ARTEMIS II To Orbit The MOON- But We Still Can't Land On It.. (04/02/2026)

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast – Episode Recap

Episode Title: “ARTEMIS II To Orbit the MOON – But We Still Can’t Land On It...”
Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Tyler, Mike
Notable Guests: Anthony (Heroic Industries), Ryan (“Marine Communist,” compassionateveterans.org), Lewis (“G Money”), Dominic

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Antihero Broadcast is a wide-ranging, no-holds-barred roundtable blending blue-collar talk, policing, union debates, lunar conspiracies, listener banter, and a showcase of homemade music. The hosts and guests take on everything from Artemis II’s “historic” moon mission, the politics of labor and police unions, a controversial NYPD verdict, and the perennial moon landing conspiracy. The show bounces between serious analysis, sarcastic humor, personal anecdotes, and wild tangents—reflecting its ethos as a voice for veterans, first responders, and working-class Americans.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Labor & Police Unions – Class Warfare or Worker Solidarity?

(05:29 – 10:53)

• Ryan sparks a debate by asking about the show’s “blue collar” branding and their stance on labor unions, pushing for “class consciousness” and suggesting common ground between left and right.

• Mike & Tyler share firsthand, mostly negative, experiences with police and labor unions (e.g., job protection for problematic employees, extortionate fees at union-controlled facilities).

• Ryan contends early labor wins (like 40-hour workweek) are a “sellout,” but unions remain crucial as “HR doesn’t represent workers… HR protects the company.”

  “Labor unions are super important… in the absence of… organizing, there is no leverage for the individual worker.”
  – Ryan (09:07)

• Disagreement exists about police unions:
  – Ryan: “I don’t believe in the police.” (26:40)
  – Mike: “I do see how origins of [unions] have communist feels, but at the end of the day we don’t want billion-dollar corporations treating their employees like sh*t.” (10:08) – Tyler and Mike see law enforcement’s exceptions to labor laws as a raw deal, with discussion on overtime loopholes and hazardous, badly regulated hours for cops.

• The panel discusses law enforcement working conditions and hypocrisy in public attitudes toward police (“everyone likes cops until the rules apply to them” – 33:51).

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2. Policing, Class, and Community

(17:31 – 25:04)

• Ryan critiques “commuter cops” for being disconnected from communities they police. He ties policing to enforcing inequality:

  “Police serve as that buffer, right? Between the poor and the wealthy and protect property.”
  – Ryan (23:53)

• Mike/Anthony counter that real change in “bad areas” happens when law enforcement comes from those communities themselves, not outsiders.

• Ryan reframes “the hood” as “communities surviving engineered inequality.” He links the school-to-prison pipeline with military recruitment and the struggle for upward mobility.

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3. Controversial NYPD Verdict – Outrage & Analysis

(36:08 – 43:04)

• The show reacts to the verdict in the killing of NYPD Officer Jonathan Diller, where the suspect was acquitted of first-degree murder (despite clear evidence of intent) and convicted of a lesser manslaughter charge.
• Extensive anger at legal technicalities, prosecutorial and judicial decisions, and declining public/political support for police:

  “... to hear the words not guilty of first-degree murder when somebody shot a police officer point-blank range is disgusting. And that shows the direction of New York.” – Tyler (37:47)

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4. Artemis II, Moon Landings, and Space Conspiracy Theories

(89:13 – 101:39)

• The supposed “historic” Artemis II orbit mission is met with heavy skepticism regarding the technical realities of lunar travel—both in the present and Apollo era.
• The hosts call out inconsistencies: “We lost the institutional know-how to get back to the moon… It’d be too expensive to replicate it,” Mike says sarcastically (94:24).
• The panel highlights technological improbabilities (e.g., battery life, lunar rover logistics, loss of original tapes), and play vintage “moon takeoff”/”spacewalk” videos, noting their obvious studio fakery:

  “That looks like Epcot… a bad Epcot ride.” – Tyler (101:22)

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5. Personalities, Community, and Offbeat Content

(Throughout, esp. 31:09, 45:03, 66:32 onward)

• The show’s supporting cast shines in its blend of irreverence, self-deprecating humor, and intra-group loyalty.
• Anthony discusses his fitness/rehab journey and “Heroic Industries” app for law enforcement health, emphasizing treating cops as athletes and overcoming adversity:

  “Everybody’s got something they struggle with … Your options are roll over and die or figure it the f*ck out.” – Anthony (51:56)

• Dominic and others brainstorm a grassroots, non-union, action-oriented support network for cops unjustly targeted in political firings.
• The cast is unafraid to air disagreements openly but emphasizes trust, loyalty, and dialogue as antidotes to online division.

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6. Comic Relief: Music Shares & Banter

(109:03 – End)

• In a light-hearted segment, G Money (Lewis) plays his original Rubik’s Cube-inspired pop songs, which the crew jokes sound like Filipino cruise ship karaoke—yet the segment serves as a celebration of blue-collar creativity and camaraderie.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Law Enforcement Work Hours:

  “We can go work for 48 hours straight with no sleep. Truckers have to stop and take rest… We don’t have rules like that.”
  – Anthony (14:06)

• On Unions:

  “Labor unions are super important and this is what I’m trying to explore together... this is something that we can agree on...”
  – Ryan (09:47)

• On US Class Structure:

  “Blue collar… we are incredibly more closely connected to our neighbor living on the streets… than the [billionaire class].”
  – Ryan (22:22)

• On Moon Missions:

  “We lost the knowledge and institutional know-how… Greatest accomplishment man has ever done, and we’re just gonna lose the information?... It’s a farce.”
  – Lewis (94:29)

• On Online Disagreements & Loyalty:

  “If I think he’s wrong, he’s wrong... That’s beside the point of loyalty.”
  – Tyler (74:34)
  “It affords you a chance to double down on your convictions and test them.”
  – Dominic (78:11)

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Timeline of Major Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |----------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:00–05:29 | Cold Open, banter, guest intros, blue-collar audience notes | | 05:29–11:58 | Labor/police unions debate, class, HR, overtime law for cops | | 14:04–16:26 | Dangerous cop work hours and lack of industry protections | | 17:13–25:04 | Community policing, overpolicing, “engineered inequality,” and class betrayal rhetoric | | 36:08–43:04 | Outrage over NYPD Officer Diller verdict; shifting standards of justice for cops | | 45:03–54:34 | Anthony’s story: personal fitness, injuries, Heroic Industries for law enforcers | | 66:32–73:35 | Dominic on grassroots police advocacy, firing for political expediency (Joseph Magnano case) | | 89:13–101:39 | Artemis II, moon landing conspiracy, technical skepticism, spacewalk video breakdown | | 109:03–112:51 | Community music segment: Lewis’ Rubik’s Cube songs |

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Tone & Language

• Raw, direct, sometimes irreverent “blue-collar” commentary—honest appraisals, playful insults, freely aired disagreement.
• Balanced mix of sincere discussion (especially on unions, policing, and space skepticism), sarcastic digs, and goof-off moments.
• The group takes pride in not being "woke" or sanitized, but regularly emphasizes mutual respect, directness, and community amongst listeners and hosts.

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Memorable Moments

• Anthony’s “everybody’s got something” speech about coming back from injury (51:56).
• Ryan’s declaration: “I don’t believe in the police, but I love class consciousness” (26:40) — met with derisive groans, laughter.
• Spacewalk video reaction (“looks like Epcot—bad Epcot ride,” 101:22)
• Panel’s outrage over NYPD manslaughter verdict—unifying moment even for those who often critique police.
• Lewis serenading the group with his Rubik’s Cube YouTube pop song; hosts react with a mix of surprise, praise, and roasts (109:03).

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Conclusion

This Antihero Broadcast episode is a loud, lively slice of American working-class and veteran culture—riffing on everything from economic justice to moon-landing skepticism, but always circling back to the power of honest talk and community. The cast delivers big opinions, sharp humor, and a sense of “we’re here for our own” that underpins both their arguments and their friendships.

Transcript

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

Really.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

How'd you get here today?

[Mike]

I drove.

[Tyler]

No, you did not drive. I drove. No, you did not drive.

[Mike]

I drove.

[Tyler]

I saw you in the passenger seat of a vehicle today. Just for the record, I saw beta male Tyler in the passenger seat of a vehicle today with his little beady eyes looking out the window because I was already in the parking lot. And he got busted to the point that he snuck around to the driver's seat afterwards and tried to act like he got out of the driver's seat. So that's how the day started for me.

[Mike]

My truck's in the shop and there, There we go. And we've got Anthony from Heroic Industries here, one of the counterculture contributors. He puts out a podcast called Heroic the Heroic Nation. Yeah, and then Heroic Industries is your personal training.

[Anthony]

Yep.

[Mike]

The apps out.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

So it'll only take a couple cameras.

[Tyler]

We're getting some lips out of them.

[Mike]

Take a couple camera shots of Anthony before you realize that you might want to take him seriously as far as personal training, so.

[Tyler]

But the Peptides are working.

[Mike]

But without further ado, we've got Ryan in house in studio, a marine communist and a contributor. And I want to say a friend.

[Tyler]

Oh, boy.

[Mike]

I know.

[Tyler]

You're gonna lose half your following. How dare you?

[Mike]

I got.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you bring him in. I guess you would have to consider him a friend because we actually have a group chat with him.

[Dominic]

Right.

[Mike]

Yeah, we have a group chat.

[Tyler]

We have a group chat. Right?

[Ryan]

Yo, so glad to be here. Thank you, gentlemen, for having me. Friend. I, you know, we can meet each other on that friendship bridge. And I'm so glad to be here. Want to say hi to the comment section and just notice how I'm feeling in this moment. My heart rate is a little accelerated. Wanna slow down?

[Mike]

Did I throw you off?

[Tyler]

Is it the comments or us?

[Ryan]

Oh, this is scary. Every week, really. I never know what to expect. It's also fun though, too.

[Tyler]

Nick's not hiding around anywhere, so you're good, Daddy. I said to Tyler, I said, we're probably not gonna have an argument this morning because it's just the three of us.

[Mike]

I do, I do love getting to understand people that I don't understand or people that I don't see eye to eye with as far as culture, government. Well, here's the thing. When it comes to government and deep state, I think we agree on a lot. And I think just really, it's just. What would you say? It's ideology, maybe.

[Tyler]

And yeah, I mean, yeah, I, I again, we get a little lost on words. And pronouns and some of that stuff. But go ahead.

[Ryan]

Can I ask you a question? I loved what I heard in the intro about blue collar sort of audience.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ryan]

And so what does that mean? Really? Like, what can you actually. What is your position on unions? Labor unions, that's all.

[Mike]

That's a tough one, I think. I, I, I'm on the fence. The unions I'm used to are law enforcement unions. And they are very, very different than labor unions, law enforcement unions going out there. I know you don't agree with those. I shouldn't say. I know. I would assume you do not agree with law enforcement use because all they do is get crooked cops hired back on the job. However, there's a lot of. What's it called? They try to get rid of it all the time. Qualified immunity. Yeah. And unions are very important because sometimes cops get. Hugh, there's human error in cop work. And I say this all the time. If I show up, the descriptions goes out, guy with a gun. And I show up and he looks at me and he's scared and he points a gun at me and I kill him because he fits the description. It turns out he was a bystander trying to help and he got in fear for his life. I'm not gonna go to prison for that. That I had the information. I knew at the time. Well, I probably would go to prison, but in my head, depends on what color he is. Yeah, if he's a white dude, we're good. But so what?

[Tyler]

So labor. Here's my experience with it. We went to a conference in Washington, D.C. we pulled up to the back loading dock and they had a labor union D.C. all the workers, forklift workers, and they basically sat there and stared at us and didn't lift a finger to help until we agreed to pay some ungodly amount of money. It was like, well, if you want the forklift to work, it's like five grand for like the weekend to upload and load your stuff. And then I started talking to the people from the union and like, well, there's Joe. He smokes crack every day. About Wednesday, he'll disappear and he'll smoke crack till Friday. He'll come back and then continue working. And there's nothing we can do because he's part of the union. And then the other members of the union kind of said the same thing. Yeah, we do whatever we want. We're protected. We're making 70 an hour up here in D.C. and it was basically like, there's no way to get rid of Them is what I understood and that's my working knowledge of. I have the same working hours of police unions. But my own real experience with the union was that experience I had in Washington D.C. last year.

[Ryan]

And I like as a working class person, do you feel better in a job that you have are a member of union?

[Tyler]

I see. I had no success with the union in law enforcement, so I had no success with you. I can see why it would be beneficial in the example I just gave you, which is their work's guaranteed, they can go on strike, they can barter for higher wages. I do believe the same thing Tyler said that most police union cases are favor bad cops who get their job back because of the laws and the union power. Not always. I mean, but I think more than not, I see a cop get a job back and it's like he probably doesn't deserve it, but the union got his job back. But when it comes to blue collar, what we're looking at is we've had a conversation last night is getting more regular working people into this show. Guys working the oil fields, guys doing just regular jobs out in the factories. Because I've been approached a lot of times in Patreon recently where, where they've said, hey, we're just regular dudes, we're not first responders, we're not cops, we're not military. But you guys are talking the same shop talk. We're talking on the floor of the factory or we're talking on the oil, you know, oil field. So that is an audience we want to bring in because we're trying to be the news for everybody, not just this specific field.

[Mike]

What do you think about labor unions?

[Ryan]

Well, I think we give those early labor union organizers a lot of credit for the 40 hour workweek. I think they sold us out. I think we could have done with 32 maybe just to start. But you know, in the absence of labor union organizing and advocacy, there is no sort of leverage for the individual worker. Like hr. Human resources doesn't represent the individual worker. They represent the company and the liability basically protection for the company. So I think labor unions are super important and this is what I'm trying to explore together.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ryan]

Blue collar. Okay, awesome. This implies sort of working class and this is what leftist folks are trying to invite us to be mindful of is class consciousness. And so brilliant. This is something that we can agree on and this is something that we can maybe work toward maybe finding other areas of agreement.

[Mike]

Yeah, I made, I made a shirt once that said support your Local union. And that's when I realized I had bitten off a little bit more than I could chew because I meant it for law enforcement at the time. And people were walking around and it was either hell yeah, nice shirt. Which you can tell a guy has definitely been a blue collar lower middle class has benefited from a union before. And then there was people posting and commenting saying that I was a communist. And I'm like, for supporting a union, what the hell? They're like, that's tied to communism. And you know, oh. I was like, okay, well I, I, I, I do see how the origins of it have communist feels. But at the end of the day we don't agree with billion dollar corporations treating their employees like right.

[Tyler]

I don't know, they should be able to. And I don't know if you know this. There is an actual exception to all those federal laws when it comes to work weeks. Law enforcement is removed from those. So I know you're not a huge fan of law enforcement, but we are actually on the scale where the 40 hour work week does not apply to us. And none of those federal laws apply to sheriff's offices or police departments. We're actually allowed to work more at less pay. Unless we can't be, we can't get overtime after 40 hours. We're not bound to it. And I went through, I did this whole deep dive over the weekend because of the way they're screwing up time cards and it's all these rules that apply to everybody else in America. And then it says law enforcement exception. You can work 86 hours in two weeks not be compensated. And if you call out sick or take a vacation day and you had extra hours, the agency has the right to remove those hours and not pay you for them. So there is a little quirkiness in the, in the union and the law when it comes to the 40 hour workweek for law enforcement. That's where I say we get screwed a little bit more. We don't have to talk about anything else in law enforcement, but in that aspect, law enforcement is, money is taken away from them in that area.

[Ryan]

That's really interesting. And the plight of the underpaid law enforcement officer in the United States is something I'm totally unfamiliar with, particularly in the context of the majority of city budgets go towards law enforcement. It's interesting to hear over time, specifically because I've heard of situations where cops will call out sick, do a private protection job and then work overtime.

[Tyler]

Well, when I say I'm confusing it and then that's Let me clear that up just a little bit. When you work over, when you work at extra duty, higher detail by a private entity, you're paid specifically by them to you. So if you have 3 million vacation hours and I go, you know, I'm take off Friday and Saturday, the agency is going to pay me for my vacation. But during that vacation, instead of going to the beach, I'm going to go work a construction detail and get paid by fpnl Florida Power and Light to do so. That is one aspect what you're talking. If they're calling out sick and work in agency, they should be arrested. They're committing, they're double dipping and it's. You're starting to see it more. You might have even sent one. I think we're starting to see more and more. Even Jacksonville just had a guy that was like taking off work and was working. He had like 200 hours that he never really worked and he was putting his name down. So. Yes, but when you think overtime. Yeah, but. Yes, but when you hear overtime, don't always assume I'm saying that they're working extra for the agency. A lot of times I'll take a vacation day. It's mine, I earned it. I'm taking the day off. And then let's say that DMV is going to pay me to go sit there for eight hours and get paid separately by them. That's the difference. But I, I get where you're going with the underpaid cop. I'm not, I'm not crying about money, specifically the pay.

[Ryan]

Thank you.

[Tyler]

I'm just saying there are issues where law enforcement is treated differently and a regular civilian would get the overtime where a law enforcement officer wouldn't.

[Anthony]

We also don't have as many rules like as far as, like, like think about.

[Tyler]

Come on, Lewis. Yeah, come on. You guys saw it real time, didn't you? It snap back in. Good.

[Mike]

Like, where's that voice coming from?

[Tyler]

Forgot I was here.

[Anthony]

No, like DOT regulations, stuff like that. Like we're not. We don't have the same rules as that. Like we can go and work for 48 hours straight with no sleep. Like truckers have to stop and take rest. You know, that's part of the regulations and stuff. We don't have a lot of stuff like that.

[Tyler]

Which is dangerous. Yes, that's why. Yeah, they have to. Yeah. You get a copy where? In la, I believe in la, out by you. In la, they've waived the rules and they're allowed to work up to like four straight 16 hour shifts because of manpower. So you got cops that are getting three or four hours sleep a night and for. For four days in a row. Just. I cannot. Sitting in that car for one day sucks.

[Anthony]

It's crazy because you look at like reaction time and studies on that. It's like you're the equivalent of a one like a.

[Tyler]

You're drunk.

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You're drunk.

[Mike]

Oh yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And you have a pistol.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. And a stick and some spray.

[Mike]

You know, when I'm tired, man, I just want to go oppress. That's like.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's usually when I drive down like MLK and start find a tag leg. No, but it is Dana. That part is dangerous. I agree that hours work, but we can go round and round because of manpower and lack of support and cops being targeted in certain parts of the country for just doing their job. That it creates a manpower issue which then leads to the overtime issue which leads to bad decisions and poor brain fog. Maybe to. That causes bad things to happen.

[Mike]

I mean and to be fair, right my. My last agency I worked at day shift started at 5am 5 in the morning. The union could not change that. That was not. Everybody hated it. So in order to be at work in your zone at 5am you have to leave your house around 4:30, which means you have to be up at 4 and you have to be able to make a call at 505 where you might have to kill somebody. And no one took that into consideration. You know, sleep and rest and it blows my mind. Like morning shifts. It's not, it's not really. I'm not trying to say cops are better, but if you work at an office job, you got to be there at nine. I mean you can have your coffee at nine. You don't have to make any decisions that are going to take away someone's freedoms or their life. So there's a little bit of grace when it comes to like getting to work. You're a little. You're a little tired.

[Ryan]

And part of that like did. Was there a commute involved in that?

[Mike]

It depends on where you work. So I. I lived without traffic, 30 minutes away from where I was supposed to be patrolling. And by. It can be considered time theft. It could be depending on who's looking at it and who wants to jam you up. If you're not able to do your job in your zone because you're not there on time. So even though you're in the general area, if a call comes out, that means the taxpayer is Waiting on you to get your ass in gear. And so I just, I feel like, you know, and that, that again, if time theft is a very, very fluid thing, because to me it's double dipping. Like you're talking about a guy getting paid by the taxpayers in the government and then go ahead.

[Ryan]

Well, there is so much like fraud, waste and abuse by the government, so, you know, by people like becoming millionaires.

[Mike]

Right.

[Ryan]

And so there's this idea, you know, what is it? Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I shit on company time.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

So I'm, you know, all about working class folks clawing back their time however they feel, you know, creatively, that's important. There is this idea of like commuter cops though, that I want to like kind of bring in. Where one idea to sort of reform, you know, is community policing. Whereas a commuter cop doesn't have the same sort of investment in the neighborhood if they're not living there, grocery shopping there, going to church, going to church there. Right. Like not an integrated member of the community and just kind of punch out, go back home. Right. Because I do have to uplift. You know, a lot of communities are over policed, under resourced and surviving engineered inequality.

[Mike]

Well, I will say this, and I'll let Mike touch on the over police part, but I will say that my. I believe you really can't change a really bad area. Let's use Oakland, for example. We've both talked about how Oakland is a bad area for, for our own argument, right. You said, why don't you go down to Oakland and say that? Implying that there's people there that would do unfavorable things to one another. Right? So Oakland.

[Ryan]

Let's, let's clarify.

[Mike]

Let's clarify.

[Ryan]

If you ran around singing along with songs that included the N word, but if you.

[Tyler]

Hold on, I gotta get in. You want me to believe that in my pink shorts I'm wearing pink shorts today and my, my war hat. You think if I walk down one of the highest gang ridden areas of Oakland with my current state of skin color, that I would be just one of the guys? You want me to believe that you'd

[Ryan]

be fine as long as you mind your own business.

[Tyler]

Why does the stereotypes, all you hear in stereotypes of like black males wearing the wrong colors in that area? Can't walk down that street, I'm told. I see it. You can't. You're either cripple your blood and you can't be one or the other. And if you walk in to a red Hat area. Even as a black male, you're going to be targeted. So how do you want me to believe that as a white male, I could walk through, my hat is half blue, half red down the middle and I'm split. How am I going to fit in just fine when people of their own culture can't fit in?

[Ryan]

I think you said it when you mentioned the word stereotype. This is the right image that has been projected through all the copaganda. Right. That has led us to believe. And one thing I'll invite you to kind of just remember is that I heard Los Angeles brought up earlier. I'm in San Francisco. We don't have the same sort of red blue gang kind of.

[Mike]

They just have homeless people fashion.

[Tyler]

No, I see. I have, there's a, there's a site I follow called Tenderloin Activities. That's a neighborhood over there, right? All he posts is San Francisco and it doesn't look very nice.

[Mike]

Well, I'd like to.

[Tyler]

I don't know he's a stereotype in anybody. I just see a lot of crazy things that don't happen in some other places.

[Ryan]

No, it's curious, you know, I talking about community policing, right. I do community mental health and I live and work on 6th street, which is basically Tenderloin South.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Ryan]

And it's really fascinating in these conditions of sort of late stage capitalism, sunset of the empire. And I'm curious about like poverty porn, right. Where, you know, people are filming, you know, people that are suffering, poor people

[Tyler]

living on the street. Nobody's gonna watch a video of a bunch of people getting along and hanging around and doing the right thing. Nobody wants to see that. Sad.

[Lewis]

Like, where are we?

[Ryan]

Why don't you?

[Tyler]

That's the Instagram era. Like, like I said, you could get online and talk about the most important thing and how great everything is, and they're gonna be like, yeah, bye. Oh, here's two people fighting. I'm gonna watch that. Like, we're addicted to drama. We're addicted to pain, suffering, fights, watching people get their ass beat. We're addicted to that as a society. And I, and I don't. That's a huge. But I agree with you.

[Ryan]

I think part of our society is. And then I think it's balanced. And another part of our society is trying to help and trying to like, relieve people's suffering, right. Not make caricatures of them for social media spectacles.

[Tyler]

I think there's people. I don't care what side or what group they are. I think in general Everywhere there are people who want everything to be okay. Not just left. Right, Whatever. There are people and then there are people on both sides that don't want everybody to be okay.

[Ryan]

And so bringing it back to the blue collar, right? As blue collar working class folks, we are incredibly more closely connected to our neighbor living on the streets. Right. Suffering from substance use issues than the.

[Mike]

What?

[Ryan]

I think we got five or 50. Excuse me, I don't remember the number, but billionaires in San Francisco, you want to talk about tenderloin when we got all this excess, right, that can't exist without this. Yeah, it's directly connected, gentlemen. So this is. Thank you. I love when we agree. This is beautiful.

[Tyler]

I've always used the example like, unfortunately. And we knock like fast food workers, right? They're the worst. Like you're working McDonald's, who's gonna run? I mean, somebody's got to work there, right? And I always said, like, you can't knock those people because you don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. Right. But somebody does it and. And without it, we don't have it. So you're right. Where is the. The balance is that there's a certain amount of people have so much money, but in order for them to have so much money, there has to be all these people. With zero, there has no. I agree, I agree with that.

[Ryan]

And so then let's bring it back to the police, right? What is the role of the police? I'm gonna. Because I'm gonna say a lot of folks on the left, right?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Police are working class folks. We are in the same class. However, some say, I won't, I won't, I won't be the one. But I'll say police are class traitors.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Ryan]

Because the police serve as that buffer, Right. Between the poor and the wealthy.

[Mike]

Right.

[Ryan]

And protect property. That's why we got a San Francisco police officer sitting there on his phone outside the Apple store every day.

[Mike]

Money, money, money. Well, what I was going to say before you gaslit me and change the subject. You're good. I'm just kidding. When I was talking about the neighborhoods that might be a little bit more unruly or unfavorable to go to. It's gonna take people from within that neighborhood to change it. Right? So if I go and I'm just. I gotta use my words because I know we're kind of rushed for time. That's my fault. But I gotta use my words to get my point. Even though you don't Agree with them. If I'm working in the hood and I'm a 23 year old college student that just got my bachelor's in criminal justice and they throw me in the hood do you think I'm going to do any good in that hood or do you think that someone that grew up in that hood, went to the law enforcement academy, graduated and now works in the zone in the area that he grew up in can do more change? What do you think? Which one do you think is going to do more constructive change?

[Ryan]

I think we got to be mindful of the hood is really community surviving engineered inequality. Yes. This is so important to remember. Different communities have different access to options and choices and upward social mobility. The prison industrial complex and the military industrial complex intersect in the same low income communities. Those of us that escape the school to prison pipeline by luck or by privilege are often funneled into violent servitude in the military to clamber toward this myth of upward social mobility.

[Mike]

Somebody once we'd had a super chat. I deal with labor union for my employees. The most useless organization there is. They just want their dues. So that's Jefferson newbies take on it. And I do think anything can get hijacked. Any idea can get hijacked.

[Ryan]

I didn't be interested in how involved this comrade is in his local union. Was he involved in the bargaining team? Is he involved in committees? What contribution is his comrade making to his local labor union? And there's been so much anti union propaganda. Let's be mindful that technology, all this innovation cannot be confused with liberation. It's going to lead to labor displacement. Right.

[Mike]

Do you. Do you believe in police unions or only labor unions?

[Ryan]

I don't believe in the police but

[Tyler]

I believe I knew that was coming. I mean that was a layup. That was a layup.

[Mike]

I don't believe.

[Tyler]

What do you think before you have. You have to go. I don't have to go. What do you think about Governor Newsome? I know he's made a lot of money since he's been in office and he spent a lot of money on the homeless. I think $5 billion.

[Mike]

Did it get better?

[Ryan]

Listen, the one time I called 988 was when Governor Brown vetoed a bill that I worked on for two years that passed the House and Senate nearly unanimously and he vetoed it and it broke my heart and I felt like harming myself and I stumped the suicide hotline because I wanted to set myself on fire. It was a political suicide, not a Stress or depression related suicide, please Ryan RIP Aaron Bushnell. And so Governor News we, you know, lobbied again the next year and Governor Newsom signed our bill SB 34, restoring you know, this culture of compassion to California cannabis culture. So I thank him for that. Always will. Anything else Sus? Don't trust them, right?

[Mike]

Like you don't have anything negative to say about him. You don't like the police, but you just think Newsom is sus. Is it just because you're not allowed to say anything negative about a democratically elected governor?

[Ryan]

Nah, I don't trust no, I'm not a fan of Democrats, I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a liberal. I'm a leftist, right? I'm a far leftist. So I don't trust Newsom. I don't trust his flip flopping on the Zionist occupation of Palestine that people call Israel, right? I believe Israel is going to go the way of Rhodesia in our lifetimes, God willing. And so that's just a fundamental right. Notice that, notice that flip flop. Newsom panders towards developers. Newsom is shown for photo ops displacing homeless folks from like under bridges. Like really bro, you're gonna roll up your sleeves and do this? The Epstein files exist and this is your priority, right? Like all my 2A Alpha bros, right? Epstein files exist. Tyrannical government exists and y' all like

[Tyler]

that.

[Mike]

I think a lot of the two way the two a Boogaloo bros would love to raid Epsteed Island. We every, I, I think that's something that could bring this country together is the fact that we've got no answers from that.

[Anthony]

Why do you think it's so dark? Like nobody's answering any questions on it? Because they don't want.

[Tyler]

Because they're all on the list and

[Mike]

they don't want the unity.

[Tyler]

Don't want the unity.

[Anthony]

They don't want people.

[Tyler]

One thing people are going to get together about the two things, right? Gambling and children being harmed. Everybody's going to agree that children do not need to be harmed. And I don't care if you're a redneck living in Alabama in the woods or you're a high rise communist in the west coast. Everybody's gonna greet children shouldn't be harmed

[Ryan]

and gambling would be reduced with reduced social stratification, right? Us working and poor folks think we can get rich with a lottery ticket, right? Or my statistics professor said the lottery is for people that don't understand statistics and desperate poor people, right? I know people that have gotten on the bus That'll take them to the reservation to. With $10 in their pocket like their last.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Thinking they're gonna come back with the jackpot.

[Ryan]

You feel me? And so this is part of being poor and working class.

[Mike]

Right? Is this.

[Ryan]

We'll get. This is where bitcoin came from, right, Epstein? Bitcoin. So, so glad we had this conversation. I look forward to chatting again next week.

[Mike]

Hey, next week I want to pick your brain on Indian reservations. All right. Think about that.

[Ryan]

Let's. God willing, let's do it. I hope I can do my best with that. Thank you for the heads up. So I have some Ryan's research.

[Mike]

Ryan a. A Marine Communist with compassionateveterans.org no matter what your take is on life, I think we all agree that veterans need help and. Right. Ryan is a key component in that. So please go to compassionate veterans.org you're helping veterans no matter what your ideology is. Thank you, Ryan, so much.

[Ryan]

Right on, gentlemen.

[Mike]

Peace. Thank you. Somebody asked who's muscle beach guy in the back. So let's go back. Put the camera on Anthony. This is Anthony with Heroic Nation podcast or Heroic Industries. Personal training, fitness, stuff like that if you want. I mean I can literally see your muscle tears through your skin, so it looks good if you want that. Anthony is a full time law enforcement officer, SWAT operator and a guru when it comes to fitness and health. And he loves it. And I, trust me when I say he loves it. You gotta. Anthony's the type of guy that you got to tell him to charge for it because he just wants to get

[Anthony]

it off for free most of the time.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So yeah, he's. He's in town visiting us, but we've got. I think he's gonna have a conniption. But we got G Money over here looking down the whole time as the Marine communists spoke. G Money. How you doing, bud?

[Lewis]

Yeah, I was throwing the up in my trash can listening to that nonsense. The out of here, dude. Come on, man. And is he gay? There's nothing wrong with gay people, dude. But his mannerisms just scream on the I'm gay, dude. Fake curated nonsense. The out of here. Cops are. Cops are class traders. First off, cops are middle class. They're not poor. So how are they trading from being a poor dumb dude? There you go.

[Mike]

Right?

[Lewis]

No, they're not rich either. They're middle class. Stupid take, dude.

[Tyler]

Probably middle of lower. Yeah, they're on the lower side of middle class.

[Mike]

Yeah, and I don't middle class, dude.

[Lewis]

They're not poor. Stop it.

[Tyler]

No, they're not poor.

[Mike]

We're an extension of our population, man. Like, we're elected essentially by the. The sheriff. Like, if you would elect a sheriff or you would elect a mayor who appoints a chief, we're all extensions of what the public elected. We are representation of the people. People like Ryan, I think, think we're. We're boot. We're soldiers, we're boots for the government. We're just not.

[Anthony]

But it's. It's funny. He's okay with it when it's on the one side, but when it's on the other side, it's not okay.

[Lewis]

Yeah, you know, exactly. Anthony. What's up, brother?

[Tyler]

The other. The other thing is, obviously nobody likes to be told what to do at all. And cops are always going to be hated. I don't care if you like cops. The second a cop pulls you over

[Mike]

speeding,

[Tyler]

stupid cop wrote me. Like, it doesn't matter how pro police

[Mike]

you are, or the rich white lady that called the chief a million times about her stop sign and speeder, and then she or her son gets caught. Oh, dude, it's hell. You know who I know?

[Tyler]

I'm above you, you. Everybody wants rules until the rules apply to them. And then it's like, oh, never mind. I didn't want that.

[Mike]

I don't support the police anymore.

[Tyler]

Yeah, what's up, G Money? How's the. How's the celebrity status, man? Mr. Tiger King?

[Lewis]

Yeah, dude,

[Tyler]

I'm still. I'm still fanboying over that, man.

[Mike]

Boying over that.

[Tyler]

That's cool, dude.

[Mike]

He sent me the audio clip of the. You're watching the anti hero broadcast. He's like, dude, I can't get over. He just said that.

[Tyler]

That's great.

[Lewis]

Yeah, it's good stuff, man. Yeah. I'll tell you what, He's a gentleman. He's a nice guy. He's getting railroaded. I don't understand how a conviction which is all centered on one guy's testimony, which is pretty much where that conviction came from. The guy under affidavit. Affidavit, sworn affidavit under oath, swearing he committed perjury. The $3,000 he was allegedly paid to do that hit on Carol Baskin. Carol Baskin. He said he stole the money and he quit voluntarily and left and went to work with Jeff Lowe, who's a felon already, Notorious scam artist. It's really up, dude. This is what the feds do. There's a small branch of them that are just like the mafia. They'll lean on you. I watch them cops over who are completely innocent because they're going after a target cop and they'll lean on these guys. I'm not gonna mention any names or departments, but they want it. We'll say cop A, right? Cop A was wanted for doing something. Cop B had nothing to do with anything whatsoever. Complete nothing, dude. Right. And they leaned on cop B so hard that they end up locking him up and perp walking him out of his house at 5am because he wouldn't swear to his statement that they gave him the say and swear to. And he stood his ground. He ended up winning, you know, getting charges dismissed. But they'll. Dude, they're dirty, man. It's what they do. So I, I understand. Like if you watch the Merlino podcast, he goes through it how, how they get. They give these mobsters carte blanche as long as they're testifying against the target guy that the feds want. These. These mobsters can go out and murder, rape, steal, sell drugs and they have a license to do it. It's sickening. Dude, no one's here to watch the watchers.

[Tyler]

Well, here and here. I'm going to transition because I want you on for this. The disgusting verdict that came out of New York yesterday. This is Jonathan Diller. He was killed last 2024. They got a call for a suspicious person, armed. The suspect exited the vehicle and shot him point blank range in those right underneath his vest. And he died. The verdict came back in yesterday's trial and the suspect was found not guilty of first degree murder. He's found guilty of a lesser charge of manslaughter.

[Mike]

So they're. They're. This is what kills me is they're acknowledging that he killed him.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And I'm gonna read you the definition of first.

[Mike]

Like they're not.

[Tyler]

It'd be different.

[Lewis]

Read what manslaughter is.

[Tyler]

Here's a. I don't have manslaughter up. If you want to pull it up. I pulled up first murder. First degree murder in the state of New York is a person guilty of first commuter when they intentionally cause the death of another person in one or more aggravated factors. Factor number one is killing a police officer. So this guy killed a police officer point blank range. Not accident, not anything else. Shot him directly under the vest point blank when he got out of the vehicle. And in the United States of America, we can have a person found not guilty of the very charge that was created for just that specific incident. So unfortunate incident that you imagine the family. I know there's not much left to hang on to other than justice for the person that killed your loved one. And to, to hear the words not guilty of first degree murder when somebody shot a police officer point black range for just doing his job is disgusting. And that shows the direction of New York, the city, the people up in New York. And it's a, it's a disaster that a family has to. Now imagine, regardless of what happens to

[Mike]

this guy, can you imagine losing your husband or your father? And it's been this long and you go to the court for four, the only thing that you can.

[Tyler]

Only thing left.

[Mike]

You got life insurance, right? Cool. That's probably right.

[Tyler]

It's got college paid for.

[Mike]

But the one thing that you want most is seeing your husband or father's killer incarcerated for murder. And they let, they give them a man.

[Tyler]

They downgraded to man.

[Mike]

The thing is, I'm telling you, like, if everybody can wrap their head around this real quick, they are acknowledging the fact that he killed that officer. What they're. It would be different if it was a hung jury and it was not guilty. It's different. It's up, but it's different. There's some like, hey, there just wasn't enough to say this guy did it beyond a reasonable doubt. Right. That's, that's part of court. We can all have our opinions, but the fact that they're acknowledging that he killed him and then. But they're saying. But we're only going to call it manslaughter over murder.

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Lewis]

Yeah, manslaughter. Manslaughter. You know, I'll read the definition. But the easiest way to understand manslaughter is without, without intent, you know, more of an accident. So if you, if you were driving a car, you're looking at your phone and you ran someone over and killed him, you could be charged with manslaughter. You didn't go out that day to intend it to kill someone. You didn't do it at that moment. You know, you didn't have any, any forethought or planning about it. It was an accident that happened because you were. Yeah. Negligent malfeasance. You know what? Not so the definition is manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice or, or forethought, premeditation or intent to kill. So this guy shot a cop, he had malice and absolute intent to kill. You don't.

[Tyler]

20 previous convictions.

[Lewis]

Yeah. You don't see somebody without the intent to cause serious bodily harm. Not to mention you Know the way the statutes read across the country, if you commit an act of violence on a cop, it's an automatic felony. If you kill a cop, it's an automatic murder one.

[Tyler]

Yeah. First three months in this case, the gentleman, you know, the piece of. They were actually staking out a T Mobile store to rob it. No, he wasn't. So there's. They're like. They were surveilling the car. They got a call and they said that, hey, the passenger got in the car with a gun. This guy partnered another person walked up, he started to remove the guy from the car. And talk about premeditated. He even goes point blank below the vest to intentionally make sure that vest is missed kills this guy. What's that?

[Lewis]

Was it up close?

[Tyler]

Yeah, it was right as he was opening the door, he shot him in with the right.

[Lewis]

Oh, so he put it right against him.

[Tyler]

It was a. It was like almost a contact shot. I don't know what it could be. I don't know what is the judge's fault.

[Lewis]

So a lot of blame would land on the judge.

[Tyler]

They tried to say the defense was an unintentional discharge.

[Anthony]

That's psychotic.

[Tyler]

I didn't mean to pull the trigger with my finger on it. I did with the gun in my hands.

[Anthony]

Even though you were pointing it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So they went with no evidence that he intended to shoot him.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, to be fair, the female cops

[Mike]

do it with their tasers.

[Tyler]

Oh, well, that.

[Lewis]

I mean, I'd like to know, you

[Tyler]

know, like to me, premeditated is having a gun, being going out to do a robbery. 20 previous convictions of crimes. And when the cop gets you out, your hand is on, near, around or any way touching the gun at that point, you have made a decision that you. That you are you. You chose that.

[Mike]

So they said the partner that was with that cop that got shot grabbed the suspect's hand.

[Tyler]

She caused the gun. Oh, she.

[Mike]

But she denies that.

[Anthony]

Sounds like a lot of smoke.

[Tyler]

She. Yeah, but again, but let a cop accidentally shoot somebody in that same scenario. And off you go, buddy. The feds so sick ruling that city is in big trouble. I feel for the nypd, it was the first line of duty shooting death since 2022. So they had gone quite a while.

[Mike]

22 is quite a while.

[Tyler]

Yeah. 22 to 24. Two years or some change. They had gone without losing an officer. And then this poor guy.

[Mike]

What part of New York?

[Tyler]

I was in Queens, I believe.

[Mike]

Oh, so it's nypd?

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, it was nypd. Okay.

[Lewis]

I'd like to know. I'd like to know the judge's disposition or political leanings because he obviously didn't do a good job of charging the. The jury and breaking down what the charges are.

[Anthony]

And the prosecutor like that prosecutor like the fact that the prosecutor was just like, yeah, well, we're gonna let this happen.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You know?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. No. Even if it's not guilty people that, that movie Law abiding said citizen says it perfectly. You work hard as a district attorney and it gets dropped, but you give it your best. I can live with that. But when you start making negotiations with criminals to. To get a win for yourself, I think that's where the last look the

[Tyler]

whole thing, like arguing the fact that the guy with the gun getting ready to do a robbery is in any way not intentionally responsible for the cup. You could have stayed in bed. You could have went to the park. You could have done a million other things that day, but you chose to grab a gun, go do a robbery. And then we got caught. You got out with the gun in your hand, Will. Or whether somebody grabbed it or not.

[Mike]

What were you doing to with that gun? Like, like Anthony said to scare them.

[Tyler]

Right. That would be the only other. Pulled it out and it was pointed at the cop. It was ready to fire because your finger was on the trigger. But you didn't mean it. You didn't mean it. And again, I look at. Even if she does try to grab the gun, you chose to put yourself in all those scenarios you're guilty of. First to be murder. Your decisions premeditated led to the death of a police officer. You suck. That's my take.

[Mike]

Anybody else here in an echo? No.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I was just texting Mike that you have a really bad echo when you talk.

[Ryan]

Mike.

[Mike]

I don't think it's a tv. When I turn. Let me, let me.

[Lewis]

If you have something else on with your sound, it's going to echo.

[Tyler]

Check, check, check. Better? No. You don't want to participate. Is it better?

[Mike]

I can't hear you. Check one, two. I, I, I. Yeah, I feel.

[Lewis]

Yeah, you're not echoing.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, it was Mike, but now Mike's not echoing anymore.

[Tyler]

All right, we're back.

[Mike]

We're back.

[Lewis]

Yeah. You brought up Law abiding Citizen. I'm actually.

[Mike]

I love that movie.

[Lewis]

I'm in it. I star in it. I was co. Staring.

[Mike]

No, you're not.

[Lewis]

Yes, I am. Where I got called to be an extra and they said, just bring a white T shirt and black shoes. So I go down there. I'm still a cop at the time, and it's actually right across the street from my house in Holmesburg Prison. And you know what? I end up being a cop that gave me my entire Philly police uniform.

[Mike]

So you wore a Hollywood one?

[Lewis]

No, I wore a one that they gave me, but it's the same thing. And then I'm standing there and this, like, PA comes up to me. She goes, cops don't stand like that, honey. This is what they do. I said, okay, thanks.

[Mike]

You're right. Wait, so what scene were you.

[Lewis]

So you remember where he blows up the cars in the parking lot?

[Mike]

Yep.

[Lewis]

I'm in the crime scene after that, talking to a detective in the background. You see me walk to the patrol car and get in.

[Mike]

Get out of here. He's a movie star. Nikki G. Money is a movie star.

[Anthony]

Dude, I can't believe they typecast you like that. That's right.

[Tyler]

You make role at the end. G Money, like, extra.

[Lewis]

I didn't make the credits.

[Mike]

If we watch it, could we find you in point?

[Lewis]

Yes, yes.

[Mike]

Movie star.

[Lewis]

Also in that new. That new TV show just came out with that flaming liberal. The guy who plays the Hawk, The Incredible Hawk.

[Mike]

Oh, Mark Ruffalo.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Mia Mark Ruffalo. Whatever TV show he just made that just came out on hbo, I'm in that, too.

[Tyler]

Our boy Frank Rigo from Miami Dade, Spot the Commander, he's in two movies down there. Like in an escort scene. He was telling me other day. Yeah, that's cool. They did the same thing. Like, they said that they're like, hey, we need a couple cops to do this. So your movie star, that should go right on the top of your resume, man.

[Lewis]

Right? I'm in another movie. I can't remember.

[Tyler]

Greatest. The second greatest American behind Huck Finn. Barbell.

[Lewis]

Yeah, He kind of ruined that whole hall of Fame thing.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he took the whole award and just. That's it.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You can start a new one. Jv. No, you should start another one. The second best American Award, everybody.

[Lewis]

Normal Americans.

[Mike]

Did we ever give up on that 24 hour driving race thing that we're

[Tyler]

gonna do next year?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

No, it's associated with some guy.

[Mike]

We were gonna sign up for a race where you pay 500 for. It's a lemon.

[Tyler]

Lemon. Lemons.

[Mike]

Lemon lemons, something like that. And we were gonna. You pay 500, the car can only cost 500. And you race it for 24 hours and you have a crew and like.

[Lewis]

Like Cannonball Run.

[Tyler]

It's in a Track and it's like three eight hour days remembers they weren't going to help us out.

[Mike]

We've got like people offering.

[Tyler]

Just so you guys know, Tyler just downgraded you guys to the 99 cent.

[Mike]

I said the 99.

[Tyler]

No, you did not.

[Mike]

The 90.

[Tyler]

You 99 centers, man. You ain't even a dollar.

[Mike]

They're on the dollar menu.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I.

[Mike]

She's not laughing.

[Tyler]

No, no, she's not even listening. Thank God.

[Mike]

Something about a dollar maybe. Yeah, we're gonna get a 500 lemon and get a team together and race it in like northern Florida or something. You race for 24 hours, you switch out drivers and it just sounds like a lot of fun. Would you do it with us, Nick?

[Lewis]

Yeah, I'll do that.

[Tyler]

All right. Team coming. Hey, you know what I was thinking, I'll say it right on the air. You're. Oh, Bronson does his name Branson Bronson. Yeah. He's got enough connections, you've got enough connections up there that you should be getting him in on the south thing.

[Lewis]

I would run that by him eventually.

[Tyler]

So last night Dominic right at the end of our show. And I'll let Dominic talk when he comes on. He's got some new thing. I'll let him talk about when he comes on, what he's doing with that new committee he's got. But for you, I was thinking on the way here like maybe packet get some, some people up there and his next court dates in June and he goes to trial and allegedly in September. But such a stupid case. I didn't know if maybe Pat would be able to pull some strings up that way.

[Lewis]

I already sent it to him. He's been checking it out.

[Tyler]

Good.

[Mike]

Yo Nick, are you good, are you good with coming back on around 12:30 and let's talk. We got to talk about this. The, the moon orbit.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

This shuttle that's up there and then we'll obviously we'll go into the moon landing and how none of this is real, but. Okay.

[Lewis]

Yeah, dude, I, I like listen, just quick hit on that. Elon Musk was on the record first saying that you need 15 to 16 refuel tankers to make it there. But then he downgraded that to 4 to 5. So how the are we making it up there? And I'm reading some that they're using like orbital slingshots around the moon and, and just they don't need as much energy because they're only 6, 000 miles away. Yeah, yeah. It's like crazy dude. So.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

Yeah. And they don't have to land so they can get away without doing it, without all that refueling.

[Mike]

This would all be great when we actually talk about it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. There's a topic coming up, 12:30 real quick.

[Mike]

I want to say everything about it right now.

[Lewis]

That's it.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Lewis]

I won't be back.

[Mike]

All right, well, we got a couple minutes before we go on commercial break. But I wanted to kind of like Anthony, you know, kind of came all the way here.

[Tyler]

Yeah, pump it up, man. Pump your stuff. Pump your socials. Tell everybody why you want to help law enforcement officers get in better shape. Give us the, give us the rundown.

[Anthony]

Yeah. So, you know, I've been in law enforcement for 18 years now and I've done like, I want to say, like almost everything you can do on the job at least once. But in addition to that, you know, I've. I ran a CrossFit gym, an affiliate, for almost a decade as like a, like a part time job. Right. So I did both and then sold that a couple years ago. But the whole reason I started it was because there's, there's such a gap to close in in terms of health and fitness and, and also just strength and conditioning for law enforcement, for the job. And I come from a background of like, you know, college sports and, and coaching. My dad was coach and I played football in college, that kind of stuff. And it's like there are so many athletic based things that are, that are so closely related to this job that we just don't even view ourselves as athletes. And it's like if we just change that little mindset. And it's like, well, you, you're on a job that you have to take a fitness test for. Granted, the bar is very low, but there is still a test. If I want to be an accountant, there's no test for my physical skills to get in, you know, so like, you have to take that and say, well, I have to, I have to be some type of an athlete in order to do this job. Therefore, if I, if I make that connection and like, it makes training make a lot more sense.

[Tyler]

And you've had some injuries in your life, right?

[Anthony]

I've had a shitload of injuries.

[Tyler]

Tell me about those, dude.

[Mike]

He's like, rub up.

[Tyler]

I'm going somewhere with this. Hold on. Tell me about those.

[Anthony]

Yeah. So I've been torn apart and put back together probably 16 different times. I found out when I was like in my mid-30s, I started having some hip issues and I get X rayed Ortho tells me, like, hey, man, you

[Mike]

look like you're in your early 30s. I found out back in the day in my mid-30s.

[Anthony]

Like, yeah, well, you know, like, dude, you got no joint space in your hips. You're gonna need both replaced. And it was, like, such a shot. I was like, dude, I'm an athlete. I'm a. Like a competitive crossfitter at the time, a jiu jitsu, you know, SWAT guy. Like, what the am I gonna do? You know? So it took about four, five years, and both my hips fell apart. I hadn't replaced one at a time. I've had a couple elbow scopes, knee scopes, two discs in my neck replaced. That was a full.

[Tyler]

No, no. You got all the excuses in the world to go it. I'm just. I'm just gonna lay up, take it easy. And obviously you're not well.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Anthony]

And it. You know, it's really kind of like. Like everybody's got something they struggle with. And you see, especially on social media, like, big transformations, right? Like dudes losing a bunch of weight or people coming back from being really obese. It's like, well, I don't have that story, but especially in law enforcement, like, you can say the same thing, I guess, about fire. But this job will break you at some point. Like, it'll break you in some way, like, physically through getting. Getting fat, right? Getting a bunch of weight. For me, it wasn't that. It was just like, joint by joint. Like, my body's falling apart. Some of it due to genetics and some of it due to just me beating the. The out of myself over the years. But. But, yeah. So, like, your options are roll over and die or figure it the out.

[Tyler]

People will look at you and be like, oh, he's got it easy just based on your. Because you're muscular. Oh, you must have. He's genetically fine. He's got it easy. They don't realize you're pieced back together.

[Anthony]

Some things are easy, and some things are very hard, you know? And that's for everybody. Everybody carries their own cross.

[Mike]

Is waking up in the morning hard? Is that just me? Like, do you really feel like you have no oil and anything in your body? Like, oh, my God.

[Tyler]

The other thing I wanted to point out is there's not a real hip on the couch. Yeah, everybody's had a. Everybody's had on the couch has had both their hips replaced. So. Yeah.

[Mike]

What's. I mean, looking at it, big picture, too. I'm a big advocate of being optimal as a Male.

[Tyler]

Except for that Thursday night video, Shut the Up.

[Mike]

That was lighting and angles. Okay. Anyways, but I don't think you have to be like, could do you have to be a cop to use anything of what you're talking about. If you wanted to be a dad that's in shape, a coach. Like, I got. I gotta coach these kids. I want to look like at least like I know what I'm doing. I think it's important for everybody to. To be optimal. And I feel like you get in a routine, I'm victim of it, where you just. You do the same thing over and over and over again. You're like, that's good. At least I'm doing that. And I've called you many times. Hey, dude, I haven't asked somebody this in like 15 years, but how. How do I do this?

[Anthony]

Yeah, well, and. And what I really like about getting back to, like, on the back end of, like, you know, I started my gym to coach cops.

[Tyler]

And.

[Anthony]

And really I wanted to run that for my department. They didn't want that. So I was like, it, I'll just start my own gym. And like, selling my. Selling that and then being able to start this online stuff, it provides me a way to get back to those, like, kind of roots. But what I've learned is that, you know, as. As cops, we don't need a ton of, like, fancy. You know what I mean? Like, you need the basics, you need the fundamentals. And really that's like, that's what everybody needs. And it's just how you apply those fundamentals, like, to your specific life.

[Mike]

And can. For the. Can they get the app through your website or do they have to do that? Is that. Is that a mobile thing?

[Anthony]

So you can get it through my Instagram. There's a link on my Instagram. Or you can just go to app. Heroic industries hq.com.

[Tyler]

you're not gonna remember all that.

[Mike]

Heroic Industries.

[Anthony]

Took me a second to remember, too.

[Mike]

H Q. Not cute. I can't spell. Oh, this site doesn't exist. App.

[Anthony]

It does too.

[Mike]

I probably spelled it. Give me two seconds.

[Tyler]

Which one?

[Mike]

Okay, it doesn't exist.

[Tyler]

I'm.

[Mike]

Oh, that's because I put aoo, not app.

[Tyler]

That'll do it.

[Mike]

Jawline. What's that?

[Tyler]

It's getting rough in there.

[Anthony]

And I. I also. I also made a discount code for anybody listening Anti Hero 26. And that'll get you your first month for free.

[Tyler]

Beautiful. Look at that. All you sloppy bastards in the chat that need to get fit. There's no excuse. First month is on the house.

[Anthony]

Or if you're not sloppy and usually.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you want to be jacked with two fake hips and you want to do CrossFit. If you don't want to look like Tyler on Thursday nights, join this app.

[Mike]

Can we talk about that? What? First off, APP. Heroic Industries AQ.com does not work, apparently. APP Heroic Industries HQ.com.

[Tyler]

hold on. He's gonna find it for us and send it to you.

[Mike]

You look it up.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I'm not trying to spell that. That's way too much work. Just text it to me and I can put it in. I can put. I can bring it up.

[Mike]

But yeah. So we talked about that video already.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay.

[Mike]

It was. I've tell you what it was.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're lactose intolerant.

[Lewis]

Yes.

[Tyler]

For me, I guess. Text it to copvil.ogmail.com.

[Mike]

dude, now you got to remember that

[Tyler]

the name of my site that everybody knows. Cobbillogmail.com. it'll come right to my laptop here.

[Mike]

Hey, look what Lewis did to you. Mike.

[Tyler]

He did what?

[Mike]

Lewis put the camera back at Mike before that. What? He's got that light switch in there.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

Now you're off to the right.

[Tyler]

Oh, Lewis.

[Mike]

I gotta take the heat off me. Lewis.

[Tyler]

Sorry. It's all right.

[Mike]

I'm all zoomed in. Perfect. Right in the middle.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you got thousand $2000 camera too. I'm over here on a Polaroid. Somebody can send it to me.

[Mike]

I can't find it.

[Tyler]

I just text it to Copville. OGDell.com. it'll come on my laptop. Then I can bring it up. There you go. Beautiful. Maybe still not here. You texted it?

[Anthony]

I emailed it.

[Tyler]

Oh, text it. It'll come right here. I got it. I got a Mac.

[Mike]

Not so easy as a guy.

[Tyler]

If everybody followed by its talk to Tyler, we would be there.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Dad, I'm hungry. Scent beer comes. Let's go.

[Mike]

Maybe.

[Tyler]

There it is. Got it. Okay. I'll bring up on the screen Louis, you relax. Copy paste. Boom.

[Mike]

And you just dropped a new podcast. A new episode, right?

[Anthony]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So finally, YouTube. How do. What do you search at YouTube? You search heroic.

[Anthony]

Heroic Industries.

[Mike]

Industries. Okay. And you're. You're. You're a big contributor. We got to get back into getting you on counterculture shows. You're way up in, you know, Idaho or where the hell you're from.

[Tyler]

There's a website. All you guys. Jack with no shirt.

[Mike]

Same thing.

[Anthony]

Whatever.

[Mike]

Iowa, Idaho, north Idaho.

[Anthony]

They're all the same.

[Tyler]

Stay ready. Stay dangerous. Here's a picture of the app. Make sure you guys go check it out for free.

[Mike]

I guarantee you no one's gonna care. No one will know if you sign up for that first month and then you just Remember to cancel 30 days out. Nobody remembers.

[Tyler]

Go check them out. Get in shape, be fit. So you can protect yourself from big guys on night shift. Yes, you don't be on Cobville in a viral video, so.

[Mike]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

I saw that. Lewis thinks it's funny. You take it down, Louis. Good job.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

Patreon. Lewis, we have an announcement we're going to make in Patreon after this show.

[Mike]

Are we doing it?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I'm doing it for the. If you're in Patreon, we'll have a little.

[Mike]

They deserve it.

[Tyler]

They deserve it. So make sure you check out our Patreon OG Council only is going to get a special update of some wild stuff that just happened this morning before the show. But everybody, we welcome you all to join our Patreon. We appreciate. We interact. I stay up late sending cool pictures and videos of my old cop days and Tyler doesn't do much other than rely on me. But check out our Patreon. Let's bring in the man Dominic Izzo without the Patreon logo. Lewis. Hey man. And the right camera angle. Lewis. I got it. You. You take a break.

[Lewis]

I'm trying to fix it for you.

[Tyler]

Go ahead, Dominic. Welcome. Welcome to our well oiled machine.

[Dominic]

Yeah, well oiled. It's almost like those Roman gladiator films I'm watching you guys fanboy the out of Anthony over in the studio. I think you guys got a. A crush on him. You ever see that Looks maxing you.

[Tyler]

You would get the same treatment. I've known him because I've known him, interacted with him, had him on a podcast. He's part of our network and I've never met him. And the amazing business partner, co co host of the show didn't tell me he was coming today. So I was.

[Mike]

I forgot.

[Tyler]

I was super extra surprised to see him.

[Dominic]

I'm just talking about the fact that he's a Roman Greek God. Chisel.

[Tyler]

I am excited that I'm taller than him though. I'm excited that I'm taller than him.

[Dominic]

I hate, I hate how in shape he is.

[Tyler]

It's disgusting. Tell us. We ended last night and I know you reached out to Sal. Can you tell me what you're doing with that whole program?

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

What your new venture is? Please.

[Dominic]

It's putting the money where our mouth is and putting an action behind our. And I got tired of the comment section so last night I wanted to see what. What kind of weight can can we as people mouths on the Internet do. So I, I put together a panel to see who would be interested in not only reviewing a case. We're looking at the Joseph Magnano case out of Hartford, Connecticut where it was a lawful shooting but political pressure got him fired. He was an at will Employee who was like a day passes probation but then again 2. He was 18 months versus 12. I don't know legality of that but that was the point since we don't know what we can do. And I like what his union is doing but at the same time I don't have faith in unions. I think unions do a lot of show. They take dues and that's it. And they, they hit a wall. Well, I wondered what we could do. So we had about 95, 96 guys who replied and 30 show up last night which I was surprised as with. And it, it turned from a non stop review because you know how as cops we all want to go. Well I would have done this one, this we actually got on track and it's okay. We need to find the Republican candidate who's running against this mayor. We need to find the current Republican representative in this town. We need to find out what the policies were. We need to contact if it was Taser International and get a, get a statement from them. We actually formed a. The first steps of a plan of action to taking a national position of putting pressure where it's due. Almost akin to what the, the social activists like an Al Sharpton do so but the opposite, the opposite and to be honest a lot more formatted because right now what do we have, we have social justice and they, they, I, they, they go with the identity right? Gay, black female, whatever. That's great. We're going for policy law, you know and we know it's an uphill battle but that's the whole point is what can we do collectively to come together and say all right, you're good at this, you're good at this, you're good at this. Well instead of just going the comment section going yeah, that was a lawful shoot that guy. Now what are we going to do about it? So last time you have that.

[Tyler]

Is that video on your page, Dominic?

[Dominic]

Oh, that was a private zoom last

[Tyler]

night on the video of the shooting. Do you know?

[Dominic]

Yeah, that's on YouTube. The short is on my Instagram from Toronto.

[Mike]

I'm looking for it.

[Tyler]

Hold on. There's so many pictures of females that are 411. I'm gonna have to weed through them.

[Dominic]

How's Anthony? Are you.

[Mike]

He, he took off. He had to leave. That son of a. I think he's about 510 probably.

[Tyler]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Dominic]

Dude, you tell me that he isn't like the ex. If that showed up on, on a call you would have been like oh, I'm Awesome. Great.

[Mike]

If it was short sleep, no problems here.

[Dominic]

I'm like. I'm like gay boy. And out. That guy's a handsome man.

[Tyler]

It's disgusting.

[Mike]

Yeah. And the crazy is the age.

[Dominic]

One more time.

[Tyler]

What's. What's his name again? The cop?

[Dominic]

Anthony.

[Tyler]

Oh, no.

[Dominic]

Joseph Magnano. Do you want me to send me to the.

[Tyler]

The link. Yeah, I got it. I have in a second.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Joseph Malado.

[Mike]

But yeah, Anthony. Well, Tiger King's real name is Joe.

[Dominic]

Joe. Exotic.

[Mike]

No, Malindano.

[Tyler]

Joe Maldonado.

[Mike]

Joe Maldonado. And this guy's name is what?

[Dominic]

Joe. Joe Magdano.

[Tyler]

Okay, here we go.

[Mike]

I got it.

[Tyler]

So for those wondering. Hold on.

[Mike]

Share screen.

[Tyler]

Oh, I gotta stop sharing the other one I'm having to produce.

[Dominic]

You're right to watch Antihero broadcast live.

[Mike]

Thanks.

[Tyler]

That's what Lewis needs to start doing.

[Mike]

Hey, watch. I just got a picture of Lewis on his phone.

[Tyler]

I saw you taking it.

[Mike]

Lewis got caught.

[Tyler]

He was like, all right, here is the video I'm talking about right here.

[Dominic]

I actually fault these three officers for not containing this better. Yeah, I fault these three officers for not covering him better. I fault three officers. This one, the middle holstered his firearm, which put himself in danger. And then these other officers would have to engage this officer from the beginning all the way at the. The furthest from the screen. He showed his lack of.

[Mike]

What happened.

[Tyler]

I stopped it. That wasn't him really talking.

[Mike]

No, I know.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

What's the issue with that shoot?

[Tyler]

Political.

[Dominic]

It was political. Is Al Sharpton went to the department the day. But like the day of. And they terminated of it. So it was a mental health.

[Tyler]

If you watch do nothing stand there. One had a ponytail. I noticed do nothing. This guy shows up and he's like, we're not. What are we gonna stand here all day with a guy with a machete? Like, dude, you got to drop it. And then he starts advancing on him and he does what he should have done, which is shooting.

[Mike]

Holy cow.

[Dominic]

Well, then we had a lot of issues with it. If you watch the video it made and the full police body camera is available on police1.com and I actually did breakdown cop talk live, but the officers from the beginning demonstrated poor training. And so what we talked about last night is when we have evidence like this. All right, what do we do? Aside from just breaking it down? Well, now I need the names of all three officers who were. Who were on scene. I need all of their training records. I need to find out if officer A showed up on scene. And you can look, literally watch him fumble. He's got two weapons in each hand, one weapon in each hand. And he's got. He goes from right hand to pistol, puts his pistol in his left hand and then goes to Taser and then switches him up. Now, I want his training records. Who signed off on him. And then the other one who showed up on scene completely gets out of the car. You know, the suspect advances towards him. There's no pistol drawing. At one point, he puts a pistol back in his holster. Who signed off in his training. So. And then again, the mayor claims he has no faith in Magnano to do the job. And now my department was. Remember, I come from a small agency. We all had Tasers. You watch on scene. The Taser was deployed three times. Ineffective. The cop even goes, doesn't. It's in a. Ineffective. And every other cop on the scene goes, who's got. You got a Taser?

[Tyler]

You got a Taser?

[Dominic]

If that's.

[Mike]

Yeah, they're all trying to get Tasers.

[Tyler]

Well, that's the, the problem again, let's try. Let's try to. The fifth or sixth time is probably going to work, right?

[Mike]

Who.

[Dominic]

What's the policy? Who set this man up for failure? And if the, if this is my view is if one officer is going to be fired, I got, I got two different routes I want to take on this. I want to make such a noise that people like Grady Judd, who I can't stand, he should be speaking up. Why is he not using the weight of his word to advocate for this? Because this is going to be one of, I don't know how many cops across the nation are going to face this. Number two, maybe we need an audit. We now need an audit into Hartford, Connecticut police. If the mayor says one cop did not do the job that he believes he can do and the others are blatantly acting an error on duty, then the entire department needs to be maybe shut down and have our leaders, our

[Mike]

police leaders there that. Remember when George Floyd happened and every single police leader across the nation went and gave their opinion how awful it was. What about giving your opinion on when a cop is fried even in another state and saying, this is wrong and we would never do this.

[Tyler]

Exactly. The point I made last night was that it shouldn't matter what state you're standing in when it's this obvious because we have the Miami female shoots a guy in the back. Nothing. Right here it is on video standing in another area where it's more left Climate. The person's got a goddamn machete, you cat. There's no, there's not even a question of what should happen, but one gets fired and then another one. The rest affidavit is written to cook up the whole incident and the news covers it in the wrong way to make it sound better and everything's going to end up being fine. And here's a guy who does exactly what he was supposed to and he gets fired. And you're right, all the police, all these, Grady Judge, shoot him graveyard dead. Shoot him a billion times. He should get involved. He has enough power and enough influence that he should use it for something positive than corny bobblehead commercials at his desk in the morning and coffee with Grady. Get involved. Get on Fox News. He's been there before. He should get on Fox News and be going crazy about this.

[Dominic]

Well, if he's not, we will. That's the point. So last time I agree with you was quite. There's, there's five now, five cases that I actually believe in that I want to do something over. And it's not just defending cops. Like, a lot of people are going to have a problem with this. And I told you on your show yesterday, you know, I will go to bat for this cop and I will, I will put every weight of the word, every, all my weight behind my words. But it's also getting rid of the ones that shouldn't be on. Like, yeah, I worked with Ben Crump's office to get him to represent the family of the Harris county deputy who was charged in the shooting and killing of Lavender Swanson. So it's about getting rid of the bad cops. So when it comes down to having someone like Magnano, who not one cop in America should disagree with what he did, then we can defend him a hundred times easier.

[Tyler]

It's just weeding out credibility thing. You can't say, get them done, shoot them all and then have this guy. You have to be able to go, well, that cop definitely did that wrong. We should, that guy should be in trouble or he should be paid the consequences for a horrible shooting. Or the female you're talking about in Houston. But you're right. You can't just pick and choose. You have to be across the board. And by you doing what you're doing, I, that's where I, I, you know, I know the intentions are good because everybody calls you a cop hater. You hate cops. But here you are forming a committee to help cops unjustly fired or charged. But it, what that Comes with is you also being just as vigilant against cops who make horrible mistakes or do something malicious, that they should also be charged and that. That's the real way to be is not just turn a blind eye to one or the other, but say, hey, I, I sorry, I. I'm pro cop, but this one is terrible. But this one is horrible for the cops. So I'm gonna form a committee. That's what you don't get credit for.

[Dominic]

I appreciate that's. That's the point of the Constitution. Supporting that and supporting the profession.

[Mike]

And anybody that doesn't support the cops are geeks.

[Tyler]

Oh, God.

[Dominic]

Ah, don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. One geek.

[Ryan]

Jesus.

[Mike]

Triggering.

[Tyler]

Yes. What do you mean, geek?

[Dominic]

I challenge you to a fight. Tyler, let me give you props for a second. Funny. Your audience, we talk a lot about loyalty.

[Tyler]

Huge.

[Dominic]

And Mike's always blowing me, which is great. I don't give enough credit as it will either. My ego took over over the weekend and got me in some. And Tyler, without skipping a beat, you know, I to him about something in private and without skipping a beat, Tyler says, what do you need? And I was like, mother damn. So, man, thank you for that. That's. That's loyalty. I appreciate that.

[Mike]

Yeah, man, I like, I. I'd rather go down in the trenches with people I trust and love than, you know, stand over.

[Tyler]

Yeah, big dog.

[Mike]

Stand over on the side and just watch things happen. Like, yeah, it's not set up for anything. Like.

[Tyler]

And I was talking to Dominic last night about. It was when all that unfolded over the weekend. I'm on a cruise and I wasn't excited. I know both people involved, and I'm like, oh, oh, this isn't. This isn't going well just for me in general. But I got people calling the message to me saying, I need to. I need to turn on Dominic. You need to hold it. And I'm like, oh, God, you guys lost your mind? Like, this dude has been in the trenches with me. This is a loyal dude. I may not agree with everything he says and does, but I don't question whether some. I have to worry about Domino. Yeah. What I need to do. I got tagged and all this stuff, and I'm like, know what I'm getting? I got nasty with a couple people, and it got ugly in the dms. But it's like, nope. Like, he. If I think he's wrong, he's wrong. He thinks I'm wrong, I'm wrong. That. That's that's besides the point of loyalty. There's no, there's no road outside the loyalty. I don't.

[Dominic]

People love. They just love to see the, the online. So people are looking inside division so

[Tyler]

that all of a sudden I'm, I

[Dominic]

am, I am smart enough now to know and it's taken a long time time to where you have. You have a loyal friend and somebody says something. I'm smart enough not to knee jerk reaction where like somebody sent me like the other day when you, when you put up the thing about the disagreement with the, the, the power lifter.

[Tyler]

Some.

[Dominic]

I had a couple dukes is disagreeing with you. And I went, awesome.

[Mike]

I.

[Dominic]

And I, I think I shared it, right? I. I replied to one of them. I go, I go, that's odd because I agree with them and it's.

[Mike]

What. What the what what?

[Dominic]

So it's like, I know now that the, you know, like years ago I would have been this. Because that's what everybody wants. So.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Well. And the part you can tell everybody. I. I don't want to say everybody. I know you've been doing broadcasting for quite a while, but I'm pretty new to it. Mike's new to it. A lot of people are. And then people that aren't in the entertainment sphere aren't really don't even. Aren't even privy to this. But the, the amount of good that could be done for awareness or let's just say I have an issue with Mike. I've never met Mike a day in my life. Michael's halfway around the country and man, at first we're really talking this dude, I heard he did this. I already did this. And then I reach out to Mike and go, hey, I got an idea. Let's raise an awareness for a thing and let's full on go do this huge thing, this huge event or this online thing where everybody wins. The problem is a lot of people can't put their pride aside and go, yeah, that's actually really smart.

[Lewis]

Nope.

[Mike]

Like, so.

[Tyler]

No, yeah, I mean, like I said. And, and it just. I'm not gonna. It would take away from our mission to agree or to not talk about our disagreements. It would make no sense for the point of what we're trying to do, which is generate conversation, have multiple views and get people from. All the people think, yep, Mike's right. All the people think, nope. Dominic's right. Well, let's. If we get together and talk about it, all those people are coming into the conversation and that gives us an opportunity.

[Dominic]

I Think it actually holds on a higher position. You get to double down on it. Because I. This is sounds. This sounds. I don't know if this makes sense because I know I'm in a safe space to hardcore go at it and disagree. I don't ever have to waver on my opinion and then not stand by what I believe in so I can come in and go, no, I disagree with this. Disagree with this. And the, the way I say something in this group will not diminish what I'm saying. Therefore. So if I trip on it, put a little sensationalist spin on it, you know, all that. It doesn't take away from what I'm trying to say. Therefore I don't go. Mike comes up and goes, you know, I disagree with you about that. I go, yeah, well, you know what?

[Tyler]

You're right.

[Dominic]

And all of a sudden it's like, oh, you don't believe in your convictions. So I think when you have a group like this, it actually affords you a chance to double and down in your. In your convictions and test them whether or not you believe in them.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's true.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

What do they stand on it?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Stand on 10 toes, stand on business. So, yeah, you have to. And that's what. And that was one of the things I said was to the people that were coming at me, I'm like, do you not realize that like, Dominic and I completely disagree on a lot of things? Like the traffic ticket ripping the lady out of the car. Like, we disagree on the. That application. The goon life versus the spit shine boots. Like, like we disagree on all that, but we don't. Doesn't cause us to be enemies. It causes us to generate conversation about each other's side and lets both of those sides hear. Well, that's what Dominic thinks. That's what Mike thinks.

[Mike]

Well, okay, maybe I think something.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, like maybe I should think something about it. And that's the other argument we're talking about is getting these people to stop DMing us and getting involved in their own convictions to get them to get their own opinion out. But instead of hiding behind us, get out and talk about it.

[Dominic]

That's the easiest way to shut me up. People have not figured that out for every hater. I have, and I have a ton out there publicly. I would have no power whatsoever if you guys just stepped up and said your own. Yeah, you guys are making me more and more loud because you refuse to say, simple as that.

[Tyler]

And that's, that's a, that's a Character thing. A lot of people are. They want to have an opinion in silence and not get out and say it.

[Mike]

And I, I never that I really underestimate that. The fact that a lot of people do, do not want to call in or be on a video or be on, or talk on Instagram for whether it be professional reasons or to be honest with you, I think a lot of people are scared of it. Like, I'm gonna go on there, I'm gonna give my opinion on Instagram. I'm gonna get attacked from every angle known. Like everything. Your family fat. You're stupid, you're dumb, you're a wash up, you're. You're a quitter. Like all this.

[Tyler]

I equate it to criminals. When you start to bury somebody in an interview, they're like, that's it, I'm done. Like, I can't, I can't keep up with this anymore. I've, I've lied too many times. If you get somebody who's not confident in their, in their mission or they're not confident in what they're trying to say, they just want to say it because it sounds cool. And you start to have a real debate with them, they're only going to be able to stick to it so long before they, they fold. And a lot of people know they will fold because they just want to be heard. They don't really want to say anything. They just want to kind of go with the float. Like the class, you know, if the class clown says something jumps in.

[Dominic]

But stupid.

[Tyler]

Nobody wants to stand on that little island by themselves and say, I don't care what everybody says. This is my, this is what I'm saying. And I will stand here and debate it with you. That's what we don't have.

[Mike]

I think Instagram should have a feature where if you go to respond to anything that's less than three seconds sentences, it just auto populates to. I'm a. If you don't type three sentences worth like the amount of characters. Because I'm sick of them. Sick of. This is a dumbass take.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Mike]

You have this guy back on like all of our guests. Like you can't give anything of merit. No argument. No. Or just look at it and go, I disagree. And go about your life.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

I can get behind that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Do you ever see her responses?

[Mike]

No.

[Dominic]

She always off camera.

[Tyler]

What the hell? Lewis is not doing his job. What was that?

[Mike]

What was that?

[Tyler]

Oh, oh, I was white.

[Dominic]

Oh, right.

[Tyler]

Yeah, she's here.

[Mike]

What the blocking Mike's camera.

[Dominic]

They only had her for half a second.

[Tyler]

Okay, now you can talk. Go ahead, tell them about your responses.

[Mike]

I already did.

[Dominic]

Yeah, she's the worst. No, I'm not gonna let her talk. She's the worst. You ever sit there and want to see the angriest who comes at you with facts. And in a comment section, it's like, I had. Didn't I just DM you a couple days ago going, just like you were gonna kill yourself in the comment section. She is meant to 10 years ago. And I'm like, loving every second.

[Tyler]

Well, it doesn't help that I'm out of work and I have nothing else to do because I'm on a similar. Let me tell you how I know. I made a slick comment years before we were together on Instagram, basically talking about her. But I did it in a. In a coded way. And I remember. I'll never forget it. I was watching the football game and I got a response. It said, who. Who's the person you're talking about? It was from her. And I was like, just, you know, people. And she's like, no, but who specifically are you talking about? And I'm like, people. And I'm like, I'm trying to watch a football game. Like, I knew that she knew that I knew. And I was like, she was not going to have a seven. Yeah, we were gonna have a whole. Yes. And I. I dodged it enough times that she finally gave up because I was. I did not want to have the conversation, and I wanted to take a shot of her without being called out about it. So it was. I laugh about it.

[Mike]

What's really good is people will accuse me of being, like, emotional or worked up. And what they don't understand is the endorphin release that I get from doing that. So it's a feel good. It's actually warm and fuzzy feeling.

[Dominic]

I get it, like, raised up, reading your comments. I feel my raised in my chest and I get my blood pressure up because it's like I'm living vicariously through your posting.

[Tyler]

Yeah. They'll say, she's like. She'll show me. She's like, look at this guy. He says, I'm triggered. And then she'll be sitting on the couch, relaxed, with the dogs around, just going, watch this response. It's very calm, very calculated, very factual. But it's not. She's not never, ever once been like, this guy's got me rattled.

[Mike]

Watch this.

[Tyler]

Moab. Yeah, it'll be. Always be. And, like, they'll Dodge it. And she'll go right back. You just dodge everything I said. Let me repeat it again and get it.

[Mike]

My favorite is when you call out men simping for other men. That is my. My absolute favorite. Because when I say it or Mike said that, it's an insult. Like, oh, you just sim. That's what somebody would say. Like, if I'm backing up my boy, are you simping for him? But when a female goes, listen, dude, just FYI, you are simping for other men. Like, right. It's like you got a little something. It hurts a little more. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, the problem is too, is it the persistence of not allowing the. The joke or the weasel out. You're not getting it from her. You are going to. If you said something, you are going to explain it or you're going to discuss it. And then everybody does what I did, which is like, oh, I'm trying to watch football. She's like, nah, dog, we're get to this.

[Mike]

In the emotional thing, they always go back to, you're being emotional, you're being this and you're being that, which always happens at work. Also, if I'm backing someone into a corner with logic, then they start to deflect on, well, what I'm. Let me attack something about her demeanor or the way she's talking. You're mean. What the does that have to do with what we're talking about?

[Tyler]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Mike]

So I make people stand. Like you're talking about standing behind what you say. If you're going to say it, you're going to stand behind it or you're going to concede that you were wrong. One or the other is going to happen. Or you just disappear like a. I wish you.

[Dominic]

I wish you would do more content vocal.

[Tyler]

We're working on it.

[Dominic]

That needs to happen.

[Tyler]

Because I'm not a studio in my house. If you guys didn't know that your

[Dominic]

is lost in the comment section. It's like, I read the comment section and I. I like, okay. They make me feel angry. I like the comments. It always translates into, this is controversy.

[Tyler]

This needs to be content.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And it's important. I think it's important. That's why I always say it's me

[Mike]

and Dom think alike.

[Tyler]

The conversation is everything.

[Mike]

Everything's good. I would. I look at people talking. I'm like, that's good content right there. Like, also, you're a human being. Hi, by the way, my name's Tyler.

[Tyler]

Can I take your troubles and make it into content? I told her. She talks about. I'm like, if you would just start a show. I'm like, we could. I could retire again. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't even have to do anything anymore. Like, it. It would be gold. But it's an honest take, though. And it's. It's, you know, for. You know, for a female in that. In that field, it. I've always got to see, like, the example of, like, what it should look like. So when these girls are like, I'm sufficient. I'm 4, 11, and I do nothing. And I've no. I'm like, bro, you guys are nuts. Like, I see the sacrifice and the hard work, and I go, you guys aren't even. Most men aren't touching their level of sacrifice and hard work, let alone female. So it's a. It's a fun ride.

[Mike]

They're all putting pineapples in the car.

[Tyler]

I don't know why. I don't know why. If you do, my guys are cruise

[Mike]

people to your pineapple.

[Tyler]

Because if you knew my wife, you would understand that a woman. A radar goes off. If a woman gets within 100 yards of me. There's zero percent. I mean, it's a cool joke, but I will assure you, I'm one of

[Mike]

the most territorial people on the planet. Yeah. Freeze frame. Who's that? Yeah, I was on a train. That's somebody 100 yards behind me.

[Tyler]

I was in deep with the Patreon the other night. Like, 11:30 at night. Rare on my phone. Who's so important over there? I'm like, your happiness is over here on your phone over there. I'm like, I'm engaged with Patreon. Huh?

[Mike]

Engaged with Patreon. I'm with the 99% babe.

[Tyler]

99 cent. But no. No pineapples in my life.

[Mike]

Did you at least get the 99 cent menu last night?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I put it higher than that. I'd put it higher than that.

[Mike]

A dollar.

[Tyler]

N. Yeah, we were at.

[Mike]

You, like the dollar tree, but nothing's ever a dollar anymore.

[Tyler]

It was like. What was that other place? Five below? It was like a five below.

[Mike]

All right, we gotta bring G money on. Dom. Thanks so much for coming on, as always.

[Dominic]

Money. I was a movie star before. He was. I was in Divergent.

[Mike]

You were in Divergent?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

What's Divergent?

[Tyler]

I have no idea.

[Mike]

The movie.

[Lewis]

It's a porno.

[Tyler]

It's a Bordeaux.

[Dominic]

I was in Boss with Kelsey Grammer. I played a cop, and then I was in a Divergent. Those are my two credits. But I was.

[Tyler]

That comes with working those small town agencies out there. Agency. Right.

[Dominic]

It was a friend who was done on movie set designs. I can get you in as an extra. You work 23 hours in a day sitting around for 22 hours of them and it's freezing. You're in a non OSHA approved abandoned Chicago building where you're standing on the second story and the railing gives four feet of give in it all to go cut and you get 175 for that day.

[Tyler]

Sounds fun.

[Lewis]

Were you on Frasier?

[Dominic]

No, I was at a boss with Kelsey Grammer.

[Lewis]

Okay, that's it.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Dominic, we appreciate it, man. Thank you.

[Mike]

So much better, bud.

[Tyler]

Who's producing?

[Mike]

I didn't touch it. I. I was doing it earlier. Lewis was like, what do you.

[Tyler]

I got to the point where he got on his phone. He was.

[Mike]

So Tuesdays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Friday, Fridays, I produce and Mike produces. Like we self produce in. In studio days is when we need. We need Lewis bad. But sometimes I'm so used to producing those days that I start clicking things and Lewis is like, what? And then Lewis will click it.

[Tyler]

But I'm like, you want to do it or do I do. I know I see him. I'm going to make an air assault shirt. I'm putting it down right now.

[Mike]

An air assault.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah. And Ja, if you don't buy one, it's gonna be cool.

[Mike]

Dude, he's cheating. Buy one. You better buy one.

[Lewis]

You need a tier three shirt too.

[Mike]

Yeah, tier three.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

John's gonna ask you to send him a shirt for his birthday. It was my birthday.

[Tyler]

He's used up all his money on his thumbs in the chats every day. I'm making an aerosol shirt. Custom Cotville aerosol shirt. You better be buying it.

[Mike]

Yeah. So we got to talk about this.

[Tyler]

Oh, our big trick. Back to the moon.

[Mike]

First off, let's talk about it. Who knows most about this? There's literally like birds chirping.

[Tyler]

What. What we're doing.

[Mike]

Who knows the second most about the.

[Tyler]

What we're doing? We launched. We're going to orbit. Artemis 2 launched with a couple people on board. They're going to use gravity and. And slingshot.

[Mike]

Do you believe they really launched?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

Okay, so there's no questioning that that might be.

[Tyler]

Well, a. A rocket launched with you because the

[Mike]

Challenger did the same thing.

[Tyler]

They said the people got out.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And that all those people are still alive.

[Mike]

Yeah. And they had to give them new aliases.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And they look exactly the same.

[Lewis]

They didn't even give them new aliases. They kept the same name online.

[Tyler]

Dude that went around asking people.

[Mike]

No, but who brought it up in ours? Was it Nick?

[Lewis]

I did. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dominic]

And then we found the videos where

[Tyler]

they go up to professors. They got the same name and everything, dude.

[Lewis]

So they look the one guy had a sleepy eye and the, you know, the guy that's not him had a sleepy eye like dude. It's just, it's crazy dude. Same name

[Tyler]

today. Today. But yeah. So we were slingshotting out of Earth. Aren't we going. I think they went around the earth once too to get.

[Lewis]

Yeah, no. So days one and two were orbiting Earth doing all their checks to make sure that the ship was shipworthy, I guess you could say. And then days 3, 4 and 5 will be in the, the darkness of space traveling to the moon using minimal after thrusters to keep them on course with the correct trajectory so they don't waste fuel. And then days five and six they'll be orbiting the moon going around about 6,000 miles away from the surface and then using the, the slingshot effect of the moon and propelling back towards Earth again using minimal fuel, which is what they're saying. And then they'll, they'll do maybe I think one earth rotation where. One earth orbit and splash down, you know where they want to. Which whatever. Dude, it's.

[Tyler]

I love how the news keeps saying we're, it's history. We're going yes, yes, weird words.

[Lewis]

The first time ever we're making history. Trump said it too.

[Tyler]

Yeah. What does he talk about? I thought we landed on the thing a couple times.

[Lewis]

Yeah. And we're. It's going to be 6000 miles away from the Earth, from the surface of the moon.

[Mike]

That's insanity. Me first off, the argument that we got rid of the technology to do. We were on who we were on a show. I forget we do so many broadcasts now. We already talked about.

[Lewis]

We didn't get rid of it, we lost it.

[Mike]

Well it's like saying like oh, I trashed my whole phone because I don't want to go through it. Like I just like yeah, like you're lying. We threw away all the equipment so you couldn't question this.

[Tyler]

Like some, some of the things that really get me are like the batteries, like battery life back then was non existent. And they're, they're saying they had battery power in that brazen heat and environment up there that were able to withstand all that and drove dune buggies around for days at a Time.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

Like they put that dune buggy at.

[Tyler]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mike]

Because they're saying the capsule was like

[Tyler]

the size of this little thing landed on the. You know.

[Mike]

Yeah, that is true. Where did they get the dune buggy?

[Lewis]

They said it fit in the. In the. In the capsule, which is because it was pretty damn big.

[Mike]

Are they trying to say that they landed on the mood and like tailgated for a while, like slept?

[Tyler]

Pretty much. They were there like three or four days.

[Lewis]

Yeah. If you look at the dune buggy. Yeah. You remember the old like 80s, the 60s beach chairs that had like that synthetic cloth that was crisscross and you sat like.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dominic]

Burn the.

[Tyler]

Out of you when you sat back down.

[Lewis]

Yeah. That's what the chair is, dude. On the. On the rover. It's a beach chair.

[Tyler]

It is.

[Mike]

Look at it.

[Tyler]

It wouldn't melt, right?

[Lewis]

Nope, nope. And then you got tinfoil loosely wrapped around the. Around the module that landed on the moon. Dude, you need to play the. I'm looking it up. You need to play them leaving the moon.

[Mike]

Oh, we play that all the time. That's our favorite video.

[Tyler]

On the moon, on the surface. And a plastic beach chairs up there. A dune buggy chair.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Batteries didn't malfunction. None of the coding on wire like all that stuff was.

[Mike]

And you're doing all of this new technology, new advancements, unseen everything, and you're doing it without flaw on 250 degree surface.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Without ever being there.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. Even if they were there.

[Tyler]

Yeah. But I'm saying, I'm saying, did they go in the 250 degree chamber and test it all?

[Mike]

Here's the thing. We go to the moon, right. We take that very seriously. Everything's mathematic. Everything went according to plan. We go and we take 25 Navy Seals to kill Osam Bin Laden. The biggest military operation probably that we know of. And immediately one of the helicopters crashes, fails. Like there's. And that's when perfect weather. There's no way that we're going to the moon in 1960, whatever. And have. And not having one failure of any

[Lewis]

technology in this iPhone than there was going to the moon.

[Tyler]

Or technology in your Nintendo than there was going to the moon.

[Lewis]

And we lost. We lost the knowledge and the, you know, the institutional know how. How to get back to the moon. And we can't do it again. It'd be too expensive to replicate it the out of here. It's the greatest. The greatest accomplishment man has ever done. And we're Just gonna lose the information to it, Accidentally delete it.

[Mike]

What is their argument? Why did they. Why did they say too expensive?

[Lewis]

Too expensive. The Cold war started raging and. And they. They started putting resources into the Cold war, and. And, you know, the moon exploration wasn't as important anymore is one of their explanations. And the videos that we watch aren't the actual videos. It's. It's like it's supposed to be recordings of recordings of a recording. So they lost all the initial footage and tapes and everything. So what we're watching is just recordings of recordings.

[Mike]

No way.

[Lewis]

Yep. We're not even watching. Yeah, look it up. They were not even watching the original. It's such a farce. And then you ever look at the. That they try to put out on TV of his. Of the first spacewalk, and I think they walked it back because it's so ridiculous, dude. I mean, I could probably do a better setup in my living room and make it look more. More believable. Terrible.

[Mike]

What is it?

[Lewis]

They do like the first. First televised spacewalk. Let's see if I can pull it up. Dude, it's so me and Loose will

[Mike]

just chill while they all pull it up. I'll pull it up. No, I'll pull it.

[Tyler]

I don't know what he's gonna do with it.

[Mike]

What? You look. Oh, yeah, you can watch it. Are you on your phone, Nick, or a desktop or laptop?

[Lewis]

Both. I got my laptop. My phone's here.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're playing with your phones. They're definitely not on your phone. I don't know if maybe you had two phones.

[Lewis]

Ah, I found it. I'll send it to you.

[Tyler]

I got it. The islands off the coast of California.

[Mike]

Well, we're watching a recording of a recording when we do that.

[Lewis]

Yeah, exactly. Right.

[Tyler]

Is he holding it up? Oh, my God. Yeah, the lights all reflect.

[Ryan]

You can't see anything.

[Tyler]

Mike's gonna pull it up.

[Lewis]

It's. It's. Dude, it's comical, man. And people bought that back then. Like, you gotta remember.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

You ever hear the Wells?

[Mike]

Yeah. That's what we were talking about now. Because we don't believe anything that the government tells us anymore because of the culture back then. If it came on the 7 o' clock news. It was scripture. It happened.

[Lewis]

Yep.

[Mike]

And that went on the 70s, 80s, and 90s. And now we have this boom of information.

[Lewis]

That's not it.

[Tyler]

This is the first moon. I believe this. Look at this. This is pretty good stuff. Neil and Buzz, the President of the United States is in his office now. And would like to say a few words to you over. Good call up on the moon. That would be an honor, President. This is Houston out. Hello, Neil and Buzz. I'm talking to you by telephone from the Global Watch

[Lewis]

Instant.

[Tyler]

I can't watch.

[Mike]

I am talking to you using a telephone.

[Tyler]

FYI.

[Mike]

Was wondering. I was using a telephone.

[Tyler]

I can't watch stuff.

[Lewis]

Dude, play the clip I sent you. Tyler.

[Mike]

10 seconds. Dude, you said it to my phone. You instead of emailing it to me, text it to me. So you added a couple steps.

[Tyler]

If you text it to me, I would be able to put it right up.

[Lewis]

Just so you know, I did text it to you.

[Tyler]

Mike Copville, OG at Gill.

[Mike]

Og that's what.

[Tyler]

He comes right to my laptop, do what I say and everything will go smoothly. He gave up. He just wait for you.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

That's just me on a telephone.

[Mike]

We are on a telephone. Just FYI.

[Tyler]

Call LA to New York. But we're gonna.

[Lewis]

I'm on the cell phone 200 and

[Tyler]

what, 80000 miles away.

[Dominic]

Stop it.

[Lewis]

Yep. Instant. And it's instant connection too.

[Mike]

Stop.

[Lewis]

Jesus Christ.

[Mike]

Dude.

[Lewis]

Not this one. The last text I sent. But this is the.

[Tyler]

This is it. This is it coming back.

[Lewis]

Tell me that ain't on a rope out of here.

[Tyler]

Look at that thing, man.

[Mike]

The camera.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Perfect timing. The delay from space to Earth. 30 seconds. And H dot looks good.

[Lewis]

Orbit. And I know the moons isn't. Isn't as. As tough as Earth, but come on, dude. A couple fireworks go off and that's fucking fireworks.

[Tyler]

Somebody threw Confetti Pro.

[Lewis]

Yeah, dude, it looks like it's a model string and someone's got a pull just lifting it up.

[Tyler]

Nah, dog. That thing's got enough fuel to get back to Earth. Yeah. 280000 miles. Dude, no.

[Mike]

What do you send it on a Google Drive? All right.

[Tyler]

Wait.

[Mike]

Why are we.

[Tyler]

What are we doing?

[Mike]

What's wrong?

[Tyler]

Julius is having a mouth.

[Mike]

You.

[Tyler]

You were sharing your Gmail.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know. I needed. I need it up there because he sent it in the G drive.

[Tyler]

That was a good catch, Lewis. In case there was something in there that nobody should see. Leak.

[Mike]

Yeah, you don't want to put us on the screen when we're talking.

[Tyler]

No, I mean like leaking your info. Yeah, yeah. So this is like a antivirus right now he doesn't want you. Lewis is a singer. I heard.

[Mike]

Hold on. Wait. Let's finish this.

[Tyler]

Lewis would have had it up there like 10 minutes ago.

[Lewis]

Yeah, Lewis just text Me your email so I can start sending you. There it is.

[Tyler]

I get doxed.

[Lewis]

That's the first televised spacewalk. Look at this nonsense.

[Tyler]

But that's a video recreation, I'm told.

[Lewis]

Well, yeah, that's what they told afterwards.

[Mike]

Because it looks so bad. They realized.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They put this out and then said. No, no, no, no. That was in the studio. Yeah, we showed you what it would look like.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh, we forgot to put the disclaimer recreation.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Look at that.

[Mike]

They're trying. So they tried selling this as somebody in space.

[Tyler]

And then when they got called out after, like, no, no, no. That was. That was what it would have looked like.

[Lewis]

Like a dem. Yep. A demonstration.

[Mike]

That's bad, dude.

[Tyler]

That's bad. Look at that. That looks like Epcot. And when you're a kid. Yeah, like, bad Epcot ride.

[Lewis]

That's a school project.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's bad. Real bad.

[Mike]

But I mean. Yeah, no, I don't know. Yeah. Did you clear it with Lewis? Maybe he doesn't want to market it.

[Tyler]

Oh, I'm sorry. I saw it posted. Yeah.

[Mike]

Lewis, do you have a song coming out?

[Lewis]

Come on, man.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, I'm still working on it. Okay.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

But you posted about it.

[Mike]

Yes. All right. Destiny, what kind of music is it?

[Tyler]

It's like a mix of pop and rock.

[Mike]

Are you singing or just doing music?

[Tyler]

Both.

[Mike]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Lewis]

You got a sample?

[Mike]

No, I'm not giving you guys a sample because no matter how good it is, these guys are gonna.

[Lewis]

I'm not gonna.

[Mike]

Lewis is such a nice, good person. And these savages are gonna.

[Tyler]

I'll get it for you.

[Mike]

Could make the best award winning song, Lewis. And all these people would on it as a joke because you have any other music?

[Tyler]

Totally aware of it. I don't think Lewis understands how mean people are.

[Mike]

I'm totally aware of it.

[Tyler]

Yes. He's talking to you, Lewis. Nick is. Wait, Nick asked you a question.

[Lewis]

Do you have any other songs out?

[Tyler]

Not, like, officially.

[Lewis]

Oh, where do you. What's it on YouTube or some. Or SoundCloud.

[Tyler]

They're on YouTube.

[Mike]

Dude. How crazy would it be if Lewis was a SoundCloud rapper?

[Tyler]

What if Lewis Sound Club, but then I deleted it. Did you have a mixtape you handed out to people?

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

You just made your music.

[Mike]

And what would Lewis's rap name be?

[Tyler]

It's something Spanish. Whatever interesting is in Spanish. Put an L in front of it.

[Mike]

Let's. What, Nick, what would you. What rap would you give? What rap name would you give Lewis?

[Lewis]

Dude, Fiesta siesta.

[Dominic]

Exclamation points.

[Mike]

Like this?

[Lewis]

Yeah. Yes.

[Mike]

Are they already roasting you?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

Yeah. See that? You didn't even. You didn't give them anything, and they're already roasting you. What's the name?

[Tyler]

Autismic. Oh, my God, dude. Interestante.

[Mike]

How do you say interesting in Spanish?

[Tyler]

He doesn't know. I have to look it up. He doesn't speak Spanish.

[Mike]

Oh, you're not Spanish. You're only Puerto Rican.

[Tyler]

Yeah, because he doesn't speak it.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's. That's. That's racist.

[Tyler]

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, though.

[Lewis]

Interestianto.

[Tyler]

Hold on. Wait. I'm playing it. Yeah.

[Lewis]

Really? Yeah, I got it. Right.

[Tyler]

Okay. No, you put a T in there. It's E I, N T E R E S A N T E. Interestante. Sounds like your shirt guy.

[Mike]

He's Indian, bro.

[Tyler]

That's what it is.

[Mike]

You really raised it.

[Tyler]

No, I'm not.

[Mike]

He got brown skin. He talked different than me.

[Tyler]

What accent is that?

[Mike]

White?

[Tyler]

No, that wasn't white. That was real dark. No, it was mlk. Dude, what are you talking about?

[Mike]

I really wanted to tell Waka Flocka that I sing all the words.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

What's the deal with that? With the Waka Flocka thing?

[Tyler]

Deleted it. He commented on our Chicago reel with all the military age males on the corner.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And then he said it was our people that oppressed them that caused that. And then when we clapped back and pinned it, he deleted it. Oh, dude.

[Mike]

I'm gonna take Jaws idea a little bit. We'll call it Rubik's, but with two X's.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah, dude, that's your name. Louis Rubik's, but with two X's.

[Tyler]

Are you. Yep.

[Mike]

How about three xx? By the way, this song.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You are a braver man than me.

[Tyler]

This song was inspired by the. There's a Netflix show called you.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Basically portrays a serial killer in a perspective way you guys keep around with.

[Lewis]

Dude, wow.

[Tyler]

I'm doxing every address of the. Your IP address and your address. I'm giving it to Louis. If you talk to.

[Lewis]

That's a great song, Louis. I love it.

[Tyler]

That.

[Mike]

That was. That's why I was surprised it was you. Can you play it again?

[Tyler]

Do you want it through the stream through Nick, or just bring it up here?

[Mike]

Bring it up here. Do we have the technology? We can go to the mood. Can we play your.

[Tyler]

It's on YouTube.

[Mike]

Oh, it's on YouTube?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Okay.

[Lewis]

All right.

[Mike]

Nick has it to his Ear.

[Tyler]

Typical old white man dude.

[Mike]

Oh, you bring it up. All right, you know what to search for. Well, have to show. This is positive note. Lewis never gets any public.

[Tyler]

Is he gonna copyright our show? Is he gonna fire?

[Mike]

I'm not.

[Tyler]

I'm not popular enough to be. You can file it, though, is what I'm saying. Do you want.

[Mike]

Do you want followers? Because you got an arubic cube channel, and then you got a music channel.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Whoa. Okay.

[Tyler]

And the gaming channel.

[Mike]

And a gaming channel.

[Tyler]

He's got 99 problems, bro.

[Mike]

Why don't you get with counterculture gaming, dude, they would.

[Lewis]

And dead hookers under the basement floor.

[Tyler]

Josh. Josh should not be allowed anywhere near.

[Mike]

I really like. It's about serial killers.

[Dominic]

It's.

[Tyler]

It's a story of where I killed two podcast hosts.

[Mike]

All right, let's go. All right, one sec.

[Lewis]

It's a good song, dude. Good job.

[Mike]

I'm gonna share this one.

[Tyler]

Whatever you want.

[Mike]

You share whatever one you want.

[Tyler]

It's your world.

[Lewis]

Yes. Share your ban.

[Tyler]

How am I stuck?

[Lewis]

Stuck on level one?

[Tyler]

I tried and tried again But I

[Lewis]

can't level up how do I learn?

[Tyler]

My mind just cannot get it But

[Lewis]

I need to know Watching people go fast bits of question how do they get so good? Oh, I need to know oh, my God,

[Tyler]

I love it, dude. It sound like the Filipino doing the cruise ship singing. This is great, dude. This is great. You should be on a cruise ship. Lois, I'm gonna take you with me.

[Lewis]

You'll get laid. Play these for the.

[Tyler]

Stop it.

[Mike]

Stop it.

[Lewis]

You'll get mad. In nine years, and I got so far.

[Tyler]

I can solve this Rubik's Cube in just five seconds, but the world record

[Mike]

is two seconds short.

[Tyler]

I think I reached my limit, my human limit. But no, there is always a way.

[Lewis]

I can find a way to get faster.

[Tyler]

There is always a way. One more song, Louis, before we go,

[Lewis]

I gotta. I got a song on Sounds.

[Mike]

Do you have any other songs on there?

[Tyler]

Yeah, look. One more. What's your next favorite? It was like, 20, 30 seconds of the next favorite.

[Lewis]

Dude, I got a song on SoundCloud.

[Tyler]

I'm addicted now.

[Mike]

Nick, you have a song?

[Lewis]

I do.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna make one. This is amazing.

[Lewis]

There's mine.

[Tyler]

That's not you.

[Anthony]

Let's.

[Tyler]

I produced it, okay?

[Mike]

I watched it.

[Tyler]

All right, one more. Come on. Don't think about it too much.

[Mike]

This is.

[Tyler]

You got. Sometimes you got to send that dm. Sometimes, Louis, you end up married to a beautiful woman. You just got to send it. Sometimes both end this is the old version of it. Two stick.

[Mike]

Aim high.

[Lewis]

No one said it would be easy.

[Mike]

Did you? Now, do you use a software to create the music or do you.

[Tyler]

I use two of them.

[Mike]

Yeah. Because it's. AI is now very friendly to musicians because you don't have to learn how to play the piano. Do you play the piano?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Is the COVID No, it's not. It's original.

[Mike]

Wow, this look really good.

[Lewis]

That's good, dude.

[Mike]

Anthony's in town.

[Tyler]

Lewis is a musician. I find out everything last minute.

[Mike]

Yeah, Gator, we're doing nice. Doing it tonight.

[Tyler]

Doing it tonight.

[Mike]

We weren't going to do it and then we immediately folded.

[Dominic]

Music off Digital generator.

[Tyler]

You play. You play the piano in this. If you want the music. I. I make the arms, record it in a loop. And you dance.

[Lewis]

Good stuff, lois. Really good. Man.

[Anthony]

Generation.

[Tyler]

This episode is brought to you by. All right, music.

[Mike]

Louis Rotas Martinez, Destiny.

[Lewis]

Okay, bye.

[Mike]

Oh, okay, bye. I think Nick had enough of your music. That's the same. Oh, this is remastered.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Well, keep it playing, Louis.

[Mike]

I love that piano.

[Tyler]

We. This is amazing.

[Lewis]

I will rise because I believe.

[Mike]

Damn.

[Tyler]

This is like. This sounds like the end of like a really good Netflix series. Like your. The show's wrapped up. You're happy. Very good, Louis. Very good. I'll buy into your business. Yeah, we're gonna have a. We're on a meeting after this. So nobody else gets his music.

[Mike]

All right, guys, that's it for the anti hair broadcast. Do it in tomorrow. Oh, tonight.

[Lewis]

Tonight.

[Mike]

Good night shift. 8pm 8pm Counterculture 8 network.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna make sure JoJo's on camera tonight. We'll get her there. Gator. Gator coming. Did he say he's coming?

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

Gator's welcome. CC's welcome. The crew welcome.

[Mike]

Bye, guys.

[Tyler]

This is my time to shine. We'll play tonight, Louis. We promise.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

I'm hungry.

[Mike]

All right. Later.

[Tyler]

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