Squadcast (Live) 05/29/2025

Summary

Summary of "The Antihero Podcast - Squadcast (Live) 05/29/2025"

Episode Details:

• Title: The Antihero Podcast
• Host/Authors: The Antihero Podcast (Mike, Bradley, and Tyler)
• Description: Part Delta Force. Part Street Cop. All Truth.
• Episode: Squadcast (Live) 05/29/2025
• Release Date: May 30, 2025

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Introduction

In this live episode of The Antihero Podcast, hosts Mike, Bradley, and guest Carl Anderson, an honorably retired police captain turned documentary filmmaker, engage in a candid discussion about recent law enforcement incidents, internal police dynamics, and broader societal issues affecting policing. The conversation is dynamic, incorporating audience interactions through super chats and addressing various topics related to police conduct, media portrayal, and ethical responsibilities.

Recent Police Incident in Florida Panhandle

The episode kicks off with a detailed analysis of a controversial incident involving U.S. Army Rangers in the Florida Panhandle.

• Cameron Ellsworth Reports:

  "The U.S. army says those gunshots appear to be blanks. But the consequences are real. 18 soldiers with the 6 Ranger Training Battalion were temporarily decertified as instructors after allegedly firing blank rounds at a public beach." [03:08]

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Bradley minimizes the incident, comparing it to controlled environments like air shows where blanks are used safely.
  • Mike questions the sanctioning of such actions, stressing the importance of public safety.
  • Carl Anderson expresses disapproval, stating, "That's the type of behavior I would expect from guys that sign up to be Rangers." [04:17]

Police Responsibilities and Mental Health Calls

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the legal and moral obligations of police officers, particularly concerning mental health calls.

• Bradley Explains the Public Duty Doctrine:

  "Legally, there's no obligation for police to respond to 911 calls due to the public duty doctrine. It's up to the agency's policies." [10:46]

• Carl Anderson Elaborates:

  "If someone barricades and threatens others, action is necessary. But if someone is alone and potentially suicidal, involving police can escalate the situation needlessly." [13:10]

• Key Points:

  • Differentiation between legal obligations and moral responsibilities.
  • Importance of nuanced responses to prevent escalation in volatile situations.
  • Reference to personal experiences where lack of response led to tragic outcomes.

Internal Police Politics and Accountability

Carl Anderson shares his personal experiences with internal affairs and the challenges honest officers face within police departments.

• Carl Anderson on Disciplinary Systems:

  "The disciplinary system is weaponized. There's selective enforcement and a lot of unfairness." [72:42]

• Bradley on Whistleblowing:

  "The administration wants you to follow protocols without question, squashing anyone who challenges them." [76:13]

• Mike on Maintaining Integrity:

  "I've got a lot of haters. But I'm still your friend." [07:09]

Media and Public Perception of Police

The hosts critique how media and social platforms portray policing, emphasizing the disconnect between public image and on-the-ground realities.

• Bradley Criticizes Police Recruitment Videos:

  "Atlanta PD is making a mockery of police work with dancing and social media stunts while crime rates are high." [37:37]

• Carl Anderson on Social Media's Impact:

  "Social media is a weapon of mass destruction. It poisoned everything." [41:01]

• Discussion Highlights:

  • Misalignment between media portrayals and the harsh realities faced by officers.
  • Concerns over police departments focusing on image over substance in recruitment efforts.

Ethical Standards in Policing

A critical segment of the conversation addresses the ethical responsibilities of police officers, especially regarding their presence on social media and maintaining professionalism.

• Bradley Advocates for Strict Social Media Policies:

  "Agency policy should ban cops from using TikTok and other social media while on duty." [48:00]

• Carl Anderson on Professionalism:

  "People need to reflect on why they are engaging in social media – for validation or to spread a message." [48:31]

• Mike and Bradley Debate:

  • Importance of maintaining integrity and avoiding the intertwining of personal social media presence with official duties.

Police Departments and Recruiting Efforts

The hosts analyze specific police departments’ recruiting strategies, focusing on Atlanta PD’s unconventional approach as an example of misplaced priorities.

• Bradley Critiques Atlanta PD:

  "Atlanta PD is a war zone with dance fests that contradicts proper police work." [38:55]

• Carl Anderson on Recruitment Challenges:

  "The job has been so demoralized and recruiting is abysmal." [33:31]

Accountability and Reform

The discussion shifts towards the need for systemic reforms and greater accountability within law enforcement to address misconduct and improve public trust.

• Carl Anderson on Systemic Flaws:

  "Our justice system is flawed – it should rather run its course but needs reform to prevent misuse of power." [84:03]

• Bradley Encourages Documentation:

  "If you're getting harassed, document everything. It's not hearsay if you have records." [75:47]

Notable Quotes

• Carl Anderson on Honesty:

  "We have to tell the truth and not sugarcoat it." [83:07]

• Bradley on Female Officers:

  "Women should be cops, but they have to work harder and uphold the same ethical standards as men." [44:07]

• Carl Anderson on Social Media's Addiction:

  "It created an entire generation of narcissists that are limbically hijacked to seek validation and dopamine." [41:15]

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with further interactions, super chats, and discussions on upcoming projects. The hosts reiterate their commitment to exposing the truths about policing culture, supporting ethical officers, and fostering honest conversations about law enforcement challenges. They emphasize the importance of accountability, integrity, and the need for systemic reforms to ensure justice and public trust.

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Transcript

[Mike]

We are here Thursday night. Squadcast Thursday nights for the boys. We got Mike from Cotteville. We got Carl Anderson sitting with us as a guest. Former cop and a now a documentary guy.

[Carl Anderson]

Now I'm just honorably retired police captain for now.

[Mike]

All right, cool. And we got Bradley producing. Stick around. We got cop videos. We've got all kinds of videos. I guarantee you haven't seen at least one or two of them. They're pretty brutal. So stick around.

[Bradley]

We're going to.

[Mike]

We'll see you in a minute.

[Carl Anderson]

It.

[Mike]

Oh, it's Thursday.

[Bradley]

Here we are.

[Mike]

You weren't here last Thursday, right?

[Bradley]

I came and recorded early and then left. It was the first one I met. First one I missed. No, I didn't. Stay.

[Mike]

Okay. You got your skinny legs underneath the desk.

[Bradley]

They're hiding tonight. That episode's not available, is it? Did it come back?

[Mike]

No, no, no, no, no, no. That wasn't the one the Corey Mills went after you got taken out.

[Bradley]

Okay, that's right. All right, here I am hiding my legs.

[Mike]

What's up, guys? So again we got a bunch of what's the same insane cop videos to break down. Obviously the. The thumbnail over the night. What the. Were the Rangers doing? Engage with us in the comments. And then. Yeah. So first thing first, let's actually. Because I'm gonna forget about that topic. There's a YouTube video that kind of talks about it. Obviously because it's DoD related. There is not much information, but it is. It's. I guess from what I understand, they. It's a part of Florida where they train in. But we'll watch the video first.

[Bradley]

I think the bikinis got them excited.

[Cameron Ellsworth]

The video show an apparent uniformed American soldier pointing a rifle to the sky and opening fire in the Florida Panhandle's crowded waters. Incident happened last Friday just near Crab Island. But now these videos are circulating widely. And tonight the U.S. army says those gunshots appear to be blanks. But the consequences for the the soldiers are real. A military spokesman confirming to NBC News that 18 soldiers with the 6 Ranger Training Battalion were temporarily decertified as instructors after they allegedly fired blank rounds from their weapons at a public beach.

[Mike]

My group was freaks and they were freaked out.

[Cameron Ellsworth]

Charter boat captain Cameron Ellsworth says he witnessed the bizarre incident with several passengers. Ellsworth also says he took this photo which he says shows some soldiers chugging beers. Is there any explanation that could justify that behavior?

[Mike]

No. I mean, you could go out there and have a good time in your uniforms without shooting assault rifles into the Air now.

[Cameron Ellsworth]

As the investigation continues, the soldiers responsibilities remain unclear. Jesse Kirsch, NBC News.

[Carl Anderson]

Thanks for watching.

[Mike]

We on.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh my God. Okay, so first off, that is the type of behavior I would expect from guys that sign up to be rangers. I. We forget this. As a society, we usually keep our war fighters away from the public. I mean, in all intents purposes, when they're in uniform, they're not operating in the public. Which when you get stuff like this and somebody said maybe it was a bikinis. You said it was maybe that.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You get excited.

[Bradley]

Yeah. But here's. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I don't think it's a big deal.

[Mike]

I don't think it's a big deal.

[Bradley]

I think it's ridiculous. You go to an air show. Stuart air show. You go to a Stuart air show, you can shoot a.50 cal blank. You can shoot a. A machine gun blank. There's no danger. Nothing's gonna happen. I. I don't. I don't see the big deal. And then the news gets it. Oh my God. The danger. The. It's. It's blanks.

[Mike]

There was. There was like video of them chugging, like.

[Bradley]

Okay, that part. That one's not as smart. But the blanks I don't think is a big.

[Mike]

I think that that is worse than. I. It depends on if it was sanctioned or not. If it was a sanctioned thing that just the public got in the way like they crossed. That's different. I. But they won't release any information.

[Bradley]

I can't imagine they sanctioned them to drive around all the girls in bikinis. I can imagine that detour probably was unsanctioned.

[Mike]

What up, guys?

[Bradley]

I. I just. You can go to an air show and do it and there's civilians all around. There's people around. It's not going to hurt anybody. The beer to me is the worst look than the gun.

[Mike]

Really?

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

No, I think it's different. I think the beer looks.

[Bradley]

I think it's cool. I don't have a problem humanizing the tab. Huh?

[Mike]

So, yeah, we don't know anything about. That's all we know. And if anybody else knows anything about that, hit us up. Give us a $99 super chat. Just so we see it. You want to read the supers, Bradley?

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Got Timu, Jamie over here.

[Tyler]

This is the first one. Brady Pearson. My boys from Cheyenne PD met Brent in Nashville for the street cop training conference. I couldn't get the time off of work, but they picked me up for some FRCC Cigars Love what y' all do and stand for.

[Mike]

Nice. Yeah. Brent's in Nashville at the street cop conference. This is the first year I didn't go in Vend.

[Bradley]

I would have went.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

I don't actually Got caught by his bot. Street cops training. I went to message him about something, and the bot got me for soliciting me to go to that a couple months ago. It's hilarious. But, yeah.

[Mike]

I don't know. Me and Dennis have a weird relationship. I don't think he. I've been told from people that he doesn't think that I should have the success that I have. Not saying I don't bust my ass and shit. But he's like, you know, I think he tries to portray a certain thing and. But I like. He gets.

[Bradley]

I try to. I try to make my own assessment of everybody. He's done nothing wrong to me. I've had people come to me and I take that stand that just. Because Unless it's something super crazy, if you don't like somebody, I'm like, whatever. Like, he's been cool to me. I did a show, and I don't have any problem with him. But people say things, and I'm like, there's gonna be. Somebody's gonna say something about everybody.

[Mike]

So that's true. I mean, I have a lot of haters.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And you're still my friend.

[Bradley]

I have to see you not to be your friend.

[Tyler]

Or Evan J. Army isn't allowed to drink or shoot machine guns at a pirate fest in Florida. I'm sorry, Is this America? I thought this was America.

[Mike]

Exactly. That's the one place you can. I would think that the Rangers could.

[Bradley]

Roll up in a. I mean, they're Rangers, dude.

[Mike]

That's what I'm saying.

[Bradley]

Trained them to be maniacs. That's what they need to be.

[Mike]

That's what I'm saying is like, we've always talked about it, like, you don't want your leave it to Beaver dweeb signing up to go be a war fighter. You want guys that are. If you let them be bored, they're gonna do like this. That's why they're usually confined to a base.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Jim Lewis. So what's up with Congressman Corey Mills?

[Mike]

We still have not figured out, okay, it was given to us good information from a reliable source that they believe. One they believe 100 but they obviously could say they don't know for certain 100 that Corey Mills had his people contact YouTube and Google and have it taken down. And I know this because Tim Kennedy had our Tim Kennedy video, like, pretty much the most. He couldn't get it taken down, but it was. You have to sign into Google in order to watch it. It's age restricted. Like, we, you know, so we believe that that's what happened. Some people looked into it for us and they said, oh, it's because you have a link for FRCC cigars in the description. However, I don't know if I should say this. They're in every description of our. I copy and paste the YouTube descriptions from each episode. So I don't think it's that. I think Corey Mills had it taken down, but we don't know much other than the 30 minutes thesis sprint read last episode about how up this Corey guy is.

[Tyler]

All right, next one is Evan with $5. No message.

[Mike]

Oh, thanks.

[Tyler]

JSK with $10. Did you guys see the American manhunt on Osama bin Laden? If so, what did you think of Rob o' Neill's bit?

[Mike]

Someone sent that to me. I have not seen it yet, but I'll watch it. Is it on Netflix? Has anybody heard of that? Yeah, Netflix.

[Tyler]

That's the last one.

[Mike]

All right, let's do some video.

[Tyler]

Want to do Instagram or YouTube first?

[Mike]

Instagram.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

All right, so, yeah, just. We'll just go in order from the bottom.

[Tyler]

So this one first?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Everybody.

[Carl Anderson]

What.

[Tyler]

What are the legal ramifications by not going to a mental health call?

[Bradley]

Strictly speaking, legally, there is none because of something called the public duty doctrine, which you can look up, and if you're a police officer, just look up public duty doctrine in your state. It is a national standard which basically says the police don't have an affirmative legal obligation to protect third parties. So there is no such thing as a legal requirement to respond to 911 calls. It is very much in the purview of the agency, police, chief, sheriff, to say, we're not going to this call. We're not going to this type of call. Now, obviously, there's some moral obligations there, right? You may still have. The police have a moral obligation to try to render aid to mentally ill people who are not able to take care of themselves or potentially a threat to someone else. But that's a moral discussion. Your question is the legality of it. The legality of it is basically the public duty doctrine prevents that obligation.

[Tyler]

So can you explain to everybody?

[Bradley]

Mics are back on, so break it down, JoJo. Actually, my wife has said this for a long time about people saying, walk up to you and go, you're a Cop. You have to do something. You really don't really know people, anybody. Scott Peterson at Parkland did not go in. Yeah, he was found not guilty because he didn't commit a crime. He didn't do anything wrong. As far as the law goes, you don't have an obligation to go get killed or do anything, but your policy says you will. So the policy that your agency writes is you're going to respond to this call this way. You respond this. And if you run from a threat, you're going to. You're going to face consequences. But the law. There's no law that says you have to do a fucking thing. And that's what I think. People get confused because they think we have to do something.

[Mike]

I thought that was more for mentally ill.

[Bradley]

It's for everybody.

[Mike]

Because I know for, like, mentally ill people, we've kind of come to a conclusion in our culture that we're just. If we're gonna make it worse, we're not gonna be the bad guys.

[Bradley]

And that's simple. But I'm talking about crime. If you walk into a. Like a bank rot.

[Mike]

No, there's. In Florida, there's. There's. There's a crime for that.

[Bradley]

Scott Peterson was not guilty. The guy who didn't go in Parkland, he didn't get in trouble for anything.

[Mike]

I know, but I feel like there's a.

[Bradley]

The Supreme Court has ruled that you do not have to act in any situation.

[Mike]

What's the point of having cops?

[Bradley]

Because you have a moral. And a policy that says idiots like us decide to go do it anyway.

[Carl Anderson]

I think when it comes to mental health especially, I've seen a lot. I know Miami Dade county kind of moved away from that model of, oh, if they're a baker act, they're gonna go. But, you know, it makes me think of, like, the barricaded subject situations. And when you know somebody who's all by his lonesome, you know, inside of his house, saying he's gonna hurt himself or something like that, then he barricades the door. Look, at the end of the day, you know, if anybody wants to kill themselves, you know, everybody that's ever wanted to kill themselves is dead. You know, and at what point do you say, do you put cops in there and potentially escalate a very volatile situation, or do you try to talk them out? Do your. Do the best you can. But, you know, I think a lot of people are seeing these interactions with mentally ill people, and they're just needlessly escalated. And obviously, if they're A danger to the public. People got to take action. But if they're just all by themselves, you know, it's another story completely.

[Mike]

Yeah, there's like, like they've been like, oh, this person, like in Florida it's called the Baker act, right? Yeah.

[Bradley]

The issue is the special relationship. So you do. The doctrine is that if you, if that dude's over there going crazy and I haven't developed any dialogue with him and I haven't become part of his situation, I have no duty to do anything.

[Mike]

But you don't know, gone.

[Bradley]

That's like the guy in the house that's threatened. But if you go up to him and start to interact, hey, man, I'm going to get you help, you now own him. So there is your duty to act is now to get him help. But if on the surface and people are saying, oh, you have a badge and gun, I believe that, I believe we should get involved, that we should help everybody we can. That's what we signed up for. But the Supreme Court has said until you have a special relationship with that person. So if you're, if you, if your wife comes out, says, Tyler's in the house, going nuts, and I go, I'm not going in. He wants to go nuts. It's his house. I'm not getting involved. You need to do something. No, I don't. And you drive away. You do not have to get involved because you never legal. Legally.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

You never developed a special relationship. Now if I go to the door, knock on it, you come to the door, me and you start having some dialogue. And now I kind of bought you at that point. I'm bored now. You know, now you've created that relationship where now I have a little bit more I have to do. Still may not require entry or going. Because I know SWAT teams are not going those barricades anymore, criminal or non criminal barricades. But until you develop that special relationship with somebody, off you go.

[Mike]

Oh, man. I was just thinking about like when, when they're like, oh, we have to go Baker act somebody for their mental health. Right. So no. Well like, okay, so they call in like, oh, someone meets Baker at criteria, which means they can't think for themselves or they're a danger to themselves or danger to others. Right. So it's on law enforcement to take them against their will into custody for their own well being. However, there's been times where like, oh, he's, he's over there. Oh, he's taken off running. Like, would you want me to tackle him? You want me to hurt him?

[Carl Anderson]

And that's the difference between, like a Baker act, which is initiated by law enforcement, then you have the ex parte, which is issued by a judge.

[Bradley]

Then we do have to. Judge said, get him.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. Then you own it.

[Bradley]

Then you own it. Judging a doctor wants to. I believe even the doctor signs it. You own. Yeah, you have. But just you. You alone, without a special relationship with that person. I mean, we had a situation in ours where unfortunately we. We killed a lady with a knife in her house.

[Mike]

With a knife.

[Bradley]

No, she had a knife. She charged a deputy and he shot and killed her. But in today's world, with today's rules, we would not even have gone in there to try to calm her down. We would have been like, it's your wife.

[Mike]

You're the bad guy if you shoot her.

[Bradley]

And we did. And it's unfortunate, and thank God the deputy was cleared. But in today's world, it would be.

[Mike]

Oh, you got to think about the money we save in lawsuits, not engaging. Right. And I feel like, well, so there's two ways to look at it. There's. I'm going to take you into custody for your own well being. I cannot get in trouble for that. If even if it's determined, like, you didn't need it. I can't get in trouble for that. I. But I also can't get in trouble for not doing it.

[Bradley]

No. As long as there's no special relationship.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bradley]

Once you just establish that relationship where you've be begun the process of getting involved, you can't go, man. This is really complicated. I got lunch in 30 minutes. I'm out. Like, you can't do that. But if you don't get involved from the start, like, hey, that dude's having a crisis. We're not going to get involved. It comes back to, like, people arguing about the girl got her gun taken. Like, should we just let him go? You know, it's like, yeah, so don't answer. Don't answer the calls when they. Yeah, it's. And that's. I'm totally against that. I am. Put everybody in jail, take everybody. The hospital needs to go. But there is some point in today's world where that's no longer the avenue of approach.

[Carl Anderson]

Perfect example. Sonia Massie. Yeah, that was a disaster. And dude, that shit. And that's what concerns me so much.

[Mike]

They should have backed out.

[Carl Anderson]

That was, of course, like, once she says, no, I'm good. Like, yeah, she might be a little schizo. Yeah, that's not your Problem.

[Mike]

Or. Or she starts going for a hot boiling pan of water. Get out of there.

[Carl Anderson]

Get. Yeah, leave. Or you know what? Look, I can't speak for anybody else, but if I'm in a position where somebody might potentially throw a boiling pot of water in me and my only option is to shoot or take the boiling water. I'm sorry, Me, I'm gonna take the boiling water.

[Mike]

Oh, you are?

[Carl Anderson]

And then I'm gonna get my little combat. Or my little. What do you call it?

[Mike]

Combat.

[Carl Anderson]

My. My bronze star. Yeah, my bronze star. I'm gonna get a couple weeks.

[Bradley]

My problem with that one, my pro. And I think I said it a couple shows ago. We talked about this. My problem with that one is cops do not want to do reports or handle calls at the point where they were outside and she was like, no, I'm good. Never mind. I have no idea what in those cops brains went. What's your name, ma' am? We need to document this. Let's go in your house and talk to you. More like, usually dudes are like, let me get back on Snapchat or Instagram, I'm out of here. So I have no idea why they.

[Mike]

Because there's no crime. So even if you were trying to be proactive, that's not the place to do it. There's no crime there.

[Carl Anderson]

No.

[Mike]

Why are you trying to get a name?

[Bradley]

It just didn't make sense to me. Didn't make sense.

[Carl Anderson]

And it's those types of issues that, look, the public is reasonable, you know, they. They understand cops are human beings. But it's that type of. That's losing buy in from the public. Like that turns everybody off and like that. That is our worst enemy in law enforcement. It's those types of cops.

[Bradley]

That case still kind of went away. Yeah, but it's weird, but it just. No, no, no burnings, no, no, no riots. It just kind of.

[Mike]

Was she mentally ill?

[Bradley]

I mean, we don't.

[Mike]

We don't know.

[Bradley]

She was yelling about God and Christ and throwing pots.

[Carl Anderson]

It's 20, 25. Everybody's got some type of mental illness.

[Mike]

That's true.

[Carl Anderson]

It's like. It is what it is.

[Mike]

Yeah. Is there any more super chats before we go to the next video?

[Tyler]

We just got one more ghostland. $20. Tyler's got to be the king of one liners.

[Bradley]

He's pretty good.

[Mike]

Speaking of one liners, man, we had a. Some one liners today. So if you don't know, me and Mike own Counterculture, which is the media company that umbrellas A lot of podcasts, Anti Hero being one of them. So we. To promote the media company and say, and to gain some revenue, we created a YouTube channel. We created our own show on the YouTube channel that's gonna have like a lot of different podcasts on it. And one of them is just called Counterculture. And we sit on a fucking couch and. And I guess we've determined that we are just going to say the most like, like, what would you call them topics? Like, controversial.

[Bradley]

It sounds silly, but it's.

[Mike]

But they're not controversial where everyone's on our side. Like, we're like, oh, George Floyd wasn't murdered. Right. It's controversial. But all of our listeners are like, yeah, I can get behind that. Right? We talk about controversial things that fucking dissect everybody that listens to us.

[Bradley]

Yes, yes.

[Mike]

And they didn't like the one. What was it today? What was it?

[Bradley]

The. The. I'm not saying it. The.

[Carl Anderson]

The.

[Mike]

Bro, that's that.

[Bradley]

You, bro, that's that. Yeah. Hey, cops. I'm not saying anything else because I.

[Mike]

Know so many of them, I know so many vets that they're prime. Their prime was in 2009, when they were 22. It was the coolest thing they ever did. And now you got to hear about them 12, 15 years later, they're still. I got PTSD. And they're posting pictures of themselves 12 years ago with, like, rifles when they were ripped. And like, they're all anti cop. And, you know, it's like.

[Carl Anderson]

It's like Al Bundy talking about his high school football team. Yeah.

[Bradley]

What was his team? The Mustangs.

[Mike]

But the one liner we had today wasn't even from me. It was from your wife.

[Bradley]

I'm not saying it.

[Mike]

Ride the coat.

[Bradley]

I'm not. I'm not saying it. Trouble. You have to go watch the clip. And I. I agree with what she said because it didn't. It didn't mean what it sounded like.

[Mike]

It was clipped that way, though.

[Bradley]

It was very well edited by somebody I know to create controversy and a stir.

[Mike]

It worked.

[Bradley]

It did work. It did work.

[Mike]

All right, let's go to break.

[Tyler]

We just got one more.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Jim Lewis, $20. So Congressman, like ass Congressman Corey Mills gets a pass on stolen valorant. Green Beret Chronicles hammered this guy for a minute and 40 seconds. It appears Mills never deployed with DoD, never awarded BSM clearly violates stolen valor act 2013.

[Mike]

Yeah. So we're again, this is kind of Brent's Avenue when seals and green brace steel, you know, to me, they're all doing it. I don't know, but this is kind of Brent's thing. Like, he has the credibility to do it. He has the resources, sources to get the information. Like, he. And I asked him. I'm like, hey, because our. I would tell you, go reference the live stream. We did. It's still on the audio platform. So if you go to Squadcast Live 522 and you go all the way to the end of it, you can hear the breakdown. You don't need to see it. But the YouTube was taken down and. And, you know, that's where Brent went on, like, a 30 minute. Like. Like, he read it. It took 30 minutes to read it, but he read everything. And I was blown afoot. The away. This guy makes Tim Kennedy look like a real war hero. Like, I mean, this guy lied about everything.

[Bradley]

In today's world, there's so much fact checking. I don't understand. I don't understand. Like, you could do it on video, and people are like, no, I didn't do it. So how do you. I don't know how you can consciously think you're gonna slip it through these days and not. And somebody's gonna get sick of it and come forward and say, that guy's full of.

[Mike]

Yeah. Unfortunately, it stays like an echo chamber in our community, though, because, I mean, the fact that Tim Kennedy still has this long tab blows my mind. That's the first thing. It's the easiest thing the military does, is just go, all right, we're gonna punish this guy. Everybody good. Like. And I don't know if he's, you know, if he has, like, inner workings with the DoD and has deals cut to promote. I mean, I've seen some weird man where the army has weird deals with enlisted soldiers that, hey, you make the army look good. You bring in people. So maybe that's why. I don't know. Next video. What's this one? Oh, this is just. Somebody sent it to me. Remember this happened?

[Tyler]

Our mics are coming off.

[Mike]

Oh, there's more. Look at this.

[Bradley]

They just keep coming. Oh. Go inside, get inside, get inside.

[Carl Anderson]

Get inside.

[Mike]

Get in your house now.

[Bradley]

Let's go.

[Mike]

Light him up.

[Carl Anderson]

Go inside now.

[Bradley]

Get in the house. Get in, get in, get in, get in, get in, get in, get in. Ah. That hurt.

[Mike]

You good?

[Bradley]

Are you okay?

[Mike]

Right on the crotch. Are you okay?

[Bradley]

You got hit? I'm good.

[Mike]

They're for that dude.

[Bradley]

What?

[Mike]

Okay. Are we on?

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Mike]

All right.

[Bradley]

Wow.

[Mike]

Okay, so first off, we have not fixed the issue again. We just built out Our studio even more. We just dumped, like, a lot of money. I probably shouldn't say that because somebody comes in and steals everything. But we're still working out some kinks. So in order to not have an echo on the videos we watch until we can figure this out, which we will. We can't talk over them. But anyways, may not be bad. Yeah, right. But that blows my mind that those are the super soldiers that we just talked about. When everybody leaves the job who can think for themselves, you're gonna have those people left.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. And, you know, there's a book called Ordinary Men. Have you heard of. Basically recounts the. The Nazi.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's how they started. They were.

[Carl Anderson]

And it's like, people. When you're in the machine, it's really hard to, like, kind of think outwardly, because bureaucracies really lead to tyrannies, you know, because we all remember the COVID nonsense and the COVID hysteria. And I remember the calls coming in. I remember the Karen saying, oh, I'm outside family barbecue. Yeah. I'm outside a department store. And these people. People aren't social distancing. And I would. I would. Was the supervisor hearing these calls come in? I said, no, we're not. We're not going to that.

[Bradley]

You remember seeing, like, the. Your family member went peacefully. We're sorry. Like, their people were dying in the hospital, and they wouldn't let their family in to see them die, you know, But I remember seeing nurses holding up signs, like, on the third floor.

[Carl Anderson]

My mom died in 2020, and it was the most miserable experience having. She died from COVID No, she died from cancer. But the apparatus, the medical industrial complex just stonewalled my brothers and I. My brother and I's attempts to actually, like, spend time with her, like, as she was in the hospital, it was. It tore us apart.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

You know, and I hope that people have learned their lesson after that charade. And we never put up with that again. I'm never wearing a mask again. I'm never standing six feet apart. Like, I will. You know, like, that type of people in government need to have the balls to step up and say, no, this is. Yeah, so. And like every cop, every soldier, every. Like, they need to have their. Their line in the sand, you know, like that.

[Mike]

When will you turn in your badge?

[Carl Anderson]

Exactly. At what point?

[Mike]

And everybody's is different.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, it really is.

[Mike]

I talk about that all the time, you know, there you have to have your line drawn to where. If you're ever forced to do that. And A lot of cops, I think it, like, it's gun confiscation, that that's where they would be. Like, okay, no, I. Obviously, I'm not gonna go die. And second, it's the second amendment. A. I own tons of guns. Like, I just don't. But, like, the COVID restrictions, I think, was where we started seeing, like, what a pension could do to somebody. And I. And I've always said this, and people are like, fuck them. But you're a cop. You're 19 years into a 20 year retirement, and this happens your whole family.

[Bradley]

I was in the gym when they came and the cops came and shut it down. I was working out your gym down. Well, yeah, they closed everything in Florida. Yeah, I was in the gym and guys I worked with because I was off came and like, threatened the gym owner and made us all leave. And I was an employee of the gym, so I have worked for the owner.

[Mike]

Your watch commander and your chain of command allowed that because ours wouldn't touch that. No, they were like, we're not. Because they were smart enough to know at the end of this federal thing, there could be a lot of lawsuits.

[Bradley]

They came and shut the fucking gym down. I was in it made us get out.

[Mike]

You friends with these guys?

[Bradley]

Not anymore. I mean, I. I don't know if I was friends with them. Then I worked. I thought that we were friends, but I worked with them. But it was. The funny story is that some idiot asked to borrow a bunch of weights while the gym was closed, and the gym owner told him no. So he called. It was like, hey, their gym is open over there. Not supposed to be open, but, yeah, they threw us out the gym. I got suspended for not wearing a mask. I. I held on to the very end and.

[Mike]

Well, you know who goes hard on Covid is my wife's podcast. She's been, like, restricted and taken down, and I'm like, babe, like, you can't go that hard in the paint. Like, I mean, we talk about some wild. But even I know what to not talk about in order for the chat.

[Bradley]

That was my. I was supposed to do legs that day when they shut it down for Covid.

[Mike]

That's why.

[Bradley]

And I haven't gotten back to it.

[Mike]

Just have not gotten back to love.

[Bradley]

You got back to leg day.

[Mike]

That makes sense.

[Bradley]

Yeah, I was just about to do legs that day, and then Covid.

[Mike]

But, yeah, I'm scared it'll happen again.

[Bradley]

So I just skip it.

[Mike]

The newest. The newest addition to counterculture is the unfiltered and unpaid Unfazed podcast. It's the counterculture to female style podcasting. So if you guys go give them a follow, we'd really appreciate it. And tell your wives, listen to it.

[Bradley]

And always put your wife up.

[Mike]

Put your wife up.

[Bradley]

If they don't listen, remember, put your wife up.

[Mike]

And then a little self promotion. Our big show on counterculture is dropping June 17th with Taylor Kavanaugh and Jimmy Watson called the Other than Honorable podcast.

[Bradley]

I'm excited for that one.

[Mike]

So that's gonna be a wild dude.

[Bradley]

They get me excited. Just what, like, talking about, like, they're so wound up.

[Mike]

Like, individually, I get.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like, I was like, dude, how have these people. How has somebody not paired these two up? And it's the distance. It's. It's the fact that Jimmy now lives in Miami, Taylor lives in California. And I was like, we can break that logistical barrier. Trust me. And we did. So be on the lookout for that. Any more supers?

[Tyler]

We just got one from Tim Huns. $10. The left is simultaneously trying to enact more strict gun laws against law abiding citizens. Citizens, while also saying police have no duty to respond and protect the public. Broward, Coward, Peterson.

[Bradley]

Yeah, it's scary, man.

[Mike]

Well, okay. I mean, do you think that we're gonna shut down again as a nation, like we did the first time?

[Bradley]

Like, no, not in the next three years. Not in the next three years. Trump's not doing it.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

Whatever happens after him.

[Mike]

But do you think we would, like, I mean, like, people's entire family?

[Bradley]

I think businesses. I think it would depend on your government, your governor. I think, like, what was it, Maine or something? Didn't follow the rules with the transgender. And Trump called her out. Yeah, I think Minnesota would do whatever they said. I think Texas, Florida wouldn't stand for that. So I think it's going to be governor dependent on who is in charge. Then you have the local agencies try to do it and, like, your Democrat cities. But, like, Desantis wouldn't put up with that.

[Mike]

No.

[Bradley]

So. And I don't think Abbott in Texas.

[Mike]

Would put up with it. I'm talking about, like, like, business owners. Like, because there's two levels of. There's defending your business against, like, rioters, and then there's defending your business against authority and law coming to shut your down. Not saying that you have to actively engage them in combat, but to say no, you're gonna have to. And that one famous gym owner in New York, Ian, I don't remember, but he got dragged out and you know, he was an icon for that. Like, you're not. You're gonna have to. You're dragged me out of the business I built with my bare hands. You're not shutting me down.

[Bradley]

I think. I think this time around, you would see more of that. Yeah, everybody got duped on the first one. Everybody saw the bullshit. It was a political stunt. It was a social experiment. I think your majority of business owners would stay open and they wouldn't shut down.

[Carl Anderson]

What got the people last time was the hive mind effect. It was everybody converging on this. Oh, take the shot, stay indoors, wear the mask. All the celebrities, all the bots on the Internet and like, people can't handle that. They can't handle that, that, that social pressure. So.

[Bradley]

But they fumbled. They fumble.

[Carl Anderson]

But what happens is one person. All it takes is one person who, you know, lets everybody. Lets everybody know that, hey, the water's warm. You know, you don't. You don't have to put up with this. And it's contagious. People see acts of, look, don't. Don't overthrow your government, but assert your rights. You know, the people. We started a war for a lot less.

[Bradley]

Their peak was Covid. The Democrat peak was Covid. They got the nation to submit. Then they fumbled everything. They had never imagined Trump was going to win again. Yeah, they blew it with the disinformation. They blew it with Hunter Biden. They blew all these things where the country went, these motherfuckers are full of shit. Everything they say is a lie. And it swung all the way back to where I wholeheartedly believe the majority of the nation would not listen to that. And I don't think that I would pray that the cops would be smart enough to not follow suit either and be like, look, dude, fire me. I'm not. I'm not enforcing that. I'm not doing it like it's. We. We saw it. Until people start dropping dead like walking dead and start walking around like zombies, I think we learned that the government's capable of lying to you on a mass level. And it's. And you as a constitutional officer, that works for the people, not for the agency of the government. You work for the people. At some point, you have to make a decision, do what's best for the people, and take a stand.

[Mike]

Carl, what were we talking about there? When you said you're talking, I was like, hold on, let's save it for the podcast. I already forgot.

[Carl Anderson]

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. You were talking about. Or do I talk about your plans.

[Mike]

We talk about general plans for people like cops.

[Carl Anderson]

Okay.

[Mike]

Like being stuck to the job.

[Carl Anderson]

Look, I. This is going to be a long winded explanation, but this job has been so demoralized and the recruiting is abysmal.

[Mike]

It's bad. They don't tell you. Yeah, you have to be an after cop to see it.

[Carl Anderson]

And it's, it's, it's heartbreaking.

[Bradley]

And.

[Carl Anderson]

What. Look, I'm not trying to badmouth anybody, but the people like us that, you know, started this job 20 some odd years ago because we, like, that was a calling for us, like we wanted to do that job. Those people don't exist anymore. No, because as far as they're concerned, that job doesn't exist anymore.

[Bradley]

Or they don't know it. They don't even know that job.

[Carl Anderson]

Exactly.

[Bradley]

They don't know that version of the job.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, they see, they see the LGBTQ liaison on the police department.

[Bradley]

Lapd. Transgender unit.

[Carl Anderson]

Exactly.

[Mike]

The illegal immigrant.

[Carl Anderson]

Listen, I'm not bashing that stuff, but I am. The fact is, is that, you know, law enforcement is inherently a fighting force that is tasked with engaging in violence on behalf of the citizens, to uphold law and order. Yeah. You know, but we, we, we, we cover that part up, you know, on, on their social medias and everything like that. So I think, you know, they don't make cop propaganda movies anymore. They don't make the Beverly Hills Cop. They don't make the 21 Jump street that. That time. So this job.

[Mike]

But they're so Hollywood. Like, it's almost like everybody's gay in it.

[Bradley]

They're all gay. The whole force is gay. It's like, oh, okay, here's a new show.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. So. But this job is no longer palatable for a certain type of person that. Who, who, who saw this career as a calling.

[Bradley]

Did you see the Atlanta video? I posted a. Of the hiring in Atlanta when they got hired, probably. Which account is that?

[Mike]

What.

[Bradley]

What account is. Would I have to send it to?

[Mike]

Send it to me so I can send it to. But yeah, I mean, we were talking about having a game plan. Like, like if you are a cop and you cannot see yourself happily retiring and you've got a long way to go, you need to get the fuck out. And you need to start your game plan now, because it's gonna take two to three years to get the fuck out. If you want to do it a clean transition, you got to go get some kind of education. A lot of guys are going to get in their cyber security degrees and they're going to work for banks for six figures, you know, well, we, we.

[Carl Anderson]

Need to put the pressure on the police departments because we need to have an honest conversation in this country. The media we can't rely on to tell anything accurately. Okay. The police departments are trying their best and the people that make up police departments are incredible hard working people. But the, like the left, and I'm going to categorize everybody that attacked the police as left wing lunatics. They succeeded in demoralizing this job to the point where the only cops that you're going to see now are bureaucrats with guns. Armed bureaucrats that don't, aren't proactive. Don't you know, they show up, they collect their, their paycheck and their Ben and their, their benefits and they do the bare minimum.

[Bradley]

So somebody made an interesting comment. Like the podcasts are going to be your news source because the news is not going to tell you the truth anymore. Of course they're going away from it. So this, and that's what counterculture was. We're going to tell you the truth and they're going to try to suppress it, but we are going to tell you the truth. We're not going to sugarcoat it.

[Mike]

Trying to have a legit news show, but it's really hard.

[Bradley]

It is, it is. But because they don't want the truth out, they like this recruiting video or this hiring video I just sent you, like it's, they're. And Izzo is huge on it. They are, they're just making it like a, like a, like a show, like rap music and songs and dancing and everything's about like social media and nobody's thinking like, Atlanta PD does this video. The fucking people are probably getting Swiss cheese in the hood while that video is being made. And they're not worried about that. They're worried about just bringing in bodies and it's become a national problem.

[Mike]

Let's watch it go to Instagram. Go to the bottom.

[Bradley]

This is Atlanta Police Department. Right there. Bottom one down, right there. Next one down, next one down.

[Mike]

Is it not working? Oh, there.

[Bradley]

Atlanta pd, you've been hired. Atlanta pd, you've been hired.

[Mike]

Atlanta pg, you've been hired.

[Carl Anderson]

Atlanta pt, you've been higher.

[Mike]

Atlanta pg, you've been hired. Atlanta PC, Atlanta, you've been hired.

[Bradley]

Are you kidding me?

[Mike]

Like I'm surprised they have a white chief in Atlanta.

[Bradley]

Izzo is right. And he's right all the time. It's a cultural thing that they're changing the entire culture of law enforcement.

[Mike]

If you ever have all Your fat HR ladies in the hallway doing that.

[Bradley]

This is Atlanta, dude. It's like war zone. Like, every pit video, GSP Atlanta, Cobb county, all these problems. Murder. It's a dump. And this is what's going on at the police department. I was just there. It's a. They have cameras in everything. Yeah, they have to.

[Mike]

It's a dump just to say can solve crime.

[Bradley]

This is nuts, dude. This is. This is the. That's a liberal city in a state that's going back and forth with each election. They're trying to flood it with nonsense. And if you get a chance to watch Cop Talk with Dominic Gizzle, he breaks that. That down. What's going on right there? Everybody's fat, everybody's out of shape. It's a big dance fest. Oh, by the way, you're going to go out two days from now, somebody's going to try to kill you. Is anybody in that hallway look ready for that? Anybody. Nobody in that hallway.

[Mike]

They're going to do that for when they. When they wheel you out for your funeral. You retired.

[Bradley]

Three weeks and he's dead. Ret. Three weeks and he's dead. Like, what is that? The.

[Mike]

That's the clip on Instagram.

[Bradley]

So that is what is happening. I just lost my mic.

[Mike]

Okay?

[Bradley]

That's what's happening, and it's happening right in front of us. If you live in Atlanta, you should be terrified to go outside with that type of behavior at a police department. I'm not saying don't have fun and there's not a place for it, but that's not it, man. That's not. That's not police work. That's not cop work. That's not what the. The.

[Mike]

The come. 2025, baby.

[Bradley]

No, that was. It's out of control, dude. And. And it's just. That's one place. And you notice it's always the places where everything's all up. You don't see that in, like, Grady Judd's not doing that over in Polk County. Like, it's not happening in places like that. It's happening in big cities where they can't get anybody to work. So what do we do? We make a mockery of it. And we get people to think that's what police work is. You come to work every day and we. We do a parade for you in the hallway. So come work for us. Never mind that. You know, the Crips and Bloods are out there firing rounds at each other, and you're gonna get your head taken off.

[Carl Anderson]

Social media is A weapon of mass destruction. I'm convinced of it. It poisoned everything.

[Mike]

That's a very strong statement.

[Carl Anderson]

I stand by it.

[Bradley]

100 I do as well.

[Carl Anderson]

I think you created an entire generation of narcissists that are. That have been limbically hijacked to be.

[Mike]

Addicted to their dopamines now are all up.

[Carl Anderson]

Exactly.

[Mike]

They have to have that high.

[Carl Anderson]

Yes. They can't unplug.

[Mike]

Not everybody can have a real come out that day and get 40000 likes. All right guys, come on. My dopamine levels.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, but it's true. You know, it is an addiction in the same way that you see somebody that is an alcoholic, somebody that's, you know, £400, somebody that's on pills. Social media is an addiction or the, the need for validation and, and, and comments and likes from strangers on the Internet.

[Bradley]

I called a chick out on my story yesterday who I watched go through the academy making tiktoks. Not even graduated yet. And within under six months I knew it was coming. She is driving in her uniform with no seatbelt doing a song. And the song is actually trying to advocate for women being cops. Two something. Whatever the song saying. I'm thinking that is the reason we say women shouldn't be cops. You're driving with no seat belt. You have a filter on that. We wouldn't even recognize you on a milk carton if you went missing. And you're. You're breaking the law actively on camera for your whole, for the whole world to see.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

And I call them out. I mean I'm to the point where if you're not going to stop that behavior on your own because that behavior does nothing for law enforcement. I'm not saying be a robot, have fun.

[Mike]

Her driving is a danger in itself, let alone being on the phone too.

[Bradley]

And, and, and recording and filtered to where she doesn't even recognize herself on the phone. And at a really good agency. I'm not gonna say it on here but it was a really good agency. And I contacted Marietta. Marietta Police Department. Marietta, Georgia. Great place. They, they were the initial. They were the founder of like Jiu jitsu training in house. They pioneered it. But very squared away agency. And it's like I got a lot of messages from guys from that agency going dude, what the. Like I can't believe this. It's like, well then you, you guys have an obligation to go say something to her, tell her to stop. Shouldn't be me state away.

[Carl Anderson]

I think it's up to the competent women in this job to call them. And what I'll say is this. I got hired 20 years ago by a female police chief, was trained by female FTOs, was supervised by female sergeants. I worked with, like, bad ch. Badass chicks that were competent. They knew their job. But the type of woman that we've allowed into this profession. And it's a. It's a result of social media.

[Bradley]

Yes.

[Carl Anderson]

Has changed.

[Bradley]

Yes.

[Carl Anderson]

Okay. And I. The girls that I still talk to, they call that shit out.

[Bradley]

Yes.

[Carl Anderson]

They hate it.

[Bradley]

I feel bad. I still stand. Women should be cops. I feel bad because 14 women, there's going to be a very low percentage that are effective. Just like men. We have a high percent. Yeah, it's what Low. The actual. The really good cops is way lower than how many men there are. But because women are so low, there are a group of females that have dirty fingernails. They wear very little makeup. They don't have lashes. They don't have. They train, they shoot, they rap, they do jiu jitsu. They do the hard work. They get jobs as canines. They get. And then you have an entire. The other 13 and a half percent is dancing around and making a mockery of that job. And it just looks so much worse when the smaller population has so many people doing the dumb. And that's what the women cop issue is.

[Mike]

The. As Jojo.

[Bradley]

Yeah, it's. It is. And I feel bad because. And I'm glad that the. The females have seen that I'm on their side. I'm on that 1% side of females who are busting their butt. But somebody's got to tell the other 13, get the out of here. Because it's hard for. I get it. It's hard for other women because if you know Jojo Carhill, you say it now. Oh, you're a woman hater. You're a woman and you don't support us. I'll say it like Izzo was right. This is a dangerous thing. And if you're not going to take the job serious dancing in Atlanta is wrong. Dancing on camera is wrong. Not training is wrong. And you're already at a disadvantage physically by nature of God, you are at a physical disadvantage over a man. A fat, sloppy man is going to be stronger every single day. So you have to work harder. I think you have a place in this job, but you have to work harder.

[Carl Anderson]

And I'll say this too, like, you know, when I was. I started it five days after my 21st birthday, I was an idiot. I had no idea what I was Doing I, you know, I had my head up my ass. I had giant ego. Yeah. I started this job before I should have, like, quite frankly, like, people aren't ready for that. 19 In Florida, I had the, I had the, the, the dudes, the competent dudes that would chew my ass out. And then I had the women that would take a more like, like a mommy role.

[Mike]

Yeah. You know, and there's Lifetime place.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. And I think that that dynamic is necessary in this job a hundred percent. But the feminine can't come at the expense of the masculine because we've elevated the feminine in this profession beyond a reasonable degree at the expense of the masculine.

[Bradley]

Well, what happens is, and Izzo says this is we peacock for the females.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

So we as men take them under our wing or we're there to defend them. And the bad ones get protected by us because it's our nature as men to protect the female. And I think that has caused an over overlooking the deficiencies. And I'm not bashing women cops. I'm saying that they have to work harder and that men are just as much to blame by allowing that to happen and giving kudos or props, whatever you want to use. A lot of the videos you see, they say just, well, she showed up and she didn't run away. Like, I didn't know that was an option. I didn't know that was in the cards, like running away from a scene. So a lot of that. Or they're shooting crazy and they're like, well, she shot. Well, yeah, she shot.

[Mike]

And as long as much as I love on female cops. Just kidding. Just joking.

[Bradley]

You do. I have the clips to prove.

[Mike]

We got to go to the super chats before we lose them.

[Tyler]

All right, so, Joe Saunders, $5. What is the dance and track when you have been fired?

[Bradley]

I'll do it later. I was doing a little bit of it.

[Mike]

Oh, we have one before that though. Gina. Yeah.

[Tyler]

$10. Eric Prince is headed to Haiti to clean up over there.

[Mike]

Haiti.

[Bradley]

Haiti. It's right up same island.

[Mike]

Yeah, that. Yeah. Maybe we should send him to Atlanta in the dancing track where you have been fired.

[Bradley]

That was. They're saying what's the Atlanta dancing When you get fired, we'll have to come up with one.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

I have to make up a dance. You're fired. Highway to hell. I don't know.

[Mike]

Atlanta PD. You're fired.

[Bradley]

Atlanta ATL.

[Tyler]

Next one is Matt for $10. Patreon member here. Keep up the good work, fellas.

[Mike]

Thanks, Matt. Appreciate it. Appreciate your support on Patreon Yeah.

[Tyler]

Brits defund dancing cops. The mentality that promotes being bottom.

[Bradley]

I'm for banning Tick Tock for cops. The agency policy. Agency policy should be day one.

[Mike]

We'll never get that.

[Bradley]

It should. It's simple, dude.

[Carl Anderson]

No. No uniforms, no department equipment. Look, you're not going to stop these kids from talking about not.

[Mike]

They don't know what social media. They don't have a life without social media. They've never had one.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, you're not gonna, you're not gonna go there, okay? Let them have their social. Let them meet and talk about cop stuff. But what I tell people all the time is what are you doing it for? Are you getting it for Val? Are you doing it to get validation and clicks and likes and all that stuff? Or are you doing it to spread a message, teach a lesson?

[Bradley]

What about.

[Mike]

Okay, I mean, what about none of those? What if you sell? What if it's a cell product or hustle?

[Bradley]

Even worse. Even worse.

[Mike]

Even worse.

[Bradley]

Fired. You fired?

[Carl Anderson]

Fired.

[Bradley]

What the.

[Carl Anderson]

Yes.

[Mike]

No. So they. So they're not allowed to promote a side business.

[Bradley]

No.

[Carl Anderson]

With their uniform.

[Bradley]

No. Not on. Nope. Nope.

[Mike]

No. No, no. No if, ands or buts. No. Nothing.

[Bradley]

No, that's like going into getting your. That's going in demanding a free meal because you're in, you know, I'm. I'm your hero. I need a free meal. So you buy this too.

[Mike]

You can't use. Okay, so what if you don't use your agency badge but you use effect?

[Bradley]

Are you talking about the dudes that run out with their police, their Amazon?

[Mike]

I've been selling at the cop forever. But mostly you're not.

[Bradley]

You're not doing it. No, it's. That's different. You're not driving around your car all day soliciting business. Instead of doing your job, you're working and you happen to have this on the side. So that is an intertwining of your career and your out of work job. That's like if you have a lawn business. Like if you have a lawn business and you're a cop and you're. Hey, you know, by the way, I cut grass, you get business because, hey, I want a cop to cut my grass. I trust him more. But you're not like on duty all day driving around handing out cards with that.

[Mike]

Or you could drive and you could be on Tick Tock and you can go look at this person's lawn. That's criminal. Go to my business.

[Bradley]

No, no, no, you can't do that. That is wrong it is wrong to leverage your badge for any personal gain. Your job is to enforce the law and to help. To help people. Your job is to help you discounts. I don't. That's. That's common.

[Carl Anderson]

Look, I think, I think this generation.

[Bradley]

Chicken fillet detectives putting their bags on.

[Mike]

For the first time all day.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

I think this generation needs a refresher and ethics training. We need to. Because that, that type of like the, the free meals and that like we are our own worst enemy because somebody goes out of their way to say, oh, I'll point five you like the rule of thumb is if you go somewhere and you're in uniform, don't be flashing your badge like a douchebag trying to get free. But if you're in. So go somewhere and you're in uniform and somebody just adds it to say thank you. Tip them well. That's it.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

Okay. But you have people. I remember Popeyes used to point. Oh, like they used to give us free food.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

And then some guy from I think it was Miami Dade county showed up off duty in his personal car, got food for. For his entire family, paid nothing and left. Like we are our own worst enemies.

[Mike]

The car washes that try to give us free car washes. As soon as word gets out and there's 27.

[Carl Anderson]

Oh yeah.

[Mike]

Every day are getting the car washed. Every day though it was the second.

[Bradley]

A cop hears about a free meal or free something. There's 50 cops there. But it's a smart business moving the business owner because you can't get robbed when there's 20 fucking cars. Cop cars in your parking lot.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

When I first started my, my original sergeant 2001, he knew every spot in town that like got rid of their food at the end of night. Fast food. So he'd pull up to you and he was a big guy. He'd have three buckets of KFC, 40 whoppers. He would just go around the restaurants and collect up all the food.

[Mike]

Serious. Every day.

[Bradley]

Every night. Every night. Working the night shift. Every night he'd pull up with all the fucking food that was left over for the rest of the night. And he just did it. I was £400, so he was doing something. £400 genius, but still alive. But I'm gonna take this stand. If you wanted to clean up law enforcement off the rip and get rid of majority of the candidates that are in it for the wrong job. Eliminate social media on duty.

[Mike]

So you think that, so you, so you think that people should have to take that kind of a cut. Personally, what is the cut?

[Bradley]

You're not holding your breath.

[Mike]

The rest of society is allowed to have sex.

[Bradley]

Fine.

[Mike]

You're not going to get cops in the door that.

[Bradley]

You're going to get guys that don't have that. You're going to get guys that adrenaline.

[Mike]

They'Re going to do. If they go, if they come up to me and say, tyler, you can't have social media. What do you think's going to happen? Or anybody like me?

[Bradley]

I'm talking about new hires. I'm talking about starting a trend.

[Mike]

So I'm grandfathered in.

[Bradley]

You're grandfathered in. Plus you're, you're my.

[Carl Anderson]

Starting now.

[Bradley]

You're my business partner, so you, you can keep it. But no, honestly, if you started right now and said from May 29, 2025.

[Mike]

Can'T have tomorrow, can't use it on.

[Bradley]

Duty, and you can't do anything and.

[Mike]

You'Re going to uniform, how would they know?

[Bradley]

When you get reported, you get slammed and they enforce it and they go, hey, you were making.

[Mike]

So as long as you don't put videos of yourself in uniform, you're good.

[Bradley]

We're telling you not to do it. That's a. Just like we're telling you not to rob a banker, take bribes on duty. We're. We're asking you to. Not to do things. So we have a little integrity in this job. So as a leader, I would say, hey, let's use this integrity thing. You're a cop. We swore you in.

[Mike]

But I'm sick of losing everything because I'm a cop. I don't get to have that. I don't get to do this. I don't get to say that because.

[Bradley]

They ruined it.

[Carl Anderson]

Here's the trade off. Cops should be able to say whatever the fuck they want off duty. Yeah, whatever. They. Anything goes. Okay. Without any care in the world. So long as you're not representing the batch. Yeah, yeah, okay. That, that should be the standard First Amendment. And it gives me like, these guys that use their, their, their career as leverage to, you know, sell a product or build up an audience. You know, it gives me the vibe of like the guy who, like unsolicitedly or who, who gives you, like, his war stories. Unprompted just tells you how great he is and everything. Like, you know, that's where a little bit of stoicism comes into play. It's like, bro, if you have to tell people you're that guy.

[Bradley]

Exactly.

[Carl Anderson]

You're not that fucking.

[Bradley]

So if you're not anything but a cop in uniform. On social media. You're a. You have no life.

[Carl Anderson]

Exactly.

[Bradley]

No life. You offer society nothing. Listen, because you have no life. And you did this for. I watched a video of a lady other day, some idiot in like Oklahoma. Female. Her husband's a cop. They're both morons. They make stupid videos. She actually made a video of how to become an influencer on duty. She started with check your pal and she's got a real weird chick. Check your policy. Make sure you get a step two. Make sure. And make sure you post very frequently. Three or four, five, six times a day. So her second advice is to post all day and it's on duty. She's giving advice to cops, how to grow your business on duty. And she is making a video telling that's bullshit. She should be fired. Fired.

[Carl Anderson]

This is my take. People don't have to agree with me. But I think the moment a good cop becomes a great cop is when he stops letting the badge be part of his identity.

[Bradley]

Correct.

[Carl Anderson]

Like be your own self actualized human being. Like have your ethics, have your morals and conduct yourself as though you are a upstanding citizen with arrest powers. That. That should be the standard that I hope people, you know, lean towards. But when you leverage your badge, you leverage your position or you tell your war stories. Dude, that's cringe. I'm sorry. It. You know, people need to grow out of that.

[Bradley]

I agree.

[Mike]

All right, super chats then sponsors White.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

The up john with a hundred bucks in there. Soul Fly. That's our closeout song as of now.

[Tyler]

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[Bradley]

That would be a good one. We got if we'll do it.

[Mike]

Yeah. Cotville. Because the only reason why we say that is because logistically getting people here, it's. It's a lot. Copville does great interviews, gets the best stories and yeah, we'll.

[Bradley]

Yeah. You get in touch with me, Ricky.

[Mike]

How. All right. Message. Cotteville locked up a copy or copille at Cotville.

[Bradley]

OG or that's fine. Just DM me. I answer all my dms and say, I'm Ricky. Yeah, I'll talk to you.

[Tyler]

And then Joe Saunders. Last one with $5. Tyler, do us A favor and drop your wife's podcast in the description. I couldn't catch it fast enough to sub to it. Thanks.

[Mike]

I'll drop it right here in the comments. I appreciate it.

[Bradley]

Guys, before we go to the break, I'm wearing my justice for Sal Elradi shirt. If you could pull that Pipe Hitter foundation up. This is Eddie Gallagher and Andrea Gallagher, who jumped right on this and assisted Sal and his family. And with financial support, he is indicted up in New Jersey for a bullshit incident where he had to use force and take someone's life. Completely justified. It's one of the worst cases you ever read about if you go there and check it out. Thank Eddie and Andrea Gallagher for taking this case immediately. You can go there and donate on Pipe Hitter. They have shirts as well. He's become a dear friend, him and his family. They're great people. And I thank Eddie and Andrea Gallagher and the Pipetter foundation for helping out.

[Mike]

First off, the amount of awesome people involved in this, like Eddie and Andrea are amazing, amazing, amazing. Like people. People want to. I don't know why they want to hate on a so bad.

[Bradley]

I mean, he didn't know me from anybody and now he's. I talk to him anytime I respond, he text him, he responds, Andrea responds.

[Mike]

They're just great people, great people. And then the. The oldraddies. How's that? He's saying all droughties. Yeah, Amazing people.

[Bradley]

Amazing. The nicest. It gives me goosebumps, man. They're just the best, best people. And to watch them go through this for something that is absolutely justified, it blows my mind. And it just scares me for cops going forward.

[Mike]

You know what I think we do? We go. We take a. We take a road trip in this astro van I'm gonna buy and we go to this office and we stand outside. We demand to talk to him until we're trespassed, until we refuse to leave and we go to jail for the day. I'm gonna bring some light. I'm in light to this situation. I think we're kidding. I'm only had half a beer. I'm dead serious.

[Bradley]

Yeah, I think it's. It's that important to see. And when Eddie saw it, he couldn't believe it. Like he immediately responded to me and was on. He couldn't believe how fucked this dude got. And it's just the worst story. But it should. It should be brought to national attention. If anybody has a connection with anybody on that level. This is the king of injustice cases I've ever. It's pretty Looked at, it's the worst. It is absolutely the worst.

[Mike]

He was. His parents came on Anti Hero. His parents were on Copville.

[Bradley]

Yep.

[Mike]

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[Mike]

You had to take a piss? Sorry, I didn't know. No one knew what button to push to bring it back on.

[Bradley]

We got it all figured out.

[Mike]

Ah, all right, so a couple other things.

[Bradley]

Let me show them. Everybody wants to see the way those things.

[Mike]

Oh, you gotta get. You gotta get more in front of the camera. No. Oh, good. Put them in. Oh, yep, there you go.

[Tyler]

Or go towards the couch maybe.

[Mike]

No, I don't. So we did Pipe Hitters. Carl, first off, they can find your episode with Copville on his podcast.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay. Do you have any. We're gonna look at a snippet of your YouTube video. So you have a documentary about you.

[Carl Anderson]

Yes, sir.

[Mike]

Okay, we're gonna catch snippet of that. First thing we got to do is. Sorry guys, I was ill prepared for.

[Tyler]

This, but someone said all we saw was the camel toe.

[Bradley]

It's not that big. It's like a.

[Mike]

It's not that big.

[Bradley]

It's like a baby goat toe at best.

[Mike]

All right, we got our Patreon giveaway. We got a lot of submissions this time. So the Patreon giveaway is for refracted wolf apparel, merch, a hat and a shirt, maybe two. I love how my dad put in for this. We got 108 submissions, so what we do is we. I gotta find the random number generator here. It says, it says this one right now. But you're gonna tap it and I'm gonna pick whatever number is on there. Just Tap once. Yep. 45. Number 45 for the Patreon winner is a blank space. So we're gonna tap it again.

[Bradley]

Does it go outside the bracket?

[Mike]

Well, Richard. Oh, hold on.

[Bradley]

I'm gonna throw in my leg day program too.

[Tyler]

In the meantime, there's two more super chats. Owen Taylor, $5 pizza trust fund. Love the show. Going forward, who do you think will support police more Democrats or Republicans? Yes. This is provocative.

[Mike]

Yeah, Democrats are definitely gonna support us.

[Carl Anderson]

Sure.

[Bradley]

All right.

[Mike]

Let's try it again. 92. All right, 92 is Joshua Stone of Texas. You are the winner of refractive Wolf apparel package. So appreciate Patreon. You guys are awesome. The giveaways don't do it justice. You guys are a huge reason why we can have a studio while we can have the cameras, the equipment, the producers, everybody. Everything we have is because of the Patreon. So in the super chats, you guys are amazing and look forward to giving you more free shit like cloud defensive flashlights and shit like that.

[Tyler]

So, Ricky, one more time with $20. Just saying. Cocktail. I'll message you. We spoken before. Appreciate it. Copy you a real one.

[Bradley]

Great. I'll get you on, man.

[Mike]

Yeah, so we can go to. Oh, one last thing. We have a GoFundMe. Can you go to the Instagram? It's not a video, so you can pull it up. It's a. It's a webpage. It's a GoFundMe for. Right there. Down. Right there.

[Bradley]

Yep.

[Mike]

Is it? Yeah. Can. Can you read that, Bradley, the description? I can't read it. Yeah.

[Tyler]

My name is John and I am the host of the Point man podcast. We are raising money for Connor Teehan and his family. While on duty on February 25, 2025, Officer Teehan and his partner were responding to an officer in need of assistance call. While en route, their cruiser was struck by an individual who was subsequently arrested and charged with operating under the influence, fifth offense and operating an MV with a suspended license. Conor has recently undergone spinal surgery due to his injury from the accident and his partner suffered a traumatic brain injury. He has a wife and a young child and he is unable to work due to his months long anticipated recovery.

[Mike]

All right, so I will try and post that link in the description. Well, I won't try. I will, but I'm trying to figure out the best way to get it to you guys. But if you guys could go just give a couple bucks to that. John is the host of the Point man podcast who is also under counterculture umbrella. He's a great dude and so it sucks to see stuff like that, but a couple bucks from everybody could really help.

[Tyler]

An MG with 4.99. Brent, when are y' all getting the black MC FRCC hats in again? Brent's not here, so I will act.

[Mike]

Like Brent and say I have no idea.

[Bradley]

I sent you a picture.

[Mike]

Oh, I'm.

[Bradley]

What? I think there you go on. On your personal account.

[Mike]

This is just the easiest.

[Bradley]

This is a live photo of me right there.

[Tyler]

Other one not focusing very well.

[Bradley]

My wife actually made that. So that's how she feels about my legs.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh, so it's not. You've been dealing with this for a while.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You skip leg day.

[Bradley]

I don't do legs. I can run. I ran like a.

[Mike]

You don't do legs?

[Bradley]

No, no, I. Dude, I ran. I benched 315 and ran a 551 mile in the same day. They're fast. I just want to be.

[Mike]

Oh, I know they're fast. They're not big.

[Bradley]

I don't need them to be big. I like to run distance. I always took pride in running that ranger for five miles under 40 minutes. That was my favorite.

[Mike]

Here's the thing, too. So I was never a believer in this, but it really does jack your testosterone to be doing compound exercises and legs. So I. I take testosterone.

[Carl Anderson]

Right.

[Bradley]

Me too.

[Mike]

You go every six months, and you talk to your doctor, you virtual, you know, doctor, make sure. You just make sure everything's good. And she was like, hey, can I ask you a question? And I go, yeah. So I had integrated a new. Me and my wife were at the time, we're doing legs twice a week. Right. So I was ramped up legs. And my doctor goes, I have to ask you a question. And I go, yeah. She goes, are you taking anything else? I go, no. Why? She goes, you're at 1300 almost going on 1400 testosterone. And I was like, what? She goes, have. What have you done different? And I'm like, oh, I've done legs. She goes, that's why legs jacked my up 500.

[Bradley]

I just take two shots a week and skip legs.

[Mike]

Yeah. Or you can skip legs. You don't need it. But if you want to jack your testosterone up and for some whatever weird reason you don't want to take TRT like every other man around here, do legs twice a week. That'll jack your up. All right, Fauci, it's not bad for you.

[Bradley]

Really good for you. It's really good for you. And 1300 is rookie numbers.

[Tyler]

Hightower with $20. No message. Just 20 bucks.

[Bradley]

Appreciate it.

[Mike]

Thank you. I die. Let's go to Carl's YouTube.

[Carl Anderson]

Before we do that, let me set it up a little bit. So, I mean, obviously you guys. You guys saw the documentary. That's how we linked up. And, you know, before we play it. So just to give. I'm not going to give the whole story, but, you know, anybody that works in law enforcement, they know that there's a tendency for the Disciplinary system to be weaponized. If you're not one of the golden boys or the chosen ones, you know, they. There's a lot of selective enforcement, unfairness. I was forced out of my agency into an early retirement, and I had a stack of recordings and papers from the investigation and a whole lot of free time on my hand. So I got with my brother Christian, and we decided, you know what? Everybody has a story like this. I have the receipts for mine. Let's tell the story. So we put out a documentary. And what you're going to see on this clip here, a group of five young officers, all rookies, decided. So look, I hold people accountable. I hold myself accountable, and I hold my guys accountable. I joke around. I'm a goofball. I like to have fun. But when it's time to work, it's time to get. Get to business. We got to get to business. There was some lackluster performance on my shift. I was getting pressure from my command staff to increase disciplinary measures. The dam broke and these guys all converged and started making shit up about me. The clip that you're gonna see is basically an incident that these guys all categorized. They were basically. First of all, I wasn't even working when this incident happened. This was them asking for my opinion on it. And basically I told them they should have made an arrest or they should have at least called a supervisor. And they didn't. And they complained to internal affairs that I was ordering them after the fact that to make an illegal arrest, okay. And threw me into a. They. I got sent home for a month. I went into a. It was a, like a four month long investigation. And this is the. This is the clip that you're gonna see of how. What was categorized as me telling them to make an illegal arrest. And I want to be clear. I don't talk about people that. That is so common in this job. People love to talk shit. And there's plenty of. You can talk about me, I'm sure of it. I'll talk about myself, but I don't talk about people. I talk like if your ideas are stupid or your actions are stupid, I'm gonna be honest and I'm gonna call it out. I'm not gonna be mean, but I'm gonna be real with people. And this was the. This was the fallout for one of the officers. And there's. This is just one example of plenty of allegations that were made about me where I just basically like Neo in the Matrix, just dodging them one by one. Kind of bring in the receipts for everything. So that's. This is one of the clips from the documentary I've seen in my career to one of the worst mistakes I've something to that effect. If he only did one extra step, it would have been a fantastic one of the best LMP arrests I think any of us had seen. Especially if that gentleman was tied to some of the serious crime problems that we had on our shift at that moment.

[Mike]

I didn't think it was lording the.

[Bradley]

Problem, but after I spoke with Detective Days that he had sent a flyer and I told him it might have.

[Carl Anderson]

Been that guy, in the course of that conversation he had said, oh, but I did an fi. So we looked for the fi. And in fact he did not do one. We brought that to his attention. He said, oh, my bad, I was gonna do one.

[Bradley]

So just to let you know that my son and Detective Anderson reviewed the.

[Cameron Ellsworth]

Body on camera that specific incident.

[Mike]

There's one main thing that came to my mind that would not cost you an LNP arrest.

[Bradley]

No. Yeah, I still believe. Because he didn't raise any suspicion, like at the time. No. So he had a gun in his book bag. He's 15 years old, he lives in Opelaka.

[Mike]

It's five o' clock in the morning.

[Bradley]

Well, I didn't think about it like that at the time.

[Carl Anderson]

You know, I'd like to add something too that kind of contributed to how unbelievable this was to me is because just a week prior, Officer Odom had made a lawyer to grand prowling arrest. It was a young man hanging out in front of the Jefferson Plaza after hours. Officer Odom said he drove by and it appeared that this gentleman concealed himself behind a pole to hide from Officer Odom. Officer Odom made contact with him, said something to him, asked him what he was doing, something like that. And then he decided he was going to arrest him for loitering prowling. So he took him to the station. It was immediately apparent to me by looking at this gentleman and smelling this gentleman that this guy was one of our local vagrants. Officer Odomaster. Oh, what should I do next? I said, well, if you're making a loitering prowling arrest, you need to read him Miranda, give him an opportunity to explain what he was doing over there in that shopping center. I stuck around, listened to him interview this gentleman. The gentleman said, I'm homeless. I was digging through the garbage can looking for food. I did not try to hide from you. It was at that point I spoke to Officer Odom. I said, Look. Now, per state statute, he needs to be able to dispel your alarm for safety of persons and property in the area. Do you feel that he did that? He said, no. I said, okay, can you explain why? And he said, because I saw him hide behind a pole when I drove through the parking lot. I said, okay. However, I just heard what he said, and I want to let you, you know, as your supervisor, if you feel that was sufficient enough to dispel your alarm for what he was doing in that area, I would understand and I would be happy to allow you to un. Arrest him. And he says, no, I think I'm gonna take him. Didn't put up a fight. I said, okay, this is your arrest. I didn't see what you saw, but that was that. So you. To understand this conversation and roll call in context of what I had just seen the week prior. I'm not sure if that was in your investigation, if that had been brought up.

[Bradley]

No, I was never brought up.

[Carl Anderson]

I'll take it a step further. I am not mad that no arrest was made. The only thing that I have a huge problem with is why he felt he knew his job so well that he didn't need to call a supervisor. And then after the fact, he decides he's going to bring it up in a roll call with a different supervisor. That's what I hope he took away from it, was that if you're not sure what you have, you need to call the supervisor right then. Right there.

[Mike]

All right, all right. Listen, listen.

[Tyler]

In all honesty, it wasn't today, but.

[Mike]

I did cut gills. It wasn't around here, though.

[Bradley]

Oh, okay.

[Carl Anderson]

It also became clear while. Yep, that was one of the many allegations that was brought up against me. The biggest one was when we were talking about two separate uses of forces in which multiple officers were on scene, hands on with a subject, and another officer shows up with the taser. The officers say, do not tase him, but the officer proceeds to tase them anyway. And look, I. I'm a nerd. You know, I'm a geek. I. I'm an. I love to. I love science, I love philosophy, and I'm big on, like, evolutionary psychology. I. So I tried to dumb down the conversation by saying, like, this is natural. Like, you. We see on the news, we see cops dog piling people and just losing their. So I said, look, we're all a bunch of hairless monkeys who've evolved to hunt something down in kill it. And then they took that, they twisted it and contorted it, and Then said that that was obviously evidence of my racism.

[Mike]

And I said, way worse.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, but see, that's the thing too. It's like people need to understand our roll calls, bro. We, we talk so much, man. It's, it's like, you know, people make all sorts of like sexual jokes, profanity.

[Mike]

All like, well, this, this just goes to show you. And we get a lot of people people. One of our biggest group of haters are actual cops. They're not anti cop people. When me and Mike do these counterculture episodes, our biggest adversary in the comment section are cops. And they're cops going, these guys are just washed up. These guys don't know their job. These guys are disgruntled. And it's so heartbreaking to have to say, brother, it just hasn't happened to you yet. Yeah, but I, I, when it does, I'll be there.

[Bradley]

And not many people, what, what strikes me about him is that you, we don't ever keep receipts. You are a very rare person who kept the receipts and have the backup to show that you're not just being another disgruntled, pissed off cop.

[Carl Anderson]

The unfortunate part is it's because I've heard too many horror stories and I've seen too much. Okay, there is, and it's not specific to that agency. It is everywhere. It is everywhere. And, and it's really like all these cops blowing their brains out. That's where that comes from. Okay, we were talking, it's a crisis.

[Bradley]

We're talking about that earlier. Yeah, we're Talking about like LA was LA county, 14 or 13 in a couple years. And it's like, I've seen the dead babies, I've seen the mangled cars, I've seen all that stuff getting railroaded by people who I thought were like tight friends of mine, only because of political and needing to move me out of the way because I wasn't supporting them for sheriff or I wasn't supporting them, the administration anymore because I was using my own brain and saw that things were fucked up. They now make you expendable. They find a reason to squash you. And they expected me to go away.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

And for a little while I did. I was very down the dumps. But then I came around and I did start documenting. Like you say, that's good advice. All young cops, cops, if you feel like, and I'm not talking about your piece of. But if you're doing your job and you feel like you're getting harassed, start. Make sure you document every meeting, every time they pull Your you aside. Every time they do something stupid to you, write it down. Because it's not hearsay if you keep record of those conversations. Because it can happen to anybody when it's time. And for the haters, I always say, I did 23 years. It's not like I did two years and just ran away from the job. I did 23 years. Anybody wants to see my resume, I'm not going to sit here and talk about everything I did. I did a few things. I can send you my resume. I have experience. But it can happen to a guy who does everything and goes. Does all the extra shifts, does all the overtime, signs up for everything, takes all the cases. Work can happen. The guy sits under a tree and does nothing. It doesn't. It doesn't matter who you are. At some point, if you cross that line with the administration, you're going to get squashed. Yeah, you're gonna get squashed.

[Carl Anderson]

You know, as far as, like, cops on each other. Like, look, I love cops. I don't care if you hate me. I love you. I wish the best for you. I want you to ex. To. It's a hard job, man. And you were talking about, you know, people being disgruntled. Look, cynicism is the beginning of wisdom, okay? You get dragged through the dirt in this job, okay? And people check out, people get pissed off. But if you can go a step beyond that, you can, you know, now you're wise. You know how the sausage is made. You know how the game is played, and you can bob and weave and kind of navigate that environment. And we.

[Bradley]

Oh, that rhyme. That was pretty good.

[Carl Anderson]

Drop some sickness.

[Bradley]

That was like some chaosone. And.

[Carl Anderson]

But you brought up, like, you know, these younger.

[Bradley]

These.

[Carl Anderson]

What these younger guys need to understand, too, is like, you know, I was a hot shot when I first started, okay?

[Bradley]

I was too.

[Carl Anderson]

You know, I. I think it's a rite of passage. Every. Like, every.

[Mike]

You should be.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, you should be.

[Mike]

And that nothing irks anybody more than a new guy that's lazy.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, exactly. And that's what we're getting.

[Mike]

I can be lazy.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, you can't.

[Bradley]

Yeah, but I've earned it.

[Carl Anderson]

And these young guys, they don't get it. They see these old farts that are just burnt out and like, bro, like, the. And the agency has a tendency to, like, you know, like, shine the light on the hot shots. But for me, it's like, how much have you had to eat? You know, like, how much have you had to eat in your career? Like, that's how I have respect for you. You've been through two divorces and you've beaten an alcohol problem and things like, like, that's the guy that I support because this job is a marathon. It's not a sprint.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

Okay. Any, any rookie can go out there and, and you know, save the world and I encourage that. Okay. But you need to look at the long game too. And you need to have respect for the people that have done the hot shot, have done all the, the cool that you're, you know, putting in for and you're excited about. You know, we support you guys, but good.

[Bradley]

Yeah, my shit's cutting in and out.

[Carl Anderson]

But the agency, tech problems, the agencies too, they, they throw people under the bus and they, they really ruin lives. And that's what I'm sick of. And you know, same thing happened to Mike, something similarly worse.

[Bradley]

And it's a good segue to the next video because I am all about holding cops accountable. And we have that video of cops being unaccountable, and that's just as important. So for the cop haters saying where I see some comments like, oh, what about these guys that do this and that part of what counterculture is, is also, if you're doing stupid, we're gonna, we're gonna find you. It's not just tick tock cops. If you're breaking the law, if you're not following the constitution, if you're not doing what's right by the people, we're gonna also call you out. So it's not just, oh, these guys hate cops or these, these citizens are pieces of. Cops are pieces of too.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

And we need our first.

[Mike]

One of our first shirts needs to be the anti cop cop code.

[Bradley]

Yeah. Because it's. I worked with so many cops that didn't give a. And I. And it drove me crazy when I would look at them, be like, what do you mean? You don't want to like, go arrest people and put people in jail. And I'm not talking about being some tyrannical. I'm talking about guys breaking into cars, guys stealing lawn equipment out of trailers, guys, you know, pimping girls out, trafficking young girl. Let's go fuck those people up. Let's find them and put them in jail. That's what I talk about. Enforcement. I'm not. I don't give a fuck. You're speeding. I never cared about speeding and traffic and all that bullshit. Yeah. So it. You speed, but your job is. And when I would look at people like, you don't want to go, like, find these guys that are doing this horrific shit and, like, drag them to jail. That's what our job is. So I. I have just as much as a problem with those type of cops as. As I do with criminals. Like, they're. They're one and the same to me. If you're a lazy cop not doing your job, you're a problem. You're a huge problem. So that's what the counterculture is. We're not just, oh, cops. Cops are great. They're not great. And it's not. It needs to all be brought out. We need to tell the truth.

[Mike]

All right, let's.

[Bradley]

Let's watch that video.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

I can't hear it might have gotten, like, unplugged. Is it on Instagram?

[Bradley]

Yes. No.

[Mike]

Tug it.

[Bradley]

It's up, up, up. There you go. It came in and out. It's above that lines, girl. This one, top one, next one up. That one? Yeah, watch this.

[Carl Anderson]

Well, hold on. I don't have any audio. Oh, there we go.

[Bradley]

Mine's not, but that's fine. Go.

[Mike]

This is back on here.

[Bradley]

Well, that is aggravated battery.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

That is borderline like, kidnapping, false imprisonment while armed. That is unacceptable. That is unacceptable.

[Carl Anderson]

First and foremost. The Master of Puppet soundtrack was the perfect soundtrack to punctuate the we just saw. And that's exactly what I try to tell these guys is like, bro, we're animals, okay? We are animals. And if we're not constantly training and being aware of our killer instincts, like that is gonna happen.

[Bradley]

That is unacceptable. That is crossing in, like, attempted murder.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

Like, that guy cannot defend himself. And that's the same case I make with Memphis. Is that. Yeah, he is trying to.

[Mike]

For the argument. I think that's a better. Better argument for the fact that you're like, he's trying to survive. Okay. He wasn't like that one like the. The other one. The guy was able to move his whole body to the point where anybody.

[Bradley]

Can look, well, that we've talked about.

[Mike]

This guy was completely defenseless.

[Bradley]

And they're gonna say he was resisting. No, you were killing him a style. Yeah, you're killing him.

[Carl Anderson]

Here's what I would say. Look, we didn't have a great vantage point, but do we had a pretty good one? I mean, we saw. We saw what we needed to saw, but the. You know, when you're going to cross examine these things. Did they think he had a gun on his waistband? Were his arms under him?

[Bradley]

They better say that now. I saw his hands up. I saw his hands up here.

[Mike]

Can we get that context?

[Carl Anderson]

But these are the things that people need to consider, too, is like, because, look, if I know a guy's armed and he's got his arms, then I.

[Bradley]

Am going to act like that.

[Mike]

Okay, but bring him to everything.

[Bradley]

Here's the counter to that.

[Mike]

This guy's a real cop.

[Bradley]

Yeah, he's that guy. That's. No, no, no. The point being, if you thought he had a gun, then you should be controlling his hands. And Michael, my friend Brennan would tell you easily, you grab his wrist and you peel it back. There was no way that guy was stopping those guys from putting his hands.

[Mike]

Is there any contacts? That video.

[Bradley]

Not. I actually contacted the guy. It's a. It's a first amendment auditor type dude who runs that page. And I talked to him a little bit in the com. Dms. I don't know him, but I was sent that video. I don't know the context of it. I can tell you, though, that is. That's without any context.

[Mike]

Unless there has to be a gun involved. There has to be to justify that.

[Bradley]

Yeah, but when do you stop trying to beat the brakes off?

[Mike]

I mean, he's got his hands up, so he's not going for the gun.

[Carl Anderson]

Were his hands up? I. I missed.

[Bradley]

Yeah, his hands. He was. He was trying to block the knees from hitting them in the skull. Everything was up and he was. There was no attempt in that scenario to handcuff him.

[Mike]

I love the way you said. I mean, we had a bad vantage point like that.

[Bradley]

Yeah, it's great.

[Carl Anderson]

I mean, I need, like, people need to interrogate their own.

[Mike]

Stop resisting my control.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, no, no, like you. You really have to look at everything from all sorts of different angles. You got to think of these things like an attorney, like the defense and, you know, the. The prosecution. You really, like, obviously, look, you know, Graham versus Connor exists for a reason. Okay. You know, you're going to handle. You're going to handle business the way you believe you need to handle business. Okay? And then they're going to. They're going to tear it apart and, you know, and Herb Dean would have stopped that fight.

[Bradley]

Herb Dean. Herb Dean would have stopped that fight. That's a. That's a tko. Herb Dean stops that fight, we're not going anywhere yourself anymore. No, man, you're done. That. That. That's getting stopped.

[Carl Anderson]

And that's like what I. What I always told my guys, too, is like, you know, with mma, right, why is there a referee there to stop that fight? Exactly. To drag that animal off of the other person.

[Bradley]

Okay, so here's my problem. Here's my. Here's my duty to intervene.

[Carl Anderson]

Yes.

[Bradley]

Three morons are beating the out of this dude. One of those morons, like, been like, hey, that's my fifth knee. And you threw five. And you threw five. Maybe one of us should, like, regroup and rethink. Like, what are we doing? That was a modern day ass whooping, 1970 style police encounter.

[Mike]

At the end of the video, the cop goes, yeah, you're next. You're next.

[Bradley]

Notice the video stops too. Yeah, like this. I'm out of here.

[Mike]

That county's run by the law, baby.

[Bradley]

Yeah, that. That is a. Michael Buffer is coming out. What happened before the video started, that's all we got. You know that's what I'm saying. So we don't know. I can't imagine short of cutting baby's heads off, that. That was the result.

[Mike]

Maybe he was trying to go for a gun in his waistband.

[Bradley]

Sure, sure. You guys are both on that side.

[Mike]

This guy voted for Biden, by the way.

[Bradley]

No, I did not vote for Biden. I voted for common sense. Sense. That's why people hate cops. That's why, bro, vets hate cops. That's why people hate cops. Is because of that dumb. There is nothing in that video that he did beforehand, and I can't. What. What could he have done before that to deserve that? Listen, I get the old fashioned, like, parking lot beat down.

[Mike]

We got to get the super chat.

[Carl Anderson]

You have mass shooters that shoot up a school.

[Bradley]

Yeah, they go to 20 court.

[Carl Anderson]

Exactly.

[Mike]

That's true.

[Bradley]

He had a P320 on him and it went off a couple. Yeah, I swear to go.

[Mike]

Joshua Burkhouse.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Joshua Burkhouse with $20. Another night at Daniel defense. Love you guys. If you're ever interested, hit me up and come visit our facility in Black Creek was GA, GA. Yeah, we might.

[Bradley]

Be passing by there.

[Tyler]

Would love to have y' all here. Be safe and stay lethal, John.

[Mike]

Hell yeah. I'm assuming it's a gun manufacturer. Yeah, you know, okay. Black Creek, Georgia. Where's that at?

[Bradley]

Georgia. Georgia. Right outside Atlanta. You hired. You hired in Atlanta.

[Tyler]

Next one is Caleb Booten with $20 beer money, boys. Keep the fridge full. Also requesting catacombs by after the burial for closeout song.

[Mike]

All right, we got $20 for after the burial, but John from point man podcast has you beat by 30 bucks for soul fly jumps the up.

[Tyler]

So next one is Sergeant Will. Hey, guys. I saw my father and epso deputy go Downhill when he spoke up. The cop culture has changed over the last 20 years.

[Bradley]

Yep.

[Tyler]

Truly hurts to see like this happen. Much respect, cast and crew.

[Bradley]

Yep.

[Mike]

He gave you a shout out, Bradley.

[Bradley]

Cast and crew.

[Mike]

I haven't even seen your face on it. We paid for a camera.

[Tyler]

I. I flashed it by accident earlier.

[Mike]

That's what Drew said. Oh, by the way, I flash it like. Like, was it on accent one?

[Tyler]

Just came in with Rudy. Y' all seen the shooting video from Dixie Normous to Buster Cherry Lowell.

[Bradley]

Oh, you got. You. You. You fell for that.

[Mike]

Wait, what?

[Bradley]

Not enormous legs. Enormous. From Dixie Normous and Buster Cherry.

[Tyler]

Not as. Not as bad as.

[Bradley]

No, it wasn't bad as the racist slur that.

[Mike]

Tyler, man, you grow so good times on the lives.

[Bradley]

There's another great video of a. There's two of them.

[Mike]

Let's go back to the videos.

[Bradley]

We're going back to females now. Here we go.

[Mike]

Let's never ending content.

[Bradley]

This is this one right here? Yeah, this is a good one. This is. A citizen has to get involved.

[Carl Anderson]

I've got a spirit.

[Mike]

Step aside, ladies.

[Bradley]

Step aside, ladies. A complete, nondescript civilian is going to simply caress him gently in gym shorts. A tender touch.

[Mike]

Good.

[Bradley]

I love how he's showing. Oh, this is all it takes. And they're still giving it a wide berth.

[Tyler]

You guys want to take it for here?

[Mike]

He seems okay with the guy handling him.

[Bradley]

This is not to say that women are physically less capable than men, but women.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. That guy clearly did not want to be arrested by women.

[Bradley]

But if you look at the. The amount of control the guy used, it wasn't very much. I think.

[Mike]

I love how he looked back, like, okay, you guys gonna feel like you're gonna do something?

[Bradley]

The one girl's still standing with her taser out, and the other one. So no hands on. No hands.

[Mike]

All right. To be fair, that's Europe. That is a wild place.

[Bradley]

It is. It is.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Bradley]

Even less reason women should be cops over there.

[Mike]

Yeah. You're just using sticks and brute force.

[Bradley]

I think you got to call, like, 911 to get a gun. As a cop, you have to get a gun car. The gun car has to come out and help you.

[Mike]

We're pinned down.

[Bradley]

But if you look at the level of control that guy used, it wasn't very much like the. The female should be able to do that as well. Both of them on one arm. He didn't really fight. I. I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

[Mike]

Man, good times. Let's get another video.

[Bradley]

I don't know. Yeah, this is another. Go down the other way. Other way. Keep going.

[Mike]

I'm so.

[Bradley]

Maybe it's up.

[Mike]

No.

[Bradley]

There you go. Look at this breaching attempt here. Bit harder.

[Mike]

Go on, eat it. Call yourself Please force. No forcing you. Be harder. Go on, eat it.

[Carl Anderson]

I think British police coming after somebody from a Facebook post.

[Bradley]

I mean, again.

[Mike]

Was there a dude just standing there, just talking?

[Bradley]

I mean, what do you do?

[Mike]

Oh, man.

[Bradley]

The breachers.

[Mike]

All right, all right. What is that one right there in the bottom? Have we watched that one?

[Bradley]

That's.

[Mike]

No. Have we seen that one?

[Tyler]

We haven't seen this one.

[Mike]

All right.

[Cameron Ellsworth]

Attorney in the hallway and walks towards Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan's courtroom. Along the way, he passes plainclothes federal Agen sitting on a bench. They are there to detain him. After Flores Ruiz walks by, the agents turn to each other and appear to confirm his identity amongst themselves. But a few moments later, Judge Dugan and another judge approached the agent sitting on the bench. A criminal complaint against Dugan later said she was alerted to their presence by a court official. That complaint says during this interaction, Dugan and the agents disagreed over the type of warrant they had to arrest Flores Ruiz. According to the complaint, Dugan ordered the agents to go to the chief judge's office. Video shows her pointing them through a double door. She then turns back to speak with other agents further down the hall and orders them through the doors as well. Shortly after that, with the agents gone from the hallway, Eduardo Flores Ruiz and his attorney exit into the hallway through a different door. As they walk down the hall toward the elevators, they pass another plainclothes federal agent. Neither they nor Judge Dugan seem to have noticed that at the time. That agent motions to another to follow Flores Ruiz. Security video shows Flores Ruiz exiting through a basement exit upstairs on the sixth floor. The other agents have left the chief judge's office and worked their way downstairs. Flores Ruiz left the building onto 9th Street. Videos of the street shows the agents catching up to him. Flores ruiz runs across 10th street while trying to get away. But the agents catch him and arrest him. He meets his attorney in the hall.

[Mike]

You think anything happened to that judge?

[Bradley]

Arrested. That's obstruction.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

Was she arrested?

[Bradley]

I don't know, but she should be.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's. That's. That's Trump law. Stumping your little conscious code.

[Bradley]

That's. That's like terrorism, man. That's. You're working against the United States government when you do that.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's bad.

[Carl Anderson]

I mean, dude shouldn't do that.

[Bradley]

No. Jesus.

[Mike]

All right, let's.

[Tyler]

We just got a super chat real quick. Danny. Five bucks, Taylor. From what range should I practice? Be practicing my grenade throwing.

[Mike]

Oh, definitely try joining the US army and go to that. That is a scary place when you got 40 privates that are retarded throwing grenades.

[Bradley]

That was a sketchy day. Yeah, I remember that.

[Mike]

Then they said like, there will be one of you that's going to do the scariest thing imaginable. And every time there's one guy that for some reason goes into brain lock when it comes to that.

[Bradley]

At 4. Day was pretty wild too.

[Mike]

I didn't have one of those.

[Bradley]

I had one. I shot one. It was wild.

[Mike]

All right, let's check out the videos.

[Bradley]

I don't think we have any more.

[Tyler]

We can watch this one.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

Yep.

[Mike]

That one.

[Bradley]

You're being detained. Sit down. Sit down.

[Carl Anderson]

Otherwise you're going into handcuffs.

[Tyler]

There's two ways to do this.

[Bradley]

This isn't Seattle.

[Carl Anderson]

Get your idea.

[Bradley]

My ID is in my car. What are you.

[Carl Anderson]

Doing? That is the worst fake seizure I have ever seen.

[Mike]

Knock it off.

[Carl Anderson]

Snap out of it. You have your seizure.

[Bradley]

Want to make sure you're okay. Breathe.

[Carl Anderson]

Breathe and stop pretending to have a seizure because you're not having a seizure.

[Bradley]

I can't breathe.

[Tyler]

450 have seizures.

[Bradley]

I have.

[Mike]

We have one fake seizure.

[Carl Anderson]

Can you send fire third degree?

[Mike]

I didn't do any. I've seen some wild.

[Bradley]

She had a gun.

[Mike]

Yeah, she had a gun.

[Bradley]

Yeah. If you go. That's like a. A a skipped around part of the video. When they first encounter her and Paul. Her.

[Tyler]

Whatever For a second.

[Bradley]

Yeah. She has a gun in her pocket. I love that. It's not. This is not Seattle line. That's great. It's not what he said. It's not Seattle. Those are good cops. Those dudes are leg. Those are good. You can. And how easy is it to tell just from seeing those guys? They're squared away. I know. They're good dudes. Good cops.

[Carl Anderson]

She.

[Mike]

I can't hear you. You gotta use a mic.

[Bradley]

Was he tickling her? It looked like he was tickling a little bit. That was the old start up the old sternum rod.

[Carl Anderson]

Wake him up.

[Bradley]

Yeah. If you're having a seizure, this shouldn't hurt.

[Mike]

If you got ever anybody that's not a cop or not first responder know a lot of people like to fake being passed out. And when you take your knuckle and you rub someone's sternum like this. And they don't move. They're really knocked out. They're. They're really.

[Bradley]

You know who should have tried that?

[Mike]

George Floyd.

[Bradley]

Derek Chauvin should have tried that move. Maybe. Maybe we wouldn't be talking about him.

[Mike]

He would have to get off his neck, bro.

[Bradley]

Maybe we wouldn't be talking about him so much if he would have.

[Mike]

Speaking of.

[Bradley]

He's going to get a pardon. We got a good pardon topic.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

President Trump is on a pardon frenzy. He pardoned Larry Hoover, who was the gangster disciple form the Gangster Disciples. Pardon. Pardon. NBA Youngboy.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

Do we know his reasoning behind that?

[Bradley]

He's Donald Trump. I don't know.

[Mike]

The blacks love me.

[Bradley]

Yeah. Any part.

[Mike]

Who's NBA? What?

[Bradley]

NBA YoungBoy is a rapper. He was in on gun charges. He gave him a pardon and I think he pardoned the Chrisleys from Chrisley's Knows Best.

[Mike]

Chris, is it Twist. Polar opposite people.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

That's like the whitest people in the world.

[Bradley]

A guy who formed a gang in Chicago, the biggest gang. A rapper that got caught with guns. And then two white dudes. People that had white collar crimes that committed fraud. You know who he didn't pardon that. I'm still mad.

[Mike]

Derek Chauvin.

[Bradley]

No, no, he's not gonna do that. Joe exotic, man. Oh, free Joe Exotic, dude. Joe exotic.

[Mike]

You don't think he's gonna party?

[Bradley]

What was the best part? The best part of COVID Joe exotic jokes. Yeah.

[Mike]

I never saw it.

[Bradley]

They.

[Carl Anderson]

You never saw Tiger King, bro.

[Bradley]

That's the only thing that kept me in the house without going crazy. Was Joe Exotic.

[Carl Anderson]

Tyler, I'm. I'm jealous that you get to experience a. For the first time.

[Bradley]

You gotta watch it.

[Carl Anderson]

Is that it?

[Bradley]

Is that good?

[Carl Anderson]

Incredible.

[Mike]

Tiger King.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

Yeah. All right.

[Mike]

No.

[Bradley]

Holy. Dude.

[Mike]

You don't think or you think that print. Trump is. We covered it vaguely a little bit in one episode and Trump, the footage that we saw that was recorded that day in the news. Trump was like, I've never heard of this. Because somebody goes, are you gonna. Is it true you're gonna pardon Derev? And he goes. Because this news to me, I don't.

[Bradley]

Even know he did say that. And also he has state charges too.

[Mike]

But do you. But do you think it's too much of a political storm for the president to touch? Not saying that he's scared of that.

[Bradley]

I don't know that he does it.

[Mike]

That is polar.

[Bradley]

Unless he does the. The last day, you know, like.

[Mike]

Yeah, like I don't care. I don't care.

[Bradley]

Well, I mean, every day's the last thing. Now he's got three years they can't get rid of him and he doesn't have a reelection to worry about. So he can do whatever he want. This is just a weird time to like, you know, even think he'll do it. And then that guy just disappears. He's not going to get out because he can't pardon him in the state.

[Mike]

I think the candidate, the president part. I mean, gun charges, that's a state thing.

[Bradley]

No, there was federal gun charges. Yeah, federal. They were all federal. He can't part it because, like, Sal. He can't do anything for Sal because Sal's state charges. He can't go into the state and pardon somebody going to do federal charges.

[Mike]

So generation of power.

[Bradley]

I think Siobhan's in on both.

[Carl Anderson]

I, I think we're missing the bigger picture here. Like, do either of you think he should have been charged for.

[Mike]

Absolutely not. That guy should be chauvin.

[Bradley]

Yes, he, he. First degree murder, I think.

[Mike]

Charged with what?

[Bradley]

Third degree culpable negligence. His negligence led to a contributing factor of George.

[Mike]

No.

[Bradley]

Yes, he did.

[Mike]

No, I didn't.

[Carl Anderson]

And that's something that can be debated. But what.

[Mike]

That's how he says you're wrong, politely.

[Bradley]

No, no, no, I agree. Because the trial should have been about out culpable and that's. And then he should have got a fair trial on that.

[Carl Anderson]

That's the thing everybody wants to, you know, talk about. Oh, we need police reform. We need this, this reform. Like, bro, our entire justice system is, is okay. And why are we so concerned about him getting pardoned? Most people, when they look at the evidence, they feel that at minimum he was overcharged. Okay. At minimum, he was overcharged. He was overcharged.

[Bradley]

I agree.

[Carl Anderson]

And why are we so concerned about, you know, him getting pardoned? Because what's going to happen. Yeah, right, exactly. All right, so that speaks to the larger cultural issue that we have is we have a tribalism problem in this country. You have, you know, kids stabbing kids at track meets and, you know, their families collecting, you know, half a million dollars. You have, you know, some white chick dropping n bombs towards a toddler at a park collecting, you know, however, half a million dollars. And like, nobody is, is like, we need honest conversation and dialogue right now because that's unsustainable. We are on the precipice of a calamity.

[Bradley]

And damn, dude, you're throwing big. Right Lost.

[Mike]

What's calamity? That's an std Right?

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. When your clam is a little calamity.

[Bradley]

But I, I did see. So the five year just passed. I saw a lot of George Floyd's five year drug free post. The other thing I saw was there's a meme going around about George Floyd's contributions to society because there's some dude on the stand saying he makes a really good mayonnaise sandwich and, and honey and banana sandwich or something. George couldn't cook, so he made like a mayonnaise sandwich. And this guy's actually testifying to his character because of that. Like, he's like. He couldn't even boil water.

[Mike]

You see that? The people are saying God did it. But the lightning that struck the mural and destroyed.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bradley]

I refused to make one of the posts and somebody sent me the old clip of like, that's why nobody's gonna remember your name. And I'm like, I'm not touching the George Floyd five year jokes. I wouldn't touch the five year Fentanyl free.

[Mike]

Copville. Copville. Counterculture.

[Bradley]

I won't touch it. No, I just.

[Carl Anderson]

It just.

[Bradley]

You know what? That. Come on, man. Somebody still died. I mean.

[Mike]

Oh, ew.

[Bradley]

Ew. He. It's no different than that guy getting his ass whooped in the park and.

[Mike]

We laughed at it.

[Bradley]

I'm not saying it's not funny. I'm just saying I wasn't making the joke. Just like the, just like this joke, the face paint joke. Wrong place, wrong time.

[Mike]

Somebody is going to come out and say that that's not counterculture.

[Bradley]

It is. Okay, I'll make the job. I don't care. I'll post it tonight.

[Mike]

Don't let me peer pressure you. Don't let me peer pressure you.

[Bradley]

I just. It is what it is.

[Mike]

What? What is it?

[Bradley]

No, it is.

[Mike]

What is it?

[Bradley]

It is. It's a, it's, it's.

[Mike]

Is it just.

[Bradley]

It's one of those. No, it's one of those topics. It's never going to be agreed upon. Everybody. There's so many variables into that situation.

[Mike]

I think because what he talked about. We can't agree to, to start at a plateau.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Everyone's arguing here. We baseline. All right, does everybody. We should. Or work our way down. Does everybody agree that murder. Murder is a wrong charge?

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. Can we start there?

[Bradley]

Can we all agree you got a whole group of people that think he was murdered. So you, you.

[Mike]

But let's at least start there.

[Bradley]

Well, you're going to have half the country say yes, like immediately. He was murdered. Half Half. Yeah, yeah. How many Democrats are there? It's right down the middle, dude. And then you have to separate the men from the women because you got the men that'll do what their wives say they have to do. So.

[Mike]

Is that me?

[Bradley]

No, no, I didn't say that. What did you post today?

[Carl Anderson]

What did you say?

[Bradley]

If you, if you're offended by the statement, maybe it's you. I didn't say it was you. You got offended. You got offended by it, though? I don't know.

[Mike]

We did, we had, had. We had somebody get. I. I don't know. I mean, I, I like to think that when people. I think they're being dramatic and crybabies, I like to think maybe they're playing it better than I am. And I'm the one going, why is this guy crying? They're like, no, I'm the mastermind, Tyler. I like to give people credit where credit's due.

[Bradley]

But I mean the guy, obviously George Floyd was a piece of. He was a criminal. Yeah, he's a criminal. So. But you know, know, it's. It's still.

[Mike]

Look how. Look at the nervous ticks over there.

[Bradley]

No, it's just it. It's still it. What it. Did we really need that for a 20 bill? Did America need that?

[Mike]

America? No, America wanted it.

[Bradley]

Okay, yeah, half of America wanted it. But did we really need that over a. Like that?

[Mike]

Dude's like, no law enforcement. I remember watching it on TV much like I've seen a lot. And most of the time it's like, this is going to be a hard month at work. Work because of what's in mainstream. Everybody you pull over is now showing their ass and you're like, okay, everybody can't breathe now. But when I saw that, I was like, this is gonna be a problem, like a long term. And I remember watching all of admin bend over and just, you know when they were taking knees and I'm like, man. And they're condemning like the. And I'm like, there's no way that anybody has any context right now. Early on, early on.

[Bradley]

Well, my biggest problem is it was not racial. That's my problem. The rest of it can be negotiated. Had nothing to do with his skin color. Nothing. Nothing at all. I think that's the of it.

[Carl Anderson]

The media too, has just, you know, they painted this picture and any cop that has worked, you know, on the street and has done their job, bro, it's, it's. What's it? Incarcerites. It happens all the time. But the public, they're not familiar with that. They don't see how people act on up when they're here.

[Mike]

Here's why is because I'm being facetious if someone's gonna get mad at me. But I'm also a little serious. The 1970 ass whoopings was what you got when you did that.

[Bradley]

Correct.

[Mike]

So people just took their licks and they went to jail. Right now we live in a society where people can scream, I can't breathe. Grown men that just created violent felony crimes are gonna fall to the ground and cry or cry in the back seat and throw a temper tantrum them because they got caught and they're going to jail. And like the OG period of like not talking to the police and just taking your ride and doing your time, like that is gone.

[Bradley]

Yeah. Times were better then. And because it was. It went on. It went both ways.

[Mike]

Like incarceris. I must.

[Bradley]

I'm.

[Mike]

I'm sure 15, 20 years ago wasn't a thing.

[Carl Anderson]

No. And then you see how bad it's gotten too, like, you know, taking people to the jail. Oh, did you. Were you raped? They take their blood pressure, they do all this. And I agree, you should have some them accountability. But if, you know, all it takes is for them to say, oh, I'm feeling chest pains. You're at the hospital.

[Mike]

Oh yeah, your night's ruined.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

I remember when you used to bring people in the jail like Weekend at Bernie's. You just sit them in the jail, they took them. Now our jail does not allow you in. They go to the Sally port, check the prisoner, get them out of the car, do like a full physical on them and everything. And if they have one little like you said.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

Off you go and you're there the rest of the.

[Mike]

How many times you go to ORMC at the end of your shift because somebody was denied of the jail.

[Bradley]

Yeah, it was pretty common.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's it and it's like they're pretty cool. It depends on the nurse that you get, the intake nurse. But I mean like there's just things like I can't breathe or my chest hurts that they're not okay. Well, you have to be assessed by a doctor. Unless the jail. I mean, I'm sure there's states with jails with doctors.

[Bradley]

You guys don't benefit from how large you are car. Because we.

[Mike]

That's what she said.

[Bradley]

You do benefit from that, but like in a smaller area where, where I mean we had a guy like escape that somewhere over here. He escaped to jail and we Caught him in our county. He fell down and broke his head during the arrest.

[Mike]

Oh, my goodness.

[Bradley]

Yeah, it was terrible.

[Mike]

Oh, no.

[Bradley]

So he had to get like eight staples. And our hospital, like, got him in the. I watched the lady go, he's good. Clear, go. And I was back to jail in like 20 minutes. You guys get there and the cops. Nobody likes you over here. The hospitals don't like we don't we. By being a little bit smaller. That kind of. That's not a problem. I get them in and out.

[Mike]

Yes. It depends on. I mean, it really depends on your nurse. If you go to the hospital and you get a hug. A thug, liberal minded nurse who I'm like, I tell them, like, this guy thinks. Or this. Not this guy think. This guy is going to use this next six hours to live in comfort because he knows. Knows he's going to jail. He sits. He sees me sitting in that hospital room, and he knows that he might as well just live this up. And he loves the fact that you're t. You're pampering him and taking care of him. And. But sometimes you'll get nurses that are like, why is this piece of in here? Like, let's get him out of here. Doctors too. We'll be like, he did what?

[Bradley]

He fought the police. And then you get the ones that, like, he's cuffed. He's dangerous. He fought you. And then they want you to take the cuffs off. Like blood work. You're like, you. I remember. I'm not doing nothing like that. He's staying in cuffs. Exactly. Whatever test you got to perform, you're performing with handcuffs on.

[Mike]

Or when FD wants to transport, take his cuffs off.

[Bradley]

Like, you know what it took to.

[Mike]

Get these cuffs on.

[Carl Anderson]

And there's just so many points of liability in this job and so much red tape. And it's necessary because people are, you know, they're terrified of getting sued.

[Mike]

Sued.

[Carl Anderson]

Okay. And they're gonna get sued. That's why they have insurance companies. But these, you know, people, I. I feel like the public at large, a lot of people are very reasonable. They understand human beings are, you know, flawed. And that's unfortunately who we have to hire as human beings in this job.

[Mike]

Yeah, but there's always human error.

[Carl Anderson]

Of course. You have to. You have to factor that in. But I don't think people understand the, the tactics and the strategies from some of our frequent flyers to.

[Mike]

They adopt.

[Carl Anderson]

What's that?

[Mike]

The. The tactics. Strategies.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That they use. Yeah. That they learn to milk the system you know, just escape accountability. Like the whole. I can't breathe it. Like, dude, no matter. I. I guarantee all the cops out that, that are out there have heard somebody say that when they were taking. They could just be standing there putting the hand handcuffs on. Comfortable. The guy can't breathe.

[Bradley]

My demotion.

[Mike]

I.

[Bradley]

He. The guy said he couldn't breathe.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah. And. And these are, these are like cultural kind of contagions that, you know, the, these bleeding hearts just say, oh my God, we have to. I get it. Like, we need to be compassionate, but we also need to like, work. Live and work in reality.

[Bradley]

And I think the more we allow to happen all this, the dudes and dresses and all that nonsense sense, the further that goes, the further that peg moves as far as being sympathetic to.

[Carl Anderson]

And it's.

[Bradley]

And it's, it drags it.

[Carl Anderson]

It's a ratchet.

[Bradley]

Like, how far do you let like, drag shows with kids? And to me, it all ties into people getting more lenient with the. How far does the envelope go? Yeah, pretty soon we're gonna be putting like airbags around criminals and stuff to make sure they don't get a scratch on them.

[Carl Anderson]

The only stigma left is the stigma of, of stigma. You can't yuck somebody's yum.

[Bradley]

No, not anymore you can't. But here's the funny thing is then everybody be like, well, I got deserved. He's a pedophile. He's. So we can beat that guy up. But the guy that breaks in the shed, he's not as bad. It's. It's because if it's a pedophile, everybody's on board.

[Carl Anderson]

Like, until we become Judge Dredd out there and RoboCop. RoboCop. Like, unfortunately, we have to let the legal system run its course.

[Bradley]

I agree.

[Carl Anderson]

You know, as imperfect as it is, it's the worst system in the world. Except for all the others.

[Mike]

You're. You've been judged. How do you plead? Well, I thought.

[Bradley]

So it comes down to. It still comes out to me is that the prosecutors and the attorney generals are the most powerful people on earth.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

Because they make the decision if a case goes forward. So the whole it is flawed system because, well, they're going to be judged by a jury. No. If a prosecutor doesn't want it to get to a jury, it's not going. They can be like, I don't like that one. We're going to get rid of it. But I like this one. But I don't like that one.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Carl Anderson]

And that's what I would Encourage, like more, not for lack of a better word, blue collar guys, like boots on the ground guys. Like people that have spent a career doing this kind of stuff. I'd kind of encourage you guys to maybe run for public office because we are, we are being controlled by the, this managerial elite class. A bunch of, you know, people with four year degrees and like that. And they, they, they have no, they have all the book smarts, but they don't have the wisdom from like actually working.

[Bradley]

You can't learn. And I said this during the Christopher Shur trial. He was found that the jury came back hung and he. They're not trying him again. They have to taser. I said that, you know, their expert with the prosecutor's expert witness had a total of five years of law enforcement and he and the rest of it was books. And they used him as an expert witness in use of force. And what a reasonable officer would do. That's impossible. Of course it's impossible. And for the justice system to allow that to happen is an injustice system because there's no such thing as an.

[Mike]

Expert infiltrated by George Soros.

[Bradley]

Yeah, it's impossible to be an expert in anything in. I mean, maybe an astronaut or something. I guess after you fly a couple times it's the same. But like a cop does not learn the job in five years. No, you're just getting the hang.

[Mike]

You have to learn a specialty in five years.

[Bradley]

You're just learning. Learning the job at five years where it's like, okay, I kind of got this figured out. Now I'm going to start fine tuning these skills I've learned. But for that guy to be able to testify as to what a reasonable officer would do is bananas.

[Carl Anderson]

Yeah, bananas. I agree.

[Mike]

Is there any more super chats before we end the night?

[Tyler]

I don't think so. Now there's two.

[Bradley]

Be careful.

[Mike]

All right. Yeah, I'm gonna read them slow.

[Tyler]

Rudy with $5. Chalvin chose a knee over a tree.

[Bradley]

Shouldn't have read that. I said be careful.

[Mike]

I didn't read it. Bradley did.

[Tyler]

It's not, it's still not as bad.

[Bradley]

It's worse. It's worse.

[Tyler]

Oh, well, okay.

[Bradley]

Yeah, yeah, it's worse.

[Tyler]

Alex. Classic case of incarceratis with that fake seizure.

[Mike]

Incarceris.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's it.

[Mike]

All right, guys, that's another Thursday night squadcast. We're gon. We're gonna do two for. We're gonna let Mike read all the hate comments. Somebody was in the comments talking about me not knowing Tiger King. They're like, first he doesn't know Daniel defense, then he doesn't know Tiger King.

[Bradley]

I don't know Lord of the Rings. I'm getting hell for that. I've never seen. I've never seen one second of Lord of the Rings.

[Mike]

All right, so you got two songs worth of talking. We'll. We'll clap back the first song. Jump the up by Soul Fly. Send us what you got.

[Bradley]

Here we go. J Ram, Flags. Flags for bags. I don't think I can say that. Outro song, Mike. Coochie's hairy. My coochie's hairy. Good night, Flamingo tactical. I got the flamingo legs, you got the flamingo. Tactics, tactics. Make sure you check out Carl's documentary. It's. It's. It's mind boggling to see what happens to good cops.

[Carl Anderson]

And if you guys can come check out my new YouTube channel where I'm writing video essays on police culture. It's Shadow in the shield on YouTube.

[Bradley]

Very good stuff. I need this song for leg day. I'm working on it. I still got these, though. Joe, thank you. Be safe. Stay safe, J Ram. Thank you. My camel toe took a beating tonight. That's what she said. Divorce court. That's a shitty court too. This is a top ten song. 350. No, 370. Go to my Instagram. I got a video benching 370.

[Tyler]

Tyler. Someone asked. Two months.

[Bradley]

Two months pregnant. Now he's like six months pregnant. Six months pregnant. Legs are for show. Guns are for dough. Guns are for dough. My inner. I like it. Best show on the webs. Appreciate it. We thank you guys. He said, they're saying you're bringing too much intellect to the game. Carl's a very, very intelligent guy. Very smart guy.

[Carl Anderson]

You are dumb as a box.

[Bradley]

You are not. I'm curious if you watch my podcast with him. Half the time I'm staring at the screen because I have no idea what the he's talking about because he's using these big.

[Carl Anderson]

Anybody who knows me who knew me in my twenties can tell.

[Bradley]

Tyler, should get onto your rt. Good night. From Haley. Yeah, Haley girls like big wallets. They do. Appreciate it, Christian.

[Carl Anderson]

That's my brother.

[Bradley]

Magnet looking swole. He is pretty big. Hey, don't with me. I offer to pay. They keep coming, they keep bringing me back. It's not my fault. Brent's great. Love Brent. Yeah. Tyler needs some Brent brain cells from Carl. Carl's very smart. I need some as well. I don't know anything about Lord of the Rings. Sorry, I didn't watch one second of it. Magnet is a big dude. Big guns. Big beer too.

[Tyler]

Ms. Rudy saying you have a soothing voice.

[Bradley]

I. I didn't realize that. Thank you. Thank you, Rudy.

[Carl Anderson]

Gay.

[Bradley]

It is gay. What's his song?

[Mike]

Soul Fly.

[Bradley]

Soul Fly.

[Mike]

Jump the up.

[Bradley]

Jump the up. Magnus got big arms, dude. Look at them things, man.

[Carl Anderson]

Soul Fly with the. The companion band of like, what was it? Sepultura.

[Mike]

It's a singer.

[Bradley]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bradley]

I'm becoming is the. If you search Carl Anderson Unbecoming on YouTube, you'll see the documentary. There's an episode on my Copville podcast and he has his own other page he just mentioned where he's breaking down police culture. We got another song coming. Hopefully one more. One more song coming. Yeah. You got too cheap. I can't read. So I can't read. The Lord of the Rings. Sorry. Cville is one lame. I agree. Where's everybody? Everybody's dying. Good night. Good night, Steven.

[Mike]

I can't see.

[Bradley]

Yeah, my voice. Really?

[Tyler]

That one. I can make it bigger.

[Bradley]

What's Biggie? Smalls and sepal turret? Tyler had to go up to the screen because he can't see. Are you gonna read them?

[Mike]

I, I. There's no one's putting anything good in.

[Bradley]

Oh, he said you guys suck. Tyler said you guys are terrible.

[Mike]

I can't see, though. I have to get close to the screen. Drew's in the chats. Shows better without that guy that looks like Brent and can't read. Chad. Drew, we miss you. Bradley's doing really good, though.

[Bradley]

Upside down pouches. In Tampa, we call that you're out of touch. That's the Copville. You're out of touch. Mike, the chicken legs cobbille is here. P. Diddy is guilty as afterparty is a drive home for me for two hours, I will tuck Tyler in and kiss him.

[Mike]

Oh, I thought that said please. Tyler.

[Bradley]

Damn, bro, you wore a highlighter in high school. Tyler, has your labia healed yet? Somebody asked if your labia has healed yet.

[Tyler]

They're asking.

[Bradley]

Yeah, we'll have to ask them. Tell Kermit. Bro, stop basing vaping. No, I'm not reading the one about that. Good try, Patrick. Way to go, Brad. You guys rock locks. The fans of Street Cop. How many advice for a fortune Wants to join the military, get a degree and do something better put on your silkies. I've seen two dudes 69 and that's less gay than leg day. I agree. Less gay than leg day. I agree. According to 18 third agency that's an honor. Just great work. Balance, life. It's offered direct hire for 25k. Pay cut. No good. I need guidance. Message me Ron Burgundy in the chat. Yes. If you want to see two dudes 16, he's probably been in SWAT. So if you've been in SWAT training, you've definitely seen two guys. 69. Because SWAT boys are gay.

[Carl Anderson]

Oh, and I want to say hi to my beautiful fiance who's watching me now. Michelle.

[Bradley]

Hello, Michelle. The best vocabulary to ever go on anti heroes loves you. You got the deep vocabulary. Haley is out of Florida. Haley mirabelli that back to Illinois. Goodbye three guys and zero leg day. I don't know. Carl's got big legs.

[Carl Anderson]

Nah. Scissor me SWAT leg day without shame.

[Bradley]

That Tyler. Hopefully the physical therapy with the taint injury is going well. That wasn't you. They think you got the taint. Yeah. Brent got the taint injury.

[Mike]

He tore his taint doing a rodeo.

[Bradley]

SWAT guys know how to breach. You fill in the blank. Yeah. They know how to reach around bunch of facts. They play with their little staccatos. Yeah. I was one too. I know you guys do. Is it Orange County?

[Mike]

Yeah. Opie.

[Bradley]

Oh, definitely. Definitely. They win every year too. He's got about three staccatos. He's got at least three staccatos.

[Mike]

Texas has been winning.

[Bradley]

No, they won like two years in a row.

[Mike]

Texas been killing it. They got a full time comp team. That's all they did. Orlando.

[Bradley]

Fastest dude I ever seen was Orlando. One of the dudes on my SWAT school ran like a 920 mile and a half. Flying dude. Smoking SWAT guys. Not a breed. Tyler, you want to go crazy? There it is.

[Mike]

That's it.

[Bradley]

Thank you.

[Mike]

Thank you, Fries, for joining us.

[Bradley]

Justice for Sal Oldradi.

[Mike]

Peace. See you next Thursday.