Hood Rat Stuff feat. Allied Threads

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: “Hood Rat Stuff feat. Allied Threads” – Detailed Summary

Release Date: July 7, 2025

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Introduction to Critical Incidents and Resource Management

Brent Tucker opens the discussion by emphasizing the inevitability of critical incidents such as natural disasters and shootings, highlighting the necessity for effective response mechanisms. He states, “Right now, really, whether you’re a fire department, EMS, law enforcement, you’re stuck with essentially radios” (01:10). This segues into a conversation about Apollo, a resource management app designed specifically for first responders.

Unknown Contributor introduces Apollo as “the best way to manage resources during these events because it’s designed by first responders for first responders” (01:42). Brent elaborates on Apollo’s functionalities, mentioning its “common operating picture” that allows real-time tracking of personnel on a map, reducing the need for constant radio communication (01:50).

Quotes:

• Brent Tucker: “It gives first responders a common operating picture...” (01:50)
• Unknown Contributor: “Apollo is the best way to manage resources...” (01:42)

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Personal Experiences with Cold Weather and Apparel

The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes about living in Florida and dealing with unexpected cold weather. Brent Tucker humorously discusses his extensive collection of jackets, partly due to issued gear and personal trips, stating, “I have so many jackets, and I can’t get rid of one” (05:52). Tyler shares his first winter experience in Florida, highlighting the stark contrast to its usual heat (04:53).

Unknown Contributor mentions their apparel company struggles with seasonal merchandise, noting, “We sell so many hoodies at conventions because the convention itself is cold” (06:47).

Quotes:

• Brent Tucker: “I have so many jackets, and I can’t get rid of one” (05:52)
• Unknown Contributor: “We sell so many hoodies at conventions...” (06:47)

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Allied Threads: Company Overview and Mission

Tyler, owner of Counterculture, Inc., introduces Allied Threads as a personal identity protection company that evolved from an apparel business. The flagship product, the Raid Beanie, serves dual purposes as both a beanie and a ski mask. Tyler explains the thoughtful design behind their products, emphasizing comfort and functionality: “They dry extremely fast, which leads to being able to stay in that situation and have your balaclava on” (12:24).

Brent Tucker and Unknown Contributor discuss the implications of face-covering in both protestors and law enforcement, debating the necessity and perception of concealed identities during operations (12:38 and 13:01).

Quotes:

• Tyler: “They dry extremely fast, which leads to being able to stay in that situation...” (12:24)
• Brent Tucker: “There's a double-edged sword...” (12:38)

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Community Building and Support Initiatives

Tyler outlines Allied Threads’ community-driven approach, highlighting the creation of state-based chapters aimed at fostering camaraderie and providing a support network, especially for veterans. He introduces the Welcome Home Initiative, a project focused on mental health support, where leadership identifies individuals in need and integrates them into the community for assistance and purposeful activities (32:34).

Brent Tucker emphasizes the importance of community and purpose in preventing isolation and negative behaviors, stating, “There's an acceptable amount” of societal issues, acknowledging the complexity and nuances involved (29:35 and 37:15).

Quotes:

• Tyler: “Our core values of Allied is friendship, having each other's back...” (33:11)
• Brent Tucker: “There's an acceptable amount...” (29:35)

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Addressing Crime and Law Enforcement Challenges

The hosts delve into the dynamics between law enforcement and criminal organizations, particularly cartels. Brent Tucker shares insights on how cartels adapt and operate within U.S. borders compared to other terrorist organizations like ISIS, arguing that cartels pose a more immediate and vicious threat (25:29).

Tyler recounts a personal encounter with a security guard at a warehouse where they were creating content, leading to confusion and suspicion. This story underscores the challenges of navigating security interactions and the fine line between lawful operations and perceived threats (84:43 to 95:07).

Quotes:

• Brent Tucker: “Cartels are more capable to do something about it than ISIS” (25:29)
• Tyler: “This was weird... security guard kind of puts his hand on his gun...” (84:43)

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Second Amendment Discussion and Gun Rights

A significant portion of the episode centers on the Second Amendment and gun rights. Tyler passionately defends the right to bear arms, insisting that the Second Amendment should remain untouched: “The Second Amendment... Thou shalt not infringe” (78:09). Brent Tucker echoes this sentiment, arguing against gun laws that only affect law-abiding citizens and do not deter criminals: “Gun laws are stupid... because there's a gun behind every blade of grass” (79:22).

Quotes:

• Tyler: “The Second Amendment... Thou shalt not infringe” (78:09)
• Brent Tucker: “Gun laws are stupid... because there's a gun behind every blade of grass” (79:22)

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Allied Threads’ Future Plans and Innovations

Looking ahead, Tyler shares Allied Threads’ ambitions to expand its product line to include innovative personal security gear, such as tattoo-covering sleeves and advanced balaclavas. He envisions growing the community to cover all 50 states and enhancing collaborations with law enforcement through training programs (71:18 and 73:33).

Brent Tucker discusses challenges in standardizing tactical training for law enforcement, advocating for decentralized approaches that allow departments to tailor training to their specific needs while maintaining high standards (66:05 to 68:42).

Quotes:

• Tyler: “We want to continue to innovate and create the best personal security gear...” (71:18)
• Brent Tucker: “It’s hard to get a hold of though.” (66:05)

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Community Interactions and Real-Life Incidents

The episode concludes with Tyler recounting a peculiar incident involving a security guard at a warehouse where they were shooting content. The guard’s aggressive behavior and subsequent interactions raised questions about surveillance and privacy, highlighting the fine line between lawful actions and misunderstandings with law enforcement (83:31 to 96:28).

Quotes:

• Tyler: “This cop is just trying to bait me to... I don't know what he's trying to do.” (89:22)
• Brent Tucker: “You're just not the guy...” (85:27)

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Notable Moments and Humor

Throughout the episode, the hosts interject humor and light-hearted moments, such as discussing the awkward interaction with the security guard and joking about their own apparel designs. These segments provide a balance to the serious topics, making the conversation engaging and relatable.

Quotes:

• Tyler: “I'm not crazy.” (00:00)
• Brent Tucker: “You're not that guy.” (00:19)

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Conclusion

“Hood Rat Stuff feat. Allied Threads” offers an in-depth look into the intersection of personal security, community support, law enforcement challenges, and gun rights. Through candid conversations and personal anecdotes, the hosts provide valuable insights into creating a supportive community while navigating the complexities of modern-day threats and societal issues.

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Timestamp References

• 00:00 to 99:46: Full episode transcript coverage.
• Sample Timestamps:
  • 01:10: Brent on critical incidents.
  • 12:24: Tyler on Raid Beanie design.
  • 32:34: Tyler on community initiatives.
  • 78:09: Tyler on Second Amendment.
  • 89:22: Tyler recounts security guard incident.

Note: Each timestamp corresponds to the conversation flow in the transcript provided.

Transcript

[Tyler]

The security guard kind of puts his hand on his gun and I'm just like, what the dude? Like, bro, no, like, right. Bad idea. Like, this guy's crazy. Not me. I'm not crazy.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm just bringing a, bringing a pistol to a, to a multi. Yeah, to a multi gun fight.

[Tyler]

It wouldn't have been easy for him.

[Brent Tucker]

You're not that guy.

[Unknown]

Hold on, we're not recording. Do you want to buy a shirt to support military dance? People want to see their sausage get made.

[Brent Tucker]

An appropriate level of inappropriateness. Something happens family tonight. The Delta Force isn't. Isn't coming to rescue my, my family, my kids. Like it is. First responders that are, that are going to save my, my family.

[Unknown]

They want the culture to be down. They want people to not want to be cops. And the people that do want to be cops are now walking into the job scared to do the job.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm going to try to act like it didn't happen, although we, we all know it did.

[Unknown]

JV team for life.

[Brent Tucker]

Tyler, how many critical incidents do you think we've covered so far in this podcast, man?

[Unknown]

At least five, six.

[Brent Tucker]

And they're not going to stop, you know, there's. You cannot stop them all. So they're going to happen. And you really have, you know, two charters at that. Obviously one is to stop them from happening, but since you can't stop them all from happening, you owe it to the people that you protect and depend on you to react to those situations in the most effective and efficient manner. And right now, really, whether, you know, you're a fire department, ems, law enforcement, you're stuck with essentially radios.

[Unknown]

And Apollo is the best way to manage resources during these events because it's designed by first responders for first responders.

[Brent Tucker]

It gives first responders a common operating picture which allows them to see where everybody is in real time, overlaid onto a map to see where they are. You can drop pinpoints and let them know where they need to go. And without constant talking on the radio, everybody knows where the incident is, where it's happening, and where they need to be.

[Unknown]

Nepal is an app based application. This is just download and go.

[Brent Tucker]

It's an app and so it works with androids, it works with iPhones, and.

[Unknown]

Apollo makes sure on the back end everything works and you can just plug and go. They handle all the licensing, all the encryption compliance, all the security. It's all handled by Apollo. It's crucial to know where everyone is and what they are doing in order to effectively control chaos in one of these either natural disasters or shootings or anything like that.

[Brent Tucker]

So if you want to learn more about Apollo, scan the QR code and ensure your department is ready to react to any crisis in its most effective and efficient manner possible.

[Unknown]

JV team for life. Guys look a lot scarier than I do.

[Brent Tucker]

I do. Had a friend whose nickname for his girlfriend was dry socket, but that's. But that's a different topic.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

Apparently I feel like I could make inappropriate jokes if my face is covered.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Freedom.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I say whatever I want.

[Brent Tucker]

Is this how a la Rider feels? You can do whatever you want with your face covered.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Did your sales go up when those rides hit?

[Brent Tucker]

I don't think they're going to your website.

[Tyler]

These were originally created because I'm just a big Internet troll. I want anybody to know who I was.

[Unknown]

Yeah, that works.

[Brent Tucker]

But, you know, I say this halfway. Believe it. I mean, there's money to be made in. In every. In every, you know, chaotic, chaotic situation. Like, I hate Covid, but you know how much money someone could have made any of us if. If you knew Covid was coming around and what you would have invested in.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

And had supplies, masks, hand sanitizer, toilet paper. Like, you could have become rich off of it.

[Tyler]

Actually, like, became famous during that time because they were allowed to be pretty much everywhere as a. Oh, yeah.

[Unknown]

So when, before COVID hit in Florida, there used to be a statute saying that you couldn't wear a mask at night. Like, you can't, because obviously no good's going to come from that. And then Covid hit, and now they couldn't enforce that anymore.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I can imagine why. Yeah, I got to wear a mask, man.

[Unknown]

Oh, I have code.

[Brent Tucker]

What if it's like 30 degrees? I'm telling you, unless you're from Florida, Central Florida, Southern Florida, high humidity. There's. I'm. There's Nothing colder than 34 degree Florida weather. Yeah, it just.

[Unknown]

I don't know what it is.

[Brent Tucker]

It chills.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I 100 my first winter living in Florida, I was like, this is not Florida. Like, compared to the summer, this is night and day.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Like, you go up. Up north when it's snowing, and it's like you can stand out there in shorts and a T shirt and play in the snow out here. Man. That. Is, that. Is that wet weather?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

I have two theories on that. Could be wrong. One, it's. It's a lot drier and so it's not as bad, but typical cold is cold. And second of all, like, when you go up to the mountains and you go snow skiing. Like, you bring clothes, like, appropriate clothes for it. You know, like when you're in Florida, what's. What's the best. What's the best. You're going to come out with a jacket, jeans. Like, that's how many people.

[Unknown]

They don't have a own jacket out. I don't own one.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Unknown]

I don't think so.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, a hoodie and jeans. I mean, that's just not going to do it. In extreme cold conditions, you actually have.

[Unknown]

More jackets than most people. I know I have.

[Brent Tucker]

I have my downstairs, like, closet, like, guest closet is just full of jackets. I don't know where I got all those jackets from. I have so many jackets, and I can't get. And I can't get rid of one. Like, I. I just moved again. I did get rid of a few, but I still have way too many, and I don't know why. Oh, I don't wear them.

[Unknown]

Are they issue jackets? Are they?

[Brent Tucker]

Half are issued, half are from trips, half are me not bringing a jacket.

[Unknown]

When you have to buy one.

[Brent Tucker]

Getting cold and violet jacket.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

One of my jackets is right over there.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Well, okay. Well, we sell merch. I should have taken your advice because we just went to Ohio and I was, like, looking at what merch to bring because I have an apparel company, so I have to really watch out on how much, you know, I bring because I take up too much space in the trailer. And so I was looking at the hoodies, I'm like, it's June. I'm not gonna sell anything. We get to Ohio, it's 65 degrees in rain.

[Tyler]

That'll do it.

[Brent Tucker]

We sell so many hoodies at conventions because the convention itself is cold. And people, you know, we just went to Nashville, we sold it, you know, a dozen hoodies, because people, they're going to Nashville. It's warm, but the convention's cold.

[Unknown]

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[Brent Tucker]

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[Unknown]

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[Brent Tucker]

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[Unknown]

Well, you guys are probably wondering why we're wearing ski masks, but if you haven't figured out yet, we're here with from Allied Threads and that's about all I know.

[Brent Tucker]

I thought it was because the AC went out of control and it's freezing in here.

[Tyler]

Faces needed to be warm.

[Unknown]

Do you have my phone over there?

[Brent Tucker]

I do.

[Unknown]

So we purposely. I, I learned a little bit about you out there but I, Brent stayed in here honestly because I wanted him to ask you basic questions of why so what the who, what when, where, why what? You can tell us what you guys do because you guys said you, you guys have a lot of non profits that are veteran based. Then we kind of got into a little bit of two way talk but I was like save it for the podcast.

[Tyler]

A good part of information, right? Oh yeah. Well, I mean just to kind of dive right into it. Allied Threads is a personal identity protection company. We started out as an apparel company. There was just apparel company. Every corner you turned around. So we were like, let's kind of make this company a purpose driven business with a product that is actually useful. Our first product was the Raid Beanie, which is what we're wearing. Essentially it's a beanie that turns into whiskey mask. So there was a couple of reasons why they were created.

[Unknown]

It doubles, huh?

[Tyler]

Oh yeah, yeah. That is the main. Our main product right now. We dove into, you know, we're doing things specifically for law enforcement and military right now that we don't really have on our website. Just for testing purposes. We've got. But every. Everything we're doing is meant to protect identities. Whether you're military, Leo, or you're just don't want people to know who you are. We've got something for everybody. But the balaclavas that we've make, they're designed from the ground up with materials that have never been used for any athletic gear. When it comes to sweating, especially when you have a balaclav on for a long period of time, they can get uncomfortable whether it's just soaking in sweat, not drying properly, just like the adjustments or whatever it may be that we spent the last year developing a balaclava that is universally comfortable for pretty much everybody that we've given. And they dry extremely fast, which leads to being able to stay in that, say that situation and have your Bella claw on and not be like, oh, I need to adjust this all the time. The Raid beanies, the way they were designed.

[Unknown]

That's a Raid beanie.

[Tyler]

This is a Raid beanie. We have a few different iterations. The most, the one that we just dropped was a. It's got a Velcro patch on it so that we can swap out patches with all of our other drops. All of our beauties from now on will have some type of patch that can be transferred onto. So when it goes into beanie mode.

[Brent Tucker]

There'S either either identification or.

[Tyler]

Right and.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. So the. Here's. Here's something that. And it's. It's been brought up before and in our life. There's. On our lives, there's. There's it's a double edged sword and we always tell protesters, hey, if you have to cover your face, you're probably doing something wrong.

[Tyler]

That's true.

[Brent Tucker]

There's. There's a lot of truth of that. Now here's a devil's advocate. I have an answer for it. But I should see what you say and I'll have to what you say as well? Well, when, when law enforcement covers their face, is it, is it the same, Is it the same thing? If you're, if you're abiding by the law and you're carrying out a, you know, a legal raid, why should, why should you cut. Why should you hide your identity?

[Unknown]

I think my opinion is that it's, there's. Sometimes they justify it as like officer safety. Like, I know there's a lot of departments that take them during protests and civil unrest. They take their name takes. Just because it's so heated, it's so passionate and personal. You know, the, the rules of the game change, just like we talk about lethal force changes during civil unrest. You know, so I feel like it's just so they can be an entity of the government, which and we talked about is not good. No. Or it might be intimidation.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah. I guess when, when I think of that, like, I think, well, if we lived in a perfect world and people abided by the law, the law wouldn't have to. And what I mean by that is rioters are breaking the law intentionally. And that's why. And that's why they, they're trying to hide their identity. Law enforcement, unfortunately has to keep their identity in certain situations. Like ICE is probably a good example right now. Not because they're doing something illegal right now, but for safety to keep you from doing something illegal to them later.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Brent Tucker]

So it's not that they're doing something legal. It has to do with you not liking the law and wanting to do, do something illegal and protect themselves and their family.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I think overall, when anybody hides their face, there's a reason behind it. I think out of everybody, law enforcement has a reason. Especially with the way the world is going, you don't know who you're going to run into, whether it's your, your, your name on your uniform or your face. I mean, there's, for instance, in Arizona, we have a couple of law enforcement officers on our main team. And one of the things they love about them is sometimes they'll do raids and they may or may not be, you know, interacting with cartel. Right. They're ruthless human beings. They can find information there. That's what they're good at, if, you know. Yeah. And if they're not protecting their face or their identity in general, their person, personal security is compromised. And none of them want, you know, that, that lifestyle to follow them home.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And so having something that protects your face and your identity is just, in my opinion, I think it's a Must with the way the world's working right now and even during the riots, I think that having something for the officers to protect their identity, it may look bad from let's say just a random Joe Schmo, but that's, they're not looking at it from a point of view of these officers who are risking their lives and, and their identities in general. I think it's just a, it's a must have. I.

[Brent Tucker]

Well again they wouldn't have to, they wouldn't have to if people just respect the law like but they have to because you did something illegal, you're upset that someone caught you doing something legal is going to do something about it, then you're going to retaliate, you know, over that. We, we talk about this like the, you know, I lived in a very dangerous world for, you know, for a long time but I came home and I never, never worried about my, my own safety or you know, my family safety. Police officers have to go live and eat and grocery shop and their wives and kids do in the same exact community that they go after bad guys. It's, it's something I never had to deal with.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I mean what this is what I was going to the cartels. I don't, I'm not going to ask. I don't know if you have any experience in batting that issue but I think that the cartels are a little bit different than ISIS or Al Qaeda or the Taliban because they're just that they're at the border and so like when they're talking about sending special operations down there to deal with it, whether however that may be, I think it's a little bit more dangerous. Do you do. I don't know why I feel that way but like them finding you.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, I feel that way because they, they are, they're already pre positioned just south of our border. We already know we have a border problem and if they want to come over, they come over anytime. And what. And more, more than likely they don't even have to come over. They already have people that are already over here and so they have syndicates. They can just be like hey go go take care of this. So cartels have a, you know, are much more capable to do something about it than isis. Isis. There's an ocean that, that separates us. There's just not. And I know some of you who, who saw, I won't even say her name who goes around and, and fear mongers about hey, there's ISIS cells that are getting ready to be, you know, Turned on, it'll be nine, eleven times a hundred. She's an intel person. Like, that's their job, you know, to, to fear monger. But they haven't. They haven't done it yet. If they could have done it, they would have already. It's a whole nother discussion. People can hate the Patriot act all they want and, and rightfully so, if, if we're being honest. But it has. But it is law. It was passed as law. And it's done a lot of good things. And we've stopped a lot of acts before. They happen more than people will ever really know. And that's why the Patriot act is. Is still around, because it gets results. But it gets results in ways that you'll never know because it didn't hit the news because the terror act never happened.

[Unknown]

Oh, that's true. It's kind of like when we talk about law enforcement, the amount of crime that you deter, you can't. There's no way to track it. Know, like.

[Brent Tucker]

Right. There's no statistics for that.

[Unknown]

Yeah. That business didn't get broken into because you were sitting there. There's no way to know.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

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[Tyler]

I think the one of the major problems with Cartel. I'm from Arizona originally I'm from Washington.

[Unknown]

One fact we've learned about you.

[Brent Tucker]

Go on.

[Tyler]

But I that's where the company's based. That's most of our interaction is with individuals in Arizona. I live 80 miles from the border. I live in a very nice neighborhood that doesn't look like there would necessarily be any type of criminal activity. We've never had any break ins. But over the last three or four months there is a house in our neighborhood that has confirmed cartel members living in it. And it's terrifying because it's literally in my neighborhood.

[Brent Tucker]

And what do you think the, the other side of that is? I wouldn't trust this completely, but that's where they live. And they, they normally want to keep. They don't want to poop where they eat.

[Tyler]

Oh yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

You know, and draw attention to them. So they want to keep that nice and keep that away from them. Do you think that plays. You think that's true or. At the end of the day, when push comes to shove, they're there. They don't care. It, you know, violence and crime follows them.

[Tyler]

I mean from, from my understanding, from what I've been told by people who work with these individuals and see this every day and where I live is they fit in very well. That's their, that's what they do. Over a long period of time, they have adapted to keeping a low profile so that they can continue doing the activities that they're doing without being caught or even sniffed out. Right. The, the housing that I'm talking about is. You would never know. Yeah, it's terrifying.

[Unknown]

The mafia has been known to live really nice areas and they just like you said, they abide by the law. They have great relationships with the local PD because they're not trying to. But I don't know if the cartel is like ride or die. Like I operate 24 7, not 9 to 5. Just sticks.

[Brent Tucker]

It's. I'll just the, the mob. I mean I almost said something but I'm like, no, that's not true. I was, I was say, well you know, the, the cartel is kind of like a mob and a gang, you know. But, but, but so is the mob. I mean if we think the mob just American name for, for cartel. I mean. Yep, that's. There's. If you really go to some, some of like the really dirtiest, you know, stories of the mob, I don't think you'd be able to tell a big, A big difference Cartel man.

[Unknown]

They. Things they do on video to air people. The mob ever did that.

[Brent Tucker]

I feel like I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to disrespect the mob by, by saying they're not as savage as the cartel and have the mob go, yeah, watch this. Yeah, I don't, I. But that's on surface level, you know, we haven't done a deep dive on this, but yeah, I do think. I think it almost. I want to say the comment section will crazy on this. I'm sure they'll go crazy both ways. I think most people would agree that cartels are more, at the end of the day, just a step above the mob when it comes to just viciousness and crime. But I'm sure there are plenty of. Of examples out there of. Of the mob. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The mob doing the same thing.

[Unknown]

People's toes with hammers.

[Tyler]

Well, I mean, we all have seen the movie the Godfather.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Half that stuff I'm sure is from.

[Unknown]

I've never seen that movie.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Unknown]

Yeah, I've never seen. I know. I know that a lot. Never seen the Godfather. And I feel like it's one of those things where if I watch it now, I just won't get. I can be like, oh, it's a good movie, but I won't.

[Brent Tucker]

You know what? It took me. So I was trying to connect the dots on this. This is why I think the cartels are just a step above the mob. It's because they're operating in an environment where the government doesn't have as much control, and it allows them to be. And to be a little bit more. If the. If the United States would have been as loose as Mexico, I think the mob would have absolutely like water, you know, like moved to the. To the path of least resistance and would have gone as far as they would have been able to go. The only reason they weren't because they're. They're the cartel.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

In America. And America is just. Is just better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's parameters that they had to work into, but I think they did a pretty good job of working inside those parameters.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Who do you think's more savage, ISIS or the cartels? That a conversation I probably know. Analytical data to know. But Because, I mean, I know you.

[Brent Tucker]

Guys have isis, but. But you know what? I'm gonna use that same argument on that. I believe the cartels would have. So, I mean, I'm just at. Mexico isn't real great about parameters, but there's still a legitimate government and there's. They still have a police force and they still have a military. At the end of the day, will push back, you know, at some point. And they've proven that, you know, they have isis. When they took over half Assyria, the Syrians gave no resistance. They dropped their weapons and ran. And ISIS ran half Assyria and almost half of Iraq at one point as their own government. And so when they're having 8 year old kids do CQB through a house and training, but with live hostages that, you know, instead of paper targets, they have live enemy combatant prisoners for targets. They're having eight year old kids run through the house and murder them. I think the cartels would do that if, if they could, if they could get away with it. Yeah, I think ISIS is worse, but only because they had the ability to be worse.

[Unknown]

Good insight.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah. Yeah. ISIS was horrible. They, they really were. But, but isis. I'm not saying they're gone, but they, you know, they definitely. They're not. What, what, what they were. Terrorism. Well, you'll never completely stamp out terrorism. You'll never complete. We haven't, we haven't completely stomped out the mob, if we're being honest.

[Tyler]

Very true. Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

All right. You just have to get them down to a. You'll. I go all the way as far. You'll never stamp out racism. And people are gonna hate this like it has because it'll never be gone. Like there's an, it has to be to a. Almost hate to say it this way. An acceptable amount. Yeah, I know people say, well, there's no acceptable amount of bullying or racism, but the real world, you know, there's. There's an acceptable amount that is not, that is not a. And it's a low, low threshold.

[Unknown]

Gets that level.

[Brent Tucker]

Yes.

[Unknown]

You know.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Unknown]

You got, you, you mentioned that you have chapters. So Allied Threads is a company at face value.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Unknown]

And. But is it more of a, like a front like.

[Tyler]

Allied Threads is definitely a business. Produces profit, but the main, what we, how we grow and why we grow so rapidly and the engagement we have comes from our community. About six months ago, I was like, how can. I mean, I'm sure you guys run into the same problem on Instagram. Social media in general. They don't cater to anything I do. Right. And so most of our videos and our pictures, I mean, we spend a lot of time editing and very good at it, you know, and, and so at the end of the day, it's one of those situations where you have to essentially find a way around it. Right. And how we did that was we had, you know, it's our, our fan base and the people, our customers are spread out all over the world. We ship everywhere. So I was like, let's do this. Let's find people that we can trust that are motivated, that believe in, you know, the, the core values of Allied and the main core value we have is I met One of my best friends from allied and I'm 37 years old. Right. Most of us think of best friends as. You know, I, I've, I do have friends that I've known since third grade and they're really good friends, but I've known them since third grade. Usually as you grow, you all lose interest in different things and you have different hobbies. Right. So finding someone at 37 years old that had the same ideology and, and we had the same interests, I'm like, well this is cool, right? And we've just been inseparable since. And so if I can connect someone with someone like that in their lives or give them a home in Allied, which is why we started all the chapters as well, is we created groups with each state. Right now we have 22, there's about 10 that are extremely active. Missouri, Texas, California, Arizona is our own. So we don't really have a chapter there. It's just us, we're, we all work together, we have leadership. The goal of those groups is to create like minded groups of people and be able to go out do hood rat shit like we do. Because that's our comments all the time. Oh, how do we come hang out with you? It's like just let us help you do it yourself.

[Unknown]

What are the core values?

[Tyler]

Our core values of Allied is friendship, having each other's back, giving. It's a home. It's more of an ideology of Allied is a home for people that don't fit in anywhere or don't have that camaraderie with their friends or we have a lot of people who've gotten out of the military and that camaraderie in the military, as you guys know, is very strong. When you get out, it usually you're getting out at different times and you may lose that camaraderie. It's very important in life to have best friends that you can go and do cool shit with. It's like a therapy. It's therapeutic. Right.

[Unknown]

There's studies saying that, you know, most guys don't actually suffer from, they suffer from the detachment of the lifestyle that they just thrown into it. Don't have the brotherhood. They don't, you know, barracks and all that.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And that's something that we, I hold very close to my heart with this company is I want to connect people and I want this to be a home for people when they don't really have necessarily anywhere to go. We have a project that we're working on right now, it's called the welcome Home Initiative. And essentially what it is is over the last three months, I've talked people off of ledges a lot by myself. Hours, endless of hours. I have a family, you know, I work my ass off for Allied, so my time is limited. But what I do like to spare time for is helping others. So part of, you know, part of our leadership will come to us and be like, hey, we've got this guy. He's, you know, he's not doing well. He needs help. So we have an intake page that is essentially a group of dudes who are there at the beck and call of people who are struggling. Whether it's a mental thing or just. It could be anything. Right. But usually it's a, It's a mental issue that they're trying to work through with themselves and they don't have anybody to talk to. So we'll bring them into this intake chat, kind of figure out what's going on. We have tons of resources when it comes to therapy, finding skill sets to help veterans or just people in general kind of create a new life or feel like they're important and they're, they're being able to utilize things. Like, we get a lot of people that come to us and they're like, I feel like I'm worthless. I don't have any skills. I spent half my life in the military kicking down doors. I don't know what to do. And it's. And it's like, let's find something that, that we can kind of push you and add you into. And that is the home of Allied. So a lot of our people will come on board, we'll get them in the group, we'll kind of introduce them to the main leadership in all the different states, kind of figure out what they need. And then after that, we'll help them however we can, but we'll take them. Hey, what's the closest state to you that we have? If you have. If you're in a state that we already have, awesome. If not, what's the closest one? We put you in the group chat and the group chats are all very active. So they, we help them set up events. We at. At this point, we are solely facilitating that robbery. Hood rat, group robbery. That's much more fun with friends. But yeah, we just, it's. It's a Allied as a home for people who kind of walk that gray area.

[Brent Tucker]

What type of events?

[Tyler]

Shooting events mainly. That's kind of. Everybody has that 2A vibe. Yeah, they. That's kind of their. I don't Think we don't. We don't have anybody in our groups that's anti 2A. So shooting events are the easiest way to really connect with one another. Right. Because even if we all have slight differences, we all love shooting.

[Unknown]

So I feel like maybe that's why I thought you'd be such a good art. A lot of the things that you just said me. And I don't know if you did, but I had no idea that, like, there was so many people out there that, like, felt like miss. They. They come to our live shows every Thursday. People messages all the time. I was depressed. I've had everything. I've read everything from. I was depressed. And this show makes me really happy to know. You've read messages where. Guns in their mouth. You know, the, the stuff that. And it's not just the podcast. I mean, the. The things that we promote like this, you know, if you get one good member and it, you know, it makes them feel like they're part of a community that for us are in our. In our supporters. It's weird because they're like half law enforcement, half not. I'd say.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, that's. I. I don't. I don't think we're built to be alone as humans. We're just. We're just not, you know, and in fact, people. You isolate a human long enough, they'll. They'll go crazy. And so you already touched on it. When you leave the military now you feel alone, and you can't have that. When you need some sort of sense, some sort of purpose. And whether. And some people find that through. Through starting a business. And that forces human interaction, but it gives you. But more than anything besides human reaction, it's a purpose. Like guys and girls, people have to have a purpose, some sort of common goal, some sort of commonality somewhere, you know, where they. They feel like they belong. And, you know, and that's when I say it's a people thing. It goes. That crosses a political spectrum, you know, from the left to the right. That's just people. So I love that you're doing that. And if you don't give them something good and productive to do, they'll find something. They'll find anything.

[Tyler]

That's true.

[Brent Tucker]

Can you guys organize against. Can you guys organize against rioters? Gosh, that's a good question I talked about on the live. I'm telling you, I hope we get big enough. I hope we get big enough and we could mobilize large forces, not do anything illegal. But what kills about the Rioters is that you're this, you're the minority. And I don't mean that like as, like skin color. You're the, your voice is the minority. But they talk the loudest like it. I know the rest of us are at work, but what point are we gonna go? You know what? That's enough.

[Unknown]

They. I know, I don't know a lot about the proud boys, but I know they've been labeled like, white. I don't know. But I know that they did organize against.

[Brent Tucker]

That's the classic go to. Right? Elon's a racist, Trump's a racist. If, if they have Hispanics in the ring, if, if anything you do is against the liberal agenda. Nazi, racist, bigot, whether they know you or not. That's like, that's like the go to. That's the spear campaign.

[Unknown]

They, they got into that, that brawl that's viral, where the guy, the guy with the backwards hat, sunglasses, knocking people out, bears. The chick doesn't hit.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, that's right.

[Unknown]

And they were swinging and they were swinging padlocks and socks at these guys. And these guys just went fist and beat the shit out. Like four of them went to prison for it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. We try to, you know, a couple of our leadership kind of reach out to us and they're like, how can we get involved in what's going on? And I was like, don't. Like, at the end of the day, there's just, there's too many bad variables. Right.

[Brent Tucker]

I mean, that's the opposite of what I'm saying.

[Tyler]

It is, it is.

[Brent Tucker]

We were going to team up.

[Tyler]

Florida chapter is going to go rogue. Right.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm just kidding.

[Tyler]

No, I mean, I, I totally understand where you're coming from, but with how many people we can influence and how many people we do influence, it's. If I, if I go out and I'm in our masks and we go, you know, patrol a riot and God forbid something happens and we can help. Problem with that is we may or may not get lumped into the people that are actually rioting. And that's true too. That can send.

[Brent Tucker]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[Tyler]

No. And that can send a very bad message to anybody who may want or find anybody who finds us in the future. Let's say we go out and do this and a group goes out and one of them dies. I can't. I'm not going to live with that. Like, so we, we're like, hey, do whatever you want. But at the end of the day, I, It's Actually funny. Uh, our, our photographer's boyfriend, he's a good friend of mine, and I was like, hey, man, you guys, you want to go to the riots? And it was like, right when they're happening. And he was like, no, that's dumb. And I was like, what do you mean, dude? He was like, you know, you have such influence. He was like, the second you initiate something like that, you have to take full blame for anything that happens if your guys go out and copy you. And so, unfortunately, as much as I'd love to go out and beat the out of Antifa, it's. It's one of those things that I'm also seeing. Like, I have a couple buddies in la. One got stabbed.

[Brent Tucker]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah. And then we just did a drop with Black Flag Nation.

[Brent Tucker]

It's a peaceful protest. Why would anyone get stabbed?

[Tyler]

He's a. One of my buddies from Black Flag Nation. He's out there probably on a contract. I'm not really sure. He's an ex ranger, but a couple of his guys were actually in the ICU from getting stabbed. And so he's just like, dude, it's not worth it. It's just not a. You gotta think you can have as much ammo, biggest gun. You get surrounded by 30 to 40 dudes, you're not doing anything.

[Brent Tucker]

That's why we have to team up. That's what I'm saying. No, I, I, I say that. Well, to be honest. To be completely honest. Yeah, to be honest, I think we all do. Like, there's a part of us like, yeah, we're, we're tired of it. But the big boy answer is these things come. They go like, and, and no one will remember their names, and no one will remember their causes, because no one agrees with their causes. And so they'll have their, their 36 hours of fame, if you want to call it that, of infamy is actually what I'll call it. Yeah. And then, and then life. And then life goes on. And. But if you do something wrong in that, in that, in that, that time window, it can, it can stay with you. But if you just let it ride.

[Tyler]

You can't all be cloud ridden house.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, the Kyle Rittenhouse memes for la. Oh, the Bat Signal with Kyle Rittenhouse on it.

[Unknown]

Oh, my God, they put Nickelback behind it.

[Brent Tucker]

I will say this, even though I just said that, and that's what I. That is actually what I, what I. What I mean, and what I. What I believe. There, there will be a time that it goes too Far. And that's unfortunately kind of how the right works, whether you call bad example. Maybe, maybe not. No one agreed with transgenders in sports. Yeah, no, no, nobody did. And then we were really quiet about it. No one really said anything about it. And then it got to a point where it gets so far and gets pushed in your face so much, you know, eventually the right's like, okay, we've had enough. It's. It's. It's. It's time to say something. And I do. I do think that time. Unless things. Unless things change, I think it will probably progress to a point where something like that eventually happens. I just. I just don't think we're there right yet. Yeah. Yeah, I do.

[Tyler]

Let me ask you guys a question. Do you live in a city, like, a big city?

[Brent Tucker]

I live right outside a suburb of the city, so.

[Tyler]

But are people rioting in your neighborhood? No. No. Okay. So here's another opinion that I have. I don't know how many people are gonna like this, but you can say.

[Unknown]

You have a mask on.

[Brent Tucker]

Go 35.

[Tyler]

I think that's. People in inner cities are the people that are doing this most. They're doing it to their own home. Like, cool, let them burn the motherfucker to the ground. Like, it's. I understand, like, the whole federal building and protecting that.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Tyler]

That's a big deal. But at the end of the day, if. If officers or people are being put in such grave danger that their lives are being put on the line, I get it. Police officers need to do that. But if you're being overrun and you can't control it and your own state govern can't help you or won't help you, help you, that's a big problem.

[Unknown]

So I look at it like this, and it's what they teach you as a young cop in the academy is that if you go work the hood, where everybody wants to go work, 90% of the people in that area are good people, that they want to live in a nice community. They just. They can't. And it's that 10% that you're always combating that crime. And so I would imagine that just like they're the silent. They're the loud minority. There's still a huge chunk full of people that are sitting there, and it kind of goes back to take care of your own. If the community came out and said, law enforcement's not doing a good enough job, and these bozos are about to burn down our community, law enforcement ain't touching them. They're not going to touch you, right?

[Brent Tucker]

I mean, how. How are four guys in your sector going, you know, going to. Going to sway a whole lifestyle of. Of that 10%, it takes the 90% that if we're being honest, allow it to happen and they're going to call you and ask you to fix it. But they're the ones who are the. Or the ones who can really fix this problem.

[Unknown]

Oh, geez, man. When we go, there's a couple areas that work that are old school. They don't call. They resort to violent crime out of the last resort because of the heat that it brings on. They have a. They have more of a business mindset than the younger generation, and they police their own. I'm not saying that drugs don't happen, crime doesn't happen, but they police it so we don't get called. And it's like, man, is that. That's not the right answer on paper.

[Brent Tucker]

But it goes back to what we talked about earlier, right? It's an acceptable amount of. Of bad because you'll never get rid of it. Like there has to be, you know, and that's where. That's where it gets a little dangerous. Like, who's dictating what the except amount of bad is? But I think you kind of gave that answer, like, in a weird way, like, society is like, we kind of all. Individually, we may have different answers, but as a society, the society has a pretty standard, you know, threshold of. Of what they. What they'll accept what they want.

[Tyler]

I another piece of information for you guys. I grew up in the hood, like, hustling was a way of life, meeting people that were not like me. But at the same time, I was able to adapt. I had to adapt. There was no way. I was like, I need to get the fuck out of here, right? How am I going to do that? Well, I need to, like, you're not just accepted to leave and go do your own thing because you have no skills. You don't know people that are in a position to help you or teach you things. And the amount of opportunities I had were almost none of right. So resorting to things that weren't necessarily or they were just highly frowned upon were kind of a way of life. Growing up until I was like, all right, I have enough money. I've hustled my ass off. And that's kind of where I learned how to hustle and for myself. And if I needed something, I'm gonna go get it. And that mentality has stuck with me for the rest of My life. But having friends that are, that. I have friends that are, that go to all these protests and do these things. And I'm just like, what are you guys doing? They're like, oh, we're oppressed. And I'm like, okay, I get it. But you have the choice to leave. Like, I was in the same position and I left.

[Unknown]

We had a guest, California, and he said the same thing. Kind of like what you say he did it and he gave us the reasons why. And we were like, yeah, look at the circumstances. He wanted to. His parents were doing what they could. His little siblings relied on him. So he hustled and then get what the mark was. But eventually he was like, you know what? Join the Rangers. Not saying that you join the military.

[Brent Tucker]

There's. That. The, the options are, are limited, I'll give you that. But there's always options at the end of the day. Look, we still live in America. There are options. You may not like the options you have, but at some point you have to take the options that you do have. That will open up opportunities for, for, for other options.

[Unknown]

Being a stand up person, too. When I arrest people, first offense young people, they tell me, yeah, this is the reason why. I'm like, I get it, man. It's my job to now place you under arrest and take you to jail. I was like, but here's what you do. Wear a suit to court. No one does that. You're automatically probably going to get the charges dropped if you wear a suit. But go and explain your cake. A judge is sitting there listening. He wants to hear these stories. He wants to hear that like I'm a. He doesn't want to hear, I'm gonna do what I want.

[Brent Tucker]

He sees the same trash over and over.

[Unknown]

You go tell him I was crack rocks. Because I essentially father my siblings and have no source of income and I already work 30 hours a week. I got laid off here.

[Brent Tucker]

All right?

[Unknown]

They have that ability. They're judges. They judge you. People just. They don't know I do.

[Brent Tucker]

I get tired of hearing the same old excuses in the first year. They'll find an excuse.

[Tyler]

I don't.

[Brent Tucker]

Well, if I had money, I'd have a suit. I wouldn't be in the situation. I don't have a suit. Go to the Salvation Army. You'll buy one for five bucks. And it doesn't matter if that suit fits. You show up and tell the, Tell the judge you bought this suit from a Salvation army to show up, to show up here. You're. You're Leaps and bounds ahead. It's. It's so true. Speaking of America, they said you're still in America. I just saw someone post a video today which summed it up to me. It's so short and so good. It's like, America is so great, even the people who hate it won't leave it. Like, think of that. Like, think of a place that you hate. Every place in your life that you've hated, you've left. I don't stick around any places that I hate.

[Tyler]

That's true.

[Brent Tucker]

America is so great. Even the people who hate it stay here.

[Unknown]

You hate the desert, go to the mountains. Great place.

[Tyler]

One thing I think that. That I noticed, I'm not gonna speak for people, but my friends in general and where I grew up and meeting people like, I grew up. First of all, from the time I was born until probably like 13, I grew up in a predominantly white area. And then my parents split. My mother wasn't doing too well. I went to live with her. And we went straight to the hood. Like, do not pass go. You're going straight to the hood. And it was. It was a shock to me.

[Brent Tucker]

I was like, shock, Whoa.

[Tyler]

I became really good at football and sports. But the problem is, like, you know, like, you're always, I think a lot a big majority of why I was able to just get the fuck out of there. One, I learned respect from a very young age. And so like you said, you go to court, you wear. I've been to court a few times in my life, and every time I wear a suit and it speaks volume, Whether you're going in for a speeding ticket or you're going in for something else, you. Respect goes a long ways. And I think a lot of the younger generation that is evolving now, they don't have respect because we have something so different than when I was a child. Right. Social media has. If you watch enough videos of people hating cops, eventually those types of people are gonna feel the same way because everybody that around them feels the same, right?

[Brent Tucker]

You get inundated group think, right?

[Tyler]

And it's like also growing up, like, I remember many times where my friends are just, oh, like make you feel like because you don't want to do something. That's not just if you're living in the hood or you're living anywhere, your friends are going to peer pressure you to doing things. It's just where you grew up and what. What is considered normal for there is where I was from crime, like, it's a. Hey, let's Go rob some drug dealers. Like what? And it's like, okay, cool. Like I'm gonna get a lot of money. Like, who cares? Like, no repercussions. There's no. You can think about it a hundred times, but if all four of your other friends.

[Brent Tucker]

I was about to say that's, that's actually, that's who you rob.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

No, you guys were not gonna call that one. Yeah, you guys were, were Robin Hood.

[Tyler]

I've got some really Robin Hood. I've got some messed up stories from growing up that are just outrageous because all of us, one person would be like, oh, let's do this. Let's, let's go. Hey, I know this guy. He's got a bunch of cocaine. All right, well let's go rob him. The cops can't be called. And so that mentality, kind of the most crime we've ever done, I'm telling you right now, is robbing drug dealers. We never went robbed old ladies and we just, that was, that was what we did. We found drug dealers and we were like, dude, these guys, like they're already doing bad. Like they can't call the cops. So the opportunity is just there and why not take it?

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, and so that's something the chapters still do.

[Tyler]

I hope so.

[Unknown]

I didn't tell them.

[Tyler]

I mean, we've had, we've had some chats. Certain three letter agencies. I have to be careful about what I say.

[Unknown]

So they're going to start calling you cells other than chapter.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, gosh, no, that's what.

[Tyler]

It's a problem early on. We may or may not. I've had to go talk to a three letter agency and they're like, are you guys a domestic terrorist organization? What the. No, they're just an apparel company do like.

[Brent Tucker]

Right.

[Tyler]

You know, if they watch us anymore.

[Brent Tucker]

They do, yeah, sure, they do it.

[Tyler]

Especially some degree now that things are like.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Expanding and now we have chapters like a biker gang.

[Brent Tucker]

Which, which is crazy. I mean, and I don't mind them, to be honest with you, like looking. They should, they should look into every organization to, to, to some level. But to maintain like resources, you know, on an organization like yours, which we're assuming they do. I think it's pretty safe assumption. Yeah, the resources are finite, I think. I think once you take a look at certain organizations, it's, it's time, it's time to go look elsewhere. Like there's, there's some other people right now or right now doing far worse stuff. And if resources are finite, let's let's focus on that.

[Tyler]

Yeah. No, I agree. I think if any we. I just was like, you know what? I'm in my head. If they want to look at what we're doing, it's not hard to find out. Not doing anything crazy.

[Brent Tucker]

Like you're an open book.

[Tyler]

And now we're getting very involved with the law enforcement community. And so I think that's kind of changing things a little bit. If they were in a good way. In a good way.

[Brent Tucker]

No, but in a good way. But like, what do you like in that good way? Like, like how do you get involved.

[Tyler]

With them right now? Like, I'll go donate boxes of beanies balaclavas to different agencies in our home state.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

CTSFO the UK Love our. They're. They had us send them gray ones. That's their, their color scheme. They freaking love them. So not in the United States. But still cool for us because cool guys are wearing. Right?

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Tyler]

But in internally we're really focusing on our home state because I don't want to pass that off onto somebody else in case they say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing, like to have control of that for the, you know, to kind of get that momentum moving in a positive direction. We've actually just started talking to our local Sheriff's department, their SWAT and SRT teams. We have GBRs coming out in October to do a LEO only class for them.

[Unknown]

So that you guys are sponsoring.

[Tyler]

Yeah, nice. US goon tape and a local training company. We're all putting on a three day CQB course. It'll go over like small team tactics. Just kind of make sure they're more well rounded. They don't have the best instructors from what I've heard, but they do have the knowledge to do their job. What we want to do is give them more knowledge so that we can say, hey, we're going to bring you guys the best training we possibly can and we want you guys to be able to utilize that and be safer. When you're doing things like raids, whatever they're doing at the time, that's something that I think that if I can facilitate. It's just that one. It will not be able to look back and be like, okay, now we work with the sheriff's department. If people are confused on or like just these big pieces of who want to rob people.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They will see, hey, you guys, we have a good tie to law enforcement. Right. And so it's not just people assuming that we're the bad guys.

[Unknown]

Law enforcement Industrial complex. That's what I always say, money to be made.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, Axon.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's a good thing.

[Unknown]

You kind of sound like Axon over here.

[Tyler]

It's state on you too, which is great. I mean it has to go.

[Brent Tucker]

I mean it's hard to get a hold of though.

[Tyler]

It is, it is.

[Brent Tucker]

State money is harder to get hold of the federal money. Absolutely.

[Tyler]

Yeah, State money is hard. We have to go through all the proper channels like GBRS is having to essentially cater to their rules and guidelines, which is fine, but it's kind of like we'll send them a general synopsis of what they're going to be teaching and it's like, okay, so what about X, Y, Z? And it's. Well, we, they can't specifically write a syllabus based off of your practices rather than just figuring it out coming in and, and like for instance, one of the guys from GBRS was like, oh, let me talk to your contact. Right. Because your, their standard operating procedure may be different than another city. And so that's what their worry was, is we can't have these guys coming in and teaching them how to, you know, assault. You know, we're not, we're not in Afghanistan. Right. So these guys have strict guidelines that they need to meet. And so making sure that the people we are bringing to help train are, that fall within that category is important.

[Unknown]

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[Tyler]

You are clear to engage with weapons.

[Brent Tucker]

You are clear to engage with weapons. Okay.

[Unknown]

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[Brent Tucker]

What's when it comes to like if I go to a toa, Indiana's a good one or Florida Florida SWAT association, they'll have guys at these associations come up and Then I give them a hostage rescue course. I have found the hard way it's very difficult. It's a little bit easier to train a particular department, but sometimes you have these courses and several people are sending represent representatives to it. Some teams do limited penetration, some teams do strong wall, some teams do point of domination. Some guys have tack lights on their gun, some don't. Some have tack lights on a pressure pad. Those all seem like small things, but they're all doing slightly different things. And CQB is all about four people going in the room and doing the same dance. So when you have these, these mod, this, this, this hodgepodge of, of, of people, it's really hard to do a one day or two day course because they're kind of all doing. Although it's, there's a lot of similarities, there's enough differences to be like, well now I have to get these four people to go into a room who don't know each other, have never worked with each other and try to advance them in cqb. Like it's really hard. We've talked about that before. There's no standard for tactical officers in cqb and that seems to be the answer. Right? Well, well let's, the military generally has a standard, but I don't agree with that answer either because certain CQB standards or techniques, and I can argue this, they're only as good as. You can only do certain things that you're capable of doing. So by ntoa, for example, putting out like, hey, this is how CQB should be done for national and everyone, not everyone may be able to meet those standards. So it's best for it to be decentralized to a point and saying, hey, you know your team best, you, you get to run your team. But of course the downside of that is there's, let's just be honest with you, there's some bad CQB going on in law enforcement.

[Tyler]

Oh, I agree.

[Brent Tucker]

And I don't know the answer to that. I'm not saying they all are. In fact, when I, most of the people I train are very competent because they go out and they prove it. They do raids every other night as a SWAT team and they come back alive. So it's working. But it's, it's a very, it's a very difficult problem. It's a hard nut to crack when it comes to training law enforcement.

[Tyler]

That really is, it's a, it's a hard pond to navigate. And we're, we're realizing that it's exactly like you said. I mean, different departments or have different standards. And you're right, not everybody can meet that. Or they're just. They need to be manipulated in a certain way to meet criteria to make sure that training can be possible. And that's kind of what we're facing right now, is they're like, well, what are you going to be doing specifically? And I'm like, we're going to be doing their same course they do. You guys can take from it what you will, but in no way, shape, or form are they going to completely tailor it to exactly what you need, because it's just not going to change their syllabus for that.

[Brent Tucker]

I tell these guys all the time, although a part of me wishes they would, but this is reality. Let's be unhumble for a second. I came from the Delta Force. I'm going to show you the best way to do cqb. I just am. But they're not going to take everything I say and be like, all right, we've done it this way for 10 years. This guy came in, and we're going to undo our whole program and do everything he says. That's just not going to work. And so I really had to. And I tell them this, like, hey, just do it like this while I'm here. When I leave, hey, if you guys take 10 of what I said and change, or you find these small things like, hey, well, we like this. This is better. We like this. This is better. When I leave, they're a better team. That's. That's. That's all you can. In a weird. It's all you can hope for. Otherwise, you get frustrated. You're like, why? I. You could do a lot of things better. Like, why won't you do that? They should take it, do that better. And then some guys be like, man, I really like what you did. We like, we want to have you back. And sometimes I'm like, I'll come back. But I think. I think you guys should. I. I don't have a problem with people going out and getting lessons from a bunch of different instructors. And hopefully I explained the why behind everything. Hopefully now you know what right looks like. So if an instructor comes in and says something that isn't exactly right, well, just don't do that. But everyone has different experience and different ways of teaching and different ways of doing something. Bring in three or four different people and figure out what's best for your department.

[Tyler]

Take from it what you will. Yeah, very good point.

[Unknown]

I have a Question. Before we started, we were working out some tech issues. Wear the mask.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I've never eaten with mask. The inside of my mask right now smells exactly like a cheese pizza.

[Unknown]

I want to know if the pizza lady was like, oh.

[Tyler]

So we rolled up in a. In a white van. I was like, you know what? I'll rent a white van. We're gonna do some content while we're here. Pulled up and backed into the parking spot, and I had my mask on, like, right when I come into the parking lot. And this lady, the lady that works there, she walked by. She gave me the meanest look. She's these guys doing. They going to rob me for my pizza. And she goes down the business complex, and then she comes back, and she looks and she's just laughing, and she's. I wave at her, and she's just, like, smiling, and I'm like, way different approach than before.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm going put a spin on it. Maybe. Maybe it's. Maybe you shouldn't appreciate the blackface that you're doing. Have you ever thought about that? Maybe that's why the UK went with gray, because they're a little bit ahead of us. And, you know, I don't. I don't think the black face. I don't think the blackface movement is over. And you're treading some. Some thin ice, buddy.

[Tyler]

All right. I think I'm gonna start, like, painting my Batman.

[Unknown]

Yeah. The pizza. The pizza place. People know there's a word where we are. There's a mom and pop pizza. Good. And all of our guests, everybody goes there and gets pizza and stuff, and they've kind of, like, identified who's associated with us. They'll go, oh, you're with the podcast. They probably thought nothing of it.

[Tyler]

Oh, I'm sure at first she was a little, like, guy rolled up in a white van wearing a ski mask.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

But we've been. We've been rolling around in that white van, and, like, we pulled up to people earlier, and I just, like, turned to them really quick, and I'm just staring. People were just. They don't want to look at you. They're like. They look up. They're like, nope, nope.

[Brent Tucker]

I don't look at him. He's not there.

[Unknown]

Yeah. The crazy thing about laws is that, you know, okay, sure, call 91 1. That's. And that's fine, but what is he doing?

[Brent Tucker]

What. What if you had to look in your crystal ball? What do you think the. What would you like the next three to five years be For. For both your business and in the.

[Tyler]

Chapters as far as the business. We're working on new forms of personal security here, and I. I want to really create a good lineup of, like, we have some sleeves coming out that you can just stick on your arms, cover tattoos.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, that's.

[Tyler]

We've got. Obviously, these are new balaclavas. But we want to continue to innovate. This is our space. There's. Nobody can name a beanie company. They can name companies that make beanies. So we want to make the best beanies possible. It just so happened to turn into ski masks. And then we really want to dive into just like, protection of identity. Yeah, like, for a sec. It's very important whether you're a civilian or not. It's in today's world, like, I don't even want my son. I don't. I don't post any pictures or anything of my wife and son because I'm like, nobody needs to see them. Right. And so 20 years ago, 15 years ago, that wasn't the case. And so personal security has become more and more crucial to even a normal civilian's life in some aspects. So we want to just continue innovating and create the best personal security gear that you possibly can come up with. And as far as the community itself going to continue growing, the goal in three to five years is at least to have 40 states, and 50 is a little, little much. It's 25 is hard to manage as it is. But the leadership is starting to understand how things work. And so they're controlling their group. And all of them have different styles and different approaches, different content, and that's awesome. But at the end of the day, we have the same ideology, and we want the same thing for all of our people inside of our groups. I want to grow it. I want to get more involved with law enforcement, launching our nonprofits and becoming more involved with mental health issues within the community itself. Doesn't even have to be veterans. I just. I went to school for psychology. Psychology is a huge part of how I communicate.

[Unknown]

GI Bill to go to school, still trying to figure it out.

[Tyler]

But communication in general, I think it's very important. And taking skills that I know and that I've created over the last 15 years of my life, and being able to give that to someone else, an aspect of. Hey, you want new skills, right? Yeah. You want to learn something? I don't. I've never charged anybody. I had a dude from Harvard that's been following us. Him and his wife, they work at Fortune 500 companies. They've been following us since the beginning. They messaged us the other day. It was probably one of the coolest messages I've ever received. He just was like, dude, what you've done with Allied is something I've never seen before. Me and my wife graduated from Harvard. We work at five Fortune 500 companies in marketing. And would you ever be open to. For us to pay you? And I'm like, I don't need to be paid. Marketing. Oh, no. Robbery.

[Unknown]

We need someone gone.

[Brent Tucker]

Sounds like they have money.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

An. An odd request. Yeah, it's a. It's a half joke. But as. As I see, like the. I'm sure the other side, like the Velcro patch, like the square on your mouth. Do you think you could put like a voice changer box?

[Tyler]

Oh, God.

[Brent Tucker]

And I would like to sound like Optimus Prime. I'm just. This is just.

[Tyler]

Literally just said that we're coming out. I was like, yeah, people are going to hear my voice. And I was like, oh, well. And honestly, just being open with you guys, one of the main reasons I hide my face and it's just gotten to a point where now that what the main reason was, it doesn't exist anymore. But I was representing a. A company that I just couldn't mingle Allied with. There was no way. Right.

[Brent Tucker]

Okay.

[Tyler]

I don't work with them anymore, but I still. I'm not here to talk about myself. I'm here to spread awareness and bring people into the community. It's an idea. An idea. It's a. It's a. That's it. It's. It's an idea. It's a. A group of people who. It's a brotherhood. It's something. Where else are you going to find that? Like, there's no. There's nothing like it. There's no place veterans come out of the military and they're like, if we're so involved with military already, like, we have a lot of military personnel in our. In our following. Anything in the military spreads like wildfire. Especially when you get into SF or just even infantry spreads like wildfire. And so getting people kind of involved with Allied and then them getting out and already having that family, I feel like it'll really help people adapt and have the skill sets or at least gain the skill sets or have a network of humans that they can just turn to and be like, hey, I need this, this, and this, or, let's go do this, this, and this. Right? Who's going to these events like when we go to shot show, like this shot show, it was wild. We were hiding beanies everywhere. People were blowing our shit up. Like, people would see us and be like, oh, my God. It's. It's a weirdest thing. Yeah, I've. I don't want fame. That's not what I'm in this for. But it's kind of just became a thing where. Oh, wait, are you allied? And I'm like, I'm not allied. Like, I run the business and pay myself very little to do. So it's just a rewarding, very rewarding business.

[Unknown]

So I was. Last night, we were talking about live. The two have a lot of orders. Are 2K. Sounds like you guys are 2 ACE. I don't want to say focused, but, you know, a lot of your members are. That's the one thing that everybody kind of agrees, shall not be infringed. What? Is there any infringement ever at all?

[Tyler]

Absolutely not.

[Unknown]

Violent felonies, mental illness. And I only ask this because it. It does. There are people, and I'm not saying they're wrong, but the other people need to realize there's people out there that say, shall not be infringed. That. What about that? Do you not understand? Everybody should be able to own a gun.

[Tyler]

The two two A is the two A. Like our second Amendment.

[Unknown]

It's a great statement.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it is. Exactly. What, like true blooded Americans who know what the Second Amendment is. It's the Second Amendment. There's no you. There's no changing it. Thou shalt not infringe. That's just the way it goes. Don't infringe on my rights. Don't. Don't manipulate things to better you. We. Guns have been around for a long time. Yeah, right. Focus on mental illness. If that. If you want to take guns away from crazy people, cool, but don't even say that. But if you're. But here's the thing. If you're not addressing that, then you have no right. Right. And so I believe that the way it was written is the way it needs to remain. And that's just. It is. It's not. Don't believe that there's any circumstance that could overcome the second Amendment.

[Brent Tucker]

Just agree with that.

[Tyler]

Not the way it works.

[Brent Tucker]

You know who doesn't agree with that? China. That's. That's how I know we're right.

[Unknown]

They're very strict on gun laws.

[Brent Tucker]

No, they don't. We're. We don't want it to be infringed. We're very. You Know pro gun. That's how Americans should think. You know. You know who doesn't want Americans have guns? China.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You heard the famous quote no. Okay.

[Unknown]

I don't think so.

[Brent Tucker]

About.

[Tyler]

Yep. Gun behind every blade of grass. That's. That's what makes us.

[Unknown]

We're.

[Tyler]

I. I honestly don't think we could. We could. I mean we have. With the whole border crisis. We have been infiltrated. But if really hit the fan. Even my neighborhood, I've got an entire row of houses on my side that if hits a fan like.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh we. We say it all the time. Gun laws are stupid and they're stupid for this reason. The only people gun laws affect are law abiding citizens. The criminal statistics will stay exactly the way they are unless you can remove every gun from this country. Which you can't because there's a gun behind every blade of grass. Which. And I can easily prove it. You can go to every city with the strictest gun laws as the most gun violent crimes. So because doesn't affect criminal laws. Don't affect criminals. What they. What don't they understand about that? Pretty. It's pretty straightforward. Well the. I'll tell you what man. Love have you on the show. It was really cool to get to know you and what you do. But I got one last question for you.

[Tyler]

Let's do it.

[Brent Tucker]

Unless. Unless you do. Do you have one of the hopper. All right. Tell us a funny story.

[Tyler]

Pizza story was good. Pizza story was right. Oh man. All right. This is actually a crazy story. Kind of involves police officers right up our alley. So when we first started and even to this day, like our content is. Content is king. That's like maybe one of my favorite things to do is our photographer. We work as a team. It takes amazing photos, amazing video. I edit everything. Yes. And it gives me complete creative control for the photos. She obviously does all the. Makes them look fancy. But I take them and ad words and videos slice them together. But it's like what I love to do. Right. And so we're always looking for places to do cool content. We got a 1 million square foot warehouse to go play in for a little while. It didn't have any no trespassing signs.

[Brent Tucker]

So we didn't say we could.

[Tyler]

So every day we went there got a little bit more ballsy. A little bit more ballsy. By like the second week of going there every day we were just like shooting fully automatic rifles in there and nobody was bothering us. We were like cool. We shot some really cool stuff in there and One of our buddies who we brought there one day was like, hey, I know of a place. And I was like, all right, tell me, tell me. And he's like, it's an old trip mall that was owned by the same people that own this building. The people that own that building. It was called Phoenix Smart. And Phoenix smart was a. Essentially a Chinese company. And they were, like, going to be the Costco of the contractor world, right? So you go in there, you can order everything. And the warehouse, the million square foot warehouse was the place where everything was stored, right? So the place that he was talking about was the place you actually went to and ordered everything. So then you go to warehouse and pick it up. It was a giant project. It actually ended because during COVID they were incentivizing workers to come over. They were building this up. They lost funding, and all the people that they had come over, they just disappeared. So they were like, yeah, this is not happening anymore. Anyways, we went. We took his advice. We went to this strip mall. There was definitely no trespassing sign on this place, but the windows were all bashed out. Like, half them were boarded up, half of them weren't. We were like, whatever. So we essentially went in there.

[Unknown]

Essentially went in there, your honor.

[Tyler]

We went in there, and it was the weirdest build, by the way. This is not really a funny story. It's kind of like a. Kind of odd story. But we go in there, we're shooting cool content, throwing our drones up and, like, going down hallways, all the cool, you know, and we go to leave, and we parked our car, like, in the back, like, hiding in the bushes. And we're walk. We walk out full kit, pistols, rifles, suppressors. Like, we look like we were going to arrest anybody that was there. We look like the security. Well, the security just so happened to show up. And this guy, he. He. He. His truck is parked right in front. So we walk out, his wife is in the car, and she's just looking at us like, I don't know what to do. And his kids in the car, and we're like, what the is this? Like, who's this guy? He comes walking down the street. He's, like, hesitating, doesn't pull out his gun. We have rifles. We, like, kind of let them go. And no fingers on triggers, anything like that. And he's like, what are you guys doing here? But he's, like, very cautious. Like, this guy was like.

[Brent Tucker]

He could imagine what his face told.

[Tyler]

Me was like, what the. Am I about to get arrested? And Then. And it was very weird. Like, he looked like he was about to run. And I'm like. He's like, I'm security here. You guys aren't supposed to be here. Did you not see all the not no trespassing signs? Of course. One of my buddies is like, all right, how do we know you're a security guard? He's got a security shirt on. I'm like, dude, please stop. And so the security guard kind of puts his hand on his gun, and I'm just like, what the dude, like, bro, no.

[Brent Tucker]

Like, right.

[Tyler]

Bad idea. Like, this guy's crazy. Not me. I'm not crazy.

[Brent Tucker]

Bringing a. Bringing a pistol to a. To a multi. Yeah, to a multi.

[Tyler]

Gun fight wouldn't have been easy for him.

[Brent Tucker]

You're not that guy. You're just security. Just.

[Tyler]

And he's, like, 4 foot tall, and he's all scared.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, yeah, just ask some questions. Yeah, this is. But I'm surprised he even did that, you know, to be honest. If I've seen you guys walk out and I'm secured, I'm like, hey, well, they're leaving. I've done my job.

[Unknown]

Have you ever leaving that movie, the town where they just got done robbing a bank? And they're in the. The nun getups, and they're. They're filling up. They're film. They're getting in the car, and they all look over, and there's a cop in his squad car.

[Brent Tucker]

Goes, sometimes the job ain't worth it.

[Tyler]

We actually reshot that.

[Unknown]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah. I haven't edited it yet, but it's on. It's on the list. We have, like, footage from, like, three months still that's backed up that.

[Unknown]

Oh, good to have more content.

[Tyler]

But, yeah, so he essentially. He was like, I'm calling the cops. And I'm like, well, I'm leaving.

[Brent Tucker]

Right?

[Tyler]

He's pissed. And he's just like. I'm like, why is this guy so mad?

[Brent Tucker]

Are you a part owner in this? No.

[Tyler]

I'm like, what the hell? But he. It was just weird. Okay, let me kind of go backtrack a little bit. When we were inside this building, there's two sections. There's a giant row, like, this complex going straight down with offices. All the windows are broken out in front of. Then there's one building at the end. It's. It was secure. Like, we technically pushed the door open. Pushed it open. And we got inside of there, and it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It looked like an intake facility. And I Was like, what the fuck is this? Big locks on doors. And then we walked into this room. It was like a children's classroom. This was a shopping center. Yeah, there's kids stuff everywhere. I'm like, what the is going on?

[Brent Tucker]

Curiosity would have got me.

[Tyler]

So when we, when, when he, when we ran into him, I'm like, first thought in my head, I'm like, this guy's nervous for some reason.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, right.

[Tyler]

And then I'm like, why the. What is that? Like all these things are going through my head and he's extremely pissed off. I'm like, why is he so defensive? Why doesn't he just say off? We were just shooting content. So I leave. He's like, I'm calling the cops off, dude, I don't care. 10 o' clock at night, pounding on my door, pounding. Just boom, boom, boom. And I'm like, what is going on? Go check through the peephole. And it's one cop. I was like, right? Not going to send one cop to somebody's house they think is completely armed and dangerous, right? And so like what the fuck? And so my phone just starts blowing up. The dude, I don't answer it. The fucking boy I let go to voicemail. Officers calling over and over and over again. I'm like, dude, what is going on? Like, this is not normal, right? And so go to my wife and she's like, what is who that? I'm like, is like cops. And I'm like, no cop. Why? I'm like, I don't know. Probably because we may or may not have broken somewhere. Today was more just like the door was open, we just pushed it open. And then the other one, we just walked through a window. So there's no really breaking and entering. It was just entering.

[Brent Tucker]

Just entering, your honor.

[Tyler]

So counting on my door. And I'm like this. He leaves me a message I'm listening to. He's like, you need to call me, blah, blah. It says my name. And I'm like like, how does he know my name? Yeah, how does he know where I live?

[Unknown]

I was going to say, how did.

[Tyler]

He know my plates are from a different state? He did some research to find out who I was. So at that point I'm like, yeah, the cop. Cuz there was no way my license plate, 2 month, 3 months expired at this point. And literally it's not connected to my address at all. So we had to have done something to find he. I mean my wife's name is on there too. I mean he did some research to Find out where we live. So my. I'm not answering the door. Whatever. They were kicked out my door. Cool. But I'm not. I'm not gonna answer it.

[Brent Tucker]

They're just probing at this point.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So he called me for an hour straight. I finally was like, dude, this. I answered. I'm like, hello? And he's like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, dude, what's up, bro? And he's like, yo, did you go to this location today? And I'm like, possibly. And he's like, well, I just need to talk to you. And I'm like, the fuck, dude? Like, I was like, what do you need to talk about? He's like, well, we need to talk about some stuff, and you're not supposed to be there. And I'm like, okay, cool. I will not go back there. And he's like, yeah, no, we're going to need to chat. And I'm like, we're chatting. I'm like. I was like, I can't help you, man. Like, do you want to arrest me? And he's like, no. I'm like, well, then, I don't know what to tell you. I was like, it's 10 o' clock at night, dude. By this time, it was like 11. I'm like, I don't. I don't have anything to say to you. Like, not going to incriminate myself over the phone. He's just. He's getting mad. And I'm like, whatever. He's like, well. He's like. He was like, well, you know, it's. It's a felony to trespass and have firearms. And I was like, they're airsoft guns. He was like, all right, well, can you. Can you prove that? And I was like, sure. And he's like, well, can you come outside? And I'm like, I'm not home. Like, I'm not home, dude. And he's like, well, when are you gonna be home? And I was like, I don't know, but my wife can show you airsoft guns. And he was like, are those the guns you were. You had there? And I was like, yeah, totally. He's like, all right. So I was like, look, dude, go to my house in 15 minutes. I'll have my wife set the Airsoft guns outside and you can check them all. So he's like, okay, cool. She sets him outside, he comes. I'm watching him on camera. He does not pick up the guns. And I don't know if you guys ever picked up airsoft guns, but they're Almost. There's. It was like a 416, a mark 18, and like an M249. And I was like, it's not touching them.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

How do you know if those are real? You don't know. Right. And so he just kind of looks at them and then he leaves. Calls my phone again. Okay. He's like, yeah, so check the guns out, but we still need to talk. And I was like, dude, we're not talking. Not happening. So, dude, I just thought it was weird. And I. And I was like, I'm calling the department and just, what the fuck is going on? I call our local department and they were like. I was like, hey, an officer. He was calling me from a block number. So originally, before he called me back, I couldn't call him back. There was no way. Yeah, well, I called the department and I was like, hey, man, hey. You know, I've got. I've got an officer. I don't know how to get a hold of him. Right? And they were like. Essentially, they were like, hey, we don't have any officers in your area. And I'm like, if this officer was there to. To. To deal with someone who is so called armed and dangerous. Yeah, right.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And later I found out. Well, not later. He told me in the message, yeah, you guys had fully automatic rifles. How the fuck do you know that? You don't know that. You. The security guard told you the. Dude, were we blasting, like, mags? No. So granted, yes, somebody could. If they're smart, they can see if you have a third pin. But that's not. It wasn't. It just didn't. He was too far away. There was no way in hell. So I'm like, this cop is just trying to bait me to. I don't know what the he's trying to do.

[Brent Tucker]

The department didn't even.

[Tyler]

The department had.

[Brent Tucker]

He didn't.

[Tyler]

He didn't call in and say where he was at or what he was doing. So I was like, okay, I'm not talking to him.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So essentially from there, I started thinking and I was like, is that the appropriate time?

[Brent Tucker]

You're like, let me speak to your supervisor.

[Tyler]

I just. At that point in time, I was.

[Brent Tucker]

Like, it's thrown around way too much.

[Tyler]

At that point I was like, I don't want anything to do with this. And I'm. I'm like 90 sure. That last building we found, that was the secured one. I don't know what the they're doing in there, but I have a feeling that's what he wanted to talk to me about and I'm just.

[Unknown]

He was really a cop.

[Tyler]

Oh, he had a yo. Yeah. Like we saw his cop car out front.

[Brent Tucker]

He just was. You just don't think he was really there on official business?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think he was there on official business. But yeah, still to this day I'm like. It just, it kind of like just always stuck with me because I'm like.

[Brent Tucker]

But if you go back, the place is empty now.

[Tyler]

It is to add to the story. We went back because we were like, we. We actually parked super far outside where this place was and we went through the fields and super up to get there. But we went in there and everything that was in there was gone. No kid stuff even down to like, there was like this border on top of the wall. And I looked it up. There was never a daycare there. There was never any type of kids facility that they would have needed any of that stuff. The doors locked from the outside. That's what, that's what we can hope. But yeah, that was weird. So not funny. But just up.

[Unknown]

No, I mean the child trafficking ring get. They get creative and if you disturb the hornet's nest.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, yeah, you had all that together, you know, China, kids, big warehouses.

[Tyler]

It was, it was creepy.

[Brent Tucker]

Overly ambitious security, cops that are coming. That, that, yeah, not. Not an official business. Weird.

[Tyler]

That was, that was a real thing that like, you know, and here's the thing, like normal people aren't going to put the pieces of the puzzle together like that. They're going to just assume that guy there to tell them to fucking not go back. He did end up telling me, hey, don't go back there. Also, don't go back to the warehouse. And I'm like, how the fuck did he know I was at the warehouse? And so this guy said things to me that he would only know if he went and like went and just started fucking going down our Instagram looking at everything. Additionally, he was sitting at the end of my street. I like my son's room. You can kind of see at an angle. And he was sitting there for hours. I don't know what the fuck is this guy doing. It was just one of those situations.

[Brent Tucker]

I was going to call up the chapter.

[Tyler]

Hey guys, I know this is normal.

[Brent Tucker]

But this is more on the personal side.

[Unknown]

Don't bring your marked.

[Brent Tucker]

Where can people find your products? Where can people find your Instagram? And look, look for the warehouse and strip mall for scientific personality. I'm all over social media.

[Tyler]

You can find us on. On Instagram, you have to type in the entire thing. Allied Threads code. Oh yeah. I think every single video we post. The only reason that keeps us alive is like people share stuff.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And that's pretty much it. We work with some pretty big companies too though, so that really helps us.

[Unknown]

Your Instagram status is all orange.

[Tyler]

No, it's all green.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh really?

[Tyler]

Well, what can't be recommended? That's the only one that's orange.

[Unknown]

He taught me that. He was like, that has to be green if you want to be on any type.

[Tyler]

But I've been noticing lately that even though we have that orange check mark, and this is something we help other companies with, is we've done a lot of testing as far. We always have to adapt. Like if you go back on our page, like what we started in the beginning and all the way up until now has always changed because we have to essentially appease the algorithm.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And so whether it's changing from reels, like we barely do videos anymore because they fucking bop. So like pictures, words on them is pretty much all we're doing. And that works very well. But yeah, you can find us on Instagram. We have. When you type in Allied, you can. All the states pop up. So if, you know, if you're in any of the 20 states that we have active, feel free to add them and message them. They'll put you in a group chat. Other than that, allied threads.com. we do monthly drops. Usually it's the first Saturday of every month. Things sell out very fast and then pretty much left by day five. We only open the shop five days a month. By the fifth day for you.

[Brent Tucker]

That's awesome.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's, it's. It makes things easy.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Have a lot of time to focus on the business and I don't have to worry about the shop being open all month, but by the fifth day we just have shirts left because they're pre order.

[Brent Tucker]

Okay.

[Tyler]

But people tend to love the shirts as well. That's something that we're just now starting to push heavily. And most of our shirts are like a picture of something from the month before that went crazy. We just put it on a shirt for everybody and yeah, it's pretty good. We don't. We dabble in TikTok, but that's a hard one. Yeah, they don't like us very much.

[Brent Tucker]

I mean, I really appreciate you coming out on the show. Thanks. Thanks for the baklavas.

[Tyler]

Yeah. No, I appreciate you guys having us come out here it was a cool little vacation, even though it's hotter out here than it is in Arizona.

[Brent Tucker]

And we can collab with. Send you some, some, some cigars for some content. We're always looking for that.

[Tyler]

Absolutely.

[Brent Tucker]

But you're gonna have to, you'll have to, you have to cut a hole back. Back to that problem. Well, if you.

[Unknown]

The collab.

[Tyler]

That's the collab.

[Unknown]

The cigar.

[Tyler]

Yeah. We can actually make some stitching that you can just pop a cigar in there. Here's the problem, as I told everybody, that we can't put a mouth in. And we've created this culture where everybody in our group hates ski mask and we call them dick holes.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Tyler]

I. I was almost thinking about for April Fools. We were just going to do mouth hole only. But I don't know how many people will buy that. I mean, to be honest, people probably buy a lot of them, which is weird. But I mean we've. I sell beanies in the summer and they sell out. So that's kind of like selling. Do I still an Eskimo at this point?

[Brent Tucker]

Just to give you some business advice. Do you think you could do. You'd do better in like the Asian markets if you did like a slant whole eye hole?

[Tyler]

Good.

[Brent Tucker]

I just. Well, okay, we'll. We'll talk offline. I'm a.

[Tyler]

We got idea. Funny, funny thing is our, our masks, we used to get them from China and when we first started, I was dealing with a company in China and I was like, make the eyes bigger. And so I got the sample and the eyes were bigger this way. What the. I'm like, absolutely not. And so everybody just looked Asian at that point. It.