Squadcast (Live) 07/10/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast – Squadcast (Live) 07/10/2025

Host: The Antihero Podcast
Release Date: July 11, 2025
Description: Part Delta Force. Part Street Cop. All Truth.

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Introduction

In this live episode of The Antihero Podcast, hosts Brent, Tyler, and Drew delve deep into recent controversies surrounding Tim Kennedy (referred to as "TK")—a figure with a purported military background and a growing presence in the public eye. The episode primarily focuses on TK's recent apology, allegations of stolen valor, and the ensuing fallout impacting his credibility and potential political aspirations.

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TK's Controversial Apology

The hosts begin by addressing a significant incident from the past week: TK released an apology that has since been scrutinized by various media outlets and listeners.

Drew (03:01):
"A podcast dropped right before Thanksgiving, and they went through my book and a ton of podcasts that I've been on. They made accusations that I embellished things."

Tyler (06:40):
"I want to take full and unequivocal responsibility for a serious mistake... I unintentionally misstated aspects of my military service."

The hosts critique the apology's sincerity and effectiveness, highlighting discrepancies between TK's statements and documented evidence.

Tyler (07:22):
"Can you imply something directly? Like directly. Like I directly said."
Brent (07:22):
"He shot a guy."

The discussion reveals that TK falsely claimed receiving a Bronze Star with a Valor device, a significant military honor.

Brent (08:36):
"So that's not a hard one to memorize."

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Media and Public Reaction

The hosts analyze the broader media response and public perception following TK's apology.

Tyler (10:02):
"Here's what. Here's where it gets crazy, too. I was young when I stepped into the public eye..."

They draw parallels between TK's apology and political figures who have faced similar credibility issues, emphasizing the inadequacy of partial apologies in restoring trust.

Tyler (14:26):
"He didn't suggest it. He said you had it."

Furthermore, they discuss the potential motivations behind TK's apology, suggesting it may have been a strategic move to mitigate legal repercussions rather than a genuine expression of remorse.

Tyler (13:28):
"If you think about it, if he takes like, full actual responsibility and said, I know I... I knew what I was doing, and I chose to do it anyway."
Brent (14:26):
"But he didn't suggest it. He said you had it."

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Impact on TK's Political Prospects

The conversation shifts to the implications of these revelations on TK's potential political career, expressing skepticism about his viability as a credible candidate.

Tyler (18:59):
"His DC time is done. Because I don't think a politician is going to touch him with a 10-foot pole now."

They argue that the accumulation of publicized discrepancies and dishonesty makes it unlikely for TK to regain political favor.

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Community and Support Dynamics

The hosts thank their listeners and supporters, acknowledging the role of their audience in uncovering and disseminating information about TK.

Tyler (58:08):
"We can prove that because you can go..."
Brent (60:56):
"But it's not plagiarism. That's what they look..."

They also discuss interactions with other veterans and supporters who have shared their experiences and insights, further solidifying the podcast's role as a platform for truth-telling and accountability within the veteran community.

Drew (84:35):
"You've got to do something about this."

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Conclusion and Future Directions

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the challenges of maintaining integrity and delivering honest content in a landscape rife with misinformation and personal vendettas.

Tyler (147:08):
"We have integrity. You have to abide by our integrity."

They express commitment to continuing their investigative efforts, aiming to hold public figures accountable and empower their listeners with the truth.

Brent (211:02):
"Sometimes there's no... It doesn't make you feel good to, to do the right thing..."

The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to stay vigilant, support the podcast, and engage in meaningful discourse to promote transparency and honesty.

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Notable Quotes

• Drew (03:01):
  "A podcast dropped right before Thanksgiving, and they went through my book and a ton of podcasts that I've been on. They made accusations that I embellished things."

• Tyler (06:40):
  "I want to take full and unequivocal responsibility for a serious mistake... I unintentionally misstated aspects of my military service."

• Tyler (13:28):
  "If you think about it, if he takes like, full actual responsibility and said, I know I... I knew what I was doing, and I chose to do it anyway."

• Tyler (18:59):
  "His DC time is done. Because I don't think a politician is going to touch him with a 10-foot pole now."

• Brent (211:02):
  "Sometimes there's no... It doesn't make you feel good to, to do the right thing..."

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Final Thoughts

This episode underscores the importance of accountability and transparency, especially for individuals who leverage military backgrounds for public influence. The Antihero Podcast continues to serve as a critical voice in uncovering truths and challenging narratives that compromise integrity and honor within the veteran community.

Transcript

[Brent]

Tony's before Tony's.

[Drew]

Tony's Bar.

[Tyler]

Maybe.

[Brent]

Also, we're live.

[Tyler]

And we're live.

[Brent]

We're alive. No, you're good, man. This is live. Rock it out.

[Drew]

Welcome to the Thursday night squadcast.

[Tyler]

Thursday nights for the boys.

[Brent]

We got a hell of a show. We're talking about TK's apology. And I got all kinds of gifts from our new friend. Stay tuned. Roll the intro just one F.

[Tyler]

Sam.

[Brent]

Oh, we're back. Are we back? Are we on? Yep, we're on. Whoa. Thursday night lives, man.

[Tyler]

Look at us.

[Brent]

Wow. What a week. What a week. A lot happened in one week.

[Tyler]

I'm. I'm not. What happened? The floods. The floods after the Epstein list. That's right.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And I think that's. That's. Yeah. Like you say, a busy week. Just only two things happen. The floods and apps, although they're big. And let's. We should talk about both those two things for. For the whole episode.

[Brent]

That sounds boring.

[Tyler]

Well, that's what happened this week.

[Brent]

Yeah. I can't think of anything else. Nothing else.

[Tyler]

I'm not aware of anything else that slowly.

[Brent]

You're right.

[Tyler]

Slow week. But we're gonna make it work. Because we're professionals.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Because we're professionals. We're gonna make it work. Even though I can't think of anything else that happened. I don't. I don't normally make videos. I don't. But I would like to give a world premiere of a video that I put together. And then that started out real strong and kind of faded there at the end, but, yeah, that's all I had.

[Brent]

Drew, we need fireworks.

[Tyler]

Can you. Can you send the video?

[Drew]

The Fourth of July. Oh.

[Tyler]

Oh.

[Drew]

One of these.

[Brent]

The Instagram.

[Tyler]

There you go. Right there.

[Drew]

All right, Give me a second.

[Brent]

I'm excited.

[Drew]

This guy down here?

[Tyler]

No.

[Drew]

So a podcast dropped right before Thanksgiving, and they went through my book and a ton of podcasts that I've been on. They made accusations that I embellished things.

[Tyler]

In the book to make myself look.

[Drew]

Bigger than I am and that I.

[Tyler]

Accused me of stolen valor. They accused me of stolen valor to. Will you remember me?

[Brent]

I've never said anything about having a.

[Tyler]

Purple Heart or a bronze star with a B device. You just. You. So. Oh, that's right. One other thing did happen this week. I just remembered because I made a video about it.

[Brent]

That was a good video. That was a good use of all those things.

[Tyler]

People said, wow. Oh, gosh.

[Brent]

I made it. And we posted the most significant part of that apology, which was we both. We were texting at the same time, and it both caught our eyes. What was it?

[Tyler]

So let's. Gosh.

[Brent]

He said I unintentionally misstated aspects of my military service. And that stuck out to me the most because it was 100 intentionally. And it wasn't just aspects of his military service. It was.

[Tyler]

I'm telling you, valor awards. He is. He is the gift that. Before I even start. Did you know he posted another, like, post on Instagram today and about him flying around like the floods of Texas, and the comment section is like, stop. Get off social media. Like, bro, six months, a month in anything. Take a break. Get. And he can't. He can't. Knee won't. He is addicted.

[Brent]

But yeah, it's a mental illness, I think at this point.

[Tyler]

So. And so he's the gift that keeps on giving. He won't go away as. As. As he should. And that is. That is going to be like the, like the next meme he's given us. Everyone. The next me.

[Brent]

Listen to your publicist him.

[Tyler]

Which. Which you. Which you just. Which you just read. I unintentionally missed. All right, let's. Let's start from the beginning. Just. It's just gold. It's gold. Do the whole thing. Part of it. I want to take full and unequivocal responsibility for a serious mistake. So comes out strong. Like, I want to take. I want to take complete and total responsibility. And when he read that, I was like, okay, all right. Like, it's over, you know, and then. But I don't know now. After I read the second part, then I had to question if Tim knows what full and unequivocal responsibility means because I made public statements and gave interviews in which I unintentionally misstepped. Misstated aspects of my military service. Did you unintentionally misstate. Did you unintentionally write a book? Is that what you did?

[Brent]

I woke up one day and I.

[Tyler]

Realized I'd written a book which funny enough, which I believe is called Marcus Luttrell syndrome. We just wake up and one day and someone wrote a book for you.

[Brent]

Somebody write that timestamp down.

[Tyler]

Even as I said that, I realized that one was so. It just. It's crazy and. But it gets better. Most notably implied. Directly or indirectly. So implied means something like you, like could be. Could be taken that way. Like I implied it.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Can you imply something directly? Like directly. Like I directly said. So there almost at odds what imply. Right. So I'm confused about what did you imply, directly or indirectly? That I have been awarded the bronze or valor. And this. But at least. And I'll give him credit here, for a second, he goes from incoherent. Well, at some point, shit, I gotta say it. Which is. That is not true. And there's. Most notably, there's no excuse. I never received that honor. And I deeply regret ever suggesting otherwise. You didn't suggest it. You said you had it.

[Brent]

He shot a guy.

[Tyler]

You. You said you had it.

[Drew]

They're just words.

[Tyler]

And that's. Yeah, you. Let me. Let me. Let me jog the memory. It says here you have a Bronze Star with V device. Is that true? Yep. Oh, man. How'd that happen? Well, there's a bag. There was this bad guy, and he was shooting at us, and. And I shot him first. And that's damn near verbatim.

[Brent]

Yeah. So that's not a hard one to memorize. Not.

[Tyler]

Not a hard one to memorize. Yeah. If this. Don't ask and memorize it. It's one, pretty crazy and two, pretty simple, so. No, you didn't just. You didn't just, like, you know, you suggest otherwise. You said you had one that kind. And then. So he's already flubbed this whole thing up. And this is like, where he goes into, like, the deep thing where, like, what he's. Like how he's sorry and how he feels. He goes into a really deep context. But, like, if you back up to the. What are you sorry for? Yeah, it's just a mess. It's an absolute mess. What are you sorry for, Tim? Well, I may have or may not have accidentally or unintentionally and unintentionally directly, but also indirectly, may have suggested inequivitably, whatever, but I'm taking full responsibility of something that I possibly might have. Could have perceived to do. Like what? That's a half joke. That's about how ridiculous the first part is.

[Drew]

He's getting ready for politics.

[Tyler]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Brent]

Word salad.

[Tyler]

It's. I haven't seen that. Did. Did Kamala Harris. Right.

[Drew]

I think he's going for Kamala Harris or something.

[Tyler]

The Kamala Harris is not a good look. It's not a good look.

[Drew]

It's just a little girl in California.

[Tyler]

Here's what. Here's where it gets crazy, too. I was young when I stepped into the public eye. And while I wasn't prepared for the scrutiny or pressure that came with it, that doesn't absolve me.

[Brent]

And I think that's legitimate. I would, if he started with that and said, I'm sorry for lying. I was an idiot. And when I was young, I entered the public eye. I wasn't ready for it. I could sleep. I would be like, okay. He explained why.

[Tyler]

All right, hold on.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Tyler]

He blames being young on making stupid mistakes that he wasn't ready for. Did he write this book in his 20s? He's 45, by the way. He's 45.

[Brent]

How long? Five years ago?

[Tyler]

About five years.

[Brent]

So four. He's still older than me when he wrote the book.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Did. Was. Was he. Was he 22 when he went on the Joe Rogan podcast?

[Brent]

Yes, you're right. How old, Tim?

[Tyler]

How old was he when he went on the Sean Ryan show and peddled the same lies when he went on Jocko?

[Brent]

Got their names wrong.

[Tyler]

And, yeah, all of these are in the last five years. He's. He's essentially 40 years old in all of these biggest mistakes on the biggest stage. How old was he when he went to Afghanistan and flubbed that whole thing up? Late 30s. That is way too old to be going, oh, man, I was. I was. I was young when I stepped into the public eye. What does that have anything to do with what. With what you've done in your 30s and late. Late 30s and 40s? It's just so. Which goes back to. I don't think you know what the word. Full and unequivocal responsibility. I still don't know what unequivocal means.

[Brent]

But it sounds good in word salad.

[Tyler]

It's. It's crazy. I think that was all. I mean, this. It's just.

[Brent]

And he's already got his Blue Check Mafia in there all in the comments. You're still a hero because he surrounds himself with non military personnel, especially non soft guys. So he's surrounded by UFC fighters, comedians, Joe Rogan style, Entourage people. And they immediately came out and went to bat for him. Brendan Schaub said, hey, you're finding out he's not Superman.

[Tyler]

He's still Batman.

[Brent]

You guys still badass.

[Tyler]

Like, so. So here's the other thing that kills me. The. The comment section is crazy. It's. It's like 80 of people not accepting his apology because basically he got backed into a corner. We put this thing out in Thanksgiving. 8. Eight months later, he gets backed into a corner with an investigation by Usasak. And I do know that his lawyers were on the phone with Usasak. How's that for. I don't know if anyone else has said that publicly. So here first and what irritates me about this. And I'm concerned because I don't have a lot of faith in User Sock. I just don't. If that somehow was the deal, like, hey, like, apologize, and we can figure out a way to make this go away. And maybe that's why he didn't. Because if you think about it, if he takes like, full. Actual, full responsibility and said, I know I. That's an integrity violation, which says, looks bad. I know that I. That I knew what I was doing, and I chose to do it anyway. So it's. Maybe it's a. It's a weird connection, but remember the. The Hillary issues when she had the server in her basement? Do you know why she was never prosecuted for that.

[Brent]

But she said, I didn't mean to. I didn't know.

[Tyler]

Exactly. And in a weird way, intense intent. Intent is what matters in the law of that. So if you intentionally do that, it's criminal activity. And if you don't know you did it, well, it's not criminal. So I'm afraid, and I hope not. I really hope not, that they're like, hey, as long as there's no intent. Intentional, you know, intent to lie behind it, we can. We can skirt around this.

[Brent]

Yep.

[Tyler]

And so even though he took full responsibility, he said nothing in there about. About. About lying, knowing what he was doing. So that's crazy. And the world's worst lawyer can. Can. Can take that apart, which is, oh, you. You ab. You accidentally misspoke. You didn't know that. That you were lying. Well, how about when someone said you have a bronze sour V? Yep.

[Brent]

Well, here's the thing is I. I was. I always get hung up on a tent too. And then somebody's like, well, when you're drinking and driving, did you mean to. Did you mean to do it? And if. Obviously everybody says no, it doesn't matter. There's no intent in some. In some crime.

[Tyler]

Correct.

[Brent]

There's no intense. Not needed. But in most crimes there.

[Tyler]

But I mean, yeah, I mean, it's. I mean, manslaughter and mur. A big difference. And what's the. Yeah, what's the difference in that? Yeah. Yeah. You didn't mean to. So. So that's. That's crazy to me. There's been a lot of people in those chats. Here's something else. Like what? Hey, guys, it's over. He said sorry. Well, we just. We just pulled. Pick that apart. Somebody said, did he say sorry? Because I'm pretty sure we just went by line. By line. He Didn't. What did he say sorry for? He did admit to not having a bronze hour of valor, which he didn't have to admit to that we showed the DD214 that. So thanks for saying what, what we all knew. But I will give you credit for at least, hey, he finally came out and said it. But when they're like, hey, he apologized, this is what kills me. You have been accused of so much more. Right. So if your kid, if your kid does 40 things wrong, like 40 blatant things wrong, and your kid comes back and says, hey, one of the things I did wrong was, you know, lie about what time I got home last night. And, and I take full responsibility. Either I didn't know what time it was and I may have gotten home or not have gotten home at that time. And then skips around the one apology but apologizes for it. No, we're not. Good. You have 39 other things. And I'm not sitting here saying. I'm not. I'm not sitting here saying. Although kind of like do you expect him, do you expect him to, to say sorry for every thing he is, he has said wrong? That's, that's, that's an honest question.

[Brent]

Me.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Do you expect him to say sorry for everything? Because if we're not sorry, if this isn't good enough because he didn't, because he only apologized for this, the other side of that is, is then what is good enough is does he have to mention everything he's lied about?

[Brent]

Man, I don't know. To me the valor thing was the most important. I think he knew that. That's why he gave this half assed workaround apology for that. And then you know, the obviously the other one's going to be the Afghanistan pull out that he still has not mentioned at all.

[Tyler]

That's because no one's pressed him on it yet. Yet, yet. Keep going yet. So no, I, and I don't know the answer to that. But I do know this like it's, there are some blatant ones that, that have to be addressed. You know, 400 Iranian fires crawling on the ground, scared for your life.

[Brent]

The plunging.

[Tyler]

Yeah. The sniping, you know, wounded and dead Taliban soldiers which were probably still Iranian fighters. That never happened. Sniping, 20 guys from a tower, being, being injured on several different occasions.

[Brent]

It's crazy. Is that even if you hit all those, no one would have the mental energy to go into the stuff before his military service that he lied about. I mean I know we used to have when we started this. We used to have cops and firefighters hitting us up saying, hey, I was a volunteer with Tim, let me tell you.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And, you know, and they don't hold really a candle to the severity of what we're bringing out now. But, yeah, he still lied about it.

[Tyler]

Yep. And so. But no, this is. This is not good enough. He. I do believe he tried to do the very, like, the bare minimum. But I'll tell you this. After showing all those. All those magazine articles that took and ran with the story today, Yahoo did it. Breitbart wrote a story about it. Every MMA outlet has written a story about it. I mean, it's. Business Insider wrote a story about it. Like, it has gone viral. At this point, I think he underestimated that. I didn't think he would. And at this point, I think. I think his DC time is done. Because I don't think a politician is going to touch him with a 10 foot pole now. Hopefully.

[Brent]

Hopefully.

[Tyler]

Hopefully. And maybe now that I'm thinking about it out loud, maybe that'll also pressure USASAK to go, hey, whatever deal we said we're gonna do, it's just too big. It's two cats out of the bag. It's too big. Like, we have to do something about this.

[Brent]

Alter those deals like Darth Vader. Right, Drew?

[Drew]

That's right.

[Brent]

Pray you don't alter it anymore. You guys want to do some super chats?

[Drew]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. How'd we get. How do we.

[Drew]

All right, I've got Nate from Valhalla gave us a trick to get some record super chats, but we missed the first one.

[Tyler]

The very first one.

[Brent]

The 200.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Brent]

Oh, I got it.

[Drew]

Oh, there it is. I think it is.

[Brent]

Wesley Pruitt.

[Drew]

Buenos, buenos. Not nachos, mis amigos. Ftk. I think it's time for the SF community to police its own ranks.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Thank you, Wesley. Absolutely. 100. Okay. I'm gonna bring this down for you guys so you can see. It's Nate.

[Brent]

Thanks, Nate.

[Drew]

All right. Which. He got this trick from Jameson.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Well, Jameson travels.

[Brent]

Thank you.

[Drew]

And Vanessa gave it to me. Vanessa gave me. Thank you, Vanessa. Make it happen, Nighthawk. Thank you, man. Marika. What up, fellas?

[Tyler]

Let's go.

[Drew]

Clark McDonald. TK eats boogers. Ditch by Lamb of God for outro song.

[Tyler]

I'm on it.

[Brent]

You got it.

[Tyler]

20 bucks.

[Drew]

Ditch by Lamb of God.

[Tyler]

Got it, dude.

[Drew]

Duder, when is your book from Double Wide? Delta Force? Delta Force Breast Tucker story coming out? Thursdays are for the boys love the show. I do like that.

[Tyler]

The double wide Delta Force. Yeah, man. That's a good one. Yeah. I don't know. We got. We got.

[Brent]

That's.

[Tyler]

That's half the battle, right? Yeah, dude.

[Drew]

Duder's good with words. Jim Lewis. TK apologized. Sort of. We can't expect too much out of that guy. It would have been better if he had stolen an apology. Oh, Vicious.

[Brent]

He's not wrong.

[Drew]

It's probably the best he could do. Mark 11:25.

[Tyler]

Would have been better if he just stole an apology. Damn. The super chats. They don't disappoint.

[Drew]

Rangers lead the way harder than we are.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Drew]

Everyday American. Epstein list.

[Tyler]

What?

[Drew]

Epstein list. There was an Epstein list. You guys are crazy. There was no list. The Fed said so. They can't lie to us. Impossible.

[Tyler]

I'll piss some people off here in a second when we get to that sometime.

[Drew]

Busby says sometime tonight. What is your thoughts on pat Mac?

[Tyler]

Pat McNamara, PMAC. He's. He's good, dude. I don't have an issue with him.

[Drew]

Nate Taylor, good evening. Bruce and Travis. Just wanted to give a proper shout out to the straw that stirs the drink.

[Tyler]

Drew, we love you, bud.

[Drew]

Thanks, Nate.

[Brent]

That sounded sexual.

[Tyler]

Keep your straw out of my drink.

[Drew]

Take what I can get. Jacob Schneider. Brent, is it true Rob saw your costume last week and since he killed Vidlad, he tried taking you out, but since he was in the Beta Seals and you were cag, you easily took him down?

[Tyler]

That is a true story. That was. That was on Patreon. The. The true story of how Rob o' Neal was in embarrassed by trying to sneak up on Adult Force Operator. We have the actual security footage of that happening.

[Drew]

Patreon true story stinks. You did look like bin Laden last week. No one saw it.

[Tyler]

No one saw another saw, but, man, the super chats, gosh, they. They were on it and they weren't wrong. As soon as I said it, I was like, yeah, yeah, you can't stop.

[Drew]

Seeing it once they say it. All right, have you guys seen Jason Redmond's response to TK's apology? Saying, It's a powerful and humble apology. Guy's an absolute shield.

[Tyler]

I'm. I'm sorry to hear that. I reached out to Jason after he did the podcast with Tim, and I let him know you know, the true story, because Tim was very half ass with. With what was going on, and Jay just was like, man, that's. That's crazy. I really. I feel. You know, I feel bad That I had him on my. On my show, and. And then he comes out and says. Says that. So I guess. I guess he didn't really read the apology then. But I. On one phone call, I do like Jason Redmond. He didn't. He didn't seem like a authentic guy, but people get duped. They do. Like, good guys get duped their own, too.

[Brent]

Now you're asking. I've said this from the beginning. It's never going to happen. None of these people are going to go out and say what we wanted them to originally because they're going to have to own up to, I got duped. I was made a fool of on my platform. They're never going to do it.

[Tyler]

And you guess one day we're going to have to do it. It's going to suck. Like, there's no way to have as many people on our show, and we have no vetting process other than googling, talking to people, seeing what other people say about them. It's. Well, so it's a. It's a light vetting process, but, I mean, someone could easily get bias. But when it happens, one day we'd have to come out here and be like, that sucks. They got us. But we'll do the right thing. We'll do the right thing. I know that.

[Brent]

Yeah, we will.

[Drew]

Jaker Schneider. Back end says hoover to move A. Brent said you were finally taking the fire exam. Like a man. How'd it go?

[Tyler]

Did not say that.

[Drew]

Also, Drew never stop. Rangers lead the way. Running like the wind.

[Tyler]

DW RLT to run like the wind.

[Drew]

Oh, running like the wind.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, that was. I think you guessed that last week or the week before. Yeah, you were like, what's RLTW stand for? Drew? You're like, running like the wind.

[Drew]

Oh, is that what it. Yeah, that's right. Oh, man. Jason got a really good memory. Dang. All right, Kendall, Tim Kennedy, Shrek, Rob o' Neal, and Marcus Luttrell should put on a fight to raise money for insert foundation. Then they should all pour out their lies on a pod together. Judai for the boys.

[Tyler]

That would be amazing that that would be the only true justice that could ever really come from this. But it won't happen.

[Drew]

They just do it for the clicks. All right, Tim should be the official spokesman of the P320.

[Tyler]

Because I just can't help but fire it off.

[Drew]

Just what I do.

[Tyler]

Yeah, just his mouth is a P320D.

[Drew]

Michael Brent, you're friends with DJ Shipley. Does he have any dirt On Red man, by chance, Redmond Red.

[Tyler]

I think he's just talking about red. Even, like, red squadrons. You know, they have that Red man patch, but the real shooter, ubl, is red. I mean, there's. There's no dirt on the guy. I haven't heard anyone ever say anything bad about that dude other than he is the true quiet professional that doesn't. Doesn't care for notoriety or to claim it, and that's how it's going to stay there. And they're adamant about that. And so far, they've been completely right.

[Drew]

Let's see. Brandon Bailey says his Wikipedia page has been altered to call him out for stolen valor. He still probably sucks donut from the back, as does Shrek and Rob o'. Neill.

[Tyler]

Okay. I had to, like, immediately try to get that, like, that visual out of my head as soon as, like. Yeah, that's why I go, okay. Eats a donut from the back. That's helping.

[Drew]

All right, let's see. TK Kills Stein with javelin. Tony. Probably not.

[Tyler]

Wrong.

[Drew]

Wrxes says. Brent, is it true that if you give David Hookstead info on the uvl he raid, he'll let you, I guess, do some plumbing job with his spouse? Asking for my friend.

[Tyler]

What?

[Brent]

I can't read that?

[Tyler]

No.

[Brent]

Were they. Were they. Were they on David?

[Tyler]

They better not be. David's a good dude, and he has fed us information and he has helped us out. I. I can't say enough good things about. About David Hookstead.

[Brent]

I know. And you know what he does is he stands up for what's right.

[Tyler]

And he does.

[Brent]

Does not chase the, you know, like, the. The opinion of everybody else. He stands up for what he believes in. So I. I really respect David.

[Tyler]

Yeah. He just needs to get his AC fixed.

[Brent]

Yes. Did he?

[Tyler]

He needs to. I don't think he has yet.

[Brent]

Poor guy.

[Tyler]

Come on, Dave. I guess some of that Fox money ran out.

[Drew]

All right, Danny. Blue collar says Drew, how do I reconcile killing with Ephesians, chapter 6 and 12? I believe that has something to do with. We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but by principalities and powers. And so context is everything. Anybody can make the Bible say what they want to when they just use a verse out of context. That's why we have all kinds of denominations and weirdos out there. So the context about we don't fight against flesh and blood is not speaking to military. It's not speaking to law enforcement. It's speaking to the Christian life. And that all of our challenges and difficulties have spiritual implications. And there's spiritual powers behind them. So there are other Bible verses that totally. Like Romans 13. Totally shows that God ordains government to kick people's butt. Whose butt needs to be kicked. All right, elephant hunter. 10 bucks, Tim Kennedy eats his Snickers bars upside down so he can feel the vein on his tongue.

[Brent]

I think we get that one every life.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And it's so good. It does actually. Doesn't get old.

[Brent]

I thought you were gonna say eating Snickers like that.

[Tyler]

No, that comment.

[Drew]

Yeah, I don't get it. I. I don't even remember reading that. Snicker bars upside down.

[Brent]

Yeah, because it's veiny. It's like a penis in your mouth.

[Drew]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh. Got him.

[Drew]

That's why I had no idea what it was talking about.

[Brent]

Hey, Drew, can you throw the Tasty Gains logo up in there?

[Drew]

Does a fat dog fart?

[Tyler]

Oh.

[Brent]

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[Tyler]

Do it.

[Brent]

That's it.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Brent]

Such a good spot.

[Tyler]

Let's talk about Tim just a second.

[Brent]

More, but on the media. Tasty game real quick. Yeah, you're good.

[Tyler]

Send one my way, too. The. Again, I don't. I don't reveal my sources usually unless. Unless they know. Unless I tell them I am. I don't say things when just, like, one person tells me, even if that one person is, like, a really, really good, like, trusted person. It usually takes. Usually, I should say takes several people telling me this, and I feel comfortable enough because several people have told me this is that here's the worst part about his apology. He didn't want to do it.

[Brent]

No way.

[Tyler]

He didn't want to do it. And he still thinks he's a victim, and he's still upset about it, and he still thinks, if I'm paraphrasing, that if people, like, really knew the truth and he could disclose all his secret operations that he'll. He'll. He would be Vindicated. And he still thinks he will be vindicated. Which, when I first heard that first her, I was like, that's kind of crazy. And the second time, like, well, that's. Heard it. Heard it again. And then when you hear those things and you look at his Instagram like, he posted again today, I'm like, okay, that. That actually makes sense.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Brent]

He doesn't want to.

[Tyler]

Because if, if he really was sorry, one, he, he'd have stole a better apology. Yeah. And two, he would. He'd take some time for some self reflection and he'd go away and be like, you know what? Damn, I've. I effed up. Like, I need. I need to just go fix things and just look internal. Which is why I would suggest that. That he does. I really do.

[Brent]

You could just go away for six months and the entertainment field, you're good. You could come back and Everybody's already had 80 different topics that they talked about and be good to go.

[Tyler]

And because I didn't hear that with my own ears, I'll still continue to go. So if that's true, like, that's. That the. The post makes sense. Like, he cannot. He's. What? Like, what if he. If he's not truly sorry and he got pressured into this, why wouldn't you just go right back out and do. And do some look at me. Photos of the Texas flooding? Because that guy never lets a disaster go go unnoticed. That. That he was there. So that makes complete sense.

[Brent]

Yeah. And to be honest with you, man, I. I'm not just saying it because it's our podcast. The best avenue for him to go would become sit down with us in a controlled conversation where he got to save some face. I really. I. We wouldn't be rude to him. We wouldn't be mean to him. We would just ask him this thing. Why did you say what you said about this?

[Tyler]

That's right. You know what? I. I think, I think that's how I'd handle it. What I would do. I wouldn't. I think. I'm not looking to. To just demoralize the man. Like, I. I wouldn't do that and go line up every single lie and just go through and make him answer that. I think that's too much. I do. I'd probably. We'd probably sit down, focus on the top 10. And that's. That's like. That's like 3% of his. Of his big lies. The top 10. I thought it was pretty good.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

It's like, hey, like, this is going to hurt a little bit. But yeah, we're. But you know, this will be somewhat of a softball interview. We're just going to ask you, hey, what. What really happened here? And your answer is. Your answer. Like I might ask you a follow up, but I'm not just going to drill down and press and press. And that's. I think that's how. What I would do. I do. Drew, we got about, I don't know, a thousand more people than before at some point. Let's play that other video again. It's only like 40 seconds.

[Drew]

This gun. This one again.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I want everyone to see it because I love it.

[Drew]

Yeah. Because some people came in late.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So a podcast dropped right before Thanksgiving and they went through my book and a ton of podcasts that I've been on. They made accusations that I embellished things.

[Tyler]

In the book to make myself look.

[Drew]

Bigger than I am. And they accused me of stolen valor.

[Tyler]

They accused me of stolen valor.

[Brent]

I've never said anything about having a.

[Tyler]

Purple heart or a bronze star with the B device.

[Drew]

You just, you. So a podcast dropped. They went through.

[Tyler]

We'll start. We'll start it with the over 9 o'. Clock.

[Drew]

My bad, guys. My bad. That's my bad.

[Tyler]

We started the episode with. With no issues. And I was like, Drew's got it. Look at us. Like we finally got it all together. Looking like a professional well oiled machine.

[Drew]

We don't disappoint. We're the podcast you expect at this.

[Brent]

Point it would be disappointing if we got everything.

[Drew]

We're just normal dudes like you guys. We're just normal screw ups. Like all the normal screws.

[Brent]

The fact that we're able to do this every Thursday. I remember when we started this, it was nightmare after nightmare.

[Tyler]

Like I'll be hours. I'll be honest. Like, and this is part of like just me having to come down a little bit. Like just used to the Delta Force. Like one of the well oiled machine. Like everything like has to be right. Like everything has to work. You know, I'm still. I know not everyone's perfect. So it's not like every single thing would set me off. But it's like sometimes like, come on, man, we've got to be better than this. And then maybe it was Drew or you. And at some point was like, if we were perfect, then maybe it was Drew. Anyway, basically said like, then we're like, I hope we're never perfect because that, that means. Oh, it's just like that means I wouldn't Be here. Yeah, that's right. You know, I was like, yeah. You know, like, let's not take this too serious. You know, we're just three guys doing the best that we can.

[Brent]

Yeah. And we're doing good.

[Tyler]

And we are doing good.

[Brent]

And we learned a lot of skills.

[Tyler]

Last two years for sure.

[Brent]

Where we came from with three shitty.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. And you're right. That's the other thing that I had to think about.

[Brent]

The audio thing kept losing battery.

[Tyler]

We always had to watch and see if the phones. The phones would randomly die.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, One time they kept dying. Two interviews in a row. And Brent goes, do you charge? Do you plug the cameras in? I was like, no. So I'm like, hopefully they just last we started plugging our cameras in. Stupid.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

We're just a YouTube video away from being smart. All right, JT.

[Brent]

No, no.

[Drew]

This dude Duder back in. Interviewed a USMC Vietnam vet who was on the ground during operation Utah in 1966. Not as easy as it looks like on all the podcast. Props to you guys.

[Tyler]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Drew]

We've got. Jt. Do you think Sean Ryan will put his TK episode?

[Brent]

What Will he what?

[Tyler]

So I don't know if you noticed. I gotta go look at it, but there is now a statement on. On that episode. It. Maybe it's like, where you, like, do the more section where it describes it, or maybe it's on the episode itself, but it says, like, parts of this episode have been verified to be not the truth. Like, I'm. I'm. I'm doing a poor job of explaining it, but someone sent me a screenshot of it, so I know it's there. And while, like, maybe during the break, I'll go pull it up, but. So he's at least acknowledged it. And I will probably ask. There will be more for. For those who just joined in since the first time we played that video. When we play the video again after the break, you'll see the rest of the video and the ending of it. There is. There's more to this story. And after our next podcast on him breaks, will I will. I will push Sean a little harder and be like, Sean, come on, man.

[Brent]

Sean states. Or his team, whoever, states. While we strive for accuracy, some statements made by our guests may later be found to be verifiably false. We encourage listeners to critically evaluate the content and conduct their own. Conduct their own research on the topics discussed. See, I disagree with that. If I'm sitting here getting my research from you, I'm not going to sit there, watch it and go now I'm going to go verify that because I don't have the hookups that you have.

[Tyler]

I'm not looking for like an all out rebellion and I don't want anyone to be disrespectful. Like I, I really don't. But there is like a power of the people. There's almost 3,000 people watching this right now. There will be 30 to 40,000 people that, that watch it within, within a week. Please, I'm asking you respectfully, go to these places and leave comments and let them know how disappointed you are. Jocko. I actually don't have as big as a problem with Jocko as a lot of people have. I don't really have a problem with Jocko. Like I, I really don't. But he has an episode with Tim Kennedy still and he's reading from his book. Jocko, you were Navy seal. You know better than this. Pull the episode Sean Ryan. And I'm again, go to that episode. Leave tons of comments. Please be respectful. It's not, it's not a Sean thing. Don't be disrespectful to them, but let them know and ask them, hey, pull this down. The third thing I would ask is go to Instagram all these, all, all you guys see all this in social media, tag usasocsm, tag usasak in all these live videos and Tim videos and say useasock, where is your integrity? What are you going to do about this? And I'm telling with this many people right here, if 3,000 people went left, 3,000 comments tagging USASAK CSM telling Jocko, hey, what happened to extreme ownership? Sean, please, you know, respectfully, you were duped. You're great but you know this needs to be pulled down. Everyone watching this live right now could, could move the needle on all that.

[Brent]

Heather just texted me with, she circled somebody didn't pay for it, but they said this morning Dan from Drinking Brew said you guys are acting like women. Did you see the clip?

[Tyler]

Well, they blocked us, so it's hard.

[Brent]

Yeah, they blocked us. We can't unibridge. I cannot say that word. But if you could email us the clip or email us a timestamp to the antihero podcast gmail.com I'll try and pull it up during this live. If anybody watches drinking Bros and can't find the time stamp when they talk shit about us. But they probably didn't even mention us because none of them do fighter and the kid doesn't mention us. Drinking Bros. Doesn't mention us.

[Tyler]

There's another thing. Go to. I hate to support those guys, but go to Drinking Bros and ask them and say, hey, you guys defended Rob o' Neill and Tim Kennedy.

[Brent]

He got his own show on their network.

[Tyler]

Say. Say something about it. I'm just. Yeah. I mean, all you guys watch are you watch this and you consume it because it's true. Everything we've said. Not a single thing has ever been debunked. Like, you guys could be a force and for change. They listen to the viewership. They really do. I have a. That being said, I have to say this because it bugs me. I was watching some. As I was doing my research for the Afghanistan evacuation. I was watching some more Tim Kennedy podcast. It's. It's. I should have put some sort of counter of how many hours I've seen this guy talk on podcasts. It's crazy. Anyway, I ran across one that says. And he's saying how much he loves the First Amendment. He's like, the First Amendment has to be protected. He's like, I'm a big advocate of the First Amendment. He goes, and the biggest thing about the First Amendment is it's not just so you can hear people agree with you. He goes, it's so you can hear people who don't agree with you. He goes, I want to hear an opposing opinion. I want to. I want people to disagree with me because that's the First Amendment. Find anything ironic about that statement?

[Brent]

That he doesn't want any of that.

[Tyler]

Are we blocked from his account?

[Brent]

Yes.

[Tyler]

I guess he doesn't like the First Amendment. Is Valhalla blocked from his account?

[Brent]

I think so.

[Tyler]

Is basically. Go look at his account when he first posts things. Wake up so you can't stand up. I'm kidding. I'm just kidding. Scared.

[Brent]

Drew, man. He was a guy.

[Tyler]

We didn't yawn. He's doing the other head. No.

[Brent]

It's like a ghost dick over there.

[Tyler]

That was a dick move. That was a dick move. We got white boxes in there. Anyway.

[Drew]

You scared me so much. I thought I was falling asleep.

[Tyler]

Was I sleeping? I completely forgot what I was talking about. I was on a rant too.

[Brent]

First Amendment. TK's.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

It blocks everybody.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I let a joke completely get in the way of. Of myself.

[Brent]

People would say that they commented on TK's post and that he goes and blocks them.

[Tyler]

Yeah. He. He. He deletes all negative comments and then he immediately blocks those accounts.

[Brent]

So.

[Tyler]

Which is crazy because if you go to his apology video, there's that many negative comments on there. So there's that many people. He hasn't got around to blocking and deleting comments, but he will at some point. They will clean up that. That apology, and you will not see negative comments on it, and everyone will be blocked. How's that for free speech? Yeah, good one, Timmy.

[Brent]

Very free.

[Tyler]

Not very free.

[Brent]

All right, super chats.

[Drew]

Super chats. Champ Champion says, love the in Glock, we trust shirt. Things aren't looking so hot for these sigas. Maybe they should. Maybe they should sponsor TK since they share values.

[Tyler]

What?

[Brent]

Has any of his sponsors that. That still. That he still claims that they are said anything?

[Tyler]

No, there's one. I don't know why they irritate me so. Well, I know why they irritate me so much because someone said they got a response from, and they're like, we don't care. We, the people, holsters. Unapologetically stand by Tim's side. Just. What's that? No, no, don't say it into the mic. Just tell me really loud.

[Drew]

They need them. Like, they get him with the knee.

[Tyler]

They need them. Yeah, like, they. They need to have him. They need negative.

[Drew]

I mean, it's getting too big.

[Tyler]

They're getting too big. They're getting too many orders. Like, we gotta slow down the orders production here, guys.

[Brent]

Yeah, I do not think that's a good tactic right now.

[Tyler]

Oh, speaking of deleted comments, just real quick, because I see it every now and again on our YouTube page. I don't know what YouTube does. I'm telling you, YouTube comments, some of them, for no rhyme or reason, disappear. My comments have disappeared. Really? And I'd love to. And I always forget the. I always kind of want to address. I forget it's a. It's an obvious answer because. I know, but have you ever and maybe ever deleted a comment on our Instagram or our YouTube or in any social media? No, I never read them, but, yeah, I've never. And. And we can prove that because you can go. And there's. There's. There's a ton of negative comments.

[Brent]

Yeah, there is. And there was. And we knew this because an audio engineer actually commented on our video and gave us some tips on what to do in the studio. And me and Brent were sitting there. We both saw this comment. We came into the studio, and we were going to reference it, and it was gone. We Both scrolled through 150 comments. It was gone.

[Tyler]

So, yeah, so we like the First Amendment.

[Brent]

Yeah, we like we're American.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we're constitutionalist over here. What else you got, Drew?

[Drew]

You guys have the worst timing. Let's see if I can find them again. Fun, fan, fun.

[Brent]

I tried tagging you to stock command Sergeant Major, but won't post anywhere. She must have turned them off.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah. Or. Yeah. Or don't just tag her. Go to her post and. And make. Leave. Leave comments.

[Brent]

Hey, Brent, any chance Tate or Xavier would come on and tell their story? I know you had one of them on, but wasn't about his story.

[Tyler]

I'm hoping. Tate's got some big things in the works still on the military side. So we're waiting for. For the dust to settle on that. And I believe Tate will be on here and be able to tell his story. It's a pretty big deal, so he'll kind of have to tell. It'll be. It'll be. It's one of those awards that are so big, like, you should tell your story. And Xavier. Xavier was on my team. Xavier's a. Xavier is a good dude. Xavier Landoff. I. I need. I need to reach out to him. Just say hi, get back in, touch him. I'd love to have Xavier on. I know he's out, retired now doing good things. He does a lot of stuff with long distance shooting and who knows what else. I'd love to have him on the show for him to catch us. Catch us up on what he's up to.

[Brent]

Right on. You caught up here?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

David Ziegler says, fellas, would you be interested in starting a new political party with me called the Tar and Feather Party? You can make some sweet merch.

[Tyler]

You see Elon talking about, hey, is it. Is it finally time for a third political party?

[Drew]

Yeah, I heard about the third.

[Brent]

The third.

[Tyler]

I was. No, no, just a third political party. It doesn't have to be to the. It doesn't have to be to the left or to the right.

[Drew]

Those are very offensive.

[Brent]

Man, we're on fire.

[Tyler]

I got. I know it's gonna sound weird. Don't, don't, don't you clip it in the middle. I. That was. That was fresh my mind, because I've been thinking about Nazis lately, and I. I got enthralled in some general patent history, and I just went from video to video to video, and I read a book by. Called Killing Patton from Bill O'Reilly years ago.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah?

[Tyler]

Yeah. And I knew how great, you know, Patton was. But then, of course, like, when you see other things and other insights, I'm like, Maybe one of the next history episodes we do is Patton, because he's. He's worth. And it'd be right up your alley, too, because there's some controversy about how he died. So. Be a really cool episode to do. Yeah.

[Drew]

Jonathan. Val says, up, guys. Tyler, I sent you a question on last week's stream. Then I realized you weren't even on the stream. I was hoping.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You had some questions at some point. I was like, who. Who do they think is. Is in Tyler's seat right now?

[Drew]

Yeah. And they. Yeah. He says, I was hoping my question would have been skipped to avoid the embarrassment, but it wasn't. You send them, Reread them. All right. If we can find them. Previously temp says, Tim Kennedy eats bananas for the shape, not the taste.

[Brent]

That's another one that's always in there.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And always a good one.

[Drew]

Michael Wheeler says, have you guys seen the Fighter and the Kid? Podcast comments on TK Subject. Got here late. Sorry if it's already been answered.

[Brent]

No. Yeah. They. I don't know.

[Tyler]

Trying to remember which one that is.

[Brent]

It's Brendan Schaub and Callan. Brian Callan. Brian Cowan's a comedian.

[Tyler]

Let's fight him. The kid. Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. And they went. They.

[Tyler]

Today.

[Brent]

They. I mean, it's like I said with these blue chalk check mafia guys. They're all financially tied to Tim Kennedy or network with Tim Kennedy. And so, of course, they had an episode coming out. And I'm sure. I'm sure I shouldn't say I'm sure. I believe that Tim was like, hey, can you talk about my apology? And then boost it at the very end. And they said. They started with saying, like, hey, yes, you. He has to be right with this. He has to make amends. He. He said some wrong things, and he has to hit it head on. And then they started going, but he's still a hero. He's still this. You know, how are you still a hero?

[Tyler]

What? This isn't. This is an honest question. What has. And this isn't. Just like, this is. This isn't Tim Kennedy bashing. This is an honest question. Please, anyone that's. That's a fan or just wants to hear our side and just. But still loves Tim. That's an honest question to you. How is Tim Kennedy still a hero?

[Brent]

I don't know.

[Drew]

Everyone has.

[Brent]

He. That's not true.

[Tyler]

That is not true. Everyone who served is. Is not a hero. I hate to say that. Like, just because you did your job doesn't make you a hero.

[Brent]

Yeah. And People that you would consider heroes don't want to be called heroes. The ones that didn't do heroic stuff.

[Tyler]

What's. This is. This is a really weird thing to say, but. On. What was that cartoon? Megamind. Okay, laugh at me now, but hold on, I'm getting somewhere with it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. When the bad guy in there basically, like, wants to make everyone super and he's like. And when everybody's super, nobody's super.

[Drew]

That was the Incredibles.

[Tyler]

Oh, gosh. It was Incredibles. Yeah. It wasn't Mega mine.

[Drew]

That's a great line, though.

[Tyler]

Dang it. Can we edit that out? Is it too late?

[Brent]

I'm gonna black everybody.

[Tyler]

Do it. We need like a third. We need like a 30 second rewind button when I say stupid things. But anyway, when everyone's incredible, no one's. But that's my point is that's why the word hero can't be thrown around like that. When everyone's a hero, no one's a hero. So you can't throw the word around like everyone who serves a hero. No, because we have actual heroes that served.

[Drew]

Yeah, my kids say I'm a hero. Brent.

[Brent]

I. I hear Nickelback.

[Tyler]

Subjective. It's subjective.

[Drew]

Different levels of hero, I guess. Caleb. Caleb says, can't stay for long, but I can stay long enough to contribute beer money. Congrats on the win, guys.

[Brent]

Thank you.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Drew]

Thank you, Caleb. Joshua Snodgrass. Only way Tim can redeem himself is release the Epstein files. Ken says the only TK I know is Toby Keith. Tell the other guy to change his initials. Like it. Agent 17 thoughts on Nate's Vid today saying he's done and dropping it sub Nate. Also, someone on TK's Insta apology said you must be friends with Liver King.

[Tyler]

I saw that. In fact, I know at some point she's listening, and I hope she still is. The. The author of the Business Insider article. Oh, yeah, Kelsey, it. It came out. It did a. She did a great job. She did a great job on. On her article. It got picked up by. By Yahoo News, so Yahoo News ran with it as well. And, you know, she. She gave us credit for, you know, the. The work we did. And I just wanted to tell her, you know, thank you. Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for. For writing a. Yeah, we were complaining a little bit. It just took a while. It just took a while. But we basically kind of complained, like, hey, like, no one's running with it. This is a huge story and no one's running with it. And she ran with this story before the apology. And it's really easy to run with the apology story, you know, when it comes out. Yeah. Now she got to reference the apology because it looks like it kind of like slid in at the very end. And I'm sure she did some last minute editor. Yeah. Editor stuff. Yeah. But she reached out to us months ago and she finally got it across the finish line. That's a, that's a big deal when. I don't know what, what got them on this, but when a business insider is, is looking into this and, and she hears the whole thing and decides to write a story about it, that's just good investigative journalism. Like, she heard the story, she looked into it, she made all the right calls, and then proof is in the pudding with the, the article she, she put out.

[Brent]

No, I'm sure. I think we're being deliberately ignored by maybe not Barstool sports. I tagged them. I hidden tag them in a lot of things. And if we had 3,000 people comment that your, your, your new first responder veteran podcast needs to be the anti hero podcast, I think they might listen. So.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right, we got 3,000 people in the chats tonight. Pie Kramer says 20 bucks. Thank you very much. Deacon, your mouth says TK sucks donut for bus fare and then walks to his destination. Almost 50 years on the planet, never heard it that way. Christian Jones, now TK is in Texas flying around the flood zone.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Josh Hendricks, real quick on that. This is what I wish Tim would say, and if he would just. Again, it just goes back to being honest. If you'd be honest about this and be like, hey, I'm going to Texas, the flood zone. Because the truth is I have a lot of followers and I'm trying to bring awareness to what's going on.

[Brent]

My cause.

[Tyler]

That's my cause. And in a weird way like that, awareness does mean something. Like there will be, there will be a ton of people that know about it just because Tim is there.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

But the problem is he goes there and tells me, like, how he's a hero and how he has to, he has to be this person that he's lied about and built himself up to be, that he's out there rescuing people. Just be the guy that brings awareness because that's, that's, that's all you do. And that's. And that's who you are. You're the guy that brings awareness and someone has to do that. So that's your new role. Be the awareness guy.

[Brent]

I wonder if this video get pulled down like Corey Mills did. Well, it's not in politics yet.

[Tyler]

Yeah, well, I. I think I do. I don't. I don't think politicians will touch him after this. I mean, they gotta. They gotta cover their own ass. Like, he's. He's toxic to him now because of the amount of articles that. That were. That were written about it. There's no way they don't know.

[Drew]

Well, if he switches the aisle, they'll take anybody. Let's see. Josh Hendricks says Hoover. Was there ever a person you had to arrest that you didn't want to because they did something funny or stupid? Also, when I read TK Apology was fake. Hashtag taint out for Brent.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Brent]

I mean, yeah. Arrest. No. So not so much. I can't think of an arrest. Maybe removing somebody from, like, an event or something because it's private property, and at any point, any. A football game, a concert, they can have you removed. And it's. And it's. It's not negotiable, and it's not on. It's not my call. So I think, like, removing people from public events because they did something funny, and I thought it was hilarious, but, you know, But I don't think I've arrested anybody that did something funny that I didn't want to have arrested people that I didn't feel had bad intentions in their heart, but there's just nothing I can do about it. And so, yeah, I don't want to.

[Tyler]

Get too far behind, but I want to keep on interjecting a few small things. No, I always joke around, like, no good deed goes unpunished. But I did a. Like a call in to Wisconsin University and talk to their. One of their classes, one of our listeners who's a professor there. Mike asked if I would even asked to pay me. And I was like, no, I'll just. I'll just do it. And it was. It was really good. But anyway, someone told Nate. Nate told me. And I saw other people like, oh, this is. This is. AI wrote that apology. AI wrote that apology. And I got to thinking. I was like, well, Mike's a professor at a university. Like, they have the software to put it in their machine, if you will, under their program and see if it's AI generated. So I reached out to Mike. I said, mike, can you throw this into your. Into your program?

[Brent]

AI Something.

[Tyler]

Yeah. He even showed me, like, the. Like the. The. The. How it's done. But, yeah, they. They. AI could recognize how AI puts things together.

[Brent]

AI knows AI.

[Tyler]

Yeah, exactly. AI knows AI. And so I asked him to throw this in and. And he did. And his. It. It came back with here real quick. I probably should have thrown the screenshot in there, but that it is almost 70% AI generated according to this, which means it is likely AI generated with. With some human input. And at the end of the day, he. He would not be able to accept this as. As work as a university professor.

[Brent]

Plagiarism. That's what they look.

[Tyler]

It's not that it's plagiarism. And that's.

[Brent]

So the professors, they use it for plagiarism. Right.

[Tyler]

But it's not just plagiarism because. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, like, like when you write a report, that's kind of what you're doing. Like, you're plagiarizing. You know, the facts here and there. But I'm. It. It can tell the way it structures a sentence and, And. And the way it talks and what it uses. Even if it isn't plagiarism, it knows that it was written by AI. That's right, that you didn't write it. So how's. How's that for a little.

[Brent]

Just a little fun Fact Stole his apology from AI.

[Drew]

Plagiarism would be stolen. Scholar.

[Brent]

Shut up, Drew.

[Drew]

Brady Pearson says. What's up, boys? I know in some SOF communities, there is a big watch culture. Brent. I love watches. Brent, did you experience any of that in group or the unit? Shout out to Drew for all the work he puts into this show.

[Tyler]

Yeah, there is a big watch culture. I don't. I don't know what it is. There's. There's a. And. And I still. I'm. I'm one of those guys. I just don't buy a lot of things for myself, basically, because. Because I'm. I can't afford it. But I do. Like when I go to a mall or like, go to, like, if I pass by a jewelry store, whatever it is, like, I'll stop and look at all the watches.

[Brent]

Now, is a watch something that has to be like, do you feel if you're gonna wear a watch, it's gotta be expensive? Like, you wouldn't go look for a cheap.

[Tyler]

No, they're.

[Brent]

They look cool.

[Tyler]

But there are like, I have a diesel watch. It's like $300 watch. I mean, it's expensive to me, but in the watch community, that's nothing, you know? But yeah, watch community. Yeah. But like, I've seen some watches that. That kind of look like that watch, it was like $30,000. And I'm like, I, I wouldn't buy that. If I had the money, I wouldn't buy that watch. But, yeah, he's absolutely right. But I am. I'm a massive fan of watches. And I don't even know why. I'm not even wearing a. I don't wear watches.

[Brent]

Do you like Apple watches?

[Tyler]

I do. The. I do. And it is really cool because my phone's always in my pocket. So, like, my biggest fan of the Apple watch was to feel my phone vibrate and just look at it, be like, okay, not important. Yeah, that's what you were doing to me. It's, it's, it's. It's the battery life.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Tyler]

You have to charge it every night. And I'm really bad at charging things.

[Drew]

All right, There's a. Derek says long time. Derek Hofert. I know. They want me to read all the names. Longtime listener, first time catching it live with the boys. My dad and I have always been inspired by Marcus Luttrell story. A lot of us have been inspired by this story. I was angry and showed him the episode about him. He was livid. And now a fan of the show.

[Tyler]

Well, thank you. But again, we're all inspired by the story that's told. That's right. It doesn't matter how many times we say it. People say what they want to say. Don't be mad at the seals because a few bad ones. The seals are a great community. Don't. Don't be mad at veterans. Don't be mad at people who write books. There's only, there's only a few.

[Brent]

Hey, we gotta hit up our sponsors and take our break at our 60 minute mark. We're actually six minutes over, but can you throw up flatline real quick?

[Tyler]

Do it.

[Brent]

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[Tyler]

I. I am a. A sling snob. Like slings matter. I think that's like a, an overlook name on there. It is a good. A sling stop. Yeah, Well, I think, I think their logo, I think their, their name is good and it's, it's this thing I have in my gun. I like them. Yeah, I do. I wouldn't put it on my gun if I didn't like it. I don't have to.

[Drew]

All right, boys, we're going to break.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

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[Brent]

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[Tyler]

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[Brent]

Are we on?

[Drew]

I think Brent's sitting the pee. Oh, there he is.

[Brent]

Man, you drank two Michelos. You don't have to pee yet. You must be dehydrated.

[Tyler]

I might be. I was at a water. I was at a water park with my son. All day. I might be, actually. Yeah. Drew.

[Drew]

Yo.

[Tyler]

See if we can open up.

[Drew]

All right. Let's do this again.

[Tyler]

Second half like we did the first half. Okay.

[Drew]

So a podcast dropped right before Thanksgiving, and they went through my book and a ton of podcasts that I've been on. They made accusations that I embellished things.

[Tyler]

In the book to make myself look.

[Drew]

Bigger than I am and that I.

[Tyler]

They accused me of stolen valor. They accused me of stolen valor. Will you remember me?

[Brent]

I've never said anything about having a.

[Tyler]

Purple heart or a bronze star with a B device. You just. You. The ending cracks me up. This is horrible because I made it so.

[Drew]

So that was directly to you, Brent.

[Tyler]

It was to me. I.

[Drew]

And Tyler.

[Tyler]

Yeah. We got no apology. We got no apology. Like, if you. If you really think about that, like.

[Brent]

That was such a tantrum. You.

[Tyler]

You Such. Some. Such unjustified outrage.

[Brent]

He's mad that it happened to him. He's not mad that he did it.

[Tyler]

That's right. If. And. And I mean, let's be honest. That's. Again, I feel like. I feel like he's. I feel like he's a kid and like. And like the anti hero podcast is his dad. Like, you're only mad. You're only mad because you got caught. This is. This is. This is an honest question. Drew, pull. Pull the chat.

[Brent]

Oh, God, poor Drew.

[Drew]

Hold a chat.

[Tyler]

Can you do that still?

[Drew]

Well, with all the new stuff with the. With this new thing here, I can't go to, like, normal chat crap real fast, but I'll try it. What do you want?

[Tyler]

All right, so we can do. I want. I. I want to pull the chat. Did. Did. Yes or no. Did Tim Kennedy apologize only because he was caught? That's a good poll. Because it's 98. It's a good poll. It's an honest question.

[Brent]

Some of our listeners might be biased.

[Tyler]

Do you think he only apologized because he was caught? And here's the. I guess, follow up question to that is, is, does everyone here have kids?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Everyone but you. I don't have kids. All right. Were you trying for some butt babies or what's.

[Drew]

What's.

[Tyler]

What's the deal with that? I like financial stability. Nice. Okay, then you made the right call.

[Brent]

Fair enough.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

It's just because no one would sleep with you, isn't it?

[Tyler]

I stole butt babies from. From Nate because he. Because he accused me of being one. Like, And. But here's the honest one. If your kid apologizes only because he was caught, is it an apology?

[Brent]

No, they're apologizing because they have to. They're forced to.

[Drew]

Okay, the poll is up. We already have 260 votes. Geez, you guys don't mess around.

[Tyler]

They don't.

[Brent]

Stupid song stuck in my head.

[Tyler]

I. You know, because you make most of the. But 99 of all. Of all the. The shorts and. And clips around here, so. You know how many times I had to listen that stupid song as I was like, editing it and getting it right. It's been in my head all day.

[Brent]

There's songs I loved and I thought were awesome. By the time I was done with the reel, I can't listen to them anymore.

[Tyler]

All right, Drew, what do we got?

[Drew]

All right. Because I had to move to that other thing, so I got to find out where I was last.

[Tyler]

Okay, that's right. You. You keep finding it. And. And I got. I. Some more. There's generally honest questions. Do you think, like, there's an issue of sorts, like, with. With Sheepdog response and. And. But let me be like, completely fair in this question. Like, he. He was a Green beret. He did deploy. He did go to. To Sodic, and he did go to Sephardic, so he's qualified. But if people are coming to your course because they think you're a hero, because they think you're valorous, but because they think you have put this instruction actually to use, because they think you've actually saved people, deployed 17 times, because they think you've deployed the combat 20 times. His words, not mine. Like, is sheepdog response? Does he owe people that signed up to his. To. To his courses an apology? Yeah, and that's. And that's. That's. That's. In a way, that's an honest question. Because I can. I can play both sides of that.

[Brent]

Yeah, I. I think so. Because, you know, they might have learned the skills, and that's great. And, you know, and. And he's. He's a very skilled shooter. He's a very skilled fighter. He's very skilled in scenario based things. But at the end of the day, the reason why people went to it was because of his resume that they thought was his.

[Tyler]

I. I say this all the time when. When. When I train SWAT teams. My background is great, but it's my experience is what. Is what I get like to bring to the table. You know, I can actually tell you if you just were taught it in the school and learned it, you. You. You can only. You can only show the. How to do it. But if you've actually done this in combat, you've actually done this for real life. I. I get the added benefit of saying the why, like this is why you do it. And I can look people in the eyes and say what I'm teaching you right now. I actually did, and I. And I know it works like it. Or at least it worked for me in this instance. Yeah. So when you're lying about that. It. It. As an instructor, it really diminishes your. Your authority. It does, yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. I mean, nobody wants to be taught by the guy who's never been in the field, right?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

That's why no one's asking me to be trained to train them. All right. Victor, Our buddy. Victor, man. Good to see you, buddy. Here's little donations for the free pack of sample cigars. Thanks. All right. Flim nasty 11. Have y' all heard the stories from the Green Beret named Jack Methoff? Teddy Roosevelt? Sheepdog Response has other SOF Guys listed on the website. Did they abandon ship?

[Tyler]

Oh, there's a good question. What about. What about the guys who now work there and know? And now they. They. At this point, they should know better. Like, who do you get to be instructors and work with you and our. And should they step down? I know it sounds like I'm going after the guy's business. I'm just. I'm just asking tough questions. You know, I'm not.

[Brent]

I. It's so. It's different, too. I mean, because it's not like a bad. It's not like a bad PR Thing where, like, Mike Glover. Like, it's not.

[Tyler]

Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

Let's see. Zulu Whiskey. Thoughts on the FBI SIG stuff? TK Is gay. Taftb. Decipher that, Drew. Oh, gosh.

[Brent]

TAFB BD Anyone?

[Tyler]

Anyone that Couches? Got a guess? T, A, F, T, A, F, TB T, B. I can usually figure these out, but he got us. Dang it. I don't know what the FBI SIG Stuff is. Magnet. You got. You got a. Anyone got a. Anyone tracking that? What do you got? Oh, yeah. The Onion. The unintentional and, in all honestly, neglectful SIG stuff of the discharges that have been happening. The FBI put out a pretty big. Pretty big result, and it's not great for sig. Ben Stoeger covered it pretty well. Oh, really? And he's also the one who coined sigas, too, so it's kind of funny as well. But, yeah, he. He went over it, and it's not great for SIG. They've kind of done A Tim Kennedy thing where they did the. It ends now. And it just didn't. It did not, man. Well, thanks for that comment. What a. What a night to wear this shirt.

[Brent]

Hey, don't be wearing until they sponsor us.

[Tyler]

I know, I know. Glock, you listening? Well, I'll.

[Brent]

Or Sig.

[Tyler]

Good. Yeah. Get your stuff.

[Brent]

When I get some good pr.

[Tyler]

Get your stuff straight.

[Drew]

Not too proud. Pie creamer. Back in 10 bucks. That's 30 bucks from the pie.

[Tyler]

Thanks. Thank you. Pie.

[Drew]

Michael Zendry says ussoc.

[Tyler]

Use a sock.

[Drew]

Use a sock. I always use this.

[Tyler]

I know. No, no, no. For your feet. All right.

[Drew]

You is making him do this lackluster apology so they won't pull his who's tabs tab this or else. Former calf.

[Tyler]

Calvary calf.

[Drew]

And the lack of its integrity is quacked. Pull his tab. Screw his apology and his 50 pound ruck sack of bullshite.

[Tyler]

Yep. All right. Yeah. And hopefully you hear earlier we kind of talked about that. I. It better not be. It better not be some sort of deal like, hey, you make an apology so we don't have to do this to you.

[Brent]

You're probably right, though. It probably got such. I don't get a backlash that.

[Tyler]

No.

[Brent]

No one's happy with his apology besides his friends.

[Drew]

So Chase Lee says TK should have to cut his long tab off and surrender his beret to the CAG daddy himself. On next week's live amadio. Did McPhee play a role in TK's web of lies?

[Tyler]

Ironically enough, I think TK played a role in McPhee's web of lies. I think. I think, Tim, you can lie.

[Brent]

They won't know you could lie.

[Tyler]

Send it. I've been lying for years. Nobody's checked me.

[Brent]

That's that. Dude, I'm telling you. I honestly, I'm not even being mean. I think that there's just not something firing in Tim's brain when it comes to the fact that he thought he could say, I deployed 17 or 20 times to combat zone and not one person was gonna go, I can't handle this anymore. Like, that's a huge lie.

[Tyler]

Not one person to go. You sure about that?

[Brent]

You trick people with the. The Purple Heart verbiage. You trick people with the Bronze Star verbiage. And it takes actual military vets to bring that to light. But just being out of the country 17 times to a combat zone, everybody's.

[Tyler]

Going to go, 20. The numbers 20, 20, 20, 20 times.

[Brent]

At three months, how many was 20 times three? That's 60 months. In a combat zone.

[Tyler]

Here's the other thing. You know you have your combat stripes. Gosh, no. I'm going to get checked for this. I think you get a combat stripe for every six months you're in country. Yeah. All right. He only has a couple combat stripes, so, like, you get. Which. Which would. Which would be the three times he went over there, twice to Iraq. I've said this before. Twice Iraq, once Afghanistan, and his second trip to Iraq. He would get combat time for it, but he wasn't in a combat role. Yeah, he wasn't much in a combat role his first deployment either, as he was in a combat role, much as a. As an assaulter, as he wasn't allowed to assault the house with. With his teammates because he wasn't qualified. So even his first one wasn't much of a combat deployment, but he was on target, so I would give that to him. I'm not. I'm not that much of an A hole.

[Brent]

And I'll.

[Tyler]

I'll back Magna Magnet up on this. Do you think he could be trying to say some. Maybe some of his private contracting gigs that he. Maybe he's quantifying those into the kind of.

[Brent]

So he's gonna say yes now.

[Tyler]

He's my man. He's a black belt in a couple things. And he has. He has his. He has. He's most dangerous in his black belt and verbal judo. I mean, he is just a 22nd degree black belt and verbal judo.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So, yeah, he's every. And again, he's playing on the civilians that don't really know the terminology. Every veteran and military guy knows. When you say combat deployment, you deployed to a combat zone to fight people. That's what a combat deployment is going on a J. Set as a Green Beret of South America, not a combat deployment. Going. Going as a contractor is not a combat deployment. Yeah, it's not you. You got paid a lot of money, and you didn't do it for the love of your country. You did it for. For a private contract. It's not a combat deployment. He knows that. He knows that. But he chooses to play verbal judo anyway.

[Drew]

Zach Hunley, five bucks. Thank you very much. Mike R. Says question for Blart. Do you think if Delta did the bin Laden raid, would there have been a better chance of capturing him alive? And more importantly, why did no one on the raid take a dump in bin Laden's living room?

[Tyler]

I would have. For sure. For sure.

[Drew]

I wouldn't get one chance for that.

[Tyler]

That's really hard to Say if you would have been taken alive, this. I. There's. There's no. There's no way to guess that. It's. I mean, I appreciate the question, but It's. I would be. I wouldn't do it justice by. By trying to. By trying to guess that.

[Brent]

That's what they said when the reinforcement showed up, they were like, it was the seals.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And they're like, how do you know? And they're like, there's no on the carpet.

[Tyler]

But I can tell you this. There. I. Here's one thing I can promise you. There wouldn't be a book right now written by adult force operator saying that he was the only guy in the room and took sole responsibility for that mission. Garen T. It.

[Brent]

I just think people are feeding for truth, and poor Rob o' Neal is not out of the crosshairs right now. Ed is coming back up again.

[Tyler]

I thought for a second. It's funny you said. I thought for a second. I was like, hey, like, Tim's taking so much flack right now. Like, Rob has to be like, good. They forgot about me. Like, I'm. I'm out of it. But I actually think the. The reverse has happened. I think people are like, you know what? They were right. And, you know, we have people who are liars among us. I think this is actually energized people to be like, maybe we should get rid of these guys. I actually think Rob's gonna catch even more flack because they're gonna be like, oh, who else is the biggest grifter besides Tim Kennedy? Rob o'. Neill. Yep.

[Brent]

Both of them.

[Drew]

There's validity to what the honest guys are saying.

[Brent]

Both of them are endorsed by drinking roast. Imagine that.

[Tyler]

That's why it's a new podcast, a new documentary. What's that?

[Drew]

He's never. A new documentary.

[Tyler]

The Netflix one. Yeah.

[Brent]

Rob o'.

[Tyler]

Neill. Yeah.

[Brent]

Nobody at Netflix knew that. Not God.

[Drew]

He's in an episode and a half of that documentary.

[Tyler]

And you know what's funny? You. Do you know how many other seals are on that documentary? Not a one. So again. And you know why? Because they wouldn't do it. Because Rob o' Neill was telling the story. So if they were attached to it, they would have had to confirm Rob o' Neill story. So they. They're like, no, I'm not doing it. Matt Bissonnette is in the public. Like, he would have. He would have. He would have done it. He's in the public, but he won't do it with Rob o'. Neill. Because he knows Rob o' Neill is a liar.

[Brent]

You think Netflix didn't ask them? Because I know.

[Tyler]

I. I know for a fact they asked a lot of them.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew]

For a fact, Teddy Roosevelt, I will be buying numerous bottles of FRCC bourbon. My OCD tells me the C and the C should be on the other side and the F and R on top and bottom. Did you debate the order of those letters?

[Tyler]

I did. I did debate the order of. Of those letters. That was.

[Brent]

I can't believe everybody.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I know. At. It's. It is. It is what it is. You got to go with something at some point.

[Drew]

That's it.

[Brent]

Pull the trigger.

[Tyler]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And that's true. Like whether it's this podcast. We talk about this with the Tim Kennedy eps, and this is going to happen with the next Tim Kennedy episode. Like, you want perfect. You do. Like, as. As a. As. Like as owners of this. This being our product. Like, we want it to be perfect. Yeah. But at some point, we wait for all the information. In the perfect episode, you guys will be waiting years to get it. So at some point, it just has to be good enough and you got to send it.

[Drew]

B. Jordan says, how different is life for troop commanders at the unit? What makes for a great troop commander? And do they do CQB and shoot often?

[Tyler]

They don't do any cqb. They can shoot as often as they want, but they. They. They don't. They're not a part of the teams. What makes a great one, a troop commander and troop sergeant major is the easiest job in the world. It is. It's the easiest job in the world. Here's. Here's what you do. Nothing.

[Drew]

Let the boys cook.

[Tyler]

You have the world's greatest assaulters and, you know, the most motivated people underneath.

[Brent]

You coordinate pizza and we can do the rest.

[Tyler]

That's right. Yeah. Coordinate training. Tell them yes to everything they want and just show up and be like, you guys good. Okay. And just watch the boys work.

[Drew]

Keep the food. The boys.

[Brent]

No DUIs.

[Drew]

Guest request. Pat Mack and Sergeant William Falk. Rangers, Vers, Crips.

[Tyler]

PMAC doesn't like to leave Southern Pines anymore, so it be really hard to get him out. Maybe I can get him while he's on vacation one day. That's the great thing about being here in Orlando. Like, at some point, people come down here for vacation. Yeah.

[Drew]

Tim Hun says, once I said sorry to my girlfriend. I'm sorry, but it was because you.

[Tyler]

Whoa.

[Drew]

She said, stop. Don't say sorry, but tell me. I Caused it. Just apologize. Honestly. TK Has a lawyer publicist, but did same thing Dumbarse did.

[Tyler]

So here's another fun fact. Tim Kennedy had a lawyer before this one. He has a new lawyer. And the last lawyer was pretty, like, came out the gates, like, swinging kind of hard and, and big dicking a little bit. Yeah. And he was Eddie Gallagher's lawyer. Okay. Eddie Gallagher's been pretty vocal about this Tim Kennedy stuff. He hasn't shied away. I don't know this for a fact. I probably asked him. He'd tell us. Something tells me that that lawyer left Tim Kennedy at some point. He either got enough grief or looked into it enough. And it was like, hold on. This isn't. This isn't a winnable case. Like, this is defendable. And something tells me this new lawyer is about to find out the same thing.

[Brent]

That. Or he's a. Or he's a lawyer's wet dream. Like, there's always going to be work when it comes to TK he's gonna.

[Drew]

Make money either way.

[Brent]

So it's a lot of hard work, but it's gonna be worth it.

[Tyler]

Or, or maybe Tim found a lawyer with, with no values. And integrity is like, effort. As long as the check's clear, I'll. Yeah, I'll be here.

[Brent]

You don't got to tell me the truth. You just tell me what you want me to say.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we'll see. Time will tell on that one.

[Drew]

James De La Cruz says, I saw a video of Tom saying, maybe that's Tim saying, I got blown up. And Jocko asked, is that how you got the Purple Heart? And Tim said, yep. And he said, shrapnel on his arms and back.

[Tyler]

I saw a video saying, I got blown up in Jocko ass. Is that how you got.

[Brent]

Have you seen the whole Jocko one? I haven't.

[Tyler]

I, I, I thought I have at one point. You probably have. Yeah. Yeah. But I may have been droning out, they run together. Yeah. I gotta. Gosh, I got to look back, because I was another.

[Brent]

I was gonna say Tim Kennedy actually, to my knowledge, has not said that he's received a Purple heart.

[Tyler]

He just.

[Brent]

He just justified it, Right.

[Tyler]

By saying he's been injured, which combat.

[Brent]

That's implied, by the way, too.

[Tyler]

That's.

[Brent]

You're implying that you had a purple heart.

[Tyler]

Directly or indirectly implied that he might have misstepped and misspoken, possibly in some sort of way that he had a purple heart.

[Brent]

Maybe.

[Drew]

He also said you were looking at the wrong DD14.

[Tyler]

Right? Yeah. Yeah. The wrong one. Which is just. In fact, oddly enough, that would have been the most current one. Things can fall off your DD214. It was a 2011 DD214. He got. He got injured in 2008.

[Brent]

I just love.

[Tyler]

It would absolutely be there.

[Brent]

We had the picture of him the day. The afternoon he said he was blown up. And he was standing there smiling with a group of people completely unscathed with all of his uniform not dirty.

[Tyler]

I'm a tease a little bit. You guys are gonna see that picture again because some like it. You know, zebras don't change their stripes. Okay. By the way, zebras are white with black stripes. And you cannot tell me different. Me and Devin have some heated arguments about this.

[Drew]

Get serious. But they dragged me into it.

[Tyler]

But that being said. So he already had this story about him being covered in blood and guts. And then there being a photo of him not covering blood and guts. Yep. We may have to show that. That picture again with another picture with the withdrawal of being like, what's similar about these pictures and what's similar about the story? Hold on. It's coming, guys. I'm telling you. It's gonna blow your minds.

[Drew]

All right, D. Michael comes back in and says. I'm talking about Jason Redmond.

[Tyler]

Yes. About early.

[Drew]

About Red man or Redmond.

[Tyler]

Oh, oh, oh, Red Man.

[Drew]

I don't remember.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. He asked me about if. If DJ had anything to say about Red Man. And I thought he was talking about Red.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Tyler]

And got a little bit confused. And I was one that got confused. So I apologize. You. You were right when you said Redmond is different than Red Man. Yeah. So no. DJ is actually the one who gave me his number and hooked us up. DJ has as. As great things to say about Jason.

[Drew]

Point man podcast is. Ignorance of the law is not a defense.

[Brent]

Yeah, it's true.

[Tyler]

In some cases it is. We. We actually proved that. In some cases is. In some cases it isn't.

[Brent]

I mean, you're not. I think it's. It's common law. Like you. Oh, I didn't know. I couldn't burglarize that. Business isn't gonna fly.

[Tyler]

Right. But let's go with fraud. What's the difference between fraud and. And. And being a bad business? Yeah. And being a bad investor. We'll just say that if you invest someone else's money, one is fraud and one's just being a bad investor. And intent. Intent is what makes it fraud.

[Brent]

Intent to defraud is actually the charge.

[Tyler]

There you go.

[Drew]

Matt Forster. Said Brett, have you had a one on one with Sean Ryan about his culpability in spreading TK and other stories? If so, was he receptive? Stay safe. If you can't stay safe, stay deadly. Cheers.

[Tyler]

I don't like talking too much about one on one conversations because I never want people to go, I don't want to talk to you because if I say something to you. But I. But I have said before that, that I've talked to Sean. We'll just. But I'll say I will. We'll keep those conversations between me and Sean for now because I will respect what. What me and Sean talk about. And I don't want to. I don't want to lose his trust.

[Drew]

The takeaway.

[Tyler]

Sean's good dude, and Sean's a good dude. Yes.

[Drew]

Christian Torres says, yo, Tyler, I'm a vet from 1 505. I start the police academy. Any advice? Thank you, guys. H minus.

[Brent]

He's from one Panther. Yeah. No, I mean just stay in shape and be a leader in the academy. That's what they're looking for.

[Drew]

Boebert says make sure to check out the new TK website.

[Tyler]

I did check out the new TK website. He took his sponsors, like, from the. Like that was right on the landing page. And now you have to click on something to see the sponsors. But all the sponsors are still there, including Black Rifle, who dropped them, including uscca, who dropped them, and including probably whoever else is on there. Probably. Probably dropped them.

[Brent]

Black Rifle drops. I forgot about that.

[Tyler]

And. And. And legally said take it off.

[Brent]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, did we not. That was. That was last week. That was last week.

[Brent]

Oh, you did? Okay.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. And we. And they allowed us to show the. The. The message from the lawyer that basically said, take it off. Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

B. Jordan, for two bucks. Which foreign unit impressed you the most? Sas?

[Tyler]

Your mom.

[Drew]

Your mom.

[Tyler]

Is that was. Is that really what he meant? Your mom? No, I don't think so. Who. What is Yamam and which SAS? So I have to ask for $1.99. You can write back for $1.99 and tell us which SAS.

[Drew]

Jack Adams. First time watching. Love the show but wins the butt stuff.

[Tyler]

Wrong channel.

[Drew]

Yeah. CP 1664. Do you two homos C. J Cal on Sean Ryan, SAS guy convicted of murder. Do you have any thoughts? Love the show. Five pounds.

[Tyler]

The.

[Brent]

So that equates to how much?

[Tyler]

I don't know, 16 ounces times five.

[Drew]

More than four pounds.

[Tyler]

I'm sure it's a good episode. I've seen A bunch of clips from it. I just haven't seen the whole thing. I've met Jay before. I met him at shot show last year. The year before. Gosh, thank you. Magnet. Magnet is with me, actually. And he was great to talk to. He was, he was, he was a great dude.

[Drew]

Falco, 20 bucks. Brent, did you see the clip of the SAS operator on the Sean Ryan show talking about wearing the American flag while deploying with Delta and how much it meant to him? And what experiences do you have with the sas, if anything?

[Tyler]

Yeah, we got a lot of experiences with those guys. And so he was attached to a squadron the same way the SAS operator or the few that, that I know were attached to ours. And they were great dudes. They're just, they're just good dudes.

[Brent]

Is it just. Is it. Is it mainly for cross training or is there, is there something that SAS brings to Delta that you guys don't have?

[Tyler]

No. Yeah, no, it's just for cross training. Yeah. They don't, they don't necessarily bring anything table that we don't have. There's an extra body and they're welcomed. Extra body.

[Drew]

Did you see the clip where the SAS guy was wearing the flag?

[Tyler]

I didn't see that. That's pretty cool though. I gotta think back on and I'd imagine they, they wore. I don't know what flag they. Now that he says that, but. But if I saw them wearing like an American flag, I'd take that as a compliment. Yeah.

[Brent]

I mean, how cool when they say the product, right?

[Tyler]

I mean, how cool is that that you would wear? I mean, they're proud dudes. As they should be. They are. They earned that. That pride that they're willing to wear another country's flag in the combat. That's, that's, that's probably the biggest question compliment they could give you. Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

The John Howard show says TK was not at the river Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday. First responders there told me he did nothing to help and didn't even come say hi. Now he is posting pictures from his one content day pretending he is there to take the heat off.

[Brent]

Jonathan Howard's on the case, baby. That guy is.

[Tyler]

You would know.

[Brent]

He is on every case.

[Tyler]

Love is.

[Brent]

He's got actually something that he's. I guess he's gonna bring us on. The thing he referenced on the live.

[Tyler]

He was on is.

[Brent]

It's a, it's, it's a breaking story. The problem is he's like, he. I don't know if he could wait till August. And I'm like, we're kind of booked, but we'll see if we can make it work.

[Tyler]

All right?

[Brent]

And John Jacks me. I'm the worst.

[Tyler]

You gave us that. Pictures up pictures up pictures. Pictures up there in the lobby. I love it.

[Drew]

Looks good, Mitchell. Thank you for the love, Mike Hunt. Hey, gents, there any chance we can get something going to help people in Texas? They got hit hard and really deserve a hand. Also, Brent, I hope you enjoy a Few Bad Men, by the way. It's plight. All right.

[Tyler]

Yeah, the book's right there. It's right there.

[Brent]

Right there.

[Tyler]

Hey, could everyone hear us? My. My old friend, old Russ Freeman, former Green Beret, said no audio on YouTube, but fix your.

[Drew]

Fix your computer.

[Tyler]

Drew, can you go. Can you go back to the okay. To the regular comment section? Can you go back to the okay. All right. Okay. Thank you, Russ. Just in case. Don't worry.

[Brent]

We don't understand our computers either.

[Tyler]

That's right. Just. Just because you're wrong doesn't mean I'm upset at you for reaching out. That. That actually could have happened. And someone's got to tell us if it does.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Thank you, Russ.

[Drew]

A bunch of guys saying we can hear.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

Chat.

[Tyler]

Thank you, guys.

[Drew]

All right, Kenny. Oh, by the way, did you guys hear the. The Kansas City guys, The, like, the coach and the quarterback, they gave like, a bunch of money to the. What's the quarterback's name for Kansas City? Super bowl winner Mahomes? He gave like 1.5 million bucks.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Drew]

And they put a bunch of people up in hotels that needed a place to stay.

[Brent]

Yeah. The best thing that you can do if you don't have money is the best thing is show up with a pair of boots and.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Be willing to work. And if you can't do that, just donate. You know, I. Or spread awareness. Like, not like Tim Kennedy, though. And here's the thing. Like you said, if he just said, hey, I'm here, I'm not doing anything. I'm just bringing cameras here because that's my part in this. Everybody's got their part, right?

[Drew]

All right. This is Kenny. Forbes says. Waited two weeks to say this. Tyler, your ad with the creatine gummies. You say Jurassic instead of drastic. Anyways. Outro song Chop Suey by S. So.

[Tyler]

System of a Down.

[Brent]

I said, well, no.

[Tyler]

Oh, now we're in a. Now in a heated time.

[Drew]

You say Jurassic instead of drastic.

[Brent]

I don't say Jurassic like Jurassic Park.

[Drew]

Well, I think. I guess maybe you're lazy on the drastic, and then it comes out drastic. It's a drastic change.

[Brent]

It's a drastic change. Yeah. We're at a 20 buck tie.

[Tyler]

20 buck tie.

[Brent]

You guys donating a lot of money? Aren't even putting songs down.

[Drew]

All right. PNS golf says Brent Laden gonna trim the beard anytime soon?

[Tyler]

That's a good question. I. I have no plan with it, which means it's just gonna grow. If you have like, I don't know, at some point I'm going to have to trim it. I just don't.

[Brent]

You just gotta wait for the business meeting.

[Tyler]

I don't know when.

[Brent]

There's always something a couple times a year.

[Tyler]

Right? Yeah. That I have to like. Yeah. I should probably look professional to this one. And what about no one.

[Brent]

No one say anything. What about the hair?

[Tyler]

Yeah, it was. Because it's. It's kept. Are you talking about the receding hairline? No. Was that last. Did we talk about the hair plugs last week, too?

[Brent]

Yeah, two weeks ago.

[Tyler]

Two. That was two weeks ago. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. At some point I'll have to look normal again.

[Drew]

Mosk says. A little off topic, but Mike Glover dropped off after his legal issues and now he's back pivoting from field craft. Do you still think he has his gun rights? Guess most of the charges were dropped.

[Brent]

I don't know. I mean, I don't know every state, but I know in Florida if you. You could have no charges, but they could have an injunction against you, in which case you cannot own a firearm. So you have to give your firearms to the sheriff's office. So. And I. And I hate that. Because women can get injunctions.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

For anything. Yeah. And. Or, you know, or a man. I don't know. But yeah. You have to surrender your firearms while there's an active injunction against you.

[Drew]

Mark Mobley says, what's up? Burnt trucker. Big fan of the camo Delta cigar, tk heard Chuck Norris jokes and turn them into his autobiography. Axel Thursday is for the boys. The best place after sharkies to throw money at the hosts. Brent's taint. That's his name. Brent. Are 160th guys able to integrate with a soft unit if the birds go down on target? Assuming they aren't kia.

[Tyler]

No. Well, we got a. The site would integrate. Like, can they get in my stack because they were helicopter pilots? Absolutely not. Like CCTs and PJs are great guys and they're ground guys and they. They're not getting in my stack. Can. Can, Can. Can they Shoot guns and help protect the force. Absolutely. Like, they're. They're great at that. But, no, not like a true integration. They're. I'll say they're not a liability. You know, I mean, I don't worry about them.

[Brent]

Like, that's your situation. Like an active shooter, they'd be great to have in your stack, but when you have planning and.

[Tyler]

Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're not a liability. I don't have to, like, look out for them. Be like, oh, like, he's. Is he pointing the right way? I mean, they're great dudes. They're super competent, but they can't integrate into the plan now.

[Drew]

Chase Lee. 20 bucks, my last. I'm gonna read it a sec. We did read your chat before, brother, but since you played again, we're gonna read it a second time. My last $20 chat timed out. TK should have. Have to cut his long tab off and surrender his beret to the CAG daddy himself on next week's live.

[Brent]

We said that?

[Drew]

Yeah, we did.

[Tyler]

We're saying twice, though.

[Drew]

He didn't think so, so he sent it again. So we're gonna say it again.

[Tyler]

Just present it to me.

[Drew]

Thanks for the love.

[Brent]

Shut up.

[Drew]

We're Saying it twice, Mr. Lobotomy. 50 bucks, man. Thanks for the love. Bringing in some scripture says Luke 22:36, which is about Jesus telling his disciples to get a sword because he's about to go. Ecclesiastes 3, that is. There's a time for. There's a season and a time for everything. So there's a time to kill, there's a time to heal. So the Bible is pure gold, and it addresses everything we need to know. End times prophecy is unfolding at an incredible rate. Now, to the haters, you are playing musical chairs with God, and the music is about to stop. That'll preach right there, Mr. Bottomy.

[Brent]

That was Drew.

[Tyler]

Drew. This we talked about a little bit, but now that we're all together, we're gonna stop this for a podcast business meeting real quick with what's. Everything that's going on right on today and that. Like, I really want you to do that Revelations podcast with us. We. And we. We have. We have a few that need to be done. I know we have some tomorrow, but how. How. How much. How much time do you need to get ready for that?

[Brent]

Can he have some free PTO from First Mars Cloth Company?

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Brent]

That's. My man over there is like, yeah, I just.

[Drew]

I just need a weekend just to make sure.

[Tyler]

See we get on the calendar next.

[Drew]

Like, webs off all the details and record it. You guys put me on the calendar. I'll do it.

[Tyler]

All right. It's coming.

[Drew]

It'll be fun. Gooch Parm actual says ftk. He doesn't give a rat's arse about anything but the brand he's grifted into or grafted into an empire of shite. And he'll stop nothing to keep the gravy train rolling. Pull the tab and Beretta. Nathan P. Keep Drew employed.

[Tyler]

Drake on Nowhere.

[Brent]

Yeah, that's a shirt to screw up more.

[Drew]

That's a shirt I'd buy. That's a shirt I'd buy. Airborne. Homestead. Brent, how many things from the NCO standpoint has Tim violated as a leader and the NCO creed? The army has to write this with some form of ucmj.

[Tyler]

He's. He's. He's completely violated. It's. I mean, you can go all the way down to the most basic of the army standards, which is leadership. Okay, I'm gonna do something really gay right now. But leadership, which is. I'll actually needed you for this. Which is loyalty. It's an acronym. Duty. Leadership. R is respect. Respect. So. So we've lost respect. S is selfless service. So we've lost selfless service. So we're already. He's already lost half of them. H is honor.

[Brent]

Honesty or honor.

[Tyler]

It's honor. And he has. And anyone who lies and does everything he's done has no honor. Here's a big one.

[Brent]

Integrity.

[Tyler]

I is integrity. So he's lost that one. And P is personal sacrifice. P is personal sacrifice. We'll say that with. With. And gosh, I feel like that's wrong. Anyway, so of all those. This is the big army. This isn't even going down. That's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 of their core values. He is violent. Absolutely violated. 1, 2, 3, 4. 1, 2, 3, four, five.

[Brent]

Personal courage.

[Tyler]

Personal courage. Personal courage to do the right thing. Now he's violated.

[Brent]

That's true. That would take personal courage would have.

[Tyler]

Been to make a true and honest apology. There's no personal courage and. And what he's done.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Airborne. Nope. Blue Rubrius. Blue group.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

Quote in UFC mag on TK site right now. Bronze Star medal for valor under fire. Triumphantly returning in his other form, that of a mixed martial artist.

[Tyler]

On TK site right now.

[Drew]

Quote from UFC Magic. You all right, Teddy Broosevelt? Have you guys ever seen Tim Kennedy's solo man? Cqb video thoughts.

[Tyler]

Oh, my gosh. I, I. Please send it to us. I gotta see it. There's. I could only. I can't think of much more horrendous things than Tim Kennedy doing CQB 1 and 2. Doing solo CQB. I'm glad you said that. I'm gonna write that down. Gonna go look at it, and then maybe we'll have a breakdown video. Just, just assuming that it's very mockable. But something tells me it's pretty mockable. Tactical training, not remarkable mockable.

[Drew]

Tactical Training Group LLC says I'm on vacation in Palm Bay, Florida. Not too far from us. Where can I buy cigars in person? Nothing there around that area that I know of.

[Tyler]

Okay. Drew?

[Drew]

No, sorry, brother.

[Brent]

Hey, Brent.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it is on there. It is on there underneath about Tim Kennedy. If you go to his military section, it says Tim is an active duty master sergeant. Oh, there's an. I saw that last night. Actually, he's not active duty. Oh, no, it gets better. He's a National Guardsman. He's a part time reservist. He's National Guard. He is not active duty. There's one lie that we've uncovered right now, live. Go ahead. Yeah, he has served with the 7th and 19th Special Forces Group and has been awarded the Bronze Star Medal. But he had. So he has been awarded the Bronze Star for service. Which means you showed up. But let me see. All right, keep going while I read this.

[Drew]

Let's see.

[Tyler]

Beach.

[Drew]

Yeah. There is one called the Office Cigar Lounge. Our cigars are in the Office Cigar Lounge. And Cocoa Beach. Coco beach is a little bit of a drive from Palm Bay, but it's probably the closest. So the Office Cigar Lounge in Cocoa Beach, 36 South Atlantic Avenue. Good dudes there, too.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

Won't take a whole lot. I found another line. His website. Tim Kennedy was one of four special operation operatives that flew into Kabul. I don't want to give away too much, but that, that is a very misleading statement. Well, you'll, you'll find that out on the episode. I gave this way last week, so I'll give it away again. Afghan civilian volunteering to assist with evacuation American allies for NGO Save Our Allies after 10 days of operations. Spoiler alert. You weren't there for 10 days, so that's a lie. SOA saved nearly 17,000 lives while staging out of HKA. You yourself said 12,000 out of your mouth. So that's a lie. And by the way, another spoiler alert, that's also a lie. I have the exact numbers and it ain't that. But keep going. I'm still waiting to see exactly what that guy said, but all right, but keep going.

[Drew]

All right, Nate. Big Buck Nasty says. Hey, you animals. TK saved my life. Pulled me from the edge. TK is confused and harms himself stain his story. But believe on a wishing star, TK Ganad's 50 hands will return when we need him most.

[Tyler]

Oh, man. Well, I got another question. I gotta look this down. I can't believe in fact, I've actually never gone to his website really fact checking him produced and starred and the number one independent film of the year range 15. I don't believe he was a producer on that movie. And to say he starred in that movie is a little crazy. But produced and starred.

[Drew]

That was unattention.

[Tyler]

That was on that was he. He unintentionally misstepped. Yes. I wonder what Black Rifle has to say about that. Or the boys over there or JT or some of the other guys that. That did a lot of heavy lifting on that thing to even make it possible. If they would agree with that statement. I'll ask them.

[Drew]

PNS golf says. Tyler, I would love to hear more about your military career. Hopefully not a sack of nades.

[Brent]

No, mine was pretty quick. I joined during the surge in 2007, went to basic training, went to airborne school, got stationed in Fort Bragg with the 82nd, deployed to Baghdad in 2008 and then did a. Once we got back from Iraq, I did a rotation of global Response Force or whatever the that's called, where you're stuck at Fort Bragg for a year straight, not doing while everybody else deployed. And then I got out and then I did three years in the National Guard for beer money.

[Drew]

All right, let's see. Kaylin niece, 2 bucks says. What's the scoop on TK's fire and police career? Nathan McGurin, 20 bucks online.

[Tyler]

Okay, There is no police career. No, that's no police career. He graduated the academy. I'm sure he probably said he was distinguished honor grad of the academy. He was never, never hired by a police department. He. He doesn't have a police career. Which is funny because there's another thing where he like, he likes to play word verbal jujitsu with about tomorrow. Like his time as a police officer. We need to like I've done all this.

[Brent]

When you say I graduated the police academy, that's implying to the everyday person that you are a cop. Because when you say that and you don't say, but I never Became a law enforcement officer. I just went to the law enforcement academy. It just kind of goes without saying if you don't say that, that you became a cop. Here's by the way, your reels at 50,000k views already. What?

[Tyler]

Yeah, here's another funny. Enlisted in the army on September 11th. That's on his website. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. We have your DD214. We have your. I'm a. Screw this word up. Your. What is it called? Your SAED or something like that? Well, not. There's a word that. It's your. It's your date of entry. I'm date. Anyway, it's your enlisted. Like it's your date of entry. It's like the day you sign the papers. Almost everyone knows theirs. Yep. Mine's September 27, 2001, because that's how long it took to sign up. Even though I made the decision on September 12th. I want to join. No, I signed the paperwork in the recruiter's office. And. And that's. And that's your. There's. In fact, there's two of them. There's your. Oh, I'm slowly coming back to me. There's your pay entry base date, I believe is what. Is what it's called. And that's the first. That's. That's like when you actually show up the basic. Like that's the day you were getting paid. And then there's your. There's another date, and that's the day you signed the papers. Okay. And both of those are on your DD214. He didn't sign his papers. Like 2003, 2004. That's on his DD214. He didn't sign up. And he sure as hell didn't sign up on September 11th. Every recruiter's office was closed on September 11th. So just going to keep. Just going to keep looking at his own lies here on his. On his website. Use of sock. Hope you care about this.

[Drew]

Nathan McGurren. 20 bucks. On my side by Demon Hunter. I guess that's. Is that a song?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

On My side by Demon Hunter Christian metal band. The song is about death being a gateway to life for the Christian. Love the podcast. Blunt and Tigger.

[Brent]

A great band.

[Drew]

Moski says TK ain't got a great track record of being Pro2A2.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. He pissed off that whole community, too.

[Drew]

Red40 actual TK is the Sig P320 of the veteran community. That's the second one on there that's pretty good. NDP says I tried tagging at USA Sock CSM but won't post anywhere. She must have them turned on.

[Brent]

We are back. Are we that behind on super chat?

[Drew]

I'm moving as fast I can.

[Brent]

No, no, no, no. But I. I think that's like an hour old if we're that behind.

[Drew]

Not giving me a time.

[Brent]

Okay, yeah, we'll keep going. I'll make the call.

[Drew]

All right. I can read all 20 bucks and up if we want to.

[Brent]

Is that scroll bar. Is that accurate?

[Drew]

Yep. For. For all this is nothing but super chats. I'm. We're looking at. There's no other chat in this so I can see all super.

[Brent]

Yeah, I would do 20 and up.

[Drew]

All right. Jacob Schneider.

[Tyler]

Hey, I'm sorry. Your basic entry date. Someone text me. Basic entry date is. Was the what I was looking for.

[Drew]

No, it's basd.

[Tyler]

Basic active service date. Okay. Which. But most people call it your basic entry date is. Is basically. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right.

[Brent]

We just need to get that.

[Drew]

Hey, Brent, Any chance Tate or Xavier would come on and tell their story? I know you had. Okay.

[Tyler]

Go back. But I don't think we were TK even lies about you over.

[Drew]

Yeah, we're doing 20 bucks though.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

Want to thank everybody for doing some super chats, but you know, we got 3, 000 people here tonight and we got to get through to some super chats. Doing 20 bucks. And up here. Sergeant Will. I could accept TK stealing my wife. I'd be pissed, but okay. Eventually.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

This stolen valor and half arsed apology.

[Brent]

F off.

[Drew]

Own it. Make a video and earn the apology, dirtbag. Love you, Brett and Ernie. Thank you.

[Brent]

Why am I Ernie?

[Tyler]

Big luck Ernie.

[Drew]

Nate big Buck Nasty says TK advised Leonidas to stay and fight at Thermopylae while the King heeded his advice but would not wear the TK brand grenade bags. True story.

[Tyler]

Hit me. Now I do have to pee.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, I read a five dollar one. Sorry, guys.

[Brent]

Snug it in.

[Drew]

Muscle memory. Muscle memory. All right. Rips for $50 says EOD Guy and Brevard. Nice. Yeah, let's blow stuff up sometime. I heard TK was close to Thomas Jefferson and actually wrote the Constitution. So he gets to decide what free speech is.

[Brent]

I am now hard to get a hold of when you're offering to blow up, so let us know. We will make time for that.

[Drew]

That'd be great.

[Brent]

And you need to come to the studio.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Email the The Antihero podcast. Gmail.com. there it is. Headliner blowing up.

[Drew]

He also showed the founding fathers what grenades are. Love it. Love it. Bag of Nades. 96. Nope. Sorry. Boy, there's a lot of fire.

[Brent]

We'll go back. I. I will try to go back and try.

[Drew]

We got time. We'll go back. Absolutely. Hurricane Dan. $50. Slayer, angel of Death.

[Tyler]

Live.

[Drew]

Speaking of decade of aggression at Lakeland Center.

[Brent]

I gotta write that down.

[Drew]

Go get the crayon. Bren only writes in crayons. Let's. Slayer, angel of death. 50 bucks.

[Brent]

He's not even. Dude, Brent isn't even writing the amount of money he just wrote. Soad. Chop suey.

[Drew]

Well, do. Do what you can there, Holden. Two dekes. 20 bucks. TK couldn't even find Hitler. Scooby Doo for a hundred bucks, man. Thank you for the love. It says message retracted, so that's interesting. I've never seen that before. Message retracted. I'm sure he did it. But, hey, Scooby Doo, thank you very much. Takes money to be here.

[Brent]

Thanks, man.

[Drew]

And it keeps it going, so we really appreciate it. $50. Chase Lee. Drew work more quicklier. Doing my best, brother. I'm talking fast.

[Tyler]

Drew nails first.

[Drew]

Two $20 chats timed out. TK should have to cut his long tab off. And surrenders prey to the gag daddy himself. On next week's live. Chase Lee, I have read your.

[Brent]

Twice.

[Drew]

I've read it twice because you did.

[Brent]

It two times before.

[Drew]

This is the third time, brother. I got you. I have read it three times. You've done it three times.

[Tyler]

We're good.

[Drew]

But hey, if you don't. If you don't hear them, if you.

[Brent]

Want to pay another 20 bucks, we'll read it four times.

[Drew]

Send them in, brother. We love it, man. We appreciate it. All right. Nope, nope, Nope. Sorry, sorry. Holden 2 Deeks back in again. Brent, look into getting Sergeant Major Brad Casal on. He was a marine in Fallujah and earned the Naval Cross. He has a book called My Men Are My Heroes, and the picture on the book is bad arse.

[Brent]

What is it, Brad? What?

[Drew]

Brad Casal. K A S A L. All right, I'll get.

[Brent]

I'll put it in Brent's book.

[Drew]

20 bucks from Will Cray says sent y' all drinking bros response on the email. Also, beer money for y'.

[Tyler]

All.

[Brent]

Will, you still a drinking Bros fan?

[Drew]

He says sent y' all drinking bros response on the email.

[Brent]

Yeah, There it is.

[Drew]

Jimmy 600 says got his 50. Super chat. We really appreciate it, guys. Here is some celebration dough, and you Want my honest opinion of TK's apology? I've seen better acting in Baywatch. Corno.

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Drew]

What's corno?

[Tyler]

Porno.

[Drew]

Is that what that is?

[Tyler]

I think that's what he's trying to say. Drew, what about the poll?

[Drew]

We got the poll.

[Tyler]

Did we say. Yeah.

[Drew]

1760 votes on this one. Let's close poll. Dang it. Where'd it go? It's not. It's not my fault. They said they fixed it.

[Tyler]

1700 people didn't get this.

[Drew]

93%. Yes.

[Tyler]

Okay. Oh, what's that?

[Brent]

It's not my fault. They said they fixed it. What is that?

[Drew]

That's. That's in Star Wars. That's Han Solo on the. On the Falcon. After the.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Drew]

They said they fixed it. It's not my fault. 93. Yes. And it won't tell. I can't see the. No, the chat will tell us.

[Tyler]

6%. I can see it right there because.

[Drew]

I guess we just do the math.

[Brent]

That'd be pretty easy.

[Tyler]

That's pretty crazy that. That 6% of you think. No, that's just me. And honest.

[Brent]

I do not have your email. The antihero podcast at Gmail.

[Tyler]

Do it.

[Brent]

The antihero podcast.

[Tyler]

Not two Ease the.

[Brent]

I got people emailing me saying, you. You didn't read my super chat. But we did. Well, if you don't. If it gets deleted, we now have the technology, thanks to Nate from Valhalla vft. Well, they. They stay. So we'll read them as long as. Right now they're. We got. We're reading 20 up, but if it deletes it for you, we still have it.

[Drew]

All right, we're back at us.

[Brent]

Moving up.

[Drew]

We're back in $50. Sack full of nades just because I haven't heard Drew say it in a couple of weeks. Also, the fact TK made MSG hurts my soul. Take his tab and beret. Now everything he does just puts a burr under my saddle.

[Tyler]

So MSG song about making master sergeant. I'm telling you, if he makes sergeant major, there better be an uprising in the veteran community. An absolute uprising.

[Drew]

No, I missed some. Sorry, I gotta go back. Oh, there it is. There's the Corno. All right, we got Brian Travis says what's up from North California, gents. Thursday nights for the boys. I'm curious if y' all reached out to Tansy or vice versa since TK's apology came out.

[Tyler]

Good question, Tyler.

[Brent]

No, I have no ill. We have no ill feelings towards Eric Tansey. We just have not been in contact since we left the network. And I get it.

[Tyler]

He.

[Brent]

He. He has things that he has to do, and we had, you know, things that we had to do. So. No, I should reach out.

[Tyler]

No, we don't have anything we have to do. We have things we want to do.

[Brent]

We have integrity. You have to abide by our integrity. Yeah, we're not driven. I'm telling you right now, you could threaten to take away every penny the anti hero has ever made. And I'll go stock shells at Lowe's before I give up my integrity. So we will.

[Tyler]

Gosh, I don't know saying this is anti sponsor or, like, taking the wrong way, but we will drop a sponsor in a heartbeat. Thankfully, we haven't had to, but we would like this. There's nothing we wouldn't do if our integrity was on the line, including, like, what we already talked about. We'd have to come back out and eat some crow and be like, you know, we shouldn't have had that guest on. That was just. That was just wrong. We drop a sponsor, your name's all you got.

[Brent]

And, I mean, I think that we would end up getting a sponsor that's bad for our listeners before we would get a liar. And I say that because we have a lot of people that come through. And the first thing that you look at with sponsors is you look at the reputation, you look at what they stand for, and you look at what they want to pay, but you really can't research their customer relationship until you start working with them. And people are like, hey, this company sucks. And I don't think we've never had one like any. Every company is gonna get complaints.

[Tyler]

You know what? Here's. We don't talk about this. This a whole lot, but HP CRT wasn't. Wasn't doing well because of customer support.

[Brent]

Yes.

[Tyler]

And we. And management at the time. And we quit promoting them and quit doing everything until we said, hey, fix it. Fix it, or we can't have our name attached to it. And they. They came back and said, this is the plan, and redid their whole structure and said, hey, we are fixing this. And we brought it back.

[Brent]

We. We did keep them on the. The primary sponsor on the shows. That's. You can't really not do that. But we quit organic.

[Tyler]

But.

[Brent]

But content.

[Tyler]

But if they didn't have a plan for it, we would. We would have.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Patrick says no question. Just some beer money. 50 bucks. Thank you.

[Brent]

Thank you, Patrick.

[Drew]

Heck yeah. Sec 8 says effing tall tales. Timmy and Just like that, a new bullet was added to the Friday safety brief.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Bryce Talley, $50 TK sucks. Peeing with his donut. Keep up the good work, guys. Scooby doo, back in 50 bucks. My old chat got deleted. My great uncle was on Iwo Jima.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Drew]

Combat vet in the line and never got wounded.

[Tyler]

That's crazy.

[Drew]

He retired as a grocery store manager. Most humble man I ever knew, dude.

[Brent]

God, that isn't that crazy right now. You do that in 20 in today's times, you're just gonna make a living on speaking and podcasts.

[Tyler]

No.

[Brent]

And then guys like that, World War II guys had to go back into the workforce. No VA disability. No one cared about your PTSD society. You just integrated back into.

[Tyler]

Like nothing happened. Yeah, but you know what? We say that, but you know what those guys got to do that. That Tim Kennedy can't do. They get to lay their heads down every day knowing that they saved the world. And that's not even a dramatic statement. They saved the world. They didn't have to tell people everything they did because they knew what they did. And they knew the price that their fellow brothers paid because they watched it. They didn't have to talk about it because they knew Tim has to talk about it and make it up because he didn't do it.

[Brent]

And the ass kicking that they gave meant that every generation after them did not have to go fly to war like that.

[Drew]

No kidding. And he wrote a book just for our family. Corporal Carl Pardo. Very good. Well, on that note, we've also got another faithful listener on the podcast, Quay Pro. Good dude. Last week on the July 4th, we weren't able to read this, and he says, this is my ancestors. Private Peter Pro was a member of Captain, I think it's Nigels reading Riflemen, the first regiment to report for duty in Boston. When General Washington called for volunteers, they were dubbed by Washington himself as the first offenders of the revolution. Proud descendant here. Just wanted you and Brent know that I'm. I'm nobody, but I'm proud of my family that has fought in every conflict our nation has ever had.

[Brent]

Wow.

[Drew]

Thank you to the Pros.

[Brent]

Here's the thing, man. You're not a nobody. You're sitting here identifying the heroes in your family and making sure that their stories are heard. So when I said everybody does their part, like, I was no super, super cop. I wasn't ever the best at anything. And then I realized my. What my calling was was being a voice for law enforcement. I was best at that. I wasn't the fastest. I wasn't the best at shooting. I wasn't the best at clearing rooms, but I was good at abrasively stating the facts that need to be stated. So you're doing your part, right?

[Tyler]

That's what's crazy. You and you don't have to be the best. Actually, you really don't. You don't have to be the best. You just have to be moldable. You know, you just. You just have. You have to be a team play. There's a lot of other things that you actually bring the table without being the. You have to be good enough, but you don't have to be the best.

[Brent]

Well, good enough.

[Tyler]

The. Here's. Here's some breaking news that Nate from Valhalla just let me know. It's funny. It's funny. We talked about this. He goes, hey, just recently. He goes, I cannot find it. And because I'm telling you, it is not there. The episode with Tim Kennedy has been taken down.

[Brent]

Wait, what?

[Tyler]

He goes, there's still. He still has some shorts of. Of him talking to Tim. Because I was going to look back about the Silver Star thing of. Of Tim Kennedy. Don't worry. There's something on the Internet kind of called a time machine. So I can go back and I will still find this episode. If he said that he had a purple heart on that episode, I will find it. But it. Let's trust but verify, guys. Let me know we're working right now. Let me know if you can find the full episode on his channel of Tim Kennedy. Yes, I know there are some shorts still up from that, but it looks like the full episode's been taken down and he should take down those shorts too. It's not often I tell a man to take down his shorts.

[Drew]

All right. Says Salvador Bellona says, is TK still involved with Nick Palmiscano in Ranger up clothing line. Have you seen Dan Crenshaw shirt that shows him being wanted for insider trading?

[Brent]

Oh, that, that, that, that redrop originated here on the show is human performance.

[Drew]

Team TRT finally squared away. 75.

[Tyler]

Oh, man. Some.

[Brent]

A lot of questions.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Nick Palmish. So he's a pretty behind the scenes guy. But the fact that, that he wrote that book and that he has not come out publicly and said anything about it, I feel like says everything you need to know about Nick Palm Shano. Like, if I'd have wrote that book and Tim fed me all those lies, I'd be like, whoa, hold on, guys. I just wrote what the guy told me yeah. But since he hasn't said anything about it, something tells me he's part of the problem. And I'll tell you another reason why I know he's part of the problem. In doing some of this research. I watched the documentary. I've wasted so much time, my life watching Lies called Send Me. It's a documentary about. About those guys that Nick Palm Shano was the director of. Of the evacuation Afghanistan. I'll save you the time. Don't go watch it.

[Brent]

Gross.

[Tyler]

Nick Palm Shano. I gotta get into the next episode a little bit, but I gotta tell you, he landed on the ground, took some pictures for. For Tim Kennedy because they were writing the book at the time. So coincidentally, they were writing Scars and Stripes when the evac happened. And so they. I'm gonna paraphrase here. Race over to Afghanistan to take some. Take some photos for the book. And the. He was. He didn't even spend the night there. He was. He was there, took some pictures of Tim right back on the aircraft. And if you watch the documentary, Send Me it. He's. He's in there with several other people, but he never says, yeah, I. I was there for a couple hours, took some pictures and left. If you didn't know. He makes it sound like he was there the whole time and he's telling all these, like, emotional stories about everything he saw and everything he did. You got off, you took some fanboy photos for the book and you left. You didn't do anything, Nick. So, yeah, between him not saying anything about the book, him being very misleading, and that in that documentary, next part of the problem.

[Drew]

And it looks like the chat is saying that there are two full episodes on Saturday, Spotify with Choco and tk. Two full episodes.

[Tyler]

Forgot about Spotify. I. I don't do Spotify a whole lot. Every now and again I have. Do they have a comment section on Spotify? Does anyone. Does anyone know Spotify? No one here does Spotify. All right, if they do light up that comment section, it means something.

[Drew]

Poppy J says, thank you, gentlemen, for your actual service and sacrifices. Thank you, brother Charles. Gusher. Gusher. 30 bucks. Seen a video earlier saying to stop get firearms training from former special operations guys because they are not real shooting experts and grifters. Drifters. Thoughts? You have one on me, boys. Thank you, brother.

[Tyler]

Grifters. That's. That's. That's the word. Oh, it sounds like drifters, but yeah, it's just a. Here's the thing I hate about that. You're partially right. If you really want straight shooting experience, go to professional shooters. They're. They're better than us, General. I mean, you have people like Matt Pranka who are professional shooters and have tactical experience, but that's who we brought in in the Delta Force to teach us how to shoot and shoot better. It's professional. Rob Latham, just. Gosh, blanking on his name. Said his name earlier. Ben Stoker. Ben Stoger. These guys are great shooters, but they're not tactical shooters. They can tell you how to shoot fast. They can tell you how to shoot accurately, because that's all they do. And they're the best in the world at it. But they don't know how to apply that shooting into any situation. And if they ever tell you they do and they don't, they. I don't even have to say that they don't. They know their lane. So that's the lane the special operations guys have there. They may not be as good at them as shooting because they're not other things to do, but they're better shooters than you. I'm just not. That is not a dick thing to say. I'm just saying they're better shooters than you, so you can learn from them and they have the tactical side of it. Just be mindful of what their resume really is. And I hate to say that because then you say, well, how do I know? Because Tim sounded like he had a great resume and he's a lie.

[Brent]

And that's why.

[Tyler]

That's where it gets tough.

[Brent]

That's where. That's why it's an issue. Because people.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

And, you know, you can't just. I don't know, can't say she like that.

[Drew]

Jason Palmland says Blue on Black by FFDP is my song. Vote.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I love that. Was one of my Kid up songs. Like on the playlist in Syria. Blue on Black with Kenny. They did Blue on Black, Five Finger, Death Bunch with. So I was about to ask you because I know you love music, so that's actually a cover song. Who originally sang Blue on Black?

[Brent]

Kenny. Wayne Shepherd.

[Tyler]

Kenny the Kitty Wayne Shepherd. No.

[Brent]

Then. But Blue on Black was remade by Five Finger, and then it was remade again with Brantley Gilbert and Tony Iommi from. Oh, not Toby, the. The guitar player from Queen.

[Tyler]

Oh, really?

[Brent]

So they redid it, and it was great. And then they redid it again. Even better.

[Tyler]

Here's a problem, guys. We're on a. We're in a.

[Brent]

$20, you're gone. Somebody said slayer for 50.

[Tyler]

All right, well, someone better put Blue on Black in there for a couple more times. All right, Christo, what song sorry about for 50. Do you want what's on my Slayer? Oh, you. Okay. You got it.

[Drew]

Christo says TK Is the military. Steven Seagal. Simplify, boys. Keep up the Lord's work.

[Brent]

Gosh.

[Tyler]

Isn't that the truth? Isn't that the truth?

[Brent]

That's a good one.

[Drew]

TBD says if you listen closely, Jocko's whole character is just a Stevens. Steven Seagal impression.

[Tyler]

Not. Not far.

[Brent]

Good. When you were. When you were talking to them. I was listening to what they're talking about. Drinking bros. It's just Dan Holloway talking out of the ass about how veterans shouldn't be calling out other veterans and how if he has a problem with someone, he's going to address them in individually completely. Not like what we talked about. When somebody brings something to an arena of open people, you address them in the arena of open people.

[Tyler]

Right. You brought it to the public attention. You brought it.

[Brent]

We don't owe it to you to come to you and say that.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And, oh, by the way, Dan, because you don't know. I've talked to Tim, so you don't even. You don't even get to say that. And here's what I don't. Oh, I don't. I don't want to give you this short. I don't want to give it to you.

[Brent]

I promise I won't clip it.

[Tyler]

I. Not a fan of the guy. I'll just say that. Not a fan. I don't even know him personally. I just know what he says. And you know, and I. And I can say I know what he stands for by what he says, and for a guy that talks a lot. Is it true? Can someone verify this? Was he a commo guy?

[Brent]

I heard that.

[Tyler]

Someone told me he was a combo guy for. Yeah. Do you want what unit he was from?

[Brent]

80 seconds.

[Tyler]

And there's. At the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with being a commo guy from the 82nd.

[Brent]

You're not a shooter.

[Tyler]

But if you're a comma guy from the 82nd, then you need to weigh in on commo things from the 82nd. Okay. Or not. You need to weigh in and combo things. Okay. But can someone verify that?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Is there a way to reach out.

[Brent]

To Dan and ask.

[Tyler]

Yeah, because we can't. You know what? Guess what? I'd take you up on that, Dan. I reach out to you man to man, but you blocked us like a man.

[Brent]

Can I clip that part Is that.

[Tyler]

What you clip that part and we tag him. Oh, but we can't tag him because he blocked us like a man.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Bicorn fiber says or bicom fiber by calm. Sorry. Let's see. A lot of firing cord. All right. Extra 19 just for the Revelations pod, baby.

[Tyler]

We're doing it.

[Drew]

All right. Tyler wants Brent's tantrum. Or it should be taint, I guess. Just want you to say it. Tyler Wood, Prince Taint.

[Tyler]

Well, you got to read it the way it's spelled. Yeah.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Tyler]

You can't have it.

[Drew]

All right, let's see.

[Tyler]

Nobody wants this broken tent. I don't want it.

[Drew]

Fat boy says TK in the front. Oh, gosh, I hate. I just don't like reading these. Marcus in the back. Both giving you love like they stole your heart.

[Brent]

Hate it when they do these.

[Drew]

Do you lean forward and take Timmy or back that double wide up?

[Brent]

You gotta give it to her.

[Tyler]

Why don't you do this to us?

[Brent]

It's not. If it's gay both ways. It's like, not. That's right.

[Tyler]

Right. Yeah. You know what you're doing when you set us up with that one?

[Drew]

The answer. I'm gonna go with Nate's answer, which is? Kill yourself.

[Brent]

Says anything about this, Joe Rogan won't have. Joe Rogan. Got Liver King arrested for threatening to fight him. Joe Rogan ain't got to say anything.

[Tyler]

I hate to say this.

[Brent]

I think he's not going to talk to CK anymore, though. Am I wrong?

[Tyler]

No. Here's my guess. Here. Here's my guess.

[Brent]

You had that face like you knew something.

[Tyler]

That. Here's my guess.

[Brent]

Okay, your guess.

[Tyler]

He knows about it.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Tyler]

He knows about it. Will he stop being Tim's friend over it? No. Absolutely. Joe's too nice of a guy. He loves Timmy like he does. He wrote the Ford. I'm sure. Does he feel a little bit bamboozled? Bamboozled by it, sure. But him and he loves MMA and that and that thing so much. I don't. I don't think that's enough to break the bond. I'm sure he'll be sympathetic to it. I don't know, you know, to how much you'll be, like, you know, disappointed. Disappointed. Yeah, is what I think. I'll have that, like, fatherly disappointed thing, but won't distance himself.

[Brent]

You think he'll distance himself? Like, do you think he'll have him on anymore?

[Tyler]

Oh, there's the question. There's the question. I don't know. Can't Answer that. Yeah. Time will tell.

[Drew]

Airborne Homestead says Brent, who wins a fight? Young Ranger E5 over at 275. 175. Or good old boy Rob O' Neill, since he's worried about the Rangers.

[Tyler]

Man, Rangers are scrappy, man. I'm giving it to the Rangers all day long. Plus you didn't let me know, so I'm assuming it's the Rob o' Neill as we know it. And he's. He's too drunk to defend himself, so that ranger is gonna have a field day with him.

[Drew]

And he also says, Brent, y' all should find out who TK classmates were in Ranger school. I wonder what he told those guys.

[Tyler]

Oh, I do wonder what he tells told those guys.

[Drew]

Valhalla VFT. 20 bucks says. Good.

[Tyler]

Good.

[Drew]

B. Medic. Shout out to the absolute g ast reskin saving people down in the Texas floods. 165 saves. Oh, yeah. I saw this on the Internet on your first rescue op is unbelievable. That dude is out there doing the shite TK TK lies about.

[Tyler]

That's exactly what I thought of when. When I read that and I saw that. I'm sure. And this isn't me taking anything away. Just me just being honest about this. Did the guy save 165? I. I probably did. Like, he's. He's not. It's not him out there telling the story. Were some of them pretty boring rescues? Like, probably. In fact, the chances are were some of them pretty cool. I bet. I bet. I bet that guy's got a story to tell.

[Drew]

Yeah. I saw this something on the Internet with this, and this guy's like, if this guy ever has an argument with anybody, he wins. He sold 100. He saved 165 lives. If he has an argument with his girl girlfriend, he wins because he saved 165 lives. It's hilarious. It's hilarious.

[Tyler]

This is a probably really bad time to tell it. It's just a random thing that happened today. I said I was at a water park. Okay, let me. Let me have myself. Let me have myself aggrandizing moment here.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

It's gonna sound bad. I'm just telling you what goes through my mind. We're the deep end of the wave pool. And I'm just. I. I know it's. But I'm doing my assessment of people around me and I'm like, all right, you know, normal person. Normal person or person. 40 year old, kind of fat, out of shape, very dark skinned fella. And I'm like, I'm gonna keep an eye on you. You don't look like a swimmer.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And. And the waves start happening. And I did. I kept an eye on him. And that's. That's just going through the process. The wave started for like 30 seconds. His eyes got really big. He went down a couple times, and I'm like, like, he ain't gonna make it. He comes up, he's like, help. And goes back down. And I don't. I'm just. I'm just telling you, like, if you've ever, like, been to dive school or something, like, people do, they go down so fast, and you'll never see it. Like, it's not like this thing where they're in the water a while going, help me, help me, help me, help. They get like they're. By the time they realize they're in trouble, they send one help and they're. And they're gone. And. And. And it's a. And it's a. And it's a crowded pool. Like, that lifeguard's probably never gonna see it. And I'm like, yeah, that's what I thought. Went over there, picked the guy up, dragged him to the. To the.

[Brent]

Could you stand?

[Tyler]

I could.

[Brent]

So, okay, you're six foot.

[Tyler]

You could say, well, I. I could sit. Here's another thing that's. That thankfully, like, dive school taught me, here's. Don't ever go up to a guy drowning unless you know what you're doing, because he's either gonna drown. He's. He's gonna drown. More than likely, he's gonna drown you, and he's still gonna drown. And now to. Two people are going to die, so you better know what you're doing. You always have to go to the back of. Of someone drowning because they can't reach you from the back because they're just. They're surviving for life. They'll push you down to get their last breath of air and. And not think twice about it. Yeah. So I grabbed him from the back. I drive them, drag them up to the. And he's like, thank you. Thank you so much. I thought I was. I thought I was gone. I thought I was gone. I was like, yeah, no problem. That's what I do. Call me Tim Kennedy. What's to say?

[Brent]

You say more people than Tim Kennedy.

[Tyler]

That's right. Look at me at a water park. Look at me. Yep.

[Brent]

On a random Thursday.

[Tyler]

It's going in my book. But it's getting bigger. But it's getting bigger. I saved the whole. The whole way the whole wave pool was going down.

[Drew]

All right, sorry. This is from our biggest super chat donor, Wesley Pruitt. It says, my money for outro is on TK's career being at the cemetery gates by Pantera. That's a 200 super chat for Cemetery Gates by Pantera.

[Brent]

Are you ready? Did he email you?

[Drew]

Apparently, it's a super chat mist of some sort. I don't know.

[Brent]

All right, sounds like he gets it.

[Tyler]

We're not messing with West.

[Drew]

It's West.

[Tyler]

We're not. We're not messing with Wesley.

[Drew]

It's Wesley.

[Brent]

That's something I would say if I.

[Tyler]

You'll bite the hand that feeds you. He's feeding. He's. He's feeding us. He is.

[Drew]

Second 20 bucks. I am. BD does not have Timmy listed as a producer or an executive producer on range 15.

[Brent]

Oh, he was in it, though.

[Tyler]

He started and apparently go to his website. He starred in it.

[Brent]

No, it was a cameo. He was like a zombie.

[Tyler]

No, he starred in it. Hey, if Tim Kennedy's website says it, you could you take it to the bank?

[Drew]

Guys, Redline TV. 50 bucks. Still waiting on Tyler to text me back. Vanessa. Just kidding. Keep up the good work, especially on the HPTRT podcast. I would love to share my experience with hptrt.

[Tyler]

Oh, nice. Oh, yeah.

[Brent]

Text me again. Text me again. I'm sorry. Text me right now.

[Drew]

Dub ins. 50 bucks. Best YouTube channel out there. Thanks for doing what you do.

[Tyler]

Thank you. I thought that. I hate to say it, but I'll tell you, it's. It's not me basking in someone else's downfall. It's really not. But when we first did this story, like, do you remember? I'm sure you do. Well, you said you don't go to the comment section. I. I do. Like, on. On bigger things. Like, all the hate we got. We got a lot of. We got a lot of veteran support, but all the civilians out there that were just bashing us, being like, oh, you're just jealous. Yes. You're just jealous. How dare you do this to him? You know, you're just the same old stuff, like, you're tearing down vets, this, that, this, that. Eight months later, we're here, and almost. And almost no one can defend them. And who. And nothing we said have we had to come back and be like, okay, we were right about most things, but. But this we were wrong about. We've had to say sorry to no one. And it feels good. I mean, it was. You know, it was a lot of work. On our part. And it feels. Feels good. Can't act like it doesn't.

[Drew]

Jefferson newbie. 50 bucks says he served from 98 to 20.

[Tyler]

20.

[Drew]

18 out of my 22 years. Was at Bragg, Brent. We probably chewed some of the same dirt.

[Tyler]

I'm sure we did.

[Drew]

You guys are crushing it. Can't stand phonies. Be proud of what you did and move on.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Drew]

RR does stuff. What is no bullshite story with Shrek?

[Tyler]

I'm waiting for him to release his book so I can tell you what the no story is with Shrek.

[Brent]

I guarantee you he's probably, like, called his editor and been like, hold on. Deadline, where we're rewriting everything.

[Tyler]

I'm good with where I'm at. You know, I've only done podcasts. They. They only see. They only go after. They hate the books. They hate the books. Stop the book and I'll be okay.

[Brent]

Where I prude it.

[Tyler]

I did see that. He's got a famous girlfriend now. He's got a famous, rich girlfriend. Yeah, the girlfriend's ex husband is in prison for seven years. Oh, look at him. Look at him doing a singleton mission. Sneaking up on that.

[Drew]

It's not 20 bucks, but it's pretty relevant at Valhalla VFT. Looks like Jocko episode 340 is still on Apple podcasts.

[Tyler]

Yep. And I think they're talking about YouTube. So hopefully Jocko has some extreme ownership and just is slowly getting to the rest of them.

[Brent]

Got it.

[Drew]

Ross Dodson says night shift Sergeant for a PD in Texas.

[Tyler]

Thank you, sir.

[Drew]

Love the show. 20 bucks for blue on black.

[Tyler]

Oh, all right. Might be a twofer here. What I say if he gets over 50, we'll always play the other song. I made a ridiculous statement.

[Brent]

I think we should play the top two at least.

[Tyler]

Top two at least. Sure.

[Drew]

See, grip your.

[Brent]

There's something about Drew reading these, like, while he's trying to be cautious, but.

[Tyler]

He still says it.

[Drew]

Doing my best. All right, 100 bucks. 100 bucks. Thanks, brother. Hey, I was curious on Tyrone and Bartholomew's take on Letter of the Law verse. Spirit of the Law when interacting with everyday calls and what your opinions are on officers in both camps. Been watching a long time. Finally able to show my appreciation, so thanks.

[Brent]

Can you read the second part?

[Drew]

So your takes on Letter of the Law versus Spirit of the Law when interacting with everyday calls, that's some philosophy.

[Brent]

When it comes to law enforcement. But I think. And I've heard that he's not wrong. I'm just. And I don't but spirit of law, I mean, I'm assuming he means, like, it's the way it's written. Does everybody. Does it have.

[Tyler]

I'm trying to think of a good example. I run across this a lot, and I'm like, well, the spirit of law, actually, because that's the exact terminology I use. I'm trying to think of a good example of that, and I can't think right top ahead.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I use that all the time to justify things I wanted to do in the Delta Force and be like, well, that is the letter of the law. But that's not. The spirit of law is real. It's not really their. You know, their. Their intent.

[Drew]

So I guess to get the spirit of the law, the question here on the second part says what your opinions are on officers in both camps. So you're gonna have an officer that is very. This is the law is the way it is. Sorry for you.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And then other officers that are like, well, you know, I couldn't.

[Brent]

I could not write. I. I couldn't in good faith write you a speeding ticket, because that's beating. I don't know how cops write. I just never understood that. I've never understood that. I've only written probably two speeding tickets. And I was in training and they forced me to. I don't understand how some cops can write speeding tickets when they speed themselves.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

So, I mean, unless they drive the speed limit.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

Every day of their lives and maybe. But, you know, that's one of those things, I guess, you know.

[Drew]

All right. 85 mini me says TK got his PP slapped for the bus incident and had the Drinking Bros. Podcast crap on the 82nd BDE. CDR by name. Colonel Kleisner is a solid leader and deserves an apology. Tom Hawks.

[Brent]

There's a lot in that message.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Gerhardt, 50 bucks sent a hundred dollars super earlier, but changing my song to Blue on Black.

[Brent]

Changing myself.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Brent]

Hey, no one's making me sing anything. I'm grateful.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Hey, you gotta donate, like, 250 bucks.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. They're out of reach. You're safe.

[Brent]

I feel like you're safe now.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Chuck Loaner, 50 bucks. Message retracted.

[Tyler]

It the second was.

[Drew]

That's never happened for us.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

20 bucks. Ricky Rasta says shouts out to Brent, one of the few guys that makes brutal honesty hilariously funny. Blue on Black has my vote for 20 bucks. Peace, bros. Keep up the good work.

[Tyler]

I appreciate that. It's a fine line. It really is. I'm sure. I've been on Both sides of the line. But I try to walk it correctly.

[Drew]

Our boy Kane Corsov is back in. I don't want to gas you guys up too much, but Proverbs says the wicked flee when no man pursue it. But the righteous are bold as lion. Who does that sound like?

[Tyler]

That's a great verse for that.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Chuck Loner. Cemetery Gates for the win, boys. That's 20 bucks for cemetery gates. TK is what we called in the late 80s and 90s a poser. Love it, man.

[Tyler]

Again.

[Drew]

Right?

[Tyler]

Another message retracted.

[Drew]

All right, we got all the $20 and up.

[Brent]

Okay, so start going back red.

[Tyler]

All right, going backwards.

[Drew]

Brick. And spoiler. Love the work. When's the Shrek shite bomb gonna drop? Lol. Big fan, boys.

[Brent]

Oh, a couple more just came in.

[Drew]

Airborne. Homestead says TK is blacklisted from flying on 160th. Birds and Brent, you guys gotta get the pilots from Neptune spear mission.

[Tyler]

That would. That would be good interviews, like from the pilots perspective. They got to be retired by now.

[Drew]

Our boy, Wesley Pruitt.

[Tyler]

Whoa.

[Drew]

100 bucks back in again. I know Kenny Wayne shepherd, he is an awesome dude, but blue on black. Not same league as Cemetery Gates.

[Tyler]

So that.

[Brent]

Is that a vote?

[Drew]

I'm gonna say it's a hundred dollars for Cemetery Gates. Okay.

[Tyler]

Absolutely.

[Drew]

We're gonna do that for Wesley.

[Tyler]

Are you ready for me to. It's. We're getting a little late here. Something I. I said I wanted to talk about. We'll give us a chance to get some. A couple more super chats to come in. But the Epstein list. And I'm just trying to take a logical view on this, and I'm gonna have to do some research. I just. I thought about this too late to really dig into it. So. Yes, I know everyone is upset about the Epstein list. Here's my. Here's my honest question. And it might be out there. And so it is. Honest question. I feel like, well, who said there was an Epstein list out there? Is this. Is this something that happened where we assumed there was one? We started talking about an Epstein list, and it grew legs. And for gosh, how many years now, for years, we've just been talking about Epstein List, Epstein List, Epstein List, Epstein list. It's an honest question. Do we know that there was one? So if we know everyone should be upset about this, but if this is just something that has been created, like a narrative that's been created and we never even knew there was one, I mean, I would. Then how do we just to finish like, the thought, if we can't verify that or, like, where it came from and we knew there was one, who are we to be outraged by? And maybe they're right that there is no Epstein list. It's. It's. It's an honest. Like, just take a step back and look at it.

[Brent]

Well, I would take every news anchor for the last two years saying there's an Epstein list. Enough to say there's an Epstein list. I mean, unless everybody was wrong.

[Tyler]

But, like, is this. I guess. And now to put it in a much shorter version, is this circular reporting? I don't. I don't know. I got to look into this.

[Brent]

Like, it's like someone said it.

[Tyler]

Someone. Everybody saying it, saying that, oh, there should be a list out there. It's just an honest question I have now that, like, we're kind of that. That they say now that, all right here. Here's just like, me looking Cash Patel wanted there to be one. Like, he did. He was like, Bongino wanted there to be an Epstein list. These guys are in charge now. So either there's. So only two things can happen, and now these guys are in charge. Either they found out, like, oh, we realize their circular reporting, and now that we're in charge with, there is none. So you're either mad at them that there really is none of that circular reporting, or they've become part of the swamp. And I just don't necessarily want to believe that they just became part of the swamp now that they're in. In power. Because these guys were super vocal about, get me in there, I'll release it. Get me in there, I'll release it. There's a bunch of people like Trump and like, the press secretary that were all. That were all like, yeah, we will release it. And when these guys are all saying, I'm sorry, like, we're in charge now, and there's not one. Only two things can happen there. Either really isn't one, and people don't want to believe it, or everybody's now just part of the swamp. And I said earlier, you guys aren't gonna like my take on this. And I'm not saying that that's my take. It's just. It's my honest question.

[Brent]

It's his take, if you agree with him. I think. I mean, what Eddie said. Eddie. Eddie Gallagher was on here a couple weeks ago, and he said the politics is disgusting and gross and everything. You've got to play dirty games, and everyone's got dirt on each other. And I don't Try. As soon as someone's appointed, they're. They're a politician in my eyes, or they're a puppet of a politician. So, I mean.

[Tyler]

And I'm glad I got to sit. And one of the reasons I really wanted to say this out loud and put this out like this, because I can do as much research I have with limited resources, and I hope there's 20, 600 people out there. And like I said before, like the tens of thousands that'll watch this later that'll. That'll help me and be like, hey, this. Yes, that. That's your question. Here's the answer to that. What do you got? So the. Right. Right into the mic.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, lean over the Attorney General.

[Tyler]

General Pam Bondi, right. She's. It's sitting on her desk and she's reviewing it. Right? Nothing after. Yes, so it's sitting. Hold on, hold on. Yeah, but she clarified that. And she did. And so what she said. And I know that's misleading, but I. I'm not upset with her answer that. A lot of people are. She said that. It's sitting on my desk. What she was talking about. Because she clarified this. She's saying, I didn't say the Epstein list was sitting on my desk. She said the Epstein files.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Were sitting on my desk, so it's safe. I'm just.

[Brent]

Of course, when someone says, you better shut the.

[Tyler]

I'm just playing devil's after of sorts right now. She. She said the. She. What she meant by that the files were on my desk, and she assumed that when she looked into the files, there would be an Epstein list and she would release it. But when she looked into the files, there was no Epstein list. And that's. And that's what she said.

[Brent]

Okay, so what about this? Why would Epstein kill himself?

[Tyler]

That's.

[Brent]

But if there's no. If there's no list because his life is over. Well, if there's no list, that means there's no charges.

[Tyler]

Well, there's. There's. Well, I don't think that necessarily mean that because they could still get them on the trafficking, even if they don't have. Right? I mean, just. I mean, Giselle Maxwell's in. Is in prison for. For sex trafficking. Like his. His. His life as he knows it is. Is over. But I don't. I don't. I'm not.

[Brent]

Oh, so you're. You're a believer that he killed himself?

[Tyler]

No, no. Don't you do that to me. Don't you. Don't you do that to me.

[Brent]

I checked all y', all, but what.

[Tyler]

I'm saying is I. I think that's a little bit of a, you know, of a straw man argument that I don't believe. Like. Like the one necessarily has anything to do with. With the other. You know, there's. There could be a ton of reasons, like an Epstein list and lists only to say, like, that's the only reason he could have killed himself. That's. You know, that's. That really has nothing to do with. With. With my question, like, how do we know there was even an epc?

[Brent]

But his death is very. It correlates directly with this. Because if he killed himself, you have a valid argument. There was more things. The trafficking charges, all this stuff. If he didn't kill himself, which a lot of people believe he did not kill himself, then that means that you're not going to ever get a list that he had.

[Tyler]

But. But then you're just saying, never gonna get a list that we had. My question is, where. Why did we ever believe that there was an actual list to begin with? Here's a. I'm not saying there's not. Like, I'm like. I'm just like, I want to know.

[Brent]

I think it's because everybody said there was wizard list, and I'm.

[Tyler]

And that's the circular. That's a circular reporting that I'm talking about. But I don't know, like. Like someone might come up here, like, well, I'm glad you asked, Brent. Like, here's the. Here's why everyone thought that. And I'll go, oh, okay. I didn't know. I mean, it could just be an kind of intuitive leap, almost. Like, let's say you. You think that, okay, this guy's been doing this for so long, we have what amounts to a lot of circumstantial evidence, and then suddenly everybody's like, well, he's a rich guy. These rich guys like to keep track of everything. What better way to curry power? He's got to have a list. Right? I mean, it makes sense. Some assumptions, some. Some logical assumptions going. Yeah. And that's where I'm like, but a guest list.

[Drew]

It's a flight log.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And that's where I'm saying, like, you.

[Brent]

Know, everybody's like, oh, there's always a guess. There's always a guest list, baby.

[Tyler]

And that's where everybody's like, what was.

[Brent]

True was that I learned this today from my wife's podcast, is that there was flight manifests that were put out, but that doesn't mean Anything that just means people took flights to the island.

[Tyler]

Yeah, right. You beat me to that. Like, it goes back to, like, the devil's advocate thing. Like, and I hate to say it, young girls. Just because he has a guest list that came to the house. People came. Not everyone that came to the house was looking for young girls to, you know, to have sex with everyone that flew on his plane. Doesn't make everyone that flew on that plane a pedophile. Like, he had legitimate business. He had legitimate relationships to be on that manifest. No kidding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not good if you're on it. Like, but, but, like, but, but when, but everyone assumes, like, when we talk about the list, like, we're talking about this, like, black book list of. These are all the powerful people that I supply underage women to. Let's be honest. Like, that's what. That's what everyone believes the list to be. And my question is, just now, for a second, all these people are saying, well, there is no list going well. Well, maybe there isn't. Like, how. Why did we ever believe there was this. This scandalous list of powerful people that were only on this list to sleep with underage women? It's just a question I have. Don't, Don't. Don't hate me for having debate.

[Brent]

You on fumes. Just. Yeah, I have no idea. I don't follow.

[Tyler]

I get it. I get it. Super chats. Help me out.

[Drew]

I think there's a reasonable explanation. All right? And if there's. I think there. There is. If there is a list, they said it. Because they said there's a list. If there's not a list now, or they're saying there's not a list now, it might be strategic by the Department of Justice. They're not going to come out with the list. If the Department of Justice is doing investigation on people, the last thing they're going to do is give the list so that the people who are on the list goes, oh, we gotta, you.

[Brent]

Know, take care, and I will. I will seal Drew's deal with the. The idea in law enforcement. So that's way of work. Did you know that if you're a cop and they open an internal affairs case against you or on you, but the case's integrity could be jeopardized with you having knowledge of it. They don't have to tell you ask me how I know. So, I mean, yes, that. That whole concept shifts from such a small minute thing to if, if. Why would. It's like. It's like Obama Saying we're going to do airstrikes, like, shut the fuck up. Why would you say that on national news?

[Tyler]

And this goes back to my point a little bit. Trump is either that guy or he's not. You know, Cash Patel is either that guy or he's not. You know what I mean? Like, Trump either has a big mouth that, that he can't shut up or he's not. You don't think he'd have told Elon, hey, check it out here. I know the, the Epstein list. And, And Elon's not going to come out and be like, they can say whatever they want. I saw it. Trump showed me that guy loves nothing more than the flaunt things that he knows. And if. And he loves nothing more than to expose people and be like, I was right the whole time. So if he says there isn't one, he's. He's. He's either narcissistic enough to want to prove that, like, hey, I got this done when no one else could, or, or he's.

[Brent]

Did he want to say there wasn't?

[Tyler]

Not that I know. I don't. Not that I know of. Not that I know of. I don't. I don't follow him. He was protecting the victim.

[Brent]

So. But that's what people say. We don't need to know the victim.

[Tyler]

That's right. But there's a list right on that side. He has to, like, what do you want to say? I was gonna say Trump also gave Iran a time period. He did. Bombed him the next day so he could do. But we know about that. I put that on the podcast two, two or three weeks ago when it happened.

[Brent]

But you're saying. You're saying the list could drop tomorrow?

[Tyler]

Hopefully. Hopefully.

[Brent]

I'm gonna direct message it to you on every platform.

[Tyler]

Even though I just said all that, I still hope there's a list and I hope what everyone's saying is right and gets dropped. But yeah, I'm just saying, like, we got to take if. If we have to take from face value what. What we know today. That's a little bit of my take on it. A little bit of my take on it.

[Brent]

I wonder stuff like that, too. Are we all sheep where we just heard one thing in an echo chamber.

[Tyler]

And now it's, yeah. Also, I mean, maybe there was a list, but with the amount of people that have gone through that case, with the amount of things that have happened, who says the list wasn't dismantled, already.

[Brent]

Deleted, I mean, destroyed?

[Tyler]

There is no list. And that's Right. That could totally be a thing too. Like, hey, there might have been a list. You know what, for six months and now. Right. You know what? I'll. I'll get. I'll. I'll entertain that. Like, what's to say we're talking A and B right now? What's to say? See, that when this first started, there were people in charge that we didn't trust and that there was a list, but there isn't a list now. That could very. That could very well be true.

[Brent]

Yeah, I like Drew's. And I like that one too.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I like. I like that one. Okay, I'll give you.

[Brent]

You know what, Brett, I like yours too.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Brent]

Just because it's. It's so non. Conspiracy.

[Tyler]

I know, but it's a good one. But, yeah, circular thing.

[Drew]

Boring.

[Tyler]

There's. There's. I always got. I always gotta plug this one in. There is a time everyone thought Nickelback sucked, but no one could prove it. It was just circular reporting that Nickelback sucks. Shocked. And so someone was like, hold on. Why does.

[Brent]

Why are we all saying this?

[Tyler]

Why are we all saying this? Nickelback doesn't suck. Nickelback's great. And we. And we broke the chain.

[Brent]

It's true.

[Tyler]

We did.

[Brent]

We finally, as a society, corrected that.

[Tyler]

That's right. They're back. They're cool again.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

Shut your mouth back. You'd love that.

[Brent]

Nickelback are going to a show tomorrow night at the Conduit in Orlando.

[Tyler]

You can't do it.

[Brent]

You can. Oh, maybe that's what. No. Oh, no. Conduit's a real word. Damn it.

[Tyler]

I was like, music broke it.

[Drew]

Let's see.

[Tyler]

Did you.

[Drew]

Did I already say. Any chance y' all can get Brad Thomas and or Chris Von Sant on the show? Vote for cemetery gate. 20 bucks.

[Tyler]

There it is again. They're both. They're both on there. Yes, we do. I need. I do need to reach out to those guys again. You cursed me with that.

[Brent]

I got it. I got it. I'll hold the show.

[Drew]

All right. Redline TV. 50 bucks says Tyler. It's the gray area or destroyer. Discretion of law enforcement. It's one of the first things in a CJ degree you learn. This is in response to what the law says and what the officer sees.

[Brent]

Hey, you wonder why I don't answer your text? Because you're condescending. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. No, I mean, I. I got my criminal justice degree in 2006. 2006, 2007. Before I deployed to Iraq, so it's been a minute. It's been 20 years. Heck yeah.

[Drew]

If you don't lose. If you don't use it, you lose it kind of thing. All right, Chuck Loaner. 50 bucks. Gents. I was a USAF cop for 23 years and did way more time downrange and OTW ops than TK. Does that mean I'm a coalition asset?

[Brent]

Yes, Good buddy.

[Drew]

Rifleman says. Brent. I heard a rumor on brag back in 2016 or 17 that some Cav scout is for you. Brent. Cav scout tried stalking up to the CAG compound in a ghillie suit and immediately got caught. Tyler. I was an 82nd 1P Scouts, then Red Devils as a TL.

[Brent]

Oh, nice.

[Tyler]

I haven't. I haven't heard. Heard that story. But there's. There's a lot of stories of guys trying to just get up close to the. To the perimeter or the gate out of curiosity and getting caught.

[Brent]

It's like Area 51.

[Tyler]

It is. It really is legendary.

[Drew]

And see TG Paris says legendary history show. Colonel David Hack Werther joined as a 15 year old orphan combat commission in Korea. Led a raider PLT. Actually successful BN commander in Vietnam. Three DM the bunch of letters and numbers. His book about faith.

[Tyler]

Three distinguish just DSMs, not the. That would be a DSC. DSM. DSM. Distinguished Service Metal.

[Brent]

Service Metal, Yeah.

[Tyler]

Isn't that the Distinguished Service Cross though? Is that. You know. Yeah. Now I feel bad because someone's gonna tell me I'm an idiot. Eight Purple Hearts, ten SSMs.

[Drew]

Star Metals.

[Tyler]

Oh gosh. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Silver Star medal. There you go. Ten Silver Star medals. Give me a second. Go back to that. Colonel Hackworth joined a 15 year old combat Combat commission in Korea. All right, you messing with me? Give me a second.

[Drew]

David David Hack Worth.

[Tyler]

Heck Worth.

[Drew]

I don't know if that's the real name. There it is.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

Worth Earth.

[Tyler]

All right. Korea. I'm.

[Drew]

Put that on a name badge.

[Tyler]

Okay. Okay.

[Drew]

Zubat says do think Israel is blackmailing our US politicians with the Epstein list or file. Why would Israel be involved in that?

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Drew]

There's a bunch of people in the super chat saying Israel's behind it. Israel's behind it. What does Israel have to do with the Epstein?

[Tyler]

I know. I gotta go back. Go back to circular reporting like with Israel thing. Like you, you better like like you can't just like we can't do that. We can't just like throw things out there. Like you have to have some Something on that. Go ahead.

[Brent]

Some evidence.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

That's a claim. You have to have support for your claim.

[Brent]

I said it, right? If it's not Joe Rogan, it's pretty much.

[Drew]

Is it. Is it just because Epstein is a. Is a Jewish name.

[Brent]

Is it?

[Drew]

I'm pretty sure Epstein is probably. Yeah, yeah, it's a. I think a.

[Tyler]

A Jewish name sounds. Sounds like.

[Brent]

Sounds good. We'll. We'll run.

[Tyler]

We'll run with it. Yeah, you know what? Never mind. We don't need credit. We don't need. We don't need evidence or anything. Just run with it.

[Drew]

The nation of Israel is behind every person who has a Jewish name.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

All right. 20 bucks on this one. I want to see the evidence. Custody receipts from the search warrant on his NYC apartment.

[Tyler]

There you go. Goes back to what he said and that and that. So. Which is a good point. Like, so at the end of the day, you should. If that happened, you should be able to. To figure it out. Like, when was it actually there? When did it disappear?

[Brent]

Yeah. Chain of custody.

[Tyler]

Chain of custody.

[Drew]

Megan Kidder says, hey, from Alaska. I love the show. I appreciate your honest, practical views on things and ability to play devil's advocate.

[Tyler]

Megan, we just want to. Is that a truth? Thursday's for the boys. What are you doing?

[Drew]

Oh, man.

[Tyler]

Is that a girl? Gross. Weren't you looking for a girl to give away perfume to Veteran?

[Brent]

I messed that whole thing. It was your fault. If we had. We had. We had cologne donated to us. I'm forgetting the name. And it was. They was donated to us to give as a giveaway.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

And I had it set to give away on Thursday. And Brunt goes, oh, this is perfume. And he smelled it. And I go, oh, okay. So I gave it. I had to redo the video and gave it away, and I had to pick a chick because it was a perfume. And then the owner called or texted us and goes, that was definitely a cologne that you just gave. So they righted the ship and they said, just send us her address and we'll send her perfume.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay. Okay. She got classy. All right.

[Drew]

That's funny. You want to see the.

[Tyler]

The medals?

[Drew]

David Hackworth.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. This is sick. Okay.

[Drew]

Two Distinguished Service Cross sitting that microphone, baby brother Mike.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Drew]

2 Distinguished Service Crosses, 10 Silver Stars, 4 Legion of Merit, Distinguished Flying Crosses, 8 BSM with V's, 8 Purple Hearts, 34 Air Metals with V. Holy. 4 Army Commendation Medals with V, all.

[Tyler]

In Korea and that. The Korean War? No, Vietnam. It's Vietnam.

[Drew]

Youngest U. S. Colonel in Vietnam at the time of his promotion.

[Tyler]

Oh, you kidding me? I have. Yeah. Now I am intrigued. I told you. I got a. I traveled to Minneapolis. I was on Ethan's podcast that. The silver star winner that we had on the. The episode.

[Brent]

Did you physically go there?

[Tyler]

Yeah, physically went there. Quick trip, like, left at. At night. Did the four hour podcast. The morning on a plane in the afternoon. Yeah, real quick. But I got on this, this podcast, and it's called the king of stolen valor. And I was like, oh, no. Someone else did a podcast on Tim Kennedy. And it's not. It's a crazy, crazy story about a guy named Jack Edema. I D E M a. And it's a crazy story. And what's funny is. And I won't put this on Tim, besides all the drug use and everything, like, when you watch it, you know, from a guy who, like, did the Tim Kennedy story, like, the. There's a lot of parallels because now we get to know. Because that story's over with, like, the why and like, and, and. And the things he. He did. And I was like, oh, my gosh, this guy is. It's like, like Tim Kennedy's long lost dad almost said dad, because I don't want to do that to Tim Kennedy's dad. I heard he's a really nice guy and, and, and he was. And he really did, you know, do good things. I don't know if he stole. What's his. What's the drug lord's name? Josh. What's that? Yeah, but the drug lord's name.

[Brent]

Escobar.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I don't know if he stole Escobar's plane, but I'm sure he had a whole. I mean, he had a whole career in law enforcement, so I'm sure he. I'm sure he did good things. But anyway, it's a crazy story. This was, like, during the 80s when soldier Fortune was a big deal. He actually, like, was a green beret, but I got to make sure that's even true. But he definitely went to special forces. Q course. And then he created this Persona of him being, like, doing all these black ops. I can't tell you, wink, wink. And then when September 11th kicked off, he went to Afghanistan as a civilian and created, like, his, his own, like, little personal force. And he was charging. He was charging journals, journalists, like, hey, you want to go to Torah boards? Going on right now. I'll. I'll charge you a thousand dollars ahead to make sure you can get front seats at the show. But anyway, I like it.

[Brent]

I like the Hustle.

[Tyler]

Crazy story. It's the. And he was just the biggest BSer and everyone knew it of source and hated him. And he had some highs that he actually got it across a couple times. He had some lows where he was found out and even jailed for it. But anyway, Crazy story got away with.

[Brent]

A lot because there was no Internet back then.

[Tyler]

Exactly. Exactly. Jack Edema. That's called the. Make sure. It's called the king of stolen valor. Crazy story. Crazy story.

[Drew]

All right, let's see. We got the original list was the flight logs. The first person to mention Epstein didn't kill himself was Mike Ritlin on Jesse Waters. Being facetious.

[Tyler]

Being facetious. Old mag. Well, Mike Ritland. How is this podcast called something? Mike, Open mic or mic drop? Mic drop.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Mic drop.

[Brent]

You ever gonna go on that? Remember that?

[Tyler]

I do remember that.

[Brent]

I got a little rub the wrong way.

[Tyler]

I was. I don't want. I don't mean this like, in the wrong way or like, to pretend like I'm any bigger than I am, but when I found out that, you know, he asked me to come on the show and I said, yeah, sure, I'll come on the show. And then I found out, like, he wanted me to pay my. Like, by my own airfare, my own hotel. Like, don't, you know, I'm not looking for, like, guest fee, like, or anything like that, but if you want me to take. Take time out of, like, we did that for Pete Blaber. We do that for a lot of our guests. It's why we complain about our sponsors and ads all you want. Like, how do you think this happens? You know, because we pay for. You know, we don't pay them, but.

[Brent]

They go, hey, I fly first class, okay? I need three days to recoup, so I need a day to fly in a hotel. Like, you have to say yes or you can't have mine.

[Tyler]

We don't pay them. But. But we pay them, you know, of sorts.

[Brent]

We compensate them.

[Tyler]

So I just. I just. I thought it was a little insulting that you're gonna make money off my episode. You're not at least gonna pay for my. And I don't need a first class ticket. It wasn't a. Don't give it. It wasn't the first class ticket. I will fly in the back by. By. By the toilet, all red skittles in.

[Brent]

A bowl waiting for me.

[Tyler]

I have no requests other than you.

[Brent]

Limo at exactly 73 degrees.

[Tyler]

You could put me on a spirit Airlines flight. I just don't care. But I just think you should.

[Brent]

Well, they should let you pick your own flight. And then they bought.

[Tyler]

But it didn't happen. And that's not. My gosh, someone's gonna clip this and be like, ah. Brent's talking about how cheap Mike Ritland is.

[Brent]

That was.

[Tyler]

It was a long time ago. It was just. It was probably a miscommunication, you know, to. To be honest with you. And we just never rescheduled.

[Brent]

That was years ago. It was over a year.

[Tyler]

It was a year ago probably. Yeah.

[Drew]

Mitch says Brent, I've been saying this. Either it was destroyed, it was a psyops psyop, or it never existed. The whole case has become a snowball and I think they wanted it to. In my opinion. I think positive. Now people are pissed because they wasted years being invested.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's. And that's where. That's where now my focus is in a weird way just. Did it exist? That's a weird question. But I wonder did. How do we know it even existed? I want to know.

[Brent]

I'm alarmed our AC is not on right now.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Do the feel like it the bottom.

[Brent]

It's a scary sound.

[Drew]

Twice.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we already replaced this one once.

[Drew]

John for two bucks says Epstein works for Israel. Israel owns the USA again. That's a claim you got small.

[Tyler]

One of the smallest countries in the world owns.

[Brent]

You're not going to get any conspiracy. Just don't even try.

[Drew]

You have to bring support for claims. All right. Element 212 says will nick Lavery be on on at some point. Watched him on Sean Ryan. His story is wild. Would be great to see.

[Tyler]

That is.

[Drew]

I'll reach out to Nick Joshua Snodgrass, you should have Mark Bashaw on only service member courts marshaled court martialed for Covid mandate and pardoned by.

[Tyler]

Oh, okay.

[Drew]

Peter Almo says guys, trying to remember blabbers key point on Chapman.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

Did he say the helo pilot on the mission saw the guy who was supposed to be the resuscitated Chapman shoot him in the helmet? Blabber seems sure Chapman was dead.

[Tyler]

Yes, blabber is. I'm just speaking for blabber but. But this I'm sure of what blabber said because Pete Blaber.

[Brent]

Oh.

[Drew]

Oh, blabber. My bad.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're good.

[Drew]

Sorry Pete.

[Tyler]

Pete blaber is certain that. That Chapman was dead. And. And the I almost say like, almost like joke he made that the pilot made was that pilot got shot up by the guy that was that was in. That was in the. In the place that Chapman was supposed to be. So either it's. It's kind of a joke proving his point. Either Chapman shot up the helicopter, including hit. Like shooting it went through the windshield and hit the pilot, or more than likely because Chapman wouldn't have done that. He's just proving a point that that was still held by an enemy position. And it was. What do you call that? He called him red or the red fighter or something like that.

[Brent]

That he's called him red.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that was him. He's basically proving a point. So he's not saying Chapman actually did it. He's saying. So at this point, only two people could have done it. Either an enemy combatant that was there or Chapman. And it wasn't obviously Chapman. So it's what. It's the point he's trying to make.

[Drew]

All right, John's back in. Says Israel did 9, 11 Google dancing Israelis.

[Tyler]

If I have to talk about the dancing Israeli stupid thing one more time. Keep it going.

[Drew]

Good. Good claim. Good claim. Bring some receipts. The John Howard show says the dude on this. Oh, man, we lost her couch camera. The dude on the left is on the sofa. Back left is hot.

[Tyler]

Oh, capital H. That's you.

[Drew]

Even the John Howard show.

[Tyler]

That's gotta be him.

[Drew]

Do you know?

[Tyler]

It's gotta be. There we go.

[Drew]

There it is.

[Tyler]

No, just. Just. Just zoom in on Ethan. We'll get. We'll get. We'll hope. Megan, give us another super chat if you want to see Ethan take his shirt off.

[Drew]

Magnet hopes you do all right. He doesn't pay attention. Wake up, Magnet.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Magnet jokes are always a lot of super chat, but Magnet jokes are even funnier to me.

[Drew]

For some reason, Hard stuck says, how do guys sell their. Is it night goggles? And what is that? Brent, read the Dan Ring that. Read the dang thing for me, Brett.

[Tyler]

The in galls like their. Their IR pointer. If. If you will, laser. They're lasers.

[Drew]

Keep reading it.

[Tyler]

Or they're AO. AOR1. Which is. Which is A. A like A. It's only a camouflage design. JPCS, which is your jump plate carrier. Plate carrier. Is that stuff serialized? No, it's not. Well, hold on. The JPC is not serialized. Your ingall absolutely is serialized. They're not selling their ingalls. They're not. If. Oh, let me. Let me take a step back. If they're selling their in galls, they. They got those more than likely from a partner force that. That even though it's serialized and still could be traced back. If it's got a serial number on it, it can get traced back to where it originally was. So even if they're selling their partner force, I've seen God. Oh, gosh. No one that I know, we'll just talk about, like other people in the military, like Grab NVGs they thought were off the books. Let me tell you, those NVGs were still on the books, and we had to get those NVGs back because we knew exactly where. Where they were assigned to. We may not know the little brown guy they were assigned to, but we know the camp or base or someone assigned for all those. Sorry, it. It was a pretty detailed rant for $5, but there you go.

[Drew]

Kendall says Mike could afford to fly you out. I pay nearly 100 for dog food from his company a month. Added up times that by ex customers. Well, Brent and I, we used to sell dog food. That's right. When we were kids. And there's not a lot of money in it, especially if you're shipping it.

[Tyler]

Here's. Let me give you another view of that, Drew. When. When we were selling dog food at the feed store, the high end brands were still going for what, 40 bucks?

[Drew]

Yeah, and that was ridiculous.

[Tyler]

So even if there's, you know, 15, 17% on 40, now that's that. That 15% on $100. Dog food is what. Is what some of those bags are costing now. Yeah. Now, it used to be only a couple dollars. You could make a bag. Now there's 20 bucks almost in that bag of dog food.

[Drew]

Crazy nerd Max says might have missed it. Any chance getting former chief of U.S. cAP Police on the show Steve Sundance?

[Tyler]

No, I don't know who that is.

[Drew]

Former chief of U.S. capitol Police.

[Tyler]

Was he the chief during the January 6th? Must be events.

[Drew]

Must be it. All right. President Sundowner says talk about it, Bunt. I dare you.

[Tyler]

What? What do you want me to talk about? Yeah, was it. What did he have a. A previous one that I don't know.

[Drew]

President Sundowner.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

Sorry.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Drew]

$99 is Elias Luna says will you check out Maxwell's case and what was sealed in my lmk. Forget.

[Tyler]

Let me know.

[Drew]

Let me know what y' all think. There it is. Thank you. Maxwell's case. All right, check it out. John Howard show Ethan shirt off for 10 bucks. Oh, for 10 bucks.

[Tyler]

Ethan. What? What's the number? What's the number, buddy?

[Brent]

Yeah. What's it gonna take?

[Tyler]

50 bucks.

[Drew]

50 bucks? 50 dogs.

[Brent]

Ethan will take it off.

[Drew]

50 bucks.

[Tyler]

Hold on.

[Drew]

See this?

[Tyler]

Because he wasn't very specific with his contract. We're $10 into it. We only need 40 more, so. No, we're only 40 away.

[Drew]

That's it.

[Brent]

John's about to drop 40 bucks.

[Drew]

All right, let's see. Evil Abe Lincoln. Dang. Just saw Drew, and it turns out he's just Brent with less stress lines.

[Tyler]

They're always so harsh on me on. On that.

[Brent]

Oh, you don't get half of what.

[Tyler]

I get when it comes to being Drew. Drew gets. Drew gets all the positivity.

[Brent]

He does.

[Tyler]

But, yeah, they love. They do.

[Drew]

That's because people are too nice to call fat people fat.

[Brent]

Drew secured his job here forever. We would lose half the audience. Drew would be like, I'm leaving for my own show.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Taking half these guys with.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Scooby Doo says Mossad messing with the lie live for everyone for talking about Israel.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. They cut off the camera.

[Drew]

All right. Benjamin Lillabridge says 50 bucks, man. Thank you very much. Attorney Alexander Acosta, who was attorney in Epstein's original case and served in Trump's cabinet, said Epstein was intelligence. People guess Mossad, not CIA. Regardless, Epstein didn't do time for original sex trafficking case back then. Why?

[Brent]

Okay, so I will say that we're. We're not as privy to the information that you guys have about Israel's involvement in this. I, I. Tonight's the first. Other than the Joe Rogan clip, it's the first time I've ever heard this.

[Tyler]

I, I will say I, I shoot straight. I mean, I hope I do. So I'm, I'm probably gonna throw you guys for a loop here for a second. So said that Epstein was intelligence, and if he was Jewish, I'm telling you, it would not be a far stretch that he was intelligence working for Israel. Israeli. Israeli intelligence. But it, it isn't just Israeli. Like, people don't understand this. Everybody spies on everybody. Yes, I know for a fact Israel's Israelis have been caught spying on us. But guess what? So if the French caught red handed, they're trying to take. Oh, we'll just say caught red handed in Syria. The.

[Brent]

Canada.

[Tyler]

Canada was. Was caught trying to get information on our soldiers and, and in Afghanistan. But guess what? We do the same thing. Like, that is the game. Every intelligence organization is collecting on everybody. Because here's the thing. And it's true. Even though as crazy it sounds, and, and I give Israel a little bit of lenience in this, it's a little bit crazier for France and Canada to be spying on us because we spy on them, too, is that you don't know who your friend, who your friend is now isn't your friend tomorrow. And Israel has a big problem with trust. But can you, can you kind of blame them? So, yeah, they're going to look into us because they don't know if they're going to be our ally tomorrow. Am I saying that makes it right? I think it's crazy. I treat my friends like my friends, my enemies like my enemies. I don't treat my friends like my enemies thinking they're going to turn on me. But I'm just telling you some behind the, you know, behind the curtain truth. Everybody does it.

[Drew]

It's all national security for everybody.

[Tyler]

I mean, I got a question. Yeah. We always say, oh, you see, I, he was Mossad. Couldn't he have just been a Chinese intelligence asset? The people who have been number practically in the past 10 years, more than enough. Oh, gosh. I mean, think about who spies on us more than China. Like every. Everybody spies on everybody. Body is the game. It is the game. You know, I just have to say, like, oh, it's massage. Like, okay, well, I mean, right? We go with the guy who's been 20 out of 20 times in the past 10 years. Here's the other thing, and it's true. You can just throw, oh, he's Mossad. That means. Or he's CIA, whatever, whatever name you want through that means. When you say that, it means like, they were trained by them, like they were like, like they were deeply embedded with them. That, that doesn't have to be the case. You can just be an asset, which means you're just getting paid to report. That doesn't make you Mossad. That just makes you a guy who got paid to say what you know. And, and that happens all over the world. And every country. And every country does it. Every country.

[Drew]

Peter Amos is Brent. Is there some story or understanding within the armed forces community as to why the Marines have no Tier 1 units and only recently formalized Tier 2 units in Raiders and Force Recon?

[Brent]

I feel like we answered, we've covered this every live. Everybody asks about this one.

[Tyler]

I'll make it really quick. They, they really, in a weird way, you can go back to Force Recon. Don't really have even a Tier two because that's, that's a tier, that's a tier structure within socom. When SOCOM was, was formed, the Marines opted out because they didn't want, want their units. They don't want anyone else to be in control of their units. So it wasn't even until recently that they fell under the use of sock umbrella. And if you're not under the USASAK umbrella, it means you're not special operations. You can't be a tier one unit if you're not truly under special Operations. And don't think for a second I'm taking away who the Force Recon guys were. They were great dudes. Great dudes. They just weren't technically a part of special Operations for the longest time. Someone's gonna try to get me on a technicality and be like, oh, what about. I gotta think of their name. What about so. And so they. At some point, they did, like, rotate in a company that was. That was always, like, under the SOCOM umbrella, but they did it for the money. But as a. As a whole force, they were. They were never under the SOCOM umbrella. And so that's why. And they'll never have a tier one unit because, hey, we have two. We don't need a. We don't need a third. We don't need two. We sure as hell don't need three.

[Drew]

John Howard show back in with $50. Not 40, but 50. Shirt off. I'll send your bird shirt.

[Brent]

Hey, bro, I had to sing Eddie Murphy's party all the time.

[Tyler]

It did. Did it? Like a chip. Drew. The camera, the camera, the camera. I'm not. I'm not fast enough. 50 bucks.

[Drew]

50 bucks. Ethan showed up, wanted to be on the live. He's. He's signed up for more than he bargained for. All right. Okay. He's looking like he's on trt. He's doing good.

[Tyler]

If we. If. If we get HBTRT to. To. To give you a tattoo on your chest, will you do it for 50 bucks? All right. Every day. True.

[Drew]

All right. Everyday American says Mike Glover. Story is legit. Was he ever attached to Delta?

[Tyler]

Yeah, he was in my otc. I mean, which. Which go on. So which he was at. He got selected to be an operator. He was good enough to be selected to be an operator. And. And anyone's like, oh, he filled out of otc. Guess what, all you guys that. That bag on for that, you go to West Virginia and you go get selected to be an operator. So he deserves credit for that. He just didn't make it through otc. That doesn't make him a bad guy. That means he wasn't the very, very, very, very, very, very best in the world at that one particular thing to do in cqb, he. When he failed out of otc, he was still good enough of a dude to give him a job, be like, hey, do you want to still be in the building and be a support guy? And. And he took that job. So, yes, I do understand some people's disdain with them, where at times it seems like he alludes that I was at the unit, you know, I was at the Delta Force. And because he was a Green Beret, it kind of insinuates he was an operator, but that kind of goes back to intent, and I can't. I can't really speak to what his intent was if he intentionally did that. But there's been enough people that have.

[Brent]

He implied it.

[Tyler]

He.

[Brent]

Our favorite word of the night. I'm just kidding. I've never heard him say.

[Tyler]

I don't know if he accidentally, directly or indirectly, mistakenly misspoken. I mean, it's unintentionally.

[Drew]

Unintentional.

[Brent]

What's that word he said, though?

[Tyler]

In unexpected, unequivocally.

[Brent]

I'm just begging up now.

[Drew]

Oh, John is back in for two bucks again. Saying, try to debunk dancing Israelis. Brent, you're naive.

[Tyler]

Someone just sent me the Wikipedia of Tim Kennedy. Timothy Fred Kennedy, born September 1, 1979, is a valor stealing American soldier. The very first line in his Wikipedia page.

[Drew]

All right, emailed an insta link. Marilyn Ng Investigating TK hey, we're past 11.

[Brent]

10 bucks and up.

[Drew]

Gotta shut this down here soon, boys. My chat was missed earlier, no problem. But when I was 11, I shot at a jet doing a flyover for the local college football game, like in 2-02-03. Does that give me more combat time than TK Brent. Jason says, Brent, would your wife agree that you shoot straight?

[Tyler]

Well, I don't. I don't have a wife, so I don't listen. Be hard to ask her.

[Drew]

Rifleman. Oh, let's see. 10 bucks, 10 buckers here. Mr. M81. Tyler, have you been at. Have you been staying up to date on the ongoing FBI investigation with Lee County Sheriff Carmen Marcino? If not, that would be good for you.

[Brent]

I did. I heard about that. Somebody messaged us. And he works for Lee county, and he was blowing my mind. I'm like, dude, that guy was a go getter. Cops. Cop on camera. And they're like, no, he's. There's a bunch of narcotics issues with his chain of command and all kinds of crazy. So, yeah, that's the second time I've heard of something, but I'm not too privy of it. If you could email it to what you have to the antihero podcast, gmail.com. put it like Lee county or sheriff, whatever the his name is. And that way I can read it and get up to date.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Brent]

That it?

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's it.

[Brent]

That's it.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Brent]

Who's the song winners?

[Tyler]

We got two of them. Cemetery Gates and Blue on Black.

[Brent]

Make sure you get the good Blue on Black. It's featuring Brantley Gilbert.

[Tyler]

I. I went. I went Five finger death punch.

[Brent]

Yeah, but you got to get the one featuring Brantley Gilbert.

[Tyler]

Really? Yes. Okay. All right. All right.

[Brent]

Boy.

[Tyler]

So, so demanding.

[Brent]

Here's another five figure that's both suffered the same thing Nickelback did. Do you know anybody that hate?

[Tyler]

I don't to. To that degree. You think. You think.

[Brent]

Actually, I know a lot of people ate five figure death.

[Tyler]

I. I know I kind of.

[Brent]

But they make they headline tours. They're millionaires. So, like, they. There can't be that many haters.

[Tyler]

I think they got back in after Sound of Silence. Sound. No, they didn't do sound to silence.

[Brent]

They did the disturbed.

[Tyler]

That was Disturbed. That. That. That was a good one. That was. That was a good one. He's just.

[Brent]

Just stay shirtless. We all do our part. You have the better bod.

[Tyler]

Let's see if I can find that one for you. This is a lot with this. Oh, I love it. Damn, I love it. I love it. I don't see it. Don't have it. All right, let's hang out with the boys in the chat for a second. Miss my chat earlier. You should have. Medal of honor recipient Earl Plumley on. He was a force Recon marine that became a Green Beret and 1st Special Forces Group believes it. Believe he lives in Florida as well. D. Does he. And I do know the name Earl Plumlee. I would love, love to have him on the show. What else we got? Our boy Hemingway. Brent, do you know Charlie Ross of Hades Consulting their website says he passed selection for Army Soul Tier 1 SMU at the age of 21. He was the youngest to make it to the unit. I don't know if Charlie was the youngest, but if Charlie says he was and he was, I do know he was young when he got there and he was in squadron with me. And Charlie Ross is a killer. Charlie Ross is a great dude. Charlie Ross. Ross was on target the night I got shot, and he was. And he was laying down the murder game that night, which he did most nights. He was out. I'm a big fan of Charlie ross Red Horse 1421 live back at Bragg show Burton Taylor. Oh, that would be cool. Alive back at Bragg. Yeah, we're both a brag. That would make sense. Where. What's that?

[Brent]

Where would we do it?

[Tyler]

Where would we do it? We could figure that out. We get someone. What's that?

[Drew]

Downtown ODs.

[Tyler]

I never went to Southern Pond in Southern Pond. I was just at ODonnell's for my buddy's birthday. He had a. He had a Baywatch birthday. So I want his David Hasselhoff and Devon win his really hot chick in a red bikini. Seth B. Delta Delta Dads as badass as usual. Scroll down just for a See if I can find it again because I want I thought I saw what he said at the end, but I'm not sure. Oh, it kills me. I think he said something about and risers are gay.

[Drew]

Right here.

[Tyler]

As usual. Tall risers are gay. Yes. Tall risers. I'll give small risers to clear like your thumb doing a C grip over your. Your. Your ap tail, your pec tube, your pec four whatever you want. Your. Your in golf but an excessively tall risers are gay. I'm not like shirt off on your On a couch for 50 bucks gay, but gay nonetheless. So Vanessa's there in the. In the chat. Good to see her. No.

[Drew]

Why?

[Tyler]

What has happened? I don't like that.

[Drew]

Looks like I'm not the only one. You're just.

[Tyler]

You're just my default blame when it comes to.

[Brent]

It was an Epstein list.

[Tyler]

It's the Mossad.

[Brent]

Tyler Israel firearm Glock 27. Although I want to go to a.

[Drew]

Glock 9 millimeter dancing juice.

[Tyler]

See some. Some of the chats are just him talking to each other, which is awesome.

[Brent]

I know. If you guys want a full breakdown of the Epstein thing, the. My wife's podcast Tomorrow did like 12 hours of research for it. So go check that out.

[Tyler]

Counterculture Inc. Gaby at Brent. Did you guys usually jump with AADs, otherwise known as a cypress or.

[Brent]

No.

[Tyler]

Of course we did. You got to have those. You got to have those AEDs. You don't want that if you get knocked out. Like you want something to open your parachute for you. But more importantly than that, you want the settings in there to be right because you don't want it to open when you didn't. When you didn't expect it to open. But we're professionals. That would have never happened. Ever. Maybe it happened once. Not to me. John Doe is Israel did Kennedy the John Kennedy.

[Drew]

How's Lyndon Bain Johnson. He's the worst president. He did a lot of shady stuff.

[Tyler]

Oh, Devin Smith in there bought a CC counterculture tank top today. Hey, the Thursday Night Live tank tops are ordered. They're on the way.

[Brent]

Came today and I was like, are.

[Tyler]

Those a tank top? She goes, nah, I was open. They were. I know. Some of them were. Yeah, I know. Bought a bunch of tier one shirts to stock back up on. I know. I. I thought they were the tank tops too. I was excited.

[Brent]

I meant to tell. Oh, I told you.

[Tyler]

We're.

[Brent]

We're gonna. This will be the last time probably that we sell merch on our individual company's website. We're actually going to open a merch store with multiple designs and have more than just two T shirts that me and Brent make. So that'll be exciting. So we'll have a merch store soon.

[Tyler]

Seeing it tfm. Brent, did you rock an MCX on deployment? I did, I did in Syria. It was great. Great little. Great little gun. It was. It's probably one of my favorite guns really was 556 or 300. 300 subsonic. Did you. Was it the rattler or the 8 a half inch. A smaller than 8 and a half then it was like the rattler. It was a rattler before they call it, wasn't. It was.

[Drew]

It was.

[Tyler]

It was the preview of the aaa. Yeah. I think it was five and a half inch and had the integrated suppressor into it. You could take it off, but it looked integrated. Yep.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Yeah. That thing was a silent killer. Oh, I love that thing you had. You had to keep it clean though. And not that it was that big of a deal, but like not crazy, crazy clean. But it wasn't like the 416 to where the 416 was the Glock of rifles. I mean I almost never cleaned mine more. More because I was kind of lazy than I was, you know, than anything else. It wasn't a durability test. It wasn't a dirty. It was an intentional durability test. It just. Just worked out like that. All right, let's see. I couldn't find the other one, but I still got this.

[Brent]

Couldn't find five finger death punch.

[Tyler]

I could find. I just couldn't find it with. With that. On. On Apple music, with the. The featuring. They did have a featuring with the Kennywood with Kenny Wayne Shepard. But not the guy you were talking with. Gilbert, what did you go to YouTube? I went. I went to Apple.

[Brent]

Why?

[Tyler]

Because I'm an Apple guy.

[Brent]

So. You're gonna play the worst version of it.

[Tyler]

It's not the worst version. This is not the worst version. This is, is.

[Brent]

This version sucks.

[Tyler]

There's a version and there's the version you got. They didn't say Gilbert. Blame it on the. Blame it on them. Bobby O Bert. When you see M67, does it trigger you? He knows his Bluetooth is stronger somehow, some way.

[Brent]

Oh, you turned it back on Because I, I. Before the fire, I was going to play you the good version of this.

[Tyler]

I got a question for you that we got to. One of the things that irked me about the, about July 4th. Not a lot irks me about July 4th. I love it. But I brought up the, the po. What I believe to be posers that can't handle fireworks because it triggers their, their ptsd. And I'm like, if that isn't. Hey, look at me, Hey, I was in war, like, type of move. I don't know what is. Are you, you deployed? Are you okay with fireworks? Were you not here for the fourth because you were hiding from fireworks?

[Brent]

Maybe, or. I was blown. I bought 300 worth of fireworks.

[Tyler]

Oh, did you? Okay.

[Brent]

I had those mortars going off. Off.

[Tyler]

Like. Yeah.

[Brent]

It. I feel like you even call them mortars.

[Tyler]

Does that trigger you? Are you okay?

[Brent]

I. I've never once thought of a firework, especially on a day where you were expecting fireworks. Like, how does that make any sense?

[Tyler]

There's a good.

[Brent]

I mean I get if at 2 in the afternoon, if you're watching TV on a Sunday and a mortar round goes off in your neighborhood.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Might be freaky out of it.

[Tyler]

Okay. Yeah, I'd give you that one. One. I'd give you that one. Sleep in the middle night and someone blows off $600 worth of fireworks and you wake up and they're here. They're here. Yeah, I'm giving. You know, I'm not that big of a dick.

[Drew]

Look at this guy.

[Tyler]

All right. Oh, single handed. I lost my hand to an ied and I'm cool with fireworks for sure. Like that guy has a good really reason to not like loud noises. And he's cool with it. Sheesh. Biker bike Acer dude. Tim Ken vented fireworks. He didn't invent them, but in indirectly, directly, in an implied way. He accidentally and invented fireworks. And that's a amazing.

[Brent]

Unequivocally.

[Tyler]

Un. Unequivocally. He also needed electricity, apparently. Mike R. Thank man.

[Brent]

I.

[Tyler]

When the, when the chat section says it, I believe it. Oh, let's see here. What was the most fun to shoot? A javelin or a minigun. Damn. That's a. That's a good question. Yeah, yeah. We had a minigun gun on one of our GMVs at group. We had a minigun or as we call it, the Breath of Allah. I'm probably gonna go with javelin on that one. Randomly enough because it. There's a little bit more to it. It's a missile. It's. It's pretty cool, man. That's a hard one. That's a good. That's a good question.

[Drew]

Here's a funny one right here, Brad.

[Tyler]

Big country brier. Be respectful and shut your kids and dogs up. July 5th because some of us were all. All night drinking and being unsafe with explosives. Shut your kids and dogs up. I agree with that. Be respectful to those who to. To those who really enjoyed their country last night.

[Brent]

Oh, there's another super chat.

[Tyler]

Super chat. 20 bucks. Great job with TK. POTUS shown nuke bioweapons in place by Israel. Plus US intel or threat to kids and even future generations or real or faked blackmail material or POTUS not in charge of US government or too many powerful would be exposed. That's all the oars you got. Can we get it?

[Brent]

I was listening like, damn.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's. That was a lot.

[Brent]

That was a lot of ores.

[Tyler]

Maybe. I haven't. I haven't seen that many oars since the Olympic rowing. I don't. I don't even know what they're called.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Anyway, thank you, guys. Another Thursday night.

[Brent]

Are we making this a three and a half hour show now? You guys did it last night.

[Tyler]

Week.

[Brent]

And I was like, here we go. We're set to.

[Drew]

We did it the week before that too.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Brent]

No, we didn't go to three and a half.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Drew]

Well, that's true.

[Tyler]

The good news is we make them so long because we make all that ridiculous YouTube money with it being that long.

[Drew]

We had 3,000 people tonight.

[Tyler]

I know. That was a good one. I. I hope you guys enjoyed. And we're. And we're down to a measly 2000 guys. Thanks so much for showing up. It's. It. It really is. It's humbling.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I'll say it one more time because I just. I do. I think it. It warrants it. Like we. We put this shows which is our names on the line by. By doing that Tim Kennedy episode we got. It was, you know, a mixed bags of reviews. The beginning we got some hate. We got a lot of hate from Tim Himself. He dragged our names through the mud directly or indirectly to millions of people of his followers and saw that, only to find out, you know, months and months later, he had to take a step back because we were right the whole time. And it's not me like, gloating in someone else's downfall, but it is, like, doesn't feel bad to be right. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying, like, I'm happy about being right, but. But I'm not exactly.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

How do you want me to say it?

[Drew]

We were right. He was less right.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Sometimes there's no. It doesn't make you feel good to, To. To do the right thing. And somebody has to. Has to be reprimanded for it. Not like, oh, that makes me feel good.

[Tyler]

But. And here we go. But. And it goes back in a weird way, like we're back in the same predicament. Or he is kind of should say his, his apology video, his actual video, when he actually cared enough to. And we don't really talk about this. Extend this a little bit because we didn't talk about it. I forgot something. I want to bring up the first one. He cared enough personally to get in front of the camera, look in the camera via, you know, his face, his words, his mouth, and make. And make a rebuttal. And hey, and he, Even though he lied on that and he was wrong, you know, and he tried to, you know, call us clout chasers. If he'd have done the right thing, then this wouldn't be. This wouldn't be happening. Like, this would have been over. Like, by now he could be on the rebound, like, not still being the news. He had a chance to do the right thing, then did not apologize for it eight months later because of our podcast. Someone. Enough of you guys hear the story and drug up an interview. As many interviews as I've seen, I haven't seen them all. Someone drags up an interview of him saying, yeah, I have a bronze over valor and this is how I got it out there. And now he has to make this public apology saying, okay, so you got me on this one thing. I don't have that and still makes. Didn't care enough to come out and put his face on and say it in person. Like, he should have creates what we have shown to be for the majority AI generated apology and still doesn't fully accept the consequences of what he does. So what happens now? Well, I guess another podcast happens now. So it ain't. It ain't gonna get Better. So with that being said, thank you.

[Brent]

Yes, thank you.

[Tyler]

Thank you, guys. So it's because of you guys. Yeah, look at this. It's because you guys. It wouldn't have mattered what we said if you guys didn't watch, if you guys didn't comment, if you guys didn't keep. Keep this moving along. I'll say it one more time. Thank you to Nate from. From Valhalla for. For supporting us in this. Thank you. David Hookstead for hopping on supporting us this. Jay from the Green Berets Chronicles for hopping on supporting this. I'm probably the. The sticky Green Beret and I'm forgetting all sorts of meme pages that hopped.

[Brent]

On another army that. Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

John Burke. Thank you. Gosh, how do we all. Again, a guest of ours, John Burke, you know, hopped on this, put his name on the line, just.

[Brent]

And when you bring in that many people, usually types of personalities like this are always kind of disagreeing or debating, you know, tactics or like, whether or not something's right or wrong. And everyone came under one umbrella and said, absolutely.

[Tyler]

I'd be remiss, even though we kind of said it earlier. Eddie Gallagher. Hey, Eddie Gallagher is. Whatever you think of him, he has an affair, drama in his life, you know, from things that. That he's already proven to be right, but has enough drama's life to not wait into this. But because he has integrity and does care about the right thing, he weighed in into this, said something about it. Beo Beato from Half Face Blades. You know, he's. He's been very vocal about this. Just a ton of people, I would like to say thank you, but it's weird saying thank you to people for doing the right thing.

[Brent]

I mean, look at it. What the guys that came on episode two, all those guys that came board.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah. TR. Oh, my God. Travis Warlock, who. Who openly, you know, came on.

[Brent]

Came a lot, I think took a lot.

[Tyler]

And especially because he already was on a video with Tim and that looked bad. But of course, like, he wanted to clear his name.

[Brent]

Like, hey, Tim lied to him.

[Tyler]

Tim lied to me. I got. I got bit twice by this guy. His other teammates that have come forward, all his teammates that have talked to me. And I get it. Not everyone wants to go public about it, but the people who still believe us enough to talk to us and give us inside information to ensure that we're not right. I cannot thank you guys enough. And hopefully you continue to support us and, yes, we will continue to do the right thing.

[Brent]

Yeah. And thank you guys for watching all the episodes that we put out. And you know what? Now, I mean, I remember when we talked, me and Brent used to talk about an episode. One day we'll get to 10k. They're at 10k. A day now was a threshold.

[Tyler]

Every live goes over 10k, 20k.

[Brent]

And it's just because you guys support us. And it sounds corny, but we really appreciate it.

[Drew]

The chat say taint nothing.

[Tyler]

Thank you guys and we'll see you next Thursday. We're out.