Squadcast (Live) 01/16/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: Squadcast (Live) – January 16, 2025

Overview

In the January 16, 2025 live episode of The Antihero Podcast, hosts Tyler Hoover, Brent Tucker, Kenny Williams, and Drew engage in a robust discussion centered around the escalating Benghazi controversy. The episode features dynamic interactions with listeners through Super Chats, delving into critical analyses of law enforcement challenges, particularly drug interdiction, and scrutinizing media narratives surrounding veterans and first responders.

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Addressing the Benghazi Controversy

The episode kicks off with Tyler Hoover introducing the primary focus: the Benghazi situation, which has intensified over the past week. [00:44] He acknowledges the team's exhaustion despite his recent vacation, highlighting personal and professional strains.

A pivotal moment occurs when a team member's contentious Twitter post questioning the Benghazi narrative sparks backlash. [04:21] Tyler recounts, "When a member of our team made a Twitter post and pretty much said, 'prove that you're not lying'... I told that person to take it down, because any type of thing that's going to come out like that is going to come from me or Brent." This incident underscores the delicate balance the hosts maintain in handling sensitive topics while managing their public image.

Super Chats and Online Reactions

The live format allows listeners to submit Super Chats, which immediately influence the conversation. Kenny Williams reflects on the dual nature of Super Chats, noting, "The Super Chats get us in a lot of trouble." [02:38] This sentiment highlights the challenges of engaging with a passionate audience while navigating the pitfalls of public discourse.

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing disputes arising from listener comments, especially those involving David Hookstead. [06:08] Kenny elaborates on how misinterpretations of their statements led to personal attacks, emphasizing the importance of clarity and direct communication: "You better come to our podcast and see exactly what I said and not listen to what other podcasts said I said."

Critique of Media Narratives and Veterans' Integrity

The discussion pivots to critique media figures like Tim Kennedy and Sean Ryan, with Kenny expressing frustration over perceived misinformation and lack of accountability. [10:24] He asserts, "If you don't know that Rob O'Neill isn't lying about killing Bin Laden, then you've never met a Navy SEAL, apparently..." This segment underscores the hosts' commitment to uncovering truths and challenging established narratives within veteran communities.

Tyler reinforces the podcast's mission, clarifying its identity and intent: "This podcast is two people, Brent Tucker, owner of First Responders Coffee Company, and Tyler Hoover, owner of Refractive Wolf Apparel." [11:01] This distinction emphasizes their dedication to providing unfiltered truth and contrasts themselves with other media outlets they perceive as less credible.

Law Enforcement Insights: Kenny Williams' Experiences

Kenny Williams shares firsthand insights from his career in drug interdiction, detailing extensive seizures that illustrate the scale of America's drug problem: "2,400 ounces of promethazine codeine, 4,200 prescription pills, 9,100 doses..." [22:40] His narrative provides a gritty look into the daily realities and challenges faced by law enforcement officers combating substance abuse and trafficking.

He critiques systemic issues within policing, attributing understaffed departments and poor culture to broader societal failures: "It's your fault they're understaffed. You have a crappy culture..." [58:45] This analysis calls for introspection and reform within law enforcement agencies to better address community safety and efficacy.

Listener Interactions and Personal Stories

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with various listener stories submitted via Super Chats, ranging from commendations to criticisms of law enforcement actions. A poignant tribute to Sergeant Butler, who was tragically killed while saving a family, underscores the selfless nature of first responders: "Prayers go out to Sergeant Butler and his family." [97:47]

Another significant listener story involves a traffic stop that escalated into a deadly encounter, highlighting the unpredictable dangers of routine police work: "If you have to call it in, but it seems like you'd be in a hurry to go check on the people you just rear-ended..." [60:06] These narratives illustrate the high-stakes environment law enforcement operates within and the thin line between routine and crisis.

Memorable Law Enforcement Experiences

Brent Tucker recounts one of his most memorable detentions: a traffic stop that unveiled a triple homicide, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of police work and the need for vigilance: "I stopped these two guys... they had two guns or a gun and two pounds of weed." [55:16]

Kenny complements this by discussing the intense training required for drug interdiction and the psychological toll it takes on officers. He stresses the necessity for comprehensive training programs to equip law enforcement with the skills needed to handle high-pressure situations effectively: "You have to dig deep to find the right guy." [40:24]

Critiques of Law Enforcement Culture and Accountability

The conversation delves into broader critiques of law enforcement culture, with Kenny highlighting how political and cultural factors contribute to departmental inefficiencies and misconduct: "Every person you take in the train is a person off the street. Not securing their community." [58:27] This critique extends to the societal pressures and cultural expectations placed on officers, urging for a re-evaluation of values and support systems within policing bodies.

Honoring Heroes and Reflecting on Loss

The episode concludes with heartfelt acknowledgments to fallen heroes, such as Sergeant Butler, reinforcing the podcast's dedication to honoring those who serve and sacrifice: "That's a true fucking warrior right there." [98:07] The hosts emphasize the importance of remembering and honoring the sacrifices made by first responders, encouraging listeners to support and respect those in enforcing roles.

Conclusion

This episode of The Antihero Podcast offers a comprehensive exploration of the Benghazi controversy, the intricate challenges faced by law enforcement, and the pervasive influence of media narratives on public perception. Through candid discussions, personal anecdotes, and engaged listener interactions, Tyler Hoover and his co-hosts deliver a nuanced narrative on truth, accountability, and the relentless pursuit of justice within the realms of law enforcement and veteran communities.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tyler Hoover [04:21]: "When a member of our team made a Twitter post and pretty much said, 'prove that you're not lying'... I told that person to take it down, because any type of thing that's going to come out like that is going to come from me or Brent."

• Kenny Williams [02:38]: "The Super Chats get us in a lot of trouble."

• Kenny Williams [10:24]: "If you don't know that Rob O'Neill isn't lying about killing Bin Laden, then you've never met a Navy SEAL, apparently..."

• Kenny Williams [22:40]: "2,400 ounces of promethazine codeine, 4,200 prescription pills, 9,100 doses..."

• Kenny Williams [58:45]: "It's your fault they're understaffed. You have a crappy culture..."

• Tyler Hoover [11:01]: "This podcast is two people, Brent Tucker, owner of First Responders Coffee Company, and Tyler Hoover, owner of Refractive Wolf Apparel."

• Kenny Williams [97:47]: "Prayers go out to Sergeant Butler and his family."

• Brent Tucker [55:16]: "I stopped these two guys... they had two guns or a gun and two pounds of weed."

• Kenny Williams [40:24]: "You have to dig deep to find the right guy."

• Kenny Williams [98:07]: "That's a true fucking warrior right there."

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This structured summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting key discussions, insights, and significant quotes with appropriate timestamps. It provides a comprehensive overview suitable for those who haven't listened to the podcast, ensuring clarity and engagement without delving into advertisements or non-content segments.

Transcript

[Tyler Hoover]

Welcome back to another Thursday Night Live. Thursdays is for the boys, and we have a hell of an episode, as you can see by the thumbnail. We've had a long week. Even though most of my week was on vacation, it was still stressful somehow. Brent's had a day from hell. Everyone's eating. It's the same thing every Thursday. We're like, we're gonna be fucking ready at 8. And it turns out you're at the drive through in Taco Bell at 7:57, so. But we got a hell of a show for you. We're gonna address the Benghazi thing. And, you know, we got some other things that we're gonna talk about, I guess probably the thing that we. That we mentioned. I'm gonna hit him with.

[Brent Tucker]

Works for me.

[Tyler Hoover]

Get you fresh. Fresh reaction to it. Got some videos. Got some good videos, too. So stay. Stay tuned. And let's hit it. Let's. Let's hit the big. The big discussion.

[Kenny Williams]

What. What's that?

[Tyler Hoover]

What you said they got.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm not tracking it.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm tracking six words. That's all I said. That's all I heard.

[Drew]

The big discussion. Wipe from the front or from the back?

[Kenny Williams]

That was. Are we still talking about sitting down to pee?

[Drew]

It's another week.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, we got Kenny Williams here. He just recorded one of our studio sessions that'll be coming out. I don't know about this Monday, but Either this Monday or next Monday. But, yeah, he tells the story about drug interdiction and his career and how drugs plague America and there's nothing we can do about it.

[Brent Tucker]

It wasn't that fucking.

[Kenny Williams]

Those were your words.

[Tyler Hoover]

Those were your words.

[Kenny Williams]

There's nothing we can do.

[Tyler Hoover]

There's already gonna be three fucking videos about it before it even comes out.

[Brent Tucker]

Just quits. Let them all in.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right, well, we're all waiting on you, Brett. Burt.

[Drew]

Well, there is a bet on Super Chats.

[Tyler Hoover]

There's a bet?

[Drew]

Yeah. Well, first off, right wing nut comes right out with 50 bucks. Tonto. Never heard of her.

[Kenny Williams]

This. And this is how.

[Tyler Hoover]

This is how you guys get us in trouble.

[Kenny Williams]

I know real. Hey, let's be honest. And. And I love it. I'm not. I'm not saying don't do it. The Super Chats get us in a lot of trouble.

[Tyler Hoover]

They do.

[Kenny Williams]

They got us.

[Tyler Hoover]

Well, the Dan Crenshaw.

[Kenny Williams]

The. The Dan Crenshaw one was funny. The. Not apologizing for it. But that started as a super chat. The. Sean Ryan was funny. He didn't care and he didn't care, but other people cared. And. And I don't know. I just watched a. A podcast with that one of The Magazi guys, MiG was. Was on there, and he was. He was talking about these guys even go after Sean Ryan. Like, no, we didn't go after Sean Ryan. A super chat. Made a super funny joke. And. And that's.

[Tyler Hoover]

We're like Batman. We're the heroes you need. All right, So I know what. What had happened was. All right. This Benghazi thing has spun out of control in the last five days. Like I said, I was in the Poconos coming off our Philly show, and I'm just sitting in a nice house cabin up in the mountains watching the snowfall, and everybody's fucking yelling at us on Twitter, and it's. Brent's gonna get into what it all really stemmed from. But it picked up some juice.

[Kenny Williams]

So unnecessary and added traction.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yes. When a member of our team made a Twitter post and pretty much said, prove. Prove that you're not lying. And then went to say, like, see Tim Kennedy, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's there. It's out there. I had seen it. And I told that person to take it down, because any type of thing that's going to come out like that is going to come from me or Brent, right? That way I can back it up and Brent can back it up. It wasn't anything. We weren't upset or mad or anything. It was just. I saw it. Hey, don't do that. It's gotta come from me and Brent. And they were like, okay, cool. Sorry, My bad.

[Kenny Williams]

We'll pick our own fights.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, yeah, we have enough. And that got screenshotted and saved, and it's out there, and, I mean, I'll send anybody that wants to see it. And then we had to answer for it. And we also had to answer why it was taken down. Like we were backtracking. Let the record be straight. We don't backtrack anything. That wasn't something that we put out a team. Somebody on our team put it out. It's since been addressed. It won't happen again. And other than that, you know, I told somebody in our. In our inboxes, that's on team Benghazi, guys. You know, he was pretty cool when I. When I. When I calmed him down, I was like, hey, this is what happened. He was like, you. You better address it on the live. I was like, we are relax. If I remember. Which at that time, I was like, I might not remember, but it's Blown out of proportion so much now that that's what happened. But the origins of this whole thing. I'm gonna let Brent explain that the.

[Kenny Williams]

Origins was a super chat. Asked me about Benghazi. The last thing I remember hearing about Benghazi and honestly, what stuck in my mind speaking of Sean Ryan, was when Pronto was on the Sean Ryan show, he said, you know, the Delta guys didn't do anything. They wouldn't replace us. We needed water. We need. Like they weren't doing anything. So when someone asked me about the Benghazi story, I just said I heard a different story. I didn't call anyone a liar. I said, I heard a different story. I don't know why I can't say I heard a different story without. And I guess lesson learned for me that without everything absolutely blowing up. That is what I said. But Valhalla took it and run with it. No issues with him. That is what I said. But here's, here's where it gets taken out of context. David Hookstead said it, you know, and took it and said benghazi guys getting called out. I just said, I heard a different story. Now when I call you a liar and I do a three hour episode on you, you'll know what my stance is. You guys have no idea how many, how many people we get told to look into, how many people we've looked into and never did a podcast about it. And doesn't mean they were all clean. They just weren't enough to do a podcast. You know, you can't look like you're, you know, being petty just, just for clout. So there, there's the answer. There is as of now, the official answer from me. I'm gonna say what I said again, which is I heard a different story. Now that being said, these guys went on an absolute rage tangent off of that I somewhat understand because they didn't hear it from me. They heard it from all the podcasts that said that took that and was like, oh, well, the Delta Force guy is saying that they're lying. And, and now it's a big controversy. And I, and I saw on the, the podcast that, that, that Tigger did with what I can't remember the name of the.

[Tyler Hoover]

I love the power move. You're over two on their names. What's. It's Tonto, right?

[Kenny Williams]

Poncho.

[Tyler Hoover]

They're just kidding. Relax, everybody.

[Kenny Williams]

If you guys haven't seen our show before, we joke. No one gets my name right. And it's a hilarious joke. Tick, I saw you say that you're going to be watching our show to see. To see what we said about it. And so there. There's. There's. There's what I said, and. But there's what. There's. There's way more. You called me a douchebag, and you don't even know what I said. You also said that these guys make a living tearing, you know, tearing down other people and that we had guests on to back up our Tim Kennedy story that weren't even there. Now, he said that. Now I have a problem because you took this completely out of context. You didn't come to me and ask anything for clarification, and that's okay. I don't always go to people for clarification. But you better come to our podcast and see exactly what I said and not listen to what other podcasts said I said. I said I heard a different story. And so for you to start calling me names and for you to say, question our integrity and say that we had guests that weren't even on the ground with Tim Kennedy is a. Now that's a lie. Now I'm saying you lied. We had three of his teammates that were on the ground with them. So just the way I clarified things, I expect you to go back on that podcast, and I expect you to clarify things like a man. And, And I've tried. You guys can reach out to me anytime. And it's funny.

[Tyler Hoover]

We're really easy to get a hold of.

[Kenny Williams]

We've, We've. We've always offered that. I've offered it to Rob O'Neill. I've offered it to Tim Kennedy. Here's a, here's, here's. Here's another thing. If you don't know that Rob O'Neill isn't lying about killing Bin Laden, then you've never met a Navy seal, apparently, and I know you have. If you don't know that Tim Kennedy is a massive liar by now, then if you don't know that, you probably shouldn't weigh in because you look really bad right now saying that we had people on the podcast that weren't even with him, even though you kept calling him Ted Kennedy. And I hope that was a power move on your part, mispronouncing his name. And if so, that's hilarious.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. And. All right, so we're gonna kind of like, make. Make it known that this podcast. We said it a long time ago, but we'll reiterate. This podcast is two people, right? It's Brent Tucker, owner of First Responders Coffee company, and it's Tyler Hoover, owner of Refractive Wolf Apparel. We meet in the middle on a podcast. If I say anything from me or my apparel line that doesn't reflect Brent at all, that's just me. I'm not gonna go and say anything so detrimental that it weighs on Brent's reputation, but I'm me, so. You know, like, when Jonathan Travels got all mad because I got his name wrong. I mean, I'm sorry, dude, that's his name, right? Johnston Travels, but I think it's Jameson Travel. Oh, damn it.

[Drew]

That's it.

[Kenny Williams]

He's. He has. The guy has a million followers. How can you not get.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't know.

[Kenny Williams]

Right?

[Tyler Hoover]

But that.

[Kenny Williams]

I mean, which I'm a fan of, by the way. I watch his stuff.

[Tyler Hoover]

I do, too.

[Kenny Williams]

And I'm hoping that he does a. A breakdown of our latest Tim Kennedy podcast. He's been. He's. He's been. He's broken down the other ones, so I hope he does. And if he does, I'm going to watch it.

[Drew]

Hey, I got four kids mean the world to me. I can't get their name straight. Don't nobody feel bad.

[Tyler Hoover]

But, yeah, it was the person in our dms that was. I kind of like. He said he was a spokesperson for Tig or Tonto. I get that mixed up. But he said, well, it's nothing but a plane ticket to Orlando. And that is absolutely true. We have never once said that somebody can't come. We've begged people to come on our show and clear the air. They won't do it. But coming on here and having a great podcast where we talk about everything and we let. That doesn't mean that it's like, well, now it's. It's sealed. It can't be looked into anymore. And so, that being said, an investigation. As a cop, I know an investigation takes a long time. Kenny, how long does an investigation take?

[Brent Tucker]

A long time.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. So if you want to look into something and be good at what you're doing and present something in a foolproof manner, it's gonna take some time. I'm telling you right now. Brent has. No. I'm saying this because you told me there's not going to be a quick turnaround on the Benghazi thing. It's going to stay just like it was, where it's something that we may or may not look into. We may or may not do a podcast on it.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm not done with Tim Kennedy. Let me make that very clear.

[Tyler Hoover]

Can we go back to Tim Kennedy.

[Kenny Williams]

The only the world was a better place. There's. There's. The only person happy about this right now is Tim King. Thank God those guys aren't messing with me anymore because they've been tearing me up. And so this is. We have another fresh podcast to do with Tim Kennedy on the rest of his book. If. If not. If not too. And for you guys who want to come down here and talk and talk about it, there's nothing to talk about. If you guys want to come down here and hang out, absolutely. I haven't done an investigation. I haven't made the first call. I haven't read your book. I don't have anything to. To question you guys on. But don't worry. If I do and if I find anything that's interesting of me, I will call you the same way I called Tim.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yep.

[Kenny Williams]

If you choose to talk to me, That's. That's up to you, and I hope you do. You guys are. You guys are trying to paint me as. As this person that I'm not. You don't even know me. You haven't even looked into any of our body of work. You're just as bad as anyone else. And it's really ironic because you blame. You kind of. You compared us to the left. Like, oh, these guys are just like the left. And, and, and, and the way the things they do. Tyler is actually. That's kind of what you're doing right now. You're speaking off of emotions and not facts. So give me a call. Send your. Send your. I'll make it real easy. Email us your phone number. Email us your phone number. I'll call you tonight.

[Tyler Hoover]

We'll post Brents online right now. Oh, and that's what. That's not.

[Kenny Williams]

What's the email and info and info at. [e-mail] info@antihero podcast.

[Tyler Hoover]

I will say in their tangent not cool move, they attempted to post David Hookstead's address online. Now, luckily, it's an old address, but who did? Tig. They posted his address. So not cool, man.

[Kenny Williams]

Why would you do that?

[Tyler Hoover]

But you know, someone's safety.

[Kenny Williams]

But you know what? Call me. I'm not going to do the same thing that you did to me. Call me. I'll ask you why you did that.

[Tyler Hoover]

Before we move on to the newest in the Tim Kennedy saga, we got some super chats to read. And one of them I took a screenshot because I lost it. It was at the very beginning. So I'll just read it real quick. Before we even came on Tyler. Mr. Coolant, how would law enforcement handle the following in your backwoods of podunk Florida? And you believe you see Bigfoot, you shoot it. But it's a person in a suit charges. Yes. You are going to get charged with shooting somebody in a Bigfoot suit. All right, just wanted to get that one out there. Are we caught up or are we.

[Drew]

Yeah, I think we missed one. Possibly. But we got to keep moving forward here with what we do have. Derek, Patrick. Hey, CAG Daddy. I'll bet you 350 Tim Kennedy knows Jesus personally.

[Kenny Williams]

I hope so.

[Tyler Hoover]

350.

[Kenny Williams]

I hope he does.

[Tyler Hoover]

Morgan Freeman donated two hours.

[Drew]

Even people who know Jesus don't do the right thing all the time. Let's see. My kids are a perfect example. Morgan Freeman, two bucks.

[Tyler Hoover]

And I donated two dollars to their podcast.

[Kenny Williams]

Thank you. I'll take it.

[Drew]

Cripple Tron. Hey, Brian, what's the longest. What's the longest you've maintained a sniper position? What was your toughest sniper position? What do you do if you have to shit or get attacked by hornets or ants?

[Kenny Williams]

Most of my like actual like real world mission sniper positions were fairly quick. The longest I've had to maintain one was the International Special Operations Sniper Competition. And I got into my position at like 3 or 4 in the morning after guess and it was freezing in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and I had to stay there until first light. It doesn't seem like really long, but when you're 150 meters out from target it. You can't move a muscle and it's freezing. When I finally took that shot and was able to. To move away, none of my limbs worked. None of my limbs were gross.

[Tyler Hoover]

Motor skills, every.

[Kenny Williams]

Everything fell asleep. All my fingers were numb. When I pulled the trigger, I didn't even know I pulled the trigger. It's a blank and you have to re. You have to reenact that shooting that live round on the range. So this is just a blank. I don't even know I shot. I mean I was. I was trying to shoot the gun, but I couldn't even feel.

[Tyler Hoover]

You did squeeze. You pulled.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. It was absolutely miserable.

[Drew]

And what have you got to do if you got a poop or you're attacked by hornets or ants at the.

[Tyler Hoover]

Same time as pooping or.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Did they. Was it two separate questions or did they merge?

[Drew]

Merged.

[Kenny Williams]

If you're in a real sniper position, which, and you know, some other guys haven't for a long time, you're gonna have two People there. So you're gonna slowly, you know, see your way out and go poop somewhere and come back.

[Tyler Hoover]

Do you, like, roll over and, like, poop and then roll back over?

[Kenny Williams]

If my sniper buddy just rolled over and pooped, we better be, like, right on the verge of taking a shot. Like, I get that. But if we're here for the next three days, Are you serious? You're getting a bro, are you serious Moment. You're gonna pick that up with your hands and you're gonna take it back somewhere. I have to smell that for the next three days.

[Tyler Hoover]

Low crawl that poop back.

[Kenny Williams]

That's right.

[Drew]

That's evidence. Why? SOF is a young man's game. You know, you gotta be able to hold your poop.

[Tyler Hoover]

You know, in all reality, fire ants, they're a very, very common problem.

[Kenny Williams]

Not in the Middle east, they're not.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, that's true. In the wilderness of Fort Brag, Mr.

[Drew]

Tech, 1911, I sold all my toilet seats to afford the super chat. I never sit down to piss. I don't sit down to poop either. That's a man. Because he doesn't have a seat.

[Kenny Williams]

That's who I expect in our super chats. It's a man.

[Drew]

He's a hover pooper. TK actually found Hitler. True story.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm sure if you ask God.

[Drew]

Yeah. Sent you an email requesting an invite to come to your new studio. Bobby Musala.

[Kenny Williams]

Then Bobby will see you here.

[Drew]

All right, Bobby.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, dude, we got. We have two Patreon members in studio with us right now.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay, glad to have them.

[Drew]

Creature 96, sending some pounds. Burnt Taylor, middle guy, is it true Delta just played Xbox whilst Benghazi unfolded? What do you think they were playing? Halo or COD came here. What's that?

[Kenny Williams]

Call of Duty.

[Drew]

Call of Duty Nerd Hookstead has new footage of TK saying about Medals of Honor, Medals of Valor, what mustache is best?

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, we got the video. We'll talk about the video.

[Kenny Williams]

We'll talk about in a second. I would tell you I heard a different story than what you just said, but apparently I don't want every soft veteran podcast taking those words and running with it. So I'm just gonna say, I don't know that you fool me once.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. And the middle guy, we said it before, but we got 2k in now. This is Kenny Williams. He's host of beyond the Barrel podcast. He's a interdiction cop, which, you know, kind of. And a canine cop, so. But he's super quiet. He's very humble.

[Brent Tucker]

I don't have anything to talk about.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm not getting involved.

[Tyler Hoover]

What do you think about the Gandhi?

[Brent Tucker]

I don't know. Whatever the book says, it's good to me.

[Tyler Hoover]

He doesn't want to get caught up in a fucking YouTube.

[Drew]

We just did an awesome recording of a lot of things that he's done in his career and we're looking forward to that coming out.

[Kenny Williams]

Absolutely. Give me your phone again. Yeah, I know.

[Tyler Hoover]

If you guys, if you guys could go give him a subscribe on his YouTube beyond the Barrel podcast. He is part of Counterculture Inc. The media company that we started with like minded podcasts that don't mind ruffling feathers. Beyond the Barrel is part of that is actually one of the first ones to be on along with anti her podcast and the Unbecoming podcast and Donut Shop podcast which were the original four. I think we're up to. We're officially up to eight or nine pending. Officially pending. Probably 12 podcasts.

[Brent Tucker]

Damn, that's awesome.

[Tyler Hoover]

So we're gonna have bloggers. We got three people now that want to write and cover stories based off their. The way they see things and they're very interesting people and they have very different takes on it. And as long as it's true, the information is true, I do not care about their opinions on it. That's the whole point of a blog. It is somewhat opinionated as long as the facts are there.

[Kenny Williams]

Let me tell you what Kenny Williams, AKA Red Ninja has done as a interdiction law enforcement officer.

[Tyler Hoover]

Why'd you say dick Tion.

[Kenny Williams]

He put the dick in interdiction.

[Tyler Hoover]

Didn't you sign it down?

[Kenny Williams]

2,400 ounces of promethazine codeine, 4,200 prescription pills, 9,100 doses. Dosage units MDMA 76 pounds of fentanyl, 13,500 fentanyl pills, 4 kilos car fentanyl, 54 pounds of heroin, 127 pounds of cocaine, 2 pounds of crack, 78 pounds of meth, 6 kilos of fake dope. Four hundred and twenty two pounds of synthetic marijuana. Almost 6,000 pounds of marijuana. One hundred and fifty marijuana plants. $7.3 million in cash, seizures and 1 kilo of gold. That's. That's a good work. That's good work.

[Brent Tucker]

Embarrassing.

[Kenny Williams]

We're also embarrassing. You know how many people haven't, haven't died from fentanyl because. Because of you? Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

No, no, those are.

[Tyler Hoover]

Were all the marijuana plants on the same bus or were they different?

[Brent Tucker]

Same. Same car.

[Tyler Hoover]

I like it. That's A big ass car.

[Brent Tucker]

They're seedlings. Yay big.

[Kenny Williams]

So they're plants.

[Drew]

Zeta says just to make sure this isn't forgotten from last live via Taylor Goober. The Delta Force killed my dad and took a dump in the living room. Tyler kills me every time. Eat crayons, gentlemen. Thank you, Zaya.

[Kenny Williams]

Or did you read the one before.

[Drew]

We read that one.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, well, they did want to know what mustache is best?

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, there's only one answer to. Well, there's two.

[Tyler Hoover]

The Fu Manchu.

[Kenny Williams]

The handlebar for sure is up there. Call me crazy. I like like how Joe has like the old if. If I could get my mustache to curl like that. I think that's.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

Super cool.

[Drew]

If you're going to wear a stash, you got to do something.

[Kenny Williams]

Yes. You want a cigar and that circle mustache. And I end up biting. I end up biting my mustache. It'll never get there.

[Drew]

Brian Johnson wants to know who is Tigger?

[Kenny Williams]

He's. He's one of the guys from Benghazi.

[Drew]

Character on Winnie the Pooh.

[Tyler Hoover]

He's friends with Pronto, Tigger and Pronto. Did you call him Poncho earlier or.

[Kenny Williams]

Is it Tag and Poncho?

[Tyler Hoover]

It's. What are the guys from Chips.

[Kenny Williams]

And John Poncho Summerlli. Oh, I'm really close to actually getting his name. Poncho.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, man.

[Kenny Williams]

Come on, Patreon, help me out.

[Drew]

Chips Patrol. Great introduction to that TV show.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Josh Green. 100 bucks. This is a comfy couch. Josh Green's here.

[Tyler Hoover]

I didn't know that it was Green.

[Drew]

Some of you who aren't Patreon members need to sacrifice your $5 coffee a month. Whoa. And join the Patreon and support this team doing Lord's work. Well, yeah, sacrifice that $5 if you're not buying FRCC. I'll tell you that much.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hey, you know Josh, can I say what Patreon, you left?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Josh left Sean Ryan's Patreon and went to ours because we tell the truth. And Sean, this is from Josh. This is not from me. He says, Sean Ryan does not backtrack enough. Not backtrack, doesn't review things that he's put out there. And we put out the truth. And that's why he wanted to take his $5 elsewhere.

[Kenny Williams]

You know what? Because you're a Patreon member, I'll only tell it to you personally and not on this whole thing, but there may be, you know, some new news to that. And remind me after this podcast to tell you what that is.

[Tyler Hoover]

If you donate $500, we'll tell you.

[Kenny Williams]

Give gift. Give Sean some time.

[Drew]

All right, Papa Penguin. Y'all are making your bones by calling out people for lying, making a vague comment, and then being surprised. Fanboys or the people you mentioned get in a twist about it. It's seriously naive. Or master move.

[Tyler Hoover]

You're welcome.

[Kenny Williams]

I wish we were that smart, to be honest with you. I. I am a little naive about that. I did not think that I heard a different story was going to put the Internet in a tizzy. So, yeah, I'm a little naive about that.

[Tyler Hoover]

Well, they're kind of. I mean, they're enjoying it, too. I mean, every. Everyone's getting a piece of the pie that Brent baked, but, I mean, the other YouTube channels are getting their views. They're getting their subscribers. Ponch and Tigger are fucking. They're out ranting and raving and being on podcasts and getting their interviews. And some random broad that was on Shawn Ryan's weighing in on things. I guess she wrote the book.

[Kenny Williams]

Gosh. Sarah Abrams. Sarah Abrams went in and went off the rail.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is that really her name as well?

[Kenny Williams]

And the first name's Right, the. But what. You know, I. I don't know. She started going on and on again about things that I didn't even mention. So, Tara, you can call me, too. And I will, and I will. And I will talk to you as well and extend the same olive branch to you to say, call me rather than just go off the rails. Maybe they even went to start threatening, like lawyers if. If we came out and said anything.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, I just.

[Kenny Williams]

Anyway, that reminded me something. I was going to say. Oh. Because of. Of. Of what we've done. And. And I get it. And speaking to the naive thing about it, we made a comment, and I'll keep this fairly vague intentionally. Someone in the Super Chat. Super Chats asked us about a Medal of Honor winner, and I said, I don't know, like, it bet. Like, you go after a Medal of Honor winner, it better be airtight and blatant. Okay, but in the day, the truth is the truth. I said, but I don't know anyone in that community, so, you know, chances are really hard for me to even, you know, go down that road. That Medal of Honor winner had a friend reach out, and I'm not mad at that.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is this new?

[Kenny Williams]

No, no. And just say, hey, Like, I've probably said too much, actually.

[Tyler Hoover]

Dang it.

[Kenny Williams]

Dang this live. I don't know. And say, hey, like, oh, yeah. Are you about to Go after this guy. I'm like, no, no. Like, I answered. You know, I answered the. You know, the first part of the question and, you know, like. But that. But if they'd have heard the whole statement, which was, I have. I don't even know. I don't know anyone in that community. I haven't made a call. I'm not looking into to anyone. I don't know how to say this, guys. You will know when we have an issue with someone.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, we're pretty.

[Kenny Williams]

We're pretty good about making it crystal clear when we have an issue with someone.

[Tyler Hoover]

And break, break, break, break. This is now Tyler talking. Dakota Meyer is a chode. He is. I don't. I'm not even going to put liar out there.

[Kenny Williams]

Why would you say that?

[Tyler Hoover]

But he is arrogant, full of himself, just like everybody else out there insulting people. And he's one of the blue mark mafia that went straight to defending TK and you wonder, why would somebody go defend Tim Kennedy? And you look, and they're in business together. Imagine that.

[Kenny Williams]

What do they do together?

[Tyler Hoover]

They run like a. Is it a company where they do background checks for gun owners? Put magnet on the spot. No, no, I know. I'm saying that, like, they. Tim Kennedy is an advocate of which, right, wrong or indifferent. He's an advocate of people with, you know, getting background checks on firearms. I think a lot of people on some scale can agree with that, but I think their business is together. I can Google it.

[Kenny Williams]

You know what? I'll say this as well. Tyler said what he said, Dakota, if you hear this because someone sends it to you, give me a call. I'll talk to you.

[Drew]

Oil field trash.

[Tyler Hoover]

Still a joke.

[Kenny Williams]

Please, I will talk to you.

[Drew]

Please help stand up for my brother, John Chapman.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, gosh. Did you hear about that?

[Tyler Hoover]

No. Well, I saw some DMs about it.

[Kenny Williams]

This is how you want to talk about. They. You know, the. The Navy did a. A Medal of Honor, like, museum, and so they basically left Chapman out, which some may argue.

[Tyler Hoover]

And.

[Kenny Williams]

And let's. Let's be honest here. Before you get all mad. I have two sides of this story. It is a Navy SEAL Medal of Honor museum. Okay? Chapman wasn't a seal There. You. Whether you like that answer or not, you have to. You have to understand that is part of that. That is a part of it.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

And they did give him space, like, in. In, like, the rotation thing, kind of like an honorable mention, but it was really small. And so if that's their argument, I hate to say it. I don't like it. That is opinion based and it is a Navy SEAL museum. The other thing is this guy gave his life and earned the Medal of Honor arguably twice on a Navy SEAL mission to defend Navy seals. And we can't ignore the fact of, you know, all the drama that came with it, with them trying. With the Navy trying to hide it, you know, keep it under wraps because it wasn't a pretty story. So no wonder, like they're not going to want necessarily that. That story in their museum because it's not flattering, you know, to the Navy.

[Tyler Hoover]

So why didn't you think about it?

[Kenny Williams]

So why would they have that? Why would you intentionally have a non flattering story in there? Of course the argument would be for. For transparency, but doing the right thing.

[Tyler Hoover]

What?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, I know. I clearly, if you're asking me, in my personal opinion, it's cut and dry. My gosh, you gotta have Chapman in that museum. He saved lives. But. But they didn't. And it just feels like to some people that there the Navy goes again, you know.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Kenny Williams]

Suppress the story.

[Tyler Hoover]

Matt Cubber just texted me in his Matt Cubler ways. He said he needs to correct that or he will get a ton of. It's the National Medal of Honor Museum in Arlington, Texas.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, it. Thank you, Matt. It was. It's not even the Navy SEAL museum. This is the.

[Tyler Hoover]

He's text me in real time, but we're 10 seconds ahead of what they're seeing in this text.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay, Magnet, please help me out. Can. Can you. You can look at his face like. What the. Never mind. Josh, can you help me out? Google that and let me know what that museum is. If it's a Navy SEAL museum or if it's a Medal of Honor museum.

[Tyler Hoover]

Josh came to hang out. Now he's working.

[Kenny Williams]

Well, now I'm. I'm make him a part of the team.

[Drew]

All right, next trip, chat. If TK really wants a Bronze Star, all he needs to do is stock the candy machines at Seal Team 2.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't get it.

[Kenny Williams]

Just.

[Drew]

They don't eat candy.

[Tyler Hoover]

Just a jab at everybody.

[Kenny Williams]

Ah, the Bronze Star service award is just. Was just given out to anyone that deployed this.

[Drew]

Let's see. Random frog. This country from top to bottom needs to have a serious conversation and reckoning with itself regarding truth and accountability. Left, right. We have lost our way and our ability to accept reality. You ain't wrong.

[Kenny Williams]

You're not wrong.

[Drew]

Well, there's a few of us out.

[Kenny Williams]

Here, brother, and we've Said it before. We will say it again. It boggles my mind the amount of people who get mad at the people telling the truth and. And don't care about the liars. They're mad at us for exposing a liar and be like, well, he's still a vet, so we just ignore his lies. Like, that's crazy to me.

[Brent Tucker]

I would want, like, yeah, I wish.

[Kenny Williams]

You would do it.

[Brent Tucker]

So, like, that is the one thing that is crazy to me. Like, whatever the truth, like, if you're telling people the truth. And I just don't understand why people would go so far and hate on you so much when you're delivering factual information about someone else lying. I don't understand.

[Tyler Hoover]

Well, Brent brought up a great point, and I don't think it was on a podcast. That's why I want to bring it up and make it look like I came up with it. People love it when this podcast exposes dirty cops. Did we talk about this last Thursday?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Okay, so we did.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

But they fucking can't fathom the fact.

[Kenny Williams]

And it is. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about now. Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

And somebody that we had on in my. I mean, shit could have been. You said that the veterans are the last thing that society has to hold. Like, they can do no wrong type thing. And I think that's what it is. It's like the veterans, but Guy Jolly, you know, they could do no wrong. Like, everybody in the last 10 years has learned to criticize cops without question, no matter what. Every Karen with YouTube wants to question cops, but to question a veteran right now is unheard of.

[Brent Tucker]

I love the analogy that you use in the past is like the cops the dad of the group. So like every. When dad gets in trouble, it's like, holy shit. And like people. I don't. The authority figure, but I don't know. I feel like military would be in kind of the same realm as an authority figure in that. I don't know.

[Drew]

But then again, like Brent said last week, and that is, if someone lies about a football game, the whole world explodes, you know, but if. But if it's over the military, which is about protecting our country, well, that. That's not a big deal. Come on, people.

[Kenny Williams]

All right, but the priority corrected us in the. In the chats, but I got it. And this is where it gets a little weirder. Now. I have to. Now it's a whole different. Now it's a whole different argument. Apparently it is for sure the National Medal of Honor museum. So if this is not a Navy SEAL museum, you know, which. Which I thought it was, which would make sense why people were so mad, you know, at. It seemed like to me people were mad at the Navy SEALS about it. Well, then the seals don't have anything to do with this. If it's a National Medal of Honor museum, I don't know. Then your problem is with that museum. And I know for a fact, because I. I've seen the store and I've seen people talk about it, and they were talking about the seals. I don't know why they decided to kind of downgrade his spotlight. That blows my mind. Especially since it's the only Medal of Honor ever captured on video that I know of, I believe. Or at least the first. The first Medal of Honor ever captured on ISR footage or video.

[Drew]

John Todd Brent, what are your thoughts on what Havana Syndrome is? Directed energy weapons of Russian or Chinese origin. Do you know anyone who experienced it? Havana Syndrome. You know what that is?

[Kenny Williams]

I do. Loosely. I don't know enough to weigh in on it, but I do know this. I do know there's way too many people that came down with some really weird symptoms, all from one embassy in Havana. Someone was doing something weird. I haven't had any experience with it, but, man, I don't know how that didn't get more traction and how we weren't more upset about it and find out that someone was doing something to our embassy members to cause them to all become sick.

[Tyler Hoover]

0% service connected.

[Drew]

Copville gives 100 bucks. Thank you so much.

[Tyler Hoover]

Damn.

[Drew]

Keeping the lights on. Brent J, also known as Big Tuna, gives a little bit. That's great. Brents are awesome. Just saying our name makes people smile.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm not sure about that. I haven't seen Tim smile yet. I don't think Timothy smile using my name.

[Drew]

Plight Designs. Back again, Bert. I got some of your tier one and bourbon coffee. You guys are in India or is that Indiana again?

[Kenny Williams]

A little Patreon joke.

[Drew]

Please let me know any opinions on the few Bad men book I sent. Ann Tyler Opinions on Code Over Country.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's a book, right?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm a avid reader for sure. I've never read it.

[Kenny Williams]

And where's. Where's. Where was. Where was his. His. The box that he sent. We ever find it? You said you found it.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, it was in the middle of the move.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

So I have it secure.

[Kenny Williams]

Plight. I'm gonna look through those books tonight and I got two flights coming up in one weekend and I want to put A hurting on. On some book.

[Tyler Hoover]

Somebody spark notes me. Code over country, please. Thank you.

[Drew]

All right, Kenny. Look like he sings for the Smashing Pumpkins.

[Brent Tucker]

I'll take it.

[Drew]

That was in all caps. They were passionate about that super chat. Hey, Brent, what does it take to be the right guy and not just the best guy?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, what does it take to be the right guy? Not the best guy.

[Tyler Hoover]

You'll know when you know.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, usually the best guy, he's physically the. The best at. At at everything. And so you think he's the best guy. The right guy is physically fit, for sure. But he's wired right. He's a team player, he's a problem solver. Those are things you can't always. Aren't always tangible in selections. And you have to. You have to dig deep to find the right guy.

[Tyler Hoover]

What's going on with the chats? Are we having a delete stuff?

[Drew]

I had to delete one guy for being a well door.

[Tyler Hoover]

The problem is, is that we're not blocking them. We're just deleting them. And I don't know how. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong.

[Drew]

I. Don't be stupid.

[Tyler Hoover]

Well, no, I'm saying we're not. We're not blocking them. They're able to come back.

[Drew]

Well, if they come back, they come back as a profile.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, so we're. Okay.

[Kenny Williams]

And we're getting. We're getting some. Some real time information as well. Thank you, Matt Kubler. That. That shed some light on it. Because I'm like, well, if it wasn't a Navy SEAL museum, why is everyone so mad about it? Here's. Here's some inside information again. Thank you, Matt. Slab is on the board. And we'll have one of 200. One of 200 exhibits. Will have one of 200 exhibits out of 3500 Medal of Honor winners. Chapman won't. There's where I guess the connection is. I said, why do people mad at the seals? Because Slab, who was on the mission, apparently we'll have an exhibit there. And I believe they think that he's pushing to make sure Chapman doesn't because it doesn't make his story look good. That's. I'm just connecting dots. That's an opinion. I don't know. But that is. That is good information. There's. We're just giving the information. You. You come up with your own opinion.

[Drew]

Let's see how many. Donut shop. It's back in there. We're almost done with these.

[Tyler Hoover]

Justin.

[Drew]

Yeah. Justin's out there. Great work, Kenny. America, Kenny.

[Brent Tucker]

Thanks, bro.

[Kenny Williams]

Say it right.

[Drew]

Never gets old.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right. It.

[Drew]

It jumped on me.

[Tyler Hoover]

All.

[Drew]

That might be it.

[Tyler Hoover]

We suck at super chats, dude.

[Drew]

Well, stupid. The stupid computer.

[Tyler Hoover]

Somebody just say something about Dan Holloway.

[Drew]

There's a lot here, guys. I'm sorry.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right? We got to stay. We got to hit these super chats.

[Drew]

Far back as I can go. All right, let's see. Yo, cop in the middle. Sorry, missed your name. But anyway, you still have some of that lean. What brand was it?

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, go, go, go, go. Keep going. That's drugs.

[Drew]

Appreciate the podcast. Keep up the good work, Trenton. Kyler.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. It was my comment, boy. You seen my name on David Hookstead? We need the truth. Tired of the BS and lies.

[Kenny Williams]

Sorry.

[Drew]

I believe. Anti Hero podcast. You haters.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, that's right. Fuck you, Tyler.

[Drew]

Just curious. While on patrol, have you ever had someone recognize you from the podcast?

[Tyler Hoover]

Other cops that I don't work with at my particular agency have stared at me so long do. I said, is there a problem? They go, nah, bro. What's up, bro?

[Drew]

Brent looks more natural with a cigar compared to the Live in Philly. What's the closing song?

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, I don't. I haven't figured out the closing song. I was jonesing for a cigar in Philly. No one told me I couldn't Any more.

[Drew]

Phone conversation with TK Keep up the good work.

[Kenny Williams]

Nope. But he's got my number. He knows he can call me anytime. Please do.

[Drew]

Dakota Meyer sits down to pee. Key. Anti gun.

[Kenny Williams]

That's. That is an opinion.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, Dan Holloway, huh? Let's see one from the room.

[Drew]

Dan Holloway and TK See a big cliff and bet each other who would hit the bottom first. So they both jump. Who wins? Society.

[Kenny Williams]

You want to.

[Tyler Hoover]

Actually, Dan Holloway would win because he's fatter.

[Kenny Williams]

Let's talk about Dan Holloway for a second.

[Tyler Hoover]

Really?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, man. I'm always the guy that's having to fucking do all the shit talking.

[Kenny Williams]

Well, if he went to a level, that, to me, is like. You almost can't ignore it. I mean, it's. It was insane what he said. You and you. So we talked about it. You know, he called us cunts, and he's like. And come guzzling.

[Tyler Hoover]

He has a weird obsession with come. I mean, every insult is something with cum.

[Kenny Williams]

And again, what is he so mad about? He clearly has no idea what he's talking about, because he's either mad still about the Tim Kennedy podcast, which apparently you now you're weighing in on Something you know nothing about because people from the convoy were there and. And backed us up, or you're upset about me saying I heard a different story. Either way. Not sure that that's the. The sane and appropriate response to. To those two things, but that's. That's. That's your opinion. I'm. Guess what? You can get a hold of my phone number just like anyone else can, but you don't.

[Tyler Hoover]

Dan Holloway is somebody that was given an opportunity to have a microphone in his face and never let it go. The guy is. I will say this, he's knowledgeable with government and the way government works, and he's a constitutionalist and I guess has a podcast about the Constitution. However, he's a fucking retard when it comes to utilizing the Constitution for the American people. The guy once said, civil unrest should not be handled by law enforcement, should be handled by the US army on American soil.

[Brent Tucker]

That's a.

[Kenny Williams]

From a. From a constitutionalist.

[Tyler Hoover]

Said that. Think.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay, you guys are smart enough.

[Drew]

Danny Wa. I second leaving the Sean Ryan Patreon for yours. Thank you guys for coming to my hometown last week. Brandt and Tay. Tay. What's the difference between a light bulb and a pregnant girl? You can unscrew a light bulb.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, dad joke.

[Kenny Williams]

Guys, I have to make it clear again because I have no issue with Sean Ryan. I have no. No issue whatsoever.

[Tyler Hoover]

Ah, yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

No. No issue whatsoever.

[Tyler Hoover]

I like it. Issue's a bad word. People disagree about things all the time.

[Kenny Williams]

Right? I said like, yeah. And that. And people are like, oh, well, you got this.

[Tyler Hoover]

It's.

[Kenny Williams]

Do I. Do me and him line up 100% on all my views and opinions? No. Does he have to? No.

[Drew]

Neither do we. And I'm your brother.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

As he fucking chugs. Is smearing off orange juice.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. Do we.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's a bad drink.

[Kenny Williams]

Do we line up enough for me to like the guy?

[Drew]

Yes.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. He's a. He's a stand up guy.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

I like him.

[Drew]

Thank you for the kind words about Chappie coming from oil field trash. Love you guys.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oil field trash.

[Drew]

Slabinski is the leading board member.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh. Just not a good look.

[Tyler Hoover]

That.

[Kenny Williams]

It's just not a good look.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's your answer.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

If that's true. If that's true. I don't know if that's true or not, but.

[Drew]

Okay. I don't know what this means. Wow, wow, wow. Be careful about Dakota Meyer. He is a firefighter.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay. That's straightforward.

[Drew]

He also has been nailing Palin. Nailing Palin. Palin Naylon Palin.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, no, I don't know what that.

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know. I don't. That. That is. Can we do. Are we gonna have to do this thing at the beginning of the show where the opinions of our guests are are that of the do not necessarily reflect the fact.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I mean Brent, people are mad because Slab is on the board of the museum and is featured heavily. Leaving Chap out in the process again.

[Kenny Williams]

Right? Yeah, I agree with you. Not a good look.

[Drew]

Edward Byers is on the board of the Moh Museum in Texas. That's where the frogs come in.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Okay. James Smith people are upset with the seals MOH Museum because Brits. Labinsky, the seal who stole Chapman's valor is on the board of the museum and he is honoring himself in the museum.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Drew]

This seems to be common knowledge.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Did it shift? Nope. Yep. Freaking Pete.

[Kenny Williams]

Did he say hate breed?

[Drew]

Hate breed. Perseverance.

[Kenny Williams]

I'll do it. May not be perseverance. I got a Hate breed song that I like that I haven't done in a while.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

Drew, you're making me sick.

[Drew]

Sorry, bro. I gotta find it.

[Tyler Hoover]

Going up. Yeah.

[Drew]

It wasn't buyers at James Smith is correct. I'm going to haze myself. I love that. Self accountability. We need more of that.

[Tyler Hoover]

Haze yourself.

[Drew]

Love it. Plight Designs. Tyler. Who's Dan?

[Tyler Hoover]

Dan. Dan Crenshaw.

[Brent Tucker]

I think he's thinking about the other Dan that I didn't know when I talked to you earlier.

[Tyler Hoover]

Dan who?

[Brent Tucker]

Holloway or whatever.

[Tyler Hoover]

Dan. Oh, Dan.

[Brent Tucker]

That's who you were just talking.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. Dan Holloway. Sorry, yeah.

[Drew]

Who is that?

[Tyler Hoover]

We're moving.

[Kenny Williams]

We're moving. We're moving.

[Tyler Hoover]

He's. You know what? I'll give him credit where credit's due. I talk about him. He is the co host of Drinkin Bros podcast, AKA Lion Bros. But yeah, they, they know how they. They will not fucking mention us. They just block us. And then anybody that goes in their comments and says, hey, what about the antihero podcast? They just call us cunts and have something to do with come.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, they're. They're. They. They've decided that hey, we're gonna. We're going to latch onto the coattails of people like Rob O'Neill and Tim Kennedy because they have a massive following and if we're cool with them, we'll have a massive following.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's my work.

[Kenny Williams]

That's my opinion.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, they're. They again, they have money tied into these guys. If Tim Kennedy or Rob O'Neill goes down for and like Admits it and.

[Kenny Williams]

They go down with the ship.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, they. They lose money, they lose credibility, they lose everything. These guys are icons to that whole, like Black Rifle Coffee Company drinking bros like all them. Like these guys are. So that's why I feel like some of the OGs, the owners of Black Rifle Coffee Company, they're not saying shit about it, which rightfully so they shouldn't because they can back out at any time. But they got these mid level guys like the blue check mark mafia that are going to bat for them. And it's like, man, all right.

[Kenny Williams]

I'll go back and say this about Black Rifle. Get when. When you're that big, like Shawn Ryan and like. And like Black Rifle, maybe I was a little naive to think they're just gonna, you know, make a decision quick. They make slow decisions because they're big. And a part of me thinks you should make a slow decision because you're big. Because it has to be the right decision.

[Tyler Hoover]

And they're public.

[Kenny Williams]

Give. Give them time. Let's see what they do.

[Drew]

Hard stuck. Brent, do you prefer the 416 or the. Is that Elva or Lava? No. You don't like talking about gear, but there's a pick of. You holding it?

[Kenny Williams]

Yes. What do you hold the. It. It. I love them both. I love them both. You may not be there, and it depends on the situation. I love them both. Great. Both great guns.

[Tyler Hoover]

Nerds.

[Drew]

Can Brent throw in a camo cigar or two if I win the Patreon giveaway? But seriously, I love this podcast. Thank you guys for doing what you do. Very good.

[Tyler Hoover]

We got to do that halfway through too, if you win.

[Kenny Williams]

All right.

[Brent Tucker]

The stuff I gave you.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

I would say yes, but the chances of me remember remembering all that and then doing it would then make me look like a big liar. He said yes and then do it. He's kind of a dick. So I would love to do it, but I won't say yes because I can't take the chance of not of the following.

[Tyler Hoover]

Where we package. Where we package the Patreon giveaways is not the same place as the cigars. So that would have to be like coordinated efforts on multiple people's.

[Kenny Williams]

But just know I wanted to.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Drew]

You want to take a break, do some videos?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, we got to.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, we got to do some videos, we got to do some commercials, and we got to do the Patreon winner. So where the are you right now?

[Drew]

Instagram.

[Tyler Hoover]

You're. You're in 2023. Drew.

[Drew]

What. What the hell is that?

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't know.

[Brent Tucker]

Well, that's. What year you're in.

[Drew]

2020.

[Tyler Hoover]

Go down a lot.

[Kenny Williams]

A lot.

[Drew]

That's the last one.

[Tyler Hoover]

Are you in counterculture?

[Drew]

Well, this has that. And it's got Tyler here.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh.

[Drew]

Now he's the anti hero podcast, but.

[Kenny Williams]

It says Counterculture Inc. Up. Up there. Right there.

[Drew]

Yeah, we're doing this.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, here we go. Here we go again. I appreciate all the external help that we've gotten this podcast. Let's give credit where credit's due. Josh, thanks for looking up things for us.

[Tyler Hoover]

Log into existing account.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, is they. No, not everyone's seeing this, right?

[Drew]

No, it's not.

[Kenny Williams]

Matt, thank you for. With some. Some text. Bo, remember, set me straight with the museum via some text. And Devin let me know that my skull fell over and was crooked. After she pointed that out, I was like, well, I can't. I immediately looked up at the TV screen like, all right, can't have that. Oh, man.

[Brent Tucker]

It's funny that we talked about it right before we came on.

[Kenny Williams]

Anyways, now you see how. How many people it takes to help these two retards put something together. Gosh, I don't know where that is, but can't thank you guys enough. I really can't hear it.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is that right there? All right, now, it's not the anti air podcast, so get rid of that.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Kenny Williams]

While Tyler is squaring Drew away, I'm trying to think of how to do your name wrong, because that's a thing we do. But Kenny's a tough one.

[Brent Tucker]

Call me Jenny.

[Drew]

Jenny.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, that's.

[Kenny Williams]

Gosh, that's not cool when you got to think of your own. That's so uncreative of me.

[Brent Tucker]

The only reason is I have nephews and nieces that find it amusing, so they call me Aunt Jenny.

[Kenny Williams]

Jenny, I have a question for you and we talked about it a little. A little bit on the. On the recorded podcast. So please watch the Recorder podcast. You'll see a lot more of. Of everything. Of everything that he's done and been involved with. Quick story. What is. What is your most either, like, memorable bust or rewarding bust? I mean, the list I read off was massive. So what. What stands out to you in your. In your career?

[Brent Tucker]

The most memorable is not necessarily any drugs related whatsoever. I stopped these two guys. They were coming out of a neighboring city about two hours south of where I'm at, and they had two guns on them or a gun and two pounds of weed. What are the. Maybe two guns in a pot, whatever. One of Those one or the other.

[Kenny Williams]

Pick one. Say, like, say with confidence. Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

Well, I mean, I redo it. This was 2014. One gun, two pounds of weed.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. That's how I remember two.

[Brent Tucker]

Anyways, so that was early in my interdiction career. They get arrested, I go home for midnight. So in the law enforcement community, people like to bust balls. I come back in the next day. The sergeant's like, great job yesterday. I'm like, oh, you know, like, he's.

[Tyler Hoover]

Like, I don't know.

[Brent Tucker]

Busting my balls. Because it wasn't that great of a seizure. I had no idea they had to be on the lookout that came out during midnights that they had just been involved with a triple homicide.

[Kenny Williams]

No way.

[Brent Tucker]

And they were in custody with one of the murder weapons.

[Kenny Williams]

Really? Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

It's most memorable.

[Kenny Williams]

That's crazy. Yeah. That we had two cops shot here in Orlando, and I hope I don't screw this up. And they got them for a traffic stop, but they thought, to make sure I get the story right, I'll make it a little more vague. The people that they stopped thought it was something way worse that they actually did, and they were just getting stopped for a traffic stop. So they came out blazing and shot the two OPD cops, and it was just. It was just a traffic stop. Now, granted, if it had continued, I'm sure they'd have found that out, but that's what really sucks. And one aspect of being a traffic cop is you can stop someone and not. And you stopped them for this reason. So this is the level of bad guy you think they are, because that's what they did wrong. And who knows who you're really stopping?

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, that's.

[Kenny Williams]

And what's about to happen next.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, it's a huge. It's absolutely huge unknown. Like, every. Traffic stops in unknown.

[Kenny Williams]

You know what I'm saying?

[Brent Tucker]

You're stopping people.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

You're anticipating one thing, and who knows where it ends up?

[Kenny Williams]

And I agree with this. It's just human psyche. You can't live on every traffic stop like it's the worst traffic stop you've ever been on.

[Brent Tucker]

You'll end up dead.

[Kenny Williams]

Right.

[Brent Tucker]

So early in your career.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. You won't treat people correctly. You can't do that. It's. It's, man, It's. It's a tightrope to walk, man. It really is. I don't. I don't envy you guys for. For that part of the job.

[Brent Tucker]

It's.

[Drew]

I mean.

[Kenny Williams]

I mean, every bad guy went after. I knew what he did. And I know, like, you know, all the. All the variables are kind. I mean, there's other variables, but, like, that part of it, it's straightforward, you know. No, you guys don't get that.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah. Yeah, I guess we don't get the. The same preparation. Like, if I had a magic wand, what I would do have, like, cops double every police department. 50 of the time you're training, 50 of you're on the job. Like, if you had a magic wand. That's kind of how I think it was because we, you know, trained 10% of the time. And preparation compared. The amount of time we're working is very minimal. Compared to the military, I feel like you guys get an opportunity to train a lot more.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. When I first got into this. This space, that. That was a rude awakening for me to hear how little you trained and then think, okay, well, let's try to solve this. Like, you know, then let's see if they can train more. Only to find out, like, it's. It is not an easy problem to solve.

[Brent Tucker]

No, because you have. I mean, you have minimums you have to meet on the road. You have manpower issues, financial, like, everything.

[Kenny Williams]

Every person you take in the train is a person off the street. Not securing their community. 100, you know, and most. And most departments are understaffed, so it's. So they're already covering more coverage than. Than they should. I get it. It's.

[Brent Tucker]

Especially the major cities, too. I mean, those guys. I really feel bad for guys and girls.

[Kenny Williams]

No. But also goes back to. You know what? It's your fault they're understaffed. You have a crappy culture, and you have. And you have a, you know, political leadership that doesn't back them. So at the end of the day, it's also your fault. It's. It's understaffed.

[Brent Tucker]

I think we're pendulum. I think.

[Kenny Williams]

I think so too.

[Brent Tucker]

I think we're coming back and we're gonna. We're gonna rebuild that a little.

[Kenny Williams]

I think so, too. I hope so.

[Tyler Hoover]

Anyways, we're back on. Sorry.

[Drew]

All right, technical difficulties. We're ready to do some videos.

[Kenny Williams]

All right, Jenny. Hanging out.

[Drew]

Here we go.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right. Lake county deputy watches porn and crashes. I haven't watched this yet. I don't watch these on purpose, but this is a big one. How.

[Kenny Williams]

What haven't you watched? This or porn?

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't watch porn anymore, but I've not watched this video.

[Brent Tucker]

Okay, so is this his body cam?

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

Oh, my God.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, Drew's mess with knobs. Let's see how it works out.

[Brent Tucker]

It'd be hilarious if your face pops.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hey, Drew, there might not be any audio. It's a body cam. The first minute doesn't have audio.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. Let it ride.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. In fact, I don't. Did. I might. Did I send this to you? Did you run across it? Oh, you said you didn't watch it yet.

[Tyler Hoover]

No.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay. This is the one I sent to you. It's. It's unique, but there's. There's more than. Than just this that I have a. Oh, it doesn't. Oh.

[Tyler Hoover]

Airbag.

[Kenny Williams]

Keep watching all the way through. Because the bigger story to me is more than just this. Takes him a second to gather his thoughts and continuous bad decisions.

[Drew]

You can use Creston and Cutting Road.

[Tyler Hoover]

435 will be involved. That's it.

[Kenny Williams]

No. No, that's not it. Oh, there we go.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, you're good.

[Kenny Williams]

I feel like it. And I'm not. This is just my opinion. He just rear ended someone. I know you gotta call it in, but it seems like you'd be in a little bit more of a hurry to go check on the people you just rear ended so hard, it deployed your airbag. He goes back. Yeah. Gonna need that phone. Okay. Yes. That's.

[Tyler Hoover]

He keeps going for it.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. And then eventually.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, he's got a seat belt like that, too.

[Kenny Williams]

Notice his seat belt.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, that'll get you in trouble.

[Drew]

Wonder where he was sitting.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right.

[Kenny Williams]

And now notice there's a school bus. Yeah, I'm good. Check out this. And the interaction. Okay, Hit right one more time. It'll probably give the interaction that he has with the. Maybe it doesn't. Okay, I'll. I'll sum it up. I'll sum it up. He then goes and makes and. And lies and said, oh, my brakes locked up. Your brakes didn't lock up. You were watching porn.

[Tyler Hoover]

And how do they know he was watching porn?

[Kenny Williams]

Good question. Tell you how they know he's watching porn? Because it. It baffles my mind. Boggles my mind. Baffles me that cops who have a job of finding out and pulling pieces, like pulling strings of people who lies and figure it out, think so they can lie and get away with it. Okay. So stupid. So the same way both of you always find out who's lying. How do you find out someone's lying? You said it earlier. What? What is it that. That you said? This is what people should do. What, like what? Gets people in trouble.

[Tyler Hoover]

They should shut up.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

I mean, the truth is short symbol to the point.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, you just let him talk. That's what you said on the podcast.

[Tyler Hoover]

Like, I just let him talk.

[Kenny Williams]

Yep. So he goes in and Kaiser, yes, there's an internal investigation. He goes explained to himself. He goes to explain himself and he says, hey, I was on a group chat with people in my sector and I was. I was looking at that. And then they come to find out there were new. You know, that. You know, they go back and they can find the. The. The timestamps like. No, it wasn't that. Then they slow mo the video and they see a picture.

[Drew]

It was a group something and they.

[Kenny Williams]

Just see a picture. They don't know what the picture is of, but they see a picture. And they said, well, the other way we know is that you were. You weren't looking at a group chat. You were looking at a picture and there were no pictures in the group chat. So you're gonna have to tell us more. And this is where he becomes honest. He's like, I was looking a picture of boobs. And. And then, of course. And then he ends up resigning before he gets fired. And I don't know the details of that, but the problem with that is going to be, of course, if you've resigned before you get fired, you can still go work with another police department.

[Tyler Hoover]

Well, there's resigned under investigation.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay. All right.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

So the. I wouldn't say bigger story. So the other part of the story is he wasn't paying attention. That car was stopped for a school bus. Probably good thing you were injured someone. What if you'd have just ran over a kid because you're watching boobs now. You're the boob. Drew saw what you did there. Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Someone laughed quick.

[Kenny Williams]

It's just. Ah, man. Just a crazy story.

[Brent Tucker]

Just amazes me sometimes.

[Kenny Williams]

It amazes me.

[Tyler Hoover]

Next video.

[Brent Tucker]

Speechless.

[Drew]

Next video.

[Tyler Hoover]

That was right there is a good one.

[Drew]

Who Officers to find what they've been called to look for.

[Tyler Hoover]

Damn.

[Drew]

Right there.

[Tyler Hoover]

Somebody right there. What a guy.

[Drew]

September 10, 2023.

[Kenny Williams]

Still seems alive at 6:20pm A man.

[Tyler Hoover]

Lying on the ground, shot but still breathing.

[Kenny Williams]

You should have something to eat it. I don't know. That's.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't know. SLMPD Officer Austin Frazier. He is not wearing a camera. It's his partner, Ty Warrens that is rolling together.

[Drew]

They make a decision.

[Kenny Williams]

Let's cruise around and come back.

[Tyler Hoover]

Changing lives forever. Laughing as they walk away from a.

[Drew]

Person and the public who needed them to protect and serve.

[Kenny Williams]

It's disgusting. It's really disgusting.

[Drew]

Former St. Louis County Chief Tim Fish, now police.

[Tyler Hoover]

Wow.

[Brent Tucker]

Is that real?

[Kenny Williams]

I saw this story, but I didn't watch it.

[Tyler Hoover]

So, again, that is when you've been like, you're tainted. You need to get off patrol or quit being a cop. Because, I mean, it's one thing to think that, like, if you're thinking, like, damn it. Like, it is very common for first responders to not care that you just shot yourself in the head and only care about what you're about to go eat or when you're getting off. That's very common. Everyone's gonna agree. Yeah. And unless you're a rookie and you're like, no, I care. Right, Right. But, yeah, like, I mean, holy.

[Brent Tucker]

You'd be thinking that the whole time. Like, man, like, I had dinner plans or whatever, but, like, you still have a job and a responsibility to these people.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's a big responsibility, too.

[Brent Tucker]

Like, you know, he's. Ah, that's fucked up.

[Kenny Williams]

This is what kills me. And we're talking about how crazy it is that one cop has intrusive thoughts and acts on it. There's two cops there.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

So another cop said, yeah, good idea. Like, that's where it really gets crazy, if you ask me.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, I just thought that was the very interesting story. Someone sent us that.

[Kenny Williams]

But you know what? People will be more upset at the cop that shot a dog than they will be at that. And don't get me wrong. I know, Kendra, you've said how much you love dogs, but that's. That's. That has to be a bigger outcry. That's a person. That's a father. That's a brother.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's. I agree.

[Kenny Williams]

That's crazy.

[Tyler Hoover]

I think we only have, like, one or two. One or two videos, and they're about the diversity the DEI hires. And so let's play these.

[Drew]

You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call, that looks like you.

[Kenny Williams]

No, I don't.

[Drew]

It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better.

[Kenny Williams]

No, actually, I just.

[Tyler Hoover]

I just want you to be competent.

[Kenny Williams]

And be able to help me if my.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm on fire. That'd be great.

[Drew]

Is she strong enough to do this?

[Kenny Williams]

It seems like a reasonable question.

[Drew]

Or, you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire. Which my response is, he got himself in the wrong place. If I have to carry him out.

[Kenny Williams]

Of a fire, I am in the wrong place because my house on fire.

[Tyler Hoover]

So that's. That's it for that one?

[Kenny Williams]

There's no. The guy gave the commentary. Done. You nailed it, buddy.

[Tyler Hoover]

Go down. And the last video is. Is. Is this still. But someone breaking it down. These the. The Kristens of the Los Angeles Fire Department.

[Drew]

First, who's in charge of the LA Fire Department?

[Kenny Williams]

It's these three lesbians, and their names.

[Drew]

Are all some variation of Kristen. We have Kristen Crowley. She's the first LGBTQ fire chief. She makes almost 500k and went to Harvard Business.

[Kenny Williams]

And maybe the last after this incident.

[Drew]

First lesbian assistant chief to the LA Fire Department. Harvard Kennedy School for Managing Diverse Organizations.

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know.

[Drew]

They teach you how to put out a fire at Harvard.

[Tyler Hoover]

The Harvard Firefighting school.

[Drew]

Christine Larson, L.A. fire Department's first lesbian equity bureau chief. How much does that pay?

[Kenny Williams]

400K. So we have all these lesbians and.

[Drew]

They'Re focused on everything except for putting.

[Kenny Williams]

Out fires and fire readiness. Yeah, unfortunately.

[Tyler Hoover]

Well, who would have thought?

[Drew]

You get the first lesbian chief, and then the next week you get the first deputy chief lesbian.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, it feels good to include everyone. And you're the fire chief, you're the miss, you're the assistant. We're all lesbians. We're wearing the outfits. We can do it.

[Tyler Hoover]

Let the white guys out.

[Kenny Williams]

We want to change everything.

[Tyler Hoover]

We're.

[Kenny Williams]

We're in charge now.

[Drew]

And then the city burns and no. No one.

[Kenny Williams]

There's no water in the fire hydrant. Do you need to go to the.

[Drew]

Harvard School of Management to figure out you need water?

[Kenny Williams]

LA just got a huge dose of reality, didn't they?

[Drew]

So much for diversity.

[Kenny Williams]

Southern California did, I should say, with those three stooges.

[Drew]

My goodness.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, am I on?

[Drew]

Are you on?

[Tyler Hoover]

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[Kenny Williams]

Boom.

[Tyler Hoover]

We got. Also Rick's not in the fucking comments, but we got How Arms.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

And he has been getting lots of responses about veterans. They gotta hire 17 veterans in the next year and a half to do the contracts he wants. They want disabled veterans. So give Rick Howe a shout, but we'll play his commercial now.

[Kenny Williams]

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[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, so hit up Rick Howell from Howe Arms if you're interested in getting a job with them. They Cerakote. Is that what it's called? Cerakoting. Cerakote Firearms. And he's looking to hire disabled vets. The next one is Brotherhood Blaze. These guys have been a sponsor for a while. Get your Blaze from them. We get our Blaze from them. And also they do big team orders. So Brent's got his Brotherhood Blaze blade. His Blaze blade. Is it sharp?

[Kenny Williams]

You damn right.

[Tyler Hoover]

Cut Kenny with it. We'll see how sharp it is.

[Kenny Williams]

Kenny, get over here. Give you a haircut.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. We'll run their commercial.

[Kenny Williams]

Hey guys, I want to introduce our latest sponsor, Brotherhood Blades. They're made for cops and first responders by cops. They make it the way they do because they know what the job means. Everything is handmade or machined in the usa. Their blades are made to be used and abused because they have some of the best super steels offered. With the use of super steels, general care is limited. You can use it and forget about it without the fear of rusting something first responders are good at. Lifetime warranties come with every blade that cover pretty much anything other than losing your blade or using it to perform outlandish tasks they wouldn't usually use the blade for. Probably like using it as a screwdriver, something we've all done. They have a lifetime sharpening. You only pay one way shipping. If you want to head over to their custom page, your Imagination is their limitation. They'll try anything once they've outfitted numerous teams without blades and have customized the blades to their specifications, including custom lasering sheath, color schemes, and sheath attachments. Head on over to brotherhoodblades.com and get you one. And by the way, I'm not just a spokesman for them. I'm a customer. I carry theirs every day with me. And I wouldn't be talking about them if I didn't trust their product promo code.

[Tyler Hoover]

Anti Hero 10. Next up is the winner of the Patreon giveaway this week. So I gotta call Vanessa because she does the.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, let it be one of the two Patreon members here.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hey, Vanessa, you're on there. Hi. Hey. We're doing Patreon early today. Yeah, we're doing it in the middle of the episode so we don't forget. Oh, okay. What's the can you do? Yeah, whenever you get a second. Can you do the winner and also. What is it? It is the everyday patriot hat and T shirt. Got it. Yep. They're here in the studio With a snap or the. The merch. Because they were here last live.

[Kenny Williams]

They were here last live.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yes. And so I left it on your desk. Okay. Sorry. It's right there.

[Kenny Williams]

Prepared for this one.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hi, everybody. All right. Oh, sorry. It's okay. You weren't ready.

[Drew]

I know. I'm sorry.

[Kenny Williams]

All right. Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

Let me do this.

[Drew]

Random counter thing.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, the viewers are dropping off as we speak.

[Tyler Hoover]

I was not ready. Okay. I can hear me in the background of your phone. I know, it's weird.

[Kenny Williams]

It's like a multiverse. Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right. The winner for this week is.

[Drew]

Keith Davis.

[Kenny Williams]

Keith Davis. 2A boys. Oh, 2A boys. Always in the chat. See you better be in the chats tonight. Yes.

[Drew]

If anything, you don't have to ship it to him.

[Tyler Hoover]

We can just bring it to him at shot show.

[Kenny Williams]

All right.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, yeah. Brent's got a packet in his bag.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, yeah, yeah. And Vanessa, tell them what they won. It's. It's Vanessa White.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. From. Was it. All right, thanks. That was a good dad joke.

[Kenny Williams]

I like that. Oh, thank you. Last announcement. Honorary Anti Hero member Devin turns 30 today. Happy birthday, Devin.

[Drew]

Big three zero.

[Kenny Williams]

Big three zero. Life ain't over. There's still plenty Plenty left Plenty of.

[Drew]

Downhill Plenty of downhill road. All right, who Scope says F. Brent. Never hear anything about Air Force tier one guys. What was your experience with them? Do they attach to a team for a workup deployment cycle? Do they pass a CAG screening or arrive pre vouched there.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is there such thing as Air Force tag team tier one?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. Yeah, it's open source. The Air Force. Gosh. Two four. The two four. They supply us PJs and. And combat controllers, and they're the best in the world at what they do. They. They support us on every mission. They're. They're great dudes, in fact. Oh. Got a hate. I forget people's names. There's one that. That's. I've seen do Do a podcast and I'd love to have him on. I helped them with their. Their as a contractor. Their. Some of their CQB stuff. I think his name is second, but yeah, I'd love to have one of them on.

[Drew]

All right, Kane Korsoff says you get one historical figure.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, my God.

[Drew]

To fight alongside in the AI Apocalypse. Who are you taking? Kane says I think mine is Ted Kekaczynski.

[Kenny Williams]

Ted Kaczynski.

[Tyler Hoover]

Unabomber. Damn. Whoa. All right.

[Kenny Williams]

He's. He's good for one bomb. He's the Unabaughter one historical figure.

[Drew]

So historical. Does that mean they're dead?

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Or any time in the past.

[Kenny Williams]

What do you have a living guy that.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Who know who I'm taking? No. Damn it.

[Kenny Williams]

Who do you got then?

[Drew]

Who's the Tesla guy?

[Kenny Williams]

Elon Musk.

[Drew]

Elon Musk. I'm fighting AI.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, he's not his solve the problem.

[Kenny Williams]

He will be historical.

[Drew]

Yeah. I mean, last week's history. He was there.

[Tyler Hoover]

The thing that Kenny, that was brought up. Somebody asked if we were gonna talk about it. Yeah. I decided that we're not. Only because the person involved seems to have figured out their situation. So there was a meme page that was kind of in a. In the. What would you call that? Law enforcement meme page. That was.

[Brent Tucker]

He liked to say things without having facts.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. And it caught some fire right before the Mangozi thing. But. And the person involved was really upset, but I think I just found out. I think they squashed it. So I don't want to drag anybody through the mud, but Brett, it was. Asked us to talk about on multiple people, but we'll leave it at that.

[Kenny Williams]

All right, I'm taking George Washington.

[Drew]

Why not?

[Kenny Williams]

Why not?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

Give me. Give me old George. Me and him, we'll figure it out together.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm taking Stonewall Jackson.

[Drew]

Stonewall Kenny.

[Brent Tucker]

I have no idea. We're talking about AI.

[Kenny Williams]

Right.

[Drew]

Like, why would we got gonna fight.

[Brent Tucker]

The AI Apocalypse with George Washington?

[Kenny Williams]

Who is.

[Drew]

Why not?

[Kenny Williams]

It's historical.

[Drew]

Hey, you're gonn. You're gonna lose your.

[Kenny Williams]

If the guy can figure out how to win a war with a ragtag group of Americans against the world's greatest empire at the time, he can figure this out. I'll give him the knowledge he needs. Give me. Give me G.W.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, the problem is you said historical, which means it has to be real. Because if. If. If I'm taking anybody that's not real is I'm gonna take Neo from the Matrix.

[Kenny Williams]

He's not historical.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's what I'm saying. He's fictional.

[Kenny Williams]

You added fictional. The question was historical.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm saying it would be a lot better of a question.

[Kenny Williams]

Well, then put it in a super chat.

[Drew]

All right, let's go, Kenny. I'm not even Benjamin Franklin. I mean.

[Brent Tucker]

No, no. I asked to someone that, like, died recently that had a lot of computer knowledge, that's who I would take.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right, what about the Apple guy or Steve Jobs?

[Kenny Williams]

That's a good one.

[Drew]

All right, Brandt, what's the best carry gun? Glock 19 or Glock 19? Loving the Delta and Bravo cigars.

[Kenny Williams]

Will we get. Will we get demonetized? I can't hear myself because he's hearing me.

[Drew]

Can't hear yourself.

[Tyler Hoover]

Let's let him figure it out. Troubleshoot, troubleshoot, troubleshoot, troubleshoot.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay, are you.

[Drew]

Oh, every time you guys say that, I don't understand what the hell you're talking about.

[Tyler Hoover]

Drew is doing like eight things.

[Drew]

You guys say that. I go, look at these buttons over here. Golly. All right, Here we go.

[Kenny Williams]

Glock 19.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's the airsoft gun.

[Kenny Williams]

That's an Airsoft gun.

[Tyler Hoover]

My son has a Glock 19 airsoft gun. It looks real as.

[Kenny Williams]

Again, that's what that was.

[Drew]

Just paint that orange tip black.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's what she said.

[Drew]

All right. That was fast, Danny. 100 bucks. Thanks. I appreciate the way the desk is set up on camera. However, Lenny is that. You're in the name club now, buddy. Is that set up awkward when you're trying to talk to the boys unsure of their names.

[Kenny Williams]

Thank you, Denny.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, we. All right. So, yeah, we have gotten the future plans for the studio will be kind of where people the guest doesn't have to go like this all the time because it does suck.

[Kenny Williams]

If we were a straight desk, it'd be even worse. Like.

[Tyler Hoover]

No, we've. At least I'm thinking about stealing. So what I do is I go. Even though they're retarded, I go. And I look at other podcasts like Drinking bros and the way they have it set up is they have two desks that kind of face each other in a weird V. So that way guests can come out. But the problem is we only have one guest at a time. So whose side would he sit on? And who would be the Lone Ranger?

[Brent Tucker]

We should sit right in the middle and you guys sit behind him and just fire questions.

[Kenny Williams]

It's only going to get worse. We have add ons to this desk we can make. Yeah, we can go one on each side. It'll only get worse.

[Drew]

We got bigger problems. The doctor is back in question. To all. In the movie version of your life, who would you choose to your. To you. That's portray your character.

[Brent Tucker]

The lead singer of the Smashing Pumpkins. Is that what they said? Yeah, that's who it is.

[Tyler Hoover]

He's not an actor, though.

[Brent Tucker]

He's gonna be.

[Kenny Williams]

He's gonna have to be.

[Tyler Hoover]

Who would I have? I would have Hugh Jackman.

[Kenny Williams]

It's pretty good. Well, we're just pretty cool. He's gonna have to be an actor, essentially, is what you said. Drew. Drew's gonna have to cut his man bun and he's gonna be. And portray me. Yes, he is.

[Drew]

Ah, well, I'll give you your stunt double. Go with John Wayne.

[Tyler Hoover]

Whoa. You got a weird question in here. Brent.

[Drew]

Brent, thoughts on Matt Pranka?

[Kenny Williams]

I think 1. Matt Pranka is one of the best tactical gunfighters on social media. And you better listen to him. You may not like what he says, but he's right.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is he better than you?

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, I can't. We were on the same team at one point. I've never beat Matt Pranka at a team shooting competition, which we did almost every day ever. He's always been an amazing shot.

[Drew]

This is a tough one. A soldier, sailor, airman, marine or cop, most act like they've been trained to act. This behavior doesn't occur in a vacuum. Bad leadership leads to bad troops. Quick, fast and in a hurry.

[Tyler Hoover]

Lot to unpack on that one.

[Drew]

I don't see a question mark in there.

[Tyler Hoover]

So I think he was.

[Kenny Williams]

Sometimes you can just maybe.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, yeah. Just pay it. Pay it and play it.

[Drew]

Papa Penguin telling you what's up. Well, like it, Mr. Tech 1911, back again. What's the most fun apocalypse and why is it zombies?

[Tyler Hoover]

I think because they're easy targets if they're slow moving. I think that a real apocalypse is fucking horrifying. I think zombies are a fun apocalypse because it would never happen. And you're hearing it from me, a zombie apocalypse would never happen, but an Apocalypse is among us nonetheless. And that's scary as shit.

[Kenny Williams]

The. Oh, this is.

[Tyler Hoover]

You haven't had to wear your gas mask yet.

[Brent Tucker]

I have it.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm dying.

[Kenny Williams]

Is it? If you're ready. I'm not offended. I get it. You have those. You have those. You have those supple lungs.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm over here dying.

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know what that means.

[Tyler Hoover]

Kenny smells weed once.

[Drew]

They've worn costumes on the episodes before.

[Tyler Hoover]

God, that thing's airtight, huh?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

It's not mine.

[Kenny Williams]

It's not mine.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is that your kid?

[Kenny Williams]

It's not mine, baby, I swear.

[Tyler Hoover]

Dude, your face is already red.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, he's good. Test the most fun apocalypse might be if. If the liberals tried to rise up and. And that wouldn't be an apocalypse.

[Tyler Hoover]

That would just be a fun event.

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know why it'd be fun. I just. Just. I don't know.

[Drew]

Is it be a target Richard environment?

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know why. I don't know. I don't know why.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm just saying zombies are a target rich environment. I think that's why it's fun.

[Drew]

So would be the liberal upright.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yes.

[Drew]

You know tato means fool or dumbass in Spanish, right?

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, God. No, it doesn't. I don't know Spanish, but I don't think that's Spanish.

[Kenny Williams]

Someone look that up.

[Drew]

Jumped.

[Kenny Williams]

I just saw that one. They're getting real creative now.

[Drew]

Here it is.

[Kenny Williams]

Here it is. It is coming.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, the one does it.

[Kenny Williams]

Silly. It is silly. That means silly.

[Drew]

All right, shout out to my buddy Eric Fisher, who is getting married this week.

[Tyler Hoover]

Nice.

[Drew]

Another one bites.

[Kenny Williams]

It's not too late.

[Tyler Hoover]

Loud. Do it. Hopefully she's.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, you missed one.

[Tyler Hoover]

You missed one.

[Kenny Williams]

Right up again.

[Drew]

Zyler. What that mouth do?

[Tyler Hoover]

Thanks for fighting that, friend.

[Kenny Williams]

I just saw Zyler. I didn't see the rest of it.

[Tyler Hoover]

No, you missed. No, go back. You missed one.

[Kenny Williams]

What that mouth do?

[Drew]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, gosh.

[Tyler Hoover]

Drew was looking after me. Drew was looking after me. Brent had to call me out.

[Drew]

Yeah. All right, can we move the cam off Tyler, please? Oh, shut up, Big Strick.

[Tyler Hoover]

Damn. All right, let's. Yeah, let's. Let's hear it now.

[Drew]

I'm just kidding, Big Strick. I just get enough of it from the. All right. Thanks for the help, though, Josh Newman. 50 bucks. Thanks, man. I'm taking Sarah.

[Tyler Hoover]

The Terminator.

[Kenny Williams]

Past performance. Yeah, she has past performance.

[Tyler Hoover]

Good one.

[Drew]

Proven. Proven track record. Joe's got you. Brent, did you have any cool experiences Working with S O T. A sad A's from your SF time. Would love to hear a saude come on the show sometime.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, absolutely. So saudes and sf, they're. They're. They're. You're like on the ground SIGINT guys, and they've been great. Oh, my gosh. Absolutely. They've saved our ass by telling us, you know, what's. What's coming, what's coming up next, what. What that village plans to do. They're. They're great.

[Drew]

Here's a question everybody knows the answer to. Hey, Brett, have you ever had to choke the chicken before a mission?

[Kenny Williams]

No, I'm a little busy. Before the mission.

[Tyler Hoover]

How much before?

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, how long before, though?

[Drew]

Should have asked after the mission. Brent, what was your experience on Target working with 3rd Ranger Battalion and RRC? Former 3rd Bat Bro here.

[Kenny Williams]

The.

[Tyler Hoover]

I know you're gay. You called yourself a bat bro.

[Kenny Williams]

I hate to say it. I would have known at the time what bat they were from. I just don't remember now. I mean, I of course remember working with Rangers, and it was always a good experience. I just can't remember exactly which bat I was working with when. Never worked with rrc.

[Drew]

Joseph Cox, what motivated you to dedicate your life to helping other veterans and first responders? And what keeps you going during tough moments? Also, Drew deserves proper for what he does to keep this shit show on track. No doubt.

[Tyler Hoover]

Everybody always hits with those really touching questions, and then they hit a zinger at the very end.

[Kenny Williams]

Real quick answer. I said it to you on your podcast, which is this. When I'm retired, if my family gets in trouble tonight, the dulce force isn't coming to save my family. It's first responders are going to save my family. And so that's why I've decided to invest my time and energy and emotion into.

[Tyler Hoover]

How do you know he wasn't asking me? Rip. Oh, gosh, I'm interesting.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, no, I'm a dick.

[Drew]

Go ahead and answer.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, well, he said drew, so by association, the brother thing or just because I'm a dick? I'll be over here.

[Tyler Hoover]

The Delta Force isn't coming to save your family.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, you gave me the jocko voice.

[Tyler Hoover]

Good, good.

[Drew]

All right. Jason. Brittany. I love the beard. Reminds me of me on my ex's area.

[Tyler Hoover]

Did he call you Brittany?

[Kenny Williams]

How do you know he wasn't talking to you?

[Tyler Hoover]

But they're getting out of hand with these names.

[Drew]

Reminds me of my ex area, but less smoky and more moist. Thoughts on hair care?

[Tyler Hoover]

What? Like Your thoughts on one of my thoughts.

[Kenny Williams]

I don't have thoughts on hair care.

[Drew]

Shampoo in the shower.

[Tyler Hoover]

I do you ideally want it to look like your beard?

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know my hair. My beard is very pubic and I don't want that on.

[Tyler Hoover]

It's very. Just a bunch of.

[Kenny Williams]

I don't want that on top of my head.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hair on hair.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. Here's my. Here's my hair care regime. Head and shoulders every night. And if it's out, some Irish Springs is now my shampoo.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, dude, you gotta fight that beard dandruff, though. I know it says a cop. All cops with beards. You have to keep this or head.

[Kenny Williams]

And shoulders is the only thing that keeps that keeps that away.

[Tyler Hoover]

Really?

[Kenny Williams]

Really? Yeah. It's an anti dandruff shampoo.

[Tyler Hoover]

And ladies, you can also try head and shoulders on your areas. It's official. It will work.

[Kenny Williams]

Head and shoulders. Hit us up.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's the last freebie you get.

[Drew]

All right. T. Mitchell says just had to clear out Hookstead's chat. It is full of Sean Ryan's busy boys and Sarah Abrams. Abrams is the grenade no one wants to jump on. There's no valor award working that damn.

[Tyler Hoover]

What is that? Clear out of David Hook said chat. What's that mean?

[Kenny Williams]

I don't know, but I guess they.

[Drew]

Got out of it.

[Kenny Williams]

The opinions of our super chat does not necessarily reflect the opinions of the anti hero podcast Left Nut 36.

[Drew]

Brent and Turtler.

[Tyler Hoover]

What the is that?

[Drew]

Brit and Turtler are doing the Lord's work. Are you going to get the fall of Afghanistan guest back on? Love the show, guys.

[Tyler Hoover]

Who. Who was that?

[Drew]

The fall of Afghanistan guest.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, we'll. We'll probably have him back on. I hope so. Yep.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, that would shoot.

[Kenny Williams]

No, it's. Yeah.

[Drew]

Zuby, Here we go. All right. Do you think Trump is going to get into any wars or have the tier one units ramp up?

[Kenny Williams]

I. Trump's been pretty anti war. He has. And I'll say this, I don't think he's going to have to because I don't think anyone's going to mess around while Trump is. Is in presidency because I don't think. I don't think they want to find out. No, I do think he'll ramp up the tier one guys because that's what keeps you out of war.

[Drew]

T. Mitchell back in. Sarah is less of a super bad and more of a practice girl.

[Tyler Hoover]

Okay.

[Drew]

All right, more opinions from the super chat.

[Kenny Williams]

What's all the terror comments now? All right, I'M here for it.

[Drew]

Plant designs back in Bert. Any experience with the activity? Also, we're at 98, 000, boys.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, you know what? There's almost 2, 000 people right now. Right? And I'm gonna do that. That douchey thing. If you guys aren't subscribed to our YouTube channel, please do. So I want to hit 100,000. I want that stupid YouTube. And that's the thumb in the eye that they get for demonetizing us all the time, having to send us something they might not.

[Tyler Hoover]

The. The guest that we had from a.

[Kenny Williams]

1911 syndicate said he didn't get one. Oh, I'd raise hell over that. I earned it. Give it to me.

[Drew]

Tell your wives and your girlfriends about it. All right, John Todd Brent, G Squadron in Delta. Can you describe difference between other assault squadrons? Did you ever serve in G Squad, John?

[Kenny Williams]

You ain't getting that for 10 bucks. I do it. And that's. That's a joke. But the. At some point, you know, you can ask me questions that pass out halfway through that question that I can't answer. Get on Patreon. I'll and DM us and I'll send you that answer.

[Drew]

James De La Cruz. Brent Tyler, lead singer of the Fray.

[Kenny Williams]

I have to look at this.

[Brent Tucker]

Dude.

[Drew]

Why military movies don't end it with them trying to pass cif.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's a regular army issue. Apparently you guys didn't have to deal with that.

[Kenny Williams]

No.

[Tyler Hoover]

God, CIF sucks, dude. They down to the fucking beanie. You gotta own money if you don't have. It's cheaper to go to the army surplus store and buy what you don't have so the government won't charge you for it.

[Drew]

So for all of us who've never been in the military, what is cif?

[Tyler Hoover]

It's turned when you get out.

[Kenny Williams]

What does it stand for?

[Drew]

Central Issue Facility.

[Kenny Williams]

Central Issue Facility.

[Tyler Hoover]

Nice. Central. Yeah. And they do not play around. That's the worst part of getting out.

[Drew]

Leroy Jenkins, 133. Hey, Skinny. What's up? I guess that's Kenny.

[Kenny Williams]

Way to connect the dots.

[Drew]

That was a good one. Lord, Leroy. Hey, Skinny. What's up with sct? We love the training and the RAS checklist is our bible.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hey, you guys. That was weird.

[Kenny Williams]

What is sct?

[Tyler Hoover]

Street Cop training.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, sct. Street Cop training still around New Jersey. Kind of ruined it for that training group. Dennis is still a friend of mine and still going. I don't know exactly what happened to the RS checklist, but me, Mike Brazil and Heather Gogalich have broken away and started our own training.

[Kenny Williams]

And what is the RS checklist?

[Brent Tucker]

It's a reasonable articulable suspicion. Reasonable articulable suspicion checklist.

[Kenny Williams]

All right, nice.

[Brent Tucker]

But taking it at face value, it doesn't hold much value. You have to have, like, an understanding of interpreting it.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay.

[Brent Tucker]

So when it got into some other people's hands, it turned to shit pretty quick, I guess.

[Kenny Williams]

Okay.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. Okay.

[Drew]

All right. 47cr you great. Live in Philly. If you guys ever come to Connecticut, would love to treat you guys to cigars and drinks at my cigar lounge. Horsepower in Montville, Connecticut. Need to find 3rd Battalion. Was that Green Beret or GB?

[Kenny Williams]

I guess so.

[Drew]

Green bra, GB, Silver Star serve with in Afghanistan and O4. That's awesome. Horsepower Cigar Lounge.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Some first responder cigars.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. Email us about getting FRCC in your lounge if you haven't already. And also, if you want to host a live, email us about that. It's not very hard. We cover all the expenses with sponsors, so. But we have to have a host with the logistics. We can't do it here from Orlando. We have to have a hosting party. Like, it's looking like Jersey City is going to be the next one. And Guerrilla Warfare Tactical is going to host that whole thing.

[Kenny Williams]

Nice. Nice.

[Drew]

Also, just a reminder, that first sponsor cigar company will be in Apollo Beach, Florida, January 21st. That's this Tuesday night, 6pm and that's at Cigars on the Boulevard. Cigars on the Boulevard. 1438 Apollo Beach.

[Kenny Williams]

Look at you, Drew.

[Drew]

All right.

[Tyler Hoover]

It looks like he works for you.

[Drew]

All right.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, I'm gonna give that. That you. Yeah. You didn't tell me you were in the fray.

[Brent Tucker]

I know. Oh, I had to look it up, too. That's exact photo.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

I mean, that's his head and shoulders.

[Drew]

Issued as part of your equipment. Hubby retired 18D, 10th group. And he still uses it. Hey, Lori, one of our few ladies ladies.

[Kenny Williams]

If the medic uses it, you know it's good.

[Drew]

That's right. Tess, Burt. Thoughts on bortac? Can you try to get a Bortech guy on as a guest?

[Kenny Williams]

Do we have a Vortech guy coming on? We talked about that before.

[Drew]

We have.

[Tyler Hoover]

Who's the guy from. He was in the Mayans TV show. Vincent Rocco Vargas.

[Kenny Williams]

There you go. Yep.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't know if he was Bor tack per se, but he was Border patrol and he's expressed interest in wanting to come on the show. I think it's just really just Been a scheduling thing, but he would be our guy.

[Kenny Williams]

Never worked with him, but I've always heard good things about. I don't know if I've heard anything bad about those guys.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, they're. They're. They're. They're soft. Right. They're a specialized unit.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right, this is our last live chat that we have right now.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, we're caught up.

[Drew]

We're caught up.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right.

[Drew]

But this is a serious one from Shark Gang. Says Sergeant Butler was killed yesterday in a collision. Served Navasota department for four years. Army vet. Survived by wife and two sons. Witnesses say the driver was about to strike a car with a family, and he saved them.

[Tyler Hoover]

Wow.

[Kenny Williams]

Wow. Damn.

[Drew]

Prayers go out to Sergeant Butler and his family.

[Kenny Williams]

Thank you, Sergeant Butler, for your service. Gosh, that's heartbreaking.

[Tyler Hoover]

There's a hero, though. I mean, absolutely remember him like that. You know, I know it's. You gotta mourn, but. I mean, not his family, but all of us.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Mourn and then remember that he just saved the family.

[Kenny Williams]

No.

[Tyler Hoover]

Sacrifice himself.

[Kenny Williams]

I just came from a funeral of a friend of mine, ex operator, one of the greatest dudes I ever worked with, and he died in a. In a senseless incident. And that's. That's really tough to, you know, to wrap your mind around. Right. When you go out like that, it's never easy. By no means am I going to sit here and say, oh, you went out, like, so it's easy. No, it ain't easy. But, man, if. If you go out like that, you can. It's. It's a little bit more palatable. I mean, am I right?

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

With the human psyche.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. And that. And it. That he made the decision to do it, which means he would make the decision to do it. That's right. And to put a family in front of your own.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. The guy who lived.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. God, man. That's a true fucking warrior right there. That's. That's a true warrior. And, you know, your family's. Your wife's got to know every day that, you know, her husband is going out there and will put himself in front of harm and will put her without a husband before he puts another wife without a husband. And that just takes another kind of woman. So.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Props. Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

I think that's even the bigger decision. Like, you're with a wife and kids.

[Tyler Hoover]

Like, as a. Yeah.

[Brent Tucker]

You know what I'm saying?

[Kenny Williams]

Like.

[Brent Tucker]

Like, you know, that you're leaving them.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't know.

[Brent Tucker]

You're protecting a family, but leaving Your own.

[Tyler Hoover]

One second to decide it.

[Brent Tucker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

[Drew]

Greater love hath no man than give his life for his friends. Absolutely.

[Tyler Hoover]

Shout out to you Leo wives.

[Drew]

All right.

[Tyler Hoover]

This guy Heather. Love you.

[Drew]

When will FRCC products be in the commissary? We need a replacement for BRCC.

[Tyler Hoover]

BRCC's in the commissary.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm sure they are. And hey, that is a veteran. Like military focused coffee in a military base. Like that's, that's where it belongs. They should absolutely carry our bourbon pecan or our tier one. That's another, that's an. You know, it's another topic. But I think there's, I think there's room on the shelf.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm going to, I'm going to tell.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

All cops out there. You have the ability to go to your admin and say we need to carry first responder coffee company in our precincts and in our pro shops. It's that easy, you know.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

It's not a hard thing to fucking do. You guys do the bulk. I know you do Gorilla, the app that you use to do bulk orders.

[Kenny Williams]

Now a few departments do carry our coffee and, and cigars, believe it or not, in their cop shop. So I can't believe I've never said that or put two and two together because I'm a bad businessman. All the first responders as a cop shop, please reach out to FRCC and get us in your cop shop. Could you think that there's. I don't want to be in the commissary. That's for them. Let's support a brand that supports you. It should be in all your cop shops.

[Tyler Hoover]

Also if you are banging a nurse or married to a nurse. Every hospital has, has a first responder room. It is where paramedics, fire guys and cops go when they're at the hospital to get an energy drink, to get some caffeine, to get a bag of chips. They're always stocked with coffee. Have them go to their hospital admin and add FRCC to it.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm not even mad about this. Not breaking news or some sort of conspiracy theory but to me it's pretty unique. You know why they have those first responder rooms? I think we've talked about this before. I love first responders because they love first responders. So when a first responder has an option and we'll just make it an easy option, right. This hospital's two miles away this way. This hospital's two miles away that way. You know which you know which hospital you're going to?

[Tyler Hoover]

The one with the white monsters, baby.

[Kenny Williams]

That's right. The one with the better first responder room. And I'm not. That's brilliant marketing. So all they have to do is stock it with good coffee, some white snacks, and guess what they're gonna get 10,000, $20,000 of insurance money for whatever. There is no cheap trip to the hospital. And the only. And they can decide which. Which hospital this guy gets brought to just because they put out some lickies and chewies for the first responders. Brilliant. Brilliant.

[Tyler Hoover]

No, it's true. I mean, yeah, sometimes at three in the morning, you do not want a fucking white monster. You just want a warm cup of coffee.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah. Especially wintertime. Sure.

[Drew]

Especially in January. All right, Joseph Cox back in, says Tyler, same question. What made you start this podcast? What keeps you going when you don't see a problem?

[Tyler Hoover]

How'd you know starting this podcast.

[Drew]

Someone's been listening.

[Tyler Hoover]

It's really. It was to put balls back in. Cop work was what the original intent was is to go out there and say things in our industry that no one was saying and bring awareness to some of the shit that law enforcement officers go through as a whole. And it just bring awareness to it. And then, you know, we started touching on mental health and yeah, that was the start of the podcast. I just went out and spotted off out the mouth. It caught and then it grew.

[Kenny Williams]

And I don't mean this in a bad way, because I wouldn't did it. Go back and watch the very first episode of the anti hero podcast. Don't you be ashamed of that. Because. Because I'll tell you why. You'll see what Tyler. But not me. You'll see what Tyler started and then you'll see what it's. What it's turned into. And people think. And we talked about this on your podcast with business. People can think and look at the Anti Hero podcast right now and be like, oh, you guys are. Are big or great. Hopefully you think that of us and you just. And this is all you know of us. Go back to episode one and that's. That's where it started. And that's where things start. They don't start big. Huge. Nice. Good. You start there and hopefully you're, you know, a master of your profession and it gets here. So, yeah, go. Go watch it.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'm pretty sure the mics weren't working.

[Kenny Williams]

Even. Even better. Even better.

[Tyler Hoover]

You'll. You'll watch it go. There's a microphone in his face, but it sounds like Holy shit.

[Kenny Williams]

That's what episode one should look like. If, if, if your episode one looks like this, you're doing it wrong.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, that's true.

[Kenny Williams]

Unless you're rich or star faking it.

[Tyler Hoover]

And we, we kind of touched upon it, like, go, go hit it with talent or not talent. Hit it with real stuff. Don't hit it. Don't go buy $5,000 worth of production equipment and then not have anything to back it with. Go take a microphone and just start talking. And if it's good, it's good.

[Kenny Williams]

That's right. People think so much. Like all this matters. What matters is you, your topics, your content. That's what matters. Like this should grow with it and with you. Yes. But you can do all this at the beginning and just not have a good product. And, and it's. And this isn't going to get you there.

[Tyler Hoover]

No, it's not.

[Brent Tucker]

I think you appreciate it more too when you start out, oh, 100% and then you see the growth over time. You know, we started and then you go back and look how poorly it was made. So then it gets better.

[Kenny Williams]

We didn't grow right into our own place. We went from your office at your house to magnets at Lion Arms Shop. We were recording podcasts at a Lion Arms.

[Tyler Hoover]

And then we went to the FRCC warehouse. And then now, finally, two years later, over two years later, we have our own studio.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Drew]

What keeps you going when you don't see a profit?

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, man. At that time it was, it was just, it was fun. And I. It's still. This is so much fun. But you say really good.

[Kenny Williams]

It's a different fun.

[Tyler Hoover]

It is a job. Every single day you're doing stuff to prep for either the Monday episode or you're prepping for the Thursday live. And that's. And we're doing things on top of this now to grow everything and to grow and network with other podcasts. But I mean, the back end of editing when you first start sucks. It sucks. You're doing hours upon hours and you're there now.

[Brent Tucker]

Yes, it sucks.

[Tyler Hoover]

Now we have, here at Antihero, we have the technology and the manpower to where back end editing is really just a couple hours.

[Drew]

But you're doing that every day. But it's still a couple hours of being a deputy sheriff.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's fair. Yeah. I still got a day job.

[Kenny Williams]

And it's one thing when you have the stress of yourself saying, we need to put out an episode every Monday, but at the end of the day, if we didn't make that episode every Monday. It's just a stress we put on ourselves now. Like, we have contractual.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah.

[Kenny Williams]

Things in place that we have, like, that force us. It's a whole nother, like, level of external stress.

[Tyler Hoover]

I mean, dude, the stress of Monday morning. I something up every time. Every time. I. I mean, I don't want to say what it was because it's pretty embarrassing, but, I mean, the last one, I fucked up pretty bad. I. Brent, caught it within a couple hours. There was one where I misspelled a word. On the Marine Raider episode, Nick Jones, I misspelled something. Go watch. Go look at it. When we put this stuff, I use an A instead of an E. I think it was a misspelled a word.

[Drew]

I mean, it's there forever. Even tonight, the live title is in 2024. I mean.

[Tyler Hoover]

That'S something. We can't. We can't fix that. I don't know what is that?

[Drew]

Really?

[Tyler Hoover]

Is that what it still says?

[Drew]

Yeah, it says January 16, 2024. Sorry. Everybody's putting them on their chest.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, my God. Yeah, that was me. That was me.

[Kenny Williams]

Sorry.

[Tyler Hoover]

Fucking retard.

[Drew]

Everybody's putting them on their checks. Those who write checks anymore.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right.

[Drew]

Polite designs. He says, Bert, you missed my question. I don't know if it was the question about the book or if he put in another question. We didn't see it.

[Kenny Williams]

I hate messing up with Polite design.

[Tyler Hoover]

Play.

[Drew]

Try put it in a regular chat. I'll try to look for it.

[Kenny Williams]

Plays a regular capital R. That's all I got. Oh, I've been here since episode 10. Wasn't a super chat, but, man, it's worth reading.

[Drew]

Oh, wait.

[Tyler Hoover]

Episode 10.

[Kenny Williams]

That's what he said. Shadow.

[Drew]

Brian and Shadow.

[Tyler Hoover]

On what?

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh. Brian and Terry. Don't forget Skinny. Been watching the show since the beginning. Love the show, boys. Got a classic question. Gay son or thought daughter?

[Tyler Hoover]

Man, What's a thought daughter? Slut.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh.

[Tyler Hoover]

Oh, God. Why do you have to do that?

[Kenny Williams]

Okay, you're gonna answer it. You're good. But you only have one of the two, so it's a little bit. Maybe it's harder to answer, but I.

[Brent Tucker]

Don'T have any kids, so I'm not answering this.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't know. I don't know how to answer this question.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm going go Thought daughter. And I'm going to tell you why.

[Tyler Hoover]

She'll still get into heaven.

[Kenny Williams]

Everyone. Everyone makes this joke.

[Tyler Hoover]

Just kidding.

[Kenny Williams]

Everyone.

[Tyler Hoover]

No one laughed except you.

[Kenny Williams]

Everyone.

[Tyler Hoover]

It was a joke. It was a joke.

[Drew]

Except the passion.

[Kenny Williams]

Except everyone makes mistakes. And the day. Just because that's what they are now doesn't mean what they're always going to be. And I. I can deal with a thought daughter more than I can a gay son when. When eventually, with enough time, energy, and effort and love, they get back on the right track. That's my answer.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right, here's my answer.

[Drew]

And restrictions.

[Tyler Hoover]

A gay son I would still love like a son. So I. You know, you can blame your upbringing. You can blame your parenting. You can blame whatever a gay son is. Something that you. Is. Would be hard. But you can still teach him to be the man. I mean, he could still be a man. But, you know, I. There's arguments on.

[Drew]

Can you be a man when another.

[Kenny Williams]

Man'S doing that to you?

[Tyler Hoover]

No, you'd be the man doing it to the man.

[Kenny Williams]

Now, we need to know which. Which side is on.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right? He's got to be the pitcher, and I'm gonna teach him how to be the pitcher. But, I mean, it's your side. You're not gonna. You're not gonna not love your son. I don't care. I don't care.

[Drew]

This just got incestuous.

[Tyler Hoover]

You don't have kids. You don't have kids.

[Kenny Williams]

My kids. 28.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is he gay?

[Kenny Williams]

She is a.

[Tyler Hoover]

Is she a.

[Kenny Williams]

Thought.

[Tyler Hoover]

She was.

[Kenny Williams]

She was. Damn. I'll put this out right real quick, because Nate just text me from Valhalla vft. Who. I'm still upset. Got to a hundred thousand subscribers before we did. It's a healthy competition. It's a healthy competition.

[Tyler Hoover]

I mean, we don't know. We didn't buy him the.

[Kenny Williams]

Yeah, we don't know if he. If he bought him or not. He sucks me right now. He can defend himself if he wants. The. Hey. He said he's. He said. Oh, well, I'm a hint it. Okay. It's about the medal of honor thing, and he has something to put out tomorrow about it that I think is pretty juicy, and it's juicy enough. I'll be watching it. So be sure to tune into the Valhalla VFT podcast tomorrow, and I guess we'll all find out together.

[Tyler Hoover]

Hey, Nate, tell Jeremy Travels I said, what's up?

[Drew]

El Hefe says I tried to attach a link to donations to Sergeant Butler's family here, but won't allow. Please see what I posted in the normal chat. Butler is a true hero.

[Tyler Hoover]

So look for El Jefe Instagram, Instagram it to us and we'll share the story. Just send it via Email or something. Because these chats go away.

[Kenny Williams]

Let me tell you, if there's. There's essentially 2,000 people watching. If everyone in here went and they just googled Sergeant Butler donations, you will find it. Please follow us and. And make sure if you're too lazy to do that and then follow us and find the link. If everyone just donated $5, that's $10,000. Anti Hero podcast and you know, our listeners can raise for them. Make it $10. That's $20,000. Guys. Do something good for the community. Don't just watch a drama follow up. Do something good for the community. I'm going to do it.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right, couple more. Two more super chats.

[Drew]

All right, 3G mage. Rip Anders or America. Okay, I tried to do the rip thing correctly. This time. They got me. Rip Anders. America lost a good one.

[Kenny Williams]

America lost the best one. God, I wish I could do. Wish you could do a podcast on that guy's life.

[Drew]

Question for Kenny, what do you think street cops can do to help combat the demand side of the drug equation? Also, if you are a cop and haven't taken Kenny's training, you're missing out.

[Kenny Williams]

Nice. Papa Penguin.

[Brent Tucker]

Papa Penguin, what can we do to combat the demand side? Man, I think I don't even.

[Kenny Williams]

That's a good question. Yeah, that's a deep one. It's a hard one. But you have to answer it because.

[Brent Tucker]

I mean, I always look at the nucleus of the family, and I feel like once we start to break that apart, you do things that you necessarily wouldn't do if you had mother and father in the same household and that might get too.

[Tyler Hoover]

I'll philosophy or whatever. No, you're right. And even if you can't keep the nuclear family together, a father being present is enough. I even say this. A father locked up in prison with communication with their kid is better than fucking no father whatsoever.

[Brent Tucker]

I agree.

[Drew]

Thought daughters and gay sons are more likely to do drugs. All right, left nut 36 turdler is going to teach his gay son to get the duty hole just like his dad.

[Kenny Williams]

Does. The car, the drapes, the carpet match.

[Tyler Hoover]

God, you leave my kid out of it.

[Kenny Williams]

Jesus Christ. You're asking if. If my. If the gray in my beard is as populated as the gray downstairs? That's the carpet match mentioned. The. The.

[Tyler Hoover]

That's a. That's a Patreon question.

[Kenny Williams]

Man. There's my. My beard is grayer. I feel like every episode. I mean, not like you, magnet. You. Your beard's ridiculously gray.

[Drew]

I don't think he's talking color. I think he's talking volume.

[Kenny Williams]

I should have got volume.

[Drew]

I think he's going for bush.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh. Oh, no, no, no. Not a snug.

[Tyler Hoover]

All right, we got one more super chat and we are done.

[Drew]

We're done. Brandon is the last one. If we're going with screwed up ultimatum questions.

[Kenny Williams]

Perfect. Last question.

[Drew]

This one came from one of my butter bars. A finger in the pee hole or fist in the pooper? Oh, dang.

[Tyler Hoover]

God. It's not gay. I'll take. I'll go through the pain.

[Drew]

This one's out.

[Tyler Hoover]

I don't. But if you take a finger in your pee hole, your pee hole is never going to be the same.

[Kenny Williams]

How big?

[Tyler Hoover]

So assuming that it goes back to normal, it.

[Brent Tucker]

I'm doing the finger in the peel.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah. I feel like I can gay.

[Kenny Williams]

What's. Oh, what's gayer than a man putting up messing with your junk? A fist.

[Tyler Hoover]

And that's hole is gayer. 100.

[Brent Tucker]

Could it be a female putting it.

[Tyler Hoover]

It's.

[Kenny Williams]

It's going to be a female. And he. They didn't specify, so I'm going to specify.

[Tyler Hoover]

You're going to get fisted by a female.

[Drew]

I'm going to get a fist by an action hero.

[Kenny Williams]

By an action hero.

[Drew]

Like a little toy.

[Kenny Williams]

Gosh.

[Drew]

They didn't. They didn't specify. They didn't specify when or where.

[Brent Tucker]

Just a little GI Joe fist.

[Drew]

That's all I need.

[Tyler Hoover]

True.

[Kenny Williams]

It's. It's my answer. I don't know. I don't know why I'm. I didn't mock your answers. Gosh.

[Tyler Hoover]

Delta Force wants to get fisted.

[Kenny Williams]

I just said I had a different story. That's all. I said I had a different story.

[Tyler Hoover]

We did run with it.

[Drew]

New content for the YouTubers out there.

[Tyler Hoover]

Yeah, there's a lot of great clips created by tonight, but again, thanks guys for joining us. Every Thursday, 8pm Eastern Standard Time.

[Kenny Williams]

I'm on it.

[Tyler Hoover]

We got the hate breed ready.

[Kenny Williams]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler Hoover]

Monday morning, 7:00am Eastern Standard Time. The new episode will be out. And join us next Thursday live. We'll have Reagan with conduct unbecoming.

[Kenny Williams]

Nice skinny. Thanks for coming on, man. Thanks for the podcast. Thanks for staying for the live. Thank you boys for coming out.

[Tyler Hoover]

As always, appreciate it.

[Kenny Williams]

I am going to hang out for just a few more minutes. Here we go. Here we go. It was just working and it's connected. How could it do that?

[Tyler Hoover]

Damn, bro, it was perfect. You had it.

[Kenny Williams]

I know. And I even made sure that it's.

[Tyler Hoover]

Perseverance too, so what happened?

[Drew]

Try all these buttons.

[Kenny Williams]

Everyone better be off the Bluetooth.

[Tyler Hoover]

Am I on the Bluetooth? I don't know.

[Kenny Williams]

Someone. Hope I am. Someone took it from me. I feel like I'm going to blame someone else. Can't blame myself.

[Tyler Hoover]

Blame me. Well, this is awkward.

[Kenny Williams]

You bet.

[Tyler Hoover]

It's coming through your.