A (3:41)

Are you. Are you broadcasting from the extended stay?

B (3:46)

No, no, I'm broadcasting from my friend from Church's house.

A (3:50)

My friend from Church's house. So, yeah, that's cool that they're like. You're like, yeah, yo, I'm gonna be MIA for two hours.

B (4:00)

Yeah, no, no, no. Actually, so he's a gamer and he twitch streams and does all that. So he actually has a setup and I was like, I'll use mine. He's like, what do you think I am, dude? Like, use my.

A (4:14)

Like.

B (4:14)

Okay, thanks, dude. So.

A (4:16)

Oh, sweet. Yeah.

B (4:18)

Yeah. So he. He does he. He was one of the guys I'm talking to about, like, hey, we're trying to do the counterculture gaming and all that, so it's a good time.

A (4:26)

Oh, yes. Cataculture gaming is the other thing we're going to talk about today. We. We've been talking about it since, I think, last Patreon Tuesday. Me. So.

B (4:36)

We have.

A (4:37)

We'll get back to you in probably like 20 minutes when we talk about it. Yep. Niche man joined Patreon last night. I'm like, thanks, bro. It means a lot. And I. I responded to your messages actually last night, and I just have not checked it this morning, so I will check it and. Good morning, Liz. So. Oh, there's more. The other Brady.

B (5:02)

Yeah, we got two Brady's.

A (5:04)

Colt finally joined Patreon. Thanks.

B (5:08)

He's getting ready to. To ship too.

A (5:10)

Yeah, I was gonna say this. Don't feel obligated to pay while you're in basic. Although you're gonna come out rich. You're gonna be like, I have $30,000 in the bank. Holy.

B (5:19)

Yeah, dude. Like. And you're not gonna spend hardly any of it. It's like a little mini deployment.

A (5:26)

Brady says they might think of you differently after hearing this. Jimmy, Your truck loaded by Gucci Main start playing in Jimmy's. Nick. Good morning, brother. So I. I wanted to kick it off, man. We have this there snl like we always talk about. Got back to being kind of funny. Obviously they're left wing. They are going to pick on the right. But it's actually tasteful now. And just like the Pete Hegseth one It made me laugh really hard. And did you see it? It's the cold open.

B (6:03)

I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. I try to stay off stuff. Just because you're like. I don't want anybody to know anything until we're in the show.

A (6:13)

All right?

B (6:15)

So unless you tell me. Okay.

A (6:20)

The chaotic situation in Minnesota.

B (6:22)

President Trump ordered White House borders are. Tom Homan to travel to Minneapolis and take control of the operation. Upon arrival, he met with ICE unit commanders to clarify the mission objectives.

C (6:33)

All right, everyone. Thank you. All right. All right. Everyone settle down. My name is Tom Holman. Now, I'm sure a lot of you are wondering why Greg Bevino, the last guy, was dismissed. I want to stress that it wasn't because he did a bad job or publicly lied about the shooting of an American citizen or even, oh, dressed like a Nazi, and it was that he was filmed doing these things. Don't like you.

A (7:04)

That.

C (7:06)

So I'm here now, and we need to tighten up. That starts with remembering the mission objective. Now, who could tell me why we're here in Minneapolis?

A (7:14)

Pass.

C (7:16)

Nope. Can't pass. Come on, guys. What are we doing in Minneapolis?

B (7:21)

This could be wrong, but Army?

D (7:25)

Close.

C (7:26)

That's close. We're here to detain and deport illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. That is literally the first I'm hearing of that. Well, it shouldn't be. Just so I know. What were you told you should be doing?

B (7:41)

Wilding out.

C (7:44)

You know what? Forget everything you were told before. We're not here to intimidate, racially profile, or violate anyone's rights. So, again, what are we looking for? Epstein files. We actually just released those to distract from this, which is ironic because we did this to distract from those. So, anyway, guys, it's not just about doing the mission. It's about doing it the right way. A lot of the bad press we're getting is coming from the aggressive tactics we've been using. And the Nazi coat.

B (8:18)

Yes, the Nazi coat.

C (8:20)

Very good. So let's talk about use of force. When do we want to use force? Right away. No, Think of the opposite. Right. Preemptively. Also no. It's kind of a trick question because we actually don't want to use force. Remember, the job ultimately is about keeping America safe. From what?

B (8:47)

This could be wrong.

C (8:48)

But, Don Lemon, that is wrong.

B (8:53)

Yes. Criminals.

A (8:57)

Teacher.

C (8:58)

Not a teacher. Oh, go ahead.

B (9:02)

Some of these people protesting have guns that shouldn't be allowed. Right.

C (9:07)

Well, let's flip it around. Right. How many of you went to A stop the steel protest with a loaded automatic weapon. Fellas, look, you got to do better. Look, I'm Tom Homan, okay?

A (9:24)

I am.

C (9:27)

I'm the separating families at the border guy. I'm the on film taking a $50,000 bribe guy. And y' all are making me look like the upstairs standing reasonable adult in the room. That's crazy. All right, let's open it up to some questions. Yes, you. I have a question about the local police. That's great. I was hoping someone would bring this up because there's been, you know, some friction there. What's your question about the local police? How come I wasn't allowed to be in them? I'm not sure. Yes. Yes, You. Yes. So I have a question about destroying evidence. Yeah, let me stop you right there. You should never, never destroy evidence. Got it. Don't wink. Don't win.

A (10:18)

Don't wink.

C (10:19)

Now, who else has a question? Yes, you.

B (10:22)

Yeah. How come all the fast food in this city tastes like spit?

C (10:29)

It's best not to really think about that, you know? All right, one more question.

A (10:34)

I just heard that I'm being detailed.

C (10:36)

To the super bowl, but I'm looking in my ticket app, and I don't see a ticket. Right, so you won't actually have a seat.

B (10:45)

So we're playing in it. Guys, guys.

C (10:50)

No, no.

A (10:51)

Let's.

C (10:52)

Let's recap. What have we learned today?

B (10:56)

This could be wrong, but that you hired a bunch of angry, aggressive guys, gave us guns, and didn't train us, so this is maybe what you wanted to happen.

C (11:04)

Oh, come on, man. Start thinking now. Give me 20.

B (11:11)

How about three with knees, girl style?

A (11:15)

Never mind.

C (11:16)

Look, the situation out there has been rough, and we need to lower the temperature. So let's get out there now. Let's show some restraint. Let's do our job without violating anyone's rights as Americans. Can you do that? No. Well, I have to ask. Maybe just try not to get filmed and live from New York. It's Saturday.

B (11:38)

Jesus Christ.

A (11:40)

It's sad because you know it. I watch SNL and Live for New York Saturday night. It brings people back to their childhood, good times, like. And it's the same thing with the super bowl thing, man.

B (11:55)

Yeah.

A (11:55)

Like it. The. They're calling it the gayest super bowl of all time. It's all left wing, demonic, like. I mean, dude, half of America signed a petition to have Metallica play at the Super Bowl. Yeah, they were just like, no, it's got to go to Bad Bunny. I don't even know what that is, I don't, I'm almost 40 and I've never heard of Bad Bunny. And they're playing, I don't know, that used to be like Aerosmith and things like that.

B (12:24)

I mean, JT would play, you know, I mean, like.

A (12:28)

Yeah, I mean, dude, to be honest with you, I wasn't a JT fan. But that makes more sense. He's. Yeah, I mean, international superstar. I get, I get the money aspect or the popularity. It wasn't my pick, but, but I understand it this. I don't even.

B (12:45)

I. I'm at the point now where I gotta ask kids, like, who the is this person? Like, who is Bad Bunny? I mean like, and let's be honest here, like, if I'm asking the teenagers, they're not watching the Super Bowl. Like, you know, us 30 and 40 year old men, that's your demographic. So what the are they actually doing? It has to be something more than just the demographic that they want.

A (13:08)

Yeah, exactly. The. The Agenda 6 Jedi says Tyler got the CC shirts yesterday. It turned out great. Really like the Patreon one. Thanks, brother. The Patreon one is not the Patreon one no more. It's. It's out there for everybody. But thank you guys for pre ordering. It means a lot. And I am wearing the Forever and anti Hero hoodie not from Counterculture but from the anti hero broadcast website.

B (13:35)

And I'm wearing a counterculture or a anti hero skull that's.

A (13:39)

That's from counterculture. As this all is, we're getting it. My big thing is branding and separating and like Mike Night Shift shirts up on Cotteville. I've got anti hero shirts up on Counterculture. But at the time we didn't have a merch store just for anti heroes. So like I had to sling anti hero shirts just to get them out there. And so we have a different distributor for them. And it's, you know, an artist, Natalie, she makes all the designs and you know, really, it's really fast too. It used to be like, man, if I had a design, I had to design it or have it designed. I had to order the shirts in bulk myself. Like 500 a pop. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's probably like 2,250a pop for 50 blank shirts. Then I had to take them to a printer, send the image files to the printer, which is next door, and then pay for the image to be put on there. Then I get the box back in like a week or two and then I have to fold them, check them, bag Them, tag them, send them. That whole process is not a thing with the anti hero because we pay money for all of that. It's all done. It's a one and done thing. So we. I don't really make that much money off the shirts for Antihero, but it's more to get merch out there. So, like when Brady or, you know, Dylan or anybody comes up with the design, we're able to just slap it on a shirt and just start sending it. It's. It's a lot more efficient.

B (15:05)

Dude.

A (15:06)

Yeah.

B (15:07)

Clint says I need to do a shadow cast waffle top.

A (15:14)

Yeah, Heather, I'll send it to her. Just don't even forget. Efren says that's actually pretty funny. Like I said, snl, I mean, we, they're always going to lean left. But that was back before, you know, when that started in the 70s or whenever it started in the 80s and the 90s, you know, SNL was still funny, but we didn't know what we know now about the deep state and about the left agenda. And now that we know, it's hard not to still like to watch things that reminded us of good times, like the Super Bowl. I mean, dude, when that, when that NFL brings you back to like 12 years old, like watching the game with your dad and you know, football, the NFL is like, clearly it's. I shouldn't say clearly. It's starting to show signs of working for the agenda. Like we saw, you know, they were, they were doing the whole say their name thing. When criminals were killed by the police, they were wearing them on their helmet. And I, that's, to me, that's politics, right? Oh, we're trying to pander. But then when, when the NFL started losing numbers and views in record like, oh yeah, record breaking analytics, they still didn't change their course, their pivot. Like I get as a business, you try to, you stay with the most popular demographic. Like, oh, people are gonna like this. And when all of NFL were like, no, dude, no, they still went with it. Which means that kind of like how Target did the whole. Like, Target was doing their thing and losing.

B (16:44)

Yeah, the trans gay stuff. Yeah.

A (16:45)

Yes. And they were losing. Like, people were looking at the numbers like, there's no way. And Bud Light did the same thing. They were doing all these things and it didn't make sense to keep doing it. Like I said, I get the one off try. Then when the whole world goes Bud Light, we don't want to drink a can with a tranny on it. Like, okay, Bud Light should have said, sorry about that.

B (17:05)

I mean, and you know, to Bud and Bud Light's credit, you know, after that whole debacle which lasted about six months, what did they go do? They went, we'll go back and get Dale Earnhardt Jr. That will help. You know, I mean, because again, that's a brand. I mean, that's a real brand. That's real brand recognition right there. And that is.

A (17:24)

Yeah, they, they re. They re. They signed with again with ufc. Yep. USC took a bunch of hit, but then Dana White came out and said, listen, dude, Anheuser Busch employs millions or not millions. Yeah, like crazy amount of Americans. They, you know, they're a good company. A one off media guy tried this, you know, idea and, you know, they're a good company and they worked with us when no one would. So everybody was like, well, if it's good enough for Dan, it's good enough for me. But I was like, target and all them. Well, I realized that they're funded by BlackRock. Like, you have to go deep down the rabbit hole to realize how could a company continue to push an agenda, lose all their business, lose money at astronomical rates and still continue to do what they're doing? You're like, oh my God, this is bad business. It. They're being funded. They're like that money that's gone is being replenished by BlackRock. Right. And so it. That's that sort of plant to destroy the west and bring in the devil. That's all they wanted.

B (18:29)

And I mean, even it just goes so much deeper. Not just into like things like NFL, but it also goes into like, you know, big screen, small screen, you know, Hollywood stuff. You know, the amount of movies that have come out that have just flopped bad, coming out of Disney, coming out of, you know, major, major companies, and it's like, oh, okay. And then, you know, the other complaint too is like, there's nothing real anymore. Everything is, you know, a rehash is something that we watched, you know, 20 years ago and was good 20 years ago. Now we want to make it again. I'm waiting for the last Starfighter to get made again. You know, like, what is going. What's going on? Man? The hardest part about all of this is that if you try to scrape it and do, you know, any kind of analysis, it's so all over the board, you can't figure out what is actually going on. Which. Which is either like a really good deception operation or maybe there's. There's no plan really, except just Keep doing things until something happens. Not like they're literally throwing everything at the board and seeing what sticks. But you're right. I mean, how did. How do you know all these films flop and, you know, companies like Warner Brothers not go under. You know that.

A (19:49)

Supplemental income, baby.

B (19:50)

Yeah. Where's it coming from? Is it coming from China? Is it coming from Soros? Is it coming from a lot of different people?

A (19:56)

Who. Who.

B (19:57)

I mean, it may not always be one thing. It may be China helping them. It may be Soros helping them. And each one is helping for different reasons and getting different things out of it. You know, that's.

A (20:10)

Dude.

B (20:10)

Like, you know, Aquaponics says the Last Star Fighter is based. Yeah. Because it was about protecting the border.

A (20:19)

Dylan says my wife's uncle is Jim Brewer.

B (20:22)

Wow.

A (20:23)

He married us. And then. And when he was on there, SNL was great. Jim Brewer is amazing. He's got that skit called the Stomach Party where you. Yeah. You invite all the different alcohols in your part in your stomach, and they don't mix well and.

B (20:38)

Yeah.

D (20:39)

But.

A (20:39)

Yeah. So there's another thing I wanted to bring up. Let's see.

B (20:44)

So. Yeah. You had me do the research on. We're gonna do that ice and. Okay.

A (20:53)

I want to play the thing you sent me this morning, though.

B (20:56)

Okay. I'm. No.

A (20:57)

Yeah.

B (20:57)

From jd.

A (20:59)

Yeah.

D (21:11)

Being the one that was going to start calling out all of Hollywood and the music. Being the one that was going to start calling out all of Hollywood and the music industry, but here we are. She posted. Your favorite artist has been practicing rituals in a satanic cult where they take babies from other countries and mutilate and kill them as form of blood sacrifice to their God. You see, when your master is Satan, you must constantly shed blood. However, the jig is up. The deeper I dig into the files, the more obvious it becomes that this isn't just a conspiracy theory. Epstein was talking about it in emails with people that the government decided they were going to redact the names of so that we can't see in very thinly veiled code. Which means that our government is still covering and protecting these satanic pederus. But why would they be doing that? Because it's all of them. It's literally all of them. What do y' all think? Let me know down in the comments. Really didn't have Nicki Minaj being.

A (22:08)

Yeah, Nicki Minaj calling that out. Wasn't in my 2026 bingo card, but.

B (22:12)

Well, I mean, remember that. You know, I think it was Nicki Minaj That Dave Chappelle was like you. Or it might have been Cat Williams. Like. Like, dude, that. That. That's a real one right there. She doesn't stitch on nobody. She, you know, she keeps her mouth shut. She's got her own moral compass. Even if she does some, like. I mean, what would you rather have? Do you. Do you roll up a guy who slings cocaine or, you know. You know, whatever, or. Or do you really want to go after. Do you really want to go after, like, these people? Yeah. I mean, no. I mean, like. Like, if you got two criminals, you got. You got the. The child trafficking pedophile and you got the cocaine, you know, the big cocaine kingpin, who do you actually want?

A (22:55)

Yeah, I would definitely want to put. Not. I do. Not only do I want the pedal, I want the sacrificing kids. Dude, that is. I mean, it. I remember listening to Alice Jones, dude. I remember how crazy this sounded 10 years ago to me. I remember. But it. What it did was it planted that seed and left it in my brain for the seed to be watered. And the fact that, I mean, we put the clip out today of us talking about it, but. Yeah, I mean, that is.

B (23:26)

Dude.

A (23:29)

Satanic rituals where they don't sacrifice humans aren't a thing. You're insane.

B (23:35)

I mean, you know, Heather's right. You know, Mel Gibson was. Was talking about this stuff for a while, and everybody painted him as an anti Semite and. And a crazy person and a drunk, which, I mean, you know, he maybe was a drunk, but I mean, if you're seeing all that, maybe knocking a few back probably wouldn't be the biggest problem. And we're really starting to get a good view. I mean, hindsight's 20 20, right? But we're starting to get a good view of, like, things that we saw 10 or 15 years ago. That was like, wow, that is. That is really weird. And, you know, it just kind of came and went, and now we're looking back. We're like, holy. That was the. That was the. The warnings that we just didn't see, by the way. Dylan just sent me a picture of him and his wife and Jim Brewer together. I'm gonna.

A (24:23)

Yeah.

B (24:24)

Oh, this was rehearsal night. I'm gonna put it up if. If that's cool.

A (24:27)

Yeah, yeah, put it up.

B (24:28)

All right, Let me download this and Dylan get in the chat if it's not cool.

A (24:32)

Feldman. Oh, he said it. He was trying to tell us. Yeah, I mean, there's. I. Like I said, I think there's different rings to it. Like, I think pedophilia is just the. The beginner stage of it. To me, pedophilia is like. Like sacrifice light, you know, like, yeah, you gotta move up to where you can actually slit a baby's throat and pour the blood on something for a sacrifice to a devil. Well, remember, Sound like insane people talking about this.

B (25:04)

Yeah, I mean, you. When you say it like that, it's like, dude, what in the are you talking about, man? Like, you. You've got to be on something, dude. And now we're looking at it. And I mean, like. And I'll give you an example. My. My uncle, right? So he's, you know, he married my aunt. He's a doctor. He. He's. He's a smart guy. Really smart guy. Really, you know, really well off. You know, won't say where he lives right now, but they're. They're about to be having a hard time with the. The current government. And he was telling us. Twenty years ago, he was telling me things like, hey, Jimmy, don't take that mefloquin when you go overseas. Don't take it. And I'm like, I don't have a choice. I have to take it. They're like, he's like, no, don't, don't. It's gonna you up, dude. And. And then we took it. And then he came back and I got up from it, and he was like, dude, it's blacklisted by the FDA now. I told you. And then he was saying stuff like. He was talking about this right there. Here. Like, they're sacrificing children. And. And this was 20 years ago. This is two, you know, 2005. And I'm like, yeah, no, come on, man. He's talking to us while we're out on the boat. And I'm like, whatever, dude. And now I'm looking at him like, that was right. What is wrong? What the. What the, man? I don't even know. I. I told you yesterday, dude. Like, I. I don't. I don't even have words for some of the stuff that I saw and read, and I just. I didn't even want to talk about it. It made me. It made me, like, uncomfortable in a way that I can't really describe. I mean, it was just. It was. It was really, really bad. So all of this, I don't even have. Like, what do you do to fight it? Right? Like, that's. That's the hardest part. And I know, I know your wife would say, you know, hey, we need to pray, we need to do our spiritual warfare. And that's great, but, and she's not wrong. I'm not saying that she's wrong, but it's like, okay, yeah, that's great. But like, also like, what, what can we physically do to fight this? Or are we, are, are we living in the, the, the, the tribulation before Christ returns?

A (27:16)

Well, I think all societies since the start of man, anything the occult or pagan based has always sacrificed humans. Oh yeah, my, my wife just put out a episode last night, so it's available now where they, they talked about. Have you, Jimmy, have you ever seen the movie Nefarious?

B (27:33)

Yes.

A (27:35)

Where he, you know, they're talking to a demonically possessed man and he's like, the sacrificing thing. You guys do that on your own? Yeah, he was talking about abortion. He's like, you guys slaughter thousands of babies a day. You know, we've been doing, but we've been doing this for thousands of years. And.

B (27:55)

Well, yeah, I mean, and that's the thing. I mean like when you go back and you read about Sodom and Gomorrah, when you, when you go read about like places that God was like, I'm wiping these people out.

A (28:05)

Right? And.

B (28:08)

There is, there are so many different times where you're like, holy, you know, God, God was really a vengeful God. You know, was it really that bad out there? And you read the stuff in the Bible, you're like, man, that, that sounds bad, but I, I just can't imagine that. And then you read this and you're like, oh, it's us, dude. Oh, it's us. Like, like, you know, if God set off a nuke tomorrow and we got vaporized with it, I'd be like, well, you know, this is it. Yeah, I wouldn't even be upset about it. Like, you know, drop the nuke.

A (28:40)

Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't think any, there's anything guys like me and you can do about it. You know, it clearly.

B (28:46)

Maybe, maybe this is what we can do.

A (28:49)

Yeah.

B (28:49)

Talk about it. Yeah.

A (28:51)

That's all we can do, man. I, we. What do we do? Every before every episode, we go out back, we say our prayers, we ask God to, to guide us in his will or to, to inform and entertain his warriors. That's, that's. And his will and his will only. And he's the one that makes all this happen. And he put us in touch with all these dudes right now in the chat. And, and ladies, I think there's two of them. Yeah.

B (29:15)

I mean, it. It's no, it's no coincidence, man, that, you know, as we, you know, the, The. The demographic of. Of anti. The. The old anti hero demographic was not the one that you wanted for what is coming. And, and I'm going to give you the. The biblical example.

A (29:35)

If you read about that. Love. That love.

B (29:38)

Yeah.

A (29:38)

Hate drama. Yeah.

B (29:40)

Yeah, it is. There's a story in the Bible, and I want to say it's Gideon, where he's got this army, and he. The Lord says, hey, you have too many. You have too many. I want you to. And he. He starts putting them through, like, different tasks. Like, anybody that wants to go home can go home. Hey, take them down to the river and anybody that dunks their head in the water, send them home. And anybody that drinks with their hand, you know, keep them. And he. And he just brings it down smaller and smaller and smaller until you have this really small core group of dudes that he's going to do his work with. And there's two real good reasons for that. Number one is you need the right. You're not looking for the best people. You're not looking for the most people. You're looking for the right ones. And the second is he takes the number. The number doesn't have to be big because this, you know, it's sort of like that, that, that, you know, Henry V speech. The fewer men, the greater share of honor God. The, the less people that we have the. And the more great things we do with it glorifies God more. Does that make. Am I making sense here?

C (30:46)

Yeah.

A (30:47)

Yeah.

B (30:47)

And. And so that's. That's kind of where I'm at. It's. Oh, Joe Ring says the Bible isn't a historical text. It's mostly allegorical to teach lessons and values to a people group. We look at it now through a scientific and more knowledgeable lens. That skews the context. That's not. That's not wrong. I think that everybody. You know, was there really a guy named Job? You know what I mean? I'm getting off topic. I know. I'm sorry.

A (31:18)

No, you're fine. I mean, Joe, he's a big supporter. I would have to.

B (31:22)

Yeah.

A (31:23)

I mean, I would have to push back and say if I lived one day. And at the end of that day, I went back and rewrote and tried to tell exactly how my day went. It's. Yeah. Might not be verbatim, step by footstep, word by word, but it's a. It's a. It's a historical depiction of what happened. So that's all subjectiveness. And my opinion is that, that's, that's my opinion is to say, well, the, the, the Bible wasn't historical context. It's like, well, I mean, I. Not Joe per se, but I think people use that and they go, well, it's meant to, it's meant to paint values. Like, so I don't have to live by the stories in the Bible as long as I live by the values. Like, okay, like, I'm not gonna sit here and argue Bible with somebody. I can't. I'm not, I'm not that good.

B (32:13)

You know, there's, there's, there's, there's plenty of, of things that happen in the Bible. And Joe, you're good, man. You know, you're an og. Don't, don't worry.

A (32:21)

Yeah, well, yeah, first off, you have an opinion. That's what the show' like, we're literally having somebody come on Thursday. The U.S. the USMC marine vet guy that talks about us all the time. I text, I messaged him. I'm like, dude, if you got so much to say, why don't you come on the show? And he's like, I will. He's like, don't hold back. I was like, well, we're not going to treat it. We're not going to invite you and get, get a gotcha moment. He's like, yeah, okay, that's fine, but don't hold anything back. I was like, okay. He says he does a lot of good work. He sent me all the charities he does for veterans with ptsd. So as long as two opinions can, can bring awareness to help people, that's what we're all about. So, Joe, absolutely. I could learn much from you as far as the Bible goes.

B (33:00)

Yeah. You know, don't, don't ever be sorry for having your opinion, dude. I mean, that's what this, that's what today is really about. It's the opportunity to, to talk and interact with you guys more than it is, you know, the masses at large. This is for the, the real, the, the real ones. I think that there's. Yeah, yeah. I think that there's some, there's some biblical lessons, like, and Job is one that I, I kind of scratch my head about and go like, did God and Satan really have a conversation and make a bet or is that allegorical? You know, and, and what I kind of go back to is when you listen to this, the, the stories and parables that Jesus tells. Right. If you're Going. If you listen to the story of, you know, the prodigal son, and you go, who was this man? What was his job? What city did he live in? You're asking all the wrong questions, right?

A (33:49)

Yeah.

B (33:50)

You need to be asking the question of, you know, what. What is this trying to teach me? What is the biblical lesson here that is truth in the faith that Christ is trying to tell me? And, I mean, and. And when you have your eyes open, it's really easy to see. So I. I think that in some cases, you're absolutely right. There's parts in the Old Testament.

A (34:11)

You know what this reminds me of, Jimmy? You know, when, like, you're. Like, when I say you're. I don't mean you specifically, but when we're. When we're in with our spouses, Right?

B (34:19)

Yeah.

A (34:19)

Passionate, heated. Both sides want an outcome, and what do you start doing? All right, tell me a time that happened. And they're like, I don't know. What, you just did it? Like, no. Oh, you can't think of a time it happened? Yeah. Oh, it's kind of like me go, like, I'll do it. I do it. Like, I'll admit I do it to my wife all the time. Oh, okay. Tell me when. Well, I. She's like, I can't tell you exactly when. I don't have a journal, and I wouldn't tell me. Oh. So, you know, that's kind of like the same argument as I'm getting, like, almost like, not justification, but, like, not wanting to face the actual issue and deviate with details. And the details don't really matter when you're looking at something that big and broad.

B (34:59)

Yeah. And, dude, like, the enemy's biggest weapon is. Is creating a little bit of doubt. If you can create a little bit of doubt, he can keep pushing that down the board. So, you know that there's. Again, that's why we got to go back to the word all the time and remind ourselves of what is true. If he can create a little bit of doubt in your marriage, if he can create a little bit of doubt in your bosses, you know, do these people or your subordinates or. Or your friends or your kids. I mean, you know, pick somebody. Somebody in your family. Does this person really have my best interest? You know, you hear that voice all the time. I don't know, man. And that's. There's times when. Yeah, you need to look at that real hard. But there's other times where it's like, you can look at the. The confluence of things and go, no, no. Like, this person loves me. This person cares about me. My wife is not actively trying to destroy me. You know what I mean? And, you know. You know what I'm saying?

A (36:04)

Yeah, No, I know. I just have to leave the room for five minutes to get that mindset.

B (36:09)

Yeah, it's hard, dude, because that's what the enemy does, man. He creates a little bit of doubt. So whenever you look at the Bible, don't ever look at it and go, well, maybe some of it's true and maybe some of it's not. That's creating doubt. You look at it and go, all of this reveals truth about the Father. Whether or not it happened at, you know. You know, 720 BCE is not freaking important. It's not important. What is important is, does it reveal truth about the Father and his and the way he wants us to live? Yes. That's all I need to know.

A (36:43)

And, you know, just because it happened then does not mean that it's not going to happen now. You know? Nothing. Like, I can't figure out if I want to watch you on the big screen or watch you on the computer.

B (36:52)

Well, dude, I. I struggle with that too, because, like, I want to look at the camera and I want to talk to people, but I also, like. Yeah, you know, I also, like, want to, like, Because. Because you make some of the craziest faces. Like, I'll say something, you'll be like, watson. I mean, yesterday. Yesterday was heavy, dude. Yesterday was heavy.

A (37:15)

Yeah, it was. He had a lot of logistics going on, too, so I know that.

B (37:18)

Oh, dude.

A (37:19)

Yeah, it's probably wedged in a very stressful day, dude.

B (37:23)

It was. It was a stressful couple of days, you know, and, you know, again, knew it was coming kind of, you know, you have a plan and then you make first contact with the enemy, and it doesn't. It doesn't go the way you want it to. But the Lord did provide. And I mean, I was, you know, I was struggling yesterday. I mean, I called you right after. I was like, dude, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm doing the best I can here. And then, you know, I was praying and I was like, lord, I gotta have a place where I can do this. My job. I got to do my job. And what did he do? He put me up in an awesome place with a studio, basically, and was like, here? You're gonna stay here until you move to your apartment?

A (38:01)

Yeah. That's cool.

B (38:03)

That. I mean, that's. That's the Lord, right?

A (38:05)

Yeah. Yeah. So I See what you put down. So this is dial on Jim Brewer at. Is this Dylan's wedding?

B (38:14)

Yeah, that's his rehearsal.

A (38:16)

That is crazy, bro. Yeah, big Jim Brewer fan, dude. And he's a, he's a, he's a real one. I've, I haven't seen half baked in like 25, 30 years, but probably 25 years, but Jim Brewer is the man, dude. He's, he's, he's kind of like the white version of Cat Williams or Dave Chappelle.

B (38:39)

I love Jim Brewer. I mean, what a, what a cool guy. I mean, I gotta tell you too, like, you know, I got, I got messages from like three different people last night telling me, like, hey man, we're on, we're gonna play. And I'm like, ah, guys, I'm in the middle of moving. You know, I want to get on there and play video games with these dudes because it's fun, man. I mean, I know it's not your thing, but like, it's, it's. Yeah, I'll do it.

A (39:04)

So what we'll do is we'll go, we'll talk about this border thing. I'm, I'm sure we will touch upon it Thursday when, when more information, information comes out. But what I want to do is what, what I saw this morning was, it was this on Instagram from old Patrol hq, right? And it said, Greg Bavoni's relentless enforcement team, heroes who sacrifice everything to deliver the tough interior enforcement America demanded and Trump promised, has been disbanded. His Border Patrol agents are now being folded into ERO led teams. Two BP agents per team supporting targeting ops and security. Under exclusive ERO leadership. The varsity team is now working for the freshman squad. What do they mean by that?

B (39:48)

Okay, so here's what I've actually looked into. So basically what happened is that the Border Patrol, the engagement and, and like, activity, significant acts of the Border Patrol is way down. It's way, way down. So what they want to do is take seasoned officers from the Border Patrol and put them with these guys and go, okay, you guys now can have better interactions because we've got seasoned guys working with new guys.

A (40:23)

Okay, so it's all Border Patrol. It's just. They're putting, they're mixing it up.

B (40:27)

Yeah, so you got guys like, like.

A (40:29)

That bad of a strategy to me.

B (40:31)

No, no, it's actually a really, really good idea what they're trying to do. Yes, he's. They're right. The people that are in charge are going to be the people that are still doing all this, you know, targeting stuff within the United States. But what they want to do is take seasoned officers from the border, put them with these new guys and, and have a cross bleed of ttps and thoughts and things like that. And you know, this is, this is a good thing in my opinion.

A (40:58)

Yeah, I mean look at any, any type of platoon or squad. Obviously rank typically isn't, is a indic or not an indicator, a representation of also experience in seniority. So we have rank like big sarge on the road or in the military. We have our all of our rank from team leader on up. And that usually comes with typically experience. And so when the young new guys are out there like bulldogs, you have more wisdom and strategy behind being able to put them on leashes and go. I love the enthusiasm and I love the energy, but here's how we're going to utilize it so you're not out there just right.

B (41:36)

And, and that was, that was the big, that was the big one was like what do we do to.

A (41:45)

We've.

B (41:46)

Because I think the criticism was, I mean we, we criticized the, the ice, some of the ICE operations and tactics techniques and procedures that they did and I think rightly so, I think we're really fair about it. And I think that our, you know, people like us were heard inside and outside the, the organization and they said, okay, what can we do to inject some maturity and some, you know, experience into this? And they went, well, we don't need as many people on the border anymore. So let's take the guys from border patrol who've been out there for 10 or 15 years and put them with these new guys. And now you got two of these dudes rolling with two of their dudes.

A (42:28)

Right?

B (42:28)

So you gotta, you get, you basically like I'm, I, I think of it like this. If you had a platoon that had all combat bets and then you had a platoon or a company that had no combat bets, you take that platoon of combat bets and you'd break them up. You could keep them all together and that one platoon will do great things. Or you can break it up, spread out the experience and you can make a whole company do good to great things.

A (42:53)

Yes, I agree.

B (42:55)

And so it's.

A (42:56)

So what it's being painted as, this is kind of like, I don't want to call it right wing propaganda, but if I had to label it something, it would be something to stir up though.

B (43:06)

Yeah. And, and look there, I'm sure that there are guys just because you know it as well as I do. There are guys that are on the border patrol that are like, I like my job here. I do not want to go do this. I don't want to leave my buddies. I don't want to leave my squad. I don't want to go.

A (43:24)

You're gonna get two. Two types of dudes, bro, that go to Minneapolis, that deploy. The first type is the type you just said. They don't want to be there. They don't want to go home. They're already on the border, you know, for their tour, they have to live near the border. They're gone for three or five days or whatever for the, For. For their family and, you know, doing their tour. The last thing they want to do is go into another city that they don't live and be away from their family. The second guy is the guy that does want to go, and he's even probably more dangerous because, like, we wanted to go to Iraq and Afghanistan. What do they want to do? They want to go up. And you know what? I'll be the first one to tell you. It would be fun to up a bunch of liberals, not kill them or really hurt them, but go out there and hit them with and throw them around. And, I mean, that would be fun. I'm not. I'm not gonna lie to anybody. That would be fun. I mean, is it good? No, it's not good.

B (44:20)

I, I. I saw. I saw a video of. It was somewhere in South America. It was all these riot cops. They. They were, like, staged up. It was like 50 of them, right? And they're in a. In a, you know, five, you know, five column formation, and they're got their shields, they got their helmets, they got their sticks, and they're marching towards this crowd. And, you know, like, you can just tell by the way that they're walking that, like, they are getting ready to some people up and, like, I was like, man, you know, how cool would it be to be in that group? Like, yeah.

A (44:52)

We were talking about the guys that got sent there right now. Their mindset changes when they're there. The morale's down. They're trying to find different things to do. And. Yeah, dude, when. When you're, when you're physically fighting people, it does.

B (45:04)

You get.

A (45:04)

You're a human being, dude. There's no, Like, I have to protect these people as they throw rocks at me. No, dude, it's like being in a fist fight and worried that you're gonna punch him too hard. That's not how it works. It's not. Or worrying he's gonna fall and hit his head. You don't worry about that stuff in real combat and in real time. In real time, you don't worry about stuff like that. And yeah, and again, people are gonna. I. There's all kinds of ICE agents in our DMS calling us, you know, liberal and say we're against ICE and we're absolutely not. And we're the ones sitting here trying to explain to people that, you know, what they're trying to do is a. Is a reasonable plan that works for everybody. And it's just. It's too divided now. The. The issue's too big. And. But I welcome anybody that's former ICE or current ICE or trains ice. We've been sitting here saying we would love to talk to somebody, you know, about it. And it gets. But, you know, until somebody comes and goes, hey, I'll talk to you about it. I used to work with ice, Right. No. There's no reason why a retired I agent can't come on the show and. And explain some things to the best of his knowledge about how ICE works and how. How they could have ended up in the situation that they're in right now. There's nothing saying they can't do it.

B (46:16)

Yeah. And I mean, I think that there is the. The other part that's really funny to me is that we get the people in the comments that say or in our DMS that are like, you guys are liberals in this. And then we get all these other comments and dms like, you guys are trying to Trump Cucks. You know, you guys love. You know, you're not calling out Trump at all. It's like, we can't be both, dude. So we must be doing something right if we're getting hate from both sides. Yeah. You know, I'm sure.

A (46:43)

I'm sure we'll touch upon it on Thursday a lot more. I'm sure there'll be new developments, but just kind of wanted to. To understand it a little bit better because, you know, I mean, that clickbait on Instagram, and it makes me mad. I'm like, oh, they're coming, cutting the balls off. And it's like, no, yeah, real cops on the street. Yeah. And maybe I'm biased because I did that for 10 years, but, you know, they are castrating law enforcement on the streets. But I don't think that ties into the ICE situation in Minneapolis. I don't think it's the same thing, and I don't think you can use those same terminologies in that situation.

B (47:18)

I, I, I think, honestly, like an alien.

A (47:21)

You're coming through like an alien.

B (47:23)

Am I coming through like an alien?

A (47:24)

Yeah.

B (47:25)

Am I still very distorted? Yeah, you sound distorted on my end too. Huh?

A (47:31)

What? Who sounds distorted to everybody? Is it me distorted? Yeah, you're still distorted. Somebody comment. Somebody put it in the chat. Who's.

B (47:42)

Is it me or Tyler or is it both?

A (47:46)

Might need to do that reset with the audio thing Jimmy does.

B (47:50)

Okay, hang on.

A (47:52)

Back out and back it. Actually, Jimmy, if you want, I can take, I can take, I can do a couple ad reads, take an early commercial break. Yeah. And then we'll get back, pop back in. That's what she said. All right. Ew. No, that's not what she said. Hey, real quick, guys. So obviously crave creatine. Good dudes out of Florida. We talked with them, we worked with them extensively for like two months before we partnered. Wanted to make sure the same thing didn't happen to us to happen with tasty gains. So we all need creatine for a magnitude of reasons. And it pulls water into the muscles for size and definition. And it recently, in the last couple years have been proven to improve mood and brain function, builds up to 30% more lean muscle, and boosts strength up to 30%. When you take creatine, you give your body more power and that means you can lift more, recover faster, and stay sharp all day. And those three things I will, I will 100 vouch for that. Is very true. Take three gummies a day and get your full five grams. A little bit more than five grams. It's like 5.5, but it's, it's fine. You can take up to 10 grams a day if you really wanted to, without. No, actually, don't listen to me. Don't do that. Just take three gummies a day. If you don't like the flavor or you don't see a difference, they'll give you a money back or you give your money back with a full money back guarantee. So go to Crave. Use promo code anti air 15. Tell them we sent you. Got a couple more for the boys. Jimmy's back. Hi, Jimmy.

B (49:20)

Okay. Hey. Do I still sound like you're still distorted?

A (49:23)

You're still distorted.

B (49:24)

What the man? I have no idea.

A (49:27)

It's weird because when you whisper, I can hear you, but then as soon as you put decimal in your voice.

B (49:33)

Let me, let me play with this here. Does this help at all? Is this helping?

A (49:39)

No, no.

B (49:40)

God damn. I don't know, man. Like, this is a whole new Setup for me so I tried turning it off, turning it back on.

A (49:46)

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C (51:12)

Okay.

B (51:13)

Yeah, I'm back.

A (51:15)

Can't still distorted bro. Can't hear you now at all. Maybe just back out and then just try the. The PC audio. Or you could always use your phone where's. Okay, bye. And we already did. This is really chill and laid back guys. But flatline fiber go to flatlinefiber.com they've been a sponsor for a long time. Chad's a really good dude. He's. He's in it sticking, sticking it out with big industries. Small business owner provides great stuff. He gives us stuff to give away on Patreon all the time. Use promo code Aaron Tire 15 for rifle slings, dump pouches, ifax. Anything you need for your shooting and your rifle they have. All right, we're gonna go to a quick commercial break. We'll be back. And hopefully Jimmy has fixed his.

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A (53:37)

Sa. Oh, pixelated, huh?

B (55:02)

Yeah, well, it's cleaning up a little bit. Is it me? Am I still a. Do I still stand?

A (55:08)

No, you're good now. It was, it was. It was audio again. It's always something, always something.

B (55:14)

But, you know, I mean, dude, when you try to do something this complex, you know, I was looking at. I was looking at one of Dale Jr's podcasts and he was on with Kevin Harvick and I was like, God, man, their. Their cameras look so good and everything looks so good. And I'm like, oh, yeah, because it's produced by Fox, you know, like, yeah, yeah, like. Like let's. Let's be real here, you know, and you're not a Minecraft character anymore, so.

A (55:46)

Four knuckleheads trying to figure this stuff out. But it's. It's all. You know, I. I love it when people say when this show gets professionals, the day I leave. Like, yeah.

B (55:59)

Like I. I mean, dude, it's serious though. Like when McAfee first started, McAfee was amazing and it was so much fun to watch. And now you watch McAfee and it's like watching any other show. It's like, this isn't. You know, it. It's not as relatable anymore.

A (56:17)

Oh, wow. Was a border patrol agent. Okay, I. I get every. It's bad enough we got two Bradies that are huge loyal supporters, but there's Fumasa.

B (56:32)

Yeah.

A (56:32)

And there's another one that sounds like it that just joined Patreon. It's like Musapa.

B (56:45)

Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

A (56:47)

Fumasa. Okay, we got that. And then we got. Man, I wanna. I'm not gonna stop until I find this.

B (56:57)

Yeah, well, in the meantime, I'll. I'll do some talking while you go looking. You know, I would love to hear from anybody who has been.

A (57:09)

Okay, they're not even close. Mish, man, I Don't know why I got the. I can't remember everybody's names. I know one of them names, Ian.

B (57:21)

So.

A (57:21)

Yeah, so too. That would be awesome, dude.

B (57:27)

Yeah, I would love to. I would love to talk to somebody who's been involved with ICE recently, you know, and just. Yeah.

A (57:36)

Even if it's not that recent, just like, hey man, it's better than us just speculating like from outsiders, you know.

B (57:43)

And you know, this is the same thing that like I want, this is one of the reasons why I want to talk to Eddie Gallagher before I do anything about Red Wings. If you talk about something, right, you talk about an operation or operations in general and you criticize the tactics and you go, these guys are stupid. That's. I mean people do that all the time. But what people really should do is go, did they do the tactics that they were trained to do? Because if they did what they were trained to do, if they did what they had practiced all the time and it didn't work, then you can't really hold the officers responsible. That's on the organization. Right. But if people are, are not given any training or trained the right way and don't do it, then that's on the operator. That's on the individual street cop or whoever it is.

A (58:36)

Yeah.

B (58:37)

And, and you know, that is as a historian and as just a. Who carried a gun. Like I, I want to give all of these guys the benefit of the doubt and go, maybe there is a good reason why they are doing what they are doing, or at least they think there is. And what they need somebody to say is instead of going, you're stupid, you suck. Go guys. Your tactics are bad and here's the proof. That doesn't mean you're bad people or you're stupid.

A (59:06)

That's why I won't. That's why yesterday when I said I'm not going to do the whole. I don't agree with the whole 99.9 of ICE agents are good dudes because that leaves that 0.01 for us to just lump in people that made a mistake because their training was bad. A mistake, A training mistake, even, even when it results in death is a training and all. Obviously we. He's a grown ass man. We, we hold him accountable. But that's not where the accountability stops. It's not, it's not. If he was, if he was, if he murdered somebody in cold blood or he stole or he did anything like that, sure, there's that. That's not a training thing. That's Just a bad human, but there's so few and far between, I can't even remember.

B (59:48)

I mean, there was. There was an incident. The one. The most egregious one I saw. There was an incident with the. I think it was a sheriff's deputy up in northern Florida who was planting evidence, and it was on his own body camera that he was planting evidence and traffic stops and things.

A (60:06)

I remember that. I remember that. Yep, that's one. And then in my agency in 2024, bro, there was this dude, he was a sergeant named Sergeant Shea, and he was held in such high regard, and he what? He talked a suicide guy off a bridge and was praised for it, which is fine. I'm not on that. That's great. Yeah, I won a bunch of awards and stuff. And he was married to a female lieutenant named Lieutenant. Her last name was Shea as well. And they got divorced. The sergeant, Shea got fired or left for whatever reason. Six months later, he murdered her and made it. Staged it like a suicide. So for a week, everybody. You know how I. Is, I can't say. Or investigations in general, you can't say anything. So it came out of suicide. Everybody's like, man, dude, that doesn't make sense. But, like, all suicides never makes sense. It never makes sense. Then it turns out he shot her in the head and staged as a suicide. He went to prison. Like, whoa. That was. I mean, that was a sergeant cop. Sergeant cop talking guys off bridges, dude.

B (61:11)

I mean, like, you know, the. You know, and it's too bad Mike's not here, because I'm gonna say something that would make him laugh, and he'd probably have a funny comment to say, but he. You know, there's a. There's a comic book called the Killing Joke, and it's a Batman comic book, and it's about, you know, the Joker and Batman. And Joker basically tells Batman, all it takes is one bad day for good people to go bad. It only takes one. And. And I really do believe that in most cases, you can look at people and go, yeah, this was a bad day. But then there's other people that are really nefarious people. And like, in the case of the. The cop that, you know, murdered his wife, it's like, okay, that was clearly premeditated. That, you know, you. He was ruminating on that for a while, and he probably was a good guy, but we don't know what was going on behind the scenes. You know, for all we know, I mean, he was. She was, you know, doing terrible things behind the Scenes, and he had just had enough, you know, I'm not saying it's right, but I mean, like, there's probably. He didn't probably wake up one morning and go, you know, we haven't talked in, you know, six months, and she's moved on. I'm just gonna go smoke her, make it look like a suicide. You know what I mean?

A (62:22)

Yeah, I don't know. I like the balls you take, Jimmy. I'll say that.

B (62:27)

What?

A (62:27)

Hey, we ain't gonna get anywhere without causing some ripples, dude.

B (62:31)

Yeah, I mean, look, dude, like, we don't know, Dude. It's like. Okay, look, I'm gonna quote Bill Burr here, all right? When a building catches fire, do we not do an investigation and go, aha, here's an oily rag. All right, we. We know how this building caught fire. You know, can we just. Can we just go ahead and agree that all ass whoopings don't fall out of the sky? It's not like, oh, baby, can you please pass me the tissues?

D (62:59)

Oh, God.

B (63:00)

Oh, God. You know, it didn't. Didn't go down that way. There was a lead up.

A (63:06)

Yeah, you know, Mrs. Jimmy noted. Real quick. I just gotta go find my cap to my coffee. Yeah, we're gonna get into counterculture gaming. Oh, yeah. All right, bear back.

B (63:22)

All right, so while we're. While Tyler goes and gets his cap for his coffee, you can listen to the dulcet tones of Jimmy Arnett, bringing you all the greatest hits from Distractionary Blows or the War Hat, one of the. One of the great unsung ballads of gunfighters everywhere. And, you know, you guys can tell me if you think that my radio voice is good enough so that we can go ahead and do that. Or maybe I'll just start Jimmy asmr. You know, that might be fun, actually. No, that would be terrible. I'm literally just speaking into the microphone right now because I don't know what else to talk about. So you guys get the chat. Let's go. Oh, God. Let's see. 8 to 10 on the radio Voice. Hey, thanks, Brady. I appreciate that. Eight out of ten. You, dude. That's for you, dude. I appreciate it, though. I do, actually, you know, it's kind of nice. It's kind of nice. You know, it's like, you know, it's such a wild thing to be sitting here on. On Tyler's podcast and. And not know what to do when he's gone. It's almost like being back on the first day and, like, you're like, okay. And now he's back. Thank God I can shut up now.

A (64:46)

What I miss?

B (64:48)

I. Warhammer asmr.

A (64:52)

Yeah. All right. So like I said, Jimmy's planted this. This seed in my brain for a while. If it's not something I understand or I'm very passionate about, I actually do look at it and through a business lens, and I take my time and strategize on how to implement it. Right. If it's a something I want and I'm passionate about or something, like, I just full send it, but I'm the one that funds it and has responsibility if and when it fails, which has been a lot of things in my life. So the gaming thing, it's not just Jimmy, though. Ian, who has got to be somebody in here, and Dylan, I want to get. Hopefully Dylan's still in here. We want to get these guys involved. And so right now we've got, like, a committee of. Me, Jimmy, Tessa, Ian. Who is one of these names in here? I don't. You know what? I'm just gonna. I know who it is. I'm gonna look it up right now.

B (65:54)

He's Ian Fumasa.

A (65:56)

Fumasa.

B (65:57)

Yeah, he's Ian.

A (65:58)

Are you sure? That's him?

B (65:59)

That's what he said in the chat.

A (66:01)

Okay. That's him. Okay, cool, cool. Yeah. So me, you, Famasa, obviously, Mike, because he's an owner, but I'll probably not throw him in the group chat because he gets annoyed really easily with everybody. Yeah, Me, you, Tessa, Ian, and maybe Dylan get together, and we have to come up with, like, what's the goal? Is the goal for us to just game together is. And this is Patreon, so we can talk about. Is the goal to. Is it just unity? Is it awareness? Is it making money? Right. Like, those are all things that you have to. You have to answer these questions that you don't have to have all three. If it's just for awareness and us playing together, like, then that's fine too. It doesn't have to be a money maker. And if it is a money maker, who gets paid? Like, if they. If. If people. If. If everybody creates a counterculture gaming team and goes out there and wins a tournament, which is what Ian said is, you know, he said it's very lucrative. I don't know anything about that. So somebody's gonna have to manage all that. We talked. Jimmy talked about, you know, managing it for a little bit, but he's got a lot on his plate as everybody. So if somebody wanted to take the Reins and just, Just like a franchise, you know, hey, like, I run counterculture Gaming underneath the Counterculture Inc. Network. And you know, go ahead.

B (67:20)

What I, what I think really needs to happen is that, you know, we need to sit down with the OGs, you, me and Tessa, and, And just go, okay, let's make the Discord and then let's decide on who the mods are, right? Because once the Discord is made and the mods are set, right? So, you know, then it can. It's almost self sustaining. All we have to do is plug it and put content out, right? Which we're already putting content out anyway. So then we can just go, hey, here's some of our stuff. Right? Or they can go out there. And this is one of the great things about Discord is that they can go out there. Like, we'll use this as an example. I'm not saying that they'll do this, but like, Star Trek Online, right? They create a fleet in Star Trek Online, which is basically like a clan or a guild or anything else, right? And it's the counterculture fleet, right? So they're going out there, they're doing raids, they're taking video of what they're doing on. In the, you know, multiplayer online space, putting it out on YouTube, putting it into the counterculture stuff. Or we can then take what they provide. So, like, say, like, okay, Dylan and Efren and Colt and Joe and Tristan, they all go do a raid. They do something really cool. They put the video in the Discord. We put it out on the Counterculture YouTube channel.

A (68:40)

Right.

B (68:40)

So it goes from the Discord onto the channel. Right. We don't have to. We don't have to do much there.

A (68:47)

I'm assuming people know how to do that.

B (68:49)

I mean, the video, the going.

A (68:51)

He's like, I'm sure someone does.

B (68:54)

So it. It's not that hard to use Discord to upload a video. There's ways to do. I mean, it's really, really simple. So screen caps.

A (69:01)

I mean, at this point, we're so old, we'll probably have to have our kids help us, but I'm. I'm assuming guys in the chat that are half our age. Yeah. You know, if like, like for instance, like Dylan, I'm okay with being a mod. Yeah, man, I'm okay with being a mod. Obviously, you and Tessa being mods. And then. Yeah. You know, and Dylan said something up here. What would be the goal? Like, gaming news. There's a lot new metaguns for Call of Duty and Stuff updates every week, followers, 99 games and live streams. So that's what I naturally fall to is I have to have consistency. I have to have something that's consistent. Right. I get streaming and stuff like that are going to be more, more of like an emergency broadcast style thing where like people are just like, yeah, I'm gonna go play and I'm gonna stream it. Oh, this is a cool clip. It's not really scheduled so much because we're all grown ups, but.

B (69:50)

Right.

A (69:50)

I would like to have a weekly show ran by somebody who, I mean first off, your guests are limitless, right? Yeah, the whole network will come on the show. I mean with tons of hosts, tons of personalities, tons of the 99. But I would like a weekly show of just that, like updates like hey, this game's coming out, these are new mods, whatever the that even means. But like I don't, you know, have people on, you know, and there's always like, like I say when a new show starts out, a lot of shows don't, they don't make it because people realize about 30 shows in holy guacamole. This is, this isn't. It's not a full time job, but it does become a job. And you have to know what the you're going to talk about. You can't just go stare at a camera. I don't have care how many years experience you have. You cannot just go unless you're naturally gifted like Dom Izzo and your way through 30 minutes to an hour, it's just, it's insane. It's harder to do that than it is to just get the info you need to talk about. So maybe a duo of people, right, Maybe one person that could run the whole thing. But at the end of the day the goal is to not do it and go, I can't do, do this anymore. And so you know, and I'll be honest, on Patreon, you know, like guys on ground went through both hosts just for their own reason. Couldn't do it anymore. Right. That had a good run. It started gaining a lot of momentum with like guys like the 99, the infantry dudes. And then it shut down. HPTRT. You know, I'm, I'm third owner of that company and you know, Phil expressed interest in wanting to do a, a podcast or a weekly live. It just became too much booking guests, talking about TRT every single week. Like there's not that many updates in the TRT world. And I think that he kind of realized that and it was Taking up more time than it was. Value, that it was bringing value. So that reasonably went off the table. And we're working on another way to have, like, more of a fitness space show rather than just straight trt. But. But anyways. Yeah, so that. Those are the things that we're looking for if anybody's interested.

B (72:00)

If.

A (72:00)

Listen, first off, the support is enough. If we launch counterculture gaming and you support it by engaging or watching or playing, that is more than enough. Yeah, a lot of people want to help, but they realize that, like, well, I want to help, but I don't want to. Like. Like, as soon I know if I don't want to do something, I will tell somebody. I don't want to do that. Like, I. I don't have brain power, the capacity to give this much energy. Well, this is what I can do. So we'll have that. Me, you, and Tessa will have a meeting about what we want as a company, and then we will bring on Ian and then maybe Dylan, if Dylan is interested in it, and see what they. What they want to and realistically want to bring to the table. Maybe it's just. Maybe it's just gaming. Like, dude, I just want a game, you know, But I know I can't handle any more podcasts. Like, I can't do it.

B (72:55)

I can't. I mean, like, doing. Doing two podcasts. Yeah, doing. Doing the Shadow cast requires a lot to do. To talk for, you know, 45 minutes to an hour on a specific topic where you have no engagement, you have nobody to talk to, you have to just give the information. That takes a lot of time. And then, you know, prepping every single day for the show takes a lot of time. And then, of course, you know, you have normal stuff that you have to do. And. And it seems like, oh, well, there's. You know, you got plenty of hours in the day, Jimmy, to prep. And it's like, well, no, actually, I don't, because I don't know when I'm gonna have to drop what I'm doing and go start learning about this. And I'll give you a great example. This morning, Tyler sent me a text message about the. The. The stuff with border patrol and ice. And he's like, do you know about this? I said, no, but I'll look into it. So I spent the next hour doing that, and that's okay. That's my job. But when you start putting it all together, you go, like, I don't have the bandwidth to go. I don't want to make playing Video games. My job playing video games is fun for me. I want to keep it fun, and I don't want anybody to feel like it's their job, so you have to really want to do it. So in my mind, this is really more about community engagement. This is about, you know, getting the word out there. And. And here's the thing. Like Tessa, for example, so my daughter plays, like, valorant and things like that. She loves that stuff. That would be a good place for her to go, right? Hey, you can go play game. I would much rather my daughter go into our discord and play with other people than go into the wide world of sports that is out there. And God only knows who she's talking to. Does that make sense? So it not only provides a safe place for people to play with, you know, let their kids go on there and all that stuff. It also provides the community engagement. And as it starts moving forward, we can then identify, do we want to make this a gaming channel? Do we want to do that? Or is it counterculture gaming that, you know, hey, here's a cool thing that we did. Let's drop a video. Maybe we'll drop like a, you know, something cool that got put in the discord once a week, right? And that. That doesn't take much time to do. And then that way, the community is actually the one generating the content. And all we're doing is posting it on the platform, and then they can share it around and they could go, look, dude, this is what we did here. It's on YouTube, right?

A (75:33)

So, yeah, because Counterculture Inc. Has, you know, we have all of our pages for, you know, every podcast has their own sub podcast, sub podcast page. We got Counterculture Ink Sports. We obviously have the Counterculture Ink threads, the clothing line, Counterculture Inc. The media company. This would just be another extension of Counterculture. But it's a place for all of us, you know, host and, you know, get. We can make bets on how long I last in a round.

B (76:00)

Yeah, I. I mean, and that's the thing, too, is that it's like just like YouTube, people that are subscribed to the Patreon get access to more things, right? That's in the discord, right? So it can be like, hey, do you want to watch Tyler play Space Marine 2 with Jimmy and. And Dylan? Okay, let's go. You know what I mean? Like, and. And, you know, have a camera on you as you're like, what in the is happening?

A (76:28)

Yeah, that would be fun.

B (76:29)

It would be a lot of fun. And it's like, hey, that's only for. That's only for people that are in the Patreon, dude. Like, that's what Something you want to see or, you know, like, hey, you know, what is it? There's a game that I just saw my son was playing last night. I don't know. It's like, it wasn't Battlefield. It was like war or something. It's like, dad, do you want to play this game? Not really, man. I did too much of that war. I don't want to play realistic war games.

A (76:55)

Yes.

B (76:56)

I mean, it's like, would you want to play a cop simulator? Because they have those too.

A (77:00)

My dude. My son used to. It's been about a year. He bought a cop simulator game is walk around and write tickets. And I was like, oh, it'd be like some Grand Theft Auto. No, dude, it's like a patrol cop shift on a video game. This is boring as hell, dude. People are, like, arguing with you, and you could you pick a list and, like, what? The response is like, have a good day. You know?

B (77:31)

You know, we could go be bad cops. You know what?

A (77:35)

I've never seen that movie. I want to see it so bad. Oh, bad. What's the one? One of the Wayne's brothers and the dude where they pretend to be let's be cops.

B (77:44)

Yeah, let's be cops.

A (77:45)

I want to see that.

B (77:47)

All right.

A (77:47)

Dylan says could do an hour show once a week. First 15 minutes could be recap of the broadcast so people are in touch with the flagship show. Then 45 minutes of BSing video game. Hey, dude, let's do it, Dylon. Let's go, bro.

B (78:01)

You know, first of all, people don't know this, or maybe everybody in here does, but most people.

A (78:07)

People don't know.

B (78:07)

Dylan has been a dude that's been with Anti Hero since before Brent. Dylan has been an OG for a very, very long time. He kept going through when Brent was gone and didn't say a word until he felt like, I, I. This is a place that I could talk a dude. Clint. Dude. Gaming with Clint would be hilarious. He's just like, we're over there shooting people as he's giving us a running monologue of a story.

A (78:36)

What's really confusing about this right here is I don't picture Clint a Slipknot fan. That being said, you know, I'm a huge Slipknot fan.

B (78:49)

Yeah.

A (78:50)

Sean Crayon on his pro or the clown from Slipknot on his profile pic. So I don't know if Clint Was just on Google and like, oh, this looks like a cool picture.

B (79:01)

Yeah, I mean like Clint. Clint's another one, man.

A (79:07)

There's another Clint to call in on Thursday and recruit you into the army. That I like. Was thinking about that for like an hour last night. How funny.

B (79:18)

Okay, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna be 17 year old Jimmy again and like it, which, which is gonna be funny because like I, I have to like, like go back to that time because I was, I was such a wide eyed, naive like knucklehead. I, I had no business being as stupid and naive as I was, but I really was. I mean, I think we all were though. I mean you, you joined the army. Awesome. Which idea was. Oh, which, what's Liz, which idea are you talking about? Liz?

A (79:57)

I think she's probably just talking about counterculture gaming in general.

B (80:00)

Oh yeah, yeah. Well, I, I can't take credit for that. It's, it's not my idea. My. Again, just like a lot of things, you, you kind of come to the table and you kind of go like it started with me. We're going like, I really think Warhammer is a place to go. Which by the way, I again, I got.

A (80:19)

Well, it was a bit, it was a business decision. It was a business discussion about tapping into the market of Warhammer. You had. You think that people that play Warhammer are actually probably the same demographic of people that would watch our show.

B (80:32)

I do believe that. I still believe that. But the thing is, is that. And Tyler said, well, why don't you do your podcast about Warhammer? And I said, no, Warhammer, the, the Warhammer. No, the Warhammer lore space. If you just go, go on YouTube right now and you put in Warhammer lore, you will get probably 250 different channels of, of. Okay, there's no way that that would be good because it's not, it's not new. Right. The whole point of, of counterculture and anti hero in general is to be a place for veterans, first responders, blue collar Americans. That is, you know, that where we have to talk. And the whole reason that it works is because it is niche. There isn't anybody else doing it. So if anything that you want to do, you have to do, you have to kind of pick something that is, you know, nobody else is doing this. Gaming is one of those things that's sort of like everybody does that. So I mean it would be like, hey, do you like writing in English? You know?

A (81:45)

Yeah. Do you want to do a show about pumping gas?

B (81:48)

Like, yeah, like, everybody has to do that. But Warhammer has a good demographic. So what we can do is instead of going. And this was the conversation when we had was instead of going, like, do a Lore video, I was like, dude, we should play Space Marine 2. Space Marine 2 is great. Everybody loves it. Henry Cavill does this. It's awesome. Yeah. Clint doing a running monologue as we play the game would be hilarious.

A (82:19)

What platform is Warhammer available on?

B (82:21)

Warhammer is on all three platforms, so PC, Xbox, and PS5. And it's cross compatible, so you don't need to have one. If you are on a PC and I'm on an Xbox, we can still play together. So that makes it really, really simple. I'm also. I will probably do some Warhammer stuff just because I have so many people, like getting involved in it because I mentioned it. And then they're like, bro, this is way metal. And I'm like, yeah, I told you, Dan, it's great. Again, just to give you an idea, Tyler, like the, the big baddies in that game. Well, one of them is the forces of chaos, which are basically the forces of hell. There's demons, there's all this stuff. And one of the things that they do a lot of is like mutilation and human sacrifice and all this other stuff. And it's like, God, this is so evil. And so you're killing them with chainsaw swords and, you know, big ass guns and a big ass power armor as you just waste these dudes for the emperor. And you're like, yeah, all right. Kill this evil, right? And you're blasting heavy metal as you do it. Right? Well then you go look at the real world and you're like, holy, man, I could do this for real. Cool.

A (83:40)

Shooter is made. Just kidding.

B (83:45)

Yeah, no, we're. We're not actually killing. Yeah, no, that, that's. Yeah. But when we look at the. The gaming stuff, which is how counterculture gaming started, it was really more driven by the chat. The chat was the one that was throwing it out. The chat was the one that was saying, hey, we need to do this. And I went, dude, I got guys game. I'm gaming with guys now. We gotta tie it in. We gotta tie it in somehow.

A (84:15)

And so I, I think that it's a. I would. I think it'd be a good idea to like, do they still do like clan tags? Like, like people are saying like, CP gang. And like, yeah, if you all had the same, like, you know. Yeah, that's how you build. Like, hey, if they're Whooping ass. Like, who are these counterculture dudes? Like, oh, good. Holy. These guys are all from the same. Like they've. They all found each other somewhere else and they happen. I think that would be pretty cool.

B (84:44)

That's. That's exactly what I'm thinking. That's exactly what I'm thinking. Counterculture gaming would be. Counterculture gaming will be a place for guys that. And gals that are watching unfiltered, unfazed watching, antihero watching, you know, all the stuff that we have and also game. So they can all go together and. And then we can. We can throw Mike and Justin and canine and everybody can get in, you know? Yeah, there are some games out there. Like Starship Troopers. That.

A (85:15)

That's a game?

B (85:16)

Yeah, dude, it's. It's awesome, man. You know, you could have like 16. It's cross platform too.

A (85:23)

Wait, so there's a cat. There's a Starship Troopers game for Xbox.

B (85:27)

Yeah, I got it. I played it with my kids. It's a multiplayer online game, so you can have like a platoon of dudes fighting the bugs. And then it's like, okay, the mission's over. Everybody get to the drop ship. Let's go. Cover me, Tyler. Tyler's. Tyler's got the machine gun and he's gunning people down.

A (85:46)

I remember the first time ever, I want to say it was like seventh grade, we had our. The first for PlayStation 2. There was a game called SOCOM Navy Seals.

B (85:58)

Oh, yeah.

A (85:58)

That was the first time I ever played online with somebody. And my buddy Kyle had it and dude, it was like, it was a game changer, right? And so all through like high school and stuff, there was like, it was starting to evolve that there was. You could play online. But I really didn't get into Call of Duty until I came home from basic training and I had some vacation and I went and bought an Xbox 360 and bought Call of Duty Modern Warfare. And dude just could detach me from the tv. Like, it's just so much fun. I think as you grow up, it advances so much that you kind of lose interest in it. But. Yeah, well, maybe playing another game would be fun.

B (86:43)

At Clint, they do have mortars, but it's. It's more of like call for fire. It's not like, hang it, fire. But yeah, there's. There's a lot of fun stuff out there. And. And I think that's what. That's. The other thing that I meant to mention is that, like, I think Tessa really needs to have some serious input here because there's another demographic that I think that she can reach that you and I just can't. And that's going to be the, the ladies. Right?

A (87:13)

The ladies are the dudes that watch ladies play, which is not the demographic I want associated with us.

B (87:19)

No, no. But I, I, I, Yeah, that's, that's. No.

A (87:25)

If anybody in the chat's one of those dudes that watch, like, the girls play video games. Nothing against you. I, I sounded me when I said that I was kind of ball busting. I know a lot of dudes watch.

B (87:38)

So I, I think that what we need to do is Tessa needs to have input on. Like, Tessa pick. Pick three games. War Fighter was the one that. I think it was War Fighter they was playing last night. Tessa needs to pick three games that she's really wants to play.

A (87:55)

I think the biggest one is Fortnite.

B (87:58)

Fortnite is huge. Yeah. So I got a funny story. One of the female gun bunnies that is all over the place is Alex. Zedra. Right. The. The girls that go out and shoot guns and bikinis.

A (88:19)

Oh, the girls have no tactical training at all and hold guns like idiots.

B (88:23)

Yeah. Well, actually, she, she actually seems like she can shoot. Like, she's actually pretty good, you know, like, she's got some skill, but, you know, she's got tattoos. She's very pretty. And she plays video games. She plays Fortnite all the time. My buddy went to shot show, and he was. And she was there. And this was a guy I had, I'd been a sniper with. He had moved on to the 101st. He's one of those dudes that's, like, ruggedly handsome. So ruggedly handsome that it makes you, like, not like him sometimes you're like, you, dude. How did you get blessed with this jawline and this great beard and, like, you know, all this, so. And dude had. I've never seen this guy have a problem talking to chicks. He walked up to her and I had a conversation or went over there to, like, have something signed. He could not talk. It was hilarious. And she's one of the girls that plays Fortnite all the time. So Fortnite is definitely one of those, like, guys watch girls play.

A (89:24)

Okay.

B (89:25)

Yeah. My daughter brings up Valerie all the time. What?

A (89:30)

Quinn said those are the dudes that by far.

B (89:39)

Oh, my God, Clint.

A (89:44)

Oh, that shit's funny as hell.

B (89:47)

You know. You know why? You know why it's funny? It's because he's not wrong.

A (89:50)

No, he's not. Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to shame anybody.

B (89:58)

Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think that. I think only fans and all that is demonic and terrible. Stay away from it. But that being said, I think Tessa needs to come up with probably, like, three games that she thinks that are really, really cool for her to play. And I think the. The guys in the. The OGs and I need to come up with three games that we want to play.

A (90:22)

What would that. Your. What would your votes for them be?

B (90:25)

Starship troopers, Space Marine 2, and probably either Battlefield or Call of Duty, something like that. And it would be on a rotational basis, and we can run polls like, hey, you know, every three months, like, hey, you guys want to keep these games? Or we want to go just something else. And we don't even have to do that. Like, as the new games come out, people are going to gravitate to the newer stuff. So, like, I'll give you an example. Space Marine 2 is getting ready to have a big mod, which is a modification where they add a new class into the game. When that happens, everything's good. It. Everybody's going to be playing it again because there's a new class while this is happening. They're in the process of making Space Marine 3. There's also a bunch of other stuff coming out for Warhammer in conjunction with the big show that Henry Cavill and Amazon are going to do together. Right.

A (91:20)

So.

B (91:21)

So there's a lot.

A (91:23)

The show idea before Henry Cavill was a. Became public as a supporter, or do you think that when they saw that, they were like, if we were to make a hit show, this is our shot. Let's ask him to be in.

B (91:36)

I. I think what happened was when Space. When. So Henry Cavill was doing the Witcher, and he had talked about Warhammer a couple of times and in interviews. And then Space Marine 2 came out, and nobody expected it to be as big as it was. It took off, and it took off in a way that really spread it out far beyond just the niche Warhammer community. So it brought in all of these new people. Games Workshop, which owns the. The IP I, they made more tabletop stuff. They made more books, they made more lore. And then they started expanding on the main character from Space Marine two, which is a character from Space Marine One. And they. They started building models for this guy. And then they're like, okay, Space Marine 2 was really lucrative. And it was. It really went mainstream. Henry Cavill's our guy. He's already said here's what we can do. The problem, and this is the problem for all of Warhammer is where do you start? There are over 800 novels in the Warhammer 40K library. And when I say novels, I don't mean like, oh, 200 pages. I mean like some of them are like 800 pages long. Like you. You can't read it all. You can't. You'd spend your whole life doing it. So you have to have somebody who's really deep in the lore and you have to pick where you want to start. And most people agree that you got to start at the Horus heresy. You got to start when, you know, with the emperor and the primarchs and all that stuff. But then you go, okay, well there's. There's 18 Primarks, there's the Emperor, who's Henry Cavill gonna be. Because not only are these, these super awesome demigods, but there's also like cool ass characters in general. I mean, honestly, the, the. If I was going to tell you where to start, Tyler, I would give you a book about Caiaphas Kane because you'd like that guy. It would be a cool book for you to read, but you don't read. So.

A (93:41)

Very shameful thing for me to say, but I do not read. But they had a good point. Patreon would be a good place for. To send out the Discord link. Obviously we can create a new chat. We have the gun chat, the fitness chat, the general chat, Patreon. But we send out the Discord link in like a gaming chat. Like a. Yeah. And that way everybody can jump on. And so is it like kind of like a. Would this be planned? Like, would everybody like, would you go, hey guys, on. On Tuesday at 8:30pm Eastern Standard Time, where I'm going on, let's all try to get together. Or is it just like when somebody goes, you can see that that person's on and anybody that's on can go join them. Or is.

B (94:20)

It would be both. It would be both. So what I have, I mean, me and Dylan missed each other a couple of times. I was on, he was off, he was on, I was off. And we finally linked up and played. And the Discord would make it a lot easier. But also it. There's going to be times when it's like, hey, you know what? And we can do it this way. And I hate to make it sound like this, but let's just be real here. If we can raise a certain amount of money, we'll get Mike to play Space Marine 2 for an hour. You know what I mean?

A (94:56)

Michael, do it, man. He's cynical, but he'll do it if it's for. If it's for. If people wanted Mike to play, Mike would do it. I. I was just saying, you know, like, you know, obviously you can't not talk about money. And you know, if there's money to be made, then, you know, people, people can make money off it. That would be awesome. You know, really all Counterculture would want is people repping the name and the brand.

B (95:22)

And I, I think that's really more important to me right now than anything else. But I'm, you know, I'm. I'm an employee. You know what I mean? Like, to me, like, this is a way that we can get the brand recognition out there into a platform that maybe we wouldn't reach just being. Doing what we're doing. Because there are some people who are gaming who are not talking about the. That we're talking about. They hear about it and. But they don't, they don't care. Right. So there's a way to cross germinate all of us where one feeds the other. And that'll work.

A (96:02)

Yeah.

B (96:02)

Yes, it is.

A (96:03)

There it is. That's the day, the word of the day, Germany germinate.

B (96:09)

So I, I think that realistically, between Dylan and, you know, all like Ian and, and everybody else and Clint, like, oh, hold on, I got it. So the OGs, they're the mods. That's how you know they're the OGs.

A (96:32)

Okay, so you can have unlimited mods. You don't have to have like two, I think.

B (96:35)

So I think we can have unlimited.

A (96:38)

Mod means moderator which helps run. They can determine when the stream is created or when it in.

B (96:45)

In discord. A moderator is not just about streams and things like that. It's also about community, driving to community, maintaining the community that we want. It's almost like a gatekeeper. Like if people come in and they're throwing in spam, they can be kicked out and blocked.

A (97:03)

Okay. Oh, so they can make decisions. Okay, yeah. Whoever wants to be a mod in here now this is like we talked about, I think it was last week, like right now, in the moment today is when the OGs really are. I want like these guys. That's when we talked about making the next tier up. Because, yeah, you know, we want to separate people in a. So anybody in here now that wants to be a mod, you know, just kind of like reach out to us. Like I said, I've got Ian and Dylan and, and anybody else that would like to be a mod or if you just want to be like, yo, send me the link. I'll play when everybody plays. I don't need to be a mod too. That's, that's totally fine. Like I said, the, the, the participation and the viewing will just be enough.

B (97:47)

Yeah, I mean the, the Council of G's. You know what I mean?

A (97:51)

Like, let it be known the council meeting about discord.

B (97:58)

I, I like the Council of GS. I mean, like, I, I like. If you, if you get that, that'll be a shirt. The Council of Cheese I'm working on.

A (98:07)

Obviously, like every counterculture thing is a little bit different. Like the, the Threads logo, the CC Inc. Is different than the media company, which is. There's actually like strategy. But like, so counterculture Ink Threads, if you guys didn't know, this is looking at Jimmy's head. You can see it. It's C.C.in right? That's how it's on paper. That's how the LLC is. Counterculture Inc. Media is CC inc dot Right. So you can tell them apart legally. Different. Totally different. They all, it all helps each other. And so for right now, Counterculture Inc. Sports really is just a. It's old English. It's CC Sports underneath. And we're looking to make a logo for CC Gaming, which Gaming for now will fall under the media company like Sports does until it's, until it's so big that it has to be its own entity, which I don't foresee happening anytime soon. And especially if there's no income. It's. If it's just about kids Community, then there's really no need to little business lessons for everybody out there.

B (99:15)

I mean, it's Community for now. Right. One day we may wake up and go, you know, hey, this is. There, there. There's actually some lucrative stuff here and you know, opportunities that we just didn't see. And you know, my, my thought process is always that one day you're going to be the spider in the middle of this web of things and, and everything sort of flows to you, but not everything gets to you like, because it doesn't need to.

A (99:49)

Right.

B (99:50)

Because you already have somebody way downstream who's already taken care of it.

A (99:54)

Yeah. Just people that are passionate about certain things, you know, like, like I, like I said, I wouldn't be able to do this even if I, even if I was like bored and had time. I just wouldn't know the know how. I don't know the. I Don't have any. I don't have skin in the game.

B (100:08)

There you go.

A (100:09)

Be like, opening up something for firefighters. I. I couldn't do it. I don't have skin in the game. I don't know anything about it. We would have to have a firefighter that would be, like, leading the charge or like, a. Specifically for them. Well, I know. I'm saying, like, I'm trying to think of things that are, like, less broad and more specific, you know?

B (100:27)

Yeah. It's funny because I was actually talking to my buddy Jim about. He's like, man, you know, he's from Philly, too. He's actually not far from Nick, and he's.

A (100:40)

Joe's on top of it, bro. He's like, you can go ahead and make the server and then figure out the rank structures and permissions as it develops.

B (100:46)

Yeah, I mean, I. I'm. I'm good with that. I can. I can start that. I can probably do that this afternoon.

A (100:53)

It's an extra for sponsors if they want to pay. That is a great point, because sponsors are always looking for. You know, most of them have two shows a week. The bigger ones have. They get five days a week. But most of our sponsors have two designated times a week. And that would just, like you said, be another opportunity to be able to pay, you know, a lot.

B (101:16)

A lot.

A (101:17)

I'm telling you guys right now, everybody that works for Counterculture or Anti Hero, which falls under counterculture, essentially, is in the network, is egregiously underpaid. Everybody, if they get paid, period. We don't pay Jimmy enough. We don't pay Canine enough. We don't pay Tessa enough. Mike doesn't get enough for, you know what he needs. I don't get enough. Nobody gets enough money. And that's. That's just the inner core counterculture people that, you know, Lewis doesn't get paid enough, you know, even though he's not here right now, paid for two days a week. So it's, you know, that. That would. That would help being able to pay some people and put some more bones in their wallet, you know?

B (102:02)

And I mean, again, the. The. The guiding star to all of this has to be. And we're talking to the discord so that they understand this. The guiding star always has to be talent. The people that are in front of the camera need to be focusing on what's in front of the camera. Anything that takes away from what's in front of the camera is. Is ram space. It's. It's. It's wasted Space it wasted time because that's really where they need to be. So there has to be a, a backside behind the camera that is doing this stuff so that it can get accomplished. That said, there are some things like this that requires some of us, like Tessa and you know, Tyler and myself and Mike to. And, and Heather too, by the way, to get, do some of the front end and so that you guys can kind of take it from the back end. If I'm. That sounded terrible. Don't clip that.

A (103:03)

Maybe he's gonna continue. So it makes. Yeah, no, I, I totally agree. It's. This is a really good idea. You know, the other thing. Thing would be like, do we. Is it going to have its own Instagram and if so, who's going to run it? Instagram is obviously any social media platform. You have to continually post on it or you will fall off everybody's algorithm. So like if you have an Instagram and you don't post for like two weeks, right. When you go post, it's not going to be thrown in front of as many people. If you're posting stories all day and at least post one post a day, it'll grow because it'll put it out in front of people. So, you know, would we have our own Instagram?

B (103:45)

I think, I think no. And, and I'll tell you why. Because at least not for the, not for the, the start. Not until content starts getting put in.

A (103:55)

Yeah, right.

B (103:57)

It. I'm not going to make an Instagram, you know, if there's not. That makes no sense. Right. But what we can do, and I've seen a lot of other YouTube channels do this, that want to do what we're doing, which is create community, is they make the discord for community.

A (104:14)

Right.

B (104:16)

And then it grows and becomes something else. So at this case, I don't think we need an Instagram yet, not until we have it. And I don't think that the discord is, is really just about gaming. Ostensibly it is mostly for, for gaming, but it's more about community and gaming. If you know, it's kind of hard to define. Sort of like porn. You know it when you see it. You've never heard that? No, it was a, it was a famous. Yeah, there was a famous judge that, you know, he was, he was doing a ruling on whether or not pictures that were sent from teenagers were considered child pornography. So like 15 year old girl takes a picture of herself, sends it to her boyfriend. Did her boyfriend, who's 17, take possession of child pornography? Well, the answer Is no.

A (105:16)

Right.

B (105:16)

And the judge was like, I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.

A (105:23)

I would just start as a group of people that want to game together and see what develops from there. That's a great point. So do we start with discord? Discord seems to be. And I'm. But I know nothing about any of this. I'm learning in real time. Discord seems to be the place where this would all have to start.

B (105:37)

It would.

A (105:38)

All right, so you need. I'm assuming you just need an email to start a discord, Correct?

B (105:43)

Yes. And. And that's. That is the one reason why I haven't done anything yet is because I. I want to be able to access the discord, but I don't want it because you. You and I had that conversation. You said, don't start anything that I don't have access to.

A (105:59)

No, no, no, no, no. I just said don't start anything with, like, Jimmy privately, like, not owning, but Jimmy's like, email or Jimmy's phone number. I was like, we. I want this to be done through counterculture anti arrow. And I don't. I listen, dude, I could have access. I'm not gonna. I'm never gonna get on it. I don't even know how. I don't have a reason to. So it's not me having access. It's the branding, you know, I want, like, that's the biggest thing.

B (106:26)

But in. In any job, right, in any place that you would go. If I worked for USA bank, right, And I started a new thing for USA bank, it would not. It would not come from my private email. It would have to be an email that was specifically for the company, you know, through the company with the. My superiors having access to. That's just the right professional way to do it. And, you know, we had that conversation. So I went, okay, now that I have a little bit more clarity, I can go, okay, I have. We have the Council of GS. Whether that's gangsters or goons, that's up to you guys. But The Council of GS, we have them. I can go ahead and create the. The email for it. I can do it as soon as I get done. Create the discord. And I'll just use the. The Counterculture Inc. Logo for right now until we get, you know, something else. Unless you want to use the skeleton. Do you want it to be counterculture? Do you want it to be antihero?

A (107:26)

No, it's always. It's going to be counterculture.

B (107:28)

Okay. But Then underneath that, we can have categories of anti hero, Copville, Shadow cast, unfiltered. Yeah, we can have all of that so that, you know, Heather can post stuff and you can post stuff, Mike can post stuff. And. And it doesn't have to be gaming. It could just be stuff. You know, it's another place to put things.

A (107:54)

Why do we need that shelf? It's just another place to put things.

B (107:57)

Yeah, but in this case, it's like, hey, this is another shelf that passers by, Mike walk past.

A (108:03)

Right.

B (108:04)

And then we need to figure out through the council of G's and me and Tessa, you know, they're not. Everybody should be able to join. Right. We need to. They need to go through a little bit of a vetting process. Otherwise you have riff raff come in there and fill it up real quick.

A (108:21)

Yeah.

B (108:22)

So there's a lot kind of like a.

A (108:24)

Like a. Joining a private Facebook group. You just answer a couple questions and that sends it to you. And you can just kind of read through and be like, I know this person. You know, I watched. I watched your live. I really want. I heard you guys talking about it. I really want to join. You know.

B (108:38)

Exactly. And, and that's where the mods would come in, is that it doesn't always have to go to Jimmy to answer. It could be answered by Dylan. It could be answered by Clint. It could be answered by Joe. It could be answered by Cold. It could be, you know, one of them, they. They'll all get the message and one of them will be like, oh, yeah, done, he's in. Especially as long.

A (108:56)

As long as people with counter cc, gang or counterculture tags are just people up online. I don't care. Yeah.

B (109:04)

You can't be out there, man. You gotta. You. We gotta. It pays.

A (109:08)

I want. I want a bunch of Leroy Jenkins.

B (109:11)

Yeah. And, and, and the funnier but the better. So I, I've already got one video, one gaming video that I, I sent to Tyler and, and he was like, it's not the right time. And I think now is the right time.

A (109:28)

Joe says, you say that you won't get on Tyler, but you're going to come chill with us. Love it. And then spend every night chilling with the boys will make you neglectful. Husband, father. No, I, I will. I will play. Like my, my. All my sons play video games. All of them. And I've gotten to the point where now when I go play with them, they're better than me. And I'm not even saying like, oh, my sons are better than Me like they are legitimately better than me in every game we play. I don't understand a lot of the things that are happening now. When my son boots up Call of Duty and he's like ch, like scrolling through all the screens and like packages and bonuses and xv and I'm like, dude, whatever happened? And just like you killed 50 people, now you got the silencer. You killed another 50 people, now you got the thing. And he's decorating his gun and everybody's running around in different outfits like Chucky. And I'm like, what the is going on, dude? Like that's right. That's why I miss the old school stuff. But I will definitely play, you know, seven year old son, a 13 year old son and a 20 year old son. So they.

B (110:29)

Space Marine Two. You don't have, you can get that in depth with certain things. Although it's a little bit different. It's really more about how many people did you kill? You know, how many, you know, how many kills did you get with this gun before you can get to the next gun? It's pretty linear, it's pretty easy.

A (110:47)

Space Marine too. All right, so I, you know what? I, I, I'm going to finally take you up on it. Me, I gotta talk to the wife. But maybe we can purchase Space Marine too and we can, I can plug it in. I have an Xbox downstairs in our bedroom that I never play. My son has one upstairs in his. So that way we have two accounts so we can play online together. But maybe we can get something rolling. Well, I just won't allow my time to have Discord.

B (111:12)

Yeah, I don't, I don't blame you. Discord is definitely something that, you know, I wouldn't, I, I get the two.

A (111:20)

Oldest kids, he's only 13.

B (111:23)

The two oldest kids have, I would give them access to Discord, but it would be one of those things where like you're only gonna go to this Discord. Like, you know, I would, I would be very, very limiting. Like you're not just gonna join whatever Discord group you want. The other problem is, is that, you know, Discord, you can make friends on Discord that are, you know, not, you're not in the same, in any of the same groups. So you could meet somebody at school and be like, oh yeah, you're on Discord. I'm on Discord. Okay. Boom. And now they're having conversations.

A (111:55)

Yeah, so do you. So. Right. My youngest plays Fortnite and he's running around and he's building all these Things and running on them as they're being. And I'm like, are you doing that or is that automatically building? That's like, yeah, dude. It's insanity. It's insanity.

B (112:14)

I don't know that we can go into that stuff. I think what we. Again, this is why Tessa needs to come up with hers and, you know, the. The OGs, the. The council of Goons.

A (112:25)

Well. Well, there. I mean, real quick, will there be any live streaming? Are people going to have the ability to live stream their gameplay if they're bored and they want to jump on? And where would that live stream? To YouTube, to Twitch or whatever?

B (112:40)

We can make it that way. But they would have to have permissions so you people could upload stuff, but there would have to be permissions built in. So.

A (112:51)

Because I know Tessa wants to stream. Playing live. Is streaming playing live something that you would want to do if you had the opportunity? Not obligated to, not scheduled. But if you were like, yo, I just want to jump on. I want to stream live. If you had that capability and had people able to walk you through it and tell you how to do it, would you do it or no? Is that.

B (113:09)

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Especially if I was playing with the dudes that are in, the guys and gals that are in, it would be like, hey, you know, we're. We're grouping up and we're gonna go play together. Okay, cool. Starship Troopers really lends itself more to, like, big groups because you can have, like, 16, 18 people, you know, all playing together at the same time. Space Marine 2 is 3. That's it. It's three dudes.

A (113:39)

That's it, right?

B (113:40)

Yeah. Three guys.

A (113:43)

Play on Jimmy's team.

B (113:44)

Yeah. So, like, I mean, that would be the thing.

A (113:47)

Two minutes on video before you can play on Jimmy's team.

B (113:52)

You know, But I mean, again, it could be one of those things where it's like, okay, you know, hey, who's coming in? Who's going? And the great thing about it is is that as guys. So, like, when we got all these new people that are just starting to play, they. They need to level up. I do not. Like, I'm. I'm really good at that game, and I'm. I got all the good guns, and, like, I'm. I'm leveled up, so I can go. We can get some of these new people who are just starting out, and it's like, oh, you need to grind. Well, I'm gonna help you grind so that you can get. You can get the cooler Faster. And I'll go with you and we'll talk, you know, while we're. While we're playing. And then you can grind with your homies and it'll be a good time. There was a really. There was a great game that I used to play called Battlestar Galactica Online. I loved that game. Yeah, it was a. It was an online game. And you were like, battlestar Galactica? Yes.

A (114:53)

There's two schools there will be hazing for people that want to play with you.

B (114:58)

They're probably. Probably will be hazing. I mean, you know, you have to send us a picture of you. It. I don't know.

A (115:07)

It's gonna get dark.

B (115:09)

Yeah.

A (115:10)

All right, I gotta go. I have a dentist appointment at 2 and it's like half an hour away and I hate the dentist. Wish me luck. Guys. Thank you so much for being on Patreon. Thank you guys so much for the help, the. The counseling that you guys give on what you guys like, what you guys don't like. This whole gaming thing is going to be possible because of you guys. So keep sending us messages with anything you need. Thanks for the support buying the merch. We will see you tomorrow at 11am Our guest is Nick from Good Cop Bad Cop. He's been an OG with us for a while on the podcast and he's a retired Philly cop, and he pisses a lot of people off. So he's gonna be on. But we will see you guys on tomorrow at 11:00am Eastern Time.

B (115:51)

All right, boys. Later on.

A (116:15)

Jv team for life.