Squadcast (10/02/2025) Hegseth Shows No Mercy To The Fatties and the WEAK

Summary

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The Antihero Podcast

Squadcast (10/02/2025): Hegseth Shows No Mercy To The Fatties and the WEAK

Date: October 3, 2025
Hosts: Tyler, Mike, Jimmy

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode dives into a no-holds-barred discussion on modern standards and culture within the military, law enforcement, and society at large—riffing honestly (and sometimes harshly) about physical fitness, standards of performance, gender integration, questionable leadership, and the erosion of accountability. The Squadcast format brings the hosts' signature blend of irreverence, gallows humor, and real frontline experience to current controversies (with a recurring theme on the dangers of lowering standards for cultural or political reasons).

Episode tagline: “Part Delta Force. Part Street Cop. All Truth.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Physical Standards and the Hegseth Controversy

• Pete Hegseth’s Statement: The hosts respond to Fox contributor Pete Hegseth’s viral remarks demanding “no more fat people, no more weak standards” in military and law enforcement.
  • [01:26] Tyler: "The way he was doing it was, 'I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry... it is what it is, and it's what everybody's thinking.'"
  • [01:52] Jimmy: He celebrates a return to “1990s standards,” referencing when readiness defined the military post-Desert Storm.
• Lowered Standards Across Professions:
  • Shock at new, reduced physical benchmarks for police (e.g., only needing to run 1.5 miles in 19 minutes in New Jersey).
  • [05:13] Mike: “You gotta jump in the air, stand still, jump up 12 inches... that's like this high. 12 is like this much.”
• Personal Anecdotes: Hosts share their own running and PT times, poking fun at how standards have slipped.

2. Policing Changes: Accountability and 'Wokeness'

• Discussing Past Controversial Decisions: E.g., police chiefs and officers kneeling during BLM protests and mask/vaccine mandates.
  • [04:13] Mike: “I feel like... everybody can get it, but it's like, I know our sheriff's office didn’t kneel, but the local city police department did.”
• Debate on Officer Response to Aggression & 'Auditor' Videos:
  • Viral video breaks down where officers interact with civilians deliberately provoking them on camera.
  • [10:00] Mike: "If cops just walked away, every auditor would have zero content."
  • The group discusses whether it's better for police to disengage or to verbally handle provocateurs.
  • [10:49] Mike: “Just don’t entertain it.”

3. Societal Shifts, Law Enforcement & Military Standards

• Women in Combat & Law Enforcement:
  • Heavy skepticism over mandates for gender balance (such as the 30x30 Initiative, aiming for 30% female representation by 2030):
    • [132:09] Mike: “30 by 30 is the most dangerous initiative in history of law enforcement.”
  • Heated exchange about whether different standards for women are justified.
    • [127:31] Tyler: “I have no idea why we [have different standards].”
  • Hosts press that standards must be identical for the same jobs, regardless of gender, and lowering standards for any reason (gender, inclusivity, recruitment) is ultimately dangerous.
• Accountability Crisis:
  • Widespread anger at both “fat, out-of-shape” male cops and weak leaders who enable a culture without real performance expectations.
    • [144:21] Mike: “You fat men and out-of-shape piece-of- cops... men that women are in better shape than you... that is the biggest disgrace to law enforcement.”

4. Culture Wars: Government, Digital IDs, and Public Cynicism

• Digital ID Mandates in the UK:
  • [67:04] Jimmy: Warns of the loss of anonymity, likens it to “the mark of the beast.”
  • Concerns about overreach and how personal liberty is eroding in the name of safety or bureaucracy.
• Uprising and Rise of ‘Downfall’ Culture:
  • Tangent on YouTube/TikTok channels profiting off documenting the “downfall” of bands, podcasts, individuals (with the real-world example of people making fake drama for clout).
  • [87:41] Jimmy: “If you try, you’re gonna get taken down. That’s why I don’t try. I just tear those people down. Go yourself. You’re a goddamn coward.”

5. Morality, Ethics, and Brotherhood

• Real Talk on Loyalty in Police and Military:
  • Disappointment with colleagues who "sell their souls" for promotions or avoid defending others when it matters.
  • [116:17] Jimmy: “One day you go... I can’t, I can’t.”
  • [116:24] Mike: “They call you crazy. Off the rails. No, I’m a real one.”
• Reflections on Animal Ethics:
  • Stories about military and law enforcement use of animals for training, with conflicting views on animal welfare and necessity for realism in trauma care.
• Mentorship:
  • Heartfelt closing sharing stories of best mentors.
    • [151:10] Mike: “My mentor…my best friend, Christian Matheson. Twenty years, still take a crash report, do the right thing.”

6. Listener Interactions & Super Chats

• Regular interruptions for Super Chats—hosts have fun with recurring jokes (like the “five second rule” about whether brief ball contact between men is ‘gay’—[62:40]) and roast each other.
• Listeners engage directly on topics ranging from government shutdowns to specific cop scandals and career advice.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lowered Standards:
  • "[01:26] The way he was doing it was, 'I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry...it is what it is, and it's what everybody's thinking.'" —Tyler
  • "[19:19] You know what, you can't have Super Soakers anymore...because the government stepped in and said they're too dangerous." —Tyler
• On Auditors and Police Response:
  • "[10:00] If cops just walked away, every auditor would have zero content." —Mike
  • "[11:06] Sometimes you can't walk away as a cop. What if you're there lawfully?" —Tyler
• On Gender and Standards:
  • "[132:09] 30 by 30 is the most dangerous initiative in history of law enforcement." —Mike
  • "[134:36] Men will use more force if they're defending a female that is in a use of force incident." —Mike
  • "[144:21] You fat men and out-of-shape piece-of- cops... men that women are in better shape than you... that is the biggest disgrace to law enforcement." —Mike
• On ‘Downfall Fame’ & Public Cynicism:
  • "[87:41] Go yourself. You’re a goddamn coward. You’re a coward." – Jimmy
• On Brotherhood, Loyalty, and Betrayal:
  • "[115:24] That's what we're doing. We're dying together..." – Mike
  • "[116:24] They call you crazy. Off the rails. No, I'm a real one. That's what I am. And I'm not letting anybody change it." – Mike
• Five Second Rule Joke:
  • "[62:40] If your balls touch your buddy's balls, you got... it's a five second rule. Is it gay? Only if it's over five seconds, kids." —Mike
• Mentors:
  • "[151:10] My mentor...my best friend, Christian Matheson." —Mike
  • "[150:26] He said, 'When people ask you about the war, what do you tell them? ...It was everything you thought it would be, but it was nothing like you thought it would be.'" —Jimmy

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Important Timestamps

• [01:26]–[02:12]: Discussion begins on Hegseth’s call for tough standards
• [05:25]–[06:19]: Joking about shocking new fitness standards for police recruits
• [10:36]–[12:39]: Handling provocateurs and auditors—modern policing dilemmas
• [13:18]–[14:02]: Announcement for Badge of Unity charity event in Philadelphia (content resumes after)
• [67:04]–[69:37]: Rant against digital ID and freedom issues in the UK
• [87:41]: Rant on Downfall Culture—"Go yourself. You’re a goddamn coward."
• [132:09]–[142:19]: Detailed debate on women in policing/military (standards, politics, anecdotal experiences)
• [144:21]: Mike’s rant on out-of-shape male cops and leadership accountability
• [151:10]–[152:31]: Host mentorship stories—closing on positive notes

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Overall Tone

Raw, cutting, frequently darkly comedic, occasionally vulnerable, and intensely candid. The Squadcast delivers tough-love talking points and first-hand experience, peppered with military and street cop humor—unapologetically direct but grounded in a “for the tribe” brotherhood. Listener engagement is woven throughout with inside jokes, rants, and a general attitude of “we’ll say what everyone’s thinking.”

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For New Listeners

• What you missed: A wide-ranging, sometimes shocking but always genuine round-table on strength, honor, real leadership, and why standards matter—loaded with war/cop stories, pointed culture critiques (from “woke” policies to societal softness), and sharp banter.
• Who should listen: If you want unvarnished takes on policing, the military, and American culture—from people who lived it, not think-tanked it—this episode is a prime example of The Antihero Podcast at full force.

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Next Episode:
Tune in Mondays at 10am for the Antihero Broadcast—more current events, call-ins, and raw perspectives.

Badge of Unity Charity Event:
October 18th, Philadelphia—live panel with The Antihero Podcast crew.

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“I'm not letting anybody change it. I'm a real one.” — Mike [116:24]

If you can't handle all truth, this show might not be for you.

Transcript

[Mike]

And we're live.

[Tyler]

Welcome back to another Thursday night squad cast. Thursday nights for the boys. We just had a hell of a conversation. That's not meant for YouTube. But stick around. Lots of videos to break down. My phone's on. We're gonna talk about the war.

[Mike]

It's.

[Tyler]

Yeah. How was everybody's week?

[Mike]

Great.

[Tyler]

Great. Fantastic.

[Mike]

Great.

[Jimmy]

I had a great.

[Mike]

Pete said no more fat people, dude.

[Tyler]

That I. That. And he was like. The way he was doing it was, I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. He was like, hey, if women can't cut it. His literal words were, it is what it is, and it's what everybody's thinking. And he even said that in his speech. We gotta say what we're thinking.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, dude. It.

[Tyler]

The.

[Jimmy]

The amount of, like, hey, we're going back to, like, 1990s standards, which, you know, just does my heart good, because I've always been the guy that advocated, like. It was the 1990s army that came out of Desert Storm that absolutely had us crushing it for 10 years in the. In the desert, in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Mike]

And I. I don't know how the country got to the fact that I see the police standards where you can walk it. Like, where did we. How did we get to the point where I got sent a mile and a half time the other day from somewhere in Texas. It was a 1748 mile and a half or something like that.

[Tyler]

Wait, that's good, right?

[Mike]

Yeah, it's real good. Yeah, yeah. No. Seven mile and a half. No.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's pretty good. Two miles in 14 minutes is good.

[Mike]

Okay, so. So a mile and a half is less.

[Tyler]

Oh, I'm thinking math.

[Mike]

M, A, F, F. We're doing. We're doing math tonight.

[Jimmy]

Math.

[Mike]

No, to give you a no.

[Tyler]

Mile and a half. So I always try to run mine. I probably couldn't do it now. 12 minutes. Miami SWAT standard. If you can run a mile and a half in 12 minutes, you're good to go.

[Mike]

I ran it in 10, 4, 10 15.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's when we were doing our little challenge.

[Mike]

Yeah, I ran 10, 15.

[Tyler]

All of a sudden, he bumped up like a minute and a half.

[Jimmy]

My. My worst 2 mile time in my 20s was 1154.

[Tyler]

That's the worst. My best was 13 in the army.

[Mike]

Yeah, I ran a. I ran a sub 11.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I was. I mean, that was. That was a bad day. 11:50.

[Mike]

The only thing I could cut my. I couldn't max the push. I was a bean pole.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, me too.

[Mike]

I couldn't Max the push ups. I always got a 290.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I did the max of sit ups. Max the run. I could never Max the push ups.

[Jimmy]

And then later on in my career, I. I got to the point where I was like, dude, I can crush push ups and sit ups, but I'm not as fast.

[Mike]

Now you can be a fat transgender.

[Tyler]

Not anymore.

[Jimmy]

No, you cannot.

[Mike]

Good. Good. Any. And then what? The FBI followed all the Kneelers. George Floyd Kneeler. We didn't. We skipped right over.

[Tyler]

We did. Because you sent it to me. I didn't even know about it. Yeah, no, I didn't know that even happened.

[Mike]

Cos Patel fired. Fired. Everybody seen protesting the kneeling down.

[Tyler]

So he went back a couple years.

[Mike]

Yeah. Got rid of him.

[Tyler]

And so did they take like a famous photograph or something?

[Mike]

Yeah, if you go look.

[Tyler]

You sent me one.

[Mike]

There was one of the FBI. So he found every FBI agent. And then what? The rabbit hole I went down was I found all the local agencies in my area that all their cash.

[Tyler]

Fire these guys, too.

[Mike]

All of them.

[Tyler]

All of them.

[Mike]

I feel like. And I'm. I want to post it. I'm like, damn, dude. I know, like, five guys in that picture. Like, everybody can get it, but it's like, I know our sheriff's office didn't kneel, but the local city police department did.

[Tyler]

Oh, my.

[Mike]

You guys did.

[Tyler]

My old sheriff kneeled. I think he regretted it. I think I want to say he addressed it and said that was stupid to do or something like that. But, yeah, he fell victim. I remember seeing all the chiefs and sheriffs.

[Mike]

Vero Beach Police Department, where yet they. They knelt right on their front steps. Chief, Lieutenant, you know what?

[Tyler]

But we had also put masks on for Covid.

[Jimmy]

And see, I mean, like, that's really.

[Mike]

I got suspended for not wearing it.

[Jimmy]

I. I got fired from my job as a military contractor for not getting the jab. I would never wear a mask. I. I was like, no, no, no, I'm not.

[Tyler]

They made you wear masks overseas?

[Jimmy]

No, no, no. I. I couldn't even go back overseas because they're like, you can't deploy back until you get the vaccine.

[Tyler]

Oh, I thought you said because you wouldn't wear a mask.

[Jimmy]

And when I. When I was staying at home, you know, waiting, people like, you got to put this mask on, like to go into Publix and get a thing of fried chicken and walk down these areas like, I'm not doing it. I just make me.

[Mike]

I just got sent to New Jersey Physical fitness standards for a copy.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

You Ready? Hold on to your handrails. Was that saying at Disney?

[Jimmy]

Just be careful. If you go to Universal, you can die on the.

[Mike]

We got to talk about that vertical jump, 12.5 inches. What?

[Tyler]

I don't even know.

[Mike]

You gotta jump in the air more than 12 inches. That's like. That's like this high. 12 is like this much inches.

[Tyler]

Wait, wait, no, hold on. Wait.

[Mike]

You gotta jump in the air, stand still, jump up 12 inches. So you'd have to.

[Tyler]

Bottom of your shoe has to go.

[Mike]

Up or your hand goes up and touches it. Okay, 22 sit ups in a minute. 22300 meter run in 84 seconds. Which I could run the 400 and right at a minute, at 60 seconds. So 300 run in 84 push ups. Drum roll for this one.

[Tyler]

Let me guess, let me guess. 20.

[Mike]

19. 19. Damn it.

[Tyler]

19 push ups.

[Mike]

1.5 mile run for men. New Jersey. Yeah, this is men.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

1.5 mile run in 19 minutes. I don't even think I can set the treadmill that slow and stay on it without falling asleep.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, what kind of foot pursuit are you?

[Mike]

Tortoises, Jersey just had a real bad video come out of the dude getting his windshield smashed in by somebody on the hood of his car in Jersey. He's just driving the car and there's some dude on the hood smashing.

[Jimmy]

Turn on the windshield wipers.

[Mike]

Watching the windshield.

[Tyler]

So let's. Let's head up Instagram for a video. The one I just showed you. This is. This is typical. I want to say it's Boston. I can't remember. But this guy. I mean, the fact that you. The. The street cop is dead, my ass. This dude would have been laying on his back and I would have justified it somehow.

[Mike]

I'm street. Sidewalk. So what? Uncle. He's baffled. No, I don't have to.

[Jimmy]

I don't have to.

[Tyler]

Lock me up, please. No, I don't have to.

[Mike]

I don't have no gun on me. You have the gun. Don't you tell me.

[Tyler]

Don't.

[Mike]

Don't have.

[Jimmy]

Don't tell me.

[Mike]

What the. Did you ever do in your life? Oh, I'd be fired. I don't work for you. It works. And I'm telling you, don't tell me what to do. Ever.

[Tyler]

Tell me you have a bad day.

[Mike]

That's why you can't.

[Jimmy]

Walking. Walking.

[Tyler]

All right, so, yeah, let us know if it was quiet in the comments. Let us know if. If it was quiet. But it. I mean, I could hear it enough to know for a fact that I can articulate that there's things in that trunk that could harm me and be used against me. That guy is going to. He's getting a verbal warning to get back, and then he's being shoved right on his tailbone off the curb that he's probably standing on. Yeah, like that. If. If that was my trunk, I know I've got weapons in there or things that can incapacitate me.

[Mike]

Then you could shut it.

[Tyler]

But it's open.

[Mike]

Shut it.

[Tyler]

Oh, God, Mike, you're such a liberal.

[Mike]

Shut this. Shut the trunk. And now you have no problem.

[Tyler]

Now are you speaking like a chief?

[Mike]

I'm gonna kneel down sort of here.

[Tyler]

Jesus God.

[Mike]

I'm just. I'm speaking from the other side. That would be the answer. You have to tolerate that. You have to put up with that filming. It's the fact. Okay, so he was hostile. Do you have the lawful right to. Yeah, but hostile. He can say whatever he wants. It's America, you heard.

[Tyler]

I think with a war on cops now, you have to be a little bit more careful of people's intentions. So it's not just like somebody going pig and flicking you off. Like, this guy was clearly looking for a fight.

[Mike]

He was. But I think, what if that guy.

[Tyler]

Pulled out a gun and just mowed down that.

[Mike]

What if. What if a guy runs in here and pulls a gun? What if they parachute him?

[Tyler]

Well, I lock the door, then I'll shove him out.

[Mike]

So my gun today. Either.

[Tyler]

We're saying. So you're saying that this cop has to stand there and take that.

[Mike]

I think that as that if I'm gonna look.

[Tyler]

If you look like before.

[Mike]

If you want five year Mike, cop Mike from five, when I was five years in my career, I'd punch him in his mouth. That's not gonna fly anymore. Back then you could just dump them on and be like.

[Tyler]

But you can't articulate a way for him to get away from you.

[Mike]

No, it's right. Right there. I don't see you. He's on the sidewalk. He's on the sidewalk and you got your trunk open. And the longer you engage, just like these auditors, the longer you. If that cop never responded, shut the trunk, got in the car and drove away. That dude's video gets zero views.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The engagement that he gave that dude creates the video. So the. Unless you're gonna get real slick at the mouth like I get, and start using, like, real good insults and get back.

[Tyler]

That's always fun.

[Mike]

That is. And that's fine if you're gonna get slick at the mouth, and your agency boss is not gonna support you. But if you're somewhere where you're allowed to get slick at the mouth, be like, yeah, nice teeth, dude. Or make. Make fun of his hair or something. Or tell him his Jordans are fake. They love that one. I always used to say, hey, man, your Jordans are fake. What the jump man. His legs are backward. Of course, it's just one direction. I would just say, your jump man's backwards. These ain't fit. And it was like, that would set. So if you're not going to talk, there's no reason to engage because all that's going to do is get you on right there. There's nothing good coming out of that as a cop. Just walk away. Just. Just don't entertain it. It's kind of like the bullshit we deal with. Just don't entertain it.

[Tyler]

What say you, Jim Bob?

[Jimmy]

I say that he's busy in his phone.

[Mike]

My.

[Jimmy]

My wife was like, hey, it's really, really low, by the way.

[Mike]

Like, all the audio.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, no, no, just. Just the Instagram video. But honestly, I mean, like, at what point do you just. I mean, like, that guy's clearly looking for a fight. Like, you win all the gunfights, you don't get into. Like, I'm kind of with Mike on this one. Like, I'm gonna walk the dude. Whatever, dude.

[Mike]

Every auditor would have zero content if cops just walked away.

[Tyler]

Sometimes you can't walk away as a cop. What if you're there lawfully?

[Mike]

That's different. That's completely.

[Jimmy]

He was clearly, you got a crime.

[Mike]

You'Re in a crime scene. Yeah, he's doing dumb anyway. If you got a crime scene and that guy comes up, tries it, that changes the dynamic of. But some dude just walks up to motherfuck you because he knows he's going to get a rise out of you. And if, you know, I've watched that dude multiple times, he likes to say, like, have a bad day. You work for me. That's just getting the ride. And all that's got to do for him is get on his hood Instagram account, grab some views, everybody shares it, and that's all he's looking for. If you just turn around and walk away or start talking, and then it doesn't go as well for him. So I'm an advocate for either one, but that's not the answer is. Is looking like.

[Tyler]

People ask me, tyler, why'd you retire early?

[Mike]

That's why.

[Jimmy]

Or I mean, do you remember the Westboro Baptists. Do you remember those?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Are they still around?

[Jimmy]

I don't know.

[Mike]

Netflix, about that.

[Jimmy]

Them.

[Mike]

Them, Them.

[Jimmy]

Like, if you're still a Westboro Baptist, I hope you die a fiery death.

[Tyler]

Are they, like, mentally ill?

[Jimmy]

I think so, man. Like, they were calling people's widows and grieving moms and dads and being like your son.

[Tyler]

They were against the war, right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. They weren't just against the Everything.

[Mike]

Right.

[Jimmy]

They were against. It didn't matter.

[Mike]

You weren't having sex with.

[Jimmy]

They were. They were showing up to the funerals of.

[Tyler]

I remember that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And it was like. Like, guys were grieving their buddy that was killed, and they were like, God hates, and you're all going to hell.

[Tyler]

I know. I remember, but I just, like. I remember thinking, like, maybe. I thought maybe they were anti war, but they were just. Then I realized they're mentally ill. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, and that's the kind of right there where it's like, I'm sorry. You know, you should have to be held accountable for the fucking words that come out of your mouth. And you say some dumb shit, you get fucking tuned up for it.

[Mike]

That's where the whole freedom speech argument comes in, though.

[Tyler]

We should be. We should just follow cops around, and then when they. People like that get in their face, beat them up, we go, hey, get out of here. And we just tune them up.

[Mike]

No, they won't get arrested. We're gonna end up getting arrested.

[Tyler]

They would arrest us.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, they would.

[Tyler]

That cop would actually come back with his tail tucked and go, I have to arrest you.

[Mike]

Yeah, sorry, but thanks for just sticking up on me, but I work.

[Tyler]

My boss says I have to.

[Mike]

I work in a liberal Disney City. So you have to go to jail now?

[Jimmy]

Disney.

[Tyler]

Ah, speaking of traveling and not getting in trouble, we are going to Philadelphia. I'll have a flyer up soon, but October 18th, we'll be in Philly for the Badge of Unity charity event.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

We'll be doing a live panel.

[Mike]

It's gonna be fun.

[Tyler]

Yeah. It's $50 a ticket, but it's all. It's for charity.

[Mike]

Fetty Philly, man. We can go out to people overdosing.

[Tyler]

On Fentanyl, dude, remember? Oh, you didn't go our first show in Philly. We. They. They took us through, like, skid row of Philly.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, I've never seen anything like that.

[Mike]

It's bad. Bad. It's really bad.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So I follow a couple accounts. That's all they do is walk around Philly in the Video and it's pretty bad.

[Tyler]

So what's to do with this roller coaster? Jimmy?

[Mike]

Oh.

[Jimmy]

Oh, God. All right, so we got, we got the. We got the most recent information, which.

[Tyler]

First of all, this happened at Universal.

[Jimmy]

It didn't happen at Universal. It happened at Epic Universal.

[Tyler]

It's the second universe. Yeah, I opened up. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So not the big one, not the, not the main. Universal.

[Mike]

Universal. Islands of Adventure and now this one.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Island of Adventures. Universal.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. It is. So Epic Universal has a roller coaster. And that roller coaster is called the Stardust Racers. Now here's what I don't understand because I've looked through four different news articles and tried to figure it out. Everybody says the same thing. The cause of death was repeated blunt force trauma. What does that mean? Was he like dangling off and just getting smacked in the head by some. What, what happened to this gentleman? So his name was. And let's say his name is Kevin Rodriguez Zavala. Right. Poor guy. I mean, so, and, but here's the thing. Like, I can totally believe that, like Universal, I mean, they, the, the family said, like he came off the roller coaster, he was covered in blood.

[Tyler]

So he got off and he was alive?

[Jimmy]

No, no, he, like when the roller coaster came to a stop, he's unconscious in the seat, covered in blood. Blood's all on people behind him. You know, you can imagine what that wasn't.

[Mike]

Halloween Horror nights. Like a ride. I love it. Do it again.

[Jimmy]

Jesus Christ. And so he slumped over a kid. The dude was in a wheelchair.

[Tyler]

Is there any video of this?

[Mike]

Wait a second. Hold on, hold on. The rider was in a wheelchair to start.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And he went on a roller coaster?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, he had spiral bifida. Wait, what the.

[Mike]

Are you sure this is real?

[Jimmy]

It's real. Real. I mean, this isn't like. I'll tell you what.

[Tyler]

Really badly.

[Jimmy]

I will read you the New York Post article right here. Roller coaster riders family accuses Universal of. Why. Why I hate these pop ups.

[Mike]

So they put a dude in a wheelchair on a roller coaster and they're blaming anybody but themselves.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, like, there's a picture of him right before he got on the ride. Like, I mean, what does him being.

[Tyler]

Being paralyzed have to do?

[Mike]

He's already in bad shape.

[Tyler]

I mean, he's in worse shape now.

[Mike]

Like, was there a handicap line for roller coaster?

[Jimmy]

I mean, there is actually, if you, if you've ever been there. And so they, they're. The family is accusing at Universal of missing multiple warning signs. I don't know what Warning.

[Mike]

He's in a wheelchair. Sign number one.

[Tyler]

Oh my God.

[Jimmy]

Oh my God. I mean, so I, I mean, like, I want to know what those warning signs were. Was it like, hey, I almost got decapitated on this ride. Maybe you should get rid of the swinging saw. Bl.

[Mike]

I mean, I got to see this to believe it.

[Jimmy]

Dude, I'm universal.

[Tyler]

Did they shut the.

[Mike]

No, they just fast passed everybody.

[Tyler]

That's a legitimate question. Did they shut down the park?

[Jimmy]

I don't know if they shut down the park. I'm actually gonna.

[Tyler]

I remember in Orlando, on the other side of the city, they had the guy, they had the thing that fell.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And the guy fell out of it.

[Mike]

Because that was bad. My wife flipped about that. Don't laugh. She was bent about that. He came right out of it. Yeah, see, now you're laughing.

[Jimmy]

So I, I mean, you know, here's.

[Tyler]

He should have been in a wheel.

[Jimmy]

Here's the thing though, like the, the family said, like the, the, the, the poor 18 year old minimum wage workers that were there running the roller coaster were not prepared for the emergency.

[Mike]

I'm just going to show you the picture of him before he got up. He should not have been on the roller coaster. He, he should not have been on the roll.

[Jimmy]

I mean, like, I'm, I'm sorry. Shouldn't have been. But you know what? They let him on. So they prayer after, yeah, we're all going to hell. But then the lawyer comes out and says like, we need the government. The government needs to come in here.

[Mike]

Sound like that? I, I don't know. Why does he sound that? Why do you have that?

[Tyler]

Yeah, what?

[Jimmy]

The government?

[Mike]

Yeah. Why does he have the government accent?

[Jimmy]

I don't know. Because that's anybody that I ever hear talking about, we need the government. Like, what, what are you trying to say, Mike? Go ahead, say what you're trying to say.

[Mike]

He looked black. The lawyer looked black in the picture. So I thought, I thought maybe that was your black, your black lawyer accent.

[Jimmy]

Oh, dude, now I'm.

[Tyler]

Oh, no.

[Jimmy]

He was like, we need the government to come in here.

[Mike]

Oh, he changed his accent. He's not black anymore. He's white again.

[Jimmy]

What do I need to do? Like, do I got to go like Robert Downey Jr. And Traffic Thunder?

[Tyler]

That right there. He's even come out and said that he could never do that nowadays.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but, but I mean, like Jamie Foxx is like. I thought it was the funniest thing ever. I was the one that told him, yeah, you gotta do it. Yeah, that was, I mean, and he got. And I mean, like there's.

[Tyler]

So he stayed in character too.

[Jimmy]

What's funny is he was. They have like this meme of like the five highest, highest paid black actors in Robert Downey Juniors.

[Mike]

Oh, it's Ben Crump already.

[Tyler]

Why are they gonna make this racial?

[Mike]

Of course.

[Jimmy]

Oh, wait, no.

[Tyler]

Ben Crump, the guy. Epic.

[Mike]

He's white. No, he's not. He's Hispanic. And it says the family joined by civil rights attorney Ben Crump. The family had a press conference.

[Jimmy]

What the.

[Tyler]

Did Ben Crump.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so for those people that don't live in Florida, who the is this guy?

[Mike]

Ben Crump is the guy, man. He's the. He immediately represented Al Sharpton. Yeah, he represented. Immediately represented the Jacksonville kid that got punched in the face. He is just notorious for.

[Tyler]

But it's a, it's a totally different level.

[Mike]

It doesn't matter. Money talks. He's a well known attorney, makes money, makes waves.

[Jimmy]

Have social media guarantee he's doing it pro bono.

[Mike]

Yes. Yeah, he's gonna get. They're gonna get. I mean, they're gonna get paid from Reading.

[Tyler]

They're gonna be paid without a lawsuit.

[Mike]

Free fast passes.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Universal's gonna settle.

[Mike]

Lifetime fast.

[Jimmy]

But, but I mean, the, the fact that like that, that this guy's like, we need the government to come in here and regulate theme parks. I don't, I don't see the government helping theme parks.

[Mike]

Now.

[Tyler]

That's what he said.

[Jimmy]

That's what this guy. That's what Ben Crump is advocating.

[Mike]

He's a Democrat.

[Tyler]

You know what? We, you know, we can't have Super Soakers anymore. When we were kids, you know, you can't find them because the government stepped in and said they're too dangerous. Super Soakers.

[Mike]

You can have a switch though, right?

[Tyler]

You can have a what?

[Mike]

A Glock switch. The gun. Guns aren't dangerous.

[Jimmy]

But he's. Mike, he's not a gun guy.

[Tyler]

Oh, no. But what's that have to do with a Super Soaker?

[Mike]

Like I'm saying, it looks like a gun, right?

[Tyler]

Super Soaker is dangerous because you could pump it up 40 times and then jet stream some kid in his eye. Yeah, that's why they're dangerous.

[Jimmy]

Well, I, I thought it was because you could put gas in them and put a light, you know, lighter underneath it and have a flamethrower.

[Tyler]

That might be it too. Did you ever do that?

[Jimmy]

I may or may not have done that in the 90s.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I was too.

[Mike]

What's wrong with him? He's huffing the gas, dude.

[Jimmy]

Dude, if I told you stories about what I was doing in the 90s, it would. It would blow your mind. Like, I. I was trying to launch lizards across the lake in my model animals. Oh, animals, dude, we got a thousand lizards here.

[Mike]

We don't hurt animals here.

[Jimmy]

They survived.

[Tyler]

The little lizards that run around here everywhere. Do you consider them animals? Yeah, well, I know they're.

[Mike]

Technically, I'm not gonna, like, intentionally hurt it.

[Jimmy]

I didn't intentionally hurt.

[Mike]

I'll hit a tree going 50 trying to swerve out of the way. One of those things, man.

[Tyler]

God.

[Mike]

I get, I get.

[Moderator]

Hey, you.

[Jimmy]

You're a big fan of the animals.

[Tyler]

I like, big fan of the animals. How do you justify eating them? I. Now there is that funny billboard that.

[Mike]

Says, yeah, yeah, draw the line right between the horse and the. And the horse and the cow. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like it because if my, if my Instagram, I don't watch them. My Instagram algorithm is very one way right now. It's really. You know what it is. But when I don't.

[Tyler]

Don't put me in. Mine's cleaned up.

[Mike]

Dude. I didn't say anything bad. I just say, you know what it is when I get into, like, the pigs getting, like, put in the slaughterhouse, I am done.

[Tyler]

Well, if you watch Instagram, that's all.

[Mike]

I will delete Instagram. That drives me crazy. So I guess, like, I. It's kind of like when you, like, you know, remember taking a dog to Humane Society, you feel bad for a dog. You pick it up and you're like, man, how many dogs are out there right now?

[Jimmy]

Did you ever. Did you ever do, like, the. The live tissue trainer, like OEMs or D Mark that? Dude, I. I did. Oh, yeah, OEMs.

[Tyler]

And, well, they keep them knocked out, right?

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, they. They. I mean, dude, I. I had a pig that I had to keep alive for the whole day while they were shooting with shotguns and cutting from more arteries.

[Mike]

That's ridiculous. Oh, that's absolutely ridiculous.

[Jimmy]

I had to do it for the whole day, man, out in Hawaii.

[Tyler]

Did he stay alive?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I kept him alive. I was there. I mean, like, I. I went.

[Tyler]

I mean, like, name him. No, no, but I don't want to get too personal.

[Jimmy]

No, but, like, when we. Well, like, so at the end of the day, right? So they. Normally, they'll take them out to the range and they'll be like, all right, this is what A gunshot wound looks like. This is what a femoral artery cut looks like. You know all that, right? And at the end of the day, right, you're out.

[Tyler]

Mike's reaction to this.

[Jimmy]

At the end of the day, they are like the last time at the range because you're just sitting there on the range and you're just hearing. Hear a grenade go off and you're like, God, these pigs are. I mean, and it was a horror.

[Tyler]

What are they. Are they. Are they awake?

[Jimmy]

The pigs are asleep. No, the pigs are knocked out.

[Tyler]

How are they hitting them with grenades if they're laying there?

[Jimmy]

They just put them on the ground and then they throw grenades into the middle of this group of pigs that is knocked unconscious so bad.

[Mike]

That's terrible.

[Jimmy]

Just shoot them with shotguns. Dude, I came up to a pig. It's hoof was hanging off, the mouth was open, eyeballs hanging out. And you gotta keep them alive. We gotta keep him alive.

[Mike]

You know, you.

[Jimmy]

And you had to keep them alive for an hour.

[Tyler]

You know, they do those. The medics courses out of Camp McCall at Fort Bragg where you do the Special forces medic training. And they, they. They do stuff like that. And PETA is always trying to figure out where it's at so they can go protest.

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm going, That's it.

[Tyler]

You don't believe in. In learning how to do better medicine on animals that are asleep and can't feel it?

[Mike]

Nope. What about, like, testing animal on animal.

[Tyler]

Like women shampoo on animals?

[Mike]

Fuck that. That's terrible, man.

[Tyler]

Why? We tested on ourselves.

[Mike]

That's great. There's no, no, the animal that didn't. I'm so. You can call me soft what you want, but the animal didn't deserve it.

[Tyler]

Sometimes I feel. Do you. Are you one of those people that think animals are better than people?

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

See, I just. Your dog down with that.

[Mike]

Lock your wife in the trunk for an hour and then lock your dog in the trunk for an hour's happy.

[Tyler]

To see you don't lock your dog in the trunk, by the way.

[Mike]

So lock your wife in the trunk for an hour, and when you open the trunk, you're dead. You lock your dog in the trunk for an hour, and when you open that thing, you're the. His best friend again. He jumps out, he's happy to see you. Animals are by far better than people.

[Jimmy]

Dude, we. We have an outdoor cat named Gus, little orange cat. And we got home late.

[Mike]

We shot him with guns. We pulled his eyes out around the range.

[Jimmy]

No, we so Me and my wife got home. We got home from late from this. And I'm pulling everything out of the truck and I. I put it in and Gus is outside and I close all doors to the truck. We didn't go into that truck till one o' clock the afternoon. The next day, guess who was stuck in the truck?

[Mike]

Gus.

[Jimmy]

Gus. He was fried. Oh.

[Tyler]

Killed him.

[Mike]

Oh, no.

[Jimmy]

He's still alive. Doing fine, by the way. Gus, I can. I will provide proof on Instagram, but yeah, he got. He got into the truck when we didn't know and we closed the doors and he was stuck in there for a good 14 hours and. And I had to like, nurse him back to health. That's the only time I've ever seen my wife freak out. My, my. My five year old son damn near slices his toe off. Blood's everywhere. My wife's cool, Gus. She free.

[Mike]

I get it. See, I. I understand. I understand. I get that completely. I haven't had. No, it's not. I don't know. You know what? Here's what I think happened. Here's what I think happened. I would. You know, we had family dolls as a kid, but nothing I was really attached to.

[Jimmy]

Did this start at Noah's Ark?

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Back when we put two animals on the ark. One, two by two.

[Tyler]

That was when Mike was a cop.

[Mike]

I was patrolling. I was patrolling the Ark one day, right? And we were trying to get the last two mosquitoes on, but I didn't have like family dog as a kid. We really. I really didn't have that. So I didn't get my. I didn't have my first dog until I was a. Until 2000. 2019 during COVID I had to do. And I had to put that dog asleep.

[Tyler]

How that fast?

[Mike]

Well, I had him for like five or six years, but it was during that time he got Lyme disease and I had to put him to sleep. Mother's Day of 2022.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

And I had never experienced that, like, as a kid, we didn't like the dogs. Like, we just. I don't remember that as a kid. We didn't have a dog for a really long time. We just didn't have animals. So that was the first time where I had my own dog. And it was like the dog went through a divorce with me. Like, that thing was like ride or die. So here I am.

[Tyler]

Did he hate that too?

[Mike]

Yeah, he chose. He chose me over her. So when I had to put that dog to sleep, that was the moment that, like, that was it as an adult, like 44 year old male is like, this is the first time. I'm like, the dog, all the songs.

[Tyler]

Was he savable?

[Mike]

No, I. I spent about. I maxed out two credit cards trying to save them. And finally on Mother's Day, Sunday, closed. Vet, female vet. I called her at her house. She said, I will drive in. She looked at me and said, you're gonna have to max another credit card. Drive him down, attempt this, that and the other. And I was like, well, today's a day. Like, I'm sorry, I can't, I can't do it again. It was like I was up, I was in like 15 grand.

[Tyler]

You're not worth it anymore.

[Mike]

I'm like, I can't. I was like, his collar's right here. Bentley. So there's a collar. And that was it.

[Tyler]

Dude, not a lot of laughs on it. Look, I said, doc, three credit cards is my limit.

[Mike]

So I'm just saying, like, at some point I realized, okay, like. And he was suffering. So it's like I did. She said, I don't even know if you're going to be able to save him when you. The key words were that. Were. He was screaming all the way to the. He's screaming. His left leg was cold. He had like lost circulation in his left rear leg. So I'm like dealing with that. And I'm like looking at her going, so I'm gonna have to put him back in the car, drive another 40 minutes on a Sunday to like all that hit me. And I was just like, I can't wait. I can't listen this dog scream anymore. And I can't do it.

[Jimmy]

So wait a minute. You let the vet put your dog to sleep?

[Mike]

I was with. I held him. But yes. I don't put a gun to his head and blow his head like you, like you rednecks, do I?

[Jimmy]

No, I, I have.

[Mike]

I know. You know.

[Tyler]

Okay, that's what I was gonna ask. Where, like when, like back in, when Paul would take Spot out back and.

[Jimmy]

And just knock Yeller.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, shoot him. But I mean, I couldn't do that.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Tyler]

So, I mean, there's more humane ways to do it and they'll do it for like 200 bucks.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, see, but if you don't have 200 bucks.

[Mike]

Yeah, 30 odd 6 works really good.

[Jimmy]

9 millimeter fine too, by the way.

[Tyler]

Goodness. God.

[Mike]

Dude, this guy. What?

[Jimmy]

Dude. So I had a dog, okay, what.

[Tyler]

If it was free?

[Jimmy]

What if it was free? Then yes, I would do it that way.

[Tyler]

What if it was a hundred dollars.

[Mike]

Two hundred is his limit. Two credit cards.

[Jimmy]

First of all, it really has nothing to do with the dollar value. For me, it was very much.

[Tyler]

I just wanted to kill an animal.

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

God, you. Dude, I had that dog.

[Mike]

That's it.

[Jimmy]

I had a dog.

[Mike]

Your dog's sick? Yeah, he's out in the parking lot shelters. I'll take him. He's out front watching cars go by with dogs in the back. That dog looks sick. That dog looks sick.

[Jimmy]

Oh, man, you guys suck, dude. I mean, I. I went to Iraq. I felt worse about killing dogs than we. I did. I had to kill a dog in Iraq, and I felt worse about that than I did.

[Tyler]

You guys want to hear a sick story?

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Nah, I don't think Mike's ready for it.

[Mike]

I'm worried about Gus. Is Gus okay now?

[Jimmy]

Gus is alive and well. I'll send. I'll have my wife sent.

[Tyler]

It was an Iraq story.

[Mike]

Good. Do it.

[Moderator]

All right.

[Mike]

I can handle it.

[Tyler]

All right. So we. We show up and we are living out of these shitty ass buildings. They called it jss belladiot in the Belladiot district of Baghdad, Iraq. We get there and there happens to be. There's a lot of dogs in Iraq. They're all wild dogs. They're not dangerous typically, but they are. Like squirrels are here. And. And there was a. There was a. One had puppies, like brand new baby puppies. And of course, we just got there. Life sucks. You're eating one or two MREs a day and no, it was probably two. I'm not gonna try to say I was only one, but, you know, like, life sucks. You haven't showered, the showers aren't working, and puppies are there. And it's like, oh, my God. So all these hardened infantry guys are like playing with puppies. And it was happy for a minute. So the first sergeant came and snapped all their heads off, picked up one, picked up the one that we were playing with and went and threw it like 30 yards. And he goes, welcome to Iraq. And I was like, oh, my God. I was like 19 years old. And that was stuck with me.

[Mike]

Now I know what the fucking problem is, so it all makes sense.

[Jimmy]

So we didn't have Seth.

[Tyler]

Do you think he'd support that?

[Jimmy]

No, I. I don't. And neither would I, by the way, because we had a dog named Demon. She did have puppies. And we sent them to other JSS's.

[Mike]

Around with 9 millimeters in their head and without the.

[Jimmy]

The. The dogs. The dogs were Fine. The cats were a problem.

[Tyler]

The cat, I don't think we had any cats.

[Jimmy]

We had an infestation of cats and they got into our food. And the first sergeant said shotguns and 9 millimeters, only men. And we went around the JSS that night and killed probably about 50 cats and threw them into the burn pit.

[Mike]

I could do that.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Mike]

Cat. Catty. That, that's, that's, that's, that's different.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so.

[Tyler]

Okay. All right, all right.

[Mike]

That's a. That's.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Mike]

I mean, mission must go on. Yeah, I'm okay with that. But I do when I go to like dogs. Yeah, I'm done. Jamaica, Mexico, whenever I go, me and my wife will buy like 10 extra chickens at the Marine lunch and go around and feed all the stray dogs.

[Tyler]

You have a profound impact on those dogs.

[Mike]

Yeah. For that day.

[Tyler]

This guy Mike's cool.

[Mike]

It's like going to a strip club, man. That one, that one minute you're. That one hour you're in there, man, you have profound remembrance of that and that, and then you don't remember it anymore.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

And don't forget to join the Patreon. We are very active in the Patreon.

[Tyler]

A lot more active.

[Mike]

I'm in there answered messages. We're posting videos daily in there in the Patreon. We appreciate all your support there. And don't forget, Mondays 10am the anti hero broadcast is live every Monday where we have call in feature, text in feature. Current events are going on. It's a much different format of the show and it's been very successful so far. We're real excited about it. So make sure you tune in Mondays 10am and get in the Patreon. Sometimes I even take my shirt off in there and like, flex. I know you guys want to see.

[Tyler]

That he's not in the Patreon because he doesn't get a about.

[Mike]

No, you don't care about you.

[Jimmy]

I don't have access to the Patreon. You could give me access to the Patreon.

[Tyler]

God. To give Mike access.

[Mike]

Oh, we got the password change today, too. You were mad at me.

[Tyler]

What?

[Mike]

Let me. Give me the camera. I accidentally.

[Tyler]

No, you didn't accidentally. You purposely logged out.

[Mike]

I accidentally. So Tyler's not been mad at me yet. I don't think, since we know he was mad. You know when your wife says she's not mad at you and he really is and there. You're short.

[Tyler]

I'm not Nippy.

[Mike]

Was trying to do something and I logged out the Anti Hero Instagram from the. From the computer. And then he couldn't get back in. And I got the wife treatment.

[Tyler]

Okay. So to be fair, for Mike, it was doing something crazy where it was not allowing us, like, we had to shut down that computer in order to get back into it. But yes, because when there's a catastrophe right before a live show, it's like, now all the focus is going. I mean, because you. We can't not have the Instagram. It just.

[Mike]

It was good. It was good. It was like, now I know the, you know, I know the boundaries Now I know where. I know what to look for. I know the signs and signals, dude.

[Tyler]

I've either got Asperger's or autism. I'm telling you, don't log out of my.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was great. It was great. It was. The march across the room. It was a sick. What are you trying to do? Even. Anyway, it was a whole thing. It was really good.

[Tyler]

I. I'm on my way here and Mike calls me. I missed one. Calls me. How do you get the camera to work? I tried to stream my stream. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm trying to stream my stream. I'll be there in a minute. I load up the beer from the 7 11. I show up two minutes later, I'd.

[Mike]

Brennan up my ass.

[Tyler]

Brennan's sitting there. I'm like, what's Brennan doing here? I'm like, hey, what's up, man? You come to live and I guess.

[Mike]

Now they're my friend.

[Tyler]

No, just. Just streaming with Mike.

[Mike]

I'm like, you guys, it was a whole situation. It was really good. So I. I got. I got the. I got to feel the. The vibe. When Tyler's not happy.

[Tyler]

I just frust.

[Mike]

We've driven hours and hours together all the way to D.C. and Ohio, and I don't think you mad at me once.

[Tyler]

I wasn't mad at you even when you want to.

[Mike]

Even like when you ripped a fucking fuel pump out of the thing, man. It was good. So now I know. I know the boundary. I know the password.

[Tyler]

Hey, at least you're an Instagram now.

[Mike]

I got locked out of my phone and I'm too scared to ask you for the code again.

[Tyler]

You got locked out again?

[Mike]

It locked me out of my phone. Yeah. So soon I'll have answers to the anti hero Instagram, but for now, Patreon, I'll be in there talking.

[Jimmy]

Jesus Christ.

[Mike]

Jimmy just doesn't care. He's not logged in any social media.

[Tyler]

He says. Jimmy says, when these people comment, they're such losers. I hate him. And he goes, just like that.

[Mike]

Jimmy's our social media fighter. He's in the combat. Yeah, we've all got something. We do. I do nothing. Tyler does all the editing and all the hard work and Jimmy does the arguing. And I just.

[Tyler]

Well, one thing. Jimmy is like. He's good at being in the car. It's driving me crazy. Jimmy, can you straighten me up on the camera?

[Moderator]

I was about to say, yeah, I.

[Mike]

Think it keeps moving.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Is it me or is it. Is it me hitting the wall.

[Moderator]

Something's moving.

[Mike]

Definitely you.

[Jimmy]

Probably me, man.

[Tyler]

No, I think you're good. I think it's just.

[Jimmy]

We're still trying to work this.

[Mike]

No, we're good.

[Tyler]

All right. Anyways, so Jimmy gets in the comments, and he'll, like, Someone will go on this long rant. Like, let's say, like, for instance, it's gonna take force that we don't want to stabilize Chicago. Right. We just dropped that clip. I think that was today.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it was.

[Tyler]

And people are in the comments going, this, you guys, argument is the reason why we wouldn't do it. And we're like, yes, point. And Jimmy goes in there and goes, yes, brother. That's what I'm saying. That's what. If you listen to it, that's what we're saying.

[Jimmy]

Jesus Christ. It's like there's so many people in there that, like, they already have their mind made up about what the. You said that the cognitive disconnect is just too real for them to go. Like, we're going like, dude, if we sent people into Chicago, a lot of people would die. It would be terrible. And they're like, yes, that's why we shouldn't do it. We're like, we're in violent agreement. That's exactly what we're saying.

[Mike]

The problem with Instagram is if we're talking right now and we're going back and forth, at least you have to look at me and hear me and see what I'm saying. In Instagram, you write your response. The person writes. You don't read it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The arguer doesn't read your response. They just write their next thought that's in their head. And it just continues to go with both of you essentially talking to yourselves.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Unless you actually. And I know I'm guilty of it, when they start writing these, I'm like, I'm not reading that novel. Like, I'm responding with the next thought that popped in my head. So it's like they're just arguing with themselves, and they're never listening to the other side of the argument. That's Instagram in a nutshell.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I mean, and I'm sorry, guys, but I post and ghost. I don't really worry.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I have a. It's not. There's so many other ways to get a hold of me. It literally is an extra step to DM me on my personal page and get a hold of me or DM me on Patreon or I'm not gonna listen to anybody in the comments.

[Mike]

I don't go. I don't go in there either. My, My friend of mine does.

[Tyler]

I want to know when I, When I, When I, When I go look, I. Look anything that gets under 10k. I'm worried that I did something that the algorithm didn't like.

[Mike]

Yeah, you let Brentless.

[Tyler]

Or I sang Eddie Murphy. That one didn't go too well.

[Jimmy]

No, dude. My wife still thought that she cracked up. She's like, you're over there. Like, I don't know the song.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that it's important to release like that because it's fun and.

[Mike]

Well back. You know, we had MySpace back in my day.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I remember my.

[Mike]

Remember my space. Yeah. Well, first we had the Bible. I was around for the Bible. We wrote the Bible back in, Back in the day. I was around for that. We. We wrote the Old Testament. The Old Testament.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And once we finished the Old Testament, we made my speech. And then that was the flex, because you could. Like, you're not. You're not number one anymore.

[Tyler]

No, no, no.

[Mike]

You went down to number three and.

[Tyler]

You were like, I forget how devastating that was. Can you imagine someone just socially saying.

[Mike]

The two best lists in history of list was the. Was the MySpace friends list. And when Snapchat snitched on you and told you who your top three or five was? Wait, what Snapchat was? In the original Snapchat, if I clicked on your name, it showed me your top three most snapped people and it gave their name. You watch that you interacted with. So they would. You'd see the side piece, move her way up to number one on the list. And you'd be like, who is Daisy 69732? And you'd be like, and everybody knows who that is. Why are you snapping her? Why are you doing that? So Snapchat had a. Had a snitch feature.

[Tyler]

Well, Snapchat is nothing but a cheating apple. I've. I've said that since day one, but I think I was old enough to realize I was. That's when I was like, I don't know, man. I was in college when that came out.

[Jimmy]

I think I was in college when it came out too. But it is definitely, definitely.

[Tyler]

Why would you need an app that deleted photos as soon as they were sent?

[Mike]

I know why.

[Jimmy]

I'll tell you what the best thing about that right now is letting your five year old play with all the filters and be like, daddy, there's a cat on your head. Like, yeah, buddy, there's another cat.

[Tyler]

These aren't mine.

[Mike]

Daddy, there's Another cat. It's not Gus. Gus.

[Tyler]

Actually, it was just as hairy, though.

[Mike]

Yes, it is. And I like. I like hearing guys try to justify. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, my buddy, my friend.

[Tyler]

Like, bro, I had a dude at work, right? I would never say his name, but he cheated on his wife.

[Mike]

No way. All right.

[Tyler]

Cop cheating.

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

And I. I. One day, I just said, bro. I mean, like, I'm talking, like, house, family, kids, the whole night.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're gonna do it.

[Tyler]

Do it right on vacations. And he goes. I go, bro, I. Dude, just out of curiosity, like, how somebody could get away with killing 10 people, I want to know, because I. When I get to work, I re. Download.

[Mike]

There you go.

[Tyler]

Snapchat. I do it all at work. And when I go home, I do get rid of the Snapchat icon. Like, I. You throw it away, it doesn't delete the account when you go back to work.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Ah, man. The amount of work.

[Mike]

There's a way to figure that out too, though, because you. If you're. If you're on the same cloud, you can see the downloaded apps and all that. There's always a way around, but that's just too much work and that. And it's. I mean, like, I like hearing guys try to justify. I always love, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, my girl has it, too.

[Mike]

Oh, she cheats, too. Okay.

[Jimmy]

At some point, you've got to go. Like, I mean, I am. I. If I spent this much effort trying to be good at my job, I'd be the chief of police by now. But. But you're, like, over here trying to be Batman. Try to hide your side scrub, man. Dude, just get divorced and move.

[Mike]

Just gone.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, I mean, I'm sure she.

[Tyler]

Would have cleaned them out. They've been married for, like, 15 years.

[Jimmy]

Well, good for her. It sounds like he needs clean.

[Mike]

They usually stay.

[Tyler]

All right, let's. Let's hit these super chats, all right?

[Moderator]

From Chuck loner, we got $2. Jimmy is still Teemu. Ron Jeremy.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yourself.

[Tyler]

Okay, so Jimmy's got an astounding mullet, right? It's a mullet. It's not a mullet. It's long hair. Let's see it. But we're gonna make counterculture hats with the Jimmy hair on it, like Wayne's World.

[Mike]

That's a hell of a head of hair.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I'm working on my.

[Tyler]

Never cut that.

[Jimmy]

Working on my. Jesus.

[Tyler]

Now, is it. Do you have to put product in it, or is it just now?

[Jimmy]

I don't have to put product in it, but I do. So I use Johnny Slicks.

[Tyler]

Better Marine.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Veteran owned company. Right. Really? Because I was using other product and I actually started to get bald spots, and I got rid of it.

[Tyler]

We should reach out to Johnny Slick. We should see if you want to sponsor the show.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, for sure. So it's not really a mullet, because a mullet is, you know, short up here. Right. And then it's just long back here. Yeah, my hair is just long.

[Tyler]

Do you have long hair? I think it's because you wear a hat. The way you wear it looks like a mullet.

[Jimmy]

Right? Because if I leave it down here, then it.

[Mike]

The.

[Jimmy]

The hat crushes the hair against my ears. I can't. I already have.

[Mike]

I can't imagine having hair. I've been shaving. I've been shaving my head since I was 20.

[Tyler]

Because you went bald?

[Mike]

No. No.

[Tyler]

Would you ever. If. If it was free, would you ever do hair implants?

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

Here, I'll do this.

[Tyler]

Nope. Really?

[Mike]

It's simple, dude. I shaved my head.

[Tyler]

How often do you shave your head?

[Jimmy]

You.

[Mike]

I use a regular razor every three days. Two and a half. Three days. Is it.

[Tyler]

Does it take skill to shave your head?

[Mike]

Yeah, I cut the. Out of my side. Still happens. You can't.

[Jimmy]

Gotta take some skill.

[Mike]

No, you just. You kind of like with your finger. I shave my legs, too. I shaved my legs.

[Tyler]

All right, let's see if you guys. Do you guys like this version of Jimmy without the hat? Yeah, I like it with a hat. You look kind of different.

[Mike]

He looks like a rock star now, man.

[Tyler]

Now you do kind of look like you're like a. A rocker, country guy.

[Mike]

Like, see my hair?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So rock music, too.

[Jimmy]

I had to grow my hair out when I worked for Department of State.

[Tyler]

Mike looks like a thumb over here.

[Jimmy]

It's like a big toe.

[Mike]

I shave my legs because they're so big now. Like, I got to keep going.

[Tyler]

They rub together when I walk.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's the only thing that touches is my legs.

[Jimmy]

Dude. Yeah. Somebody said clip this and. And shout him out. We should definitely get Johnny.

[Tyler]

Johnny Slicks. What's up?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we definitely got to clip that. That's a great idea.

[Mike]

Your wife votes without the hat, I think.

[Jimmy]

No, she definitely want. Dude, my wife's the reason my hair is long. So I had to grow my hair out when I went to work for Department of state.

[Tyler]

Why? They have mandatory hair?

[Jimmy]

No, it was just that, like, I was used to doing, like, medium fade, no skin and everything.

[Mike]

He said, sounds funny.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. My wife.

[Mike]

You have a way of delivering things that are so serious and not a joke. Just the way you sneak in those words. Medium, no skin.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. But my wife laughs.

[Mike]

I like it medium, no skin, too. Like, I mean, it's just good, man.

[Jimmy]

So I. You. I just know. I had normal haircut, spike it with gel, you know, Like, I'm. I'm still listening to some 41, and. And, like, I'm a. I'm a punk, but now I'm a dad. And so when I went to work for Department of State, they were like, hey, could you not look like an army guy? That'd be great.

[Tyler]

Oh, so they were pro. You not looking like a infantry dude.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, they wanted me to look like dude I was with. I was with guys who had been on ODAs and. And, you know, dudes that were in the SEAL teams and other people. And so it was like, hey, man, like, can you grow a beard? No, I still haven't gone through puberty. For some reason, I can't grow a beard. But they're like, okay, we'll grow your hair out, bro. Like, okay, cool. And my wife was like, I really like the long hair, and that's why you have it. And I cut it a couple of times, and she hates it, so I'm sticking with the long hair.

[Mike]

And I made the mistake of cutting my beard once. I put the old goatee. She was like, hey, I wonder. You look like. As soon as I walked out, she's like, that was a terrible idea. She's like, you look like a Heather.

[Tyler]

Makes me, like, I don't know how to trim the bottom part of my beard. And so I'm like, I'll. As I shave, I shave all the stubble off, right? But as every time I do it, I encroach the line more and more and more until it gets to, like, my jaw. And she's like, your neck has no hair on it. So now I'm reading.

[Mike]

Your hair is weird. You're like, patchy.

[Tyler]

I am not patchy. No, I'm not.

[Mike]

You're so Apache. You're an Indian dude.

[Tyler]

No, he's fucking patchy.

[Mike]

Look. No.

[Tyler]

Yeah. All right.

[Mike]

Spotty. But I'm just saying that, like, I can see where it's. It's not, like, a lot.

[Tyler]

What it is. What it is, is the right side of my face curves, right? The left side, all the hair goes down. I'm dead. I'm serious. I'll show you. It curves. All of my right side of my Facial hair, curves. Right. When I shave.

[Mike]

Is that like a golf swing? You're sliced to the right.

[Tyler]

Shave again. Against the grain. Here I go up here. I have to go to the right.

[Jimmy]

Dude, it's.

[Mike]

I go up everywhere.

[Jimmy]

I. Yeah, my everything is a double entendre to you, man.

[Mike]

Right here.

[Tyler]

Are you curved to the right or left?

[Mike]

Left.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I think. I think I'll just keep the hat off from now on.

[Tyler]

That way.

[Jimmy]

That way. I can.

[Tyler]

Thought you were gonna check. Yeah, right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. No, not moving on. No, I'm. I'm not even engaging with you fools right now. All right.

[Tyler]

Is it.

[Mike]

We moved around here.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we did.

[Mike]

We went from dead dogs to dick curves.

[Moderator]

All right, we got another one from Ian Paul, 11B199. My girl likes to party all the time. Party nice, and then do duder with $5. Would you rather fight Mike Tyson three rounds or have to speak like him for the rest of your life?

[Mike]

Fight him.

[Tyler]

We've. If you survive it, then you don't.

[Mike]

Have to worry about either one. You have to worry about talking anymore.

[Tyler]

If he knocks you out in the first round, you got to wake back up and get knocked out again.

[Jimmy]

I guess I'll just go get. Keep getting knocked out. I'll get that. Know what?

[Tyler]

When I first started this, all right, Know, it's a funny story, right? So I had a pretty solid base when I started anti hero, like, back in, like, 2023 or something like that. I can't remember. And. And obviously it exploded when Brent came on. But when Brent came on, Brent brought a lot of. We call them the bbs, the Brent Bros. And they hated me at first.

[Mike]

They still do.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they still do. Well, now they get to freely hate me again. But they hated me. And, dude, all they would. They would talk. All they would. I learned I had a lisp from the comments section in the podcast. You're like, who's this loser with the list? It's like. And I remember I told Brent about it, and he was like, do they mean me? And I'm like, no, he means me. And he's like, well. And he started talking. He goes, he might mean me. I'm like, no, it's me, bro. I have a list. I just didn't know until a. Someone called it out.

[Jimmy]

Christ.

[Tyler]

Let's do another video.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, let's do another video, bro.

[Mike]

All right, you gotta choose mine. Do the one I just sent just now. Yep. The most recent one. All right.

[Jimmy]

Go down from Europe.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no. What's. What okay. Yeah, that's fine. Go. I don't want to lose where I'm at that one.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Tyler]

This is your old agency, Mike.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Jimmy]

I like the first thing I saw was Kobe going soft. Soft.

[Tyler]

Slap the cop in the face.

[Mike]

Tries to kiss him. Look. Bite him. Look.

[Tyler]

Dude, that guy just made a joke about.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my.

[Mike]

Dude, I added the music. I added the music too. All right, well, so this has been a hot topic all over the combatives websites or the combative Instagrams and all the training Instagrams. And then let me give you the background there. Do I think they should have beat the brakes off that guy? Absolutely. Well, everybody else, you guys both do, but I don't. The problem started long before the smack, which was improper distance, lack of the backup being close enough to interject. He was a mental health. It was a mental health call. It's a baker. Like, the kid was going crazy. So you should never be that close to somebody. So my. Here I was. I made the meme. I was gonna let it go. And because my agency's led by a cuck, they released a statement when it went viral.

[Tyler]

That's how I know you're not over. Is you still call it my agency. Just saying.

[Mike]

Well, it's my agency.

[Tyler]

No, it's not.

[Mike]

Yeah, I work there.

[Tyler]

You your old agency?

[Mike]

Well, my agency. So that agency released a statement attempting to justify. Based on the outcome. The outcome was okay, nobody got hurt, nobody got hit with a flashlight. Nobody got taped. So the outcome was okay, but the process that led to the outcome was completely garbage.

[Tyler]

That does change thing that. It's a mental health call.

[Mike]

And I. And I'll. I have. I'm gonna read you the statement. The part of the statement that pissed me off the most was.

[Tyler]

We only give you partial information, folks.

[Mike]

No.

[Moderator]

Well, we also just got a comment saying that's not what happened. He swiped and missed him. The body cam shows something completely different.

[Mike]

Okay, go ahead, read it.

[Moderator]

Dude was in the throes of a psych episode, and the cop that treated the issue was solid.

[Mike]

Okay, okay. Did we talk about his demotion from the other agency he worked at? How solid is he?

[Jimmy]

Okay, let's. Let's.

[Tyler]

So let's go.

[Mike]

Let's go. Because if we're gonna. If we're gonna air out, let him cook. And we're gonna call people out for being solid. That's obviously somebody that knows, like, let's talk all of it, because my dirty laundry.

[Tyler]

I don't know anything about this.

[Mike]

Anyway. Anyway. Who wrote that?

[Moderator]

It was Neil Slocombe.

[Mike]

Okay. Okay. Because that is what happened. If you're within. No, no. Go to EF Combatives or go to any of those combative sites, BJJ Cops. And you go look at what they said about that call and you tell me you probably support Eric Flowers, and that's why you're saying that it never should have got there. And he could. You can call him a solid dude. I don't care. At the very end, if you watch the entire body camera, he actually says to the mother, I don't have a problem getting smacked. I just didn't want to get spit on. I don't want to work with that guy that has the mindset that I'm okay to get smacked. So anyway, back to what I was saying.

[Tyler]

Do you know this guy?

[Mike]

No, I do not. Never met.

[Tyler]

You know of him?

[Mike]

Never. Don't even know his name.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

Never heard of him. The part of the statement in the full Facebook was recognizing the subject's behavior was a result of mental health. So listen to the words. Deputies both trained in crisis intervention used appropriate techniques to safely take him into custody without injury. That's how they describe what you just watched.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I know.

[Mike]

That is absolutely garbage. And what that did was for the guys that work there now are concerned that if their reaction was to punch him in the mouth, which is absolutely justified in that situation, that they're going to be treated.

[Tyler]

I disagree.

[Mike]

Mike, you don't think you can punch that guy for trying to punch you?

[Tyler]

Smack you? I think that if it.

[Mike]

I don't like that.

[Tyler]

You were there for a mental health call and that guy went like that. First off, you're absolutely right. The sense that you have no distance between you and the person that you're there to care for or arrest or whatever it is. And B, you know that it's a mental health crisis.

[Mike]

Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You get a pass to smack the cops because you have a mental health crisis.

[Tyler]

No.

[Mike]

Can you pull a gun out? Can you pull a knife out? Are you going to treat them differently? You talking about the mental health crisis? I feel bad for the mental health part of it. I don't. It's unfortunate. You are allowed to have a mental health crisis and we will treat you differently than a criminal. You didn't rob a bank. You didn't. You didn't commit a burglary. You get a different treatment, and that's cit and that's communication. The benefit of the doubt, some other things.

[Tyler]

What if it was a little Old lady that was mentally ill and went to slap you and would you punch her? No.

[Mike]

Officer factors. Officer factors. In that case, that's where you have to use your skill set, which was zero. Your skill set versus the person you're facing. So if, if it was me and the cop was a little girl and I went to do that, she might be justified to shoot me right away based on my size and her size, me with a little girl on the other side of me, that takes a swipe of me. I'm not going to be justified to shoot her. So there's different.

[Tyler]

I said punch her in the mouth.

[Mike]

Okay? No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't think that if a night. No, no, but, but look at both sides. If there's a 90 pound cop and a 200 pound dude that takes a swipe at that cop, you could be immediately justified for deadly force. Immediately. Immediately. Yeah, you can. It's already been proven. It happens. Girls, the girl shot the dude in the, in the parking lot, all that stuff. Yes.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay. So you're not talking about. You're. Okay, let's take race out of it first.

[Mike]

I'm not talking. Right.

[Tyler]

No, no, I am. I'm talking about if we were to do that scenario, there is no race because we both know in that scenario, if that cop shot that guy, even if it was justified, it would be all over the.

[Mike]

It just happened. It just happened where the dude was unarmed, black dude was unarmed, the cop was backing up, told him multiple times to stop.

[Tyler]

That's not this scenario though.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's worse.

[Tyler]

Well, yeah, that's worse. This case, this scenario.

[Mike]

Okay, so in this scenario. Go ahead, go ahead. Let me.

[Tyler]

Okay, just. I want to clear it up. You're not saying in this scenario, obviously, because people are going to start wondering. You're not saying that shooting was justified in this scenario.

[Mike]

No, not yet.

[Tyler]

Punching.

[Mike]

Based on. If you take just that incident. I think your response to that, you're. You're there for mental health and I feel for. I understand the mental health crisis in this nation. You still don't get a pass to punch a cop or smack a cop or spit on a cop because you're in mental health crisis. If you're in your own house and you're having the mental health crisis and you're doing all that. We'll just leave. We're not going to stay and interact. You're now in public. You've created some type of public, some expectation from the police to stop the situation.

[Tyler]

Family has failed you and now you're out.

[Mike]

Okay? And now you have. Now we have to do something about it. When you smack or attempt to smack, I don't care if you hit him or not. You have. Now that's assault on a police office, a felony.

[Tyler]

In fact, if I remember correctly, you are a big advocate of us as cops not going out there and dealing with the mentally ill. Because we're the first ones that call.

[Mike]

Yes. And then if that kid was in his house and he was having a crisis in his house, you probably don't.

[Tyler]

Was it you suspect say break down something?

[Mike]

It was the SWAT call outs when you leave.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no. You had said something. I was like a statistic or something where you're like. You were talking about, oh, every.

[Mike]

Most people will have. They have a mental health crisis where they threaten to shoot themselves, whatever, within 45 minutes. They're. They're past it, okay? They're, they're, they're like, I'm gonna kill myself. I'm in my house alone. We just go, okay, you're good. We hide outside for 45 minutes, you stop calling and we leave and nobody gets killed.

[Tyler]

Did you know that, Jimmy?

[Jimmy]

I did not.

[Tyler]

So if you, if you threaten to kill yourself, there's no one inside with you. You're not holding your family hostage. They're not staying voluntary. It's just you, bottle of whiskey. I'm a fucking war vet and I'm.

[Jimmy]

Gonna fucking suck stuff.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna kill myself. Yep. We will show up. We will. We won't surround you, but we will. But we're not gonna surround you because we're not treating you like a criminal. Right. We are going to establish every means of communication with you. You, from phone calls to loudspeakers to going almost up to the door and screaming, jimmy, hey, what's up, man? At some point, depending on the watch commander, however long, at some point, we will break it down and leave.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Because at that point, us making entry, if you're gonna kill yourself, that's awful. But the only worst thing is the police killing you.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Tyler]

And you pointing that gun at us. Now we have to kill you.

[Mike]

That's been adapted nationally. Damage control, like a SWAT call out is no longer. You don't even call them anymore.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The only time you would do it is if you, like you said, hostage, he comes outside waving their gun around.

[Tyler]

These shootings would happen because we had.

[Mike]

One in our county.

[Tyler]

We. The suicidal guy was like, oh, you'll do it for me. Here you go.

[Jimmy]

And, yeah, well, I mean, I mean, we had a. We had a police shooting in. In St. Pete where a guy ran up to a FD truck, grabbed a fire axe off the side and ran it to cops.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's an easy one. That's.

[Jimmy]

He was like Matthew McConaughey and rate of Fire.

[Mike]

But going back to this one, my problem with this one is justifying it based on the outcome and making it look like since it ended up okay, what they did was okay. And I don't know these dudes. I'm not trying to on these dudes. What I am shitting on is the agency from everybody I've talked to now feels that the agency will not have their back if they handle that call differently.

[Tyler]

They're afraid.

[Mike]

They're afraid. You could disregard. You could disengage and tase him. You could tackle him. You could take him to the ground. You can get smacked and just take it. There's many options you can do in that situation. And he's obviously looked. He's bigger or as big as the guy. So now you have the same size subject. Mentally ill. And now he's gone from mentally ill yelling to swinging at the cops. So there is a. At some point, and I'm not saying all the bad, like beat him up. I'm talking like the rear officer just coming up from behind him and grabbing his arms. Dude. Or put him in an arm bar, a simple arm bar, and then cuffing him and going to the ground. Anything. But that's not the answer. What you saw, that was luck. That was. What if he got knocked out? What if that cop caught the smack, render him conscious, he falls down, hits his head on the curb, and he has a brain injury completely.

[Jimmy]

Oh, possible.

[Mike]

Not because the kid wanted to hurt him. The kid was having mental health. You get smacked wrong, you see the slap, you get knocked out.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna do. You did the close the trunk thing on me. I'm do it to you. You could have just backed up.

[Mike]

Yep, maybe. And I agree, maybe.

[Jimmy]

Maybe you should.

[Mike]

My point from the beginning is distance was wrong. So from the jump, the distance closed in. But for the sheriff's office to say, this is my biggest beef with it. The sheriff office says recognizing the subject behavior was the result of a mental health condition. The deputies trained in crisis intervention used appropriate techniques to safely take him into custody. Destiny, you show me an appropriate technique in anything that happened. They got. He got swung at. He got. He missed him. That's great. Then he did the bite kiss move where the guy backed up and Then they put him in some quasi grab hold. He let them go in cuffs. And then I found out he was even still going crazy at the er, acting like a maniac. So he never really calmed down. My point being is he should have gotten an ass. The, the sheriff's statement changes the game of that incident. And when you try to justify and you give your officers the. The word that that statement, that these guys did it correctly, the guy going, damn, I probably wouldn't have got that close to that guy. And if he swung at me, I would have created distance and did a takedown that I was trained in Jiu jitsu. Am I wrong for doing that? Like that's what those guys are thinking.

[Tyler]

Here's the thing is like Mike's not saying it. We did say it, but he's not. This isn't an attack on those cops at all. This is a leadership just not stating anything. They should have said nothing.

[Mike]

Yeah, and irony. The irony is the day that went viral, the agency canceled. Agency paid Jiu Jitsu training that would teach you distance and takedowns and all the right things you should do.

[Tyler]

So what'd you point at the screen.

[Jimmy]

For, Jimmy super chats.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, damn. Jimmy's running the show now.

[Jimmy]

Hey, I'm just trying.

[Tyler]

Hey, look on schedule.

[Moderator]

All right, we got.

[Mike]

See the five second rule.

[Moderator]

Holy fook. Five dollars. Mike, please explain your five second rule. It's a little different for most people.

[Mike]

This is why you joined Patreon? Because this conversation happened in Patreon.

[Tyler]

Wait, what happened?

[Mike]

They were talking about the five second rule, like stuff hitting the ground. And I said, if your balls touch your buddy's balls, you got. It's a five second rule. He said, is it gay? And I said, only if it's over five seconds, kids. I don't remember the context of the conversation now. Yeah, it was in Patreon that. I don't remember why they were talking about it. I don't remember that. You have to. You got to join Patreon to see what the conversation topic was. It was some joke going back and forth. And somebody said, the general chats. No, it was in one. I don't remember. It was in one of the sub chats and it said somebody said that if you get too close, your balls are going to touch. And I said, well, as long as it's not five seconds, you're not gay. Okay, so that's.

[Tyler]

What's your opinion on the. Is it. So this is assuming in a sexual scenario with you and another man, right? What?

[Moderator]

Well, like a threesome.

[Mike]

That's not what the concert. You said.

[Tyler]

I don't remember the content.

[Mike]

It wasn't that, okay? It was something else. What other somebody made it with your ball? Somebody, I don't know, Join it. Somebody said something about you get too close to your buddy and your balls touch. And I was like, what would you.

[Tyler]

Be doing other than that?

[Jimmy]

I, I, I mean, like, stretching at.

[Mike]

The gym, sitting in the sun.

[Jimmy]

So first of all, like, the only time you ever get, I mean, in the military, right? You remember when we go through the.

[Tyler]

Chat, I never got close to nobody's balls but that.

[Jimmy]

Listen, look, when you go through the child line, they put you nut to butt, right? Yeah. Like you, everybody's. Yeah. And you're like, go to the child line. Okay, cool. When you go to basic training, that's not, I mean, like, you'd have to be like, eyeball to eyeball with each other. We'd have to be, like, turned around.

[Tyler]

And there'd be no ACU's involved. There'd be no uniform.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Like, so what, what is this? I mean, like, when we went through the. I don't know how it was in 2000, whenever, when you went through, but in 2001, they ran us through like it was a circus. Going through the shower.

[Mike]

Five is a long time. I wish I could find it.

[Jimmy]

Five is a long time.

[Mike]

Screenshot it and DM it to me. Like, I can't remember what the context of conversation. Everybody went wild.

[Tyler]

They're like, there's a bunch of fun.

[Mike]

He was in. He's in, he's in the Super Chat or he's in Patreon. So he's like, mike, that definition of five seconds is a little different than everybody else's. It was pretty good.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Tyler]

All right, so, Jimmy, they asked your opinion on the five second rule.

[Jimmy]

Five second rule. Dude, if you are touching another man's balls with any part of your body, including your balls, it's gay, period.

[Mike]

Even the Eiffel Tower.

[Jimmy]

I, I don't give a.

[Tyler]

What if they said, bro. Jimmy, I'm sorry, man.

[Jimmy]

Like, I'm, I mean, what, at what point if. How I have to save your life? I mean, like, what? This is like some guard tower.

[Tyler]

Like, you know, like you're reaching over to put water on the rocks, but you have a huge sack. It rubs against the guys.

[Jimmy]

Like a purse. I mean, like, get the out of here, bro.

[Mike]

Oh, my God, dude. Oh.

[Tyler]

All right, next super chat.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was in the call to the show area that's what it was the new sub call to the show. So if you call in the show, you can get your balls touched.

[Tyler]

I just want to talk about the five second rule where your balls touch.

[Mike]

I was in a tree in North Carolina. He called me back, dude, I was in the gym, like, Thursday. He hasn't called since, so.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, poor guy.

[Mike]

I'm sorry. All right.

[Moderator]

James De La Cruz. Jimmy looks like a young Ron Jeremy.

[Tyler]

He does better than Timu. Ron Jeremy?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. It's just better. Moving up, I guess.

[Tyler]

You know Ron Jeremy's in prison, right?

[Jimmy]

No, he did not. I mean, last time I saw Run.

[Mike]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah, for raping girl.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Jimmy]

I mean.

[Tyler]

Oh, he went to prison at least. I don't know if.

[Mike]

This doesn't even make sense. Why he figured he'd done having sex.

[Tyler]

Oh, well, he.

[Mike]

Yeah, they're all scumbag, though.

[Jimmy]

They are.

[Mike]

All right.

[Moderator]

Holy. With another $5. Just got on the live. Maybe it's been discussed, your thoughts on the digital ID for England and the uprising against it and against immigrants.

[Jimmy]

You guys know about this?

[Tyler]

I haven't seen this. Thank God we have Jimmy here. I'm like, sitting here. Like, I always felt terrible, like, when me. Like, when we'd have a full panel full of people and we'd be like, we have no idea what the.

[Mike]

You were mad at me. I was off of Brennan and Jimmy's the brains and has all the.

[Tyler]

Jimmy came here and started working.

[Mike]

He was yelling at us. He's like, I'm trying to work in here. I'm.

[Jimmy]

I'm literally going through, like, he got.

[Mike]

Here, like, one o'. Clock. Dude.

[Tyler]

I'm at Longhorn, just hanging out.

[Mike]

I'm not betting that. I'm not catching that traffic. I'll get here nine hours early. Oh, all right, Jimmy. Hey, my balls might touch you for five seconds if I have to do cpr, so don't go down.

[Jimmy]

Oh, man.

[Tyler]

Digital id.

[Jimmy]

So the digital ID basically is. Is. It sounds like a great idea. Like, hey, we're gonna know exactly who you are, and anything that you do online, we're gonna know exactly.

[Mike]

We're gonna know what you like a wife.

[Jimmy]

No, it's. It's. It's worse than that. It's like the mark of the beast. Okay. It starts out with, hey, we just want to know who it is. Who it is that's actually online. Basically, it takes away your anonymity. So all of you fuckers in the comments, if you had this digital id, yeah. You couldn't be anonymous. We know exactly Who?

[Tyler]

You know, this is like the most we can do is like IP address. Right?

[Jimmy]

Right. We could.

[Tyler]

They can actually.

[Jimmy]

You would never. Anything you looked at, anything you interacted with, anything you reposted, they would know you, Tyler, you, Mike, me, Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Even from a burner account, you couldn't.

[Jimmy]

Have one because you wouldn't be able to have that account if you didn't digitally id. It's like being verified, but everybody's got to do it.

[Tyler]

But all social media platform, it.

[Jimmy]

It's worse than that. It's getting to the point where you wouldn't even be able to like go and buy a fucking sandwich unless you had shown your digital. You had your digital id, could get a job. Unless you had your digital id.

[Mike]

It's kind of what they did with us. What they tested us with COVID cards, right. And they're over there full blown digital now.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. And so the people in England are like. I mean, remember, the poor bastards in England can't fly their flag without getting arrested by their cops.

[Tyler]

Wait, they can't fly the English flag?

[Jimmy]

They cannot.

[Tyler]

Why?

[Jimmy]

Because it might offend somebody.

[Tyler]

Are you. You're joking.

[Jimmy]

I am not. Pull it. What's his name? What's his name? Jamie. Jamie, pull up that video.

[Tyler]

He's been called Timu. Jamie.

[Moderator]

What am I pulling up?

[Jimmy]

Go, go. Look for the. Just go.

[Mike]

Five second rule with the ball.

[Jimmy]

No, don't listen to Mike. You listen to me, right?

[Tyler]

How many. How. How many seconds is game?

[Jimmy]

All right, go look up person arrested in UK for flying British flag.

[Mike]

It's bad over there. And the immigration things even.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And that's why they're taking over.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, dude. I mean, fucking Babylon has fallen.

[Mike]

Just because they gave up their second amendment.

[Moderator]

Are you want me to pull up a video?

[Jimmy]

You can just, you know, fucking.

[Tyler]

Read it.

[Jimmy]

Pull up a video. Find something, man. Be. Jamie.

[Moderator]

In the uk, a person was arrested for flying a British flag, but it was due to other associated offenses rather than the act of flying the flag itself.

[Mike]

Jimmy lied.

[Moderator]

Flying the national flag is not a crime in the uk, but local authorities can take action if the display possesses a safety risk, is placed on public property without permission, or is a part of illegal activity.

[Tyler]

Yeah, so it wasn't the flag, man. No, it was.

[Jimmy]

It absolutely was. That's. That's horseshit and everybody knows it.

[Tyler]

Kind of like how you're. You're. You're. Let's say your. Your favorite version of the joker, Heath Ledger.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

When he.

[Mike]

That one. He doesn't. He doesn't get the joke. Stop. He doesn't get the joke.

[Tyler]

Anyway, I'll fill you in.

[Jimmy]

Okay? Okay.

[Mike]

We'll let you know if you're cool enough.

[Tyler]

But everything he did wasn't illegal. But the feds came in and took him to prison. They raided his house and they. He went to prison for weapons charges. He had a sawed off shotgun in his own personal home. Yes, but they wanted him for other reasons. Just like Al Capone. They could not get him anything. So they got him for tax evasion.

[Mike]

Philly. His jail cells in Philly. Yeah, it's cool. The first ever prison in Philly.

[Tyler]

Does it shut down?

[Mike]

No. Well, yeah, it's. You tore it.

[Tyler]

They do ghost hunting there.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's cool. As though. They have his cell like all the way. It was when he was there.

[Jimmy]

I mean and. And this thing gets actually even worse. I mean and. And people are in the chats talk about too. But like your bank account is attached. Your Social Security number is attached. Your job but is attached to your digital.

[Mike]

And Biden moved in on that. Biden created where your venmo and your PayPal and you had the 1099, all that stuff before it was wide open. Just like the only fans girls.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, the only fans girls weren't paying taxes for years.

[Mike]

Biden. Biden. Tax the cat.

[Tyler]

Oh, fuck them, dude. They need to pay tag if I got to pay taxes. 82.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah. So I mean like.

[Tyler]

Well, I bet you know who probably doesn't have to have the digital whatever. Digital id.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Immigrants.

[Jimmy]

No, no, I'm sure they get plenty of excuses. The reality is, is that the place where the Magna Carta was written and look at Reagan is now under attack.

[Mike]

He put the joker face and put Gypsy Crusader. I don't know what that means. Reagan.

[Tyler]

Yeah. What's that mean?

[Mike]

I don't know what that means.

[Moderator]

Gypsy Crusader was a guy. Oh, I thought you didn't know.

[Mike]

I do know. We're not talking about. We're getting cancelled.

[Jimmy]

Don't, don't, don't go that far.

[Mike]

We're gonna get cancelled.

[Jimmy]

Already in enough trouble.

[Tyler]

Clip right there.

[Moderator]

I thought you guys were being serious.

[Jimmy]

Hey, hey, hey. Have you ever seen Moneyball?

[Tyler]

I kind of want to know what you're gonna see.

[Jimmy]

Moneyball?

[Moderator]

I was just gonna say he was a guy.

[Jimmy]

We'll point at you when we want you to speak.

[Mike]

Jimmy, dude, Jimmy's taking over, man. Holy.

[Jimmy]

Well, my wife told me that. She's like, you know, you got. You let Mike talk over you a lot and Mike. Mike is rage bait.

[Tyler]

Oh, the wife's getting in the middle of you guys now.

[Jimmy]

I was like, really? She's like, yeah, you don't do that at this house. Why, why do you let Mike. I'm like, well, I like Mike. I respect him. She's like, it's supposed to be entertaining.

[Tyler]

Lily's mad that you don't let her talk over you. But you at Mike, I think it's.

[Jimmy]

I think she's more of on the side of its entertainment.

[Mike]

5 second rule on this.

[Jimmy]

5 second rule indeed, my friend.

[Tyler]

All right, listen, next super chat. Lily just got outed, by the way.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I dropped a dime.

[Moderator]

Chuck Loner, what are your thoughts on the government shutdown? Mike and Tyler, not Timu.

[Jimmy]

R.J. oh, who's Rjeremi? Go yourself.

[Mike]

It's just. Yeah. You didn't even know it, right? No, yeah, it's. It happens all the time. They're, they're.

[Tyler]

I know it happened.

[Mike]

They're like two days into the shutdown.

[Tyler]

Because I remember one time there was a shutdown in, in the military. They're like, we're gonna pay you.

[Mike]

But yeah, I actually had a VA appointment today and the guy was like, they're considered essential still the VA clinic. So they're getting paid. I think it's two days in. It happens all the time. You know, the Democrats are jumping on it right now and I, I do think, my thought on it is they should stop paying the salary of Congress incentive as well. Like, you guys caused the shutdown. You didn't vote for the government to be funded.

[Jimmy]

First of all, if the government shut down, why am I still paying taxes? You're not working.

[Mike]

Yeah. So why do I have to. I look at it like they should not get paid. The people that have voted to or not voted to continue funding the government should not be able to leave and they should not be getting paid while they have voted or not voted to shut the government down. Now all the we're who really gets screwed on this is like government contract workers that aren't guaranteed money or considered essential. All the agents are getting paid. All the, the federal, federal inmates or federal corrects, all those people that are in essential place, they're all getting paid. But your secretaries, your contract workers, your. All those people aren't getting paid. They get furloughed, sent home, and a lot of times the non contracted people don't get back pay. So they might go two weeks home and then they're like, sorry, you're back to work Monday, but you don't get paid for those two weeks. So that's the failure there. Is that the fact that all because.

[Tyler]

A bunch of people can't go, they.

[Mike]

Can'T agree to like each other and some of them think we should be able to wear, change our sex and wear dresses and some don't and that.

[Jimmy]

The government should pay for it.

[Mike]

Yes. So I am, I think it's ridiculous that grown ups can't get in a room and do what's best for the United States of America collectively. That's my.

[Jimmy]

Well, well, first of all, Mike, that your whole idea is predicated on the fact that these people have the best interest of the United States.

[Mike]

They don't. Okay, let me preface that with if they really had the best, they really had the best interest, we would never, ever, ever, ever come close to a shutdown.

[Jimmy]

Absolutely.

[Mike]

Everybody had the best interest of the government or the people in their, in their, in their minds.

[Tyler]

Well, they wouldn't want them furloughed. They wouldn't want millions of people.

[Mike]

Yeah, you wouldn't want. Because the government just racks up more debt when you, I think the one, the one that Trump had was one of the longest, I think maybe the longest in his first term. And I think we added like 3 trillion, some ridiculous number to the national debt over that time while it was shut down. So it just everything up. But you know, they try and again, they're not, you know, they start to vote on these things and they try to sneak in like, oh, sex changes for inmates are back in and this for immigrants is back in. And they're both sides are trying to sneak different things into these bills to refund the government. And it's never about let's re, let's fund the government for the right reasons. It's like, what can we get out of this problem to get our, our agenda pushed? So let's give Ukraine more money. We'll, we'll refund the government. But we want 40 billion for Ukraine. Oh, we'll refund the government. We want this. So they're never really doing it for the people. They're doing it for their own special interest groups and their cells. And so that I don't talk over Jimmy. That's the reason ringing my doorbell.

[Jimmy]

I mean, hey, wow. Everything he just said, by the way.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Mike]

FBI. Holy.

[Jimmy]

Coming through the door.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

O' Neill's in there.

[Jimmy]

Yes, he is.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

The chat votes to kick people. Do they get to.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Tyler]

They want to take somebody?

[Mike]

Yeah. Two of them.

[Tyler]

Daddy's got. I. I don't. I'm not paying attention. Who is it?

[Mike]

Oh, I don't care. No, I don't care. Because one of the comments was about why do we hyper focus on trans and gay? And it's like that's what's shoved down our throat. I know, but I'm just saying, for.

[Tyler]

Anybody to even say that, if you're.

[Jimmy]

Gonna make it such a talking point, why the can't I say something?

[Mike]

You know what's funny? And I'm a Mets fan. The Mets were in first place, had the best record in baseball, and they flew the trans flag during a national anthem.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

From that day forward, they ended up one of the worst teams in baseball and didn't make the playoffs.

[Moderator]

That was tragic.

[Mike]

I watched that. Yeah.

[Moderator]

Watch that.

[Mike]

Yeah. Last year, grimace throughout the pitch and they went the other direction. And this year they flew the trans flag during the national anthem.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Mike]

And they went the other direction.

[Jimmy]

Dude, I'm sorry, but there's no transnation.

[Mike]

Okay, I agree. There shouldn't be a flag.

[Jimmy]

There shouldn't be a flag.

[Mike]

I don't know why you have it.

[Jimmy]

I, I don't.

[Tyler]

This baller buster guy does not like you, Jimmy.

[Mike]

That's your boy.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, well, unfortunately I.

[Tyler]

It's funny, you make a real about calling out Rob o' Neill for not on the rest of the.

[Mike]

This guy comes out of nowhere.

[Tyler]

This Guy comes out of nowhere, but, you know, there's theories and go outside.

[Mike]

And Rob o' Neill dropped Corey Smith, and Ball Buster dropped Corey Smith. The only way you would know that about my, about me is that's the Internal affairs investigation. So how did Rob o' Neill know about it? Rob o' Neill said, are you going to talk about Corey Smith? And then the next day, Baller Buster said, tell us about Corey Smith.

[Jimmy]

We don't need to talk about that.

[Tyler]

Why do the girls think it's a girl?

[Jimmy]

Oh, you know what? That's a great question. I, I mean, you know, maybe we'll have Lily on to explain that at some point. The girls think it's a girl?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

They don't think it's a dude. They think it's a chick.

[Mike]

We have a lot of fans. We have one fan that posts everything. Repost us for free.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

We don't have to pay them.

[Jimmy]

I, I, personally, I think we should ignore that guy because the more we talk about that gentleman, I don't talk about him. Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, I, the only reason I, I. Here's my take on, like, we do a lot of shows on Internet haters and, and all that stuff, but there's a time to address somebody when their entire background is just full of skeletons and they have one of the worst histories in history of police, and, and they have a terrible record, committed crimes. And at some point, like, if you're upfront about that and say, hey, by the way, this is who I am and I did all this up, but I have an opinion. I'm. I'm actually, I think I respect you a little bit more than trying to hide what you did or manipulate what you did and then attack everybody. So there's, it's. That's my take on it. When you commit crimes and you commit acts against women.

[Jimmy]

So, like, JD delay.

[Mike]

Yeah. It's like how, you know, and then you clip things and, and, and do things.

[Tyler]

Oh, he calls people out.

[Jimmy]

No, I mean, J.D. delay has plenty of skeletons in his closet.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Jimmy]

He was in prison.

[Tyler]

Well, I know that.

[Jimmy]

I mean, but so he's. What I'm saying is that's a guy that prison for. I don't know. I, I don't care. All I know is the guy was in prison and he's trying to turn his life around, and he's really honest about, hey, I was in prison. I'm like, dude, more power to you. You didn't do everything. Right. There's plenty of people out there didn't do Everything.

[Mike]

And that's what I say, like accountability is. And I somebody, whenever somebody calls me about doing a podcast and somebody called me about, somebody called me day on the way here about addressing a situation in a previous situation. They acted like a. And I said, the first thing you need to do when you address this one that you want to be serious about is admit that you handled the last one terribly right out of the rip. Say I was a complete moron. I handled this wrong. I got emotional. I shouldn't have done that. But here is my new statement about xyz. So if you're going to come out and attack people and you're going to, you know, post people and you're going to do things that hurt people's personal lives, that's fine. But you, you can't hide your own life and hide everything you did and lie about what you did in order to facilitate an argument against somebody else. It's especially what you did is up, like really up. You know who I'm talking about. So.

[Tyler]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

He posts us, you know, every story, every clip. He's free entertainment.

[Tyler]

My biggest fan.

[Mike]

And what's funny is, it's funny is, is like, you know, people really hate him and he's so toxic that people that are associated with are scared to unfollow him. Yeah, they don't want the wrath that we. That we got. So they like, it's like a, it's like an abuse. It's like what he did. An abuser. It's like an abuser that people, the victims are scared of him. Just like his subordinates were scared of him and didn't know how to handle his advances in his, his toxic behavior. They don't know how people followers are now, like, oh, I don't know what to do. Like, I don't want to be friends with him. But if I. He'll do what he did to me. He's a monster. So it's like, you know, that's. Those are at those type of people, it's hard. But at some point you like even as being abused, at some point an abusive, a person being abused steps up.

[Tyler]

And goes, you just don't want, you don't want to let it go cheating too far where you go overboard and now you're in trouble for like, like the woman that like the women that kill their abuse.

[Mike]

And it's hard to justify. Like, what do you mean you just killed him on a nice sunny day in the middle of June. Like, you didn't do it when he was beating you like. Yes, because you get to a breaking point, they're like, he's gonna beat my ass again tonight. I'm done. I'm gonna shoot him.

[Tyler]

And anger comes out.

[Mike]

Correct? Yeah, correct. So you have to address it at some point. And like I said, I mean, I'll.

[Jimmy]

Tell you, man, this online space is.

[Tyler]

Weird, by the way.

[Jimmy]

It's weird.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're.

[Jimmy]

You're almost at the ASMR level.

[Mike]

Yeah, do it. Yeah, tell me about how weird. Online is.

[Tyler]

So weird.

[Jimmy]

It's so weird. But I mean, it really is, man. Like. Like being a. A person that's out there in the zeitgeist, it's like, what the.

[Tyler]

I think you're. If you run. What the hell did you do, Jimmy?

[Moderator]

Your camera got knocked out.

[Mike]

Hit the camera.

[Tyler]

Oh, I think it's the cord being yanked. Okay, right back, back, back.

[Mike]

Yeah, your foot. See, look at your left leg.

[Tyler]

Ah, there it is.

[Mike]

We'll get that five second rule.

[Tyler]

We'll get that cord wrapped up.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Okay. I didn't even know I'm over here in. In a spider web, so.

[Tyler]

All right, that's your spot. But to me, if you run a fake, if you run a page where you can't be identified, you talk. Oh, my God, you're such a faggot. You're just the definition of a. Sorry, bro, but you know, it's. I mean, I'm all about talking, but I got to be able to. I. You can't. You have to be able to talk back.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They have your whole life to talk about, and you're behind a fake meme page.

[Jimmy]

But, I mean. And at some point you just. You just go like, dude, like, you're not worth my time. You know, it's. It's like what I posted and. And that was the end that I was going to talk about. Go outside, nerd. Get out.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

There's a difference between the fake, fake, fake page that you have no idea who it is and not wasting your time versus a person who. You know who it is, who is. So, like. Like, has everybody so scared to say anything. It's like when you know who the person is, I think at some point you just have to say it like you did. It is what it is. And it's like, especially somebody. Yeah. And.

[Jimmy]

I'll tell you what, I'm gonna tell you this.

[Tyler]

Okay, Go ahead.

[Jimmy]

There. If. If a certain person actually engages with this platform, I won't say his name. I'm gonna know exactly who certain people are very Quickly. I'm just waiting for that.

[Mike]

Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

IP addresses are a real thing and as soon as I can get there, I, I, I Wait.

[Tyler]

Where are you gonna go?

[Jimmy]

I have a particular set of skills.

[Mike]

I figured I figured out who's ringing my doorbell too. Yeah, door dash. No, he comes. I gotta go through the back. That's through the slider.

[Jimmy]

God, I am kind of hungry, by the way.

[Tyler]

All right. So. All right, what your. What's yalls opinion on. Let's just get. Keep it general. We don't say anything any names. But what's your opinion on YouTube pages that only talk about the downfall of people.

[Jimmy]

Haters gonna hate that. And aider's gonna.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's, that's, I mean that's, that's.

[Tyler]

Just generally, that's the world today.

[Mike]

The upright, the up, the uprising of nothing. Everything is not interesting.

[Tyler]

So I came to like a realization last night. I was out in the back porch editing and I was a huge. So this in the podcast world, the Downfall YouTube videos where all they talk about is a T downfall of people. It's actually not new. It originated on YouTube with music. And if you go and you remember looking at like, oh, the downfall of my favorite band, you click on it and it's this, this upset person that just shits all over this band. And I've seen a million of them and it's the downfall of this, the downfall of that, and they're never going to recover, bro. They're playing festival headliners. I don't know what your definition of downfall is, but it's not downfall. I don't care if you like. And it's typically because they just don't like the band. So then I started seeing like the downfall of podcasts on YouTube, the downfall of the Brendan Schaub podcast, the downfall of Nate, then the downfall of anti Hero. And I'm like, well, yeah, it sells.

[Mike]

People want to watch that. People want to watch the downfall. And we are to a point in society, in the world where watching somebody suffer and go, you know what it reminds me of?

[Tyler]

People wanting to see Jesus crucified.

[Mike]

It's very similar. Very similar. It's very similar. It's because they're, they're. People are lazy. They don't want to do the work. They don't want to be good people. And it's better. They make themselves feel better by watching.

[Jimmy]

I'm, I'm going right along with you on that one. It, it is people who have fear to put themselves out there. They fear to try and so they want everybody who does it brother to go down because it just. All it does is value. Validate their up worldview that. See, if you try, you're gonna get taken down. That's why I don't try. I just tear those people down. Go yourself. You're a goddamn coward. You're a coward.

[Tyler]

I said it. These types of people. The people, not the viewers. Those. Yes. I think that if you watch one and you're just watching like, what the is this? That's not you. The people that make them. And the people that are like, yeah, yeah, that's those people. Because I've been guilty. I'm like, what the is this about the downfall of asking Alexandria what the hell.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And I watched the whole thing and I'm like, so they're. They're still headlining festivals. You're just pissed off because Danny Warshnapp or whatever the singers is. He's a. He's a Republican.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's why.

[Jimmy]

I mean, it was like. It was like when Tom Brady, like, put the. The MAGA hat in his. Oh, yeah, right.

[Mike]

Hammered.

[Jimmy]

And. And everybody wanted the Patriots to lose.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Like. And it was like, dude, get the.

[Tyler]

But here's the kicker. Here's the crazy thing is that now I saw today and. Or I saw it today. It came out on Tuesday. Some of you guys might have seen people are actually causing drama in their own podcast, like fake drama, to see if they can get picked up by one of these downfall. Because it's such good publicity, bro. I'm telling you, it is. It's the best publicity.

[Jimmy]

My dad, actually. So I, you know, my dad was in. In the upper echelons of things for a while, and I was telling him what was going on and who we. I was addressing, and he said, you know, I could make the argument that you guys are actually in cahoots, that. That it helps him and it helps.

[Tyler]

You, me and Brent. No, me.

[Jimmy]

Oh, o'. Neill.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Jimmy]

He's like.

[Tyler]

He's like, no, you know what it. And here's how you get rid of that theory.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Rob won't mention the anti Hero podcast.

[Jimmy]

No, he doesn't. He doesn't ever mention. Don't give him.

[Tyler]

He was on. What was that one that Reagan sent? What's that guy's name? The huge podcast.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, they know it's his brother and he got his number somehow.

[Tyler]

I don't remember well where Robin. He was on Tim Kennedy or not on him, but saying he shouldn't have done things or whatever. But what The Pat mc.

[Jimmy]

Pat Maxey.

[Tyler]

No, Reagan. Where the are you when I need you? It's Reagan's favorite podcast. Anyways, he was on there and he goes. And the guy was like, oh, yes. There was a podcast with like three guys that, that said Tim Kennedy. He goes, don't, don't say their name. Don't give him a platform. Like, so I know Rob, that's how you disprove that theory, is that Rob does not want to mention us. Because here's the thing. If you, if you give the platform, then Rob knows that they are gonna run right to the most viewed video on the entire podcast. Unfortunately, it is what it is. I don't take down yet. And it's number 37.

[Mike]

Vault. Vault attainment. Valuetainment.

[Jimmy]

Valuetainment 735. Yeah. So that's Patrick Bet David.

[Tyler]

Patrick Bet David. That's.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So Patrick David is actually. I mean, first of all, Patrick David would absolutely.

[Tyler]

How many times you can say his name?

[Jimmy]

He would absolutely want to come talk to us too.

[Tyler]

We have his brother in law's number, bro.

[Jimmy]

I mean, so, so, like, he would be, he would be fine with that because he, he has everybody on, but, you know, he doesn't. First of all, you know what I can say about everybody in this room? None of us were tier one operators and none of us were on the bin Laden raid. None of us in this room have said about that. There was one guy who talked about the bin Laden raid and it wasn't us. That's all we did. So we're moving on. We're on a Cincinnati.

[Mike]

I think it's great.

[Jimmy]

I do think it's great.

[Mike]

I think, you know, and I look at this like, I just appreciate the relationships I've made and the connections I've been able to help people make people that they wouldn't.

[Jimmy]

Can we go positive for just a second?

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what I was going.

[Jimmy]

So, so sorry.

[Mike]

My.

[Jimmy]

No, it's my fault.

[Mike]

It's my positive.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, right. My wife wants me to bring my son here.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

And she goes, I want my son to understand what it's like with dudes. How old? He's 17.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, 16.

[Mike]

We're good. We can still corrupt them.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we can still corrupt. But she's like, he needs to understand how men operate. He doesn't get that in the school. He doesn't get that in the church. He doesn't get that playing his video.

[Mike]

He's gonna hear some.

[Jimmy]

Right? And that's what I told him. I was like, He's. He's gonna be. But I remember when I was a kid and I was around Green Berets, and I was like, oh, yeah, I did learn. I probably should do that.

[Mike]

Yeah. And my dad just took me to bars and to buy weed. That's all I remember.

[Jimmy]

But.

[Mike]

But it was cool.

[Jimmy]

I'm sure was. Yeah.

[Mike]

We had a great time.

[Jimmy]

But I mean, to your point, Mike, like, I'm grateful for all of this.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I'm grateful for every single interaction that I have.

[Mike]

And I. I. Like I said, I look at it like people are gonna hate me. People hate Tyler. People. People like Jimmy. They like Jimmy. They hate me. And you.

[Tyler]

Me.

[Mike]

Yeah, they hate you.

[Jimmy]

I think they hate.

[Mike]

But what you have created, regardless of who sits next to you, is pretty. Is pretty special. And it's connected a lot of good people. It's connected people to fundraisers and. And cancer guys getting help and cancer guys. Cancer guys. Cancer guys can help. I don't have to say that. I'm a street cop.

[Tyler]

Jack, we love you.

[Mike]

But, you know, you get yourself connected to Eddie Gallagher, to connections. So it's like. But I mean, if you're gonna call me the. In the red hat or whatever else you call it when I wear the.

[Tyler]

Red hat, you can hate whoever you want on this podcast. You can hate whoever Jimmy, though, but you can.

[Mike]

No, it's this.

[Tyler]

It's this giant white skeleton in the green hat that is what does all this stuff. So hate me.

[Mike]

All right, there's some more super chats.

[Tyler]

All right, let's do something.

[Moderator]

All right, we got Robo Telk getting out of the Guard right now. Just started an EMT course today. Thanks for spreading the word of the anti hero ethic.

[Mike]

Excellent. That's a forgotten first responders there, man.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we need more EMTs and firefighters in here. Yeah, other than rigging those guys, I'm.

[Jimmy]

Trying to get my buddy Jim, who was a Philadelphia fireman.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Hey, did you live in Philly?

[Jimmy]

No, he's. He's getting ready to move back to Philly's in Tampa right now.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Jimmy]

So, Jim, if you're listening, I'm shouting you out, bro. Get your ass over here or come to Philly.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he got.

[Jimmy]

He got up in a bad fire. He had like, half a house collapse on him.

[Moderator]

All right, we got Neil. Slow come, Mike. I'm in agreement. Should have never let the guy that close to my point saying he was solid is that he was composed in that moment. We agree, brother.

[Mike]

I guess lack of. Lack of training is Composed. And I guess I agree.

[Tyler]

Well, he's saying he composes it, like, be. I think what he's saying is that that cop did he up and got too close. And he didn't take it out on the guy who. He stayed composed because it wasn't. It was his fault.

[Mike]

If we. If you've never been in a fight ever, you don't watch fight and I walk up and punch you, you're probably gonna do what? Nothing. Think about it. You've never been punched before. If you've been in probably, like, freak out, like run the other way. Yeah, but if you've been training in Jiu Jitsu or you've been training in Muay Thai, you've been fighting.

[Tyler]

I would.

[Mike]

Preparing for the job. Somebody punched you, you would know immediately what the reaction would be or what to do in order to counter that, you would touch balls together for five seconds. So my point being is again, that his lack of doing something is. Appears to be composed. Not knowing what to do is. Not composed. Not knowing what to do is. You got lucky. That is my point.

[Tyler]

Stop being a meanie.

[Mike]

That is my point. I mean, I gotta live.

[Tyler]

I know what you're talking about.

[Mike]

I gotta live in this town. I'm probably. Like I said, I'm probably. I'm gonna get a ticket every time I leave the house.

[Tyler]

His name's Slow to come.

[Moderator]

Neil. Slow come. But it's S, L O come.

[Tyler]

Slow come. Is it come like C O, M E or C?

[Moderator]

Yeah, it's C O, C U M E. Oh, maybe.

[Tyler]

Oh, C U M E or no.

[Moderator]

To C U m. Sorry.

[Tyler]

C U M. Oh, so it's Come come. Unless that's his last name. Slow Come. Can you imagine having that name in the military?

[Mike]

No, that's bad. Jimmy's busy. He's on Snapchat.

[Jimmy]

It's. It's. It's just Lily, okay?

[Mike]

She's got to give me two hours.

[Jimmy]

She's like, I. I wish I had come. I wish I'd come over there. Don't say it. I knew where you were going.

[Mike]

Super chat. Super chat. There's a mosquito in here, dude. All right.

[Tyler]

It is hot as the ac.

[Mike]

It is hot, dude.

[Moderator]

We got Aldo. If you even look at another man, you're gay.

[Mike]

Agreed.

[Tyler]

Agreed.

[Mike]

Stop looking at me, Jimmy.

[Moderator]

Ian Paul, 11B.

[Jimmy]

Go assault me with your male gaze.

[Tyler]

Your male gay.

[Mike]

It's under four seconds. You're good.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Moderator]

Oh, and Neil just said yes. That is his last name. Their last name.

[Tyler]

Slocum. Oh, so it's probably said Slocum. Like slocum not slow come. We're all like, slow come.

[Mike]

The slower you say it, the worse it gets. Too slow.

[Tyler]

Jimmy, stop smoking.

[Jimmy]

It's. It's the burn pit. It's the bird.

[Mike]

No, it's a burn pit. You're in your mouth every 15 minutes, dude.

[Jimmy]

All right, dude, you can't say that. The VA's watching. Shut your mouth.

[Mike]

That's your fault. Put the ashtray way over there.

[Moderator]

We got Ian Paul, 11B. Anything on the Dearborn Heights, Michigan cop with like 300 DUI arrest or something like that? Something wrong going on there?

[Mike]

I promise Monday we're gonna have a story on that. Because that's like the sec. They talked about it Monday, too, and somebody brought up my live last.

[Jimmy]

Do you want me to pull it up?

[Mike]

If you want. I didn't. I haven't seen this.

[Tyler]

And wait, he got 300 DUI?

[Mike]

Like I said, I'm the most. Least. I'm the least Cop. Cop at this point. And I hate a dui, so I don't really pay attention.

[Tyler]

But wait, there had to be some more to the story. It can't just be breaking.

[Mike]

Something happened. Yeah, because somebody brought it up in my.

[Tyler]

He probably got a dui.

[Mike]

That's probably it.

[Moderator]

Dearborn, while he's pulling it up, pull it out. Although with another one. Mistakes will be made when young, we accept we made them and try to be tolerant of others making the same ones after we improve. We try.

[Mike]

Beautiful.

[Moderator]

And then the last one from Blitz Chimera. It's a kill or be killed world. Now Diet Kyle. The Fortnite kids talking. Much love, y'.

[Tyler]

All.

[Mike]

Thank you very much.

[Tyler]

Who's Diet? Oh, Tyler's a Diet Kyle. That was a meme. Yeah, Tyler's are always Diet Kyle's.

[Mike]

Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, you're some. One of my favorite. Is that you? You look like Florida.

[Tyler]

You. You can't say that. You were the one that made that.

[Mike]

No, I did not. No, that wasn't.

[Jimmy]

I mean, if. If there was a Florida man in this room.

[Mike]

No, I thought. I thought it was you. The kid Nate, the. That follows us real religiously. Nate Sternum. He always laughs about that. Every time I get in, he's like, remember what somebody said? Tile looks like reputation of Florida. Yeah, that was when your nipples were out. They're covered now.

[Tyler]

All right. Anything on it?

[Jimmy]

I. I can't find. I mean, like, I'll do it. Yeah, maybe. You know, because we'll do it Monday.

[Mike]

Like some super we'll cover it Monday.

[Jimmy]

Place to go.

[Mike]

Yeah. Dunkin Donuts.

[Moderator]

We just got another super chat from Neil. As a side Note, in my 20s, my nickname was a Fast.

[Mike]

Go fast, go Slow come. I get it now. I get it.

[Tyler]

Slow come. All right, let's go check out a video. Back to the Tyler I sent to myself. This one suck. A free Sunday. No, go up a little bit.

[Mike]

That's all last week.

[Jimmy]

I mean, apparently I should get angry more often. I think it's.

[Tyler]

Stop, stop, stop, stop.

[Mike]

You're gonna get a joker. Keep going.

[Tyler]

No, you don't send him to hand. Go down.

[Mike]

That's Tyler. He's in. He's not.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but. No, he's in. Tyler to anti hero. Like that one right there to the left. What's that? Oh, ICE is facing backlash for using the Pokemon theme song. Let's watch that one.

[Jimmy]

Gotta catch them all.

[Tyler]

They're not catching any backlash.

[Mike]

They don't give a.

[Jimmy]

It's still really low. Can we turn the volume up?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I don't know why. It's all right. They can hear.

[Mike]

If you're offended by the song they use. You're a. Well, I guess they all are anyway. So.

[Jimmy]

Like, do you get. Do you get certain points for, like, certain countries?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Mike]

That thing's great, dude. The only. Like, the fat chick. That's the only problem. The fact some of the agents are still not squared away, but the videos are great.

[Jimmy]

They got the muffin top going.

[Mike]

The videos are great. Keith Pearson shares a lot of them, too. The old St. Lucy sheriff that works for Homeland Security now. He's great.

[Jimmy]

I mean, sharing those. The. The. The trolling level is so high from. From the US Government. Like, they. They've really tapped in to the younger people running their social media.

[Tyler]

Well, that probably wasn't ICE that DOT did that.

[Mike]

No, they have social media people that are doing it, but they got the green light to make those videos, and they're. It's working. Their applications are like. They're taking in thousands.

[Tyler]

So you think ICE actually made that?

[Mike]

No, not that one. But they are making pretty epic videos. Immigration. And if you follow Keith Pearson and some of the videos he post that Border Patrol and Immigration opposing. They're flat out calling people out, making like it. Yeah, like they're doing it.

[Jimmy]

So if you could. If you could run or if you could run any organization, federal, state, local, what would you want to run?

[Tyler]

You would run the Indian.

[Mike]

I would run the Marshall. The Marshals.

[Jimmy]

You want to run the U.S. marshall?

[Mike]

The Marshalls. Yeah, the Marshall. One of my favorite jobs I ever held was the marshall's task force, which it. Because just up my speed.

[Tyler]

It is a cool.

[Jimmy]

So tell me a cool story. I want a cool story, man.

[Mike]

I don't. I'm not a cop story guy. I can just tell you. Well, here's a cool story. When I got demoted, right before I got called in to get demoted, I had my gun to a murderer's head with the task force for picking up murders and then got called in to get demoted. I'm not. I'm not a big cop story guy. I. I don't like to talk about them.

[Jimmy]

I know you're not, but it just.

[Mike]

My point of if the marshals adopt the case.

[Tyler]

He said he had a gun to a murderer.

[Mike]

Yeah. So what happens is the marshals won't get involved for like charges DV. And not that DV's not important, but they don't get involved in misdemeanors and small stuff. If the marshals adopt a case, what we would get is we would get a warrant. They say, hey, this guy's bad, dude.

[Jimmy]

He's.

[Mike]

Gun charges, aggravated assault, attempted murder. We would have to do a form with the marshal, submit it, it goes in, make sure the warrants active, get all the paperwork together, and then immediately. If we had a device, we could quickly have a judge sign of paperwork immediate to start pinging the device. And then there's technology that was able to triangulate and we were able to go, that phone is in the. With the plans of the house. We could go, that phone is in the back corner on a nightstand in that room in the corner. We know it. And if we had enough PC, probably cause I talking like cop. I'm sorry. We had enough probable cause to say, we know that guy is in possession that phone. We and Steve would love this. We basically have a carte blanche violation of the fourth amendment. We can just kick the door in and go in and get that guy. So that is what it's used for. So it's very dangerous. The tactics are old school dynamic entry. There's no.

[Tyler]

Like, they don't like, please come out.

[Mike]

Come here. No, they don't want SWAT around. So what we would do is that's how a case would get adopted. And that's where like having informants. You would call an informant and go call so and so. I'll listen. Call and talk to him. Yep, that's him. That's the device. That's the phone number. Hit it. And then we would Know it right where it is. And then we had, boom, go, where was. No, like, please come out. That stuff. It was. The door got pulled. This is just recent. That's 20, 23, 22. It was just dope. One of the.

[Tyler]

Cool.

[Mike]

I'll give you one police story. Yeah, one Marshall story. So my very first time with The Marshalls was 2007 or 8. And we pull up to the house, and you're back. Then you were supposed to see the guy in the house. So we were in the hood, one of those houses with, like, no windows, the hurricane shutters are up. We pull up to the house. Dude takes off on a bike. And I see a SUV take off after him. And then one of the dudes in the Marshalls goes. I see him in the back room. There's no windows. You can't see anything. He's like, I see him in the back room. Boom. The door goes open. Off they go. And I was just like a support guy in the back. Gwen dragged the dude out. He wasn't there. Thank God. Pull him out. And then I look to my left, and the dude that took off a bike, his bike is folded in half from being run over. The Marshall's got guns pointed at him. They're making him drag his own bike back to the scene. And he's like, walking down the street. He's like, dragging a folded up bike. And, you know, I'm brand new at that point. I'm like, holy. Like, this is the.

[Tyler]

This is not cop.

[Mike]

That's why.

[Tyler]

Well, that is cop.

[Mike]

That's what I want. That's what I knew. I'm like, this is like. I had no ideas who these guys were. I'm just a dope cop. Dude hands me, like, an MP5. He's like, here, hold this. And I'm like, what the is this thing? I didn't know what it was. He's like, just. If the guy runs, shoot him. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, take this machine gun.

[Tyler]

I will say that. So a lot of times they're. They're Marshall task force or they'll be called. For instance, where I was, they were called the felony squad. They only go after the baddest, like, hydrolacy.

[Mike]

We don't want.

[Tyler]

We don't want.

[Mike]

We don't want to deal with corporate court. There's no court.

[Tyler]

There's no drugs. Like, let's say, like, somebody killed you and they. It's fresh, right? And they're on the run, that they're gonna get all so we get real.

[Mike]

Well, if you notice any of the shootings, mass shootings, things that make national news, it's 90, 99 time. The marshals are the ones who find.

[Tyler]

Them because they find people in shacks in the woods.

[Mike]

Yes. Plus they're not concerned with the reason that the feds and everybody, they don't play together like the D. A. Is. Because the marshals don't care about charges.

[Tyler]

Outside, because they don't have to care.

[Mike]

So it's a warrant. Yeah.

[Tyler]

I don't give a. About your fourth.

[Mike]

So they're gonna make. They're gonna make an illegal entry, per se, into your house. And you could have 500 kilos of federalized bounty hunter. Yeah, the cocaine that's in the house is gonna be, okay. Suppressed.

[Tyler]

They got their guy.

[Mike]

They'll walk past the cocaine with the guy and go, there's all your dope. It's tainted. It's not usable in court. Sorry. And they'll walk out with the bad guy.

[Jimmy]

We found the guy we were looking for.

[Tyler]

That's the beautiful thing about warrants, is that you don't have to have like. Like, if I thought you had a kilo of coke in the car, right? I have to make sure my PC for that traffic stop is good. Because if I. If I know. If I know it's in there, like the phone call happened, I know it's in there. So I just pull you over. It's all thrown out because I had no probable calls to make a traffic stop. I mean, I could be wrong in some of the Secret Squirrel stuff.

[Mike]

We had to work around it. But in order to.

[Tyler]

At the end of the day, for.

[Mike]

The most part, you have to have problem calls.

[Tyler]

If you don't, it gets thrown out. So you could find the kilo coke.

[Mike]

We could find you with fucking bloodshot.

[Tyler]

Eyes and like, oh, slam dunk. Nope. But the beautiful thing about a warren is if I'm like, watching, I go, that's Jimmy's car. Yeah. Jimmy's got a warrant. I'll pull your car over. I don't give a fuck. Because I know you got a warrant. So if I pull you over, if I pull over your wife driving it, I go, oh, sorry. This is Richard. Jimmy, he's got a warrant. Have a good day. If I pull you over and you got a kilo with a trunk in the car, I don't know if. I don't know if that would be suppressed. I get you. You're my warrant. But I. If I was like, hey, I didn't pull him over a tail light. I pulled him over because I know that's Jimmy's car. He just happened to be there.

[Mike]

The warrant you'd have to. That gets into, like, the inventory search versus the search of the wingspan of the driver. That crime has to be related to what they Scott for. Yeah, so.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. So. And then in other cases, like to talk backwards about that. Whereas we were on wiretaps, and we knew there were drugs in the car, but we wouldn't. Didn't want to disclose the wire yet. So it's like, how do you beat that? So I remember we stopped a guy, and we thought they bought the dope. We knew they had a lot of money. They went to Orlando, came back. He's like. He made a phone call. He's like, I'm loaded down. So we're like, all right, he's got the dope. Let's stop him. So we pulled him over for some bogus speeding. Well, we searched the car, and there's, like, 35, 000 in cash on the back seat. Both dudes are sitting in the front seat going, I don't know. Nobody. What money. So that we knew they went to go buy dope with that money. So we seized it, but then had to, like, skirt the. Skirt the seizure without disclosing that we knew it was in there based on phone calls. Then, like, the girlfriend came forward, was like, oh, I took that money out of the bank last week to buy a new lot in the middle of something. Like. So there's all those little tricks when you're, like, running a wire, running a massive investigation where you have to, like, skirt the. The law. You're not breaking the law. I don't want anybody to think we're breaking law. We're just working around the fact that running on. We don't want to tell them that we're listening to their phone. You don't want to disclose their.

[Tyler]

I would tell if I said my probable cause. The fact that I heard you say it on the wiretap. Yeah, now you're good. But now the whole wire.

[Mike]

Yeah. So we would, like. We'd have to, like, lie about how we got the money or how we got to that thing until it was time to disclose. I ran, like. I think I wrote 13 different wiretaps over my career and was involved in, like, a couple of those massive cases, which is cool. It's different these days with all the apps, But I was all the way back to, like, when a guy actually had a phone in his Hand. It was very simple.

[Tyler]

Simple.

[Jimmy]

And they called it, they had the Nokia.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was, yeah, 5190, 5150, whatever. With the snake on it.

[Jimmy]

The Snake name. Do you know Michael Francis? He, he was a, a mafia capo in the, one of the, one of the fan. One of the five families in New York. And he, he defrauded the government on it on a gas tax scam for like $5 billion. And he's got a YouTube channel, too. And I'm like, dude, I want that guy to be between you two. You two.

[Mike]

I have a great guest coming up. Yeah, I have a guy who went to federal prison for running pill mills and got commuted under Biden. And the story goes all the way back to us being like teenagers. Like, he knew me as a very young man. I knew him. He went one direction, I went the other direction. And we kind of skirted each other our whole lives. Where he was doing his drug thing, I was doing the cop thing. Bless you. Thank you. And we're gonna get him on. And he's a big personality on YouTube right now too, as well. And the, with the federal guys have been in federal prison. But we'll do him on a Monday. He'll be a great Monday guest. Really cool episode. He's a, he's a good episode.

[Jimmy]

I, I, I love talking to career criminals.

[Mike]

Yes. And he's, it's actually, he checks on me more than the guys I worked with. You know, he calls me and checks how you doing? More often. And he, you know, he actually talks about how he had people follow me, how he, I mean, it's a cool story. Like, it's like, yeah, he actually had a movie deal he was working on because he did some wild. I'm not going to disclose his name because it's his brand, but when he's ready to come on. We basically worked in the same town. One was a dope runner, one was a cop. And we knew each other, knew all the same people. And it's, it's a really wild story when you get to the bottom of it.

[Jimmy]

So if, if, if you'll give me one second. I know we're not supposed to do this all your seconds, but the reason why we're not going to talk about the TK Afghan episode is because we're gonna have my buddy Jesse come on. Who would much rather talk about the epic heroism of the entire pull up from.

[Mike]

He was there, right?

[Jimmy]

He was on the ground with the 82nd Airborne.

[Mike]

So let's tell A positive story.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we want. He does not want to talk about Tim Kennedy.

[Tyler]

Nobody wants to. Is there one person in there asking about T.K. yeah, and I'm not on you, bro. But dude, God, how are you? I know a for a fact I've you told talk to so many people that will say to me, I'm so sick of all of this drama, but they're terrified to say it out in the open. So I. Bro, it's a done deal, man.

[Mike]

You know, and obviously some of the reels were cut on some of those shows you're talking about about, you know, that you. Some of the knocks were like, you guys called everybody. Now it's your turn, and you're hiding all this. Just like everything else we talked about, about changing or being upfront. This show was calling a lot of people out and all that stuff. But it has nothing to do with other than it's time to go in a different direction. One of the hosts left. There's a new co host. So it's like, we're not going. We're hiding from a bunch of stuff. We're not calling you about. We'll call people out that need to be called out, but we're taking everything and kind of we're going on. We're on the Cincinnati. We are a different direction. If people need to be called out, they'll be called out.

[Jimmy]

And Mike, you're. I, I, I really want you. Like I, I submit this to you. I want you. I, I would like you to look into the Clearwater Police Department and how much they bow down to the goddamn Scientologists. Would you do that?

[Mike]

Really? Oh, I'd love to. I, I posted one of their female cops looking like trash the other day. So with her mags backward, I did hit Clearwater, so.

[Jimmy]

Hey, hey, Captain Johnson. Captain Johnson.

[Mike]

We're calling people out. So much for being nice. We're done being nice. Captain Johnson.

[Jimmy]

Captain Johnson, who was in the Ranger regiment, who I know who's a good man. He's a really good man. He's a really good cop. And, and I don't know how he's still in that agency. He knows who he is.

[Tyler]

Is he a bad guy or a good.

[Jimmy]

No, he's a good cop.

[Tyler]

Sounds like he's a bad guy.

[Jimmy]

He's a great cop.

[Tyler]

He knows who he is.

[Jimmy]

He's a great cop. I, I don't understand how you can be in the Clearwater Police Department as such a great guy.

[Mike]

Because they submit to the. And it happens at every agency. It's a toxic narcissist job.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. You ever known a guy, you're like, dude, like, I would go anywhere for this guy. Like, I would do anything for you.

[Mike]

I thought I had about 20 guys I would do.

[Jimmy]

Like. And then you look and you're like, bro, how can you be okay with this?

[Mike]

My favorite is like, they tell you to your face, they're like, man, what's happening to you is up, dude. But I'm not saying nothing because I don't want to get in trouble. I mean, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say anything about that because I don't want to be a problem.

[Jimmy]

That. That, that's the. But to your point, that's the kind of stuff that does need to get called out.

[Mike]

That. That's what I do. That's cop. That's. That's Copville. And sometimes dudes in. In gun stores with their gear on and civilian clothes get called out and caught in the crosshairs. But the concept behind Copville was administrations have too much power. They. They are narcissists. They treat you like shit. They gaslight you and make you think that you're the problem. And when you finally realize you're not, that's the dudes that go home and eat their gun. The dudes that see dead babies. I say this a thousand times and I'll say it to the day I die. The calls suck. But I knew I was going to see dead people. I knew I was going to have to tell a mom her son's dead. I knew I was going to have to do CPR on a young child. I knew that. I knew it. I knew I was going to work holidays. The cop wise like to talk about my husband has to work holidays. I knew that. I knew going in the job I was gonna have to do up stuff. I was good with it. I didn't know that the people that stood next to me when I was doing that stuff were going to choose a diesel truck payment or. Or a job or selling their soul to. To other men. And you. I didn't know that was gonna happen. And I was told it wasn't gonna happen. I was told.

[Tyler]

And then a guy's balls.

[Mike]

I didn't know that was good. I didn't know I knew that part.

[Jimmy]

And we got Tyler kind of bring. He's like, hey man, we can't go. We can't go too dark, so we can't go.

[Mike]

But that's super chats. That's why you. I'm telling you that's the part of the law enforcement career. And I'm sure the military for the military is the same way.

[Tyler]

So long to realize that I.

[Jimmy]

Listen, you got out.

[Mike]

You, you didn't. You saw it quick.

[Jimmy]

I, I did 10 years in the U.S. army. And when I joined the army, I was a true believer, man. Believed everything the government told me. And you could argue that I still do because the moon landing, I beach to it. But I believed everything the government told me. I went to Iraq and thought, there's weapon of mass destruction there. We're gonna save the world. We're gonna, we're gonna keep another 9, 11.

[Mike]

Because you know why? Because you're a good fucking person. You read the Bible and you're, you're, you're, that's who you are. And they prey on people like you and me and him, but because they go, these dudes are. I might be a dick to hate me. I say stupid like I'm loud. You hate New Jersey acts, whatever you're gonna call me. But if you want to go to war and me and you are that type of. We're dying together. That's what we're doing.

[Jimmy]

We're gonna sit in this fox dying together.

[Mike]

And that's the type of person I am. But when you stand next to a guy who told you they were gonna die with you for 15, 18 years and yeah, ride or die, ride or die, I'll be honest with you. That dude right there, this dude right here, it took me six months to realize that's who he was. I've known you a month and I can tell, you know, when you're around the people that you can trust that are ride or die. The problem with police is they're chameleons. They act like it. They act like it. And you don't ever get to the point of what happened to you. You lose a co host you got, they're like, oh, what's going on? Ride or die, man. We're here, we're here. I don't care if there's four people watching or 4, 000 people watching. We're here. I'm here with you. I'm here. Even you, I'm here. But there are people will tell you that, that you work with in law enforcement or the military. And the second they have to step out and go, the captain's not gonna like if I stick up for you, man. I'm sorry, I'm not, I can't, I can't.

[Jimmy]

And you and you always go, bro.

[Mike]

I Kind of understand you do until you don't.

[Jimmy]

And then. And then one day you go.

[Mike]

And they know what they say when you do it.

[Jimmy]

What?

[Mike]

That Dukes is crazy. He's off the rails. He's a psychopath. No, I'm a real one. That's what I am. And I'm not letting anybody change it.

[Jimmy]

You know, if you're really lucky, if you're really lucky in an infantry platoon, you get a bunch of guys like that and you can weed the other ones out.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think it's better in the military that.

[Jimmy]

But I.

[Tyler]

The military, they're kind of those guys, they self. They weed themselves.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, they weed themselves.

[Mike]

And they're not cutthroat, competing for promotions. You guys are all.

[Jimmy]

We live in the barracks promotions.

[Mike]

That's the. Yeah, the. The military or the police promotions system creates a toxic environment because you're willing to step on your Buddy for a $10,000 rate where you guys get promoted across the board by number.

[Jimmy]

Like, hey, it's. It's time to go.

[Tyler]

I worked. It was so big. You really didn't have to worry about people. The promotion, like, yeah, that's a small.

[Mike]

That's a small agency thing.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but it's where I worked. It was just everybody like, loving their new assignment. Didn't want to piss anybody off.

[Jimmy]

So, like, what was the difference between that and being in the 500 fist?

[Tyler]

Nothing, man. I mean, there was bags my platoon. But like you said, they weed themselves out.

[Jimmy]

They weed them out.

[Tyler]

They were cops.

[Mike]

Don't. You don't weed them out. In the cop world, you get promoted, you get told that you're a good guy.

[Jimmy]

So we, we had a. We had a kid in Iraq. I mean, this is how he weeded himself out. He had, you know, you know how everybody like at. In. This is 2008, everybody sort of shares hard drives, shares thumb drives, right. Of porn, right? Everybody's like passing it around, right. Hey, Lumber, his.

[Tyler]

His was an ied and he got blown up and he died.

[Jimmy]

Nope. No, we. We found Lumberg's computer with guys, wives and you know, because women send, you know, pictures to their.

[Tyler]

How do you get.

[Jimmy]

So he was on other people's computers, like, hey, man, can I borrow your laptop? And.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Tyler]

And so, Mike, what do you even think about that? What is that? What do you think about that? A guy taps in, essentially plugs in a hard drive to take your porn, and he somehow he.

[Jimmy]

He finds the pictures of your wife.

[Tyler]

Goes through and finds your wife and he downloads the platoon wise, that Guy, I'll tell you what. Shipbag? Yes. Sleazy. Yes.

[Jimmy]

Lumberg.

[Tyler]

Living in 2016 when it was 2008.

[Mike]

That's smart.

[Tyler]

I'm not gonna watch the same porn, y'.

[Mike]

All. If your flavor isn't generic porn models, and your flavor is more mom next door, you got the jackpot, dude. Did you know they're real?

[Tyler]

Hey, Jimmy, I'm watching you. Your wife.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, he had pictures of my wife. He had pictures. He had pictures of my wife.

[Tyler]

Well, yeah. They're on Instagram, dude.

[Jimmy]

So you have pictures of my wife. You have pictures of everybody's like. And they're not. She's not naked, by the way.

[Mike]

Just my wife to bang, bang, play it first. But she's definitely. She's clothed.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she's. So. No, it's cool. But, like, he had. He had like, I. He had Price Martin. He had both the machine gunners.

[Mike]

Wives.

[Tyler]

We gotta go. Super chat.

[Jimmy]

Oh, no.

[Tyler]

Didn't mean to cut you off.

[Jimmy]

No, no, you're good. You're good. Point of order.

[Moderator]

All right, we got Jefferson Newbie. Boy, super chats are hard tonight. My girl was cleaning the oven and I got a whole story, but I kept getting some BS message, it won't go through. And then 784B Mike, ever heard of Stingray? No one will ever discuss it. And the feds have agreements with agencies not to disclose it, but very little about it on online.

[Mike]

We called it something different, but I. I know what he's talking about. I do know it.

[Moderator]

That's all you want to.

[Mike]

That's it, huh? That's it.

[Tyler]

I want to say, Jefferson, Newbie, your girl was cleaning the oven and got a whole story, but I kept getting some BS messages I won't go through. What does that mean?

[Moderator]

I think the, like, the, like an error message. Like, the super chat wasn't going through.

[Tyler]

Oh, all right.

[Mike]

I think he usually goes up, usually has a funny story. Oh, he does.

[Tyler]

Like that.

[Mike]

He got it. Like, my wife was yelling at me. The other was.

[Moderator]

Yeah, yeah, he got it through right here.

[Mike]

There he goes.

[Moderator]

Ian Paul. Michael Francesci. Francesi was a capo with the Colombos.

[Tyler]

What's a copper?

[Moderator]

That's who Jimmy was talking about.

[Jimmy]

So Michael Francis was a capo. That's a captain.

[Mike]

Captain.

[Jimmy]

A captain in the mafia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. He's. He's a great guy. True. He's a believer. Like, that guy would be awesome.

[Tyler]

Reformed.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. He's. He's out of the life. He is. He's a dude you would want to listen to.

[Moderator]

All right, Jefferson. Newbie with $20. My girl was cleaning the oven, asked if she needed help, and she said no. And go watch my Tiny Hero show. I told her to take more creatine for her elbow grease. Now her right arm is huge. Little Jeff o. Getting attention tonight.

[Mike]

Five seconds.

[Moderator]

And then CJ with $10, but no message.

[Mike]

All right, somebody's got to pit a song here, right?

[Tyler]

Hey, I'm gonna pick my. Yeah, we can pick our own.

[Mike]

Did you see Jack's message? He said he thought the cancer guy comment was good.

[Tyler]

That was Jack.

[Mike]

That was from a cancer guy. We're good. We have to say the C word.

[Tyler]

Hey, we have a friend with cancer.

[Mike]

I have a cancer friend.

[Tyler]

Well, there's a couple more videos I want to watch. If you go to the Instagram.

[Jimmy]

Hey, is Sal gonna come back on that?

[Tyler]

Sal never came on.

[Mike]

So his parents came on.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

He's trying to. He's got an open case, and he doesn't know if he's going back to work or what's gonna happen.

[Jimmy]

I would really like to talk to that dude.

[Mike]

Yeah, dude.

[Jimmy]

Need to.

[Mike]

On our biggest supporter.

[Tyler]

I'm not shitting.

[Mike]

That's a.

[Tyler]

You know what I did.

[Mike]

That's a.

[Tyler]

You know what I said was. It was Philly. I said, how many. I said. I was talking to the crowd, right? It was our first live show, I think, with anti. I was talking to crowd. Sal and his whole family are there. And I was like, we got any? We. I was like, we got a wild crowd tonight. How many military vets? Hey, how many cops? Okay. How many felons we got? And no one raised. And I go, sal, raise your hand. And, like, they got a kick out of it.

[Mike]

That's. That's better than what you just said.

[Tyler]

What?

[Mike]

That was better. That's. That was acceptable.

[Tyler]

He's got cop humor.

[Mike]

He's very funny. But Andy just had a cheap joke.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I. I mean, him and. Him and Eddie both just getting a raw deal.

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, that's what people do.

[Jimmy]

No, no, no, no, no. That's what the government does.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah. Sal's is insane.

[Tyler]

Can you go back to Instagram so I can see it real quick?

[Moderator]

So we were at this one.

[Tyler]

All right. Keep going down, down, down, down. Oh, man, I don't have.

[Moderator]

It's. Discovers bodies in woman's trunk during traffic.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Oh, I've seen that.

[Tyler]

All right. Don't watch it. No, no, no. Keep going, Keep going.

[Mike]

That's a drive by thing. On the cops.

[Tyler]

Oh, this one's great because this is my, this is. Listen to the screams. Very warrior esque. Very warriors.

[Mike]

Who was the first one to go towards the fire?

[Tyler]

She's still screaming, bro. While he's going to the fire.

[Mike]

He's going to look for the tag at least.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that guy is heading.

[Mike]

Izzo was right.

[Jimmy]

So was Hegseth. Right? And like, hey, this may not weed out.

[Tyler]

Oh, God, we gotta talk about that.

[Mike]

You have the video.

[Jimmy]

We still got time.

[Tyler]

I'm not watching. We're not.

[Jimmy]

It's 45 minutes long.

[Mike]

There's like a clip where he goes, ham.

[Jimmy]

I mean, he said no fat chicks.

[Mike]

Is what he said.

[Jimmy]

He, he said, he said no fat generals.

[Mike]

Yeah. No fat anybody.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, like if, hey, you are having a PT test right after this.

[Tyler]

No, and what, what's awesome is that he said, you know, we have this, we have this new saying, like, strength through peace. Peace through strength. And he said, or it's called around and find out. And so, you know, he, he was very double wide.

[Mike]

Dan. Monday, 10am this Monday. Call in, text in, tune in. You can tell your female cop story. Go ahead. He's got a female cop story. We'd love to hear it.

[Tyler]

But I mean, he was just, he was like, we have to stop, you know, this, this.

[Mike]

That Seems like we shouldn't have to say that though.

[Tyler]

No, that's what he's saying.

[Jimmy]

Well, we, we did, we didn't have to say that. We didn't have to say it during the global war on terror, because it was pretty fucking obvious. Like, hey, if you, if you go down range and you're a fat, slovenly piece of shit, you're going to die. But probably not. You're probably gonna get somebody else fucking killed. Well, that's what's really happening.

[Tyler]

One of his things is, like, the females and he kept saying, like, you know, females will be taking a PT test that is male. Like, everyone in combat arms is going to take the same standard PT test. And I'm like, that's so foreign to me because women weren't allowed on combat arms.

[Jimmy]

I, I was, I, I.

[Tyler]

And then I asked my buddy, hey, how. What's that life? Like? I'm thinking that he's like, dude, I'm, I've, I'm in the 82nd Airborne. I still have yet to see a woman in our company, in our battalion. Like, they're just, they're not there. Because here's the thing too, is women don't want that shit. There's One in a blue moon that want to try and prove themselves. The rest of the women don't want how much.

[Jimmy]

So I have a. I have a friend of mine who was in the 25th ID with me. Ashley. She was. I wanted. She would say she was mi. I can't remember. She's 6 foot 2. She's got biceps bigger than my head. She's a professional bodybuilder.

[Mike]

Drugs?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, for sure. But even when she put tiny wiener.

[Tyler]

Where her clit used to be.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, pretty much that big, right? Like, do I think that does the five second rule? Dude, she's. She's six foot two before she did any of the drugs.

[Mike]

I mean, she was already that way. You girl.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she was already a freak as a. As a. A human before anything else. Do I think she could have made it in the infantry? Yeah. Do you know how many of those I met?

[Tyler]

Do you. But here's the thing. She could. She probably. And she probably knew she could have. The thing is, she probably didn't want it.

[Jimmy]

No, no, that's. That's exactly where I was going. She was like, oh, you know, I'm a woman.

[Tyler]

I got nails, I got lashes.

[Jimmy]

I never wanted to be in the.

[Tyler]

Industry because they know. I'm not even gonna say they know. They know where they help. Like, a true woman knows exactly where she fits in the. The yin and yang of life and humping ruck sacks. No showers with all the stinky men is not where they want to be.

[Mike]

But let's take it to the cop world. If regardless of your sex, the job is identical, no matter what, if you're male or female. So why. Why would we have a different PT standard for men and women?

[Jimmy]

Any. Any.

[Mike]

The job description is identical. It's identical.

[Tyler]

I have no idea why we.

[Mike]

Why is that a thing?

[Tyler]

I don't know how di.

[Mike]

30 by 30. All them stupid ideas. If your job description is a cop and I have to. Do I have to be able to lift this much weight, run this fat?

[Tyler]

It's not even the cop world. The. The whole military has women's and men's.

[Mike]

So. So I could get behind that. Because if the women are in combat and their only job is to drive a truck, be in the supply room nurse, that's different. But when you're a cop, your job, regardless of what's between your legs, is identical. So why is. There should never be.

[Jimmy]

So what you're really talking about is your response to a bad situation needs to be identical. That's the real thing that we're talking about, when we're talking about effects on the battlefield, I'm saying that the female saw gunner and the male saw gunners effects on the battlefield should be equal. Right. The female cop and the male cop, if they run into somebody, the effects on them on the street should be equal.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

So that's really what. It's not the standard that needs to be equal. It's that we need to understand that we're talking about effects on the battle. I mean I have to, to use the battlefield effects on the battlefield, you need to be able to do the exact same thing. If you can't do that, I don't care if you're a dude that played Xbox most of your life and can't hack it or if you're a female, I don't care.

[Mike]

I agree. But like today I posted a video of a female so short she could barely see over the window of the car like into the car of an SUV. It's like 4 9, 4 10. It's not, it just doesn't make sense to me. There is there a place maybe in law enforcement. But then you're separating the job from everybody does the same job to now we're hiring just for a certain job at the core of law enforcement. Everybody. The job description of I have to go put bad guys in jail. Everybody should have to perform at the same level. And a 4 foot dude, 4 foot 10, 5 foot dude let in Tyrion Lannister or a 5 foot 120 pound woman equally cannot do the job of an average sized male. So why do we lower the standards and allow those people to get into the job?

[Jimmy]

Here's the Remember we started to talk about this on the Monday. By the way, if you're not watching the broadcast, you're fucking wrong. But we started to talk about this where it was like hey, the Marine Corps did a study on an all male platoon, a mixed male female platoon and an all female platoon. They're all there. The, the mixed platoon, the males started to suffer quite a bit more injuries, athletic injuries, because they were doing more because the female couldn't carry the ruck, she couldn't carry the 240.

[Tyler]

You can see that in any type of team environment. You know, I want. I could be careful what I say.

[Jimmy]

Because there's like a lot there I don't give a.

[Tyler]

My son, my son plays peewee football, right? And they're not, they're not a platoon full of killers. They're split into three. There's ones that go out there and perform Ones that maintain and ones that quit.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Tyler]

The performers are getting hurt hand over fist like three kids out a game, like due to concussion and stuff, because they're over, they're carrying too much weight for the team.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Tyler]

So that's the same, that is the same argument as a platoon, the mixed platoon. The men are getting hurt because they're naturally carrying, literally, metaphorically and physically carrying more weight.

[Jimmy]

Right?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So, and, and some of the arguments.

[Tyler]

I see there's arguments for women or.

[Mike]

Police, and some of the arguments are there's a place for them here. Here's my point. And I'm not the guy that says that there's a human resources.

[Jimmy]

I mean, look at your wife.

[Mike]

Even then, even then, take somebody. I don't care what you say. A 5, 2, 5, 3, 120 pound woman cannot arrest me. No, it's not happening. I don't care.

[Jimmy]

She's gonna have to.

[Mike]

Or if she gets to her taser before I smack her in the face or whatever just happened on that video. But if I go, I just committed murder.

[Tyler]

Most guys out of respect for women.

[Mike]

Yes. But if I say I just killed 10 people and this woman that's 5 to 130 pounds walks up to me and says, sir, put your hands behind your back. There is a 0.0% chance that she's gonna take me into custody.

[Jimmy]

If my wife tried to get, you know, roll. I mean, remember my wife was in the army. Like I, if, if it ever came down to that, like, dude, it's not fucking happening, man. It's not, it's not happening. And, and of course my wife will be in the comments going like, I know that it's not gonna happen.

[Mike]

And then when you have a thing called 30 by 30 initiative that, yeah, you need to explain that 30 by 30 is 30 women cops by the year 2030, which is five years away. That is just numbers. That means at all costs, we are going to set a number and we are going to try to achieve 30% of the police force in the United States of America to be 30 women. That is the most dangerous initiative in history of law enforcement.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, can, can we peel that apart intellectually? Sure. I mean, I know, I know, I know it's for the boys and I'm being a professor, so keep it simple. But, but let's, let's go with that. Right? 30 female. For what reason?

[Mike]

Because it's the right thing to do.

[Jimmy]

It's the right thing.

[Mike]

There's no, there is no reason. Because they're Trying gender gap, all that stuff.

[Tyler]

It's demonic is what it is. It Long, long term. This whole thing is. I sound like my wife.

[Jimmy]

No, I.

[Tyler]

Is I actually convincing people that they are what they are not and giving them strength through generations to be. And it's so bad. Now cop. Female cops in the 90s knew they're. They knew they were on the. They were on.

[Mike]

They looked like Greg Valentine and they.

[Tyler]

Knew that they were on the block. You remember all the time.

[Jimmy]

Police academy.

[Tyler]

They had their. And when I say their place, I don't mean their place, but they, like, they knew they were fighting an uphill battle every day. Yeah, they knew it, but they did it. They trained and they did their best to keep up with the men. And you know what? None of us have anything to say about that. They're out there, they're maintaining standards and they're keeping up. Are they equal? Absolutely not. You know, but they're trying. The females coming in today really, truly believe that they're equal, that they. That they. And it's. And it's sad and it's. That is the spiritual warfare that's going on.

[Jimmy]

There's a video out there of a female Marine fighting a male soldier.

[Mike]

Oh, I've seen it.

[Jimmy]

Have you seen bugle sticks?

[Mike]

Yeah, no, there's another one where, yeah, he boxing. She gets.

[Jimmy]

She. Female Marine steps into the. A boxing ring with an army soldier.

[Tyler]

Is it on YouTube?

[Jimmy]

It is. It's everywhere. He whoops the. Out of her and she's like, oh, I'm a female Marine. And he beats. He beats the brakes off her.

[Mike]

And I know I'm not supposed to look at the comments, but there's a female in the comments that says throwing a fit. And this is what I'm talking about there. Do you want to be a cop? That's great. There's a. There, I guess there's a place. There's a place in the detective division. There's a place in. In the sex crimes unit. There's a place that everybody can do females. A lot of females shoot better than men by far.

[Jimmy]

More controlled, easier to teach children, by the way.

[Mike]

So multiple. Obviously there's a place, but now there's multiple. If we're going to take that idea and go, okay, so now you don't have. Now there's no such thing as regular street cops anymore. Now there's male street cops and female cops. Now we're separating the two, going, okay, so females can do these kind of jobs, but men are. We're just right back to separating everything. So why do we bring it together in the first place? Policing is dangerous. You have to be alone and you have to arrest a 300 pound dude. That would be very difficult for me. That's a big dude for you. I take my chances. But if a 5, 2, 120 pound female has to do the same thing, her chances are very, very lower. If, if that she's going to be able to do that.

[Jimmy]

And me, you and me, with our experience of training how to arrest a 300 pound dude on angel dust.

[Mike]

We're, he's, we're probably killing him.

[Jimmy]

We're gonna have to kill him.

[Mike]

We might have to kill him. So I'm not saying it to say women just say, just to say women shouldn't be cops. It just leads to other things. And I think Dominic is always correct on this matter. It leads to men peacocking. It leads to men instinct kicking in that they have to protect a smaller female. It leads to that the, the, the effect of like I have to overwatch. Maybe I use more force because this guy cussed out a female or pushed her. There's just a lot of things that go along that 30 by 30 is a problem.

[Jimmy]

You ever, you ever rode around and watched the Pogue units do a road march?

[Mike]

Yeah, I have.

[Jimmy]

And I say pogues with all respect. We're talking about not in our, in me and Tyler's day, Infantry field. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Back in the 70s he was 80.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. In our day, infantry field, artillery, cab scouts and tankers were all male, 100 male.

[Tyler]

But they're still not. Cascade and ticker still are Pogues. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

By definition. But non combat arms.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Units.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Jimmy]

And so you'd go past the, the brigade support battalion or the special troops battalion or whatever the. It was the aviation regiment. And you'd see the females. Right. You're, you're in your Humvee, you're driving, you know, off to the range or you're going to the motor pool, whatever it is. You see them doing their road marches. Every female always had a male dick escort. Did you ever notice that?

[Tyler]

A what?

[Jimmy]

A male dick escort.

[Mike]

What is that?

[Jimmy]

It's so a female who has the male walking with her on her.

[Mike]

Oh, because she fell back and he's got to stay.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

And he probably feels like he's doing. Yes. Oh yeah.

[Mike]

The same in the police world.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

Men will drive faster when a female gets on the radio and calls for backup. Men will use more force if they're defending a female that has, is in a Use of force incident. Dominizzo breaks it down. I know people don't like what he says. I know some of the stuff he says is.

[Tyler]

Is.

[Mike]

Is a lot. I was completely on the other side of this until I really started thinking and broke down my career. And how I watch how men have overreacted to their female partners needing help or being involved in 30 by 30 in and of itself, to push a number for strictly a number. Not because we have so many great female cops that are ready to go to war. We're just going to make sure we have 30%. You're going. That one's good. That one's good.

[Jimmy]

And can we. We need to hit that. That super chat.

[Tyler]

Am I singing at all?

[Jimmy]

No, I can read it.

[Mike]

Go ahead. You want to read it?

[Jimmy]

I'll get. Let me get Jeff Jefferson. Newbie first.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Jimmy]

I. I got it right here.

[Mike]

Good.

[Jimmy]

He said served 22 years from 1998 to 2020. Thank you for your service, bro. No, seriously, thank you for your Service. Was in OIF OH4 and OH605-07. Thwarted an attack on Abu Grave Prison on April 2, 2000 or 2005. Heroes never mentioned gender, race, Religion was never a factor. It was all trust amongst the team. A story that was never told. Hey, nobody ever. Just because we're saying, hey, I don't agree with this. I don't think anybody in this room is taken away from the courage, skill, professionalism of anybody who went downrange, regardless of their race or gender.

[Mike]

That's a different. Don't care if they went there and did the job. We got no commend them hundred should they be there. That's a different.

[Jimmy]

That's the argument we're having is, well, that's.

[Tyler]

And then to circle back, that's what Hegseth said, is that none of this matters. If the standards are met, none of this matters. But he was. He was addressing the elephant in the room when he said, we got a. He essentially said if. If it fucking walks like a duck, you know, like, hey. And he even said, are we saying women cannot be in combat arms? Absolutely not.

[Jimmy]

No, we are not.

[Tyler]

But he's saying, but is it a chance? It'll never happen. Sure.

[Mike]

There's always.

[Tyler]

And he's like, we're not. He's like, we're not promising to people. This is just standard.

[Mike]

We had a. We had a female make our SWAT team when the.

[Tyler]

When the really make it or politically make it.

[Mike]

No, politically make it. And it was when there was leeway in now, it's. You have to pass. You have to pass these six things. Like, you have to. There's no whatever back then it was, you could fail this one and that one. And if your overall performance throughout the day was okay and you were liked, you got on. And I have no problem with the female. She's actually really squared away and went on to be a fan.

[Jimmy]

Dude, your wife looks like she's ready to do Battle Drill six.

[Mike]

But my point being is, is that she wouldn't have passed it under the. If the standard was across the board. Yeah, wouldn't have. And I, you know, it had come up about my wife trying out for SWAT a couple times when. After I made the team and all that. And she always, you know, I kind of said that. That it's. She said, if they relax one standard, one rep, I don't want to be.

[Tyler]

A part of it.

[Mike]

It. And I don't want to pass a female version of it. I would only want to pass the male version or the standard. So that's one way of looking at it. And then there's the other way. Looking at it is just let it slide or let's have a relaxed tryout or let's have a different standard when it comes to combat. And I'm not saying, again, if you're talking street cops and if we're. If we're hiring street cops, there should be a single standard that everybody has to pass. And a female can pass it, then so be it. She's a cop, she can do it. But you can't completely separate the job and say, well, these are the street cops and now these are the women. Because then the women are going into the positions like detective and all that, that don't see the street. So how do the men get into those jobs? Because now the women have all those jobs. So you're creating a negative thing by doing 30 by 30 is a negative all across the board because it takes a group of people, regardless of their women. Whatever it is, you're taking a group of people and saying, we're going to put this many of that person in this job just because of. We want to hit a number. That is my problem.

[Jimmy]

So my wife's point of view was this. Okay, so she was. She was with me when. When the female started getting integrated into the infantry. And she. And remember, she was in the army and she. Her opinion was, your ego as a female is so big that you're willing to sacrifice my husband so that you can get into the infantry, even though You. That's her argument. That's not my argument. That's her argument that, like, you're gonna let my husband do more work. And.

[Tyler]

Well, I think my. My wife calls them pick me girls.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

My wife calls them like, you can't. You know, you can't compete. And this is. I'm just telling you how it is. There's women that know they can't compete in a room full of real women, so they run to the men who pick them. Like, I'm a pick me girl. Pick me. I'm cool like you guys. And so the women all see that shit. Like, fucking. They can. They could see it a mile away. They're like, that bitch would never last in a room full of real women. Because, again, real women. I always go back to, like, Vietnam or World War II, where, like, they all had to get together, and they're like, we're. Most of us are gonna lose our husbands. We have to maintain these households. We have to maintain our children. Like, they knew they weren't going to war, but they still had such an intricate part in the family and in society. And so when you get guys like us that, you know, a platoon full of dudes or, you know, like, a squad full of dudes, and all the wives get together and they support each other through. You know, and it's. As much as it sucks, dude, I'm telling you right now, cops, wives have to kind of realize the fact that you. One of those nights where you're still used to him not being there, you are. You might open the door to. And, you know, as soon as you open that door, what happened? They're not. They're not coming there to say, hey, he's injured. Typically, yes. And so they have to support each other through that. And a woman that doesn't want to be a part of that, but wants to run and embed herself in with the men is sometimes called a Jezebel.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You know, it's like, they're. They're not. They're not good.

[Jimmy]

And let's be really.

[Tyler]

And we don't want you, by the way. I'm sorry. We don't want you in the room full of dudes that are talking about dude stuff. And I don't have to worry about my mouth or offending you or wearing deodorant that day or wash my balls. I don't want you there. No dude wants you there. Unless he wants to. You.

[Mike]

Let me see.

[Tyler]

Is that. Is that hard to understand?

[Mike]

Let me say one.

[Tyler]

You're not Special.

[Mike]

One other thing.

[Tyler]

Let me cook.

[Mike]

You're cooking. But let me say one thing because there's somebody that disappoints me more. You fat men and out of shape piece of cops. Men that.

[Jimmy]

Oh my God.

[Mike]

That women are in better shape than you. That.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

That is the biggest disgrace to law.

[Jimmy]

Enforcement that you allow by nature.

[Mike]

You're. You have testosterone, you have muscles. You are able to be superior and you let yourself become a fake fat slob or you let women outperform you. It's not a competition. But I'm making this argument. I'm making this argument that women xyz. But yes. And I see it in the comments. There are fat, disgusting men that get outperformed by women every day.

[Jimmy]

What is there if the 5 foot 11 chick who does crossfit beats the out of you because you're a gigantic slovenly piece of. Who wants to play Xbox and still call yourself a cop?

[Mike]

Go. It's a heart. It's a tough world, kid. But if you look like and there are women outperforming you, you failed, buddy. You failed.

[Tyler]

And have the genetic advantage.

[Jimmy]

You had all of the advantage.

[Tyler]

So.

[Mike]

And that's where I go with the set with the women. Like that's where I understand where women go. And they're right. They are right form these men. These. Just look at all the up men. Look at all the fat club.

[Jimmy]

That's our fault.

[Mike]

I agree. That's because we're not allowed to bully anymore. I'm not allowed to walk up to someone.

[Jimmy]

I can't look at you and go, hey, you fat disgusting piece of. Would you please get in shape or go find another job. Because you're putting me.

[Tyler]

You know what's funny? In this day and age right now, you can't say when I grew up. You could say this.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You can't say the women are beating you. You fat disgusting piece of. You know that the women.

[Mike]

Because all the fat disgusting pieces and are command staff now. They're not. You're not allowed to say it.

[Jimmy]

Seth went into.

[Tyler]

I was thinking about the women.

[Jimmy]

Did you see that picture? Did you see that picture of the generals? Like, he was like, hey, it looks like a Weight Watchers convention in here. And then there's a picture of all the generals who are like this and they all are fat and out of shape.

[Mike]

Yep. And that's, that's the, that's the counter argument to where I, I say that about women. But the woman's comeback and they are justified to say, look at all your fear. Fat, sloppy man.

[Jimmy]

And they have the right.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

If society has the right.

[Mike]

And me as a co worker the same way, I could look and go, that woman shouldn't be working here because she's tiny. Your fat ass shouldn't be working here either, because you're out of shape and you can't get out of your own way.

[Jimmy]

And I should be able to go. You know, when we were in the infantry, when the three of us were in the infantry, I don't know how it was for you, because back in the dinosaur. Yeah, it was. It was. Yeah, that was. That was post.

[Mike]

A while ago.

[Jimmy]

It was post Desert Storm. Pre gy.

[Tyler]

We got to hit the super chats and then we gotta music.

[Mike]

Give one more minute.

[Tyler]

Oh, sorry.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. So in the infantry, when I was in the infantry, if we had a. If we had a substandard performer, we sent him to hhc.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. How did you guys.

[Tyler]

Company.

[Jimmy]

If you. If you have a substandard performer in the infantry, you send them. Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

You know, honestly, our brigade, you know, we did. We taped in the telephone poles.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, that's where it started, but if you didn't make the grade.

[Mike]

Oh, dude, you're going to. We took them down to the corner and taped them the telephone poles and poured water over them and said, you failed this PTA test again. It's gonna be worse next time. That was my error.

[Jimmy]

Hey, hey. Boar's eye 127 infantry. If you don't still fill up the Boar's Eye, you all are okay. We used to turn the sprinklers on.

[Mike]

Two big super chats, right?

[Jimmy]

Oh, go, go, go, go.

[Mike]

Two more of them.

[Tyler]

More than outro song, baby.

[Mike]

Yep. All right.

[Moderator]

We got Travis B. With two hundo.

[Jimmy]

Jesus.

[Moderator]

First time being able to listen live. Love what you get, what you do. Just looking to support your continuations song Rainbow Connection by Tyler. Just kidding. Rooster by Alice in Chains.

[Tyler]

Just kidding. I don't have.

[Mike]

He wants Rooster bios.

[Jimmy]

Rooster is.

[Mike]

Thank you, dude, so much, dude.

[Tyler]

Rooster.

[Jimmy]

So awesome.

[Moderator]

And the last one is from Jefferson with $20. Guys, sorry, came off wrong. I'm still bitter. This story was never told. Fellas, my point was really about 4-2-05. I really encourage that story being told and really offer to look up the 108th MPCO Abu Ghurab 2005 Jefferson.

[Tyler]

If you can email us that story or just where to find it, the antihero podcast, gmail.com.

[Jimmy]

I'Ll read it for him. I'll read it And I'll go do the research, gonna do the.

[Mike]

Out on the comments. Read out. And don't. Don't forget tomorrow's October 3rd.

[Jimmy]

That's right. I was just thinking that too.

[Mike]

Tomorrow is October 3rd. Tomorrow's October Blackhawk down.

[Jimmy]

Battle of Mogadishu Battle.

[Mike]

Shugart Gordon, one of the. One of the two most heroic men to put a uniform on. I was in Fort Polk. They named a whole village, training Village after Shugar and Gordon. And tomorrow is the anniversary of, of that incident.

[Moderator]

All right, we just got another super chat.

[Mike]

Another super chat. Hit it.

[Moderator]

AM lumber. $20. Turn this around for a few minutes. Let us know who your best mentor was and what good leaders look like. Jimmy Hart's Peen Thursdays for the boys.

[Mike]

Thank you so much, Jimmy. Hit it.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so the best leader that I ever had. And, and it sucks because First Arm Bass is probably going to come on, but it was First Armed Ballader, First Armed Ballinger would come up to me and say little things like, I could have sworn you're a better soldier than that. Just little dumb things. And then, son, don't put your nut sack on somebody.

[Mike]

Don't walk on my grass, son.

[Jimmy]

No, it wasn't.

[Mike]

That's the army's grass.

[Jimmy]

And then I had First Sergeant Holt, who I was getting ready to get out, and he was like, hey, Sergeant Arnett, come over here and sit with me on the Humvee. And we would. We were eating chow here at ntc. And he's like, when people ask you about the war, what do you tell them when you go back home? And I say, well, I tell him it was a war for sure, you know, what do you want to know? And he goes, it was everything you thought it would be, but it was nothing like he thought it would be. And I was like, dude, that's deep. What.

[Tyler]

So mentors, what's your mentor?

[Mike]

My mentor, I see, I had a. I had a false life because I thought these guys were in charge. But my. I would say my mentor, somebody equally actually younger than me would be my best friend, Christian Matheson, who I've worked my whole career with, stayed real throughout it, always put the right thing to do, even when he made rank. And I would look him as the guy that guided me through and got me to where I am as far as accountability standards and 20 years. And you still take a crash report, you still do the right thing. Take the reports, you do the right thing. And he's. He's the one. He's the one. Of all the Guys I worked with that talked to him the day I started, and I talked to him still today.

[Tyler]

Mine, I'm gonna make you all feel like shit. Mine's my dad. But my dad was a career cop and in his prime, he was loving life, he was loving the job. And of course, at the end of the day, in cop work, your day comes where you get. And he got hard. And he spent the remaining years, probably while I was in high school, through the army, through college, telling me and prepping me what, you know, what cop work is really about. Don't sacrifice anything for your family. Don't sacrifice this because the job doesn't care about you. And that goes for government work pretty much everywhere. You know, the military, it. But especially cop work, because the military can't just fire you. Right. They. It takes a long time. You essentially just can't reenlist anymore. If you're that terrible of a soldier or marine, you just can't reenlist. Cop work, they'll flag you, can you? And terminate you very fast. And it's just because they don't like you or you make a bad call or. Or it could happen to anyone and it will happen to you and.

[Mike]

Well, it won't if you. If you do the right thing and stay with the team and. And don't.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, well, it's not the right thing. It's called being a beta male sheep.

[Mike]

Yeah. So.

[Tyler]

And in a world full of alphas.

[Mike]

One more super chat up there. I'll cover that one if you. An honest question. In my day in the Marines, you had to maintain standards physical and so on. Why is this an issue for law enforcement? Why? The issue is that all the leaders that have made it to the higher rank are lazy and. And just don't care. And it became. It's evident now that with all these di. And 30 by 30 and I hate. I'm not picking on women, but we've created an environment in law enforcement where you can no longer hold a standard because nobody wants to do the job anymore. People are tired of getting kind of piggybacks what Tyler said, guys are sick of getting. And they move on to other careers where before there was no other careers for stupid cops. There was no college. You were the cops, were the dumbasses that got GEDs or dropped out of high school or went in the military for a couple years back in my day and became cops. Now there's so many other opportunities. Private business, social media, businesses, other ways to make money.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So people that are really good Cops that will make the maintain the standard won't turn into fat slobs, go, hey, bro, this ain't for me, dude, they're me sideways. It ain't for me. I'm gonna go do something else.

[Jimmy]

Why would you want to be in a position where you are putting your. Your life on the line if you've got a wife and kids? Why. Why would you continue to do it when you're looking around and you're looking to your left and right? I'm sorry.

[Mike]

Unfortunate that they have created and turned law enforcement went into that, where you look around and go, why I joined the military. I'll be honest with you. I joined the army because I. At that age, at 18, I looked around, said, it's the right thing to do. I didn't ever dream of being in the army. I didn't play soldier. I didn't do any of that. I just woke up one day and said, I should probably serve the country. It's the right thing to do. And I went and did it. Nobody really does that anymore. But the few guys that do say, I want to be a cop for the right reason, I want to go. They are now the black sheep. They are the small minority of the guys that are out there physically fit, lifting weights, doing the job, getting at it, and played football. They're surrounded. They're surrounded by people who don't have to meet the standard, don't have to do it. And eventually you just get to the point where you say, fuck it. And then you have that internal struggle where you go, I can't just sit under a tree all day. It's not in my blood. But if I go out and do something, I'm going to get demoted. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get suspended. I'm gonna get in trouble because they're not going to back me. And that internal struggle eventually eats you alive. It eats you alive.

[Jimmy]

And let's. Let's also not take a. Take away from the fact that there is a psychological component to the. That you're seeing.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah. Y.

[Jimmy]

Right. Like. And.

[Mike]

And.

[Jimmy]

And no matter how hard you try, you take it home. Yeah, you take a piece of that home with you.

[Mike]

That's what cops do. We drink monsters and beat our wives. Right?

[Jimmy]

Or so Tyler was accused of. Jesus Christ, he came in hot.

[Mike]

That was. Had nothing to do with anything. That'll be clipped. That'll be clipped. That will be clip it.

[Tyler]

See, they make a mockery clip it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my God.

[Mike]

Damn.

[Jimmy]

You all right, bro? I got the burn.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So we're. We're gonna close it out, man. We're gonna play some songs. We lost our producer, Ronnie Racky. Ronnie Rack. He's the man. So send us your comments, and we are going to engage. Now, don't forget Jen Moxie. Who are you?

[Mike]

I see. I'm on the fence. People want her kicked out.

[Tyler]

No, no, no. She's seems. She seems like. She's just really like a woman. Like, she's argumentative a lot. No offense, but that's what you seem like. But you don't seem like you come with hate, so you're still no.

[Mike]

And then she comes.

[Tyler]

Nice. 784 Bravo.

[Mike]

If it was a dude, you guys wouldn't be saying that. It's because she's a female. You guys are singling her out. It is.

[Tyler]

Good night, Joe. Thanks for coming, bud.

[Jimmy]

Are you running the music?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Can I run it?

[Tyler]

I'm on it. What do you want? What do you want?

[Mike]

I mean, some of us got to drive two hours. Some of us got to drive two hours.

[Tyler]

You got a long? Yeah, I got a long.

[Mike]

You got to drive, too the. You want to sit here, listen to music all night? I like you guys, but I want to see you again till Monday.

[Tyler]

What song you want? It's true about Jen. Jen? Who are you?

[Jimmy]

I want Bulletproof Skin.

[Tyler]

Are you a bot? Are you a dude in disguise as a woman?

[Jimmy]

I want Bulletproof Skin by the Institute.

[Tyler]

Hey, Joe, don't worry about it, bro. Go get some. Go get some. Go get some sleep.

[Mike]

Hey, we read a super chat. We talked about it. Come back Monday, 10am we're taking text calls. Pigeons.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you guys need to come to the 10am Broadcast on Monday. That 10am Monday?

[Mike]

Yep. Totally different format. I show my legs off.

[Jimmy]

Bulletproof Skin.

[Mike]

You got about one more song.

[Tyler]

Yeah, one more after this.

[Mike]

Talked to Jimmy a couple days ago. Love what y' all are doing. Never had a dad in my life. Did the college route say what? Horrible system. We have decided to go in the army. Ship out.

[Jimmy]

January 11 Bravo.

[Mike]

That's.

[Jimmy]

That's one of the. That's one of the. The excellent dudes that was like, hey, I want to go in the infantry, and you can. You were the one that was talking to me like, hey, man, you can see Reka's message. Cool. In the infantry.

[Tyler]

Oh, we should be Paul Miller for Halloween. No, you can wear the bird.

[Mike]

No, no.

[Jimmy]

Hey, hey. Should we get. Should we wear man dresses one day? Yeah.

[Mike]

So you want to wear dresses?

[Tyler]

No, man. Dresses like We. We fought them later on. After you quit the army?

[Mike]

Yeah, I was busy, like, doing cool in the marshalls, and now you guys are laying around in holes.

[Tyler]

You were doing cool in the Marshalls when I was starting this podcast.

[Mike]

Way before that I joined the Marshall. I was the Marshall. I was the u. S. Marshall.

[Jimmy]

You know, there's a football game where we're wearing man dresses.

[Mike]

49Ers and rams are tied.

[Jimmy]

Are they really?

[Mike]

Yeah. 2020.

[Tyler]

You kid me.

[Jimmy]

Lily wants to know. Jen moxie. Is she Mike's wife? If so, I've pissed her off, and I didn't.

[Mike]

No, that's not my. My wife just texted me, good night, honey. I love you.

[Jimmy]

It's not. I give zero.

[Mike]

No, it's not my wife.

[Tyler]

It's not my wife.

[Jimmy]

No, you're. You're.

[Mike]

I. Yeah. I wasn't a man dressed as OP4. We cheated, too. We cheated you guys bad.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Well, I mean, OP4 always.

[Mike]

We cheated.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Well, here's what you guys didn't do. You guys were miserable away from home, and you threw your guns around. Miserable. Laid them down. We treated our guns like gold. We zeroed that miles was. We zeroed that miles gear, and we had red dots and we never threw our guns down. We laid them down. We tested them. We made sure they're accurate. That was the difference. You guys were shooting us more, but your guns weren't zero.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, so.

[Mike]

Are you a drummer? I mean, you look like a drummer from Florida.

[Tyler]

From Florida. Florida drummer came from Florida.

[Mike]

Florida drummer.

[Tyler]

All right, we got one more song, guys. What the hell is the atx?

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Jimmy]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

Bring back an all Irish police force. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I mean, Ireland.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I mean, as a. As an Irish family. Yes.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, Austin, Texas. I'm retarded. Thank you, Eduardo.

[Mike]

Michael Dow was Irish.

[Tyler]

Michael Dowd was also a criminal.

[Mike]

I met him, dude. I'll never forget the first time I met him. I was hammered, dude. Oh, you put him in the car.

[Tyler]

And you take the car to get out of there. That's what you're now.

[Mike]

Yeah, he mg. He had a pink shirt on, a pink suit jacket on over top of the.

[Jimmy]

We're not gonna talk about Nikki.

[Tyler]

Nikki don't know yet. Yeah, we'll see.

[Mike]

We'll see. Irish police force definitely look weird when I see those videos of me yelling.

[Tyler]

I love it, dude.

[Mike]

When I get myself clipped and I'm like, suck my dick.

[Tyler]

I'm like, oh, God.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it Joe it is fun, right? Joe? Joe's like, okay, okay. I can't walk away until you guys close it all out. It's too much fun. We are having fun. I mean, like I'm having a lot of fun.

[Mike]

There was people pointing out the, the viewers and lack. I used to be there. It's a different show. It's a different, it's a different setup. Everything's different. You're not going to maintain the same crowd. It is what it is. It's still even.

[Tyler]

Even people respectfully leaving, they're like, hey, I was just here for the special forces stuff. This isn't my thing. Thing that happens. But we, we compared to the other day, your favorite Italian shop, your Italian place you took your wife to every Friday night, closes down and becomes a Greek restaurant. You're like, hey, that's awesome. I don't want to eat Greek, I want to eat Italian.

[Mike]

But if it stays Italian and the cook changes and the food doesn't change, you still go. So it's like if we, we lost.

[Tyler]

Producers but it still had the same host, it wouldn't matter.

[Mike]

Yeah. And there. And, and I just laughed that there were four, five, six week stretches where I was here by myself with you or somebody else and it was fine. But it is.

[Tyler]

And to be honest with you, I don't want them here. There's nothing we can offer them. They. Nothing. There's nothing they offer us beta males here to suck soft dick all night long. Like it just.

[Jimmy]

Look, there's, there's plenty of Jimmy's taking.

[Mike]

Like they love Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, there's plenty of channels out there that could talk to you about soft guys.

[Mike]

I can't hear him if.

[Jimmy]

Can you not hear me?

[Mike]

I don't have to.

[Jimmy]

Oh yeah, you don't have your on. There's plenty of guys out there. There's plenty of channels out there that can talk to you about special operations if you. But, but here's the thing, guys, all of you. I want to hear about Delta Force.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

If you want to hear about multi team, multi room, no fail. President directed missions. Yeah, they're a place for you. But if you just want to hear about cool ass dudes doing cool ass gunfights.

[Mike]

Have you ever seen a chick squirt a crack pipe out of her snapper?

[Tyler]

What?

[Mike]

I got stories like that. It's cop stories, man. Or you ever seen a girl stick a meth pipe up her ass?

[Jimmy]

I, I've never seen that.

[Mike]

But I have.

[Jimmy]

I've been to Tijuana.

[Mike]

I've seen it come out too. You saw the shows?

[Jimmy]

Tijuana.

[Mike]

Jen's gonna call in.

[Tyler]

No, no, she's not. But Lily's challenging Jen to call in.

[Mike]

Call in Monday because it may be not a girl.

[Tyler]

We'll see.

[Mike]

Okay, you got to check between the.

[Tyler]

Feathers saying, put your mouth money where your mouth is. Jen.

[Jimmy]

Lily. Lily. Lily is as hard of a fighter as Joe is.

[Mike]

I mean, this is like song five.

[Jimmy]

Oh, dude. Song.

[Mike]

Last song.

[Jimmy]

No. Can we, can we do song two? Can we do Blur?

[Tyler]

I don't know if I have blur.

[Jimmy]

You don't have blur. Just like my little daughter's favorite song. She's like, this is so awesome.

[Mike]

We appreciate it, Joe.

[Jimmy]

Like, if you want to talk about hits getting done on IED makers at 2 o' clock in the morning, when we went into their house and didn't even know we were there, we had to wake them up off the roof of their house.

[Mike]

And then Rob o' Neill showed up and shot everybody.

[Jimmy]

And then Rob o' Neill showed up and shot everybody.

[Mike]

All right, guys, we appreciate it. We're gonna sign off.

[Jimmy]

Game on.

[Mike]

Join the patreon. Don't forget we interact in there. And Monday, 10am we are there. Monday, we're here. Monday, 10am all three of us with guests. You can call in, you can text in. That is the anti hero broadcast.

[Tyler]

Like the wizard of Oz.

[Mike]

Behind the scenes, the underpaid and over caffeinated because it's cheaper than therapy. We'll see you Monday at 10:00am.