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Host Mike
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Co-host Jake
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Host Mike
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Co-host Jake
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Audience Member
Wow.
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Co-host Jake
I am clearing the rest of the day.
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Host Mike
Disney and Pixar's Hoppers now available on Disney. Rated pg and the anti hero broadcast is back with a little bit of a delay. There's always an audio issue or something going on. It has nothing to do with anything that comes out of nowhere and throws us for a loop. But we're back. We got. We're just gonna do a little we told you so segment talk Russia, Ukraine talk, the never ending deals in Iran and Trump and all types of good stuff today.
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Co-host Jake
No new wars. The war is over they say. But is it?
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Host Mike
You're at the end to our broadcast. We'll say what you can. The information provided by the speakers and presenters on the anti air broadcast platform is for general informational and entertainment purposes only. Information does not represent the broadcast network and all entities involved. All information is provided in good faith. However, we make no representation or warranty of any kind, express or implied regarding the accuracy, adequacy, validity, reliability, availability or completeness of this information. Hurt feelings is not defamation. JV Team For Life Good morning, good evening, good afternoon. It is Thursday, June 18, 2026. The entire broadcast is a news entertainment broadcast for veterans, first bonders and all blue collar Americans. We go live every day Monday through Friday 1pm Eastern Standard Time on YouTube, Facebook and X. So if you like us please click that subscribe button. Tell the algorithm we don't suck. This show is brought to you by Ghostbed. Go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero. Save 10 on their already ridiculously low prices, pillowcases, mattress toppers, cooling patented technology sheets and the reward winning mattresses 60, 000 5 star rating and reviews in house customer service and free shipping on those big ass mattresses. So if you got to Replace something in the bedroom. Go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero. Save 10%. It'll tell them that we sent you. And elevated silence. Go to elevated silence.com. use promo code ANTIRE15. Save 15 on your suppressor. They have cans from everything from 22s to 50cals. Exercise, right? Get yourself a suppressor. The process is not that hard and Jim will walk you through it. Elevated silence dot com. Use promo code ANTI HERO15. Say 15.
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Co-host Jake
Straight to the can.
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Host Mike
Huh? Straight to the can. Kicking it off with a super chat from Clint. I'm with Tyler. PTSD service animals are.
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Co-host Jake
You know what's not though? What's not is Patreon. Don't forget to join our Patreon. That's where it goes down. Exclusive events. It's be gonna to pop up on the screen any minute that I'm talking about Patreon. So don't forget to join the antihero broadcast. Patreon. We don't cook broccoli, but we do post stuff up up there. Secret meetings, secret meetups. So don't forget to join the patreon. That's the two tiers. If you want to be a super OG, you join the anti hero app.com. the ant.com is where it really goes down. Yeah, I posted my run in there. We can post video. All the OGs are in there. There's no deli, but it's the closest thing you can get to a deli with actually being, without actually being in the deli is being in the OG chat at the antihero app.com. which also you've been doing the Discord. So tell them about the Discord.
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Host Mike
The Discord's where you go if you're new to the. If you're new to the show, you want to join the 99. The 99 is what we call all of our supporters. It's us, me and Mike are the 99. Everybody's the 99. Which average dudes doing extraordinary work in life. But it's a good time. But to get to know these guys, everybody's in the Discord every night off, joking. It's a good time. We stream stuff. We stream USC fights, we stream sports events. So if you're kind of new, if you're a listener, you're a follower and you're like, I kind of want to join up with these dudes, but I don't know what's going on. The Discord is the best place to start. So go to Discord. GG invite, counterculture and you'll be in there with the boys.
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Co-host Jake
No daycare.
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Host Mike
Wow. So I, I texted you yesterday and said you should work for TKO because.
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Co-host Jake
Right.
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Host Mike
Was that right? What? Dude, you couldn't have been any more right? And I. Again, all the people that talked us and said how stupid we were, I'm happy for them because this is exciting for them. So this is. This was released yesterday from Logan Paul's podcast. Now, Logan Paul is directly tied to the WWE through Logan Paul's a wrestler.
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Co-host Jake
He wrestles. He's a champion. He's one of their guys, right? Wwe.
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Host Mike
So he did what people didn't know, I guess. Or really what people I guess wasn't mainstream news when Strong Strictly did this is that Logan Paul was doing an on set podcast with this new broad that's always next to Dana White, doing USC commentary or not commentary during the fight. But she's a, She's a field interviewer type person. And if you look closely up here, you'll see a WWE watermark. I'm not saying Sean Strickland's going to the WWE by any means, but this goes to show you that TKO is putting the USC in the WWE framework. So let's watch this.
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Co-host Jake
Oh, Sean. Do we call him? There he is.
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Audience Member
No way.
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Host Mike
Oh, it's.
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Co-host Jake
What, what timing. What timing? Crowd, stay where you are.
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Host Mike
Let this man in. Oh, that's got to be Sean Strickland.
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Co-host Jake
Oh, it's like. God, look at this. Look at the timing. What do they say? Can you imagine that the, the, the, the. Chances it took that they called Sean Strickland at the exact moment he was walking in? How crazy, dude. But I, I grew up with Sean. I've known Sean since I was negative 13 years old. We. We swam together in the, in, in the balls of our future fathers. And we got to know each other very well. And I know him very well. He would never stage an event. He would never do that. He's a, He's a maniac. He would never do that.
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Host Mike
Looks like everyone's got a eat crow because it looks like Sean Strickland played right into the job, right into a WWE ring. I mean, and I think what might, what might upset a lot of people is I think they think the real strong Sean Strickland would say absolutely not to a WWE style job. But he didn't. Stupid. And I'm happy he did.
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Co-host Jake
He's not stupid. He's not stupid. Money talks. And you know what? There's really nothing wrong with anything he did. I think he's Great. Didn't change my opinion on him. I think it was excellent. I just. It smelled a little fishy, right? It was like, you know, and I think Dana White was in it now for sure. Dana White was in on it. The whole thing was a job, a work, whatever they call it. Nick yelled at me. It's not called a job. It's called a job. I think is when you lose to somebody in wrestling, like you job for them, it's a work or whatever the hell they call it. But it was a skit and excellent skit. Got everybody talking. But we were right. Where's all those check marks at now?
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Host Mike
Well, even if that female USC fighter, she might have just been playing into it, like, duh, he just went to spar with fans. What are you talking about?
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Co-host Jake
Maybe until they drop this real. But again, I don't want this to be like, we're at war with Sean Strickland. We love him. I think he's great. Great fighter, but it just looked staging it. It was cool. It was cool. It looked good. And I'm a WWE fan, so. When I really thought Stone Cold Steve Austin got arrested when I was a kid and I thought, yeah, I thought, you know, I thought that was all real. And so he's gonna break out of
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Host Mike
jail and come back and stun Vince McMahon.
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Co-host Jake
Look, he blew up at the limo. There's. Oh my God, Vince is dead. Like there was one. What was the one? There was one skit that he had to break. I forget what it was. Something had to be broken. Oh, it was when Owen. I believe the Owen Hart death caused a work that they were going to do. They were gonna have Vince McMahon get killed and like act like he was dead. I remember watching the documentary and because Owen Hart died, they were like, yeah, we're not doing any death skits at this point because it was tragic. But, you know, they were going to take it that far to think that a guy got killed or they were, you know, blowing people were blowing up in cars. And then next week they're on a four wheeler. Amazing. But no, you know, in 2026, that's about as close as you can get to really pulling one off at this point. Yeah, because there's just so much that goes into, like, you know, when they bring wrestlers back, they literally have to like fly them in, put a bag over them and like sneak them in the building, like to even get close to like getting them in. Then you'll look at the crowd and somebody will be holding a sign up that says, welcome back, Stone Cold. And you're like, how the. Did he know? So good stuff and that.
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Host Mike
And that was before the Internet. That's how. That's how dedicated those fans were. Is that before the Internet? They knew when comebacks were coming. Now it's impossible. If the Rock posts of just a photo anywhere near the city that WrestleMania, then people are like, well, the Rock's going to wrestle.
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Co-host Jake
It's just almost. You'd have to fly it on a private jet, have them sworn the secrecy, like, take a car.
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Host Mike
They can't post anything.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, it's. You know. Yeah, it's. It would be almost impossible. Some of the biggest comebacks now are even tipped off. But good stuff, like I said, it was. It was. It was good work, but it wasn't.
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Host Mike
Wasn't real, you know, and we talked about the marshals being being utilized in this skit, and, you know, that's a fun job. I think that'd be a really fun job. You're a U.S. marshal. And they're like, hey, we're gonna do this. You know? Yeah, okay. It's fun. I'm working the USC 250. The job may vary based on. Based on where you're a Marshall. So this is going to segue into the video that I wanted to play that you found yesterday, but we totally forgot or didn't have time. Marshalls and other parts of the country are actually.
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Co-host Jake
Oh, God. Dealing with. They're dealing with a little bit more, huh?
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Host Mike
Yeah. So this was the. The Marshalls in Minnesota.
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Co-host Jake
It's the Minnesota Federal Courthouse in Minnesota. Look at this.
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Host Mike
It's gonna. It's doing the thing that Reels do. Right. You can take down that chiron. It's doing the thing that Reels do. Or they're going to show you the. The best part first. And it's going to go back to the beginning. But it looks like courthouse officials. This is a federal courthouse. Are going to close up shop and can't get the doors closed, and they move into Marshalls.
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Co-host Jake
Looks a lot like an insurrection. Yeah, takeover, right? Like a government federal building. Go ahead.
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Host Mike
Who knows, man? It might be a job, but here's the video of the boys in the marsh.
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Co-host Jake
That was it. I'm sorry, Sub. Sub, before you go, I was wrong. It was. Vince blew up in the limo. He was going to be dead. And then the Chris Benoit murder suicide happened. I knew it was something around a tragedy. Oh, yeah, yeah. They did a job that Vince was blown up in limo. He was gonna die. And then Benoit went off The Rails killed his family.
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Host Mike
Didn't they blow up Vincent Limo and kill him?
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, they did. They did. They blew it up. And Vince was supposed to be dead. I knew it was something like that. Vince was supposed to be dead, and then Benoit killed his family and himself. And they had to come out and like.
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Host Mike
Oh, like real. Like in the same exact time that happened.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, it was like, right the next week. Yeah, that's what it was. I knew it was something along those lines. My memories faded at 50. Anyway, here you go. Federal courthouse.
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Host Mike
So this is the beginning. Courthouse security is trying. The federal courthouses are trying to shut the door. Sam. He gives them the old give back. Yeah. Now, if you're a professional protester, you got to know when to throw in the towel. As soon as the jack dude in the plate carrier and gas mask goes like this to the dude without the gas mask. I'd probably step away at that point.
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Co-host Jake
Sa. Well, those middle fingers hurt, don't they?
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Host Mike
All right, so dude sitting there filming with two phones just to make sure he gets everything. Did you see that guy get thrown like a rag doll out of the picture? Like, he got thrown so hard and so fast, he disappeared like. Like a bungee was tied to him and they cut it and it pulled him backwards like in an action movie.
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Co-host Jake
Stage hook, I used to call it. You got the stage hook like the. Like the kid. Like the cartoons, that is. You know, I just. I can't get behind that. Like the federal building, Everybody. You know, January 6th and entering and all that. I. I mean, there's a way to peacefully protest. And I'm sure the commie will have some spit on this. A bunch of landless peasants that, you know, fighting for America or whatever they're doing, their rights. I just. You have to maintain some semblance of order. You can't do it this way. Like, you just can't.
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Host Mike
I love watching this clip.
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Co-host Jake
I love watch picks it back up. And what happens when his hand blows off? Like, it's stupid, man. Old lady out there. Old, old lady out. We're yelling in Spanish too, right?
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Host Mike
I think so.
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Co-host Jake
Double, double middle fingers. That.
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Host Mike
The marshalls would be such a cool job, dude. Obviously, those aren't courthouse marshals. Those are whenever you gotta. When you do. When you become a U.S. marshal, you gotta. You gotta do your time in court security, which.
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Co-host Jake
Well, usually not. Usually it's all done. Usually it's the old guys. The old guys get it after they're done doing this.
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Host Mike
No, dude, court security is your first station, your first Station as a court.
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Co-host Jake
Young, young guy.
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Host Mike
I've never, I've never seen one of my best friends. He's the most jacked marine you'll ever met. Had to go do court security. And you can, and you can get out quick, but you're at needs of the marshals. So if you're in dc, which most of them are stationed in DC in the courts and then they're like, hey, we have a task force position available, but it's in Idaho. If not,
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Co-host Jake
what a joke. Like, I mean, you can't do that at the courthouse. You can't do that. No, you just can't. It's, it's.
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Host Mike
You just can't.
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Co-host Jake
You just can't do it. It's not. Doesn't make sense.
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Host Mike
I just wouldn't with the federal courthouses, man. That's not your county kicker courthouse dude. That's the federal courthouse.
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Co-host Jake
Well, I mean, and it's, it's. I don't know, I don't even know how to do it. I know JD Vance went on the View and he held his own answering questions about this stuff. But you still have to have law and order, man. I don't care what anybody says. You, whatever, you know, you just can't. We like we talked yesterday, with drones being built and criminals here and there can't have open borders. You can't just let anybody. And I had it, you know, I had a Hispanic lady ask me at Publix, who knows what I'm. My next venture is. And I said, and she agreed. She's like, I said you have to come in legally. Like you have to. And she said, yeah, I agree. Where it gets a little sticky for me is like, you know, your parents can't. Kids that are born here and their parents decide to come and now it's like these separate families or kids in third or fourth grade.
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Host Mike
And well, that's why it's important to not have children illegals here.
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Co-host Jake
Because I get it, I get it. If you start at the very beginning of the, of the, of the steps, step one is come legally and then there's no issue. Obviously people didn't do that. And then you look at like a fourth, fifth grade kid, mom and dad came elite, they'd never been arrested. There's just some things I think that I would look at if I was, if I had a magic wand and you know, non criminal didn't, other than the entering illegal, which is a crime. I'm not, I'm not saying it's okay, but once you're detained. You go, okay, never been arrested. Non criminal, has a house, rent, car, job, kids are in school. It's like, what do we do now? Like, maybe there's something in between there that could help expedite. Now, if they're criminals and they've been doing criminal stuff, then I have no problem. But I do. I can see.
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Guest Ryan
I can't see.
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Co-host Jake
I would never get to the point of protesting a courthouse and trying to break in, but I could see where I go. This is tough because, you know, good people are good people. Now, again, the flip side is they came in illegal.
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Host Mike
You think they have a right to protest outside the courthouse like they do. They just don't have the right to.
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Co-host Jake
No, they're right. No, they can. They can. They can protest. That's part of our first amendment. Absolutely. You can protest. You just can't.
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Host Mike
Do you know if federal courthouses have different guidelines as far as, like, the county courthouse? Obviously, you can stand out there and pick it all day, but I don't know if the federal courthouses have.
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Co-host Jake
I think they're all the same. You can't be armed in any of them. I know cops as a. As a cop, I could walk into our courthouse armed. As a cop, you can't. They won't let you in a federal courthouse armed unless I. When I was sworn as a marshal, I could do it as a marshal, like, carrying credentials as a u. S. Marshal, but as a cop, even county deputy on the task force before being sworn in, they wouldn't let me unarmed. I'd leave my guns in the car. So. But as far as standing out on the pie, the sidewalk is a sidewalk, dude. The public property is public property. So.
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Host Mike
Yeah, I mean, not. Jake said, when you arrest a citizen for a crime, they are separated from their family.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, and I get. That's the republican answer that everybody likes to throw out there. I get it. Like, you get a dui, you're separate. I'm talking about, like, forever.
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Host Mike
He also said you're loosening your butthole for Ryan.
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Co-host Jake
Not just. I have a brain, and I know a lot of these guys don't have those brains. They have meat in the deli, but they don't have brains. And there's some things.
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Host Mike
They have it where it counts, man.
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Co-host Jake
The very. The very simple argument of separating fans Mike riled up.
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Host Mike
Now we don't have any more.
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Co-host Jake
That is. That is fine. That is. DUI is illegal too, Jake. I bet you've done that a few times. You're gonna go turn yourself in for DUI or anything else.
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Host Mike
He was separated from his family for approximately 12 hours.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah. Drinking at the bar. So, so yes, that argument, that separating families. Yes. Any arrest will separate you from your family. I'm talking about just your, like, here's
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Host Mike
the thing is we give kids the right to pick their identity. Can we give the kids the right to stay in the country without their parents? I know I'm being facetious.
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Co-host Jake
I know the problem is finding a family member.
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Host Mike
We can't ask an adolescent if they want.
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Co-host Jake
You got to find a family member that's legal. So I get that legal, illegal argument and that, yes, I agree, coming in the country is illegal. Can't do it. We should stop it. But just like every other thing that's illegal, like there's sometimes when you like, hey, this guy, you know, he's got no license. Do, do you take every person to jail that doesn't have a license? No, we don't.
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Host Mike
My name is Roberto.
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Co-host Jake
I, I, I'll be honest, man. I was very sympathetic to, but, and this was, I didn't let me make this very clear before Trump's absolute, everybody goes, I didn't work the road, so I wasn't involved in any of this that's going on now. It was very lenient back when I was there. I was under Biden my last couple years. So it was very, there was no immigrant. You didn't call them, they didn't take anybody. But when I see a guy and he's like, yeah, he's hard working dude. And you know, he's here and you're like, oh, you know, he's gotten a, gotten a license, but he got a lawn business working. It's like, dude, it's a, it's a tough situation. And if you're down for like, Mike,
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Host Mike
when you, when you lit up, we went up by 20 viewers. Coincidence? I think not.
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Co-host Jake
But you make, you want me to start screaming some more. But, you know, it's a common sense thing. Every crime, we all talk about discretion and how many we got. Cops all the time talk about letting people go for DUI driving a 5,000pound vehicle down the road. Everybody's in danger of that DUI from the second he left the bar, the second you pulled him over, he could have killed a thousand people. Then we go, hey, DUI and the buddy, just get in the car, let's go. You know, they came in illegal.
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Host Mike
So it's so crazy because I have to ask you, I mean, I want to ask you, but I can't Ask you at the same time, what is, what is your take on? I feel like I'm a little confused on. Do you think illegals should be here or not?
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Co-host Jake
No. They have you. No, you have to enforce it. That's what I'm saying. It sucks. But you have to enforce illegal immigration, you have to enforce the border. I was asked this by Dom, I think the other night when he was drilling me. And I believe in the rules, constitution, you can't come in illegally. But when I'm looking at one, they're here. And maybe they came in 20 years ago, 16 years ago, 12 years ago, whatever it may be. And then you come across an illegal. That's where I think that even Jerry says some common sense goes into how do we navigate this? The easy answer, like everything else is okay. They. Everybody goes. Okay, everybody goes. And I want all cops to go. From now on, everybody goes. Every shoplifting, every trespassing, every dui, everybody goes. That's what we're doing. If we're not, then I look at.
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Host Mike
Go ahead, would you. I always thought this was a plan that we knew wouldn't work because it's an ideal. It's more of an idea and there's no set ground rules or anything. But I, I think most of the country was okay with kind of low key going hard working illegals. We're not going to focus on, we're going to focus on the criminals. And it feels like they did such a good job roping up all the criminals that when they hit the portion of them that became kind of hard to find, there was a large body of government work that was like, so what do you want us to do?
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Co-host Jake
We're paying all these guys.
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Host Mike
Yeah. Well, let's start, let's start hitting up the lawn care service.
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Co-host Jake
Guys like go to Home Depot.
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Host Mike
So like, that idea to me, I feel like was. And a good feeling for everybody. Like, everybody on the same page. They were like, well, yeah, we want the, the violent ones gone, but we don't want. Because when you can sit there and think about, I don't want, I want no illegally illegal aliens in my country. But then if you're like, well, do you want. Hey, Eli, can you turn down Mike's mic? I think it got skyrocketed by itself.
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Co-host Jake
Oh yeah, yeah.
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Host Mike
But I feel like, there you go. Little. What's a, what's an old lady? What's an old Hispanic lady's name? No, that's your grandma. Abuela.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah.
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Host Mike
Okay, grandma Little, Little Abuela sitting there knitting. Who happens and then you like, hey, do you want Ice to kick in her door and drag her out, throwing her detention facility and throw her back in Mexico? Like, well, I don't want that to happen. But I mean I think America does. That's where everybody kind of, you have to be kind of like a little heartless to go, nope, she goes too. And everybody like wants it to happen, but doesn't want to like own it or face it or know that they even think that they would think that if that makes sense.
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Co-host Jake
Oh, look at this, this comment. This is an interesting one because this is where I get a little bit. This is where the left and the right play their schematics. We're getting, we have people killed every day. I got, I got a story of a dude, white guy, white, male American that killed a two year old baby that we're going to talk about later. But then, you know, then you can throw this up. There is that, you know, every time, you know, it's over emphasized when you see something that an illegal immigrant does, all. How about this? Just like all we screamed and yelled as white people for how long that all lives matter, right? All lives matter. Well, all criminals are criminals. So when it's highlighted that it's, it's just an illegal, an illegal immigrant. I get it, I get it. They shouldn't be here. So it shouldn't have happened. I get it. We still have regular old white dudes killing people every single day. Every single day. Domestic violence, drug dealing, it, it's still here. So it's not like you eliminate illegal immigration and all crime stops. That's kind of what is spun up sometimes. So very clear. Illegal immigration, is that illegal? The border should be secured. People should have to come in the country the right way 100%. I agree with that across the board. But just like every other crime, because you've done it and I've done it. There's common sense or discretion used when we investigate or we enforce it. So if that's the case like we're talking about, then every single person should be arrested every time they commit a crime. There should be no discretion. Or you say let's look at like again these, you know, who is this guy? Who is this guy? Come on. Anybody know in politics knows that if you're friends of the important people in the community, you're getting, you're not going to jail. I don't care if you're illegal or not. If you're somebody important that's donating money, you're not going back To Mexico. You're not going anywhere. Just like you're not going to get arrested for a crime. So then if that's the case, then I think you look at. Sometimes you have to look at the whole totality of the circumstances and say so in.
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Host Mike
More importantly, when I asked the 99 what's a good name for an old Mexican lady? Here is what came through. Abuela Maria. Another Maria. Roberta Lupe. Guadalupe.
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Co-host Jake
Okay.
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Host Mike
El Aldo.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, that's a good one. Del Taco.
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Host Mike
Del Taco. Del Grando Grande. And Marta. That's a good one.
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Co-host Jake
Margarita.
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Host Mike
Margarita. The comments started coming in like they don't care what we're talking about anymore. Nick Chick says who?
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Co-host Jake
Who they get the laugh from?
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Host Mike
The lamb.
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Co-host Jake
The land.
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Host Mike
The land.
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Co-host Jake
Then founding. The founding stock Americans came from where? England. And they annihilated the Indians, right? Now what Orion tells us, and then that became our land. Okay, so there's a really a founding stock, like a founding stock American.
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Host Mike
There's no way Nick Champ wrote this.
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Co-host Jake
No, he.
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Host Mike
Founding stock Americans, which I don't even know what that even means. Conquer the North American content for themselves and their progeny. What? The progeny. And they did it all without an old Mexican lady cooking.
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Co-host Jake
So I guess if you're. If you're an Indian, let's. I'll play devil's advocate. So you're an Indian and you're like, man, we don't want any illegals in here. They have a great. They have a great concept, right? We don't want any illegals in. And a bunch of illegals came in and killed them all and took their land. Which is why you guys don't want any illegals here. The same thing that was happened once already is the same reason people don't want.
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Host Mike
I mean, dude, this is.
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Co-host Jake
You gotta have some.
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Host Mike
You gotta have Ryan. I don't have ryan scheduled till 2:15, but I hear him now.
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Co-host Jake
I'm just saying, like you, that's where I'm talking about the. The art. You gotta be careful what you argue. You're basically saying it was okay for us to kill everyone and take over the continent and now that we've established ourselves, no one else can come in. That's.
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Audience Member
Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
Kind of contradictory.
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Host Mike
So what are you saying?
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Co-host Jake
Saying that you. You have to be careful what you argue. Like you have to have. You have to take. No, you have to take. You have to use common sense. That's what I'm saying. If I'm a cop, if we started arresting every single person tomorrow for every minor Offense every week.
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Host Mike
If you run a no tolerance across
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Co-host Jake
the board, that was not forward, that was sideways. That was sideways.
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Host Mike
Were you ever a cop? I don't know if this is an old school cop thing, but when you wanted to make a point, everybody on a six block radius just went, yeah, yeah, absolutely, but that. So there's a point to that they're showing. So maybe that's the same thing we're doing right now. While Trump's in, we're getting everybody out that we can because we know it's going to end and everybody's gonna be able to stay.
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Co-host Jake
But just like when you run, even during that six block, everybody goes to jail. You run into that one. Dude, dog, man, I'm coming from work, my God, my kids, I'm paying child support. I'm doing my best, you know, my license is just. I couldn't make that payment on that thing, man. I'm. And you're like, get out of here, dude. Like it. I don't. If you. We've all done it, so I don't care what anybody says. There's always an exception to the rule and we've all done it. So if we're not going to enforce all the laws within our own border every single day and everyone goes to jail for committing crime, then you can't make that argument. You have to say, okay, I want that. And then when you get arrested for like, well, you get a two million dollar speeding ticket for nine over, you'll be like, damn, dude, I was only going nine over. Hey man, the rules are the rules we're doing across the board. So just. I'm not, this is just for argument's sake too. I'm not saying this is how I really feel. I'm just saying I can see how people can think this way. That you're going zero tolerance here. Let's go. Zero tolerance everywhere. Everywhere, zero tolerance.
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Host Mike
So you're saying you're okay with either one, but it's got to be consistent.
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Co-host Jake
Yep. You do selectively enforce felonies. How do you think informants are cultivated? Absolutely. I've let people walk with bags of cocaine and put, made them informants. And it happens every day in America. Felonies are let to walk. That's how you develop some of your best.
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Host Mike
So we let, we let Maria go. If she tells us where her six gang banger nephews are that are also illegal, we'll let Maria stay. I'm okay with that.
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Co-host Jake
You gotta weigh it right? You gotta wait.
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Host Mike
I also, Edwin and his crew used to cut my lawns. And I don't really want them gone because all they do is cut lawns all day. They don't bother me.
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Co-host Jake
You go for the biggest squeeze. Right? Did you.
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Host Mike
But you know what I'm saying. If I was a blue collar dude just starting a lawn business and I was competing with illegal lawn business or not lawn businesses that utilize illegal immigrants for labor, I would be very pro. Get rid of Edwin and his crew.
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Co-host Jake
That's fine. That's fine. I. And I understand the way that works. But what I'm saying is we. We selectively enforce laws all the time. I mean, did you think the feds take a guy like Jay off and Jay says I can get you to Columbia? You think he's going to jail? You think if he says, I will snitch on every major drug dealer in all of South America. No. He's not even going to get booked. Ever. Never. It's not going to happen. Now, Jay's not like that. But you run into the guy that says, I can get you that guy. We do it every day. I did it my whole career. You get the bigger fish until you can run until you run out of fish. And string, you keep going up to the next fish and you keep going until you run out of bait. So they selectively enforce crimes all the time.
- [34:53]
Host Mike
Judge Dredd was a judge and executioner. Guilty. All right, well, I'm glad we got that out of you.
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Co-host Jake
These guys want. I want to see a bunch of white dudes out cutting grass that'll last a week.
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Host Mike
Peach up in here. You just mix my. My, my Mike. The communist rant.
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Co-host Jake
No, I'm being. I'm just giving a devil's advocate side of everything because, I mean, I get it like it. You know,
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Host Mike
hey, there's no winning on debating. On debating. That's like. There's always going to be a majority of the people.
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Co-host Jake
I agree though, that the basic. You shouldn't. You should enforce the border. And we should not be open border 100. Just like we shouldn't like let drugs in the country. That's never going to stop. But we have a war on drugs, right? Every day there's a war on drugs.
- [36:02]
Host Mike
Know what I was talking to Eli about this morning? He was asking me about the mob and the mafia. And I was explaining to him the. The way humans work and how tribal we are and the social contract theory we live by. Government has never really been able to effectively look after its own the way the mob does. And I was telling him, like, you know, Listen, the mob, you open up a bakery in mob, mob land, they're coming and they're gonna, hey, how's it going? They're going to suggest, not suggest, they're going to tell you in the best way possible that you have to pay a tax for all the services. And it'd be who of you not to? Because the next guy that comes and talks to you about it is just going to be a little bit more direct and say, you got to pay this whether you like it or not. But here's the thing is we talked about when we had the gentleman from the blue collar media group on here, they actually did what they said they were going to do. They'd come. If you had a problem at your store, even if it was the police, they'd come and handle it, and you got that. And it's the same with. It's the same with the cartels. A stable Mexico has always had cartels in it. As soon as you cut the head off one of those cartels, Mexico goes insane because the Mexican government just can't protect the people. And he was asking about Pablo Escobar. And I said, pablo Escobar was loved by the people. Because Pablo Escobar would roll into town and give water lines, build infrastructure, give people money, pay or feed people. And they would be like, I don't care what he does. He helped me. And so.
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Co-host Jake
So it's okay. Crime is okay sometimes, right? And that's what we're getting.
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Host Mike
It was very hard to explain it
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Co-host Jake
to him, but it's. But that's what everybody, Everybody has an exception. They're like, well, but my long guy or my guy, my Mexican friends are good. Like, you know, everybody's got an exception. And everybody has a heart. Well, almost everybody. I'm sure some of these guys have none. But. So it's, It's. I mean, it's just you have to enforce the laws. I, I still agree. Yes. You have to enforce the border. I don't want it. That's not my point. My point is just there's always an exception to the rule. And there's always a way to say, oh, this one, this guy's okay, though, right? Well, why? Because I like them. Right. Oh, you like him. So it's okay.
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Host Mike
Well, it's like your favorite sports player. Like, dude, anybody who's into sports, their guy on their team, in their heart, they get a free pass. They're like, dude, I mean, who doesn't beat their wife because it's your guy on your team. Like it's the most. But I remember I grew up with a guy, my dad's friend and he was the biggest piece of like criminal. But he came out of Virginia Tech and that guy's favorite college. He was a Virginia Tech fanatic every game and they pulled him over and his. And his Humvee is H2. He had his number etched in and he had drugs and dope. And like the guy was like, dude, he's. It was like Corey Mill. I don't know something. He's like, bro, dude, you gotta let him go. He's the guy. And they're like, dude, he's got all kinds of felony charges right here. And it's like it doesn't matter. That bias that you feel because it's my guy,
- [39:24]
Co-host Jake
Everybody's done it.
- [39:25]
Host Mike
Efren gave a super chat a Jupiter chat earlier with a piece of steak for kind of forget what we were talking about.
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Co-host Jake
Somebody asked me about fiber.
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Host Mike
Yes. So a believe I believe it's in the.
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Co-host Jake
The stuff I eat breakfast that mar. The whatever that is. I put my coffee.
- [39:43]
Host Mike
Anything below $4.99 is considered a juper chat. But we will read them.
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Co-host Jake
Austin want what is it bone marrow or what the hell do I eat?
- [39:54]
Host Mike
I don't know.
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Co-host Jake
Broth, bone broth.
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Host Mike
I don't know.
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Co-host Jake
I ate something in the morning. I go to the bathroom right after.
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Host Mike
All right, let's hit up some more topics before break. We've got the Ukraine Russia. Now this is significant because it's the largest attack on Moscow since the start of the war in 2022. Ukraine has launched the largest drone offensive in Moscow in the full scale war and attack damage key oil refiner caused fires set debris raining down across the region. There's nobody no deaths in this that are reported so far. Air defense shot down at least 194 drones bound for the Russian capital overnight into Thursday, according to Moscow mayor. That's far higher than the other days of heavy attacks in recent months when drones only outnumbered in the double digits. The and provides a stark example of Kees dramatically improved drone capability since Russia's full scale invasion of the country began more than four years ago. The barrage was left at least 17 people injured. Was a part of a Ukrainian attack over a broad swath of Russia with Air defense intercepting almost 1,000 drones according to the Russian Ministry of Defense. Flights all major Moscow airports. How many airports does Moscow have? How big is Moscow? I don't know.
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Co-host Jake
It's a big country.
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Host Mike
I know that well, Russia is a country so Probably.
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Co-host Jake
I would imagine a couple. Let me find out.
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Host Mike
I would imagine Moscow is probably the size of one of our states if they've got multiple airports Anyways, temporarily suspended on Thursday, Reuters reported. And we have a 3s. What?
- [41:42]
Co-host Jake
Three major airports.
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Host Mike
Yeah. That means. That means it's got to be big. So check this out. I'm assuming this is a drone getting shot down.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, That's what the gamer guys do all night, right?
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Guest Jay
Yeah.
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Host Mike
How does something like that explode though? Maybe that was Origins that was on there. That was. It was going to be used for offense but when it fell and exploded, the ordinance went off. Because those are electric based, so they don't have gasoline in them or fuel. So that had to have been the ordinance blowing up. If you're listening, we're watching a. Looks like a Ukrainian drone get shot down and land on a house
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Guest Ryan
or.
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Host Mike
Mexico. Russia. Jesus.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, it's definitely not Mexico.
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Host Mike
Yeah, not much in that. It's just a little bit important as it is the biggest offensive on Moscow since the start of the war. The drones are in. Drones are in full swing in this conflict. Tyler is just a big city. Well, I know. I wanted to know where it was at, how big.
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Co-host Jake
So we were. I got a story. We were talking about looking the other way, right. We kind of all do it. So let's see if this. As anybody, right? Humans we go. There are certain things we just go, eh, yeah, it is what it is. Okay, so here's a story which we'll see. I think everybody will probably agree that it's okay to look the other way. We'll see. This is a story of a man named. This man here killed a two year old baby and was sentenced to prison.
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Host Mike
While in prison, is there anything sexual about this offense?
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Co-host Jake
No, just he murdered a kid. I mean not sexual, but he murdered a baby. Like.
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Host Mike
Not that that's any better, but he did.
- [43:42]
Co-host Jake
Three prisoners accused of murdering a child killer and leaving him tucked in bed have refused to give evidence about what happened in the cell. Inmates Mark Fellows, Lee Newell and David Tyler allegedly attacked Kyle Bevin, who was serving life sentence for murdering his stepdaughter in November last year. In an onslaught that lasted five minutes. Leeds county court heard all three defendants had a hostility towards people who committed offenses against children, but that vulnerable prisoners were. Were not separated from other inmates during that. So in a three day murder trial. Give you it so I don't have to read everything and just go through it. What happened here is these three dudes walked in and stabbed this dude like 30 times. But there's no video evidence of the incident. They just got video of them walking in and walking out. They tuck him back in bed and like secure him so the blood stays like within the sheets and doesn't leak out. And then they waked up, they go home. The next morning, they're doing bed check. Dude doesn't get out of bed. They go into bed, he's dead. None of them, none of them take the stand. None of them say anything. So what this article brought to attention was how does a jury convict someone? Do you go, well, they must have all done it. Maybe one did it, maybe two held them down and one did it. Which one actually did it? They have not set, they've nobody said a word. They have all sat there like this and no, no interview with the police, no, no, no nothing. So they have no physical, there's not a stitch of physical evidence. Not a speck of blood was found on either of the three guys. No weapon, no nothing, no DNA. They have, all they have is a five minute window where these dudes walked in and walked out and they've all said, we're not saying a word. What do you, what do you think? I mean, dude killed a two year old kid.
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Host Mike
That's G stuff, man. That's, that's some, that's some code right there, dude. Knowing that you're doing work that the Lord doesn't give you the blessing to do. So let's, let's, let's put that Jesus doesn't want you doing that, but you're doing things that society doesn't really care
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Guest Jay
to
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Host Mike
lose sleep over. Let's just say that. And you did it with two other dudes. And you know in your heart those two other dudes are not going to snitch on you. That's some powerful stuff.
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Co-host Jake
When they finally tr. So they transferred them all out separate. So when one of the dudes was being transferred out, he yelled to the other guy, nice doing work with you. And Iceman, which was the three, the third guy's nickname. So they're using like all this circumstantial evidence against these guys to try to. So it's like, what do you think? These guys are all serving life in prison. My question would be, obviously you have to have some rule, I guess you have to have some rules in prison, right? These are all life sentence guys. These are all guys that are never getting out of jail. Does it behoove the taxpayers to tie a jury up for weeks to hear a trial about a guy who's three guys. I'm never getting out of prison anyway.
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Host Mike
Nope. Okay, that's a great point. And of us of a victim who committed an atrocious crime that society is not going to get behind justice for him either. So unless you got a large family fighting for justice, what justice is there though?
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Co-host Jake
Like your relative killed a two year old baby. He's got life in prison. He's never getting out. Yeah, he was killed by three other murderers who killed regular people, not kids that are never getting out.
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Host Mike
Who killed regular people.
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Co-host Jake
Regular people. So it's like, I mean it's interesting, but I would think every single person in this chat that says we have to enforce all these rules would agree that these dudes get a pass on murder.
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Host Mike
Right? Joe, I'm not reading your comment out loud. You are a savage. Oh God.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, that's bad.
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Host Mike
Tfmo said, I mean we could just let those three out,
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Co-host Jake
but.
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Host Mike
Right.
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Co-host Jake
Am I right? I'm being, you know, I'm just being. But wouldn't most people go, well him, dude killed a baby, he gets, he gets it. So there's, there's a pass all the way up to Mer. There's a pass all the way to the crime as high as murder. But the long guy that's been here 20 years, he's got to go.
- [47:53]
Host Mike
That's what you're saying. Society, we give people passes for murder. Heather says prisoners have more loyalty than most people's own families. That's. Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
I mean you walk in that cage knowing what's going on, I don't think you made a deal. These are hardcore criminals. They are loyal. They're loyal to just being criminals. So when they go, they're loyal to a code. Yeah, the code is you don't get to hurt children and come around here.
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Host Mike
So they took real quick. I mean we joke about this all the time. Can't not mention it though. Trump, go ahead and put that up. Trump and Iran's president sign initial deal to end the war, open the Strait of Hormuz Kaz and ease sanctions.
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Co-host Jake
Some people.
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Host Mike
Is it even worth reading this?
- [48:47]
Co-host Jake
This. Some people are saying this is a worse deal than the Obama deal that everybody made fun of.
- [48:52]
Host Mike
What do you mean
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Co-host Jake
some of the initial. You got to look up the Iran deal.
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Host Mike
I mean I feel like tomorrow we'll be like, hey, and Iran broke the treaty within 12 hours.
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Co-host Jake
Let's see. I know they got a lot of money.
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Host Mike
Who?
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Co-host Jake
Iran.
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Host Mike
They have a lot of money.
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Co-host Jake
They got. You got to look at the breakdown.
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Host Mike
Oh well, what is It. I mean, I thought it was a peace deal.
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Co-host Jake
United States of America and Islamic Republic undertake to respect each other's sovereignty. United States, Iran will negotiate, achieving a final deal in maximum of 60 days. Let me see. They got any numbers here? The United States under attacks. The region's partners develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of Iran. So 300 billion going to Iran to rebuild them. Some of the parts, let me see here. You have to break it all the way down, but that's what like. Like they're getting $300 billion, let's put it that way. One part of the deal is Iran gets $300 billion
- [50:22]
Host Mike
from us.
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Co-host Jake
The United States of America undertakes with the regional partners. So everybody around there develops a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least US$300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism implementation for this plan will be finalized as part of the final deal within 60 days. So I don't know what to tell you other than they're getting $300 billion from people.
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Host Mike
That's insane. Yeah, good. Their tax dollars. Meanwhile, we're beating up liberals outside the federal courthouse.
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Co-host Jake
Don't forget your long guy. Your long guy probably came here 20 years ago, but get rid of him.
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Host Mike
Get out. All right, so we'll cover some of the stuff after. We got a couple more topics. We'll cover after the communist. However, we have Jay from the Life Rap podcast on here.
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Guest Jay
Hey, guys. How's it going?
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Host Mike
What up, Jay?
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Guest Jay
I'm doing all right. It's hot, man.
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Host Mike
So.
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Co-host Jake
It is, yeah.
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Host Mike
Dude, I'm sweating my balls off in here. How come when you film, sometimes you're in a jacket and it looks like it's 60 degrees outside, and now you're saying it's hot?
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Guest Jay
We get like five days, mate, and today is one of those days. And I am sweating my balls off as well.
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Co-host Jake
What's it like, 71.
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Guest Jay
Hey, what's that in real money, mate?
- [51:50]
Co-host Jake
Oh, you don't even know.
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Guest Jay
27 centigrade, I think.
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Host Mike
So Jay's gonna help me host Counterculture Inc. Live tonight as everybody else is either sick or busy or dealing with
- [52:02]
Co-host Jake
74 degrees in England. Golly, man. Struggling, man.
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Guest Jay
And what I find a bit rubbish about that is, is you had to turn to the English guys in England to turn up for the show to night. No other count. Oh, sorry, my language. No other bastard could do that.
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Co-host Jake
No, you can say that.
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Guest Jay
Mr. Dependable always here.
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Co-host Jake
Yeah, there's Some guys that. Never mind.
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Guest Jay
Does his name begin with a G, you think?
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Co-host Jake
Well, no, that guy. Forget it. Other p. Other people were supposed to do the show tonight.
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Guest Jay
Not.
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Co-host Jake
Not G Money.
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Host Mike
But they had tornadoes, Mike.
- [52:39]
Co-host Jake
They only had like five months noticed.
- [52:43]
Host Mike
What are they supposed to do about tornadoes?
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Co-host Jake
I get. I mean, I. I heard that it's possible the sun could explode any moment and that a spaceship could land the space. A spaceship could land on my house tonight. So I'm. You know what, guys? I'm just gonna call it. I'm not gonna be on the night because it could happen.
- [52:59]
Guest Jay
There's meteors going by every day. You might get hit.
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Co-host Jake
Elon Musk is flying rockets back and forth in Florida. They could take a stray. We could take a stray. You never know. It could happen.
- [53:08]
Host Mike
Happen. Somebody said scrub. A man scrub anomic said G Money would say it's 40 chest. We need to ask G Money what his take on this. Paying Iran Money.
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Guest Jay
Just put gone money.
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Host Mike
All right. So you are going to help. Help me host Counterculture Inc. Live tonight.
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Guest Jay
Yes.
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Host Mike
And we were talking about like, kind of where we form, why. Why the 99 is the way it is. And you were like, hey, man, do you want to like, structure people on now? And I said, no, let's wait until the whole point of the show is like, let's wait until it gets talking and toxic in there and then we start inviting people on. And so I figured we'd talk right now about the 99, about your show, about how dudes endlessly roast each other. But there's a. There's a genuine connection that we've all built and we actually care about each other a lot and we've never met each other in person.
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Guest Jay
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'll tell you a bit about, like my journey into 99, when I was listening through a long time ago through like the whole SF bro era, and I was a listener only, and I didn't feel like I could jump in and contribute anything valuable really.
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Host Mike
Which it.
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Guest Jay
Which is ridiculous because I know my worth and I'm amazing. But I jumped in the live and then moved straight onto Patreon. And that was there when. When it all kicked off, really, when the OG upgrade happened and it all just got crazy in there. I think we all. I don't know, we all just did it together, really. But I mean, the benefit of being on the Patreon community is it got smaller. So all the people that didn't bother to. To join the Patreon your wankers. But it was A. It all got into, like, a smaller, smaller community, and it just made it a little bit more personable. But yeah, and. And if we move on to, like, the brotherhood, this. I mean, everyone's in there. Like, we've got nerds, veterans, like, too many cops, a Brit, and even a gay guy. Interesting. It doesn't matter. You're always welcome.
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Co-host Jake
We even have a. We even have a Muppet.
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Guest Jay
Yeah, a Muppet. We don't discriminate against anyone, anything, especially gay. Retard.
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Host Mike
Yeah, it's a. It's a crazy melting pot of just different types of dudes, but it definitely is for the boys, I'll say that.
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Guest Jay
Yeah. And you mentioned that. And I can speak for all of us in the 99 that you guys are one of the boys as well. Like, you speak. You're just one of the boys. Like, we can. I can chat to you guys. You won't get offended. And I can actually chat to you guys rather than people on.
- [55:48]
Co-host Jake
I mean, there's some. There's some guys that run podcasts or shows.
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Guest Jay
Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
Absolutely untouchable. And would never give five minutes of their time to you. Is that. Is that true?
- [55:57]
Guest Jay
Yeah, I mean, that's the sort of thing that happens quite a lot, especially on a Monday and a Thursday that wasn't meant to be a Thursday, but only once a month. Is that. Does that sound.
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Co-host Jake
I don't know.
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Host Mike
I mean, that sounds pretty accurate, pretty familiar. Yeah.
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Guest Jay
But, yeah, there's no hierarchy either. Like, there's, like, you aren't better than any of. Like, no one's the head of the 99 where we move as one. It sounds really gay, but
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Co-host Jake
it's June, and you're making it sound really gay. But that's the real.
- [56:27]
Guest Jay
I posted earlier. I was like, oh, should I post this because it is really homosexual. But I was like, no. People need to know.
- [56:32]
Host Mike
Am I doing the Discord a good read? Am I describing it pretty well? I'm new to the Discord because I. I, Me and Mike valed. We're not getting into new apps. And the guys just kept telling us, man, get in the Discord. And I, I got in. I had to explain to my wife what Discord was. And she's like, so you just sit there. And I'm like, yeah. I was like, I'm busy. I'm. I'm creating reels on my phone for the. I'm working on my phone, and I. I mute the mic, but I could still hear them. And she's like, got it. And I'm like, it's fun, dude.
- [57:06]
Co-host Jake
It reminds me of the old Call of Duty chat when it was before I screwed it up when Xbox upgraded from the.
- [57:13]
Guest Jay
The.
- [57:13]
Co-host Jake
The 360 to the 1 and then on it made it very difficult. Discord kind of brings it back to that old, like, jump in the chat room. You might sit there and talk in the chat room, in the. In the squad for 20, 30, 45 minutes before you even launch a game, because it was like everybody was kind of shooting it and it brings it back to that. And, you know, it just. Bad timing for that UFC fight that it fell when my wife had to work the next morning. So I was gonna get shot in the face if I talked, but at least I got in. Was listening to everybody commentate. I was texting. So it's a good time. Definitely.
- [57:43]
Guest Jay
Well, with the Discord, it was. It's something that I think we were missing here is because there was no entry point really into the 99 other than jumping on the live. And on the live, we're all like, it's intimidating, dude. It's intimidating. Yeah. And. And people don't like to talk about it, but it takes a lot for, like, especially. I mean, there's men as well when we all say that we're all hard as. And. And I would never say this personally. It was probably what a friend said to me at one point, but. But yeah, so they don't talk about.
- [58:13]
Host Mike
It just.
- [58:13]
Guest Jay
It takes a lot for someone to actually reach out. And then when no one reacts or no one says hello or. Or everyone just says, who the are you? Then. Well, they're not going to reach out. So.
- [58:23]
Co-host Jake
But we.
- [58:23]
Guest Jay
But with the Discord, you can jump in whenever you like. It doesn't have to be in.
- [58:28]
Host Mike
Which. Here's the thing is that the type of people that we are really like, the type of people that our show attracts, it's humorous when somebody pops in and everybody goes, who the is this? Because there's no crazy. There's no. There's no sugar coating. And you have to be like, yo, I'm. I'm so and so. And I.
- [58:49]
Co-host Jake
Why. Why did we go to half a J instead of a full J?
- [58:52]
Guest Jay
Oh, sorry.
- [58:53]
Co-host Jake
There you go.
- [58:53]
Guest Jay
All right.
- [58:54]
Host Mike
I'll tell people all the time when they're like, I want to jump in the chats. I'm like, go call Knicks fan bat. We just make fun of him. And like, Jake's not that.
- [59:03]
Co-host Jake
But at the end of Hot Topic last night, I brought Murphy on. His mic was messed up. And it didn't work, but it's like, that's the point is like, can you imagine trying to get on somebody else's show and being like, hey, I'm coming in or whatever. And that's, you know, I think that's what I'm gonna rebrand Hot Topic is as well. Like I started last night, different kind of concept. Still got that of the politics. I'm gonna steer back away from that. We got some time to talk about that stuff. So I want to get Hot Topic more into a show for the boys where guys can pop in Jake and pop in Jake and pop in. Anybody wants come in, chat for 10 minutes, talk about some stuff and move on. That's kind of be like the Hot Topic theme going forward. Almost like a night shift type deal. But just seven o' clock, Hot Topic, let's talk about what's going on, kind of everything. So that, that's a cool part where I know, hey, I can, you know, come on on guys. And that's what.
- [59:49]
Host Mike
Look at this. This is a perfect example. I have not noticed Ryan Velasquez name in here before. I just haven't. I'm not saying they haven't ever. They probably have been in the chats and there's tons of Ryan's and Velasquez's. So I might be actually knowing to this person, but he goes ayo. And not one person said hi.
- [60:09]
Guest Jay
Yeah, that's it.
- [60:10]
Host Mike
I wouldn't be like, okay. I'd be like, y', all, dude.
- [60:13]
Guest Jay
Yeah, but if you jump on a jump on the Discord, literally, you can type it. I mean, I mean, I personally get up early in the morning because I run my own business and I work hard and you know, you know what, what, what I do and it's, it sets my day well because I can get up an hour earlier, just chat absolute with the boys, walk my dogs and then my days.
- [60:33]
Co-host Jake
I guess I got to start getting on in the morning. I will, I'll do that now because I go out. You know what?
- [60:38]
Host Mike
Wait.
- [60:41]
Co-host Jake
Yeah. Starting in the morning. Tomorrow morning.
- [60:44]
Host Mike
You'll be the only one in the court in the morning. I don't think you're guess getting.
- [60:47]
Co-host Jake
Oh, his morning.
- [60:48]
Host Mike
Yes.
- [60:49]
Guest Jay
Yeah, yeah. So. So he'll be there.
- [60:51]
Co-host Jake
That, that will be there where he is.
- [60:54]
Host Mike
Oh, I don't have to stay up late. I'm just gonna get on in the morning.
- [60:58]
Guest Jay
Yeah, I thought that's what I'm gonna talk to myself.
- [61:01]
Host Mike
There's the sheriff.
- [61:02]
Co-host Jake
I'll be on the discord 8:00am, 8:30am tomorrow. Drinking coffee, webcam on and everything.
- [61:10]
Host Mike
There's Brennan, 20. What's good in the hood, my ninjas. Hope everyone is happy. Yeah, strongly consider the guys. Jay, especially, really took a long time in setting up this discord. Let's get rid of that comment.
- [61:31]
Guest Jay
I'll put my Instagram handle and the Life Raft podcast handle in the. On the screen just so that if you need. If you want to, like, just send a message to what it's all about, give me a shout out.
- [61:43]
Host Mike
Yep. At the Life Rap podcast or J. Life Lifecraft.
- [61:50]
Guest Jay
I can't spell, mate.
- [61:51]
Co-host Jake
I'm English.
- [61:53]
Host Mike
Yeah, man, it's just. I. Yeah, I want to talk about that stuff because Jay's been very intricate. I mean, they all have Jay. Jay is kind of like a middleman between and. And Jake does it too. And a lot of the guys do it where they actually do reach out for other people. Like, they look out and like, names and they try to get them. I've done it with a couple people like, dude, trust me, you like this discord. And they're like, are you sure? I'm like, dude, trust me, man. Just try it. So,
- [62:25]
Guest Jay
yeah, I think on the flip side, we're not afraid to come to you and say, right, this is an idea that I've had. And you guys are not. And never like, no, that's not. That's idea. You'd always consider it and say, well, no, that's like, that's not what we want to do. But there's still that option there to
- [62:40]
Host Mike
speak to you guys and yeah, idea. But I'll tell it to you. Jay had one this morning, actually.
- [62:49]
Guest Jay
Yeah, I have many ideas, man. They'll have about 120 through my head a day. And the ones that come out to people are the ones that are definitely not, I think, but they always.
- [62:58]
Co-host Jake
I mean, you're. You're contributing. That's all that matters. You're not calling out sick.
- [63:03]
Guest Jay
Well, whether it's good or bad, it's still contributing.
- [63:06]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, you got to hear about 99 things into that one.
- [63:10]
Host Mike
Mike. I was telling Jay this morning offline. I was like, you know, the network has really, like, recently attracted and gained a lot of people that like the camaraderie, like the talking, like, because they know it's. It's. They have no egos and they don't get butt hurt. And some people do.
- [63:32]
Guest Jay
I was just gonna say that was a lot of. That's what a lot of men crave, I think. Yeah.
- [63:37]
Host Mike
Yeah, it's Real. That's that locker room, job site, squad car, team room, whatever it is. Like, that's the. That's the banter that. I mean, not to sound gay, but men want. They want that. And when you work with dudes that, like, visibly get butt hurt and you can't give them. You can't even. On real, like, real things. Like, you were like. Like, dude, how the. Could you yawn in the middle of a goddamn broadcast right now? I say that to Mike.
- [64:07]
Co-host Jake
We're not on a break that we're supposed to have.
- [64:10]
Host Mike
I say that to Mike. Mike's not gonna care. Someone else. Other people on this network won't talk for the rest of the show because I'm like, how? You know? And it's just.
- [64:19]
Co-host Jake
I can do that, too.
- [64:21]
Host Mike
I know. Mike would literally be like, I could actually just not do anything.
- [64:24]
Co-host Jake
If that makes it great. Yep. Matter of fact. Hey, I'll catch you guys tomorrow.
- [64:30]
Host Mike
Yeah, I'll get on the Discord in the morning if anybody's there. If not, I'm good, too.
- [64:37]
Co-host Jake
You got to be able to. I mean, I maybe don't you get mad at me sometimes. I don't take it as well, but that's what it's all about. Sometimes you're like, oh, you sound like a. Were you bullied in school? Every time I say something.
- [64:51]
Host Mike
You can't be the bread of your.
- [64:52]
Co-host Jake
A joke. That's what he says every time. It's like a broken record.
- [64:56]
Guest Jay
But it seems like you've remembered it a lot, Mike, so.
- [64:58]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, I've heard it like, three or four times. Because I look at, like, clapping back the way I do is, like, helping play the joke. You make a joke about some guys, and it's immediately like it is. Yeah. Like, he just said, they're offline. They're done. We're gonna just sit there and pout. And it's like. Well, I figure clapping back is better entertainment value than me just going, you right? I'm stupid, so. Oh, that was funny. All right, Jay, have I mentioned that I'm starving yet?
- [65:27]
Host Mike
That's a record. Usually you're in the last.
- [65:29]
Co-host Jake
I didn't say it yesterday either. I didn't say it yesterday either. I kept track.
- [65:32]
Host Mike
You were eating a protein brownie.
- [65:35]
Co-host Jake
It wasn't a brown. It's a brick.
- [65:37]
Host Mike
Yeah, it is a brick. All right, catch me and Jay tonight. I'm sure Michael pop in there, too, but me and Jay will be the main host of Counterculture Live. Counterculture Inc. Network, YouTube, 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time. It's for the boys and it'll be toxic as so if you want to come in and have a good time and roast the out of each other, you can pop on. If somebody's somebody wants to come on, that's we've never seen before. Slater and his four teeth want to come on. Wants to come on with a shitty ass microphone, more the merrier. Cool.
- [66:08]
Guest Jay
Thank you guys, Appreciate it.
- [66:10]
Host Mike
All right, buddy, I'll see you later.
- [66:14]
Guest Jay
All right,
- [66:16]
Host Mike
we're going to take a quick commercial break.
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Host Mike
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Co-host Jake
What a stupid word I just said.
- [69:06]
Host Mike
There he is. Can you hear both of us? Check.
- [69:10]
Guest Ryan
Check. Radio check. Yes.
- [69:11]
Guest Jay
Check.
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Co-host Jake
Beautiful.
- [69:13]
Guest Ryan
Brilliant. Good morning, comrades.
- [69:16]
Host Mike
What were you showing us on the screen? Oh, yeah.
- [69:18]
Guest Ryan
So a couple of weeks ago, someone asked what my 1 mile run time was. It might have been our friend, Pride Assassin. And I don't. You know, I haven't ran in a bit. I trained more kickboxing, but I went for a run, and so I just wanted to share the results. I did four miles. It's kind of hard to focus. Follow me on Strava. 4 miles, 36 minutes, average pace, 8. 55.
- [69:42]
Co-host Jake
That is excellent.
- [69:44]
Guest Ryan
My what? My best mile was 8. 37. My worst mile was 9. 19.
- [69:50]
Co-host Jake
That's very good.
- [69:52]
Host Mike
Whoa. You ran four miles solid. Hey, you know what? You might not like it, but some things from the ring. Marine Corps stayed with you, dude. And the ability to run four miles whenever the hell you want is one of them.
- [70:07]
Guest Ryan
And I'm out of practice, so stand by for end of summer. Maybe the three of us can compete
- [70:12]
Co-host Jake
and see who has me.
- [70:14]
Audience Member
The.
- [70:14]
Co-host Jake
What's the app called?
- [70:16]
Guest Ryan
Strava is Okay.
- [70:19]
Co-host Jake
I use Nike. Nike for my whole life, but I can add that.
- [70:23]
Guest Ryan
Brilliant. So, yeah. So thankful to be here.
- [70:26]
Co-host Jake
Beautiful. That's good, man. That's a good time.
- [70:29]
Guest Ryan
Not bad. Working on it. And, you know, at our age, bone density through strength training is more important than VO2 max. And I gotta work on my strength training, to be honest.
- [70:43]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, I. I do both. Tyler just.
- [70:47]
Guest Jay
All right.
- [70:48]
Host Mike
I don't know what Tyler does, but I try. I'm a good reader.
- [70:54]
Co-host Jake
Yes, he's a good reader.
- [70:56]
Host Mike
You know, all these. You know, what you call Ryan, you call the alpha males, right in the comments sitting there. Sure. My. My favorite thing to do is when they get. When they get very insulting and they're just trying to be. I mean, almost like keyboard warriors. The same guys that say they would beat up keyboard warriors are actually keyboard Warri warriors themselves. And so all I say is, dude, keep talking that trash. I'm gonna roll you up, big dog. And they lose their minds. Obviously, I'm not gonna travel to fight another man over Instagram comments. But they don't get the joke. And they immediately fall for the bait and then they explode in anger that someone just called him a big dog and B said would roll him up.
- [71:36]
Guest Ryan
It's so common in my experience. So thank you for bringing this up. Folks often confuse hurling insults from the safety of the Internet behind an anonymous private profile as somehow courageous. And it's just a remarkable.
- [71:52]
Co-host Jake
It is, it is, it's. I don't entertain it anymore. I can't because it's. To me, it's. It's not worth. If you're not willing to put your faith. And I know you, you talk about it. You were very skeptical, coming online and nerve wracking, but you did it right and you got through it. And you're here every week and you know you're going to get some heat and that another. But I commend you for doing it. But the people that don't do that, I just can't. And my wife's guilty of it. She entertains it. I don't know why you would argue with somebody who's not even willing or man enough to show their face. Like, it's. It doesn't make any sense to me. I get like the quick comeback one time, hit them, go. But if they're not willing to even put their name on their words, they are the most. They're the least manly person that could exist. That's my opinion.
- [72:39]
Guest Ryan
I would love to talk about like manliness and masculinity, whatever word you want to use. Oh, no, totally. I do want to like just acknowledge that I get blocked all the time by like anti Snowflake bro vets and by my community of these, like psychedelic assisted resiliency advocates.
- [73:00]
Co-host Jake
Right.
- [73:01]
Guest Ryan
So you think that if folks were anti Snowflake or had psychedelic assisted resiliency, they'd have a bit more like distress tolerance. And so on that note, I just want to send a shout out to the Kevlar therapist, Tyler Heise. We were both in grad school to become therapists at the same time and he blocked me after I asked if Joe Kent was a fascist when he invited him to his own kind of podcast. So want to say a shout out to Tyler the Kevlar therapist. Hope you're doing okay.
- [73:35]
Co-host Jake
The only people I will block are psychopath like serial killer mentality or women abusing humans that don't. I just can't argue with people who are really bad people. Now if I don't know you and you want to debate, I will never block just a random person. But when I know You're a psychopath or you're a terrible person who does nothing but to bring, like, pain and suffering to everybody. There's just. That's just where I draw the line. I'm not gonna debate with somebody or, like, you're hiding behind your own, like, really horrible past and you try to, like, make excuses for it. Like, I can't get behind that. But anybody else wants to debate. I don't block anybody. I love good conversation. But there's just that the mentally ill, unstable people that like, like you. People try to talk smack about you, but you dialogue. Yeah. They'll say you dance around questions and all that stuff. But we, we dialogue, right? We have a conversation. It's not in insulting, it's not intentionally, like, trying to, you know, harm you behind your back. None of that stuff. So this is always great. But if any, you know, that's the only threshold I draw with blocking is when you're a psychopath, someone who shouldn't even be on earth. I'm not going to debate with you.
- [74:41]
Host Mike
Yo.
- [74:42]
Guest Ryan
And to keep it real with you, if we remember Chris Kyle, American Sniper, there is a portion of the veteran population that are legitimate psychopaths. And this is why, after joining this podcast, you know, so graciously. Thank you for the invitation. I scrubbed my lover from my Instagram page. The amount of racism, death threats. Right.
- [75:04]
Host Mike
All this, like, wait, after you started with us? Sure.
- [75:09]
Guest Ryan
Like, I'm not thirsty. I do pretty good with the ladies. I'm very blessed to be in the best romantic partnership of my life. And I have to say, censor my lover's face on my page now because of the unhinged public.
- [75:22]
Co-host Jake
Yes. And, and, and yes, my family has fallen under attack as well. And it's unfortunate, but I, I see where you're coming from. And that's where I get, like, when you start attacking family. And that's my level of, like, blocking. Like, I'm not going. You want to debate me. You want to have a good conversation, because it's always good to discuss things. But when you start becoming a psychopath and going after family members and doing things like that, that's where I think you should. We should all draw the line somewhere. And that's probably it. Like, if you're that mentally ill, then there's no reason to have, like, a normal conversation.
- [75:52]
Host Mike
And I can't. To me, I know you, you know, we don't like to talk manly and like, what's alpha male and whatever word, but there's nothing honorable about trying to Cancel someone. For instance, I think I've said this before. We had somebody message me and say pretty much five. I think it was five messages telling me that. Essentially saying that we needed to not have Ryan on our show because this is what Ryan is saying. I don't care. Like to send me screenshots of. It might have been dms or it might have been comments. Either or. Ryan's very out there or very outspoken with what he says to people. And somebody from this, this alpha world, this tough guy world that Ryan likes to critique sometimes was trying to cancel Ryan through me. And I immediately was like, dude, you clearly don't watch our show because he's a regular.
- [76:47]
Guest Ryan
Yeah, no, I think this is an important topic. Right. Cancel culture. I do think freedom of speech does not equate to freedom of reach. And I'm open to accountability.
- [77:00]
Audience Member
Right.
- [77:00]
Guest Ryan
If I cross lines, if I make mistakes, I appreciate feedback and I'm open to being wrong. I know I have plenty to learn, probably even more to unlearn. And, you know, when we have communication where we have maybe divergent perspectives, but in a container of mutual respect, this is a really important environment. Petri dish to arrive at, you know, mutual understanding, learning, growing, healing.
- [77:30]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, I agree. Like, I, like I said, I get a lot. I think we got somebody. One of our platforms. Somebody said the same thing to me. Like, oh, this guy. You guys entertain this guy. I'm like, you're missing the point of the show. Like, you're missing the point of the show. First of all, in the description, it's called entertainment. So some of this is obviously for entertainment, but it's also, it shows that with a healthy dialogue will allow anybody to talk. You can't get into threatening. You can't. Like I said, attacking family, threatening, that kind of stuff. There's just no place for. If we're just swearing each other and hurling insults, it doesn't really. I don't know what it does for anybody but to have a dialogue. I know you've won't. You, you, you. You've warmed up to the people. Like, the people have warmed up to you. It's hilarious to watch the initial run, and I think my wife was talking to somebody the other day who was trying to get nasty about talking about you. And she's like, you have to at least respect that he comes on and talks and has a dialogue. Right. He doesn't just shout, scream, yell, blah, blah. So it's like, I think I. I don't know, man. Like, if somebody put. You might not get a 99, sure. But you're probably in like the 1990s and 29 or right now. You're working your way up. I don't know you'll ever get to the 99, but you've got a little. You got a number somewhere there.
- [78:46]
Guest Ryan
I appreciate this, and I think, yeah, over time and interaction, but things do sort of maybe achieve some balance or maybe even some harmony.
- [78:56]
Host Mike
Right.
- [78:56]
Guest Ryan
That's why I don't like necessarily unity, where we all have to be sort of the same and uniform. I prefer harmony. Right. Where we can have one person on one end, another person on the totally complete opposite end. But operating in good faith, mutual respect, we can achieve something that's not really possible
- [79:19]
Host Mike
if we were in a tribe living in harmony. I think that you're more of a hunter gatherer and I'm more of a warrior hunter that brings food.
- [79:33]
Guest Ryan
Okay, well, this is a good topic, right?
- [79:35]
Co-host Jake
Hey, guys, the hunter gatherer is sleeping. He can't move.
- [79:43]
Guest Ryan
Important topic today. This is a super important topic, guys. And I want to, like, really just touch on this for a moment. Right? Because indigenous and like archetypical warriorhood has traditionally been about defending the defenseless. Women, children, elders. However, US Counterinsurgency strategy since the beginning, since the Indian wars, has targeted elders, women and children. So whenever we're making these sort of fantasies about Valhalla or warrior culture, we're naming us helicopters after Native American Indian tribes. We have to learn to disentangle warriorhood from foot soldiering. Foot soldiering for empire. These are not the same.
- [80:40]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, I agree. Different. Different tasks, different reasoning. Right? A foot soldier is being told to do something because of xyz. That old warrior is doing it to survive for everyone that he has amongst him. It's a survival. It's a. It's a way of life. It's not a, hey, go do this because the. The straits closed, or this is. This is happening. It's a. We are surviving. And I guess it's easy to look at it from the. If you go to, like, the animal world, that's the easiest way to see it. Like, that's the kind of the way it works. Like, they just don't go fight to fight. They fight to defend their own. They stay in their little pack, and they don't really leave that until they're threatened by something on the outside. They don't just go, you know what? I bet in 25 years, that pack over there is going to be bigger than us. Let's go kill them all, right? Now it really doesn't happen.
- [81:28]
Host Mike
So.
- [81:29]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, I like, I always kind of default back to the animal world where you kind of see that like, I believe, kind of what it was supposed to happen.
- [81:38]
Host Mike
Yeah.
- [81:38]
Guest Ryan
And in the animal world, Right. Since we just crowned our first trillionaire in the United States.
- [81:46]
Co-host Jake
Yeah, we did.
- [81:46]
Guest Ryan
But in the, in the animal world, if there was a member that was
- [81:50]
Co-host Jake
hoarding all of the resources, he would be gone. Yeah.
- [81:55]
Host Mike
Well, a lot of people call that the hood when someone has other people take. So is that synonymous with the animal world or is that similarly.
- [82:06]
Guest Ryan
Do you guys remember Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous?
- [82:10]
Host Mike
Right.
- [82:12]
Co-host Jake
I'm Robin Leech. Yeah, yeah.
- [82:14]
Guest Ryan
Yes, Right. And then that kind of emerged into cribs. Remember that? On mtv?
- [82:19]
Host Mike
Right.
- [82:20]
Guest Ryan
And I think that these sort of broadcasts are to.
- [82:27]
Co-host Jake
Right, I like, I know where you're going with it.
- [82:29]
Guest Ryan
I like it to give poor and working class glimpses into the elite lifestyle.
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Host Mike
Right.
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Guest Ryan
And the poor folks, they can't afford the elite lifestyle. The middle, you know, working class folks can't really afford. Get there either. But working class folks might be able to buy the handbag, might be able to buy the brand name garment.
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Host Mike
Right.
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Guest Ryan
But the poor can't. And neither the working class or the poor have access to the elite beyond these TV shows. So together, this is where crime comes from.
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Host Mike
Right.
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Co-host Jake
I like it. And I also think it was part to show us almost rationalize how elitists can be elite. And we just like it because we like to watch it. You know, I'll never be that. But if I, if I, if I see it as a. It's an advertisement, I can buy that bag. Like you said, I don't get as mad and angry about all those people being so rich that I'm so poor because it's on tv and. Oh, we talked about. Did you see it? We watched that episode. Do you see that?
- [83:36]
Guest Jay
Crazy.
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Co-host Jake
They dumped out a million dollars worth of gold and they didn't even care. They just let it. Like it becomes normal for like that behavior to be rationalized that somebody has that much money and has that much power, and then again, what do they do? Oh, man, I got that last 50 bucks. I should probably pay the rent. Man, that bag looked good though. On that show. That dude was wearing them badass Jordans. So I'm gonna buy those instead because. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a.
- [84:01]
Host Mike
One of the things in cribs was the cars. Right. So I live in a, I live in a one hundred and twenty thousand Dollar house. Right. Which is nothing. And. But I'm gonna buy the Hummer H2 because that makes me feel like that guy. So my Hummer H2s out there, but my house doesn't reflect that I can afford that lifestyle or like the above ground pool is a classic example of people that shouldn't have pools, but they have them because they're like, well, I have a pool in my backyard.
- [84:30]
Co-host Jake
Did you see the, did you see the Rick Ross controversy last week with him flying? Did anybody pay attention to that? Rick Ross, who is famous rapper, he lives on that exclusive island down in Miami where you can only get to buy boat. He has his own private jet wrapped in the Rick Ross. Somebody caught him flying commercial at the airport and they made a huge deal about it because he's sitting there in a hoodie and he kind of peaks and he's all dressed down. He immediately, when he got back, he talked about where he went. He immediately flexed back on everybody to show him that he only flew commercial because his private jet was broken. And he went back to the gold and every. And like imagine how he was flying regular. And it was like the worst thing that ever happened to him to be considered regular like everybody else. So he had to go flex on video his jets getting a $7 million upgrade. I only flew to meet so and so at this specific club. We partied all night. I came. He's got his million dollar gold change back on. But just even in his world to be classified regular and run on world star is just a regular guy. He couldn't handle it. He had to go announce the world he wasn't regular. He was, he was elite. Yeah.
- [85:36]
Guest Ryan
And you know, Tyler, I'm glad you brought up this like hundred thousand dollar home that you live in. Right. The condo in my building that's for sale is listed at 750,000. So this is, this is America.
- [85:49]
Host Mike
Right.
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Guest Ryan
And I think the most important thing that, you know, what I'm learning is that I can do here is to help with this idea of social class consciousness is why I wore my car heart overalls today.
- [86:01]
Guest Jay
Right.
- [86:02]
Guest Ryan
I am just calling you.
- [86:03]
Host Mike
They were calling you Ryan the builder and Tool Time earlier.
- [86:08]
Guest Ryan
All good.
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Host Mike
Right?
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Guest Ryan
I. I'll take it. You know, and I went to business school because I was conditioned to believe that the trades were inferior. Well, you know what? All my high school buddies that joined the trades, they're all homeowners now. So who was duped?
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Host Mike
Right?
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Guest Ryan
And this is the part of that problem is because we look towards wealth as, aspirational Right. I want that private jet. I want the gold. I want all that.
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Host Mike
Right.
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Guest Ryan
Instead of looking at it as like a cancer, as a parasite, as really, this is excessive. This is hoarding and selfish. And so we really need to shift our culture. And hopefully the Epstein class emergence has helped us understand, like, it's good to be working class. It's important. And these billionaires and now trillionaire y', all, let's really like, let this sink in.
- [87:04]
Co-host Jake
What are the conditions 26 times around the earth the money would reach if you laid it all out.
- [87:11]
Guest Ryan
And this is a guy that benefited from South African apartheid, benefited from nepotism. Right. Benefited from inequality.
- [87:21]
Host Mike
Hey, there's a real quick. There's a super chat for you. Hey, Ryan, Good to see you on the show. I wanted $10 from Murphy. By the way. I wanted to give you an update. I went from hating you to hating you less. You are now down to dislike only. P.S. tyler still FK. You know that's the whole point of Ryan's plan, right? What are the steps?
- [87:42]
Guest Ryan
Infiltrate, agitate, educate, organize. Right.
- [87:46]
Co-host Jake
Much love.
- [87:46]
Guest Ryan
Named Murphy after Robocop. I grew up on that propaganda show too. And I imagine we're going to be fighting robot dogs to gain access to drinking water to wrestle from these data centers.
- [87:58]
Co-host Jake
Well, then it's gonna. Elon Musk is gonna have to convince you to get away from the robots. You got to move to Mars where he built his super planet. And then he'll move. He'll move everybody to another planet planet and tell you that it's okay to go live there.
- [88:09]
Guest Ryan
New guy here, 69, that just said I would get my ass kicked at a job site. When can I pick you up from San Francisco International Airport and we can put this to the test?
- [88:20]
Co-host Jake
Speaking of rent, do you know what the cops started in San Francisco? $239,000 base salary.
- [88:32]
Host Mike
Right?
- [88:32]
Co-host Jake
Base. Well, maybe that's. I think that's a little like building overtime sprinkled in. But they put a poster up. I won't say all about the poster because you won't agree with the rest of it because it has to do with a rainbow flag. So we'll leave that part out. But the propaganda poster for the police said that. Welcome to San Francisco. You can start at $239,000. What does that get you out there like a one bedroom slum apartment?
- [88:57]
Guest Ryan
Let's be honest, right? As city of San Francisco budgets are decreasing for social services. Basic social safety nets. Cops always get a raise. Cops always get their budget allotment. And the police in most city budgets takes the majority of the city budgets
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Co-host Jake
that, that starting, that starting pay is three times the topout pay of a deputy here in my county. Three times the topout pay.
- [89:32]
Guest Ryan
And let's be honest, like, let's look at the appeal.
- [89:35]
Host Mike
Right.
- [89:35]
Guest Ryan
That's why so many people are becoming ice, you know, Nazis. Because you can achieve this level of like high working class salary from a basically modest education.
- [89:51]
Host Mike
Yeah.
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Guest Ryan
You could be a high school graduate and make this 240k. Right.
- [89:55]
Co-host Jake
I think that's a lot, that's a lot of money. But it's not. Right. But it's not in relative to San Francisco. That's really not. Because you're saying the rent is okay
- [90:06]
Guest Ryan
in comparison to a behavioral health clinician too, that works on 6th Street. A population of engineered inequality. My base salary is $87,000 at a master's level.
- [90:21]
Co-host Jake
Three times, three times the.
- [90:23]
Host Mike
Wait, you have a master's degree?
- [90:25]
Guest Ryan
Yes, sir.
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Host Mike
Va. Do you get va? You got VA or GI Bill?
- [90:30]
Guest Ryan
GI Bill, yes. Disability, no.
- [90:33]
Host Mike
Yeah, I, I was able to get a four year degree and a police academy with a GI Bill that I don't use.
- [90:39]
Co-host Jake
A couple educated folks here.
- [90:41]
Guest Ryan
Hey, look, I'm just a landless peasant.
- [90:43]
Co-host Jake
I'm just a landless peasant with a ged, yo.
- [90:47]
Guest Ryan
And my undergraduate was in business. So at one time I did want to be a capitalist and I had.
- [90:54]
Host Mike
Right.
- [90:54]
Guest Ryan
And, and then I got educated on capitalism and realized this is not, you know, the best thing.
- [91:00]
Co-host Jake
Yeah.
- [91:01]
Guest Ryan
And you know, I think what's important to bring up in this case of like basically, you know, modest education folks getting these positions of extreme, like power.
- [91:14]
Host Mike
Right.
- [91:15]
Guest Ryan
Is that I'm curious about what your take is on Cohen Wiley. Do you know who Cohen Wiley is?
- [91:24]
Co-host Jake
Nope.
- [91:24]
Guest Ryan
Yeah, he was the one year old that was shot by a police officer because Walmart claimed his mother shoplifted diapers.
- [91:35]
Co-host Jake
Yeah.
- [91:36]
Guest Ryan
So the mother of a slain, slaughtered one year old has the receipt for these diapers. Right. So you guys, you know, and this is part of what I'm trying to bring in, is that the police defend property. They don't defend the population. And the population, that is not property owners. Right. The landless peasants.
- [91:57]
Host Mike
Here's the thing, Ryan. I mean, I know you, you have your just like I would look at a communist blanketly. You look at cops. Very blanket. In my last years as being a cop. Property is property. I'm not risking getting injured, I'm not risking rolling my ankle. I'm not risking a lawsuit. If Walmart called and said he just stole all that. That guy looks at me and flicks can flicks me off and takes off running Walmart. You're a billion dollar corporation, you'll be, you'll be fine. Like I'm not. But I do see what you're saying when it comes to property, that being said, something that you own. I think it's not fair that if somebody breaks your car or your home that you've invested in, it's not fair for you to have to just deal with that because well, this is an offset of a utopia that doesn't exist. Like you deserve justice. And I would if someone you as a person devalued, stole or broke your property, I would act more personally on that than I would a corporation or a store because they're set to and
- [93:01]
Co-host Jake
let me two things about Walmart. One, well, two things about this case. One about Walmart. I agree a thousand percent with Ryan about Walmart. Walmart is evil. Walmart picks and chooses which cases they want prosecuted. Nate actually in a small Tyler I always you worked in a big place so I, I, you just, it's different for you. We work in a two Walmart county, right? Three with the little marketplace. They control us. They call us to the scene and they go this one goes to jail, this one doesn't. This one stole X amount of dollars. So they go this one, we're just trespassing. They control us with that power of Walmart and tell us what we're going to do in this town. That's what happens now in this case. The second part of this is again, there is nothing in Walmart valued at enough dollars that anybody should die like a child should die. Having said that, the police putting themselves in a position where they're gonna I know what this case is already. I'm looking into it. This is the old I got almost run over, I had to defend my life and that's back to training and cops putting themselves in bad situations for property. You just like the pursuit video in Jacksonville. Cops riding his motorcycle in front of a car, putting himself at danger. In that situation there is no property, none that I'm standing in front of a moving vehicle even or a stationary vehicle to say stop, don't run, I'm gonna get run. I just, that's me now other cops, if I'm not knocking the cops and I haven't seen any body cam video, I haven't seen any video yet. But if just on the surface, if I told you today you're going to go to work and you're going to stand in front of a car, of a car that stole diapers and you're going to end up shooting a one year old. That's what happened. Justified or not. Did he almost get run over? I don't know the facts yet but if I told you that was going to happen, do you want to deal with that as a human being? I'm probably going to say think that most people are going to say no. I wouldn't want that on my conscience. So yeah, that's the whole process in itself is massive corporation controlling the police for diapers. Do we allow. Can we just allow society to steal openly? No. But now you're putting yourself in a position obviously that you felt force was justified over diapers. And now one year old's dead. I haven't seen all the facts. I'm not here to on the cops. I'm just running it through my head out loud for what we know right now.
- [95:19]
Guest Ryan
Yo, and I really appreciate you like bringing in this context of like how influential corporations are on the police department in Union Square in San Francisco right now at all times there's a San Francisco police officer in that retail establishment there. Often they put this big RV like command center thing and park it in front of the Apple store also. Yeah, they got camera. Yeah, all that, you know. So this is something that I think we got to talk about more. I'm glad people are, you know, warming up to me. That's great. But I think we need to warm up to the idea that we've been duped about this red scare. McCarthyist communism, socialism is whatever. It's the Epstein class that told us this guys. So like and I believe that we are starting to kind of wake up as a culture and as a people through conversations like this. Hopefully we can get there. Last thing I want to say on this though too, the police officer fear of his or her life as a justification for deadly force is how often these cops are coached and trained to meet the sort of interrogation of these, you know, deadly incidents. And let's remember the ICE agent that shot the poor lady, right. And killed her because you know, he put himself in front of her car.
- [96:51]
Co-host Jake
I where I'll veer off from you there is I still support the police maybe a little differently than you, but I think it's. It's bad training because like Tyler says, I think at the core most cops want to go to work and do the right thing and they do go to work to do the right thing. Putting yourself in Front of a car is very stupid. But then I would say the institution then does. You know, the, the common thing to say is, well, I was in fear and that that is wrong. But I don't think it's, I don't think it's cops going, I want to kill a one year old. I want to kill a black male or I want to kill a white male or I want to kill somebody today, I'm going to go stand in front of a car. I think that is lack of training and lack of common sense. And maybe it has to do with our hiring, it may have to do with our field training program. Maybe it has to do with tick tock videos recruiting the wrong type of people. But at the end of the day, putting yourself in front of a car to stop it doesn't seem like a really good idea. And then that leaves a deadly force. And I haven't seen this video, but I, I know myself and this. I'm speaking for Michael Dils. I'm nobody.
- [97:49]
Host Mike
Great.
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Guest Ryan
Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
I would not put myself in front of a car. I did not do it in 23 years over anything. There is no crime that I'm gonna go, yeah, just run me over. Like run me over, take me out. It just doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
- [98:03]
Host Mike
That important that I must die.
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Co-host Jake
There's nothing. Unless maybe my family's inside and maybe that. Absolutely. Let's say that if it was kidnapped, maybe if the infant was kidnapped and I'm like, I have to stop this one year old from getting taken away, maybe I put myself around the car. Maybe I pump through it too to the windshield, to the person driving that maybe. But over property, there is not a diaper, there's not a gold bar, there's not any type of substance I would be willing to die over to stop it from driving away.
- [98:35]
Guest Ryan
I am so glad to be here. I won't be here next week. Sadly, in parting, I just want to agree with you. I believe that most cops and troops join for good reasons. Soldiers don't join so that they can necessarily kill innocent black and brown peasants defending their homelands from the invaders. But this is what the institution does. So policing in the US context, this is the outcomes that us as individuals, we do have to reconcile with contributing to. Thank you.
- [99:14]
Co-host Jake
Enjoy your, enjoy your week off.
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Host Mike
Yeah, have a good week, man.
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Guest Ryan
Thank you, comrades. Peace.
- [99:20]
Host Mike
Later.
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Co-host Jake
It was a double up. Double.
- [99:25]
Host Mike
Dude.
- [99:25]
Co-host Jake
One of you, one of you is bad. One of you, one of you is bad enough. Dude, not two. Yeah, he makes, you know What I think I would. This is my assessment of Ryan. This is his. How long has he been with us now? About six months, A little longer.
- [99:43]
Host Mike
Yeah, probably about that I believe
- [99:47]
Co-host Jake
based on our, you know, no knowing what we was gonna get. Even me yelling at him back in the day, screaming, obviously I think he came in with a little heat and we all did. But he makes some very good points when it comes take to commune. I'm not a communist, never going to agree with that stuff. But the corporations controlling the police and the. We talk about it like the entity of the police convincing us to enforce mass mandates do things that we normally would think are absolutely insane. He's not wrong there that young cops can be influenced to turn the wrong way or do things for not because I would.
- [100:26]
Host Mike
It takes people like Ryan and us to come together to figure out a solution. Obviously Ryan is a communist because I would never stop.
- [100:35]
Co-host Jake
I would go back tomorrow and go back to street crimes and smashing doors and going to rest people. I would do it tomorrow. And I still agree with all that. But I know I have the common sense to go with it. To go. I'm not standing in the front of this car like it's not, it's not happening. I'm not doing it over a shoplifting. I'm just not putting myself at ever in that situation because I believe I have common sense. I'm not saying I'm great, I'm not better than people I know. Throughout 23 years I never ended up standing going stop your car. Don't, don't run me over. Like I didn't, I didn't reach in cars and, and get it just there's things that, and I think some of that is just, you can even call me fearful. I was fearful to get injured. I didn't want to get hurt. So that led me to go, probably not going to do this. Like I've done dumb things. I've done completely. I've chased people in neighborhoods I shouldn't have chased them in by myself. Like done stupid. But just getting in front of a car over property. I hate it for everybody involved because I don't think the cop wanted to kill anybody. I know that he didn't stand there going, I'm going to get one today. But now that guy's got to live with shooting a one year old baby the rest of his life over diapers.
- [101:41]
Host Mike
That's awful. That sucks. And those are the stories that people like Ryan grab onto and shove right in our face. Someone like Ryan, unfortunately in the rest of his years is being a human being. He is never going to. To share a story where a cop is honorable. That's just. That's who he is. I thought it was very forthcoming of him to say that he understands cops generally join for good reasoning. That's a first for Ryan to ever say that. But he's never gonna sit there and give you the 99.9 of the circumstances where cops do. Right. People like Ryan are gonna.
- [102:14]
Co-host Jake
No, but I think his concession. His concession there was when he said that he knows that cops and military guys don't join to do bad things. Like, I think that's as far as you're going to get him to concede.
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Host Mike
Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
Because once they do, he agrees they're not getting on today. Once he agrees that they've joined, then they're part of the man. Right. They're part of the government. I have to see that shooting. I would like to break that one down. I got. I'm just. I don't know. Sometimes breaking down shootings isn't my thing. I hate trying to be a tactics guy. I. I believe I have good tactics and all that, but I don't always explain things the best. My wife would be the one that I wish would break down videos like that because she's got more of the tactics. But. Yeah, that's a funny one. Right. The way he worded that. I love when he said he was open to being wrong. My wife is open to being wrong every now and then.
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Host Mike
Yeah. In theory. In theory. Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
She said something really funny other day. Something to that level, like. Yeah, something like she was open to me being right or she was. It was. Oh, like I might have been close to being right or something. Some of that effect. You might have said something that seemed like you were right about it, but not you weren't right, but just you were in the ballpark of being right is what it was.
- [103:24]
Host Mike
It was her conceding to you a little bit. Like giving you a little bit of
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Co-host Jake
just, you're not right. But you were close. You. You know, you worded it good enough that somebody as intelligent as me almost thought you were right. So you did pretty decent.
- [103:35]
Host Mike
I know what your dumbass was trying to say, and I. I'll take it. Yeah.
- [103:38]
Co-host Jake
Is kind of missing this one.
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Host Mike
He's traveling or by train?
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Co-host Jake
By train.
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Host Mike
I took that Amtrak, one of the major hubs in Chicago. And so I went to Southern California, speaking. Probably the same train he's on right now.
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Co-host Jake
She must have heard us talking about her.
- [104:00]
Host Mike
Why?
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Co-host Jake
She said Something very nice. So she's definitely not listening. She told me she loved me in a text.
- [104:06]
Host Mike
Wow.
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Co-host Jake
Randomly. I wonder what guy she's with.
- [104:12]
Host Mike
Do the top. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Do the toxic thing that women do and go. Was that meant for me?
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Co-host Jake
It was consist. It was consistent with her normal text.
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Host Mike
Was that meant for me? Like, I literally.
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Co-host Jake
We were joking. So she tells us. Funny. One of her funny stories is when her ex got caught. He called her sweetie in a text, and he had never said to her in their entire marriage. And she knew. So we were, like, joking back and forth, and I was like, yes, babe, yes. Yep, I got you. And I said, all right, sweetie. And boy, did I get a look. I was like, bro, we're standing here together. I'm like, you know, I've been going through joking, joking, like, you let it go quick. But it was funny. I got a couple more things. One serious one, so let's get that out of the way.
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Host Mike
Oh, need to do. Oh, you got it?
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Co-host Jake
I got it. Yeah. I got it.
- [105:01]
Host Mike
All right.
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Co-host Jake
This is a serious one, so stop being crazy. Everybody, for one minute, let's be serious, because this was close to one of our people. This is a fundraiser for injured officer. Police officer here. This is one of m man's partners. Officer Cruz was seriously injured while trying to apprehend a dangerous suspect. His bravery and commitment keeping our community safe has always been a source of pride for us, but we now confronted with the reality of his long road to recovery. So if you guys would consider this. Eli, if you can copy and paste that, or I can do it. Hold on. If we can copy and paste this into the chat, you guys go give this. Give this man's family some money.
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Host Mike
How do I put it in the stories?
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Co-host Jake
All right, we'll put in the story later. I'll share. Share it on Kabul. But please consider a donation. This is. This young man, one of those dudes. We went up there and saw their agency met there, his co workers. This is a great agency, great group of guys. And Meech man is tight with this man. So let's help his family out.
- [106:01]
Guest Jay
All right?
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Host Mike
The guy's actually. I mean, he's gonna recover, which is great. He's a little up, but he was doing real police work, dude. Yeah, that department, dude, me and Mike rolled in, and as soon as I rolled in, that little city, it's a northeast city, they all look the same for. For the three states up there, they all look. All those little cities look the same. And I'm used to Florida like little cities like, oh, I bet you they don't get no crime. As soon as we rolled in those city limits, it was the usual suspects walking in the shadows. People like, looking shady.
- [106:32]
Co-host Jake
Yeah. Right before we hit the. When I got that quadruple with cheese whopper, we saw the state police and the locals together on a pretty shitty stop. So. So it was good stuff. All right, let's get back to some real police talk now. I got a couple more good ones here. I got a couple good ones. You're gonna like this one. This seems to be a common thing going on nowadays. We have troopers arrested for overtime fraud. Two highway patrol troopers surrender themselves to Osceola County Jail. The Florida troopers have turned themselves in and Osceola County Jail. According to the Osceola Sheriff's Office, Captain, Captain Lanita King was booked on four charges. Defrauding to obtain public service, false documents, falsifying public records, and grand theft of more than 750, less than 5, 000. Also, another trooper was arrested with her. So interesting. You know, we make these cases for police, advocate for police.
- [107:35]
Host Mike
Yeah.
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Co-host Jake
And these guys are. It's. I'm telling you right now, it's happening where I work, where I worked. And I'm gonna fix it if you can't.
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Host Mike
If you can't be trusted to not pay yourself extra when you have the. When you were in the job of the ultimate big boy rules, you can take people's constitutional rights away and you can kill someone if you have to. You have to be able to be trusted to be able to do your time card without people physically seeing you. Because here's the thing, is that anywhere else at work, you can see when Joe walked in and clocked in and clocked out. It's very easy to catch Joe going. Joe stayed for an extra hour and a half. I mean, oh, he did okay, because there's cameras. You're in a physical building. Cops are out and about on calls. You're staying on a call. Your shift goes home. Your supervisor goes, you got this? I'm good, Serge. Supervisor goes home and is on you to be responsible for that. And it's the same thing every time. When you go, well, it's at the quarter mark. I'll just take it to the next half hour. Okay. If that's within policy, that's not the most egregious thing in the world. But that's where it starts. It starts right there, and it moves up into. Well, what's an extra hour? Well, let me count my drive home. Well, I, I deserve one more hour because they said if you do this, give yourself two hours. And that's where it starts. And then that's where legitimate fraud comes in. It doesn't just start like I'm gonna start stealing time right now. It's that little thing that goes like,
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Co-host Jake
Let me, let me, let me, let me expand on that because there's some people that are in trouble if I win because I know it goes on. And I will concede. Just like Steve says, self proclaimed heroes, sometimes we, you're in a bad position to try to speak up because you know that the upper staff takes care of certain people and that certain people can get away with it. So they're very minor things. I saw, you know, I saw it, I saw guys coming in at 10, they're supposed to be in an 8. And then you know, you see their time card. Got a couple extra hours and you're like, this worker didn't get to work till 10. There is a female that works there that they promoted that has no business even being a cop. And I don't mean because she's a female. I don't believe, because she's any other reason. She is not tactical, she is not even qualified, in my opinion, to be a cop. She got promoted to sergeant, if you can believe this, last year because of who she's with and who, you know, her partner is and his connection to the sheriff. I remember as a supervisor I could see time cards. So I only approved my three or four guys. My three guys I had that were under me, so I'm mine. And she was a detective though at the time, just a regular detective. And I remember looking at her time card, I would not see her till noon every day, maybe noon. Don't have no idea what she did, no idea where she went. She was with some, I don't remember what she did. And I remember popping through time cards one time and seen her time card and it had three to four hours a day overtime for an entire pay period. And it said report rating, late, report writing, report lighting. And I'm like, she didn't get to work till noon, noon. That means to get to overtime it would be, have to be 10, 11, 12 o' clock at night that she was still here. So I popped in one day, she wasn't there. And I know that went on for a very long time. And that is going on more than you can imagine. And that's most of the time the guys get caught are like overtime details. They don't show up to or they're at the house when they're supposed to be there, things like that. But this, yes, this is a rampant problem in law enforcement. And those are some of the things that I know that go on. That this, these leaders at the sheriff's office here right now overlook and let happen and it's not acceptable. And there you talk about how can you fix the budget. Well, how about we stop people from illegally getting overtime. And you know what, the 15 minute thing is very popular here as well. Hey, you know, 15 here, 15 there. But when you have people that don't come to work all day and they got 32323 every day overtime for report writing. You're a detective in order to get overtime for report writing. That means from 8am to 5pm you never left your desk. You typed all day, you didn't eat lunch, you didn't get to do anything.
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Host Mike
You ate.
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Co-host Jake
And then you decide, I'm gonna type three more hours and I'm gonna keep typing. You all know the detective schedule. They get a two hour lunch. They don't have any accountability. They go here, they go there.
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Host Mike
Cool.
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Co-host Jake
That's what comes with the job. That little downtime comes with the job. But when you start banging overtime on top of it, you're a criminal and that person has no business being a cop. And we will hopefully get to address that in 2028.
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Host Mike
Yeah, like I said man, it's people don't go the the time of. I'm lucky to have this job and I'm lucky for the ability to work overtime. As corny as that sounds, that was how I always treated it is I get the ability to stay and make time and a half right now. I'm not going to abuse it. Right. So take a play golf. But yeah, they, they do.
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Co-host Jake
And hold on. I got one more. We got one more. You get. Unless you got a roll. I got one more. No, you're good. Well you know what, I'll save these for tomorrow. Tomorrow's remote again because I'm going to Hard Rock.
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Host Mike
Yep. Tonight, Counterculture Inc. Network come see me and Jay from the Life Rap podcast with other guests. I'm sure we roast everyone complete and unfiltered and un waverable toxicity. That will be tonight.
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Co-host Jake
I also told Murphy if you want to get with me Murphy later on hit me up. I'll help you with your microphone and get it set
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Host Mike
real quick. Brandon says sounds like the woman I worked with being a pipeline work. All right guys, we will see you tomorrow 1pm Eastern Standard Time, YouTube, Facebook NX have a good day. Jv team for life.