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Brent
There it is. This is a first step. Ready?
Tyler
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Brent
That's it.
Tyler
That's it.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
Well done, Tyler.
Tyler
Thanks.
Brent
Nailed it.
Andy
Love it.
Tyler
I don't have much to say. I'm really close to you guys. I feel like I can feel what.
Brent
You'Re thinking, know what to say before 8:05.
Tyler
I know y'all are late. Welcome.
Brent
Oh, how the turns have tabled.
Tyler
Well, we got a hell of a. Hell of an episode for you, but it's mainly going to be fielding questions about Andy and how much of a Democrat he is.
Drew
Closet Democrats. He's breaking it down. As I have been told. I don't identify as that, but I.
Brent
Have been told that, yeah, we're gonna. That's. There's a political change where everyone, like, I identify as this when they're not. But you are something that you don't identify as.
Drew
I don't even know if I switch.
Tyler
To the train tables.
Drew
But, yes, I'll agree with you.
Brent
I don't know if I was smarter than that. I'm either, like, really smart feeling right now or like. No, I explained that in an idiotic way that no one could follow. That's probably the last.
Drew
I think you're good.
Brent
Okay.
Drew
It's a confusing time.
Tyler
Very fluid.
Brent
It's confusing for everyone. We're in a hot tub. This isn't just a pool, guys. This is a hot tub. This is how far we've come. We just splurge. We're just splurging money.
Tyler
We're just throwing it in their faces at this point.
Drew
Full disclosure, I was not aware that there was a hot tub involved in this.
Brent
No, this.
Drew
Brent holding his camera awkwardly in front of his chest as if he was filming something. He said, hey, let's go do a mic check in the studio. And this is what I was presented with. So here we are.
Tyler
I think he picked up on it when after we filmed the studio session, we're just sitting in there and he goes. And then you close the door and he goes, are they having a secret meeting in there or something?
Drew
I was like, what's going on in the skiff?
Brent
The skiff? Yeah. So we did a recorded session with Andy, and we had a couple hours between it got being done and starting this. And we Redid the whole studio and brought it in a hot tub. And it was. I would say I've been training my whole life logistically to pull off an operation like this.
Tyler
Yeah, it was pretty good. When did you start?
Brent
Give us the time?
Drew
When they closed the door, obviously.
Tyler
Well, technically you walked by the tarp to go to the bathroom.
Brent
This was in.
Drew
I just assumed you guys had a warehouse of old tires underneath. That was actually my first thought.
Brent
Me and Drew came in last night and did a full like dry run rehearsal on this to make sure there were no hiccups.
Andy
It wasn't dry, I'll tell you that.
Brent
What water?
Tyler
I thought it was funny, Drew.
Andy
Thank you, buddy.
Brent
Obviously that's almost just ruin people's jokes.
Andy
Now.
Brent
If anyone has a good joke, I'm just gonna say. What?
Tyler
Stop trying to make that a thing. That's not funny.
Andy
You can't call it a wet run. That. That just sounds good. We did a wet run. No, it's not the same.
Brent
No, I don't like the sound of that.
Andy
Sorry.
Drew
Why?
Tyler
Let's hit it with you.
Andy
It's gonna be a super chats night tonight, guys. It's for the boys. Evan, Justin, every. With everything happening at the border, you should bring on Ed Calderon, former counter narco in a special police unit. He's wealth of knowledge.
Brent
Here's the thing. I would, but normally I'd have to write that down in my book and I can't do that in the hot tub. Yeah. So getting that to happen is going to be tough. But we'll try.
Tyler
Does he answer his Instagram?
Andy
Oh, you know, Vanessa's gonna write it down.
Brent
Yeah, Vanessa, write that down.
Drew
So I've had him ironclad. Thank you for now that I have done. He knows what he's talking about for sure.
Tyler
Yeah, I did see him on Joe. Joe Rogan. He has been on Sean Ryan.
Drew
Yeah, he I suspect would be pretty responsive to people reaching out to talk show what's currently going on.
Brent
What. What other pod? Joe Rogan. You never heard of her? Interesting. Have you you. How many times you been on Joe's show?
Drew
I don't know.
Brent
More than. More than 1?
Drew
Yes.
Brent
Less than 10?
Drew
Yes.
Andy
For sure.
Brent
Okay, we're narrowing it down. Is it basically the same thing every time or did you feel like the growth of his show of sorts the more you're on there? Just felt like the same to you every time.
Drew
So I know Joe outside of the podcast, so it's a little bit different. It's more like sitting down with a friend. Having said that, there is. You do feel a change in the gravity. Not literally, of course, metaphorically. When you walk into a studio and you close the door and I do my best, I just kind of repeat my normal mantra. It's like, don't say anything dumb. Don't say anything dumb. Don't say anything dumb. And then I generally do right after that. But I do my best. You are aware of the audience size for sure.
Brent
But I do appreciate when you came in, you saw how cool our studio is that you're like, this is the coolest studio I've ever been in.
Drew
He doesn't have a hot tub that I love. He might, but, yeah, he didn't do this.
Brent
We're coming for you, Joe.
Drew
I don't think he'll ever do this, just for clarity, but, yeah, you have him on that. He's never done this. Likely will never do it.
Brent
And it's that type of lack of creativity that's going hindering his performance.
Tyler
We need to work on it a little bit.
Drew
Keep going, Joe.
Brent
You'll get there. I'm excited. This is what we signed up for. This is what we're here for.
Andy
Who knows? Maybe Rojan will be watching this and get some ideas. All right, Iceman. 10 bucks. Glad we are in the pool for the natural habitat of Andy.
Drew
I peed as soon as I got in here. My God.
Brent
That is a lot of questions. It doesn't stop.
Andy
All right, if I missed you, I'll.
Brent
Get back with you.
Andy
Flight Designs is back in a wet run is what you do when you have the Hershey squirts. Burton, Taylor. Good to see you on time, Randy. Oh, already gut name change.
Tyler
People used to up our names all the time because we weren't popular enough to for the amount of, like, devastation we were doing to the Internet. So then what does it have to.
Drew
Do with them knowing your name?
Tyler
They tried knowing our name, but they. They were like Taylor and Brent. Brandt. Yeah, Brandt.
Brent
Now it's become a running joke just to completely screw up our names all the time. Yeah.
Andy
So, and Randy, what's one of the funniest pranks or things you've seen in the teams? Our favorite was putting IDs in water bottles.
Drew
So it's not bad, but that's pretty bush.
Brent
That's Ray Bush. How do you get an ID in a water bottle?
Drew
You're gonna have to really, really compress it up and then slide it in there.
Brent
Yeah.
Tyler
How do they get the ships in the water bottles? Those are class.
Drew
Nobody knows.
Brent
Oh, that was deep. For you?
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Okay.
Drew
There was one of the commands that I was at. Had a vicious prank culture, and it.
Brent
Was vicious prank clock. I mean, they can get out of hand.
Drew
I mean, yeah, we're talking live flashbangs, pins pulled underneath people's shoes, which is not safe even from a hearing perspective. Vision. Perspective. No, perspective isn't safe. But I. I mean, I've seen top secret shredder bags, and I mean huge bags. And if you've ever seen a top secret shredder, it comes out, it's the finest. Dumped through sunroofs, filling cars completely to the window line. I have seen people shit in styrofoam cups, freeze it, poke a hole in the bottom, and then put it on the top of somebody's cage so it would melt and drip down.
Andy
MacGyver stuff. Right.
Drew
Now, I've seen Zodiacs put inside of people's cages and then inflated with the Spiva bottles. So it's like bending everything out. It was gnarly.
Tyler
Oh, man.
Drew
It's just welded shut. I mean, the whole nine.
Brent
On my oda, I ate a flashbang while on. While on the toilet. It is not good for your hearing. It rocked me because it's such a confined space. I actually thought we had just gotten mortared. That's because. I mean, how would I know? I was actually reading a magazine, so I didn't see them place it. So the only thing I hear is white light, ears ringing. Yeah, I'm completely disoriented. I thought we got hit by a mortar.
Drew
I guarantee you somewhere on a safety manual for a flashbang, it says don't use in a bathroom. Maybe for real life, but for training purposes, I guarantee that violates every safety.
Brent
Principle it really should. I was pretty mad about that one, actually. I was pretty mad about that one. Which only made it funnier to them.
Tyler
Yeah. Would you rather have that or would you rather have your locker welded shut when you needed to get in?
Brent
I can't hear you. Got to talk to the mic.
Tyler
Would you rather have it welded?
Brent
Yes. I would almost rather have anything that he just listed than that. A human lifelong hearing problems, even though those are all. I don't want any of that done to me.
Drew
And as soon as you participated, it was game on. You knew that. So I think at best you were hoping to be a non combatant.
Brent
And here's the thing. I was the prank starter and so. But all my shenanigans were funny and humorous.
Tyler
Like their shenanigans, they were towards other people. So they were totally Fine.
Brent
Correct. Correct. Yeah.
Andy
All right. We got practical and tactile. Why, boys, Just why talk to these.
Drew
Two chuckleheads about that?
Brent
I'm asking the same question right now. And it was my idea.
Tyler
I did think we'd have a lot more space, but I did look at this without us in it and think, oh, we have a lot of space. And then you two got in. I was like, oh, wow. No, there's not enough space.
Andy
Oh, y'all gonna make sugar cookies when you get out of the pool?
Brent
No, I will. I will let you guys know. We. We do have a scandally clad lifeguard on call for 500. On the super chat, you said 500 would get you over here, so I'm sin. Just let. I'm just calling your bluff.
Tyler
You can wear your man pants.
Andy
That's it.
Brent
No, I said scandally clad.
Andy
All right, ultimate female warrior. I'm gonna be looking for bubbles the entire time.
Tyler
That's fair.
Drew
We have bubbles. We can turn bubbles on.
Brent
Yeah, we have bubbles.
Andy
I don't think those are the bubbles they're looking for, Randy.
Brent
But I just want to show them how. I just want to flex a little bit. We splurged on everything.
Andy
Get it.
Brent
Let's get it. Come on. Give it to me. Give it to me.
Drew
It's not gotta unlock.
Andy
Hit the unlock button.
Brent
What? Who locked it?
Andy
It doesn't.
Brent
You got child locks on this?
Andy
It does it by itself.
Brent
Whoa. Whoa. Yeah, it's probably a good idea, you guys put the child locks on there.
Drew
We might want to lock that back up.
Tyler
Yeah, okay.
Andy
All right.
Drew
All right.
Andy
James Smith. 50 bucks, man. Thank you for the. For the love. We really appreciate it. Andy, if you had to choose one, because we got a water bill to pay now. Andy, if you had to choose one, which would it be, and why? Ride the cuck chair.
Drew
Are you gonna pretend like you don't know what that is?
Andy
I don't know. The cup chair.
Brent
That's okay.
Drew
You legitimately don't know this.
Andy
I legitimately do not know.
Brent
Finish the question, but then I want you to take your best guess at that. Right.
Andy
Ride the cup chair from duck till dawn or be a gay vampire stranded on a deserted island with Steven Seagall. Interesting.
Brent
Interesting.
Drew
It actually is a very good question. What do you think a cuck chair is?
Andy
A cup chair I've never heard of.
Brent
You don't know.
Tyler
You know what a cup chair is? That's weirder than me not knowing what a cupcake.
Drew
You don't know either.
Tyler
I don't think so.
Brent
We gotta Pull the room. Devin, do you know what a cuck chair is?
Andy
Or a cuckold?
Drew
It starts off with a cuckold.
Tyler
I know what a cuckold is. But that's a.
Drew
What do you think?
Brent
Yes.
Drew
Let's put two and two together.
Tyler
Oh, it's just a regular chair that a cuck sits in.
Brent
Yes.
Drew
Thank you.
Tyler
Okay. All right.
Brent
Well, Drew, what is a cuck?
Andy
I don't know. I really have no idea.
Drew
Cuckold.
Andy
A cuckold.
Drew
Cuckold is a man who enjoys watching his significant other get plowed.
Andy
And that's why I know nothing about it.
Brent
And it's hard.
Drew
Thank you.
Tyler
You're not the weird one for not knowing it.
Drew
Y'all are weird for knowing that.
Brent
I've never done cocaine, but I know what cocaine is.
Drew
This is broad, general, worldly knowledge.
Andy
I'd rather do cocaine.
Brent
That wasn't an either or.
Andy
That was just get it out. Pass me some pow.
Brent
Okay.
Andy
Well, Andy's still gotta answer the question.
Drew
I mean, let's see here.
Tyler
A. I think the gay vampire.
Drew
I am not okay with sitting there watching somebody have sex with my wife. So that's out.
Andy
Right.
Drew
I'm also not okay with being a gay vampire. Let me be clear on that. So this is definitely the lesser of two either.
Andy
All right.
Drew
He takes C. Yeah, obviously, I probably would say, hey, is there an answer? C. But given those two.
Brent
Yeah, you gotta answer those two.
Tyler
Gun to your head.
Drew
I'm gonna go with gay vampire. Cause one, you live forever, and then you're there with Steven Seal.
Andy
Just stop being gay.
Brent
But you live gay forever. You're a gay vampire.
Tyler
No, you can turn forever. You don't have to be gay forever. All right.
Brent
Donut Ch.
Andy
Thank you, brother. Thank you very much. Justin, you are the man. George says, Andy, please tell a javelin story.
Brent
You got a javelin story short.
Drew
Do you want a dog javelin story or a missile jab? Why does it have to be short?
Andy
It's 4.99.
Tyler
They're being cheap.
Brent
If you have a dog javelin story, what's my dog's name?
Tyler
Oh, are you strapped to his back?
Drew
I'm trying to let my wife buy it. Let me buy another one named Carl. Gustav named Carl and javelin.
Brent
Oh, that's awesome. That's. What? Would you have a real javelin story? I do.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
What do you got?
Drew
Trying to think. I think I shot 13 of those things on my last deployment. It was more a measure because that's what we had, and I was the only one who knew how to use them, which was Beneficial.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
Long story short, people who like to sit out in ranges they think are beyond effective small arms fire and report on your position with the radio sometimes will experience either direct or top attack mode, and it inhibits their ability to talk on the radio.
Brent
I will say this. I would rather fire 12 javelins than 3 Carl G's.
Drew
I would rather fire 12 javelins than any Carl G's. Those things rock you.
Brent
They're the worst. They are the worst.
Drew
The Javelin, I think, is technically recoilless. I mean, it just spits out of the tube and then the explosion. Accelerant goes off. Yeah, there's no. It's the exact opposite of a Carl G. Yeah.
Brent
It's actually so kind of docile. It's actually startling how docile it is because you're. You're expecting, like.
Drew
Yeah, yeah.
Brent
And the Carl G is the exact opposite of that. Even. Even the first time you fire, they're going to tell you this thing's horrible, and you're not prepared for how horrible this thing is.
Drew
Agreed.
Andy
All right. I like this. Text by M. All the tech problems y'all have and you choose to bring water into the mix.
Tyler
Did you put that, Devin?
Brent
That's good.
Drew
That's the microphone into the water.
Brent
Before we started, we didn't dip the microphone.
Tyler
You know what's funny is a crazy one like this. There's no tech problems. The microphone works episode. There's always problems.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
We just found out you can drop a microphone in the water and still work.
Tyler
Yeah, we wouldn't suggest.
Drew
I would clarify that. And say partially submerged for a very.
Brent
Brief period of time.
Tyler
He's learned to pick his words carefully.
Drew
I would not say drop into the water.
Tyler
If I could say that differently, what.
Drew
I would say was, it happens.
Andy
Well, all right. And also, rest in peace to Drew's sound effects buttons. Long live the Drew.
Brent
All right, There is a sound. They're your weapons free here on a Thursday night. Drew, you send it. This ain't recorded.
Andy
All right. Fmk, Tyler, Brent, Andy. FMK, comma, M comma, K. Oh, how did you.
Brent
Chris. Chris is coming strong on this episode. A Wealth of Useless Knowledge.
Drew
Are you supposed to present?
Tyler
You're supposed to give us options.
Brent
So. So you have to F.1, marry one, and kill the other.
Drew
But don't they have to give us three people? Oh, that's going to say you have to present. Or is he saying we have to answer with ourselves?
Brent
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Drew
You give them three options, right?
Brent
Yeah. You guys decide, well, we're going to Take advantage of. Of a poorly ordered question and be able to skip out on it.
Andy
Butt Crack Malone, back in the game. Pro tip.
Drew
This is a good tip, though.
Andy
Pro tip. Don't cook bacon with your shirt off.
Drew
That is a legitimate.
Brent
That's a good tip.
Tyler
Thank you. Public service. Now, I've done it before.
Brent
And if you grew up as white trash as we did, also, don't cook spam with your shirt off. Similar effect.
Andy
Why can you not have your shirt off?
Drew
Have you never cooked?
Andy
Yeah, I've cooked bacon. Oh, you talking about the grease?
Brent
Yes.
Andy
Be smart about it, people. I mean, it's okay. I get it. All right, Parm actual. At last, Mr. Randy Dump. Welcome to the super chat homo.
Drew
How many times do people mess up here?
Brent
Every time.
Drew
Legitimately, Every time.
Brent
And they'll do it different now. Their game is like, how. How.
Tyler
How crazy can they get it? But close.
Brent
Yeah, it's gonna be hard to top Randy.
Andy
With the dad joke. I like it. It's a vegetable. Just soup. Like what you did there.
Brent
Okay. All right. All right.
Andy
Already read that one, John Todd.
Brent
I hate that one.
Drew
Oh, yes.
Brent
Better than hot dog flavored water.
Andy
Oh, we saw this in the email.
Brent
Okay, this one right there. Hi, Andy. Okay, I just saw it. Hold on.
Drew
Get into character, Andy. Send it. Sell. Sell it.
Brent
All right. When did you know that SEAL Team 6 was the JV team?
Drew
Okay, good question. I've been asked.
Brent
I know it was.
Drew
I've been asked this before. Do you know what all SEAL Team 6 members and Delta Force members have in common?
Brent
Wieners.
Drew
They all wish they were at Seal Team 6.
Tyler
Next question. I can't. Chance commented, but I lost it.
Drew
Wow, this is. I'll find it fascinating how you guys go through this.
Andy
Well, the problem is, is the system will make it jump to the end. And then I got.
Tyler
I think Vanessa said that she was doing the spreadsheet thing.
Andy
She is, but it's faster to do it this way.
Tyler
All right. Oh, there you go. Just in case.
Brent
All right.
Tyler
I think we left off a chance. I can't. Yeah, there.
Brent
Yep. Shout out to Andy, whose face. Go ahead, Drew. All right.
Andy
Shout out to Andy, whose face legitimately looks like he was just kidnapped. New girlfriend's brothers. They're in the headlights. You boys look like Mexico.
Drew
This is a first for sure for me. And here, consensually, if I need to blink out of sequence, I will, and somebody can come find me. But other than that, we're doing okay.
Andy
Says. Oh, cool. Tummy sticks. Can I play? This is Tim Kennedy's. Conscience.
Drew
That's not true.
Andy
Who's the power bottom?
Brent
Who's the power bottom and power bottom.
Andy
Even the pastor knows that.
Drew
Actual God. How do you not know all these.
Tyler
How much porn do you watch, Andy?
Drew
I don't watch any. This stuff has just made a massive difference in my life. Understanding the vernacular that we can nav through the world with.
Brent
So I. I'm a little bit confused on this. So I get like a power top.
Tyler
That makes sense.
Brent
So how. How are you powerful as the bottom?
Tyler
Maybe you're just.
Drew
I think it means preferential position.
Brent
Like you're still the man. The relationship on the bottom.
Tyler
Yes. I believe how a man and woman have sex. A man's on the bottom.
Brent
Useless knowledge for you. It means the bottom is doing all the work. Yeah, the bottom's doing all the work there. Really? Yeah.
Andy
Power bottom.
Brent
Right. Can you confirm? Confirm. Okay. All right.
Andy
It's been confirmed.
Brent
All right.
Drew
Somebody Google that and. Not my account.
Brent
Right. Not only are we.
Tyler
Not.
Brent
Not only are we entertaining, we're. We're educational and informative.
Drew
Who is the power bottom in all.
Andy
The right and wrong ways? All right. Bryce woods, my favorite. Scott stat.
Drew
That's when I get over.
Andy
If you know, you know.
Brent
Yes. Yeah, I can see that. Just.
Drew
Just long hair for a while.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
First off, Creed's fucking awesome. And if you don't think so, then you have no taste in music. I would go see them in concert if they ever come close to where I live because they're back on tour again. Buy their tickets now with Nickelback.
Brent
Are they with Nickelback? Oh, we're in.
Drew
So here's something.
Brent
We're in.
Drew
Everybody likes to hate on Nickelback. I've heard they have a net worth of around $200 million. So there's some people really publicly hating on Nickelback, but there's a lot of support.
Tyler
Yes.
Brent
I saw a Nickelback shirt that was hilarious. It said Nickelback fan or liar? And that's about. You're either a fan or you're lying.
Drew
Yeah. By itself.
Tyler
Wait, you said Metallica is going to Tampa?
Brent
Yes, Metallica's going to Tampa.
Tyler
How about this? How about we go and we take a Patreon member or two with us?
Drew
That'd be very.
Brent
Yes, I'm already in. Yes. Yeah. Can you give. Give me. Sing me. Just real quick. Give me a creed. Give me a. Give me a creed. Not lyric. Give me a. Yeah. Yeah.
Drew
That's what it would be.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
I mean, higher is one of their well known songs. The only line I know from is can. Is it? Can you take me higher? Something like that. Yeah.
Andy
Yeah.
Brent
Come on, get into it. Hold my knife.
Drew
I actually can't sound like him at.
Tyler
All, but apparently I look like I.
Drew
Have no musical ability whatsoever. But apparently if I grow my hair out, I look like Scott's.
Andy
All right. Veteran biker says, will the water be used for black rifle energy drinks?
Drew
If it's your preferred way to have it in your energy drink, Ben, by all means, have it however you want.
Andy
Special brew.
Brent
Special brew.
Andy
All right, Kaz. Nave. I've been waiting for this one for a while, and the boys didn't disappoint. Now I've got to awkwardly hide this election under my office desk. No bathroom breaks for me, thanks.
Brent
From Australia. From down under.
Andy
Under the desk. All right. Evening, gents. Kenneth Matt Dardell of Speak the Truth on YouTube has a $5 million civil lawsuit against the chann himself. Anyway, y'all can contact him to get him on to expand the support and help a former Green Beret.
Drew
Do you guys know anything about this?
Brent
No. And has a lawsuit on it. On himself Can.
Tyler
He's suing himself.
Brent
Yeah. Devon, you on that? Can you. Can you Google that and. And shed some light on that and himself. That sounds odd, but it does sound like when Dennis Rodman married himself. Sounds like. Sounds like it'd be a good PR stunt.
Drew
I think, though, what they're saying is that there's. It's a civil lawsuit against the channel. So it's a combined civil lawsuit. Yeah.
Tyler
He's being sued also.
Drew
As long as him and the channel.
Tyler
We're just doing himself 5.
Drew
Can you do that, man?
Brent
Wow.
Tyler
What do you do?
Drew
Yeah.
Tyler
Hopefully he has an llc.
Brent
I want to know.
Andy
All right, Scott, with the public service announcement. Announcement. Be careful with them, Mike's boys. Don't be like the pastor who was electrocuted in a baptismal pool down in Waco town, Texas.
Drew
That's true.
Brent
I remember.
Andy
Yeah.
Drew
Was he electrocuted by it?
Brent
Yep.
Andy
The microphone fell in the water.
Drew
Does it really push enough juice to have that happen?
Andy
I I. That one did. I don't know if these do.
Drew
I don't think there's coming through these.
Brent
Yeah, I don't think.
Drew
Five minutes. Five minutes before we're done here. I mean, we can test that.
Brent
If you're baptizing someone and God's like, today's your day.
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
That's crazy.
Tyler
You got killed by baptism.
Brent
But do you remember early on in the war, there were. We had a Green Beret die in a shower. Electrocuted because some of the, like, bad wiring and. And the.
Drew
Are you serious?
Brent
Oh, yeah. What was. What was the. Chaney's, Halliburton, Kellogg Brown and Root. Yes. Kbr.
Drew
Yep.
Brent
It was a kbr, like shower trailer. And it was wired wrong and then got shorted out and he got electrocuted in the shower. And he wasn't the only one. Not like in that essence. But there. There were some really bad electrical issues early on. Yeah, he died.
Andy
All right, this is Mike. Mike, Mike, Andy. Story behind your new tattoos.
Drew
So, yeah, the one, it's a cover.
Brent
Up, so I thought the one on the right was your new one.
Drew
No, that was when I got in the Philippines. When you. Nothing better going on. It's not done yet. So I'm getting a three quarter sleeve done on my arm, and underneath it I had a very traditional SEAL tattoo. It's a bone frog. The design originally, the way that I came to understand it, the bone frog, it was drawn by a guy named Keith Kimura, who, of all things, actually died in the dive tower as an instructor. Shallow water blackout. They found him on the bottom.
Brent
No way.
Drew
Later. Yeah. And I was checking into buds and the. I didn't know what it was at the time, but there was an alarm going on and there's the medical responding to the dive tower. So he drew a very traditional tattoo, and it's the skeleton of a frog called bone frog. And I've had it on my arm. I got it in 90.
Brent
That is a cool logo, the bone frog.
Andy
It's a cool logo.
Drew
And I got it in 98, I think maybe 99. And I've had it on there ever since. And I'm very proud of the time that I spent in the military. But I've said this many times. I don't want it to be the only thing that I am in my life. And I got to a place where I wanted to move on from it but not forget, you know, what I spent almost 20 years of my life doing. So, I mean, I don't know people's thoughts about it, but to me, war should be a measure of absolutely last resort. It's destructive to not only where we go, but also the people that go there. I mean, this could be any building or every building and how we ended up leaving it. I mean, Arlington is on the back where a good amount of my friends are.
Brent
I like the camera a lot too. Yeah.
Drew
And so you can see a little bit of the frog. He's only done one pass here. The American flag.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
Gonna Be on the inside and then just, you know, a reaper manger of death on the outside. Outside shoulder.
Brent
So I like it. But you. You. You failed to mention when we talked about it earlier. You're like the bone frog. And then I think the bigger issue was the barbed wire tattoo around it. Around your arm.
Drew
I never went to that school. That was an additional level of training. Okay.
Tyler
Okay. Yeah.
Brent
Yeah. The tribal tattoos.
Tyler
Oh, why do you gotta go there?
Brent
It was more of a. It's more of a Pam. And what was that movie she did? Barbed Wire. It was that. Yeah. That's why I think it's gonna run, though. They did have a run. They had a.
Drew
So, yes.
Tyler
What's coming.
Brent
But that's what sucks, is when you. When you get on that train and you get on early and you're cool, then how are you supposed to know that that's not gonna last?
Tyler
The tribal tattoos last forever.
Brent
Are you about to say they're coming back?
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
So you're about to do.
Tyler
I think so.
Brent
Are you saying that Creed came back? Are you saying that because you have one? Because you really believe that I'm dying.
Drew
On that hill now people have said, well, why would you want the bone frog covered up? And I have to remind them I can get it on again if I want to.
Tyler
That's true.
Drew
You know what I mean? I've already earned the opportunity to put it on anytime that I want to. It's not that I'm not proud of it. I just don't want it to be all that I am.
Brent
Yeah. And it's taking up valuable space for. For it. For that.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
All right. Subconscious ambiance for a buck 99 seal comes Brent. Probably land chairs won't work.
Drew
I don't know what to make of that sentence.
Tyler
So sometimes super chats people have said when they're typing. It's a horrible.
Andy
No. It's land shares. Like gonna have to do water chairs.
Drew
I'm glad that we have the chat decoder.
Andy
That's it. We got the chat decoder. Kenneth Bauer. This is epic. And I am looking forward to the recorded boys. Check your anti hero email and support the Carson firefighters golf tournament. Andy has in the past. Thank you, Kenneth, for the update.
Brent
Good job, Andy. Nope. Just take credit for it.
Drew
Okay.
Brent
Good job. You're welcome.
Andy
Garen Thumb's conscience. There's a lot of.
Brent
I think they were like, hey, if we. If we say Andy will, then they'll feel like they have to. But we will look into that. We do. We support a lot of Those things.
Andy
Andy does it. All right.
Drew
Wow.
Andy
TK has been holding his breath down there a long time.
Drew
Oh, it's rough.
Andy
M.J. candy, ask the bros what episode of Seal Team were their favorite.
Drew
I've never watched an episode.
Brent
I've never watched an episode.
Tyler
Nobody watches it. SWAT guys.
Brent
Yeah, and you know what's ironic? It's not like I watch all, but I've. I've seen an episode OR2 of SWAT.
Andy
But I've seen the movie.
Brent
But the movie's really good.
Drew
Yeah. When is that ever? Not the reality, though.
Brent
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry about that. Never watched an episode of the Unit, either.
Tyler
Oh, yeah. I was about to say that. With the Allstate guy.
Brent
The Allstate guy. I know.
Drew
Oh, yeah, that's right. He was on there.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
I just assumed that was a documentary.
Tyler
That was so good.
Andy
Kane, Corsov, back again. Tyler, you better have provided Ranger panties in there.
Drew
Indeed he did.
Brent
Did.
Andy
Indeed he did. Yeah.
Tyler
BR wouldn't wear any, but it's okay.
Brent
He didn't. You don't bring them. You just tell them I'm wearing them that no one knows.
Tyler
No. They could know. We're wearing nothing for all I care.
Andy
Gear and thumbs I can tell you all about. Cup Chair.
Drew
Is there something in there?
Brent
Is that a flex?
Drew
I don't get it.
Brent
Is that a flex?
Andy
He's. He's just proud, boys. He's just proud.
Tyler
What side of the chair were you on?
Brent
Was. He was born that way.
Drew
Live your life however you feel best.
Brent
He was born that way.
Andy
Eagle Heart says, velvet pistols. 100 emoji. Fire emoji, wind emoji.
Drew
I also don't understand that one.
Andy
There it is. I don't know. Maybe it's on his phone.
Drew
Velvet Pistols.
Andy
Velvet Pistols.
Brent
I don't like the sound of that either.
Andy
Backman Union. He's a regular.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
Two army guys and a Navy SEAL sit in the hot tub. One army guy says, this is getting hot. The Navy SEAL smirks. Wait till you feel my depth charge. I don't have a cricket sound effect. Sorry, guys.
Drew
All day, every day.
Brent
Here it is.
Andy
100 bucks. All day, every day. Thank you very much. I recently heard John Chapman's story will not be at the MOH Museum.
Tyler
There's one.
Andy
Does anyone have any insight as to why this might be?
Drew
I do not.
Brent
I'll. I'll take this one. The of a Medal of Honor winner friend of mine from the unit who's on the board? Pat Payne. He's. He's on this. He doesn't Agree with it. He is, he is fighting to, to change this. It is a. It is a bad look. He told me all about like how it came about and it's. And it's. And prove that that Slab had really nothing to do with it. He's a board member. But none of the board members have any say on who gets a. This is the new museum they're making in Texas.
Drew
Okay.
Brent
Yeah. And so people are just very upset that there's not a lot of, you know, Air Force Medal of Honors right off the bat.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
And Slab gets one and we're just. This is just a fact. People can hate the fact or not, but Chapman is dead, you know, partially because Slab left him. Whether that's right, wrong, it's indifferent. That's. That, that is a fact. I can probably word it a little better than that. But for him to have a display at the Medal of Honor museum and for Chapman, who is. It's even. So it's even more rare for an Air Force guy to have it. And it's the first Medal of Honor to ever be captured on I isr. That's a big deal. And people are really upset about that. But they are aware of it. They are working on it. And I do think because of the noise that you guys made, they hear you and I think they're going to fix it nice.
Drew
I mean, I think everybody should be rotated through individually. Like give everybody and start wherever you want, but give everybody two months or six months and it rotates through. I think all of those people, well here associated with that award deserves at the minimum that.
Brent
Here's what's crazy. He sent me like a whole write up that, that the, that that they got about it. The Medal of Honor was the only valor award until. I can't remember for a long time, let's say a long time.
Drew
You talking about like in the Civil Warrior?
Brent
Yes.
Drew
I think it was actually the Purple Heart, which they considered the Medal of Honor. Then they split the two.
Brent
So that, so I should say, I should say there weren't as many valor wards as there are now. So the Medal of Honor was. Was much more readily available to be given out. There's over. Check me on this guys. I think there's over 3, 000 Medal of Honor winners, but most like a lion's share came from the early days. Okay. So that, so that's a little bit of the problem of rotating them out is that they're not all Medal of Honor worthy stories. Because. Because there was smart enough though that.
Drew
People could figure that one out. Meaning, like, I do a spreadsheet and take a look at it.
Brent
But yeah, yeah, I think.
Drew
I think this, bottom line, I think the. The stories deserve to be told. Those people, the sacrifice, their actions are unbelievable.
Brent
Yep.
Andy
All right, next super chat. Let's see.
Tyler
How are we doing on time with the amount of super chats that we have?
Brent
Are they coming in at 8:30?
Andy
Well, yeah, we got an hour and a half and that's the super chats. We're rolling pretty good. This is Victor. This looks like an episode of Navy SEALS with Charlie Sheen. If they had a podcast in the.
Drew
Movie, it's probably pretty accurate.
Brent
Okay.
Andy
It's been a long time.
Brent
Since when did that movie come out, roughly?
Drew
It was before I joined, so I think either 80s or 90s did it.
Brent
Did you watch it when it came out? Like, pretty much every day. Okay. Did it. Did it play an impact? And do you join. I know you said you wanted to join the SEALs early, but, like, watching a movie like that was only like, like reinforces. I'm absolutely going to be a SEAL because of a movie like that.
Drew
I thought that's what the job was going to be like. And then I actually did the job and was very disappointed and felt let down.
Brent
Nothing stopping you from jumping off of a moving truck off of a bridge.
Drew
Except gravity and the impact and getting in trouble for doing that. I watched that movie. God, I wish it would have been like that. Where you're like, falling through skylights and Nomex flight suits with MP5s and handlebar mustaches and.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
Switching from starlight to thermal and. Yeah. Your call sign is God. And you're a specialist in absolutely everything. Why even go to a school? I'm a seal. I can do it all. Halo with draggers on.
Brent
I feel like on the beginning of this, you might get a little defensive until you feel the whole thing. Tell me more. Yeah, yeah. Or you get us at a hot tub and I word things. Oddly, the. I am. I am, oddly enough, a fan of. Of books, special operations, writing books. As long as it's the truth, people should hear the story. I'm a big fan of Hollywood, putting out movies about the green John Wayne, the Green Berets. One of the biggest recruiting, you know, pushes Greenbrush could have ever asked for. Same thing with, look at Top Gun.
Drew
Probably the number one recruiting tool for aviators.
Brent
So I'm gonna go into. This whole thing is leading up to a more recent movie, which is act of Valor.
Drew
Okay.
Brent
And a lot of people hate on it. And they say how horrible the acting is.
Drew
Yeah, they weren't actors.
Brent
Right. I actually like the movie act of Valor. They never said, like, this is exactly everything they. We do. But some of those missions were based off of true stories. And in that movie, when they're in the back of the trucks, you know, breaking contact, they got a, they got a teammate shot, shot in the eye. And they, and they, they drive the trucks into the water and those swig boats come in and open up with many climax. I mean, I'm telling you, if you don't have goosebumps watching that, like you check your American card, you might not be there.
Tyler
You ever seen Tears of the Sun?
Brent
I did Bruce Willis.
Tyler
That's a great movie.
Brent
Yeah.
Tyler
Fictional, I think, but probably based off true events.
Drew
My favorite thing for that movie is the, the old, old throat mics. Throat mics that were guaranteed to make sure anything you said were not understood.
Brent
Nothing.
Drew
And I think I wore those one time and I. Because I thought it looked so cool. And they pulled them out one day. I was like, it's time. It's time to reach peak male performance right now with this throat mic. Not only were they uncomfortable, you couldn't hear the word. I mean, they look great in movies, but you couldn't use those things.
Brent
A little bit better, but similar. The invisio and ear, those were rough. Those, they were fine on the ground. The problem is when you have a helicopter that takes you everywhere. Yeah. You can't hear what the guys are saying. On. On Hilo. I know Pilters are the way to go. I know Hollywood likes to. Like to. Likes to find all these odd and like really cool technical things when the reality is peltors have always been the, the go to and worked.
Drew
Do you think it'll ever change at CAG with the culture of writing about what you guys do?
Brent
When my book hits? Yes, that'll be the first.
Drew
Is it, is it something that is openly talked about like you are not to write a book? Do you guys sign paperwork? Is it a cultural thing?
Brent
It's a cultural thing. It really is a cultural thing. Just me on a podcast gets, gets a ton of hate just for being on a pod. You know, just. Just for saying that I was in the Delta Force. It is very, very much like a self induced cultural thing. Even though I'm in good standings with, with the unit, you know, I'm not, I'm not pnged. I haven't done anything against the rules, but they have a higher standard than the actual rules. And it's a little frustrating. But if you're going to land on one side of that, you know, line the other, it's. I think it's a good thing.
Drew
But I mean I was introduced, all the information I got was from books. And I've had this conversation with people about do the books help? Do the books hurt? Do TV shows help? Do they hurt? Do movies help? Do they hurt? I think two things can be true at once. I think some of them do help and I think some of them do hurt. I think notoriety can build to a point where you, if it gets too much, you're bringing in people for more self serving reasons, then what are you trying to get another beer?
Brent
Yeah. Jesus.
Drew
People are coming in for more self serving reasons as opposed to the reasons of serving others. They could think that they're getting into something, that it's not necessarily what's going to be the case. But then I look back at myself, the books that I could find, it was the only source of knowledge and they were inspirational for me. And it continued to throw logs on that fire of motivation. So I think it has to be balanced. I think it just has to be based on the truth and in authenticity. And if it's not, then just be really open and honest like, hey, this is a fiction book. This is a fiction show. This is not accurately depicting what this life is going to be like. So take it for what it is.
Brent
We've had him on the show. Pete Blaber wrote, wrote a book, Men Mission to me that talks about the Delta Force being the Delta Force. He has gotten to my knowledge, no hate on that book, but it all goes back to intent. He didn't write that book to say what a badass he was and to tell war stories and tactics. It was a leadership book and you could clearly tell what his intent was writing the book as you read, read it. So it has been done. You have to do it the right way. Yeah, heck, that's. There's the, the real irony of it. Our founder, Charlie Beckwith wrote a book called Delta Force. Did you know that?
Drew
No, it's.
Brent
Yeah, it was one of the first books I, I read in Special Operations. He, he wrote a book about it. So get off my ass.
Drew
I mean, do it to a degree. Some level of information needs to get out so people have an idea of what they want to point them and orient themselves. I also do agree like TTPS never should be discussed. You should never discuss anything that is current or ongoing. Other people that are still active, like any of that stuff. Like there's a very distinct line of things to stay out of, but generally I think it can be done right.
Brent
And for us, one of those things is selection. Like you. For us, you just don't talk about selection.
Drew
People have questions about otc, just hit me up. I'll give you exactly what happens. For full disclosure, I don't have a clue. But I will make up a six month schedule.
Brent
If it's even six months.
Andy
I don't know how long it is.
Drew
I will make up a daily six month schedule.
Brent
Charge for it. Nice.
Drew
I mean, it was a really long walk in there, so that's all I got.
Andy
I ground thumbs back in. I fired a Carl G and a Tony L and a Bert H and.
Drew
A Tom R. I don't get it.
Andy
I don't get it.
Brent
He's just making fun. Okay, let's see what you did there.
Andy
Brain Gibson, Whiskey T, Fox. And where is your tactile wiener?
Drew
He's home with my wife. I'm talking about my miniature dachshund who is named Javelin.
Brent
I read that differently. It's in his ranger panties.
Tyler
Yeah, the hot tub makes everything a little bit weirder.
Andy
Dosh hound Dachshund, if you want to get. All right. Practical and tactical. Chris Farmier here. I remember when I was law enforcement, I put pepper spray on a fellow officer's lip of his spitter. Then he got me back by spraying it into my outside intake vents of my cruiser.
Drew
Oh, that's the gift that keeps on.
Brent
Yeah. Yeah, it is, for sure.
Andy
All right. Lacabos, Merkel, longtime list for 50 bucks, man. Thank you so much, very much. Long time listener, first time poster. Love you guys. Tennessee beats Florida every day.
Drew
Is that a football thing?
Andy
As a place to live? Anyways, football is gay.
Brent
You said too much.
Andy
Yeah, okay, well, I guess only if you're the power bottom.
Drew
Anyway, good usage.
Brent
Close way to bring it back around.
Andy
Gooch Parm Actual. Pan the camera down so we can see Tim Kennedy holding this pool above his head ever so effortlessly and valorous in all caps. All right, Holden Tyks, you're screaming fact.
Tyler
I love it.
Brent
Oh, screening. That's very.
Tyler
Can they change it per day?
Brent
I don't know. They don't make these accounts, do they? I don't know.
Tyler
They could hold in two days.
Andy
He gives 100 bucks. Thanks, brother. That pay. That pays for the pool, we really appreciate it.
Brent
Does not pay for the pool.
Andy
We're getting there, Andy. What hurt more, taking a 762 or talking to Kennedy for two hours.
Drew
When did we talk to him? Kennedy for two hours.
Andy
Barton Taylor. Nice job on dressing Andy for the episode. Tyler looks like he bangs Trainees on the down low. Much love for both podcasts. Former 0311.
Tyler
Did he say trainees or trannies?
Brent
Yeah.
Tyler
Oh, trainees, yeah, trannies.
Brent
That was a good, positive, Positive spin, though.
Drew
When did we talk about Tim for two hours.
Tyler
I was going to say, when did you. Have you ever talked to Tim for two hours?
Drew
I've spent time with Tim.
Tyler
No, no, no. Publicly. I'm sorry.
Brent
Jim on a podcast. Was he on your podcast?
Drew
I had him when we were on Normandy. I think we talked for about an hour, and then I had him on with two senior army officers. We were talking more about the armory at large. And when I had him on, we were talking about Normandy specifically because we were there for the 80th anniversary, which was unbelievable. As an aside. So we did record an episode earlier and it didn't even actually come up. You guys didn't ask me about it. There is this weird misconception that people have that think that I would be afraid to talk about any particular issue. And I can dispel that right now if you want. I don't have an issue. People can ask me directly about anybody that they want. Anybody in my social.
Brent
You just open up the floodgates.
Drew
Well, here's the thing.
Andy
There's really.
Drew
Here's what I'm gonna say.
Tyler
$99. 99. 9.
Drew
If people are expecting. Expecting me to go and make a video, I would ask you to go and find an example of me making a video targeting or pointing out any one person. What you're going to find is that that's not what I do. Tim happens to be a personal friend of mine. He's been a friend for a long time. And I can separate Tim from the things that he has said publicly. And I allow for people to have an amazing impact in one area and fall short in the other. In my personal opinion, he fell short in the way he has described his military career.
Brent
Career.
Drew
That is demonstrably the way that it has demonstrated itself, that I have seen that and I have said that to him. I would never say something publicly that I wouldn't say directly to his face. What I'll add to the conversation is that Tim has always been nothing but absolutely kind to me and kind to almost everybody I've ever seen him interact with. Actually, I can't think of a negative interaction that I have seen him have with somebody. Now, does that mean that because this Happens that this didn't happen? No, absolutely not. All of those things can absolutely happen. Did he get a little imprecise with his military record? It would appear to be. So looking at the same information that everybody else is, and if you want to have videos of people talking specifically about that, they already exist. But like I said, you're never going to find that on the channel that I have because that's not the kind of content that I make. Anything that I had to say about it, I said it directly to his face. We've had a very deep conversation about this. He knows exactly how I feel, and people can ask me about it all they want to. I mean, it's. It's totally fair question.
Andy
Well said.
Tyler
Yeah, well said.
Brent
Very articulate.
Tyler
There are shows that have made shows.
Drew
About him, though I can't think of.
Andy
Their names off top of my head.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
All right, let's see.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
John, Todd, Andy. What do you call SEALs getting into a firefight with their drug dealer? Friendly fire.
Tyler
It's good. The Sean Ryan. We've made a Sean Ryan skit. Somebody said a long time ago, they said, what do you call SEALs getting into firefights with cartel drug dealers? And then they were like, friendly fire.
Brent
Because he basically saying seals do drugs. And so.
Tyler
Yeah, but he did that drug running thing down in Colombia.
Drew
Oh, okay.
Brent
Yeah, right. It's just.
Drew
I am not completely up to speed.
Brent
On that, so it's just a good joke.
Drew
I'm gonna. Okay, if you guys say it's a good joke, it's just a good joke.
Brent
It's just a good joke. JOHN LAUGHS yeah, yeah. Sean's been very open about it.
Andy
All right, Michael's done you.
Tyler
We're on number two or three.
Andy
Handy rump. Did Rob kill Osama bin Laden? Is it osb?
Drew
I got asked this, so I did my first live YouTube. What do you call it? A stream or is it just a live.
Brent
Yeah, I think it's a live. A live stream. A live stream.
Tyler
A live stream.
Drew
A live stream. Where there was a comment section which I completely fell behind utterly on, because I was answering a question and a bunch came in. So I did the best I could. One of them, I answered, somebody asked me directly this question. I'm going say exactly the same thing. I was not there. I have very good friends that were there. So anything that I say is going to be second or third hand at best from the people that I know that were there. They have told me that the public narrative out there and the narrative in the book is not the reality on the ground that night. And I don't know what to say other than that I can't sit here and say that I know anything other than what people have told me. Those people were there. They tell me that the story was different, and that's the best I can do.
Brent
The problem is, if I could be so bold, is that you're answering the question, but you're not answering the question the way. And I'm not sitting here saying you're answering.
Drew
They want me to say. They want me to do is make a video and say, Rob O'Neill, this, that, or the other. What I can do is say, these are the people I know. This is what they said. They were there that night. This is what they told me. That's what I know.
Brent
Let me ask it a different way. Is there anyone that you know that was there, that. That corroborates Rob's story?
Drew
So portions of it. Yes.
Brent
Portions of it being he was the only man in the room that killed Osama bin Laden?
Drew
Not that portion.
Brent
Okay. Well, that's. I think that's the portion.
Tyler
Great lawyer.
Brent
And I never get on here to try to get you some gotcha moments.
Drew
No. But a lot of people, they'll reference the book more than anything.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
And there's a volume of information in that book. Yes. A lot of the things that I have heard were corroborated in that story. And that's where things can get. This is what I tell people. Like, your military experience is yours to do whatever you want to do with it, but you have to be precise, use the correct language, tell the truth and be precise. And if you deviate from that, you are leading yourself down a path where you can get into a lot of trouble, and you have nobody to look at except for the person in the mirror who got you into that trouble.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
And what happens, though, is. What happens is there'll be truth and then a little deviation and truth and a little deviation. And that's where people get really over their head.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
And they end up getting in a lot of trouble.
Brent
And I think what's unfair that they do is they created this. And then they go to people who may not be in the know and ask to come on, to. To help push their narrative, and it brings that person and. And to their lie. And I think that's really. I think that's really just not a very authentic thing to do. But it. But it happens. I'm not naming names. Don't name the podcast, but we know that that happens. And rather than owning it, you know, they just find a way to go around and double down on it. I can't explain it.
Tyler
People get caught up in it and they don't know. They don't know.
Brent
That's right. And now you're bringing someone else and.
Tyler
Then they get judged.
Brent
That's right. They get judged and they get the hate. Hate, you know, the. The straight rounds. Yeah, undeservingly.
Tyler
Especially somebody that's not in that industry.
Drew
Yeah, that's the criticism, like, well, this person platformed them. Them and they didn't push back. And the reality is most people are not going to know where to push back or where to. To put the spotlight to figure out where the cracks in the story may be. They're probably sitting there listening to the story. Might be for the first time. Maybe they're really enthralled by the story. Maybe the story is meaningful to them. They don't know what to ask. Ask to see if the structure and the foundation is actually solid.
Andy
Yeah.
Drew
So, yeah, it's a tough one. I mean, the baseline is do what you want to with your experiences. My recommendation is tell the truth. That way you don't have to remember what you've told anybody else. You can always tell the same story and you're not going to find yourself in trouble.
Brent
Well, yeah, that's. That's what I told John McPhee.
Andy
All right. This must be something, I don't know, relevant to the chats Soon. Wukong says Vanessa isn't a Jewish enough name to Jew any chat anywhere. It must be a chat thing. I don't know.
Tyler
Maybe she's. Maybe they're saying, like, when you say, like, you Jude me, like you shortchanged me.
Brent
You think so?
Tyler
Sony gets shortchanged.
Brent
Chris, if we have, we reach the end of. Of your useless knowledge.
Drew
Over my head, boys.
Andy
Sorry.
Brent
Okay. And which is difficult, you know, sometimes.
Andy
This stuff is context in this. In the chats that they're doing. Anyway, Garen thumbs back in again. He's to be 100 bucks, $5 at a time. A power bottom can clinch. Really? Well, try me.
Drew
Thank you for the amplifying.
Andy
I like your confidence and the offer, but soon Wukong back in again. Speak the truth. Dude is going through family issues. I. Dude might be Tim Kennedy.
Tyler
I don't know.
Brent
Are you good?
Tyler
Oh, is it the tranny thing? Listen, I didn't have sex with any trannies. Okay? Let's not get this out of the context.
Drew
Did they have sex with you?
Tyler
I was the power bottom.
Brent
He's a clincher.
Andy
All right, Raven 23 says, would you rather do the burpee mile or be on a three day land nav with a butter bar with no direction and can't help.
Brent
Oh, and can't help. That's pretty frustrating. Yeah, I'm taking the burpee mile.
Drew
That's a short amount of suffering. Where the other one is 70, 72 hours.
Brent
Oh, man. It's a good question.
Andy
All right, Garen, thumbs back in again. Don't make Andy laugh too hard. Tyler will get pregnant just through osmosis.
Drew
I don't know what to say about that.
Tyler
Andy, you're bringing all these people to your podcast and now you're gonna have to sip into those comments.
Andy
Plight designs, our man. Every week. We love you, man. America.
Brent
No right?
Andy
Dang it, Mar. All right, bag, caddy, Randy and Tyler, I saw a video from DJ asking about civilians training in kit and the opinion of some veterans calling it LARPing. What's your opinion?
Tyler
It is. I'm just kidding.
Andy
It is.
Tyler
I mean, you could be training for the apocalypse.
Brent
It's a really, it's a really weird position to be in because if these people are training for the worst that we would say like would never happen. But as a man, like, you should be prepared for the worst and, and to defend your family. I think where it gets weird in my humble opinion is the amount of time you spend on it. If you, if you spend an abnormal amount of time like doing that, that's preparing for just a minuscule thing that could happen. I don't know, I just think that's a little weird.
Drew
Is there a specific time kind of type of training that they're referencing or they're just saying people wearing tactical gear?
Brent
I think.
Drew
Yeah. See if you're seeing full kid doing what though, like they're at just on a range day. I mean, tell your cop what's the average response time down here?
Tyler
That's true. The average response time anywhere. I tell people when they're mad at us. I'm like, that's your fault for waiting on us.
Brent
Yeah. So. So to finish that thought, I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with. I think if you can afford it and you can, I think you should, like, why wouldn't you have, you know, why wouldn't you have the ability to, to defend yourself, defend your family, stay alive, have the best thing in that situation. But if you spend an abnormal amount of time focusing on that, then you're LARPing, then you're LARPing. Yeah.
Tyler
Well, what about just as a young man you serve, whether you serve your community or you serve your nation where you get to train in kit and then you don't have to train when later on in life.
Drew
So is it the optic of them in kit that you don't like?
Tyler
Oh, I don't think. I don't. I don't care. But I think it's like, like.
Drew
Well, let's go back to the response time. So where I live it's about 30 minutes depending on where you live.
Tyler
That's wild.
Drew
So you had better be able to handle your and for most people because I get asked this often about everyday carrier what I should focus on. So many people focus on making holes and I think the vast majority of people should really focus on stopping hydraulic fluid from coming out or stopping bleeding because you're much more likely to encounter that situation than needing to shoot somebody. However, you should be current and competent in both. But where I live, I mean, let me ask you this. Do you still have kit?
Brent
Yes.
Drew
Do you have kit?
Tyler
I do.
Drew
Why do you guys get to train in it and other people don't? You're a civilian, damn it.
Tyler
Andy.
Brent
I don't like that question. I also don't like that question because.
Tyler
End the stream.
Brent
Hold on. Because I feel you attacked me unwarranted. It's how I feel, Andy. Because I said I think they should emotional. But here's the thing why I think they should.
Drew
I still have kit too.
Brent
And. And guess what?
Tyler
I can make fun of nerds. I can make fun of them, sure.
Brent
I'm consistent. Guess what? I. I don't spend an abnormal amount of time in my kit thinking that I'm still doing the job.
Tyler
Your kid's still been outside.
Drew
You already spent the abnormal amount of time in your kit, right? That's already in the bank.
Brent
Right.
Drew
So if. Well, first off, I think it people should set their expectations. You're probably never going to be a CAG operator level unless you go ahead and work your way through that program and spend the time there. But there's probably a reason why you have the kit that you have, right? It's lightweight, it's efficient. You carry what you need and you don't have excess. If you want to tell somebody to be their own first responder, don't they need to have access to the same things for the same reasons they do. And then I'm not saying that you spend eight hours a day on the range, but there's a reason we all have the kit that we have. Have. And I've canned the vast majority of what I have, but I still keep some pieces because I think they're essential play carry. Being a good one with a good set of plates.
Brent
But you know what? I don't keep them at my house, actually here at the studio. So. So ironically enough, I have them, but I'm actually not prepared to don them and defend my house with them. And that may or may not be.
Drew
The right reality is you're not going to need kids kit to defend your house. You have enough ingrained skill and experience to be able to do.
Brent
That's why. That really, really is why.
Drew
So what can help people bridge gaps in experience, though? Tools.
Brent
Right.
Drew
You know, and again, I'm not. I'm not advocating for it. I think it's very slippery slope that you could. Everybody says, you know, not everybody, but a large, you know, train. Make sure you're capable, make sure you're current. But hey, don't look like us. And the stuff that we used to wear, because that's gay. You know what I mean? Like, there's. There's a fine line there, I think. I agree. Don't spend 12 hours a day training for a zombie apocalypse. But if you do have a plate carrier, throw it on from time to time. So at least. So you don't have magazines in there. Two different directions and you're reaching for.
Brent
One and then we're saying the same thing. And. And here's a scenario that. It just popped my mind. I can't remember the exact. So don't flame me on it, but if our power grid goes down, they are guessing.
Drew
Nine meals from anarchy. Yes.
Tyler
Yeah. I have a degree in homeland Security and that's what they teach.
Andy
Yes.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Three days. In three days, the civility just falls apart. And so I think that's actually more than like fighting it out with a bad guy in your house. I think that's something you should be prepared for. I actually think, well, you're going to.
Tyler
Be the bad guy, Brent. You've admitted that.
Brent
I have. I have.
Tyler
I'm gonna come take your peanut butter. You could just let me take it.
Brent
Yeah. So the question was just last week I was like, do you stockpile food? I say, no, I stockpile ammo because I'll have my neighbor's food. And they're like, that's. You're a really shitty neighbor. Now that is an extreme. It was a half joke, but it's a half truth. And I'll be the first person to Try to get everyone together and forge for our own food. But in the day, if. If you won't and things are really going haywire, then I will. But it's not my go to.
Drew
I bet you as long as the.
Brent
Power'S out, I'm going next door.
Drew
I bet you'd have kid on if you did.
Tyler
All right.
Andy
All right. Kenneth talking about something earlier. It's not public. Matt mentioned it in a members only live stream on the channel two days ago. Just a civilian trying to help a veteran that needs the support. Somebody out there knows what he's talking about.
Brent
What is that in reference to?
Drew
I don't know. Matt. Who's Matt?
Andy
Matt mentioned it in a members only live stream. Oh, you're moving on.
Brent
A lot to do and a members only live stream. Is that like. Is that. Is that only fans?
Andy
All right, D. Michael, Billy Lavigne and Mark Le Shakar episode, possibly Billy Levine. Levine.
Brent
All right, there you go. So there's a G in there. Have you heard about Billy Levine? No. I know people. People have asked us this several times and honest, I'm not saying it's something we won't cover. We have a lot of guests and a lot of topics, but I don't.
Drew
Even know what it is.
Brent
So let me explain.
Tyler
This is the first live, I think with that and people are commenting. They want to see it.
Brent
Oh, okay. After this, I'll let them know. Billy Levine was adults force operator that killed his best friend and next door neighbor that was a Green Beret. They recently. No. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait for them. That like a down. I'm a guess a decade ago or. Or less. Okay, okay. So what had happened was they went to his family and the neighbor's family went down to Disney World. The apparently like this story. Apparently the. Yeah, yeah. Apparently the Green Beret was on some sort of mental medication and halfway up. Don't this. I'm generalizing. At some point during the drive, the Green Berets wife said, hey, he's off his meds. He's acting really strange like can he ride with you? And so he does. Somehow by the time they get all the way home, he's. He's in some full mental thing and he comes over with a screwdriver and like being aggressive. I won't go too far in the details because I don't want to be wrong.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
But the end is Billy Levine shoots him and kills him. Now that's a crazy enough story as it is. There's more to that story. Billy Lavine Gets into another weird scenario where he gets. He gets divorced. He's living by himself in another thing at another house, and he goes off on a deployment. And this is such a deep story. I'm trying to make it fast. And the cops come up to him like, hey, did you know, like, she's a prostitute and a drug dealer and running a ring out of your house? And he's like, no, I have no idea. But then they press her about it like, billy's my pimp. Yeah, he absolutely knows. Again, I'm going through this really general.
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
And so. And so he's under investigation about that. No one really ends up knowing the truth about that because Billy Levine and a warrant officer support guy from. From group. From SF Group ends up dead on a range on Fort Bragg, and their bodies are found in a truck. And they assumed it was basically like a drug deal gone bad. So. It's a crazy story.
Tyler
It is a crazy story.
Brent
It's a crazy story. People want to hear more about it. I would have to really get, like, my crush on that one. It is. But here's. Here's why people get upset. They're like, well, you don't call out, like, the black eyed as a Delta Force and you call out other people. I don't know what to tell you. There are other black eyes that have happened in other communities. Billy Levine never wrote a book and tried to make fame and fortune off of lies because he's dead. So, you know, people are upset that I don't expose that. But we've been really consistent with the people that we expose are people who tell lies for fame and fortune. So there's. There's the whole story, and there's why we don't really cover it. I don't ignore it. I told the whole story right here.
Drew
I had.
Brent
Not that, but it doesn't. It doesn't fit. You know what. What we do here, we don't just randomly on people that. That have, you know, bad apples in their community, or else we'd be covering Navy SEAL stories every day. It's a true story.
Drew
Would you go alphabetically or would you go chronologically?
Andy
Oh, I love it. All right. Hal Arms. Thank you, brother, for the gift. We love how Creed with Arms Wide Open is the official outro song for this broadcast.
Brent
We'll do it.
Andy
Hold on. As a sing along.
Brent
As a sing along.
Tyler
Dudes in a hot tub singing Creed. That's peak. That's peak male performance.
Andy
All right, Apache 64, real quick. All right.
Brent
I don't. I Don't mean to brag, but I'm gonna brag. That is a YouTube plaque. You got one of these?
Drew
Did you get it?
Brent
Nice. Prisoner to the antihero podcast for passing a hundred thousand. Take a picture right there. We did it. And you know what's funny? I never cared about this. I could care less at 50,000, 60,000, 70, whatever. I never really paid attention to the numbers. We got somewhere around 96, and I became enthralled. I want that plaque. Give me that plaque. I want that plaque.
Drew
Is it satisfying to now hold it in your hand?
Brent
Yeah, I know it's weird.
Tyler
It is. But I'm not even gonna lie.
Brent
I feel like guys like. Like us, you can. Maybe you weren't as retarded as I was, but the things we would do for badges and ribbons and patches are ridiculous. Dang. A little plaque in front of me. Now I care, and now I want it.
Drew
What's the next one?
Brent
I think it's a million. Is the next one. You will never see that one. This is why I'm so happy about this one. Because we won't see the next one.
Andy
Patchy 6400 says daddies. Let's see the 100,000. Oh, there it is. Play button.
Drew
We just did blah, blah, blah, blah. And answer.
Brent
That's right.
Andy
Sean Hokanson. Can you have Andy say potato chip?
Drew
Potato chip.
Andy
Nailed it. All right, you heard it here. 10 bucks well spent. Yo, Ben.
Brent
Bamboozled.
Andy
Hey, fellas, keep up the good work. Bunt and tidal. Would you rather fight an army of. Depend upon us. Do you know what that is? Depend upon us? It's a big dependent.
Tyler
Yes.
Brent
Good job.
Drew
Relatively.
Tyler
It's a fat army wife or a fat Navy wife.
Andy
Say no more. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm talking.
Brent
Okay, okay.
Andy
Depend Epis or TK With a bag of. Full of nades.
Brent
I'm. I'm gonna fight that fat chick all day long.
Drew
Dominate her.
Tyler
Probably. He would be my ass.
Andy
Give me a break. David Smith, Quick question. Which one of you comes first? Comes first in that tub. There it is.
Brent
Okay, I'll say something that irritates me a little bit, which is. Is the comments we get is like, I bet you wouldn't fight. I would. I bet you wouldn't fight Tim Kennedy. As if, like, somehow.
Tyler
No.
Brent
As fighting that other person, like, decides on. On who's right and did in middle school. Here's. That's right. But here's the other thing. The guy trained his whole life to fight, and he's an amazing Fighter. We talked about this, and I asked you, I was like, did you ever old Tim Kennedy once.
Drew
He's a spectacular jiu jitsu practitioner.
Brent
Right? I'm not, I'm not hating on. On. On that aspect of it. I, I, I assume he is. He's amazing on the mats.
Drew
Y.
Brent
But I don't know. I also trained my whole life to shoot people in the face, so why does it have to be a fight as like. Yeah, why. Why can't we bring. Why can't it be a. Yeah, why can't it be sims? Like, why. Why can't we go to my specialty? Why do we have to defer to his specialty?
Tyler
Why can't we just write short stories and figure out which one's better?
Brent
Jeez.
Tyler
We eventually got to get to our questions for Andy and our sponsors.
Brent
No.
Tyler
Yeah.
Andy
Don't boo our sponsors, Tyler. We're not booing our sponsors, Tyler.
Tyler
This hot tub costs money.
Brent
Damn it. I'm a man of the people.
Andy
Let's see, we've got. We've got about. Gosh, I want to say 50 more.
Tyler
We're gonna have to break the super chats from 20 and up like we do all the time.
Drew
I don't even know.
Andy
Well, it's taking us halfway to get this far, and we have the same amount to go for the next hour, so.
Drew
Well, then it sounds like you should go faster.
Andy
Chats are over.
Tyler
They can't be over.
Andy
Well, if you only get through them.
Tyler
What do you mean get through them? Why would we end super chats when we can do the $20 and up?
Drew
Should we do them instead of talking about them?
Tyler
All right, let's go to our sponsors first.
Brent
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Tyler
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Brent
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Tyler
We're live. We got questions for Andy in the Patreon so I'm just gonna go down the list. Andy.
Drew
Yes.
Tyler
Did you serve with Jason Freywald? Free Walt, Free Wall. Excuse me. And have you ever seen the memorial in his hometown town?
Drew
So I was at the same team with Jason briefly. His team leader the night he got killed is one of my closest friends so I understand pretty well what ended up happening. So we, we served in passing with each other at a conventional team. He was killed while at the command. I have not seen the memorial at his town at his hometown.
Tyler
You already told your best javelin story.
Brent
I work.
Drew
I work at javelin story. I get to rack and stack.
Tyler
He. I work at Raytheon so I love hearing stories about our products.
Drew
Yeah.
Tyler
Did you tell your best one or just one?
Drew
I told one. If they would like to send me more of those I can provide a P.O. box. If they I'm more than happy to keep using their products.
Tyler
It's not a terrorist watch list. Ask about Tyler Gray and him being in quotation marks and him being on the same target the night they both got hurt.
Drew
Yep. So Tyler got hurt internal. I got hurt external. We were medevac together. We shared a variety of great experiences from a medevac flight to a rotator flight from I think it was Balad to Germany. Launch tool to launch stool man what they don't tell you about is the bus ride from the airplane to the actual hospital. Tyler had a full erector set on his. Like, he was fucked up. And that entire plane ride from Iraq to Germany was full of people that were so horrendously more wounded than myself. And hearing them, the noises they were making throughout the entire flight was, yeah, so I was deployed with you guys. So they sent. It was either a doc or a PA with us. And so we had extremely good care that was directed for us. And I just said, hey, can you do him? Just put me the. Out for the rest of this flight. Because I. I can't. Don't have the words for how much suffering people are experiencing. Then you land there and you are offloaded in stretchers and put onto a. In my mind, I swear it was like a yellow school bus. Even though it probably wasn't that, but it wasn't much. It wasn't. Yeah, that's what I used to go to school on. So this was a little bit later in my life. But then you get to the hospital and they separate us. But we were together in a hospital room for two or three days before I got on a civilian flight. He came home via the military means and still in contact. Talked with him a few months ago.
Tyler
And then the last one is. Funny one, you don't have to ask it, but where in BUDS did Andy teach Dan Crenshaw how to trade stocks?
Drew
I mean, the Internet is an amazing thing. This is, again, life is about the choices that you make. I. Information is out there. And when people make choices that net them either under scrutiny or in the radar, they have to speak for the consequences of their decisions on their own. I am not aware of that being a portion of the curriculum. I wish it would have been when I went through as a student as well, because my net worth would be.
Tyler
A lot higher than it is.
Brent
Were there any, I don't know, notable seals in your BUDS class.
Drew
Ben Seyfrit was probably the most notable seal. He is in jail with his wife for murdering people and cutting them up in his bathtub. Honor man.
Brent
Yeah, okay.
Drew
Which, by the way, was selected because he was the person who failed the least amount of evolutions in training. I don't know if there was a thorough, like, honor litmus test going on there.
Brent
I'm glad you said that. Makes me feel better about my Billy Levine story.
Drew
Yeah, it's.
Brent
It's a horrible thing to trade stories.
Drew
Up for mandatory parole in, like, four or five years. He's been Denied parole a few times. He's, you know. I regret to inform that the marriage did not survive incarceration. I actually don't think it survived the lawsuits because I think that they tried to turn on each other. He did it. No, he did it. So, yeah, it was a little rough.
Tyler
Hey, Andy, apart from Lauterbrunnen.
Drew
Lauterbrunnen.
Tyler
Lauterbrunnen. Are there any other places in Switzerland from where you have done wingsuit flights and. Or BASE jumps?
Drew
Yes. My God, Switzerland is such a. It's like being a diabetic in a candy store. Everywhere you look, you. It's totally permissive. It's not illegal. They know that people are going to get hurt. They know that people are going to die. And they have a culture of if you want to do that, you're responsible for your choices that you make.
Brent
Imagine that.
Drew
Yeah. I mean, you know, there's a jump. Where the hell is it? In Switzerland. It's in the Point Break movie where they actually combined, like four jumps into the one where they flew down. It's a very famous jump called the crack.
Brent
Okay.
Drew
I've jumped there. I've jumped all over the place. And honestly, most of the names I wouldn't be able to give you because what I relied upon, I would always go with friends. And oftentimes they knew local people and they would just guide us. So. So it. I mean, the names of the. It's like. It's like that's where we are. I'm like, I don't even know what letter that is. But we would go and BASE jump there. I've been over there probably four or five times. So beautiful. And the fact that they. It's. Pick your own adventure. Yeah, sure, you might die doing this, but we respect your ability to choose that. Whereas in the US it is illegal, except for essentially twin falls off the perime bridge, which is where most people are.
Brent
Fun fact that I learned about Andy, that he won't say. He has probably just about 9,000 jumps. Have an airplane or jumps total.
Drew
Probably close to nine. Yeah.
Brent
That's insane. It's a lot of times it's really.
Drew
Low, though, in comparison to people who have worked in the sport. I know people with 40, 50, 60,000 jumps.
Brent
That's crazy to me.
Andy
He also flies a helicopter.
Brent
That's right. He also flies a helicopter.
Drew
I do now. Yes.
Tyler
Can you share with us the story of when you did the tandem jump with a chirp and not everything went according to plan?
Brent
Laffy face.
Drew
This is not a short story. This Is the single worst jumping experience of my life. So I can tell the story, but it's going to take like 10 minutes. So I don't know how much time we have.
Tyler
They did say if there's not enough time, don't worry about it.
Drew
Well, if you can't really not condense it, it was a proper show from beginning to end, then you know what.
Brent
Maybe we'll leave it as a teaser at the end. All right.
Tyler
All right.
Brent
Leave you on the hook for that or.
Tyler
Andy, during your skydiving career, did you ever get heavy into free flying? And do you think tunnel time is absolute necessary to learn to free fly?
Drew
Yes, I did get into free flying. So people unfamiliar with skydiving, most of the time you'll see pictures. People have their belly oriented to the ground, which would be considered relative work. Then there is more vertical flying aspects like sit flying, as if you look like you're in a chair or you're standing up, or then you're rotating on your axis and flying on your head. So a combination of sit flying, feet down, head down would be considered free flying. Super fun. You're going faster. You can. You can feel and manipulate the wind more because of the velocity you're flying through it. The wind tunnel is probably the most amazing skydiving training tool that there is. You don't have to worry about packing a parachute. You have to climb to altitude. You can get right in there and you get instantaneous feedback if you move a quarter of an inch. There is nothing like jumping with one of your buddies. And you get to the ground and you argue about who was moving in which direction. You're just a sack of absolute shit orbiting around each other in the sky with no reference point. And then you get in the tunnel and you're both bouncing off the walls because you realize you suck and you need more tunnel time. So if you have the money, I would invest it in the tunnel time.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
Because it's directly applicable to free fall.
Brent
Yeah. And where else are you going to get three and five minutes of free fall?
Drew
But if you move an inch, you see it. You know, if you jump out with your buddy, I'm like, is he going backwards or am I going backwards? Does he suck or do I suck?
Tyler
I want to know more about the mountain climbing story. He told a bit on Joe Rogan.
Drew
I don't remember telling a mountain climbing story. I'm not much of what you would call a mountaineer, Billy Weaver.
Tyler
You gotta get more specific. And I think that's it. I'm just gonna check the comments because I know people comment and they don't.
Brent
Flamingo tactical in the chat. Stu, did you see that?
Andy
Yeah, I saw it.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
I said thanks to him.
Tyler
Ask Andy the truth about what Brent and Tyler are doing under the water.
Brent
There is some footsie going on.
Tyler
What are two things from your military or post service career you do differently and why? Why? Why do you say two, just one.
Drew
Something I would do differently my post military career. Did he say during military or post military career?
Tyler
Either. One.
Brent
Man not get shot who doesn't.
Drew
Want an enemy marksmanship award. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I did what I could there. I just was on the wrong side of the odd. I mean, it has nothing to do with the military. I got my. I am divorced and remarried. I got married at a young age in my early 20s. And my advice to people would be if you can wait a little bit. Because I look back now, I'm in my 40s. I don't even recognize who I was in my 20s, let alone in my 30s. Totally believe in marriage. I think you can find the right person and you can grow together, but it's also possible to grow apart. And when you're that young, I don't even think you have an idea of who you are as a person. So I think you're throwing the dice a little bit more. So I would just say I would probably give my younger self the advice of just give it a little bit of a beat.
Tyler
When it comes to the hurdles you face from injuries, what has helped you overcome them? And he says, I'm still trying to get over hurdles from spinal injuries that required me from active duty. Seeking advice.
Drew
Celebrate every microscopic improvement that you can make.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
If you focus on what you used to be and how far away you are from that, you are going to spiral and it's never ending. It'll take you right into hell.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
Regardless of the level of improvement that you can make, focus only on that and then try to do just a little bit better the next time.
Brent
Because I say real quick that you may never get back to 100%. You may find out what is your new 100%. So every. I agree with everything you just said. Every improvement. Celebrate that.
Drew
Yep.
Tyler
Benjamin Lake. What's the biggest distinguishing factor between SEAL Team 6 and CAG? Tyler, can't wait to have you on Candy Plump.
Drew
I would say the biggest difference between the two is that they draw their people through a different origin. And Brett, you'll have to talk about who is able to come to Training in the selection pipeline there at development group, everybody has already gone through BUDS and come through the convent SEAL teams. It, in my experience in talking with the guys, I've never gone through otc, but it's a much wider net or pool and I make no comparison between the two. It is just different. You and I were talking about at a tactical level. There's different ways to cut the pizza pie at a little bit. A little bit. But honestly, it's largely the same people doing the same stuff.
Brent
Right.
Drew
And I don't know if it's better or worse that the SEAL community at that command only pulls from that. And I don't know if it's better or worse than that because when I was talking with guys, it was open to every branch in the military. They could at least put a package, right?
Brent
Yeah. They could put a packet into selection. Yeah.
Drew
Doesn't mean you're going to make it. But we didn't even offer people from a different branch the opportunity to do that. So that was, I mean, from a doctrinal level, that was one of the main differences that I saw.
Brent
Here's the only thing I wish you guys would have done differently. I know you guys call it no big fan of hair gel. Actually, there's, there's, as you'll find out, there's sometimes I parallel more with the SEAL community than my own. But I wish you guys wouldn't have called it Seal Team 6 because it really lumps like all the seals into one and people don't understand the drastic difference between a tier one element and the white side element. And I know like dev group, I.
Drew
Was told that that was actually intentional and it was supposed to be to confuse people looking at it from the outside. Yeah. And you know, like, hey, we'll just call it this because it'll be nondescript. I can see what you're saying for sure.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
An outside observer wouldn't understand the difference. There is, in my opinion, in my experience, a monumental difference in capability. And the reason for that is, is you focus, hyper focus on. On a very narrow margin of skill set.
Brent
Right.
Drew
Whereas traditional special operations are expected to do so many things, you just could not ever operate. Operate at that level.
Brent
Right.
Tyler
All right. We have to call Vanessa to get the Patreon winner.
Brent
Have to.
Drew
The Patreon winner.
Brent
Yeah.
Tyler
We do a giveaway.
Drew
What are we giving away?
Tyler
We're giving away 200 to human performance and.
Brent
And a flat range shooting experience with Andy Stumpf.
Tyler
Hey, Vanessa, I don't. Hey, can you give us A Patreon winner. I sure can.
Drew
Hold on one second.
Brent
Hi, Andy.
Tyler
Andy, Hello.
Drew
How do you guys pick the winner?
Brent
Patreon winner for this week.
Tyler
His name is Brian Langeliers. Why do you pick Brian? Oh, well, you didn't pick it. You randomly generated it. But it's.
Brent
If it's a hard name, Brian lost.
Tyler
It with his name. No. So Brian Langeliered. Brian Langilliers. Languliers.
Brent
And it's okay. The great thing about getting his name wrong or pronouncing it wrong is no one gets anyone's names right intentionally on this podcast. Podcast. So it's par for the course.
Tyler
All right, Brian, you are the winner of $200 to HBTRT. So we'll get in touch with you on how to claim that, but appreciate it, man. Thanks, Vanessa.
Brent
Get ready for them PRs, Brian.
Drew
We're really combining some genres. You're getting, like, questions off your phone. You're calling people. There's some wild.
Brent
There's a lot going on.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Yeah. All right, all right. Back to super chat to bring us back down to Center.
Andy
See? 20 up, Christopher. 50 bucks. Thank you, bud. Hey, fellas. Just saw Tim Scambo Kennedy did an interview with Cash Patel. If TK Charge was stolen valor, wouldn't it be Cash's FBI that charges him?
Drew
Is that how it works?
Brent
No. All right, well, I don't know how it works, but here's. I'll get on this. Stolen valor is not a criminal offense in itself. You could wear a medal of honor around your neck in this hot tub right now and say you want it all day long.
Drew
Is it somehow protected under the First Amendment?
Brent
And that is protected on the First Amendment of free speech. But the Stolen Valor act of 2013 ties it in to say if. Now, if you did that and profited off of it, it's now illegal.
Drew
Okay, so it's across the delineation between something that would be correct.
Brent
It's profited off it. And unfortunately, there's several ties into that. And I don't know if it's FBI worthy, but I don't know where it goes.
Tyler
To be honest with you, I have no idea.
Brent
It seems like it would be a federal cid. The A's in the National Guard. I bet you go to cid.
Tyler
All right, all right.
Andy
No. Slow Rob says, hey, guys. Smoking big cigars doesn't make this look any less gay.
Brent
Oral fixate. Hash. Finish it, Drew.
Andy
Hashtag oral fixation.
Drew
Yeah, I would have a question back. And that would be, is there anything that we could do that Would make this look less gay.
Brent
And I don't think he's got a.
Tyler
Ducky in his hand.
Brent
Devin, come sit in my lap.
Andy
All right.
Brent
Help me.
Andy
Let's see. Ryzee Brent. Thought he was smart getting Handy Andy in the tub. Wait till you get invited for wingsuit flying. Handy Andy, can you tell us flying story? Marika?
Drew
Yeah. You're not going to get invited for wingsuit flighting. People ask me often, you know, how do I get into it? And I tell them a, take your time and B, consider doing something else. Especially if you're going to pair it with base jumping. It's a. It's a years long progression if you're going to do it.
Brent
Okay, Is there a tandem version of wing flight there?
Drew
I have seen it. I don't know how readily available it is. Okay, if you're going to do a tandem, I'll just do a tandem. I don't think you would, actually. I mean, you can get moving forward close to triple digit speeds and triple your free fall time because your glide ratio or fall rate is so much slower. I don't think you could do that in a tandem system because you're still gonna have a drill gallon probably.
Brent
Do they have like beginner wing suits that are like a lot smaller, Smaller.
Drew
Surface area, fabric, way more flexible? Yeah, you could do it. Yeah, it's. I mean it's. It's challenging, but it's not exceptionally difficult, especially if you learn to skydive first and you take the time to get into it. So yeah, smaller suits, way more flexible, you can move your arms and legs. And then the bigger suits, it's just more surface area. So it's more you got to deal with.
Brent
Oh, I'd. I'd be good. I have. I have hundreds of jumps, Andy.
Drew
Hundreds. You would be fine. They say 200 jumps is the minimum for people to get into a wingsuit. You'd be fine.
Andy
All right. Flamingo Tactical lc. Great dudes down in Miami. I apologize, boys, but we had a deputy sheriff 2 days ago Take her own life. If anyone on here is dealing with darkness, please reach out to help.
Brent
Help.
Andy
You aren't alone.
Tyler
Amen.
Andy
Thank you, brother.
Drew
It's rough.
Andy
Jennison 11. When's the water going to be sold on the cleared hot and FRCC websites?
Drew
Probably as soon as we wrap up.
Brent
Here's Help us out, guys. What would you call this water? What would. You'd have to market it with a great name. Help us out with the name of this water.
Andy
We'll sell it as soon as we.
Brent
Can bottle it cleared hot hawt hot water.
Drew
It's rough, but it would sell.
Brent
It would sell.
Andy
Goons up. Says last one to finish has to drink the water. Ra K. What? Last one to finish.
Tyler
Like, is that a gay joke?
Brent
I don't know.
Andy
I guess last one out of the tub. I don't know. All right, Krishna Karanam. Who shoots better, Andy? SEAL Team 6 or Delta?
Drew
Depends on the person. You can't look at an entire organization and judge it by that. You got to go person by person. I know there's a lot of really competitive pistol shooters. This is me here in third hand. Please correct me, Brent. Yeah, a lot of really competitive pistol rifle shooters there. I would say the, you know, development group. There are people there who are into it as well. So again, it's. It's not like you can't go command versus command. You'd have to go person versus person.
Brent
Here's what's unfair about it and this is my feelings about it. And everyone should be proud of where they came from. I'm going to give it to Delta. But on a general scale. Let me tell you why, why I say that. And it's not just because you guys have come to our. Our compound and, and we beat you all the time and shooting.
Drew
Maybe we were letting you guys smash somebody in the home.
Brent
We have, we have a major advantage in that is, which is our ranges in our backyard that come to find out like as, as, as, you know, the longer I spent there and you go to the SAS and you know, and yeah. In the UK and Australia and JTF2 and you see all these other elements and we really are the only one with a range, with many ranges in our own backyard that it's, you know, cleared Hot365, 24 7. And it just gives you an advantage.
Drew
Yep.
Brent
Yeah, it just, it just does. It doesn't mean we're better people because of it, but we have access to it. Just random counter argument to that of. Of the why behind it. And I think that's a major. You know what's funny, and I'll say this. The two we. The two four is always a really good indicator of, of judging the two units.
Drew
Oh yeah.
Brent
Because. Because they work with both of us for sure. And I had several guys say, hey, if you want to go shooting, go shoot. Go shoot with the cat guys. But if you want to go jumping, go jump. A blue.
Tyler
Cool.
Brent
Yeah. I was like, I can see that there's.
Drew
For whatever reason, there's intermediate between the two.
Brent
Yeah. We have guys that jump too. But for whatever reason, it seems like you guys just gravitate that a little more. Just have more people with like higher numbers. And in that space I could be completely wrong, but it's possible. Yeah.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Not saying we can't do it. Obviously we can do it.
Drew
Obviously there needs to be a CAG Seal Team 6 shoot off somewhere. It's like, guys, go, yeah, team.
Brent
We're just, we're just going to build it up.
Drew
We'll build it up.
Brent
The fire.
Drew
You guys handle it. You guys in the hot tub. Yeah.
Andy
Wesley Pruitt with a big $300 gift. We really appreciate help keeping the lights on, brother. Wesley says, why are there no hot chicks in that tub?
Brent
Cuz she. Because she refuses. She refuses.
Andy
There you go.
Brent
And also if she comes in, Max will follow and that'll be a problem.
Tyler
That'll just play some water.
Brent
Max is our fat dog.
Andy
Zulu Whiskey. What's up boys? Brandy and Randy. Who does better, CQB the unit or Seal Team 6? And Andy, do opinion, positive or negative about the Seal Team 6 dudes from GBRS.
Drew
Like my personal opinion on them? Yeah, I. DJ and Cole I've talked with on the phone. I've never spent any time with them. I've never attended any of their courses. So I have no actual data points to give anybody my opinion on other than. And it seems like what they're doing is something that they enjoy and they seem to be putting out a good product and helping people. The CQB thing I'm going to go back to. It probably depends on the person. I mean, there's no CQB Olympics to actually. I mean, think about this. To actually test this, you would have to set up a scenario that is identical from an environmental condition, lighting condition, daytime condition, altitude condition. I mean, like there's no target in the world that is going to be exactly the same. I guess you could create like a CQB eliminated Olympics.
Brent
The variables are insane.
Drew
The variables are insane. Here's what I'll say. In my time, my short time working with a squadron there, they did CQB slightly different than us, which we adapted and did it the way that they did it. And they were both equally as effective. They were awesome at cqb and I don't know why anybody would say anything other than that. I don't know how to compare or rate the two though.
Tyler
All right.
Andy
Okay.
Brent
No rebuttal.
Drew
Yeah, that's how you replicate it. To actually even test that, I think.
Andy
We need to have an Olympics. All right.
Brent
But I'll say this before you say that they are both the best in the world. And there is. Like, there isn't a one and two. Like, they. They're. They're both Tier one. They're both tied for first. And I would tell you this. Second place. This is my humble opinion. There are great units out there. There. But second place in there is so. Is so far down. Like, I believe those Tier two. Those. Those Tier one units are so much further ahead than the rest of the world.
Drew
If you say you get to focus on any one thing, you're probably gonna be really good at it.
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
And if you look at the core competency of those units, it's like, hey, we're gonna find fix. We need you to finish. So cross the threshold of the door and get the job done.
Brent
And someone's gonna look at that and think I'm on some other country or other unit. And I'm not. I'm just telling you how good those two units are.
Andy
All right. Says what the Frog. Did I just open? Stanley, what is the longest you have had to maintain. Stanley, that's you, Andy. What is the longest you have had to maintain a sniper position? What are the most shots you've taken from a sniper position?
Drew
So I'm going to go on record. I've been claiming this recently. I am the Navy SEAL sniper with the most confirmed misses. I can miss a motherfucker like no one's business. I can just drill holes in air all day long.
Brent
You can scare the shit out of them.
Drew
It's amazing. I can get him to run, you know.
Andy
You're saving lives, bro. Saving lives.
Drew
So I went through sniper school in 99. I was really fortunate. It was the second school that I went through. My first one was comic school. Second was sniper school. I did not go over to the recce squadron when I was on the East Coast. So really in 2010 was my only chance to carry a long gun. And we didn't do really anything over 24 or 48 hours. Hours. So I would say that's the longest I've ever had to be in a sniper position. But I was rotating out with guys as well, too. You're just gonna get exhausted. You get just optic fatigue.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
What are the most shots you've taken from a sniper position? I don't know, like, all of the boxes with all of the ammo. Because it's like five or six shots to hit somebody. It's hard.
Tyler
Right.
Drew
And they move and they hide behind. Wind is A. I don't. I mean. I mean, all serious, and they're skinny.
Brent
It's not helping.
Drew
They don't leave. They poke around the corner, and then they go back.
Andy
You were just trying to hit them. You weren't trying to keep count?
Drew
Yeah, yeah, I probably. I have probably fired from one sniper position. Maybe 20 or 30 rounds. I did not hit. Well, I did hit the earth 20 or 30 times, but I did not probably hit anything in between the two.
Brent
Hit something.
Andy
All right, Officer Dangle says you have. Have a SEAL in the water and no ball for him to balance on his nose.
Brent
What in the hail? Yeah. Female guy. All right.
Andy
John Todd says Andy with. You are learning to fly helicopters. Knowing what you know now, would you have wanted to be in the 160th as a little bird pilot or still be a seal?
Brent
That's a good question. Yeah.
Drew
Helicopters are pretty awesome. I was very hesitant to want to learn how to fly them, and I've actually been having a fantastic time with it. I still would have wanted to be a SEAL, but I know of a guy who was a SEAL first and then became a 160th pilot. So I would have gone the SEAL route first and then probably later in the career, gone the 160th round.
Brent
I know one Green Beret that was a Green beret and a 160th pilot.
Tyler
Yeah.
Drew
End up playing. I think it was Daps first, and then just the 60s, which are still. The Daps are 60s as well, but they're personal carriers.
Andy
All right. I don't know about this one. Andy answers questions in circles. I disagree with that. Andy's a great, great. I like.
Drew
Let me answer myself. All right, let's get to that.
Andy
I'm getting out in front of this. He makes great PAO for Affairs Officer tk. If TK owned all his BS and his stolen valor, he'd be welcome back in the fold.
Drew
If Tim were to do that, he would probably be welcomed back into the fold by just about everybody. Because people make mistakes.
Andy
That's right.
Drew
So if people think that I answer in circles, that's your choice to take with what you want with what I say. I'm not trying to. I'm trying to give you the best answer I can based on the questions that I get. And if my answers are not sufficient enough for you, I really don't know what to tell you.
Tyler
Like it? Give me that hate back.
Andy
All right. Perez says, thank you for the gift, brother. Guys, will you guys bring attention to the bullshit Sharp program That is putting a lot of service members behind bars. A lot of them with no evidence at all. And even when there is proof of innocence, the service member still gets screwed over.
Drew
What is the Sharp program?
Tyler
Isn't that the sexual harassment?
Brent
Sexual harm harassment is sh. Awareness award. Sexual. Sexual harassment award.
Andy
Repeated pervs.
Brent
Look it up.
Tyler
I'm close, but we talked about it on this line.
Brent
Something programmed.
Drew
This is definitely after my time in. So I'm not familiar with this.
Tyler
Yeah, Sharp is an army. I know it's an army thing. It might not be a military wide thing, but it's a sexual harassment program. Something program.
Brent
I didn't know they were putting people behind bars without any proof of innocence. Since I hate to say this, I'm not completely surprised at it, but. But good news. I believe the pendulum is. Is swinging. And I don't think that'll. It was just a period of time that people had to suffer through. Did you? Sexual harassment, assault response. Sexual harassment, assault response and prevention. Okay. I hate it though. I hate it. And here's the thing. I've always. I've always said this. If you. If you. If you falsely accuse a man or woman of sexual harassment and you definitively find out to be that that is not. Not true at all, you should suffer the same consequences that that person could have faced.
Drew
I support this initiative.
Brent
Thank you.
Tyler
Do you think they made Sharp spell that way so they can make it Sharp, or do you think they actually had that program? They're like, whoa, that acronym.
Brent
Sharp.
Tyler
Sharp.
Brent
I don't know.
Drew
To be honest, I don't even understand that question. I don't know where you were going with that.
Tyler
You got it?
Drew
Yeah. Oh, did they start with Sharp and reverse engineer it or did it. Yeah, probably.
Andy
All right, Justin Carling. Who can hold their breath longer? CAG Daddy Andy or Mr. Griff checking in from the Gulf of America.
Brent
Nice.
Andy
Marika.
Tyler
Between you guys, it'd be an like. What do you call it? A black. A blackout.
Brent
Here's what I hate. I'm gonna be like, ah, you're a dive supervisor. Go do a 50 meter underwater swim for me real quick. I'm making it up. Some of it's not. I was like, hey, I could hold my breath amazingly at one point in my life. Yeah, but that's a tangible sky.
Drew
That point is not today.
Brent
For three minutes.
Andy
No. And the only way all three y'all getting your heads down that water is your feet's all coming up.
Drew
So actually if we were to try to get water. Water's coming out. Of this.
Andy
It's gonna be rough.
Brent
It'd be like, everybody go left.
Andy
All right. Our friend Chance Cooper, he says, breath holding competition right now. Ready?
Brent
Go.
Drew
You guys win.
Brent
And I give up. So Tyler wins.
Andy
All right, Andy, big fan of Cleared Hot. Did you happen to run into Pat Tillman on the Jessica lynch operation?
Drew
I did.
Brent
Oh, that's a good question.
Drew
Pat and his brother Kevin, who are both fantastic individuals. The first time I saw Pat, I was. It was after the first mission that we did into Iraq, which was the number one chem bio target. So we hit this thing in mob level four, which is a horrible, horrible experience. And a spoiler alert. It was an agricultural school that had nothing to do with chem bio anything.
Brent
Even worse.
Drew
So we come back and a door gunner in the Chinook took a round in the head head on the way in. And my puffy jacket was used to tie around his head. And I was trying to wash it in this makeshift wash tent in RR Saudi Arabia where we were staged out of. And while I was sitting there trying to deal with this Kool Aid colored water coming out of my jacket, I look over and there's a fucker in the desert doing wind sprints with one of those parachute things behind him.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
That was the first time I ever saw Pat Tillman. When we surged forward and we went into by app, he and his brother were attached to the Ranger element that we worked with consistently. And I actually got to know them quite well. I have stayed connected with his brother Kevin.
Brent
Really? Yeah.
Drew
He's come and visit me in Montana, and I happened to be in Afghanistan when Pat was killed. I was in Bagram at the time, and I remember Kevin coming in and just wrapped my arms around him and, you know, was there when Pat was put on the aircraft is horrific.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
Pat was more of a man than I could ever wish to be. He was fucking awesome.
Brent
Yeah. Pete Blaber wrote a book on that and we had Pete Blaber on the episode and give the whole layout of the whole thing. I learned a lot from that. Do you want to talk about such a. Such a tragic story that both could have been avoided? 1 and 2. I completely understand of how it happened.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Like, it's just. For sure. It's just a shitty situation.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
All right.
Andy
Am lumber, 100 bucks. Thank you, brother.
Tyler
Yeah.
Andy
Glad you guys are wearing tank tops to hide your baloney nipples, man. Last time I saw something that hot was when I caught Tim Kennedy wearing clown clown suit while giving out handies under a bridge for grenade Money.
Brent
Wow, man.
Andy
These guys.
Tyler
Hey, he paid 100 bucks.
Brent
You say what you want.
Andy
All right, John Todd. Hey, Brent, what's your current rap name? Is it Scruff? Master B, what is your best joint? Delta SEAL Team Six story.
Brent
Oh, man. Joint story. It's not as cool as you'd think. I just. It's the first one that comes to mind. We're in Syria. We're going to go do a hit on in. In Raka. And it's. And we're driving, and I swear to you, it's. It's essentially a joke that's waiting to be written. There's. And I said this out loud in the truck, and I said, hey, there's. There's a Delta guy, a SEAL Team 6 guy, and a ranger in the truck. Who's driving?
Drew
Probably the pj.
Brent
The Ranger.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
We laughed and laughed and laughed.
Drew
He didn't. He didn't laugh too much.
Brent
He didn't laugh too much. We laughed and we laughed, and that was a Memorial Day hit. And. And we had. I had stashed some celebration. Some celebration liquids.
Drew
Roadies, if you will.
Brent
Roadies, if you will. I'm not saying we did anything illegal. I'm. Whatever that means to you.
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
Yeah. And. And by the time we got back to base, we were in a good mood.
Andy
It was.
Brent
And it was. It was a good day. It was a good day. Good guys won again.
Andy
Magic Military. I guess this is for Andy.
Drew
That was my.
Andy
That was my seat collapsing. It was.
Brent
It's only a matter of time. Things have been going way too good for way too long.
Drew
Let me get that back in the water.
Brent
Yeah, you got to. I think you got to punch that middle side in to make sure that microphone. All right.
Drew
Felt weird.
Brent
Protect the microphone at all cost. We're good.
Andy
A nice. All right. I think this is for Andy. Did you feel ready for it when you. For you. I think it's saying when you fought for your black belt, when you got your black belt.
Drew
No.
Andy
Did you.
Drew
Anybody ever. Yeah, it. I don't feel like a black belt. I roll with black belts to make me feel like.
Brent
Like.
Drew
Or question whether or not we're doing the same activity. Like, are we doing.
Andy
Are we playing by the same rules here?
Drew
Like, where did you learn this? Yeah.
Andy
All right. And have you had the JTAC from the Cleared Hot podcast opening on.
Drew
No, and I tell you why. Because I've had four different people reach out to me telling me that they're the person on the audio. So I think I figured out.
Tyler
I Think.
Drew
I think that I have narrowed down who it is, but open invite to the person for sure. I just need to make sure that I have the right person seated in front of me.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
To do that episode.
Brent
How long did it take for you to get your. Your black belt?
Drew
Just under six years.
Brent
Wow.
Drew
That's pretty.
Tyler
That's pretty good, right? That's a lot of time.
Drew
I had the chance to train quite a bit.
Brent
If I started now, it'd be 50. I can't. I got that kind.
Tyler
You can always do it.
Brent
Yeah.
Tyler
This is a time thing. If you got enough time on your day.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
A Zulu whiskey. 20 bones for Tyler to take a shot or shotgun a beer. Cheers.
Tyler
I thought you say take a shotgun.
Andy
Shot or shotgun a beer.
Brent
Shotgun a beer. Oh, you're not drinking?
Tyler
No.
Brent
Why?
Tyler
How did you know that?
Brent
Because I heard you and Andy talking earlier. Why aren't. Weren't you drinking?
Tyler
It's a health thing. I have an issue with moderation. I don't like it. I don't. I do not. I have an issue.
Brent
I thought you were going so far.
Drew
As you say, take everything in moderation to include moderation.
Tyler
I just. I was. I mean, I. I'm in no way addicted to alcohol, but, I mean, when I. I was.
Drew
You know, that. That's what most alcoholics say.
Tyler
I'm on day four.
Brent
Okay. So I don't like your answer. That's stupid. Andy.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
What's. Give us your ridiculous answer.
Drew
I'm trying to do better with my health.
Brent
Bottom line that I. I was. I was listening to you two, and that was not your answer.
Tyler
His is way more noble than mine.
Drew
Well, mine is directly tied down that. So my wife is in a phase where she's getting ready to compete again in jiu jitsu. So you're going to dial in your rest, your recovery, your training, all of these things, and I would be kind of a really shitty husband if I was not trying to be in line with those things while she is trying to promote that. And honestly, yeah, I feel better when I don't drink. I recover better. I can train better. It's just. But yeah, it's. It's the right call.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
For me. And I still enjoy drinking from time to time.
Brent
I just don't do it much, generally speaking. I have a.
Tyler
About four beers a week Thursday night.
Brent
Thursday night. They're all on Thursday night.
Tyler
Yeah. And I. I'll probably get to that. I just kind of wanted to challenge myself a little bit and.
Brent
Okay.
Tyler
You know, go a while without beer. And see if it does anything with my blow inflammation, stuff like that. I've gained a lot more weight and I don't eat anything different, so.
Brent
All right.
Andy
I've been on the wife diet a few times. You know, I mean, it's like when they're on a diet, you're on the diet.
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
You got to be supportive.
Drew
Using her.
Andy
She's eating chocolate cake.
Drew
I'm using her desire to improve my own life. Like, don't get me wrong, like, there's. There's plenty of personal benefit for that.
Andy
We all need motivation somewhere.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
But Crack Malone, if Tim ever agrees to come on the podcast to do an apology, can you do it in the hot tub?
Drew
That's for you, too.
Brent
I'm out.
Andy
All right, this is.
Tyler
Wait, wait. They want to know.
Brent
I need two. That's what I'm trying to say.
Tyler
How hard is that?
Brent
That's what I'm trying to say. What.
Tyler
What was that? Communication breakdown?
Brent
Yes. And I'm saying yes, but I need two with you. Yes. Let's go. All right, let's go.
Tyler
All right. They're going to shotgun some beers for me. Thanks, guys. You guys are true friends.
Brent
Team player. But that also means I'm going to pee in the pool.
Drew
We have, like, 15 minutes left. Don't pee.
Brent
Hold. Okay. All right.
Tyler
They asked if Tim Kennedy came on and agreed to come here and do that, would you do it in a hot tub? It's too confrontational. We're too close. Close. If you. If you and him got into it in an argument, you'd be, like, touching each other's legs.
Brent
I. I believe this. There would be no arguing about this. Like, I'm. I'm not. I was. I feel like we were very professional when. When we. When we did it, we weren't immature and called them names and, you know, and went over the top on anything. And I'm not. And I'm. And I'm not going to change that. Like, he's. He has an open invitation to come here. We will figure out together what right looks like, and we'll abide by that. And. And again, like, we. It can be professional. It doesn't have to be like that. And I don't think it would go any other way, to be honest with you.
Tyler
So would you do it in a hot tub?
Brent
If you wanted it in a hot tub? We could do it in a hot tub.
Tyler
All right.
Andy
It's very unlikely that guys are going to go hands on in a hot tub. It should stay pretty still. All right.
Tyler
What's the super chats looking like we're at?
Drew
Wait, we're caught up.
Andy
Okay, we're close. Close. 13 minutes. This is jump master. White 68 specialist, no text.
Brent
How do you know JM stands for jump master?
Andy
Because he said it right here. Drew. This is pronounced says it right there. Drew. This is how you say my name.
Brent
The problem is I'm not that smart.
Drew
The clues are right there.
Andy
Thanks for asking. Now I really look like a dumb ass.
Brent
All right, I'll be underwater.
Andy
All right, Ben West, 50 bucks. Thank you very much, brother. 23 year career firefighter, paramedic here in Central Texas. Love Ben and Taylor. I watch all the stump shows too. Andy, you look super uncomfortable.
Brent
I want to person to say that.
Drew
Non consensually in a hot tub.
Tyler
How would you look?
Andy
All right, I want that game.
Brent
I'm right here. We're gonna do this for.
Andy
And I have an update. We got a hot chick in the tub.
Brent
All right, we're us.
Tyler
Two to one on the hockey game.
Brent
For anybody that's.
Andy
Oh, here.
Brent
Thank you. We're up 2 to 1 in the hockey game. That's a big deal.
Tyler
Oh, 2 to 1 to score, not 2. Okay, got you. How many games did they boo?
Brent
Did they boo our national anthem? I bet they didn't see it.
Drew
Think they're playing in the U.S. oh, don't. Are they playing in the U.S. don't.
Brent
Bring that into this conversation. Just. Just hop on this Canadian hate train for a second.
Andy
All right, Ben west also. I'm sorry.
Tyler
Sorry.
Andy
I want to see what.
Tyler
You guys shotgunning these or not? Shotgun. That's not chugging a shock. Okay, I'll take it.
Drew
Shot on the bottom.
Tyler
Yeah, you poke a hole in the bottom.
Andy
Guys, I've been white doing it for the boys.
Tyler
Not happy about this. You do it.
Andy
And a P and a little P came out.
Tyler
Okay.
Andy
I want to see what Drew looks like. Love all of y'all.
Tyler
Get up here.
Brent
Drew, get up here.
Tyler
Come here, Drew. All right, we're gonna get a camera for Drew.
Brent
Chris, go run. Go run the podcast. Drew's getting in the hot tub water.
Tyler
Drew looks like Paul Rudd in my idiot brother, and I'm not saying anything about idiot. That's what the movie's called. And he's just a chill dude. But, I mean, you gotta pull up the Google image of my idiot brother. And it's true.
Brent
I'm gonna look at that.
Andy
Drew looks like Paul Rudd and my idiot brother. I like that. Okay, next is Al dente earlier. Al Dente. Thought we weren't gonna say read a super chat. Here we are, Al. Well, Andy, I made a douchey comment on one of your cleared hot vids.
Drew
Probably deserved it.
Andy
And then you did an entire episode on my comment roasting me a few years ago.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Do you remember it? I'm okay.
Andy
I'm sorry. Here's the thing. 50 bucks to apologize.
Drew
The only people that know that are you and me.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
I guarantee you I didn't use your name or any identifying information, so.
Brent
Dude, is that al dente? Al dente. Send like, $1.99 chat back and just tell us what. What it was about and we'll read it.
Drew
I'm just. No recollection, but, yeah, we'll see.
Brent
We'll see if he can add some.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Yes. You do look like Paul Rudd.
Andy
It is. All right. Josh Daniels, our buddy. Josh.
Brent
Josh.
Tyler
Hey, what up, Josh?
Andy
Josh Daniels says Tim Kennedy would drink that water through a straw for y'all to leave him alone. All right. M back in. Hey, Tandy, do seals piss sitting down?
Drew
Sometimes.
Tyler
Sometimes right now.
Andy
Thank you.
Brent
Okay. There's a history to that.
Drew
Is there?
Brent
Yes.
Drew
Does it involve toilets? Because they're comfortable to sit on?
Brent
I feel like I already know. I was way too old when I found out and it hurt my man heart that men sit down to pee. And I was like, no, they don't. And I started, like, asking men around me, and an uncomfortable amount to me said, yeah, I sit down to pee. It's comfortable. Do you sit down to pee if.
Drew
It'S in the middle of the night and I turn the lights on? Okay, sure. From time to time.
Brent
You know what I hate? It was never even an option to me, so. Because of who was looking over your shoulder?
Drew
Checking.
Brent
I know, I know. I've never mad that he didn't take the opportunity. I'm. I'm part partially a little bit mad at that, but it's. It's too late in the game. I can't change. And so I still have to turn on the light, awaken myself, stand up to pee out of some sort of code that I live by and be upset about it and go to bed awake now.
Drew
Not all codes are created equal.
Brent
I know I'm upset at myself about this. I feel like at some point in my life, I'm gonna do it. It's just. Hasn't happened yet, but I will be honest with you, when it happens.
Drew
It's never happened.
Brent
It's never happened. I've never sat down there.
Andy
Yeah.
Tyler
Remember when Ron Swanson Grandma rolled the son of a. Yeah, it's gonna be him. He's gonna sit down and pee and.
Brent
Go, Son, people are watching you.
Tyler
Sit down and go. Damn it. This is really nice.
Brent
I know.
Andy
All right, let's see. Plight Designs our fella. 50 bucks. Thank you, brother. Little history. Yesterday was the 80th anniversary of the Iwo Jima invasion. 27 medals of honor, 200 Navy crosses, 15 over 1500 silver stars, over 3900 bronze stars and 19,000 purple hearts.
Brent
Wow. That's insane.
Andy
Brent, you still gotta watch that ad.
Brent
You still gotta watch that ad.
Drew
Which ad are we talking about?
Tyler
I thought he said ass.
Andy
Advertisement. Some type of advertisement.
Tyler
He sent it. Is that Play Designs?
Andy
Yes, Play.
Tyler
He sent that giant book or that box of books? Okay, you got a lot of homework.
Brent
I do, but what he just said just. Just blew my mind. I mean, that. Those are just insane numbers. I'm telling you, when I hear stories like that, like, I truly feel like. And I. I can say this with confidence, Andy. Like, we've collectively, we've done a lot. Like, some people would look at us as men who have done a lot. And I hear things like that and I look back and I go, no, I haven't. I. I don't know if. I barely saw war.
Drew
Have you ever read like a Bronze Star citation from back then?
Brent
No.
Tyler
Well, we were talking about it will.
Drew
Make you want to turn all of your in.
Brent
Yeah. Yeah, it does.
Drew
Like, I'm successfully charged 72 machine gun nests in a row, handedly killing everyone with a toothpick, maybe achievement medal.
Brent
I'm like, when I got done reading, I already said that. I already forgot Rogue Heroes, that SAS book. And I'm like, I was in Delta. They're SAS. We are not the same. Those guys in the SAS at that time were 10 times the man I ever was in combat. It's just insane.
Andy
Zulu whiskey. Love you guys. Guest suggestions. SEAL Team 6, Craig Sawyer. SAS. Christian Craighead and Alex Jones.
Brent
So Christian Craighead, correct me if I'm wrong, was he the. He reacted to one of those active shooters in Africa?
Drew
Nairobi, I believe. Yes.
Brent
Was it the same one that Kyle Morgan was a part of? It was a different one. Okay. Yeah. And. And he was like that. That kind of famous picture of him and jeans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a badass picture, by the way. Craig Sawyer. Who's that?
Drew
I know Craig Sawman Sawyer. I don't know anything other than that as his name. I've never met the man, so I couldn't tell you too much. I believe he is working pretty heavily in the anti human trafficking world right now, but.
Tyler
Oh, good.
Drew
Okay.
Brent
Okay. He's like a 90s.
Drew
90S.
Brent
Well, you were a 90s one too.
Drew
No, 2000s.
Tyler
Give me a decade.
Brent
Oh, I. I see from the odds.
Andy
From Will, the Os American white guy says, brent, I think I seen you come flying out of the compound headed to the range in a Humvee. When I was at Bragg back in the day. Sure as hell look like you, homie. Y'all boys were wild. Drove for swcs while I was stationed there.
Brent
The problem is we're all six foot white guys with beards. We all look alike.
Drew
It.
Brent
It, it could have been me. And for the sake of your story, I'm gonna tell you it was.
Drew
I don't feel like you guys have been driving.
Brent
Yeah, I don't know if I've ever driven. I don't. I don't know if I've ever driven a Humvee. Really? At the unit? Yeah. I don't know if I've ever driven a Humvee at the unit.
Drew
Yeah, it would. I'd be shocked if you did.
Brent
Yeah. I don't even think there's one at. At the unit. I don't. But I'll say this random. Sorry, I know we got a lot to cover, but you know, if we go past 10, we go past 10. When I was a green beret in training, we're running the. The fire breaks of. Of Fort Bragg, and this is two. And this black SUV pulls up to me. We're rucking. This blacked out SUV pulls up, bunch of dudes and beards inside, and they have a box full of donuts. And they just come to me as. They just come up next to me as I'm wrecking and they put the donuts outside the window and go, hey, dude, you want a donut? I look around like, is this a trap?
Drew
Probably.
Brent
I'm like, no, I don't want a donut. He's like, like, dude, if you wanted, like, I just asked, do you want a donut? Take a donut. You're burning calories. Take a donut. I'm like, I don't think I can take a donut. And they're like, if you want a donut, take the donut, dude. I'm like, I. I don't know if I can take a donut. And they're like, fine, no donut. They strolled up the window and drove off. That's it. Yeah, right. And I am certain, absolutely certain. This day, those were CAG dudes just, you know, driving the fire brakes, going to go do something. And you know what? I fully believe they just wanted me to have a donut.
Drew
100. They're like, I've been there. I've been that guy.
Brent
Exactly.
Drew
I'm gonna hook up my younger self.
Brent
Yeah. And they're trying to.
Drew
Younger self was like, this is a trap. I don't want your.
Brent
He just wanted to give me a donut. I've never forgotten that. I wish to God I could find out who those guys were.
Drew
That would be awesome.
Andy
That is awesome.
Brent
I love it.
Andy
All right. Ag Gregoroff.
Drew
Agorov told Flip Flop.
Andy
Gregor off to hold Flip flop. All right, 50 bucks. Thanks. Then came back with another 20 bucks and asked, where's Javelin?
Drew
He's with Leah. He knows this. I know.
Brent
Okay.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
Zulu Whiskey. Back in 50 bones for Tyler. Not drinking. I'm six months sober. Good job.
Brent
You might have just said, how long have you not been drinking?
Tyler
Four days.
Brent
Four days.
Tyler
And I don't know if I'm gonna never drink.
Brent
I just kinda do, you know, do you have a time that you're trying to make it to or. It's just. You'll feel figured out.
Tyler
Thursday.
Brent
Okay.
Tyler
A week from today.
Brent
Okay. And for you, do you. Do you know when the end date is for that? No, just. Yeah.
Tyler
Yeah, the same. I. And even if I.
Drew
One of us is an alcoholic, I have a different, more healthy relationship.
Andy
Oh, man. It's been fun having andy.
Brent
All right.
Andy
Jennison, 11. Thanks. Thank you very much. 50 bucks. Brent, how many seventh group guys have kids they don't know about? And Andy, how many team guys smoke weed on the team?
Brent
I love you guys. I. That's.
Tyler
How many. How many kids they don't know about in theater?
Brent
So it's funny you asked that question. 37. That's an exact number. I actually knew that. 37. There you go.
Andy
There it is.
Brent
That's the answer.
Andy
All right.
Drew
I have no idea. Some guys do, though.
Tyler
GW babies.
Brent
So I. I'll say this. And. And this is. Maybe the commanders are different. Different. I feel like they're the same. Like drugs. Like, while you're an operator in the unit, like, drugs was just. Was not prevalent. I don't know. I never saw anyone smoke weed. I never talked about. I never saw anyone even talk about cocaine. Like those illegal drugs. Just no one's willing to give up their career so much time over that. Yeah, I. Heck, no one even smokes cigarettes. Like, it's. It's. I Mean, they drink. Drink. They. God, do they drink.
Drew
Some guys that smoke cigarettes.
Brent
Yeah. I. I don't know of a single guy, just in my experience, that even smokes cigarettes. It's just. They're. I don't know. It's just. It's just not. And it's a culture thing. It's just not in the culture to. To. To do that.
Drew
There were some guys who were around on the drug train for sure, and they would occasionally get caught and. Yeah.
Brent
Oh.
Drew
The Navy does not look favorably upon recreational drug use.
Brent
Oh, here's the. And. And I could be wrong on this, but the. The unit is just so. They will come down on you so hard so fast. But I have seen people toy around with. With. With Ambien.
Tyler
Is that to stay awake or is that to.
Drew
That's the other one.
Tyler
The other one. Adderall stays away. Ambien goes.
Brent
If. If you're on an empty stomach and you drink and you add Ambien to that, you get loopy. Cool.
Drew
You're going on ride. Yeah.
Brent
You're going on a ride. Yeah. But, like, that's such. That's so low on the I.
Tyler
It's not a scheduled narcotic.
Brent
Right.
Tyler
It's just a prescription.
Andy
All right. Sun Wukong, wife's diet Ex. Question mark, Question mark. Somebody eats at dollar sign. Dollar sign.
Drew
Is that short for ass?
Andy
I believe that's true, Andy.
Brent
What's wrong with eating ass as long as it's female?
Tyler
Yeah.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
He's probably. What do you mean, what's wrong?
Drew
I'm not going to tell people how to party.
Brent
Live your life how you want to.
Andy
Well, that's how you stay married for 22 years and keep a good woman wife. Diet part. Not the other part.
Tyler
Not the ass part.
Andy
You went right with that.
Brent
I was like, drew.
Tyler
Damn, Drew.
Brent
Drew can really open.
Drew
Supportive of what my life has going on. If that's a bad thing, then tell you.
Brent
Oh, man. Okay.
Drew
All right.
Andy
All right.
Brent
Well, back on the same sheet of music, which.
Andy
Which is a appropriate next chat from Jorda Calypse rising. God is always watching. It is never an option.
Drew
Fact.
Andy
So there it is. All right.
Brent
Sometimes they're just statements.
Andy
Yeah. Valhalla is in the house. He says, there better be something equally as gay as this waiting for me.
Drew
When I'm there next week.
Tyler
That's what John Mattingly said. He's like, I didn't get a hot tub.
Brent
Yeah, yeah. We started something now that I don't think we can keep up with.
Tyler
You gonna have a hot tub?
Brent
For me. Yeah, I didn't. I never thought about that. I never thought about the. The fallout of. Of this decision. Thanks a lot, Andy.
Andy
I can't do the. I can't do the. I can't do the money changing in my head. 20 franks. Is that 20 bucks or is that. Or is that a dollar?
Brent
No, that's like 11.98.
Andy
$11. Didn't quite make. But he made the 20.
Drew
All right.
Brent
All right.
Andy
I hear active duty Green Berets are falling at a rate of 300 a year.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
Thoughts about three additional Ranger battalions for more people trying to go SF with one of them. As a reservist to keep senior enlisted.
Brent
I don't see that, that, that ever happening. The pro. The problem is. And all the special operations are having this. Are you tracking this, like, how bad recruiting is across the board, military wide? Yeah, military wide. The bigger problem is it's. It's a culture issue. It's a culture issue of America and the type of men that are being raised in America and what their values are and what they strive to be. Now, that being said, there will always be, and I believe, believe this like men in America that are willing to do the job, but at the same rate. That's. That has been the problem and it's fallen off. And I hate to say it. I'm. I'm not willing to bend over backwards or figure it out or lower the standards to, you know, or try to capitulate to these people to see it our way. You're. You're. You're either cut from that cloth or you're not. I would rather cut off and deactivate special Forces groups before, before we change our ways. Andy, what do you.
Drew
What I think you deviate from the standard which needs to come from the real world execution of your job. You're on a slow path to be just destroying the organization.
Brent
They don't, they don't want to accept that. Like, they're like, there will be a way. Like, it's. They feel like it's a recruiting. Like they're doing a bad job at recruiting. Recruiting, but maybe you can do a better job and you should try that. I'm not saying you shouldn't try that, but at the end of the day, the recruiting pool has been watered down and you're just not going to get those numbers. So maybe we really need to have a look at the slots available and say we have too many slots available and we just can't fill them. And that's.
Tyler
I think that's a hard thing to accept, though.
Brent
It is a hard thing to accept, but the.
Drew
I mean, what's harder, though? Accepting that or accepting mission failure because. Because you have the wrong people trying to do the job.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
One hurts up one up front and the other one hurts in the wall.
Tyler
Yeah.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
All right. Levi H. Says, okay, this is awesome. So maybe next one can be Yacht party special edition with Andy.
Brent
That's right. We'll just keep.
Tyler
Is there any inflatable yachts?
Brent
We're not that big. You're bigger than us. You'll have to. You'll. You'll have to do that. Invite us on.
Tyler
Yeah, okay.
Andy
Okay.
Drew
That was easy to be an inflatable yacht.
Andy
Mike R. Says, Andy, is it your voice in the intro of Cleared Hot? The Give it to me, I need it intro?
Drew
No, it is not. That is a controller. The guy controlling an A10 over in Afghanistan. That audio comes straight from YouTube.
Brent
Is that what you're talking about? Looking for the guy who actually did that. Okay.
Andy
Al Dente comes back in and says the comment. This is the guy that you did about.
Brent
Okay.
Andy
The comment was about Andy fence sitting during the BLM riots. Andy asked me to email him about it. Then he read my email on air and roasted it.
Drew
Again, I don't have any recollection of this. I don't know what makes somebody think that I am a fence sitter on really any particular topic. I hold opinions on some areas that are stronger than others and others that are not. So again, if you ask me a question about something you're passionate about, I'm not always going to be as passionate about it as you are are. So if that makes me a fence sitter, then you can call me a fencer if you want to. If I read your email on the air and roasted it, it probably was because it was deserving of being roasted. But again, I guarantee you I didn't put your name on there. I didn't identify you. And the fact that you're putting your name associated to this, I don't know what we're trying to get at here.
Brent
Well, one, I was kind of hoping you would remember it, and it was actually like something bigger than it was, but. But. But it seemed to be a nothing sandwich. But I'll go out a limb and say this. From the. The short amount of time we've known each other, and this is what I respect about you, if this is true, is that you could roast that guy. I'm assuming whatever he said is true and he roasted him. And whatever you said about him is, is probably deserving, but the same guy could, could come out and be like, hey, like you roasted me. And then you have an app like you're not going to hold that against them just because he said something dumb to you. Like, like it's.
Tyler
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're pretty fair.
Drew
I try to be.
Andy
And apparently it was a good episode because this guy earlier said he was sorry. So apparently you.
Tyler
Yeah, I think he's trying to get you to remember and it's not jogging your memory.
Drew
Yeah, sorry. I'll go back and search my email for it and if I can find it, I'll write you back. That's about the best I can offer.
Tyler
All right.
Andy
So. All right, we're almost done here. Scott Young actual says Alan.
Drew
Is that me?
Andy
I believe that's you.
Drew
Okay.
Andy
Yeah. How, how many grenades did you carry in your pack? And don't say 50. We know better. And keep your hands above the water.
Drew
I think the most, I think the most grenades I ever carry was three.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
You know, three bags. No, because then you have to like go into a bag. I think I might have thrown a grenade. For real.
Brent
I, I always had one on my belt for sure.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
I believe at times I carried two. And even on my, in my blowout bag. I think the most I had my blow up bag was like four or five.
Drew
I don't think I had any in a blowout bag, to be honest.
Brent
No. And, and the only reason, funny enough, the only reason I did that is because I had the, my, my backpack had these like side pouches that, that are like really deep. It'll be hard to explain.
Drew
Yeah, no, I get it.
Brent
But they, they were just perfect for grenades because I'd already filled up everything else with other things and I was actually looking for things to fill it up with. Like I might as well.
Drew
I just never really used them, so. They're awesome. But I never really had the chance.
Brent
I have to think about this for a second. I believe in combat always in Afghanistan I have thrown a total of. I'll be off by one or two, five grenades in my career.
Drew
Yeah, that sounds about average.
Brent
Didn't throw a single one in Syria. Didn't throw a single one in Iraq. I believe I've thrown five in my whole career. Career.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
In combat, which means in training.
Drew
I wish they were effective as people thought they were.
Brent
Oh, and that's, that's what. So we, we've said that before. We actually quit throwing grenade one for whatever it was. Very, like very one Trip specific. But for whatever reason during this trip. And actually, I didn't throw any grenades during this rotation, but our troop had thrown what seemed to be an unusually. An unusual amount.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Which still isn't a lot. Like, I'm not saying, like, 20. Like an unusual amount. And we would always throw them first. And anytime we threw them, we never killed anyone over it. And we'd get one back. We never.
Drew
It's not a fun game.
Brent
We never got one first. And then we're like, hey, we should probably stop this game because it's not killing them. Yeah. And we. And. And what we assumed is, you know what, when we throw one, they've been. They've been carrying the same pineapple grenade for. For 15 years, maybe 30 years since the Russians were there, and they forgot they were carrying it. But once we threw a grenade, they're like, oh, you know what? I got one too.
Tyler
I'll throw one down.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
So we quit.
Brent
Yeah. So, like, halfway through, we quit throwing grenades, and we never got one back out. You know, we never got one after that.
Drew
Yeah.
Andy
Raven two three says, randy, please throw a quack bang. You don't need to ask dad for permission. Yeah, it's a quack bang. I guess it's a duck grenade. I don't know. Matt K. It's 2025. If you're not eating her R, somebody else definitely is. It's standard. Also picked a weird time to join all of a sudden. Three dudes and a chick in a hot tub.
Drew
No.
Tyler
Let's go.
Andy
All right, there's a T shirt. There's a T shirt for you, Tyler, if you're not eating her or somebody else definitely is. There's.
Brent
Is that a T shirt? That sounds like a good.
Tyler
No, it sounds like a pod test. Three dudes in a chick in a hot tub.
Brent
Yeah.
Andy
There you go, Andy. All right. Does DEVGRU also take a dump in the enemy's living room before they leave the target?
Drew
Sometimes if you gotta go, you gotta go.
Andy
Yeah.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
There's also a backstory to that. I. I've done that before.
Drew
I know many people who have. Oftentimes they'll choose the sink, but, you know, do you.
Brent
No. Right in the middle of the living room. I wanted them to. I didn't want. I wanted to know right in the middle of it now.
Andy
Got a good poop story on the recording, so you guys, you know, stay tuned for that one.
Tyler
That's right.
Andy
Let's see. Soon, Wukong. What's wrong with eating arse there? He not Say there are two conversations that haven't stopped in my nine plus Marine career leadership and our thoughts on the military trying to kill marsoc.
Brent
I just heard this. I just heard this and I haven't seen an article and I haven't dug deep into it. Yeah, yeah, same thing.
Drew
I mean, do they have the idea of doing that or are they actually trying to do it? I don't think it would be a great idea.
Brent
Okay, here's. You know what? We should probably have you on for this episode. I always wanted to do an episode. Have a Green Beret, probably me, a Ranger, a SEAL, and marsoc. And each one of them, there's so many things that, that are in common with them, but at the end of the day they all have something very specific about them that makes them unique. And not a lot of people know that. And I'd love to hear that from, from each one of them.
Drew
That would be cool.
Brent
The problem I have on that. Thank you, sir, is, is this marsoc. And this doesn't make me anti Marine or anti MARSOC by any means. Don't even start with me with that because there's so many great dudes in that. But when MARSOC really became essentially a, a copy of the Green Berets, like they started like they, they went, they have their own Robin Sage, like they really took the green grays and they're like, hey, we're going to do what you do. Yeah. If that's the case, you, I'm not saying you, maybe you should do away with them. If you don't have your niche, then, then maybe you are on, on the chopping block. Or maybe you need to find your niche.
Drew
Yeah, I would need to see, I would need to see kind of a detail breakdown of why they're looking at them in that way. I did see an article, but honestly I looked at the title of it and didn't go much deeper than that. I would need a lot more info on that one.
Brent
Yeah. Do you, do you know this, do you know back when it was like a re. Like Force recon, there's such a, like a big like just. I don't. Stigma is not the right word, but like infatuation with the word force recon.
Drew
Well, before that it was the lerps, right? The long range Reconnaissance patrols.
Brent
Yeah. Like they were. So they, they had their niche, you know, because they were Force recon, they were a reconnaissance specific Pacific and they went to, when they went to marsoc, I think they lost that particular specialty. But you're right, I'D have to look a little little deeper into it.
Drew
Don't have enough info on it.
Tyler
Let's go.
Andy
All right, next one is Andy, would you ever have Dave Castro on the Cleared Hot podcast?
Tyler
Sure.
Brent
Do you know who Dave Castro is?
Drew
Yep, he's the. He runs the CrossFit games for CrossFit. Okay.
Brent
Okay.
Andy
How arms is back in the story you brought brought up got up about it you climbing.
Tyler
Oh, he's, he's resent it. To me, it's supposed to say any story on climbing is from his sewing machine leg while climbing. Then a free climber told him where to put safety.
Drew
Yeah, so we were in Colorado as lead climbing the Bastille Crack, which is not some like Mount Everest of a climb. However, I'm not that good of a climber or I wasn't that good of a climber. And four lead climbers went down there and we were setting our own protection. I was up probably 10ft above my last pit of protection. So the fall would have been 20ft 10ft above to 10ft below. And I had run out of what I thought were options and basically just decided that this is where the climb ends and this is where I live now for the rest of my life and you know, starting to consider how long I could hold on here and like yeah, you get a little sewing machine leg and a guy.
Brent
So I miss you.
Drew
I climbed up, up in street tennis shoes smoking a cigarette and he's like, he's like ash. And he's like hey, you should put it right there. And I didn't even want to look at him cuz he had no rope anywhere near him. Like one of these just legendary cl. I'm at the ragged edge of what I am comfortable with and the dude's just out there just yeah, just put her. I'm like get the away from me.
Brent
So demoralizing.
Drew
And he just scurries off in his tennis shoes. And I was eventually able. Well, shockingly enough, I put the piece of protection where he said finish the climb. I wouldn't even look at him. I'm just like, no, no, I'm not looking at you with no protection. No, I'm not.
Brent
So on. On that last topic, I have a question for that I, I can't really answer, but I don't think you could answer this question either. But I'm gonna ask you just to put you on the spot, what are the Green Berets legacy mission? Like what. Why you're good. It is, it's unconventional warfare. What. What is the SEALs like Legacy Mission.
Drew
Or their charter maritime special operations to the hinterland, I think to be the technical doctrine, which don't ask me what the fuck that is anymore, I used to be able to tell you. But it's basically a certain distance past.
Brent
The waterline and that's okay. That's kind of what I kind of thought. But is, is there a definitive like distance of that?
Drew
I think maybe somewhere on a piece of paper there might be. But the reality is when you're fighting a dual strategic war, a lot of that shit goes out of the wayside, you know what I mean? And so we all had our specialties and then it became very gray. But it was supposed to. It was the special operations component of the Navy, so it was amphibious operations and things like that.
Brent
I mean, you say that and you're absolutely correct. Unconventional warfare is the charter of the Green Berets. But we don't actually do unconventional warfare. We, we didn't during gwat. We really did.
Drew
Mainly by, with and through with the partner force. I would consider to be that.
Brent
That is not. Yeah, that's not, that's not, that's not.
Drew
Unconventional warfare by doctrine.
Brent
It's not unconventional by doctrine. By doctrine. That's not unconventional warfare. Yeah, that's more, more towards either FID or force. Or force multiplying.
Drew
Okay, so.
Brent
So no one's really doing their.
Drew
No, it's very gray. It's very gray.
Brent
Right? Yeah.
Andy
Dustin Cook says Andy's story about running from the cops at the bar is one of my favorite stories.
Drew
I lost my trident shortly after I got it for calling a bar a knife in a bar fight and then ran from cops and all sorts of stuff.
Tyler
You got caught.
Drew
Yeah.
Brent
Yeah.
Drew
You know why you weren't a blue.
Tyler
Belt all the time?
Drew
Cuz I was Jason Bourne and I forgot we told them who we were and where we were staying. So they waited for me at the Air Force case, the gate of Davis Month and Air Force Base. Yeah, we're like, we're so good. We got away. We pull up, there's like, is there an Andy Stump in the car? I'm like, I'm so.
Tyler
That's awesome. That's awesome.
Andy
Zulu whiskey says, can you each describe your game time Red dawn rifle o mine's a 12.5LMT spec war with red dot and five time magnifying fire.
Brent
Game time Red Dawn. Okay, for, for me it's, it's, it's my Nemo Executive 260 sniper weapon. And I say that because if it's. It's if it's truly red dawn and I. And I do believe this, especially in this scenario or early on in the, like the Ukrainian war, a good, highly trained sniper will just wreak habit absolutely havoc. And that's what I'm going with.
Drew
Okay. I honestly would probably go with something probably an M4 only because there's gonna be readily accessible ammunition. Like, I don't know anything about that particular caliber. I love people when they go into the gun world and they get super specific. But I want something that I can take on the road. I can source ammo almost everywhere. It's a. It's. I have the gear for it already. Is it the most capable weapon? No. But I'm super comfortable with it. And I just feel like you'd be able to replenish right pretty often.
Brent
Spot on. The biggest problem with that that is. Is you. But I'd better stockpile 260 before this happens.
Drew
If you have some niche round. That's amazing. That sucks if you can't get any more of it.
Brent
Yeah, absolutely.
Tyler
That was well thought out.
Brent
Yeah.
Tyler
Yeah.
Drew
I don't really.
Tyler
I was just gonna say because I don't know how to shoot anything.
Drew
That also is what works good. It's a NATO cartridge. You're gonna find it everywhere. You'll be fine.
Brent
Yeah. All right.
Andy
See? Psych 101 says so. It took a frog to get a pool and a hot girl on the podcast.
Brent
Essentially. Yeah. God.
Drew
This was not my idea.
Tyler
He said it like eight times, by the way. Just got to make it clear with.
Andy
With the genuine facial expression too. This is not my idea.
Drew
It's not. We've been sitting this for like over two hours.
Tyler
I know. We're about to wrap it up.
Drew
I was told to keep hands on the.
Tyler
We're caught up.
Brent
Right.
Drew
Last.
Andy
Last one is Vanessa says, drew, let's invite Andy to the FRCC versus BRCC show.
Drew
There can't be one of those because we're mortal enemies. Because two brands can't collaborate and not the enemies.
Andy
Love it.
Brent
We did it.
Tyler
All right, guys, you can't reach your.
Brent
You Bluetooth.
Tyler
Somebody's gotta get out.
Brent
Can you turn on my Bluetooth speaker? Chris, you gotta hold the power.
Tyler
Yeah, you gotta hold it down about three. No, no, right here.
Brent
No, no, it's right here. It's that Marshall speaker above my humidor.
Tyler
Go to the right.
Andy
I also just want to make it this announcement. The chats all night have been asking Brent to move his phone. And I just want to let you know it never it never. It never fell in never C Daddy.
Tyler
Knows our award as an as.
Brent
Well.
Drew
Yeah I did the million one is.
Brent
Just around yeah, I'll wait on that one. That one's empty. Okay. Sorry.
Andy
Yeah just scattered. He's off to the new shiny thing.
Tyler
Yes.
Brent
No no, no.
Drew
That's.
Brent
That's. That's. No, that's not it. That's too slow low.
Andy
For those who.
Brent
Didn'T know I'mma send it over to you.
Drew
Just go with higher.
Brent
It's a classic Chris. This is what I got. This is what I'm going to hand.
Tyler
Me and Andy a towel because we.
Brent
Can'T get out my own prison one forms a perfect that's what I got readily available cuz we're in love it.
Drew
We'Re in a old creepy is good.
Brent
He'S the best creed all right. Well this is the part where we read all the comments that you didn't pay for.
Tyler
I'll take my towel now out of.
Brent
Here more or less. You're staying fix all the ducks though. Let's fix all the ducks. Ronnie builds doing in each other's here watch this. It. It actually was not. It wasn't that hot in here. We. We. We turned it down. Vanessa's in there. But Vanessa, you don't get your comments read. Oh, it didn't like Drew. Where the comments at?
Tyler
Come on, Andy. I know better.
Brent
No, the unpaid comments.
Andy
Oh oh, my bad.
Brent
That's the end of the episode.
Andy
My bad, my bad. All right.
Brent
I will chill as well. Flamingo tactical. Be safe boys.
Andy
Be dangerous out there in Miami.
Tyler
Sun Wu Kong.
Brent
Congrats at 100,000 killers. Thank you. Thank you, Wilson. As always. Good to see you, brother. All right, time for pool cop. Nothing but peeing. Freedom. I did not pee this whole time. Andy asked me to hold it and out of respect I did. But I'm going straight to the bathroom after this. My eyes are yellow.
Tyler
I'm good.
Brent
Does Andy remember the war between east coast and West Coast Navy SEALs? I kind of feel like I missed it. But do you remember that like west.
Drew
Coast nobody was doing anything? It's like, who are you going to fight?
Brent
Yeah, a little pre 911 nobody was doing.
Drew
So they're like, yeah, well, we almost planned a boarding.
Brent
We almost did something. We almost planned one.
Drew
We didn't do it, but we thought about it.
Brent
Good show, Sandy Stump. All right, where's the sing along that I paid for? And I said where you going? No, stay here. I like how it was not the right place.
Tyler
Over now.
Brent
Sorry. All right. We're back.
The Antihero Podcast: Squadcast (Live) – Episode Summary
Release Date: February 21, 2025
Hosts: Brent, Tyler, Drew, and Andy
Description: Part Delta Force. Part Street Cop. All Truth.
The episode kicks off with the hosts Brent, Tyler, Drew, and Andy preparing for a live Squadcast session from an unconventional setting—the studio's newly installed hot tub. Brent exudes a sense of logistical preparedness, stating, "I've been training my whole life logistically to pull off an operation like this" (03:10). The conversation quickly shifts to the technical challenges of broadcasting from a hot tub, highlighting the blend of professionalism and camaraderie among the hosts.
Notable Quote:
"We just splurged money." – Brent (02:41)
Tyler introduces the episode with a sponsorship shout-out for Cloud Defensive, promoting their weapon-mounted and handheld lights. The brief advertising segment sets a tone of professionalism before the hosts engage in light-hearted banter about the setup.
Notable Quote:
"That's it." – Brent (01:19)
Tyler announces the possibility of inviting Ed Calderon, a former counter-narcotics officer from a special police unit, as a guest. The hosts express enthusiasm about Calderon's expertise, referencing his appearances on prominent platforms like Joe Rogan’s and Sean Ryan’s shows. However, Brent humorously doubts Calderon's availability, noting logistical constraints: "That's going to be tough. But we'll try." (04:38).
Notable Quote:
"Evan, Justin, every. With everything happening at the border, you should bring on Ed Calderon." – Tyler (04:23)
The discussion evolves into a comparison between their studio setup and Joe Rogan's, with Brent teasing about attracting high-profile guests like Tim Kennedy. The hosts touch upon the challenges of replicating the success of established podcasters, ultimately reaffirming their unique identity.
Notable Quote:
"I don't think he'll ever do this, just for clarity." – Drew (06:23)
A significant portion of the episode involves interacting with live questions from listeners, commonly referred to as "super chats." Topics range from personal anecdotes to broader military discussions.
Javelin vs. Carl G: Drew shares his preference for using Javelin missiles over Carl G grenades, citing their reliability and user-friendliness. He mentions, "I think you really need training or even extensive training and using the manual initially," reflecting on the complexities of weaponry (15:07).
Tattoo Stories: The conversation shifts to military tattoos, with Drew discussing his "bone frog" tattoo—a symbol tied to his military training and lost comrades. Brent appreciates the tattoo's design, highlighting the emotional depth behind such symbols (26:00).
Humanizing Military Experiences: Brent shares a humorous yet telling story about a flashbang explosion in a confined space, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of military operations: "I actually thought we had just gotten mortared." (09:34)
Notable Quote:
"All right, winner of $200 to HBTRT." – Tyler (82:27)
The hosts delve into a sensitive topic surrounding Tim Kennedy and allegations of stolen valor—a serious accusation implying the false claim of military honors.
Drew’s Stance: Drew firmly states, "It's not my kind of content to make videos targeting or pointing out any one person," indicating his reluctance to engage in public disputes. He emphasizes personal integrity and the importance of addressing controversies directly rather than through media channels (45:00).
Stolen Valor Act Insight: The conversation touches upon the legal aspects, clarifying that while false claims of military honors are protected under free speech, profiting from such claims is illegal under the Stolen Valor Act of 2013.
Notable Quote:
"You can wear a medal of honor around your neck in this hot tub right now and say you want it all day long." – Brent (84:25)
A lively debate ensues about the distinctions and capabilities between Navy SEAL Team 6 and Counter Assault Group (CAG).
Training and Selection: Drew and Brent discuss the rigorous selection processes of both units, acknowledging that each attracts highly skilled individuals but operates with different training focuses.
Operational Capabilities: The hosts acknowledge the specialized nature of each unit, debating their respective strengths in areas like Close Quarters Battle (CQB) and unconventional warfare. Brent suggests that CAG might have an advantage due to superior training facilities: "We have access to it... just a random counter argument to that of why behind it." (81:50)
Notable Quote:
"There isn't a one and two. Like, they. They're both Tier one. They're both tied for first." – Brent (90:07)
The hosts share a series of personal stories, each infused with humor and camaraderie:
Sniper Stories: Drew humorously admits to having a high number of misses in sniper positions, fostering a light-hearted atmosphere: "I can miss a motherfucker like no one's business." (94:29)
Climbing Misadventures: Drew narrates a memorable climbing experience in Switzerland, highlighting the unpredictable nature of extreme sports: "The dude's just out there just yeah, just put her. I'm like get away from me." (135:13)
Diet and Lifestyle Jokes: Tyler discusses his attempt to reduce alcohol consumption, justifying it as a personal health choice while the hosts tease him about moderation: "I'm six months sober." (105:00)
Notable Quote:
"I can see what you're saying for sure." – Brent (81:50)
Throughout the episode, the hosts continuously engage with super chats—comments and questions from listeners—addressing a variety of topics from humorous remarks to serious inquiries about military operations.
Humorous Interactions: The hosts often respond to jokes and light-hearted comments, maintaining a playful dynamic in the hot tub setting.
Serious Inquiries: Some super chats delve into deeper military tactics, unit capabilities, and personal experiences, allowing the hosts to share their expertise and insights.
Notable Quote:
"I am divorced and remarried. I got married at a young age in my early 20s." – Drew (78:22)
As the live broadcast nears its end, the hosts reflect on their interactions, express gratitude towards their sponsors, and tease future episodes. Brent proudly showcases receiving a YouTube plaque for surpassing 100,000 subscribers, illustrating the podcast's growing popularity: "I never cared about the numbers, but now I want that plaque." (64:36)
The episode concludes with light-hearted banter, final super chats, and a sense of accomplishment among the hosts for a successful live session from their unique hot tub studio.
Notable Quote:
"I'm telling you, if you don't have goosebumps watching that, like you check your American card, you might not be there." – Brent (36:34)
This live Squadcast episode of The Antihero Podcast offers a blend of professional military insights, personal storytelling, and engaging audience interaction, all set against the relaxed and unconventional backdrop of a hot tub studio. The hosts adeptly navigate a spectrum of topics—from weaponry preferences and unit comparisons to personal anecdotes and controversies—maintaining a balance between informative content and entertaining banter. Notably, the episode underscores the importance of authenticity and camaraderie within the special operations community, resonating with both seasoned veterans and curious listeners alike.
Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and are used to reference specific sections and quotes within the summary.