window. That window gets like razor thin for you to make a decision.

[Tyler]

It does. Remember in Orlando, Orlando PD smoked a guy last year, the year before, he was going in his center console and they kept saying, don't reach, don't reach. And they lit him up. He was going to get weed and he died. And they were cleared. And everybody was like. I mean, I remember getting roasted when we, when we broke down the video. I don't. I think it was like night shift or something. And I was like, I mean, to shoot somebody without seeing a gun, and everyone's like,

[Dominic]

no, that's. That is exactly right. I, I talked about that in the Aurora, Colorado shooting where they had the two Aurora, Colorado shot, two on our men. And one of them is a guy who apparently throws away a gun. And the cop punches him, walks in the street and then lights him up two times. And the guy is just standing there and then goes up for the headshot. The Mozambique drill, right. And I kept asking, where's the threat? And every one of Them the comments actually kept saying he kept coming, like he kept moving forward. So again, this is, this is the biggest problem with law enforcement in that Orlando video, sadly. How did we go from. You have to be able to articulate a threat, meaning he reached for the council is not a threat. He reached for the center council. And I saw, I observed what appeared to be a black metallic object in the glove box he was reaching for. That is the articulable threats, not just the action of reaching. So I don't know how this little law has gotten so just like you could. Well, the guy was breathing and you could shoot him today. But back in my day, which wasn't that long ago, you had been. You had better been able to articulate to the nth degree of what you observed. Otherwise you were.

[Tyler]

Where, where were you, Dominic? One night shift. Oh, you weren't there because I could have used you, but we were taught we were. There's a guy on an, on an underpass running from the cops. He had a book bag on. And he kept reaching in the bag and the cop zipped him up. And I remember going like, I. I don't think I would shoot someone that was reaching in a bag unless. And dude, I mean, Mike JoJo Peach, everybody was like, oh, you retard.

[Mike]

Or you gotta watch it. Because he had a, he had a gun. I remember. So we gotta, we gotta skip to that part. When he finally.

[Dominic]

If the knowledge is there, though, if, if the cop could say I had not like we are. Our intel stated he would be on the bridge at that time. He's known to carry a handgun in his backpack. That's a different story. But it's just like the whole law where you could chase somebody that just sprints away from you. It's like, why, what if they're. Oh, here's a cop. Oh, that reminds me, I gotta go for my midnight jog. So, yeah, I'm. I'm not willing to take that risk.

[Mike]

I have to back out because I can't load anything. I'll be right back.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, I'm the same way, dude. As far as there's. There's so many things, right? Living with yourself. The biggest one, when you shot somebody. But, you know, they. That's part of the job. You have to get over that. But the second the court process, you really want to be all the people sitting there like, oh, I'd smoke them. I'd smoke them. You want to be the one where everybody turns on you and goes, well, you shouldn't have done it.

[Dominic]

Like my, my former chief was the head of Lake County Major Crimes Task Force, which was the body that did investigations on the police shooting. So if you shot anybody in Lake County, Lake County Major Crimes team and they did the investigation. Everyone who worked on my department, we always used to say, if I'm ever faced with a pistol, I'm going to take a round of the chest first. Because we did not trust our chief to get into a lawful shooting and be, and be backed by him. So it's like the cops are. So when it comes to this, I, but I will never understand the whole. Somebody was walking towards me with my fist clenched and I could shoot him. Somebody was reaching for what? Well, they, they were just reaching and I could shoot him. That girl, that girl in Canada who just lit that, that guy up. That sucks. Because that was a clear knee jerk reaction. That was sympathetic motor functions and she just saw a massive shot. How is she going to be able to articulate it? Well, officer, what was the reasonable articulation? What did you observe? I saw somebody come up on me. What did you observe? She can't say. I observed an object in his hands and I know could have been an X, Y and Z. So the observation factor is gone in this job.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. And just like I said, play with fire, dude all day long. You want to be the guy that shoots an unarmed person and go through that scrutiny for $80,000 a year, be my guest, dude. Reason why I'm not in it anymore. And I knew that. I knew that was starting to affect the job I was doing. And I remember thinking, thinking like, I just, I don't want to do a justified shooting to my standards, to the policy standards, to what society used to call the standard. But now with the district attorneys and the liberal left, I'm going to be cast out to the wolves on my own. And I didn't think it was worth it.

[Dominic]

Standards, Such a word that just doesn't apply anymore. I, I didn't see the video that well on the, on the car one, but I have to wonder again too, if those guys were better trained two on one. I mean, yeah, I worked for a small agency, but my God, there was never an instance where we needed more than two of us to take somebody into custody. Maybe I was just spoiled or maybe I worked with real men, but maybe that's just the time where we're at now where these guys cannot do the job.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And then it's like you start, you, you say that or we say that and we make that statement. And it's, it's like we're the bad guys for making that statement. Like I can't understand why or how anybody watches a video like that and sees the struggle that we're dealing with. And we have all these resources, combatives and all these companies that train different things. I'm not going to marry one of them. But there's so much training available and then there's the fitness side. Like there's still a pushback for physical fitness and what everyone is doing these days. And I don't care how many feelings I hurt when I say this, everyone is on Ozempic or some type of drug that is shrink. I saw a picture of a guy that I worked with for most of my career. He looks like an alien now because his. He is shrunk. Yeah, a lot of them victims.

[Tyler]

I've heard you, you say this every time, but I've never. Okay, I like finish.

[Mike]

No men. There are men taking the men, a lot of them and they start to look like an alien. You can see their shoulder bones and they're square. They look like spongebob. And then they have these big heads and it's like. That is the epitome of what is going on throughout law enforcement. They are shortcuts. No hard work. It's easy, right? You don't eat. You just didn't. You don't eat. So you're starving and you lose weight because your body tells you you're not hungry. And instead of like hard work, fitness training, grinding on the mat, all those things that you should be doing have been exchanged with. Take that. And then there's the steroid argument or the TRT argument where everybody says, oh, you're, you're cheating. No, I got to go to the gym and work my ass off. It just helps me recover some. It helps me. It helps. But that I'm old and my body doesn't make it anymore. So it's that whole combination. We've lost hard work. Because if you're not willing to do the hard work to stay physically fit, are you going to go to the gym and you're not going to go to the gym. Are you going to train a two man takedown how to, how to hold somebody down, how to get somebody in custody?

[Eli]

Better.

[Mike]

No, you're not. This is what we're seeing all over law enforcement.

[Dominic]

I don't know. My 90% of the department I came from were. Well, we had maybe six or seven marines and we had guys who just lifted weights and back When I went to the academy, it was PPCT was the big thing out in Illinois, which was pressure point and control tactics. And everybody did the job just great. I have to wonder if it's like, you see the studies of males today have less testosterone than men, you know, 30 years ago. I have to wonder if it's just that and a mental fortitude. I think we. The bottom line, no amount of gear or jiu jitsu is ever going to change the fact we have on the streets. We do. They are, they are, they are inherent male who can't do the job. And then throwing in these females and the DEI brass. It's. It's a show out there.

[Mike]

Yeah. And that's. It's it. I feel like a. For saying. It's like almost like. What do you mean mean? You're gonna, you're gonna make it feel

[Dominic]

like a moron for saying it. You should be screaming it louder.

[Tyler]

Wait, well, I am. Before you play your video, can I play like one short clip that has to what we're talking about.

[Mike]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Dominic]

Oh, everybody.

[Tyler]

This has made me laugh because I don't know what I would do if

[Mike]

it was that Male cop and chick shouldn't be cops.

[Dominic]

You guys would both have to team up on me and there's nothing you could possibly, possibly do to put me on the ground.

[Tyler]

This guy would have to do it.

[Mike]

I'd have to do what?

[Dominic]

Put me on the ground. If you tried to arrest me, these two couldn't do it. I wouldn't resist. But if it came down to a

[Mike]

fist fight, women shouldn't be.

[Tyler]

I would be laughing. I would be like, never. This guy's a Poindexter though. And being all serious.

[Mike]

What's Canada?

[Tyler]

Oh, that's Canada.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

Why you trying to take my picture? Well, you took my video of mine

[Tyler]

the whole time with my name in my back.

[Eli]

Servant.

[Tyler]

You won't even give me your name.

[Dominic]

My buddy guy been wrong. Why won't you

[Tyler]

Wait, so is that a thing in Canada, they try to pressure people into giving their names. You can't do that in the States.

[Dominic]

I will have made it. The day that I start seeing people go, hey, yeah, Dominic Gizo says women shouldn't be cops in their videos. That. That's how you know I'll have made it.

[Tyler]

I just, I thought it's hilarious because I look at that and I'm like, I didn't think women should have been cops when I was in but I never would have said it because that's just A way to plump plunger your career.

[Dominic]

You guys hear me? Because I can't hear you.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, back, back, back out and come back in.

[Dominic]

Oh,

[Tyler]

did he read my L? All right, he does have a lot of that background noise, but, yeah, dude, I don't know what I would have. Would have done, man, if I was that, because I probably would have laughed.

[Mike]

I. I can only imagine, like.

[Dominic]

Because it's a warrior.

[Tyler]

Oh, this is my point, Mike. This is my point. You can bring it back in. This is my point. Right? You watch that video? Can you hear me now, Dom?

[Dominic]

Yep.

[Tyler]

All right, my point is, is that one of the arguments. Arguments. Why men and women shouldn't be in environments like this together is because men feel the obligation to defend women. If that was your boys getting roasted, you'd be like, yeah, dude, fool's calling you out, dog. You know, like, you'd be making fun of your boys, watching them get off, and then you boss balls about it and go about your day. Right? That's that culture we build where women, that cop, felt automatically inclined to not bust their balls. And, I mean, he didn't defend them, but he borderline kind of did, where it. It's just different. And you can't.

[Dominic]

You need to take. You need to take your argument to the other side of that coin. Now, what happens when it's your sister or you guys are jockeying on duty and the guy mouths off or he resists? Do you not think that the guy or something, some guy wants to impress the new broad that's on. On the department? Do you not think he's going to go a little bit harder with taking somebody into custody now. Oh, you mouthed off to my girl. Or. Or. Think about all the times that some guys, like a discretionary, doesn't want to make an arrest, but all of a sudden his gumada's on scene and now he's got a hooker. Yet women do not belong working the roads of the men. I ever. Almost every female that ever worked up in our area was screwing somebody else, and lives got. Lives got ruined.

[Tyler]

Well, my sheriff candidate Dilks, what is your thoughts on females in law enforcement?

[Mike]

I'm pro merit, anti di. Anti. 30 by 30. If they're qualified, they can pass the standards. And the standards will be different under Sheriff Dilks. But if they. If you can pass the standards and everybody can perform, then there's a. There's a place. There's a place, but you have to. I. I also know it's in the kitchen. What the. I also know what the standard looks like. So if you're, if you can't meet it, then there might be a problem. And the responsibility. Yes, and the responsibility, because I, if I'm in charge, I have to go knock on your mom's door. I have to go knock on your husband's door and say, hey, sorry, you know, Becky didn't make it because of xyz.

[Dominic]

And then face the lawsuit.

[Mike]

Yes. And I have to face a lawsuit. And it's like, well, did you, did you put her in the right position? Well, no, we really didn't care. Was there any standard? No. That's when those standards are going to matter. That's when it's going to come out like, well, they just let anybody be a cop.

[Tyler]

You know what I've never heard of, though, Mike, until I heard you blabber, blabber drawing yesterday on your show, I've never once heard indirectly, directly, third person of a female 100 qualifying to be on the SWAT team. I've heard about females.

[Mike]

She didn't. She didn't.

[Tyler]

She was. Okay,

[Dominic]

I'm gonna give him credit.

[Mike]

Good people, but no.

[Dominic]

Anthony from Heroic Industries put this a comment on a video yesterday.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yesterday.

[Dominic]

And he DM me as well, too. He goes, he's surprised that lawyers haven't looked at these fitness standards or the men and women who can't meet them and gone after them with lawsuits. The. The girl from Houston who just got canned a couple months ago from dropping the M bomb privately. Well, now she's got like 75 Brady notices against her, which is going to open the door for the Ben Crumps to come in and go, oh, we have to overturn all, all of your arrests and citations and go after the department now. So if that standard just got open, how soon until LGBTQ or any other social entity is now targeted and fit cops again? What happens when you find out, here's your stack of candidates and then out of all the candidates, you chose a 4 foot 11 female or a guy who's 290 pounds or 5 foot 10, can't breathe. They showed up to a, to a 911 call. My husband is shot and dead for having a mental health crisis when you should have been able to go on hands on. Instead, these lawsuits, they are going to start coming. And I think this is honestly what's needed to change the profession for the better again. Bring back height requirements and males only.

[Mike]

It just, it just seems in a world and all the videos we watch and everything we see, beautiful blue eyes, you can look at it and say probably if these guys were fit, right? How many times you said Every time you watch, Every time, like you watch a video.

[Dominic]

I have no idea. I have no idea what you're talking about there.

[Mike]

I'm looking, I'm looking at the door. Hey, what's up over there?

[Tyler]

What's going on?

[Dominic]

I just, I just, I, I, I think.

[Tyler]

What were you talking about?

[Dominic]

Yeah. No idea. Is it.

[Mike]

Standards are important. Standards are important.

[Tyler]

What? All right, let's, let's. But you got the video loaded?

[Mike]

I got another one. This is a Jacksonville sheriff's office shooting. I think I have it ready. Maybe. Yeah.

[Eli]

Here we go.

[Dominic]

Now. Get on the ground. Get on the ground.

[Mike]

He's got a gun.

[Dominic]

Why are you going to Les Lethal? He's got a gun now.

[Mike]

It's like in his pocket. Yeah, you'll see.

[Dominic]

We do not want to hurt you, okay?

[Tyler]

Why? I didn't do that.

[Dominic]

Get on the ground.

[Mike]

Tase him, Tase him.

[Dominic]

Drop the gun. Drop the gun.

[Tyler]

Stop.

[Mike]

This was interesting right here because there's a, there's a gun. Look, look at, look at. I'm gonna keep going for a second to watch, though. Look the guy, look where that, that's the guy's gun on the top left. And the guy's back of the guy's head.

[Tyler]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Dominic]

He.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's the cop's gun.

[Mike]

That's the. There's a cop's left hand and the kid's head and his gun is point on his temple, on his skull. So gun. The kid's gun.

[Tyler]

Yeah, man. One thing I will tell you about that, Dominic, you are by far my favorite person to like, articulate things with. I never know what you're gonna say.

[Dominic]

This, this is my biggest problem. I have a huge problem with videos like this.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

This is.

[Dominic]

That was great script for the movies, right? Here's, here's the two facts you had. Subject with a gun who was exercising physical and verbal non compliance, right? So instead now they went through steps not less lethal. I think they had the beanbag rounds it sound like. And then a taser. This was a successful deployment that graduated all the way up to deadly force. When you do show like this, it appeases to the public. And then the public says, this now must become the standard. Oh, we need to go to Les Lethal. First taser and then gun. That those two things right there, those three things. Gun, physical presence of gun, physical and verbal non compliance. Everybody's pistol or long gun should have been out. And as far as temple on the temple on there. He. Was he secured yet?

[Mike]

Well, he wasn't secure in the process.

[Dominic]

If he wasn't secured, deadly force right here. That is. That is a 100 acceptable tactic as far as I'm concerned.

[Mike]

He's been in custody for about 20 seconds.

[Dominic]

Officers are 77. Okay now. Yeah. Get that gun off. Hey. Yes.

[Eli]

Hey.

[Mike]

When you check yourself.

[Dominic]

I'm fine. I don't know if you shot or not.

[Mike]

That just slows it down.

[Tyler]

That's. Yeah. Don't play that. We're already in. I don't know.

[Mike]

That's one of the other things that I, I don't know if she's going to comment it. What, what she said earlier when I watched it the first time. But one other thing brought up was by her was that you noticed he was in custody for about 20, 25, 30 seconds and then they went to the replay. No one started any life saving measures. And what she thought and. And stated was that a lot of times in a, in a scenario, like in a. A shoot house scenario or blue gun scenario, they call index. Soon as the bad guy's down and we just walk out and start the scenario over where in real life we have to immediately render aid and this kid stays down. It goes for quite a while to. Anybody gets into like maybe we should start plugging bullet holes and like roll him over, see where we hit him. I, I don't think it changes any. I think he's. He's pretty dead. But in the event he's not, you know, I, I think one of the things like continue the scenario, the argument

[Tyler]

that you're using is that he's most likely dead. Right. But what is the need to. What is the need for the gun? The gun for to the head?

[Mike]

No, that part I don't know. I don't know. I just saw that. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna die on the hill of the guy with a gun on his head because like, like Dom said, he's still able to grab a gun. He can do something else until he's in custody. Would I do that? You know, a flex. He raises his head. If your trigger discipline's not good. And you pop him in the skull. That's gonna look horrible. You shoot him again. 20 seconds later.

[Tyler]

Movement.

[Dominic]

He's trying to.

[Mike]

So. But the other thing was that was brought up was, you know, immediately we're supposed to start to render aid and are we training to make sure that's the next step in our brain?

[Dominic]

The biggest problem. The biggest. And it goes back to training. Biggest problem is I've never been in a shooting, so I don't know what the physiological response would be after I pulled the trigger, Whether or not I would be able to function properly. Properly and do what was needed to do.

[Mike]

And I brought that up, but somebody needs to. That's where there's three, four guys there, right? I pulled the trigger.

[Tyler]

I'm.

[Mike]

I go into like, oh, God meltdown. I don't know why I'm done. Like, I'm overloaded. Hey, man, let me take your gun. Go sit over here.

[Tyler]

No. Well, nothing. First off, nothing wrong with having a. With going from threat to I'm gonna get roasted.

[Mike]

No, no, no, I'm good with that. But somebody has to go, all right, we gotta.

[Tyler]

Everybody shoots. That's the. That's not saying it's a problem. We watch. Okay, so maybe the taser guy should have. And the other thing, too. That's the hard part about body cams that I know you guys are so gung ho on body cams is that, yes, Mark should have been checked 100. And the guy with the rifle did a great job of going. You need to check yourself. However, that is 100 now public domain for anybody to use against Mark. I don't think that's part of the job.

[Dominic]

Then that. That should be proof right there. I need to train and train and train and train and train so that my actions will be synonymous with. But that's what my mind not taking over. And then also this never happens on video that.

[Tyler]

But that's what they tell us to do. Check each other, right? So if we check each other in crisis, in many crisis like that, like, yo, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Well, if that's the corrective action to those things, because we. We train buddy chicks, like at annual training. If that's the corrective action, then it can't be used against him ever.

[Dominic]

It's even. It's even a more argument for more body cameras out there and more frequent recording. Because if what we just saw was whatever, you know, the humanizing aspect of the badge, well, then if you saw, hey, across the nation, every shoe shooting that cops get into, you're going to see one cop revert to his lizard brain where he actually just does X, Y, and Z. Oh, so it's a common thing among people who shoot. Let's just put that out there. You easier to defend, the more transparency there is.

[Mike]

All right, now I have a. We'll. We'll lighten the mood a little bit here. Is the latest hiring class of Grady Judge. Beloved Polk County Sheriff's office.

[Dominic]

Awesome sister.

[Mike]

It gets good. So let's roll here. You can't really see. You see a few things.

[Dominic]

Oh, is this a giant guy at the end?

[Mike]

No, no, no, this is a new one. But I want you to watch. Grady's a kind of elderly old man, right? I want you to watch the size of the officers as they go through the pictures compared to the sheriff. Tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny.

[Dominic]

Oh, my God.

[Mike]

There we go. Yeah. Two out of that. Nope, we're still going. So that, that's interesting, right? That's our hiring pool at the beloved problem.

[Dominic]

He is touching on the problem.

[Mike]

But look at how small everybody was. And then we're getting into standard and. And we're getting into the same things we keep talking about. That's.

[Dominic]

That's a.

[Mike]

That's a 12, what, 15, 20 person hiring group. And I saw two people the same height or taller than the sheriff and very, very small.

[Tyler]

Let me ask you guys, it's something we never talked about because it. What's your thoughts on hiring geriatric people to the job? Because I remember I was training dudes in their mid-50s. Now these are. I'm not even kissing your ass, Mike. This isn't Mike Dilks 50. These are old men. These are old men. And there's such a need for cops. And I'm like, dude, are you gonna do 30 years in the Florida retirement system? You're gonna be like 80, 85 years old. And they're like, well, no, probably not. And I'm in my head, I'm like, because you'll be dead before you retire. And so I'm like, now we're hiring people knowing that they're not going to be able to finish out in a time. That's.

[Dominic]

How bad do you guys have. Have any. Any feds friends? Because, like, my friend is in the dea, and when he went in, we went to the academy together. Two years on the department. He got hired for the DEA and they just forced him out because he was 59. It's like the standards for him were insane. And he was a 6 foot 3 marine, which is built like a tank. So it's like I have to wonder, did the federal government, FBI, dea, did they lower their standards and as well or are they still just accepting only elite? And law enforcement is the one where any can get a badge? Now,

[Mike]

DA ever. I don't know if DA ever hired elite based on the ones I worked with, but I I don't know.

[Dominic]

It's supposed to be, it's supposed.

[Mike]

Well, talking to the guy yesterday, talking to John from yesterday, he was saying that the standards are higher now for Secret Service. I know we saw some women, small women and all that in Trump's assassination, but he was telling us that the standards now and what they're putting out or coming through the Secret Service academy and their teams are better than what he, when he went through like 20 some years ago. So at least in that one agency, he was saying that the standards have increased. Now we know the standards have not increased in law enforcement. We know. No, that hasn't happened.

[Dominic]

Yeah, no, I think it's a, I think it's a argument because the standards are based on the foundation of what the standards are. Meaning that if in my day the, the power test was a mile and a half run, 13 minute 48 second 98 of your body weight and then you got to do X amount of sit ups. But then, and, and I did 120% of my body weight and I ran it in 11 minutes. Minutes, I would be the elite of that standard. Well, if today the standards have been lowered to where? Well, you only got to do a plank for 90 seconds and the mile run is 20 minutes and then you get a guy who ran eight. Well, the guy ran 17 minute mile. That was better than Izzo's time back in 2001. So this is the elite of this. When you lower those standards, it's not that, it's not that difficult to raise the elite standard level.

[Mike]

Definitely.

[Dominic]

Yeah,

[Mike]

we have a problem. I can tell you that big time.

[Dominic]

Yes we do.

[Mike]

Problem we have and it's, it's just like every other. And then I don't understand because it's law enforcement. I don't understand because of dangers. But like everything else, we're like, if you don't lower your standards, you, you're a bully or you're a bad guy. For like you, you get all kinds of talked about you for accepting or having a standard and refusing to, you know, to allow people to variate from it.

[Dominic]

And you admit every single day you will see nothing more than hate for me by saying, do you want a 4 foot 11 girl showing up when your dad or husband has a bad day and he just needs to be taken to court for whatever disorderly conduct and the 4 foot 11 girl shows up and shoots and kills him or the fat tub of shows up, can't put him into custody, shoots and kills him. Oh Ezo, you act like you're God's gift to law enforcement. Yeah. Because I want your family safe. And I do want these professionals being professionals. It's as simple as that.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Got a super chat from Tactical Redaction. So Sheriff Dilts won't hire me because I'm five seven.

[Mike]

Oh, I'm five seven two.

[Dominic]

That's right. We'll form our own police department.

[Mike]

It's not. It's not the hype.

[Tyler]

What's that? The Lollipop Guild.

[Dominic]

We're taller. We'll be the. We'll be the. We're Tom Cruise height. So it's not that you guys are

[Mike]

easy to fit through windows and stuff when there's, like, a dead body in the house.

[Dominic]

And we don't want.

[Mike]

We don't want to. We don't want to go in the back and find it. We just wish you guys not.

[Dominic]

When your ass is as wide as mine and you can't fit through the.

[Mike]

It's not the height alone. It's the size combined. You have to be able to. You have to be able to have a standard. I'm never going to back down from a standard. And I. It. The fact that people have convinced even public that it doesn't matter is the most mindboggling thing because we. We all do it. You look at a guy and you're like that, dude, there's no way. There's no way I can do the job.

[Dominic]

You ever see the movie Armageddon?

[Tyler]

I love that movie. It's like my favorite movie all time.

[Dominic]

Do you know. Do you know the delusion of what law enforcement has become? The scene where they're all getting ready to do training, and I can't remember what Michael Duncan Clark's character was, but the giant black man, right? Bear. So Bear is cracking a joke, and that very small female hot astronaut looks and goes, bear, you paying attention? Because if I'm gonna kick your balls in space. And all of a sudden he went, yes, ma'. Am. That's exactly what they thought that females were gonna do in law enforcement. Command presence. You get a domestic girl shows up, 411 walks in the door, and all of a sudden, some guy who's 6ft and he has a bank got fired, can't feed his family, and his wife is cheating on him is all about. Supposed to go, oh, female cop. Yes, ma'. Am. Yes, ma'. Am. That's exactly what they thought was supposed to happen. And it's a joke. Command presence. These people. You cannot have command presence if you're a fat, disgusting disheveled piece of. And you do not have command presence. If you are a short female, you will, you just don't have it.

[Mike]

And not, you know, I go all the way to not only command presence. And I, you know, people say what does having. What is physical fitness? What did you being able to go run the bridge at noon in the heat. What is you being able to bench and work out? It shows that I hold myself to a standard and that I put effort into something like physical fitness and that I don't expect to be able to tell somebody they have to do something unless I can also do it as well. And I think that translates all the way through the ladders of leadership. Because if I'm not holding one part of law enforcement, which is a physical fitness standard, if I'm not doing that, I'm just slumpy leader that's way out of shape and can't, can't breathe. How can you, how can I look at you and say, well, I don't hold this standard at all. You guys all have to go a PT test. I don't do it. But I need you to do all these other things. And I don't take my word for it. I'm very accountable behind closed door. I hold myself to a really good standard. You can't even get those words out. Where I go, you don't hold yourself.

[Dominic]

That's internal. Look, look at the pictures of your uniforms. You wore shirt stays, didn't you?

[Mike]

Yeah, I talked to Nana, right? Yes.

[Dominic]

You wore shirt stays. You, you, you. I have never seen a non 100. What? I have never seen a non 100 flawless picture of you in uniform. Not a single wrinkle, not a blouse anywhere. Nowhere. How many guys in your department dress like that?

[Tyler]

It's because they're all AI.

[Dominic]

No, I'm talking about the ULSA before the that stuff. So. Yeah, so, you know, you're right. So it's that, that being said, if you take the exact. You could take two of you, another, another six foot tall dilks and whatever, and you have that uniform presented exactly the way you wore it and somebody else who wears it. It's blousing a little bit. Sleeves are a little bit bigger, shows up on scene, you know, psychologically the person's gonna gravitate right to you. That is command presence. And it has everything to do with the first impression of physicality.

[Mike]

And you're, and you're right, I, I recall and I'm not. What do you say?

[Tyler]

Antonio Bandanas says I'm a PT admin for my agency and it's utterly disgusting. Standards are the same for male and female. 1.5 mile run in 14, 30, 22 push ups in 1 minute, 32 sit ups in 1 minute and a 220 yard sprint in 4:47 seconds. I'm trying to figure out the sprint.

[Mike]

I don't know that we ran a 300, but not. Well, I could run, I could run the 400 in almost a minute. So that mile and a half run,

[Dominic]

that sprint is more important.

[Mike]

Minute 20, mile and a half. I ran it 9:39.39 was my fastest mile and a half.

[Tyler]

Well, okay. The integration of women into law enforcement right here, here in Antonio Bandana's training academy. You're already. So if we're going to accept the fact that women are going to be here, the next step is accepting the fact and saying it out loud that their standards for PT are going to be different for patrol. Maybe they need to be. Because now what we're doing is to make it fair. We're lowering the standards for men.

[Eli]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

So now men have to just do

[Mike]

what women could do.

[Tyler]

This whole thing is asking backwards.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Right.

[Dominic]

That's why you see in my comment section the brain dead who say, well, if they pass the fitness standards then I accept them. They lower the fitness standards. So anyone can I have guys. I'm sure you guys do too all the time. Who will DM me? They talk about the eight chances their department gave a candidate to pass a physical standards test. We got one. One.

[Tyler]

That's insane. Dude.

[Mike]

That is insane.

[Tyler]

What were you gonna say, Mike, before I read, do we have any videos loaded? Is that a new one?

[Mike]

I wrote I don't want to lie. So my fastest mile over 45, over 43 was. I ran a 551 mile. But 551 with you, a 551 mile

[Dominic]

puts me chasing a gazelle.

[Mike]

As I said, a minute, a minute for 400. So at 551 mile, my split times per lap is 126.

[Dominic]

Every lap is. Are you going out with a bone in your nose and a shield to hunt for your dinner?

[Mike]

No, that was, that was getting ready

[Dominic]

for that cruise, aren't you?

[Mike]

Four years ago I ran that. My friend had faster as a kid. And then when I tried out for SWAT, I was running a 9:39ish mile and a half and I could bench, I could bench 315. Yeah, I was, I was, I was in good shape. A lot of.

[Tyler]

How much trend were you on?

[Mike]

A lot of Peptides, peptides, peptides, vitamins. What was I gonna say?

[Dominic]

You're talking about your uniform.

[Mike]

Oh no, I don't know. But yeah, that's all. Oh I was gonna say. When I did get in shape and I had all the muscles that people talk smack about, about. I remember a call one time where there was like two females and another smaller male and they were at a skating rink having a disturbance with some people. They're calling me like hey can, can you be in route? So I get there and immediately that I'm not, not bragging but immediately the focus went from them and there was a big, big dude there and he really looked at me and then they were like, all right, we're good. Like the cops. I could see him like all right. Me and him started going back and forth at it. I got him to back up. Got, got it under control. But you're right, that presence and that doesn't mean a 57 guy that's yoked is going to have the same presence as 511. Mike doesn't matter. Or in well and well in, in shape that you can tell he works out. Nice sleeves, tight uniform look professional. Immediately that's going to take over the present command presence. And that, that's, that's the point of it. So that's, that's part of being fit is that initial de escalation, which everybody wants. De escalation, good de escalation is not being 5 foot 1, 110, not being 5 11, 130 pounds on Ozempic, not being 5, 5400 pounds. You walk up a well shaped human being in good shape with a nice uniform. You're immediately de escalating the situation because people are going, I'm not with this dude. Throw a cup, throw a sleeve on, throw a. Forget about it man. Nobody wants, nobody wants that smoke. So it immediately creates a presence or, or a command presence without ever having to speak a word. Even the guy that was cussing the females out, what did he say? Well you would, you, you'd be able to throw me on the ground. But those two couldn't. Even though he's being a dick, he says it, he's like, well I would get away from you, can't get away from you. And he was a decent shaped dude. He looked like he was squared away as uniform looked.

[Tyler]

Okay, that's the show.

[Dominic]

I, I agree with this here. The new thing should be 30 by 30 by 30. 30 of law enforcement being females by the year 20, 30 and an increase in pay for males to 30%.

[Mike]

He's always got a different caveat to that equation. Yeah, the Last one was 30, 100

[Dominic]

because they're going to be doing 30 more of the work. So it's ultimately be 30 by 30 by 30. 30 by 30.

[Mike]

I thought it was 100 by 30.

[Dominic]

Yeah, well that's what should be. That's what it should be. Should be 100 by by December of 2026. But that's not going to change. To be honest, at this point I'm like it, every male cop on the planet should just go, I feel sick today. Have the blue flu and let every female do the job and watch just everything you want to prove that females can't, they can't do the job. Make it a whole 100 females for three months. Because you know what? It's, it's females need. Females need males to do the job. It will never be. Males need females to do the job.

[Mike]

And here, here. And obviously Sheriff Dilks navigates this carefully, but the where that makes sense is, is identifying the fact that putting a certain person in a position based on only their sexes is, is, is stupid. It doesn't make any sense because that, you know, it sounds rough what you're saying, but it's the truth. What percent is the, the final number you guys want? 40, 50, 60, 80. But just to say that out loud makes even, makes the argument of 30 by 30 even worse for them because it's like, why are we picking a number? Why would you ever vary from the

[Tyler]

most qualified with your argument argument for to. And it was a good one to say, you know, hey, when we were talking about women being sexually harassed at work by men and male in like police environments. Right? Like male dominated environments. And you said, well, who's gonna work those jobs? Women or who's gonna work those jobs? Men? And for a half a second you had me. It's like I wasn't expecting that, but you're absolutely right. We can't expect men to work. Work secretary jobs because they're. Men are not good men. Men are meant to do.

[Dominic]

They do in the military. Do they do it in the military?

[Tyler]

Most of the men in the. Most of the people that are secretaries in the military are women. I mean, there are some men.

[Dominic]

How about this? When the military was run proficiently, did they have males who had those roles?

[Tyler]

No, no, no.

[Dominic]

You don't watch, you don't watch World War II, World War I videos. They had a lot of men who were administrative work back then.

[Tyler]

Were they trying to get out of real work.

[Mike]

There was very little women in the military back then. When they went overseas.

[Tyler]

I see what you're saying. Yeah.

[Mike]

When you went to. When they went overseas for war, they didn't bring female secretaries. They bought all men because they were friends.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, like, but that lose your paperwork for vacation. Well, we. We lost S1, remember, Mike? S1 lost the paperwork. Like, S1 is nothing. I'm going to leave one demographic out of it. But the other demographic was women.

[Dominic]

The biggest problem and how this got to be this way is I'm sure you guys can rewind back to the beginning of your career and think of those who were not sergeants who are now who. You're like, oh, God, this is the idiot who just was a suck up who couldn't do. They threw him in detectives, because he sucked on patrol. Those are the guys who are running the show now who have the brass. They are the. Dude. It's every department in America is now being run by the guys who couldn't cut it. I'll have to say this, I'm blown away, but my first department is now. The chief of police was the guy who was the CSO when I was on. And he was the best, but he was the best. He actually became a cop. And my God, watching him grow was amazing. But everyone else, everyone else was this patrol officer who they was. They threw him somewhere else and then he climbed the ladder because he got more admin capabilities. Those are the ones now who are forming policy. They are the cucks. They're the ones who go home, wife calls the shots. Yeah, 30 by 30 is a good idea. That's how we got in this mess. We made admin. The guys who couldn't do patrol and the patrol guys who were salty, they just stayed on patrol. Fuck that. I don't want to be admin. They did their 20, did their 10, and they left. They're the ones to blame. The guys who actually could do the job, who didn't want to climb the ranks and become brass. They are why we're in the mess we are today.

[Mike]

I agree with you, but part of that is, well, it's the pro. It's the entity that eats those guys up. Because what happens is they pull that guy, that's a piece of. And then they put him in classes for the next eight years and he gets no road time. He go, that's where. That's my biggest argument, that every one of those stupid FBI, all that nonsense these guys claim makes them better leaders. It doesn't because you sat in an admin air conditioned building for 10, 11, 12 years. Now you're the captain and the place is all up. Or you're the sheriff or you're the deputy chief and the place is a show that shows you that classroom leadership does not resonate to leaders in law enforcement.

[Dominic]

Do you ever work with somebody on the road who had a couple of years senior to you and they were the oic? They weren't even sergeant, they were the oic and my God, you'd follow them in a hell. And then they go away. They disappear for six months, go to the FBI staff at command school and come back and they are not the same person. Yeah, it's every single time.

[Mike]

I take pride in the fact that I worked. I went to schools and they were all law enforcement schools to learn firearms, active shooter instructor, you know, SWAT classes, things that actually resonated to coming back and investigating advanced homicide schools, task force schools. But I stayed within detective or patrol my whole career, you know, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then leadership at the end. But, but I know that meant that is better than a guy who disappears to detective and goes and gets his fucking master's degree and never comes back. He can't tell you what you're dealing with on patrol when he hasn't done it in 6, 8, 10, 12 years. It's impossible, it's impossible to understand that. Why did you cuss at him? Well, hey man, since you've been in the deep or you've been an admin for the last 12 years, things have changed out there. You don't, you know, like the kid, like a 14 year old kid tells me to suck my dick like an 11 year old girl tells me to go fuck myself on the, you know, you didn't deal with that 12, 15 years ago because it wasn't happening. You don't understand that times have changed. And you can't tell me what I felt, smelled, looked at, did or what what my perception was because you don't know the job anymore. And you can't learn that job in any classroom. You have to do the job out

[Dominic]

here to learn it.

[Mike]

And that's, that's in a nutshell, what happened.

[Dominic]

They're open to influence from academics who come in and say we need DEI in 30 by 30, now 100. What you just said is 100% accurate.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's where we're at. And fuck them all. And that's where you know it's a, it's not a dream. It's just. I understand I'm in a massive uphill battle to try to get elected because of those beliefs. My beliefs are just.

[Dominic]

I think you're in a great position where the silent majority are not in your head and they will secretly vote because they're like, you're 100. Right?

[Mike]

I I would hope because even, you know, if it wasn't me and it was somebody, there's about four or five guys I could pick like me, that I would say I'd like to see you in charge of this whole place and how it would change because I know they have the same. They're made up the same way I'm but it's always that story where that guy just never pulls it off. Like Rocky Balboa in the police world always gets knocked out. He never pulls off that big knockout at the end and wins. It's always the entity and those scumbags that sit around each other that keep guys that really have the best intentions from getting to that spot. If it could happen, that would I would be able to show America this.

[Dominic]

That's why everyone needs to go to dilksforsherif.com, click on that donate button and if you're not in the state, you need to contribute so that he can get his message out. That's dot com.

[Tyler]

You need to be writing down timestamps of these episodes with a date on them where you say really good and

[Mike]

then you can it's every day, man. You want me to just send you the episode all the episodes for the whole week or what do you want me to do?

[Tyler]

I'm sure you'd love me to make your reels too. Would you? No, I'll do that for my contribution. I'll make your your are too fancy.

[Mike]

Yeah, you actually could in kind in kind donation. You have to have DX music in all of them or I won't. I won't play them.

[Tyler]

Break it down. You can be coming out. We can make you AI coming out

[Mike]

to fight you real we missed we missed one of the most important dates in wrestling history two days ago on June 23, 2000 30. What's 30 years minus that?

[Dominic]

86. 96. No, 86. June 86.

[Mike]

June 23, 1996. Stone Cold Steve Austin for the first time said Austin. 316 says I just whipped your ass. That changed the entire scope of wrestling. He beat Jake the Snake. He beat Jake the Snake. Do you know, I didn't know this till I watched a documentary. He almost died the night before he got out of the hotel. He got back to the hotel. He said he was on so much alcohol and energy drinks the night before, King of the ring. He got out of the elevator and had to be rushed to the hospital. He spent four hours getting IVs. Four hours getting IVs. And the doctor released him, but said, you can't wrestle tonight. He went out, wrestled, won the king of the ring, walked back and dropped that promo. And that was the most important promo in wrestling history. So I think we agreed 30. It was 30 years ago, right? I think we agreed.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I was in. I was in. I was in basic training when that happened. I was in Fort Polo or Fort Benning.

[Tyler]

I was in fourth grade.

[Dominic]

I was 21. 21.

[Mike]

I was in. I was 20 turning in the nightclub industry.

[Dominic]

I was turning drinks and 20. That was liquid G era. That was the Liquid G era. The. The glow sticks.

[Tyler]

That's what. That's what people call. That's what they try. When they try to cover up. They're a loser. I was in the services. What'd you call it? What'd you call it down.

[Dominic]

The what industry? The nightclub industry.

[Tyler]

The nightclub. I work predominantly in the nightclub industry.

[Dominic]

I was behind the bar, man, slinging cocktails.

[Tyler]

Slinging cocktails.

[Eli]

Tales.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Mike]

I'm good.

[Tyler]

All right, tonight, Counterculture Inc. We got 60 people still watching. Go to Counterculture Inc. YouTube. Check out the Counterculture Inc. Live. We are going to be breaking down. Me and Jay are going to be breaking down. What to look forward to in the Counterculture Inc. Network. It's going to be a good show and we will be back tomorrow. Anti Hero Broadcast, 1pm Eastern Standard Time. YouTube, Facebook and X. See you tonight. Jv team for life.