$G MONEY$ and HuckFinnBarbell (04/01/2026)

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast — “$G MONEY$ and HuckFinnBarbell” (04/01/2026)

Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Date: April 1, 2026
Theme: News and no-bullshit longform entertainment for veterans, first responders, and blue collar America — featuring a deep dive into police culture, the Tiger King’s legal battle, and a raucous, uniquely American interview with lifter/entrepreneur Huck Finn Barbell.

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Episode Overview

This episode combines irreverent humor, sharp takes on law enforcement and criminal justice issues, and colorful blue-collar storytelling. The hosts reflect on the Antihero Network’s growth, controversial fan interactions, and lead into two big guests:

• “G Money” aka Nick Jurassi (ex-Philly cop; network regular), who delivers a jailhouse interview with “Tiger King” Joe Exotic and discusses his own police origins.
• Thomas “Huck Finn Barbell” Finn, a viral fitness personality and master storyteller, who’s on to be inducted as the first living member of the “All American Man Hall of Fame.”

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Key Segments, Topics, and Insights

1. Podcast & Patreon Philosophy (00:25-03:50)

• The hosts discuss the real meaning of Patreon (“brought to you by the patrons, not a sponsor!”), their focus on authentic, two-way interaction, and how the show is made for and by its working-class audience.
  • “Our Patreon is where we interact... that's what it's for ...it's not sponsored” (Host, 03:08).
• Memorable Quote:

  “Some guys are all about the money, man.... but at some point, something for the people.”
  — Co-host (03:38)

Timestamps:

• Patreon philosophy: 02:14–03:50

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2. Audience Feedback & Law Enforcement Discourse (04:40-10:53)

• The show addresses recent heated comments on their videos discussing London, ballistics, and the “Charlie Kirk assassination” case.

• Nick the Gun Guy argues right-leaning online audiences can be just as dismissive/personal as the left.

  • “We [conservatives] should be better than the left... but all these people... just personally attack me. I’m a stupid ass. This dumbass doesn’t know what he’s doing.” — Nick (06:21)

• The co-hosts detail why media and audiences misunderstand how ballistics/forensics affect criminal trials, emphasizing the defense's ability to “spin” and the difficulty for investigators.

  • “The prosecution and the cops have to stay on facts... the other half gets to lie, make up stuff, say whatever they want.” — Co-host (10:14)

Timestamps:

• Online backlash: 06:12-11:18
• Forensic/legal debates: 07:34-10:53

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3. Joe Exotic ("Tiger King") Jailhouse Interview (13:03-27:58)

Special Segment: Full Jailhouse Interview — See “Notable Quotes” section for most impactful exchanges

• Why now? Supreme Court has denied Joe Exotic’s appeal, despite their key witness recanting.

• Joe shares his experiences with solitary confinement, lack of legal resources, health, and his ongoing clemency appeal to Trump.

• Describes systemic corruption in the justice system, emphasizing his innocence on animal cruelty charges and the injustices of his trial.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “They basically kidnapped me... held me without bond. Jesus Christ. People that murder people get bond!” (Joe, 14:39)
  • “I prayed to God my heart would stop.” (Joe, 16:04)
  • “I didn’t do what they said I did... Never been accused, never been charged of animal cruelty.” (Joe, 23:55)
  • “If [Trump] would just sign my clemency and let me out... I think I can make it the rest of my life being a felon, you know what I'm saying?” (Joe, 17:52)
  • “All the conviction stands on admits to perjury... and you’re still sitting in prison. It’s an affront to justice.” (Interviewer, 20:46)
  • “Everybody get on pardonjoeexotic.com and sign my petition to President Trump because numbers count.” (Joe, 27:22)

• After the interview, the hosts reflect on the Tiger King cultural phenomenon (esp. during COVID), its role in blue-collar entertainment, and the implications for criminal justice.

  • “He got a lot of people through COVID, that guy.” (Nick, 28:01)
  • “This is for everybody... anything to do with everyday American hardworking dudes, man, that’s what this network is for.” (Co-host, 29:31)

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4. Debrief & Blue-Collar Culture - Police Work, Retirement, and Justice (29:39-55:12)

• The hosts discuss the Tiger King case as a microcosm for broader justice issues (“What if it’s one of us?”—Nick, 30:02).
• Segue into discussion of their audience (not just vets/cops, but construction, machine shop workers — “shop talk for the floor”).
• Deep-dive on cop culture: Nick recounts his Philadelphia PD upbringing and years on the job, gritty stories about shootings, undercover operations, the “pink bunny” legend, and his family’s cop legacy.
  • “I was in a shooting... And you know what, man? I'm glad I killed a 1990 Toyota Camry. Didn't kill him. He was crazier than a rat.” (Nick, 41:22)
• Hard truths on police retirement:
  • The financial realities—most cops will need second careers, and advice to have an exit strategy, save/invest, and not stay in a job you hate for the "prestige" of 20 years.
  • “If you're going to do it 'til you're like 60 or 65, you don’t want to push... Find something you can do and sustain, because the day's coming where... it’s your turn and you might not have any income.” — Co-host (54:18)

Timestamps:

• Blue-collar American network: 29:31–30:02
• Nick's Philly cop stories: 35:40–47:35
• Police retirement/exit strategy: 47:39–55:12

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5. Guest: Huck Finn Barbell (Thomas Finn) — The First “All American Man Hall of Fame” Inductee (66:18 onward)

Introduction (“America’s most American man”)

• Huck enters shotgunning a beer; explains his “life’s philosophy”:
  • “I would never, ever stop drinking beer. You’d have to throw the goddamn dirt on me for me to stop.” — Huck, 67:29
  • “I eat like a bodybuilder, drink like an alcoholic, fuck like a porn star, and train like a powerlifter.” — Huck, 67:56

All American Hall of Fame Ceremony

• Hosts induct Huck as the first living all-American for embodying unapologetic blue-collar values and epic gym stunts.
• Huck’s acceptance speech roasts LA fitness culture and bigs up 'hillbillies':
  • “All you California sweat hogs out there can suck my blue collar... The only people I’m thanking for this award are the young hillbillies out there. They're the real Americans... I shotgun beer at 10am.” (71:09)

Viral Videos, Brand, Barbell Culture

• Huck tells the origin of his signature stunts (benching 225lbs in a boat, fireworks blazing, etc.)
• Attacks “Young LA” for “promoting pussification of America,” vows to build the “Young Hillbilly” alternative.
  • “If I had the goddamn booth, I'd have fucking pickup trucks, ugly ass strippers, a full bar... this is not that.” (73:18)
  • “I'm gonna change something in this world right now, it's gonna be the youth of America... I'm gonna make 'em young hillbillies and real men.” (74:29)
• The “21 Beer Salute”: viral Arnold Classic meet-and-greet with 21 beers, massive crowd, and cop/fan support.
• Bold plans for July 4th: wing-walking on an airplane, drinking beer, maybe even lifting weights midair.

Personal Stories — Grit, Humor, Family

• Grew up lifting with his dad (“Build the chest, the rest!”)
• Severed his pinky in a freak accident, keeps it in a jar, drinks Wild Turkey with it on Thanksgiving (“My dad swallowed it two years ago.”)
  • “You couldn't hold my goddamn dead pinky.” (90:39)
• Found love at a country music festival, literally on a garbage couch.
• Fails out of college with a 15 ACT, but pivots to entrepreneurship after powerlifting injuries derail a WWE dream.
  • “Little did I know, the best was yet to come. I invented Huck Finn Barbell... The way I live my life is just on screen now with social media.” (93:35)
• Makes apparel with the help of wife (“Mrs. Barbell”), leveraging viral moments and blue-collar humor.

Philosophy: Realness, Anti-Censorship, and DIY Ethos

• Hates corporate/sponsored content constraints:
  • “You can't reel me in... If you give a fuck what I say, we’re not gonna get along.” (111:44)
• Emphasizes the success of organic, unapologetic “American” branding — not for everyone, but the right people get it.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“I eat like a bodybuilder, drink like an alcoholic, fuck like a porn star, and train like a powerlifter.”
— Huck Finn Barbell (67:56)

“All you California sweat hogs... can suck my blue collar.”
— Huck Finn Barbell (71:09)

“You couldn't hold my goddamn dead pinky.”
— Huck Finn Barbell (90:39)

“If [Trump] would just sign my clemency and let me out... I think I can make it the rest of my life being a felon.”
— Joe Exotic (17:52)

“Police culture... they're the most jealous people in the world, man. They really are.”
— Nick the Gun Guy (47:35)

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Timeline / Timestamps for Key Segments

• Patreon, show philosophy: 02:14–03:50
• Comments & online culture: 06:12–11:18
• Ballistics & trials: 07:34–10:53
• Joe Exotic interview: 13:03–27:58
• Tiger King impact/justice system debrief: 28:01–31:25
• Nick’s police origin story: 35:40–47:35
• Retirement/prep advice for cops: 47:39–55:12
• Introduction of Huck Finn Barbell: 66:18 onward
• "All American Man Hall of Fame" induction: 70:00–72:03
• Young LA/Young Hillbilly rants: 73:18–74:32
• 21 Beer Salute/Arnold Classic: 75:26–76:46
• Pinky-in-a-jar story: 86:08–88:35
• Brand-building stories: 101:21–108:54

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Recurring Tone and Style

• Irreverent, working-class humor; no-nonsense, anti-elitist and anti-censorship
• Blend of honest, sometimes salty shop talk and surprisingly serious advice about police work, finances, mental health
• Celebration of blue collar and American “anti-hero” values — grit, fun, family, realness, and self-reliance

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Useful For...

• Listeners wanting behind-the-scenes stories from cops, veterans, or blue-collar Americans
• Fitness fans who love viral personalities, gym humor, and "lifestyle branding" stories
• Anyone curious about the realities of modern American law enforcement, criminal justice, and the “Tiger King” saga
• Entrepreneurs and creators who want lessons in authenticity, risk-taking, and DIY “bootstrapping” success

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Closing

Summary:
This episode is a wild, honest, and entertaining ride into the mind of the American blue-collar anti-hero — part police confession, part viral stunts, part hard-earned life advice. Whether you’re a cop, veteran, lifter, or someone who just wants to hear a grown man keep his pinky in a jar and drink to it, this episode’s got you covered.

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For more:

• HuckFinnBarbell.com
• Join the Antihero Network Patreon for “shop talk” after-hours
• Remember: “Build the chest, the rest!”

Transcript

[Interviewer]

Sa.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

For life.

[Host]

Good morning. It's Wednesday, Friends Day, April 1, 2026. The anti air broadcast is the news entertainment broadcast for veterans, first responders and all blue collar Americans. The show is of course brought to you by [e-mail] forward/anti air. Save 10 on their already ridiculous low prices, pillowcases, mattress toppers, cooling patented technology sheets, their award winning mattresses 60, 000 five star rating and reviews in house, customer service, free shipping and returns. So if you got to replace anything in the bedroom, if you go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero, it'll save you 10 and it'll tell them that we sent you, which is really important. And elevated silence. Go to elevated silence.com and use promo code ANTIRE15 and say 15 on your can. Everything from 22s to 50 cows exercise your second amendment right. Get yourself a suppressor. The process is not that difficult and Jim will walk you through it. Go to elevated silence.com and use promo code ANTIHERO15SAVE15. Boy. Sorry I'm late, man. I. I was looking for a particular sticker, but I found the old box of Copville stickers that Mike brought when he first came for. When you first. Dude, you have so many stickers and patches back there. No, no, no, no, no. This was the OG one. Before you were like. When you started coming around, you were like, hey man, here's a big sticker package.

[Co-host]

Oh, cool.

[Host]

Now that cool, man. I'm definitely gonna use all 1,000 of these stickers, Mike. Thank you so much. Did I bring that many? Yeah, I have them all. Good.

[Co-host]

We'll send them out to people.

[Host]

I got an OG Jerry Worms card. I might get signed for myself.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I just ordered 250 more of the Copville logo and the logo in like reflective for bringing up to Myrtle Beach.

[Host]

Nice. Of course, if you guys haven't already, please join our Patreon. Different style tiers. All paid members get to go to Patreon Tuesday, which is the second hour of the show. Patreon only exclusively to Patreon. I. I saw, I saw. I was watching something because I needed to do some research and I saw that a certain podcast does their Patreon brought to you by a sponsor. And I was like, that is the difference between someone who thinks one way and someone look who thinks another. Because Patreon's brought to you by, guess who? The patrons that pay to be there, they pay you to have a Patreon. That's who it's brought by.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

And it blew my mind. I was like, oh, and please support our Patreon brought to you by, like. So it's a. You're welcome for our Patreon. Like, no, dude, that's not.

[Co-host]

I'd be interested to know how much interaction goes on in that Patreon as well. Like, real interaction, which is my. Again, our thought of it is that's where we interact. I was in there last night for about an hour going at it with the. The OG Council, just, you know, shooting the. Talking about. Funny, you know, that. That's, to me, what it's for. It's for. Obviously, they get a huge discount, but it's. It's not sponsored. Like, they're already paying because they're.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

They're helping us out.

[Co-host]

So it's like, why would my sponsor has a sponsor that has a sponsor?

[Host]

They're like, some guys are all about the money, man.

[Co-host]

Like, I get. Income is important that, you know, you can't do it for free. But at some point, something for the people.

[Host]

And I also saw one of our sponsors shared a post. And I said, hey, were you tagged by a certain female? And. And told to. And asked to share this post? And they were like, yeah. And I was like, they're like, no, it's all good. I'll do. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not judging. That's totally fine. Your company's. Your company. But my thought was that the podcast post the sponsors. Not the sponsors post the podcast. And he was like, yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. It's like, man, there's just no shame in people's games nowadays.

[Co-host]

But not my. How does it go? Not my clowns. Not my circus, not my. Do whatever it is. Like, let them do what they want, man.

[Host]

Yeah. Did they mute G Money? No. G Money's got a big surprise for y'.

[Co-host]

All.

[Host]

We've got a hell of a show, though. We've got. Obviously, we got the origins of G Money. Who is the most American man in America? If you've been following for a long time, you probably do know who Nick Jurassi is, but he's since become a major contributor to this network, major contributor to the broadcast. And I want everybody to kind of know who's behind the cowboy hat and diamonds in America black shirt. And then at noon, we have

[Co-host]

Huck

[Host]

Finn Barbell, AKA Thomas Finn, the dude that Nick brought or not brought. He brought the video of the guy from years ago during COVID bench pressing with 315, shoulder pressing it in A boat while he shoved gears. Yep. Nick the gun guy, who's a huge supporter, part of the 99. You guys know him. He put us in contact with, with Huck Finn. So he's going to be joining us at around noon and super excited for that. But we got some reflections. We've got some reflections. First off, Nick's video talking about London and Mike's video talk. Well, I said I shouldn't put, I'm putting it on them like it's their fault. The video I put out, mainly Nick talking about London and Mike talking about Charlie Kirk assassinations. Man, this comments were a wee bit heated.

[Co-host]

I didn't, I wouldn't notice because I don't go look.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, either do I.

[Host]

I seen Nick. I've seen you in there commenting back and forth, calling people stupid.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I'll stir a pot a little bit. Oh, they are stupid. So here's, here's the thing, right? We are the right. Whether you're middle, middle, right, right, we should be better than the left. What the left does is they criticize, they personally attack you and they have nothing constructive to say. So all these people that say they're conservatives or they're Republicans or they're on the right will come in the comments because I have an opinion and just personally start attacking me. I'm a stupid ass. This dumbass doesn't know what he's do. He's aligned with Israel. Like I'm some kind of big podcaster, you know what I mean? That sways the opinions of people. Like I'm aligned with anybody. The out of here.

[Host]

Yeah, they all think that we're getting checks, Big, massive checks cut from Israel when you just kind of use common sense. And that kind of goes to Mike's thing. I, I fullheartedly agree with that. And I was the one that was saying, unfortunately, it's just not what America wants to hear. It's like if they told you aliens aren't real and they proved to you aliens aren't real. It was, it was our craft the whole time, since the 1940s. It's. They're not. If they said that, there's no way anybody would go, I believe that.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, nobody was smoking anybody.

[Co-host]

I got hammered because of, like, I'm not a redneck or a sniper. Like, I don't give a. About bullets, what they do when they leave the gun. How Peach, even Peach was messaged me. He was like, you're all wrong. This bullet tumbles at this. Like, I'm like, bro, I don't give A dude. What I was trying to explain was how bullets break apart in homicides I've worked. Yeah, I've never worked a homicide with, like, a sniper shot from 400 yards. But I got the brief few comments I saw were all like, this guy, a.308 does this. It comes out. It doesn't. I'm like, my bad. Like, I don't care. Nor do I know I'm not gonna shoot a animal. They were like, oh, if it hits a moose's spine, it's this distance. Like, I'm never gonna shoot a moose. I don't give a. What it does. I was trying to say that obviously, if bullets break apart and there are pieces of them that can be difficult to match up, what this bullet did, I don't know. I don't care. Like, I. I was trying to give a generalized synopsis of the homicides that worked and how that is factored. But I surely got roasted for not knowing what a.308 does when it hits somebody.

[Host]

Like, well, I mean, that is ballistic talk. And to be fair, unless you're talking to a ballistics expert, that's also people's opinion and experience. What we were saying was, is the fact that no matter what you want to believe, this is really not going to have that big of an impact on this case. Anything. Charlie Kirk's assassination is going to be a headline. They could have been like, never mind. I won't say something, but it's kind of is a joke, and I don't want to make light of it, but it's. It's not going to sway. If there was a regular ass murder in the street and everybody was like, yeah, pretty sure John Tavius just shot Jamal. We've got three witnesses. We've got surveillance footage of John Tavius running. We found the gun that was used, but the bullet doesn't exactly match the barrel. That's kind of like saying, well, John Tavius didn't admit to it under oath. He. He didn't just admit to it. So we're going to keep pushing forward because we're pretty sure John Tavius did it. We got a lot of probable cause. So the bullet not exactly matching the barrel, although, would be a nice slam dunk for the case, does not mean really anything in the defense for Tyler Robinson.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Am I wrong?

[Host]

No.

[Co-host]

You'll have experts come in on both sides, and you'll have an expert say that. Exactly what you said. It doesn't matter. This is why it wouldn't matter. And then you'll have a Defense expert come in and say, of course it matters.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

This is.

[Co-host]

It means he's innocent. Like that's going to go on no matter what. So that it's not. It's not the. I mean, hell, we've. We've proven cases without the gun and out the ballistics. It still happens.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

It just.

[Co-host]

It gives some collusion for the defense to make the argument that it's all made up or conspiracy, which that is all their job has to be like they don't have to tell the truth. So it's a big. It is a big thing for the defense. In the world of the case, it's not. But for the defense, that's just one more way to go. We don't have to tell you who did it, but my guy didn't do it. Hell, it could have been anybody that did it. This is a conspiracy. They can spin that jury any way they want. Where the prosecution and the cops have to stay on facts, which is a big problem in the justice system anyway that one half gets to lie, make up stuff and say whatever they want. The other half has to be like so strict they can't make one mistake or the case is a mistrial.

[Host]

Yeah. So that's that. That's what we're saying. There's tons of comments or I've noticed there's a lot of hatred on Instagram. And I think that the fact I always tell everybody like, man, there's a lot of negativity. I'm like, it all is serving its purpose. It's exposure. We're not gonna. We're not gonna convince people that come into those comments otherwise there's more hide

[Nick the Gun Guy]

behind a fake account anyway. So I go in there, drop some knowledge and bounce. I don't even look at the comments. I don't give a about some hide behind an anonymous account.

[Host]

So before we get to know G Money AKA Nick Jurassi, Nick's got a huge surprise for everybody. Oh, you want to take it from here, Nick? It's not as wiener.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Ah, damn. I was gonna pull my dick out. Not embarrassed of that. So quick update Mike on the cell oldrati case is the continued I believe the prosecution is looking subpoena some files. So it'll be a new date in June looking at for a trial in the fall. No, I don't have herpes.

[Host]

Let me hear that.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I'm not the one that wears a romper CC that that case is again

[Co-host]

it's that that goes into what I just said. They have a defense, their defense use A force expert shot an unarmed black guy in his lifetime. Like, he has been involved in other cases that are horrific, but now he's an expert for the, for the, the prosecutor as to why Sal's case is bad. And he's written some wild things. So it's, it's, it's another fiasco. Man, I feel terrible for the guy. You look at Miami, you know, like, look at Miami. Look at Miami. Black female, Pow, pow. Right in the back. Nothing, right? Sal shoots a guy with a gun in his hand. It's bringing it up. And he gets charged with murder. Like, there's just, there's your, there's your whole new worlds, like two different planets.

[Host]

All right, well, now we'll try to talk about.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

We got it teed up.

[Host]

Yeah, see it up. But I wanted to preface it. There's a lot going on.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

So Monday, the Supreme court denied Joe Maldonado, AKA The Tiger King, AKA Joe Exotic, a new appeal to a. To a new trial because he's getting royal, royally over.

[Host]

The.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The prosecution, star witness and everything that the case and the conviction stood on admitted under affidavit that he lied and perjured himself on the major evidence that convicted Tiger King of hiring a hitman and kill Carol Baskin. Carol Baskin. So I had the pleasure of interviewing the Tiger King today. Had a 14 minute conversation from the prison he's in. Got it teed up?

[Host]

Yeah. You guys ready?

[Interviewer]

Court decision on Monday. Let me ask you, where did you first hear the news and what was your immediate reaction to it when they found out?

[Joe Exotic]

Well, you know, I was expecting it because everybody, you know, tells you, especially lawyers tell you that, you know, they. They file 8 to 10,000 cases and they only hear 1% of them. And it seems like all they ever hear is political stuff like they're doing today with this birthright citizenship stuff, you know?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Joe Exotic]

You know, first I heard about. I was watching the news and saw it on Facebook, Fox yesterday.

[Interviewer]

Oh, so that's got to be a gut punch. You're just sitting around watching tv.

[Joe Exotic]

It is in a way. It is in a way. But, you know, the, the whole thing, Nick, about this whole deal is, you know, they. They basically kidnapped me in order to pull this off because they arrested me and they held me without bond. Jesus Christ. People that murder people get bond. You know, they help me with that bond. They kept me in solitary conf. Assignment the entire two years of my trial. Hold on, hold on.

[Interviewer]

You're in solitary for two years?

[Joe Exotic]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

Isolation by yourself.

[Joe Exotic]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

How many hours were you allowed outside of the cell?

[Joe Exotic]

I was in a shithole place called Grady County Jail that had a federal contract outside of Oklahoma City and Chickasha, Oklahoma. And you know, by law, they're supposed to let you out an hour a day. Yeah. You. You'd be lucky if you got out an hour every six, seven days, Joe.

[Interviewer]

So you're telling me that you're kept in isolation for two years and you're only getting an hour outside of that jail every. Every five or six days?

[Joe Exotic]

Absolutely. And then after. And then after they transfer me to federal prison, I spent my. My first 89 days in solitary by myself without ever getting out here.

[Interviewer]

That's a disgrace. That's torture.

[Joe Exotic]

Dude, let me tell you. I laid there every day praying to God my heart would stop.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God. How are you mentally right now? Because of this.

[Joe Exotic]

I know. You know, it. It's it, your head up. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna disagree, you know, because.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Joe Exotic]

You can watch. You can watch a movie and the emotions just kick in without even. Even being able to stop it. But, you know, back to. Back to what they did to me and why I can't win an appeal is, you know, they held me with that bond. They kept me in solitary confinement. I couldn't work to get real lawyers. I could. I had no money, you know, I. I couldn't work, get out to. To work so I can hire a lawyer and help find evidence and put my case.

[Host]

This call is from a federal prison,

[Joe Exotic]

so I had to rely on federal prostrate public defenders. And my public defenders. Well, my public defenders didn't preserve the motions. Right. So every appeal that I filed all goes back to, oh, well, you didn't do this during trial. Well, you know, that's the government's impression.

[Interviewer]

Employees.

[Joe Exotic]

That's not my fault.

[Interviewer]

Right, right. And now let me. I want to get to that. I'll touch on that in a few minutes. I know we're pressed for time, so as we're discussing, this is probably your last legal shot for overturning the conviction. So what are your feelings about that and where do you think you go from here?

[Joe Exotic]

Well, you know, I. I have a clemency application on file at the White House. They've contacted the prison as far as an update on, you know, my program and shit like that, so they're at least looking at it. And then, you know, I. I put Peter Ticket, Trump's lawyer is now on my legal team.

[Interviewer]

Fantastic.

[Joe Exotic]

I'm really praying to God That President Trump will make this right, because especially, you know, I've never seen the popularity out in the free world, but, you know, every letter that I get, everybody says, you know, you, you got me through cover. You, you brought the world together through Kobe. President Trump could really use some of that positive press right now if he would just sign my clemency and let me out. You know, I'm not even asking for a pardon. You know, my President is a 34 time felon. I. I think I can make it the rest of my life being a felon. You know what I'm saying?

[Interviewer]

I think you'll be all right when you get out. I'll tell you what, you are loved. You have a lot of fans, and I was one of those people you helped get through Covid. It was great.

[Joe Exotic]

I sure wish he would give me some consideration and let me out, but, you know, if he doesn't, I got four more years. And let me tell you, I've done the hardest date, so four more years, I'll be done with this.

[Interviewer]

Anyway, I have a feeling he's a fair guy. And I think looking at your circumstances and, you know, it's disgraceful that their key witness, which the whole conviction stands on, admits to perjury. So, I mean, you always isn't that

[Joe Exotic]

crazy and not even admit to just perjury. He admitted it. I was the target to be killed to start with.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, that's. That's disgusting. And yeah, I know he went under oath and, and even said that the money he was allegedly paid to, you know, be hired to kill Carol Baskins was actually money he stole from you when he, you know, he himself quit and left to go work for Jeff Lowe, so. And he did that under oath in an affidavit, which I don't know if people understand that, you know, that's not just him going on a podcast and saying something. He went under oath. I mean, there's consequences to that.

[Joe Exotic]

Well, then he went on world television in season two and even showed him where he hid the murder weapon and how they were going to kill me. How do you do that and get away with it? How do you do that? Nobody cares.

[Interviewer]

And you're still sitting here. So that's one of my problems. The feds are like their own mafia. You know, there's a side of them, the law enforcement arm, and it's not, it's not all of them. It's a select group that can just do whatever hell they want. And they set people up. I watch them do it. With, with cops that they want to go after who are innocent. They leaned on them. You know, Italians with. Because their names end in a vow, they go after federal prison.

[Joe Exotic]

But why? What. What are they benefiting from this?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's, you know, it's. Somebody gets to make a name for themselves and move up in. In the ranks is what I think. You know what I mean?

[Joe Exotic]

Well, I know my, my prosecutor, my assistant district attorney became a judge a month after she convicted me.

[Interviewer]

There you go. There's always something in it for people with a big name and to put a feather in their cap and move forward. I think it's disgusting. Especially in your case when the key witness whose entire, their entire trial conviction stands on admits to the key evidence to lying and committing perjury, and you're still sitting in prison. It's an affront to justice.

[Joe Exotic]

I don't get it. I really don't. You know where, where are you located, Nick?

[Interviewer]

I'm in Philly.

[Joe Exotic]

Philadelphia.

[Interviewer]

Yes, sir. So I got a podcast, a Good Cop, Bad cop podcast. And then I'm also part of the Anti Hero Broadcasting Network where this will be played. They are law enforcement and military themed, you know, podcast and network. They have a lot of shows that helps the mental health for cops and first responders and military vets. They're kind of like the barstool of sports for the military world. And they're going to be really big. They already have over 150,000 subscribers. Gets millions of views monthly. You know, it's a fantastic group of guys and, you know, we're pulling for you. You know, we, especially as cops, we don't want to see innocent people locked up. And it's, it's disgusting what's going on with your case.

[Joe Exotic]

You know, it's. It's crazy. You know, I was a police chief at the age of 19 years old.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Joe Exotic]

Never had a speeding ticket. And then this happens to me at age 55. And, you know, they started me with two points. Like, I have already been a criminal at. Which added four years. And I'm like, I've never even had a speeding ticket and you start me as a career criminal.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, everything with your case just doesn't make sense. Again, I hate to beat a dead horse, but their key witness and the key conviction was all done on a lie. I mean, you should, you should have a new trial. At the very least, it should be thrown out.

[Joe Exotic]

Do it. Thanks. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So let me. Yeah, I know you're going through serious health issues. I'm sorry to hear that. You know, what's your outlook with the time you have left? You seem to be somewhat positive saying you only got four more years. How's your mental health and your physical?

[Joe Exotic]

I have to stay positive, Nick, because I have a story to tell. The world needs to know how corrupt this is. I agree. Not, not only my case, but what goes on in federal prison. I mean, if they, if they had any clue how many drugs were in federal prison, he wouldn't even, he'd never vote again because the, the war on drugs out there is stupid when they're in here.

[Interviewer]

I agree. I know. And as a former cop, people are shocked to hear I'm a big proponent for the criminal justice system and you know, for an overhaul. We need to fix it and we need to, we need to do it right. It just can't be an experiment like our district attorney is a radical Phillies doing and getting people killed need to be done the right way. But people like you are going to be the voice for that and the voice would change. So with that, you know, what do you want your fans out there to remember most about your story? You know, the one big truth that you have that you want to set straight.

[Joe Exotic]

I, I didn't do what they said I did. And, and one thing about reporters that really upsets me is they always would say in, in every news article, Joe was convicted of 18 counts of animal abuse. I have not one charge against of animal cruelty or animal abuse. I've never been accused of it. I've never been charged of it and I've never been convicted of it.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Joe Exotic]

They have me on 18 charges of violating the Endangered Species act and the Lacey act. And it all has to do with paperwork, nothing abusing an animal.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Right.

[Interviewer]

It's funny how that happens. No charges and all of a sudden you have a whole shitload of them. And from what I understand that the euthanism, you followed the instructions from the, it was it the EPA or my

[Joe Exotic]

federal inspectors had have a vet protocol that they signed off on telling me how to put, to put them down. And they're the ones who came and told me, look, Joe, you have 260 tigers. Why are you making these 23 year old tigers crippled? Be in a cage just to put on exhibit. And they're the ones who told me to put them down. And then, and then the game warden that's working with Carol Baskin, the federal game warden, you know, he's the one that arrested me and prosecuted me, not the FBI or anybody Else it was a federal game warden that was friends with Carol Baskin and. And he charged me with taking five endangered species without a permit. Like I should have filed for a six or an eight month permit and let those animals suffer for eight more months while I got a permit to euthanize them that my federal inspector told me to do.

[Interviewer]

Right, so you follow the lawyer days if you don't.

[Joe Exotic]

Yeah, but you know what was the crazy part about that corrupt little shit system is during my trial, guess who could not be found to subpoena to court? My federal inspector. How do you not find a federal inspector to subpoena the court? Yep.

[Interviewer]

Everything about your case is just dirty, Joe.

[Joe Exotic]

It's crazy, but when I get out of here, when I get out of here, the truth's gonna come out and some questions are going to be asked. And I think that's why they're not letting me out, because they know that they're gonna have egg all over their face.

[Interviewer]

Oh, yeah, they're. They're buying time, and I guess they're hoping for the worst, but it would be the. The best in their case. Yeah, I'm sorry you're going through it, Joe, but it seems like you have a good, good attitude. I asked you two quick favors before we hang up.

[Joe Exotic]

Yes, sir.

[Interviewer]

Can you give a plug. Can you say you're listening to the Anti Hero Broadcast Network? You know, this is. This is Joe Exotic from Tiger King, and you're listening to the Anti Hero Broadcasting Network.

[Joe Exotic]

Hey, everybody, this is Joe Exotic and you're listening to the Anti Hero. Man, that beat it up. Okay, let's try it before that thing up on me. Hey, everybody, this is Joe Exotic and you're listening to the Anti Hero Broadcasting Network.

[Interviewer]

Yes, sir. And one more. Same thing, but just say the Good Cop Bad Cop podcast.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Okay?

[Joe Exotic]

Hey, everybody, this is Joey Got it from Tiger King, and you're listening to the Good Cop Bad Cop podcast.

[Interviewer]

Thank you, sir. Listen up. What do you want to tell all your fans out there?

[Joe Exotic]

Everybody get on pardon Joe exotic.com and sign my petition to President Trump because numbers count. And he's gonna listen to the thousands and thousands of people that agree that

[Interviewer]

I should be out. Oh, yeah, what's that site? One more time.

[Joe Exotic]

Pardon Joe Exotic dot com.

[Interviewer]

Yes, sir. Listen, I'd like to do this again if you're up for it.

[Joe Exotic]

Hey, just send my team a message and I'll call you anytime.

[Interviewer]

Dude, that sounds great, Joe. Yeah, yeah, Joe, I'm rooting for you, man.

[Joe Exotic]

All right, Tell everybody all Right.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

There he is. The Tiger King. The COVID King.

[Co-host]

That's great, dude.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Got a lot of people through Covet that guy.

[Co-host]

He did. I was one of them, dude.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Oh, it's me too. It was great. I couldn't stop watching it.

[Host]

Nope.

[Co-host]

Unbelievable. Dude, that's.

[Host]

Was that good? Should I watch it?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host]

It's that good. It's that good, dude. I don't.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Well out of control.

[Co-host]

I'd like to see your position on it without Covid, but at Covet time.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Exactly.

[Co-host]

The world was a storm and all I did was like, I gotta get home after this shift to go watch the next episode of Joe Exotic. Dude, he's a character.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The world needed him, dude.

[Co-host]

He's a character, man. Man, he is an absolute character.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

What was that one clip? It's like, yeah, I called you several times and not a you what do you need? Or nothing. Dude.

[Co-host]

Dude, he is great, man. That was a great interview too, man. He did a great job.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Thanks. There's some things I got to work on with the OZ and the shows which pisses me off. I got into. I haven't been on Fox for a while and kind of slipped back into my old habits.

[Co-host]

Gotta ask him if the job is dead next time.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely gonna get it back.

[Host]

Exotic and the job is dead in

[Co-host]

Las Vegas right now.

[Host]

Rob o' Neal sucks.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah. Forever. Whoever's crying in the comments that what does this have to do with law enforcement or military? He was a police chief.

[Co-host]

No, but here's the thing, here's the thing. This is a blue collar American network as well. This is for everybody.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Everybody has to do with the criminal justice system too.

[Co-host]

It does. But I, I'm more and more in the Patreon and, and we're getting guys that are construction dudes and, and machine operators that are going, hey, dude, you guys are giving us the news that we want to hear the same shop talk that's going on in the floor in the factory and at the, and everywhere else on the construction site is what we want to hear and that, that expands it so anything to do with everyday American hard working dudes, man, that's what this network is, is for. It's not just first responders and, and all that. It's everybody.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Now think about that. Which, this is scary, but the guy, their entire conviction rests on this guy, Alan Glover, who's a felon and a piece of to begin with, admits under oath under, you know, with an affidavit that he lied about everything he wasn't paid $3,000 as a down payment to kill Carol Baskin. In fact, he stole the three grand and. And left voluntarily. He didn't get fired and went to work with another scumbag. Jeff Lowe's in the same kind of business, although much more of a scumbag. And his appeals keep getting denied. No one's doing anything about it now. What's that? You know, that's. That's a guy who has a huge following. People know who he is and he's being on and with. What if it's one of us? You know, nobody's. That doesn't have any money or a following or who can come up with someone to help him out. I believe Trump's lawyer, Jerry Jones. Lawyer stepped in because, you know, it's such an affront to justice that this man's still being held after the. The key witness and the entire conviction rests on a lie. Yeah, that should make people nervous, Joe.

[Co-host]

Exotic. Dude, that's amazing.

[Host]

Yeah. Sorry about the audio. This is the first time Justin made that for us and this is the first time we've ever brought in, I think, like something that we made to listen to because obviously everything we listen to is usually from the Internet, So that's, that's our bad. But

[Nick the Gun Guy]

it's a phone call from jail, you know, recorded on an app, so.

[Host]

It was good, though, man. Yeah, that was really cool. I kind of wish I had watched Tiger King, but I will now.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

You can go binge it. It's. It's a train wreck, dude. But it's a glorious train wreck. You can't stop watching.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it's that. It's, it's, it's bad. It's. It's. You're sucked in from the first minute. You can't get enough of it. It's that good. It's that good.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The gay gun toting cowboy who sings and has tigers everywhere. And in the circus zoo, that Carol Baskin. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Co-host]

And that. That whole twist there with her husband. Dude, it's just a. Oh, yeah.

[Host]

Says, show us the Snapple, but I think that he made your piss bottle.

[Co-host]

We don't want that.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I already drank the Snapple.

[Host]

Brady said, I don't know where this is coming from. This has got to be some Patreon. So here's to Michael's Myrtle beach room fund. I guess Mike isn't a net.

[Co-host]

I was in Patreon last night for about an hour with the OGs, and I told him I had told him about the meltdown I had.

[Host]

Oh, you did? I wasn't gonna say anything.

[Co-host]

No, dude, this is entertainment, man. This is entertainment. This business.

[Host]

Didn't know if you were going through this.

[Co-host]

El Brutus. My El Brutus that I live with that stabbed me in the back when I was sticking up for her. And then she's like, no, bro, I'm fine with that. And I'm like, today we're fine with something. Like, I. I don't. I apparently don't know my wife at all.

[Host]

But no, to preface it, to put it in a. In a basket for you guys who have no idea we're talking about. We have. We're going to Myrtle Vision. We've been putting off this room because we don't have, like, you know, like, office skills here. So everybody was like, oh, yeah, we'll do it.

[Co-host]

I'll do it.

[Host]

I'll do it. Well, it never. And all the rooms in Myrtle beach were getting booked up. So Justin found a condo because Mike had found a hotel, but we didn't book it, so it. It was booked out. There's not. There's nothing there. So Justin found a condo that sleeps five. And I. He was like, hey, the. It's really good. Rates the same thing as a hotel room. I was like, cool, man. Book it. And then. And then Mike got the confirmation email and texted us. Like, I was like, man, dude, maybe like, that confirmation.

[Co-host]

I thought it was just his, and I was gonna. So I went to the same room to look for another room. I didn't know it was a group effort.

[Host]

Yeah, I thought Mike had, like, dipped into some alcohol or something. Like, there was no talking him down from the ledge. I was like, mike, it was a misunderstanding. We'll get you another room, dude. He's like, oh, misunderstanding? What'd you say? I partied with the best of them. 300 a night. The share.

[Co-host]

No, but I wasn't talking about what you guys spent. I was thinking that you had booked a room for you two, and I was gonna have to spend another thousand dollars is where it became where I was initially going. I'm like.

[Host]

I remember. Justin was like, I'm not trying to make you mad, Mike. I just need to make sure you understand what I'm not.

[Co-host]

I never even saw that message. I breezed right. I breezed right over those messages and was full blown. Then I look at my wife, and I was like, these booked a room. We're gonna have to all stay in the same room. And she's like, oh, we have our own room, though. And she's like, I don't have a problem with that. And I'm like, well, I just cussed them all out for no reason. Then, like, I don't know anything. I'm a. Yeah, it was pretty good.

[Host]

You did. You said, I. I can't quote it because I don't want to go find it, but you said, I would rather be waterboarded than stay in a condo with you guys. But it wasn't you guys.

[Co-host]

No, she would rather be blessed. I said she would.

[Host]

Okay. You guys have no problem with.

[Co-host]

I just know. I thought I knew my wife, but I find out six years, then that I don't.

[Host]

Maybe it was one of those things where they just want to know that you care and you'll go to war for her. And then she's like, oh, that's fine, as long as we do that.

[Co-host]

I didn't bring it up at all. She saw me like this. I was sit. I was sitting on the table like that. She says, what's wrong? And I said, I don't want to tell you about it, because I thought it was gonna be a disaster. And then she's like, no. She's like, that's cool. Got her own room. She's like, I just get ready in there. Everything's great. I'm like, okay, me, then. Me.

[Host]

All right, well, Nick, let's get to know you.

[Co-host]

Yeah, get to get to know.

[Host]

Nick's gonna come worked up. So you started, I want to guess, 2002.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

What's that? Police department.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

1999.

[Host]

1999. Okay.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yep.

[Host]

So how old were you when you became a cop?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I was 19 when I got hired. When I finally got into the police academy because of affirmative action, I was getting close to the end of the list. I was in the top 100 out of thousands, and I was getting close to the list dying. So when you sign up for the police department, you have to take a test, physical, all that, and then you get. You know, you get numbered. You know, you get ranked, and from

[Co-host]

the rank on your color and sex, it.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

It is, especially back then in the 90s. So you get ranked and. Well, it's not even about that. You'll still get ranked, but they'll pull people that are way past you to. To fit the box of. Of people that they need for the affirmative action. So I was getting close to the list. Dying. I thought I was gonna have to take another test, and I wasn't going to get on. So, yeah, it was a truck, dude.

[Host]

But when you got hired, when you were in this hiring process that was when it was really difficult to become a cop, especially as a white male, like very difficult.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

And it kind of got a little bit easier towards the end of the 90s, but it still wasn't. Like I said, my list was about to die and I got, I got onto the neck next. I actually got the last class of that list. It was only like a month away from dying. So I was, you know, reapplying to take the test again and thought I would have to wait another two years. But I got on, started the Academy April 5, 1999. So we also did a program in September where it's pretty stupid. They, you know, we got promoted to being an active law enforcement while still in the police academy. You know, I mean we, we did our pledge, got sworn in and we went out to a district for 30 days called, called field training, which, you know, yeah, you get these cops sent to the district, these new recruits, everyone looked at you like you're a rat from impact or internal affairs, you know, everyone avoiding you like the plague. And I understand that, I get it. You know, we only, we were only around allowed to ride with supervisors and you know, it was cool, but at the same, same end stupid because we're cops. When we were done that 30 days, we went back to the police academy and they had nothing for us to do. So for like 40 days we sat around playing paper football, watching movies. So they end up ending that program because it didn't make any sense. Well, once we're sworn in doing police duties, but you know, it was, it was cool. I went down the 12th district, this is really busy, down by the airport, saw a lot of cool things.

[Host]

Your, your old man was a Philly pd, right?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, so my dad became a cop when he was 18 years old. They did a program 1960, a bunch of 18 year olds. It's the first time Philadelphia hired anyone, I believe under the age of 21. And they did a whole, like a whole platoon of 18 year old cops. So my pop became a cop. He wasn't, he wasn't allowed to carry a gun for the first year. And then someone came by and said, this is fucking stupid. Why do we have these cops? So they give him a gun in second year, but he's not allowed to handle anything in bars because you got to be over 21. So he had to wait outside for a supervisor, which is stupid. But yeah, he remained a uniformed cop for five years that he made detective. It's in 1965. He makes detective. And like, the first month or two, he hated it. Went through his captains like, listen, I'd like to. To switch and go over to corporal because it's kind of the same rank, even though detectives don't have a rank, but it's equal to each other and pay. I guess it's like a. The G pay at the feds.

[Joe Exotic]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

And the cabin's like, listen, you're gonna love this job. I promise you come back to me in six months, and if you hate it, I'll make sure you know, you're made a corporal. So the end of six months, my dad came back. I was like, man, you're right. Thank you. I love this job. And he loved it so much. He say to your detective for 25 years, never wanted to leave. So when I got on a job, this is how I know my dad was. Was really good detective. People would hunt me down, saying, I. I heard sales kids here. Are you sales kid? Yeah. And people just tell him he's one of the best detectives they've ever seen and how great he was testifying. So it wasn't like we were stuck in a conversation and he was just, you know, give me some. Oh, yeah, I know your daddy's a great cop. Like, people would. Would seek me out to tell me, you know, how great he was as a detective and felt good, man. It's nice to hear and, you know, to tell him hello and like that.

[Host]

Yeah. So, you know, you did 20 years. Were you just uniformed the whole time?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, no, I didn't do 20. I did 12. But two of those years, I was out. I was out injured. But, you know, I grew up listening to the old cop stories from the 60s, 70s, and 80s, man. It was awesome, dude. There was a. An old rumor in Philadelphia that people. It's funny, when I was on, people would swear, I know who it was. I was there for that, or I know who was there. And it was all. It's like an urban myth about how a. A pink bunny came into a. A cell room one time and beat a confession out of somebody. Wasn't my dad, but he was present for it. I know. I know who the detective was. One of those urban. Urban legends I went through. Went through the Philly Police department. There's a lot of them, too. Rizzo. You know, Frank Rizzo? Do you guys know who he is?

[Host]

I don't think so.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

One of the best. He's a police commissioner. Old school Italian guy. One of the best commissions.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Philly ever had. He's a mayor for a while, and a guy, I think he shot and killed a cop. And he was shot too. And the wagon came over and was like, yo, we're headed to the prisons. And Rizzo came over and said, where are you headed? Or we're headed to the hospital. He says, where are you headed? And they said, you know, we're headed. We're en route with the, uh. With the suspect. There's a gunshot to the hospital. And. And Rizzo comes over and goes, I'm gonna ask you one more time where you had it. And, like, five minutes went by. He said, turn us around to the morgue.

[Host]

How many have you ever been in any shootings?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, I was in a shooting May 3, 2003. A guy robbed a Jamaican store with a shotgun, got some money, ran away. So it starts coming over. It was on the border, the 15th and the 24th, where I was at. And it comes over. It's J Bands, which is citywide, so we're a different division. We were east division, which had the 24th and. And 26th on. On one radio. So we would hear the 26th, they'd hear the 24th. And when J Band would beep in and we'd hear citywide, that might be pertinent, like a car chase or suspect could be coming in our area like that. So I heard the job. It was close to where I was at, so I paid attention to it. Then it came out that he. He was just in a bar in my district on O Street, and he. He went in there with the shotgun. So everyone stopped looking at him. He put a dollar on the bar, told the bartender, give him a dollar's worth of beer. So the bartender put a little glass down and poured him half a glass of beer. He drank and said, for my people holding up the shotguns and just started running out on the street. So we started getting calls like crazy. We say him start chasing them down, of all places, at Dunkin Donuts parking lot. So when I saw him, he pulled the shotgun. There's a couple of us there, pulled a shotgun in his 15th district cop ready. And it looked like, you know, he was ready to fire. And we opened fire and he ducked down. And where is that? It looked to me like he was in front of the car, which is in a parking spot, but he's actually behind a wall. So when I started to open fire, he ducked behind the wall. I'm like, where the did he go? Because I was shooting through the car and moving left, you know, trying Trying to suppress his fire and get him. But then he, like, disappeared. And then guys showed up in the 15th with a heart on and just ran down, you know, told us, stop shooting, and just ran down and got him. Dumb because he had a shotgun point at him. But he gave up. Those two would have been dead just so he can run in and get the pinch. But worked out well. And you know what, man? I'm glad I. I killed a 1990 Toyota Camry. Didn't kill him. He was crazier than a rat. He needed help. So, you know, I. I definitely happy I didn't kill that guy. And then I show up to the Dunkin Donuts two weeks later. I'm like, this should be enough time. And the blue Toyota Camry still there with flat tires, no manager. The Indian dude was just cursing me out in Indian because his car was still beat up. So I wrote the number down to the city solicitor and left.

[Host]

I was gonna say the city didn't handle that at, like, on scene.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They processed the car, but they just left it there.

[Host]

No, I was gonna say, usually James De La Cruz asks, what would you have been. What would have been your second choice if you never made it into law enforcement?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

An archaeologist.

[Host]

For real?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, for real.

[Host]

Okay, so you did 12 years. Why'd you get out?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I got injured on duty. I didn't mind. It was 2009. And then I started to see where the. The pendulum was swinging. Yeah. So I. I didn't mind riding that injury out, which. I'm up, man. I can't do certain things with my shoulder. I had my AC joint fixed up. But, you know, I. I've seen a lot of.

[Joe Exotic]

Man.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I was in the 24th district, which is east division. I was. My sector was the 24th. It was a peace sector. So in the entire city of Philadelphia, two man car would have to drop off the recorder for lunch, then come back recorded, hop in and drive, then the driver take lunch. That's what's supposed to happen. It doesn't happen. But we were the only car in the city that were allowed to take a lunch together because that's how busy our sector was. We're one of the busiest areas in the entire country. It was the number one heroin corner being Indiana. So you would literally grab a whole crew, pull racks of heroin out of hiding spots. Like, I'm talking about, like, 14, 15 racks. And by the time you're back at the district, which isn't far away, there's a whole new crew out there with all new racks replaced, and it's just like a businessman just kept running. That's one thing I didn't with. I really didn't with narcotics. It's an easy way to get yourself jammed up. I like stolen cars, you know, armed robberies, guns. Like that. Real police work. Yeah, the.

[Host]

I think when you really do. When you do that, the. The more you do. I mean, the more you give yourself, the longer you're gonna. The. The shorter you're gonna last in that job. And, like, everybody. Like, Mike started kind of harping on it, like, oh, he did. Like, what were you saying? Like, he's a night. Like, oh, he didn't do 20 years. Like, everybody's so. Like, they get hung up on you didn't do 20 years. So it must have been bad. And here's the thing. You want to know how many years Derek Jeter played in the MLB? 19 years. He was in there for 19 years. Derek Jeter didn't do 20 years. Does that mean Derek Jeter doesn't get any. You know, it blows my mind. Military dudes. Oh, I did four years. I did eight years. I did 12 years. I did 19 years in the military. Medically retired. Like, oh, he's a bag. It must have been bad. Like, the condition.

[Co-host]

It's the new condition of cop. Like, there's. I'm sure Nick agrees, this new generation of cops is soft. Not all of them, but in general. So the only thing they're hearing, because they don't know about, like, what Nick's talking about, which is chasing dudes down, shooting cars, shooting stuff that is real cop stuff. They think, oh, I gotta. I'm here to do 20 years or 25 years. And that's. That's all. And they don't have any. They're not really doing much through that 20 years. So it's like. It's like a game, but when you do it hardcore for nine, eight, seven, that's a lifetime's worth of mental illness and work for anybody. Like, anybody to see a Philadelphia dude, a dump to deal with it that every day you're. You should have to do, like, 10 years and be done. Boston, 35 years. Come on, man. That's insane.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

My time equals. No offense to suburb cops. My. My time equals 30 years. Out in the suburbs. I didn't seen everything that you can possibly do.

[Co-host]

Yeah, there's a cap. There's a time where you go. And. And that was the recent. When Tyler got on in that meme, it was like part of it was he only did 10 years. Like, what does that even mean? Yeah, but to get out and do something else like this, it's like you're gonna on that. Like, that's just cops in general, dude. Just find something to complain about and on.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Dude, they're the most jealous people in the world, man. They. They really are.

[Host]

They are their own worst enemy. They are. And the hater mentality is real. I support law enforcement. I support cops wholeheartedly every day of my life. What I don't support is people in that job that aren't that don't want to be there anymore. I don't support you in that. I don't support you because guess what? You are going to blame everyone but yourself for your misery in that job. You are going to blame your co workers, you are going to blame admin. You're going to blame the pendulum not swinging. You're going to blame the culture. Blame yourself. You are going to sit there for 20 years because you're too stupid to figure out you're in a job that you don't like. You used to like it and now you don't like it anymore. So I don't support you. So if that's your mindset, stay there. Sure, be hated by everybody, be cynical, but don't do anything for your self. I realized about six years in this might not be it. I realized about eight years in, I'm building an exit strategy, and nine years in, I implemented that exit strategy and I'm out now. I did that for me. I didn't do it for anybody else. It is what it is.

[Co-host]

But if you stayed and we're dredged to the agency and just sat and did nothing and dodge calls, you'd be admirable because you stayed for 20. Like, oh, look, he. He stuck it out, you know, got into a thing for the next 10 years and. And put. Everybody disappeared. It disappeared out in the field. We never could get a hold of them. And that becomes some cops, and they don't have an exit plan, so they just become mentally ill and they sit around and do nothing for 10 words.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Does it what you did?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I've done that too, dude. I was a toad. You can ask four people, four cops that worked with me, you're gonna get four different answers and they're all right. You know what I mean? I got times where I was discouraged and pissed off and I did some toad and I was Red October.

[Co-host]

And then somebody goes, well, he did his 25, so he's a good cop. No, that worked three or four years, some of them, and then they did nothing the rest of their career.

[Host]

So, I mean, you brought up that meme. I did that, Mike. I started a T shirt company. I would post on Instagram and call, call out. I remember specifically it was like popo medic and donut operator. And I was like, these are out of the job. And I was talking all kinds of crazy, like I was a spartan warrior gladiator out there, man of the man, you know, just out there. Oh, doing alpha cop stuff. And at the end of the day, it started really not working for me. Every door was closing. I, I'm a firm believer in Christ and I believe that Christ will slam doors in front of your face. And if you're too stubborn and you kick those doors open, he's gonna put concrete there and you're gonna get into weird. Like, how did this happen? How did this not work out? People are gonna be like, I've never seen this before. That's because you're too stupid to realize that your path was to be a cop or to be whatever you wanted in life. But it's not there anymore and you need to move on. Everybody gets jammed up with this retirement, this health insurance. Any right now in this chat that thinks that they are going to never work again after 20 years is insane. We are going to be working until the day our heart stops or the day we're in a, we're in hospice. We are going to be working. You got cops getting out and retiring. And I know there's some states that do take care of the cops and there's some agencies that do, but 95 of cops that retire have to go work because they can't afford health insurance. They have to.

[Co-host]

Well, they don't plan it like you said. They don't think, they're not thinking ahead. They don't even, they're, they're. You can go to, I can go to 10 year cops right now at the, at the sheriff's office that are in FRS and go, hey, what is your percentage when you retire and how you looking for your finances? They're like, I don't even know what that means. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. Like, so you don't even know what your own retirement is going to give you at the end? Well, let me give you a little hint. You're only getting 75% of your best eight years in the state of Florida.

[Host]

You.

[Co-host]

I've said this time and time again, these guys are barely making it day to day on the 100 of their paycheck with overtime and free health care. Pretty much when they leave, they foot the entire bill for health care. They're only getting 75 of their pay at the time they left. Then what do you do? Well, Damn, I lost 25 of my income and I have to pay a thousand dollars a month insurance to keep my family insured. So my income just shrunk to like 60 of what I was making. Do you think a lot of cops are prepared to make 60 of their current salary and survive and live a normal life?

[Host]

Nope, nope, nope.

[Co-host]

They're going to be working at a, they're going to safari land, some law enforcement sales company. They're going to be working at Home Depot, Lowe's, and they're going to work just as long and die. Like you said, still working. So unless you're.

[Host]

That's okay to work those jobs. It's okay. It is. But don't think that you're not going to be working somewhere when you retire. So when you, you, you project this light at the end of the tunnel, it's 20 years. I just gotta make it 25 years, whatever it is. And then you get there and then there's not this paradise of money flowing in. It's like you did all of that. You wasted your prime in a job that day. Here's the thing. If you guys like what you're doing, don't stop. Don't stop. But you will start feeling, maybe this isn't it for me. I might in a couple years start not liking this job for real. Start thinking ahead. Start. If you're gonna start a business, start it now. If you're going to go to school for something else to get a new career, start going to night classes. Like, this is all. I know I sound cliche, but you can't wait until the day you're ready to quit. I remember the day I put it in my papers. It was magical because I had set everything up for years. But if you don't do that and you have that day, and my day wasn't negative, I, I just, I remember it, it was really cool to do. I worked really hard. But if you do get pushed to a point and you're like this, I'm out. You, you gotta have a, you gotta have something.

[Co-host]

If I didn't put plan, dude, and I didn't even really plan to plan, but I did, they would have had me. I would have been in predicament. Like I might have to sell my house and, and, and do Something when they decided to cam me and do what they did to me, but because I had fell into cop ville and started a side business that was making money, when that day came, I was like, yeah, you thought you had me, but you didn't. And that's. You should. That is a good feeling. And that's what I think that your message is that, like, if you guys are going to just. You have to be ready for this day to come, your use of force is coming and you're going to shoot somebody or into a critical incident, and if they turn their back on you and go like they did to Sal and say, hey, off you go, man, good luck. What are you going to do? What are you going to do with no job? So everybody should either be saving and investing. Sounds like the dumbest thing that I ever thought in my lifetime I'd be telling people to save money and invest. But saving and investing or preparing a second career, that's something you really, really, really want to do. Because if you're going to do it till you're like 60 or 65, you don't want to push his own. You don't want to tow the gun belt around, find something like we do. A bunch of morons sitting behind a camera that, you know, talking. Something that you can do and sustain. Because the day's coming, man. The day's coming where you're. It's your turn and you might not have any income.

[Host]

Do you miss the job, Nick?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Oh, I can talk now.

[Host]

You.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I thought this is about my career,

[Co-host]

the ball. Shut up at every intro and everything about my career.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

So happy I got to talk about myself this hour.

[Host]

Well, I love the tee up I gave you for Tiger King. And you go, so about Sal Andrade. I was like, okay, well, we'll talk about that. And then I was like, are you ready to. I was like, Nick's got a huge surprise and he talked about something completely different. So, all right. I asked about shootings. We got shooting. You fell and split your sack open once on video. That was pretty cool, right?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

That was, that wasn't police department. That was security work. I'm done. Let's move on. I lost my enthusiasm now. So I get out of the academy.

[Interviewer]

I'm.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I'm in the police department for about back seven, seven or eight months. I get called to internal affairs and I sit down, it's like out of the movies. And they throw a bunch of pictures on the table and I'm like, what the did I get involved in? Like, I haven't been here long enough. If I did, like, I didn't even know what was going on. You know what I mean? I'm like running through scenarios. It ends up being pictures of like the precursor to Antifa, a bunch of protesters. Like, what do you know about this protesters? Like, I don't know. So I end up being recruited to work undercover and infiltrate the precursor to Antifa. So for several months I walked around without a gun in a badge and dressed up like a dirt ball and lived and played with the scummy scumbags in 2000, prior to the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia. So it was me and a small team. It was pretty cool, man. It's a really good learning experience. Almost got me hired by Shelton Ham are not Shelton Ham Northampton to do like a 21 Jump street because I look real young. They wanted me to go to Council Rock High School and be a narc and go to school every day. But Philly wouldn't, wouldn't lend me out. They would have to hire me. And the guy running a narcotics program wanted one of his people to do it and didn't want to go outside. So I end up getting over for that, which is probably a good thing. I was 20. Would have got myself in trouble. Yeah, high school.

[Host]

Yes.

[Co-host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

You were drinking, so. But it was, it was cool, man.

[Co-host]

Like drinking. Seventeen will get you 20, man. You gotta be careful.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Definitely to drinking. Yeah, but so during that, you know, during public national convention, we were kind of like we were in with the top antifa scumbags. Like we knew what they were planning, what we're doing. So we would just radio into, into our like talk like what was going on and. And they would move the police, you know, the police troops around and intercept them. And it was funny, dude, because I was there. Like they couldn't figure out how the police were like one step ahead of them constantly. Like, dude, it was like a lot of million dollars in damage as is. But when it was over, they brought us into a room. Dude, it was like, I have a movie. There's like computers Everywhere. Probably like 15 different agencies. He pointed them out. They all stood up and clapped like, you guys are heroes. You saved the city millions of dollars and you know, you saved people from getting injured. Pretty cool. And then we got thanked by write down what you want, where you want to go. Because that's normally old school things you do something like that, they reward you with like a unit. So we wrote down that. And Timothy, who was a commissioner, I hate. He's dead. Him from New York, flip the out, said, these cops think we're gonna put them somewhere for doing their job. Now they're all going to like to the 12th and this in the 17th district. So we went from, you know, something good and being praised to trying to fight just to get back to our districts, which we did. And prior to that, you know, we were taking pictures and surveillance. We end up closing a shop down that dropped a balloon full of BB's on top of a cop who hurt a cop. You know, they had warehouses of like, actually, like artillery pieces, but, you know, civil and rust pieces and weapons to hurt police officers. So we shut it down. It made. It made national news, and the commissioner flipped the out. We had a meeting, and it was like, the commissioner said that you guys will not be covered under the city whatever. If you guys get sued, you're on your own. So we had a meeting to decide whether or not we want to keep going or. Or stop. So we all decided, let's keep doing it, Timothy. So we went forward and nothing happened from that. But, yeah, he was a real piece of. But it's all. It was fun, man. It's a learning experience. Like during the. During the Republic, there's a whole week long. So, you know, we were running around. I got grabbed by highway guys and hit with night sticks. And I stopped. We had like a code word. It was like Larry Evans. And then they were supposed to respond like Nelson Rivers or whatever. And I end up stopping in a mall and I saw a whole bunch of. You remember, I'm dressed as a protester. A whole bunch of cops. I go to the bathroom and I'm pissing. And then again, right out of the movie, I'm not lying, the door opens up and five cops walk in with a sergeant. And they start putting their gloves on to me up, and I'm like, okay. And I give him the code word.

[Joe Exotic]

He goes.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

He goes, yeah, that's not working today. We know you scumbags found out about the code, so they're squaring off. I said, really? I said, who the are you? And he gives me his name. I said, all right. I had a next, though. I said, so you're telling me it. It's off? That doesn't work no more? Because that's what I'm telling you, so you better get ready. I said, well, I'm gonna call the commissioner right here on my. On my next cell. I said, I'm a re. I'm gonna. I'm a cop working undercover, which I shouldn't even be telling you this because of the code. He goes, show me your id. I said, I'm undercover. What don't you understand? I don't have my ID or my gun on me. What do you. You know? So I said, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hit up Timothy and explain that sergeant whatever Marks decided that. That the code word doesn't work anymore. And he. And you're changing the entire program. So he. He got a little nervous. He sent the cops out and we had a little chat 101. I hit up somebody on the next style, like Mike, Captain Costello, and we settled it. But he almost got himself in trouble. I almost got my ass.

[Host]

I was gonna say. I thought you were gonna be like. So then they just proceeded to beat my ass.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

No, I got out of it, but highway guys I was walking by grabbed me, threw me up on the wall, got hit with a night stick in my leg. The code used. I, you know, I spit out the code then. And they were cool about it and they're like, all right. And then he's whispering in my ear and he's like, all right, I'm gonna just around a little bit more just to make it look good for the other protesters. I cursed him out and ran away. It was fun though, dude. You know, being a kid, I was 20 years old. It was a lot of fun.

[Host]

We talked about that. It's like the Departed.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, it's a great learning experience who you are.

[Host]

You look really young, as we're actually going to utilize you in a really unorthodox way because of the circumstances and. All right, well, we're gonna take a quick commercial break. When we get back, we will have Huck Finn Barbell, AKA Thomas Finn, on the show, who was contacted by G Money, who was contacted by Nick the gun guy.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The gun guy.

[Host]

A lot of work went into getting in touch with Thomas Fenby. He's a great dude. And we're gonna have him on as soon as we get back from this commercial break.

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off and if you have trouble at checkout for whatever reason and your promo code isn't working, don't purchase but send us a screenshot and we will have that fixed. Immediately. All right, guys, without further ado, I'm super excited because nobody can see him on the bottom of the screen, but I can. So can I. Huck Finn. Everybody.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Cheers.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Hold on.

[Host]

Look at that setup.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Can you see me?

[Host]

Oh, I can see you.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

We turn this music off.

[Host]

It's my favorite song.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Holy. Back here forever, man.

[Host]

He's got multiple camera angles, too. Look at this guy. It's like he's done this before.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Man. I cannot. I cannot breathe in that damn mask. I've been on that thing for, like, 15 minutes watching you guys back.

[Host]

I know he had it on for, like, 15 minutes.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Jesus. I had to get it off. First off, I want a shotgun, a beer right now. I got a lot of beer with me, so shotgun right here. Let's get that out of the way, Right?

[Host]

So you, how do, how do you mix. How do you, how do you do the fitness with the beer? I think that's a question that I want to ask personally. You know, everybody says no alcohol. You got, you know, you look like you enjoy your life. You're not ashamed of having a couple beers like the pure American that you are, but you also take care of everybody.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. So I would never, ever stop drinking beer. You'd have to throw the goddamn dirt on me for me to stop drinking beer. That's number one. Number two, I've been bench pressing since I was in eighth grade. I've never stopped. I've been doing that for, like, 30 years. So I train every day. Like, I'm a. Like, I still play for the Chicago Bears, so they're just, you know, you can't get drunk every day, but there's a fine line. I eat like a bodybuilder, I drink like a alcoholic, I like a porn star, and I train like a power lifter.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, man, pretty much.

[Host]

You're like a real life Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, I, I, I've met Stone Cold a few times. We drank some beers. They drank some beers at his house before. Really? A lot of people have said that if Stone Cold Steve Austin and Hulk Hogan, a Pastor Ruby can. That Huck Finn barbell would be the offspring. And here I am. Cheers.

[Host]

Cheers to you, bro.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I have to say, when I started Instagram, I got on Instagram. You were one of the real. Got sent to me every Fourth of July. Every Fourth of July, there was a husband barbell reel of you doing something absolutely amazing for, like, showing off your, your love for America, bodybuilding, and alcohol. So it's, it's a pleasure to meet you, man. It's funny as that. I end up sitting here talking to you. It's cool.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. Yeah. Nice to meet you guys. Had a long conversation with that guy up there in the van. I don't know what he's doing in a van driving around.

[Host]

We don't want to know.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I couldn't get off the phone with this guy the other day. G money.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I thought video was awesome. You need to see his video of him lifting weights on top of a paramedic truck. An ambulance riding down a road.

[Co-host]

That one yesterday.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So.

[Host]

I mean. And you kind of came up in conversation because Nick, the most American man in the war in America, created the all. What is it, Nick?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The All American man. I don't think I could pick the better guy to start the initiation with than Huck Finn. Dude is America.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. I love it, man. I have an accept an acceptance speech as well. I wrote one out myself.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Right, you did or you want. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Host]

Tyler, give me 30 seconds.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Now we'll give him 30 seconds drinking beer.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

It's 10 in the morning. I love it.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I got a certificate for you. Well, we'll present you with the certificate, then we'll both pound a beer.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

All right, let's do that. I love it.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

That's part of the initiation beer.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

It's the only way a real American can get sent into. What are you calling this? The real. Are the All American hall of Fame or something?

[Interviewer]

The.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The All American man hall of Fame?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yes.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The old person cupcake.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No lady boys, man.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

That's right. No lefty blue haired allowed.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I love this show.

[Host]

All right.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Chuck Norris is. Is actually the first inductee. But that's.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

He is a.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

You know what I mean? He is the all American man.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

He is.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

It was created. Created that day. Here we go.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Badass.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

The All American man hall of fame. Huck Finn 2026. You're the first inductee. Raise your beer. Salute.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Salute. Brother,

[Host]

I spiked this.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

God damn, that's good air horn. All right. I got a little acceptance speech, my friend.

[Host]

Hit it.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Of course, Huck Finn Barbell won this award because I can out bench you, I can out squat you, and I can out deadlift you. I'm Huck Finn. And you're not all you California sweat hogs out there can suck my blue collar. The only people up thinking for this award are the young hillbillies out there. They're the real Americans. Those LA lady boys that sip lattes. I shotgun beer at 10am

[Host]

Damn. I don't I'm like speechless on my own show.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah,

[Host]

so I thought you made a shirt and you kind of explained the meaning of the shirt after 24 beers. You created design which is, it said like Young LA or something. What's Young la? You talking about the youth of la? Are we talking about.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

All right, so they got this beer everywhere. I got this company called Young LA and they're promoting the pussification of America pretty much down these kids throat. I see they have this giant booth. I go to this thing called the Arnold every year. Arnold Schwarzenegger's event, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

And I've been going there for years and I do a 21 beer salute. People come drink beer with me, you know, come to my booth or I get invited to Boost and it's awesome. I mean if you could pull up any reels on here. That, that last one I did was insane. So I noticed this la, Young LA booth, which is huge, like a million dollar booth. And it is the exact opposite of the fucking shit I believe in. Like they got fancy cars, latte drinking, got nobody drinking beer. I mean if I had the goddamn booth, I'd have fucking pickup trucks, ugly ass strippers, a full bar, right. Double decker. I'm talking about a country band. Hank Williams Jr. Playing on the stage and just having a good time. This is not that. So. And I see that these kids, these, all these kids are there. There's a real American right there.

[Host]

Yeah. So you said this real was in your Instagram?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Scroll down a little bit. Keep going. Yeah, right there.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

So that's me talking about Young la. You can play that one right there. I'm pointing that one.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Is that Joey Swole?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, yeah. So I got a little thing going swole too. Like I think the opposite way he thinks too. He's making fun of these beautiful women for being in a gym part naked. I mean, why are you saying it's disgusting? That's disgusting. The most disgusting thing I ever seen was at a truck stop at 3 in the morning. These beautiful women are not fucking disgusting. Can you play that one right there? I'm talking about la. Yep, that's a good la. LA sucks dick with their assholes. Next year you're gonna have young hillbillies, huckbit Barbell style. California, they suck. Ah, Yeah, that's in front of their booth there. And I just, man, and I saw these kids, I'm like, dude, I need to. If I'm gonna change something in this world right now, it's gonna be the youth of America. I'm gonna make him a young hillbillies in a real man is pretty much what it is.

[Host]

Yeah, dude.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Terrified, dude.

[Host]

Can you imagine being the security guard? And they point at you and go, hey, we need you to go throw that guy out.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. So the cops there love me because, like, they've known me from the Internet and the cops literally give me patches. They gave me a beer helmet the other year. And the firemen there, they all. Every year, they know me. So if anything ever happens, like one time, Rain called the cops on me. Rain, the energy drink, which I fucking hate. Rain now because of that, they can go, fuck off. They're like, hey, we're gonna call the cops. This guy's, you know, being drinking beer and all this shit. The cops come over, they know who I am. They're like, don't worry, brother. We'll take care of this. They go over and tell Rain, if you say a thing about Huck Finn again, we're gonna kick you guys out of here. It's fucking. It was fucking awesome. It was like the greatest thing ever. Like, they thought they had me, right. These two jerk offs from Rain. Wrong again. Wrong again. It was one of the greatest things I ever saw in my life.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Their faces now, what's the 21 beer salute look like?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Say what?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

What's the 21 beer salute?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, pull the 21 beer salute up. It was right below that.

[Host]

All right.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, it was right below that video right there where I'm standing on top. Flicking everybody off on top of that rack there. There it is. Let's. Fire. Fire. Fire is the highlight of the world right here, boys. I almost staged. I'm off the top of that, but I'm hungover as hell here too.

[Host]

Yeah, you can see. You're like, I don't know if I can trust these people.

[Joe Exotic]

Dude.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

When I got up there and I'm saying I drank till three in the morning before this, and I had this meet and greet at high noon. It's like, man, I don't want to be Huck Finn today. I don't even want to drink a beer. But once I had that first beer, me, I walked in there, I saw that crowd, I was like, it's go. It's go time. Hit that switch. You know, it's like that movie over the Top, when he turns that hat backwards.

[Host]

Yes.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Boom. I drink the motor oil. I come in there and I just kicked ass.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

So Hair the dog, man, at 40,

[Huck Finn Barbell]

how do I keep going? There's nothing else. I know there ain't nothing else. I know, man. I mean, it's a little tougher than it used to be. Yeah. But, God, you get in those crowds like that. Yeah, I'd do anything, you know, I, I, yeah, just that, that fuel the fire.

[Host]

The. I, I will tell you this, man. When you, whenever one, any man cuts down drinking, you go back to having a, like, going, oh, I'm gonna drink again, dude. It is like being hit with a freight train. You'll never get it back. So if you're able. This sounds like awful advice, but it's true. If you like to drink alcohol and then you like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna have a healthier lifestyle. Just know that's awesome and great for you, but you are never gonna go back to what that was because your body was like that, dude, that shit's poison. So I commend you for the 24 beers.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh, yeah, it's, it, I mean, it's rough. Yeah. You wake up, but it's like, man, you. Let's go, let's go. These guys are counting on you. There's no way, man. From that weekend was probably, you know, four days long before I got back to normal.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I've been there. So let me ask you, when's the Huck Finn Beer Olympics going to take place in your 40 acres?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I've been thinking about that. I've been thinking about that out here, and it might happen this summer. I've been thinking about it. I almost started something last year. Right. I also want to get a band out here. It's kind of a whole thing. Maybe Huck Finn stock or something. We're just crazy. Just goes down for a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you know.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Got it sponsored, yo.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Of course, you know that real American Beer was sponsored before Hogan passed away. I'm good friends with Nick and then and his dad, Hulk. But yeah, after that, all that thing happened. It kind of went. Went downhill after that. So I don't know what's going on with that company or not. I seen they've changed quite a bit of stuff.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

That's a shame. The beer's good.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. No, I've drank a lot of that beer, brother. I drank a lot of it. You know, just when, When Hogan passed away. I think they're getting sued. Maybe it's just stuff I've read in the news. I'm not sure what's going on with who owns it or what.

[Co-host]

Chance, man. Your chance now to

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Finn American beer. I like that a lot.

[Co-host]

That's a Great idea, man. I mean, who else.

[Host]

Who.

[Co-host]

What better commercial for that than the dude bench pressing on top of an ambulance doing excited. Every cop every. Every briefing should have that video playing every morning before you go out on the streets. Look at this.

[Host]

You're.

[Co-host]

You're defending the country for this guy to be as American as it gets. We're gonna watch this video every morning. Yeah, we're getting pumped up. We're gonna go out and do our

[Host]

job while we do it.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Boy, that's getting me chills right now in my barn gym, man.

[Co-host]

There it is, man. That's the video we should be watching and not these DI videos and all that we need every morning in briefing, pounding beers, benching steel plates, and then we get up and we go out and put bad guys in jail. That's what this country.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I love it, man.

[Co-host]

That's what it means.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Dude. What do you got planned for this July 4th?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh, well, listen, I. This.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

You've been working on it, yo?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Of course I have been. My wife heard this idea and she started crying. So I know it's a good idea. That's how good it is. Right. I got a guy not too far from here that has a airplane and he is a pilot.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Oh, boy. Oh, yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I've been. I've been by land, I've been by sea. So next it's gonna be by air. I'm talking about wing walking, my friend.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Oh, yes.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I'm gonna get. They're gonna have me in some kind of get up. I don't know if it's gonna happen yet. This is my dream, though. This is what I've been talking about. Get strapped into a wing while chugging a beer. Low enough so I can have a recording from the ground. One on my head and one in. In the cockpit. Right. And somehow I don't know how because you. I don't somehow got to incorporate lifting weights at the same time. I don't know if that's going to be possible.

[Host]

That's gonna be hard. Exiting the aircraft under the wing.

[Interviewer]

Oh, you're just good.

[Host]

So you're just gonna take off on the wing?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

On the wing, yeah. So I take off on the wing. We get high enough, obviously, so it looks awesome.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

But if I maybe I might have to use like foam fake.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Like I don't think the plane can fly sideways.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

And if I put the weight on it, it is.

[Co-host]

You're probably big enough big for the wing.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

That's right.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

You might need a counterweight on the other wing.

[Co-host]

We get like A dispatcher or somebody on the other side.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Maybe we got somebody in. Maybe Nick the gun guy can be on the other side.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

There you go.

[Host]

Yeah. Or you can get certified and chug a beer and do a backflip off that wing.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, well, that's another thing. Yeah, skydiving would be, would be great, too. I'd do that in a heartbeat. I met that guy at a Applebee's. I was drunk in an Applebee's by the. What's that place where he comes in there? I'd, like, put my location on there. And I'm getting hammered in Applebee's. Here comes Nick the gun guy in there. That's the first time I met the guy. Good dude.

[Host]

What state are you in?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I'm in Illinois, actually, and it's not, it's not the best state. Where I live is great, but yeah, I definitely want to move south as soon as I can right now. I've got the job kind of holding me here.

[Host]

Oh, you one of those guys that we just talked about?

[Co-host]

You don't feel very Illinois to me. That's what I'm saying. I was like, damn, dude. This.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Now a lot of people call me a shanky. A Southern Yankee. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. The way of life I like to live, obviously, where I live is beautiful. In. I'm in a great spot, but a lot of Illinois, especially near Chicago, which is probably the worst. The only time I've ever been in there is for a Chicago Bears game. Other than that. Yeah, I, I, I don't even know how somebody could live in a city, any city, you know, if I had to choose of living on a remote area with no around, why would you not want to live there? I don't get it. Why would you want to drive in traffic every day?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Where are you at in Illinois? The south.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I am about two hours southwest of Chicago, so out in the cornfields and

[Co-host]

on ambulances. You can't do that in Chicago.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No, you can't.

[Host]

Gang members.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

There's a whole line of people celebrating on the side, too. Great.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

My goddamn neighbors. They're the mullets. Our whole family of mullets, man. And they're the closest neighbors to my house. And I love those guys. They're. They're crazy. Bush light. I mean, they got, they got. The guy gets drunk all the time. Remember the first time I moved into this place, which is a nice place. And he goes, what do you do? Somebody said, you, like, get paid to drink beer? I said, yeah, I do, actually. Brother. He goes, God damn, I drink a lot of beer, man. Can you get me paid to drink beer? I said, follow my footsteps, my friends. I'll be lifting weights, and I'll pull up the barn doors here. And he'll just come on a side by side and just drink beer while we're all lifted away. He's never lifted a weight in his life.

[Co-host]

Yeah, he's good.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

He's doing 12 ounce curls, push lights the whole time. God damn.

[Host]

Would you. When did you start lifting? You said 12.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. So my dad was a construction worker. He come home from. From work covered in cement dust, and he.

[Joe Exotic]

He.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I remember him specifically moving the coffee table out and throwing it away and putting a weight bench in its spot. I would bench press you, drink PBR and yell, build the chest, the rest. And that's how I got started into weightlifting. Right. And then, obviously, then we built a dungeon. We called. It was just a garage.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

He must have found somebody

[Nick the Gun Guy]

trying to get in here.

[Host]

One of the kids actually did a double take, so we had to go try to get him in, but. Yeah, ran too fast. Come see Uncle Nick.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

So how to get Huck in here? Free beer.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I'm right now outside of your van. You see me.

[Host]

That's a. That's a good skit, man. You just set beer cans out and Huck just sitting there chugging one until it gets in your bed.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. So my old man, Pappy, he. He just yelled me, and he taught me how to lift weights. He didn't teach me much except working out and being a crazy son of a. So it just came out like. I kept training, and through high school, I was benching, like, £400. I was the strongest guy in high school. I was like a sophomore.

[Host]

Really.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

It just. I went to college. I failed out several times. I cut my finger off lifting weights, which. That's a whole nother story, man. I cut my pinky off lifting weights. I had the pinky still over here in a jar. Right. So every year on Thanksgiving, we drink a shot of Wild Turkey with the pinky in the Wild Turkey for the last 20 years. My dad swallowed it two years ago.

[Joe Exotic]

Wait.

[Co-host]

No.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

It's just black and it's shriveled up

[Nick the Gun Guy]

and you see it.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

You want me to go get it?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

It's on the shelf over here. Hold on. Take a minute.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yeah.

[Host]

You want me to go get it?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I did. I think I gotta end the All American man hall of Fame.

[Co-host]

Yeah. I don't know there's anybody else that can get In.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Nah, I'm done. He ruined it over.

[Host]

I wouldn't wanna. I wouldn't want to follow that up.

[Interviewer]

Nope.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, so it's in a. I got it in a pre workout. This is my pre workout HFB supplements. This is called. I don't know what this one is. This is Summertime Blues. So I gotta open the top off. There's a sock in there. See? A sock?

[Host]

Yep.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Then a medical thing. Medical thing. Hold on. Then you unscrew the medical thing or

[Host]

whatever pills stinks like.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

And here it is, boys. That's the tip right there of my pinky.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

See how he swallowed it?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Can you see it?

[Co-host]

Yeah, we got it right there.

[Host]

So did you, how did you, how did you do it? Was it between dumbbells?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, two dumbbells. Two like 100 pound dumbbells. I didn't notice the other one like a hundred ton dumbbell on the ground and whatever. Another dumbbell. I didn't notice them on the ground. So I went to drop it like I was on a bench and I went to drop the weights and it got caught like a guillotine. Boom. Cuts it off. And it didn't hurt that much. And I looked at my finger and I was pissed. I thought it was my fingernail. I was like, God damn it, I saw my fingernail. I look at it again and it's a bone hanging out in the blood everywhere.

[Co-host]

I was like, oh.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

So I went up to my coach that was there and I said I had my finger all wrapped up and I said, hey, coach, I. I cut my finger. He goes, you know I'm an idiot. He's like, shut the up fake. Go back to work, you know. I said, hey, better look at it, brother. And he looks at it, open it up. He almost starts puking. Get to Doc Riley's office now. The trainer. And they take me. Emergency room guy comes in there, looks like fire Marshal Bill trying to sell my finger back on. I say sew it on backwards. My fingernail goes out reverse. And he wouldn't do it. Anyway, long story short, I get home and the finger doesn't take. So I go to the emergency room, think I have gangrene. And they said, no, it's just, it's just not circulating properly. It probably will. Give it time. I did. And then part of it turned black and I cut it off again at the gym about three months later. Got black and then hard and fell off again.

[Host]

So I'm assuming some of the problem with it.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I never went back to the hospital again. No I picked the finger up, put in my pocket, finished my workout, went home.

[Host]

So I'm assuming that the. One of the issues with. Is that you crushed it off. You didn't slice it off. So the. I'm sure the blunt trauma of trying to connect like it was. It was crushed off. I still can't wrap my mind around how it didn't hurt or anything, but. That sounds awful.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, it. I can feel the pinch. Like I said, I thought it was a fingernail. That kind of came up. It didn't feel like. It was like I cut my finger off, you know? I mean, the night before, I. It was right before our last game of the season. So I drank so much beer, I. I fell down the stairs and. And I couldn't get my cowboy boot off because my ankle was so swollen. So I thought I was there. I couldn't play the next week, you know, and then the next day I cut my finger off. Then my ankle didn't hurt no more. You know, it's like. It's like that guy said he. His mama died nuts by a mule.

[Host]

Yeah. Let me show you something about pain. Oh, man. Man, that is crazy, dude.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I think you. You ruined the All American man hall of Fame. I don't think I can induct anyone else after you. It might be over.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. I don't know if anybody can hold these shoes, brother, or this thing.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

It's done.

[Host]

You can't even hold my dead pinky.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

You couldn't hold my goddamn dead pinky.

[Host]

What?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I mean,

[Host]

I was gonna ask you'd ever so professional. Ath, you know, athleticism or AT athletics was never in the question for you. Never really sought that out. You said you failed out of college or.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No, I. I honestly thought, you know, I'd go Division 1 football. I was an allstate football player in high school, but I was dumber and got a 15 on my act. Didn't care about school. I love partying, working out. I mean, that's pretty much my life right now. The same thing I did. I was gonna say, 15 or 17 is the same thing I'm doing at 40 years old. So.

[Host]

Work, party.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. And then I was gonna go to junior college. All these big schools. I was gonna go to niu, Northern Illinois University, which is. I knew the recruiter very well. He'd been to my house, and pretty much everybody said the same thing at 15. I remember my guidance counselor said, you know, a monkey could do better than that and score a higher score than that. Mr. Finn. I said, well, Maybe next time we have the monkey do it, you know? And I ended up going to a smaller school down in Southern Illinois, which got me in. And I was like, yeah, I'll go. Instead of going to junior college, I'll go over there. I know the ACT score goes away after one year. I do pretty good there. 2.3 grade point average, which was one of my best grade point averages. I transferred to a community college to go into a. To Northern, and my grades go way down. Was not good. Went to school a couple more times and ended up failing out and working construction after that for. For a while. I remember when he called me and said, yeah, we can't get you in. And I was like, I ain't going

[Co-host]

to school no more.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

The only reason I went was to go to play football. Yeah, all those kind of dreams went away. And then when I was around 30 years old, I get. I become one of the best power. I was the best powerful in the world for a few years. Top five of all time. And I went to this thing called the Animal Cage, which is inside the Arnold. And a bunch of WWE recruiters were there and emailed me. And I was planning on. I had an invited tryout, which they had two times a year then. And two weeks before my invited tryout to the wwe, I get flown out to California, those California sweat hogs. This guy named Mark Bell, who owns Slingshot, his brother's Chris Bell. He's made a movie called Bigger, Faster, Stronger, One of my favorite documentaries. Okay. I go out there, we do all these crazy videos. I bench press £585 at 220. And when in the process of doing it, I tear my pec tenant off the bone. My first injury of all time. Did not know how bad it was at the time. I fly home, I had to have surgery. I tell the guys from WWE I can't make the tryout because of the surgery. Should be ready to go in six months. Takes a while. I come back from that surgery, tell the guys at wwe, hey, listen, I'm ready to go for the next tryout. Let me know. I'm 100. Oh, yeah, we'll let you know. And then, you know, a couple months pass by, a couple more months. And they say, yeah, actually, your age is becoming kind of an issue now, so, you know, good luck with your future. And that was it with that. So I was kind of the last involvement, any type of professional thing there. Yeah. And I thought at that time, I'm like, I everything up at that point. I had you know, I'm just prison guard, you know, I don't know what. What am I gonna do? I got nothing. You know, I'm stuck here, I guess. But little did I know, the best was yet to come. And I. I invented Huck Finn barbell, the apparel company, and everything else. And I fucking had some of the best times I've ever had. My whole life, I've. I've met my two heroes. Was Hulk Hogan, okay? And Stone Cold Steve Austin. And both of those guys asked to see me. I mean, not many people can say that they invited me out to see them. So, yeah, those are some of the biggest things that's come out of this whole Huck Finn barbell gimmick. And the. I mean, not really gimmick. I mean, this is the way I live my life is just on screen now with social media and like that.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Any chance at. At 21 beer salute of you just doing 21 beers in a row?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh, I do that in a heartbeat. I mean, I was on a podcast. I've been a lot of fitness podcasts, and one of the biggest ones in the world's elite fts. So I was out there in Ohio And I drank 22 real American beers in three hours out there. So, I mean, there's no doubt in my mind I would definitely, maybe do that. If we do have a booth, like I was saying, the Young Hill belay booth, I would 100 do that. It would be a feat of strength like nobody's ever seen. Yeah, there's the boat video. It's my website.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Great. Dude, this is one of my favorite videos of all time.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh, God, this. There's a lot. There's a good story behind that video too. So that sound like a. And the Young Hillbilly, that's the new brand there.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Love it. What's the story

[Huck Finn Barbell]

with Young Hillbilly or the story?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

No, no, no, it's a boat.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

So. So my buddy down the street, cowboy Cam, said, hey, I found this boat. This guy's getting rid of it. He ain't got no motor or anything on it, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna give it free. I said, yeah, bring it over to my house. We'll store it over here. I'm sure we'll find something to do with it. So 4th of July is coming up. I'm like, dude, we gotta do something with this fucking boat. So we go and get a bunch of illegal fireworks because we're in Illinois and we go to this fucking park that doesn't allow drinking. Does not allow boats, does not allow firework, does not allow anything. So we fucking haul that boat. There's no motor on it, so we have to get like a 200 foot fucking rope, right? And then I pale myself all the way out towards the center of this lake while people are fishing. And then I just start lighting off all the fireworks, right? And then I got the weight, which is how. It's 225. So I. I get it, and it throws me forward on the boat.

[Co-host]

It.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

The boat moves. So in my head, I'm like, if it goes in the water, I'm going with the boat or with the weights in the water, and I just. Won't see me again. All the fireworks go off. And you think I drowned, right? That would be the video.

[Host]

Plan B.

[Interviewer]

Plan B.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Right away in my head, I'm thinking that, you know, either way, it's gonna be a great video. So it ends up. I get it back up, I do it. We do the whole nine yards. People are. Some of the guys who are fishing are laughing their ass off. Some are pissed. You know, there's this old couple, it's like 80, remember? The old guy's like, hey, Mildred, you better get out here. This guy's gonna do something stupid. They're recorded from their, you know, flip phones. And it just turned out awesome, man. And then my buddy had to pull me all the way back in, you know, and cops are cut. We got to get the hell out of there, right? Fireworks are going off. People are calling the cops. We're drinking, shooting fireworks off. I mean, it was. It was an epic video, man. And then, like I said, it has been my most viral video of all time. If you don't know me or don't recognize me, they'll be like, hey, the guy in that boat video. And they'll be like, oh, yeah, I've seen that boat video.

[Host]

Yeah, that's kind of what happened.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I played that and said, someone helped me find this guy. And in 10 seconds, Nick's like, I got his number. I know.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome, man. I love it. That's the power of social media, man. So times have changed 15, 20 years ago that none of this would happen. Now there's no. People all around the world obviously, have grew a business from the palm of my hand. I don't know shit about business. I'm dumber. And luckily, my wife, Mrs. Barbell, she's smart. I mean, she had her master's degree, and she. She was a teacher or some shit like that. And she Quit her job to run our business. That took place originally out of our garage. Luckily, we made enough money now to buy a compound. She's got her own shop on her property.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Where'd you meet her at?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Typical love story, Country Thunder musical festival. I was in a man thong and cowboy boots. And I introduced myself to her. Yeah. Fell in love, man. Drinking beer.

[Co-host]

Lovely first sight.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Dad.

[Host]

How'd you meet mom?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

All I brought was a couch that I found on the side of a road, you know, a garbage couch. I threw in the back of my pickup truck. I drove the Country Thunder. I brought 10 hot dogs, 10 cases of beer for three days. That was it. And that's how I met her. I never had it. All these people have tents or RVs. I'm sleeping in a fucking couch in the middle of a cornfield for Country Thunder. Just getting shit face drunk and having the best time of my life, man.

[Host]

Yeah,

[Huck Finn Barbell]

that was. That's been a long time. I don't even know. Probably eight, 19 years ago, maybe now.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Have you ever been to a Buff Buffett, Jimmy Buffett tailgate?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No, I have not been above.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I heard it's good, dude, I will. Oh, similar to you, I walked around in a monkey thong and flip flops. That was it.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

That's the best, man.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Love playing with the monkey too, dude. It's hysterical. It's literally my dick in the monkey thong. But yeah, you put a little cute character on it,

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I think that is. You put a little character on it.

[Host]

You guys want to play with the monkey?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. I learned that back in Panama City, 2003, on spring break. I went to a store, bought a thong, bought a bunch of banana boat. And I told all the girls I work for banana boat. I'm a professional oil boy on the goddamn beach, man. I've been doing this for years. The greatest thing ever thought of. Better than the young hillbilly thing,

[Host]

man. So you have your own compound?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, we're on 10 acres out here. And got like. My house is out here, obviously. This barn gym, which it's about two 2200 square foot gym. And then we have our shop in the middle of it where she makes all of our apparel and ships out of there and everything else.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Is that where we're gonna have the. The Olympics?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Of course, man. He'd be sleeping out here in the goddamn barn. I gotta. I got all kinds of in here.

[Co-host]

How did you handle. How did you handle that transition from like just a dude that's drinking beer and a thong to like a businessman and how, like, what would you. What changed for you? Like, I know your personality surely didn't change, but when you had to, like, make these critical business decisions and get up, like, what. What. How did that go for you?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

So when I got flown out to Mark's Gym back then, when I tore my pec 10 off the bone back in 16, I saw how he's running things, and I'm like, man, this ain't. He's making all this goddamn money ain't better than me. He can't out bench me, so that makes me the king. You know what I mean? So I go home, and now I'm hurt, and with all these thoughts and. And I was sponsored by a company called eight Man Strong, which sponsors a lot of UFC fighters and stuff, which. That's a whole nother thing where I got some good stories about that too, when we flew out there and all kinds of. But. But long story short, I said, 8 Man, could you guys make me 100 shirts and say, okay, buy on it? Because at the end of every YouTube or every video, I said. I always said, okay, bye. Because of this guy who was. How do you say it? Mentally challenged that grew up down the street from me. He would look at me in. In middle conversation, just say, okay, bye, and take off. Dad, you say, always. Okay bites. Easiest way to end any anything. If I want to get off here right now, you say, okay, bye, and just leave, right? So I put those on a shirt, and I sold a hundred, 100 shirts in. In a day. And I'm like, oh, man, we're on to something. So then I said, hey, could you put. Build the chest the rest on that shirt? You know, three months later, another hundred shirts in like a day or two. And then my wife got pregnant by me, and she's like, hey, I don't want to be a teacher anymore. I want to, you know, raise the kid and everything. And I said, well, we have to have this much money to survive. Why don't we just make shirts? You know, fuck if we. If we can. If we can sell this many, we could easily survive and just learn how to make shirts. Shirts. So, okay, So I waited on Craigslist. Then when a shirt company went out of business, what do you call it? Printing ink printing or screen printing company went out of business near Chicago. And I seen it kept going down in price, and I'm like, all right, let's go low ball them. I'll get this cheap. So I go in there, I lowball them, they accept, and they're like fucking Russian or something. One guy's not even speaking English and it's, it's over by o' Hare Fields. And I said, hey, all right, I'll be back. And I pay him, but I pay him in. What's that called? I don't know what they call that,

[Co-host]

the on the phone cash app or something?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No, the one that hillbillies use.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Venmo?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, like Venmo, but not Venmo. It's the other one. Anyways, I pay them through PayPal. That way if something happens, I get my money back, right? So I go get this U haul truck to get all this and I'm with, I pick my brother in law up and he's nervous as hell, he's scared, you know, he's. I come out, this guy's yelling a different language and, and this other guy's like, hey, listen, this, you didn't pay us, you owe us like 800. Like, oh, you. And my, my brother in law's eyes are like saucers. He just stops and he's like, well, the. They took money because it's a gift. I don't know what it was. You whatever. And I said no, we made the deal. I pressed accept. You did gone. I said, brandon, get all this, load it up right now. And I'm like, dude, watch your back. They might fucking shoot us. So keep loading the shit. Let's get the out of here. Luckily didn't have my address. And we got out of there, took it all the way home, put it in my two car garage at my last house. And then Mrs. Barbell learned how to screen print and the, the business took off. I didn't know to take off or not. You never know. It's just a risk we took and it's the best risk I ever took. And luckily she knows a little bit of. About business and everything else out. She handles everything except for like the videos and how I market it, which I've organically. Organically? Is that all? They say that in la. Organically marketed everything through Huck Finn Barbell. Pretty much my Instagram. I've never paid one cent for. When all these other are paying, you know, whatever they pay. And they have their own team. My team is me sitting here doing this. I call it drinking, thinking, right? So I'm sitting out here drinking, thinking. I'm just writing dumbass ideas down, man. And some of them hit like a, like this thing up here. I don't know if you can see that. No, you can't. I don't got it says, deport anyone who can't bench their body weight. And that shirt sold like a. For two years. Right. The other one, one of my other good hits was this Liver King guy. Claims to be when he first came out. Yep, he's a liver king and all this. And he's eating testicles, you know, And I say, no, no, the real Liver King is Huck Finn, because my liver is king.

[Host]

Right.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

And I say at the end of this video where I'm walk through the woods with four cases of beer and a backpack of beer on me, I say one more thing. Real alphas don't eat testicles. They eat. Okay, bam. I put that on a shirt and it sold. One of the highest sellers we've ever had.

[Host]

Ever. Yeah, the. I heard. I was on a podcast recently and he was talking about, he's like, you know, a husband and wife couple are the best. Because as far as business, because a CEO is or sorry, a visionary can't be the CEO. The guy with the ideas that's got the vision is not a good person to be running it because somebody has to go, love it, but let's control it, let's tame it, let's box it, let's ship it. Like, we've gotta like, it's got to make sense business wise. And the in the visionary is like, let's go. I got all these ideas and so it is a perfect combo of, you know, doing stuff like that. Me and my wife do that, you know, and it works because I have all the ideas in the world. If it was up to me, I'd have 18 businesses. Sometimes it just doesn't work.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh, she tries to real, I mean, obviously reel me in all the time. I remember when I, when I came out with that testicle T shirt, she's

[Host]

like, ah, I don't know.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

You putting and testicle on a shirt. I just put it out there. We'll see if it sells itself. Who's gonna want to buy this? Who's gonna want to buy it? It's our best selling shirt ever. You know, there's just some. You just don't know, man. That's why I was never afraid to put on a shirt. Because why would I put like f and then like a hashtag or whatever the it is and see, no, no, no, I'm Huck Finn. I would never do that. So why would I do it on a shirt?

[Co-host]

The audience that would also not give a that it's on a shirt. Like, you don't want some purple haired buying it. Either you want your real hardcore American buying it, so they're gonna buy it.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Tyler, you guys need to bring this dude back. I got news for you, pal. I'm the new co host.

[Host]

This is the NWO takeover.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. This is a revolution.

[Host]

Yeah, but what you said about your marketing was. Is that's why it's so important to. If you have your own brand already. When I mean brand, I mean personality or. Or outreach is that you don't have to worry about like meta ads saying we're not going to promote that shirt or Facebook or like Facebook store or Instagram store. Like we're not posting any of this because it's offensive. Like you already have your own.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. Market. Yeah. Organic. Right.

[Host]

You know, so that's super important. And not be subject to meta or just at really the.

[Co-host]

The people.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Twitter. Before Elon Musk bought it, I had a huge following on Twitter. They kicked me off for nothing for being a man. You know, I know at that time they were saying if you said stuff about COVID or politics or all the other. They kick you off. I'll just drink a beer being a. And that was it. And they threw me off. I'm like, what the. Is this Nazi Germany, for Christ's sakes? You can't be. I put a thing on there saying I'm training to beat the Russians because I hate Russia. Okay. So I'm doing pull ups over here and they say, oh no, that's offensive. Offensive in 1980. That was not offensive. Have you ever seen Rocky 4 Huck?

[Nick the Gun Guy]

You got a guy you need. You got a guy you need to debate. He's a commie.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Oh God. You see my shirt says communism. That's another one that's sold like a.

[Host]

Yeah, we'll have to bring you on.

[Co-host]

I don't know if he's ready for that.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Dude.

[Host]

Yeah, this poor guy's not ready for you.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

We dropped it a year ago January.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

So about again, dude.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah, no, it's out. It's on the site. It's. We just restocked it a month ago. I sold out of every. We have all these banners. Actually there might be one left now. I. There might not be. I don't think. Maybe there's not. But I have a banner and then obviously the shirt that deport anyone who can't bench their body weight.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

That's great.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

That doesn't apply to women. Okay. That's just men.

[Host]

We got a super chat. Joezilla. I'm listening to this while taking my grandma to the doctor and huck has made her laugh several times. Much appreciated. Build the chest.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

The rest chodezilla. Thank you very much, my friend. Good luck to your grandma.

[Co-host]

Grandma's joining the gym right after the doctor.

[Host]

She's

[Huck Finn Barbell]

already went through three beers. I gotta grab one more. Hold on.

[Interviewer]

All right,

[Host]

give him a countdown. He's only got four minutes to drink it.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Okay, I think it'll be done.

[Host]

He just drank. He drank one in 1.5 seconds.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Yep. When's the last time you shotgun the beer?

[Interviewer]

Oh, man.

[Host]

Man.

[Co-host]

All right.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

What did I miss?

[Co-host]

Guinness chugging.

[Host]

The last time we shotgun to beard. I can't even remember.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Me neither.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

I got four minutes.

[Host]

Me neither.

[Co-host]

What? So you. You're your own guy. You don't have any spot. Are you sponsored by people or are you just your own brand?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Well, I may have had. I've had spot icon meals I've been sponsored by for nine years.

[Co-host]

They care about what you say or they're just like, absolutely not.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

If you give a what I say, there's no that.

[Co-host]

We're not.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

We're not going to get.

[Co-host]

That's what I'm getting at. Like, I don't know.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

You cannot reel me in. I mean, when I got with American Beer, it was great at first, right? Then somebody else took over the marketing thing, and the lady's like, you got to send me everything. I've got to approve everything. And I'm like, I tell my wife, I ain't doing this. I don't give a flying how much money they pay me. I'm like, I'm gonna do these videos. If you want to give her the. You can, because I ain't doing it. Okay? So my wife ended up going back and forth with everything, right? And, I mean, I had some great One video, got like a million views. And me turned into a bald eagle while I was drinking the beer at a bar. And I jumped off the bar. It was great. You know, you can't. You can't, like, tell me what to do because I'm gonna come up with the best idea. You're not, you know, you're a fucking. Some lady that works in an office. I'm a fucking hillbillies in the backwoods that knows what the goddamn people want. Just, like, up when they should have had some fucking mullet wearing that actually drinks their beer. Do their content.

[Host]

Yeah, and then you get sponsors, you know, it's like, you gotta trust me to sell your product. I know how to sell your product. I know how to sell your product, too. I do better than that you can. Well, yeah, exactly. Especially when I'm selling to people that support me. I know how to sell it. You don't. And they'll say no strong and you're weak.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I'm gonna over here wants to be like in your pathetic.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Nick the gun guy commented. Obviously we're in Orlando. You are ever near Orlando, the door is open for sure. 100 in studio. We'll buy all the beer. You can chug away. We'll put a bench in there and you can.

[Host]

We'll build a beer like at the hockey games. We'll build a beer thing.

[Co-host]

Yeah, the beer tower.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No, I gotta get down to Florida, man. I love Florida. I've been down there a ton. I usually go a lot of times at Clearwater. I've never been to Orlando. I mean that's kind of too fancy, right? Orlando, Disney World.

[Co-host]

Yeah, that general area is very, very rainbow. Very rainbowy.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah. Yeah, I like Clearwater, that area. They're pretty rough out there.

[Host]

Yeah, Tampa's that whole. Well, not the Tampa the city, but everything surrounding Tampa on that side of Florida is really good.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Yeah.

[Host]

But yeah, man, everybody's told us just now that they'd love for you to come back on. So I think, you know, we'd love to have you come back on. Give us good, huh?

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No.

[Host]

Yeah. The American Man Club.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

It's a great show, man. I gotta start listening to this. The Anti Hero broadcast or podcast they call it. What do you call this?

[Co-host]

We're on every day 11:11 to 1, Monday through Friday. So there's. It doesn't have to be this long. We can give you a 15 minute spot, come in and pump everybody up, get everybody ready for the show and then get off.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

I could do whatever you guys. I'm off usually Tuesday, Wednesdays I got shitty days off right now. So I work during. During the week. Except for Tuesday, Wednesday. So they got Huck Finn Barbell. Tuesday maybe or some.

[Co-host]

There you go.

[Host]

Yeah, let's do it Tuesday or Wednesday we'll. But this is where you find it. Huckfinbarbell.com and then obviously you just go to shop or you can put forward slash shop. And this is where you can get all this apparel in house made by them, not drop shipping. Good stuff.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

No, we don't do that. If you're lucky enough, you probably got Mrs. Barbell's beer spill in your order. You know, you order from those guys from LA, you might get their lipstick on your order, Ms. Barbell.

[Host]

I love it. All right, Huck Finn. Thank you for so, so much for coming on. Appreciate it. And we'll have you on soon. Catch up again, man. This has been awesome experience. Lots of clips worthy. So be on the lookout for that, especially the pinky one. That was good.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

Okay, bye.

[Huck Finn Barbell]

Thank you. Okay, bye boys. Okay, bye.

[Nick the Gun Guy]

JV team for life.

[Host]

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