Tyler (3:14)

So. What other guy?

Mike (3:17)

I'll tell the story real quick. You can take it down. It's dog.

Tyler (3:20)

Oh, sorry.

Mike (3:23)

Yeah. So there is he. A guy trademarked Dogs over People, the words, and he has Dogs over people dot com. When I originally started Dogs or People, I tried to buy it. He wouldn't sell it to me. He offered to lease it to me. And I thought, I'm gonna lease the website, lease the name, and then I could build it to some mega whatever, and then you can just go, all right, I'm not renewing the lease. It's all mine now. So I was like, you're nuts. So I went ahead and did it anyway and started Dogs over People. And a reason I switched from Shopify to Squarespace for my website was he actually filed a complaint, and they took all the products down. So I'm kind of on the understanding that you can trademark the company. Like Nike. Nike is trademarked. I can't make a Nike. You can't trademark the words. So I can buy the website. I bought it and you can't. Basically, the bottom line is I can't represent myself as his company. We'll see how it goes.

Tyler (4:25)

Interesting. Do you wake up and just try to find conflict, or does it naturally come.

Mike (4:30)

I. I literally wanted to start a

Tyler (4:33)

website called or is a proper hat for you. I know it's the war within, and I get it, but people don't like me.

Mike (4:40)

I'm a very nice guy.

Tyler (4:43)

So the first thing I want to talk about today, and I should have it pulled up, but I don't. Is the Jimmy Watson Dan Crenshaw thing that I kind of. I made a reel about today because I saw Jimmy either last night or. Or early this morning, most likely last night, made a reel about it. Let me see if there's another one. Yeah, Let's see if I can't. Let's see if this one's it. Hold on. Share screen. Instagram boom.

Jimmy Watson (5:27)

Of780,000 Mighty warriors was permanently banned. But this ain't my first rodeo. I'll never forget being told by my SEAL commander that I was being dishonorably discharged from the team.

Tyler (5:39)

I don't think that's it. I think it might be in the stories.

Jimmy Watson (5:44)

Another Monday in Miami and you still aren't on. So if I was a former SEAL and I became a congressman, and all of a sudden I compromised my entire life and integrity. And I was bought and paid for by Israel now. And I was accused of insider trad. Let's just say, okay. And I had to clear the record because elections coming up and I'm desperate to be reelected, but I probably won't because all this trash out there against me, right? All this truth, but now you got to try to debunk it, right? Here's what I would say. I would say that I never personally did any of these trades. I'm not insider trading. Okay. While having a trust set up and having a family member trade for me. Not the family. Family member. Exactly.

Mike (6:31)

But.

Jimmy Watson (6:31)

But the family member has the account. And then you have your expert traders doing what you tell them based off of your insider trading in the Congress. The American people aren't that stupid, are they? Chris Shaw decides to attack me, basically. Check this out. Basically, I yell at the camera all the time.

Nick (6:56)

Great.

Jimmy Watson (6:56)

Valid point. Okay, I. I get that one. That I don't know about the inner workings of Mexico in the cartel. As if Dan Crenshaw, the most disconnected, bought and paid for by Israel homie out there, knows anything about the cartel in the inner workings. Because keep in mind, I lived in Mexico, Colombia, Nicaragua, San Salvador. Real mercenary work. Your research. He actually told me to do my research.

Mike (7:22)

Anyways.

Jimmy Watson (7:23)

At least I don't yell at little girls, Dan.

Mike (7:27)

Oh, boy.

Jimmy Watson (7:28)

At least I don't sue other seals for telling the truth. By the way, you looked at the comment section on Dan Crenshaw's post, like 100 across the board. This guy's a turd. Zero respect for a SEAL who tries to literally put another seal in prison for life. Scariest thing that John McAfee ever told me was that he could kill me with a.

Tyler (7:53)

That's it. So, that being said, you know, we put out a reel this morning that it didn't catch all that. Because, I mean, I don't. I only have three minutes, and those talk a lot. But, I mean. So he's not wrong about the ability to do insider trading with a family member? I think even.

Mike (8:12)

Actually, I brought that up. Yeah. When Crenshaw was on. I'm like, so you don't do it, but you're telling me that nobody could do it for you. You could just funnel the information to him, to them. So it's nonsense. He's right. Jimmy's right. Like, Dan's desperate. He's desperate for the press. He's desperate to get. I mean, think about it. He went from silent, barely reaching out to us coming on, and now he's begging to go on anything, and he's going at anybody that's got followers.

Tyler (8:43)

Yeah. You think Jimmy took the bait? Or do you think Jimmy doesn't care?

Mike (8:47)

Jimmy's doing what Jimmy. Jimmy don't give a. Jimmy Watson's doing what Jimmy Watson does. He's gonna yell on the camera about something anyway. Just get. Just gives him something else.

Tyler (8:56)

Fingerprint smudges all over his class.

Mike (8:58)

Yeah,

Tyler (9:01)

it's funny, too. This whole. This whole sphere. Right. A lot of people don't understand this is Patreon, so I don't care. This whole entertainment sphere. I have. We. We. We could text both of them right now if we wanted to. It's just more fun and I think more professional to do it this way. I could be like, jimmy, can I call you? And you come on the air and get. And it's just. I said what I said. I said in the real. We'll see if either one collabs. So far, I think Jimmy's still sleeping. And Dan is really slow at responding to Instagram. Like, he'll respond to one of our posts about him, like, a week later. So I don't expect either one of them to collab. But, you know, it's good stuff.

Mike (9:41)

It's. I mean, that's Jimmy's platform. That's what Jimmy does.

Tyler (9:45)

And.

Mike (9:45)

And like I said, Dan reaching out to me is just. He won't talk about Eddie Gallagher still, though he keeps that kind of hush, and he doesn't really go public with any of that. But he's irrelevant. He's going to lose you. I agree. He's going to lose the election. He's in big trouble. And when you're in big trouble and your ship sinking, you'll grab on to anything you can. And he knows Jimmy's going to get loud and get people talking.

Tyler (10:09)

So what do you think Dan Crenshaw does when he's not Congressman Crenshaw anymore?

Mike (10:16)

Write another book.

Tyler (10:17)

Did you write a book?

Mike (10:19)

I don't know. Write a book podcast, Come up with a mission that nobody's heard of yet that he did 10 years ago and talk about it like. Like, you know, Brady's birthday.

Tyler (10:31)

By the way, happy birthday, bro.

Mike (10:32)

Happy birthday, Brady. We. Brady. DM me, man. I'll send you something. I know Tyler probably won't, but I will. But, you know, we talk about this and you joke about running for office and all that. It's like, I. I don't. I don't know. Like, I don't. I wouldn't want that. It's not responsibility. I'd love to have the responsibility, but again, one vote. Even on, like, a county commission, there's five people. You still can be shut down. Getting the information out is most important. And I think he's desperate for attention. He's gonna. I think he's gonna suffer mentally by not being relevant. He'll do something. Podcast.

Tyler (11:11)

No, like a Dan Bongino type thing. Got his name right.

Mike (11:15)

Yeah, something like that. Or like, trying to get on talk shows and, you know, he'll probably be

Tyler (11:20)

appointed at some point to a political office.

Mike (11:23)

He'll probably go to, like, Daytona Speedway at a liquor store and sign our grass before the race. Yeah, something like. Something like that.

Tyler (11:30)

So, I mean, the. The. The thought there would be more reaction to that, those two beefing it up, but I guess really it is what it is, huh?

Mike (11:44)

Yeah. I mean, it's.

Tyler (11:45)

Damn Crenshaw.

Mike (11:47)

It's like, you find out. And I'm not talking about Jimmy Watson when I say this. I'm talking about. Because Jimmy kept going. Jimmy got out contract. He kept going. You got a guy like Dan, it's like, you're almost fine. The other suing you almost are disappointed to find out. It's like when your dad is like, your dad when you're a little kid, you're like, dad's invincible. Dad doesn't cry. Dad doesn't do anything. He's just a monster. He's the man. And that's what you look at when I was younger, like you talked about, I see these guys and I'm like, dude, they're Navy SEALs. Like, they are it. Like they're there, and now you see them here, and it's like, are they really. Other than a week in, like, training and I'm not on. You know, they're training, but other than that and some tough. You know, they went through some tough things, you find out that they're not. They're just dudes, man. Dudes that have egos, dudes that want attention. They're not what I even. They are who. They're not who I thought they were. Yeah, they're not who I thought they were when it comes to being. They're arrogant. Like, not all of them.

Tyler (12:46)

It's like being a tier one athlete, dude. They're. They're at. A lot of them are.

Mike (12:51)

And here's. You're right.

Tyler (12:53)

You're right.

Mike (12:53)

The exceptions are, like, the dudes that take time to sign autographs and actually do things for the right reason. The. The norm is the guys like Tariq Hill and the pieces of that just don't care about anybody but themselves. And they're at the club all night and they're just bad examples. The. The very minor ones are the dudes you see that like, stay engaged with the community, take time to, you know, talk to little kids, sign autograph. Same with your tier one guys. You know, go DM that guy that used to be the co host and see if he responds. Go ahead, do it. See if he's gonna reach out. See if he's gonna collab you on a real.

Tyler (13:28)

Vanessa might.

Mike (13:29)

Vanessa might, but he won't. And. And I. I'm the first one to tell you because I tagged him when we went out of town on all kinds of trying to help his company. Little did I know he was. Did we know he was already playing behind your back and gonna leave when we went to Ohio. But know I tried to help and tag and never even responded to me. So it's. It's upsetting to find out that those guys, a lot of those guys, not all of them, a lot of those guys are nothing more than maybe they made it through some really tough training. But on the other side, they're. Did they really do it because they cared or did they do it because they wanted to be somebody and for themselves?

Tyler (14:07)

I like it. Good take, Zana. So it's true. Well, yesterday on our Monday morning broadcast was supposed to be Nick G's first segment on Anti Hero.

Mike (14:24)

Did he come on? Did I miss him?

Tyler (14:26)

Stupid face down there looking at me, judging me. So taking a stupid head. All right, so Nick for a week was like, dude, I want to help out. Anything I can do to help you, please let me know. I will help out. I'll come on. And I was like, hey, man. I was like, cool. I went to Mike and I was like, hey, dude, Nick want. Really wants to help. What do you think about giving him a weekly segment, you know? And then I. He was like, absolutely. And then I call Nick and Nick's like, yeah, dude, I get it, man. We'll call it like something like what grinds my gears with Nick G. I'm like, boom, perfect. Come on. With 15, 20 minutes worth of something to talk about. Mid show yesterday, supposed to be his first day. 11:20 in the morning, calls out, he can come on Thursday.

Mike (15:12)

How about this?

Tyler (15:13)

I'm like, no, did his store launch.

Mike (15:15)

He was supposed to launch his store yesterday too.

Tyler (15:17)

I don't know. We'll have to ask him. We have Nick G here, but I Want to rest my. I want to. I want to make my piece first. So he goes, oh, man. I'm, like, super tired. I've been shoveling snow all day. And I was like, okay. He's like, but I'll come on if you want. I'm like, well, then he's absolutely gonna have nothing to talk about if he's not prepared and he's not feeling it. So I was like, just come on next Monday then. And he's like, all right, sweet. Thanks. And I was like, man, first day on the job, he cancels. Oh, he does that thing like, wait, what Jimmy does where he's like, I'm so sick right now, but I'll come in if you want. Like, no, Jimmy, don't come in if you. If you're sick, don't come into work. But you want to bring Nick in.

Mike (16:01)

Bring him in.

Tyler (16:02)

Let's see what Nick has to say

Mike (16:03)

if he's doing better today. Oh, that looks about right.

Nick (16:09)

Pay me that job. Wait a second.

Mike (16:13)

Wait a sec. Wait a second. Wait a second.

Nick (16:15)

It's free.

Mike (16:16)

Oh, yeah. So listen, the guy builds a platform on his back porch from three years ago, works his ass off, quits his job. But, you know, we'll just bring you in, man, right up front, first class.

Nick (16:29)

Well, it's not a job. It's not a job.

Mike (16:31)

So it is a job.

Nick (16:32)

A job. I didn't call off sick, and I was absolutely prepared. I was ready to go, dude. I just couldn't breathe, man.

Mike (16:38)

I was all, georgia, no shoveling.

Nick (16:40)

You want me to ruin it? Ruin a surprise? I was gonna talk about paper bags and how they suck. And I was gonna segue into how women cops are even more useless than paper bags. That was my segment, dude. Let's talk about women cops.

Mike (16:53)

How they upset girl in my DM or in my comment section.

Nick (16:57)

Dude, women cops are good for three, Actually, four things. Blow jobs, getting other cops fired, ruining marriages. Right. I don't even remember.

Mike (17:10)

That's three.

Nick (17:10)

That's three.

Tyler (17:11)

Just randomly spout it out when you remember it, Nick. But I will say this in order. In order for you to make money, we got to make money.

Nick (17:20)

I know.

Tyler (17:21)

To make money, we got to put out content that's reliable and good.

Nick (17:25)

Two feet of snow. Two feet.

Tyler (17:26)

And when the talent calls out day one, we don't have any content to put out to make the money, to pay you the money. So that's how it works.

Nick (17:33)

Fair point, Dude. I was prepared to come in, man. I couldn't breathe. I was like, George, Floyd, three hours of shoveling 24 inches of snow. Dude, I'm 47. Plus I was post coma at 12:30. So I came in, figure I have an hour to depress, you know, depressed, relax, maybe take a hot bath, get some air in my lungs. And then you move the goal post. The noon.

Tyler (17:59)

Was it. Was it. Were you really out of breath from shoveling Snow?

Nick (18:02)

Dude, I'm 47. I haven't been to the gym since I was in Cancun.

Mike (18:06)

There's the problem because I came, I drove, did a show, whole show yesterday. Drove straight from Orlando to the gym and did 30 minutes of massive cardio in a hoodie.

Nick (18:16)

And then we're go, go shovel two feet of snow for three hours.

Mike (18:20)

Oh, come on. Come on. Snow doesn't even wait.

Nick (18:23)

It's out of here.

Tyler (18:25)

Dude, he's a northerner. Dude, you're not going to be able to tell him.

Nick (18:31)

I'll bring.

Tyler (18:31)

It's gonna be your excuse in the summertime.

Mike (18:34)

It's too hot out. He wave the. The street payments too. He's not used to that kind of heat. He's used to winter. It'll be. It'll just keep going back and forth.

Nick (18:41)

I don't like.

Tyler (18:43)

I will say this.

Nick (18:44)

I needed a mental health day.

Tyler (18:46)

Nick is right. I had to move the goal post because canine, the other segment, decided to get his haircut again or. Or book a haircut in the middle of it.

Nick (18:58)

So we're talking about haircuts now. We're talking about haircuts.

Tyler (19:01)

We're venting.

Nick (19:03)

I'm venting about haircuts.

Tyler (19:05)

Everybody, everybody on the show. And then they're like, watch shoveling snow.

Nick (19:09)

Haircuts.

Tyler (19:10)

He was still coming.

Nick (19:12)

He came on haircuts.

Mike (19:14)

He came on, he brought us. He brought us content that got us unsubscribed or banned.

Nick (19:23)

Then I, I was all excited for this segment. I text Tyler like, yo, here goes some art. Here goes a video. Here goes all kinds of. I can talk about. Ignored me the whole weekend. I can show you 35 text messages from me to Tyler. I got one LOL out of all of them.

Tyler (19:41)

That's just my go to. I don't actually watch anything.

Nick (19:44)

I know you don't.

Mike (19:45)

He didn't read it. One message. He just put lol.

Nick (19:48)

That was like three days later.

Tyler (19:50)

What were you sending me?

Nick (19:51)

I sent you a segment art. Like, hey, try this one out. I did a little video for it. Sent you whole different clips. You can do this whole paragraph. Then I put it on the.

Tyler (20:01)

I got pictures of Snow from yesterday? Yeah.

Nick (20:06)

Did you get my dick pic?

Tyler (20:08)

No. So Thursday you called you, you texted me. Thursday, 9:35, Friday at 4:22. Can. Oh, I forgot. You wanted to see the picture of Rob and that.

Nick (20:19)

Ignore that one too.

Tyler (20:21)

And then you didn't text me till Sunday night. Am I coming on tomorrow?

Nick (20:24)

Yeah, dude, go check the other text message with Justin. So a bunch of on there.

Tyler (20:29)

It's a group chat. Okay, hold on.

Mike (20:35)

You're responsible for a lot.

Nick (20:36)

I forgave you.

Tyler (20:37)

It's all good.

Mike (20:38)

You're responsible for a lot of things, Tyler.

Tyler (20:41)

You sent Sunday. Sunday. I'm going backwards. So Friday you sent a. A Facebook post with an egg on it. I'm supposed to just stop what I'm doing and watch this post and hope it's good?

Nick (20:56)

You know I'm sending you material? Dude, absolutely.

Tyler (20:59)

I don't need material, Nick. I need you.

Nick (21:02)

I've been watching the show. You need material.

Tyler (21:05)

I need a guy to come on Carjack Steals a Cop Car. Crazy ending. And then you guys talked about the video. And then you sent another video, said, not sure if this would want to use for anything with a 22 pound king salmon. Which I thought, yeah. That's more for open mic, right?

Nick (21:26)

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler (21:27)

Okay.

Nick (21:28)

Still ignore me though.

Tyler (21:29)

What's this artwork you're telling me you

Nick (21:31)

sent me for the segment? I said, yo, do you want to use this for the segment?

Tyler (21:36)

The fish?

Nick (21:37)

No, not the fish. Keep going. There's more in there. I'm sure people don't want to hear every play by play text message. Listen, I was wrong.

Tyler (21:44)

I found. I found it. My phone. Sorry, I don't know. I. I don't know if you can see it. My phone, right here. It didn't download it, so.

Nick (21:52)

Sorry, man.

Tyler (21:53)

I got it. Download?

Nick (21:54)

Yeah. You see my name? Can you see my name under my picture?

Mike (22:00)

No.

Tyler (22:01)

No. What happened to it? I don't know.

Nick (22:03)

Where's it at? Because that was my cash app.

Tyler (22:05)

So if you want me bad, my bad. I got comments going. People saying you need to buy a snowblower. Nick was making that phone. Nick is a dirty cop. Summer is calling from her snatch phone. Liz is. Yeah. You know you're busy with your new girlfriend, Nick. Don't lie to make friends, Tyler. Talking about appointments. That rich. A dentist appointment. I didn't know you had to be rich to have a dentist appointment.

Nick (22:40)

No, no. Meaning, like, that's funny. That's ironic. That's rich.

Tyler (22:44)

Oh, okay.

Mike (22:46)

Break it down for a man.

Nick (22:47)

I know, dude,

Tyler (22:51)

that's your cash app.

Nick (22:52)

That's my cash app. You want me to show up, you send me a little gift.

Tyler (22:56)

Why do we all get all the guys that beg for donations to live?

Nick (22:58)

I don't want any donations. Nobody sent me money.

Mike (23:02)

Donations mean. Yeah, he just wants money.

Nick (23:05)

Dude, I got to put money on Summer's books.

Tyler (23:07)

Dude, it's not a donation. Also not a charity. And don't pay me. I just.

Mike (23:11)

So I can hire the kid next door to shovel the snow next time

Tyler (23:15)

he wants to be able to pay a kid. Nick, send me the artwork because it's not downloading on my phone. That's why I didn't say.

Nick (23:20)

All right, no problem.

Tyler (23:22)

Send it to me right now. I want to play it on the show.

Mike (23:26)

It's on his phone.

Tyler (23:27)

Oh, my bad. He doesn't have a computer like a normal person.

Mike (23:32)

My dogs are getting groomed right now.

Nick (23:34)

What kind of dog you have?

Tyler (23:36)

That's rich right there. You got a dog groomer coming to your house? How often do they come?

Mike (23:41)

Well, she was. She was our groomer at Petco, and she left, so she's. It's every six weeks, so she. We kept her on.

Tyler (23:48)

She did the old. Behind the.

Mike (23:50)

You know, they were nasty. You know any corporate. Any corporate job. No, they're nasty to her. They treat her like. It's like any other business.

Tyler (23:56)

She's not technically allowed to steal clients.

Nick (23:59)

What kind of dog. Yeah, yeah. You just got her in trouble, bro.

Mike (24:01)

No, she didn't steal anybody. Two doodles,

Tyler (24:07)

Mike. Would you ever. Would you ever. Would you ever have a monkey? Yeah, I think I would, too, but like a little monkey.

Mike (24:16)

There's like, the squirrel monkeys. The squirrel monkeys.

Nick (24:22)

My mom had one before I was born. My mom had a bump before I was everywhere.

Mike (24:29)

Yeah.

Tyler (24:34)

All right, all right, all right, all right.

Mike (24:36)

Hold on.

Tyler (24:37)

This might be pretty good. Did you make it, Nick, or did somebody make it for you?

Nick (24:40)

I made it.

Mike (24:42)

Got the act in it.

Nick (24:44)

No, I got something in my eye. Did you see how I look? Terrible today, Price?

Mike (24:50)

No.

Nick (24:51)

Could be surprised I didn't have a heart attack, man. I was breathing like George.

Tyler (24:54)

Floyd, is your snow shoveled? Is that. That's not gonna be. We gotta. We gotta mark off the excuses for Monday, so. No, no more snow snows on. Unless it snows Sunday night.

Nick (25:05)

Never. Good, man. I actually got place to do something Friday, and I changed it so I wouldn't miss open mic, so I can't do it.

Tyler (25:16)

Thank you, Nick. I love. I give him a show once a week with 20 live viewers per show. And I gotta thank him for showing up.

Nick (25:28)

I appreciate everything you've done for me, dude. This way. I got my counterculture hat on.

Tyler (25:33)

All right. I almost got it. Almost.

Nick (25:35)

I comment on all your posts to help the engagement.

Tyler (25:37)

You do. Can't take that away from you. Do share your commented on Rob O' Neal's post. This straight up comment on Rob O' Neill's post about the Olympics and LeBron James, and he's like, I'm sure you shot the gold winning puck into the net, too.

Nick (25:54)

I said, you're telling everyone you shot the winning goal into the net.

Tyler (25:59)

All right, here it is. This is Nick's art for his segment

Jimmy Watson (26:02)

into what really chaps my ass and grinds my gears. Stay tuned to what really sets me off.

Nick (26:07)

That's great. You showed half of it.

Mike (26:10)

Now we're going to get into what

Jimmy Watson (26:12)

really chaps my ass and grinds my gears. Stay tuned to what really sets me off. Now we're gonna get into what really chaps my ass and grinds my gears. Stay tuned to what really sets me off.

Tyler (26:23)

Okay.

Mike (26:24)

What the is this? What the is this?

Nick (26:29)

Come on, dude. That's awesome.

Mike (26:31)

Hold on, hold on, hold on. How. How'd you make that? AI, he didn't make it.

Tyler (26:38)

He did. Don't even know how to use a text message.

Nick (26:41)

Grok, dude. Grok.

Tyler (26:46)

Is that supposed to look like you?

Nick (26:49)

Yeah, that's what I look like.

Jimmy Watson (26:53)

Get into what really chaps my ass and grinds my gears.

Mike (26:57)

Stay tuned to what?

Jimmy Watson (26:57)

Really?

Mike (26:58)

Way too big. Look at the background rock.

Tyler (27:02)

You look muscular.

Mike (27:03)

There's military medals on the wall. That's throwing valor back there.

Nick (27:07)

There's no military medals, dude.

Mike (27:09)

Yeah, that was a blue heart.

Jimmy Watson (27:10)

Really chaps my ass and grinds my gear. Stay tuned to what really sets me off.

Mike (27:15)

Got the thin blue line flag. Look at that.

Nick (27:17)

The only thing in military up there is my dad's flag.

Mike (27:20)

Hold on. I gotta look in the background. We gotta.

Tyler (27:22)

Oh, is that. Is that based off a real background or you just tell it? But yeah.

Nick (27:25)

No, that was my house. It's. That's from the picture. So that was me in the picture when I was on Fox News. They're all my awards in the background. And my dad's picture up there, My dad's flag.

Tyler (27:35)

Did Grock turn your dad into a Simpsons character?

Nick (27:39)

Yeah, he turned everyone. I mean, he really. My dad up. If you. If you zoom in on that picture up there, put, like, a band aid over his eye.

Mike (27:45)

Yeah, yeah. He looks like. He's looks like he likes pennies.

Nick (27:53)

He looks Turkish all right, well, we

Tyler (27:56)

would be irresponsible not to talk about.

Nick (28:01)

Great.

Tyler (28:03)

Tone alert. I want to know. I want to know what the deal is with toner. I thought it was all squashed, and then all of a sudden, Mike's feuding with him again. Like, is it. Let me ask this. Let me preface. This is tonal. Or taking what you're doing as like, a jab at them when you say the job is dead and you're trying to rekindle that. And you're actually defending the guys with the black tape on their eyes and jump out, boys. You're actually defending him. Because I saw your clip of your new page where you talked about it. And are they just taking what you're saying against them? And what is the deal?

Mike (28:44)

Yes, basically, the Crenshaw Jimmy thing. I made. The job is dead. I made the job as dead. And, you know, it's kind of like. So let's go all the way back when I started saying goon the first go around, everybody got upset that I'm calling people street goons and goons bad. It means derogatory. You're going to get arrested. You're going to get guys indicted. I went at it with all those big mean pages about the goon term. And then I came up with a definition. I put Jerry worms in. I said, this is my definition. A proactive street cop. I went through the whole thing when I said the job is dead. You guys see what I'm talking about? The Tick Tock videos, the Philadelphia sheriff, the Atlanta. Like, we're hiring 30 females just to have a number. The job is dead. Go ahead.

Nick (29:29)

Giant rejection. Yeah, yeah. I got something in my eye. Thanks, Clint. It's killing me. Anyway, so again, female cops are worthless. That started killing the job in the 90s. The Badge Bunny that used to blow you in the cop car or go to the cop bar, the bang. Yet in the late 80s, early 90s, started becoming cops. They don't do a thing. But you're right, the job's dead. Look at all the clips all over the Internet. Look what just happened up in New York City. Cops getting snowballs thrown at them. They're not doing a thing. I bet. How many videos have you seen? I'm gonna tell you. Step out of the car. I'm not going to tell you again. Step out of the car. Five minutes later, you need to step out of car. You're going to get locked up. Step out of car. This is. It's dead, dude. These guys are afraid to do the job. I understand why some of them are. I get it. But if you're not going to do the job, you're putting yourself in danger, you're putting your partner in danger. You put this, the public at danger, the job is dead. These cops aren't doing the job the way they should do it. So New York City should have a fucking assist should have been dropped. There should be 500 cops showing up there busting heads and locking all those up. And when you tell someone, get the out of the car. If they don't do it by the third time, you rip them the out and lock them up. That's why the job's dead. So you're not wrong, Mike.

Tyler (30:41)

I agree.

Mike (30:41)

And, and so they latched on to. And I think Tyler actually started all this. Honestly, he did with. He's the one that posted the first thing on Anti Hero that they responded to. And then I called.

Tyler (30:52)

You were already fighting with him on your.

Mike (30:54)

A little bit. A little bit.

Tyler (30:55)

A little bit. Mikey.

Mike (30:56)

No, no, they were, they were. No, they were. They. I'll go back to that. They were like, well, you guys posted it on Antihero and we responded. That was their answer. So that was on my. You posted something and it took a little jab. Anyway, I don't care. The, the, the thing is, is this. Nicely trying to be a better man.

Tyler (31:17)

Mike. This is what this is for. This is Patreon.

Mike (31:20)

We can't have a boring show where we're like, it's gonna go on. Okay, so here's the thing. They, if you want my honest opinion, they latched on to whatever they latched on to. The job is dead and found the job is alive. They started posting those pictures with the eyes and I'm all about those guys. They saw a bigger page and then attacked me. Then they accused me. Here's where it gets nasty, okay? They called everybody that follows Copville a cult following. I'm like, yeah, whatever bro. And that's when I said, oh, so like Jack and Jerry. And then it was don't you use Jack like that. Well, just called everybody following me a cult. Then yesterday it was, I'm. I, I hate cops more than anybody. That was part of the back and forth. Was I a cops more than any because I started. They're using street dogs now. So I've been posting pictures and saying, look at these street dogs and it's people making tick tocks and these chicks. So they're very narrow minded and I think they're very square dudes. They're not outside the box type dudes. They're very black and white. Very black and white. Mediocre average dudes is my opinion. Them. So they took it so personal that now I'm attacking the street dogs. And I'm like. And I sent you the screenshots. I said, no, you guys is a street dog. Whatever they want to call it, I'm cool with it. Street gun Goon goblin. Jump out boy. Call it what you will. I'm not attacking what they're calling.

Nick (32:33)

I don't even know what the. Any of that means.

Mike (32:35)

It's. They're calling them like a. Like a gang name. Like, they're the gang. They're going out and getting people.

Nick (32:40)

The cops are.

Mike (32:41)

Yes. And I. I love that stuff. I love cops. People up.

Nick (32:45)

There you go. The jobs

Mike (32:49)

they attached on to it as if.

Nick (32:51)

Jump out boys.

Mike (32:52)

That's what I'm talking about. Like, and I'm. I'm like, like, look, guys. And I made the video. And I actually tagged him in the video after I made it. The job is dead. Is that we're allowing all this to happen around us and we're not speaking up. And those guys won't speak up at every live event. They wouldn't talk about female cops in any way, shape or form. They were square. They wouldn't say anything negative or outside the character of the job because they're still working. They can't say what's on their mind. And I don't really think it's on their mind. I think in their little minute, minimal brain world, they are the superstars. And I applaud good police work. But you can't tell me by looking outside your little box that what is happening, like, everything Nick just listed off that it's killing this job. So that is my version of. When I say the job is dead. Administrators. Tick tock. Nonsense. Recruiting black females in Philadelphia. Sheriff can't even speak English. Is up there like. And that's your same profession. I don't care what you say. You share the job with those people. And if you're not willing to speak out again about them, then you're a. And that's what I look at them as they are in their little box. They post their little videos and their little pictures of the dope.

Tyler (34:01)

Cool.

Mike (34:02)

What about everything else going on around you? You're not going to talk about all the. And I had people from within their agency reach out to me and say the same dumb that I'm talking about is happening right there. They're dropping cases. They're not prosecuting cases but they're not going to say that. They're not going to talk about it. And it's just play the victim. So that's. That's what they did. They played the victim and they got my attention and here.

Tyler (34:24)

But what. What resurfaced this like two days ago. What happened? What was the. Who. Who. Who's to blame for the. The. It was calm and quelled and they were like hey, we got nothing against Cotville. And you're like all right, cool.

Mike (34:37)

They never said we'd have nothing against that. Never. That never ended.

Tyler (34:40)

They said it to me multiple times.

Mike (34:42)

They. That never ended. What happened yesterday. Or they started using the street dolls and they're still tagging everything. The job is not dead. And they're saying these guys that are saying the job is not. Is dead. They're that there's only one guy saying it. So it's like saying oh, these guys. There's one guy. So every post now has a shot at the guy saying the job is dead, which is me. Well, I found that we all know Kaylee. Kaylee the fired three time cop that's fired. She's got pictures of her shooting where she's leaned back with a rifle and she's posing. Well, who likes her post? Ton alert. So I found it interesting that you guys claim to be road dogs, street dogs and all this and you're liking some porn star esque.

Nick (35:28)

Wait, is that the one that got the train right on her?

Mike (35:30)

No, no, she's the one she got fired from up here. She looks like she acts like a porn star. She's a decorated. All she does is dress up and take pictures. She's been fired twice. She can't get a job anywhere. She's on a reality show. All this nonsense. She's a influencer now and real cops, Mike.

Nick (35:47)

That's why.

Mike (35:48)

Yeah, yeah, but they like her posts. So I simply just posted it and, and I put the eyeballs next to tone alert like in their post and I'm like this is. The job is not dead.

Tyler (35:57)

This, this girl. You share it to your stories?

Mike (35:59)

Yeah, it's on my story.

Tyler (36:01)

So I've never heard of any you that did it.

Mike (36:04)

Yeah, every. Look at every single picture of theirs. The job is not dead. There's one guy that said that every post on these two little.

Tyler (36:12)

You're the only guy in the world that says the job is dead.

Mike (36:15)

Name somebody else that started saying it and they started posting it. This all started when I said it and they posted it Go back in their time, another three scrolls before I ever said, the job is dead. You're not going to see job is dead anymore. Anymore.

Tyler (36:25)

No, they. They scrub pretty much everything, dude. This is their whole Instagram.

Nick (36:29)

So where's that? Where are they Cops at Vegas?

Mike (36:32)

I'm not gonna say.

Nick (36:33)

Well, okay, all right, well.

Mike (36:37)

But they started the job is dead as a, As a reaction to me,

Tyler (36:42)

and I clap back because here, I mean, like. All right, all right. So first off, these guys, how long they've been cops, Mike? Five years?

Mike (36:51)

Something like, I don't know. I don't know. A couple years.

Tyler (36:55)

Nick, they're those guys that are so motivated, and they haven't been by the government, even in the military. You see those kids? Why is this guy so grumpy? This shit's dope, man. And it's like, bro. And you want to be supportive of that. You want. You're like, dude, I love where your head's at, but stop insulting everyone before you, because you are one day going to step over that line and go. And then turn around and look at all those kids on the other side of that line. And I feel like that's where they are. I mean, like, I, I. Dude, how do you Wildlife law? Like, dude, I'm gonna read you, though.

Mike (37:35)

You guys always think I'm an. I'm not gonna post it, but I want to read you. I want to read you some stuff

Nick (37:39)

calling yourself street dogs is gay.

Mike (37:41)

I want to read you. So I, I posted them in my story. You can go click on if you want. Like in that girl's picture. She's a. Right.

Tyler (37:49)

Let me go to it.

Nick (37:50)

Did they bark at each other?

Mike (37:53)

Like, what's up, street dog evening walk with the dogs? You can please skip that. I don't care. So I say the job. Look at them liking this girl's picture. You claim to be any type of street dog or whatever. Like you're liking the street, bro.

Nick (38:15)

Oh, my God. All right, you guys got it.

Mike (38:22)

If you see a little speaker up there in the top, next to the pause button, there's a speaker.

Nick (38:26)

Dude, I tell you what. Technology I think I know.

Tyler (38:31)

I was clicking that.

Mike (38:32)

Oh, I was clicking the.

Tyler (38:33)

Where you screenshot.

Mike (38:34)

So, So I wrote, I wrote that their response was, street dog equal bad, goon equal good. And here was my response. I said, that's what you latched on to. Goons, dogs, goblins, boys, all good. Liking a porn star type chick's pictures who has been fired as super gay. And then this is where. This is where I get like these guys are like depict on kids. These are the ones. Well you keep using it so we need to know what is and isn't acceptable. Why are you asking? You're grown ups, don't ask me. I don't give a what is acceptable in your world. Just stop with me. And I said I don't give a what you use. You guys latched on to something I said and ran with it. Guns and dope don't go with some porn star. You guys sweat so you do whatever makes you feel good. Why don't you post her that on the job is not dead. Oh, my bad. We'll consult you before liking post like what the beta cuck goddamn is that? Like I I just laughed at it. And then they said because she's a shitty cop. Well then why are you liking her stuff if she's a shitty cop? There's another guy in her network that likes likes a lot of female cop stuff.

Tyler (39:38)

And do they acknowledge she's a shitty cop?

Mike (39:40)

Correct. But they like her stuff because look at her.

Tyler (39:45)

Right?

Mike (39:46)

You don't have to. And I said, you don't have to consult with me about anything. People send me your posts laughing about them. I know you're off the podcast game. You can do do it online if you want. I don't follow you. And then it was then it went because I'm the they said about this is about me because I'm the definition of no one hates cops more than cops. And I said yep, that's me. And I said like I said, let's go online and talk about it or you're not allowed anymore. We're allowed to do whatever we want. We just like being cops more than podcasting. So we're done with it. But you guys can ride with whatever rumors you're coming up with. And I said, I asked you to talk like grown men.

Tyler (40:23)

Why does he keep saying you guys? What the did I do?

Mike (40:26)

That's what I'm just telling you, dude.

Nick (40:28)

Then I see my association.

Mike (40:30)

You can I said, you can tell me how much I hate cops in my face and then I can show you the thousands of dollars I've donated to dead cops and the seminars I sponsored and donated for other current cops and you can tell them how much I hate cops. And then he said a bunch of grown women on the Internet arguing is kind of gay. That's another reason we quit. I said, chirping he said, that's another

Tyler (40:50)

reason why we quit.

Mike (40:51)

Yes, they quit the podcasting. And I said, having Conversations is always good. Chirping in DMS is gay. And he said, it's the view vibes that is big gay. And I said, views is probably a huge reason why you quit podcasting. I'm sorry.

Tyler (41:11)

That was good, man. You slept on that one.

Mike (41:13)

Yeah. Wait. And then they said. Then they said that was a stretch, but they got the joke. And I'm glad to see that's what I live for now. And I said, I lived. I live for. Yeah, I did my 23 years, plus three years in the military. Thank you for your service. I said, I didn't ask you to thank me for anything. I don't follow you. I don't message you anything else before I go back to hating cops. And then they said, well, you're doing a good job of killing the job. Just like you. I get a lot of stuff of yours sent to me telling me how over and over you are some whatever they said. And I said, and you feel the need to respond to me. And he said, it's embarrassing how proud of it I am. Like, I'm embarrassed.

Tyler (41:54)

I'm proud of something about what they think about you.

Mike (41:58)

I know. Anyway, have a good day. Keep poking at us gay words and I'll stay out of your DMS and feelings. I said the funniest part about this before your vaginas got hurt was my version of the job is dead. Had nothing to do with real cops doing their job. But you guys keep liking that porn star. She's up your alley. And that was where we ended it,

Tyler (42:20)

man. Yeah, they're really latching on to the job's not dead thing.

Mike (42:24)

I would too, if I had a page as long as they did. With barely 4, 000 followers and podcasts with 47 views, I would latch on to anything I could to make myself feel good. Which they don't. Again, what is the point of posting this if you're going to shit on me for podcasting now after 23 years of police and 26 years of service to the country completely, and I go out and do what I do. Your posts, what are they doing? They're self serving. They're bring attention to me. Look at me. No different than me getting on a podcast. You're just posting it. So here's what it is.

Tyler (42:58)

Is that even them?

Mike (43:00)

No, they're posting other people's stuff too. I mean, man, I. I support and you know, at the bottom line, I know Nick thinks it's gay. I like it. You get an outstand. Dom thinks, Dominic thinks it's gay too. The whole goons, goblins. I'm cool. I love talking. I love talking to guys in the hood. I would post this stuff if social media was around when I was making these arrests. Unfortunately, back when I was making these cases, like, look at that, there's a straight shot. Look at how they wrote the job is dead up top meme pages. Who are they talking about? So this is before I posted anything that's gay.

Tyler (43:33)

This is, here's the way I look at it. You're at war. You're on a losing side. Somebody else is like not saying give up but you're going to lose this war unless you re re evaluate your fight. And them saying, look at this guy, we're still in the fight. Like you're gonna lose. You are going to lose. The job is dead. We're not saying that proactive policing is dead, but the job is dead. Look at the job. Every year it gets more restricted. More cops are going to prison, more cops are quitting and leaving. We're hiring this all inclusive panel of turds. And at the end of the day that's, that's your team now. And you're in a downhill battle. You're losing and you want to sit there and when people are not part of it anymore, still trying to give back, still trying to make the pendulum swing. As we all said. They go and turn around and bite you. It's like, all right, listen, listen, listen.

Mike (44:40)

You're right. And them listen. Now you got me fired up. Because if you're so narrow minded that okay, great, you're out making dope arrest around you. You're right, it's sinking like the Titanic. You're too much of a to go, hey, this is up guys. I see. You can't tell me they work at a perfect agency. Nobody does. You're. You're not willing. Just like we said, guys have this job and they're not willing to talk until they're done. They're not man enough to go call out another agency or call out some tick tock cop. They're not. They work. They're admin boys and they're never going to speak up about anything that's important. So to be so narrow minded to go, well, I'm just going to keep doing my little circle of squared pictures and, and jump out boy and street dogs or whatever it is. And I don't care about everything else around me falling apart until it affects them at some point. They get burned, they get in trouble, they get caught up and then It'll be, man, this is up. And they'll be like, yeah, that's what I was trying to tell you. So, I mean, it makes, It's a, It's a good tactic. You, you got 4,000 followers. You attack another page that has a massive following. You go at it. I'm engaging, I'm posting about them. It brings them attention. It's a, It's a good tactic, but stop it. They're never going to say anything negative about a female cop. Matter of fact, at the, at the live event, my wife wanted to turn around and choke both of them because they were trying to get. They were trying to white night for female cops while she's sitting there as a female cop going, no, female cops are all up. And they're like, no, we would never say that, because they can't. They can't say it.

Tyler (46:12)

Yeah, I mean, and they came. I had a meeting with them. The last time I talked to him was a meeting about counterculture. And they were on their way out. They were butthurt about. They're with you. I, I, Justin was with me in the meeting. It was a zoom meeting. And I'm like, dude, guys, I'm like, you gotta stop. Like, everybody's got to stop taking personally. Dude, everybody's got to stop taking personally. Like, this is a network. We need to have debate. Like, Mike never once said, I don't want to work with them. Never once said, I want them off the network. They were gonna quit.

Mike (46:46)

Nope, never.

Tyler (46:47)

And I was like, guys.

Mike (46:48)

And they can still, even if they didn't stop podcasting, I don't have a problem. But when you can't, the one you just posted meme pages, the job is that is a shot at me. And I don't like to talk about myself, but you've been to live events with me. You've been to Otoa, you've been to D.C. you watch me talk to hundreds of cops, give away. Like, I love cops. This is what I do. Yes, I say some controversial, and I bring a lot of stuff to the attention, but I was a road dog or street dog, whatever you want to call it. That's what I did. Yeah, I got screwed. And I'm not over here pouting. Guy gets killed. We're gonna post about it. We're gonna send something to his family. We're gonna help out. I'm gonna sponsor guys to go to BJJ conferences. I'm gonna help out. But to take a complete on me is, is, is childish and cowardly and pussy. That's what it is. And to. To, like I said, post that stuff. So I shot back, yep, meme pages was me. They tried to code it. I flat out posted it. Their little ass, like, of a. Of. Of a chick that has no business being anywhere near law enforcement and whatever. That's.

Tyler (48:00)

That. That's a young man. That's a young man's move, man. That's a JV move to sit there and, like some broad. Yeah, and Mike's right. She started with Orlando pd, Got booted out of FTO because she was a show. Ended up in Saint Cloud or Kissimmee somewhere in Osceola county in Florida. Got booted to sr, Made it through training, but then got booted to SRO and then was getting hit up by. And eventually she left because she wanted to be on a reality show called, like, the Box or some like that. It was like an NBC reality show where they wanted a cop, a lawyer, a doctor. Like, they wanted all these occupations, and then they turn on each other.

Nick (48:41)

It's literally all females.

Mike (48:43)

No, there's everybody. It was everybody.

Tyler (48:45)

Oh, yeah. And they wanted a cop. And so she played a cop, even though she wasn't a cop anymore. And she left her job, according to somebody that knew her or something. Somebody said that she quit her job because they weren't allowing her to do that.

Mike (48:59)

And then she's tried to get on with. She's processing or again, there's now in South Florida, allegedly trying to get back in it again. And then, you know, go. I don't know if you have her page. Like, I don't. She's unblocked. She blocked me a long time ago. But she's got pictures of her shooting that are horrendous. Like, I don't know what human being would post this as any type of law enforcement. I have no idea.

Nick (49:24)

It's on a screenshot shooting at the range.

Mike (49:27)

Wait, you got to see how she's standing. Like, you got to see the. And the fact that this is the argument I got into with some of those sponsors that. Okay, there's a picture she just posted recently of her at the range, and she's late, leaning back.

Tyler (49:41)

No, this isn't her. Never mind. My bad. Oh, wait. No one can see it. I was like, what the. I. I. Do you know how to spell her name? Her handle?

Mike (49:51)

Hold on. I got the picture sent to me, so I gotta go find it because I'm blocked from female cop on Earth. I don't know where the it is

Nick (50:05)

eating their hoagies over there. Tyler.

Tyler (50:08)

So I knew about her. I knew about her reputation. And you want to know a up story is that Brent wanted her on the show so bad. This was back in like when me and Brent first got together in our last studio, Eddie. And I'm like, I know. I knew people would talk about her and stuff. And Brent goes, I got someone coming for the squad cast tonight. I'm like, who? He goes, it's a surprise, I can't tell you. And her ass walks in the door. And I'm like, brent, you dude. The. The dude. The. That dude will do to flirt with a girl. Like he.

Mike (50:45)

There's her name in the comments right there. Where under cop bill XO Kaylee, X O underscore K I L E E

Tyler (50:56)

E.

Mike (51:03)

X o underscore k a I l e e. Might be blocked.

Tyler (51:16)

Yeah, yeah, I'm blocked. All right. She's not popping up. Yeah,

Mike (51:23)

but there's a picture at the range and she's like, first of all, she's holding the gun at the magazine. Well, which rifle you don't hold like this. You hold it out far. And then when she is actually shooting it, she's like laying back shooting it and some bag company or somebody is taking the picture she sponsored. So what I found out was like when I reached out to, when I tried to talk to Front Front line Optics, they have all tick tock cops that they do for their sunglasses. So I reached out, they sent me some sunglasses. They probably saw my content. I was like this dude. What they're doing is based on numbers is they would rather target the clowns. The non. The job is dead type cops that are gonna buy this than to actually have it bought by real dudes. So they just mass market to these morons. So like they never got back to us. They didn't want, they didn't, they don't want that. But they have like there's companies that Kaylee is sponsored by because they'll just, oh, look at this hot chick with a goddamn bag. So I'll buy it.

Nick (52:22)

You know, it's be nice having a box and tits.

Mike (52:24)

That's it. And it's like there's no substance to her. She's. She's not a good cop. She's not anything and. But she's shoots a bag, stands with a bag and holds a rifle. And guys are like, oh God, if I buy this bag, it's like my dick's inside her. So I'll buy it. You know, like, let me.

Tyler (52:41)

I never understood, I never understood the logic between using a female to sell to men. And then I was like, oh, it's because they actually think that like they're gonna sleep with this girl. Like, yeah. Never once in my life have I seen an advertisement that a woman was using it and honestly wasn't actually driven the other way about that product. Like, there was nothing subconscious about me that would see Kaylee holding a cop bag and go, I need that bag. There's nothing. I'm not gonna lie. A big ass fat. I almost said fat. A big ass tattooed SWAT dude. My subconscious might be like, dude, that's a dope ass bag. That's just how advertising works. That's called aesthetically pleasing. But I've never once seen a female that does something like that. It makes me want to buy merch.

Nick (53:27)

So they're shoving it down our throats. Man, look at all the movies we watch. Some five foot one female cop who all the men are afraid of. She's such a badass. She beats the out of some 6 foot 5, 250 pound MMA fighter. You know what I mean? That's just what, what's being marketed right now? Well, every movie has that one female that's so tough. All the men are afraid of her. She can kick everyone's ass. It's just, it's nonsense, dude.

Mike (53:55)

Well, but the, the companies don't care. And that's where it's like Arrest My Vest. That spray, they block me too. Guardian Angel. Guardian Angel Light blocked me because I'm blocking you too. They target like they had a, a, a gay meetup of all these tick tock cops. And then it was sponsored by Arrest My Vest. And it's like that's who they want to market again. What?

Tyler (54:20)

This video. I remember we showed it once, but Guardian.

Mike (54:24)

I look up Arrest My Vest. That's the company you have to go back to that meet up with all those.

Nick (54:28)

Arrest My Vest?

Mike (54:29)

Yeah, it's a spray for your like your vest carrier. But that's what they called it.

Nick (54:37)

The words wrong.

Mike (54:38)

Oh, we're associated because of the, the meta thing. Yeah. Anybody block Cobbville, you're toast, dude. You're toast. Antihero's toast. So. But yeah, so they have a meet up and it's whatever. Sheepdog. Sheepdog earpieces does it. Sheepdog earpieces is every dude stand around guys with their magazines on upside down and all kind of. They just stand there. This is the best earpiece I've ever had. I can hear things so good. And then they market it and it comes up on an ad. Most of those companies do that where they'd rather. Because. Go on, dude. If you want to have a bad day, just go on tick tock for five minutes. Just go on tick tock and scroll. Every now and then I accidentally open it. Somebody sends me a video. Every scroll is a cop. Everyone on my tick tock is a cop. 190 followers 200000 followers 30, 000 followers 10 followers look at me going to the academy. The Haley, the. I always go after Haley Mirabelli. She was on the Internet last night taking a shower. She put the phone up in her shower to advertise hair care products. And she's in the shower with the phone. It's on my story. She's washing her hair on video.

Nick (55:47)

Active cop.

Mike (55:48)

Yes.

Tyler (55:48)

Yes.

Nick (55:49)

I fire her. She was down here right away, dude.

Mike (55:52)

She was a Chicago pd. She moved to Delray pd, got cheated on, moved back right outside of Chicago, worked at a smaller agency. And what she did was, is stockpile old videos in her Florida uniform because they wouldn't let her do it anymore. And now she like replays those old videos up there. But if she sells hair care products and so she's in her shower taking a shower, dumbass. And that's what they want though. They want to market these females because that's what happens. These people get on tick tock and go, oh, oh, she. Look at her, she's really cool. She carries a light. So every 30 by 30, 110 pound female who has no business being in the job goes, I'm gonna buy that light. I'm gonna buy those pink handcuffs. I'm gonna buy those pink scissors. You notice every female cop carries this massive pair of shears in their vest. Like now if you just, just pay attention. So that's what they're doing. And they're smart. I mean, they're smart. They're selling it.

Tyler (56:41)

If anybody doesn't believe me, I found their backup page. Head on over to arrest my vest for updates and more.

Nick (56:51)

I don't understand what that has to do with body spray.

Mike (56:54)

Well, it's nothing.

Tyler (56:55)

They're just, that's their advertising. And, and I, me and Mike have talked about it. It's not bad to do that. But it also can't be your own because once real cops find out that, that to me, when I see that if I arrest my vest, I was like, oh, yeah, that's pretty cool, dude. My vest stinks. Like. And then I see all those influencers, I immediately think that Those owners aren't law enforcement or aren't real cops, at minimum. So it can't be your only marketing strategy. It has to be. Like, if they were like, yo, guys, love what y' all do. We're down for it. We want to sponsor you. Just so you know, we do sponsor all the Tik Tok people. That's just. We've got money for both. Me and Mike talked like we would have no problem with that, but they, they, they only align with Tik Tock cops, and that's what happened.

Mike (57:46)

Frontline Optics. Frontline Optics. I talked to. They sent me three pairs of their glass. I actually like them. I wore them on the same cruise. I wore them. They were good. They. They have a really good deal.

Tyler (57:55)

So they blocked you, too.

Mike (57:57)

They didn't block me, but they just never have responded to anything and never got back to us and don't want to do business with us because we're tainted. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, we're going to be looked at like suckers at that conference with Kenny.

Tyler (58:10)

No.

Mike (58:11)

Maybe you. Me? Yeah. There's a lot of people don't like me, dude.

Nick (58:15)

There's a lot of Big world, man. It's a big world.

Mike (58:17)

Honest. Honesty is tough.

Tyler (58:19)

And,

Mike (58:21)

you know, I get. I get lumped into that. Like, somehow I get lumped into that. I don't. I hate cops or I don't like cops. And if you look at what I post, it's TikTok cops and bullshit. But being honest about the jobs, it gets you to the reputation of I don't like cops.

Tyler (58:39)

Well, my wife's coming in here with her big ass mouth a little bit late. I already told the story about how she ended up on Anti Hero, so.

Nick (58:45)

All right, well, before I leave, you guys, I'll let you know. Yeah, we didn't call ourselves any gay names like street dogs or whatever the else you guys, you just beat the

Mike (58:55)

out of colored people.

Nick (58:57)

But our. Yeah, we earned our nickname. My squad was called the Fun Bunch. We didn't go around calling ourselves a fun Bunch. That's whatever other people called us because we played hard and party hard. We had a lot of fun doing it, but we didn't go around screaming the moniker everywhere and telling everybody we're the Fun Bunch.

Tyler (59:19)

All right, well, Nick, are you gonna

Mike (59:21)

get a hat that said Fun Bunch?

Nick (59:23)

No. No.

Tyler (59:24)

There you go. That's your new hat, Nick. You can wear it when you show up for your second day of work. Hopefully you don't call out on Monday.

Nick (59:32)

I'll be here Friday.

Tyler (59:34)

Well, Friday's not anti air. That's counterculture.

Nick (59:37)

Oh. Oh, so I'm on anti Hero now.

Tyler (59:40)

Yeah, I know. That's that. We're used to that gaslighting, by the way.

Mike (59:44)

We're.

Tyler (59:44)

We're. We're. We're very used to people playing the dumb game and going, oh, I didn't know. But they're.

Mike (59:50)

Can you imagine if they. If. If we got like a time card and clocked in and out and they saw how much work we really do, they'd lose their mind.

Tyler (59:58)

Who?

Mike (59:59)

Anybody. They think we're just show up, get on the camera and go. Go home.

Tyler (60:03)

I. From. I wake up at six in the morning and start. And I don't stop until 11pm when I close my.

Mike (60:07)

I fall asleep with phone in my hand at midnight, trying to keep up with DMs and responding to people. And then I wake up and it's all. It's all over again.

Nick (60:16)

That's probably why Tyler never gets back to me when I text him.

Mike (60:19)

Yeah, he's busy working.

Tyler (60:20)

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I don't. I mean it in group. Well, I'm in a lot of group texts I don't have. I don't even respond to my own family's group text, dude. Like, I. My family. One goes off. It's on silent. I never even respond. My. Not my. Not my real family, but my. My parents and my brother and sister and stuff. I don't know why. If we have a. But it just goes off a lot. But I'm also in like 40 other group texts that I don't. I don't even.

Mike (60:43)

That's the benefit of everybody, Nick.

Tyler (60:44)

That's.

Mike (60:45)

You're gonna be like me, Nick. You'll be good. That people think we're.

Tyler (60:48)

So.

Mike (60:48)

I don't end up in a lot of group chats. It's really. It's a really good bonus. They're like.

Nick (60:53)

I delete them.

Mike (60:54)

Dude, that Copville. We don't want to talk to him, so they. They go elsewhere. And Tyler's a nice guy, so talk to him.

Nick (61:00)

Yeah. I'll leave you one more piece of advice, Tyler.

Mike (61:03)

What?

Nick (61:03)

Your parents are still around. Don't put them on silence because it'll be a day that you won't be able to call them or reach.

Tyler (61:09)

They're not on silent because I don't want to talk to them. They're on silent because the group chat goes.

Nick (61:15)

I know, but just hear what I'm saying.

Mike (61:17)

I guess after all this Info, Nick. Is the job.

Nick (61:20)

Dead right? It's dead dude. Got ass. Cops calling themselves street dogs and putting it online. It's gay, dude. The out of here.

Tyler (61:29)

All right, we're gonna take a quick commercial break. Nick's is leaving us. We'll be right back with some more behind the scenes stuff for Patreon in a little bit. Once I. Fine. Bye, Nick.

Nick (61:41)

All right, see you, dude.

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Tyler (63:15)

Hold on, I'm heating up my coffee. Take me ten more seconds.

Mike (63:19)

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Tyler (63:42)

Oh, spill it. Spill my coffee.

Nick (63:47)

Damn it.

Mike (63:47)

I, I, My dad passed away May of 2011 at 54. Heart problems. So I stress about it. I'll be 50 in May and it scares the out of me that I'm getting close to that age as well. You always think middle age is 50 or where I'm at now. And middle age was 10 years ago. So that's why I try to stay active and do steroids so that I am in physically good shape so I don't die.

Tyler (64:22)

What are you talking about?

Mike (64:23)

They were talking about. Liz was talking about the same thing about her mother passing away. And I said I was talking about how my dad passed away at 54 back in 2011 and I stay active and fit. Just for that reason, I don't die. And I can Go on cruises.

Tyler (64:48)

Put Lewis on the hot seat even though he's not here.

Mike (64:50)

Lewis, Big Louie Lewis.

Tyler (64:53)

Lewis decided to. As we were closing up shop, we're trying to give. Lewis is a youngster. The young kid.

Mike (65:01)

I mean, I was in the army three years when I was Lewis's age, but go ahead.

Tyler (65:06)

He's a youngster. And we decided to. Leave. Mike left yesterday after the show, and I needed to leave to go to an appointment. And I look at Lewis. He's coding and playing games on the computer. He just likes to stay into the studio and do his thing. I'm like, hey, bud, before you leave, I need you to turn off the cameras. And he goes, okay. But he wasn't looking at me. He was like, okay. And he was coding. And then I get in my truck to leave, and he's like, I. As I'm pulling the parking lot, I see him getting out in his scooter, and I'm like, I bet you that didn't turn off the cameras. And he didn't. And they ran all night long, which is not good for these cameras at all to do.

Mike (65:52)

Lewis is in trouble again, huh? Lewis is in trouble again.

Tyler (65:57)

Not really.

Mike (65:58)

So let's talk about that. Like, people don't understand. So behind the scenes, what happens is, with this program, it's a little bit of work. So you have to hit, like, a button and add the website, and then you can't see it when you're doing it. So you're kind of like, off camera and then you're back. So the producer role would be. The ideal producer role would be somebody who's thinking ahead in the conversation. So if I were like, yeah, man, you remember that video, Tyler, where we were, like, in Ohio and we're about. That would be Tyler's cue as a producer to go. And we start digging for that video in Ohio. And I know Mike's going to want to get to that at some point. Yeah, that's kind of what it is. So what. As you see Tyler's computer in front of them, what we're going to start doing is. And I'll bring mine because mine sits right. Mine is right here in front of you guys. My computer is right there. Is. We can kind of, on the fly, start loading things up. Because Lewis is great at switching cameras. Lewis is great technical guy. It's just. It'd be like me sitting around listening to a podcast about Rubik's cues. There'd be like three seconds, and I would be like, yeah, like, I don't care what these guys are talking about. So.

Tyler (67:04)

And when they're talking about a specific Rubik's Cube video that's super viral, you're gonna be like, I don't know what the they're talking about. Yeah, I don't know.

Mike (67:10)

They would be like, where's the video, Mike? Where it should be up. Like, you'd be like, huh. Like the ideal situation would be have a first responder or military type guy as a producer that can. It's not a knuckle dragger and actually work a computer and have the foresight to grab stuff ahead of time or even solicit their own video. Like, oh, I gotta look at this video, guys. I was thinking about this, you guys kind of on the topic. So we don't have that. Love Lewis. Lewis is a great kid to have around. He's funny, he's cool to be around. He's a great kid. It's funny to watch, but that would be.

Tyler (67:49)

I have a feeling that's all going to work itself out because Lewis is in the hunt for a career job where he's, you know, he wants to work 9 to 5 in the tech industry. So, you know, that'll, you know, we'll

Mike (68:03)

be bringing Clint down or somebody to produce.

Tyler (68:05)

Yeah. I mean, which is another thing too, we talked about due to recent events, everybody that comes on board now is going to be signing a entertainment clause. And I was telling Mike earlier, Reagan actually found that back in the day, where if your place of work or an employment is entertainment, you can't cl. Basically reality tv. You can't claim hostile work environment, you can't claim harassment. I mean, obviously there's some things in there you can't like break the law or anything, but outside of like con, if it's content created and used, it's,

Nick (68:47)

it's,

Tyler (68:49)

it's usable because we re. I mean, for a long time we've had our hands tied behind our back with a lot of the things that we've wanted to say or not expose, but show, be transparent about. And we can't because somebody's gonna get their feelings hurt. Someone's gonna get butt hurt. Someone's gonna be like, why would you do that? And it's like, I mean, stop me if I'm going too far.

Mike (69:14)

No good. You're good. I'm gonna. Nick sent me that picture of him from Fox News. I'm gonna send it into the. My studio. No, you're right. It's a, it's a. This is a tough business. This is a tough Business. Because you're right. This is entertainment, and it's making fun of each other. You and I don't get upset when one of us makes fun of the other one. It just doesn't happen. There's no. I don't know. It just doesn't happen. And I don't take anything you say seriously. We have serious conversations, but we kind of understand when they're serious and when they're not. But you and I have a very unique relationship. Almost like. Like two good Zone partners. Like two good guys that work the street together. You don't. You know, you don't go to dinner and you don't go to. You know, you don't hang out 24 hours a day, but you. For that eight hours or 10 hours or 12 hours, whatever you're doing, you know what they're thinking, how they're feeling, how everything's going. That's kind of how you're. And I. You know, you and I's relationship is. So we don't get upset, but when we make fun of each other, it's. It's. That's exactly what it is. And some of it is even staged. There's. You know, some of it is entertainment. There's cues like, all right, bring that up. Do that. Do this. If you're not in that mindset, though, when things in your life aren't going great or you have other issues or problems or just whatever.

Tyler (70:34)

Just.

Mike (70:36)

It's hard to have somebody make fun of you and not take offense to it. It's kind of like the tunnel thing. I could give a. Like, they can say whatever they want about me. I think it's great entertainment to go back and forth anyway. But, yeah, it's a unique business, and it's hard to not. And then you have spouses and. And. And other things that come in, like,

Nick (70:55)

I don't know.

Tyler (70:56)

Yeah. How do you.

Mike (70:57)

Like, you and our wives don't ever get upset with me and you. Like, we go at it sometimes, talking. Never has either of our wives been like, did you hear Tyler? Did you hear Mike? Like, if they understand the entertainment side of this.

Tyler (71:10)

Yeah. I mean, even if. I mean, you. Here's the thing is, you just don't let your wife, like, I. I don't know. Put your wife up, dude. I mean, if it comes to that. And she has some kind of weird, crazy opinion, you. To put your wife up. But we're just. I mean, it's. Nick. I mean, because, like, today was a little bit of practice, right. I was not happy With Nick Monday, I was not at all. I made a joke about it, this whole thing, but I was, I was kind of pissed off. At 11:20 mid show, Nick's bailing out because he had to shovel snow. Nick's argument is, oh, I'm not being paid. That's he made a joke about it. At the end of the day he's like, it's not a job. But my arguments, that is. But you, you want the exposure. You want to come on the prime Monday morning show. And I can't make the money to pay you without the content that you provide. So I, I in, in all reality until are making money, you can't really. They're. Everyone's gonna see it. And that's not a dig at Nick. That is just everyone's gonna see it at fit like what's right in front of them. No one but me or you are gonna think five years from now, you know, the opportunities that people have and anybody that sticks along and maybe they see it like, oh, I see it's funny. Nick's one of the only people that tell me, I believe in 5 years this is counterculture is going to be massive because of he can see it. But there, there needs to be like the ability to have shows like open mic or maybe Patreon Tuesday where we talk about these things. But. And a lot of the people in our industries get butter, dude. They quit, they cry, they get attitudes and all right, like and that.

Mike (73:05)

Yeah. And I mean I, I, I've gotten better about it. When the first go around at Copville there, I got into some beef, you remember, with the unconvincing undercover guy and like poorly made. And I took maybe a little bit of offense to when they came after the street goon name, almost like tonal or did like very similar. And I think because I was trying to, I was actually doing something for the guys that are the street dogs. It was giving them a place that I can make the memes and they can laugh and share things that they really can't do on their own because they'll get in trouble. So maybe I took a little bit of offense to it. Bottom line is, yeah, this is a tough, you have to have thick skin tough. And, and I don't think people understand the opportunities that they're getting by being something that you built. And I, I look at it like maturity wise, you know, I'll be very honest. Maturity wise. I saw, I met, you know, I met you before anything. I started Cobbill, we talked, I looked at him when I saw Antiher. I'm like, holy, what? Like, what a massive platform. That'd be awesome to get on that show. I left, you brought me on, and I had that moment of starstruckness. I'm like, oh, my God. I was on anti here. I'm telling everybody. Antihero, Antihero. I kind of saw the problems developing. Not stupid. I saw things happening, and I'm like, all right, you know, I want to be the co host. Anybody, if anything ever happens, I want to be. And then when it was time, it was like, but am I right? And we had that conversation, like, maybe it should be somebody else. I keep doing what I'm doing. And then it didn't, and here we are. But I never got that, like, pick me, pick me, because I. I want to do it. I. I had to take a step back, mature old Mike, and go, what's best for business? What's best for whatever?

Tyler (74:41)

And.

Mike (74:41)

And what's the best opportunity and to see people get this opportunity. And I'm not knocking Nick or anybody else, but this is a massive opportunity to be online, to have a massive platform already established and to really not have to pay any dues and not have to pay any money forward and not have to invest anything but some time. And that's where it's like, man, imagine you just got handed an opportunity to walk onto a show, and you didn't really, other than just by association, you got this massive break where you go to Barstool and you have to be a intern to get on for two or three years.

Tyler (75:17)

Yeah, look at Barstool. And you look at, like, an old clip and you're like, holy. That's that guy who we all know now, scrawny version of them ten years prior behind a camera. They have to earn their place. Now, granted, Barstool pays well, so, yes. But, you know, it's this whole thing, like, a lot of people, not a lot of people, there's just been onesies and twosies that have come around. And I think, like you said, they get starstruck and they lose, like, they kind of lose perception of reality, and

Mike (75:51)

you have to have good support. I'll be honest with you. I mean, I know we both, you know, we joke around wives and this and that, but at the end of the day, keeping it ground, even though sometimes it hurts the feeling. My feelings get hurt, and I'm sure yours do. Sometimes when you hear things or say, you're like. But at the end of the day, you have to stay grounded and you have to stay humble and you have to stay mission focused. And if you start to let your like for me, maybe I'm speaking for myself more here. I kind of drift sometimes. And it's like my wife will say, easy, buddy. Remember where you came from. Remember, he started like, this can all be gone tomorrow. You have to respect the game. And it's like, right, right. And I've kind of. But I'm. I'm very adapt. I adapt very well. And I go, okay, let me start thinking that way. But, yeah, these people get these golden opportunities, and it seems like they don't respect it enough or they don't. You know, you have to hustle. You have to give up to 10 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes. You know, you and I talk about it. Dude, just going live the other night, I was beat, dude, on that, Brock, I tried to talk you out of it. I was like, I did. I'll be honest. I was. It was Saturday. And you know what I'll be.

Tyler (76:52)

I hate.

Mike (76:53)

I hate giving my wife credit. Damn it, Jimmy. I hate giving my wife credit. But I was sitting there and I was like, tyler wants to go live. Not now. An hour from now. I'm like, it's gonna be 9 o'. Clock. I gotta drive Monday morning. And I'm sitting there and I start clicking and I hear, hey. I'm like, what? She's like, I don't. You take this the wrong way. And I'm like, I'm gonna take it the wrong way, but go ahead. And she's like, hey, when you own a business and like, you're. You don't get to pick your hours. Sometimes you gotta work. You gotta. And I'm like, okay, you're right. Like, you're right. Like, I'm like, I didn't want her to be right, but she was right. She's like, you have to. Like, you're gonna have to maybe work 9, 10, 11 o' clock tonight, get up and drive tomorrow. I'm like, all right, you're right. Like, that's when I was like, let's go. Let's do it. Let's do whatever you want. Let's do it. But I just kind of get. I have momentary lapses of, like, I got it all week, every day I'm online. Like, I got to record tomorrow's episode still for tomorrow. I got to do the live show tomorrow. I got to do tomorrow night with Dom. Like, I start to think about that. I'm just like, I just want to sit here and do nothing. But you Can't. So, yeah.

Tyler (78:00)

And the. In the reality is you putting in 18 hour work days really keeps you from getting the. Why am I not like the main guy? Like, why am I. I Like, why I. I see these guys. They. So what you don't see. And I'm not gonna. This is Patreon, so I'm not gonna. I'm not tooting my own horn, but you're looking at guys that have been doing this for over a year at least combined maybe five years between the two of us, but you don't see that. And then you also don't see mass. I mean, when we close this down, I have about an hour of work to do on this episode. Maybe if you count making a short. Like, if I was like, oh, Mike said something. 30 minutes and I want to clip that, you know, and then it goes. Then I have to go on a podcast at 2, which isn't a typical work day, but it's at 2 o'. Clock. And then there's just business. Creating shorts and reels takes about like 30 to 40 minutes of real putting out. Like, hey, we need to make sure we have long form in our video section. So you got to crop out the best part of an episode, like 15 minutes. Make a thumbnail for that, get that up and going. And business.

Mike (79:10)

I don't. Yeah, I don't envy anything you do.

Tyler (79:14)

You know, better than anybody. It's a. It's the DMS that.

Mike (79:17)

Yeah. And that's, you know, you work more on that. Like, I couldn't do what you do making those reels. You see what I put together and I'm like, like, I just. But I, I try to lean more on the interactions and keeping that whatever. But yeah, there's no. And I'm not, I'm not. It just, it is. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work that people don't realize. Oh, you're making memes. Well, yeah.

Tyler (79:37)

And I just. If people don't, they see it and people that kind of come into our world are like, okay, so I'm equal to Mike and Tyler. And then it's like I have the same air time, I have the same type episodes. They start getting frustrated. You can tell they're getting frustrated that, you know, well, well, I'm like you, right? And you're like having to step back and go, dude, I don't. I only want to say this once in my entire life because it's not who I am, but you're nothing like me. You're you. You just got here five minutes ago, dude. And,

Mike (80:14)

you know, it's. I kicked around, like, the auto response in Copville, and I'm like, I just can't do it. I can't do it. I answer every single message, and I've bought that. I bought into that, and I get it all the time. I know, man. I didn't expect you to answer. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to. And it may be something. Can you share that? Like, I got a plan for Thursday. I got a guy that I talked to, and he lost a. Lost a buddy of his in the line of duty, and he was like, you mind doing it? I was like, absolutely. Absolutely, I will. So I have to. You know, I saved the pictures. I got the little thing I'm gonna read Thursday. And it's like, that's just the right thing to do. And, you know, I might just double tap a message. People are not gonna get in, like, a paragraph, but I at least acknowledge. But that leads to a lot of things where it's like, you know, the guests. We're gonna. I'll tell you guys now, Thursday, we're gonna have the guy on that was in the. Tyreek Hill. The guy. The rest of Tyreek Hill. That went viral.

Tyler (81:07)

Yeah, dude, that's gonna be so much fun.

Mike (81:09)

My dumb autism, I call it. My Internet savviness was what got me to that guy. I saw a post, saw his name, did the research, found him, DM'd him on three different platforms till he responded, hey, man, you want to come on? I can't come on this day. I negotiated all that, and I got him coming on. But so those are little dumb things, like, you say, you sitting there doing reels for 30, you know, four hours, three hours. Like, I know it doesn't seem like my phone's in my hand. I'm not out there shoveling snow or I'm not out there pushing a zone. But I do do a lot of things to contribute by digging up these people, working on this guy, working on that guy, getting this guy ready. Hey, man, you want to. Come on. That's how I found Jerry. Worms, like, little things like that. Finding Jerry, trying to get that stuff done. So everybody's got their little thing, and if you sat back and looked, that's where somebody who has worked construction or. Or hard labor would go. These guys don't do a thing, man. They're Internet guys. Like, that's what it seems like. I can see where you might.

Tyler (82:00)

In a small business. You okay? So let's look at social media. Let's look at all the jobs we do. Social media outreach in the dms, editing, production, planning, episode planning. All of those things. Me and you handle. Me and you handle all of them. We're a small business. You can't. If you're a small business, you work 18 hours a day, then you do. You wear all the hats until you can afford to pay one person for one of those hats. And you got to make sure it's the hat that takes the most off your plate. And then, and then, and that.

Mike (82:35)

Well, yeah, but then we both run our own clothing line.

Tyler (82:38)

Yeah.

Mike (82:39)

So then I get, hey, man, this shirt has smudges all over the back. I got that message like two days ago. And I'm like, I looked at it. Can you send me a picture? I send a picture to the manufacturer. Oh, I need the logo in the picture together. So I gotta message the guy again. Can you send me a different picture? It's, there's, like I said all that together and for Anti Hero. And then we both run completely separate businesses, you know, because it's like they're all different.

Tyler (83:04)

And then we both run counterculture media. I mean, and that's, that's really. Right now, that's very self sustaining outside of. I have to spend about an hour a day on that, on people's episodes, making sure they're falling into the right categories, they're uploaded. Right. There's, you know, like I said, most people take care of their own shows on that network. I can tell you right now, Justin takes care of open mic. Me and Heather take care of Unfiltered. Jimmy takes care of Shadowcast. I take care.

Mike (83:33)

I do canines for him. I put.

Tyler (83:36)

Yeah. And so they all have their managers, but at the end of the day, like, we both have to. I mean, I probably spend about an hour a day on that, making sure that things are uploaded and they're talking with Justin, because you can't ever not have conversations about the businesses. So our business meetings are impromptu, informal. Yo, what up? Hey, I gotta run something by you. And then we talk for 20 minutes. That's a business meeting. Just because we don't sit at a table and go, all right, ready?

Mike (84:04)

Mike, I don't know that you and I, I don't think you and I hit. You know, we're, we're very close friends, but I don't think you and I have maybe 1% of our conversation is anything besides business. Like, oh, yeah, we don't ever call and be like, how are you? How are you? You know, I'm great, man. How are you doing? Like, it's never. It's always like this. This is what's going on.

Tyler (84:25)

One text I got where it's like, are you good? Because.

Mike (84:27)

Yeah, that was a couple weeks ago. I hadn't heard from Tyler, and it was like, Friday, Saturday, going into Sunday. And I looked at my wife and I'm like, I think Tyler hates me. I'm like, I haven't heard from him in all weekend. There hasn't been. I guess there was no problems that weekend. So it was like, had. And I'm like, you good? You're like, yeah, man, good. I'm like, okay. I'd heard from you and it was like. But, yeah, we really don't have conversations. We have business meeting after business meeting after business meeting, which are texts or calls, and they last. You know, I'm taking a. Or I'm walking the dog. And you call and I'm like, yeah, man, what's going on? Like, yep, okay. Yeah, do that, do this, do that. And then the next problem comes up, and then we do it again.

Tyler (85:05)

Yeah, thanks. Pride Assassin gifted somebody hopefully other than himself. That was a joke. It's an inside joke. Somebody. I thought there was a comment that somebody asked if you guys work harder than when you did. When. Oh, yeah, here you go. Did you guys feel like you do more work doing this instead of working in Leo? And that's. That's. Yeah. But here's the. It's. You're doing something that you love. This is going to sound super corny, but if you work 18 hours a day as a cop, you'll just. First off, physically, I don't think anybody can do it. It would destroy you physically. Sitting in a chair, strapping your boots and that belt on and doing cop work for that long. The only benefit about not owning your own business is at some point, no matter what it is, you can kick your feet up and go, this ain't my problem. The whole world can be burning down your. When you walk through that door, you take that off or you work for somebody in the private field. If you don't own your own business, that ain't my problem no more. I'm not.

Mike (86:08)

And the. In. The flip side, though, is you go to work and cops are notorious. I don't care what the. What cops say. Goons, gone daddies, booze, Bobs, anybody. You go to work and you're like, I ain't doing a thing today. And you go pull in that parking lot, you're like, I ain't moving until these call me. You do that in your own business and you're not gonna be very successful because there are time, like you said, you can kick your feet up and go, it's not my problem. And then there's things like, I have to do this and I want to sit here and do nothing. I want to go eat dinner, I want to go on a cruise, I want to go gamble, I want to go walk my dog. I can't. I gotta get this stuff done. And it's, it's a different kind of getting it done. But I mean, cops, honestly, if you were, especially if you work at a big agency, there are times you can just be like, I'm not doing nothing today. Like, I'm gonna go tuck myself into the very edge of my zone in some parking lot. And I remember those days. I didn't take a call, I didn't stop a car, I didn't do nothing for 12 hours.

Tyler (87:02)

Yeah.

Mike (87:03)

So you do that in your own job. And it's not going to last long.

Tyler (87:07)

Mike went on a cruise for like we were. Last one was what, like seven days?

Mike (87:12)

Yeah.

Tyler (87:13)

I mean, the whole time I told him, I am not going to bother you on your cruise unless I absolutely need to. And he's like, no, that's fine. Don't worry about it. I'm like, no, I'm not gonna. I still called you three or four times that week. Because I had to call you. There was just no other I had to call you. And, and like when, when you said like the whole put your feet up thing. If your business is doing good and you're like, okay, it's actually doing okay. Maybe I can relax for a second. There's always that fear of a client's gonna leave, a sponsor's gonna leave, a contract's gonna fall through, and now you're out a giant chunk of revenue that you will. How are relying on. So you're like, okay, it's stable right now. And then you're looking down and you're on this wibby wobble thing and a piece of that might fall off. And if you don't have another piece to shove up in there. So it's not like constantly making. We're not like money hungry. We're like, oh, we need more money, more money, more money. At any time, one of these sponsors could go, we're done. Here's your 30 day notice. And it's like, it's not dead. It's not going to be devastating. It's not going to ruin the show, but it's a huge stressor. It's like, dude, yeah.

Mike (88:24)

It's like getting a flat tire. It's not going to ruin your life, but it's like, I got to stop everything, figure this out, get a new

Tyler (88:30)

tire in real time rather than having a tire in the trunk ready to go in case, you know. So they just never stopped. And of course, our wives are saints because I mean it. I'm never off my phone, dude. Ever.

Mike (88:48)

Know it's tough, but yeah, it's. It's definitely a unique position. But we have this. I guess one of the best things about it is without ever discussing, we. We. We have a good balance with each other as far as how we handle things. And there's. Nobody's got a attitude or an ego. Like, everything is. I don't think we've ever gotten an argument about anything.

Tyler (89:11)

Well, you changed my password once.

Mike (89:14)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I changed right before the show started. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I do remember that. But here we are.

Tyler (89:30)

There's. And then there's things like one of our conversations the other night is, how do we turn? And I know you guys have seen this, and obviously numbers is not what we care about all the time. I mean, we have 13 people watching right now. We do not care about numbers all the time. But for overall growth of the business, we do care about eyes on and organic growth. We can't figure out the conundrum of going live on a Sunday night, no planning, no Nothing, and getting 300 live viewers and not being able to replicate that on a scheduled broadcast Monday morning at 11am it's something we've. Again, we don't. It's not that we're like, I love having the hundred people on average in there because it's all the same. Like. But at the end of the day, we have to grow or we'll get eaten up by the rest of our competitors. So it would be nice to have. Because we see we can do it. So it's not like we're not doing it and we're, like, pissed. Why don't we have 300? We want 300. It's like, it happens and then it doesn't happen. It's like, what are we doing wrong? Because we don't necessarily. Let's say we don't want 300. We're not shooting for 300 episode. What if we're shooting for like, two. 200, like every episode? 200 instead of 100? Like that's an achievable goal, but we can't figure out why. Yeah. And. Okay, so let's see. Clint says people are working. That is very true. Mike said that too. Mike's first thing is, like, this is a. We're doing, like, a radio broadcast where people turn on the radios and they. On their cubicle and they listen to maybe a tenth of the show because they're busy. It's background noise. This requires you, like, Mike said to have your phone open. I don't. You. I don't think you can play a podcast. Maybe you can.

Mike (91:25)

You can kind of minimize it, like, put the window at the top and listen. But it's. You're right, but you'd have to have

Tyler (91:32)

YouTube Premium in order to, like, close it out completely, right?

Mike (91:35)

Yes. So you're talking about people sitting at work, and it's like you could put your earbuds in and kind of do it, but you're still, you know, you're. You're looking at your phone. That's why. Maybe at night, man. Something like. That's why I keep kicking around.

Tyler (91:47)

Tyler, it's midday right now, and that was a hot topic at the time. Yeah, I mean, I. I get that it's midday and it. But we were talking about the hot topic. It was. It. Because it was a. It was news to me. When Mike told me, when we were taught Sunday, when we were talking about Monday morning again, the phone calls were like, hey, how's. What are we gonna do Monday? Monday morning? And Michael's like, oh, we got the Mar Lago shooting. We got the cartels blowing at Mexico. And I was like, what? I haven't heard of any of that. He's like, oh, yeah, Mexico's, like, on fire right now. That was at, like, lunchtime on Sunday. And we did it, what, 12 hours after it came out on the news, 9:00am Maybe it started coming out on Instagram and stuff. And we did. It wasn't a hot topic. I mean, Maduro getting captured. That happened at three in the morning, Eastern standard time.

Mike (92:34)

And we were live by, like, all

Tyler (92:35)

of us, all three of us were up at 9 ready to go. Did you catch that, Mike?

Mike (92:41)

Yes. You weren't. You are not. No. For those that don't know the. That story, when Maduro got. Tyler slept in and I had Jimmy, Mike, I. I don't know, but I think we should do this. But Tyler didn't give me any direction, and I'm like, all right, it. Let's do it.

Tyler (92:59)

So let's take. I Like it. This is what Patreon's for, so thank you, Tristan. We. That makes sense, Colt. Also, your audience is mostly first responders and military. So I'm going to go out on a leg and assume those people can't just pull it up on a computer or phone and listen to it while they're at work. Very true. That is a very true statement. But what separates Sunday night From Monday at 11 if. If half our first responders are working at night and the other half are working at. During the day? Again, I'm just Peter. Because people are at work. The breaking news, everybody knows something is going on.

Mike (93:37)

Clint's right too there. But. Or no. Cutter Pritchard says State of the Union tonight.

Tyler (93:45)

Y' all should go live for the State of the Union. Do you think you'll get more if you did in an evening news type show? So we talked about that. These guys, me and Mike.

Mike (93:55)

Super Bowl. We did good numbers at the super bowl halftime.

Tyler (93:57)

Did we? I thought we hit around 100.

Mike (93:59)

Yeah, that's coming for.

Tyler (94:01)

I mean, that's good. But you look at Night Shift, when Night Shift was on Anti Hero, it didn't ever. It didn't ever get above 110. It was scheduled.

Mike (94:09)

I think it. Yeah, it's the schedule. I don't know. I don't know if the algorithm pushes it out more when it's in Pro. I. I can't figure it out. We had 300 people the other day for that. Live.

Tyler (94:18)

Yeah.

Mike (94:20)

Without. No, without no. Any announcement.

Tyler (94:23)

That's what I'm doing. Mike Fritz says that's what I'm doing. Look at working on a job site and listening to you guys. Sometimes all that matters is taking the content and. And not necessarily watching. Taking in the content. Yeah. And that's again, until we can. Until Spotify. And I know we have the technology. I know that they're not allowing it. Spotify and Apple Podcasts have the ability to have. They. They have it to go live stream. Like, if you were to use your Spotify app right now, Anti Air broadcast live. We're broadcasting live audio wise. They just haven't released the capability. I know it. I know it in my bones. There's no way. There's no way they don't have that capability. But I think AM FM radio have like some kind of stronghold on that.

Mike (95:09)

Yeah. Or maybe taxi companies blocking Uber from certain cities like that.

Tyler (95:14)

Maybe XM now is like the old head. When they were new, they came in and destroyed FM radio. And now XM Satellite radio is like Listen, we can't have this, so.

Mike (95:24)

But because Apple's actually getting ready to push video out.

Tyler (95:27)

Yeah. And it's coming. But Apple without. We. We. We got turned down by Sirius XM back in the day.

Nick (95:38)

And.

Tyler (95:38)

Which I don't think we were ready for. But getting on local radio, it's just. It's not panning out. It is not panning out at all. And so we're just kind of stuck with YouTube live with every other broadcaster out there. All right. Tristan says. I think also the broadcast targets are specific demographic. First runner, military. So I could suggest a broadcast to Friends, but they just can't relate to it, unfortunately. And that's. That's. That's true. I feel. I feel it in my plums. Eastbound and down reference.

Mike (96:15)

I put that picture of Nick when he was on Fox News. This was his animated picture that he animated.

Tyler (96:22)

What a goober.

Mike (96:24)

He needs to make sure he has a hat on from now on.

Tyler (96:29)

But, yeah, so that's what, you know, if you see us. If you guys see us go live randomly soon at night, and you're like, huh, that doesn't really sound like breaking news. Insider.

Mike (96:45)

The Emergency Broadcasting Association.

Tyler (96:50)

It's not real, but we're gonna see if, like, the couch industry has upped its terrorists by 1% coming from China. Like, oh, my God, like, I.

Mike (97:01)

Something malfunction.

Tyler (97:04)

You like, what The State of the Union. But then you got to look at. We got in a lot of trouble the other day when we claim. I mean, dude, the Olympics and UFC. Holy. We got our video taken down like four times. I had to cut out, like 20 minutes of it function. What is the also. Is it State of the Union? Is that done once a year?

Mike (97:27)

Yeah, tonight.

Tyler (97:29)

Yeah.

Mike (97:29)

Every year. Yeah. He does, like, after January of the year, he'll do a State of the Union.

Tyler (97:33)

And here's. Here's the kicker about doing a live broadcast. You're home, you're comfy. I'm not speaking for Mike. I'm speaking for me wife's finally not mad at you for once. Your kids are behaving. It's like nine o'.

Mike (97:48)

Clock. Then it's all. Want to go live. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to scrap. I'm trying to scrape crumbs off the dollar menu with a wife with replaced hip, two replaced hips now. It's been great, man.

Tyler (98:06)

So is that something you want?

Mike (98:10)

But we're here for the boys. We're here for the boys and Liz always.

Tyler (98:17)

Do you want to go live tonight?

Mike (98:19)

No. Not even a little bit. But I will. Yeah, I don't care. Who do we got tomorrow? You want to tell them who the guest is tomorrow?

Tyler (98:28)

He goes by poopy turds McGee. He's a army, I think Afghanistan vet, but he's a stand up comedian. Let me actually pull my Poopy. That's his Internet handle. Obviously he's not. It's Jason Vest. You share the screen. Retired veteran, former War Department civilian, storyteller, life coach. Definitely an Otter dude, let's put it that way. He's not even on like Kill Tony.

Narrator (99:05)

Ladies and gentlemen, the number one freakiest thing that Jason Best has ever done.

Jason Vest (99:12)

I unintentionally gave a Mexican gentleman a foot job to completion on a Greyhound bus en route to Biloxi, Mississippi. When I was a recruitment recruiter for the Michigan Army National Guard, I used to recruit in Jackson, Michigan. I had this girlfriend that lived in MacNeil, Mississippi. We were in a long distance relationship. I met this when I was at a conference for the Army National Guard at the Naval station and Gulfport. We met at the casino, we fucked. A couple months later she let me know she was pregnant with another man's baby. But I'm kind of into that, so I. So I kept hitting it. And her baby daddy killed someone. He's in prison, he's also a veteran. He was in the Mississippi Army National Guard. We're really cool. And when I got on Kill Tony, that man sent me a message on Facebook. He must have had a smuggled cell phone in prison or some shit, I don't know. But he sent me a message and he was really proud of all my accomplishments. And that made me feel really good. Because when he found out I was plowing, his girlfriend who was pregnant was ex girlfriend. They broke up. I don't really know that whole story, details are fuzzy. But when Randy found out I was having sex with his pregnant girlfriend, he was really upset. He chased us down these back Mississippi roads in Pearl river county, shot at us with a shotgun. But we made. We made good. We made good. Randy is a good dude. It's really hard to travel between Jackson, Michigan and MacNeil, Mississippi, Mississippi. They're both not convenient. There's no airport in Jackson, Michigan, and there's only two airports that you can fly into to get to McNeil. That's.

Tyler (101:02)

That's kind of the. The gist. You still there?

Mike (101:07)

Yeah, I'm looking. Somebody brought the vest up. I wanted to read something real quick. So everybody jokes me about the vest. This is a young man from nypd. I said he Got shot. This was a couple days ago. So one of his buddies reached out and said, hey, man, this dude follows you. He's a real big fan. He got shot. So I sent him a voice message. I said, if you need anything, let me know. He said, I should be fine. It was a graze, and my vest caught the other one right in the chest. I'm a big fan of your podcast and your work, so I know I joke about it serious, blah, blah. But there's a guy who's in a foot pursuit, got in a gunfight, took one on the shoulder, one dead, square in the chest, and lived. Shot the guy. Nypd. So I made the joke. I'm sure the mayor is going to see the guy you shot. He'll forget to come see you. But, I mean, that's kind of the stuff, you know, taking time to do that kind of stuff. But the vest is important. I know I sound like a broken record, but gotta wear it.

Tyler (102:13)

Well, I think that's it, man.

Mike (102:15)

Yeah, I'm good. I'm hungry.

Tyler (102:19)

We also made the command decision that we don't have to go for two hours if you don't want.

Mike (102:23)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that was a you thing. I'm surprised I got away with that.

Tyler (102:28)

I have all the ideas. Mike's just here to tell me which ones aren't good.

Mike (102:32)

Sounds like your wife, right? It's like both of them are wise. Great idea. That one sucks. I mean, I think what happens in this is the honest thing, because we go three hours, right? Things are flowing, we got a great episode, somebody's on. I think setting that parameter is kind of like, like your shift. Like, oh, man, five o', clock, I'm out of here. Like, I think you start to. Your brain goes, like, I got 10 minutes left. I'm just gonna wing it, where we just go hard for however long. Okay. Know, spend an hour and a half. Hour and 30, hour and 40, we're good to go. You switch us where we're at.

Tyler (103:08)

Whoa. Yeah, I know you can do that.

Mike (103:10)

Ocd.

Tyler (103:12)

Yeah. I stop listening to you. But anyways. All right, all right, we'll see you guys tomorrow, 11am what you say?

Mike (103:18)

Malfunction. Malfunction.

Tyler (103:21)

See, 11am Tomorrow. Sa. Team for life.