Squadcast (Live) 07/17/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: Squadcast (Live) – July 17, 2025

Episode Overview In this live episode of The Antihero Podcast, hosts Brent, Drew, Casey, Tyler, Magnet, and Payne engage in a lively and candid discussion covering a range of topics from tactical operations and law enforcement to sports analogies and media censorship. The conversation is punctuated by interactions with live listeners through super chats, adding spontaneity and diverse perspectives to the dialogue.

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Technical Hiccups and Live Interaction

The episode begins with the crew experiencing technical difficulties, leading to a humorous exchange about missed controversial statements.

• Brent [02:36]: "All right, there we go."
• Drew [02:35]: "We said something super controversial and you missed it. Thanks, Drew."

Once the technical issues are resolved, the hosts dive into live super chats.

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Close-Quarters Battle (CQB) Units: White Side GB vs. Unit

A listener named Bjorn inquires about the collaboration between CIF (a specialized force) and White Side GB (Ground Battle units), specifically questioning their proficiency in CQB and the natural progression within units.

• Bjorn [03:00]: "How often do CIF guys work with the unit compared to White Soft? How much better are they at CQB? Is the unit a natural progression?"
• Brent [03:17]: "We normally do one thing a year with the unit from kind of like a validation standpoint."

Key Insights:

• Collaboration between specialized units and standard units varies, with some White Side teams excelling in CQB.
• CQB skills are considered perishable, necessitating continuous training.

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Physical Attributes in Sports and Tactical Training

The hosts discuss the impact of physical attributes such as height and weight in sports, drawing parallels to tactical operations.

• Drew [04:19]: "I just want to be the first one to say that I'm not the shortest one in the room right now. Magnet is shorter than me."
• Casey [05:14]: "Even in the NFL like some with the shortest like active on the roster right now. Can't remember his name. I think he was like 5:3 or 5:4."

Notable Quotes:

• Casey [05:14]: "The base is there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a perishable skill."

Key Insights:

• Height and weight play significant roles in both sports and tactical operations.
• Maintaining physical prowess requires ongoing effort and training.

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Media Censorship and First Amendment Concerns

The conversation shifts to the suppression of certain narratives in the media, emphasizing concerns over First Amendment infringements.

• Brent [08:14]: "Leak. If you're watching this, read Legacy of Ashes about the CIA."
• Casey [08:14]: "They're the appellate court for this process, which means they're the appeals process."

Notable Quotes:

• Casey [09:08]: "When you infringe upon the First Amendment, dude, you're playing with fire at that point."

Key Insights:

• There is frustration over perceived censorship and manipulation of media narratives.
• Legacy of Ashes is recommended as a critical read on CIA operations.

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Apologies and Public Perception

The hosts delve into the effectiveness and sincerity of public apologies, particularly concerning controversial figures.

• Tyler [09:18]: "Jim says since TK is so good at stealing shite, maybe he can steal the Epstein list."
• Casey [11:05]: "And I was like, hey, what do you mean?"

Notable Quotes:

• Drew [16:45]: "I have a great story."

Key Insights:

• The manner in which apologies are delivered can significantly impact public perception.
• There is skepticism about the authenticity of certain public apologies.

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Military Recruitment and Career Decisions

Discussion around the experiences of military recruitment, the importance of informed decision-making, and personal anecdotes about enlisting.

• Payne [10:31]: "Gotta educate yourself."
• Casey [10:45]: "It's not very manly. I was 120, 120 pounds."

Notable Quotes:

• Brent [10:10]: "I told him I wasn't going to enlist without an option 40 contract."

Key Insights:

• Importance of understanding contract terms and military occupational specialties (MOS) before enlisting.
• Personal experiences highlight the need for diligent research and self-advocacy during recruitment.

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Police and Special Forces Comparisons

The hosts compare the roles and effectiveness of various law enforcement and special operations units, addressing misconceptions and operational differences.

• Casey [07:02]: "I get this question a lot. I haven't. I've never worked with vortac."
• Payne [07:45]: "I went to Purdue and those guys shot it straight with me."

Notable Quotes:

• Casey [07:45]: "And same with HRT. They just don't."

Key Insights:

• Specialized units like vortac and HRT have distinct operational roles that differ from traditional special operations units.
• Misconceptions about these units are common and often need clarification.

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Super Chats and Listener Engagement

Throughout the episode, listeners contribute via super chats, posing questions and making comments that the hosts address in real-time.

• Listener [03:00]: Questions about military units and CQB.
• Listener [20:22]: Inquires about visiting the studio and specific requests.
• Listener [99:53]: Discusses Republicans blocking Epstein file releases.

Key Insights:

• Active listener participation enhances the dynamism and relevance of the podcast.
• Diverse topics from tactical operations to pop culture and political issues are covered based on listener interest.

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Operational Challenges and Ethical Considerations

The discussion touches upon the ethical dilemmas faced during operations, such as handling aggressive animals in combat settings and the moral implications of certain tactical decisions.

• Casey [174:03]: "I feel like it was me or him. It was me or him."
• Drew [172:06]: "SWAT teams use CO2. If you got CO2 a Glock works good."

Notable Quotes:

• Casey [174:03]: "It's just a fact of life, and it kind of sucks, but there's really nothing else you want me to do."

Key Insights:

• Ethical considerations are paramount in high-stakes operations, balancing mission success with humane treatment.
• Tactical responses to unexpected threats require quick decision-making under pressure.

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Conclusion and Reflections

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on personal experiences, the importance of mentality in high-pressure environments, and express gratitude towards supporters and sponsors.

• Payne [197:58]: "Mine's always the hit."
• Casey [199:58]: "There's a difference between you can just go buy guys or you can develop guys that you brought in out of high school."

Notable Quotes:

• Casey [200:06]: "We save the unit all the time. We're not looking for the best guy. We're looking for the right guy."

Key Insights:

• Mental resilience is as crucial as physical prowess in both athletic and military contexts.
• Building a cohesive and trustworthy team is fundamental to success in any high-pressure field.

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Notable Sponsors

This episode included sponsorship messages from Cloud Defensive and Tasty Gains, offering discounts and promotions to listeners.

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Final Thoughts This episode of The Antihero Podcast provided an in-depth exploration of tactical operations, personal reflections on military and athletic careers, and a critical look at media ethics and public perception. The interactive segment with live listeners through super chats added a layer of engagement, making the discourse both informative and entertaining for those tuning in.

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Note: All timestamps are indicative and based on the provided transcript.

Transcript

[Brent]

You mean it?

[Drew]

And we're live on another Thursday night Squad cast. Thursday night is for the boys. We got a packed house. We got Payne, Durham, Casey Hildreth, Magnet, the rest of the crew. Everyone's here. Magnet, the rest of the crew.

[Casey]

Ever since.

[Drew]

Got. Wouldn't be a Thursday night live without technical difficulty.

[Casey]

Stay tun. It's.

[Drew]

They're saying no sound.

[Casey]

Damn it.

[Tyler]

Now we got it.

[Casey]

We got it now.

[Tyler]

How about now, boys?

[Casey]

Oh, good. So it wasn't. So no one did hear it.

[Drew]

No one heard.

[Brent]

All right, there we go.

[Drew]

We said something super controversial and you missed it. Thanks, Drew.

[Tyler]

Someone fire me, please.

[Magnet]

Going home.

[Casey]

Sometimes it works out in your favor. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Let's go right to the super chats. Have them kick this off. And if they don't. If they don't go in a certain direction, then we'll. We'll. We'll go the way we want to.

[Brent]

I like it.

[Tyler]

Super chats. All right, here we go. How often do see it? This is Bjorn says. How often do CIF guys work with the unit compared to White Soft? How much better are they at cqb? Is the unit a natural progression?

[Casey]

H, Casey, that's for you, brother.

[Brent]

Well, I think it's both of us. We can that. So we normally get. We do one thing a year with the unit from kind of like a validation standpoint. And I'm not really sure as a white side gb, I didn't really work with the unit that much actually, at all. And then from a CQB standpoint.

[Payne]

I.

[Brent]

Think that that's relative. There's whiteside teams that train CQB and are really good at it. The DA teams in A company, some of those guys are really good at it. We just have more of an opportunity to do it and work with people who do it all the time. So, yeah, I think it's a relative question. There's probably some. Some assault cells out there that are flat garbage right now, but give them a couple of weeks of training, train back up and. Yeah, you can't.

[Casey]

The base is there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a perishable skill.

[Brent]

Absolutely.

[Drew]

I just want to be the first one to say that I'm not the shortest one in the room right now. Magnet is shorter than me.

[Payne]

That's a lot.

[Casey]

How tall are you?

[Drew]

Five foot two.

[Casey]

You are not five foot two. Your beard's five foot two. Makes up for the rest. Thought about getting a kid seat.

[Payne]

I was feeling good until last week. You guys said the 6, 8 Fort Lauderdale cop. I wanted the record.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Well, I mean we didn't measure him.

[Casey]

We didn't measure him.

[Brent]

Stand still.

[Magnet]

That's because he couldn't reach them.

[Casey]

Yeah. Oh man. I had a. We got on this. I. I can't remember off top of my head, but we went down me and Devin like the line of like all and all this. All the major sports, like tallest and shortest people and in each sport and it was, it was crazy. And even, even in. In the NFL like some with then the shortest like active on the roster right now. Can't remember his name. I think he was like 5:3 or 5:4. What position? It's gotta be quick.

[Drew]

Yeah. Those little feet.

[Casey]

Yeah. And then six. Yeah. Of course. Like. Yeah, it's not lineman. Not too hard for those guys to get. Six, eight.

[Payne]

Oh yeah.

[Casey]

You know, just a little bit taller.

[Payne]

Yeah. There's some creatures out there.

[Casey]

NHL had some 6 foot 10 guys. I was a little surprised they didn't have any seven footers.

[Drew]

I think that heavy on the ice.

[Casey]

Because you think you went like a seven footer as a goalie. That's. I mean because they don't have to necessarily big because they're, they're. They're all padded up so they look big. You just need that like that big presence in the, in the goal. Who else was like interesting like a baseball. There's like six some six, eight, six, nine pitchers. Yeah. It was interesting to see Johnson.

[Brent]

He was 7, right?

[Casey]

Yeah. But basically, almost, essentially the gist was within an inch. And across all sports the tallest guys are NBA of course will go over 7 foot but between, between 610 and 5, 3 and almost all the major sports have. Have both extremes.

[Drew]

How tall are you? Six, six, six, six, six.

[Casey]

Nailed it. Yep.

[Payne]

This year we. We took the heaviest guy in the NFL ever and the lightest guy in the NFL ever.

[Casey]

Did you guys. Was that the, the guy from the Gators?

[Payne]

Desmond? Yeah.

[Casey]

What's his name?

[Payne]

Desmond Watson.

[Casey]

Watson, that's right. He was like a £400.

[Payne]

I don't know what he is now. I think he's lost some. He might be down to like 430. I believe.

[Casey]

40.

[Payne]

He can move surprisingly well.

[Brent]

Yeah, bro. Giant fast humans worry me. You know what I mean?

[Casey]

It's not fair for being honest. It's just not fair. Like you can't get both. You can't get size and speed. Pick one.

[Brent]

Right, right.

[Casey]

You don't get both. Some people do though, you know, that's.

[Tyler]

I'm sorry. Have either of you work with Bortac or hrt?

[Casey]

I get this question a lot. I haven't. I've never worked with vortac. They're very, like, specific in what they do, so there's really no reason to. I don't think it'd be outside the possibility to ever work. I just haven't. And it also. Same with hrt. They just don't. You know, they're. They're the national police force, so they're really not military. Yeah. I'm not hating on them, but, you know, people think they're, like the delta of, you know, of the national police force. They're not. And they're. Yeah, they're. They're not. There are no former unit guys that work for them. Are they great at what they do? Yes. Are they the unit? No. And I'm pretty sure they. They tell you that too. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Jim says since TK is so good at stealing shite, maybe he can steal the Epstein list.

[Brent]

This guy's on to something.

[Tyler]

Keep up the good work. Let's not forget about Corey Mills.

[Casey]

Corey Mills is a congressman out of Florida that has made the news. In fact, we. We read a whole article on him one day, and by the next day that the whole episode was taken down. Cool. Yeah. Yeah, cool.

[Tyler]

Geez.

[Brent]

You know what? That's the whole thing, dude. Like, during the whole pandemic or whatever, not. None of that stuff really bothering. That's the censorship did.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

When you infringe upon the First Amendment, dude, you're playing with fire at that point. So we need to find who did that.

[Casey]

And it was. And it's not even. Okay. It used to be this, like, us versus them, like the classic evil. The media. The mainstream media. Yeah, but it's. It used to be, like, the scapegoat, if you will. And, like, it's. But it's been proven now. Was it 60 minutes was proven to edit Kamala Harris's interview to make her sound smarter. Like, that's. That's a problem. It's been proven that Facebook was out there, like, helping narrate the COVID information and deeming what's right and what's wrong. No, that's not your responsibility as a social media platform. You're. You're not the. You're not the right police, bro.

[Brent]

Leak. If you're watching this, read Legacy of Ashes about the CIA. Okay, Just read that book and it. Just read that book, and I'll leave it at that.

[Casey]

Legacy of Ashes.

[Tyler]

Jim ended it with Rangers. Lead the way. Patrick is on says we should call this retard cast after this.

[Casey]

Most people take that as an insult. We just laugh at it for sure.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

He paid to say it.

[Tyler]

Our Gordon, former 11 Bravo, wanted to be in Special Forces. But I was 17 and I naive. And the recruiter took advantage and had me rush to enlist because she wanted to become an E7.

[Casey]

You know, it worked. I'm sure she got her E7. I'm sorry, how was my. My recruiter experience? Was. Was actually pretty good. And I know there's a bunch of bad ones out there, but, you know, not to. But to arbitrarily paint a brush with everyone, like, your recruiter is going to hose you. Yeah, recruiter is good. What was your recruiter experience?

[Brent]

It was good. I mean, I. I told him I wasn't going to enlist without a option 40 contract.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Brent]

Made it happen for me, so.

[Casey]

But it's easier when you and one of the few, when you go in there and you know what you want, like, they have to give it to you.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

It sucks when you have to go in there and make the biggest decision of your career at that point in your life with the least amount of information.

[Brent]

Gotta educate yourself.

[Casey]

And there's no reason for it now. There's no reason to not go into recruiter's office and know what bonuses are available, how long a contract is, what you can get in a contract, what the MOS really means.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Because when I. Because when we signed up in, like, 01, I was still getting, like, it was either a CD or a VHS tape that got put into a TV to show you. Hey, this is what your MOS looks like. You're like, oh, that's super cool. That's what I knew about my mos. I couldn't go Google it. Well, maybe I could have 2001. I'm sure the Internet. My recruiter wasn't easily accessible.

[Drew]

He told me. I was like, oh, we just found Saddam Hussein. And he was like. He's like, first cab didn't find. You know that, Right? But the new set, he goes, oh, no. He's like.

[Casey]

He was smart. Yeah. Okay. All right. I gotta. I gotta put the mic a little closer to your. To your face if it'll is. Will it reach. We got cord problems. Okay, there we go. What would the equivalent be of a recruiter and almost feel like maybe we'll keep it, like, at a college level when you're getting recruited.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Do you feel like there are people there that are, like, pulling the wool over your eyes? Like, that's not really how this goes, 1,000%.

[Payne]

Yeah, I got lucky with. I went to Purdue and those guys shot it straight with me, and I respected it. They told me, hey, you're going to redshirt when you get here. You're not going to play your first year. And I respected that because I needed it. But there was definitely a few people that. And they'll never come out and say it, but we can get you on the field early. And then I'm looking around and they'll end up signing another tight end. And he didn't. He didn't play for three years. And so it's now. Now I think it's a little changed with the money involved and all that stuff. But when I was going through it, there's. You definitely have some bad apples. I have a great story. One guy, I won't say the university, I don't even know where he is now, but came to my house and for about two and a half hours just flirted with my mom. Never talked to me. I mean, we said one thing about football and the rest of the time. Yeah, just macking on her hard, wasn't it?

[Drew]

How bad you want your son to go to college?

[Casey]

I was taking a. I'm the probably the last one to watch it. What was that movie about Michael Jordan and Nike? Was this called Air? I think, yeah. Okay. And, I mean, his. The way they. They. I just now watched it, which is kind of crazy. I didn't think it would be a very good movie. It was a really good movie. And they got to Michael through his mom.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And so maybe.

[Magnet]

Maybe.

[Payne]

Maybe that was the end.

[Casey]

I don't think he flirted with Michael's mom. So that was. That was an odd thing.

[Payne]

This guy was putting his cards on the table. Cross that one off. And I wasn't a highly recruited guy. I didn't have that many options. There goes one.

[Casey]

Why do you. I mean, you made it all the way to the pros, so why do you. What do you. What was the difference? I mean, why. What was the cause? The. The late peak, if you will.

[Payne]

Yeah. So I. I started football my senior year of high school.

[Casey]

What?

[Payne]

Yeah, I like. I mean, like I was telling you, I. I played outside growing up, and I played every sport you could as a kid. Then I started playing lacrosse pretty heavily and for some reason just fell in love with that. Really stopped playing everything else. And then senior year of high school, I had a coach that made me a stupid bet and ended up getting me back into it. And I. I owe him A lot for sure.

[Casey]

Yeah. I love those stories because I hope it pisses off every travel league, little.

[Drew]

League, dad, Pop Warner, kids that are like pipelining their kids. The quarterback.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, we got, we got, we got guys on my son's team, like, they play year round and then they'll play like two different leagues, like a flag league and a tackle league just to, just to get like another experience. And they just, and they, they travel and they just. The sports non stop.

[Brent]

You gotta, that's the thing. My son Dub, probably watching Dub. What up? Dub plays travel ball. But you gotta have those reps now to be competitive, to play it, play it. Anything above high school, no big deal. Eighth grade, starting varsity. I don't know where he gets that.

[Casey]

And let me, let me be a little more like, specific with it. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Like, there's a lot of guys that, that may make it because of that, but we've all seen the dad and the kid, like, stop. Your kid's just not, it's the coach's guy.

[Brent]

Let's just say, let's do a lot of people, like.

[Payne]

Yeah, I think a lot too. I grew up in Georgia and in Florida, you're playing football down here. Coaches are going to be watching, people are going to be watching. It's Florida, it's huge. Now if you're in Idaho or something, maybe you have to do those travel leagues, but.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Payne]

When your kid sucks and you're putting hundreds of thousand dollars into it.

[Casey]

Was it a return on investment? Were you six, six in high school?

[Payne]

Yeah, we're the same size.

[Casey]

Do you pretty much the same size?

[Payne]

Yeah, I gained 15 pounds since then.

[Casey]

But get out of here.

[Drew]

Like 50.

[Brent]

That was like 135 when I graduated.

[Casey]

Yeah, I couldn't put a pound on in high school. Real thin. I, I got a brother that was going to state and weightlifting, putting on pounds at like when he wanted to. And so like, I like the blueprint was there. Like, he was my older brother. He's three years older. Like, you know, he could tell me this is what.

[Tyler]

Just work harder, Brent. You gotta want it.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Brent]

Have you tried working hard?

[Casey]

We had a home gym. Like, I ate what he ate. I lifted or tried to lift what he lifted. It just did not happen for me until like 18, 19, I started to put on weight, but it just, it was a fool's errand. Like, it's crazy to say. And I would never deter someone to be like, well, if you can't put on weight, don't work out. I mean, it's. It's. It's not that. But I'll tell you, as a high schooler, you can't put on weight. It's discouraged.

[Brent]

Yeah, for sure.

[Casey]

It's not. It's not very manly. I was 120, 120 pounds.

[Magnet]

Now I'm 205. When people see me out of high school, they're like, what happened to you?

[Drew]

I'm like, it's all in your beard.

[Casey]

He's hiding leg weights.

[Brent]

That beard weighs seven pounds.

[Drew]

You let us. You let us know if we need to not read 1.99 super chats.

[Tyler]

But okay. Yeah, 100 Bravo whiskey says. Is that Bo? Where is he now? And what happened to the terrorists? Osama Bama traded for him, man.

[Casey]

I don't know where he's at now. I got shot right before my troop rescued him. So I wasn't. Wasn't even on that mission, But I heard plenty about how messed up that dude was mentally. Mentally, just absolutely a wreck you gotta be, I guess. And so I know a lot of people hate him, and I hate to say, as they should, he indirectly cost people their lives because there's a lot of people outside the wire, you know, that were running over IDs that wouldn't have been there searching for him. I get it. But when you. When I heard some of the stories of the guys that talked to him for a little bit with interrogators that were, like, debriefing him, and he was just outside his mind, we were all like, right. Time served. Yeah. Like, time. Time served. Like, they. They wanted his. Like, they wanted to, you know, hang them, you know, for it. And I. And I get it. Like, I do. Yeah.

[Drew]

When's the last time we've hung somebody for treason?

[Casey]

And I say that kind of like, you know, metaphorically and literally. Some people too long ago. But, yeah, where's. What was the second after that question? Where's Obama?

[Tyler]

Where's the terrorist traded for him?

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, they're probably working. Probably doing good work.

[Casey]

They're running Afghanistan right now.

[Brent]

Mayor. Mayor. Somewhere in Afghanistan or Minneapolis.

[Tyler]

Wukong says Islamists convoys are headed to Sweda in southern Syria, openly declaring jihad and vowing to undo as many Druze as possible.

[Brent]

Yes. Big facts.

[Casey]

I haven't seen that, actually. You've seen that in the news. Some reported or. I mean, let's. That's the reason the Kurds are. The Kurds will stop them.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And the Kurds really weren't There before. That's. Someone's going to go. Yeah, they were. It was their homeland. I get. They weren't really mobilized as a military unit before in Syria. Of course Kurds were in Syria, but Syria could not control the eastern part of Syria because their whole headquarters is. Is over and the. The western side of it. So ISIS just rolled through Syria with little to no. Little to no resistance. So it's. But it's a different game now because the Kurds are there. So I'm sure it's happening. But at some point and when the Kurds want to stop that the Kurds will stop that. They're the best force I ever worked with. Did they.

[Brent]

Does. Does Israel have some involvement in Syria now or. I saw something. Maybe it was a group chat from the old.

[Casey]

Well, to some degree. I know they'll. I know they'll. I know they'll send. Oh, that wasn't. See I was about to say I know they'll send pagers over there but.

[Brent]

I see what you did there too.

[Casey]

Soon they might send pagers over there. They're looking to expand their pager network. Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah, for sure.

[Tyler]

Goony says. What's the address? I'll send you guys some echelon.

[Brent]

Is that.

[Drew]

We're not. We won't put it on here but private DM us. We have. We still have some echelon, don't we?

[Casey]

Why we have a little bit of vegetables.

[Brent]

Drink that stuff.

[Casey]

It'll get you.

[Brent]

I use it for a pre workout. I'm not kidding you, dude.

[Drew]

A little spicy, bro.

[Brent]

I go. I will go for two hours and not check up on it. I'm dead serious.

[Casey]

It'll get you.

[Tyler]

Jacob Schneider says. Hey guys. Wanting to visit the studio but Tyler said I needed to DM him some balloon knot picks. Drew, Brent, can you confirm if this is required to visit?

[Casey]

No, no, no.

[Drew]

That's how he got here.

[Casey]

No gay stuff is required and that includes the super chats guys. So keep it out of the super chats.

[Tyler]

When is Matt Pranka and Ben Stoeger coming on?

[Casey]

We should get. I. You know, I've talked to Matt about it, but I haven't talked about being a Matt in a Ben Stoger one two punch. Yeah, that actually might be the. What what it takes to sweeten the pot a little bit. That would be the boys over here.

[Tyler]

Recon by butt stuff. True story. I also blew my taint riding a bull. Do you know any good pistol instructor near Austin for an intermediate and advanced pistol? You can't say tk or she thought.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Beat me to it.

[Brent]

David Acosta is. I think he's still in Dallas. He is a magician. I called him a professor. Go seek him out.

[Drew]

Stop firing that gun in the studio. YouTube loves that.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah, it's a lighter YouTube. I don't know if that's gonna help. The AI is just gonna just nuke the whole episode. Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Guns answer cars. EL to John Defund. Dancing cops.

[Drew]

Yeah, buddy.

[Tyler]

All for it. Bag of nades. Any word on my boy Pranka getting on strangers?

[Casey]

Lead the way back. Almost back to back. Prank up. Yeah, I'm gonna text them, let them know you're being highly requested. Them text me right now.

[Drew]

Tell him not to be a jerk.

[Brent]

Not to interrupt or anything, but why were you an Andy in a hot tub?

[Tyler]

Why not?

[Brent]

I, I, I.

[Casey]

Sometimes men get in hot tubs.

[Brent]

I know.

[Drew]

And they rub knees together.

[Brent]

So I talked to Andy, like, maybe a week before.

[Drew]

He didn't bring it up.

[Brent]

That's the thing.

[Casey]

He.

[Brent]

I guess you guys taped it, like, after I talked to him or whatever. And I was like, I'm gonna check this out. Turn it on. And I just see you guys in hot tub. I'm like, I don't know what's happening. I'm scared. So I turned it off.

[Drew]

That's fair. Hey, no gay stuff, guys. As we sit in hot tub.

[Casey]

Got to be consistent. I know. That was one of my dumb ideas. I don't even know why. I was like, hey, he's Navy seal. Like, yeah, Andy's coming. I was like, he's seal. He's comfortable in the water. I was like, what if we, like. Because we did a recorded with them before the live. So he came in, like, 1 or 1pm 2pm recorded just like this. We had someone go take him to. To lunch.

[Drew]

We did. Me.

[Casey]

You took me and you took. Yeah, we took the lunch. And Drew Magnet probably helps. And other people came in and they moved the desk out to there, and they brought in a hot tub. And. And he thought the live would be just like the recorded episode.

[Drew]

Chris from 9 11.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Andy walked in. I was like, that. That was supposed to be, like, funny, and it was funny.

[Drew]

No, it sucked because I had to entertain Andy for about an hour while you guys finished it. And he's like, what's going on in there? I'm like, nothing.

[Casey]

Yeah, don't worry about it. Andy's so professional. I didn't really have the effect I wanted from him. Like, oh, you guys. What Are you doing? He was like, okay, yeah. Guess what? I did so.

[Brent]

I love that guy.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Was it a good episode, though?

[Casey]

I enjoyed it.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

I enjoyed it. Yeah. It got some blowback, but. Oh, really? Blow back enough where we still have the hot tub and haven't done it again.

[Brent]

There you go.

[Drew]

Hey, Magnet, will you do me a favor?

[Casey]

Yep.

[Drew]

Will you rotate that camera a little bit or zoom it out a little bit? No, that one. The one closest to you in the middle.

[Brent]

Closest to you. Oh, okay. I see the one you're talking about. Nice talking.

[Drew]

Like asking my grandpa to get up.

[Casey]

I know.

[Drew]

Still sitting down. There we go.

[Casey]

Don't get it. But don't get in the frame. No, stay out of the frame. Be a professional about it.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's perfect right there.

[Tyler]

It looks white and fuzzy.

[Drew]

Perfect.

[Tyler]

Pat passes. Squat up. Y' all gonna get baby Timmy some more.

[Casey]

Yeah. We got an episode coming up with another one when we only covered one. We only.

[Drew]

The final chapter.

[Casey]

Yeah, we only covered one chapter of the whole book, so there's. There's a lot more. And I don't. In fact, now it's probably a good time to talk about a little bit. Here's some stuff I found out, and I want. I want everyone to know this. We've. We've. We've been. We've been blasting you to suck about this. And this is what. This is what I found out. Yousasak can't do anything about Tim. They cannot initiate a 15. 6. If you want to call it that, Initiate an investigation and use a sock. Cannot pull Tim Kennedy's tab. You. Sock is the. Use the big word, which means I'm probably going to mispronounce it. They're the appellate court for this process, which means they're the appeals process. So. And I'll tell you who is here in a second. So the lower court, if you will, and I'll get to that. They're the ones that'll take his tab or finish the investigation. And when the investigation is done, you have a chance to appeal to it. So you appeal to Usasak. Well, use a sock can't be the lawyer that initiates the investigation and the judge on the same investigation. So use a sock. Can't do anything other than when the appeal process starts. So I know I've been hammering you sock and told people to hammer. Hammer Usasak, but I learned a little bit more. So which brings a question. Well, then who. Then who does. And. And do you know who. Who do you know who? The. Anyone can start the investigation. But in this. Can you guess who. Who's the final say? I'm pulling a tab.

[Brent]

I would say the group command.

[Casey]

Swick.

[Brent]

Oh, okay.

[Casey]

Swick. So battalion can start the investigation. Group can start the investigation. Here's the kicker. Swick can start the investigation if they want, but traditionally it starts at a battalion or group level. That investigation gets initiated there, goes up to swic. SWIC pulls the tab, or that's their recommendation. Use the sock as the appeal and final say on it. So that's how the process works. If I haven't lost everyone with this nerd talk yet, I'm about to. Tim is now assigned to the SOD O Special Operations Detachment.

[Drew]

Oh.

[Casey]

Which is, oddly enough, SOD NATO. But so they're. They're. So they're really a part of, like. Like an intel type of, like, keeping an eye on Europe and counter Russian aggression. They were going to be called SOD in Facade north, but that was already taken. And so they went with SOD O for the last letter in Naito. So that's some people asking, what is SOD oh stand for? Never heard of it. I didn't either. That's where SADO comes from. Continue with this nerd talk. 20th group does not own the sod O. Even though it's full of long tabbers and guys from 20th Group. It's owned by the Maryland National Guard. Owns the SOD O. So you can stop. And I was kind of. And I was. I was pulling strings trying to talk to people from 20th group. And that's when I found out they're like, we don't own the sado. But this is. This is the problem. He's kind of in this scene, right? I wish 20th groups owned the sado because group administratively would fall underneath swic and they could start that investigation. The Maryland Guard owns Tim. They're not within the, you know, the rank structure, if you will, of swic. So we. So SWIC has to start this investigation. And of course, the Maryland Guard can do their own investigation and do their. And do their own thing, and they can both do it separately. So I know this for a fact are when I was like, hey, you guys need to tag USASOC and get them aware of this. They're aware of it. Swick has an Instagram, and you need to. You need to tag Swick and all this. And I went to their Instagram. They're not very active, so when you tag them, they see it like they're not very popular. Same thing with the Maryland National Guard. Maryland National Guard is. Does not have a lot of followers, a lot of comments or a lot of likes. So when you guys go and say, hey, what's up with Tim Kennedy? What are you going to do about it? Like they see that.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And it puts pressure on them. So I'll get you the, the Instagram handle switch. It's something dumb. It's not easy to make sure you guys can find it but. And I'll let you guys talk for a second and I'll let you know both of those. Those handles.

[Drew]

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[Casey]

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[Drew]

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[Casey]

I got those IG handles for you. The Maryland National Guard is M D Army Guard for. Some of you can't spell guard is spelled odd. It's G U A R D MD Army Guard Swick has a U.S dot Army SWCs U.S dot Army SWIX. Of course the US army has its own social media and they're a part of this as well. The US army can do something about it. Still part of the U.S. army.

[Drew]

U.S. army's entered the chat but.

[Casey]

But they have like a million followers. Maryland has. I said they are doing an investigation on it. Reach out to Maryland. Reach out to swic. I'm telling you, these guys monitor their social media and it matters to them that public perception matters to them because they're spineless, and careerism is everything to them. So don't make them look bad. You make them look bad, they'll do something about it. So don't be disrespectful. But anyone can ask honest questions, and that's what needs to happen. We need to ask honest questions.

[Tyler]

Chosen consulting says five finger death punch Bad company for the closer.

[Drew]

How much?

[Tyler]

20 bucks.

[Casey]

All right, 20 bucks.

[Drew]

You like five finger better or Bad Company's bad company? That's hard.

[Casey]

It's hard. It is.

[Brent]

Yeah. I'd say they covered it very well. They really did.

[Casey]

They did.

[Tyler]

Mr. Bood. Raven says have they ever replaced CRF teams with something else?

[Brent]

No.

[Casey]

That's a good question. Because they're. They were in limbo for a little bit. Do you know exactly what happened with that?

[Brent]

So the mission set shifted, as I understand it. But they are, I do know, officially back to SIF now.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Brent]

They are siftings. They're not without getting into documents and charters and whatnot. There's. They're still doing the stuff that they were doing.

[Casey]

Good to hear it.

[Brent]

So.

[Casey]

Yeah, good to hear it.

[Tyler]

Let's see. Can veteran. Thank you. Chase Lee back again, says. So I want to make sure that Drew gets my apology for last week about my comment of him needing to work more quicklier. Drew, keep up the good work. Love what you all do. Ever consider doing a Bergdahl episode? Well, thank you for the apology, brother, but if you asked me to hurry up, I probably should have, so it's okay.

[Casey]

I don't think the Bergdahl story is enough for like an hour episode. And I could be wrong. I mean, maybe look into it, but.

[Drew]

Yeah, you'd have to do a lot of.

[Casey]

Yeah, we got a lot that. That would put before that.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's not a bad one unless we get somebody that was on the mission.

[Casey]

I was in a hospital. I was not.

[Brent]

I don't know if you heard. He got shot right before. Probably because he messed something up.

[Casey]

Oh, no. Probably because he messed several things. When things go wrong, it's never just rarely. It's rarely just one thing.

[Brent]

It's Mike Sams as a battalion star major. I think he was a group star major. But anybody with a valorous award or a purple heart is the question to him was, what'd you mess up?

[Casey]

Yours, right? Yep.

[Tyler]

Patrick Diaz says just catching the live now after getting off work. Navies brought me to Alabama. Glad to be kicking it with the boys on another Thursday night.

[Drew]

Yeah, buddy.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Neil's locum says Burt's. What's your new thoughts on the Republican side blocking Epstein files release this week? Turdler, did you ever work with Sergeant Dick Slover? Slover. Slower.

[Casey]

Tyler. Did you know. Did you. Do you know Dick.

[Drew]

I'm not getting that one.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Drew]

Are you. Are you. Is that real?

[Casey]

Oh, it's.

[Tyler]

I see what they did there.

[Brent]

You go.

[Tyler]

See what they did there?

[Payne]

Almost got it.

[Casey]

The.

[Drew]

I'm too stupid.

[Magnet]

You can't get me.

[Brent]

I know. He was expecting that one to hit too. Like, what do you know the guy. Back to the.

[Casey]

I gotta look. I. I didn't. I didn't read into that. So I don't know the details of the Republicans blocking the. The Epstein files.

[Tyler]

They did not.

[Casey]

I. Yeah, I would have a hard time that. That is. I'm sure there's a partial truth of that, but I got to look into that a little bit more.

[Tyler]

I watched it. I watched the whole thing. What they did was they voted for rules that were going to come about for legislation in the future. Had nothing to do with voting for blocking Epstein files. And a congressman said that probably in a couple weeks they're going to address some Epstein stuff.

[Casey]

All right. Look at that. A team effort. The team effort tonight.

[Tyler]

That's it.

[Drew]

We. We. How kind are we?

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Casey]

8:30? 8? We're good.

[Drew]

No, I meant on the super chat.

[Tyler]

I mean, we're about a third of the way through super chats. Maybe almost half.

[Drew]

10 bucks and up.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah, we do. 10 bucks and up.

[Tyler]

10 bucks and up.

[Casey]

I don't know why I do this and tell myself because I'm still taking tank jokes, but I have to give you an update. I. I have a. I have a big. I have a decent. It's healing up. I got a decent scab on my knee and on my elbow and some road rash on my skateboarding. I wish it was that cool what you do. So I had nothing to do that they got done with work. I'm like, Pool was calling me over at the. At the complex. And so I went over to the pool. I just brought like two make ultras. I drank them, and I'm like, you know what? It's a sunny day. Like, let's. I'm gonna go back for more. So I walk back to my condo, I grab more, and I grab the frcc. Scooter that I got at that little electric razor scooter. Nice. And so I take that back to the pool, and it starts raining. And so when I come back, like, I Think you do? Like 20 miles an hour while I was doing like 20 miles an hour on the turn, and I just laid that hog down.

[Drew]

Are you serious?

[Casey]

I laid that hog down. 20 miles an hour. It was close to the sky and I slid all the way. Thankfully, I had a tank top on at least. It was a really thin one. I had to throw it away. Holes all in it. I slid. I must have slid 10 or 15ft before I stopped. And. Yeah, so I got. So I had to lay my bike down.

[Brent]

Did you take that old man second, too, after you stopped?

[Casey]

Oh, I did, yeah.

[Brent]

You didn't just pop immediately up. You're like, okay, I'm okay.

[Payne]

Okay.

[Casey]

So things aren't. Things aren't getting better. Between pulling my taint on a. On a. On a mechanical bull and crashing a scooter in the rain, what's the common denominator?

[Brent]

I'm two decisions. I'm decisions, bro.

[Casey]

I know, man.

[Tyler]

When I see you on that scooter, I want to see you with one of those strap helmets on.

[Casey]

After that story.

[Drew]

I need to wear helmets.

[Tyler]

See those little helmets? Nothing cool, though, towards bright yellow.

[Magnet]

Two tanks.

[Casey]

Yeah, that story is the equivalent of pulling two tanks. Not a cool story.

[Tyler]

All right, let's see. Tyler Dalton says shout out to whack. Like, whack a mole. All right. Barry, come train my SWAT team. Tyler, are you still a cop? Heard you retired.

[Drew]

Oh, man, I haven't announced that yet.

[Casey]

We haven't. How do you know that?

[Drew]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

Yeah. How'd you hear about it? Yeah.

[Casey]

Doing research.

[Brent]

Got the insider scoop.

[Drew]

Yeah, no, cop network's tight. I retired, so. Media full time now.

[Casey]

Congratulations.

[Brent]

Nice.

[Payne]

Congratulations.

[Brent]

Congrats on the retirement. Now you'll work harder than you ever.

[Drew]

I swear to God.

[Casey]

Right. For sure.

[Drew]

I'm seeing it.

[Casey]

Where's the SWAT team out of? Let me know.

[Tyler]

See, Mark Trivana says this is for Benjamin Brenton. Yahoo. Well played. Does your Sig hate extend to the rifles?

[Casey]

No.

[Tyler]

You use with the unit or just the unmanned genital removal pistols?

[Casey]

That is a good question. I'm glad you clarified that. My hate does not extend to their rifles. In fact, I. I like Sig rifles. I do. I just don't like their pistols. Generally speaking.

[Tyler]

Point man podcast says here's some money for Tyler's phone book fund. Closing Back Is the soul by corn. 10 bucks. Well, you're halfway there. All right, Ron Dog Mo says shout out to the boys. Wonder if Jack Carr is worried about the hottest new fiction authority taking some of his Business. Okay. Outro song Heaven and Hell by Black Sabbath. 20 bucks.

[Casey]

Oh, it's a race. I see that comment. They sell VHS types and 03 the military is not as cutting edge as you would think it was.

[Brent]

Same thing. It was on the tv. Like you brought in when the substitute teacher was at school.

[Tyler]

Yeah. The old TV cart.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah.

[Magnet]

With the strap around it.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yep.

[Payne]

Gosh, I had projectors when I was in school, man.

[Brent]

They're probably like all high five too, right?

[Tyler]

Old bastard can. Veteran says, Mr. Tucker, if you have the skills to be Delta, then expose Tim Kennedy, among others, and all your other accomplishments. Surely you can figure out a way to ship your coffee up to Canada.

[Brent]

Sounds like a Canada run.

[Casey]

It's. That's a. It's a Canada problem. If you can't ship to Canada, you don't want me to.

[Tyler]

Well, here's a problem. We. We. We're. We're a coffee and cigar business and it's hard to say we could. We're only shipping coffee.

[Drew]

Oh, they get weird about the SO opens.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they. They're an anti tobacco country, so they're pretty much Europe. It's rough.

[Casey]

They're pretty much Europe. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Rough.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

We try, brother. We try. Let's see. Hey, I've tried so much. I've had an individual Canadians contact.

[Casey]

You have.

[Tyler]

And I'm like, hey, man. Because they're good dudes are like big fans, and I've tried to send it to them and I still have problems just dealing with one guy at a time.

[Casey]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[Tyler]

Let's see. This is Provost. Some. Some Russian. I don't know. My recruiter helped me lose £92 to join. Nice. I'll never forget him calling me a fat trying to eat healthy by eating a meatball sub from Subway. I told him I hadn't eaten anything green since 9 11. Oh, that's awesome.

[Drew]

Blame the terrorists for your.

[Casey]

Oh, man.

[Tyler]

Gosh, I love that Jim Gaffigan skit where he's like. And what universe did we think that hamburgers are bad for us, but we can get beef roll five hamburgers into balls and put them in bread. And now we got a healthy sandwich.

[Brent]

I like it. It's a good concept.

[Magnet]

Jared lost a bunch of weight.

[Casey]

No, don't bring up Jared.

[Drew]

Some other things.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Brent]

That story didn't end the way we thought it was.

[Tyler]

No. All right. Biggest says marika. Apparently the US Army SWCs can't stand the heat of comments on their IG and deleted a Post. At least the Marine Corps and Air Force don't have people running around writing fake books.

[Casey]

You know what? You're not wrong. And we gotta. We gotta take that one on the chin. Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

Dakota Meyer gonna write a book. I'm just kidding.

[Brent]

What is that a thing?

[Casey]

But still. Still. Oh, no, he wasn't Marine. Yeah, yeah, right.

[Drew]

We don't know anything. There's just allegations.

[Casey]

Allegations?

[Drew]

Yeah. Nuts.

[Tyler]

It jumped on me.

[Casey]

I'll get there.

[Tyler]

At least I thought I'd get there.

[Casey]

You'll get there.

[Tyler]

There it is. D Can my. Yes. TK Moans when he wipes. TK Moans when he wipes. Maybe he's got hemorrhoids.

[Casey]

You know it hurts.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Gorilla Development Group says, love you, Brent. You are doing God's work. Average Joe.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Average Joe says three Creamsicle games, baby.

[Payne]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Games.

[Payne]

That's a Buccaneers reference. Oh, finally.

[Casey]

First one. Are there.

[Payne]

Are there three throwback jersey games we brought back. We got the. The white throwbacks this year.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

I think this is public. We're wearing them against Seattle and they're doing their throwbacks too.

[Casey]

So I think those jersey. I just said this to someone the other day. They're the most unique jerseys to me in this aspect. They were like other, like old school jerseys were cool then. Those jerseys weren't really cool. Yeah, people hated them. That's why they got this. And. And they did a great job with their rebrand.

[Payne]

Oh, yeah.

[Casey]

So they hated them back then, but now they're cool. People love them. And, and, and I'm. And I do too. Like when, when you guys throw, you know, the old Creamsicle jerseys. I like them.

[Drew]

The Steelers bumblebee ones.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those are bad. Those are bad. Yeah. Those were things that weren't cool then. And now. And now they're cool.

[Payne]

Everyone. Everyone. Yeah, everyone that I've talked to. Dude, we hated those when we were.

[Casey]

That's true.

[Payne]

These are the coolest jerseys ever. Hell yeah.

[Drew]

I got the next one. Sorry, Tommy C. 15 for 20 bucks says FRCC coffee at Delta and the squad is the way to go on a Thursday night. Brittany and Tiffany, keep up the solid work. Ladies, cheers from South Carolina Outro song the Star Spangled Banner by Madison Rising.

[Casey]

I know exactly which one you're talking about. Great one. We're on a three way tie now.

[Drew]

Bravo, whiskey 911. 50 bucks says. Would you be willing to host Dan Schilling, co author of Alone at Dawn, for his response to Pete Blaber's breakdown of Robert's Ridge.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah, of course it would.

[Drew]

I don't know who that is.

[Casey]

I. I don't. I don't know either. But here's, here's a little bit of. I don't see the problem I'm going to have with that at some point. Like you're just going to be like arguing of sorts, opinions. I mean, Pete Blabber was, was on the ground. He was the GFC on it. He walked. He walked the ground. He saw the full isr. I'd be interested to just like, what, what is, what is your biggest rebuttal to like, what's the biggest problem you have with one of his points? I'd be interested to hear it. That's an honest, honest question.

[Tyler]

Solidarity. Says five foot apart and hot tub. Unless you NSW Navy or someone who wants a studio tour. All right. Ellie Hunter says TK and Rob are chilling in the hot tub one night. Rob looks down and sees that a wad of Navy guys has floated to the surface and is stuck to his chest. He looks at Tim and says, dude, I told you not to fart in the tub.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Tyler]

All right, guys, keep it at least high school level. Let's see. Mesa says, Beef Tugger, can you provide specifics on how Shrek is full of shite? Aside from the Afghanistan we Todd and Chop a story. I feel like he's going to delay the book or make changes because of the TK stuff. Keep up the good work.

[Drew]

Hopefully he does. I mean, that would be good, right?

[Casey]

That would be the change that we're asking for. Like the truth is good enough. You were in the unit. Shrek that was good enough.

[Drew]

Or become Tom Clancy and write fiction.

[Casey]

Right?

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Casey]

Right. It's just, just a lot, a lot of embellishments. But I, I will wait until his book is out to hear his official long form statement about all the things he did. And I will do the same thing. I won't assume that it's wrong. I will ask people and just, just look for the truth.

[Tyler]

All right. Jimmy says it's only gay if you make eye contact. Also, Titty's apology was some horrible acting. I've seen better acting from corn stars.

[Casey]

Someone did bring this up and I'll see like your take on it. And while we're talking about it, I mean, if, I mean, you're a Green Beret, so you get an opinion. Allegedly. If, you know, just give you an opportunity to weigh in. If you want me to. No pressures. Give me, like I said, the, the option. But because we went through the rebuttal. Tyler, what do you think? Is it. Is it odd to you? Or maybe it's not the advantages or disadvantages. Why? The first rebuttal came as a video, you know, and had things to say, and the second one was like, he didn't face the camera and was just a written apology. Is. Do you find that to be odd? Or maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

[Drew]

I think we ripped through his body language so hard that he realized that. That, that. And lots of people broke down his first apology on video.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And just slowed it down. And his mannerisms. I mean, cops can tell when you're lying. You know, they talk to liars all day long. So it was really easy, you know, and just take that.

[Casey]

Take that part out of it. Yeah.

[Drew]

Why.

[Brent]

Why just remove that.

[Drew]

And it. Finally. Maybe he listened to a publicist that said, just make a statement.

[Casey]

I.

[Brent]

Okay, so just let's talk about it From. From the standpoint of, like, before this all even started, we talked about you were going to do this. And I was like, brent, why are.

[Casey]

You guys doing that?

[Brent]

And then when Brent gave me the explanation as to why he was doing that, because I didn't know any better. Like, Payne and I talked about it earlier, it's like, I didn't know any better. I mean, I'm thinking the guy's a national hero, and I have very close friends that are very close friends with. With him. And so I'm like, brent, why. Why are you doing this? And after Brent broke.

[Casey]

It.

[Brent]

Broke down the explanation, I was like, you know what? I understand, and I can see where you're coming from, all of those things. Considered, we all worked with a Tim Kennedy, if you will. It's the truth, man. That guy is on. In team rooms.

[Casey]

He's.

[Brent]

He's on a team, and he's done extraordinary things when the fact of the matter is he's. He's robbing people's stories or he's. He's placing himself in situations that he wasn't actually in. And you know what? Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at that, I promise you, you don't want that opportunity. When it comes to your doorstep, you have a couple of different ways of going about it. You either perform or you don't or get out of the way. And that's. That's the fact of the matter. We said it. If Tim was in those situations that he so claimed to be, maybe he would have performed at that level. Maybe he would have been that. That guy on the ground. But he's seen that guy on ground. I've seen that guy on the ground. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not. It's not something that you can just rob and take for your own and. And own it. And I don't know that he didn't get cornered into that. Like, we were talking about pain, and I actually pretty. Had a pretty good conversation about, like, was he put that expectation on himself, like, he had to be that. Does that make sense? And I'm not trying to defend him.

[Casey]

What he did is wrong.

[Brent]

No. No question about it. But was he pushed into that place and before he knew was too far down the road? I don't know. I don't know.

[Casey]

Here's like, it's a little bit of a defense. I've done a bunch of podcasts now. I've had people reach out to me and say on a story that happened 20 years ago, hey, like, that's. That's. That's not exactly how that happened. It wasn't. It wasn't like, it wasn't one of those, like, valorous, like, kill them all stories. It was just. I was like, you know what? That's.

[Brent]

That's.

[Casey]

Yeah, that. Yeah, that happened after the helicopter ride, not before it. And that's. And that. That wasn't true or that's not like, the. The accuracy of it.

[Brent]

Right.

[Casey]

But you can go back to other podcasts. I. I did. I don't know why I flubbed the timeline on. On that.

[Brent]

That's semantics, though, because that's right.

[Casey]

Wrong is wrong.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah, but it was. It was 20 years ago, and I did talk about that same instance later on, and. And I. And I got the story right that time. I. I don't. I don't know if Tim was. If it's one thing, I was like, hey, you messed something up, like, this one time. Never mentioned it again. I would have Grace. Like, I would.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Like, but when you write things in books, like, it's. It's right. When you say the same thing wrong over and over and over and over and over again. Like, you're saying, hey, this is like, it's not. It's not a. A misstep or a mistake. Once is. Like, once is I have grace. Like, I'm not. When I say I'm not that guy. I have. Have. Have messed it up. And yes, it wasn't to the degree of Tim, but I did. I'm not. I'm not infallible. And so that's not Like, I don't want everyone to think, like, hey, this is. This is what all of us Green Berets are on this. Are on this, you know, soapbox saying it's perfection or nothing.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

You really have to screw up really bad for us to say something publicly about it.

[Brent]

Yeah, I know that, man. I know. Like, I've known you for 20 plus years. I know that that's not the reason. But I. I questioned you authentically as a. As a brother. I'm like, hey, man, what's going on? And when you gave me the answer you gave me, I'm like, okay, I get it. I. I get it. And you're right. You know what I mean? So.

[Casey]

And. And in a weird way, I know this is gonna sound bad. Everyone. Everyone loves the drama, but they do this. I'm not mad at a lot of people initially that stuck up for Tim. I'm not like, if. If initially all you know is what you know with Tim and. And the same thing. Like, you just say, brent, I've known you for a long time. You're a good dude. And if someone came to you with a story that's bad about me, your first reaction be like, nah, I know, I know. Of course, you know. So it's not the initial reactions of people sticking up for him. At first I did. I was mad about that. But as this progressed, I realized we. I just know more than they do. That's. That's a human reaction. And at some point, they did learn it. And now a lot of people, I think some of those guys are getting heat for changing their mind. Like, oh, well, now it's like you just can't defend them anymore. Well, maybe they just know more now. And so they're willing to say what the facts. Yeah. And now they're willing to say what they know. So I just have a little bit of a softer. I don't position on it now.

[Brent]

I think societally speaking, we. We are so prone to react emotionally first to anything, which is garbage. Look at. Look at things objectively, get the facts, and then make your decision. But that's a. That's another conversation.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Because I'm sensitive.

[Drew]

Right.

[Casey]

All right. I know. Yeah. Go ahead.

[Tyler]

I'm getting a old super chat here, Joe Saunders. Here you go. Yippee Kaye. And it was a see song request for either Smashing Pumpkins, but it's at five bucks Smashing Pumpkins chair Brock or Tyler to sing Dolly Parton's nine to.

[Drew]

Five for five bucks.

[Tyler]

I meant it as a joke. All right, so there you go. There you go, Joe. I did it for you. All right, Canine Leo here, this is J. Don says, what was it like working with the canines and handlers at the Delta? Shared the podcast with our unit, and they love it.

[Casey]

Oh, man, those guys, everyone. What. What. What is really cool about the unit is, like, when. When. When you're a group, there's a lot of side jobs you have. There's just an additional duty that. That you have to do. Our commo guys are just como guys. Our medics are just medics. I say that, you know, a little bit, like, 90%, they still have to do other things. Our canine guys are the best guys in the world, and they have the most resources to do it, but, man, do they put time in working with those dogs. And they're. They're amazing.

[Brent]

Those animals are incredible.

[Casey]

And, And. And the truth is, and I know you're not saying this, but those animals are only incredible because of the amount of time those handlers put. Put in on those. They're capable of being incredible, and because of those guys, they get everything they can out of those dogs. Oh, they're amazing.

[Tyler]

Bravo, Whiskey says. Would you host Chris Knuckles Nalan, former NHL enforcer, and get him to talk about his father, Henry Nylon? Henry was former SF and past Green Beret member of the year.

[Casey]

I would love to have an NHL Chris Knuckles, enforcer. What? Yeah. What's the. What's the equivalent of. Obviously, be on defense? What's the equivalent of an enforcer on the football field? Safety line.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Could you put it to one?

[Payne]

Safety might be better because Linebacker, linebacker, you're in the box and it's all close. Safety, you can. You can sneak up and. Okay, you can enforce some things. You're gonna get a. You're Gonna get a FedEx letter in your locker.

[Brent]

Yeah. That stuff has got wild, man. You see hits now that you're, like, in there. What is it? Neck and shoulders?

[Payne]

Targeting.

[Brent]

Yeah, Targeting.

[Casey]

Yeah, bro.

[Brent]

Like, some of those hits, man. I watch Ronnie play football, bro. Come on, dude.

[Payne]

Grew up on Brian Dawkins.

[Casey]

Murder people the way. And I'm, again, this is me a little bit older and softer. It really is. I'm not completely against it, especially with guys that, you know, I, I, you know, I now live with tbis. I'm not gonna play some sad story like, I can't function. There's things like, I know now, like, man, I wish I would have protected myself a little bit more. And although these guys, yeah, they're getting paid a ton of Money. Yes. They know what they signed up for. So did I. You know. Well, I didn't make a lot of money. I know I signed up for, you know. I mean. Yeah. And it is, it is an older, more responsible person's job to look out for these guys. Yeah. I do think some of the quarter I think we've gone too far but I think the intent was right. Maybe we'll, we'll pendulum back a little bit at some point. Yeah. But I don't, I would say will.

[Brent]

Hinge to the side of safety man. And I do know like the whole CTT CTE discussion there was talk between the NFL and at least at fifth group we were doing like a. Of course all that data got lost and under the thing when they figured out what was going on but you know like yeah, these guys are taking licks bro.

[Casey]

So we used to. I think I told the story before once we were they. They put a overpressure monitors on us at the unit and we wore them for like a week and they, they came back and they got all the, the data. They're like hey, if anything over a certain psi is, is minor concussion minor TBI related and is harmful and and they were supposed to give it back to us to further and they never gave it back. And they were like no, we don't want to know.

[Drew]

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[Tyler]

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[Drew]

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[Drew]

All right, bye guys.

[Casey]

All right, I know we got a. I know we got a ton of super chats but I mean not to, not to fanboy out but it's not every week we have an NFL player like in the. At the podcast Studio. And I got questions for you. All right. And the questions I have are you kind of. Basically, there's always that connection that Special Ops wants to make to being a professional athlete or tactical athlete, things like this. And for me, and just in my experience, I feel like the best way, although I couldn't do it because I wasn't in your shoes, going from doing a CQB as a Green Beret and doing a CQB in the Delta Force was. I've had some people explain it like this to me. That's. I don't want to misrepresent it. It's like when people talk about going from college to the pros, like, the speed of the game is just unbelievable, and you can't grasp how fast it is until you do it. And I thought I was really good at CQB as a Green Beret, and I went to the Delta Forces. Like, I thought I knew a lot about cqb, and I thought I was fast, and I suck, and I have so much to learn, and these guys are going so fast. I don't know if I'm going to ever keep up with these guys. But then. But you slowly do. What do you think about that comparison and what was your experience going from college to the pros?

[Payne]

So I will do that, and then I will go back to something that you said two weeks ago that I've never thought about or resonated with, but you said it so perfectly. So to answer your first one, it's the same exact thing in college. You know, I thought I was a good college player. You know, I did enough to thankfully get drafted. And, you know, I was feeling like the man coming in.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And then we. When I first got to Tampa, we did a rookie minicamp, and I'm still feeling good, you know, feeling like I belong here. I can play. And then we had our first practice.

[Casey]

In the summer with everyone else. Yeah.

[Payne]

And so I'm on the field, and Mike Evans was on the field with me.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

I think he was at that time. Year 10.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And I saw him do something, and I looked at my tight end coach at the time. What the fuck am I doing on the same field with him? I do not belong here.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

And I mean, that. That happen. My rookie year was a whirlwind, man.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Seeing how fast everyone. How big and how fast these guys were moving, I'm trying to block a defensive end, and I'm like, I got to catch up, man. I got to catch up.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

So it's. It's very similar. Just going. You know, you kind of get to the top of this game, and then there's a whole nother world out there. And then another thing that you said to go back to, you talked about. You were talking about going from the Green Berets to Delta and just the culture of it.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And it's. It's something that hit me. Like, my college boys, those are best friends in the world, like those guys. We still go out drinking, whatever.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And then you get to this level where everyone's a professional.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And it's. It's very. Not. Not that I don't have friends on the team. I do. I mean, my best friends in the world, but.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

It's. It's not different. Yeah. You're professionals here and you're competing against each other because.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

You know, there's.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

There's five other tight ends, and we all want to make money and feed our families. So it's. It's a. It's a different ball game. It's different world once you get up to the. To the big leagues.

[Casey]

Yeah. It is funny you say that and use the word culture, because I've said, you know, I preach about culture a lot, but until, again, like. Until you see, like, a really healthy culture and you're a part of that, it's.

[Brent]

It's.

[Casey]

It's hard to really get people to understand, like, how important culture is. It's everything.

[Payne]

I was telling Casey in college, we. We might have taken culture a little too seriously. Like, it. I loved Purdue University. Hopefully, no Purdue alums are. I don't know how we won games. We were animals back then, man. We. It was such a good culture. I mean, that's. I. I knew what. Where everyone was from, where they went to high school, their families.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

I knew a few of their sisters, too, personally.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Just.

[Brent]

And they probably didn't mind.

[Payne]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Casey]

Like, he's a good guy.

[Payne]

Yeah. Yeah. Culture is. I mean, you. You can. You can win games or have a successful op or whatever you got. I mean.

[Casey]

Yeah. Just.

[Payne]

Just off really caring about the guy next to you.

[Casey]

Yeah. Besides that culture and speed of it, is there maybe nothing. You know, you don't have to have an answer. Is there anything else about the league that just surprises you, whether it be the business aspect, like, the things people don't see, practices, whatever. It is. Like, man, this is. I'm not, like, asking for, like, dirt. Like, say something bad. It's not that. Like, this is just. This is different. And you wouldn't know it unless you're in. It's not that.

[Payne]

Yeah, I would.

[Casey]

It's not that great.

[Payne]

The business side of it. Well, first of all, a lot of guys make a ton of money, and I did not. You know, I haven't been around a lot of money, but I'll keep that to the side. The business of it. I mean, you can get a guy that the team signs in the middle of season, he's next to you in your locker for a week, two weeks, a month, and you. I mean, you get close to this guy, you're sitting next to him, you're practicing with him. One day, he's not there. Gone.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And it's. I mean, it's cutthroat. I mean. Yeah, it truly is. I mean, I became friends with guys, and next week, they're in L. A. Yeah. All right. See you, man.

[Casey]

Yeah, sure. It hits home because. Because when you see that, you're like, that could be me, too. Yeah.

[Payne]

That was like.

[Casey]

Like it's not guaranteed. Yeah.

[Payne]

Got to stay away from the grim reapers upstairs. Reaper comes downstairs.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

Do you think the college game is turned more business now?

[Payne]

Yeah, I. I think it's terrible.

[Casey]

Did you. Did you completely miss the nil aspect of it?

[Payne]

I had it for two years.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

So I was in college for five. Had it for. Or didn't have it for three.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And that's. I mean, the transfer portal was kind of coming alive, and that was starting to get a little bad. But my last two. I mean, it was the wild west, and I almost think it wasn't so bad those first two years because no one knew how to take advantage of it.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

And now, I mean, it's. It's. I'll still watch college football, basketball, but, I mean, it's. It's almost ruined it without regulation.

[Casey]

Dion was looking for, like, a cap. Yeah. And I think. I think that's a good first step to it.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Here's something else, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I know I'm not, so you'd be silly to do that. Everyone's so scared of what nil to do, and that's a. That's a whole nother topic I get. Like, we could talk about that for way too long, and we'll never get another super chat, but everyone was scared of, like, the balance of power that that would swing. But we really haven't seen that. Like, you know, Texas A and M is the richest college in the world, and they're not winning national championships all of a Sudden because of Nil.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Like the big teams have maintained to be the big team. Like, I don't, I don't. I haven't necessarily seen like that, that shift of balance and power because of infusion of money.

[Payne]

100%.

[Casey]

But is it. But that's. You'd agree with that?

[Payne]

I would agree. I think there's, there's a difference between you can just go buy guys or you can develop guys that you brought in out of high school, turn them into your star players, and then if you're missing a piece, go get him and give him money.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

But you get schools like A and M. And I mean, I don't want to shit talk a bunch of schools.

[Casey]

But yeah, I get it.

[Payne]

You get guys that every year just buying a new roster and those guys aren't going to mesh well together. They're all out for themselves. They're not worried about the logo on their helmet and then you're just playing like pay to play. And yeah.

[Casey]

So the, which, which at the end of the day still means the pro. You can throw money around all you want. It's, it's the, the program is still what matters. And those guys were successful. Those guys saying like the, the, the, the big powerhouse programs weren't the programs because of, of money issues, they were the programs because of culture.

[Payne]

Correct.

[Casey]

And because of who they were and how they develop players. And that's not gonna change.

[Payne]

100.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

100 agree with you.

[Casey]

I think it hurts.

[Magnet]

Johnny Manziel, he was the top guy like getting all the money in college and then he played in the NFL and took his college to the NFL.

[Casey]

Yeah, Johnny Manziel. I'd. Although he wasn't a success story, I'd hang out with that dude. Hey, he made the most of, of fun wise. He made the most of what he had.

[Payne]

He said he went on an 8 million dollar BE.

[Casey]

How do you do that?

[Payne]

How do you do that?

[Brent]

I know.

[Casey]

Cocaine.

[Brent]

I think it's cocaina.

[Magnet]

He was just on a big podcast talking about he's 32 years old and they were asking him, hey, can you go back?

[Casey]

Right? He. No, no, again, like, not to get like too personal on things, but like he's not this, he's not the same. But I would, I would paint him in a similar light to some degree, like Baker Mayfield. I mean that in the same light. Very successful in college, very charismatic, you know, that did some outlandish. Did some outlandish things, but that was like part of like what made you like him. And, but he looked, he looks like he did a. And a better job of. I'm sure he made mistakes, you know, in the NFL. Younger, but he seems like he's developed and matured a lot. He's fun to watch. Is what's, what's he like in the locker room?

[Payne]

I mean, the best guy ever. So his first year in Tampa was my rookie year.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And he went out of his way. I mean, didn't have to. I'm a fifth round draft pick. Nobody. And he's, hey, Payne, let's. Let's me and you go grab beers this night and just take me under his wing.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Like, brought me to his house, met his wife for the first time. Just like really cool person, down to earth guy. And I mean, he'll tell you, I mean, he definitely made some mistakes and Cleveland was not a very good spot for him.

[Casey]

Oh, gosh.

[Payne]

But he's navigated his career so well and done so well for him. He's awesome. Human being.

[Casey]

People. People always talk about, like, Heisman, you know, winners and how they like their game doesn't translate to NFL and, you know, and just. And my, My theory on this is, well, maybe, maybe not. But here's the problem. When you're the best college player, you're gonna go to the worst team. And, you know, you think that's like the best place for. For him to thrive, for anyone to thrive at that time, to go to Cleveland.

[Magnet]

But Johnny Manziel went to Cleveland, too.

[Casey]

Yeah, that's right. He did. Yeah, he did it.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

He's like, oh, or Cleveland. They're on the verge of. I know. Go ahead. Good.

[Brent]

No, no, I think here's the deal. Like, they're so talented in college that they don't have to work to be good. And then they get up to the big leagues and they're like, oh, snap, I've got to work. And rather than either digging in and like, doing the work, they're like, continue to lead that lifestyle and. But I think, I think Baker made it over there over the peak and I think he's a better player for. Honestly.

[Casey]

Who's Oakley? They've been so bad for so long. Like, they got me rooting for them and they have, like, they've, they've turned the corner every year. They're like, ah, they're Them and the Jets. This is going to be their year. It never really works out. They're definitely getting better. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Anyway. All right, super chats. How to. How to talk some.

[Payne]

How to talk some sports Podcast now.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Heck, yeah.

[Drew]

I love it.

[Casey]

We got range. Back to gay jokes.

[Brent]

Give me a second.

[Drew]

They're in there.

[Casey]

Too. Huh?

[Tyler]

I had to kick a troll, so I got distracted. Let's see. That's been on that one. All right, Casey, you still rocking that subpar Spectre comp or have you purchased a professional gun?

[Brent]

This is the. This is the.

[Casey]

Christ.

[Brent]

Honest truth, when all of that stuff started coming out. Yeah, I sold every Sig pistol I have.

[Casey]

Really serious.

[Brent]

Absolutely. That scares me to death, dude.

[Casey]

That it could just go off.

[Brent]

That scares me as a. As an instructor. Like, no, dude, I can't.

[Casey]

That's. That's a liability.

[Brent]

I can't take that risk.

[Casey]

That's a good point.

[Magnet]

I just picked it up as a as against the.320.

[Casey]

As an instructor. Your fault or not, if that gun goes off, just pack up yourself. Like, you can't be like, oh, the gun did it.

[Brent]

Like, I can't.

[Casey]

You're gone.

[Brent]

Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't afford that risk, man.

[Casey]

Paying you a gun guy.

[Payne]

I am unfortunately.

[Drew]

Stared right at you.

[Casey]

I have three on yours too. There's two. So there's two types of gun guys. There's like, you know, and there's like, gun collectors.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And then there's, like, gun shooters. Don't get me wrong, gun collectors can be gun shooters too. You know what I mean? Are you a collector or shooter or. Or. Or the hybrid of both?

[Payne]

I. I would say I started as a collector. It was, you know, let me see how many I can buy. And then a guy actually just texted me. I don't know if you guys know if I'm allowed to give shout outs, but Eric from Barrel and Hatchet.

[Casey]

Absolutely.

[Payne]

I got with him and started training and shooting. And now. Now all my guns, I beat the piss out of them and I shoot the death. So.

[Casey]

And you go down there and you shoot at Bob Keller's range. Range works.

[Payne]

Awesome place.

[Casey]

Yeah, it is. I've been to so many ranges that are, like, just beat up and old and tired. And the first time I went to Bob's range, I was like, yeah, this is what. This is what I expect. It's outside of Tampa, Mead. Fort Meade. Yeah, Fort Meade. It's clean.

[Brent]

I think I've been there.

[Casey]

It's great. It keeps up with it. He's like, yeah, all this. Like, he's got some, like, sand areas. Like, I'm gonna saw this.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

And. And some other guy was, like, trying to talk about. I was like, no one cares if there's sand there. Like there's no return on investment of that. Bob's like, no, I'm going to slide it because it's. Because I want it. Nice.

[Payne]

I was out there.

[Drew]

There's.

[Payne]

What's today? Thursday. I was out there Tuesday. And he's out there on his riding mower just cleaning stuff up that he doesn't. His wife's opening a coffee shop on it. Oh yeah. They're doing such a good job down there. Yeah, she's awesome, right?

[Casey]

Just be on. Just the fact that she's still with Bob. She's Bob's wife. She's a saint. Bob's. Bob's great though.

[Tyler]

All right. David Hookstead is in the chat.

[Casey]

He says, whoa.

[Tyler]

He says, what's the best movie ever made and why is it red D? 1984 version, of course.

[Casey]

Of course.

[Drew]

Yeah, of course.

[Tyler]

Great work, guys. Enjoy some beers. You've earned it.

[Drew]

Thank you, brother.

[Casey]

Oh, so I won't even got Besh now. We. We. We have to like, like bring this down. We have to bring it down to a scope. That favorite. Favorite movie. First one that comes to mind. Favorite movie. Yeah, I know you gotta go comedy. Action. There's so many different genres. Name the genre.

[Drew]

Action.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Brent]

Probably Rambo, First Blood.

[Casey]

Honestly, Rambo First Blood. Not a bad one. Bang.

[Payne]

First one that came to my mind was Saving Private Ryan.

[Casey]

Sure. Ah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Tyler.

[Drew]

Terminator 2 judgment day.

[Casey]

I was thinking of one of the Terminators at.

[Brent]

You guys would be the Terminators magnet.

[Casey]

I can't think of anything not, not surprising days and confusion is probably as an action movie we went action and it's funny. He says Dazed and Confused and get the answer wrong. That's why it's my favorite.

[Brent]

That was completely on brand action movie days and confused. That was a hit hit movie, man.

[Casey]

I liked Blackhawk Down.

[Magnet]

That was one of my.

[Casey]

I mean it's a good one.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Drew]

We've broken out. We've tried to Pick rated the five best war movies hard to do Patriot 300. I mean.

[Casey]

Yeah, you got one. They, they. They went woke of sorts and went away from the base on the second one brought in like the badass chick and oh 300. Yeah.

[Drew]

It was just a money grab.

[Casey]

Good for you. Just. Just watch the first one again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Magnet]

Shooter was pretty good too.

[Casey]

Shooter drew you. You get an answer on this action movie?

[Tyler]

Oh man, I don't know. Just. Just old school with Commando. With.

[Casey]

Oh, Commando.

[Tyler]

Just shooting them all up.

[Casey]

No.

[Drew]

You know what's surprisingly a really good movie I watch all the time. Armageddon.

[Casey]

I believe that. Yeah.

[Drew]

Nobody. Nobody agreed with me.

[Casey]

Right. Well, it just came out of the blue. But, I mean, it wasn't a bad movie. I love. It wasn't a bad movie.

[Brent]

I think Lone Wolf McQuaid gets an honorable engine.

[Casey]

I don't even know. I don't know. Oh, my gosh. I don't watch.

[Drew]

He was in a movie called Delta Force, wasn't he?

[Brent]

I think he was.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And Delta Force, too.

[Drew]

Don't watch that. Just watch the first one.

[Brent]

Yeah, that's right.

[Casey]

Just watch the first one close.

[Tyler]

Cobra.

[Magnet]

Cobra.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I remember Cobra.

[Brent]

Yeah, I remember the. The movie poster from that one. And he had, like, a technique.

[Drew]

Yeah, that was a badass movie poster.

[Casey]

Oh, and I hope everyone in the chats remember this, like, how important movie posters were to movies.

[Tyler]

Oh, heck, yes.

[Casey]

Like, movie posters like you. We didn't really have trailers back in the day of sorts, like, yeah, the previews. But we didn't have YouTube. You can just go watch a movie to see the preview.

[Tyler]

We had to go to the newspaper paper to see the picture. And it had to be a cool picture in the newspaper.

[Magnet]

The only thing you had to know someone that knew that worked at a movie theater to get the movie post.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah. If you could get a hold of the movie poster, like, that was the old school trailer. That's all you really knew about that movie was, that looks awesome.

[Drew]

Yeah, bro.

[Brent]

You think about that culture. That culture raised us.

[Casey]

Like those action movies. They really did. Yeah. Everybody.

[Brent]

It's like a team room discussion.

[Casey]

It really crazy. Yeah. When you brought up Commando, Commando really brought back a bunch of really good old memories as a kid watching Commando stuff.

[Magnet]

Sylvester Stallone, I mean, he was one of the action like that guy back in the 80s, man.

[Drew]

Come on.

[Casey]

He was. He was the best. Drew now does impressions.

[Tyler]

All right. Papa Penguin pontificates says there is zero appetite from big army for anyone nosing around and potentially sof dirt dude charged for Levine's murder. Moved heavyweight seven SFG dudes. Drug and human trafficking. Then the coast X coast shenanigans.

[Casey]

Across the coast to coast shenanigans.

[Tyler]

Crickets.

[Casey]

I gotta argue with you there a little bit. If you're talking. Tell me what you mean by the coast to coast shenanigans. And that's. And. And that'll. That'll help a little bit more. 7 Special Forces Group. Like, those dudes got hemmed up like that. Like the Guy that brought in all the drugs on the. And the punching bag.

[Brent]

I don't know how he got caught for it.

[Casey]

He got hemmed up.

[Brent]

That's the thing. Like, you know the rumors and stuff. Like, I don't know how much of that is true.

[Casey]

You hear. Like, I do know that one's true. I do know. I know. But I also know he got caught. I know he got caught and he got punished. So you can't say like they don't want like anything to do it. But. But he's also saying, in fairness, he's. I think he's all saying big army. But this is what's crazy about it. SF and sof, they are pretty good. Usually. Yes. Don't bring up all the, all the. Some of the Navy stories. SOF is pretty good about policing their own. Yeah. They. Yeah. Ask us how we know. Like, we have lost some really good dudes over some mineral minuscule stuff. Which is why it's so crazy that if Tim Kennedy did an if. If everything he did. You did, would you still. Would you have had your Green Beret still or would you have retired with your tab?

[Brent]

No.

[Casey]

Hell no. That's the problem we have. You have to keep a standard.

[Drew]

Yep.

[Tyler]

Break the destroyer says signed bourbon bottles in stock when also Brent, what was average weight in unit versus now?

[Casey]

The next week they'll go on pre sale and the following week they should be available. So I. Everyone, like, we want to like, you should do a pre sale. I was like, I hate it when people do a pre sale. Like too, too far out. Like, what am I, what am I gonna get it? Wait for it. Yeah. So I didn't want to. I wasn't opposed to a pre sale, but I wanted to be close. So next week we'll do a pre sale. You only have to wait a week to. To get the bottles. I averaged about 215, 220 for most of the time I was in the unit. I'm right at 200 now. Shame. A shameful 200 now.

[Tyler]

Victor, our brother, we love Victor, man. He's always helping us out at FRCC whenever we need it. He's helped us move entire warehouses. So we really thank you. Victor met a gentleman that has three bronze stars and a real V device from Vietnam. He never went public online and he's open to go on the anti hero talk about it. Let's make that happen. I'm back in Florida.

[Casey]

Yes. Love Vietnam guys and Vietnam stories. I don't care what you did in Vietnam. I want to Talk to you.

[Tyler]

All right, Victor, give me a text man, and then we'll forward it around. Dark Borg says. Is that a Star Trek thing? Anyway, is there any chance the over top stories being sold by former operators an effort to not disclose ttps? Like saying it's legit to act retarded on missions.

[Brent]

I'm not sure I'm following as an.

[Casey]

Effort to not disclose ttps. No, absolutely not. I, I, I've told stories on like take the Dalton Fisher podcast. I choose not to discuss certain TTPs on, on missions. Doesn't mean I have to I just exclude it and talk around it. Like you don't have to go into like deep details to get the, the same story.

[Brent]

Yeah, no, no.

[Casey]

So no, absolutely not.

[Tyler]

Derek Care says breakdown episodes of the Tango Tungo ambush incidents.

[Casey]

Yes, that's, that's coming. I know we had to reschedule. We had to reschedule her. Yeah. One of the widows from that we are absolutely going to talk about that.

[Brent]

Is that, is that third group that was.

[Casey]

Yes, it was third group that got ambushed in Africa and those Green berets died in the ambush.

[Brent]

I got a guy for you.

[Casey]

I want to, I would, would love to talk to him. Love to talk to him.

[Tyler]

Patrick M5800 says mother Danzig for outro.

[Casey]

Oh yes. Danzig mother. And what was the, what was the.

[Tyler]

20 bucks.

[Casey]

20 bucks. Guys, we're on a one, two. We're in a four way tie for an outro song.

[Tyler]

Jackson Ward at. Sir, it says bring some black Spec Ops on. There are several. Diversify the channel and make it interesting for all of us.

[Casey]

Yes, I was in black ops.

[Brent]

You are black ops.

[Drew]

There's different than black Spec Ops.

[Brent]

Embody you.

[Casey]

I see what you did there. Were you doing?

[Drew]

Were you doing?

[Casey]

Yeah. I'm gonna reach out to Xavier, but he wasn't black. He's actually, he's actually Dominican, but we call him a racial chameleon because he's, he's that, he's that odd. This is sound bad. He's that odd brown and has that, that like in between hair. Like if, like is he black? Is he just like a darker Spanish? Like what is he? You know, what is this guy?

[Brent]

Like, what is your man?

[Casey]

And he can be whatever he wants to be.

[Brent]

There you go.

[Casey]

He was, he was, he was great to have. He's a great dude. We'll have him on.

[Payne]

One of my good friends on the team is half Samoan, half white, but every week we just pick a different. Oh bottom. A Mexican hat for Christmas. One year.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah, you would talk about just like a surprise. Z, our. Our cigar distributor, has. Has a nephew that was. That was in his warehouse. Guy looks country, as complete as can be. Kind of blondish hair, you know, lighter eyes, just. And talks country. And then every. And I. I thought I'd met him several times, just thought he was a. An old school country guy. And then Z said something in Spanish and he turned it on and just like, like, I was like, oh, oh, are you. He's like, yeah, I'm Cuban. I'm like, what?

[Magnet]

And he came over.

[Casey]

You're Cuban?

[Magnet]

When he was a kid.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah. He literally came over on a boat as a kid. I actually want to have him on. Tell the story. Because, as always, America doesn't hate immigrants. No, we hate immigrants that come here for the wrong reasons and only want to take everything from us and not give back. And, And. And countries that actually need, like, saving from. And he's a classic story. And he's like, great, dude.

[Brent]

Like the Russians immigrating to Cuba in the 60s.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

They were not safe in Russia, so they moved nuclear weapons.

[Casey]

We.

[Drew]

We. We don't hate anybody. We.

[Casey]

What.

[Drew]

What would you call. We question the types of immigrants that. We hold them accountable.

[Casey]

Hold them accountable.

[Drew]

They're the reason for being here.

[Casey]

That's right. You know, like, everyone should be questioned. I should be questioned when they are questioned.

[Magnet]

I'm questioned all the time.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right, well, I'm gonna open my big mouth on this last one. Okay, so it says, bring some black special ops on. There are several. Diversify the channel and make it interesting for all of us. Oh, oh, for it to be interesting for you because of someone's color. I mean, I don't know, maybe this isn't the channel for you because, I mean, I didn't grow up like, listen, we listened to 102 jams in high school here in Central Florida, and never did I ever call them up, say, you know what? You guys need to play some more white rappers. So it's interesting for all of us.

[Casey]

True.

[Tyler]

I really. Yeah. I mean, this is so un American. It's so gay to say that. It's not interesting because of the. We don't have certain people of certain color. That's racist. Get the hell out for all I care.

[Casey]

No. All right, I'm gonna be a little bit more lenient.

[Tyler]

I told you I was gonna open my big mouth on that.

[Casey]

No, no, no, you're. And you're. And you're not wrong. And I know this is how you meant it. I want to say, because intent, like, I just. People on intent. I don't believe you meant this, but it's almost like saying. By saying that, it's almost like. It's almost inferring that we, like, we keep them out, you know, and that's absolutely not true. We've never only looked for white people. We've only looked for stories. And regardless of their race, we will have them on them. And so to. And so to. And to look specifically for a race first and a story second. I. I think that's this disingenuous.

[Brent]

I legitimately had no idea we were talking about race.

[Casey]

I had a feeling at some point when I was making the joke, I'm black ops.

[Tyler]

And that's the way it should be. That's the way it should. All right, John, Finn. Check says boiler up. Beer money for the boys.

[Casey]

Boiler up. Is that.

[Payne]

That's Purdue.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Purdue. Yeah.

[Casey]

Is. Was there ever a. Like, a movement to be like, hey, boilermakers, like, maybe we could rename ourselves?

[Payne]

I. I had to tell a lot, and I still am not sure. John, don't get mad at me. What's a boilermaker?

[Casey]

Okay. There you go. Are you gonna tell. Are you gonna tell us a story? No, no, no.

[Payne]

I say a drink. Someone that worked with. Something with trains.

[Casey]

All right. If you don't mind, see if you can find the. The history of. Of the boilermaker. I think I've actually heard this story before, and I can't remember someone that.

[Payne]

Does something on train or why they.

[Casey]

Were in the boiler room. Something why they were named Steam. Not just what a boilermaker is, but why Purdue was named boilermakers. Is what I.

[Payne]

That would be a good question.

[Casey]

All right.

[Tyler]

Zape says how to layer down. H. Barb was waiting at home for me with some meatloaf. Speak up, Liberal. Sent from my Samsung smart tv.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

What is that all about?

[Brent]

I don't know.

[Casey]

I think it had to lay her down. May have been talking about my scooter or maybe had to lay. Or. Or maybe had to gets it home for me with some meatloaf. Maybe had to wait to lay down his. His wife. I don't know. It's hard to.

[Drew]

That's what you say when you lay it down.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Casey]

Yeah, I had to lay down my hog.

[Tyler]

All right. Biggest donut. He says it's plight. So plights is biggest here tonight. James Hatch was on a mission to find Bergdahl. He was wounded. His mwd Remco was killed. There's A famous photo of his with a lollipop in the bird. Injured with a fight club patch. Look up Touching the dragon.

[Casey]

Touching the dragon. I feel like if I look up Touching the dragon.

[Tyler]

Put your safe search on. All right, let's see.

[Casey]

Here's a choice. I'm just gonna write down touching the dragon. By the time I get around this in a few days, I'll be like, what. What is that reference to? Why do I write that down?

[Tyler]

Jay Burke. What's up, boys? If you all want to give me a ring, I have a story to tell on live about 1-501st Airborne. I will station up there for from 2019-23, which is also Bergdall's old unit. Be safe. Stay lethal.

[Casey]

Send us an email.

[Drew]

Live's open for anybody, baby.

[Casey]

Yeah. The anti hero podcast at Gmail Genesis.

[Tyler]

Says putting this back in since it's 10 and up. Save our allies. And TK broke committed international arms violations by entering Afghanistan without Guy Roa. I don't know issued weapons authorization permits.

[Casey]

So that. What he's upset about is there's a picture with TK with an AK47 as a civilian on the base. It. When you. He was not there on military orders. So he would have fell in on. On, you know, the regulations and laws of being a civilian. And there are laws that Afghanistan has about people, like any country of. Of people, non citizens carrying weapons. And there's. Now there is paperwork that you can get to carry a weapon. There's contractors and Afghan. But all those people had to go through the right paperwork process to do that. And because Tim's Tim Kennedy, he thinks he's above the rule of law and can just carry a gun whenever, whenever he wants. And that. That is an issue. I'll say this. That doesn't mean, though, that I'm going to lump Save Our Allies into this just because you have a rogue guy on the ground that wants to grab a weapon and be a cowboy. The podcast will come out. I've looked into Save Our Allies. Everyone should be questioned. So I'm not saying, hey, don't question Save Our Allies, but I do know they are. They are not Tim Kennedy. And there's a lot of like, hey, he was a part of Save Our Allies. So they. So, so, so they suck too. And, and I've looked into that. That's not necessarily true. So I don't know if I would make that connection without looking into all the good things that Save Our Allies does.

[Tyler]

Just got a text from my first responder firefighter Son, he just got his first structure fire.

[Casey]

Nice.

[Drew]

That's a big deal in the fire community.

[Casey]

There you go.

[Tyler]

Deal.

[Casey]

All right.

[Magnet]

The term the boilermaker refers to both types of drink and profession with historical roots in the Industrial Revolution.

[Brent]

Industrial revolution, Exactly.

[Tyler]

Well, that's when the trains were. That's when the trains were going.

[Casey]

I asked, I asked you to look up the term and how it relates to Purdue.

[Magnet]

Purdue. Purdue University athletic teams also nicknamed Boilermakers.

[Casey]

Seeming talking to the mic, see me.

[Magnet]

Early focus engineering and an association with the skills including bowl making.

[Tyler]

So they focus on engineering at this college.

[Payne]

Kept me far away from that. Let me go in those buildings.

[Casey]

Oh, man. Here's a question I got for you. When you chose Purdue, did you choose Purdue? Like basically just was it just a football move to choose Purdue or did or did the college itself matter to you? And I know that's for like a you question.

[Payne]

Yeah, for me it did.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

60 football, 40 school.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

Probably.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And I was, I got a selling and sales management degree.

[Casey]

Okay, good for you.

[Payne]

Not sure why that's what I picked.

[Casey]

All right.

[Payne]

But yeah, just having, having Purdue on the diploma meant something.

[Casey]

Okay. Yeah. And so as a follow up question, you can. And let me know, hey, this is, you can generalize them like generally is what people do or this is what I did. Did you did. Did your major. Picking your major, did it matter to you? Because obviously like what you're going to pick and you're also here for football, it's going to be a problem if you choose engineering. Yeah. Right. So did you have to, did you intentionally make a decision to choose a certain degree? He's like, okay, that is good enough or whatever. Absolutely won't interfere with football 1000%. Everyone do that or just you or.

[Payne]

Generally what I would say at other schools, probably not. People can maybe more free range. But I had teammates that are literally now aerospace engineers.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And seeing their, I guess you could say work life balance in college.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Good for you. I mean it was impressive, but yeah. I don't know how they did it.

[Brent]

They weren't the boys though.

[Casey]

No.

[Payne]

They weren't out Friday, Saturday nights for sure. But yeah, I mean, I'd say at other schools that maybe aren't as, you know, engineer focused or whatever, it's kind of more free, especially if someone comes in. I didn't come in knowing what I wanted to do after college, but some guys out of high school is like, oh, I have to be right this, I need to go get a law degree or whatever it may Be.

[Casey]

Can, can you do both? Like, can you pick a hard degree and be as good as you can be in football? Or like, if you pick a hard degree, it is going to affect, affect you to some, to some extent.

[Payne]

I think you can do it. If football and school are your only priorities, I think you would have to cut out social life.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

Because, I mean, and the way I looked at it, I have my social bucket, my, my athlete bucket and my school bucket. And a lot of times I took away from my school bucket, which the degree I chose, I was able to do so and still graduate and all that. But you would have to probably just kick over your social life bucket.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

If you were going to.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Payne]

But I've seen it done. I mean, guys that were. Elijah Sendalar was my quarterback my freshman year. He. He's an engineer and he's like one of the top engineers at KIA now. And he would have gone to the NFL if he didn't break his shoulder.

[Casey]

Oh, wow.

[Payne]

So it can be done.

[Casey]

Maybe he's the reason kia's been doing so much better. Yeah, he has turned it around. I would never own, like 10 years ago, I.

[Brent]

The resale on those things is like astronomical as well.

[Payne]

Shout out Elijah.

[Tyler]

Well, to dovetail that subject, years ago, I read an article. There was, there was, you know, something done at University of North Carolina. And a lot of the athletes, they didn't even. Couldn't even. I don't know how many of the athletes, but some of the athletes couldn't even pass. Like a high school reading.

[Payne]

Yeah, some of those as well.

[Casey]

That's unfortunate. It is, that's unfortunate. I mean, and, and I hate to say, like, shame on the university. Like, they're like, they will have a degree with your name on it.

[Payne]

Right?

[Casey]

Like, that's. There is more to life than football. Yeah. A thousand percent crazy to me.

[Brent]

There's like four things more important.

[Casey]

And, and unless you're, unless you're going to the University of Florida, I don't care if you can read or not. Florida. I don't care what you do.

[Magnet]

Were you in a fraternity?

[Payne]

No, we had, back in the day, I think that was more common. We had one guy that was. And he was a walk on. Didn't, didn't play. But he would show up to practices someday. Just sit in the back of the line and drink some water. That's crazy. A lot of guys do that and it's good on them.

[Magnet]

Tykes are big at athletes, right?

[Payne]

What's that? Pikes? Yeah, we had A couple baseball guys, I think were pikes at Purdue.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Tyler Dalton says Brent in Colorado. We'd love to have you. Tyler, you made a statement a few weeks ago go receivering to your career in their past tense. We cops, man. We got good instincts. So basically, you.

[Casey]

You were disclosed without disclosing.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You refer to your career in the past tense. The detectives in the chats picked it up.

[Casey]

All right.

[Drew]

Yeah, good.

[Tyler]

Taylor says, did you guys see the duty to warn Andy Stump posted earlier for Florida?

[Casey]

Yes.

[Drew]

Yeah, we were told. We can't talk about it. Right.

[Casey]

You. You were told I could do. I could do what I want.

[Drew]

Well, we.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Drew]

We get it from Andy. Sn.

[Casey]

That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've. We were. We've. We've been notified. You're looking at me a little conf. And I don't know if someone. Yeah. If I was like, I'm in for it, man.

[Drew]

What's going on?

[Casey]

Yeah, hold on. Let me tell you.

[Drew]

Payne's got his gun right here.

[Casey]

I got. Let me see if I can find it. Just real quick. Here you go. United States Army Special Operations Command duty to warn notifications.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, I saw this. Yeah.

[Casey]

This message should inform you of a recent duty to war notification regarding a potential terrorist threat targeting retired senior officials who previously served in the Department of Defense with roles in Syria and Iraq theater. The current geographic focus of this threat is in Florida. There's a whole lot more of it. But, yeah, I was. I was. I was given the message, and. And I answered. I said, well, I. I hope someone's given a duty to warn the terrorists that Florida may not be the place you want to do this. It's bad for your health.

[Brent]

It came through.

[Drew]

And one of the only.

[Casey]

Yeah, again, I wouldn't have picked Florida, guys.

[Brent]

Yeah, it came through in the. The company group chat, and it was like. Everybody's like, I'm not a senior official, so I ain't worried about anything.

[Tyler]

So not a good time to look like your brother.

[Casey]

We got him.

[Tyler]

We got him.

[Brent]

It's like the bag comes off, and it's like, that's not Brent.

[Casey]

They got a picture like, that's him. You've been on target before, Maybe. Look at his eyebrows. I don't know. Look at his nose. Does he got a scar?

[Tyler]

He got fat.

[Casey]

That. There's been some real debates on target of whether we got the guy or not. Throw it down for sure. Yeah. Not a lot of diversity on target. Okay.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.

[Casey]

And bad guys. They all Kind of look alike. They're all bad.

[Tyler]

Will Barrier says boy. Speaking of Nickelback last podcast lunchables are one of the only highly poisonous artificial snacks that I'll just never not like. Cheese and crackers with a Reese's pieces peanut butter cup. So effing good.

[Drew]

This is a grown up man, by the way.

[Casey]

Yeah. And there's a chance he didn't mean to say that. And his phone autocorrected that which. Which makes me concerned how many times you use that word.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Casey]

Yes. Where your phone's like, oh, did you. You didn't. You meant this.

[Brent]

Do you have a homie named Reese?

[Magnet]

My wife packed my lunches.

[Casey]

You're welcome.

[Tyler]

Oh, that was good. All right. TBD sear says. Did you boys catch Shane Gillis host the epies? America is back. Also, did you get to run any caliber you wanted? Within reason as a sniper in the unit?

[Casey]

And we had caliber choices. Yeah. Yeah. Of sort. It was not like a. A huge deal. We had three caliber choices if I remember off top of my head. Right. And yeah, so I could use it depending on. We had really had more to do with distance.

[Brent]

We had dose you guys had trace.

[Casey]

The and I'll hurt your heart a little more. That's just three caliber choices. I had several.

[Brent]

Oh, I know.

[Casey]

But the. One of the funniest. We should have brought this clip up. I think I sent it to you. But I sent it to you a little. A little late. Shang Gillisted one of the best trolls ever. He had his. His opening or his whole like monologue in SBS is epic.

[Brent]

I missed it.

[Casey]

The only one that I ever think was better than that is. What's that? British comedian.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Casey]

That's. There it is. Oh, it took all of us to think of one comedian.

[Brent]

The third one chat down is like, this is a retarded podcast.

[Casey]

Yeah. So he goes, hey, I want you guys to give it up. And he says, the girl's real name. I'll make it up. Amanda Burns, WNBA all star. Amanda Burns is in. Is in the audience and everyone starts cheering and the camera goes to this black girl and he goes, see, none of you know the NBA. That's just my friend's wife. That's my buddy's wife. It just shows. None of you know any of the players of the NBA. And they started laughing anymore because they just realized, yeah, it's true. You don't. You don't know any NBA all star. That was hilarious that he did that. He did a couple other like edgy. Edgy ones.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah.

[Payne]

She played into it too.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah. She laughed. She. I'm sure she knew what was going on.

[Tyler]

All right, let's see. If Tyler got oiled up and kidnapped by P. Diddy.

[Brent]

Oh, wow.

[Tyler]

And an elite team of TK Shrek, Marcus Luttrell and Corey Mills were sent to save him. Who would be the first to die and how?

[Drew]

Me. By myself.

[Casey]

Yeah. Blowed up for sure. I don't think they'd ever make it to Target, which means. I agree with you. You'd be the first one to die. Because they'd all argue about, like, who gets the rights to the book.

[Brent]

I knew exactly where you're going.

[Casey]

So they're never to make it to Target. So they. So they just decide.

[Drew]

I don't.

[Casey]

They. They just. Instead of planning and go from a planning session to a book writing session and then they fight it out today. Whose book this is going to be? It'd be bad.

[Drew]

Tyler's tied up and oiled.

[Tyler]

This is only five bucks. We're only ten and up. But this is pretty good. Also drew the accent you yell. Morika is Spanish shorthand slang for. So you've been yelling that for six months. Oh, there's better.

[Casey]

I. I could not find when it happened, and I. I know it happened at a. On an NBA court. That's all I know. I didn't know if it was the All Star game. What did you guys see? The guy that's saying the national anthem. And at the very end, okay, when instead it's like, you know, and the home of the. And he goes, gays. And then he doubles down and does like gays. Says it twice. And the crowd goes crazy. I mean, he said it plain. I don't think they know what he was saying. I would. I would like to imagine that, like, they didn't. They're like, I didn't hear that right. But is that in la they said his name? I can't remember his name. Off top my head now. Molly. Molly something. Molly. Molly. But that's. That's despicable. And you know what? I can have my Christian values. I don't put really. I don't really put my Christian values on. On America because. Because that's you. We live in a free country and do what you want. So it's. So this isn't some sort of anti gay gay thing. It's not. It's. I don't want you changing the lyrics of the national anthem for me. For anyone. It's the Lyrics of the national anthem. Is nothing sacred? Is nothing holy in this country? I. It's. It's crazy. Well, America is founded on Christianity. And for people to come here and then force their religion or their belief. I mean, just be quiet and watch what Americans do. You come here, you respect the country. Assimilate. Exactly. But they don't. They want to shut everything down. If you're white, you're in the wrong.

[Magnet]

If you're American, pro American, you're in the wrong.

[Casey]

Anything like that. If they're from a different country, they don't like you. It's.

[Brent]

I'm just unsubscribed to all that, man.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And everybody knows France is home of the gays. Everybody knows that.

[Casey]

All right, let's see the last NFL player we'll have on the podcast.

[Brent]

Roger Goodell's on the phone right now.

[Casey]

These opinions of those of our own.

[Payne]

I haven't said one word.

[Casey]

No. Which is even worse. I hate to say it. Which. Which is even worse. Like you can't have your. Your own. You can't have your own opinion about things. You know, be your opinion in your free speech. I don't even. I can't even. I don't want to. To. To. To ask you anything like that.

[Drew]

I thought cops had it bad, but I never thought about somebody that. It's like there's so many layers and there's so many people that could get upset about when, you know, oh, you'll get in the cop world too. There's no money involved. It's just one. One deputy chief or one major got butthurt because you said, you know, officers are fat. You know, you know, or brass is fat. But, you know, you get. So they have really. But you get somebody with a lot of power that's mad.

[Casey]

And again, it'll. They'll clip it so this won't get put in. And I already said it before, that stance I just took is not an anti homosexual stance. It is just a pro America and national anthem stance. Is. Is the stance I'm taking on that. Yeah.

[Brent]

You got the right to be whatever you want here. And therein lies the beauty of it.

[Casey]

And. Right.

[Tyler]

It's just like Salvador. It's not Salvador. Back in with $50. Thank you, man. Brent or Drew. Did you ever see the SNL skit that starred Eddie Murphy? James Brown's celebrity hot tub party. How do I know you're gay? You listen to Asia Closing song Overkill by Motorhome.

[Casey]

Someone has taken the lead. And with a Motorhead Request. Thank you, sir.

[Tyler]

Those were the days when SNL was really good.

[Casey]

Gosh, SNL still has some, like, some flashes of. Of really funny, but they are not.

[Drew]

When they. When they. When they went away from politics. I think once Biden went back into office or Biden went into office, they went back to humor because they could lay off Trump. And it actually started becoming funny again. Really laid off politics.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

I've been out of the SNL game for.

[Casey]

Oh, gosh, I gotta think of his name. We're so bad with comedians. What was the guy who did the George Washington skit? Do you remember that?

[Payne]

Shane Ghost.

[Casey]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Tyler]

Nate Bugatti or something like that.

[Casey]

We're gonna call it Colonel, but we're.

[Drew]

Not gonna spell it like that.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah. 2, 000 pounds will be a ton. And they're like, ah, and what will a thousand pounds be? And like, when it was like, if only it were that simple. He's like, 5,000, 280ft will be a mile. And they're like, what will half a mile be? They're like, nobody knows. It's just. It's hilarious. I think. I think. I think it was so popular. I think he did a second skit of it. That's one of the funniest skits.

[Tyler]

We'll have hot dogs. Are they made out of dogs? No. What are they made out of? Get out of the boat.

[Drew]

Get out of the boat.

[Tyler]

Get out of the boat.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

No. Real American ass. What's in a hut?

[Casey]

Oh, my gosh, it's so true. Oh, that was a good one. One. It was awesome.

[Tyler]

All right, let's see. Long stroke. 01 says. Brent, why not ask Pete about those sob stories? I am 100 sure that he had oversight of operations during that time.

[Casey]

That's a good question. Except Pete was in a different squadron and so all that. He had oversight of the operations that his squadron was doing at the time. And Shrek would have been a part of a different squadron. So it would. There would have been a changeover. There was no overlap there. Now Pete knows what. What's going on. And I did ask him about that. But at the end of the day, that would be like his opinion of sort. Not, I want to say opinion, because they. Yeah, they talk to each other. But he wouldn't have been directly there at the same time.

[Tyler]

Bravo Whiskey911 says biggest rebuttal. Alan Mack stated, Grim31 stayed on station after RTB was issued longer than Pete stated. Tons of hearsay. I understand Long time listener, first time writing. Appreciate the sacrifices and cigar and coffee shipments.

[Casey]

Hey, thanks for writing back and. And thanks. Thanks for saying that. If that's. If that's the rebuttal, I don't like Station Time, to me, isn't. Isn't like. Like, I don't want. I know you're not going for, like, a gotcha moment. Like, he was wrong on. On this. Like, I don't know if Station time is. Is a big, like, arguing point that would. That would break. Like, that would pull down his validity. I know you're not pulling down all of his ability, but it's station time.

[Tyler]

Zubi says, how's playing with Baker Brent? What enemy is on your mind right now, Tyler? When are you retiring? How's playing with Bakers?

[Casey]

I guess they got here late.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

But Baker Mayfield, we talked about.

[Payne]

Yeah, he's the man. So much fun to play with.

[Casey]

Just good.

[Payne]

I mean, someone said it the other day, he plays football like it's a UFC fight. It's true. It's a guy you want to play for. For sure.

[Casey]

The. These are things beat a dead horse. But, like, the TK thing, like. But when you. When you think someone is that person and. And they're not, like, hurts. It hurts in a weird way. So to hear that there's a lot of people who. Who think they know who Baker Mayfield is, and you want people's public Persona to be their private. And sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. Here's one. That of a guy that you think they're someone. And this is a different take on this Mike Lev Evans. Mike Evans. You said earlier that dude tattooed up, looks like a thug. Like you. Just like you. You judge a book by its cover, like people do. If you've ever seen a Mike Evans post game interview, that guy starts talking. Sounds country as can be, respectful as can be. Sounds like the nicest guy in the world. Like, well, man, I mean, that makes you think. Well, yeah, I mean, I had that wrong.

[Payne]

Nicest guy in the world.

[Casey]

Yeah. And I've always just heard really good things.

[Payne]

Gives back so much to Tampa and his hometown and I mean, just unbelievable human being.

[Casey]

Yeah. So you have a guy that does what, you know, the things that he does on the field, and you want to root for him, and then you find out that he's amazing guy. Like, oh, good. Yeah, I can keep rooting for him.

[Payne]

That's the good thing about Tampa, the culture wise, just what they've created. Like, we have no bad apples. Not. Not one person not even one guy that I'm like, I don't. You know, he's my teammate, but I wouldn't hang out with him. I mean, everyone there is just those nice, good people just so happen to be good at football.

[Casey]

That's what it takes. We. We save the unit all the time. We're not looking for the best guy. We're looking for the right guy. And when you get enough of the right people, whether it be on the field or on target, you're going to do amazing things. And you said it. You said it earlier. You're really excited about going this season. Like, you're like, I've never played with a. A better group of guys. Absolutely. Going. We're going into the season with, on.

[Payne]

And off the field, just the most talented, best group of people.

[Casey]

I'm excited to watch it. I'm excited to watch it. And I hate to say it, and it's weird. I don't get emotionally attached the way I do a college football. And in the South. The south, it's a big thing. Right. The Gators can ruin my weekend. And they do half the time. Hopefully not this year. But I don't really have a reason, like, to root for people. And I know you don't need a whole lot more pressure, but, like, I meet you, I'm like, I'm gonna watch. Yeah. These are good dudes. Like, I will be watching you guys. Yeah.

[Payne]

And I would. I promise you, I would tell you if we had. We're squared away.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

This is the spot to call people out, actually.

[Casey]

That's right. Yeah. If things change, you come back on.

[Tyler]

Somebody picks or gets piss me off.

[Magnet]

They all go to Mons Venus together.

[Payne]

What's that?

[Tyler]

Magnum handout says, I think Nick Palmisano hasn't gotten nearly enough heat. He's literally the one who wrote the book. What other lies has he peddled? Dude starts a company called Ranger up, and he wasn't even a real Ranger.

[Casey]

I'm going to give you a different take. I know people are here for some controversy. Let me just throw. Just devil's advocate, let me throw this back at you and say Nick didn't really have. When I thought about this just a little bit more. Nick didn't have a special operations background. He went to Ranger school. The Ranger up thing, that's. You can. I'll give that to you. You can have it. Wasn't a real Ranger. But what if he just wrote down what Tim told him to write down? Like, his job is to write a book. His job is not to fact check it. His job is to write what Tim tells them.

[Drew]

And maybe he did fact. It's fact check with Tim.

[Casey]

All right. I could be completely wrong on this. You could be completely right. But that. I mean, that is. That is an option. I don't know. I don't know.

[Tyler]

Johnny Anker says, CAG daddy just finished quote Inside the Delta Force, unquote today. What are your thoughts on it, Tyler? Your arms look smaller.

[Casey]

Unprovoked. Wow.

[Drew]

Could attack my height, but.

[Casey]

Did you ever read Inside Delta Force by Eric Haney? Do you know what book I'm talking about? It would have came out a little bit right before our Q course time. One of the. There are four guys and the Delta Force to write a book, oddly enough. Our founder, Charlie Beckwith wrote a book called Delta Force. I read that. I've read that one, too. I believe the next one would have been Eric Caney. So there was a long period of silence there. And then there's the Dolph Fury, which is Tom Green, which is his real name. And then.

[Brent]

That's a good book.

[Casey]

There's got to be one more of that. How am I forgetting. Oh, gosh, Pete played.

[Drew]

So on your mind, it was off your mind.

[Casey]

And the only one people aren't happy about, really, is. Is Eric. Eric Haney's insight. Delta Force, because he's. He talked a lot. He talked a lot about selection. Big. No, no. Yeah. He talked about OTC Big. No, no. But generally speaking, it was a good book. I have heard people say, like, I know at the end of the book, he talks about, like, they were hunting a bad guy, ended up being, like a DOD carrying, like, Green Beret in South America, and they killed him. There's. There's. There's some questions to that, but I do know most of that book is. Is unfortunately too, too close to real because he shouldn't have wrote about the things he did.

[Tyler]

All right, we get this a lot, but the end is kind of new. But it's 50 bucks. We love it. Solidarity. What do you guys think of John Shrek McPhee? He said at the end of his interview at SRS that Timmy worked for him and that he was a good guy who needed to be humbled. Also, do you think Sean Ryan did a good job interviewing Gavin Newsom?

[Casey]

The Gavin Newsom? Yeah, We've talked about this direct thing before.

[Drew]

I watched a couple clips.

[Casey]

He was a good guy. Need to be humbled. I mean, it's. It. That's. That's just pretty straightforward. And I think. I think that's probably the truth still though.

[Brent]

That's pretty much still this.

[Casey]

But yeah. As well say there was a time in. In my 20s that my team prop probably should humbled me. That's.

[Brent]

That's kind of the evolution of the.

[Casey]

Opera, but really that is the evolution of the operator. And it seems like they didn't do a good enough job to make. To make the. To make it stick. Yeah. The Gavin Newsom thing, you guys been. He hasn't. As far as I know, he hasn't released the full. Full podcast. When did the whole thing come out? I've watched a lot of the pre. Okay.

[Payne]

Two days ago.

[Casey]

I've seen a lot of the previews for it and por. Sean's taking some heat. Oh my gosh. He's getting beat up in the comment section about it. The what? As. I'll say, like as. As an outsider, if you will, as a consumer. What. What are. What are your thoughts on this?

[Payne]

I was. I don't want to get grilled here, I think. And Gavin was probably playing to what he thought the audience was, but it seemed like, you tell me if I'm wrong. A lot of the points he. He was kind of leaning like our side or into Sean. Like he would say something. He'd be like, well, my party has this wrong. I think he said that.

[Casey]

Like, he did say that throughout the podcast.

[Payne]

Politician. Yeah. So he's. He's playing into that, which was surprising, I guess, to say.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And. And Sean went after him a few times. I think he. He bit his tongue a few times where maybe he should have. Like for one example, he was said clips instead of magazines, but saying the large capacity clips and you're gonna outgun the police and all this stuff. And. And there was really no response to that.

[Casey]

And then.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

The problem that I saw that he doesn't have a Jamie like Joe Rogan does.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Magnet]

And Gavin was coming with some statistics and numbers and he wasn't.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

Going after him on those because he couldn't.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

So good point. Go ahead. What? I don't know.

[Brent]

I think Sean for. I think God bless the guy, he's tackled a lot of stuff out there that a lot. That a lot of people won't touch. And I think this is probably one of them. I haven't seen or heard the episode, so I'm kind of talking out of turn here. But from everything that I've seen Sean do, I think that his best intentions are at heart. You know what I mean? Be it's Kind of like when Zuckerberg went on Rogan, you know, Rogan was pulling punches on all that stuff, you know, and I'm not saying that Sean was pulling any punches or anything, but I think that he wanted to have a conversation with.

[Casey]

With Gabby.

[Drew]

Always say, you got to give. You give the other side of what you.

[Casey]

If you don't, if you don't, if.

[Brent]

You live in your echo chamber, then you're just like, you're just as bad as everyone else.

[Payne]

He did say at the end of it, he was like this. We had a discussion, not a debate.

[Casey]

You're right.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah. Me and Tyler talked about this. It's a. Nancy Pelosi could come in this studio, and guess what? I'm going. I'm going to be respectful to her. She is a congresswoman of the United States of America. That. That doesn't mean I won't debate her or give friendly, you know, pushback, but I'm not going to be a jerk to anyone that holds a political position.

[Brent]

Right.

[Casey]

Because it's the position of. That I respect of. Of the United States or of the state of California. I think I'm just. You ask for opinion, I'll give it to you. I think at some point, because me and Tyler talk about this too. Like, there's only going to be so many war stories out there, you know, and so many police stories out there. Like, you're going to run to the Internet at some point. And I think he's pivoting. Joe Rogan's content is endless. It's endless. Like, they're just discussions. And he has an endless supply of famous people. And Sean may be pivoting to be like, okay, let me. Let me open up. You know, my, My. My site picture a little bit. And I think that. I think Joe gets away with it a little bit more. I think Joe's. I think Joseph. It's not a slight at Sean.

[Drew]

I think Joe's the godfather of podcasting. Joe rogan is the OG. Like, we're talking shitty laptop webcam, like, 20 years ago or whenever started. Just the. Joe Rogan is talking on a camera. You're right. He can get away and that get away is not the right word.

[Casey]

But, like, he has the diversity.

[Brent]

He has the audience, too. You know what I mean?

[Casey]

He's. He's a student of a lot of things. He. He lives fitness, he lives science, he lives philosophy, he lives politics. Like, he's. He's very smart on. On a lot of things.

[Drew]

Dmt, like, six times, too. So he stuff makes you diverse in.

[Magnet]

A lot of different things.

[Casey]

But again, and I think.

[Magnet]

I think Sean didn't question rocking the mic. He didn't know you.

[Drew]

It's on a swivel.

[Magnet]

He didn't question enough of what he was saying is what I'm. Is everybody about.

[Casey]

And I think it's. I think it's. It's in. In their delivery because Joe is very back and forth. Sean is more of a. Like, he likes. He listens to a story. He'll. He'll add in things like when he wants to. He just has a different thing. So when you're going to bring in Gavin Newsom and with your base, they're going to want you to talk back and forth with this guy. When. When Sean is just more of a. Let me hear your story. I'll interject a little bit. He's been very consistent about that.

[Brent]

Absolutely.

[Casey]

And I think it's one of those things. I think he tried something new. He'll either have to. If he's going to continue to do something like that, he's going to have to change his approach a little bit, and he's either going to do that or he's going to stop doing Gavin Newsom interviews.

[Drew]

Well, I mean, we. But we've had these meetings, I mean, these unofficial sit downs where me and Brent just go, you know, kind of like, what's the trajectory factory? What's the year? What's it look like out there? A year out. And, you know, he's absolutely right. Like you, there's only so many people we can bring in the studio before. It's like not saying it's the same thing over and over because people would. We have an audience that likes that, but it's like there's not enough people out there.

[Casey]

Yeah. And every story deserves to be told. So we'll. We'll find them. I don't care if. I don't care if it's the same. Oh, it's another Green Beret in Afghanistan. Yeah. This story is way different than the other Green Beret in Afghanistan. Understand, like, it's experienced. Right. His story needs to be told. Yeah. So there, you know, there's a. There is. I just said there's not. But there kind of is an endless supply of that. But there's a large supply of that. But it's not endless.

[Brent]

Where the demand is. What the.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

The catch is.

[Casey]

Yeah. I think. I hate it for Sean. He's getting beat up on it. And again, I say it all the time. I think intent Is, you know, that's how we should judge people. I think his intent is right. Yeah. I just don't think it may have. And you don't know how it's going to work out until it's already done, already over, and you let your people see it and comment and then you're.

[Magnet]

Like, huh, okay, well, they gave him a gun too.

[Payne]

So, yeah.

[Brent]

Here'S the thing. Like, here's the thing with all those people that are giving Sean, like, pushback and all this stuff. This is going to make a lot of people upset. But your opinion doesn't really matter.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. To his 5 million views, your opinion doesn't matter.

[Brent]

No. No matter what it is, there could.

[Drew]

Be 20, 000 people that are pissed. That doesn't hold a candle to the rest of the.

[Brent]

I'm gonna voice in a comment section that I'm upset.

[Casey]

Okay, Give, give, give me a second. Let me spin this into a positive, like, just for a second. Right? So you just said. And as soon, as soon as you said, I agreed with you, someone's like, well, he's, he's kind of a snake. And he's gonna placate to that side because he's on like, that side's podcast. Sometimes, though, you have to give for. You know, we just got, we got four hours of Gavin Newsom giving his, his opinion and if it ain't his, and he tries to go back and, and, and say that something different to the other side. Yeah. Guess what? What's your. What, what's your real take on this? Because now. So he gave him rope to hang himself. And that's. There's actually, there's, there's, there's, there's a positive in that. Yeah.

[Magnet]

Because now you can go back and see the interview when you. If he does run for president. But you said this.

[Casey]

That's right.

[Magnet]

Podcast.

[Casey]

Right. You said this on, on the largest.

[Magnet]

Right.

[Casey]

Well, I guess we'll call it probably one of the second largest podcast.

[Brent]

I think it is.

[Drew]

Probably.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

So there's, There is a benefit to be had of just letting a guy talk sometimes.

[Brent]

It's working for him for sure.

[Tyler]

Jay, Frederick says, Tyler, what are your thoughts on Lexi Poly, Lexi poll policy, and Lexi Poll banning knives for law enforcement?

[Drew]

You spell Lexi Poll for me.

[Tyler]

L, E X, I, capital P, O.

[Casey]

L, Lexi Police, Lex Lexington, Lexi next to the stage. Lexi Pole.

[Magnet]

I'm coming to the stage.

[Drew]

I don't know, but if.

[Casey]

I don't know I said it like that.

[Drew]

If you email the antihero podcast gmail.com. i'll check it in real time and let me know a little bit more. And I won't, you know, obviously don't want you to pay again, but I need a little bit more context.

[Tyler]

Cool hand Dan says TK is just like Four Leaf and Tropic Thunder. Tim, never go full retire relief. Ordered my FRCC 5 pound twice and anti hero swag shirt. Y' all cool if I fly down for a live episode?

[Casey]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

I'll just chill next to Mr. Rip Van Winkle beard dude. Oh, love it. Absolutely. This is Michael Zendry. $20 for the boys. Always. Did you guys also. Did you guys see Navy Seal Jason Redmond's response on TK's apology? Y' all need to ease up and forgive him. That V star in my family. Bronze star. My family was from World War II. Sindri name has been in all wars, I believe.

[Brent]

Well, okay.

[Casey]

It's.

[Tyler]

Thank you for your family service.

[Casey]

It's hard. It is. I don't believe it's right. I do have a hard time, like, coming down on Jason Redmond. Be like, no, you need to. You need to hate people. Like, that's like, that's. That's an odd stance to take. I mean, if his biggest fault is that some as bad as an apology, it was that someone apologized. He's like, I. I accept your apology. It's hard for me to get mad at him, but I don't. I do think if he holistically stepped back and saw what he's. What he's lied about and what he actually apologized for that. I don't think you're on the right side of this is. Is what I would say.

[Drew]

I think my opinion is with that stuff. And all these people that came out supported tk or the people that weren't financially tied to him, that tried to stick around as long as they could, just the people generally in the community. Kind of like what you were saying, Like, I had no idea. Is that when they give them a platform or they vouch for them, and then all this happens. When you're in this sphere, your credibility is all you have. So gambling and saying it could work for one person going, I up, man, I'm sorry. People will forgive you. The other person go, I up. I'm sorry. And like, well, you're a idiot. And then it's kind of credibility.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And then if his credibility is questioned, then his income is affected, and, you know, and everything could go downhill so fast. So you just try to avoid it.

[Casey]

Yeah. Like, oh, I mean, a better way of saying it is, like, which I couldn't like. For me to really give you my opinion on Jason Redmond's accepting an apology is what does Jason Redmond really know about the Travis. You know, the. The. The travesties of Tim Kennedy? Yeah. If that's all he knew was the Bronze Star and at the day. He did say. I said I had a bronze Star. I don't like that part of the apology was. Was straightforward. Everything before that was. Was trash of him, basically trying to cover the rest of his lies. So it really depends on what Jason knew. And. And DJ speaks very highly of. Of Jason as. As a good man. So. So I'm gonna give him benefit of the doubt and be like, if that's all he knew, then I could. I could understand why he would accept that apology. But you're going to have to educate yourself more before you come on a public platform and say, this is good enough for me. Like, at the end of the day, that's also like a chat or a nice challenge to you, Tim.

[Drew]

A public platform. He had him on his. Jason Redmond has a podcast, right?

[Casey]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, I think he had Tim on.

[Drew]

Yeah, he did.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Solidarity. Back in for 20 bucks. It says 20 to mute tainted Nate. I do believe I kicked him.

[Drew]

Well, at least you got 20 bucks before you did.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Casey]

All right.

[Tyler]

USMC Marcus says. Tyler, congratulations on your retirement. I still have several years to go. Being on LEO in a state like Massachusetts is an unsupported and uninspiring journey. I can only imagine. Brent, congratulations on the new FRCC bourbon.

[Casey]

It's a early congrats, which give me a couple more weeks, and let's see. Let's see if it's. If it's the biggest mistake or. Or. Congratsworthy.

[Magnet]

You sound like me when I moved.

[Casey]

Yeah, I'm nervous. We put a lot of chips in. I'm nervous.

[Tyler]

Howdy, folks. It's Ned Flanders. Brenda, what watch or watches did you wear at the unit? Another watch question. That's funny. Also, after just short of two weeks, our little girl is home from the nicu.

[Drew]

Oh, man, that's awesome. That's awesome.

[Tyler]

FRCC variety pack secured to celebrate with the boys when I get back to work.

[Casey]

Thank you.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Had a suito at one point. I had a couple. I had a couple watches that were. That were unit issue, and I can't remember, I hate to say it. Which. Which. Which ones? I got a Garmin watch as well. I like that one.

[Brent]

Yeah, The Phoenixes.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brent]

The early Suntos were red.

[Casey]

The early Suntoos were. Were good. Then I had a Garmin and I would.

[Tyler]

I would.

[Casey]

They're expensive. I would buy a Garmin again because of their battery life. And I. And I. And. And they're better integrated with. With your smartphone now than that. That was kind of. Wasn't even a thing.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Much of a thing back then.

[Brent]

It started back then. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[Casey]

I'd go back. Well, what do you say at the end there? I forget what he said. So. Something else want to address Congratulations on the bourbon. No, no, no, that wasn't that one. It's Nick the nicu. Oh, that's what I want to say. You want to talk about a job? I just. I don't think I could do the job. Nurse at a NICU unit. I don't. Yeah. I rail on ptsd, like, a lot. Like sometimes, like you just got a man up. Those nurses go to work every day to see the most innocent people of. Of our society. Babies struggling for their life. I don't know how you do it. My gosh.

[Drew]

And. And when you said. When we talk about ptsd, it's getting into a profession usually combat oriented, that you. We say, you know what you're going to see, you know what you asked for. But I mean, when you go into a profession to care for people, they didn't. They're not asking for, you know, for that.

[Brent]

That happens a lot in the healthcare profession as well.

[Casey]

I don't know. Man. Man. I'm sure there's all sorts of. I'm sure there's a lot of nurses in our. In our. In our chat right now, but I'd imagine, like, I'd imagine. Do you get assigned to nicu or is that. I'm sure it's a little bit of both. You either get assigned or you volunteer.

[Brent]

For specialty or something.

[Casey]

Yeah, you'd think.

[Drew]

But.

[Casey]

But you know what? That's. But that's kind of part of my argument. If you're a man and you know what war is and you volunteer to go to war and. And a few. Just being judgmental here. Yeah, I know. And you don't see a whole lot and you let that little bit break you. Come on like you need to be okay. When we have these women who we say are these weaker vessels that aren't as mentally tough are going into work every day to see sick and dying babies, and they deal with it. They can deal with it. You can deal with war buddy solidarity.

[Tyler]

Back again. Says favorite movie has got to be Tombstone.

[Casey]

It's a good one.

[Drew]

That's a good one.

[Tyler]

Is His Eyed Neil for Kurt Russell. Wyatt Earp and Cody Johnson while I'm at it. No Diddy to have Kurt Russell's mustache, I promise. No homo.

[Casey]

Oh, I saw a document. I wish I could remember what the documentary name was on Wyatt Earp. And it was good. It was like. It was like the true story at that OK Corral. And the true story is even crazier with drama of.

[Payne]

Of.

[Casey]

Of Wyatt Earp having an affair with the sheriff. Sheriff's girl, not the sheriff's. I think you rewrote history and how that didn't work out well for him when he got into legal troubles with the shootout. Because it's the. The true story is so much crazier almost than. Than. Than the Hollywood story. Oh, it's crazy.

[Drew]

Hey, how are we doing on super Chats?

[Tyler]

We're getting. Here we are. Do you see this?

[Drew]

Yeah. Okay, cool.

[Tyler]

Here we are. This Zulu whiskey. Last week you said tall mounts are gay. Not a gotcha question. 90s Delta used aim points on carry handles, which is almost or same height as GBR's mount. When why did Delta go lower and Seal Team 6 go taller?

[Casey]

They went lower because that was a necessity. The carrying handle was an in. Was an integrated part of the upper. So it was like. So but as. As soon as it progressed and they could fix it, they did fix it. So hope that answers your question.

[Tyler]

Papa Penguin says Coast coast shenanigans isn't referring to the foundation, but the dudes with a clubhouse who were behaving in a less than professional manner. And since I'm partway through a bottle of bourbon, vote for best rock song ever. Immigrant song, 100 bucks.

[Casey]

Immigrant. So that was a good one.

[Drew]

Is that what the one I he. Somebody commented Immigrant song like oh, like 20 times.

[Brent]

Oh, that may be him.

[Tyler]

Oh, that's later. So I haven't got to it yet.

[Casey]

I thought that's what you were going to talk about. And. And I. And this is. This is the problem when you don't like know the full story. This is like a slide on you. This actually a slide on the media or just this culture. If so if you get. If you get accused of rape and that's the story, like everyone runs with that story. It's a big story. And then after which it was a big story. A Delta Force guy got accused of rape and then what is like two years later she eventually drops the charge and says, yeah, I was embarrassed.

[Drew]

Credibility is rude.

[Casey]

It didn't happen. And then. Then you get found innocent in a court of law. They can run that story all they want. 1. They're not gonna run that story. But that's. That's. That's the end result of it. You think that's what happened? Again, not a hit on you? Because that's what hit the news, and that's what you think. That guy never did that. And the girl recanted it, and she. And he was found not guilty on all charges.

[Drew]

Did she catch charges, though?

[Casey]

She should have.

[Drew]

Should have.

[Casey]

She should have. Yeah. And. And. And now after he retired, he died in a traffic accident, you know, and he's. And he's not even out here to. To. To clear his name. And it's. And it's killing me. I absolutely hate it. I can't think of that guy's name right now, and I'd love to say his name, so that way I can. So I can clear. Someone's gonna help me out in the super chat. I feel horrible. I will think of the same here in a second. He was a good dude. He was a good dude.

[Tyler]

Bravo. Whiskey. It says, for 20 bucks, Danzig. Mother Outro.

[Brent]

Mother's like mother.

[Casey]

Well, it's crushing it in the numbers, but it's not crushing it in the monies. The monies. But they're halfway.

[Tyler]

They're halfway there at ODN861. A hundred dollars says. Love the show. Watch. Every week I donate in honor of Rob o' Neill for the song Persona Non Grata. My Ex.

[Magnet]

Wow.

[Casey]

I love it. That was rc.

[Magnet]

That's the second song.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we say if it goes over a hundred, we'll. We'll. We'll. We'll play multiple songs within. Within. Within. Reason.

[Tyler]

Yeah. No. Two Free Birds.

[Drew]

Although it's such a good song, I would do it.

[Tyler]

It's wonderful. All right. Kenny Forbes says 20 bucks more for Mother. My Danzig. It was my walkout song for Powerlifting Nationals. Oh, also, is that a Blue Forward Observation Group hat board.

[Payne]

Yes.

[Casey]

Ford Ward.

[Tyler]

Ford Ward.

[Payne]

I believe the blue one is gonna get it wrong. Andy. There's a fund for Andy, who I believe you can probably talk more.

[Brent]

I'm not sure. I know that they. Those guys do so much for. For charities and give away so much money. It's ridiculous.

[Casey]

We get asked all the time about those guys. And I do know. I do know there's some. You know, I do know there's some negative things that people have said about them. And I'm like, I don't. I don't know enough about those guys. I just. I just don't. I think it's.

[Brent]

That's by design.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Syntech says good to me. Hey, boys. Love the show. Did y' all see the unsubscribe podcast? Bring up the bag of grenades?

[Drew]

I did not. If you can send us the antihero podcast gmail.com. just send us some. But unsubscribe and give us the time. I mean, and I'll try and watch it, but I don't even know what episode it was on.

[Casey]

I got a pee.

[Tyler]

Brian. Shag. Nessie says just graduated afbmt. Air Force.

[Brent]

Air Force Basic training. Okay.

[Tyler]

They push. We are going to war with China in next two years. Thoughts? Also, Drew, my friend Mike Hunt says love the pod.

[Drew]

All right.

[Tyler]

Tell Mike I said hi. We're in China in two years.

[Brent]

No, I don't think so.

[Tyler]

No. There's too much money involved.

[Brent]

Too much money.

[Drew]

Cyber war in China for, like, 10 years.

[Tyler]

But, yeah, both have too much to lose, especially China. Like, everything. All right. Biggest donut here. Purdue is the best STEM school in Indiana, and it's a better school than iu. I've worked with their grads as a government contractor, and they're insanely smart and talented people.

[Payne]

I agree with the last two sentences. They didn't let me in the STEM building things. Better than iu. Yes. And smart, talented people. Absolutely.

[Tyler]

Heck, yeah. It's a gorilla development group. Says not only do you not read my messages, but you get up and walk away when I have a super chat.

[Drew]

Red again.

[Tyler]

Love you. Bread. Keep killing you guys. Nice.

[Magnet]

That's the logo right there, right?

[Casey]

I know.

[Payne]

It's the P. The P. And then. Yeah, the.

[Drew]

The.

[Payne]

This is the.

[Tyler]

Let's see. This is. Danny says. You guys ever think about doing a podcast about Bo Bergdahl again? That's like the third or fourth. We were the first 47th. Something's on station. Looking for the kid.

[Drew]

Did something come out with him?

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah, maybe. What made that break the news?

[Tyler]

Let me finish this. My tune changed after listening. Danny Smethurst, 7101 varsity. I read it.

[Casey]

That's it.

[Drew]

And scene.

[Casey]

Did my job. I was. I was. I was with Devin the other day, and I came across the social media of these. These two guys making up fake Bible verses, and it was hilarious. And Devin had the insight to make some for me, and I wanna read it for you guys. This comes from the book of Brintacles. Brinticles 1:1. In the beginning, there was man, and man stood tall and man peed forth, unbent and unbroken. Ventricles 17 and low. Brent saw a man sit to relieve himself and was sorely vexed. He rent his shirt and cried out, have the warriors fallen? So far I gotta. Did you. Did you go pee?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Did you sit?

[Brent]

I made good potty. No, I stood. You stood like a man.

[Casey]

Thank you. Thank you. Why, just a few more like a Christian. They're not all great, but Brent's ten Commandments of Throne War. Thou shalt not. Thou shalt not sit unless struck with plague or d. Injury. Thou shalt aim with honor and wipe the rim. If thy fail, thou shalt not bring thy phone into battle. Focus, warrior. If thou must sit, do so like a king, not a court jester. That gives. That gives an opening to sitting. You know, there's a pandemic of men sitting to pee. Who are these men exactly?

[Magnet]

Old people.

[Casey]

Yeah. Oh, man. The. To hover is cowardice. Plant thy feet, face thy destiny. If. If thy woman enter while thou pee. Flex. Come on. That one's gonna stay. I was gonna stay. Honor thy father and teach thy son. From toddler tech to tactician P. Young one standing up strong and brave, Let thy aim falter. After drink, a true soldier holds the line. Let not thy aim falter and on the seventh day stand. For squatting is never holy. I think we can. I think they're the. I think the super chats could do a much better job of this of, like, making up, like, fake Bible verses like. Like right out of Second Opinions.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Across.

[Tyler]

Across the urination.

[Casey]

Yes. I want. I want to see some good fake Bible verses.

[Tyler]

Let's see here. Joe Saunders says, yippee ki. Yeah. He says, pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. The Replacements. One of the best football sports quotes ever.

[Casey]

Just saying the Replacements is old, but every now and again I'll see it, like on a rerun Lazy Sunday. And I don't change it, and I don't change it and it's. Then that's a good movie. That is a. That is a kind of almost like a little bit of an under the radar movie. Like, not a lot of people. Like, that's one of the greats for sure. But it. It should be talked about.

[Brent]

You're not seeing it on TBS yet. You know what I mean?

[Casey]

That's more of a.

[Tyler]

Like one of those Papa Penguin back in again for a hundred dollars. Public service announcement. Bourbon results in making bad decisions. Immigrant song. Immigrant song, Immigrant song.

[Casey]

And so on.

[Brent]

I want to know what Pablo does.

[Payne]

Throwing them around.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he pontificates. Says it right there in his name.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

That's what he does.

[Casey]

What he do.

[Tyler]

He pontificates. All right. Jay Burke says with the Bergdahl story earlier that very same battalion when I Was there at 1-501st RBC was the reason why the battle of Wanot was such a massive F up. The email has been sent to y' all talk soon.

[Casey]

All right.

[Brent]

Oh, wow.

[Casey]

I did my report and SLC on. On. Yeah, a knock at the time. On. On the battle of what not. That's a crowd's a crazy one.

[Tyler]

Draco Daddy says happy Thursday, boys from hurlburt field. Long time listener, but first time live. Just sparked up an FRCC. Charlie in honor. Brandon, have you ever worked with U28s? Enjoy the beer money.

[Drew]

Hey, we got to do the Patreon.

[Casey]

All right, I'll just answer this question. The U28s, I believe, are the spy planes, right?

[Brent]

Got the dish on. On top, I think.

[Casey]

Do that. I'll look up U28 and I'll answer.

[Drew]

You make sure the Patreon giveaway is for a flatline fiber company sling. I did. I showed it on Patreon. It's multi, multi cam style sling. Do me the honors, man, and hit this screen, and it's gonna give you a number. 67. Not that you can see it, but 67. 69 would have been cooler. 67 is Matt Duel. Looks like Pennsylvania, but it doesn't show your whole address. I don't want to read it. So, Matt Duel, you are the winner of a flatline fiber company sling. We will be sending that in the mail along with some cool other swag. Thank you for the support, guys.

[Casey]

In my mind, what I thought the U28 was, was, was a different plane. I looked it up and. And I've absolutely worked with. With U28s and they have. They have been the indirect demise of a lot of bad guys. Yeah. Great planes. Great. Well, what's attached to them is great, great, great, great capability. Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right. Old bo here for 50 bucks says if case dog ain't wearing his full hide gator snapper licensees boots, he may need to be BFG ec excused from the cast. Ain't an old son.

[Brent]

My man Bo. My man in your boat, Darren Bohem. Love that boy.

[Tyler]

What is the best friend?

[Casey]

What?

[Tyler]

Excused.

[Brent]

There's really no telling. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. Bo was in the course with both of us.

[Tyler]

New Orleans Creole, kind of.

[Brent]

No. He's from the great state of Tejas, and he would probably accuse. You want to fight him?

[Tyler]

Well, he's really close.

[Casey]

The old. The old t. State as. As he refers to it. Killing me. What? Is BFG excused? Hey, man, I got a little. I got into the cabbage a little bit, so I can't see my phone. That's what I figured.

[Tyler]

Oh, there it is.

[Casey]

All right.

[Brent]

That's right.

[Casey]

I know he ain't, bro. Would. Would you. When you could have come down for a live. I want you to. Casey. Oh, boy. They ain't ready for that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we are, boy.

[Casey]

I know. With that. I know you. You have. You have what I call an infectious country accent. I don't have one until. Unless I hang out with you for too long, and I'll. I'll start. I'll start acquiring one.

[Brent]

You wouldn't understand this podcast.

[Casey]

All right, Bo. I just want to call you brother. Love you, bro.

[Brent]

Love it, dude.

[Casey]

Oh, man. You know, I went to rednecks and paychecks in Texas, and he came out and hung out with me.

[Drew]

Oh, he met you out there?

[Casey]

He met. He met me out there.

[Brent]

Yeah, he came out. He took. He took me and my wife out to dinner when I was out there teaching one time.

[Casey]

He's doing well for himself. Don't let that deep country accent fool you. Both doing well.

[Brent]

Hey, he's a dad.

[Casey]

Son. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Lone Star Oil Gas. Says. Who has a more tactical cuck chair, Robbie o' Neill or Timmy K?

[Casey]

Hard to say.

[Drew]

These guys hate this.

[Casey]

Hard to say.

[Tyler]

I don't remember what.

[Drew]

I don't know what's worth calling a grown man a. Calling a grown man a. Or a cook. What's worse, like, if you would say.

[Casey]

It'S someone's face, for sure. Stores. Yeah, I believe it's. I believe that's turning, like, to the. And I just said I wanted to be a little more professional, and I'm out here throwing around this garbage, but I think it's like the. The male version of. If you call a girl a. You know, like, that's. That'll get them going. I feel like cuck is like the male version of that. Like, whoa, hold on.

[Drew]

But you can joke about calling a guy a cuck, and it's not as like, you got to watch it. Like, Brian, you being a. And I think it's a joke. And you're like, dude, I don't know you like that.

[Casey]

That is. That is true.

[Tyler]

John. Thanks for the 10 bucks. Really appreciate it, man. We couldn't do it without you, Hugh. Janus.

[Casey]

I got him. Nice. Who's gonna quit? Rage quit. He's gonna rage, quit.

[Tyler]

Son, I think that you have a condition. You might need to see a doctor. We've got a great one. Chris was on here last week. If you have one of those. All right, here's a riddle. There's a pond with one lily pad. After each minute passes, number of lily pads doubles. It takes 24 minutes to fill the pond with lily pads. How many minutes to fill? Only half the pond.

[Brent]

I'm not doing that.

[Casey]

Well, you went to an engineer. Focused.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Don't look at me throwing this over your way.

[Payne]

Give me 20 seconds on it.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Each minute passes.

[Magnet]

He literally said he was dumb and barely made it through college.

[Payne]

Something with compounding. That word should be used too.

[Tyler]

I know it's gonna be less than 24 minutes.

[Casey]

Just solved it. Let's stick to our strong points, shall we?

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Brent]

I would like to point out the third super chat.

[Payne]

I. I hit grown men for a.

[Casey]

Living, primarily with my skull.

[Drew]

What was that like? I've always like. You okay?

[Brent]

Magnet had a late residual. It was like a joke.

[Drew]

Yeah. What was it like going from. From college? Was the hitting different?

[Payne]

Yeah, I mean, just the. The size because you get hit. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I. I took some licks in college. I'll show you a funny video. But yeah, people are faster and stronger.

[Drew]

Now because I feel like. How old are you?

[Payne]

25.

[Drew]

All right. I feel like if. At. Near anywhere near 25, if I was hit because of. My body's not trained, but any 25 year old, if they got hit at the caliber that you get hit, it's gonna crush them. It's gonna really injure.

[Payne]

I mean, even. Even towards the end of my college career after a game on Saturday, first couple years.

[Casey]

Little close for the mic.

[Payne]

Oh, sorry. Moving around. Sunday, feeling good. Monday, Tuesday. Now, like, we play a game on Sunday and Thursday, if I feel myself again.

[Drew]

How much do you get? How many days do you like? So you play a game Sunday, right? What's it like?

[Casey]

Like, what's a schedule?

[Drew]

What's Monday? Practicing or.

[Payne]

Yeah, so Monday we'll do pretty heavy lift. The science says flush it all out as quick as you can. So maybe some bikes, a lift, watch film, do meetings. Tuesdays off, then Wednesday you're back into practice.

[Drew]

What's a meeting Tuesday?

[Casey]

Yeah, I seriously said about the science. Yeah.

[Payne]

That is crazy. Like watching film of the game. And then kind of getting ready for who you're playing the next week.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Magnet]

Sleeping.

[Payne]

Sleeping.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Yeah. Tuesday's a big. I try in the season to go and shoot on my off days, but our drive and laying in bed sometimes feels a little bit better.

[Drew]

What? What? Like, what? So when the season's done, what's up, what's it. What's your schedule? Like, so, like, your seed, your official season's over.

[Payne]

Yes.

[Casey]

So for you guys this year, like, after the super bowl, what are you gonna do?

[Payne]

Yeah, after the Super Bowl. So season's over and then we start. Option. It is optional. I shouldn't make the quotation marks. Optional activities. I think it was April 17th. Season ended middle of January.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

So I'll travel, hang out with friends, and then start training on my own. Normally, like, March. March 1st.

[Casey]

The. What? Where were you at when you got drafted? Were you. Were you at home?

[Payne]

Yeah. We. My mom and sister live in Charleston, so we rented a house on the beach there.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

Just the family.

[Drew]

That's so cool.

[Casey]

Did you have the heads up? Did you know you were drafted and kind of where and who? Like, did you have that insight?

[Payne]

Really? No clue Who? I knew. I had, like, good meetings with the Bucks, so, I mean, if you, like, gave me a top five, they were probably in there.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And then I knew. So day one's first round, no chance. Okay. Day two, second and third, probably no chance.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

And then day three is four through seven.

[Casey]

Okay. And where'd you end up going?

[Payne]

Fifth. So I knew if I was gonna get the call, it was gonna be on day three.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Payne]

So day three, sitting around, fourth round goes by. Middle of the fifth round goes by.

[Casey]

And then I'm like, yeah, the emotional roller coaster. Yeah.

[Payne]

And my agent's like, hey, man, just hang on. Like, okay, should be coming, should be coming. And then finally I got the call, and just the biggest.

[Brent]

Oh, gee.

[Drew]

Do you have it on video?

[Payne]

Sure.

[Drew]

Yeah, I know your mommy.

[Payne]

At the time, my mom was living in Tampa. He got super lucky. So I walked out. I played a little prank on him because I'm a shithead, but I walked outside and took the call by myself, did all the talking to the staff and everything. And then I came back inside, and it hadn't gone on the TV yet, because they normally call you three or four picks before, and everyone's kind of looking at me. And I was like, no, that was just my hometown buddy Matt, seeing what we were doing. So I sit back on the couch, and they're all like, damn, and then it went on the TV and.

[Casey]

Yeah, they freaked out.

[Payne]

Freaked out.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Payne]

It was a cool day for sure.

[Casey]

When do you think, like, it. It really, like, like, set in. Like, I'm going to the NFL.

[Payne]

So the, like.

[Casey]

Is it like that day, the next, like the whole week? Like, I get it. Then you have that whole, like, reassurgence when you actually sign in. Like, how does that.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

What's that?

[Payne]

So, so emotional for me. It never really. I mean, I got the Congratulations. Yeah. And then it never really. That first day that I was telling you about when I was on the field with Baker, I was in the huddle with Baker Mayfield, Mike Evans, Chris Goddamns, Tristan Works. I sat there and I was like, this is real.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Payne]

I'm here. My feet are right here. That. That's when it.

[Casey]

These are people. These are people I watched on TV. Now I'm in a huddle with 100.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's a pressure right there.

[Payne]

That's when it hit me for sure. And I was like, I gotta get my together quick.

[Magnet]

But fifth round pick, what was that overall?

[Payne]

171.

[Casey]

Right.

[Magnet]

And wouldn't Tom Brady go 199?

[Payne]

199.

[Magnet]

199.

[Casey]

Yeah. Would Brock Purdy go?

[Payne]

The last two.

[Casey]

244.

[Payne]

The last one.

[Casey]

Whatever. The last one.

[Magnet]

That's crazy.

[Drew]

I had no idea Magnet was so football. Sports.

[Casey]

He's not. He just googled it.

[Magnet]

I love talking about.

[Tyler]

You got a fantasy football team.

[Magnet]

I don't play fantasy football.

[Casey]

No, I don't.

[Brent]

I gamble.

[Drew]

No, I don't like it that much. I just know everything about blackjack.

[Payne]

Like a man.

[Brent]

I gamble on football.

[Drew]

I get. When I gamble, I gamble.

[Tyler]

All right. Cody Bishop says, promise my homies I could get their name mentioned on the squad cast. Give them a shout out. Drew Ski. Okay. That's Howie and Herrick. I did it, brother. All right.

[Casey]

Nice.

[Tyler]

T. Pitts for 10 bucks. Thank you, buddy. Joshua for 20 bucks. Thank you, Jefferson. Newbie, any chance of Pat Payne as a guest? I think that would be a solid show. Keep getting after it, gents.

[Casey]

Yeah, I thought I could be. When we got the medal of Honor, I was like, oh, he's a public figure now and a friend of mine. I can get him on the show now. And he does not like public speaking. He doesn't. He like. He. He does well with like. Like a script. It's like. And. And I'll say this, and he's. He's still. He just. He doesn't like the limelight. Like a lot of those middle honor guys. This is why I give Medal of Honor guys a pass. I do. I know people want me to go after that Marine. It's different. When you write a book and you're looking for the spotlight, you're actively saying, like, look at me. Your story better be right. But you're a Medal of Honor recipient. That. You didn't. You didn't ask for that.

[Brent]

Entirely different.

[Casey]

Yeah, you didn't ask for that, and you didn't ask to be a public figure, but you're going to be one. And I think Pat tries to do his little public figure stuff as. As he can, but he's a great representative. He's a great.

[Brent]

He looks the part, buddy, you know?

[Casey]

Yeah, for sure. He's a great. He's a great dude. He really is awesome. And he does. He does a better job than I do. I hate to say it. Like, Of. Of checking in and which good. Really? Like, you'll check in on me and be like, hey, how you doing? Or just give me an update. And it's just. It's really humbling because he doesn't have to do that. You know, his life's pretty busy right now.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

Which is your friend that went to Harp?

[Casey]

Harvard. Yep. Yeah, I'll take that later.

[Tyler]

Christian Jones for 20 bucks. Thank you. Message was retracted. Now you get interested. All right. Stealth canoe. They don't make a lot of noise for a hundred bucks. Very good. Thank you very much. No question. Just supporting my dudes. Keep up the good work, the great work. And remember, always kiss the homies good night.

[Brent]

Idle in the mouth. I cannot get out the mouth.

[Tyler]

Y.

[Drew]

Gay man.

[Casey]

Not us. Not us.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Magnet]

Thank you.

[Tyler]

T Bone says Payne, I need some insider info. How is Chris Godwin's recovery? And can I pick him to get me another fantasy football championship?

[Payne]

Sorry, T Bone. Can't do it. Sorry, brother.

[Drew]

Classified.

[Payne]

20 blocks.

[Tyler]

We tell you have to kill you.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Casey]

I could probably tell you more about. I was about to say his stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now I can probably tell you more about the Dutch force, so you can tell you about the Tampa Bay plus and certain things.

[Tyler]

All right, Joshua. He says Blabber never addressed the claims that Chapman was making calls on the radio after the point. Blabber said Chapman was killed.

[Casey]

I thought about that. I hate to say this. I. I did know that, and I thought about that after the interview. I just kind of got caught up in him telling the story, and that was something I'd meant to address and I did talk to him about that later, and I hate to say that I can't remember what his answer was directly, so I don't want to paraphrase him or get it wrong. I did talk to him about that and he did have an answer of what he thought it was. And it kills me. For the life of me, I can't. I can't remember enough about it. So I. I don't want to be wrong and have Pete go. I didn't say that. Why would you say that? I did talk to him about that later.

[Tyler]

Cody Bishop back in a second time. Promised the homies I could get their name mentioned on the squad quest. Drew, Ski. Give them a shout out, which I already have. Howie and Herrick.

[Casey]

All right.

[Tyler]

All right. Is It Nice use NICU. NICUs that. I said nicus are full of current and future xy.

[Casey]

Oh, God, that's.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's cold, bro.

[Drew]

Yeah, that's cold, bro.

[Tyler]

All right, Brett, what's your experience? Been working with psyop, Drew. Best DEFAC on fbnc, usa, jfk, swc. One more Rica. That's all you wanted to hear.

[Casey]

Oh, I know the acronyms, Drew. You guys killed him. He got psyop right. Which, which is hard. I want your take on this as well. I didn't have a very good interaction with psyop, and that's not me bashing psyop. The side guys on the ground were great. They wanted to do good things. They had like, it's just clap. Even though they're technically, you know, working with special operation units for them, for, for them like to really like get some leaflets out or some like cool PSYOP campaigns I want them to do. The approval process took so long and it was so hard to get them to do something cool. Like we're, we'll, we'll. We'll have already hit the target.

[Brent]

It's a strategic level decision to use those guys.

[Casey]

Yeah, they're. They're hard to lead. Yeah. They're hard to use tactically. Strategic. They're great. Yeah.

[Tyler]

The.

[Brent]

Get the guys though, or the guys and gals. I mean they're bang up dudes. You pretty much. I mean we could pick the guys that were going with us. The guys or girls were. Are going with us. So I mean, we use the same ones and it was most of the.

[Casey]

PSYOP campaigns that, that we kind of use. We, we did ourselves.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Because. Because we didn't have to. To do something about it. One of the greatest PSYOP campaigns we, we had we had talked about and did on our commando mission was this. Gosh, I can. Like it kills me. I can't remember the name of all the different terrorist organizations. But this. These two competing terrorist organizations moved into the same area.

[Brent]

Nice.

[Casey]

And when we. And we did a. A walk in and took out this dude, we left a note saying like that it was from the other terrorist organization and we don't appreciate the men in our territory.

[Brent]

Not just a hat rat.

[Casey]

That's right. And it. And it kicked off a gang war. And we're like, yeah, you sat back.

[Brent]

For a couple of nights like.

[Casey]

And. And that's something like you can do at a team level. And I don't. I don't even know what the. The real. That's. That's. That's one of those things like don't ask permission because someone will probably tell you like there's a legal reason. Probably highly illegal. Yeah.

[Brent]

In fact, I know it is.

[Casey]

So we. That. So we didn't do that. That's just a story.

[Brent]

Yeah. That's hypothetical.

[Casey]

If. If we were to do that.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Solidarity. Back in for a hundred bucks. I don't think. I don't drink coffee or smoke cigars, but still want to support. Have some beers on me, boys. Question and for pd what do you think about amica? By the way, the insta comment are already flooding in. I don't have a Bible verse, but here's a good quote. Tax this. I think it's flag Benjamin Franklin.

[Casey]

Or is it tax this? D. Okay.

[Payne]

Max. A good dude.

[Casey]

Super.

[Payne]

Super. Yeah. Max.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Super humble, hard worker. He's going to play for a long time and make a boatload of money. So he will. He will make us better 1000%.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Brody Martin says Drew is right. Thank you. We could just stop there on that super chat. But we won't. Commando is the best action movie.

[Casey]

It's up there.

[Tyler]

Runner up and more of anti hero type is From Dusk till Dawn.

[Drew]

That's a great movie.

[Casey]

Wow.

[Brent]

That's a good one.

[Tyler]

God bless Salma Hayek's dancing. Go Bucks. Fire the cannons.

[Casey]

Fire the cannons.

[Payne]

Have you been in the stadium when they shoot those off? Yeah, yeah, every time.

[Brent]

I haven't been yet, but I know I'll be there this season.

[Casey]

Have. Have you been down to. I can't believe I'm gonna forget the name of this. What's that big boat parade.

[Payne]

Gasparilla.

[Casey]

Gaspar. Have you done the Gasparilla thing?

[Payne]

I haven't done the parade side of it. I've done the extracurricular activity side. Yeah.

[Casey]

Time.

[Payne]

That's a good time.

[Casey]

I have not made it down for that. I keep on. And every time, like, I miss it. They're like, oh, gas Bros next week. Dang it.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

I need some heads up. I would like to go to Gasper once.

[Payne]

Yeah. I want to see the parade this year.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Because I think. I think Baker hosted it last year. He was on the main float.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah.

[Payne]

And I would like to see it.

[Casey]

For sure.

[Magnet]

Yeah.

[Casey]

That'd be fun.

[Tyler]

Vanessa, Zen says. Question for Casey. Will you be at NTOA again this year? And also, how do you know? Brag? Bad boy. B team company. Have a great evening, gentlemen.

[Brent]

I don't know if I'll be at NTOA again. When is that?

[Payne]

Are you going?

[Casey]

Oh, NTOA is last week. Last week? August. And it's in D.C. yeah.

[Brent]

Oh, probably not gonna make. No, I've got a lot of stuff going in August. My boy. B team co And I. I won't say his name for. Was it the admin reveal stuff? But anyway, he is.

[Casey]

What, is he injured with the bucks and you can't talk about it? No. No.

[Brent]

Right.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

He is in. He's in Sage right now.

[Casey]

Oh, is he?

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Oh, man.

[Brent]

Yeah. He's gonna crush it. He crushed the bravo course.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Brent]

And went straight to Sage. And he's gonna do great things. Love him.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Papa Penguin back in for a hundred dollar. Papa Penguins supporting us.

[Brent]

Rolling penguins.

[Drew]

My boy.

[Tyler]

Paying all our bills. Keep pontificating. Papa Penguin. Former medical type with more combat deployments than TK Shout out. University of Ramadan. He was banging dude and world's most over educated redneck who snuck into corporate money. Love it.

[Casey]

Nice.

[Brent]

I've got to get.

[Casey]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Tyler]

Thou shalt not bring. Here's here.

[Magnet]

Probably.

[Tyler]

I guess this is one of the Bible verses. Thou shalt not bring thy feet feelings unto the field of battle, lest thou meet thy ancestors early.

[Casey]

For sure.

[Brent]

Well, I like this dude.

[Casey]

Yeah, definitely tuck those feelings on during the mission. Down deep.

[Brent]

Never bring it up again.

[Casey]

There's no reason for feelings on target at Flemma Flinga.

[Tyler]

That's 300 bucks from our boy Wesley Pruitt.

[Casey]

What?

[Tyler]

Wesley Pruitt.

[Casey]

Wesley Pruitt.

[Tyler]

Sorry so late to the party, fellas. Better late than never. Hey, I heard we got a new stealth bomber in development. Completely invisible to all sources. Exteriors completely covered with the Epstein list. Oh, you got me. I'm jonesing for Flying High Again by Ozzy, but am on board with Immigrant Song 300 bucks.

[Drew]

Well, which one is it?

[Casey]

I'm gonna give you from flying high because I love that song as well. Wow.

[Tyler]

300 bucks.

[Brent]

I was totally bought in and was making up like a narrative to. I was like, I got this one, Brent.

[Tyler]

Yeah, and then he hit me.

[Casey]

Cover in the list.

[Drew]

Got him, man.

[Tyler]

GHS Bobcat 2011. Brett, what's your experience? Been working with Scop Drew.

[Brent]

Oh, we did that one.

[Tyler]

Oh, I did it because it skipped on me. Just look at there. Okay, okay, here I am. Tips for buddy. Rick o'. Shea. He's a terrible shooter.

[Casey]

Tips. He's a terrible shooter. You. You want to throw something at that?

[Brent]

I got nothing other than just throwing.

[Casey]

Your buddy's name out there for. For the world to see and let everyone know he's an easy target.

[Drew]

Yeah, do what you did there.

[Tyler]

Bravo Actual says, Brent, regarding the latest UAP craze. As a unit guy, have you had any experiences with these so called crash retrieval programs?

[Casey]

No, I haven't.

[Drew]

And he would not tell you if he had.

[Casey]

Yeah, the units focused on on combat and in real threats, not UFOs get abducted.

[Tyler]

Bravo, Whiskey911. Back in again for 50 bucks. Thank you, buddy. Bring on Alan Mac, CW5 and pilot of Razor Oh3. That was shot down on Tacker Gar. Safety third.

[Casey]

And he's been brought up before. Safety third. That's right.

[Tyler]

That's right. Red 40. All you can eat. Chinese buffet for the boys is on me tonight. 20 bucks. That covers like one person, though. I'm just saying.

[Drew]

Not a Chinese buffet.

[Casey]

That's true. Depends where you go.

[Tyler]

Chinese buffet. Those things are expensive.

[Casey]

We talk about you only need one plate on all you can eat.

[Tyler]

Jets. Any chance of getting Cliff Woolridge on the show? He clobbered a couple Talibs to death with his saw. Marine Corps gave him the Navy Cross.

[Casey]

Wow, I like this guy.

[Tyler]

Wooldridge. Savage.

[Brent]

My boy Cliff.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Cliff Savage. Wooldridge. All right, man. Red 40. Thank you very much. For 20 bucks, I'll take it and go eat. Kenneth. Ken. Oh, Ken's father. CAG daddy. That beard is looking so gray, it makes me wonder who played you in black.

[Casey]

That was a good one. Yeah, that's pretty good. Let's see what you did there.

[Drew]

We are.

[Casey]

Caught up.

[Tyler]

Caught up.

[Payne]

God.

[Drew]

Oh, wait, we have another one.

[Tyler]

Lousy five bucks. Here we go. Hard stuck says thoughts on defense against dogs. Gun is a no go. And I'm worried pepper spray wouldn't work against an aggressive breed like pits.

[Drew]

SWAT teams use CO2. If you got CO2 a Glock works good. No, you don't want to kill them. If it's a pit coming after me, it scares them.

[Casey]

Okay.

[Brent]

I would talk.

[Drew]

It doesn't hurt him at all.

[Brent]

I would talk the puppy out of it.

[Tyler]

And in case it doesn't scare him, you're gonna get bit.

[Brent]

Puppies.

[Drew]

Well, SWAT team's got a really bad rap because of all the search warrants they do. They inherently kill a lot of dogs.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And so they said. Because it's a PR nightmare.

[Casey]

Yeah. Oh, I'm sure.

[Drew]

And so bury them quick. They all spot teams now have, like. They look like fire extinguishers, but it's just CO2. And they hit the dog when the dog goes running, and then they can continue mission.

[Payne]

Oh, wow.

[Drew]

But it takes the whole guy. That's his job.

[Casey]

Dog sprayer. I'm probably gonna get some flak for this. I could probably just shut my mouth. But. But. But also, it's. It's. It's true. There was a point, my first deployment that I had shot more dogs than people. Afghan dogs are big, ferocious, and they come at you. And so we were on. I wouldn't look into, like, ah, I won't kill this dog, but, man, like, it was It. I felt like it was me or him. And they're. They're. You know, it's not unusual for a dog to get put down on. On. On an operation, and it just. It's. It's just a fact of life, and it kind of sucks, but there's really nothing else. What do you want me to do? You just want to let this dog just maul me? You know, like, here I am. I mean, there's an escalation of force to it. Like, yeah. Very mindless kills. Like, I want to shoot a dog. This, like, on this mission. Like, everyone loves a dog, and they. Yeah. And they. They wait to the very. Some of them wait too long, and some of them have Evan bit. I ain't getting bit by a dog, though.

[Drew]

Not an Afghan dog.

[Casey]

They're not current on their shots.

[Magnet]

At least it wasn't a woman and a child. Right.

[Casey]

That's a clip.

[Magnet]

Oh, it wasn't a woman and a child.

[Casey]

Right. Wonder Woman or a child. Yeah.

[Tyler]

All right. Grip your for a hundred bucks says. What's up, gentlemen? Made my first FRCC order. Looking forward. Any chance you have a distributor for the bourbon yet? Would love to have it at my bar. Keep these longer form squad casts going, and I may be able to enjoy one live one of these days. Oh, yeah.

[Casey]

Bro. Which makes you think maybe you're in Florida. And if you are in Florida. We do have a distributor in Florida. Please, Same thing. Send it out the antihero podcast at Gmail and it'll. Yeah, it'll. It'll get to us.

[Tyler]

And if you're not in Florida, send us information on a distributor. If you're in a different state.

[Casey]

Yeah. Even if you're in a different. Different state. There. There happened. If enough people reach out to us, it'll be much easier with several requests from one state to get a distributor.

[Drew]

Because they have to take a chance on the company.

[Casey]

That's right. Yeah. Yep. That distributor has to be like, okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna put hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of your bottles in. In my warehouse. Are they just gonna sit here? How can you move them out of my warehouse? So they can't just take on every craft bourbon and whiskey and beer and just storm in the warehouse just for the fun of it. Like, you have to have a. You have to convince them you're going to move it. Yeah. Or you're going to pay for the storage. At some point you will. They'll. They'll charge you for the storage at some point. And you'll lose a lot of money.

[Tyler]

Bravo. Whiskey says, bring on Tiger Woods. Dad. Earl SF in Vietnam and his history into the teams might lead to why Tiger is half Oriental.

[Payne]

I believe he is no longer with us. Yeah.

[Casey]

I'm pretty sure. Let me.

[Brent]

No, he's gone.

[Casey]

He's gone.

[Tyler]

Brett. He's just trying to put it down easy for him.

[Drew]

He's gone, bro.

[Tyler]

Goon991 says Army SWCs deleted a post because of the TK comments. But they can't stop us. Correctability is a must. Rangers lead the way.

[Casey]

Rangers, get it. Rangers are having this problem.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Martin says your old boys are holding the line.

[Drew]

Which ones are not having a high intake?

[Brent]

The 3rd Ranger Battalion. Those cats, man.

[Casey]

They. They didn't. You know, they're not out there writing lies and books. I do. I wasn't a part of Ranger battalion. Never. Never claimed to be. But I've always respected them. And there it goes back to this. This original topic of ours. The culture of Ranger battalion is awesome.

[Brent]

Yeah. 1,000%. Man.

[Payne]

I'm.

[Brent]

I miss it still to this day.

[Tyler]

Let's see. Here it is. Martin says, have you ever worked with Charlie Ross or Matt Pranka? What was your impression of them as an operator and any stories that you can share.

[Casey]

I'm trying to give me stories of Them both. Both phenomenal guys, phenomenal operators. I mean, it's. It's one of those things, like, if. If I. If I had, like, to pick a group of guys that would be on, like, on my helicopter. And in full disclosure, as always, when. It's. When you're in a highly competitive place, me, Charlie, and Matt, at different times, they have disagreed on things. But I'm telling you, if I'm getting on a helicopter and I want. And I want other guys, Charlie Ross and Matt Franca, I want on that helicopter next to me. They are. They're good dudes.

[Magnet]

Who else would you have on there?

[Casey]

Who else would I have on there? Oh, I can't say their names. They're not all. They're not all in.

[Brent]

I'm sitting right here. I mean, let's be honest. I'm old, man. I don't want to be on your stupid helicopter.

[Casey]

You're doing okay for yourself. What brings you. What brings you to Orlando?

[Brent]

Oh, Mama bear is being Judgy McJudgerson International Pageant. Right.

[Casey]

So I caught.

[Brent]

I called or I text Brent. I was like, hey, aren't you in Orlando? I'm gonna be there for. He's like, you should come do the live thing. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, just come. I was like, okay, sounds good. I was like, all right, I'm gonna go hang out with Brent.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

He's gonna say, hi, bud. But all right.

[Casey]

And she. She was. She was in that world before she was judging McJudgerson. Oh, yeah. That's what gives her the accolades to do that. Oh, what was. What was her accolades? She has.

[Brent]

She's been Miss Kentucky Miseras. Kentucky. Competed in national pageant, like, four different times. She started a business, Shout out to Sashester Social. I can't even say it right, but it's a lot of promotional stuff. They. She does coaching. She does social media stuff, and it's. She's turned her passion into another stream of income. Income. It's. It's pretty awesome.

[Casey]

But she's.

[Brent]

She's smart on all that stuff. Like, super smart. And actually, I'm pretty smart on it, too.

[Casey]

Miss Miss Kentucky Woe is you.

[Brent]

I know. Is it like, out punning your coverage?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

1,000 bravo.

[Tyler]

Whiskey gets in about the Tiger woods, dad. That's what I get for poor research.

[Casey]

Over Delta cigar smoke We've done. That's actually not the first time. I think I said. I think I said that before about some. I can't remember who it was. And they're like, they're gonna be hard to get on, I think. I wish I could remember. You were excited.

[Drew]

You're like, I'm gonna get him on.

[Casey]

And wrote his name down.

[Brent]

I think Bubba Watson's daddy was a was a GB too.

[Drew]

Really?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Magnet]

Tiger woods passed away. His dad passed away in 2006.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah. 20 years ago.

[Brent]

I don't know about Bubba Watson's dating. I don't know what's Bubba Watson doing now? Anybody know?

[Casey]

I don't know, but just he's a name. Just the name Bubba Watson. You know, I want to hang out with him. I don't care what he did. His name's Bubba Watson.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

You know, he's still alive. Bubba Watson lives forever.

[Brent]

Bubba Watson lives.

[Tyler]

Grip your back in this time I'll say his last name. Cokinand. There you go.

[Casey]

Grip here.

[Tyler]

Sorry Drew. Just wanted to make sure you say it once. We'll figure out how to change the name one day. Yes. Bar is in Florida. Will email. Thanks.

[Casey]

Oh man. Thank you. Cool. Thank you. Thank you.

[Tyler]

Solidarity back in. Since we're caught up, Mike Ritland.

[Casey]

Ritland, Yep.

[Tyler]

Did a full podcast on the 160th guy who crashed at Takargar.

[Casey]

Takar Takagar.

[Tyler]

But he did not go into any chaos or bad comms. Mostly how they got the bird spun back up for second attempt.

[Casey]

That would be a cool part of that story for sure.

[Tyler]

Bravo Actual says did the TK beat down by Shrek occur with other unit guys? And how did DK get attached under Shrek?

[Casey]

Yeah, I can tell you that's just another just real misleading thing. He's like, I I was in the hunt for Zarqawi. Like we hunted Zarkawi. Like no you didn't. That the task force you're a part of did. But they were never going to give your your team that mission. You were there to flesh out all the local low level things. So, so the unit can hit the higher level things. That's just, that's just how it, that's just how it works. So and, and they, they would have been in two completely separate living quarters and they'd have seen each other randomly but not a whole lot of of interactions to no other unit guys. It was just his team that game is beat down. And how did he get attached under Shrek? Well, I've started to watch some Shrek podcasts and Shrek knew him while he was still in the Q course. And Shrek was a hand to hand guy. I think this is where I think I can't remember all the details that they even rolled a little bit at local gyms in Fort Bragg. And so he knew Tim was a big black belt BJJ guy. And. And he even said on the Sean Ryan show, he's like, yeah, I wanted him to come straight to the Kriff the Sith. And they were like, why? Like, are there not enough guys? And, like, there's hundreds of good dudes in seventh group. Why would we ever take someone out of the Q course, which is a. An RQ course. We had a couple guys go straight to the sif. It's very rare. Very rare. But he even said in that podcast, he's like, I don't care if he's on a team or does, like, he can just come to the SIF and be a part of the, like, the Combatives program to make the Combatives program better. So he talks. He talks about that and. And why he kind of hand picked him to come to the Sith.

[Tyler]

All right, last question of the night, because we're gonna shut this down because I'm getting tired. Lil Johnny says, tyler, did you read the story and TK book about disarming a guy with a knife when he was an emt? Any cop would know that is a BS story.

[Drew]

Yeah, Brent, actually, when we first started the TK stuff, like, LAT a year.

[Casey]

Ago.

[Drew]

I read portions of that when he was a emt and then he was claiming stuff. But, yeah, that is. That story, to me, sounded like BS because they wouldn't be no E. They would never be in that position ever.

[Casey]

Yeah, it just doesn't. Doesn't check the sniff test.

[Payne]

Can I say one more thing?

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

We gotta circle back a few weeks, and I know we're beating dead horse here, us 7, 20 other guys up a gorilla. You guys were all wrong about that. Give me 30 good dudes, big facts.

[Casey]

Oh, that. That's. That ended up being a very. Like, like, we got. We. We put some mental power to that. And you're like, hold on. Let's really think this out for a second. Now.

[Brent]

I'm gonna watch y' all get after first.

[Payne]

First guy.

[Casey]

Well, you need a guy from the corner to be like, hey, I'm seeing this from the. You know, from. From a distance.

[Drew]

I'm checking guys up front that are like, I'm gonna die. And I'm willing to do.

[Payne]

Yeah. First guy's a goner.

[Casey]

Fist bump. Yeah.

[Drew]

I'll take care of your family.

[Casey]

Yeah. Give me a couple guys with, like, 34 cancer. You're not gonna be able to fight. I don't want it. Well, we. We just got distraction. That's right. We gotta. We need to check. That's right. We need to check some weaknesses first. And, you know.

[Brent]

First wave, dude.

[Casey]

First wave. First wave. You don't send your first drink on the first wave of that mission. No, no, you don't. You don't send tier one guys to the, to the front lines. It's just not their mission. Yeah, you know, it doesn't. Doesn't mean that frontline guy is any less important.

[Brent]

Exactly.

[Casey]

You know, it takes.

[Drew]

That's why God makes grunts. Because they are proud of what they do.

[Casey]

That's a big thing. For sure. Oh, for sure. All right, let me check this up. We have. And as you know, I will screw up the Bluetooth for a second because Tyler probably has it.

[Drew]

When you turn it on, it picks my phone over yours.

[Casey]

We got Flying High by Ozzy and a. And a strong lead. Immigrant Song second. That's. That's what. That's what we got. Let me get on it.

[Brent]

Boom.

[Drew]

Anyone said don't watch the NFL, but go Bucks and a lone star Oil gas says TK only something gay.

[Brent]

Hey, stop spitting your zins in urinals because another human being has to pull them out.

[Drew]

It's not wiping your boogers on urinal walls.

[Brent]

What urinals are you going to.

[Drew]

But I don't know.

[Brent]

I guess all the ones. I'm just like, why are there zins in here?

[Drew]

You've never been in a urinal. Standing there and just looking. Like I'm reading graffiti.

[Brent]

I'm looking at all the scratches in the towels.

[Magnet]

What was the place that we went to?

[Brent]

That's a cool gang sign.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. Concert venue bathroom.

[Magnet]

Yeah, that one right there.

[Casey]

Well, besides you guys being a great team this year, that that I'm certain you will be watch the ratings go through the roof because of this podcast.

[Payne]

I love it.

[Casey]

And when they're like, what's going on this season? You remind them like, you're welcome. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome.

[Brent]

Glad the Lombardi trophy on the day. Let's go.

[Casey]

So when you guys start selling out stadium, what is going on this year? We just to want.

[Tyler]

Want our own box.

[Drew]

That's always.

[Payne]

I will try my best.

[Casey]

I'll tell you. I, I, I got the hookup for the box. Yeah. Yeah. Like it says, it's why I met. What are we talking? Oh, that was before the podcast, wasn't it? Yeah. Got a good friend with with box seats at Bucks games. That's where I met Warren SAP. And then someone asked, was he really big? Oh, yeah. And I was like, oddly no. I mean this, this is subjective. Or, or like it's within like you call the.

[Tyler]

And small.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Said he's tiny.

[Casey]

So I think he said, no, no, he's a large man.

[Brent]

Large, beautiful man.

[Casey]

I did think he'd be bigger if we're being honest. And. And again I said, but I'm sure he's dropped a few pounds since his playing days, as I have. Yeah, yeah. And he was, he was a super nice guy. Super nice guy to me. We got on the subject. I was just trying to be nice. And, and he was like, oh, you're your ex military. I was like, yeah. He goes, well, you guys are, you know, are the real heroes. And like, you guys really put on the line. He's super nice to me. And I was like, well, like you. You know something about that. But yeah, I'm putting it all on the line. And, and you know, and, and competition. Like, yeah, there's. And he was like. And he stopped me like, like right in my tracks. He's like, dude.

[Payne]

As he should have.

[Casey]

Dude, I can have the worst night in the world and I'm going home every night. He's like, don't even compare. He's like, I appreciate it. He's like, don't even compare.

[Payne]

Take all of it home. Absolutely.

[Casey]

He didn't have to do that.

[Payne]

You guys deserve all the credit.

[Casey]

He was. He was a really nice guy.

[Payne]

I'm playing a children's game. For some reason, some people look up to me. And that's why I give it all back to you guys.

[Casey]

That's radio dude, brother. I hope, I hope you get to play that children's game for, for a long time, man.

[Brent]

Lifelong fan, dude.

[Payne]

No kidding.

[Casey]

Chat. You got. You do social media. Yeah.

[Payne]

Instagram, what you got? Mostly pain Durham.

[Drew]

I'll send you this profile.

[Casey]

Okay. Yeah. Anything else?

[Payne]

Wait for my FRCC follow back. Don't worry.

[Casey]

He just followed up me back like six months ago.

[Payne]

Whatever.

[Drew]

He's like, I've been sending this guy videos.

[Tyler]

I should probably follow him.

[Casey]

The. You just focus on football right now. You got any other ventures that, that you're tagged that you're involved in right now? Sucked into.

[Payne]

I want, I want to do Bob's challenge next spring. Oh, I thought he was going to kill me when I turned him down this year, so I owe him one.

[Casey]

What's. What's that Ch. That's Called the G the Gamut Challenge. So he's bugged me about that to do it. Here's what Baba doesn't understand. Like, and again, like, everything's relative. So to Bob, he's like, just if. What does it matter if it's tomorrow? Just.

[Payne]

Just do it.

[Casey]

Just do it. Because Bob can do. He can like Bob can do. He's just always been that guy. Like, I bet Bob could do the 40 miler tomorrow. It hurt. I think Bob could do it. I'm like, Bob, I'm not you and I've never been you. Like, I've like, I can't go out there and just embarrass myself. Like, I gotta train us for that. I gotta train up that. Oh, do you know more like this.

[Payne]

He says he treats it like a selection. Like, like a huge course. It's 36 miles over two days, shooting a bunch of obstacle courses. And then like he'll give you landmarks that you gotta take a picture at this point or you have to collect this.

[Brent]

You gotta sponsor a team. Dude, let's go.

[Casey]

It's individual event, but we can make it. We can make it a team event. But it's like five. It's like, you know, five miles, it gets broken up. I mean, but it's only. It's over two days. You're gonna put 30 miles in your feet. So like somebody's like a five mile run and then like a 10 mile and then, you know, then you run to. And then shoot an event. Yeah, and then like a 10 mile run and then you shoot an event. His O course is. His O course is badass. He's got a really cool.

[Payne]

I ran through it this offseason when I was training for. Because I was supposed to do it this year and I ended up going out of town. But I did it. I was like, I gotta train some more.

[Casey]

Really?

[Payne]

I'm used to short distance sprints. I did a 20 mile ruck and I was like, Bob, I can't walk.

[Brent]

Yeah, it's a different type of movement.

[Casey]

Twice a year.

[Payne]

Yeah, twice a year.

[Casey]

Twice a year in the fall, one in the spring. Well, but Alex about said we'll do. We'll do the, the cooler weather one. But it's Florida so it's like it does. It's still going to be 75 gonna. I'm excited about. That was a good song. Actually. Thankfully no Walls, the. The Aussie song. I think Thankfully Dolly Part 9 to 5 did not come out. Yeah.

[Brent]

And dude, I would have been bopping to that Jam, dude. I'm not gonna sit here and lie. And you know, Bo would have been.

[Payne]

Couple strings of weeks where people were making you sing them or paying for to get you to sing the songs. Yeah, that was a fun couple weeks.

[Casey]

Eddie. The Eddie Murphy. They got it.

[Drew]

They got it.

[Casey]

What was the. The Eastbound and Down guy? Kenny Powers. No, no, no, no, Not. No, I'm sorry. The song. Not the. Oh.

[Brent]

Jerry Reed.

[Casey]

Jerry Reed. I still can't listen to a Jerry Reed song without thinking of. Of Bo. Yeah, he all. He.

[Brent]

He is Jerry Reed without guitar player.

[Casey]

That man will sing be Amos Moses verbatim. And in that song, like, the guy laughs in the background and it's. You do all the laughs. It's perfect. He'll do all of it. Oh, yeah. I love him, dude.

[Brent]

Yeah, you gotta get him on here.

[Casey]

Bo. Bo text me this last week and he goes, oh, man, I feel bad. You would. I'm in Fort Lauderdale right now. My girlfriend lives in Hollywood. I'm in Fort Lauderdale like all the time. And I was like, we'll be there. We'll be there tomorrow. He's like, oh, I'm leaving tomorrow. Yeah, he texted me like 10 o' clock at night. Like, and he's lean. He's literally like wheels up eight hours from now. Like, I appreciate you. Appreciate you asking or saying something, but.

[Brent]

You know how we are, dude.

[Casey]

I know. Oh, shoot.

[Brent]

I forgot I'm here and this person lives here.

[Casey]

I know. I should probably give him credit for doing the harder thing, which is saying, I'm here and forgot to tell you.

[Brent]

What are you doing?

[Casey]

Oh, gosh, I forgot what happened. I forgot my own job. Usually during these I read chats that aren't super chats. Thank you, Magnet. Yeah, T Bone is on it. Jerry Reed. Absolutely. All I think about is Jack Black when I hear this. Let's see here. Nine to five, that's. That's where it's at. Just saying. Well, I get that. Vanessa's in the chat as always, supporting.

[Tyler]

What a way to make a living.

[Casey]

What a Made to make a living.

[Brent]

See what you did there.

[Casey]

The score. Another awesome movie. Got a super chat. Sneaking in late to the party boys. Bert Skyler. What's the deal with Sean Ryan Sr. Did a backtrack. Sr. Did a backtrack for Tim Kennedy, but played the delusion veteran bit for Gavin Newsom and showed him and showered him with gifts. Yet no backtracking for him. Yeah, we did talk about that a little bit. So you'll. You'll have to rewind the tape? Yeah. When this is done, rewind the tape. And unlucky for you, we don't put in timestamps, so you're just gonna have to watch. Watch the whole thing. And you know what?

[Brent]

It's just fun. Entertainment 4.

[Casey]

Totally worth it for the, for this one. Somehow or another. This one is for the boys.

[Brent]

Drop it. It's for the boys.

[Casey]

You can't be in a bad mood.

[Brent]

You know, Is losing his crap right now.

[Casey]

Oh, oh, go.

[Brent]

That's a good time waiting to happen, dude.

[Casey]

It is. Be in a bad mood and listen to the song. I dare you.

[Brent]

Yeah, you can't.

[Casey]

Can't do it, you know. Oh, pain. You wear headphones. Warming up and on and all that?

[Payne]

Sometimes.

[Casey]

Sometimes, yes. What are you listening to?

[Payne]

Oh, that's a good one. Normally relaxing or hype. No, no. Like Kublai Khan going a little bit. Or I'll go like Deftones, something like that.

[Casey]

Old school Deftones. Like White Pony. Yeah, White White Pony album.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Well, all De Tones is good.

[Casey]

I, I, they got a couple newer songs that, that I still like.

[Payne]

System of Down.

[Casey]

Okay. All right. And you, you going to throw this in the list?

[Payne]

I might. If I need to be happy. Maybe at half halftime.

[Drew]

He's gonna be that guy that disappears.

[Casey]

In the locker room.

[Brent]

Now he's gonna do it for everybody. He's like, hey, guys, everybody listen up. Just hit dolly. The game turns around, baby. Let's go.

[Casey]

You, you. Yeah. People ask me this, and again, I hate using, like, cliche comparisons, but there, but there are comparisons to be made. In fact, Tim Tebow asked me this. He was like, like, I gotta know. Like, we're. Were you nervous before missions? And we talked about that for a little bit, and I was like, were you nervous before games? And he was like, dude, on the bus ride to every game, I was so nervous I could throw up.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

He was like, it wasn't until, like, the like app, like, even before, like, the guy's like, you know, say whatever you want about him. In college, the guy was just automatic, right? And he's like, it took the first snap or the first hit before. Finally it was like, like, just, all right, this is where we're at, you know, not thinking about it.

[Payne]

Mine's always the hit.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

And then that's when I kind of take that breath.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Try to get in the flow state. But until that first hit.

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah. What. What is it? What do you think causes the nervousness about you if you're to be like, introspective? About it? Is it the fear of failing? I mean, here's one thing that I, like me and Casey do not have in common with you. Hey, I. I could do something stupid on an objective, and I don't have to answer to 80,000 screaming fans. Yeah. And be put on Sports Center. Like, is it the fear of failure? Is it the fear of just the. The pressure you put on yourself? Yeah, like, do what. What do you think it is?

[Payne]

I. I would say a mixture of both the. The pressure I put on myself and then. I mean, I'm spending all week watching 15 hours of, like, I. I know the guy I'm going against.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

Like the back of my hand. So it's just the pressure and then seeing him and. And then that first hit, it's like, oh, you are human. We're good.

[Casey]

Yeah. All right.

[Payne]

And then the other thing would be like, I. I don't want to. And this might sound cliche, but, like, if I miss a block or if I drop the ball now Baker's looking bad. Baker's getting hit.

[Casey]

Right. The fear of letting down your teammates.

[Payne]

Yeah. 100.

[Casey]

Yeah.

[Payne]

I put a lot of pressure on myself in that regard.

[Casey]

Hard. Yeah, it is. Again, there's so many similarities. And. And. And both. Both are detrimental. There's, like, two things you can't do to your. Whatever your opponent, your enemy, you can't overestimate them. Like, there's no. Like, they're not. Like, no one you go up against is superhuman.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Like, it's. Did. Or did they train? Did they put in the time? Like, everyone is. Everyone is beatable. Everyone's killable. So there's, like, There's. And the other thing we can do is underestimate your enemy. And both. Both are. Both are traps. It's a weird, like, middle ground that you have to find to. For you to perform because your mind is. We say it all the time like this. You're not physical on go so far. There were players in that draft, There were guys that win a selection that were just bigger studs than I am. And people always like, well, then why'd you make it? People are gonna ask you, why'd you make it? Or, why did you make it to where. Where you went or whatever it is. I tell them all, it's mentality. It is mentality. There is a point where physical, like, you can. You can. You can out mentality, like, your. Your physical limits.

[Payne]

Yeah.

[Casey]

Like, there has. There's a. There's always gonna be that. That. That physical part of it, but Man, I preach people all the time. It's mentality. It's mentality. Yeah. And it's hard to. It's hard to. Especially when you have kids and impart that mentality. Because I wasn't. I didn't have the mentality at 8. At 10, I didn't have Drew make fun of me. I don't have the mentality at 15, 18.

[Tyler]

For. To join, not just.

[Casey]

Just to. Just to be aggressive and not.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Casey]

And not care about what everyone thinks anymore.

[Tyler]

Yeah. When you went to Ocala to do, you know, Green Beret, like, for, you know, just part time, the family were looking at each other. We were like, is that really gonna happen?

[Casey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Because you. You didn't have it yet, but the army surely gave it to you. Opened it up.

[Casey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Payne]

I think it's a similarity in those worlds, too, is like, the mental state, being able to make that right decision when mine. Figuratively yours, literally, bullets are flying.

[Casey]

Right.

[Payne]

Like, the guys that can do that, put aside the chaos. This is my job right now. In this moment. Those are the guys that stick around.

[Casey]

How. How long do you think it took you to settle down on this podcast? And you're like, oh, this is. This is the. The biggest stage I may ever be on. Like, the first super chat. Like, what's the correlation?

[Payne]

I think I'm good now.

[Casey]

We should open with it.

[Magnet]

Damn it.

[Casey]

We should have opened with it. All right, that's on us. Thanks again, fellas. Another Thursday night Live.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

In the books. Thank you, guys.

[Casey]

Thank you, fellas.

[Drew]

You're record length, by the way.

[Casey]

Record length. Yeah, that's what she said.

[Magnet]

Mommy.