NEW VIDEO OF PRETTI IS NOT GOOD...(01/29/2026)

Summary

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The Antihero Broadcast | Jan 29, 2026

Episode: “NEW VIDEO OF PRETTI IS NOT GOOD...”

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Antihero Broadcast focuses on a new video release related to Alex Pretti (the presenters and some guests alternate the spelling as "Preddy"/"Pretti"), whose fatal encounter with law enforcement continues to spark controversy and debate. The hosts and guests—Tyler, Mike, Dominic, and Jimmy—dissect never-before-seen footage of Pretti’s prior altercation with ICE agents, the media’s portrayal of such incidents, and broader implications for law enforcement, protest, and societal polarization. The show is flavored with characteristic irreverence, dark humor, and a pro–blue-collar, pro–first-responder bent, while also digressing into conspiracy theories and geopolitical updates.

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1. Birthday Banter & Segment Kickoff

[00:22 – 03:01]

• Mike opens with a playful birthday video for Tyler, complete with inside jokes and camaraderie about age and first steroid use.
• The hosts quickly transition from this light moment to the serious topic: new video footage of Alex Pretti’s run-in with ICE agents prior to his death.
• Tone: Fraternal, irreverent, blue-collar locker-room.

Notable Quote

"Happy birthday, Tyler. He's 57 years old. Everybody wish him a happy birthday. How old are you? 30." — Mike [02:24]

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2. Examining the New Alex Pretti Video

[03:07 – 11:40]

Key Discussion Points

• Release & Context: The new video isn't from the shooting in which Pretti died, but from a prior (Jan 13) incident in the same area, showing a combative interaction with ICE.
• Narrative Manipulation: Hosts suggest the media uses selective images to influence perception, e.g., showing only sanitized or youthful photos of those killed in police encounters.
• Skepticism About Motives: Mike raises doubts about mainstream narratives—reluctant to trust media framing or even basic government narratives (moon landing, JFK, etc.).
• Breakdown of Incident: In the video, Pretti is shown spitting at ICE, kicking out a taillight, and being physically subdued; ICE agents deploy tear gas and pepper balls.

Timestamps & Quotes

• [03:15] “There are videos ... of Alex kind of showcasing a different side ... the liberal media doesn’t want you to see." — Tyler

• [05:04] “Here’s no audio, but here is his interaction with ICE. Spitting.” — Mike

• [07:41] “During the altercation, agents fired tear gas and pepper balls into the crowd...” — Jimmy

Analysis

• The hosts analyze the tactical decisions, particularly the risk of going hands-on with rifles:

  “Going hands-on with a rifle is crazy work. ... When you’re gonna go scrap, you cannot present somebody with a weapon and then go, but you can’t use it against me.” — Tyler [10:45]

• They repeatedly return to the question: Did anything in Pretti’s earlier behavior “justify” later lethal force?

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3. Law Enforcement Tactics & Morality

[11:40 – 24:10]

• Tactical Critique:

  • Debates about ICE training: grabbing someone “with a rifle” is high-risk.
  • Anecdotes about law enforcement errors (e.g., accidental discharges near bystanders) highlight the complexity and danger.

• Judgment & Responsibility:

  • The group distinguishes between deserving punishment for criminal behavior versus “deserving to die.”
  • They discuss proportionality: prior mischief, resisting, or rioting doesn’t justify summary execution by police.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• [13:23] “If you go to a disturbance at a house every week... as mad as you want... Just because he did that 11 days ago doesn’t change the fact, that’s a completely separate incident." — Mike

• [17:11] “He should have been in jail. What he did was wrong. It was illegal. It was a terrible display of his attitude.” — Mike

• [20:31] “Somewhere in the middle... the regular people will go, okay, like, I see what they're saying...” — Mike

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4. “Deserve to Die?”: Ethics, Darwinism & Public Narrative

[21:14 – 35:57]

Moral Deliberations

• Darwin Awards & “Stupid Prizes”: Hosts and chat contributors wrestle with the notion that repeatedly antagonizing police, or engaging in “high-risk” behaviors, increases the risk of fatal consequences, without necessarily justifying them.
• Role of Police Training: Emphasis that poor decisions by authorities or subjects can catalyze tragedy, but justice isn't binary.
• Media & Social Spin: They analyze how left/right media ecosystems each rapidly seize on incidents to promote their broader narrative (evil law enforcement vs. criminals getting what’s coming).

Quotes

• [26:13] “If you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.” — Jimmy

• [23:55] "There’s certain people that deserve to die... Pedophiles... He didn’t deserve to die, but he put himself in a greater position to die." — Mike

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5. Systemic Responsibility: Law, Jail, & Mental Health

[35:35 – 44:45]

• Justice System Failure:
  • The hosts argue Pretti’s behavior called for arrest and possible mental health intervention, not death.
  • Local authorities should have intervened sooner.
• Historical and Local Context: They point to political, judicial, and law enforcement failures to properly process and treat repeat offenders, as well as the tendency for agencies to deflect blame.

Notable Quotes

• [36:06] “When he died, he did not have a gun on him. The agents had soul possession and control..." — Mike

• [43:51] "All this is made up because they’re hiding the Somalian fraud from you..." — Mike (as discussion turns to conspiracy).

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6. The Conspiracy Segment: Distraction & Political Manipulation

[43:19 – 47:20]

• The team riffs (half-seriously, half-ironically) on grand conspiracies: mainstream and alt-media fixate on high-profile ICE/policing cases to distract from government or NGO corruption (esp. Somalian fraud).
• Satirical “Grand Theory”: This is all to conceal deeper elite criminality, human trafficking, or financial malfeasance.

Quotes

• [43:24] “You notice we don’t even talk about the illegal Somalis anymore...” — Tyler
• [44:35] “This is too distract. ... Put your tinfoil hat on.” — Mike

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7. Law Enforcement, Accountability & Street Reality

[61:41 – 75:57]

Accountability, Cowardice, and Real-World Constraints

• Question: What should the police do when their leadership or city government is acting contrary to public safety?
• Critique: Repeated failures of police, especially when ordered to stand down during riots or unrest, are dissected—blaming careerism, fear for pension, and lack of grassroots courage within the ranks.

Notable Quotes

• [65:35] “At the end of the day, the Minneapolis people look at us for law and order. Do you think they should start taking accountability and either leaving the job or...?” — Tyler

• [67:32] “Just because you have a gold badge and mine's silver does not mean you can stop me from enforcing the constitution...” — Mike

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8. Broader Geopolitical Topics and Tangents

[90:21 – 114:53]

Covering U.S. Foreign Policy, NATO, Asia-Pacific, & Cuba

• NATO & Defense Spending: U.S. is pushing NATO allies to increase defense contributions to 10% GDP for 20-25 years if the U.S. were ever to leave.
• Japan-China Tension: Japanese Coast Guard urging fishermen to leave contested islands; Japan prepping for possible conflict with China.
• Cuba & Oil: Mexico stops supplying Cuba with oil—leaving Cuba more isolated. U.S. policy direction discussed.

Notable Quotes

• [93:55] “Japan very, very much wants to keep those islands. They are not backing down..." — Jimmy
• [92:19] “[If U.S. left NATO] they would have to make their contributions to their military 10% of their GDP for the next 20 to 25 years...” — Jimmy

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9. Sports Segment – Snub in the Hall of Fame

[115:54 – 120:48]

• Discussion of Bill Belichick being denied first-ballot Hall of Fame status, deemed by hosts as “the biggest robbery in history of sports.” The implication: even in sports, thoughtless or vindictive institutional decisions can override merit.

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10. Closing

[121:48 – End]

• Light banter about birthday plans, snacks, and team camaraderie.
• Closing reminders for upcoming shows and where to find them.
• Theme of community, honesty, and blue-collar pride closes out the episode.

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Highlighted Quotes & Moments (by Section)

On Pretti’s Fatal Encounter:

“He was unarmed, and they took his gun, but they shot him anyway.” — Mike [36:06]

On Systemic Failure:

“He made a bunch of dumbass decisions that led to his death. Understandably so.” — Jimmy [30:46]

"All three of us lived through this...at that time, every person with a brown skin tone was a terrorist." — Dominic [61:57]

On Law Enforcement Training:

“Going hands-on with a rifle is crazy work...you’re gonna go scrap, you cannot present somebody with a weapon and then go, but you can’t use it against me.” — Tyler [10:45]

On Narrative & Media:

"The media is cooking this up too. Their job is just to get the first view of it...so people watch their show and their sponsors pay." — Mike [74:17]

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Episode Timeline (Quick Reference)

• 00:22–03:01 — Banter, intro, segue to serious topic
• 03:07–11:40 — Breakdown of new Pretti video
• 11:40–24:10 — Law enforcement tactics, judgment, responsibility
• 24:10–35:57 — Darwinism, “deserve to die,” moral philosophy
• 35:57–44:45 — Systemic failures, “he should have been jailed”
• 43:19–47:20 — Conspiracy & distraction theories
• 61:41–75:57 — Law enforcement accountability, pensions, retirements
• 90:21–114:53 — Geopolitics: NATO, Japan/China, Cuba, World commerce
• 115:54–120:48 — Sports: Belichick snub, closing banter

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Summary Takeaways

• New evidence reframes earlier narratives in the Pretti case, forcing discussion of police training, accountability, and proportionality in use of force.
• Hosts maintain an irreverent, no-BS style, skeptical of mainstream narratives and quick to note media and political manipulation.
• Core dilemma: How to distinguish between behavior increasing risk and acts that “deserve” death?
• Repeated emphasis on the limits and failures of law enforcement hierarchies, overly political leadership, and reticence for officers to risk career for principle.
• The show primes itself as a counterpoint to mainstream discourse—serving blue-collar, veteran, and first responder audiences with candor, bravado, and gallows humor.

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“Does he deserve to die? No. Did he put himself in a greater position to die? Yeah.” — Mike [22:14]

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Transcript

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

Get right into it. That was a crazy segue.

[Tyler]

What?

[Mike]

I got a video to start out the day.

[Tyler]

All right, let's do it, Louis.

[Mike]

First video of the day. Let's roll. But I'm into you, I'm into. And maybe even on the worst nights. I'm into you, I'm into. Let him wonder how we got this far. Cuz I don't really the wonder. All this time I'm still into you. Happy birthday, homo. Happy birthday. Thanks. I didn't forget. I just been ignoring it because I wanted to play the video first. And when the chat went off this morning from the Florida people for the in Jack's chat and they started wishing you happy birthday. I'm like, God, I didn't see it good. I was gonna act like it didn't happen, but today is tyler's birthday. He's 57 years old. Everybody wish him a happy birthday. How old are you? 30.

[Tyler]

38.

[Mike]

38?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

Damn.

[Mike]

I didn't. That's when I started doing steroids. You're way ahead.

[Tyler]

I started doing it.

[Mike]

You're way ahead of me.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

37.

[Mike]

Yeah. You're way ahead of me. So. Happy birthday, Tyler.

[Tyler]

Thank you. All right.

[Mike]

That was my video I made for you.

[Tyler]

Did you go through your photos and just find anything with me?

[Mike]

I actually edit. I had to zoom in because some of them had other. Yeah, that was all made driving here too. That show you my editing skills? An entire video was brought to you by. 528 and 95 northbound 85 miles an hour. Very well. Set up too.

[Dominic]

Louis.

[Mike]

We pulled it over. We pulled it.

[Tyler]

Good job, guys. Thank you.

[Mike]

Yeah. All right. Anyway, do you want to go right into the topic?

[Tyler]

I think we should.

[Mike]

Do you have that? Did. Did you. Do you have a video of it? I have one, yeah.

[Tyler]

Send it to Lewis. I'll talk for a minute.

[Mike]

Good.

[Tyler]

So the. The Alex Preddy finally over. I think it was yesterday they started coming out. Was the day before yesterday. The.

[Mike]

The new video yesterday before these videos.

[Tyler]

Were filmed on January 13, I believe these weren't the videos of the actual shooting where he lost his life. But there are videos in the same area of Alex kind of showcasing a different side of Alex that the liberal media doesn't want you to see. Kind of like when they show you the. The. The criminals that get killed, but they show you their high school photo when they're in their. Yeah, little high school. High school. That's kind of what they're doing with Alex Preddy.

[Mike]

Here's my take, though, and we'll watch it. You know, Dom and I talked last night on Hot Topic, and we really went. We did a couple rabbit holes. But the older I get, the more I think the moon landing was a hoax. I think jfk, the government's involved in a lot of things. I start to get real ugly in this rabbit hole that everything right now is a sham. Everything is being moved around for something else.

[Tyler]

And AI doesn't help, and AI is.

[Mike]

Way out of control without helping. But I watch a video that Dom sent me on the way here about the. How is. The. How is the center of the earth. The center of the earth? Lava. But the coldest place is the bottom of the ocean, which would be right up against the core of the earth. And I'm like. He's like, here, I got something for you. He sends it to me and I look at it. I'm like, he's up at home. Morning. Yeah, like, think about so many weird things. But my point is that we're being. I think we're being spun in directions. And this video will immediately. If you're a right wing maga, you're gonna be like, see, he deserved to die. He should have been killed long ago. Does he deserve to die? So there's no sound in this video because it had some commentary. But I want you. This is July 11th or January 11th somewhere. Like you said. It's like 11 days before he was killed.

[Tyler]

13.

[Mike]

So here's no audio, but here is his interaction with ice. Spitting.

[Tyler]

Kicks their tail out, breaks it.

[Mike]

Now, if you slow it down. He's got a gun on him. Keep going. Keep going. But you look.

[Tyler]

He falls the same way, and he's.

[Mike]

Got the same gun. It looks like he's got the same gun on him.

[Tyler]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike]

But he didn't get killed. The conspiracy, man, it's. You can remove it.

[Tyler]

It's almost like a. It's like the same scenario. Over. We got to repeat the scenario. It didn't work out the way. What do you call that? A simulation?

[Mike]

Yeah, like we gotta.

[Tyler]

We gotta redo it.

[Mike]

Very strange. Very straight now. That changes a little bit. What it does change to me is it changes maybe the peaceful part.

[Tyler]

Did you go to. Did you open up Instagram yet, Lewis?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right. Go to Instagram. I got. I just. I haven't. I didn't send in the video, but. Go to. Before we move on. I have the same video, just a different angle.

[Mike]

Go up. Yep.

[Tyler]

Up, up, up. What is that? Keep going. No, keep going. Keep walking. That's it right there.

[Mike]

Nick Fuentes in there.

[Tyler]

Huh? No, that's not it. Don't worry about. Go back. Keep going.

[Mike]

Up, up.

[Dominic]

It's up.

[Mike]

One more.

[Tyler]

Is that one?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Right there. Yep.

[Mike]

One sec.

[Tyler]

It's got narration to it, so we're going to try and stay away.

[Mike]

I removed it because I had music, and I didn't want the music on mine, but go ahead because this has got narration.

[Jimmy]

Immigration agents, 11 days before border Patrol shot and killed him. Our footage was analyzed by the BBC, whose facial recognition technology confirmed his identity to a 97 degree of accuracy.

[Tyler]

Ye.

[Jimmy]

On the morning of January 13th, our team received a tip that federal agents were blocking a street at the corner of East 36 and Park Avenue in Minneapolis. We arrived around 10:15am we saw observers shouting at the agents as they walked back to their vehicles. When they started driving away, the man kicked their tail light. An agent then got out of the vehicle, grabbed him, and pushed him to the ground.

[Mike]

Crazy.

[Jimmy]

During the altercation, agents fired tear gas and pepper balls into the crowd. They continued to hold the man down. Before they retreat.

[Tyler]

There's one more angle. This is the one you had up first was the right one. I'm sorry. That was my bad. Go up again. Go to Instagram again.

[Mike]

He's there. Just that one. What are you doing here? You out of here. You.

[Tyler]

You can hear him saying, you.

[Mike]

What the is wrong with you?

[Tyler]

Every decision you made in your life is. Something.

[Mike]

You guys.

[Tyler]

All right, that's good.

[Jimmy]

So, first off, you're.

[Tyler]

You're absolutely right that you can tell tell me ICE has no training. The guy with the rifle is going up out of emotion and grabbing.

[Mike]

You were on SW0.

[Tyler]

No.

[Mike]

Unless it's an absolute critical situation which that to me isn't critical. He kicked the tail like does he deserve to be able to do that? Absolutely not. Is that the right way to handle. No. Is he an agitator at that point Is he hindering a federal impeding a federal officer all that stuff? Yes but again going hands on with a rifle is crazy work because again when you go to arrest him he starts grabbing he's going to resist that someone he pulls the trigger on the rifle everything goes bad. So what this highlights against the right who is going to say kill him anyway he's kill him that day. Kill him every day. I know what everybody's going to say on that side. He's obviously a problem multiple times. Still doesn't deserve to die. Unless he deserves to die. Yeah maybe should still be in jail. And that's where my argument with the local that's Dom's well as well. Where is that line of like federal you know how many times you've been to federal court?

[Tyler]

I once for a male I took a mail theft report.

[Mike]

So when you you get to something to the feds it's got to be serious. Yeah so like the feds are not they're not going to be inundated some.

[Tyler]

Kind of processing that's what I'm saying eat them up.

[Mike]

They threw them around if that because the locals aren't gonna take so that's where the local police being on the ground. He should be arrested for mischief impeding resisting, inciting riot, whatever you want to do throw it all at him still doesn't change that. That's the spin that's happening right now. And I I try to be down the middle Mike. Not liberal Mike. I am I voted for Donald Trump. I've definitely lean conservative with the second amendment and those beliefs but I also believe in the Constitution you can't just kill him. And and the lack of training I think shows again that takedown I'd rather see blasting with pepper balls and just leave him on the side of the road. Yeah just leave them there. That's it. But to go hands on with a rifle creates a bad outcome.

[Tyler]

Well here's here's what didn't happen then but there's a million scenarios. What if the rifle that you now present right into his hands he grabs it. Yeah he grabs it out of I'm gonna fight this guy and I always say that too. When, as a cop, when you go hands on, you're. You're choosing essentially to scrap. Can you use other things? Sure. You can use your taser, you can use your baton if you want to. That's fine. You can use your buddies if you want to. But when you're gonna go scrap, you cannot present somebody with a weapon and then go. But you can't use it against me.

[Mike]

We had a SWAT out one time right before that SWAT operation. Oh, SWAT up. Right before I made the team, they had a rule. I don't know whose rule it was, but they put their weapons on fire as they exited the van. So they were ready to fire the gun. I don't. Don't look at me.

[Tyler]

It was all.

[Mike]

Old school. What happened was it was in the black neighborhood. Dude runs out of the house. One of the guys goes hands on. That's not hands on with a rifle. He kind of throws it to the side, bends down gear catches the trigger, and he fires around about 2, 2ft from this black dude's head and just misses his skull. What narrative that create? They tried to kill me. They tried to murder me.

[Tyler]

Oh, the. The skin color actually matters.

[Mike]

Yeah. It's in a black neighborhood. You got a SWAT operator shooting two feet from a black dude's head. That was. Imagine trying to lie. Yeah, everybody. Everybody complied. But that's the reason why you have certain jobs and you're tasked with a job. Dude, first of all, keep your weapon on, safe at all times until you're ready to pull the trigger. But you go hands on with a rifle. What if it caught his gear? What if that happened to him? What if the city, like you're going hands on with a rifle, kick him in his chest, like sling it, leave you. Right, Whatever. But that, that Russia, that rush tactic.

[Tyler]

Emotion, pure emotion. And I've been there.

[Mike]

I'd want to get up.

[Tyler]

It's not even my car.

[Mike]

Yeah, listen to me.

[Tyler]

I have to go now to the mechanic and get this fixed.

[Mike]

He would definitely get the distraction. He blows for me 100. I'm not saying that I wouldn't go grab him and introduce myself very kindly to him. But now with a rifle, you have to be careful. And it doesn't. To me, that doesn't change.

[Dominic]

That's.

[Mike]

And here's my scenario I use with Dom. If you go to a disturbance at a house every week and the dude beats his kid up, beats his kid up. Beats his kid up. You can't just go like, that's it. He Beat his kid up last week. I'm gonna. As soon as he opens the door, I'm gonna put two right between his eyes. As mad as you want. Yeah, as mad as. You can't stand this guy. Just because he did that 11 days ago doesn't change the fact that's a completely separate incident. The second incident is in and of itself.

[Tyler]

Well, here's my thing. And it kind of goes to what Dom was saying. I'm excited to hear what he has to say, Dominic, but, you know, h. At what point would this. Is this inevitable with him? He's shown that he's gonna do this.

[Mike]

Take him to jail. Yes, I. I get it.

[Tyler]

I mean, do you think he.

[Mike]

He's inevitably a protester. That's not gonna stop.

[Tyler]

Do you think that he even considered that he could be killed in this? Or do you think this is a.

[Mike]

No, I think. I think he's mentally ill. If you see the other pictures, he dresses and skirts and women's clothes and.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's another side of. Oh, Alex.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I think they said he was under investigation. There's some stuff.

[Tyler]

He's a male nurse. Unless. Nothing against male nurses.

[Mike]

Except the fact that he's a male nurse. Nothing.

[Dominic]

No.

[Mike]

Didn't mean anything by it. But he's a male nurse. I mean, he definitely had pronouns. He definitely is. Leans left. He was. I've seen pictures. And we have to throw the AI card. I don't know if his AI, but it looked legit that they. He dresses up silly. So. Yeah. At some point. Is his own mental health gonna get him in trouble? Yeah. Did. Got him killed? Did he deserve to die?

[Tyler]

Had we not. So what you're kind of going is, I like it because you're not going full libtard. But you're saying had our justice system not failed him and arrested him and gotten him possibly the care that he needed, he might not have died.

[Jimmy]

Which.

[Mike]

I'll snowball it one further. If the local law enforcement was around helping ICE, they see that that's bad in all 50 states. You can't do that. I don't care what the scenario is. That's resisting. That's. That's criminal mischief or whatever you want to call it. Whatever it is, he goes to jail. And maybe he's not there, maybe he doesn't. Maybe he has more, you know, just beat him up, throw him on the ground.

[Tyler]

I really want to know what happened to him that day on January 13th.

[Mike]

Yeah, it'll come out. I'm sure that we're just do you.

[Tyler]

Think the agents that, like, you know, obviously it wasn't the same agents that shot him, but do you think the ones that had dealt with him on the 13th saw that video and were.

[Mike]

Like, oh, bro, oh, yeah, that's the guy. We should have.

[Jimmy]

Let's go tell stars.

[Mike]

I guarantee, yes, because if he wasn't arrested, I can see somebody going, hey, you guys are on tv beating the brakes off this dude. And then he just dusted him off.

[Dominic]

And let him go.

[Mike]

How did that end?

[Tyler]

Some British guys narrated your beat down.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And here you see.

[Mike]

Yeah. Here you see the agent with the rifle gently, gently escort him to the ground. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how that works if he doesn't go to jail that day. But that's kind of. You've been there. You go to a call and you're like, ah, this guy called. An hour later, you hear the other units are there like, oh, we got three arrests. They got severe injuries. You're like, oh, yeah. So it's like, I'm sure they weren't.

[Tyler]

Excited, but somebody said he got fired three months prior. I would like to know if that's real, Tony. I don't. Not saying that you would lie by any means, but do you. Can you send us the. The source or at least name it?

[Mike]

They also filtered his picture. They took his really bad VA picture from the wall. That's like, he looks like a mentally ill person. Well, not. He's like pale skin, like gray skin. Looks like. Looks like they enhanced it. They enhanced the picture. Like, you know, like the kid that. The one football picture I have of a person, and that's the picture they go with, you know, so.

[Tyler]

That sucks, man. I don't want people like that working at the va. I mean, there's two sides. There really is. I'm sorry, guys. No, I shouldn't say that. There's not two sides. We all live together in America and we abide by the Constitution, except we allow lawlessness.

[Mike]

And that's where you have to look at the Constitution. I saw. We talked about Sean Paul Reyes the other day. He. He posted and he kind of said the same thing. He was like, yeah, I see. He says, and everybody shits on Sean Paul for being like, anti cop. He says, that guy should have been in jail for that day. What we just watched, he committed crimes that day. He's guilty. He should be in jail. He should be held accountable.

[Tyler]

Sean agrees with that. With.

[Mike]

With that incident.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

When we just watched. He should be arrested.

[Tyler]

But they didn't take him to jail.

[Mike]

Whatever happened, happened.

[Tyler]

He.

[Mike]

And. But then he goes on to say, that doesn't mean you get to kill him, of course, the next time you run into him. So he should have been in jail. What he did was wrong. It was illegal. It was a terrible display of his attitude.

[Tyler]

Like, I saw somebody saying that they think the ICE agent should go to jail, not be. Or not be fired, not go to jail. They were. They were. It was kind of. It was a kind of somebody trying to reach something in the middle. Actually, it's in the. Go to Instagram. But here's the thing is, I don't agree with that. Because here's the thing is, the most you could get the guy that discharged his weapon, the. The ICE agent that discharged Alex's weapon, the most he can get is disciplinary action. Yeah. And so again, no crime. But then the other ICE agents that dumped into him, that's going to take a long time to investigate where their mind was at, you know?

[Mike]

Yeah. Because if you. But people don't understand is what goes into a shooting. And it goes both ways. Like my wife said it. Like she says, you have to get their statements first. You can't just find them all guilty off of a video. You have not. Each person has. Like me and you, right now, we're thinking about two totally different things. Yeah. We might be looking at the same thing, but our thoughts are completely elsewhere. So you'd have to interview them all. And then. I get it. You have to believe that they're going to tell the truth and that they're going to give an accurate statement. But what if nobody knew the gun was taken?

[Tyler]

What if. Yeah, that's why.

[Mike]

If they saw the holster, they saw an empty holster, could it be that maybe he's got the gun in his hand and then it goes off? So there's just a lot that goes into that. You can't just find them guilty either. When we say it was a bad shoot, it looks bad. You still have to interview everybody, give them an opportunity to what we hope is honestly answer questions and give their accurate account of what they felt, saw, smelled, tasted, everything that was going on in their brain when they decided to pull the trigger. They still have a fair opportunity to give their statement. And I'm not gonna go down the rabbit hole. Can they lie? Can they concoct? Can they make stuff up? Of course everybody can.

[Tyler]

But if you're gonna.

[Mike]

Yes, but if you're going to take it at face value and say you don't want to be. I wouldn't want to be judged on a video either. I got judged on the video. I got judged on my IA video with no context from any. No input of my own. Blasted all over the agency, shown everybody, and I didn't have a chance to defend myself or my statements weren't able to be brought in. So they can twist it however they want. It looks bad. You still have to investigate it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. That's going to take time. And that's something I'm telling you from Experience YouTube and Instagram does not care about.

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

Because by the time it all comes out, and let's just say ICE gives a different story and it's a logical one, all seven dudes were interviewed. None of them lied. And you're like, damn, this makes sense. No one's going to care at that point.

[Mike]

The only people that might care are the very middle people that look at it like I just said, Left's already made the decision. Rights already made their decision. He's. They're murderers. Kill him dead. Kill them all. Kill all the protesters. That's the other side. Somewhere in the middle, which I think is the majority is the regular people will go, okay. Like, I see what they're saying, and it's.

[Tyler]

It.

[Mike]

Things happen.

[Tyler]

Oh, man. I don't know. I just. I feel like.

[Jimmy]

Oh, it's so hard not to go.

[Tyler]

Darwinism. Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, you can go back to Jerry Worms's easy statement. If you don't resist, you're okay.

[Dominic]

Killed.

[Tyler]

You said it best. You don't have to it. You did it like a. You compared something, and at the end of the comparison, it's like, you don't feel bad for him. It was like a Trump that. All right, but either way, just because I think Selma is Darwinism and he almost asked for it, that doesn't mean he deserved to die. It'd be different if a gun was discharged and a bystander was hit that was going to the grocery. We'd all be like, oh, my God, that's awful. But because he was fighting the police, it changes your body.

[Mike]

Yes. You have to go. Nobody deserves a die for no reason. Then you can go, well, maybe there was a reason because of what he was doing. Does he still deserve to die? No. Did he put himself in a greater position to die? Yeah. Be like, skydivers have a higher risk of dying than everybody else. If you don't wear your seatbelt when you're driving, you have a higher risk of dying of everybody else. Do you deserve to die? No. But can you die easier because of what you do? Guys, the one video always gets me is that crawling those little tunnels in the. Like, little. And the guy. One guy got stuck there for like 32 hours. He was alive.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Stuck. It's like, what the. What.

[Tyler]

What.

[Mike]

What's the point of doing that? But he obviously has a much higher. I'm never gonna end up in that place. Well, there's a guy that climbed a building the other day on Netflix. A thousand, two thousand foot building or something with. No, no. So he has a higher chance of dying.

[Tyler]

When you see those people die, do you go, well, he deserved it.

[Mike]

Yeah. Not deserved it, but you kind of knew what you were getting into.

[Tyler]

So do you feel it's the same thing for this?

[Mike]

I. Yeah, he doesn't deserve to die. But yes, by going out armed and putting yourself in that scenario to act like you're acting, resisting, causing a scene, you increase the chances of this happening.

[Tyler]

You know, it's not his fault. You know, by clipping this right now, it makes you sound like you want him to die. Yeah. Correct. I wouldn't do that.

[Mike]

No, you can, because you can stop it right before I said that. But. But it. It. You can't argue statistically. If we sit in the studio all day, eat lunch here, don't go outside, our chances of dying just going to the store for me, going in the car and going down the Circle K, I've increased my chances of dying. Now I'm going to walk down the middle of the road on the way there. Now I'm really increased. Now I'm going to have, like, a dark object stuffed in my back. And every time I see a cop car, I'm going to reach for it like I'm playing games. Like, you increase your chances of getting dead the more things you do.

[Tyler]

I think that's where we. We're gonna lose a lot of people is the fact that a lot of people. A lot of people are gonna say, I think he deserves to die. It's not. Because then there's. Then there. You separate it, then there. There's deserve to die, and then I want him to. To die. Those are two separate things. Does he deserve to die? Yeah, he's gonna read it. Do I want.

[Mike]

Does he deserve to die? You got to reword that.

[Tyler]

Does he deserve it? Children, what if somebody gets punched in the face? And they. They deserved it.

[Mike]

They deserve to get punched in the face.

[Tyler]

We draw the line at your moral compass. I don't know.

[Mike]

I would go to. I would talk to your pastor this Sunday. And I want you to explain that Alex Peretti deserved to die. See if he. See if he pulls. See if he squeegees out your baptism, takes the. Takes water back and puts it back in the pool.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Mike]

I don't think he deserved to die.

[Dominic]

There's.

[Mike]

There's certain people that deserve to die. Pedophiles, people who are children. They deserve to die. He didn't deserve to die, but he put himself in a greater position to die.

[Dominic]

Not smart.

[Tyler]

I think I'm in. The more I. Okay. Are we allowed to speak freely?

[Mike]

You can do whatever you want, man.

[Tyler]

I feel like we're. You're in the. That area. I'm in the whole. He deserved it, but I didn't. I don't want that. I don't want.

[Mike]

I would rather the other. I'd rather you want him to die. He didn't deserve to die. You have to think about what you're saying. Dessert. He did something so egregious. He should have lost his life that day.

[Tyler]

He went and antagonized.

[Mike]

So did everybody else out there.

[Tyler]

I don't think they did it to his extent. I don't know, maybe deserve it.

[Mike]

A lady got pepper sprayed and he jumped on top of her to protect her from the mean, big bad ICE agents that were going to beat her up. He was going out like a man. A valiant night in the. In the day. Saving a lady he happened to have a gun on.

[Tyler]

All right, I need. All right, I need. Jimmy. Where you at? Jimmy? I can. No, he's not there yet. Lewis. He's not there.

[Mike]

Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Let's wait on.

[Mike]

Let's make sure Tyler clips apart where he said he deserves to die because I. Every time that happens, my liberal following goes up and my numbers inflate. So I need those. I need those numbers. Like I said, I. I deserve to die is a very poor way of putting it. Key put himself in a bad position. And I blame the city. I blame the city. I blame lack of police presence locally. The lack. And then your boy Holman's there now. Out of control. Tom Holman, the.

[Jimmy]

Hey, guys.

[Tyler]

Oh, so sorry about that.

[Jimmy]

I was listening to the show and. And in the chat and I saw.

[Tyler]

We'Re gonna bring Jimmy in kind of like periodically, probably for the next half hour and then after Dom come in for another for the screen splitting stake. But I saw you say play stupid games, win stupid prizes, Mike.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what Jimmy said.

[Tyler]

Yeah, let's hear it. That's exactly what I said.

[Mike]

Put it the other.

[Tyler]

There you go.

[Mike]

Good.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Dominic]

Explain that.

[Tyler]

Jimmy.

[Mike]

Murdering Jimmy. Explain that.

[Jimmy]

If you go out and with law enforcement and they react. We are dealing with humans in law enforcement, which means that they have the opportunity or the possibility that they might overreact or react.

[Mike]

Cops can overreact and kill people. I liked it. I'm going back to work.

[Jimmy]

I'm not saying that they should, but it is something that they can. That can happen.

[Mike]

So there is a. There's a. There's a force of the government called the police. And if you interact with the police kids, there's a chance they could kill you because you don't agree with them or you don't like what they're doing.

[Jimmy]

No, no, that's not what I said. Don't you put that evil on me.

[Mike]

Say it again. Tell me what you said again. I want to hear it again.

[Jimmy]

Okay, look. If you go out and you are involved in combat with the.

[Tyler]

He was.

[Jimmy]

What would you call it? What would you call it? He kicked.

[Mike]

Misdemeanor at best. Take the federal statute out of it. If there's a beating a federal officer, which is at best, I think.

[Jimmy]

I think destruction of government property. That's a different case.

[Mike]

That's a different case.

[Tyler]

I think anybody would call him combative. Combative patient. Combative arrest. Okay.

[Mike]

Can you kill a combative person?

[Tyler]

Yeah, you can.

[Mike]

No, you.

[Jimmy]

I'm not saying that. Listen, this is.

[Mike]

You have to be in threat that of great bodily harm for yourself or.

[Tyler]

Others or your tail light.

[Jimmy]

Right?

[Mike]

That's not what cases here.

[Jimmy]

Another world, dude. Homeboy was. Was, was detained, yes or no? He was detained at the point.

[Mike]

Did you see him get told he was? I saw a bunch of guys beating him up.

[Tyler]

That you're detained if you.

[Mike]

I mean, physically can't leave. Well, well, well, what happened the first time he was beaten to detain. Did he go to. We don't even know if he went to jail.

[Tyler]

That's what we need to figure out.

[Mike]

All right?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So at the point that you are now in a scuffle. All right, a kerfuffle, even with law enforcement. I don't care if they're ICE agents or not. At the moment that it's like, hey, it's game on. I go out there and protest all you want. I'm happy for it. Do use your First Amendment right. But the moment that you go like, hey, they're hands on with me. I'm getting arrested now. That's what's happening. Okay, Stop fighting.

[Mike]

Okay, so basically when you're. Did we see the same video?

[Tyler]

The last dude, he.

[Mike]

He was on all. He's on all fours.

[Tyler]

I know. It kind of looked similar.

[Mike]

All fours. He's getting hit in the skull with a pepper spray can. Being punched by multiple people. It goes back to, like. And I know how you feel about it, because you want everybody to die. It goes back to Memphis when the five black dudes beat the black dude to death on the street corner. He said he has five, six agents pound pounding him at one point. I want. I want to have an example. Anybody wants to do it, I want one guy in here. We're all gonna punch him, and at the same time, tell him to stop resisting. I want to see him lay flat on the ground, go down.

[Tyler]

We talked about the same thing with a canine and give up.

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

You know what, though?

[Mike]

What do you expect him to do?

[Tyler]

I don't think Mike for sheriff is a good idea, guys. He's gonna get rid of canine. No.

[Mike]

You can bite everybody. That's how you have to do it. Right? You just have to do it the right way.

[Tyler]

My question to you guys is, do you think it's possible that ICE had him profiled and so they already dealt with him one time? And the second time they dealt with them, they escalated because based off of them knowing who's a fighter, I would.

[Jimmy]

Say that that is a likely possibility. They've already dealt with this guy in this place. Like, he's probably like, hey, this. I don't know if it would be a bolo. It'd be a BOLO for us. Like, hey, this right here. Known agitator. We already had dealings with him before. People went hands on. If you see him, you know, heightened state already.

[Mike]

The ace of spades.

[Jimmy]

Kill him. All right? I mean, you know, we joke about that multiple times. Yeah, dude. I mean, like, that. That was a weirdo. Okay?

[Dominic]

And.

[Jimmy]

And went out and been around, mind you.

[Tyler]

Jimmy with a gun. He did all this with a gun in his waistband. At the fact that we're starting to be. It starts to feel okay to say you deserve to die.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

I'm not.

[Tyler]

I don't want it.

[Jimmy]

I'm not saying he deserved to die. He did nothing that warranted his death. What he did do was make a bunch of dumbass decisions that led to his death. Understandably so. That's.

[Tyler]

I'm driving.

[Mike]

Here we go. I'm driving down the road. I got my legal carry in my back. Yeah, I'm dui.

[Dominic]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I've had a couple.

[Dominic]

I'VE had a couple.

[Mike]

Jimmy. Jimmy drinks. A couple. I thought they were. Thought they were cokes. They were actually straight bourbon. I pull over, I've been drinking. I got a gun in my back. I get out of the car, hey, you're under arrest. I'm not going. I tussle, I hit the ground. They see my gun, they take it off me, and then they kill me. I deserve to die. In that same scenario, if three or four cops are punching me and hitting me and kicking me, I never reach for my gun.

[Tyler]

Cops went and found you.

[Mike]

Yeah. Driving drunk.

[Tyler]

In this scenario, he went and found the cops.

[Jimmy]

It would be more like.

[Mike]

I don't think he followed them around. I think they happened to be where.

[Jimmy]

He ran up to them.

[Tyler]

You see it in the video?

[Mike]

Here we go. State of Florida has a halo rule now. You can't go 25ft within a cop.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah, it's new law.

[Tyler]

When did that come out?

[Jimmy]

July.

[Tyler]

Oh, they passed a bunch of stuff. Yeah, in July.

[Mike]

So if I'm. If I'm.

[Dominic]

You know.

[Tyler]

You also can't report on a cop anonymously now. Yeah, I was a little late for.

[Mike]

My case, but the progressive guy wouldn't be able to do that. So let's say we're beating. Let's say we're. We're giving some distractionary blows to a guy that was peacefully protesting here, and we're start beating him up.

[Tyler]

Okay, sounds everybody.

[Mike]

Everybody else has to stay 25ft away. State law. You can't come within 25ft and hinder my. If they walk in those 25ft, can I kill them?

[Tyler]

If they have a gun and you've already can't see it.

[Mike]

Can't see the gun.

[Tyler]

Listen, dude, I'm not saying that he. He. It was justified. I don't even even.

[Mike]

You said he deserved it.

[Tyler]

That's my personal opinion.

[Jimmy]

What I said was if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. You.

[Mike]

You know what? I apologize. That's probably the most intelligent thing. Way more intelligent than anything Tyler said. You're right. You're right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you're right.

[Mike]

If I jump out, like, I guess that goes back to. If I jump from a plane three times a day, my likelihood of dying are very, very high.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

If I do it armed by peacefully protesting, my chances are really high.

[Jimmy]

If Clearwater Squat. If Clearwater SWAT was doing a hit on the trap house next door, not mine. Yeah, you know.

[Mike]

Hide the drugs and Jimmy's not here today. Yeah, and he uses a SWAT story from Clearwater pd.

[Jimmy]

Well, I Live in Safety harbor, so.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, you're right. So Safety Harbor Agency investigation.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So it would. It would probably be a pcso, but. So if PCSO comes in with their SWAT team and, and they are doing something in the house next door, and I go over there with my gun and start with the cops who are clearly doing something else, my likelihood of getting beat to get the snot beat out of me and going to jail is pretty damn high. And my likelihood of getting shot is way higher than if I stayed in the house.

[Mike]

It is.

[Tyler]

And here's the dark humor in me. Right. All right.

[Mike]

It's ought to be good.

[Tyler]

You got a friend, and he's your friend. Dude. But he makes bad decisions.

[Jimmy]

Yep.

[Tyler]

And he dies in some kind of crazy way. And you're like, I saw that coming. Like, they kind of deserved it. I don't want him to.

[Mike]

I don't know. The dessert. I think you're in the ballpark.

[Dominic]

You just.

[Mike]

You need a gym.

[Dominic]

Jimmy.

[Mike]

Word.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Not deserve. Deserve is like he earned. Like, there's a difference between, like, being dumb and being intentionally, like, intentionally doing things, like, maliciously.

[Tyler]

I think he maliciously and intentionally did all of that stuff. Am I wrong, Jimmy?

[Jimmy]

No, I, I, I, I think that he went out there, first of all. He clearly went out there with some intent. He went out there intending to interfere with ice. That is what he did. Do. We know that he went out there and made a conscious decision to be armed. Now, I'm not saying that he had malicious intent to be armed, nor does he not have the reason to be or the right to be armed. He has both of those. You can be armed to the teeth as far as I'm concerned. But if you make the decision to go and mess with ICE and be armed, you are asking for bigger problems than you would. If you don't mess with ICE or you don't. You mess with ice, but you make sure I ain't armed. So what? What he did was now create a situation where everybody in the world could go, but he was armed. But he was armed. Because I guarantee you, had he not had a gun on him, no one would say a goddamn word. We'd all be like, he's dead. And that was, he should have never died.

[Tyler]

That way.

[Mike]

They have.

[Jimmy]

He created a situation where his martyrdom, which he was probably okay with, is now null and void because he had a gun on him.

[Mike]

Well, he did. When he died, he did not have a gun on him. The agent had been. The agents had soul possession and control of the only device that he could possess that would have hurt anybody was in the possession of the United States government and fired by the United States government. What led to him getting shot seven times. So you could say there were already guns at the scene, so we can't say the gun is the problem. He didn't fire the gun. He didn't even pull the gun out. Somebody else grabbed his gun. His second amendment right to possess the gun, took his gun, seized his gun like a government agent, and then fired it.

[Jimmy]

He met his deserved fate.

[Mike]

Oh, now he deserves.

[Jimmy]

Because he. He made a bunch of bad decisions prior to his interaction with.

[Tyler]

All right, well, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna. I'm gonna give y' all a scenario. I'm gonna go, mike, I'm gonna give a scenario, and then I'm gonna evolve it into where our own morality stands. Okay, okay. All right. I'm cop. I'm a cop, Mike.

[Dominic]

You're.

[Tyler]

You're OG Gang banger, dude. You play by the rules. You don't give me no trouble there. I respond to a shooting. You're standing there, guns on the ground, and you're like. Everybody's like, he did. He did it. He's like. And you go. And you turn off your body camera. Not saying you would do this, but.

[Mike]

You go, yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, okay, now that's okay.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

But you flip that into, like, a child predator, and then you think, like, that is overall, like, morally. Everybody can get on board killing a child predator. We can. People dying. They deserve it. But this guy doesn't. And I'm not saying they're even close to the same. But what I'm trying to get at is it's like, all spectrum that we're all on.

[Mike]

But, yes, I get it. But let's take the worst thing this guy did. He interfered with the agents. Big bad agents with guns, driving around at the word. I don't care what you spend. The worst thing you can put out on that video is he interfered with agents. So if that's a federal crime, cool. Take it to the state level. I'll dumb it down. He resisted arrest or obstructed justice. Misdemeanor in Florida, 90 days. Or is it a misdemeanor? One under a year in jail, maximum. Nobody ever gets it.

[Tyler]

Laws. They can have guns, right?

[Mike]

Well, he has a permit.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Tyler]

So he was lawfully.

[Mike]

Lawfully caring. So at the worst. The worst thing he did, and if you slow it down and go back, the other chick gets Pepper sprayed. And he kind of blocks ice from getting on top of her. So the left calls him a hero. And I'm being, I'm being serious. They'll look at it like he was defending a female that was being attacked by ice. Strip all your thoughts about it and take away all the other stuff he's defending. He died defending a female that was being pepper sprayed. He did. It's on video. It's on video. The worst crime he committed was interfering in a government roundup of illegal immigrants. Do you deserve.

[Tyler]

I think he, the worst crime he committed, that's not really a crime. The worst thing he did is not a crime. He agitated an already really, really combustible situation that everybody on the highest level has been failing at. And he made a conscious decision to go light a match. And.

[Mike]

He died on all fours, unarmed, and got shot.

[Tyler]

That's because he didn't die on all fours the first time.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, if we're gonna, if we're gonna have this conversation, I mean, do we, do we know for a fact it was the agent's booger hooker that made that SIG go off, or just Sig?

[Tyler]

I think probability wise, it's not even worth entertaining the chances of SIG going off on its own in that scenario. Yeah, I'm sure that, I'm sure that's going to be brought up in that guy's investigation.

[Jimmy]

But I, I, I, the, the point to me is, is this, is that your likelihood of you win all of the gunfights, you don't get into all of them, you win them. And this is something that I had to learn, the difference between being in the infantry and being a contractor, because our job was not to go out and get into a gunfight. Our job was to avoid all the gunfights. And if a gunfight happened, to run away with style. Okay? We were getting the out of there. One of the first problems I had in training was a gunfight started, and I did exactly what I knew to do as an infantryman, which is go to the sound of the guns, get down, start talking the guns start doing all that. They're like, hey, dude, did you have a target? No, I had a suspected enemy location. Okay, well, that's not going to work. You're, you're a contractor. Okay, why did you move to the gunfight? What's your job? My job is to protect the principal. Okay, well, get the off the X and protect the principal. You win all the gunfights, you don't get into. If you go have an altercation with law enforcement. I don't care if it's ICE or border patrol or the sheriffs. Your likelihood of bad interactions to. Up to including death, because they have that power, and they are still humans. That's.

[Dominic]

That You're.

[Jimmy]

You're. You're elevating your likelihood of death, especially with these ICE guys, because we've already established they don't have the interaction training or experience like you and Mike do. You and Mike in that situation, it would have been the two of you. That guy would have been in cuffs and in the car. In about 30 seconds, it would have been over. He wouldn't have been killed, and he wouldn't be dead.

[Tyler]

I would have been at lunch. Mike.

[Mike]

I still try to figure out where the. He.

[Tyler]

He.

[Mike]

He. The gunfight term baffles me, because he was unarmed. He's not. He didn't get in a gun.

[Jimmy]

I. I was one way.

[Tyler]

Well, he went into a gunfight and then lost his gun.

[Jimmy]

I use the term gunfight as a. As a. As a. A catch. All four.

[Mike]

He reached. Pulled it out.

[Tyler]

Dude.

[Mike]

Swiss cheese, man. He was unarmed.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they.

[Jimmy]

They took.

[Mike]

Where you make the case.

[Dominic]

He was.

[Tyler]

My thing is, it's an imperfect.

[Dominic]

Which.

[Tyler]

This guy was doing what he did in a really unstable environment. Now, had it been a couple street cops on a traffic stop, you know, taking a dude to jail for dope, warrants, guns, whatever, and this guy rolled up with his camera phone, and that happened, I think it would have ended way different. But this is. Like I said, it's a highly combustible situation. There's so many things up in Minneapolis right now, from the bottom to the top, and this guy chose to go interject himself and then light a match.

[Mike]

All right. Tristan just said it best. Everybody's right.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

It's a bad idea, and it's a bad shooting. But when I used to work bad. Let me take that back, because I'm contradicting myself if I say that we haven't got all the facts. You know, how at the face value, it's. It wasn't smart for what he did and the way he did it. And maybe the tactics weren't best by law enforcement involved. I'm not gonna say it's a bad shooting because everybody hasn't been interviewed, but both people made poor decisions.

[Tyler]

I've got your conspiracy, Mike.

[Mike]

Go ahead.

[Tyler]

I've got it.

[Jimmy]

Got it.

[Tyler]

The simulation we're all in.

[Mike]

Go ahead.

[Tyler]

You notice we don't even talk about the illegal Somalis anymore.

[Mike]

That. Well, I watched that last night I was going to get to that. Oh, you are there. Everybody's take on this is. This is. This is too distract. They said it's the only city in the United States with any issues with ICE right now being broadcast. And it comes on the cusp of tens and billions of dollars being fraudulently distributed to Somalians. That is. That is the conspiracy. Put your tinfoil hat on.

[Tyler]

All right?

[Jimmy]

All this.

[Mike]

All this is made up because they're hiding the Somalian fraud from you.

[Jimmy]

Oh, this is. This is an absolute God.

[Mike]

I want you to forget about it. You could sprinkle a little Epstein in there. You can spring a little moon landing. JFK, 911, the Jews. You can sprinkle every. Every. All your conspiracies, you can sprinkle in. But if you're gonna go full blown Alex Jones tinfoil hat conspiracy, you're being distracted from the $10 billion that were.

[Tyler]

I did. It's. That was self realization right there. I'm sitting here going, okay, let's move on. I was like, we're gonna recap that. We're gonna cap this argument with common sense. And I was like, this is all because of the politicians. And I'm like, wait a minute. Because I was like, oh, holy. That's so Bali fraud.

[Mike]

Yeah, I totally forgot about 100. That is your. If you're gonna go conspiracy. That's why it's happening. Because think about it. It's going on. They're raiding every city. Every major city has ICE in it all over. Even little Vera beach, where I live. People are posting nices here. It's all over The United States, L.A. chicago, everywhere. Yeah, Philly, everywhere. The head. Not only that, go ahead, put it back. Tighten it up. Get the tinfoil nice and tight. You got the head. ICE walk around looking like Hitler or an SS soldier in Minius in Minneapolis to draw even more. Then you got Christy Noem. Christy Gnome.

[Tyler]

I don't even know who that is.

[Mike]

Good.

[Jimmy]

Christy. No, that's. That's Ice Barbie.

[Mike]

Watch this. Watch this video. Watch this video.

[Tyler]

No way.

[Mike]

You got the head of ice. Look at this.

[Tyler]

We are with Marco and Brian today. They're letting me roll with them. We're gonna go out, pick up somebody.

[Jimmy]

Who I think is got charges of human trafficking out of here earlier.

[Tyler]

Had an option.

[Jimmy]

So appreciate the woodwork that they do every day.

[Tyler]

And we appreciate. Who is that?

[Mike]

That is the head of department.

[Tyler]

That's it.

[Mike]

That's the top dog.

[Tyler]

That's Trump hsi.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's her she's in charge of.

[Tyler]

Everything, dude, first of all.

[Mike]

So you got this, you got her up there, you got the dude walking around looking like SS soldier in the minute. And it's. The only place it's happening is, is Minneapolis.

[Tyler]

I. I know for a fact they were like, wear that jacket. And he's like, I don't know, man. I've been in law enforcement for 30 years. It's probably not a good look. And they're like, no, it's a perfect look.

[Mike]

No, we're into the jacket, so.

[Jimmy]

Oh, that's a bingo.

[Mike]

And that gets people talking like, look at these Nazis and everything. Both sides are going, he died. He deserves to die. He's innocent. They look like Hitler.

[Tyler]

They're.

[Mike]

They're killing our people. They're taking their jobs, they're doing the whole thing. Meanwhile, billions of dollars was illegally obtained during daycare, brought for and it's gone. Nobody's talking about it.

[Tyler]

I remember, dude, it's like, it feels like a year ago, but I mean, remember when like that the rioting started right around the time that the guy goes, somebody broke into our thing and stole the registration.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And then somebody just recently went and stalked this dude. I'm sure it's all been out there, but he's got a mansion, cars, he's at VIP events. He's got like, obviously the, the type of women that you, you pay for, like, all around him, like Dan Brazerian style. Like, I mean, he flaunts his money and he's a Somalian immigrant. Yeah. Not saying that that can't happen for you legally, but I'm just, I'm just saying what are the chances? Like a sick going off by itself.

[Mike]

Some people say happened a lot.

[Tyler]

So therefore, do you have any more. What can we, can we go dive deeper into this whole. Why do you think, do you think this is a George Soros esque thing?

[Mike]

Well, we know, you know, the signal groups are a thing and they're paid and they have people infiltrated. Both sides are up. You know, people infiltrated in the signal group. Then you have a Democrat.

[Tyler]

Wait, what happened?

[Mike]

There's a signal group with.

[Tyler]

There.

[Mike]

Somebody infiltrated the group and like, sees that they're planning, they're falling ice, they're being paid. Like they're.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Wait, what?

[Mike]

Yeah, that's all over. They're hiding that from.

[Tyler]

Okay, well, what happened?

[Mike]

People that have infiltrated signal groups that are seeing like, they're being paid to stay in hotels. They're getting tips on where ICE is going to be they're doing all this in a very organized.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, that I've been, I've been leaving this to Mike, but Mike's exactly right. A lot of these groups are, they're agitators, they're communist agitators, they're being paid and funded by Soros and other non state actors or pop. You know, they're not, I mean it's, it's, it's blatantly obvious that this is planned by somebody else. And, and this is exactly what they want to happen. They want, they want negative engagements with law enforcement to stop what they're trying to do. And here's the bottom line on this. Trump has, has pulled so many immigrants out of Minnesota that it's very likely they're going to lose a, a congressional seat and the state's probably going to flip next year because there's so many voters that now can't vote because they've.

[Mike]

Killed so many people.

[Jimmy]

But think about what that means is that they have for a while now kept themselves in power due to illegals voting in our elections that have. And that's what they're really pissed off about and that's why we've got these non state actors and George Soros and all this other happening. This is about power and, and the illusion of control and the elite and the real power that's going to be behind it.

[Tyler]

My favorite thing in the world is reading a comment saying somebody's out and watching the View count go up. That was just. I'm sorry. But yes, obviously this is a huge ploy to get us distracted from what's really going on. Which is, blows my mind that that Somali fraud, have they made any arrests in it? Have they prosecuted anybody? Do we know? Maybe Dominic knows at the at least a little bit on there.

[Mike]

How about the fact that once it was discovered in Minnesota, there was also reports it was discovered in like Washington and Oregon and then all of a sudden that's now that's gone too. Like they started confront people in other states and now it's just gone. Never happened.

[Jimmy]

So I mean right now there's a lot of people that are be there. It looks like they're mopping up the bottom of the Somalis. They're, they're, they're, they're starting at the bottom and working their way up to the big fish.

[Tyler]

I don't even think. Well, the one girl went to jail for assaulting it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, this Agent Rice and Banana girl.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That interview was before she went to jail though, right? With the bandaid on her head. Yeah. And what do you know? Does anybody know how she. How that went down?

[Mike]

I'm gonna.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna look at right now.

[Tyler]

She assaulted an ice agent. And does anybody know what happened to the dude wearing glasses in the Yankee hat?

[Mike]

The rich guy?

[Tyler]

No, I don't know. Does anybody know what happened to the girl that. I mean, on. On live tv, Obviously, fraud is bad. Anybody remember that?

[Jimmy]

So, I mean, the, The. Yes. So this Nasra Ahmed, the girl with the. The band aid on her head in her detention photo, she doesn't have any band aids and she looks just fine. So I don't know what the band aid came from. I guess she was trying to be 50 Cent.

[Tyler]

Maybe they said 50.

[Jimmy]

Or is it Nelly? It was Nelly that did that show.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

Yeah, good. Is the dumbest episode. That's one comment. This is the dumbest episode ever.

[Tyler]

What's. What's I want? I want Dom. That. I want. Dominic is. Is in. Let's bring him in. And I want his opinion. Now, Dominic, we were talking about. Okay, like the difference.

[Mike]

I'll just watch.

[Tyler]

All right. Wanting someone to.

[Mike]

To remove Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Bye, Jimmy. Wanting someone to die and then just being logical and being like, well, absolutely, I do not want them to die. And it's not right. They died. But he deserved it.

[Mike]

What about it?

[Tyler]

What's your take?

[Mike]

Give it to him, Dom.

[Dominic]

I don't give a. I want people to die all the time. I got a ton of people I can't stand.

[Tyler]

I can sit here and say that. It does. Somebody doesn't need to die. I don't want them to die.

[Dominic]

I'll say this publicly. We have a Republican operative out here in the Chicago area named Val Ojeda who came after family ruthlessly when I ran for office. And he's just one of the most abhorrent human beings on the planet. And I told my sister the other day, I, I, as a. I Pray for him. But I hope he gets the worst case of ass cancer on the planet. And he had so much painful before he dies. But I'm not gonna do anything about it. It's what I wish.

[Tyler]

That's how I know you're a good cop, Dom. You can, you could want, you could say like that dude deserves to be hurt real bad.

[Dominic]

But I'm not gonna be the one to do it just because I want to do it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Would you guys talk about on we covered this.

[Mike]

We talked well first we talked about the guy with the vacuum and then.

[Dominic]

And we're all wrong because I've been listening to your show and I know what's really going on. I, I, I'm willing to drop the truth of what's going on on your show exclusively, nowhere else. So the antihero podcast is going to be the one. I mean, if there's enough tinfoil hats passing around. If I were going to write a Hollywood script, this is the greatest movie I would ever write. I would take a problem that needs to be solved. And that is there's a bunch of lizard people all over the world running the elites. Right? And that's what they are, right? The QAnon phenomenon needs to be rebolstered. The adrenal chrome and the human trafficking and all that. And how would I do that if I was going to kind of bring that back up in the American public? Well, here's what I would do. I would acknowledge after centuries that, yeah, we got an elite vampire class that loves to, you know, eat children and drink their blood and all this kind of stuff. So that means there's a supply and a demand issue. Well, our supply comes from across the border. Mexico. It's the easiest way to get across. Not Canada, because who the hell wants to go through that freezing? So through the south, people are going to come back up here. Now the cartels grow, man, they're growing and they are putting a chokehold on taxes, man. Like, you want a 14 year old man, you're gonna have to pay X amount of dollars. They're just squeezing the out of us. So we have to solve this problem because the elites need their baby blood. This is how you do it. You take the world's greatest showman and world's greatest salesman and go. Don't. Hey, listen, we've seen the Apprentice. We see the numbers, we see you're a master negotiator. This is what you got to do because you're part of the system. We need you to run for president.

[Mike]

I Don't know.

[Dominic]

All right, run for president. We're gonna make sure you win in 2016. He wins in 2016. He forms a base, a MAGA crowd. We're gonna call them MAGA. Make America great again. During that time when his base is going to be bolstered up to a feverish level which will do anything for him, we're going to sit there and say, hey, listen, we got to orchestrate this so you don't win the next election because we got to get Joe in there. Joe's going to get all the bleeding heart liberals to sit there and say, open up the border. Because we're a country of humanity and we're going to flood the living on a new product. You want a 2 year old, we're going to get you 22 year olds because they breed like you have no idea. And we're going to stick them all up in this place where we've had this daycare operation going. Nobody knows about it, dude, it's been going up there. You put a body in there, the body disappears the next day. But still the paper trail. All right, I'll do it, I'll do it, I'll do it. So then you flood the nation. You got a ton of new product. The cartel is all pissed the off because now you don't go through them to get your. And then all of a sudden, wait a second, somebody opened up their. Somebody flapped their gums and they exposed this about the daycare front. So now I go, yeah, I gotta mobilize these troops. I gotta got, oh, this MAGA crowd. All right, all these people who came across the border, they're rapists and pedophiles and we need to get them out of here. So what do we. I need an army now. I need an army of masked people who came from the cartel and they know how this works. We're going to hit the streets of Minnesota. We're going to take all these illegals that we let over. We got to move them. We got to move them those underground bunkers that we've been digging for the last 70 years and we got to stick them up underneath there. And Americans are going to be like, that's right, get these maggots and out of this country and all this stuff. And nobody's gonna know the wiser. This is nothing than human. It's more than human trafficking. They've been doing it forever. They got a brilliant salesman to show us how to usurp the primary suppliers. You take your, you take your product, you Go over to Mexico. You clip the best leaf from an orange tree, you plant it in the United States so that when Mexico was man. Hey, no, that's ours. It's ours now, bitch. You're growing them here and you don't have to go through your guy anymore. There's no markup on your inventory. This was all for human trafficking.

[Mike]

That's my theory. Largest human trafficking operation in the history of mankind happening right in front of.

[Dominic]

Your eyes, telling you, dude, I know everything.

[Tyler]

You don't just think you have Somalians wanting free money because we're.

[Dominic]

I don't think they know.

[Mike]

I.

[Dominic]

No, I don't think it's them. Well, it's, it's like the Mafia, right? You, you have a bunch of immigrants come over and then Italians extort their own. So you, yeah, you're gonna have, how do I say this without being insulting? And I. It's just education, right. You're gonna have less intelligent people from other countries come over and theirs, their elite, if you will, is going to put them into people in the place to extort them. So, yeah, I do. But at the same time, I just find it extremely odd, maybe even ironic that we did. We had a hardcore group of people, millions, that literally believe that there was a massive human trafficking thing going on 10 years ago than even just a couple years ago with Sound of Freedom, they thought about it again, but nobody thinks it happens on American soil. And the only reason I paint that giant fantasy about that is can anybody really say where all those illegals who have just. If they're saying we picked up 3,000 people per day, where are they all going? I mean, you've been in law enforcement. Can you imagine the man?

[Mike]

Yeah, the talking points in the election were what did we hear for years? Overcrowded facilities, kids in cages. We haven't heard that once in two years. We were, yeah, we were full under Biden. It went from Obama to, to Trump to Biden where we were complaining about the border. We couldn't house everybody. You haven't heard that once? No. Trump's been in office a year. You haven't heard one complaint about over, over facilities.

[Dominic]

Mike and I were talking about it yesterday where I, where, you know, everyone wants to say, well, Obama deported 3.2 million people and Trump is at 0.6 million. And Mike and I talked about it, said, well, yeah, but Obama had an eight year time span to do that. Trump has been doing it in the last six months. Trump's numbers are worse. It makes Trump look like the bigger Deporter. But again, if you look at all this and your conspiracy theory, what a great way to increase your product load and have homegrown distribution and bypass the. The cartels that have been choking you off at the nuts for decades by demanding you pay more money. So I, I honestly think this is part of their human trafficking organization because who the hell cares about.

[Tyler]

All right, turn it off. Not you. No, Lewis is gonna have to turn off. Turn it back on.

[Mike]

Testing, testing.

[Tyler]

We're here. They can hear you. Yeah, we, we lost you for a second.

[Dominic]

My point is to be honest when you think about it, and I'm not being an. But clearly conservatives are back. Maga's backing up my views now. Isn't it amazing how we go from a time where, well, not all cops, not all black people, that. But now it's Christy Gnome goes up and she talks about 3,000 people were arrested that day, holds up four, five mug shots of serious criminals. And that percentage all of a sudden equates to all illegals are pedophiles and rapists.

[Jimmy]

It's.

[Dominic]

It is brilliant mind brainwashing, mind control crap to get people to vilify. And at the end of the day, I, I don't want to be an ass. Who the is going to care about some Somali kid that nobody knows about or some Hispanic kid when we're focusing on making America a great Christian nation again? We're, we're demonizing a group of people, ridding them of their humanity. Because when you want to take the cattle, the slaughter, it's a slaughter. You don't want to look at them as fuzzy pets. They're your food.

[Tyler]

Yeah, and you brought up a great point. I've always thought about this. When I heard all of these, some, this, this little girl was raped by this illegal alien. I'm like, that's awful. First off, face value, oh my God, that's awful. But am I supposed to forget about all the people that are raped by American citizens too, just to fit that narrative? I mean, that they're illegal.

[Mike]

We talked about that. Like Lake and Riley gets brought up. And I think both sides are guilty of pimping out people to like we see it in the shootings and this guy's name is the most popular, George Floyd. But that's what they use Lake and Riley for is like the one, she was killed by an illegal. So that means every one of them is bad, right? Every single legal that walked across the border is a rapist and a killer is what they're trying to tell Us. So that when these bad things like this shooting happens, it's like, well, these are going to happen. When you're rounding up the worst of the worst, you know, this is collateral damage for the worst. And it's not.

[Dominic]

All three of us live through this. The.

[Jimmy]

The.

[Dominic]

The litmus test. Nine, 11, what? Five hijackers. And then all of a sudden, at that time, every person with a brown skin tone was a terrorist.

[Mike]

I.

[Dominic]

We. Oh, we. I was a cop at that point. It was. I hated everybody who wore a turban and had brown skin because the government told me that five men that looked like this destroyed America. So they've done this before.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, happy birthday, T. Hey, thanks, man.

[Dominic]

How old are you?

[Tyler]

38.

[Dominic]

Are you. That's it, you child. Oh, my God. Did the other ball drop yet?

[Tyler]

I got grades, man. I got grades.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you got Grayson.

[Tyler]

What's everybody's stances on what Minneapolis PD should be doing by now? By now, I feel like Minneapolis PD has had enough time to weigh their badge against their. Their morality or their heart. They haven't. They've looked at themselves in the mirror enough to go, we, we are the cops. So we can sit there and we can blame the politicians, we can blame our chief, we can blame our mayor, we can blame this and blame that. But at the end of the day, the Minneapolis people look at us for law and order. Do you think they should start taking accountability and either leaving the job or. Because that they can't do. They can't act on their own because that's. I'm assuming that's like striking and you're not allowed to strike. So what do you guys think about that?

[Dominic]

Didn't we talk about that last week with Uvalde? Again, I. I have no faith in law enforcement across the board at all when it comes down to putting American people first. You looked at the law enforcement has a historical standard set where they will not support the American people. You saw two American cities. Well, I. I don't know if this is the same Chaz and Chop. I don't know if this is the same area, but I know those two cities where the police were stood. The source of stand down. You heard horrible stories about 17, 18, 19 minute response times of alleged rapes because a mayor told a police chief to stand down, cops let their cities be overrun. We all saw the BLM and Antifa riots where cops were 100% being just told to stand down while your city burned. We saw it was right around Ferguson where there's a police Department that was set on fire, but it was not in Ferguson. Again, cops did nothing. When you fast forward to the lockdown, well, it was. You're on a beach by yourself, not wearing a mask. You're going to jail. You're in church. We have Ian Smith, Patriot Barbie. Their business is destroyed. Ian Smith had over a million dollars in fines, and the police kept showing up to arrest him for his gym. It's the same thing. So why do we expect any difference when it comes down? And Mike and I talk about this all the time. How many times that we get people who are being our DMs. Love what you do, man. Hold police accountable. This and that and it. And we got to the point where I know I say what I do is. It is entertainment at this point, because I can spout off all I want about bad cops, this and that, but you are watching my stuff. You're at roll call, talking with your guys about it. You go in the street, you say, man, I hate Izzo, but he's right. And you do nothing about it. The active American police officer on duty is the only one that could step up and say, this is wrong. And they keep dropping the ball. They can't strike. Sure as shit. What they can do is go, hey, Chief. You have no idea what you're doing, Sarge. You have no idea what you're doing. We're going to suspend you, and we're going to go take our streets back. God knows there's men in those departments that could lead it, but they're. They're cowards who. They have to honor their paycheck instead of their oath.

[Tyler]

Yes, that. That. That big myth, Your retirement, your pension, everything, it's all on the line. And I mean, I look at, like when you were talking about the riots, I mean, it's all the same. You know what? It's easy to tell people. Well, why is there crime? Well, our. Our hands are shackled, ma'. Am. Our hands are shackled. That's a good argument. All day long as far as generality. But when my business is burned down, everything I had was in that building. I have no one to bail me out. My life is over. And you guys stood over there three blocks down and. And listened to orders that allowed arson. Arson.

[Mike]

Yeah, I agree. At some point, there's a chain of command in law enforcement. And it's not as bad as the military. What's the military? You have the U.S. you know, you can be arrested under their code for whatever. Here in the law enforcement world, I don't give a if you made a. You passed a test and made sergeant. You passed a test to make lieutenant. At the end of the day, we all put our hand on the same bible or the same con and swore to the same constitution to uphold the constitution for the people. And we're getting to the point now. I agree with you Dom, that somebody the mass which is we're asking all the citizens to do this. What about the cops who are. Who are swore to be at a higher standard. When are the cops going to look at their chain of command and go you. You're letting our people get killed. Your policies and your lack of enforcement is letting businesses get overrun, letting churches get taken down, letting. We're going to stop it. What are you gonna do? I have a gun. I have the constitutional power because you passed a test and you're my sergeant. You can tell me not to go enforce the law. You. That's what's got to happen. And that goes into the tick tock cops. That goes into the training, that goes into everything else. The rank and file cops have to go.

[Tyler]

You.

[Mike]

Just because you have a gold badge and mine's silver does not mean you can stop me from enforcing the constitution which I swore to uphold.

[Dominic]

Oh but wait, wait, let's rewind. Two weeks ago, you just prove why that will never happen. Because now, oh, look at Mike, man, company man shining your boots today. Mike goes ahead and he makes that speech which every cop should honor. And the next thing you know, I'm gonna be looking at Tyler after roll call.

[Tyler]

Go.

[Dominic]

The has gotten in the end today. I'm gonna go get my.

[Mike]

He's right. He's ripe. Why did he say that? I got a truck payment due. Yeah, I got my. You know, my bills are. I can't. That's the problem. That's the problem. And I saw it when I got promoted, when I saw it within my age, when I started to make sense like that, when they wanted to put general guys that have never worked a homicide on call for homicide for the weekend. I'm like, what the are you guys talking like basic dumb that no corporation would go, hey Dominic, you're the bakery manager for the supermarket. We're gonna have you go cut meat today. Like I've never done that. Like, why would you make me do that? But the bottom line is you guys have to step up as cops and say I am work for the people, the constitution. I'm not going to enforce illegal, unethical, immoral laws for politicians. That's what's Got to happen.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And you can't be the. The whole pension thing cannot scare you because you have the right to all of your retirement. So if you do 15, 20 years, let's face it, first off, and this is my. It might sound minute, to be honest with you, but this is very important. Guys that are ride trying to get to that 20, 25 year mark where they're like, I'm safe if I can just get to here. And that's where they start losing their character. And they'll do things that, you know, other people should put the badge up for. And it's like, dude, you can take all of that money and continue with your own retirement doing something else. There's a lot of money in that retirement. I know because I did it. I retired early. And holy guacamole, there's a lot in there.

[Mike]

So do you know what the difference between my five years I left early was? 900 bucks a month.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

For your 900amonth, for your dignity. I could go work at Wawa three days a week and make 900 extra dollars a month. That was the difference in me going, I'm gonna sell my soul to this sheriff, sit like a. In an office and, and take orders from a bunch of. Or I'm gonna go, you, I'm out. And I said, you, I'm out. And at the end of the day, which guys don't plan ahead, it was 900 difference. 900 bucks.

[Tyler]

You.

[Mike]

You can keep your money. I can make 900 bucks sleeping. I'm not staying to sell my soul to this job. For 900.

[Tyler]

I can make a sticker. Make 900 a day, dog.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah. I can have Dom on. Say the N word and we'll get clicked. It's been a while.

[Dominic]

No.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Yeah, man. I think I, I think we focused on the, the Minnesota stuff to the extent that there's really. We're just waiting on new info. We're waiting to see if he was actually detained the first time. So January 13, when that first video actually took place.

[Dominic]

Because it doesn't.

[Mike]

I agree. I agree. It doesn't matter.

[Jimmy]

I think it matters.

[Dominic]

Well, it's the same people who's their argument that George Floyd deserved a. To die because years before he put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach. It's. It's, it's. Show me somebody else's dirty laundry. If that's the case, and this is the problem, especially with people who support law and order and support the blue line, is you're setting the Standard for it to become a police state to where a cop runs your license and finds out when you were 18 years old you had three moving violations in a year. And now you're 46. 6. And they completely suspend you simply because you didn't use a turn signal. Oh, wait a second here. John Doe. John Doe, his, his wife, right? His wife has been riding him like crazy. She's just a complete drunk, just cheating cunt. And all of a sudden she gets in his face and he pushes her back out of reaction. And then we find out that John doe in his 20s was a, he's a, he's a man who's sexist. So we're going to convict John Doe now of domestic battery. He's got to spend time in prison if we're going to be basing things on their past. I mean, why not just go use the force then? And why not get rid of the totality of the circumstances in that moment and really bolster up Barnes v. Felix and say, no, it wasn't what happened five minutes ago. It was happened 50 years ago. This guy did this. So it's okay that you shot him. It's people are they, people just want, all they want is, is a reason to see someone punished online because they're too lazy from behind their own phones to do. And it's the mob. This is the modern day gladiator mob.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I can get down with that. I think it's important to know I want to place I, I naturally like, kind of like Dom saying, I want to place blame on somebody for the sake of the show. I think all of us get off this and go it, let it burn. I don't care. It doesn't affect me. For the sake of the in information entertainment side of it, I want to be able to say, you know what? ICE had him. I, we all know for a fact there's no, there's no temporary ICE detention center around there. He got grabbed and he probably got thrown out three blocks down the road and said, hey, you're, you're white. We don't need you.

[Mike]

Get out of here. You had to throw the curveball talk. You had to throw.

[Tyler]

Oh, he's not smiling.

[Mike]

No, I, I, I, I agree. It's, it's, we, we live in a meme generation where the first one to get the clip up or the funny thing up and gets the views and likes and, and quick laugh. It's like the class clown all of us probably were in school. But in the middle of this, through the conspiracies and through everything else there's just regular people that are affected by all this. And that's who the cops should be worried about protecting the most, is the regular, everyday law abiding citizens.

[Tyler]

What. What are the regular everyday people in Minneapolis even have to say about this? Is anybody really affected? I don't know. That's a genuine question. Are people in Minneapolis scared and staying inside and. Or are these all little? Because you know what? I've noticed about this too and I know you guys have as well. Maybe not Mike, but I know Dom has because he's smart. Is when you're. We're looking at these arenas, right? These intersections where these viral videos happen. The news forever has been able to make a one block radius seem like an entire city that's been going.

[Dominic]

My buddy I went to the academy with, went to the DEA and he's been with the DEA since 2004. And he told me back when Greece was rioting 15 years ago, because he was in Greece, he was stationed in Greece. He said, don't believe the news. He goes, cameras set up one one end of one block one day, then the middle, then the other side. And he goes.

[Jimmy]

It's.

[Dominic]

It makes it look like it's huge, but it's just one area they keep repositioning their cameras on to make it look like it's all over the place. So that's 100.

[Mike]

Yeah. The media is cooking this up too. So their job is just to get the first view of it and the of it so people watch their show and their sponsors page.

[Dominic]

It's distraction. The biggest thing. Can anybody remember what six months ago we were bitching about or. Or six months before that. We're not gonna remember this six months from now. It's like what was the big issue in America at that time? It is non stop like a, a IV drip of outrage. And you. It's just long enough for it to get in the system. Then the new thing, then the new thing, then the new thing. It's. I'm fatigue is all over it.

[Tyler]

I am.

[Mike]

But I think it goes. And my final statement on this is, I think you bring it up best Dom is the cops locally should abide by the constitution.

[Dominic]

They are the they. There is no problem. America can run like a Ferrari engine if cops did their job according to the Constitution. Literally. Can you picture every incident back during the lockdowns, teachers and village hall meetings going, hey, get this guy out here. Sorry, I cannot do it. It's free speech. I will keep if he Starts swinging if he starts picking up chairs at you, that I'll do. But I'm not going to enforce anything like this. Hey, there's a guy in here with a mask. He's grocery shopping. I'm sorry I'm here, but I can't do anything about it. You apply that everywhere. You take the, the cops. Many Minneapolis police take every department in the state of Minneapolis and take one or two guys from there, the same model that Nipus has out here in Illinois. And you go and you ship them over into, into Minneapolis. Oh, look, there's a protest. Hey, Ice, go do your. Stay the away from any street, street side arrests. Don't put hands on anyone, not even.

[Jimmy]

Somebody you think is illegal.

[Dominic]

Go do your operations like you're doing. We're standing in between you and the citizens. We will have our back to you because we trust you. We will face the citizens. Protest all you want. Keep it safe. Don't throw. We'll arrest you. They would have ended everything. And the fact, to be honest, it's policy violation. We didn't have union reps or more cops standing up and saying, hey, just let you know. It's our command staff. That's why we can't do anything. They're stupid. Because it would have been a hero. You would have had one hero cop who would have gone to Facebook or YouTube, done a video and said, I work for Minneapolis. I'm so and so. I've been X amount of years. Or we're not allowed to do stuff and we don't know what to do. And you would have seen, you would have seen up support for the police. But I don't support him at this point.

[Tyler]

Yeah. All right, well, thank you, Dominic. Appreciate it as always. Yeah, thank you. We will see you next week probably later. Later. Ah man. We're gonna take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with other news. Iran, China, Japan, all that good stuff. And when Jimmy returns from charging his camera. Over a century ago, in 1910, the Flexner Report, funded by John D. Rockefeller and the Carnegie foundation, re engineered medical education from a holistic whole body approach which appropriately treated the body as an interconnected system, to a compartmentalized approach under the guise of specialized medicine. They shut down or consolidated medical schools, marginalized naturopathic, homeopathic and chiropractic medicine. Medicine replacing them with symptom management and synthetic drugs. Allopathy is a marketing strategy rooted in fear and manipulated science. This philosophy carried into veterinary medicine resulting in over vaccination, unnecessary surgeries and Manufactured food just like they did for people. They call it care, but it's predatory and based on profitability. The truth. Toxicity, compromised immunity, and chronic inflammation. They're not fate. They're engineered. And so is your power to undo them. We built three targeted formulas to return the body to homeostasis for pets and people to detox, defend and restore. We are the correction to decades of corruption. We are vengeance. All right, guys. And as we're talking about cities burning and our country going to. We got to save some money. This is how you do it. Let's be honest, the math just Internet isn't adding up lately. Between the grocery store and those skyrocket insurance prices, premiums, even with a steady job, more families are being forced to rely on high interest credit cards to cover expenses. This is where our friends at American Financial can help. Okay. Or American, Yeah, we, I call them financial. But this, I guess it's called financing. But if you're a homeowner caught in that cycle carrying balances with some interest rates in the 20s or even 30s, it's time to get some relief. Right now, mortgage rates are at a three year low. And my friends at American Financing are helping homeowners pay off that high interest debt at rates in the low fives. Their salary based mortgage consultants don't just push loans, which is key. They're not. They're not. What do you call that when you get their salary based? They're not.

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[Mike]

There's your five. There's your 900 bucks a month right there. Saved. I can retire.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Boom. Made it.

[Mike]

I hear guys say it all the time, like the retirement thing. And I, I think what we don't look, we don't look into. Like you found out, I'm sure being an frs like I was. We just think you have to go the whole way. Like I have to do 25 years.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You don't realize that you can put it into a money, you can put it into the market, you can take it early when you check options.

[Tyler]

A lot of guys are good with their money. You can bring Jimmy in. A lot of guys are good with their money, but a lot of guys aren't. And when you, when you actually go look, when you've done like let's say, let's say you did 10 years in the government as a cop, you go look at how much retirement you have, you're like, whoa, that's my money. Because it's something you never looked at before for 10 years. You weren't tracking. Really makes leaving the job a little easier.

[Mike]

And, and like I said, if you do a number of thousands, if you do a thousand dollars a month, mine was 900, but a thousand dollars a month for five years is 60 grand. Is 60 grand a little that extra worth five more years of hell and stress? And I thought I started doing, when people said do the math, I was like, let me do the math of like life math. Like I'll be 55, I worked an extra five years and then I would collect an extra thousand dollars a month. I'm like, I'll probably be dead. If I would have stayed, I'd be dead before 60. There's no, I was miserable. The place sucked, the job sucked, the people around me sucked. And it was like then I go, now look at me. Now look at me.

[Tyler]

Yeah, there's hat, there is happiness there. You, I always say this work for the government, they give you great training, they give you great life skills, they give you great paychecks and they give you reliability. But it doesn't have to be a price too. And when we talk about like cops, man, you think another covet situation ain't coming around the corner. There is going to be another one where they make cops pressured into maybe acting a little unconstitutional. And that is where you really have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and go, I can't do this job anymore. It's not right because it's led to by dirty corrupt up politicians that are in it for their money and their pockets. And then it goes even higher above them where it's in it for big power, big, you know, deep state. And at the local cop you're just, or as a soldier you're just a despendable turd to them.

[Mike]

Let me tell you, like I've been watching some of the comments talking about cops and you know, whistleblowers and getting out it's not that easy and let me tell you why.

[Tyler]

Also. Dispendable is a word.

[Dominic]

Yep.

[Mike]

Dependable.

[Tyler]

Dependable. That's what I said. I'm calling myself out before anybody else can do it.

[Mike]

It's not that easy. Especially in Florida. I found that nobody really wants to sue the government. And you know, we know about Jack, our buddy, Jack up and that got let go with cancer. I have a guy I worked with.

[Dominic]

He.

[Mike]

He dislocated and tore both rotator cuffs in a fight on duty. Fighting a suspect on duty. He is gone. He is gone. They. They got rid of him. He got to a point where they said, sorry bud, you can't come back to work now. You can go through workers comp and you can get it treated the rest of your life. You can choose to take a settlement. His job was gone. They fired him. Or he resigned. They said we're going to fire you on Friday.

[Tyler]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mike]

After being out so long. So when guys say like even discipline, you stand up for the constitution. Quit and then sue them. Doesn't work. Get injured on. Dude, this is how shitty the cop world really is. Job's dead.

[Dominic]

Sorry.

[Mike]

Until they fix this stuff. A guy can lose his job to cancer. A guy can lose his job to an on duty injury. Now you can take a thirty thousand dollar pay cut and go work in records. That works for you. You know you're making 80 grand now. Well, we'll cut your salary to 40. Does that work for you? Tyler, we're going to pay you half the money we didn't buy you.

[Tyler]

We're going to treat you like.

[Mike]

And you lost your 3% multiplier in retirement. Now it's 1.5.

[Tyler]

And now you're toxic work environment every day.

[Mike]

So you can lose your job as a cop to an on duty injury. But this is my big butt. And I don't have a big butt. And I have tiny legs.

[Tyler]

I have a big butt.

[Mike]

You do. If I go out off duty and start screaming and yelling like a Navy SEAL might do and yell some slurs and I get in trouble off duty, completely off duty. It's my life. It's my life. I can be fired. I can be fired first con for conduct off duty because I'm a cop 24 hours a day. But I can also be fired for giving it 100 getting injured on job. And they go, sorry, your injury, it looks really bad and you can't be a cop anymore, we're getting rid of you. That's the most up scenario on Godzilla's. At least the military has VA disability, some type of compensation for the rest of your life workers compared. I want to give any benefits.

[Tyler]

That's why I, I said it before and, and I know Kenny from Beyond the Bell podcast gave me some grief, but I am, I would listen to the argument for a national police force because a lot of these problems would be solved. You can't just get kicked out of the army without a lot of board hearings. You can't just have one major go. This dude. You can get kicked out of the army or the military for sure, but it is a very, very formal process.

[Jimmy]

Not, not for an injury though. If you're gonna get med boarded, that's a whole different ball.

[Tyler]

And you're compensated for the rest of.

[Mike]

The rest of your life.

[Tyler]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[Mike]

You can give 10 years to this, this guy that I'm talking about locally that I worked with, gave 10 years of his life. He got injured fighting on duty and he had his first shoulder repaired. Used up all the time was out. They brought him back for a little bit. The doctor told him you have to have your other shoulder repaired. It works. But you're gonna lose, you might lose your arm if you go back to work, get injured again. I have to repair it. He brought that to them. They said you have two weeks left to get full reconstructive soldier surgery and be back to work or you're fired. Obviously it's impossible. You need like six months of rehab. So that is what can happen to you as a cop. Some states are better than those. I like nypd. You fall down, break your foot, they'll medically retire you like 50 of your pay. You can go get another job. I know cops that work in Florida that are collecting full medical retirement from another state. California though has started to crack down on that. California, if you're getting VA benefits and you try to get hired, they'll try to get your VA benefits taken away and say, oh, you're disabled. You can't do both.

[Jimmy]

You know.

[Tyler]

You know what?

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

Anyway, that was excellent, Jimmy, but. And then you know what? When you go into that is is you can be met. Here's the other thing. In Florida you can be medically retired. So let's say you get injured on duty and we're going to medically retire, you get 60%. Most cops can't live on 100 because we're broke. We have bills. We can't even afford what we got on 100. Go get injured. So let's say I make 100 grand, I get 60% the rest of my life I'll get $60,000, right? You can't make a penny, not one cent outside that money with FRS or your they'll take it from you. You can't go get another job. You can't open your own personal business. You cannot have a, a 1099 that shows you made a penty. A penny penty. I was almost a penny. I was being so articulate and petty that almost said you cannot get FRS retired medically and collect a single dime in any income or they'll take it from you. So you're bound to that money the rest of your life. So if you're making 100 grand and you go out on FRS retirement or FRS disability.

[Tyler]

Florida State retirement.

[Mike]

Florida State retirement, you get 66 maybe of your. I believe it is 60 or 66 and you can't ever make money again. So now you're stuck the rest of your life living on just that income. Or you can go get a job and you'll. They'll take it from you. It's a sham.

[Tyler]

How about the New York cops going out on disability? They do. Then come to Florida.

[Mike]

They do. It happens all the time. I work with a guy who worked with a guy who got, he fell and got him double impaled on both forearms on one of those fences up bad and then retired. Full retirement from nypd, come down to Florida, he's another. Been a cop ever since.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Mike]

So you can do that. But for the guys, just saying it sounds easy. Just like it says, don't you know it sounds easy not to murder citizens just peacefully protesting. But it's difficult for you guys to understand. It sounds easy to just go, I'm going to quit.

[Dominic]

I'm joking.

[Mike]

I'm joking. It sounds easy to just go, quit. You know, my Wife. And I've been through hell and back with the agency I worked at, and it's not that easy. It's not that easy. They police themselves. You file a complaint against the agency, and guess what they say. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, we. We investigate ourselves, and we didn't do anything wrong. So you.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, everybody in the government does that.

[Tyler]

Yo, Jimmy, I invited that USMC vet that's always talking. I invited him to come on the show, call in. Of course, he hasn't responded yet.

[Mike]

That was the one with the pigtail, right?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Some new liberal marine marines. Come get your boy, dude.

[Mike]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I don't know, man. I mean, you could be a U.S. marine vet, but I mean, the. The worst comments that I've seen are like, who the are you guys? And did you guys even serve? And it's like, yeah, tell me you don't watch.

[Mike]

He had pronouns in his bio, just so you know. Yeah, he went at it with me, too. He said some slick, but they never. Come on.

[Tyler]

Yeah, let's. Let's get into some of the topics that Jimmy did a lot of research on. So we want to make sure we cover these. These are going on current geopolitical.

[Jimmy]

All right, do we have the. Do we have the. The standard Marco Rubio, who is in charge of everything picture? Because this is going to be some Marco Rubio again. He's in charge of more.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. So he had a hearing yesterday up. Up on Capitol Hill, and he said some really interesting things that I was sort of. I was kind of, like, taken aback by. So you noticed we haven't really heard too much about Venezuela. It seems like they're kind of playing ball. The reason is because taxpayer money, most likely taxpayer money, went to make sure that they could make payroll for a while to keep doing their government.

[Tyler]

What's that mean?

[Jimmy]

That means that we're paying for their government to keep paying their people.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, like, u. S. Taxpayer money. So now there's no word. He didn't specify if maybe this was the oil that we took. We made money off that if it went to that, but we gave them money to make payroll for until a new government can take over. So this is the. The interim government. And again, Marco Rubio in charge of that. And then later on, he basically, he was asked about us leaving NATO. You know, obviously we took some flack for saying, hey, NATO sucks, and it's a protection racket where we're the ones getting exploited. I took it in the teeth on that one. But that just goes to show you how much people don't know about what's going on in Europe.

[Mike]

I was going somewhere else with that.

[Jimmy]

What's that?

[Tyler]

We're podcast. Coming down your head, taking it in.

[Mike]

The teeth is better than somebody coming down your throat.

[Tyler]

So.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike]

At least you tried to block it with your teeth. Other guys just open their throat.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, man. Man, oh, man. So he was. Rubio was asked about NATO and whether or not we, you know, just the stuff going on with NATO. And he made. He basically said countries need to make their GDP 10% right now. It's supposed to be 5% of GDP. If we were to leave NATO, if the United States was to leave NATO, they would have to make their. Their contributions to their military 10 of their GDP for the next 20 to 25 years to just make up for the deficit that they've had. Not doing anything right now, which is us kind of telling them, like, hey, dude, you really do need us. And you might want to think about the. The fiscal benefits of us staying here and doing what the we want, which I don't think Trump's gonna leave NATO. I don't. I don't think that that's a great idea. NATO historically has been the most successful treaty organization on the planet ever. In the history of ever. So probably a good idea to stay with NATO even though it's a show because the stupid Europeans. So. But basically Trump's telling you pull your damn weight, dude. Get. Get in the fight. Because it. It's coming. And that the big one right now is I kind of said this. The Japanese Coast Guard, okay, so we're going from Europe over to the Pacific. The Japanese coast guard is asking the fishing companies and. And the fishermen to leave the contested islands and stop fishing around the contested islands with China. Now Japan very, very much wants to keep those islands. They are not backing down.

[Tyler]

They're.

[Jimmy]

They're ready to fight. Remember, they now have three aircraft carriers, which they didn't.

[Tyler]

Islands are they.

[Jimmy]

Japanese say that they're theirs. The Chinese say that they're theirs.

[Tyler]

We haven't figured that out yet in 2026.

[Jimmy]

I think that they belong to Japan, personally.

[Tyler]

Well, I mean, like, what's the under. What's the U. S. Understanding of it?

[Jimmy]

The U. S. Understanding was this, that after World War II. Right. China owned what it. The territory that it had, except for Taiwan, which, you know, obviously that's what's left of the. The China that we helped during World War II.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's the North Pole. That's where our toys are made.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. So Taiwan is the North Pole. You're absolutely. Actually, That's a great one, man. I gotta keep that. So China, the. The Communist China that we have now basically didn't really have any ability to flex its muscles outside of its own territorial waters. That has obviously since changed. But the reality is, is that you can't go back and. Well, hey, those were historically belonging to China in 1927, and now we want them back. It's like, no, dude, that was 100 years ago, bro. Like, no, no.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

And if you want a. A modern example, the. You guys ever heard of the Falklands War?

[Tyler]

I've heard of it. I don't really know what it is.

[Jimmy]

So there are some islands off the coast of Argentina, right, the Falkland Islands, that have belonged to the British for a very long time, but they are spitting distance from Argentina. Argentina says, there Ares. Britain says, nope, they're ours. They've been ours since the 1700s. We're keeping them.

[Tyler]

Is there any commerce established on those? Is there society? Is there a civilization? Are they.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, there's Brits that live in the. In the Falklands Island. And so Argentina did invade and tried to take and did take back the Falkland Islands. This was in 82.

[Tyler]

Okay. So they just went in. I'm assuming there's no British army presence there. There was.

[Jimmy]

There was 30 British Royal Marines there that, you know, basically didn't have a choice. They were. You know, they had 10, 000 guys landing on the beach. They surrendered. So, I mean, they didn't even try to go wage guerrilla war. They were like, nope, we're done.

[Dominic]

We're out.

[Jimmy]

Margaret Thatcher decided, nope, we're getting our islands back. And the. The British Empire went to war with Argentina and got them back and, you know, beat the snot of them. That's it. So that's your historical context for these islands, which are very much kind of in the same boat. China says that they're theirs. Japan says they've been ours for 100 years. They're ours. And Japan has a. A very, very good, very professional navy. They were not allowed to have aircraft carriers after World War II because, of course, the aircraft carriers, what they did started World War II with. With us, but we kind of like, turn a blind eye to them saying, oh, it's not an aircraft carrier. It's a helicopter destroyer. And so it's a. It's a destroyer that just carries a shitload of helicopters. It's an aircraft carrier. They've upgraded them to carry F35s now they're, they're absolutely ready for prime time. And the prime minister of Japan basically said, if you go, told this to China, if you go to war with Taiwan, we will get involved.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Right after that, China said, well, you know those islands that we're talking about? Yeah, we want those back. And so Japan, the government went to the fishermen and was like, hey guys, might want to get the hell away from these islands and started evacuating the civilians off these islands. They've drilled that before. They've drilled, you know, evacuating the civilians. They're doing it for real now, which pretty much says that Japan is, you know, really does think that the, the China is either prepping for war or that attacking civilians is, is at least on the table for, you know, the Chinese Communist Party.

[Tyler]

And if that happens, shout out. Sean M7987, thanks for joining.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, so, John, Japan thinks that China's pretty, pretty serious about this. They're taking the threat seriously. They're moving all of their stuff out of there. And it. Here's the deal again. If China attacks or, or tries to take these islands back, that's 100 an act of war. And under the current, not just treaty, but their own, the, the Japanese's own constitution, we have to protect them. They're not allowed to have a real offensive military because we, the United States, said, if anybody with you, we'll come and get them. So that would 100 be the start of the war right there.

[Tyler]

You had mentioned what is going on in Iran.

[Mike]

Okay, before you answer that, what was going through my head the whole time I was waiting for you to do a Japanese accent on them, telling them to get away from their islands. In my head, it was going on the whole time. I didn't want to say it, but I wanted to hear you in your accent tell them that they had to leave the island.

[Tyler]

I cannot have God coming.

[Mike]

Yeah, people wonder if I'm zoned out or sleeping. No, in my head I'm like, hope Tyler does the Japanese accent. I hope Tyler does the Japanese accent.

[Tyler]

That's all they have to do is tell them Godzilla's coming and then they have a drill for that.

[Jimmy]

Dude, China is Godzilla. So as far as they're concerned. And, and again, I mean, like, and, and this, I'm going to get to the Iran thing, but this is also very important and they sort of overlap. If a war starts, the top the 60 of the world's sea commerce goes through the Straits of Taiwan. That is the body of water between China. I don't even.

[Tyler]

Can you say that all again? 60 of the world sea commerce goes where goes.

[Jimmy]

Goes through. Between. In. Through the Straits of Taiwan. That is the body of water. Did I say something funny? I. I might have did.

[Mike]

Was there penetration involved at the point where I.

[Tyler]

This is in class.

[Mike]

When I sit too long without talking and I listen to intelligent people talk, the infant autism in my head starts making those noises and I look for something funny to say. So I'm like, in my head right now. I'm doing a Chinese accent or Japanese accent to everything that's going on. That's. That's what's happening.

[Jimmy]

I mean, maybe we just need to make that part of the show. I mean, my own problem. If it's news, entertainment, let's be entertainers. God damn.

[Tyler]

Do the entire newscast.

[Mike]

As a Japanese, if you got. You guys could be in my head. This show would be millions of views and we would be millionaires.

[Jimmy]

We will defend our.

[Mike]

The topics change quickly, too.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

So you keep talking now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you, you, you.

[Mike]

I don't want to be on camera. Let me Cook.

[Jimmy]

Okay. So 60 of the world's sea commerce goes through the Straits of Taiwan. That is the body of water between China and Taiwan.

[Dominic]

Of a.

[Jimmy]

Of a shooting war starts. It's gonna be bad for everybody.

[Tyler]

No more.

[Jimmy]

No more TVs.

[Tyler]

No more.

[Jimmy]

No more cheap electronics. No more toys for Christmas. Everybody's.

[Mike]

You very. Okay, yeah.

[Jimmy]

All the little elves over there are gonna be putting down their hammers and. And they're gonna be picking up M4s. So it's. It's gonna be bad. And they.

[Tyler]

Wait, so they use M4s. I thought they used ninja stars first.

[Jimmy]

No, no, that's the Japanese. We're talking about the Taiwanese. But yeah, the. The Japanese, they have their own. They have their own rifle, which is, I think it. I can't remember what it is, but I have to look. Yeah, and they're still carrying.

[Tyler]

Absolutely.

[Jimmy]

They're still carrying samurai swords. I. I wouldn't want to. With the Japanese. I've. I've worked with the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force before and, and remember very quickly what will happen is China will do something. Japan will do something. Japan and China, United States, Korea, Taiwan.

[Tyler]

Boom.

[Jimmy]

We have World War iii.

[Mike]

Boom. It was pretty bad.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah. So as far as Iran, the carrier battle group or the carrier strike group for the Abraham Lincoln arrived in theater, turned off all of their navigation tracking data. So there's a. Every ship has like a little GPS locator. So that other ships know where you are so they don't have like collisions and Abraham Lincoln strike group turned all that off. We don't know exactly where they're operating.

[Tyler]

But what does that mean?

[Jimmy]

It means that they, they do not want to people to know where they are because they're okay.

[Tyler]

So it's kind of like one of those things. Like most of the time they're okay with American public knowing everything, nerds finding them like, okay. But when they go black, they're going black for a reason.

[Mike]

We grow black.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And they're not going back, so. So, and yeah, so it's again, I, I, I, I had some people last night in the chat. By the way, the super chats were crazy on, on my live last night.

[Mike]

What'd you make, man? You got, you got, you got enough for a starter?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, you'll, you'll see it, you'll see it in the breakdown.

[Mike]

Nothing. I get one. Super.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, starter's like 60 bucks, so it's easy.

[Tyler]

Jimmy holds up signs that says, I'm broke.

[Mike]

You pay now.

[Jimmy]

Nope, didn't do that. Actually. It was Valkyrie. Valkyrie just came in and just for no reason was like, I was like, do I need to show some nipples or something? I feel like a stripper.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, Valkyrie. I hope he, I haven't seen him in a while.

[Mike]

To tune in Wednesday nights.

[Tyler]

They're tonight. Yeah, we got, we got Counterculture. This is. But it is. The Night Shift is on its last night being broadcast on the anti air box.

[Mike]

Yeah. Starting next Thursday, exclusively on Counterculture.

[Tyler]

This is.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. By the way, Tyler, before I forget, happy birthday, buddy. I know. I knew that because our, our registration both expires on the same month.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And so happy birthday, dude.

[Tyler]

You had a 31 day. You had a 1 out of 31 chance to guess the date, and you guessed it right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, I, I, I'd love to take credit for that, but it was actually Lily that was like, hey, it's Tyler's birthday, don't forget.

[Tyler]

Well, happy birthday to me. I was hungry the other day. Oh, God, I was hungry.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Tyler]

All right. And I had one Slim Jim left in my backpack, and I'm like, starving. I didn't pack a lunch. And I'm like, oh, I really wanted to try these barbecue chips that Mike brought. And they're all gone. Are they?

[Jimmy]

You know, Jimmy, Hey, I told you I was walking out with them.

[Tyler]

The funny thing is, is that you are. Okay, Jimmy did say this on Monday. He goes, hey, just so you know, Mike told me I could take all these chips home. And I go, okay. That's what he said. He's like, okay, I don't want there to be any confusion whatsoever. No confusion. I'm like, no, dude, no. No confusion. Except for the fact that Mike didn't tell. You could take them all home. That's where I don't.

[Mike]

Listen, listen, listen, listen. He's trying to stir the pot. I believe what happened was I put the chips with the stickers and I said, take all. This is up for grabs. Tyler's too much of a pansy to eat Thai chips. The other flavor out there.

[Tyler]

I wanted to.

[Mike]

So he wanted the barbecue. So he took.

[Tyler]

He's.

[Mike]

He's tried to.

[Tyler]

I told my.

[Mike]

Tried to bait me into this. I told Mike we would lose in.

[Tyler]

Court because I look back, the cameras are there. And Mike goes, these are all up for grabs, Correct? You can take any of these. And you said, oh, I would like to take one to my sro. And I'm like, there's no way. He thinks he's talking about bringing chips to his kids sro. And I'm like, so. But at the end of the day, Mike was pointing to a general area and said, yeah, you can all of these, Tyler.

[Mike]

This is because Tyler won't eat Thai chips. Jimmy just.

[Jimmy]

I.

[Mike]

No issue.

[Jimmy]

They're still packaged up. Again, I'm just not going to take any kind of product.

[Mike]

He wanted to make it a sprint.

[Jimmy]

I'm not taking it.

[Mike]

I'm not taking it back on me. When he wanted to play Jimmy's lawyer and defend him. So he wanted me to be. I could defend you, too. So it's not. It's not even a problem. It's not even a problem. Other than prima donna can't eat Thai chips. He's got to have barbecue.

[Tyler]

No, I wanted barbecue.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. The good news is, is that I will.

[Mike]

If they make you not growl, don't eat them, because they're very good. They're very good. And I bought them for everybody.

[Tyler]

Jefferson. Jefferson. New. Oh, what's up? Yeah, Jeff's a newbie. Happy birthday, Tyler. Have some beer on me, bro. Dude. Thank you, Brady.

[Mike]

Just what we need for tonight.

[Tyler]

Happy birthday, Tyler. $5. It's my birthday, guys. Hey, you want. Hey, do you want to go to lunch on my birthday, Mike?

[Jimmy]

Sure.

[Tyler]

Awesome, man. If we go to lunch on my birthday.

[Mike]

Birthday, can we do the.

[Tyler]

Man?

[Jimmy]

That's such a bummer, dude. So if you look at the text message this morning, I. I texted you right at 5:30, very, very early. And I was like, that's what I.

[Tyler]

Do when I call in sick. I wake up and I go text around the time I would be getting up, and then I go back to bed.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Yeah. I was actually sitting outside when I sent that text message. Like, what in the is wrong with my truck? I was, I was pissed.

[Mike]

Can't even go to work today. God damn it, dude.

[Jimmy]

Honestly, like, I was looking. I, I look forward to. This is one of those times where, like, I look forward to going to work.

[Mike]

Like, I, I hope you look forward every day.

[Jimmy]

I do. I, I, I want. I mean, it would be one thing if I was like, hey, I'm sorry, guys. And then I was like, oh, I'm also tummy. My tummy hurts too. And like, no, I, I, I hate not being there. I love being in the studio. So everybody was kind of commenting like, Jimmy's on one today. It's because I was pissed and I was like, I'm bringing the energy from wherever I'm at, so.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Mike]

Yeah, but it was on time. Yeah.

[Tyler]

I had to pick up Lewis. 70 degrees outside. Lewis.

[Mike]

It was not 70.

[Tyler]

This.

[Mike]

It was.

[Tyler]

No, not when we got here. My, my car said 70.

[Mike]

Oh, it's freezing this morning, dude.

[Jimmy]

It was, it was 48 degrees this morning. Where I was at which ships are.

[Mike]

Met Rex protein chips. And they were buy. We'll get one free. So they were very inexpensive, but they're very good.

[Tyler]

I wouldn't know. I didn't have it.

[Mike]

Tie is way better than the barbecue, by the way. And there's a whole box out there.

[Jimmy]

So I, I will make sure that again, like, I will never, ever, ever, ever. I won't take a paper clip from that studio. You can be like that.

[Tyler]

Most people abide by.

[Dominic]

You know what?

[Tyler]

I'm not going to take anything anymore. Like, like.

[Jimmy]

Because I keep hearing it's okay, and then I get jammed up when it's not. It's like, all right, man, Mike, where.

[Tyler]

The all the chips? And I was like, oh, yeah, Jimmy. And then I said, I go, oh, never mind. Jimmy said he could take them. And that was where the.

[Mike]

That's where Tyler started his conspiracy theory.

[Jimmy]

Everybody's out to get me.

[Mike]

I should have hungry. I should have brought the bar. I forgot to bring more. I should have brought more, dude.

[Jimmy]

You know what I mean?

[Mike]

I have six boxes. Six boxes.

[Jimmy]

I'm. I'm so sad. I'm just, I'm just so sad.

[Mike]

Don't be sad. Tyler's an even on his birthday.

[Jimmy]

Oh, man.

[Tyler]

Can I be an. On one day of the year?

[Mike]

I mean, you've been. So far, you've been consistent for the year of 2026. Today's any different.

[Tyler]

But I don't think, Jimmy, you brought up the only other thing. You said something about Mexico, oil and Cuba. That was the only other thing.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So Mexico is, Is stopping. Transferring oil to Cuba, which is.

[Tyler]

What does that mean?

[Jimmy]

That's the only other place that they were getting it from instead of Venezuela.

[Tyler]

Oh, and why did Mexico do that?

[Jimmy]

Probably because it was kind of like, again, Marco Rubio went down there and was like, hey, y', all, knock it off. Or like all of the cool that you guys have. Like, we're. We're gonna do you what we did to Venezuela. I mean, I'm sure that there was some backroom dealings, but they decided, yeah, politics. Yeah, yeah, they're done. Which, which again, that leaves Cuba out kind of. Remember Marco Rubio? Where is he from? He's from Florida. His family's Cuban immigrants. Legal ones, by the way, not illegals. They didn't, you know, this was back in the day. So Cuba is, Is kind of on its own. They don't have the ties to the Soviet Union anymore. Like, the Russian Federation doesn't. Isn't tied in with them. They're not going to be able to get oil from Iran, which again, that's. That's another problem, too, as far as oil. If this, if the. Goes hot in. In Iran, and it may not. Not anytime soon, but it could. Trump already said it would be bigger than the last attack that we did, Operation Midnight Butt Hammer, which actually not. That's not even far from what it was called when we bombed Iran in the summer last year. Yeah.

[Tyler]

So I'm, I'm really surprised Cuba has blasted this long on their own. Like, obviously, they were part of a group that it was like a. Like obviously hasn't existed in 50 years, and they've just managed to skate by being Cuba. And now we're like, essentially, we're sick of it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Again, this is, this is the, The Trump doctrine, which is we're going to control our own hemisphere. And, And Cuba has been a thorn in our side long enough. Cubic fired back with, we'll just kick you out of Guantanamo Bay. And we were like, yeah, try it, dude. You try it.

[Dominic]

Yeah, go.

[Tyler]

Go for that.

[Jimmy]

It'll be over. So I, I don't think. I don't think Cuba is going to last much longer the way it is right now.

[Tyler]

Just leave it at that. I don't think Cuba's gonna last much longer.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I think I. I think there's. There's too much. You want to talk about a really powerful lobbying body that's not the jews. It's the Cuban immigrants. They are really, really powerful. And anybody that's ever dealt with them here in the state of Florida, they're almost as powerful as the scientologists, but.

[Tyler]

They'Re, but they're logical because they've lived a world of awful communism that's right there. They know firsthand communism does not work. Other than. Unfortunately, the white karens of america have never had a bad day in their life. For real. Until ICE shoots him in the face.

[Jimmy]

Dude, it's. It's so sad to like, if you ever talk. You ever sit down and talk with a Cuban immigrant, like, or like they're. They're talking about, like, when fidel Castro came to power and people were getting their hands cut off and, like, thrown into jail and, and I mean, like, it was. It was brutal, dude. It was brutal. And you know, communism is really just an excuse to keep themselves in power. They're not ideological communists. They're just. They use that as. As a means to power. And, you know, I think that it. Because they're so close, they could very much go from being a u. S. Adversary to a very powerful, very affluent u. S. Ally and, and really reap the benefits of it because they. I mean, can you imagine, like, cruises where we could all just go down to Cuba from Tampa or, you know, I mean, like, it would be great, man. Like, they would benefit so much from this, you know.

[Tyler]

God, what currency does qb Use? You know what?

[Jimmy]

I think it's. Is it the lira?

[Tyler]

Red.

[Jimmy]

Let's see. Cuban currency as a peso. It's a Cuban peso. And it's one of. One of their Cuban dollars is equal to 42. Yeah, but it's expensive over there.

[Tyler]

Damn their.

[Jimmy]

Their economy is doing. Or their. Their money. $1 for that 1 peso is equal to 42 US cents. It's. It's half.

[Tyler]

Oh, so it's double to cost to live in Cuba for us.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but I mean, like, they.

[Tyler]

It's.

[Jimmy]

The money means more, but that's because of the inflation that we have here in the United States. But you know, there's. I think it would still be a great time to go over there to Cuba and enjoy yourselves. So. And then, not to mention Cuban cigars and Cuban. Cubans and Cuban women and, you know.

[Tyler]

What'S a Cuban Cuban.

[Mike]

You're not supposed to say the women part, Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I know. Yeah, but I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about.

[Mike]

I'm talking about how do you know they look. How do you know what they look like?

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, I wasn't trying to jam you up. I was just trying to find what happened to the potato.

[Mike]

I didn't even know Cuban had women. I thought it was all men smoking.

[Tyler]

What is women? I don't even know like women.

[Mike]

W. Before we go, before we go, we have to touch on the biggest robbery in history of sports. Jimmy knows what I'm talking about. The biggest robbery in history of sports happened yesterday where they said that Bill Belichick was not a first ballot hall of Fame coach. The winning as coach, most super bowl rings because of Deflategate, I'm assuming, and all the controversy surrounding Patriots. In a world where Bill Belichick is not a unanimous first round hall of Famer. It is not a world. There's not even Cuban women in that world. Yeah, it's biggest, biggest ripoff in history.

[Jimmy]

Not only that, but Eli didn't get it either.

[Mike]

Eli I get the second time around, he's gonna have a tough time getting in. He had. He was 117 and 117, 500. Quarterback, two Super Bowl MVPs. Without those two Super Bowls. He's really an average quarterback. He's. I'm a huge fan. But Belichick not getting in six Super Bowls as a.

[Tyler]

Or why is this the only chance.

[Jimmy]

As a head coach, it's like, it's.

[Mike]

Like a unanimous thing.

[Tyler]

You.

[Mike]

You a first ballot hall of Famers, like getting your true blue eib. Like you went through the first day and got everything done. Yeah, it's just a little better. You got it all the way. So first ballot hall of Famer.

[Tyler]

When are you eligible to get it? As soon as you retire.

[Mike]

Five years. Think you have to be inactive for five years. Being after five years coach, I think is a little different because he's only been gone from doing four or five, maybe about the same fight. I don't know.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, the bottom line is you can't say. It's like he's got the. I mean, you can't knock the dynasty. The coach, he was a GM on top of it, so he went to personnel moves. You can hate him. You can hate them all you want. Kind of like Barry Bonds. To me, the whole steroid era thing is nonsense. I that the guy, the best hitter in history of baseball is not in hall of Fame, but Belichick not getting in. It was kind of like a you from the writers that don't like him is what.

[Jimmy]

Don't kid yourself. This is. This has everything to do with Bill Polian. This is all about Bill Poland. Bill Polian was the GM of the Indianapolis Colts. There was a big rivalry between. Can you hear me?

[Tyler]

No, it's not us. It's not us. Jimmy, turn your mic.

[Jimmy]

Mine is on. I'm. I'm watching the little bubbles.

[Tyler]

Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't mess with anything. Lewis, I. You.

[Jimmy]

My thing says it's working.

[Tyler]

See, if we need to reset, if there's a weird distortion or if we lose hearing.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but we can't hear Jimmy. Can everybody else hear Jimmy? What's the start? Yeah, can you guys hear me?

[Jimmy]

I can. Okay, so I can hear Jim.

[Mike]

They can hear Jimmy. We can't hear Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Okay, turn it off.

[Jimmy]

And while we're doing that, I'm going to go ahead and continue talking, and I'm going to use my smooth jazz voice. You're listening to KACL 780 smooth jazz.

[Mike]

All right, Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Can you guys hear me now?

[Tyler]

They can hear you now.

[Mike]

Thank God Lewis didn't do it the first time. He would have been right.

[Tyler]

Had four different options, and he was just going to do all of them.

[Dominic]

I saw it.

[Mike]

Is that it?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So go. Bye.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, But Bill Polian. Bill Polian, who was the. The GM of the Indianapolis Colts when Peyton Manning was there. Huge rivalry between him and, you know, the. The Colts and the Patriots, you know, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, the whole nine.

[Mike]

Here's my other. Here's my other conspiracy. Belichick and Kraft don't like each other anymore. Craft is the owner of the Patriots, and he's on the ballot to get in as the owner. So Kraft may have pulled some strings and said, I want to get in on my own as the owner, and he can get in next year as a coach.

[Jimmy]

I mean, everybody.

[Mike]

They're not friendly.

[Jimmy]

Everybody is saying, like, we need to know who voted for what. Because everybody's saying, oh, I voted for him.

[Mike]

Story where they're getting ready to. They threaten the. The people that vote. Like, leaking the information now because it's not been announced officially. It's leaking out. Like, two days ago, it leaked that Eli didn't make it. Yesterday, it leaked at Belichick didn't make it. So really, nobody's supposed to know yet. It hasn't been announced, but it's starting to leak. So there is obviously a problem with the. The committee as well, so. But that's. That's robbery. I hated New England. Every year they won. Miserable, obviously. The Giants beat him twice, so I was excited about that. But you can't knock that. Bill Belichick is a first ballot hall of Famer. I mean, best coach.

[Jimmy]

If he is not a first ballot hall of Fame coach, who the is?

[Mike]

That's what I'm saying. Dilutes the entire pod. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Not only that, but I mean, like, if. If that calls Tom Brady into question too, because he was there for all of that as well. So you're gonna tell me that Tom Brady's not a first ballot hall of Famer, Right. Because he was involved in the same stuff.

[Mike]

I get it. Yeah. That'll be interesting. We'll see.

[Jimmy]

All right, boys.

[Mike]

My attention spans, it.

[Tyler]

All right, guys. That was a hell of a show.

[Mike]

Tonight. Tonight, tonight.

[Tyler]

Last night, Counterculture's gonna be on Anti hero. You need to make sure, please to go to The Counterculture, Inc. YouTube and subscribe. That way you get. Because after tonight, it will be counterculture only, so. And also, yeah, we'll be live tonight. Jimmy, you gonna fix your starter and get here? No, I'm.

[Jimmy]

I'm gonna try. I. It's gonna be about whether or not I can get the. The funds together and get the part here in time. Because, like, just like the last part, I knew about that two days in advance, so it was able to get it there and get it in and installed this one. It's. I would say don't bet on it, but I'm gonna try again.

[Mike]

I just thought of that. But based on Heather's comment. You getting surf and turf or you getting dollar menu for your birthday? Hopefully. Hopefully he gets a better menu at home.

[Tyler]

Oh, I got surf and turf this morning, baby.

[Dominic]

Good for you.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

Somebody's doing well.

[Tyler]

Oh, well, I got a dollar menu last night and I said, can I call Mike and tell him I'm getting a dollar me?

[Mike]

Mike never wants to know. Never.

[Jimmy]

Oh, man.

[Tyler]

No, no, no.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

All right. We'll see you guys tonight.

[Dominic]

See you later.

[Tyler]

Jv team for life.