SECRET SERVICE AGENT ARRESTED (05/05/2026)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: SECRET SERVICE AGENT ARRESTED (05/05/2026)

Date: May 5, 2026
Hosts: Mike & Tyler
Audience: Veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Antihero Broadcast dives into a series of wild, controversial, and thought-provoking stories from the world of law enforcement, focusing on issues facing modern policing, including an embarrassing Secret Service scandal, a shooting near the White House, mishaps involving officers, and law enforcement accountability. The hosts blend irreverent humor, first-responder perspective, and candid critiques on police standards, leadership, and criminal justice, with a running conversation about recruitment challenges and policing culture.

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Main Discussion Topics

1. Secret Service Agent Arrested for Indecent Exposure

[02:26–12:42]

• Headline Recap:
  A Secret Service agent, John Spillman, was arrested in Miami for indecent exposure—masturbating in front of hotel guests. The incident occurred off-duty after providing security for Donald Trump at the PGA Championship.

• Details of the Incident:

  • Spillman followed hotel guests menacingly, leading them to fear for their safety.
  • He was later observed masturbating near their room; security found him "with his pants lowered" ([03:54]).
  • Placed on administrative leave, bond set at $11,000.

• Hosts’ Commentary:

  • Humor & disbelief: “The hiring pool is slim pickets… but damn, dude, I didn’t know the feds were having trouble wrapping people up.” (A, [02:45])
  • On law enforcement standards:
    “I thought the Secret Service had, like, a really effective hiring process where they screen people out that might jerk off on other [people].” (A, [06:50])
  • Recalling related stories:
    • Reference to the “Swiss Cheese Bandit” from Philadelphia, known for public indecent acts with cheese. (A & B, [08:56])

• Tone:
  Candid, irreverent, and incredulous—hosts riff on “drive-by” indecent acts, joke about the pressures and vices in law enforcement, and question the screening and mental health resources for federal agents.

Notable Quotes

• B: “Midnight is like 5pm in Miami, dude…I mean, I know a couple places he could have went.” ([06:42])
• A: “Can you imagine telling… I guess you probably wouldn’t have to tell Trump unless he saw it.” ([07:33])

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2. Secret Service Shooting Near the White House

[12:44–18:11]

• Story Summary:

  • Secret Service agents shot and wounded a gunman near the White House, briefly locking down the area.
  • A child was also shot during the exchange (unclear by whom; investigation ongoing).
  • The suspect may have been targeting President Trump, who has faced multiple assassination attempts.

• Hosts’ Analysis:

  • Express concern over the lack of thorough lockdown post-incident:
    “The White House should be locked down for an entire day after that…Every building around…should be checked.” (A, [15:05])
  • Compare fed response to local police, emphasizing stricter discipline and scrutiny for locals.
  • Discuss backdrop safety and crossfire risks.

Notable Quotes

• A: “There’s things that local law enforcement are able to do better than Feds. One of them…is backdrops and knowing that when you’re gonna get in a gunfight in the public, it better be worth it.” ([16:33])
• B: “The feds are just going to go, sorry, the guy tried to kill the President. Your kid’s dead. Like, here's a flag.” ([17:25])

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3. Police Mishap: Lost Duty Weapon in a School

[18:11–21:17]

• Incident Recap:

  • Chicago-area police officer left a gun in a school bathroom; it went missing, likely picked up by a student.
  • Both hosts find it “embarrassing” and mock the scenario, noting it’s “already been used in four homicides” in Chicago.

• Broader Reflection:

  • Discuss how such mistakes undermine public trust and officer safety.

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4. Police Accountability & Leadership in Louisiana

[21:17–26:04]

• Corruption Stories:
  • Ongoing issues in Louisiana with police leadership, prison breaks, and administrative cover-ups.
  • Example: Police chief confronted with evidence an officer logged 363 days of work, obviously falsified, but feigns ignorance.
    • “I don’t know anything about…so you’re asking me for a reaction, I’d rather have reflection.” (Chief, [22:28])
    • Hosts ridicule the lack of accountability.

Notable Quotes

• B: “That’s the chief of police. You can already see that the place is a [disaster]…” ([23:31])

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5. Fitness, Appearance, and Standards in Policing

[26:04–30:08]

• Hosts Critique Police Fitness:
  • Discuss overweight sheriffs, contrasting current standards with military “Sergeant Major” culture.
  • “There’s no excuse for a sheriff to look like…You are the face of the agency.” (B, [29:12])
  • Host points out contradiction: demanding public accountability while failing basic physical standards.

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6. Social Media, Public Accountability & Legal Ramifications

[30:08–33:54]

• Debate over public officials blocking critics on social media:
  • Host claims blocking is illegal if accounts are used for public business.
  • Riff on Sheriff Greg Tony’s Star Wars meme: “You are a cosplayer and a phony and not a real Star Wars fan…” (A, [31:15])

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7. Viral Crime and Violence Clips

[34:15–40:57]

• Attack on Elderly Man in Seattle:
  • Two young men senselessly punch a 77-year-old on his way home.
  • Hosts reflect on generational trauma and the apparent lack of motive.
  • Discussion on the difficulty of rehabilitating perpetrators of such unprovoked violence.

Notable Quotes

• A: “You almost want there to be a reason why they just did that…” ([35:20])

• B: “That, to me, goes into like the…pedophilian stuff…Animalistic, unprovoked violence…cannot be rehabilitated.” ([37:09])

• On Use of Force:

  • Philosophical debate about how violence is perceived and why intimate violence (e.g., stabbing, bludgeoning) horrifies more than shootings.

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8. Dangers of Civilian Police Positions and Understaffing

[40:57–53:58]

• Discussion of unarmed civilians in police roles:
  • Case example: Civilian police worker shot in the eye with a pellet gun during a call.
  • Both hosts strongly oppose the trend of using civilians for police duties—they are equally at risk but without training or tools.
  • “We are going backwards. We are getting softer…We’re not keeping up with hiring practices and standards.” (B, [45:52])

Memorable Exchange

• A: “What could go wrong?” — mocking the idea of civilians in police-marked cars handling public calls. ([51:48])

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9. Policing Culture, Leadership, and Retention

[53:58–59:13]

• Customer Service vs. Policing:

  • Hosts argue that “de-escalation” and “customer service” mantras have undermined police authority and pride.
  • Good leadership, high physical and ethical standards, and peer mentorship (especially through patrol) are essential for morale and public safety.

• Street-level Reality:

  • Need for adaptive communication—sometimes polite, sometimes aggressive—based on circumstances and community.
  • “That’s called effective communication. You know it, you just gotta label it the right way.” ([58:48])

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10. Final Thoughts—On-Job Realities and Rookie Advice

[59:13–61:30]

• On policing style:
  • Importance of using appropriate language and tactics for different types of encounters.
  • Running joke about “pocket crack” and rookie shortcuts—delivered with satire, warning new cops not to cut corners.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Midnight is like 5pm in Miami, dude...” – B, [06:42]
• “You think… the Secret Service had, like, a really effective hiring process…?” – A, [06:50]
• “The feds are just going to go, sorry, the guy tried to kill the President. Your kid’s dead. Like, here's a flag.” – B, [17:25]
• “That’s the chief of police. You can already see that the place is a [disaster]…” – B, [23:31]
• “There’s no excuse for a sheriff to look like…You are the face of the agency.” – B, [29:12]
• “That, to me… Animalistic, unprovoked violence…cannot be rehabilitated.” – B, [37:09]
• “We are going backwards. We are getting softer…We’re not keeping up with hiring practices and standards.” – B, [45:52]
• “That’s called effective communication. You know it, you just gotta label it the right way.” – FTO instructor, quoted by A, [58:48]

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Engaging & Memorable Moments

• Hosts' mix of blunt honesty, gallows humor, and criticism of law enforcement failures.
• Side stories: “Swiss Cheese Bandit,” lost police firearm in Chicago, fake workhours by LA cop.
• Skewering of physical and ethical double-standards among command staff.
• Relatable tangents on TV (The Walking Dead, Black Hawk Down), and irreverent asides (pocket crack, “super eater” vs “super speeder”).

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Episode Structure & Flow

1. Introduction and sponsor plug
2. Main story—Secret Service indecency scandal, digressions into hiring and mental health
3. White House shooting—discussion on federal/local contrasts
4. Police mishap in Chicago—lost weapon
5. Louisiana department mismanagement
6. Critique of police fitness and leadership standards
7. Social media and public accountability for police
8. Viral violent crime analysis
9. Civilians in police roles—risks and systemic issues
10. Philosophy on law enforcement culture and leadership
11. Satirical “advice” and signoff

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For Listeners

Perfect for: Law enforcement professionals, first responders, veterans, and those curious about the gritty, unfiltered realities facing modern American policing.
Key Takeaways:

• Policing is increasingly hindered by poor leadership, low standards, and superficial reforms.
• Civilianizing police functions can endanger both civilians and the public.
• Culture, accountability, and standards at the top set the tone for the whole system.
• Gallows humor and pointed critiques are integral to coping with and discussing the profession’s challenges.

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For timestamps and direct stories, refer to the outline above to catch the sections that matter most to you.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Afternoon. Yes. People say I look 10.

[A]

That's from being outside running if you guys haven't already. If you guys join our Patreon. This is the first half of Patreon Tuesday. It's free. Mimics pretty much the broadcast version of it. But the second hour we go live from our from YouTube on through Patreon. So that's for all paid tiers. And we got a lot of stuff to talk about in the next hour.

[B]

Do have a lot of stuff to talk about next hour so.

[A]

But this hour we're going to bring you some crazy news. The first one, kick it off for anybody that's just watching because of the thumbnail is Secret Service agent arrested for indecent exposure.

[B]

I thought this was America.

[A]

I know the hiring pool is slim, pickets with local law enforcement. But damn, dude, I didn't know the feds were having trouble wrapping people up.

[B]

The dollar menu's affecting everybody nationwide right now.

[A]

So sharing the screen right now. Secret Service officer arrested after masturbating in front of hotel guests, police say. In Miami, a United States Secret Service officer has been put on leave after authorities say he exposed himself to hotel guests in Miami and began masturbating in front of them. Sheriff's office says John Spillman committed the offense of indecent exposure. He was arrested just after midnight on Monday at a double tree near Miami International Airport. The victims told sheriff's deputies that they were in a hotel lobby when Spillman began menacingly following them, leaving them in the fear for their lives, according to the arrest report. They claim they later saw Spillman masturbating next to their hotel room. Holy guacamole.

[B]

Gooning.

[A]

The report says the guests called hotel security who reportedly found Spillman with his pants lowered and masturbating on the sixth floor. Spillman is from Texas, is based in D.C. according to the Secret Service, he was a south Florida as part of a security perimeter screening detail for Trump while he visited the PGA Championship. He is assignment concluded Sunday saying he was off duty when arrested. Oh, the alleged conduct is unacceptable and stands as a start contracts with professionalism, integrity, a demand for our personnel, said Secret Service Chief J. Richard McColly. The Secret Service placed Spillman on administrative leave pending the outcome of the criminal investigation. He appeared on bond court Monday. Where. George. Where judge said a bond at $11,000.

[B]

I mean I've been down bad man, but that ain't it, dude. Have you ever seen like the drive by videos?

[A]

Nick sent it to us. There was. There was a guy in Philly that. They called him the they. He had a nickname. I don't know what he was, but there was some guy in Philly doing drive by jerk offs like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In his car.

[B]

I made a meme. No, I made a meme in my old account where a guy did a drive by touchdown like stuff to skin on a lady in like dollar tree. Like fluid flew it right out on her. She looks down at her leg and there's. And then like chases about this door like I don't understand. I don't know. I don't know, man. There's levels to this game. But I don't. I get. I don't get that one.

[A]

Yeah, that's a. I mean that's.

[B]

That's below the dollar menu that's down there.

[A]

That's like the terrorizing people with your wiener.

[B]

That's like the. It's like the free meal place down at like the. The county where they give out the turkey on bread. Man. That's. That's bad.

[A]

I think that for somebody to do that, they've got to be on drugs, dude. They have to go.

[B]

I don't know if it's drug. I think it's mental because I. You know, there's. Obviously people have different levels of deviance, but, like, that doesn't even seem fun. There's things that can be very deviant that are like, okay, well, you're over, but like, in a. Like, you filed somebody to their hotel room and you just sat outside the door.

[A]

Sometimes I can't even pee at a urinal with people in the bathroom. Yeah. And you're outside their hotel door.

[B]

Yeah, just yanking, dude, what the. And you're in Miami at midnight. It's early. There's plenty of time left in Miami.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

Midnight is like 5pm Dude. I mean, I know a couple places he could have went.

[A]

It's just. You think. I mean, I get it. A podunk, Mississippi town, some guy skating by. Look at that. But I thought the Secret Service had, like, a really. What would you call that effective hiring process where they screen people out that might jerk off on other.

[B]

Well, maybe like, JoJo's brought up and Huck was talking about it. MG money. Maybe he was just edging up, man, to be ready for the game. And he was edging. He was edging up, man. Getting ready, you know, Might have to game to take out a terrorist tomorrow. Trump's in town. Dude, I gotta get ready. Gotta get my mind ready, man. I gotta be able to explode with energy.

[A]

Yeah. So can you imagine telling. I guess you probably wouldn't have to tell Trump unless he saw it. Like.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure he saw it. I mean, somebody's gonna make the call, like, hey, one of you guys in your detail is smacking thing out there.

[A]

That's the chief of Secret Service guy that made the statement.

[B]

Somebody's got to know. That's what I'm saying. Like, you don't. I don't think. No. He'd probably have something really funny to say.

[A]

He would.

[B]

Yeah. He probably wouldn't even fire him. He'd be like, all right, dude, come on, what are you doing here?

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's it. That's all that's out there on this life.

[B]

Life is. Where could your life be if you're beaten off in a hallway? Life's got to be pretty rough at that point.

[A]

I mean, you got a job with the Secret Service, dude. You're traveling around the world.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Like I said, cash.

[B]

Oh, cash, dude, you're in Miami at The Hard Rock. Go to Miami gardens Drive, exit 14. There's some things down there. There's all kinds of things you can do down there. The Pink Pony Club is down there.

[A]

Everybody's got their vices, dude. Maybe that's.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

Maybe that's his thing, you know? You would. Would you. You know, like, you said, I'd be at midnight. I'd be at the casino when I'm off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Chasing people down hotel hallways with meters.

[B]

I mean, that's like. That's different. I mean, he's shaking the dice, but that's a little different, man. Like, that's a different. Hunting. Hunting.

[A]

I think Justin said it in here. That guy in Philly was like. They call him Swiss cheese. Oh, the Swiss Cheese Bandit. Because he would. He'd put a block of Swiss cheese next to his. I don't know, dude, Nixon. I actually had hilarious. Because he was a. He was like. It was a serial guy, and they were trying to catch him.

[B]

Like, I worked a case where we got a confession on a guy for the same thing. He was driving, and he tried to tell me he was, like, shifting the gears, and the people misunderstood what he was doing. And we went all the way through it, and I lied to him and said there were cell phone video. And then he finally admitted. Then he got caught a second time. Like, again, I don't get it. I don't get it. Driving down the road, like, I don't understand. I mean, there's the mobile. Mobile dollar menu. If you're, like, in with somebody else, but, like, alone, like, you. The road.

[A]

I mean, do you find a parking area or something?

[B]

I mean, a parking area is one thing, but this dude was, like, running down the street just looking at women out the window, dude.

[A]

Like, while he was driving.

[B]

Yeah. He worked for a company. He was, like, a volunteer for. He was in the fire academy, and he was working for, like, a delivery company. He's just yanking down the road, like, staring at women at the stoplight, and they look over and they're like, oh, boy. And then I'll never forget. I wish I get the video. Like, I remember him. I'm like, well, how are you driving? He was trying to, like, simulate that he was using the stick shift instead of.

[A]

I was like. I was like, he reaches over the stick shift. I was like, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm like, come on, man. I thought he was gonna leave. I'll never forget the confession, too, because he. He. I got him, like, backed in, and I was like, dude, look, we have a video, like, Everything I remember, I'll never forget. He took all his stuff. He piled it up in front because he was free to leave. We just brought him in the station. He piled everything up in a pile of keys, his wallet. He put it all to the side. And I'm like, he's gonna leave. And he goes, I did it.

[A]

I'm like, what?

[B]

Like, I had no idea. I'd never believed in a million years he was gonna admit that he did it.

[A]

So. So outside of your bluff, you had nothing?

[B]

A female complainant, no video, no evidence. He could have just stuck to the story. It was zero percent chance of him.

[A]

I've never made an arrest for that.

[B]

It's like a decent exposure and all that. Yeah, it's. It's. But it's like, I had nothing. Yeah, no, it's. No, no, we would have got a warrant.

[A]

Or.

[B]

No, maybe it is an exception because. No, we got a warrant. We let him go. We let him go. It's a misdemeanor. We let him go and then we arrested him. But I'll never forget it. Like, he put up. I'm looking at my buddy, one of my good friends. He packs all his stuff up. I look at him look. He looks at me. I'm like, he's leaving. And he packed it all up. He slams the table. Now he's like, you got me. I did it. And I was like, oh, man.

[A]

So you let. You let. Okay. But if you hadn't had the confession, nothing. Could you have written the warrant? Nope.

[B]

Nope. His word against hers. I didn't do it. And that was it. Whoa.

[A]

I remember there was all kinds of things. I. The only time I got close to that was I got a call from a neighbor. It was like, the same neighbors, dude. They were always fighting. And the one guy was like. The neighbors were like. He walks in his house, in his living room, naked, for the. Everyone to see on the street. And I was like. I was a newer deputy. I was like, dude. Because obviously that's up. Dude. That's really weird. But I'm like, oh, dude, I was calling. Super. I don't really remember. I remember. If I remember correctly, there was nothing we could do about it. Now, I don't know if it was because we weren't there and we didn't see it happen or if they're legally. He's allowed to do that in his own house. I wouldn't think you could. Like a big open window that faces the street and you're just there, junk hanging out. I wouldn't think.

[B]

No, it starts to border like the public.

[A]

Like the public walk away where you can't mace and push some lady down.

[B]

Yeah. Like your front yard. It's your front yard, but you can't go out there and beat off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like there's public morals. Like, you know, the public morals thing. So

[A]

in other secret service news.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We have a shooting and at the White House. So me. Stop that. I hate the share screen option when you have multiple tabs open because it doesn't play nice.

[B]

No. Yeah. That's the only problem with this program. It's a little hinky.

[A]

All right, so one day we're gonna

[B]

have a whole producer. Everything's going to be cool. We're gonna buy an old spirit jet. We're gonna put.

[A]

Well, we talked about. We talked about how jets are cheaper to rent for the day. Right.

[B]

We can get on teemo and buy a spirit airline.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. It would be pretty big, though. Kind of ridiculously big for me and you and a producer. No, that's fuel.

[B]

We bring Clint with us.

[A]

Secret service shoots gunman near White House Suspect have been taken into hospital following the shooting in Washington D.C. united States secret service said it returned fire at a gunman near the White house, wounding him and briefly triggering a lockdown. An investigation has been launched by a D.C. metropolitan Police phone. The shooting, which took place on Monday. The incident comes after an alleged assassination attempt of the United States president Donald Trump and White House correspondence dinner See if a circus director said the shooting occurred. Man, this poor director dude. He's statement after statement here today. The shooting occurred after plain clothes agents identified a suspicious individual they began believed to be carrying a firearm. Agents briefly followed the man and called for backup. When uniform secret service officers arrived, the suspect attempted to flee and opened fire. Agent shot, wounding the man. A weapon was recovered from the suspect. A child was shot during the. Holy Jesus during the exchange, but entries were not life threatening. It's not clear who shot the minor, but Quinn said investigators believe he was struck. Well, yeah, I'm gonna say that definitely was not secret service that shot this child. And we might have to release some more Epstein files if that's the case to cover this up.

[B]

Oh, we got aliens. Hold on. We got another alien over here.

[A]

Quinn said the secret service will find out whether the gunman was targeting Trump. The secret service also said there was no evidence suspect intended to target U. S. Vice President J.D. vance motorcade which passed through the area shortly before the incident. So. So some things to take away from this is that. I believe that the Secret Service, whatever their game plan is nowadays, is not preparing for a decoy attack. I just. They're like, oh, it was. It was just on lockdown for a little, like, a short period of time. Like, to be honest with you, dude, the White House should be locked down for an entire day after that. There should be no stone unturned there. Every building around the White House should be checked. Like, every block around the White House should be checked. Like. And I know that's exhausting and that's a lot of resources, but it's the President who's had four attempts on his life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're just gonna lock it down for a minute after they just shot a guy that was trying to go after this president. I mean, I guess they're saying maybe. Maybe they don't know for sure.

[B]

But, I mean, D.C. is a dump. So it could just be a coincidence that it happened to be within the vicinity of the White House. But that city was run by certain people for a very long time and has a lot of crime and issues, so they vote blue every year, if you believe that. And it's a rough area.

[A]

The other. I guess the. The actual big thing to take away from this is that a child was shot during the exchange.

[B]

Yeah. That always kind of.

[A]

And sometimes I believe that there's things I don't believe. I know that there's things that local law enforcement are able to do better than Feds. One of them. I believe everything. Everything is. Yeah. Is one of them things is backdrops and knowing that when you're gonna get in a gunfight in the public, it better be worth it. So even if a dude's fleeing and shooting at you, if you increase the risk of someone being shot by firing bullets down range. I don't know. I wasn't there. And I'm not saying that's what happened. This could very easily been. The child was struck by the gunman, and the officers were like, we have to kill this guy. He just shot an innocent civilian. That totally could be the case. But if it's the other way around, I just. I think cops would make the call not to shoot over shoot due to backdrops.

[B]

Not only that, cops are going. Cops know are going to be disciplined differently and investigated differently in the Feds. The feds are just going to go, sorry, the guy tried to kill the President. Your kid's dead. Like, here's a flag. Like, we're not going to dive into a. Local law enforcement would go through a massive Investigation. I mean, look, like I said, whether you agree with it or not, the Predian shooting and the. And the Renee, good shooting, like, if those were local, it'd be all over. Still, every day, though, the fed's got involved.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

It's gone. They're gone. There's nothing else about it. It's gone. It's. Off you go. So I don't have the wire. I'll have to get the wire for. We take phone calls at the end. I got something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You ready to move on?

[A]

Yeah, a couple.

[B]

All right. So we talked. We talked about the. Remember we talked about the plane hitting the pole or hitting whatever.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[B]

Here's an actual picture of. If you zoom in, that is the top of the wheels hitting the semi. So that plane cleared that roadway in Newark, New Jersey, and caught the wheels, landing gear caught the top of the semi truck.

[A]

Holy crap.

[B]

And then you said, like we saw the video from inside shows the guy's truck flying over. And then there's some light pulls down.

[A]

But did he go over the magnet he got.

[B]

No, he did. Okay. He lived. He had some injuries, but it flipped the truck over, obviously. But that is.

[A]

It looks like that's a wall that falls down.

[B]

Look how crazy that is. Like, that's a big jet, dude. It's a 767. So.

[A]

And you can see he was looking at it, too. He probably heard it.

[B]

Yeah, he heard. You can hear it in the car. Boom. So that's that. I got one other story that's pretty interesting. And then watch a video. Cops being cops. Look at this story. In the great area of Chicago, classes at northwest suburban school are canceled Tuesday after police officer assigned to the local school misplaced his duty weapon while using the bathroom. Police say the officer took the gun out of the holster while using the restroom shortly before classes were dismissed. Not long after, he could not find his gun. Official called the incident embarrassing, unfortunate. With an investigation into the lost or stolen weapon.

[A]

They haven't found it yet.

[B]

No, it's gone. Dude. A. No, it's gone in Chicago.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's already hit. That's already. Probably got two bodies on it by now.

[B]

Some kid walked. Yeah. It's already been used in four homicides. Some kid walked in the bathroom. And the. Hey, look at the clock. Fairy dropped off a Glock right here in the. So imagine being that guy.

[A]

I understand. I understand. I mean, you use the bathroom as a cop.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it put. And you set it in the stall hook.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right in front of You. And then who takes their gun out of the holster and then for what reason?

[B]

It's gonna have a switch on it. But it's already got a switch on it, man. Yeah, can you imagine that? Can you imagine that phone call? Like, can you imagine? Hey, Sarge.

[A]

And you know, he's. If you.

[B]

You're not going to believe this. My gun is gone. Like, interesting. See if I got anything else.

[A]

Yeah, Big Sarge calling. Calling Big Sarge to tell him that you. Your gun's gone. And you're like, how? And he's like, oh, when I went to the bathroom, I took it out of the holster, like, yeah. Were you gonna kill yourself? Like, what are you doing? Maybe he was taking videos like Tick Tocks. And he didn't want the gun to be in there because Tick Tock would flag it.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. All right, I got another story out of Louisiana is a disaster. I don't know if anybody knows. They had that last year. They had that huge prison break with like 10, 12 guys went missing. Remember that? And then they found all of them eventually. Then they found out that the prison, like covered up the fact that it happened and tried to lie about everything and all that. They also have some. Yeah, there was a prison break last year in Louisiana where like 10 guys escaped prison. And then, okay, when the story broke, it was like national news. They were finding them all over. The last guy was just caught not too long ago. But what they found that the agency did was went back and covered up the whole investigation and lied about how it went happened.

[A]

And.

[B]

And the. One of the captains or sheriff got indicted and charged with like, lying. So in another area, Louisiana, there's this police chief I'm getting ready to play. She's. You're going to see exactly why there's a problem at the agency when you see what she looks like. But they have an officer and she gets confronted with an officer who worked 360 days out of the year last year. And a news reporter is questioning her. So I'll let it play. 363 days. 363 out of last year. What's your reaction to that? That's the chief.

[C]

That would be something I would say. I don't know how healthy you were going to be trying to do that. So I don't know anything about that. Again, appreciate you know, that you're trying to get to the truth of the matter, but you also doing the gotcha. And so you are. I don't know anything about this situation. So you asked me For a reaction, I'd rather have reflection. I'd rather look into it. And so it's amazing. It's a lot of hours. It's a lot of work. So it's a lot of work, but I don't know anything about it. So it was a gotcha moment for me.

[B]

But this is information that's available within the system. I mean, if I can see it in the documents that I've requested, this is information that is 100% available.

[A]

You and everyone else in the administration.

[C]

But I also have an organization in which I have people who are to do that. And so I don't do that work.

[B]

She said, motherfucker, it ain't my problem. It's somebody else's problems. That's the chief of police. You can already see that the place is a fucking disaster when you.

[A]

She's not in charge of the jail.

[B]

No, she's in charge. This is a different situation. This is. This is different than the jail. This is the lady who's in charge of the sheriff's office. And basically what he's saying is, you have an employee that knocked out 363 days of work last year. But if you look at her, she says, well, I'm not responsible for that. She's in charge, obviously, of the entire command. Says somebody signed that guy's time card every two weeks for 52 or for 28 pay periods. And he worked every day but three in the entire year. And nobody was like, how the is this guy doing this? So, like, that's the ultimate lack of accountability. And like, as the chief, my answer would be, sir, you got us, we dropped the ball. It's almost. I think they. To go on to find out the guy was logging hours at home, he was not working. He's at. He's a black gentleman. He's. He was not working. And he just saying, no, you like to. Like to keep everything very upfront. So he was not actually working. He was logging illegal hours. But somebody signed that paper, that time card every two weeks and said, damn, dude, John Tavius is busy working for the antihero guys. He's over here. He's working every day, 12 hour shifts, every day, another day off. Every day. He worked 363 days of the year, a supervisor signed off. It would have been to the point where I'm like, holy. John Tavius only worked 13 days this pay period instead of 14. What's wrong with him? We better check on him and see if he's okay. But my point being is, you See that lady in charge of anything. It's not very surprising.

[A]

Dude, I've seen dead people that were old and died in their sleep look younger than that. Yeah, she is old.

[B]

She is. So I posted Wayne Ivy already I. On Wayne Ivy yesterday from Brevard, and I saw that.

[A]

Man, that was hilarious. Hold on.

[B]

Well, here, I'm. I'll send the picture in because this is what I want and people get mad and I don't give a really. I don't if anybody didn't notice. But you can't tell me in a world of accountability and everything that's preached and how professional cops have to be, there is any excuse for a human being in charge to not be fit. Sergeant Major at 60 years old, drunk out of his mind every night. Nine divorces, got up every morning. I got a better one, though, so that's the one I cooked them on. And that. That. That's the. No, you put it up. That's. That's my take on it. We must.

[A]

Listening. Yeah, yeah. For those listening. Go ahead.

[B]

It says we must serve the community with integrity, professionalism, and accountability, which is in their mission statement. And here's a picture of a guy whose stomach sticks out past his face so far there's no chest. And his gun belt's got to be a size 50, 48 maybe. So he's.

[A]

So his gun belts inverted in the front, like.

[B]

Yeah, it's inverted.

[A]

The top of the mag they're facing out.

[B]

Here's what I find interesting is he likes to be slick. So where the. Did the picture go? He likes. Oh, here it is. He likes to be slick. So he posted the other day, they got his big thing about super speeders, and they're. They're making a huge deal about people speeding. So he put this picture up and this is how I determined. Made it funny. The guy on the left is a super speeder. The guy on the right is a super eater.

[A]

Didn't you post that?

[B]

Yeah, they post. I posted on my story. This poor guy on the left was going 101 on the night on 95. Is that excessive?

[A]

Why do you call a poor, poor, poor guy?

[B]

If you look, see how nice he's dressed? You know where he's going?

[A]

He's going. He's driving to NASA. He was late for school.

[B]

He was going to a wedding. He's got. If you look close, he's got his wedding slide.

[A]

This poor guy. You are gonna be a great politician one day.

[B]

This, this gentleman over here on the left. This gentleman on the left. Dressed very nicely with his slide.

[A]

His name is John Tavius.

[B]

His name is Stephen. Stephen Smith. He was on his way to a wedding. He was gone to his wedding. It was his dad's wedding. His dad still in his life. And they were going to see his dad get married, remarried. And they made a post 101 and took this guy to jail and mocked him for going 101, which I can tell you that BMW goes way faster than 101.

[A]

I'm assuming it's probably like a 70 speed limit, right?

[B]

Yeah, it's just 95. So he's going 31 over, which is an arrestable offense. But they posted this guy all over him and made fun of him.

[A]

People got to understand, too, that aren't cops. You have the discretion to bring the, the speed down. Say, I'm gonna write you for 85 and a 70 center on the way to a wedding.

[B]

Yes. Yes. Look at him. Look at him, man. He's dressed very nice. His name is Stephen Smith. He's ready for the wedding.

[A]

Are you making up the wedding story?

[B]

No, no. He's really was going to wedding. They mocked him serious. Other than his name, his name obviously ends in AVs or something. I don't know what it really is.

[A]

How do you know he's going to wedding?

[B]

They posted it. They said, oh, he's not. Not making his wedding. He thinks he's gonna. So they made a whole mockery. But this piece of garbage bag on the right is the sheriff. And you can't. You can't do that. You can't be. I don't care if you're 40, 50, 60, 70, 80. You are the face of the agency. You tell everybody you must hold a standard. You must be this, you must be that. The job is dead. If that guy's your sheriff, the job is dead. I don't care. There's guys, and I'm not. I, I on Dorell Police department Chief Lopez because he doesn't wear his vest. But that's another example. That's a knock on him. But overall, his agency has run extremely well with fitness. There's no excuse for a sheriff to look like, oh, he's just a politician. He's just a guy. Then he doesn't get to sit there and tell everybody the standards and write policies for physical fitness and how you should look and how you should act. If he's not going to do it too, I go back to the military and I say they love on me the stupid tattoo he has. He has a we the People tattoo. I don't have that. But I love going back to the military all the time. Like I said, sergeant major gets up drunk, 900 years old, and runs the 10 miles with every single. Every morning the sergeant major gets up and yeah, everybody. He hates his life, hates his wife. He's divorced three times, miserable, but he's leather skin, smells like whiskey, and gets information and runs with you every single day. Not one day goes by you never go, where's sergeant major? He's the first one there and he's running. Sergeant major is the equivalent to a chief or sheriff. You cannot hold a standard and look like a bag of ass and then get on the Internet and talk. Can't do it. So that's all I got to say about that.

[A]

Well, I've got something to say about a foe of yours by the name of whatever the. Broward County. What's his name?

[B]

Greg Tony.

[A]

Greg, Tony, Greg Tony out here on May 4th insulting Star wars fans with this. Let me read this for you. This is a picture of Greg Tony and his SWAT gear. It does look pretty cool. And he is actually in shape, so we got to give that to him. Holding a green lightsaber and it says Jedi Knight or Sith Lord. First off, how dare you, Greg Tony, you have a green lightsaber. You are not a Sith Lord. So you are a cosplayer and a phony and not a real Star wars fan. Don't pander to the Star wars universe like that and ask dumb questions when you clearly are not a Star wars fan.

[B]

You know, I didn't see that.

[A]

Because he blocked you.

[B]

He has me blocked. He blocks me from that account. I can see the Brown County. I can see it's illegal. Yeah.

[A]

Yes. Which is illegal. They can't do that. Have you. Are you. Oh, I don't want to put it out there.

[B]

No. I reached out to a guy. He has a lot of people blocked, and I got.

[A]

By the way, can you be.

[B]

There's a mass lawsuit. There was a mass lawsuit going. I mentioned it. I don't know what the status of it is, but it's illegal to block the public if you use your account for political stuff. So if it was just pictures of his kids, I don't know if he still talks to his kids, but if it was pictures of his kids or.

[A]

Why do you say that? Why do you say that? Why do you say that?

[B]

Because he's a sheriff. A lot of sheriffs cheat on. Yeah.

[A]

Or super busy and don't have time.

[B]

Greg, man, his Name's Greg. He's good, just like Stephen. That was speeding. Stephen and Greg. But. So if you use your account for any type of political post and it's. That's all it is. It's him blowing himself. He's probably in the hallway jacking off at people.

[A]

So he's allowed to have an account that he calls Greg Tony. And it's pictures of him with his family at Christmas dinner. He can be private all he wants, but as soon as he starts representing as a sheriff of Broward county, especially, I mean, you could. In the handle in the pictures, it's his. I want to know how I found it just now. I didn't know his name, but I searched Broward County Sheriff, went to their page, and his is the first link up there. Sheriff Tony. Yeah.

[B]

So it's. It's on. It's unfortunate, but, yes, he can he. If he uses it for politics, and that's obviously what the site is used for. You can't block people from your page if it's personal. And there's like a. There's like a threshold where it goes, okay, this guy only posts personal stuff. He can be Sheriff Tony, actually, but it's only personal. But when you turn it into a political page that produces information for public record that is like the agency and the events and all that, it becomes personal. And our chef had to unblock a guy. Our sheriff, the piece of. Had to unblock a guy that is a good friend of mine because he can't. He can't do that. And he. The guy actually has a screenshot saying, hey, man, you blocked me, blah, blah, blah. And he said, no, you're unblocked. He can't do it any kill. You know, Greg Tony killed people back in Philly. Like, there's a whole thing like, oh, It's a lot. DeSantis can have a lot of positives. The biggest negative on DeSantis's blemished record is he appointed Greg Tony and he's pro. Yeah. I have some other news.

[A]

When I. When I. When that clip goes viral, I'm not gonna. On all the stuff after you saying he blocked me. I want to see if he blocks Antaro because I'm going to tag him and the sheriff's office, somebody's going to see that go. And then we're going to determine if he unblocks you or if he blocks anti air.

[B]

Out in Seattle, there was an incident where two kids were walking to law school and they got into a fight. So I'm gonna play this

[A]

damn. Such a shame, dude. Two men.

[B]

Person walking towards them is a 77 year old male right there in the gray. These are two kids going. They're on. They're late for law school in Seattle. Yeah.

[A]

Poor guy. Jesus.

[B]

Seattle.

[A]

Here's the thing, Mike, is that there's a small up part of me that was just saying, please rob him, please rob him. Because that would give some kind of animalistic motive behind just demonic behavior. Just go back, you know what I'm saying? Like you almost want there to be a reason why they just did that.

[B]

Old man minding his business, walking home. Boom. That's somebody's grandpa.

[A]

I was about to say, dude, my, my late grandpa early, who was a World War II veteran and he's, you know, he was my great grandfather. He was attacked like that right outside his front door. I think he might have been older than 77. That, you know. And they caught the guy, they charged him and everything. But it was a robbery. Which dude, I'm telling you is. It sounds super up. But I'll say it like it is. When there's a motive behind it, it makes it less like, why when your, your grandfather just gets beat up in the street for no reason other than a monster was there or two monsters. Yeah. I mean, maybe he tripped and fall. You got to watch out for those black guys. You know, the black eyes. That's just really dangerous to be walking outside and run into black ice. Black eyes will. Black eyes, are they just dangerous?

[B]

Are dangerous. Yeah. I was in a car once when we slid on black eyes. I was in Arkansas. True story. I was in Arkansas. I went to Fort Chaffee for OP4. There's black eyes everywhere. And our car slid. But yeah, it's unfortunate. You know, those cities and those areas. It's just. You're talking about just walking home, dude, that's when I talk about like what basic normal people want. I don't care if you're left. You're right, you're, you know, you're communist. Whatever it is. People want to be able to like Grandpa wants to be able to walk the home. Dude, grandma has enough time, hard time getting out of bed, putting his shoes on and getting to the store and back, you know what I'm saying? He's 77 and these two kids, young gentlemen decide to just punch him and knock him on the ground for just no reason.

[A]

Young neurology.

[B]

That to me, that, that goes into like the, the pedophilian stuff. Dude, I don't think those two kids can be Rehabilitated jail doesn't change. Animalistic, unprovoked violence. There's things that can be changed that does not. You can't get that out of somebody.

[A]

I think that life in prison and towards the end of your life in prison, when you realize that you got to make good with God. I think that I've seen testimonies of people where they, they, they, they go, they tell everybody, hey, I did this. They've admitted to murders they weren't going to get charged with. Dusty Turner, the guy we, the guy that we covered, the Navy SEAL that was incarcerated for a crime he didn't commit, even though he committed one. The, the guy said in there, dusty didn't do this. I did this. I'm the monster. And so, you know, or the, you know, the old wise man in prison that has the understood, finally the reason why he's there.

[B]

How long did that take? How long did that take?

[A]

Years.

[B]

30 years. You know, like Morgan Freeman and Shawshank Redemption. He finally realizes, yeah, I've been thinking

[A]

about shop for like this whole episode for some reason.

[B]

Yeah, that's like, hard, but that those gentlemen go to jail for six months, a year, the probate. Like, like what? That's what I'm saying. Like, in my head, like, I, I think, like I watch videos. Like, that lady that got hit with the hammer not too long ago was that Haitian immigrant that beat that lady with a hammer. And I think, what would it take for me to like, literally smash somebody's skull with a hammer? Like, it would have to be like a reaction to some really wild for me to go, I'm going to probably.

[A]

I would. I'll say this. A fight for your life. Yes. And you get out on top and you're terrified that this person is still going to kill you. And you have to.

[B]

Where your brain is clouded. Your brain is in fighter complete fight or flight. Now imagine you're not in that scenario. You just look at somebody like, I'm gonna go smash that dude's skull in for no reason. The noise it would make, the sound it would make when they hit the ground, the way they would react. The, like, I think of all that, like, car crashes and I've been on where people are really up and it's like, can you imagine causing that to somebody? Just, just because, like, you are not rehabilitative, rehabilitatable. If you are able to do that to somebody, shooting somebody is very cowardly and easy. Like the bullet. Boom, boom. You don't really have that relationship with it. But when you start beating people with weapons, that kind of stuff, and punching somebody on the ground and kick skull like the girl that got body slammed and kicked in the head, like that takes animalistic behavior.

[A]

There's that comedian a long time ago, probably like 10 or 15 years ago, he had this. I mean it's. I don't remember who it is. It's a very famous one. But his skit was. It was Nick Schwartz. And he was like, you know, being shot is one thing. You hear a bang, you're like, oh, oh, oh. Shot. He goes. Being stabbed. You're like. You're ah. Like watching it the whole time. It's coming right for you. It pierces you. You feel the entire thing. Like. Yeah. And to do it on the flip side, it's a very, very, very intimate.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

To kill somebody that close. Know what I watched the other day, dude, because I had. Now I have not. Your favorite show ever in a million years is the Walking Dead. I have never made it far enough into the Walking Dead where Negan was introduced. I quit every time because just there's parts, there's lulls in that series.

[B]

Bat scene with Negan is one of the most gruesome things ever. Ever Googled it.

[A]

And well, and then I was like, I was. I was like. I was looking at then the. The character development nerd youtuber that was like, well, this is legal from start to finish. And they talked about his character throughout the last, you know, the seasons from when he was Negan to now. And it's like, you know. But yeah, that, that scene is brutal.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Even Dom is like, bro, that scene is like it. It changes you. You're like, holy. So realistic looking and the context and all that. So what was I going to say? I got one more video. We've been talking a lot about. This is all over the Internet. We're talking a lot about unarmed civilians in police positions. Traffic, social workers. So this is a call. I'm going. Let it play out of a unarmed civilian worker encountering crime. See 122, you're an officer. Got one male with long hair, still shooting. Another shot just came. Another shot just came. Get shot at. Get in the house. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, you guys stay right there. I got you. He's still aiming. Put your book on.

[C]

You.

[A]

Just get hurt.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I got hit in the eye. I've been hit in the eye. I've been hitting the eye. I need. And he assisted nab. He hit the eye.

[A]

Feedback. Can't understand what you're saying.

[B]

Is.

[A]

Three, five, two.

[B]

Get up there. I got. I got you. Okay, Be careful. Take yourself CRU.

[A]

One, two, one. I'm with CRU 122. I'm in the vehicle.

[B]

Hey, CR 121. I'm hitting the face.

[A]

You got me in the eye.

[B]

You got me in the left eye

[A]

with you.

[B]

I'm coming.

[A]

He's behind a bush.

[B]

Drop the gun. Shots fired, Shots fired.

[A]

Blackmail with the rifle at the corner.

[B]

He's pointing the rifle at me. I don't have a shot. Hey, we need to develop. Good.

[A]

Oh, I would say just keep. Oh, is it over?

[B]

Oh, no, I was gonna keep going. I thought you said.

[A]

Oh, yeah, keep going and then. But keep it up and play it without sound while we break it down.

[B]

Okay. Oh, boy. Hold on. What do you.

[A]

What did you do?

[B]

I don't know. I gotta get back to that view. One of these. Is it one of these? I don't know which one it is because I moved it.

[A]

The one you skipped the plan to

[B]

get the CRU guy. Garage is open again. At the garage. He's at the garage. He's got a rifle. Let me see your hands. Back up and get cover. Shots fired. Shots fired. Everybody's gotta show everybody the shots. Fire.

[A]

Holy guacamole.

[B]

Yeah, so.

[A]

Okay, so lots to break down on that one. Just. Yeah, turn the sound off. But I'll let you go first.

[B]

Well, I. I easily default to. We see. What have we watched so far today? We got a guy throwing a guy down, punching people. We got violence. We got guns being stolen out of schools. We have all the things we see regularly in law enforcement. Overweight, fat sheriffs. The job is being taken not seriously. The job is absolutely dead with the hiring processes and all the de. Escalation stuff. And now somewhere in this kumbaya world, we've decided to introduce civilians into law enforcement positions where their cars are marked identically and they're out performing jobs to limit the. To decrease the workload of law enforcement.

[A]

And we love you. You report takers. You burglary takers. You're the man.

[B]

Not the answer. The. Not the answer. We are going backwards. We are getting softer.

[A]

We're.

[B]

We're. We're. We're not keeping up with the hiring practices standards. We're not putting strong men out on. On patrol to. To do these jobs. And now you have innocent civilians out doing police work, getting shot with rifles marked like cops.

[A]

But it is a pelican.

[B]

That's fine. Look what the damage it did does it matter?

[A]

I mean, kind of a little.

[B]

I mean, take the pellet gun out of it. He's shooting a gun. To me it just shows you, but it looks like a gun. The guy's in a gun fight.

[A]

No. Okay, well, I should ask, do they know it's a pellet gun in real time?

[B]

It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter. Guy got shot and he's bleeding from his face and he's calling out shots fired and they're shooting real guns back at him. So the point of this is, had it been a rifle, the dude's eye, if he got hit and I his eye would be three blocks away and he would have never even got a transmission out. My point, it's not the fact that it's a pelican or not a pelican. It's the fact that he got targeted because he looked like a cop. And we're putting out on the street. We have them, we have civilian traffic. Just now changed the car to say civilian traffic, bigger. But what are we doing?

[A]

If it was, you know, suicide by cop, he was probably like, dude, this guy can't kill me.

[B]

He's not shooting at me. What's going on?

[A]

That guy? Yeah, so. And the no training thing is huge. Somebody said they think he's a gunnery sergeant. That, that is amazing. That might as well be a produce shelf person at the grocery store because you don't. There's, there are two separate jobs. So what did translate is his discipline, his demeanor to stay calm. He looked and he helped somebody get out of the way. Like all those things probably came from 20 years in the Marine Corps. And I will say that, that, that's good. But how many times it's been, how many times have you been at the drain, the range and you do drills where you drop, you drop something, you have something in your hand, you're doing the ticket drill, right? Drop it, you go boom, boom, boom. Because you inherently, when you're freaking the out, you hold a citation book. Like he was the whole time, the whole time he was holding a book and he never thought, drop this thing, it doesn't matter anymore.

[B]

Well, and then I'm glad you take the military. Okay, now imagine that's a 22 year old college graduate. Or male or female, I'm not going to dunk on females. But male or female, no training in law enforcement, no military experience, college kid that they go here, go out here and serve this dog citation, or go out here and take this report or go out and do that crash Report and they start taking fire, and they get hit with even a pellet gun in the eye, in the face. They're. They're sitting duck. Can a pellet gun kill you? Absolutely. Close range, through your eye, in your brain. Like it. Regardless of what it is. Thank God it was only that. But the point of the story is, thank God it wasn't a real rifle. But we're putting civilians into positions where they look like law enforcement. We talked about it when we talked with the guys from New York about how they have entire units of females and. And these ticket writers and these social people that are dressed identical with the same patches, same gun belt, same everything, just no gun. Now you have in Texas, which everybody. Everything's bigger in Texas. We love guns in Texas. You have an unarmed civilian out doing police work. They're seen as a police officer.

[A]

They're.

[B]

Do you think John Tavius looks at him and goes, do I see a gun on him? No. He's driving a car that says police. He looks like a police. I'm ready to die by suicide by cop, whatever the situation is.

[A]

That bad guy had white guy written all over him. I didn't see who he was.

[B]

I said, blackmail with a rifle.

[A]

Oh, well, he couldn't see.

[B]

No, the other guy did.

[A]

I'm not gonna lie.

[B]

What's that?

[A]

You're the scene you probably watch over and over again. The fast roping scene in Black Hawk down where the new kid, Orlando Bloom, plays him, gets on the rope, and he falls. And it kind of creates the entire issue of the. You know. And they go, you know. And he's on the ground, and they're telling the sergeant on the ground. They're like, what's. He's like, what's wrong with him? He's like, he fell. And he goes, he fell. And they, like, can't believe. And they're like, they have to still. Like, I would be driving in my car because I've done it a million times. And you're hauling balls to something like this. And I'm like, he got shot in the eye. He's still talking like, it wouldn't change your route. It wouldn't change anything. It wouldn't change anything. But you're just those things, like ricochet.

[B]

It could have been like the round hit the.

[A]

What I'm saying is when you run code a hundred times in a year like that, you start. It becomes almost like you can do it, like, without having to think about it. And the weird things you think about, you're like, you got Shot in the eye and he's still talking.

[B]

But like here we have civilian and, and our, we're under qualified in law enforcement across the board. We see it every day. It's all over my page. We're seeing that we can't get regular law enforcement candidates. So in order to fill positions and get the job done, we're now hiring civilians under trained, not trained, not armed, to do law enforcement jobs. We can't get enough good cops. So our fix is, well, we're not, we're never going to get enough good cops. We lost that war. Let's just bring civilians in and have them do police related tactics in police looking uniforms with police looking cars. What could go wrong? We talked about it in Washington with a guy we had on and then he decided, I'd love to get him back on Sheriff Sanders and ask him, what in God's world would you put a unarmed guy in a car that looks like a cop and have him transport already arrested prisoners?

[A]

Not that part. I'm not transporting prisoners. But I am all for just civilians coming out. We are taking more reports as law enforcement every day than ever before because everybody gets a report. We're pandering to the public, telling someone, you're not getting a report for this, end of story and leaving.

[B]

Call it in, call it in.

[A]

Some departments can't do that because it's customer service. The sheriff said if you show up, you are not going to tell somebody. That being said, we are having to take more reports than ever before. Everything's falling into law enforcement and then everything falls into different types. Like if the city doesn't take it, the sheriff's deputy has to take it because he's their leader. Their sheriff is an elected official. So everything trickles down to the deputy taking a million reports. So when they go, and here's the other thing, people are smart, they're like, well, when they watch this, they probably think different. But they go, so wait, I can do get all the benefits of being a cop other than the 3% hazardous duty pay or whatever it's called of that retirement. That part. You're in a dangerous profession in the retirement.

[B]

Other than that,

[A]

Other than that, I can get all the same benefits and I don't have to worry about people,

[B]

you know what come you don't, you do have to worry about being killed. That's the other benefit.

[A]

You get tuned because they think they don't have to get. They're not gonna get. They're. They, they are told, they're probably briefed like, hey, anything could happen. But they're told that you are going to go to non violent crimes that are done with. With.

[B]

Let me tell you what happened. You want to know what happened? Law enforcement turned into a bunch of yep. Leaders turned into a bunch of yep and we stopped policing. Telling people that's not worthy of a report. Suck dick on the customer service. Go about your day, handle it like an adult. There are certain things that we, we cater to that are just not law enforcement related. So instead of telling people that we now everything, everything across the board, y' all get a report for my, my dog, somebody's dog in my yard, I want to report. No, we're not. And we're definitely not gonna, we're not gonna supplement cops with civilians that now we have to worry about dragging out of a shooting scene because they don't have a gun.

[A]

Here's the thing. Let's say you got to take the same amount of reports, right? Let's just say you can't change that no matter what. If you had competitive hiring where you have these things called boots that come in and they know they're gonna do boot time for five years, they're not told based on their gender, race or sexual orientation that they're gonna go other places because of something different about them. If you have people entering the job knowing that they're gonna do patrol for five years and they're gonna get a sandwich and they're gonna eat it every day as a boot, as a new guy, they take those reports. They're the ones that take the reports because you're out making arrests and you train them and then they're proud when they're two years in and they get a crop of guys come in. And now that is, that could sound like hazing to whatever, but that's how it rolls. That's how it does.

[B]

Let me tell you two words. I'm gonna, I'm gonna piggyback off that because I agree with 100 what you're saying. Two words that kill policing are de escalation and customer service both changed law enforcement. And everybody thought they had to jump on those two trains. They didn't need either word in law enforcement. Furthermore, what you said is the leadership has to be legit and back those boots on the ground and go, we're here to do police work. You're going to take some reports, but I got your back. We're going to make sure you're taken care of. We're going to train you very well. We're going to do the right thing. But you're not out here to get walked all over and have Karen screaming and pissing and spitting at you. Take her ass to jail. We have to back those guys so that it creates an environment where guys want to do the job and enjoy patrol. Because what's the main reason? Where are you most likely to get in trouble? Patrol. Where's the least amount of support from the command staff? Patrol. They're up your ass. They're looking to hang you on every corner. So a good core leadership of law enforcement with a good administration backs those guys to death when they do the right thing, when they do the wrong thing. You got to discipline them. But you can't get nitpicky.

[A]

Your car is not clean. Oh, you.

[B]

You. Oh, there's dust here. Oh, you're. You forgot to submit one report.

[A]

Like, you can't be up there.

[B]

You said on a call you. Yeah, I did, because called me every name in the book. You create that core law enforcement where the guys know they can go out and do their job, and it has to be done right. I'm still about professionalism and treating people fairly, but you have to support those guys. That creates a big hiring pool and a lot of people that want to work there.

[A]

And the hiring pool then sustains 10 years later into a retention. A good retention thing. What happens when you get a squad full of goons out there that just love patrol? There. There's. It is. It is demonized right now to love patrol. I got into police work because my dad was patrol. Well, he was canine his whole career, but he was. He still wore a uniform every single day. I saw it. That. That's. I wanted to be the guy in the uniform. I didn't care about investigations. I didn't care about any of that. And so when you have a pool of people still working there, still road dogs, still proud, so happy to be there when you. When the new guy's like, I can't. I don't understand this captain. He makes me shine my boots, and he yells at me for saying, but he wants me, but he's okay with me punching some dude in the face. And the road dog goes up to him and goes, let me explain it to you, man. Time and place. Like, we're gonna train you into a good cop. Because there's times when you show up and it's, yes, ma', am, no, ma', am. Oh, my goodness, while your boots look great, and then there's sometimes halfway through the shift where your boots are covered in Mud. And you say you. And you punch someone in the face. And he's like, here's how the captain's okay with it because you're in mid fight. Like there's. You just can't say when Karen pisses you off.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That stuff can't be. That has to be inherently trained in the new guys.

[B]

Yes. But what, but what happens is that you get. We had a case here where we caught him. God. Killed his girlfriend at a gas station, shot her point blank right in the head, fled. Our guys did an amazing job, pursuit, crash, put him in a canal, jumped and got all this. The guy arresting him said something like, you put your hands up something that killed somebody, like executed them. They never highlighted the arrest and put it in the press because the guy said, like, what planet are we living on? Like that. That type of police work needs to be highlighted and the public needs to know. Yeah. Our guys say every now and then to a guy that just murdered his girlfriend and shot her in the head. And during that, he said, don't move your hands or I'll kill you. That's what we say to people who just killed somebody. Now, you're right. If I go to grandma's house and grandma's like, oh, Sonny, my. My lawnmower got stolen. You grandma, we don't give a about your lawnmower murderers out there yet. You don't do that. You speak to them nicely. But there are times when you have to be violent and nasty to people because that's what the level that they brought you to. Not excessive force, not planning drugs. But you got to tell somebody, shut the up every now and then and if you move, I'll kill you. That's just how it works.

[A]

And I got told an FTO school, which is a joke. But what the one thing I did learn is I was, you know, I was, I asked, you know, you, you can't talk to people the certain way. I was like, if I'm in the hood, I talk to them a different way than I'm in the rich area. And the guy teaching the course, who I was disagree, agreeing with the whole time because he's actually a piece of. He goes, no, man, you're missing the point. That's called effective communication. You know it, you just gotta label it the right way. I was like, okay, that worked.

[B]

Yeah. Go down, go down the MLK and say, sir, how you doing, bro? Sir, can you. Yeah. See how far you get with that. See how far you get when they start you. And you try to stay to the sirs and yes, ma' am and all that. No. Hey, dude, shut the up. Like, I'm trying. You know, we're trying to have communication. Like, you're not listening. You got to get. You got to get like that sometimes times. And that's my. Like, today's episode I recorded for tomorrow talks about an administration at an agency other than mine. Different one where that mentality is across the board. There's, like, no wiggle room, and that's unrealistic. And then they make an example out of people that do get a little stern on calls and say some things, and they're like, oh, my God. Why would you say that? Well, the crackhead was screaming at me, calling me every name in the book. The yes ma' ams and the no ma' am stopped working, like, three minutes ago when they were just screaming over top of me. So elevated a little bit and said some. So they understand I'm not the guy. Like, I'm not the one. I'm gonna cuss back. I'm gonna call you a too. Like, that is unrealistic to think that that's not effective communication.

[A]

When all else fails, you just plant the crack in their pocket, take them to jail.

[B]

Yeah, that's easy. That's fine.

[A]

No, I'm just kidding, everybody. I'm just joking.

[B]

That was a pre body camera. You did that.

[A]

Sometimes I forget. Sometimes I forget. Law enforcement now, you call that pocket

[B]

crack or trunk crack. You go to the trunk, you get the drug test kit, and you're like, oh, man, what he got here, dude? What was in your pocket? No, we didn't do that.

[A]

All right, here's. Where's one secret for you young cops out there. Use at your discretion. You want to take somebody to jail, you articulate a reason to detain this person, you have to articulate it. I don't know your safety. I'm not there. As soon as they go like this. Resisting without violence,

[B]

young kids. Don't do that, please.

[A]

You'll hit lunch on time, you get an arrest that. That guy's off the street for the day.

[B]

Please don't do that. Please call me first.

[A]

Please.

[B]

Don't listen to Tyler about police work at all. He's very smart when it comes to podcasting and entertainment and. But don't. Don't, please.

[A]

You can't ever hire me if you're sheriff now, because somebody's gonna go back.

[B]

No, they're gonna be like, hey, did you hear this dude? Yeah.

[A]

They're gonna be like, you said on a podcast that you shouldn't hire.

[B]

Why is this unit called the Pocket Crack Unit? Like, what. How does he get involved with us?

[A]

All right, everybody, I'll. We'll, we'll. We're gonna get off here. We're gonna go over to Patreon so we can discuss in house stuff with the OGs. But all peered. All paid tiers will be in there. So go to Patreon. If you haven't signed up, sign up real quick and then go to Patreon and click the link, and then open that link and click the image of the thumbnail, and then open it in external browser, which is your YouTube app. And watch it that way sometimes. Every time we go do this, people can't get in for some reason.

[B]

Simple. So easy. Tyler could do it.

[A]

Simple. Jv team for life.