MAMDAMI VISITS MAN WHO TRIED TO STAB THE COPS (02/05/2026)

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast – MAMDAMI VISITS MAN WHO TRIED TO STAB THE COPS

Date: February 5, 2026
Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Summary by: Podcast Summarizer AI

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode delves into a recent controversial NYPD police shooting involving a mentally ill man, the subsequent reaction from New York City's Mayor (nicknamed "Mom Donnie" by the hosts), and broader issues of law enforcement tactics, mental health interventions, and political posturing. The crew–Tyler, Mike, Dominic, Jimmy, and guest Ryan Miller (a Marine Corps veteran and frequent “opposition” in their comment section)–break down the incident, examine reactions from politicians and the public, and engage in honest, often intense debate about training, accountability, and what justice looks like for both officers and citizens.

Recurring themes include police procedure during crisis calls, the difficulties law enforcement faces responding to mental health crises, the politicization of police shootings, and the disconnect between decision-makers, frontline responders, and the communities they all serve. The show also features guest commentary, audience Q&A, a comedic Army recruiter call reenactment, critical analysis of police training, and a look at systemic challenges in law enforcement culture.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Sponsors, Technical Fumbles, and Today’s Agenda

[01:28 – 03:57]

• The hosts introduce the target audience (veterans, first responders, blue collar Americans).
• Brief technical hiccups (“I hear it too… Sounds like an alien…”), gentle ribbing about podcast production.
• Tyler: “We got some guests today…but the biggest thing we got to talk about is mayor Mom Donnie and his love for destroying New York City and defying law and order.” [03:57]
• The day’s big topic: a police shooting during a mental health call in NYC.

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2. Incident Breakdown: NYPD Shooting During a Mental Health Crisis

[04:08 – 14:47]

What Happened:

• NYPD responds to a call involving a mentally ill man. The man’s mother called 911 for EMS, but police arrived first (as is protocol).
• The man arms himself with a knife. Officers give repeated commands to drop the knife.
• Shots are fired; the man survives.
• Public and family backlash is immediate (“we didn’t call the police…the presence escalated the situation”).

Host Analysis:

• All hosts agree NYPD officers did what was necessary under the circumstances, but noted:
  • Tactical mistakes: Closing the door and leaving the mother inside with an armed subject.
    • Mike: “He closed that door and left the woman in there with the armed subject. That’s bad. Now you could have a hostage situation." [11:19]
    • “Textbook response is to drive and kill him or shoot him right away.”
  • Lack of training is blamed for tactical missteps. Repeated refrain: "NYPD has got so many people. They don't train."

Memorable Quotes:

• Tyler: “Who are the bad guys in the situation? ... Mom’s gonna be mad at the cops.”
• Dominic: “My opinion.” Tyler: “No, not your opinion. Sorry. Oh, public.” [09:11]

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3. Controversy & Mayor’s Reaction

[13:43 – 18:58]

• Mayor "Mom Donnie" Response: Visits the family and delivers a highly politicized statement, “No one should have to live through this” (referring to the shooting of the mentally ill son by police).
• Tyler: “That statement alone is a hundred percent, ‘No family should have their son gunned down by police.’ Because it’s awful.”
• Hosts criticize the mayor for:
  • Failing to support law enforcement in public remarks.
  • Making it a political issue rather than focusing on officer or community support.
  • Tyler: “The only people that can commit you against your will… are a doctor, a judge, or a law enforcement officer." [16:40]
• They argue public officials are prioritizing optics and re-election over actual public safety solutions.

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4. Deeper Dive: Who Should Respond to Mental Health Crises?

[18:49 – 26:53]

• All hosts agree that mentally ill subjects in crisis require a law enforcement response; sending unarmed mental health teams is a "recipe for disaster."
• They reminisce about calls where physically small, mentally ill people fought off multiple officers—“that’s the worst call… you’re trying to be reserved, not to hurt anybody.”
• Mike: “You can feel bad for the kid… It’s all unfortunate. But as the mayor you have to support your law enforcement first.” [15:17]
• Host consensus: “Cops would LOVE to not have that responsibility anymore.” [21:58]

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5. Political & Media Dynamics: The Never-Win Situation

[23:00 – 27:00]

• Discussion shifts to the political incentives of NYC’s leadership:
  • Dominic: “He wants as much chaos as possible. He wants to go ahead and tar and feather the guys wearing the badge because that makes him look good.” [23:00]
  • Mike: “You can’t win. It’s a job you can’t win. It’s unfortunate, but you can’t win.”
• Recap of previous canceled cop coverage shows (COPS, Live PD), and how public/media attitudes have swung in recent years.

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6. Guest Segment: Marine Vet (Ryan Miller) – Debate on Service, Identity, and Systemic Issues

[34:28 – 61:11]

Introduction

• Ryan Miller is introduced as a frequent “dissenter” in the comment section, and is brought on to give his point of view.
• Ryan: “I do leverage that identity to basically bring attention to certain causes…I’ve abjured the oath of enlistment I took when I was 17…” [35:44]
• He identifies as a Marxist, socialist, and feminist, far left of “liberal.”

Lively Debate & Notable Moments

• Ryan shares how guilt over non-combat military service contributed to PTSD-like symptoms (“alcoholism and excessive pornography use and even like ripping out my toenails at one phase…psychedelics helped me cure that”). [42:20]
• He actively works in veteran suicide prevention, cannabis distribution for vets, and peer support.
• Tyler and Dominic express significant ideological overlap with Ryan (anti-forever-war, Raytheon criticism, lack of proper care for non-combat veterans).
• Sharp but respectful debate on:
  • Law enforcement accountability
  • The real meaning and impact of “law and order”
  • Mass incarceration, systemic racism, and the “new Jim Crow”
  • The value (and harm) of “warrior” culture in the military and law enforcement.

Memorable Exchanges:

• Dominic: “Enjoyed the job, enjoyed the rush. If you have a problem, it's not with the enforcers, it's with the people who are telling us to enforce things.” [37:23]
• Ryan: “Our culture has shifted so far… veterans have become this sacrosanct, untouchable portion… there's this notion to separate the honorable warrior from the dishonorable war.” [37:59]
• Tyler: “You're really well spoken. I'm half a… so I'm trying to keep up with you.” [38:01]
• Ryan: “I think disrupting the narrative—especially in this, like, hyper-jingoistic, you know, military worship nation—is important.”

Technical Difficulties & Humor

• Ryan’s connection repeatedly drops, prompting jokes about “evil capitalist iPhones” and the feds sabotaging the call. [56:46]
• Despite political differences, the hosts offer to have Ryan return as a recurring guest panelist.

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7. Police Training: “Monday Morning Quarterbacking” & Agency Culture

[66:07 – 74:36]

• Dominic/Izzo: “That shooting was 100% justified. He waited too long… being harsh on cops makes it easier to defend them when they do something right.” [66:07]
• Analysis of why law enforcement is resistant to critical feedback and internal accountability.
• Mike: “Shouldn’t we be watching these videos within the agency and have our own opinion, not be forced to say ‘this was okay’?” [75:42]
• Host consensus: Police culture punishes humility, suppresses learning from mistakes, and resists “armchair quarterbacking,” unlike sports, military, or fire/EMS.

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8. Political Rabbitholes: ICE, Second Amendment, and Systemic Trust

[77:17 – 84:00]

• Brief discussion of ICE recruiting undocumented immigrants as police recruits, and what that means for law enforcement legitimacy.
• Izzo: “If you have cops… who are going to illegally seize you and they're not even American citizens, doesn't that meet the litmus test of being able to use your Second Amendment?”
• Broader (often comedic) debate about when, if ever, the Second Amendment should be invoked against “tyrannical government”—and why most Americans say this, but never define it.

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9. Q&A, Super Chats, and Community Feedback

[95:43 – 106:47]

• Hosts tackle audience questions from super chats:
  • “What percentage of cops are genuinely racist?” – unanimous response: “Under 1%.”
  • Routine mental health calls and the cumulative effects on officers and families.
• A somber, real-life reminder: A listener’s Marine Corps friend recently died by suicide, highlighting the episode’s relevance and urgency.

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10. Police Bodycam Review: Miami Dade SRT Breach

[97:11 – 105:47]

• Hosts analyze a Miami Dade SWAT bodycam clip (serving a child pornography warrant).
  • “First off, you train for that... you are breaching, you're ready to go... a guy walks in front of you with a gun... shooter puts him down. Beautiful shooting.”
  • Intense, granular debate over tactics and algorithmic best practices.

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11. Comedic Segment: Army Recruiter Roleplay

[110:39 – 121:57]

• Jimmy fields a mock call from a starry-eyed “homeschool” Army recruit (played by Dominic).
  • Classic recruiter bits: “We can get you a waiver for having too high a GT score for infantry.”
  • Guest appearance by “Staff Sergeant Hoover” (Marine recruiter).
  • Wacky banter about posters, anime, fuel specialists, and how Army/Marine recruiting works.

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Notable/Memorable Quotes (w/ Timestamps)

• “He closed that door and left the woman in there with the armed subject. That’s bad. Now you could have a hostage situation.” – Mike, [11:19]
• “The only people that can commit you against your will…are a doctor, a judge, or a law enforcement officer.” – Tyler, [16:40]
• “No family should have their son gunned down by police. It’s awful.” – Tyler, [14:47]
• “You can’t win. It’s a job you can’t win…which one's right?” – Mike, [25:56]
• “That shooting was 100% justified. He waited too long…being harsh on cops makes it easier to defend them when they do something right.” – Izzo, [66:07]
• “Our culture has shifted so far…veterans have become this sacrosanct, untouchable portion…there's this notion to separate the honorable warrior from the dishonorable war.” – Ryan Miller, [37:59]
• “I abjured the oath of enlistment I took when I was 17 before my brain was fully developed…” – Ryan Miller, [35:44]
• “We’d love to not have that responsibility anymore. If you told cops, ‘You don’t have to show up to suicide’...we’d be thrilled.” – Tyler, [21:58]

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The Original Antihero Broadcast Tone

• Blunt, irreverent, darkly humorous, and at times confrontational.
• No-nonsense, blue-collar perspective, steeped in first-responder and veteran experience.
• Emphasizes both watch-out-for-your-own and accountability for law enforcement and officials.
• Not afraid to criticize political leaders of any stripe, systemic failures, and internal police culture.
• Welcoming to opposing views if expressed with honesty and backbone.

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Episode Takeaways

• Law enforcement is routinely tasked with managing mental health crises—often with little or no training or resources—placing both officers and civilians at heightened risk.
• Politicians may use these high-stress incidents to signal empathy or align with the loudest voices, but rarely address the complexity of frontline realities.
• The “Monday morning quarterback” is vital for police improvement, yet police culture often discourages honest internal criticism.
• Mental health, veteran care, and the intersection with policing remain deeply fraught topics, but direct, sometimes uncomfortable dialogue is essential for real progress.
• Despite sharp ideological divides, common ground can be found through candid conversation—and, as always, some dark humor goes a long way.

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Transcript

[Mike]

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[Jimmy]

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[Tyler]

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[Dominic]

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[Mike]

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[Jimmy]

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[Tyler]

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[Jimmy]

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[Tyler]

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[Dominic]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

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[Dominic]

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[Tyler]

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[Tyler]

Do you guys have that wiring?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

I hear it too.

[Mike]

Lewis is fired. Sounds like an alien is trying to take over.

[Tyler]

I just want to make. As long as it's not on the actual broadcast.

[Mike]

That is my tinnitus. That's better.

[Tyler]

Yeah. There we go. Did you actually get the workout video that we did two weeks ago on there yet?

[Mike]

Yeah, it went up the deck.

[Dominic]

Yeah. Went up that day.

[Tyler]

It did.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. It was the only. But I wasn't in it because nobody else helped.

[Dominic]

I wasn't in it either.

[Mike]

You were in. Was you and Jimmy benching.

[Dominic]

I don't think I should be mentioned.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're both in it. You're both in it.

[Tyler]

I'll go look at it. Yeah, so we'll get right into it. We got a couple things today. We got some guests coming on remote, but the biggest thing we got to talk about is mayor mom. Donnie.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And his love for destroying New York City and defying law and order. So obviously he was on the thumbnail. NYPD shows up to a mentally ill person. House call. We'll watch the video. Guy produces a knife. They did everything they could that me and Mike always talk about. They did more. They actually said, drop the knife. Probably more than I think they should have, but they tried back some other.

[Mike]

Things I don't like. But we'll talk about it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, so we'll see how quick Lewis can get that video up.

[Mike]

Video two, Lewis. Video two. Lewis. The one with the number two under it that you labeled yourself. There you go. The only one that says number two. Sound.

[Dominic]

Louis.

[Mike]

Good. We're good. All right.

[Dominic]

Ever since I've been watching videos, I.

[Mike]

Don'T stand by the door no more. I love it.

[Izzo]

That's.

[Mike]

That's. That's a whole breakdown right there. Go ahead.

[Dominic]

What did he say?

[Ryan Miller]

Yes.

[Mike]

Yeah, coming.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, my gosh. No, you're fine. You're fine. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the. Move, move, move, move.

[Tyler]

The door.

[Jimmy]

Put the knife down.

[Mike]

Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Drop the knife. Drop the knife.

[Tyler]

Pretty. Pretty cut and dry, I'd say, yeah, it's pretty good and dry, but we'll break it down. The first thing that we both noticed is that he goes, yo, bro, every time. Every. I've been watching videos. You don't stand next to the door for one. I. I don't. I guess Mike's gonna on it a little bit, but I just think that that's. Guys that don't get training try realizing it on their own. It's sad.

[Mike]

At least he realized it on the fly. But, yes, if you're watching and you're a police officer, please don't stand in front of windows outside calls. Just. I. I don't. And at least he saw it in a video. Maybe it's a training video. Maybe it was a YouTube video. Maybe it was a Instagram.

[Dominic]

It was a copy video.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that guy named Cop.

[Mike]

The bottom line is. Yeah, don't stand in front of windows on calls.

[Dominic]

That's.

[Mike]

That's where I would go. That's where the start of it is. But at least he realized it. And he. You know, he hit it and he moved.

[Tyler]

So, yeah, when you go. When you don't get training, provide to you, like we always talk about. NYPD has got so many people. They don't. They. They don't train. And so that guy just recognizing, like, hey, man, I heard this thing that we shouldn't stand in front of doors. Like, it's sad.

[Dominic]

Well, I mean, it's better than nothing. I mean, let's be real. I mean, at least I can say one thing about that guy.

[Tyler]

He.

[Dominic]

He takes his job serious. He. He's like, oh, man, I saw a video on this. Let's not stand in front of the doors, bro.

[Tyler]

So let's watch it one more time.

[Dominic]

Ever since I've been watching videos, I.

[Mike]

Don'T stand by the door no more. How you doing? Pause it for a second. It didn't do much, but he was still standing in front of the door. That person opens the door and presents a weapon.

[Tyler]

I think he meant anyway.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. But the door opens in, so you really can't get hurt by that, but.

[Izzo]

Okay.

[Mike]

It's a forever.

[Tyler]

So he goes right here, he says, did you call? And she says, yes. All right, good.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Mentally, of course. I'm breaking things.

[Izzo]

Come in.

[Tyler]

Yeah, happens all the time.

[Mike]

Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down. Put the knife down.

[Jimmy]

Put the knife down.

[Mike]

Put the knife down. Put the Knife down. Put the knife here. Drop the knife. Drop the knife. Do you want to be the good copper? The guy that supports her? The guy that goes.

[Tyler]

I'll be the supportive.

[Mike]

Okay, but.

[Tyler]

All right. So, so much to break down. So first off, obviously, I was just telling Jimmy, routine call. My son's out of control. Who do you call? Ever since you were a child, you're in danger. Who do you go to?

[Dominic]

They call cops.

[Tyler]

Right. I don't think a lot of people understand what that consists of when you call armed law enforcement to your house. So it's tragic. Of course, he lived, by the way the guy lived.

[Dominic]

That's good.

[Tyler]

But, you know, it's. Who are the bad guys in the situation?

[Dominic]

My opinion.

[Tyler]

No, not your opinion. Sorry. Oh, public.

[Dominic]

Oh, yeah, it's. It's the cops who. Who shot.

[Tyler]

You know, Mom's gonna be mad at the cops. So what actually happened was she called for emergency services, AKA an ambulance. Right. And they said, we're sending the cops, too. So she called. She didn't necessarily call law enforcement, but there's no way EMS is going to show up to somebody in a mentally ill state.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Without the cops. They act. We actually go in first, they stage and make sure it's okay.

[Mike]

Second responders.

[Tyler]

Yeah, man, you're really going back. So. And then I, I will.

[Mike]

So that's.

[Tyler]

They said, did you call? She said, yeah, I'll make that clear. She didn't call for the cops. She called 911 and they sent the cops. Automatically, they walk in. That's a really shitty area to be in.

[Dominic]

Yeah, that's pretty, pretty tight.

[Tyler]

I don't. I've done it a million times. But looking back, you know, should you go ask our. Start asking some questions on the front porch. Where is he at? What's he doing? Can you ask them to come out here rather than. But I've done it a million times. It's a routine call. They're probably trying to figure out which gyro their place they're going to go eat at.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Good choice of food.

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And they're just like, gonna knock out this call real quick.

[Dominic]

And I mean, that's, that's the. You guys say this all the time. And that's the thing that gets highlighted to me is like, these guys are like, yeah, we're cool, we're cool. And then five seconds later, they are like, yeah, they're killing a dude.

[Mike]

Yeah, that call is. Is what you think we're going there. Talk to this kid, tell him to calm down. We'll be out of here and five minutes.

[Tyler]

And it's not criminal.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, we can do.

[Tyler]

You can break the.

[Dominic]

In your house.

[Tyler]

The only thing you cannot do, Jimmy, is arson. You can't burn your house down. You can't burn anything. But you could show up and you can destroy. Same with a spouse or a child. You can destroy the whole house. It's not criminal.

[Mike]

Yeah, so then. So you want to go keep going.

[Tyler]

Or no, you're good.

[Mike]

Where I start to have the problem and I'm not. I think they did a good job overall for law enforcement, for the community. You look at that video and you're like, okay, that's what they had to do. Heather brought it up. One of the problem, the first problem. And Dom and I watched this video together, and Dom was like, should have killed him way sooner. Everybody thinks Don ships on cops. He closed that door and left the woman in there with the armed subject.

[Tyler]

That's bad.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's not good. Because now you could have a hostage situation. So unfortunately, the textbook. And I've talked about this before, the textbook response to that, unfortunately, is to drive and kill him or shoot him, like, right away.

[Tyler]

Why not shoot him in the leg, Mike?

[Dominic]

Well, I mean, there is a. There is a question there, and I. And I couldn't really see it because of the angle that I'm at. But I mean, obviously he's. He's brought a knife into the equation, so he's escalated to lethal force immediately. And so that's why they went. They went to guns. They didn't go to, you know, I mean, I don't see anybody packing OC sprayer batons.

[Mike]

You don't go to that anyway. In that scenario, there's. You don't bring that to a knife fight.

[Tyler]

I mean, not saying that you were saying that, but that's actually a good point. A lot of people don't understand. Well, why didn't they try to taser first?

[Dominic]

Yeah, because he already went to lethal force. That's why. Yeah, I mean, like, I know that. Yeah, you know, I mean, like, that, that, you know, that that's. That's an easy one. Like if you introduce something into the equation where. Yeah, absolutely. This is, you know, life, flame, eyesight. This could kill somebody.

[Tyler]

So the backing up thing, we preach it a lot, but we preach that during the boiling pot of water thing. But like you said, there's no hostage there. There's no third party. If anybody's suicidal, they're homicidal. You have to just. You have to Take that in consideration. So forced to shoot. I, I, if I had to pick something other than the closing the door thing, it's the amount of times that cop did not want to kill that.

[Mike]

Dude and that was it. And, and then like the shot is not. It was a terrible situation. You have mom standing there. That shot is not one you want to take. That's not it. That's iron sight. I would, I'd rather take my chances with a lot of things and have an iron sight. NYPD cop take that shot with no training. Yeah. Shoots twice a year. He shoots twice a year at the RA change. So I would not want.

[Dominic]

By the fact that the, the suspect lived.

[Mike]

Yeah. And there was a video not too long ago that just came out. The one we watched in the hospital. Dropped a knife a thousand times. That was NYPD with a bad grip on the gun.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The thumb is covering the back, you know.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dominic]

You're gonna break your thumb.

[Mike]

So I look at that. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I think it was great work.

[Tyler]

They did it.

[Mike]

Outcome was good there, but you have to, you know, you can't always base your outcome as a success. You know, you could do a thousand things wrong and the outcome is lucky and it ends up so you'd never want to lock somebody in the room with a guy with a knife.

[Dominic]

You know, I, I got a question, though. Guys like this seems like a pretty cut and dry case.

[Tyler]

Why is it?

[Dominic]

It seems like it might be controversial. Is it controversial?

[Mike]

It wasn't. Where the controversy comes in is mom, dummy gets on the TV and says, no one should have to live through this. I went and visited the family.

[Tyler]

I, I have what he said.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Because we use Northern provisions all the time. I think you shared it. New York Mayor Zohran Dandi, whatever the his name is, has been receiving criticism over his remarks on the shooting of Jabaz chaka Bordi, a 22 year old queens 22 year old in Queens who has experienced a mental health episode. In quotation marks, Mom Donnie stated that he had spoke with the family and also visited Jabez in the hospital saying no family should have to endure this kind pain. The issue is this is highly politicized because of who he is. Because that statement alone is a hundred percent. No family should have their son gunned down by the police. Because it's, it's an awful scenario. It is. It's awful.

[Mike]

But as his job is the mayor, what about the mental health?

[Tyler]

First off, this should not even be on the Rayer's Madar mayor's radar.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

A mayor wouldn't even know about this. No, it should be unfortunately or not unfortunately. I might be biased. But if a cop is shot, that's when the mayor goes in there because that's. Those are the guys protecting law and order in his city and he wants to go and let them know that he supports them. Or maybe a child in it that's a victim of a drive by shooting. Right. That would any.

[Mike]

Any crime Shooting. I'm okay with a crime shooting any like child. Like, yeah, that's fine. But when your cops are involved in an incident, you can feel bad. I feel bad for the kid. I feel bad for his mom. If mom wants to kick his shot. That's not what she signed up for that day. The kid's having a mental health crisis. It's unfortunate. It's all unfortunate. I'm not on it, but you as the mayor have to support your law enforcement first. So to not even mention like maybe if he's gonna say that it should have started with hey, I went and checked on the officers involved and yeah, he's doing okay. They're out on admin leave. We're gonna get him any mental health. You know everybody thinks we're psychopath freaking killers.

[Izzo]

Nobody.

[Tyler]

I don't never wanted to kill.

[Mike]

I didn't want to kill anybody. Dude, you can call me anything you want. I'm about to throw guys on the ground. I'm in an ias. I didn't want to kill anybody. I never did. I'm glad I didn't.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So you have to start with your in house and clean up your guys first. Make sure they know you're supported. They're supported. Hey man, great job. Shitty situation.

[Tyler]

Nothing else you could have done correct.

[Mike]

And then go. Then I went ahead and checked on. I don't have a problem with them checking. But that shouldn't be the entire politicized. Yes, that shouldn't be the entire thing.

[Tyler]

Jabez's mother made the 911 call during Jabez's mental health episode. It's in quotation marks. That's why I'm doing that. Saying he was throwing glass and that he needed to be removed against his will. While she had specifically called for ems, she was told that police would also be arriving. So that's you can't you. What that is called in Florida is a Baker act, right?

[Dominic]

Yep.

[Tyler]

And that's you the only. I've said this before. The only people that can commit you against your will, at least in the state of Florida, are a doctor, a judge, or a law enforcement officer. That's it. There's the only three people that can do it. So EMS can do it? Yep. When the officer arrived, Jabez begins walking toward him with a knife. The officer begins backing up and telling Jabez to drop the knife. The officer then closes the door, but Jabez pushes through it just before getting shot four times.

[Mike]

I think it sounds bad the way they wrote it. It just sounds bad the way they wrote it.

[Tyler]

Pushes through it. Jabez is still alive and in the hospital. His family said since spoke out against the police. Against the police and the shooting. Saying we didn't call the police. And that the police officer's presence escalated situation.

[Mike]

Mom Donnie, here comes ready?

[Tyler]

Mom Donnie. Oh, you want me keep going?

[Mike]

No good.

[Tyler]

Mom Donnie hinted that the while police should respond to that violent mental health episode, he hinted that this may be an episode they shouldn't have responded to.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

An Eyewitness News reported that they asked Mayor Manati. They're calling for involuntary removal. They're saying that he's breaking glass. I mean, would agree, right. That a police officer should be responding to that. Mayor MD Donnie replied with the following. I think that the question is the heart of our pursuit of the Department of Community Safety are looking to answer exactly what mental health crisis response should look like. And I think we are seeing it. What we're seeing is what does look like.

[Dominic]

And together I have formed words and those words are going to return.

[Tyler]

And we know that for far too long, we haven't asked these kinds of questions in the system. Those are the ones we're looking into right now. So the answer is, I don't have an answer for you because I have an answer.

[Mike]

Send Mom Donnie to one of those calls. Yeah, send him. This is like California with the mental health teams that go out unarmed and all that. You send an unarmed person or EMS into that call and he starts running after a knife. What are you doing? What are you going to do? They can't do anything. They're unarmed, untrained. It has to be a law enforcement response. Unless it was my son sitting in the front yard unarmed, making snow angels. And I think he needs some help.

[Tyler]

Maybe.

[Mike]

Maybe. But even then it can become that. Yeah, unfortunately, mental health crisis. And they try to make it sound all.

[Tyler]

Lewis, check that email again.

[Mike]

They try to make it sound very, you know, minor with the way they worded them. He's having a mental health crisis. It's unfortunate that means they're unpredictable. That's less predictable than hey, two guys got in a fistfight outside of a bar. Okay, great. They hate each other. You get there, you tell them to stop, they go home.

[Tyler]

And real cops, man, how many times we've been there, man? We don't, I don't, I don't like putting my hands on mentally ill people. No, it's the worst. They fight. It's not strong as. It's not their fault they're mentally ill. Their, their parents don't know what to do because they have an adult child living there that pushes them, hurts them, break things. And it's like, who's gonna, who's.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

At the end of the day we're just. If you put mental health counselors in there, they're gonna get hurt too. It's. Unfortunately it's law enforcement.

[Mike]

We were, we were smaller and we had these, I'm sure you had them. But like facilities and businesses all over the county, they would call us and say, hey, we have like a 16 year old juvenile in the room. He has no idea. He's going to be Baker acted. He's going to be violent. When you get there like ahead of time, that's worse than going to a bank robbery. To me, I'd rather go to the bank robbery. I'd rather go to a shooting call. So now you, your partner, three of you, you get ready, you walk in the room, open the door and here's this kid ready to go. And I never forget this one incident that sticks out my head was we're fighting him and he's 16 year old stud dude. We're for, three of us are just getting at it with him in this doctor's office and somebody pulls a taser. Now the parents are going, no, don't tase my baby. And it's like, that is the worst call. I'd rather be in a fight. I'd rather have a traffic stop run. I'd rather be in a standoff with someone. That is the worst call because you're trying to be reserved, you're trying not, you're trying not to hurt anybody.

[Izzo]

You don't.

[Mike]

And then you're going hands on. It's their problem. Ultimately it's a Baker act. They called you there and now you got the parents fighting with you to not touch their kid. But you have to get them in custody.

[Tyler]

There was an 18 year old scrawny girl, man, dude had to been like £90. Put up the biggest fight in the world with me. My buddy Mac. Just trying to rest. She was, it was a judge's orders. She has to go.

[Dominic]

And you guys were trying hard not.

[Tyler]

We came and talked to the parents first. Just like Mike said. She's in the garage. She doesn't know. We looked at the paperwork. I'm making sure it's through and through. If something's wrong, hey, I'm not putting my hands on somebody, right? Everything's good. We go in there, we try to talk. I mean, how long do you spend on these calls? 40 minutes, trying to talk to him. At the end of the day, people are just not gonna go. And you go, okay, I need you to stand up and you do the whole guiding, gentle guiding. They go like this. And then you, you go, let's stand up. And then the fight's on. You have her entire family surrounding you in a circle. Not really, not against us, but like, please don't hurt her. Please don't hurt her. And it's like, we're trying, dude, but this, this isn't supposed to be a spectacle. This is what making sausage looks like. It's nasty. It's. You got two cops trying to pin down a 19 year old girl, so they put handcuffs on her to get her help. It's awful.

[Mike]

Without hurting her. Because he's ready. It's just a slam on the ground and take her to jail. Take her.

[Tyler]

I'm trying to gently do it. It's just, it's that cop. And you know what? Law enforcement would love to not have that responsibility more. Oh, yeah. If you told cops, hey, you don't have to show up to suicide.

[Dominic]

I just want you to go get the gunships.

[Tyler]

We know exactly what's going to happen. We're gonna go, we're gonna get called in anyway. The, the liberal nurse around it.

[Mike]

That or the, the EMS is not going. Doctors aren't going. They're going to be like, hey, you got it. And then the flip side of this is when you do bring somebody into the hospital, the hospital gives you about it, oh, we have any beds? Or we're busy, we're full. It's like the. Do you want me to do? Like, what do you want me to do with them? Like, I fought him, he kicked me in the face three times. I got him here. And they're like, hey, whatever, it's a, it's a nightmare. And it's, I mean, always a cop's fault.

[Dominic]

So maybe what we do is just like, hey, no more people showing up to mental health crisises. And if they're Armed, then, yeah, we will show up. But it'll be to.

[Mike]

He's never gonna stop.

[Izzo]

It's.

[Mike]

There's so many variables.

[Tyler]

I. I like it. Yeah.

[Dominic]

I think the biggest issue here though is that, you know, we look at mom Donnie and we go like, oh, he's. He's an idiot. You know, he should go on these calls. He's not an idiot. He's getting exactly what he wants.

[Mike]

This is exactly what he'll be reelected. That's a reelection speech.

[Dominic]

He wants to be reelected. He wants to be in power. He wants as much chaos as possible. He wants to go ahead and tar and feather the guys wearing the badge because that makes him look good.

[Mike]

That's what I've always said is that a agency, the men of men and women of an agency can't sway an election. Proof my. Most of my agencies didn't support the sheriff last election. This nobody. The union might not have supported this guy. He knows it doesn't matter if I have the cops on my side. You're not going to sway an election with just cops. So they don't have to listen. They do whatever they want. So it's just make the public happy. I'll get reelected. I use my buzzwords. Mental health crisis, nobody's have to deal with. You're right. Nobody. No. The mom should never have to worry about seeing her son get shot. In a perfect world, it would never happen.

[Tyler]

It's awful.

[Mike]

It's awful. And I feel terrible for all and for them to speak right out about the cops. It's like again, Tate, remove that and put paramedics in there. Dude opens the door and there comes a goblin. Like, what does the paramedic do? Hit him with plastic glove. Hit him with gloves. Throw some. Throw some oxygen at him. Like, what is he gonna do? What is he gonna do?

[Tyler]

No, they're gonna.

[Mike]

They're gonna go outside and call the police. And now you gotta even more.

[Tyler]

And here's the thing. That guy locks onto you right out of him. He's mentally ill. He locks on you. Who's to stay? He's Myers. He ain't gonna stop until he stabbed you. He's gonna follow you outside.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

EMS could have just been running down the road.

[Dominic]

You could run back to your car and if you accidentally hit him with your car, it's okay because then you're. You're just trying to flee and get away.

[Tyler]

No, I mean, but you would be able to legally hit him with your car.

[Dominic]

Yeah, well, my. I was going back to the whole like the girl that got shot by the cops because she was getting in her car, trying to drive away.

[Mike]

Minutes.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

So imagine, imagine, imagine flip this out. Everybody rewind, rewind. Pretend we didn't see that video. Imagine cops walk up to the door, they see the guy at the knife to make a hard call and they're like, nope, nope, when we go outside. And then mom gets stabbed to death. Yeah, you guys should have gone in and killed that guy.

[Izzo]

He's a killer.

[Tyler]

You know what I was thinking about the other day? Remember that video of the cop that shot that girl that was about to stab another girl on the car outside? Yeah, yeah. And everybody was mad at the cops and every. The logic just leaves the room. Like, is he supposed to let her stab her? Like it was a fist fight brawl that happens sometimes with certain demographics on the street. And yeah, he showed up. And all of a sudden she displays.

[Mike]

A knife, starts charging it goes to.

[Tyler]

Kill her and the cop shoots her. And everybody's mad at the cop and he's like, what am I supposed to do?

[Dominic]

I, I mean, at this point, I mean, I, I think that, you know, if, if you are going to use lethal force. I mean, remember the. Maybe we should be looking at the cops in, in England. I mean, like, they're not armed. They don't have that, that power.

[Mike]

Way worse. It's way worse over there.

[Dominic]

Yeah, I mean, maybe we should just take all the guns from the cops and, or, or you can have your guns, but you have to wait till somebody actually dies. Maybe that's what we should do.

[Tyler]

They'll just blame the cops.

[Dominic]

Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm being facetious here.

[Mike]

You can't win. It's a job you can't win. It's unfortunate, but you can't win. You do too much what they deem as too much, which is this. People think this is too much. You shut the door and leave and they're going to go, what do you mean you didn't do anything? You didn't do anything. Mom got stabbed. Well, what do you want me to do? Which one's right?

[Dominic]

It didn't used to be that way. I mean, we used to have TV shows called Cops where we watched law enforcement guys beat the snot out of criminals high speed chases. And we were like, yeah, this is awesome.

[Izzo]

Prime time.

[Tyler]

Prime time tv.

[Dominic]

Ask me the popcorn. I want to watch the cops whoop the me.

[Mike]

Me and Dominic talked about that last night were right before Cancel culture happened in 2020, even live PD was hot. Everybody was loving cops still. Then they canceled Paw Patrol.

[Tyler]

It was George Floyd that did it.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Tyler]

They got. They got the Paw Patrol and then.

[Mike]

It slowly came back around, and now you have On Patrol Live again, back to showing cop stuff.

[Tyler]

But I don't think they had the backing of the production network that Live PD did. That was. They. Live PD was going to. To be the new cops.

[Mike]

If that was A E. They're back. Live PD's still there.

[Tyler]

Oh, really?

[Mike]

It's back.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's so. It was so sickening.

[Mike]

But they folded. They folded?

[Tyler]

Yeah. And it's offensive. It's offensive. Like, I don't give a. Dude, it's good entertainment.

[Mike]

I mean, it shows more.

[Dominic]

There's a reason why we have St. Jerry worms, okay? There's a reason.

[Tyler]

Thank Jerry.

[Mike]

Jerry's flying in on Sunday.

[Tyler]

I thought he said he was here.

[Mike]

No, Sunday he's flying in.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Dominic]

By the way, I gotta. I got a message from Brady P. He and I were gonna do some talking about some intel stuff, and he said, hey, bros, we caught a nasty suicide case this morning. Kid killed herself, and I'm still working it. So Brady's on the job right now.

[Tyler]

Does Brady know that you read that out loud?

[Dominic]

Yeah, yeah, he knows.

[Mike]

Okay, now he does.

[Tyler]

Now he does. Jimmy's like, oh, yeah.

[Dominic]

I mean, like, I'm trying to shout out my boy who's doing it.

[Tyler]

I know, I know. I just.

[Mike]

I command staff might not like that shout out.

[Dominic]

Oh, man, I'm so sorry, man. You're making me feel bad.

[Tyler]

I don't know. Brady might be cool with that. I just. I don't know if you asked.

[Dominic]

Yeah, well, I mean, he was just. He was just kind of going through it. I'm like, man, dude, like, what a. My point was to highlight, like, dude, like, this is a guy is in average. This is an average day, dude. Y average day. Brady's out there doing good, doing God's work, and. And, like, this is what he's got to deal with.

[Jimmy]

It sucks.

[Tyler]

And it's a routine call, bro. It's a routine call. But, yeah, we'll. We'll just wrap up this mom dummy thing. Do you guys. When's the next election?

[Izzo]

He just.

[Dominic]

He just got in, man, for all of them.

[Mike]

One day he'll stay.

[Tyler]

Does he have. I'm looking at the chat to see if somebody. Does he have. Do people like him?

[Mike]

The people do. Yeah.

[Tyler]

For what? What does he bring to the people?

[Mike]

Exactly what they're getting.

[Tyler]

I Can't see it. What is it?

[Mike]

Nothing we need to worry about right now.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

Yeah. So obviously one overwhelmingly. So he has that Islam support. He has support from those.

[Tyler]

I just don't know what he brings to the city. I know he talked about free transit.

[Mike]

Then they upped it.

[Tyler]

Then they.

[Mike]

From the original price.

[Tyler]

Can you imagine that, Jimmy? That's like, you say, hey, let me inside and I'll bring you food. And I go, okay, Jimmy's bringing food. And you walk in and go, actually, I'm taking your food and I'm staying here. Like, oh, that's not the deal, Jimmy.

[Mike]

He was gonna, he's gonna do all that stuff and pray I don't alter it anymore. Okay?

[Tyler]

Darth Vader. Jesus Christ.

[Mike]

Yep. Free bus rides turned into increased fare.

[Tyler]

That's insane. They all fell for it.

[Dominic]

I, I, I mean, anybody who knows anything about basic economics could have said that that wasn't gonna work.

[Mike]

No, because you have to pay the people. I mean, all that money, all that stuff, all the gas, like, what the.

[Dominic]

The train's just going to run. Buses are just going to run. What are they running on? Hopes and goddamn.

[Tyler]

I mean, at the, the easiest explanation for Mom Donnie's proposal is that taxes have to go up, like that stuff. Just like you said, it doesn't run for free. But people are so stupid already.

[Mike]

They're Remember, they're already not making money because all the people that jump the fairs anyway.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Half of New York just goes one thing, right? AOC advocated for it.

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Mike]

She's like, go ahead, just jump it. Like you have money for. Yeah, they, they've tried to increase, like, the security, but people just jump the turnstiles and open the exit door and everybody pours in. So they estimate they lose, like, hundreds of millions of dollars anyway by people not even paying.

[Tyler]

That's the hard part, man, because what do you do? I'm like, I want to, I want to be right. I don't want to do wrong. But I'm. Now if I'm paying, I'm gonna have to pay more per year as the prices increase because other people just jump it. And it's like, should I just jump it, too?

[Mike]

That's what I mean.

[Dominic]

There was a, there was a time that New York was a shining beacon of a city. And, and soon it will be a.

[Tyler]

80S action movie escape from New York. All right, so the next segment is somebody that we're bringing on named Ryan Miller. Now, you might recognize Ryan from some.

[Mike]

Of Don't Do Anything.

[Tyler]

But I recognize Ryan from the comments section. Ryan has critiqued us. Put it politely. Has critiqued us. He's. What would you say? He's gone at it in his own way. Yeah, I respect the game. That's what I do. I respect the game. And, uh. So, uh, don't I. All I know about him is that he's the United States Marine Corps vet. He got out of the Marines in 2002, and he. His mission is to help veterans. So I don't. I. Hey, man, if mission's the mission, we do it our way, somebody else does it. All right, but what we're gonna do first is bring up some of. I put those pictures. Yep. All those ones up there, the comments. Just so you guys know, this is. This is Ryan in our comments. And he's a. Well, that's Ryan right there. Right? That's. That's. That's his picture. So, Lewis, go to the Converse. No. Okay, that's also him. Lewis, you're going too fast. I'm watching you starting to freak out. There you go. Can you read that? I can't read.

[Mike]

It says you put border patrol in that situation. They put. They didn't ask for it. He responded. I didn't get to terrorize foreigners in Iraq nor Afghanistan, so I'm thirsty to terrorize Americans on the home front.

[Tyler]

All right, go to the next one. Lewis.

[Mike]

Lewis is scattered in today.

[Tyler]

Yeah, man, you scattered.

[Dominic]

Moving.

[Mike]

And I hear broadcast. Letting Jimmy cook this bozo is why we have work.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Mike]

All right, go ahead. Next one.

[Tyler]

Lewis.

[Dominic]

I don't remember what I said.

[Tyler]

I don't either.

[Mike]

Maximum capacity.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna give you five seconds, Lewis, to just reset, reboot, bang your head.

[Mike]

On the table as hard as you can, and then just get it back together.

[Tyler]

ICE agents call for backup and are denied by Chicago. I remember posting that.

[Mike]

Ice. Something tells me you love Zach Brown. And then that. That's it.

[Tyler]

All right, and then I think there's two more. I just did a quick, like, look at what I could find.

[Dominic]

What did I say? I'm curious.

[Tyler]

You're. I. You're.

[Mike]

Oh, this is the.

[Tyler]

Derek Chauvin said. He says Chauvin is why the police. Acab pig emoji.

[Mike]

All cops are bad.

[Tyler]

No, it's. All cops are bastards bad.

[Mike]

Well, either one. It's bad or bastards. I was always bad. Special Forces refers to Green Berets. He writes, that's exactly was the last time the Green Berets liberated the oppressed.

[Tyler]

Okay, so to be fair, that's a really, really old one.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

I just.

[Mike]

I went to 34 weeks.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Who's going to tell these guys that? Not Alpha. I was told that a lot.

[Tyler]

I said, I. There was a lot of replies that.

[Mike]

When I. I replied, remove all the pictures, Lewis.

[Tyler]

I replied, I. I'm so Alpha. I ate all the Alphas. All right, let's bring them on. What's up, Ryan? Can you hear us?

[Ryan Miller]

Yes. Can you hear me?

[Tyler]

Yep. Got you, man. Hey, man, first off, I really appreciate you coming on. You know, a lot of. We like to hear opposing viewpoints and a lot of people will talk a lot of stuff and then they will never. Come on, never talk to us, even on the phone, off the air. So the fact that you made time out of your day, I know you've got other obligations in about 25 minutes, but just wanted. It just wanted to touch base in front of everybody with you. Like I said, I. I respect the game. I respect the hustle. Hey, and I've always said, if you're not going to make waves, no one's going to notice you're there.

[Ryan Miller]

Brilliant. Thank you so much. And I'm really excited to be here. I'm also a bit nervous and maybe some fear in there. I didn't sleep too good last night. So let's get it. But what I will say, because I am in occupied Yellow Mo, which is also known as San Francisco, California, and I've gotten cited for jumping the subway system out here, and I think it's curious that in the wealthiest nation in the history of the world that public transportation is not free.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, you can make that argument. I would agree.

[Dominic]

I mean, I. I could think of a lot of things that my tax dollars are going to. That I would rather I don't. Yeah, I'm good with that. I mean, I think again, I think we're in violent agreement in a lot of things. It's just that there I think we have a very big difference of opinion on, like, law and order and the way that it's got to get done. And the social contract, that's enforced by forced. That's the operative word in force.

[Tyler]

So, Ryan, you're a Marine. Do you. Do you denounce being a Marine or do you regret your service in the Marine Corps? Or do you. Or do you embrace that as your past?

[Ryan Miller]

I think like a lot of anti war veterans, I do leverage that identity to, you know, basically bring attention to certain causes. What I will say is that I've abjured the oath of enlistment that I took when I was like 17 before my brain was fully developed to understand, like, the implications of that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, I know I didn't start looking into the Department of State and Paul Bremer and Iraq until probably two years after I got out of the Army. You know, that's when I really started educating myself on what actually happened. And then, you know, this show goes down. Rabbit holes and conspiracy theories and all, but just staying at face value. We didn't need to be in Iraq. I don't, I, I personally, that's my opinion. We didn't need Afghanistan's another argument. And one could say, but after about a couple years, did we need. I mean, I guess the war machine needs to keep turning and people are going to profit from that. So again, violent agreement. I got many things.

[Dominic]

I got, I got more stuff about, you know, Raytheon today too. I mean, you know, again, we're, we're not really left or right. We're sort of purple, man. So, I mean, and it's really easy to paint us in a specific picture. And I understand that. I mean, especially when, you know, we cut things and it's like, these guys are freaking knuckleheads. But the reality is, is that, you know, for us, I mean, a lot of us enjoyed the job, we enjoyed the, the rush. And you know, there isn't a problem with that. If you have a problem, it's not with the enforcers. You have problems with the people who are telling us to enforce things.

[Ryan Miller]

I think it's both. And, you know, I think that, you know, our culture has shifted so far from this mythology of the spit on Vietnam veteran. Right. That the pendulum is swung in all the way in the other direction where veterans have become this sacrosanct, untouchable portion of the population that's completely beyond reproach. And I think there's this, you know, notion to separate the warrior, the honorable warrior from the dishonorable war. And I think that there's like, unintended consequences of harm from that.

[Tyler]

Man, you, you're really well spoken.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're.

[Tyler]

I'm half a. So I'm trying to keep up with you, but.

[Ryan Miller]

Well, I mean, the word we use now is called developmentally delayed, but that's another conversation.

[Tyler]

Fair enough, fair enough. And yes, like, like Jimmy pointed out, we go at things like we, we crop our reels and we crop our clips to be catchy, somewhat offensive a lot of the time. So it makes sense when someone like you does your commenting on at face value. I, I get it. That's why I'M saying I love the game, you know, and had you not made those comments and been persistent about it, we wouldn't be talking right now.

[Ryan Miller]

I will admit I am probably one of these chronically online people that spend too much time in the comments section, but I do think in the information age, this is like the front lines of the culture war. And listen, like, when I first got out of the Marines and I was a boot civilian, I was a right wing, conservative, patriot loving, like, fella. So, like, I understand like the indoctrination and the propaganda machine that we're all like, really survivors of. I'll say. Because we don't like the victim mindset. And so, yeah, there's a lot of work to do to unlearn a lot of that.

[Dominic]

So how long. How long were you in the Marine Corps for?

[Ryan Miller]

4 years, 98 to 02. Active duty on 9 11.

[Dominic]

Yeah, yeah, I was. I was a basic training on 911. So I'm guessing you didn't get the chance to deploy.

[Ryan Miller]

I spent the majority of my enlistment deployed. I have like three sea service deployment ribbons. I was in Okinawa, Japan, Brunai, Bali, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, Hong Kong, Australia and Korea twice in those four years.

[Dominic]

Let me, let me.

[Ryan Miller]

Those aren't real deployments.

[Dominic]

The gwat. No, they're. I mean, for the gwat guys, I'm gonna tell you right now, they're not. And I mean, like, I'm just being frank with you. You could like it or hate it, but that's the culture deployments. When I say, and I say, did you deploy? I mean, did you go to Iraq and Afghanistan and did you go, you know, go to the two way live fire?

[Ryan Miller]

I love this, this question, right? Because it's what I've been faced with. Like, my entire veteran experience, right, Is like I named off all these countries, right? And I was.

[Dominic]

Or I could name a bunch too. I mean that. I've been to a lot of places too.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So, Ryan, you bring up a great point that we always talk about all the time, is the fact that it is. Well, you didn't go and shed blood, so you're not a real warrior. And there's guys that really. There's a form of. It's not really ptsd, but it's been medically diagnosed. Guys that wanted to go overseas and they didn't get the chance to. And now, like you said, they're almost denounced from the veteran community because they didn't get a chance, even though they signed the dotted line. And. But my Question to you before we move into everything that you're doing for the veteran community is do. Did it. Was it just the Marine Corps that that kind of made you start all this stuff? Because obviously the. What I'm getting at is like, you know, you kind of give off like a PTSD type thing, but was it just a military lifestyle that changed you and then you reverting back to civilian life that's why you did it, or kind of explain all that?

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Ryan Miller]

I'm not sure where you get the PTSD type thing, and I don't know if podcast diagnoses are necessarily appropriate, but what I will say is that, you know, this whole Pogue non combat shaming that our culture is known for is probably an under discussed form of fratricide because it is non combat, non infantry troops that are self harming at greater rates than the infantry and special forces folks. However, the majority of the resources and nonprofits are pandering to the special forces and infantry community. So there's a huge disparity there.

[Tyler]

Do you think that if you had gotten a couple kills under your belt, you'd be a happy dude right now and totally fine, or do you think it's because you didn't get any combat time that.

[Ryan Miller]

Yeah, you know, for the majority of like my 20s after I got out, I was filled. Especially when Pat Tillman was killed. He's also from the Bay Area, and I went to his funeral. I felt a lot of guilt.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Ryan Miller]

That I didn't do enough. I had this inadequacy narrative.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ryan Miller]

Because I didn't have any kills under my belt. Right. And that guilt manifested itself as like alcoholism and excessive pornography use and even like ripping out my toenails at one phase of my life. Yeah. And then like psychedelics really helped me kind of cure that in a unique way. So that guilt has converted to gratitude that I did not stain the honor of my lineage with complicity and participation in these morally bankrupt interventions and occupations for the military industrial complex.

[Tyler]

Okay, fair enough. I think we agree on like 80% of the stuff, man. So what do you do now? You sent me so much stuff. I watch most of the YouTube videos. You're. You're very good public speaker. But what are. What. Who are the people that you are trying to target? Not the right word. Reach and offer, you know, kind of like the, the things that you offer.

[Ryan Miller]

Like you said, dude, I think that we probably do agree on vastly more than we do disagree about. And I think it's through these conversations like this that we Might learn, grow, heal, arrive at some agreements and consensus. And so I spend a lot of time kind of infiltrate, agitate, educate, organize. Right? So I infiltrate the bro vet communities. I'm a member of a couple of different bro vet writing groups.

[Dominic]

Brother, don't take this the wrong way. I don't think anybody feels like you're infiltrating. I think they know exactly who you are. I'm just being honest.

[Ryan Miller]

No, it's all good. And you know, what's a trip, man? Because I've been in this game for several years and there's been bro vets that have DMed me after like years and were like, hey, man, I'm sorry, everything that you said turned out to be true, you know, and so, hey, this might be true for some of your listeners also. I'll be waiting.

[Tyler]

What are you. So what are the things that you suggest or organizations that you work with that for anybody suffering from any type of ailment that is brought on by military service? So let's start there. Just because, I mean, people will say the lifestyle change of aggressive bootstrapping from what I was and then going back it my life up it everything up it, my values up it me as a person up. I wasn't. I didn't know what I was getting into. And so I've heard that from many, many, many people. And so are you suggesting, like I saw, like, for instance, you, you're a big advocate for legalizing marijuana. True. And I really, to be honest with you, it doesn't, it doesn't really impact me at all because I'll never do it. And I don't care if Jimmy does it right there. Like, it doesn't.

[Ryan Miller]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Is there, do you think that there's more to the legalization of marijuana than we're led on to believe?

[Ryan Miller]

Absolutely. And if you're really curious about this topic, I'll recommend the new Jim Crow. Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander really like massively shifted my worldview. You know, I thought that folks in prison were there because they deserved it and they just made bad decisions.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ryan Miller]

But this film, I heard the, the phrase law and order in this podcast and this is like often a dog whistle for basically racist policies because it is the black and brown folks that are filled in our prisons for non violent drug offenses.

[Tyler]

So the democratic system that put them in there.

[Ryan Miller]

Absolutely. And I am not a democrat, comrade.

[Tyler]

Okay. That's another thing I really wanted, I wanted to nail down so we're easier for Me to say, just easier when we talk about a liberal. Right. You know what I'm saying? You don't identify as one, I'm sure, but you get what I'm saying. Kind of the hippie ish, Peace, love, everybody could get together. Socialism in theory could work, right? Something like that. But yeah, and then there's the conservative guys, the bootlickers, the law and order, you know, and so just you seem to be kind of like the. The more liberal.

[Ryan Miller]

No, further. Further left of liberal. So I'm a Marxist. I'm a socialist. I'm a feminist. Absolutely.

[Tyler]

I'm a. I'm a. I didn't want.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

I'm a copy.

[Ryan Miller]

Absolutely. And I love, like, arguing, you know, economics with landless peasants that want to, like, you know, root for billionaires. So I'm available.

[Mike]

What. So I agree with that. Rooting for billionaires. So what is your mission, though? What? Like, like, obviously we. I again, I think we agree on a lot more things. We come off a little bit more rightish and we obviously have an audience that we talk to. And I am pro police. I am obviously was a cop for years. I'm also. Didn't serve at war, so I went. I was in the military and didn't go to war. So we're on the same team there. And I think my service is just as good as anybody else's.

[Dominic]

The loser team.

[Mike]

I signed up. I signed up to do a job by. By nature. There was no economic war that needed to be fought when I was in. So I got out and so I. I don't ever worry about the feeling I have that I didn't go to war. I'd signed the same contract everybody else did. I did my part. I became a cop. But what.

[Jimmy]

What.

[Mike]

How could we help? How do we help? What is the. What is the goal for us to, you know, besides, we're not alphas and all that stuff? What, what is the goal for, you know, help?

[Ryan Miller]

This is a really good question. And I've been involved in veteran suicide prevention for. This is like my 13th year, and I facilitated like 1800 free social support groups and redistributed hundreds of pounds of cannabis for free. And this work has informed me that, you know, cannabis is fantastic. Psychedelics are really, you know, progressive and, like, exciting. And there's simply fancy band aids if we don't solve the morally bankrupt forever wars. Right. We got to, like, go further upstream and look at. Why are veterans so desperately searching these, you know, progressive healing modalities. And I think you Know, what's really curious is like, the bro vet community seems to really be kind of waking up to this last 20 years of just wasted lives and resources for, you know, the Zionist myth of weapons of mass destruction. Bin Laden was in Pakistan.

[Mike]

Oh, Pakistan.

[Ryan Miller]

You know, bin Laden was in Pakistan, not Afghanistan. I recently heard that OEF was a 20 year U. S. American heroin colony. And I was thinking about it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, well, I know what that is. Okay. What, Ryan? What did you say it was?

[Ryan Miller]

OEF was a 20 year US heroin colony.

[Dominic]

I'm piggyback on that. Remember we talked about the opioid crisis and how it started after we got going into Afghanistan? Yeah, I mean, we're.

[Mike]

We're.

[Dominic]

We're hippies more than anything else.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I missed the heroin part. That's what I was trying to hear. Okay.

[Ryan Miller]

And I'm not a hippie. Hippies are more kind of right wing, new age, like, self oriented people that sort of cherry pick different spiritualities from around the world to make themselves feel different. So not a fan of hippies, but that's enough.

[Tyler]

Well, we're Christians, so. Oh, we lost him. Hold on. Wait, where'd he go?

[Dominic]

Dude, we did not kick you, bro.

[Ryan Miller]

Hello, I'm back.

[Tyler]

Oh, you're back.

[Dominic]

You're back.

[Mike]

Your v. Your video is not there.

[Tyler]

Yeah, can you hear us?

[Ryan Miller]

Yeah, you sound like Alvin and the chipmunks, though.

[Mike]

Yeah, we don't have your audio. I mean, we don't have your video.

[Tyler]

I tell you what, can you back out of this and come back in? Okay, so far. I mean, like I said, I. I.

[Dominic]

Mean, aside from the communism thing, like, I can't, I can't, I can't.

[Tyler]

All right, he's it. All right, he's back. There he is.

[Mike]

Good.

[Ryan Miller]

And we're back.

[Mike]

Check, check. Good.

[Tyler]

And now are you. So are you. Are you having to use your. Your evil capitalist iPhone for this or. Damn it. He didn't even hear the jab.

[Mike]

I'm just.

[Dominic]

Oh, my God. I mean, first of all, really interesting conversation and is he back? I keep hearing a beep.

[Tyler]

Yep, he's back. Okay, check. Now radio check, check. Here, put the camera on me loose. Can y' all hear me?

[Mike]

Yep.

[Ryan Miller]

Yeah, I can't hear you. Listen, the feds, they don't want anti war veterans and bro vets to talk to each other, so they sabotaged our conversation.

[Tyler]

Man, you bet you. You can't hear us. All right, well, we'll keep talking.

[Mike]

I mean, I'd be like, conversation with.

[Dominic]

My man, he's froze. I mean, he's froze. Get.

[Jimmy]

You should go.

[Dominic]

My kids.

[Tyler]

I mean. Okay.

[Mike]

Can you hear us?

[Tyler]

You can hear him?

[Mike]

Check, check.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we can hear you.

[Dominic]

We can hear you.

[Mike]

Can't see you.

[Ryan Miller]

Nothing.

[Tyler]

No. All right. I like it. Yeah. I like this conversation.

[Mike]

I do too.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I think first off, he gets it. He's like our. He's like our Mike Rapapore at Barstool Sports. Yeah, he gets it. We have to have. I want to bring him on once a week, at least get him his own show on counterculture. We need people to argue with. We can't be a think tank.

[Dominic]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we. You're right. I mean, and he doesn't get.

[Tyler]

But hurt. That's at least the. What's the.

[Mike]

I want to get to that part. And then we didn't get to it.

[Tyler]

So maybe I'll come back on hopefully. Yeah.

[Mike]

Poking a little bit about the comments. Yeah.

[Dominic]

I mean, we're. I mean, hey, first time it was we gave you the kid gloves. You're. Next time you come on, you might get smacked around a little bit.

[Mike]

So I like it.

[Dominic]

I'm good with it. I mean, I mean, the comment. The, the first of all, gonna make for great reels. Gonna make for.

[Tyler]

I'm a communist. You know, I didn't want to put words in his mouth. That's why I. No, I'm trying to misidentify him.

[Dominic]

No, he, He. It said comrade right in his thing. I was like, oh, this guy's a communist.

[Izzo]

Okay, cool.

[Tyler]

Wait, it said it in his. Yeah, it said.

[Dominic]

It said he him, comrade.

[Izzo]

I was like, he's got his.

[Tyler]

Oh, he had. I didn't even see that.

[Dominic]

Oh, my God.

[Tyler]

What's the point of he him if you are a he him? What's the point of letting people know?

[Dominic]

I think you're just more showing that you're. I don't know. Let him explain it. But maybe you're like a, an ally.

[Tyler]

Like a male feminist.

[Mike]

No, just you acknowledging that people use pronouns.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. We had a super chat. Am Lumber. Good morning, guys.

[Mike]

This one up there too.

[Tyler]

We did, yeah.

[Mike]

There's an orange one we missed.

[Tyler]

No, that I'm reading it now.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Thoughts on. On for top one. Lewis, Thoughts on four year contracts on four year contracts for police to serve as an objective quality control measure for physical fitness.

[Mike]

Amazing. Amazing. Love it. Like a military enlistment. Yeah, I love it.

[Tyler]

I, I. Because I really do think that I've said this before. That'll change the culture in law Enforcement. If people don't. If people don't rely on it as a retirement. If we treat it as a military enlistment. I joined the Army. I did four and a half years active duty knowing I was not going to stay. I was doing. I was a one hit quit. I was just gonna go do one term and be done with it. And. And I feel like if people, you know, the same amount of training goes into becoming a soldier too. People argue, well, it takes a year to fully train a cop before. Okay, it took. It took six months to train me to where they let.

[Dominic]

Took longer than six months. Realistically, when you consider how much training.

[Tyler]

You had to get at the same thing.

[Mike]

And what would be good for that is for what you just said. Guy gets two years in and goes this. I got two years left and I'm out. What does he have now? Have motivation to do find another job and start preparing for that job. Versus I hate this job. And I'm gonna go in every day.

[Dominic]

Yeah, but the retention guy's gonna be like, what are you gonna do when you get out?

[Tyler]

Forces admin to change culture, correct? Yeah, it forces them to. They don't have a pool of people that they can just be like, ah, you know, and like, like I said, the training. And then when you want to become a detective.

[Mike]

He's back.

[Tyler]

You re enlist. Yes.

[Mike]

For detective. I think you model it after the military.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Okay. Ryan.

[Ryan Miller]

Hello?

[Mike]

Can you hear me?

[Dominic]

Yeah, we can hear.

[Ryan Miller]

All right. Bang, bang. Sorry about that.

[Tyler]

It's okay. You got to pay your phone bill, bro.

[Dominic]

I switched to my phone.

[Ryan Miller]

What's the. Where were we? Pick me up.

[Tyler]

Mike had a question for you.

[Mike]

Yeah, Obviously the jabs in the comments is that I. I love it, by the way. We're all. We're betas, but we like it. Is that part of obviously trying to just get noticed so you can get the message out? Because that's kind of what I spin as well.

[Ryan Miller]

I have.

[Mike]

I twist some of my views a little bit to make sure it's entertaining, not completely abandon them. Is that what you're doing? Is that kind of what you're. You're there, or do you really think I'm a fan?

[Ryan Miller]

There's nothing wrong with being gay.

[Mike]

Cab boot licker.

[Tyler]

How about that?

[Ryan Miller]

Listen, my pronouns are he and we and comrade. And if you just came out to us, I want to, like, acknowledge that that is really sacred. Like, thank you so much.

[Mike]

I don't have a problem with it at all. Whatever you do is love it. But honestly, is that part of, like.

[Ryan Miller]

Your, you know, agitate, educate, organize is the blueprint, you know, and along the way, I get educated also.

[Izzo]

Good.

[Ryan Miller]

And I do, you know, it is a kind of a fine line between trying to like, disrupt the propaganda narrative that a lot of us uplift with like, dehumanization language like terrorists. What the hell is an insurgent if it's not to obfuscate legitimate indigenous resistance to invasive extraction and occupation. Right? So I think disrupting the narrative, especially in this, like, hyper jingoistic, you know, military worship nation that we're a part of any sort of.

[Dominic]

Brother, you. You talk about jingoism, but, man, you threw out a bunch of them at us. So I mean, like, I'm gonna have to push back to. And he's gone. God damn you.

[Tyler]

Right? You didn't get to finish it because you cut him off.

[Mike]

I'm sorry.

[Dominic]

But like, I. I know.

[Ryan Miller]

Well, you know, I am an ASVAB commando, so I do have a vocabulary.

[Tyler]

ASVAB commando. I like it. Dude, you're black.

[Mike]

Again, not the color black. You're just black.

[Tyler]

Oh, my God. Ryan's doing black face. How dare you. We can't see you, but we can hear you. Ryan, can you hear us?

[Ryan Miller]

Yes. The feds do not want us to do this.

[Izzo]

That's okay.

[Tyler]

As long as we can hear you, we're fine. I don't like seeing men with long hair anyways. It makes me uncomfortable. So your girl does that. So are you ever. You should. You should start some kind of platform. You're very well spoken. You actually can have conversation. Clearly, you know, you don't get offended at all with people speak their opinion. You're very. What would you call that? Witty.

[Mike]

I think it's great. I think it's a great conversation sub. And we actually, in one of the three times that your socialist phone bill disconnected you. We. We think you'd be great as like a regular guest if that's something you wanted to explore as, you know, like a spin on anything we talked about the last week or your opinion or your version of it. I think it's very good to generate conversation with everybody, regardless of what side they stand on.

[Ryan Miller]

I really appreciate that invitation and I was kind of like thinking about that even before I came on, you know, because I think this conversation is so valuable in this sort of really polarized, you know, moment that we're having in this country. And you know what? Like, I think it's okay to be polarized, especially in this, this mask off moment where both you Know, conservatives and liberals are sort of aligned with fascism, and so we need to have opposition to fascism. It's super important.

[Mike]

I agree. Yeah.

[Dominic]

Thank you.

[Mike]

I think it's great. I think it's great to discuss it from all sides. And, you know, I think we. You hear things that you maybe didn't hear a certain way in a very calm conversation. It's never going to get done in the comments of Instagram. It's just not possible. Possible. I think that's why I always suggest people come on and talk, because once we're talking, it makes a lot more sense. Voice inflection, the way we're saying it, what we really mean is very important in conversation. I always argue when you're an Instagram comment, you don't read anything the other person wrote. You just write in the next thing that popped in your head. So I really appreciate you coming on. I think it's a great idea to continue this relationship and have these conversations.

[Ryan Miller]

Hey, you know what's unfortunate, though? Like, so many of your listeners will see pronouns detected, opinion discarded.

[Mike]

Let him talk, man.

[Dominic]

You know that.

[Izzo]

Degenerates.

[Tyler]

I see that.

[Mike]

I.

[Tyler]

Honestly, Ryan, if I. Outside of. Outside of this effective communication that we're purposely doing, I would totally 100 avoid you if I saw him.

[Dominic]

Just.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Which, I mean, you probably wouldn't sit and listen to locker room boot liquor talk. Just not your preference.

[Ryan Miller]

But you know what? I'm a former bootlicker. You know what I'm saying? So I know the flavor of that shoe polish. And so, like, I've been there. It's. So I'm in recovery, and if there's hope for me, there's. There's hope for y', all, too.

[Tyler]

Well, hey, I know. Oh, go ahead.

[Mike]

I appreciate it, man. I think that's great.

[Tyler]

And I know you guys.

[Ryan Miller]

One question, though, before I. I dip.

[Tyler]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ryan Miller]

If. If any of y' all were in the Marines. I'm not. I'm not sure. But, you know, in boot camp, we are. We are forced to learn about Smedley Butler and his two medals of honor. And I'm curious. Well, my question, though, my question is, why don't they teach us that? He was also an anti imperialist and voted socialist.

[Dominic]

And wrote the book wars of Racket.

[Tyler]

Yep. Yeah, it doesn't fit their narrative, bro.

[Ryan Miller]

Thank you. Thank you, comrades.

[Tyler]

Hey, next time we have you on, we got to make sure we get video. So we'll.

[Izzo]

We'll pre.

[Mike]

We'll pre this. We'll work this out ahead of time. You and I can do that if you want. Copville. We'll work out, maybe talk a little bit so we can make sure everything's set up. Audio, video. We'll come up with a schedule to have you on regularly if that's cool with you.

[Ryan Miller]

Sounds great. Much love, gentlemen. No war. But class war.

[Tyler]

Remove, remove.

[Mike]

Run the break.

[Tyler]

You don't, you don't hang up on us. We hang up on you, Ryan. All right, we'll be right back with.

[Mike]

A quick commercial break.

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[Mike]

Hello, Diamond. Yeah, bring him in, Bring him in.

[Tyler]

There he is.

[Dominic]

The man, the myth, the legend.

[Izzo]

That's right, man.

[Mike]

Dominic, I want you to. So everybody hears because we watched the video in New York with the knife. What's your take on that video?

[Izzo]

Bad shooting.

[Mike]

No, no, no, no, you liked it.

[Izzo]

Oh, wait, my answer, it's a bad shooting because he waited to explain.

[Tyler]

He's like, oh, wait, what show am I on? Oh yeah.

[Izzo]

It was. He waited too long. It was a, it was a shooting he waited for.

[Mike]

I want people to hear that from you because everybody assumes you hate cops. You hate everything they do. You're always against it.

[Izzo]

This is a prime example about why I'm so harsh on cops. That shooting was 100 justified. It was a great shooting, lawful shooting. He waited too long. But I'm glad he didn't do the whole drop the knife and then make, you know, say it a hundred times before actually pulling the trigger. When. When we have so much sloppy, bad, abhorrent showcased non stop abysmal policing online and we don't criticize one another. Well, it takes away from the times when you're like, see, this is a good year. This is a good one. You need to back this up. The more harsh that you are on cops and go, listen, train harder. This is a bad one. You got to admit it's bad. Blah, blah. It's easier to defend them when they do something right. That's why it's like the whole the Renee good shooting. It. What blows me away is that it's not that other cops are defending it, that it was a lawful shoot. It's that they're defending it because they want that same type of backing. When they up like that and they get into a real shitty well, I want the same type of a defense. So if we would criticize more when it comes down to an awesome lawful shooting, people go, I have no problem with it whatsoever. Should be zero controversy.

[Mike]

I agree. And then in a, in the world of. And we always use athletes to base our salary. Athletes are paid billions of dollars and we should be paid well. Athletes also train video all week long and watch thousands of hours of tape to make sure they run the play just right. For what? Entertainment only? Why wouldn't cops who have the. Have the responsibility of taking someone's life and preserving innocent lives not spend the same amount of time and effort to go over things over and over again to make sure they get it right? Seems backwards. The cops argue that they want the millions of dollars that the athletes get, but do they put in the time, effort, training and, and repetitions that the athletes put in? I think it's a very easy answer. They don't. No.

[Izzo]

We were, we were delighted with VHS when I was a competitive wrestler. You know, it's a good word, Jimmy.

[Dominic]

It is a good word.

[Izzo]

It's delicious. Delighted. Delectable. I got some Ds, Jimmy, you want some D? When my dad would VHS record the wrestling matches, you went over it. You went over and over and over and over again just to watch you. I screwed up there. How did I miss that up? And it's like I would. I don't know why you would not do the same thing. Law enforcement's the only thing where you hear cheesy to armchair quarterback. You literally want to. I don't know why it's such a bothersome. Hey, dude, you up on that and you up on it bad.

[Tyler]

Okay, that's such a good point. No business consultants say that. No management team say that. Sports athletes don't say that. It's only. Even I would imagine firing ems go, how could we save that life? What could we have done to save that person? They died. Could we have done anything? Our law enforcement is the only people that go Monday morning. Quarterback.

[Dominic]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, and it starts with, you know, not lying on your after action.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Izzo]

Jimmy, debriefing in the military, how often do you guys do something all the time. Do not needle and nitpick to death.

[Dominic]

We did in the infantry, but apparently in the, the SEAL teams, that's not what happens.

[Tyler]

Even SWAT. I mean, I, my small stint on the SWAT team, I mean, it was, I mean, footsteps. All 12 dudes. After you do a run, you go through and you. And know everybody is subject to criticism.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

And how you could have done it better.

[Mike]

Yeah, we. And we would go back and watch our body cam.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And after every OP doing, we would do an after action verbal. Right after the operation. You couldn't go home. You came back. Even if it was nothing complete nothing, nothing happened, nobody was shot. You come back, you go over it and then we would watch it and then we would break it down and say, okay, you could have done this, you know that's the right thing to do. And cops are the only ones that can go I did everything I can do. I tried my hardest. And that we go on to the next call. You're right. Monday morning quarterbacking should be happening within the agency in an effective non discipline non. You're not trying to make somebody feel like you're just trying to make everybody better. And it should be a common practice and it's not.

[Dominic]

And there are times to make people feel like though there are but it.

[Izzo]

To get people better.

[Mike]

You're right. We should watch these videos over and over within the agency and it just doesn't happen. Doesn't happen. Guys will have an incident, it'll be whatever. The next time they see the video is at the state attorney hearing five months later and they're trying to remember what happened. Oh yeah, I remember that. And then the Monday morning quarterback is the catch all and it's not Monday morning quarterbacking, it's how do we make this profession better so that when we do have one that's on the fence we can go. Well we train the out of ourselves. We critique every video and yeah, this one we didn't factor in that XYZ happened and we'll look at that one next time. But we don't do it at all.

[Izzo]

No, nobody. Nobody does. Best shooting I have seen recently with a knife was on the west coast. I can't remember where, I think maybe Oregon where There was a 17 year old and everybody made a big deal about it because it was a 17 year old autistic kid with a knife.

[Dominic]

Right.

[Izzo]

And cops show up and these guys, it looked like they had been training forever and I don't think they were. They all pulled up on scene, they all walked up and their biggest claim was there was a. There was a chain link fence in the front yard. Yeah. Shooting was outstanding. They went right up on scene. They assessed the threat. They ended it immediately and they probably saved the lives of the women that were actually encased in there. That I was watching that going these guys have to train this.

[Tyler]

It was.

[Izzo]

It was great. I don't. But that, that's, that's the whole point with it. It's like when you it. That made it easy to defend and I took a lot of for that was a bad shooting. No, it was an awesome lawful justified shooting. And these guys did not half ass what they did. If we had more people Monday morning quarterback and critique it would make people so much easier to vehemently defend when it Came down time to do so.

[Mike]

And it would be effective. And in your. This profession, it is. You immediately become defensive. If anybody else that wasn't on the call even questioned, I don't know where it came from, either. Questions. I even questioned what I did. I immediately go, you can't. You weren't there. You don't know what I was doing.

[Izzo]

So dumb. You want me, you want me criticizing the. Out of you. You know, especially with the platform that I have and I'm gaining all this attention. You want me so critical because when it comes to defend. If I defend you this damn hard, it means that it was a really good job done. It's. It's not. It's not a bad thing to be like, yeah, I could have done that better. Because when it comes down to have a. A middle of the road, I'm middle of the road. I'll call you out when you're bad, and I'll praise you when you're good. You want that? Because then it's not, oh, he always defends cops. You want that Fair and balanced criticism, and cops just can't handle it.

[Mike]

I agree.

[Tyler]

Well, here's my opinion. I. I did that when I was a cop. I if walked up, I'm seeing if there was no stripes. Don't talk to me. Don't, Don't. Don't tell me that that is a. That is a rebellious streak in me that I've had since. Since I was a child. But. And I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying it was right, but I think the reason why is police work requires. Let's just say it. Call it as an alpha mentality, but it's. It's unchecked alpha. It's an unchecked pack of wolves. Let's just say that. I know we hate using that in swat. You have a rank structure and seniority that is beating your head. Military rank structure, seniority. I don't care. So it's one of those things in the military. You're dead. Your sergeant could be dead wrong. And you're just like, I'm not gonna argue, because that's how it is in law enforcement. Every. It's like a pack of, like, wolves running around, and everybody's the right. I'm right. No, no, you're not right. I'm right. There's no one to say, I'm squad leader. I've been doing this a long time, and I'm telling you what you did was wrong whether you like it or not.

[Mike]

Yeah, Proof of that is proof.

[Izzo]

Of that is anybody who ever teaches cops. And I'll tell you this, if anybody has ever. And it's specifically defensive tactics. We used to go around and we used to teach for a company called Neimert North East Regional Multi training out here in Illinois. And every time, every time that we would go do handcuffing classes, DT classes, whatever, cops show up to teach you what they know, not to learn what you're teaching them. I saw it a hundred times, I'm like, it's just a waste of time.

[Mike]

Trying to get through their heads. Other thing that we do when we go to training is we don't want to ever do any reps in front of anybody. Cops want to get in the very back of the line. They want to be the last one to go basic. Like, hey, just unload your weapon, get ready on the line. And they're like, oh God, I don't even know how to unload my gun. Let me go back here and watch everybody do it one time. Am I wrong? Like basic building clearing. Basic, basic, basic. You watch an entire group of people wither to the back to go let some. And then the guys who step up and are ready to do it, we're made fun of because we're s away. We're ready to go. What is he gonna shoot a good group from the 7 yard line? He's an, oh, look at you. It's the wildest I've ever seen. And then people will be more comfortable showing up and not even hitting a paper on their rifle. Like it's all over the place. They don't even hit the. And they're like, oh yeah, bird shot. Yeah, battery was dead on my optic.

[Dominic]

We shoot our a 410 shotgun or an air.

[Mike]

It's, it's the weirdest, weirdest, weirdest job where you can do it all wrong and somebody tries to help you and you can get mad at them for interjecting. You're not, you're not gonna interject in my call. You're not going to tell me what to do. It's like, okay, go ahead, keep doing it, keep doing it, you'll be fine.

[Izzo]

Who suffers?

[Mike]

The citizens.

[Izzo]

Correct.

[Dominic]

That's the problem.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Dominic]

Well, actually, in a roundabout way, the cops end up suffering too, because it's becomes easier and easier and easier to paint them as the bad guys that don't know what they're doing, that are dangerous to everybody because they don't do these things.

[Mike]

It's rough, man, it's rough. We should be prepared to be. We should do it in our office. Inner. Inner agency training on any critical incident. And I know, sounds crazy, right?

[Izzo]

Oh, Mike, you're gonna get up and give us a big speech. Mike.

[Mike]

They'll do it when they're ready. Like, it happened to me. They took my video and they went around the agency and said, oh, look at this, this bully. And it didn't go the way they wanted it to go. But that should be being done on most critical incident. Critical incidents. And it should be. Everybody should be allowed to watch it and have their own opinion. Not be forced to go, this was okay. This was okay. You better say it was okay. No, let's look at it. Let's say, how do we learn from this? What equipment could we do better? How could we stage better? How could we get more resources there better? It should always be open to that. And the fact that it's not is.

[Izzo]

The reason that requires that you have to acknowledge that it's okay for somebody to be better than you at something that's hard for guys to do it. Really. I had no problem. Like, again, I have a lot of glowing memories of the guys I worked with that were better at pistol skills than I was. I never said because my pistol skills sucked. So when they came up and said, hey, no, they just do this. You got it. Not gonna argue with. So it's.

[Tyler]

That's a. That's you not having an ego and wanting to realize that, oh, I'm not the best at everything. This guy's better than me. But you're also. It's called. It's not being insecure, right? Like, I can't. I'm gonna be bad at certain things when another grown ass man comes and goes, hey, do you want to learn how to do this? Like the gym. The gym is the ultimate. Like, you can tell when a dude's secure in himself when he'll take advice from another. At grown ass man. Yeah, he's bigger. Who's been doing it longer, who has more experience. The same thing. Cop work.

[Mike]

But the cop world, you can use your ego to just not take advice and not take any training. I'm cool. And you. Eventually those guys create such a storm around them that nobody will talk to them.

[Tyler]

They're like, yeah, let them keep it up. They're on day for 30 years. No specialty units, no nothing.

[Mike]

Let him keep it up. Like, I'm not gonna go near him. He'll just tell me how wrong I am, even though everything he did was wrong. But he'll Create such a nasty storm around him with his attitude that you just don't want to talk to them and.

[Izzo]

Amazing.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Izzo]

They're all on day shift. And when is. When is school in session? Day shift. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Well, half of them work as SROs too, and they don't.

[Dominic]

They're sitting in the school all day eating bear claws.

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

We don't have any. Other than that. We don't have any police shootings to break down. I know. Oh, Lewis, can you pull up one thing? So, ice, one of the recent apprehensions. Did you guys see this? It's.

[Dominic]

Is it the one that. That didn't end at a gunfight?

[Tyler]

No, this was an apprehension of.

[Izzo]

Was it tranny who called him the n word?

[Mike]

No, it was.

[Izzo]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Tyler]

I snabbed illegal immigrant New Orleans police recruit who was issued a firearm.

[Izzo]

Yes. Minneapolis has them. Illinois, Hanover park, which is about two towns over from me. They've got a guy who didn't renew his paperwork 10 years ago, and he's.

[Dominic]

We covered that guy.

[Izzo]

It's like, how. How can any. And he. He can't take his pistol home with him, but he can have it on the job. I don't understand it. I don't. It's the same thing as like. And I'm not trying to get political, but what the. Brian mast wearing an idf uniform in congress. I. I don't understand this at all. It's.

[Dominic]

I don't understand that one either. That one kind of pisses me off too.

[Izzo]

Oh, that should. That. That should completely offend you because it's.

[Dominic]

Just slap in the face to you.

[Izzo]

I don't understand an illegal immigrant being able to damage.

[Mike]

When you're done with that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you can remove that. And. And I mean, it goes back to like. I remember when LAPD announced that they were going to have their first class with a non U. S. Citizen in it. So you're. And you're gonna walk around and take people's constitutional rights away when you don't even have constitution? I guess you do have constitutional rights, but you're not an American citizen. It's not guaranteed. You understand them.

[Izzo]

How's. How's a. How's a American citizen supposed to even remotely comply to that? It's like, he's not. Are you. Are you here legally? Well, no. Why would I obey you? Absolutely not. It's the definition of domestic terrorism. And this is.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it is in this.

[Izzo]

And I had. I asked this question on a show the other day, and for the second amendment purposes and I'm only asking this to create the conversation. If you look at the Second Amendment, it talks about the right to keep and bear arms. We talk about it all the time. It is ownership and display. Nowhere that I could find does it ever talk about when to use them. But the definition of it is implied. To use it against a tyrannical government. Well, if you have cops, and this is just. I'm not endorsing this. Oh, you're saying shut the fuck up and listen. If you have cops who are going to illegally seize you and they're not even American citizens, doesn't that meet the litmus test of being able to use your Second Amendment?

[Mike]

Here it comes.

[Tyler]

At what point are we read dawn here?

[Dominic]

I mean, I think. Dominic, I think what you need to do is go back and read a lot of James Madison's letters, especially directly after the revolution when people were getting attacked by privateers and they were like, hey, can we buy cannons and put them on our ships? Protect ourselves from pirates? And he's like, yeah, dude, that's why I gave you the Second Amendment, so you had the ability to defend yourself from everything.

[Izzo]

I'm fine. Trust me. I'm a Second Amendment absolutist. I think if you want to own an Abrams tank, you should. I. I'd be jealous because I can't afford it. My point is, is. Well, you get all these Molan lobby guys flying their flags and. But they'll be the first ones when cops show up. They'll do okay. Yeah. Okay, you can come in. So, you know, I'll fight you in court. I'll fight you in court. That. So when do we use it if it's not to have illegal seizures on the street, which fits the literal definition of domestic terrorism?

[Dominic]

Well, I. I think that. I mean, you have to be very damn sure, because remember, when. When you go ahead and cross that Rubicon, you re. It's victory or death. So how do.

[Izzo]

So somebody who knows, like, police tactics. If or by some chance I'm. I'm. Again, this is a scenario for entertainment purposes only. If the FBI is listening. If I happen to have in my car a monitoring device like a camera all over my car, and I know that I am not breaking any law. I drive 25 and a 25. I took three seconds at a stop sign to stop all this stuff, but then the red and blues pop over and I get ordered to step out of the car, and there is no probable cause whatsoever. Look, it's just for the sake of conversation. Does that mean I should just willfully submit to having my handcuffs put in handcuffs. Because we have to trust that the cop who's got subpar training, who the standards were so lowered to have all these DEI hires in that they actually observed a crime that they could stop me for. Or is it. No, you're kidnapping me. And I'm going to use my second amendment against you because I can articulated if, if, if it turns out I am lawfully justified, the cop illegally seized me, will I be protected or am I going to jail regardless?

[Dominic]

Oh, man. I mean, that is an interesting thought.

[Mike]

You got a co host with him, you answer Nick.

[Tyler]

Nick.

[Mike]

This is Nick's big argument with Dom.

[Tyler]

Oh, about that?

[Mike]

Yeah, basically, Dom.

[Tyler]

The problem is, Dom is like if you cut out anything outside of what you just said, long form, it says, I believe you should shoot the cops if you don't want to go to.

[Izzo]

Jail, who don't listen. And they literally, they're willing to sit there and flex gun, go to the range, all this stuff, but they never have the conversations about when is it okay or when is it acceptable. If you look and we're talking strictly on what ICE is able to do, as far as I know, I. I'm under the oppression. ICE does not have any authority over American citizens. It is extremely easy to articulate obstruction, impediment. Oh, look, you were jumping up and down and it impeded my vision of a target. So I could take you into custody. If that recent shooting with Petty or Pretty or whatever his name is was an illegal seizure, they had no lawful authority to stop him. No lawful authority to the spray pepper spray in his face to disarm him. Does that not fit the definition of the exact time that the American people should use arms against a tyrannical government? Now, if you want to hear and say, well, that means Izzo says you should use deadly force against cops, that's because you got cottage cheese for brains. I'm asking a legitimate question that no one brings up. Hey, we got the second Amendment. When do we use it? That's a question?

[Dominic]

Yeah, I mean, I, I think the. Ostensibly the biggest part of the argument is always about when the government becomes tyrannical, not when the individual law enforcement officer becomes tyrannical. But, but his, his point is fair. I mean, it's an interesting thought experiment. The, that is the real question is when do we decide enough is enough?

[Izzo]

Was January 6th. If we can prove that the. The election was stolen, was that a time to use it? And if so, who do we use it against? Because when we say the government. That's a boogeyman.

[Tyler]

Who.

[Izzo]

Who are you going after with the Second Amendment?

[Mike]

Yeah, I think that's a. I, I and I like the point you make and that, you know, Tyler clipped it and it sounded great like for everybody wanted to get crazy in that clip.

[Tyler]

Dom never said I advocate.

[Mike]

So we all say we want our second Amendment because we got to protect ourselves from the government. You're right. When is. When is that? When is that? When do we kick that in?

[Izzo]

So red flag your ex girlfriend there and is pissed off at you and she calls 911 because you played some sad song on your YouTube video and that means you're gonna off yourself and the cops show up to force entry into your home to seize your guns. Fourth amendment violation. Second Amendment.

[Tyler]

I never agreed with that. That one's the red bride.

[Izzo]

Laws are, are wrong in court again. I don't want this ever done. What I would prefer is cops being smart enough to. When this comes up at roll call, somebody has the balls to go, hey, Sarge. Yeah. We can't do this. This is a constitutional violation of their, their fourth Amendment. But we don't have that because we don't have cops who study the Constitution.

[Mike]

I agree. We can't figure out. We. We see it all the time. And I bring Sean Paul Reyes up all the time a lot. They don't even know trespassing laws. They don't even know when and when they can see somebody and not see somebody. And to argue, that's a month. There you go. There's your money. Morning, quarterback. All cops. And he said it in a video I was listening to yesterday where they were violating his rights. He said, you know, I come to agencies and we'll teach you about the First Amendment and when you can and cannot use it. But instead of saying, hey, you're right, man. Maybe I should use my. I'm cop.

[Tyler]

I tell you leave.

[Mike]

You don't leave, you go jail.

[Tyler]

Like, it's like he offers to come.

[Mike]

He does, you know, he does teaching. He does classes to teach for free. Yes. Well, I don't know if it's for free. I don't know the price I would pay for that.

[Tyler]

That's a good.

[Mike]

That's a good thing. That's my argument.

[Izzo]

Embarrassing that he's even getting people hiring him every.

[Tyler]

Why aren't the police right there? That right there. That's that, Dom. That's that, Dominic. That's a toxic. Oh, that's embarrassing that he's even getting. Cops are. If cops Go, dude, I'll pay for you.

[Mike]

I think what he's saying, the embarrassment is, is the fact that they're not learning at roll call or at, in their own inter.

[Izzo]

First Amendment. We're gonna spend two weeks on, on first Amendment.

[Tyler]

Auditors can't shoot. They gotta push them through the range, dude, they got, they got bigger.

[Mike]

They make sure they can pull that gun out and use it.

[Izzo]

Right.

[Mike]

They're not worried about that part. Make sure you can shoot and kill people. We'll teach about the Constitution later. Just make sure you can kill people.

[Tyler]

Right?

[Mike]

Am I wrong?

[Dominic]

I mean, I mean to be fair, I mean, we just had a guy get shot four times, didn't die. So I mean, maybe they can shoot.

[Mike]

Yeah, but I mean that's the combat shooting and all that, that was effective. It stopped the threat. But I, I think what I hear here is we're going to teach you how to shoot people. We're going to teach you how to crash cars. We're going to teach you, but we're not. You're not going to really understand when and when, when you can't see somebody legally on the street. That seems like something that should be pretty prioritized. Jimmy, out of the academy.

[Izzo]

I got a question, Jimmy. You think that it's the job of the cops when they shoot police or shoot citizens to kill them?

[Dominic]

I think if you're going to use lethal forces and you should do everything that you can to kill the person. Yes.

[Izzo]

Okay, that's.

[Dominic]

You have made the decision to, to utilize your weapon, then you should kill it and you should be willing to kill it. You should understand that because that's its job. Hold on, you're gonna get me started on a rant, Dominic. Pistols specifically have one job and one job only. Their job is to kill people. They don't kill animals, they don't kill birds.

[Tyler]

They don't.

[Dominic]

They, they, they are for killing human beings. So if you pull that Glock out and you point it at somebody, you better drill them and put them down and they better be dead. And if you do your job, I'm.

[Izzo]

Going to counter with you on this for law enforcement purposes. Now everything you just said, I believe that should apply for the military. I believe that if we go to war, military needs to wipe out every man, woman and living child and of an enemy that we've had. I think the Romans did it great. And that's how it should be. And, and news reporters, when it came down to like Vietnam War, they ruined warfare when it comes to cops. It's a different story. It's fourth amendment. It is due process, it's giving somebody court date. It is never the job of the cop to punish someone. And this is what a lot of people have a hard time dealing with. The purpose of deadly force is to terminate life threatening behavior. To terminate life threatening behavior. So that means you go up and, and a guy's got a knife to a kid's throat and you pump four rounds into him and it gets him to drop the knife and he goes down and you handcuff him and he lives, he gets court take you terminated. Life threatening behavior. If you say to a cop, or a cop says, understand my job was to kill him.

[Dominic]

No.

[Izzo]

If, if the subject subsequently died from his injuries that were pumped into him, that's a different story. But when it comes to law enforcement, sadly people have to understand that pistol is there to stop the behavior, not the person. And a lot of people just can't comprehend that. But military wise them all and what.

[Tyler]

I, I get what you're saying, Jimmy, but at the end of the day, worst, the, the easiest way to stop a threat is to shoot it in ways that's going to kill it. So they're almost synonymous.

[Izzo]

But what everything because intent, if you, if you have an army of cops saying my job is to kill people when I put my pistol out, now you've got an active military on your street. Your job is to say, hey listen, my job is to stop the threat. And you can go wink, wink. Well we know that for, for, for the purposes of exercising the constitutionality of fourth amendment and sending somebody for court and due process, it just builds a better civil relationship with people say hey listen, you might die from me pulling the trigger, but I'm gonna pump 13 rounds into you. I can't tell you what your body's gonna do. So that intent plays a big role in the difference between law enforcement and military.

[Tyler]

Real quick before we, we break off, I want to play the Chicago video. Do we have that uploaded?

[Mike]

We like this one.

[Izzo]

Find my comment because I'm getting DMS for it.

[Mike]

Top one, top one. That one.

[Tyler]

Crazy. I love the dude just working on.

[Mike]

His car and this guy trying to deliver something, trying to get it work.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's the, the astronauts. The astronaut that was denied space launch having a conversation with a doctor that medically denied it.

[Mike]

Correct?

[Izzo]

Yeah, I got a lot of, I got a lot of comment hate and DMS because I put on that video, I put Happy black history month.

[Tyler]

I mean what do we have any background?

[Dominic]

Was on the mlk, the only thing.

[Mike]

I do know is that everybody in the car has lived. But there was a baby in the back seat. When they found the car, I believe the two. The two adults were injured alive, and there was a little baby in the back eating a lollipop. When they made contact, finally, they fired.

[Izzo]

Yeah, you know what? When you really think about it, black kids probably have it better. They'll sleep through anything. All you white parents who can't get your kids to fall asleep, you need to take your kids to Southside for a night.

[Mike]

Fireworks. 24 365. Huh?

[Dominic]

Jesus.

[Mike]

But that, you know, and that's a whole nother rabbit hole. That video we talked about a little bit last night and that look, that's a normal day in Chicago.

[Tyler]

Jimmy, if I said, is this Chicago or Somalia? You'd take a second. I mean, I mean, you'd have to use, like, buildings. This is probably Chicago, but it. It would take you longer if I said, is this Chicago or, you know, any other country? Yeah, it's.

[Izzo]

It's safe. It's a. For white people, literally like you. If you're a white person. I dare you. It's awesome.

[Tyler]

Go walk.

[Izzo]

I've literally done it. Literally done it. I've got the photos to prove it. You go in the blackest of neighborhood, walk. They think you're crazy. They will not. You're safe as. Because they know they gun you down, they're gonna have an army of CPD.

[Mike]

Down there going, oh, we really.

[Tyler]

Supposed to kill your own?

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

Like, I mean, I mean, at what point though, do you just go like, hey, everybody that was involved in that little fracas. Gun. You know, half ass stupid gun. I mean, I don't even want to call it a gunfight. That was. I don't know what that was. That was jackass.

[Tyler]

Was it a car accident too?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Izzo]

I think this.

[Mike]

If I was gonna assume the shooting started before. Yeah, that car was shot at, probably crashed from injuries, and then they ran up and tried to finish it off.

[Izzo]

There's an easy way to solve this problem, and nobody has the guts to do it. If I were, because it's only a few neighborhoods. If you go back to heyjackass.com there's. There's like Austin kills me because it's the most west neighborhood of Chicago. Right before you get to Oak park, which, like, the average home is $600,000. It's hilarious. You cross over one block, you're like, it's midnight at 2:00 clock in the afternoon. But the easiest way to do it is you remove every police and EMS service to those neighborhoods. And then you take. If there's like 40 cops, the police there, you just put those cops the surrounding area and anytime a car from that a neighborhood decides to come in, like, oh, part. No, turn around, go back in there. When you guys learn, literally escape from LA.

[Mike]

Yeah. So far this year, Austin has three homicides and 11 wounded in that one neighborhood. And for the. We talked about this last night. It actually went up, Dominic, since last night, we talked about it. For the five days of February so far, we have six shot and killed, 13 wounded. And so 19 people shot been shot in the five days in just Chicago these first five days.

[Tyler]

60.

[Izzo]

I'm saying 60 by the end of the month. 60 for the month.

[Tyler]

And it's a short month.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

And it's black history month.

[Mike]

And for the two months that we've already. No, we're a month and what month? And five days in. We have 131 people shot so far in Chicago. In Chicago a day.

[Dominic]

Jesus Christ.

[Mike]

Dude, if I told you 35, 60.

[Dominic]

If I went on the news right now. Okay, let's say it's, it's, it's 2007. And I say in the first two months of 20 or 2007, 136 soldiers lost their lives.

[Mike]

The good news is you're like, what in the. The good news is it's down 26 from last year.

[Dominic]

Picture.

[Izzo]

Jeez, Literally they're running out of their own kind to shoot. We gotta wait till these kids grow up. So.

[Tyler]

God. All right, Dom, we gotta catch up on some super chats and hit our last segment. Thank you so much for coming on, man. Always a pleasure. All right, so some super chats. First off, what's going on with Joe? Joe. Joe. Somebody says Joe? I said, I kind of glanced over and people were like, oh my God, brother, we're praying for you.

[Dominic]

And I'm like, dude, that's, that's. I mean, Joe was in the chats last night and I, I mean I literally just, just pull out. Unfortunate situation. Joe, what the.

[Tyler]

If anybody. I know, there's probably a 10 second delay.

[Dominic]

I know, I missed it too. Oh yeah, we gotta join the army today too. I forgot about that.

[Tyler]

Yep. Well, what's the super chats, Mike? Can you read them?

[Mike]

First one is keep him on weekly. Great idea, Tyler. I think that's about. Oh, the U. S. Marine vet.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

$2 from CC for Izzo to say the word. He didn't ficus 4, 3, 2. Here are some. Here are some chicas for the boys. Big hugs from the land of milk and honey. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it. And 199, if you had to guess what percentage of cops are genuinely racist, I would say under 1%.

[Tyler]

Under 1%.

[Mike]

Probably under half a percent. One half of the a percent.

[Tyler]

Yeah, under. And you're. And they're not going to say anything.

[Mike]

You're throwing the. I'm talking about, I don't know, racist. There. There's not. There's people that neighborhood.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Define just based on racist. It's about 90 of cops based on that standard. Because we make black jokes. And we also say.

[Mike]

I posted a real yesterday and I stand by this. The hood is the greatest place to work and it's the greatest place to learn the job. And it's the. The greatest people. Oh, the greatest people.

[Tyler]

Justin just texted me. One of Joe's buddies took his own life. Yes. Marine he served with.

[Mike]

Man, we're sorry to hear that. And if there's any donation, fundraiser, anything we can do to help, you know where to get a hold of us.

[Jimmy]

Jesus Christ, man.

[Tyler]

We do have. We did Chicago super chats.

[Mike]

We got. Is there any.

[Tyler]

Clint's got a call in.

[Mike]

We got that one other Miami Dade video if you want to watch.

[Tyler]

Yeah, let's do that. Then Clint, get ready.

[Dominic]

And we still got Iran.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We'll do Iran and then Clint.

[Dominic]

Okay.

[Mike]

This is Miami. This is Miami Dade Sheriff's Office serving a child pornography. Make it big. Search warrant.

[Tyler]

Make it big.

[Dominic]

Make it big.

[Mike]

Sheriff's office serving Search Warrant 3 Southwest 102. Please come out with your hands up. Search Warrant 551-3 Southwest 102.

[Dominic]

Please come.

[Mike]

I'll call you when we're ready. Open the door.

[Ryan Miller]

Let me see.

[Dominic]

Hey.

[Tyler]

Do you want somebody else in the background?

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So that was actually. So the suspect was there, child pornography was actually arrested unshot.

[Tyler]

That was the guy that walked out, right?

[Mike]

That was the suspect's brother. Yeah, it was a suspect's brother that presented a firearm. Holy guacamole.

[Tyler]

Let's talk SWAT search warrant. First off, this is Miami Dade county srt. Not to be confused with Miami swat.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Tyler]

There's a difference.

[Mike]

You don't want to sit here and call Miami swat.

[Tyler]

Yeah, not when you greet a whole group of dudes and call Miami swat. Very high caliber. Same. Same caliber.

[Mike]

Full time SWAT team, Miami Dade Sheriff's Office.

[Tyler]

First off, you train for that. That when you breach that door, when you are breaching a Door. You are not expecting people to be like, hi, because they want to open the door, right? You're breaching, you're ready to go, and then all of a sudden, you got a bunch of people going like this. So now you have to go backwards in your brain, which you train for, and go, okay, get out, get out, get out. Once they're out, then you have to go back into. Let's go. And then a guy walks in front of you with a gun. Homeboy puts him down. Shots fired. Let me see your hands. Beautiful shooting. And I'm sorry that somebody lost her life, but that's why we do the announcements with the giant tank in your front yard that says Miami SWAT or whatever they're saying, come out with your hands up. You can't say you didn't know. They said it like 20 times. You walk out in the living room with a gun with a bunch of flashlights. It's not the aliens, right? So if it's not the aliens, probably the cops.

[Dominic]

Yeah, it's probably cops.

[Tyler]

What do you think, Mike?

[Mike]

I like it.

[Dominic]

I mean, I. I don't know what their ttps are, so, I mean, like, I have some questions. I have some questions from you guys.

[Tyler]

Okay, shoot.

[Dominic]

So you made a. You made a statement about, like, hey, they're standing there with their hands up in the door, right? So do you guys not go through the door?

[Mike]

We don't go in.

[Dominic]

Okay, Pull them out. Okay.

[Tyler]

It's like a layup. We don't get people out of the house.

[Mike]

We don't do dynamic entry anymore unless it's a hostage rescue. We do a surround and call out. Most agencies now in the United States do what's a surrounding? Call out, which is what you see now. They would call, call, call, no answer after a certain amount of time. Then they would make a dynamic. It's still not dynamic. They would make a. An entry. There's a system, but it's not like 80s cops where you just run through the house. It's very calculated, very slow. Slow, slow. Methodical.

[Tyler]

Depends on the agency and the.

[Mike]

And the seriousness of the crime.

[Tyler]

I've seen it depend on the team leader. I've seen it. One team is very call out because that team leader is responsible for everything. He's. That team leader is responsible for everything that goes on. The other team leader was very aggressive. And it also depends on, you got a guy with warrant for child porn. What's he going to do with that evidence? If he's in that house for a long time, that's just a consideration. Right. Dope narcotics hate using SWAT because SWAT goes we're not going to get somebody killed or kill somebody because you're worried about them flushing the dope that you want to rest.

[Mike]

You're not going to be able to delete that image.

[Tyler]

They can't. They hate. No I'm talking about like hardware.

[Izzo]

Yeah.

[Mike]

They can break it but it's there dude. It's in the cloud. It's on the device. You can even hit delete on your phone of all of it. It's still going to be in your hard drive. There's never going to be a scene where evidence over in today's world evidence.

[Tyler]

Should not flush a hard drive. No.

[Mike]

Evidence doesn't over overcome.

[Tyler]

There's a computer in the toilet.

[Mike]

But we're more of a surrounded call out type world now. So that. That's textbook.

[Tyler]

And if you're gonna go in it's it. It's called. It's not. What do you call opposite dynamic.

[Dominic]

Yes.

[Tyler]

You go it. You're just gonna go in like passive is what. Yeah you would. She'd be like how you would train me. If I go jimmy, how do we clear this room? You're gonna like how the speed. You would walk me through it. The same speed they go very, very.

[Dominic]

Different from like active shooter and school. Like an active dude during a shooter in school.

[Tyler]

You're like he said a hostage. You're going. You're going. You're skipping rooms. Yeah. You're going to the threat of the ax. Yeah but man what a great search for.

[Dominic]

It looked clean to me. I was just like damn dude, get the out of the fatal funnel.

[Tyler]

I would look I would love. Well no one was in the fatal funnel. They were all out. They were all outside the door. They had. They had panda and they were on each side. Ah, there's nobody that's going to stand in front of a door on a. On a first rate only if I.

[Mike]

Was going to be very critical. The only thing I saw was not only the shield the bri. I don't understand the breach with the shield.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Holding a shield and a breaching tool. And they really didn't. We would. We would shield the windows while that stack is stacked up at the door. They covered it and they said hey, watch that window. And one guy was. You can see the guy's body cam. We were watching. He's kind of muzzling the window. I would prefer if you have enough guys that I would put a shield on that and a guy with a rifle Pointed in.

[Tyler]

How would the guy get elevated? Just hold it like this.

[Mike]

Yeah, we would bring actually a step or just. Just get up to the window and at least cover it. I'm being very critical, though.

[Dominic]

I. I mean, here's a. Another question. I mean, these are essentially you. You have a warrant, right? You know where you're going. Can you maybe get like, a blueprint?

[Mike]

They've already done all that.

[Dominic]

Okay. So they. So they know, like, hey, not only.

[Tyler]

Not only do they have a blueprint, they've gone through, and every cop that's entered that home on a routine call, they've watched their body cam. So let's say eight months ago, patrol Tyler, Patrolman Tyler went in there for domestic violence. They're watching my camera. They're as far back as they can go. So they can get an absolute.

[Mike]

That's a pro.

[Dominic]

Yeah, that's a lot.

[Mike]

You're talking Miami dates.

[Izzo]

That's.

[Mike]

That's an elite team. That is constant. And there's two teams that are always on call. Our good at buddy Frank Rigo, Columbia.

[Dominic]

And fought with Bill Smith.

[Mike]

And those guys are professionals. And there's, like I said, very nitpicky little, Little things. But they know everybody's history in the house. They know the layout. They know what they're looking at.

[Tyler]

And to be fair, the debrief was probably like, hey, first off, the way SWAT works is. Goes. The operation is good. Everybody takes off their helmet. The unofficial AAR goes or Jimmy, what the. What the deal with that shield and breaching the door? I. I want to know if you have a reason, because if you have a reason on why you did it.

[Dominic]

We'Re good all day.

[Tyler]

So if you. Hold on.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

If you go, dude, to be honest with you, like, I. I don't really know. That's a problem. You.

[Mike]

I would want a shield up there, but the guy holding the shield shouldn't be reaching.

[Tyler]

If you go. Sergeant Tyler, I went to hand Mike the shield like we talked about, and he was all off doing something else. Okay, never mind. Just try not to do it. Let's. Let's as a team that needs to be known that we can't do that.

[Dominic]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that's. That I would breach kit with the guy holding the shield. But, I mean, you're. I don't know how it works.

[Mike]

Oh, okay. My bad. I take it all back. I take it all back. I forgot. And Justin's right. Frank owns that company. That's his shield. That is actually a shield preaching tool. So I. I Am corrected. And I appreciate Justin for pointing that out. I do forget that's.

[Tyler]

What's with Frank, actually.

[Mike]

Well, yeah, Frank.

[Izzo]

I forget.

[Tyler]

He.

[Mike]

I don't think he's actually named the company yet, but he sells that.

[Tyler]

My.

[Mike]

My apologies.

[Tyler]

We owe you a free shout out. Frankly, running. We owe you a free shout out.

[Mike]

He actually sponsored our event down in Miami where Jack and Mike's over here.

[Tyler]

That's my bad.

[Mike]

That's my bad.

[Dominic]

I'll call him.

[Mike]

And I got.

[Izzo]

I'll call him.

[Tyler]

By the way, if you watch the episode.

[Mike]

Go watch it. Hey, man, we pumped you up great on this episode today, man. Clip that little bit. Yes, that's right. That is actually a breaching tool shield combination. I stand corrected. And that is actually.

[Dominic]

That's interesting.

[Mike]

Very good.

[Dominic]

Yeah, that's an interesting. I mean, very, very different than the way that we did it, which is that the number one man just points at the door like your job is.

[Tyler]

To look at the door.

[Dominic]

That's it. Don't do nothing else. Don't.

[Mike]

Yep, I. I stand corrected.

[Dominic]

I mean, still. I mean, look looked. I mean, clean as too, because it was. It was like four. It was like two control pairs.

[Tyler]

Those guys. Those guys. We got a new goon. I did. Yes, I saw. Oh, can you read it? Yeah.

[Dominic]

Eli Carter. H2V. Eli Carter, huh? Is a new goon.

[Tyler]

Hey, welcome, brother.

[Dominic]

Welcome to the show. Welcome to the party, pal.

[Tyler]

All right, so you covered Iran on Shadowcast Live last night? Yeah. For a more extensive deep dive, we got to do about a 5 to 7 minute Iran.

[Dominic]

Honestly, like, I. I covered it, but, like, here's the basic gist of it. So two days ago, the a. An Iranian shaheed drone, which is basically like a pred copy, it's like a Teemu Predator, okay. Had headed towards the USS Abraham Lincoln, which is a carrier, which is south of Iran. They tried to get it to go away. They told him to, no, don't come near the. The carrying them again. The reason why they're headed to the carrier is they don't know exactly where the carrier is. They just know the general vicinity of the carrier because they're like, huh, here's all these airplanes. This is where they're all coming and going to. Their carrier is probably around there somewhere. So they sent the drone out to find the carrier and take some pictures. It was warned to go away. It was told to go away. And so finally, an F35 Lightning from VMFA 314, the Black Knights, which is the same squadron that Captain Stephen Hiller was in fighting the aliens in Independence Day, shot that drone down. And then directly after that, a whole bunch of small boats went out to. I gotta forget the name of this ship. The Stena Imperative. Okay, which is a US Tanker. That is for chemical moving chemicals. The thing about it is though, it's a U. S. It's in the U. S. Tanker security program and which means that it's a commercially owned vessel that the Department of Defense has contracted. So the Iranian Republican Guard Corps tried to board it and USS McFall stopped them and airplanes came over and were like, we'll blow you out of the water if you don't get away from our boat. So they finally left. And then the next day, the Iranians couldn't make a decision about coming to the peace table and everybody left. And then the whole world was like, this is it. We're going to war with Iran in 48 hours. And it's like, no, no, no, everybody calm the down. There's no infantry guys really over there. There's no marines over there. There's no tanks over there. We're not invading anybody. Yeah, if we're gonna do something, we'll drop some bombs or whatever, but like, that's. Again, it's not gonna happen. Everybody just needs to chill the out. The big thing was, and this is what we talked about a lot last night was because I had a lot of people in the chat, I had 30 people in there last night. And it's like, hey, do you think this is a distraction from the Epstein files? And I'm like, no, I think everything is a distraction at this point, like the Epstein files. And I mean it's, I don't even think it's a distraction from something else. I think it's, it's all meant to keep us moving so fast. We can't keep up with one thing to the next to the next until they hit us with something massive. So that's the, the basic breakdown of what's going on in Iran. Don't let anybody scare you. There's gonna be a lot of fear mongering out there. We're not going to war anytime soon. Colt was like, dude, what do you think the chances are of us going to war with Iran and, you know, being boots on the ground, I'm like, non existent, dude.

[Mike]

Like, there's nobody there.

[Dominic]

What are we gonna do? Like, just start, you know? All right, guys, everybody, it's a race to see which infantry division gets to Iran for first.

[Tyler]

All right, so what we're gonna have to do is when Clint calls, we're gonna have to have him talk to Jimmy.

[Mike]

Yeah, Clint can just call Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Yeah, call Jimmy.

[Dominic]

Yeah, Clint's got my number.

[Tyler]

Clint. Give Jimmy a call.

[Mike]

I'm GP One more time.

[Dominic]

My phone will work, right? Foreign. Let's see. Let's see. All right, I texted him. I texted him. We got a lot of dead air.

[Tyler]

Right now, so you're good, man. At the end of the show. We're near the end of the show, dude.

[Dominic]

I'm, I'm the, the medication that I took to try and knock this thing down. I could tell you that I won't be drinking tonight.

[Izzo]

That is for sure.

[Tyler]

Oh, one thing. I did see Night Shift tonight. Okay. All right, Clint, go ahead and answer. Hey, getting character. You are a newly recruit. Or maybe a recruit.

[Dominic]

All right, all right, all right. Hey, Sergeant Ludwig, this is James Arnett over at 1437 off 59th Street. Uh, north.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, what's going on, man? What can I help you with?

[Dominic]

Well, I, uh, I was looking at joining, uh, the Marine Corps, but my, my asvab, it was, I guess it wasn't good because I only got a 70 on it, and the Marine Corps said that they didn't, they didn't want to let me be in the infantry.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, they'll do that, I guess, I guess if you went to check out the marines first. You got bullies in high school. They've been bothering you, man?

[Dominic]

No, not really. I'm homeschooled, actually.

[Jimmy]

I don't. Homeschooled. Okay, okay, that's, I can work with that. So, so you're interested in the infantry?

[Dominic]

Yes, I really want to be in the infantry.

[Jimmy]

Okay, well, before, before we can start talking about jobs, I need to know. So you took the ASVAB and you got a 70, right?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

Okay. And then do you have any medical conditions?

[Dominic]

I mean, sometimes I sneeze when I go underwater, but that's about it.

[Jimmy]

Okay, That'll keep you out of the Navy. What about, what about law violations? Oh, no, usually, usually a call in appointment, there's going to be at least one issue, and I'm betting, Jimmy Arnett Jr. That law violations might be the hold up with your enlistment.

[Dominic]

So I, I, I got into a fight at school and it was on the stairwell and I knocked in trouble.

[Jimmy]

Now because you're home school.

[Dominic]

Yes, I'm homeschooled.

[Izzo]

Now.

[Dominic]

This was before I was homeschooled, so I was in public school. This is the reason why I'm homeschooled. Now.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so you did have bullies in high school, so that's why you went to the mines workers.

[Dominic]

Well, I mean, they. They weren't bullies for long because I ended up getting probation for it.

[Jimmy]

And there's the law. See, it all comes together, Jim. So are you. Are you currently on any probation or do you owe any money?

[Dominic]

No, I'm not on probation. That all ended when I was 16, over a year ago now.

[Jimmy]

Now a lot of times they'll tell you that things are expunged. That just means that that's going to be extra highlighted when they look at it.

[Dominic]

Okay, Well, I mean, I can. I. All I want to do is go into the army and go into the infantry and get the. Out of Florida. I never want to come back to this place ever. There is no reason why I would ever be in Florida again.

[Jimmy]

So we got a beautiful place called Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. And I feel like that might be your future.

[Mike]

What about.

[Jimmy]

Or maybe Northcom in.

[Tyler]

What about.

[Dominic]

What about Ranger regiment? Can I go to the Ranger regiment?

[Jimmy]

What's your. What's your feelings about injectables? Are you. Are you. Do you. Do you prefer muscular or intravenous?

[Dominic]

So I. I could do it if I had to. I really don't like needles, though.

[Jimmy]

I had a buddy that was a Ranger. He showed up, his team leader looked at him, and the first thing he said was, I don't like your body, but I'm going to fix that.

[Tyler]

Okay, well, I have PT scores.

[Dominic]

Oh, yeah. So my. I do have the little sheet from MEPs here in my lap, and it's got the army score is on it. And the one that. The one that I was told to give you is the GT score. It's 121.

[Jimmy]

Okay, 121. So if you have a 121, you should have over a 70 GT score. That. That would be more like a 99. 98 is almost.

[Dominic]

Yeah, it says 70.

[Tyler]

Is that real?

[Dominic]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

Tells you. Is your. That's your general technical. And that. That basically. Basically tells you how. How if I was teaching you a new skill that you had never done before, that's telling us how easily you're going to pick it up.

[Dominic]

Oh, well, I guess that means that I'm not as dumb as I look, right?

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, usually, like, like I say, 115 is the sweet spot. 121, that. That usually means you. You got a lot of questions. You like to know why we're. Why we're Doing this stuff instead of just doing it. But we can work with that. We can get you a waiver for having too high GT score to get into the infantry.

[Dominic]

Well, that's, that's good. So my dad is, he was. He's still in the army. He's a major and he told me to ask about bonuses.

[Jimmy]

Okay, first of all, you need to. I need your dad's Social Security number. Get him a 1500 referral bonus for, for sending you to me.

[Dominic]

Is that real?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that's real. You'll get. Your dad will get fifteen hundred dollars when you join, when you complete basic training, and then he'll, he'll get the other fifteen hundred dollars when you complete ait. And right now, I know you're saying you're interested in infantry, but we're currently offering a forty thousand dollar signing bonus for fuel.

[Dominic]

I, I do not want to be anything but in the infantry. I, I was told to ask about it, but I'll, I don't want to do anything but be in the infantry. I, I have a. I literally have a poster of a, of a Ranger on my wall right now, surrounded by Christmas lights that I pray to every night as I read the book Blackhawk Down.

[Jimmy]

Okay, that's, that's a good sign. Every, every platoon needs one guy that likes anime. So, so you're, so you're not interested in the, like in the fuel deal? You don't like when you go to pump?

[Dominic]

Yeah, I'm.

[Jimmy]

You're in Florida, so I'm assuming you got a pickup truck.

[Dominic]

I, I actually don't have a vehicle. In fact, I don't even have my driver's license.

[Jimmy]

Oh, that's. You know what? We're going to give you a military driver's like, I can print you one out right now. I got a stack of them that says you're 6 foot tall and 180 pounds.

[Dominic]

This is all true. I did not have a driver's license when I went into the army. And I did have a, I did have a big ranger freaking poster on my wall.

[Tyler]

Jimmy, I believe you.

[Jimmy]

I had the one that was 82nd that said giving the, giving the enemy the maximum opportunity to die for his country.

[Dominic]

Mine was just a ranger guy with a, with a saw.

[Jimmy]

The ranger got me. It was the, the guy walking through the swamp.

[Dominic]

Yes, that's the one.

[Jimmy]

I had the chest. That's chest Deep water.

[Dominic]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

They just don't tell you what temperature that water.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Marine recruiters.

[Dominic]

Hey, the, the marine recruiter is calling me.

[Jimmy]

Oh man. Don't don't answer that. You don't. You don't want. You don't want to mess them.

[Dominic]

Hold on one second.

[Tyler]

Hello?

[Dominic]

Staff Sergeant Hoover.

[Mike]

Give me.

[Tyler]

Yeah. For five brother to simplify.

[Dominic]

Staff Sergeant, I'm looking at you.

[Tyler]

Wonder who you talking here.

[Dominic]

I'll merge the calls.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Dominic]

Oh, God. Can I do that? Here we go. All right. So Sergeant Ludwig, I have a Staff Sergeant Hoover on the phone from the Marine Corps. He said he wanted to talk to you. He's outside my window staring at me with a knife hand.

[Jimmy]

You know what? I bet he is the Marine. That because he made you say Staff Sergeant. We're offering you Jimmy roughly Rafael. What? So what is Staff Sergeant Hoover. Hoover. I'm guessing by. By your voice, you were also the infantryman. Is that correct? That is incorrect. That is incorrect. Yes. Oh, so you're mortarman. I was a fueling specialist in the United States Marine Corps.

[Dominic]

Now that.

[Jimmy]

Now I like that. So in your opinion, what's your favorite octane here? What? Octane. Jpa. Jpa. That. That's good. That's good answer. You know, it's not. What waterboarding. If you use jpa.

[Tyler]

God.

[Jimmy]

Join the.

[Dominic]

All right, all right, all right. It's. Man, what a. What a fun. What a fun one that was. Clint. All right, do we have the bets in the chat?

[Tyler]

We just.

[Dominic]

We just threw up the number.

[Mike]

No, we didn't. We went with it. It was a different type of call today.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

Yeah. I mean, so all of that was true. That I did get a. A 70 on my ASVAB. I did have a 120 or 121 GT score. I did have a poster of Rangers with in the swamp holding the saw with Christmas lights around it. And I did read Blackhawk down like 50 times before I joined.

[Tyler]

I want to ask Clint question.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

With a high GG score and a little as bad for it, does that mean that Jimmy's really good at fixing but he's borderline retarded?

[Mike]

Blocking the camera.

[Tyler]

Sitting there staring at me.

[Dominic]

Oh, dude, I am. I am fighting this sinus infection. And I took some Sudafed and I.

[Tyler]

Think he was talking about Ryan.

[Dominic]

Oh, yeah, I know.

[Izzo]

And I just.

[Dominic]

I'm not on my A game this morning. I'm trying to be at words for days.

[Mike]

Yeah, he.

[Dominic]

He had word salad for days. I mean, like, good God.

[Jimmy]

I agree with everybody else, though, that that's. That's still pretty good of him to come on there, though. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

He knows everybody's got to Be the. What is it? 11 Valdez on the 5.

[Dominic]

Oh, I don't know what's what. I know what you're talking about.

[Jimmy]

Oh, Was just beating the hell out of you.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Ju.

[Dominic]

Was it Ron Rivera? Juan Rivera? Yeah. It's not contagious. It's just a sinus infection. All right, brother. Hey, it's always good talking to you, man.

[Jimmy]

All right, later, guys.

[Dominic]

Later. So that is one of the things that you do get from getting into Patreon. You be staying the Patreon long enough. You have my number, you got Tyler's number, you got Mike's number.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. I still gotta call the.

[Dominic]

By the way. Discord Tracking like a scud, man. Going up.

[Tyler]

Having fun.

[Dominic]

Yeah, they're in there doing it. We got to get some stuff done. I still need to, you know, talk to some people, but. Hey, get in the Discord, man. Get the discord. Get in the Discord.

[Tyler]

All right, guys, that'll wrap up the show. Remember Counterculture, Inc. Tonight, the Night Shift. It's its first night on Counterculture, Inc. Network only. We will be streaming. We are going to try to. I'm assuming we have the capabilities of streaming a thumbnail on Anti Hero that directs people to Counterculture, Inc. That's where the Night Shift will be. Counterculture Inc. Network only. So make sure you go subscribe to Counterculture, Inc. YouTube. But other than that, we will see you tonight, 8pm Eastern Standard Time for the Night Shift.

[Mike]

Appreciate it, guys.

[Dominic]

Later, dudes.

[Tyler]

JV team for life. When you take a sip of an.

[Dominic]

Ice cold Coke, Zero sugar, you know you're getting real Coca Cola taste you love and with zero sugar. It's so delicious, you can almost taste it with your ears. Hear those bubbles.

[Tyler]

Imagine them tingling on your tongue. Fizzy to look deliciousness. Listen to that cascading liquid.

[Dominic]

It's unmistakably tasty. All with zero sugar.

[Tyler]

Crisp, refreshing and ice cold.

[Jimmy]

Ah, Coke.

[Tyler]

Zero sugar. Real Coca Cola taste. Zero sugar.