Broadcast: Conventional Military Has Had ENOUGH (09/22/2025)

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: Broadcast – Conventional Military Has Had ENOUGH

Date: September 22, 2025
Hosts: Tyler, Mike, Jimmy
Special Callers: Listeners, Jimmy’s Dad (Ret. LTC, US Army)

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Episode Overview

This first-ever live “broadcast” Monday-format episode dives deep into the rifts between the conventional military and the special operations (“soft”) community. The hosts open the floor to listener call-ins, address frequently-asked questions and rumors, and focus much of the show on the on-going under-appreciation of conventional forces in the military and law enforcement spheres. They also touch on current events, sports, cultural relevance of uniformed service, and the realities of online drama in the veteran and LEO podcast space.

The tone is rowdy, unfiltered, and brash — true to the “Antihero” ethos.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Podcast & Format Updates

• New Live Show Format:
  • Mondays are now a live, interactive, broadcast-style show — focused on “Monday recap,” current events, and listener engagement, while Thursday remains “for the boys.”
  • Open phone line and live chat enable audience participation.
• Addressing Rumors & Super Chats:
  • Being more transparent about behind-the-scenes changes, handling of super chats (keep them cheap on Mondays, Thursday chat remains rowdy and interactive).

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2. Clearing the Air: Tyler’s “Investigation” at the Sheriff’s Department

(05:01–06:21)

• Rumor Addressed: Tyler was NOT forced out due to any investigation.
  • “Six months ago, Tyler told me, I am quitting the sheriff's office within the next six months. 100%. No investigation, no nothing. Tyler submitted his resignation...” – Tyler (05:09)
  • “While resigning, he was served with a... ...After resign[ing], five days after... he turned his resignation in and applied... denied.” – Tyler & Mike (05:32–05:41)
  • Clarifies the “under investigation” narrative was agency spin after the fact.

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3. The Conventional Military Steps Up

Jimmy’s Direct Call-Out of Rob O’Neill and “Operator” Culture

[07:36–09:45, primary rant clip]

• Key Quote:

  • “Shut the up. The operators are talking. Go yourself. ... Slabs of granite with names on them. How many... are operators? Not many. It's less than 1%... The infantry guys, the field artillery guys, the CAB scouts, the guys from recon, the guys that went out there into sector every single day ... Tell me that you went downrange and saw the shit that the average conventional infantryman, Marine or soldier saw. You didn't. ... When you forget that, you forget your place. Special Operations forces exists for two people, the O3.11 Marine Corps infantryman and the 11 Bravo army infantryman.” – Jimmy (07:41–09:25)

• Key Points:

  • Hard fact: the bulk of the casualties and daily grind fell to conventional units.
  • “Operator” types often get the media, movies, and online attention, while the pain and danger were shouldered by regular grunts, medics, drivers, etc.
  • Special Operations exist to enhance the warfighting potential of the regular military; it is not the other way around.
  • Call-out to Rob O’Neill and other “soft” types for condescension toward conventional vets.

Broader Discussion on Conventional vs. SOF and LEO Parallels

[10:52–16:07]

• “According to Hollywood, the whole goddamn global war on terror was fought by... Seal Team 6...” – Jimmy (09:44)
• Parallels between regular street cops vs SWAT: elite teams get prestige, but regular cops do the bulk of the work.
• The best operators are those who quietly did their jobs; conventional soldiers often can’t claim the same hero status without being seen as egotistical.
• “You can only hear the same war stories 47 times from the same person... I did that same thing. I was just in the 173rd... I was just a Marine...” – Mike (15:09)

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4. Live Audience & Interactive Elements

• Calls with Listeners (“Poopy Johnson,” “Clint/Luda”):

  • Listeners share their frustration at being overlooked as “just the cavalry” or “just a medic.”
  • Anecdotes of pride and funny field stories highlight the diversity of service.
  • “We were really one of the unsung heroes of... the whole war on everything. Because nobody talks about us. It's always SEALs, special forces, infantry... but really in the front lines as well.” – Poopy Johnson (42:26)

• Call-in Snafus and Humorous Moments:

  • Technical hiccups and long-winded callers lampooned in real time, with the hosts calling for “brief, bright, be gone” calls.
  • “Be brief, be bright, be gone. Opposite of Jimmy.” – Tyler (113:49)

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5. Open-Source Military Intel: What’s Coming Next?

[29:38–34:04, Jimmy break-down]

• The DOD expects a “large-scale combat operation” (peer adversary, possibly China) in the next three years.
  • Difficult to acquire tactical materials — a sign of ramp-up and procurement.
  • Medics may need to care for casualties far longer (“golden hour” may not be doable with contested airspace).
  • Military hospitals (“forward facilities”) may now push closer to the frontlines.
• Recommendation to check out Bear Independent for deeper analysis.

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6. Sports & Culture

[40:29–49:56]

• Monday sports recap: NFL highlights, blocked field goals, new kickoff rules, humorous memes.
• Explores how modern technology (YouTube, RedZone) is changing the way fans watch football.
• Commentary on cultural rituals shared by military/police/firefighters (“addicted to caffeine, need therapy, and all underpaid”).

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7. Training & Readiness Concerns in Law Enforcement

[71:33–81:50]

• Discussion: Are first responders really prepared for multiple active-shooter attacks or complex scenarios?
  • Most agencies only train for single-shooter events; true multi-threat scenarios are not adequately drilled.
  • Accreditation and “checkbox training” are giving departments a false sense of preparedness.
  • The next big attack will expose the lack of real, boots-on-the-ground readiness. “Maybe... they'll rip those bogus certificates off the wall... and go, hey, it's time to start fucking getting serious again about law enforcement...” – Tyler (81:50)

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8. “Bro Vet” Drama and Moving On

[58:19–61:35]

• Listeners question why former co-host Brent is no longer on; Mike reiterates:
  • Changes in business structures are normal (“People loved Motley Crue in 1989, but you go to 1992...”).
  • The show will push forward, evolve, and not “cater to the literal fat” who can’t adapt.
• The rise and fatigue of military influencer drama (“BroVet TMZ”) — audience is tired of it.

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9. College Sports and NIL (Name, Image, Likeness)

[87:19–101:34] (with Jimmy’s Dad, Ret. LTC)

• The NCAA’s NIL rules have “ruined” old college football and basketball culture.
  • “Completely out of control... Every year is a wild card year... No more walk-ons... All just one-year mercenaries...” – Jimmy’s Dad (89:41–90:17, summarized)
• The boosters’ role is more powerful and less regulated than ever; paying players is now overt and huge sums.
• Academic requirements for athletes effectively obsolete.
• NIL creates chaos in rosters, loyalty, and traditions (“no more Rudy stories”).

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10. Show Wrap: Community Over Drama

[105:00–108:27]

• Reflection on the realities of doing a show in a hyper-critical, anonymous internet world; the need for constructive criticism but a break from bad-faith drama.
• “You learned that as a kid, too... When you're little and you mouth off to somebody bigger than you and he punches you right in the face, that's when you learn. Like, I have to account for the words that come out of my mouth.” – Mike (105:32)
• The Antihero brand is ultimately about uniting uniformed professions, sharing real truths, and pushing back against cultural erasure and self-loathing.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

“Tell me that you went downrange and saw the shit that the average conventional infantryman, Marine or soldier saw. You didn't. And when you forget that, you forget your place.”
— Jimmy (08:25)

“The best operators are those who quietly did their jobs; conventional soldiers often can’t claim the same hero status without being seen as egotistical.”
— Paraphrase/Tyler & Mike (15:51)

“You can only hear the same war stories 47 times from the same person... I did that same thing. I was just in the 173rd... I was just a Marine...”
— Mike (15:09)

“Most agencies only train for single-shooter events; true multi-threat scenarios are not adequately drilled... It’s just a giant, mass problem.”
— Tyler (80:51)

“People loved Motley Crue in 1989, but you go to 1992, Motley Crew, it’s a totally different sound, and you know it.”
— Mike (58:48)

“Completely out of control... Every year is a wild card year.... No more walk-ons... All just one-year mercenaries...”
— Jimmy’s Dad on college sports NIL changes (89:41–90:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:01–06:21: Tyler’s “investigation” and resignation story
• 07:36–09:45: Jimmy’s “operator” rant (clip played, focus on conventional military losses and respect)
• 10:52–16:07: Expanded discussion on conventional vs. SOF / police-SWAT parallels
• 29:38–34:04: Open-source military predictions (China/near-peer, changes in medic roles)
• 40:29–49:56: Monday sports segment (NFL, Red Zone channel, memes)
• 71:33–81:50: Training reality for cops — active shooter, mass-casualty events
• 87:19–101:34: NIL and College Football, Jimmy’s Dad segment

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Closing Thoughts

The Antihero Podcast doubles down on its signature blend of brash veteran and cop banter with a new format, larger role for audience interaction, and a hard reset on who gets credit for sacrifice in the world of military and public safety.

Listeners’ main takeaways:

• Conventional forces and “regular” responders still hold the line and deserve more recognition.
• The podcast isn’t afraid to skewer the “operator” culture or its own community’s media drama.
• Changes to the show reflect a push for authenticity, unity, and real conversation — not just drama or hero worship.
• The struggle to validate and unify cops, soldiers, and firefighters continues — and the Antihero crew is (loudly) leading the charge for respect and realism.

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Next episode:
Tune in Thursday night for the “Squadcast” – “for the boys.”
Call-in line: [phone]

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Transcript

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

Well, here we are. You survived.

[Mike]

I did.

[Tyler]

We made it. We got our man Jimmy over here.

[Jimmy]

Hey, what's up guys?

[Mike]

Jimmy didn't bring anything for his.

[Jimmy]

No, I brought nothing. I. I was doing first date on a five year old this morning, so.

[Mike]

Kind of it's gonna be a new format. I put some stuff up in the patreon, kind of explaining it, but I mean it's. It's weird, you know, doing it. We're, we're, we're. The whole goal. I'll find the clip I did over a year ago where I said this was a goal to go to a broadcast. You know, unfortunately audio platforms don't have the capability to go live. Audio like Spotify, Apple, all them right now, currently, I'm sure it will be a thing. You cannot go live there. So YouTube's the only option. But going live is more fun, it's more entertaining, keeps you on your toes. Like Mike said, fucking drinking coffee for.

[Tyler]

The first time and you give me a fucking hour and 30 minute drive, just screaming and yelling at people all the way here. So it's a, I'm fucking ready to go as soon as I walk in.

[Jimmy]

If you're at the, if you're at the company area right now at Fort Benning, you've probably ripped like eight cigarettes already and five miles.

[Mike]

So. Yeah. And so, hey, with the super chats, with the Monday, with the Monday shows as much, we're gonna try to read more comments. If it's something that we absolutely need to see and you need us to see it, you can super chat it, but keep it cheap, man. We're trying to cover things and I, I'm an advocate of super chats being for Thursday nights. You know, that's, that's when it's fucking fun. Beers flowing, the boys are chilling, we're all engaging. But if it's something that we absolutely need to see and you want us to see, you know, just 299in or something, we're gonna try to keep up with comments on here. I can't see, but the first one.

[Tyler]

I saw is get Jimmy on the table. That is Jimmy's spot. Yeah, Jimmy is going to be the staple of the show Thursday nights and Mondays, but he's got his spot. He's the couch guy. This will be for the guests we have. There'll be Monday guests, there'll be Thursday guests. We're going to keep the spot open for guests. And Jimmy will be over there. He's going to set up a little, little fluffer station over there.

[Jimmy]

I'll get a desk, man.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I can get you a desk. Want a desk?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, man, I got one. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

You'll sit at a desk and you'll be like, damn, I missed that chair, dude.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, I this so comfortable right now that I'm like, all right, it's morning time.

[Tyler]

Jimmy already had his burner dogs, roller dogs on the way, actually. He was eating bacon beef jerky for breakfast. The, the bacon beef jerky.

[Jimmy]

The, the anti hero broadcast brought to you by Jack Links bacon jerky.

[Mike]

So, yeah, I mean, yes, let's, let's get right into it. The point we just dropped a real. I gotta send it to myself so we can pull it up. But we'll watch it together where Jimmy has some choice words for Rob o'. Neill.

[Tyler]

Can we address that super chat? Am I allowed to. Can I address that for you?

[Mike]

There's already a super chat.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

What's it say?

[Tyler]

Are you under investigation? Can I, can I Run that chain of events.

[Mike]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Jimmy]

About.

[Mike]

I love how this person was like, I need to know that.

[Tyler]

I gotta go. Six months ago, Tyler told me I am quitting the sheriff's office within the next six months. 100%. No investigation, no nothing. Tyler submitted his resignation and applied to be a to work off duty details. Which is an option at Orange County. Yeah, when you resign. While resigning, he was served with a.

[Mike]

No, no, no, no. It was after.

[Tyler]

After resign.

[Mike]

Five days after.

[Tyler]

He turned his resignation in and applied for each notice.

[Mike]

Just like any job applied for extra.

[Tyler]

Duty detail and were was denied.

[Mike]

And that's how I was.

[Tyler]

And then you said, why would you deny me? And then they said, because you're on investigation. We forgot to tell you.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So this whole story that the psychopath is running around telling everybody that Tyler was under investigation. I swear on my four children, six months ago, Tyler told me, I have an exit plan. I'm leaving the sheriff's office. I make. I do good enough at the anti hero podcast to not work ever again. That is on God, 100. And then he was gonna leave. They weren't gonna get to run their little back door operation that somebody reported to them, so they notified him while resigning that he was under investigation. And that is the God's honest truth, 100%. That is what happened.

[Mike]

That is my lawyer right there. Mike. Talk to Mike. You got any questions, you can also ask my wife Heather. She.

[Tyler]

Oh, my God, here come the super chats.

[Mike]

All right, we. I promise you we will get to them. Just keep them cheap. God forbid we do try to make.

[Tyler]

The squad cast is going to stay the same. It's going to be a rowdy super chat. We're trying to make this more of a Monday recap. What's going on in the week? What went over the weekend? We got the Charlie Kirk funeral event. We got block field goals in the NFL. We got all kinds of stuff to talk about. So that's what we're going to try to make this about. We appreciate the super Chats, but we're going to try to keep the regular, conventional followers that just comment. We're going to try to keep them involved in the show. And the super Chats will be Thursday for the boys.

[Mike]

All right. Hey, pull up Instagram real quick and I want. It's in the messages. Take your time. I know we reformatted some of the software, so. But our boy Jimmy just dropped a bomb.

[Jimmy]

Well, I kind of had to, man. I'm sorry.

[Mike]

Not that one. That's a cool Video, though, but we'll. We'll get to that one at some point. If not today, the squad cast. But go to Instagram and it's the last video that I sent. It's the last one in the three.

[Jimmy]

Want to tell us?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

There you go.

[Jimmy]

Shut the up. The operators are talking. Go yourself. And you got problems with dudes who are in Tier one units. Why are you talking to us? Go talk to him. That's your world. You said it. That's your world. We didn't live in your world. Slabs of granite with names on them. How many of them are operators? Not many. It's less than 1%, by the way, just in case you want to do some math. The infantry guys, the field artillery guys, the CAB scouts, the guys from recon, the guys that went out there into sector every single day and put their lives on the line waiting for their dick to be blown off by a EFP for 12, 15, 18 months at a time. Tell me that you went downrange and saw the. That the average conventional infantryman, Marine or soldier saw. You didn't. And when you forget that, you forget your place. Special Operations forces exists for two people, the O3.11 Marine Corps infantryman and the 11 Bravo army infantryman. And when you take something from us conventional guys tell us to shut up and condescend us because we're not operators like you. You lost all of my respect as a man. As a man. And you want to tell us to shut the up the operator. I. I forgot a lot of people. If I had spent all the time naming all the people that. I mean, here's my. My big one. You know, there's that saying that's attributed to, like, five different people that, you know, good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. How many operators were up in the guard tower? Probably not zero. They slept under the blanket of protection that was provided by conventional guys all of the time, and they lived a great life.

[Mike]

So you felt compelled when you saw that comment by Rob. I mean, because is it safe to say that that was pointed generally towards Tier one guys that act like that? But Rob was specifically the one that said it.

[Jimmy]

I. Yeah, I would absolutely say that there. I mean, there's a lot of great guys who are in, you know, soft in general, but there's a specific breed of cat out there that pays lip service to. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, we respect you guys, but the reality is, is that. And it doesn't matter what you're Talking about, they automatically look at you like, oh, you're just a conventional guy. You're 11 bullet sponge, you know. Yeah. You weren't really a war fighter. And according to them and according to Hollywood, the whole goddamn global war on terror was fought by, you know, Seal Team 6 and pretty much Seal Team 6 and the Seals in general. But like, I'm not just talking about them. I'm talking about all of those guys that forgot about the fact that special operations forces exist to amplify effects on the battlefield by the conventional forces.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I talked to. I met a guy on a cruise and he was tanker. And he started talking and, and you know, yeah, I was just a regular guy. And as he started to talk, he talked exactly what you're talking about. 12, 15 hours a day. He said explosion would go off, the back of the tank would drop. And now he's walking through the middle of the town with bullets flying everywhere, trying to use it as armor. And he didn't go very deep into the details of what he did. So I automatically knew he did a lot because the guys that just shut their mouth and say, hey, you know, I did some things, it is what it is. Those are the guys that I think are forgotten. And we have all these movies glorifying everybody else. But what about the regular dudes? Medic, like you said, medics, cab scouts, regular infantry guys. And I say that. So regular, it's not really the word.

[Jimmy]

No, I mean, if I can mention one more, the poor 88 mics that drove the, the combat logistics, they got blasted like crazy.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So there, I mean, there's all kinds of people, you know, like cavalry, Cav scouts are combat arms. Medics are male fit. Medics get sent to the line. You know, I don't know if medics have a choice or not to not go to the line, the line being the infantry. But when a medic attaches himself to a infantry platoon, he trains with them. He does. He does PT with them. He does. I mean, as far as I remember, or as far as I know, that's what they did back in the day. You know, the guys that worked at the aid station stuff, they all did their little medic training, but guys that took pride in their job and actually wanted to utilize their skills on the battlefield got attached to line units and they trained with them. So I mean, again, we. Infantry versus soft, we're all grunts here, so it was just easier for. To say that. But I mean, overall we mean conventional because there was 100, there was at some point in the G wat there was. Is my camera working? I can't hear myself. Oh, there we go.

[Jimmy]

Just kidding.

[Mike]

Just kidding. At some point. Well, I know there was cooks that saw Morgan trigger time, the Navy seals. It's just time and place, you know. So to take away, you know, we're all going to talk. But to take away from the conventional side, I'm, I'm, I love. There's some of those soft guys that, that are on YouTube. I have podcasts that I love.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean my head. Jimmy Watson's Jimmy Watson.

[Mike]

Nate from Valhalla. I know he catches a lot of heat. He's a solid dude. He's a great dude. He's. He's good to me. He's always been good to me. Andy Stump, you know, Taylor KAVANAUGH.

[Jimmy]

But Pat McNamara is.

[Mike]

He is equal. I don't know who that is. Oh, you told me. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Jimmy]

Max. Great dude.

[Mike]

So.

[Tyler]

Well, it's kind of like the police and swat. The police, the regular cops are on the street and then you have the SWAT guys. They shouldn't be better trained. Everybody should be trained. The basics all the way around. And then SWAT would be just different trained. And that's kind of what look at infantry versus the special ops community. Basic marksmanship, toughness, all that stuff. You have to be that across the board. But then there's different missions that SWAT or special ops is going to do that the regular army guys aren't. But when you put them all next to each other in a group, there shouldn't be so much. There's not much disparity between the guys. I mean with the mindset and what they want, you know, what the precision.

[Mike]

Tactics is, is what specialized units are used for. So special ops and special operations forces, the military or swat, when you're referencing police, they're. They're precision tactics based. So. But I mean I knew street cops out there that were more fit. It can shoot better than the SWAT dudes. That's what guy just tried out. He made the team and he's part of a team that utilizes precision to get the job done. And the cop that's good at all those things has not put to the test. You know, could he pass trials? We don't know. Would he be a good member of the team? We don't know.

[Tyler]

But. And I'll, I'll argue this, that because of ego, some of those guys say it. I'm not going to go be part of that. Yeah, ego driven nonsense where I can skip out on this training. I can slide out on this. I don't have to do that. I'm a SWAT guy. And they. They use that to their advantage to circumvent some of the training and some other things where some guys are like, you know what? I'm not dealing with that. Click. I'm just gonna go do my own thing.

[Mike]

Is our phone line up and working?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

All right, so before we get that. So we'll just wrap this up and. I mean, Jimmy, if I'm wrong, let me know. But I think all of the conventional people in the world are done with the soft stuff, done with the drama, done. Because you can only hear the same war stories 47 times from the same person, not taken away from what they did at all. But there's 47 dudes watching that going, I did that same thing. I was just in the 173rd. I was just in the 82nd. I was just a Marine, like, so it doesn't. I don't have a YouTube channel. And. And they don't want it. They don't want. And I'm not sitting here saying that the regular guys want any of that. And.

[Tyler]

But they almost can't say it, though. If they say it, they look egotistical. But an SF guy or. Or soft guy can say it, and he's. He's a hero. Yeah, he can say, I'm. I'm this, I'm that. If a regular guy go, hey, dude, I was overseas. And they're like, yeah, whatever, dude.

[Jimmy]

So I heard this from somebody. I can't say who, but he was. He was attached to a Tier one unit, and he basically said, look, the majority of the strike missions that went out went absolutely perfect. They went perfect because the gear was there, the training was there, the intelligence was there. Everybody was the best of the best, and the assets were astronomical. And when it did go bad, and it sometimes did, yeah, okay. It was. It was pretty freaking hairy because they were already. I mean, like, Black Hawk down, you know, the October 3rd battle. Why do we know about that battle? It was. It was never supposed to go that way. That's why. And so we've got to kind of remember that, like, the average conventional person, whoever it is, went out and didn't have a freaking clue what was going to happen. When they drove out of the wire, they. They were like, all right, whatever comes, comes, it's me and my boys, and, you know, I may go up in a puff of smoke or get my, you know, body vaporized by an efp or, you know, get shot in the face in the turret or ambushed at this traffic. I mean, on and on and on it goes. You want to hear some. Some real badass guys, you know, talk to the dudes that fought in Fallujah.

[Mike]

Or Ramadi and that lived, like in the dirt. Like, bro, dude, no showers. Like, some of those guys. I got some messages like, man, I didn't shower nine months, dog. Nine. And that's what the infantry is designed for. You were designed to occupy a battle space and. And live in a foxhole and hold that position until they can get all their supplies.

[Tyler]

Definitely indefinitely. Yeah.

[Mike]

So, you know, it just. That whole thing with the, you know, women joining combat arms, my biggest thing with that was that women have to wash their vaginas. If they don't wash their vaginas, they could get very sick. So now we're having to make sure our soldiers are not getting sick. So we're now having to utilize logistics and trucks to take them to shower stations that may or may not be there so they don't end up dying in the foxhole next to you. And, you know, from whatever happens in your vagina. Is that. Is there a technical term?

[Tyler]

I'm sure there is.

[Jimmy]

I mean, but you know, the Marine Corps did a study. Not. It was while I was in college. So it had to have been like 2015 when they were just talking about, you know, opening up combat arms to females. And the. They did a regular all male infantry platoon. They didn't select anybody. They were just like, they just grabbed random people, went, okay, you guys are gonna make this platoon. And then they did a mixed platoon of male and female, and then they did a full platoon of female. Right. So they all had the same tasks. They basically went down a sticks lane, you know, hey, conduct, you know, you know, conduct battle drill one Alpha. Conduct battle drill one platoon. Attack squad, attack conduct battle drill six inner building, clear room. And then moving, you know, casualties and things like that. The mixed platoon took more non combat or, you know, non training related injuries. So they're all training, but like, you know, guys were overworking muscles because the female has to carry the saw and now she can't do it anymore. So now I got to empty stuff out of her ruck so I can carry it. Now are there females out there that can do it? Hell, yeah. But there ain't that many. And when we lower our standards, I don't care if it's a dude or a chick, if you lower your physical fitness standards for the infantry, people are going to get broke off and you're not going to be able to have the effects when you have to go do battle Drill one Alpha.

[Mike]

There's a, there's a guy in the chat's name, Potwash and he says with all the incidents in Leo recently and with two cops that are hosts, how are you still talking about the military? No, no, wait, wait, wait. His next comment was 3 cops died in a shooting a couple days ago. And the hot. And the topic is G. What? Well, holy man, if you would have tuned into the last Thursday night squad cast, we covered them and named all their names and covered the entire incident. So Potwash.

[Tyler]

I got them again. Cody Becker is Isaiah Amenhauser and Mark Barker. Baker.

[Jimmy]

I'm sorry?

[Tyler]

Mark Baker killed in Pennsylvania, ambushed. We covered it on Thursday night.

[Jimmy]

Had the pictures.

[Tyler]

I keep, I keep ODMP notifications on, on my phone. I get them every day. You can't make everybody happy because the comments off from Thursday till today were the more on Cops are only going to talk about cop stuff. So I mean, I can talk a lot, I can say a lot. I cannot be there for120,000 subscribers and ask each of you what we want to talk about. We will cover it all.

[Mike]

It's a culture show.

[Tyler]

And follow Copville. I didn't even pop myself when I was supposed to.

[Mike]

I was, yeah, you gotta learn.

[Tyler]

[e-mail] Sign in the background. Copville. And I cover all, all the cop stuff. Bad cops, good cops, administration, I go after them. But now I'm co host here. So we're going to balance it a little bit.

[Mike]

Like I said, it's a, it's an, it's a cultural thing, right? I mean, at the end of the day, you put a fucking uniform on and you serve in some capacity. I mean, I've got fucking news for firefighters today. We don't even have a fucking firefighter here.

[Jimmy]

We can get one.

[Mike]

I'm sure we can get one. But I mean outside doing a car.

[Tyler]

Wash or hot dog or something.

[Mike]

So I mean like the whole point is regular average dudes that put on uniforms and go serve their community or their country, it's the same. We're addicted to caffeine, we need therapy and we're all underpaid. All right? So if you, and if you want.

[Tyler]

To talk about that, that's what. Yeah, I'll pop the number. So if anybody wants to interact by phone, text, call us, be on the air. 7722-1754-5377-2217-5453.

[Mike]

Probably gonna have to give them a time. Hold on. Pull out your notepad. Because what we want you to do is we want you to text us what you want to talk about.

[Tyler]

We'll call you.

[Mike]

As long as you're not a. We want good conversation. We want it. We want critiques. We want critics. We want support too. We want you, you know, anybody that wants to unilaterally talk with us about a topic, we love it. It's got to be quick. But you know, this is part of the entertainment side.

[Tyler]

As we get growth and we learn not to be just dumb cops in military, I think we could get to the point where maybe we could jump them in.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Remote as well. But starting now won't get your little. Get your little dick beater out and put your pen on it. 772-217-5453. Text us, give us a topic. If it's something that we think we should talk about on the air, we'll give you a call and you can, you can cuss me out live. There's one dude in the YouTube that really hates my guts.

[Mike]

Maybe he can call in somebody said Mike from Virginia wouldn't would have sent more but my hot water heater, the bed at least got something to listen to while I swap it out. Hell yeah. Man up arm. I love it.

[Tyler]

Catastrophe.

[Mike]

Yesterday Poopy Johnson gave us a dollar. Love it, man. Poopy Johnson gave us another dollar. Love it, man. Poopy Johnson gave us two dollars and said U.S. cavalry. All right, bud. Recon X gaming need to look into PFC Greg Williams regular army and receive the distinguished service cross in Iraq.

[Jimmy]

Greg Williams.

[Mike]

You got it.

[Tyler]

I'll cover that. Yep, I'll look it up.

[Mike]

Justin Gintar.

[Tyler]

Should I read that?

[Mike]

What feels Message I was 101st medic Iraq 08. You get put in the lineup in the line. No choice in the matter. I would have picked either way. Glad I was good. All right, cool. Oh, wait. Yeah. That's when I was in so okay, I guess you do get to choose to go to the line. Clint Romache and Carter cavalry Medal of army honors and Clint Romesha and Carter here.

[Jimmy]

Clint Roma real quick.

[Tyler]

If you're making comments and you're determined to be a vagina, you're going to have to mandatory website visit to HBTRT to get your blood work done and then get on testosterone. So if the chat votes you as a honor honorable vagina then you have to go to HPTR hp. Yeah you need to get trt dot com, get your blood work done. You get a code. We'll give you some discounts on that. But we need to get you when you get your estrogen and your test.

[Mike]

Levels bouncing, dealing with a lot of people that need higher testosterone levels, acting like little but easy, easy. Sorry. So. Yeah. What. What did Phil say?

[Tyler]

That's what he said. I summarized it for him. I said it the right way.

[Jimmy]

Hey, by the way, Kevin Peach asked if we could tag him in the video that dropped.

[Tyler]

Yeah. What's that?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The one of you.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, man, he wants to smoke.

[Jimmy]

He wants to smoke.

[Mike]

I didn't want that smoke. You're gonna get some smoke, bro. Hey, you know what? And actually, if. If anybody has Rob o' Neill's DMS opened, obviously he blocked us a long time ago. That's fine. Hey man, the anti hero broadcast guys would love to have you on. Bring him in remotely. We'll talk to him.

[Tyler]

You know, here's what he did to me. He message. He commented back to me when I comment in his thread. He thought he had me. Then I responded and then he changed it to talking in the third person. And that said Rob didn't know who I was after he specifically said something that only somebody who knows me would say and then deleted it all.

[Mike]

We won't call you out. We won't be an. Oh no, we're done with this whole calling individuals out. It's a toxic environment. It's.

[Tyler]

We'll have you on. We'd love to have you sit right here.

[Mike]

It's a tolerance. We can bring his remote screen right here. But I mean the whole fucking trying to do all that and I know you're gonna be like, oh, it's because the snake bit back. And you know, I didn't do mind you I did I. No one. None of these regular ass dudes were in here, you know, but we're. We're done with that. You know, I still get a lot of requests. Can you look into. The biggest one is Corey Mills. And at most we would just talk about it. I'm. We're not gonna be like Corey Mills. You need to be held accountable. You know, just a lot are wondering what the deal is with Corey Mills and we've covered it before. Brent ran through, read through a. An article about it and that's the extent of the. On the Internet. Anything else you have to deep dive and then you start getting hearsay. Then you start getting nothing that's documented. And it's just. It's it's, it's drama filled and then all the other pages latch on and want to, you know, becomes.

[Jimmy]

Becomes Brovette tmz.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And. And do we have our. Do we have our clip? We have to have it. It's in our. It's in our intro. You know what I'm talking about?

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send it to the.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, send it, send it to me. Because this is going to be like, this is the end. This is the.

[Mike]

I'm sure it'll take a couple weeks to kind of like everybody, including us, get used to everything, the new format, what's going on. But, you know, this is already way more fun and I can't wait to get a guest here. I can't wait to. And it's gonna happen. We have them lined up. It's just. We're done rushing it. We're done trying to make sure we have something at 7am with a guest that's a merit. And, you know, so if we had.

[Jimmy]

Pat McAfee's pool, maybe we could do a little better.

[Mike]

What's the.

[Tyler]

How do you met. Single lady cops. Walk up to them when they're eating.

[Mike]

Lunch, try to grab their gun.

[Tyler]

No, I say, damn, I wish you would arrest me. And my wife loves that one. Try that one. Walk up to the female cop when she's eating.

[Mike]

They pretty much fall in love with you.

[Tyler]

Yeah, just walk up and say, baby, arrest me. Or play that Little Wayne song. I like that one too. Try that.

[Mike]

First topic of the morning. It's Monday. A lot happened last week, so what we'll try to do.

[Tyler]

I gotta. I got our first guy on the horn here.

[Mike]

Oh, what's it.

[Tyler]

You want to do it? He wants to talk about the cavalry.

[Jimmy]

The Cav. Yeah.

[Mike]

It's got, it's got to be quick.

[Tyler]

Quick. Here we go.

[Mike]

Make sure he turns his YouTube down if.

[Tyler]

Make sure you turn your YouTube down if you're watching. Let me try calling this guy. Call.

[Mike]

We're. We're working through the kinks, guys. At some point we're gonna. He's gonna put it up to the.

[Jimmy]

Hey, man, we're. We're high speed here.

[Poopy Johnson]

Hello?

[Tyler]

Hey, what's going on? You're live, man. Talk to me about the ca.

[Poopy Johnson]

Yeah, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you guys. I love you guys commentary. And I watch you guys all the time.

[Tyler]

What's your name, man?

[Poopy Johnson]

I'm a big fan.

[Tyler]

What's your name, bud?

[Poopy Johnson]

Well, my name. I'm gonna just keep It Johnson.

[Tyler]

I said you'd have to tell me your government name. We just need somebody to say Poopy Johnson. Poopy Johnson, man. Thank you so much for the support. Thanks for calling in, man. We appreciate it.

[Poopy Johnson]

Yeah, I sent you like five super chats.

[Tyler]

I've seen it, man. We appreciate it, man. We can count on Poopy Johnson on and Thursdays, right?

[Jimmy]

Yes, sir.

[Tyler]

All right, man. Appreciate it so much, man. Thanks for calling.

[Jimmy]

Dude, this is. This is already gonna be wild.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

This is gonna be.

[Tyler]

You know, I grew up listening to a syndicated well show and went called the Love Doctors.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And they were Glenn and Rich, and I ended up meeting them one time, and when I was a kid and I was 17, 18, I thought, man, that'd be a really cool job. Everybody called in. It was a radio show, and I just did it, man. So I'd worked. You did it. 26 years of misery to take my first live call on some type of stream. I'm done, dude. I'm out.

[Mike]

You made it.

[Tyler]

I'm quitting. You're under investigation. I'm qu. I'm done.

[Mike]

All right, so first topic of the day. Let's. Let's. What. What do you guys got?

[Jimmy]

Okay, so since I. Apparently I'm. I. I got. I got to be the Mr. Spock in the room whenever we need somebody.

[Tyler]

Definitely the smartest guy in the room.

[Jimmy]

Dude, do not. Do not say that again. My wife will slap me when I get home. So there's. There's open source intel out there. So those of you that don't know, open source intel means that you can go find it. You don't have to have a spy satellite. You don't stuff to intercept signals. You can just go out there and find it, whether that be social media or news reports or whatever. So there's open source intel right now that the Department of Defense and I don't care what anybody freaking says about, oh, it's the Department of War now. Yeah, I got it. They rebranded. Very cool. But it go look at your contracts. They still say Department of Defense on them. So that's still what it is. Has basically said that they expect what they call large scale combat operations. So that means a real peer adversary. And there's really only one, and that's China. Within the next three years, it's become very, very difficult to get a hold of things like tactical nylon that is in multicam or coyote or marpat. Woodland marpat.

[Mike]

I don't even know what that is.

[Jimmy]

So that's the Marine Corps pattern that's there.

[Mike]

Oh, they got the bet.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The best in everything.

[Jimmy]

They really are.

[Mike]

Dude.

[Jimmy]

It's so. It's so annoying. They have the best uniforms. I mean, we had. We had BDUs, which were great.

[Mike]

They did. They. Everybody had BDUs.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Once. I don't know what directive came out where everybody would just.

[Jimmy]

So did their own thing. So the. The Marine Corps re. Basically did their own pattern. Right. And it was like early 2000s, late 90s. And the thing was, the army was like, hey, this is a great pattern. We really like to use it too. In the Marine Corps. Stuck in ega, that's an eagle globe and anchor into every. They put it into all the patterns, so the army can't use it. So then. Yeah, because they're petty like that. They're still not over the fact that the. The largest amphibious invasion in history, D Day. They were not invited to. Because we're petty. The army is petty, man. And so the army was like, well, we got to have a digital pattern too. And they stuck us acu. So that's happening. The other thing that they talked about, and again, this is open source, is that, you know how, like when we went to CLS or OMS or D Mock or tccc, like, they were like.

[Mike]

Hey, you got to get your cabins or medics courses.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Or combat casualty care courses.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. You got to get your casualty back to a higher level of care within an hour. Right. The golden hour. Remember, we got to have. We got to have nine line going out. The military expects that because of contested airspace, meaning we will not have air superiority and we won't be fighting dudes and man jammies and Jesus jump boots that we're not going to be able to do that. So medics are going to have to go a lot longer. Yeah. And so they're looking at doing machine learning and basically like a tablet that can help diagnose people on the battlefield. And then remember, Tyler, if you got wounded in Iraq and you were badly wounded, you got flown to Germany and then you got flown back to, you know, Walter Reed or. Yeah, you know, for us it was Tripler Army Medical Center. Shout out to Crippler. All you guys are awesome. So what they're actually looking at doing is moving those facilities and personnel forward, closer to the forward line of troops, like, a lot further forward. So instead of going back to Bethesda, Maryland or wherever you go, like, you might be getting treated like 400 miles from the front so they can turn your butt back around. That's the plan right now. Like that. And they expect this to happen in three years now, will it? We don't know, but they're planning for it. So, you know, that's. That's my first one of the day. And if. If you want a deeper dive into this, I'm gonna. I'm gonna shout out a YouTube channel that I. If you don't have any problems with that.

[Mike]

No, absolutely.

[Jimmy]

Bear independent dot com. Go.

[Tyler]

You still have a problem.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, we used to.

[Mike]

Wait, what?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

What I missed you couldn't shout anybody out.

[Jimmy]

So if you want a deeper dive on what I just talked about, go to Bear independent. He's on YouTube. He has a really great YouTube channel. He does iFax. He's. Dude. Dude is awesome.

[Mike]

I got news.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

For any of our firefighters listening. I don't know. I didn't know this a thing, but Plano, Texas will be the first one to adopt the 24 hours on 72 hours off shift for firefighters after the city council unanimously approved a new contract with the fire department. So you literally, you. You work one day and you have three days off.

[Tyler]

That's cool.

[Mike]

That's insane. How do they do that? You work.

[Tyler]

I got. I got breaking breaking news.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Very, very happy breaking news. All right, let's hear it live on Anti Hero. I would like to congratulate Sal o' Drotty and his wife on the birth of their baby boy just delivered. I just got the picture. That shows you what kind of guy he is thinking about us. Just him and his wife just welcomed the baby boy into the world. And he sent me the picture shortly after the baby was born.

[Mike]

Is it all right, Sal, you better be listening to us right now.

[Tyler]

He's listening.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Hopefully.

[Mike]

I don't care if she's still post labor. You got to be listening. But, you know, Sal was on Anti Hero. Actually, he wasn't. His parents came and told his story. Getting railroaded by the district attorney in attorney general. Attorney general in New Jersey. Their Sal was cleared for a good shoot. Cleared by his agency, cleared by the state. And then what, two years later, this Soros planted attorney general started trying to go after cops, which happens all the time. It's happened in Orlando here. They go after cops for good shoots because they try. They do a grand. Grand jury is that's what's called?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And you don't. You don't need to indict them. In fact, most of these cops don't even get word that there's a grand jury trial about them. And then they find out from their lawyers and the union that they got to go walk in jail.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he was driving down the road when he got a call from his lawyer, said, you just been indicted for murder. You have to go turn yourself into the Camden County Jail.

[Mike]

Can you imagine that dude? No, I would.

[Tyler]

What a great family. What a great dude.

[Mike]

To tell you the type of cop Sal is, the guy still wants to stay in the job.

[Tyler]

Well, his agency supported him. Let's remember, like, there's not many agencies were left that if we weren't talking cop stuff, most of your agencies are going to hang out to dry. Sals didn't. Sals was cleared. He was cleared. He was good to go back to work. He actually got promoted and got officer of the year. Between the shooting and his indictment, they would have kept him, but there's a Jersey statute that doesn't allow somebody to stay on the job if they're charged with a certain level of crime. So since he was charged with murder, he couldn't stay on. But we were able to get him in touch with Eddie Gallagher, Andrea Gallagher, and the pipe at her foundation. And Sal and his family are being compensated by your generous donation to the Pipe Hitter foundation to allow him to.

[Mike]

Eddie is the man.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he is the man.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

You did say sheeps.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

I think there's some studies coming out about dementia and creatine helping with that.

[Mike]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I thought you were gonna say creatine causing dimension. No, don't say that.

[Tyler]

No, no, I think. Because I. You know, I have the same issue with my brain.

[Mike]

I mean, you use this stuff, too, right?

[Tyler]

All of it? Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, that's my big thing. Like, I. I tried. I.

[Tyler]

Problem is, the creatine gummies are so good. They're like.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Like, I'm. When I'm dieting, I'm like, wow, grab two. Well, because there's two of those when.

[Mike]

You'Re taking creatine, which you should. I mean, I don't know. There's. There's people that say you should cycle off creatine. I don't. I don't know. But I know when you're taking creatine, you need to take it every day, whether you work out or not. So let's say you take Sundays off. You got to remember to take your powder. And, you know, the. The gummies are just. These gummies are just. They're like. You just pull five out. They're a gram a piece. There's your five grams, and you eat them like a little baggie of fruit snacks. They're so good. And then on top of it, you know, you get these bags. They're resealable, and you take them with you wherever you go. So if you go out of town, I mean, we travel a lot, so, you know, these gummies are way more effective than bringing a bottle of white powder that spills all over everything. Miserable Spam. So, yeah, good stuff.

[Tyler]

I never. Actually. Never. I've never bothered creatine until these guys, because I just. I wasn't. I wasn't with that powder, man. It's miserable.

[Mike]

What's next?

[Tyler]

Is it Jimmy turn?

[Jimmy]

No, let's talk football.

[Tyler]

Oh, we had a wild. I got one. Congratulations. And happy anniversary to Jerry and Liz Worms. They just celebrated their 23rd wedding anniversary over the weekend. Okay, Jerry, the Gate, the Great.

[Mike]

The Goon, the goat, the OG cops in the show cops.

[Tyler]

The very first episode of cops. 1989, Broward County. Stop or I'LL shoot you in the back. Jerry Worms. Worms and Liz Worm celebrated 23 years together. I don't know how people make it that long.

[Jimmy]

Dude. Dude. But hey, hey, just so. Just so we're aware, I mean, we can still talk sports because it's. It's getting there. But we got to remember that the Lieutenant Colonel is going to call out and. And he has got. He's got some fire waiting for us.

[Mike]

All right? So let's. Let's.

[Tyler]

Sports day.

[Mike]

So you guys watch football all day yesterday. How do you watch football now?

[Tyler]

I watch the Red Zone.

[Mike]

How do you watch.

[Tyler]

So if I'm a miserable Giants fan, so anybody wants to donate to my mental health. So I watched the Red Zone all day because I didn't have a dog in the fight all day for fantasy. I just. So red zone's like 80D crack and everything mixed into one. It's just a channel. It starts at one and it ends with the last work. It just flashes. It goes game to game to game.

[Mike]

But how do you watch it? What do you.

[Tyler]

Oh, YouTube. YouTube has the. You have to take it out. You don't have to buy the package. It's cheaper if you buy YouTube TV, but. Or you can steal it. Most guys stream it.

[Mike]

But, like, if you wanted to watch Monday Night Football back in the day, you turned on abc.

[Tyler]

No, Hulu still has that. You have to have Hulu. But okay, like, the Giants game was on Hulu last night. But for Sunday football, you got your two games usually on one o', clock, one on one, or two games on four o' clock local. But I turn on the Red Zone channel on YouTube and just, I mean, hit it all day.

[Jimmy]

I mean, so I'm a. I'm a die hard Buccaneers fan.

[Tyler]

I played good.

[Jimmy]

I mean, three. Three straight games, two minutes left, Baker Mayfield drives down the field.

[Tyler]

I made a meme out of that game immediately. When the jets coach did that dance down the side, we're like, hey. Oh, my God.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Like, it was instant. I got a little cred for that one. It was like the fastest meme in history. The jets coach did some, like, dance down the sideline when he thought they won. They ended up losing.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

But it was. It was like an instant classic meme. Like, dude was. It was great.

[Mike]

So I miss watching football. I got out of football, what, 10 years ago when they got political and I was like, ah, I'm not.

[Tyler]

I did too.

[Mike]

Criminals. But it is an American staple.

[Tyler]

Since we're at a break, I'm gonna give the cab guy, I cut him off.

[Mike]

So he wants one more time a break.

[Tyler]

No, we're not on a break. We're gonna give poopy pants or whatever his name is, he wants one more chance to shout out what he. What I cut him off on.

[Mike]

Oh, okay, so.

[Tyler]

Hell yeah, dude, have at it, man. You're live. Talk to us.

[Poopy Johnson]

Yes, I just want to talk to you guys about the U. S. Cavalry.

[Tyler]

Okay, go ahead, hit it.

[Poopy Johnson]

I think that we were, we're really one of the unsung heroes of, of the World War I, the whole war on everything. Because nobody talks about us. It's always Fields, special forces, infantry, but really in the front lines as well.

[Tyler]

I agree. That's what, that's why we're here.

[Jimmy]

I mentioned you in the video.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we mentioned the cavalry.

[Poopy Johnson]

Yes, that's why I appreciate it. But there's times when I, like when I got out, I got out at 28 years old. I joined. I was 19. I got out, I went to school.

[Mike]

You got out.

[Poopy Johnson]

I went to college. And I would tell, some guys were like, what do you, you know, ask about me as well as Kim army? And I said, what would you, what did you do? I said, well, you know, I was, you know, I did this, this and that. Like, were you special forces? Like, no, man. Like, no, that's all Calvary.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Nobody, you know, like, yeah, I get it.

[Poopy Johnson]

That's just that they, for them, they see it as special things and for us just conventional things we do, like going in the houses and you know, colonists, artillery, like that's normal for us. And I really feel, I just want to put out the calvary because we're the, we're the real.

[Tyler]

We respect the pride and we respect the calvary, man. We thank. Appreciate it, man.

[Mike]

Thank you, Poopy.

[Jimmy]

Thank you, man.

[Tyler]

Thank you so much.

[Jimmy]

I mean, dude, the only people more obnoxiously prideful than marines are cav scouts, cab scouts when it's time for a spur ride. So I'm gonna tell. So we got attached to the, they call it rista, Reconnaissance, surveillance and target acquisition. We got attached to them for a little while, which means that we technically my infantry company earned our stetson and spurs, right? And we were eligible to go to the cavalry ball when we came back. Well, we, they treated us like the red headed step troll and fine, whatever, but then the sergeant major came around and was like, hey you guys, you got your Stetson and spurs, here's your, here's your certificates and you guys are invited to the Cavalry Ball. And then he comes, he's coming around and he's talking all the NCOs. And he goes to my buddy Tommy, whose last name I won't say because he's an active duty cop right now up in Illinois.

[Mike]

And I could tell that you're not a cop because you called him an active duty cop.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. Not. Never was. And he goes, hey, you know, Sarn W. You're gonna come to the Cavalry Ball, right? And my buddy Tommy turns around and goes, sergeant Major, I'd rather fuck a dude. Go to the Cavalry.

[Tyler]

It's like the tail. There we go. What you got? 3 comments in a row. I'm hanging on. You're my boy, Tyler. This is actually sad. What anti hero has become. Brent must be big mad to leave. Like, it's, it's such a world of like.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but you know, there's so many positive comments. Like, if you go over to YouTube, I'm about.

[Mike]

I'm telling you, I'm about three weeks out from going full Tyler. So I'm giving people the, you know, the, the, the chance because it is change. It's like being mad at your mom and dad for divorcing. I get it. Trust me, I understand. I'm trying not to roast people in the comments because they aren't being dicks, but they're asking the same question that's been asked. I mean, just go back and look at four episodes. I mean, we covered it all. But I'll continue to be patient.

[Tyler]

People don't know what. Honestly. And I didn't know this how. And I'm not. I'm just saying that this is the truth. How much work you put into this dude. I don't think anybody mildly understands. I don't know how you do it now, not working. When you were working. I have no idea how a dude worked 12 hour shifts and spent 20, 30 hours a week in the studio doing what you do. Making the reels, doing the editing, bringing the guests, picking them up.

[Mike]

It's a legitimate small business.

[Tyler]

I don't know how you do it. I don't. I still don't know how you do it. And I try to take on as much as I can, but you're like the type of dudes. It's like you've asked very little of me, even though you know. But I. I don't know how you do it. I guess I don't care if nobody likes you, and that's fine. They don't have to like you, but to just make it Seem like Tyler, it's not the same, but okay. You had a guy sitting here that talked, great, that's fine, bro. You made. You did a lot of work, man. You still do. And it's like that's the part that sucks for me when I see that, like, I don't care if they don't like you, but they don't understand the amount of work and hard work and logistical nightmare it is to take your kids to practice, run the show, pick people up, drop people off. Logistics topics.

[Mike]

Somebody said, never go full Tyler.

[Jimmy]

I want to say it's true.

[Tyler]

It needs be to. To happen.

[Mike]

Never go.

[Tyler]

It needs.

[Mike]

It gets clipped on the Internet and they're like up.

[Tyler]

See, See, he's a.

[Mike]

He's an angry guy.

[Tyler]

I just, like I said, I mean.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I mean not only that, but I mean like two hour phone conversations about business and hey, we got to talk about.

[Tyler]

Did you see me start loading the dishwasher yesterday?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

My wife yelled at me, oh, I can only take. I can only take so much. And it started to hit that point and I'm like over there.

[Mike]

Like, Mike is not good at having long conversations about anything.

[Tyler]

Really.

[Mike]

I'm surprised he hasn't quit this.

[Tyler]

I started loading my dishwasher. My wife's like, what you doing? I'm like, I can't take anymore.

[Mike]

Can't take anymore. Yeah, there's a lot. There's business stuff that goes on, business discussions that happen. And you know, it's, it's.

[Tyler]

We all got our good thing. Mia, me on the phone for long periods of time is not. Not one of them.

[Mike]

So back to football.

[Tyler]

Football. Still talking football.

[Mike]

Oh, I mean, we quit and we went.

[Tyler]

Well, we had.

[Mike]

We had poopy come back.

[Tyler]

We had the Jet. We had the jets doing the dance. Then we had the Eagles down by.

[Jimmy]

How many block field goals were there?

[Tyler]

There were three big ones.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean they not. They knocked one down on the Bucks.

[Tyler]

And Eagles were losing 26 to 7, came back, took the lead and then blocked. Blocked a field goal as time expired. And the big fat dude that blocked it picked it up and ran it back for a touchdown. And then you had the Browns block a field goal to beat the Packers.

[Mike]

So there's a lot of black field goals.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Special teams.

[Tyler]

Well, Giants had one block because their kicker was hurting some left handed, left.

[Jimmy]

Footed special teams is. Is in the office.

[Tyler]

They fixed the kickoff too. They fixed the kickoff this year. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You like the kickoff?

[Tyler]

Well, they fixed it so there's now there's a zone and if the ball lands within like the 20 in the goal line, they have to return it. And it happened last week where a guy let it go and it was a touchdown for the other team because in the old days you just let it go in the end zone. It was, it was a touchback automatically. See if it lands in that little area, you have to field it. And the dude kind of got confused. He let it go, it rolled to the back of the Enzo and the Seahawks recovered for a touchdown.

[Jimmy]

It's so wild to watch a kickoff where nobody moves.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's weird. I mean, but it's fixed to the point well before when I mean, there's Nothing better than two 260 pound juiced up dudes running full speed and running, having car crash CTE immediately their head heads on sideways. I mean, that was.

[Mike]

So you agree with it?

[Tyler]

I think it's yes. I mean, at some point.

[Mike]

Because the thing about pro football and combat sport athletes is that they are going to do it. And it's almost like leagues and, and society has to determine they're gonna do it. So if we ask them to do it, they're gonna do it. I want to be a pro football player, right? I'm gonna do anything that the arena asked me to do. I am the man in the arena, right? So you almost have to say, we're not going to ask you to do that.

[Tyler]

Only time I disagree with it is plays like across the middle where it's almost impossible for a 220 pound dude to be going full speed and then try to miss the head at the last second. When like a receiver dives or something, it's like, I get it, it's an injury, he's going to get hurt. But how do you expect. And I see there's more injuries on those dudes trying to contort their body or stop when they normally would have just gone all in. Yeah, those ones I can't stand. But yes, you got. I mean, these guys are just too big and too strong now to be running full speed.

[Mike]

I'm going to let you. I'm going to. Once we're done with sports, I'm going to let you address that orange chat, Mike, because I love seeing you get hot and bothered.

[Jimmy]

Oh, I mean, do you, do you want to go. I mean, he's like, he's like a junkie.

[Mike]

He's about to throw his goddamn drink.

[Tyler]

We got other ones, right?

[Mike]

Yeah, we'll cover that. Let me cover the other ones first.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

Let'S see we got that one. U.S. calvary is a long time listener. Barely get up to see lives due to. Barely get to see live due to work. But glad I can work and listen and good luck and congrats on everything.

[Tyler]

We might be like we might be live every. Every day at some point.

[Mike]

Every day at some point. That's the goal. But the, the and I'll just talk. I don't really do a lot of insider stuff on here. We talk on the other channels that we do but those are like hidden gems and we'll get, we'll we talk about this, but I will talk about here is that the business has to grow, the podcast has to grow, the broadcast has to grow and people, you know, you ask, you ask three people to take time out of their days to do something twice a week. That's asking a lot. So to. It would have to be full time job money and we would have to have more producers. We would have to have. We would have to have a lot. But that is the goal.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And in the network right now we have live Monday morning. Now we have live sports on counterculture. Tonight at 7 we have guys on the ground live Tuesday night we have Phil with hpt. Phil Hptrt. I'm sorry, Phil Hptrt is Tuesday night.

[Mike]

Yeah, so it's guys on ground before.

[Tyler]

Okay, before that then we have my recorded show. Cobbville goes out Wednesday morning or Wednesday at noon. A hot topic with Cotteville goes off 7pm Wednesday, Thursdays for the boys.

[Mike]

Wait, Dom Izzo's after you.

[Tyler]

Oh, he's on a break though. He's at a cooking show now. Oh, Dom's on a break. He started a cooking show. And then Friday night open mic and now guys on the ground are back on Saturday.

[Jimmy]

I gotta, I gotta figure out where to put voluntold somewhere.

[Mike]

Yeah, we'll find a good slot, man. We're playing around with slots. Obviously everything is going live. If you guys have not, I've said it a couple times, is that unless you're a huge known person, like Billy Corgan from the Smashing Pumpkins just recently like two months ago started a podcast. He's fucking Billy Corgan. He can wait to have guests on and drop when he wants. Sean Ryan can drop when he wants. Joe Rogan drops like three times a week. But he's Joe Rogan. So unless you're somebody of that caliber, the pre recorded days and you have all these people coordinating all this stuff for you and you just sit down. But at the end of the day, live is where 98 of what everything's going to.

[Tyler]

It allows interaction.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's true too.

[Tyler]

I mean, that there's. How many times you watch a podcast and now with the ability to call in, especially when you start having guests and you get in your. They want to talk, you want to talk to guests or you want to get a question in the guests. And we're going to be able to do that for you.

[Mike]

What's the number?

[Tyler]

772.

[Mike]

I'm gonna 772-217-217-5453.

[Tyler]

And it's already rolling. I got suggestions coming in. We appreciate it. We'll look in all these texts next. Somebody.

[Jimmy]

How.

[Tyler]

How delayed is this?

[Mike]

Like three seconds?

[Tyler]

Yeah, because somebody said there's gonna be a disaster taking live calls. And I imagine if somebody starts yelling.

[Mike]

Hey, it'll be good though. That'll be. That'll be good for. I mean, just please, for the love of God, don't say the N word. Yeah, we can work around anything of that.

[Jimmy]

But I mean, yeah, I mean, we're gonna. I mean, at some point we're gonna have to start screening people and you know, just kind of making sure that, like, hey, we got.

[Tyler]

I mean.

[Jimmy]

But even. Even live shows, it's a sketch.

[Tyler]

It's a scheduling nightmare. And it's, you know, like I said to Tyler to do it when he was working. I don't know how he does it. And even now that he's not, it gets tough. Now that I've taken on Monday and Thursday for Anti Hero, I still have to have a guest for Wednesday at noon that I don't have yet. And then it's. And it's like, do I switch that to more of a local show? The recorded show? Is it worth keeping? And then it's like the live Wednesday night show I'm doing. The Hot Topic has been very popular with Jordan Ennis from formerly a Georgia State Patrol.

[Mike]

See your co host for that.

[Tyler]

He's pretty much. Unless he's out.

[Jimmy]

He.

[Tyler]

He draws a. He's very. I mean, he's a good dude. He's just a good dude.

[Jimmy]

I'd really like to see Peach more. I really want to see.

[Mike]

He's the guys on ground.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he's gonna be on. Yeah, he's Tuesdays and two night Saturdays. They're used permanent Tuesdays.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So it is. It's hard. It's hard to manage. It sounds silly, but what we're gonna.

[Mike]

Do is also so on YouTube. Right. Because you know, you guys always had the Pre recorded Monday episodes in the videos section, right. It says you go to antihero, YouTube go to videos and it's there. And the squad casts were always in the live section. So you go to a little live column and then it's all. Now everything is going to be in the live. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to clip a best of Every Monday, a 20, 25 minute video that just has the best talking points that we hit. And if you didn't get a chance to see the live and you don't really want to watch, you know, a two hour long thing, you can go and just watch the best of so that it will still have something to offer that's pre. It's not pre recorded, but it's. It's not live.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And by the way, I mean like, if you're a guy like me, my, my team is me and my wife and my wife is way more savvy with some of this technological social media stuff. And so like she does a lot of heavy lifting. I mean, look at you. I. I know she's got to. Yeah.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Oh, God damn.

[Jimmy]

That was harsh. That was hard.

[Mike]

I'm just kidding.

[Jimmy]

I'm waiting for, I'm waiting for the text to come in on that one.

[Mike]

Dude, you can't see my belly. That's on purpose.

[Jimmy]

I know.

[Mike]

That's why she be want to death.

[Jimmy]

You ain't lying. Dude.

[Mike]

I. We do the counterculture episodes out in the other studio and those couches are the most unforgiving couches ever. I mean, you have to sit with your belly like sucked in. My wife came and recorded her first ever, like debut on a podcast, I think, and she looked at the house, she's like happy. I'm not sitting here like, are you kidding me? You sink into it like, that's what's happening here.

[Jimmy]

It looks like I got love handles that go out there.

[Tyler]

That's why I did a thousand calories yesterday on the arc trainer, dude.

[Jimmy]

I mean, like, bro, I tell you what, man. Like, so just so like the burn pit lung is real and I've, I've been to the VA like seven times to the ER because like, I can't freaking.

[Mike]

Do you know that you only have 10 years from your deployment to or from when you get out of the army to claim anything from the burn pit? Yeah. Now it's. It's like, it's fightable, it's appealable. But at face value, if you want to claim like cyanitis or scientitis or whatever the it is where your sinuses are all up. Because my wife. I'll make weird noises and my wife will be like. Like, what the hell was that?

[Tyler]

All right, let's go. Go. No, no, get it. Get that Super Chat.

[Mike]

Hold on. I will.

[Tyler]

Before I get it, I'm.

[Mike]

You're gonna get it.

[Tyler]

No, I'm not gonna get it.

[Mike]

But he paid $20.

[Tyler]

And you got people saying he got scammed.

[Mike]

No, saying he got scammed.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

All right, here's the thing is I'm a nice guy. You paid 20 bucks. If this was anything under 20, I would have told you. I gotta be nice.

[Tyler]

Re. Watch the other episode.

[Mike]

God, man, are you. I mean, if. Do you not. You're just donating 20 bucks and you don't even want to see if this has been answered before?

[Tyler]

Well, I mean, I wouldn't get mad at him. If he's watching for the first time. You're gonna have to answer.

[Jimmy]

That's fair.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

It's only because we didn't get scammed, though. Nobody's scamming anybody.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're new here if you think we're scamming. I don't. We don't just. We're not at dire Super Chat. We gotta stop what we're doing. We always get to the Super Chats. We actually tried at the beginning of the episode. We said, hey, make sure you keep. If you want a Super Chat, but you only want to do it once a week, save it for Thursday. That's for the boys. That's where we engage the most. This is more discussion based, topics based news base, you know, and if you do want to Super Chat something, just keep it super low in case we don't get to it. That there. That disclaimer right there means, I'm not trying to scam you. I'm telling you, there's a chance we won't get to it. So you only wasted two bucks rather than 20. So don't say I'm scamming people, because I said that already. I'm starting to get mad.

[Tyler]

All right, do it.

[Mike]

But. So, Tyler, what really happened? You and Brent had a great rapport. Fans love the perspective from both SF and Leo. And yeah, that. That's a great thing. People loved Motley Crue in 1989, but you go to 1992, Motley Crew, it's a totally different sound, and you know it. That's a bad Halen. Van Halen. You listen to Van Halen? ACDC had two.

[Jimmy]

One died, but Metallica Had a guy, Cliff died.

[Mike]

I mean, yeah, they had, they had all their basis drama. The show goes on and, and we are purposely formatting it a different way to not take away from the, the show that me and Brent Tucker had. It was amazing. We did have a great rapport. The lights cut on, man. We worked well together. The, the guests love being on the show. It was just an all around great show. We, we, we had hate. Me and Brent had haters at first. You know, anytime there's something new, people are going to be super negative all the time. And eventually you trim the fat because most likely they're fat people anyways. And then you have now the new culture that you built and that's what's going on. So that's what really happened. Change pre, like forecasted change that you guys aren't you guys. When a business is planning on doing something and they don't know how they're going to do it or when they're going to do it, they're not obligated to tell you this is the shift we're going to do. They're eventually going to tell you when they want to fucking tell you. So no one's obligated to tell you as soon as something might change.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And if you're listening to pimply faced former Navy guys who make their living on TMZ for the Brett vote, the bro vets, then yeah, you're gonna look for your drama. So that's all I'm gonna say about that.

[Mike]

Yeah. And you know, again, you know, like I said, we. If I've said this before, but I'm gonna say it again. Most of the people that are upset, that just can't get over it are somebody that never served in a capacity, in a, a day in their life, they've never done it. Most people, there might be some people out there that are conventional army and are like conventional guys. I suck too. I hate myself and I hate my brethren. I only want to see Special Forces stuff. They might exist. There might be cops out there. Hey, I was never in the military and I don't want to hear cop stuff. I don't want to care about what's going on in the culture. So I only want to see SF stuff. Right. Those people are going to exist. But most of them are overweight, chubby dudes with shitty beards that want to sit there and say, where's Brent Tucker? I want Brent Tucker. I'm a beta male and it's nothing against Brent Tucker. Let's make that Very clear. But when you beta and cuck to another man and you can't get your information or anything, and whatever that man says is gold to you, you are a beta male. So don't be a beta male. And I'm not saying this guy asking a question is a beta male. Let's. Let's make that very clear. But the people that. The fat that we are, the literal fat people that we are trimming off, that's. That's who that is. You guys gotta stop me. I'm gonna start.

[Tyler]

Yeah, no, and I think it stays there until it does it. Because if things go away that it needs to go, I will say what I will say. I will go. You'll see. You'll. You'll see, Cottville, because I'm trying to be very professional in this and let this go the way it's been going. But there's always another route.

[Mike]

Yeah, there are always.

[Tyler]

There's always another route. And I have no problem traveling that route.

[Mike]

Nobody wants to go.

[Tyler]

I want everything to be just like it is.

[Mike]

Everybody make that clear. Everybody's kosher.

[Tyler]

We'll see.

[Mike]

I just yelled at the entire group again. See, this is what you do to me, guys.

[Tyler]

We'll see.

[Mike]

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Oh, I got one open. You're done.

[Mike]

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[Mike]

So, yeah, vengeance is putting out all kinds of good stuff. Jason's been on the show. I don't remember what number it was. He's the owner. He's a prior army vet. It's Vengeance started out with care for dogs and he's a huge dog lover. All mine. Everything was designed for increasing your dog's life because everything, everybody knows the dog food that you buy at the store typically is awful. For them it was all supplements. And then people started going, that's awesome. Can you do that for me? So they find they essentially did the same thing, different ingredients, and made it for humans too. They have. You know, apparently when you get tattoos, the tattoo, the ink's all bad for you. And they, they, yeah, me too. But yeah, Vengeance, great, great company, great group of guys. And they're going and doing great things. All right, Jamie.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so I. Okay, so lone wolf ty160. So he commented under the video, this is what he said and I'll read it to you.

[Mike]

I do your video forever.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah. So. So I wasn't gonna comment on this antihero podcast. I had four people in my unit crash in a helicopter this week and die who were special operations soldiers. But for this guy, meaning me to say special operations only exists for 11 Bravo Marine infantry is fucked up. So should the folks in my unit not get the same respect being special operations because they aren't Marine infantry or 11 Bravo here's my first thing. Of course not, dude. People die in training all the time and it's a freaking travesty. I had people roll over at ntc. They didn't die in combat and it freaking sucked. It gutted everybody. And dude, our hearts go out too. I can speak for everybody in this room. Our hearts go out to every single one of those soldiers, families who lost their loved one just training. They didn't even go to the war. And it sucks. It's even harder sometimes to deal with losing your buddies in training than it is in actual combat. Yes, it is freaking terrible. And I'm dude, if there's any way we can help them, I guarantee you we will do it. That said, special operations forces have had plenty of their time in the sun. So if you want to get on there and go, oh, what about special operations? What about being a freaky quiet professional, bro? How about that? How about the 20 year global war on terror which looks like to everybody out there was fought by one or two groups of people. Go to the infantry museum at Fort Benning, Georgia and go look at those names and tell me how many of them were special operations troops. It's not that many. The vast majority were 88 mics and medics and scouts and grunts and field artillery guys and every other thing under the sun. So no, we're not saying anything about that. What we are saying is you had your time in the sun. Go back to being a quiet professional and trained for the next war and let the guys who did some really hard stuff and never got a moment to say anything about it, let them talk. Sorry, I'm done.

[Mike]

Damn.

[Tyler]

One super chat went away. The orange one. Can you go back to them or they're gone?

[Mike]

Which? The orange one. Yeah, I can see.

[Tyler]

Oh, that. There we go. No, the yellow one.

[Mike]

Oh, the yellow one.

[Tyler]

Get that one.

[Mike]

Well, I. Somebody people Poopy peep Poopy Johnson said, I did seven years as a sergeant. Thanks Poopy. Kenneth. Gentlemen, have a blessed week. Let these negative Nancy fall. Nancy's fall off. The true anti hero members of the community will support you guys either way. I am a civilian but grew up in the military Leo family, that's what exactly that's. I mean that's. It's a culture. It's the same type of people. I really appreciate your comment, Kenneth. That's really cool of you. Eagle 1. The change will be weird but I still support you guys. Looking forward to seeing what comes next. Would love to see more average infantry stories. And I Think the world is. I. I'm not trying to brag, but I am kind of good at this. And I can tell you right now, a month ago, two months ago, maybe even three months ago, I was like, the bro vet drama is on the decline. Everybody, when you talk, you just do an average poll. Talk to 10 people and ask them, do they like it? If seven or eight of them are like, dude, I'm so done. That's a good poll. Right? So seven out of seven or eight people out of 10 has said, I'm so done with the soft drummer, yet it's still all over the Internet. So they haven't been really vocal about it, but you're picking their brain. That's what people that own businesses do.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And it's kind of like any other thing in life. You have people that. All they want is drama. Some people all want to hear the good stories. Some people want to hear the bad stories. And somewhere in the middle are people that are just like, hey, I like the show. I like to be informed. And that's kind of what we're going towards, is just being generally informed about everything.

[Mike]

Our culture, our industry. If there is fucking drama that we feel maybe need to touch on one time, we'll let you know. I mean, this is entertainment, but, you know, other than that, do we. Do we have any good people wanting to call in?

[Tyler]

We're getting comments and suggestions on content, but nobody wants to.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Nobody yet.

[Mike]

It's okay. It's okay. The numbers pinned.

[Jimmy]

Some people don't want to come on.

[Tyler]

But we're getting good feedback.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I haven't gotten a dick pic yet, dude.

[Jimmy]

Hey, are we gonna do a pool? Are we gonna have to do, like, an internal pool and just say, who won at the end?

[Tyler]

So far, so good.

[Jimmy]

So far, so good. All right, so what else do we got going on? Let's see. I'm gonna go back to my Rolodex over here. Okay, here's what. Another one. Since this is, you know, information and entertainment, hey, first responders and you guys need to go to your agencies and say, hey, you know, I. And you guys can correct me on this, but you guys train for. For active shooter, right?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

When you train. When you train for an active shooter, how many active shooters are there?

[Mike]

We typically train for one.

[Jimmy]

Okay, right. So. So what if somebody knew your. Your ttps and decided to overwhelm you with more than one active shooter or multiple active shooters in multiple locations? How would your agencies respond?

[Mike]

That's a good question, because I Don't think that's happened since Columbine. Right?

[Jimmy]

No, but here's the deal. The threat analysis that's coming out for the, the terrorists, and we'll use that term broadly, says that what they want to do is two things. Number one, they want to overwhelm your ability to react, and number two, they want to stop your ability to get to the location. So if you're a medical first responder and you have.

[Mike]

They're gonna put IDs out or I.

[Jimmy]

Or just, I mean, you.

[Tyler]

I can't believe that hasn't happened yet.

[Jimmy]

It's. It's. So, I mean, if you're. And if you're an. In the agency and you're not thinking about, like, if you're doing the same training over and over and over again, like, this is how we're going to deal with active shooter, and you're not going like, hey, can we have a conversation about what the worst case scenario might be and train for that and figure out what our bandwidth is as a, our head shed, as the guys on the ground, like, who's gonna do what and how. I. I think you're kind of missing the boat, but I was never a police officer, so.

[Mike]

No, you're right. I mean it, because you, when you. I'll let Mike take it from here. He had more time with SWAT than anybody here. But they're starting to, to train patrol a lot on active shooter. The problem is, is that you only, you only, you can only train so much, so they kind of dial it into the active shooter. That's going to take victims and not confront you, because that's just what it typically is. It's a coward that's wanting to harm the sheep as much as possible. He's not going to face off against the sheepdog or the wolf. He's gonna kill himself or run or something. So the calculated something like that is just the chances of it happening, in my opinion, are a lot smaller. So they're just not gonna utilize resources unless it's a good SWAT team.

[Tyler]

Maybe, Maybe. But I got a couple angles on this one. One, we have that great thing called accreditation.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And accreditation says you have to train active shooter. Right. You have to.

[Mike]

Right.

[Tyler]

So what do I do? I train, maybe the school resource guys. A couple guys. Nobody else gets it. Nobody else gets it. They just skip around. But when accreditation comes and says, hey, I need to, I need to see who's been training the agency provides the paperwork and goes, look, these five guys took it like last year. That's one thing we're not training enough. The other thing is I went to NTR active shooter instructor class. Unfortunately I got railroaded before I ever got to teach one of the classes at the agency and never taught it. I don't think there's another instructor at my agency currently that went through that program that was probably the best one I'd been to which covered that, covered secondary people, covered that mass response. From the response to getting people out, all that stuff. The problem is the answer is no, we're not training it enough. And the problem is with this tick tock generation and these generation of cops, nobody's taking anything serious anyway you can. You, I'll give you the best example is felony traffic stops. I want you to go on, watch your reels, watch your pits, watch all your call and watch the guys run up to the car, watch the guys make these terrible decisions and leave cover. You can't. That is way more common. There's, there's 10, 12 those a day. Sometimes in an agency they can't even get that one right, which is just staying undercover during a felony stop. Now you're talking about a catastrophic mass shooting incident where it's just, it's, it's.

[Mike]

Going to be mass because you nailed it. What the response, what it, what Any, any type of terrorists, they're going to secondary the response, right? So if you, if they hit a soft target, whether it be a school library, you know, whatever it is, right. And they have all the main routes covered with secondary ied, secondary things and they just start popping off a coordinated attack. It is going to everyone up because law enforcement and emergency services have trained to hit that singular event that's going on right now. You throw an IED and take out an ambulance and up a main road and now, now we're responding. It's human nature. I'm not saying just because they've never been trained for that. So do we never train? Hey, the next ambulance bypasses because this is a second like we would.

[Tyler]

Look what happened. Look what happened in Pennsylvania. You had one guy wanted for stalking. That was a warrant they went to serve on. One guy.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They knew where he was. He killed three cops and injured two more. Now imagine you have an unknown shooter amongst 3,000 students and there's multiple that you don't know about. And now you're responding and all these guys, but you put a sniper out, dude, the first 20 guys are gonna be dead before they even know that snipers there.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

The other thing too that I would suggest then and again, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, but you know, when you're in the military, your staff will normally do war games, right? They'll practice making radio calls, moving people around an imaginary battle space and, and test the communications, test the, the signals, like test the, the silos of, of operational control. And that doesn't require you to move officers out of the field. You could just go, hey, you five guys.

[Mike]

Problem is, I just is. The problem is, is that it's, it's. The field is real life, right? So a training exercise has like of that caliber that needs to happen. You can't just go to a designated woodland area or a built urban city. You have to train in the community that you. And it's possible and they do do it. I'm not saying they don't do it or they can't. It's just now when you go, hey, city council, mayor, we need to use this block for a real life training event. And here's the plan and the op order and they go, okay, well now they want to be in it. Oh shit. Now the governor is going to come watch. Now it becomes a fucking dog and pony show. And I've been part of these. It takes away from the training because now everybody is worried that the rank above them is going to be mad at something.

[Jimmy]

So what I'm suggesting. And then it's almost time to call.

[Tyler]

One call before that and then we'll call them out.

[Jimmy]

All right, so I'll leave you with this and we can, we can have people comment about it, we can talk about it later. All you need is seven radios, a map, a bunch of magnets and, and an observer controller creating chaos to figure out where the hard points are in your communication capability.

[Mike]

Well, and you, you actually just nailed it, Mike. You said a sniper would. Regardless if there was secondary explosions or whatever, a sniper would up everyone's plans because no one. I remember I watched a video once and there was a cop went down inside and I was, it was a body worn camera of responding cops. He went down inside the apartment upstairs and everybody was downstairs going, are we gonna get him out? How are we gonna get him out? And they weren't going because the scene they were. And I don't know, but like so you see a bunch of cops go down, a sniper fire. Now the order is gonna come out. Holt, stop. Don't go get them. Now we can't even go past them to get to the primary, the target where innocent people are being slaughtered because everything's got A hold for calls to be made. And at that point, it's going to be decisions made on the ground by. You have a gun now. Yep. That's your buddy. So you're gonna go cover me while I move. I love. I love you, bud, but me and you took an oath, and that school comes first.

[Tyler]

It is.

[Jimmy]

I mean, well, it's. I mean, dude, I mean, when you think about. When you think about, like, do. I mean, how many times. How many times did you train Battle drill one Alpha, right?

[Mike]

Wait, wait, so by. You think that I.

[Tyler]

You're right. You're right, dude. But we can't get to train with their vest on to know how to fire the rifle or how the gun is even gonna fire when they take the barrel flag. I got cops with their magazines in.

[Jimmy]

Backwards, constantly, or upside down.

[Tyler]

So you're just. So when you get into this topic, it is just so broad of all the problems. Like, I have picture after picture after picture on the copylogy story of cops that don't even have their magazines in right. Not including the ones that don't wear their vest. Now, you're looking at this dude whose magazines are in backwards. He hasn't eaten anything but a cheeseburger.

[Jimmy]

Doesn'T have his iron sights up.

[Tyler]

His iron sights aren't up. Or he's got the. And you're looking at him. Yeah, he's got the flag. FHP's got the barrel flag.

[Mike]

That poor guy, man.

[Tyler]

So you're looking at him and you're. You're looking at that guy going, all right, bud, me in your head, you're gonna go, wait, what the. Did I just say, like, me and him? Yeah, like, we're going and ye. You have to go. I'd rather go by myself some of those times. And I'm sure a lot of cops feel that way. But this problem with training and response to these things are so broad, and there's such a problem. It's just a giant.

[Mike]

It's just.

[Tyler]

It's a mass problem. Yes. Eventually some kids are going to get together and they're going to put together the plan, and it's not going to be, oh, goodness, 12 kids died, and one. It's going to be 40, 50, 60 people are dead. That one's coming. And that's due to lack of training, lack of taking it serious. You're hanging an accreditation paperwork on the wall saying you're doing the training and you're not really doing it, and nobody cares to do it. We want to get ready with me on video we want to post a cool picture of our car and our gun and block our face out and do all these cool things. Nobody wants to do the work, and that's what's gonna happen. And maybe when that massive catastrophe happens, maybe those agencies will rip those bogus certificates off the wall, take the little initials out of their email signature and go, hey, it's time to start fucking getting serious again about law enforcement and boots on the ground and how to do the job, not pretend we're doing the job. Yeah, maybe, maybe. But that's what's gonna happen.

[Jimmy]

All right, we got it.

[Tyler]

I got one call. Yeah, I got.

[Mike]

We still got 30 minutes, guys.

[Tyler]

I know. I got a call to get 11 Bravo. Bravo at a 20 year retired 11 Bravo from Fort Bragg to say he's got a funny story. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes.

[Mike]

Better be funny.

[Tyler]

All right. The heat's on, man. You better be funny.

[Clint Ludwig]

Hey, what's going on? What's going on, bud?

[Tyler]

What's going on?

[Clint Ludwig]

Can you hear me?

[Tyler]

We got you. You're live. Oh, hey.

[Mike]

Hey.

[Clint Ludwig]

This is I. I go by Luda. My last name's Ludwig, but everybody calls me Luda in the army. Me, I'm a retired 20 year 11 Bravo from the 82nd and 3rd ID.

[Mike]

What? What? Hey, what. What brigade?

[Tyler]

What Brigade?

[Clint Ludwig]

In the 82nd, the only one that matters.

[Mike]

First brigade, third brigade.

[Tyler]

Tyler was third brigade. You're on, man.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, I, I did.

[Clint Ludwig]

I was actually first and second. I don't like to talk about those days, but I never did third. But here's my story.

[Tyler]

So.

[Clint Ludwig]

When I, I left 82nd and I went to. I'd never been to Fort Stewart, and I ended up getting sent the third id and I showed up and they made me weapon squad leader for the only light unit that they have on Fort Stewart. There's a light brigade on for store most people don't know about. So I was a weapon squad leader. We had a machine gun range one night. It was, you know, maybe a week, three or four days. And we're at the machine gun range, range. And what, what people don't know is it gets cold as in Georgia.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it does.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Anybody who's been to OSUT knows that.

[Clint Ludwig]

So, so we're out there, we're freezing. We're on the machine gun range and it starts lightning, it starts lightning and raining on us. And they, they said, well, because of the lightning, we're going to shut down the range and we're going to send everybody back early. Everybody was pumped.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Pumped.

[Clint Ludwig]

Like everybody was pumped. So I had these two specialists, both my gunners, both my machine gunners. They were complete opposites in real life. One was a white guy and one was a brother. These dudes would definitely not be friends.

[Mike]

In the real world. Right.

[Tyler]

The army makes everybody like each other.

[Clint Ludwig]

These two dudes were the closest bros I think I ever seen in 20 years. Years. I mean, they would say the most inappropriate things to each other and it was just hilarious. It was, it was true racial equality.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Clint Ludwig]

Like, it was just going back and forth. So funny. So anyways, we're on. We're the. The LMTVs pull up to drive us out of the the from the range and everybody's pumped and we're loading Everybody on the LMTVs. And then it's my squad, another LMTV pulls up as the last one. Of course, that one doesn't have a cover on it. So we all climb in the back and it's basically sleeping on us. And everybody's in the back of the LMTV and we're driving through the. The sand trails and we get lost. And I'm just looking at all my dudes and I can tell they're miserable, they're hating it, but they're still in a good mood because they're going back early. So the one specialist is pitch black. You can't even see. We're just sitting at an intersection in the. The middle of the woods, and the one specialist is talking to me. He's like, hey, Sergeant, I'm so glad we're going back early. He said, my daughter's got a doctor's appointment. And I'm, I'm. I'm excited. I'm happy that I'll be able to go to it. I said, oh, man, I hear you.

[Jimmy]

What's.

[Clint Ludwig]

What's wrong with her? He says, well, we don't really know 100%. She's. She's only 2 years old, cold, but for some. Some weird reason, she keeps choking herself.

[Jimmy]

Oh, God.

[Clint Ludwig]

The machine gunner says, you know what that means? And everybody turns and looks into blackness.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

He says.

[Clint Ludwig]

He says, what does that mean? He says, she's gonna like to get choked when she grows up. I'm sitting there and I'm like, these dudes are getting ready to go to blows or. This is the funniest thing I've ever heard. It was dead silent for like 30 seconds. And then you just heard everybody. I mean, I really thought. I was like, they're gonna fight to the dead.

[Tyler]

Yeah, well, man, we appreciate you calling in, dude.

[Jimmy]

Calling again.

[Mike]

Thank you.

[Tyler]

Thank you so much, man.

[Jimmy]

All right, I, I, I texted you the number so we can call the, the light colonel from his hacienda.

[Mike]

All right.

[Jimmy]

In Colorado Springs.

[Mike]

There was somebody that the, the second guy that did $20 said, FYI, Jimmy, I wasn't listening to any pimply face Navy Seal. I was on night shift and missed the live because it was taken down. It is on Spotify, Apple podcasts, wherever you listen. It's on all audio platforms.

[Jimmy]

Platforms.

[Mike]

And he says, again, Tyler, thanks for the answer. Beta mail comment was harsh. I said it wasn't at you, dude. I, it is. What you said sparked my rant, my soliloquy, if you will.

[Tyler]

Oh, boy.

[Jimmy]

And, and I didn't say Navy Seal. I said 15 year Navy guy who never picked up a gun.

[Mike]

Is that who he is?

[Jimmy]

No, I'm talking about generally, yes. That was a generality. Not saying anything bad about anybody in.

[Mike]

The teams or, or Stecken, whatever your name is. We weren't, we weren't talking about you. All right, so you can introduce the, the next A.D. we're gonna call.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. So we're getting ready to call my, actually my dad. So if you guys think I'm kind of smart, this guy's way more dynamic than me, but, man, is he a really compelling dude. So he retired as a lieutenant colonel. He did time with the conventional forces. He did time with the white soft guys. He did time with the black soft guys. And now he coaches high school basketball and lives at his hacienda in Colorado Springs, Colorado, living off that sweet, sweet officer retirement.

[Tyler]

You can call him.

[Jimmy]

Oh, you want me? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

My arms get tired.

[Jimmy]

You know, just. You guys talk crap about my Android.

[Mike]

We're gonna try and. Well, can your Android at least make a call?

[Jimmy]

Yes, it can make a call.

[Mike]

Can't do anything else. We're gonna try. We'll eventually be able to route these calls through the software. We'll be able to bring people on remotely. That's gonna be huge for this show. You know, you guys will be able to call and answer any questions that you know or ask any questions you want of the guest.

[Tyler]

I got a song request too.

[Jimmy]

All right, are you guys ready?

[Mike]

I don't know if we're gonna do songs on Mondays. No, no, that's a party vibe.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. You guys ready? All right, let's, let's, let's, let's call the old man here, which will probably kill me for call it's calling that.

[Tyler]

You'Re the fucking boss.

[Mike]

Hi, dad.

[Jimmy]

Hey, dad.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

You're on. Yeah, hey, I got the show on, so I'm actually listening and watching the chat, so. Good stuff. I'm enjoying it.

[Jimmy]

We are, too.

[Mike]

Yeah, this is a good time.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah. I've seen enough problems on tv, so I muted y' all broadcast. I trust you here.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, we're hearing you.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah. Yeah. So what's going on? I'm ready to talk about whatever you want.

[Jimmy]

So let's.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

I heard the guy talk. Being in the unit, I already had shit rolled around in my head of things that were funny, but I know we were probably gonna talk sports stuff, so I'm good. And whatever.

[Jimmy]

What do you want to hear? Do you want to hear about the. The stuff that's on his mind currently, or do you want to talk Nil? Hit whatever you want, dad. It's your show. We just live in it.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

No, man, you guys, you know, you said you wanted to talk about college and Nil, but.

[Mike]

Yeah, let's do that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, let's do Nil, man. Let's do Nil.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah, let's do Nil. Okay, what's your question? Or what do you think about it? And then I'll.

[Mike]

I'll give you what is Nil?

[Jimmy]

You know, what is nil? These guys don't know.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

You know, here's the thing. Nil is basically what is totally major college football and basketball. That's what Nil is. I don't even. Image and likeness. Basically a lot of money that guys get now to play college sports. Completely out of control. It's a train running down the track with no brakes, downhill. So it's just. It's completely fucked up the entire enterprise. And we can talk about the. Each of the why that is because there's a lot of reasons. Like, everything seemed like, oh, it's because of this. Well, now there's a lot of reasons, but it has categorically.

[Jimmy]

So get. You know, be brief and be bright. What do you got, man? What do you think is really it up, dad?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah. Okay, so here for the guys and for you. Of all the anti gifts I've got, one of them is I am often not very 50. So at any point in time somebody have a cup of shots the up and all.

[Mike]

How far away?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we're good with that.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah, Yeah, I. I can only hear you. I can't hear. Guys.

[Mike]

We'll talk through you.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah, I muted the broadcast, so maybe I need to.

[Mike]

It would be on a delay, so.

[Jimmy]

It would be, it would be on a delay. We're gonna get this figured out right now. We're low tech.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Just, just listen to me.

[Tyler]

Dad's blowing it.

[Jimmy]

Dad's blowing it.

[Tyler]

Hey, remember the. What show is that? The Gong Show. We gotta get the gong. You get gonged, you're off the air, man.

[Jimmy]

All right, he's got it down.

[Tyler]

We need a gong in the chat.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You gotta turn his tv, dad.

[Jimmy]

You gotta turn it down.

[Tyler]

Oh, no. Oh, Dad's getting gonged. Dad's getting the gavel.

[Jimmy]

All right, dad, turn TV down. Yeah, he's still here.

[Mike]

Yeah, you gotta turn the tv.

[Jimmy]

I jump telling him, man.

[Tyler]

All right, dad.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Mike]

All right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. See, this is why I wanted you to do this. Now I'm in the hot seat.

[Tyler]

You have to cut your dad off, man. You gotta, you gotta make a command decision, man.

[Jimmy]

I know.

[Mike]

We can hear it.

[Jimmy]

We should hear it. This is great.

[Mike]

All right, so he turned off the broadcast.

[Jimmy]

Did you turn it off?

[Tyler]

No. No.

[Jimmy]

All right, I'm gonna have to call it back.

[Tyler]

Dad, I'm gonna call you back.

[Jimmy]

All right, we can. All we can hear is. Is us talking in the background.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

I'm hearing you guys big time.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Okay. Okay. Turn us down. Just listen to me. Send it with the nil. What do you think is so bad about it?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Well, okay, I'll try to pull it down. It's. It's so many things. I don't really care about people getting money, but bottom line is these guys have all become vagabonds on one year contracts that they can't even control. And so you basically, where it used to be, you had to sit out a year if transferred, which that was a little draconian. I actually have an idea about how you can kind of split the air on that pretty good. But the bottom line is you got guys just every. And you had two transfer portal windows. They did make a rule recently that now you can't do it in spring. Now it's just going to be in January, start next year. Football, we're talking about major college football right now. But people are just flying with the money. They have no control measures on it. Is completely lost any kind of, you know, every, every team is getting essentially one year contract. There's no more walk ons. You're not going to have Rudy anymore because you can't walk on no cool stories like that. You're. You're in football, you can only have 105 players. So, you know, you didn't have your Rosters where you had extra guys. We could do walk ons. So. And oh, by the way, they are allegedly college students. Have you heard of anybody being declared academically ineligible lately? No. Hell no. You don't hear a word about that because nobody cares about it anymore. It's like everybody's a professional. You got freaking guys hanging around for like their six year college football. You know, it's, it's just, it's totally.

[Mike]

What is this doing?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

And the one, I guess anything that's kind of cool about it, it's that the, every year I think is going to be kind of a wild card year. And that, you know, usually you come in, they make all these top 25 predictions and then it evolves as season goes on. But right now, you know, you don't really know who's good. I mean right now if you take Clemson, a team that's been a perennial powerhouse the last few years, they suck this year. How is, how is this like Oklahoma State then? I'll pause. I mean I've always liked Oklahoma State. I like Mike Gundy, had a cool as hell mullet. You know, you don't do the mullet thing anymore. But they were always a solid team. They were getting a little beat out of them. I hate seeing it. It's totally out of control. And then there's other stuff too. I will pause.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so the, the question that Tyler had was what is this doing to the pros?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Well, that's a good question. I don't know that I'm sure the answer. Be honest with you. All the things that feel like I got a good analog, I'm not really sure. I mean guys are still going to go play D1. They're still going to play. But you know, you kind of had a body of work with a guy that would play two or three seasons before and on the same team. And you know, now you get guys that are basically, you can really look at a guy who plays one year for this school and plays another for this year and then three years he plays for three teams. And I think if you look at the draft this past season, I mean just take for example Shador Sanders. I mean, oh, Shador Sanders. The guy ended up drafted in the fifth round. He was on like day three. Everybody's losing their mind about where's Shador? And these guys coming out. I mean, except for a few guys that you really feel sure of and that's usually not quarterbacks because you never know about those guys. They're the most intriguing. You really I'm not sure about that one right now.

[Jimmy]

What about the other? One of the questions in the chat was, what does this do into the. The boosters?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Well, you know, I don't know about you, but I think people start to kind of embrace players as they invest in the school, in the program. You had a guy on one school, and now I can't remember which one it is. But the kid made a point to come out and go, I'm not leaving. I'm staying here, even though I'm getting, you know, he's essentially getting less. And I owe money. He said, I'm invested in the program. And everybody thought that was shit hot. So I think boosters, you know, at the end of the day, boosters want to win. They want to win. They don't care about anything other than their team being shit hot at the end of the season. So I suspect in a lot of ways it's become even more out of control with boosters because there used to be a little bit of control measures on that, but I'm speculating on that. I'm not positive, but I suspect if anything that's sped up, not slowing down.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, I mean, it sounds like this. This nil stuff that. I mean, because it's all Nate the nil for those that are listening and don't really watch football, is name, image and likeness. Right.

[Mike]

So that's not a real thing.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. So they get paid now.

[Mike]

They get paid for not just with cars or like buying your mom a new apartment.

[Jimmy]

But yeah, so they get. They get paid with, like, real money.

[Mike]

Now, like sponsors or.

[Jimmy]

Sponsors. Is that what. Is that what it is? It's not just like we bought. We bought a Corvette that you drive and your mom has a new apartment. Magically.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Well, you used to be. I mean, if you remember back, one of the biggest stories was Reggie Bush when he played for usa, they won the national championship and you know, everybody, they ended up making. Vacate the championship. It's Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy. And part of the reason why they did it was because all this money that they found out he got after the fact, it was totally stupid. Vacating up a national championship in Heisman years after the fact. I mean, that's how stupid the NCAA is. That's a completely different discussion for another day. How colossally jacked up the ncaa. They are a clown car. There's no other way to put it. They are complete clown show. They ought to be, actually. They ought to just go defunct because they serve no real NCAA served. But at the end of the day, if you think about like Reggie Bush's mom, the reason why one of the reason they did that, because Reggie mom, Reggie Bush's mom, who they came from poverty, they got her a house. And that suddenly was like a big deal. Richie Bush's mom got a house. Well, guess what? Now that shit's commonplace. I mean, everybody's got. There's a guy at one school, I'll just leave the name off of it that the guy's running around here. I don't know if he's got a Lamborghini, but they just, basically, he's driving around campus looking like Joe Cool, driving this ridiculously expensive vehicle that they overtly give him. I mean, it used to be at least tried to fly below the radar. Now it's just in your face. The quarterback of a D1 team is driving around and you know, a Corvette and there's no question about it, which. Okay, that's, that's awesome. Right? So that's, that's kind of example.

[Jimmy]

Okay. All right, well. Well, let's see if we got any more chats. So one of the comments was, but, but, but, Dad, I hear you say the NIL has made it a whole more dramatic environment. And I mean, USF did just beat two ranked teams. Not that we're bragging or anything. I did go to that school.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Well, I will say that, you know, like I said a little while ago, it's made it interesting because I don't think anybody has a good handle on who's really good and who really sucks.

[Mike]

Real quick, Raja Jackson is one of.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

The things that at least kind of makes it Manning. But if you think in terms of hockey plus minuses. Pluses like that definitely are outweighed by minuses because it's just, it's garbage. I mean, it's only garbage. I'm not saying guys shouldn't get paid. I'm not really a fan of it. But it used to be the thinking in college football was, hey, you're getting a free education. You're going to college for free. Ruined what is provided. Now, if you don't want to take advantage of that, get a two year degree in basket weaving. That's your call. But I think that it is underplayed. But now, again, nobody cares about the education aspect of it. I don't really mind that guys get paid. It's the sin of the times. This is where we are. But at the end of the day, just having guys. I'll tell you something, that's really ironic. So like I said, it used to be a player with a transfer, they had to sit out a year. Everybody knew it. There was no way around it. And now ironically, while everybody can fly around like, you know, just free agents on a one year contract, I was dead here in Colorado, a high school sports player. If you transfer schools, you have to sit out a year. Now how ironic is that? You're making high school kids sit out a year if they transfer, but college guys can just free flow. I mean it's an incredible irony. Never kept up with a transfer one year have spit out.

[Jimmy]

So we, we got a question about Arch Manning. Who was the other one.

[Mike]

Now we'll, we'll address. I don't. I thought it was had to do with that, but it doesn't.

[Jimmy]

Oh, Arch Manning is a. Is a player in college.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay. All right. Yeah, we'll do that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

So he's, he's actually the nephew of Eli and Peyton, their older brother Koopa, as they say at Cooper. Cooper actually Koopa's son. But don't forget their dad, Archie Manning was a great assault quarterback too, on a terrible Saints team. Great legacy to learn how to play the game.

[Jimmy]

Well, are we good? Can we keep going or not?

[Mike]

We gotta wrap up the show.

[Jimmy]

We gotta, we gotta get going, dad. But we'll, we'll. This is gonna be fun.

[Mike]

Yeah, It'll be a reoccurring guest.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So. And then, and then I'm sure there's going to be plenty of stories that you can talk about just from your vast experience of what. How long were you in the military, Dad? 24 years.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

I was in the army 26 years.

[Jimmy]

26 years in the United States Army. Tell me, what, what rank did you start out as?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

I actually came in as a PFC because I've gone to college a little bit where I enlisted. So as a PFC, I was a 19 Delta in the Reagan's army. Together.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Make you could make he five and.

[Mike]

Send him poopy's number years if you.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Didn'T get in trouble. I made sergeant a little over two. And. And then I finished my enlistment. They weren't gonna send me to ocs, I don't know, college. So I went back to college real quick and I'll just make it pissy. I did three years. I did the program, got the degree because they made me get it. They're like, what's your major? My major is going back on army. That's my nature.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

But happens to be history. And then I went back on active duty and ultimately went through the ranks, retired as a lieutenant colonel after 26 total years.

[Tyler]

And.

[Jimmy]

And. And how much of that was with sof?

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Well, remember, I spent quite a bit of time in soft community after I retired, so I have.

[Mike]

I see where Jimmy gets it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I know.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Seven. Seven.

[Mike]

I got to address the comments.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Then. Better part of another year at the very end of my career in 07 08.

[Jimmy]

All right, so now we got a little bit of an intro. And, dad, I'll. I'll text you when we get off, but we got to address something up here. And. And I don't want to be rude, but we. We gotta. We gotta make movement.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Hey, man, I'm gonna be here. Whatever you want to talk about when you want to do it, I'm in.

[Jimmy]

So. Hey, thanks, Dad. I really. Dad. All right, later.

[Tyler]

I got one coming. I got a dress.

[Mike]

All right, so somebody said, where you going? Oh, you got to get up closer. They can't hear what you're saying. So you got it. What? Mike, that's not a big leg. Well, they made fun of you for having smaller.

[Jason (Vengeance Owner)]

Oh, it's strong.

[Jimmy]

It's strong. He's wiring.

[Mike]

He's got muscle.

[Tyler]

I got a deal. I got a deal. I do an arc trainer workout. I will post it. We'll put in the Patreon.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Patreon.

[Tyler]

I will post that in the Patreon. And anybody who can beat my arc trainer, leg workout, cardio workout, I will give 100 gift card to my store. Anybody who can beat it.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

It ain't happening.

[Mike]

A guy said. A guy named Joey Holt said, this Jimmy guy ruins the show for me. And I said, I agree. Joey, call in. Don't be a. And then Joey went radio silent. So you know what? I. That's the type of stuff that we would want. If you can have. If you can have a conversation and you can actually man up, we don't even need to see your face. You don't have to give us your real info, but if you can man up and tell me why you don't like me, why you don't like Mike, why you don't like Jimmy. And you can actually come with something of merit and something that we could go like, all right, you. But I learned something. Something about myself today. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Then we'll listen to it. But to be a little. And just go comment on something and, like, flip somebody in the dick and run away, like, dude, it's the.

[Tyler]

It's the whole Instagram thing. It's the whole hiding notes. Never been punched in the mouth. Yeah. And there was a real. I saw the other day. I was going to post it, but it was saying exactly that. Like, just. There's just generations of people. I got it. It's a black dude. I'm post it. Black dude. Ranting about how we are dealing with a generation of people who have never been punched in the mouth. And you can tell by how they act.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They've never been in that situation because there's no. They have no filter because they think it's cool and they're hiding. But the second you got to stand in front of me and say it, man, you.

[Mike]

You learned that as a kid, too. And I. We'll get to you.

[Tyler]

I don't. I don't disregard. Hate me.

[Mike]

Hate me. When you're little and you mouth off to somebody bigger than you and he punches you right in the face, that's when you learn. Like, I have to account for the words that come out of my mouth. Right. Wrong or indifferent. Maybe I should.

[Tyler]

First time it happened.

[Mike]

Yeah. I shouldn't have been punching.

[Tyler]

I was playing basketball, and I. I scored, and I ran my mouth to this dude right to his face in front of a bunch of people. By the time I turned around, hit me square in my head. I remember the stars and the birds tweeting, and I was like, well, that wasn't a smart thing to say. Like, I knew right there. There was accountability behind your words.

[Jimmy]

And. And look, man, I mean, first of all, if you want to come debate me on a topic, I would. I would love that, by the way. I would love it. I mean, we've. We lost a great debater, and we. The world needs more conversations.

[Mike]

Yeah. So if you're not. If you. If you're just gonna be hateful, you know, we need.

[Tyler]

We need the hateful. We need the hateful people.

[Mike]

We do. They make for good content. Yeah. Just be somewhat, like. What's the word I'm looking for?

[Jimmy]

Sack up.

[Mike]

Yeah. Like have some kind of merit in what you're talking about.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

You could sit there and say, I hate Jimmy because he talks too much. And we'd be like, that's mean. But, I mean, at least he's honest.

[Jimmy]

I mean, maybe that's true, but you need to shut my mouth.

[Mike]

It really bugs me when Tyler wears sunglasses inside.

[Tyler]

Like, on my channel, I listen. Like, those guys are like, hey, man, every time this guy was rattling off something and you interrupted him, and I'm like, you know what? I got to be better about letting these guys talk. I still have to manage the time. But you're right. Like, I take that very like, okay.

[Jimmy]

There is some really great feedback.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And I was like, you're a cocktail or you're a. Or we hate you.

[Jimmy]

Like, okay, I mean, but like. I mean, the show doesn't work without the people that are watching. And if they got a legitimate gripe, then damn right I want to hear that.

[Tyler]

But what.

[Jimmy]

I hate it when you do that.

[Tyler]

I agree. And. And we're not. Not everybody.

[Mike]

It's.

[Tyler]

This is a hard place to say. This is a hard place to sit, to put yourself in front of a camera and know people are gonna not like you for certain things. They're gonna make up lies about you for.

[Jimmy]

For things.

[Tyler]

They're gonna say things. Sometimes I'm like, what the are you doing? Like, what? You know, And I guess I feel like as I've made those connections and gotten Sal with the pipe hitter funding and gotten, you know, helping jacket recognition, being able to have a platform where I was making money on sales to donate money to fallen officers and helping connect people. That's really where it comes from.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Memes are funny. And I think that that's the other side of it is the meme page. I get a lot of positive feedback that go. Your memes in the group chat. They hit hard at midnight. One, it's. It's mindless, whatever. But for somebody, it's like, okay, it's cool. So I guess that's kind of why I sit here where I'll take the heat. But if me taking the heat by 10 people leads one person to one person and we're able to help somebody. I want to help people. You know, the standard answer on interview, but it's a tough seat, man.

[Mike]

Mike's. Here's the thing. I'm not trying to aid you, but Mike's retired. He doesn't need to do any of nothing. He doesn't. He. He could put his pink monster down. That was on purpose. And he can walk out that door and his life would never be affected.

[Tyler]

By Charlie and Murphy. I have two golden doodles sitting home right now. I can't wait to get back.

[Mike]

And he does all this because at the end of the day, there's a route where somebody gets out. We were able to post a GoFundMe for a cop or a cops kid or a firefighter or, you know, we're able to bring. Unite people. That was the. One of the biggest things about the antihero podcast is that I tried to unite everybody together, because separated, we're all just able to be taken advantage of by brass, admin society. Society telling you how to act, Trying to defang the sheepdogs and the wolves out there. Society's telling you to stay soft. The anti air podcast was the only voice that I knew at the time was like, don't let people castrate you, dude.

[Tyler]

Hold on.

[Mike]

You know you're.

[Tyler]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got a quick call. Quick call.

[Mike]

Who is it?

[Tyler]

Leg day call.

[Mike]

Leg day call. Okay, okay, we'll do it. We'll knock it out.

[Tyler]

Go ahead, real quick. Go ahead, real quick. Talk to me.

[Clint Ludwig]

Wait, you want to hear another one?

[Tyler]

A quickie, Quick.

[Mike]

So.

[Clint Ludwig]

So we jumped into. I was back at 82nd, and we jumped into Fort Stewart, and while I was parachuting down, I was still about 200ft up. I started getting stung by mosquitoes. I was like, oh, this is going to be a fun field problem. So two thirds of the chalks ended up in the trees.

[Tyler]

I've been there. We've all been there.

[Clint Ludwig]

I landed on the drop zone. I was good. And so they stopped all training. They're just driving trucks around with ladders, getting everybody out of the trees. So this specialist, I'm in the patrol base, and this specialist comes running in, and this dude knows more about being an 11 Bravo than any sergeant I ever knew. But they would never trust him with his own soldiers. So he comes running in the patrol base, and he lays down beside him. He's laughing, and I said, what's up, man? He said, you're not gonna believe what happened, man. I said, what is it? He said, I damn landed in the trees. He said, I pulled my reserve and I climbed down. The reserve, just like that. You know, they say in training, I climbed down. It was fine. I was running through the woods. Somebody was up in the trees, trees, saying, help me. So I walked over to him. I, you know, had my knobs on. I looked up at him and I. I said. He said, hey, go get the truck and get me down. And my buddy said. He said, hey, just pull your reserve and climb down. And the dude's like, I'm a jump master.

[Mike]

I know.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

What's his name?

[Mike]

Hey, wait, hold on. Hey, wait. Hey, this is Tyler. Real quick, what's your first name?

[Clint Ludwig]

Clint.

[Mike]

Clint. All right, Clint. Clint. Luda. All right, so you're calling in. So we all roast each other, right? You. You definitely tell dad stories, right? Like where everyone's waiting and it's funny, but it takes about seven and a half minutes to get to the punchline.

[Clint Ludwig]

Dude, I'm telling you. Usually it's 25.

[Jimmy]

Dude, he's bringing it down.

[Tyler]

Tell him a good. Take that next call. Take the leg day call here.

[Mike]

Okay?

[Tyler]

All right, we gotta go, Clint. Appreciate it. Yep. We got the leg day call. My bad. I answered the. I called the wrong number.

[Mike]

Oh, okay.

[Tyler]

Leg day coming up. Here we go.

[Mike]

Clint, we'll get back to you.

[Tyler]

We'll get back to you. Go ahead. Jesus. Talk to me. Talk to me.

[Poopy Johnson]

Hello?

[Tyler]

Yo. Go ahead. You're live.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

Hey, what's going on, brother?

[Tyler]

What's up?

[Jimmy]

Hey, not much. I wanted to tell you something so.

[Tyler]

Everybody can hear this. Okay.

[Mike]

It takes big balls to get on.

[Jimmy]

Something like YouTube, national, international and express what you think in front of everybody.

[Mike]

Knowing that there's going to be a.

[Jimmy]

Ton of people that disagree with you. But you're.

[Mike]

Yet you're still willing to come out.

[Clint Ludwig]

Here and, and get.

[Tyler]

Give your opinion on whatever wants to.

[Mike]

Hear what you have to say about his legs.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Thank you so much, man. We appreciate it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I, I, I, I, I, I do have two questions.

[Jimmy]

Okay, but before I say that, let me tell you, I got a lot in common with. Yeah, the guy there on the right.

[Tyler]

Got it. Give me the question. You get one. Quest. Give us one question. We get one.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

All right.

[Poopy Johnson]

Question.

[Tyler]

Go ahead.

[Lieutenant Colonel (Jimmy's Dad)]

That I heard you're being investigated and.

[Jimmy]

That'S why you left the sheriff's department.

[Tyler]

Who's that? Which one? Tyler or Mike?

[Jimmy]

The other guy.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

We covered that at the beginning. I talked about. Here, I'll answer it. I'm gonna hang up, but I'll answer that for you. I got it. So like I said at the beginning for his answer was Tyler resigned and was notified he was under investigation after he resigned. So.

[Mike]

All right, well, hold on. We gotta, we gotta do this calling thing better. We're sorry for hanging out.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna hang up. We're have to hang up on people. I'm too nice. Where for anybody says I'm a.

[Mike]

We're getting calling in that are just like, hey, like these call ins.

[Tyler]

Got to be 30 seconds.

[Jimmy]

Be brief, be bright, be gone.

[Tyler]

Opposite of Jimmy.

[Mike]

Yeah. What we're gonna do, don't talk that much. We're gonna call Clint back and we're gonna call this guy back and apologize. But like we can't have these long drawn out, like. All right, I have two questions. But before that, I have to say this. Like it's got to Be quicker. That's on us.

[Tyler]

Quick.

[Mike]

That's on us. And we're learning.

[Tyler]

It's day one, dude.

[Jimmy]

It's great.

[Mike]

People are like, I want to hear. Hear Quint's story. But the problem is that, you know.

[Tyler]

We'Re supposed to be super chatted on Thursday, and then, you know.

[Mike]

But we're gonna call those two guys back and talk to them individually again. If you're gonna call in and ask a question that's already been addressed multiple times. The thing is, it was addressed on this podcast, on this live broadcast right now. We spent five minutes addressing it.

[Tyler]

He's right. We need a call screener. We're now hiring for call screener where our pay is zero. If you're in the Orlando area and you want to come hang out at the studio and screen calls and do that for us, you're welcome. It's an internship position on the couch. You get your mug on there. We'll pump your social media. We. We. We're looking for that position.

[Mike]

All right, so that's the first broadcast. The first Monday night or Monday during the day. It. I think it went very well. We're a bunch of pipe hitters who have no idea what we're doing. We spent all last week prepping for this episode and prepping not so much just for the episode in general, but how we're going to structure everything. We had Natalie, our design girl, redoing all the images and the graphics and the videos that we put up there. And, you know, everybody had spent a lot of time. Heather has been doing all the pr.

[Tyler]

And my wife's been in the comments.

[Mike]

My wife's Lily, Jojo, Joe, Heather, all of this. We could not. We wouldn't be sitting here without our wife.

[Tyler]

I literally passed my wife now and for 20 minutes and get to see her, and she's going one way, I'm going the other. And.

[Jimmy]

And how fantastically supportive they all are. My. My wife is like, go do this now.

[Tyler]

The white knights in the comments.

[Jimmy]

I know.

[Mike]

Yeah. My. My wife is. She's the sweetest woman in the world, and she will. She is cutthroat.

[Tyler]

Just like we're losing credit with Jay Burns.

[Jimmy]

Hey, Jay. Dude, Jay, text your number, bro. We will.

[Tyler]

Jay, I was trying to call you, and I ended up calling the long story guy back.

[Mike]

So, Clint and who is the leg day guy? We're gonna call you.

[Tyler]

Jay is supposed to be the leg day guy. I'll talk to you.

[Mike]

We're gonna call you. All right, Jay, Clint, we're gonna call you back. That.

[Tyler]

Text me your name.

[Mike]

That's it for the Monday broadcast. We will see you Thursday night. For the Anti Hero Squad cast, Thursday night is always will forever be for the boys. We'll see you Thursday night. Roll that intro as the outro. Because we are too cheap to make an outro. Right? JV team for life.