John "Shrek" Mcphee (The Barney Fife of Baghdad)

Summary

The Antihero Podcast

Episode: John "Shrek" McPhee (The Barney Fife of Baghdad)
Date: September 1, 2025
Host: Brent Tucker (B) with co-host Tyler (C)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the controversial figure John "Shrek" McPhee, a purported Delta Force and Special Forces veteran whose military and personal exploits have recently come under intense public scrutiny. The hosts take a deep dive into McPhee's claims about his military service, debunking them with publicly-available records, statements from former teammates, and a meticulous breakdown of his stories as told on various podcasts—including The Sean Ryan Show. With candor and critical humor, the hosts expose how McPhee, whom they label as the "Barney Fife of Baghdad," became, in their view, one of the most significant grifters in the veteran community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Background: Why This Episode?

Timestamp: 04:01 - 06:22

• John McPhee has been recently exposed via FOIA documents and reporting at Valhalla (see their “Throne of Lies” episode) for major dishonesty regarding his military career and conduct.
• The hosts clarify: McPhee was never a Sergeant Major or Green Beret, lost his security clearance, was fired from the Army, and has credible allegations of violent, criminal behavior.

  “John McPhee is not a sergeant major. John McPhee's not a Green Beret. John McPhee lost his security clearance. John McPhee got fired from the Army. John McPhee is a documented woman beater.” — Brent, [04:01]

2. False Claims and Actual Record

Timestamp: 06:22 - 21:52

• Inflated Credentials: McPhee repeatedly presents himself as a Green Beret Sergeant Major and elite operator, when in fact he retired as an 11Z (Infantry Master Sergeant).

• Exaggerations in Combat: Claims of extraordinary battlefield heroism (e.g., hundreds of kills, solo missions, legendary feats) lack evidence and are contradicted by teammates.

  “If you have to say you’re a badass… that’s an indicator.” — Brent, [08:05]

• The FOIA Fallout: McPhee’s defenders cite his supposed legendary combat record, but hosts push back:

  “Who told you he was our greatest war fighter? … He did. Who told you all of his amazing missions and all the hundreds of bodies that he stacked up? He did.” — C and B, [07:53–08:05]

3. The Sean Ryan Show Debunk

Timestamp: 11:08 – 41:02

Early Stories

• False Ranger Insertion

  • McPhee claims to have parachuted into Iraq in 1991; in reality, the Rangers conducted a training jump into Kuwait (not Iraq).

    “Jumping into Iraq is an actual combat mission where death is on the line. And jumping into Kuwait, into an allied friendly country to do a live fire exercise, is drastically different.” — Brent, [12:17]

• Tora Bora—Who Dropped the Bombs?

  • McPhee asserts he and “a couple other guys” controlled “every fucking asset in the hemisphere” and killed hundreds.
  • Hosts point out: airstrikes were controlled by attached Air Force JTACs and controllers, not McPhee; fighting was limited, and sources who served with him saw no evidence of such acts.

    “All the guys I talked to… said they never even saw him fire his weapon once.” — Brent, [15:48]

Distorted Actions

• Legendary Shots?
  • Claims of 2,500-meter sniper kills with a .50 cal or other rare rifles are not substantiated, and teammates deny he ever carried or used such weaponry.
  • Quotes and full replay of his shifting story:

    “McMillan 50. We shot dudes like, I don’t know, 2500 meters. ... The motherfucker’s never shot again, okay?” — McPhee, [34:49]

• Inter-Operator Fist Fights
  • McPhee supplies stories reminiscent of Tim Kennedy's tall tales—wild fistfights and “danger close” airstrikes that real unit members deny ever happened.

    “You were never calling in danger close strikes.” — Brent, [29:27]

Wildly Shifting Narratives

• McPhee’s own timelines and details are inconsistent—sometimes missions took “five days,” “seven days,” “ten days,” or “two weeks.”

  “How long did it take you to get up to Tora Bora?”

  “10 days? 7? The whole thing was like…” — McPhee, [78:43]

  “5 days, 7 days, 10 days, 2 weeks?” — Tyler, [80:10]

4. Singleton Missions Claim (The ‘Jason Bourne’ Fantasy)

Timestamp: 49:10 – 86:02

• Solo Ops Tall Tale:
  McPhee describes going alone, on foot/taxi/truck, into hostile territory—unable to speak the language, navigating by luck, and escaping near-death at every turn.

  • Hosts systematically dismantle the plausibility: any Delta mission of this type would require local partner forces, careful planning, and language skills.

  “The only person that did singleton missions is Jason Bourne. And he’s not real.” — Tyler, [56:19]

• Unverifiable, Absurd Details

  • John claims to have survived being drugged with “black tea,” used “Mongoloid voice at volume 11” at checkpoints, and “dragged the truck driver at gunpoint” to escape—stories that none of his colleagues recall and are refuted by operational fact.

    “You were in a vehicle that was already coordinated for you… with Afghan commandos getting you there. That’s the truth. And that’s a believable story. …Not good enough for Tim Kennedy Senior.” — Brent, [85:16]

5. Unit and Peer Reaction

Timestamp: 42:08, 101:58 – 104:01

• How Do Peers View This?

  • Other Delta operators consider McPhee an “embarrassment to the unit.”
  • No teammate of McPhee’s can corroborate his dramatic stories—in fact, most found him out of shape, unremarkable in combat, and refuse to be associated with his tales.

    “No one can stand the way he carries himself. Not just the lies. …the way he lies.” — Brent, [42:41], repeated [00:12], [44:40]

• How He Got Fired

  • Abuse of detainees, financial impropriety, and personal misconduct—not a "messy divorce," as he claims—led to McPhee's firing, not just dismissal from elite units but from the Army.

  “He got caught torturing a detainee. …He was fired. He’ll say… the unit doesn’t like messy divorces. …That’s not why.” — Brent, [101:58]

6. Cultural Phenomenon of 'Hero Worship' and the Failure of Fact Checking

Timestamp: 65:16 – 66:05, 32:03 – 33:42

• Institutions and celebrity hosts (Tucker Carlson, podcast platforms) do little to vet supposed military heroes, amplifying unfounded legends.

  “It’s not even the white knighters in the comments… It’s the huge billion follower bigwigs.” — Tyler, [65:16]

• The public and veteran community must be more critical, as "America’s best" sometimes propagate self-serving fiction for money and fame.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On McPhee’s Grand Fictions

• “If you don’t know the difference between a mortar going out which doesn’t explode… and a mortar coming in that has a massive boom… then you’re an idiot.” — Brent, [23:28]
• “That story is so epic. It would never die. …Or maybe it was a coordinated operation, and he was back in 24 hours with Afghan commandos.” — Brent, [92:03]

On Why the Community Must Speak Out

• “I don’t normally even get this… unprofessional, but we don’t normally cover guys who have done this type of thing and…are proud of it.” — Brent, [44:40]

On Hero Worship and Truth

• “I hope you’re finally starting to hear this and thinking to yourself…I feel a little silly. Yeah, I bought that lie… you were in receive mode… Don’t worry, I was [in Delta]. So let me help you out.” — Brent, [63:17]
• “I think you just need to detach from social media. …Stop embarrassing the unit and… the United States military.” — Brent (end summary), [104:01]

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Important Segments and Timestamps

• Background and McPhee’s Real Resume: [04:01–06:22]
• Debunking Ranger and Green Beret Claims: [11:08–13:56]
• Combat Story Dissection (Tora Bora, Afghanistan): [12:57–18:30]
• Singleton Missions Fantasy/Plausibility: [49:10–86:02]
• Discussion of Peer Opinions and McPhee’s Fallout: [101:58–104:01]

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a firm and direct rebuke of “stolen valor” storytelling within the veteran and influencer community. The hosts implore listeners—and the broader public—not to accept anyone’s legends at face value, demanding honesty, and respect for those who genuinely served. With gallows humor and methodical dissection, they argue convincingly that John “Shrek” McPhee’s legacy is not one of heroics, but of fabrication and disgrace.

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Transcript

[A]

Heard all kinds of which I know is absolutely not true. But the only person that's going to know is you and them and they'll never talk. So you can just make up your own story if you wanted.

[B]

No one can stand the way he carries himself. Not just the lies. The lies are, you know, are, are, are one thing, but the way he lies. That's. I'm, I'm telling you this. You want to talk about such a tight lipped group of people that were more than happy to be like, oh, I'm surprised it took you so long to call me Brent.

[C]

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[B]

An appropriate level of inappropriateness. Something happens in my family tonight. The Delta Force isn't coming to rescue my, my family might get like it is. First responders that are, that are going to save my family, they want the.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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[C]

Yeah, it's been going a lot longer lately.

[B]

It's fun. It's been, it's, it's, it's been going a lot longer, but it has been fun. Yeah, it doesn't feel longer.

[C]

I know that every time we start alive, you know, it's at the end of our workday and by the time we're an hour in and it's probably the most fun I've had all week and it continues to go on until we have to stop it.

[B]

Well, unless you guys have been living under a rock like lately, you're probably aware of the John McPhee incident. I'm calling an incident. The Drong McPhee saga. Saga. There's a, there's a good word. So over at Valhalla, they got a hold of some FOIA information that was very damaging to, to John McPhee. If you guys don't know, I'm only going to recap it real quick. Go over to Valhalla, go to his, his episode Throne of Lies. It will, it will cover it in much more in depth for about 25 minutes. But here is, here is, here it is to catch you up. John McPhee is not a sergeant major. John McPhee's not a Green Beret. John McPhee lost his security clearance. John McPhee got fired from the Army. John McPhee is a documented woman beater. I don't normally bring in personal stuff to episodes, but when the personal stuff plays into, plays into your professional life, like, well, now, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's game. So this isn't, this isn't us going personal on it. This is just what, this is just what happened you know, had a. Pulled. Pulled a gun on a girl, had sex with a girl that was passed out, and then emailed her from his military email address saying, hey, I hope you don't think I'm a rapist. Well, I hope she does, because that's what that is. That's. That's what that is. Yeah. Yeah. So his end of his career was full of turmoil that he brought on himself. He brought shame on himself in his unit, which is why they stripped him of his Green Beret. They stripped him of his long tab, they stripped him of his rank. They stripped him of his security clearance. He was. He is an 11 Zulu, and he should be introducing himself as so, because that's what he is.

[C]

What's an 11 Zulu?

[B]

Anytime you're an E8, you go. You get a Zulu. So 11 being infantry and E8 being Zulu. So he's an infantry guy, and there's anything wrong with being an infantry guy?

[C]

Well, unless you say you're right.

[B]

Unless you say you're that. That you're a retired Green Beret Sergeant Major, that's not what you retired as. You're retired infantryman master sergeant. And that's the number one thing that's disturbing to me and the reason one of the. We've. How many times have we got John McPhee questions on our lives?

[C]

I remember when they started coming in and you were, like, not tracking it, but I'll look into it.

[B]

Yeah. And I. I knew something was afoot, but I wasn't tracking the severity of it. And. And also, he hadn't done as many podcasts as. As he had done now, and he'd done a lot more podcasts, and he told a lot more of his stories, and the. The. The retired guys just came out of the woodworks being like, you kidding me? You hear what this guy is saying? This. He is. He is an embarrassment to the unit. The unit believes him to be an embarrassment. Embarrassment to the unit. And when Nate from Valhalla dropped that episode, the number one comment. It's crazy. Which is. Well, I mean, he saw so much action. He's one of the greatest war fighters of our time, and he did so much. Yeah, I mean, like, we. We broke him. Like, a lot of people defending him that because he did all these great things in battle that somehow. Well, it's. It's okay to rape a girl in her sleep. Make. Make that make sense. Yes. But here's. Here's my rebuttal. Who told you he was our greatest war fighter of all time?

[C]

He Did.

[B]

He did. Who told you all of his amazing missions and all the hundreds of bodies that he stacked up.

[C]

He did.

[B]

He did. So there's actually. Because there's always gonna be someone that's, that's gonna get you this aha moment and we'll, we'll pull it up for you right now. There's one other person that did put John McPhee in a case in glass that says break in case of war violence, and you break that. He is one of the greatest war fighters to, like, walk during gpot. So. Not really. I don't. Because of some, some podcast. Some, some podcasts. Because of some podcasts. It's not, he's not really a cred. So right now you have the biggest grifter the veteran community has ever seen being your only, your only vouch for being a great, the greatest warfighter. I don't think that's, I don't know. Please, Please never be a. What's it called when someone is a. Please never be a reference on my resume. Okay. That's not what you want. All right, so basically, the two people you have vouching for this guy is himself. Never. Never what you want either. If you have to say you're a badass. If you have to say all the amazing things you've done. Yeah, that's, that's an indicator. And if Tim Kennedy is the only one validating you, we'll call that a second indicator. So that's what we have going on right now. And even with them saying, hey, he did all these things. Did all these things. He'd all these things. Yeah, he got fired. Yeah, the wheels came off on the end, but that's what happens to the great ones. Well, let's find out if he is one of the great ones. I, I, I may know a few people and we, we, we may have done something like this before, and our track record is pretty good. And if, and if undefeated is pretty good. Yeah, there's, let's just call it like it is.

[C]

I just, Man, I don't there. Sometimes people get on us and they're like, why are you attacking somebody? And, you know, they made mistakes. And my biggest thing recently is have. We've had people come on the show that have been stripped of all their accolades because of the choices that they made, and they went on to do a very positive thing with their life. And their platforms are positivity change. They're not talking about war stories that did or did not happen.

[B]

We've had guys fired. Yeah. Fired from The SEAL teams owned it, went on to do great things. But I'll say this. It's a little bit easier to own getting fired when you're not beating up girls and raping them. I mean, let's be honest. Or pulling guns on you or. Yeah, let's, let's, let's. I can understand. Well, I can't even say that. I almost said, well, I can understand why you lied. No, how about, how about if that's in your past and then what we're about to tell you was his real military service. How about you not get in front of a camera? How about ever. How about you're just. You're not. You're not the guy. So let's, let's start it out this with Tim Kennedy Senior talking on the Sean Ryan Show.

[A]

You guys just make sure you do your.

[B]

What, what did you deploy with them Rangers?

[A]

Yeah, man, I jumped in Iraq in 91.

[B]

No, the lies start early. This is. He did not jump into Iraq with the 175th. It's pretty easy to tell. Anyone with Google can find this out because the Rangers didn't jump into Iraq in 1991. He's talking about an operation called Irish Gold. Irish Gold was the code name for an airborne assault conducted by the 1st Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Kuwait in December 1991. Now I know it's just another country away. What's the big deal? Except, I don't know. Jumping into Iraq is an actual combat mission where death is on the line. And jumping into Kuwait, into an allied friendly country to do a live fire exercise is drastically different.

[C]

Very different.

[B]

Very different. That's. I don't even know how to equate that. That's. That's like saying, yeah, I went and did battle with Mexico, but then I jumped into Texas, you know, like.

[C]

Or I just, I just cleared that complex.

[B]

Right?

[C]

You mean the training simulator?

[B]

It's just starts there and trust me, it doesn't get better. Here we go. Let's say, let's, let's. Let's continue on his, his, his career and see what it. See what he did in Afghanistan. He talks about a lot about Afghanistan since he didn't get combat in Iraq. Maybe, maybe he saw some amazing things in Afghanistan.

[A]

In Afghanistan.

[B]

And what were you doing there?

[A]

Killing bin Laden.

[B]

No, you were Tora Bora. You didn't kill them to that. All right?

[A]

We still haven't figured that, man. Me and a couple other guys controlled every fucking asset in the eastern western hemisphere for fucking ten days. Every fucking bomb, every Pound of audience. Me and a couple other eyes dropped.

[B]

Okay, pause. All right, problem. Problem number one. Yep. He. He insinuates this was like me and a couple other guys get there. He's gonna talk about here in a little bit. Like all the killing that. That, that they do and. And dropping bombs is. Is killing. But you just. Usually when someone's this, this look at me guy, they just negate the other people that were around. Yeah. Most of these guys took over positions from fifth group.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Fifth group was already there. Fifth group is dropping bombs. You didn't control every asset and the. In the hemisphere. There was still a war going on throughout the whole country, and there are plenty of bombs getting dropped. And then he says, me and a couple other guys. There were several teams throughout. Throughout the region. And you didn't drop anything, John. You had something called controllers and tact piece. Yeah. Drop things. And what. And which you. Which. Which you are none of. So you sat back safely from a couple kilometers away and dropped bombs. And guess what? That is taking it to the enemy. And. And that's. And that's the story. And that's the story. You were there. Here we. It's crazy. All three of them start to start to parallel and intertwine. You were there. You were at Tora Bora. But you don't have to be this, like, covered in blood and guts guy. But he's Tim Kennedy senior, so what do you expect?

[C]

What is what. I feel like we're just glossing over the whole, like, killing bin Laden, man. Was that just like a general, like. Just kidding. But I was in Afghanistan or.

[B]

He can't help himself. He. He had. It has to be bigger, better. It has to be big. I was there killing bin Laden.

[C]

Anybody tell Rob about this?

[B]

No, you weren't. Yeah, it was. We found him. Yeah, we found him. Yeah, I guess. I guess. I guess John doesn't know we found him. And it was. And you didn't kill him, Unfortunately. You know, I hate to say it, but. All right, go ahead. See what else he's got, Drew.

[A]

We killed a lot of people. We killed so many people my first day. Like, I just stopped counting in and they're like hundreds. Like it's too many to count. You know what I mean?

[B]

How were you killing them?

[A]

Radios took some.50 cal sniper shots, shot some guys.

[B]

Pause it. Look at the body language here. Look at them. Look at them looking down with. With the 50 cal thing. So I tried to find it because someone else told me that he claims to have a 2500 meter 50 cal shot. But maybe it's on the Sean Ryan show, maybe somewhere else. Anyway, he definitely talks about having a, you know, a 50 cal sniper weapon if you have one. All the guys on the ground that I talked to you smuggled it, right? Because, because they, they didn't see it and in fact they said there were so little like almost, almost non existent like fighting going on and it was so hard to, to get up into some of those positions. One guy's quoted saying if I could have thrown my SR25 rifle down the mountain, I would have. It was heavy and it, and, and it was useless to me because they were outside of small arms fire. Yeah, which is what you do. Not just small arms, I mean big arms. You're outside of, of enemy fire. You're, you're a recce position with your jtac or cct dropping bombs. So he didn't have a 50 cal rifle. No one that no, no one can verify. In fact I'll bring this up several times. There were two different people that ironically enough had the, the same quote that said I served with John for years, I never even saw him fire his weapon once. And this is, which is, which is pretty amazing for, for the greatest combat fighter of our generation or whatever you guys want to label him as. Never saw him fire his weapon once. The beginning of Afghanistan was very different than middle of Afghanistan and even middle of Iraq to a point. Yeah, the insurgency hadn't, hadn't started. We had a hard time finding targets. We couldn't find targets. It was a very conventional war at this time. This will go, this will tie right back into his solo missions here, mission here and a little bit. But it was, it was very hard to find the enemy. That's why Tor Bor was huge for two reasons. Bin Laden was there and they found the enemy. So they finally got to drop bombs. But I assure you, as always, of, of the several guys I talked to that were on the ground, there's only one person that tells this story the way it's, it's being told right now and that's John McPhee.

[C]

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[B]

Everyone else was just freezing their ass off, you know, watching. Watching the Air Force drop bombs. How about give. How about give credit the Air Force? How about give credit to those guys? I mean, that's. Those. They're support guys, and they don't get a lot of credit. They should. You know, this is one of those times. Those boys were working. Those boys were stacking aircraft. Those boys were dropping bombs. Why can't. Why can't you give him credit?

[C]

Something a narcissist can't do.

[B]

It's something a narcissist can't do. All right, let's see what else he's got to say. And you can tell he's searching for it. He's looking down because he's making it up on the spot.

[A]

But mostly just fucking moving up, bombing them. Moving up, bombing them, right? Because you can't get there from here. And if they shoot at me from that mountain, like, I'll just level it.

[B]

All right, let's go. Moving up. Bombing and moving up. Bombing and moving up, bombing. They didn't move up. They had their positions and they dropped bombs. That's what. A recce position. That's.

[C]

That defeats the purpose. Moving up closer. Moving up closer.

[B]

Are you assaulting Tora Bora? I. I wish you guys would have, you know, maybe. And it was. And that's not. That's outside of their control. So the. Let's. Let's see if. If he's got anything else to say about Tora Bora.

[A]

So we get to the top of the mountain, and, like, we're just getting bordered, like you read about. And I was like. I asked that guy, I was like, is this incoming or outgoing? Like, what's going on here, Right? Like, he's like, why? I'm like, this is great. Like, and then. And I just stand in there, right? So he kind of, like, walked back by the truck and just left me there, right? And then, like, I don't know, 10 years later, he was like, hey, remember that day on the top of the mountain? I was like, yeah. He was like, yo, those were incoming. But you had such a smile on your face. I didn't want to ruin it for you, okay?

[B]

I was like, this is. This is the type of stuff that kills me and people. Civilians are just eaten up. They love this guy. They think he's some sort of war hero. Did you see what he just said.

[C]

I, I, I. It sounds like I've been around them, and I've never really been around them going in combat, but I've been around them coming, and they don't sound the same.

[B]

Well, that's because apparently you're you. You have more experience than the greatest war fighter of our generation. Because if he can't tell the difference, who are you to tell the difference? That's the most retarded thing I think I've ever heard a vet say that. I didn't know the difference of incoming, an outgoing mortar fire. John, you were a Ranger, specialized infantry. You have been to a mortar range. You have seen mortars. If you don't know the difference between a mortar going out which doesn't explode. Yeah. It goes thump, thump, and a mortar coming in that has a massive boom and shrapnel everywhere, then you're an idiot. Then you're an idiot. You would have never gotten to the Delta Force.

[C]

And I don't think they. I don't think they bank on people going, listen, I get what you're doing, but it's like Rob and tactical amnesia. That didn't happen because that wouldn't happen to you. Like, I can tell you it wouldn't happen to you.

[B]

Right. It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. But it just goes to say, he's a storyteller, and this is what him, Rob, and Tim all have in common. They're storytellers. And so he's out here telling a story. He's. And he's a good. He's a good storyteller. And it's why he changed the name of his book to a novel, because a novel isn't the truth. And so he hasn't released his book yet. But I think, you know, that's why he's Timmy Senior, because he's just a little bit smarter and. Or maybe he just learn from, from Tim's mistakes. And, and he's changing up his book. Why do you think he's changing up his book to a novel? Because he's seen. So I wouldn't say so many because he's seen a few people fall before him.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's just, It's. It's. We're not, we're far from over. All right, let's, let's keep going. Let's see what else. Let's. Let's see what else the, the Barney Fife of Baghdad has to say several years over a Delta as well. Yeah.

[A]

So, I mean, how did that Feel fucking amazing, man. Amazing. And then like, typical team shit. I got two guys arguing. Who's going to be in fucking charge? One senior by. By time. One's actually in charge, but he's junior by time to the senior guy. So these guys are arguing. I just leave them arguing. It'd be like, yo, you know, call for a fire mission. Linear sheath. Fan them out, you know what I mean? Half air, half ground. I'm just fucking working it. And then be like, you know, be like, hey, they asked if we're danger close. Say stop arguing for a minute. Hey, how far are we from the bad guys? 400 yards. They said 600. Okay, send it.

[B]

I've. I've heard enough. God, Jerry's like the just typical savage fashion. These. These two guys are arguing. In fact, we're gonna insert another clip here. I'm a. This is why I call him Tim Kennedy Senior. Mike and I, we always had, like, some friction. We had been in a couple of fights over some dumb stuff.

[A]

He was in a machine gun position.

[B]

He had a pistol out.

[A]

I was like, why aren't you on your machine gun?

[B]

He's like, well, I want a pistol kill.

[A]

Like, you're.

[B]

You're a stupid idiot. And I would fist fight.

[A]

So, like.

[B]

Fast forward to this typical Neanderthal conversation 100. He tells a story of him and Mike Goebbels. He's like, you know, Mike's up there just doing like, typical team guy. He's up on the gun and he's got his pistol out. He's like, what are you doing with your pistol out? And he's like, I want to get a right. I want to get a pistol kill. He's like, get back up on the machine gun. Like, we start getting in this fist fight, just two guys being savages. It's. It's the same. It's the same story. Like, it's the same storyline. Yeah, just. All right, all right, so let's. And it's. Clip played. There's. That's why I call him Tim Kennedy Senior. Him. Him. Just typical savage stuff. Just typical team guy behavior. Just two guys fighting during the chaos. Fighting when it matters most. How unprofessional. When Tim tells this story, how unprofessional are the Green Berets to where Mike Goebbels, may he rest in peace, who's no longer with us. So he conveniently told a lie about a dead guy about having to get a pistol kill that no one can confirm during the chaos, which wouldn't happen, which wouldn't happen. You know what else wouldn't happen? 2 tier 1 unit guys not knowing who's in charge on top of a mountain. That's insane. We very. I, I won't give out the secrets, but it, but it doesn't take even calling it a secret. But I try to say as little as possible. It's a little tough to some degree. There's some things I want to tell to be like, let me tell you why that would never happen. I don't want to. I'm still in good standing with the unit. I'm trying to stay that way, even though John is not okay. So, you know, I have to debunk this while saying enough to debunk it and not. And not saying, you know too much. But the guys, the guys on a team know exactly who's in charge. Yeah. It's a very, very simple formula. They know exactly who's in charge. And you think they're up there fist fighting on the mountaintop. You're over there sneaking in radio calls for danger close at 400 yards. They were never 400 yards within the enemy. There were 1500 yards to 2, to 2, 1500 kilometers to 2 clicks the whole time. They never got that close. You were never calling in danger close strikes.

[C]

And I'll tell you what, I don't care much about fist fighting somebody. If I'm about to eat, eat it. Because I'm danger close to an airstrike. You know, I'm gonna have more of my mind.

[B]

And he's just gonna sue a sponte calling it a danger close strike with, with. Without whoever's in charge knowing about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Get out of here. And you guys are eating this up. You guys, now that I'm sure once you hear it now, you're like, oh, that kind of makes a lot of sense. People are listening to this guy and just eating it up and be like this. This is a warrior. Nothing he says makes sense because nothing he says that he did did he really do. Let me tell you. Let me tell you what most people told me about Tora Bora. It wasn't the fights. Yeah. The, the close air support strikes. It wasn't the mortars. It wasn't. It wasn't the chaos. It wasn't not knowing if mortars are coming in or out because all the guys I talk to knowing know the difference. Imagine that a guy in the Delta Force knowing the difference between incoming and outcoming mortars. In fact, I can't get over that one. I'm gonna take a. I'm gonna take a civilian out to the mortar range and I'm gonna see if they can guess which. Which one's which. Yeah, I think they'd be. I think they'll get tell. I think they'll get it from hundreds.

[C]

Of thousands and thousands of yards away with the difference.

[B]

It's, it's insane. It's so crazy. You know, you, you know what they told me the most? Every single of them? How cold it was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The most they thought about dying was freezing to death. They were hot. They were holding each other for warmth at times. It was so cold, so cold. And they were waiting for, they were waiting for their cold weather gear. They were absolutely dying at night. They couldn't start a fire. Yeah. They had to be tactical. And so that's, it's so funny. All those guys I talked to talk about how cold it was.

[C]

That's something you remember.

[B]

That's right. This, this guy talks like it was a battle. The bulge. A little bit of a different story.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, well, there's, there's, there's, there's your great war hero and, and, and Tora Bora debunked. Sorry. Sorry to hurt your feelings. And I, part of me wants to say I wish that was it because it's not fun tearing down a former unit guy. Yeah, it's not fun beyond sweet. But again, I would be a massive, I would be 2 face if I was like, you know what everyone can lie about, about. But, but our guys are. Yeah, yeah, we can't, we can't. They can't. Yeah. They're untouchable.

[C]

And I did, I, I thought about this today and like, you know, when we got together, you had told me before you hosted, before you became like, with me on this, you had said, I don't do police shooting breakdowns because I never trained like a cop. I was never a cop. And you were like, that's, that's going to bring this podcast so much is because I can bring my tactical experience. But let's hear it from a cop.

[B]

Right?

[C]

And, you know, although I'm here, sitting here, I, I've really, it feels really good to have somebody that was there and that not with him, but in that unit that can talk about all this because a lot of people can't.

[B]

All right, I'm, there's, there's another thing that was really, I'm just eerily similar to, to, to the Rob o', Neill, Tim Kennedy stuff. It's just, it's just different day, same story where these guys don't watch John on a podcast. They don't go watch him. They don't watch podcasts. You know, they might see a clip. What they see most is someone that'll send them a clip and say, hey, what do you think about this guy? You know, like one of their friends. Yeah. And. And I get the same. When. When I'm asking these questions, I get the same answer because they don't know the story. They're like, he said what?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep. He said that. Are you kidding me? No, this. This is. This is what he said. So it's the same again. It's the same thing from talking to Tim's teammates and talking to Rob's teammates, where they're like, he said what? Rob Seamates wasn't as bad because most people. His lie didn't. Didn't cover as much ground. It was, but they're. They were still very much surprised that he had the. Had the balls to lie like that. We'd be here all day going back and forth to Tim stories, to John's stories. So I'll just. The last one paints. Paints a good enough picture, but I'll talk about it. So remember when. When Sean asked Tim, he was like, hey, tell me about. Tell me about your first kill. And he basically lies about him shooting this guy in the doorway that was going after an ak, and it ended up being a complete lie. A complete lie because he was never on the assault. He wasn't. He wasn't qualified to be on the sift team, so he had to. On the assault team, so he had to be on a blocking position. Completely lies about his first skill. Here we go, Sean. Apparently. How about this? How about do some homework? Apparently, Sean likes to ask this question. Tell me about your first kill. Maybe you'd be ready for it this time. This time.

[A]

Was that affecting you at all?

[B]

That. That.

[A]

I mean, that's your first.

[B]

Let's talk about your first kill. You said you were on the 50.

[A]

Do you remember it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

McMillan 50. We shot dudes like, I don't know, 2500 meters. The problem is, is like, look, this is why I'm not claiming a million of these kills, because you can't get there from here. But I'll tell you this. The motherfucker's never shot again, okay?

[B]

Again, He's. He's. It's. It. There's. There's. There's another one that. That. That correlates and there's. There's a. There's another magic gun that shows up on the battlefield With. With Tim.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, gosh.

[C]

What is it?

[B]

Oh, 40 minutes, 55 seconds. We gotta edit this out. What is it?

[C]

408 straight. 408.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

It's a something. It's got an A in it. Four something. Tack straight.

[B]

Oh, it's killing me. You're. You're so close. It's actually. It's actually throwing me. Shy shot. Shy tack.

[C]

Shy tack.

[B]

Okay. All right. And we're back on at 4122ish. There's another magical gun that, that shows up in. In tim stories. The Shytac 408.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now he's got him. Now he's got a McMillan 50 cal at. At 2500 yards. Here's. Here's like, just, just like. Then no. No one knows that he has this gun. Again, we already cover. I'm glad that it is. It is in the Sean Ryan show so we can cover it. I get confused a little bit. I've watched unfortunately, all of his podcasts. I get. I get a little bit confused which one he tells the stories. And so he does tell in the Sean Ryan podcast. And I kind of already covered it. Every guy I talked to about this is like, no, no, Abs, absolutely not. Like, it was so heavy. It was so painful. We weren't within distance. Now it's funny, he talks about a 2500 meter kill, although earlier he was danger close within 400 yards. But now he's back at distances. I told you, they're at about 22K, you know. Yeah. Give or take. And that was the distances they were at. It is not a very accurate gun and you would shoot so many rounds at 2500 meters to a person. I can, I can go into a lot of. Of details with, you know, with minute of angles in this gun other than, sorry, John, like I said I could. I wasn't there. I can only ask all your teammates and all your teammates, and you're. You're talking about other guys there saying, we, we did this. They never shot back. That's. That's a great story, but unfortunately it is. It is unverified. Unverified at best. At best. And again, I would. We were only this far in. We're already talking all the things that you said that just aren't true. Even if this was true, even if someone were to be like, actually, he did sneak that in. What now? I can't believe it goes back to the same thing. I can't believe anything you say. You didn't jump into Iraq.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, you didn't call in Cass. Danger close on yourself. You weren't. You weren't stacking bodies. So I. With your teammate saying they never saw you do it and your teammates saying. Going as far to saying they've never even seen you shoot your weapon. Yeah. I'm going to have to. I'm gonna have to side with the guys that were there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And go chalk this one up to didn't happen to.

[C]

It's definitely not an I shot him. No, he shot a moment. It's a completely different.

[B]

No, it's a. I shot him. I never saw that or even saw the gun. You said that you saw the gun. Yeah, it's so. It's. It's. It is a little different. All right, let's. Let's. Let's continue with Tim Kennedy senior.

[A]

And then we just killed and captured so many people. Like, I don't think guys really understand, like, you know, the. The lone survivor story. Right. The Taliban, you know, on the Navy SEAL team. You know what I'm saying? And then it didn't go well for the seals. Okay. Yo, bring 400 of your friend. Tell them to bring their fucking trucks. Tell them to bring their machine guns. And like, we would just kill all comers. All comers. You know what I mean? And you'll hear other guys. There's other times. We did even more of this in Iraq. We just killed everyone that shows up. So it's like the. The lone survivor story. Like, I don't even understand it because we would kill hundreds of people in a day. Like, yeah, show up. We'll kill you too. We don't even care. Like, I didn't understand how those things really happened.

[B]

Okay. Wow. Wow.

[C]

There's a lot to unpack in that, John.

[B]

You don't understand how that happened because you didn't do anything like that because you were. Those guys were a wreck.

[C]

We're a recky team. Right?

[B]

The. And he. And he was recce. But they were. They were actually fighting for their lives. Like, four of them. Yeah. And people are going to go back. Well, wow. You guys. You guys. You know that's. That's not true. You guys already did an episode on that. Here's. Here's what I'm not. I'm saying it didn't go down the way Marcus Attrell said. But. But let me tell you, those guys were in a firefighter. Their lives because they lost. Because all but one lost it. And they were discharging their weapons at least and shooting. I got teammates from you, John, that said You've never even discharged your weapon that they know of. So for you just to randomly, on one of the largest podcasts, just, you know, crap all over those. Those guys. I don't know. I got a problem with it. It's not. It's not. It's not very. It's not very professional. And for him to be like, we just. We just stack and kill everyone. Well, no, let me tell you what you did at this point. You stood safely from 2,000 meters away and you drop bombs.

[C]

That's very different, because he's making it sound like him and a couple buddies just fucking laid waste to hundreds of people. But it was. So if what he's saying was that he did that, but it was from the. The airstrikes that they called in from two.

[B]

Right. Okay, John, what do you mean? You don't understand how that happened? It could easily happen to you. You don't know the difference between incoming and outgoing mortars. I'm gonna have fun with that one for a long time. It's so ridiculous. Let's. Let's. Let's. Let's let him continue to bury his. His own grave.

[A]

You know what I mean? Compared to my experience and what I saw. You know what I mean? And then so literally, man, I can't tell you how many days I got where we just killed so many people, you can't even count.

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

Is that Sean Gunn?

[B]

God.

[C]

How do I. How do I.

[B]

You know what that reminds me of? I've been on so many deployments, I can't even count. Let me help you out, Tim. Two. Let me help you out, John. Zero to two. Yeah, it's. It's a. It's a small number. It's just you, you, You. That's. You're not saying how many people you killed. You're basically saying you can't count.

[C]

What is.

[B]

That's just. Hey, that's just. According to your teammates. Don't. It's. I'm not the one saying it. It's your teammates that are the ones saying it.

[C]

What is the unit or people that have served in that caliber. Think about somebody sounding like. I mean, there's a difference between locker room talk at a bar versus getting on a podcast and sounding like a psychopath, like, we just murdered him and murdered him. He killed them all at, like, some point. And he's smirking and he's laughing.

[B]

It's like, man, there's a difference between being kicked out of the unit and png.

[C]

Okay, I did not know.

[B]

There. There it's there, there actually is a difference.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying.

[B]

Okay. And, and Shrek has checked both boxes, so no one can stand the way he carries himself. Not just the lies. I mean, the lies are, you know, are one thing, but the way he lies. This, I'm telling you this. You want to talk about such a tight lipped group of people that were more than happy to be like, oh, I'm surprised it took you so long to call me Brent. And then, and then tell me, you should call this guy. You should call this guy. Yeah, I mean, you should call this guy. And then it was, it was, it was the easy. It was the easiest interviews I've ever done. Thank you. Thank, thank you. Thank you. TK Senior. He did it to himself, as always. All these guys do it to themselves. And again, we'll probably get it in the, in the comments section too. I hope that this was by design, that Valhalla was going to take away his credibility by showing what kind of man he was and by showing that he was an absolute liar at the end of his career. He's not a Green Beret, he's not a sergeant Major. Again, the things he did at the end of his career and then taking no responsibility for lying, acting like it never happened, and then people continue to go and defend him and be like, well, he was such a war hero. Like, you know, we broke him. You think he's still a war hero? Do you, you think he's a war hero or you think he's just, you think he's just an a hole? Yeah, and he has been for a long time. I just, I, I don't, I don't normally even get this. You said ahole. Yeah, I don't normally get this on professional, but we don't normally cover guys who have done this type of thing. This type of thing and then, and then lied this this much and, and are proud of it.

[C]

We, we, we've talked about a guy who pulled a gun on a woman, but his name was George Floyd.

[B]

That's right. Like, even, even Tim, like after he's done being boisterous, does, like, we talk about his fake humbleness. He does the fake humble. This guy. It's on another level. This guy doesn't even attempt it. All right, let's go see, let's see what else this guy does. So there's, I mean, no, basically zero rules of engagement. Just kill anything that shows.

[A]

I used to call it State Department by Shrek. I'm the State Department here.

[B]

No, you're not.

[A]

I make the decisions.

[B]

No, you don't kill everybody.

[A]

Let's.

[B]

No, you didn't. All right, stop there. It just goes. It just goes back to this. It'd be one thing again. It'd be one thing if I got to call people like, hey, it was the Wild west, brother. Like, you should have been there. It was amazing. Yeah, it's not what I got. The early days for the war for the unit were tough. They was tough to find targets. It was really tough to find the bad guys. I had guys tell me before, at the beginning, at the beginning of the war, they wish they'd have stayed on their ODAs because their old ODA team is out there, you know, crushing, you know, the Taliban on the front lines because it was a very conventional war. Well, this time, we've done conventional war things since then, through 20 years of. Of the g. What? Or as Drew likes to call it, the gwat. But, but this is. Early on, we were high value target or AFO focused. That's why we're at Tora Bora. There's AFO things going on. There was an assault force ready, ready, ready to take on a high value target. So the, you know, this is what, this is what we're doing. So for him to act like this is the Wild west and they're just out there stacking bodies. They couldn't find armed bodies to stack. John, stop it. Just stop it. And you. And to sit there, pretend, you know, it means, like, to say, hey, we had zero rules of engagement. What's that really saying.

[C]

That it was a really hot area?

[B]

Well, well, zero rules of engagement.

[C]

Well, that sounds like a lie.

[B]

It. Well, yeah. Show me where there's zero rules of engagement. But.

[C]

But if you had said that to me, but you were telling me so I would be like, oh, shit, that's a hot area.

[B]

Or that you're just gonna shoot at anything that moves. Is that. Is. Is that who our tier one guys are? That will shoot anything that moves? Armed, unarmed women, children. Z.0 rules of engagement. And it's. It's State Department by Shrek. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[C]

That's why I was asking if.

[B]

And again, people watch that and ate that up. Like, oh, this guy. State Department by Shrek. He made his own rules. One person makes the rules on the ground. That's of a team. That's the team leader. He's God. He makes the rules. Shrek, you weren't a team leader then. You were never A team leader. You never made the rules. You followed the rules to the T by what the team leader said, and it wasn't you. So there was no State Department by Shrek. I can't even say that with a straight face. And again, you guys are out there eating it up. This guy's a war hero. Let's. Let's see what else he can do with this verbal shovel of his.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, I love chaos. It's my jam. I gave you a chaos as my jam sticker.

[B]

Yep. Hold on. If. If you considered getting fired from the Delta Force and fired as a green bray, losing your long T security clearance as chaos, that's. I don't know if you love that chaos. There was no chaos on the mountain of Tora Bora. There was no chaos of killing hundreds of guys through State Department by Shrek. So it seems like the only chaos in your life was self induced and losing your job twice. Yeah, and I, and I, I doubt you love that.

[C]

I just doubt you love that.

[B]

I doubt you made a sticker over it. But you did. But you did. How's that for Arnie? All right, let's, let's keep digging. Talk about some of your singleton missions.

[A]

So the first one, I had to go back into Tora Bora because I had been there. The, the premise of going back into Tora Bora is there was a guy who supposedly him and his sons brought bin Laden out.

[B]

All right, pause it for a second because I, I'm gonna go all the way through this one. And there were things at the beginning of this where I was like, that was like, I don't know if he ever did a singleton mission. And then I heard his mission and I was like, man, I don't. It just doesn't, it just doesn't sound right. And then people were like, hey, it's in the Dalton Fury book called Killing Bin Laden. So you got to read it. So let's, let's, let's walk. Let's, let's, let's, let's set the stage here. So I had to go get that book and read it. And let me tell you, those are, as always, people do this. They did this. When it comes to Rob, they're like, oh, no, no, no. Go, go read it in his book, the canine Handler. Like, he says in his book that Rob killed bin Laden. And I had to go read that book. And that's not what he said. He said, hey, Rob. When I said, hey, do we have him? Rob called me back and said, yeah, we got Him. So that, that's very, very, very different than, than him confirming that Rob was the killer. Rob just answered the radio call. Anyone could answer that radio call. Doesn't mean he was the shooter. Yeah, so I read this book because people like, oh, he's mentioned as doing this solo mission in the book. And so the, the guy who wrote this book, Dalton Fisher was his, oh gosh, Dalton Fury was his pseudonym. So it's not his real name. And he ended up dying of cancer I believe. But he's no longer with us. And I read that book and it was a good book. And so since it was in that book and nothing else in that book was really, you know, over exaggerated or lied about. And you can tell as always, the way this guy wrote the book, he wrote it to tell the story of the boys. He told it to do a lessons learned of what happened. So it wasn't a self aggrandizing book. But I, after reading the book and hearing John's stories, I'm like, hold on, let me go back and cross check this because this, this isn't making sense and I'm gonna make it all make sense for you guys because I had to go read it. So what he's saying right now is true. They were looking for a guy and unit. Don't get mad at me because this is, this is coming straight from, from a book, open source, that's, that's already out there. They're looking for a guy who they believe had harbored Osama bin Laden after Tora Bora. And so they were going to go, go talk to him and see if they, if he could give him any information. But this goes to show you how bad it was. They were willing to do a pretty daring raid. He talks about it in the book. It was basically like a low vis operation. They went and snatched this guy and, and, but it ended up being wrong and it wasn't. The guy didn't have the connections that they, they thought he had. It wasn't a dry hole. They got the guy they were looking for. It was an intel dry hole. He just wasn't the guy or as important as intel had described him to be. So yes, this, this did happen and he did do a singleton mission into this. But the truth is as, as always with these guys, the truth that actually should have been the truth of this mission would be still pretty cool. But it ain't good enough for old Johnny boy. So let's, let's see what he says about it.

[A]

They escorted him into Pakistan, right? And Then the goal was. The goal. Find him. So I had to go out alone. I was out for days. Taxis, trucks, hitchhiking, whatever you want to call it.

[B]

No, you weren't.

[A]

I get to the area.

[B]

Okay, you know, let's. Let's. Let's talk about that real quick. And he'll. He'll talk about it. John doesn't speak the language. He's. He's going from buses to taxis, hitchhiking. He doesn't speak the language. According to him, he's out here all by him. All by his. By his lonesome. Okay. We're in a little place called Longwood. Yep. Okay. I'm gonna tell you. You can't speak. All right? I'm gonna tell you you can't speak, and I'm gonna tell you to go grab a bus, grab a taxi, and just hitchhike and see if you could get to Tampa. You think without talking, without writing, without. Without talking, without. Without. And the only thing you could do that is even better. The only thing you could do is act like a. And to make this mission possible, you have to end up not in Tampa in the exact house that I give you an address with in Tampa. You think you can do it with no gps? No gps. Yeah, it does. You can't ask. You can't. You can't ask. You can't show them the gps. You think these Afghan taxi drivers. No gps. The guy can't talk the language. Yeah, the guy's covers a retard. The guy says, I hopped from vehicle to vehicle to vehicle and miraculously showed up on target. Are you guys listening to this? Like, are you. Are you finally starting to get it and be like, oh, hold on. Maybe this guy's a liar. Maybe this guy isn't the. The greatest war fighter of our generation. So let me back this up and tell you exactly what it was. It wasn't a singleton mission. He did it with Afghan special operations. People that would know. Who would know who could speak the language, who were there to help fight with them, could get them all the way. Using their vehicle to get all the way there. Now, that makes sense, doesn't it? You think you could. Now if I gave you two other people who could talk, who are from the area, and you trained on GPS to get to the house, do you think you could make it? Probably, but you damn right you could make it. And so. And someone's gonna go, well, he was the only American, so technically, it's a singleton operation. No, that's not what singleton means. So let's take just because you don't like Afghans. Let's switch it up. Let's say it's him and two British commandos, two British SAS guys. Is this is it? Is if you and two other British SES guys go on a mission, is that a singleton mission?

[C]

No.

[B]

No. If you and two Australian guys go on a mission, is that singleton? We go down this. So if you and two Afghan commandos go on a mission, is it a singleton. No, you're not on a singleton mission and you didn't miraculously hitchhike and make it to target and make it. And make it all the way back to exactly where you started.

[C]

Yeah. The only person that did singleton missions is Jason Bourne. And he's not real.

[B]

Drew, I love it, as you know, because at the end of the day, you know, Tyler has a tactical background. He was an 11 Bravo. He spent time, you know, in the sheriff's department. Like he, he's. You're. You're about as clean as a slate as. As I can get. Drew, does that story make sense to you?

[A]

Only the retard part.

[C]

It's so extreme. Let me, like, is that true?

[B]

And I always, I always talk about it like this. He doesn't, he doesn't really understand. And when you first hear this story, you're in receive mode, you know, so you're like, oh, okay, okay, okay. And once I start doing this, you break out of receive mode. You're like, okay, hold on, let me question this. Let me phrase it just one more different way. The Delta Force is still even at this time. We're a little bit combat untested, but we're figuring things out. We're still the best, the best war fighting unit in the world. And we're, and we're figuring it out. So let's take it down to almost any unit, but let's keep it the Delta Force. Who do you think is approving this mission? This is what he's saying. He's saying the Delta Force is so dumb, so careless, has no idea what they're doing, that a guy can come in and brief the mission and be like, all right, all right, Commander, here's the deal. You're just going to let me out of the wire, all right? I don't know how long I'll be gone for, by the way. Some. Some interviews, he says 5, some he says 7, some he says 10 for an undisclosed amount of time. And I don't speak the language. I'm just going to take a bus and then I'm going to Take a taxi. I'm going to hitchhike and I'm going to get there and come back. And he goes, okay, how are you going to tell. How are you going to tell the guys what direction to go? I can't. I don't speak the language. Okay, well, if something happens, like what's, what's your, what's your cover story? Well, I'm going to act like a retard. And then according to this guy, that Delta Force commander is like, approved. Get out of here. Get out of here, buddy.

[C]

Green light.

[B]

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[B]

So let me tell you, I don't want to get too far ahead. I might be covering too much. Let's let him continue on and I'll continue picking apart his ridiculous story.

[A]

Had a Kent cigarette bag with a fucking, you know, a Super 8. VHS. I think it was Super 8. 8, or may have been 6 mil at that time. 8 or 6 mil. Like cassettes in the little recorder, you know what I'm talking about? Bag and like a sat phone. I just took a cab out of Jalalabad towards Tora Bora Mountains and hitchhiked all the way till I got there.

[B]

And he hitchhiked. All by yourself? All by himself.

[C]

Holy.

[B]

And we'll pause real quick again. He hitchhike. Random people picked him up. What? I've. I've never hitchhike. I'm a. I'll hit you with another question. Okay, let's. Let's say you pick up a hitchhiker. Let's. Let's get crazy. You're going to. What? What's. What's. What do you think the first thing that happens when you pick up a hitchhiker? You stop. And then what happens?

[C]

You.

[B]

They talk to you and. Why would they talk to you? Why. What do you, what do you.

[C]

What do you want to know where they're going?

[B]

Oh, you want to know where they're going? Yeah, to see if you're going the same way. Yeah. To see if you could get them to their destination or help them out. What if you went to pick someone up and they didn't say a word to you or went.

[C]

Driving away?

[B]

How do you know when to stop? How do you know where to go? How do you know where to make a left? How do you know that this guy is even going the same direction you're going? Yet this is his explanation of his singleton mission and how he got all the way to target for a successful singleton mission. All right, all right, John, if that.

[C]

That's, that's.

[B]

That's your story.

[C]

The telltale.

[B]

No, no wonder you're being talked about on the antihero podcast.

[C]

The telltale sign with someone lies, like being a cop. I mean, they just get lied to for 12 hours a day. And, and when you go. When someone tells you a five minute story and you go, so you did this? And they go, yeah, yeah, that's like they weren't expecting that. So it's kind of.

[B]

I hope you Guys, I mean, most of our listeners know a little bit better, but guess what? This. It's. It's going to be a big podcast and we're going to have some new listeners. You guys are finally. I hope you. I, I know this. You don't know me, and I don't sound as humble as I normally do. This one just really irritates me. I'm not normally this. This over the top with it, but I hope you're finally starting to hear this and thinking to yourself, I feel a little silly. Yeah, I bought that lie. I bought it. But that's okay. Like, I don't. I don't expect you. Like I said, I already said it. You were in receive mode. You weren't in the Delta Force. Don't worry, I was. So let me. Let me help you out. Let's see. Let's see what else Barney Fife of Baghdad has to say.

[A]

And then, I mean, how the.

[B]

Do you blend in?

[A]

You wear savage stuff.

[B]

Sean's not lying.

[A]

It that work?

[B]

No Terp, no nothing. No to shut the up. Hold on. No Terp, no nothing. Yeah, Sean's over here, not buying it. He's like, it ain't making sense to. Sean's not dumb. Yeah, Sean's a smart guy, but, you know, when you have someone on your show, that's just. I mean, and I don't expect. And I don't. I don't expect Sean to stop interviewing an interview to a Delta Force guy and be like, hold on, before we.

[C]

Go forward, are you lying?

[B]

Are you lying to me? I don't expect that. Like this. This is why we do this, because you expect America's best to have a moral comp, a moral compass and do the right thing. But Sean didn't know he was fired. Well, he's about to find out. But Sean doesn't know the reason is fired. Sean doesn't. None of us knew until the Valhalla podcast that he was also fired from the Army. None of us. None of us knew. This. This is not. Even though we're using Sean's video, this is not a hit on Sean.

[C]

No, everybody got duped.

[B]

It's way too many people got duped. And guess what? They'll still get duped. You'll see. You'll still see all the white knighters in the comment section of this one going, I don't even. I don't know how they'll try to defend them, but they'll still try to defend.

[C]

It's not even the white nighters in the comments. Section that kill me. It's the huge billion follower bigwigs that. I mean, Sean Ryan is huge. But then when these people go on Tucker Carlson and I know for a fact, fact people went, Tucker, rethink this one. Watched episode 37 of the Anti Hero Pie. And Tucker went, ah, I'm good.

[B]

He, he's proud that he does. He says he doesn't watch the news, doesn't watch podcasts, you know, doesn't have a. I only think he says doesn't even have a smartphone. Something like he's. Yeah, and it shows. You're completely detached, Tucker. You haven't, you haven't. I used to like that guy. He's. He's been on a, he's on a, on a tear in the wrong way here in a second. All right, here for a second. Let's, let's see what else Johnny boy has to say. You know what I mean?

[A]

He's just shut the up. Yeah. And then like I had to act it at a couple of the checkpoints.

[B]

Well, hold on. Like, that's not that crazy because he's been doing that for the whole episode. So I do believe he was acting. But. But that's not how you got this mission completed. You got this mission completed because you had a partner force. Yeah.

[C]

That spoke the language.

[B]

That spoke the language. Keep going.

[A]

I got the AK to the chest.

[B]

No, you didn't.

[A]

You know, if I open my mouth, I'm dead.

[B]

No, it's not true.

[A]

So that's not an option.

[B]

No, that is an option. Let me tell you why. This was something every one of those guys went out of their way to tell me. And they're like this, this was a, essentially as close to a permissive environment as you can get. Like I said, what's that permissive? Like there's no, there's no bad guys in there. They couldn't find bad guys. Yeah, this, this hit that they're doing is low hanging fruit with bad intel. And that's, of course you can say that better in hindsight, but. Which is what they said. But they were like, we didn't go on almost anything. Like, we didn't, we didn't have the intel network, you know, set up yet. They're like, if we wanted to drive and, and John and Pete Blaber told us this. Remember Pete Blabber was telling about his stories early days. He's like, we did. The rule was not to look like a convoy. If we just wanted to take one truck and ride back to Bagram, we took what he goes, I would. I would take the truck and go to a meeting. And Bagram from. You know, from wherever he was doing his AFO operations at. This isn't 2005, 2007, Afghanistan. It was a. It was. It was a different time. So the insurgency hadn't started. So these checkpoints he's talking about, those guys were quick to tell me these are tribal checkpoints. They're not looking for Americans. They're not. They're not manned by the Taliban. Yeah, they're manned by tribes wanting to keep tribes that they don't like out. Out. Yeah, they. He's like, we drove through these checkpoints all the time, and. And with a terpene. And we'd speak English, and they, oh, it's American. That's not what we're looking for. We're not looking to keep Americans out. It's a tribal thing.

[C]

I didn't even. I never thought about that until now. Like, there's checkpoints for a reason, but Americans at the time weren't the reason.

[B]

Weren't the reason.

[C]

And they weren't manned by the Galvan.

[B]

And. And anyone that's been to Afghanistan knows exactly how tribal Afghanistan is. That's one. That's part of their problem. They care more about their tribe, and they care about their country. So they could never really band together and. And make it work. So it's like Chicago. So, yeah, these tribes weren't keeping you out, John.

[A]

I just figured I'd. Mongoloid voice at volume 11. So the guy's like, I'm. Guys like, get the out of here.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

And that's how I got through the checkpoints, and that's how I got the assault force through all those checkpoints as well.

[B]

Nope, that's not how you got the assault force through the checkpoints. You got the assault force through the checkpoints the same way you got through the checkpoints the first time you drove right through them. It was no big deal. They're tribal checkpoints. And that's just a fact. That's just a fact. Keep going. Going a million miles an hour.

[A]

Yeah, I would say this is. Any guy who is. Or girl who is abused as a kid can control that really well. Right. Because you know you're gonna get beat by dad when he comes home drunk. Right? So it's always about controlling that. I think anyone who's been abused could handle those situations just fine, you know?

[B]

Stop right there. I think that's crazy that he's talking about being able to handle the chaos Handle the stress because you're abused. Because he wasn't able to handle it. What, what happened at the end of his career? Why did he get his green beret taken away? Because he was abusing people. He couldn't handle the stress. He couldn't keep control of himself. You put a gun to a. You drew a gun to a girl.

[C]

I would have thought.

[B]

You beat up your wife.

[C]

I would have thought that the millions of dollars of training they dumped into an operator like that would be the reason why he was able to not. I mean, I would attribute it to that.

[B]

Yeah, let's keep. Let's keep going. See what this mongoloid has to say. How did you get picked for this?

[A]

Yeah, I was in Assad.

[B]

You can stop that real, real quick. Because he lies about it. Yeah. It's so funny. You. You want to know why his teammate said he got picked for it? Why? Because he had the biggest, burliest beard.

[C]

Really?

[B]

That's why? Yeah, that's the only reason why. It wasn't because he was great. It wasn't because any is tons of experience. No one had experience at the time. Yeah, it was because he. He had. He had the biggest beard. And they thought, at least from a distance, if something were to happen and if people were looking out because at the end of the day, I said it was permissive, semi permissive. It wasn't very risky. But you're still in Afghanistan, so why wouldn't you want the guy that blends in the best? So put a turban on that guy, big old beard, savage clothes, with a partner force. And, and, and you'll keep going. All right, let's. Let's keep going.

[A]

It's where I was stationed, and we were doing, like, all the northern valleys, like the Corngal Valley. Like, I've been in there with just two folks. Guys. We didn't have no problem until I seen that Restrepo movie. You know what I mean? I was like, I didn't even know that place was dangerous.

[B]

Pause it real quick. You know what's funny? He just proved my point. Everything. I was just saying, he was like, I've been in there with two guys and I didn't even know it was dangerous. Because it wasn't dangerous then.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Because it was. So you can't. So you can't say that and then basically say, like, how dangerous it was and how you're on the run with your life and a case putting in your chest. He's going to tell another story about. He's. How he's about to get drugged and say how dangerous this mission was. When you were in the Korengal Valley, those 11 Bravos were fighting for their life in Restrepo. I said it before. I'll say it again. Those 11Bs probably saw more combat and that rotation than a lot of special operations guys have seen their career. Those dudes were getting it. And even back in that day, three guys could just walk through the Korengal Valley and not even know is a bad place, because it wasn't.

[A]

And then I see Dalton Fury and the sergeant Major for him, and they were like, hey, what are you doing? I'm, like, stealing pogi from the chow hall. What does it look like I'm doing here? Like, you know what I mean? And they're like, you want to go on a mission? I was like, have you asked my boss? And they're like, we will. And I was like, yeah, I'll go on a mission. What is it? Right? And they're like, come this way. Right? And then. So they want me to go out alone. And the reason I had to go out.

[B]

Okay, right here. There's. Here's where. Is where I want to go to. Literally a couple seconds back, if you can, as close as you can. I know it's hard.

[A]

So I'm going to go out alone.

[B]

Okay. All right, I'm. Catch you up. So you guys don't have to watch that 10 minutes. Unless you've already seen it. He basically tells this. This. This crazy story that the reason got to pick for the mission is because he flies back to Bagram to steal food from the chow hall. And the troop leadership's like, hey, what are you doing? He's like, I'm stealing food. We don't have to. Yeah, no one has to steal food.

[C]

That's one of the benefits.

[B]

Yeah, right? And like, hey, do you want to go on a mission? He's like, well, you got to ask my bosses. Like, oh, well, come with me. So it just. So you're telling me that's. That's how. That's how we pick our guys? We just rent. There was no plan where it's like, oh, there's a guy stealing food from the chow hall. Let's put him up for an important mission. He's already showing signs, according to you, John, That's. That's how a tier one unit picks out singleton missions. Although this whole thing's crazy because we're back to TK World, where we're arguing about a thing that never happened. Yeah. So let's so let's. Let's. Let's get. Let's get. Let's get back to the story.

[A]

And the reason I had to go out alone is the general at the time said we could only hit targets if there's us eyes on. But you can't leave the wire.

[B]

Of course I'm asking, guys, hey, you know, is this true? And, like, you had to have USIs on and you couldn't go out, you know, unless. And. But you weren't allowed to go out every single. I mean, clearly, that. That would. That sounds like that'd be a pretty big deal, right? You think that. You think the unit be pretty upset. Be like, we can't hit targets. Yeah. Because we can only hit targets if we have eyes on. American eyes on. But we're not allowed to leave the wire, which would mean you're in a catch 22. Like, you can never go hit targets. I asked everyone about. About is this why? Is this why it was slow? Because, you know, there's always hints of truth to every story. And so I'm like, well, maybe this is true. Like, you know, I'm always looking for what's real because I don't want to be wrong about things. Not a single person had ever heard of that rule. Like, what are you talking about? We had done recce before. We had hit targets before in various ways. That. Yeah, I won't say, because like I said, unlike Shrek, I'm trying not to be pnged, But I can say this. They got out the wire before without any of those. Without any of those rules, and no one else had heard of those rules. But it goes back. It goes back to Rob o' Neill and Red, like, where he has to make the story fit this way to make sure he's the only person in the room alone. Well, he has to. He had. Because he doesn't want to admit that it wasn't a singleton mission. He doesn't want to admit that he wasn't hitchhiking with his cover story, being a retard. He doesn't want to admit the truth, so he has to. He has to finagle a story to make it make sense why he's out there alone. And as always, the only thing that makes sense is the truth. Yeah, none of this makes sense. Keep going.

[A]

So when I came to Bagram, technically my status was in transit, so they kept me in transit through the whole mission. And then when I got back, they showed the video USI's on, and they launched.

[B]

Hold on. So you're gonna tell me you're not. It doesn't make sense. So you're not allowed out of the wire, but because he's in transit, he's allowed out of the wire. And so you flew back to Assadabad, you prepared for this mission, and then when he flew back to Assadabad, what did he. What did he have to do? Well, he had to leave the wire. So just because you're in transit, you didn't. That makes no sense. You're in transit, so now you can leave the wire. No, if you're in transit like he's talking about, it's because you're literally going from base to base. But now transit means you can do singleton missions across the country. Again, it makes no sense. Like, your. Your transit would have been coming from this base, going back to the next base. As soon as you got back from the next base, you're off transit. And guess. And when you go on a mission that's not considered, you're not transit. And I don't even know what that transit status is. Might be a newer thing. But I tell you what doesn't make sense. That somehow that transit status allows you to leave the wire on a solo mission that you're not allowed to leave the wire on. And you don't think the General is going to go, hey, my two rules are this. No one leaves the wire. American eyes only. So here's evidence A that American eyes were on this. How did he get it? Did he leave the wire?

[C]

I'm double mad right now.

[B]

You see, General, he was in transit. Stealing from the chow hall. Make it make sense.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, when you. When you.

[B]

Now that you're looking at it through a different lens, make it make sense. Keep going. Interesting.

[A]

We had to do to make change.

[B]

How long did it take you to get up to tora bora?

[A]

10 days? 7? The whole thing was like.

[B]

The whole thing. I'll finish the sentence for you. The whole thing was like 24 hours. And almost all that was transit because they were in a super, super slow moving truck and really rough terrain that doesn't allow you to move very fast. It was essentially almost all transit. Getting the video and coming back. 10 days. 10 days. Okay. And you guys, and you. I hate. I want people to think I don't like the way. Because if you don't say it right, people. People won't be in receive mode, you know, for this as well. Yeah, for me. So it's probably not good just to keep on badgering the audience, being like, you Idiots bought this. It's just surprising. Yeah, it's. But, yeah, this guy for 10 days. You can travel all of Afghanistan for 10 days. But maybe it took you 10 days because you kept hitchhiking to the wrong car. Because you couldn't talk to him, because you couldn't talk the language. Maybe that's why it took you 10 days. Or maybe the truth is it was a partner force operation that drove right there and drove right back. And you were back in about 24 hours. Keep going.

[A]

I was out there like 10 days or two weeks. Like it. You ain't getting anywhere quick.

[C]

Five days, seven days.

[B]

Five days, 10 days, two weeks. Seven days. So what, what was it? Seven days, 10 days, two weeks, seven.

[C]

Days, 10 days, seven days, five days, two weeks.

[B]

And I mean now.

[C]

Let's nail it down.

[B]

So let's. I love it when you got a cop background because like you said, you. You deal with liars all the time when you did that job. All the time. And if you. If you ask the guy, hey, where. Where are you going? Where are you coming from? Hey. Like, well, you know, where. How. How long. How. Oh, you drove down here from New York. How long did it take you to get down here? 5 days, 7 days? 10 days, 2 weeks?

[C]

You're not even trying to catch them up.

[B]

You're.

[C]

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on.

[B]

Stop.

[C]

Wait. You just said.

[B]

Which one was it? You believe in that story?

[C]

No, no. Even if I didn't not believe you, now I don't believe.

[B]

Now I don. Exactly how long did it take you to eat us through Tora Bora?

[A]

Here we go.

[B]

135.

[A]

The whole thing was like. I was out there, like 10 days or two weeks. Like it. You ain't getting anywhere quick in it. You know what I mean? Riding in savage taxis and Jenga trucks. I mean, can you just describe that.

[B]

Mission in as much detail as possible? Yeah, that's a cop. Can you say that again? But way more detail. Exactly. How do you say I don't believe you without saying I don't believe you while you're recording your own show? I said, Sean's not dumb. Like, he's. He's. In fact. Thank you, Sean. Like, if he. If he didn't ask those good questions.

[C]

We wouldn't be able to see this, right?

[B]

Trust me, Tim can. Tim Kennedy senior doesn't want you to ask those questions because now he has to lie about it. Now he has to go into greater deep detail. And now he's in. Now he's in murky water in real time. In real time. Hard to lie. Yeah.

[A]

I left out of a cab the. Out of the safe house. I left out of a cab in Afghanistan, and the cab drove to wherever the cab drove. I got out with the rest of the savages. There's a goat in the car. People are sitting on my dick. Like, he didn't even know where the.

[B]

First taxi was going.

[A]

Throw up.

[B]

Like, how'd you know it was going the right way? How'd you know it was going the right way? Yeah, how are you telling them where.

[A]

You need to go?

[B]

Sean gets it.

[C]

Yeah. Sean, just continue our interview.

[A]

Yeah, I just ride, and then I got a truck. So was the cab.

[B]

Look at that nervous laugh. Look at that nervous laugh.

[A]

Or was it a local Afghan guy? I think. I think the safe house coordinated coordinate goes that way.

[B]

Oh, oh.

[A]

And then the cab gets to a place, and the dude just gets everybody out.

[B]

Look at him around, making it up on the spot.

[A]

Kind of wait there for another thing. Another thing, you know what I mean? But was it all coordinated?

[B]

Sean's like, I don't get it. So it was legitimate.

[A]

Once I got out of that cab, I was on my own.

[B]

And so how did you communicate to get in?

[A]

I found it. I found a jingly truck. Well, first off, all you gotta do is stand out there. Someone's gonna pick you up. That's how they do it.

[B]

But how do they know what it's.

[A]

Give you a ride? Yeah, they're just picking up randos out there all the time, like, you know what I mean? So picking up people ain't a thing. So I just kind of walk and I walk with the people, just kind of hang out. Truck would come by. We all get in that truck. And then I kind of knew my way. I knew where Tora Bora was. I had already been there, right? So I knew, you know, which way. You know, trucks going that way. No good. Truck's going that way.

[B]

Nervous laugh again.

[A]

I can just yell, make noise, and jump out at any time I want, but I didn't really have to do any of that.

[B]

Or are you sleeping?

[A]

I slept in a taxi or in the jingly truck.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

With the savages.

[B]

Like, no, that's not what he wants to know. He doesn't want to know. Where'd you sleep randomly during the. And by the way, you're basically saying you got in trucks, that you don't know where they're going, and you fell asleep. How do you. What if you woke up in Kandahar? You know, I mean, like, how. No, you didn't sleep. And I hate it. I get sucked down on this. Now we're arguing about things that didn't happen because you were in. You. That's. You were absolutely in a coordinated vehicle with. With drivers that you trusted that were going to get you there. If you guys aren't listening to this going, gosh, now that I watch it like this, it's painful to watch him say this. Where'd you sleep? You were out for 5, 7, 10, 14 days, 2 weeks. You're going. You're going to have to sleep somewhere at night a lot, and you're gonna have to sleep 14 different places. And there's not hotels, there's not motels. Doesn't matter. You don't speak the lingua, the language anyway. How are you just gonna go roll up in someone's house without. With going, Volume 11 Mongoloid and get a place to stay? Make it make sense. Someone.

[C]

That's the shirt. Volume 11 Mongoloid.

[B]

I mean, what makes sense again is the truth. What makes sense is he got in a vehicle that was already coordinated for him from the unit with Afghan commandos. Coordinated from the unit that were briefed that knew exactly where they were going. It took a while to get there. Yeah, you did sleep in the truck with Afghan commandos getting you there. That's the truth. And that's a believable story. It's a great story, actually, but not good. Not good enough for Tim Kennedy Senior.

[C]

Yeah, I think just sleeping with Afghan forces in the car, not knowing, like, even that's difficult. Yeah, that's a good story to be like, dude, I was so wild, I fell asleep while driving me.

[B]

Let's. Let's. Let's see. Something tells me that I just slept in taxis and trucks and miraculously ended up at the same place. That's a. That's about. That's about as good as the big bang theory being the truth. Let's. Let's see. Let's see where he goes with this.

[A]

Not my lap. When I was in the truck, I had to sit in the middle every time the guy shifted. He, like, handed my balls, and I'm.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yep, grabbed another gear. That's fine, too. You know what I mean?

[B]

Holy as.

[A]

As legit as it gets, man.

[B]

No, it's not.

[A]

The truck driver had a route, and he drove the valley to the end of the valley. He'd cr. At this house at the end of the valley. And the next day he was a. He had a logging truck. And the next day Drive out of.

[B]

The valley for a second. You don't speak the language at this point. He's talking about the end of the route where he's into the valley. He has a place where he crashes and drives back. How did you know? Because you hitchhiked to this random truck. Yeah. So how did you know that's where this logging truck was going and that he was going to spend the night here and that he was going to come back? You don't speak the language according to your story. This wasn't, this wasn't coordinated. So how do you know the truck you got in was going to magically end up at the end of the route? Unless the truth that I gave is the story. Nothing makes that lying stuff, man. Lying stuff. Yeah, let's see.

[A]

Bring trees, cut down trees, whatever, logging trucks. Anyway, so when I rode with him, we passed the target house. Literally. It's just kind of like me, him at that point. I kind of under my arm out the window and fucking got that dude. Luckily he was. I think he was standing on the fucking front porch when I made the video. Like it couldn't pid and the building at the same time. It was fucking. The video was great. There wasn't that dude.

[C]

That doesn't matter. Listen to my story.

[A]

Where him and his sons are supposed to bring bin Laden out of the mountains.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Right. So I do the recon. We get to this house at the end of the thing at the end of the like valley. You know how it's all terraced and it's a riverbed. They're all terrorists. So we go to this house at the end of the valley and I'm just with this driver guy and we go in this house and there's dudes and like they start drinking tea.

[B]

They give me for a second. Let's just, let's live in, let's live in pretendo world here for a second. So this random logger picks up this random guy who doesn't speak the language, acts like a. And with. And he's gonna bring and vouch for this guy to come stay in this house with other people and be like, yeah, come on with me. You can stay with me. You, you seem normal. Like it's, I'm telling you, it's it. You go to these other countries and yes, they, they do some weird things, but there's a. There's another thing that, that eventually you notice. You notice that those people at the end of the day are like. Cultures are also very similar. They're. They're They're a lot alike. No. No worlds in the world. Do you pick up a guy that doesn't speak your language, acts like a retard, you've never met him before, and you bring him to sleep with you and like, yeah, no, you stop and you go, hey, rides over, dude. Rides over, bro. You warn the village, don't let.

[C]

There's a guy coming.

[B]

But that's, but, but that's, that's. That's not an interesting story. So let's see how interesting the story gets.

[A]

The black tea, which I had learned earlier in tearing count, will put you to sleep for three days. Because that's the opium tea, right? They're all drinking clear tea. They give me black tea. I kind of knew the difference. Drank it anyway. As soon as it was bedtime, the lights were out. I took my speed so I wouldn't go to sleep. And then in the middle of the night, I dragged that truck driver into his truck at gunpoint and fucking pointed the other way, like, room, room. And he's like looking at me like, what the fuck? Because I think he actually thought I was crazy before then. You know what I mean? And then we got in a truck and drove away. And then at that house, I thought either they were gonna kill me, they had like this little boy they were abusing or some shit. I didn't even want to know what was going on in the next room. Never seen any females. And then as soon as I got that video, I wanted out of there. This is fucking mission success. I already. Every second you were out there.

[B]

So this, if it was true. Of course. I mean, I just proved to you guys without, without having to tell you that I talked to my buddies if this happened or not. But at the end of the day, I have to call these guys and I have to ask if it's a small team. Trust me, when, think, when people do amazing things, crazy things, silly things, small team, everybody knows about it. And when I asked this, the guys this story, every single one of them did the same thing and said. He didn't say that, did he? Yeah, he did. He's like, John's never told me that story once. One guy was even in the after actions review before, before heading out and got to hear everything. He's like, never, never heard that story. Teammates of John, like, never heard that story. You're telling me you get back from one of the craziest missions ever where guys are trying to drug you, you're taking speed to stay awake. You pull a guy into the Truck at gunpoint and vroom, vroom, and drive away. And you're gonna keep that story to yourself?

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

That's. That story is so epic. It would never die. I'd be brief. That story in otc, It'd be so epic. Or maybe it was a coordinated operation and he was back in 24 hours with Afghan commandos, maybe. Okay. All right. Okay. So he goes on to tell more about. About the. His, you know, his. His way of. Of getting back, but there's no reason to talk about it. He skims over it. But again, that would be good questions to ask. He basically just comes like, hey, I got back. I had. You know, every second I'm out, I was out. My life was on the line, and I got back. How'd you get back? You just hitched. Hike it back, and you made it magically to base without. You found the magic car driving right back to a safe house. That's amazing, John.

[C]

Think about that.

[B]

It's so amazing. If getting out there wasn't a miracle, getting out there and back is twice the miracle. The guy's a fraud. The guy's a liar. He's lied to all of the American public. Now you know who he really is via the vault, Nate and Valhalla and. And all you people's like, but he's a war hero. I think we just. I think we just debunked that. Is everything we've. We're not done. But everything he's talked about right now, is that a war hero? No.

[C]

Oh, that's true.

[B]

Right. But. Right. The. But after debunking every single story and telling the truth about everything he's done so far, is that. Is that. Is that the world's gift to combat?

[C]

Doesn't sound like it.

[B]

Doesn't sound like it. Let's keep going. All right. I'll. I'll save you guys some time. He basically gets. Gets back to the safe house I talked about. It's. It's a miracle. They. They start planning for this mission. They. They do a really cool mission to. To get here. We'll just call it, you know, a Trojan horse. I know. It's. It's open source. I could go into more detail about it, but if. Read the book. It's. It's really cool. That's. That's what. That's. That's where a lot of the credit belong to. And now he's on target. And so now they're actually here. On target. Let's. And let's. Let's. Let's see if he can even tell a story, right, about being on target.

[A]

I kind of, as the sniper sealed the backside from the village, right? They're raiding the house. Villagers start to kind of like a lot of villagers were coming about to overrun us, right? And I just fired over their heads with an AK because I had an ak. That's what you carry.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

What I did.

[B]

So you're a sniper, but you're doing backside support with an ak. Okay, let's not, not, not the sniper weapon of choice, but let's, let's keep going.

[A]

Is every fucking laser on the assault force is on my body like, yo, me go back to work. You know what I mean? Like these lasers over AK fire, right? Everyone's like, what the fuck is that? Right? It's just me.

[B]

All right, let's stop there. That would be. He's a storyteller. Like he made Sean laugh about that and that, that's what all these guys have in common. Like they, they throw in these, these inner, these, these intermittent funny stories like to make you laugh because that's, that's, that's the art of storytelling. Like Rob, almost anytime he throws in humor, it's a lie. So I asked those guys that were, that were on that raid and I said, hey, what's, what's, what's going on here? Do you remember, you know, like, you'd remember that. Like it was. Because it was a well executed. Like it was a well executed raid. And so now he's just spraying randomly to hold the villagers at bay. Then everybody on the assault force puts lasers on him and almost shoots him. They're like, that never happened. That absolutely never happened. Like we. What he said it goes back. He said that? Yeah, he said that never happened. He just, he can't even tell the story right about, about the assault because you'd have to give credit to the guys that, that perfectly executed a mission rather than you in the middle of the night. I'm just saying for me, you get, you get your lookers. People looking out the window, looking out a door. You might get a village elder that'll, that'll come up and be like, hey, let's. What's. What's going on here? The Mongolian horde on a. And they, they snuck in. They snuck in and the Mongolian horde is in the middle of the night is, is, is coming to target and you have to hold them at Bay with AK47 fire. Just again, just doesn't make sense. Things that never happened for a thousand Alex. Keep going.

[A]

And we Raid the house, get the guy and his sons. Like, his kids were sleeping with a fucking water buffalo. Like, I'm trying to open the shed. We're clearing the outbuildings. Later, trying to open this. It's fucking dark, like, trying to get in, open this door, finally shine a light. It's a water buffalo. Like, he's laying on the ground, and I'm pushing against his face, and he's.

[B]

Just laying there like that.

[A]

I'm like.

[B]

Okay. Holy. All right, John. I don't know if he's completely sober during this. During this episode, but you can only be one of two places. You're either on security or you're clearing buildings and you're part of the assault.

[C]

That's what I was just thinking.

[B]

But, no, he's the greatest war fighter of our generation. He can do both at the same time. He can hold the Mongolian horde off and clear outhouses and clear rooms with water buffalo.

[C]

I said, this one. One of the TK videos we did. When you watch an action movie, like an Arnold movie or something like that, they play the role of every job in the movie because they're the action star. It was written for them, so their narratives are written for them.

[B]

Yeah. Where he got water buffalo from? I'm not. I'm not real sure. I'm not gonna. Not gonna follow my sword on this one. The guys there. This was 20 years ago. Plus. Plus. And they're like, there was a cow. There was a cow, like, in the house, and then the cow ran out. They're, like, won the water buffalo.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not here, here, nor there. But again, you get you on the assault. You're on security. John, where you at? Because. But again, he. He can't even tell the story. He can't even tell this story. Right. Let's keep going.

[A]

And then, like, hey. And then, like, little kids stand up from, like, behind him, like. And, like, they're sleeping with this water buffalo to stay warm. Wow. So the kids slept with a water buffalo. I think there was a donkey in there too. Like, bizarre. Like. Anyway, first time I seen a water buffalo. Surprise.

[B]

Be the only time I've ever seen a water buffalo.

[A]

We cleared the house, and then I left the next morning. Helicopters came in. They exfilled.

[B]

That's. Oh, John, John, John, John. Well, maybe. Maybe he does better. Maybe he does better in Iraq. You know, we could draw. We could draw this thing out. I don't want it to be a tour episode of just basically doing more and more and more and more. Let. Let me tell you How Iraq goes. He goes to Iraq and there's more singleton missions in Iraq. And, and he just. He didn't do anything that no one else did in Iraq. He went to safe places in a car and he picked people up and he brought them back to get them, to get them through the gate. That's what he did. He didn't do anything again, that any other people didn't do. He says he did hundreds and thousands. All the guys also had the same thing to say. He's like, yes, when that particular deployment happened, things weren't crazy yet. And we could go. Go into town or not even in the town, right outside the gate, pick someone up, bring them inside the gate. Just. Again, this is where I don't want to get into too much detail, but this is. But this is kind of what he's talking about. Everybody did that. Everybody did that. You're not some unique Singleton. Hundreds of operations. They're like, we only did that for one deployment. They're like, unless he went out the wire to pick people up three to five times a day and bring them back, there's no way you could do hundreds of those things. He did. He did one not singleton mission in Afghanistan, and he did what everybody else did a couple times in Iraq. That doesn't make you the greatest warfighter of our generation. Doesn't make you some great war fighter of our time that people are. Are. Are boosting them up to be that. That makes you. That makes you an another operator, but you're not another operator because you got fired. And he got fired for a couple of reasons. He was having. He was doing things with money that he shouldn't have been doing. And so eyes were already on him. Oh, and then government money with government money that he shouldn't have been. And eyes were already on him. And then this is according to people who were there, who were with them. This isn't Brent saying it. This is me speaking for the people who. Who led a very secret life but care enough to get the story out.

[C]

And you talked to him?

[B]

Yes, I talked to him. And I didn't talk to one person or two or three or four or five. I talked to as many as I could, and they all talked to me. And then he got caught torturing a detainee. And so he's already on the chopping block, and now he's torturing detainees when he. When they were told, hey, we're not. When we're going to be above board, we're not going to do things like that. And Then he gets caught doing what he was told not to do, and he was fired. He'll say on the Sean Ryan show, oh, I had a messy divorce. And the unit doesn't like messy divorces. And you can see Shawn Ryan look at him like you. And I'll. I'll interpret Sean Ryan's face. We. We'd lose half a special operations if messy divorces got people fired.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's not why. So he lied about that. He was eventually fired, Was never a team leader. Didn't. Didn't do most of the things that he said he did. He's. He's. He's lying for money and fame like Tim and Rob. He's in the same boat, and now he's getting the same treatment. Here's a couple other funny things that I just, I thought were. Or just. Or at least one more that really sets up the type of person that he was. Several people lamented about how out of shape John was. I know this is funny, but to be the greatest war fighter of our generation, you should probably be in better shape. We'd have things called Sergeant major days where you'd have to. Sometimes by yourself, sometimes as a team, and you'd have to do a bunch of runs and shooting and things, and everything's for a competition. My buddy was like, everybody didn't want John on their team because he was out of shape. And you knew if you got John on your team during a sergeant Major day, you were going to come in last. Oh, had another guy said, I don't know if John could have passed an Army PT test, like the army. What was called apft.

[C]

Apft.

[B]

Yeah. Because I'm not sure John could have passed an apft like a standard apft.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

It was. A guy was just out of shape. But, you know, this was 90s. This was 90s military. That ended up. And that's not me bagging on the unit. I hate doing that. But this was. We were just finding out about war and things had started to get real serious. So he had a lot of things going against him and. And he got fired. Well, it didn't stop there. He got. He got fired from JSOC2. He. That's. That is who the Barney Fife of Baghdad is. And now you guys know. And now you can quit going to the comment section of Valhalla and saying, oh, but he was. He was such a. He was such a hero. He was such a great war fighter. The wheels fell off. You can. You can keep that out of his comment section. And you can keep that. Of our comment section. This is normally the part that I gave to Rob and Tim, and I was like, hey, you can, you know, come clean. You can, you know, everyone loves America, still loves a redemption story. It's not over. I'm not. I'm not even offering, John, that. You don't. I think you just need to detach from social media. I think you need to quit training people and telling them, you know, all these amazing things that you've done and all this information you have to share. I think you need to get off podcasts, and I think you need to stop embarrassing the unit and stop embarrassing the United States military and just go, go, go do an actual singleton mission and go get right with yourself.