Squadcast (Live) 06/26/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast - Squadcast (Live) 06/26/2025

Release Date: June 27, 2025

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Introduction

The Antihero Podcast kicked off its live Squadcast episode with host Brent welcoming listeners to another engaging Thursday night session. The studio was bustling with personalities, including Jonathan Howard, a former Air Force JTAC turned real estate entrepreneur, alongside regular contributors Madden, Drew, and Tyler. The episode promised a mix of behind-the-scenes insights, personal stories, and spirited discussions.

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Guest Spotlight: Jonathan Howard on Stem Cell Treatments

Jonathan Howard shared his transformative journey from serving as a Joint Terminal Attack Controller (JTAC) in the Air Force to becoming a real estate mogul. A significant portion of the discussion revolved around his recent stem cell treatments aimed at alleviating long-term pain.

• Stem Cell Therapy Details:
  Jonathan mentioned undergoing stem cell injections for his neck, back, shoulders, and elbows in Tijuana, Mexico.
  “After the first week, my back pain was gone,” he revealed at [02:42].

• Miracle Hope Foundation:
  Jonathan gave a heartfelt shout-out to the Miracle Hope Foundation based in Nashville, Tennessee, which assists veterans in securing sponsorships for stem cell treatments.
  “They try to find sponsors to pay for your stem cell treatment,” he explained at [03:24].

• Impact on Quality of Life:
  He emphasized the rapid improvement in his pain levels, highlighting the effectiveness of the treatments.
  “I had a tear in each shoulder. I didn't even know until I went there,” he noted at [02:55].

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Controversial Topics: Critique of Tim Kennedy and Liver King

A heated segment unfolded as the hosts delved into controversies surrounding Tim Kennedy and Liver King.

• Tim Kennedy's Reputation:
  Drew questioned the integrity of Tim Kennedy, suggesting a lack of authentic military valor.
  “We have seen videos... it was so painful watching Tim try to explain,” Drew commented at [07:56].

• Liver King's Downfall:
  The discussion shifted to Liver King, focusing on his erratic behavior and legal troubles.
  “He's lost his mind. Stem cells ain't going to fix him,” John remarked at [07:58].

• Community Backlash:
  The hosts highlighted the negative reception within the veteran community towards these figures, emphasizing accountability and authenticity.

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Humorous Interactions and Pranks

The podcast didn't shy away from humor, sharing anecdotes and playful banter among the hosts and guests.

• Prank Stories:
  Drew recounted a memorable prank involving stem cells, which left him temporarily "handicapped."
  “They said, you’re not going to be able to do anything. I was basically handicapped,” he laughed at [05:34].

• Funny Moments on Air:
  Brent and Tyler shared laughs over past episodes, including a notorious moment from an Eddie Gallagher live segment where uncontrollable laughter took over.
  “The whole first 30 minutes... just us laughing,” Drew detailed at [37:53].

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Community Engagement: Audience Questions and Super Chats

Engaging with their audience, the hosts addressed numerous questions and comments, ranging from military tactics to personal opinions on current events.

• Tier One Units Comparison:
  Drew asserted the superiority of the US Delta Force over other international special units, citing training and operational efficiency.
  “The best in the world is the US Delta Force. No one is on par with us,” he declared at [12:04].

• Stolen Valor and Integrity:
  A significant portion of the dialogue focused on combating stolen valor, particularly critiquing Tim Kennedy's embellished military accolades.
  “I'll tear it now. I love Trump... nothing ever seems to back us up,” Brent expressed frustration at [10:04].

• Humanitarian Efforts and Military Operations:
  Discussions included the roles of special forces in humanitarian missions, with references to past operations like Operation Blue Ridge.
  “TK did not help us at all,” John criticized regarding Tim Kennedy’s involvement during Hurricane Helene at [177:49].

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Awards and Military Recognition Debate

A passionate debate arose around the legitimacy and distribution of military awards, questioning the criteria and potential biases in awarding honors like the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

• Valor vs. Duty:
  Drew emphasized that valorous actions should be recognized regardless of rank or role within the military.
  “Valor is valor regardless of who does it,” he asserted at [166:14].

• Political Influence on Awards:
  John criticized the politicization of military awards, highlighting discrepancies in recognition across different branches and ranks.
  “Leadership gets involved... they downgrade these guys awards,” he argued at [71:05].

• Purple Heart for PTSD:
  The hosts debated whether conditions like combat PTSD should merit recognition in the form of a Purple Heart, with differing opinions on mental health acknowledgments in the military.
  “PTSD is for the weak-minded. You don’t get anything extra for it,” Drew stated firmly at [168:49].

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Closing Remarks and Future Plans

As the episode drew to a close, the hosts expressed gratitude towards their listeners and teased future content.

• Merchandise and Charity:
  John showcased new merchandise, including T-shirts and coffee mugs, promoting sales to support military charities.
  “Every dollar you spend... supports military charities,” he mentioned enthusiastically at [153:11].

• Upcoming Episodes:
  Teasers included discussions on significant military events, stories from special forces veterans, and in-depth analyses of controversial figures like Tim Kennedy.
  “Watch Monday's episode where Pete Blaber gives a ground force commander's perspective,” Drew encouraged at [167:44].

• Community and Support:
  The hosts reiterated their commitment to supporting veterans and fostering a community that values truth and integrity.
  “Thank you for staying late. Another great Thursday night,” Drew concluded at [189:07].

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Notable Quotes

1. Jonathan Howard on Stem Cells:
   “After the first week, my back pain was gone.”
   [02:42]

2. Drew Critiquing Tim Kennedy:
   “Shit, I can see it now because at first I was like, you know, I thought he was kind of douchey...”
   [113:19]

3. Brent on Valor Awards:
   “Valor is valor regardless of who does it.”
   [166:14]

4. John on Political Influence:
   “Leadership gets involved... they downgrade these guys awards.”
   [71:05]

5. Drew on Community Accountability:
   “We can't all be quarterbacks. We need other players on the team.”
   [35:01]

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Conclusion

This episode of The Antihero Podcast offered a blend of personal narratives, critical discussions on military integrity, and lighthearted interactions. With insightful critiques of prominent figures and a strong emphasis on authenticity and support for veterans, the hosts continued to provide a platform for meaningful dialogue and community engagement.

For those interested in military operations, special forces dynamics, and candid conversations about veterans' experiences, this episode is a must-listen.

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Transcript

[Brent]

Oh, it's Thursday night squadcast Thursday nights for the boys. We're in studio. We've got Jonathan Howard, Air Force JTAC turned real estate guru. We got me, we got Brent, we got Madden, we got Drew, we got Patreon, people talking, Tim Kennedy breaking down some videos. Drew, roll the intro.

[Drew]

It's.

[Brent]

I can't see me. Can everybody else see me? All right, welcome back. Thursday night squadcast.

[Drew]

All right, welcome back.

[Tyler]

Oh, that wasn't me.

[Brent]

It wouldn't be a Thursday. Was that you?

[Drew]

No.

[John]

Was that you?

[Drew]

It was me. All right.

[Brent]

All right. Jonathan. Yes, Coming by.

[John]

I'm glad to be back, man. I had a good time last time. Excited to come back for the live episode.

[Brent]

Do you remember what. What number it was?

[John]

Oh, that I was on.

[Brent]

It was called Special Missions Unit.

[John]

Yeah, it was. It was called smu. It was back in February, right before I went to Japan.

[Brent]

Okay.

[John]

Yeah, actually right before I got stem cells down in Mexico.

[Brent]

You got stem cells?

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tijuana.

[Drew]

No, we're out in your body.

[John]

Oh, I got.

[Drew]

I don't care.

[Brent]

You want it to be exact?

[John]

Yeah, yeah, I got it. I did, I did my neck. I did my neck, my back, both shoulders, elbow, and then like a whole IV bag.

[Drew]

Where, where didn't they do?

[John]

Well, they, you know, there's. There's some places that they're getting ready to do. All right, Go back in August and so.

[Drew]

And, well, if you're going back, I'm.

[John]

Assuming you six month follow up. All right, so they do new MRIs to show you what they healed, and then they give you another IV bag of like 50 million stem cells.

[Drew]

Regardless of what the MRI says. What is? What is. What does the field test tell you? You feel like it was. It worked. Yeah, it's good.

[John]

I. I would say probably after the first week, I had literally no more back pain. Like, my back pain was gone, my neck pain was gone, which was weird because I had that feeling for, like, I don't know, 10, 15 years.

[Drew]

So it's weird not to have it.

[John]

Yeah, it's weird not having it because.

[Brent]

Usually the usual amount of pain I don't have.

[John]

I will say I'm. I'm just past my 90 day mark. And my right shoulder still, I can't lift on it, but it's good. But I had it. I had a tear in each shoulder. I didn't even know I had it until I went there.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's funny that, like, the meme that pops in my head, like, this is the new Normal. It's like I've been in a bad mood for three years now. I guess this is just me.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

You know, at some point, like, if you've been hurt, you know, or living hurt for so long, at some point, like, this is just the new normal. Yeah, this is the new normal. Yeah.

[John]

You know what I should do for your audience? So I should give a shout out to the foundation because what they do is they help pay for veterans to go get it. What they're called Miracle Hope foundation out of Nashville, Tennessee. And basically what they do is they try to find sponsors to pay for your. For your stem cell treatment. So you just go to, like, their website, Miracle Hope Foundation. You apply on there, you tell them, like, what injuries I have, and then they will basically go find you a sponsor to pay for your treatment. And what they try to at least do is get about half your treatment paid for. So.

[Tyler]

Me treatment?

[John]

Okay, so my total treatment, I think I paid about 40, 000 for my entire treatment, but they. They paid for half my treatment.

[Drew]

Right.

[John]

And then actually the wife, she went and got it done too, because she was a veteran, so she had, like, some back issues, so she got her back and shoulder done. But, yeah, me, her and Charlie. Charlie was a guy that did the rescue work with me in North Carolina, the Air Force tap guy. We went down there and got it done. It was amazing. But I will. I will tell you, the first 48 hours after you get done, like, man, you were hurting bad.

[Brent]

Oh, really?

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

Y. You fly down there.

[John]

We.

[Drew]

As in you flew it?

[John]

You know, I did not fly my plane. They told me I'd be hurting pretty bad. But what we did was since we went to Mexico, right after that, we took a trip over to Japan for a month and hung out there. So.

[Drew]

Right. And that's. And that's. That's the mogul part of a real estate mogul. If you guys are wondering what. What constitutes a mogul? Things like that.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Do you know if they'll inject stem cells right into your tank?

[John]

So they, they.

[Drew]

They.

[John]

They do do it right into your dick. That's the thing.

[Brent]

They.

[John]

They do it. So that's Right. You can get that done. Yeah.

[Drew]

Okay. What would that do for your dick for the people listening?

[John]

Apparently it won't make it grow lengthwise. They say you'll get a little more. A little girth. You get a little girth and what, you want me.

[Brent]

Tyler girth?

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah.

[John]

They said it'll be like you just hit puberty again, basically. You just want to play with it all the time. So.

[Tyler]

So nothing changes.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Girth and wanting to play with it all the time.

[John]

Play it all the time.

[Drew]

Yeah. I'm not paying. I'm not paying for that.

[John]

Some of the guys. I know that.

[Drew]

Yeah, I got that.

[John]

I was gonna get that done, but I couldn't because I got both my shoulders done. They're like, you're not going to be able to. To do anything. I mean, I was basically, like, handicapped.

[Drew]

For like, a week. Well, every now and again, I, I, I, I, I find 20 grand I don't know what to do with, and I might do that.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Well, I said, well, if I can find someone to pay half of it.

[John]

You can probably get most of. If not the whole thing paid for. They. They try to find someone to pay the entire. For you.

[Drew]

All right, Would. Would you sponsor me for the other house?

[John]

I could sponsor, yes. So what I'm told is they just go to, like, a lot of, like, they host, like, big events, like in places like Nashville, Malibu, and then they just kind of put out, like, hey, this is a veteran. Here's his back injury, knee injury. This is what we want to get done for him. And the, the place they get done in Mexico called cpi. It's the one that Joe Rogan uses. It's the one the UFC uses. So they got, like, a really big network of, like, pretty wealthy people that are, that are good about helping the veterans out.

[Drew]

Rogan, Joe Rogan.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

What is the UFC guy?

[John]

Joe Podcast.

[Brent]

Joe Rogan, ufc, Right.

[Drew]

Yeah, he's got that. He's got that. He's got that.

[John]

He's the one Liver King's all about right now.

[Drew]

Oh, what is going on with the loss?

[John]

He lost his mind.

[Drew]

I saw one video of him, and one of his pupil pupils was crazy dilated, and the other one wasn't. Was small.

[John]

So that's an injury.

[Drew]

And he, like, monkey crawled over to the camera. Yeah. And he was like, joe Rogan, we're gonna fight. I've called you out.

[John]

I saw where his mouth was blue, though. His teeth were blue.

[Drew]

He had, like, a big blue bruise on his forehead. He didn't. He does not look well. And I guess he got. He got arrested in Austin.

[John]

Someone in the comments was like, his wife's letting him videotape everything because this is going to help her in court.

[Drew]

Oh, hey, there's. I. I was. Someone had said I in the comment section because, you know, you got to go, right? The comment section when videos like that to get facts. And they're like, we haven't seen his wife and. And kids like, for a while. Like, do we know? Like, they're okay? And that's actually like a. Seriously. What was that wrestler that went crazy? He was like, maybe. Maybe he been wadam. You know, And I was like, oh, my gosh. That's actually.

[John]

Yeah, that dude's lost it.

[Drew]

Yeah, he's lost it.

[John]

Yeah. Stem cells ain't going to fix him.

[Drew]

Yeah, no, no, no, that's. I forgot about it.

[Brent]

I don't understand how challenging somebody to a fight, though, is. Terroristic threats.

[John]

I think he may have said. He must have said something else.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John]

I mean, he's out, like, later.

[Drew]

He's gonna be a. There will be a documentary of him, of the rise and fall of the Liver King. And it's going to be amazing.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And we're watching. You know, it won't be as good as Tiger King. That. That little gay guy is so annoying. But the Tiger King was so, so entertaining to watch. I hate to say it. Yeah. It's a train wreck. You cannot stop watching.

[John]

Oh, you have it. Oh, you should. I felt the same way. I was like, I'm not watching this. And the wife was like, baby, you have to watch it. So I was like, fine, I'll watch it. And like 10 minutes later, my phone was down and I was just sitting there watching it.

[Drew]

It took me until Covid. Until I watched it. So I didn't like watch it when everyone else was. I was the same way. I was like, I'm not watching that. And then covet hit and we were stuck for a weeks. And I was like, sure, yeah. Watched it straight through. All right.

[John]

It's good. It's really good.

[Drew]

And they had it. Then they had a season two which was. Which was, yeah, pretty much just as good.

[John]

He still. He still tweets out to Trump trying to get pardon here and there, so.

[Brent]

Prison phone.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah, I'd pardon them. I pardon that guy. Yeah, we've pardoned worse people.

[John]

It's Pride Month.

[Tyler]

They only promises to make another season, right?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

This country album, oh, my gosh, Sully.

[Tyler]

11234 says you've been critical of rich and powerful people. Tim Kennedy, Rob O' Neill, etc. Have you faced backlash from them legally or by other means? How would you respond if you did?

[Drew]

Great question, because it leads me to this. If Rob o' Neill and Tim Kennedy and heck, we'll throw Marcus Lutrell into this. If anything, we said wasn't true, they'd have slapped a lawsuit on us so fast. And it made our head spin for. Am I forgetting this word right now? For libel.

[John]

Defamation.

[Drew]

For defamation. Yeah. They haven't. Because the worst thing they could ever do is put a lawsuit on us and then force everyone that we talked to that didn't want to come on and just give us information. Now, they would be subpoenaed, and not only would they be embarrassed on the social media platform of what we did, then they would be embarrassed in a court of law. So, no, we've. We've faced zero backlash. And that's what happens when you tell the truth and you make sure that you don't just tell things that you think are true or hope are true, but you do your due diligence. And we have faced zero backlash because everything we've said has been true.

[John]

And they don't want to go to court because if they go in there and then actually lie, then they're going to get punitive damages.

[Drew]

Oh.

[John]

And other legal charges. On top of that, there was a.

[Drew]

Because we talked about that a little bit. Because I thought if someone would do what I thought Tim would.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And. And we talked about. Then I had that epiphany, and I was like, hold on. I hope. I hope he does. Because everything we said was right.

[John]

You know, speaking of Liver King, Rise and Fall, there'll be a TK Rise and Fall series coming out soon. One day. Yeah. He'll probably start posting videos like him crawling around the whole way.

[Drew]

I hope so.

[Brent]

Tucker, I challenge you to a fight.

[Drew]

I'll say it right. I'll say it right now because I don't care. Because of him and his DC Shenanigans, I really was. I was gonna let it lie, but I'm back on the hunt, back making phone calls. This thing's far from done. If he's gonna try to embarrass us as veterans.

[Brent]

Yeah, now he's representing the entire community.

[Drew]

He's gonna try to embarrass us as veterans up in D.C. well, maybe it's time for a more than just one chapter of your book.

[Tyler]

We got solely says, how many countries in the world have tier one or Special Forces units on par with the US do they include adversaries like Russia, China, or Iran?

[Drew]

People aren't gonna like this answer. Some will and some of you like, he's just saying that there are none. There are. No. No. As much as I respect the sas, as much as I respect Kansoff, as much as I respect. And you go. You go on downloads. There are a lot of tier one units I respect. The best in the world is the US Delta Force. And when. And I've seen it with my own eyes, it's absolutely true. They're the best in the world. No one is absolutely on par with us. And I've seen videos. Yeah, it's videos, but I've seen videos of. Of Spetsnaz and their tier one units and them thinking like, hey, this is a cool guy video. Let's put this out. And I. I know it's small, but, like, they're. They're doing HALO jumps out into. Into the snow. Just watching them exit the airplane and guys are kind of going sideways and. And not. Not staying on heading tells me everything I need to know. That these guys. If you can't exit an airplane on heading, you. You're not doing the small things, right? You're not on par.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

You're not on par. And they released that video to the world like, this is. This is who we are. And their exits are horrible.

[Tyler]

I'm not wrong. Still, I think we still got music coming out.

[Drew]

And. And ask. Ask Ukraine if. If Russia. Tier 1 units are. Are what they think they are.

[Tyler]

All right, Everyday American, I'm sassy tonight.

[Drew]

Let's go.

[Tyler]

Let's do it. Oh, man. Are you serious?

[Brent]

Glad to see you guys roasting TK some more. Do you guys think I could steal some valor for a Medal of Honor and then get a cabinet position?

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah, I think. I mean, at this point, like, why would you think that you couldn't get away with it?

[Brent]

Corey Mills.

[Drew]

Oh, gosh. How's. I didn't even mention that name.

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

Corey Mills did it. Rob. Rob o' Neill's doing it. Tim Kennedy do it. Did it. John McPhee is doing it right now. What? Why would you think that you couldn't.

[Tyler]

Joshua Burkhouse says, good evening, gentlemen. Glad to see everybody smiling and breathing on Tim Kennedy. How is it that he has maneuvered his way into not only the White House, but has now become an overall spokesperson? What a piece of shite.

[Brent]

Yeah. They're not listening to the military say, please don't listen to this man. Like, I don't know if their comments are turned off or they just.

[Drew]

No kidding. I will. I mean, you can't stop it. I will give this tidbit. I will. I will tell you that I know for a fact there is a petition going around the special Forces groups for guys to sign to get Tim Kennedy's pulled. Tab pulled.

[John]

Nice.

[Drew]

How big of a How big of a piece of do you have to be to where different groups are TR are actively trying to get a petition to get your tab pulled.

[John]

Isn't he still in the Guard though?

[Drew]

He's still in the Guard.

[John]

He sure is, yeah. Wow.

[Drew]

Which is crazy. I'd have to know the specifics, but he had like a in his 250th anniversary time frame, he had a USASAK patch on and a uses a flash on his beret. Last I heard he was in the Maryland Guard. I don't know why he has that on and why that's authorized. I hope that that is authorized from the wear but a part of me thinks that he didn't want to wear the National Guard one but that he wanted to wear an active duty one and just sue a spontaneous like I can wear whatever I sounds like Tim Kennedy, but I don't know that and I say things like that like I don't know and I don't know and that's why we've never been sued. But that's a question.

[Tyler]

I got interesting hot sauce and rocket launchers. Question for Tanika.

[Drew]

Two random things.

[Tyler]

Tanika, that's you. Tyler, as a cop, what lie do you hear the most? A, well, they were speeding too. B, these aren't my pants. And see, I'm not stealing. I'm just borrowing, man.

[Brent]

The biggest lie is I'm on my way to the DMV right now.

[Drew]

Right, right, right.

[Tyler]

John John Huggleson says remember the days the D boy was invited as a guest and performed a hostile takeover. The podcast visiting Orlando from Georgia I4 is a disaster. Welcome to Florida. And you can't get good barbecue here. Try sunnies. You two might be the best thing going around here.

[Drew]

Thank you, John.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

What are you doing in Florida? Get over here.

[Tyler]

Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

Get in the studio, brother. Thursday night you just saved yourself 20 bucks. You could have just said that right to us.

[Tyler]

Matt Burn 88 says just ordered my anti hero podcast shirt three days ago. Can't wait to it to rock it up here in North Carolina. California. That's North California.

[Drew]

Might as well we slapping the table on that on that tank top design. It was on my list of things and I was going to talk to you about it and I forgot to. All right, we're going to send it.

[Brent]

We have the design.

[Drew]

We have designed.

[Brent]

We just got to make I like it tank tops for the boys.

[Tyler]

I think I missed one magnum handout. Brent, any idea when the Delta limited editions camo cigar boxes will be back in stock. Tried the Deltas and love them. Really wanted to get the books.

[Drew]

Yes, they should be. We have plenty of cigars. It was the boxes themselves we ran out of. You know what? Hurry up. I will. Drew, when you go home, I'm gonna give you this box right here. And we'll have. And we'll have one online tonight. In fact, you know what? Hey, I'm gonna put one available right now, and I hope you're the first one to it.

[Brent]

Watch somebody beat him. Somebody's already online.

[Drew]

I know, but I'm doing it right now for you. Right now. Put one online. It'll come in this box, and I'll sign it for you.

[Tyler]

And I just changed the price to a thousand dollars. Droopy balls, for 50 bucks, can we get an anti hero Spotify playlist of the closing songs?

[Drew]

That would be a bad idea.

[Tyler]

And closing song. Looking down the Barrel of Today by Hatred, Hate, Dread, Hate Breed, Hate Breed. There's no B in there.

[Brent]

Well, I think.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right, there it is. 50 bucks for barrel of today.

[Drew]

It's. It's there. It's done. There is. There is one box available.

[Tyler]

Oh, sorry.

[Drew]

Drew, you got the. The Sharpie over there? Was it. Was it over there somewhere?

[Tyler]

Magnet has it.

[Drew]

Yeah. Good. I keep going. Sorry, my bad. Nailed it. I thought I had it. I airballed it. I thought I should add that.

[Brent]

What are we doing?

[Drew]

All right, go ahead, Drew.

[Tyler]

Okay. Joe Saunder says. Sorry, just joined. Are you all doing donations so you can puberty all over again? Confused. So are we.

[John]

Yeah, that was definitely a five dollar question.

[Tyler]

Are you doing donation so you can puberty all over again?

[Brent]

A puberty all over you. Oh.

[Tyler]

Oh, the stem cells. Okay.

[John]

Oh, so. Oh, okay. Okay.

[Drew]

Okay.

[John]

Got it, got it. Yeah.

[Drew]

Send that over to Tyler.

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Papa Shaw says, how it going, boys? Having a good night. Also, Bernard, can you use stem cells on your taint? My buddy says hi from the Netherlands.

[John]

Oh, yeah. You can get stem cells anywhere. Pretty much. I mean, I don't think. There's no place they won't do it.

[Brent]

I want to get hair plugs in Colombia. Say they the whole trip. The flights, the hotel, the operation, the flights back set, like seven grand.

[Drew]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not gonna pretend or. Because I'm not. I'm not happy with my hairline. It's. It's retreating. It's retreating.

[John]

Let's see it. Let's take a look at it. Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah. Let's take a look at what's. Yeah.

[John]

Someone give this man some money for. For some hair plugs. Actually, that looks pretty good. Oh, no, no, no.

[Drew]

Look at that. That's. That's. Look what is going on here? I don't. I don't like it. It's getting worse. I. I am not against hair plugs. I've looked at it. I thought about it. I know some other people will, like, I don't know, like, guys don't want to talk about it, right? Like, we inject ourselves to. To make ourselves better in whatever way. Stem cells, testosterone, whatever. So I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Yeah. I'd like luscious hair like yours.

[Brent]

I want it. I want it.

[John]

I mean, yeah, you got the nice long, wavy hair.

[Drew]

I know, but who cares how long it is in the back if you got this retreating hairline? This is Peninsula hanging out.

[John]

Let's all go to Mexico and get our tanks done. Taints and hair.

[Drew]

For seven grand, you get a Colombia. Yeah, there's other places better than that.

[John]

I know.

[Drew]

Turkey influencers, everybody's gone, but I know you have to. I think you have to shave your head to do it. Oh, no, I don't like the idea of that. But hey, if it comes back what built. If it builds back better.

[Brent]

You'Ll be the first one. They go, oh, no, we messed up.

[Drew]

I know. And I'm not gonna hide it. I'm gonna let you guys know if I do. I'm like, hey, well, you'll know because. Because I'll have no hair for a little bit.

[John]

We could just tell everybody we're getting bbls.

[Drew]

Yeah, I'm not hiding it.

[Tyler]

Hot sauce and rocket launchers back in. He says we need FRCC in the 51st state ASAP. Bruce, that Canada? Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, oh, we're trying. In fact, I'm talking to a Canadian distributor right now, and he said he wants to do like a launch in Ontario and asked me if I'd come up to do it. I said, send me some dates. I would be interested. I've never been to Canada.

[Brent]

Me neither.

[Drew]

Yeah, so I'd be interested. So we. There's a good chance that it's coming your way.

[John]

Nice.

[Tyler]

Danny says, brent, I heard that you had trouble passing the 40 mile ruck on selection, so you called Drew and he finished it for you.

[Drew]

You guys get that reference? Yeah, the older tr. When you're having a hard time, call your brother in. Oh, man, I'm telling you, that to me If, If. If really being honest, I. That's as big as a story, as the lone survivor story. That's crazy. And they admit to it.

[John]

How do they do it?

[Drew]

That during buds, he called his brother in to give him a break, and his brother did it, and we're all like, that's cool. No big deal. That's crazy. And I get it. I'll give somewhat. Give him a pass. I mean, I did stupid things, you know, when I was young. I'm not the same person now than I was when I was, like, 25, but that's still crazy.

[Brent]

Risk it all.

[Drew]

Oh, that's crazy.

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Only in the Navy. Holden two dicks says it's funny every time. What's up, Trevor? And Brandon is TK training the idf because there's a lot of wounded kids in Gaza. Also, also his presentation he did sucked arse. I literally got dumber watching it.

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh. Did you see by chance, Valhalla VFT broke it down. He whiteboarded. Oh, yeah. What it takes to build a nuke. And it was the most painful thing I think I've ever watched. He basically was like, we need four things. Like, you need. You need a cook, you need ingredients, you need. You need the hardware. It's like pots and pans. And he just stumbles through this whole thing. And I'm like, yeah, hell yeah. I'm like that. It's. Oh, And. And Nate from Valhalla just roasts them the whole way. But it's so painful watching Tim try to explain a nuclear program.

[Brent]

Right, Tim, stay in your lane. You're not.

[Drew]

I knew how long did it take him to the whiteboard? Like, that was all written out day by day with day. Oh, my gosh. It was so painful. It. Do you ever remember, like, when. Oh, gosh, now I'm forgetting his name. Beck, the conservative Mormon, something. Beck had. His fox. Was a fox guy for a while.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Drew]

Glenn Beck used to do. Used to do whiteboards like that. But when Glenn Beck did it, it was awesome. Because Glenn Beck, whatever you think about him, he's a. He's. He's a smart guy and he's well educated, and he takes his show very serious, and there's a lot of research, and he presents it very well. It was the worst version of Glenn Beck of. Ever seen.

[Tyler]

Breast Tucker?

[Drew]

I wasn't expecting that one.

[Tyler]

And spoiler. Serious question. I don't understand.

[Drew]

Spoiler.

[Tyler]

F. K. Mary kl.

[John]

Mary Kill.

[Drew]

All right.

[John]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Who's Mary Kill?

[Brent]

No, no.

[Drew]

Yeah. You gotta screw One marry one, kill the other.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay.

[Drew]

Oh, gosh.

[Tyler]

It's been a long time.

[Drew]

Three dudes.

[Tyler]

Tim. Tim Kennedy, Robbo, Neil, Marcus, Latrell.

[John]

Go.

[Tyler]

Love the show, boys.

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh.

[Brent]

Thanks for asking.

[Drew]

That's.

[Brent]

Whoa.

[Drew]

What a. I'm just. I'm just gonna say what a. What a dick move.

[John]

I mean, that is.

[Drew]

You know, You. You know what you just did there.

[John]

There's no winning there.

[Drew]

There's no win. Yeah, there's no win. Usually there's some, like, best case scenario when they send this out. There's. It's a lose all three. There's no way you shuffle them.

[Brent]

Yeah, whatever you say. I'm gonna clip it, so.

[Drew]

I can't. Yeah, doesn't matter. They're. Whatever name you want to throw there. They're all bad. God.

[John]

I mean, I think. I think you got to pick, though, Jonathan.

[Drew]

Okay. Okay.

[John]

That way he can flip it.

[Drew]

All right.

[John]

Brent wants to marry Tim Kennedy.

[Drew]

Okay, give it to me. We'll. We'll start with. We'll start with Mary. This is gonna be crazy, but it'll probably be Tim, because he is. I think he is, like, a nice guy, so I think he'd be a good, submissive wife.

[John]

That's right.

[Drew]

Rob. Rob's a redhead, so you gotta kill him. Has no soul. Marks the trail.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

That's what you got left. It's what you got. He's Navy, so just process by elimination. It's what I got. So how much was that? Whatever. It was not worth me having to say that in front everyone. How much?

[Brent]

20 bucks.

[Drew]

20?

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

TBD. 20 bucks says, why hasn't TK had his tab pulled yet? Is it just political protection from the Rogan sphere? Also, in a battle for biggest liar, is it Tim Kennedy, John McPhee, or Tony Cowden?

[Brent]

Oh, goodness gracious. Tim.

[Drew]

Tim. Yeah.

[Brent]

The Valor.

[Drew]

I think the Valor, Tim, covers a wide range from Afghanistan, false Ukraine faults, Child Rescue Operations faults, North Carolina. You may know something about that.

[John]

He never did anything false.

[Drew]

Yep. And then wartime faults. So he covers the spectrum.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

You know, the other guys just kind of focus big lies into one thing, you know?

[John]

Even, like, when I came on here back in February, I was kind of, like, a little standoffish with it, but, like, the more I started watching his social media and then seeing this whole political thing, I'm just like, I don't feel sorry for this guy at all now. Now I just want to blast Tyler.

[Drew]

You let me know it was a good time. But not everyone's seen his episode. If you don't mind. Yeah, I'd like John to tell the story. The TK story, because the TK episode one more time. Does that be now, when everything's.

[Brent]

Yeah, Let me do this first.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

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[John]

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[Brent]

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[Tyler]

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[Brent]

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[Drew]

No, keep going. I was just giving you some backup songs.

[Brent]

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[Tyler]

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[Brent]

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[Tyler]

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[John]

Hey, can we. Can we open up the blue one? Can I try the blue one? I want to try the blue one out. Because the red one's delicious.

[Drew]

I think we're gonna start doing that more often.

[Brent]

So good.

[Drew]

Tasty. Just throw in our own backup music.

[Tyler]

Jingles, extra. All right, so like, 1, 2, 3, 4. Back in. Would a better quality of Delta soldier be produced if they had a jungle phase in their selection like the sas? SAS soldiers often say this is the hardest part of their selection.

[Drew]

That's true, but it's. It's an odd question to say. Would we have a. A better. You know, a better. What was the word to use Form a soldier for a better quality soldier.

[Tyler]

Soldier be produced.

[Drew]

Yeah, we're already the better quality. Yeah, we're already the best in the world. Why would we change anything? We're the best in the world.

[Brent]

You literally cannot get better.

[Drew]

No, because we're the best in the world, so why would we do something the second best in the world does? And that's not a hit on the ses. I'll say it. I'll never get tired of saying how much I respect those guys. But why would we. Why would we do something?

[Brent]

Cross training only benefits them.

[Drew]

No, that's. That's actually a good question. The cross. I. We brought Shields to the unit because of the sas. In fact, not toot my own horn, but I'm the one who brought Shields to the unit, and I brought Shield to the unit because of the British sas. So now that you can still learn, you know, you can still learn things from. From number two. Hell, you can learn things from number 10. You know, I think you can go to the NFL. You can learn anything from. From any team in. In the NFL. I don't appreciate that comment, but it was. But it didn't. It didn't back me up. But. But I stand by what I said.

[Tyler]

Joe, for 10 bucks, wants to know, what did John McPhee do?

[Drew]

What did he do?

[John]

That's the Sheriff of Baghdad, right?

[Drew]

That's the sheriff of sob. Sheriff, I believe is his name.

[John]

He's the one that recruited T.K.

[Drew]

He did. He did recruit T.K. and I don't know if that says. No, I would say I don't know if that says a whole lot about him. I'm gonna retract that statement. And one idiot. I think that says everything about him, because him and Team K, him and TK Seem to be birds of the. Of a. Of the same feather. What did he do? He did. He did a few combat rotations in gag, which. Which should have been good enough. And then he got fired and he went over to seventh group. He did one combat rotation there, and then he eventually retired. And then nothing was ever good enough. And he told a whole bunch of lies about all the things that he's done and hyped up everything to make a name for himself. That's what he's done.

[Tyler]

There you have it, Sully. 1, 2, 3, 4. £, 499. UK SAS and SBS have a joint selection. What's SBS?

[John]

Special Boat Service.

[Tyler]

All right. Would it be better If Delta and ST6 had a joint selection? Better for who?

[Drew]

I've said this before, and I know it's a little bit controversial, but. But I. I still stand by. I think we should only have one tier, one unit. I do. I think we should only have one.

[Brent]

Decided by a volleyball game.

[Drew]

The problem is we're the only one that really has like, a. Like a selection process, if you will. Like they consider. So we have selection and this is widely known, obviously, in West Virginia. It's like a month long. And then we have, you know, eight months, however long it is. Otc. And we just call that otc. They. They kind of call their OTC Green team. They call that, like. So they consider that selection. So their selection process is really a couple preliminary things and a board. And if you. And if you pass that, then you go to their green team, which is their selection. So I would. I would. I think. I think we should. I think we should. We should combine forces. Everyone go to one selection and. And do one tier, one unit. I mean, they don't dive anymore, so, you know that. They don't. They. They. We're very similar. And again, there's no. There's no country out there that has one of either one of those. And we have two. So I don't. I don't think there's enough busy work to warrant both of them, to be honest with you.

[Brent]

Do you think it ever gets political?

[Drew]

Of course it does.

[Brent]

When. When I'm not even being dramatic, when the president's like, I need this done, and he goes to his people and go, who's gonna do it? Is it get political when they pick a team?

[Drew]

No. Well, if some things get political and the, the reason why neither one would ever. Would. Would ever disband is because the Navy's never let that happen. The Army's never gonna let that happen. Someone's gonna, you know, they. There's too much at stake. But, no, the missions are already cut and dry. There's. There's. There's already certain indicators that say, okay, it's. It's. It's this, it's that, it's where, okay, like, there's a diagram that goes down, it falls with them. There's. There's never time. They look at each other and go, who are we gonna send? Yeah, it's cut and dry.

[John]

That probably answers a question I got then, because I was always told if it was gonna be something in the media, they would use ST6 for it. They would never use Delta, or they would just never say it was.

[Brent]

They want to write a book about it.

[Drew]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. The truth of that is gonna. Is. Is not gonna bode well for guys like Rob o' Neill who's like, oh, well, they sent us us because we're better. And if you want people killed, you send SEAL Team Six. Okay, Rob, settle down, buddy.

[Tyler]

Everyday American says, let's get the pardon Larry Vickers train going, brent, how do you feel about the photos that leak from time to time of Delta guys in kit and plain clothes? I think it's bad arse, but I'm not sure how your community feels about it.

[Drew]

Everyone's gonna have a different opinion on this. If it's old enough, I don't care. I hope I do a good job of either saying what's. What's open source or talking about things that are old enough that, that, that it doesn't matter. But as long as it's not very recent, I don't have a problem with it.

[Tyler]

Solely. Back in again. How important is a sense of humor? What are the best examples of it in your former professions? Also, funniest moments on your podcast.

[Brent]

I like solely by the way, I appreciate your brother. We had a. I think this is the one that lined up like eight of them at the beginning of the last live. Yeah, we couldn't get to him.

[Drew]

Oh, really?

[Brent]

And he asked. I was like, man, we can't. We can't do eight back to back.

[Drew]

It's just.

[Brent]

It's too fast based on the show. So we worked it out where we could.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Brent]

Sense of humor in any.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's everything.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. You can't. I. I could not enjoy work if. If I was with people with no sense of humor.

[John]

No, it sucks so bad. You just gotta joke.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think at the hardest times of, of whatever training or combat situations I've been in, I think me and, you know, in fact, I say. I know. Me and the guys looked at each other and just. And just laughed. You know, like, you have to have a sense of humor when something's so funny.

[John]

Yeah. It's so bad. You just have to laugh.

[Drew]

Funniest moment in our podcast. That's a good one. We've had a lot of funny moments.

[Brent]

Usually it's the live.

[Tyler]

We had a really funny one last week and the guy did the. The repeat Pete question.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

And Eddie was like, I was dying laughing.

[Drew]

I got. I got two. And I'm gonna butcher the second one. That one, we laughed. The, the whole, like, first 30 minutes of the Eddie Gallagher live was just. If I re. Watched it and it was just us.

[John]

Laughing the whole time, I'm gonna be stood up.

[Brent]

And you said, eddie, I said stand up.

[Drew]

But the other one has to do about alive is what do you call when Navy SEALs shoot at drug dealers or something like that? And I was like, you know, fratricide. And I was like, oh, because this came out of nowhere. That one. That one was really Funny. I even tagged Sean Ryan on it. He even joined it. Yeah, that was. That one struck me as really funny.

[Tyler]

All right, OB says, Brent, have you ever seen the video of Larry Vickers with the Russian SOF guys on the range with live fire and human targets?

[Drew]

No, I haven't seen that.

[John]

Who's Larry Vickers?

[Brent]

I don't know.

[Drew]

So Larry Vickers was an old school unit guy.

[John]

Okay.

[Drew]

Like, probably get it wrong. 80s, maybe 90s unit operator. For sure.

[Tyler]

Mr. Plight. 20 bucks. Brent, I got a good book for you. Killer Elite by Michael Smith. It's a super interesting story. Finally read Beckwith's book. It was amazing.

[Brent]

Plate designs in his book books.

[Drew]

I know. Give me a second. I'm gonna look it up. I'm pretty sure I already read Killer Elite.

[Tyler]

Killer Elite by Michael Smith.

[Drew]

I'm almost positive I've already read Killerly. I gotta go look at my library. I bet I have.

[Tyler]

Juan Zulu says question for Brett. Brett, did you ever get to work with Master Sergeant Kevin Holland and Sergeant Major Thomas Payne? Thoughts of getting them on the show? Love the show.

[Drew]

So Kevin Holland was in a different squadron than me and a little bit before me, but I've worked with them via, like, the Sentinel Foundation. Sergeant Major Thomas Payne, who I refer to as Pat. Me and Pat spent a lot of time in the same exact squadron doing the same exact things, and love that guy. I've asked. I've asked both of them to be on the show. Actually, we've talked about this before. Kevin Holland didn't want to come on because he had done a podcast before and kind of got. Didn't have a very good experience with it. And. And Pat, even though he's in the media, he just. He's. He's like. He just doesn't feel comfortable doing it. Like, he's like, I don't like. He hates doing it. Doesn't feel comfortable doing it. He's like, if I get to a point where. Where I feel like I can. He said he would, but. And I get that.

[Brent]

I think that because we give speeches.

[Drew]

Like, everything's, like, prepared, you know, so to come on, like, a show and have to, like, talk from the hip. He's very aware of what the Medal of Honor, I think it weighs heavy on him.

[Brent]

Yeah. There. Mr. Ballin, when he became kind of popular, he explained, like, I started talking SEAL stories, and he's like, for some reason, at that time, only certain seals were allowed to come out on social media, and I was not one of them. That's why I went to stories, because you know, and I was like, man, like, it's just like, I mean, it's like I, I mean, law enforcement, like, I go and I do this, but I know there's, there's just certain cops that try, if they tried to do this, they would be shut down within probably two episodes by their agency.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

So I, I do think that some people are just given like grace to do it. And other people, it's like, what are you doing that for?

[Drew]

For sure that, that there's, there's a lot of unspoken rules to this, which is annoying because it's unspoken and you, and, which means you're just, you're just supposed to know them one and, and, and I don't know. And some people are, are just the golden boys of sorts. They can do whatever they want and other ones and other ones can't. And I think that's to some degree why they keep it unspoken. So they can, so they can sit there and play their favorites.

[Brent]

Yes.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's very annoying.

[Brent]

Do you think that some people in any profession, do you think that after they retire they should stop with their gatekeeping opinions about what anybody else that's retired should do, or do you think that they, they earned their place to be able to say people in our profession should not do this?

[Drew]

I have mixed emotions about that. I feel like I could argue both sides of that argument. You know, that's a tough one, to be honest with you. And I'm, and if everyone would just do the right things for the right reasons, it'd work out, but that's just not, it's just not how it is.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Mike Bone says thoughts on LA County Sheriff tweeting out sympathies to the Iranian victims, quote unquote, deleting that tweet after backlash, then tweeting out a half arse apology.

[Brent]

I didn't know if that was real or not.

[Drew]

I don't know what's real anymore.

[John]

Isn't he the guy running for governor?

[Brent]

Of course. Probably.

[John]

All right, there's a, there's LA or there's a California.

[Brent]

That sounds like I want to be a governor.

[Tyler]

Only idiots run for governor there anyway.

[Drew]

Yeah, there's another one that just fires me up. So, like the deputy mayor or whatever the official title is of, of la. Did you see the video she put out? Basically calling on all the gangs to rise up against ice. And it was like, you say these are your neighborhoods, you say these are your streets, yet you let these people come in and take, you know, and.

[John]

Take our people I did not see that last night.

[Drew]

She's. And she's kind of talking all ghetto.

[Brent]

The FBI should arrest her immediately.

[John]

Oh, yeah?

[Drew]

How is that legal? To essentially be a. A public figure and ask for the gangs to rise up and. And fight it out with ICE doing their legal job?

[Brent]

And I know that the FBI is not going to do anything because the FBI sat and did nothing when John Mattingly, his life was taken. Not life was taken out. His contract was taken out for him to be killed.

[Drew]

That's true.

[Brent]

They had proof that it happened. And they said, well, arresting Breonna Taylor's mom wouldn't look good right now.

[Drew]

So I don't care what looks good. That's so crazy. I do know she's under investigation for that, but what does that mean? I don't know. Doesn't give me any. Doesn't. Because I am a little bit, you know, cynical because nothing ever happens. What does that mean, you under investigate? What are you gonna do? Do more than that. But, yeah, that's. That's a real thing that happened.

[Tyler]

Speaking of leadership, New York got a great mayor.

[Drew]

Well, he's not the mayor yet. He just.

[John]

I saw the Como guy dropped out, so I guess it's just him running or something.

[Drew]

Is. He's a Democrat?

[Tyler]

I was being sarcastic for all the chats.

[Brent]

Oh, okay.

[Drew]

Oh, but yeah, that's true. So he's the. Is. Is the New York City mayor right now. The. The black guy? What's his name? Yes. Yes. Yeah, he changed from a Democrat to an independent. Okay. After the whole backlash with ICE when he went against the Democratic Party. So he's still running just under easy incumbent. Yes. Okay. And he's the incumbent. I see. For whatever reason, Eric Adams, probably. You're still. Still winning that. I don't see a Republican carrying that. That city anymore. You know, the Rudy Giuliani days are way over, but this guy's an outspoken socialist.

[Brent]

Really?

[Drew]

And there's a part of me that's like, you know what? I hope he wins this. This is. If this is what you elect, this is what you deserve.

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Getting what they asked for.

[John]

I mean, people are acting like they're surprised New York's a hole. I mean, they. They literally elected aoc.

[Drew]

Oh, you beat me too.

[John]

You know, I mean, like, is anyone actually surprised? I mean, like.

[Drew]

But here's the thing. Don't. Don't. Don't be upset about what your city does and then come down here to Florida up in New York City. My Florida. Don't do it. Don't do it.

[Brent]

Who do we say was right?

[John]

John Rocker, like we were talking about earlier. John Rocker, man, he was just 20 years ahead of his time. Yeah, I mean, like, he didn't say anything wrong.

[Drew]

You went wrong.

[John]

He was just ahead of his time.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

You know, now people have social media. They see the videos. They see what New York really is. I mean, like, I don't.

[Drew]

Yeah, is. Is. Is John coming on the show?

[John]

I hope to get him on for you guys, man.

[Drew]

I'd love to talk.

[John]

He's a buddy of mine up in the Panhandle. We'll go play golf and see the gym and stuff. I mean, he's a great guy, man. Like, good heart. Loves veterans. Loves veterans. He actually did some house building for veterans. Really? Yeah. He's a good. Good dude.

[Drew]

Love to hear it.

[Tyler]

All right. TK has been doing interviews on Fox News etc. While wearing his uniform. Wouldn't he have to be authorized to do that from his command?

[Brent]

Yes.

[John]

I think Rangers lead the way.

[Drew]

Drew, look at you.

[John]

It.

[Tyler]

Got it.

[Brent]

I think short answer is yes.

[Drew]

I don't. He's.

[Brent]

If you rep. I don't know.

[Drew]

He does whatever he wants with impunity. Tell me. Tell me another soldier that can lie about war crimes, that can lie about valorous medals, that can lie about Purple Hearts, that can go to Afghanistan and completely f up a whole military operation and just go unscathed. So why couldn't he wear a uniform on. On Fox News and do whatever he wants?

[John]

I mean, doesn't a lot of this come down to his actual leadership at the Maryland Guard? Like, I feel like the CSM and the commander there should be like, hey, man, bring it back. Get out of uniform. Get out of social media. Like, what are you doing?

[Drew]

Right?

[John]

That. That kind of. To me, that. I mean, that falls on them.

[Drew]

It's.

[Brent]

I think it's. I think too far gone for that.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

It's gonna have to take the Army.

[Drew]

I know. I mean, the guy's got the sergeant major, the army's friends with him. The president just tweeted. Thanks to him and someone else for a good.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, Trump.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

I knew I should have voted for Kamala.

[Brent]

Damn it.

[Tyler]

Thanks to TK And o' Neill, people ask if I was a SEAL when I tell them I was in the Navy. Nope. Sorry. I was a cook.

[Drew]

Does the Navy do more than just seals?

[Brent]

I think they drive boats.

[John]

There's some sweat, guys.

[Drew]

That's right. We gotta. We got a. We got a boat driver right here in studio. Hey, do you do you remember what's what? What's the nomenclature of those boats? Those riverboats? What do you want to call them? What is it? Sock Rs. How much horsepower those things got? It's a random question. Do they rate them in horsepower?

[John]

A couple of Mercury's on the back.

[Drew]

What's that? Twin diesel engines. 440 horsepower each. Damn near a thousand horsepower. Freedom.

[John]

I've always wanted to ride on one of those. Oh, for sure, because they had those guys up in Mississippi, close to where I was at. Herbert.

[Drew]

Oh, I thought you get on it and just throw everyone out the boat.

[John]

I mean, what do they got? They got a couple miniguns on them. They got. What else they got on them at 240s miniguns just full of hate.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

You ever. You ever sling load them on a. On a 47 and do the old, you know, caving ladder down to them?

[John]

That's the most scariest operation I ever did.

[Drew]

The scariest thing you ever did outside of gunfights. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I bet. Wow, that's a cool one. Yeah.

[John]

I could not imagine being underneath a chinook in a boat and then being dropped down. That is. That's cool. Like, that's.

[Brent]

That's cool. That one off.

[John]

What other pitch Blacks? Like in the pitch black at night?

[Drew]

Yeah. You know who ain't doing that?

[Brent]

Iran.

[Drew]

Iran. I really ain't doing that. We do it for fun. They can't do it if their life depended on it.

[Tyler]

Tyler, it's you it, man. Super stoked to see you and the boys killing it on the podcast. Arena. Great pod, y' all. I think he's saying, my wife and I and we enjoy it.

[Brent]

Yeah. Thomas Hewitt, we deployed together.

[Drew]

Oh, really?

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just hit me up randomly.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

After like 15 years the other day. I'm a huge fan of the podcast.

[Drew]

Love that.

[John]

Nice.

[Brent]

Modesto, California. I wonder if he still lives there.

[Drew]

Look at it. Anti air. Just bringing people back together. We do so. We do so much. We're so much more.

[John]

You guys got such a big, like, wide audience, man, like, all over.

[Tyler]

Oh, man. Well, I can't go back any further.

[Drew]

And I don't. I don't think we're, you know, anything jumped on me that we're not. But it's. But we are, like, big in a niche, if that makes any sense. I was at. I was in Fort Lauderdale with. With Devin, and the elbow room after the Stanley cup was just. Was like, so like standing room only. They weren't letting people in anymore. So I go in there. We're looking. We're looking to tell us no. So we walk away to go somewhere else, and this cop comes up and goes, hey, man, love the podcast. You want to. You want to get in there? I was like, God, please. Oh, walks me right in the side door. He goes, you're good.

[John]

Nice.

[Drew]

I was like, oh, man, perks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

But my work paid off.

[Drew]

That's so. But it's so humbling, you know? I'm like, man, thank you. You. Like, no, stop. And it wasn't like, oh, I deserve that. Like, thank you. Like, that was really, really awesome for you to do that.

[John]

I had. When I came on in February, I had guys that reached out to me about the skill bridge because I talked about it. Yeah. The company. There was a. There was a. Like, a guy, a Marine Corps at, I think 29 palms out in California, one at Matt Dill somewhere. I think it was Oklahoma or something. So, like, there's. You guys got. A lot of people are watching it across the nation.

[Brent]

If for some reason Super Chats are going haywire right now. I think we're getting backed up and the lower ones are getting deleted. If you're Super Chat, they time out, don't they? Yeah. If it didn't get read just $99 something and say mine got deleted in big caps, and we'll read it. Okay.

[Tyler]

Thanks for always bringing TK to light. F. That guy. Just a retired copper in Idaho. Thanks, guys.

[Drew]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Brent]

You're not. That's just a retired cop, man. You did a whole career.

[Drew]

Absolutely.

[Tyler]

Ken says blink. Do you know any Backwater or whatever they're called now? How do they compare to other foreign PMCs like Wagner?

[Drew]

Yeah, there's Blackwater's huge. Oh, gosh, I can't keep. Well, yeah, the Stella screw. Bottom out. But I don't think they're. Yeah, the last I heard was academy, but I don't even know if that's. Is that. Anyway, I wag. That's. That's really hard to say. They're almost two different types because of what they do and what they're hired to do. Like, Wagner will get hired to do offensive operations because they work on a different. A different playbook. The United States does not hire contractors to do offensive operations. They only do them to do security and defensive operations. So it's very different.

[Brent]

The first one came in and said, mine got deleted, but you didn't put what you put. So I need another $99 today. I know Nate from Valhalla was in here and I, I saw it for a second and it went away.

[Tyler]

Nate Spence says, I'm sorry, go ahead.

[Drew]

Yeah, Nate's probably trying to get me back. I got on his live.

[Brent]

He said, brent Tyler had butt buddies.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that was funny.

[Drew]

And he was trying to do a serious live. And I said, nick, what's the largest animal you think you can kill with your hands? And all the super chats just started going on ridiculous things. He's like, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to talk about Iran.

[Tyler]

Firstborn baby giraffe. We've already covered that. Do you guys believe that the nuclear sites got destroyed or not? Love the show.

[Drew]

That's a great question. And I know there's a lot of like conflicting information about that. This, this is what I'm adamant about. We live in this Amazon prime society where like we want everything same day, next day, 48 hours at best. It took Israel three years to plan that operation and figure all that out once they started dropping bombs over there. Let me tell you, Iran went silent and they quit talking. Whatever comms, unless it was the most secured comms, they feel like they knew. And there's a lot of things we can do, but I assure you they jumped comms. And if you think we're going to find out anytime soon what happened to 300ft under a nuke site, we will, but it's, it's going to take time. Like we have no idea whether, how, how, how effective it was. So you're just going to have to settle down and, and wait for that information.

[Brent]

All right? Hey, just so you guys know, I'm not trying to say give us more money, but I'm saying the more you donate, the longer it stays. There's a timer on it and the, the five dollar ones are, they're deleting themselves and I'm watching him in real time go away.

[Drew]

But it is a win, win situation.

[Brent]

And unfortunately we have to take a commercial break. So again, if your comment got deleted, $99 it and say mine got deleted and then put in what you wanted us to read. So going to our sponsors. Flatline Fiber Company. Since they're founding in 2019, Flatline Fiber Company has strived to create the highest quality gear with real world funct. Trusted by SWAT teams, high level military units, police agencies and civilian shooters across the globe. They make gear you can trust made in America with a lifetime warranty. And they've got everything you need. Rifle, slings, Ifaks, dump pouches and baseline bags. So go to flatlinefiberco.com use promo code ANTI HERO15 and get 15% off.

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[John]

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[Brent]

Facetime me.

[Drew]

Somebody send Devin a picture. Oh.

[Tyler]

And we're back.

[Brent]

We're back.

[Drew]

We're so back.

[Brent]

All right, let's start knocking out these supers.

[Tyler]

Have some beers with me boys. Finally got to watch a live because I have tomorrow off.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Tyler]

Good feeling. Thank you brother. Bend over. 50 bucks for an outro song. Proud Texan Air Force vet dope die MF Outro song yeah the Thursday nights.

[Brent]

You'Re tied Hate breeding Dope books Danny.

[Tyler]

Tyler I Could have sworn I saw you dancing the party all the time on duty, bro.

[Brent]

Maybe that's possible. I thought I was alone in that parking lot.

[Tyler]

Alex. G. What's up, guys? Always great to catch the podcast live. Brent saw a video of a teammate of yours training with the Forward observations group. He had the same Spartan patch as you and on his sleeves. Tier 1 Delta. Best teachers.

[Drew]

Oh, man. If you can let me know. Did he say his name? Let me know who it was.

[Brent]

You gotta pay again.

[Drew]

Just a dollar 1.99 is nothing.

[Brent]

Just go away.

[Drew]

So it's less than a monster.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

G. Reeves says. What's your favorite type of air support?

[Drew]

Accurate ones.

[Tyler]

Fast ones.

[Drew]

Ones that get there really fast and accurate. I don't care how fast you get there if you're not accurate. I need fast. I need accurate.

[Tyler]

Don't care what it is.

[John]

Probably want a gunship. Gunship is going to be.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Warthog.

[Drew]

No, I'd go with that AC130.

[John]

AC130. Yeah. I mean a 10 warthog is absolutely amazing. But I mean, you get a gunship that can stay overhead for two and.

[Drew]

A half hours, right? The loiter time on that and you.

[John]

Get two of them and they're just circle. I mean.

[Drew]

Yeah, I definitely had gunships save my ass.

[Brent]

Yeah, Drew, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna read them from the bottom up while you read them from top down.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

Josh Hendrix. Mine got deleted. Bart, what generation? Glock 19.

[Drew]

You like all of them? There's not that big of a difference, honestly. Like between. Between the generations.

[Brent]

Levi, Cole, Barry and Terry, check out my boys. New small time business. First formation search. Let's go smack steel sometime. Yeah, if you're in Florida, man, hit us up. First formation research. And then Jose. Jose missed my chat. Sergeant Major Timmer. For 50 bucks. You know who Sergeant Major Timmer is?

[Drew]

Don't know. Timmy.

[Brent]

Joseph. Mine got deleted from Magnum handout. But it's all good order place. Thank you, boys. Much appreciated. I can.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Brent]

I can email confirm if you need. Did a 50 chat. Didn't get read. Barry and Terry, check out my boys. Oh, new small time business. First formation search. I'll say it again because you paid three times.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Brent]

I am Todd.

[John]

Did.

[Brent]

I am. We todded.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

That'S an old one all right.

[Brent]

You should be good, Drew to go from top down.

[Tyler]

Ball hog heading to Osut in July on an 18. Nice contract. Any wise words for me? Gotta leave now, so I'll have to watch your response later. Much love.

[Drew]

It's super easy. Train hard, don't quit and if you train hard the least likely you are to quit.

[John]

Don't suck.

[Tyler]

Jackson Sewell says what's up turd burglars? What's the best range to zero a pistol? Red dot. I'm nasty with a long gun but finally getting me into pistol training because.

[Drew]

They'Re shorter and it doesn't you don't have to deal with like excessive drops at 100 meter 200, 300. I honestly I don't care. I don't care if you do a 10, a 15, a 20, a 7. I've done them at all the same ranges and you'll get essentially all the same results.

[Tyler]

I recommend no Kings protest Cool Hand Dance says TK is the modern day Simple Jack.

[Drew]

Any who oh there's got to be a a satire video of that.

[Tyler]

That's what AI videos are made for.

[Drew]

You it's got the AI program yeah.

[Brent]

Any who yeah put his face on Simple Yes.

[Tyler]

Anywho I've been on HP TRT since February yeah all time high at the gym and cranking the hog. Nice.

[Drew]

It is a benefit so not act like it's not.

[Tyler]

Another commenter says Breaststroke Tucker how would the best special forces unit in the world Delta Force be utilized in a near peer war like Ukraine versus Russia?

[Drew]

That's a good question because at the end of the day that that is not our forte like that's that's all all glory goes to the 11 bravos on things like that because they are going to be the stars of that war and they have been the but at the end of the day doing things like behind enemy line strikes and cutting off logistical supplies which doesn't sound very sexy until tanks and armored personnel carriers can't go anywhere because they don't have fuel to to get them would be major blows to to the movement to enemy movement so it'd be a lot of things like that.

[Tyler]

See this goes back to trying to figure out whether we need Delta Force or the the Seal Team 6 to be the only Tier 1A volleyball game in Daisy Dukes and with lots of baby good ideas man keep them coming. Bobby Andrews for 10 bucks says what's up nerds? Keep up the good work. Love the squad cast Bobby Joe Saunders 5 bucks Delta Dev grew the SF Tier 1 version of the Army Navy football game. Just saying.

[Drew]

Oh for sure amazing probably crappy football game. We we used to do a like a flag a flag football competition every every Thanksgiving so like one unit would be the one Squadron be deployed. So three squadrons would fight for this flag football game. And for about the first quarter of it it was flag. And after that it was just an all out of each squadron.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew]

It would have turned to an all out brawl of tackle football notepads. And people get hurt every year. And every year they'd send the same email, stop doing this. Stop. Like we can't have people not on the alert roster because you played. Because you guys can't play flag football.

[Brent]

Million dollar investments.

[Drew]

And I loved it. Some of my best memories are playing that flag football that. The Turkey bowl we called it. It was awesome. Awesome.

[Tyler]

Evan J234 says combat arms instructor at a local base. Vets and military are tracking the information y' all put out regarding TK Luttrell. Etc. Keep up the amazing work. Also found out wife is pregnant. Let's go.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Tyler]

All right. Congratulations.

[Drew]

Got a swimmer in there.

[Tyler]

Barry McCockener. We've heard of them before. Dorothy and Toto. Pick one funniest prank in the teams or funniest mishap during training.

[Drew]

Oh man, so many pranks on the teams. My personal favorite was this. It was New Year's was coming up, so we had a lot of fireworks. So I was putting those, those poppers on, on like a tripwire. So when people would go into their rooms, they'd open the door and the popper would go off by their face. I intentionally did one popper a little bit with the. The door string to it a little loose so he would see the string and I heard him go, haha. Brent not gonna get me. And I put a secondary popper out. So when he fully opened the door after he cut the first one, and then right off he said, brent didn't get me. And then pop. And he goes, ah. That was one of my greatest prank moments ever.

[Tyler]

Josh Hendrick says, have you guys seen the footage of the Oklahoma cop shooting his rifle at a car while driving and taking fire?

[Brent]

Yeah, it's pretty dope.

[Tyler]

That'd be a good.

[John]

I just saw that today. Yeah, that was wild.

[Drew]

I love our algorithms sync up.

[John]

He was like steering with his knee.

[Brent]

Yeah, right.

[John]

Shooting.

[Drew]

I didn't see that one yet. Well, my phone.

[Brent]

But then a video is. And you're like, how does it end? He pits it and then the video ends.

[John]

Yeah, that was wild.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Tyler]

If Marsat gets shut down, should those marines go to the SEAL teams?

[Drew]

We were told that is a nasty rumor that MARSOC is not getting shut down. So I, I hope they don't.

[Brent]

Give the SEAL team.

[Drew]

Do they go to the. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Like, why wouldn't you. Why wouldn't you give a bigger pool to go over there and draw draw.

[Brent]

From there's equally qualified. Or would they have to go to.

[Drew]

A. Yeah, I mean give them the opportunity to, to go to buds. I mean you'd have to go through the, you know, through, through the pro or they, or they wouldn't respect you. Yeah. You know, so you have to do that. But yeah, I would like to see Marines have the, the opportunity to go to. To buds.

[Tyler]

All right. There's a lot of letters in here. One Zulo, 10 bucks has question for the CCT. While your time at the STS, were you able to meet a one C Kagan, Baker and Sergeant Cole in Condif? What's your opinion on combat control having an identity crisis right now?

[Drew]

That's a good question.

[John]

Yeah. So Baker. I did, I did not know him. Condif was actually on my team. We were Red team together at the 2:3. And for you guys that don't know, he, he died in a parachuting accident in 2018. Freefall. They never, never found his body in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, he got, he got sucked out. Gulf America. That's right. He got sucked out. And then there was a lot of I do nonsense about, about that in the response time, but unfortunately never recovered him. But he was a, he was a real close buddy of mine. We were, we were team together. He was from Texas. Like me, he was a power lifter. We'd always see each other in gym workout talk. Right when I came back from my deployment, he had just showed up to team and we just hit it off really good. Like very well liked. Just a solid, solid performer. And then he actually drove me around a lot. When I had elbow surgery, he'd drive me to my appointments because I was all drugged up. So I got to know him really good. But yeah, the opinion on combat control community, man, it's real. It's all because of a weak, weak poor leadership in the, in the ST community. And I tell a lot of guys and there's actually a buddy of mine now at second what's the Fort Lewis? Was that second Ranger Bat?

[Drew]

Yes.

[John]

Yeah, I. He came to me on social media, wanted to be a controller, and I changed his whole path. So, you know, go Ranger first. Because unfortunately ST leadership is more focused on putting females in combat control. And, and they're just so focused. What they're trying to do is become like their own ODA and they don't want to play. They don't want to do what we've done historically, which is get attached to ODA teams, get attached to SEAL teams and just do jtac. Like that's what we're good at. And they want to become like their own. Like, we don't want to support other people. We want the mission ourself. And it's like, no, dude, like we're. If that's what it is, go be a Green Beret.

[Drew]

Right?

[John]

And we just have a bunch of like weak, weird, weird leadership in st. And I hope they hear this and they hate me and I hate them. And there's some. And the problem is all the good leaders in st, they're like, I'm done with this, I'm gonna get out. Because they don't want to climb up to what it takes to be an 06 to make the change. And you got these weird guys that have been in for 30 plus years and they're like, well, how am I going to make one star? How am I going to do this? Oh, I'll put a female in. Like, I mean, if you just look into the whole thing about the female that made it. We have one female who is now a major. And she quit. She quit the pipeline multiple times. Then she became the AFSOC General Aid. They had her rewrite the standards for cct, the PT test and then she failed her own PT test that she wrote.

[Drew]

I'm not kidding, you can't make it up.

[John]

And now she's becoming, she's now a major who's now the direct, the DO at the new, at the new ST unit. It's just like, it's mind blowing how stupid leadership is in st. It's your favorite John Howard here leadership.

[Drew]

I'm glad you said that because, because that's the truth. That, that is the, you know, the non like partisan truth. We, we can't, we can't all be quarterbacks. You know, we, we need other players on the team. We already have Green Berets. But you know what? Green Berets need the people who are the absolute best in the world. And calling in bombs, that's what that's what they need.

[John]

And that's what our reputation is like. We have the last 20 plus years, we have like earned her a place at the table for sure with being a JTAG. SEALs want us, Marsa, everybody wants to play with us. And then they're like, no, you know what? We could be our own oda. And it's just like, get out of here.

[Drew]

Such a horrible idea.

[John]

I'm glad they got rid of this. But this was, I want to say, five, six years ago. They were actually going to get rid of the combat control beret. Yeah. So they were going to take Air Force eod, tap, P, CCT and, and pj and they were going to give them one beret and then like it was gonna be like their own like little ODA thing. It was the stupidest thing. I'm telling like some of the leadership, like they're actual special.

[Brent]

Good idea.

[Drew]

Good idea fairies for sure.

[John]

And what it is is you have these Air Force officers in st. Who never did anything like while in combat situations and they're trying to like re identify or re. Like reinvent themselves and they're like, oh, this is how I'm gonna make my mark in history. And they're not. They're just, you know, a bunch of pre 911 guys and they, they suck. When I said. And I don't mean on all of them. There's some great ones like, great ones like Jimmy. I hope Jimmy's watching right now.

[Tyler]

He's.

[John]

He's working with me now and he was, he got out as a major prior enlisted actually he was up at the, at the team at the tier one level. Actually went through OTC and all that. But it's just like, he'll tell you, man. Like it's, it's just you have these old timers in there. It just won't get out of the way. And they just want to reinvent the wheel instead of just saying, no, we're good at jtac. We're good at lzs. We're good at this stuff. Keep it that way.

[Drew]

There's a new command climate and it doesn't want females first. It wants the best first. So quit cowtailing to the last administration and fall in line to what the American people voted for.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[John]

They've lowered the standard so bad in, in the Air Force side. I mean it's still, it's still hard, don't get me wrong. But like they've lowered it to where there's a lot of guys that should not be there at all.

[Drew]

Real quick, there's a super chat that, that 51, that, that, that disappeared.

[John]

Oh, oh, get that man back 101.

[Brent]

That was disappeared.

[Drew]

Nate from Valhalla says I donated you $50. You're going to read this out loud. Trenton, Skyler are the first twins produced by two gay dads through butt baby conception.

[Brent]

That was worth 50 bucks.

[Drew]

The old butt Baby Conception.

[Brent]

Salvador Bolanos donated a hundred dollars and it got a race.

[John]

Oh.

[Drew]

Oh, no.

[Brent]

He said. Closing saw Bad Company by Bad Company in memory of the recent. Recent death of the guitarist Mick Ralph. Get retired Marine slash unit member Todd Apolski on the live.

[Drew]

Oh, I've heard of Todd Apolsky, owner. All right, It's a new one.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

Jackson Sewell says, do you boys want some oil field companies hats? I get a thousands of them out here. P.S. still got them steaks and cigars waiting in El Paso.

[Drew]

Hell yeah. What's. What's more manly than an oil field worker?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I mean, man, those videos of those boys out there, the oil fields working, you know, there's massive.

[Brent]

They saved the world in Armageddon.

[John]

They don't pay taxes now. It's true.

[Tyler]

All right, Craig says. Craig says. Hope you all can get Pat Mack on as a guest one day.

[Drew]

PMAC doesn't like leaving Southern Pines, so if he doesn't have to travel, he'll do almost anything. Who doesn't have to travel? So that's. That's the problem.

[Tyler]

I like that guy. We get along. Jennison11 says, Funniest pranks you pulled on your teammates and funniest ones that were pulled on you.

[Drew]

Well, I just said the one that I pulled on someone else. Funniest one that was pulled on me. This. This is a true story. So we were. I was on a dive team, so all of us were trying to get overseas, all trying to get jacked in six packs. And they knew I had a sweet tooth. And so every now and again, like, I would lay my head on a pillow, there'd be some Oreos. I could hear a crunch, and there'd be, like, Oreos underneath my pillow. So they're always kind of messing with me, trying to get me to eat sweet things because they were like crabs in a bucket. It's always trying to hold me down. We were in a. An actual firefight. And I went. Thankfully, it wasn't that long in Iraq, but I went to reload. And the first magazine pouch I went for had a Twinkie in it. They had replaced one of my magazines with. I was a little bit mad at first. Like, it's got. It's gone too far, boys. Like, what if I needed that? They're like, but. But you didn't. So it hasn't gone too far. But it's funny. It's funnier in hindsight than it was at the time.

[John]

Did you eat it?

[Drew]

No, I didn't. I'm more of a. I'm a sucker for chocolate. Twinkies do nothing for me.

[Brent]

Yeah, vanilla and vanilla.

[Drew]

Chocolate and peanut butter for sure. Peanut butter. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Now I know what to get you for your birthday.

[John]

I better be five pounds bigger than this episode.

[Brent]

Good.

[John]

I like them.

[Tyler]

Max Chang says, greetings from Cali. So one of our trainees got. Trainees care about you say that one, I guess. One of our trainees got shot yesterday in foot pursuit of a shooting suspect. But he's gonna be okay. Good. Praise the Lord. We found the suspect hours later. Unfortunately, he surrendered. Oh, well. Love you guys. No homo like that guy.

[John]

It's pride month.

[Drew]

Come on. So he got shot in the foot and a foot pursuit.

[Tyler]

No, he just got shot.

[Brent]

He just got shot.

[Tyler]

Didn't say where.

[Drew]

Okay, I was about to say. And oh, and oh, he just got shot. All right. I was gonna say, if you got shot in the foot in a foot pursuit, it was a good thing he wasn't in a face pursuit. But that didn't work out, so I had to redo my whole joke just. Just to set it back up.

[Tyler]

Jose gives 20 bucks. Thank you, Jose. Salvador, bag. A hundred dollars. Thank you, Salvador Tyler. Thanks for the be confrontational anti hero swag.

[Brent]

Yeah, buddy.

[Tyler]

Retired marine Mustang unit member Todd Apolaski would be a great guest. He's hiking the Continental divide trail closing song for 100 bucks. Bad company.

[Drew]

Oh, here we go.

[Tyler]

By Bad company in memory of the recent death of guitarist.

[Brent]

Yeah, he thought it got deleted, so we're good. Okay, okay, I got it.

[Tyler]

He paid 100 bucks. We could read it again. All right. Thank you, Salvador. Every week. You're good, dude. Connor Kinsella says sup, ladies? Wondering if when you guys are gonna come to Boston. 11B Vet Local law enforcement and turned a lot of the boys at work onto you fellers. Keep up the work.

[Brent]

We were gonna go to Boston. Apparently Boston is very, very, very, very hard. We're working at the next quarter late fall to get a The live show. Miami's gonna be the next one though.

[Drew]

Miami.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So probably get Pitbull in the live. Probably.

[Brent]

Probably.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Shaq.

[Drew]

Shaq.

[Brent]

But yeah, yeah, we're good. Boston hopefully will be the next one. And that guy. That'll be fun.

[Drew]

Yeah. Be cold.

[John]

I've heard Boston's a cool place.

[Brent]

I've never met.

[John]

I've never been, but I got the moguls.

[Brent]

Never been to Boston.

[John]

I've got a really good buddy that lives up there Titang. And he's always like, come up here and see me. So one day I'll get out there.

[Drew]

School time. Been there a few times.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Todd O. Pasky is the. His Instagram handles the Zen commando. I'm. Yeah, I'll look into him. Yeah.

[John]

I hear Boston's not dirty like New York City.

[Tyler]

So that's what.

[John]

That's what people tell me that are from there. They're like, oh, it's not dirty like New York City looks like Beirut.

[Tyler]

MB says. Brent, did you work with William Levine? Have you guys thought about covering him and his alleged criminal activity since he served in CAG and involves law enforcement? Covers both of your expertise.

[Drew]

Yeah, you know, we've. We've been. You know, people ask me about that, and sometimes they ask it in the wrong way, like, oh, you won't cover Billy Levine because like, like, like we're safeguarding unit people, which is absolutely not true. I bag on. On. Yeah, on the sheriff of all the time. The difference is, uh, the sheriff of bullshit is lying for money and fame, which has always been. Which has always been our threshold. Bill Levine, you know, did. Did, did some dumb stuff and paid the price for it. No one tried to hide. It's why you know about it, because no one. No one. No one tried to hide it. What's. What happened with Billy Bean? Yeah, he was the one who shot his neighbor who was a Green Beret, but it wasn't as. And then. I mean, I can do a whole episode on it, but the. And then he got arrested again, and then he got found dead in a. Out in a. Like a. I want to call it a range. A training area in Fort Bragg. Him and. Him and like a seventh group support guy.

[John]

I remember hearing about that.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

We can talk about the lack of police work, solving that murder.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's still unsolved, correct? Still unsolved.

[Tyler]

Michael Wheeler says. Afternoon, guys. Brent, what percentage of training time do you think tier one team. Teams dedicate to SHIELD work? Tyler, roasting a recruiting video anytime soon. Stay safe, guys, and thanks for the cast.

[Brent]

Every recruiting video is worth roasting.

[Drew]

Each squadron is. Is in charge of. Of their own time and what they think is important. And then, you know, different training you get different. Whatever you're training for, you know, gets. Gets different things allocated to it. So it's. It's really hard question to answer, but I assure you this. What. Whatever it takes to be proficient, and they'll do that, because I assure you, they're proficient at it.

[Tyler]

1 Zulu is back in. Says when Will you guys have a PJ on the show? Former 24sts member Chief Master Sergeant Chad McCoy would be a great guest for the podcast.

[Drew]

Yeah. We haven't got a 2.4cct on, much less a PJ, and I love those guys. So I'm still talking to Fred Baker about getting him on and.

[John]

Fred Baker? Yeah, Controller. Oh, yeah. He was my CCS instructor.

[Drew]

I was. Really?

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah, Fred's a good dude, for sure. We'll. We'll find. We'll find one willing to talk. We'll get him on here.

[John]

I got some two. Four PJ buddies.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

And the team with me, they'd. Come on. There's, like, one of them's been a PJ since 94.

[Drew]

Okay.

[John]

Like, super, super experienced.

[Drew]

Yeah. Love to have those guys.

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right. Jumped on us again. This is where we left off.

[John]

We got. We got a lot of PJs in the. On the state guard team.

[Drew]

Okay. Yeah. Love PJs.

[John]

Always feel safe when I got one.

[Drew]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[John]

You just know if anything happens, they're gonna. They're gonna pat you up.

[Tyler]

Jose. 20 bucks says Brent ever worked with Sergeant MJR. Sergeant Timmer.

[Drew]

Yeah. No, I don't remember Sergeant Major Timmer. Timmy.

[John]

Timmy.

[Brent]

Oh, my buddy. My buddy Hewitt. I got his first name wrong. I called him Thomas Hewitt, but that's actually the name of Leatherface from Texas Chainsaw Man. How do you even know that Jason Hewitt's my buddy's name? It's been 15 years, bro.

[Drew]

Relax.

[Tyler]

Hey, but his name's Jason. That's just another horror movie. See what your brain did there?

[Brent]

Got your city of origin down there.

[Drew]

That's right.

[Tyler]

All right. Michael Wheeler says Moses heard lied from. From an arrestee. I have a job interview tomorrow. Yeah, I gotta pick up my kids. It's Jason Hewitt, bro.

[Drew]

Hahaha.

[Tyler]

Close. Flim nasty 11, my friend Lou Sasol loves y' all.

[Drew]

Thank you, Lou.

[Tyler]

Loose. There it is. There it is.

[Drew]

Happy birthday.

[Tyler]

Lou had put that to put that together there. Bicone fiber. 50 bucks. Hey, burnt trucker and Taylor. Speaking of Navy, I don't know why that's funny. Speaking of the Navy, difference between combat engineers and Seabees. Or am I a retard?

[Drew]

No, Seabees, even though it's spelled that way, is actually from the term the. The letters C and B, which is construction battalion. So combat engineers obviously have a building aspect to them, but combat engineers also have a reverse building aspect to them, if that makes any sense. Blowing things up.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And CBs only build things. As far as I know. They've. They've built some things for me. They're great dudes. They love what they do and they're good at it.

[Tyler]

So G. Reeves thinks that his super chat got deleted. He did it twice. $99. And he says Brent was your favorite air support.

[Drew]

But I do believe we cover that we did AC130.

[Tyler]

Fast and accurate. Ethan Cleland. 50 bucks. First time donator.

[Drew]

Thank you.

[Tyler]

Long time listener. Question for Brent. Throughout your military training, which physical exercise do you feel you were best at? Running pull ups, push ups, etc. Thanks for all y' all do and the entertainment you provide.

[Brent]

I just realized I didn't know that's how you spelled etc, etc, etc.

[Drew]

You always see an Etc. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

You spell that so.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah. Is that actually how you spell it up?

[Drew]

I'd probably say pull ups. I could do over 30 pull ups at one point and my shoulder paid the price for that. My right shoulder has never been the same. At some point, I've probably over overdid the pull ups.

[Tyler]

It's a lot of pull ups, Joe. Mama says I am We. Todd did Levi Cole did a 50 Cent chat. Didn't get Red Barry and Terry Dollar. Did you already read this stuff?

[Brent]

Stuff. Yep. Got that one.

[Tyler]

Okay, you already got that one. Magnum handout.

[Brent]

Got that one.

[Tyler]

Jose.

[John]

Good thing they paid again.

[Brent]

Got that one.

[Tyler]

Levi Cole.

[Brent]

Got that one.

[Tyler]

Josh.

[Brent]

That one.

[Drew]

Yep.

[Brent]

Yep. Now we're at nobody.

[Tyler]

Nobody. Did you ever work with SWCC in the unit? If you can speak on it, I would like to hear if the unit has maritime teams capability or if it ever works with. With SWCC or boats.

[Drew]

It's funny you say that. We just talked about it before the episode with Jordan. That was. That was before my time at the unit. But the unit absolutely worked with swick boats in. In Iraq. There were riverine ops, uh, using those guys. Uh, one of them's in studio right now. Uh, so yeah, they absolutely did.

[Tyler]

Todd's miss. What's up, Duck holes. I just joined in to keep up the good work. Thank you, Todd. Craig, My super heats may have got deleted. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Eagle Heart, two bucks. Get some GS. Jacob Schneider, 20 bucks. Brit, what's the most ridiculous reason you saw someone get kicked out of the unit?

[Brent]

That's a good question.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah, I'll answer that question. We had a really good dude. I. I get it. You can argue it both ways. But the. The DUIs is. Is you're getting kicked out over DUI guy. We had a guy go drinking, do all the right things. Spent the night at a buddy's house, woke up in the morning to take his family to church. Rolled through a stop sign, got, got pulled over, and he still blew hot like a.008. Is that that any post? Like a 0.081.082. And it explained the officers, like, hey, I, I, I did the right thing. Like, I, I drank a lot last night, you know, and then we went back and they, they probably drank and, and told stories till three or four in the morning. So he's only on three or four hours, maybe five hours of sleep. He was still over the legal limit, but did all the right things. Still gets pulled over, gets a dui, gets kicked out of the unit. Breaks my heart.

[Brent]

Shame on that cop. I can say it. I can for sure.

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I think Vanessa said Fred Baker's in talks.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yep.

[John]

Fred's awesome.

[Tyler]

Kyle, Sam, you negroes should get Nick Lavery on the show. Green Beret amputee, returned active. Incredible story.

[Drew]

We've heard his name before for sure.

[John]

That's the big guy, right?

[Brent]

Yeah. We haven't got, we haven't been able to get a hold of him.

[Drew]

That's a guy I want to get a hold of. And I, I've asked some people in my, in, in some chat groups. I'm in. And the. Was it the basis for Nirvana to turn Green Beret?

[Brent]

Jason Everman?

[Drew]

Yeah. That I would love to have on the show.

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Flim Nasty for five bucks says mine got deleted. What I said was, my friend Loose and Gay are huge fans of y' all. Mr. Lobotomy. Brent, what was the best prank you saw in Delta? And Tyler, best prank you saw among cops?

[Drew]

Hops.

[Brent]

Oh, man. Hot potato Taser, where you turn that on and it rides for five seconds and you throw it in somebody's lap. And that, that was when I got hired. That was like something that was able to be done. Now you don't do it or, or the little bite. Your buddy with the Taser.

[Drew]

We had a aircraft take down. Fun fact. The. When you go down the center aisle of an airplane, the, the left seat belt on the right side will connect to the right seat belt of the right side and they will buckle across and create like a, A barrier, a seat belt barrier. Does that make sense? So they're buckled in, but they're low and they're at your knees. So you come on a training thing, you come, you know, running onto this aircraft Looking for targets you're not looking at. Seat belts buckled across the aisle and tripped us. It tripped us hard.

[Brent]

Everyone.

[Drew]

Everyone. It was in training. At some point we got back there, we kind of all left. They all laughed. We all laughed. I was like, oh, yeah. Like, we didn't have a chance of seeing it. But then I kind of looked back. I was like, me could really mess someone that's like, towards the end of training, like, you could have really mess someone up with that. With that trick. But, yeah, it was. It was funny.

[Tyler]

Tyler, what time do you want to give away the Patreon?

[Brent]

No Patreon this week.

[Tyler]

No Patreon this week.

[Brent]

Had a long week. I'm not legally allowed to talk about it.

[Drew]

Yet. Yeah, okay. Oh, yes.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna use that. Hey, where you been? I'm not legally allowed tell you about. Why are you late? I'm not legally left.

[Drew]

All right.

[Tyler]

I don't know if mine got deleted. What were the funniest pranks? Yeah, we talked about that.

[Drew]

That.

[Tyler]

All right. Smash 1775. Brenda and Tanisha, which would you rather for a battle animal? I like this. To ride into war. A fully armored bull moose or grizzly?

[Brent]

Grizzly battle cat.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah. Bull mooses are big, don't get me wrong. But yeah. I mean, what's. What's. What's more intimidating than a grizzly?

[John]

Terrible.

[Tyler]

Always look cool.

[Drew]

Always look cool. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Mr. Polite, back in again. Would love to see an episode of Erik Prince with you guys discussing current events minutes.

[Brent]

Yeah, that would be a cool yeah.

[Tyler]

Brent, did you get a chance to read John Ripley's Navy Cross citation? It reads like TK Story, but it's true.

[Drew]

Really?

[Tyler]

John Ripley's Navy Cross.

[Drew]

All right.

[John]

Did he have 50 grenades?

[Drew]

John Ripley.

[Tyler]

Jackson Sewell says I'll be in Destin, Florida in July. You queers want a deep sea fish?

[John]

My backyard sounds fun.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I've never gone. I live in Florida.

[Drew]

You close to 38.

[John]

That's where I live.

[Drew]

You live in 38?

[John]

I live on. On the bay side of 38. So, like, the first turn for 30A, you just go north on the bay. That's where I'm at.

[Drew]

I love it.

[John]

Santa Rosa Beach.

[Drew]

Let's. So let's. Let's. Let's get a 38 trip.

[Brent]

How far away is Destin?

[John]

Justin's like. I mean, it's. It basically goes Destin, Santa Rosa Beach. I mean, five minutes here in Destin. Ten minutes. Okay. It's faster by boat. I mean, I go from my house in Santa Rosa.

[Brent]

That's a guru right there. It's faster by the.

[Tyler]

Is way faster as the crow flat. All right, Todd Smith, what's on the lead for the closing song? I'll cash out some crypto for the one I want you to hear. Todd Smith MB comment was deleted. No, when we got that one. William Levine. We talked about that. Cayman cider. Yeah, you. Yeah, you did. Drew Ski. You have to read the names.

[John]

These are great.

[Tyler]

Well, I missed some. We're trying to get through these so we don't lose them. Sorry, bro. But I got that one for you, buddy. Jose says, can you shout out to my brother Siam Solinger, please?

[Drew]

Getting us.

[Tyler]

No, I mean.

[John]

Everything'S a trap.

[Tyler]

I mean C E E E M M that. I mean, that's not even a name. Joseph.

[John]

Maybe we're just not pronouncing it right. I don't know.

[Drew]

All right, I hate it that if someone else like my biggest fear is everyone else is getting it but us.

[Tyler]

All right, well, it looks serious, but his name has been said. Salvador back in paid a hundred dollar super chat deleted closing song. We got that Bad company. We got that Papa Shaw. I used to put poppers under toilets.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Tyler]

Thank you, Jackson Sewell. I get that we don't want to. We don't want war. But isn't that what keeps us the most lethal fighting force?

[Brent]

I've always talked about that having little proxy wars or little conflicts here and there keeps the spear sharp.

[Drew]

You gotta have it.

[Brent]

Yeah. You can't have the advancements in training and the advancements of technology without conflict.

[Drew]

The boys have to have real world experience.

[Brent]

Because when. When the real one pops off. You don't want to be 100 years cold.

[Drew]

Cold for sure.

[Tyler]

Being in pointless war seems to keep us the most relevant.

[Brent]

And with this shirt. I support the military.

[John]

I support the military industrial complex.

[Drew]

And here's the thing. They don't have to be like pointless wars. There's plenty of good causes that. That. That we can get experience from.

[John]

Oh yeah.

[Brent]

Africa.

[Tyler]

Rudy says seen a cop pull someone over as he was ordering from the donut drive through. Maybe he took the last of his favorite donut. Have you all read the story about Mr. Don Key Dick.

[Brent]

Donkey dick.

[Drew]

It's hard to get new ones.

[Tyler]

You drop the old donkey dude. Duder. Troy, I recall you saying something about Dakota Meyer on a live a while back back. Are you not a fan of that dude? No judgments here, taftb oh, got me on that one.

[John]

TFTB I don't know what that is.

[Drew]

You better write back and tell us what taftb means.

[Brent]

That was a while ago. Dakota Meyer is an associate of Tim Kennedy. All of their businesses are together. That's why Dakota Meyer, he went on the defensive for Tim Kennedy when we officially called him out. And, and we were like, anybody who, who defends Tim Kennedy, you can literally go and look. And they have some kind of financial tie to Tim Kennedy being successful. So, yeah, I called Dakota Meyer out.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And then obviously. So everybody knows that there's might be a little bit different of a story of his Medal of Honor. I don't know much about it, but.

[John]

Didn'T he catch some flack about telling people to use tampons to plug bullet holes?

[Drew]

Yeah, they're so, so much better things.

[Brent]

Why would you, why would you have a tampon on you?

[John]

I think he was like teaching a class or something. He was like, telling people to carry tampons.

[Drew]

The biggest thing about that, to like, to plug is that, is that I have no patience for. Is blind allegiance. I have no patience for blind allegiance. I'll tear it now. I love Trump. Trump does some stupid stuff, and when he does some stupid stuff, I'll tell you about it. I have no room for blind allegiance. Yep. And when we got time, I'll tell you something that, that I don't agree with what Trump. All right, let's do it right now. Apparently, as the news has it, and it does seem to be a, a true story, that Iran called us and said, hey, we got to do something. We're gonna, we're gonna send missiles to this base at this time. And, and Trump said, okay, and basically allowed it. Now, to devil's advocate, it, as horrible as that sounds, like they basically tipped us off. We got, we got everyone out of there, and then we intercepted every missile except one. And the one missile we didn't, we didn't intercept. We knew where it was going to land, so it wasn't worth our, our ammo because it was going towards nothing. But here's the problem I have. I know that he, like the devil's advocate is this. You allow them to do it so Iran can get there when to say, hey, I, we have to tell our people that we struck back, Israel struck back, Iran struck back. We can go back to making a peace deal. I, I get the, the gamesmanship of it, but I'm, I'm a truist. I just am. Iran calls me and says, hey, this is what we're gonna do. And Then I tell him, go fuck yourself. Yeah. No, you cannot shoot. I cannot allow you to shoot at our military bases. And if you do that, you're gonna get more of what you just got. We've already proven you can't stop it. No, I'm not giving you a green light to shoot at our bases. So I don't agree with that one. Again, I can see the argument to it, but I don't agree with it. And I'll. And, and I'll say it here. What do you think about that?

[Brent]

I agree. I mean, the whole point was, was the whole point of hitting Iran was because we're telling them you cannot operate the way you operate anymore.

[Drew]

That's right.

[Brent]

And then where you go, okay, go ahead and operate real quick like the way you were.

[Drew]

John, what do you think about that?

[John]

I. I mean, I agree with that. If you're going to try to show strength, I mean, why not show the full strength?

[Drew]

Show the full strength. Yeah, that's right.

[John]

I'm assuming they did that because Iran blocks their Internet on their people and they're showing their story like, oh, yeah, we struck back at the Americans. Like, we're strong. I'm assuming. Assuming that's why they did that. But, I mean, I think it's kind of. I mean, I get it.

[Drew]

Yeah, I do. I get it. But I don't agree with it. At the end of the day, as a president, you cannot. Okay. You cannot. Okay.

[John]

And I'm surprised Qatar even allowed that themselves. I mean, I don't know if they have. I'm assuming they have the ability to shoot down missiles.

[Drew]

So I read that on a New York Times article. So that's. That's where I got the information from. But no, I'm. I'm not. Not okay with that. How do you know that was true, though? Because the New York Times said it.

[John]

New York's an amazing place.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

According to John. Rocker.

[Brent]

Kid with purple hair.

[Tyler]

All right. Jose says, love you guys. No homo. Got turned on to guys. Started from the.

[Brent]

You got turned on to guys?

[Drew]

Oh, no.

[Tyler]

Turned on to guys. That's what it says.

[Drew]

Hey, he donated a hundred dollars.

[John]

You shut up.

[Tyler]

No way, Jose.

[John]

It's June. It's June.

[Tyler]

All right. Got turned on to will input. You guys started from the ground up. Love the progression. Never served. Spent a handful of years executive protection and PPS.

[Brent]

We know you served in the PPS. Oh, no. Thank you, bro.

[Drew]

That's awesome.

[Tyler]

Jennison 11. Been dicking around in life doing nothing. Given myself until the end of the year to get a TACP contract. Pretty excited.

[John]

Good stuff.

[Drew]

Well, if you.

[Tyler]

What's Attack P?

[John]

Air Force tapi. They are. They're like bigger conventional army, but they do get attached to like, the. Like we had them at our units, though. They do. They do the Ranger mission if they get selected for that. And they're really good. JTACs. They do JTAC exclusively.

[Drew]

Tactical air Control Party.

[John]

Yeah, I got a lot of friends that were tapped. Peas Charlie that did the rescues with me up in North Carolina. He was a Ranger. Tact P. The good stuff.

[Drew]

Well, by sitting around doing nothing, I hope you mean sitting around doing nothing in between your trips at the gym.

[Tyler]

Whiskey. What up, boys? I just got my son his bat from how he loves it.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Tyler]

Rick is the man.

[Drew]

Gave it to him. Nice.

[Tyler]

Allison Chain says, I effing love you guys. I will say, I think you're getting Shadow banned. I used to always get notifications. I still get them, but it's not like before.

[Drew]

Cheers again. I wouldn't be surprised. There's two platforms that. That I. I really despise. I would. Well, we'll say. We'll start with that. YouTube and Instagram are the biggest of. Of platforms and I wish Elon Musk could continue to. To. To buy them. And the third one, I'm not. Not on a whole lot. It's not really our audience because it's younger, but tick tocks. This is bad. Like, these are supposed to be platforms for. For free speech, essentially. I mean, that's what it's for, you know, for. For different point of views and different people to put out different content and for them to restrict it the way they do is shameful.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

Hey, speaking of Shadow Band, don't let me forget to talk about Dead Crab. He's a film guy up and doing a documentary in North Carolina. But him getting Shadow banned. A lot of things getting Shadow banned over this company called SLS out of Galveston, Texas. Basically, they were charging like $145,000 a day to do laundry in North Carolina. $27 million in six months. And they were only serving like 40 people a day. This is company SL. I mean, we can get into it now. We can go through the comments, whatever, but I almost forgot about it. Okay, so you have my attention. Okay, so for expensive ass laundry for everyone listening to this, this. This Dead Crab guy sounds like some USA money. Let me pull up his actual Instagram. But he does documentaries and Dead Crab films. That's his Instagram. This guy's getting Death Threats. Right now he's getting shadow banned. So it's about this company SLS out of, out of Texas. And they basically they pre bid contracts for disasters. And they've been doing this for a long time. Covid Katrina. And they're a big company and they're big in the federal lobbying. And it came out that they were charging, I think it was $147,000. Was it a day or. Yeah, a day to provide laundry service in Swanoa, North Carolina. But they're only serving like 40 people a day. And he, he broke it all down. Like, I mean he actually has like their, their contracts and everything. And they made over $27 million in six months. And they provided very little service, but they have a history of doing that. So I actually asked him, I was like, hey man, send me some of these talking points on what's going on. But they're Sullivan Brothers is the name of this company. They're also home builders out in Texas, like Pearland, Texas area. But they have like 11 different companies. They basically, I guess they also own like they actually own the media in Houston, Texas and they own all the politicians and they have all these federal lobbyists. But they've been basically profiteering off disasters and emergencies for a long time. And the way they do this is these no bid contracts because during emergencies they don't have to bid. And they can already have them in place, pre done, tons of political ties. So they did, they made 27 million in laundry in North Carolina and then they did $71 million in temporary shelters in Virginia. Let's see what else they got going on here. So it starts with the disaster declaration. That's how they get these no bids in. And then I'm just trying to go with all these talking points because I asked my hate, give me all these talking points. In 2018, that was the emergency housing for just 52 people. They made $31 million for 52 people. I don't know how long that one. But the laundry I know was only six months in Swanoa, California, COVID 19. They did temporary New York City housing for $52 million and only treated 79. 79 people. $52 million, same thing. They did like 670 beds for Covid and like never used, like no one even used it. It was just like set up. It was done nothing actually in Florida field hospitals they did a largest single contract purchase orders totaling 84 million for two months. And the facilities went unused completely. Was never used. Actually he's texting me right now. 2018, the, oh, that Virginia contract was only for three days. That 52 million. Yeah, he's watching now. His name's a Carl Loftus. I'm glad you're watching this right now because I told him I was almost forgot about this Carl, but I just spoke to this guy the other day on the phone. You can keep texting me. I got my phone right here. They did the border wall construction which mean Carl both agree like, yeah, do that border wall. But it was near $1 billion and they only did one 1.6 miles for a billion dollars and a lot. I would have went up there and done it for like 100 grand at that point. But yeah, so this guy legit right now is getting like, like death threats. His social media is getting turned off. And I even noticed when I was sharing his films, like I would look at how many people are viewing the story. It was Almost cut, probably 80 of who was actually seeing the story. And I, I was sharing his stuff. But he is going, what I want you guys to do is I think it's coming up in July. Carl, text me if I'm wrong on this, but he's going to be doing a, a film thing up in Asheville, trying to raise money to do this entire documentary on what's going on in North Carolina. But I'm gonna, I, I, this is like what, I'm very passionate obviously about what happened in North Carolina. I know a lot of people are, but I want to get his, I want him to make this film, to get it out there to expose these people. But I've already been asking people that I know like in Congress and just people have a lot of connections like, hey, look into this company sls. These are not good people. Like, they're not doing this out of the kindness of their heart. And like when I see people in North Carolina who were only getting 750 a day and a lot of them were even getting denied that and jumping through hoops just to try to even get that 750. Then you got a company like this making $145,000 a day for a laundry facility. Like, I mean it's just complete joke. But yeah, like go look him up on Instagram. He's been, he's got the stuff posted, he's got the videos. He's doing a really good job exposing it. And I believe he, I know he lives in North Carolina. I think he's actually a nice, a native there. But like, I mean he's got the full audit report like right Here like you guys can go in there and check this out. But I mean he is exposing this company. So what I told him, I was like hey, let's get as many eyeballs on this as possible. Because that way if he winds up, you know, suiciding himself, we're like hey, something, something weird here is going on.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

And I mean like, I mean these people are. Yeah. 100, 145, 217 an average a day. And then they were charging on average $220 per load of laundry for hurricane victims in North Carolina. Like yeah. So these people out of Galveston, Texas, which I'm from Texas and not far from Galveston, I originally grew up in Alvin, Texas. But yeah, the. Yeah. So those people man, how much were they charging? 26,000,145, 000 a day on average.

[Drew]

So what was the total price of.

[John]

27, 27 million million dollars. I mean in insane. You know what dead crab films. Go, go follow him.

[Drew]

I see opportunity here. I think we can start a laundry business for 20. For 26 million. Undercut them and if it's lowest price wins, we get the contract. Yeah.

[John]

27.4 million.

[Brent]

There's no bidding. Yeah, there's no bid.

[John]

There's no bid because it's an emergency. So there's no. So they pre put the contract in place with the state like, like, like months before a hurricane that they say oh, if a hurricane hits, this is what we'll provide. Well and then once the emergency happens.

[Drew]

They can't be a no bid if it's before, it'd be a no bid if it's after the disaster. But if it's before the disaster, there has to be.

[John]

So I think, I think what's going to come out, I think the people approving these contracts and the politicians they've been lobbying, they're definitely getting their kickbacks on this stuff. Yeah, you know that's what it is.

[Drew]

There's a bid before him and something tells me just no one else else thinks his laundry is being. As being financially beneficial.

[John]

So they charged $100,000 a week for towels and a hundred and twelve thousand dollars a week for towels and sandals.

[Drew]

ALS Anti Hero Laundry service is going to provide it for a hundred and forty thousand. Is that less?

[Tyler]

And we'll do paper plates, any gim cigars?

[John]

Yeah. And coffee. Like I mean this is. It's insane. Swanoa was a really tore up place and shout out to savage freedom ops. Actually I don't know if you know this guy. He was a green beret he's out there running it. Adam. I think his name's Adam Smith. I'm trying to remember. But he runs. It's called Savage Freedom. And they were working out of Harley up there, doing a lot of good work. And Aaron, former controller, senior controller of mine, he was out there doing HLZs with him and stuff. But they've been out there the entire time and never left.

[Drew]

Well, while we're on the North Carolina topic for probably 1400 listers right now who haven't heard the Tim Kennedy story if they didn't see your episode.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And the 10 to 15,000, they're gonna watch it after this.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Episode 111.

[Drew]

It's episode 111. Remind them of. Of the amazing feats.

[John]

Yeah. TK did out of the amazing things that TK did for us in North Carolina. So. So the guys that are on my team, who former Green Berets, they. They actually knew TK Personally. And we heard he was coming out there to North Carolina, which I was like, hey, great. Like, this guy can bring awareness. And he. I remember the place I was at, he had just flown in there on like a. Like a five million dollar private helicopter, like, retractable gear and everything. And I was like, okay, great. Hey, this guy's gonna bring awareness. He's going to bring. He's got a big following. He'll bring a lot of help.

[Brent]

Help.

[John]

So what actually happened was when he went to the airfield to link up with my guys, my team, okay. He went up to them and somehow he knew about what they called Operation Blue Ridge, which was what Governor DeSantis sent us there to do was to get trapped Floridians out of the mountains of North Carolina, right? So we had a list of individuals that we known, somehow TK Knew about that. I don't know how he did, but he went up to our. Our. One of our Green Berets and was like, hey, let me get that list of people that are trapped in the mountains from Florida. And they were like, well, hey, like, glad you're here. You got a helicopter. This is what we need. We need a helicopter. Let me put some of the guys on helicopter with you. We'll go out there and get them. And he was like, no, like, you're not putting anybody on the helicopter. He's like, well, we have to go get these guys because these are Floridians. This is our mission. Like, from the governor, like, we have to put at least one guy in the helicopter to go with you. And he was just like, no. And basically just like, walked off.

[Drew]

And it was like, it's the Tim Kennedy show or no. Yeah.

[John]

So he went to try to go get other missions from people, and he went out that day flying and never rescued nobody. So he got no social media footage.

[Drew]

So that's what he's there for.

[John]

That's why he was there. So the next day, now he's going up to my team and he's like, hey, guys, what's up, you guys? Well, guess what? We got our helicopters in at that point, so we didn't need his helicopter. So now he was like, hey, let's go do work. Let's, like, we can share it. We can do everything. And then our guys were just like, nah, man. And this is. This is from a Green Beret. Another Green Beret. He was just like, nah. Like, I'm not. Like, you already kind of showed how you want to be. Like, we don't. We don't need you now.

[Drew]

I didn't forget yesterday.

[John]

Yeah. Like, literally. And then they told me he was going around to all these other little groups and was just like, hey, like, let me. Let's do some work. Like, let's get, like, give me these addresses. Give me where people are. And people are just kind of like, nah, man. Like, you had your opportunity yesterday, like, when there was actual desire. Need to do it.

[Drew]

It.

[John]

And if it wasn't all about you taking your video.

[Drew]

Right.

[John]

So I believe right after that is when he left. He didn't even stay around. So he was there for a very short time. And then it was just like, well, I'm done.

[Drew]

And he was also there long. Yes. Yeah, baby. To it. He was there long enough to do that. And a Fox News interview, it literally.

[Brent]

Said, tim Kennedy saves North Carolina as the.

[John]

And that. That's when everything I had heard from, like, previous, like, people in the military, especially the Green Beret community, I was kind of like, man, like, I see it now because at first I was like, you know, I thought he was kind of douchey, like, I'm a Green Beret, Ranger sniper, you know, all this stuff. Okay, yeah, I get it. Maybe he's just this is audience. He's appealing to civilian people like that. But once I saw how he actually was in North Carolina now, I was just kind of like, you're a piece.

[Drew]

I get it. Yeah. You know, like, that's. That's probably another good segue into Tally got the. The video somewhere about. Remember when he said, I never claimed to have a Bronze Star? So even though we Proved and his Instagram and Twitter that he said, I earned a. I earned valor awards in every single deployment I've ever been on. So he said that, and then he came out and defended himself and said, I never said. I said the awards I got were for valor things, but they weren't valor words. So he started. He did a word play on them. Well, something new has come out, and let's. You found that, Drew?

[Tyler]

I don't know. Which one is it?

[Drew]

Oh, right there. It's got his face right there. Yeah. Yeah, let's. Let's see if that's true. Tim.

[Brent]

Sa.

[Drew]

Watching twice. I was even mad. He said that anytime that guy comes on a clip and says, you sure about that? You hold on. Something's coming. So he wasn't ready for that question, was he?

[Brent]

No. And you can I. I've never once heard a clip where I could tell someone's lying. You usually have to look at things like, look at their facial features. I like that. Just. The audio was a lie.

[Tyler]

Just long pause.

[Brent]

Laugh, Weird laugh.

[Drew]

Yeah. You know what? Let me hear it again.

[Tyler]

There's this guy.

[Drew]

Let me hear it again, Drew. Let me focus on. Let me really focus on what he says and let you. I want you guys to hear this when you hear what he says. All right?

[Brent]

He did the Rob o' Neill nervous laugh.

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh. For starters, that's not what you get of. That's not valor.

[Brent]

I was gonna say that's a CIB.

[Drew]

That's a CIB at best. That's called doing your job. No one's ever got a valor award for someone shooting at you and you shooting back. So it's not even a good lie. He was so unprepared for someone to actually ask him a question. And all of his lies have been. I don't even want to say polished, because his lies aren't polished. We picked him apart like easy prey, but he was not prepared for this. And the nervous laugh and the, oh, let me see how quick I can make something up on the fly. Was not his best moment.

[Tyler]

All right, guys, we're gonna have to play it again. There was no sound.

[Drew]

Okay, we can do it. This was muted on both times.

[Tyler]

On both times.

[Drew]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[Tyler]

All right. Sorry, guys.

[Drew]

We got it. Good job. Way to read the comments. Way to be up to.

[Brent]

Never said anything about having a purple heart or a bronze star with a V device. You sure about that?

[John]

Per the source I have here, you. You have a bronze star with a V. Is that correct?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

You Mind telling us about what happened there?

[Drew]

And how'd you get.

[John]

How you got that?

[Drew]

Oh, pretty. Pretty straightforward, I think.

[John]

So there was.

[Drew]

There's a bad guy, and bad guy was.

[John]

Was shooting at us and.

[Drew]

And I shot him.

[Brent]

I've never.

[Drew]

There was a bad guy.

[Brent]

There was a bad guy.

[Drew]

Ah, there's a bad guy. He was shooting at us and I shot him. The most unvalorous story you could ever come up with is what he said, coming from a guy who said, I never said I had a Valor award. Not only did you say it in Twitter and Instagram, him, you said it in an interview and even backed it up with your own fake story about your fake award.

[Brent]

Lies are hard to keep track of.

[Drew]

They're all here.

[John]

I love what you guys said about him. When he first called him out, when he was like, oh, if you look at my old photos from 10 years ago in the UFC, and he was like, I think you said he gave y' all a homework assignment to go prove that's right. That he, you know, does.

[Brent]

We still did.

[Drew]

And Tyler did. Tyler took that challenge and said, I don't even have to go that far back. I'll do this ice bath thing. That again.

[Brent]

He takes off in slow motion and shows his whole back and then his side in question, right?

[Drew]

So, Tim, that's who that's gonna be. That's gonna be hard to defend. Your whole story is hard to defend. So for the love of God, when will you just come out and say, you got me? I. I talk about the truth. I talk about, you know, being responsible and responsibility. I talk about, you know, being a man. And I've. I've. I've misled you guys, and I, in my own life have screwed up. So I'm caught red handed now. So I have nowhere else to go but the truth. I'd still respect it. Even though he's caught red. You know, sometimes, like, when you. When you catch your kids red, like, you gave them a chance before that, but then you really catch them red handed. Like, you're like, I wanted you to come forward before this, but. But you still get credit at the end of the day, you know, you're.

[Brent]

Back in a corner and then you say it like, okay, it's still better, right?

[Drew]

It's better than nothing. So, Tim, let's. Let's see what you do with this one. One. And you know what? I'll tell you. I'm telling. I don't say a lot of the personal stuff out loud, but I will, I will. And I'll let them know. Hey. I'll say in full transparency when I text him, I'll be like, hey, this is on the record. What do you have to say about this? And I'm gonna send him that clip.

[John]

Yep.

[Brent]

I'm sure he's seen it.

[John]

It's just crazy. Like, when you go to his Instagram and you go to his comment section and you see all the people defending him, I'm like, yo. All the time, they're always just like, oh, don't listen to the haters. I'm like, you guys realize it's green. Like, he's a Green Beret.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

Like, there's a lot of Green Berets calling out another Green Beret.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

Then you have these people who never served in the military, and they're like, oh, they're a bunch of haters. And I'm like, bro, the community is calling him out. Like, and it's not some random dude.

[Brent]

How do you police. How do you people expect us to police our own in our. In our respective industries? Right? And so how. How are we supposed to police our own when, you know, Tim Kennedy fanboys are. Are mad that Green Berets easily can pick apart.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Easily pick apart. It doesn't even have to be a Green Beret. Anybody could pick apart if you been better alive for more than 20 years.

[John]

And it's not like a. It's a hearsay. It's like a mate. Like, there's actual proof. Like that video right there. It literally. He's like, yeah. You know, like, I mean, he's not even denying it. He's not like, oh, hey, I actually. That I just got a bsm, which he does have a bsm. And it's like, why isn't that good enough for you? You know?

[Drew]

Well, because we. We. Anyone who's deployed at least an SF or. And. And. And most infantry units, like E6 and above, a BSM was a you showed up award. It really was. I believe I'm right about that. E6 and above on the infantry, but a lot. It was. It was a you showed up award.

[John]

Yeah. I mean, it's just crazy that when I see, like I said, people defending him when the Green Berets are the ones calling him out. Oh, you. Oh, you actually. Oh, you actually have his number. You actually text to him.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

That's great. Do you think he. Do you think he's watching right now?

[Drew]

No, Last week, I think his mom was watching and said, quit picking on her son. But that may have been a Fake profile.

[Tyler]

No, there was a threat. There was a threat and said, or he'll steal more valor.

[Drew]

Oh, he'll feel. Oh, oh, here's, here's. I saw the same thread where his dad chimed in, and his dad is like, Kennedy Farms or something like that. And. And they were like, I wouldn't say bagging on that because when they found out it was his actual dad, they were fairly respectful about it. But they were also straightforward. Like, how do you not know what your son is doing and what your son says and not try to influence him positively about this. Yeah, and I get it. I feel bad for his dad. Like, his dad snowed as. I hate to say it, as he should be. Like, I'm not. I'm not throwing any shade, like, to his dad. But when you talk about. But this. But this goes back to you, Tim. Like, it's not just you. You've now pulled everyone into this at one point. Your kids are gonna get old enough to see this and they're gonna. And they're. And you can't.

[Brent]

And you can't see the whole controversy.

[John]

Oh, yeah. I mean, there's just no. There's no denying it. The proof is there.

[Brent]

All right, super chat.

[Tyler]

All right. Joe says, I know I am not going to win, but $5 US greenbacks for an anti hero chorus singing YMCA by the Village People. Rock on, you guys.

[Brent]

You want us to see the Village People, you're gonna need more than $5. Well, thank you.

[Tyler]

And that's just singing it. There's no hand. He's not even asking for hand stuff in that everyday American again, I've heard some stories where SF guys flashing their teammates in various locations as a prank. Do you think that's too far or right on the line?

[Drew]

Yeah. I was in a. In our fire base and someone threw a flashbang while I was on the. Reading a newspaper. So, like, they. They didn't even throw it in as they shouldn't have because, I mean, you don't want it going off close someone's leg. They, like, pulled the pin and then like, set it underneath the. The stall door and ran away. I've told the story before. I had no idea they did it. I'm reading a. I'm reading a magazine, and when it went off, my hearing went completely deaf. My eyesight was like. It's kind of like like a video game. I'm like. Because it was such a small, confined space, I thought we'd got mortared. And I'm like, oh, they. They hit us and I'm I am wobbly as can be, only to slowly regain hearing and hear all the laughter and chuckles of my teammates and going, oh, I think. I think I know what just happened. And then look down the flash get bang body and be like, you mother effers.

[Brent]

You said it was too far. Unfunny prank in the world because it was too far.

[Drew]

I to this day, we laugh about it now, like it's funny. It's a funny story, but it's too far. It was too far then, it's too far now. Don't do that to your teammates.

[Brent]

Is there no safe space?

[Drew]

And then I venture it. I bet. I bet it took me 10 years to find out who it was. I thought it was one guy and it wasn't. And on his 30th birthday, I waited because all those things are paper thin, all the plywood walls. I waited till he's done FaceTiming his wife. And then I could hear him fall asleep. I hear him snoring. And I threw a six banger into his room. And it wasn't even him. It was the quiet one on the ODA that was a good friend of mine that I never would have expected affected. Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right. 144th, 145, 000 laundry services. Man, that's a lot of women working at one time. I better have wrinkle free sheets. Feeling like Brent's beard.

[Drew]

Amanda, get out of the camera.

[Tyler]

Oh, Amanda.

[Drew]

Geez.

[Tyler]

Dylan, Seal, 10 bucks.

[Drew]

Magnet, get control of your woman. It wasn't even a super chat word.

[Tyler]

Thirsty salt. Ten bucks. My cousin spent 16 years in the 160th. Never wanted to talk about it when I asked. He just made E8 and took over as first sergeant of the Sear School at Fort Rucker.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Is that considered a prestigious position?

[Drew]

For sure? Yeah. Yeah. If he's the first sergeant at Rucker, that's. That. That is. That's a good position. Rucker has a lot of different people that go through, but it's heavy on the aviation side that they go through Sears and it's a. He's. I'd imagine three to four years. If he wants to stay in, he'll have a opportunity to be sergeant major. Good for him.

[Tyler]

Gavin has way behind in the podcast, but did CAG like listening to Metallica when working out or prepping for an op or on the way to one?

[Drew]

Of course. Of course. And I made sure that I was almost always in charge of the music, both in the gym and pretty not as a 4. I see, but he's as a 3. I see. I pretty much got control of the music, which is pretty, pretty early. I'm proud of myself on that one.

[Tyler]

Zuby. Zuby says TK also just gave us a breakdown how to cook up a nuclear bomb. Great video, Tonya.

[Drew]

Like I said, Valhalla did a breakdown on that. And just roast them the whole time. Deservingly.

[Tyler]

Dylan Seal. I had family in the fall of Cabal and lost a friend in the Abbey Gate attack.

[Drew]

Oh, no.

[Tyler]

It boils my blood that he turned it into a PR event.

[Drew]

Sure did.

[Tyler]

Thank you for addressing it, RIP Sergeant Ryan Noss Geronimo.

[Drew]

Thank you. Thank you for saying this name.

[John]

Yep.

[Brent]

I know what I found. I found his hat.

[Drew]

Whose hat?

[Brent]

Nate's.

[Drew]

Oh, is that Nate's hat?

[Brent]

Pretty sure.

[Drew]

Oh, man. Otherwise, other way. No, no, that's right. The bow. Well, he hasn't missed it. You think he'd think you'd be upset. I feel like I can. I feel like I can cut out relief holes on the left and right and still get my. My. My headphones down on there or. You should make it fit.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

There you go.

[Tyler]

You look just like Nate.

[Brent]

Yeah. Nate Cornucopia.

[Drew]

Nick. Nick Cornucopia.

[Brent]

Oh, Nick.

[Tyler]

All right, beyond lockdown. Why does Mike Waltz not do anything about it? He is in a position to actually do something.

[Drew]

It. I know I was. I'm hoping he listened to me. And if he doesn't, then that's. That's the repercussions of not listening to the truth. Hope he does. Mike Waltz is a good man. So I'm actually glad you reminded me of that. I will text him again.

[Tyler]

You waltz down there and do that. All right. LeBron laday do that. UPS driver. Love watching the show helps me run these 10, 14 hour round out in this hot arse. Georgia heat.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Here's a little something for some beer. Keep up the epic work, boys.

[Brent]

Thanks, brother.

[Drew]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Tyler]

Thank you, man. Thanks for our packages.

[Drew]

Drivers make some bank.

[John]

Oh, they do. Yeah.

[Drew]

Rightfully so.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they work hard to, man. Yeah, they're always sweating.

[Drew]

Amanda, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Whatever you're gonna do, do it. Not like that, though. Oh, gosh. Jeez.

[Tyler]

Let's see here. We've got warlord for king. 82nd H KIA vet that will be starting a PhD in AI.

[John]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And drones at UWF in Pensacola in August.

[John]

University of West Florida.

[Tyler]

Hope to work with Florida State guard in the future.

[John]

Yeah. Come on. Love to have you. We got A drone division.

[Drew]

If you're an H. Kia vet, I'm assuming somewhat the. The Kabul International Airport. Is that the hk? Hk. Hk. H. Kaya, Will, were you please tell us exactly what HKA means.

[Tyler]

I thought that was the Hemi version of a Kia.

[Drew]

Maybe I don't want to take this off down a rabbit hole, but I saw Devin's got a. A cyber truck and I think it's badass.

[Brent]

I mean how are they so fast?

[Drew]

They're so fast. They drive like a car. Four wheels, four wheel steering until you drive one. Shut up. But while we're at a charging station, like an all electric Kia.

[Brent]

Hey, you lost me there. So while we were at our charging.

[Drew]

Station like all electric Kia pulled up. It was a good looking car or SUV. It's an SUV and their Tellurides have been good looking SUVs and they've had a couple cars recently that they were good looking. Nothing I would buy. I'm like, ah, it's Kia. That's, that's nice. Then I saw a Buick on the road and I was like, damn, I wouldn't buy a Buick. That's, that's a good look. Have you seen the new Buicks? I'm get, I'm getting to something here. I know, give me a second. There's two random things. Those two to me are like, like over the past 10 years, like most improved car companies, like I would have never looked at a Buick 10 years ago and think that's a good look. This has always been your grandparents car, you know. And a Kia's just always been criminal. A Kia. You know what I mean? Tell me another car company or truck company the last 10 years that have done more than Buick or Kia. That's an honest question. Yeah, they've come a long way.

[John]

I think Buick was either going to evolve or die.

[Drew]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I absolutely agree with that. It was either going to evolve or die.

[John]

Yeah, I mean they just look like a, like a grandparents.

[Drew]

They even, they even they stayed true to their emblem but they redid it and even their emblem still looks good with their red, white and blue shield. It looks kind of futuristic.

[Brent]

Fan of Mopar. While everybody's going electric and economy saving, Mopar's trying to put Hemis in Dodge Durangos and mom's minivan.

[Drew]

So they're clinging on the life right now. Stellantis is terrible. Did you see the latest advertisement for, for, for Dodge and it's awesome. It's got this guy that comes with the mic and goes hey, the Ram. I think it was the Ram. Or maybe they said Dodge. I think it's the Dodge. Dodge did. Did away with the Hemi. And. And I'm come. And I'm. And I'm in charge of this now. So it's my job to say we. We were wrong, and we'll. We're not too big to admit that we're wrong. And we're bringing back the Hemi. And they brought it and they showed, like, all their future cars, like, coming out and just doing badass things. And, like, the Himi's back. Dodge has done a great job on advertising.

[Brent]

Remember the presidents? It was a Super bowl commercial, and it was. Oh, yeah, it was. It was a revolutionary war.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And also the Charger came with the American flag.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's another. I would. I'd almost put. I would almost put Dodge in, like, in. In that argument. They've. They have been pretty good for a long time, so I wouldn't. That would almost be discrediting what. What Dodge has done for the past. I mean, I think that the Ram truck is, like, 20 years old now. You remember, like, when it first, like, the rebranding of the Ram truck, they went from the same 70s body style for 30 years to one of the most, like, innovative body styles in the early 2000s, maybe even late 90s. How old am I? But when the Ram finally came out, like, damn, that looks like a badass truck.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And they still look a lot like that. You know, they still.

[John]

They got nice interiors. Real nice interiors.

[Drew]

That's how I know I'm getting old. Like. Like, I wanna. I don't care how good the outside or bad the outside looks. Show me the interior.

[Brent]

Yeah. I don't know how you guys are taking me seriously in this hat. I keep looking at myself. I'm like an idiot.

[John]

It's.

[Tyler]

It's a new look. All right, Connor says question for you lads. Your. Oh, okay. Maybe. Tyler, would you like to read this one? It's more your genre.

[Drew]

Why?

[Brent]

Okay, this is a pretty brutal one. Your tip in, your mom, dad's tip in you. Are you going forwards or backwards?

[Drew]

I hate that one. Damn. I hate that one.

[Tyler]

Our culture is going backwards.

[Drew]

I'm.

[Brent]

You gotta take. You gotta. You can't.

[Drew]

I can't.

[Brent]

Your mom.

[Drew]

I can't pick C and just turn on my back and. And just fight them both. I just can't turn on my back.

[Brent]

I will hit my parents.

[Drew]

I feel like you're in a caterpillar situation. Right? Like, you're all three on your side. I can't just turn on my back.

[Brent]

I don't know.

[Drew]

I don't know.

[Brent]

People are. That was five bucks, too.

[Tyler]

Just go to sleep. All right.

[Drew]

Not answering that for five bucks. I did one of those already.

[John]

Definitely.

[Drew]

And I screwed up. I hate to say this. Nate actually texted me and said, you screwed up on the Marikil. He's like, you kill yourself.

[John]

Did he respond to you?

[Tyler]

That's good.

[Drew]

All right. But. But unless he. He said. He said it couldn't load. And the video. The Instagram video I sent him.

[Brent]

So Tim Kennedy said the Instagram video you sent him camp.

[Drew]

But it is funny. He said, but if it has to do with the robo deal and I piloting the B2 bomber that hit Iran, we actually weren't the pilots. He's so annoying. But that's. That's. That's funny. And I can't.

[John]

He's not lying.

[Drew]

I can't. About time, right?

[Tyler]

Ben Brockway, five bucks. Thank you, brother. Brandon Bailey, Bunt. Favorite Metallica song. Also, TK sucks. D from the back.

[Brent]

What's your favorite Metallica song?

[Drew]

Damn, that's a hard one. I'm good, man. Yeah. I'm gonna go with Inner Sandman. I am.

[Brent]

I love how Virginia Tech comes out to it.

[Drew]

I'm telling you. Yeah, that is amazing. The first. It was like, maybe a year ago, I saw like. Like their. Like. Like their video of them showing. I didn't even know Virginia Tech did that. If you ever. If that ever comes across your social media of Virginia Tech getting hyped up before a football game at Inner Sandman, watch it. And if your skin doesn't get goosebumps and stock and start crawling, deport yourself. It's so badass. Didn't think the hokies could do something that cool, but damn, that's one of the coolest things in college football. Tammy, Florida, you do Tom Petty. I love that, but you gotta. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Dano. Not in the lion's den. Five bucks. We all love our stolen valor. I'm a seal, Ranger, marsoc. Navy Seaman. See what you did there. Testy cools. My chat was deleted. Bert, did you ever work with K13 as O2 11s, intel nerds while at the unit or during your military career? Love the show.

[Drew]

I want to say no, but I may have, because, you know, it's not like I asked them exactly, you know, what. What their MOS was. I want to say no, but. But I might have.

[Tyler]

William Patrick says, Trent Bucker, did you ever cross paths with Chris Von Sound just went back and listened to his Sean Ryan episode. Seems like a solid guy. Y' all rock.

[Drew]

You know, I do need to watch that. The only time I watch on Ryan episodes if I have a long. A long drive, and I just haven't had one in a little bit. But we got one coming up fast row, and maybe that's the one we watch. Watch together. Drew in the. In the rv.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Drew]

Going. Going down to Miami for. For the Florida association of. Of School Resources.

[Brent]

School resource Officers this year.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it was Alabama.

[Drew]

It was. It was the Alabama one. Okay. Yeah, that. That wouldn't let us.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Alabama. Let us know when you get a good leadership in your school. Resource officers.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Let's see.

[Drew]

So if anyone wants to hang out in Miami. Was it Monday through Wednesday?

[Tyler]

Yeah, let us know Monday and Tuesday.

[Drew]

I got to book a cigar with you. What day is that? This.

[Tyler]

This coming Monday's right after Sunday.

[Brent]

He was out of the date. I was thinking.

[Tyler]

I thought he said day. I'm sorry. I got headphones on my head.

[Drew]

I'll get you. I'll get you. It is the 20th. Is the 30th. It starts in the 30th.

[Tyler]

Dano. Not in the lines. Den. For two bucks. Just kidding. 74 Delta PP here. You're welcome.

[Brent]

Him.

[Tyler]

He was the guy that was doing the stolen valer thing. He's 74 Delta. What's that?

[Drew]

I don't know. What a 74 Delta. I got to look that up.

[Tyler]

All right. Thank you for your service, brother Barry. McCucker. Back in. Missed my chat earlier, Jerry. A guy at my first unit was supposed to get a bronze star with V in Afghan, but they gave it to a female major instead that went on patrol once and nothing.

[Drew]

Are you even kidding me? That's. That's such a disgrace. By the way, a 74 Delta is a CBRN specialist and absolutely worked with those guys, but what a disgrace.

[John]

Yeah. You know, I mean, do they not.

[Drew]

Understand what a slap in the face that is to the other. To the other men that earned bronze stars with. With V's. The. The hard way? It's just. It's a disgrace. It's what it is. It's a slap in the face.

[John]

Takes away from it.

[Drew]

Takes away from it. And I've always hated this about awards. There were several valor devices that. That were put up, and I got turned down for saying, hey, that was your job at the time. I didn't care. A little salty about it now, but. But in the day, I don't care. They go, well, you're just doing your job. I also hate that. And this is true. If a cook had done what I had done, he would have got a valor award. So. But this is. But that's my point. Valor awards aren't mos. Dependent valor is valor regardless of. Of who does it. So I hate that certain. Certain units put a higher threshold on valor awards than. Than other. And that just shouldn't be.

[John]

I don't. I don't think a lot of people realize how political awards can get. Like, Like, I'll just give you like two great examples on the controller side, Ishville Legas and Sean Harvell. Like, if you go read those guys Silver star citations, you. You're just like, this guy's literally Rambo. But because of political things with leadership, they'll downgrade. Like, you'll read these guys stuff. You're like, how is this guy not a medal of Honor or at least an Air Force cross where the guys are taking, like, they're actually getting hit. Fragmentation from RPGs. They're getting knocked unconscious. They're returning fire, killing guys. Lily with their bare hands and calling in airstrikes. And you're like, that only got that guy a silver Star.

[Drew]

Like one.

[John]

Like, like, ish got like two silver stars. And it's just like, why is that guy not higher than that? But there's a lot of politics that get involved. I. I saw my team start like, cooperation. I think Cooper has, I want to say, 11 bronze stars or something like that and three purple hearts. But it's just like when you read these guys citations, you're just like, he should get more. But leadership get involved. And they don't want guys to get high level awards because it'll put them in the spotlight. And they want to keep those guys because they're like, oh, I don't like that guy. Because whatever it is, DUIs or bar fights or just, you know, they don't respect me as a commander and they'll downgrade these guys awards. I saw that happen all the time. Yeah, like, all the time. So, yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of politics when it comes to awards.

[Brent]

Yeah, branches. Branches have to get certain amounts and.

[John]

You guys should get one in a while. You guys should get. Ishville's on here. He's out of Texas. He's a controller. Amazing guy.

[Drew]

Here's another one that's absolutely the truth. Every now and again you get those gatekeepers that are like, well, I didn't Get a Bronze Star with valor. And I did. I felt like I did the same thing. So I'm not gonna give one to you.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And that. And that absolutely happens.

[John]

Yeah. Ish. If you're watching, I love you. You're amazing.

[Brent]

Come on our show.

[Drew]

You love them.

[John]

Ish. Yeah, I love him. Ish. Great guy. Like, if you guys look him up, I mean, his Silver Star citations are insane. He's like, one of the most humble, nice guys out there.

[Drew]

I've thought about doing this, and maybe something we should do. I wanted to do. To maybe do an episode where we put Medal of Honor citations on Vietnam and maybe Even World War II, and we put them up against Medal of Honor recitations for the G. W.A.T. and I'm telling you, they're very, very different citations. I don't want to take away from Medal of Honor winners in the G. W.A.T. but I'm telling you, they're not the same. Same. They're not the same.

[Brent]

Left names out and just went with the citation. Without the names. I think it'd be. You could do that. I hate to say you can compare it.

[Drew]

It won't. I don't. I don't feel like it would play well because it made. Makes us sound like we're taking away from what those guys did. And the things they did were valorous. They just weren't Medal of Honor worthy compared to Rory Benavidez. You know, like, there's not a Roy Benavidez level of heroism in the whole gwat. And that guy didn't even get his Medal of Honor during Vietnam. It took several iterations of people fighting for him to get that. That's crazy. Think about that for a second.

[John]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Try not to make it.

[John]

I mean, same thing. You look at, like, World War II Medal of Honor recipients, and you kind of, like, read. I mean, like I said not to take away, but you're like, sometimes these guys deserve a lot more.

[Drew]

This is a crazy story. Audie Murphy, when he became a. An actor, afterwards, when they asked him to reenact the. The things that. That. That were like, true story type movies, they actually had to tell him, hey, we're gonna have to tone this down. Because what you're. What you're saying, what you're. What you're telling us to do, like, no one will believe it. He's like, but that's. But that's what happened. They're like, yeah, but no one's gonna believe that. So we're gonna tone it down. That's how crazy Valorous Actions were in World War II.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And Vietnam. They didn't stop in Vietnam. The Vietnam valor says we've had SAW guys on here. It's just their stories are amazing. It just, it's not the same. Threshold of valor is. Is what I'm saying.

[John]

Yeah, it's true.

[Drew]

Hell, Slabinski, bring up that Hot Topic. The guy got a Medal of Honor for breaking contact and leaving a controller on the mountain. You think that, you think that's a Medal of Honor in Vietnam?

[John]

And they did it right before Chapman's Medal of Honor.

[Drew]

You think that's a Medal of honor?

[Tyler]

World War II?

[Drew]

Yeah, I almost want to. Makes me want to say the F word.

[Tyler]

F. No, forget them.

[Drew]

And again, forget that. Forget that. And, and, and, and in fairness, just for a second, I'm, I'm not saying what Slabinski did wasn't valorous because he volunteered to go back up to the mountain to go, to go do that. To go get Rob o' Neill's body. What he did was valorous. And I actually don't want to take in the worst conditions. Knee high snow at night, getting fired at from several positions. That was valorous. Was it Medal of Honor? Not a chance. Get out of here.

[Brent]

Were you joking when you said Rob o' Neill's body?

[Drew]

Oh, did I say Rob?

[Brent]

Yeah, I didn't know if you. I missed the gym.

[Drew]

I meant now. Now. Gosh. This is Neil Roberts, Roberts Ridge.

[John]

Roberts Ridge.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's.

[John]

Yeah, that's a pretty.

[Drew]

It's alive. We can't even cut that out, can we?

[John]

That's a pretty sore subject in the controller community on that one.

[Drew]

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

[John]

Yeah, especially. Well, just because of the politics behind. And not nothing against the seals on that, but just like the way the Navy politics got involved in that.

[Brent]

That's what I'm saying. Like the branches.

[John]

Yeah. And then they were. Well, because what it was, they left a man behind and they don't want.

[Drew]

To publicly advertise and lied about it and said, I checked him intentionally. And then ISR approved. You didn't.

[John]

And the Navy intentionally kind of blocked that for a long, for a long time time. And then once they, they declared Chapman was getting a Medal of Honor, that's when they announced that guy getting a Medal of Honor and they pushed it right before his.

[Drew]

Is. Is Pete Blabber's episode coming out this Monday? I believe so. Pete Blaber was a ground force commander for all Tier one AFO op teams with. During Operation Anaconda. It's this Monday and this Will be probably the third time we've covered it. The first time was loosely from a guy who knew plenty about it. But the second time we covered it was from the AC130 controller, which was a great perspective of it. And then we had Pete Blaber come in and give the. The ground force commander's perspective of it, which was different. And. And as you'd imagine, Pete Blabbers a. A well respected Delta Force operator. And that man came and just surgically laid out all the problems, everything that happened. Slideshow about it that side with. Yeah.

[Brent]

Next slide.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. He. He. When that comes out Monday, you should. You should watch it. And. And there are some things to be honest with you may not like that don't coincide with the classic Chapman story. And it's. It's. It's his opinion. Yeah, but it's his opinion as a ground force commander. So it weighs heavily. He doesn't take anything away from Chapman, but there's some things he brings up that's like. Like, whoa.

[Brent]

Yeah, that's.

[Drew]

That's different. Anyway.

[Tyler]

All right, Tyler, we got Todd Smith for 200 bucks. Oh, I'm listening to a Stil Simpson song called Arms.

[Brent]

As long as he's not making me sing something.

[John]

Where's his question?

[Tyler]

You open that door?

[Brent]

What? Oh, you got pin.

[John]

Where's this question at? I don't see it up there.

[Tyler]

It's not. It got deleted. But then the chat chats 200 because it's 200 bucks.

[John]

Good man. Yeah, good man.

[Tyler]

So Todd Smith. It's Stoogels. My stoogel. Simpson called arms Stoogel.

[Brent]

How do you spell stoogel?

[Tyler]

I don't know. They spelled it S T U G I L. Or is it S T U R G I L. What's the song called? Called Arms. Rudy says broke back anti hero because of the mom and dad scenario. Ricky Rusta says. Hey, guys. Love the show. I wanted to ask Brent, has he ever heard of my uncle? CSM Nathaniel Frost? They called him Jack. He was a sog guy back in day, during Nam. Peace brothers. Keep up the good work.

[Drew]

I haven't, but. How old do you think I am? Yeah, I'm. What years were you and I. I colored my beard so we wouldn't have these questions. No, I haven't heard of them. But if. If that's who your uncle was, I got to show you.

[John]

I think he's a.

[Drew]

A. He's a badass.

[John]

TK Served with him.

[Drew]

Of course.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna do my best here. Cool Hand. Dan says TK the blumpkin buster Chay tack sharpshooter note. Raffle off Nate's hat. Okay. Love y' all boys. So raffle off Nate's hat. What's a chaytac? Sharpshooter. Is that Ktac? Chaytac.

[John]

I don't know if he's trying to say jtac, but he spelled Shay.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it might have been.

[John]

Maybe know Autoc.

[Drew]

Wait, wait, wait. Go back. Just real quick. Buster sh. No, no. The. From the. The shy. Tack.

[Brent]

The shy.

[Drew]

The shy tech sniper weapon that he said he.

[John]

Okay, okay.

[Tyler]

Salvador back in Ice them song Theme song Illegal Alien by the band Genesis that's $2. Put that on the list. It's right up there. Papa just just skipped this thing. Tries to me bonkers.

[Drew]

Not bonkers, Drew. Watch your mouth, man. This is a family show.

[John]

Boulder Dash.

[Brent]

Papa Sh.

[Drew]

I assume every father has and makes his kids also watch the Thursday night lives with them.

[Tyler]

That's right, Papa Shaw. TK Eats bananas for the shape and not the flavor.

[John]

I'm gonna save that one. I like that.

[Drew]

That's good.

[John]

Dano.

[Tyler]

Not in the lion's dick. Deltas lead the way.

[Drew]

This is one of the most homophobic things I do. I break off the pieces of banana to eat them. I will not eat them. Just peel them and eat them. Is that. Is that too much popsicle? I don't eat. I don't eat popsicles.

[Brent]

Have you ever seen that? How do you. Have you ever seen how to eat one, though? They take the knife and you cut it off.

[Drew]

I love the commitment. I love the commitment.

[Brent]

It.

[Drew]

Oh, Drew, tell us, have you learned anything about sitting and peeing? Oh, gosh.

[Tyler]

All right. So because of the 12 Day War and the. Everything going on between Israel and Iran, I've been brushing up on my Persian history and stuff like that, getting into some Islamic doctrine and Sharia law. A lot. A lot of fun stuff. And I discovered that in one of the hadiths, that. Which is a short story of the prophet Muhammad and everything that he did, every Muslim is supposed to do. It's different than Christianity. Even though Jesus fasted 40 days, a Christian doesn't have to fast 40 days. But if Muhammad did it, every Muslim is supposed to do it. Muhammad squatted or sat to pee all the time. And so it is in Islamic teaching that the literal, strictest schools teach, especially in Iran and Saudi Arabia. If you pee, you're male. You have to squat or sit. Now, some of the moderate Muslims, they. Outside of the Middle east, they Kind of play loose with the text. And they say, well, you can stand. If it's too dangerous to squatter, sit. But it's in their religion. You squat or sit to pee. Because Muhammad squat to pee. He did that for modesty and cleanliness.

[Drew]

I want all you listeners think about that. I can no longer sit the pee even. Even at midnight. Now back to turning on the lights and just sucking it up or maybe just missing a little bit. I'm okay with that.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

You know, guys, before it gets too late, I brought y' all some. Some goodies. Did you? Yeah, I brought you guys some goodies. I want to give it to you, actually, you know, because I know you guys were so pumped about the shirts I brought you last time because you wear them on almost every episode.

[Drew]

John. I. I wear that shirt.

[John]

Do you?

[Drew]

Okay. Yeah.

[John]

Well, I. I brought you some more. And actually, I got a bunch of extra shirts for you guys, too. So hopefully most guys are large, but for the coffee company, I know you guys need some good coffee. Coffee mugs, and I got. I got the good coffee mugs because the best coffee has to have the best coffee mug, for sure, right? So I brought you guys some coffee mugs. I brought three, because I brought one for my man back here in the back. Drew. I knew he was there.

[Drew]

Hold on. Let me pick the best one first.

[John]

Now, I will say this.

[Drew]

Oh, get out of that eagle one. That one for sure.

[John]

I wanted to bring you the print of this shirt. I just couldn't fit through the cargo door of the plane because it was too big. But this is one of my favorite ones. I thought you guys would like it. But I got in a shirt for you. It's this osprey I took with a little. Help me out here with the fish.

[Drew]

No, call that. Call that needle.

[John]

It's an osprey.

[Drew]

No, no, call it an eagle, though.

[John]

But where he's got the fish coming out of the water, right?

[Tyler]

Nice.

[John]

But I couldn't fit. The one I had was, like, half my body size, and it just couldn't.

[Drew]

Fit through the door.

[Tyler]

Beautiful picture.

[John]

So I will bring that to you guys if you want. But the wife. This was the wife's idea. She had a good idea because it was Pride Month. And for Tyler and Brent, she was like, you know what, babe? I think this would be them. She's like, this is Brent and Tyler.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

And I was like, you know, it's kind of a darker, you know, print. So we kind of go good in the darker kind of studio. But for the audience.

[Brent]

I was like, why is Brent taking his shirt off now?

[John]

Because he's getting excited for Pride Month, you know, but for the audience that don't know, I. I do bird photography and all these, like, little cell phone cases that I make and. And prints. I give every dollar. Charity. A lot of it went to North Carolina last year, a lot of military charities. I think last year, actually, surprisingly, a big thing of it was Sean Ryan. But we did a little over $27,000, really, in charity.

[Tyler]

Where can they go to buy these goodies?

[John]

You can get it on John Howard R Art Dot com. You can go in there and just buy anything. Like, I had a guy the day bought 15 mugs. I mean, they're. And actually, right now, there is a promo July 4th. It's like 30 off everything till, I think, July 9th or something. But you can go get your T shirts, whatever, cell phone cases. But every dollar you spend on there, every proceed. Every dollar the company makes, I take them all myself. Take them almost. I just took this one in Costa Rica a few weeks ago, this one and. And that one right there. But I got some cell phone cases in here, too, if you have iPhone 16 plus. So I got some goodies in here and stuff for you guys and then beach bags. But, I mean, it's how I. I help out charities. And we're doing a charity event in North Carolina July 30, fundraising dinner, and all the proceeds we're actually going to be donating. I'm not gonna announce who the charity is yet, but I did mention their name earlier, but. Because I haven't told them, but. Yeah, this is.

[Drew]

Oh, you haven't told them yet?

[John]

I haven't told them yet.

[Drew]

We're.

[John]

We're going to surprise them.

[Drew]

So you can still make it to the Cat 2 Foundation for Law Enforcement?

[John]

Yeah, we can.

[Drew]

Definitely haven't told them yet.

[John]

So a big thing I do is I. I'll take a print, I'll sign it, and then we. We auction it. And like this flamingo one I did at the aerial Recovery gala in Nashville last year, we actually auctioned the print for a little over $2200.

[Drew]

Damn.

[John]

Most of them go for about.

[Drew]

About.

[John]

About 1500-2000. But it's a great way to, you know, make some money for charity. But it's a way of giving someone actually something instead of just saying, hey, give me a check for something. You know, I might.

[Drew]

Might see if Tyler let us take down the skull in the green hat and replace it with this as our Centerpiece. If it. If it doesn't. If it doesn't happen, it's because. It's because Tyler said no.

[John]

And eventually I will. Yeah.

[Tyler]

You know what?

[John]

I like that one on you. I'm gonna bring you that big one. I'm gonna bring you. I'm about to ship it to you, then I'll come sign it. But that one's one of my. My favorite ones you got on right there with the Osprey.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[John]

You look ten pounds more, Jack. Just with that shirt on already.

[Drew]

Sure.

[John]

I mean, like, you see the hair looks good. Your skin looks good.

[Drew]

I mean, like, just that eagle. Just taking that fish.

[John]

Eagle. Taking that fish right out of the water.

[Brent]

Cool Osprey on your shirt.

[John]

It's a mini eagle.

[Drew]

I did not. Did not know eagles were also close.

[Brent]

That picture was probably taken in Canada.

[John]

I actually have a math.

[Drew]

Where was this picture taken?

[John]

That was in Santa Rosa beach on the. On the water.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Brent]

In America.

[John]

So I have my second Gulf of America at my second home down in. In Bonita Springs. I took a picture of this as moguls do. Well, I had this massive eagle print that's probably, like 5ft tall, but I couldn't fit that one in the plane. Sorry. I got small planes.

[Drew]

That's small plate problems. It's got to get a bigger plane.

[John]

You guys don't understand.

[Tyler]

Tow it.

[John]

When the new plane comes. You can fit that one in there.

[Drew]

Tow it.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

Can you fly like, an anti hero banner over the beach?

[John]

That's absolutely. That's.

[Drew]

Oh, that's old school marketing. That's old school marketing, but I love it. I've never seen a plane fly by with that big banner behind it that I do.

[John]

I mean, didn't we talk about you guys rapping the plane and you guys pay for the fuel?

[Drew]

Yes.

[John]

Yeah. Yes.

[Drew]

Let us wrap the plane.

[John]

I think it'd be great.

[Brent]

We'll donate our super chats, but seeing.

[John]

How wealthy your audience is in the chat, donating all this money, hey, you guys go buy a little bug for like six bucks, you know?

[Brent]

Yeah, they will website.

[Drew]

And. And we'd make more money if they. If you 2 didn't take 30%.

[Brent]

30%?

[Drew]

That's insane. 30.

[Brent]

So the way I think it works is we're considered YouTube partners, so we're not partners, but YouTube takes. They do the tax part of it. So they pay us directly and they take out the taxes.

[John]

I didn't know that.

[Tyler]

And then you pay taxes.

[Drew]

Yeah, but then we're gonna pay taxes.

[Tyler]

Then you Pay taxes on the money.

[John]

You got on your cut because they're gonna give you a 1099.

[Tyler]

Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.

[Drew]

Exactly.

[Tyler]

Okay. Ben Brockway says, I'm a career tech teacher for criminal justice. What is a truth to tell the students? I quoted you with appropriate amount of inappropriateness in my class waiver. Thank you, Tyler.

[Drew]

Quote.

[Tyler]

All right. What's good Truth. Tell students.

[Drew]

Truth to tell the students in your.

[Tyler]

In his criminal justice class.

[Drew]

Tyler, I'm going to let you. Let's take it first swing at that. Up your alley.

[Brent]

Don't. If you go into law enforcement. Don't. Can you turn my mic up a little bit, Drew? Just a little bit. Just a tad.

[Drew]

A tad, if you will.

[Brent]

Tad. Don't go in thinking that you have to be a cop for a career. I say treat it like a military contract. Go in and get some life experience. Have some fun. It might be a career for you. You might love it. You might do five years and be like, hey, that was enough. I'm out. That's what I would suggest.

[Drew]

That's a really good question, actually. What's. What is a truth.

[Brent]

And everybody's pants that they're wearing is their pants.

[Drew]

Here's again, I didn't, I didn't do the profession. So, So I hate, I hate it almost talking like for them. But that the, the law. The law is colorblind. The law is colorblind. So if, if you, if, if you break the law, it doesn't. Like, they didn't. They didn't pull you over because you're black. They didn't. They don't go after certain colors that the law is colorblind. Don't break the law. And no one. Then you don't. You don't have to worry about.

[Brent]

What about.

[Tyler]

Well, ice goes after certain colors.

[Brent]

Is it.

[Drew]

Don't break the law.

[Brent]

Is it status blind like Tyree Kill.

[Drew]

Oh, that's. Yeah.

[Brent]

You.

[Drew]

I didn't say it was status blind. I said it was colorblind. And you know what? When. And that actually has. The cabinet is. Is green. Actually, it is a little bit status blind, I think.

[Brent]

I mean, because we talked about the pros and cons of like.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Not, you know, somebody that big of status maybe not ripping them out of the car as much as you would rip out like a crackhead out of the car.

[Drew]

We went back and forth on that a little bit. No, he's a Miami dog Dolphins wide receiver. He was a Kansas City chief wide receiver. And and, and I said like, hey, I stand by it. When he got ripped out of the car, I was like, hey, this is going to go viral. So on people like that, you do give a few more chances to come out, but I don't believe the end result is the same. The law is the law. But you have, you have to know.

[Brent]

I think execution of the law could be different. The court of laws should still be the same.

[Drew]

You know, I'll. I'll give you a question. Remember the. Just not too long. Sheriff Lopez got arrested and he got arrested right in his office, in his uniform. In his uniform, in front of everyone.

[John]

Oh yeah.

[Drew]

And there was a part of me that looked over and said, I don't. That's just not a good look. Like, where's the professional courtesy? Like, you know, but. And then a part of me is like, well, the law is the law.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

They would have arrested anyone else at their place of work. Yes, you're innocent until proven guilty, but you're not above the law. Like, what do you think about that?

[Brent]

I think that, that that is a definition of transparency. We will. You know, because there's a lot of.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Old school sheriffs that, you know, they get away with it because of the good old boy system. And that was that. That whoever that was, the feds or they were showing like not even the sheriff can commit crimes like this.

[Drew]

Okay. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. It was just my, my initial take on. And I thought more about it, I.

[Brent]

Was like, well, because here's the thing. If it was a DUI or dvr, a domestic violence, something where like multiple. Multiple men every day fall. I don't want to say fall victim. Victim to it, but they make a bad choice real quick.

[Drew]

Right.

[Brent]

And now they have to pay the consequences.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

This was a pre planned criminal activity that he was doing. Yeah. I think that's different.

[Drew]

And you see, his wife got. Got rolled up for spending that. That money.

[Brent]

She. I think she tried to hide some of it too.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

I think is if they didn't make that so public and then like the media and people found out, they'd be like, oh, they're trying to cover it up.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[John]

So they kind of had to make it like spotlight.

[Tyler]

Dano. Not in the lions. Then back again. I have played with actual nerve agent. You do that.

[Drew]

No.

[Tyler]

Joe Saunders. Okay. Anti hero. Remember, I am not a. Not a navy man. So what is long, hard and full of semen? A submarine.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

Neil says TK eats corn the long way. Britain. Ty, did you Guys know I. Mike Oxmol.

[Brent]

Mike Oxmol.

[Tyler]

Oh, there it is. Okay. All right. Everyday American. In the Sean Ryan show episode, Larry Vickers said he felt it was wrong how the it's you job explanation was always the answer when Delta guys did superheroic things. Is that still the way it is.

[Drew]

That we just talked about?

[Tyler]

Oh, it's your job.

[Drew]

It's your job. We just talked about it. Yep.

[Brent]

I got, I mean when you were telling me that the valor where it's like, you know, your job and a cook, I was thinking in my head like when you tell like, you know, you have kids of different ages and the one kid does something and the other kids go, I do that. It was like, we expect you to do that. That's what you're expected to do. You know, he gets praised because he's not expected to do that. And I didn't know if that was.

[Drew]

Like, maybe I'll, I'll tell you know, not to. It's not like a, a hype story. But, but I've told this story SWORD before. If anyone else would have traveled a kilometer away from the main element and put their, put their lives on the line for an HVT and shot three people out of out of four to ensure that the reason we came out here was, was, was, was worth the trip. Just job agnostic. If a cook puts themselves willingly in a position to go into a one out of four, you know, firefight and kills three people and you know, gets shot by the fourth, that guy gets a silver star all day long. And for killing the. The hvt those force operator gets it. They're like, that's your job. It's your job to wander a kilometer away from the element. It's your job to get into a one on four situation. It's if it was actually your job to kill all four of them. So how dare, so how dare you come back shot.

[Brent]

I think you cracked to code. I think it's the expectation of the job.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

You know, because it's a cook leaving the element and going to do that. Is that cook going like. As opposed to you going. I'm gonna go do this real quick because this is what I do every night and I'm gonna come back, you know.

[Drew]

But what I'm saying is like valor, like the term valor has, has no distinguishment between the job. Like valor is valor regardless of who does it. That makes sense.

[Brent]

It does. But like you did 20 years of the gy. What's valorous to you in in on one mission might in your own head is like, this is my job. A cook is. That's valorous to him, you know? I don't know.

[Drew]

I see what you're saying. So you're saying at the end of the day, valorous is. Is subjective. What's. What's valorous to one person may not be valorous to. More subjective. That it's a good argument.

[Tyler]

Change standards and women and in the military things. You know, that. That. That things are hard for girls. And so that that's how they change the standard with women getting into the military, that same mentality.

[Brent]

What's hard for girls? So you hard for girls?

[Tyler]

Sometimes. Sometimes. Why would I not be? You're supposed to be. All right, chuck loaner. It's 20 bucks. Thank you, Chuck. Moski says, can you explain the difference between Delta and Ranger Reconnaissance Company? Are they Tier one? Do they only recruit from Ranger rig?

[Drew]

Yes. The only recruit from Ranger Regiment. Are they. Are they Tier one? I'm not. Not. Not. I might piss off because. I don't know. Not that I know of. But yeah, someone rc used to be called Rod. Ranger Regiment. Oh, my gosh. Ranger Reconnaissance Attachment now Ranger Reconnaissance Company. I don't believe the Tier one. I didn't see him on any of my tier one objectives. Sounds like a dick, but.

[Brent]

I don't know how to say tier two. I don't.

[Drew]

I don't know what they are.

[John]

1.5.

[Drew]

I know this. And I. And I've given them credit before. Their selection process is legit, which only makes me go. If. If you're gonna go through such a hard selection, just go to West Virginia and do the actual job.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Barry Maccachoner is digging in the text again. At that same unit, another guy overhead overheard leadership and company office saying, we don't give Bronze Stars to lance corporals. Sorry. I ran out of space.

[Drew]

Yeah. And I hate that awards shouldn't. To me, they should be mos. Agnostic and rank Agnostic. There's nothing. Just the. The Bronze Star for service. Like, I'll usually went to E6 and above. There's nothing that ever said like, you can Only give an E6 a Bronze Star for service. Like, that's ridiculous. It's. What. What was their service? Should have been. Should have been the. The threshold.

[Tyler]

Here's a question by James De La Cruz. Should vets and military personnel receive a Purple heart for combat PTSD?

[Drew]

No.

[Brent]

You get. You get 70% VA disability if you so choose to claim it. But a Purple Heart is for, you.

[Drew]

Know, People get mad at me all you want. PTSD is for the weak and the weak minded. So I'm not gonna give you a Purple Heart for being weak minded. You signed up for a dangerous job. You saw some bad stuff. Welcome to war. You don't, you don't get anything extra for it.

[John]

Every vet would get a Purple Heart if they did that.

[Drew]

Have you guys looked up the history of the Purple Heart? Well, the George Washington story, it used to be a valor award under, under George Washington.

[John]

So he ended up two.

[Drew]

And they cut it out of purple cloth because it was considered a royal color. Okay. And it was an FU to England when he handed it to the two people. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then apparently I've also heard that because it was a royal color. Yeah. And then now, yes, it was like another fu. But then now another thing I've heard is they ordered so many Purple Hearts from World War II that I've heard they're still. That's what they're still handing out to today. Really out. Yeah. The casing that it comes in and everything hasn't changed. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised on that. By the way. What is it next? Is it next Thursday? Is. Is the live. You won't be here July 3rd. I'm gonna let you guys know right now. It's a July 3rd live. It's. To me, it's a July 4th live. We're going all America all the time. Every super chat better be about America. Better be about fun facts about the, the Founding fathers. And that's what we're doing. I got a costume for it.

[Brent]

Get it. Co host.

[Drew]

I'm working on one. Maybe Brian, my Delta Force buddy. But we're, we're, we're dressing up and we're going. We're going all America on it. I'm excited.

[Brent]

Right in the middle. Dressed up as George Washington. But do the whole. You remember how Will Ferrell did the whole thing in George Bush?

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Brent]

Just do the whole thing as George Washington.

[Drew]

So. Well, I got some ideas. Hopefully it's ridiculous, but in a good way. Like I said, all you super chats. Better. Better there Will. If everyone's super chat decides to do like cool facts about our fanning. Our founding Fathers. We'll learn about some really cool stuff.

[Brent]

I'll be watching from vacation.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Victor, our man driving for 18 hours. Great show, guys. Victor reporting. Yeah, he's working in Michigan. All right, Thursdays for the boys. Way to go, Victor. Beyond lockdown says Brent. What do you Think about Thomas Payne getting a moh.

[Drew]

Um, that's not, it's. It doesn't matter what I think about it. You know, it went through a bunch of chain of commands. They. They all approved it and, and he got it. So that's that.

[Tyler]

Jacob Schneider says. Bert, were there any direct support guys that were respected and treated like operators through length of service or stuff done on missions?

[Drew]

No, not, not to be a dick operators or operators, support guys and support guys. It does not mean that we ever treated a support guy badly. I would actually say at times at the unit, we treat our support guys really good. But it's easy to do that when support guys know their support guys and operators know their operators. But operators act like operators. They prove their operators every day. So there's no, there's, there's no reason to look over your shoulder after to do differently. But no, they were never treated like operators.

[Tyler]

Brandon Bailey says. I would argue Master Sergeant Chapman was close to what the old school Medal of Honor awardees did. Maybe not exactly the same, but close.

[Drew]

I. I will. I'll give you that, actually, because he charged a machine gun bunker. So that, that's actually a good one. But I'm telling you, watch Monday's episode. Pete doesn't. Doesn't take away from that first one. It's more like, like the, the follow on thing. That was the first time I, I'd heard that. But yeah, and Pete doesn't take away from. Don't. Not trying to be dramatic about like, oh, everything's different. No, no. Pete blabber gives Chapman a lot of credit, but the full story from his view may not be the standard story on that.

[Tyler]

John, I'll let you read this one.

[John]

Duchess Rizzi, $99. She's always spending money. I'm hungry. That's the wifey.

[Brent]

We spoke her out.

[John]

I. Maybe I, I think she's out there.

[Brent]

I don't know.

[John]

She's probably talking to some guys or something.

[Tyler]

She's super chatting in the room next door.

[Drew]

You're a real estate mogul. A dollar 99.99 babe.

[John]

Come on. Gotta bump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.

[Drew]

You're representing him. You're making him look foolish.

[Tyler]

Dano. Not in the lines. Then back again. There's no such thing as a Delta Force Army. You can be a Green Beret, you can be a Ranger, you can be Airborne. It's a subsection.

[Drew]

Did I say Delta? Did someone say Delta Force Army?

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Drew]

I hope not. But yeah, he's right. So such things. Adult Force Army. That'd be badass, though.

[Brent]

That's like a Spartan army.

[Tyler]

All right, Dano, back in. And the real question is, your 82nd or 101 is gay. Kenny says late to the live. Brent, you're looking small. Tyler, you're jacked.

[John]

Not since he changed shirts, though. Now he. Now he's jacked. You know what you need? Another creatine gummy. What?

[Brent]

You're looking more ripped.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm in a cutting phase.

[Brent]

Cutting.

[Drew]

Get off my ass.

[Tyler]

This is lean. This is lean. Look, he's lean and mean.

[Drew]

Dano, we're just eating these because we're hungry.

[John]

I like it. I like it here.

[Tyler]

Marcus Luttrell. Here's another deal. Paid by seaman. I mean the Navy. Chuck Loner. Drew is my spirit animal. Please have him as a guest.

[Brent]

He is Drew. Why don't we. Doing it.

[Drew]

You.

[John]

You.

[Drew]

You ready to do right here, the Revelation episode?

[Brent]

No, you have to be here.

[Tyler]

I'm always ready for the Revelation episode.

[Drew]

Oh, that's not true. Last time you said you're like, oh, I. I need some preparation for that.

[John]

Did I.

[Tyler]

Did I say that?

[Drew]

You did.

[Tyler]

I was probably talking it up, making it sound bigger. It really is. Now we'll do it. Zulu Whiskey Sniper, LRP. Question for practicality. Is one time per 100. Is that meter sufficient or is more X always better?

[Brent]

No idea what that means. Oh, okay. Per one time.

[Drew]

I don't know. He's talking about for 1x per 100 meters. Maybe he's talking. I assume maybe because he's talking about, like, zoom. I'm possibly like a.

[Tyler]

There's more zoom. Always better. That's what the X is.

[Drew]

Yeah, right. Like, he's talking like a zoom. So if it's 700. Yeah, yeah. Magnification, like 7x per, you know, so 7x for 700 meters. If you're talking zoom, I will tell you. I will tell you this. The. The best advice always given to me was use the least amount of zoom necessary to make the shot. And that's in the tactical world, because the more zoomed in you are, the harder it is to get back on target aft after that shot, which you need to do. And you're more zoomed in. You don't see as much as the battlefield, if you will, than you should, because you're a zoom whore. And you just want to be uber zoomed in for this shot. So you use the least amount of. Of zoom needed for the shot.

[Tyler]

Like that one. Amina. 499. Thank you. Just do it. Napoleon Barn Apart famously said, a soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.

[Drew]

Fact. Gosh, that's so true.

[John]

I think we might have a new high bid in the chat.

[Tyler]

Barry, back in. Tell her to eat some creatine gummies.

[Brent]

Oh, hey, Go up. Oh, Drew, missed it right there.

[Tyler]

Oh, my bad.

[John]

290.

[Brent]

Golly, skip the highest chat.

[Tyler]

Fire me tonight, Duchess. Rizzy.

[Drew]

Duchess. She.

[Tyler]

John's right. She likes to spend money.

[John]

Spend money, man.

[Drew]

That's what she does.

[Brent]

She went from $1.99 to $300.

[Tyler]

I'm hungry. I haven't even heard that song. Is that an outro?

[Drew]

That's why he's a real estate MO.

[Tyler]

That'S got an exclamation point. It's getting serious. It's getting late, boys. We're almost done here.

[Drew]

Here.

[Tyler]

Barry says. Okay, Mr. Redundancy here. Glad my clip from last week could get over 100, 000 views. That's Mackellar.

[Brent]

Was the guy that did the double. What do you say?

[Tyler]

Oh, I don't remember what his question was, but it was hilarious.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

What do you think I should do to get ready for.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Selection or something?

[Brent]

Oh, my God. And we made it.

[Tyler]

I want to be a Green Beret or. I wanted to be something Navy seal. I want to be a Navy seal. What should I do to get started?

[Drew]

Twice.

[Tyler]

And he said the same exact thing twice.

[Brent]

Great sport.

[Tyler]

That was great, man.

[Drew]

We.

[Tyler]

We got a kick out of that. That was awesome. Vanessa in there. 20 bucks. Question for John. I heard Tim Kennedy was a big part of the rescue missions during Hurricane Helene. Helen.

[Drew]

Helene.

[Tyler]

Helene. Sorry, with the all them letters. Do tell.

[John]

State Guard, smu. Yeah, we talked about that earlier. We talked about it earlier. But, yeah, TK Definitely did not help.

[Tyler]

And you have to rewind, Vanessa.

[John]

Yeah, he. He did not help us at all.

[Tyler]

Rewind. That's like a. That's like a VHS or cassette tape term. Can you still say rewind in the digital world or.

[John]

No?

[Brent]

Because you know how people say videotape?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, like.

[Brent]

Like Pete Blaber, God bless his heart, was talking about the videotape. Yeah, you see the videotape? I'm like, exactly. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Pete, can we still call it rewind, or is there another term?

[Drew]

Right.

[Brent]

The next one's for you. We're gonna go to. We're gonna.

[Drew]

Like.

[Brent]

You're good. We'll do hard stuff.

[Tyler]

Did he say he's pooping?

[Brent]

Pooping.

[John]

Oh, grab another beer.

[Tyler]

He's getting drink. Brent, did you guys have trainers in cag? I'm a personal trainer and I work with college athletes also. Have you ever had the runs on a mission? Oh, speaking of pooping, there it is.

[Drew]

We did have personal trainers. I just never used them because I don't need another grown man to tell me work out.

[Tyler]

Boom.

[Drew]

The. No offense to your profession. Did I ever have the runs on a mission? Actually never in the Delta Force, did I, because we didn't eat a lot of the local foods, but. Oh, did I have the runs occasionally as a Green Beret. Oh, like one was like life threatening. Yeah, like. Yeah, yeah. I was turning into a story. But it was like July, 120 degree hot in, in Afghanistan. And there was this. And I. We were black on water. They kept on trying to drop water to us, but we were in a, in like a valley with, with high walls. And so they dropped the cases of water out to us. They'd all break and none of the water would get.

[John]

Didn't work.

[Drew]

Three days into this mission, we're only supposed to be there for two days. We're dying. And I come across. And so we, so we, so we break off into like, like three, two or three man teams to spread out in the valley. And I come across the coldest, clearest creek I've ever seen.

[Brent]

Oh, wow. It looks delicious.

[Drew]

Oh, and it was so delicious. It was so delicious. And I was, I'm. I'm telling you, like, walls are closing and I'm dying. I'm like, I should put my eye. I had, I. I had iodine tablets. I should have just put it in, but I was like, it looks so good. It's. It's good. And I drank the. Out of that water. It almost killed me.

[Brent]

Really.

[Drew]

It almost killed me.

[Brent]

I was, I was even the water in Afghanistan's terrorists.

[Drew]

I was down for the count. I made it. We were only there for one more day, and it just started to hit me the next day, but I couldn't.

[Brent]

Get out of bed because then if you're. Then you're dehydrating yourself even more.

[Drew]

I had this worm that was like inside my stomach. And like, you know, you, the, the medics, like, knew this immediately. Like, so when you fart smells like rotten eggs. He was like, oh, you got this like parasite or worm. Like, this is obviously another part of your problem. But it was a pretty easy fix. They gave me some pills, but it's one of those like, odd things. The simplest of pills can save your life. But if we didn't have that, like, I would have died over it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, just be me, you, John here, hard stuff. Would you guys want your kids to pursue your chosen profession? Sessions, Soft and Ellie, not podcast hosts. Would you want your kids to pursue your profession?

[Brent]

Funny he said that. All right, my, obviously. Do your, do your kids think it's cool that you podcast?

[Drew]

No, my son. I don't do anything cool to my.

[Brent]

My son is like, oh, I. Anything I do, my son could give a about. But he thinks it's cool that we have 100K subscribers. Subscribers on YouTube. And I tell them the only reason why we. We have a successful podcast is because the 20 years plus it took to build our careers and then talk about it and have the credibility. Yeah, I was like, the kids now they want to get on, you know, just become a. Like, you can't just be a podcast.

[Drew]

Like an 18 year old podcaster. Right. You have no opinion anyone cares about. You've done nothing. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

[Brent]

But yeah, I don't, I do not want my, my, my kids to go into law enforcement. I would like them to join the military. And I tell my son all the time, stay in shape. The Air Force has the best jobs that, that you could get to be in. Big boy military.

[Drew]

You know what's funny is I. My son's 10, but I don't want him to go to the military, but I would want him to go into law enforcement. Really? Yeah.

[Tyler]

Well, we'll switcheroo here. Podcast grass is always greener. All right, we got see Dixon Cider is back in. I'll try again. Got canceled in chat. I think I got a lie. Hate the show. Love the 6 foot forward or 6 foot down mantra compared to the Jockos and SRS's. How do y' all vet your guests? Keep up the good work.

[Drew]

That's actually a good question because I. When last time when I had lunch with Sean Ryan, he said something about a guest we had on and he said, oh, he's got a book out, doesn't he? I was like, yeah, I think we were talking about the Hell's Angels guy.

[Brent]

Jay.

[Drew]

Jay Doms. Yeah. I said, no, I didn't read his book. And he goes, oh yeah, you don't read all the books of the guests that you have on as a reference. That Tyler, that, that I gave him a hard time about not reading Tim is like, if you'd read Tim Kennedy's book, you'd have known these were lies.

[Brent]

That's funny.

[Drew]

As soon as I said that, I knew he was going to come back to me with that and I knew I walked into that. So how do we vet our guests?

[Brent]

Because we haven't had a bad one on Dead serious. I believe that me and you are such legit people that as soon as somebody comes into our sphere, whether it be a message or a text or we meet somebody, it's just like one of us can go.

[Drew]

I, I believe, I, I believe that a lot. Like, it's hard, it's hard to fake authenticity. Here's the other thing that I believe. It's, it would be really hard to fake. And that's your story. I believe possibly someone might get bias one day and, and be here. But the stories would, whether it be a law enforcement story or a military story, there's no way it would get bias. You know what I mean?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Because we would just ask hard. I'm not gonna just let you say something silly and not be like, well, hold on, let me ask, let me ask a follow up question to that. And so it would never air because we would know.

[Brent]

And I think people now are like, I'm not going on anti. Try to.

[Drew]

These guys, they'd be really stupid if they tried. Yeah. I mean even if I didn't know John McPhee, he would never, he could never get on here and like, and just me and be like, oh, I did singleton missions in Afghanistan and pretended to be a. I'd be like, hold on. Let's. Let's dig down into that.

[Brent]

Who is a commander, Right?

[Drew]

Yeah. So, yeah, I don't, I don't just. We're a little bit lucky enough to not to have it. But even, even if they got as far as to the desk, it would never make, it would never make an episode because we just pick them apart. I'm not just believing your story blindly.

[Brent]

Who's pranking me? This is funny. No, it's funny. Is a guy I'm friends with, Tyler. Oh. He came in one of our live shows. He's got, he, he's the advocate of going to the VA and get your brain scanned. He's got this tattoo on his face. He was at the Philadelphia Live.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

He said that he's friends with some of the guys in a SWAT team up there. And, and they were like, they're the running joke in the department is don't do anything stupid or you'll end up on Anti.

[Tyler]

Joseph, we only got about two more chats now. Joseph says would love to hear some more big army stories. From Tyler's barracks time. We all know there's some stuff that happens. Probably a full episode.

[Brent]

Yeah. Airsoft guns. A lot of airsoft guns.

[Tyler]

All right, last super chat of the night.

[Drew]

Here we go.

[Tyler]

Kenny Forbes. This is the one we were looking for. Last question before work.

[Drew]

Work.

[Tyler]

What's the gayest thing you guys have ever done? Also, has there been an SRS guest that was so bad it was almost laughable.

[Drew]

Rob o' Neill going back to Tim Kennedy.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And what's even worse, that was his hundredth episode. Like, what should have been a, like, really important episode milestone ended up being absolute pie in his face.

[Tyler]

What's the gayest thing you guys? Nothing I've ever done.

[Drew]

I don't know. We did a podcast with three dudes in a blow up, so, I mean, we'll get. I didn't think that was gay, but, you know, then again, we've never asked Andy. I was. I was on a dive team, so my, you know, what's gay to me is kind of skewed.

[Brent]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't.

[Drew]

Gayest thing I've ever done that I have to admit.

[Brent]

Like, homosexual gay or like stupid gay gay.

[Tyler]

What's the difference?

[Drew]

Gay is gay.

[John]

No, there's. There's poor gay and there's rich gay. So poor gay and rich gay.

[Drew]

Oh, hold on. I went to a gay. I've been. I've been to a gay club probably two or three times. The blank stairs. Maybe never, because that's what I wanted to do. Like. Like. Like the first thing that jumped my mind when I was in dive school in Key West. We ran across a bachelorette party and we hung out with them, you know, for most of the night. And they wanted to go to the north side of Deval or south side for the other side of Deval Street. And like, we're like, we're going to this good to gay club. We really want to go. Like, if you guys want to keep hanging out with us, that's where we're going.

[Brent]

And guys will do whatever it takes.

[Drew]

And we're like, well, yeah, yeah, we're.

[Brent]

Gonna go jump off this ledge, but.

[Drew]

You girls better stay close to us. They were like, all right, we'll. We'll protect you. But yeah, so going to a gay club's pretty gay. Wasn't happy about it. Not happy about it. Stop. Someone say something. I don't like.

[John]

I got a gay buddy. He was just like, no one likes a poor gay. He was like. He was like, no one likes a poor gay. And I. I just. I started. He's like, it's just their attitude. Is there anything about it? I just started laughing when I hear the gay hierarchy. Yeah.

[Drew]

I was like, I was at a gay bar with a bunch of girls, obviously.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew]

I dance on the box with my shirt off.

[Brent]

That's pretty gay.

[Drew]

That's pretty gay.

[Tyler]

Show me.

[Drew]

Don't do that. Show me.

[Tyler]

I don't believe you.

[Drew]

I have a picture.

[John]

They. They. They ranked us for a dollar 99.

[Brent]

They got it, John. They'd marry me.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brent]

They killed Drew.

[John]

They killed Drew. They didn't write Brent.

[Brent]

Or was it asking Brent who he would marry? Kill.

[Tyler]

Kill yourself.

[Brent]

Kill yourself. Now we know.

[Drew]

Just add that in there.

[Brent]

Gay. Chicken. Gay. All right, we've got at it.

[Drew]

We've done it.

[Brent]

We've done it.

[Drew]

We've done it.

[Brent]

Sorry if we missed a super chat. Obviously we tried, but we did our best. Yeah. Thursday night.

[Drew]

Who. Who. Who won the. The exit song real quick.

[Tyler]

Just. I. I just thought of it. The gayest thing I've ever done is I ordered Starbucks. That's the gayest thing I've ever done.

[John]

That's poor.

[Brent]

I know. As soon as we end this, I'm gonna think of something super gay. I did, but.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Drew]

Not convenient.

[Brent]

Stoogel Simpson. Call to arms.

[Drew]

Is that Sturgill Simpson?

[Brent]

Oh, he was reading it, Stoogel, but.

[Drew]

They might have got the R. Okay, hold on.

[Brent]

And then. Bad company. If you want to do two.

[Drew]

I do, actually. That's. Yeah, that's how I want to end it. All right. Here's some Sturgel Simpson called Arms. Five minute song.

[Brent]

You can cut it at the E.

[Drew]

We'll see how we're feeling it. Expand that. Expand that chat for me, Drew. Dangerous Brian. Good night, gang. Good night to you, sir. Frankie the Fixer. I don't think Mike Edwards would come on this podcast. He's a really good dude. What do you mean by that? He wouldn't come on this podcast because he's a really good dude. I'd like you to. To say more about that Apache 64 Hunter. I'm so glad Tyler doesn't have a 3am work call anymore. I bet he is too. Oh, Tom Wilson. What's up, Tom? Brent, Pete Blaber said videotape Buzz back in 2002. Pred ISR feeds and AC130 feeds were still saved to tape. Yeah, it's crazy how antiquated our recording systems were and probably still are. Zulu Whiskey. See you next week, brother.

[Brent]

Yeah, I like this song.

[Drew]

Some. Some feel good music. Ah, just go ahead, Amanda. It's your world. We're just living in it. Josh Hendricks. Peace out, brother. Evil Abe Lincoln top. Tyler, I saw a picture of you on Instagram recently. Why don't you have a neck? What do you say? I saw a picture of you on Instagram recently. Why don't you have a neck?

[Brent]

Huge traps.

[Drew]

It's an old traposaurus rex over here. Let's see what else we got.

[Brent]

Thing I ever did.

[Drew]

I used to take baths with bread. It was a Stichine placebo with.

[Tyler]

We were six.

[Drew]

We were six. With these thousand viewers, we could penetrate any military defense. Emphasis on the penetrate. I know we are small. The old anti hero army. I know that gets thrown around a lot like the term army, but I like that term.

[Brent]

I was just thinking we need a name for our supporters.

[Drew]

Yeah, the entire army. I. I still like it. Yeah, I like it.

[Brent]

You just ate it tonight.

[Drew]

Dan Drake. Brent, which other podcast have you been on? I saw one week before I found this podcast. I've been on a few. I. I know it sounds bad. I can't remember them all. Not that I've been on that many. I just can't remember their names. But my favorite one, to be honest with you, is my favorite one, and I can't remember the. The name of the podcast. This is horrible. And he's in the. He's in the chat room half the time. No. Dalton Fisher. The Dalton Fisher podcast. Uh, that's kind of the reason why I stopped doing podcasts. I told my whole story on Dalton Fisher and I was like, well, there's really no reason to tell my story again. If you want to hear my. My full story, go to the Dalton Fisher podcast. T bone says Drew, who made the bubbles in the tub?

[Tyler]

I just answered.

[Drew]

Oh, did you?

[Tyler]

We both did. We were farting machines.

[Drew]

Gerhart. Tyler was an 11 Bravo. We're all. We're all gay in a way. It is what it is. Accepted.

[Brent]

Tyler, you know what the gayest thing I've ever did? Stay warm.

[Drew]

Oh, for sure.

[Brent]

Stay warm.

[John]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

I have. I have straight up snuggled with another man underneath a blanket.

[John]

It. For.

[Tyler]

For.

[Drew]

For warmth. And that wasn't. That was in training in Afghanistan. It's. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Vanessa. Thank you. Dalton Fisher. Are you guys going to Sean Ryan? It's in the talks. We gotta. We. We. We have some. Some things that have to be agreed. Antihero T shirts. Lfg. Yep. You can. You can get them on Tyler's website. Current website name Tyler.

[Brent]

Counterculture Inc. Threads.com.

[Drew]

Yep. And he has one version of them. And frcccoffee.com has another version of it. Get them there. The song is pretty gay compared to dope. Patrick Mahoney. Oh, man.

[Brent]

I'm assuming he's the guy that paid 50 bucks for dope.

[Drew]

Okay, Brent, I got from Tom Wilson. I got a 20th Special Forces Group numbered Commander's award coin for you. Hey, Tom, send me. Do you. If you have IG, send me a. An IG message on FRCC. Also, Tom, if you're still with Twitter, 20th group is Tim Kennedy with B220. Tom, you should know that. Who's running B220 right now? What's going on over there, Tom? Send me a message. Give me your number. We gotta talk. I want answers. The world does. All right, that's. That's the call to arms. It started out kind of strong and upbeat, but it was. It. It wore me down. Actually. That's why I saved the best for last.

[Brent]

Bad Company.

[Drew]

Bad company. And you're. You're lucky I don't go Five finger death punch.

[Brent]

Okay, I like that one better.

[Drew]

You know what? It's our show. We the. The winner. The winner won. So now you get to hear the same version of sorts. But which ones we want. Ulysse Montes. Brent, are you gonna be on VFT Live on Friday? Yeah, he talked about it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to be there. My daughter has a volleyball tournament tomorrow. I'll see if I can't do it from there. Kyle Morgan would be an awesome guest from Justin Crocker. We. I know. Kyle was an OTC teammate of mine. He is a busy man, as we are.

[Brent]

The one time.

[Drew]

The one time we had it, a hurricane came through. I know. Well, Tom. Roger that. Thank you, sir. Seth, back in there. Delta dad says 18 Bravo is the best. I wanted to be an 18 Bravo. They made me be an 18 Echo. I wasn't happy about it, is what it is.

[John]

How many years was Brent in Vietnam?

[Drew]

All of them. It's. It. It's a. It's in my book coming out. More Scars and more Scars and More Stripes. I do. I want. You know, people ask me to write a book, I'm like, you don't want to hear the truth? Like, the truth isn't that exciting? I really thought about writing a satire book. And. And the name of my satire book would be More Scars and More Stripes and just tell ridiculous stories that. That aren't true.

[Brent]

And then. But you have like, there can be no LOLs or HAHAs. It's gotta be.

[Drew]

You know who I want to help me write the book? His co writer King Pics. Oh, I want. Yeah, pics to help me write a book.

[Brent]

Co written by his alias, the big name. I can't remember what it is.

[Drew]

Oh, because when he did our episode.

[Brent]

I wrote it out.

[Drew]

I had to. Because I had to introduce him and. And I had to write it down. Luis Lucius something. Luicius iii. Oh, gosh. Yeah, that's it. More scars, more stripes.

[Brent]

Yeah, that's it. Have him write it.

[John]

He'll write it.

[Drew]

The Brit Tucker story.

[Brent]

And then have him make up a bunch of. And then you go, sounds good. And then you agreed to it, so it's on you.

[Drew]

I'm calling him. I'm calling them. I still want to come on to. To do a. A satire episode about like, calling. We do call outs, obviously, sometimes what we're known for, for like calling out Mr. Rogers and be like, we need to do that. Yeah, we do need to do.

[John]

Let's just get AI to make some satire episodes.

[Drew]

We might wait. We pretty much could. Tom Spooner would be a good guess. Steve Williams. He's a good dude doing great things. Jane Graham. Brett, did you know the Delta guy who killed the Green Beret? No. He was in a different squadron. I did not know him. T Bone Brent is the reason Vietnam ended. They said no. Vanessa I twin. Have you seen King Pix's like, like, like, like alter ego of like the ghetto dude? He always goes I twin. And then. And then it has that. That logo. And then like the smoke detector beep in the background when it goes off. Dude, he's a funny man. Tom Wilson, C120, Massachusetts National Guard. Oh, okay. Is that where Tommy. Tell me that's where Tim's at. Not. Not B220, but C120. The. The old. The 20th group mafia. We can. We can infiltrate that Ladarius. Oh, yeah. Is that. Is that. Is that the twins name? I think so. They're better. Yeah, that's right. Masterson said there better be a hundred grenades in that book. For sure. Ev. I'm going over the top with it. Everything's bigger, better. 100 grenades.

[John]

So no, there I was. That's.

[Drew]

Oh, for sure. Just a. A Viking juggernaut of death.

[John]

I was riding a grizzly bear.

[Tyler]

An armored grizzly bear bear.

[John]

Armored grizzly bear.

[Drew]

The way Jesse Cinco is a former Delta Force guy who streams on Twitch would be cool to see him on an episode. I. I didn't know his name, but I have heard about the like the guy who streams on. On, on. On Twitch. Will you guys get Shrek on the show? Kyle, trust me, that would not go good. But you know, it'd be crazy is to invite him on the show, assuming that he knows nothing and then just pick them apart in person.

[Brent]

I think some of these guys are so ego driven that they wouldn't even. It wouldn't even.

[Drew]

They wouldn't even look into it. They just say yes just to get on another podcast. That's. Oh, that's a bold maneuver. These are ideas I have when I'm six Nick Ultras deep that I'm like, yeah, I'll do that. But that wouldn't be. Wouldn't be the worst idea. No be. Make good. Good for. Good for tv.

[Brent]

Yep. And we're gonna make awful ideas with the food we eat in the next.

[Drew]

John, your wife's hungry.

[John]

She's definitely.

[Drew]

She played. She paid plenty of money to let you know. So you. You better. You better go take care of that.

[John]

She may have paid again.

[Brent]

I don't know.

[John]

I see. I see her name up on top.

[Drew]

Guys, thanks so much for. For staying late. It went. It went long. There's still a thousand of you. Can't thank you guys enough. Another great Thursday night. I'll see you next Thursday night. Come with a bunch of founding father fun facts. That's what it's all about. Peace. Later.