Is BARSTOOL Owner Really Going To Run For NYC MAYOR?? (06/30/2026)

Summary

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Episode: Is BARSTOOL Owner Really Going To Run For NYC MAYOR??
Date: June 30, 2026
Hosts: Mike & Tyler
Notable Guests: Nick Praw (Shot Timer Live / White Star LLC)

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the media storm surrounding the rumor of Dave Portnoy, president and owner of Barstool Sports, potentially running for New York City Mayor. The hosts break down Portnoy's televised conversation about city politics, analyze the broader context of outsider candidates, and explore issues of public accountability, personal growth, and community building for blue collar, veteran, and first responder audiences. Mixed throughout are authentic tales from the hosts’ lives and community updates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dave Portnoy, Barstool Sports, and the NYC Mayor Rumor

[05:11–15:14, 14:28, 44:13 Endcap]

• Portnoy on Jesse Watters’ Show:
  The hosts react live to Portnoy’s Fox News interview. Watters sets up the question – would Portnoy ever step up to counter the leftist, revolutionary direction of NYC politics?

  • Portnoy is candid about his doubts:

    "I've always thought I would never get involved in politics. I think you can do more in the private sector…" — Dave Portnoy [09:42]

  • However, Portnoy admits current conditions give him pause, referencing Plato on civic duty:

    "If you don't do your public service and run for office, you're doomed to be run by basically dummies." — Dave Portnoy [10:05]

  • Portnoy voices real frustration and feeling of obligation seeing NY politics devolve.

• Hosts' Skepticism & Analysis:

  • Mike: This feels like when Trump first began floating his presidential run.
  • Tyler: He doesn’t see Portnoy running as a “joke,” citing Portnoy’s ego and drive.

  "He likes to win and he's had a lot of success. So I think those two combined makes me think he gets in and tries to win." — Tyler [18:03]

• Barriers to Winning in NYC:

  • Incumbent advantage, borough voting patterns, deep entrenchment of the existing political machine, and how Portnoy might appeal to the city’s large Jewish population (contrasted with incumbent's Muslim background).
  • Portnoy’s baggage: hosts list past controversies ("never really hid anything") and admit political opponents would dig up every misstep.

• Public vs. Private Life:

  • Is Portnoy posturing to sell a story, stir controversy, or engineer the “next saga”? Hosts think he isn’t half-hearted but would only run with full commitment.

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2. Public Accountability, Ego, & Owning Mistakes

[20:18–34:41]

• The “Never Apologize” School (Trump/Portnoy):

  • Both men succeed partly by never backing down, never admitting fault — which the hosts admit has a certain ruthless effectiveness, for better or worse.

  "To be a successful businessman probably means you're a piece of **** as a human, and they're very successful businessmen." — Mike [20:18]

• Real Accountability:

  • Hosts sharply distinguish honest mistakes from calculated, repeated wrongdoing:

    "You can't be a piece of **** human being and then go, I'm holding myself accountable. It doesn't work that way." — Mike [26:52]

  • Apologizing after the fact, without transparency, isn’t meaningful.
  • Genuine accountability is about owning and detailing your actions and demonstrating sustained change over time.

• Religious Dimension:

  • Tyler reflects: forgiveness is possible—but only with real contrition, not PR-spin.

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3. Reflections on Community, Influence & Motivation

[35:35–43:11, 99:44–116:04]

• The “99” Community:
  The hosts highlight their grassroots audience, including veterans, first responders, and average working Americans—the “regular dudes.”

  • The “99” represents the majority who aren’t elite, wealthy, or connected. There’s significant camaraderie and pride in blue-collar backgrounds (e.g. both hosts’ fathers being truck drivers or dump truckers).

• Building Influence:

  • With a larger platform comes a responsibility to represent and help others, not just self-promote.
  • Real outreach happens off-camera: donations, helping fallen heroes, engaging skeptics in the comments.

• Handling Criticism Online:

  • The crew (and guest Nick Praw) discuss endurance amid hate comments and online infighting, particularly for those running against the grain (e.g., Nick’s viral reel on competition shooting, SF/SEAL “meat-riding” fandom).

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Notable Quotes & Section Timestamps

On Portnoy’s Political Viability

• “Sometimes I do feel like it's my duty. I can't turn away.”
  — Dave Portnoy [10:56]

• “He would get support from… the Republican Party would, a lot of them would donate.”
  — Tyler [12:28]

On Accountability, Apologies, and Character

• “If you apologize, that's a form of weakness... you don't apologize if you apologize.”
  — Trump paraphrase / Mike [21:12]

• “You, them would flourish if they just kept being a piece of **** and stopping acknowledging it.”
  — Mike [30:28]

On NYC Voter Dynamics

• “Those people are commuting… the elite rich, they're not really voting… Brooklyn, Bronx, start to see poor people who think… ‘Republicans are bad.’”
  — Tyler [15:33]
• “People just hear ‘Free, free, free...’ you’re gonna vote for him.”
  — Tyler [16:07]

On Platform and Influence

• “With greater exposure and greater reach becomes greater responsibility to do the right thing.”
  — Tyler [34:57]

On Community and Service

• “You have to realize that that set of skills applies a lot of places… you can’t learn police work and leadership in a classroom. It's impossible."
  — Tyler [45:30]

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Memorable Moments

• Portnoy’s Candidness About Politics:
  Openly admits he doesn’t want to ruin his life for politics, yet feels called to duty. [10:31]
• “Plato quote” reference:
  Hosts drawn to the notion that refusal to serve results in governance by “dummies.” [10:05]
• Funny Digressions:
  The “99” tattoo bet, gym flexing, dog rescue stories, and a self-tattoo demonstration by Nick Praw live during the episode [65:10], add levity.
• Community Support:
  Responding with empathy to a listener whose mother has cancer [40:16]. Emphasizing real support over “show.”

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Important Segment Breakdowns & Timestamps

| Time | Segment Topic / Highlight | |--------------|--------------------------| | 05:11 | Introduction to Portnoy/NYC Mayor conversation | | 06:26 | Start of Portnoy on Jesse Watters | | 10:05 | Portnoy on civic duty / Plato quote | | 14:24 | Portnoy weighs running (community impact, skepticism) | | 20:18 | Analysis: Trump, Portnoy, ego, never apologizing | | 26:52 | Real vs. fake accountability discussion | | 35:35 | Community involvement, fundraising commentary | | 45:30 | On law enforcement skills, leadership, and candidacy | | 65:10 | Nick Praw tattoos "99" on his leg live | | 99:44 | Nick on handling viral attention and community building | | 104:28 | Nick on surviving loss, mental health, and helping others | | 109:17 | Work-life balance, importance of family, maturity at 24 | | 111:23 | Life lessons about not caring what others think |

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Summary Takeaways

• Portnoy’s Candid Persona Is His Double-Edged Sword:
  His authenticity sets him apart—and may also doom political hopes in a town that loves playing politics.
• Incumbency, Identity, and Voter Patterns Are Real Barriers:
  NYC political tides are complex; outsider candidates face immense resistance unless they galvanize majorities in a fractured city.
• Public Accountability Is Rare, But Crucial:
  The show’s blue-collar ethos values people who own their choices, who are transparent about success and failure alike. “Never apologize” may be effective at scale, but real trust among the “99” comes from humility and honesty.
• “Just a Regular Dude” Ethos:
  The show is a haven for vets, cops, and working folks tired of elitism and online “stolen valor.” Their pride comes from real work, scars, and community action, not reputation alone.
• Mature Reflections on Growth and Responsibility:
  Personal anecdotes about loss, self-forgiveness, hobbies, and mental health underscore that “being a man” is about continuous growth, service, and honest connection rather than public bravado.

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends edgy, irreverent humor with moments of surprising wisdom. The Portnoy mayor story is a lens for examining media, power, and the pitfalls of American political celebrity. For listeners, the message is clear: be authentic, work hard, and never stop improving—but don’t let politics or social media define your worth. The “99” aren’t waiting for saviors; they’re showing up for each other, every day.

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End of Summary
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Transcript

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

I've been saying it. You can't do that here.

[Mike]

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[Tyler]

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[Mike]

Yeah, so I don't know if our thumbnail didn't show up this morning, really, it's probably going to destroy live views if the thumbnail wasn't popping up. It looked when I went to go put the show on my phone, it didn't show the thumbnail. So I, I loaded it per usual every day. But if the thumbnail is not there, there's no way to put it on there until we're done with the show. Did it not load?

[Tyler]

I can't tell because we're live anyways.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's all Heather suggesting 99 tats. No one gets a 99 tat until I do. I just haven't done it yet. But I'm going to. I got a specific spot. I can't be. I can't be the second or third guy to get the 99 tattoo.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna get the 99 cent tattoo because that's the dollar menu. Is it us flexing?

[Mike]

Huh? No, that's not. That's the. That's the.

[Tyler]

No. So it loaded the generic thumbnail, not the one you wanted.

[Mike]

Damn.

[Tyler]

Sorry, man. You only had one job. It's all good. We get a new co host. Yeah, that's gonna bring Lewis back. It's gone out. We're good.

[Mike]

We're good. We're here. So Nick said he'll. Nick Prawl from White Star said he'll tattoo 99 on him right now. Somebody Buys a hoodie from his website.

[Tyler]

Buy one.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're gonna have to tattoo 99 on you on your ass. All right, let's get to it, man. While we talk about it, I'm gonna load it on the screen. But Dave Portnoy, and you brought this to my attention.

[Tyler]

I was watching this in the gym last night. I was sitting there doing biceps getting ready for chest day today. So I was having a light bicep day, and I was watching Portnoy live in the gym. Talk about this.

[Mike]

You had to throw in the fact that you were in the gym.

[Tyler]

I was in the gym this morning, too, but, yeah, I was in the gym last night. I had a side mission last night. I'm going to talk about later.

[Mike]

Side mission?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I told you about it, where I was last night, but I'm gonna tell everybody.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, Okay.

[Tyler]

I got a picture and everything.

[Mike]

What's. What's. What's talk. So he was on. He was on Jesse Waters. So let's see. Share screen.

[Tyler]

Oh, you got Trump and Portland the same week. We're gonna get canned, dude. People are not gonna like us.

[Mike]

We'll talk about that. Trump Real, too. All right. You, like, pull it up and give it a play. I got it. Got to turn the volume on.

[Jesse Waters]

Country is. This is the best PR we've ever had. Now, you also have other people in New York City, Communists who say this country's terrible. It was founded on evil. It was founded on colonialism, and they want to change everything. Not just change. We're talking revolution. You got your headquarters here in New York City. You nervous?

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't know what I think. I think nervous, scared, shocked. Listen, I'll say this about Mandami. He has pretty much said what he wanted to do. Like, if you listen to what he said before he's elected, I want to get as many socialists. Communists elected, and that's nuts.

[Mike]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk over and pause it. I don't know Fox News's rules about live streaming something on their YouTube. So I think we break it up. But obviously Dave Portnoy is the president of Barstool Sports. He's been based out of New York city for probably 10 years now, so. And he's not really a right politically publicly leaning guy. I'm sure if he had. If you had to pick one, he'd be more right than left. But he did interview Trump. Everybody roasted him for interviewing Trump. Do you remember that?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

He lost a lot of support from his people because he interviewed Trump. And he said, he said even his own dad was upset with him for interviewing Trump. And, and so, but he did it anyways. He's like, how could you not interview the President? He's like, I've built this thing from the ground up from my basement and you're gonna tell me I can't interview the President of the United States. So. But he doesn't seem to be a fan of mom dummy.

[Dave Portnoy]

And that's what he's doing. It doesn't matter whether you're a Nazi. It doesn't matter whether you hate ugly colonizing women. It doesn't matter if you founded a group at Columbia with the express point of overthrowing Western society.

[Jesse Waters]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

You get elected. So I think scary is a fair word right now. Sometimes I like to live in my head like, oh, the politics won't hit the everyday street. But it's crazy what's going on right now. And I don't know how you can't be scared.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, what would you do about it? I mean, there's going to be a lot of money thrown around. This city is the financial capital of the world. He's talking about seizing property. They're talking about capping net worth. Would you ever step up and do anything about that?

[Dave Portnoy]

So I've always thought I would.

[Mike]

First of all, this conversation isn't organic. Jesse Waters is not going to say, would you ever step up and do something about that? So do you remember when for years Trump was toying with the idea of. And let's look at it comparatively, right. One of my best friend for months toyed with the idea of jokingly running for sheriff. So, and if you compare it to the President Trump, let's just say years instead of months. For years, people were doing the same thing to Trump. And I don't know if there's a giant agenda behind it or if he waited specifically or if he really was just entertaining it and he needed people to say run. But that's exactly what Trump did years before, probably two terms before he actually ran in 2016.

[Dave Portnoy]

I would never get involved in politics. I think you

[Mike]

there.

[Tyler]

No, you got. I said he, like, yeah, he played the game for quite a while, laying the groundwork. I think he got people to be like, is this guy serious? Like enough that they were like, maybe, no. And then he did it so smart. I think, like, you're getting at this, but he might be doing this same thing.

[Dave Portnoy]

You can do more in the private sector. This and what is going on has actually made me pause that thought. I was saying to you that old Plato quote, you know, if you. If you don't do your public service and run for office, you're doomed to be run by basically dummies. And right now I feel like that's what's happening now. Not everyone's getting out to vote. I think what the Democrats have done is they've let the fox into the hen house.

[Jesse Waters]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

And now he's just running rampant and kicking them all out. So it's a scary time. We need leaders to step up, depending on what day you catch on. Me in Nantucket, when I roll out of bed, I have a nice ocean view. And it's like, why do I want to ruin my life and get involved in this. This mess? Because I know what comes with it. But sometimes I do feel like it's my duty. I can't. I can't turn away. I feel like I could make a.

[Mike]

So first off, let's just. Let's just break down Dave Portnoy from what we understand him as you talk about skeletons and closets, and here's the thing, is that there's a difference between hiding your closet and having your closet wide open with skeletons in it. So a guy like Dave Portnoy, he's never really hid anything.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

He's.

[Mike]

He's a media is. They love on him because of his early days when he was more of a misogynist than he is now. You know, making rape jokes. Tom Brady's son's private parts, you know, he called the Howitzer, which even on the documentary about Dave, nobody really supported him. He was. They were like, that's just Dave. He's like. They're like, dave Portnoy literally built barstool by saying, I'm going to make a platform where we do the same humor we do in the locker rooms, which is great for business, but I don't think it's very good for politics.

[Tyler]

And you also got to remember he is at war with Roger Gill, who has a lot of control, a lot of money, a lot of control in the NFL probably. I mean, obviously the largest sports in the world is American football.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Just, you know, by. By numbers, money control. And they would, you know, get dealt with. People would dump a ton of money in. It gets interesting, though, because obviously Mum Dami is of Muslim descent and Dave is Jewish. And there's a large. Both of those people groups have large influences in New York City. So that'd be an interesting one on one. Yeah, he's got the money to do it. He would get Support from. I think, you know, the Republican Party would. A lot of them would donate.

[Mike]

I do, too. I mean, anybody that's willing to run up. Here's the thing. I just don't get. I don't get. I don't understand it. I really don't. I'm not saying, like, I don't get it. They're stupid. I really don't understand how a mayor getting anybody out of an elected position that they're already in has, is proven to be very more, very difficult than running against somebody where both of y' all have a shot. And I know that's got a word for it. What's it called where somebody's already in office so they just got to defend their office rather than run for it?

[Tyler]

Defending. Yeah, it's hard to unseat somebody that even bad, good or indifferent, if people just not aren't paying attention. Like, most average people just go to, like we talk about the people that go to work and come home. They go, oh, the sheriff. I love the sheriff's office. The cops are great. They don't pay attention to who the actual guy is. They just like the police. I don't know that this is the same, though. Like I said, obviously New York has a massive Jewish population, and if he could get that Jewish vote to come his way, that would be an interesting showdown.

[Mike]

Yeah, let's. Let's finish up this change.

[Dave Portnoy]

Maybe I do run in politics, so I don't know. It depends on the day you catch me. But let me say this. I spend a lot of my day losing my mind on what's happening right now, especially in New York. Yeah, I mean, you got the Nazi in Maine. This really, really, really worries me.

[Jesse Waters]

So you might run against Mondani.

[Dave Portnoy]

I would love to run against. If I was going to run, it would be here. Can I win here? I have no idea. I don't know the demographics, whether they get enough votes. There's a lot of people who like me in New York City. I know that I've done a lot of good in New York City when I wasn't thinking about politics, whether it's the barstool, fun, pizza places. So it wasn't for show. I've had a real job. I've done real things, unlike these clown politicians who have never had a job and never been in the real world for a day.

[Jesse Waters]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

But the people voting for these people who just won are like these young, white, like, Ivy League ish, elitish women. It's like, who are they? Like, they'll Never vote for me. They'll never believe in common sense when you're unhappy.

[Mike]

That and so that's what I wanted to get to when I was talking about the incumbency is I don't understand how someone like Mom Donnie gets in and everyone sees how bad it is. Everybody projected how bad it'd be and he'll still.

[Tyler]

They don't.

[Mike]

I mean your theory is pretty good. The people that are like, I just. We already have something in my life's okay. So why would I risk it getting worse.

[Tyler]

You gotta, you gotta remember a lot of Manhattan commutes too. Manhattan is a very New York City. Other than the boroughs like Manhattan, which is large, that's a lot of people that commute. So they're not voting. And then you get down into the.

[Mike]

They commute into Manhattan from another state.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you can't. Manhattan is like a, a closet, your closet in your house is a one bedroom in Manhattan for like five grand a month. Like it, it's crazy. I remember my son's dorm room when we went to send him to college up there. And I walked in, I was like, there's two people staying in here. Like, it's literally that bad. It was bad.

[Mike]

Like worse than the Marine Corps.

[Tyler]

Worse. It was two. Two with an adjoining bathroom for four. And the girl next door had a German shepherd service dog on top of it. So when I see that if you just, you know, when you go to New York City next time you just hit Zillow and like look at rent. So those people are commuting and then your elite rich, they're not. There's only a few of them. They're not really voting. There's there votes one on one. But you get in, you spread it out into the, into the suburbs of New York, Brooklyn, Bronx. You know, you start to see poor people who think that are been conditioned to think Republicans are bad. And I have to vote Democrat because I'm going to keep my. He promised free transit. He's going to make everything free. We're going to free, free, free, free, free. That's all they hear. And they're not really paying attention to the dangers of like eh, he didn't support that cop. I hate cops anyway. Oh, that cop. Arrest my brother. Like the dangers of everything don't really trickle down to those communities. They're just. They hear free. I mean think about it. If you're like just living, surviving and you hear free, free, free. You're gonna be like, well, this guy wants to give me everything free. I'M gonna vote for him.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And then when it doesn't come, it's. Well, it's because of these guys. No, it's not me. I want to do it, but, you know, the city will be broke and there'll be no buildings left if we do do it, because it's impossible. But I really want to do it. And people don't really dive in or not. Would have a tough time. Obviously he's done and said a lot of crazy, but that gives me hope.

[Mike]

What do you think? That. I'm not saying many people do this. In fact, probably it's very rare. But what do you think the chances are him just doing this for, like the next saga in his life, like the next four, two, three years, being like, Dave Portnoy, mayor, mayor candidate of New York City, even though he knows he won't win and he puts in the minimal effort to, to just make it look legit. Do you think that's something that could be done?

[Tyler]

Dave strikes me as somebody who doesn't like to eat crow. Man, I don't see him half assing it. I, I, I, I, I would. I don't think he gets in unless enough people tell him, like, hey, we got your back, or we, you know, we got this. I don't, I mean, I know he's a stunt guy when he got in like the picket lines and held the signs, but he believes in that stuff. And the stuff he does he in as a gambler, which he's a massive gambler who likes to win. His ego is involved as well. So I don't think he might. If he were gonna stun it, he, I don't think he would run. Like, I think he might do the, like the guessing game and the kind of like what I was doing, the April Fools and kind of joking. But if I believe with Dave's ego, and I don't mean it's a bad ego, but he likes to win and he's had a lot of success. So I think those two combined makes me think he gets in and tries to win. I mean, how many people can say they sold their company for $500 million and bought it back for a dollar?

[Mike]

Yeah, it's pretty insane. I mean, if you, if you. And it sounds crazy, but that did happen. But what happened was the, from I remember correctly, it was pen and which is a like some kind of betting or gambling thing. And, and the conflict of interest having partnered with barstool. Partnered, being like bought out was actually going to cost them more money than

[Tyler]

Penn was going with Disney, which is espn. So Penn and Disney and DSPN cut a deal where they would be like the exclusive broker of ESPN bets and deals. And they're like, you can't, you can't bring this guy with you. You can't have him. So they sold it back to him for a dollar with the, the contingent that they get 50% of any future sale. So they basically just loaned it back to him and said, it's your company again here, $1. But if you sell it again, whatever you get for it, we get 50%. So he basically made $500 million off his own company and now controls it again. And then just, I mean, obviously if he goes to sell it, I don't know, you can really put another price on barstool. I think he got his money he needed or wanted, and it's its own thing. And he realizes now that if he does sell it, then, you know, they can try to silence him, which he was never going to do.

[Mike]

And let's look at people like Dave Portnoy and Donald J. Trump. Complete, right? Lots of people don't like them, but I think they're successful because they don't quit. And what they don't do ever publicly is say I'm wrong. That could be a sociopathic trait. That could be, at bare minimum, a massive ego. But those two guys right there, very successful in business. And, and I'm sorry, I'm not talking about ethical business. I know Donald J. Trump has done a lot of unethical things with business that, I mean, just your own family, for instance, has suffered pension losses and stuff up north where he, you know, he had all those businesses and. But at the end of the day, business is business. Not saying I would conduct business like that at all, but it is. To be a successful businessman probably means you're a piece of as a human, and they're very successful businessmen. And I was thinking about this the other day when I was, you know, when I wanted to talk to that tattoo shop owner. You know, it. Do you remember when Trump said, like he was battling John McCain or talking about John McCain and he said some about, well, he's not really a hero. He got captured and John Kane being a piece of too. People were like, oh, you can't say that. Anybody else would have said, you're right. It was in a heated debate. I shouldn't have said that. I'm disgusted with myself, with their pr. And Trump was like, it is what it is, dude. You don't apologize if you Apologize. That's a form of weakness. And now you were down here with everybody else who's apologizing, apologized.

[Tyler]

Well, I'm seeing it firsthand, even on the local sheriff level. You have a sheriff that had an affair that rocked the community. Any, any. So people can respect this. He took a fireman's wife and not very tier one of him. And you know, they, they, they don't apologize. They don't, they act like, they act like it didn't happen. And you're talking Trump, billions of dollars and millions of people. People. And at that top level, I get it, just like it. What are they going to do? I live in Mar A Lago. I have, you know, have yachts and jets and why would you apolog? But you get on a local level like this and you got, you know, 150, 180,000 people in the community and it's small and you do something like that. And they're conditioned to. They're never wrong. They're never wrong. They're never anything they do. They just hide from it. They dodge it. The media on the Donald Trump level, because of the politics and the media being controlled by certain people and how that rolls. But on the local level, you've seen all the episodes and all the money I've found and all the issues I found, and nobody will cover it. They just, they just don't want to mess around with the local sheriff.

[Mike]

So I think at that level, you're right. You cannot just be never apologizing under the rug at Trump's level and maybe Dave Portnoy's level under the rug, never apologize. And there's so much more coming out about them that's fresh. People we just can't keep up with. There's not that much coming out about a sheriff. Like, the sheriff's not on Fox News every day. No sheriff's not on CNN every day.

[Tyler]

If it was Wayne Ivy. Yeah, it was Wayne Ivy or Grady Judd, that would be covered because they're on TV a lot. But when it's just some random dude, it's like, but it's, it's unfortunate because that. There we go. Spin around where it's like in New York City, million nine, whatever, million people, difficult to reach them all. So they try and try and try to get all this information out and it gets lost. But you get into A County with 180, it's really not difficult to get this accurate information out that this guy is who he is or this person is who he is. But even locally you know, I've been blocked by the. One of the larger Instagram or Facebook pages is Sebastian Daly, and he's got like 50,000 people on Facebook, which again, our county's 180. So he's got like a third. Third of the population of the county on. I started posting things negative and he blocked me. So it's like I can't even get in there and comment on his stories about and say, this is a lie or this is false. They just suppress you. And it's like part of running is I want to win, but I also know at some point the news is going to have to come to me and say, all right, you're on the ballot, you're here. You, whatever you are, you are. We have to listen now. And now it's like, now I got the platform to say all these things and people have to listen. So that's kind of like a national level. We hear everything and we hear fake things and we hear things that aren't true, but locally, they just kind of. It's almost impossible to get it out. I've run into it, dude. I mean, blatant disregard for tax dollars. Nobody cares. They're like, whatever. And, you know, they don't have to comment.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Well, first off, the one thing I want to say is the next segment we bring up with Jake from Lifecraft podcast is going to be. Is. Is the name Sebastian Gay? So we'll just. We'll move that one on for when we have Jay back on. I don't think you can be a man with the name Sebastian. But. But yeah, I mean, the, like, look at me, I'm a ass. I've apologized multiple times, but I'm not at the caliber to where you. Like, I would never be at the caliber to where Dave Portnoy and Trump. But I want to segue into a little bit before we continue the Dave Fortnite here. And also what pisses me off is the whole accountability thing for total pieces of. And holding themselves accountable. And I remember when I first saw this, we covered Max Malibu, Max fit. Whatever the hell his name is, and he immediately came out and had accountability and people gave them the pass. And me, you and John Burke were on the stream and we all were like, dude, this is. This is. There's got to be theories behind this. Like, maybe they like, hey, we gave him a pass. So when I. When I get called out for something that's not true or I'm a piece of. They'll give me a pass, too. And I think that's what it was. But I've been seeing time and time again where people lie or they do really awful things and then when they get caught, they say, I'm holding myself accountable. I shouldn't have done that. Or, or, or I made a mistake and you can't be a piece of, of a human being and then go, I'm holding myself accountable. It doesn't work that way. Holding. Making a, making a mistake is like getting a DUI as an influencer. Right? That's. I'm holding myself accountable. I had a drinking problem. I'm going to show you guys that I, I'm in the next 90 days, you're going to see a different me. That's holding yourself accountable. That's making mistake. Although we've talked about how, you know you're still choosing to drive drunk, but in the grand scheme of life that's a mistake rather than being a calculate character flaw. You're calculating decisions because you're a piece of. And then when it comes to light, I'm just, I'm, I'm holding myself accountable. Like it doesn't work that way. Just don't acknowledge it, period.

[Tyler]

I guess that that falls under like killing like 90 people and then saying, well, God, please forgive me. And, and I, I mean I know that's what's supposed to happen and that's, that's the way it works. But while you're still here, you can't. The accountability. We're not God. And, and, and, and you can't just tell us, you know, I'm great now because I'm telling you that I did these things and not, not like you said, a mistake. You're speeding and you lose control of your car and you hit a pole and some. You crash into another car and it's like, well, I was, I was speeding. Like I shouldn't have been speeding. It wasn't, I wasn't reckless. I wasn't running r lights. I could have been going a little slower. Things like that are mistake like you say DY is on the teeter of that because everybody understands after some drinks you lose your ability to make a good decision sometimes. But I can still see where maybe. Yeah, okay, let's just use a different one.

[Mike]

Let's use a different one. You stole a car, sped, crash into a pole. Now it's not accountability. It's not your guys. You know what? I shouldn't stole that car. Yeah, like, yeah, you're a piece of for stealing a car.

[Tyler]

Well, when it's when you add Calculated, like taking somebody's wife, let's say, or girlfriend. Like, that doesn't happen on accident, right? There's no, like, whoops, we're in a relationship. How did that happen? You're wearing a engagement ring, and next thing you know, you're not with the guy you're engaged to and you're with me over a systematic, calculated, you know, seizure of someone's spouse or old lady. That takes. That's a character flaw. And that also takes a long time to do. That's not like, whoops, you know, maybe like, you know, trying to ruin somebody's life behind the bat, behind the scenes, those kind of things. When you set out and talk to people and behind their back and, like, have calculated conversations to, like, screw somebody, those aren't mistakes. Those are like, character flaws that can't, in my opinion, is right up there with a lot of the things that people just can't fix. And yes, a quick apology, like, oh, man, I, you know, sorry, officer, I ran that red light. You know, my coffee spilled on my lap. Well, that's probably a good excuse. Like, damn, dude, that sucks. Like, you can't really do too much about that versus, you know, I'm consciously engaging a text message and I'm not looking at this road and I blow a red light and kill somebody. That's a little different. You made a decision to look down at your phone. That's not a mistake. But you're right. Like the guy that has stolen valor guy, that, that guy, he gets away with making millions of dollars, probably hundreds of thousands of dollars, based on a story that's not true. That takes time to come up with a story. You have to back tell it. You have to lie over and over and over and over again to cover that story. That's not a, hey, guys, I made a mistake. That's a way to exploit people to make them feel bad for you. That's the same as a scheme or a fraud or that's no different than stealing somebody's credit card and going out and just using it recklessly and then being like, oh, sorry, I made an honest mistake. That's not an honest mistake. So it's a tough line though, right? You're very religious, so there's also forgiveness. So you have to kind of, you know, that take the forgiveness or the, the asking for forgiveness also has to be.

[Mike]

Well, the way I look at it like this is that I forgive. Right? Me and my wife have these conversations all the time about people that have. Are pieces of. In our community. Businesses, whatever, you know, and we do. You can't even just say it and laugh and smirk. You do. But the thing is, the way this business is is that I can now say, but there's a lot of pieces of out there that say I'm holding myself accountable. And they're not holding themselves accountable. They just are. For some reason, they're answering to things. The type of person that you are, dude, you would not. You, them would flourish if they just kept being a piece of. And stop acknowledging it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, just do it. You're gonna get more sponsors, you're gonna get more people to watch. Yeah, I agree, and I'm surprised. But here's the other thing about accountability. When you generalize, there's guys that will generalize that apology as well. They don't tell you why they're a piece of. Right. They just say, I was not. I wasn't living up to par. I wasn't. I wasn't being a number one. Right. I wasn't being a top, top guy. Don't know why. I just wasn't. Would you forget your. To feed your dog when you went out yesterday? Did you like, did you like, forget to turn the air condition? You forget to take the chicken out of the freezer for your wife? Like, what are those mistakes? And then, you know. But when they're huge character flaws, that's the other thing about accountability is being completely transparent and saying, this is what I did. This is the humans I harmed. Maybe that starts the process of being accountable. And then you follow that up with a very long.

[Mike]

You.

[Tyler]

You clo. You widen the gap of the shitty behavior with days and weeks and months and years. And you're like, you know what? That guy did some dumb like five years ago and he talked about it and he's never done it again. That's accountability. Right. It's not just, I did this and I'm accountable. Well, what did you do? I'm just accountable. I was not a good guy. I was accountable.

[Mike]

Or just saying, like, listen, somebody was harmed by me and I'm holding accountability.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And like, everyone's like, what'd you do? That's not important. It's kind of important. Like, did you not clean up your spill and they slipped on it, or did you royally them over out of a lot of money? And, you know, those are two totally separate things. But we've got. If I, if you're, if you're gonna preach accountability and holding yourself accountable, then you need to give a little bit more than just I'm humble and I'm accountable. Like, imagine that in a. A campaign for a politician, if they ran it on tv, I'm accountable. And they just ended the commercial. It's like, for what? What are you accountable for?

[Tyler]

Yeah. And the good news is, and I do believe this along with you, even though sometimes I spend Sundays other places than church, there's a guy upstairs that you don't get to fabricate to him. You can't beat around the bush. He's gonna. He's gonna have all the answers and all the. All the. He's gonna know all the truths. And if you're not, imagine imagination rolling the dice on that one and being wrong. Imagine rolling the dice on that one. You can dodge all of us down here in, in the. In the. In the heathen land, right? You can lie to us, you can manipulate us. You can make yourself out to be a great dude and accountable, but one day there's going to be a. The dude's gonna walk out from behind the curtain and he's gonna say, hey, bro, I got the whole script. I got. I got the whole script right here, man. Yeah, I got the whole script right

[Mike]

here in your head when you were telling the world that you're being accountable,

[Tyler]

but you were hoping I didn't have it. You were hoping I wasn't here, and here I am. So that's. That's the kind of thing that, like, lives for me is like, you know, that goes into forgiveness, I guess, and. And not going off the rails back at somebody is, hey, man, like, I'm gonna go on. I'm gonna serve. I'm gonna be good. But one day, you better. You better hope those dice don't roll your way because somebody's got the book and they're gonna ask that. They're gonna have to answer a lot of questions. You can't dodge with. I'm accountable, though, sir. Oh, okay.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Mike]

We all live in a world, too. We all live in a world where you might wake up and the world's requesting some accountability that you weren't expecting.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And I think there are certain people that walk around that truly believe that will never happen.

[Tyler]

And, well, money, money and, you know, money and fame cause a lot of character issues, I can tell you that. And I look at it the opposite. Like, my whole up. My opposite side of that is with great. And I don't mean I'm great, but with. With greater exposure and greater reach becomes greater responsibility to do the right thing. Yeah, it's small, small stuff now. Small stuff. Hey, can you share this? GoFundMe. Hey, can you, you know, hey, can you send. I got a message yesterday. Can you send. We're doing a fundraiser for a canine in Jersey.

[Mike]

Can you.

[Tyler]

Yeah, send every patch I own.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Put it in.

[Tyler]

It's like little things right now, right?

[Mike]

Well, I've been, I've been in the comments lately. I've been less making content about the comments, and I've been more like, tell me more. Do you watch the show? No, I don't watch the show. I've only seen clips that people send me. Okay, so. And you're super negative about law enforcement. I was like, so you've never seen the clips where we praise heroes and donate to charities? Any of those? And he said, no. And I went and I tagged one guy on like eight videos where we're talking about fallen heroes, talking about active heroes, talking about being for the boys, talking, like, tagged him in all of them. Because I'm not gonna have someone sit there in the comments and tell me that all we do is hurt law enforcement when we actually, I get that nonsense too.

[Tyler]

And it's like, you know, I kind of look at it like, the same, it's the same thing for me because if I, you know, there's the influencers that go out and hand out money and they video everything they do, and they look at me doing that. And sometimes I get it. Like, you need, you need to show people that maybe that's what you're about. But when I first started getting attacked, when Cobbille took off, that was my commonly tried to like, make people understand that. And then I just went, you know what? I don't care. Like, I said, I, my, and I'm not dumb. I say this jokingly, my dumb ass. I, I, I put another dog rescue on, like, auto pay. Like, I'm paying, I'm paying about a buck 50amonth in, in Cozumel. This one, that one. Like, I just can't. And I'm not gonna say, oh, look at me, look at me, look at me. But, you know, like I said, with greater to me, to me, especially if we were military, you were in this world. Like the oath, you know, we took oath. We're not there anymore, but we still kind of, we operate in that category. It's like, I still bear some of the responsibility to be a good human and help people that need help. Somebody lost a loved one, somebody lost a co worker. Hey, we're doing a fundraiser. Like, those little things. I don't need to tell you every time I do it and, you know, I just go, hey, you know, I know I do it right. That's it. I think, honestly, I'm good with that guy. I'm good with that guy.

[Mike]

Political office, I think you, it's part of the game. Just like me going into the comments and talking to people as part of the game. I don't really care to do that. I don't really care to go in there.

[Tyler]

I think you're right, though. Sometimes you have to, Sometimes you have to, like, just like the bully, you get bullied, you get boy and you knock the dude out. You're like, hey, bro, I could have done that three times ago, but I waited, tried to give you an opportunity to, like, cool out, and you didn't. And every now and then you go like the old dad tells you, you know, hey, sometimes you gotta knock somebody's, you know, block off to stop the problem. Every now and then it's good to go, hey, ma', am, you know, I've seen this comment 20 times. Like, I'm going to show you you're wrong. You know, from there, you still hate me, that's fine. But I'm going to show you that you're wrong. That's kind of what I do. Sometimes it's semi or bench press max. Sometimes it's other things. But every now and then it's like, all right, dude, you got me. Like, like I said, I catch all that. Dog Job is dead. This guy is a negative. No, I, I, I support cops as much as anybody on earth, and I understand the job more than anybody on earth, but you can't be blind to things either. So.

[Mike]

All right, let's finish this up.

[Jesse Waters]

You want to make other people unhappy, and that's the key. Dave Portnoy has written a book I. No one can believe he wrote this

[Mike]

book, but he did.

[Jesse Waters]

I did. I can tell.

[Mike]

Okay, well, this is a little different.

[Tyler]

Maybe there's the curveball.

[Mike]

Okay, all right, all right, all right. Now it's making a little bit more sense. If this was some kind of publicity stunt, this would now kind of raise that bar a little bit into more of a possible.

[Jesse Waters]

He wrote it because it's exactly how he talks. For better, for worse. Cancel me if you can. You started off really with nothing. You were a newspaper salesman, and now you're huge.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

How did you get your start? You had homeless people selling your newspaper.

[Dave Portnoy]

So the first day we launched, I needed to hand the paper out a company called Labor Ready, which basically put homeless people to work. We hired Them, they had the cheapest labor we could find. They did not do a great job. There may have been a reason they couldn't hold the job. So the papers are flying. It was going everywhere. The next week I hired a modeling agency. It seemed it was much easier to get a male to take a newspaper from a pretty girl and the homeless guy. And off we went.

[Jesse Waters]

Off you went. And now you're bigger than ever. You manage a lot of characters. You know, I manage Johnny a character. You got a lot more. How do you deal with all of these big personalities?

[Dave Portnoy]

You know, we try to let our talent run wild and give them a

[Mike]

real quick got a super chat. I want him to be here when I. I just read this from Big Lido. Haven't been around a lot. Been dealing with my mom's cancer. Just came into the show. Much love. All right, so first off, thank you so much. $10, dude. But never, never apologize for not being around. In fact, I wish we knew because we should all be around for you. As corny as that sounds, that's the whole point of the 99. So. Yeah, just.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You need anything from us, man, Please.

[Mike]

Yeah, please. Even if we can give your mom a shirt. You something. I mean, anything we can do or, or join us in Discord. Join us in Patreon. Join the deli if you're that gay. But yeah, dude, thank you so much. And don't ever apologize for not being around for the show if one of your family members has cancer. So. Well, me and Heather and Michael have you in our prayers. And I'm sure the deviants in the 99 will also have you in your prayers.

[Dave Portnoy]

Big leash and let them do whatever they want and throw resources behind them. And you got to accept some people are going to leave. We've lost a lot of great talent. We've lost Jenna Margos, Alex Cooper, Pat McAfee. Those are all people came through our doors.

[Jesse Waters]

Big talent, lost a lot of stars. Yeah, we've lost. You built them.

[Dave Portnoy]

Correct. And you got to be happy for them when they go sign tens of million dollar contracts because the next up and comer, they look at that and they say, hey, maybe we can succeed up Arsenal and just keep filling the pipeline. We've had talented people come through our doors.

[Jesse Waters]

Well, if Johnny ever goes big and signs for millions of dollars, I'm going to be jealous.

[Nick Praw]

I'm going to say I'm not going

[Jesse Waters]

to let him leave. He's my assistant and he needs to stay right here forever.

[Dave Portnoy]

Fair enough. I mean, I wish we could do that, but then we'd probably be living in closer communism.

[Jesse Waters]

That's true. And we might have to do something about that.

[Mike]

All right, so there's that.

[Tyler]

I'm never gonna write a book. Yeah, my word.

[Mike]

I've been approached by B Last books. I. I think it was the Eddie Gallagher, the guy that did. I. I can't remember. I think they're called the Last Publishings or something. And they did like a lot of the guys that have come on our show have had books. And I remember thinking, well, first off, he was really. I mean, I know what he. I know what I know. He was really trying to get a hold of Brent. And I was like, listen, dude, I've sent your stuff to Brent twice. I was like, if he doesn't get back to you, he doesn't get back to you. This was after we split. And he was like, well, I mean, would you want to do a book? And I'm like, no. I was like, I haven't even. I've been doing this for three years, dude. That's it. Let me do it for 10 and get you some book worthy stuff, you know? And I don't understand what the. Would I write a book about right now?

[Tyler]

Yeah, like I have, you know, unlike you, I have some law enforcement experience. I can actually write a book about being a cop. You need the podcast.

[Mike]

It would be all about being a cop. That's it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, man. Don't you want to hear about that time? I'd save somebody, dude. Like, you know, we're here to help people, man. I got a story about helping somebody once.

[Mike]

House fires, dog fires.

[Tyler]

Saved a dog.

[Mike]

I would write a book, dude, one day when I'm not the dude. First off, there's no money in books. You should just start a podcast. Don't write a book. You're going to be tied up and you're going to get no money in it. And I think people do it more as a journal, a published journal. Then, you know, they're writing out. They're done wrong. They're writing out. What's going on? I can't speak for everybody. I'm sure some people have made money on books, but I can almost guarantee that there's no money in books. I want to watch this one thing and we'll wrap up the Dave Portnoy thing. Nope, this one. You put it up there. Thanks.

[Dave Portnoy]

I could win, but somebody's gonna take

[Nick Praw]

that guy and beat him. So I don't know, maybe I'm the

[Mike]

guy to do it.

[Nick Praw]

But I don't think so.

[Dave Portnoy]

Maybe. Depends how much more he keeps pissing me off. I, I, I, I Depends what day you ask me. I don't know that I could win, but somebody's gonna take that guy.

[Mike]

All right, so there you go. Is it a publicity stunt? Will Dave?

[Tyler]

I don't think so. I think he's in that boat I was in. You gotta, you look at yourself and you go, somebody's got to do this. And then you think to yourself, well, I'm not a politician, right? I'm not, I'm not, yeah, politicians, you know, like this local sheriff stuff. This guy's a. And it's like, I'm not capable of not being transparent. I'm not capable of hiding behind a desk. I'm not capable of having a man drive me around because I'm so hated in public that I need a bodyguard. So then it's you go, am I, can I even do this? Like, I'm not like these guys. And then they start. People start, well, you can't do this. You gotta wear this hat. You gotta wear this shirt. Then you start going, I don't know if I do. And then it's like, that's where you kind of go, how far does this go? Like, I can't imagine Dave Portnoy cleaning up all the way and going, I'm gonna be David Portnoy, mayor of New York. Like, I, I just, he would do

[Mike]

it at day Fortnoy.

[Tyler]

And that's kind of where I'm going. I understand. You have to be, you know, there's things you have to, you know, I shouldn't.

[Mike]

But you're right. What you're doing is you're the menace that runs in a hoodie and a vest over the bridge. Where I think, honestly, to be honest with you, in about a year, people are going to start driving by and honking and if. And associating this madman in 100 degree weather in a hoodie and a vest to the guy that's running for sheriff. And I really feel like that's for better or worse.

[Tyler]

And I have to flip the script too. Like, my goal here is to flip the script on classroom. I'm trying not to curse anymore. Class word, classroom. Bogus leadership. It doesn't apply. So that's where, like pulling arrest numbers, like, you make a couple hundred this many, like, you have experience built in and leadership and being on SWAT and critical incidents and wiretaps and search warrants, those things are leadership. That are cops. You say this a lot whenever we talk about branching out of cop work, how many skills cops really have in the business world and in customer service and these other jobs that they could actually go work because they're so used to dealing with, you know, there's a difference between dealing with, you know, telling a family how your, you know, your husband's dead on the couch or, sorry, like, delivering things and having to navigate investigations versus like, hey, buy this product or buy my product. Because you. That translates. Right. People don't put those two together, but they do. And it's just. You have to realize that that set of skills applies a lot of places. And you're right. You see this dude, and you're like, man, this dude can run over the bridge in 100 degrees and a vest. And it does it well. That's. It means he can run well. No, it also means he can put himself through a lot of mental struggles, which might be the budget or. Or critical decision on, you know, this guy's use of force or this. And he can actually sit down and then he face the public by being transparent, being up front right here on the microphone in front of your face. And you can't do nothing but trust a guy. Oh, but, you know, he drank 10 years ago. Okay? We all did. Oh, but he did this. Yep, we all have. But he also does these things. That's kind of where I'm going with this as far as I'm, you know, I have the experience, man. Like, you can't learn police work and leadership in a classroom. It's impossible. It's impossible. But politicians have taught you. The last sheriff of St. Lucie county, before Keith Pearson, was a chiropractor. A chiropractor. That's it. Never been a cop. He was a chiropractor. He won, became a cop. It's like in Florida. That's one of the few places here in Florida you don't have to be a cop. You can be anybody.

[Mike]

So it's like, yeah, Orlando, Orange county, almost had that happen. They almost had a convicted felon. And when I say almost, dude, it was a little too close for comfort. Yeah.

[Tyler]

So it's like, you know, they've been conditioned to believe that you have to have a master's degree, the FBI academy and these check marks. And then you look around and go, but look at what these guys do. Look at the character issues they have. Maybe it's because they haven't arrested hundreds of people and had to handle evidence and actually do the job and walk the line, testify in court, all these other Things. So that's that.

[Mike]

All right, let's talk about your last night, your escapades.

[Tyler]

So let you see the shirt, right? See the shirt. Everybody knows how I feel, and I can't help it. This is the closest I get to.

[Mike]

This is I just bring. Dogs are dogs, like, okay, that's why

[Tyler]

you're a bad person. But. But I. I don't get. Obviously I'm not a cop. I don't get to respond to calls anymore. So I'm sitting on the couch about 10ish, 9:30, 10. And I get a text from my buddy. Says, are you on a cruise? And I'm like, first off, the fact that your buddy. I said, I said no. And I said, why? And he's like, my. He's in the Keys. He says, my in laws watching the dogs, they let Daisy out. They didn't tell us. It's been 30 minutes and Daisy's not back now. He lives way out, way out in west, where all the big property, horses, all this crazy stuff. So to preface this last night's story, the last time this happened, he calls me and he says, my babysitter, who's watching the kids, let the dogs out. Daisy's not back. She decided to just leave and take the kids to school and just let the dog, Let the dog go. Like, that's not an option. It's preschool. It's not like they're having their final exams for, like college. So I go find Daisy, bring her in, put her in the kennel. The babysitter doesn't know. She gets home and calls him. She says, alex, God is great. Daisy's back inside the house in her kennel. We had this running joke that God is good. She thought, I guess God just put the dog back.

[Mike]

Anyway, Daisy, he has people that do as good.

[Tyler]

So Daisy gets loose last night again. And there I am. I'm out there till about an hour, hour and 15 minutes, yelling, screaming. And there's Daisy back in the house. Daisy had taken an adventure. I have no idea what.

[Mike]

She's just out being a crazy dog.

[Tyler]

Like, she goes out, it's huge property. There's. There's ponds, there's. There's cows, there's horses. She likes to run out the back. And even when I'm there babysitting, when I do the in and out, she takes off on me. Sometimes she always comes back. This time she was about an hour and a half and gone. And we got. So he was actually. Which I would be. He was actually on his way home. He was Driving three hours back on his way home from the Keys. He got about 40 minutes into it and I called him and said, or he, I said, she's back. But I didn't know I was gonna do. I was actually pulling back in the house of like my fifth swoop. And I'm talking. It's what, it's massive property. There's five acre tracks with, there's just stables. I was all over yelling in the car. That's it, yelling, driving, flashlight, moving, moving around. And I think the last time I made the run down the main road, I was screaming and you know, yelling. I must have pushed her back towards the house because as I turned in the driveway she was coming back out of the woods back there. And I was like, I was to that point where you go, hey man, I don't, I don't know that she's coming back. It's been almost two hours. Like you don't want to leave. And I'm like, I don't know what to do. Like I can't leave consciously.

[Mike]

But it's like, it's like when somebody drowns and you're like, when do we call off the search party? When does this.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I'm just like, you know, she's good, she's a dog. She knows how to survive. But you gotta remember here where I'm at, there's cool coyotes, there's all kinds of are out there. Alligators in the ponds. It was like terrible. But Daisy is, Daisy is home and safe. And that's my, my saddest story in the world. Go ahead. I don't really want to, but I'm gonna hear it.

[Mike]

I had a dog. I rescued the first dog I ever rescued and it like picked it up. I was actually training in the army and my friend had gotten home before me and we lived in the same house together. We were roommates. His just the way the flights work he got, he got home like a whole 24 hours. They're coming out of Louisiana, coming out of Jared Jerry, jrtc. So he got home and he's like, yo, dude, there's a dog sniffing. Anyway, long story short, we kept the dog. I kept the dog. He was a sweetheart, but he was the most animal aggressive dog I've ever seen. My right life. He was pretty much a mutt of Rhodesian ridgeback and they were bred to hunt lions and so they're massive dogs but he was a mutt, so he wasn't as big. But his, the hairs on his neck would stand up like a mame like. And so when I left the army, I took him with me. His name was Riley, and he was just, he was so hard to maintain, dude. He would get out and attack other dogs, like, viciously to kill them. It was a nightmare. And I was like, well, I, I'm, you know me, I'm like, well, I'm not getting rid of this dog. Like, I, I, I'm gonna own up to it. I, he's my dog. I'm not gonna drop him in a shelter. Well, he was also a free spirit. So he got out. He would always get out, dude. He, you know wooden, wooden fences that are like three, like two inches wide maybe. Like my backyard has them. They're like 10, 11ft tall and they're like an inch of wood. Right? You know what I'm talking about?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Mike]

He would get out and no one saw him. One time I saw him, he would jump and scale the two by fours support beams, balance all four paws on the very top and jump. So there was no containing him. And he got out once and he came back and he had stepped in a bear trap. And his leg was completely set. Like his, his skin wasn't severed, but his bone was completely severed. And I took him to the doctor. I was in college, I had no money. I had no money. The doctor's like, dude, this is, we can do the surgery. This is so bad. We don't even know if he's going to be able to keep his leg after the surgery. And you know, vets, they're like, doctors, they're more logical than, they're just so, what do you call that? Like, cops are, they're so not cynical, but they're so callous.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they're just used to a stoic. They stay like, stoic.

[Mike]

Yeah. He was like, my suggestion to you is you euthanizing him? And I'm like, dude, what? And he's like, he's like, unless you have 15 grand to like, do this whole process. He's like, obviously we're not gonna front. And he was like, I took. He's like, no. He's like, it would be inhumane for you to take him to a shelter. He's like, I don't even know if they'll take him with a broken leg. Like, they're not going to do anything. They're going to put him down. So you're just. And he was in crippling pain. Like, they had to put him on dog Vicodin just for the pain. And he was passed out all day. And I Had like a day and a half to like figure all this out because they were. When he was off the pills, he was howling in pain. They're like, dude, it was. It was just the worst thing. And there was nothing I could do about it. Dude, he would get out every time. Every time he went outside, he would get out.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's. It is. Dogs are like the most. It's the worst, dude. Like that. That's when I had to take mine in Mother's Day of 22. And I remember I got to the vet, she came in on Mother's day and she looked at me, she's like. I'm like, is there anything else I can do? And she's like, you can drive them down and probably max your credit card at the clinic. And I don't even know if that's going to work. And that's, you know, you're talking like five, six grand to walk in these places. Like the way he and I was like, okay, like, let's go. Like, that's. That is the day of like the best, best friend in the world. And the day they leave. It's pretty forever.

[Mike]

Is it not? Mame.

[Tyler]

It's Maine.

[Mike]

Maine. Oh, thanks for everybody for not correcting me and just making fun of me behind my back.

[Tyler]

I had to let it roll.

[Mike]

I couldn't.

[Tyler]

I couldn't think about. It was a deep story. I'm not gonna interrupt your heartfelt story for to tell you you're a like, I gotta let you roll. Like, you were invested.

[Mike]

18 still broken here. Dude,

[Tyler]

your maim is about to start sweating.

[Mike]

Shut up. All right, we're take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with with a special guest and go to commercial now.

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[Tyler]

We.

[Mike]

All right, so our next guest is Nick Praw. He is the host of Shot Timer Live and he's also the owner of White Star llc. And he has had the most successful reel on the Counterculture Inc. Network since. I beg to differ. Anything better than what he did yesterday? The last, to me, a reel that hits over 10k views is a successful reel. Not saying that it below it, but me and my standard, because they're high and I'm awesome. If it doesn't hit 10k. I look at that reel and I do start to analyze what. What was wrong with it. Usually it's trump. Anything trump. You got to fight the algorithm and you got to fight the people's interest and right there, those are two things that'll kill real. But anything else outside of that, I look at 10k. If it does over 10k, I usually consider that like an okay, real. And I don't like really analyze it. And I think your reels at about 30k now. So. Yeah, good.

[Nick Praw]

Can you hear me okay?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yeah,

[Nick Praw]

I'm starting to look like Tyler from the old days. Like episode 15. I gotta get on Reddit.

[Mike]

That was literally like a month ago when I looked like I was a hundred.

[Nick Praw]

And dude, I feel bloated as I'm gonna quit using creatine. While I'm cutting though that, like, I took off the beard for a new job and I had the little goatee. The wife got home and she was not a fan. She was like, take that off. It's like, okay, what's.

[Mike]

My God.

[Tyler]

Creatine, buddy. Come on.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, come on. Well, I talked to Peach and he was like, yeah. He said he's off creatine while he's on retta. I might try that and see. I mean, I can always get back on it. I mean, my creatine levels are good anyway.

[Tyler]

Some still, you can always use more.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, maybe I won't cancel my subscription for now, then tell me that.

[Tyler]

So speaking of your real, you're a shooter and. Yeah, yeah, tell me you are. Your, your military history. Tell me, tell me that.

[Nick Praw]

Just a regular dude, regular dudes.

[Tyler]

You're a Marine, right? So you're regular. You're a regular dude, but. Oh, my God.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

God.

[Nick Praw]

Oh, put it back on. Nobody needs to see that in there. There ain't no AC in here. It actually feels really good.

[Tyler]

Look at them traps, dude. Like, you're Tyler's. Traps don't show, man. Look at them. They're just one big neck.

[Mike]

My tattoo, my traps don't show because I got tattoos on them. And the lighting.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's it. So anyway, so you're a regular dude. You're. You're a military guy. You shoot competition shooting, right? You're like, spend a lot of time at the range. Okay. I just want to make sure. Because if you don't put. Because obviously you, you know, your real is about somebody that a lot of people like. Some people don't like them. Some people like them. But because he carries that distinguished tier one operator type thing, he automatically gets a pass, right? He doesn't have to put a resume out there. He could miss the backside of a barn. Right. But if he puts that, I'm an SF guy or SEAL or whatever, you know, then he automatically qualified. But I noticed, you know, so I was getting, I was getting people reaching out to me. Who is this guy? I said, hey, man, dude's a Marine. Like, he knows what he's doing. He's a, you know, shooter.

[Nick Praw]

So what if you go in the comments, if you go on the comments, there's a lot of high level shooters that were defending me. And most of the dudes that come out of the woodworks and go, you don't know, they're. I'm gonna trust the Navy SEAL over some with a face tattoo, which to a point, I understand. I. I'm the one that put this on my face. So I know.

[Mike]

Hey, I'll join you, bro. I'm probably. My goal was to go to my 20 year high school reunion with a face tattoo.

[Tyler]

That was like 10 years ago, wasn't it? Were you about your 30s?

[Nick Praw]

No.

[Mike]

You just heard from here. Nick's getting his throat blasted.

[Nick Praw]

Yep.

[Tyler]

I know another guy that got his throat blasted that allegedly did some high raid mission or something.

[Nick Praw]

Well, speaking of blasting, I've got. I've got something on my leg I can show you guys.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick Praw]

So you better buy that hoodie.

[Mike]

Did you put the 99 on your leg. You tattooed?

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, I've been tattooing for five or six years. I got the shakes a little bit because I've been drinking this.

[Mike]

Wait, did you really tattoo your legs just now? Holy. That is not real.

[Nick Praw]

It's real. It is absolutely real.

[Mike]

You just.

[Tyler]

Self tattoo. No, dude. Like, that's it.

[Nick Praw]

You just got to be hard, man. You gotta drill yourself.

[Mike]

I can't believe you tattooed yourself in a 40 minute time frame.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, I go fast, dude.

[Tyler]

I don't around a lot of. You can get a lot done in 40 minutes, man. I get a lot, dude.

[Nick Praw]

I can do a lot.

[Tyler]

I get a lot done in four minutes.

[Nick Praw]

So I was gonna say I can do a lot in four seconds.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick Praw]

Three pumps.

[Mike]

Okay. So dead serious. It's real.

[Nick Praw]

I'm absolutely serious. Yeah, I mean, I got.

[Tyler]

Dude, he's a marine, dude.

[Nick Praw]

Are you crazy right now?

[Mike]

Marines are nuts, dude. Yeah, you sound like Mike. I was gonna say. I was gonna ask you about the sanitation process, but do you know when my. What?

[Nick Praw]

Isopropyl alcohol.

[Mike]

No, no. What I'm gonna talk about is I was going to use TRT and I didn't have any wipes. And Mike goes, just.

[Tyler]

I'm like, better?

[Mike]

Are you kidding me? He's like, just stick yourself. I'm like. And JoJo's standing there going, he's a. Because she was.

[Nick Praw]

I don't do that. I don't do that.

[Tyler]

It's just like Mike's.

[Mike]

Mike's at the drive through. Like, I gotta do my priority.

[Nick Praw]

Well, I went out of town. I texted Mike Thursday night. I think I was like, I'm gonna do 500, dude. I lost it all. I got no money. But it's cool. We just got paid.

[Tyler]

So it's a more fun story, right?

[Mike]

All right, Mike, I. I want to know. Every time I'm challenging his truth telling because Nick told me this morning that he ran two miles and 13. What?

[Nick Praw]

13.

[Jesse Waters]

10.

[Mike]

You. Nick ran 13. Now, how much you weighing?

[Nick Praw]

195.

[Mike]

How tall are you?

[Nick Praw]

Five' eight.

[Mike]

There ain't no. You're what? Bro, I feel like we gotta Howard Stern you and make you step on a scale, dude.

[Nick Praw]

I mean, I'm. I'm not. I'm not big.

[Tyler]

That's 150. That's 190.

[Nick Praw]

Because I like the sleeper build.

[Mike]

Yeah, you got a rosy face. Let's. I think that's. I only see your face. I will say that's your shooting photos that you sent me. You did look Pretty, like, relatively fit.

[Nick Praw]

So, yeah, I lift every day, dude. Like, I'm jamming 200 test every week, which is not peach numbers, but I'm about to get on trend below.

[Mike]

It's like the Dive Drop podcast.

[Tyler]

Hey, I. I had a heavy.

[Mike]

My.

[Tyler]

This is my light bench day today, and it was rough, dude. I had to do quite the workout. I had to do 210 for three sets of 10, all pause reps, and then close grip three board 200 for two sets of 15. It was.

[Nick Praw]

So I'm doing 3:15 for my first set. Okay. And I do sets of eight, and then I do 335 for six. And right now I'm trying to get to 350, and I just. I don't want to hurt myself.

[Tyler]

350 for two was my record.

[Nick Praw]

That's where. That's why I'm trying to beat it.

[Tyler]

That'd be. 370 was my max, and I did 350 for two right before it.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, yeah, 315 because I couldn't.

[Tyler]

How. How old are you?

[Nick Praw]

I'm 24.

[Tyler]

Oh, dude.

[Nick Praw]

Holy.

[Mike]

Wait, you're only 24?

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So what happens when you. When you double your age? Because I'm double. I'm more than double your age.

[Nick Praw]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

The number of reps comes down. Like, I used to work out with a guy named Oreo. Great, dude. He was like 184% body fat, just yoked and like 26. So we would get to the same number. We would get up in 350 range, but then he could do like 11 sets of it, and I would be like, yeah, I got two. And then I'm going back down, so. And for them still have that stamina.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah. And. And for the muscle growth. Well, don't make no mistake. I'm still on TRT. So I'm. I was like 305, like, a year ago.

[Tyler]

Total weighed 305 pounds.

[Nick Praw]

No, no, total t. 305 and, like, 73. I was 23 years old with that.

[Mike]

So when were you in the Marines?

[Nick Praw]

20 to 24.

[Mike]

Oh, so did you miss climbing?

[Nick Praw]

I don't really talk about that shit on the Internet. Like, I don't really get down with it. I talked to.

[Mike]

No, but Afghanistan and Iraq were over, right?

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, well, Afghanistan wasn't quite over yet.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Biden hadn't left all the billions of dollars.

[Mike]

Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right. The.

[Nick Praw]

That ended in 2021.

[Mike]

Falling off the plane in 2020 yet.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, I'm not that guy. So I'm not going to talk about my. On the Internet, you have to put

[Tyler]

your resume out before ever saying anything. That's a new rule.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, yeah, he's joking.

[Mike]

No, he's joking that because people sit there, they comment like, what's this guy? What do you do one year as a cop? And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna look like such a loser if I go, oh, I did nine years. And then I did nine years. Like, I mean, I had a really

[Nick Praw]

big gun up a hill for a long time, so all I do is

[Mike]

I tell people I was a police Explorer for a year. And to sh.

[Nick Praw]

I didn't get to wear vans. I didn't get to wear vans getting out of hilos. We had to, like, walk up a mountain.

[Mike]

And so first off, anybody that does that is a liar. That's not comfortable. That's not good footwear. They want to look cool. So there's somebody. Yeah, ain't nobody.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah. But I will. We'll get back on track because we got sidetracked a little bit.

[Tyler]

Awesome. Oh, the real.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, the comments not real were amazing, dude. Like, I was in there, I. I like riffing off people inside. I text the title. I'm like. I'm like, the fucking Wendy's Twitter in there. I'm just telling people they're fucking turds and shit. After a while, like people, the right people started seeing it and now they're kind of fighting it out in there and it's still getting views, it's still growing. So like 550 likes, it's my most like video.

[Mike]

I as long this is what I tell people. You see your first off, you're a Marine, so you can handle it. But I also tell people, like, make sure you can handle the hate in the comments because they are, they're. They're soft meat riders that are coming in there. If you've got competitive shooters in there, at least saying you have a point. They not. They don't even have to agree with you. They just have to say what you're saying is factual. And you do have a point. You have an argument to bring to the table. Everyone else.

[Nick Praw]

When it's funny you say that. It's funny you say that because that was my leading argument with some of these people. They'll come in there, be like, oh, I'm going to take the opinion of the. The gravy seal over some fucking retard with a face tattoo. It's like, okay, well, what are you bringing to the table. Yes, because I'm, I'm here offering discussion and opening the door for dialogue, which is more than most people do. And I'm trying to emulate the people that I respect that also have YouTube channels, but they're not the best at marketing or putting stuff out there, like Joel Park, Ben Stoger, all the guys that I respect or I've taken classes from. They don't put out controversial shit that gets to the masses because they don't market it well enough. Well, I'm trying to do that for them.

[Mike]

They don't have to. You're coming from the bottom. No one knows who you are. No, we're at the same boat. When we talk to the media companies all the time, I'm like, yo, right now We're Ozzy in 1987 biting the heads off bats. What? You tell us when to calm it down, we will. But until then, we're looking out for ourselves and we have to get noticed. We. And what I want you to know is that out of 149 comments on this reel, original comments. So let's say, let's go with 100 original because there's probably 50 worth of replies in there. So let's add. Of a hundred original comments, how many of them do you think are negative?

[Nick Praw]

I haven't looked at probably 80. But it doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me because I've not.

[Jesse Waters]

That's okay.

[Mike]

But I'm not done yet. I know it doesn't bother you, sweetheart. Calm down, dude. It doesn't bother me. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm not.

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm fine.

[Nick Praw]

I'm fine.

[Mike]

What I'm saying is, is that out of 80 negative comments, 588 people, like the real now what these are what I call is this silent majority. 588 people liked it, 58 people shared it. So let's say you want to take off 10 of those for saying, look at this idiot. 48 people shared it. Most likely going, I've been telling you this the whole time. So that's like me not knowing who you are, who White Star is, who counterculture is. It comes all across my reel. And I've told Mike this about this and I send it to Mike. I'm like, I told you, dude. He's like, wow, dude, that's crazy. When you make a reel and anybody makes a real, you have to understand that people don't care about you. DJ Shipley, people care about. He's got fans they he could fart in a toilet and end the reel. And people will share it. He'll have 2000 shares. Look at DJ fart in the toilet. Right, But.

[Nick Praw]

And people will justify it.

[Mike]

If people don't know who you are, you got to give them something for them. So if anytime you're making a reel and you can say, will someone share this to their friend to go, dude, I told you about this. That's how the cop work works. When me and Mike put out a reel saying the job is dead in some. In some shape or form, we're talking at least 60, 000 views. All people saying, I. Sending it to their. People saying, I told you the job was dead. Sending it to their wife, sending it to their parents, sending it to people who aren cops. And they're like, I'm trying. When I tell you this job sucks, they send our reel to them to explain, this is what these guys. This is what I'm talking about. So whenever you can make a reel for people to use for their own beliefs, it's gonna. It's gonna do numbers. So I want you to know that let's say 80 comments are negative. 588 people liked it. And I will tell you this, no one that's on your reel is going to like it. It's human psychology. They're not going to like it. They don't want it. In their algorithm, if you like it, it puts shit like this and this page, and they don't want that. So they're not going to like it. So you had 588 people like it and another 58 people share it. I think that's a successful reel.

[Nick Praw]

I think so too. And when you open the door to conversations, I guess when we're really talking about most of the stuff that we do talk about is already things that, like you said, people have been saying behind closed doors or in the smoke pit for years. They're just not. They're either not in a position where they can say something about it and have a meaningful impact, or they don't want to cause a rift or start issues with them or whatever. Like, I don't really have an issue with GBRs. Like, I'm not. I don't really get.

[Mike]

I saw you wear the shirt Ultimate Move.

[Nick Praw]

Ultimate. I have one of their holsters. I use it in an open top competition with a light. So I'll throw it on. It's for like a 320, but it fits my Glock with a light on it, and it's open Top so I don't have to run a safari. Land with the button in the hood. It works. It's like, I like their holster. I like some of their stuff they put out. But they're not subject matter experts when it comes to precision shooting. So why the are they talking about it?

[Mike]

Well, let's say this. You're chill. It's Saturday night. You're chilling, you're watching tv, and you're like, oh, this old movie. And you start watching an old movie I'd seen a long time, and you're like, this movie sucks. It sucks. But I've seen it 100 times, and I don't mind watching it, but it sucks. It's a bad movie. Right? It's the same thing. Like, to me, anyways, that's the same thing is being honest and being truthful about, hey, this isn't the best thing out there. Like, I still use it. But what we're gonna have to do is. I know I. My wife, I think she's already told me to do it. In fact, I know she has, but I haven't done it. We got to get disclaimers for every show. So that way it's like, yeah, opinions of the host. I would say push it, but I'm that type of guy. I've pushed it, and then I've had little boys sue me over dumb.

[Nick Praw]

We're careful. Well, we're careful about what we say. Usually, if there's gonna be a hot take, me and Efron will get together and kind of talk about it. There's been some things where I've said, let's not say that, because I keep it professional. I'm not going to talk about anybody's spouse. I'm not going to talk about anything they do in their personal lives. Because I don't want somebody talking about my wife. Because if that happens, I'm gonna lose it.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Nick Praw]

But that's off limits for most people. That's. That's pretty justifiable.

[Mike]

No, it's reversed for Mike Darrell.

[Tyler]

She's like, she comes to save me. Yeah. He's in the bathroom scrubbing the toilets. Let me go get him and tell him how I stuck up for him.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, well, she does that for me too. She was in there a little bit.

[Tyler]

She was actually sticking out. Yeah. She was talking about yesterday.

[Mike]

Jay paid five pounds to say, that's a face tattoo. I thought it was dirt. Gotta read it. It's five pounds.

[Nick Praw]

Five pounds? What is that, like 250?

[Mike]

I think it's actually more in American currency.

[Nick Praw]

Go buy a crumpet, dude.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's like, it ends up equating to like, six in some change in American dollars.

[Tyler]

That's a good question. See the count.

[Nick Praw]

Nick is drunk. Is it? I can't read that.

[Tyler]

Nick is dry firing if you're jerking it without lotion.

[Nick Praw]

Yes, those are good reps.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Nick Praw]

Those are good.

[Mike]

I thought you actually saw a good question, Mike.

[Tyler]

No, that's a good question. Right, people? Yeah, people underestimate.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, we, we've gone off the rails a few times. I know Peach was on last night. We say some out of pocket, but we're trying to keep somewhat of a lid on it because I want it to be entertaining to draw people in. But I also want to say crazy to keep it.

[Mike]

Have you ever heard me talk about,

[Tyler]

say anything about a ceiling or a SF guy and you're, you know, it's crazy, right?

[Mike]

Talk about the. When you give your dog a pill.

[Nick Praw]

I don't think so. You've got.

[Mike]

Don't. Shut up. My wife says the same thing. If you. But I started the podcast and I wanted to talk about real. But me and Mike both agree that if you come out all serious bitching and complaining, no one wants to hear it. So you mask the real things that you want to bring up in with humor and shock value, and you feed it like a pill. Like you wrap a pill and cheese for a dog. The dog thinks they're getting cheese, but they're actually getting the pill they need to eat. So it's the same concept. You do that, what you just did, you take humor, shock value call outs, like the rage bait type stuff. And then while people are watching 20 minutes in, you're talking about actual things that they wouldn't have stuck around for had they not seen the other stuff.

[Nick Praw]

Is that kind of like what Jake does with the peanut butter and his dog? Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He's the one that made me do this, by the way.

[Mike]

Something about peanut butter and his dog. I, I. Is that what he was talking about?

[Nick Praw]

He's from Texas, man. You can't really understand the guy. And he's got a big old chew in his mouth. He don't know no dog and peanut butter.

[Mike]

Yeah, but, dude, I mean, like I said, everybody brings. I can go right now, everybody on the network, and I can talk about their strengths without even trying to. Your strength is understanding the importance of going against the grain and going against the mainstream. It's the only way you're going to stick out. If you are just another gun podcast. Bye. You're lost in a white sea of other YouTube. You just. If everything's going like this and you just divert and go this way, well, now you're pissing off everybody else and everything around you starting to go like this now you have the attention and the way.

[Nick Praw]

It was kind of explained to me by a few friends that I hold dear even before we started this. I've always said the kind of stuff that I say here because I keep it 100. I don't. I don't want to switch up or do anything weird because you got to stay true to yourselves. And people have called me, Timu, Matt, Franca for that for years. Because I'll just say crazy. I'm like, you know what? If I can make a living off of it, it makes somebody laugh at least.

[Tyler]

Can you. Can you do that same nice thing about G Money? Can you say anything about him?

[Mike]

G Money is. I've been seeing reels about. It's. It's a. It's a guy. You know how people do, like, the Tick tock filter, so they can be like eight different characters, but it's one guy. And he had. There's tons of pages like that, and I think it's called Mr. Napkins or something, but he does like 10 different characters, and one of them is that psycho friend that says off the wall. And then he'll randomly, like, blow your mind with facts. That's G Money. That guy is politically probably one of the smartest people I've ever met. And he's got a very professional dashboard about being on C Span, Fox News, and he's very, very well rounded in politics.

[Tyler]

And then he drops something crazy like, look at my dog, like my ball.

[Nick Praw]

He's a super nice guy, too. He's a super nice guy.

[Mike]

Jay is a marketing genius. That guy knows marketing in and out. Because he had to survive on what happened.

[Nick Praw]

What I meant dying over here.

[Mike]

Oh. He had to survive and make a business grow. And he had to learn marketing. Like drinking water out of a hose, dude. So Jake has got that. I believe Jake can be an Instagram influencer. He could be cutting reels because he's got that dry. He knows. He knows when the joke's gonna crack about 15 seconds before you do. So with his tone and his facial expressions, he sets it up perfectly. So everybody brings something to counterculture, and that's why they're hosting shows.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah. And I mean, that's kind of the. That's the goal, I mean, I'm just. I've been following since back when Tyler looked like a baby at the beginning. So I've been here a little while and really seen. Yes, because I, I can't remember what, what episode it was, but I remember seeing or hearing someone watching it and going, what show is that? Like, years ago. And I stepped away from it for a little while during kind of the whole Thursday night lives. Because, I mean, you and me were both in the military. You kind of grow up around those kind of people. I never really saw them, but it was never something that was interesting to me. And I didn't know that you were in the infantry until like after that shit.

[Mike]

Did you think I was a soft fanboy?

[Nick Praw]

No, I thought you were only a cop. And then I saw some of the older ones with you and your brother, like with the corporal and the specialist ranks and stuff like that. Like, then I recognized, I'm like, okay, these are just regular dudes. They're probably approachable. And then you can kind of work your way in and go, okay, I really like the idea of this as a community. How can we promote this? Because there's not really, in my area up here, most of the vets that are around me are toxic as fuck. There's a few that are kind of like peach, where they're a little standoffish, but once you talk to him, like, they'll help you out. Like, he's helping me with my own fitness journey and stuff like that. Like. But for the most part, a lot of the 20 year vets that are around here are fucking assholes. So how can we create a community for the younger dudes who maybe only do four years, or the cops that do 10 years and get out because they hate the fucking job because the job's dead. Clip that. Like, how can you create that without break bringing in all the fucking retards that say, oh, if you didn't do 20 years, you're nothing. Let's say no, man, because I know dudes that did five years in the infantry that I respect 70,000 times more than dudes that did 20 years as a first sergeant and then they started out in supply. Like, nobody cares about what you did for 20 years. That was the main goal for me. 23 years for nothing, right?

[Tyler]

No, but it's. It's that thing that my wife says, it's like the guys that are 20 year one year cops, 20 times. Like, they acted like a one year cop every year for 20 years. They didn't excel they didn't expand, they didn't grow. They just complained and did rookie or acted like a new guy for 20 years and then say, well, I did 20 years. And it's like I remember getting arguments. Not right after Cobbill, not too long in. I'm like, there's three year guys that I'd go to war with right now that are way more squared away than a 20 year guy. Maybe. Are they ready to be supervisors at three years? No. But are they on their way to being a really good one? Yeah. So that whole leading with how many years that you sat in a car, in a parking lot or in a uniform, like he just said, doesn't impress me. I don't, I don't. It's what you did in those years. So there could be a five year guy that gets in and out and does amazing and says, you know what, I did all this crazy in five years as a cop. And I decided it was time to move on. And I'm like, that's very admirable. That's very admirable. You gave five years really hard work. And then the military gets a. You know, because it's a military, it kind of, that, that can be normal. Where I did five years or six years and I got out and everybody's like, yeah, that's cool. But if you're a cop, it's like, oh, you're five years.

[Mike]

Oh God.

[Tyler]

And like you said, there's guys with 25 years that I look at and go, how the did you manage to do this entire career? Never do anything important, never do anything. Just. Just existed for 25 years within a building. And it's like, you can go in the community and nobody knew. They don't even know you're a cop. Like, you could walk through the hood on your day off and not one person is going to recognize you and go, oh, that's that, that's that cop. They're gonna be like, who's this fucking Domino's Pizza? Like, what is this guy?

[Nick Praw]

Well, that's been my goal for the past years. After getting out, I see guys that get out and they don't have a purpose and they struggle. And I've lost a lot more friends to suicide than I have lost to combat. So my focus moving forward. Excuse me. I want to push the narrative of like, when you get out, don't make your whole personality about what you did for four years. Like, find something that you can do now and for the rest of your life and keep improving yourself and don't Ride on the coattails of your service. Like dudes that never moved away from their home, that played on the high school football team. Like, that shit drives me crazy. That's why I don't really wear it on my sleeve that much because, yeah, it's a thing I did, and I'm proud of it. That's for me. That's not for anybody else. Yeah, I keep it close to my chest, and that's. That's my goal.

[Tyler]

And, Yep.

[Nick Praw]

Be it my own company and my own ventures, my own family, those are my goals, because I want to promote that for the rest of the dudes that get out and go, I'm gonna put a gun in my mouth or this and that, and they don't know what direction to turn in.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

One of my favorite clips is the Johnny Manziel clip where he says, I'm just a guy. A guy's, you know, that kid interviews him, he says, who are you? And he's like, I'm just. I used to play football. I'm just a guy now. Just a guy. Like, he obviously one of the most successful college quarterbacks in history of college football. Didn't really pan out in the NFL. And instead of living on that past, he just, I'm just a guy. I'm just a dude, man. I'm here, I'm doing this interview. I'm like, I'm a guy. And I always. I respect that because that is a way to move forward from the past and not live in the past. And kind of what some guys do is, is live in that past of. Just because you did something like serve doesn't mean you're a good person. Right. Doesn't mean you're a good character person. Doesn't mean that you're a successful person. Just because you check the box. Maybe you're not positive. Yeah, you could be. Not in that positive, but, like, I love that quote by him. I'm just a guy, man. I'm just a dude.

[Nick Praw]

No, I agree.

[Mike]

Yep. And I commend you for. I, I. It's not. It's hard because the guy, the big wit, the meme page that had the mask and the stuff on, he's kind of going through the same. And the comments that you were going through, a bunch of SF cuck boys in there. And I had to tell him the same thing. I'm like, listen, dude, look at the ratio to likes, comments and shares. Because as that one got, I think a couple hundred shares, and it's all people going, dude, we agree with You. But. And, and here's the thing, too, is that the SF and SEAL community, the soft community, they're never going to go, you average guys, because they know that they're. And I'm not taking this from them. Everybody's got their demographic. Like female podcasts have female demographic.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Mike]

So these guys that get out of the military and did all these special operations things and then transfer it over to the media and kind of, they have to have the type of dudes that cannot relate to them at all. And I've already profiled these people. They're people that have never served a day in their life. I say this all the time. I'm going to preach it.

[Tyler]

Oh, smartest he sounded ever.

[Nick Praw]

He's frozen. That's not great.

[Tyler]

Look how smart he looks. He's got his neck. He's got his neck sucked. He's got his neck too. So. Yeah, no, it looks kind of. It kind of looks good because it's like.

[Nick Praw]

Well, and that's what I say, too. I mean, that guy, he hides his face. I have nothing to hide. I don't need to hide my face. I have this.

[Tyler]

Oh, don't get us kicked off.

[Mike]

I won't.

[Nick Praw]

I don't know if you can see it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, there it is, the Tower of Power.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, I mean, like, I, I don't need to hide. I'm just a regular dude.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I like the regular dude comparison.

[Nick Praw]

I can't, I can't get down with the whole, like, meat riding stuff, though, because it's like, these dudes don't care about you. You go into the comments, you're defending them, they don't give a about you. Like, when are you going to start being your own man? And that's like my, my dad, My dad was never military. Not a cop. He was a truck driver for 30 fucking years. And right now, watching him get older, starting to break down, he's always kept the same attitude. Don't have any regrets, and be a fucking man. Be your own man. Be true to your word. And like, the fact that he gave me that and he wasn't military or law enforcement or anything like that, just a 99. Just a regular dude. Just promotes the whole 99 idea, correct?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, my dad was not military. Not a cop either. He drove dump trucks. It was the same thing. It was. But, you know, he had like, it.

[Mike]

It.

[Tyler]

I don't know. It, it's, it's, it's a. I never thought of being a copper. Military, even as a kid. And it kind of happened. And then you take that job serious while you're in it. And I think that's the difference in a lot of these guys. I don't. Oh, man.

[Nick Praw]

Well, it's like, don't get me wrong, I had bad days in the Marines, too. Maybe it wasn't the

[Tyler]

everybody's dying, just the glue. Oh, you're back. You're back.

[Nick Praw]

Sorry, I got a phone call.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Nick Praw]

There was days where I wasn't the best dude ever. You know, like, we all have bad days, but the point is to just be true to yourself and be a little bit better every day. And that's kind of what I'm trying to push out with my own page and my own stuff.

[Tyler]

And I think, like I said, I, I, I think it's admirable. But you saw, you got your first taste of. You're just a regular. Can you hear me? Go back out. Come out. Go back in. The glue is holding it together. Ladies and gentlemen, straight from if I'm Still Live, we live. Yeah, I'm still here. Admin. Here comes Tyler. Later. Stad went to grab milk. My dad did, too, but he always came back, even if it was a couple days later.

[Mike]

There we go.

[Tyler]

Oh, you're in here twice. I got to throw you out. That's how cool you are.

[Nick Praw]

There's two of me now.

[Tyler]

But you got your first taste yesterday.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, that's.

[Tyler]

You got your first taste.

[Nick Praw]

While we're having a hell of a technique, I'm glad I came on today, otherwise, you'd be cooked by yourself.

[Tyler]

Can you hear. Can you hear me? You can't hear me? No. All right, try it one more time. Ladies and gentlemen, it is the Glue. Live Monday through Friday, 1 to 3pm Here comes the Rhymes with glue.

[Mike]

Jew. Can you hear me?

[Tyler]

Yeah. What happened?

[Mike]

We lost power, dude. There's a thunderstorm. And it went. It went out and on within a second, but it tripped everything, so we almost had it.

[Tyler]

I am the storm. Look at this. This is the storm right here.

[Nick Praw]

Look at that.

[Tyler]

Do that, man. You know what they say. 205 pounds of chiseled steel and sex appeal. Live from Veer Beach, Florida. That would be my skit. Hold on. Can you hear me?

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, I can hear you.

[Mike]

All right. That would be my Nick, too.

[Nick Praw]

Every.

[Tyler]

All of you guys, man. That same storm must be hitting all over the United States. Everywhere but here.

[Nick Praw]

It's not even raining outside.

[Tyler]

You're not taking your Crave creatine because it didn't affect me. And I've been Taking it. So you guys got gotta tighten up.

[Mike]

Mike's the type of guy that gives himself nicknames. I'm like the store.

[Tyler]

No. If you had listened what I was gonna finish.

[Mike]

If.

[Tyler]

If I was a.

[Mike]

He's hoping it sticks. Please, everybody call me Mike.

[Tyler]

I would have been. No, I don't want to be called anything. I was just saying that would be my wrestling. That'd be my Austin316 moment.

[Nick Praw]

You missed it. I showed off my little plate carrier.

[Tyler]

Yeah, the T doesn't have all the

[Nick Praw]

crazy on it, huh?

[Tyler]

So people popping in.

[Mike]

We back in? No. Okay. Hey, so what I was saying about echo. Yeah. Muted. So what I was saying about the SF dudes is that. Is there still an echo?

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

Just back out of the thing completely. Don't worry about it. We got to set the cameras up. Our producers try really hard. Even though you say, don't do it, they always like, yeah, I'm gonna fix it. I know you can. Some. Come sit over here. So the SF stuff, I mean, I've said it a million times, is that they've never done anything. They've never served. So when they. When they.

[Nick Praw]

Oh, looks like

[Tyler]

ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all, when they

[Mike]

think about, like, well, what if we

[Nick Praw]

got cop Bill and Nick in the house?

[Mike]

What happened?

[Tyler]

You're. You're using and unfreezing.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Nick Praw]

You sound like my ex wife right now.

[Mike]

All right, I'm gonna back out. I don't know what's going on with the Internet. So, Mike, you and Nick take the show away. I'll be watching.

[Nick Praw]

Sure.

[Tyler]

All right, now I gotta remove this thing because I'm gonna show you guys. I'm gonna show you guys what I've been. How the glue works. I'm gonna just. I'm gonna just show you guys how the glue works. So this is what I've been staring at because they put the little QR code up there. So this is what I fight through as just the guy. Ready? Text message. Move it over there. This is what Mike looks at, the whole show. Look at my face when I load this picture. I have that. The view count and the timer right across my eyes. I've been doing that the whole show. Just so you guys know. Just so you guys know that I am here for you no matter what, no matter what's going on. I don't even know where that little thing is. To get rid of it, you gotta fix the widgets. Here it is. There we go.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I got you. We're working all Right. So you got your first taste of fame. You're there, you're in the, you're in that. When I say fame, I'm not saying you're looking for to be famous, but you went in a real, you got viral. You understand now what that, what that brings, what is the, what's the pace going forward? You just keep full blown Marine Corps ura. Straight ahead. Right?

[Nick Praw]

Just doing mine.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Say what's on your mind and just

[Nick Praw]

do that same stuff. But I don't delete stuff either. Like, I'm not one of those people that goes in, like, there's pictures of me and my Facebook. Peach found one that's kind of embarrassing. When I was a boot, it's like, sure, dude. There's stuff out there. Everybody can find it. Yeah, y' all know where to find me.

[Tyler]

Well, the interesting thing, the interesting thing is you don't understand, like, the views. Like, people think, oh, you got this many views, but people are talking about it even that aren't commenting. And I look at the con, I look at the combination, the non commenters, the people watching. Like, there's also people that just say, I'm not going to get involved in the conversation. But I agree, you're usually going to get more comments from the people who disagree. It's kind of like me. I am not the type and I'm, I'm glad I have this trait. I will never walk up to a cop in my life ever. Didn't, and I never will, and go, hey, brother, thank you for your service, or, hey, brother, I was a cop too. I just won't do that. I won't do that. Not gonna happen.

[Nick Praw]

That's the job.

[Tyler]

If, if I, if I get into a conversation with somebody, it may come up, but I've never, ever. And I know what that feels like. Most of the time, you're doing your job, you're working, you just want to do your job. And then you get the whole, you know, I've watched my wife deal with it when, you know, help, baby, arrest me. And, oh, yeah, like, I will never do that to anybody. I'll never walk up and be like, I was on the job. And that's a northern thing sometimes down here. But it's kind of that silent professional thing. Thing. And I'm not calling myself a silent professional. I guess I'm just calling myself silent. But like, kind of like you, you're. You don't realize that there's a lot of people that respect what you say and are talking about it. They're just not going to say it. They're not going to comment because they don't want to deal with the people that are nasty to you and then they're going to turn on them. So it's an Internet war. It's a. It's a social media war where they just talk a lot of smack in the. In the comments. But I think what.

[Nick Praw]

That's the thing, man. Like, that's the thing. And this was explained to me best by a dude that knows little to nothing about electron or electronics. I talked to my dad about it because I tell my dad about everything because he's bored. He's unemployed now. He got in a truck accident a couple years ago and now he's still trying to recover.

[Tyler]

How old your dad? How old you did?

[Mike]

7.

[Tyler]

Enjoy. Enjoy. My dad left at 54 and that's my fear. Enjoy.

[Nick Praw]

I never got to talk to my grandpa. And my dad is the smartest dude that I've ever known. And I tell him everything that I go through and all the stuff that I do. I'm pretty excited about it. And he is too. And one thing he told me, he's like, if you ever get sick of it, the nice thing about with this and everything that I'm doing is the best thing you can do. Just take the phone, throw it in the fucking door and leave. Go out for the day, go in the woods. And I do a lot of hunting. I do a lot of archery and fishing. That's my piece. So I can step away from it whenever I want. Obviously, I've got the Monday obligations and I won't cancel on Tyler like some other people do. But that's the thing people need to understand is that that mindset of this isn't your life and sometimes you need to take away the electricity for a little while. Take off the phone, please, go touch grass.

[Tyler]

It took me a long time. And I hate giving, Drinking vinegar, complimenting my wife. But I like to do it. She got me that. I had that. I was that guy that if you text me, I had to respond and 10 seconds I had to answer the phone. I had to do all those things. And then you get into like social media and the compile page goes crazy. And it, it goes, you have to, have to, have to. I have learned. And it's just in the last probably year, as I've gone on to Anti Hero and realized there's so much going on that you can't get so lost. You have to be there for the boys. I get it. Anybody Needs me, I'll answer. You need me to talk, you're going through it, whatever. But then there's just a generalized, like you just said, I. I will. I used to think I couldn't go. Had to, Couldn't let a message sit, even a dm. Now I kind of let it go. I'll go a whole weekend. I'll open my phone, open Instagram, respond to a few people, like, rattle it. You're. You're starting off very well. Because I will tell you, if you start off like I did, you start to. If it starts to become jobby and it starts to become, like, an obligation, and then you lose the authenticity of what you're actually trying to do. So your ability to walk away, go hunt, go whatever, put your episode out, disengage, that's gonna. That's going to lead you down a path of less resistance than I had, which is, I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta do it, I gotta respond, I gotta be the guy. And that's good. That's good. You're starting off with that mindset that you can just put it away, make your episode, and, you know, keep your family and yourself sane. Because I. I tend to like to be insane sometimes and try to keep up and do too much. So that's a good start.

[Nick Praw]

Well, I think it's an important sentiment to put out because people in the age of technology get stuck in their phone so much. You live on your phone. It drives your relationships away. If you're with a woman, it drives her nuts. If you're with your family, you're not really with your family. You're present, but you're not there. So it's important to take it out, turn it off. It'll be there when you get back. And if anything ever goes nuclear, the people that have my phone number have it. People that don't need it, don't need it. And if they text you, if they care enough, they'll be okay. If you don't respond for a day,

[Tyler]

it sucks that I'm gonna have to die this late. It's like learning life this late.

[Mike]

You're.

[Tyler]

You're way ahead. You're good. 24 is a great age to learn that. I have gotten older. And the aha. Moments I've had with myself about things like that, I go, damn it, man, I'm 50. Man, I wish I would have figured that out at 30. I wish I would have figured that out at 35, because then I would have had a lot more time living a better in Better mental condition where I don't have to worry about all those things.

[Nick Praw]

So when I'll tell you're mature for

[Tyler]

your age, man, you're really mature for your age. And that's a good thing.

[Nick Praw]

I'll tell you this, I'll say this. I've. I don't think I've said it on the Internet before, but I'd like to say it here because I know there's people watching who will get it. It's a hard lesson to learn, but it's a good lesson to learn. I went through a nasty divorce while I was in the Marine Corps. Drove me away from a lot of my friends. It killed a lot of my friendships because I got stuck in that silo of misery. Right after my ex wife left me, one of my best friends killed himself. And that broke me for a very long time. And just recently, within the past couple of years, I'm starting to make peace with that. I'm okay with it. Obviously. I go do my therapy and I get help and I talk to people and I'm not, I don't feel like I'm off the rails or going crazy. I just, I think that it's an important thing to talk about because you don't know what anybody's going through. And the more you talk about that's, that's where we can have breakthroughs and discussions and people can learn lessons that maybe they don't have to learn the hard way like I did.

[Tyler]

And that's.

[Nick Praw]

I went through a lot.

[Tyler]

That's so interesting because there, that to me is your resume. There's your real resume, the, the shooting and all that other stuff. There's a real dude who's been through it, young guy too. Been through a lot and is putting out content about shooting and has a disagreement or a different stance on something and gets attacked by a bunch of guys who want to all over your character or your resume. And they'll never slow down enough to realize that's the dude behind the reel. That's the guy that's gone through some real life things. I don't care if it again, I know you can shoot and you have a difference of hand grip or something different about a piece of equipment. Yeah, that's normal. That's normal. Right.

[Nick Praw]

But that's a good way to start conversations.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And then the people go, who is this guy? And it's like you just rattled off more life experience than a 50, some 55, 60 year old men. Like they don't have that. They've Never gone through any of that stuff and struggled. And it's like this guy that was

[Nick Praw]

all within three years.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nick Praw]

I mean, that's like.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's, that's a lot. That's a resume, right? That. It doesn't mean you can halo in from 10,000ft or shoot a, A, a terrorist going up a steps or write a book about it, but you have real life experience, like I said, that most people won't ex. Won't even have in 50 years. And you're 24, and then you get on the Internet, you make a stance, you take a sting, you say, this is my opinion. This is what I think. And that takes balls as well. I mean, you're not dancing around selling products or, you know, getting ready. You're actually out doing work, shooting competition, and you have an opinion. And it's like, well, your opinion would mean more if you were this guy or if you had this in your resume or if you did this. And it's like, well.

[Nick Praw]

And people tend to get it twisted. People do really get it twisted sometimes. I'm not out here selling my training or selling what I'm doing. I'm here trying to start a community within a community and grow this hobby of mine into something that it used to be, which a lot more people used to do. It, it's died down a lot now. It's not as competitive. I want to get people back into that because I see a lot of dudes get out, they don't have hobbies, they don't know what to do. And I mean, we all do it. We all go on Facebook and we see some dude got killed in a motorcycle accident or some dude head on collision, 130 miles an hour. You can't tell me that's just incidental. Some people just really have issues and they don't know how to vent it. They don't know how to take care of themselves. And they need a little bit of guidance of, hey, this is something that a lot of guys that are vets like guns, some don't. I don't know why, but that's something that you can get into, like fishing. You can go fishing. I'll talk to you about fishing all day long. I use a Shimano bait caster, and I've been fishing, like, lately, and I mainly bass fish up here, but that's something that I like to do. I bow hunt. I mean, everybody has to have hobbies. And if you don't have hobbies, you're gonna go insane.

[Tyler]

I, I Say this and I'm, I've seen, thank God my wife transform that where it went from. So work heavy. Like most guys, people forget, the reason we're actually here is like we were here to enjoy life, we're here to have a good time. Now do you have to make money? You have to work? Yeah, but we get so lost in that, that rat race of, and the hustle of working so hard for other people, we forget to work hard for ourselves. And I think that's a great point you're making is we all want to do those things and there's all the cliche memes and do it today, won't be here tomorrow or, you know, but in the, in the videos and the, in the memes and all those things, those things that show like time goes by and you forget that, but that again, very mature for 24 to have that thought process is very important because we will work, work, work, work, work, work, work. And just like me, I, I'm, I'm glad that I figured it out in enough time. I wish I figured out sooner, but I know I'm still healthy and I have a lot of life ahead of me and I have that mind out. It's like when I say put myself first, I don't mean be conceited, cocky, or like better than anybody else. Just like you put your tourniquet on first when you get shot. Yeah. You have to make sure you're doing good things for yourself. And it's important to not just live for everyone else or live for some boss or live for a job that's unforgiving. And when you do too long, I think that's the guys that take their life or do something crazy or get involved in alcohol and really lose it because they just don't know how to let it down and go, you know what? Hey man, I'm just here, today's another day, I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna go do these things. I, you know, I've been putting this off, I've been putting that off. That's a very refreshing thing that, when that finally clicks in your brain. So like I said, you're way ahead, man. I, I really think admirable, very mature and you have a great outlook on things and I know you struggle, I struggle, we all struggle. But I think you're on the, you're really at a young age, you're being very inspirational to people as far as how they should think. Because like I said, 56 year old men haven't really clicked yet that, that's important.

[Nick Praw]

Well, I'll give you one more good one. I'm see where our time here is getting pretty low, but we can stay

[Tyler]

as long as we want, buddy. I own the place.

[Nick Praw]

When I say, like, I, I learned this from a young age too, from my dad. And the Hmong population around here is really big. So a lot of Hmong guys I've heard say this. Are you living to work or are you working to live? Because there is a balance and you can work your ass off your whole life and I've seen dudes that have millions when they die, that's sure that's going to go to their kids. Their kids will have generational wealth, but they never had the time to spend with their own families. So are you working on that balance? Like when you're listening to this podcast right now, I don't know who all is watching right now, but if you're listening to this podcast and you're supposed to be with your family, we'll be here. You can go after and watch, spend time with your family because they're not going to be here forever. This shit's on the Internet. You can watch it whenever. But that's, that's the biggest sentiment that I like to tell people is like, don't get it twisted. Like, I'm not here to make millions. I'm not here to be super famous. I want to grow my own company and eventually I want to work on Glocks and I want to do custom work. That's my goal. That's in my bio. I'm not here to sell training or be a fucking shaman. I just want to tell people my experience and what works and what doesn't, in my own personal opinion. And that's about it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Did we talk about the Tyler? When did I make the Outback joke?

[Mike]

Make sure I don't ruin it with this shitty Internet.

[Tyler]

No, you're good. What did I joke about Outback? Was that on the Internet or was that me and you talking?

[Mike]

The steakhouse?

[Tyler]

Yeah. When I said I was drinking the 16 ounce outbacks with the kids and all that, you made fun of me. Yeah, this is where it equates. I was talking on Patreon the other night about how I thought I was living and, you know, drinking, going to dinner and going to Disney and I didn't like the kids, but I didn't slow down enough. Like, I was always worried about what everybody thought about me. I was worried about the job and, and, and I missed, like, I missed that Opportunity of window, like to enjoy those things. And it took me like on. What we're talking about is like being able to put the phone down, go on a cruise and like pick it up, like really get on the Internet like once a day, kind of catch up, make sure nobody's dead, put it back down and then just go back to living.

[Nick Praw]

So, you know, once you get to that point, Once you get to that point though, like going off what you said, once you get to the point of your family's taken care of, the bills are paid and you stop caring what other people think of you. It is a beautiful life.

[Tyler]

It is.

[Nick Praw]

Life is beautiful. Flowers are always out, the steaks are always super tasty.

[Tyler]

Yep, yep.

[Nick Praw]

Nothing, nothing could ever go wrong.

[Tyler]

Yep, you're right. You're right. And you know, there's little things and I'm still a baby when it comes to certain things. I pout. I'm not perfect, but I, I kind of quickly get in and out of that and go, you know, what, what am I, it's no big deal. What am I going to be upset about? Like really, you know, I draw, you know, I have. I, like you said, health, grandkids, kids, everybody's healthy, everybody's safe, my bills are paid, everything's good. And it's no reason to get upset about a comment in a real. Because somebody doesn't like, you're talking about a special ops guy. Right?

[Nick Praw]

Especially when they have like 20 followers and no posts.

[Tyler]

I mean, yeah.

[Nick Praw]

So, you know, these dudes don't even have profile pictures.

[Tyler]

It's all good, man. We're doing, we're doing the right thing, this community. You're a perfect example of how this community works and how somebody goes from somebody watching to somebody involved and you fit right in your perfect spot. And that's what counterculture is for. That's what the anti air broadcast was here for. To begin to make these things, build a community. And this is the, this is the moments where I don't care if there's 10, 000 people watching or 100 or it doesn't matter. There's people that are benefiting from this and people are growing from this. So it's worth the time and it's worth the effort.

[Nick Praw]

I'm here to help. Gentlemen.

[Tyler]

So we had a really soft gay episode today, huh? Everybody's crying and sentimental. We got to get back.

[Mike]

I don't know. I missed all that gay. What happened?

[Tyler]

Yeah, you were. What? Yeah, we were. We're just getting it up.

[Nick Praw]

There's Some good life advice in there. You could learn a little bit.

[Tyler]

Yeah, go back and watch, man. We. Your wife was pretty heavy in there, so just comment. So there's some tips you need to

[Mike]

take out watching this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

She conceded. It's your job. You're good. So.

[Nick Praw]

Yeah, it's one of those things.

[Tyler]

I gotta cut a promo after this.

[Nick Praw]

WWE promo.

[Tyler]

No, I do. For tomorrow's Hot Topic, I'm gonna have Lance Fisher on. So I gotta cut, like, a Music up, guys. Stop topic with Catfield.

[Nick Praw]

I gotta do that one of these Monday nights. People keep texting me, telling me I should dress up as the Joker.

[Mike]

No.

[Nick Praw]

Okay. I won't do that.

[Tyler]

The one from Batman, you mean? Right?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Nick Praw]

Not the guy on that other. Not the guy.

[Tyler]

No, that's the other guy. Okay.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Okay, good.

[Nick Praw]

I do have a red flag, though, right there.

[Tyler]

He's got a gun too.

[Nick Praw]

I don't have one of those.

[Tyler]

Good, good.

[Nick Praw]

I don't have one of those. Not yet, anyway.

[Mike]

All right, what do we got? What's today, Tuesday?

[Tyler]

No, we have G. Oh, no, we have the. We have an open slot for Thursdays or Tuesdays at 7, if anybody wants to start a show.

[Nick Praw]

I already got a Monday.

[Mike]

I think it's next week. He's coming back. Where's Valkyrie?

[Nick Praw]

Hey. But while I'm on here, since everybody's still listening, hopefully we should really do that shitty tattoo contest. And if you guys don't want to judge it, I will.

[Mike]

Will.

[Nick Praw]

I'm a tattoo artist, so I feel like I have a little bit of accolades.

[Mike]

I'm gonna. Well, I. I. You. You beat me to the punch, dude. I was gonna. I'm gonna put 99 on this side of my neck and on the neck. Yeah. I wanted to get. I wanted to be the first one to do it, to lead by example, but I'm so, like. I don't. I don't know what the word is. Like, no, no, no, no. I'm like, beside. Shut the up. I'm trying to be nice. I'm beside myself that a community that we created, people are. Are that. Are that down for it to. To get a tattoo to, you know, to. To represent it? Because I. I kind of was expecting, like, I'm gonna have to do it first because they know I'm serious, and it's serious enough to where you tattooed it on your leg. So, I mean.

[Tyler]

I mean, there's a lot of people that get live love on their tattoos, so, you know, or infinity hello Kitty

[Nick Praw]

with an AK Tattoo. I don't know. I've got some weird ones, though.

[Mike]

So now. Yeah, now you have a meaningful one.

[Tyler]

I have something to surprise. I got a breaking announcement to make. Starving.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh, you made it. Oh. Two minutes till. Good job, Mike.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Nick Praw]

You need that Reddit. That rata. No appetite.

[Tyler]

I've tried it. It. I'd rather just get yoked. I'm on Carnivore, so it's not terrible. It's not terrible.

[Nick Praw]

Well, I'm doing that too, but I still get the. The cravings and I still feel bloated.

[Tyler]

I just eat.

[Nick Praw]

I don't know if I'm doing too many carbs or not. Like, I'm doing, like, a day.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I go under. Way under.

[Nick Praw]

Way under.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Nick Praw]

What do you do with the burger patties? Because I'll put cheese on them and just. I'll do like three at a time, and then I put a little bit of bacon next to it and some cheese and like. Yeah, it works.

[Tyler]

I'm on a wing. I'm on a wings kick. I've been getting, like, garlic parm wings and just killing, like, 20 at a time.

[Nick Praw]

My girl's just kind of a baby about it because she's like, well, we gotta go to Chipotle or we gotta go do this. And you're on this diet. You can't eat here. And it's like, nah, dude, I'll still eat it. Like, you have a cheat meal once. That diet keto's not banging on my door.

[Tyler]

I have not cheated since my carbivore diet in Boston, man.

[Mike]

That was a bad one, too. Watching. Watching Mike try to justify, like, eating a 12 inch hoagie.

[Tyler]

It was big. Two 12 inch. It was like.

[Nick Praw]

Like a grizzly bear. It was probably like watching a grizzly bear kill a. I think the Whopper was worse.

[Mike]

The Whopper was worse. The worst thing was Mike rented a BMW because we can't just have a regular car. Mike rented a BMW and then curb the. The. Out of all the right rims. And he's like, it's fine, it's fine. I'm like, dude, you're not gonna look.

[Tyler]

And he's like, it's fine, Boston, dude.

[Nick Praw]

That's why your wife drives.

[Mike]

And then she goes, did you just curb your rims? Like, nope.

[Jesse Waters]

That's cool.

[Mike]

I do that all the time.

[Tyler]

They're curb their curb finding rims. They hit the curb and then they adjust the car. It's a feature,

[Mike]

dude.

[Nick Praw]

My. My wife would kill me if I curve the wheels on her 300.

[Tyler]

No, if I curled the real world curb the real world wheels, I'd be done because we have them for.

[Mike]

And I'd be before she can get. Damn it. All right. I did do that to Heather's caddy when I One of the times I went and visited her in Cali. I was. I'm so used to having a jacked up, 36 inch tired truck that I don't care about curbs. And I was backing her caddy into a spot at in and out and I scraped her. It was the most embarrassing thing in the world. My new girlfriend's Cadillacs. Rims.

[Tyler]

Getting that neck. Building that neck at in and out.

[Nick Praw]

What should I do right here. What do you think? I was thinking change.

[Tyler]

Let it come naturally.

[Nick Praw]

Do some crazy.

[Tyler]

You're gonna wake up.

[Mike]

Let it come naturally on your throat.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that'll come naturally.

[Nick Praw]

No, just relax.

[Mike]

Just relax.

[Tyler]

Just relax.

[Mike]

All right, we're at. We're at 301. All right, guys. Tonight nothing on counterculture network, but tomorrow the anti broadcast will be back 1pm on YouTube. We'll see you guys then.

[Tyler]

Oh, are you ending it? I got. I got it. I got it.

[Nick Praw]

Dude.

[Mike]

Jv team for life.