PATREON TUESDAY (03/17/2026)

Summary

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The Antihero Broadcast – PATREON TUESDAY (03/17/2026)

Date: March 18, 2026
Hosts: Michael Dilks, Dominic (Dominic Ozone), Tyler
Main Theme:
A gritty, unscripted news and commentary episode aimed at veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans. The hosts tackle law enforcement internet drama, internal police culture, and current policing events—emphasizing authentic conversation, inside jokes, and direct engagement with their loyal “OG” community.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on classic Antihero themes: navigating police culture, internet drama among law enforcement “meme pages,” and a deep-dive breakdown of recent police encounters at Daytona Beach Spring Break. Throughout, the hosts emphasize transparency, willingness to debate critics, and their mission of fostering a supportive blue-collar community.

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

1. Show Start and Banter

[01:28–04:03]

• Hosts settle in after tech difficulties and set the date, with plenty of light, sarcastic banter about broadcasting remotely.
• Quick shout-outs to regulars in the chat and recognition of a new YouTube member.
• Ongoing jokes about poor video and audio quality ("Tyler is live from the trap", "Mashed Potato Connection").

2. Inside Baseball: The Law Enforcement Community & Meme Pages

[15:45–28:40]

• Critique of meme pages run by young, patrol-level cops—accused of stirring drama for clout and lacking experience.
• The hosts assert these pages promote division by anonymously criticizing more experienced officers.
• Discussion of a new viral meme that calls out former officers, including the hosts’ friends, for “quitting” or leaving the force early.
• Quote:
  • “You are doing every day on this podcast to better the culture for law enforcement.” – Dominic (33:36)
  • “If you hide behind a meme page and you don’t tell us who you really are, that’s just…if you’re gonna throw shade and talk behind a meme page, that is 101 from the get go. Me and Mike said you’re a [expletive] if you do that.” – Dominic (33:42)
  • “It proves my point about the job is dead, dude.” – Michael (34:01)
• Hosts outline their ethos of putting their names and faces to their opinions, contrasting it with “catfish” or anonymous meme creators.

3. Critique of Daytona Beach Law Enforcement's Spring Break Approach

[38:19–54:22]

• Background on the shift to "guardian" (not "warrior") mentality by Volusia County Sheriff Mike Chitwood.
• Play and break down of Chitwood’s Spring Break statement and later, his public explanation after viral disorder/shootings.
• The hosts mock the perception vs. reality of strong law enforcement rhetoric not being backed by effective action.
• “You tell your guys to go out there, put in work…then you get admin going, 'well, that looks bad,' and we’re going to put you on leave.” – Dominic (54:22)

4. Breakdown: Viral Daytona Arrest Video

[43:22–54:22]

• Play-by-play reaction to a bodycam/cell phone video of a Spring Break arrest over an open container—resulting in a physical and chaotic struggle.
• Michael and Dominic debate use-of-force, practical policing, and the difference between old-school and modern public scrutiny.
• Quote:
  • “I don’t have a problem with the arrest. If you want to drink an open container in public and you want to be a dick bag about it, I’m taking you to jail. I’ve done it 100 times.” – Michael (51:28)
  • “But you’re using the same…you’re using a different model of apprehension for a worse model or more combustible model of criminal.” – Dominic (52:13)
  • Discussion on how public banter and extended struggle escalate situations and risk officer careers.

5. The Reality of Police Discretion and Departmental Support

[54:22–57:57]

• The hosts caution about the realities of department support: “They don’t have your back” if something goes viral.
• The difference between young and experienced police responses to minor law violations is discussed.
• Reiteration that, in policing, outcomes are often dictated by how suspects behave: compliance vs. escalation.

6. Calls to Action and Teaser for Patreon Content

[57:57–end]

• Reminders to subscribe to Patreon for unfiltered second-hour content.
• Touting the supportive, no-shaming, community-focused nature of their podcast.

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Key Insights & Memorable Moments

• Meme Page Accountability:

  • The hosts dedicate significant airtime challenging the culture of anonymous, critical meme pages, contrasting it against their principle of transparency and willingness to debate in public.
  • Memorable, pointed rants about “catfish” culture and “cop behavior.”

• Law Enforcement Self-Critique:

  • They openly acknowledge disciplinary experiences and the hard lessons of police culture, especially regarding internal and public criticism.
  • Segment on SWAT/patrol politics is filled with dark humor and personal anecdotes.

• Current Events Police Critique:

  • Spring Break policing is dissected—focus on the contrast between strong public statements and the messy reality caught on camera.

• Relatability, Inside Jokes & Language:

  • Banter about bad WiFi, feeling like "mashed potatoes" on camera, and “Christian trap houses” keeps the tone irreverent and accessible.
  • Frequent jokes about being on video delays and getting called by spouses during the broadcast.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “If you hide behind a meme page and you don’t tell us who you really are, that’s just…if you’re gonna throw shade and talk behind a meme page, that is 101 from the get go. Me and Mike said you’re a [expletive] if you do that.” – Dominic (33:42)
• “It proves my point about the job is dead, dude.” – Michael (34:01)
• “You do every day on this podcast to better the culture for law enforcement.” – Dominic (33:36)
• “You tell your guys to go out there, put in work…then you get admin going, 'well, that looks bad,' and we’re going to put you on leave.” – Dominic (54:22)
• “I don’t have a problem with the arrest. If you want to drink an open container in public and you want to be a dick bag about it, I’m taking you to jail. I’ve done it 100 times.” – Michael (51:28)
• “But you’re using the same…you’re using a different model of apprehension for a worse model or more combustible model of criminal.” – Dominic (52:13)
• “That guy dictated that problem. That guy throwing the cork, whatever he did. If he’d just been like, ‘Yup, my bad…’, I bet he does that, the dude doesn’t even ask for his ID.” – Michael (57:10)

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Antihero stands for open, honest debate and putting identity to your critique, even in a highly critical police culture.
• Strong skepticism toward internet “meme page” drama that sows division within law enforcement.
• Recognition of the pitfalls of modern policing—especially public, viral scrutiny and the lack of institutional support in high-profile incidents.
• A blend of black humor, real war stories and candid takes—delivered for, and by, the street-level cop and blue-collar listener.

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For more unfiltered discussion on these topics, the hosts direct listeners to their Patreon second hour, promising more behind-the-scenes stories and community conversation.

Transcript

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[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

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[Ezo]

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[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Are we on?

[Michael Dilks]

We are on.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

What's up? Good morning.

[Tyler]

It is Tuesday, March 17, 2026. I up the date on the. I didn't think it says. It says Patreon 317026.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Anyways,

[Michael Dilks]

we're here.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

We're live.

[Tyler]

It's Tuesday. I'm in California time which is awful because it's 8 in the morning here. I don't know how people do that. Watch our show at 8 in the morning. I couldn't handle it.

[Michael Dilks]

It's rough.

[Tyler]

I have a co host named Mike. Sometimes he talks, sometimes he doesn't talk.

[Michael Dilks]

Well you're. I don't know if you realize you're. Yeah, you're kind of like choppy. So I'm trying to like go if you're going to read the ads like I'm, I'm, I'm all over the place here.

[Tyler]

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[Michael Dilks]

Beautiful. All right. Finally off the train, huh?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, I'm gonna.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna jump onto my computer once it's done, like, upgrading or whatever, and see if I can.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I'm on the phone right now.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh, boy. It's been a kids week.

[Tyler]

Kids got the kids playing video games in the beds.

[Michael Dilks]

Nobody's doing drugs back there, are they?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

This is a.

[Tyler]

This is actually a Christian trap house.

[Michael Dilks]

Okay?

[Tyler]

No drugs. I can't see any comments, so I use.

[Michael Dilks]

You can't see them at all. Oh, you're on your phone. All right. We don't get service, I guess.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I know. I get phone calls, and I can't even, like, decline the phone call without it kicking me off. So give me two. Give me 10 minutes. Computer's getting up and running, and then we'll go.

[Michael Dilks]

New member. Let's start from the top. New member became a YouTube member. Jared Butler. We appreciate it. All the boys are here, Dylan. I'll go right down the comments. Good morning. Yo, yo, morning, all. All the OGs are here. The 99ers. The OGs, everybody. Brady Gator, who will be there Thursday night again, coming to see the boys. Cece and everybody.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Hell yeah.

[Michael Dilks]

Missed yesterday's show. It was on. It was on par. We did good. Who did I have yesterday? I don't even remember me.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

And yes, he see it.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh, yeah, dude, it's like a difference.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Is your retirement life really hard to keep track of?

[Michael Dilks]

It? It is when you're. You're dealing with 3, 000 text messages back and forth. I don't even know who's coming on tomorrow. I haven't even asked this guy because

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I don't even know. No, you have the.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, I need a co host. Justin, you want to co host tomorrow? If not, I know who I can rely on. I need a co host for tomorrow. There's all the boys. Mike, that somebody's asking about the X conference. So, Justin, if you know this answer, he's got a buddy that might want another booth at the Justice X conference. So let's Find out about that for him.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

She's got his shot.

[Tyler]

Kenny.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, we'll get Kenny involved.

[Ezo]

See?

[Michael Dilks]

No, ours. Yo, I'm late. But so of everybody else. You're right. Not real broadcast unless they're at least five minutes late. We were only we're on time yesterday. I don't know what the common denominator to being late is, but I know CC and I were on time yesterday. All right, all the G's are here. Tyler has Justin in the in car. Justin connection. I agree. This makes sense. Tyler's broadcasting from space. Major video delay.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Is it that bad?

[Michael Dilks]

It's pretty bad. Damn. Tyler has a Walmart connection. Yeah, you can definitely tell it sounds. I think the guy from Pakistan had a better connection yesterday.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Give me a second. I'm loading my computer.

[Michael Dilks]

Tyler is live from the trap. I still love you, Justin. Room service from the parking lot. The thing is, it looked great from my end. Tyler.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Thank you.

[Michael Dilks]

Is Tyler going to explain why he took the train? No, he's not.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, no, I'll explain it on Patreon. The second hour. We'll go into the.

[Tyler]

The train.

[Michael Dilks]

Got some good stuff for the second hour.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Thank God. No, he's not. I know why he said that sideways. All right, I'll try that.

[Michael Dilks]

The Lord's trap. Yeah, I mean it's good as it's gonna get. Heathen. Heathens. Hello everyone. What's up gents? What's up, Aqua? Justin said he can host co host tomorrow. Perfect. We have an NYPD cobble on tomorrow. Really good dude. Another young guy I know Mike, just

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

sitting here selling that episode. Got a guy. He's a good dude.

[Michael Dilks]

Now we got a guy. You'll find out. He's a NYPD cop. He's been. He's big contributor on Fox News all the time. He's got like 30 years he's been involved in I think seven officer involved shootings. So he's a little older guy, but he's definitely young at heart. We talked to him on at a meeting Nick G money got us set up with him. And like I said, he's contributor on Fox News. Does a bunch of other stuff. Should be interesting. It's not just. Not just a square. He's actually a. The old school NYPD that used to kick ass and take names.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, he just. So he had a. He had a. Oh, you guys can't even see me. He had a security company that he sold. But it was really successful in his post retirement life. He sold a security company? Yeah, which you know that's pretty cool to see somebody retire as a cop and then have a successful business and then be able to sell that business. I think that's, that's just in the, in and of itself. I would want to hear that story.

[Michael Dilks]

The only, that only counts though, if you do your full term. If you leave after like 10 years, you're a piece of. And oh yeah, you're not a real cop. We'll cover that in Patreon too. I saw you, I saw you sending all the stuff to anti here that we're going to cover and yeah, Patreon, there's some good stuff in there. I'm going out and I sent it to you. We'll go over that as well. Me and Dom are going at it with an actual agency that's commenting back. It's getting pretty good, dude.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I getting real good and not for the freaking life of me. Get this microphone to work, dude.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, you're on the potato too. So it's all good.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

That is. I'm potato for real.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh yeah. Like you're not, your mouth's not even moving. You're just moving and we hear words coming.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Are you serious?

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah. Sal said Ty looks like he's filming on Mashed Potato. It's, it's not terrible. It's not terrible, but it's, I mean, you know, but we're here. We're on, we're, we're live. What else we got going on? We got. I think the top Iranian guy's dead again. I think they killed another, another top guy. Cuba's killed another one. Killed. This top guy again is dead. Cuba's got no gas.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

How do we do a baseball. How do we do in baseball?

[Michael Dilks]

I had the date wrong. They played a night. Last night was the game to decide who the USA plays tonight. So tonight is the USA game. And I have no idea who won last night because I turned the computer off after and I went completely let my who's joke. Everybody says Joe Kent resigned. Am I. That's the best Tyler's ever looked. Oh, I do. Okay. All right, Tyler's gone. That's good. Here I am. I am. My name is Michael Dilks. I am the co owner of the anti hair broadcast and the glue that. Oh, never mind. I was just talking nice about you before you came back in. Did you shave? Playing Call of Duty back there. Did you shave?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Turn to me.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, I'm talking to you.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

No, I know, buddy. I, I, that's really cool that they, they do not. Nothing's working at all no service. My wife's calling me. I. She's called me twice since eight in the morning knowing. Because she's trying to rent a car. I'm like, hey. She. I was like, babe, just so you

[Michael Dilks]

know, starting at 8, this broadcast thing that we do every.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You know, I was like, I. I get it if you gotta call, if you got a call, I get it. Now. She didn't. She doesn't know that if I'm on the phone, any phone calls that come through immediately take me off this, even if I don't, like, want to answer it. I need Justin to call me, though, because this is pissing me off. I cannot get my microphone that's on to go through streamyard. So, Justin, if you please could give me a call that would be amazing. If I pop off,

[Michael Dilks]

I'll run it, man. I got it. We're here.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I'll be right back.

[Michael Dilks]

Go ahead. Goodbye. Get out of here. All right, well, chat. It's you and I, we're running the show today. You guys take it in the direction you want. We can take calls. We can always take calls. I can plug the phone in. Let's plug the phone in. Okay, let's go. 77221, 75453 is the number to reach the antihero broadcast to call in, cuss me out, whatever you want to do. I was going to save this for the other hour, but since I have to run this whole operation by myself, which is fine, we're all good. Going to go to this comment thread with this page that. Let me go to my story. We'll get it up for you guys here in a second. What do you want to talk about? Guys, it's your show. I'm just here. Here's a guy's wearing no vest. Let me go back. All right, let's go to this page. All right, so lay some groundwork. Let me get the share screen up. And we're going to. First we're going to. Mike, you and Izzo going to critique the video you showed yesterday, which I'm. You'd have to show. I got. I'm going to show you guys a comment thread, kind of what happens on the Cotville side of things. And this page. This page wants all the smoke. And I don't. I don't think they really, really do, but they're pretending they do. So here is. All right. So for those at home, this is East Windsor, Connecticut Police Department. They posted this picture of. You can believe this. Female, Little, small female. The chief's Daughter got hired as a cop. Interesting, right? So of course it doesn't go well in the comments. And Izzo reached out, made a comment. The deputy chief basically came at Izzo talking smack. And Izzo's like, get online and debate me. He's like, I'll call you, but I'm not getting online, so I'll give you guys a rundown. Kind of how it went with. I said, didn't the deputy chief pop off at Dominic Ozone then fold like a chair about coming on the show? Negative. He offered to have a conversation and the fraud of a podcast or decline. He merely wanted to click in views. Now this little page has like 6, 000 followers. Little town in Connecticut. They're talking about clicks and views, which is all they're posting for. But we don't care about this. This is for their own clicks and views. So I said, I read them. You know, you guys can read. I read the messages. Deputy chief refused to come on. The good news is fraud Dominic is on. I run a show that's called Hot Topic, are welcome to come on and nobody will be platforming your hateful rhetoric. My hateful rhetoric? That's because it would take any intelligence and intellect to appear on the live show and have a debate with cop Villa. Tell your deputies, chiefs to finish the conversation. Then we're begging for views. We have. We're good. Leave the job to professionals. Now, these are the professionals that came on and talked, and Dominic is those DM so unprofessionally. And then now it's about professionalism. And then, you know, kind of goes back and forth, kind of like I do, back and forth. But if you look at most of the comments, you know, they're talking nobody this chick age gets hired in Connecticut unless you're related to somebody. So I'm pretty sure up in Connecticut, stop sharing that. You have to have a friend. You have to know somebody. It's a chief's daughter. And could the chief's daughter possibly be sufficient? Of course she could. But it just seems suspect that kind of like when you make a comment like the deputy chief comes running to the DMS to, to argue with Dominic and then, you know, they're white knighting for her. I mean, it's on Dominic's page too, how they came out and said, you know, he was like, oh, you, you want to debate it? I'll debate you right now. Dominic said, you're not going to call me? Let's go right online. Let's go live. You're, you know, you want to talk. And I kind of feel the same way. You're not going to call me and, and, and we're going to talk and then you're going to go say I told him this, I told him that. Here we are. Like you can go right here on this. And I've done it several times where I just say come on and let, let's get at it. But nobody seems to want to do that. A lot of these small meme pages, a lot of these other pages, some bigger pages are cowards as well. You guys know one of them very well that don't want to talk in public. They want to, you know, take jabs sideways and, and do it that way. So I'm wrong all the time. I believe certain things. I'm willing to stand behind my beliefs on here. And I think it's just like we did the whole Jimmy situation. I think it's important to be transparent and in the open. But call an interview Lewis. You guys don't want me to go. Clint says call and interview Lewis. I, I Cece got to see the whole Lewis effect yesterday and Interesting, right? Interesting. Just at Myrtle Beach. Maybe you guys want to do a 10 minute shakedown live or an hour or two. I have a line, I gotta call the guy today. I have the line on a place called the Rowdy Rooster in Conway, South Carolina. And it is right, I guess right outside Myrtle beach. And it's owned by, it's like, looks like it's a country bar and it's owned by a former deputy. So I'm going to call him today and we're going to set up looks like we're going to try to set up a like a night out with the boys Wednesday then Wednesday night, whatever the Wednesday night is. We're in Myrtle, we're in Myrtle beach the 20th, 21st, 22nd, 23rd. So we would set something up on April 22nd at this restaurant. We'll live stream for two hours, have a DJ or whatever they're normally doing, drink some beers with the boys and get at it. Nobody wants to hear my funniest. I don't really remember my. Somebody put funniest ticket arrest I've written. Dude, I've done so many. There's so many episode tomorrow I'm pretty sure is going to be on body cam on Copville Copvil O G Tomorrow I'm going to break down the body camera of an absolute psychopath female cop locally and how she goes batshit crazy on a citizen. And you guys are gonna want to See that one? You're gonna want to see that one. Bring your vest to Myrtle beach, because. Yes, he's back.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

All right, so apparently I must have a charging cord and not a data cord that's relaying the data from the microphone to the computer. I didn't know that was a thing. I hate technology.

[Tyler]

Whatever.

[Michael Dilks]

Are you on the computer now?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah. How do I look? Do I look better? I know I probably sound terrible, but there's nothing.

[Michael Dilks]

No, you don't. You. You sound way better than you look. And that. It's nothing to do with the camera quality.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I'm just got. Sorry. Where I look like that kangaroo.

[Michael Dilks]

Why don't you look?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

That's all jacked and.

[Michael Dilks]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Look. Yeah, you look like. You look like a bullet. You're, like, shaped like a V. You're supposed to be up. Shoulder's supposed to be up high,

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

too, man. I'm not even trying. Bad lighting. Not even trying.

[Michael Dilks]

Clint, save this guy, man. Anyways, so he says you look like Skype from Iraq.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Skype.

[Michael Dilks]

You look like you're Skyping from Iraq. He said. Well, well, well. Tyler, sound better look like mashed potato. No, it's better. It looks good now. I mean, we can only work. No, you look good. You look good. You best you can possibly look. You're good.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Live from the. The Christian Trap House.

[Michael Dilks]

So where are you right now currently? What city of. In the world are you?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

San Clemente, California, which is in Southern California.

[Michael Dilks]

Did anybody throw at you yet?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Is everybody. No, this is rich people area, so Huntington Beach, San Clemente, data point. Like, that's all rich white people stuff. And even the poor people are semi classy wannabe rich white people, like middle class.

[Michael Dilks]

What is the demographic then?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

It is 99.51 demographic? Yes.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh, okay.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Is that. I mean, I don't know.

[Michael Dilks]

There's no. Nobody. Nobody's shoplifting from Target or Walgreens. Nothing?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

No, no, not here.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh, okay.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

So we'll get into it. I know we only got 30 minutes left in our first hour. If you have it, go to Patreon and subscribe to our Patreon. Any. Any. Any paid membership. You can watch the second hour live from Patreon.

[Michael Dilks]

Look at that, the answer podcast. Patreon. I'm Lewis, man. I'm living the dream,

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

huh?

[Michael Dilks]

I'm living the. I had the Patreon thing up. Like, I'm doing like Lewis. I didn't realize Florida. My buddy got the Panama. Not the ultimate. Yeah, I see that. What do we got? Tell us about the. Well, no, I guess you can say that for Patreon. How's the trip overall? Just a brief part of the trip.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Instagram, dms.

[Michael Dilks]

What happened?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

All right, so the first thing we're going to talk about is meme pages. Let's discuss meme pages Now. I wasn't going to bring this up, but I'm going to. And here's why. Meme pages are cute in their own right. I remember. So here's the first thing about a meme page is that I know you're new to the job because you're on patrol and you got time to kill and you're not allowed to do anything or you're not, you're not qualified to be on some kind of unit that requires 80 of your week or 80 hours of your week. Right. So I know you're on patrol, which means if you're on patrol, I'd be willing to say stuck on. Oh, okay, let's just take the name out of it. Stuck on patrol. Let's just take the name out of it. I would bet. Three year cop. Three year or less.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Do you know who that is?

[Michael Dilks]

I, I, no, but I can find out. But I'm done with that. But yeah, I get it. It and it screams that because I, as we break down the meme, I'll point out all the flaws in it. But go ahead, I'll let you keep going.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Well, so. Oh, I would never out anybody. I don't care, as long as they didn't try to like really ruin like lie or, or like say like I would never out anybody even if they talk. I would, I promise everybody. But I would like for this guy to reach out to me and say, hey, I'm so and so. I've been on the job for X amount of years. I'm not going to make him prove it. I still take cops at their word. They're not liars.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

We want cops to be able to, to testify at the stand. So. But I want, I want a six month update on his career and I want to see because I used to do this stuff and that's when I say, like it's cute. Like it's cute. Like I get it. I used to do this same thing when I was on patrol. I'm like, bro, you don't even know. I'm gonna be swat. I'm gonna be Street Crimes, I'm gonna be Narcotics. Like, you don't even know what I'm gonna be. I'm gonna go out there and Kill it. I was getting dope and handling calls, baby. Burglaries, warrants, guns. I was doing it all. And it's just a young and. And I can. It screams young cop when I see stuff like this.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, it's young cop. It's in. And here's the thing. What's that one guy? The prime initiative? Is that the other guy?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, and he's pretty cool. He seems nice, I don't know.

[Michael Dilks]

And then he throws like. Well, here's where the meme gets flawed is Hawk Grill is on there and he's still a cop. So that makes the whole meme stupid because that guy is actively still a cop. So the other three aren't. Little bit of back, you know, you can easily figure out like Izzo worked 19 years, I think total, which is a long time, and quit and then worked outside of Chicago. So just like outside of Atlanta, just like outside any city, you could work for a 25 man department that's three miles from Chicago. You work in Chicago, you deal with Chicago like okay, you worked in a huge agency. You, you made SWAT at a huge agency. You were street crimes at a huge agency. That is a, you know, that's a, that doesn't happen. That's a small amount of guys at an agency with a couple thousand people to get through all those different avenues. And then, you know, I don't know much about the other guy. And then Hawk Grill still works. So that my problem with it. That's the problem. What's funny is he, he has all those dudes down there who he doesn't have up is he kind of dodged, which I'm surprised I didn't get tossed into this or poorly made police memes because that's an interesting line to walk. He's the king of police meme pages, right? One hundred and some thousand. He's like a five year cop and quit. He did five years, six years in Aurora somewhere in Colorado and then he quit and started a podcast that's only audio, doesn't even show his face. So he's like the godfather of meme pages. But everybody avoids him because he's the guy, right? He's the top guy. But he's not on there. And he's not. He's a five year cop, very mediocre, rich, uppity white agency. I know his name, I've pulled his file, I know the cases he's worked, very small career. So it's just. This was a three or four year, right? Three or four year cop trying to jack off the other meme pages.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah.

[Michael Dilks]

Get a little clout and throw up a meme of some guy.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Like I told you, he's punching upwards. Right. He's hoping we punch downwards. And I get it and that's why we're covering it. So now every. I'm sick as, by the way, I'm taking zy cam up my nose. But yeah, I mean, he's probably an sro. He probably will be an SRO soon when he gets frustrated.

[Michael Dilks]

Let, let me, let me pause one second. Just one comment real quick. Somebody watched the episode, me and his own. So disappointed I didn't push back more on Izzo about the tickets or use of force. I'm not. That show is not for me and ISO screaming each other. We disagree on things. I point out my side, he points out the other. I, I, it's just, it'd be like there's no reason to have two co hosts screaming. We, we disagree on very much tactics. So I just want to cover that, that I, I, you know, I disagree with Tom a lot, but it'd be like me and you disagreeing about everything. And everybody watches the show where we argue all day. I don't think anybody wants to see that. So anyway, yeah, it's, I don't know. How did you end up there? How did you get on this page? I thought it was great. I'm like, damn. As soon as I saw it, I'm like, oh, God, where am I at? And I kept looking and I'm like, oh, man. I didn't get accused of being a crooked cop. I didn't get fired. Like, nothing.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I just probably knows you're Copville and you're an og and I'm assuming he's

[Michael Dilks]

like, but I didn't make the bottom either. I didn't make the bottom either.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Well, yeah, that would be if he put the, the two hosts one up.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah. Some of the guys on the bottom reached out to me and they're like, I don't know this dude either. Like, nothing about him.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

And, but I would like for him to come to me. I would never ex, like I said, I would never dox him. I wouldn't put how many years he's been out there, but I want to know personally.

[Michael Dilks]

He won't tell you. Never do it. Never do it.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

No, he won't. And that, that's what caused a problem for me in law enforcement was like, like you said, 2000 man agency. I think when I tried out for SWAT the second time, 14 people tried out. Four, four completed tryouts. I was one of the four and I got selected to keep going on spot. So street crime is very competitive. Everything's competitive there.

[Tyler]

So.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

But I didn't do the bead page thing. I remember when I got on swat, the dude sat me down and like, dude, your Instagram is crazy. And I was like, hey, Eli, Eli, can you give me some toilet paper? You give me some toilet paper. My zycam's leaking out my nose. Anyways, they were like, dude, you can't be posting like that. They're like, do a meme page. It's anonymous. I'm like, what the is that? And they're like, you know, well, you could post all this crazy you want about copper, but no one knows it's you. I was like, no, I'm good. I always did it from me and that for right downhill. I know people want to talk about swat. I was kicked off spot because I was not on brand. They didn't like my apparel line. They didn't like what I posted. I tried changing for them. I tried taking down shirts. They didn't like. They, I mean, great. Thanks, man. They had great points. You know, they were like, I had a shirt that said like, bring the blood. At the time, it was like a bicep curling a. A dumbbell, like putting blood in the muscle. I'd be confrontational. I had all these shirts and like this walk. Commander sat me down. And they're like, when you kill someone in the door, then they're like, we don't think. If we think when the state, the prosecutor and the defense attorney are going to have a field day with you because you have a shirt line, bring the blood, be confrontational, and then you kill somebody.

[Michael Dilks]

That I, I get what they're saying, but I think that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life. Because I, I get, I get it, but I get it. But it's stupid because the incident stands in and of itself. Now if you had a, you know, some racial slurs on your page or some like, threats to certain minorities or groups, I could see where. Okay, you were saying, but a shirt, dude, Like a shirt. Nike says, Nike says, just Nike says, just do it. So if you shoot somebody, were you just gonna do it for all along when you're wearing the Nike shirt?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Like, yeah, well, they didn't like me. Like I said, they don't like me from the get go. So. But the problem is, is that they wanted that. They're not getting the candidates, like, anything in life, police work in general, the military, special operations. Nobody's getting the candidates they want, so they get did, and they're like, man, he's really against the grain. He's like, half of my. You know, with swat, they go out there, they talk to your supervisors, past and present. And half of them were like, dude, that guy's a. The other half are like, dude, Tyler's a man. It's just I'm one of those guys you either love me or hate me. And that was just. I wasn't passive enough to be, like, on swat. Like, I didn't take order. Like, I did take orders, but I wasn't. Like, I tried to be, but it's just not who I was. So I always say I wasn't on brand for swat. It's just not a good. Like, I. I knew I did them a disservice because they're a professional entity. They are the tip of the spear, and I throw middle fingers up and, you know, say the N word with an A. Sometimes I'm just not on brand with them.

[Michael Dilks]

Here, here. And I'm gonna. Here's my rant about it. So I started a meme page. But I didn't go after tactics, attack people. I just made memes, Okay? I stayed in my lane. You. You know, Then you found out who I was. This guy is a. And here. Let me tell you why.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Which guy?

[Michael Dilks]

This guy that made this meme. Because he. He doesn't let anybody know who he is. This is the Tinder Catfish. This is. He can be anybody he wants to be. Just like you said, he doesn't put his business. This is also typical law enforcement, dragging somebody down. You're a piece of. Because you did 10 years and then started a successful business, which means you're a Shitbag Izzo. Did 19 years. He's a piece of. Because he didn't finish. And he only worked in a small town, and now he does police content. The other guy I really don't know about. And then Hawk Rilla is a piece of cop that's still a cop.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Nothing but positivity. Dude, I've never seen him throw shade at anybody.

[Michael Dilks]

So there's. There's. There's that. So then you go out and do it exactly what cops do. Attack other cops because, what, jealousy or some type of disorder, whatever you have, without disclosing who you are? So we don't know who you are. And that just discredits your entire opinion from front to back, to me is you're too much of A coward to identify yourself and just stick in the meme game if you're making memes. But if you go back to some of his things he said in the comments and then his memes, he talks about the reason guys that stick it out get promoted and they care about this. But then all his memes are about how shitty admin is. So you're still in the job, you're still on the job, you're not making a difference. You're not doing anything to shake the tree. You're just making memes about how shitty your agency is or how shitty the job is while you're on. Guys who did 19 years, did 10 years, worked in high speed, and then moved on to a different job and now bring awareness, donations, a platform for cops to come out.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You are doing every day on this podcast to better the culture for law enforcement.

[Michael Dilks]

Correct?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

And dumbass like this. No offense, sucker patrol, but you're a. If you hide behind a meme page and you don't tell us who you really are, that's just. If you're gonna throw shade and talk behind a beat page that is 101 from the get go. Me and Mike said you're a. If you do that. I'm not really trying to call you a particular. That's just like behavior.

[Michael Dilks]

So it's cop behavior. This. It proves my point about the job is dead, dude.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I'm tough by that batch.

[Michael Dilks]

Where did Izzo were? I can't. He worked all outside of Chicago. I forget the agencies he's got. Everything about him is on his page. He's the most open, honest guy. I don't, I can't rattle off on the top of my head. But yeah, this behavior is typical of these. Of the meme page guys. And I really, I was, I was gonna stay out of it. I went and made a joke. Like, I, I know some other people in their comment. I've progressed past this because I see that, I see what we're doing and how effective it is. I know my resume. I know your resume. Like if you honestly, honestly, if you were a shitty cop, I would, we wouldn't even have connected. Like, we met in a SWAT school. We met with the same kind of beliefs of the job. And I'm not gonna co host with some square. That's like admin dude. You're like, yeah, man, you should really, you know, support the admin. And we. I'd be like, hey, dude, sorry man, I can't help you out. Like, I can't do nothing with you. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't surround myself with somebody who wasn't a, that a good cop. I can't. That's the easiest way for me to say. Just like at work, I didn't hang out with shitty cops. I didn't go around with shitty cops. I wouldn't want to be associated with somebody who doesn't align with the same type of policing that I also did. So make fun of it. That's what we did. We went in there, made fun of it. Some other people going at it, but I think it's, I think it's behavior, it's typical cop behavior to talk from behind. Never put your face out there, name out there. And then they'll say, well I can't man, because you know I'll get in trouble. But I'm really fighting. Yeah, I'm fighting a good fight. Like you and I, you and Reagan. I talked about one of our first episodes on counterculture was all these guys that you do do the 25 years and then you come back and tell everybody how bad it was and how all the things you should have done. No. Well, we did it like I started doing it three years before I left and got canned and thrown out of the building pretty much. And you were on your way out. They were hated what you did because you were telling the truth about the job. But what do we do? We both retired on our own terms and then started a platform for other cops and other blue collar Americans to come get informed and get help and have a community. So you're a piece of dude. That's all I can tell you. Antihero. What's that?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Somebody said totaler. Probably got in the B business.

[Michael Dilks]

Everybody wants to hate masculine men but also want to hide behind us like you know, meat shield and blame. I agree, I agree. 100 total buses now. They didn't take a shot at me. Like when you were spot who ran the armory? When I was swat, we kept our own weapons. So we had an arm. We had a locker with like we had 250 cows, we had 250 cal sniper rifles. We had other, all this flashbangs and all the extra ammos in a locker. But my car was my armory. I kept my, I had a 300 blackout rifle in my car. I had all my laser, all my nods. Everything was in my car. So we kept everything in our car to respond to the scene. There wasn't really an armory in the military and law enforcement. We know who the real ones are. We appreciate that. And I, I Think. I think you see it and you know, Dominic's on a different associate. We've, we've disagree with a lot, but we disagree with the commie too. But we disagree with Dominic and I believe his intentions are right. To get the conversation out there, he said some wild, you know, guys were pushing back. Why didn't you argue with them more about the ticket? The one. There was a lady that got a ticket, she threw it out the window and there was a whole fight. I agree she should go to jail. Like you want to act like a. And he doesn't. He thinks the cops should be prosecuted. I'm not going to scream and yell back and forth with him, but I made my point. I said, hey, this is how it is. And then, you know, we kind of just discussed it. Who would work on our weapons. So we would take them. The arm the company that owned our rifles was in is in this town where I live. So we would just drop them off, they would bring us a new one. If something broke, we would swap it out. And I was an armor for the 320. When we had the 320, I was a Sig 320 armor. So I knew how to make it go off on its own. But I was gonna.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Whatever you just. We have, whenever we have a couple minutes, I was gonna go over Daytona spring break.

[Michael Dilks]

Go ahead.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

All right, so some of you guys. I used to work for Volusia county, which is the date the county that host houses Daytona. And I came in right around the time Sheriff Mike Chitwood came in, who's I think probably nationally known by this at this point for being a crazy go getter. He says bags, but a lot of people don't know this about. Mike Chitwood is when he came in, he said to the news, we are done with warrior mentality. We are going to a guardian mentality. My cops aren't warriors, they're guardians. So he ch. He took down all the signs at the trading academy. He like revamped everything. And so this happened. Well, first, let's look at. Let's look at this. This is an aerial view of shots being fired.

[Michael Dilks]

Looks like, looks like

[Ezo]

kind of Daytona. And you see this right there, bro. What you running from, bro?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Typical response.

[Michael Dilks]

Pause it for a second. How come nobody's swimming? Nobody's in the water.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

So this is what he said before. He said this before spring break. And I remember seeing it going, you better be careful, Sheriff Chitwood, because you're sitting here saying around and find out. But you don't let your deputies around so people around and they find out that you're not going to do anything that hence they do entire city takeovers. And you'll see after this video, he goes, what am I supposed to do? Like, what the hell am I supposed to do? Right? We did what we could. Like, no, your stance on crime now has allowed entire city takeovers on the boulevard, on the beach. And then when these takeovers happen, guess what? You're going to have shootings, right? So this is what he said before spring break.

[Sheriff Mike Chitwood]

What I think spring breakers need to understand is if you come here and you respect our community, we're not going have a problem. But if you come here and you want to be disrespectful, we're going to be just as disrespectful back. We are going to have zero tolerance for traffic violations, zero tolerance for foolery on the beach. If you think you're going to come here and you're going to smoke weed and drink beer, you're getting locked up. If you come here in speed, you're getting locked up. If you come here and you do a dine and dash, you're getting locked up. You come here and create acts of violence, you're getting locked up. There is no breaks. There are no civil citations. Everyone's going to be charged according to. According to state law. So let the word go forth. If you come here and you show your ass, we're going to show ours. And I think it's also important to let parents know because we've had this happen over the years. Make sure you have a full tank of gas at all times if you intend on dropping your kid off and drive them back to Windermere or drive them back to Athens, Georgia. Because if we lock your kid up, you have to come around and get him. Because if you don't go back and get him, we're going to get a warrant and lock you up for child endangerment, child abandonment. So just dropping your spring break off here.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Oh, yes, you're right. Blah, blah, blah. So what that is is he's trying to make his citizens feel good, right? We'll lock you up. Well, you around, you'll find out. And everybody watches. That goes, yeah, right. Until people come around that don't give a about you or the law. So that happens. The, Then the, then the, the shooting happens, right? And this is apparently like the 4 4th shooting in a day or two, right? This is his press conference.

[Sheriff Mike Chitwood]

You hear all this stuff. Oh, they were shooting guns on the beach. That is absolute. There were zero gunshots on the beach because what they were doing was crushing a water bottle to make it sound like a gunshot to stampede the crowd. I was out there. The chief was out there. We were in the middle of it. People might not want to hear this, that everybody who we came in contact with was absolutely polite, and they understood why we were being arrested. So for this weekend alone, we made 133 total arrests.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Look how. Look how he just glazed over that.

[Michael Dilks]

133 arrests of polite people. Polite. A polite crowd of 133 arrests, everybody.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

And what we did was we arrested the people that stayed. We arrested the people that didn't fight back or flee, and we arrested them for dumbass crimes. But there is one video that somebody sent to us this morning that I would like to pull up.

[Michael Dilks]

Just remember, like, these are the people. Like, these people are elected. They're in charge of massive budgets and deputies lives. And the dude, they're up there like Cat in the Hat dude, looking like clowns. Just saying the dumbest. You're telling me a water bottle was heard from a drone? Way up. Get the out.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You ready?

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

So this is it, Daytona.

[Ezo]

Nope. You're gonna go to jail for open

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

container during spring break. Pour it out.

[Ezo]

Are you gonna go to jail for open container? Those are your options.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Options. Here, you can pour it out. No.

[Ezo]

Pour it out.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

No.

[Ezo]

You can pour it out.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

All right,

[Ezo]

stop, stop, stop.

[Michael Dilks]

All right.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Issue so far.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah. Is I went.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I know. You don't know any context. Just issues at all.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah. I mean, it's open container. You can go to jail. So he can choose to take him to jail, so I don't have a problem with that. Okay.

[Ezo]

Get on the ground. What is he doing? What are you doing? Give us the channel. Step back, step back. Stop. Stop. Put your hands behind your back. Hey, stop. Stop playing, bro. Stop. Put your hands behind your back.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Got the cuffs out before.

[Michael Dilks]

Way bad. Yes.

[Ezo]

Put your hands behind your butt, man. What did you t for?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I know, I know.

[Michael Dilks]

The cops are on his wrist now. And his hands on the ground. The cuffs are just there. Go ahead. I'm not gonna say that it's bad. I've seen it.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Two guys can't even get his hands behind his back.

[Ezo]

Do your business.

[Michael Dilks]

Do your business.

[Ezo]

Do your business. Bad.

[Michael Dilks]

Leo taking 11012.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Get back.

[Michael Dilks]

Go back.

[Ezo]

All right, what else? Come on, what else?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

That's crazy, bro.

[Michael Dilks]

Now they got him cuffed in front, So they never got his hands behind him.

[Ezo]

What are we Doing?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

What are you doing, Mike? You drive that thumb right in their armpit until they give you your hand. It's the easy one.

[Michael Dilks]

There's even an easier way

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

around, bro.

[Ezo]

You like being on my back or what?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I was gonna say, dude, what's he doing? This guy's just sitting there like, yo, this cop's sitting on the small of my back.

[Ezo]

Yeah, I'm complying. What are we doing?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Put your hands on your back.

[Ezo]

I can if you let me. If you let me. Smart guy. Dumbass.

[Michael Dilks]

Stupid ass.

[Sheriff Mike Chitwood]

He's trying to.

[Ezo]

He's trying to be. He's trying to be, bro. Weak ass guy. What are we doing? Yeah, you don't even know what. You poured that bottle out and just dropped it, dumb ass.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Get the hood right there.

[Ezo]

Battery.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I didn't see any battery there.

[Michael Dilks]

He threw the cork at him. Like he pan him the bottle of tequila and poured it out, and I think the kid, like, threw the cork or something.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

It's kind of a stretch at me. What?

[Ezo]

When I threw the cork at you. I'm gonna took you out. Dinner. Almost took you out, didn't I?

[Michael Dilks]

I don't care.

[Ezo]

Almost took you out, didn't I?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

What'd he do?

[Michael Dilks]

He just decided to. He was twisting around and Dude's gonna take him to the ground.

[Ezo]

Almost took you out, didn't I? Almost took you out, didn't I?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I don't care.

[Ezo]

Almost took you out, didn't I? Stop, stop, stop.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I love it.

[Ezo]

I almost took you out, didn't I? Cut it the. Out. I'm g.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Why are his handcuffs off?

[Michael Dilks]

I don't know.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Are his handcuffs off?

[Michael Dilks]

No, I think they're still on. They're still on. His hands are behind his back.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

How is he reaching in front of them?

[Tyler]

Like this?

[Michael Dilks]

Is it. Is it to the side? They're very. Sometimes they're very flexible. You know how they reach around us and do smoke cigarettes. He's beating you.

[Ezo]

Why the Is he hitting?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

I don't think those handcuffs are on.

[Michael Dilks]

There you go.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Little distractionary buzz.

[Ezo]

Out right now. Why are you hitting him? Put it out. Cut it out. Why are you hitting him? Why is he hitting him? Why is he hitting him? Why is he. Cut it out. Why? Why? What's going on, man? Off of me. I'm not on your neck. I'm on your.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You know what he's doing? He's rubbing his face right in that car.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

He wants to keep talking. All he has to do is stop talking and comply.

[Michael Dilks]

Oh, just stop talking here we go.

[Ezo]

Get off my head. Cut it out.

[Michael Dilks]

Stop talking.

[Ezo]

Get off my head until you stop my health. Get off my head. Get off. Get the. Run it out. Get off. Get off. Get off. Hey, you know what you're doing, man? Get the off of me,

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

right?

[Ezo]

Do you know what the you're doing?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You got all the ratchet hyenas in there.

[Ezo]

What you doing? What you doing? Hey, use your feet. Use your feet.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

What he do? What he do then?

[Michael Dilks]

Dude, they're just beating the brakes off him at this point, in my opinion.

[Ezo]

He just shot back at him.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

What?

[Ezo]

He just. What?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

He's getting the car.

[Michael Dilks]

He. He hits the door.

[Ezo]

I am complying. I'm complying. What are you doing?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

That was awesome.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, that was awesome.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

That was a good video.

[Michael Dilks]

So there was a couple questions in there. 1. So in Florida, the open container is. It's. It's pro and is an ordinance. It's an arrestable offense. So he could have took him to jail or he could write him a criminal citation. Sl nta. So somebody asked that and he has a right to arrest.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

A lot of times, a lot of times there things like spring break, those are easy arrests to make. So when Sheriff Chitwood gets to go, we made 133 arrests. It's things like that. It's a one off guy. Most likely, I would say most likely, I don't know. He was just on the side of the road drinking.

[Michael Dilks]

It was in like a plaza. That was Daytona Beach Police Department, though. That wasn't the sheriff's office, I would imagine. The black chief came out. The black. The black chief came out and. And said that he had a huge problem with the video. And it was under review. Officers on admin leave.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Of course he did. I think they got.

[Michael Dilks]

They got the cell phone video that hasn't been released yet. I think they. The cell phone video was what they saw first. But I mean, dude, you know, I have no. I've made me. And Ezo broke this one down and of course he's, you know, shoot the cops and all crazy. I don't have a problem with the arrest. Like, if you want to drink an open container in public and you want to be a dick bag about it, I'm taking you to jail. I've done it 100 times. Like, all right, stand up. Once they're cuffed, man, it just. You gotta. That's where it kind of gets. You got to be careful these days, man. It ain't the 2000s and 90s where you just can't do it anymore.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

But you're using the same. You're using a different model of apprehension for the same model. That's actually a worse model or more combustible model of criminal. So when you had spring break 20 years ago, that's how you handled it. You beat the out of everybody. You arrested the out of everybody. You showed police presence and you made them go, I don't want to go to jail. I don't want that cop to beat the. I don't want all five of them to beat me up.

[Michael Dilks]

So I just.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You try to do this, you got

[Michael Dilks]

to get them in the car, dude. My problem is the lack of, like, it's. The cops are playing into the back and forth, and it's cool. I used to talk a lot of the back and forth. Banter, though, though, continues to provoke the situation. He's cuffed. You won't. You won, dude. He's going to jail. His. He's not hanging out the rest of the night. He's going to jail maybe for two or three hours. It's all. By the time he's processed. You won. And I say this as an older cop. I wasn't always like that. But now with, like, looking through the eye, I got it in my time hop is like an IA from 2021, where I ripped a guy out of the back of a van and threw him across the side of the road because he wouldn't get out of the van. And I think back, it's like, I didn't have a problem with it. Now it's like, do I really want to deal with it, though? Would I want to deal with that again?

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

He tried getting him in the car.

[Michael Dilks]

I did, I did. I tried everything. I did. And he tried to bite my flashlight and all that cool stuff. I get it.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

No, no, I'm saying those guys were trying.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, they should have. They should have just kept trying, like. Like to go back to the ground. To go back.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

You're saying not take him to the ground again?

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah, the head driving that. You're never going to win an argument when you're driving anybody's head into the pavement, looking like you're kind of issuing some torture, group pain, compliance to the. I don't have a problem with the arrest. I don't have a problem with most of it. Just once you're on the ground, you start elbows to the back of the head for long periods of time and dragging his face across the concrete. I get it. I get it. He's a piece of. I'm not Just saying the kid's not a piece of. But that is the one area. Would you want to be that guy? Would you want to be that guy? Right now? That's the way I look at it. It's the easiest thing for me going, all right, that's me. I'm sitting at home right now. It's been three days. I'm on admin leave, and do I want to go now that I've had time to think about, do I go? Yeah, Even my ia, you know. Yeah, I probably could have done a few.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Here's the thing, too, is that these cops, they think they're un. Like, and I'm not saying this like, look, the cops are on. I'm saying like, these poor guys go out there and they think they're gonna up for their sheriff, their chief. Hey, no, no. Spring break around, find out where the police and you go actually put in work. You get your admin going, oh, that looks bad. And we're going to put them on. Even if nothing comes of it, they'll go, hey, once the media's done, you're back. Don't worry about it. They don't have your back. So you go out there, you put in that work, you risk getting injured, you risk getting killed, you risk your job for them to go, well, we didn't like how that looked. Yeah, you guys want to go out there.

[Michael Dilks]

You also, you also have a lot of input into how it look like. I get what you're saying, and in most cases, I think you're right. Like, I believe most agencies take a very soft, too soft approach. This one's on the fence, though. That's where I get it. I like, I think, would I want to be, you know, would I want to do that and. Or what? I want to be involved in that. So it's. I get it, though. There are, or there's a lot of. I don't know if this is the one to die on that hill on, but you are correct when you say they tell you to go raise hell, go the hood, we got your back. And then it's like, well, we. We did have your back, but not anymore. Like, that's the, like the guy in Pennsylvania, the guy that arrests the politician's husband. Like, hey, man, we got your back.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, when you've been doing this job long enough, you're driving, it's two in the morning or whatever time that was, and you see homeboy on the side of the road with the open container, and you're just like all of that Goes to your head. Yeah. You're like, is it worth it to get out? A young cop doesn't have that experience and goes, give me the container or you're going to jail and all that stuff. And after this happens to you 10 times and you don't lose your job, you got scars from surgeries and injuries, you're just like, dude. And then all of a sudden, now you're the lazy cop. And it's just. It. It. This is what we talk about all the time. This is the story that writes itself.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Michael Dilks]

Now I get it. I, I, I. I will tell you, like, because Dom was totally against the open container. I said, dude, I was like, listen, man, there's dudes that beat drug cases. There's dudes that beat homicide. And I saw that motherfucker with open beer on the side of the road. That motherfucker's going to jail. And that. You can call me crooked if you want, but that's just. It's a crime. So do I have discretion? Yup. Would I arrest every single person for open container? Absolutely not. But there are times when people got to go to jail. So it's like, yeah, open container is

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

one of those ones where you go, my bad, officer. Thank you so much. I'm pulling up. I'm out of here. Yeah, let me get your ID real quick. Make sure you got no wars. You're not wanted. Right. You know, it's that easy. You got any. You know, times have changed since I started.

[Michael Dilks]

Yeah. That guy dictated that problem. That guy throwing the cork. Whatever he did, if he would have been like, yup, my bad. Like, when you're wrong, you're wrong. And it goes back to the ticket video with the lady fighting about the littering. Most of these videos, most of them, the high, high percent, the violator or the suspect causes the reaction. Now, we have to control our reactions, and we have to be professional to. Of course. But if in the perfect world, if the dude's like, hey, sir, I apologize. Yep, I got a bottle, patron. Matter of fact, I'm gonna pour it out for you. I'm gonna go throw it in there. I bet he does that. The dude doesn't even ask for his id. I bet if he goes, you know what, sir? My bad. I'm gonna go throw it in the garbage. He might be like, all right, dude, later. I would. I probably would if I didn't know who he was and think I'd probably be like, appreciate the respect, dog. Take care. Get my car and drive away. Maybe he's got a murder warrant. I'm a dumbass that night. But you create that man. This man. You do it and you're done. Right there, dude. You're okay. I'll do it. Matter of fact, I'm gonna do it while you're in handcuffs now and then, you know, that's just normal policing. To me. That's standard policing. And I always told the criminals, man, the good criminals, the good drug dealers and the good criminals, you don't know who they are. They keep their mouth shut. Yes or no, sir? Off you go. They're smart. So. All right, I'm gonna wrap this one up and get the other one.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, dude, let's. Let's jump on over to Patreon. All right, guys, you have it? Oh, go ahead.

[Michael Dilks]

Good. You tell them if you haven't subscribed

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

to Patreon, we're gonna jump off here and we are going to go to a Patreon exclusive, one that is accessed through our Patreon, where we kind of. We're going to talk about. I've got, like seven topics to talk about.

[Michael Dilks]

And if you're in there, don't forget you're. You'll see the link. When you click the link in Patreon, There's a little YouTube picture in the bottom of the link. You click that, it takes you to the private YouTube link and you're back in YouTube commenting. I'm gonna go live in Patreon real quick as soon as we end this to remind everybody that the link is there so that guys don't miss it because they might have forgot. It's coming up. But be good with them. We'll see them and we'll see you guys in 15, 10 minutes or so. Eight minutes.

[Dominic (Dominic Ozone)]

Yeah, probably five or 10 minutes.

[Sheriff Mike Chitwood]

Okay.

[Michael Dilks]

All right, we'll see you guys.