Jim Hood of Elevated Silence (03/25/2026)

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast — Ep. with Jim Hood of Elevated Silence (03/25/2026)

Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Host: The Antihero Podcast (Tyler, Justin, et al.)
Guest: Jim Hood (Founder, Elevated Silence)
Date: March 25, 2026
Audience: Veterans, first responders, blue collar Americans

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Episode Overview

This episode features a deep-dive interview with Jim Hood, founder of Elevated Silence, a company specializing in firearm suppressors (“silencers”). The conversation explores Jim’s personal journey from a banking executive to a self-made entrepreneur in the firearms industry, the evolution of suppressor legality and technology, advice for self-employment, and a range of topical issues from law enforcement challenges to current political climates.

Throughout, the hosts and Jim maintain a laid-back, relatable, and sometimes tongue-in-cheek tone, mixing practical business insights with personal anecdotes, technical firearm discussions, and societal commentary relevant to veterans, first responders, and working-class Americans.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Getting to Know Jim Hood & His Background

• Origin Story:

  • Grew up in the Florida panhandle, didn’t move away or go to college (“graduated high school with a 1.7 GPA”, [15:13]).
  • Spent nearly 20 years in banking—served as VP of mortgage lending before being laid off in 2012 amid industry consolidation ([10:51], [14:30]).
  • “The only thing that can prepare you for being self-employed is being self-employed.” — Jim Hood ([11:29])
  • “You have to watch out for number one because nobody else will.” — Jim Hood ([13:14])
  • After being laid off (“19 and a half years, I round up” [14:33]), with a pregnant wife and 23-month-old child at home, pivoted to entrepreneurship.

• Transition to Entrepreneur:

  • Initial venture: Flipping houses with wife after real estate crash ([15:59], [16:36])
  • “I always liked to fix stuff to figure stuff out…That’s one of the mottos we have in our family: If you don’t know how to do it, figure it out. And it never hurts to ask questions.” — Jim Hood ([16:41])
  • 2015: Founded seven companies, including plumbing, electrical, concrete, construction, and a gun company ([17:20])

2. Entrepreneurship Realities

• Partnerships and Learning:

  • Most business partners didn’t last — only trusted his wife as a true partner ([19:27])
  • “The only partner that I was left with is my wife, the one I should have trusted to begin with.” — Jim Hood ([19:27])
  • Brought family into the business for trust and reliability.

• Embracing Failure & Growth:

  • Mistakes are inevitable (“You make a ton of mistakes…if I can't figure it out…I say, here, Tiffany [his sister], you handle it.” [18:31])

• Suppressor Business Origin:

  • Started Elevated Silence as a retailer; personal experience hunting with his son led to designing a suppressor (baffle stack) from a napkin drawing ([34:21])
  • “God put an idea in my head about a baffle stack…one thing led to another…we shot it, and it was perfect.” — Jim Hood ([34:22])

3. Suppressors: Technology, Legality, and Misconceptions

• Suppressor Legislation and Advocacy:

  • Sits on the board of the American Suppressor Association ([22:21])
  • Instrumental in expanding legal ownership to 43 states and fighting anti-suppressor legislation (e.g., defeating a proposed $500 state tax in Virginia) ([23:16])
  • 90% of owners “have no idea what went on behind the scenes to make it legal for them.” — Jim Hood ([23:38])
  • Recent changes: $200 tax stamp reduced to $0, electronic approvals in a few days ([25:29])
    • “The only reason you don’t buy a suppressor now is because you don’t want one.” — Jim Hood ([24:20])
  • Process is streamlined; Excuses like “not wanting to be on a government list” are unfounded ([24:54])

• Why Suppressor Control? Debunking Myths:

  • “There’s a lot of uneducated politicians in the gun world that think you can screw on a silencer…go in a crowd, shoot 50 people, and nobody knows where it came from.” ([29:48], [30:10])
  • Suppressors lower sound signature but do not make weapons “silent”; only movies and video games perpetuate this ([27:31])
    • Closest to silent: “.22 on a bolt gun shooting subsonic—that’s a snake fart.” — Jim Hood ([27:57])
  • Suppressors are safety tools—ear/hearing protection, reduce recoil/flinch, NOT “murder devices”
  • Historical context: 1934 NFA imposed the $200 tax stamp (today’s equivalent: ~$4,400) to keep them exclusive ([33:20])

• Technical Details:

  • Suppressors work by channeling and cooling gases, similar to a car muffler ([35:47])
  • Each caliber/gun type requires specialized suppressors due to different pressures ([37:04])
  • Currently developing a .45 caliber suppressor for .45, 450 Bushmaster, etc.—won’t release until perfect ([45:51])

• Industry Camaraderie:

  • High level of mutual respect among suppressor manufacturers despite being competitors ([39:54])
  • “We try to make stuff quiet…some people figure stuff out that I haven’t, I figured stuff that other people haven’t.” — Jim Hood ([40:19])
  • Testing is rigorous—e.g., a belt-fed 5.56 suppressor lasted 301 rounds in a “let it eat” mag dump ([47:41])

4. Community: Law Enforcement & Military

• Law Enforcement Applications:

  • Growing use of suppressors in police and SWAT for hearing safety and tactical benefits
    • “If you’ve ever fired an unsuppressed 5.56 in a closed room, you need hearing aids…a lot of agencies either changing out old stuff or for signature benefits” ([55:19])
    • “Suppressors are a lot cheaper than hearing aids. And they look way cooler.” — Jim Hood ([56:48])
  • Suppressors help with “signature control” on SWAT, patrol, SROs—making it safer for officers and bystanders ([56:09])

• Military & Patriotism:

  • Discussed military “ramp-up,” possible draft, changing age requirements (from 37 to 50) ([60:23])
  • On sending his own children to war: “Selfishly as a dad, do I want that? Probably not. But if that’s what he wants to do, I’m going to support him” ([64:59])
  • Reflection on veteran experience, family balance, and the wisdom gained through time ([67:19])

• Advice for First Responders:

  • Importance of “finding outlets” and separating job from personal life ([72:03])
  • Law enforcement/military culture tends toward over-identification with the mission at the expense of health, family ([68:00], [71:36])

5. Broader Industry & Social Discussion

• Real Estate Flipping Lessons:

  • Started small with distressed/foreclosed homes after the market crash—first foray into entrepreneurship ([42:10])
  • Lessons from Deltona, FL about how housing crises and rental influxes affect community crime and property values ([42:20])

• Federal Law Enforcement Careers:

  • Discussion of ICE, TSA, HSI, and how changing administrations/political climates affect federal law enforcement jobs and job security ([83:03], [84:03])
  • Noted government pay crises, living paycheck to paycheck, and how shutdowns create cascading hardship for federal workers ([86:53])

• Current Events:

  • Covered recent news where a Boston police officer (Nicholas O’Malley) was arrested and charged for a line-of-duty shooting within seven days—hosts and Jim criticize hasty prosecution as “election year tactics” ([96:40], [104:17])
    • “A car crash investigation lasts longer than seven days.” — Jim Hood ([98:20])
    • “If his partner was about to get run over and he stopped that from happening…I think he deserves a medal, not cuffs.” — Jim Hood ([99:48])

6. Humorous & Memorable Moments

• Notable Quotes:

  • “If you don’t know how to do it, figure it out.” — Jim Hood (recurring theme)
  • “You can't argue with that level of stupid because they’re going to bring you down to their level and beat you out of experience.” — Jim Hood ([30:10])
  • “The best way to make a million dollars in the gun industry is to start with two.” — Jim Hood ([40:56])
  • “Suppressors will improve your accuracy for two main reasons: less recoil, no flinch.” — Jim Hood ([75:21])

• Running Gags:

  • Tech issues at the start (“Best, worst tech guy ever…all the tech doesn’t work, but he can work you through your tech problems.” [07:38])
  • Playful banter about law enforcement, tier-levels of military units, and the definition of “first responders” (esp. male nurses, dispatchers, [91:43], [92:55])
  • References to pop culture—Punisher, Daredevil, and the recurring need to “look cool” on the job ([76:13])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time | |-------------------------------------------|-------------| | Jim Hood’s background/story | 09:33–16:41 | | From banker to entrepreneur | 10:51–16:41 | | The origin of Elevated Silence | 17:20–34:22 | | Suppressor legal history & advocacy | 22:21–25:29 | | Suppressor myths and technicals | 26:56–39:45 | | Law enforcement & MIL use of suppressors | 53:15–58:44 | | Federal law enforcement job climate | 83:03–87:59 | | Boston officer OIS prosecution | 96:31–104:42 | | Reflections on war, military, family | 61:12–71:44 |

Memorable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jim on self-employment:
  “About being self-employed: the only thing that can prepare you for it is being self-employed. That’s it.” ([11:29])

• Jim on entrepreneurship:
  “You have to watch out for number one because nobody else will.” ([13:14])

• On suppressor legality: “The only reason you don’t buy a suppressor now is because you don’t want one.” ([24:20])

• On suppressor effectiveness: “22 on a bolt gun shooting subsonic—that’s about as close as you’re going to get to hearing nothing. That’s a snake fart. It is so cool.” ([27:57])

• On over-identifying with high-stress jobs: “They tried teaching you that stuff in the academy…They try to tell you, turn it off, go fishing…There's no telling a young go-getter cop that.” ([71:44])

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers an engaging blend of personal entrepreneurial journey, technical firearm information, law enforcement perspective, and commentary on the social and political climate—all through a lens of humility, humor, and practical wisdom. Jim Hood stands out as a grounded, “regular guy” entrepreneur who “figures things out,” values integrity and partnership, and genuinely cares about his industry and community.

Listeners walk away with a clearer understanding of suppressors and their social narratives, the importance of adaptability and relationships in business, and a healthy skepticism toward political and media-driven narratives about firearms and law enforcement.

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For More

• Elevated Silence: elevatedsilence.com — Use promo code ANTIHERO15 for 15% off
• The Antihero Broadcast: Wednesdays are #FriendsDay for current events and guest features

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"Figure it out." — Jim Hood

(A fitting family motto and recurring message for entrepreneurs, first responders, and blue collar Americans alike.)

Transcript

[Justin]

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[Jim Hood]

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[Tyler]

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[Jim Hood]

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[Tyler]

And right now you can get Disney

[Jim Hood]

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[Tyler]

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[Jim Hood]

fees and boosting fees apply.

[Tyler]

See website for details. Team for life Good morning. It is Wednesday Friends Day March 25, 2026. The antihero broadcast is the news entertainment broadcast for veterans, first responders and all blue collar Americans. This shows of course brought to you by Ghostbed. Go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero Save 10 on their already ridiculously bill prices. Everything from pillowcases, match toppers, cooling packs and technology sheets. Their award winning mattresses 65,000 plus five star rating and reviews in house customer service, free shipping and free returns. If you got to replace something in the bedroom, go to ghostbed.com antihero. You'll save 10 and it'll tell them that we sent you. And Elevated Silence. We got Jim coming on a little bit from Elevated Silence. Go to elevated silence.com and use promo code ANTI HERO15 save 15 on your can everything from 22s to 50 cows exercise your second amendment right. Jim will walk you through it. It is not a complicated process. Get yourself a suppressor. Go to elevated silence.com use promo code ANTIHERO15 and save 15 and we'll have a lot more to talk about when Jim joins us here in a few minutes. We have with us though. Ian.

[Ian Keller]

What is up guys?

[Tyler]

I can't hear Justin.

[Ian Keller]

Oh no.

[Tyler]

Justin, can you hear us?

[Ian Keller]

I don't think Justin can hear us either.

[Tyler]

Oh no. Anyways, we have Ian here. He's one of the 99. And he's gonna help me co host since Mike's a lazy douche who's on a cruise. So, Ian, introduce yourself. Do you want. Can everybody know your name on your tag, your handle?

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, yeah. So my name is Ian Keller. I. That's my government name. But you'll see me in the chat. Says Fumasa. I'm one of the. I guess you could say the co host of the Counterculture Gaming Studios podcast. I don't know what we're really calling it.

[Tyler]

I like it.

[Ian Keller]

But yeah, so you can catch us live at 9pm on Saturdays. We try to keep that. We try to keep that time so that people have time to hang out with their families on Saturdays.

[Tyler]

And that. Your phone.

[Ian Keller]

Is it mine?

[Tyler]

Oh, it's okay. Rookie mistake.

[Ian Keller]

It's okay. Yeah, I know, right?

[Tyler]

So you guys go live on Counterculture Gaming on Saturday nights?

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, so we go live on Twitch. I guess I'll have to get with you about trying to go live on YouTube because I don't know how I could get it to go live on. On YouTube without having signed into your YouTube account.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we can get you hooked up.

[Ian Keller]

I just don't know how that works.

[Tyler]

Me either. But, yeah, me and Justin clearly don't know how any of this works.

[Justin]

Like, I don't know what. What is going on? Like. Yeah, no, I'm back. Yeah, it's AirPod. Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

Okay.

[Tyler]

It's that new mic you bought, bro.

[Justin]

I. Man, I don't know.

[Ian Keller]

Is it plugged in?

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Ian Keller]

Okay.

[Tyler]

I. Just making sure.

[Justin]

Yeah, you guys had me open up the. The. The road app and then maybe the road app it up. Who knows?

[Tyler]

But Ian, so you guys are going to be streaming live Saturday nights at 9pm but you also are releasing a podcast.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ian Keller]

So, yeah, so we'll go live at 9pm on Saturdays, and then if you guys missed that, you're not, you know, you're out with your family doing the things that you do with your family. I believe we want to start releasing the episodes on Wednesdays, but I don't know if that's a good day. You guys let me know if you guys want it earlier and I can, you know, I guess work with you on. On releasing it earlier.

[Tyler]

I'd say podcast. So are you releasing the live show just after the fact on Wednesdays? Like, is it. Or are you guys doing a whole separately recorded.

[Ian Keller]

No, so it's. It's recorded and streamed live on Saturday,

[Tyler]

and then we'll take that same.

[Ian Keller]

Exactly. And just shift it over to YouTube. So that it. So that people that watch things on YouTube. Because I know coming over to Twitch is also like you're jumping platforms and all that stuff and that sometimes isn't

[Tyler]

fun, but I don't know anything about that.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, Twitch is. If no one has ever been on Twitch. Twitch is like the, I guess you could say the premier gaming like platform that everyone streams to. You can find a bunch of other things on there, but it's mainly for video games and that's where a lot of your high end video game players like got famous, I guess you could say.

[Tyler]

What else is on?

[Ian Keller]

I imagine that you could find anything on there that you wanted to if you looked it up in like a category, kind of nothing like YouTube, but definitely, I mean you can find, I'm sure you can find cooking classes on there.

[Jim Hood]

Anything.

[Ian Keller]

Anyone who wants to stream to twitch.

[Tyler]

Nothing like YouTube, but exactly like YouTube.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah. Like you would find more live stuff there. It would just be happening live. But most people's pages save the live for an extended like a period of time. And then that depends on like your level that you're with Twitch. Like you've got like these affiliates and stuff like that.

[Tyler]

Yeah. The goal would be for you guys to go live and also stream onto Facebook and then that way you guys can just keep the episode after the live on there.

[Ian Keller]

Exactly.

[Tyler]

You don't have to do all the back end uploading.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, exactly, because I don't. What do you guys do with your videos when they get uploaded to YouTube? Do you delete them off your computer? Because these, these files are getting like 15 gigabytes and I'm like, yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I gotta get an external hard drive or something.

[Tyler]

They're saved on. We save our, our video on our streaming platform called Stream Yard and then we download it for the day, we upload it to YouTube and then we get rid of it.

[Ian Keller]

Okay. And then you just delay that.

[Tyler]

Once it's on YouTube you can get it back, you can re download it.

[Ian Keller]

Okay.

[Tyler]

It's your content.

[Justin]

I have an external hard drive that's doing the same thing as my microphone apparently, and it's not registering. So it's like this is every donut shop podcast ever. And I'm like freaking out because I can't get back onto it. So I need to try and recover it somehow.

[Jim Hood]

It.

[Justin]

It works, but it's just not. So all my episodes are there other than YouTube.

[Tyler]

Justin, you're the best tech guy ever.

[Justin]

Best. Worst tech guy.

[Tyler]

Ever. All the tech doesn't work, but he can work you through your tech problems.

[Jim Hood]

There you go.

[Justin]

Call me while I'm cooking dinner and I can get you set up. But my own play the game.

[Ian Keller]

But he can't play the game himself, you know.

[Justin]

No, no, no. I read the instructions and then gave up.

[Jim Hood]

All right.

[Tyler]

But yeah, so before, you know, before we move on with the episode. This is Ian from Counterculture Gaming. I get. I mean, we're. I'm gonna throw it up. It's scheduled to go up at six today.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, yeah, six o'.

[Tyler]

Clock.

[Ian Keller]

If you haven't. If you didn't come by and watch it live the last Saturday that it was produced, then you can go on the Countercultural Inc. YouTube and it'll be there 6pm tonight.

[Tyler]

Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, Jim Hood from Elevated Silence.

[Jim Hood]

What's up, gentlemen?

[Tyler]

Jim, how you doing, man?

[Jim Hood]

I'm quite well. How are you guys?

[Tyler]

We're good. Had some tech issues. Just is still working through his. It wouldn't be a live show without tech issues, though, so there you go. Yeah, but I mean, we. We started this Wednesday Friends Day thing where we just dedicate Wednesdays to current events, just like always. But we try to keep it more focused on guests, but not like, you know, oh, we got to get the celebrity guests on here. We got to get the Navy SEALs. This is more of, like, getting to know people that we, we work with, we partner with, we associate with. And, you know, you've been such a gracious partner for us for a long time, I think, you know, probably coming up on a year. And a lot of people ask us about you, and I'm like, oh, I'm such a great dude. And they're like, oh, cool. And I'm like, you know what? We need to get Jim on here. So everybody should get to know Jim because I know him as an awesome dude, so.

[Jim Hood]

But yeah, place. That's all.

[Tyler]

I love it. That's such a good. That's just such a good slogan too. We. And this kind of. My relationship with you started in the. And we had our first conversation. At the end of it, you said, wow, man, I kind of wish all business meetings went like that. And I felt the same way. And so then I. As I got to know you, I'm like, you don't seem like the guy that grew up with a. What do they call it? Like a silver spoon. You seem like a very, very average guy that is just. And I mean, I would like to talk about. If you're comfortable. You know, your success story and how you built, you know, your elevated. I. I'm. I'm calling it this, but the elevated empire and how you stay so grounded as a person and you know, stuff like that.

[Jim Hood]

I grew up with a spoon in my mouth. All right. But it was a phone. A folding disposable spork. Definitely was nice silver by any means.

[Tyler]

And it broke a lot.

[Jim Hood]

There you go. Hard to eat with.

[Tyler]

So what was it? What you know. So where did you grow up? What did you do before entre entrepreneurship or was entrepreneurship right out the gate your thing?

[Jim Hood]

Not at all. This is really going to blow your mind. So I grew up in the panhandle of Florida. Just my whole life I was that guy that never moved off, never went to college, didn't do any of that. But I spent 20 years in banking before I went self employed.

[Tyler]

That is. That did surprise me. I would not have guessed. I never thought of banker. That's crazy.

[Jim Hood]

I was the matter of fact. Let me see if I can find this real quick. I was the shirt and tie guy constantly. Every day.

[Justin]

I mean it gives you a bit of a background for financing and how to speak to the banks. At least if. When you need to raise your own capital.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Jim Hood]

To speak to the banks. Yes. As far as did it relate to knowing what to do when you're self employed? Not near what I thought. About being self employed is the only thing that can prepare you for it is being self employed. That's it.

[Tyler]

That's what you told me.

[Jim Hood]

You ready for this one?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Ian Keller]

Oh, that is nice.

[Tyler]

You look like you're running for congress.

[Jim Hood]

Hell no.

[Justin]

American flag back there behind him. Oh, just. Yeah, we'll do all kinds of work with it.

[Tyler]

Look at that. And. And also Mike. Sentences regard. His lazy ass is on a cruise. He's a vacation and he really wishes he could be here. But I was like, well then cancel your cruises and come on. And he left. So I'm just gonna need you to

[Ian Keller]

end that real early. Okay.

[Jim Hood]

But nothing really prepares you for self employment. And I learned early on that if you're not sweating over payroll when you get started, you're not self employed.

[Tyler]

Yes. And one thing you all. I mean I. I learned a lot from you just in these. These just casual conversations we have one of the things you also told me and you said, I'm Tyler. I'm not trying to be cynical, but in entrepreneurship you can absolutely trust no one and everyone. It will you over. And. And you were. It was a basis for A mindset to have. Obviously you're talking to somebody so that hasn't done any wrong to you. Like you have done nothing but support anti hero and anything we need. So obviously there are people out there. But I think the right frame of mind is to always know that people are capable of looking out for themselves.

[Jim Hood]

Absolutely. You have to watch out for number one because nobody else will.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

The one and only true partner that I have outside of God himself is my wife. That's it. That's the only business partner that you really need to keep grounded with.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And then you got to make sure that works too.

[Jim Hood]

100.

[Tyler]

So you're in banking and did you. What was it that got you out of it?

[Jim Hood]

So long story longer. The bank that I was working for and had been there for seven or eight years, something like that. I was the vice president of mortgage lending. I had two states at Alabama and Florida and we were part of a bank holding company out of Ohio. They decided to sell us off. This was late 11, early 2012 when they sold us off to the new bank. The new bank decided not to retain 61 members of management. I was the 61st decision and they chose not to keep. To add fuel to the fire. I had a 23 month old son and my wife was eight months pregnant and they just gave me 90 days severance pay.

[Ian Keller]

Wow. And you were 20 years into this and that's all they gave you?

[Jim Hood]

I was actually 19 and a half. I round up.

[Tyler]

I like hearing all, I like hearing these stories because you know, anybody listening right now is at risk of employment ending. Whether it be self employment, whether it be they're, they're employed by somebody. And you know, you got to think you're. You get terminated from a specific industry like that or laid off. It's a rat race now to get a paycheck. You're, you know, and what was, what did you. Did it go through your head at first? Maybe entrepreneurship or were you going to. I need to get, you know, I need to get. Stay in the industry and get a new job.

[Jim Hood]

So after spending 20 years in that career not having. I graduated high school with a 1.7 GPA. I went to. I went to a local community college and took three remedial courses and failed two of them for lack of attendance. School was not my thing. Like it. But I was given the opportunity to get into banking. And once. That's all, you know, for 20 years. You think that's all you can do?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Jim Hood]

The enemy will tell you. The enemy will tell you that you have to stay here. This is, this is all you know, you don't know anything else. And we, we kind of proved that wrong. When I got the phone call, I was on the way to my in laws house over in Alabama and it was, it was. You don't know what to think. You don't know what to do.

[Tyler]

You don't.

[Jim Hood]

You have no idea. You know, you got 90 days to figure it out. And that was tough. We were very fortunate. I've always wanted to work with my hands. My wife had been a real estate broker for, I guess at that point, six or eight years, something like that. So it wasn't like we were going to starve death, but it wasn't like there was a regular paycheck every Friday either. So we decided to start flipping houses. We're in the panhandle. This is where everybody wants to go. We started flipping houses. Was fun. It was profitable. And it was hard.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Were you always good with your. Were you always good with your hands? Like, were you always like.

[Jim Hood]

I always like to fix stuff to figure stuff out. So I didn't have a dad growing up. My dad was MIA. I hadn't talked to him in 20 years, which is awesome. My grandfather taught me anything, had any, anything to do with my hands. That's what he taught me. He taught me how to be a man. And one thing that he taught me is to figure stuff out. If you don't know how to do it, that's fine. Figure it out. So my whole life I've just figured stuff out. And that's, that's one of the mottos we have in our family. If you know how to do something, figure it out. And it never hurts to ask questions.

[Tyler]

That's exactly what they say in the military. Figure it out.

[Jim Hood]

So I'll shorten it up. We, we started flipping houses for three or four years and then subs got hard to get, got hard to find. So I went on a rampage in 2015 and opened up seven different companies. Opened up a plumbing company, an electrical company, concrete engineering, construction, electrical. I don't know if I said that yet or not. And one of them was a gun company. Because what man doesn't want to get online, order guns and have them shipped to the house, Right?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

Fast forward to now. I have sold everything except for the holding companies that we have and concentrating on elevated sellers.

[Tyler]

Wow. What is the paper alert work like for seven companies?

[Jim Hood]

You just got to figure it out.

[Justin]

Just figure it out.

[Jim Hood]

I could sit here and write you an Outline of a this is what to do and how to do now.

[Tyler]

Departmentofrevenue.com Then you stare at that screen for about 45 minutes before you say,

[Ian Keller]

I don't know what I'm wearing, what I just read.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's eventually going to come to you.

[Jim Hood]

And you make mistakes. You make a ton of mistakes. You realize a year later that, oh, we should have done that and didn't do it. I brought my sister on to work for me back in, I think her first day was the week of January in 2016, and she's still sitting over in that office. She has been with me through thick and thin and she's learned more than I have because if I can't figure it out, I don't have time to do it. I say, here, Tiffany, you handle it. And it's just, you keep your family motto going.

[Ian Keller]

You figure it out.

[Jim Hood]

You figure it out. I've got all this other to figure out. I need you to figure this out.

[Tyler]

Yeah, man. So you know, you, you got all these companies, you sell them all in elevated silence. Is that, is it because that's become a kind of like a passion for you. Like you enjoy doing it, obviously you probably enjoy working with your hands, but plumbing and electricity don't sound as fun as guns.

[Jim Hood]

Not at all. Not at all. Not to mention I wasn't licensed in any of those other companies and I had partners in them that didn't last long. I had to, there was a lot of partner issues and we all ended up splitting ways and the only partner that I was left with is my wife, the one I should have trusted to begin with. Silencers is fun. It's trying at times. There's a lot of, a lot of part of this industry that I don't like, but that's going to be with anything. You got to take a little bit of bad with a good. But I mean, I get to meet people like you guys. I mean, I get to meet tons of, of special operators. I get to get to go to all these events. I get world class training from these guys. It's, it's fun. And, and if, if I can put the icing on the cake, when you're sitting there shooting with someone and they say, well, you know, I shoot this pressure, I shoot that one and I screw mine on there. And I said, well, shoot that one. And then they look up and they give you that grin like, wow,

[Tyler]

that was me. I remember when you, you that face. Yeah, we were, we were introduced by Eddie Gallagher and I was I was really excited. We had great phone calls. And you were like, you're. You stand behind your product and you were like, we gotta go shooting. That's like the next step. That's, that's really the final step. But I gotta take you shooting. So we go and you came all the way to us. You and he got it. I think. You guys drove here, right? We did. Eddie and I travel well together and, and we shot. And it was probably the most fun range day I've ever had because it, you know, just suppressor after gun after gun, you know, like, hey, you want to shoot a sniper rifle? Like.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ian Keller]

I've always wanted to do that.

[Jim Hood]

Shooting hostage target. Hostage targets at 600 yards.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, I've never done that before. I had no sniping in any of my training as far as military and law enforcement. So that was my. I think that was my first time behind a gun like that.

[Jim Hood]

Oh, wow.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

If I remember correctly. Good times.

[Justin]

What? Yeah, I got a, I got a question. I might be jumping ahead a little bit in the range of things, but with, with stuff that we see in it. Like, like I sit there and I pay attention to stuff like pistol braces because I got, you know, A pistol braced AR15 type, you know, set up, you know, the, the cheap. The poor man's way of going through an sbr. And what. Do you have any kind of experience with going in with some of this legislation that goes in with suppressors? Because I know they're, they change stuff all the time. And so aside from just, you know, being manufacturing and stuff, do you, you know, lobby and work with that kind of stuff?

[Jim Hood]

I'm going to geek out on you here. You're going to have some questions. If I graze over something, stop me. I sit on the board of the American Suppressor association, which was formed by Knox Williams about 12, 14 years ago. If it weren't for the American Suppressor association, there would only be a handful of states where you could legally own a suppressor.

[Justin]

Okay.

[Jim Hood]

And now we're up to 43, I believe, 43 states where you can legally own one. And we're working on the other seven. There is a ton of stuff that goes on behind the scenes. There's a ton of lobbying. There's case in point, Virginia, where they were trying to, I think it was Virginia. They were trying to impose a $500 tax stamp on all suppressors in the state. Our guys got on the ground, went to the legislation, the state legislation, and was able to, to get that killed.

[Tyler]

Good.

[Jim Hood]

So it's things like that that happen every day our guys are on the ground. And it takes money to do this. I'll get into that in a minute. It takes money to send these guys off and do that. 90 of the people that own a suppressor have no idea what went on behind the scenes to give them. Yeah, I can't say the right to, because I've always had the right to, but to. To make it legal for them to do that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. And we tell people a lot on one of them, you know, when we read your ad every day, we kind of. You know, I always stick to kind of like a little talking points because I don't want to forget them because they're important. But one of the things, you know, I relay to people is that it is your right and the process is not as intimidating as it seems. And I don't know if that's because the past, like, you're talking about where, like, you know, anything with any type of tax stamp or anything like that, people are just like, dude, I'm not trying to go through that whole process. And from what you told us, I mean, you were on night shift about six months ago and you explained it to us, and I was like, wow, it is a lot simpler than I thought it was.

[Jim Hood]

It's. It's a real simple process. And. And let me. Let me preface this by saying I don't like the process. I don't think there should be a process. But the fact that there is one. We have my guys, with the help of the atf. I did say the help of the atf, because there are a lot of good folks inside that. That agency. I promise it's been streamlined to the point to where the only reason you don't buy a suppressor now is because you don't want one.

[Tyler]

Yes, I hear.

[Jim Hood]

I hear excuses. Such as, well, I don't want to be on the government's list. If you got a driver's license and you're walking around here, you're on a list. Yeah, I get the fact that you don't want to give the agent right to come in your house. I get it. But I don't. I know a lot of people that don't. Suppressors, as you can imagine, that's never happened to anybody that I know. As long as you follow the rules with it and don't do anything stupid, you'll be fine. Back to the legislation. The one big, beautiful bill. One thing we got in, that was the reduction of the 200 tax stamp down to zero.

[Justin]

Right.

[Jim Hood]

So now a thousand dollar suppressor will cost you a thousand dollars. It won't cost you 1200 and the wait times are less than a week. I mean we're getting them back in a couple of days. Even with the influx from this year.

[Ian Keller]

That's crazy.

[Justin]

That's approvals, that's approvals that are taken.

[Tyler]

Correct.

[Justin]

Right.

[Jim Hood]

To approval.

[Tyler]

So I go to, let's say I go to elevatedstylence.com I, I. Am I able to place my order and then the process starts or does the process have to start and then I place my order?

[Jim Hood]

I'm going to give you two different scenarios. Being you're in Florida, I can handle all of your paperwork.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jim Hood]

Being you're in Orlando, that'll be a little more difficult for me because you're going to have to come by here and pick it up. Long way to drive. Typically given the other states, you place the order online, we get the order and you will give us the FFL that you want to do business with and we ship that to that ffl. That FFL will help you handle the form for process, which is what you need to apply for the. It's still called a tax stamp. There's just a zero tax to apply for the tax stamp to give you the, the legal right to possess it.

[Tyler]

And ffl, that's usually just a gun supplier. Right. Gun distributor.

[Jim Hood]

Correct. Now the FFL does have to have the special operations tax along with it. That gives them the right to handle Class 3 items. Class 3 items are short railed rifles, machine guns, suppressors.

[Tyler]

Okay,

[Justin]

what a super basic question. Probably, but it's just something that I wondered what's the, what's the, what's the fear of, of a suppressor? You know, that the government feels that, that it needs to be something different than just your, your average Joe walking in and buying a 9 millimeter handgun. Like where's the fear of the suppressor control? Just because they know it's something that people are going to want, it's.

[Ian Keller]

Oh wow.

[Jim Hood]

I don't want to say a cool guy thing, but if you want to be a gentleman. She's pressed right. There's no other way.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Gentlemen. Yeah. James Bond.

[Jim Hood]

Exactly. They want control. There's a lot of people that, that think they kill people. That's not going to kill anybody. Yeah, a hunk of metal. Well yeah, it's a hunk of metal that's welded together or printed, whichever one you're talking about at the time. And they Also think that they're silent. They're not silent now.

[Tyler]

No.

[Jim Hood]

22 on a bolt gun shooting subsonic. That's about as close as you're going to get to hearing nothing. That's a snake fart. It is so cool.

[Tyler]

The.

[Justin]

So, yeah, so it's basically, it just, it runs because it's, it's, it's been in the, in the films and in the movies. It's used, you know, theoretically by, you know, tier one type units and stuff. So, you know, it's, it's seen as a murder weapon, more so than just a general gun, firearm. It's seen as something that is assistive to murder and. Or,

[Jim Hood]

yeah, can we say murder anymore? Isn't it called unalive now, I believe.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, yeah, we can't say that on here.

[Tyler]

You know, it's funny too, like the, the question that Justin just asked about suppressors. I mean, look at the federal fight again and I, I highly doubt any of us do it. But look at cannabis. I mean, look at, I mean, just the conundrum. I can't even wrap my head around how it's like, it's federally like, like a. Is it just one class one drug over heroin and opiates and, and you know, you got states running it recreationally and they can't even use the banking systems because the federal government, I'm assuming, it's got to be a control thing. Like, hey, we have to control this industry and we don't have it under control yet, but, you know, which is

[Ian Keller]

wild because they could make so much money. Federalize it and tax it.

[Tyler]

They would.

[Ian Keller]

And make it legal across the board. They would, they would make, they could make billions of dollars off of that industry.

[Tyler]

They could give us that healthcare we need.

[Jim Hood]

All about the control. They want the control of it.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

There's a lot of the uneducated politicians in the gun world that think you can screw on a silencer. Suppressor is what I call them. And I want to geek out on that in a minute. And you can go in a crowd, you can shoot 50 people and nobody knows where it come from.

[Justin]

Yeah, yeah. Assassins. They're afraid we're all going to become assassins.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

It goes to the point you can't argue with that level of stupid because they're going to bring you down to their level and beat you out of experience. You just gotta walk away from some folks.

[Tyler]

And I mean it. Look at, look at social media. I mean, when we put out a clip of the difference between a suppressor and a silencer the amount of people that were just arguing in the comments. And it was a joke.

[Jim Hood]

I got eviscerated. I normally don't read the comments. I follow Joe Rogan's rules. Like, don't read the comments. Yeah, I had to. And it was a joke, but it's kind of serious because I don't build silencers. Nobody builds a silencer because they don't exist. Yes, that's what the original patent said, and yes, that's what the ATS makes us call them. That's a fact. So it's. It's kind of a play on words. But they're suppressors. They suppress the sound. They don't silence it.

[Tyler]

I mean, that's like if you were born with the name and you're like, guys, I know I was born with a legal name, but I'm not a,

[Justin]

you know, such an analogy to create.

[Jim Hood]

Exactly.

[Justin]

But yeah, so. So back to the. Yeah, I mean, the. The demonization of it of. Of a suppressor slash silencer or whatever, you know, like, that kind of goes to what you guys were talking about with marijuana with, like, William Randolph Hearst, you know, paper companies, like, trying to prove that hemp is not as good as paper. So it's like.

[Tyler]

Because I've tried to find Joe Rogan's spiel on why marijuana was demonized when it was, and it was because they had to pick between the paper company or marijuana. Essentially, that's what it was. And they picked newspaper companies, you know,

[Justin]

can you tell us, William? Because William Random William Randolph Hearst owned the newspapers and the paper companies, so he did not want a superior product, which was hemp, to be utilized, so he created this, like, reefer madness. People, People, you know, oh, smoking marijuana and it causes. Makes you crazy and all this kind of stuff. So it demonized it. Yeah, I learned about that when I was in California touring his house. They even talk about it, the.

[Tyler]

His.

[Justin]

His castle or mansion that he has out there in California off the pch.

[Ian Keller]

They talk about this. And then nobody brings that to the media to say, hey, no.

[Justin]

I mean, it's well known now, but the damage is already done. So same thing, in my opinion, with suppressors, silencers. Someone has created that. And we've done it in video games and stuff. You know, all these. All these video games. It's like, oh, go to the war chest to pick up a silencer, you know, click, you know, and then now you can walk around with night vision through houses and murk, people.

[Jim Hood]

And the silencer was really. That. That was done With Hiram Maximum back in. I think it was 1908, when he. When he started making them. I mean, that's. That's what they were at the point. They were silencers.

[Tyler]

Were they. Were they just as controlled when they first came out, or did it take a minute to. For the Feds to be like, whoa, hold on.

[Jim Hood]

So that came along. The 200 tax stamp came along. I think it was 1934. BE. That was the government's way of controlling what got out there, because you could only have them if you were rich. I think the equivalent to 200 in 1934 to today would be like, a 43,4400 tax stamp. So if suppressors had a 4,400 tax stamp on them nowadays, there wouldn't be very many of them around. It'd be a business. I definitely wouldn't have gotten in.

[Tyler]

Yeah. What. What. And what made you get into suppressors?

[Jim Hood]

So we opened Elevated Silence just as we're gonna be kind of like a distributor, if you will, a retailer for other people. Silencers. I went hunting with my son one time, who was six at the time. No, he was five at the time. And I forgot my first and only can that I had for my rifle. I knew there was a massive point of impact shift. So, I mean, we were hunting. We weren't gonna do any shooting because I didn't know where the.

[Ian Keller]

Where the.

[Jim Hood]

My point of impact was going to be. And then God put an idea in my head about a baffle stack. That's the. I don't have one here. That's the internals of the suppressor itself. And I drilled out on a napkin and got a hold of a buddy that knew an engineer. One thing led to another. He made my prototype. We shot it, and it was perfect. That's what we wanted.

[Ian Keller]

How. How long from the. The napkin drawing to, like, the product being created, how long did that take?

[Jim Hood]

That was about six months.

[Ian Keller]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Really? That's.

[Jim Hood]

Was. That's just because I knew somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody. I use that six degrees of separation. When you think of something like that and you draw it out on a napkin, the anticipation from that point to the. To the time you get that original can in your hand, seems like it takes decades.

[Tyler]

Yeah, There you go.

[Justin]

Baffle stacker.

[Tyler]

Oh, wow. What am I looking at?

[Ian Keller]

The inside of a suppressor.

[Jim Hood]

So all those. All those little chambers in there, that. That's a baffle stack.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jim Hood]

I can almost tell you who those are.

[Ian Keller]

Oh, nice. Because how does it.

[Jim Hood]

Like I own one of all of them, actually.

[Ian Keller]

So how does it work to suppress the noise that's coming out? Does it slowly, like slowly release the gas as it comes through? So that doesn't. So it's not as loud. I've never really understood how compressors actually work.

[Jim Hood]

Yes and no. So when you fire a gun, there's actually two loud noises, but they happen so close together that people just call it one gunshot. You have the primer that ignites the powder, and just as soon as that leaves the barrel that oxygenates creates the explosion that makes. That pushes the bullet, the propellant pushes the bullet. And then you have the bullet breaking the sound barrier. So you actually have two loud noises. What the suppressor does is it takes that initial explosion with a gunpowder and it runs those gases through all those chambers that you see there and moves them around gently and delicately and cools them off before they get expelled through the muzzle.

[Ian Keller]

Ah, that makes sense now. Okay.

[Jim Hood]

Just like the muffler on your car.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's kind of what I was thinking. So, Jim, they. The, the, the calibers of weapons that can have suppressors. I mentioned 50 Cal and Justin was like, what? And is that. That's. That's a fifth. That's a can suppressor for rifles too.

[Jim Hood]

Correct. That's just a lot different because of the pressures. So each caliber has its own case pressure. That case pressure has to,

[Tyler]

I'm going

[Jim Hood]

to call it, be mitigated through the cans. In other words, if you take a 556 baffle stack that works perfect and it's optimized for a 556 AR15. You take that same baffle stack, enlarge the aperture, and put it on a long gun. It's going to sound different than a suppressor specifically engineered for a long gun. That's why you got the 556 cans and the 30 cal cans. And in some of the different aspects, you can even get like a 6 mil can. There's different. You can optimize the camp for each caliber.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And somebody was asking for what, Justin, was it a 450?

[Justin]

It was a 450. Somebody said, you know, because you explain it in your, in your advertisement, you know, 22 to 50 Cal. They were like 450 falls in there. Why don't they make a 450? So here we are asking this question today.

[Jim Hood]

So how many people do you know even own a 450?

[Tyler]

I don't even know.

[Justin]

One guy.

[Tyler]

The one guy in the chat.

[Jim Hood]

Are we talking 450 SOCOM. Are we talking 444 government? Are we talking 4570? There's not enough market out there for me, for me specifically, there's not enough market for me to spend the tne and, and all the, the, the research to make a 450 to make a can specifically. 440.

[Tyler]

So that person's in the chat today.

[Jim Hood]

So in my 45, 70 being we don't have our 45 can done yet, I shoot a competitor's can. We all know each other, we all get along. We give each other crap all the time. But I mean, I own just as many competitor cans as I do my own personal.

[Tyler]

Well, that's how you can kind of, it's, it's proof that you, you're in the love of the game. Like you just love, like it's not just your suppressors. You know, I talk about all the time like, like I know a lot of guys with T shirt companies and we all wear each other's shirts. And the, the biggest thing, the biggest compliment or the biggest gratitude given to me is when another company, when he gives me a hat. I know that we're talking apparel lines. We're not talking six figures. We're talking like, don't ever sell shirts and hats, by the way, ladies and gentlemen, do anything, it is not worth it. But when another guy gives you a hat that says, like, hey man, I want you to have this, even though I know you have your own hats, I want you to wear this. And you're like, man, that's so cool. So, I mean, a little bit, a little bit different industries, but I understand, you know, if you love suppressors, you're going to shoot the best suppressors, not just your own.

[Jim Hood]

Absolutely. Now, do we like to think we make the best pressures? Absolutely. We do. Engineers for what they are 100.

[Ian Keller]

We do.

[Jim Hood]

But I, I know probably 85, 90 of the, the suppressor guys. Well, let me back up. Last year I knew 85 to 90. This year they're, they're popping up everywhere. Everywhere. But we all get along. You know, we trade secrets and that sort of thing because we all do the same thing. We make, we try to make stuff quiet. Yeah, some people figure stuff out that I haven't. I figured stuff that other people have.

[Tyler]

Will you ever, will you ever venture into anything else other than suppressors or do you like sticking with suppressors?

[Jim Hood]

As I'm the kind of guy that I'm never going to truly retire, I can't tell you that in four Five, six, eight, ten years from now, somebody wants to buy elevated, I sell it to them. I'm gonna do something. I don't know what, but I'll do something.

[Tyler]

Don't get any T shirt.

[Jim Hood]

Real estate.

[Tyler]

Real estate?

[Ian Keller]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

There's tons of money in it then. I'm telling you

[Jim Hood]

the best way to make a million dollars in the gun industry is to start with two.

[Tyler]

Two. Yeah, exactly. When you start flipping houses now, I'm asking in, in today's times, you know, it is obvious that a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck. If you were to go in to do something like that, do you have to have capital? Do you have capital in your, in your own self, or do you go out and find capital to start that process and take that risk? Like, how did that work, if you don't mind me asking?

[Jim Hood]

Don't mind a bit. So you got to think about the time frame this happened. I lost my job in January of 2012. The last three years of my banking career I spent in court because my bank was suing the folks that defaulted on the loans that was coming out of the real estate crash that started in August seven. And that took years to clean up. Years to clean up. So when that got cleaned up, there was a lot of inventory on the market that you could buy a distressed home, a foreclosed home that the banks just wanted off their books because it took two, three years to get it foreclosed or what have you. And we were able to get these, these homes. And dude, our first house was,

[Tyler]

I

[Jim Hood]

want to say it was like $75,000. It wasn't, it wasn't an expensive home whatsoever. So we had, we started small.

[Tyler]

You know, I, and I used to. My first ever patrol area was a place called Deltona, Florida. And Deltona was created to be a living area for Orlando, for people to, to leave Orlando. I don't know what industries, but it just. So Deltona, at the time I patrolled, it was like 95 residential, right? It was, there was hardly. With like two plazas, a movie theater towards the end of my, you know, time there. And I was like, why is there so much crime in Deltona? Like, there's just weird heinous murders, no gangs, not a lot of drugs, but just like crazy that happens. And what it was was when the housing crisis hit, you'll have a great road, a great street, a great cul de sac, and then all of a sudden the renters come in and they'll, they'll have, you know, 20 people in one house. Because the houses are large with five bedrooms. And then that creates a place that nobody wants to live next to a house like that. So then the entire area starts to get, like, infected with. I gotta watch my words. But, you know, like, undesirable settings, you know, that. That come with crime. And then I watched that. So I was like, man, that's what Delta. I was like. I would look at these houses. They're so. They're built like they're beautiful houses the way they are. They're all dirty and broken. But I could see that they're really, like, nice houses. And I'm like, how did this happen? And it was that. That housing crisis that they came in

[Ian Keller]

and bought it for a super low price when it. When it should have been like a 200, 000.

[Tyler]

And I guess there's no HOAs in Delta know, because,

[Jim Hood]

oh, man, the housing crisis was. That was. That was a tough time for the entire. For the entire country. The first two states that were in it were Ohio and Florida. And if you remember correctly, the bank that I worked for, of course, based out of Ohio, owned us here in Alabama and Florida.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's. Let me circle back with the 450 question. November chimed in. He was the one that asked that. He's. He was specifically asking if you have anything that will cover the 450 Bushmaster, you know, or anything in your product line that you recommend for it.

[Jim Hood]

Currently, we are going through the process with prototypes on the 45 cam. I am probably halfway through it. So in another six months, we will have a.40 45 can that is specifically engineered to. To the.45 caliber gun. One thing that we're trying to do is you take a.45 ACP, like a 1911 with a threaded barrel. You can, depending on its construction, bleed that over to your 4570 or your.45 bush, your 450 Bushmaster. But we want to make sure that it's going to operate really well on all of those local platforms. Problems given to where the gun entry is going with lever guns. Lever guns are a big thing. I killed a buffalo with my lever gun. Using the competitors can just. In January, it's. It's got to work well on both. We've got to make sure that we've got the. The piston just right for your pistols. We got to make sure that it can handle the pressures of a.45, a 450 Bushmaster or a 458 Socom. We just want to make sure that it's perfect. And until it's perfect, I'm not going to release it.

[Justin]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Good. Well, while I'm at it, I'm gonna read a couple other super chats. Knock him out, jay. Dropped in £10 over from the UK for the boys. Thanks, Jay. Friday. What's that?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I don't really know what 10 pounds it plays to, but thank you.

[Ian Keller]

It's like 12 or 13 bucks. Oh, thank. Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, yeah.

[Justin]

We gotta. We got taxed. We get taxed differently.

[Tyler]

I didn't know you could do an actual like. Like 1776. That's cool.

[Justin]

Oh, Pride Assassin's got it figured out, so. And then he's. He's going off on other tangents. A lot of talk about Soros, das. But Bloomberg mayors are just as bad. Mayors appoint police chiefs and admin sucks the best of times, let alone at hostile plants. The job may be dead. May be dead. But it was murdered. Okay.

[Ian Keller]

With the suppressor.

[Justin]

Sorry if I messed that up for you, Pride. But. Yeah. A new member. Thanks.

[Tyler]

I gotta.

[Ian Keller]

I got a question for you. What does it look like for like your testing process? You said that you. You don't want to release a product unless it is. It's perfect. Which is a testament to your. To your product. But how long does that testing process normally take when you develop a can?

[Jim Hood]

So depending on the caliber, our 556 can took over a year because we wanted to make sure that the pressures were right inside. We wanted to make sure how much heat it could handle over a given period of time. It wasn't like we just welded one together, put it on a AR15 and went mag dumped. But in case the final test we did to see what it would take to kill it. And we had to put it on a 500 round. 249.

[Ian Keller]

Wow.

[Jim Hood]

We wanted to see what it would take. And we know.

[Ian Keller]

Did it kill it in. In one whole thing or did you have to go through a few boxes?

[Jim Hood]

Round belt, lay it on there. Let that dog eat. And at round number 301, it. It separated and came apart like it was supposed to. Where your gun would still function.

[Ian Keller]

Oh wow.

[Jim Hood]

Just wasn't pressed anymore.

[Tyler]

But could. Jim, do you know the origins of gun control in the United States?

[Jim Hood]

Not enough to speak on it. I do not.

[Tyler]

Okay. I don't either.

[Jim Hood]

I would be out of turn if I tried to get into that.

[Tyler]

The. I know there's a lot of it that came with the. With the. Like the Tommy gun and all that people there was all kinds of crazy rules because they were for the, the mafia. But I'm gonna look into it. That would be, that would be interesting to know.

[Jim Hood]

And back in 1934, when they created the NFA, the National Firearms act that controls the, the Class 3 items, if I'm not mistaken, that's the only people that had suppressors right then would be your mafia because of the tommy guns. And they were killing people with silencers.

[Tyler]

People with silencers silence.

[Jim Hood]

Those deadly pesticides.

[Tyler]

All right, we're gonna take a quick commercial break. And I think I definitely don't want to get as we don't do this to our, to, to people that own businesses, we don't get too political, but we do talk about current events. So don't feel obligated to say anything because I know a lot of people are like, man, I don't. They want to give their opinion, but they're like, I'm online, dude. I'm not, I'm not going to get into that. But, but there's a lot of current, especially the military kind of ramping up. They're, they're not saying anything, but they're saying a lot of things without saying things. So we'll get into that and then, you know, anybody that wants to ask Jim a question, just throw it in here and we'll start. So that way we get to it eventually, but we will be right back.

[Jim Hood]

Over a century ago, in 1910, the

[Justin]

Flexner Report, funded by John D. Rockefeller

[Jim Hood]

and the Carnegie foundation, re engineered medical education from a holistic whole body approach which appropriately treated the body as an interconnected system, to a compartmentalized approach. Under the guise of specialized medicine, they shut down or consolidated medical schools, marginalized naturopathic, homeopathic and chiropractic medicine, replacing them with symptom management and synthetic drugs. Allopathy is a marketing strategy rooted in fear and manipulated science. This philosophy can carried into veterinary medicine resulting in over vaccination, unnecessary surgeries and manufactured food just like they did for people.

[Tyler]

They call it care, but it's predatory

[Jim Hood]

and based in profitability. The truth, toxicity, compromised immunity and chronic inflammation. They're not fate, they're engineered. And so is your power to undo them. We built three targeted formulas to return the body to homeostasis for pets and people to detox, defend and restore. We are the correction to decades of corruption. We are vengeance.

[Tyler]

And we're back.

[Justin]

Quick run back and forth.

[Tyler]

I had to heat up my coffee. Dude, my coffee never.

[Ian Keller]

How do you not finish that?

[Tyler]

I'M I'm savoring it.

[Justin]

You know, we gotta, we gotta get you Tyler. This mug that my lieutenant used to have. That's. It's a tech mug and it, and it's a self heating mug so it just, it can just stay hot.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that gator bait brought me a coffee heater that's right here. But I, I drink out of the to go cups so I don't think I can really heat it

[Justin]

or just transfer.

[Tyler]

I don't have a seat to wash it. The, the one that we have bathroom sinks, but I don't have a kitchen sink here, so I can't really. Yeah, I'm giving a lot of excuses.

[Ian Keller]

Just wash it in the bathroom sink.

[Justin]

You don't want to go to those bathroom sinks?

[Tyler]

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[Justin]

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[Tyler]

But yeah. So Jim, what's it like, work? Do you have any contracts or do you do any work with the DoD or is that just not something that.

[Jim Hood]

I spent a lot of time out of town talking to a lot of different people and we are doing a lot of good stuff.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I like it. That answer right there tells me, tells me something. I just know the bureaucracy of the government. I don't know if I have the patience for that.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, there's a, there's a need out there that we're able to fulfill through for a bunch of people and it's, it's fun.

[Tyler]

The. And I noticed one thing as I was leaving law enforcement that swat, lots and lots and lots of SWAT teams are starting to utilize suppressors for really. Essentially, I think it's more for health reasons, you know, and then as I was leaving the agency that I was at, it's a very large agency, they were talking about equipping patrol with them at some point. So have you seen. Can you speak on law enforcement in general, seeing the benefits of using suppressors? Lots of our followers are cops, and we talk, and then lots of our followers are not police. And they're actually constitutionalists. And they're actually very. What would you call that? They're very hesitant of government having all of the things that they say we can't have.

[Jim Hood]

I deal with a lot of local law enforcement.

[Tyler]

There are.

[Jim Hood]

Let me use this one example. Like school resource deputies, SRDs, or SRO resource officers. If they have an engagement, it's going to be in a hallway. More than likely, it's going to be in a hallway or in a closed room. If you've ever fired an unsuppressed 556 in a closed room, you need hearing aids.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Ian Keller]

It's so loud.

[Jim Hood]

Your hearing is absolutely destroyed. Now. A lot of people think that, well, it's only going to happen a couple times. Well, it only takes one shot for your hearing to be seriously degraded. That's it.

[Ian Keller]

I can, I can attest to that.

[Jim Hood]

There's a lot of. A lot of agencies either changing out some old stuff they have due to technology because we've gotten better, of course. Or there you go. Or signature. The signature of the shot. If you are engaging someone and they're not suppressed, and you are. Your brothers know. Your brothers and sisters know that. Okay, who's shooting? That's not our guys. Or if our guys are shooting, they know which one that is. So there's a lot of signature benefits as well.

[Justin]

That was. That was pictures of, like you were saying, Florida Atlantic University. I recently saw that just the other day. And I was like, whoa, look at that. Looks like patrol officers for the university are rocking suppressors on those rifles. And. And they're. And they're using them in training. So just as you were saying that, I was like, oh, God. To pull that up, because it's exactly what you're saying. And I was a school resource officer myself. And yeah, I mean, you're going to be shooting in hallways and if need be, and you want to be able to knock that out and at least preserve a little bit of your thought process from the ringing of a shot.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, suppressors are a lot Cheaper than hearing aids.

[Tyler]

They look way cooler. Yeah. So, I mean, in. In all of my career working for the government, I was never special operations, but I, you know, and I will say for the infantry, in the military, even during wartime, you do not go to the range very often. It is not as much as you think at all. And as law enforcement, you don't go to the range. Mandatory. Like you would think. So, really, I spent most of the time. Most of my time on a gun line when I was with swat. You. When you're with swat, you shoot a lot. And I'm telling you, when we switched suppressors, it was just so much better. When you're on the range like that, you got 30 guys on the line shooting at the exact same time. You know, you. You know, you don't have to worry. The only thing you got to worry about is your buddy's brass going down the back of your shirt. That's it. You don't have to worry about hearing anymore. And I. We've all done it in the military, man. You in the military or in law enforcement, right? That everybody's got to go shoot. Like, everybody on the line. And you just left your ear protection about 50 yards back, and you're like, huh? I'm not gonna be the guy. Hold on. Because they would want you to do that. They're going to probably punish you or give you. But. And I just remember, sometimes you're just like it. And the first shot, you can't hear anything.

[Jim Hood]

I'm like.

[Tyler]

I look back at what Jim just said. I'm like, how many times did I permanently damage my hearing by doing that?

[Ian Keller]

That's literally what happened to me.

[Tyler]

If.

[Jim Hood]

If y' all don't. If it's real quiet for just a second, you'll hear a raining in your ears.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Hood]

It's constant. If you spend any amount of time on the range, it's going to be there. And once it's gone, brother, it's gone. You don't get it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. That's why the military is not. They. When you get out and you try to claim hearing, they are not. A hearing loss is one of the hardest things to get rated for during separation. Military, because they're kind of like that same thing. They're like, well, you. How many times you go to the range? We gave you ear protection. Like, unless you can trace it back. The way I was told is if you can trace it back to one specific time, like one explosion that rocked your hearing, and you can go to that day on this mission. And this is when it happened. That's when you can probably get rated, but just general, like, oh, I spent six years in the military. My hearing sucks. They're like, yep, that's everybody. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Justin]

I mean, my mind's messed up from police work and having the radio on the one side of your shoulder and just, just squawking in my ear in loud environments and just. And just pushing it through. So.

[Jim Hood]

Yep. And look at the patrolman. The patrolmen aren't. Aren't rocking the. The headgear with the peltors that are plugged into the comms.

[Tyler]

They're just not. Then that's very true. You can't have Bellator on your head when you responded to Ms. Susie's house. Yeah, I mean, we've been seeing a lot was talk about the Met, the military, they're. And you know, we have a lot of correspondence on the show that are way smarter at this than I am. But the CC did text me last night. They. The. The military has upped their, their age limit from 37 to 50, I think. Oh, have you guys seen that?

[Ian Keller]

That sounds like a draft coming.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they've upped it. And everybody's been, you know, I was in the 82nd, but everybody's saying that the 82nd Airborne has been spun up and it's like, we're not going to war, but we're getting. We're getting ready for war, preparing for war.

[Ian Keller]

Oh, yeah, I think it's gonna happen.

[Justin]

This morning I, this morning I had heard that it was 15, 82nd were. Were brought up or are preparing. So it doesn't sound like very much,

[Tyler]

but I wouldn't know what are they preparing for? That's enough to take a drop zone.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Well, and I mean, they're. They're talking about that drop zone being the island that. That island where the percent of the oil comes from or is dispatched out of.

[Tyler]

Well, you understand, Jim, you understand the economy enough to talk about it, I would imagine. What is this? Do you think oil is the reason why we have so much conflict in Iran right now? What do you think?

[Jim Hood]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you a couple of different of my personal viewpoints. Oil is big. I mean, crude is in everything we have. It's in our clothes, it's in our. It's everywhere. There's no way to get away from it. Flip side to that. Those guys have been fighting with for 3,000 years. Yeah, 4,000 years. We're gonna change it.

[Tyler]

No, come on man, that's a good point. I don't think anybody in our government's like, I think it's finally time we bring peace to the Middle east.

[Ian Keller]

Says every other country.

[Jim Hood]

It's easy for me to say, yes, I think we should go in there and bomb them. I think we should take all the oil. I think that they, they don't need nuclear weapons. It's easy for me to say that I'm not sending my family in so that that's my holdback or reservation and giving, excuse me. And giving my full opinion on that because, dude, I'm armchair quarterback.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

I don't have a, I don't feel like I have the right to say yes, we should do that or no, we shouldn't. Yes, I'm American, we all have our opinions and we got the First Amendment, but I'm not sending my kids into battle.

[Tyler]

Yes, and that's a, that's such a good point. When people are like, you know, they, that's hard because they say, would you send your kid. Well, hold on a minute. You know, well, hold on a minute, you know, and, and, and I, I as a father, you know, I have a 13 year old and a 7 year old that, you know, our 20 year olds, he's, he's not military, is not going to be his thing. But you know, the little kids are always asking about the military and stuff. What do I do when my, you know, I was my 13 year old's age right now, I was 13 when we, when we bombed Iraq in 2003. So wow. I know that feeling of like, oh, I want to be patriotic, I want to impress my dad. Like I want, this is what I know, you know, military men are, you know, and it's like, what do I tell my son? You know, hey, now that I'm almost 40, I know how the world works and we haven't fought a legitimate war in a very, very long time, son. So, you know, or do you let him.

[Jim Hood]

I've got a 15 year old son. He has, he's been able to meet a lot of the guys that I know and as you can imagine, I know a ton of guys that did all the cool stuff. A ton of them. They're awesome dudes. And it really wasn't until I got in this business, what, 12 years, 10, 10 years ago that I had a good grasp on exactly what these guys do and the sacrifices that they make. And the only reason that I'm able to sit here and make these little cool things and we consider on the podcast and, and talk about it is because the guys on the front line protecting us for our right to do that. Yep. I say that, to say this, he has an aspiration to go in the military. Selfishly as a dad. Do I want that? Probably not. But if that's what he wants to do, I'm going to support him because I know he wants to make a difference. And if I, it's gonna be hard for me to say if I were making the decision to send him to war, that's not one I want to make. But if that's what he wanted to do, I would support him in that decision.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

Because if he keeps going down this road he's in, I'm, I'm going to have to do that. That's what he wants to do. Same with my 13 year old daughter. If, if she has those type of aspirations and she wants to go work for the agency overseas, covert work or whatever, I'm going to support her in doing that because that's what she wants to do.

[Tyler]

Yeah, and it's hard man, because you know, a 911 or a Pearl harbor make it, it alleviates all of that, you know, pressure to, to want to tell them, you know, oh well, maybe you shouldn't or try to talk them out of it. When there's that patriotic like momentum in the country, it's like everybody's like we're doing the right thing. And then after 20 years of war and it's funny, a lot of the guys that you know, that you've introduced us to or that we all know, a large majority of them wouldn't not do what they did, but they would do it a lot different as far as far as the dedication that they gave because it requires so much. Like I would, I would think tier two and up, maybe even tier three requires a little bit more personal sacrifice than just showing up, you know, to the range and doing your, your contract. You know, like most military, you got to go through your training to fail out of military technical training, man, you'd have to be an idiot. You know, you don't do anything else. That's all you do all day for eight weeks. You know, you learn your job and then through promote the promotional processes where it kind of intrigues you to learn more and become an expert in that area or you can just reclass and do something else. And to, to do those top tier units I think requires just a level of dedication that you can't put anything but that first. And I mean I've heard a Lot of the guys say I was putting it before God. That's how much I wanted. That's how much I devoted my life to. It is. It was number one before anybody. And it's great, you know, And I don't think, like I said, I don't think that they would say, I, I'm not, I wouldn't do that job. But they go back and it, but it's the tale as old as time. You're now 40, 50 years old. You go, man, I would have, I would have done that way differently.

[Jim Hood]

A lot of the guys that I know, they, the, the difference that they would have made is how they spent their time back home and they would have learned to integrate, reintegrate themselves into regular society and then reintegrate themselves into a war. But that, that comes with age.

[Ian Keller]

Which.

[Jim Hood]

Age comes wisdom for some, and you don't know that until you get older. So a lot of the regrets that, that my buddies have is the, the fact. Did they regret spending a lot of time overseas? Yeah, but that was part of the job. But they would just integrated differently. They would have gotten help sooner, they would have done. I began sooner or whatever, whatever that looks like.

[Tyler]

And I see it a lot with police officers, not just, not particularly first responders, but I see that same issue in our law enforcement today, because what it is, is the constant. When you're in a, when you're in a tier two unit, maybe even tier three, like rangers, you know, you're always going over there. You're always going over there, but you come home a lot, but you're, you're going back over there. So when you come home, you know, it's only a matter of time before you're going back over there. So it's a constant, like, I can't get out of this mindset. I can't go home and get comfy. I can't go home and just fall into the grace of my family and help myself and, and be vulnerable. Like, vulnerability is a big thing. Like, to yourself. Like, I, I'm in a warrior mindset all day long. When I go to the grocery store, I want to get in there and get out. I, I'm not taking from anybody. I'm getting my groceries right. And.

[Jim Hood]

Right.

[Tyler]

So. And I see that law enforcement, they're done with their shift and they, and let's say they're done with their tour and they have two or three days off. A lot of guys are having trouble turning it off. And when they're at the end of their career, they go, I would have given up all the promotions, all the special assignments to go back to being a better father, to be in there for my, my, during my kids games, you know, maybe being a better husband. And so I see all the, and then, and of course law enforcement takes a lot of training from those Tier 2 and Tier 1 units because of the, the tactical, the tactical stuff. And they look up to them and we've covered that a lot. That law enforcement does look up to soft people because of the dedication to the, you know, that ability right there. They're like, man, these guys can do that and have a family. I should be able to do this. And, and I, I feel like, you know, that it's like you said, Jim, that there's really no fixing that. It's just wisdom and age and maturity.

[Jim Hood]

Yep. And with that wisdom, there's a lot of the physical stuff that you were like, there's no way I'm going to do that. When you're young, yeah, I'll do it. I don't care.

[Tyler]

Well, I mean look, look at professional athletes, look at football players. Very rarely do you see a football player call it after year four for his own health. It happens. I've seen it. But very rarely does a football player go, I'm ending my career for the longevity of my life. They will push it because they have the same mindset. I've worked to get here for 20 years I've been trying to get here and now I'm here, I'm not gonna quit. And you know, and they, people go and look back now and they're like, man, I was an idiot.

[Jim Hood]

They say money can't buy help in it. Help happiness. They can't buy health either.

[Tyler]

No, no.

[Ian Keller]

Well, I think you said it well, Tyler and like probably like a month ago you were talking about your son.

[Tyler]

And I say, everything will.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah. No, so like you were talking about how, how are you going to tell your son, like, you know, like pro football might not be for you, you know? You know, and you said that those people go to bed thinking about that. The same thing with your high level tier one units.

[Tyler]

They do that.

[Jim Hood]

That's what they do.

[Ian Keller]

They go, that's the only thing that they're thinking about. And I feel like that happens in cop world too. Like you, the stakes are the highest in cop and military world. It's your life, it's your, your partner's life. So you're on this high level of stress, 12 hours a day, whatever your shift is, and then you come, you Got to come home and act like that doesn't affect you and how your, like, emotions were throughout the day. That's hard, man.

[Tyler]

They tried teaching you that stuff in the academy. I'll give it to them. They do try. They try to tell you, turn it off, go fishing.

[Ian Keller]

It's not possible.

[Tyler]

Do something outside of this job because it'll eat you alive. And there's just no telling, like a young go getter cop that they're like, no, I'm gonna leave. Live, eat, sleep, breathe this stuff into it eats me alive. And then it starts becoming a detriment to my health.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, it's cortisol levels, man.

[Justin]

Yeah. No, it's. And that's important. And that's what I've always told people and I told new guys, is find outlets, find ways to, you know, separate yourself from it when you're off to get your head out of the game. Which is probably why my head wasn't always in the game when I was on the job, because I was. I was. My head was more on the outside of the game. But, you know, you. You gotta. You gotta find a good balance. Tyler, you got. You got jaw fired up in the chat by going, rangers,

[Tyler]

Rangers, not tier three. I thought they were.

[Ian Keller]

I don't think there is a Tears.

[Justin]

You basically call them.

[Tyler]

I make that up. I'm sorry. They're special operations, but they're not Tier two. Are they Tier two? Maybe they are tier two. Maybe they changed it.

[Ian Keller]

They fall under soft. But they're.

[Tyler]

Somebody asked me what the Coast Guard is, I'm like, that's changed like four times since I've been in the military. I don't know even know what they fall under anymore.

[Ian Keller]

Oh, man.

[Tyler]

Oh, they got the Marines versus the Rangers.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah. Someone said that a Ranger is an average Marine. And I was like, oh, here it comes. Before we went for a break, or maybe when we first came back from the break, someone did ask about suppressors and how they affect accuracy. And I can't remember exactly what it was. It was accuracy and something else. It might have been velocity. But can you speak to any of that on how it affects the. Like for the projectile coming out of the.

[Jim Hood]

Out of the rifle, your point of impact? Yeah, sure. So when you're sticking something on the end of your barrel, whatever you, whatever you put on there is going to have an influence on that bullet and on that point of impact shift. There's ways to mitigate it, and we've mitigated it the best we can, but it is going to affect that bullet. 100.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Jim Hood]

With our new or 3D printed 30 cal cans. Now there's about 3/4 of an inch difference between suppressed and unsuppressed. It is repeatable. So you don't do like I did and leave your can at home and go hunting. Now you can still shoot three quarters of an inch. Doesn't make a big difference when you're shooting deer, pigs, what have you. Yeah, but as long as you know where that is and that's what I would suggest to people, know where your rifle is unsuppressed, screw your suppressor on. And if you're going to shoot primarily suppressed, which I'm pretty sure you would zero your gun with your suppressor. Just know where that cold bore shot is without your can in case you have to take that shot.

[Justin]

Good advice, man.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, I think it was from Mark Freed that question. I wanted to remember it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I know in the video games when you add a suppressor on your rifle, your accuracy goes down. Telling you, I didn't realize. I never had. I mean what's SWAT was the first time I ever had shot a suppressor in my life. And then I'd shot the clocks works or something like that. And then, and mine blew up like. And then they, they blamed me for it. I'm like, I don't know how that's my fault. But it blew off the gun and then it happened to somebody else and they were like. And then the second, the only other suppressor I ever shot was the elevated silence suppressors. Since then.

[Jim Hood]

So now suppressors will improve your accuracy. It improves your accuracy for two main reasons. Number one, you don't have that full recoil because it does take about 30 to 40% of the recoil out of whatever you're shooting as well as it does away with that initial loud bang. So there's no flinch. There's no any of that. Now tier one guys, tier two guys, they don't have a flinch because they shoot all the time. But for your, your common shooter, it takes that out of it. So you've got go a better target reacquisition. You're not anticipating the shot, you're not pulling it. So it does make you a more accurate shooter for sure.

[Tyler]

I didn't, I'd never, never thought about that. I thought you were going to hit us with a joke. It does improve reaction. Here's why. No joke.

[Ian Keller]

No, that makes sense though. That does make sense.

[Justin]

It makes you look cooler.

[Tyler]

I'm googling.

[Jim Hood]

If you look at the first two rules of operating.

[Tyler]

Yep. You gotta look cool. I'm a. I'm a huge believer in that. And that's. That's a joke. But in all reality, for your confidence, if. Yeah, yeah, you look like a bag of. You're not going to be very confident what you do. If you look good at what you do, that means you've been doing enough to now kind of focus on how you look doing it. And to me, that says a lot about what you're doing.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, right.

[Tyler]

Tier three military.

[Justin]

Oh yeah. I tried googling it and it talked about the volunteers.

[Tyler]

White elements comprised of u. S. Armed forces. Large scale conventional war fighting forces. Regular army, navy, marine Corps, Air Force. 82nd 104. Oh, Marine Recon. See, they're throwing marine recon in there. But I thought that was soft.

[Ian Keller]

No, recon is actually not at all. Saw they do what we would. What you would consider soft stuff.

[Tyler]

Wait, what's. So what's.

[Ian Keller]

It's. It's only a marine corps element. They do not serve

[Jim Hood]

like.

[Tyler]

Oh, the raiders were soft.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, those guys are. Yeah, those.

[Tyler]

I.

[Ian Keller]

They're not under jsoc, but they're under.

[Tyler]

Oh, one of.

[Ian Keller]

They are a special operations force. Yeah, but yeah, no, marine recon technically is not soft.

[Tyler]

They're. Okay, they all.

[Ian Keller]

They serve the marine like the mag. Taft. I think peach definitely could speak on that. But. But yeah, that they. They go after marine targets and obviously their intel can get given to other soft units.

[Tyler]

But marines have to be different in everything they do.

[Jim Hood]

The marines do have marsop. That is their. If I remember correctly, that's their special operations community.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. And they have their own special operations community. Right?

[Ian Keller]

Yeah. Well, every unit, every, everybody, every branch has.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but you said they don't fall

[Ian Keller]

under jsoc, so jstock is your tier one units. That's going to be your debt. Your delta, your. Even the rangers have a tier one element in their. Their ranger reconnaissance.

[Tyler]

How do you know all this? Are you a spy?

[Ian Keller]

No, I wanted to be in the military and wanted to be a soft guy, but my eyesight wouldn't let me. So I did research on a bunch of stuff.

[Jim Hood]

But.

[Tyler]

What's wrong? You have. Oh, what's wrong with your eyesight?

[Ian Keller]

Do you see these bottles?

[Justin]

Look at those. Glare from the camera, bro.

[Jim Hood]

No, man.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, dude, I. I have like an astigmatism and then I'm.

[Tyler]

Wait, look into that camera.

[Ian Keller]

Wait, what about this one?

[Tyler]

I thought we're looking at this one. Yeah, I said looking at that camera.

[Ian Keller]

Oh, well, you're pointing it now even know point it.

[Justin]

Look, you're pointing straight. Well, he's Asian when he looks in this camera.

[Ian Keller]

It's my lazy eye, you know, it goes this way. But no. Yeah, I wanted to join the, the military and I. They wouldn't let me for my eyesight, which sucks because I put off like joining the military right out of high school because my mom wanted me to go to college. I'll go do the college thing just to appease her. And then I finished my degree and went to go join. And they're like, sorry, man, good luck, man.

[Tyler]

They were like, son, we don't have prescription strong.

[Ian Keller]

So I had to, I had to go with the law enforcement route. So that's. That put me towards. I was a probation officer for a little bit and then I did some time in the border patrol for three. Three years. And then I was like, ah, the border patrol thing was cool. Gotta peek behind that corner but. Or that, that curtain. But decided to go back into the healthcare.

[Tyler]

So you work in healthcare now?

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, yeah, I work in a. As a, as a nurse. I was about to say nurse, bro.

[Tyler]

Are you a male nurse?

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, I'm a male nurse. Yeah. I work in the. Oh yeah, the CTICU and at Duke University Hospital.

[Tyler]

Oh, wow.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah, yeah. So patients having heart surgery come to me, bro.

[Tyler]

I think Border patrol would be cool to work now. I don't think five years ago Border patrol would have been very fun.

[Ian Keller]

Five years ago you, you got like, when you came in, you got the stories from 2000, like 9 and 10, and they're like, that was the best year. That's where we were going out and smacking tonks in the back of the head and stuff like that. And I was like, dang, you guys are crazy.

[Tyler]

What?

[Ian Keller]

So they have this saying.

[Tyler]

It's called it, not me.

[Ian Keller]

They have this thing, they have this saying, it's called a tonk. And that's what we call like illegal aliens.

[Tyler]

Mexicans say that word?

[Ian Keller]

We say it, they say it. I don't think it's.

[Justin]

Well, everybody loves Border patrol and ICE right now, so.

[Ian Keller]

But yes.

[Jim Hood]

I didn't know we had borders in our last administration.

[Ian Keller]

We really didn't. But yeah, so we, they would, they would hide in like the brush and as the, the illegal aliens would walk out. This is at night, they, the agents would like jump out into the, from the brush and like hit them on the back of the head with their flashlight, the big D cell flashlights. And it would make like a punk sound. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Ian Keller]

So that's why they call them dogs.

[Justin]

Aquapon backs that up.

[Ian Keller]

Yep, exactly. It's just like, okay, hold on. I'm gonna use a. What would be considered a derogatory term, like wetback. That's not. That's not a real derogatory term. That's like a term that has become derogatory. But that was the way Border Patrol used. Like, they would figure out, oh, that guy's probably illegal because his back is wet from swimming over the Rio Grande. Changing clothes real quickly, and his back is wet. So when they're integrating into society, into the city, they're like, everyone else is not wet. You're wet. And they would go like, have an immigration conf. Or an immigration inspection and be like, oh, you're illegal. So it's not as derogatory as you think it is. Sorry, guys. YouTube, if it ends up getting kicked down, sorry, but that's a little backstory.

[Tyler]

Well, we'll get off the topics of derogatory.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah,

[Tyler]

move on the. But ICE seems to be. I remember when ICE, in 2000, it was Trump's first term. I don't know, ICE was hiring like crazy, but it was all deportation officers. It was. It wasn't a federal. You weren't a federal agent when they were hiring. And I remember seeing it going, there's going to be a lot of cops that leave cop work to go do this, and then they're all going to get laid off. And that's what happened when Biden came in. And now ICE is the place to go back to. Yeah, you see all these cops leaving their jobs, but you got, like, longevity. Like, so many law enforcement officers are unhappy with the climate that we're in right now, where their hands are tied. We can't do anything. They're getting jammed up and. And ICE is out there just belly to back, suplexing people in the middle of the street, shooting whoever they want. And there's no. And I'm not saying that's a good thing, but I'm saying that they're not only is it, like, fair, it's actually leaning towards them where they have. When I say they don't have accountability, I don't mean that like a liberal. I'm saying that their accountability is the federal government.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They say, you're good, you're good. There's no state official, there's no governor, there's no mayor, there's no nobody that's going to be able to incarcerate you. So I see a lot of people jumping ship to Go work for ice. But you know, as the, when the pendulum swings back and we have a left leaning president, I don't think ICE is going to stay around very long.

[Ian Keller]

I think it depends on where you want to go too. Like within the Department of Homeland Security, like they have like, if you're looking to go into like investigative work like hsi, that's a great gig to have. And they do a lot of awesome, awesome work. A lot of like sex trafficking and stuff gets found out by hsi.

[Tyler]

Yeah, well, I mean look at everybody uses the stepping stone, the TSA thing.

[Jim Hood]

Right?

[Tyler]

Tsa. I remember I was like getting, I'm like, why are you going to work for tsa? They're like, I have to. I'm like waiting on a background check for Secret Service. So I'm just going to work for the TSA for a year until they hire me. And I'm like, oh, that makes sense. Because I don't know anybody that's ever aspired to work for tsa.

[Ian Keller]

I also feel like changing jobs is not going to help your background process any. Well faster.

[Tyler]

Well, when you're in the federal system it makes everything a lot easier. Yeah. So. But now they're not, you know, I'm assuming you knew this gym, but they're, they haven't paid home and security hsi, the entire Department of Homeland Security is not getting paid by the federal government. So TSA quit showing up to work.

[Jim Hood]

And do you blame.

[Tyler]

No, because they're not. We were talking about this last episode. Law enforcement and military. There's an obligation the military. You try not coming into work because they, they did a, they did a freeze on our pay for a couple weeks when I was in and they were like, yeah, you're still coming to work. That's not even a thing. Guys in law enforcement is. It's. You can't go on strike or not show up even. And a lot of state statutes have made it criminal that if you have a badge and you go on strike, you can be charged criminally. So law sworn law enforcement, they don't have the option to not. But TSA is not sworn, so.

[Jim Hood]

Right.

[Tyler]

Why would they show up to work?

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, good segue into something. I had a phone call yesterday with some guys that have a 202 area code. And being that a lot of DHS has not been funded, there are a lot of local law enforcement agencies. I don't want to say doing their job, but doing a large portion of their job. 18% of the illegals that have been detained this year mostly were from local law enforcement. So there is a, a program that I'm happy to help any sheriff or police chief with that you can get government funding with no strings attached based on what I know.

[Tyler]

Do they, do they just reach out to you to be pointed in the right direction?

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Jim Hood]

If they want to get, get a hold of you guys, you're welcome to give them my, my office number. And I am happy to set up a call to do what have you.

[Ian Keller]

You know, what I'm interested in is all those TSA agents that are like, not working, like, they decided, all right, I'm not getting paid, I'm not working. So when I was in the border patrol, we had the same thing. When the government shut down, like, we weren't getting paid. And I think it only lasted maybe two weeks max, a month. So you might have one paycheck, but even though you, if you came to work, like they were going to back pay you, it's not like you weren't going to get paid.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Keller]

So I mean, like, I, well, look

[Jim Hood]

at the residual effects of that, though. So they're, they're more than likely have less than two weeks of savings. Yeah. They could probably go two to three weeks without getting paid. Past that, your bills are going to be late, then your credit's going to be hindered, and then you can't buy a house because you got late payments. There's a, there's a whole, there's a whole cascading effect.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Hood]

About not paying people that live paycheck to paycheck money back. Sure.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Military gets like Navy, Federal Credit Union, USAA. When it happened to me in 2010, I mean, they were all over it. They were like, hey, we'll, we'll give you free interest, no interest loans until we get through this. But yeah, tsa, local law enforcement. I mean, I don't. Not local, I shouldn't say local law. That probably never happened, but you know, federal law enforcement, tsa. Yeah, you're right. Like, yeah, Just because they'll get their money back doesn't mean that they're not going to suffer, you know, consequences like they are right now.

[Jim Hood]

Absolutely.

[Justin]

Yeah. I have a buddy that's a TSA agent. He's been for a long time. And it's mostly because his, he has a family lineage, age that actually works for it. And, but he's got a side hustle, a side business that he makes like challenge coins and stuff. And so he's, he's pushing that hard on that Side because he knows like they, they keep pulling funding for these, especially in turbulent political times. They're. They're fighting over this stuff. Like, you getting me. Am I sounding like an alien again?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ian Keller]

I wonder. I wonder if it sounds like that on the chat though, or if it only sounds like that for us.

[Tyler]

Let's ask, does Justin sound like an alien?

[Ian Keller]

Does he sound like.

[Justin]

Do I sound like an alien?

[Tyler]

No.

[Jim Hood]

I could understand you, Justin, but I heard what sounded like a phone on vibrate, maybe on a desk.

[Tyler]

Give me 10 seconds, I'll fix this issue.

[Jim Hood]

Your buddy's name and number?

[Justin]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Oh, he makes. He makes great stuff. He makes all kinds of swag, racing shirt type stuff and challenge coins and everything like that. So he, He's a good guy. But yeah, I'll hit you up. So the. The chat says it sounds like me, but that's also. We're not really sure I could normally sound like an alien, so. But we were. We were getting weird. Reverb the microphone that I was using. So that's why I'm on AirPods today or this after, you know, for. During this. Because it was sounding weird. Hopefully. Do it, Tyler.

[Jim Hood]

Thanks.

[Tyler]

Yeah, my fault.

[Justin]

We'll get it all fixed tomorrow when I'm in studio.

[Tyler]

Oh, there.

[Justin]

You rip the whole thing down. Oh, thanks for remembering.

[Tyler]

I remember. I live every day, day by day. Ask Jim. I texted him yesterday evening. Oh, by the way, Jim, are we good? Usually I try to give people a week notice. Like, hey,

[Justin]

Yeah, like you hit me up at 8 o' clock at night Monday to say, hey, can you come on Tuesday?

[Jim Hood]

That's plenty of notice. You just got to get some sleep.

[Justin]

He just knows I'm retired, so he thinks that I just sit here at the desk the whole time.

[Tyler]

That's what you do.

[Justin]

What are you doing?

[Tyler]

He's like, I'm sitting at the computer cooking. That's the other one.

[Justin]

Editing cooking. I gotta go watch Punisher though. The new Punisher series came out.

[Tyler]

So it already. It's already out. What?

[Justin]

Yeah, I don't know if they're doing. I don't know if they're doing like week to week releases, but the Punisher show is on. That keeps us in theme with guns, right? Punisher.

[Tyler]

There you go.

[Ian Keller]

Is it a new season or is it a whole new show?

[Justin]

No, it's a season two of the. The. The what? What's the new. The new version of Punisher.

[Tyler]

No, but there's already been two Punisher.

[Justin]

I'm sorry, not Punisher I'm talking Daredevil. I'm talking about Daredevil just came out.

[Ian Keller]

You had me so excited because I love.

[Tyler]

John Berthal just posted that the Punisher's back for final season. So that's why I was like, damn, it's already on Netflix. But

[Justin]

yeah, no, but I mean, I think he's in. He's probably in the Daredevil season. Born Again is what it's called.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna have to Google it. Dude.

[Jim Hood]

I'm gonna write it down.

[Ian Keller]

Efren.

[Tyler]

I've got more.

[Ian Keller]

Don't you worry.

[Tyler]

So are we gonna have to change. Are we gonna have to change the. The quote when we go on to news entertainment for veterans, first responders, blue collar Americans and male nurses?

[Ian Keller]

You know, I'd really like to hope that we could just keep it in the first responder realm, you know, because we can sit ourselves. First responders. You know, you ever. You ever walk up, get that discount, that first responder discount? We take that too.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Ian Keller]

But no, you want to add male nurses. That would be a very. That would help get some people in. Yeah, I think there's a lot of.

[Tyler]

It's kind of like how Jim's like, I'm not going to worry about the 450 because there's just not enough of them.

[Jim Hood]

I don't think there's enough.

[Tyler]

Yes, it says John Bernthal returns with Frank Castle and the Punisher. One last kill. A Marvel television special presentation releasing on Disney May 12, 2026. Which is different because the Punisher that he was. Was on was a Netflix series.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Owned by Netflix.

[Ian Keller]

And that was. That was gory.

[Tyler]

That was awesome.

[Justin]

I love it.

[Tyler]

Following his appearance in Daredevil, Born Again. This special is expected to be lengthy, intense and dark storyline that acts as a bridge towards Spider Man. Brand new day. We're getting a little too nerdy for me. I'm not watching either one of those. I just want to watch the Punisher

[Jim Hood]

nurses are first responders too.

[Ian Keller]

We are. Don't you worry.

[Tyler]

Well, have you. Jim, what's your take as a. As a. I don't want to say an outsider, but kind of like an outsiders. Do you feel that dispatchers are first responders?

[Jim Hood]

Oh, hadn't thought about that.

[Tyler]

So I'll give you a little bit of what my thought process is, is that although they are not responding through physically, they do not. They're having to fight and lobby in different states to get the same help for PTSD that first responders get. And I've never really heard a Dispatcher say, I believe I'm a first responder. But in order to get a lot of the benefits that are needed, they have to fall under the first responder. So they are. So a lot of states are making them first responders in order to get them the help they need. Because I know like dispatchers hear some awful, awful, awful, awful things.

[Jim Hood]

And then I think my first reaction would be, yeah, they should be considered because they have their own different, if I can call it a sector, a sector of ptsd. They're your, again, I'm going to call it isr. They're your isr. They're your, they're your, your navigators. They're telling who's. Telling everybody who's going where and what's going on. Yeah, and if, if something goes south with some wrong information that they happen to broadcast, then that, that, sure, that would weigh on them.

[Justin]

So, yeah, and, and they, and, and I've interviewed dispatcher before that had ptsd. And then you talk about that kind of thing with. They're like, I compare it to being almost in a submarine where it's like you can't really get out and, and affect what's going on. What your people that you've built relationships on or with over the air, you know, their voice. Like, I've talked about some of my old dispatchers that knew what we were doing because of how we talked and they could hear it in the voice that was on that radio. They knew, like, even if we said we are all right, they knew I'm still sending somebody over there because they know that there's panic in the voice that's usually calm or that kind of thing. And, and then the 911 operators where they're picking up people on the worst day of their life and they're trying to command that scene over the phone and tell them how to do CPR on a child or a family member loved one that that is, you know, potentially dying and dealing with that. So, yeah, I mean, I give, I always give them all that kind of credit.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, I would for sure.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Justin]

I mean, Mark's. Mark. Mark says in the chat, some dispatchers, I mean, I know in South Florida, they're all, I mean it's computer aided dispatch a lot of times or computer aided first aid where they basically have to have to like, check off. You know, I told them to do this. I told them to do this. I told them to do this. And I know I've been on the other side of 911 calling in because I Wasn't on duty. And I'm trying to tell them, the dis, the 911 operator, everything we're doing. And I'm checking off the roof a list, and they're, like, asking me these same questions, and it's like, yo, get off the programming. Get off the programming.

[Tyler]

Oh, look at that. Nick finally subscribed and became a member on YouTube. Check out my color. It's green. It's green. We see it, Nick. But, yeah, we covered with Jim. We covered a Boston police officer that was in a shooting. So you. I mean, you're tracking the George Soros planted state attorneys that are.

[Jim Hood]

Yep.

[Tyler]

I mean, this really isn't conspiracy anymore. It's. They're. They're there to charge cops and let criminals go. That's. They'll say it in their own mottos. They just.

[Jim Hood]

Right.

[Tyler]

They don't. They don't say it that way, but they'll say it like that. And Boston police officer Nicholas o'. Malley. A call came out, a carjack. A carjacking happened. Officer o' Malley found the car. This is at night, by the way. And I. And I cut this reel the other day, but this is how I look at it. I'm not a cop anymore. These guys are out hunting evil in a cold night in Boston. Finds the guy. They do what they're trying to do, and they pull up behind it and they pinch it, and the guy starts trying to back out. He's doing the reverse. You know, the Austin Powers thing. He's smashing in the cars, and they've got their guns drawn on him, saying, stop. Well, Officer o', Malley, although he has not said much and he's letting the union speak for him, it has been stated that he has said, generally, I thought that he was going to run over my partner based on the. The trajectory of the way the car was turning. So Officer o' Malley fired three shots into the. In the window, killing the guy within eight days. No, actually, I misspoke the other day. It's seven days. The state attorney's office filed charges on Nicholas o' Malley for manslaughter. They took him into custody.

[Jim Hood]

That's a shame.

[Tyler]

So we're looking at it, and we're like, you know, manslaughter is a pretty serious charge. When have you ever seen an investigator investigate something for seven days? That's it. But essentially, it's right under murder. It is a murder. It's an accidental. It's a negligent murder. You know, seven days.

[Jim Hood]

A car crash investigation lasts longer than seven Days.

[Tyler]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Like it already ruins the credibility of this investigation. And then somebody. I want to take credit for the this, but I can't remember who it was. They said that this is a direct impact from the. Justin Petty. It was his name. Justin Petty.

[Justin]

Oh, the New York. The Marine that. That choked.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's. That's Petty. The guy that was shot by ice.

[Ian Keller]

Alex Peretti.

[Tyler]

Alex. Pretty fre. Okay, we got it. We're here. We're back. Bye. ICE and ICE did the same thing and they shot that other woman, Renee. Good. She was doing the same thing. And ICE people are upset that they. They can't hold ICE to their accountability. So a lot of Boston cops were messaging us saying this is what they've been planning on doing. The first person that did this was going to get hemmed up to make an example of. I was like, man, that sucks because he did absolutely nothing wrong.

[Jim Hood]

That's. That's a shame that you are sworn to protect and to serve. There wasn't a list of people that you can protect and serve in a list that you can't. That was everybody, including this gentleman's partner. And a vehicle is a weapon.

[Tyler]

Yep. It's a two ton killing machine if

[Jim Hood]

it needs it is that doesn't run out of ammunition. If his partner was about to get run over and he stopped that from happening, I think he deserves a medal. Not cuffs.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And you know, it. It goes to show, a lot of the guys that do this job, they get burned out quick because they see things like this. Like Nicholas o' Malley could have very easily heard that call come out at 2 in the morning and went. And that sounds like something for a proactive cop. Not me.

[Jim Hood]

Yep.

[Tyler]

Nicholas o' Malley would be making the same amount of money and still have a paycheck right now. And not being Carson. Well, his bail was set at $25,000.

[Ian Keller]

That is ridiculous.

[Tyler]

So I'm. I'm assuming that that money was raised rather quickly. I'm assuming. I don't know for sure, but. But yeah, charges dropped on him. No, I heard no grand jury, no nothing. Just charges from the state attorney's office. This. And then what these Soros planted attorneys do is you're never safe. They'll go and they'll go, hey, get me the last 10 officer involved shootings. And they'll. They'll go through them and pick one and this is going to be our example case. And they'll put charges on somebody Two years later, in fact, salons oldradi. I can never say old. Oldrady.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Pipe hitters is actually helping out tremendously with Eddie Gallagher. His is the same thing. His was, I think, two years old. He had won awards since the incident. And that state attorney, I want to say. Is it Krasner? Yeah, in Philly with him. But I mean, ruined Sal's.

[Justin]

No, no, not. No, no, not Krasner. This. It was a New Jersey. It was New Jersey.

[Ian Keller]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Ruined his life, dude, all that. I mean.

[Justin]

Yeah. I brought up. I brought up the. The press conference. There was a press conference this morning with the. The union head for. For Boston. Talking about. Talking about it.

[Tyler]

Video. I love video. You hear it? I love video. With sound, though, more.

[Justin]

No sound.

[Tyler]

No sound. Is there subtitles?

[Ian Keller]

Closed caption?

[Justin]

You want subtitles? Okay.

[Tyler]

Well, I can hear it. Sorry.

[Ian Keller]

You can hear it.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, that doesn't really help us, Justin.

[Justin]

Sorry. Sorry. Well, it exists.

[Tyler]

What is it?

[Justin]

What is it? It's just. It was a police union Boston is what I would search. Police union Boston today press conference today

[Tyler]

say, what was it? Fox 25?

[Justin]

Yeah, that's one of them. Yeah, that had it.

[Tyler]

All right, I got it. We'll wrap up the show with this. I think this is really important. Sorry, I'm doing producer stuff. Not a producer, but share screen.

[Jim Hood]

Gotta figure it out. Tyler,

[Ian Keller]

that's gonna be a shirt now.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Figure it out.

[Ian Keller]

Elevated silence.

[Tyler]

Figure it out. Yeah. Figure out how to be quiet. Like the video turbotax bull service you'll happened.

[Jim Hood]

Other than the fact that it's an election year where there's an incident that happens eight days later before it's vetted, it's investigated, the reports are done, the measurements are completed. They go and arrest somebody off the street who clearly is not a flight risk. They asked for $25,000 cash bail. For someone who's lived every day of his life in Massachusetts, married, two kids, two young kids, not a flight risk. And they grab him off the street, they arrest him, they book him to embarrass him, to put this show on for all of you. I just think they should have taken their time, gone through this thing. They can say whatever they want about my client being able to see where his partner was because his body one camera could see it. But that body one camera does not have human adrenaline. That body one camera is not worried about not seeing somebody's hands. That body one camera isn't worried about going home safe at night so they can say whatever they want from that Body one camera that we're not allowed to see because of the DA's policy before the interview. But my client's perception is what matters here, here. And he stands by his actions. I think at the end of this case, he's going to walk away as an innocent man. Mr. Anderson, the d. A. Said that they arrested your client to not show special treatment in this case.

[Tyler]

What's your response to that?

[Jim Hood]

I've been involved in probably a hundred or more police shootings. This is the first one anyone's ever been arrested. This is not preferential treatment. This is election year tactics.

[Tyler]

I love it. Well, love it. Election year tactics.

[Jim Hood]

Well, he's been waiting 100 cases to use that line. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, Jim, I appreciate you so much giving us two hours in the middle of a day on a Wednesday.

[Jim Hood]

Gentlemen, I appreciate you guys having me on. I love being with you.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You know, that. That a lot of people think like, oh, that's the benefit of being an entrepreneur. But when you're an entrepreneur, you lay in bed at night going, what did I not do today? What did I not take care of? So the fact that you. You came on and. And. And talked to us and. And a lot of the guys, they always ask about elevated silence. They ask about you because, like I said, I. I tell them jim's such an amazing dude, and they're like, okay. So I was like, man, Jim would be the perfect guest to have on a Wednesday.

[Jim Hood]

So next time I wake up in a bad mood, I'm gonna call you and listen to you describe me. I love that.

[Tyler]

Tell me how I am again.

[Jim Hood]

Gentlemen, it's always a pleasure me seeing you guys hanging out. Next time I need to. I need to drive down and hang out with you guys in studio, for sure.

[Tyler]

Oh, man. We'll make a whole day of it. Everybody will come. Justin will come up, threaten me with a good time.

[Justin]

Yeah, right.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Jim Hood]

Back to the range.

[Tyler]

Now we'll have to.

[Ian Keller]

Michael got another cruise, though.

[Tyler]

Oh, my. Dude, when you took my. Mike was like. He was. Mike was. I don't want to say fresh off retirement, but he had never, like, been treated like that by anybody. And when you took us to the range, Mike was like, I can't believe he, like. I mean, I'll let Mike geeked out. He's like, I'm hanging out with Eddie Gallagher, Shooting all this free ammo with these badass suppressors. Jim's teaching us how. He was like, I'm blowing the away.

[Justin]

And I was like, it's been his wife Jojo's profile picture since then. That's the profile picture of her laid out, shooting a sniper shot.

[Jim Hood]

Yeah, she ate that gun up. I don't know that she's ever had that much fun.

[Tyler]

Oh, no, I haven't had that much fun. The only thing that sucked was when the guy that owned the range was like, oh, yeah, alligator killed my dog a couple years ago. We're all like, that was a little bummer. It was a swamp out there. But anyways, Jim, thank you so much. And please, anything you need from us, please let us know.

[Jim Hood]

Do the same. Guys, I'm here. You all know how to reach me.

[Tyler]

All right, buddy. Have a good one. Gentlemen.

[Justin]

Later.

[Tyler]

Jv team for life.