Squadcast (10/16/2025) Is Tyler A CRIMINAL??

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: Squadcast (10/16/2025) – "Is Tyler A CRIMINAL??"

Release Date: October 17, 2025

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Overview:

This Squadcast episode opens with the show’s recent turbulence—allegations, podcast drama, and social media firestorms. The core focus is on Tyler and the criminal allegations levied against him, the motives behind these accusations, and the fallout across their podcast community. The hosts clear the air with directness, irreverence, and characteristic “for the boys” humor before pivoting to their usual first responder and veteran banter, police video breakdowns, and guest appearances.

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Main Theme:

Addressing Allegations Against Tyler—Fact vs. Drama

The episode’s first hour is dedicated to candidly discussing the criminal allegations against Tyler, their origins, the media spin, the ex-wife’s role, and the behind-the-scenes reality. The hosts emphasize transparency, their commitment to community, and resisting "cancel culture" hysteria. After this, Squadcast returns to breaking down viral police/military content and connecting with their audience.

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Detailed Breakdown & Timestamps

I. Raw Beginnings: Allegations, Losses, and Explanations

• 00:04–01:24: Show opens on a somber, almost resigned note. "Well, this is it. Everybody won. The antihero podcast is down to just me..." (A).
  • [00:24] B: "Surprise, motherfucker. It's me."—B’s return signals it’s not over yet.

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II. The Truth About the Allegations

• 01:24–07:22:

  • Host B explains domestic violence allegations didn’t stick and the “ex-wife went another route... claim[ing] other things.”
  • D (Heather): "[Kendra] waited two years after divorce... No contact. She waits two years... why?"
  • A puts on his investigator hat, questioning why evidence supposedly found in a divorce context didn’t surface until years later:

    “I want everybody right now to give their wife their phone and let her find something of that nature... I will give you $10 million if your wife can wait two years to address the allegations..." [05:12]

  • The hosts call out the convenient timing and lack of criminal findings:

    “Probable cause was not established that Mr. Hoover violated this or any other criminal law within X County.” —B [03:08]

• The team addresses audience skepticism:

  • D: “If you had somebody trying to ruin your life... Would you just sit back and be okay with that?” [05:49]
  • B: "I thought the DV allegations were hilarious—in the sense that how old they were. There was no specifics, no witnesses..." [06:26]

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III. Who’s Behind It and Why?

• 07:22–14:31:
  • Deep dive into who's allegedly targeting Tyler—ex-wife Kendra, her (allegedly problematic) friend, a former sergeant “Kyle”, and their connections.
  • D: “She got with her best friend who is a sexual predator... He was her sergeant, okay, at Volusia.” [08:21]
  • A: “Which cop do you believe? The cop that reported it, the cop that’s dealing with it... Like, there’s so many. Everybody involved is a cop. You’re the only one that faces this, like, in public...” [09:42]
  • Discussion about men and women in policing, weaponization of personal relationships and legal claims, and the toxicity of social media callouts.

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IV. Community Themes: Loyalty, Reputation, and Podcast Purpose

• 24:08–26:28:
  • A: “...I realized Tyler was a solid, good dude. Hard worker... if I thought he was a piece of shit, I'd go home and collect my two pensions… But I choose to sit here, and that's why I do this.” [23:44]
  • B: Their audience may have shifted after losing “Brent” and the Special Forces crowd, but "this is a show for the boys... for the first responder community and all of the veteran community." [24:26]

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V. The Future for the Squadcast and Community

• 26:03–29:09:
  • Briefly touch on plans for new formats ("Night Shift" and more), their continued commitment to the audience, and distancing themselves from drama.
  • A: "We're expanding. We're not condensing. There's no—we're not going anywhere. We're not leaving. I ain't fucking leaving." [50:22]

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VI. Social Media Slander, Drama, and Police/Military Cultural Commentary

• 29:10–34:38:
  • Discussion on public smearing by ex-podcast members and social media commentators, differences between reality and internet narratives.

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VII. Recurring Podcast Segments: Video Breakdowns & Guest Introductions

• 38:23–45:12:
  • The show shifts to viral police videos, break-downs, and debates about use of force, training, and policing culture.
  • Special guest Patrick O’Donnell, retired Milwaukee officer and host of "Cops and Writers," is introduced.
  • Comedic, sometimes irreverent discussion about old-school policing, "Instagram cops," and the changing face of departments.

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VIII. Inside-Baseball: First Responder & Military Shop Talk

• 61:13–62:29 & On:
  • Debates about modern and “old school” cop culture, de-escalation trends, professionalism vs. performative policing.
  • Notable wisdom:

    “The gift of gab. Nobody wants to fight… 80% of the time, you can talk your way through anything.” –F (Patrick) [62:02]

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IX. Hot Takes on Police Social Media, “Instagram Cops," and Recruiting Ads

• 73:46–79:52:
  • Panel debates the value (and cringe factor) of departments’ TikTok/social media usage.
  • A: “If they're posting those fucking stupid corny TikToks, you don't want to work there. You want the agency that are posting foot pursuits, dog bites, tasings, helicopter video of crime…” [74:58]

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X. Audience Q&A and War Stories

• 80:31 onward:
  • Analysis of recent “bad” tactical videos, including botched room entries, questionable use-of-force videos, and viral “cops gone wrong” claims (“piercing his son’s ear” arrest).
  • A: “Based on what you say, you can make that [body cam] look terrible. And all they're looking for is what? To get enough clicks…” [106:48]
  • C (Jimmy): “Plenty of slime balls wear the badge… But this situation right here is not one of them. And it calls into question the slime balls.” [106:45]

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XI. Military Segment: Command Sergeant Major Bass Joins

• 128:57 onward:
  • Warm, in-depth segment with Command Sergeant Major Bass, on military leadership, Ranger School, standards, and why enforcing them matters.
  • E (Bass): “Do what you’re told when you’re told to do it right… Be where you’re supposed to be, when you’re supposed to be there, and be in the right uniform.” [135:25]
  • Discussion on shifting standards, leadership challenges, and old stories from service days.

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XII. Notable Quotes & Moments

On Allegations and Ex-Wife’s Motives:

“It's crazy to me to think that a woman waited two years to bring that out… didn't confront said husband, didn't bring it up in a divorce... never brought it to your attention." –A [05:12]

On Loyalty and Staying Power:

“If I thought he was a piece of shit, I'd go home and collect my two pensions and never have to worry about working ever again. But I choose to sit here, and that's why I do this.” –A [23:44]

On the Podcast’s Purpose:

“This is a show for the boys. This is a show for the bros. This is a show for the first responder community and all of the veteran community. And it's brought to you by first responders and veterans.” –B [24:26]

On Internet Drama/Trolling:

“That entire platform is to watch our show, clip it and then re-release it on their show. They don't have any original material.” –A [30:14]

On Police Social Media Recruiting:

“If they're posting those fucking stupid corny TikToks, you don't want to work there. You want the agency that are posting foot pursuits, dog bites, tasings, helicopter video of crime…” –A [74:58]

Military Wisdom:

“Be where you’re supposed to be when you’re supposed to be there and be in the right uniform.” –E (Bass) [135:29]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:04–29:09: Podcast drama, criminal accusation breakdown, ex-wife’s motives, impact on podcast & community.
• 38:23–41:08: Switch to police video breakdowns and guest intros.
• 128:57–end: Command Sergeant Major Bass segment and closing remarks.

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Tone and Language

The tone is blunt, irreverent, and filled with “insider” references. Hosts are unfiltered, often switching between gallows humor, righteous anger, and camaraderie. The panel frequently interrupts, jokes, and talks over each other in ways reminiscent of firehouse or squad room banter.

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For New Listeners:

• This episode gives a transparent, sometimes messy view of podcasting when real-life accusations crash into public platforms.
• The first hour focuses on the accusation drama; the rest returns to "for the boys" content—critiquing viral policing, war stories, and responding directly to their fan base.
• Notably, the episode signposts to a forthcoming “Saturday Deep Dive” (on Unfiltered & Unfazed) for more outrageously detailed “receipts” and screen grabs about the allegations.

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Final Words

This episode delivers exactly as promised: “all truth,” no shying away from difficult subjects, and an unbreakable bond of loyalty despite public storms. The show’s future looks more diversified, with the Squadcast morphing into "Night Shift" and new streaming ambitions.
Memorable closing:

“We're expanding. We're not condensing… Our goal is to be streaming… every day.” [50:22]

If you want soap opera drama, look elsewhere. If you’re a veteran/first responder who likes firehouse-style banter and critical candor, this episode is your jam.

Transcript

[A]

Well, this is it. Everybody won. The antihero podcast is down to just me. I'm sure everybody's seen the news. They saw the thumbnail. I'm gonna address everything that's going on and try to keep this show alive best I can. So just me.

[B]

Surprise, motherfucker. It's me.

[C]

Sam here.

[B]

It's Thursday, and yes, for the first maybe hour or so, no more than an hour, we're going to talk about some of the things that's been going on, some of the things that have been alleged. We have my beautiful wife Heather here, who has been silenced for a long time about this. So what we're going to do is we're going to talk about some. Some basics, some generalizations. Then on her podcast on Saturday will be the entire timeline of everything, because there's a lot of details that people don't know, a lot of things that make you scratch your head and. But we'll go ahead and address that. Obviously, the. The domestic violence allegations didn't stick. So are we gonna talk about who it is tonight?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So the. So the ex wife decided to go another route and claim other things that I've done that the people have been like. She's essentially, she's working with people. We'll get into it on Saturday, but we.

[D]

See you, Dustin Miller, you're so cool.

[B]

Who's just a tough guy.

[E]

So.

[A]

He might be joking. I mean, this whole thing's a fucking joke. So, yeah, it's tough to.

[B]

But anyways, yeah, I mean, so essentially there was allegations against me and then they went nowhere. So there were allegations against me again, that people have been chomping at the bits waiting to post. And unfortunately, they're all allegations. And at the very end, which one page did post who hates our guts for some reason.

[C]

But.

[B]

But they did post the guy got fired. We're going to kick it off with this. They posted based on the totality of evidence and circumstances in this case, probable cause was not established that Mr. Hoover violated this or any other criminal law within X County. Right. So that is at the end of it. But you can accuse a ham sandwich.

[A]

Died a ham sandwich.

[B]

You can indict a ham sandwich, and it doesn't really matter.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

All right. Elephant in the room is nobody is talking about that. It's Kendra, his ex wife. Waited two years after divorce. Okay. Two years after they got divorced and then proceeded. They are no contact. They have not talked in this whole entire time. There's no text messages, no phone calls, no nothing. She waits Two years. She could have taken him to the cleaners on this divorce. When they got divorced in 2023, end.

[B]

Of 20, I think it was like January 2nd.

[D]

The finalization was January 2nd, 2024. It was filed in 2023. So why in God's green earth would you wait two years?

[A]

And here, here's my take.

[B]

Well, no, that the, the new, the new batch valuations came out.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Recently. But the first batch, they realized that seven years earlier was strategically. It was done and they, and they know what they did. And we'll get into it on Saturday. But the first allegations were seven years.

[A]

Ago of domestic violence.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yep. All Kendra's are crazy, but.

[A]

And from an investigator standpoint and from all men, all men out there, I want you to believe that if you read this document, that a woman went through her husband's phone and found what you guys saw and didn't confront said husband, didn't bring it up in a divorce, didn't bring it up for any money, didn't blackmail his career that he was already starting, you know, antihero sooner.

[C]

She just will address, we'll answer that.

[A]

She just let it slide. I want everybody right now to give their wife their phone and let her find something of that nature in your phone. I will give you $10 million if your wife. Wife can wait two years to address the allegations that she brought forward. So to me, I mean, there. It's crazy to me to think that a woman waited two years to bring that out. She didn't, she didn't say anything to you about it during the divorce or during. It didn't bring it up. Never brought it to your attention because you'd have known about it this whole time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You'd be gone. Damn, dude, that one thing's out there. I'm fucked if she like didn't say a word to you. It's very interesting to me that a woman could wait.

[D]

I mean, I see, you know, in the comments people are saying, what is all this drama? It's like, well, if your life was trying, if you had somebody trying to ruin your life, okay, single handedly and working with some crazy ass people that are stalking you on a daily. Okay, not weekly, daily basis, you know. Oh, you sound like high school girls. Would you just sit back and be okay with that? Would you just let that happen? They're ruining, they want to ruin your life, they want to ruin your business, they want to ruin your family, they want to ruin your friends. You're just gonna sit there and be like, well, I Just can't deal with this drama.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And I mean, we. I, I mean, I thought it was. I thought the DV allegations were hilarious, but hilarious in the sense that how old they were. There was no specifics, there was no witnesses. There was no. I wasn't. I, I to this day have not been investigated criminally about any of this because it's just so there's no proof. There's no nothing. There's. There's literally I could do right now on this phone what you guys saw and then go, he did this, right? So there's, there's just so. I've always thought it was hilarious, but it just got so out of control that we were like, well, let's, let's touch upon it. And then like I said, Saturday will drop the big probably like couple hour long episode. But, you know, we wanted to let everybody know, you know, kind of how ridiculous it is because like I said, it's. It's funny to me.

[D]

So. Okay, let me jump in because that's, that's what I do. So there's people that are confused in the comments. They don't know what's going on. Ex wife, Tyler's ex wife, Kendra, short hobbit, little crazy ass, decided two years after they got a divorce. She saw me on his YouTube, on his podcast and immediately started commenting. Oh, look at this. Dumb. Wait till the investigation comes. There's going to be an investigation soon. So with that being said, remember the reports that got released? 5, 1 buck 60. This is a little short fat, okay? So with that being said, she got her panties in a bunch and then she got with her best friend who is a sexual predator and is all over the Internet spreading these lies. He was her sergeant, okay, at Volusia. So let's just talk about that for a second.

[B]

I wasn't going to drop that yet.

[D]

But she worked for him, okay? So you're welcome for clarifying. I will clarify this for a very long time. Anybody who wants to know any, any other details, go ahead and hit me up. Because a lot of people, okay, in this world, they don't go and ask Tyler, hey, what happened? You know what you want to know what people do is they go talk to other people. They go talk to his ex wife.

[C]

Who.

[D]

What fucking man talks to another man's ex wife?

[C]

Talk to. Talk to my wife.

[E]

Sorry.

[C]

By. By the way. Got. Got.

[D]

Yes, it is from the same ex, everybody that this is all the same person. The dv, the other. I see all the golden shower comments. We're not Blind. Only golden shower he's getting is from my vagina. So, no, he is not getting anything from anybody. And my son is here, so obviously. Oh, Josh. Hey, Josh Daniels. What up? How you doing, homie?

[A]

Yeah, I. I like. I like it. I like it. It's funny. Is the reporting person. Is a.

[D]

The reporting person. Talk to her too, Josh.

[A]

Because, I mean, they're cops, though, so that. That means that you got to believe.

[D]

Though, she was a cop.

[E]

Which one do you believe?

[D]

She couldn't hack it.

[A]

Which cop do you believe? The cop that reported it. The cop that's dealing with it.

[D]

Right.

[A]

The cop that sexually harassed women. That's pushing it. Like, there's so many. Everybody involved is a cop. You're the only one that faces this, like, in public, though. Everybody else hides behind it, doesn't get out. But, yeah, yeah, yeah. So good, man. I was a drug dealer. I grew marijuana. I sold like I did.

[B]

All kinds. Mike was investigated by the dea.

[A]

FBI, too.

[B]

FBI, too.

[D]

Look, yeah, no, it's not that he's into Hobbit, so I don't know if that's what you're calling me, because you must be blind. But the. The thing is, is we all make mistakes, you know, I'm sure as far as having an ex that's ugly. It happens. It happens. It happens. But if that's the only thing he should be judged for, that's about it. That's about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm guilty of that.

[D]

He's guilty of having.

[A]

You're very guilty of being ugly, bitter.

[D]

As well, Nasty ex wife.

[B]

But like I said on. We're dropping it Saturday on Unfiltered, Unfazed, where we're going to go through the entire timeline of how all of this happened with the screenshots, with everything. The link between Kyle and Kendra. We don't know. I mean, I. I can't. It's all hearsay, their relationship. But I do know. What I do know is that they've been friends for 11 years, and they.

[A]

The allegations came after he was revising, and allegations came after he was denied entry into the culture.

[B]

We forgot that, too.

[A]

He was. He sat right here. Yeah, he showed up here, shook everybody's hand like a real coward, and then after, denied for being a sexual predator.

[B]

So, yeah, he wanted into counterculture. I mean, Heather was there when I was on the phone with him. He was. Was he begging?

[D]

I don't care. Who gives a about him? Like, all that doesn't matter. He's insane. If anybody can see the obsession and not think that this person is not well and something is wrong. I don't know what to tell you. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Why on God's green earth would you be like, this person is mentally sound. This person is mentally well. Okay.

[B]

Nobody is obsessed with us.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the 11 likes he gets on Kyle.

[D]

Hey, Kendra, can't wait for you guys to clip this.

[A]

11 likes he gets on every post and the only ones ever get engagement is when somebody slips and goes over there and.

[B]

Well, so he reposts all of our shit. That's all he does is repost. You know, and he reposts our shit. And then.

[A]

Very progressive of him.

[C]

Progressive communism.

[A]

Daytona Beach Progress. Daytona progress.

[B]

Jimmy's here, by the way. Guys. Yeah, I'm here. What's up, Jimmy?

[A]

No known controversy, no scandals.

[D]

I have no, no scandals.

[C]

I. I am.

[D]

I mean, at the end of the day, innocent bystander. Everybody's really. I mean, we're all innocent bystanders, but.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, but I. I mean, remember that Lily's been going at it the last few days because she's.

[D]

Oh, yeah, no, I know. And then people go, oh, the wives are white knighting in the comments. It's like, would you not do that too?

[A]

I just like, I'm not the. Yeah, usually it's me.

[B]

No, I'm always.

[C]

Yeah, no, I'm the baby face of the game.

[B]

Last year they. I was in the Rolling Stone magazine for. I mean, I. That was a year ago today. I was in the Rolling Stone being chastised the entire music industry. I guess. I mean, I'm. I'm kind of used to it, but, you know, I'd like to.

[D]

I'm. I. This is what I do. I interrupt Tyler. So let's just.

[B]

It's okay.

[D]

Clear that up. I have severe ADHD and I just. I can't control it. But that's a good question. That's a great question. Why did Kyle and Kendra wait till now? Excellent question. The only thought is that there's. As far as Kyle goes, who knows? You know, nobody can explain a sociopath and a mentally ill person and why they do things. There's no logic. But as far as Kendra goes. She saw me on his podcast and that set her off. She knew we were married. She knew he had moved on. She has moved on. She is in a relationship and had just had a baby, I think about six months ago. So instead of taking care of her baby, she's worried about making sure she can try to ruin Tyler's life in any way possible. Yes. So she is friends with Kyle. You know, it'll all come out. That's what I'm saying. You guys, just. I. I understand that you wanted answers, and I wanted to give them so bad, but I couldn't. And Tyler couldn't, and he still can't.

[B]

I'm technically not supposed to, but I can't.

[D]

I can. I can. So please feel free. But yeah. So they're friends. There's screenshots of her messaging him, all this stuff, laughing about it, last I checked. Coming from somebody who, you know, understands that type of situation.

[B]

Domestic violence.

[D]

Yeah. In my past, you. You don't laugh about it. You don't spread it around the Internet. You don't mock it. You don't, you know, send messages to people laughing and saying, haha, I'm gonna do this. That's not how that works. Doesn't happen.

[C]

And anybody that's been a police officer, a fireman or an infantryman or anybody in the military has either had it happen to them or knows a buddy that was like, oh, God, here we go. Like, this is it. And it's so common because, you know, you know, Kendra and I were. Or not Kendra, I'm sorry, Heather and I were talking outside, and she's like, you know, because cops and, you know, military people are held to this higher standard within society, society, it becomes the weapon to drag them through the mud on sexual assault or, you know, domestic violence or anything like that.

[A]

And.

[C]

And it really can ruin things. And here we are.

[D]

Yeah, we'll go through more on Saturday in detail, because I. Like I said, I can do that. So I know everybody's been waiting for this, and oh my God, what are all these allegations? And people are, you know, just listening to one side, essentially, which we understand. One side. You know, if you have one side, that's all you're gonna hear. So we're. We're not gonna play that game anymore. We're gonna give both sides. There's really only one side, is that she's a liar. And that's been submitted. There's proof of that. And that's all been submitted. Like, like he said, anybody can make a report. Anybody can just say anything. And what's actually the only, I would say, positive side of this is it's brought to light a really big problem in the law enforcement and veteran community, which is women doing this. There's women that have alleged, you know, sexual assault, child abuse, abuse of a partner. And they know that it's going to ruin their career. They know that it's going to ruin their name and they know that, you know, they're held to a higher standard. So it's very common and we've seen a lot of comments of people going, dude, my ex wife did that to me. Dude, my ex girlfriend did that to me. It ruined my life for like two years. And it's like, well, unless you get ahead of it and you can tell people, hey, this didn't happen, it's unfortunate that they don't get held accountable for that. These women need to be held accountable for that because there's true victims out there and the true victims do not get the validity that they deserve because people do this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the link, like I said, I can't express enough that somebody brought it up. I think it was Jerry. That or I don't know who it was. Why wait until now? And that's the biggest question that everybody has wondered, including myself. I've came up with my own. The fact that Kyle, you know, we'll get into it more because I was denied entry into counterculture than the media network because it was like a soft letdown. Like, it was like, hey, man, you. You're all over the news for being a sexual predator. Like, all over the news. We can't have that. Right. And so that mixed up with the same time. My ex wife saw that Heather. Because my ex wife Kendra also has a failed podcast that she quit just like everything else and saw that Heather was on her own podcast. Those. Those two things collided. And by golly, Kyle was her old supervisor on the road. Her old sergeant.

[D]

Kyle's stuff was on the news.

[B]

Yeah, Kyle stuff is on the news. Sorry, I'm not reading comments, but. So that perfect storm is why this all happened. Kind of like, hey, go there and say this and then I'll expose it. So, I mean, like I said, the DV stuff didn't stick. They had to switch gears. And you know, it's, it's on the Cincinnati.

[C]

Can I, Can I ask a question? So the. When you first started talking about it, when it first started coming out, you know, you found out about some of this because you were trying to do off duty work, correct?

[B]

What do you mean? Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, essentially, yeah, I, I resigned. Let me get to it. Yeah, So I, I was, I've resigned because I want. We're doing media full time now.

[D]

Make it clear. You resigned before.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

So everybody.

[C]

That's what I was trying to.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Retired early, quit resigned it does. It doesn't matter. Me and Mike own a couple businesses together, so we were like, dude, we need to focus on this. And I retired early. I was like, hell, yeah. I was going on vacation in July. You can go back and look at the Instagram. I just got into the mountains, and we were on a lake. We were having a good time. And then I find out, hey, you were under investigation for domestic violence. And I was like, okay, well, that doesn't. I don't care. Like, why are you investigating? I don't work there anymore. And they're like, well, technically, it came in when you were still an employee here, so now we have to investigate it as you are an employee here.

[D]

And I can say this. He can't. But they neglected to inform him in a timely manner. But that's a whole other issue. But all the rumors of. He resigned because of this. No, there's timestamps. So did not resign because of this. What happened was, is he had been talking. He'd been wanting to do this for, like, a year. What happened was he said on his podcast, I'm probably gonna do it soon. So little hobbit got her in her car and ran as fast as she could to the agency to be like, shit, I better do this now before he leaves.

[C]

That's. That's. That's the smoking gun.

[D]

So people are going, why now? Why now? And maybe she was like, knew that. Here's the thing, okay? People talk, okay? And people that think that they can trust people. Who knows? Maybe you can't, because we get a lot of phone calls, we get a lot of screenshots. We get a lot of stuff on a regular basis. And we've heard that she's now going, I didn't mean it to go this far. Who says I didn't mean it to go this far? Yeah, okay, you didn't mean it to go this far, Kendra. Yes, you did. And now you're scared because the heat's going to come on you because you wanted to hide in the background and have Kyle do it and have all these other people spread it around. And you're just sitting there like a quiet little puppy dog, but you're now going to be held accountable.

[B]

Let me. And let me put in here. Somebody asked. Somebody said, do you get a union lawyer? Yeah, I was provided a lawyer, but the lawyer was like, hey, listen, if anybody reaches out to you, don't say. And I was like, well, because you.

[A]

Didn'T work there anymore.

[B]

Yeah, I was like, I can't not Say anything like these people. I. I knew exactly what Kyle was doing when all this started. I was like, it. Yes. When you read a police report and it says so and so, declined to give statements, said, talk to his lawyer, like, oh, that's smart. And then. But when you read something that's out in the public about accusations, they're like, oh, that's suspicious. Right. So I told the lawyer. I was like, I don't want to just say that. I didn't want to hear that.

[A]

You don't want to hear it.

[D]

I do.

[B]

I don't want to. I don't want to just say that. Talk to my lawyer. So I said I gave him a motive and that was it, mind you. Nothing. Also, the lawyer, I didn't need him because nothing, nothing was criminal. There was no. I was never contacted by anything. I had to go wrap up something that'll be coming out probably in about a month where I told my whole side of the story. That was the admin investigation. Right. An admin. Because again, they had to treat it like, I still work there because the DV came in before I had left. I just didn't know. So they had to treat it. So I went in for an admin hearing. They told me, you don't have to go. It's the only thing they could do in an admin hearing is if you still work there and you refuse to go, they could fire you. But I didn't work there anymore. So they were like, nah, you don't have to go. And I went anyways. I went with everything I gave all. And they were like, oh, interesting. We didn't know any of this.

[D]

Yeah. Because usually when people are lying, they. They don't go. They don't go. They just say it, I don't work there anymore. Whatever. I'm not gonna go. He went, go ahead, Mike.

[E]

No, no.

[D]

I want to hear what.

[A]

Mike, I don't know if you do it. Well, first of all, I saw somebody. How do we meet? We met in a SWAT red dot class.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I came out from behind Copville in December of last year. My first coming out party. Can we say that?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My coming out party was on Anti Hero. And I will say I have no reason to be sitting next to this man for any other reason than friendship, loyalty and support. I didn't pack my stuff up and leave when this got tough. I packed my stuff up, brought it here, and sat down next to him. And I'll continue to sit down next to him. I didn't walk away. I Didn't choose to go do something else based on just about six or eight months of friendship. I realized Tyler was a solid, good dude. Hard worker, does all the background reels, management, everything in this company. And I saw. I didn't need this. I don't need. I can leave right now. I don't need this. I wanted to do this one because, like, being on camera talking shit and people talking shit about me, the faggot in the red hat. But two is I've only. I've only met a few people like Tyler that are genuine, down to earth, like, solid, loyal dudes, and that's why I'm here. And unfortunately, people get up and leave when times are tough. And people come sit down when times are tough. So I chose to come sit down. I get thrown in the news. I got Nikki MGTV clipping me. I got Rob o' Neill coming after me. I got people throwing my eyes in my face. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I'm here, provide some entertainment, some jokes, some memes, some stuff. And I'm loyal to that dude. And if I thought he was a piece of shit, I'd go home and collect my two pensions and never have to worry about working ever again. But I choose to sit here, and that's why I do this. And I'm not packing my stuff up and leaving. I'm staying.

[D]

Well, that's a. That's a man of integrity. That's a man of loyalty. And, you know, I can't say enough about. But all the people in this room. Yeah.

[A]

Jimmy's come along, been a great addition.

[B]

And. And the people. A lot of people. Here's the thing. It's like a lot of people stuck around this podcast.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

The ones that didn't are literally. I'm not gonna talk them. I know this is a serious segment. We're gonna get on to the actual squad or squad cast portion of it. We got some fun news. But when. When. When Brent left, a lot of people left. But they were people that there. They were there to hear Special Forces stories. Right. That's not the origin of this podcast. Brent said that in the Patreon. Brent said that to me. Brent said that to a lot of people. It. I. And I don't know. I've never really talked about what it turned into. And maybe one day down the road we'll talk about that. But it. When Brent left, he took people that were here to only see Special Forces stuff. And I've said it before, that's awesome, man. If that's all you were tuning in for, it sucks to lose you. But this is a show for the boys. This is a show for the bros. This is a show for the first responder community and all of the veteran community. And it's brought to you by first responders and veterans. We're all veterans. We're all 11 Bang Bangs. We're all, you know, Jimmy hates the cops, but me and Michael cops.

[A]

So, you know, it's a tough spot because you sit down as a Delta Force operator and just say that and start talking and you can talk about anything. And people, people inherently don't like cops. So if I sit down and go, I'm a cop and I did this and I did that, it's hard to resonate because there's, there's just a difference. But the bottom line, I think this is one of the most important things I saw in the comments is it's 8:35. It's time to move on. You've addressed it. I think you addressed it well. The longer we sit here and entertain, it's. The show's here. This Thursdays are for the boys. Maybe we got some competition coming. I don't know.

[B]

Maybe, maybe, maybe we got competition duty.

[A]

Duty to loyalty. I don't know. But maybe we do, maybe we don't. But, but we have big things coming in. Counterculture and anti hero. I suspect soon this is gonna be a four day a week live broadcast.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

Every day. And we're here to provide entertainment. We have some experience. And that's, that's that, man. It's. We're on. We got guests tonight. We got people to talk.

[C]

Yeah, we got, we got some pretty. So high powered guests tonight.

[A]

We got some good guests and I think that's what we're here for. And there's, there's soap operas on every day if you want drama.

[B]

Yeah. And we'll end it with this. We didn't want to do this. I didn't want to do.

[A]

It was tough. It was a tough decision.

[B]

Yeah, we, we. Oh my God. And it's one of those things like, oh, he's ignoring it. When we call out Kyle for being sexual predator and we send. We're like, hey, dude, what do you have to say about this? He glosses over it, doesn't talk about it. Same thing with the other homeboy that got fired for Columbus pd. We're gonna get into that too. But again, they don't want to talk about how they were terminated for what they did. And they were. And it was brought to my attention like, hey, man, you. You might want to just talk about it real quick. And, And I will talk about it. You can D me. DM me. Patreon more active on Patreon. Mike's more active on Patreon. But I, I catch Instagram messages here and there and I'll talk to you about it, dude, I don't care. But I don't want to waste everybody's fucking time dealing with drama and bullshit. You know, there. I can count on one hand how many people are out there actively wanting our downfall. And I think there was one of them in the chats earlier.

[D]

So it's, it's important to note and interesting to note that the, I mean, the investigating agency is tracking everyone that's posting this.

[B]

Yeah, they talk to the captain today.

[D]

Said they are tracking everyone posting. YouTube's posting. They're tracking, you know, what's being posted, what seems like it hasn't been released yet. And how do they have this information? So it's like, just be aware of that. It's all being tracked. It's. It's not being ignored. We're not ignoring it. They're not ignoring it.

[C]

So, you know, and, you know, the, the biggest one that I get, and I get this in the comments, I get this in the DMS is, you know, you guys are, you guys started out as a podcast about drama. Now it landed at your doorstep.

[B]

Well, right, yeah, right.

[C]

And, and, and I mean, dude, it.

[B]

Didn'T start as drama.

[C]

It didn't start as drama.

[B]

It started as a voice for the veteran and the first responder community.

[D]

And that's what it is.

[A]

Again, ended up with drama.

[B]

Ended up.

[A]

We can change that drama.

[B]

We are going to change that.

[A]

Specific people that were called out, that brought a lot of drama to the show. Like big names were called out. And now we're trying to come from that type of behavior.

[B]

And here's one of the things, too, that was brought to my attention by a lot of people is that it's. It was. And it wasn't my show and my show and Tyler wasn't the star of the show. Until it's time for answers, then it's Tyler show.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

I mean, you could look at it however you want. I didn't say shit during a lot.

[A]

Of those in two months. That's all I got to say.

[C]

And that was where, you know, the first thing I dropped was like, hey, man, you know, none of us said anything bad about you, Rob.

[B]

Not.

[C]

I wasn't in Delta Force. I wasn't in a tier one unit and I wasn't on that fucking mission. I didn't say anything bad about you. So why is it now all of a sudden you're coming at the conventional guys? There's another guy, there's other guys you can go talk to. We ain't them. I don't care.

[D]

D. I don't think. I don't think they're tracking.

[A]

I want to go off the rails and y' all are the only people in the. No, you're the only. Only because of you I haven't gone off the rails. But there's a lot more to this story. There's a lot more to the anti hero story. There's a lot of things that I would like to say that one day I'm going to cuz if we will. If I have to buy half the company, I'll be able to say it.

[B]

How about that?

[D]

Yeah, but I don't think they're praying on the Internet or YouTube or anything like that. What they're doing is to trying tracking the clear intent of slander, defamation and malice. That's the thing is this is an obsession. This has gone to another level of just informative or like there is malicious. Malicious.

[B]

There's shows.

[A]

That entire platform is to watch our show, clip it and then re release it on their show. They don't have any original material. They're literally copy and pasting your show and then posting it and cutting it up. And that's their entire platform for. With a hundred thousand followers. Some YouTube money navy guys like whatever, dude.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean just remember that if it's a video, it's slander. If it's in print, it's libel.

[A]

So how about it is what it is?

[C]

I mean and. And we're on to Cincinnati, dude.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

We're moving the ball down.

[A]

We got guests.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do got guests.

[B]

Let's do it. So you want to. You're gonna Heather again. Unfiltered and unfazed podcast on Saturday on the counterculture network will be a more deep dive into. Into.

[D]

Yeah. Because this is. This is not what we want the night to be about. It was more just like addressing stuff.

[B]

Philly.

[A]

We got Philly show this week.

[D]

Yeah. There's big to worry about.

[A]

We got guests from Milwaukee police department.

[B]

We got Sergeant Majors Command Sergeant Major from the 18th Airborne Corps is going to be here tonight.

[C]

Sar Bass, he was my first arm.

[D]

So yeah. The unfiltered on phase podcast will cover more detail.

[A]

You guys Got to play some light music.

[C]

Can we play some Kenny G?

[A]

Put some candles on.

[D]

Should we do it live?

[A]

It.

[C]

We'll do it live.

[D]

I love people asking questions. I love to answer all questions.

[B]

Oh yeah, this is a lot of tech stuff. Maybe like.

[A]

Well, maybe the guy. The guy. The guy who's done all the work for two years and has to clip in everything. He knows how much.

[B]

It's just as much work to do as a pre recorded one. With all the post editing and stuff, it's way easier to do the live. The live is just kind of tricky to set up. Bradley, can we do a live one? My only day off this Saturday.

[A]

We're gone.

[B]

Oh, we're gone.

[C]

I can't do it. I can't do next Saturday either.

[A]

What about tomorrow?

[B]

Any Saturday ever? No. I mean, yeah, well, it'll be. It'll be up Saturday.

[D]

So, yeah, we'll move on, but we'll. We'll address more and answer. I'd love to answer, but hit me up. Hit me up.

[B]

So that being said, we're gonna move on to the second portion of the night. We're gonna put up a little broadcast, we'll start soon thing. Give us like 2 minutes to rearrange some stuff. And anybody that was here just for the drama. If you just joined and you want to re. Watch the drama, by all means go back, scroll back and watch. But that's it for the. For that bullshit. And we're moving on to the squad cast and good news about what the squad cast is going to turn into. So stay tuned and we'll be back. Right.

[C]

Can we, can we do the one of that. That room entry, please?

[A]

We got plenty of videos.

[B]

The problem is with that is that it's on Twitter, so we got to figure out how to open it up. On Twitter. Huh?

[A]

Which one?

[B]

The one where. Hey guys, we're back. Yeah, Jimmy had a guy that.

[C]

Yeah, it was on BJJ's page. Page.

[B]

It was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So the one where they. The. The ear piercing guy.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, not that one. I'm talking about the, the room entry that like where like, you know, they just did everything wrong and then a gunfight started.

[A]

That's. That's like 90 of the cop videos.

[B]

The one where the guy was laying on the bed.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no. It's. It's in the, it's in the group chat. I can, I'll find it and I can send it to introduce our guests. Yeah, let's do that first.

[B]

Yeah, so on the couch next to Jimmy. We've got the host of Cops and Writers, and he's got his book out. I can't reach his book. I was gonna.

[A]

Right here. Put on me.

[B]

There you go. Irish as they get. Patrick o'.

[C]

Donnell.

[F]

Guilty as charged.

[B]

So you're retired?

[F]

Out of the city of Milwaukee.

[B]

Milwaukee, yes. Got the patch right here. Yep. So he. I was just on this podcast, actually. When's that gonna get out?

[F]

Probably three weeks. Oh, yeah. I've got at least two months worth of stuff.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

In the hopper.

[B]

Yeah. Let's get into it, man. Hit that Instagram. Let's. Why? Let's break the ice. I brought my glasses. Got them back on. Now we're not so serious. Go down to the bottom. Let's just go from the bottom up. What's. What's that one? Ooh, now you know it's good. Okay, let's. Let's watch this one. Obviously, you got to mute the mic so there's no echo. You all right, Billy? You all right?

[E]

This match.

[A]

We're stopped on Willett Road.

[E]

That's got.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's. That would be. That would be Tyler beating the guy. Me ask him if he's all right, because Tyler would articulate that he was resisting. So that's what we had there.

[E]

So.

[B]

Yeah. So, okay, that video, from what I saw, I watched a couple times, most likely that dude was trying to strangle himself with the seat belt.

[A]

So we'll kill him instead.

[B]

So, no, they just beat the. Out of him.

[A]

Are we good with that one? That was bad by the cops.

[B]

All right, let me give my opinion.

[A]

Oh, here we go. Here comes the aggressive maga Opinion.

[B]

No, because there's two. There's two sides of this many sides. There's policy, and then there what looks bad.

[A]

What?

[B]

Okay, so if you were gonna kill yourself right now, do you not think I would punch you to get the weapon out of your hand, man?

[A]

Okay, Is that what you. I'm just saying we watched. We watched the same video. And you said he's punching him to stop him from killing.

[B]

Well, if he was strangling himself with the seat belt or the strap. Not the seatbelt, the restraints, these handcuffs.

[A]

Right? So you can just, like, reach in and, like, undo it, bro. Hey, Orange county, you investigated for all the wrong. You need to go back on all his body cam videos. I want to see him beating people with the ass. I want to see all the real allegations that were high. This is a front by Tyler. Tyler has concocted this whole story to get trail off. Cuz he was getting the trail off it that he was beating the out of people.

[B]

I don't know that guy. That guy was trying to kill himself and that cop gave him distractors to the face to distract him from killing himself.

[A]

What dist.

[E]

Bro, bro.

[A]

All right, I got maybe I'm packing up. I can't sit next to you.

[B]

All right, now you go with yours. I gave mine. Mike, the liberal here, let's see what he has to say.

[A]

That if you're. I've never met, I've never seen somebody try not to kill. How somebody kill themselves by killing them worse or attempting to kill them so.

[B]

He couldn't kill himself.

[A]

So next time you see a guy, next time you see a guy trying to hang himself, you just gonna shoot him in the head. Be like, no, I try to get you down.

[B]

Trying to get him down and he's kicking me away. I'm gonna punch him in the face to distract him from kicking me so I can get him down from the rope.

[C]

What is this, the wwe, bro?

[A]

I can't. I'm glad we never worked together. I'm glad we never worked.

[E]

Mike.

[B]

You were self proclaimed monster back in.

[A]

The day and I've never elbow struck somebody in a seat belt in a car with handcuffs on.

[B]

I've never done it either.

[A]

But you would.

[B]

There's a lot of cops out there that saw that and got very frustrated with that guy. And everybody would say, I would never do that. But we've all been in the red and when a guy is going to kill himself in your back seat, you got to distract him from doing so.

[A]

Distract him, Knock him unconscious with elbow strikes so he doesn't kill himself.

[C]

This is when you deploy the asp. No, no, no, not even a bump out of that.

[A]

Come on, the ass would have been a better option than that. Yeah, yeah, hitting him with the ass, you could like reach the asp. You could have, you could have.

[B]

Yeah. Went in and, and, and you know, he's had.

[A]

Did I mention he was handcuffed? Oh, yeah, you could like cut the seat belt with a knife. Like you can't get the knife. He's, he's land.

[B]

I don't know, maybe he didn't have a knife.

[A]

Yeah, Patrick definitely had an elbow. All right, you're old school cop.

[B]

He started policing when Milwaukee 95. Milwaukee 95.

[C]

Yes, that's 95 is old school now.

[A]

Joe Clark, right? What's that guy's name?

[F]

Oh, Sheriff Clark.

[A]

Sheriff Clark.

[F]

That was the. He started with the city Of Milwaukee. Then he ran for sheriff and he won.

[A]

Talk about him real quick. Was he a good dude?

[F]

You know, I never worked for him directly.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

The guys that he worked when he became the sheriff, they loved him because he was never there.

[A]

Because he on Fox news all the time. Correct.

[F]

So who doesn't like the boss not being at work?

[A]

Yeah. Then you can elbow strike the out of people. The only thing there's nobody there to. Yeah, the cowboy hat on the cowboy hat.

[F]

And then Jimmy hates them.

[A]

He hates cops.

[F]

All of a sudden. If you looked at his uniform, every time he came on camera, there was more bling where said he's got more bling on him than a Colombian general. Where did all this come from? None of it was authorized. He like started putting stars and pins.

[B]

Just straight to Joe.

[A]

It's right away like what happens to these guys when they. With the power that goes to their head. Because you got your Florida sheriffs like Grady Judd, Wayne Ivey, they get on TV making these stupid videos and acting tough. And then when you talk to anybody who works for them, they can't stand them. Well, now I can imagine, like this guy's wearing all this stuff and the guys are like, was it.

[C]

Wasn't he the one that like he had like a global war on terror campaign medal? And they were like, oh, no, that. That was actually just one that the department uses for something else. Because it's a second.

[F]

I would not doubt it that he did something like.

[A]

He had an easy. He had an easy. He was a conservative black dude. So he wears a cowboy hat. He gets on the news. I mean, look, it's like easy.

[B]

I mean, so is he like. Was he trying to like copy Mark Lamb? Was he before Mark Lamb?

[F]

Hey, I will.

[A]

They were probably a little before. But again, conservative black sheriff.

[F]

I will give the devil his due. He did back his deputies and a couple of different kind of iffy uses of force or optics that didn't look so great. They had a felony traffic stop on the freeway and you have a sheriff's deputy, pretty big dude. And the guy is getting squirrely on the ground. He had a shotgun in his hand and he put his boot on his shoulder blade. Not on his neck, but on his shoulder blade. Well, the community went a little bananas. And Clark is like, no, he did everything right. I support him 100%.

[C]

I love it.

[F]

So I will. You know what?

[C]

He.

[F]

He has this Persona. He calls himself the America's sheriff. He's self appointed.

[B]

That's a bold statement right there.

[F]

Yes, he Appointed himself that.

[A]

But you have the American sheriff, which Mark Lamb.

[B]

Mark Lamb, yeah.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

And I remember seeing him on TV for the first time. I'm like, dude, I wish that guy was my chief.

[A]

Little known my shirt Fact I in 20 right before cancel culture hit in when not before on patrol live. There was live live PD and then live PD wanted they started a second show. I actually was flown to New York A and E and I did. I did two. I did two in in studio shows at Mark Lamb. I became very good friends with them and I have. I talked to him still and he came down with President Trump when in between Trump's terms went down to Fort Lauderdale, ma'.

[C]

Am.

[A]

He's great dude. I know Dom Tom gets on him sometimes for the social media, but I talked to a lot of people. I know Mark Lamb personally. He seemed to be picking up on antihero. He's like a lot of our stuff and yeah, great dude. We maybe try to get him on but.

[B]

Oh, they got super chats.

[A]

Jimmy's a boss now.

[C]

Hey man, I'm, I'm over here.

[F]

Just, just.

[B]

Yeah, let's hit up to two. There's two. There's one from before. Before we ended the drama fest. What's it say?

[C]

So it's from single wide. Steve, $20. Any chance of getting Code of the Fluff on? If so, Jimmy would probably need a filter for that in potty mouth.

[B]

What's who's coded fluff?

[C]

I'll look into it.

[B]

Look into it. Yeah. While we read the next one.

[C]

Next one's from Jefferson Newbie with $20. So my girl was cooking dinner and I asked to help. She said no and go watch my little hero show. I said, the only thing little is your cooking ability. So I'm eating crackers in the garage, smiling.

[B]

Don't come at my boys, man. And that's an old school listener right there. Every squad cast, he's got a story. I hope to God there aren't true.

[A]

They're not true.

[B]

They got. Are they true.

[A]

There's a lot of stories that are true.

[E]

So.

[A]

So he didn't pack up and leave. He stayed.

[C]

Yeah. Code of the Fluff is a therapy dog for looks like law enforcement. It's got a lot of pictures with law enforcement and first responders and nurses. And he won an award for winning award winning non profit by the FBI.

[A]

Huh.

[B]

You seem generally confused over there like as to how this would work out. Maybe we put coda on the chair and then.

[C]

Yeah, I mean he's got pictures of him doing podcasts. So, I mean, he's. He got pictures of him in a. A Power Wheels with a Wawa coffee. I mean, who the hell knows? I think it looks like AI. Coffee with Koda looks like AI.

[A]

It probably is, now that I think about it. I don't even have to look. I'm sure it's AI.

[B]

I'm sure Mike would love a dog. Guess.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, there's dogs right next door.

[C]

Yeah, I got a dog.

[A]

We know. We got a cat's name.

[C]

Gus. Gus.

[A]

Gus. Gus Orange.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So squad cast is changing a little bit.

[E]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, no way.

[B]

We've kind of been hinting about it a little bit. Sets almost done being built. The squad cast will be no more. Except the boys will be still streaming live on Thursdays.

[A]

We don't know.

[B]

Yeah, we don't know.

[A]

We got to see.

[B]

We gotta be smart with our battle battle strategy. But.

[A]

But it's moving to counterculture.

[B]

Yes, it will be moving to counter culture. Be co streamed with Anti Hero for a little bit. But it's called the Night Shift. Hey, Bradley, can you pull that image up?

[C]

I think it's this one. Yep.

[B]

The Night Shift. For all you zombies out there on the graveyard shift or the boys just chilling, kicking back with a drink. This one's for you, right? Yeah, that was a good one. Made that up on the spot.

[A]

That was good.

[B]

But the Night Shift.

[A]

So in. In. We're expanding. We're not condensing.

[E]

There's no.

[A]

We're not going anywhere. We're not leaving. I ain't fucking leaving.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our goal is to, at some point. Hopefully the bright line stops in my neighborhood one day. Our goal is at some point to be streaming on Anti Hero. Broadcast.

[C]

Anti.

[B]

Our broadcast is going nowhere.

[A]

No, the broadcast, yes. Monday. Our goal is to be on your TV or your. Your computer every day. And then we're pushing the Night Shift.

[B]

To counterculture Night Shift. It's just, it's. The Anti Hero squad cast was good while it lasts, man. And I'm telling you, trying to do something that's. It's. It's. What do you call that? It's not the same anymore. You guys all being here is fun as hell, but we're just kind of like limited on what we do. And it's not, you know, what it was. And we still want to bring. And we don't want to dilute the broadcast because the broadcast is done here with this desk on these cameras. And we're like, let's have a more relaxed environment for the squadcast and our.

[A]

And our goal is to be even more interactive with the people watching. Yeah, it's not about us. We're here to deliver some to videos, some new. We want to bring you guys on the show live, live feed. Being able to have a live feed of guests, be able to have the call in like we're doing on Mondays. And we're having text and call in. We got, we got our boy Clint that calls in every Monday with a, with a, with a great story we're trying to develop. Just like the old radio days where there was like steady callers calling in with a story. I remember watching the Love Doctors when they were syndicated down in West Palm beach, bringing that to video where every day there's enough news every day to bring you guys accurate news, break down videos. And we spend the night shift to counterculture. And I see some of the comments, you know, the night shift dudes calling in, bringing. That's what we're trying to do. It ain't about all the stuff we did or talking about us. It's about you guys bringing us stories, bringing us videos. One more interaction. That's what we're trying to do. So we're gonna be. You're gonna see a lot because then counterculture is gonna have a spin off like a fight video breakdown.

[B]

Live show culture, fight club.

[A]

We got the Wednesday Night Live, the Tuesday Night Live, Monday Night Sports, like so counterculture.

[C]

I just spit everywhere.

[A]

Counterculture is going to be a, A separate but co show, but different logic, more laid back.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

No desk.

[B]

No desk.

[C]

Can we, can we do a ride along with like, I don't know, Largo? I can't do well, but I can. Right? Because I'm a baby face.

[B]

You hate cops. You can do it. You can be an auditor and they'll.

[C]

I don't want to be an auditor. I like Largo.

[A]

Speaking of auditors, I had a great conversation with Sean Reyes today. The Long island auditor.

[B]

Oh yeah? How'd that go?

[A]

Great conversation. And I will tell you, Sean Reyes, you see him on YouTube, you see what he does. People want to hate on Sean Reyes. I agree with holding cops accountable. And that's part of what my platform is. And you guys, the video that went the most viral with Sean was the, the trooper, Connecticut state guy spitting in his face.

[B]

Yeah, we broke that down.

[A]

Yeah, we broke it down. I took Sean's side. You didn't.

[B]

So he's still going, sorry, I'm a real voice.

[A]

He still took that. That case is still going. He actually has some beef.

[B]

Is he. Is he pressing charges?

[A]

Yeah, he's trying to go to, like. There's a trial coming up for the cop. Let me tell you. Let me. But let me just. Let me tell you something about what they do. Two things about that. Listen, listen. Everybody in the comments or everybody always goes around saying, we need to hold cops accountable. Cops get away with too much stuff.

[E]

Cops.

[A]

Cops are terrible. They do all this stuff. A guy like Reyes goes out and actually does it. Now, some of it, I. I get, like, the library stuff, and it's his platform. But the reason Reyes ended up at that guy's house, two reasons. One, there was an altercation three, four years earlier where the guy was standing outside, Sean Reyes. And the trooper walked up, smacked a phone out of his hand. They spun that at the agency, that it could have been a gun in his hand. We know that people can make cell phones, guns that look like cell phones, and he was in danger. So they brushed it.

[B]

Why not Mike? Then how do we know.

[A]

Then Reyes finds out that this guy's milking the system with, like, all you guys complain about. This Dude's making like 50, 70, 80 grand overtime at a desk job.

[B]

Cop can't make some money.

[A]

So he says, I'm gonna go ask this guy about this, but I can't go to the station. So he goes to his house, knocks on the door. The rest is history. The second the dude said, get off my property, just like last week, he did. Reyes starts leaving.

[B]

He did.

[A]

And gets spit on. And they caught disorderly conduct from the cop. Not battery, not assault. And he had a gun in his hand. So I am pro cop to the.

[B]

Have you ever seen that video, Jimmy?

[A]

But I have, yeah.

[B]

Okay. What's your take on it? I. I'm. I'm assuming because you hate cops. That it?

[C]

So believe it or not, I. Here's the thing. My. My biggest issue is I have no problems with auditors. I think that they're necessary. Here's what I don't like Coke Zero. I. I don't think you should dox anybody.

[A]

He didn't dox him.

[C]

He didn't dox him in that one.

[A]

He went to his house. He didn't give his address.

[C]

Okay. And so my.

[A]

We're being doxed by another guy.

[C]

Yeah, my. My. I was under the impression that. That he had docs somebody, and I. I'm very much against that.

[A]

So I want to address. Dan. Dan, you don't go to somebody's house. What makes a cop? You took an oath. The Constitution to the people. You are a citizen of the United States like everybody else. What makes you that much more special? That you can maybe scan the system or smack a guy's phone out of his hand? And that somebody can't show up to your door and ask you why you're being a piece of shit? Hypothetical. Are cops that protected. That I can go be a piece of get protected by my agency. And nobody can check me. Nobody can ever come question me.

[B]

So at your own house it's a America.

[A]

Do we move to Russia?

[B]

It's a. I think it's more like. Like it's a man code thing. You said you show up to another man's house.

[A]

It's the opposite. Cuz men like boy that won't address us directly, does it? Other way.

[B]

Question, question, question, question, question. Be careful how I word this. Okay. Someone that has that you've arrested different.

[A]

But go ahead.

[B]

Is it different?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Someone that use arrested shows up to.

[A]

Your front door different. There's a motive, there's a past history.

[B]

But the same laws that you're saying this is America.

[A]

I would handle America. I would be more in more fear if Sean Reyes walked up to my door. If. If Sean Reyes walked up my door.

[B]

I'd be like, well, at least somebody you don't know.

[A]

Yeah, the UPS guy, he knew who he was dude.

[B]

So his alarm was dispelled.

[A]

Our castle is so secret. Let's go to DoorDash three times a week and have some random crackhead in an ultimate.

[B]

At least I don't have a control car outside. So not spitting anymore.

[E]

Stop it.

[A]

You got doordash pizza guys been coming your door for 25 years. Sean Reyes shows up and you're emasculated because he wants to ask you about your over.

[C]

I've actually had. I mean. I mean this happened in church, man. I had a. An issue with one of the guys that I was in church with. He hid behind the badge.

[A]

Exactly. They hide behind the fucking badge and they think you're. You live in America. This is the greatest debate. Because some people. Brotherhood, fucking blin love we're all together and then when you do something, you're just. You're just a cop. You're just a cop. You're. You swear in, you go home like everybody else. You clock out, you have a job. And when you don't want to be a cop, when you see the fucking shit going off, off, dude, you're like man, I'm not dealing with that. But then all of a sudden I'm off duty and a guy knocks my door. I'm a cop. I can't. He can't come to my house.

[E]

Why?

[A]

Well, why. Why can't I come to your house? Why. Why can't I show up at your house tonight? Why can't I show up at your house tonight? There's a driveway and a door. I can knock on it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can tell me to leave.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there is a thing that states, unless you have a privacy fence that says it, you. A sidewalk or a. A walkway or a driveway is actually an entrance for. For the public. That's what it's determined as by case.

[A]

Law, you don't tell doordash to wait in the road unless you have a.

[B]

Privacy fence and you say leave it by the fence.

[A]

Completely different.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, that. That wasn't even the issue that I had. I mean, this is, you know, one of the reasons why I have. I have issues with specific agencies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. I get it. And. And what? That's my point is we always want to count. You want your zone partner held accountable for handling his calls? You want your zone partner accountable for not scamming the city? I just saw somebody from Orange County. Was it Orange County? They were not working details. Saying they were working. They were sitting at home. There was something going on.

[B]

I don't know, man.

[A]

There was another agency. So if you are copying and you got guys in your agency that are off, what do we do? We never walk up to them and call them out. We go talk about behind their back. We go tell everybody, oh, this guy don't do. You know, we never walk up to them.

[F]

I'll disagree with that one because I've. I've had lots, lots of experience with that. I was a sergeant for 17 years.

[A]

Up there?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Up north.

[F]

Up north, yeah. In Milwaukee.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Millywake.

[F]

Milliwake.

[B]

Alice Cooper.

[F]

Exactly.

[B]

In Wayne's World.

[F]

But I tell you what, if you did not. We called them squad areas, then they got called beats. They, you know, whatever. And if another squad was taking your shitty call, you know, they would be the first ones to drive by and see if you were physically there at whatever call you were at. On their way to that call, they're like, what are you doing? And I'd be like, we're in the middle of X, Y or Z and it's like, I'm going to your shitty call.

[A]

What year was that?

[F]

It was the late 90s.

[A]

Late 90s? Yeah, late 90s north, late 90s, where men were men.

[F]

Well, these. I remember I had a very legitimate call, and it was two female cops that. I mean, their hair was on fire. They literally were going, red lights and siren to where I was at. And it's like, what the F are you doing? You know, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I can't leave. Yeah, I forgot what the call was, but I. I literally can't leave. I'm taking your shitty call. They talked about that for two or three days straight. I'm taking O'. Donnell. Shitty call.

[A]

Started in 01.

[F]

This is.

[A]

You know, I started in 01. It was still happening. In today's cop world, there's. They don't. They won't walk up to somebody else.

[C]

So this isn't. This isn't 1atom12 anymore.

[A]

They don't do it.

[B]

Not anymore.

[A]

Well, they talk about each other behind their back. They will not confront.

[F]

You know why? I have a theory. My theory is everybody's got their phone. They're keyboard warriors. They don't get into people's faces. You know, it's like, I've got, you know, my kids are grown up, but they're in college, and they're using dating apps, and I'm like, what are you doing? What's wrong with going up to a girl at a party and, you know, striking?

[B]

Well, now that's weird.

[F]

Or a bar, you know, it's like aggressive now. You know, it's like, hey, you know what? You know, blah, blah, blah. Do you got game or not?

[B]

You can also follow them in your patrol car and sit outside their house.

[F]

As a sergeant, I had to deal with that. I had to deal with that.

[B]

It's a common thing. Apparently.

[A]

So did a bunch of poor girls in Volusia. They had to deal with that too.

[F]

Oh, my God. But yeah, I think we've become a society of keyboard warriors. You know, people aren't getting into each other's faces like they used to, and you're losing that. And you're also losing the gift of Gabriel. When I first started, we had no taser. No. No body cameras.

[C]

No.

[B]

It was either fist fighting or we're shooting.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, it was simpler times.

[B]

The night stick. But that thing hurt the ass. Doesn't hurt. You get hit with one of those wooden batons, man, that'll we that one.

[C]

I started the El Baton.

[A]

Yeah, we'd have it.

[F]

Yeah, the TJ Hooker baton. Yeah, that's right. You can take out people running away from you.

[B]

You know, I had body.

[A]

I had no taser when I started.

[F]

I never had one.

[A]

But you're right, because we had to walk up to people without a taser and go, man, this is gonna be a tough fight.

[F]

But it's the gift of gab. Nobody wants to fight. You know, after you get into your first couple of fights as a rookie, you're like, even when you win, the next morning you wake up, you're like, oh, now this is bothering me. On my off time, I love to go work out. I go to the gym every day. If that impedes my ability to go to the gym, if it impedes my ability to throw a football to my kid, the backyard, it ain't worth it. I mean, there are times where you have zero choice. It's on.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

That's just the way it is. But I'd say 80% of the time, you can talk your way through anything. And I work with cops that were so good at that. They could bring somebody down.

[A]

I mean, de escalation now.

[F]

Yeah, it's all fancy.

[A]

It's mandatory now. You have to, like, talk the gun out of their hand before shooting.

[F]

But I also worked with cops that could turn Mother Teresa into a no person Gandhi into a fighter.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

You know, it's just like. And it was always the same people, and you hear them on the air.

[A]

And you're like, you know the call you saw? Did you see the one I'm talking about, the auditor? You don't know the video?

[F]

No.

[B]

Try to find it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's go to Instagram and watch another video.

[C]

Though before that, we did get one.

[F]

Super chat from Steve.

[C]

Koda is not AI. She is a Pomeranian that promotes Florida law enforcement. First responders. She has 375, 000.

[A]

Send me the profile at Copville OG send me the profile.

[E]

I want to look.

[C]

I can. I. I got it for you.

[A]

Send it to me.

[C]

Okay, Roger that. I. I also want. Omg, It's Wicks. He's just a Florida guy who jokes about Florida things, and I want him to.

[B]

Come on. Yeah. All right, what's next on the. On the gram?

[C]

The female officer sues her department.

[B]

Let's do that one. All right, so a little bit of backstory on this one. We. We've all been there where you're in control of the situation and someone tells you to back away, and you're like, dude, don't. Don't. Don't touch me.

[A]

Like, you have that here a couple times.

[B]

Yeah. So, I mean, in this scenario, this dude, this cop is a big boy. He's a big dude, and he's handling. He looks like he works in the inner city. He's handling a call. A bunch of loudmouth that are going off and. And I guess this is being spun up as a. A race thing. I don't know. But apparently this female cop tried to tell him to walk away. And now because she shoved him, she's on 6 month admin leave and now suing whatever agency that is. So let's roll that clip.

[A]

We're going to disagree on this one.

[E]

Aggressive.

[A]

My office.

[D]

Yeah, you know why?

[A]

You to hear story of. Don't do that. Don't do that, don't do that.

[E]

And I'm definitely letting him know that. Cuz you are.

[D]

You shouldn't be on the streets.

[F]

Straight up.

[C]

He shouldn't be on the street.

[B]

Straight up.

[A]

He shouldn't be on the streets.

[D]

He shouldn't be on the street. And I'm definitely letting old boy know.

[A]

AirPods and walk away.

[F]

Hey.

[A]

I haven't even done over here.

[E]

You go over there.

[A]

I haven't even done.

[C]

Actually.

[A]

Station.

[E]

Wait a minute. Crutchfield, go back to station.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[B]

Walk that way.

[A]

I have to do this.

[D]

My little brother. Oh, God.

[C]

I shouldn't even talk to you.

[A]

Just kill my dad.

[C]

Just kill my face.

[A]

Don't touch. Don't touch. Wait, wait. Dude. What are you doing? He's wrong. You're wrong. You're heavily wrong.

[B]

His father just got killed at.

[A]

Stop.

[C]

Get your watch commander out here.

[A]

Get your watch commander. Get your watch commander out here.

[D]

Get your watch commander out here. Get your watch commander out here. No, I'm not letting go of my kids.

[A]

No, you're trying to replicate my kids.

[D]

This is.

[A]

Look. Look at how they doing my kids.

[E]

Don't touch my face.

[A]

You don't see me sitting. What are you doing, bro? I'm not even sitting.

[E]

What are you doing, bro?

[A]

Y' all just killed my dad.

[D]

Y' all on some weird.

[C]

What are you doing?

[A]

Okay, Let them do their job.

[C]

No, I didn't do. That's the thing I didn't do.

[A]

So what are y' all talking. He's touching my face all day.

[C]

Oh, God, it's on.

[A]

Look at how he's aggressive with me, dude. Stop doing me like that. Y' all just kill my daddy, though.

[E]

Let me go, bro. Why y' all got me in handcuffs.

[D]

Why?

[C]

I ran up on my brother because I had something. It's not your business. I had something on my brother.

[E]

I ran up on my brother.

[B]

I got anger issues. Bro, bro, bro.

[E]

I think I broke my.

[F]

You need A paramedic?

[A]

No, I think I broke my wrist, bro. This female police officer was instantly put on a six month administrative leave for.

[B]

Lightly nudging the male officer.

[A]

Her name is Officer Tazin Crutchfield and she is suing her own police department for racial discrimination, retaliation and wrongful punishment. She claims the department is punishing her for trying to de escalate the situation, even though she was trained for de escalation.

[B]

I never would have thought the department.

[D]

I trusted while growing up in this.

[B]

City would be training.

[E]

You're getting aggressive.

[A]

They had me in the first half.

[B]

They did me in the first half. So what you guys saw was they. What they did was they did clip the climax at the beginning to keep viewers in. So when we saw her and then we watched what looked like it was, I don't want to say edited to do anything, but it was snipped up. Obviously that was probably a 25 minute ordeal that was chopped down for social media. But we've us cops that have worked the hood, we have all been in those situations. Everyone was calm. Bracelets were put on. People essentially went hands behind back talking shit. It's just how it works. That was actually a very, very calm situation. No force was used. It was. I told you to shut up. I told you to stop, you know, doing this. Okay, now you're going. You put your hands behind you. They do it anyways and they talk. That's just the name of the game. And for someone to walk up and tell a cop, just go, just walk. I don't. You're not telling me. Unless you're a supervisor. Supervisor, different story. But she walked up and I hate to say it, but it looks like it was a be careful. Yeah. Thing.

[A]

A thing.

[B]

Thing. No, no. You don't think that.

[A]

No, don't say it.

[E]

So Mike was.

[B]

I wanted Mike to see the end. He even tried stopping it before. And I was like, wait till you see this girl. And she is what looks like an Instagram cop.

[A]

Yeah, I was.

[F]

I. That hair is not regulation.

[A]

The police.

[B]

And police, like, clearly she's doing content in that clip.

[F]

I was like an impersonator. To tell you the truth. It didn't look like a real.

[A]

I'd be interested in the. I'm not going to arrest the judgment. I'd be interested to see the rest of her file, write ups, ias, or any other complaints she's gotten. If there was some type of snowball effect to her being let go, I can see both sides of that. Until I saw the end. It unfortunately, the eyelashes, fake hair, the modeling, that kind of discredits my argument a little bit.

[B]

Like, do you think that that cop had. Did anything wrong? Do you think he needed. No, no, no. The guy. Do you think he needed to be calmed down?

[F]

No, not at all.

[A]

No.

[B]

I think he was very calm.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. And yes.

[C]

But.

[B]

And when you work that hard. I will say this. When you work that hard to stay that calm and you keep it all. Because obviously you want to slam people. But you know what, You're a seasoned cop and you're like, this guy's compliant, he's just talking shit. And then for someone to come up and cut your legs out from under you like you were in the wrong.

[A]

I've had people do that, but I've.

[B]

Had people do it to me in both scenarios, when I did need to calm down and they were there to.

[F]

Check me as a boss. When I'd be at a dynamic situation, I could see a cop would be losing his stuff, I would gently take him off to the side. And it's like, you know what? You need to take a breather. But I'm not going to discredit him in front of a suspect. And yeah, and it was only a time where it's like, okay, this could really boil over.

[A]

I'll say this, though. I don't think. I don't think she should get fired for that.

[B]

No, absolutely. I don't even think she should be.

[A]

I. I think I'd be interested to see if there's anything more.

[F]

Six month suspension. Was that without pay, though?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Probably not.

[F]

Yeah, I think she was probably just getting. She'll ride the pine, you know, she'll be inside. IAD will drag their feet. It'll be like a year before anything and everyone's going to forget about it. And unless she goes with some type of civil litigation against the department, that's another can of worms.

[B]

Black thing. Racial discrimination about what?

[A]

That cop looked Hispanic, didn't he?

[B]

I don't know.

[F]

It shouldn't matter.

[C]

But I guess, hey, George Zimmerman was a white guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For like a year.

[F]

It shouldn't.

[C]

Just saying.

[F]

But here's the big thing. What's the totality of the circumstances? Are they at a homicide investigation where if these people are like strolling around this crime scene, they could be kicking around casings, you know, etc. Etc. You know what? It's got to be cleaned out. You got to just watch that whole scene, you know, of civilians, etc. You gotta. You gotta preserve the integrity of the crime Scene is it three people on the sidewalk just running their. Flapping their jaws and running their mouths? I don't know.

[A]

Can't you do 10 push ups? That's what I want to know.

[B]

Yeah, I mean. And yes, we have to go. We have to go in assuming that they had the right to detain these people. They had the right to then make an arrest based off of whatever they did. And it was a. It was the smoothest arrest in hood history.

[C]

Ex.

[F]

Exactly. It was because they'll run their mouth to just give themselves some credibility with their buddies. You know, it's like, yeah, you know.

[E]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[F]

I guarantee five minutes after he was in that squad car, he didn't say anything. Guaranteed no.

[B]

And they.

[F]

Because he didn't have a stage.

[A]

You know, their Jordans are fake, man.

[E]

You got to tell them.

[A]

Yeah, man. Or you call him a snitch. I used to say, man, you were giving me information last week. You. I didn't know they were like, you snatch. You met me last week and that's. They can't.

[B]

Oh, that ain't me, man. I'm out of here.

[A]

You call them a snitch or you tell them their shoes are.

[B]

Yeah, so, I mean, I don't think. I highly doubt. I just know cops and I know and I can tell. I highly doubt that cop was like, I want to press charges for assault or battery. He was probably, you know, they. He's. Cops don't do that to each other. Is she the type of cop that if he pushed her away, she would. Possibly because she's suing the department for racial discrimination. That's insane to me.

[A]

Again, I got to see more than what she has to have.

[B]

No, this is the Internet. We just have what we have. No, come on. No, we just have what we have. We have a minute.

[E]

You would.

[F]

You would have to prove some kind of damage to her, though. You know what? I didn't get promoted. I didn't get into this unit.

[B]

No.

[F]

Six month suspension.

[A]

Well, she lost six months in pay.

[B]

No. That's what you were asking.

[F]

No, no, no, no. Most likely it's okay. You know what? We're going to give you a rubber gun. You and your bad. You know, we'll take your badge. You have your id.

[B]

Get this wooden gun.

[C]

You're gonna.

[F]

You're gonna ride the front desk for however long it takes. And IED is going to do their thing and it will all go away unless she just keeps on, you know, pushing it. And maybe they'll promote her or Put her in community relations.

[A]

That's coming soon. Yeah.

[B]

Oh yeah, she'll be in the community relations squad.

[A]

She'll be making tik toks and get ready with me.

[C]

I mean, which, which really goes to the super chat question.

[B]

What is it?

[C]

So what is the gain or advantage? You're fired for the department having Instagram cops.

[A]

Honest question, what is the gain or advantage? I, I'm, I'm an expert in this.

[B]

All right, well, let me give mine before you go because you are the expert. Having a real in touch social media presence and not a corny ran by a. Yes, like I remember Miami. Miami. He actually, he, he has a podcast now. Miami Dade Police Department did a really good job of their social media. They let a guy do it who was really into it. He would go vlog, go see all the units. He would. And it wasn't corny. He was like a cool, fun dude. And you know, and, and so I think done right, it actually is a tool in today's age, in today's time to be relevant and to be funny. And if you, but you gotta have the right team doing it. If you're just like, hey, we're just gonna post on Facebook. To post on Facebook, sure. Does it benefit the agency maybe to show that you did shop with a cop, coffee with a cop, you know, but a really effective social media presence is very rare nowadays. How say you, Mike?

[A]

Yes. So the I get, obviously most of my platform is posting these corny videos, these agency posts. The easiest way to determine if you want to go work for an agency, if they're posting those fucking stupid corny tiktoks, you don't want to work there. You want the agency that are posting foot pursuits, dog bites, tasings, helicopter video of crime. Because at the end of the day the job is tough, it's nasty, it's filled with crime and getting punched in the mouth. And you want to see that the agency is doing that and the, the guys are allowed to do it. So when you're skimming through, I post so many of them. Virginia beach the other day did one. They were trying to sing and they're singing and it's horrible. And it's like a recruiting ad and it's so bad.

[F]

Here's my problem with all of that is if you have younger cops that have like two or three years on the job doing this, getting paid the same amount of money as the same cops are who out, who are out humping assignments every night, putting their lives at risk and they're Getting these tick tock or Instagram cops are getting paid the same amount of money. They're probably have modified shift assignments. Well, I can't make this, you know, tick tock at night. It has to be during the day. You know, I. I gotta.

[C]

I gotta push back on you, Pat.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

Okay. So I. I was.

[B]

I was right if I call you Pat?

[F]

Yeah, I've been called a lot.

[C]

I mean, hey, I mean, I call you Patty if you want.

[F]

P A D, D Y. I'm okay with that, brother. I'm okay.

[C]

I'm Irish too.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

And I like Patty. That's a good whiskey.

[C]

So I was in the army. I was in the army for 10 years. I was an infantryman. I deployed a few times. I got paid the same amount as the shipbag that stayed on the FOB and never once got a bullet fired at him. They went on a deployment, I went on a deployment. They got combat pay, I got combat pay. Who was doing a harder job? I was living in the dirt. I didn't even get to call my wife for like a month. Like, people are trying to kill me every day. We all got paid the same.

[F]

See, that's not right. That's not fair. That's not right.

[B]

We say that about cops too, you know, you can go take your calls and sit under a tree, or you could be the one out there risking it all, risking it for the biscuit. You get paid the same. I mean, whether or not you're on a specialty unit and you get specialty unit pay. That's a little. It's a differential. It ain't that much.

[C]

You got. You got jump.

[A]

Here's the other thing I put. I did this on my episode last week, the budget crisis episode. The loudest cops and the ones that go to these, like, are the ones that don't do anything. They're the loudest in the comments on Instagram. They're the loudest on we want more money. We want this, we want that. It's always the guys that are doing the. And I don't know about up north because you guys are different. You guys have unions up there. It's a completely. Down here.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's the guys that are making the tick tock videos or doing the agency promotional videos or all this garbage that are in the comments screaming, we want more money. You know who's not screaming what? Morning. The dudes that are out doing the job because they love the job.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Plus they don't have time to get on there and do it. They're actually doing the job.

[F]

I can't tell you how many times, you know, in the locker room, it's like blue flu tonight, guys. We're not gonna take. We'll take our assignments. We're gonna lay in the weeds. We're not gonna chase anybody. We're not gonna, you know, because we've been working out without a contract for two years. This is BS, you know, blah, blah, blah. Five minutes, 565. I'm in pursuit, I'm westbound. And everyone's like, let's go, let's go, let's go. You know, it's like you're like a giddy little school because you can't get it out of your.

[A]

It taught me, like, six, 14, 15 years. When I finally filed my retirement, I'd start collecting this month. I went back and looked at my pay history. It took me like 14 years to break, like, 60 grand, dude. I wasn't making anything. Yeah, you couldn't have paid me a million dollars at that point in like 2009, 10. You couldn't have paid me a million dollars to go do a different job. I would have stayed there for 35 grand chasing bad guys because it was what I wanted to do. I didn't care about money. I didn't work any overtime gigs. All I did was chase bad guys, put them in jail, went back to work the next day. Now it's kind of shifted change. And I did, I went later, my career. I started working overtime gigs and all that stuff. But there was a point in my life that million dollars wasn't worth leaving the job. I wouldn't have took it. I would have stayed. But now I wouldn't go back for a million.

[F]

At the end of the day, even the cops who aren't, you know, like, running and gunning all that hard, you're still out there. You're still in danger. You're still putting yourself out there, you know, okay, maybe not as much as, you know, like a super active cop. That's, you know, chasing all the time. You're still out there compared to somebody who has some cushy desk job. Or compared to, yeah, I'm gonna make TikTok videos and, you know, I'm in the office of the chief and, you know, we're gonna do this special thing and they're working banker hours, they got weekends off. They, you know, it's just not the same and they shouldn't be compensated the same. But if you have some cat that was in a critical incident, we'll say that and you know what? His brains are scrambled. He needs some time to decompress. Give him a decent job like that. I have no issues with that whatsoever. Or somebody that's got 24 years on they got a year before they retire.

[B]

All right, all right.

[F]

Why not?

[B]

Let's go to another Instagram video.

[C]

Can we do the room clearing one now? Because I. I don't know.

[D]

What.

[B]

Did you send it to us?

[C]

I. I did. I'll send it again. It's on. It's on BJJ cops page.

[B]

All right, send it to Anti Hero. All right, stand by while we're waiting on that. Let's go to the one above that. All right. Yeah, this one's pretty bad. I think we're all seen it, though. Oh, down.

[C]

It gets so laggy. Sorry.

[B]

It's okay. That one right there. Are you ready?

[C]

Broke and I don't know if it's recent.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, my God. Flashbang. 6876A. We have flashbang. He's going off me.

[D]

Captain's up there.

[A]

Captain's up there.

[D]

Come on.

[F]

Ambulance.

[A]

Wow, Jimmy, you got something for that? Oh, I, I. Jimmy hates cops. So let's hear what Jimmy.

[C]

First of all, like, number one gunfight starts right There's. I don't care what training you've ever had. There is nothing in my world that goes, I'm going to leave my buddy where a gunfight just started. I might move down the stairs. I might move to a piece of COVID I might catch a hard point.

[A]

You wouldn't run outside?

[C]

I wouldn't be running outside.

[A]

Did you notice the number two voice inflection of the person ran outside?

[F]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Female.

[C]

I did. Okay, second thing. Number two, that did not sound like a flashbang, which tells me that there's a problem up here.

[A]

I'm gonna kill you with irony. When you. Okay, go ahead.

[C]

Okay, first of all, if you are in a house and you see a bright flash and hear a bang and you think flashbang, what mindset are you in?

[F]

Okay, If I was serving search warrant, that'd be different.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, we're going up there on a string.

[A]

It was a domestic violence.

[C]

You know, just walking up there with the captain, like, I mean, the guy walked past three open door. @ least one or two open doors. Didn't go like, wonder what's around that corner. Just walked up there.

[B]

Well, I mean, was there any reason to think otherwise? It's not a tactical situation.

[C]

It's a dv.

[B]

It doesn't matter. I walked up to DV called.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know the backstory of the dv, but the, the irony of that, all that calling it a flashbang was I. Somebody sent me a picture of the actual female involved in the video. She had her big hat on, she had her uniform, her arms about this big around, and she actually, I've never seen this in my life. She had a speed loader of shotgun shell rounds on her vest I've never seen in my life. But the irony that she carried shotgun reloads on her kit, but didn't know the sound of the difference between a shotgun sound and a flashbang sound. And she was this big around it. Little tiny female.

[C]

It's the mindset that, hey, anytime I'm going into somebody else's residence, I'm going from known to unknown. Do you remember doing that when we, when we would train? Battle drill 6. Going from known to unknown. Right. Hey, I'm, I'm going into the unknown.

[B]

Well, here's the biggest thing, is that I think I, I, I was peeing towards the end of it, but I think I heard you guys. Is that.

[A]

You heard us while you're peeing?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do you like it a little bit?

[B]

Is that I would never have ever, ever left somebody like that.

[C]

That's what I said.

[B]

Oh. I mean, even if you freak out and run, let's say it got the best of you in that one second.

[C]

And you and your father, your lower.

[B]

Brain function go back up there. You don't consciously choose to leave someone there. You go. I don't care if you got to go up firing.

[C]

If you go down in the kill zone. I mean, now, of course, I was trained to do this, and I did do it in real life, but you go down in the kill zone, I'm, I'm, I'm coming over top of you, and I'm, I'm either going to go ahead and, and put some rounds down range, or if I can't acquire and identify so that I can engage, I'm at least going to cover down. Move to you. Hey, bro, while I'm looking down range. Hey, bro, are you okay? You okay? Hey, let's move back. Let's move back. Come on, man. I got you covered. Let's go.

[A]

If you watch the video, the captain is facing this way. The shot comes from this way, and she's directly, directly facing Flash. You can see the flash on his body.

[F]

Did anybody get shot?

[A]

He got shot in the face.

[F]

Yeah, he got shot.

[A]

It was bird shot, though.

[B]

Bird shot.

[F]

It doesn't Matter.

[A]

Yeah, he was.

[F]

Yeah, he got shot in the face and she ran away outside.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

And that. What I'm saying is that just.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

No warrior spirit anymore in a cop. Let's just face it. That's okay. But once you realize, oh, I just ran down the stairs, you go back up and get him.

[A]

She literally yelled right outside, said, hey, the captain's up there.

[B]

Hey, let's go. Let's go to the next call.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Wow.

[C]

I mean, like, I mean, I. I get it. You can't do what we would do in the army, but at the least.

[F]

No, you.

[C]

You see, says you're firing.

[A]

You got. You have a.

[C]

You should.

[A]

In that scenario, you have enough of a sight picture with a flash of a muzzle flash and a captain getting shot to immediately return fire.

[C]

Well, oh, absolutely.

[F]

There's the. Okay, there's the threat.

[E]

Correct.

[F]

You're going to keep firing till there is no more threat as you're pulling this captain by his shirt if he's on the ground and drag him down the stairs if you have to, you know, whatever, to get him out of harm's way.

[C]

I mean, he. He was ambulatory. He actually walked down the stairs himself.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

I mean, like, but, you know, okay, he's in shock. I mean, if I know my buddy's shot, I'm gonna make sure that they get to safety. And if I have to lay down some fire to do it. Okay, you know, that's fine.

[B]

Oh, she was the first. Did you guys watch the whole video?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

She was the first one to play hero. Getting her the hospital, though. Yeah. Oh, when. When he walked out of the danger, she was the first one to go, guys, I got this.

[A]

She get to leave? Yeah, she gets to go somewhere else.

[C]

I mean, look, there's. There's plenty of dudes out there who. Who wear all of the accoutrements of a warrior, of a cop, of a fireman, of whatever. And when it's time to, like, go do some warrior, they freeze. Because it's way cooler to be one on Instagram than it is to actually do it.

[A]

That's our transition back on into Tik Tok. If you're not like, I. I get guys like, I. I posted a chief the other day with his magazines completely unable to reload. He was out. He's a tactical guy. I got a bunch of flack that he's a great guy. His kit, it's impossible for him to reload. His body camera and his taser are blocking the magazines. That tells Me, he's never practiced, but everybody said he's a good guy, he's out doing it in this. My, my transition to that is tick tock. If you're not thinking I might walk up to these stuff stairs and get shot. And you haven't run that through your head a couple times and gone. Look, my mags are here, my gun is here. I'm ready. We're going to.

[B]

What happens when they come through the door?

[A]

Yeah, we're going through. Unknown. The captain's going upstairs first. He's walking forward. I should be down the hallway.

[C]

First of all, if, if I'm, I don't give a like if. Unless I'm like a rookie, like hey, hey, Cap, maybe, maybe back up, let me go first.

[A]

I don't know.

[F]

You grab him by the belt, but you pull him.

[A]

And the only time you're going to a. A call that fast is like a direct threat. That would be to a known threat or an unknown threat. You're bypassing open doors. I don't know. That's why I'm saying the nature of the call is, is confusing to me because why are we just willy nilly walking upstairs anyway?

[F]

Well, I have a couple of scenarios for you that are very similar to this that I had to deal with. One, I was on a task force. Was like a violent crime task force where we brought in rookie cops and seasoned cops, guys from the SWAT team, etc, etc, and we just kicked ass for a summer because it was completely off the chain and we had two SWAT guys that were on a traffic stop. So I'm like, I'll go back them up. So they've got the M4s out and they're, they got the muzzles at the car that they stopped. And I'm like, oh shit, this must be a felony traffic stop. And I'm like, hey guys, you know I got my gun. I'm like, what you got? What you got? I think it's something cool. It says that's a traffic stop. And I'm like, why the hardware? Well, this is a dangerous neighborhood, Sarge. I'm like, do you realize I work this neighborhood by my fucking self for years? From midnight to 8, you know how many cars I pulled over over here? How many assignments I've gone to? You know, if you have some kind of feeling or if there's evidence that there's something where you need a long gun, I'm all for it. All for it. But just because it's a scary neighborhood and it's nighttime, I'm like, what's wrong with you, chicken shit? But then I had a female cop that was on a lot of recruitment posters, a ton of them. And I'm not gonna. Like, that's all I'll say. But Planet Fitness, a bunch of sluggos stole a bunch of cars. These guys are hanging up their keys by the door. And it wasn't the worst neighborhood, but not the best. And they came back the next day. They're even wearing the same clothes. And I'm like, holy shit. So I hear the call come over. I'm like, yeah, I'll back that car up. It was her and her partner. There's three slugos inside, stealing cars. I mean, stealing the keys and running out to get. You know, I scream up there, and she's still in the car. I'm like, what are you doing? And she's like, well, there's three of them and only two of us are. And I'm like, are you kidding me? You've got the bat belt. You've got how many things on your belt?

[C]

Yeah, and a radio.

[F]

And I'm like, what's wrong with you? These guys, there's no. Nobody saying they're armed. They're shitheads that are stealing cars. And I'm like, it's your job to go in there. So I blew up. Thank God a couple more cars came, and we got all the shitheads in custody. And she. She literally stayed in the car the whole time. I sped to the district station, went to my lieutenant, and the captain was in there, and I said, okay, I got to calm down. I said, she needs to be written up for cowardice. She's a coward, and that is against the rules. RSOPs. And my lieutenant's like, I'll sign it. Captain's like, nope, sorry.

[B]

It started then. Oh, all right, let's go. Let's hit the super chat and then head to the next video.

[C]

Joe said, okay, you said it. For the captain to be out on point, were they not taking it seriously until it was too late? Just saying. I'm gonna say, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I've never been a cop, And I know DVs are the most most volatile situation you can ever walk into.

[A]

That's high. High level of shoot. A lot of shootings on DV calls. Yeah, I can think of. There's two or three in my agency.

[C]

There was one in Polk county where they went to a DV call, and there was a blue on blue. I don't know what you guys call it. We call it blue on blue. Where you know, a cop was engaging a suspect and didn't hit the target, and it went through and hit another cop.

[F]

Yeah, it's blue on blue.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, let's hit up. So you sent it from Jimmy? Jimmy, yeah. Go to Jimmy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I hear that magic noise. Never have to hear that again on my own body. I love it.

[F]

I never had one.

[B]

Oh, that's awesome.

[D]

Good for you.

[F]

Never. Sergeants didn't have to. It was cops. And below, well, just cops had to wear them. That's it.

[A]

Good for thy not, good for thou.

[C]

It.

[D]

Sa.

[B]

All right. What country was that in? Brazil.

[C]

I, I, I'm, I mean, it's Brennan, so I'm.

[B]

What, what was the problem with the video?

[C]

Oh, oh, okay. So I, I, let's break it down. First, how much time was spent in the fatal funnel? Like a shitload. Number two, point of domination, right? Sec number three. Hey, close that door all the way as you're going through, fucking slam that thing closed. Because there's bad guys behind that thing. If it's not. You've. You've secured your entry point. You've got no control over the stack. You're not communicating with each other. People are clearing.

[B]

All.

[C]

Everybody's clearing left. Nobody's clearing, right. Guys walking on into from owned, known to unknown. And you haven't even secured your point of entry yet. And then a gunfight starts. Numb muzzle awareness, trigger discipline. I can't imagine anything worse than this. If this was privates at Fort Benning, I would be scuffing them up for the next two hours.

[F]

Well, my, my first thought is, where's the shield, man? You know, that's. If you're going to be doing that, you need a shield. And, you know, they call it a stack for, For a stat, a reason.

[C]

And you have to control the stat. Exactly.

[F]

And like you said, that fatal funnel number one, you got to get out of there as fast as possible.

[C]

Anybody that's ever done.

[F]

Yes.

[C]

Battle drill or, you know, cqm. CQB knows. Get the hell out of the fatal funnel. Get out of the way.

[F]

They taught us that in the academy. I mean, that was like very, very simple stuff. It's like, okay, you don't want to be standing here, but again, where's the shield? Where's the stack? It's bad news.

[C]

Yeah. And then. And, and this just sort of illustrates why it's bad because once the gunfight starts, there's no control. And, and people are just sending rounds, you know, which could have been mitigated by hey, let's. Let's pie this corner. Let's do a rolling tee. Let's. Let's do something. Let's do high man, low man, you know, whatever. But nobody did was. Everybody's just moving and doing their own thing instead of being a coordinated thing team. What say you, man? Who was on the SWAT team?

[A]

Tyler, you go.

[B]

You have more time on the team.

[A]

Well, that's. I mean, like, they're saying the breach was trash. You don't breach like that. Yeah, there was no coverage on the sides. There's no shield.

[C]

You.

[A]

You would breach and hold. You would let.

[C]

This, we call it.

[B]

I mean, but we're not watching, like, a tier one SWAT team here.

[A]

No, you're watching tier two or 97.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but whether or not we're watching tier one or tier 50, it doesn't matter. This is the stuff that, like, I. I guarantee you this sort of thing is happening right now, tonight in the United States.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And.

[C]

And people got to go, like, hey, man, maybe we should just go ahead and not run to our death.

[B]

I want to see Bradley. So there. If you go into Instagram, back into my chat, there's a. There's a video from X, and I don't know if it'll work. It's the. It's the piercing video.

[C]

Oh, that one.

[B]

But it's a link from X. Can you see if that'll open.

[C]

In the meantime? Do we need to hit some sponsors, dude?

[B]

Yeah. Good call, bro.

[C]

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[A]

Oh, I get to hit the button?

[B]

Yes, you do.

[A]

I just getting updates on who has blocked me since we started.

[B]

Who blocked you?

[A]

I. I'm gonna make sure before I say it.

[B]

All right.

[A]

He's a clown.

[C]

I gotta get the right. Okay, hold on. We're just over here with smooth jazz. I'm gonna do some.

[A]

My most common. My most common response on Instagram is can't see or blocked because I get sent 50 videos a day and then I'm. I don't. I'm blocked.

[C]

Yeah, I. Well, I mean, you're a rage bait, Mike.

[A]

No, I post facts. Only facts, man.

[B]

All right. Hit that number 15. 15. Well, it switched to. I don't know how it hit.

[A]

It was 15 when I hit it.

[B]

15. Okay, so 15 is Jared metric out of Colorado. Jared Metric, you have won the Patreon gift for the week. We will get it sent out asap, brother. Thank you guys in the Patreon for the continued support. We'll do another giveaway this week for the squad cast. When are we turning it into the night shift?

[C]

Do we have it? Do we have a hard time?

[A]

You don't want me to talk.

[B]

I know you, Mike. Mike wants.

[A]

You don't want me to talk.

[C]

I mean, dude, like, I'm. I can give you like my rundown on what it should be, when it should be, and, and everything else and, and how we should act, you know, operate. But like, dude, you're el presidente. You Know right to jail right away.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's. So people were asking earlier about counterculture. Counterculture is the media company, the media umbrella that houses tons of different podcasts, but we have a lot of in house shows too. The other than audible podcast unfiltered on phase with Heather was just here.

[C]

Guys on the ground.

[B]

Guys on the ground is another one. We have the fight club that we're going to launch soon. And our. Our like most proud one is going to be the chilled environment of the night shift, which is going to take over for the squad camp Ass. Whether or not it's going to be on Thursday is going to be determined by a phone call because. What a what, what. What was the phrase you used? Like duty.

[C]

Just send it, dude.

[A]

Duty to loyalty. Duty to explain it.

[B]

No, no, no, I can't. No, we got to have a phone call first. I. I just. There's a lot of business stuff that.

[C]

Has to just get edged right now.

[B]

Yeah, phone calls for sure need to be be had. But what Loyalty.

[A]

There's a. That's a keyword. That's loyalty.

[B]

I know. I'm getting it. I'm getting.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

All right, all right. Are you ready for that video?

[B]

Yeah, let's do it. We'll open on X. Yeah.

[C]

All right, let's do it. I don't know how it's gonna fit.

[B]

Into the layout, but we'll see.

[C]

That's what she said. I believe in you. That's not. I do. Yeah. Yeah, that looks good. Looks good. You think that's fine, Send it. What are y' all doing?

[A]

Oh, I was just scrolling through my feed when I found this. Imagine there's a knock at the front door. You go to the front door to see who it is. When you open it, it's police officers and they storm in and start cuffing you up like that. If you're like me watching this video, you probably started asking, what'd he do? Like, why are they there? What is the reason that they're doing that? I'm gonna play the rest of the video and if you listen closely, you're gonna hear the terrible crime that he is accused of.

[F]

For what? Piercing.

[B]

Body art without a license. Guys, chill.

[D]

What is really going on here?

[B]

You got them? Yes, I got all of them.

[D]

Guys, you're in the cameras.

[B]

This is ridiculous. Piercing his son's ear without a license takes three cops.

[D]

Four cops coming into my house without permission. No permission.

[B]

They busted in my front door.

[A]

This is the boy right here.

[D]

He got a pierced ear by his dad.

[B]

These cops busted in my door, busted in the front door.

[C]

I wanted my ears pierced.

[D]

Cuffs on this boy for nothing.

[A]

Body art without a license for piercing.

[E]

His own son's ear.

[A]

Let me guess on how that scenario went down. Kid came, said, dad, can you sign a release? So I get my ear pierced. And dad said, I'll just pierce your ear. Like, I know that's not hard to do. Cut to five cops showing up and strong arming him out, handcuffing him and arresting him. Taxpayer dollars at work for piercing his own child's ear that the child asked for. And from the sounds of it, as a teenager.

[C]

All right, we can kill it. All right, all right. So here. Here's the thing. This was sent to me by a buddy of mine who is in a. He's in the FD somewhere. And I first saw it, and I had already seen it, and I already knew the backstory, and. But I sent it to Mike anyway. And I was like, dude, this thing is making its rounds again. And Mike, by the way, was like, from the top rope within 30 seconds. Like, hey, this is the story. This is what happened. This is what's going on. And I'm like, yeah, Roger, bro, you're. You're killing the messenger. And so, hey, since this thing is making its rounds again, and there's guys in the FD and other places that are like, see, this is what cops do. Like, here's Jimmy not being a cop hater. Mike, take it away.

[E]

Well, it.

[A]

What happened was his son made, like, a child abuse type complaint at school that he was mutilated.

[B]

So that's what started it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, there was a.

[B]

This is a while ago.

[A]

Yeah, this is long ago. This is a complaint to a school. This is basically like your kid going to school saying, my dad, you know, beat me with a belt buckle and left. You know, punch me. And the kids got. So he makes a. Regardless of accurate. Fictitious. Not fictitious. He makes a report that there is some type of felony occurring in the residence. I would assume they either had a warrant or once they saw him, probable cause to go in and grab him. So the narration of all the theatrics of the narration, just like all these other videos we just talked about earlier in the segment that are created to shed doubt and to get clicks. It appears and presented, like, look at these hostile cops breaking into a house, just dragging a guy away because. Because of his piercing his son's ears. No, his son went to school and made some wild accusation against the dad. That is a felony and they went there to arrest him, detain him, or bring him to the station with felony probable cause or a warrant. That. Is that.

[B]

So.

[C]

Wait, so the cops were. They thought they were protecting a kid? Is that what you're telling me?

[A]

Kid made like a. Yes. Yeah, they made like a. It was like a child abuse type claim.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So. All right, so. And I get frustration, Jimmy. I really do. And I feel like that the. The blame needs to be placed on everybody that was in the process of drafting up a felony warrant. Outside of the cops that served it. I don't care if they were like, hey, Jimmy, spilt a beer. He's got a felony warrant. If it's a judge signed felony warrant, I. And they're. Then I'm told to go serve it. I'm gonna go serve it.

[A]

And would you not. And hear me out. I believe Pennsylvania lost three cops going to serve a misdemeanor stalking warrant. Killed in the line of duty, right?

[C]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

So when you hear that. When I said that that wife.

[C]

It takes four people to do this.

[E]

Job and come get him.

[A]

Well, what happens when we send 1, 2, 3 cops? They get killed. How do they know what they're going to.

[C]

Well, and that sort of goes back to. To like, you know, I. I'm from St. Petersburg, Florida. You know, there was a warrant served on hydrolacey and we had two cops get killed on that one. And. And a marshal was wounded.

[A]

So the amount of cops doesn't matter. The cops going through the door and that. Again, again, if I take that video and I can, I can make it a different story. I can make that video completely wrong. Looks like the cops are tyrannical and the worst cops on earth. Based on how I narrated just like all these videos and all these clickbaits and everything. Based on what you say, you can make that look terrible. And all they're looking for is what to get enough clicks that. Yes, we're seeing it. So it goes around. It gets clicks, it gets likes. It gets engagement. It drives followers up.

[C]

And then. And then it. And then it goes around again.

[A]

It's money. And it gets paid out from YouTube and X and all these platforms.

[C]

Here's my issue with this. Like, there's plenty of slime balls wearing the badge. I don't even know how the badge sticks mix to him, to be honest with you.

[A]

Of course there is.

[C]

But like, this situation right here is not one of them. And it calls into question the. The slime balls.

[B]

Slime ball.

[C]

Pardon me. It calls into question all of those.

[A]

Well, it, it's just like calling everybody a racist. It devalues the situations where it really applies. If everybody's a racist for not agreeing with somebody and you say racist, racist, racist, like Trump's racist. Trump's right. If you call every cop, cook, or this is. You make these situations, which really aren't bad. You try to make them bad. It allows the guys that are really doing bad things to kind of fall in and be like, well, there's so many people calling cops bad and pushing these videos that aren't really bad. How do we know which one, which ones are really bad or not? And that's what's happening is just. You can't watch 20 seconds of that video and go, they're breaking in. They're violating the law. The Fourth Amendment, where they have a warrant, they can knock the house off.

[C]

Can I ask a question? You know, he was like, why are you arresting me? And they answered him. I was gonna, I was gonna say, you don't have to tell him. Right. Doesn't matter. You judge.

[E]

Stop watching tv.

[A]

You don't have to be read your rights when you get arrested. You don't have to read your rights before you put the handcuffs on.

[B]

A lot of people don't know that. Jimmy, did you know that? Like the. Do you understand Miranda rights and why?

[C]

I do, actually.

[B]

Okay. Because I'm not trying to sell you.

[C]

No, but, but, but I. What I'm doing is throw.

[D]

I'm.

[C]

I'm ping ponging it to you guys. Yeah. So you can educate the public. Well, it's.

[A]

I mean, it's pretty simple.

[F]

Two things.

[B]

I thought this was gonna be knocked down, drag out.

[F]

Two things jump out at me.

[A]

Right away, he changed his stance. First off, he agrees with me now when he said it. Well, he didn't. You didn't know? I don't, I don't fault you for that.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't know that either. That it was a child abuse warrant.

[C]

I went, when? So when I got that, I went. I did the same thing I do with you guys. My buddy sent that to me. And I was like, I'll look into it. And I sent it to you guys. And Mike came back with, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And I was like, oh, this is well documented. Okay, Roger that. But then it. The wheels started turning and I'm like, dude, I wonder how many fucking people saw this and went, see, the cops are tyrannical. I'm like, yeah, sometimes they are. But this isn't one of those times.

[A]

Go back to the video we just watched, right? The black kid got arrested. Well, it's almost like the same, like, real.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[F]

That's okay. Just real quick, two things jump out of me. One, Bravo for the cops, for parking away from where they're going to be going in. That made my heart so happy. Because it's a very basic thing that a lot of cops don't do anymore.

[A]

No, they don't.

[F]

You know, it's like. You know what? You know, it's like, park one or two houses away. It's a couple of extra steps, and it might save your life.

[A]

Correct.

[F]

I know I sound corny saying that.

[A]

Can I ask. They're not teaching them that anymore.

[C]

Here's. Here's my issue, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

So this is my. This is a question. I want my vehicle as close to me as it can. As I can, because that's my main means of exfo. It's covering, concealment. It gives me my tools. It gives me more ammo, like. So why are we moving it away?

[F]

A couple of different reasons. One for ambush.

[C]

Okay?

[F]

For ambush is one second.

[C]

So maybe. Maybe we call it surprise instead of ambush.

[F]

But here's the thing, okay? As I'm walking up to this house, I can. You're not just watching, you're also listening. More than one time you go up to a door, that doesn't mean you have to knock on it right away. Listen for a little bit. If there's a call for, you know, like a DV or whatever the situation is, even a warrant, it's like, okay, do I hear a dog barking? All right, I might. I might approach this a little differently now. You know, is there a small baby crying? Is there. You're gathering information as you're walking up. Plus, you're getting your game plan together in your head.

[D]

You're.

[F]

You're going into that mode. It's like, okay, we know this guy has a felony warrant. He's going to jail today.

[B]

So it's like, unless you're a seasoned cop, and you're like, hopefully it doesn't answer door, so we can go get some Chipotle.

[A]

So let me tell you. Hold on.

[E]

Wait, wait, wait.

[B]

But before Jimmy.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[B]

And in my experience. And then, I don't know, in your experience, experience, no. If this had come through my jurisdictions, that I had worked, school system, right. An investigator would be called. Child services would be called.

[C]

That's how it works.

[B]

Parents would be interviewed, and no warrant would be drafted because this would all be figured out before the warrant Was.

[C]

I mean, I got. I got kids, and it's not.

[A]

That's not always the case.

[B]

Well, let's hear Mike.

[A]

There's some times when you don't enter, like based on danger and surprise and element. There's time.

[B]

My earlobe hurts.

[A]

If you got an armed robbery, you're gonna go knock on his door.

[B]

No, a child abuse case. I'm saying for a fact, they would come through the school. It would come. Would go to DCF here in Florida, which is the Children and Families Department, Social work.

[F]

It may have gone through.

[A]

We don't know that it didn't.

[F]

Yeah, it may have gone through all of that before they got there. Because in order.

[A]

Did you get interviewed in your criminal case?

[B]

That's true. I did.

[A]

If they were going to get a warrant for you, you don't think they would have come and arrested you? If they had probable cause, they wouldn't have called you first.

[F]

Here's the deal. The best thing about a warrant is probable cause is already established. You've got carte blanche if you know Mr. Felony Guy is there, and you have to know that they are there. You know, depending on the situation, the door can go down and you use reasonable force to place them into custody because a judge is ordering you to do that. A judge is saying, go get Joey Sluggo. We have to do that. But here's my caveat. Obviously, there's already been an investigation. You know me. They did a forensic interview of the child. I don't know what the deal was with all that. All those cops know is the investigation's done, it's over with, and it's time to go get the bad guy.

[B]

Right?

[F]

But here's the thing. I've arrested I don't know how many people for homicide, where I'm like, hey, Jimmy, we got some old business to take care of. Come on outside with me for a second.

[C]

All right, good to go.

[F]

You know, click, click.

[A]

Jimmy played right into the.

[F]

And sometimes that worked and sometimes it didn't. But I would, if the situation warranted, I would always, always try to go the least. The path of least resistance. It doesn't always happen that way, but it. That's what it kills me for. TV and whatever, you're under arrest for the murder. Blah, blah, blah. You have to. Well, first of all, you're probably gonna fight. Second of all, you're gonna. You're not gonna say anything. I want a lawyer.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You notice the video only started as the door was being breached? And how do we know they weren't there at the door for 10 minutes.

[B]

How do we know that? How do we know that he did not. He might not have cooperated.

[A]

Correct. He might have stood there for 10 minutes saying, hey, no, no.

[B]

They might have came to the door and he might have said, go yourself.

[A]

Yes. And. Or the cops were going, hey, man, like, trying to do the easy with the easy way going, hey, man, just come out with you. We don't know what happened here.

[C]

Here's my best advice to anybody. If the cops show up to your door, if they have a warrant, open the door. And don't say, shut your mouth.

[B]

Your kid.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Well, put your hands behind your back and just. You have your day at work, but.

[C]

You'Re not going to beat the ride.

[B]

You're definitely not going to beat a warrant. It's not at all.

[F]

That's, that's the.

[B]

There's non negotiable. Non negotiable.

[A]

That is the most non negotiable.

[B]

Jimmy, is the sergeant major coming tonight?

[C]

He is headed. He's headed our way. He. He has his entire family with him, all 10 of them. And I, I, it's funny because he said, I just checked in. I'm headed your way. All right, good to go. So he's coming.

[B]

Finale.

[A]

What I wanted to point out, though, and I don't know what kind of cop you are, we weren't together, but I can tell you, I can tell he was a good cop.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Based on everything that he just described. I don't know. I don't know. You took your vest off at lunch. And so I can tell that he's a good cop because those type of things he's talking about are commonly overlooked. The things I pointed out were parking away from the house, not going up to the door. Quickly. Listening. I used to sit out with warrants, looking through the window.

[F]

Oh, absolutely.

[A]

Listening.

[C]

See, that's all those things that, that's very different.

[A]

You can't teach that a lot either. You teach them to it once and they don't want to do it.

[F]

You know where I learned it from? Good cops.

[A]

Exactly. So it's a, it's a past. And what we have done, and this is my argument, what we have done is field training now takes place in the car, on a computer, sitting in the car, going over.

[B]

Yeah. Did we go over this? Did we go over this?

[C]

Okay, so. So, I mean, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead and, like, transpose it against the way we would do a hit in Iraq. We would do an inner court on outer court, on the vehicles there. Everybody's there. We want you.

[B]

We want your entire mission. This is one call, right? Right. No, there's not.

[C]

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. The Bearcat, Wait, but, you know, okay, Striker up, Armor, Humvee, whatever we got. This is your entire mission. You're serving a felony Warrant.

[B]

Speaking. There's 30 other missions I got to conduct in 11 hours.

[C]

Yeah, okay, okay, I, I don't know that because I, yeah, I never wore the bag.

[A]

Is this is your sergeant's calling you. Is like, dude, is that felony warrant over? We got three calls.

[B]

Yeah, we got three calls.

[F]

The dispatchers ask, hey, are you done yet?

[A]

Yeah, you done?

[F]

You're done? They're stacking up.

[C]

I, I, I worked if this here's.

[B]

The thing, Jimmy, There are squads, There are squads like Marshall's task force squads. That whole day is based off that hit. Absolutely everything leading up to it and everything done after it. That hit. Let's say the hits at 11am they're coming in at 6am and they're there till 8.

[C]

Let, so walk me through this. So you come in, you got roll call, and you're like, okay, Judge Umpty squat, whatever. Sign the warrant for Knucklehead Schmuckitelli. I need five of you. How does it work? Man, I don't know.

[A]

That would be like a task force type deal or, or organiz organized.

[C]

So these guys are all in a task force.

[A]

They're going to leave that call and go, granny's dead on the couch. They're going to go the work, grandma's dead on the couch call. Then they're, one cop's gonna take him.

[B]

To jail, the other five are.

[A]

Then they're gonna go work civil.

[C]

Then they're walk, walk me through it, guys.

[A]

That's what we normally do on something like that. For me, would be all right, we know we got this guy with a warrant. We'd have like a quick, like, five of us meet in the parking lot real quick. Like, this is the house.

[F]

Best case scenario, what he looks like.

[A]

Might have time for that. Otherwise, it could be on the fly. Like, hey, Johnny Schmo is at the house right now. We got to go. And you kind of use your okay. What we used back in the day was good tactic passed down. We kind of knew, like, you're gonna go one side, I'm gonna go here.

[F]

Yep. Cover the back.

[A]

But so that is done on the fly. So you learn that that's on the job training. You Learn as you go. Now, if it's a very serious situation, like, now this guy's got a robbery.

[C]

Warrant or he's got a warrant with.

[A]

The marshals, then that's gonna be planned out.

[B]

Ops playing patrol can handle that. But there's going to be a canine involved. We're gonna get.

[A]

The helicopter's gonna be up.

[C]

We're gonna get pre planned.

[B]

We're gonna get like, there's going to be a sergeant that's going to start kind of like listening to everything and monitoring on. He's on his way there.

[A]

Nowadays, you're probably gonna even try to make. They're probably gonna do announcements and stuff.

[F]

There's no such thing as a no knock.

[A]

Yeah, there'll be a QRF outside.

[C]

So you do it like a no knock.

[A]

There would be announcements, there'd be a tactical call.

[F]

But you know what, though? Even with our no knocks, we still announced, you know, it's like police.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah. And you're yelling, police, police, police, police.

[C]

And that's good for me because if you. You come break down my door and you don't tell me you're the cops.

[E]

Absolutely.

[C]

I'm sending rounds back.

[A]

The only ones doing that now are the marshals, and they're very quick announcements. And they're in.

[F]

And that's why it's so important. I think if you're doing an entry like that, you got to be in uniform because like what you just said, if I. I'm wearing a T shirt and jeans and I got a badge necklace. I. I don't know what that is. Whatever, you know, it's like, of course I'm a bad guy. I know you're coming for me. I know that. But a slick defensive attorney could use that in half a second.

[A]

That's why that was my patch when we were in Marshalls. We had to actually put that on, Take our sheriff patch on, put the Marshall's patch on. Because if we killed somebody, the marshals were going to handle the shooting investigation, which is far different rules. Far different rules than local.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, when. When the feds get involved.

[A]

And the body cam stuff was different with the marshals, too. It went on right before entry, and it went off this the second the guy went in. Handcuffs off. They wanted as least public record as possible. They kept it very quick. Where now cops have to keep their body camera on for four hours after. I.

[F]

Let me ask you this. In Florida, do you say, you know, you're an officer in Miami, you're forced to shoot and kill Somebody tonight, does Miami PD investigate.

[A]

Every agency is different. You guys are probably more structured.

[F]

See, worse, the state mandated that it has to be a different entity. And what it is is like we have you on call. But here's my problem with that. You know, Milwaukee, obviously we shoot and kill more people because we have a higher concentration of bad guys that are shooting at us or whatever the case may be. And now we called the task force that come in that are from a suburb. It would be a combination of like three or four different suburbs. They come in and investigate us if we shoot and kill somebody or it's a critical incident of some kind. My problem is the biggest question crime some of these people have investigated in the last six months is a stolen bicycle.

[A]

Correct.

[F]

Now you're investigating the highest of all investigations that there is. This cop's life is in the balance of somebody that doesn't routinely investigate these kinds of calls. And that drives me bananas that not.

[A]

Only that you take it to the next level like Sal or Drotty is. Now that goes to a attorney general and for to a grand jury. And then that person says personal feeling about cops is played into that. The way the shooting is presented to a grand jury can go either way. If the prosecutor likes it, he goes in your favor. If he doesn't like it, it goes against you and that's that. That is a very dangerous system.

[B]

We've been on this too long.

[C]

Point of, point of order. Point of order.

[B]

All right, let's go to the next video.

[C]

First time best.

[B]

I used to. I. Yeah. So we talk about shade slime ball cops there. I used to know this cop named Ken and he used to paying dollar general employees on the job.

[A]

Did he pay a dollar?

[B]

And then I knew that was coming.

[F]

I knew that was coming. Only the best.

[A]

Oh my God.

[F]

That was.

[B]

Hold on, it gets better. Then he, then he, then he shacked.

[A]

Up with one of them.

[C]

Oh God.

[B]

And then she tried to get with me while he was sleeping. Ooh. Yeah.

[A]

I used to go to five. I used to go to five below.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[C]

So we're dropping bombs.

[A]

I used to go to 5 below. There was at least $5. Can I get in there? Not the top.

[C]

Can I drop my. Slime ball cop.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Cop is a, is a stepdad to a kid that's not his 18 year old female. His partner sexually assaulted and was allegedly, allegedly raped.

[B]

Her.

[C]

18 year old daughter tells said cop and he says you're a liar and covers for his bro. Oh boy. And then Six months later, she blows her brains out.

[B]

Wow. Way to bring the mood down.

[A]

I need counseling. I'm leaving.

[B]

Hey, stick around for Monday.

[E]

Yeah?

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

It's for the.

[A]

Cheaper than counseling, right?

[B]

Yeah. Cheaper than counseling. All right, what's the next one?

[A]

Real quick.

[C]

We have a super chat from Joe. Honest question. Doing a hit in war isn't like policing a population. Military doesn't serve a warrant. And so similar. Not the same. Just saying. Okay, okay.

[B]

No, but that's why you're here, Jimmy.

[F]

But.

[C]

But here's. Here's what I did do. I actually. I mean, we had to do this at late 2008, early 2009, and definitely 2010 and beyond, we would go and absolutely. In the middle of the day, surround a house with a bullhorn and a terp, go, hey, you're fucking surrounded. Come out. You need to come out to us, okay? Or we're gonna send some people in to come get you.

[B]

Right?

[C]

We don't want a gunfight. We don't want to kill anybody. Right? Now contrast that with what we did in 2007, 2008, where it was like 2 o' clock in the morning, inner court on outer cordon, breaching the door with water, impulse charges, and flashbang in the house, and we're rolling, baby.

[B]

So what.

[A]

What were the rules of engagement? Engagement for you guys?

[C]

A hostile act, hostile intent.

[A]

Okay. Obviously you guys have a lot more leeway than we do. We can't lay suppressive fire.

[C]

We can't do. We couldn't lay suppressive fire either. So as a sniper, like, I'm.

[B]

I'm different.

[C]

It is different if you.

[B]

If you laid suppressive fire because you felt like a PFC was like, I'm laying suppressive fire. That's all that the military needs is like, we're laying suppressive fire. Then they do an investigation.

[C]

15 6. You do a 15, 6.

[B]

It is not the same if someone catches a stray round in war.

[C]

Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no. I will absolutely give you that one.

[A]

If the guy, Brett Hankinson in. In the. In the shooting and with Joe Mattingly, he got indicted for civil rights violations for firing back at gunfight.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Didn't hit anybody. That's a crazy case. He got four years in prison, so.

[E]

But.

[A]

But never hit anybody, but fired back towards a gunfire and they charge him with civil rights.

[C]

When I was a military contractor, when I worked for a company that cannot be named. I know. Super spooky. If you knew that. If you knew the real story.

[A]

It's not that Cool to do that. I haven't done a while.

[C]

If, if we. We were accountable for every single round that we fired and we were not covered under the status of forces agreement.

[A]

But you weren't military. You were contract.

[C]

We were contractors. So if we got up, we were going to Iraqi jail. So if you had a use of force, if you went and got into a gunfight, they put you on the next bird smoking at a theater immediately.

[A]

Can we cover the middle seat thing? Everybody wants Jimmy at the middle seat. The reason we don't do that is if we have a Get four people sitting here. It's tight. So if we have a desk and you will be here one week.

[C]

Mike. Mike. You've never heard me say that.

[A]

No, it's up here. And then I, I, I, I just. There's not like you're not banished and I'm trying to explain it.

[C]

No, I'm banished.

[F]

Just so everybody knows I'm on the couch. I'm banished. Eventually.

[A]

This is going to be. We want this to be every week. Guest. We're starting to line them up.

[B]

It's not major.

[A]

Yeah, but it would be like, Jimmy's here one week. Denny's there. That is his area. That's a little play pen. Like got his area. That's his area. That's unique for Jimmy. That's.

[C]

My wife is laughing.

[A]

I saw that Jimmy spot. The reason he's there is one. It gives us. I think it breaks the, like.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Kind of switches it up.

[B]

Jimmy's. I mean, you. You're your own desk over there.

[C]

Well, once I get a bigger one. I mean, the amount of people that have ideas that are like, dude, your desk is so tiny. Do they hate.

[A]

Like. I watch Pat McAfee in the gym again. I see he's got people everywhere.

[C]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

He's got one guy on the tv. He's got two guys in the. A desk. Another guy by himself. That camera's going around like crazy. So not that we're copying that, but that's his area. If we put Jimmy here and then a guest comes now we're crammed in four deep. We have to move everything. It just doesn't.

[C]

And then the couch is three dots. I think Serm Ranger's here. He just pulled up. Okay, I'm going to get.

[A]

I'm going.

[B]

You can.

[A]

You can leave the kids area. I'm gonna go. We're gonna all take a break.

[F]

All right.

[B]

Go back to the broadcast to be. Everyone's leaving standby. What do you want me to Run the. Do the. No, not on. There you go.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Wrong door.

[B]

And we're back.

[C]

And we're back.

[B]

Okay, here's our guest.

[C]

Okay, so this is command Sergeant Major Bass. But when I knew him, he. He was Sergeant Bass come from. Coming from Alpha Company 127, came over to Charlie127, coming to Cold Steel with Captain Parks and Sarm Bass. When he was coming in to be First Armed, Bass had a reputation, and it was like, he's kicking this rock the fuck out of here. We are in big trouble. And, you know, the rumor mill was flying. And when he first got there, I think you were having surgery on your foot. You were on crutches for a while. And he had a. He had duct taped a Mountain Dew holder to his crutches. And we'd be in the cage room doing layouts or whatever we were doing, and he would just materialize out of nowhere and just be like, what you doing, man? Hey, hey, what's going on here? All right, all right, all right. Well, carry on, man. And he would just disappear and go somewhere else. And one of the things we knew about First Arm Bass was, was that he was a huge Miami Hurricanes fan.

[A]

This is going to be great.

[C]

Oh, it's fantastic.

[B]

Yeah, let's. Let's. Let's. We Right off the golf course. Yeah, right off the golf course.

[C]

Here he is.

[E]

I'm ready.

[C]

He would come up and be. We would do the. The safety beef on Friday, and, man, we're in Hawaii. I had to pay per view the Miami Hurricanes game. So between the hours of 12 and 4, you men are not going to train. You understand me, man? All right, now, after that. Now, listen, if you got to get me off the couch, I'm gonna come get you, man. I'm gonna come get you, but you won't pay for it later. So that was. That was First Armed Bass. And my. My favorite memory of First Arm Bass was when I asked to. First Arm Bass wanted me to go to Ranger school.

[E]

Everybody.

[C]

He wanted everybody to go to Ranger school.

[A]

Rangers lead the way.

[C]

All the way. And I had a really great squad leader, Sergeant Trio. And Sergeant Trio was like, jimmy, where you want to go? And I said, I want to go to sniper school. And he's like, well, First Armed Bass, I like that. And I said, I know. So first time Bass calls me up to his office and I'm standing there at parade rest. I'm 22 years old. And he's like, arnett, why do you want to go to sniper school? Instead of the school I want you to go to. And I said, well, first Art, you know, I really want to bring a skill back to the company. I want, I want to do something here in the company and I can go to ranger school and that's gonna be great. But I really. Yeah, well, a marine. The school that he sent me to was not easy, by the way. And so he tells me that and he goes, I'll tell you what, Arnold, I'm gonna make you a deal. You're one of the machine gun ags, you're one of the bulls. That's what he told me. He's like, so we're gonna go to ntc, we're gonna do live fire. I'm gonna be standing right behind you on support by fire position. You do a good job, I'll send you to that school. So we go out to NTC and I'm in the support by fire position and we are, we're getting after it, man. We did dry blank live day and then blank live night. And I'm on the, I'm the AG. I'm carrying my M4 7 mags and ammunition. A thousand rounds for the machine gun, the tripod, the tne. It's spare barrel, it's my assault bag was so heavy it was cutting off circulation to my arms. We go into the support by fire position and we're in live fire at night. No red light, no white light, no nothing. And my gun has a jam. And I had a brand new private who was the gunner, Rob Robinson. And the gun jams. And I'm trying to get this gun unfucked as fast as I can. And firstharn Bass is standing right behind me on the support by fire position. He's like, arnett, you need to get that fucking gun up right now. And I don't know what the fuck was going through my stupid 22 year old head, but I turned around and went first harm. I am going as fast as I can. And the next thing I knew, he had grabbed me by both sides of my Kevlar, had turned me whole body around, Gets right up next to me and goes, arnett, I don't want your excuses. Get the goddamn gun up.

[B]

No. Oh, we've all been there, Roger.

[A]

First art, somebody wants to know if you had 50 grenades in your bag.

[E]

I did not.

[A]

What's a wolf? Wolfhound.

[C]

Oh, First Art.

[A]

So somebody said, somebody in the chat said, I remember Bass, he was a wolfhound.

[C]

He was a wolfhound.

[B]

What's a wolfhound?

[C]

So that's all. That's 27 different.

[B]

Also, he hasn't said a damn word since Benny.

[A]

No.

[C]

Yeah. I'm sorry, but I had to introduce you.

[A]

Nice to meet you. Introduce yourself, tell us more.

[E]

Well, if y' all gonna have to talk about myself, that's not gonna.

[A]

Real quick.

[B]

How many years you do in the Army?

[E]

When they gave me my papers, they said I did 31 years, one month and one day.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

What was your primary MOS?

[E]

I was Infantryman 11 Bravo. So, you know, joined. I never joined the army to make it a career. When I. When I joined, my wife and I at the time, we were talking about getting married. I was working in construction, and I said, well, if I'm going to do this, I need to do something that is going to, you know, be able to take care of my family. Construction. You get laid off real quick. So we had a conversation, and she said, well, what do you want to do? I said, well, think about joining the Army. You know, four years stabilization, you know, steady paycheck, essentially got a dying ward, army college fund, GI Bill, and lo and behold, you know, as I joined, okay, what's the fastest way to make rank? Well, go be an infantryman. Go learn how to jump out of an airplane, and then take your ass to Ranger school. So that's, you know, in essence, what I try to do. And then, you know, fast forward, you know. After four years, the army had. I had been pretty successful because I lived my army life, and believe it or not, I still do to this day. I've been retired about a year and a half, but I lived my army life by five simple rules.

[C]

Right place, right time, right uniform, and don't be that guy.

[E]

Well, he got some of them, Got four of them. So do what you're told when you're told to do it right. That's first rule. Armies. Do what you told. Do what you told when you told do it. That's two of them, right? Be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there and be in the right uniform.

[C]

Don't be that.

[A]

Now it sounds like my marriage.

[E]

What he began. What he began to mesh in there was the. When I said, don't be that guy was. And my safety briefings was, you know, used to be real simple. You know, don't do anything to embarrass yourself. Don't do anything to embarrass the unit. Don't do anything to embarrass the nation and, you know, your country. And I'm sorry. The army and the nation and then don't be that freaking guy. So. But yeah, sorry.

[A]

Where are you from?

[E]

I'm originally from a small town in South Georgia.

[A]

How did you end up a Miami Hurricane?

[E]

Dude, we all ask that question. In the 80s, before ESPN became big and college football became a billion dollar operation, there was one team that, that came up on. On TV every Saturday night or every Saturday and they were laying waste to the rest of the college football world.

[C]

That was when Warren Sapp was playing there.

[E]

Forewarned when we go all the way back to Bernie Kozar and those guys and kind of got it started. Flutie, you know, threw a fluke and that. You know, still famous to this day. But yeah, so I, you know, my dad was a big fan. I became a big fan and now my oldest son is a huge fan. He got season tickets this year and part of that was had to promise my youngest daughter that we would take her. Now she's seven years old and she'll tell you what it's all about and she'll throw that you up.

[A]

So that's funny because that going back that old, that time is like. That's how people became fans is. I remember I grew up in New Jersey and I had no idea what NASCAR was, but I knew there's a black and car with a number three on it that was always.

[E]

There you go.

[A]

And it was like, why did you like Dale Earnhardt? Well, that's the only guy. Every time I turned on ABC and his car's in front of everybody. And I really didn't know much about nascar.

[E]

There you go.

[A]

Became. And I can see where nowadays it's pick the team that wins the most. I like the Yankees, the Dodgers, the. The Lakers.

[F]

The Brewers.

[A]

Yeah, no, don't forget the Brewers.

[F]

Come on, man.

[A]

I'm a Dallas. I'm a Dallas and Lakers fan.

[E]

Like how.

[A]

What you're what? Like, you know.

[E]

So being from Georgia, you would think most people, a lot of Georgia fans, especially nowadays UGA started women winning since Kirby got there. But I. Back then, believe it or not, you could not see them on TV in Georgia. A lot of times the games would be blacked out because it was.

[A]

Remember the knob? Yeah, we had to turn a knob on it. You remember? You don't?

[B]

No. Remember I had an old tv.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I had one.

[A]

We were the remote. Your dad yelled at you to go.

[E]

To turn the world.

[B]

Did not revolve around everybody there. In my house right now, there's at least seven flat screens. TVs you know, there was one main TV and if you're lucky, somewhere else.

[F]

In the house was the old.

[A]

And you only watch what your mom or dad wanted and you had to.

[B]

Go watch the old tv, which was like that.

[F]

Yep.

[C]

Oh, man. I mean, but you know, one of the things. I mean, first of all, my wife is here and I was like super nervous about, you know, First Armed Bass coming here because he was one of the biggest mentors that I ever had as a youngster. It was you and Captain Parks, you know, that was running Charlie Company.

[E]

I still keep in contact.

[C]

I haven't. I haven't talked Captain. I love talking Captain Parks. But like first Armed Bass was a brilliant leader of infantrymen. You have all of these bulls trying and there's egos and everything else, and you're trying to get everybody to go in the right direction so. So that you can get what you need to get done so that you can go to the war. And I have. My poor kids have been subjected to first Armed Bass stories for the last five years.

[B]

Shit. We've been subjected to first Armed Bass stories the last two weeks.

[E]

Oh my.

[B]

What'd you retire out of? Where were you?

[E]

I was at Fort Knight, so I was never stationed at the same place twice. So went to basic training at Fort Benning. Even though they're going back and forth about the naming of it, it's still Fort Benning. I think they changed it back. But they did. Then we.

[B]

You imagine being the poor people with those signs like, yeah, they got to.

[E]

Go back and change the original barracks that went into that too.

[A]

I think the original infantry barracks burned down.

[E]

Well, there's. Are you talking about some of the older. I'm sorry, you're talking about some of the older.

[A]

There was a big fire. I remember betting years ago.

[B]

How many years ago?

[A]

Not terribly.

[C]

I'll look it up.

[A]

That's my job.

[E]

There's a lot. Well, you know, like. Like all bases are some of the. What commonly got called the World War II barracks. But some of those were, you know, are. We're left as antiques, if you will. Some of them were torn down.

[A]

I remember there was a big fire.

[C]

Yeah, that was in 2009. We were on deployment together.

[E]

What.

[C]

What company basic fox 254 alpha 254.

[A]

Echo first get out of town. You know, we're also first of the fifth.

[E]

Small world. I was in Bravo too far. Gators lead the way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Malefoot, my late. My late best friend back. Paul Newborn was actually a drill sergeant. And I didn't know it at the time. In the same company as me. And then I ended up. He got out. I went to be a cop, and then he ended up working.

[B]

Me and Jimmy were in Baghdad together.

[C]

Yeah, well, first arm bass was there, too. He was the first on a Charlie company. I was. I was in B.O.

[B]

We. We replaced 10th Mountain Division.

[A]

We.

[C]

We ripped out with first cab, if I'm not mistaken. First on.

[B]

Somebody said you just changed your accent.

[A]

When he showed up.

[B]

Yeah, I did.

[C]

Well, he's changed his accent the whole story. Well, you know, it's funny because I do the same thing when I listen to Dale Earnhardt Jr. Because I'm a big Dale Jr. Guy. I've been a big Dale Jr. Guy forever.

[E]

Yeah, forever.

[A]

Start speaking Spanish. When you talk to Spanish. Some of these videos.

[C]

It'S like being back in an infantry platoon in this place. All right.

[B]

Hey, we got to check some videos. We. We've been neglecting the Instagram. I don't. I think there's about two more. I want to get them out of the way before we wrap this up.

[A]

Saturday night. Philadelphia, don't forget.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the northeast.

[B]

Saturday night. We'll be in Philly. Come see us. DM us for details.

[A]

I'll be at the casino.

[B]

That one right there. You guys were. Oh, I haven't even watched this yet.

[C]

I. I watched.

[A]

I got sent this, and actually, one.

[B]

We got anti air. Got sent this, like 20 times.

[A]

I got sent by a follower who's begging me to make sure we watched it.

[B]

All right, let's watch it.

[C]

You know, sometimes the things I stumble.

[A]

Upon absolutely shock me.

[D]

Me.

[C]

Like, I am absolutely baffled that we have somebody right now on Title 10.

[A]

Federal orders from the Texas National Guard.

[C]

That'S currently hosting an open forum.

[F]

An open forum for questions on some.

[C]

Random Reddit, on some random Reddit thread. And then on top of that, he's.

[A]

Sending these moderators down there. He's sending the moderators his CAC, which.

[C]

100% breaks OPSEC because a cat. A cat card is replicable, which is why it's such a big deal when.

[A]

You lose it like this. It makes no sense. You guys have zero decision making skills. This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

There you go.

[C]

All right, so here's my question, Sergeant Major.

[B]

Well, here's my question.

[D]

What the.

[B]

Did I just watch?

[E]

Here's my question.

[A]

Why is he sending his CAC around?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So, I mean, I'm assuming that you saw that there was a Deployment of the National Guard over to Chicago. And one of the big pictures was.

[B]

They did the heavy drop.

[C]

Yeah, they did a heavy drop. I mean, that was the heavy drop. Now you were a command sergeant. What was the, what was the highest place that you went to as a command sergeant major?

[E]

So I retired as a division command sergeant major at 1st Army Division East. And it was out of Fort Knox. Okay, so 1st Army Division East, 1st Army's obligation at the time. And I think there's some reducing of the army, some changes being made. United units get turned off, turned on, names get changed, so on and so forth. But our sole purpose was to assist the Guard and the Reserve to prepare for anything the nation called for them to do. So we helped them through their training glide path, which in terms of how long they had, because there's rules. They, you know, so many weekends a month, so many weeks out of the year that they can actually train. So we assisted them to try to close that gap, get them up to speed as quickly as we could. That was the, that was the active component. Folks doing that think of a OCT at the National Training center or at jrotc. Well, we did the same thing in preparation for the Garden of Reserve.

[C]

So I'm assuming you saw that the Secretary of War called all the sergeant majors in. I'm assuming that, yeah. I mean, like you've been in.

[E]

Yeah, I saw some of that. Well, you had, it looked like they had majority of the senior level leadership of the, of the most of what I saw was Army.

[C]

Right.

[E]

I'm not sure if there were other.

[C]

In there, but I mean, so at what point. I mean, I'm not asking you to throw anybody under the bus here, but I mean like that, the optics of that, you know, five days after the, the Secretary of Defense basically says, like, hey, I'm tired of seeing fat troops and God, I was in your company. Like, I, I know how you felt about that. I mean, like, so at what point, you know, there's people on the Internet saying, oh, this is the commander's fault, this is sergeant major's fault. You know, what do you think as a command sergeant Major, where do you think the fault lies at deploying these people that didn't meet the standard? I'm just going to be as polite as I possibly can. Where do you feel like the fault lies?

[E]

Well, in general, the fault lies with anybody that was involved with that individual.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

So I don't know if you remember it or not, but there was a, there was a particular. I'm not Going to call names. So I won't do that because he actually turned out to be a pretty good, pretty good soldier. But he was a corporal. That was the school's NCO that worked at the brigade. I remember it was a little bit healthy. Yeah, well, all the first sergeants had a time with him because as we were trying to get people in school, all of a sudden our stuff would go missing. And this, that and the other thing. Well, I did what I normally did back then and I went and get engaged with the individual one on one, which, you know, you could hear throughout the brigade headquarters. So some Sergeant Major Morgan, I remember Sergeant Major Morgan, who was our battalion CSM but became the brigade csm.

[C]

Yep.

[E]

Said, okay, you know, this, this guy keeps, you know, screwing things up. So I got something for him. So he calls me up on the phone one day, says I'm sending him to you. And I said, okay, Sergeant Major. I said, he's going to meet the standard or he's gone. And he said, well, that's why I'm sending him to you. So he came down, he couldn't pass PT test. So we, you know, went through that process. Bottom line is he got reduced.

[C]

But I remember that happening actually.

[E]

So of all that whole time I was the first sergeant, okay, almost what, three years, I only had to do that with one soldier in that entire company, and that was him. Now he went on, he passed the PT test, he got specialists back, he went on as far as I know, you know, did well, I think he got out of the army, but he met the standard. So what I, why did I tell that story? It's because what has, what somehow got allowed to happen was there's a lot of contributing factors to it. You know, leadership was going 100,000 miles an hour and some cases don't have the time to deal with each and every individual. So at some point in the, what I saw happen, what I believe was that the army began to take away authority, if you will, from, I say, non commissioned officers because we're the ones that are supposed to enforce the standards. And in a lot of ways the junior NCOs and some senior NCOs gave away their authority because it became easier to, okay, well, I'm not going to do it. Sergeant Arnett will do it. Sergeant Arnett's not going to do it, Staff Sergeant so and so do it. You know, so that's, that's how I think we got there. So the bottom line is, is you had too many individuals out there in Leadership roles, not enforcing standards. That's how. That's how you got to where we're at.

[B]

Jimmy, Josh says you should have went to Ranger school.

[C]

Well, first arm. First arm Bass told me I should have gone to Ranger. He had my name on.

[B]

Jimmy, a giant disappointment to you that he didn't go to Ranger school.

[E]

No, none. None of my soldiers are a disappointment.

[B]

You can say it. You can be honest.

[E]

No, he was. No, he. There was.

[B]

Jimmy's like.

[E]

Well, first of all, don't say it. Well, Ranger school is not for everybody. Here's. Yeah, so. So I didn't go to Ranger school. So let me. Let me. Let me. Let me explain why I pushed it so hard.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

So when I joined the Army, I said, hey, what's the fastest way to make rank? Had to go to the infantry and go jump out of airplanes. Well, I did that. While at Fort Benning, I tried to volunteer to go to Ranger Regiment. Well, at that time, they were. They were over capacity. They were too full. They were, like, at 120% strength on junior enlisted. So I couldn't even go to the tryouts. So instead they sent me up to Fort Bragg. When I get there, hey, what's the fastest way range? Make rank. Okay, you need to go to Ranger school, but you need to get your eib. So before I ever got an opportunity to even try out to go to Ranger school, I was getting my eib. Well, I asked my team leader at the time, hey, how can I move up the ranks quickly? Because again, thinking about getting married, going to be taking care of a family, my whole sole purpose in life was providing for them, you know, my wife and then, you know, starting our family together. So the team leader at the time said, hey, you need to go to the Scout platoon, because they. They get all the schools. And so I tried out for the Scouts. This was. By the time I did the EIB thing and everything, this is September of 93. Well, six months later, I was trying out and going to Ranger school. I was a private first class. Well, immediately upon graduating Ranger school, I got automatically promoted to specialist about three months later. About a month and a half later, pinned corporal on. Next thing you know, I'm sitting of. In front, front of a sergeant board. The bottom line is Ranger school kick starts, you know, progression for the infantry. For the infantry, big time. And as long as you come back and you do the things that, you know, were instilled in you in that course and the things are expected of you by, you know, other leaders in the army, and you. And you show that you can demonstrate that and do that and accomplish that, you are going to move through the ranks very quickly. So for me, you know, Ranger school, that. I saw what it did for me, and I wanted to share that, you know, with everybody. Now, the problem was, is one person, you know, I was the only one. There's a lot of people out there, but, you know, in a sense, one person preaching, go to Ranger school. Go to Ranger school. Go to Ranger school. And the mass is preaching, oh, you don't need that. Oh, you don't need soldiers. Oh, you don't need that.

[C]

So that was soldiers totally against Ranger school.

[E]

So. But anyway, it was. It was. It was really for them. I never had one bullet.

[B]

When did you go to Ranger School?

[E]

When? 93, 94. See, May of 94. I graduated August of 94. Man, I recycled the desert. I did it twice.

[C]

Okay, but that was desert. That was when desert phase was the thing. We don't have desert phase no more.

[B]

That's after we realized we thought we weren't going back to Iraq.

[C]

I mean, but, you know, First Arm Bass had a problem, which was that there was a lot of guys. I mean, so you remember Greg Leach?

[B]

Greg.

[C]

Greg was my roommate. And you kicked me and him out of your barracks, and we had to go live off post together, me and Greg and Greg. Greg Troop. I think he True Blue Ranger school, if I'm not mistaken.

[E]

Well, he went straight through.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, he. He went.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Very rare. Yeah. I mean, Greg, you know, ended up in Delta Force. And Greg was like, jimmy, you got to go to Ranger school. Jimmy, you got to go. And I was like, I. Dude, Greg, I already led troops in combat. Like, why do I need Ranger school to tell me I can do it? I already did it.

[A]

That's what the guys who couldn't make SWAT you say, yeah, it will.

[C]

I mean, that was. But that was the argument that First Armed Bass at the time was. Was dealing with was like, well, we have already done this. Like, I don't need a gut shot.

[E]

So what I was trying to tell him to do was, okay, just go get the recognition, because now everybody's going to be able to say the same thing you did. So what sets you apart from everybody else? You know, and eventually, for those that, you know, stay, eventually, selection for sergeant and staff sergeant is done. At the unit level, selection for sergeant first class and above is done, you know, da level. So you've got. There's a process that they go through, but in essence, you've Got a bunch of sergeants major that are looking at everybody's records and voting on those records. And then, you know, you said sergeants Major. Yes, sergeant.

[B]

Too official here.

[C]

Well, he's.

[E]

I spent a long time in there. But anyway, the. What happens is, you know, in that process, in essence, is it racks and stacks soldiers from, you know, one to ever, how many there are. And, you know, whoever number one is, that's the first one that's going to get promoted. So in an infantry world, you know, as you. The more and more senior you get, the less stuff you have on your uniform as a, you know, as an advertisement of who you are, so to speak, then the harder it is for you to. To move up and get promoted.

[C]

And it's the same way in the army today. I mean, Ranger school. Ranger schools is more important today, I believe, than it was during the. The global war on terror when you and I were in. You know, I mean, it's still a.

[E]

Premier leadership school in the Army. And the reason you. I wouldn't necessarily. I wouldn't disagree with what you're saying. I think the reason it's like that now in terms of kind of how society has changed, is Ranger school is not necessarily about technology. And, you know, I mean, don't get me wrong, we still got the latest and greatest, you know, weaponry and need to be able to use it, so on, so forth. But Ranger school is about the individual, right? What can he or she take and then how, you know, what can they accomplish as a leader in that type of environment? Most stressful and most painful thing, you know, they can put on you without really shooting at you. And nowadays, when people are not used to pushing themselves to those kinds of limits, I'd say that's why I agree with what you're saying is, you know, it's becoming even more important to get people to, you know, take that step, kind of put themselves out there and go after something that's difficult.

[B]

We got to start playing some music. We got to start wrapping it up.

[C]

Can I ask one question?

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Let me ask one question first. Art. What was it like?

[E]

Retired.

[C]

Yeah, I know, but I mean, like, it's been almost 20 years. What was it like taking over Charlie Company? I mean, almost all of us were combat vets at that point. You remember coming over?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

How. How hard was that as a leadership challenge?

[E]

Well, anytime you move from one level to the next, there was a certain amount of difficulty because we all want to kind of go back to our comfort zone. So for me, it was you know, one I needed to look for quick wins. How could I earn your guys trust at the same time, you know, what did I need to do to kind of make sure people were doing the right thing? You know, first six months, it was pretty tough. We put some guys out because they were doing the wrong thing. And then the last two years, not one dui, not one drug dealer.

[C]

No, that's a fact.

[E]

Not one drug use, not one domestic violence in a two year period in an infantry company. And I tell them, if you, if you get in a bad way, you call me and I'll come get you. Now these jokers did it one night just to see if I would do it.

[C]

That was schoolcraft and.

[E]

And unfortunately. Yeah, well, God rest his soul. Cullison and the whole crew called me up for the key moves.

[F]

Yep.

[E]

And then I had to drive y' all drive to two Cully's and everybody's house. Yep. It was like two o' clock in the morning.

[C]

Cully lived right around the corner for me and Greg.

[E]

And what happened on Monday? Nobody got in trouble. We talked about the plan and how it failed and then come to find out it was a big joke. But after word got around, hey, first sergeant's not lying, man. He will come get you if you're in a bind. Just don't do the wrong thing and get behind the wheel when you're drinking. So anyway, you're good.

[B]

We gotta, we gotta wrap it up. This is for the late Ace Freely. Oh, you want. No, you can't see it. Oh, there you go. No, you still can't see it. Move.

[C]

You got. You got to get in front of the war hat.

[B]

No, back a little bit more.

[A]

Look, the shave, the rip.

[B]

We give Mike about his legs.

[C]

For sor. If you'd been here sooner.

[E]

Yeah, it's all good. It's all good.

[B]

We'll talk.

[E]

We'll talk offline. Thank for the invite. For sure. So, you know, apologize. I was a little late getting off my second and second job and trying to drive down.

[A]

But anyway, on Only Legs.

[B]

All right, guys, this is where we read the comments. If you got anything to say, say it. If not forever hold your piece.

[C]

I. I want to ask this. Was Jimmy one of your favorites?

[A]

No. No, tell the truth.

[E]

I didn't have a favorite. They were all like my.

[C]

When I came back from sniper school, I came back from the, The Marine scout sniper school. My, my ruck was still red on the bottom and we got done with a road march and I was the first time I Road march with the sniper section. And you came up to me after that road march and you picked my rook up and you're like. And you looked at the bottom and you went, you're better soldier than that. And you just walked away. And I was like, man, I suck. I suck so bad.

[E]

Who blocked Cobb? I don't understand that.

[A]

I don't know. Somebody blocked me. I don't know.

[B]

Trans. He says, get Phillip on here.

[A]

Who blocked me?

[B]

Oh, Phil from trt.

[E]

Oh, Craig.

[A]

Tony blocked me. The sheriff of Broward County.

[B]

Did he?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, you're not allowed to do that either. But he did.

[B]

Somebody said. Somebody said, whoa, Tyler, you have seven.

[C]

So, I mean, just. Just so you know. David. Yes, David. Oh, man, that's gonna be so hard. He was OP4 out at JRTC.

[E]

Really? When were you there?

[A]

96 and 99.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

And then he was in 505th.

[E]

Oh, all right. So the JRTC in Fort Worth. Polk SAR Major. So I got a soft spot for geronima. That was 2016-17. Was the ops group sergeant major. And then I got selected by General Gary Britto, who's. Who's getting ready to retire. Just changed out. He was the TRADOC commander here recently. But General Britto brought me up to be the JRTC and Fort Polk. So I'm actually.

[A]

I was Alpha versus 509. I mean, the job was amazing.

[E]

96 to 99. I was. What rank were you back then?

[A]

I was E4. I never got out. I had a weird three year contract. Yeah, I went in for. They only signed me up for three years. And I remember when I left MEPs, I remember seeing the word OP4 written on my. I had no idea what that meant. I went to basic, got sent out there, and after three years I had the cop job lined up coming back and I was like, man, after having such a cool job for three years, I don't ever want to come back here as a regular army guy. Like, I was like, I'm gone.

[C]

He was supposed to go to. He was supposed to go to Schofield.

[E]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So from that time that you were there though? I was at. I was at Bragg from 93 to 97 and then from 97 to. Were you there one I was. Went to RTB.

[C]

Were you there when. First time Ballinger was there. Did you know first on Ballinger then.

[E]

Yeah. Would Ballinger.

[A]

I went.

[E]

He was in the gimlets in one two one as a sergeant first class. When I was a platoon sergeant. We went to a knock together.

[C]

First Sergeant Ballinger was awesome.

[E]

Yeah. Love that dude.

[C]

I, I mean, I, I, she's talked to him, I've talked to him. But like, you know, he's, you know, doesn't talk much.

[E]

No, he doesn't. Not much. And he was. Same way when we were in school. Same way you know, throughout the time that I, I knew him, you know, as Burger. And still to this day, you get very little out of him on social media. But when the dude speaks, man, you need, people need to listen.

[C]

He, he, he gives you like one.

[E]

Or two words and that's all you need.

[B]

We gotta wrap it up, guys. Thanks for joining us. Another Thursday night squadcast might be one of the last squadcasts.

[A]

We'll see Brandon Day at 11.

[B]

Monday, 11:11 Eastern Time. Come join us for the broadcast. We'll see you guys then. Thanks.