CHINESE SPY CITY MAYOR CAUGHT IN LOS ANGELES (05/12/2026)

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast — Episode Summary

Episode: CHINESE SPY CITY MAYOR CAUGHT IN LOS ANGELES

Date: May 13, 2026
Host(s): Justin and The Glue

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Overview

This episode tackles a headline-grabbing story of alleged espionage involving the mayor of Arcadia, Los Angeles, who was charged with acting as an illegal agent for the Chinese government. The hosts break down the details of the case, its broader implications for American cities with large immigrant populations, and segue into spirited discussions on policing, use of force, and law enforcement overtime. The show’s tone is irreverent, conversational, and often laced with humor and blunt commentary, geared toward a blue-collar, first-responder audience.

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Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

1. Arcadia Mayor Charged as Chinese Agent

[02:49–09:16]

• Summary of the Case:

  • Justin: Outlines the DOJ charges against Aline Wang, Arcadia’s former mayor, for being an undisclosed agent of China. Wang is accused of spreading pro-China propaganda and republishing material received directly from Chinese officials ([03:00]).
  • Wang operated a news website, under Chinese direction, targeting the Chinese-American community.
  • Wang and associate Mike Son allegedly posted articles to counter negative press about China (Xinjiang issue specifically mentioned).
  • Wang resigned as part of a plea deal, facing up to 10 years in prison.

• Host Reactions & Analysis:

  • Justin: “It’s deeply concerning that someone who previously received and executed directives from the PRC... is now in a position of public trust, especially since the relationship was never disclosed.” ([04:14])
  • The Glue: Questions which agency “popped” Wang, suggesting skepticism about the FBI’s capabilities, speculates on possible CIA involvement ([06:07]).
  • Discussion of how the scale of this case compares to other demographic or immigrant-led issues in U.S. cities (e.g., Somali communities in Minneapolis leading to fraud).

• Broader Concerns:

  • Is it a surprise, the hosts wonder, that in a nation as tolerant and ethnically diverse as the U.S., such espionage could happen?
  • Justin: “What do you expect when you’re a country that’s so tolerant... you allow them to create communities inside U.S. cities? This stuff’s gonna happen.” ([08:53])

• Notable Quote:

  • Justin: “When you speak to the Chinese population that make up 60% of the city of Arcadia, is it really that far off to think that they’re going to have communications with China?” ([07:27])

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2. Law Enforcement: Bodycam Breakdown & Use of Force

[11:03–29:49]

A. Riverside, CA Bodycam Incident Discussion

[11:03–21:02]

• Hosts watch and debrief a viral law enforcement video from Riverside, CA, involving a failed attempt to restrain a suspect.

• Critiques:

  • Officers’ tactical indecision and hesitation (notably, female officer called out for not engaging).
  • Justin: “She probably has a really cool Instagram page where she pretends shoots guns and, you know, goes to the gym…” ([13:53])
  • Taser and ASP (baton) use: Discussion about missed opportunities to subdue suspect, and question if modern officers are becoming less hands-on.
  • Public perception is that officers should have tackled the unarmed suspect quickly. “When the civilians are saying just tackle him... Like, do I need to become a cop?” ([21:47])

• Broader Points:

  • Comparison to ‘80s and ‘90s policing when more physical tactics were used.
  • The dynamics of training, especially when encountering suspects in traffic-heavy environments.

B. Appleton, WI Use of Force Incident

[23:20–29:49]

• Bodycam footage released after officers punched a woman during a chaotic arrest.
• Reaction:
  • The Glue: “Punches in this scenario — people had a problem with it. Can you imagine that?” ([27:08])
  • Both hosts defend the officers, citing the evolving, public, and potentially dangerous scene.
  • Distinction made between "focused strikes" (approved by Wisconsin policy) and excessive force.
  • Universal agreement: Punching is sometimes necessary and situational awareness dictates tactics.
  • Justin: Cautions about the practical dangers of punching (“your knuckles will break before that skull breaks”). ([29:49])

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3. Law Enforcement Overtime Pay Scandal

[32:00–37:10]

• Overview:
  • San Diego PD officers reported earning massive sums in overtime — up to $285,000 in one year, some netting over $1M+ in a 5-year period.
  • Justin: “It’s a lot of money, dude.” ([33:54])
  • Hosts discuss feasibility, speculate on implications, and compare with their own (much more modest) overtime experiences.
  • Cautions about how much of this is legit vs. ripe for fraud.
  • The Glue: “If you’re claiming to be at work enough to make 200 grand in overtime, you probably never went home. I don’t know how you went home.” ([37:12])

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4. Negligent Police Encounter: Disabled Veteran Stranded

[37:16–49:05]

• Incident:

  • A 71-year-old disabled Army veteran and her 75-year-old amputee husband were left stranded on a dark Georgia highway over a disputed insurance status.
  • Justin: “There’s no excuse for that. There’s no excuse.” ([40:55])
  • Couple’s insurance (USAA) was valid, but officer allegedly refused to check digital proof, towed the car, and left them in the cold.
  • The Glue: “You should let them go and then you could follow up... But to leave somebody on the side of the road stranded — that’s... dude.” ([45:27])

• Discussion:

  • Hosts share their own experiences, highlighting when to show discretion (especially with elderly or those facing clear hardships).
  • They stress that law can be upheld with empathy and common sense, especially for technical licensing/insurance errors.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Justin:

  • “It’s deeply concerning that someone...is now in a position of public trust.” ([04:14])
  • “What do you expect when you’re a country that’s so tolerant to other ethnicities...this stuff’s gonna happen.” ([08:53])
  • “When the civilians are saying, just tackle him...doesn't look good.” ([21:47])

• The Glue:

  • “[Female officer] probably has a really cool Instagram page where she pretends shoots guns... She probably has lip gloss.” ([14:05])
  • “If you’re claiming to be at work enough to make 200 grand in overtime, you probably never went home.” ([37:12])
  • “You gotta use common sense, and you gotta, like, old. There’s not even a suspended license, dude.” ([45:27])

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:49 | Introduction of the Arcadia spy-mayor story | | 04:14 | DOJ statement & concerns about public trust | | 06:07 | Speculation on which agency made the arrest | | 08:53 | Commentary on tolerance and ethnic communities | | 11:03 | Breakdown of Riverside officer use-of-force video | | 14:05 | Criticism of disengaged officers (Instagram/lip gloss joke) | | 23:20 | Appleton, WI officer punch incident + policy analysis | | 32:00 | Discussion on San Diego PD overtime pay | | 37:16 | Story of disabled veteran left on the side of the road | | 45:27 | Final remarks on policing with discretion |

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Summary

This episode delivers a no-holds-barred discussion on law enforcement, community integrity, and questions of cultural assimilation and legal responsibility in modern America. Using major headlines, viral police videos, and real-life case studies, the hosts bring insight, critique, and street-level wisdom to controversial issues—always with their signature humor and candor.

Listeners will come away with a clearer understanding of the pressures and pitfalls facing today’s officers, the impact of international influence in local politics, and the hosts’ belief in upholding American values with realism—sometimes, with a punchline.

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Transcript

[Justin]

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[The Glue]

Here we are. Comments are already kicking. I've absolutely ruptured my left eardrum. That's what it is.

[Justin]

It's bad.

[The Glue]

Can't hear out of this side.

[Justin]

Wait, do I sound like I'm coming through my mic?

[The Glue]

No. And you're cutting in and out.

[Justin]

All right, hold on one second.

[The Glue]

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[Justin]

I'm back, guys.

[The Glue]

Love it. Yeah. Sound better? Yeah, hopefully.

[Justin]

All right, Chill day. Some cool ass topics to discuss.

[The Glue]

Yeah, we do have some. I have so many that we're going to push them to tomorrow. But I got some good stuff, you guys.

[Justin]

Yes. The biggest thing I thought that I saw internationally that kind of affects everything. As a Los Angeles politician that was designated a spy by the feds. Arcadia is a small city outside of Los Angeles. Is the mayor just resigned for being popped by the feds. So we're going to look into this a little bit, which is huge because I have quite I have a lot of questions about this, so first off, here it is. Arcadia made a charge with acting as an agent of the Chinese government. The former mayor of Arcadia was expected to plead guilty after being charged with acting as an illegal agent for the People's Republic of China, said by the Justice Department. Aline Wang, who was who was elected to the Arcadia city council in November 2022, reached a plea deal with the feds after she was accused of doing the bidding of the Chinese government. Wang, 58, as well as yawning Mike Son of Chino Hills, allegedly worked in the direction of the People's Republic of China and operated a U S News center, a website proposed to be a source for the local Chinese American community. Between the late 2020 and and through 2022, the DOJ said Wang and sun received directives from Chinese officials to post content that's favorable to the Chinese government, spread propaganda on behalf of the People's Republic of China. It's deeply concerning that someone who previously received and executed directives from the PRC government officials who is now in a position of public trust, but particularly so because the relationship with the foreign government had never been disclosed. In one incident, the pair received a an essay draft from the Chinese official via the web chat encrypted messaging app being given a directive to push back against the LA Times article about I'm not even going to try Xing Zhang the Uyghur heartland of China. Within minutes, Wang and Son published the article on their website claiming that there was no forced labor including comp producing in Xinjiang. Is that what it's called?

[The Glue]

Sounds good.

[Justin]

In response to the PRC officials said so fast. Thank you everyone. Wang also published an article in direction of Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs. According to the doj, Wang resigned from City Council and vacated the position as part of a plea agreement. Wang admitted to working for the Chinese government on U S soil and not notifying the U S government. Wang's lawyer blah blah blah. Wang Son Wang's co conspirator, sir is serving four years in federal prison after pleading guilty in October 25to acting as an illegal agent in the foreign government. Wang was expected to plead guilty coming weeks after making her first court appearance on Monday. She could serve a statutory maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison. Chinese residents make up a big portion of Arcadia, so there's a lot to take away from that mainly. First off, who do you think popped her? What agency do you think it was? Because I don't believe the FBI is that good at their job.

[The Glue]

CIA Probably.

[Justin]

That being said, I didn't think the CIA operated on American soil.

[The Glue]

Yeah, I mean, maybe it was the FBI. I mean, it seems like a layup because when I hear that, it's like, we know we have Minnesota taken over by Somalians to the point of 8 billions dollars in fraud. We have plants all over. But like, I get. China's a huge enemy, but it's like one person and her son go down in the feds for.

[Justin]

No, it's not her son. It's a guy named Son.

[The Glue]

Like. Okay, I thought. No, that sounds very confusing.

[Justin]

Wang, Q, N, A lot of Wangs.

[The Glue]

Okay. But it, it's like. And then it sounds technical. Right? Like they just didn't disclose that they once worked for the Chinese government. Was there any. There was. I didn't hear any allegations of like, leaking high intelligent information. He's a mayor. I'm not downplaying it. And obviously any spy against the United States is a bad person. But when you hear that and then you think of like Somalian takeovers of places and cities being overrun with all kinds of crazy stuff, it's. It's like, that's the one the feds go crazy about is. Yeah, Wang's. Wang Son.

[Justin]

Like Wang Son.

[The Glue]

Interesting.

[Justin]

Two people.

[The Glue]

By the way, I know that's the name of operation. Wang Young is the name of the. Now that's the name of it.

[Justin]

When you bring up such a good point like this, I have to give you credit. We, we glorify indigenous communities within the United States, one of them being Somalians in Minneapolis, which led to billions of dollars of tax fraud, yet no one cares. And you get surprised when you're speaking to the Chinese population that make up 60% of the city of Arcadia. Is it really that far off to think that they're going to have communications with China to speak to the Chinese

[The Glue]

population in the communist state of California?

[Justin]

And just like anywhere else in Orlando, we have. Orlando has a very large probably mile, mile and a half long of Chinese territory. It seems like every storefront is in. Written in whatever that is. I don't think it's Chinese.

[The Glue]

Mandarin.

[Justin]

Mandarin, Yeah. I mean like you go to the sofa store, it's a bunch of holographic holographics and whatever you call that hydroglyphics.

[The Glue]

It's Chinese writing or Mandarin. It's letters. It's what every. What every respectable like 18 year old goes and gets a tattoo of. When they want to say something without saying it, they get it. And Chinese. Yeah. So I have their own city in Epcot too, man. They got everything.

[Justin]

So I'm not very surprised in this at all. And like you said, I'm not trying to downplay it because america first, but what do you expect when you're a country that's so tolerant to other ethnicities to the point where you allow them to create communities inside u. S. Cities? This stuff's gonna happen.

[The Glue]

Yeah. Yeah. We got a super chat from bama boy says wang's son is not a net positive. Can't wait for the raffle this month. Hell yeah. Unfortunately for you, it's only 4.99, and you're not. You'll be in the patreon raffle if you're a patreon, but he will not be in the super chat raffle. But we appreciate you guys very, very much.

[Justin]

Well, I'll tell you what, bama boy, if you didn't know, if you make another five dollar super chat, we'll count it. Oh, wait, no, that. That's hard on you when you go to the back. Yeah, never mind. Don't do that.

[The Glue]

Now I can see if he goes back to back. It goes back to back right now. It'll be real easy. Not that we're asking you to spend money. You know, the. The. The. The giveaways are 9.99 and above super chats on any show in the counterculture anti hero network. One giveaway for counterculture, one giveaway for anti hero.

[Justin]

You're calling me the jew.

[The Glue]

I'm not. Dude, you went full jew yesterday. I don't even want to hear. Anyway, so I came up with that saying. I think that's a good name. The glue and the jew, man. Like, that's the. We might have to start another podcast,

[Justin]

the glue and the Jew.

[The Glue]

But yeah, 9.99 went above one for counterculture, one for. There it is. Now you're in.

[Justin]

There it is.

[The Glue]

We'll give it to him. Yep. I got a sticker that says that. You can buy that too. Oh, man.

[Justin]

So November flag the second half of this show.

[The Glue]

Good.

[Justin]

So, yo, why the tie with you, Justin? Like that in the short? You gotta catch up, bro. We've covered that on, like, four episodes all the way.

[The Glue]

Made it all the way to two cops, one donut.

[Justin]

Yeah, it was. It was a good time.

[The Glue]

Where you want to go next?

[Justin]

Your call, bud, because we got a

[The Glue]

lot to cover in this hour. You want to go to the video? Let's go to the video. Ask the video.

[Justin]

All right, let's see.

[The Glue]

So this. I'm gonna play the video. I'll point out what I see. Oh, that would have worked. But there's a. There's some other things we'll talk about. So let's play the video. This is Riverside 6. Jedi's is going to give it. I'm going to get it wrong. But this is out where one of these agencies is. Where they just fired the veterans. Riverside, California where they fired the three vets for being 100 disabled. But this is what's going on out there. Oh, Oh. Notice good. Better. Indifferent. Yes. I'm gonna go back. But just pay attention. That one is one of the officers is fully engaged. Maybe not the greatest tactics. One is not really doing as much if you can. I don't know which one you just.

[Justin]

You know what though?

[The Glue]

I bet you don't leave Mike. There's ass goes down the road. Tase his ass, dude.

[Justin]

It goes far.

[The Glue]

Civilian understands.

[Justin]

Yeah, that scared.

[The Glue]

Just tackle his ass. There they go. The cavalry is back. Now we saw one female doing some crazy stuff. I want you to watch with the female who runs up. Other female still standing there doing nothing. By the way, the original. Watch the other female that runs up. Reaches for it. Invisible handcuffs. They're not there. So you want to talk about it and let it run without audio. Oh, oh.

[Justin]

So here we go. I just Very impressed.

[The Glue]

Tackling would work too.

[Justin]

That asked like gets sucked out of this galaxy. Like there's gravity going sideways. Watch this. Ask leave this guy's. Oh, where'd it go?

[The Glue]

The meme pages and jokes were saying that it was it. You skipped right there. They say it's a magic shirt because he actually hits the shirt with the ass when it goes flying. Watch. Ready? Swing shirt miss all the way down.

[Justin]

Look at that ass. It just keeps going. Like it does go flying.

[The Glue]

Yeah, yeah. But look at. Look. So here. I'm gonna pause it. The female's useless. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I will highlight you. It's not flip flop.

[Justin]

This is what I said.

[The Glue]

Call it.

[Justin]

No, you're right. She probably has a really cool Instagram page where she pretends shoots guns and you know she goes to the gym.

[The Glue]

Correct. Hopefully we don't. She probably has lip gloss.

[Justin]

Let's find her Instagram.

[The Glue]

So now the guy. But the guy is useless. The guy is useless too, because here is like even the guy saying, this is an unarmed guy. You have to go hands on. You have to tackle him. You don't have to. Let me. Let me take that back. I don't want. I don't want anybody coming in the chat with a two letter name that says has J's and O's in it and say you have to do anything but this is the time. Even though the guys like why don't they tackle them but this is where they're both failing. And I don't know what your goal is. Your end game is. You're just. I don't know how it speeds up to like the cavalry comes.

[Justin]

And I would say, I would say it's probably not smart unless you are proficiently trained to go toe to toe with somebody like that. Especially if your backup is not doing anything. This guy, I don't think he should have went straight. Ask that we both agree the ass do nothing but at least piss people off. They don't really feel it because they're so pumped up. So ASP is already out of play right there at this point. You might as well.

[The Glue]

Why don't. Here's the thing though. Why not what? Why don't you tase him? They didn't even try. She's got the taser out and Joanna put a good. I forget what she calls it. The tiptoe. Here, I'll read it. It's on my page. It's very accurate description. Some, some jargon but it's, it's accurate here. The comment is the old two step taser trot. Broads never know if they're coming or going with the taser. Be quick that to pull it out, but we'll babysit with it. So look at her like dancing. She doesn't know what to do. She's moving around, up, down. You have every right to tase this guy. You've already swung a stick at him, right? You've hit him with a stick so you can tase him but nothing happens. And obviously get sped up, but why not even try? And then the dudes come and level them. The girl's still standing back there doing absolutely nothing. And then the girl that runs up that actually does decide to get in the pile. Watch her reach right there. She reaches for handcuffs that don't exist. I don't know if she used to keep.

[Justin]

She's wearing a cool uniform. That, that's. I'll tell you right there, that's knowing your gear. When she was on patrol, that's where her handcuffs used to be. That's where her handcuffs used to be. But now she's got a cool assignment and she's probably got them front loaded on her vest and she's like, yeah, I'll just sit down.

[The Glue]

But I Mean, that's pretty bad police work.

[Justin]

I think that the. The dude in the ball cap or one of the dudes in the ball caps look like they might have gotten a. I don't. Like you said, I don't know why it cuts off and cuts back on, but may have gotten a better advantage.

[The Glue]

They added. Whoever posted it, edited it. I think some other people showed up. I don't think that's the same guy. I think this guy that's in the video right there. Never. It looks like he's still standing around. And maybe it's a guy that gets shoved off at the end by that female. But I mean, the taser's out now. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 16 seconds, 17 seconds. We can see still talking. You have it. And here's what the. Here goes back to the whole issue. What is going on back there? Traffic. You have cars driving by. He could shove you. He could. He could end up in traffic. You're going to be the bad guy. You have. That's a situation where you have to be quick and. And has to end fast. Like that has to be use of force. This is where I agree with you on everything in the book at this point. Distractionary blows, kicks, punches, elbows, body slam on his. You have a situation in traffic where innocent person could drive by and hit this guy. Now they're up. You could get hit, he can get hit. There is no other than shooting in which I wouldn't say we're that point. Everything else goes at this point.

[Justin]

Here's one.

[The Glue]

You got to get this guy.

[Justin]

One thing to say can this kid. Do you remember like three years ago the foot pursuit where the guy, the cop tased the dude and he got killed by the train. Do you remember that? He tased the dude. It was at night, told everything was warranted except for the fact that it wasn't a train.

[The Glue]

It wasn't a train, it was a car. It was a semi. So yeah, he falls out into the middle of highway.

[Justin]

This is Southern California traffic.

[The Glue]

This is a good time.

[Justin]

This is a good time.

[The Glue]

You have a car stopped. The traffic is behind you. Look where they're backing up. They're backing up to where traffic eventually is driving by. There's a semi, there's cars. So I get great argument. Great point, Great point. Great point. Like there's a possibility that, yes, you won't tase him into traffic. But at that scenario where I give you those 17 second count.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[The Glue]

It seems that the left of Our screen is blocked and they have. They can't. He can't go anywhere behind in front of behind them where the traffic is. So 17 seconds to activate the taser is pretty much good time.

[Justin]

Or what do you think you would have done? Honestly?

[The Glue]

I would have body slammed him. I would have never pulled my ass about. I would have done right where he is right there. I would have just speared him and body slammed him. Yeah, I'm confident in. In my size versus his size. He looks like a probably 160 pound dude. Pretty confident.

[Justin]

Tiny. He looks kind of bigger because that little fort short female cops probably like five, four.

[The Glue]

Yes. But I mean in this case. Or I would tase him. I mean I would go. I can say from my experience I would go hands on first. I would have tackled them or body slammed them in the ground and then pinned them and something like that. But originally by myself. And then if that didn't work, let's say he breaks free. Then I'm like all right, I tried once to grab you. You're slippery. Let's just tase you. Simple. Yeah.

[Justin]

Yep. Not much to say.

[The Glue]

You have to be in that situation though. That's what I'm saying. These guys work in a high crime area. But have they. Are they ever in a situation like, you know, I got people talk. Oh, you're from a small town. 200000 people population. I almost killed like 3 solid people where I had my finger just about ready to go bang. And. And you've been in that situation before. You're like I've been here before. I've been close to this before. You kind of go through in your head where you need to be. And these people don't obviously train or have any idea how to handle this. Imagine if he's armed. Imagine if like would. Now what?

[Justin]

Who goes for their taser?

[The Glue]

I don't know why that is dude.

[Justin]

Or that Taser the ass. Who does that? I've never been on a call. I probably would have told. I would have told somebody. Put that away, dude. He's gonna use that on us. Like we don't have any problem with it. Is honestly.

[The Glue]

You saw him.

[Justin]

Go ahead, look.

[The Glue]

You saw a full wind up swing. It's not heavy enough to really hurt that bad. Can it hurt? Yes, but it's very light and you're amount. It's like swinging a wiffle ball bat almost. You just can't get any real strength behind it. Yeah, it's garbage, dude. It's garbage. It's garbage. I Don't know why they still issue it. So anyway, yeah, that's all I got to say about that.

[Justin]

I have nothing, nothing good to say about it. It just seems like another.

[The Glue]

I mean, it's all over the training pages. And it's another highlight of a female cop doing nothing. And I can't really on the too much because the male cop, once he swings the asp, he doesn't do anything either. So it's like, what are we doing? As crime and use of forces and guns and all the crazy gets bigger, we just continue to look more under trained than ever. The 80, like you said, knock it. But you're right. 80s 90s cops would have been scrapping, dude. There would have been blows thrown. They would have been throwing punches. They would have. He'd have gotten custody. 2:80, I'll even give you an 80s female to an 80s female and an 80s male. 90s female, 90s male. They would have been hands on. It might not have looked pretty, but

[Justin]

they would have been good. When the civilians are saying, just tackle them. Like, I know civilians don't really know everything, but it doesn't look good when the civilians filming the construction workers in their truck are like, dude, handle this, please. Like, do I need to become a cop?

[The Glue]

Like, yeah, go back to the Miami shooting of the five, the five females that shoot the male in the back. The dude's yelling, where's the male cop? Like, y' all need to get a male cop. Like, I mean, civilians kind of see it and they're not always right. But in this situation, it's like, it's kind of like watching a football game. And the guy's like, you have the best running back in football. You're in the one yard line, kind of like the Seahawks losing the Super Bowl. Just hand it off. Like, give it to Marshawn Lynch. This is. These guys are watching this going, he's unarmed, he's smaller than the guy. You tried hitting him with a stick. Like it didn't work. Like, just tackle him, take him to the ground. But hey, man, calm me fornia, dude.

[Justin]

Well, you know, speaking of cops punching people, you got that video on hand or that website or one second, one second, one second. Should cops be allowed.

[The Glue]

You know, I got everything.

[Justin]

That is the age old question because as of most policies, cops are allowed to punch people in the face. That it's just, it is what it is. But this video we're gonna break down because is it as bad as the Texas one?

[The Glue]

No, this isn't bad. These guys were Cleared.

[Justin]

I had to fire the Mexicans that cut my lawn because they did such a bad job two months in a row.

[The Glue]

No way.

[Justin]

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

[The Glue]

All right.

[Justin]

Not that has to do with anything, but Appleton Police hire a local register llc. We do more than just file paperwork with this.

[News Reporter]

Thank you, David. We do have a update for you now. Appleton police just releasing the video of a recent use of force incident. You can see here four different angles of this incident where officers punched a woman during her arrest. Now it appears officers are trying to break up a fight between two people. That's when the officer strikes one of them. In the view on your upper right, it appears multiple officers are still breaking the two up after the woman was struck. That woman says she was assaulted on May 3 and claims she suffered injuries, including a concussion after the officer struck her. Now, Police Chief Todd Olson telling Police Assistant Chief Todd Olson saying the department's internal review found the officer's actions were, quote, measured and necessary. End quote. The police department says it is releasing these body cam and traffic videos so that the community can see. Community, excuse me, can see the entire incident, not just a short clip that was circulating online. You can find the full video on our website. Wbay.

[The Glue]

I think another version of it. Some people hanging out. You're starting a business because you're great

[Justin]

at what I can hear it.

[The Glue]

Not because you're an expert at work and filing.

[Justin]

All right, just. Lee, I just turned the volume off for some reason. It's glitching. And it was playing an ad. And the video.

[The Glue]

Okay, it's probably in the background, but I can't see it. But here's the situation. You know, you think in this situation. Look how chaotic it is, dude.

[Justin]

Like, yeah, I saw a video.

[The Glue]

Female down there is one.

[Justin]

I saw a video clip of a YN on the news saying his back hurts because he got slammed by the cops. And his mom's over there saying, how could you do this? My son's back hurts. And then they played the video and it was just like this.

[The Glue]

Yeah. I mean, anytime this is going on, look at this. Who wants to deal with this? Two cops there. Like, let me see if there's one more view.

[Justin]

I mean, sometimes cops get in it for the love of the game, right? Like, that's what you sign up for to go toe to toe. But maybe. I don't know.

[The Glue]

All right, so the advertising. Aberdeen Appleton Police Department says officers acted within training and policy. May 3 Use of force incident drawing national attention. Maybe this is the one. Yeah. Here we Go. Let's get this one up. You'll see the punches thrown in this one.

[Justin]

Let me turn the volume back up.

[The Glue]

See the white female population punches coming up right about. Dude. See, now we gotta praise that one. She's in this crap, man. Those punches in this scenario, people had a problem with it. Can you imagine that?

[Justin]

I don't think those.

[The Glue]

They weren't effective, but they weren't to be like a problem.

[Justin]

So you're okay with.

[The Glue]

You're okay. I'm okay with anybody punching in that situation. No male. That member. Come on. Way different. This is a. Look at this scene. Dude.

[Justin]

Somebody resisting arrest.

[The Glue]

Yep. In a. In a public environment where you have to act fast. You don't have time. You're not in a house in a bedroom with you two and an autistic female. You are in. Involved in a chaotic rapidly developing situation in the public. Like this has to be taken care of fast. Punches are good. Your environment dictates some of your tactics, man. Like, you don't have time to sit here and beg and plead and ask.

[Justin]

Were you.

[The Glue]

I didn't. Again. I wouldn't. Let's go back. I've punched. Let's see.

[Justin]

Probably.

[The Glue]

Could she be biting her? Look. I mean, look, I don't know all the story, but let's look when the. Do we already punch you? I already did.

[Justin]

Hold on.

[The Glue]

Let's go back. There's a takedown. Young people disagreeing with the police do. That fat white girl's way out of place. There you go. I mean, maybe she's biting her arm. Maybe she's got, you know. You don't know what's happening right there. So I don't have a problem with that though. You're trying to take somebody down their head.

[Justin]

Like one time we were fighting on drugs and I mount. We could not get this guy. He was superhuman strength. Would have been a great video that every police agency or every police channel would love to break down. And I mounted him and got really hot, rode really high. And I started punching him in the face to the point where he was falling asleep. I was hitting him that hard. And I got pulled off of him. And then he came to before they could get him cuffed and started fighting again. But I could hear him going. But I was punching him so hard.

[The Glue]

Let's le. Let's. So the person in the clip claiming to be the woman said she was assaulted and suffered injuries. The department said. Focus. There's another word. Get. Write this one down. Focused strikes like that one. Focus. Strikes are approved. Tactic under Wisconsin's DAAT system to control actively resisting or assaultive subjects. And the officers followed post incident protocols, including offering medical evaluation and completing required reports. So that's a good. I'm good with it. So we're gonna. We got a new term for the 99 that is focus. Focus. Focused strikes.

[Justin]

Not distractionary blues.

[The Glue]

That's right up there with distractionary blows. Same thing, just different wording. I have a problem with it.

[Justin]

I don't have a problem with it either. I just do think you need to make sure it's not. My, My opinion about punching is it's kind of a nerdy one in the sense that you need to be really, really careful if you're going to be punching people under duress without proper training. Because you're punching the hardest part of the human body, which is the skull, and your knuckles will break before that skull breaks. So.

[The Glue]

Yes, yes. So there's, there's that argument. And I, I had a buddy of mine that punched a guy a bunch of times and broke his hand and another guy, I know a couple that have done that. So is it the best option? No, but punching for, for, I believe the punch in the one we're talking about with the girl where the guy punches the girl in the face in the, in the room, I believe that was more like a pissed off, divvying out punishment. In this case, it's quick, rapidly evolving. You're trying to get her head free, whatever. Maybe she bit her. Like I said, I don't, I don't know all the facts, but in that situation, it's a little different. When you have to quickly get somebody into custody, the force is a little. You can use more force in those. Environment dictates that I got to get this guy or this person in custody. With a crowd, I can't sit here and fight them, risk my back being turned to the people. You got to get it over with quicker. You can't just kill them. So I'm not saying just shoot them, but you can use some more tactics like punching or maybe a body slam or something quick and effective to go, hey, you want me to sing and dance around with this guy and try to escort them to the ground gently and all that, or I had to get this over with. This person's acting like a. I body slammed him, cuffed him and got him out of there because my safety and everybody else like, it changes with that chaotic environment. So I don't have a problem with it. And they didn't either. So I'm glad.

[Justin]

I'm glad the chain of command didn't say anything stupid like that looked bad. We're looking into it or I. We don't like the way it looked like they were like hey,

[The Glue]

listen to the comply Jerry Worms. What's Jerry Worms say? Don't resist.

[Justin]

He also says he'll shoot you in the back.

[The Glue]

Why not, right?

[Justin]

What are we doing on the poor people view? Look at us now on the poor people view.

[The Glue]

Oh yeah. This is the pre Justin meltdown view.

[Justin]

Let's talk about that overtime story because

[The Glue]

we got some people making some money.

[Justin]

Is that legit? There's no, there's no fraud or anything.

[The Glue]

I'll let you be the judge. We'll read it. Let me get that story up. I need to go work at San Diego Police Department because they make some dough.

[Justin]

I mean because that's so hard to do in just overtime. That's not including salary.

[The Glue]

A San Diego. Nope. A San Diego police officer, John Jason Constanza earned $285,000 in overtime pay last year. 144 more than his salary over the course of the past five years. Through December 2021 to December of 2025, Castana Constanza took home $1.28 million in overtime pay alone, more than any other city employee. According to public records. Officer Bueno, very good for him. Took home $209,000 in overtime pay in 2025 and since 2021 has earned $949,000 in overtime. Officer Rocha Roa took home more than $209,000 in overtime and over $882,000 since 2021. Police part records show the three police officers and two sergeants made over $200,000 in overtime pay in 2025. On top of their salaries and benefits, another 35 police officers collected over $100,000 in pay. Overall, the city in 2025 paid $47.7 million in overtime to. To its police force. But the actual total represents 1.3 million reduction from police overtime payouts in 2024. So they, they actually paid more in 2024 than last year. But I'm not saying it's fraud. I'm not saying it's. But there's your overtime stats for it just played on the screen. I don't know how to get back.

[Justin]

It's a lot of money, dude.

[The Glue]

This is the overtime in San Diego. Yeah. For over five years. 33, 39, 45, 49, $47 million. So you make the call. You know, we had the Story last week where in New Orleans police officer worked 363 days of the year and nobody knew anything about it. And that's just, that's significant.

[Justin]

Over time, the auditors.

[The Glue]

I made a million dollars as a cop.

[Justin]

You got to think the auditors are on that like white on rice, though. Do you think they can you really. And that's what over, under. Do you think it's.

[The Glue]

Yeah, you better hope one minute of that's. You better hope one minute. I, I, I.

[Justin]

It doesn't seem very feasible to be

[The Glue]

legit, but I'm trying to think how you could, how you could earn. So I'm trying to think in my world, we made $65 an hour for overtime gigs. If you scale it down, let's cut it in half. They probably make 200 grand a year out there, base salary. I would up close. So we made 100. So at 100, if I cut it all in half, I don't. There's no way I can see myself making. If he made 200 last year, I don't think I could make a hundred. The most I've made in overtime in a year is probably close to 30.

[Justin]

That's working.

[The Glue]

Like, I remember working two straight. Two straight weeks. Two straight. No, I remember working like 21 days in a row. Like 21 days in a row. Football games at night, churches on Saturday and Sunday or, or details, Parks, gun Show. Just 21 straight days of like, I cannot put this earpiece in my ear another day before I could blow my brains out. And like, I mean, I don't know how you get to that number of hours and money. I mean, I don't know what their overtime rate is. Maybe they're making a buck 20, buck 50 an hour for like side gigs and all that. Football games. I don't know what they're working.

[Justin]

No, because if they're making. You said you think they might be making 200k a year?

[The Glue]

No, no, no. Yeah, these guys were making 209. Oh, salary.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[The Glue]

Let me look. They made two. It doesn't matter what their base pay is. That number was only overtime. They made $200,000 a year in overtime.

[Justin]

Yeah, I was talking about. Their hourly overtime rate, though, is going to be significantly higher than here.

[The Glue]

Well, remember, when I say overtime, so they start at around 71. When I say overtime, you got to remember they have football games, baseball teams. You could be working every day like you work in a big city like that with sports teams. I'm not saying they're actually working 16 hour days at the station. They could be working eight hours and then go work football, baseball, whatever, whatever they have. But I know like Miami, down in Miami, their overtime rate for like bars and gigs they work down there is like a buck fifty an hour. Dude, they're making a ton of money and that's paid by the vendors. So it's maybe not coming out of the city budget. But the way they made it sound like that article is deceiving. It doesn't say how they made it. Okay, like if you, if you smoke the, the local businesses for. You work every day. I mean, I don't, I don't. What's the problem? Everybody else gets the opportunity. But if you're claiming to be at work enough to make 200 grand in overtime, you probably never went home. I don't know how you went home.

[Justin]

What's this thing about this disabled.

[The Glue]

How did you go home?

[Justin]

What's this disabled dude getting left.

[The Glue]

Crazy story. Yeah, this is. Let's read about that. That's. That's a tough one. This doesn't seem like a very good cop. So this is in that. Be it. Disabled? Yeah, it is. All right, let me scroll back down. Okay. To screen. So this is in disabled amputee and veteran amputee left on dark road in Hinesville over insurance. So this is in Georgia. A disabled veteran and her amputee husband were stand stranded on a dark highway in the early morning of April 27 after getting pulled over.

[Justin]

Timeout. They make the headline sound like it's a disabled amputee veteran, but it's a

[The Glue]

disabled veteran and her amputee husband.

[Justin]

Okay, I like it so far.

[The Glue]

The U.S. deborah Sims, retired U. S. Army veteran, former law enforcement professional and her husband Bobby Sim, 75, is a below the knee amputee and has not walked in two years. They were driving home on Highway 196 around 2:37am When Officer Todd parameter stopped the vehicle. He told the couple that database showed the vehicle had no active insurance coverage. Deborah Sims says immediately attempted to show the officer her proof of ussa. Even better, she has USAA both on her phone and through her vehicle registration. But the officer refused to review either. He just left us out there on the side of the road like we were a bag of trash. After issuing a citation, he called for a tow truck and instructed the couple to exit the vehicle. She says that the office she was told her and her husband had. He had not walked in two years and only had one leg. He. He helped Bobby get out of the car so it's not like he didn't know and told my husband who hadn't walked in two years. He only has one leg and he's missing toes on the other. So he cannot walk and I'm definitely not going to be able to push him out of here. The officer then drove away, leaving the couple on the side of the road at approximately 3am they said the temperature was around 54 degrees and neither was dressed for the cold. Having returned from a weekend trip in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, when Deborah Sims asked how they would get home, he said call somebody or catch an Uber. USA confirmed the couple's insurance was indeed active at the time of the traffic stop. Georgia Post said the officer standings are looking into it and they will release more information on the incident. Have discretion in many circumstances, agency policies generally dictate appropriate officer conduct. Ethical conduct includes exercising due regard for well being of those interacting with officers and compassionate when handling circumcised circumcises. You like that? Circumcised circumcision. I'm talking. That was real good slip up. So Cheese spread says he should have had legs. Should have had legs, buddy.

[Justin]

Is it a trooper?

[The Glue]

No, it's a Huntsville police officer. So obviously that's one side of the story. Let's not, let's not, let's give him a leg to stand on here. And maybe he, maybe it's fabricated, but can you imagine ever leaving an old couple on the side of the road because of 74? 74.

[Justin]

Oh, there's. There are 74.

[The Glue]

You didn't. I know you weren't listening. You were.

[Justin]

No, I didn't hear that part.

[The Glue]

Yeah, there was 74 years old.

[Justin]

I was just sitting here thinking like, thank God they didn't have a MacBook, right?

[The Glue]

Oh, yeah, arrest them. 71 and 75. Can you imagine leaving a 71 and a 75 year old people person? No, there's. On the side of the road with one leg.

[Justin]

There's no excuse for that. There's no excuse that. There's also. No, let's. Let's go backwards in time to the thing. Never. First off, in the state of Florida, is it a. It's a ticketable offense to not have proof of virgin. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah.

[The Glue]

He's saying he couldn't verify they had it at all. Which is.

[Justin]

He has USAA app. That's, that's a load of. I have that app. And if USAA is saying that at the time they had it, they were good, then that cop made a very, very Bad judgment call.

[The Glue]

What you do there is you should let them go and then you could follow up and then if you call the USAA and confirm they lied to you, then you get a warrant for no insurance. And you could do that other old

[Justin]

army bats like, yes, you can't let.

[The Glue]

I. I get the. So the insurance thing having been involved in family relatives involved in crashes, the last thing you need is to get T boned by one leg Willie. And then you get up and then you find out he doesn't have insurance and your insurance is only covering you for 25 grand. So I get the importance of insurance. But.

[Justin]

But what's so hard about looking at the USAA app?

[The Glue]

There's not.

[Justin]

There's no.

[The Glue]

I could see not taking the paper because you could have a paper that's says you have insurance from five months ago and it's expired. But in today's world of insurance, you can look up.

[Justin]

Do you know how many times I've let people text people, mom, can you send me insurance? Babe, can you send me the. If I got pulled over right now most if I didn't have the usa so insurance is bad, but there's tons of things where I'd be like, hold on, I gotta text my wife. Like, send me the screenshot of this. We just gotta, you know.

[The Glue]

And yeah, well, I have State Farm and I easily can just pull the insurance card up on my phone. It's pretty much 20, 26. Everybody has an app on their phone. Maybe 75 you don't. But they said they did. So if you also say USAA and again it's not. You know what it's. At the end of the day, it's their responsibility to carry insurance. Now he. I'm being a hero. I want to make sure no unregistered via or uninsured vehicle goes down. I I get that but when you can look it up on the. On the app and go yep, it shows active just as good as your database. Right. And I know how many. How many. I don't know how you. But I used to set my LPR when I was a. I used to watch flock. I would set it for no insurance and no and suspended driver's license. I cannot tell you how many times that the state made the error by suspending somebody's license for no insurance when it was something stupid like they sold a vehicle or they.

[Justin]

Well, here's what very, very common is that I would pull over people whose insurance who license was suspended. You can tell after you've been doing it for a while. You can tell who doesn't know and who does. Just buy this by just by going, did you know your license is suspended one minute?

[The Glue]

Yep.

[Justin]

Within, yeah, seconds, they go. Their reaction tells you they know or not. And when they don't really know, you can usually go, you do you live at this address? And like, no, I live in another address. Which it is on them to change their address with the DMV when you so it. So when the DMV sends you a letter saying your license is about to be suspended, it is on the driver to update it. So they don't really, as far as the eyes of the law go, they don't get a pass. But when you in Florida, if you get another insurance, like let's say I have USA right now. And I'm like, oh, Progressive has a better deal. And I go, and I get Progressive it. Progressive says they promise they will tell USAA you're with them now if they fail to do so and you don't notify usaa, USAA goes, well, Tyler dropped us. And according to us, Tyler doesn't have insurance anymore. And they report you to the dmv and your DMV will send you a letter saying you're about to be suspended. But if you don't get that letter, they'll suspend your driver's license.

[The Glue]

Another common one is older people especially will sell a car and they'll throw the tag on their, on their garage. If you don't take that tag back to DMV and go, I don't have this car anymore. They're going to go, oh, oh, Tyler canceled his insurance on his, his vehicle and it's been more than 30 days. His license is suspended because there's a car out there now that he's drive in that doesn't have insurance on it. So you have to go surrender your tag. So I can't tell you how many old people. I'm like, hey, did you sell a car recently? Yeah, I sold my car to my granddaughter last week and she put a new tag on it. Where's your tag? Oh, I threw it in the garage. You have to turn it in. And it's like, oh, I didn't know that. Well, yeah.

[Justin]

And those people go, hold on, hold on, babe. Remember that tag that's in the garage? And you can hear on the other line the woman's screaming at him, I told you to take.

[The Glue]

Oh, yeah. He's trying to like, yeah, my license is suspended. Oh my God. And it's like,

[Justin]

yeah, people that I can't defend that cop at all. I just can't.

[The Glue]

No, you just gotta have common sense, and you gotta, like, old. There's not even a suspended license, dude. Like, the same scenario. Let's say their license is suspended. I'm gonna put them in the car, and I'm gonna take them home. Or I'm gonna be like, hey, how far is your house? Yeah, three miles. Drive your car home. If I see you driving again, you're going to jail.

[Justin]

Here's the one we don't. We don't talk about a lot in the state of Florida. I'm assuming it's kind of like that in every other state. If your driver's license is suspended and you knowingly keep that driver's license, that's illegal. So what we're obligated to do as law enforcement officers is not aid and abed you in make committing a crime. So if you give us a driver's license, you're like, hey, this is my driver's license. And I go, oh, it's suspended. I'm supposed to keep that. Technically cut it up. But if you're. If you're trying to get your life situated and you just got pulled over driving suspended, and I can tell that you are going to work, you know, I can look things up saying you are paying, things you can articulate to me without me having to dig how you're getting it squared away. I'm gonna go take your driver's license now. Yeah, like, I would just be like, you know, hey, you're not supposed to have this. Another thing, too, is they wanted us to take tags off of cars.

[The Glue]

Oh, yeah.

[Justin]

They're suspended. And I just would never do that either. I, I. And we saw. We actually watched a video, I think, where somebody was like, it was. It was the chick that acted a fool. So. But in the same sense, she. The one point she had before she was pulled out and arrested was, so what, you're just gonna tell me to drive down the road with no license plate? I mean, yeah. Or you sit here.

[The Glue]

Well, yeah, it's. It's. It's a tough one, dude. You got to use common sense. You got to use common sense.

[Justin]

Do you?

[The Glue]

And you should know it, and this guy should know it.

[Justin]

It's like, can you imagine that, Sarge? Yeah, I left him on the side of the road.

[The Glue]

I arrested. I remember getting in trouble. Like, I got yelled at, and then I cleared it up. I had a lady that was like, it sounds bad. So when I say start this story, it Sounds bad. She was almost 80 and I rested her. She was at Dillard, she was completely healthy, could run, sing and dance. She was a very savvy, like 78 year old lady. She was in Dillard's and stole all kinds of put in her purse. They walked up to her and said, ma', am, we saw you steal like everything. Go put it back. She's like, oh, sorry. She goes, puts it back, stays in the store and steals everything again and then leaves. And I get there, they call and I get there. He has like $3,000 in cash in her purse and all this. And I'm like, you're going to jail. She's like, oh, an nt. I'm like, no. I'm like, you got caught stealing. I got the whole video you got cost you on an hour ago. They let you put it all back. You went back and did it again. So I arrested. I remember when the booking, when the report came through, my sergeant called me screaming at me and I'm like, nah, dog. Like, this is what happened. Then he saw it and he's like, oh, okay. He's like, I see what you did. I'm like, yeah. I'm like that old bat. Like, you know, you don't get to do that twice. Like, what am I going to give her an nta? She comes back an hour later, does again. Like, there has to be some consequences to this. So it's like. But I have the most sympathy for like people with suspended licenses that are trying to work hard. Same thing. Hey man, I'm supposed to take you. It's actually a crime like you said, to pass your license off when it's suspended separately from driving. If you just hand it to me on a, on a walking encounter, you hand me a suspended driver's license and I'm like, hey, you're suspended. They're like, yeah, no, that's a crime in itself. Just displaying it. So it's like, but to leave somebody on the side of the road stranded and that's. Dude.

[Justin]

All right, that does it. For today's episode. If you. We are going to switch over in about 10 minutes to the Patreon portion of the episode. If you haven't joined Patreon and you want to. Every tier gets to watch the second hour where we're gonna talk. Lewis, Rob o' Neill apps. All kinds of good stuff. So we'll see you in about 10 minutes. Jv team for life.