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No.
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Mike
And don't forget Patreon. Patreon is growing extremely fast. We've removed all free membership and everybody in there is a paid member who gets exclusive content. We actually added a higher tier for anybody who wants to get the real deal information on what goes down in the anti her broadcast.
Tyler
What.
Mike
We don't hide it. We don't, we don't suppress it. We give you the facts to the point where I believe starting on next Tuesday, we're going to do an exclusive hour just Patreon to update everybody. Then we're going to hop over and do an hour live for everybody to see.
Tyler
Yeah, it's so we can have an audio stream on Tuesdays because we let it rip last Tuesday. And I'm like, we cannot put that audio up.
Mike
And we're going to keep letting it rip. But we want you guys to have that hour of exclusive one on one, on two. Two on one. No Lewis. No Lewis to mute us, unmute us. You get everything behind the scenes in Patreon. That's not going to go up on any platform. If it gets screenshot and sent around, we don't care either. But that'll be just for you guys. And then we'll hop out, do the break go and then go an hour where everybody can interact. And that'll give everybody a little. And by condensing it down to the Patreon hour, we can just. It doesn't drag. We can give you everything quick. We can talk, interact, do all that stuff.
Tyler
And then Mike just wants to get out of here.
Mike
No, what is he talking about? It's another hour. We can get it done quick.
Tyler
Don't have to talk too much. Just get it done.
Mike
Go live for everybody. That's two hours.
Tyler
It's live for everybody.
Mike
All right, whatever it is this guy's
Tyler
trying to say, it's his idea. He doesn't even know what he's talking about. But the, the major tier, it was
Mike
his idea it wouldn't happen. So just don't worry about it.
Tyler
The major tier, the big tier that we just created on Patreon, don't feel obligated to go. It is really just for complete and utter transparency. If anybody has any questions. And it's also, you know, a place where like, you know, where people are more invested in counterculture and anti heroes, where we're going to be kind of like getting to know people. And you know, we plan on expanding this as fast as we can. And you know, if any, anybody, if we're looking for jobs, that's the place where we're gonna go. The people that, that we know, if we're looking for.
Mike
Hey, guys, we're getting fired. We need a job. So we'll be reaching out to you guys.
Tyler
No, those guys are blocked from Patreon that do jobs.
Mike
So before we start the show real quick, I'm gonna bring this up. This is going to be the one year anniversary on the seventh of one of my best friends of all, Sergeant Paul Newborn, who was the first sergeant in the 82nd Airborne. Ranger Instructor RI passed away one year ago on March 7th. He was one of the realest dudes I've ever met. When Tyler talks about loyalty, this guy is in the top two or three of my entire life. Helped me turn my life around when I was down. He was a absolute warrior. Like I said, there's not many black Rangers, Black Ranger instructors. This guy was everything there was to be about military. After 20 years of service to the United States army, he did 20 years of service to the Emory County Sheriff's office. So shout out to Paul upstairs. We appreciate you. Rangers lead the way. And I miss him every single day because I would love to run this drama by him that's going on. So shout out to Paul.
Tyler
Yeah, speaking of which, I mean, I cut a reel about loyalty the other day, and apparently some. We'll just say some people so we don't have to make it singular. Was upset about it. And it's funny because I didn't name anybody.
Mike
You did not?
Tyler
I didn't name one person. So I feel like if you think that was about you.
Mike
Yeah, that's how my memes go. I get a bunch of. I make a meme that's generalized and I get like 10 people that go, but, but, but I'm like, well, I wasn't about you. It was about a general meme. But why are you worried? Why. Why did it bother you?
Tyler
I thought you were gonna cook.
Mike
Yeah, loyalty. And, and Tyler gave his rant on it. And I have the same. I have the same thing. There are very few loyal people. And when loyalty is, is addressed or talked about, there is no. There's no leeway. It's either you're in or you're out and going behind backs and, and talking to people and giving out personal business and talking about the inner workings. We're lying. And it's, it's not fair to the people who, who are loyal that would never do that. To have that happen to them or to be put. For other people who are loyal to us to be put in a position where they're told things or, or sent things that aren't true. And that's what Patreon was for, to set something straight about the truth. We can do it here, live. I don't care where we do it. I'm just telling you that loyalty is important. We don't go off that track.
Tyler
I'll say Mike's on a leash right now, so he's just waiting to be breaking free.
Mike
Yeah, I mean, I have no problem. I mean, I. I was a dick when I was younger. I was a cocky young cop. I. I was. I knew I was decent at what I did, and I let it go to my head. And I've grown, and I've become much more mature. I. Anybody who messages me, talks to me, sees. I will do anything for you. I'll call you. I'll help you out with. From anything from your personal life to what's going on at your job. But I am also very nasty. I play good defense. I don't like to go on the offense. But if you're going to attack our character, if you're going to attack what we've done and say things like. And say things that aren't true, and I have no problem disclosing everything. I have no problem putting all that. Putting it all out there, because I know I've disclosed everything about my life. There's nothing you can Google that I haven't talked about. So if that's the game we're gonna play, I play it very well. Don't want to. Just want to move on, have a great show, have a great community. But if we have to, we have to. That's all I got to say about that.
Tyler
And then, you know when you say, I'm gonna walk away quietly, and you don't walk away quietly, that's an issue. Because we're like, okay, let's just have a mutual. You know, hey, we're not in each other's lives anymore. And when you are to the t. Less than 24 hours ago, not walking away quietly. Forcing my hand. Big dog. Big dog.
Mike
Yeah. Everything's been recorded. Everything's been documented, and we're gonna put
Tyler
something up in the. In the Patreon, the big tier today. So kind of like the last of it. I think that it's. And the Patreon is for people that understand. We're not talking, we're explaining. We have. Me and Mike have a lot of explaining on how something went down.
Mike
We learned from the first one. We took the high road on the first one. And that guy. Oh, yeah, still on us. Still did everything he said he wasn't going to do. And I felt like now if I go talk about it, we're like, oh, they're trying to get up behind. We'll go right out in front of everything. I'm never going, I'm never letting anybody dictate how we do things again for their feelings, especially when you're protecting them.
Tyler
It's entertainment, baby.
Mike
Yep, that's entertaining. Let's entertain.
Tyler
So I think the first thing we're going to talk about is any updates with Iran. So we talked about it a little bit yesterday. DC came on. He's like our unofficial Iran correspondent. Obviously he's not in Iran so I guess technically you can't be an Iran correspondent if you're not in Iran. But he knows a lot about the issue and he's got a lot of open source information he gets in real time. I don't know who his hookup is, but it's pretty dope.
Mike
Yeah, he's like that 3:00am Dude, 3:00am There's a message, group message all night long. Yeah, I mean I don't know when he sleeps.
Tyler
So I got something from, from one of our supporters that wanted to send information on why many GWAS service members want to see Iran get their ass kicked. Iran's number one export is not oil, it's terrorism. Iran is responsible For,000 over 1,000American deaths Mostly service members including wounded Number including wounded numbering in the several thousands. This is according to a con consistent estimates from US government sources the White House, Pentagon, the DoD think tanks, FDD, UANI and JCFA and other analysis. So a list of major events of American deaths attributed to Iran. Are you ready? This is broken down pretty easy.
Mike
Yep.
Tyler
1983 U.S. embassy bombing Baru in Beru Hezbollah Iran directed 17Americans killed 1983 Barut Marine barracks bombing Hezbollah Iran directed 241Americans killed 1984 U.S. embassy annex bombing Barut Hezbollah Iran directed 2Americans killed. You're good babe. You going. 1996 Cobar Towers bombing Saudi Arabia Iran backed Saudi Hezbollah 19Americans killed Iraq War 2003-2011 Iranian backed Shia militias and EFPs ISDS at least 603Americans killed 10-07-2023 Hamas pig massacre Israel Iran backed 47Americans killed Other Iranian backed attacks the 1980s through 2000 and 20s dozens more Americans killed Flight 847 hijacking Kuwait Airway hijacking CIA station chief was killed Just and those are just like the miscellaneous ones that don't really fit in the major categories. That's why people do not really see America or Iran in a. In a good light is they've been killing Americans since we shifted them into Sharia law and let Muslims take over in 1979. Within four years, they were committing terrorist attacks, killing Americans. So.
Mike
And say what you want about the president, but somebody did something. Yeah, you could. And I'm not gonna go conspiracies. Why this. That. I know all the. All of them are out there. There's all the stuff. But if you took all that out of it and wrote, read those numbers out loud, that should have been. We should have bombed them a long time ago.
Tyler
Oh, yeah.
Mike
And then, you know, a couple years ago, they, you know, took. Took our guys, put them at gunpoint.
Tyler
We know what it's like. Idealism is ideal. You. Peace is best. I, I. There was a Mel Gibson quote in the Patriots that Probably a fictional quote, but he says, you go back to the drawing board. You go back to the table over and over. Anything you can do to prevent war, like, anything. Now, that being said, that's when you start killing Americans. A lot of people, including myself, think, well, you just bypassed all of those negotiations. There's no more negotiations. But it feels like for three decades, we tried and tried.
Mike
What did I just say? Sometimes the best defense is really good offense. Like, you've backed me up.
Tyler
I'm trying to play deep best offenses.
Mike
Sometimes you're playing defense, but sometimes you can only play so much defense, so you have to go on offense different. Yeah, play more defense. Like, hey, I'm backing up. I'm backing up. I'm trying. Like when an animal's back into a corner and then it goes, okay, bam.
Tyler
And then now get back. And we can relate to this, too. We are pretty much America. But, you know, when you let something go for so long and then you snap, everybody goes, whoa, chill.
Mike
What are you doing?
Tyler
What are you doing, dude? You know, and so that being said, when you handle something as soon as it happens and you explain why you handled it that way, people can be upset, but there's no. There's no room for question. There's no room for why. There's no timeline. There's nothing. Why now? This whole. Why now?
Mike
I'm going back to Fetterman. Fetterman is my new. My new gauge. Fetterman was the only Democrat to vote to continue the operation in what we're doing right now. He was the only Democrat. A Republicans didn't vote for it. John Fetterman crossed over the aisle and said, keep doing It. I am starting. If I would have said that two years ago, out loud, three years, I thought I would have. Thought I would have. Baker acted myself for thinking I was going to go on the side of Fetterman. Fetterman has become about as middle of the world as you're going to get. Shook the president's hand at the state of Union, caught hell from his whole party and said, hey, bro, it's the president. I respect the. I respect the position. I'm not going to not shake his hand. He looks at this and goes, yeah, bomber. Like, that's what we need to do. My people in Pennsylvania need to be safe. That's what I'm thinking about. Take all the other out of it. Do it. He's the only Democrat that did it. And it's. I'm starting to go, all right, I can get down like this. Very easy mindset, like, it makes sense. They're a problem. Do it. None of this political garbage. And we want more Somalian money. We want this and the. But we want that. We want this. We want to defund ice. Is it safe for my people in Pennsylvania? Is it the best interest of my people in Pennsylvania that represent me or I represent to bomb Iran? And it is, then I'm voting for it. If it's not, I'm not voting for it. But I'm not going to take it out on a guy just because he's on the other side of the party and go, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure he doesn't have any success, or I fight him. So I look at him and go, he voted for it. He's a Democrat. He made a very conscious decision based on common sense.
Tyler
Logic.
Mike
Yeah, yeah, common sense. And sometimes it takes all. You can take all those degrees. I always argue that police work, too. Take all those classes and degrees out of it and look at it and go, common sense. This makes the most sense to do it this way. Don't need a book to tell me that. I know this is what seems like the right thing to do. So I. I think if he votes for it, I'm like, hey, common sense, man. He's not. He's not out here trying to sabotage anybody's party.
Tyler
All right, we got cc.
Mike
We do have cc.
Tyler
Conservative Chocolate, Yo. And of course, we can't hear.
DC
You can hear me now.
Tyler
You're not driving.
DC
I got you. No, no, no, no.
Tyler
I'm home.
DC
I'm home.
Tyler
I'm home.
Mike
All right, talk to us. Give us. Give us. Give us the dirt.
DC
All right, so currently, as we speak, they're smoking Bahrain and their oil depots. So Iran is launching ballistic missiles. Going crazy this morning as per usual. More news from last night, though. Israel did get smoked with a hypersonic missile. Tyler, if you want to go pull that up, because the missile is absolutely insane.
Tyler
I thought I.
DC
But I could send it to you.
Tyler
No, I got it. You sent it to us and you sent it to us in Instagram, correct?
Mike
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I did. Just make sure we got it. We got it.
DC
Yeah, right there, Bro.
Mike
Beautiful transition.
DC
So, yeah, I had to put it there because the comments were going crazy. So I'm like, okay, well, I guess I'll show you the actual news article where they're talking about them getting smoked.
Mike
I mean, I don't think there's anything on earth that can stop that thing right. At the speed it's traveling.
DC
Nah.
Tyler
So does it come from?
Mike
Okay, I'll take that down.
Tyler
Yeah, does. Well, I want to. Maybe I want to watch it again, Mike.
Mike
I don't think you do. I want to watch again.
Tyler
Yeah, let's hear it.
DC
Insane, bro.
Tyler
Okay, so I'm gonna ask a question that everyone's thinking and Mike's gonna make fun of me. That obviously came from the sky, but does it come down and then level out and then hit the building? Because that didn't come like straight down. That like came.
Mike
No, I think kind of like that plane hit the Pentagon. Kind of like that plane to hit the Pentagon. It was very parallel to the ground.
DC
Now I think if I'm, and I'm not a ballistic missile expert here, so nobody, you know, go crazy in the comments, but I'm pretty sure those, they level out once they get closer to their target because those missiles maneuver mid air to not get detected by the Iron Dome, Goliath, sling, and all the other cool things Israel has that somehow we don't.
Mike
We're paid for it.
DC
I don't know, some tax base, some coyum, some going after that.
Tyler
How many Americans died during that little hypersonic?
Mike
That's in Israel. That's in Israel.
DC
So none that I'm tracking, but most Israelis have dual citizenship, so there is that.
Tyler
No, that doesn't count.
DC
No, not really.
Mike
So. And then you're telling us about a. Another plane got shot down.
DC
Yeah. So this is, this is a. A tin hat but like very reliable resources1. But people are trying to sweep it under the rug right now. I'm assuming to not burn the connects, but there's heavy reporting that a F15E Strike Eagle got down last night and Seesar was able to pick him up and evac them within an hour, which is the real story here.
Tyler
Who is Seesaw?
DC
So Seesaw is the combat search and rescue.
Tyler
Oh, Seesaw.
Mike
And they were shot down, you're saying, in Iran.
DC
They were shot down over Iran. And the sources are saying that at least one of the sources attributed that to Iranian air defense. So they were getting down and dirty over, over enemy territory in Iran, wound up getting smoked out of the sky, ejected. They were taken over to, I think it was Saudi if I'm not mistaken, the hospital over there after Cesar picked them up. But that's the story right now. But a lot of accounts that know, a lot of people are trying to backplay the story, but they're not saying it's not true either. So I'm assuming they just don't want to burn the context.
Tyler
So. And I'm assuming that's an American bird, right?
DC
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the F15 strike.
Mike
Are you surprised at the success? I mean even one seems very successful for Iran. Then we had the, the radar hit in, in Qatar. Are you surprised at the success Iran is having?
DC
No, honestly speaking, the, the whole, the whole thing is like the same thing we talked about yesterday. It's all asymmetric. So we have to be perfect 100 of the time, which really is impossible because no system on earth is designed to be perfect 100 effective. And they just have to be effective once. So what they're doing is, is they're overwhelming the systems, sending a hundred shots and really just hoping one goes through.
Mike
Okay.
Tyler
Yeah, Justin nailed it. He called it a total bottle rocket. But it reminds me of the Saturn missile. Things that go on fourth of July. Little box. That is a fast moving missile. So it travels that fast the whole time. I know you figured out it's a hypersonic, so it leaves station that fast or does it get like dropped by another bigger bomb and then take off?
DC
Like now from what I'm tracking, they're, they're take, they're shooting those out of their underground tunnels. So since we're smoking them so good right now with their on ground man pads and their missile trucks, they're actually opening up and they already showed us this. So now we're just nuking those places too. But they have underground missile silos that they open up and it closes. That's the visual that.
Mike
No, the noises are on point, dude.
Tyler
And you know what's funny is that not only do the Jewish people have underground tunnels, but also the Iranians have underground tunnels? Are we the only ones without underground tunnels? Actually, no, the deep state does that.
DC
Well, the Christians have underground tunnels. I mean, look at all the old cathedrals.
Tyler
No, I'm talking about the Deep State, man.
DC
I ain't talking about. I can't talk about those tunnels.
Mike
Get ready for the cameras to go down, huh?
DC
I'm not about to be found with a shotgun slug in my chest and somebody ruled a suicide.
Mike
So what, what, what is your, like,
DC
what do you see?
Mike
How do you feel the progress is going with what's going on? And do you see discontinued attack? Do you see boots going on the ground? What, what are you hearing? What are you seeing as far as what's next?
DC
Without, without burning my source, I can say that a lot of reserve units are not only forcing full battalion quals right now. Not gonna say what branch, but it is multiple branches and they're all doing a hundred percent pha, including dental. If you know, you know, those get.
Tyler
They're getting those random shots in their arms that no one knows what it is.
DC
If you know, you know.
Mike
No. Four day passes, everything.
DC
No, but that's not even, that's not even coming from active duty boys. That's coming on the reserve side. So that's why for me, it's a little spooky.
Tyler
I don't, I never really was in during like, of like something this like, hey, we're probably going to real war. So like, I don't know, there was no gag orders for us. I mean, obviously we're just regular army. So they weren't like, hey, you can't tell anybody. But like, I mean, it's weird that no one knows what active duty is doing right now. They're 19 year old privates. They don't understand opsec. I want to know.
DC
Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you trying to phrase this without smoking myself from the people that I spoke to who were at where I was at last week, they didn't mention or speak about nothing. So somebody like they're getting their orders from whoever is in charge of them and so on and so forth. To shut the up right now about a lot. All right, like you walk around and you hear like a lot of chatter. I didn't even see these boys out besides them walking to and from work, which is crazy for a Marine specifically.
Tyler
Oh, okay. Marines a little bit. Okay.
DC
All right.
Tyler
So yeah, this is Karen in her investigation on.
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Tyler
All right, so someone needs to take away her Instagram for a minute because where is Karen getting her open source intelligence?
Mike
And that's that disinformation to me, like, we're not allowed to talk about a certain group of people. There's a Florida statute for that. But for this thing to go out and do that, you have families and, and service member families that are sitting here now. Maybe that starts to trigger them. Like, oh, my God, like, what. What's could this be? My problem with that is even in those places they're at right now, there's communication. You can talk to your family. It's not like World War II where you have to send a letter. So to make that claim and to start that kind of chaos, like, where
Tyler
is she getting hundreds from?
Mike
That's. There's no way.
DC
There's no way.
Mike
There'd be a hundred families lined up going, hey, they're not reporting this. My kid's dead. Yeah, I heard. My kids three, four weeks. There's no way. There's no way I can speak specifically
DC
to, like, the smaller bait, like, not the smaller bases, but like the less kinetic bases, like, you know, being in Kuwait and whatnot. Bro, you're hearing from people there all the time. I'm talking to people from Kuwait right now as we speak. They send me a T shirt.
Tyler
You gonna be around for a little bit? For breaking news for the next hour and a half or.
DC
Yeah, I'll be around, boys.
Tyler
All right. We're gonna bring on our, our. Our communist. What do you call it? Correspondent?
DC
The communist Marine.
Tyler
Oh, he likes a communist Marine. Not the communist. Because there's more communist Marines out there, but beautiful. Well, let us know if there's anything Breaking. We'll bring you back on a little bit.
DC
Yeah, Hodge was all right, man.
Mike
Thank you.
Tyler
So before we bring on Ryan and this is actually a really good video for him to talk about it with us is the. We want to explain the Marine that was kicked out of.
Mike
Well, basically had a Marine stand up and dis Israel.
Tyler
Can't do that.
Mike
Can't do that. And then gets. And. And you were breaking it down from the police tactic side, which I avoided because all the police pages just quickly posted about the tax.
Tyler
You want to play first?
Mike
Yeah, we can play if you want to play. I got it set up, ready to go.
Tyler
All right. Reason for this war.
Dominic Izzo
America does not want to fight this war for Israel.
Mike
Let's go. Come on, let's go. America does not want to stop its sons and daughters the war for Israel. Your inability to name that shows your as leaders. This is wrong, Doc.
Dominic Izzo
And nobody wants to fight for Israel.
Tyler
Please stand up as a Marine.
Mike
No one wants to fight for Israel.
Tyler
That was. I want to go back a little bit. You hear from what I believe you hear his wrist break and we'll. We'll break this down a little bit and then we'll bring on Ryan to give his say on it.
Mike
Sir, thank you for your service. He's a Marine. Somebody come help him control your Senate committee. Look at you guys.
Tyler
You're robots.
Mike
You won't even look back.
Dominic Izzo
Guys.
Mike
You're like. You're like robots.
Tyler
Oh, my God.
Dominic Izzo
What is happening?
Tyler
They continued on with the hearing. I love it.
Mike
And you're not even looking back, any of you. Four star generals.
Dominic Izzo
Oh, my God.
Mike
What is happening right now?
Tyler
I'm assuming this, this woman filming is probably his wife's maybe. Or I mean the chance that someone was sitting next to him with a phone, started recording and cares about this so much happen to be sitting right next to him. I'm assuming they're. They're in this together. There's a lot of things that we have to shame. Consider right here. Okay, so can you remove it? Can I remove it? I got it. Okay. So is this, is this the right setting for what he was trying to do? Now, I'm a firm believer if you go do something and you're making a stance, you know the repercussions of it. And so he went in, made a scene. They removed him, his arm. Unfortunately, his hand by his doing, got stuck in a door jam. They didn't put his hand in a door jam and go, you Marine. He grabbed it. It's not their job. Once their Job is to get someone out of the car.
Mike
No, no, no, no, stop. What's their job?
Tyler
To hear him out.
Mike
Their job is not to forcely injure.
Tyler
What's their job?
Mike
To control themselves. Because he's not violent, he's not hurting anybody.
Tyler
He's just let him stand there.
Mike
No, you can get him out breaking his wrist. He has a first amendment right to speak.
Tyler
He's not there.
Mike
Sure he does. Sure he does. He's an amazing.
Tyler
What stops everybody from doing that in the whole room. The whole room starts doing what he does.
Mike
And that's, that's a first amendment right to speak there. To break somebody's wrist because they have a strong opinion about something.
Tyler
Mike, you're saying that he had.
Mike
I'm saying he can be removed. But you don't get so tunnel visions and so locked in that you're willing to break another human being.
Tyler
But what if you didn't know his hand was in there?
Mike
Pay a tension. He wasn't violent. He wasn't fighting. He was. But he was limp, resisting and not wanting to go out 100%. You don't have a right to injure him because you don't know how to tactically control. Why not handcuff him first before you get all the way back there and play the dog and pony show so he can't grab the door on the way out.
Tyler
But you. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You're going to tell me that you're going to try to put handcuffs on somebody that's not compliant right now.
Mike
You're going to take him to the ground. Do something.
Tyler
They died. He kept fighting back. So if you're gonna.
Mike
Not fighting. He's not fighting. He's not fighting. He's resisting and.
Tyler
Sorry, actively resisting.
Mike
Okay, take it. So what are you gonna do? Wrestle him out the door to the hallway where there's more innocent people?
Tyler
You know what?
Ryan
Never mind.
Tyler
You won.
Mike
No. Start screaming brain and know how to take a human being to the ground and handcuff them on the ground in a safe place. Tase them. Tase them. If you're that serious about it.
Tyler
So you're the whole thing. I just want to know. The whole thing you're taking from this is the fact that they need to train bjj.
Mike
No, I'm taking that the large picture
Tyler
of what just happened in our country
Mike
picture is the cops. The tyrannical cops that drug a marine out of there for saying something about Israel. Which is exactly what we talk about on this show all the time. That's is. They got so tunnel visioned. That guy was not. He was not gonna kill anybody, was not going to harm it. Did he need to be removed? Sure. Take him into the corner, take him to the ground. Take him down right there. Do all your distractionary blows. Do it right there on the ground to try to drag him out. What is the point of dragging him out? A guy who's just yelling, Take him into custody. I have no problem with using force. I'm not. Don't, don't go. I'm not going. Don't touch him. Don't hit him, don't strike him. Maybe he needed to be struck, but do it right where you're at. What? They don't know what they're doing. They're just dragging him out because he's yelling and he grabs the door. You have to be conscious.
Tyler
Maybe it was a mix of like, I really. I get what this guy's doing, right. I'm a cop, okay? I'm getting. He's a Marine. And it starts with the whole get back. And you think he's going to play the game. He's getting to get it out.
DC
Okay?
Tyler
You're like, he's a uniform Marine. I'm a cop with a man bun. I do not deserve to be putting my hands on this guy. But it is my job, correct? So one of those things where you're like, all right. And then you know when you're on scene and you're giving somebody the passive, like, get back. And they're like, they're complying, but they want to get their point. And it's just easier for you to go, okay, get your point. Go.
Mike
Good, good.
Tyler
And then it escalated. And then maybe you're right, it did escalate.
Mike
And I'm not saying he didn't need to be removed. Don't get, don't take me there. But you still have to maintain professionalism and some type of awareness of your scenario situation. If you're that worked up about a Marine yelling about Israel that you don't notice his hand is wedged between a door and you snap his wrist, what happens when he pulls out a gun or he actually starts resisting and punching you? Are you prepared to deal with that? That was that. That situation was only chaotic due to words. He wasn't hitting anybody. He wasn't punching anybody. He was being loud and obnoxious. That's all he was being. Does he need to go to jail?
Tyler
Sure.
Mike
He's got to get out of there. I'm not saying he Has a right to do it. But you can't be that tunnel visioned as a cop to not notice little things like this dude's arm is wedged between the door and I'm gonna snap it because he's yelling about Israel. Is he right?
Tyler
Wrong.
Mike
Indifferent.
Tyler
I'm not lying, dude. When I. When it's. When it's game time, I don't care. If you put yourself in a situation and you're resisting me, I. It's not my job. If he starts punching himself in the face, is that your fault too? No, he did it to himself.
Mike
That's fine.
Tyler
He. He did.
Mike
He punched himself in the face.
Tyler
But he got his hand stuck in the door. Correct. On his own doing. But that's the cop's fault.
Mike
No, I'm not saying it's a cop's fault, but do you think what he was doing was so egregious that you had to rush him out of a hearing? Stop the hearing, dude. It's a bunch of jerk off politicians yapping about nothing. Escort them all out. You know what? Dismissed. Everybody go in the back. Everybody move. We're gonna deal with this. There's a lot of things that can happen, but if you don't notice, if you're that locked in to a guy screaming. My point of this is, if you're that locked into a guy just yelling, what happens when a guy really wants to fight you and you're. Are you aware of what's going on? I'm not blaming the cops for even breaking his. I'm just saying you. There's a lot of things that could have happened. What were they doing? They were like half tackling them, half wrestling them.
Tyler
I'm gonna bring on Ryan because Ryan would say, you're pretty activated, my bro. Yeah, that's what he would say. Ryan, can you hear us?
Mike
I can.
Ryan
And I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you so much for having me here.
Tyler
Absolutely, man.
Mike
Sir.
Tyler
So your opinion? I honestly thought this was like the perfect video for us to break down and maybe debate and possibly agree on some things. You have. You have a lot in common with this Marine in the sense that you are a Marine and you are very anti war. I'm assuming you're anti this. I don't think we've even talked to you since Iran kicked off, to be honest with you. I think it kicked off after last year. We are. Yeah. So what's your thoughts on this?
Ryan
I think it is important that. Okay, well, I don't think that we should bomb any country if we Cannot pronounce its name.
Tyler
Oh, sorry.
Ryan
Iran is pronounced Iran.
Mike
It doesn't. I'm still gonna order the sandwich. It's Iran, but okay.
Tyler
Iran. All right. Iran.
Ryan
Iran.
Mike
Iran. Yeah.
Ryan
And here we are in, you know, the midst of another morally bankrupt US Intervention. I think it's called what Operation Epstein Fury.
Mike
That could be. That would be very accurate. I think I agree with you on that one.
Ryan
So you know, our rip to those needless casualties for the depraved genocidal Zionists and the Epstein class investors of the military industrial complex.
Tyler
What's your take on the video, though? That we just broke down.
Ryan
Land of the free, home of the brave. Am I right? I think that. God bless that courageous Marine veteran for leveraging his uniform items to bring attention to his buzz.
Tyler
Oh, Ryan, did you pay your. Your electric bill? Yeah, you got.
Mike
We got.
Tyler
We got you frozen, brother. You're technically your. Your neighbors is yours too, so you can use theirs.
Mike
We'll get to that. But yeah. This is the first time we've talked to him since. I figured that's where it was going because I.
Tyler
We talked to him Thursday and I ran. Kicked off. I want to. Saturday morning. Yeah.
Mike
How do you feel about that point? Like, to me, that's like when you put there there wrong, and that's the only argument somebody has is that you spelled there.
DC
They're wrong.
Mike
Right. All right, good. And you look better. You always look good, but the connection is better. Beautiful.
Tyler
Thank you.
Mike
That's a different hat. Hold on, let me see the hat.
Tyler
Oh, bear upside down. All right.
Mike
All right, good.
Ryan
And I am in a monogamous, loving relationship, so I'm sorry I'm off the market, but thank you. You know, I want to say like, God bless this courageous Marine veteran for leveraging his uniform items to bring attention to this cause. I've been protesting for a very long time and the police are by far the most violent group at any protest that I've attended. So I'm not surprised that excessive force was used in this incident. You know, I'm not surprised that this Marine's hand was broken while just simply trying to resist this morally bankrupt, Zionist led occupation and intervention.
Tyler
I mean, I kind of figured that would be your take. Do you think that it's fair? Do you. Okay, let's. Let me ask you this. Do you think there needs to be. I think I'm answering my own thing. You think the systems are corrupt, it's totally morally bankrupt, but that the process of congress and all this government work. Do you think it's okay for people to just stand up and start screaming? Or do you believe in the process of we need to do this the right way? Like. Like it was. Like it was erected 250 years ago. Sure.
Ryan
Are you familiar with Citizens United?
Tyler
I am not.
Ryan
This was a Supreme Court decision that makes corporate contributions to political campaigns as First Amendment freedom of speech. So when we're talking about, like, freedom and democracy, I think we got to bring up Citizens United, where corporations have way more leverage than the average citizen does in the political process. I think that there are institutions like voting, like public comment, that serve to perpetuate the illusion of proletariat participation.
Tyler
Right. Okay.
Ryan
Here, citizen, here's your vote you get every two years. Okay, citizen, come to the city council meeting. You got two minutes. Go ahead. All right, now get back to work, peasant.
Mike
Yeah, I, you know, I actually agree right across the board on that because, you know, we elect these people. They're our voice. But anytime you see anybody try to get in there and actually use their voice, because, hey, I want to say something, too. I pay taxes. I go to work every day. Every council meeting gives you a limited time, and you'll get drug out. We watched the Long Island Hard to do it. We've watched other people get drug out of public forums, not for being violent, not for being whatever. But you've now given me the Constitution, gives me a freedom of speech. But you've restricted that freedom of speech to two minutes, where you get all the time in the world to make every decision you want. You're funded by the government, you're using our tax dollars however you want, but I get to walk in, say my name. And part of the two minutes is me introducing myself, having to say my name and where I'm from. And then I get a minute and 30 seconds to get out a point that I might have been stewing on that's affecting my family, taxes, whatever the issue may be, and then go, okay, go ahead. You're out of here. And if you try to go over that two minutes, they'll drag you out of there just like that Marine and arrest you for disrupting their meeting. But you. We are the people. We are the ones that fund the nation. We're the ones of the backbone of the nation. It's not some dude that got elected in sitting in some chair that's doing all kinds of who knows what. So I agree that you to restrict the voice of the people to two minutes. When we are the people, the thing starts, we the people. We the People, But I go in and get drug out because I go over 10 seconds over my time. Sorry, bud, you're out of here. Come back next week. It's that part of the system, to me, is broken. And I don't think that people get enough time to talk and to really give their opinion.
Ryan
Thank you so much for like, validating this idea. And the gentle kind of amendment I would invite you to consider is that the system is not broken. Like, the system works really well for how it was designed. Is designed for, you know, upper class property owners, the wealthy, to, you know, make the rules right or to achieve their wealth through some sort of, you know, morally questionable, to be like, nice method. And then they change the laws behind them so no one can do it afterward.
Tyler
Here we are.
Ryan
Land of the free.
Mike
Yeah. How do you know how your last. The people that represent this area of Congress, you know how they voted, you know what they voted for or for. You don't know.
Dominic Izzo
We don't know any of that.
Mike
You don't. We don't pay attention. They get elected. We don't ever hold them accountable. They don't come back to the community and say, hey, everybody, you're my district. I'm going to sit down, I'm going to actually listen to what this district wants me to do. No, they're going to take the money from this guy, the big pharma, this construction company wants to build a building. They're going to listen to them and go, I better. I better vote to erect that building or I'm going to be out of here.
Tyler
Here's the thing. I mean, when you push people like that, I mean, Ryan, I've never asked you, this is kind of a general, broad take, but what's your. What is your leaning towards January 6th? Do you think it was a merciless insurrection or do you think it was some people that were pissed off and they just showed up and the government really took it out of context?
Ryan
Yeah, this is a good question. I think, like, January 6th was. There was a lot of, like, fascists in attendance. Right. There was literal swastikas and neo Nazi T shirts and things like that.
Tyler
Right.
Ryan
So I think that was definitely problematic. And me, I've helped shut down freeways here in Oakland. I've shut down.
Tyler
Thank you for your service, Ryan.
Ryan
Yeah, so I mean, there is a sort of tactic that is like, no business as usual. You know, we shut down the Port of Oakland during Occupy Oakland and there is a tactic that is no business as usual. So, you know, let me Ask you this right? If January 6th, instead of my answer real quick, real quick, like if January 6th was not a bunch of like disgruntled middle aged white boys and it was instead like black lives matter, folks, how do you think the police would have responded? The military would have responded?
Tyler
How do you think the public would
Ryan
have responded to January 6th?
Tyler
If it was primarily a black protest? There would have been more fire engines needed than police. I would imagine black communities and black culture have shown a propensity to burn and be very prone to violence rather than what I saw January 6th. So I didn't see. Now granted there was the inside where that co like there where somebody got shot and all that stuff. And then it spun a bunch of different narratives like the oppressive government, the oppressive capital. Police shot this guy that was just coming through a door. Then we heard no, they were breaking through windows and the cops were barricaded. They had no other way out. I heard all kinds of crazy stuff. But as far as just the peaceful moving through their building, I'm gonna go with Yalls argument. That's our building. Yeah, that's our building. We own that. We the people own that. If I want to peacefully stroll now, I understand, I'm not a crazy person like you guys. I understand there's law and order. I understand we can't go through that building.
Mike
But law and order take it.
Tyler
Law and order means.
Ryan
Law and order is also like a racist dog whistle. You know, instead of being overt in terms of like, hey, we want to put all the black and brown people in prison. We say things like law and order. And you bring up a really important point that I think is important to apply some discernment toward this idea of property destruction as violence. And that is absolutely false. Okay? Violence is harm to a human being. It is not harm to a global bank or an ATM machine or a McDonald's. That is not violent. That is destructiveness. Absolutely. It is absolutely nonviolent. And if you'll notice, responsible community members will target that reasonable youthful destructiveness to global corporations and banks, not small mom and pop businesses.
Tyler
Well, I, I did not see that. In fact, I saw blacks burning black owned businesses. And that was the whole point of black people coming on going, my entire life is now gone because the youth in my community burn it down. But that being said, do you think that maybe as a someone that refuses to own property or hasn't been allowed to own property or provided the opportunity to own property, that you wouldn't really understand that burning property, although you don't think is violence is taking away from somebody's livelihood.
Ryan
I like what you said about Ben. Prevented from owning property. Right. And if we're talking about redlining, if we're talking about how, like, the GI Bill wasn't available to black troops. Right. For decades. So there are systemic forces that do prevent people from accessing security.
Tyler
Right. Home.
Ryan
Home housing and security. And one of the biggest obstacles to that housing security is investment banks and venture capitalists like BlackRock outbidding families on starter homes.
Mike
No, I agree with that.
Tyler
Yeah. I mean, we all. When you, when you bring up blackrock, you're bringing the room together. I promise you that. But I mean, do you refuse? Like, let's say somebody gave you 30 grand. 30 grand. Do what you want. Do what you want. 30 grand from me to you. Would you put all that 30 grand into your communities that you're trying to build and your charities that you work for? And I've pinned it. Compassionate veteran.org is pinned in the comments if you guys want to go check it out. Would you donate all your money to that or would you actually be like, oh, I'm gonna put a down payment on a house. Dude, this is awesome. And then because would you take property if it was provided to you? The means were given to you?
Ryan
I think property ownership is one of the fundamental problems in this country. I think that it's curious about 90% of Chinese folks, like, own their housing. So, yeah, I think property ownership is problematic. What I would do with 30 grand? That's a good question. I probably blow a bunch of it on, you know, stupid stuff. And if we're talking about $30,000 and a down payment on housing, we're definitely not talking about California, my friend.
Tyler
I know that's fair.
Ryan
I don't know why I would want
Tyler
to live anywhere else. As soon as I said that, I was like, that's not a very big down payment.
Mike
No. Well, you gotta. You gotta take care of the homeless and drug addicts on the street. You can't. That's a lot of the taxes go to that.
Tyler
Oh, great.
Ryan
Glad you brought that up too, my man. Because for every single unhoused citizen in the city of San Francisco, there are six vacant empty housing units nationwide. It's greater than 20 to 1. Right. So until we can look at the moral and mental deficiencies of landlords, we're never going to aim at the right target.
Tyler
How about this?
Mike
If we get the right investor, this is a great reality show. We'll go out there, I'll come We'll come out there and we'll put, like, seven of those homeless people in a very nice brand new home, and then we'll monitor it and see how well they flourish when they're giving good housing.
Tyler
Yeah, you could.
Mike
That would be a great show.
Tyler
You could admit that, Ryan, that they're too far gone as addicts, that they couldn't be given anything nice. Right. I mean, that's.
Mike
No, maybe not.
Ryan
Yeah, this is a good question. Do you guys know what SROs are? Single residence occupancies. This is basically like housing first policies. This is where we put folks off the street into sort of apartment buildings with, like, a front desk clerk and strict access. Are you guys familiar with SROs?
Mike
It sounds like stuff we have here, like halfway houses or something to go, but not that specific name.
Tyler
Sure, sure, sure.
Ryan
So this is something that we are doing here in San Francisco and through major cities throughout the country, where we are putting folks from the street into a shoebox into not much more than a jail sale.
Tyler
Right.
Ryan
And then we put all these sort of restrictions on their guests, on their access, and there are major barriers to thriving when we're putting human beings in what's been described as human warehouses. And then when we put people in these shoeboxes and tell them to live in these housing units that were not designed for permanent residency. They were designed for cheap hotels, an overnight stay, maybe prostitution, even a really brief stay. And then we put these diagnoses on these people, like hoarding. Right. When we put them in a shoebox. Right. And then we say, oh, yeah, these people cannot live, you know, responsibly. When wealthy people can hoard as much as they want, they can collect properties and cars and stuff, their McMansions.
Mike
With your scenario, the housing was given to them. In the rich people scenario, they paid for everything out of their own pockets.
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
Yeah.
Ryan
Due to exploiting working class labor and natural resources.
Mike
I get it. Yeah.
Tyler
Well, I mean, at the end of the day, somebody did comment in here who is. Well, I don't know if they want to say, but he's law enforcement around your area, and he stated that in. A good point is that a lot of these people don't want housing because a lot of the housing requires you to be clean. Do you think that they should be provided housing even with current addictions that they suffer from?
Ryan
Yes. And I would avoid the term clean because what is the clean opposite of clean up?
Tyler
Dirty?
Ryan
And then that's like stigmatizing.
Tyler
Yeah.
Ryan
I come from a harm reduction perspective, which means I love drugs, and I love people that use drugs. And let's be real, white people.
Mike
Yeah.
Ryan
Rich people use drugs just as much as poor people do.
Mike
Okay.
Ryan
And let's talk about the different in punishment. Different in punishment disparities between powder cocaine and crack cocaine that was invented by the CIA.
Tyler
I do believe that. And it was introduced into our streets. Yep. Another thing that we could probably. We'll have to have one episode where we just all. We pick things that we agree on and we talk about it. And you wouldn't think there's so many disagreements between us, but I do, at the end of the day. Yeah. What kind of. What kind of music do you like, Ryan? I want to get to know Ryan a little bit. Do you like. I'm assuming you like music. You're of that culture. Do you like rock and roll? What do you like?
Ryan
I probably like hip hop, trap mostly. I like a lot of instrumental music. Jazz. I like. I'm a hell of a dancer, believe it or not. So I like to dance. Like, dance music. I like most things, except I'm not a big fan of, like, country music. I went to my first rave recently, which was fantastic. I tried 2 CB, a synthetic psychedelic. It was fantastic. So, yeah, I think I love a lot of music.
Tyler
Okay. I didn't. I didn't really do. And you don't say the N word right. When that. When that N word comes across you.
Ryan
Absolutely. And you know what? Like, I do a lot of, like, Instagram stories. Probably spend too much time on it, but when I'm even curating the songs that I choose to go along with my stories, I'll intentionally avoid the N word because this word isn't for me. It's not for us.
Mike
Gentlemen, Young Dolph.
Tyler
Oh, I bet. Oh, I bet.
Mike
Rest in peace, young Dolph. Killed in his own hometown by a black male. Terrible.
Tyler
And my last question for you. Well, it's not really a question. I was watching that Marine video. Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Ryan
This whole kind of idea of, like, black on black crime is another kind of racist trope because most people that are murdered are murdered by their own race. This is just uniforms. Like, why don't we talk about white crime?
Mike
Theirs is just disproportionately higher. Nobody cares with that.
Tyler
Nobody.
Mike
Yeah, you don't care about, like.
Ryan
Like, white boys disproportionately shoot up schools and movie theaters?
Tyler
No. Transgender white boys.
Mike
What about the black guy that. The Iranian. The pro Iran guy that killed a bunch of white people at that shooting in Texas, we glaze over that one.
Ryan
We cannot continue to slaughter the Muslim world and then be surprised when there's some sort of retaliation. And also like, let's not, let's not forget about like false flag.
Tyler
Okay.
Ryan
And how like a lot of times these Zios will like spray paint anti Semitic stuff on their own buildings.
Tyler
Right.
Ryan
So like let's have a little bit more discernment, a little more critical awareness.
Mike
Yeah. And you know, just Black History Month was last month. Right. And in the Chicago, there were 108 people shot during Black History Month.
Tyler
That's it.
Mike
That's it. In their own, in the, in their own community.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
Shot and killed.
Tyler
Maybe they're doing better.
Mike
83 shot and wounded. That's terrible. I don't know. You can go to a white neighborhood and find, oh, 108 killed. 108, 108 total shot.
Tyler
How many were killed?
Mike
30.
Ryan
Where does redlining come into your analysis? Where do communities that are under resourced and over policed come into your analysis?
Mike
Sometimes they're very over police if they're shooting each other at an astronomical rate. Sounds like the police are not around, I would think. I don't know, I can go around a lot of places and say I don't think I could kill 26 people this month in this area without a cop getting me. But 108 people shot in one neighborhood in one city in America. Disproportionate.
Ryan
Hey, I am not surprised to sit on a podcast with police officers and they're going to bring up black Chicago crime.
Tyler
This is.
Mike
And I'm not surprised if you, I
Ryan
don't ignore it, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna acknowledge the historical, the systemic, the political, the economic factors that have contributed to these circumstances on our streets.
Mike
And here. And here we are today where they have they. Everything is skewed the other way. And in the, and in this community where police can't go, you say they're over police. Police can't go in to Chicago. There's neighborhoods in Chicago police cannot drive through. We've showed video after video of middle aged young, young black males with automatic weapons where the police could not possibly go into that area. So I think it's very under policed, if you want my opinion. Because how do you take that back over?
Ryan
That's exactly the thing. Take over is a big part of the problem. And so this is where a lot of street gangs in California came from, was as resistance to police brutality in their neighborhoods. You guys never heard of the zoot suit Riots in Los Angeles.
Mike
Let's. And I will give you. Please, you know what?
Dominic Izzo
From your.
Mike
I will give you that. From. From many years ago. Horrible, right? And now they've had a. On the scale that you're thinking it is. Yes. The world is a better place. The problem, I would think black on black crime is far, far. Causes far more deaths to black males than police brutality. And if you can. There's no way you can tell me it doesn't.
Ryan
And where does white on white crime?
Mike
Everyone, every race. They don't kill as many people in a year that just. In Chicago basically almost killed themselves in. In their one community. So that. That's.
Ryan
Are you saying that black people.
Tyler
We're not getting anything.
Ryan
Are you saying that cops do not. Disproportionately.
Tyler
That's on us. Hey, Ryan, hold on one second. We got to fix some audio. Do your thing, Louis.
Ryan
Thank you, Louis.
Tyler
Check, check. Radio check. Louis,
Mike
Go ahead.
Tyler
Can you talk now?
Ryan
What I will say, because we are at the end of my time here, is that these conversations are so important. And I do believe that the more we engage in them, the more we realize that we have things in common more than we disagree about. So I just want to appreciate you guys for
Tyler
conversations. I have a question in your. Real quick. You believe that we can all identify as what we want, no matter what. If I identify as something, that is my choice. And you support that, right?
DC
No.
Tyler
What? Why?
Mike
Because you're a white man. You're a white male.
Ryan
You want to identify as a fire truck? Like what are you trying to identify as my guy? Anything.
Tyler
Yeah. Am I. If I. If I identified as a female, are you gonna support that? Sure. Okay.
Ryan
I think if. Mark, if this is your religious faith, looks good on you. That. Damn. That hairline is kind of struggling. I think that's why we all wear hats.
Mike
He did it to himself. He did it to himself. All right, we appreciate it, Ryan. Thank you so much. And I would like to. I think we have some other. Like Cece and Dom, I think. Would you be down for like a. A four way debate with like some of our guys in like a. Its own show?
Tyler
Every single person that contributes to this network wants to debate.
Mike
Yeah. So I think what we do is. I think without. And they're all very reasonable. They would. Everybody would talk. But I think that would be a great, like a. Maybe a Tuesday to fill in like
Tyler
a. Ryan, with the schedule history with you.
Mike
We'll get your schedule, but I would like to see some of our. We have some contributors that would love to talk to you and I think it would be very productive. That's great.
Ryan
You have my email. I look forward to the, the contract and the wages and thank you for the generosity in advance.
Mike
We appreciate it, man. Thank you so much for coming on.
Ryan
Right on, gentlemen. Peace.
Tyler
All right, later. All right. We will be right back with Dominic Izzo after this quick commercial break.
Mike
Come on, Lewis.
Tyler
Come on, Lewis.
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Mike
Yeah, you do. And you get custom merch.
Tyler
I'm thinking about giving the tier the. The Big tier, a big counterculture discount that drop shipping companies just are not going to be able to compete with that. I'd like to see what I like
Mike
said that because I have patches at home just for those guys.
Tyler
Well sometimes, sometimes when ship you have things coming from like multiple areas. You got to pay shipping a couple times it's okay. A couple shipping customer. Everything comes from in house from Tyler to you with a hand signed note.
Mike
Yep, yep.
Tyler
Shirts that I bag, it might be
Mike
a tank top, might be a hoodie, might be a T shirt as people like to point out. But if you order for me, you only pay shipping once. Even if there's multiple locations. I eat the shipping and it's packed
Tyler
by Sing Tang Young and he's seven. We'll bring five cents an hour.
Mike
We would bring Tyler's shirt guy in but he's down at 7:11 right now working so he'll be in. My goodness, my goodness.
Tyler
No bar too low for Mike. All right, Dominic Izzo, you're going way
Mike
too fast for Lewis. There he is. You would have been nice, Dom.
Dominic Izzo
I have no desire to debate him and I'm tell you why he is, he is the foundational, foundational concept of my political views. Everything he said is fantastic. When it comes to free housing and you want to do your drugs, all this stuff, everything he says is fan tastic. But you have a polarizing side. It's completely delusional to try to attempt any of that. That guy, I actually feel bad for him because he's riding, he's riding so, so hard on his beliefs. He's got to triple down on everything. I mean, yeah, you got to go on the black on black crime. I was sitting there and listening to that aspect of it. If, if you can't, you can't respond with well, whites are school shooters. Well, yeah, two things could be true at the same time. And if whites shot up schools at the ratio and rate that blacks shot up their own neighborhood, we'd have no kids tomorrow. Yeah, it's as simple as that. The bad part about it is is that guy is going to, he's going to live so hardcore in his beliefs that when he's faced the reality of opposition where, I don't know, he creates an own community of free autonomous living. We're all community. We all, everybody gets equal this, equal that and free housing or whatever, and then you find out the basic fundamental human nature of greed and coveting and, and yeah, you may have gotten this for free. And you see human behavior, he's Gonna have the, the, the most horrible wake up call. And I think he's a ticking time bomb.
Mike
If you built that. If we, if we did what I said, if we took. If we took, we all. If I won the lottery tomorrow and I said, I'm gonna buy 50 houses in that neighborhood, box it off, and I'm gonna bring all those people in, it would be like Walking Dead. Within like a year there would be.
Tyler
Within a day there would be a
Mike
group that takes over. They would run the whole camp and eventually they'd be dead and they'd be out trying to go right back where they started, right back where they started, leaving the compound to go find food because they'd be all gone. You could give it to them. You could give them everything they wanted and it would turn into the Walking Dead immediately.
Dominic Izzo
There's. Walking Dead is a great show. People think it's a zombie show.
Mike
It's not.
Dominic Izzo
Walking Dead represents what happens when society goes to. It's like every time somebody wants something in America to happen, you know they want. Like when you're talking about January 6th and whatnot and you're backing up. When I asked this for, I don't know, one podcast a couple years ago, I said, okay, when, when the hits the fan and everything, everything's done and we've protested and we've taken our country back, which blue check mark are you going to follow? Because now you got them all, right? All your conservative big million follower blue check marks. They've all got their own people. Well, who's going to be head of that group? Or are you going to have 20 or 30 now factions, all. You know, you got Republicans and Democrats separate now you got 20 or 30 Republicans that are in fighting and whatnot. Who's the strongest? Who's going to survive? So I feel bad that guy's going to wake up one day and. And his rage is going to take him the over.
Mike
What did you think about the Marine video?
Dominic Izzo
I thought it was disgusting. And I thought, to be honest, it's more proof that cops are dictated by their paychecks. It is what it is. We saw it during the pass.
Tyler
Does he get a pass because he's in dress blues or what's the deal? Is it because he's a Marine?
Dominic Izzo
What was, what was the crime?
Tyler
Trespassing?
Dominic Izzo
What was the.
Mike
Was there?
Dominic Izzo
Did he trespass?
Tyler
Well, they wanted him out.
Mike
Eventually became trespassing, I would think, but originally it would probably be like, I
Tyler
don't know what the laws are in
Dominic Izzo
D.C. okay, so if there's two ways to look at it. Are these glorified, like, security guards? Are they actual cops?
Tyler
I think they're glorified court deputies. Capitol Police is not. But first off, the cops. What cop means to me is different. And Capitol Police are not cops. They're not out there getting dope, warrants, guns.
Mike
No, this is their. This is their dope gun and warrant. We got a resistor. We got somebody that's talking out about us again.
Dominic Izzo
So if that's the case, what was the offense? What was the criminal crime he committed at minimal.
Mike
Could be, like, disrupt whatever the version of it is.
Dominic Izzo
Disorderly conduct.
Tyler
You like my. I always say, we don't know. There's no context. But I would like to imagine there was already something set in stone. They knew this guy was coming. There was some kind of intel that he was going to do what he did. And they were like, as soon as he opens his mouth and stands up, take him out. And that's why there was no negotiation. There was no. Sir, calm down. Sir, please come outside with me. It went from what it looks like now. There's no context and there's no video before him, but it looks like it. Just like that. And so that's probably what it was. Is that so? Yeah.
Dominic Izzo
And you got the cops who are the henchmen of the government. This is why the cops are stupid. The cops should have sat there and said, wait a second. You want to use us as pawns again? Have you not been seeing what's been going on in the media? We went through what we went through in 2020, the lockdowns. People hate us. They think we're doing X, Y, and Z. You got a problem with this, then let it do it. Let us do it our way. Let him finish his speech and then go, what? What did he take time? Is that the crime? That he robbed somebody of their time? Now, I know that the precedence is set then. Well, if you let him do it, you got to let everybody do it. Talk about law and order. But this is one of those cases. Then you have to. You have to have a completely separate uniform. Then if it's court, then those guys got to be all in black suits, a security guard. They look at it look like that. The fact that they were even remotely associated with police makes it look like police are trampling on free speech.
Mike
And who looks bad, it's the police.
Tyler
Well, I. I'm a firm believer.
Mike
Look bad.
Tyler
I'm a firm believer. I said this when Tyree Kill was pulled over. If cops are going to think, they think, they are going to blanket cover everything the same way. No matter if it's a crackhead or a celebrity, that cop is not a good thinker. Because at the end of the day, oh, this is a decorated marine in dress blues doing something on purpose. Maybe we should react a little bit differently because the video is going to come out of us breaking his hand in uniform.
Mike
And if he starts to get violent, there's. Then you increase your violence. There's. There's no problem with that. But at the simple fact that he's yelling.
Tyler
I know, but I. But I noticed right now, depending on your argument, Mike, it's. You increase violence when they start to increase violence.
Mike
Yes.
Tyler
But some other things, like when we break down Jerry Worms video, you laugh and joke and you say violence stops.
Mike
I say, more course now is less force later.
Tyler
So maybe that's what they were doing.
Mike
They didn't even start. They went right to hands on. Like, hey, man, look, I understand. I agree with. Come on, dude, Verbal. This is where the dumbest thing ever
Tyler
said respond to Verbal.
Dominic Izzo
You start bumping.
Mike
Come on, man, let's go. Keep talking. You can keep screaming it. Just start moving. At least try it.
Dominic Izzo
How about let him finish. Let him finish. Get him out, you're done. What would have been the problem?
Tyler
He would have. But maybe he was looking for a viral. That is actually a tactic that I.
Dominic Izzo
I've employed that then go.
Tyler
I've been. I've employed that. It was 20 people did a march inside a mall. They were like, they were like, protest. They were Islamic or Muslims or something. They were protesting Apple. They walked in in front of the Apple store and started protesting. Their representative came up to me and said, hey, man, we're going to be four to four and a half minutes. We're cutting a viral clip. We're going to be out of here, no problems. And I go, all right, go ahead. I let him do it. They walked out of the mall and I just let the watch commander know. I'm like, hey, just tell intelligence that. Sure, they. They cut a video making it look like there was 500 of them and they took over a mall. They were in there 20, 25 of them for four minutes and they were out. And I just let them do it. And my job is keeping them all safe was done.
Mike
So you just are. You made your own argument?
Tyler
Like, no, I'm saying I can see all sides.
Mike
That's what I'm saying. But it's like, like I'm a real cop.
Tyler
I can I don't just jump ship.
Mike
Oh, my God.
Tyler
On my ideas and my beliefs.
Dominic Izzo
Oh, my God.
Mike
Anyway, anyway, if you're a real cop, then you don't really need to break a dude's hand over him yelling. You would be able to use some other. He broke his own hand. You would be able to use some other tactics to get rid of him, I think. And it looks better even if, even if you broke his hand, but you use the other tactics first. Like Domino's. I'm like, hey, man, give yourself. Give him 30 seconds. All right, buddy? Hey, man, I'm trying to, like, get you out of here. Let's go, let's go. He's not violent. He was never violent. Never, never violent. He was yelling.
Dominic Izzo
No. Cops got political at that point.
Tyler
They should have beat him with night sticks. Just did the whole thing. Just made it.
Ryan
Just made it a scene.
Dominic Izzo
He wasn't.
Mike
They should have just kneeled on his neck. Just kneel on his neck.
Tyler
Get over with a couple super chats. Jay Sanders says, cheers, Tyler for the delivery. Sorted out with the shirts complaint retract. Did. Thank you. Clint says, oh, my goodness. Izzo rides one of those giant front wheel bikes like the Harley fair.
Dominic Izzo
The ball gag in your mother's mouth when I'm doing it from behind.
Mike
His ne would love that.
Tyler
And Justin, donut shop says cops don't break hands. Doors break hands. Thank you, Justin. Yeah.
Mike
Anyway, so you think. What do you think about the Israel part of it? I don't.
Dominic Izzo
I'm so tired of being the world's police.
Tyler
What do you think about the Jews?
Mike
The message was about Israel. So what about that? What's the verbal part of it? Let's talk about that.
Dominic Izzo
I don't. And I'm not. I don't support Israel. I don't support anything that's outside of the borders of the United States. It's pretty simple as that. I'm a Christ follower. Sorry. The Jews are not God's children. Those people read Romans for the love of God. Paul explains it pretty clearly. We are the chosen people. So it is what it is. So no, I. I have no support for Israel.
Mike
And tell us about the new show format you're doing tomorrow night. You got a little different. You're having guests now, right? On Friday nights, having some people on,
Dominic Izzo
gonna be talking about some stuff. And because I know people want to hear more than just my big mouth.
Tyler
You know what? I. I commend people that. I mean, we've talked and you've openly talked about it. How the Only person that you can really trust is yourself. And so you go into business with yourself, you set up your own show and you, I don't know, have you always been the type of personality from day one that can talk for an hour straight and be confident and be clear and. Or did that. Was that a learned skill? Because if you put a camera on me for an hour.
Dominic Izzo
I started when Facebook Live started going. It was right when I was campaigning, so 2018. And I, I actually got started in this because of Joe Biggs. Joe Biggs. I was, we were connected on Facebook and he was doing his lives and I told him, I sent him a text, I said, hey, if you flip this button here, it'll. It'll right way your shirt so it doesn't read backwards. And he goes, hey, because you, I've seen you do like you. You. I was doing cigar in a car. I would have a cigar in my car and answer people's questions about law enforcement. He goes, you've ever thought about doing radio?
Tyler
I go, no.
Dominic Izzo
Anyways, he got me in touch with a, an Internet radio company and, and they said, you know, do you, do you want to do a show? I said, absolutely.
Mike
Go.
Dominic Izzo
They want. An hour or two hour ago.
Tyler
Oh, two hours.
Dominic Izzo
Two hours. So the format, because it was Internet radio, Instead of like eight minute breaks, it was an opening 27 minutes, three and a half minute break, 27 minutes, four minute break, 27 minutes reading that. So I had four 27 minute blocks to do and I would just talk and I didn't know what it was called because I'm an external processor. If you ask me a question, I, I don't think first and then answer. My thoughts generated out of my mouth create my answer. So you could say, hey, you know, have you ever seen this band? And I'll give you a 20 minute dissertation when the word yes suffices. So the guy who owned the station, Doc Thompson, he had said that he goes, oh, because you're doing a stream of consciousness show.
Mike
I go, what?
Dominic Izzo
Yeah, you're doing a stream of consciousness. What the.
Mike
Is that?
Dominic Izzo
Because you're just, you're talking your thoughts out. So, yeah, to be honest, it's. Yeah, it's always been a case and it's nothing. It's nothing more than the ability to externally process my thoughts. That's it.
Tyler
Okay. All right. And then somebody asked, are they. You are wearing pants?
Dominic Izzo
The you.
Tyler
They want to know.
Dominic Izzo
It's.
Tyler
They want to know if you actually dress up nice for every show or if you're Just dressing for the. You know when you take a pic in like the military where they just drape you it, they put the jacket on you and you're inboard school.
Mike
When I graduate airborne school, they're like, here, put this on, put this on.
Tyler
But you're in silkies.
Mike
Yeah.
Dominic Izzo
To be honest, Yeah. I am in dress lax. And here's why being an entrepreneur is one of the hardest jobs in the world. Because it's so damn easy to get distracted by what's online, what's in the fridge, this and that. And I, that's why I stand when I do podcasts and I can't sit otherwise I'll get distracted. So I found out that if I'm only dressed from the waist up appropriately, I don't take seriously. So I dress full suited in the house doing my job.
Tyler
That is.
Mike
Not only does he dress like if he dresses to the occasion. Occasion on my thumbnail. Like if I thumbnail it a certain way, he comes out completely in character at his own. At his, at his own.
Dominic Izzo
Like a hundred ties and almost thirteen suits.
Mike
I gotta send you. I got a good time for you. I'm send you one. I gotta send you one. I got a great one for you. I sent it to Sal. Sal's got one.
Tyler
What's that video that you said you were gonna play yesterday but you didn't.
Mike
That was that one.
Tyler
The Marine.
Mike
Yeah, yeah, I saw it last night. Last thing. Dominic, tell us about your version of loyalty because I know how you are and how you've been screwed over. Tell. Give it to me.
Dominic Izzo
Nothing more important. Loyalty is the most important thing. It's not respect. It's not anything. All those other things come with loyalty because yeah, you can kind of respect somebody, but you can't be 100 loyal. You can, you can loyalty. You got to respect me a little bit this much, right? So loyalty is, is the most important thing out there to me.
DC
It's.
Dominic Izzo
It's as simple as that.
Tyler
Good.
Mike
And I'm glad we're, we're. We're on the same page with that. We've. We've become very close. You in the show and like I always joke that I. My version of meeting Dom was some loud voice coming out of my wife's phone yelling and screaming. And I'm like, who the is this guy? Like, what is he yelling about? And then we met and we found out we have a lot in common. Yeah, it sucks.
Dominic Izzo
Now I was talking to Rachel about it the other day. I had some guy at the gym come Up. He's like, dude, I love your. And I. I find myself just going, thanks. And I move on. And I know I'm like, I don't mean to be a dick, but at this point, I don't know who is saying, hey, I love your to my face, but how many times have you been a to me in my comment section?
Mike
You actually came. We actually. You had. We had that. We had to iron that out at first because you had a lot of meme pages that were very nasty to you. And one of your first statements was to me was, aren't you one of the. That came after me? I'm like, nah, dog, not me. And then we. We've become. That was about a year and a half ago, and we've been straight ever since. So I. I appreciate you, Dom. You're a great, great. You're loyal. You're very loyal. I mean, you're. By definition.
Tyler
I don't have to ever wonder if I had to model. If somebody asked me about the perfect loyal, like the perfect model for loyalty, I would say, Dominic, is it?
DC
Yeah.
Mike
Yep. 100.
Dominic Izzo
That means a lot. I appreciate that.
Mike
Yep. We appreciate it, Dominic. We'll see ya. We'll check out your new show tomorrow.
Tyler
8.
Mike
Yeah, tomorrow.
Dominic Izzo
Believe it or not, I got touch base again, but I've got Miranda shoeing or showing from. Oh, my God, not Coral Springs. I can't remember what it is. She's a. She's a female cop, believe it or not. She's gonna be joining me tomorrow.
Mike
She's on your show?
DC
Yeah.
Mike
Are you gonna tell her all the bad things about female cops?
Dominic Izzo
No, she knows that she's actually. It's her. And I actually had somebody.
Tyler
It's.
Dominic Izzo
It sucked. I had a Ted from fit responder texted me the other day. He goes, you know, so and so. And I. I like Ted. Ted's a nice guy. Ted is starting to come around. Ted gave me, well, females can be cops. And now Ted's starting to go.
Mike
I have seen him coming around on some posts.
Dominic Izzo
We did that. We did the interview. Well, a year ago, I did a podcast with Ted and he's like, you can't say that all women aren't or shouldn't be cops. Now. Ted's agreement. But anyways, he called, he asked me, sent me a text and said, do I know so and so. And Megan, I can't remember her. Habib, maybe her last name is Valkyrie Fitness. And he goes, did you know about this woman? Because somebody's feeding me about her and she shouldn't be a car. She isn't a cop. She got fired. Or X, Y, and Z. And I said, yeah. I said no about it because somebody else tried to do the same thing. Give me. They gave me her court case. I looked at it, and I said, this woman has been over. So I reached out to her. I said, give me a call when you can. I want to talk to you about something. She read my message, didn't respond. But it. It does suck. And I guess I have this.
Mike
This is Jersey. The Jersey State Police.
Dominic Izzo
Yeah.
Mike
Just a girl from Jersey. Yes. I was sent that as well.
Dominic Izzo
Added up fit as. But. So Ted asked her, you know, somebody's been talking about you. She goes, oh, is it Izzo? And Ted's. And I said, that's not me. So I actually talked to her. I had a conversation on the phone the other day, and I said I was trying to let you know I believe you got over and I want to have your back and whatnot. So it does suck that I know that the corner I painted myself into. But I do go out of my way to try to help.
Mike
Female. This is the. The something to do with the DUI and then some reports. Right.
Dominic Izzo
It was. It was the biggest stretch of that I read to where they went, we need to discipline you on something. And I told her, I said, it's because you're fit, you're attractive, and you got a mouth. I said, you had a target.
Mike
I didn't see the whole case. I saw the appeal version, which is very narrowed. It's just narrowed down to, yes, we sustain it. I didn't get all the details as far as what actually happened, but I
Dominic Izzo
think she got over big time.
Mike
All right, we'll check you out tomorrow night, Dominic. We appreciate coming on. And as always, man, bye, Dominic. I try not to say Dom, and I always slip.
Tyler
I know.
Mike
So hard. Like every friend I have like Dom in the garage. Like, what guy works at the sheriff's house. I used to work at his.
Tyler
Dom.
Mike
Everybody's Dom.
Tyler
You are. You're good again.
Mike
Make you call me all kinds of. But that's fine, dude.
Tyler
You're a communist after today. Oh, my God, dude. You want to bring CC back on? Sure.
Mike
Make sure he's ready.
Tyler
Lewis, don't.
Mike
He said, you want to bring. I heard it. I heard it.
DC
And he just said, hold that.
Dominic Izzo
Let me see what this motherfucker's doing.
Mike
Is that macaroni and cheese in the room with you? Yeah, dude.
Tyler
I mean, I know you wanted to debate him, but I I just. He only has a limited amount of time and I didn't want to. I didn't want to hit him. I. I know you'd be respectful, but that's why we're gonna try something.
Mike
It's all love. What do you think about it?
DC
I think he's very misguided and his white privilege blinds him from understanding the reality of what people who look very similar to me are actually doing in these streets.
Mike
And he's one of the. The white privileged guys that will try to tell minorities how like, like relate or tell them what they should think. He would tell you even though you are black, he would tell you what's good for you. He would actually tell you because he knows. And then that's that false white privilege. I don't have white privilege, but I'm going to tell a black guy how he should feel. Exactly.
DC
He's the exact. That's the exact1.
Dominic Izzo
Yep.
DC
I 100 agree with you, Mike.
Mike
Yeah, that's. That's crazy work when I see that. I love it. Like, you're gonna tell this guy what he should think.
DC
Huh?
Mike
And if you don't believe him, then you're the problem. Well, you are one of the problems. That's why you're the.
DC
That's why you're the bad ones. And then they drop the N word.
Tyler
Yeah, I mean, he dropped the hard R. He definitely did not surprise me when he was like, I enjoy drugs. I'm like, I know somebody that can do them recreationally to be up at 8 in the morning.
Mike
But you can. Here's what I don't like. He can. You can go back to say why all these things happen. Like, you can blame slavery. You can go all the way back, blame all the bank. But here we are right now.
DC
Slavery was black people's fault.
Mike
Well, you can say that.
Ryan
I can't.
Mike
But he said black people fault, so I can't. I'm repeating what he said. Don't. Don't play any more, Simon says with me, because I don't want to say anything else that you're allowed to say that I'm not allowed to say. But now that we've established that happened, all that happened, whatever, you're gonna blink, but we. Here we are now. And I think, I know Chicago is always the default, but it's. You can't glaze over that. That there it is. That is not the problem in Chicago. The problem is criminals with guns killing each other. You can't blame the banks. You can't blame the police. You can't blame the white man.
Tyler
It's Richard. You said the word blame, my friend. Yeah.
Mike
Yeah. That's a really good one.
Tyler
When we're talking with him, I think the whole time we're talking, he's just coming up with a debate. I've never once heard him say. Actually, you're right.
Mike
He never answered my commission about smaller.
Tyler
Didn't answer my question about. I just asked him something today, and he just bounced around the point where I was like, did he not answer my question?
Mike
No, he didn't. No.
DC
Well, I mean, the chat. All the people in the chat were just saying, he's deflecting. He refuses to answer any question. And then he answers the question by playing the whole white privilege card, saying, oh, but I don't like that type of tone, because that language is, like, very oppressive.
Mike
Yeah. Even Somali. When I mentioned Somalian crime in Minnesota in the billions, he blamed it on white people. Well, it all goes back to the Devin bc, when this white guy, like, you know, give me an answer. Give me an answer. And it. There's really never an answer.
DC
Well, I mean, the reality is, is that everybody always likes to make exclusive excuses and give reasons as to why this, why that. But then they'll also omit very important parts of history. Like, the first federally legal slave owner was black. So we can start there. That's number one.
Tyler
Well, I was gonna ask you, what is. How does. How is slavery black people's problem?
Mike
Who put the slaves on the boat when they.
DC
Black people.
Mike
Oh. Who sold them?
Tyler
Who picked them up? Who brought them to America?
DC
And they have the same last names. So don't tell me Finkelstein in 1830 wasn't a small hat. Come on.
Tyler
Yeah. I mean, and I've always. Even since I was a kid, I've always wondered why, like, there's still slavery active in, like, over half the world. And I just made that up, by the way. But there's active slaves right here.
Mike
No, no, it's not even.
DC
Yeah, you're not even wrong, Tyler. So you don't even have to say you made it up, because it actually is the reality. And it's more than half the world. You go to anywhere in China. There's a whole group of Christians that are currently slaves in China. You go to anywhere in the Middle east, all they have. All have slaves. The biggest slave trade wasn't even when the US had the Atlantic trade trade. The whole big slave trade in history of the world is happening right now, right now in front of our faces. So It's.
Tyler
Why do. Why does our society, in our country push the black slavery in the 1800s in our faces every single day, all the time? Never forget it. Never allowed to move on. Like, why is that a thing? And are we just as a country where. And this is the most offensive clip I'm ever going to put out there. But, like, the whole world's doing it. Whole world's doing it. But here we have to make. We have to be made. Felt bad because a hundred years ago, people owned slaves and it wasn't even the.
DC
Wasn't even the worst thing. I mean, hey, you had a guy, you know what I'm saying, He clipped the yard and did all this other stuff and then something to shed.
Tyler
I mean. Yeah. And then there's indentured. Indentured servants. That was.
Mike
Are we gonna glaze over? Are we gonna glaze over? His definition of slavery. Holy. I think it might have been a little worse than that.
Dominic Izzo
But
Mike
once again, all those things that happen, like you have multiple generations removed from that and we kind of get frowned. I get black or frown upon by saying, well, I didn't do it. I didn't own a slave, and I don't condone it. And I would never want that to happen to anybody.
Tyler
I would.
Mike
I can't. Like, you always go.
Tyler
And I don't condone it.
Dominic Izzo
I would never own a space.
Tyler
You don't have to say that. It just kind of implies.
Mike
If I moved to China and opened an iPhone factory, I would pay fair wages. I would pay fair wages.
Tyler
You know they're not allowed, right? You don't have to say it anymore.
Mike
He just said half the world has slaves.
Tyler
You're not allowed to.
Mike
I can move somewhere and have slaves. Can I do. No, he's just saying.
DC
He's not against it. He's not against going and having some slaves.
Mike
I could, yes, I could move to an island and traffic children if I wanted to. I mean, half the government did it, but I don't want to. Right. I would just create a whole war just to hide the fact that people did that.
Tyler
Never.
DC
The files dropped that we started bombing Iran.
Mike
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. But I would never. But I'm still responsible for what people did. Yeah, I'm still responsible.
Tyler
And it'll never go away.
Mike
It's getting thinner and thinner. I think eventually, like, that there's an
Tyler
entire generation of black people out there that think reparations are gonna happen. Like, that's crazy to me when they
Mike
really believe it and I'm like, Muslims and Somalians outnumber all of us. Well, none of us gonna be able to talk about much.
Tyler
So just, you know what's gonna happen is when they start outnumbering us, guess who's gonna come get. They're gonna come out of nowhere, charging on their steeds with their swords is the Jews. And we're gonna be like, sorry for saying all these things about the Jews. Yeah. They're gonna be like, it's okay. And they're gonna be going to war
Mike
with all the Muslims stars everywhere.
DC
Jewish ninjas.
Mike
Tristan's right. I have slaves making these war hats as we speak. What are you talking? Made in Vietnam, baby.
DC
But I mean the whole, the whole thing goes back to even like to school. Like I, I homeschool myself personally and, and I could tell you a hundred percent just me being remembering and the chat can comment on this from when they remember when they were in school. It's all pushed on you from school. So the school grants. No, not yet. I'm about to. About to get $6 billion from my leering center.
Mike
Get free lunch in freaking California, dude.
Tyler
DC probably has two podcast stations where he rolls to the next one he puts on a chain and a grilling his mouth.
Mike
Don't forget about the third one. He's got a third one where he
Tyler
puts his tiny hat on.
DC
Well, guys, so I want to talk to you about how the anti hero broadcast is being very anti Semitic and it really. I'm sorry, it's my allergies.
Tyler
That was good. That was good. Oh boy.
Mike
Are we potato yet?
DC
Not yet. I'm co signing you, so you're good right now.
Dominic Izzo
Yeah.
Tyler
Dang it. They got one.
Mike
They got one. We got everything in him we got covered.
DC
We're covered.
Tyler
I wanted to bring this to your guys's attention too. Oh, Heather sent me this. So this is a. First of all. Did you know in California there's. There's charges that have to do with CP that are only.
Mike
Yeah, I heard about this.
Tyler
Yeah. This is crazy.
DC
Yeah, that guy's running for office.
Tyler
I felt attacked. I had met with them several times. I had. If. If biological male. If you. He. He's what I would picture as sex offender.
Mike
Like if you had a biological male.
DC
Yeah, yeah.
Tyler
That's the type of guy that like wants to be friends with children. Gave them plenty of opportunity to talk to me privately.
Mike
That's not a female.
Tyler
One of them reached out to me.
Mike
Fresno City Council candidate, 41 year old Renee Campos, a registered sex offender, responding To Thursday's uproar from council member.
Tyler
He's French.
Nespresso Announcer
We have a registered sex offender that
Tyler
is currently running for Fresno City Council. While I respect anybody's ability to serve our community, I find this quite disturbing. I did hear some of the concerns of a potential future or former Epstein
Ryan
type candidate coming to this
Tyler
Thursday.
Mike
We have kids in this room.
Tyler
We have families.
Mike
Campos is registered on the California Megan's Law website. It's because he was arrested in 2018 after a cyber tip was sent to the local Internet Crimes against children task force. We went to this home in Fresno. There we contacted compost and we were able to determine that he had been downloading and sharing child sexual abuse material.
Tyler
Then why the is being imprisoned?
DC
It's California, bro.
Mike
It's a misdemeanor.
Tyler
Yeah, dude.
DC
Yeah.
Tyler
They just said that he should be murdered. I don't know. I've never heard of a CP charge that was a misdemeanor ever in my life.
Mike
It's. I don't know how. It's a federal crime. California Internet to transmit images.
Tyler
What the. Somebody dropped in the Fresno County Jail
Mike
after he pleaded no contest to a sole misdemeanor charge of possessing and controlling child pornography. Now several members of the Fresno City Council announcing they're working on legislation to bar him and other sex offenders from running.
Ryan
This isn't about one person. It's not about an election. It's not about race politics.
Mike
This is about keeping City Hall a
Ryan
safe, free, participating home for all of the residents of Fresno.
Mike
Well, Campos believes that action would go against the constitution and that he has a right to run and has been accountable since the beginning.
Tyler
I am no danger to no one. I put everything out there, every detail. I to make people feel that I have been transparent every single way. Nobody does this in government. Nobody comes out from the very beginning. Hey, I up personally, I felt okay. I caught that one about five seconds too late.
Mike
That's crazy. How is it a misdemeanor?
DC
Well, it's California. Everything's a misdemeanor over there.
Mike
I wonder how.
DC
Except having allowed.
Mike
We'd have to ask Ryan how he feels about that. That I would like to know his take on that.
Tyler
He would avoid the flex the question.
Mike
No, he's got it. He's got to answer it.
DC
Dude, he's not answering that.
Tyler
I gotta hear that.
Mike
I gotta hear how that's okay. Should we put him up? Should we help that guy up?
Tyler
Put him up.
Mike
The guy. Should we help that guy out? I'm saying, should he be able to Run. I wanna. I'd like to hear
Tyler
like, damn, we had a communist time, but I have a child.
Mike
I don't understand how it's a. I don't understand how that could be a misdemeanor.
Tyler
I don't either. Like you said, if it's a. Federally. It's a federal crime that's usually prosecuted through the state. Right? Like.
Mike
Well, I mean, you. I mean, if you transfer, if you transmit through state lines, that's when the feds get involved.
Tyler
When you have.
Mike
I mean, you're using the Internet.
Tyler
There's. It's.
Mike
I gotta look that up now. I gotta see how it's a misdemeanor
Tyler
to share abuse producer stuff. You know, you guys keep talking off of that. How is. Oh, I don't want to put chat.
DC
Yeah, that's a wild Google search. How to download CP and not get arrested, question mark.
Mike
What is.
Tyler
Can be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor, depending on the facts.
Mike
Well, I mean, what are the. All right, hold on.
Tyler
Penal code.
DC
I hope she didn't look that up in Tyler's house.
Tyler
Jesus, dad. No, just a studio IPA.
Mike
California Code 3, 311 1. A wobble is a wobbler. Crime known knowingly possessing, produce, publish or distribute obscene matter depicting a person under 18 engaging in sexual conduct. It includes physical and digital AI images. Convictions can lead up to one year in court, one year in jail, or three, even in felonies. Three years?
Tyler
Dude, that's insane.
Mike
Dude, you get like 15 in Florida. Like, rather rip for one image. You're done. You're done.
Tyler
Yeah, I've never seen any search warrants in. In where I. When I was with the SPAT team that weren't FBI for child porn. Oh, it's for cp. Well, that's insane, man.
DC
There goes. There goes. There goes this episode.
Mike
Like, that's. We talked. Where did I talk? Oh, me and Dominic talked about last night. Like, that is the un. Forgivable un. Like you should die.
DC
Yeah, Like, I think we're on the same page.
Mike
You can kill somebody in like a road rage or some type of crime of passion. Something where you're like, damn, I probably shouldn't have done that. You can be rehabilitated.
Tyler
Anybody who transitioned die just for possession of the material preemptively. Yeah.
Mike
Because if you are able to transmit it, look at it and fantasize about it, you are only under your own control so long until you cross the line of actually committing a crime.
Tyler
Time. You are.
Mike
We as society now have to monitor you as an Offender and go.
DC
We hope.
Mike
Kind of like the RPO argument we were talking about. We hope they don't act it out and actually snatch up a. A four year old and then do something crazy. So they should be gone. Deleted.
Tyler
Well, I mean, isn't it. I don't know because.
Mike
Are you gonna let the defenders.
Tyler
No, I'm curious about like how every society before us that was acceptable for men to. I mean, Muslims do it to this day, don't they?
DC
Yeah, Muslims have parties about that.
Mike
I think in some of the South. I know in Hispanic culture, a young is not as frowned upon as our culture.
DC
No. 16 is Gucci. And most Hispanic cultures.
Mike
Yes.
Tyler
Yeah. So there's that. Then there's guys marrying 12 year olds, getting them pregnant. Like today. In today's times.
DC
Muslims.
Tyler
Yeah. I mean, I don't understand enough about the Bible, but weren't there some questionable relationships in the Bible? Different times.
DC
Okay, yeah, I'm not sure about that. But I do know the Quran does say that. That the prophet got with Aisha when she was 7, then she got pregnant when she was 9. So.
Mike
But in his case, if you listen to what they said, it was child images involving abuse as well. Yeah, that's what it says.
Tyler
So there was an act and it's still missing you. That's fine.
Mike
That's what I'm saying. It doesn't.
Tyler
Do you think they.
Mike
No, they said there's images though are considered.
Tyler
Someone says they do Internet crimes against children's search warrants all the time at the state level. Okay, that's cool.
Mike
Let me find it. Hold on. Keep talking. I want to show Tim people. I got a Tim Tebow ready.
Dominic Izzo
I want to show.
Mike
Because he's a good dude.
DC
Oh yeah, Tim Tebow did a lot of stuff about that. I was watching that. He has the whole list of everybody who.
Mike
Here we go.
DC
Who's downloaded, transmitted and searched in like all the country. That's the one you're gonna show Mike.
Dominic Izzo
Yep.
Mike
Here you go. I just sent the antihero. This will blow your mind. Yes, this will blow your mind.
Tyler
Okay, hold on.
Mike
It's in.
Tyler
I got it.
Mike
Lewis is doing things. I didn't know if he's your Lewis.
DC
Come on, Lewis.
Mike
Screens are flying.
DC
Things are going through the tape at Lewis.
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
Every red dot is a unique IP address that is downloading and sharing child images and videos. Our law enforcement is so undermanned.
Tyler
It's.
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
It does not have many places, does not have the best tech. They are undermanned. There is a few people, their job Is this. It is not a lot. I feel like we think it's just over there and over there, meaning overseas. Overseas. We think it's taken Liam Neeson. We think it's all of these other things when it's not. We have so many issues that are taking place right here in our country and I could keep going off list. We're the number one buyer for boys and girls around the world. We, we pay for the boys and girls. Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Thailand.
Tyler
What do we. It keeps bleeping it out material
Ryan
in
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
peer to peer sharing of, of this information. We're third worst in the world. China, Russia, US And Italy's fourth. This is one of the worst evils in the world. And people think, well, we're not doing that. Our hearts is to get this, you know, message out to be able to make change and, and then support the, our law enforcement and task forces that are working on this because there are some freaking heroes that are fighting us every single day. They do not have as good of technology most of the time as those with the goal to do evil.
Mike
They just don't.
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
Do you know how hard it is for these law enforcement officers when you wake up every day and you watch a video of a, an infant.
Tyler
18.
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
You're 18 month old, a nine month old. And that's one of the number one burnout rates for law enforcement.
DC
How do you deal and process this?
Mike
Like you're hearing tragic stories.
Tyler
You want to just watch them.
Guest Speaker on Law Enforcement
Every red dot.
Mike
So if you go, if you look, there's blue dots. Very few. Those are actual investigative dots. So of all that going out around the nation, you can kind of see down there, there's a couple blue ones. Those are the ones they've actually investigated.
Tyler
Looks like the Midwest kind of handles around.
Mike
Yes, but that is a. When you categorize misdemeanor and a guy gets. Stays out, that's what you have is continued growing red dots. If you put those people away and make an example out of them and they're gone every single time. Maybe we shrink some of those red dots. But of all those red dots, the blue ones are the only ones. Actual law enforcement investigation, which you can, you can't even hardly see them. They're just here and there. Very, very.
Tyler
I mean there's so much red on the right side that it's like black.
Mike
Yeah. So that's, that's a huge problem. Insane. Insane. Which leads to other crimes. If you're gonna allow, if you're gonna let that many people fulfill a fantasy by looking at it. When do they finally act out on it and do something that's newsworthy? Because that should be newsworthy right there.
Tyler
Well, I mean, we talk about this a lot, how it's like almost like they're about to fight. Fall into the LG TB Keys Q community.
DC
Yeah, that's what they're pushing for. They're pushing for the LGBTQ community to get that in there.
Tyler
Because in 20 years. I mean, look at it. Look at how people looked at gays 20 years ago. That's kind of how they look at PETAs now. What are they called? They. They call themselves something.
DC
No, they're called maps. Minor attracted persons. Which is crazy. I'm not co signing that.
Tyler
We're acknowledging that. We're even acknowledging that they feel like they don't to as society. Yes, we are acknowledged that they don't like that term. They don't like crazy. So we're giving them the term maps
Mike
now, which is crazy.
DC
And people are pushing to make it a thing. And they're supposed to be in the community.
Tyler
Well, we are a society of people. Yep. Well.
DC
Well, liberals. Definitely not us. But there are people who are pushing to get them into the lgbtq, I guess m now community. It's okay. Maps. Yeah. I mean, unless they're gonna put the whole thing in there. But you know how they are. They just add lettuce.
Tyler
But I will.
Mike
I will go with him with Tebow said, because having worked in the detective division for a while, they are ridiculously under.
Ryan
Oh, yeah.
Tyler
Imagine having to prioritize.
Mike
What happens is, oh, we got. We have a bunch of burglaries. Pull those guys out and have them go work a detail, come on here. And they go. They send all these schools and they're able to do all the chatting and all that investigation. But it is. I remember seeing the sheets of tips that would come in through ip. You know, the IP tips that come in, they may get to. There might be a hundred of them. They may get to two or three. And then the next sheet comes in next month, and then the next. She comes in next month, and there's just. They're getting drug away for front office capers and friends of the Sheriff cases and all that other garbage that goes on. And they don't ever leave that unit dedicated. And another thing, I was watching a documentary on a crazy case, and I saw that, like, Memphis, Tennessee had like 6, 000 UN processed rape kits like that weren't even processed in CODIS yet and put into the system. So you talk about backlogging and things not getting funded. That DNA starts that chain of events that leads to convictions all over the country and other offenders being identified. Those type of cases are being brushed aside and not investigated or not even uploaded into databases due to funding. So sometimes I think our priorities are in the wrong place. But you know, Chicago will spend $10 billion in overtime for gang shootings to go process crime scenes and clean all that up. But are we underfunding in other areas where those results would lead to convictions of really, really bad people?
Tyler
I just say, I mean there needs to be at the society, we have to punish them harder and send them back into their caves like they were 20 years ago. Because kids used to be able to walk around the streets. Abduction was a very rare thing. Now you can't, I mean we all know you can't just let your kids run around anymore. No. Because they feel like they can come out and be amongst us where it's like, it's like just crime in general. You're never gonna stop it. It, you're never going to stop evil, you're never going to stop crime. But what you do is you suppress it. That's what I, I remember one of the better speeches I ever got in law enforcement. I was new is the sheriff came in and swore us and he goes guys, I don't expect you to, to end all crime. I accept. I expect you to suppress it so the taxpayers can wander freely without being harmed. And I was like that makes sense. So you suppress it. You suppress it right into the dark disgusting caves that they live in and you keep them there and you let our children be able to play out. But now as a society, it's not happening.
Mike
And isn't it crazy that technology got better but humanity got worse? Yeah, we have better technology now to license plate readers, cameras everywhere. You would think it would be safer and it's actually not safer. So it's like I still have all
DC
these missing kids and you're telling me with all this facial recognition we can't spot these missing kids, but I can pick out known terrorists somewhere. Yeah, yeah.
Mike
Who stole your car. Find that guy who did this. But, and I think it falls back to unfortunately they it they're just over logged with persons crimes like actual physical persons crimes and violent crimes and everything else. And they're not spending the time to identify these predators that are on the Internet. And it's just grown like as technology always say this, as technology grew, we didn't keep up with the laws, stalking laws, using you Know, cyber stalking, all that stuff that happened as. As technology progressed, we didn't keep the statutes and the investigation in line with making sure we police that area. And now you have an entire dark web. You have an entire. All this going on while everything else is still going on. And those people are the most dangerous because they're the ones that are. That'll snatch a kid up or who knows what. I mean.
DC
Don't make those kids disappear.
Mike
Correct. Correct.
DC
And we have breaking news.
Mike
Oh, breaking news, all right.
DC
The fin. The Finland's Minister of Defense inserts finished name because I can't even pronounce that. Announcing that the country has lifted its ban on the import and transport of nuclear weapons, paving the way for deployments of nuclear capable aircraft and warheads by members of NATO, including France or the United States, onto the territory of Finland as a launching point to the Middle East.
Mike
Oh, boy, spicy.
DC
Oh, boy, spicy. So Finland used to not want any parts in that, and now Finland said, I want the smoke.
Mike
They're very neutral. They try to stand.
Tyler
I forgot they were a country.
Mike
Yeah, they got you go cruising.
DC
They're still there.
Tyler
Where's New Finland?
DC
Next to the old one, I guess.
Tyler
Is that like Mexico? New Mexico. Do we own New Finland?
DC
No, we want to own Greenland.
Mike
Here comes the fifth grade. Education shining through.
Tyler
Funny is the fact that Puerto Rico sucks so bad.
Ryan
Just.
Mike
Just on Puerto Rico.
Tyler
We want all the benefits to owning territory. We just don't want the responsibility.
DC
Exactly.
Mike
How do they catch astray? We were over in Finland and the Puerto Ricans just caught a stray.
Tyler
Be the first one to tell you it'd be nice to be the 51st state there.
Mike
It'd be nice, Puerto Rico. What do you think, Louis?
Tyler
I don't know.
Mike
You don't have a. You don't have anything.
Tyler
You know what's funny? He calls me dumb. And then I listen to the dumbest argument Mike's ever put out. He goes, lewis isn't Hispanic, he's Puerto Rican.
Mike
That's not what I. That's not what.
Tyler
Yes, yes, it was. You said, lewis, you're not Hispanic, you're Puerto Rican.
Mike
Puerto Rican.
Tyler
I'm Hispanic, he's Puerto Rican.
Mike
Be proud of your exact location is what I was getting at. Puerto Rico. I'm Mexican, he's not anything.
Tyler
Are you not white also?
Mike
No, I'm Greek and Italian.
DC
He's a Guido. He's like Jersey.
Dominic Izzo
Sure.
Mike
And German.
DC
The good German or the bad German?
Mike
I don't know. I know my grandma was pretty rough. I can tell you that. Yeah. I don't know if you'd have been around over.
DC
No, no. I'm the new black. I run slow and I swim fast.
Tyler
Well, here we are, man. Yeah, we're gonna end the show. We can kind of do it. We got a meeting at 1:30. We want to get some food. So we're gonna probably bug out of here.
Mike
Oh, yeah, Casual Friday.
Tyler
Yeah, that's a fun one. Yeah. Hi. Casual Friday. Get a bunch of videos loaded up.
Mike
Casual Friday followed by open mic.
Tyler
Oh, we got.
Mike
Always forget to pump open mic.
Tyler
We got tonight.
Mike
Oh, we got a huge. We're gonna have probably eight to 10 people in the studio. Yeah. A regular crew. Plus we have two. We have peach. Peaches and cream coming.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
And we have two followers, world 99ers that are stopping by tonight.
Tyler
Nice.
Mike
I think our pepperoni pizza is gonna be covered. What do you call it?
Tyler
I don't. What do you call it?
Mike
You know what?
Dominic Izzo
You go.
Tyler
Can you. Before we. I. I texted Mike last night, said, FYI, I executed order 66. I started the big tier. Me and Mike have been batting it around for months. Whether or not we agree with it, whether or not you know how it makes us look, we didn't want to do it. It's the only way to do it as of right now that we can get our goals achieved with connecting with some real OGs and people that are down and loyal. What's the name that you gave me last night?
Mike
I don't know what you're talking about.
Tyler
You saw me. Tyler. What?
Mike
Nothing.
Tyler
It wasn't Tyler Hoover.
Mike
No, it was. If you put the. He goes, how much is it? But it wasn't jw. It was juw.
DC
Your profile picture has to be with a small hat.
Mike
Oh, man.
Tyler
All right, that's it.
Mike
Yeah. Still Hoover in Spanish.
Tyler
That's right. Oh, there you go.
Mike
Huber Lewis doesn't speak any Spanish, so don't ask him anything about it, which is crazy.
Tyler
All right, guys, we will see you tonight on a Counterculture Inc. Network on YouTube. You need to go to Counterculture Inc. And subscribe so you get notified at 8:00 clock when we go live. I'm a dot. Never late. If we're late, Mike's fault. See you tonight. See you tomorrow morning, 11am Casual Fridays.
Ryan
Hoover.
Tyler
Jv team for life.
Date: March 5, 2026
Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Hosts: Tyler & Mike
Featured Guests: DC (Conservative Chocolate), Ryan, Dominic Izzo
This episode of The Antihero Broadcast tackles the escalating tensions between the U.S. and Iran, examining whether America is prepared for a potential war. The discussion caters to veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans, prioritizing authenticity and candid conversation. Regulars and guest contributors join the hosts to share intelligence updates, debate law enforcement philosophy, challenge political narratives, and dissect viral clips—all through the show's trademark blunt, blue-collar lens.
[01:22–09:40]
[10:14–14:29]
Tyler lists major terror attacks attributed to Iran, noting thousands of American casualties since 1979.
Milestones include the 1983 Beirut bombings, Iraq War deaths (2003–2011), 2023 Hamas massacre, and various hijackings.
Debate over whether America should have retaliated militarily long ago.
Hosts reflect on the limits of diplomacy and the point at which military response is justified.
[14:29–16:22]
Praise for Senator John Fetterman (D-PA) as the only Democrat to back continued military action.
Frustration with politics overshadowing common sense decisions on national security.
[16:24–27:08]
Guest: DC (Conservative Chocolate)
[16:40] DC reports real-time attacks:
[19:20] Breaking News:
[22:58] Mobilization Signs:
[24:50] Social Media Misinformation:
[27:32–35:41]
The appropriateness of the protest.
If and how police should use force against passive resistors.
First Amendment boundaries in government settings.
[35:49–55:12]
Ryan denounces U.S. intervention:
Criticizes "morally bankrupt, Zionist-led occupation" and questions bombings.
Issues of free speech, Citizens United, and the illusion of democratic participation.
Debates whether property destruction in protests is "violence."
Quotes:
Policing and Protest:
[54:11–58:38]
Statistical arguments on violent crime in Chicago, race, and police over- or under-policing.
Debate over the roots of urban violence, redlining, and system design.
Hosts and guests critique each other’s frames, with moments of both agreement and strong disagreement over cause and solution.
[59:09–61:03]
The episode maintains its trademark "blue collar," no-BS, often irreverent but candid style. The hosts don't shy away from humor, tough questions, or controversial opinions, fostering sometimes fiery, but always direct, debates. The language is honest, sometimes coarse, and unapologetically opinionated, echoing its audience of veterans, cops, and first responders.
For full context and the signature flavor, tune in to the next episode or check out the Patreon if you want “the real deal” as the Antihero team delivers it.