Squadcast (Live) 05/22/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: Squadcast (Live) – May 22, 2025

Episode Overview

In the live Squadcast episode released on May 23, 2025, The Antihero Podcast delves deep into the controversial figure Cory Mills, aiming to uncover the truth behind his alleged military exploits and current political standing. Hosted by Brennan, along with co-hosts Dalton, Lee, Don Edwards of Green Line Tactical, and supported by Forest and Drew in the producer roles, the episode is a blend of intense discussions, listener interactions, and insightful commentary on law enforcement and military matters.

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1. Introduction and Setup [00:02 – 01:23]

Brennan kicks off the episode by welcoming the audience to another Thursday night Squadcast, introducing the topic of Cory Mills and setting the stage for an investigative discussion. He mentions the presence of friends and experts, including Don Edwards from Green Line Tactical, hinting at a comprehensive analysis ahead.

Notable Quote:

"We got a killer of an episode for you. Was Cory Mills lying? We're gonna try and figure that out." — Brennan [00:02]

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2. Technical Upgrades and Production Insights [01:23 – 02:21]

The hosts discuss the new technical setup for the podcast, including enhanced cameras and microphones, which allow for better interaction and visibility among participants. They share light-hearted banter about Drew’s camera angle, setting a casual and engaging tone for the episode.

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3. Upcoming Episodes and Content Teasers [02:21 – 04:10]

Lee and Don Edwards tease the upcoming episode featuring Don's own installment on "The Antihero," scheduled to air the following Monday. They hint at dissecting cop videos that range from humorous to serious, focusing on training and real-life incidents.

Notable Quote:

"We're going to just like some of the cool guys from the special forces world and get them to answer some questions that like really add like Sonar all these different stories we have." — Lee [03:48]

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4. Live Listener Interactions and Super Chats [04:10 – 12:00]

The hosts engage with live super chats from listeners, addressing various topics from concert experiences to personal anecdotes. Lee recounts attending an AC/DC concert in Tampa, sharing observations about the band's enduring popularity and the concert's changing atmosphere.

Notable Quote:

"They have a few songs, and... and it was. The stadium was looking kind of empty. And at some point, Devin looked over at me, and she was like, I don't think they're gonna fill this stadium." — Lee [02:46]

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5. Discussion on Police Tactics and Training [12:00 – 20:10]

A significant portion of the episode centers around a recent active shooter incident at a Las Vegas gym. The hosts analyze bodycam footage, discussing the suspect Daniel Ortega’s calm demeanor and the police’s effective response despite the threat. They commend the officers' skills in handling the situation swiftly and efficiently.

Notable Quote:

"He was moving that calmness, man, that calmness, man, that. I don't care who you are, man. Cops. He was probably sipping a coffee or watching Netflix or something." — Lee [16:57]

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6. Caliber for Concealed Carry Debate [08:12 – 10:00]

The podcast shifts to a technical debate on the best caliber for concealed carry. The consensus among the hosts is that the 9mm is the most lethal and controllable option, emphasizing that shot placement is more critical than caliber size.

Notable Quote:

"ROUND placement trumps Trump's caliber. Yeah. I don't care if you... I don't care if you got a .22. You put the round in the right place, they're going down." — Lee [08:51]

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7. Spotlight on Don Edwards and Military Background [10:08 – 29:04]

Lee provides an in-depth background on Don Edwards, highlighting his impressive military career as one of the first Green Berets he met, including combat experience in Panama, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Don shares stories from his deployments, emphasizing the camaraderie and challenges faced during missions.

Notable Quote:

"Don Edwards is one of the first Green Berets I ever met when arriving to group, and only to find out he's a... he's a Ranger that jumped into Panama." — Lee [10:10]

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8. Active Shooter Incident Detailed Analysis [29:04 – 43:03]

The hosts continue their analysis of the Las Vegas gym shooting, discussing the suspect's weapon malfunction and the commendable performance of the responding officers. They dissect the suspect's shooting technique, praising his control and rapid shot placement, while also acknowledging the psychological readiness required for such split-second decisions.

Notable Quote:

"He was on the dot and, and, and on that trigger. Nice and good. Yep, nice and good." — Don [16:34]

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9. Listener Engagement and Song Requests [43:03 – 78:30]

Throughout the episode, the hosts interact with listeners' super chats, addressing various questions and requests. These range from technical inquiries about firearms to personal stories and humorous song requests. Notably, there are multiple mentions of songs like "Family Tradition" by Hank Williams Jr., reflecting the community's engagement and the hosts' camaraderie.

Notable Quote:

"If you're gonna carry a semi auto, make it a 10 millimeter." — Don [39:38]

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10. Stolen Valor Controversy: Corey Mills Exposed [78:30 – 123:56]

A critical segment of the episode focuses on exposing Cory Mills, a Republican Representative from Florida, accused of fabricating his military record. Hosts Brennan and Lee present a detailed account based on an article by Blaze Media, highlighting inconsistencies in Mills' claimed military honors and service. They discuss testimonies from former colleagues who assert that Mills exaggerated or lied about his experience as an Army Ranger and Special Forces medic. The hosts emphasize the dangers of such deceit, particularly for someone in a position of political power.

Notable Quotes:

"He was never in the military." — Lee [122:14]

"Mills often has made the claim that he was blown up twice while on mission in Iraq." — Lee [127:00]

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11. Conclusion and Final Thoughts [123:56 – End]

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the discussions, reiterating the importance of honesty and integrity, especially for public officials. They express appreciation for their listeners' support and tease upcoming content, including potential deep dives into historical military operations and further analysis of current events.

Notable Quote:

"When you lie about your military record, you are just... It's just automatic removal." — Brennan [127:00]

"It's insane. You can lie about service to your country and still be elected officials, official representing the American people. That's pretty. That's pretty crazy." — Lee [136:03]

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Key Takeaways:

• Cory Mills' Controversy: The episode provides a thorough examination of Cory Mills' disputed military record, citing credible sources and firsthand accounts that challenge his claimed accomplishments.

• Active Shooter Response: The hosts commend the professionalism and effectiveness of law enforcement in handling the Las Vegas gym shooting, highlighting the importance of training and quick decision-making.

• Firearm Caliber Debate: A consensus among the hosts favors the 9mm for concealed carry due to its balance of lethality and controllability, emphasizing shot placement over caliber size.

• Integrity in Public Service: The discussion underscores the critical need for honesty among public officials, especially regarding their service records, to maintain trust and ensure public safety.

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Final Remarks

The Antihero Podcast continues to blend rigorous analysis with engaging conversations, providing listeners with insightful discussions on military and law enforcement topics. This episode stands out for its investigative approach towards political figures and its emphasis on integrity and accountability.

Transcript

[Brennan]

Welcome back to another Thursday night squadcast. Thursday nights for the boys. We got a killer of an episode for you. Was Cory Mills lying? We're gonna try and figure that out. We got our friends Dalton, we got Lee, we got Don Edwards of Green Line Tactical, me and Brennan, Forest and Drew behind the producer seat. Hang in there.

[Drew]

It's.

[Brennan]

Oh, it's the first Thursday they can't see us. There we are. It's the first Thursday with. With all the new. New camera set up, the new mics. Everybody's mic'd up. You can even hear Lee and Dalton and see. Oh, there's Drew. Drew cam.

[Lee]

Oh, we're gonna be regretting that.

[Brennan]

There you go. The couch cam. It's just gonna be all Drew. He just leaves it on his face.

[Don]

This is the Drew show.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

You guys should have never left me in charge.

[Brennan]

So. Yeah, Don just filmed with us today his episode on the Anti Hair that'll air Monday. And so, yeah, the. We got a couple cop videos to break down. They're. They're not funny. Well, there's a couple funny ones, but some of them are serious and talk about training, talk about what could have happened. Laugh at them a little bit. They're all alive, so it's okay.

[Lee]

We're gonna drop that episode Monday.

[Brennan]

Monday.

[Lee]

All right.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Well, why should you watch? I don't know. How many guys do you know jumped into Panama?

[Don]

Yeah, I know. A few.

[Lee]

Well, not. Not you, Don.

[Don]

All right.

[Brennan]

Let a couple more people get in here.

[Lee]

Been on a concert roll here lately?

[Brennan]

No, I'm jealous.

[Lee]

This weekend was AC DC in Tampa.

[Don]

How cool was that?

[Lee]

Oh, it was cool. It was cool. They had a pretty. Pretty reckless. I don't know if you know that they are. But they have a. They have a. They have a few songs. And. And it was. The stadium was looking kind of empty. And at some point, Devin looked over at me, and she was like, I don't think they're gonna fill this stadium. It's like 30 minutes before showtime. I'm like, yeah, this isn't looking good. I don't know where they all morphed into, but by the time they hit the opening chord on the guitar, the place was packed. ACDC is still. I don't know if they sold it out, but they filled up the stadium. Yeah, they're still packing out stadiums at, what, 88.

[Brennan]

How old are those guys you had. Oh, there he is. A little late.

[Lee]

Oh, Magnet.

[Brennan]

Whatever the hell you want.

[Lee]

Oh, the old. The old late entrance.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Welcome.

[Brennan]

He walked by a camera like this. That's just the way I walk. Yeah, it's. It's the last time you're gonna be able to see acdc. Yeah, every time.

[Don]

The last time.

[Lee]

Yeah, it was, it was a great concert. They, they, they. I don't know. I don't know who's, who's, who's given them all their energy shots to keep them up and moving, but they, they're, they're, they're making their money.

[Don]

Hopefully they're using that discount code, trt.

[Brennan]

Do you guys, do you guys know who the singer, the pretty reckless is?

[Lee]

Some blonde chick.

[Brennan]

It's Cindy Lou who? From the Dr. Seuss movie.

[Lee]

Get out of here.

[Brennan]

Jim Carrey. Is it really the little girl from that movie?

[Lee]

It makes you feel old, but that's crazy. All right. Fun. You gotta say fun fact.

[Brennan]

Fun fact.

[Lee]

Fun fact.

[Brennan]

Fun fact. I say first. Living in fomo. Rockville. Welcome to Rockville. Happened last weekend.

[Lee]

Magnet went to Rockville.

[Brennan]

Yeah, last year I didn't go. I was like, I didn't need to go. Every person I ever knew in my life was at Rockville four days straight of some of the best rock bands ever in Daytona. It looked hotter than balls.

[Lee]

But I remember last year when they had that massive, like, cell phone stealing ring. Yeah, yeah, and they caught them, too. Guys just like going into mosh pits and then like roughing dudes up and then like stealing their iPhone. Yeah, and they caught them.

[Brennan]

Yeah, they caught a ring. They're all illegals.

[Lee]

Oh, yeah, that's right. We covered it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they're a bunch.

[Don]

Imagine that.

[Lee]

No.

[Brennan]

Volusia County Sheriff's office reported that no cell phones were stolen this year.

[Lee]

Imagine that you set the standard and you enforce the law and it deters criminals.

[Brennan]

They made a cool promo video of like, after. Not promo, it was after it. And they showed, like, the, you know, cops engaging with people, and the people were really thankful that they were there, you know, so I'm definitely going to go next year. That, that looks like a good time.

[Lee]

I tell you what's cool about. Gosh. Of the concert I was at last week with, with Marion county. Those guys would all sit by, like, just outside, like the, the front of the stage, like all the cops. Then I don't know how they know what's going on, because it happens in the middle of this massive crowd, and then they get some sort of call like, hey, there's. There's a fight going on. And then like 15 of them, like, ranger file, just make their way in. Pushing everyone and like give it about 20 seconds and they all come storming back out like in the same like single file line with. With some dude all beat up and drunk in the middle of them.

[Brennan]

Oh yeah.

[Lee]

I mean they just go grab. Come right back out.

[Brennan]

If you make the cops go in and get you from a crowd, they're going to go in and get you. Yeah, just get out. And they go like this. Just come on out.

[Don]

Not going to work out. Good for you.

[Lee]

And every time the drunk guy was like what? What I do what I do. Yeah.

[Don]

And the whole crowd like yeah, I didn't do nothing. Yeah.

[Lee]

They just stormed him after you for no reason. And the whole crowd pointed you out for no reason. Okay, buddy.

[Brennan]

Oh, we do need to get the. I read the the first super chats from Iceman. 20 bucks. The boys at Las Vegas Metro need a huge shout out today. Hopefully you guys break down that video.

[Don]

We will imagine that. Yeah.

[Brennan]

Got to find that video on YouTube and then we will. It's not much of a video because he. It is a video but you don't see the actual shooting most of it. I haven't found an unedited one.

[Lee]

I. I just saw one. I might have sent it. No, I don't know if I did send because I think I'd sent you that video several times. I finally saw the video of him taking those shots.

[Brennan]

Oh, you did not the non.

[Lee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brennan]

Because all the ones I said stopped right there.

[Lee]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Just today. Oh. Flamingo tactical bought us pizza tonight.

[Brennan]

That was him.

[Lee]

Yeah. Thank you. Jaime. Jaime Pino went out to his. His range event. He raised several thousand dollars for pizza for. For a non profit. Bleeding Blue I believe is the. The name of the non profit that he was out there raising money for.

[Brennan]

Justin. Five bucks last time watching Thursday night live from the ambo station. Starting a new job after 18 years in EMS on the second putting my new degree to work. Wish me luck.

[Don]

Awesome.

[Brennan]

Man. You pretty close to retirement. Gotta be second career. Yeah.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So that Las Vegas video is it.

[Brennan]

It's a gym shooter.

[Drew]

Gym before rifle jams and cops shoot him dead.

[Brennan]

Yeah, probably.

[Drew]

Okay. I got. I got a video on that.

[Brennan]

But we got our first request heroed out. Kyle says outro song. Drake in my feelings Drake in my feelings heroed out.

[Lee]

Is that what you're doing to me?

[Brennan]

In my feelings 20 bucks. I don't know if I've ever heard that song. Magnasty. What's your opinion on best caliber for concealed carry? Love you is no Homo. You can talk in the mic and you can put the headset on.9 millimeter.

[Lee]

It is scientifically proven to be the most lethal pistol round. Don't. There's plenty. There's nothing else you need. Nine millimeter.

[Brennan]

Yeah, yeah, I think. 48.

[Lee]

That's right. I say it all the time. Round placement trumps Trump's caliber. Yeah. I don't care if you. I don't care if you got a.22. You put the round in the right place, they're going down.

[Don]

Look, you shoot them in a dominant.

[Lee]

Eye, they can't even name. Yeah. I tell you, I've always hated that. That redneck mentality of, oh, I gotta have a.45 stopping power. A 9 millimeter is more lethal than a.45. And you carry half the rounds like, there's nothing logical.

[Don]

And it's more controllable.

[Lee]

That's right. And it's more controllable, like. Yeah, it's more.

[Brennan]

Is 9 millimeter really more lethal?

[Lee]

It absolutely is.

[Brennan]

Oh, I didn't know it.

[Don]

Absolutely.

[Brennan]

I thought you were just.

[Don]

Yeah. And even across the board, all the, you know, all the primary calibers with modern defensive and tactical bullets and design, the. The differences are so negligible from.49 millimeter, 45, and all that, that, you know, you look at controllability and capacity.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

And if all bullets are. If all pistol bullets are the same, then pick the one that shoots for sure. You know, most manageable.

[Lee]

I've. I've seen a leather belt stop a 40 mil. A.40 cal round.

[Brennan]

A leather belt like a son of a. Yeah.

[Lee]

He wasn't happy.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

I'm sure it hurts, though. Do you want to give a brief rundown on Don just because.

[Lee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me give you.

[Don]

Getting the rundown.

[Lee]

Yeah. The. The old rundown we had. We had Don on. Well, not because I know him, because his accolades stand for itself, but it was important for me, selfishly to have it on. Have him on. Because Don Edwards is one of the first Green Berets I ever met when arriving to group, and only to find out he's a. He's a Ranger that jumped into Panama, got a CIB there, got his second, got a star, a second award. CIB in combat, served in Afghanistan. We were in Iraq together on the same deployment during the surge. I've known Don for a long time, and ever since retiring, we just start running into each other all the time.

[Don]

Everywhere but home.

[Lee]

Everywhere but home.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Don]

Close to each other.

[Lee]

Yeah. So. So ask Don to come. Come on. And. And really kind of dig into the, the Panama, you know, side of his story, which ironically enough is like probably the shortest amount of combat. But it's just a really historic. You were just lucky enough to be in the. The right place at the right time.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

And to be get, you know, get on a historical mission.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I've got Justin Gendhart. Five bucks has no retirement, unfortunately. First four in the army as a medic and the rest is a paid member of a rescue squad in the county, not municipal.

[Lee]

What's that mean? Not a city. Okay.

[Brennan]

Be like a Seminole county versus Longwood pd.

[Lee]

So it's just. He's just being redundant by saying county, not municipal.

[Drew]

It sounds like there's some resentment. There's some there.

[Brennan]

There's definitely competition.

[Drew]

That's an iceberg.

[Lee]

Versus blue.

[Don]

Yeah, yeah, I got it.

[Brennan]

The super troopers.

[Drew]

Like there's something underneath that.

[Lee]

Well, not that.

[Drew]

Not that city next to me.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

I've never felt the need to go though. I would say like I was in the army, not the Navy. I just. Just by saying I'm in the army and you kind of know.

[Drew]

But it sounds like something you'd say.

[Brennan]

Is Navy suck still a promo code?

[Lee]

Might be. Oh, gosh.

[Brennan]

Want to do a. Well, let's do the Vegas shooting actually, while it's fresh in our minds. All right, so this guy, I guess was an active shooter in a gym. Did he kill anybody?

[Don]

Yes.

[Brennan]

Oh.

[Lee]

Believe he's an active shooter. And then ran into a gym for.

[Don]

I thought that he shot somebody in the gym.

[Lee]

Did he? Okay. Shot someone in the gym.

[Brennan]

Use your microphone. No, I'm just kidding.

[Don]

And the only reason he left was because apparently his gun had a jam. Otherwise he would have continued shooting in the gym. Didn't know how to clear my function was.

[Lee]

Wasn't a Lion Arms gun, was it?

[Don]

Nope.

[Lee]

No.

[Don]

Should have taken a green line class not. Good thing he didn't. It'd be a lot better.

[Lee]

Be a lot cooler if you did.

[Drew]

All right, here we go. Try this.

[Brennan]

We're working with the new stuff, everybody.

[Drew]

Inside Edition Body cam video shows the.

[Lee]

Moment a suspect was shot by police.

[Drew]

After investigators say he killed one person and shot several others at a gym in Las Vegas.

[Lee]

What color gun was that?

[Brennan]

It was a black.

[Lee]

Okay. And you're pretty certain it was. Was he by himself? Yes, I think there's.

[Brennan]

Hello?

[Lee]

Can you hear. Hello? Hello?

[Drew]

Englander. The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police say 34 year old Daniel Ortega entered the Las Vegas Athletic Club on the afternoon of May 16th with their rifle.

[Lee]

They say he had a brief verbal.

[Drew]

Exchange with the person at the front.

[Brennan]

Desk before he started firing on homeboy. Just walked by a guy with a rifle and didn't bat an eye.

[Drew]

Well, he turns around right there.

[Lee]

Yeah, he didn't walk.

[Don]

What I'm not sure is didn't walk any faster. I think he might be the guy that did call 91 1, but I'm not sure.

[Drew]

Oh, he was staying cool.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

I haven't been able to figure out.

[Lee]

Yeah, I don't know. It's easy to stay cool when you're not aware of what's going on.

[Brennan]

That's what I'm saying. Like, that's today's society. People walk around, get hit by cars.

[Drew]

Maybe a lot of guys play airsoft in that neighborhood. I don't know.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Drew]

On staff members, one person was killed.

[Brennan]

And three others were hit.

[Drew]

But police say the shots stopped because the suspect's weapon malfunctioned. By that time, police had responded to the scene. Investigators say Ortega was taken to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead. At this time, they say they don't.

[Lee]

Know what his motive was, but they. Yeah, that's. Even though it's kind of moving at a.45, he's moving that.

[Don]

Okay.

[Lee]

And even at close range, that is still a tough shot to hit and.

[Brennan]

To make that decision. Like, that's the target and he's moving like that. Kudos to that.

[Lee]

Oh, yeah, you can tell that. So on other videos I've watched, there's the other police officer that he's talking to, and you can see that he moves his eyes away from the door to the left to talk to the police officer to his right. And whoever the other cop was is, like, screaming commands. And you can tell he's. He's elevated. And the guy that took the shots, all of his. All of his commentary was calm, cool, and collectively. Yep, I got it. Yep, I see him right there. Yep, he's in there right now. Just. Just as calm as I. As I was. And then when he runs, you can tell how he gets long on the gun and gets into a real st. Even though it's really quick, gets into a really good, stable shooting platform. And because he got long on the gun, that helped him with recoil management. And he was able to put the second and third round where he wanted it. Had he done one of those things where people do. And it drives me crazy, where they hold, like, the magazine. Well, yeah, the recoil would have jumped up on him, and he probably would not. He probably would have missed the second shot or just taking them too long to get back on.

[Don]

Yeah, it would not have been another video that I saw was I'm assuming another body cams because it was of him shooting and yeah, his, I mean somebody will probably figure out what his splits were. But yeah, there was, I mean he shot quick and there was, there was hardly any recoil or hardly any muzzle rise. Yeah, he had solid control on that gun. One, one thing that somebody mentioned to me was that it looked like he started shooting before he was all up on target. But I think when you look from his perspective, that gun was up. I'm sure he saw what he needed to see.

[Lee]

I believe he did.

[Don]

Um, you know, I'm. Look, you know, I don't know the guy but you know, just by his, his body language and all that, like you said, he, you know, it's a. He was on the dot and, and, and on that trigger. Nice and good. Yep, nice and good.

[Lee]

It's, it's a safe assumption that that guy goes to the range outside of department time and, and invests into, into himself.

[Brennan]

I just.

[Lee]

And it played out for.

[Brennan]

Yeah, you were right. That's why you do he, that, that calmness, man, that. I don't care who you are, man. Cops. He was probably sipping a coffee or watching Netflix or something. Doing something that doesn't require your heart rate to be up. And then you get a call like that and you have to get right in the game and make a decision like that. Like.

[Lee]

Yeah, I think it's a great point. Like that's the, the uniqueness of, of a cops life. Me and Don, like when we go to target, like we're ready for it. Even, even when your wheels up to Panama in 18 hours.

[Don]

Yeah, but yeah, you're, you're flying all night.

[Lee]

That's right. You're ready for it. You're right. That dude's day probably went from sipping coffee to nothing to oh shit, we gotta go. Like right now. Speed at which they move is much higher in the military.

[Don]

That's even a stark difference between.

[Lee]

A.

[Don]

Patrol cop or someone like that and a SWAT dude. You know, because when you, you know, SWAT teams responding to something or, or planning something, it's more like, you know, a special ops hit.

[Lee]

Right. They still got to get together, they still get a mission brief. They're still on the move. It may be quick, but they get.

[Don]

Something straight up response. And like you said, he, you know, he has a warm Starbucks in the cup holder.

[Brennan]

Oh yeah. I said all the time. Cop patrol cops are always reacting in nature, everything they do is reactive. SWAT is pre planned like a, you know, the. The. The detective bureau. Whichever one it is has to submit a search warrant packet to the SWAT chain of command to decide if SWAT's going to hit it or not. Yeah, they use their expertise to go. This is. Looks like it's our mission. We'll take it. No, and I mean everything. They go and they watch the body worn camera footages from that house as far back as they can go so they can get a layout of the home. They look at all the cases. Every call we've ever went to at that house. They do right before. I don't want to. I don't want to talk anymore, but.

[Don]

Yeah, but there's a. There's a difference. And when you know that's. That's not what you do.

[Brennan]

He's like Krispy Kreme on his finger, dude.

[Don]

Maybe.

[Lee]

Well, and at least he had, who knows, maybe several minutes between, you know, taking that shot and at least being alert, which is super quick. But hey, cops all over this country have been sitting in their police car doing nothing to a fight for their life within a millisecond. Yeah, you know, it's just. It's just a crazy world which they live in where they have to be able to turn a switch that fast at any moment.

[Don]

And we got video footage, body cam of the dude who did exactly that.

[Drew]

Jono says White House road. Tyler Childers watching from your favorite liberal state, Whidby Island, Washington. Never heard.

[Brennan]

Wait, was that a White House road? Tyler Chowders.

[Don]

Is that.

[Lee]

Oh yeah, that's a song.

[Drew]

That's a song.

[Lee]

Yeah. Oh, he. He snuck in a song request and a comment and I like it. You got a twofer. Yeah, I'm not even mad about that.

[Brennan]

$20 for.

[Lee]

It worked. It worked.

[Drew]

All right. Justin Ginhart back in. He's the medic. He says not municipal in Pennsylvania means it's a private, not for profit organization.

[Lee]

All right, yeah, that makes sense.

[Drew]

But down here you say counties.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Volley run, but voluntarily voluntary run, but paid employees, which means no pension etc, no hate toward the city crew.

[Lee]

Okay, all right, well, thanks for jumping back on and explaining that. I learned something.

[Drew]

Sea bass GT whiskey bent hell bout Hank Jr. So I guess bound.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, is it hellbound. Okay. Hank Jr. So another song. Is that another song request?

[Brennan]

We still. They got to beat $20 for.

[Lee]

Yeah, someone's gonna have to join them for to make that happen.

[Drew]

Add it up, buddies. Also, Brent, you ever work with the nuclear security guys seeing picks A fifth group guys training at an abandoned nuclear power plant in Bama. Roll Tide.

[Lee]

No, I haven't. And I know. I know who you're talking about, and I'm sure our Newt guys at work do, but as an assaulter, I didn't. And go Gators. Send it right back.

[Drew]

Sack full of nades. Back again. 50 bucks Thursday is for the boys sitting on the back porch smoking a nasty free cigar. But hey, free cigars are always my favorite cigars. Brent about to head out for a little pop. Do y' all ship cigars overseas?

[Lee]

No. Unless it's an apo. We don't because they have it goes back to that whole like terrafor like, oh, why would Trump do this? Because we can't ship cigars anywhere without getting our asses handed to us because of tariffs on other countries. So because of other countries we can't unless. Until Don wins that fight and opens up and then opens up opportunities for business owners in America now.

[Don]

But if he's got a relative or a friend who will ship them to him, there's always ways around it.

[Lee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that. That would work. Sure would.

[Drew]

Herod out official drake in my feelings. 9.99.

[Brennan]

Oh, he just added 10 bucks to it.

[Lee]

He really wants that. That will definitely be a first Drake outro song if. If this one.

[Drew]

If this one gets by Nolan Yaram remco thoughts on JTF2 sniper record shot I heard. I don't know if true, but the tripod they used was from the Americans. I might be wrong.

[Lee]

I'm very aware of the shot they use, the McMillan 50 cal. But I don't. I don't know a lot of the details of that story, but I haven't heard anyone discounting the story or saying that it wasn't true. Which, which in the special ops community is. Is. Is. Is at least a signal that it's.

[Don]

Probably legit because everybody's saying it's bullshit.

[Lee]

That's right.

[Drew]

See Alex, 50 bucks. Thanks for the love, man. Brent, I think there's a former Delta operator working with Forwards observations group. What do you think of their training? Any opinion? Are they legit?

[Lee]

The only thing I really know about them is their like social media and online presence, which they do a good job of. I don't really know what else they do besides make cool shirts and cool videos. So I could not tell you.

[Drew]

Bretton Taylor, would you rather fight. Would you rather fight a tiger shark in an aquarium or a silverback in an octagon? No weapons.

[Brennan]

Love the lives guys what was the first one?

[Drew]

Tiger shark in an aquarium?

[Brennan]

No, definitely not a tiger shark, but.

[Lee]

Definitely not a silverback. You ain't winning that one either.

[Don]

No weapons.

[Lee]

We were in a lose, lose situation.

[Brennan]

What about silverback in an aquarium? And a tiger.

[Lee]

The tiger in the octagon? Yes. Oh, I don't know if.

[Don]

Which one's gonna get it over.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Which one's gonna kill me quickest?

[Don]

Yeah, exactly.

[Lee]

I really think the. Because its teeth are so razor sharp, like, it doesn't hurt, you know?

[Don]

I mean, if you're gonna die, make it quick.

[Lee]

Getting bludgeoned over and over by a silverback probably isn't pleasant.

[Don]

No. And then what if. What if he decides to do other things to you before you're dead?

[Lee]

Like what, Don?

[Don]

Like, like, pull your finger.

[Brennan]

Sexual things.

[Don]

See, I wasn't going there. Like, what if he decides to pull your arms off? Okay.

[Lee]

Oh, okay.

[Don]

Or what if he does think you're cute?

[Lee]

Yeah, I. I'm going. I'm going, Shark. I am. That's crazy. And you know what's crazier? I think, don't get me wrong, I don't sound like I. I really think. But I think I got a chance with a shark if you know it's coming.

[Don]

Oh, that's because you're like a dive guy and you got a shark tattoo. You'd be like, showing me a shark tattoo on your shrimp stamp.

[Lee]

Turn around. Like, I got a shark tattoo.

[Don]

Hammerhead and.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Stamp or some like that. You and Sean.

[Lee]

I don't know.

[Don]

I gotta be like, hey, look, we're brothers.

[Lee]

Going, shark cag.

[Drew]

Daddy ragged that shark like a dolphin.

[Brennan]

Why are you gonna say it all gay like that? He'll tear his tane again.

[Drew]

Justin Gendhart back in again. Two bucks. Go Gators. My new alma mater.

[Lee]

Oh, nice.

[Drew]

All right. Very cool. Even though we said roll tight earlier.

[Lee]

All right.

[Drew]

But hey, go, Gators.

[Lee]

Yeah, we'll do Justin. Take a new one.

[Drew]

All right.

[Lee]

You're gonna want to be a gator this year.

[Brennan]

Yeah, buddy.

[Drew]

Jim Lewis. 999. Any word from T.K. is he ready to apologize for his stolen valor? Never gonna apologize.

[Lee]

He's. No, he's never gonna apologize. He's been given the opportunity, and a airtight case has been presented against them. So if he hasn't apologized now, he ain't going to. But there will be a little bit more pressure because there may or may not be a pretty big news article coming out about that whole situation that I've been in talks with, and this guy has been doing homework for months. And so if that happens, I think it will. Wink, wink. That'll just be another. Just more pressure for him to do what he should have done this whole time.

[Drew]

All right.

[Don]

Honest. I mean, just be honest. When the truth is cool enough, why do you have to.

[Lee]

Yeah, it's not a not. It's not a big ask. Just be honest.

[Drew]

Speaking of the truth, Salvador wants to know from Don. How would you describe the culture of the Ranger and Special Forces?

[Don]

Oh, wow.

[Drew]

An outro song request. Family tradition.

[Lee]

50 bucks my Hank Williams Jr. That'd be a good one.

[Don]

Good song, by the way. Good one. Yeah, man. There's a lot of similarities.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Don]

Because there's a lot of guys, a lot of former Rangers in sf, but I would definitely say how many.

[Lee]

How many former SF guys are in range about.

[Don]

Yeah, exactly. That's kind of where I'm going with this. Like, let me put it this way. If I put you in. In a room full of, like, bonafide badass dudes. Right. And you asked, started asking around, like, so what'd you do when you were in the army or whatever. If they were in the Rangers first, that will be the first thing they say. I was in the Rangers, and then I went to this other place, this other unit, wherever I ended up, you know, graduating from, almost said, you know, so I'd say there's a lot of pride and esprit de corps there.

[Lee]

Yeah. And I love that.

[Don]

Yeah, it's awesome. I joke around. I tell people a lot. It's like the Ranger Regiment is like the Marine Corps of the US army.

[Lee]

Just a little bit.

[Don]

Well, yeah.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

You know, so. So, yeah, I'd say it's so culturally, there's a, you know, it's a younger group of dudes, but they're very, very proficient at what they do. Special Forces is definitely an older man's game. More wiser, you know, different. You know, but it also has different personality types, too.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

And there's a lot of. There is a lot of carryover and crossover because, you know, we do a lot of similar type type things. It's just as an SF guy, you're. You're. You're expected to have more responsibility. I mean.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

You're doing da stuff with an indigenous force that you've had to train.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

And stuff like that.

[Brennan]

Collecting your own intelligence.

[Don]

Oh, yeah. And as we talked about. Plan our own missions.

[Lee]

Yeah. Sorry I got you done the. Here. I didn't say it. On the. On the podcast. But one of the things I found out, I just didn't know to what extent, and I'll tell you exactly what I read, but I don't know again, to what extent this means moving. That guy I talked about, that was a green brain. Vietnam. He was nominated for the Medal of Honor three times, Sergeant Major Howard. Two of them got downgraded. One to a DSC and one to a Silver Star. But so he ends up with all three of the top awards from Vietnam. He ended up going over to Ranger Battalion and helping start Ranger Battalion Post Vietnam. When the. When the Ranger battalion came back online and it said that a lot of senior Special Forces guys were. Were called to come over there and stand up. Ranger Battalion. I just don't know what, you know, how many, like, what that means was just a. The majority, like Green Berets were sent to go.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Or Stand up. Ranger Battalion was just a few, like, really influential ones. But that was unique. I never really thought about that aspect that. That SF actually had. Either way, SF had a role in Standing Up Ranger Engine.

[Don]

When you're recreating a commando unit.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

You get old commandos.

[Lee]

That's right.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Makes sense.

[Drew]

All right, we got Mr. Tech 1911. He says my favorite chem light finally died. Where do I get new batteries?

[Don]

Amazon Prime.

[Lee]

Same day.

[Drew]

I think he was listening to a podcast.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Talked about.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Thanks. Mr. Tech bringing that up. Appreciate it.

[Lee]

Appreciate you.

[Drew]

Brian Walls helping Sea Bass with his request of Whiskey Benton Hellbound.

[Lee]

Oh, all right.

[Drew]

20 bucks added to Whiskey Bent and Hellbound.

[Lee]

This one's gonna turn into a battle.

[Drew]

Plus, I.

[Brennan]

That's at 30. Drake's at 30, and family tradition is at 50.

[Drew]

Plus, I hate Drake.

[Brennan]

Job. Why am I. You need to pass this out to somebody.

[Drew]

Plus, I hate Drake. Really? Enjoy your squad.

[Lee]

Such a Drake that Canuck.

[Drew]

All right. Magnetic master of all that goes.

[Lee]

Pew.

[Drew]

I agree. 9 millimeter. Make sure he's awake. Heard talk about 10 mm replacing 40. Any thought on that? And what do you think of Nosler? ASP 124GR or Green 140? 124 grain.

[Lee]

What are my thoughts on it? I haven't thought about it until you. Until you just asked me that. And so if I haven't, you know, those are specific questions that I wouldn't want to give, you know, opinionated answers without knowing more detail. Don, you got anything? Magnet, do you have anything?

[Brennan]

Mike? Mike, Mike. Mike spent 10,000 hours upgrading the studio. The 10 mil ammo is not like.

[Drew]

Something you just buy off the shelf.

[Lee]

Yeah, I guess it's replacing it.

[Drew]

But again, shot placement.

[Lee]

Shot placement.

[Brennan]

And what's it going to go through too? You got to worry about where the.

[Drew]

Round'S going to go after you shoot it too.

[Lee]

Yeah, it's. It's really going to be hard to unseat the, the 9 millimeter because of the amount, amount of companies that are already set up to make it, the amount that's already out there, the amount of guns that are already being the NATO standard. And it's a NATO standard. Yeah. So it's never going away.

[Don]

But I mean 10 millimeters, a badass round.

[Lee]

It is.

[Don]

It was so badass that they had to tame it down to make it into a 40. Because if you're shooting 10 millimeter pistol, you're definitely shooting in the men's division. And you know, it's definitely devastating because it's high velocity and stuff like that and good diameter, but it just kind of, it never really caught on because it's difficult to control and you know, difficult to make.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Semi automatic pistols that can handle it and without breaking all the time.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

And they already did it. The FBI tried it, they realized it didn't work and then they went back to 40 and then they went to 9 millimeter. Well, 40 was created because of that, you know, and it's just chopped down and it didn't work. And then they also realized you need a very large frame handgun. And if you're trying to get, you know, the. Take the Glock 17 where about 90 of people can work on that. You go to the 10 millimeter with that, even larger than a, you know, Glock 21, you. Yeah, their hands don't fit it. And so now you're limiting your guys even more.

[Lee]

Now you're trying to carry a Glock 40.

[Brennan]

Yeah, that sucks. I have one 40 take a brick in my pants.

[Drew]

All right, already cooking. Hey, from communist England. You guys got a lot of Muslim mayors?

[Lee]

Yeah, more like Islamic England.

[Drew]

Oh my goodness. All right, thoughts on shiv works guys and would you say their stuff is good option for someone's self defense in my. I guess it's country of resonance. Brazilian jiu jitsu, blue belt training, Muay Thai. Good. God bless.

[Don]

Nice.

[Lee]

Well, if you're gonna be in a land of no guns, make sure your hands work. Yeah, yeah. Good, good, good job on you.

[Don]

You guys know Craig Douglas is the guy that started ship works solid training. Probably a lot of the people that are teaching different types of entangled fighting with Guns and knives. He's kind of the father of a lot of that. The modern techniques that people are teaching now and stuff like that. So, yeah, definitely, you know, recommend Craig and Shiv works.

[Drew]

All right. Everyday American says, you guys got to get John Stryker Meyer on. Gotta get the stories from Vietnam from legends like him for sure.

[Lee]

I'll tell you this, especially after we. I mean, we already had Mr. Day on from MACV SOG from that episode. And then, you know, the history of the Green Berets, like, just going over the numbers of the. Of the deaths and casualties in Vietnam kind of lit my fire. Like, we've got to get more Vietnam.

[Brennan]

We're gonna need a wheelchair ramp up in here soon.

[Lee]

Guys.

[Don]

You're gonna do it. You need to do it before those guys aren't able to hear.

[Lee]

Their stories are amazing.

[Brennan]

We. We waited too long for a World War II guy. We did amazing interview you. But it's his. His WI fi was just too bad, and we couldn't salvage the show.

[Don]

But that sucks.

[Brennan]

And it was by himself. He was still. He had. I'm not saying he needed a caretaker, but he had. There was no caretaker. It was just him. And we're trying to, like, troubleshoot problem tech problems on his end, and he can barely hear us, you know, let alone figure out what's going on with his WI fi. So we weren't able to save it, but that sucks.

[Drew]

All right. Alex says Drew forgot. Oh, well, I forgot this guy. Mr. DCT. Five bucks. Thanks, Bud. Alex J. Says Drew forgot to put song request earlier in super chat. Alice in Chains. It ain't like that. Is that the whole song? Alice in Chains. It ain't like that.

[Brennan]

Yeah, Allison changes the artist.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Come on, Drew. Sorry.

[Drew]

I know Alice Cooper. I don't know Alice in Chains. What decade is that?

[Brennan]

One nineties. Man of the box.

[Drew]

Okay, I know that. I would know that.

[Don]

He knows the song, just not the band.

[Drew]

Let's see. Nolan. Nolan's back in. Nolan with Yaramco. All right, can you guys get Dallas Alexander on? He was there for the JTF2 sniper shot. Also did the SRS a while back. Canada Legit censored the video.

[Lee]

Oh, Canada, Canada, Canada. Why you. Why you do that?

[Brennan]

Pretty much Europe over there up there.

[Lee]

Oh, gosh. It. Yeah, they're not free. Yeah, they're not free. Northern Europe is that we're going to refer to them as Northern Europe, and I hate it because just the citizens are great, like, for the most part, which is crazy, because the government. Where do you think they didn't import the government? Where do you think the. Where. Where the government come from? From the citizens. So how can almost every Canadian I run into be such good people and their government such like make that make sense? Well, I don't know. We do the same thing. So I guess. Never mind.

[Don]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lee]

Ruin my own argument. I get it.

[Drew]

Because the other Canadians don't watch this podcast.

[Don]

Because. Because the ones. The ones you meet are the cool ones.

[Drew]

That's right. See, Chandon says, are there any knuckle dagger types in tier one? I guess that's dragger. Knuckle dragger types in tier one units or is everyone super smart?

[Lee]

There are. There are definitely a couple knuckle draggers. But to put it in perspective, even their knuckle draggers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are. They're smart knuckle draggers. They're just. They're just comparatively considered knuckle draggers compared to some of the really smart guys that, that I worked with. But yeah, we. We would still consider them knuckle draggers.

[Drew]

Andrew, 26, says, what do you all think about the Christopher Taylor incident in Austin, Texas? The DA convicted him of deadly conduct. Even though it was a lawful shoot. It didn't get a lot of coverage.

[Lee]

I think I just looked this one up. Not too long ago. I came across my radar.

[Drew]

I'll try to find it.

[Lee]

Yep, I got you.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Brennan]

Hey, and I've never announced this on the live, but if you guys are interested in anti hero podcast T shirts, we have them on the Counterculture Inc. Threads.com. we have the T shirts and we got anti hero stickers, so figured I'd let some people know. Place to go get it.

[Don]

Well, Brent's Googling.

[Brennan]

Yeah, let's see.

[Drew]

See? Oop. I'm all over the place here. Everyday American. What do you guys. What do you guys. EDC when it comes to a gun, medical, spare mag, things like that. What is edc?

[Don]

Everyday carry.

[Drew]

Everyday carry.

[Lee]

Come on, you're better than that by now.

[Drew]

Yeah, and people love the crap fact. I don't know this stuff.

[Brennan]

Electronic dance concert.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

No, no.

[Lee]

Something that's not gonna grave.

[Brennan]

You're not gonna get me.

[Don]

Yes. Glock 19 with an aim point acro and a surefire x300.

[Lee]

He's right.

[Brennan]

He says something that puts bullets down range for me.

[Don]

Yeah, usually, sometimes, not always as much as I should. A spare mag, some sort of pocket knife. And when I'm really responsible, an ankle.

[Brennan]

Med kit and a compass I think.

[Lee]

I put in there. What Was the name of that. Of that officer? They asked. They asked about Christopher Taylor. Okay.

[Drew]

Austin, Texas. All right. Seabass GT says whiskey bent hell for 9.99. Whiskey bent hell.

[Brennan]

All right. We're at 40 bucks for that one. That's catching. Family tradition.

[Don]

They're both Hank Jr songs.

[Brennan]

Yeah, that's true.

[Drew]

Can't go wrong with the other one.

[Brennan]

You know what? We might play both. You never know.

[Drew]

Heck yes. Bunt. What's your feels on Camp Dawson? I did a 12 in engineer reclass school up there. Place is beautiful.

[Lee]

Oh, man, the place is beautiful. Camp Dawson is in West Virginia. It's a national guard base, but it's nestled right in the middle of all the mountains and in rural, rural West Virginia. Appalachian trail. Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. Almost makes walking around that place for weeks on end with a backpack fun. But it's not.

[Drew]

Tony Riggs. Brent, did you know Major Aaron Roof from the unit? He was my old LRS commander.

[Lee]

No, I didn't. And a lot of the officers, they. They. They come and go. They come and go so fast. And. And the. The squadrons are already, so was compartmentalized. The chance of me knowing officers, fairly slim.

[Drew]

All right, here we go. Justin Carling, 100 bucks for Eddie Murphy. Party all the time, sung by Tyler.

[Lee]

Oh, sung by Tyler.

[Drew]

Sung by Tyler.

[Lee]

100 bucks.

[Drew]

Okay. Yeah, just because the clips will be awesome. Brett got the 8.6 blackout down to a 10 milliliter.

[Lee]

10 mil? Nope.

[Drew]

10 mil hole. 10 mil?

[Lee]

Yeah, sure.

[Drew]

Was that a mill worker? Yeah, 300 at meters and can hit with inside 10 inches area. Is this acceptable in your opinion? Paul Rudd, behind the camera. Love you. Do.

[Lee]

I. I'm gonna ask a stupid question because I feel just by the ballistics and the answer to this, but I'm assuming this is a supersonic round, but you're saying it's a blackout, so.

[Don]

Yeah, it's a newer 86 blackout. I don't know it ton about it, but it's.

[Lee]

But it's what we're talking. But I'm. There's. I got two questions. One, I want to make sure it's supersonic, and two, what's your barrel length? So just send like a cheap chat so we can read those. Those two.

[Drew]

All right, Jonathan Moore, you are going to have to pull my FN510.

[Brennan]

Out.

[Drew]

Of my cold dead hands and big bear country up here in Idaho if I happen to catch a grizzly to the face.

[Lee]

All right, does anyone know exactly what the FN510 is?

[Don]

I believe it's a 10 millimeter. 10 millimeter pistol? Yeah.

[Lee]

Okay. I'll give you that.

[Brennan]

So.

[Lee]

Yeah, okay.

[Don]

Oh, dude.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Yeah. If you're gonna carry a semi auto.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Make it a 10 millimeter.

[Lee]

Yeah, it's just making sure it went to 45. Like. Well, it doesn't matter. Ballistics are ballistics. But if it's a 10 millimeter, I'll give you that one.

[Don]

It's gonna have more velocity to penetrate because it has.

[Lee]

It has size and velocity. During the day, the 45 only has size, but you need velocity with that size to make it lethal. I assumed it was me, actually.

[Drew]

I'm just glad it wouldn't be this.

[Brennan]

Downers over there. Monsters and beer.

[Don]

Yes.

[Brennan]

Oh, man.

[Lee]

So the. So this is where I heard about that. This is the Christopher Taylor incident. The Austin police officer was convicted for an on duty. On duty shooting. And it was. It was. It was shooting with a man with his. With a history of mental illness. And that's. And that's what. That's what jumped out to me. That was different about that case. And I feel like I have seen the video on social media about that, but. So I'm trying to find out a little bit more about it, but there. But that's. That's what it has to do with a police officer that shot someone with a history of mental illness. But I got to find out what the mentally ill person did to. To cause it. We'll find out.

[Drew]

Everyday American for five bucks says. Are we sure Drew knows how to read? I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes I'm not sure. Some of these folks. Not a text made you say anything.

[Brennan]

Against your will yet. And I hate that.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, they will now. Thanks, Tyler.

[Brennan]

Would you rather see a tree glow or a negro.

[Lee]

With a K?

[Brennan]

Negro with a K. N E E gro.

[Drew]

I want to see a tree glow. How to get that? Don't they have those like, glow in the dark worms or something that. That get all over a tree and it glows?

[Brennan]

I don't know.

[Drew]

I think it's down in South America.

[Brennan]

Dream that.

[Drew]

No, I didn't. I didn't. There's like.

[Don]

It's a hiahuasca tree.

[Drew]

Maybe it was avatar. All right, Mr. Dct says, how many grenades do you guys every day carry in your sheepdog response? Fanny pack asking for a friend.

[Don]

All of them.

[Lee]

I refuse, no offense, to carry a fanny pack around. I just. I just. Do you got a fanny pack? And they've. And they've Made them cooler. They have. They've made them cooler. Hold on, hold on. I got. Now I got to give caveat to that. Sometimes when I'm overseas because I have to carry a passport and a bunch of different currency, I. That's the one time I. I have. I've worn a fanny pack. But in the United States, I just can't. I can't do it.

[Brennan]

Someone like you, I'd be like, so there's a gun in there?

[Lee]

Yeah, I don't. The.

[Drew]

I just rather be. Cigars lighter in a cup.

[Lee]

All right, we've got a gun in there. It's like. I don't. I don't know if it completely cancels out, but it's not as gay. Take that for what it is. What's that?

[Drew]

Joe Rogan carries one every day.

[Lee]

Joe Rogan does. Okay, well, he's like five foot six. Okay. Like, he doesn't. He doesn't. He's not. He's. He's. He's living on. On short king standards, and short kings can do what they want. It's safer for my Sig, Brent, so I don't shoot my jump, because safer for my Sig, so I don't shoot my junk.

[Don]

Well, not a bad reason, I guess.

[Lee]

This is not a bad reason. That's right. You have a reason. They got. What do you. You don't. Oh, we need to give him a mic. Why do we. Why do we refuse? Oh, he has a mic. Okay.

[Don]

He's got one. He just doesn't use it.

[Brennan]

I love it, Brent. You even got me.

[Don]

There's even a stand. He could put it on a stand.

[Drew]

And put it right there.

[Lee]

He's got all. He's got all sorts of options. Refuses to use them.

[Brennan]

All right. It's my fault.

[Lee]

I was supposed to be holding it for him.

[Don]

Oh, you're probably.

[Lee]

All right.

[Drew]

Well played, Lee. All right, Salvador. Says, Don and Brent, what interesting, surprising jobs your fellow teammates had while you were in third and 20th SFGA group? I don't know. 18. The outro song Family Tradition by Hank Jr. 50 bucks.

[Brennan]

50 bucks.

[Lee]

Family tradition.

[Don]

Family tradition.

[Brennan]

That's at 100.

[Lee]

Oh, let me see. Don. I know. I know. You got. You got some. Probably some. Some better ones or interesting or surprising jobs the fellow teammates had in National Guard, sf.

[Don]

I mean, like, regular jobs outside.

[Lee]

So obviously, a lot of them had some sort of federal jobs because it's easier to have a federal job or.

[Don]

Law enforcement, stuff like that.

[Lee]

Atf, firefighters. I'm sure we can. I'm sure there Is.

[Drew]

I know one hillbilly that used to throw hay bales. He was in Special Forces. Brent.

[Lee]

No. When I got my Green Beret, dad had sold the business.

[Drew]

Oh, really?

[Lee]

Yeah, yeah, he sold the business while I was in the Q course.

[Don]

It was like a dude that was like a traveling tool salesman.

[Lee]

Really?

[Don]

Yeah, it's like. It was like hilty.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Tools or whatever that he always drove his, like, work truck to drill, you know?

[Lee]

You know, Sean is. Is a. Is a pretty good one as far as when he was flying in the drill from California. When he was he doing.

[Don]

He was.

[Lee]

When he was on the set of We Were a Soldier. Yeah. Running down the. The movie life.

[Brennan]

Yes.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Sean's a cool dude.

[Brennan]

He was one of my favorites.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Pretty. All right.

[Lee]

Some. Some of my favorite ones, though, because I got a little jealous of that. Were going to the University of Florida as students while there.

[Don]

Which.

[Lee]

Did you do that as well? A little bit, yeah.

[Don]

It's full time.

[Lee]

Kadota. I mean, some guys were literally.

[Don]

Yeah. A lot of guys were full time students.

[Lee]

Full time students.

[Don]

Like, they would. We called it guard bumming back then.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Right. And just go and, you know. Well, before the war was just deployments here and there. You know, spend their summers, you know, on orders.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

And stuff like that. And they bank up the money for the rest of the year.

[Lee]

And one that I knew was a. Was a bouncer at a bar, and then he was doing like, amateur MMA stuff, beating up people in the ring and then. Then coming to drill. He was. He was a really unique guy, anyway. Yeah. But I'm sure there's some nerdy ones I'll think of here in a second. I was like, oh, yeah. What?

[Don]

I mean, Will Cotton was like a computer programmer dude.

[Lee]

There you go.

[Don]

Super smart.

[Lee]

Yeah. That doesn't surprise me at all about Will.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Rudy Botello says you rang. Lol. What? You rang?

[Lee]

Okay, I didn't call him.

[Drew]

All right. Somebody butt called my boy Rudy.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right, we'll figure it out later. Nolan Yoremco back in again. Dallas Alexander was on the JTF2 sniper team. Then gets kicked out for not taking the COVID vaccine. Now he makes great songs and he's got a great first name for being country singer.

[Don]

Yeah, perfect, Dallas. I mean, what else are you going to be?

[Drew]

The Big D. The Big D. All right, already cooking back in. Keep your shirt on. Breni. You are not allowed to say anything about certain religions in uk. Well, he is. He lives in America.

[Don]

Yeah, we can say whatever you Want.

[Drew]

Now if you're, you're in UK, you might not be able to.

[Brennan]

To.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Also, would you rather fight a 10 for 10 minutes round with Prime Mike Tyson or carry pride flag on parade? Frontline Tyler Singh.

[Lee]

Oh, one hurts my pride to its core and the other one hurts my soul to its core.

[Brennan]

10 minutes. If you get knocked out within the first 10 seconds, do you just have to stay there for 10 minutes and just keep getting knocked out? That's.

[Lee]

That's a good follow up question. I'm going to assume if you get knocked out, it's over. Yeah, that's just an assumption since I didn't go detail. Yeah. I'm, I'm not carrying a pride flag, so I guess, I guess I'm gonna hope I can run around enough. Yeah.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

I can avoid it.

[Lee]

Yeah. Oddly enough, I'm going. I never thought I'd say this. I'm. I'm going to go to the ring. I'd rather go to a ring with Mike Dyson.

[Drew]

Wow, that's the best. All right, Donnie Gbert, 20 bucks. Is anyone offering a Coalition asset training course? I think there's this one guy.

[Lee]

Oh, we should, we should do some sort of like funny video about a training course called the Coalition Assets.

[Brennan]

We should make it a serious.

[Don]

Actually go to greenlinetactical.com and there'll be one there.

[Brennan]

We should do a serious video.

[Don]

You probably can't afford it.

[Brennan]

Yeah, satirical.

[Lee]

Satirical. Yeah, yeah, just, just like, oh, gosh, how am I forgetting his name? Went on the podcast. Black guy. There's the funny videos. The global king picks me. Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we need to bring him in for, for this.

[Brennan]

That's. That's what we bring him back for.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

It's worth a hotel and plane trips for sure.

[Lee]

For sure.

[Drew]

Jared Kalish, 50 bucks. Brent, your vehicle commander from Sirius says hello. Love the show and what you guys are doing. Keep up the good work. Hashtag, best support guy ever.

[Lee]

Jared. Jared Kalish, vehicle commander. Okay, so. Oh my gosh. When we used to have all these, like. Yeah. When I was in Syria, it was really a lot like being a Green Beret more than it was being the Delta Force. Like, you know, we were pushing partner forces, you know, the Kurds against them. And we had our base and, and so way too small of a team. So everyone had to, everyone had a job. And so to make all these like, benign jobs seem more, more cool, I called them all commanders. So I had like a gym commander who was in. He was in charge of the gym. And to keep the gym clean and keep the. The board of Manliness always up to date. I had a vehicle commander because we had vehicles. We had a ton of vehicles. It's like, hey, the vehicles, they're always parked in the wrong place. They're always parked where they shouldn't be. No one can ever find the keys to the vehicles. And so I would sign a. A vehicle commander. And so we'd have all these different positions, but I'd put commander at the end of it.

[Brennan]

Makes it cool to make him see.

[Lee]

Yeah, I actually had a really good time that. That whole crew got along really well, which made it even. Even more fun.

[Drew]

All right. Oh, fun fact. Vanessa is in communication with Dallas Alexander. He actually was going to be a performer for us at Shell Shock. Very polite man. Just trying to land a date for scheduling.

[Brennan]

Nice.

[Lee]

Hell, yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Vanessa.

[Drew]

All right. John, Todd, guys.

[Lee]

Man with two first names.

[Drew]

Space Force now has a special operations force. Would they do hostage rescue on the space station or the moon? I bet Brent didn't train for that in Delta. Imagine doing HR in a zero gravity environment.

[Lee]

I gotta look into this.

[Don]

Yeah, that looks. Actually sounds fun.

[Lee]

I. I hope that's not true. I hope he's joking.

[Drew]

Would they do Hustler?

[Don]

Would this be like the mobile station or the moon?

[Lee]

So you know the army. Army guys are called soldiers, Mariner, marines, all that. Do you know what the Space Force calls themselves?

[Don]

No.

[Brennan]

No.

[Lee]

Anyone? What's that? Space cadets. It'd be just as good. You want to know what Space Force calls their. Their troops? Guardians.

[Don]

Oh, boy.

[Lee]

Guardians. Come here, Guardian.

[Brennan]

Come here, Guardian.

[Drew]

What are you guarding your hands out of your pockets.

[Brennan]

Guardian.

[Lee]

There's no. And it's not. And their motto is like Guardians. It's not of the final frontier, of. Of the. Of the highest frontier or something like that. But their tagline is just everything about it I hate.

[Don]

Bro, you can't make this up.

[Lee]

Yeah, I know. Everything about it I hate and you know. You know, and I bet most people in the Space Force hate it too. You know, I mean, they're like, hey, I didn't come up with this. Don't. Don't. Don't label me with that.

[Don]

Yeah, they might think it's cool. That's why they're in the Space Force.

[Lee]

What do you got?

[Don]

The official motto is Guardians of the High Frontier.

[Lee]

Of the High Frontier. I was close of the Guardians of the High Frontier.

[Don]

They can't steer the Coast Guard. They can't steal that Coast Guard movie, man.

[Brennan]

That was a good. Come on.

[Lee]

That. The Guardian. Oh, that was a good movie that you. When we talk about military movies at that time the coast guard was, was in the dod. I'm tell you, the Garden was a good military.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Had Kevin Costner and Ashton Kutcher. Ashton Kutcher.

[Brennan]

He goes, he goes, how many? Because Ash was all cocky. One. He said eight and he goes, only eight. He goes, eight's the one I couldn't save.

[Lee]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that, that was a good movie. Yeah.

[Drew]

Let's see. Papperman 38.

[Brennan]

That's where I learned muscle doesn't muscle sinks.

[Drew]

Pepperman 38. 50 bucks. Thanks, brother. Infectious gelging, joking, Broke up in the wrong hood. I don't know what that. I guess it's a song. Maybe for 50 bucks he's putting that in. I don't know.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

She have to Google that. Thankfully, family tradition is beating it.

[Drew]

Infectious joking. Wrote up singing is winning.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Oh, there's more.

[Drew]

I want Bort to.

[Lee]

I'm listening.

[Drew]

Resent that song. Paul Rudd. Can you say retard too, please? I, I believe I say it.

[Lee]

That's right.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Lee]

If you put, if you put the emphasis on the wrong syllable, no one can get mad.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's a retard all right. Justin Carling. 10 more for party all the time. Kick Tyler's weekend off, Right.

[Lee]

Oh, man.

[Drew]

Brent. It's a 350 grain expanding projectile. Opens to 1 1/2 inch subsonic, 12 inch barrel. Paul Rudd, thanks for making me sound smart.

[Lee]

Hell yeah. Then, then that is, then what you got going on there is absolutely worth keeping. You got a, you got a good gun at subsonic 300 meter and a 10 inch grouping.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Almost unheard of. I mean, I'm not. I mean it's, it's, it's possible, but.

[Don]

There'S a lot of good hype around that 86 blackout.

[Lee]

Yeah, well, so when it comes. I think we talked about this before. The problem with, with grouping accuracy, you know, in subsonic rounds is, you know, you need speed and you need the, the rifling, you know, and, and the spin to stabilize. To stabilize, you know, when you're throwing out a subsonic round and even though it'll have a spin to it, it's almost thrown out. Kind of like a knuckleball, you know, I mean, so, you know, the wind pushes it easily. It doesn't maintain like this, like the, a, a predictable flight path the same way a supersonic, you know, tight spiraling bullet will. So it's very hard and kind of the only way to get over that is. Is size.

[Don]

So 350 grain.

[Lee]

Yeah. So size is the only thing that'll. That'll keep that thing predictable. So yeah. Great gun, Mr. DC. Great combo.

[Drew]

Mr. DCT back in space. Force is just the air force and shorter skirts and bigger strap ons.

[Lee]

Are alien buttholes. Bigger is that. I don't.

[Drew]

All right, more elastic.

[Lee]

They stretch more elastic. Okay, that makes sense.

[Don]

Okay, how Lee knew that?

[Drew]

I'm not sure it was don't ask, don't tell.

[Don]

Spent some time at Area 51, didn't you?

[Lee]

It's not gay in space. I mean that's got to be a motto for theirs. They said no homo first.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's a. What is it? A something encounter of third encounter.

[Lee]

No, go ahead, Jer. Keep going.

[Drew]

How does it get. Help me out.

[Brennan]

Work through it.

[Drew]

Where you get abducted and they anal probe you and stuff.

[Lee]

Yeah, no, it'll get better. Keep going.

[Brennan]

Yeah, he was worried about the silverbacks.

[Don]

Are going to be like when. When what's his name, Cartman in South park got kidnapped.

[Lee]

Abducted.

[Don]

Put a butt probe in him.

[Drew]

Thanks, Don.

[Lee]

Nice butt probe.

[Drew]

No, that was a good.

[Brennan]

You ever. When Cartman got. He tried faking Asperger's and he wanted to like he wanted special benefits for having Asperger's, so he stuffed a bunch of burgers up his ass.

[Lee]

I don't. I may not have sent you the video. I thought I was going to, but I thought I'd sent you enough videos. I saw a video today of a lady got stopped by the cops in someone else's driveway wearing a fake UPS outfit. And when push came to shove and they were like, yeah, you're detained. She. And they cuffed her because she wouldn't stop taking her hands off the hood. And she had a gun on her actually like overweight 30 year old white woman. Just a crazy scenario. She started faking a seizure and it was the worst fake seizure. Both cops were like, oh, what? What?

[Drew]

Not as good as George Floyd. She's got practice. Oh man, he's got practice. All right.

[Lee]

He joked for too long.

[Drew]

There it is. All right, burnt. What was the longest time spent in the unit? You know of a guy spent there. All right, the longest guy that you know has been the longest in the unit. And, and second question. G17 or G34 for duty use still.

[Lee]

Glock 17 for duty use the. I know a guy that put over 20 years in and I call him the Oracle because. Yeah, because he, he, he was an OTC cadre. So. So he knows everyone because everyone has to go through otc. And then later on he came back as the MFF instructor. So when he later on was. Everyone has to go through mff. So he knows everybody at the unit because he basically. Because he basically trained him, you know, and. And since he's been there for 20 years, he knows all the stories. I knew that guy for years before, like, Tora Bora, like, came up and he was like, that's not exactly what happened because when I was there, I was like, well, you were at Tora Bora? Oh, yeah. I spent almost the whole time, you know, I was there almost the whole time the unit was there. I was like, when were you ever gonna. Like, you have to pull these stories out of them or something has to remind them. He's been a part of so many big things and you don't even know it until something jogs his memory and he's like, oh, yeah, I was there for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

20 sn, 28 s says just certified with my second patrol canine. Good job.

[Lee]

Nice.

[Drew]

Any good canine stories? SWAT is gay. Canines lead the way. All right.

[Brennan]

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[Lee]

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[Don]

And we're back.

[Brennan]

Throw it. We're throwing.

[Drew]

All right guys. Sorry about the echo. We don't hear the echo on this side and it's a new setup so we're figuring it out.

[Brennan]

So every. If everybody doesn't know, we have it set up to where we can run eight microphones and we can run six cameras. Like we have the same software but when you do something, everything. Oh, left the door open.

[Drew]

That door.

[Lee]

We can. We can hear your talking. You have mic.

[Brennan]

Your mic's up now.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Oh, don't say anything racist.

[Drew]

Damn it.

[Brennan]

But yeah, so that when you add all these new elements. None of us are audio engineers. None of us are real producers.

[Lee]

What? I don't think it surprised anyone.

[Brennan]

Everything gets all jacked up and it takes us about a month. It takes drew about 20 hours of sitting behind the computer figuring everything out.

[Drew]

So YouTube.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

We also got to do a Patreon giveaway. We're back to Patreon giveaways. We took a two year break or two break but this one is fun. $50 to 09 holsters. Thank you for all 76 of you that signed up the super. The straight hooligan tier, the highest tier in Patreon gets to sign up. So what we're going to do is I'm going To let you do the honors, just tap this number right here and it's going to let us know who the winner is. 41. So I'm going to go to. And 41 is Jason. Jason Stopper out of.

[Lee]

Mr. Stopper.

[Brennan]

Jason Stopper, you have won the 50 gift card. Two zero nine holsters are a big support of us. They were actually our first sponsor ever. Still with us. So we'll be in touch and we'll mail it out to you.

[Lee]

Let's. Let's make sure we answer that one. Any good canine stories? Yeah, actually I got a good canine story and it had to do with 20th group.

[Don]

Oh yeah.

[Lee]

I was gonna go with another one at the unit, but I'm go with this one. We're on a valley clearing operation with the commandos and like, was it 09, 2010? I think you were with AWG, but you said you'd met with Sean during that deployment. You know which one I'm talking about. In Afghanistan when, when it was like 2009.

[Don]

Okay.

[Lee]

And yeah, yeah, I remember the trip.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

So we were doing a valley clearing operation and we were looking for Lyndon Orgrove. Linda Norgrove was that British reporter that got rolled up and I believe it got confirmed that she was working with the, the British intelligence and that was a cover. But anyway. And the SEALS came in and Seal Team 6 came in and killed her on the hostage rescue mission.

[Brennan]

But anyway, they killed her.

[Lee]

They threw a frag and killed her and then. And they initially tried to cover it up.

[Brennan]

No, they, no, she.

[Lee]

Yeah. Anyway, so is that in that book, the crimes of Seal Team 6? I believe it is. Anyway, so we are on this valley clearing operation and they kept on sending us in all these valleys to that they thought she was in and to try to like kind of rummage up Sigan, you know?

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

And that's, that's actually how we, and that's actually how we found her. Was, was our team, you know, pushing into, into Valleys and, and getting intel. Anyway, it was hellacious. It was the absolute dog days of summer of Afghanistan. And we're pushing into Valleys day after day after day, long walks. And our dog handler looks over at us and he's like, hey man, my dog's not doing good. Like I, we got a medevac her out. She's. She's going down. And we look down at the dog. Dog's happy as can be. He's. He's been hurting for a while and we're like, you sure? He's like, oh yeah, dog's not gonna make it, man. I gotta. I gotta protect my dog. I'm like, sure, dog looks fine. No, I know my dog. Dog's going down. Dog's going down. That dog ran the helicopter, jumped in, tail wagging the whole time, and he essentially crawled on the helicopter. He blamed it on his dog because he couldn't keep up with. With the boys.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

And blamed it on his dog.

[Drew]

Everyday American says, what do you guys think about SOF Guys talking about their kills on podcasts. They don't seem to be embellished, but are kind of matter of fact about it.

[Brennan]

Why not?

[Lee]

Yeah, if lucky. Nothing. Nothing to be embarrassed about. And I don't know. I think that's the way. Just usually guys who really did the job just. Just kind of talk about it like it's just a matter of fact. It's just. Yeah, it's just. It's just a matter of fact. It's just a. A part of doing business. The people who lie about it are the ones who, like, tell crazy stories about it. Yeah. And they tell about 400 Iranian freedom fighters. Those are the guys you got to be. You got to be wary of. Like, were the guys that are, like. I pretended to be a retard all by myself doing singleton missions out in Afghanistan for weeks on end. Sure he did, buddy.

[Drew]

All right. Ali says, hey, boys. Tyler mentioned my girl about shipping to Guam and the package being late. We celebrated our anniversary yesterday, and I wore the shirts to sleep while touching myself. Needless to say, girlfriend wasn't too pleased.

[Brennan]

They're big supporters. They bought for me multiple times. But, yeah, I remember I shipped it.

[Drew]

That's not the only thing he's done multiple times.

[Lee]

I'm not sure what the moral of the story is.

[Brennan]

Thanks for your support. Yeah. The package took, like, 20 days to get there. I almost. I was on the verge of sending another one, and she told me it came. Yeah, I wear them. I do. I wear them prior just for him. And I get my cologne on.

[Don]

You're welcome.

[Lee]

Yes. The pheromones drives them crazy.

[Drew]

That's funny. Hightower. 20 bucks. Thank you for the love, Ken. Confirmed. Zero gravity defeats Delta.

[Lee]

False. Nothing defeats Delta. Yeah, how is that confirmed? Get. Get your communist propaganda ass out of here.

[Brennan]

All right.

[Drew]

Jackson Sewell finally got the date to finish up my border patrol stuff.

[Lee]

Nice.

[Drew]

Hopefully in the next year, I can give you that update on bortac. Shout out to Mike Lateris.

[Lee]

If you could read better. It had been funnier.

[Drew]

I. No, Okay. I. I paused between first and last name So I see what you did there.

[Lee]

Okay. All right, man. I'm telling you, I want.

[Drew]

I don't have one of those.

[Lee]

I want you to make bortak. Want you to spend a couple years on it. I want you to come on the show.

[Drew]

Good trade. Good try. Jackson.

[Lee]

Do it for us, Jackson.

[Drew]

Try. You tried. You made Tyler proud. Salvador back in. Who the hell wants to listen to Tyler do karaoke from an Eddie Murphy?

[Brennan]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lee]

Buckwheat and Gumby. Look at that reference.

[Drew]

And Rick James, he's dating himself. Family tradition.

[Lee]

The family tradition.

[Brennan]

All right, we're at 120.

[Lee]

Does that get. Does that get you out of the Eddie.

[Brennan]

Murphy, right?

[Drew]

No, no. Tyler singing Got 110.

[Brennan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

Nobody wants Eddie Murphy.

[Lee]

They want time.

[Brennan]

Happens. The cut off happens.

[Drew]

Nolan, your MCO back in song request. Adios, amigos. Footage of shot is on yt song request.

[Lee]

I'm not sure 2 Canadian dollars is gonna. Is gonna get you anything.

[Brennan]

What do you say?

[Lee]

Two Canadian dollars? I won't say it. Won't get you nothing. I mean, it'll get it red. Yeah, you got that going for you.

[Drew]

Footage of shot is on YouTube. What footage? Oh, footage of the. The blackout gun shot. Is that what it is?

[Lee]

Maybe.

[Don]

Or is that the. He was. He was talking about that JTN shot.

[Drew]

Canadian dollars.

[Lee]

All right, The Canadian shot.

[Don]

The Canadian sniper shot.

[Drew]

The Canadian sniper shot. No, you don't have to send it. We got it.

[Don]

Okay. You don't have to be an 18 fox to figure that out.

[Drew]

Thank you, Noah.

[Lee]

But you are.

[Don]

But I never said I was a good one. But it was one.

[Lee]

So you held. You held three Moses, 18 Bravo, 18 Fox, then 18 Zulu.

[Don]

Every E7 was also an 18 Fox. You know, so.

[Lee]

Okay, yeah. But yeah, do you remember the time that they were trying to get younger team guys to do the Fox job? And they. They wanted like E6s in there because they wanted them to do the job longer because otherwise, because the Fox is basically next in line to be the Zulu. And they're like, we want this guy.

[Don]

To do this job more because that's when they came out with the new intel sergeant school.

[Lee]

The.

[Don]

The new 18 fox course was no longer part of the ANOC.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Don]

So yeah, were. That was because ANOC was part of. And oh, and I were one course.

[Lee]

I didn't know that.

[Don]

Okay, so every dude that went off to ANOC and became an E7 had a secondary MOS as 18 fox, but 18 fox was the assistant team sergeant.

[Lee]

As well. Yeah.

[Don]

And they kind of did away with that. So like I said, I think when we were talking before, when Lumpy was on my team, he was the senior Charlie.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Don]

He was my assistant team sergeant because he was the senior seven on the team.

[Lee]

Yeah. Okay.

[Don]

But yeah, they did change that about. About right around 9, 11. Like around.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Don]

2001. 2000.

[Lee]

That would make sense because that's the way I've always known it. Right. That would have been before. Yeah.

[Don]

So, yeah, back then it was kind of a. Yeah, it was funny.

[Drew]

PNS Golf says. Growing up in Central Florida, did you all ever frequent Cafe Sorrento on Country Club Road? Owned and operated by my grandparents. Also Whiskey Bent and Hellbound for the win.

[Lee]

I'm surprised. I don't know where Cafe Sorrento is because I know exactly where Country Club Road is.

[Drew]

We've been up and down Country Club thousands of times.

[Lee]

Oh, man.

[Drew]

Sorry. We were usually a Taco Bell kind of people. If we did something real special, we'd sit down at Sunny's Barbecue across from Walmart and Sanford. So. Yeah, you know Lake Mary Country Club. That's.

[Lee]

But usually we had to know someone that worked there that'd give us a discount or so. Or some free food.

[Don]

Yeah, Sunny's.

[Lee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We weren't. We weren't rich folk.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Drew]

We were survivors.

[Lee]

We were survivors.

[Drew]

Zulu whiskey. Sup, boys? Can I use how arms to Sarah coat my son? What is it code?

[Lee]

No, it is Sarah coat. But the way he spelled it was just that.

[Don]

He's getting it done.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

My son's bat with his school's logo. It would be a fire pilot theme.

[Lee]

Oh, I'm sure you can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rick's always offering to Sarah coat things.

[Brennan]

Also, I don't know how to spell Sarah coat.

[Lee]

See? Oh, yeah. R A E K O T E.

[Brennan]

Definitely going to remember that.

[Drew]

John Todd. Once again, the article on Space Force special operations. I posted this on the anti Hero Patreon under General on May 3rd. Written by Task and purpose.

[Brennan]

He's got. He's got time stamps.

[Lee]

Yeah, he came with receipts.

[Don]

He's like, you guys are supposed to.

[Brennan]

My bad. Okay, so those jackets are very, very hard. Hard to keep up with manage because there. There's like six of them and they're all going. So when I come in, I've already missed. So if I don't catch it in real time. But yeah, always direct message us on Patreon. It's the easiest way to get to make sure we see Something.

[Drew]

All right. Kenneth Kin's father, Brent Solomon, or.

[Lee]

I. It was. It's just. It's definitely just a personal preference. I can't tell you why I always wore Merrells, but I always wore Merrells. I know some. Some guys that wore Solomons. And they're good, too.

[Don]

Yeah, my. My experience Solomons are good for depends on how much you wear them, but any. Any time over a year and they just like. It's like they're dead. They hurt your.

[Lee]

Your feet.

[Don]

They go from being the most comfortable shoes or boots you have to like.

[Lee]

Yeah, I wore.

[Don]

They're designed that way or what?

[Lee]

In Afghanistan, I wore nothing but Merrell approach shoes, and they were super comfortable. I mean, I wore the. I wore the soles out of them before I ordered another pair.

[Brennan]

I loved them quite as much.

[Drew]

All right, gentlemen. Gindhart, two bucks for the outro song. Kanye's new song. No balls.

[Brennan]

Kanye.

[Lee]

Kanye.

[Drew]

Oh, Kanye.

[Don]

Kanye.

[Brennan]

Who.

[Drew]

Who is she?

[Lee]

Who is she?

[Brennan]

He's a Nazi now.

[Lee]

Oh, hey, did. Did you get the video or put it up about the mayor? The Chicago mayor. I'll send it to you, I think today, then. No, if you can.

[Don]

Can you.

[Lee]

Can you push that over to. To Drew by the Chicago mayor.

[Drew]

Y' all ready for some videos?

[Brennan]

Yeah, let's do some videos.

[Drew]

All right, we're going to try to do this.

[Lee]

Boom, boom, boom.

[Drew]

That ain't it. This is it. Which one you want to do, brother?

[Brennan]

Let's do Chicago mayor down there.

[Drew]

Chicago mayor down there.

[Brennan]

Working through it. Working through it.

[Drew]

Detractors that will push back on me and say, you know, the only thing the mayor talks about is the hiring of black people. No, what I'm saying is when you hire our people, we always look out for everybody else. We are the most generous people on the planet. I don't know too many cultures that have play cousins. That's how generous we are. We just make somebody a family member. Right. This is how we are. And so business and economic neighborhood development. The deputy mayor is a black woman. Department of planning Development is a black woman. Infrastructure deputy mayor is a black woman. Chief operations officer is a black man. Budget director is a black woman.

[Brennan]

Senior advisor is a black man.

[Drew]

And I'm laying that out because when you. When you ask, how do we ensure that our people get a chance to grow their business, detractors that will push back on me and say, you know, the only thing that mayor.

[Lee]

The mayor talks about Back in loop. Got it. I'll. I'll go ahead and take a You get the. The video on me, Drew. I'll take a stab at this. Here's. Here's the obvious fallacy with. With this. And it has to do with. Can we get the. There we go. Thank you, Drew. He said. I almost can't say with a straight face. He's like, the reason why he. He hires nothing but black people. And the reason why he talks about hiring black people all the time is because black people are the most generous people and care about everybody. And then he goes on to talk about how basically they only look out for themselves because the only people he hired were black people.

[Don]

Right.

[Lee]

So you can't say that you're the most generous race and that you look out for everybody and then go on a huge list that everybody you've hired in important positions are black people. And it's the same old, same old. I can't believe, like, we cannot fix this. Don, can you imagine a world we live in where a white mayor stood up and listed five super important positions within the city and said, white guy, this position. White guy, this position. White girl, this position. It would absolutely be an uprising about that mayor being the most racist person in the world and that he has to. And he has to be forced out, fired, and his life ruined. But the other side can do it, and it's just like, well, you know, they're just proud of being black and it's okay.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Well, there's a new administration in charge and just. And guess who just got hit with an invitation investigation on civil rights from the doj? The Chicago mayor.

[Brennan]

Nice.

[Lee]

Idiot, Silver. And. And we've been brainwashed. Cotteville talked about this because you always think about the civil rights movement, civil rights, as if civil rights are only for black people. Civil rights are for all people. Like, it's. It's.

[Brennan]

It's.

[Lee]

There's. Yeah, you can have a civil rights case for white people, a civil rights case for an Asians, you know, for. For. For American. Because it's. It's. It's our laws for our people. Yeah. It applies to all colors. That is so blatantly racist. And we've gotten to the point where they're just blatantly racist. It's insane. And you know what? I'm. I'm glad there's a new person in charge.

[Don]

He's been calling anybody out on it.

[Lee]

Well, like I said, he's. He has an investigation, a civil rights investigation on him by the doj. He's going to have to answer. And this is what they're going to do. He's going to have to prove to the DOJ that the people he hired were the most qualified people and that he didn't hire people because of their color. And a part of me hopes that he did that so they could burn him. There's another part of me that hopes he didn't do that and that the people that were in that position are the most qualified. But he's going to have to now prove that because virtual, his big mouth.

[Don]

You know, it also sucks for the people that are in those positions, because what if they are good? You know, what if they're good at what they do? Nobody's going to think of them that way anymore.

[Lee]

That's what I've always hated about. About whether it be 30 for 30 or, like the, you know, or these DEI hires is this. I'm certain. I am 100% certain some of those hires were the most qualified people, but they will always be looked at as were you or are you a DEI hire? Right? You did that to them. You did that to them by forcing other people into jobs they should have never had. It's. It's insane.

[Brennan]

What's the next video, Phil?

[Lee]

Chicago. New mayor. Same old Chicago.

[Brennan]

Great land in Chicago. I can't. I can't hear anything anything Mac is saying right now.

[Lee]

No one can.

[Brennan]

Do the Facebook. Do the Facebook. This one's wild, dude.

[Lee]

There you go. Thank you.

[Brennan]

Let me see that.

[Drew]

Right hand.

[Lee]

Shots fire. Shots fire.

[Drew]

Shots fire.

[Lee]

Shot. I'm hit.

[Drew]

I'm hit.

[Lee]

He's running. He's running. He's just happened. That is so chaotic.

[Drew]

They miss him the whole time.

[Lee]

He looked like he got away pretty clean. He may sometimes, you know, they can be shot not knowing just yet. But. But that. That's. But that's poor round placement. If that still happens. It's always fun. What's your game plan? You think you're gonna run the.

[Drew]

Most times? Getting rid of evidence so that they don't get as much.

[Don]

And that's.

[Lee]

And I was just about to say he's just blowing through stop signs and. Show me your ass.

[Brennan]

Show me your ass. Stay in the.

[Lee]

Don't move. Don't move. Don't move.

[Brennan]

Show your hands right now. Put their hands up now. This here, too.

[Lee]

Put their hands up now.

[Drew]

Put their hands up.

[Lee]

Hands up. Hands up. Hey, back up. Back up.

[Brennan]

Back up.

[Lee]

Get more squads here now.

[Brennan]

Back up.

[Drew]

We know.

[Lee]

Back up.

[Brennan]

Put your fucking hands up now.

[Lee]

Put your fucking hands up.

[Brennan]

Back up.

[Lee]

Hands up. Hands up. Put your fucking hands up now.

[Brennan]

Let me See that right hand?

[Lee]

Shots fire. Shots fire.

[Brennan]

Shots fire.

[Lee]

Shots fire. Yeah, he. Gosh, he takes two. Oh, but, you know, they. He has a hard time seeing in, of course, because of the side airbags and those. That sucks.

[Drew]

Get your brotherhood's blades out and just pop that sucker.

[Lee]

The. Yeah.

[Brennan]

Is it this?

[Lee]

Yeah. Yeah, this is what. This is what I hate. Look. Look at that. Gosh, they just slow mote it, too. At this point, when he's getting shot at to the right, that is her job. To move in. To move in. And what does she do? The exact opposite. No aggression. No wanting to save your brother. No willing to put your life on the line. Make sure everyone comes as soon as the shots go out. She takes two. Yeah. She starts backpedaling and then gets on the radio. Now's not the time for the radio. In these few seconds, move forward. Forward. And take care of this dirt bag.

[Brennan]

All. Let's finish it. So you.

[Lee]

Put your hands up. Now.

[Brennan]

Let me see that right hand.

[Lee]

She was there.

[Brennan]

She was there. Shot fire.

[Lee]

Shot fire.

[Drew]

Shot fire. Shot fire.

[Lee]

I'm hit.

[Drew]

I'm hit.

[Lee]

And look at her running away again. He's firing at that.

[Brennan]

Oh.

[Lee]

He'S firing at that, and she's running away. I'm so. I'm so pissed off right now. Did you. Did you see that?

[Don]

Where, like, you hear two later pops. I can't tell if it's the guy running away shooting, but as the cops standing up, it almost looks like the female cops shooting at the guy running away as the other cops standing up.

[Lee]

In the line fire. The other guy running away throws his gun back blindly and. And. And. And. And sends a couple rounds. But if you can't go back, like, 10 seconds where he engages the second cop. I don't know. You're fine. Yeah. She's in the best position for both times, but.

[Brennan]

He'S out. No, I'm hit.

[Lee]

Yeah, Give me. Sit down, sit down, sit down. One mil black.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Lee]

Go there. There.

[Drew]

Please don't let me die.

[Brennan]

Please don't let me die.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Brennan]

And the leg.

[Lee]

Good. Here.

[Don]

Who do you get first?

[Lee]

Get this off me. Okay. All right. Are you okay? Yeah. He would have been if you'd have done your job twice. That's hard to watch, man. It just. It's hard.

[Brennan]

Don't say anything cool yet.

[Lee]

To watch.

[Brennan]

In case I want to clip it.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Hey, Don. Hey. All right.

[Lee]

It's hard to watch. She's sitting there asking, are you okay? And what if he. If he doesn't know now because he's on the side of the car. If he'd have known everything that was going on, both those police officers, they should. Their reply should have been, we would be if you'd have done your job.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

If you weren't running away from the gunfire, we would be okay right now.

[Don]

Yeah. Her first instinct was to run away and call for help. She didn't even shoot and retreat.

[Lee]

She just retreated. Didn't even shoot and retreat. Just. In fact. In fact, let's be honest here for a second. Because of the way she was screaming uncontrollably when. When things were going wrong and the way she moved back as fast as she could, not forward. The safest thing she could have done was not shoot. Let's be honest. The safest thing she probably could have done was not shoot. Or else the other police officer hanging, hiding behind the, you know, or I don't want to say hiding. Use. Taking up a tactical position behind the barrier would have. Would have. May have taken around from her.

[Brennan]

With two. With two officers like that and a third person and then a bystander moving in, she has to determine, do I step away from this scenario to deal with that bystander? If that. If she determines that's a threat, then that leaves only the primary deputy or officer through the windshield. If he can't see good enough, you. He has to back out. Like, you can't. Those two have to be like that. And if she determines. If she was squared away and determined, I have to now deal with him for his safety, then he's got to hold it by himself.

[Lee]

I feel like they did a good job of. Of yelling at him and saying, you know, stay away, and, And. And him kind of listening, you know. Yeah, yeah. The bystander, you know, I think they did a good job of handling that, keeping the focus on. On. On the car, which is. Which is the, you know, I believe to be in that situation, a higher. A higher threat.

[Brennan]

So many things. Sorry. Cigar. There's so many things we don't know.

[Don]

What.

[Brennan]

Did they know who was in there? Did they know he might have a gun? Did they. Was that a. Was that. Did they stop him? Although he ran a red light, obviously for PC to stop. But did they know who they were dealing with? Because I guarantee you, if. If you knew the person that was behind it and you knew they had a gun, I'm sure he wouldn't have let him, you know. Don't, don't, don't. Don't do it. Don't do it. Let me see your hands. Don't.

[Lee]

Yeah, it's painful to watch. Yeah. It just, it just, it, you know, and obviously, you know, it's. We have to, you know, for the sake of everyone, you know, what the, the officers, you know, did, what they, what they did, what they had to do, they decided to do with the information that they had. And so sometimes I say it's tough to sit here and Monday morning quarterback these guys who are making split second decisions. But I will stand firm on my. What you don't do is back up as fast as you can and do nothing to support the other two. Here's the. We talked about this before, Tyler. Here's the biggest problem about having a coward like that in your presence. Now, just call it what it is. When you have someone there, you're expecting them to do their job, cover their sector and have your back. She's not just a danger to herself. Being there and being incompetent makes everyone around her more dangerous and more vulnerable because they expected you to step up and you didn't.

[Don]

It's like when you go into.

[Brennan]

Oh, wait, wait till you watch the next.

[Don]

Go into a room and do a two man clear.

[Lee]

Exactly.

[Don]

Know that your partner's got his corner.

[Lee]

Exactly.

[Don]

You're going in there by yourself. You know, you don't have that, ma' am.

[Lee]

To turn in your badge.

[Brennan]

Yeah, the one thing I said, the.

[Don]

One thing I have to say on that last video though is just if you're doing that, you're already at a felony stop. And if there's a unit that seemed about 30 seconds a minute out, why wouldn't you just hold back, let the car breathe for a second, wait for other uniforms. You could approach it with two officers and you could have a third and fourth officer dealing with crowd control.

[Lee]

Right.

[Brennan]

Guarantee their new policy is no pursuing anymore.

[Lee]

Oh, right.

[Don]

I mean, so here's the biggest answer there is. Adrenaline.

[Lee]

Right.

[Don]

You know, hyped up.

[Lee]

Here's a problem with that. Yeah, you. You do one on the other, but you can't. But you can't do both. So they either, they, they probably. You're not in a hurry. I agree with you. Let it breathe like we're not in a hostage situation here. But since they didn't and they're already on top, then you have to continue pressing in. But you can't. Yeah, you have to continue to press the fight, but you can't do both.

[Brennan]

You're talking about when they ran up to the car.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

They might have been concerned about the other driver. Like, is he does he need aid? Because then.

[Lee]

But they. But it didn't. But they didn't run up to the other driver's car.

[Brennan]

Well, because two people there. So you can't help that other driver until you. You deal with the threat. But you can't even.

[Lee]

Exactly. But that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. So you can't help those until you deal with the threat. And, and, And I'll. I'll give you that as a reason, like, not to let it breathe. But the problem is they. They closed on, and then when they got danger close, they didn't do anything. You either have to go all the way in and put hands on. Yeah, yeah. That's where you can't have it both ways. Like, you can't let it breathe up close, you know?

[Don]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

All right, now let him breathe.

[Don]

And it's, it's kind of. It's. It's a mindset thing. And.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

You know, you see that? You know, I'll equate it to something we can also talk about like in a. In a building search or a shoot house type of thing. And you look behind a door or you look in a closet and there's somebody there, and you act surprised and you get freaked out. It's like, well, you were looking for that.

[Lee]

That's right.

[Don]

Yeah. You should have been disappointed that he wasn't there.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

So when they went, when they ran out there with their guns in their hands, they were expecting.

[Lee]

That's right. That's right.

[Don]

When they got the great point, they acted like they didn't know what to do.

[Lee]

That's right.

[Don]

You know, so they, they, they were. They had part of the answer.

[Lee]

Right.

[Don]

And their, Their reaction to finding what they were expecting was shows that they.

[Lee]

Were just going through the motions. Yeah. Too bad that guy wasn't a mirror. She might have shot him.

[Brennan]

All right, go to the next video.

[Lee]

Go the couch.

[Brennan]

You're not going to be impressed by this either, just FYI. Up, up, up.

[Lee]

You make comments like that, you can wear fanny packs all daily.

[Brennan]

You guys ready for this?

[Lee]

I don't know. Okay. I think. I think he's. He could use some. Some physical assistance more than just some verbal assistance. Oh, get, get.

[Don]

No.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it gets better now that body camera. This is just Daddy. Okay.

[Lee]

Did he just shoot? Oh, this is even crazy. Well, they're always compliant at the very beginning. Oh, he's very compliant. How to get to that?

[Drew]

Move.

[Brennan]

Do not move.

[Lee]

Hear?

[Drew]

It's usually ta. Then shot. Rarely is it shot. Put it behind your back now.

[Lee]

Damn it. Looks like they got control.

[Brennan]

He's not shot yet. Sorry. They went back.

[Drew]

Oh, that's what happened.

[Brennan]

So this guy does pretty well. Body weight.

[Drew]

Stop.

[Brennan]

But he does manage to turn over.

[Lee]

Oh, okay. What is going through her mind? Like, let go him. Yes. Stop.

[Brennan]

Dude.

[Lee]

Let him go.

[Brennan]

Let him go.

[Lee]

She could have just held onto his arm. At least make it a one arm fight. Let him go.

[Brennan]

Oh, my God.

[Lee]

I don't want to shoot him. Let him go. Hurry. I'm going to have to. Are you okay? Are you. Did I hit you?

[Drew]

Sit down.

[Lee]

Sit down.

[Drew]

Don't move.

[Brennan]

Don't say anything cool. All right.

[Lee]

Well, when she said, hey, did I hit you? Did he say, almost? I'm not sure that, in that, in that view, I'm not sure that she hit him.

[Brennan]

I don't think she hit him because I think it would have been.

[Lee]

Yeah, I think he, I think he rolled out.

[Brennan]

I would, I, I would be nervous for you to take that shot, but I'm just letting you know that's a.

[Lee]

That'S a contact shot.

[Brennan]

Yeah, that is.

[Lee]

That's, yeah. And we talk about that. I mean, those are things that, that are discussed. You never take a, like a three foot shot when people are rolling around because it, things can change so fast. If you're going to take that shot, that's a contact shot. You put your gun right on him and you send it.

[Brennan]

Not her.

[Lee]

Not, not, not, not that killer.

[Drew]

I mean, do you think he was stunned by the, the fire of the gun three foot away? I mean, or was he hit?

[Don]

Well, she actually broke it up.

[Lee]

Yeah, I, I, it looks like, because it looked like, from, from the original, like, wide zoom, that it looked like she just shot him. But in the, but in her body. Cam, it, I, I have to guess. It doesn't look like she shot him and that he was. And he just like rolled out. Yeah, he jumped out of the way here.

[Brennan]

Can I. Did anybody see anything warrant being fatally killed or killed?

[Lee]

Right.

[Brennan]

I didn't, I missed it.

[Lee]

Right. Lethal force.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

You being scared and weak and. Correct. I don't do the job. Tyler, correct me if I'm wrong. Is being a scared and weak cop grounds for lethal force?

[Brennan]

No. And he's just trying to get away. I get it. If she rolled up and he was punching the lights out of his partner, like your lifeless body, sure. I'm not able to handle this person physically. My partner's being dominated. Lethal force, I'm good with it. But he's in the Middle of a scuffle, trying to hold this guy down. Doesn't look like he's losing at all.

[Lee]

Does not look. Does not look like he's losing. And what's crazier is when she gets close, she actually grabs the suspect's hand for a second and then runs back away. Actually, that's probably what he could. He could have used grab his hand, sit on a. Sit on his arm, and at least make it into a one arm fight. She could have done anything. Anything other than the two things she did. Which was what? Why do female cops always do this? Their number Step one, take yourself out of doing anything useful and scream a lot. That step. Is that not step one?

[Brennan]

That is.

[Lee]

Okay. Classic step one. Step two, make a bad decision. It just seems to be step one. Step two, by the book. I'm just. I'm tired of seeing it. I'm tired of seeing it.

[Brennan]

There's at least one more good video, but it's short and it's funny as hell.

[Lee]

I need one after that.

[Brennan]

Up, up, up, up, up. Oh, right there. That one. This hilarious. Come here. Come here.

[Drew]

Don't bu.

[Lee]

No, I guess here's the good news there. Okay, hold on. I'll wait for the camera. I guess here's. Here's the good news to that. They're. They're consistent. They're just as bad as suspects as they are cops.

[Brennan]

Yep.

[Lee]

Is that the moral to that story?

[Brennan]

I don't know why they haven't. You know how sometimes they do these videos and people put like the eyeballs in the mouth on the pole and they go, my name's on Darius. Pulling from middle linebackers.

[Lee]

Yeah. East Carolina technical State.

[Brennan]

Okay, we should get caught up on these super chats before we head out.

[Drew]

Philip, kibble chat. Philip Kill Patrick. 10 bucks. Thank you, brother.

[Lee]

Thank you, sir.

[Drew]

Make sure I'm not losing. Starting to act funny on me. John. Todd, Back again, guys. What's each of your answers? In World War II, who would you have wanted to fight? The Nazis or the Japanese? And why?

[Lee]

I don't know the Nazis, and I'll tell you why. Because that's just the amount of like the books and movies and everything's always against the Nazis. Like they're the classic evil.

[Don]

Classic bad guy.

[Lee]

Yeah, they're like the classic bad guy. I'd have loved to kill the do. Captain America fought him, obviously.

[Brennan]

You know, speed round.

[Drew]

All right. Artie cooking. Sorry, last message. Tyler Singh was for party all the time. And this one also. Can he also dance? Opt Brentastic. Most Embarrassing story. Tyler, proudest story.

[Brennan]

What's the number? $20 and what?

[Lee]

And Euros? Yeah, no, they're usually doing better than.

[Brennan]

The $130 for party all the time, which is beating family tradition by $10.

[Drew]

Printastic. Most embarrassing story on the job.

[Lee]

He didn't say on the job. He just said, okay, well, all on the job. I gotta think for a second.

[Brennan]

I got one proudest moment. I mean, the CPR baby one was probably my proudest, but I tell that story all the time. So when I made. When I passed SWAT tryouts, that was at work. For this. For this. There's two, give or take, 1800-2000 deputies where I work. 12 people out of those tried out. Only four completely completed the trial process. So I was like, you know, out of 2,000 people, I don't know what percentage that is. That's how I looked at it.

[Lee]

Close to being on the job as a Green Beret in Afghanistan, I think. My first trip, and we went to another team's team house to do a two team hit, and they were watching Troy, I think, and it was with Brad Pitt Salon.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

And it was. And I got then a little late, and it was the Trojans versus the Spartans. And for some reason, out loud, like an idiot, I said, if the. The Spartans are from Sparta, are the Trojans from Troja. It's. And. And they're like. They looked me like, the movie's called Troy. Are you an idiot? And I'm like, yeah, I wish I thought about that for about two more seconds. I have heard of Troy.

[Drew]

All right, we're gonna. We've missed some super chats. Just. They've. They've expired and I'm very sorry.

[Brennan]

Sorry, guys.

[Drew]

We were doing videos. Dust blue, 150 bucks. Thank you, brother. Super late to this podcast, but just wanted to say thanks to Brenda and Tyreek. Y' all doing amazing work. And as an AD Navy guy, I effing love what you cover. And the truth, you give thanks for all you do and keep the press on telling the truth.

[Lee]

Drew, multiple choice ad. Does it stand for accidental discharge or active duty?

[Drew]

Active duty. Active duty.

[Brennan]

I got it.

[Lee]

I know for a thousand. Okay, you're paying attention.

[Drew]

Okay. Jacob Schneider. You can always tell it's a police activity video because the female cop is screaming and running away.

[Lee]

They get it.

[Brennan]

They get it.

[Lee]

They get it. It's not his first time watching the show.

[Drew]

Corey Mills.

[Brennan]

Question.

[Lee]

Oh, we're talking about that. Yep.

[Brennan]

We're getting through the super chats.

[Lee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

Zulu whiskey. Drew, if you were king for a day. What would you do to fix the tax problem? As a libertarian, taxation is theft. As a realist, I think a 10 flat rate would be perfect. I agree with you.

[Lee]

Yep. The Fair Tax 100. Only way to fix this problem.

[Drew]

Zulu Whiskey. Who is that wish version of Dan Bilzerian in the back?

[Don]

Just get a couch, Cam.

[Lee]

Don't beat me up.

[Drew]

Just kidding.

[Lee]

Don't beat me up.

[Brennan]

He's got. He's Jack, though.

[Lee]

No, all right. No, no, not. Not you. Magnet they're talking about. Listen.

[Brennan]

What?

[Drew]

He didn't even do anything.

[Lee]

He's like, man, what I do to you.

[Drew]

Well, I have been doing some push ups.

[Lee]

Unprovoked, Magnus.

[Brennan]

Jacked, I say. Especially for your age.

[Drew]

Absolutely.

[Lee]

47. No, homo, 47. Don't you lie to us. Your beard's at least 63.

[Brennan]

You shall not pass.

[Drew]

Json11 says after living listening to the history of special forces. If it's up the alley, an episode on Otto Score. Zinni.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Drew]

Scorzini and the Grand Sasso Raid. Dude had an insane military and career. And the raid is insane in itself.

[Lee]

Raid.

[Drew]

It's getting his crayon out. Grand Sasso Quay Pro Junior. He's a good buddy. Tyler, are cops trained to take headshots at all? As a marine, we're trained in both center mass and headshots. Just wondering if cops are too.

[Lee]

Good question.

[Brennan]

I don't know about train, but I mean, when we go to the range, part of the qualifications is two in the chest, one in the head.

[Don]

Yeah, I mean, it's part of it. I don't know how much it's emphasized.

[Brennan]

Yeah, and I mean, and now from what we were talking with Cotteville, a lot of agencies are implementing hostage rescue you into basic patrol level academy classes. So that being said, they're probably taking headshots, so. Yeah, I don't think so much for like, you know. God. Magnus. At least it wasn't into the mic. Is that it for supers?

[Drew]

No. All right, I'm waiting for you, Cody Brent. Did you talk about TK's greatest stunt of weaseling his way into the Oval Office and pretending to be a wounded veteran standing next to the true heroes?

[Lee]

Yes, we did. Yes, we sure did.

[Drew]

We did cover that PNS Golf back in 20 bucks. Cafe Sorrento was on the corner of Country Club and Lake Mary Avenue, north of Lake Mary Boulevard, in a small plaza across from the basketball court. We played many times.

[Lee]

That's right.

[Drew]

Closed down 20 years ago. Once again, whiskey bent and held bound for the win.

[Lee]

$20. Yeah, I mean, I played at that Lake Mary basketball court a ton.

[Drew]

Yeah, we did. I didn't play as much as you did. Jacob Schneider. Fun fact about the girl who ran into the poll. Her family tried filing a police brutality claim against the cop.

[Don]

Of course.

[Brennan]

Of course.

[Drew]

I've seen.

[Brennan]

They probably paid him too.

[Lee]

They probably won looking for a payday. Unbelievable.

[Drew]

Oh, man, I've seen the long video of that. And. And she goes and talks to another cop. I think a county cop shows up. I think this is in Daytona.

[Brennan]

I think this is between the same one.

[Drew]

It's a. Yeah, it's a shopping plaza around. Yep, that's 100 where it is.

[Brennan]

I saw the cars in the gray uniform.

[Drew]

She lies through her teeth to the other cop about the first confrontation. It's.

[Lee]

Imagine that.

[Drew]

Yeah. Usual suspect. All right. Justin Carling Tyler. Party all the time. 10 bucks on that one, Brent. Thank you for the feedback.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Paul Rudd. Thanks, dude. Jesus saves. Tell me, Brent, what would be funnier than Tyler singing for a funny out?

[Lee]

What be funnier than him singing? Him singing and dancing.

[Drew]

100%.

[Brennan]

I'll tell you what. For a $499 super chat.

[Drew]

All right. Brett. Brett. I'm not ho. That poll did better police work than any female from what I've seen today. We should put more polls up in the city. Salvador Bellotta says need more cigars. Family tradition at 140.

[Lee]

And.

[Brennan]

140.

[Lee]

Oh, no.

[Drew]

All right, Andrew. 26 Episode on Christopher Taylor Getting railroad. Yeah, I gotta look more into that Zulu whiskey. Brent, what pro shooters did you train with? Matt Prunka talks about training with Ben Stoer.

[Lee]

Gosh, can't we. I'm forgetting his name. Ipsic Legend. Rob. Rob Latham. Yeah, trained with him several times and God, I'm so bad with names. We just talked about him earlier. Him shooting with his friend and his daughters in the shooting world too. Speed shooter. Jerry Mick. Yeah.

[Drew]

William Allen for 20 bucks. Going to see Stergo Simpson tomorrow night. And he. He is covering party all the time. More for Skyler singing.

[Lee]

Oh, no. 20 bucks for party all the time.

[Drew]

Brody Martin. Brent, did you work with high speed chicks during your CAG daddy secret missions? These lady patrol cop videos are brutal. But I know some squared away detectives. Also love the Monday history videos. God bless y' all.

[Brennan]

Thank buddy.

[Lee]

I don't know about high. I don't know about high speed. Check chicks. It's fast chicks.

[Drew]

That's the super chat.

[Brennan]

Cory Mills.

[Lee]

Okay, real quick because I love this aspect of it. They talk about the Grand Sasso raid and I thought it was a raid like an American raid, right. It was actually a German raid and that would. And a good missions well executed high risk missions should be talked about regardless of. Of what side they were on, you know. So Grand Sasser raid literally means Operation Oak. Conducted by the German military on 12 September 1943 was a successful operation by German paratroopers and Waffen SS commandos to help the deposed fascist dictator Mussolini escape from custody. And the Gran Sasso d' Italia massif, the airborne operation was ordered by Adolf Hitler, approved by General Student, planned and executed by Major Harold Moores. There you go. That's. That's what that is. Sounds like a pretty cool thing to deep dive. Yeah.

[Drew]

All right, well can says. What about doing an episode on the federal conviction of Admiral Robert Burke and the Navy's Fat Leonard scandal helps explain SEAL to s. Or lack of.

[Brennan]

We could do a whole episode.

[Drew]

Tyler, take your shirt off and sing it's raining mint. Five bucks. Well, you said $4.99.

[Brennan]

Did you? No. 499.

[Lee]

Oh, 499 pennies. All right. All right. Let's talk about, let's talk about Corey Mills here for a second. I'm, I'm just, I'm. I'm going to read the article. I mean it's, it's, it's a, it's a little bit lengthy, but it's, there's a lot to it and you can let me know to stop whenever you want to talk about something. He is a. He's a congressman right here in, in Florida. So Blaze Media put out an article called Stolen Valor question mark Veterans dispute Corey Mills record. He fooled a lot of us. Here we go. He has a monstrous gift of former colleagues say. And so, and by the way, we have gotten a lot of requests to look into this guy.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

So Republican Representative Corey Mills of Florida built his political career with stories of heroism in the US army and as a private military operative. But several former colleagues say he exaggerated or lied about being blown up twice in Iraq. Being an Army Ranger, that gets your. Your goat done. Training as an 18 Delta Special Forces military medical sergeant, being a military trained sniper and saving the lives of two soldiers wounded by enemy fire. They also allege he walked away from his post in Iraq when his employer asked him to verify his record. As much time and energy as Mills has spent promoting his history, he's now running from some of the details as the men he served with the media are increasingly questioning his record, his personal life and his truthfulness. Mills is under new and intense scrutiny after Blaze News revealed that he was married in 2014 by a radical imam in Falls Church, Virginia. The imam, Sheikh Mohammed Al Hanoudi, was a senior member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a fundraiser for the terror group Hamas, and an indicted Cohen's unindicted co inspirator of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. That was the imam that had his wedding. The wedding took place at the Dar Al Hajar Islamic center, where two of the 911 hijackers once attended and were notorious, and where notorious terror leader and Al Qaeda propagandist Anwar Al Alaki was an imam. God, just look into the place you got you got married at just a little bit. Does it sound like the best place you want to you want to tie the knot? Mills has consistently presented himself as a Christian since he ran for Congress, but there continues to be controversy or whether Mills converted to Islam in order to marry Renee al Saudi in 2014. His girlfriend recently told the Daily Mail the Daily Mail Mail that he claims that the claims made in the Blaze article are entirely untrue. While five former associates, including one of the record one on the record, told Blaze News that Mills told them he had converted at the time of his wedding. Many former associates also recently went on the Record with Blaise News to dispute his record of accomplishments overseas. He has a monstrous gift of bullshit and it's impressive, said Jesse Parker Mills supervisor during the last of his time with DynCorp. It's it's also pathetic because the way I look at it is people could have effing died depending upon him if he failed to perform. This is where we get into his military stories. He sandsome he's charismatic. He has always used that to his benefit, said a former US Marine counter sniper who worked with Mills at DynCorp carrying out security missions in Iraq. So you know he fooled a lot of us. Multiple men who worked with Mills at military contractor D Core International told Blaze that when the company demanded that employees verify their military service training and qualifications at the request of the U.S. state Department, Mills delayed until the deadline, then disappeared, leaving his rifle and gear laid out on his bed. What they say he never returned and that fellow soldiers searched for him to no avail. Park said he warned Mills and other soldiers that they needed to turn in documentation of their military record and achievements to meet a demand made by the US State Department in the early 2009. He said that for weeks Mills did not comply on the Day of the deadline, he said he again warned Mills to turn in his proof of credentials. I found Corey and I told him four flat out. Corey, I don't have your bio and your supporting documentation in my hand by 1900 hours. You have to go get on an airplane tomorrow morning and leave. Park said after issuing the order. That was the last I saw Corey because he piled up all of his Dyn Court and his State Department serialized items, weapons and. And other things on his bed and he walked out the gate. Nobody ever saw him again. Park said he was the one who effing fired him. Let's stop there for just a second. As a contractor, you know, in order to get these lucrative contracts which he would have been on doing these security details, they, they it's all, especially in this time frame, it is mandatory that you had a special operations background. And it's clear we'll talk about it more and detailed in the rest of the article that he lied on his. On his resume.

[Don]

Lied on his resume. And he got the job anyway.

[Lee]

And he got the job anyway. And that's, that's where it's super dangerous because thankfully he never had to do the job that required his special operations background. But he's right. You are putting people's lives in danger by saying you're capable of doing something. And if the hit the fan, you were not capable. Capable of doing certain things. Especially lying that you said you were a Special Forces medic who are the best trained medics in the world. That's who you want next to you if you get shot. And then to come to find out, oh, you weren't a medic. You put everybody at risk by doing that.

[Brennan]

They must have really rushed that contract to not check that.

[Lee]

I mean he's probably almost called a whips contract, which we. Which holds most of those overseas security contracts for the State Department.

[Don]

Yeah. And it. And it. If those were the requirements for the job, they should have ab done a 100% before you're doing the job like DD214s and all that stuff get submitted.

[Lee]

You can't fake a DD214.

[Don]

No.

[Lee]

Not even 10.

[Don]

And even if you do and it gets by, at least you know, I.

[Brennan]

Like how the press is going after this guy, but they won't go after Tim Kennedy.

[Lee]

I know, it's crazy.

[Don]

Well, so because he's a Republican politician.

[Brennan]

We just got to wait for Tim to get in office and then we'll do it.

[Don]

But yeah, so I mean if it was not necessarily a contract that required that Stuff and he embellished. Say he met the minimums, but he embellished.

[Lee]

Right.

[Don]

All that. And then I could. I could easily see him moving up into other contract based on what they thought once he was already an employee. Because that happens.

[Lee]

That happens.

[Don]

Some of these contracts that, you know, some guys we know are on, but they weren't qualified back in the day for. But because they had such a good track record and all that stuff, they're doing it. Doing the job that.

[Lee]

Right. In a weird way, by doing the job. And once you've done the job for three. Three years, the resume now says you have to have been a security detail for three years to get the program manager job. When. And now you don't need assuming that you got the first job off your background, if that makes sense. It's.

[Don]

It's so.

[Lee]

It's insane.

[Don]

All the. A lot of details. If.

[Lee]

Oh, it's coming.

[Don]

He was just here.

[Lee]

It's coming. All right, here we go. And to not come forward about it. Just wait to the last day and leave your stuff on the bed.

[Don]

I mean, the bus.

[Lee]

It's a bad look.

[Don]

You don't give me this stuff. You gotta go. So he left.

[Lee]

So Current said the next morning during his run, people began to notice that Mills was no longer around. What's going on with Corey? No one can find him. He's left his radio, his Glock, his sniper rifle, and his M4 in his bed. And he literally walked off the US consulate in the middle of the night under darkness. He walked out the back gate. We have video of it. Of course there's video of it. It's a consulate.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Kern said once they determine Mills left on his own, it just started to make sense. It was like, oh, well, he didn't effing run anymore. He. He couldn't effing run anymore. He couldn't hide anymore. Why else would someone do this? Why would someone walk away from a $200,000 a year job? I mean, just submit your. Dude. Bill said the story about how he left Eincore in Iraq was. Was. Well, I guess there's video evidence saying differently. And five different people's a strong case. No one walks off in the middle of the night unarmed in Iraq. Bill said, all right, let's just put it first like that. I put my gear on the bed and walked out in the middle of the night. Question mark. No, well, we call that. We call that dual sourced. That's. That's way more than dual sourced. That's. I mean, mill. Mills said he Requested early release so that he could return the United States with his girlfriend who was leaving around the same time. I'm sorry, but I didn't go walk around and knock on everyone's door to go, hey, by the way, guys, I ended up getting a contract release for two days. Mill said, like a week or two weeks earlier than my contract was set to expire because I wanted to go home with a nice girlfriend. Mills explained, then why is your boss on the record for saying, give us your documentation by this date or you're out and you happen to leave exactly on that date, then that's just. It's just. It's just a BS explanation. Just by reading the article, like, and you can see right through it.

[Don]

I mean, why. Why would the boss, who probably has no dog in a fight other than, you know, why would he fabricate.

[Lee]

That's right. He would have known. He would have known when you left, why you left.

[Don]

If he put it in a request to leave early, that's the guy who probably would have at least approved it or processed it.

[Lee]

And it's in. Corey goes on to say, this is. This is the. This is the thing that's so ridiculous about these types of fabricated nonsense is that. I mean, it's so outlandish. Like any other liar, I haven't looked into it. I'm just going off of what the Blaze said. But the Blaze, I'm assuming, has done their job and they have multiple sources saying it. So if they're going into print against the congressman, yeah, man, the Blaze is good, people. It just sounds like, I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but we do it. It just sounds like classic Tim Kennedy stuff. If. If your version is really true, you would have eyewitnesses be like, hey, I can.

[Brennan]

I can.

[Lee]

I can end this right now. Go call so and so. He approved it. I can put this to bed right now.

[Brennan]

Which would have held weight.

[Lee]

Which would have held weight. But instead you just say, oh, that's ridiculous.

[Don]

Or, I mean, like, look, when you put in a request like that, it's probably email.

[Lee]

That's. That's right. There's documentation of requests.

[Don]

If I, if I was being accused of that, I'd be like, let me find the email that I sent to and tell you who I sent it to.

[Lee]

Here's. Here's more. Mills often has made the claim that he was blown up twice while on mission in Iraq. From Dyncor. He points to a certificate of appreciation he received from the US Embassy in Baghdad as proof of his brave Actions, the certificate reads, in grateful recognition of your prompt and brave action when your motorcades were hit by an EFP on March 15 and April 19, 2006. You exhibited the highest caliber of professionalism and your actions saved the lives of your comrades. Kern, who is his boss, said there was. Said there were blank templates of the certificate floating around. There were around 35 guys that got the same thing. The first incident on March 15, 2006, involved a motorcade that got blown up by a roadside bomb. Blaze News confirmed that Mills was present at this scene. However, photographic evidence and sources have called into question the seriousness of his injuries. Mills told Blaze News he suffered a concussion when the suburban SUV in which he was riding in was damaged by an ied. I ended up hit. I ended up hitting my head, he said. Was it some severe maiming wound? No, I've got the actual document that shows where I was hit. Why are you saying on your website that you were wounded and now you're telling me a different story? Blaze News asked Mills. I had a couple concussion. So a concussion isn't being wounded knocking your head off an actual armored vehicle door and having to go get treated and having three days down, that's not being wounded. Right. So what is your definition? Do I need to lose an arm? Do I need to be shot in shrapnel? Just tell me. Tell me what your definition of wounded is. Because apparently traumatic brain injuries is not an external wound. This. Whether that's true or not really won't matter about the second incident. And when you lie about the second incident, it makes me question the first incident. But guys are starting to hide behind TBIs as. As their. As. As their combat wounded thing. And it's just like ptsd. It's an invisible wound of sorts. Like, you can't prove it. And anyone who wants to reel in awards or, you know, or financial rewards, like disability, like, you can just claim tbis. Like, prove. Prove it didn't happen. You can't. Trust me, bro. Trust me, bro.

[Brennan]

I honestly think they would. I think they would go and be like, okay, what caused it? And they. They have people that go research IED blasts and events that have. That's what I was told. The VA tried to say when I. When I said I have human hearing loss, and they're like, welcome to the military, everybody. And they were like, but if you can trace it back to a specific incident where it was devastating to your eardrums, then, yeah, well, but, you know. Well, no, I don't have that.

[Don]

Well, you know, I mean, all good lies and stories are based on some.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Don]

Truth.

[Lee]

And here's. But I guess here, here's the bigger problem I have. And this is just the truth. When you got good dudes, this is what good dudes do with whether it's right, wrong or indifferent, with TBIs or hitting their head on, on a column in an armored vehicle, they go, don't worry about me. Like, the guys who are actually hurt worry about, like, no one takes that award because it's just, it's not, it's. It, it breaks man code. It just does.

[Brennan]

Maybe he didn't have a chain of command put him in for it.

[Don]

Yeah, well, you know, it was a contractor, you know, job.

[Lee]

So Blaze News pressed him on his claim that he suffered a tbi. Mills responded, no, I actually just got reviewed by the PA and the doctor there and they basically told me to monitor myself for the next 24 hours. I've seen people like, over with like real bad concussions and real bad tbis and they start throwing up either immediately or, or sometimes it's, it's, it's. It's a delayed thing.

[Don]

T stands for traumatic.

[Lee]

Yeah. And when it's delayed, like, those guys are messed up. And when they're messed up, no doctors be like, I just monitor yourself for 24 hours. So right off the bat, it's just again, to hype it up to be like, I was injured in roadside bombs in Iraq. Just, just say you served and, and say you served as a contractor. You did it for money. You know, there's nothing wrong with that. But don't.

[Brennan]

He was never in the military.

[Lee]

He was in the military. We'll get to that too. Here a second. The second Corey. The second incident. April 19, 2006. Mills motorcade was hit by a roadside bomb as it made its way toward the Ministry of Electricity. According to a summary report obtained by Blaze News, the two lead vehicles in the convoy had turned right towards the Ministry of Electricity when the following Humvee was struck by an array of explosive explosively formed penetrators with five or six link devices. Mills vehicle was allegedly 50 yards away from the one that sustained bomb damage, and his colleague said he was never wounded. A photograph Provided to Blaze Nudie 2 Blaze News by Scott Kimkins, one of Mills colleagues who was wounded in the attack, shows Mills with large blood stain on his right pant leg after the mission. Kempkins and others who were there said the blood did not belong to Mills. Mills was absolutely not wounded, said Scott, who suffered injuries from the bomb While Sergeant Ray was bleeding quite a bit. It's definitely. It definitely was not life threatening. So the blood on Corey's pants was from Sergeant Ray. He didn't need to lie about anything. Kimkin said he was behind the driver of the Humvee when the bomb blew. I got hit in the shoulder, the neck and the leg, Kimkin said. And then the guy in the turret took a little shrapnel to the side of the face. That was it. Cory's vehicle was already around the corner and 50 yards down the street. It would have been impossible for him to be wounded. So there. There's like the bigger one to say that you were blown up twice. Well, you definitely weren't the second time. And if you're willing to lie about that, now I have to question everything you say. I don't know. Just tell the truth. Can we just. Is that asking too much from people? Chase. Chase Nash, who rode in the same vehicles. Mills in the moto. Kate agreed. I just want to be very clear. There was one vehicle that was actually hit and took blast. And it wasn't the vehicle I was in, and it wasn't the vehicle Corey was in. That vehicle I was in now said it was. Wasn't wounded. Corey was not wounded. I know for a fact that is, he was not wounded. If Corey just told the truth, it would have been extremely honorable. But Corey was never, ever blown up as a private security contractor. You can look at all the State Department documents on when people were injured, contractors were injured. Corey was never injured. His name will never come up because it never happened. That's one of your. That's. That's your teammate, you know. Yeah. Kimkins gave Mills credit for the medical work he did after the explosion, but said the injuries were not life threatening. Moving forward, Mills further confirmed that he was not in the vehicle that was hit the second time, despite the congressional website claiming that he was struck twice. Other claims to draw fire. Mills colleague said he lied about other things, claiming that he had been with the Army 75th Ranger resident regiment based at Fort Benning.

[Don]

Easy to prove or disprove.

[Lee]

That's such a stupid thing to lie about. You. You know the rangers are going to jump all over your case like you have. It's. That's a tough lie because you see.

[Brennan]

How it's gonna play out.

[Don]

See how this goes for you, right?

[Lee]

It's kind of like saying you're the.

[Don]

What's the thing? It's a bold move.

[Lee]

It's a bold move, Cotton. Oh, let's see. Max Woodside, who was at one time Mills team leader, told Blaze News I bought all his. He told me he was a Ranger. I didn't vet him or anything. He told me all the cool guy. I didn't. I didn't know. Woodside said all things considered, Milled performed well at every mission we were on. He perpetrated the lie and then he performed well. But Woodside echoed many of Mills other former colleagues when he told Blaze News I had to earn my rights, I had to earn my stripes and I had to earn my abilities to be able to do the. The things I did and he didn't. Park said that a veteran who retired from the Rangers and later worked at DynCorp confronted Mills about all his tall tales. One day our deputy project manager who retired from the 75th Ranger Regiment flat out stopped Corey on the street and he says, if I hear one more time that you have said you were a Ranger, I'm gonna beat your ass within an inch of your life and send you home on a medical flight.

[Don]

See that guy?

[Lee]

That guy's a Ranger.

[Don]

I've already vetted him. Probably know him.

[Lee]

Oh. To be a Ranger medic, Mills would have had to go through an advanced 42 week course to become an 18 Delta Special Forces medical sergeant. According to his official DD214, Mills was a combat medic certified with an EMT course. EMT course that is not special operations Medic get out Community college.

[Brennan]

I'm not on it. I'm just saying it's not like a paramedic or anything.

[Drew]

That's the small one.

[Lee]

His primary specialty denoted by the military occupational coded 91 whiskey 2 papa corresponds with healthcare specialist. There's no mention of his service in the elite Army Rangers, although he described himself as one in the pass. Keep going. Kim can said that when DynCorp quarter operation had to move to northern Iraq after losing the government contract for Baghdad, he started to notice Mills stories. We started hearing stories that Mills was claiming he was a Ranger and all this other stuff. Dynkor sent Mills to its sniper school based on his claims of having prior sniper military experience. The truth of these claims have since been called into question. I can already tell you as a medic, you ain't going to sniper school. As a medicine.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Makes no sense. Why would a. Why would a medic be a sniper.

[Brennan]

Unless you reenlisted for it. That's the only way.

[Lee]

The truth of these claims have since been called into question. Mills talking about being an expert sniper also raised eyebrows among his co workers. He Was supposed to have been this super duper military trained sniper and all this. And then they sent him to their sniper school. He got through it, but he really struggled. It was like he was learning it for the first time. As one of them told me, if he was some hot shit sniper from the army, that course should have been a breeze. Park said Mills former colleagues want some effing answers from Corey. I like guys that go to ranger school, guys that went to sniper school, park said. I mean those are very long hard courses and not everybody graduates from this. And for him to basically say that he had done all these things, there are some really tough questions. Mills was also able to enroll in course to become a designated defensive marksman, which is supposed to be limited to those who attended an accredited military sniper school. And so now he's actually doing sniper work because he said he was a sniper.

[Don]

Bullshitted his way into the State department sniper schools once.

[Lee]

Yeah, exactly. Once again, think God didn't have to actually do his job that people are depending on you to do? I've never actually heard of a guy giving up sniper slot to send a medic, said Bobby aller, a former 82nd Airborne paratrooper, squad leader and master gunner who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. He later worked for Dynacor. What does that serve the unit? And what aspect ever on the battlefield would it have to have your medic as a sniper? He gets it. Is he gonna set his rifle down and run over to help somebody? Aller said. You know, that would never happen whatsoever. I mean, it's just. It's not even fathomable when the State Department snipers working for DynCorp had to go to the range to re qualify. Some noticed peculiarities about Mills and his approach. We would look over and Cory would be doing shit on a ballistic calculator. You know, like apps. Everyone's sitting there going, dude, it literally takes you longer to put in the information and that than it would be just to do it in your head and send the shot. So everyone was picking up on this stuff. Like Corey. What? What the f do you mean? You're asking what grain bullet we're using? Dude, we only use match ammo, which is 168 grain. It's the same you've been shooting in the military as a sniper. What are you talking about, Corey? Why are you asking dumb questions like that? Current said Mills didn't speak the verbiage common to snipers. I've trained with SS snipers, Secret Service snipers. I've trained with SEAL snipers I've trained with law enforcement, LA County, SWAT guys, current said. I know and understand that all that we all have different training and I understand that formulas are different. But the stuff Mills was saying, I remember thinking what are we doing? Is this out of a movie? Snipers have a verbiage sniper observer monologue. This guy doesn't know about being a sniper. According to Mills application for promotion to shift leader at Dyncor, he served as a medic in the 75th Ranger Regiment and received training at the U.S. army Sniper School in November 2002. Those alleged facts are not on his DD 214 discharge paperwork, and several of Steinkoor colleagues say they are false. He also claimed he was an attachment member of JSOC and performed numerous joint operation missions in Iraq. The JSOC information is also not listed on std 214. I'll go into this one. I know it's long, but it's just a lot of bullshit. Questions are also being raised about the information used to justify Mills receiving a Bronze Star. Mills said the Bronze Star has been on his official military record since 2004. Some of the men who served in the army with him question the details used to justify it. The army form 638 that details support for Mills Bronze Star says Mill earned the award for acts of heroism in Iraq 2003, including rendering life saving aid to two wounded soldiers and subduing an enemy combatant in a separate engagement. Five former service members, including two that Mills allegedly saved, question the details, the form said. On March 31, 2003, in Samawah, Iraq, south of Baghdad, Mills saved the lives of Corporal Alan Babin and Private First Class Joe Height, who were hit by enemy fire. At great risk to his own life, he applied to emergency medical care, earning on the Bronze Star. There is no mention of Mills and accounts given by members of the 1st Battalion, 325th Airborne Alpha Company or from the company commander. Two men, PFC Jesse Walker and Staff sergeant August Burnt, tended to Babbin and Hite's wounds under fire. In the middle of that firefight, we started taking crossfire from across the road. It was pretty intense. RPGs were hitting the trees around us. We were taking it from from both sides. When Height was shot in the head, Babin started running toward him and when he was shot in the abdomen, Height's wounds ended up being minor. But Babin was badly wounded. According to one account, Staff sergeant Jesse Walker ran to Allen, started an iv, put dressings on his wound, administered drugs to stop the bleeding Height told news that Mills. What Mills claimed about him isn't true. He didn't save my life, Height said. I don't recall him being there. The third achievement cited in Mill's recommendation for Bronsar said his unit came to aid another US Unit pinned down by enemy fire. It just, I mean, it just goes. It just goes on and on. It's.

[Brennan]

He's like Tim Kennedy worthy dude.

[Lee]

And thankfully the Blaze, it all did, did, did all the work for us. This, this is a standing representative of Congress out of Florida.

[Brennan]

People just don't care enough. It's sad.

[Lee]

And here's what's crazy again. The truth was good enough. Just saying that you served in the military in, In Iraq, you know, as, as a combat medic or, or as a medic. And you can say that you served your country as a. As a contractor. No one voted for you because you got blown up twice. You think, you think. How many people voted for him because he got blown up twice? Nobody. So why did you lie about that? It does nothing to add to who you are, but finding out that you lied about it does everything to detract who you are. It's crazy. So what do you think should. What do you think should happen to elected officials when it's proven that they've lied.

[Brennan]

Lied about military service? I think that should be something that's taken very seriously.

[Lee]

You think Miller, you think removed from public service?

[Brennan]

Yes.

[Lee]

If you lie about your military record, you are just. It's just automatic removal.

[Brennan]

I think there's a hearing with the Senate and Congress, however, all that works.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

And you know, if you can't prove.

[Lee]

Your case within a. Without a shadow of a doubt, I.

[Brennan]

Wouldn'T even put it on him to prove it. I.

[Lee]

It's on them. It's on. It's on them to disprove it.

[Brennan]

No. Well, I mean. Oh, you mean for them to prove that he's lying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, there has to be some kind of accuser. It can't be blazed innocent until you prove. So it has to be the people. It has to be some kind of. And they're probably just nothing in place for stolen valor right now for that.

[Don]

I mean, they're all a bunch of liars.

[Lee]

Yeah.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Isn't that crazy? You can lie about service to your country and still being elected officials, official representing the American people. That's pretty. That's pretty crazy.

[Drew]

Clinton's do it all the time.

[Brennan]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Yeah. Hillary Clinton did lie about being under sniper fire that. Remember that Story.

[Brennan]

Yeah, we had a Patreon person that said they met. They must have just gotten lost at a question for you.

[Lee]

Okay.

[Brennan]

They said, my mom wants to get a laser for a Ruger LC9. Could you or someone use.

[Lee]

Know.

[Brennan]

Recommend a good laser for her? That's not too ridiculous in price, but good. Her eyesight isn't as good as it used to be, and she just wants to be sure of her shot because she doesn't get a lot of practice.

[Lee]

That's the thing about electronics, especially electronics on. On guns like you have. Like, because they're dealing with recoil and being shook a lot. Like, you're gonna have to pay a little bit. I'd go with Crimson Trace. Crimson Trace is a. Is a solid.

[Don]

A solid company who all makes lasers that fit on that streamlight. Also makes one that has an integrated light and laser. I. I'd suggest they're pretty solid.

[Lee]

Go with streamlight.

[Drew]

Expensive.

[Lee]

Yeah, but it's your mom. Don't go cheap on your mom.

[Don]

Yeah, buy it for us.

[Drew]

Yeah, things fit on that little gun too.

[Don]

Yeah, I say that's a little. I don't even know what. What. Who makes one that fits on it?

[Brennan]

Drew, there was one super chat for you. It expired. I don't know if you saw it. Did you read it?

[Drew]

Yeah, something about the. What does the Bible say about flat earth?

[Brennan]

It's down there.

[Drew]

We got 100 bucks from our family tradition, I think. Zulu whiskey. Drew, what's your thoughts on flat earth based off the Bible? Well, the Bible talks about a round earth. The book of Isaiah says that he sits above the sphere of the earth. And the book of Proverbs and Psalms says that he drew a circle around the waters. So it does not say that's flat. People say that the Bible talks about the four corners of the earth. The Hebrew word for corner also means points. So the four points is just north, west, south, east. It's not talking about the earth being flat and having corners. So Book of Isaiah, Proverbs, Psalms, all talk about the earth being a sphere year.

[Brennan]

I wish I knew about anything as much as you know about.

[Lee]

Kidding.

[Brennan]

Yeah. So my boy, my new best friend, Danny. No profile picture. $100. Family tradition. Can't see my man Tyler singing dancer.

[Don]

Will saved you, man.

[Brennan]

Yeah. Danny, you come here, I'll buy you all the beer you want, bro.

[Don]

Open open fridge. Privilege.

[Brennan]

Yeah, dude. So that's it for the Thursday night squad cast. Went a little late, but it was well worth it. Until next time. Thank you guys for coming. Thank you for Your super chats. Thank you for your engagement. It. We're so appreciative of all you guys. From the bottom of our hearts, we. We. We couldn't do any of this without you. And you make. You make everything super fun. All the inside jokes, you know, you guys making new guys go through the ringer and earn their place, you know, in here. No. Everybody gets made fun of, so we really appreciate it. And Family Tradition by Hank Williams.

[Lee]

Tyler's all emotional tonight because you guys came through and saved them. You really. You gotta hit them in the little soft spot there.

[Drew]

And don't Don.

[Brennan]

Thank you so much. Lyrics and everything. See you next Thursday.

[Lee]

Let's see what we got in the chats tonight. Thank you, Drew. Matthew Ravo. Have a great Memorial Day, everyone. I don't know. I'm gonna do Memorial Day. I have no plans. Matthew, you're driving to Tennessee. Driving to Nashville.

[Brennan]

Isn't he?

[Drew]

You're driving to Tennessee on Monday.

[Lee]

Monday. That's right. I am. Monday. Yeah. Flamingo Tactical. Well, I knew I'd see you in here tonight. Stay dangerous, brother.

[Drew]

Thanks for the pizza, bro.

[Lee]

Oh, our boy Hemingway. I have not seen Warfare yet. I don't know. It's taken me so long to see that movie. You guys see Warfare yet?

[Drew]

I seen it.

[Lee]

Is that good to see it twice? Nah, you wouldn't know any better. Oh, Justin caught. He still wants party all the time.

[Don]

Yep. They're still pulling for it.

[Lee]

He's still pulling for it. Dude, Brent, you gotta see it. All right. You know what movie they're talking about? It's like.

[Don]

I've seen some trailers for it.

[Lee]

Yeah, I've seen some trailers for it. Yeah. I gotta see it. Who gives better hugs, Brent or Tyler? I'm the hug king. Unless you're a dude. I'll just give you a. The bro hug. The bro hug. Yeah. You gotta keep those two arms between us.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Lee]

Reginald. Reginald. Reginald. That's a good. That's a good. That's a good word. That's a good name. Would Britain be offended if someone mixed in some green with an FRCC cigar? Oh, I think I know the green. We have green in our Delta Limited, but I think he's talking about a little. Yeah, the sticky Icky. Yeah. Nah, I wouldn't be offended. I wouldn't be offended.

[Brennan]

Don't use crystal.

[Don]

Be a pretty expensive blunt, though.

[Lee]

That's right. Yeah. Oh, Vena. She's in there.

[Drew]

There.

[Lee]

Oh, Vena likes you, Don.

[Drew]

Don is awesome.

[Don]

You know.

[Lee]

Tbd. Damn potheads. The doctor is in the house. Happy Memorial Day, everyone. Thank you to all who served and kept our nation safe. Absolutely. Hey, all you guys that served in the chat, thank you guys so much for what you did.

[Don]

Pipe tobacco.

[Lee]

Frcc. Pipe tobacco.

[Drew]

I've talked about it.

[Lee]

I know Drew's talk. I love the smell of pipe. I enjoy smoking a cigar more, but I love the smell of pipe tobacco.

[Don]

I tried to smoke a pipe, you know, back.

[Lee]

Some work.

[Don]

It takes.

[Lee]

Yeah, it takes work.

[Don]

It's a job. 2A boys. I love those guys, man.

[Lee]

Oh, they're the best. Yeah, you talk about something about a family that knows how to raise boys.

[Don]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they're awesome.

[Lee]

The whole family, big girls. Knows how to raise a family.

[Drew]

Wonderful girl.

[Lee]

No kidding.

[Don]

Yeah, they've come out and trained with us.

[Lee]

Tyler, would you be a cop if you didn't know much? Tyler, obviously does know a lot. That's a good point, though.

[Brennan]

What was the first part?

[Lee]

I don't know.

[Don]

I don't know.

[Lee]

Brett. There's only two things on the planet that are truly amphibious with flight. One of them is a Navy seal. You can't swim with them.

[Don]

What?

[Lee]

I sure as hell can swim with them. You know what? They can't swim. Swim with me. Speaking of flight, did you know, Drew, did you know the only type of bee that can't fly?

[Drew]

The only type of bee that can't fly? No.

[Lee]

Kobe. Kobe. Oh, good night, ladies and gentlemen.

[Drew]

I think that was his pilot. Pretty sure it was a pilot couldn't fly.