Squadcast (Live) 07/24/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast: Squadcast (Live) – July 24, 2025

Overview

In the live episode of The Antihero Podcast aired on July 25, 2025, the hosts—Brent, Tyler, Don, and Drew—delved into a multitude of pressing topics, blending personal experiences from military and law enforcement backgrounds with discussions on recent events and cultural phenomena. The episode was marked by a packed virtual audience, emotional reflections on the loss of iconic figures, and intense debates on tactical operations and societal issues.

---

1. Tribute to Legends: Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan

The episode opened with heartfelt discussions about the simultaneous passing of rock legend Ozzy Osbourne and wrestling icon Hulk Hogan, a tragic event that left the hosts and listeners reeling.

• Tyler Reflects on Loss:

  "Ozzy Osbourne dies... Hulk Hogan just died. My heart can only take so much." [02:29]

• Brent Clarifies Miscommunications:

  "Hulk was in a coma? No, for Hulk." [04:09]

The hosts mourned the loss, sharing personal anecdotes about how these figures influenced their lives and careers. They addressed rumors and misinformation surrounding Hulk Hogan's death, emphasizing the importance of accurate information.

---

2. The Legacy of Rock Guitar: Power Chords and Iconic Figures

Transitioning from tributes, the conversation shifted to the technical aspects of rock music, particularly the significance of power chords.

• Tyler on Guitar Legends:

  "Black Sabbath and then Ozzy is individual career had two of the most iconic guitar players." [07:48]

• Brent Highlights Tony Iommi's Innovation:

  "Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath created the original power chord." [08:33]

The hosts discussed how Tony Iommi's adaptation following his industrial accident revolutionized guitar playing, making power chords a staple in rock music. They compared the contributions of guitarists like Zach Wilde and Randy Rhodes to Ozzy's enduring legacy.

---

3. Tactical Operations: Hostage Rescue and Use of Shields

A significant portion of the episode was dedicated to tactical discussions, focusing on hostage rescue operations and the debated use of shields in such missions.

• JB Hero of Canton on Hostage Rescue Techniques:

  "Hulk Hogan's wife denied he was in coma for days before his death." [04:51]

• Tyler on Shield Usage:

  "You cannot do it. You have to accept the risk of hostage rescue missions..." [24:08]

Tyler passionately argued against the use of shields during hostage rescues, emphasizing that they impede accuracy and increase mission risks. The debate included counterpoints from Don, who acknowledged the importance of prioritizing hostages' lives and the mindset required for such operations.

---

4. Personal Military and Law Enforcement Narratives

Brent and Don shared their personal experiences from their time in the military and law enforcement, providing listeners with firsthand insights into the challenges and camaraderie within these professions.

• Brent on Deployments:

  "I was in 375 at the same time as your dad, so..." [112:07]

• Don on Special Forces Training:

  "There’s a difference between a medic and a salter..." [45:10]

These stories highlighted the rigorous training, dangerous missions, and the emotional toll that come with serving in specialized units. The hosts also touched upon the importance of teamwork and the unique bonds formed in high-stress environments.

---

5. Community Engagement and Listener Interactions

Throughout the episode, the hosts engaged with their audience through SuperChats, addressing listener questions, comments, and giveaways.

• Drew Responds to Listener Queries:

  "For everyone in the room. You're clearing a room in Afghanistan and find a fist-sized diamond..." [82:29]

• Brent Announces Giveaway Winner:

  "Cody Lummis, you are the winner." [81:02]

These interactions fostered a sense of community, allowing listeners to feel connected and valued. The hosts also encouraged participation by acknowledging and responding to various SuperChat messages, enhancing the live experience.

---

6. Controversial Topics: Political Discourse and Ethical Debates

The conversation ventured into political territory, discussing the ramifications of fabricated documents during the 2016 U.S. elections and the ethical responsibilities of public officials.

• Tyler Critiques the Obama Administration:

  "When the Obama administration knew for a fact that it was fake, they should have said, hey, this is fake..." [117:55]

• Brent on Political Accountability:

  "They have to police themselves, but hold on..." [124:03]

The hosts debated the impact of misinformation on public trust and the importance of holding administrations accountable for deceptive practices. They stressed the need for transparency and ethical governance to restore faith in democratic institutions.

---

7. The State of Rock Music and Cultural Shifts

Addressing cultural trends, the hosts analyzed the evolution of rock music, its current standing compared to genres like pop and hip-hop, and the influence of modern platforms like Spotify and SoundCloud.

• Tyler on Rock's Popularity:

  "Maybe it's just the rise of pop and hip hop is so much larger than it was." [157:09]

• Brent on Rock Concerts:

  "Rockville... showing you it's not dead." [156:28]

They concluded that while rock may not dominate mainstream charts as it once did, it remains a vital and evolving genre with a dedicated fanbase. The discussion also touched upon the resurgence of rock festivals and their role in keeping the genre alive.

---

8. Technical Difficulties and Authenticity

The latter part of the episode was marred by technical issues, leading to a humorous and candid exchange among the hosts as they grappled with audio glitches.

• Drew on Audio Problems:

  "We have some issues. I don't even know if you can hear me now." [99:25]

• Tyler on Maintaining Authenticity:

  "The technical issues only add to the authenticity of the show." [160:38]

Despite the challenges, the hosts maintained their composure, turning the mishaps into light-hearted moments that resonated with their audience’s own frustrations with technology.

---

Conclusion

The Antihero Podcast's live episode on July 24, 2025, offered a rich tapestry of discussions ranging from personal military experiences and tributes to legendary figures, to in-depth debates on tactical operations and political ethics. The hosts' ability to engage with their audience, coupled with their authentic and unfiltered conversations, made for a compelling and memorable episode. Despite technical hiccups, the episode underscored the podcast's commitment to delivering raw and truthful content, embodying its motto: "Part Delta Force. Part Street Cop. All Truth."

---

Notable Quotes

• Brent on Building Community:

  "Me and Brent started this 13 months ago... We've grown a community together." [17:48]

• Don on Tactical Priorities:

  "A shield should be in the house during hostage rescue. That's more in contingency planning." [26:12]

• Tyler on Leadership and Responsibility:

  "If you're the right guy for the job and you're capable of doing it, you have a duty." [80:37]

• Brent on Special Operations Diversity:

  "The racial makeup of the unit, I assume, is predominantly white." [61:49]

• Tyler on Media Influence:

  "Social media is actually changing the youth's mindset." [124:36]

---

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of The Antihero Podcast's live episode, providing an insightful overview for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Brent]

Welcome back to another Thursday night squad cast. Thursday night is for the boys. We got a hell of a show. We got a packed house. We lost two icons this week, and there's some other Tim Kennedy stuff going on. Stick around, hang out. It's gonna be a great night.

[Tyler]

Let's. Sam.

[Brent]

Hey. Welcome back. We switched up. We did switch up the thumbnail this week. Yeah, Today.

[Tyler]

Just today.

[Brent]

Just today we switched up the thumbnail.

[Tyler]

What a crazy week. I've been crying all day. I just been listening to Mama, I'm coming Home on repeat and just crying like a baby, like, I don't know. I don't want to talk about it.

[Don]

But I'm sure we will.

[Tyler]

We might talk about it. I guess. I guess I shouldn't have showed up here if we don't want to talk about it.

[Brent]

We just got done wrapping up a very important episode, but I don't think we've told anybody what it's about. So you guys can just guess or wait until Monday or join our patreon. Our patreon knows.

[Tyler]

What a wild, wild week. Ozzy Osbourne dies. The guy just did his last concert. Super glad he got that concert out of. Out of the way. Yeah. In a weird way like that. That is cool that he got to do that right before he died. And I thought that would be that. I mean, that's a crazy enough week, right? Like, Ozzy Osbourne, just an absolute rock legend, guys. And on the way here, the podcast studio today, I get a text from Devin. It's like, Hulk Hogan just died. I'm like, no, no, Hulk can't die. In the same week Ozzy dies. My heart can only take so much. And I had to. I was like, yeah, he did. That's crazy to me.

[Brent]

Yeah. I mean. And Hulk Hogan kind of came out of left field, though.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brent]

I never would have guessed he had health problems. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Ozzy wasn't as crazy. I think it has to do with. With the couch, actually, because as soon as he moved the. You don't have your headphones on, but it's good now. Yeah. The Aussie wasn't that big of a surprise. Like, it really, really wasn't. Like, still, it felt like a little too soon, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was kind of on borrowed time as it was. But for Hulk out of left field.

[Don]

Well, it wasn't on a radar.

[Tyler]

It wasn't on the radar. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't on the one on the radar.

[Brent]

He's had health problems or he's had heart problems.

[Tyler]

He's had back problems. He's had, like, a couple, like, different problems.

[Brent]

Sober when he was 60.

[Tyler]

Nerd.

[Brent]

I mean, like.

[Don]

I mean, when you make a living out of, you know, getting the beat.

[Tyler]

Out of you, I guess fake cardiac arrest was. Was the cause of death.

[Brent]

I didn't hear Ozzy.

[Tyler]

Oh, he was in a coma? No, for Hulk.

[Brent]

He was in a coma? Yeah, he was in a coma.

[Tyler]

For how long?

[Drew]

Who? Last two weeks?

[Tyler]

Yeah, for the last two weeks.

[Drew]

They said it was heart failure.

[Brent]

We should be able to know about his medicine.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Don]

That's what they were trying to destroy.

[Tyler]

It was cardiac arrest, not coma. Some. Oh, gosh damn it.

[Brent]

Damn it. We need to verif.

[Don]

Somebody research that I know not gonna.

[Brent]

Mag is usually the guy that researches it.

[Tyler]

You can't put out false information. You're a researcher. I'm researching everything now.

[Drew]

Well, if they pull the plug on.

[Brent]

You'Ll have some super chats.

[Drew]

All right, well, let's see. We got JC Hero of Canton says War Pigs is the goated kit up song, five bucks.

[Tyler]

All right, I got this right off the bat. I'd like to start out with the first article. Hulk Hogan's wife denied he was in coma for days before his death. So he was in coma.

[Drew]

She might deny it.

[Tyler]

All right, all right. War Pigs.

[Brent]

Got it.

[Drew]

Zulu whiskey is in says TK Iranian name is Fagette. We got JC Hero of canon back in. Real American goated kid up song five bucks.

[Tyler]

Oh, now we're in a race. Oh, man, here's the thing. I feel like Hulk Hogan's gonna. Gonna run away with it because he really only has one song. Right? Like the all. Yeah, all the. The 30 different really good Aussie songs are gonna split the. The money.

[Brent]

Yeah. It's obviously going to be Ozzy or Hulk Hogan or both.

[Tyler]

Real American.

[Brent]

We had a couple 50. We had three 50 super chats. We didn't lose them, did we?

[Drew]

At point shouldn't. I've got them all up here.

[Brent]

Thing saves them. Okay.

[Drew]

Yep. All right. See, at point man podcast. 20 bucks listening to the live over Bluetooth at a national guard recruiting event at a county fair up in Massachusetts tonight. Thursday night is for the boys. War pigs for the closing.

[Tyler]

Oh, there we go. There we go. Yeah, it's going to be an active one tonight for that.

[Drew]

Now the question is, Black Sabbath, War pigs or Aussie solo? War pigs.

[Brent]

Black Sabbath.

[Tyler]

War pigs. Yeah.

[Don]

Got to go.

[Tyler]

Black Sabbath. Yeah. Yeah, Good question.

[Brent]

The Aussie one is good, too, but I can't remember who if that one was with Zach Wilde. What guitar player that is.

[Drew]

Any pinch harmonics, it's going to be Zach.

[Tyler]

Pinch harmonics. Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

Let's see, we got bravo, whiskey911 says Brent Tucker looks like an operator version of Zach Wild.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's. And we both play guitar. Just wide. Wildly different levels. Wildly different levels. Gosh.

[Drew]

Jim says TK was holding Ozzy's hand when he passed away. That's why he died. That's what TK was saying. It's Tim's fault.

[Brent]

It's awesome.

[Drew]

Let's see. SF tactician says. Riddle me this. If you say anything about non existent UAP UFOs, the government will self delete UFO 6 times in the back. But if you do some TK stuff, they invite you to the White House apparently.

[Tyler]

Man. I'm going to pose a question real quick and I've been thinking about this for like. We're rock nerds and music nerds. This isn't. This is an honest question. Get, get like take, take, take. Take your fanness of, of Ozzy out of it. Okay. And not that he doesn't have a reason to be a fan of just Ozzy, but Black Sabbath and then Ozzy is individual career had two of the most iconic guitar players behind them between Zach Wilde and Tony Iommi. I would say Randy Rhodes and Randy and Randy Rhodes.

[Drew]

Jakey Lee also.

[Tyler]

So, so you take those, you take those amazing guitars that came out with the most amazing chord progressions, choruses, licks and, and, and riffs and solos. Is Ozzy. Does. Does Ozzy maintain who Ozzy is without those guys? Could anyone. There's a lot of talented guitar players.

[Brent]

No, but look at those albums. They're not nearly as good. Now granted, Zach Wilde only wrote, if I remember correctly, did not write anything after no More Tears. He was brought in to do the recording for down to Earth. But he did not write any of the music. But just to get that Aussie sound, he wrote recorded for it. But Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath created the original power cord. You guys know that?

[Tyler]

No, I did not know that.

[Brent]

Do you know why?

[Tyler]

No. Because he doesn't have long fingers. I don't know.

[Brent]

Well, missing a finger. And so he created the power cord for his own fingers.

[Tyler]

Oh really?

[Drew]

He had his. The tips of three of his fingers chopped off in an industrial accident on his last day on the job. And then he fabricated these fabric looking thimbles basically that went on his. Okay, his fingers, his nubs gave him. That distinct sound. And because of his accident. Yeah, just. Just a two note chord became his staple. And now like. Yeah, the power chord is.

[Tyler]

Is the staple. Yeah.

[Drew]

God bless Tony Iommi and the power chord.

[Tyler]

Right? You take power. I mean, the rest of rock, from punk to grunge, lived off power chords. It was. It was a whole genre. What's crazy?

[Drew]

All right, we got Jacob Schneider says, Tyler, I'm enjoying a two week unpaid suspension for telling a dispatcher I'm not listening to someone too fat to fit into the front of an ambulance.

[Brent]

Hey, one time we got on our.

[Tyler]

It sounds worth it.

[Brent]

One time we. We got on our attack channel and we were talking. Our TAC channel is meant to talk from. For us. Right? From me to you. Okay. It's not meant to call county or central. It's just meant for me. But sometimes the dispatchers listen to it.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

For officer safety in case I'm actually on that channel.

[Tyler]

Okay. All right.

[Brent]

And one time my buddy goes, dude, our dispatcher man, who pissed in her Cheerios. And she goes, watch commander, track and tack, which is you're mouth.

[Tyler]

Oh, gosh, like.

[Don]

Like that time you accidentally grabbed the satcom.

[Tyler]

It happens. It happens. Happens more than I'd like to admit. And as the combo guy on the team is even more embarrassing when you. When you do the wrong thing because you. You should. You should know.

[Don]

Supposed to know.

[Tyler]

You're supposed to know. Yeah. Supposed to know better.

[Drew]

Jay Burke says. What's up, boys? Good to see everybody smiling, enjoying the cigars. Hope all is well. Saw David Hookstead had a really solid update on the Tim Kennedy bs. You guys should be proud of policing your own.

[Tyler]

Let's. Let's cover that just. Just for a second. So I know David covered it, but as always, when you're the first to cover someone. We talked about this before. It's bittersweet, right? Because you like, when you're first to cover it, it's that it's kind of like breaking news, but you have the least amount of information like at the time. And, and so. And that's by no means any sort of like, you know, it like hit. I'm. I'm talking towards like David Hook's dad. Yeah, that's just. That's just the nature. That's just nature of it. And so he. He was quick to. To report on like the civilian gold medal that. The Congressional gold Medal that. That Nader was trying to put forward for Tim Kennedy. Sarah Verardo, Dennis Price, Chad Robichaux. A lot of people on the evacuation of Afghanistan. He put this forward two years ago, and it got denied. Well, it's easy to understand why it got denied two years ago is because the Biden administration wasn't going to award civilians for stepping in and helping out when the military and State Department were. Were too inept to do their job. So it went nowhere. So no good deed goes unpunished. So that was the best of this guy, to the best of his knowledge, decides like, hey, what's two years later, different administration. No one pushed him to do it. He was like, I'm gonna resubmit this, and maybe we can get these. These people an award they deserved. Well, apparently wasn't tracking the Tim Kennedy drama. And it. You know, the memes came out and people, like, call him, tell him he got personal phone calls from people, and. And he's like, okay, my bad. I'll. That. I'll retract that. So everyone that was really up in arms, rightfully so. About the gold medal. Thing is your voices were heard, and it's one of those cliche things, like you would think, like, calling your congressman is like, no one's going to listen. Guess what? Like, they. He heard. Like, he listened. And. And we fixed that. All right?

[Drew]

We got. Yo, Ben. If you call them to release the Epstein files, you think they'll listen?

[Tyler]

It's worth a try.

[Drew]

All right. Yo, Ben. Bamboozled says, hey, fellas. Heard the Hulk got baptized less than a year ago. Ozzy apparently has been a Christian for years. Crazy train outro, 20 bucks.

[Tyler]

Yep. That's what I'm talking about. All his hits are going to disperse.

[Drew]

Wiley Coyote, aka is it Wesley, I believe is. Is 500 bucks tonight. Whoa, 500 bucks. He's our big donor. Evening, fellas. Let us pause for a moment to reflect on the passing of Ozzy Osbourne. I don't know whether he ended up in heaven or hell, but one thing's for sure, he is finally free of his freaking bitch of a wife, Sharon. In honor of his journey over the mountain, my vote for outro goes to the song of the same name. Oh, man. Runner up, Mama, I'm Coming Home.

[Brent]

Over the Mountain's a great song.

[Drew]

Over the. Solo in. That is.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

500 bucks for over the Mountain, man.

[Brent]

Yeah, it's gonna be hard to beat.

[Don]

Yeah, it's gonna be hard.

[Tyler]

Hey. Yeah. Sharon was. Was obviously a force to be reckoned with. It's. It's one of the. It's one of the reasons Zach Wilde had had an issue touring, because he couldn't Deal with. With Sharon. Sharon Osborne. They apparently notoriously not like each other.

[Drew]

No, no. They. They loved each other. It was Randy and Jakey who had the issues with Sharon. Like, Zach speaks very highly, but Sharon.

[Brent]

Had an affair with Randy Rhodes. You know that.

[Tyler]

No.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

No way.

[Tyler]

Oh, I gotta look. Really?

[Brent]

Sharon Osborne affair with Randy Rose. I'm schooling y' all on top knowledge, right?

[Tyler]

So I'm.

[Don]

I'm something Sam Houston know.

[Drew]

I'll tell you what, Sharon. Randy. Randy definitely didn't Sharon.

[Tyler]

Oh, gosh.

[Drew]

You got to give it to Sharon, though. Not about the whole Randy Rose thing, but, like, she made Ozzy when. When Ozzy, you know, was in the gutter. She's the only one.

[Brent]

She drove him to the solo stuff. Yeah.

[Drew]

She made him who he. Who he is.

[Brent]

Well. And she was very outspoken and trying to get ousted. Pro. They're not just pro Palestine band. They're pro. A Moss band. And she was like, you. You can't be pro terrorist here. Like, we're. We're all for left bands and right bands. Sure. But you cannot be openly pro.

[Drew]

Who was it? Do you remember? Was it for the.

[Brent]

Yeah, because Tom Morello was an advocate of them for being social justice warriors or whatever. And David Draymond from a Stir is like, absolutely not. He's like. Well, he's Jewish.

[Drew]

Tom Morello is a communist. Yeah.

[Brent]

I mean, but big time Dave, you.

[Tyler]

Know, Dave Draymond, the whole thing. Yeah. Say what you want about Sharon, but. Yeah, I've just been watching a bunch of clips like, Sharon was on the View. No real surprise there. Gross. But, you know, Ozzy Osbourne showed up on stage, like, flew in and surprised her to give her flowers on stage while she was at the View. I mean, she. She may have been a lot to deal with. A man. Did he love her? Like, a lot of credit? Yeah, yeah, he. He always gives her a lot of. Of credit. And. And it's like, she should have left me a long time ago and didn't. And she's an amazing woman. I think it's really cool that that type of rock Persona ended up with like a lifelong love, you know, that. That. That they had.

[Drew]

Let's see, the chats are asking who's the guest tonight?

[Tyler]

What? Oh, this is our first time guest.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

First time.

[Don]

Green Line T. You must be new.

[Tyler]

You are a.k.a. i did wake up and choose violence. You did a.k.a. don the Dragon.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Tyler]

I've been posting all day. A.k.a. the. The nod Father. Yeah. Green Beret extraordinaire, I would say. Extraordinaire Mr. Mustard the first Green Beret.

[Don]

You ever met, right? Something like that.

[Tyler]

You won the first for sure. Yeah, I'll take that. Mr. Mustard saying. You can call him by his proper name, Mr. Mustard saying.

[Don]

Or Don.

[Brent]

Out of context. Mr. Mustard stain. Sounds weird.

[Tyler]

It does, yeah. Yeah. If you don't know what a Mustard saying on jump wings are. Yeah, it is a little. It was a little weird.

[Drew]

Mr. Mustard Stain in the parlor with the, you know.

[Don]

Yeah. Candlestick with the jump wings.

[Drew]

All right. Chris Smith says AI version of Real American by Savage.

[Tyler]

Oh, gosh.

[Brent]

Is that if that.

[Tyler]

Is that a thing? It's got. It's got to be. I'm a fine. I'm a. I'm a fine.

[Brent]

They're saying make one. If they're.

[Tyler]

Oh, they say make one or. Yeah.

[Drew]

Brandon Bailey says war pigs for $20. Also was going through it the last couple months, and you guys helped me.

[Brent]

Get through it good.

[Tyler]

Thank you, brother.

[Brent]

Yeah, man. I mean, you guys reaching out and telling us that we're just a couple shit kickers with a. With a podcast. So it means a lot to us that, you know, the hanging out with the boys. Me and Brent started this 13 months ago. We started the lives. And I remember I went and looked at the analytics and it was me and Brent and 20 people in the chats. And now, you know, we've. We've grown a community together with all of us, and it's good to hear stuff like that.

[Drew]

Let's see. San Andreas says. Love the show, guys. Bunt. You say that to never pee sitting. But what if you are in a. Hmm. W.V. humvee? I guess one say in a non permissive environment or a go. Or a pilot who cannot stand a Gatorade bottle will save your life. If you hold it in. You're gearing to bust a taint.

[Tyler]

Yes. Those are dire situations. We're talking about different things, guys. We're talking about you have no option but. But to do that. But when you have an option in your home to sit or stand and you choose to sit and you don't have.

[Brent]

I'm worried about your brother.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And you don't have recent knee surgery. I don't know. It's got. I got it.

[Brent]

I got.

[Tyler]

I got questions.

[Drew]

Really drunk.

[Brent]

Not an excuse.

[Tyler]

Not excuse.

[Brent]

Pee on the toilet.

[Tyler]

You want one? One eye it. Bend your knees just a little bit.

[Brent]

Closer to like lean down and squat forward.

[Don]

I mean, if you're in.

[Tyler]

I don't know.

[Don]

There's always something, you know, that's Right.

[Tyler]

You know the rules. That's right. You. You lean forward, you stabilize, you get.

[Don]

Right over shower curtain.

[Drew]

You know the rule, right? If you sit down to pee, you got to sit there long enough to where it turns into a.

[Brent]

And then. Yeah, you're going to be there. You might be there a minute, right?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Got there. Got. Got there on a technicality. Fully committed.

[Brent]

Do the right thing, no matter who's watching.

[Tyler]

That's right. Yeah.

[Drew]

If you're too drunk to pee standing up, you. You. You need to stop drinking. All right. You did it. Nonsense.

[Don]

Or just hold it till you're sober.

[Drew]

Eric.

[Brent]

VQ.

[Drew]

I don't know what a sec for $129 is. Sec.

[Tyler]

Oh. What is a sec?

[Drew]

Some type of exchange there from Sweden. And screening for the Swedish Ranger Regiment in two weeks. Brent's morals and stories are echoing still.

[Tyler]

Thank you.

[Don]

Must be Swedish money.

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Drew]

Do they lead the way?

[Tyler]

Yes. Oh, yeah, man.

[Don]

Probably my wife.

[Drew]

My wife drives a Volvo, so. Thank you for the good car, Swede.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. At beyond the Barrel podcast. There he is.

[Tyler]

Real American.

[Drew]

20 bucks for real American.

[Tyler]

All right. It's climbing.

[Brent]

Hey, there's requests to turn up my audio, Drew. I don't know.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I feel like it's a little low.

[Brent]

I swear to God, you sabotaging me every episode.

[Drew]

No, you're. You're.

[Brent]

You're.

[Drew]

You're pinged. And you don't always spike into the mic, but sometimes you do, sometimes you don't, so you're hard to gauge.

[Brent]

I'm moving.

[Don]

You think you'd know how to do this by now.

[Drew]

But that's.

[Brent]

That's. That was my point. We have no idea what we're doing.

[Drew]

And now getting more noise. You really did choose violence today, Don. Talking to Tyler.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Brent]

Grumpy old man. Leave alone.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Let me know if this colostomy bag starts stinking.

[Tyler]

Change out.

[Drew]

Part of my duties, man. I just don't know where that noise is coming from, man.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

It's so hard.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Is it really bad? From time to time.

[Tyler]

Is it not in your headsets? Can you not hear it?

[Brent]

Everything.

[Drew]

Like, I think it's. Sometimes it's mine. And I'll, like, turn my head.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

It'll stay there and then stop. So I don't know if it's me.

[Tyler]

We'll figure it out.

[Drew]

There's a lot of people in here. I have no idea if it's cell phones. And I. I just don't know what. What it is. Someone says one mic, it's not one mic. It is. It's not. It's. It's in the system. I don't know what it is. I've turned each mic down separately to try to pinpoint it. All right, moving on. It says new Infantry LT here. Congratulations, I guess.

[Brent]

Is that.

[Drew]

I don't know if I. New lieutenant. What.

[Tyler]

What's lt Lieutenant. Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Congratulations. Waiting on the TK Book buyback needs to be more for signed copy.

[Tyler]

For sure.

[Drew]

I believe that shite. Thanks for what y' all do.

[Tyler]

Absolutely. And thanks for researching. Researching into that and having enough common sense to believe the truth when it's. When it's finally shown. There's a lot of people that read the book and then heard the truth. It was like now. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Don]

So many deniers.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So many deniers. So good on you. You got a good head on your shoulders.

[Drew]

All right, Jackie says let's effing go. With all the tests in the room, why is Tyler's voice so squeaky? Violence.

[Don]

Violence.

[Tyler]

Just violence again. Way to go, Don. Look at the domino effect you started.

[Don]

Now it's my fault.

[Tyler]

Okay, Take a good look at the bad guy.

[Drew]

You're a social media influencer.

[Don]

Yeah, Ye. Yeah, I'm influencing social media.

[Drew]

All right, I'm turning off the mics in the back. I'm sorry, guys.

[Tyler]

This.

[Brent]

I mean, will that work? Oh, it works.

[Drew]

I have. No, It's. It's lower.

[Don]

Still hearing something?

[Tyler]

No, now it's gone. Now it's gone.

[Don]

It was magnet.

[Brent]

Well, well, we got an idea. We got our back.

[Drew]

No, I just. I turned up one of them. All right, both mics in the back are down because I don't.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Drew]

So far. It's all right. So you guys in the couch, you guys just use your sign language at that camera over there. If you got to say anything. Okay.

[Brent]

Or if you need to say something, just let us know. We'll turn it up. Listen to the buzzing while you say something. Turn it back down.

[Drew]

All right, let's see. 30. 30 the show. Hey, boys. My vote for outro song is War Pigs by Black Sabbath. Hey, Tyler. I was 4th BCT 82nd from 08 through 12.

[Brent]

Oh, I was there. Oh, we probably went to airborne school together. I was there. 08 to 2012.

[Tyler]

Yeah, check that out.

[Brent]

Third. Third BCT there.

[Drew]

Bravo. Whiskey says Mama, I'm coming home. 50 bucks.

[Tyler]

Man.

[Drew]

We're like a. We're like a podcast jukebox here for these guys. JB67 says, Brent, thoughts on using shields And a hostage rescue for law enforcement.

[Tyler]

Nope, can't do it. Yeah. And I've heard, I have, I've listened with, with an open mind and I've seen teams do it. I'm not that like close minded to, especially to progress. And I really have taken an open mind approach and looked at it. And you cannot do it. You cannot do it. You have to accept the risk of hostage rescue missions, which is you put the hostage life over your own. A shield will slow you down. One, two. There is no way to be as accurate with a shield and a pistol. Sure as hell knows way to be accurate with a shield and a rifle. And yes, I've seen different shields that allow you to do that. It's not, you're not as accurate. So I don't care if you take a little bit of accuracy down and increase your risk a lot. Anything, anything that decreases mission success, which is the rescuing of the hostage cannot be entertained. Absolutely. No, no, no shields. This is, this is a little bit my forte. So I gotta talk about a little bit. Here's a caveat to that. Shields cannot lead on a hostage rescue. But I say this, A shield should be in the house during hostage rescue. And that's, that's more in contingency planning. If a bad guy wants to keep someone out of a room by spraying rounds through a door, that prohibits the assault force from getting in that door. And that's, that's a realistic thing. The only way you're going to make entry into that room is bring the shield up to the front, force your way in. That's the only way you're getting in as a shield, but not, not as a primary course of action. It has to be in contingency planning and should be at the back of the train or somewhere that can get to quickly. There's, there's a shortest version of S.H.I.E.L.D. hostage Rescue Class. I give.

[Don]

Yeah, I agree. It has to do with the priority of life.

[Tyler]

Priority life.

[Don]

I mean, a priority is a hostage. So like you said, you have to be willing to put yourself at risk. And, and if your first thought is to bring a shield.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Don]

Your mindset is already.

[Tyler]

It's already off.

[Don]

Your mind is already shifted away from priority.

[Tyler]

Yep, absolutely.

[Drew]

Chase Lee. 20 bucks says, Drew, you should sing the chorus to Carry On My Wayward Son by Kansas. It seems to fit for both.

[Tyler]

That's it.

[Drew]

Carry on my way. No, I'm not gonna do it. All right. Salvador Balona. 50 bucks says. Oh, here we go.

[Tyler]

Just a songbird.

[Drew]

Brenton Hoover, Boston accent. When are you boys coming to Massachusetts? Don, which deployment did you enjoy while on 320? SFG.

[Don]

Oh, man.

[Drew]

Closeout song. Black Sabbath. War Pigs.

[Tyler]

War Pigs.

[Don]

Favorite deployment, man.

[Drew]

I don't know.

[Don]

I'd say probably just because one of the coolest things you could ever do is be a Special Forces team sergeant in combat. Yeah, I would say Iraq.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that. Iraq was a good one.

[Don]

Since you were there.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that, that surge Iraq was a fun one.

[Don]

That was. That was cool. I mean, obviously it.

[Brent]

There was.

[Don]

There was heartaches and stuff like that, but just the, the overall, you know, just the. Yeah, I'd say that just, you know, by nature of, you know, what I got to do and who the guys I got to be with.

[Tyler]

I won't.

[Don]

Yeah, as a matter of fact, I.

[Tyler]

Won'T talk about it too long. But real quick. There are things that happen at a time that you didn't realize how special they were. And my first mission when I showed up was when we were in Saddam's palace and we were doing a company sized hit. Yeah, I've never. And in all my deployments and all my friends deployments, I'm sure they've happened. Someone else has done it. Do you know how rare it is to do a company wide hit as a SF company? Five ODAs? Were we six at the time?

[Don]

I think we only had five. I don't know.

[Tyler]

We made five ODAs on the same mission. They were different target sets, but executing five simultaneous mission sets simultaneously. One SF company, it's. It's so rare. And that was my first mission.

[Don]

And I got. You just showed up.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I just showed up. I met you guys at the palace.

[Don]

But that was cool.

[Tyler]

That was super cool. As a new guy. I just left Afghanistan and that was my first mission in Iraq.

[Don]

Yeah, that was. That was a big.

[Tyler]

I mean, that was a big deal. That was like.

[Don]

What else was cool about that was. I don't remember how long we'd already been in country at that point in time, but that was the first time some of us had seen each other since we left the US too.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

So it's like, bro, what you been up to, man? Been hearing you on the radio.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And Salvador will be in Massachusetts as soon as Point man podcast who was in the super chats earlier. He's got to find us a place, but once he does, we'll be in Massachusetts.

[Drew]

PRC says Randy Rhodes died up the road from you in Leesburg.

[Tyler]

And Leesburg. Did he really?

[Drew]

Back in 1982, roads up the road, Matt Burns. Shout out to my buddy Levin. Bravo with the 173rd. Who just rotated out to Croatia. He immigrated here legally from Italy and is now serving the country because he loves it.

[Tyler]

Nice.

[Brent]

And then he went back to Italy with the 173rd.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

They're like, oh, yeah, you're Italian. We'll send you to Italy.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Average Joe says favorite Aussie moment, Black sabbath, California Jam, 1974. Four year old. Killing yourself to. To live. To live. Killing yourself to live. Sorry. Favorite Hulk moment. NWO's WWE debut at no Way out in 2002.

[Brent]

Man.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Brent]

I was gonna. I was actually gonna send drew the YouTube when a Hollywood Hulk Hogan turned bad guy.

[Tyler]

So, like. Like most normal Americans, I. I grew out of wrestling by age 8 or 9. But. But those. But that being said, let me tell you, as it was probably later than that. 12, something like that. Like, as a kid, I didn't miss a wrestling event or a Monday night or what. Whatever. Whatever. I can't remember when it was then, but I know I watched it. I watched it religiously. I followed the storylines like it was. It was huge as a kid. It was so huge as a kid. It was just a couple years ago that I went down this very long rabbit hole of, like, where were all my wrestling? What happened to all my wrestling idols? You know, Heart Attack.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Andre the Giant, you know, the Hacksaw. Jim Duggan.

[Don]

Rowdy. Rowdy Pipe.

[Tyler]

Rowdy. Rowdy Piper. Mr. Perfect. Like that whole late 80s, early 90s macho man, ultimate Warrior. I can still. I remember all the. The Road Warriors. I mean, I remember all those guys. All those guys. I still remember. And I have, like, the worst memory. And I can still remember almost every wrestler in the 80s and 90s, and they all died. And I was like, well, that's all right. Like, Hulk still standing strong.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And he finally. Ah, man. Who's. Who's the last one standing in that era? Ric Flair. Ric Flair's alive. He was later. He wasn't during that same time.

[Brent]

About ten years after.

[Tyler]

Ric Flair lives in Tampa.

[Brent]

I thought he lived in Charlotte.

[Tyler]

He lives in Tampa. We might have multiple houses, but I know. And he goes to amso, like, all the time in. In Tampa.

[Drew]

TG says it's Hop on, Des. Okay. Have you guys looked into doing a history episode about Colonel David Hackworth?

[Brent]

No. Short answer.

[Drew]

Give us a reason to do so. Yo, Ben Bamboozled.

[Tyler]

I'll do one on David Hasselhoff.

[Drew]

Y' all do y' all do amazing Work. I'm DJ Rink on Patreon. I was in the Persian Gulf on August 26, 2021. The Biden administration failed US sailors too. I appreciate all you do, Drew.

[Tyler]

They. They failed you. And they failed the rest of the country for four years.

[Drew]

Thanks, guys. Joe.

[Tyler]

They tried to fail us again for four more years with their. With their vp. Thank God, man.

[Drew]

Joe Saunders. Yippee ki. My vote for the closing song is Ozzy Bark at Moon.

[Tyler]

Another good one.

[Drew]

10 bucks. If it's too emotional, we could do a song along with Tyler. I Feel Love by Donna Summer. This is a joke request. Put the money in the beer.

[Brent]

Yeah, you gotta come up with 490 more dollars.

[Tyler]

But that being said, War Pigs is. It's. It's early. War Pigs is scratching. Scratching back in.

[Brent]

Yeah, if me and Brent sang that, I would sing Ozzy's part. He would sing le part.

[Drew]

The creature 96 says Brandt, did you ever come across Casey Ry during your time in service? And reference the note. Oh, is that Steven Segaldi?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And reference the notepad that never gets a second look. Is it just full of men's members drawings? Tke who?

[Tyler]

No, but we did. We did. We did have a really funny guy at the unit that would. That would draw dick drawings. And he had like dick helicopters and. And dick assaulters. It was made by all different dicks.

[Brent]

Different types of dicks.

[Tyler]

Dick that I know of. That I know of. And man that. You get a hold of his notepad, you better be mentally prepared for what you're about to see. Oh, he was. He was a good artist too.

[Drew]

Joey Holt says, who's the team? You. Jelly roll on the couch.

[Brent]

Go to the couch cam. Go to the couch.

[Tyler]

T. Boo. Jelly roll.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Hey, yeah, guys got a family. Watch out.

[Drew]

Raven two three says crazy train by Ozzy for tonight's 20 bucks.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

Chris Durko. Thank you for the love. Jacob Schneider says, Bert, you were wrong on the into the Breach podcast.

[Tyler]

Damn, I hate being wrong.

[Drew]

The Garand is five round clip.

[Tyler]

All right, I'm not. I'm not overly upset about that. I'm not overly wrong about that, but I. But. But not overly upset about that. But. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.

[Don]

Big deal.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I didn't carry one, so be really messed up.

[Don]

Yeah, I know. Those came after my time.

[Tyler]

Yeah. All right, now I gotta go back to the comment section and see all the 2A nerds. The whole comment section. This idiot was in the Delta Force. He doesn't know.

[Drew]

He doesn't know how many rounds been in a grand?

[Tyler]

Damn it. Actually, well, guess what? I didn't load my grand clips all the way. I always loaded into five, so I was right.

[Don]

So you can carry 50 of them.

[Tyler]

Hey, dude.

[Drew]

Yeah, buddy.

[Brent]

We got to hit our sponsors first. First row of sponsors. Cloud defensive. The best in handheld and weapons mounted illumination. You know I made that up, right? No, I made up their. I don't know if they use it, but I use it.

[Tyler]

Good. Perfect.

[Brent]

But go to clouddefensive.com, use promo code ANTIHERO15 and get the best. Best in. Like I said, handheld and weapon mounted illumination and tasty gains. Did you guys know this about creatine? Increase power in your workouts, hydrate your muscles and leave them looking more full. Faster recovery. There's been multiple notable studies on creatine and the benefits to brain health. We wouldn't recommend any supplement that we wouldn't use if we filmed an episode today. I think I ate three of these in the middle of it. We use them and you want to get bigger, have more power in your workouts, recover faster. I suggest getting a couple bottles. Use promo code anti hero for 20 [e-mail]. back to soup chats.

[Drew]

Y' all have to fill some time. I have to get back to them.

[Tyler]

Oh. Oh, yeah. You know, this is. All right. I'm gonna give you a different answer to this because that one's hard. That one's kind of hard to answer. There's a couple cliche ones you can go with. I'm gonna give you a better one. Even though it's popular, this is my most favorite. Like, Maybe not Top 10 Black Sabbath, Aussie songs, and it's Perry Mason. Love that song. Love that song and Perry Mason. And not a lot of people listen to it. Or maybe they hear it. Like, I think I've heard that song.

[Don]

Forgotten song.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Perry Mason's is A Diary of a.

[Brent]

Madman is the best odds. Although the best guitar solo ever written in the history of mankind was no More Tears by Zach Wild.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's up there.

[Brent]

The weird thing about no More Tears in the middle is the weird whale noises. No one ever explains me what they are.

[Drew]

They're crying.

[Brent]

They're what? Are you being for real? Oh, that whale sounded better.

[Drew]

Blitz Chimera says, hey, Brent, you know Larry Washington, friend of J, D.O. sF, SWAT, medic, firefighter, all that. Have him on the pod, brother. He's a Florida man. Or if you want, you could have my buddy Craven.

[Brent]

Oh, here it comes.

[Tyler]

Drew's on to you.

[Drew]

That's love, boys.

[Brent]

Anybody named first name Craven is a prank, all right?

[Drew]

You got to keep your gay stuff between yourselves, all right? Zulu Whiskey, would you have D.J. and Slade on to bury the hatchet and so D.J. can publicly denounce?

[Brent]

I don't think he needs to publicly denounce.

[Tyler]

All right, here's. Let me. There's. There's something actually, I actually want to address. I may have addressed it before. I'm not the biggest sig hater. I'm. I believe the P320 has issues. I hope they fix it because a lot of people use it. They need to fix it. That being said, I've never said anything bad about Sig Guns. They did. I used. I used their 300 Blackout in combat. I love their pistol caliber carbine, like nine millimeter guns. They're fun as hell. And we've used them at fundraiser events for Sentinel and we have run those things through the paces having like guy after guy after guy after guy after guy shoot them and unload clips and have never had an issue. So yeah, Sig the brand has. Has. Has some. Has some good.

[Brent]

He just told you what you have a problem with. You should be in politics. You don't have a problem with this.

[Tyler]

You have a problem with that. But man. And I. And I do. There's. Because a lot of people use them. I hope. I hope they. They figure out whatever it is and they go back to being an amazing gun company completely and not. Not have any issues because too many people use them. Like. We can't. We can't have. We can't have problem with. We can't have problems with our guns. We can't. Yeah. It could end up being a two way issue if there's. If a. The major company like that has a big enough gun problem like you think of like the real. The domino effect that really could have for EDC guys. And it's a huge problem. So I really hope that, that. That they fix it. And if they do, I'll be more than happy to report. Guess what? Sig's back.

[Brent]

Yeah, they will and they will.

[Tyler]

They're too big to not fix it. They're going to fix it.

[Drew]

Jay, Frederick says just got done rolling. Turned on yalls pod 52. Still getting on the mats. Thank you, fellas. Oh, okay.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

Rolling a joint.

[Tyler]

Okay. All right.

[Drew]

Rolling on the mat. Very good.

[Tyler]

All right, I'll tell you what you want to put your body through the paces for. Yeah. Not. Not everyone's done Hand to hand stuff. You know, a lot of people in law enforcement and military, you do hand to hand and do rolling stuff. I mean, you want to, you want to feel how out of shape you are. Go 100 on the mat and. And you'll be, you'll be gassed. You'll be gassed in 20, 30 seconds. And tomorrow you'll have small joints and muscles hurting that you didn't. You haven't felt in a long time. Good on you, man.

[Drew]

Lumber says, what are your thoughts on SWAT teams running their selection like CAG and allowing firefighters or paramedics to try out Tyler Hart's peen?

[Brent]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't really agree with that per se, because I don't. I mean, I get why they do it, but there's a lot of logistics that come with that. Getting somebody on the local fire department to try out for the team, but they're still just a medic. I always thought, get your own medics, at least have them, because a lot of them can't. Some of them will go through the law enforcement academy so they can carry a gun on the op. But, you know, I think it'd be better to have your own medicine.

[Tyler]

Yeah, the. Well, for starters, I'm gonna go ahead and take a little bit creative liberty here and say, I think I know what you meant. But they don't hold selections like gag. You know, they have their own selection process that, that works for them, I think, I think having a. I'm gonna give a little bit of a different take on it. And this, and this is a, this, this here is, this is opinion based. I don't mind a firefighter who's already EMT qualified, maybe even like paramedic qualified to be a part of it. And SWAT guys hate me all you want. You're wrong because it doesn't really matter. You could just assign that guy to the SWAT team without anything other than his medical experience because the medic shouldn't be in the stack and the medic shouldn't be in the building during clearing. So you can take any medic you want and you can put them outside the first line Defense for medical training, for gunshot wounds and things that happen in the house are fellow. Our fellow SWAT members or fellow assaulters. They should be able to handle that. The rest of the objectives should get cleared. And then once it's clear or you take them out to the medic, the medic should not. He's not your tactical guy. He's not your tactical guy. He's a medic. Make him the best medic in the world and don't worry about tax.

[Brent]

What about your 18 deltas and being part of the team? How do you.

[Don]

Yeah, well, there's a difference there. So an 18 delta is a Green Beret.

[Brent]

Well, I know I'm saying it.

[Tyler]

Yes and no. But, but how many 18 Deltas you have on a team?

[Don]

Two at best.

[Tyler]

Yeah, right. And on the assault, where are the two? Where, where do they go? One goes one place and the other one goes another place.

[Don]

Yeah, I mean it depends on manpower, but yeah, they're not always in the stack.

[Tyler]

That's right. I don't mind one of the 18 Deltas going the house. Like we, we need the mountain, we need the manpower. But one of the 18 Deltas is outside the house.

[Brent]

Yeah, but what, what is your argument? What if there was enough people that were medics that could still go in the house that were just as good as the assaulters on the spot team?

[Tyler]

Yeah, and that's as, as long as you have one medic outside the house. I, I'm that I'm not saying no medic should ever, should ever assault. So. And I'm sure that wasn't very clear, so people would probably take, might take that and run with it. That's not the best use. But yeah, for the, for the best use. But I don't most. I haven't run across SWAT teams that are, are so like manpower short like that. Like they'll take medics because that they have a manpower that's going to get taken wrong. Sure, they're short on, on manpower. But then you need to, then you need to get in. You need more salters.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Then do something then. Do something to get more salters, not more medics. Is that, does that make sense?

[Brent]

I mean, yeah, I just, it seems different when you're like, okay, Green Beret medics. Compared a Green Beret medic and a Green Beret, let's say engineer or comms guy, you would say that equally they can both pro lead the same, you know. Right. Yes, but, so hold on, wait, wait. So but for a SWAT team, you're automatically downplaying the fact that a guy has medical experience and is proficient in medical stuff, so therefore by default cannot be an assaulter.

[Don]

No, no, I think what he's saying is the dude's not a SWAT member. Not, you know, he's not a cop. He's not.

[Brent]

Yeah, there's a lot.

[Don]

So, but what you. Back to what you said in the beginning, was there's no reason that everybody on that team can't do self aid, buddy.

[Tyler]

Correct.

[Don]

And all that stuff. I mean heck the, the average just infantry private is a better medic than medics were 30 years ago.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

Teacher, they know about it, I mean long. So it's not that hard. And it's not like they're in a non permissive environment.

[Tyler]

Let me, let me put it in a little bit of a different way. Even if you have a medical background, when you're, when you're in the stack and you're going. And you're going to that house, guess what you are. You're an assaulter. That's what you are. You're an assaulter. You happen to have medical experience but that is not your job in the house. You are an assaulter. And it doesn't matter if it's medic or commo. As a commo guy we took turns. One comma guy went in the house and did assaults and one comma guy.

[Brent]

So you don't want him having medic on the mind when he's going to have job.

[Tyler]

That's right. It's not his job. That's what I want to say. Like it.

[Don]

So if you got, if you have guys whose, whose actual job in life is to be a firefighter. Paramedic.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

They didn't wake up and choose to be a SWAT cop.

[Brent]

Oh yeah. They can't. They can't even.

[Don]

That's not their job. You know. So I get it. I mean I get it that some guys want to get in there and they want to help and be involved but inside the house in the middle of an incident is not where they're going to start triage of patients anyway. Exactly.

[Brent]

In a good and a good. The reason why those medics are so important is because they go with. As soon as he comes out of the house they are with that SWAT cop from the time they make contact with them through the ambulance ride to the emergency room. So they are the liaison for everything that happened on target all the way to the table. 100% and they can tell you when things were put on. Stuff like that.

[Drew]

Misfit13actual says just bought a signed bottle of that golden goodness. Got to support Brent and the boys. Quick question for cqb Any preferred barrel length for clearing houses, huts, buildings and porta potties. Cheers boys. I added porta potty.

[Tyler]

Okay. Ten and a half is the longest you should have and you know especially because when you talk about ten and a half and we're talking about in special operations you have to go ahead and assume or really any tactics that there may be a suppressor attached to it as well. So ten and a half all, all day long. That's and it really is like the, the industry standard for, for, for, for c, for CQB pretty much.

[Don]

I mean when you start getting shorter than that you start having issues with.

[Tyler]

Right, right, right.

[Don]

Well, not just velocity, but reliability.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I, I, I really, yeah, yeah. I don't care, I don't care about velocity at that point. I really don't like it. It's close. It's coming out, it's coming out with enough to kill anyone and, and placement over velocity is, is, is, is, is rules. What I'd say a little bit different about that is, and it's more on the extreme stuff, but magnetic. What's some of those like real small barrels? Like five, those five inch barrels. The only, so my 300 blackout was, was a five and a half with a suppressor but it had the extended handrail that went over the suppressor and so that, that is fine. So it acts so it goes back to being more like a 9 or 10 inch barrel because I can use that, that handrail. I can't have a 5 inch barrel and that's it. And then have to hold a gun all, you know, cramped up like this. So it can get too small.

[Don]

Yeah, well Magna, you could probably back me up too though when you start getting short barrels like that, they're difficult to make run well, well his run. But you've got to really, really try.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

And you got to do a lot lot.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah but magnet but and not just like shamelessly plug magnet but that those short barrel guns is something you specialized in and something you, you developed for years and years and years and years. You've, for how long you been in the industry for? Yeah, almost 20 years.

[Brent]

And by the way, five inches is huge.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

I mean that's long.

[Don]

That's more than you need.

[Tyler]

It'll get the job done.

[Brent]

You got to know how to work.

[Tyler]

That.5 inches will still get the job done. Let me make sure that that's, that's put out. It'll kill a man. Yeah, yeah. For sure. Speaking of, of Seamus Plugs, I don't do this often, but rarely have I ever put so much on the line. He said he got some of that, that golden goodness it is here. It's been a long time coming. This is bottle number one of the FRCC bourbon brand. Seven years.

[Brent]

The drunks on the Couch.

[Tyler]

Hey, man, guess what? Ozzy. Ozzy and Hulk Hogan died. And I really didn't. I really didn't plan on. On opening this. I was like, well, this is just gonna be my on the shelf bourbon for a long time. But I wasn't prepared for Hulk and Ozzy to take a nosedive on the same week. It's. It's. It's more. And still bottle number one. It's still bottle number one. That's right. And so it's on pre order right now. You can go to the website FRCC shop and, and go ahead and, and get on the list to get on one of these. I didn't want to do a pre order too soon. Like, I don't want to do a pre order. Like, oh, you'll get like a month later. So they, they, they get to the distributor next week. So the pre order time is the. The flashbang super short. And. And it is. And it is time. I got one in hand. I don't know at least how much they are.

[Brent]

At least 15.

[Tyler]

Hey, it's. It's seven years. It ain't cheap.

[Brent]

Thank you.

[Tyler]

It ain't. It's seven year bourbon. Yeah.

[Drew]

Teddy. Bruce, hold on. Oh, my bad.

[Brent]

How is it?

[Tyler]

Yes, it's cool.

[Drew]

We didn't want any.

[Brent]

You guys got to share the shot glass. There's only two of them.

[Tyler]

I got more.

[Brent]

We got solo.

[Tyler]

I brought more shot glasses. I had. I had already.

[Don]

It's almost like you thought maybe this might happen.

[Brent]

Damn. All right, Magnet. Can't wait.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Don]

I'm gonna wait for seven years.

[Tyler]

Come and get it. Come and get it, boys. I've been waiting a long time to pour this.

[Don]

Well, congratulations, buddy.

[Tyler]

Thank you. Oh, is no one else now I gotta go too. Yeah, yeah. That one's for you, brother. Yeah. FRCC bet the house on this. So hopefully, hopefully it was. It was either the best thing we've ever done or it's the worst thing we ever did.

[Don]

Yeah. No, it's good, man.

[Tyler]

No, thank you. It's not true. Edit that out.

[Brent]

He doesn't have a mic.

[Drew]

The mics are off. They might heard it. All right. Teddy Roosevelt says you guys need to build a three man team. Choose between one Rob or Shrek or Tim or Marcus. Random female cop or that Florida police impersonator Jeremy D. Build a three man team.

[Tyler]

Oh, that Florida police. Was that the guy that rode on a bike? Was he like the bike guy?

[Brent]

No, what he was, was. He was a. He was a. Never became a cop.

[Tyler]

No. Like what? Like Yeah. I always say he wasn't a cop, but was on, like.

[Brent]

No, no, no. He was a security guard, but he did escorts for funerals. And he had a security. But that's right. And he was on Dr. Phil. And Dr. Phil's like, you're. And he. Dr. Phil portrayed the uniform that he's on that he wears. He goes, you're telling me that doesn't look like a cop uniform?

[Tyler]

He's like, nope. Nope.

[Drew]

All right. Jackie's back in. Says, no. Say it, Drew. Mr. Mehof, we're just not going to do it today. Papa Penguin, my brother pontificates. Gatorade bottle, question mark. Amateur hour. Try having another man hold an MRE bag for you to shite in because you're stuck in an AAV for 18 hours in full kit with 30 other dudes while you have the rumbly tumbly.

[Brent]

Your.

[Tyler]

That's.

[Brent]

No, that's a.

[Tyler]

That's a teammate right there.

[Don]

Yeah, that.

[Tyler]

That's a teammate. Hold this MRE back.

[Drew]

You hold your own. Damn.

[Tyler]

Let me tell you, especially in Afghanistan, although we weren't on the, like, the same missions, but, like, it's. Those are. They're the same stories of sorts. We've been on some long, long convoys and presence patrols. Like, gosh, I can think of some really long. And I've never in an MRE bag on some of those.

[Don]

I've never had to crap that bad.

[Tyler]

Oh, we're pulling over. We'll pull it up. Code brown. I'm calling a code brown.

[Don]

Having an MRE bag implies that you've been eating MREs, which you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be.

[Tyler]

Yeah. For days. Yeah. Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, bad Chris Smith says, surely today we got two Outro Strongs, Real American and War Pigs. Thanks for the best show, boys. Beers up. Joe Schneider says. Brent, do you have any opinions on the Anchorage hostage situation where they failed the hotel door and retreated? Seems like once the breach is put in place for a hotel room, there's no turning back. Damuva, your thoughts?

[Tyler]

I don't know that, but I'm. I'm interested in this Anchorage hostage. In fact, I'm trying to have an answer for you before then. If I can find the video, we'll break it down tonight. Anchorage hotel hostage situation. I'm gonna look it up.

[Drew]

All right. This is Cascade Explorers for 50 bucks. Thanks for the love, man says long time listener, first time caller. War Pigs outro song. Gentlemen, 50 bucks.

[Brent]

And it's so funny because this is replaced. Just clawing back this Is replace calling in is super chats.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

He's telling his age there by saying first time caller. He's.

[Tyler]

You're online one.

[Don]

You could definitely cover more people that way.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Calling the radio station back in the. The day.

[Don]

War Pigs is gonna be a popular one. That's for sure.

[Brent]

It is.

[Drew]

Teddy Broosevelt back in says, Tyler, did you enjoy your time in law enforcement or the military? More. Got a bottle of FRCC bourbon and a CC Counterculture Incorporated T shirt on the way in the mail.

[Brent]

Oh, wow. Thanks.

[Drew]

Let's go.

[Brent]

I know mine was cheaper than that bottle of bourbon. I. I think I probably enjoyed my law enforcement career more just because there was more to do. I was in the infantry, so I only deployed once, and the other three years was doing details and cleaning out conicses. So.

[Don]

Yeah, well, you know, when you're young, you don't really realize, you know how to have fun doing it and everything sucks, you know, when you're a private.

[Brent]

Yeah, I don't know how to make. Cleaning conics is fun, but no, I guess when you get enough senior. Senior rank, you don't have to do that, which is. Is probably pretty cool. You know what's funny? In the military, that's not considered drinking on the job, because my first cop interview ever, they were like, so have you ever drank on the job? It's a pretty standard question that a lot of employers ask you. And I was like, yeah. And they're like, what? I was like, well, I usually was in the army.

[Don]

I was in 82nd.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

We go back to the barracks during lunch and take back a couple cocktails, and they're like that, son. That doesn't count, man. Jesus Christ.

[Don]

You don't want to just tell us you're an 82nd. That's all you had to say.

[Drew]

Goo91b says TK I'm sorry. I missed one. Hold on. Don't call me Pappy. Says my department is banning Sigs, and I'm upset about it. My M17 only goes off by itself when I use a We the people holster. Tyler. Love the landing strip. Stay dangerous, boys.

[Tyler]

The landing strip.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah. Usually that's not referred to a woman's vagina.

[Tyler]

That's right. That's right.

[Brent]

Yeah, that's true.

[Drew]

Oh, it is 20, 25, but, you.

[Tyler]

Know, usually referred to as a happy trail.

[Brent]

That's your chest.

[Tyler]

That's a start up there. Yeah. Okay.

[Brent]

All right. I would. I would shave a happy trail for 500 bucks.

[Drew]

Goon91 says TK lost my respect in a lot of ways. But when he called widows and mothers biatches, that was the defining moment. And he can never come back after that. In my opinion. Opinions. Rangers lead the way. 175 is the best. Battel.

[Tyler]

They're good. That's for sure.

[Don]

They're welcome to your opinion.

[Tyler]

What would be the best battalion? Dodd?

[Don]

Well, that'd be third after that.

[Tyler]

Is that where they stopped at three? They're like. They're the best.

[Don]

I think it was a fourth now.

[Tyler]

Well line battalion, but they had to.

[Don]

Make up for it after.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. Hey, guys. I just sat in on these guys doing the the third episode on tk and it's coming out soon and it is going to be good.

[Brent]

We weren't telling anybody, Drew, but.

[Drew]

What? Are you serious?

[Tyler]

Yeah, we've been hitting on it for a while.

[Don]

Look at hitting it like they don't know.

[Tyler]

Let them know I was in the extra.

[Drew]

Coming soon. I didn't say wins. Coming soon. Coming soon for all y' all who had to wait late tonight. There you go. That's it. All right. Tech cowhand says love the show. Thursday is for the boys. Toby Keith has more legit combat deployments than Timmy K. He does just do uso.

[Don]

May not be wrong.

[Tyler]

Spicy.

[Don]

Probably got more than me.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Drew]

Tactical Attic Squirrel. Nice. Brent. Curious if Delta teaches front sight focus or target focus for Pistols. Crazy Train for the Outro. Happy Thursday, fellas. 20 bucks for crazy Train.

[Tyler]

Front sight focus. Front sight focus it is.

[Drew]

Focus on the front. All right. Biggest says for 50 bucks. Marika, we need a history episode of SOCOM and JSOC, starting with the OSS War Pigs for the outro song. 50 bucks for war Pig bucks.

[Brent]

So War Pigs, please.

[Drew]

It was the first song that Sabbath opened up with on the 13 tour. Thanks, dad, for making that my third concert after seeing ACDC and Rush.

[Brent]

O. Those are good concerts.

[Drew]

Nice FRCC. John Todd says Brent does FRCC have a Hawaiian grown coffee. And what about Kawi Kawai? Kawaii grown tobacco for your cigars. And this guy's really.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he's fu. Yeah, he's fufu. But he knows. Yeah, he knows his stuff. No, we. We don't. We do not do Hawaiian grown coffee or the Cali grown tobacco for our cigars. I'm. I'm sorry, but I'm Tell you what. I bet Hawaii has some great coffee beans. But the. You. You pro. You would want to have that. So no one else would probably want to. Would want to pay for that Hawaiian Coffee is pretty expensive, American made. It's the shipping costs. The shipping costs from it.

[Brent]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

I've never had Hawaiian coffee, but.

[Brent]

Yeah, me neither.

[Tyler]

I. I could imagine. I can imagine being a little pricier.

[Drew]

Might taste like pineapples. Kevin Miller. Ten bucks says Thursdays is for the boys. Paranoid by Ozzy for closing song 10 Bucks for Paradise.

[Tyler]

Yes, the first Paranoid. Yeah.

[Drew]

Ozzy, John, Todd. Back again, Brent. The racial makeup of the unit, I assume, is predominantly white.

[Tyler]

Why would you say that?

[Drew]

Racist.

[Brent]

You can't say that.

[Drew]

Your thoughts of why that is. Altro's song is Crazy Train.

[Tyler]

It's actually really easy to say why that is. And I'll hit the easy button here because our biggest feeder units are other Whiteside special operation units and there's not very many black guys and those units. So we, we already have a low pool of, of black people to pull from. So they, they have to start filling up Seal, Green Beret, Rangers, Raider units first. Or, or we can't. Or they won't even get. Get on our radar. So they have to fill up those units first.

[Don]

This one test, now, would you say that it's maybe a accurate percentage reflection of maybe the rest of the military? Rest of the army? Maybe not.

[Tyler]

No. Because. So I've seen.

[Brent]

Have you ever been to S1?

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen this breakdown. I said that. I was like, nah, I've seen this breakdown before. And the military generally mirrors the, the public population as far as diversity.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

But here's where splinters wildly and, and as soon as you get into combat arms, minorities are much less. And then as soon as you go to the next step, special operations, even smaller.

[Don]

Smaller, smaller organizations you need to volunteer for.

[Tyler]

Yeah, of course, it's just one person, but I'll just tell you like an experience of my own. Sat down at this in processing unit. Sat down next to a black guy and he looked at me, he says, oh man, Special Forces. He said, what's that? What's that bubble? That was, it was the old school dive bubble that looked like an astronaut helmet. Didn't even know what it was. I was like, it's. It's a combat diver bubble. He's like, oh, that's crazy. He's like, he's like, I don't know why you do it, man. I was like, well. And I kind of got. That's. It's a weird question to guys like us. Why? What do you mean why wouldn't I? Yeah, why wouldn't I wouldn't. Why Wouldn't I want to be the best and prove myself and, and work with the best? And that's kind of. I was like, why wouldn't I? He goes, he goes, man, he goes, we make the same amount of money, and when we retire, we're gonna make the same amount of money. Why would I do all that? And I was like, well, I've heard that too.

[Brent]

In a weird way, he answered your own question.

[Tyler]

He's not wrong again. But, yeah, but let that, let that mindset sink in. It's one person, but that's. There's a real life story.

[Don]

I heard that exact same thing a couple times, too.

[Brent]

Joking with facts.

[Drew]

All right, John Bellwater says, mama, I'm coming home. Happy Thursday from Mississippi, boys. That's $10 for Mama. I'm coming home. Ms. Rip to the Legends, Ozzy and Hulk having a cold one for them. And other legends like Ms. Chris Robinson heard stories, but how bad was the fight?

[Tyler]

The so Chris Robinson, how bad was the fight? I can only tell it from my perspective. I was in a helicopter that day. We were supposed to land and be the assault force. Chris Robinson and that ODA were on the ground. There were blocking positions, and they're also supposed to basically secure those block positions so we could land. And it was so bad, my helicopter couldn't even land that day. The other helicopter had to land and recover Chris's body. So it was, it was pretty. What the boys are going through down, down there was pretty bad. It was also so bad that their Afghans immediately left them during the firefight. And that's where it gets dangerous. This is where, like, things are briefed to be. They're briefed to be to reduce risk. And what they do is they increase your risk. So when you show up to target to be a blocking position and you believe you have 40 guys make up the number 12, 12 ODA guys and 30 Afghans with you. And that's the amount of force you need. That's the amount of ass you need to do this blocking position. And then 30 brown guys, Afghans leave you as soon as a firefight gets bad. And it's not just that. So now you're, now you're dealing with numbers that are way below what you needed to do this. When they left their vehicles, they just on asked it and left. And they left their vehicles in a way to where the ODA couldn't maneuver their vehicles.

[Don]

So they didn't drive away.

[Tyler]

They just didn't even drive away. They just disperse. That's that, that's how bad it was. What a chaotic scene for those, for those boys to deal with. And it was, it was. It was horrible. And Chris ended up paying ultimate price for it.

[Drew]

Alex G. Says, what's up, Brenton Tyler. Another night watching my favorite podcast live. Y' all should break down this security guard shooting in Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah, and that thing looked wild. Security guard took care of business.

[Don]

Is that the same thing we were.

[Tyler]

Talking about, that what you just sent me? Yeah, that's a security guard. Because this. I was watching that for. That was a SWAT team that, that.

[Don]

Wow, man.

[Drew]

Things are busy in Anchorage.

[Brent]

Yeah, right. Alaska's. Hey, Drew.

[Drew]

Well, it's night time a long time over there, so.

[Brent]

Yeah, we gotta. We gotta hit up some sponsors.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Brent]

First one being Ghostbed. Go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero. Still haven't gotten their logo up, but if you watch the main episodes that you. You'd know. But ghostbed, one of our first sponsors. They're all handcrafted here and in Canada. 60,000/5 star rating review and they have the cooling cooling patent. I don't know how to say that. Cooling patented technology. There you go. Pretty much. They got sheets that keep you cool in the summertime. So if you're one of those people that like to have sheets on you no matter what, even if it's 110 degrees outside, go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero and you get 10% off. The next sponsor that we have is Flatline Fiber Company. Since their founding in 2019, Flatline Fiber Company has strived to create the highest quality gear with real world functionality. Trusted by SWAT teams, high level military units, police agencies, and civilian shooters across the globe, they make gear you can trust. Made in America with a lifetime warranty. They have everything you need from rifle slings to ifax to dump pouches and baseline bags. Go to flatlinefiber company.com use promo code antihero15 and get 15% off. And we got to do our Patreon. Why is it so quiet in here?

[Drew]

We're listening to you. All that important information.

[Brent]

Let's see. All right, Patreon winner. We're going to do this right now live. So I got to look, there's 81 entries. We're gonna go this boom boom. All right, Don, Pat, hit that number. Just have it 64. The number is 64, which means the winner is Cody Lummis from. I don't know where you're from, Sandpoint, Idaho. Cody Lummis, you are the winner. What was Today's giveaway? Oh, 50 bucks to Brotherhood Blades. $50 off one of their blades. So nice. Congratulations. Congratulations. Yeah, they're good dudes.

[Drew]

Their knife has cut me before.

[Brent]

Congratulations, Cody. We'll get your. Get your ticket out to you as.

[Drew]

You got more.

[Brent]

Nope, that's it.

[Drew]

We going on break.

[Brent]

Nope. Break.

[Tyler]

Another 30 minutes.

[Drew]

Break later. Hold your Pete, boys. Let's see we're at. All right. Thank you, cave diver for the love. Thank you very much. ELT this is TG Paris says LTC David Hackworth had two distinguished service. I don't know. DSCs. Distinguished Service Cross, 10 Silver Star Medals, 8 BSM with Valor Bronze star. He was considered the most decorated soldier in the army at the time when he got out in the 1970s. David Hackworth.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Don]

He wrote the book About Face.

[Tyler]

About Face. Yeah. You know too much, Don.

[Brent]

Well, I haven't read it, but.

[Drew]

How do you know it?

[Tyler]

I mean, I just know he wrote it.

[Drew]

I mean I read the sequel to that Saving Face.

[Don]

Older you get the. You know, the more useless that you know.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Justin Carling says question for the panel. When have you ever used full auto in real world? For my favorite Tucker behind the camera. Loud. Marika Tyler party all the time. Kidding. Hulk Hogan's walkout song. Real America.

[Brent]

How much you donate?

[Tyler]

100 bucks.

[Brent]

100 bucks. All right. I've never. I'm assuming he means rifle.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

And I've never used fully auto.

[Tyler]

Don, I know your answer, but I'll let you give it.

[Don]

Never.

[Tyler]

No. No. Only Tim Kennedy has. Yeah.

[Brent]

And Arnold Schwarzenegger from Commando.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Full auto with five round clips.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And it's crazy because they're so proud to be like the special operation versions of the M4s have full auto. And like what? We never asked for it. That I know of. Like why. Why do they have full auto?

[Don]

I always felt like, well, it's nice to have. I might want need this someday.

[Tyler]

But I never did. Yeah. In case we were doing. Was it the. The Aussie peel is the only thing I ever. In practice even you know that that's where it's acceptable to use a full auto. Yeah. And. And if I had to do it in real life, I. I don't know if I still wouldn't. Like. I just. I'm not. I'm not wasting those bullets.

[Don]

Wired to not.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I'm just not wired to do that. Yeah.

[Drew]

Brent Huberty. 50 bucks, boys. F word.

[Tyler]

Tim K. Love the PG 13 smack talk bucks.

[Don]

He wants to make sure Drew Will actually read it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's right. We stand for something here at 30.

[Drew]

The show. 50 bucks. I can't wait to here the Next part of TK's book about the withdrawal from. You gents. Tyler ever make it to Sharkies for steak and shake? War pigs for outro. 50 bucks for war Pigs.

[Tyler]

Oh, Warp War Pigs. All right.

[Drew]

Tyler. Sharkies.

[Tyler]

Sharky. Yes.

[Brent]

When I was a young man, I went, everybody, every guy.

[Tyler]

What? I don't know what.

[Brent]

Sharkey's a place to get steaks and shakes.

[Tyler]

Emphasis on the Shakespeare, but never heard of it. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Brent]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Tyler]

Just so you know, War. War. War Pigs is. It's. It's getting there.

[Brent]

It's.

[Tyler]

It's. Get there it is. Get there first.

[Drew]

Samuel 16. 7. $50 just to drive by at work. Wanted to say thanks. Gentlemen have no clue what the conversation is, but put this toward the song in last place, I guess.

[Tyler]

You know what? Because we just. I. I hate to not do his bidding, but I'm gonna throw it to War Pigs because I. I want to make a race out of it between.

[Don]

More pigs and what?

[Tyler]

Over the mountain. Okay.

[Brent]

Over the mountain.

[Tyler]

Over the mountain. Because off of one. Yeah, just. Just, just. Just one was all you needed for that one.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

JB says I saw a video that Miami Dade has medics assigned them from the fire rescue department.

[Brent]

True. Yeah.

[Tyler]

There you go.

[Drew]

Brian Wall says Ozzy Ultimate Sin for the closing song. That's $20. Reminds me of my high school days. Driving fast in an old Nova on country roads and parties by the camp.

[Brent]

I used to have a 76 Chevy Nova.

[Don]

Chevy Nova.

[Brent]

Yeah. They're like the. They're like the cheap Chevelle.

[Don]

Like a muscle car for high school kids.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Don]

You're on a budget. You want a muscle car.

[Tyler]

That's right. But they're still cool. Oh, yeah, but they're still cool.

[Don]

Yeah, they were badass.

[Drew]

Now, what does Nova mean in Spanish? No go. And that's why they didn't sell well in South America.

[Tyler]

No go. He knew it right off the bat.

[Don]

Yeah, well, it's no Go Nova.

[Drew]

Oh, sorry, guys. I lost my spot.

[Don]

Keep going down. We've already read some of those.

[Brent]

Let me see. I will help you catch it.

[Drew]

I'm close.

[Don]

There you go.

[Drew]

Here we go.

[Don]

Right there.

[Drew]

I grew up on the Bourbon Trail. This is Joe Saunders. Yippee ki yay. Back in. Google it. So I am very interested in trying your Bourbon.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Don]

I think you'll appreciate it.

[Drew]

Timber. Lumberjack says I work for Social Security issuing first time cards. And a lady actually named her kid Shite head. Like Shafeed, but was actually shite head. True story.

[Brent]

I would tell you, I used to. Where I used to work, there was two brothers. One of them name was lamangelo.

[Tyler]

Lamangelo.

[Brent]

It's spelled out. It spells lemon jello.

[Tyler]

No, yeah, I've heard.

[Don]

There's actually a guy in Jacksonville named Nasmo King.

[Tyler]

No Smoking King. Gosh.

[Brent]

And then, and then I've ran into another guy. I'm like, your, your first name's Demon? And he goes, no, it's Demont. Damon. I'm like, no, no, your mom named.

[Tyler]

I'm telling you, when the hospital fills these out, like they need to immediately take that and then give it to child protective services and be like, hey, if this is what they're going to call their kid, no chance.

[Drew]

No chance.

[Don]

Yeah, you're gonna, yeah, go ahead and.

[Brent]

Put him on the police record already.

[Tyler]

Just put a little tight haircuffs in the hospital. Little, little, little baby ankle monitor. Oh, okay. Okay. I don't know why Sirius XM won't pick us up. Oh, my gosh. Oh, here's all right, here's, here's all right. I, I, I have to say that I hate doing this, but I also have to protect people. A high level position, wise individual from the army called me and, and, and was talking about TK and they said, here's a problem we have. Like, yes, we don't want him as a, as a spokesman, but we need someone like, so who, like, you just sit here and tell us, this isn't the guy. This isn't the guy. This isn't the guy. Then who is the guy?

[Don]

And your first thought was Don Edwards? Right.

[Drew]

Damn it.

[Tyler]

I'm not that sorry. Damn it. Sorry I was selfish with it. But the, and, and I was like, you know what? I actually appreciate that question because usually I hate it when people come to me with a problem with no solution. Right. So here we are, just like, hey, this is your spokesman. This is your spokesman. Yeah. This is your problem, and we've never offered a solution to it. And that's actually a good question. Does special operations need a spokesman? Yeah. I mean, I think someone should be it. All that was to say there was a fleeting moment across my mind. I was like, then I'll do it. Yeah. And I was like, oh, hold on. I thought, I immediately started thinking of things we said. I covered the Podcast. I'm like, no, I don't have a chance, Tyler. Erase all the episodes they're not picking me up.

[Don]

Delete.

[Tyler]

And we just proved it again tonight. But I will say this. That's a good, that is a good question. Then, then who, Then who?

[Brent]

I mean, who should do it has to have one. An unofficial spokesperson.

[Tyler]

I think it's a good thing. I do. I think it's a good thing to parade, you know, someone. Someone or. I don't mean that like in a bad way. Yeah, every brand has an ambassador. Why wouldn't Special Operations have an ambassador? The right one.

[Brent]

Right.

[Tyler]

And, and here's the problem. And everyone's gonna maybe say everyone. You're gonna, People are gonna throw you a lot of names that are good names, but most of, the, most of the people that earned like that, that did the job don't want to be a spokesman. So you have, you have this real fine out. People who did the job were worthy of it and want to be in the public spotlight for the right reasons and are, and, and they are articulate, which is ironic that I couldn't even say that correctly. So I'm out. Yeah.

[Don]

But you know, you're safe here.

[Tyler]

Besides the lies, clean cut, articulate, knowledgeable about, about topics. Like, he was a great spokesman.

[Brent]

He already had his own.

[Tyler]

It was, it was a great, he was a great spokesman. It wasn't for that like pesky lies and integrity.

[Brent]

Well, they still gotta be in. They can't even be out.

[Tyler]

I don't know. I actually, I actually didn't, didn't go down that. And, and kind of like specify like, well, who.

[Brent]

I vote Andy Stump.

[Tyler]

Oh, but he's not a Green Beret. We're talking like Green Beret.

[Brent]

Oh, I thought you said special.

[Tyler]

I did, I did say special Operations. But I mean, we'll talk, we'll say, we'll say. Yeah, Green Beret.

[Drew]

The chads are saying Nick Lavery should be the.

[Brent]

Yeah, he's still in.

[Tyler]

All right, you know what?

[Brent]

And he won't answer his DMs spell.

[Tyler]

Spell Lavery for me. Just make sure. Okay, I will. I'm gonna look into him a little bit. I've heard his name before.

[Brent]

He's a one legged Green Beret that lost it in combat. And then came back.

[Tyler]

Hell yeah. And then came back. That's right. That's right. Okay, I'll, I'll find them. Okay. Okay. There you go. We've already, we've already started it and it's one of those things I hate to say it. If, if you're. If you do get kind of nominated and you don't want to do it, guess what? Like, if you, if you are the right guy for the job and you're capable of doing it, you have a duty. You have a duty. You do. Yeah.

[Brent]

He's still in.

[Tyler]

I love it. That's. That's so he has to, so he has to just assign him to it. There's nothing.

[Don]

This is your new job.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, is he. Is he a warrant officer now?

[Don]

Good luck finding him. I'm just kidding.

[Drew]

Jacob Schneider says Brent the videos SWAT hostage rescue on body cam by real crime videos on YouTube.

[Tyler]

So I.

[Drew]

That's the Anchorage thing.

[Tyler]

I just, I just watched it. It's. It's. We probably won't break it down because it's so long. They're so like they stop it at all the wrong times and piece it together because they're probably breaking it down to. I wasn't able to hear it. It's tough to watch that. But I will tell you this. If anyone watches it, that is the absolute prime example. And this might blow a lot of people's minds. Even though most SWAT teams might have the capability of going explosive breach, most of them don't really. In reality, it's so hard to get anyone to, to approve that if anyone watches that video, that whole thing would have been a non starter with an explosive breach. They had the hardest time getting in that looked like they had a key, tried to open it, couldn't open it, and then they tried to hit it with the. Hit it with the ram. That door was a formidable opponent and they couldn't. And they couldn't get it open. You have to. You have to. And I get it when I get it. Like with, with cops. Like, maybe it's not your first option if you're super risk averse, but man, it better be somewhere in the ABCs and IT. And you better be able to get to it. Have the option. The escalation of force. Right.

[Don]

Hotel room doors, they're designed to not be able to be breached. Oh, they're solid, you know, so like there's some, some tricks. But if you've never. If you've never practiced that stuff and you're not aware of certain things you can do. Yeah, you could have a key card, but there's still ways to barricade from the inside. And, and you know, and that's what it was.

[Tyler]

It was barricaded from the inside.

[Don]

Yeah, it's. And here's, you know, you can get it a little bit open or something. But still, like you said, if you don't have explosive breach as a capability in your back pocket.

[Tyler]

That's right, in your back pocket.

[Don]

If you know you're going into a hotel, you need to know that you know. But that's part of your, your car matrix and all that stuff.

[Tyler]

And I got to make sure. Like, like, yeah. And this is not hit on cops. Like, this is, it's the exact opposite. This is more the crap that they have to deal with. They want to be able to do these things. They're fighting it all the time. And it's another thing that I've actually have written white papers for police departments to asking for my help. Like, hey, could you help explain this better? And I wrote a white paper to prove that the city council scared to death and higher ups are scared to death of an explosive breach because they think it's going to injure and hurt people. No, quite the opposite. It. Explosive breaching on hostage rescue reduces the risk to force and, and increases the, the, the mission success. Using the appropriate size charge does all good things. All good things. And so by, by saying no, you can't, because they're scared of it, because they want to make it less risky, they've done the opposite. And they have forced these cops in the bad situations and way more riskier situations because you won't give them the tools to do their job.

[Don]

Yeah, well, not just the cops, but the public.

[Tyler]

Yeah, and the public. Yeah.

[Drew]

Now our buddy sort of buddy Jason in Gwin county, they did that explosive breach on that barricaded suspect.

[Don]

With a robot?

[Drew]

No, not with a robot, but they, they overcharged and they blew the whole.

[Tyler]

And that. And then they're gonna, then they're gonna blame that. So because, because we had to turn Mike's down because of that feedback basically talked about a situation where they had a barricaded shooter. They put an explosive breach on. They put too much explosives on, blew in like half of the household wall of the house and killed him. Okay. For starters, barricaded shooter situation solved. I mean let's, I mean let's.

[Don]

But if I'm not mistaken, that wasn't a hostage situation.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

Right.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Don]

So it doesn't matter.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Don]

You know, that's, that's a different, that's a different scenario.

[Tyler]

I was just about to say, well, that was their fault for putting too much explosives on. But actually, no, actually they saw. Yeah, actually they.

[Drew]

Problem solved.

[Don]

Problem setting.

[Tyler]

That's right. They, they took a two step problem into a one step solution. Yeah.

[Drew]

City council or the brass, that's not a good look.

[Tyler]

Right. And at the end of the day, it's their job to educate them and say. And say, hey, here's the difference and here's what we will do in this situation. And that city council and the brass has to have trust of on the guys on the ground. Which never happens. It rarely happens.

[Drew]

Jacob Snyder says Brent, the videos. No. Or he said that one. Sorry, Betty. Imperials meet curtains. Poor one for my late friend Jack. My. Oof. All right.

[Tyler]

I don't pour one for fictional individuals.

[Brent]

Or a $99 you're gonna make. You swear. You gotta pay money.

[Don]

You gotta pay more than that.

[Drew]

Goon91 says 3rd 75, known for big girls and buck teeth. Over here at frat bat, we got college girls of perfect hair. I keep my tactical will comb on me at all.

[Tyler]

I love it.

[Don]

You're not wrong.

[Tyler]

I love it.

[Don]

He's not wrong.

[Tyler]

But you know, he, he, he didn't challenge the killer mentality, the capability. He. He went that way with it. Yeah. And you're like, hey, but you're not wrong. You're right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Don]

I mean they got, they got Savannah with scad over there in Savannah.

[Drew]

Andrew says part one of two. Hey, guys. Former cop here did a few years in Nashville, Tennessee, and then came back to Desantis Land. Did a little bit at Boca Raton PD and just recently resigned. When I was in FTO again for my. Oh, and it just.

[Brent]

I got it part last department, I told my FTO and officers about these fake vet stories. No one believed me till y' all made your podcast. Much love.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Would love to share some cool, funny cop story sometime. Get over here in the studio, bro.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Come to our part of town. Tell them on live.

[Brent]

Know what me and Brent were talking about the other day? The reason we had the squad cast was to get cops and firefighters in here and just tell war stories, laugh and joke with the boys. So, you know, if you're a first spawner, former first responder, veteran, this is the place for you.

[Tyler]

And you know what? I was just in your neck of the woods. Was just on a boat with some former 20th group guys. Devin. Devin's mom's birthday and we were in Boca. They have this like sandbar kind of like inlet. And the water was so clear in this part of it. And it was cold. Cold. It was cool, like, refreshing water. It was only like 4ft deep. It was an awesome, awesome place to hang out. There's a bunch of other boats out there. Anchor.

[Brent]

I've always wanted to live there.

[Tyler]

Oh, man, let me tell you, hanging out in South Florida. Not Miami.

[Brent]

That's.

[Tyler]

That's not. But like the Fort Lauderdale. Yeah. Like area. West Palm. Like, man, that's. That's just. That's good. Like down to earth. Like beach. Beach people like scene. I. I love it. I love it down there.

[Drew]

Nate Carter. 50 bucks. Thank you for the love, man. Really, really appreciate it.

[Brent]

Monster driving a rocket. I love it.

[Drew]

Jay Fredericks says Ozzy and oh, let me Hellraiser for outro song. 20 bucks. Hellraiser.

[Brent]

That's how it sounds. Just like that's my Lemmy's voice.

[Drew]

They're gonna get you to sing the rest of the song. You keep it up. Yo been bamboozled, says Drew. When are you doing the Revelations episode? Also, why does Tyler look like a B movie action hero and Brent looks like an Arabian Santa?

[Tyler]

Just back to you, Don. You started this.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

He says that guy chose violence negativity. Because you did. Because you did.

[Don]

Sorry, not sorry.

[Brent]

What does Don look like?

[Drew]

Yeah. Nothing.

[Tyler]

Yeah, the guy who started all this hate ball cap. Yeah.

[Drew]

Too much respect.

[Tyler]

Skates by it.

[Drew]

Nate Carter back in says marine infantry now arng medevac crew chief.

[Tyler]

Nice.

[Drew]

Arrived Syria September of 2016. Was on Scott d mission that Thanksgiving. Did you know him, Brett?

[Tyler]

I know exactly what you're talking about, but vaguely like not good friends. But yeah, I'm aware. And I was there. I was there for that Loaf up.

[Drew]

Says who wins a blindfolded TK with a sack full of nades or bunt after a bottle of FRCC bourbon.

[Brent]

Love from Australia ran after a himself.

[Tyler]

No, you won't. You. You won't see me drinking a. A handle of bourbon. A couple shots of bourbons about. About my limit. I keep it. I keep it pretty low key.

[Drew]

See, Rick Rasta says simple answer unless Hulk Hogan dies. Simple answer to the racial makeup question. A lot of us dark green blue soldiers can't swim that well. Lol. Except for us from south Florida. Just being honest. Shout out to the boys.

[Brent]

Well, I learned this on the episode. I don't remember who it was, but I asked you, Brent. Oh God. Who was it? But it was ended up being the swim test. Getting rid of it was a real thing.

[Tyler]

Yeah, well, kind of. Let's see. They. Did you hear about this? About the swim test for selection is they got rid of it as an initial gate because they. Because they. Because it was racist like. But here's what we're gonna do. We're not going to get rid of it. We're gonna. It. It's not a must pass event now, but at some point before the Q course is over, you will do a.

[Don]

50 meter like classified as a weak swimmer.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Don]

Did they give you give them lessons?

[Tyler]

Well, I don't, but here's right. So here. So we'll. We'll. We'll teach them how to swim and send them to the dive team and we'll trade them up. Here's the problem I have with that. You are told by your recruiter what the must pass events are. So if you already didn't show up prepared and didn't go find someone to help you swim, everyone knows a friend that can teach you how to swim. Then you're already not made of the right material to do this job 100%. If you show up unprepared, then we have to teach you. That's not how a Green Beret was going to be successful. It's right. It ain't fair. Life ain't fair. That's right. Life ain't fair. Not everyone deserves to wear that funny green hat.

[Don]

You're already had been in the army for a while. There's a pool on every installation. There's somebody there that teaches people how to swim.

[Tyler]

That's right. There's a YMCA in every city. You just got to want it. So you've already proved you don't want it.

[Drew]

John Todd says, did you guys train in trench warfare like Ukraine in World War I? Train with a bayonet at all and its current place in today's battlefield?

[Tyler]

Go ahead, Don.

[Drew]

Yeah, since he fought, we all know.

[Don]

What makes the grass grow.

[Brent]

That's right.

[Tyler]

Blood.

[Don]

Enemy blood.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Don]

Lots of it.

[Tyler]

The, like basic training. They. They still do the bayonet. Would you go through basic 2007? Okay, so you'd have been the, the, the, the most current basic trading. The most recent. And they're never getting rid of that. This is a staple in it.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Why would they. But after basic, did you, did you ever see a bayonet again after basic?

[Brent]

Yes, we, we had to put them on. We had a pass and review from President Bush or.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

Bush for parades.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And they made us put them on our weapon.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. It's funny, that's actually a really good question because they. Everyone has to do it in basic training and at least me. And if it wasn't for that parade. Never seen a bayonet the rest of my career.

[Brent]

And it was scary because guys would pass out and they had bayonets.

[Tyler]

Oh, now you got bayonets everywhere. But the last about that is at current place in today's battlefield. That's a damn good. That's a damn good question.

[Brent]

Could you imagine if you told this generation Don Banette.

[Tyler]

Yeah, fix. Yeah.

[Brent]

You'd be a psychopath.

[Tyler]

The hell house. Yeah, remember that one?

[Brent]

All right, keep going. Super chats. No one can hear what he's saying.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Don]

Yeah, nobody cares, man.

[Drew]

Let's see. JC hero says rip Sharkies.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Because they closed out. Cascade Explorer says just for good measure. War pigs, 10 more bucks. Zulu whiskey says, if you're fired from the Delta Force, even for a gay reason, like a dui, are you also no png?

[Tyler]

Absolutely not. Two very, very different things. You could. You can be fired from the. I've seen it. You have people fight. Like, you can get fired from Delta Force and everyone wish you weren't like, oh, like. But like, because it's a stupid reason you can. PNG is a whole. That's a whole nother level. Traditionally speaking, if you get png, you can. You can get it for as easy as saying the wrong thing on a podcast. So why I'm not png, I don't know. But saying something really stupid on a immediate png. But. But if. You'd have to say something pretty dumb. But the.

[Brent]

I won't clip it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but like. But before this podcast era, like, if. If you got PNG'd from the unit, like, outside of doing something public, you done messed up. You done messed up. You did something serious.

[Drew]

That one. Clark says you guys are bad arse. I found your channel when I was deployed and was absolutely floored with the Marcus Luttrell video. Down with Kennedy. Stay up, Kings.

[Brent]

As. Were we floored by that?

[Tyler]

Yeah, we were too.

[Brent]

Hey, Drew.

[Drew]

Yeah, buddy.

[Brent]

You run those last two sponsors of the night? Guys that keep the lights on. We're gonna take a break, go pee, get some more drinks. We'll be back.

[Tyler]

Hey, guys, I want to introduce our latest sponsor, brother. The Blades. They're made for cops and first responders by cops. They make it the way they do because they know what the job means. Everything is handmade or machined in the usa. Their blades are made to be used and abused because they have some of the best super Seals offered. With the use of super Seals, general care is limited. You can use it and forget about it without the fear of rusting something. First responders are good at. Lifetime warranties come with every blade that cover pretty much anything other than losing your blade or using it to perform outlandish tasks they would usually use use the blade for probably like using it as a screwdriver. Something we've all done. They have a lifetime sharpening. You only pay one way shipping. If you want to head over to their custom page, your imagination is their limitation. They'll try anything. Once they've outfitted numerous customized blades, lasering color schemes and and sheath attachments, head on over to and get you one. And by the, by the way, I'm not a customer.

[Drew]

Yeah, we're the king of audio issues.

[Tyler]

Every day with me and I wouldn't, wouldn't be talking about them if I did my trust.

[Drew]

All right.

[Tyler]

Serakote is what we are known for, but we do a lot more. How Arms is a disabled veteran owned business specializing in custom firearm creation and gunsmithing. Richard Howe, the company's founder, was a two tour army combat veteran of the Afghanistan conflict. After his service, Richard earned his degree in marketing and founded Howell Arms. Using both the skills from his time in the army and his college degree. Richard's goal for How Arms is to redesign and customize firearms that are both reliable and combat proven. Our entire team is comprised solely of disabled veterans or family members. This is not a self feature but a choice to help other veterans transition into civilian life with a purpose and support network.

[Don]

I didn't think so until now, but I mean having a moral compass compared to Tim Kennedy, I don't think that's really saying it.

[Tyler]

That's news to me.

[Brent]

True. Hey, do you know what button to push to get us back on? Because the commercials are done now. It's just black. Oh, there you go.

[Drew]

That's because the commercial's over.

[Tyler]

Right?

[Drew]

Hopefully they heard it.

[Tyler]

We, we should, we should, we should do that one time and just have. We should do that one time and just have like three of the, three of the random guests just come back when the, when the cameras come back on and just act like nothing happened and just have them. And just have them running. Yeah, yeah. You sit over on the couch. Yeah. And let's go sit on the couch.

[Don]

Brett had to leave. It's Sam here sitting in.

[Drew]

Oh, see, not heard. Yeah, well, if I turn off the mics then the thing doesn't play well. We've got some issues. I don't even know if you can hear me now. I know you can hear me.

[Tyler]

I can hear you.

[Drew]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

Can you hear me now?

[Drew]

I don't know can you guys hear me? I don't know. Say something.

[Brent]

Check one, two.

[Don]

Hello.

[Tyler]

Well, it seems like the problem is they can hear us too. Well, all the time. They can't hear us. I believe the mics work.

[Don]

Okay, since we hear you, this is hot Mic over.

[Tyler]

Thank you. Unlisted.

[Don]

Thank you, guys.

[Drew]

All right.

[Tyler]

Why they stick around for this?

[Brent]

Joe Saunders says question.

[Don]

Coming back for more.

[Brent]

If I showed up at your door like an anti hero refugee and brought bourbon, would I be allowed to just sit in the studio audience?

[Drew]

Only if you know how to fix audio issues.

[Tyler]

Only if you bring FRCC bourbon.

[Brent]

Yeah, and a lot of people hit us up, but we give our address away when you're a couple days out. And I had somebody hit me up and asked for the address, and they were coming in December, and I was like, hey, just hit me up when you're close to getting here and I'll give you the address.

[Tyler]

That's. That's Tyler's copy. That's how comp. Background.

[Brent]

It gives you. It gives you less. If you were a terrorist and wanted to hurt us, it gives you less time to plan.

[Don]

Or if the terrorists get a hold of you and try to.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Extract information.

[Don]

Information out of you.

[Tyler]

Where are the anti hero guys?

[Brent]

Yeah, I know how to get there.

[Drew]

Haywood says hazmat listening at the firehouse. Love the show. No homo. Throw me in for War Pig. 20 more bucks. Justin Carling, a hundred bucks. Thank you, brother. For Hulk Hogan. The ultimate Florida man. Real American. $100 for real American. Thanks for the feedback.

[Brent]

I think we'll be playing three songs tonight.

[Tyler]

Well, it's. It's.

[Don]

Why not?

[Brent]

We got war.

[Tyler]

That's right. That's right. It is a real American. Yeah, they're. They've all met the threshold for it. So. Yeah.

[Drew]

Thanks for the feedback. Fully Auto is cool for the YouTube vids. Also for my second favorite, Tucker in front of the camera. Love you, CAG Daddy.

[Tyler]

Thank you, Justin. Thanks for the donation. Thanks for the support, brother.

[Drew]

Break the Destroyer says, how am I supposed to order FRCC booze when you don't ship to my freaking state?

[Tyler]

That's. That is. That is a. That is a good. Good question. And let me address that just real quick. I think I can find.

[Drew]

I tried to get his state in the chats, but he never saw mine.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I think I can get this fast enough. So the laws of bourbon is at. Or alcohol is crazy. Our online distributor can just. Can distribute to 44, 42 states. Here are the states that they cannot ship To Utah, Mississippi, Alabama, Alaska, Hawaii, Arkansas, Kentucky of all places and New Hampshire. That's. That's an eclectic group of states that won't that. That that have strict online like laws.

[Drew]

They got powerful liquor.

[Tyler]

Alabama. You telling me Alabama won't let me ship you bourbon? Are you kidding? Mississippi. So yeah they don't want the competition. So of those Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and Kentucky are so are a surprise to me. That's crazy. It's time for a revolt boys.

[Drew]

Again good timber says sorry boys I'm poor thoughts on a 30 year old reinstating and going recon prior 03118 years left because of vax mandate.

[Tyler]

Good for you.

[Drew]

And now they'll let me back in.

[Tyler]

Hell yeah. 30 years old. I went to Delta Force selection at 30 years old. You're in your prime.

[Don]

Yeah, I was about 30 when I went to SFAS.

[Tyler]

There you go. Yeah you're in your prime at 30. You really are. Yeah, I do. I think I was in the best shape of my life at 30. I think that's the that. Hell yeah.

[Drew]

Go for it and get yourself 20 off.

[Tyler]

Magnuson was a real piece of crap at 30. As if changed. Yeah. Yeah. No change. Yeah.

[Brent]

That's when I started being a piece.

[Don]

Of crap when it all started.

[Tyler]

But hey it's that. That was a half joke. But it's. But it's not at 30. Your testosterone levels even with that are going down and and as we've already covered it like generation generationally like they were going down with time. Be sure to get go to hbtrt get your levels checked out and make sure you give yourself the best opportunity that that you have at this, at this age. Yeah. Because yeah the other. The younger guys have an advantage of on you.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Take it away from them and, and go out there and kick their ass.

[Brent]

Hero Hero. 20 off every single month. HP-TRT.com Yep.

[Drew]

SF tactician says for everyone in the room. You're clearing a room in Afghanistan and find a fist sized diamond. However, the only way to get it back to the US is to butt smuggle it through customs.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

What are you doing?

[Tyler]

Although we said no gay stuff, I'm going to take exception to this because this is just valuable. This is. Yeah, this is valuable. Valuable. They call it gay for pay fist size diamond. How that's it? Well here's the problem with that. Here's the problem with that. The smaller it is, the least valuable it is. So the bigger it is like the risk and reward is there. You know, so you Want as painful as is. You want a bigger diamond.

[Brent]

You're. You're with a team, though. So who's doing it? Because if you smuggle a diamond up your butt, are you gonna share the.

[Tyler]

No.

[Don]

Well, it doesn't say anything about. It doesn't.

[Tyler]

It doesn't say anything about.

[Don]

Did he didn't say anything about a team clearing it.

[Brent]

We're clearing a room.

[Tyler]

That's right. You're doing a Rob o' Neill special. You find yourself clearing a room.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And. Yeah. Oh, gosh. It has to be worth so much.

[Don]

Then you gotta give him a cut.

[Brent]

Yeah. Or he'll rat you out.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

So anybody there?

[Tyler]

Here's the problem. I hate to say I'm not doing it. And it only has to do with this. Like, you can't walk normal and like nothing happened with that. So it's going to cause red flags. And it doesn't matter how. How much it's worth. If you can't get away with it, it's worth nothing and you lose your career.

[Brent]

What if there was no risk of getting caught? Would you stuff it up your butt?

[Tyler]

I choose C. There's no risk.

[Don]

I do something easier.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't believe that's possible. I don't believe it's possible. So I'm gonna have to say. It's gonna be painful to say no. It'd be painful to say yes, but I'm not gonna do it.

[Brent]

Brett, we need you to do this.

[Tyler]

Trust me, I want to. I want to, but I just don't. I don't see it possible.

[Drew]

Herbal Warrior says, hey, fellas. Love the podcast. I think for Tim Scambo Kennedy to clear the slate is to come on Anti Hero and address all his lies, then cough up all the money he made from his bullshite and donate it to frcc.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

This guy's got all kinds of good ideas.

[Don]

Talk about things that'll never happen.

[Tyler]

Things that'll ever happen for 600. Alex.

[Brent]

Yeah. Thanks for the 50 bucks.

[Tyler]

That man.

[Brent]

That's awesome. Here's a. What a 50 mean?

[Tyler]

Here's. Here's a question. Here's. Here's a question. Tyler. And obviously. And you don. Because you're Green Beret. Like it directly matters to you if someone makes money like this, you know, off of. Off of lies and. And being fraudulent. Is an apology enough or do they have to give the money back or. Because it's hard to tell, like, how much. Matt. And be like, hey, all this Money was made the wrong way. So here is a sizable donation. Because I shouldn't. I shouldn't have had so much money to begin with. There's probably a better way to phrase that, but.

[Don]

Yeah, I know what you're trying to say, but.

[Tyler]

You know, I'm trying to say, like. But it.

[Don]

I think it would be so hard to quantify that. Like you said, you know, it is.

[Tyler]

It is hard to quantify. That's. That's why I was just like a random, like, sizable. No nation to put action. Because sometimes actions speak louder than words does. Is it require? Is it required socially? Do you think it's a nicety? Is it required? What do you. What do you think about that?

[Brent]

I think he's.

[Tyler]

He has a point. He has a point.

[Brent]

Such a financial hit already. He doesn't have any money to do.

[Tyler]

He's already spent it, so there's nothing to donate.

[Brent]

You gotta look. Yeah. If you have a lifestyle. I mean, granted, he's got active duty pay or National Guard active pay. He's got money coming in, but, you know, his lifestyle is based off of all the sponsors and the sheepdog response and stuff. Does sheepdog response have any. Did they close down? No, still running.

[Tyler]

I'm sure. I'm sure there's less people going through sheepdog these days than there were.

[Brent]

They get a lot of one on one time, though.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You're welcome.

[Brent]

Just me and you.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Don, what do you think?

[Don]

I don't know. I mean, I would. I'm surprised if some of those sponsors might look at some of this as a breach of contract or something like that.

[Tyler]

There's another. Oh, there's a good avenue.

[Drew]

Hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[Tyler]

At least. At least hundreds of thousands, if not millions. Yeah.

[Brent]

You think Millions.

[Tyler]

Between speaking engagements, which this is tied into, that and sponsorship and. Yeah.

[Don]

You're talking kind of about just restitution. Like, I'm so sorry as like.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

Like a painful apology.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

I mean, would it be a. Would it be a good start to a gesture?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Don]

Making it a requirement, you know, like a fine. You know, like, it's like almost like.

[Tyler]

A self imposed fine.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Don]

You know, I mean, self imposed is one thing. You know, if he's. You're, you know, it's like the old saying, you know, punishable by fine means legal for a fee.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

You know.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

So it's like if they make you do it.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Don]

Are you really sorry if you do it out of the generosity of your heart? And now that we brought it up on the show. It's no longer, you know, his idea.

[Tyler]

I'm going to go as far to say as I don't believe that's necessary but. But not. Not I'm looking at to that light. I think it'd be nice put your money. That's right. Yeah.

[Drew]

What about his clearance?

[Tyler]

His clearance has to go. You cannot have a clearance to someone that you cannot that with no integrity, no morals.

[Brent]

How do you do the Afghanistan stuff with a clearance? All right. Isn't that a no?

[Tyler]

No, we'll cover that next week.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew]

All right. John Todd says have you tried the Indonesian wild? Oh, it's kivit or civet coffee. Civet coffee made from partially digested coffee cherries which has been eaten and defecated by the civet. Looks like a cat.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah. In New York City. Costs 500 a cup. It's cat shite coffee.

[Tyler]

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about for sure. That is a real thing. That is a thing.

[Brent]

It's like wano but the end of.

[Tyler]

It saying how much it costs cost a cup of coffee will I'm sure answer why no one in here. I don't want to speak all you guys like, you know, maybe you guys are bougier than I thought but. Which answers why no one in this room has had that cup of coffee.

[Brent]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Don]

Way better things to do with 500 bucks.

[Tyler]

Pretty much anything else makes you wonder.

[Drew]

About the color of that coffee.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

Papa Penguin pontificate says most SWAT units don't train enough or get funded enough for the basic skills.

[Tyler]

That's an unfortunate fact.

[Drew]

Some jurisdictions don't even like flashbangs. Because of the baby incident in Georgia.

[Brent]

Yep.

[Drew]

Nfw. Boom. Entry allowed most places.

[Tyler]

Yes. That. That's why most flashbangs the. They'll still use them, but if they do, it's usually the flashbang on a stick. Yeah. Because that'll ensure that it can't. Yeah. It can't start a fire. It can't hurt a baby. Can't hurt anyone. So they'll put us put it on a stick, smash a window and had it have it explode high up in the air.

[Drew]

Brandon Bailey says married one of those scad girls. That was a mistake. I was 3id though.

[Tyler]

Live and learn.

[Brent]

Yep.

[Don]

I bet it was fun while it lasted though.

[Tyler]

Is right. That's right.

[Drew]

Unlisted Brent opinion on.

[Tyler]

That'S a proud bunch. I don't mean that in a bad way. I love what a unit is. Is prideful and backs it Up. And they. And they do. The Bo Burgdoll thing was. Was horrible. Like. Like, he's. He's a piece of crap for walking off base. But guess what, man? The guy spent, like, five years in Taliban control. Tortured. He's mentally messed up the rest of his life. I know. People really. Last week was, like.

[Don]

Had, like.

[Brent]

Yeah. Five times last week.

[Tyler]

He got brought up a lot.

[Brent]

Randomly thought he was in the news.

[Tyler]

Yeah. But guess what? Everyone. Everyone wants. Wants some, like, some sort of, like, extra punishment. And I get it. I get it. My personal opinion. Time serves.

[Brent]

Wait, so you don't think. You don't count it as treason for leaving. For deserting?

[Tyler]

All right, so I'd have to look better at the definition of treason. Like, the answer. So now I got to give you, like, an answer of what I believe about it. That's desertion. You're right. So treason to me would be like, you left and you joined the enemy. There's treason.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I mean, but no, just deserter. He's a deserter. And they do deserve to be punished. But. But that's why I go back to. And he was punished how? Kind of punished him by the Taliban. Punished the hell out of that dude for five years.

[Brent]

Smuggle this diamond.

[Don]

That's your smuggle buddy right there?

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's your smuggle buddy.

[Brent]

You think? Never mind.

[Tyler]

Okay, Wyatt.

[Drew]

Darrell says explosives would make clearing calls easier. Fire needs lift assist, question mark. VIP it.

[Tyler]

Bip it. Bip it.

[Drew]

Song. Real American. Also, can we get a Spotify gym playlist?

[Tyler]

We do need to get up.

[Drew]

So real American.

[Tyler]

Solid, like, connected playlist.

[Brent]

Anti hero playlist.

[Don]

Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

What's fire needs lift assist, question mark? Bibbit?

[Brent]

No idea.

[Tyler]

Fire needs explosive. Would make clearing calls easier. Yeah. Fire needs lift assist.

[Drew]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

Dang it. Oh, no.

[Don]

You're gonna have to use more plain English.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he's saying all the right things. I mean, he knows what he's talking about. I just have. Yeah, but we don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

Too short on the shorthand.

[Tyler]

Yeah, too short of the short.

[Drew]

Anders says Boca Raton guy again, responding to that invitation. I'd love to come on the show. I'll actually be in Orlando at the parks in September. Let's make it happen. Time and place.

[Tyler]

There you go. We'll see you then.

[Brent]

Yeah. Hit email us the antihero podcast, Gmail dot com.

[Drew]

This is Goon 91. This is our guy up there. This is my dad.

[Tyler]

Generational.

[Drew]

He says my dad was 375from 88 to 98 and was in Mogadishu, so I can't ever downplay them too much.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

But side note, before I went regiment, I was in seventh and loved working with you Green Berets. RIP Mike.

[Tyler]

Mike Goble. Another guy that mentioned in Tim Kennedy's book. 7th GSB is 7th Group Support Battalion. He's a support guy for special Forces, where he went over to Ranger Battalion.

[Don]

So I was in 375 at the same time as your dad, so.

[Tyler]

Yeah, check that out.

[Don]

We know each other.

[Tyler]

Hell, yeah.

[Drew]

Papa Penguin pontificate says the only Thing worse than TK's moral compass is tonight's audio.

[Tyler]

Even still.

[Drew]

What are you talking about? This is the best we've ever done.

[Tyler]

We've done worse. That's for sure. We've done episodes that had no audio, so we've done worse. Oh, my gosh.

[Drew]

All right, Joe Saunders. Yippee Kayes back in again. Kentucky won't let you ship bourbon. I feel a riot might be coming on. Joking.

[Tyler]

No joking.

[Brent]

All right.

[Drew]

A power Hightower. Thank you very much. 10 bucks right at the end of the chats here in a couple more. All right. Haven't seen him all night. In light of this diamond in arse discussion, Brent's torn taint story is sounding awfully suspicious.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, the two. Two separate. Two separate incidents.

[Drew]

TG Paris says Colonel Hackworth's book should be mandatory.

[Tyler]

Feeling that way after. After reading that, for sure.

[Drew]

That's it.

[Tyler]

All right. So mandatory. In honor of Hulk Hogan, Let me tell you what should be mandatory. Watching. And I learned a ton about Hulk Hogan. Joe Rogan experiences podcast with Hulk Hogan.

[Brent]

Good.

[Tyler]

He's great. He sits down for three hours and talks about his backstory. He was in a band. And he talks about his first, like, kind of interview as. As a wrestler with his other, like, pro wrestler who breaks his leg, like, in the. Of sorts, like the. The. The mock wrestling, if you want to.

[Brent]

Call it, like, intentionally wrestling, is mock.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Breaks his leg. He goes back home to his dad with a broken leg, and his dad beats him up and is like, how dare you ever let another grown man break your leg? And so he recovers from it, goes back and. And does better, and that's what kind of starts his wrestling career. But the whole podcast is crazy because he was in wrestling, as, you know, back when wrestling was very regional and it wasn't a national thing. And so very territorial, almost redneck mob, like. And so he has crazy stories of the old days and talks about the whole transition of when it became like a national, huge popular thing. Just a great podcast. You want to learn. You want to know something about Hulk Hogan? Go watch that podcast.

[Brent]

The MC Man Netflix series, too, is.

[Tyler]

I started watching that. I started. I have not finished watching.

[Brent]

It was filmed. 95 of it was filmed before his scandal came out where he had to resign. And it's still bad. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Oh, it. Gosh, it is.

[Drew]

So you guys got any. You guys got any opinion on the news this week about the DOJ coming? You know about the documents revealed on the Russia thing in 2016 being fabricated by the Obama administration?

[Tyler]

So it was. Well, so to clear that up real quick, we knew it was fabricated by the Steele dossier, and Hillary Clinton campaign essentially financed it. So it was completely originated by Hillary Clinton. Here's the problem. The Obama administration looked into it as they should, to be honest with you. But here's where they went awry. When the Obama administration knew for a fact that it was fake, they should have said, hey, this is fake, and something should have been done about it. I can't think about anything more illegal. Europe's. If you're upset about Russia tainting an election, how about a stop to it? Yeah, how. How about a presidential candidate tainting an election by paying for false information and putting out there like. Like it was. Like it was real. How is that okay? And instead of telling the truth, they doubled down on it and they started talking about how real the Russia interference on this election was, even though they knew it was false.

[Brent]

Yep.

[Tyler]

I mean, that's. That's crazy. Yeah, that really is crazy.

[Brent]

Doesn't surprise me, though.

[Tyler]

I know. And you guys can flame me all you want for this. I'm not an Obama supporter. But he's a likable guy. The guy's. The dude's a likable guy. I'd probably. I might even have a beer with. With the guy. I sure as hell I'd have a beer with Bill Clinton. Old school Bill Clinton. I would. But then, like, you hear things like that. You're like, you know what? Nope. You're just like the rest of them. You just. You're just better. You're just better at putting on a facade than other people. Yeah, you're just smooth, but you're a turd like the rest of it. Gosh, that it does. Like, there's no room in American politics for that. There. Like, there isn't. The American people deserve better.

[Brent]

I don't know. Eddie Gallagher blew my mind when he said, you know, he knows people in D.C. and all that. And he's like, it's just a nasty pit of backstabbing and parties with drugs and hookers. And he's like, you, you want to be the guy that goes and changes that, but you'll get nothing done because you don't make deals with all these people and they don't bring you in, you know, gross.

[Tyler]

How do we fix it? Is it, is it an animal that's too big to be fixed? That's, that's an honest question. I don't know. And I hate saying there's not an answer.

[Don]

I might have answers, but we probably can't talk about them here.

[Brent]

Yeah, the FBI has entered the chat.

[Tyler]

You and George Washington would have the same answer. That's right. So the easy answer for that, which is, I hate to say, an impossible answer they have, like they need to police themselves, but hold on, let me. And he said, well, they're not going to police themselves. How about this? At the end of the day, we do believe elections are, elections are real. And you know, elections. I mean, not, apparently not all. I don't believe, I don't believe Biden beat Trump. But that's, that's, that's a one off national election.

[Brent]

That is. And it's a crazy.

[Tyler]

Local elections are real and your vote matters. Vote in people that won't go with the status quo like we, It's a long term plan and you may not be happy about that.

[Brent]

Well, teacher. So you got to teach your kids that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, exactly. So who puts these, who puts these dirt bags in power? We do. So who's actually at fault for this? I mean, you're not going to like me spinning this, but it's true, we're at fault for this. So when, so if someone, you know, does baffle you with bs, you're like, well, that's not the guy. Well, good. He's a one term person. Get him out. Let's put other people in there, drain the swamp. So he says, you got a problem with the school system, Drew? You got an answer for that? Because something tells me do. Because I do. And I bet it's the same answer.

[Drew]

School them like they did in early America at your house, at home.

[Tyler]

It doesn't matter what the school teaches them. Your kids do, how they were raised. And we have parents and families that aren't involved in their kids life and won't teach their, their kids what's right from wrong. They, they allow the school system to instill morals and to instill thought process and ideas. Into them without checking them. There's nothing the school system to do that. That good parents can't undo. So he said, but the problem is the parents now were taught by the school, and so they're gonna, you know, continue until the circle continues. I. That I don't. That I don't believe to some degree, and I'll tell you why. And Tyler, tell me if you think I'm right about this. Yes, that's true to a point. But, you know, what's the saying? Like, you're. If you're. If you're. If you're not a. If you're not a Liberal in your 20s, it's because you have no spine. But if you're not a conservative and you're in your 30s and you have no brain, like, that doesn't last forever. People eventually hit the real world and they find out what real is like, and they change.

[Brent]

Yeah. I think, though, that the reason why youth is liberal in their mindset is because they're told that they're supposed to be, and then common sense kicks in. So if they're never told that they're supposed to be like that and they're raised the way their parents taught them to be raised, they might even be able to health. Healthily skip that step.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. Gosh.

[Tyler]

Can't even forget his name. Kirk. The guy goes and does all the. The school. Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk. Thank you. In a weird way, I think social media is actually taken and the youth is taking a little bit of a turn.

[Don]

There's a pendulum swing.

[Tyler]

There's a pendulum swing. There's guys like Charlie Kirk that are. That are. That are professionally and politely challenging the status quo and saying, well, let me debate you, and let's have an honest conversation about that. And on the honest conversation side, conservatism always wins. And I think they are changing people's opinion of mine. And it's hitting YouTube channels and they're getting wild views, man. Yeah, there's only one Charlie Kirk, unfortunately. That dude. He's good. He's good. He does. But, yeah, there needs to be more of them.

[Brent]

We kind of saw it when those. Those guys from South Carolina, I think, went. Protected the flag from being torn down.

[Tyler]

Yes, I believe it was North Carolina.

[Brent]

North Carolina.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's right. They went. Exactly.

[Brent]

And you know. Yeah, that was.

[Tyler]

The pendulum is. There's. If you're looking for reasons to believe the pendulum is swinging. It's. It's out there. It's out there.

[Don]

We just have to celebrate that more.

[Tyler]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And as we grow, like we talked about it, and now you're not a cop anymore, so you have. You have some more freedom of movement. Like, when things like that happens, we need to pack up the studio and help go and help go celebrate it.

[Brent]

Yeah. The problem is those things happen quick. They're in use, and they're done quick.

[Tyler]

Yeah, for sure.

[Brent]

Hey, we're going mobile, though. We've. We've got the. We've got the setup to now go if we need to go somewhere, have a live show.

[Don]

Heck, yeah.

[Tyler]

Did you get. Did you get all ordered up? Yeah. Drew, you figure it out yet?

[Drew]

Figure what out?

[Tyler]

He's. He's a little jaded from tonight. Tonight. We'll talk about it later. We'll talk about later. Not tonight. We're going simple when we go.

[Drew]

Yeah, we'll have a different. There'll be a mobile producer. It won't be me. Brody Martin says regarding explosives used by police in 2016, Dallas PD&H. Used a robot buddy delivering explosives.

[Brent]

Killed that dude.

[Drew]

Present. Present for that POS who ambushed for teen cops. God bless y'. All. And voting for Hulk Hogan. Walk outside.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

50 bucks.

[Tyler]

Sure.

[Don]

Oh, yeah. I got a place.

[Drew]

William Osborne says, hey, guys. Hope y' all are doing well. Know y', all, like, military history. Have y' all ever thought about doing an episode on ancient military tactics, I. E. Hannibal's tactics against Rome?

[Tyler]

Oh, I do. I love that idea. I actually haven't thought about it, but that. That. That is a. I. I don. Was there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we haven't come in as an eyewitness.

[Don]

We could talk about the Phalanx.

[Tyler]

Pros and cons and the trebuchets. They have tribute. Yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Hey, what's up? What was that? What? That thing that we still have not found out how. It was a Greek fire where it could, like, burn on, like, napalm. Like somebody perfected way back in the ancient times. It was like napalm fire, but it wasn't napalm.

[Don]

It was like naphtha or something.

[Brent]

Yeah, we've never.

[Tyler]

No.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I don't know that.

[Brent]

I wish I had not said that without research.

[Tyler]

Anybody? Anybody? Welcome to my life.

[Brent]

Hey, Drew, can you check the emails I sent a. A link. We gotta watch one Hogan clip before the night's over with.

[Don]

Hell yeah, brother.

[Brent]

Oh.

[Tyler]

If. If we. We'd have been a little bit more prepared for this podcast. We had a lot of ideas, but doing the TK episode for three hours before this did did not help. Man. I. I really wish we'd. Yeah. That. That we were gonna have to talk. Someone was gonna have to talk in a Hulk Hogan voice the whole time. And someone was gonna have to shake and. And stutter like Ozzy the whole time. Should have. Should have done it. Should have done it. Yeah.

[Brent]

We didn't have a lot of time. I don't. I think Party Party City's probably sold out of.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right, we're gonna try this. I'm gonna have no idea what the audio is going to do.

[Tyler]

Okay, here we go. Look at him.

[Brent]

This is when he turns bad guy.

[Drew]

Radiant.

[Tyler]

Someone described Hulk Hogan as a man with skin like a hot dog and hair like a Chinese woman. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. That's hilarious.

[Drew]

Go get him, baby.

[Tyler]

Come on and get some of this. Now, you know this is when he turns evil.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You called that in the first five seconds of this clip. The atomic leg drop. No, not on the Macho man virgin. Macho man died of a heart attack while driving. Not from the leg drop. Newest member of the nwo. What the hell is going on? Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? When you're nine years old.

[Brent]

This is real.

[Tyler]

It rocks your. It rocks your mind. It rocks your nine year old.

[Don]

Everybody's got goosebumps right now.

[Tyler]

Unbelievable. I think what's hilarious is when I was watching the Macho man documentary, they're like, I've been saying all these. He never came out of character. Like Macho Man. Like, eventually believed he would. Like, that became his personality.

[Brent]

I don't understand how the leg drop.

[Tyler]

Is as devastating as I know it's right there in the crux of his knee that clearly has a bend in it right now. We are not going to even acknowledge that three count. Now what happens to us? What happens now to witness. Too sweet, baby. Tyler, tell me who the other two guys are.

[Brent]

Kevin.

[Tyler]

Red, but he's wearing red and yellow. I could have got it multiple toys, but I actually, actually couldn't. What do we do now?

[Brent]

You can stop it.

[Tyler]

I'll tell you what.

[Brent]

They just get bombarded with trash. Everybody starts throwing stuff.

[Tyler]

Oh, really?

[Brent]

So Scott hall, actually, he died.

[Tyler]

But what did he die from?

[Brent]

He was all messed up. I think probably heart attack, but he.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna Google it, and I believe heart attack was a good guess. Yeah, he killed.

[Brent]

He killed a guy outside of a strip club on Orange Blossom Trail. Here.

[Tyler]

Oh, no.

[Brent]

Before he was a wrestler.

[Tyler]

Oh, really?

[Brent]

Security guard.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

When he retired, he used to be able to drink with him.

[Brent]

Really? Yeah.

[Tyler]

Vito with Froggers.

[Brent]

Kevin Nash lives. I don't want to say. He lives in a very small city south of Daytona on the beach.

[Tyler]

All right, you ready for this real quick, but it's cause of death or did I interrupt you? No. Okay. Scott hall, professional wrestler known as Razor Ramon. Okay. Died due to complications from a hip replacement surgery and specifically three heart attacks. Oh, over. And Three heart attacks over the weekend. He was 63 years old. Three heart attacks in one weekend.

[Brent]

You tell. I want.

[Don]

So he survived two heart attacks.

[Brent]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It took three heart attacks. Take that guy out.

[Tyler]

And what do they say? Like, there's a statistic out there. Like, it's. It's use the first heart attack that kills you, and if you survive the first one, the chance of you surviving other ones after that's pretty high.

[Brent]

But the first one, except for the.

[Tyler]

Third one, three strikes are out. Generally speaking, I don't think that within that. That, that they don't. They don't quantify, like, three heart attacks in one weekend. Yeah, that's.

[Drew]

He was iners one night drunk and challenged one of the MMA guys from the training gym down the street to a fight. And everyone was like, no, no, no, no.

[Tyler]

So he was at froggers, he was drunk, and he challenged a MMA guy to a fight. He was a large Hulk Hogan. 66, right?

[Brent]

Yeah, he's. Yeah.

[Tyler]

But, yeah, okay, six, three, six, four. So that'd make him like six, six, six, seven.

[Brent]

Yeah, he would come out drunk, like Hammer drunk. He would do wrestling matches and they just knew that's who he was.

[Tyler]

Why are you being so judgy? Sounds like you.

[Brent]

But that's how good he was.

[Tyler]

He could still wrestle. Anyone can do it sober. Yeah, that is right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Rock stars do it all the time. They don't get credit for it. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. Hey, we. We say it all the time. And I guess now that Hulk's dead, generally speaking, it seems like, hey, like, the body's like, get lies. Like, guess what, guy? You can do one or the other. You can do a lot of testosterone or you can do cocaine. You can't do both.

[Don]

You can't do both.

[Tyler]

It's like, come on, man.

[Brent]

Yeah, you can't take painkillers for the pain during the day.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Cocaine before the match.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Alcohol at night.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Ric Flair's in the chat and says, I have something to say about that. That's what he has to say. About that.

[Brent]

He's like the Rolling Stones of wrestling.

[Tyler]

Oh, my gosh. Could you imagine. Oh, could Getting an all. Like a true no holds bar interview with Ric Flair. Just to tell. Like, just a tell all.

[Brent]

Let's do it. I've tried. I reached out. I.

[Tyler]

Well, here.

[Brent]

The problem is that a lot of people, they're very hard to get a hold of. That's just the hardest thing. I even. So I emailed Kevin Nash because he lives around here to come on. No answer. But I messaged the FBI agent that you talked about and he said, yeah, sure, get a hold of my publicist.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

All right. Hey. All right, here's what we're gonna do. I know people in. In. In Tampa that see him. I know where he frequents. I want to offer him a limo ride up here from Tampa. From Tampa. It's got to be about the same price as a flight. A limo. We get more limo, Right? That's worth having a podcast with two strippers. That's right. Yeah. We're redneck rich now. I don't. I don't mean to flex, but we are getting a. We are upgrading our trailer from a six foot trailer to like a nine foot.

[Brent]

Here's the thing about our. Our money literally goes back into this.

[Tyler]

Spring for the extra axle.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Do you know the maintenance on two axles on a trailer, Don? Get out of here.

[Drew]

Four tires, toll cost.

[Brent]

Yeah. Every time we go to an event, it's like, no, this is my half the trailer. Get out of my half of the trailer.

[Tyler]

It's ridiculous. We're so. We. We live so poor. People have no idea. Like all your.

[Brent]

We've never washed the white trailer once.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Like when people complain about our. All of our ads, like, come see how we come. Come see how we live.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

We got. Let me show you.

[Brent]

When we have issues in here, we got to pay an audio engineer like a thousand dollars a day to come fix it for a month and then it breaks again.

[Tyler]

Yeah, for sure. All right.

[Drew]

Chris Smith says, can't get FRCC cigars or bourbon in Australia. I'm moving to the u. S. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Legally, of course.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Sharks.

[Tyler]

That should be.

[Brent]

Hard.

[Drew]

Stuck says, did you ever run into. Hear about Russian soft during your contracting days or while in the unit?

[Tyler]

No. They're like, of course heard about the Wagner group, which is the contracted, like, retired version. But I don't know what the Spetsnaz have done to earn like, their. Their mystique other than the classic, like, if you don't give out information. Like people will fill it. I don't know. Show me the last time the Spetsnats traveled half, you know, half a world away to hit a target.

[Don]

I mean, they can't even go next door.

[Tyler]

That was a good Ukraine joke. I mean, that was a solid Ukraine joke.

[Don]

Stuck in the mud.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he's right. Yeah. Well, that was a, that was a Wagner group. But yeah, that's. But the, the actual Russian soft. Someone tell me what they've done.

[Drew]

Well, the BDD, they say that they, they're. They have like 90 within the first year of the war. So their airborne core is just. Absolutely.

[Tyler]

Yeah, they're the. They have. And here's, here's the thing. We'll never really know like what, what the toll has been taken on Russian troops because they won't accurately report it. They. They've. It's. It is easy to assume and anyone here can, can correct me or say something, but I'm going on a limb here and I've, I've done some research on this randomly. It's easy to assume. They've lost hundreds of thousands of people to this war in this war and this war with the Ukraine. Hundreds of thousands.

[Drew]

British military Ministry of Defense.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

Places their casualties dead.

[Tyler]

So the, so the British. So the. He was. Since we have mic problems.

[Drew]

Yeah, Repeat it. They can't hear you.

[Tyler]

Yeah, the, the British basically.

[Don]

Mod.

[Tyler]

The mod has estimated. So their, their official estimation. Not just like a newspaper, not a podcaster. Their MOD estimates the dead Russian casualty count at a quarter million. Holy. Yes.

[Drew]

When they tried to take the airport, they quite literally lost entire plane.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. They didn't do a good job taking back some Ukraine and airport or taking some Ukraine. They took some heavy tolls on that. Here's some things that, that aren't that's reported, but this doesn't get picked up. It's been going on so long, like it's. I think there's some, some fatigue with the Ukrainian war. Russia emptied out prisons to go fight this war and they gave them the most janky World War II type equipment. And we know this because Ukraine has been in their trenches and they've seen like this equipment and these 1942 guns. And what it's coming from is a. Russia is putting prisoners on the front line and arming them. Being like, well, you could rot in a Russian prison or you can go fight for the motherland. And those guys don't want to fight or aren't trained to fight and can't fight. So some of those numbers are. Are bloated. Not that the numbers aren't real, but like, the reason behind the numbers because they put untrained prisoners on the front line as well. To be like. Well, better you than. Than. Than. Than our first string military.

[Don]

Yeah, I mean, that's one way to solve your overcrowding problem.

[Drew]

They're saving money. Coming.

[Tyler]

They're saving. Yeah, yeah.

[Brent]

You ever seen that movie Enemy at the Gates?

[Don]

Yeah, I've.

[Tyler]

No.

[Brent]

It's the Russian sniper versus the German sniper.

[Tyler]

There you go. Okay.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Yeah. And in that. In the opening scene, it was Stalingrad.

[Don]

I think y. Stalingrad.

[Brent]

And they were like the. The. The general. Not the generals, but the officers. The commanding officers were telling the Russians, if you retreat, we're going to shoot you. So you either take the bullets from the front or we're going to.

[Tyler]

Bullets in the back.

[Drew]

Goon. 91 says, yeah, I seen this. Go. 91 back in again.

[Tyler]

Go.

[Drew]

Yeah, I seen where Timmy put Mikey in his book, then tried to use him for his lies as a defense. It drove me up the wall. Mikey was a solid man. It was a pleasure working with him.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You get it. Thank you, Goon. You're absolutely right. Thank you for. Thank you for mentioning that, Steve.

[Drew]

Thank you for the 99 cents. Appreciate it. Bus Bay says TK has the school of Apogee.

[Tyler]

I don't know if I'll cover it, so I'll go ahead and cover it here or I cover it twice. You know the School of Apogee is in a lawsuit right now. Right. So.

[Brent]

But yeah, it had nothing to do with anything that we were talking about. We. We brought that up. And at the time, it was for other reasons. Reasons.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Brent]

I remember that kind of vaguely.

[Tyler]

So. So. So what. What it's for. It's for IP theft and intellectual property theft. So apparently, there's a private school that someone at his private school was affiliated with, and when he moved over, stole some IP from the private school. So if you want to make a stolen valor kind of connection joke there. It's. It's. It's just there in the waiting. So not only does he steal stories from other combat vets, he apparently steals curriculum and IP from other private schools for. For his own. It's like. It's. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Drew]

Yo been bamboozled back in again. Says I work for local school district as a custodian. Thank you, brother, for your service. Yeah, dad. Gum. This thing just gonna drive me nuts.

[Brent]

Dad. Dad.

[Drew]

G. Oh, I lost the.

[Brent]

I Don't have that.

[Drew]

Super chats. Give me a sec. I'll get it back.

[Brent]

Well, I'll go from the ground up. I keep seeing vids of Russian SSO ambushing Ukrainian convoys. Which is why I ask. I know almost the entire VDV got wiped out early in the war, though.

[Tyler]

That's. That's what he was talking about.

[Brent]

Yep, I got it. Oh, you got.

[Drew]

All right. So. Yo, Bamboozled says I work for a local school district as a custodian. It all starts at home, period. I can give examples, but for all you parents, please make sure you thank a custodian. Well, absolutely, man. Thanks for your service.

[Don]

Clean up after all that.

[Drew]

Couldn't do. And I knew some good custodians at Seminole High School, so some. Sometimes they. They talk with kids that other people won't.

[Brent]

So Mr. Gary hated me.

[Tyler]

You hear the disdain still in his voice?

[Brent]

At school once. And he kept it in his janitor closet forever. And everybody was new. Is in there. Like, dude, your skateboard's in there.

[Tyler]

We see it all the time. Your power parole. Your power parole to skateboard.

[Drew]

Mine was Mr. Beasley. Isn't that amazing that we remember custodians.

[Tyler]

Look at that.

[Drew]

Beasley and he went to high school with our dad.

[Tyler]

Oh, really?

[Drew]

Yeah. Brandon Bailey says Macho man and Hulk interview where they were both coked up is amazing. Just how. From how insane it is. Have the link if you want it. War Pigs as well, Marika.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Drew]

War Pigs for another five bucks. Yes. Seen that video a long time ago.

[Tyler]

Have you? And maybe this is. I don't follow wrestling as close. I don't know if I've seen, like, videos of Hulk Hogan being coked up, but I'm sure he was in and around. I'm sure maybe he had. It's safe to say no.

[Brent]

You watch it and you're like, damn, dude.

[Tyler]

Maybe over here in denial. I'm over here in a denial.

[Don]

We're trying to pay respect.

[Drew]

It's okay.

[Brent]

Wrestling went downhill when they took out steroids and cocaine. That was just. What?

[Drew]

When did they take him out?

[Brent]

What do you mean they took it out of wrestling?

[Drew]

When all the boys are still on steroids.

[Tyler]

No, no, dude.

[Brent]

Regular sized dudes now.

[Tyler]

That's why I don't watch, apparently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, man. That's where they lost me.

[Drew]

Brody, are we sure they're dudes? It's 2025. Brody Martin says rip to Thunder Lips. Who's Thunder Lips?

[Tyler]

Thunder Lips.

[Drew]

Rip to Thunder Lip. Oh, is that Aussie.

[Brent]

Oh, Name that was Hogan.

[Drew]

Yeah. Is that Hogan?

[Tyler]

Oh, that was Hogan. In the Rocky movie was Thunder. That's the best name they could give him in the movie was Thunder Lips.

[Brent]

That's weird.

[Don]

I mean, he was the villain.

[Tyler]

It makes me think of a Thunder Lips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. That's the name I'm giving to a girlfriend that. That broke up to me. Broke up with me. I'm so mad at her. So I'm gonna make sure. Behind your back. Yeah. So I'm gon that IO campaign, like, that's. That's what. I can't.

[Brent]

Did it. All right. And then he did dumbass ones like Mr. Nanny and. But, yeah, the rest of that one.

[Drew]

Also. Great episode with Chris Hazar. Me and all the voices in my head are great.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I just.

[Drew]

You.

[Don]

You had Chris.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, man. You know Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris has an hour on the show he was on.

[Don]

You know, like, Chris is like.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Don]

You had this guy Chris, like Hasenhauer.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. Podcast. That's cool. You know, he's the battalion pa. That's what I heard. That's so crazy. I love it. I love it.

[Drew]

All right, last super chat for now says hard stuck. I keep seeing vids of Russian SSO ambushing Ukraine convoys, which is why I ask. I know almost the entire VDV got wiped early in the war, though.

[Tyler]

All right, it's about that time.

[Brent]

Is that time. We're gonna do three songs. All right, Three songs.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna kick it off. Where does Drew get his technical difficulties from?

[Drew]

We got the same mom.

[Tyler]

No, it's you. It's you and your Bluetooth.

[Brent]

No, it's not.

[Tyler]

Yeah, every week.

[Drew]

Just regular dudes.

[Tyler]

I should know better. I. I take partial blame for that.

[Brent]

Every time you go to turn that thing on, I should know to turn it off.

[Tyler]

Rick Daringer, sing a song.

[Brent]

God, that's punk me up. Was this made for Hogan or was this a song before?

[Tyler]

That's a good question. Help us out. Was this. Was this made for Hogan, or is it a song he picked?

[Brent]

Let us know in the chat.

[Tyler]

Magnet. Do your job. You get that chair all by yourself as a reward for doing this. Walking out like this. Oh, this still hives. It's not a great song. It's not. It's not a great song. He makes it great, but. That's right. But he makes it because it's associated. Yeah. Because it's associated, it is now a badass song. Oh, man, I can't believe.

[Brent]

I probably he probably had ones on standby.

[Tyler]

I can't believe we're now playing this song like in memory of Hulk Hogan. I've heard it a hundred times.

[Brent]

He would have been a great anti hero guest.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Drew]

Well, the chats say he wrote it. You know, he was in a band.

[Tyler]

He was in a band. He wrote it. He wrote it.

[Brent]

He wrote it.

[Drew]

That's what the chat said.

[Tyler]

Hold on, hold on. Mag, what do you got? Originally made for the tag team US Express, but after they left, Hogan adopted it. There you go. Now there's some controversy. Now there's some controversy.

[Drew]

I'm gonna rewrite history. He wrote it.

[Tyler]

Hey, wait, was this during the Cold War?

[Drew]

Nobody cares like love.

[Tyler]

That's why he was so, like American.

[Brent]

Like that American thing?

[Tyler]

Probably. Probably. I. I think so. Oh, man. Makes me want to rip my shirt. But I'm going to need some of those like, pre cut things to make it a little bit easier. Yeah, for sure.

[Drew]

Oh, the chats are saying they were being sarcastic.

[Tyler]

Oh, well, guess what?

[Drew]

You know I'm going to read it.

[Tyler]

Well, guess what? Every time I'm wrong now, that's what I'm gonna say. Oh, oh. I said it could only hold five rounds when it can hold eight. I was being sarcastic. I was being sarcastic. Yeah, that's right. I'm never wrong anymore. I'm just sarcastic. No, the chat probably was being sarcastic actually. Oh, thank you, Drew. Chris Smith. Jimmy Hart wrote it. Now you're messing with us. T Bone just wrote one word, brother, which is exactly how. Yeah, brother, man. Night driveway bay watch. That blew my mind in the most negative way I was referring to. But there's several things that could have. And of course, at Tim Lumberjack, which maybe think of LUMBY for some reason. Lumpy.

[Don]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So, yes, it was during the Cold War. Goon back in. Just to clarify, I'm just a 91B wheeled vehicle mechanic, but have had a great, phenomenal time. My career working with Green Berets and now as a ranger. Hell yeah.

[Don]

Hell yeah, brother. Thank you, Goon. Wheels got to turn.

[Tyler]

That's right. They ain't getting to the. They ain't right into the objective without you, brother.

[Don]

And you ain't getting any very many team guys that can fix that.

[Tyler]

I mean, sometimes. Sometimes, sometimes.

[Don]

Especially in 20th grade.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's right. Let's. What? Oh, gosh. The. I'm gonna head up over the mountain. Over the mountain. Oh, it's.

[Brent]

This is. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Hard right off the bat. Right off the bat. Right off the Bat. You know what you're in for. No need for a soft. Work up to it. Ozzy's like, you know, I'm just gonna hit him in the face right off the bat with these cords. Seth, I think Delta Force C Squadron, Uncle Stinky should get a shout out. What a great guy that. That was for you, Uncle St. Oh, there's a good question from Jackie boy. What's your favorite Tires episode? Usually I have favorite episodes when I start, like, re watching things over and over and tires. I will go re. Watch tires and I'll. I don't have a favorite episode off the top of my head, but I'll.

[Brent]

I'll.

[Tyler]

I will have a favorite episode. I will. I will tell you that. What else we got? Greg Zabo, Royal rumble cage match, ladder drops to ropes. I'm sure Tyler, if he was listening, would know what that is. Back to the night drive. Gosh, it's a little small night drive. Watch Baywatch. Thanks. I'm open minded, but these things were. Contradictory isn't the right word. Not enough show left to think he goes. Hogan played bass. I. I don't remember in the episode if he said he played bass for the band, but I do know he played regular guitar as well. And. And if you. And. And it's not a far stretch. If you can play regular guitar, you can play bass and use your vice versa. Not. Not. Yeah, you can. Yeah, you can. Guess what I play. Six trig all day long. I can pick up a bit. It's the same. It's the same chord. Same thing. Play bass, but maybe not the other way around. It's a little bit harder than. I'll give you that. It's a little bit harder the other way around.

[Brent]

You master.

[Tyler]

Once you master, there's no open chords and bass.

[Brent]

Yeah, I think. I think you're right. You can play guitar, you can play.

[Tyler]

Bass, but not necessarily as easy.

[Brent]

You have some of the basic fundamentals of hand, eye coordination down.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you.

[Brent]

What? Yeah, I taught him Smoke on the Water. I say I taught him. Oh, three.

[Tyler]

Mark's retired. Don, do you have a current EDC blade? Current EDC blade? Yeah, he said. Let me. Let me check what I got in these pants.

[Drew]

Emerson.

[Tyler]

Emerson. There you go. I mean. All right, that's as current as it gets. That's as current as it gets. What do you got, Magnus? Got it, Emerson. Brotherhood Blade's gonna have something to say about that.

[Brent]

Yeah, we carry Brotherhood Blade.

[Tyler]

The. Let's see what else we got. Oh, W. Devil ZM71C. Brent, mark my bottle to a 10. Oh, lots of. I'll probably forget that, but. But thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for. For supporting our offer on that. Timber. Umber Jacks. I was a hookah maniac. And a. And a holster, I think meant holster. Now I am the real Hawk. I don't know what to say about that. Sometimes reading these random chats or. It's a crapshoot. Every bass is a guitar. But not every guitar is a bass.

[Brent]

That's true. Damn. That's a good point.

[Tyler]

Because every bass. Bass is a guitar. Not every guitar is a bass. Okay.

[Brent]

I think Brent's right. When you don't have to learn chord progressions and chords and scales. I just.

[Tyler]

You.

[Brent]

You're almost a mix of a guitar player and a percussionist.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Anthony James. So thank you so much for. For buying that. That signed bottle. I don't drink bourbon.

[Brent]

War Pigs.

[Tyler]

Love all of your podcasts. Thank you, brother. I really appreciate that. War Pigs. Here we go. I know. It's what automatically came up.

[Brent]

Man.

[Tyler]

The boys on the couch was right. Thunder lips. Rocky 3 came into the ring with four Hot 80s era blonde chicks. Thunder Lips. Ultimate male. That's the ultimate male. Ultimate object of desire. The mountain of molten lust.

[Don]

Yep, I remember that. That was Rocky three, huh?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Rocky three.

[Brent]

I wonder if he googled that or if he memorized that.

[Tyler]

Oh, man, I hope he just knew that. Oh yeah, me too. Oh, w. W. Devil. You're my boy, Tyler.

[Brent]

Yeah, I can't read the screen. I have to rely on Brent to read it.

[Tyler]

Wiley Coyote. If you can't play guitar, you play. Hey, bass players.

[Brent]

I played in bands. Bass players show up and they do what they're told and they're reliable as hell.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Brent]

Drummers are spazzes and crazy people. Guitar players are usually the organizers and the singers are full of ego.

[Tyler]

Talking about Thunder Lips, I believe he's referred to. Yeah, and those four chicks had a thicker bush than the Amazon. Nice one, Thunder Lips. I had no idea what that meant earlier until. Explain now. Funny stuff from Greg's abo. Oh, gosh. You know what? Here's. Speaking of the pendulum swinging, I would love to see like a. A resurrection of rock.

[Drew]

100%.

[Tyler]

Would you go as far, like, considering the popularity of rock from the 70s, 80s, like even 90s compared to that. Are you mad at me? If I told you rock is dead, I would say. Or has. Or has. Or has a. Has a very light heartbeat.

[Brent]

You just. The Daytona rockville and Daytona just broke records for. I mean, they're able to have these Danny Wimmer shows that have millions of people that go to them for four days straight.

[Drew]

So what, they got better advertising now?

[Brent]

I know, but it's just showing to show you it's not dead.

[Tyler]

I gotta think of like, you know, just a devil's advocate to that kind of thing. Like, it's limping. It's. We're rock isn't like, the amount of bands that could sell out a stadium tour back then was. Was a longer list today. Metallica could sell out a stadium. But, like, you're gonna have to give me someone else. I can sell out a stadium. A bunch of old guys. A bunch of old guys can still sell out stadiums. No, I mean, so it'd be filled with a bunch of old guys. Yeah. And it's filled. So like. So here's my. My. Like my counter to that, Rockville. Although, gosh, it had a lot of people at it. It's still. It's. It's a single event. It's not stadium tours. Does that. You think that helps my. My argument or. Or not?

[Brent]

I just don't think you're assessing it because. Right. Because, I mean, I'm friends with the host from Spirit Talk podcast.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

He's the head of security for Shinedown.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

They sat. They're on tour all the time, selling outside.

[Tyler]

I love it.

[Brent]

I guess.

[Tyler]

I mean, I want it. Like, that's what I mean, don't we. That's what I want the answer to.

[Don]

Be as a genre or a style. I think it may be evolving a little bit. I mean, it's not what it was. The same.

[Tyler]

The same music. Why learn an instrument? You ever heard of Chicks? I know one song.

[Brent]

Baby if I woe you by the end of that.

[Tyler]

Well, I think there's a lot of.

[Drew]

Talented people out there playing video games, and they're not coming out. They don't know what they got. Yeah, I think there's a lot of that going on.

[Tyler]

Yeah, maybe. All right, let me pose it a different way then. Maybe it's not that rock is dead. Maybe it's just the rise of pop and hip hop is so much larger than it was. It. It. It makes rock look less because they are so much larger.

[Don]

I mean, there's so many avenues for people to produce their own music and stuff like that. I mean, there's. There's so much out there that we don't even mainstream doesn't even know about.

[Tyler]

That was cool.

[Don]

That could have something to do with Noah's cool.

[Brent]

Seeing Gojira play the opening ceremony for the Olympics. You see that?

[Don]

Hey, it.

[Tyler]

No, I pulled it up just the other day. The super bowl hasn't had a. A rock band since. It's in years. Just years. I'm like Heartbreakers. Like it's. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. I gotta look it up. And then they've had Coldplay. They had. They had Tom Petty. When was Creed. I gotta look up.

[Brent]

That's when. But the guy flew through the air.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Like the last five or six Super Bowls have all been.

[Brent]

Yeah. Garbage.

[Tyler]

Have all been garbage. Like they really have.

[Brent]

There's a competition going there been a couple that like, why has Metallica not played the Super Bowl?

[Tyler]

There's a. Gosh. There's a good question. Goon back in. Good night, boys. Gotta go take care of some business with the lovely lady.

[Brent]

All right.

[Tyler]

Get out of here. Thanks, brother. Spring Break 1987 Gnr Paradise City. Just saying. Oh, gosh. I could. I could only imagine that energy. Brett. Hopless bass players don't get laid. Proven. Proven. That's scientific.

[Brent]

No, I think they gotta make their way to the singer. So.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's. I'm sure there's a highway.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

But there's an always guitar player right before the city. There's enough to go around. Yeah. J Dog. Pop music is super gay these days.

[Brent]

Hey, have you seen the movie Rockstar with Mark Wahlberg?

[Tyler]

I. I haven't. I know what mov you're talking about too.

[Brent]

Zack Wild's in it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. Soundcloud has changed the game. Yeah, there's something said about that. W. Devil. This one's for you, Drew. Don't beat yourself up, Drew. The technical issues only add to the authenticity of the show.

[Drew]

That's right.

[Tyler]

That's a half joke. But you know what? What? That's actually. That's. There's a lot of truth to that.

[Don]

There's one dude pointing out the fleas.

[Tyler]

A bass player that. Oh, there's. It's a one off. There's always a one off. But. But if.

[Brent]

But there.

[Tyler]

Yeah, please. A bass player. But hey, there's. There's a lot of people love music in this room. Take Flea out. Take Flea out. Name another name another very popular five.

[Brent]

After we end this. No, I wouldn't say Cliff Burton.

[Tyler]

Jason New said old. Guess what? Old and isn't even the bass player Metallica anymore. Robert Cheerio.

[Brent]

Metallica has had Cliff Burton, Jason Newstead, Robert Cheerio.

[Tyler]

The three.

[Brent]

Rex Brown from Pantax. I think it's because he's in pan.

[Tyler]

But you know what? You're. You're not making a case for bass players. You're making a case for Metallica. Is. Yeah. Yeah. Is. Is what you're making.

[Brent]

Come on, come on, come on. Help me think of bass players. Bass players. Just basically, I'm looking for that maker. That maker.

[Tyler]

Break after flee. I'm done.

[Drew]

Chat says Chris from Nirvana.

[Brent]

What?

[Tyler]

I don't even know who the bass player from Nirvana. I hate to say. I know.

[Don]

Somebody said nikki Six, if you have to.

[Tyler]

If you have to go all the way back to Rush today. My bass player. That proves a point. Okay.

[Brent]

Nikki six from. But not because of talent, but because of his Persona in the band Motley Crue.

[Tyler]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Brent]

He's actually known to be a bad bass player.

[Tyler]

Yeah. That guy Kyle said Korn bassist. You're proven my point.

[Don]

You don't know his name.

[Tyler]

You don't know his name. But yeah, I could. You can tell. You can tell me the lead singer's name.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

So it's not. It's. It's not the same anyway.

[Brent]

All right, guys.

[Tyler]

There we go. Another one down. Not. Wasn't. Wasn't the most fun podcast to do because, man, it really. Ozzy and Hulk just have to say it again. It just sucks.

[Brent]

It's okay. And I won't say this about them. Those deaths hurt, but we didn't personally know them, so we were able to do the memorial part in our brain way faster than grieving like a friend. Some of the extra. You obviously wouldn't go on a podcast the next day and be like, yeah, they're awesome. You know, so it was nice. But losing Ozzy was like. That was huge. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Because it.

[Brent]

You. They were so big in your upbringing.

[Tyler]

That's right. Both of them so big. I. I remember in my bedroom turning on my alarm clock radio and turn it to 101.1 after I was supposed to be in bed just so I can listen, like, to the rock top 10. That happened, like, at 11, when I should be sleeping. Yeah. And listening to no more tears and couldn't wait for no more tears to come to come back on. Like. Like, even he was from 70s to 80s, like, and this is, you know, deep in the 90s, and he's still affecting me. Yeah. You know, as. As a. As a young man. It's crazy, man.

[Brent]

Godfather, Rock and roll. I'd say the Godfather of Wrestling. Gone in a few days.

[Tyler]

Yeah. For sure.

[Brent]

All right, guys.

[Tyler]

Go ahead, brother.

[Brent]

That's it. Go ahead, brother. Yeah, we're saying brother now. Thank you guys for showing up for another Thursday night squadcast for the boys. We'll see you next week. Next Thursday.

[Tyler]

Drew, cut the feed before they watched me.