Squadcast (Live) 10/09/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast – Squadcast (Live) 10/09/2025

Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Tyler, Mike, Jimmy
Main Theme: Frontline Police and Military Real Talk—Unpacking Hard Truths, Police Accountability, and Viral Law Enforcement Clips

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Overview

This Squadcast episode delivers the “all truth” hallmark of The Antihero Podcast: candid, gritty, sometimes darkly humorous, and often unfiltered discussions among former cops, combat vets, and outspoken personalities. The squad takes on recent viral videos of police incidents, debates law enforcement use of force, criticizes both police administration and social media “cop culture,” and dives into contemporary military meme-drama. The episode’s backbone is clear-eyed, sometimes searing critique—nothing is off-limits, from “bad shoot” breakdowns to the military’s love-hate relationship with TikTok, fat National Guard memes, and conspiracy-tinged takes on government events. Expect lively arguments, strong opinions, tough love, and some practical advice for both cops and the public.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recent Police Shooting Breakdown

(First major segment: [03:20–22:00]; revisited at [37:32–46:42])

• Video Deconstruction: In-depth analysis of a recent, highly disturbing Charlotte County, FL police shooting. The squad watches the bodycam, highlighting the use of force escalation and deeply criticizing the cop’s actions.

  • "This entire video is what not to do. As a cop...the only thing saving this guy is that the victim is white because the country would be burning right now." – Mike [03:49]
  • "That is one of the worst police videos I've ever seen." – Mike [06:09]
  • “If that guy was black, this was—this—“ – Mike [06:59]
  • The hosts stress that color isn’t the issue: “It doesn’t matter. The skin color doesn’t matter. That is the worst shooting ever.” – Mike [07:51]

• Training, Accountability, and Police Culture:

  • Sympathetic reflexes, lack of proper escalation, and untrained officers are outlined as leading to such tragic outcomes.
  • Host backgrounds allow for honest appraisals—no bootlicking, and overt condemnation for officers who abuse authority.
  • “That dude belongs under the jail.” – Mike [15:05]
  • Mike shares on-the-job insights ("My last two years was spent in a crime center where I'd be watching [bodycams] live." [16:07])

• Systemic Barriers:

  • Discussion on how public perception, legal processes, and agency stonewalling affect the release and investigation of bodycam footage.

2. Cop Work and Public Misperceptions

[18:08, 21:26, 45:29]

• The squad responds to frequent accusations from online “cop attackers” and cop supporters alike, clarifying what real-life patrol is versus what makes headlines or social media.

• Dispels myths about bias in policing; advocates for treating every call as a fresh investigation, regardless of suspect history.

  • “Police respond to an incident, we shouldn’t take into account...I should treat you innocent until proven guilty every single time I make contact with you.” – Mike [41:31]
  • “The judicial system...should know the background and they have the time to study the background.” – Mike [41:31]
  • “...the more light we shed on this subject, the better we can understand the cops—and we can hold them accountable.” – Jimmy [45:39]

3. Viral Policing Videos – “Gas Pump Gun Call” & Others

[22:40–30:00, 87:44+]

• "Gas Pump Gun" Mix-up:

  • Clip recap: Cop draws on a man at the pump, thinking he’s waving a gun, not a nozzle.
  • Tyler and Mike explain how radio call-ins, self-initiated stops, and “Karen” reports often warp police approaches—revealing both empathy for responding officers and expectations for post-stop behavior.
  • “As soon as he realized...the cop, that that was the gas pump—there is no crime. There’s not even a probable cause to pat him down.” – Mike [27:07]

• Motorcycle Chase/Pit Maneuver:

  • Reaction to a TikTok influencer being run over while streaming a police chase:
    • “That guy, he got exactly what deserved. You’re streaming that you’re driving reckless...all cops should chase all motorcycles that run.” – Mike [89:08]
    • Discusses natural selection, recklessness, and line between justifiable and excessive use of force.

• Federal Use of Force in Urban Protests:

  • Look at a video of federal agents manhandling a protestor:
    • “If you think Feds do not absolutely...the Constitution doesn’t apply. They don’t play by your rules. They play by a use-of-force matrix that’s about this big.” – Tyler [117:56]
    • The group agrees: no tolerance for interference with federal agents acting under crisis deployment.

4. Police Reform, “Blue Flu,” and Speaking Out

[60:41–64:57]

• Grassroots vs. Organized Action:

  • The squad shoots down “blue flu” as mass walkout strategy—too dangerous to public safety. Instead, they call for vocal, factual whistleblowing and use of social media to call out corruption.
  • “I can speak up, but you have to speak up within the agency. If enough of you speak up...that’s how the change happens.” – Mike [62:08]

• Legal Protection:

  • Encourages officers to use whistleblower status if their criticisms are factual and for the public interest.

5. Military & Law Enforcement Meme Culture

[48:42, 77:24, 78:38, 81:02]

• Fat National Guard Meme:

  • The viral photo of overweight Texas National Guard “deployed” to Chicago is debated—satire vs. reality, and if such viral images are AI-generated.
  • Deep-dive on “artifacts” in AI images; the need for skepticism ("You cannot tell what you are looking at is real. From news to report, it’s going to be [impossible]." – Mike [83:06])
  • “With a combined weight of one ton, the military police section sergeants...” – Tyler [81:11]

• Operator Cosplay—Tampa PD SWAT Critique:

  • Jimmy and Mike break down “poser” operator police culture: fancy gear is no replacement for actual skill or military experience.
  • “You wear all of these accoutrements of a warrior...You’re not even close to what me and Tyler and Mike did. You are a poser.” – Jimmy [97:03]

6. Conspiratorial Takes—Assassinations and 9/11

[101:44–109:14]

• JFK Killing Theories:
  • The squad watches a narrated Zapruder film segment pushing a “driver did it” narrative—shellfish toxin pellet theory and all. They critique historical and practical plausibility.
  • “...Your brain will see anything like that you’re being narrated to see...” – Mike [104:12]
  • Honest agreement that natural suspicion of the government is healthy, but skepticism should rely on real evidence.

7. Community, Super Chats, and Engagement

[34:41, ongoing throughout; also Patreon/plugs at 76:02+]

• The podcast community is lively—hosts respond to super chats, Discord/YouTube comments, and promote cross-podcast collaborations (Counterculture Inc., Guys on Ground, and others).
• Shoutouts to fans for gifts, music requests, and stories submitted. Noteworthy banter about Texas National Guard, SWAT culture, and shoutouts for upcoming guests/events.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

Breaking Down a “Bad Shoot”

• Mike ([03:49]):
  “This entire video is what not to do. As a cop...the only thing saving this guy is that the victim is white because the country would be burning right now. This is bad. This is a bad video.”

• Tyler ([07:03]):
  “That cop escalated that entire thing. The guy was on his phone at the end.”

• Jimmy ([41:31]):
  “I think there’s a lot of cops out there that abuse their power. They’re absolutely untrained, undisciplined, and they have all the power to take away my constitutional rights or kill me. That said, I like them more than the criminals that are out there.”

On the Stress of Policing/Body Cams

• Mike ([16:07]):
  “My last two years was spent in a crime center where I'd be watching [bodycams] live. I'd be sitting in a room with eight TVs that big watching it live.”

• Tyler ([46:32]):
  “If you don’t have a backstory to a video, the world’s gonna create their own.”

On Police Mechanisms for Reform

• Mike ([62:08]):
  “I can speak up, but you have to speak up within the agency. If enough of you speak up...that’s how the change happens.”

On AI and Meme Culture

• Tyler ([81:11]):
  “With a combined weight of one ton, the military police section sergeants...”

• Mike ([83:06]):
  “You cannot tell what you are looking at is real. From news to report, it’s going to be [impossible].”

On Viral Policing Videos

• Mike ([89:08]):
  “That guy, he got exactly what deserved. You’re streaming that you’re driving reckless...all cops should chase all motorcycles that run.”

On Earned Criticism Within the Ranks

• Mike ([15:05]):
  “That dude belongs under the jail...I can’t even spend that [to joke around].”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Show Start & Tech Issues: [00:00–02:36]
• Charlotte County Shooting Analysis: [03:20–22:00; revisited at 37:32–46:42]
• Viral ‘Gas Pump Gun’ Incident: [22:40–30:00]
• Community, Comments, and Super Chats: Throughout; focused [34:41+]
• “Blue Flu” & Police Whistleblowing: [60:41–64:57]
• Texas National Guard Meme / AI & News Skepticism: [77:24, 78:38, 81:02, 83:06]
• Motorcycle Pit Maneuver Video: [87:44–92:00]
• JFK Assassination Theories: [101:44–109:14]
• Upcoming Live Events / Charity: [113:38–122:16]
• Show Wrap & Community Q&A: [126:00–end]

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Tone and Language

• Unapologetically blunt, blue-collar, and darkly comic—mixing gallows humor, veteran stories, and real-world tactics.
• The hosts occasionally joust and roast each other, keeping the tone lively even during heavy discussions.
• Listeners are made to feel part of the ongoing antihero “squad”—the door’s open for cops, veterans, and supporters (plus the occasional fireman!).

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Conclusion

This episode is emblematic of The Antihero Podcast: tough scrutiny of law enforcement and military culture; honest talk on real scandals, “cop memes,” and reform; fast-moving banter; and audience interaction that highlights cops’, veterans’, and the public’s concerns about abuse, incompetence, and internet-fueled confusion. The hosts’ experience grounds their opinions; no one is above criticism—including themselves. Essential for anyone who wants to understand what the “real world” of policing, as well as its internet myths and meme wars, look (and feel) like from the inside.

Transcript

[Tyler]

Hey, we're here. We're live. We're gonna do the intro. Get right into it, did you?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Florid. Sam.

[Tyler]

Holy guacamole.

[Jimmy]

Holy. Whoa.

[Mike]

We're here. We're here.

[Jimmy]

God damn it.

[Mike]

We're sorry.

[Tyler]

Oh my God.

[Mike]

Yeah. Florida weather.

[Jimmy]

God damn. It's not one thing. It's something else.

[Tyler]

It is. We get here four hours early to run into technical issues five minutes before. Anyways, welcome back to another Thursday night squadcast Thursdays for the boys. We are here and we unfortunately did not heed to Pete Said.

[Jimmy]

It couldn't.

[Tyler]

Have come out of worse timing than after that speech, but got a lot of great videos to break down.

[Mike]

Jesus.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Chunk. Monsters showing up in Chicago.

[Tyler]

I. You know. Yeah, I'm a firm believer. I think it's AI, but we'll get into it. Yeah. Monday show, we're starting at 11 now, not 10. So Monday morning, if you're. If you. When you. When you. When you tune in. We're so stressed out right now. I don't even have my sunglasses.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, dude, where are your sunglasses? Here.

[Mike]

I'll take it from here. We're gonna. We listen to the people. We're here for you guys. We're moving it back from 10 to 11 starting on Monday. Let you guys get an extra hour of sleep. Everybody was saying it's too early. West coast, we know we got, as somebody said we need to buy more viewers, but we're working that. So 11 o' clock Monday, the broadcast for the over caffeinated, underpaid because it's cheaper than therapy. And Thursdays are still for the boys. 8pm Except. Except when it rains too hard, then it's 8:15.

[Jimmy]

We can't do anything about Florida weather.

[Tyler]

We also got some cool plans for the squad cast.

[Mike]

We're gonna end up being here every day. I'm gonna just say it right now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, you've been saying that.

[Mike]

I'm gonna move in. I'm gonna live right here.

[Jimmy]

We're gonna get you a cot. We're gonna get one of those army cots. You know, the ones that can put.

[Mike]

Together a nice ghost bed. I'll get a nice ghost bed mattress.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we're gonna go sped. Yeah, absolutely. I. I need to get one. I actually need to get a ghost.

[Tyler]

They're so comfortable.

[Jimmy]

Do they make comforters?

[Mike]

Yeah, just don't let your mother. I'll pee on it.

[Tyler]

Yeah, comforters. That's a good question. I know they make sheets, pillows because.

[Jimmy]

Because Lily came to me today and was Like, I want a down feather comforter. Like, I want that now. And I'm like, okay. And. And I was like, well, I need to go talk to the guys at Ghost Bed first.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You know I'm a Giants fan, right? Giants are playing Eagles right now.

[Tyler]

Oh, man.

[Jimmy]

Dude, they're going to get hammered.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Hey, let's go. Let's kick it off with a video. Mike, you got a video you want?

[Mike]

Yeah, go. Let's go. Let's go to this murder that's captured on video. Go. That one.

[Tyler]

Oh, wow. That'll get us banned from YouTube.

[Mike]

Yeah, we're done. Go to that one. Not that one murder. That one right there. So I would like to. I'd like to start this out with.

[Tyler]

Go ahead.

[Mike]

Accountability.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

And police need to know how to use force properly. Dominant.

[Tyler]

I don't know. Shirt. You're blending into the wall.

[Mike]

I'll change it. So this is one of our sponsors. So I like to wear shirts.

[Tyler]

He's the best.

[Mike]

Yes, but we are very transparent. This entire video is what not to do. As a cop, this is. And the only thing saving this guy is that the victim is white because the country would be burning right now. This is bad. This is a bad video.

[Tyler]

All right, all right.

[Mike]

So let's hit it.

[Tyler]

Let's see it. You prefaced it pretty good, Mike.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, you did come right down.

[Mike]

That bought us the 101st viewer, the way I described it.

[Tyler]

Tell me.

[Mike]

Tell me.

[Jimmy]

This guy's alcoholic. He's down. Down there. So let's. Let's do it or not. Not do it.

[Tyler]

What are we doing?

[Mike]

We have an echo. Do it or not do it.

[Tyler]

Did you get.

[Mike]

Clean up the lamp? Come on, come on.

[Tyler]

Go back to your. Go back to your apartment. Do it. Do it. Come on.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Tyler]

Oh, come on, come on, come on.

[Mike]

Why are you lasering me?

[Tyler]

Because you were already trying to hit me.

[Mike]

I didn't try to hit you.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're moving up on me. So now I'm bleeding. So now.

[Mike]

Now I'm bleeding and you're doing all three. Ten Central. Go ahead and send me back up.

[Tyler]

Subject tried to attack me.

[Jimmy]

Got him at gunpoint.

[Tyler]

Right now you need to get down on your knees.

[Mike]

I haven't done anything wrong.

[Tyler]

Get on your knees now. I haven't done anything wrong.

[Mike]

Shots fired.

[Tyler]

Shots fired.

[Jimmy]

You can't come at me like that.

[Tyler]

Get back here so I can sit up. So I can help you sit up.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Mike]

Continue that. He begins to baby that guy as he's dying like he killed that, he murdered that guy. And then it's oh, dude, front to back. That. That is, that is one of the worst police videos I've ever seen.

[Jimmy]

Mike, we have had so many people in the comments going like, oh, you guys are bootlickers. Oh, they're cops. Cops do with this stuff all the time. This is the. That we are not. Okay.

[Mike]

He should be in prison the rest of his life. I don't even, I don't even think he had a right to tase him. The taser was.

[Tyler]

No, because the guy, the guy, it clearly. This guy. Clearly. I can't hear myself right now.

[Jimmy]

I can hear you.

[Tyler]

No, I can't hear myself. I can't hear myself.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Tyler]

Oh, there we are. But yeah, I mean it, that if.

[Mike]

That guy was black, this was this.

[Jimmy]

Country that was a hundred percent.

[Tyler]

That guy. That guy literally did nothing to. Although he talked that. I sound like Mike the liberal over here. But that cop escalated that entire thing. The guy was on his phone at the end.

[Mike]

He didn't mean to shoot. So he didn't mean to shoot him the first time. That's. That is, that is a reaction to being at the static range and the first round.

[Jimmy]

So that's a training scar and you're.

[Mike]

Taught to follow up.

[Jimmy]

So that's a training scar.

[Mike]

Well, the, the follow up shots are. The first shot is a sympathetic reaction. I think he's going to grab, he's doing whatever. He pulls a trigger and then the rain beep. The range kicks in and he just. There was no reason to tase that. There was no taser needed.

[Jimmy]

So let me, let me ask you a question because I'm, I'm gonna go down this road with you. You, you said if that was a black guy, the cities would be burning.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

And I agree. Do you think that maybe he was a little bit more cool?

[Mike]

Because here's, here's what I think, here's my honest opinion is I want everybody to take notice in the black community how upset we are with that. And it would be just as bad if that was a black guy. Absolutely happens to be a white guy. But no matter what, it's always Ben Crump. Yeah. It's always like, well it's cuz he's black. This is a complete easy example of how all cops are gonna go attack that dude. Because even though it's a white guy, it doesn't matter. The skin color doesn't matter. That is the worst shooting ever. We don't get a chance to say that when it's a black victim because all the politicians, all the lawyers, all the media jumps in it. And there's no opportunity for us to say how bad something is because they make it bad. But the ones they make bad normally aren't very bad. Your worst ones are like, you know, questionable at best. George Floyd, you have the, the, the.

[Tyler]

Turnpike, the, the Wendy's shooting where he grabbed the Taser and pointed.

[Jimmy]

It was running. The guys that threw the.

[Mike]

You have something that are always a little close. This is like you watched a premeditated murder on video.

[Jimmy]

So let me ask you a question, Mike. What, what rank did you, what rank were you as a cop?

[Mike]

Well, for a while I was a sergeant. Then I got.

[Jimmy]

Okay, so let's assume you were a sergeant, right? So you, you hear shots fired, shots fired. Are you going to respond to that?

[Mike]

Everybody? Yeah, everybody on the.

[Jimmy]

Okay, I, I, I, yeah, no, yeah, you're the sergeant. You show up on the scene, you.

[Mike]

Review the, well, you're not going to see, here's the thing. You're not going to see the video immediately. So it's going to be within 20 minutes, somebody's going to start pulling up.

[Jimmy]

The body cam, but not going to be able to say the guy went for, he didn't. Made a furtive movement.

[Mike]

Well, he's not going to be, he already said it. He said it himself. So his story is going to be that he felt danger, felt threat. This is what Domizo tackles all the time. Untrained on cops out on the street, even Steve. Steve, our favorite fan in our other shows about talking about cops. This is the video that makes all those people's argument valid. So when you're the cop, attackers are going off the rails. And usually they're going off the rails about one that's very questionable and could go either way. That's the one that they need to be going off the rails about. That is the worst one. Yeah, that's untrained, unprepared. No, the mentality is not there. And he murdered a dude for no reason.

[Tyler]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, once you're done, let's do it again. Let's watch it again.

[Jimmy]

Jesus Christ.

[Tyler]

No, you, I wanted you to get what you were saying.

[Mike]

Something.

[Tyler]

I didn't mean to cut you off.

[Jimmy]

No, no, no, no, no. I, I, I just, like, I, I could see, I could see the escalation in the guy's voice. He's not, he's not mitigating his own emotions.

[Mike]

I want you to hear how he says, get on your knees when it's rolling, get on your knee. Like, it's almost like he's. It's a weird. The whole thing is weird. You need to get on your knees is like, how he kind of says it. Like, I don't know where it's at. I didn't even get that far. It's so bad that I'm just like, I.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, we kind of need to look at that agency.

[Tyler]

What agency was it?

[Jimmy]

I don't know. He doesn't know.

[Mike]

I didn't look. I mean, maybe it's that fresh. Watch. Yeah, just come out. Watch it again.

[Jimmy]

Send it. Send it again. Send it. All right, tell me. I tell you what. If you guys want it.

[Mike]

Across your T, go ahead and cross your T's and dot your eyes and let's.

[Jimmy]

Let's do.

[Mike]

It.

[Jimmy]

Let's do what?

[Mike]

Do whatever you need to do.

[Jimmy]

Because I'm tired of you showing up in my house. I haven't been to your house. This guy's a alcoholic. He's down there at the golf course. Okay, let's do it or not do it.

[Tyler]

What are we going to do? What, are you threatening? Do it or not do it. Are you threatening?

[Mike]

Do it or not do it. Did you get to clean up the lamp? Come on. Come on.

[Tyler]

Go back to your. Go back to your apartment.

[Mike]

Do it.

[Tyler]

Do it. Come on.

[Mike]

Come on. Oh, come on.

[Tyler]

Come on.

[Jimmy]

Come on.

[Mike]

Why are you lasering me?

[Tyler]

Because you were already trying to hit me.

[Mike]

I didn't try to hit you.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're moving up on me. So now I'm bleeding. So now.

[Jimmy]

Now I'm bleeding and you're doing all three.

[Mike]

Ten Central. Go ahead and send me back up.

[Tyler]

Subject tried to attack me.

[Jimmy]

Got him at gunpoint.

[Tyler]

Right now you need to get down on your knees.

[Mike]

I haven't done anything wrong.

[Tyler]

Get on your knees now. I haven't done anything wrong.

[Mike]

Shots fired.

[Tyler]

Shots fired.

[Jimmy]

All right, so Charlotte County, Florida.

[Mike]

I remember now. I remember people sending me, telling me, you need to look into the Charlotte county shooting and when it happened, but I had a chance.

[Jimmy]

JH guy from 1st and 2nd Ranger bat that was in the chat the other night. You need to get with this man. Anyway, yeah, he's in. He's in the chat. So my first question is on what range did you get taught to hold your weapon like this?

[Mike]

The whole thing is.

[Tyler]

I think that man. Yeah, the whole thing. So first off, it looks like that this guy is out just being nosy. Being nosy and being Drunk. Okay. There's no investigation. He's impeding on that. I can see clearly. I'm not. We're just, we're YouTube commenting right now. Right. I don't know the ins and outs, but it appears to me that there was no investigation that this guy was impeding on. It just became pop. Pissed off police. Right. So then you know what? He puts his down and goes, all.

[Mike]

Right, where have you ever seen the. Lay down the notebook move?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Well, that's put on the ground. Yeah, that's a, that's, that's a wild move.

[Tyler]

Those are fighting. Those are fighting moves. But I respect that. I've been in situations where you're. Your day sucks and somebody's okay, you know what? Put the thing down. What you got to say now I'm okay with that. But you pull out the Taser. Now you're engaging, you're saying let's go. And then you pull out a weapon like. Or a tool. Is it? So like you said, the Taser wasn't even.

[Mike]

But here's the thing. And then the Taser application wasn't even proper. You know, if any of your training is. Is in your head at all at that point, you know the taser is not effective from two feet away. The probes are too close. It's only going to spread about 6 to 8 inches and it's going to be pain compliance at best, which he sweeps it off. Then he fires a second one.

[Tyler]

What taser was using.

[Mike]

That's the, the. I believe it's a 7. The X7.

[Tyler]

The one where you toggle like this.

[Mike]

No, that was the one that. It's the. The one before this 10. It's the one that. Because you heard the pull, the second firing cycle is faster. That's the one I got.

[Tyler]

Which one do you toggle like this?

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

It taught a bunch of people to. Everybody holds her table.

[Mike]

That might be because you.

[Tyler]

Well, but then he's totally in the OODA loop if he's holding his fucking gun like this. Because like you said, Jimmy, in no way, shape or form has anybody taught you to fucking gangster like this.

[Jimmy]

You should be two hands on the weapon. Down, down the sights, whatever optics or iron sights you got. Most cops that I've seen are carrying red dots.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Nowadays.

[Jimmy]

So he's not even looking down the.

[Mike]

Site from the rip. Everything about that is wrong. The way he talks about even like. And I'm. I'm pretty. I, I cuss when I'm on scene. But hey, mother at first you think that's the bad guy saying, oh, I saw him. The bad guy. Yeah, yeah, the dead guy. When the cops. It's a good guy, bad guy. Sorry, it's my, my turn. But the, the, the murder victim that gets shot, you would think that's him saying, all right, come on, that's the cop. Like the whole thing from front to back is bananas. He's the only way I can say it, that is, that is. That dude belongs under the jail. Yeah. I mean there's no way. I can't even. As liberals, I get sometimes in argument. I can't even spend that to joke around.

[Jimmy]

So let me ask you a question. At what point do you get to see the body cam?

[Mike]

I mean, you have it like a supervisor immediately. Oh yeah, yeah. I could be driving to the scene.

[Jimmy]

And be like, so, so let's, let's, let's do a hypothetical.

[Tyler]

Because nowadays, nowadays they have the technology is your supervisor you can tap.

[Mike]

And the real crime, crime center is watching live.

[Jimmy]

So that's, so that's what was happen into us in Iraq with Tacticom. So as a sniper, I was going out in sector five, people could plug in to what I was looking through, looking at, through the sniper scope, if they had, or through the RWS or whatever it was.

[Mike]

They have a crime center, real time crime. Like my last two years was spent in a crime center where I'd be watching that live.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

I'd be sitting in a room with eight TVs that big watching it live.

[Jimmy]

And watching Kill TV.

[Mike]

But as far I know where you're going with the, the watching it, it's like watching based on investigation and everything that's going to go into that. You're not going to even question whether or not at that time if he was justified. Okay. You're going to work it as a homicide scene, secure it, lock it down, statement, separate everybody, tape it off, witnesses. At no point at all are you going to start to talk to that cop at the scene.

[Jimmy]

Do you understand anything? You don't understand why I'm asking that question? Because there's a lot of people that don't know.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

How that works. Yes.

[Mike]

It takes days and days. You have some, every state's different. But in Florida you have, you know, three or four days to give a statement. You got time for the lawyer first.

[Jimmy]

48 to 72 hours. People, people are like, oh, the cops are looking out for their own.

[Mike]

And it's like, that's probably why this happened a while ago. And they had to, you Know one they have to get the investigation. Two they. This agency did not want this coming. I mean this is one you hold on to the last possible minute for public relations to just hope it doesn't you know it's going too so. And I've seen there's been a lot of them lately. Where I saw a guy, the victim, the dude was black that there was a gun laying in the street and the guy backed up. The black guy didn't have a weapon but he continuously advised advanced at the cop. It was Orange county.

[Jimmy]

No, that was O.C.

[Mike]

Was that. Yeah.

[Tyler]

When they were in the parking lot.

[Mike]

No, that's another one. That was fine. That was fine. There was another one in the street where Anyway unarmed but aggressive. This guy is not a threat to that cop or he hasn't established enough to me even pull the taser out in that situation you gotta be like get back dude. Like going now. Nothing says you have to go hands on but he had not even to my opinion reached taser.

[Jimmy]

I I don't think that I mean like I'm not a cop. Mike.

[Tyler]

I'm surprised you didn't say he should have just go up the cops just went to his car. I'm dead serious. That guy, he told the guy go inside. If you're gonna tell a guy to go inside and then you're gonna shoot him a minute and I got later.

[Mike]

That was our argument. My. I told the guy to go inside too and then I rest. You didn't shoot him. But I rested him and it might as well they charged me with fucking. Well let me group three fucking use of force.

[Jimmy]

Can I ask you a question? So I'm. I'm the not cop in this room. I have to come at this from that direction. You're in the middle of an investigation. Let's assume that that cop was in the middle of investigation.

[Mike]

He was. There was definitely something.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

Obviously.

[Jimmy]

So this guy comes up he's. He's going hey, let's go, let's go. Let's get this over with. I I'm. This guy's an alcohol. I'm concerned right. Can I go? Hey, can I detain that guy? Go. Look dude, I'm gonna put you in the back of the cruiser.

[Tyler]

Well hold on.

[Mike]

I think you're okay. He gave so he's. I'm investigating here. Yeah. That mere presence is enough to divert the attention from the off so there is a big the beginning of some type of now you wanted the attention. I'm now giving it to you.

[Tyler]

Oh I'm all for it. Usually you're the one saying, no, that dude.

[Mike]

I would take that dude to jail. Like, I would tell him two more times to give. I'm not gonna shoot him or tase him. Yeah, it may lead to tasing, but I think you have to give him the opportunity, like, go. He just sets the notebook down and tasers out and he pops them. It's like, no, no, no, no. That thing's garbage. Don't, don't.

[Jimmy]

No, you guys don't use these.

[Mike]

No, nobody should use that.

[Tyler]

I'll. I've only used it to wake up hobos.

[Mike]

Yes. That is the most useless weapon.

[Tyler]

You go like this.

[Mike]

You don't hit anybody.

[Tyler]

Poke them because get up.

[Mike]

The point of law enforcement is custody. Hitting somebody with a stick does not help you get here.

[Tyler]

And here's my take on the asp. Right.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Okay. So I'm curious, man to man, whether I, I. This is how I live my life, man to man, right? Whether I have a badge or not. I assume that you don't care.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

You might respect the badge, but if you're already mouthing off and saying, I'm not going to listen to you, that means you don't respect the badge.

[Jimmy]

Check.

[Tyler]

Right. So now me and you are going to tango, right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we're going at it.

[Tyler]

So when I. When it's mutual. Right now.

[Jimmy]

Mutual fray.

[Tyler]

Yes. That's a good word. And I introduce a weapon. An ass. Right. And you get that ass from me. I deserve to have that. That's the way I look at. I'm introducing a weapon and I'm gonna hit you with it. Let's say it doesn't work and I'm.

[Mike]

Retarded and never gonna. You get it, I believe to kill you. Yeah.

[Tyler]

What if you go to hit me with it? So man code says that you can.

[Jimmy]

This is. This is where I'm going. You're making my point for me. Number one, if. If you're a police officer and you're telling me, hey, we don't need to go to the asp, then you better know how to fucking go hands on. And if you. And if you pull something else out, you have escalated the use of force. I do know something about use of force because we had eof escalation of force in Iraq and in Afghanistan. We had to know how to do that, just like cops. So if you are going to. And here's what I have seen. This is anecdotal. I have seen a lot more females escalate use of force than I have males.

[Tyler]

Well, yeah, because they're highlighted.

[Mike]

They're highlighted more. But. Yes. And those will. Yes.

[Jimmy]

And fat, out of shape males.

[Mike]

And we can't see that guy.

[Jimmy]

And we can't.

[Mike]

We can't see. But his. But his demeanor, the words. And I will take some response. I've taken it with Carl Anderson. And am I. If I could do that IA over again, would I have talked a little different my to motion. Would I have talked probably differently? Yes. I. I having hindsight in the moment, I was loud, I was aggressive, but I had a car fleeing from me. There was different circumstances. But in that situation, maybe that's what he needed to do was escalate his voice.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

Maybe the should have came before he pulled the gun out. Like, hey, go back to your house. I don't have a problem with a cop saying that to somebody to overcome. I mean, he's already like, obviously he looks like he's drinking. Yeah. So it's like. It's okay for me to you to escalate your voice. That guy deserved service. A pushback, escort back, a move back. But that's where a trained cop that has some type of ground fighting training or whatever. We're done talking about jiu jitsu. I know.

[Tyler]

No, no. We got to move on to the next video.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my bad, dude. I could go on this on.

[Mike]

There's another good one, though, because it almost ends the same way. Go right back in the in to the next video in the Go Instagram. Right there. Yeah, let's hit that one. That's on now. Here is another.

[Tyler]

All right, let us know where we're muted. We got to mute the mic so we don't have an echo. Bradley figured that out.

[Mike]

Now here is. This is another overreach.

[Jimmy]

Let me just play that real quick. Sorry.

[Tyler]

Oh, we're gonna run through the ad so you guys don't have to listen to it.

[Mike]

By the way, the Giants are beating the Eagle seven, three. That's big news.

[Jimmy]

Go, go, Giants.

[Tyler]

Poor Philly. All right, let's do.

[Jimmy]

What are you doing?

[Tyler]

I'm filling up gas can.

[Jimmy]

You understand? You're holding it like this, like it's a pistol, right? That's a very special. I only have a weapons incident. Circle K, 7th of Monroe. What do you have in your hand? Show me your hands.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Stay in the car. Okay. Turn around, Place your hands behind your back. What are you doing?

[Tyler]

I'm filling up gas can.

[Jimmy]

You understand? You're holding it like this, like it's a pistol. Right. No, I was showing her the church. Cut the pump on. Okay. But that's not what it looks like to the motor.

[Mike]

Okay, so here is, here is. It doesn't really escalate from there, but here's what I want. That dude was waving the gas handle to the attendant inside to say, hey, it's not on. Can you turn it on? And he gets a gun pointed at him.

[Tyler]

Okay, now let's hear. Now hold on. We're, we're gonna, now we're going to crucify these cops?

[Mike]

I'm not going to crucify them, but go ahead. I'll let you go, but I'll show you where it turned for me.

[Tyler]

So Jimmy, you're, you're, you're, you're driving, you're a Karen, right? You, you're just. Everybody's world is your business. You're driving by the gas station and you see this gentleman. He's black with tattoos and a big beard, right? So he's. Oh, he's not black.

[Jimmy]

He's olive.

[Tyler]

Scary.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Right. And he's pointing like this at the, at the, like this. Right? So, okay, now one, two or maybe even three of the Karens driving by, call it in. Right? Guy pointing a gun at a gas station, right?

[Mike]

I'm still good.

[Tyler]

You show up.

[Jimmy]

I, I, I, I'm going be honest with you. The first thing that's going through my mind is that is he pointing a gun at the gas station or is he holding the gun shaped pump?

[Tyler]

No, hold on, hold on. Let me go, let me go. That's not first off as a cop. That is not. That might, if you're a genius and.

[Jimmy]

You'Re like, hm, maybe, but okay, I mean, fair enough.

[Tyler]

I'm responding to a scene where a guy is seen pointing a gun. Well, I can't even get it out here. I can't even get it out.

[Jimmy]

Here's the thing is that like, you're right, I'm wrong. You are getting what you're getting over the radio.

[Tyler]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

That's, that's, you've literally played telephone. Yeah. So what you know is weapon, gas station. That makes fucking sense to me. Right? Because like who. People stick up gas stations all the time. Bad things happen at gas station. Yeah, I could totally see where you're coming.

[Tyler]

So I'm responding, I'm responding right now. Could I have seen the thing in his hand and been like, maybe, but it sounds so crazy that I'm just, I can't assume, I can't assume that that's the Gun, walk up, get blasted. And then me and Mike sitting here going, bro, you're responding to a call with a gun and you walk up all cool and then you get dead, bro. Well show up. He shows up, he points a gun at him. At that point, at that point, me as a cop, I'd go, wait, it was the fucking. You were pointing at the register to show them that you were on the pump. Like. All right, hold on a minute. Your backups arriving now. All right, hold on, dude, keep your hands up. I'm gonna pat you down for weapons. I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna pat you down for weapons. I'm not gonna search you and pat you down for weapons. I'm going to verify that you don't have any weapons on you. And while the. While my back and I'm probably going to pull you away from the car because there's somebody in the car clearly. And if you did have a gun, you could have dumped it in that car. Right? So now we're going to make sure, however long that takes, that there's no gun in play.

[Jimmy]

So now you're in an investigation.

[Tyler]

No, no, no. It's just making sure there's no gun there. Okay, Once we do that, we're laughing and we're making fun of the Karen.

[Jimmy]

That probably called it in just to.

[Mike]

Twist it a little bit. He, the cop observed it on his driving by. So the call I get, he saw it. He caught it out of the corner of his eye.

[Tyler]

Oh yeah.

[Mike]

This wasn't a call self initiated.

[Tyler]

Oh, man, you'd be like, dude, you're gonna sound stupid.

[Mike]

Let me tell you. I was trying. You told me to shut up, that you couldn't get a word in. So I let you tell the whole story. I listened. If you saw, I sat like this away from the microphone and listened. So I'm good. I agree with you up until. When he goes, oh, well, your point? As soon as he realized in his brain, the cop, that that was the gas pump. There is no crime. There's not even a probable cause to pat him down.

[Tyler]

But what if he had a gun and then he dropped it?

[Mike]

Who cares? No, you saw the gas pump. He's still holding in his hand. You drove by. You're like, man, I think he's got a gun.

[Jimmy]

Litigiously. He's right.

[Mike]

I pull in, I see that it's a gas pump. Get up. I go, oh, dude, I'm a like, hey, man, sorry. It goes on where he wants his id, he wants to get his Identity.

[Tyler]

And the dude's like, no, yeah, you're right.

[Mike]

He's like, I'm not giving you my I.D. like, I'm not doing it. And then the cop goes in the gas station if you play the video longer, and he starts, like, nervously joking with the clerk.

[Jimmy]

Like, oh, man.

[Mike]

You know, he knows he's getting a complaint or it's going to be viral. So he starts to go, oh, man, that was crazy. I thought it was a gun. And black lady's like, no, he was pointing. I didn't turn the gas pump on. He was waving it at me. Like, she even dispels. She saw it as a gas pump. So up until where he goes, oh, that's the gas pump. And then you see him kind of go, all right, well, turn around. Like, that would have been the joking moment. Like, damn, bro. Yeah, I thought you had a gun, man.

[Tyler]

Like, we're cool.

[Mike]

Like, that would have been, like. I mean, backup moment.

[Jimmy]

Okay, but I'll let you.

[Mike]

I'll let you finish.

[Tyler]

Hey, you know, somebody called it in.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, we. We got to go through this. It's actually really fun, and I think it's really entertaining when you're like, whoa, hold on a second. This. This. Could you. Could I. So I've actually worked at a gas station. I was a manager at racetrack when I first got out of the army. I've had crazy happen at racetrack. I had guy.

[Tyler]

Racetrack is a prominent gas station here in Florida.

[Jimmy]

I. So I worked at racetrack as a shift manager when I was going to college, and I had somebody drive into our parking lot, dump somebody who was Odin into the bushes that was technically not our property, and then drive away. And I had to call the cops. And, like, I had to deal with this guy. This guy's Odin. And I had a. A youngster with me is like, jimmy, aren't you gonna do something? I'm like, what am I. Jesus Christ? I'm gonna raise him up. He's dead.

[Tyler]

Oh, he died?

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, he died right there. It was on 66th street in St. Petersburg.

[Tyler]

Imagine dying in a race. Racetrack parking.

[Jimmy]

So when. When I hear this stuff at a gas station, I'm like, I have seen some wild. By the way, racetrack gives complimentary coffee and donuts to cops.

[Tyler]

We know.

[Mike]

I actually had a guy I chased around town that was once a prominent owner of an air conditioning company, the biggest one in the county. Smoked it away with methamphetamine and died in a racetrack bathroom. 8th street in US 1 and Vera beach, full circle. One point. He was, like, jacked on steroids. Massive dude. Had a Range Rover. I remember going to disturbances with him and his old lady, started smoking meth, lost the company, lost everything, came homeless, and he ended it all in a gas station bathroom.

[Tyler]

Trend not only makes you gay, it makes you smoke, but it also makes you smoke meth and die.

[Mike]

Die.

[Tyler]

Yeah. All right. So, yeah, back to Jimmy's point. It's very important that we have these dialogues because a lot of people, they don't know how cop work works. And we're here to call out the most ridiculous we've ever seen. We're here to justify some things and. And the way we think. And yes, there. There's a lot of. There's gonna be a lot of videos that.

[Jimmy]

There's gonna be a lot of cops that don't like the fact that you're doing this, by the way.

[Tyler]

I think most of them would.

[Mike]

I got a really interesting comment on YouTube that I kind of went back and forth. We talked about helping the agent last on Monday, the Chicago call.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And I've got some new development on that as well.

[Tyler]

Wait for Monday.

[Mike]

Okay. But somebody asked me, they baited me and said, what if the ATF was going door to door under a Biden administration?

[Jimmy]

What if aliens come grabbing guns?

[Mike]

And I said, well, I would go. So then they said, oh, so you're in favor of supporting the government to take away the Second Amendment, right? I said, very, very, very good. Smooth trick. I have to protect everybody from being murdered. Even as a cop, I could. This guy could shoot at the cops on Monday, bond out Tuesday and be a victim on Wednesday. And I have to go save that guy or help that guy if I get called there. So, yes, I would not agree with the ATF grabbing guns. I believe in the Second Amendment. But if the ATF agents, in the course of that, ended up in a situation where they're surrounded, about to get killed, as a cop, I have to go. Even disagreeing with them, I have to go save them or help them.

[Tyler]

That's what you get for getting in the comments.

[Mike]

Yeah, so they. They kind of gave me that, like, twisted story and then hit me with the. Oh, so you're against the Constitution. You'd be a gun grabber. I was like, no, I wouldn't help enforce that law, but if they called for backup, as a fellow cop or a citizen, I would go protect them.

[Tyler]

That's like saying to the Secret Service, dec. Detail of Biden. You support Biden? Like, no, I guarantee you his whole entire Secret Service detail hated his guts, but it's their job.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, you know the second amendment argument. I, I would love to have that argument because I've got, I know people that have tannerite stuffed in the garden, gnomes with BBs that are waiting for the ATF to show up, do that.

[Tyler]

Not local cops. Right? They let them go.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I show up and I'm like, hey, can I see your ring camera?

[Jimmy]

But my, my, my whole thing is anybody that's listening. It took almost a hundred thousand of U.S. infantrymen and soldiers and marines to secure Baghdad. And Tyler, you and I were both there at the same time. Could we do it? Were we able to secure Baghdad?

[Tyler]

No.

[Jimmy]

No, we were not. Your local cops are not going to be able to take your guns. It's, it's. They're gonna be out of cops. Oh, yeah, yeah. So that argument is speech. It's specious. All right.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

That's beautiful.

[Tyler]

Act out.

[Mike]

That was beautiful. That was good.

[Jimmy]

It's almost like a recording. I blacked out. What happened?

[Tyler]

So what we have. Oh, we have a super chat.

[Jimmy]

We do. Yeah. From West Summers for $20. Tall time money Mike and Jimbo Slice. Sup dudes? Tyler, we spoke recently on the Gram. Appreciate your response. Closing song Scarlet by Periphery Periphery Periphery.

[Tyler]

Periphery Periphery Close enough, Scarlet.

[Jimmy]

Close enough, brother.

[Tyler]

How do you spell pillifery?

[Jimmy]

P E R I P H E R Y. How copy over.

[Mike]

They want a camera on my legs. They're getting bigger. Yeah, I'm telling you, I get bigger.

[Tyler]

Well, that's not a hard trainer from where they were.

[Mike]

Arc trainer, man. I'm getting on it.

[Tyler]

Cancer.

[Jimmy]

It's moon man with 20. Did y' all hear about the Omaha police officer who got shot in the head a couple days ago? I did not. Whoa.

[Mike]

How do I live? I did, actually. I did. See, he. I believe he did live. Let me. Let me.

[Tyler]

God, can you imagine taking one to the door.

[Jimmy]

I'll pull it up.

[Mike]

Yeah. Omaha police officer shot I. I did. I get so many messages and I keep up with them all. But sometimes it just. Those things I hear about it and it slips my mind.

[Tyler]

It is hard. So, bro, I just. So Copville has already just his DMs alone. He was already drowning in DMS. Now he has anti hero DMS as well. And it's. It just. You know.

[Mike]

And the phone number.

[Tyler]

I knew Mike was burnt out because I've seen Mike's responses because he helps me respond to people. People. And somebody texted us this long thing, right? It was. It was very intricate. I'm very. I'm a huge supporter story, bro. And Mike goes. Thanks for the support. Mike here.

[Jimmy]

So all. Can I. I'll read this. Right. So this is from. Let me make sure I get the news agency right. So this is First Alert 6 from Omaha. So this is local news. Shut up.

[Mike]

CPR man. I'm not. I'm not.

[Jimmy]

I'm Doc Holiday, man.

[Mike]

I'm not putting my mouth on him.

[Jimmy]

A man was arrested allegedly shooting an Omaha police officer early Monday appeared in court Tuesday for unrelated domestic assault charges. Shedrick Mills, 36, is accused of punching an ex girlfriend in the face, smashing her phone before stealing it on July 1. According to the Omaha Police Department's report, Mills was arrested Monday after a confrontation with Officer Steve Mercy outside a gas station on 20th and Dodge Street. Police said Mills was booked for several charges after being apprehended at the nearby McDonald's. God. This reads for allegedly shooting the officer in the head. Police and Mercy's family have stated he is doing well and is expected to make a full recovery. So the cops gonna be okay? Shortly after the shooting, Police Chief Todd. God, man. Man. What is going on up there in the north? Dude, this is a weird name. And mayor John Ewing Jr. Shared details about the incident in the news conference. The chief said he had spoken with Mercy, a 16 year veteran of the department. The police chief and Mercy was in good. Said Mercy was in good condition along with identifying the man arrested. Okay.

[Mike]

All right. We're on to Cincinnati.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Hey, man, I. Bro, you're doing fine. I just.

[Jimmy]

I didn't know it was almost done.

[Mike]

We're about to get into his grandkids.

[Jimmy]

And I was three sentences away from me.

[Tyler]

All right, finish it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, okay. Jesus Christ. I clicked away from the page. OPD said the body camera, though one of the officers involved in the incident. They have it first. Alert 6 reached out. Blah, blah, blah. Booked on Monday. Correct. County corrections for attempted second degree murder, use of a weapon to commit a felony, possession of a weapon prohibited by a prohibited person, theft, damage to property, domestic assault, assaulting a police officer. Okay, so that's pretty much everything.

[Mike]

So he was a felon with a gun.

[Jimmy]

He was a felon with a gun.

[Tyler]

That. That being said, let's go to Instagram. Go into the conversations with this fellow named Suck a free Sunday.

[Jimmy]

And it does sound like a dick.

[Tyler]

He's hated by everybody.

[Mike]

One person more than the rest.

[Jimmy]

One. Just one.

[Mike]

Just one.

[Tyler]

Should we. Should we play the recent reel that was made or.

[Jimmy]

No, no, I don't give a. I like that. Real.

[Mike]

How's that thing like this?

[Tyler]

All right, so go to my. Oh, oh, you're in there. Sorry. Oh, right there. Right there, right there. Yep. So this is Seattle, everybody. I don't know when you're gonna play it, but this is why Seattle's a hole. This guy actually came on and said this. I'm gonna play right now.

[Jimmy]

Somebody has offended six, seven, eight times, even if it's a minor offense, but.

[Mike]

They continue to fail to turn their life around. At what point do you balance public.

[Jimmy]

Safety to giving this person, you know, some accountability? What is that balance?

[Mike]

So let me make something very clear. I was the one that sponsored the ban the box legislation when everyone posted because the criminal system has had a disparate impact on black and brown communities. Let me lead with that.

[Jimmy]

So when this person is committing six.

[Mike]

Or seven crimes, I didn't know his or her story. Maybe they were abused as a child, maybe they're hungry. So my remedy is to find their.

[Jimmy]

Life story to see how we could help first.

[Mike]

I have no desire to put them in jail, but I need to protect you.

[Jimmy]

And that's the calibration that we have.

[Mike]

I put police officers on the stand.

[Jimmy]

I've cross examined them.

[Mike]

So whether they commit seven or eight.

[Jimmy]

Crimes to me is not the issue.

[Mike]

The issue is why are they committing these crimes?

[Jimmy]

If.

[Tyler]

You'Re good, okay, So I love how he says, the only thing that he really says that shows his true colors is I put police officers on the stand, I cross examine him. The hell does that have to do with the price and tea in China? When they're asking you why do you let criminals out?

[Jimmy]

So I mean, at what point I'm, listen, believe it or not, I'm probably as anti cop as you can possibly get. Like I, I think there's a lot of fucking cops out there that abuse their power. They are absolutely untrained, undisciplined, and they have all of the power to take away my constitutional rights or kill me. That said, I like them more than the fucking criminals that are out there. And I absolutely want them to get the fucking criminals. So if we've got a fucking career criminal out there, I don't care if he got beat when he was a kid. My stepmom beat me with fucking phone books. I turned into a pretty good member of society.

[Mike]

You, my take is that it's the judicial system is responsible for entering the those questions, the police respond to an incident we shouldn't take into account because if you committed 27 crimes and I judge you because it's your 28th, do I hope, do I treat you worse? I should treat you innocent until proven guilty every single time I make contact with you. So the police have no bearing on 6 arrests, 10 arrests, 12 arrests. I walk up to you, I investigate this crime independently of every other crime you've committed. Yes. If I know you have weapons, if I know you, or to have a knife, I'm going to use that in my head. But otherwise, what you did that day is in and of itself that call for that day. The judicial system should go, why has this guy been in front of me six times? The judge should say why. They should know the background. They have time to study the background. They have time to form an opinion about the background of that offender. The police respond to an immediate emergency where somebody called 911 or a crime is being committed and there has to be an immediate reaction. I don't care if it's the first time that guy's seen the cops or the hundred and first time, he should be treated equally. Unless there's other factors, like I said, gang affiliation, known weapons, known drug trafficker. But just because he's been accused of, let's say, battery 50 times the 51st time doesn't make him guilty of battery until I investigate it. So that statement in and of itself is asinine because it should be the judicial system that has the time to dig into what his history is. That's why he's sentenced accordingly and has a score sheet and all those other things. That is not even a police issue. The police show up, make an arrest, take him to jail and let the court system do the rest of it. So that guy is a. And of course he had to throw the black and brown thing in there. The keyword.

[Jimmy]

He said all the keywords, dude, like.

[Tyler]

I cross examine police officers.

[Jimmy]

We didn't ask you that, dude.

[Tyler]

I'm sure you do.

[Jimmy]

On Monday I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk about the division between in race and its Marxist backgrounds. So that's pretty much what that is.

[Mike]

And there's one comment that says, yeah, if you know again, known history, if I know a guy to have a weapon or if I know he's got a history or something, I'm going to factor that in. But just like I said earlier today, he's shot somebody and we take him to jail and on Tuesday he's a victim. You still have to treat him like a victim.

[Tyler]

You're telling me that a known bag out there, you're not going to to have bias or prejudice thoughts towards. And prejudice is not racist, by the way. Prejudice is preconceived.

[Mike]

You're going to be like, I know this dude's guilty, but you still have to prove the elements of the crime.

[Tyler]

No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you're not going.

[Mike]

To go with a yeah, you're going to have a jaded mind. But it's not my dissension to go, well, he had a really love rough Life. He got cut from the JV baseball team when he was nine. And ever since then, it's like, proven.

[Tyler]

To yourself that everybody with a baklava is going to blow up. You just got to. Just kidding, just kidding.

[Jimmy]

Oh, that was a good one.

[Tyler]

Takes a while to get out of that mindset.

[Jimmy]

Oh, it does, it does. I mean, so Mike Tyler. Questions. Yo. Who was a guy or gal that you ran into regularly? Who were your regulars?

[Mike]

I mean, that is terrible. Yeah, I mean, I could.

[Jimmy]

What were your, like, somebody that you ran into regularly? What's, what does that typically look like?

[Tyler]

The guy that got him demoted?

[Mike]

That was only my second time.

[Jimmy]

Oh, I, I, I'm sorry.

[Mike]

So, I mean, honestly, it, most of the, it depends on the area. Like, when I worked the hood, it was like the same guys selling dope, same white guys coming to buy dope. You knew him by name, you pulled them over, you had the same type of interactions. They know you're looking for dope. You know you're looking for dope. They're trying to hide it. So there was, there was. Just then you got your homeless people that are all drunk at the gas station, lifting beers every, you know, two days or getting called in for shoplifting or trespass. Yes, you learn. But even you have to still maintain some level of unbiasedness to, to investigate a crime, because if that's very dangerous to show up and almost like, never.

[Tyler]

Mind, you don't have to have problems.

[Mike]

I was about to use the worst analogy ever. It, I'm glad I stopped myself.

[Jimmy]

The reason why, the reason why I'm asking. I'm trying to play, you know, I'm trying to play Joe Rogan here is, is like, there's a lot of people like me that.

[Tyler]

Jimmy thinks he's Joe Rogan.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. You know, there's a lot of people like me that don't understand the day in, day out grind of cops. And you guys, you guys have hit it pretty hard lately, but people need to understand what that mindset actually is. This is very different than an infantryman rolling around inside a city. It's. And, and the more light we shed on this subject, the better we can understand the cops and we can hold them accountable.

[Mike]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. And it's, it's, there's so many other things that, like, go into the job and go into the daily performances of the job that people like, everybody wants to body cam right away. Well, there's things have to be redacted. There's things we can't A shooting at somebody's house. There's laws about showing the video in somebody's house. House. There's just so many rules that everybody want because of the Internet and all that stuff. Everybody wants the information we want to know. Right.

[Tyler]

And if you don't have a backstory to a video.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's bad.

[Tyler]

The world's gonna create their own.

[Mike]

I'm sure that Charlotte shooting wasn't yesterday, that they. That is one they did not want out. They were doing everything. Yeah, they were doing everything they could. Like.

[Tyler]

And I don't think they're state laws. I think it's agency dependent on women.

[Mike]

They'll get. They'll get into lawsuits eventually if they really hold out. And then it'll be a judge ruling that finally says, okay, you have to read like, you have to. Public record says you have to be able to see it. There's certain situations, and they. They always do the old active investigation, but he's dead, so it's like, how long can it be active when you have a dead person?

[Tyler]

They don't count. His investigation, like his criminal investigation. That's part of the investigation. That's a separate investigation.

[Mike]

Correct. You have the internal affairs investigation, the shooting, and then the homicide. They basically worked out like a homicide.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Tyler]

Hey, wait, Bradley, while we're talking, is there any way on YouTube you can. We're about to hit it. Can you see if you can find Texas National Guard soldiers?

[Jimmy]

I got it, Bradley. I can send it to you.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, send it. You can?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. You want me to send it to the video? I've got the. No, it's just a. It's a digital picture.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Go back to the video, because this will help prove the AI Thing. But anyway.

[Jimmy]

Texas. What?

[Tyler]

Texas National Guard.

[Jimmy]

Fat. Yeah. So.

[Mike]

I hope Sal's an Eagles fan. I bet.

[Tyler]

Are they.

[Jimmy]

Is he saying, fly, Eagles, fly?

[Mike]

No, but I'm thinking, hope they lose.

[Jimmy]

No, I. I want the Giants to win because even though my buddy Jim is an Eagles fan, he's from Philly, like, I want the Eagles to lose.

[Tyler]

All right, so while I see videos.

[Mike]

I mean, it's videos of other people's.

[Tyler]

I'm telling you. All right, let's get into it. Let's get into it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Tyler]

Pete Hagseth addressed all of the generals.

[Jimmy]

The chunker Stop Pork monsters.

[Tyler]

He addressed him and said, we will have no more fat bodies in the military. Right. That was what he said. And I, I. And it did age well, because two weeks later, we have. What are they deploying to Texas National Guard. Going to where?

[Jimmy]

Chicago.

[Tyler]

Imagine that. And I, I'm not 100 convinced that this is not AI. So I want to see a video. But Jimmy, while you look, Jimmy, shed some light on the situation.

[Jimmy]

So I, I did plug this in. So if you're gonna analyze something for AI, the best thing to put it into is AI.

[Tyler]

AI. AI can find AI.

[Jimmy]

Whether or not that's like a cop.

[Tyler]

Telling you he's a dirty cop. Right?

[Jimmy]

Well, and the analogy is not necessarily wrong because a dirty cop will be sniffed out by a good cop.

[Mike]

Ah, I just want to. I can't wait for the clip to come out where you clip Jimmy saying he's the most anti cop person in the world. Because he just said that.

[Jimmy]

I did.

[Mike]

Yeah, I can't wait for that one.

[Jimmy]

I did.

[Mike]

That's gonna be a great.

[Tyler]

Somebody else is gonna.

[Jimmy]

Which, you know what's. But the most.

[Mike]

I, I'm the most self proclaimed worst top hater on earth.

[Jimmy]

I, I did. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't you put your, don't you put that evil on me, Ricky. I, I am anti modern cop. I have.

[Tyler]

What does that even mean?

[Jimmy]

I'll give you an example.

[Mike]

Are you okay?

[Jimmy]

No, no, no, no. Let me, let me, let me. Hey, when did you become a cop?

[Mike]

2001. My first shift was 2001.

[Jimmy]

So I'll say anybody that became a cop after 2018, okay, I'll just, I'll just put it out there. There's a younger breed of cop.

[Mike]

They're terrible.

[Jimmy]

That's the ones I'm talking about. All right? I'm not talking about you.

[Mike]

Okay. I don't care. You should be anti me. I'm a terrible cop.

[Jimmy]

But I will bet you money if I was drunk and like belligerent, you'd be like, should we get your ass back in the house?

[Mike]

Before you get up, I throw you on the ground like old men.

[Jimmy]

I'd be like, dude. And then when I got sober, I'd be like, well, I probably deserve that one.

[Mike]

And that was, you know, working dope. You have to be very reasonable because everybody thinks, and I saw this mistake made a lot in agencies. They always thought the guy that made the most drug arrest was the best dope cop you could make. Zero drug arrest and be a good dope cop. Yeah. You work people, you work informants, you work for that.

[Jimmy]

Hopefully you have to have that, that human intelligence.

[Mike]

You have to be able to make them want to help you out, but kind of help them out.

[Jimmy]

And so, so I. I mean, what. It's ironic though that I can say that unequivocally. I really can. Let me. I'm going to give you an example. I'm going across the. Anybody that lives in Clearwater. I'm going across the Courtney Campbell Causeway coming out of Clearwater, heading towards Tampa at 9:30 at night.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Jimmy]

9:30, 10. I know when the shift changes. You know why I know when the shift changes? Because I trained some of those cops and how to do battle drill six interbuilding clear room. I know a lot of the cops in Clearwater. Okay? So I'm coming across the bridge and I see in front of me in the left hand lane. It's a two lane bridge. A Clearwater Police SUV. It's a 65 mile an hour bridge. Nobody does 65 miles an hour on that. If you're in the left hand lane. Left lane. Lane in Florida. For anybody that doesn't know, left hand lane is for illegal speeds only people for that ticket money.

[Mike]

Yeah, but they don't fucking do it.

[Jimmy]

I know they don't.

[Mike]

Right lane. This the right lane is the new left lane.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it pretty much right. Okay. But the left hand lane, so I'm in the far left hand lane, it's a two lane bridge and I'm going across this thing and I'm in my truck and I'm. I'm making the jump to light speed. Okay. I am. I'm.

[Tyler]

I'm not doing purpose.

[Jimmy]

I'm going. I. It. The. The speed limit is 65, but I know there can't be any cops on this bridge.

[Tyler]

I thought you said you saw one.

[Jimmy]

I. There can't be anybody shooting radar. There's no place for you to shoot radar.

[Tyler]

If I. Okay, we can. We can try.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you do that part because I'm going to tell you what happened. You're gonna be like, oh, okay, I get it. There's no place for a cop to sit and shoot radar because it's too narrow.

[Tyler]

Yeah, right.

[Jimmy]

You have to catch me at the other side when I get over the pump where there's a little bit of spit of land where you can shoot radar at me. I know where that is. There's a Clearwater cop. But this is going from Clearwater to Tampa. I know where the jurisdiction is.

[Tyler]

Are you gonna. You sound like Clint, bro. Get to the story.

[Jimmy]

Okay. I go past this cop and I'm doing probably 87.

[Tyler]

So you didn't know he was there?

[Jimmy]

No, I knew he was there. Okay. I. He's in the left Hand lane, he's doing 65. I went past him. I passed him at about 87 miles an hour. Hour. He fucking lights me up. Okay. Lights me up. I pull over, pull everything out. And he goes, hey, man, are you in a hurry? And I'm like, no, man, you were just doing 65 in the left hand lane. And I figured you were getting off, heading back to Tampa because this is not your jurisdiction.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And I didn't think you would light me up. He goes, and he laughed. And he goes, that's the best answer I ever heard, ever. And he goes, hey, man, slow down. Have a good night. And off I go. That is a good interaction with cops. That's.

[Tyler]

That's a. I used to be. I used to be. When I was a younger cop, I used to be like. It used to piss me off when people would blow my doors off and I would. And I didn't care if I was on my way home. Right. I would pull them over. I went to. I came to realize that a lot of people are not paying attention when they're driving and they blow by you. And they're not trying to piss you off. They're not trying to say you. They blow by you because they don't even see you there. So then that was when I lived in the county I worked in, and then I lived out of county for the next agency I worked for. And like, bro, I'm not pulling somebody over out of my jurisdiction. I'm not pulling somebody over on my way home.

[Jimmy]

That's. And that's what I figured. And that's what I told him. I was like, I figured you were.

[Tyler]

Going home because when you. When you do something like that, you get. You. Let's say I'm on my way home. I'm 20 minutes either outside the. I was. You say those super cops, they exist, right? No crime can exist no matter what time of day it is. You get a stolen car and it takes off on you. Now everybody's got to work this. And they're like, you were on your way home and you caused all this work for us.

[Mike]

Oh, really? You don't have jurisdiction unless it's a public safety issue. If you're outside your area.

[Jimmy]

I don't really know.

[Mike]

Like, I saw. I was leaving last Thursday night. I got. There was a Coco police car on 95, and they're very limited jurisdiction on 95. We got all the way to Palm bay, which is 20 minutes outside of Cocoa. And as I'm going, he pulls a car over right on the ramp. And I'm like, how strange is that? Yeah. Like, in my head, I'm going, there's no scenario on earth I would pull somebody 20, 30 minutes outside of my jurisdiction unless it was, like, an obvious DUI or a real problem. And that struck me odd. Like, I was like.

[Tyler]

The only other thing is, I'm thinking is that they were like, a task force is like, hold on. Uniform car that we just told you to pull over. You're gonna follow.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And it's a task force thing. And then. But they had to have a uniform marked city.

[Mike]

Cocoa car.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Two cities south of where it belongs in this case. Like, the cop was so cool from Clearwater. He just. He just laughed at me. He was like, that's. That's a great answer. Yeah. And then, you know, of course, I got my army stickers in the back, and I've got. You know, I have an anti hero sticker in the background, too.

[Tyler]

Y.

[Jimmy]

And, you know, like, I. I get pulled over everyone, and I'm. I'm pretty cool with them right now.

[Tyler]

They'll be like, where's Brent? Yeah, here's your double ticket.

[Mike]

Yeah, I don't think I've been. I haven't been. Oh, I did get pulled over once since I not have not been a cop once coming home from here.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah. You got me, like, two or three months ago, after one of the lives I was stable, 60 runs into. Yes. That was quick. State Road 60. Well, now I ran. I'm not gonna say anything because the sheriff's gonna find out. Reprimand that dude for not writing me a ticket. But it was coming back from the live. And, you know, 60 is three lanes each week. When you come off 95. When I get home, there was nobody on the road. I'm like, trying to hurry up and get home. And. Yeah, it's the only time since I've been gone.

[Tyler]

I'll tell you what. Outside of. Outside of being. Outside of a PC type thing, for a bigger charge. For a bigger charge. When's the last time you wrote a speed ticket?

[Jimmy]

That's fhp, bro.

[Mike]

I wrote. I can remember it because it's like two and a half, three years ago. I had to go to court on it. I hate going to court. I got a guy driving a unregistered truck with no license, and he was going like, 101, and I'm like. And he was running his mouth. So I'm like, not only am I taking you to jail, like, you're getting a speeding ticket too.

[Tyler]

Because it's like, but he went to jail.

[Mike]

But yeah, but I'm like, but my point was like, bro, you know, your license is suspended and you know you have an unregistered vehicle. Why are you going 100? Like, you should be in the right lane going 70. So I'm like, I think that, that, that was like, I can remember as a white, white Chevy pickup, Hispanic dude. That was the last speeding ticket I wrote.

[Tyler]

I cannot remember the last time I wrote a speeding ticket. I haven't had my traffic citation thing in years. And then we went digital and, and I remember I couldn't remember. I couldn't. We had to learn how to do crash reports. And they're like, yeah, but you guys are all familiar with this system. You guys have been writing tickets on it for a year. I'm like, I don't, I don't think I had it downloaded on my computer.

[Mike]

I still have paper citations in my garage.

[Tyler]

I still have paper wrote.

[Jimmy]

That was my original point, was that Mike said, well, Jimmy's the most anti cop guy ever.

[Mike]

That's what he said, right?

[Jimmy]

That's what I said.

[Mike]

That's what you said.

[Tyler]

You said, dog.

[Mike]

Mike didn't say that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, and it's, it's true.

[Tyler]

I, I, it makes for good.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, no, it does. It's true. There are people that, that joined that the Tick Tock generation that I have a problem with.

[Tyler]

I got a problem. I got a problem.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Okay.

[Mike]

Okay. He's backing up again.

[Jimmy]

Hey, Mikey, we're moonwalking back again.

[Mike]

Now it's the Tick Tock generation. He only has a problem with.

[Jimmy]

Oh my God.

[Mike]

Let me hear it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Mike]

There, there's, I have a problem with them too.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

And I once danced with my shirt off.

[Jimmy]

I, I don't give a what you do.

[Mike]

Somebody posted it the other day.

[Jimmy]

You can sit there and put oak leaves over your chicklets. I don't give a.

[Mike]

There'd be one little oak leaf is all you need.

[Jimmy]

All right, Adam. It's Adam and Eve.

[Tyler]

We get the referee.

[Jimmy]

So there, there's a, there's, I, I hate fhp. Oh, man, I really do.

[Mike]

You're really rolling the dice now.

[Jimmy]

I know.

[Mike]

I love fhp. By the way, for all you brown suit.

[Tyler]

For a guy that spreads multiple hours a day on the interstate, that's a very bold statement.

[Mike]

Somewhere over here there's a so energy patch. And I love troopers.

[Jimmy]

Let me, let me tell you that. So I got it. I got into a vehicle accident. It was not my fault. I got t boned at an intersection by a guy that ran a red light. I got out of my vehicle, I pulled my, my, my assault bag out of my vehicle that had my gun in it. That's why I pulled it out, because this vehicle stuck. I can't move it. And the FHP cop was trying to bust me. He's like, hey, what did you go throw into the wood line? What bag did you go throw into the wood line? I'm like, I didn't throw any bag into the woodline. Well, multiple witnesses said that you did. And I went, There's 15 cameras around here and I do this for a living. Go look at any one of those cameras and tell me where I did that. I'll dare you.

[Mike]

You.

[Jimmy]

I don't think I did exactly say that.

[Mike]

Charlotte County. You would have got shot for that.

[Jimmy]

That was fhp. I, I, Officer Jensen, here's what you.

[Tyler]

Do about this body.

[Jimmy]

I do want his body.

[Mike]

They don't have them. They don't wear. FHP doesn't have body.

[Jimmy]

So, like this little piece of who was three inches shorter than me, who was trying to go, oh, we think you threw some into the woods.

[Mike]

So let me get this straight now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. I, I'll get fired up on this.

[Mike]

Because you had one negative interaction with one FHP trooper. All FHP is bad.

[Jimmy]

No, I've had lots of it negative, but that one's the worst.

[Mike]

Like, all cops are bad.

[Jimmy]

No, I. What? You, you asked me why you came at me about fhp. Like the only one. He's coming up. Because you were asking me about why, Why I was moonwalking. I. Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

Jimmy, are you okay?

[Tyler]

Jimmy, let's hit up these two super chats real quick and then we'll, we'll get into the Pete Hex says fat body.

[Jimmy]

All right, we got West Summersland. Out of 20 boys, is there any room for bottom up refinement to make its way into law enforcement short of the blue flu? Keep up the good work, former 1504 Red Devil. Another $20 for the beer fund and Scarlet by para free closer.

[Mike]

That's two.

[Jimmy]

So it's 40 for that now.

[Mike]

All right, so the blue flu, and we've, we talked about that Monday. And you would be indicted for trying.

[Tyler]

To organize that if we, if we.

[Mike]

If we, if we would be canceled.

[Tyler]

If we got big enough to where we orchestrated a massive countrywide blue flu. Right? And let's just say it started as a joke and then we were like, hey, we're going for it in four months. And we did a countdown in one day. There was no law enforcement working because they were all in, which would never happen. But let's just say we did it. The FBI would take us in. Me, we would never see the light of day again. We would be incarcerated the second time.

[Mike]

They came after me.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we'd be incarcerated for life for sure.

[Mike]

Yes. So. And I don't. There is always. There's a way to fight back. That to me, is not the right way because you're not. You're. Yes, you're affecting the building, but you are. You work for the people. So the people that need you that day. And I, I get there's. But remember in those days where it's like misery and that. That's going on, get closer. You're. You're just, you're. You're failing the people there. And the right answer is DM Copville. And let's blow your administration out on reels.

[Tyler]

And let's blow your administration.

[Mike]

Not blow them. Blow them up, put them on blast. Make them famous. And the other thing, and this goes back to my good friend Reagan, who I'd still like to punch in the face.

[Jimmy]

You guys, you guys who I want to beat the shit.

[Mike]

You guys need to fucking speak up. I can speak up, but you have to speak up within the agency. If enough of you speak up and start coming out and saying this is fucked up, that's how the change happens. And I. Dom says the same thing. How many times do I get message. I get it. I'll put it on blast. But if you guys are going to sit back and let it continue within your own agency and not stand up for what's right, I'm gonna be labeled as the crazy, disgruntled former cop who got fired, investigated, was on Tick Tock. He's racist. All the things they say about me, they're just going to categorize me as that. But if the movement is not maybe a blue flu, the movement is. Cops are done taking it. And we're going to collectively get together and we're going to say the things that I'll. Public records request every file in that agency for those bags that you're dealing with and we'll let their history go out. We'll talk about them.

[Jimmy]

Them.

[Tyler]

Well, so we got. You got two SMEs on how to do this. That, that Mike is very, very good at that. The other one is, I did this for two years as an active cop. I just, I. I push for reform. I on admin. I on the culture. You know, if every cop did what I did.

[Jimmy]

Wait, wait, wait. So you on the culture? Did you make a counterculture?

[Tyler]

Ooh, I like it. That's a good one. Let's go. Good plug.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And man, I'm telling you, dude, if every cop just didn't feel scared to go speak the truth, whether you go on a podcast where you're on podcast where you're just, oh, like obviously in uniform, don't talk to News Channel 7 on a murder scene, but you can go spread your opinion on the culture. You can spread your opinion on admin and brass overall, you know, overall, you don't have to single out yours.

[Mike]

And you, if you really dig into it, to it, if what you're saying is factual and it's in the best interest of the public, you're covered under whistleblower. So if you go out there and say the sheriff, the sheriff steals money or the sheriff is whatever, I don't want to say other crazy, but. And it's not factual, then you're, you're speaking detrimental about the agency and you're not in the best interest of the agency. But if you say I saw the sheriff steal that hat and he's a bad person for doing that, if it's factual and you're telling the public things they need to know about the administration, you're covered under whistleblower, you have to fight back. This is the cops telling you, the former cops that did the job saying it's not okay to lay down and let them continue to do what they're doing. And you can see the ship. You got Chicago telling them not to respond to help agents. You got agencies like Boston Police Department that just their guys. You got Broward County, Greg2Tony. That just puts guys on leave for three years and forgets about them until we all say what needs to be said about these people. They're going to keep running, they're going to keep winning. And guys like Sal up in New Jersey are going to get indicted by piece of politicians that have no business being there.

[Tyler]

How long are you gonna cook for?

[Mike]

You want me done? No, no, no.

[Jimmy]

I let him go. So, like speak up. Let me ask you a question. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you a hypothetical that I actually know something about. In a county with a sheriff, if you are a cop and you know that one of these sheriffs has cognitive decline in his state showing.

[Mike]

Judd. I didn't say I'm say it because I can't stand him.

[Jimmy]

It's gritty. Judd.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Every.

[Jimmy]

I've talked to 15. 14. 15 deputies.

[Mike]

It's more than that, but, yes, I.

[Jimmy]

I'm just talking about me. 14 to 15 deputies, 10 of which that I trained in battle drill six. That does. For people that don't know that's in our building Clear room, who have said that he is showing early stages of cognitive decline in Alzheimer's.

[Mike]

He is the perfect example. He gets, like, 212,000 votes in an election. Nobody runs against him.

[Jimmy]

Nobody runs against him.

[Mike]

I went and did the numbers. He gets, like, over 200,000 votes every year. He's loud. He is funny.

[Jimmy]

I'll give it to you how you knew who exactly talked about.

[Mike]

Dude, I get a thousand DMS a week.

[Tyler]

I can't. Okay, so I just want you guys to see some comments. Oh, oh, okay. I see some of.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, there's one I wanted to read as well.

[Tyler]

So, Bradley, we're gonna. I just. Zach. We see your comments. Pretty funny. Zach did make fun of your AC Ash cover boy, which you don't know about. That is. That's where you took shrapnel from an rpg. So.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, so that's.

[Tyler]

And he kept it. He kept it. He didn't turn it in.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's showing a gun on tv.

[Jimmy]

Oh.

[Tyler]

Oh. You're like Kevin from Guys on Ground, just pulling out rifles.

[Jimmy]

So I. For those that don't know, my. My. My Mitch that I still have took shrapnel from an RPG that blew the top of my tower off. So I have two big, big gashes in it from an rpg. It was supposed to go back to. I think it was Aberdeen Proving Ground, but I never turned it in. And I said I lost it. And Cif maybe buy a new one, but who's not gonna buy the helmet that saved their life?

[Tyler]

Yeah, dude, I'll.

[Jimmy]

I'll put.

[Tyler]

The grandkids will be like, damn, what the. Is this old relic? And you'll be. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Ach. Yeah.

[Tyler]

And so you see the one from Zach up there?

[Mike]

No.

[Tyler]

Go up.

[Jimmy]

Was it the one that I want to read out?

[Tyler]

We're not gonna read it. But everybody. How many? No. Or if you go down, go down.

[Mike]

This one. That one?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

That'S pretty good.

[Tyler]

You guys can go look at that one of Zach's comment. Yes. The answer is yes, but have you.

[Jimmy]

Guys ever heard of a story of this happening?

[Mike]

No. Oh, yeah, that's happened, dude. Yes. God, not me, dudes. I just jerked it. No, they didn't tell you, but they watch porn, they get caught. When the MDT came out, when the computers came.

[Tyler]

What, watching porn?

[Jimmy]

I got caught in the tower jerking off.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's not the same at all.

[Mike]

Oh, that's supposed to talk about that?

[Jimmy]

It happened.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

That's when he got hit with an rpg.

[Mike]

There was maybe my agency got smoked. Dudes were using watching porn all the time when they first got computers. Dude, but you're talking this, you're going back, remember? I'm talking like Commodore 64s in the car. No, guys were watching porn. Guys were looking up on people, on David. They were. Cops are dumb, dude. Yes, guys are absolutely doing that, dude. They're having sex with women in the back of their car. Getting caught on camera. But Jesus got locked himself in the back.

[Jimmy]

I, I, I know somebody. I, I know a police officer in Tampa that got caught banging a prostitute. I know his name. I went to church with that guy.

[Mike]

Grew up with him.

[Jimmy]

I would love to call him out on here, but that's not the kind.

[Mike]

I don't know his name. I'd say it.

[Jimmy]

Is that showing too much?

[Mike]

What?

[Jimmy]

The handle.

[Tyler]

The handle.

[Jimmy]

His last name is? Yeah, his last name is Smith.

[Mike]

Slide that gap back underneath your helmet or get rid of it. It's still sticking out the gun.

[Tyler]

That is unnecessarily on the foot.

[Mike]

There we go.

[Jimmy]

Beautiful. All right, well, I, I just don't want it on my hip.

[Mike]

Nothing.

[Jimmy]

That's all it is.

[Mike]

Nothing to see here. You can read that next super chat.

[Jimmy]

All right, It's Moon Man. $5. Drop the tick Tock in the Patreon. Like give the people what they want.

[Mike]

You have my word. Patreon. I will drop one of my cringe miserable Tick tocks.

[Tyler]

Hold them to it, dude. I'll do it.

[Mike]

I'll do it. I'll do it. It's bad. It's. They're all bad. My biggest fan posted one last week. I reshared it, you know, and to cover it one more time, I was mentally ill, so I don't advocate for it. I go after tick tock cops because I know at the time I made those stupid videos. I was not focused on the job. I was going through a catastrophe and I used it for attention. I got better. I got promoted. After that, I made swat. I did all that stuff.

[Tyler]

So this is a long time ago, 2020.

[Mike]

But that's why I call them mentally ill and say things because I know that they're using it for personal gratification. Kind of like jerking off in the car. They're essentially jerking their brain off in the car by making videos, getting likes views. Oh my God, look at me. I'm on, you know, I want to be famous. A lot of their responses when I post them, when I call them out and then tag them make me famous. Thank you. They try to like downplay it and it's. It what I'm saving you for and what Dom is trying to say save you for from is what happened to me was they call me racist because there was a rap song playing. That's a new one.

[Tyler]

One of you say the N word.

[Mike]

No, I did not. When the boys. I did not.

[Tyler]

I did not.

[Mike]

I did not. But my ex wife did mouthed it. I was not. I did not. But it. That was the headline and some in the dms, you know, saying all this racist. And I went through all that. But that the fact that I gave anyone the opportunity to put me through that situation is my fault. So when you get a defense attorney that pulls those videos up from five, eight years ago and you're doing some dumb on TikTok, it is not fun being on the stand in front of a jury in a very serious setting and have to answer basic questions about an investigation. You've been on the stand. It's very nerve wracking. Now answer. Hey, why did you make this TikTok with the N word in it? Why did you say you were going to give everybody tickets because you didn't get laid last night? Like imagine having to answer that in a court setting. It would not be fun. So that's why I make fun of them. Because nobody else, they won't listen. So that's what's going to happen.

[Tyler]

All right, so we've been there. We've got to. First off, we've got to cover the P hegsef National Guard.

[Jimmy]

All I can find is a picture, I'm telling you.

[Tyler]

But hold on, before we get into that, there's a couple things we got to do. First off, if you haven't gone, we're telling you things are happening with, you know, the, the broadcast and the squad cast and stuff. If you haven't, please go to the Counterculture Inc. YouTube and give it a follow. That's where you'll find tons of the podcasts that we interact with on antire. We have our own YouTube but we have a ton of podcasts.

[Mike]

Name some of them. We got beyond the Barrel.

[Tyler]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

[Mike]

Just on our YouTube on counterculture. Oh, just a counterculture show.

[Tyler]

We have the Navy SEAL show. Other than honorable. We've got my beautiful wife Heather's show.

[Jimmy]

Which Lily filtered it on Fade.

[Mike]

We were doing a show and what that is now we're going to read. We're going to actually split off and do our. I have the Wednesday night Hot Topic. But we were doing a show together. Due to this situation, nobody wants to see us four or five days a week on two shows. So we're going to eventually. I think our goal is to have like a video like bjj, Use of force video breakdown show show. You're gonna kick off another show. So that's growing.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And then.

[Tyler]

For the squad cast purposes, we might need you to go follow the counterculture thing. So if you get a chance, go to Counterculture Inc. YouTube. Give it a follow. Give it a subscribe. Check out all the podcasts. Guys on ground are on there. You know, that's Kevin's show. You've been a part of that.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So Peach and I are, are doing stuff where we're breaking down tactics, infantry tactics. The differences between the army and the Marine Corps. Peaches, a fantastically knowledgeable infantryman. I did infantry things. I, I won't, I won't say that.

[Tyler]

Jerk off in a guard check.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I did. I did jerk off in a tower while hating cops. Well, well, hating cops and, and, and Marine gone to Marine Scotsn school. But we have a lot of fun breaking down tactics. So if you don't know the differences in infantry and you want to know, man, we. Peach does a fantastic job. I'm just there.

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

Here we go. I don't think we did it right.

[Tyler]

We did it not do a Patreon giveaway. It's been. It's been crazy here in anti hero videos, but I gotta go check this out. What's today's date?

[Jimmy]

Today is the 9th of October, 2025.

[Tyler]

All right, so what I'm gonna have you do, Mike, is I'm gonna have you choose this random number generator.

[Jimmy]

Not Colin, huh?

[Mike]

Colin doesn't win.

[Tyler]

Colin wins. Colin.

[Mike]

No, he did. So I'm very, very open to discussion. And there was a guy in the Patreon, he actually had a very funny comment about me. Said he'd rather watch re watch his vasectomy than listen to me talk. But then we went back and forth and I afforded him the great opportunity of tap it, of allowing him to come on the show and talk, and he did not show up last night.

[Tyler]

Yeah, because he's a. Column's a. All right. Number 27 on the sign up sheet is Jeremy Chiano out of Ohio. Okay, so here's what you won. I guess I should have kicked it off with that. From our amazing sponsors at Cloud Defensive. We have a micro light, which is just an everyday standard. You could hook it on your roll lapel. You could put. Put on your keychain like it's a very, very bright light. Very small, very useful, very practical for anything you need. Obviously you don't want to clear rooms with it, but like I. Like I said, you can clip it right here. Shine your light on down. And a rifle sling from Flatline Fiber company. It's olive green. Very reliable slings. We use them on our own rifles. So you are the winner of those two things. Thank you to Patreon. It's the least we could do. Put out a weekly giveaway. I put out a workout video. Waiting on Mike to put one out, but you know, leg day is. Yeah, ask him to do a leg day one and you'll never get a.

[Mike]

And for those that aren't in the Patreon again, I try to answer as many DMS I can, but I patron he gets Priority? Yes. Honestly, I have to be very short sometimes. And I do not exaggerate that. I get 100 a day and a hero gets about the same. I'm trying to manage those dms, but we. All we ask is for a very small $5 a month that gives you priority access to the silly videos, the tick tocks that are coming, leg day routine and more opportunity to interact, share videos. And then you also get the benefit of getting free stuff. So. And we're gonna ramp that up. I'm gonna start throwing some Cobbville stuff in as we get more organized here.

[Tyler]

Well, right now the. The who the straight hooligan is prizes. There's some other things that separate the five and ten dollar tier.

[Mike]

So yeah, straight hooligan is prizes, but the five dollar, it allows you in the group. And again, I'm not begging for money. It just. Can you imagine doing all this and answering with us? Yes. Hundreds of messages a day.

[Jimmy]

So we appreciate it. I'm. I'm new and I'm getting 15 to 20.

[Mike]

It's. It gets rough and now I get to know anti air notification. So it's like my phone is just bidding bing, bing, bing, bing.

[Jimmy]

You have to turn them off.

[Mike]

They are for the most part. But I don't understand.

[Jimmy]

I only. I only answered one negative comment today. That's a. That's a win for me.

[Mike]

Good job.

[Tyler]

Was it the dank force?

[Jimmy]

Yes. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Where I was like that guy.

[Jimmy]

We should put that up on screen. Him.

[Tyler]

Anyway. I'm being negative though. Look at this. Look at what they're doing to me. Hey, let's get into this. Pete Hegseth. Not people not listening to him. Texas National Guard deploys into Chicago. Get a brief run down by Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Tyler]

Then we'll try and find. There's no video. I'm convinced the shit's AI.

[Jimmy]

I was only able to find a picture. I can find a picture, but I.

[Tyler]

Ran it through AI.

[Jimmy]

I did run it through AI, but I mean, even if I couldn't have had AI, here's what I would tell you. So the Texas National Guard did deploy. That's irrefutable fact. They did deploy to Chicago to protect federal assets. That's well within the jurisdiction of the National Guard. Since the Chicago PD won't go out there and do it themselves, we're gonna.

[Mike]

Dive into Chicago a little deeper on Monday. Oh, if you're interested in the Monday deep dish pizza. Interested in the deep dish pizza. Chicago. We got some breaking news out of there, but we're saving that that's more of a breaking news show.

[Jimmy]

So I have some notes here. My biggest one is the level of realism. Like, when you look at it, you don't see what we call artifacts in the picture.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Tyler]

What's that mean?

[Jimmy]

So an artifact is when you look at, like, a small detail. Right. So you look at somebody's hand and their fingers are, like, not in the right places on their patches. Other uniforms aren't.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

That's considered an artifact.

[Mike]

That's what it's called. You look at, like, a crowd. They post a crowd. Like, they'll be the same person and their face is mutilated.

[Jimmy]

So. Or. Or like some of these ones where you, like, you look and you go, the rank isn't. Right.

[Tyler]

Yeah, right.

[Jimmy]

That's not where we would put the rank. That's not how we would. That's not the way that an army rank actually looks. Right. So if you look at a staff sergeant, right. If it's three stripes up and one stripe down, a lot of times it.

[Tyler]

Just means AI up, Right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah. So that's an artifact. So you look and you go, there's no artifacts in this picture. The second is that it actually has a watermark from the Associated Press. Right. Which means that they want credit for that picture. And third is that we actually. They have credited the person that took the picture. Right. But every single one of those dudes is like big chungus coming out of the fucking back.

[Tyler]

Do you think it's real?

[Jimmy]

I do believe it's real, though.

[Tyler]

You don't think the Internet could lie about it in a credit?

[Jimmy]

No, I didn't say that.

[Tyler]

Just because I get photo credit.

[Jimmy]

Just because I. I will say that I think that that picture is real doesn't mean that you need to not do your due diligence to look.

[Tyler]

You think it's real?

[Jimmy]

I do.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Bradley, are you able to put up on screen the photo that you found? You can take a couple minutes if you need to. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You. Scott, look at this fucking sergeant Snackland.

[Mike]

Holy.

[Jimmy]

That is a.

[Tyler]

With a Combined weight of one ton, the military police section sergeants.

[Jimmy]

Jesus Christ. I mean, look at these guys.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Jimmy]

I mean, Secretary of War Hex, how.

[Tyler]

Do you get out of the back of the truck?

[Jimmy]

I. I don't know. I don't know.

[Tyler]

They had to drive these guys. And it looks like a. It's like your sports is going.

[Jimmy]

Dude, that looks. You know what that looks like? That looks like the cattle car that we got got into the backup.

[Tyler]

No, that looks like a Semi. Because they could fit these guys in a regular deuce.

[Jimmy]

I mean, look at.

[Mike]

Look at traffic. Look at that.

[Jimmy]

Look at that duffel bag. Look at how big that he is.

[Tyler]

A duffel bag.

[Jimmy]

That duffel bag looks small compared to him. Right?

[Tyler]

My God, I hope. I hope to God that these guys are AI.

[Jimmy]

He's probably a. A corrections deputy somewhere.

[Tyler]

What in the hell am I looking at that.

[Jimmy]

So, first of all, that's a nasty girl, right? That's a nasty girl.

[Tyler]

There's people in the comments saying. Kevin, saying that that Texas National Guard is actually a very squared away unit. They have the only.

[Jimmy]

I believe that, but that unit's not.

[Tyler]

That guy is the heavy drop portion of a airborne unit.

[Jimmy]

Like, I mean, for all we know.

[Tyler]

Why would you deploy these guys into the public eye? Take them off the line. Not the line. They're clearly not infantry, but, you know.

[Jimmy]

Take them battalion commander, company commander, Sergeant major for sure. What the. Over. That one's on them like National Guard. Dude, they are National Guard.

[Mike]

I mean, they're national.

[Tyler]

Oh, my God, dude.

[Jimmy]

Geez.

[Tyler]

They're not holding. There's no way it's AI. I'm telling you, it's AI.

[Jimmy]

I don't. I mean, we can't. What do you think, Bradley? I don't think it's AI. You don't?

[Tyler]

Why?

[Jimmy]

Because I've seen them, like, on Tick Tock.

[Tyler]

Oh, there's so much that's about as credible as.

[Jimmy]

No, no. Well, there's so much AI that I see every day on Social now you.

[Mike]

Got like, ducks and dogs getting pulled over.

[Jimmy]

It's starting to get obvious to tell.

[Mike]

I just. We said that months ago when I was on the show. The Internet is going to end up being obsolete because you cannot. You're not gonna be able to prove what you're looking at is real. From news to report. It's going to be.

[Tyler]

It got worse since you said that.

[Mike]

Yes. You can't tell them, like, what the. Am I looking at? Is this real?

[Tyler]

Like, I. I just. Okay, so think about crimes. Let's assume that picture is real.

[Jimmy]

Okay?

[Tyler]

Pete Hegs. Pete Hegseth tells his generals and his commanders, we will not have this. And then you as a first sergeant or not first sergeant, sergeant major, or colonel, decide to deploy these two, three heavy drops. All right, so, well, they cover six men, all right? And somebody even said, they commented on it and said, you know what? At least they, like, comment on our picture or sent us a DM and said, hey, maybe they'll be used in crowd Control and where they would have to use seven people. They only have to use three.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, hold the line, baby. So I'll play the devil's advocate as the first heart. Right?

[Mike]

The first one's probably just as big.

[Jimmy]

Okay, let's. Let's just assume that you're not wrong. But, like, I. I don't know the. The Texas National Guard, but I knew the Pennsylvania National Guard in 2008 and.

[Tyler]

Same thing.

[Jimmy]

Can. Can I tell it? Can I tell a story about the Pennsylvania National Guard?

[Mike]

Jimmy, you can tell. You can tell.

[Jimmy]

I just don't want to. I just don't want to take it.

[Mike]

You. You are the show.

[Tyler]

I don't think.

[Jimmy]

Get the.

[Tyler]

I don't think.

[Mike]

Go. Go. Look at the comments.

[Tyler]

I don't think you could give a longer soliloquy than Mike, if not soliloquy. Oh, Mike would still be talking if I had.

[Jimmy]

So 2009, February 2009, second brigade, 25th ID is getting ripped out by Pennsylvania National Guard in Iraq.

[Tyler]

That means.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yes, you do. Get the fuck out of here.

[Mike]

Go.

[Jimmy]

Fucking go fuck yourself.

[Tyler]

I'm just kidding.

[Jimmy]

Fuck yourself. We got the Pennsylvania National Guard in. They had strikers. We had strikers. We had to take their striker so signed for them, send our strikers back because they had been in Iraq for 15 months and were shot up and been rolling for 15 months. They needed to go back to Raytheon or Lockheed Martin, wherever the fuck it is, to get refurbished, right? So they had to go back early. We took that. We signed for the strikers from the Pennsylvania National Guard, an infantry unit. We got into their strikers, and I was an E5, and I'm looking at the strikers that they're bringing in, and I looked, and they had no crew serves. Crew serves. For those people that don't know, that's 50 cals and mark 19s. They had no 50 cals or mark 19s on our RWS. We had turned in all of the BII and the crew serves for our vehicles to our arms room. And I looked at the platoon sergeant from the Pennsylvania National Guard and I said, hey, Sergeant, where's your fucking crew serves? And he said, oh, they're still in the tricon. They won't be here for another three days. We were getting ready to go outside the wire that day, and, like, within an hour. And I went, go get them. Go get your fucking crew serves. He's like, well, we can't do that. I was like, well, I don't know if you know this or not, but there's Fucking people outside this wire that want to fucking kill you. And he's like, well, there's nothing I could do about it. That's on Battalion. And I went, okay, stand by. And I went back into the arms room and I said, don't fucking check those weapons in. Make me four hand receipts. And I pulled those hand receipts out and I went, you are signing for our crew service until you get yours, because clearly you're incapable of doing that. That was the Pennsylvania National Guard. Now, that was one platoon in the Pennsylvania National Guard. But they were ready to roll outside the wire without their fucking 50,000 mark 19s, into a place where four days prior, we had been in an ambush. That's the National Guard also. Not everybody.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we're not shitting on the National.

[Jimmy]

Not shitting on the National Guard. But you get a mixed bag. I mean, like, Kevin. Kevin's in ca. And guys on the ground, Kevin's in ca.

[Tyler]

He's pretty squared away Civil affairs.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Yeah, but that was my experience with the National Guard. So I have questions. I don't.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I mean, that's really the only take we have on it is fact that Pete Hegseth says it, and then two weeks later, they deploy these gigantic.

[Mike]

They didn't have time to get ready.

[Tyler]

Jesus Christ. Dude.

[Jimmy]

That's. That's. That's what it is. If I'm the first sergeant and I go, hey, on. On status board, on the. On the MTO board, this is what I got. Well, you're going, bro.

[Mike]

And that is a normal shift on patrol right now. Working some city.

[Tyler]

That is true. Let's hit up the Instagram.

[Mike]

I got. I just sent another video. Let's watch this one.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, go for it.

[Mike]

It's a good one in the Instagram. Somebody mentioned in the comments, and I sent it to Anti Hero, the most recent one.

[Jimmy]

You just.

[Mike]

Yep. This is a motorcycle type influencer guy who's famous on Tik Tok. And he thought he likes to, like, drive his motorcycle. Silly. And I think he think he got what he paid for in this one. All right.

[Jimmy]

I wish we had a video on his face.

[Mike]

Look at his face. Please. Get what you want.

[Tyler]

I thought it was bad at first, and then they ran him over, but.

[Mike]

If you try sometimes, you might just find you get what you need.

[Tyler]

I wish we could have seen Jimmy's face. He was up standing up like this.

[Mike]

So that dude's in, like, the. He's of some influencer. Like 450 followers. And he's in the hospital now. There's gofundmes and all that. But there's an easy way for none of that to happen. Don't pull.

[Tyler]

Do you think the cop meant to hit him?

[Mike]

Not the second one.

[Tyler]

I don't think that they're. So they're allowed to pit motorcycles?

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's Georgia.

[Jimmy]

I was gonna say that.

[Mike]

I don't think it was gsp.

[Tyler]

It looks like gsp.

[Mike]

Really?

[Tyler]

Let's watch it again. Let's watch it. Roll that.

[Jimmy]

Well.

[Mike]

Would you give him a speeding ticket.

[Tyler]

Area?

[Jimmy]

I don't think they saw him, so.

[Mike]

But if you hear the motorcyclist, you hear him saying, they hit me. They hit me. He's streaming that he thinks this is cool. He gets on line. This is where I. This is natural selection. That guy. All of his followers, all the. He puts out. That guy, he got everything he deserved. You're streaming that you're driving reckless. You could torpedo off that thing into some innocent person's car without the cops being involved and kill some kid. That guy. He got exactly what deserved. All cops should chase all motorcycles that run. That's how they should all end. Did he mean the ending part? It's wet. I'm not sure. He tried to run him over.

[Jimmy]

Oops.

[Tyler]

I don't have a problem with it.

[Mike]

I don't have a problem with it. And if we did more of that, they'd run less.

[Tyler]

That's for sure. They'd run when they had to. And then. You know what kind of person you're chasing now. Everybody runs, and you don't know if they're running.

[Mike]

Framing it. Dude, he's fucking.

[Tyler]

He probably ran for. For the thrill of it.

[Mike]

Not the thrill.

[Tyler]

Sorry. The views. He probably ran for the view.

[Mike]

He was streaming when he was doing that. It was cool until it wasn't. And you. Some might find out sometimes you get what you need. That's what he needed. Now he's in the hospital with I all banged up with tubes in and out of him for the. Did it for the gram.

[Jimmy]

I. I don't think that the guy that ran him over even saw him on the ground.

[Mike]

I don't think that part was. And it's wet. You know what it. Wet. I mean, it's. It. Hey, you see me go liberal. I'm conservative on this one. Don't run from the cops.

[Tyler]

I mean, yeah, it is his fault.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

I'm not even. I'm actually on your side on this one. I'm going like, there's no way. From the elevation that he's at and the direction that he's coming in. He's looking at the bike. I mean, we're just talking about positive and negative space. He's looking at the bike. He probably didn't even see that guy on the ground. Ground.

[Mike]

I don't care, I don't care about that part. Like all that that happens after that I don't believe is intentional. Once it's not intentional, I don't care if he gets run over.

[Jimmy]

So if there's no intention, there's no.

[Mike]

Crime in that case?

[Tyler]

No, no. And most, and most, in most crimes, intention has to be shown.

[Mike]

Yeah. Like vehicular, like. Yes. But in this case, in this case, it's still active there, there's. Ground's wet. He doesn't. I'm, I don't give a.

[Tyler]

It looks like he turned into him, to be honest.

[Mike]

I mean, he's protecting him from other cars hitting them. So he was, he was going the slowest.

[Jimmy]

So if, Go ahead. If you're James Comey or. Oh, I mean, Hillary Clinton, by the way. None of us, none of us are planning to kill ourselves. Just in case. Just in case. So if you're Hillary Clinton and you send out top secret emails, but James Comey says you didn't mean to break the law, there's no law.

[Tyler]

Program 10 is one of them.

[Jimmy]

Make sure you guys say that you're not going to kill yourself.

[Mike]

That's a little different.

[Tyler]

But I mean, it's like my son. Oh, I didn't mean to go on my iPad when I was grounded. Like, oh, man. Okay. Well, if you didn't mean to, bud, then yeah, sure, yeah.

[Mike]

There's times when negligence, maybe with the George Floyd dui.

[Tyler]

DUI is one of the ones that you don't need intent.

[Mike]

Obviously most people don't apply intent because you're drunk, you're guilty. But like, you know, like distracted driving, you're not intending to kill anybody.

[Tyler]

But you drive off the road is a good one.

[Mike]

Yeah. You drive off the road texting, you didn't mean it. There was one, speaking of porn, the other day, there was one in a semi. The guy is on his semi dash cam watching porn on his phone and smokes some dude and kills him. And he's like sitting in the truck like, oh, God, like real. And they went back and on his cell phone, he's literally watching porn, driving a semi down the road and kill some dude.

[Tyler]

And it was on camera.

[Mike]

It was on his inside camera in this. In his.

[Tyler]

Oh, so you couldn't see the porn, but it was. You could see. You could hear it.

[Jimmy]

You could.

[Mike]

Yeah, he was definitely. He was scrolling porn on his phone and killed somebody. So he didn't intend to kill somebody.

[Tyler]

Holy.

[Mike]

But he's guilty of a crime.

[Tyler]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mike]

In this case, that again, that dude's running. And there's the complete liberal side of we shouldn't chase anybody and people are gonna die. And then there's a side of it like this. Like, Arkansas State Patrol is bananas. They chase everything. 130 mile pits. Georgia State Patrol FHP's gotten that.

[Jimmy]

So where do you stand, Mike?

[Mike]

I am 100 behind. I believe in it. But here, here's my caveat. I said this for a long time before your best friend, Rob o' Neill, killed Osama bin Laden.

[Jimmy]

My best friend.

[Mike]

Your best friend. Before your best friend killed Osama bin Laden. I used to say the, the cops could be chasing Osama bin Laden and could probably run a red light and kill my family. I'm not gonna be okay with it. Although he needed to be chased, but I'm never gonna be okay.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you're right. Because if it's not your family, you're like, well, that's just. Personally, the bad guy caused it.

[Mike]

Correct. So I'm never gonna be okay with it. Having said that, I believe criminals should go to jail. And I believe if you run from the cops, you should be chased. So that's kind of like the risk you take, like by having that mentality that I know that I may be the victim of a T bone accident from a pursuit. My family may be the victim.

[Tyler]

You'll be rich. They'll. Or they'll be rich.

[Mike]

But you. When we allow them to run from the cop, like the street takeovers, we should just plow through those things. They should get semi trucks. Like, what was that movie in the desert with the Mad Max?

[Tyler]

Mad Max.

[Mike]

Yeah, we should get Mad Max semis. And when them guys start doing the. We should just run right through and just plow them cars.

[Jimmy]

So I mean, I, I in Tampa, like, that's totally okay, but the way.

[Mike]

I like, I love it.

[Jimmy]

Tampa. Tampa. Like if you're on 275 and people try to take over 275.

[Mike]

FHP, that does it though, right? I know it's not Tampa PD.

[Jimmy]

No, no. TPD's TPD's garbage. TPD is garbage.

[Mike]

Ruth Kate, I believe, is in charge. Tpd.

[Jimmy]

If, if you work for TPD and your last name is Smith, you are.

[Mike]

Scum, sick And I got Ruth Kate, who is, I believe, the acting chief of Tampa. I think I got her twice with no mags in or mags upside down.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that, that, that. Like, I mean, my, my. Here's my biggest. I'm gonna go off on a tangent.

[Mike]

Go, go.

[Jimmy]

Here's my biggest problem with tpd.

[Mike]

Tyler.

[Jimmy]

Bring me that monster tpd, like your srt, your special Reaction team or whatever the you call it. Why do you spend money on HK416s and suppressors? And, and what's. What's that? The. The staccatos. Why are you spending money on those?

[Mike]

You see my episode.

[Jimmy]

I did see your episode.

[Mike]

My agency went with $85,000 worth of staccatos for.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, 25 guys with. With your. Your. Your surefire cans and your HK416s and your staccatos and your multi cam. What are you blending in with, the palmetto bush? Get the out of here.

[Mike]

And. And obviously training is important. Having a reliable firearm is important.

[Jimmy]

I can. I can build you a reliable AR15 in Tampa. I can bring you the guy who, who will build you 25 reliable ARs that you can put a can on for a quarter of the price of an HK416. Go fuck yourself.

[Mike]

And that's. I agree. And that's where, just like the military, the government, it's who's in bed with who. Because our agency, when we. When we went away from the sig, our agency had a range day where they had five manufacturers come out, they took random people out, everybody shot them. Well, actually, I think they sent most of the agency out. They rated the gun one through five.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

The number one gun that was available that was rated by the AG was the M&P 2.0.

[Jimmy]

That's a good gun.

[Mike]

The number five rated gun was the FN 509.

[Jimmy]

It looks sick, but it's not a great gun.

[Mike]

Guess which one they went with?

[Jimmy]

509.

[Mike]

They went with FFO 509. Come to find out, the deputy chief.

[Jimmy]

Of one of the divisions, he liked Sam Kennedy.

[Mike]

He's in bed with the 509 rep. And then the M P guys, it was like, 25 difference MMP. The MMP guys said if we would have got a chance to match that offer, like one phone call, we would have given you that gun at that price. And then you have an entire agency that voted massively in favor of a gun. The agency goes, oh, look, we're. We're gonna have you guys pick a gun. Then they all pick it and they go, oh, we're not going to go with the one you picked. Not only not gonna go with it, we're not going to go with two, three, or four. We're gonna go with number five.

[Jimmy]

I. I.

[Tyler]

The way.

[Mike]

Oh, got news.

[Tyler]

A little bit of news.

[Mike]

I gotta go to the bathroom for it.

[Jimmy]

All right, go, go. Can I finish before you go? Okay. And so here's my issue. The. The guys in Tampa that. Not all of them, but quite a few of you that are on the special, the SRT or the SWAT team, whatever it is, you wear all of these accoutrements of a warrior. You have all of the gear of an operator, and you take all of your pictures with your blacked out bar across your eyes. You're not a fucking operator. You're not even close to an operator. You're not even close to what me and Tyler and Mike did. You are a poser. I guarantee you I'll have a gunfight with you any day of the week on the range. On the range. And I'll win.

[Tyler]

You mean like a shooting.

[Jimmy]

Yes, I. I will have a shooting competition with you on the range, and I'll win.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

They're pretty well trained.

[Jimmy]

I. I'll put my. I.

[Tyler]

You're missing it. Jimmy's calling out Tampa swat.

[Jimmy]

I. I'm. I'm call. I'll.

[Mike]

I'll figure out how you got news in the bathroom.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I want to know how you got news in the bathroom.

[Mike]

How did you develop news in the bathroom? So.

[Jimmy]

So.

[Tyler]

So I want to let him finish cooking.

[Mike]

We were already on that. So I cooked their chief, too.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, he cooked their chief, too. So Tampa swat, like, I'll go out to the range with you, pick your. Pick your most badass chick, because I know your best shooter is a chick. I know your best shooter's a chick.

[Mike]

We're not going to Tampa anytime soon. Oh, Jesus.

[Tyler]

They're gonna come to the live show.

[Jimmy]

And beat you up. Yeah, they might come to the live show and beat me.

[Mike]

I. For controversy.

[Tyler]

They'll pull us over on the way there.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, they may. I. I got beef with Tampa pd.

[Mike]

I hear it.

[Jimmy]

I got no beef. I got no beef with pcso. I got no beef with hcso.

[Mike]

I beef with.

[Tyler]

Ooh, you got beef with everybody.

[Jimmy]

You do have people.

[Tyler]

All right, anyways, the news.

[Mike]

Here's the news.

[Tyler]

Really touched upon this with you, but I believe we, Heather, may have actually cracked two baller busters.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you told me.

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

No. Yeah, you can't Say it.

[Tyler]

I can't say it. In unrelated news, Nikki, MGTV is in town today and he's been in town all week. And. And he wasn't able to make Monday's show and then he wasn't able to make tonight's show. He said he had some other plans.

[Jimmy]

But even though we talked to him on the phone.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I talked to him for about an hour, but he unfortunately didn't. He's unable to come sit with the Anti Hero guys. The edit. That's unfortunate. Unfortunate. Totally unrelated news to the Baller Buster account.

[Jimmy]

Totally unrelated. So I'll let him come to me.

[Tyler]

So. Although there might not be enough to stand out, so I might not cover.

[Jimmy]

By the way, Ballerbuster's been in my wife's dms.

[Mike]

I don't think so.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I could. I. I can legit.

[Mike]

No, no, no.

[Tyler]

He's saying. Oh, Oh.

[Jimmy]

I was gonna say, like. No, that.

[Mike]

So he was in Orlando and he didn't come see us. That sucks. Here clips us.

[Tyler]

He post us the center of attention. I got you at least 250,000 views. You could at least come say hi, man.

[Jimmy]

I. I wanted to meet him. I mean, like, he seems like a cool dude. He's interested him up.

[Mike]

What branch was he in?

[Jimmy]

He was in the Navy.

[Tyler]

He's still in the Navy.

[Jimmy]

Oh, he's still in. He's still in, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

[Mike]

Maybe.

[Tyler]

All right, babe, I'm done anyways.

[Jimmy]

My wife just telling me to shut up. We do have one super chat.

[Tyler]

It's Kevin from Guys on Ground.

[Jimmy]

Guys on the ground. $5 I gun in Afghanistan with a mark 19. 240. What B is bravo.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

Pen flares and a half size rip. It's Jimmy.

[Tyler]

Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

That.

[Mike]

That's.

[Jimmy]

That's. That's my dog. That's my dog. That's Kevin. He's a badass.

[Tyler]

All right, I think we got a couple more Instagram videos from the Suck of Free Sunday account in Anti Hero. These are the. This is God damn. Oh, we already hit that one. No, not that one. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Oh, this is a good one right here.

[Mike]

I was talking about that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, let's watch this one to your dad.

[Mike]

Me and your dad were talking about that.

[Tyler]

He's in your dad's DMS.

[Jimmy]

No, him and my dad had a 20 minute conversation.

[Mike]

We got here today and I brought this video up.

[Tyler]

All right, so again, I don't know what's AI. I've never seen the 1959 version of this, but this one's pretty. I mean, again with the world of AI you don't know what's real, what's not. Said that the assassin was the driver in the car in which he was.

[Mike]

Riding in Dallas on that day. And it was plainly visible in a.

[Jimmy]

Film withheld from the public.

[Tyler]

Now, you brought that film with you. Let's take a look at that if we can. Okay, here's the film.

[Mike]

Go ahead and narrate this for us, will you? Well, it took me 16 years to find this film because it has really been withheld. And what you're seeing here is the motorcade on Elm street passing in front of the Book Depository building. Kennedy has been shot in the throat and Jacqueline is pulling him toward her.

[Tyler]

Trying to comfort him.

[Mike]

And she's in shock. At this time, you see the driver turn around with a pistol in his left hand, firing over his right shoulder and shoots the President directly in the head. Repeat of it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

The weapon. Watch the driver. His name is William Greer. He was in fact a secret Service agent. The weapon is a. An electrically operated gas powered assassination pistol built, built especially for the Central Intelligence Agency.

[Tyler]

You don't see any puff of smoke, anything from.

[Mike]

That's correct. Because you think is a pistol there.

[Tyler]

In the right hand corner. Lower right hand corner.

[Mike]

That's correct. It is. Well, it's a. It's an air operated pistol. Pistol. It's pneumatic and it actually fired an exploding pellet which injected shellfish toxin into the President's brain, so that if the actual explosion of the pellet itself did not kill him, the toxin would.

[Jimmy]

Now, did you read all of this in the documents?

[Mike]

Yes. And that's why his brain was switched for another brain in transit between Parkland Hospital in Dallas and Bethesda Naval.

[Tyler]

All right, so first off. First off, has anybody ever seen footage like this or.

[Jimmy]

I've seen it before.

[Tyler]

So this is the original footage.

[Mike]

So video you and your dad were talking about? Yeah. There's another one out there, very similar, that talks about the tree in the background disappearing.

[Jimmy]

That's the one I was taught.

[Mike]

Okay. This was different.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

I never heard the shellfish pedal.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, dude, you lost me at exploding shellfish pellets. I'm so sorry.

[Mike]

Yeah, it was tough.

[Tyler]

I think that's. Do you think that video is fabricated?

[Jimmy]

I don't think the video is fabricated.

[Mike]

I think at this point your brain will see anything like that you're being narrated to. See like the moon.

[Jimmy]

Let me ask You a question because you talked about sympathetic reaction. First of all, when I was trained to drive for the Department of State, we were taught drivers drive. You don't do anything else. You don't turn around, you don't do anything.

[Mike]

That is strange. You're right. His job is to make sure nothing is ahead.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Mike]

Never should look back.

[Jimmy]

You shouldn't do anything but drive.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Jimmy]

Okay. And that goes way back.

[Tyler]

True.

[Jimmy]

That is true.

[Tyler]

That's driving 101.

[Jimmy]

When you drivers drive, you don't do anything else you don't do.

[Tyler]

You have gunners. You have.

[Mike]

I went through all the training as well. I went, yeah, driver drives.

[Jimmy]

That's.

[Mike]

You're ready to.

[Jimmy]

You're not talking on the radio. You're not pulling a gun. You're already know what.

[Tyler]

You have a new, you have a new contingency.

[Mike]

Not only are you doing all that, you're watching for cars do anything.

[Jimmy]

And if you're in a convoy. So I mean, this is what Kennedy was assassinated in 64, 65, in the 60s. Okay. Let's just call it the 60s. All right. In 2019. The way that it worked was you were a convoy. You were in a convoy. Normally your vehicles in the middle of the convoy, right. If you get engaged, right. As soon as you get engaged, if the, if the lead vehicle doesn't see you get engaged, you will move out of the line of travel. And then they know like, hey, you're moving out of the line of travel. That means that you're engaged. And so if I move left, that means I'm taking contact right. If I move right, I'm taking contact left. And then that vehicle, the lead vehicle will pull in front of you and, and the rear vehicle will pull up and block from the, the direction of contact. So if I move right, that means contact left.

[Tyler]

I, I, I get all. It's a great argument, but it's a great argument.

[Jimmy]

So this guy is turning around.

[Mike]

Yeah. I don't understand.

[Jimmy]

I, I don't understand.

[Tyler]

I know for a fact in the original video whether or not there's a clear black rectangular thing that's. Somebody said in the comments we need to compare both. Unfortunately, I do not not feel like going back and doing all that, but it is. The driver definitely did turn around.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, he definitely in the original video.

[Mike]

But look, and look, that's. We have one video. We have like literally one video of that. And how many conspiracy theories do we have? Look at the Charlie Kirk one. We got like 40 views of that. And now you got like 800 I think your brain just makes you. It just goes, man, I honestly think.

[Tyler]

I could shoot Mike dead right now on camera, and there'd be like a million likes it. No, that'd be if you shot me.

[Mike]

Oh, okay. Jimmy. Jimmy's waving the gun around.

[Jimmy]

There'd be a lot of, like.

[Mike]

There'd be at least one. Like out of Daytona.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Daytona.

[Mike]

Right out of the insurance office.

[Tyler]

Oh, how progressive have you, Mike?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but I mean, like, not like.

[Tyler]

You'Re on to something.

[Jimmy]

I think. I think that any time we're dealing with something that is world changing, I think it's a natural American. American reaction to question what the government says.

[Tyler]

I mean, you know, we.

[Mike]

We always question.

[Tyler]

We all agree that it was a CIA that killed him, right?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Yes. I mean, everybody's kind of in agreement.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

So now, because most of the general population does believe that now that opens the door for every 911 is way. It's like divided in the middle.

[Jimmy]

I.

[Mike]

But opens a door that they're capable of doing.

[Jimmy]

I mean, let me. I can. I can give you my. My read on 9 11. I absolutely believe that the bad guys did it. And I absolutely believe that the government knew that it was coming and that people in certain governments who I can't name because for some reason I won't. I will be canceled in UN American if I name this specific government that is not part of the United States but is in the Middle east and is not a Muslim country. Suppressed intelligence is Israel. I didn't say that. Did you say that?

[Mike]

I saw one today that said two planes or two buildings and five Israelis.

[Jimmy]

I think that van. I. If you.

[Tyler]

Let me.

[Jimmy]

Let me. Let me just put it like this. If you look at what has happened, who. Who has stood to gain the most from September 11? The Military Industrial complex and another country.

[Mike]

You're gonna get me canceled?

[Tyler]

Why?

[Mike]

Because my entire algorithm is going down this rabbit hole?

[Tyler]

No, no, I didn't say.

[Mike]

Anyway, there's two. Two.

[Tyler]

It's true. I get videos.

[Jimmy]

I get them too. But.

[Mike]

But my point one, I don't even know if I'm allowed to say dude, but. But they banned the juice box emoji from one platform.

[Tyler]

Wait, what?

[Mike]

Yes. The.

[Jimmy]

What?

[Tyler]

Did I hear that right?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tyler]

The abandoned juice.

[Mike]

They banned the ju. There's a juice box emoji.

[Tyler]

Oh, I thought you made a juju. Sorry.

[Mike]

No, I was saying that. Well, it's. That's what people are using it to say.

[Tyler]

What?

[Jimmy]

The juice box. Juice box. Come on.

[Mike]

One of the saw Headlines I was scrolling today that said such and such platform banned that emoji because instead of.

[Jimmy]

Saying, oh, people were using the juice, dude, the, the. The military industrial complex, it had.

[Mike]

Somebody said, we're walking a tough line. You have too much to live for.

[Jimmy]

None of us are going to commit suicide.

[Mike]

I did not. Yes, I will never kill myself. So.

[Jimmy]

But I, I think when we're talking about jfk, I mean, we can. Could absolutely look at who stood to gain the most from his death. Why would you not look at that? If you were. If you're a cop, would you not ask that question?

[Tyler]

No. And on a street, we would just. We would. Motives really isn't a street level thing. That's more of it. I mean, you did some homicide work, right? Yeah. So, I mean, at that point, you're like, you're looking at who's the prime suspect. We'll start ruling people out, right?

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, I worked. I worked one.

[Tyler]

Would you rule out Erica Kirk?

[Mike]

So I worked one more of the unfortunate case.

[Jimmy]

I don't even want to say seems.

[Mike]

Very happy about it. I had a. It ended up being a homicide. Missing female for about five years, then found dead and married. So of course, everybody says the husband did it. And that's when you get into that kind of stuff. Like obviously Charlie Kirk, his wife. And being involved is a big conspiracy stretch that is being put on the Internet. But yes, in most cases, the first suspect is. Is the closest person to that person, especially married couple. One of the people ends up dead, the other one is usually the suspect. I mean, we've had it where like, what was it, Scott Peterson?

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You know, all the way to the chick that hired somebody to kill. Yeah. That famous video in, like, Boca where she hired. Yeah. She shows up crying. Oh, my God. So we've seen so many extremes, but. Yeah. And one of the hardest things as a homicide investigator is questioning a grieving family member or spouse when it's suspicious. You're like, you have to ask these questions, but it's. It's a tough job. That part of the job is very.

[Jimmy]

Tough because you have to be Dalia Dipolito.

[Mike]

Yes. Yep. You have to be very careful about how you ask questions and how if you insinuate guilt, but at the same time, you're working a homicide investigation and it's like, you know, I mean, every suicide is a homicide. Every suicide is a homicide investigation until it's not. So it's those questions of asking family members when you have a guy shot himself in a bedroom but it's like you still have to ask the difficult questions. Where were you? What was the. What was. Where were you at? Where can we verify you were there? Like, those questions suck to ask a. A grieving person, but you still have. You have to ask them. So that is one of the worst parts of being a homicide investigator.

[Jimmy]

I wonder what RFK Jr would say since there are so many Kennedies. That was a great joke, by the way. Did you know that when we did that trt, when he was like, what the you trying to say about me?

[Tyler]

Brother lost his voice.

[Jimmy]

But I wonder what RFK would say about what. How many of his family members were killed mysteriously?

[Tyler]

Kennedy's. I mean, there's a punk band called the Dead Kennedys.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. I mean, so Robbie Kennedy, John F. Kennedy.

[Tyler]

His security team is probably stacked.

[Jimmy]

I would hope so. I. I hope it's. I hope it's.

[Tyler]

You got to spend like half your income on security.

[Jimmy]

I. I hope it's. Can I say this? I hope it's the Delta Force. I hope it's the Delta Force protecting him.

[Tyler]

Probably.

[Jimmy]

I. I would hope so at this point today.

[Tyler]

Wow. What's up?

[Mike]

I'm going on the record that the New York Football Giants are back. Really?

[Jimmy]

Do they win?

[Mike]

They're. They're playing well.

[Jimmy]

They are winning.

[Mike]

2017. Jackson Dart is the real deal. Scat is the real deal. We still have a shitty team, but the New York football. All hail the New York Giants. The Giants are back. Write it down.

[Jimmy]

Do you like. Do you like Russell Wilson? Yeah.

[Mike]

No, he's terrible.

[Jimmy]

I. I think he's the fakest.

[Mike]

He's terrible. He had a couple good years, but he. He suffers by one of the worst play calls in NFL history. When.

[Jimmy]

When Marshawn lynch didn't run.

[Mike]

They should have look at Scat go. So. Yes. The Giants are back. New York Football Giants. Sal, I'm gonna see you in a week. A little over a week. Oh, by the way, let's not forget to plug that. October 18th, we're in Philadelphia.

[Tyler]

Oh, Philly.

[Mike]

We're going to Philly. We're going to Philly with a win tonight. Maybe we're coming to Philly with a win for you.

[Tyler]

Wear Giant shirts If.

[Mike]

If they win, Sal is going to meet me in a. I am going to wear Giants jersey to meet south for the first time. So you better hope the Eagles come back. You better hope. Unfortunately, they're out of town or I'd go to a game. Both teams were out of town that week. The Eagles and The Giants. We're going to be in Philly October 18th.

[Tyler]

Is Sal coming to Phil? Really?

[Mike]

No, I'm gonna go see him. Oh, he's can't really do all that. He's got his.

[Jimmy]

He's a criminal. I was gonna say he's got.

[Mike]

Yeah, he's like, I don't even know we're allowed to hang out with him. He's like.

[Jimmy]

He doesn't even know I exist, and I'm rooting for him.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So we got a super chat.

[Jimmy]

What we did from Gordo Bombera. $10. I sent y' all a package. Hopefully y' all got it. Those are 100 handmade in the center of Texas hand cut.

[Mike]

We are going to show it Therefore.

[Jimmy]

G19 with light and optic. Keep up the good work.

[Mike]

Yes. So don't forget Philly, October 18th. If anybody's up in that area, contact. It's on the Cobble page. It's on the anti hero page, on the counterculture page. We are doing an event in North Philly and the Bethlehem area charity event. So I was contacted by one. One of our followers. Liz mentioned she was wanting to donate. So as it gets closer, if anybody wants to donate to that. That can't make. Make it. I will set up a. Something where we can take in donations and donate it that night. We appreciate you guys.

[Jimmy]

I cannot afford a plane ticket yet. So if they.

[Mike]

Oh, this trip's expensive, dude.

[Jimmy]

If. If anybody can help, I want to go, but I can't afford a plane ticket right now.

[Mike]

Oh, Sal, that was a touchdown, by the way.

[Jimmy]

Who just scored?

[Tyler]

So this is. This is from Gordo.

[Jimmy]

Gordo Bombero.

[Tyler]

So.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

All right. Handmade, handmade holsters.

[Jimmy]

This says they're for G19 with light and optic. Oh, I need a handmade. I need one of those.

[Mike]

There you go. We got one for you.

[Jimmy]

I need it. I have a Glock 19. We got one for you.

[Tyler]

Oh, I put the anti air logo on it.

[Mike]

That's awesome, dude. We thank you so much.

[Jimmy]

That's a. That's outside the waistband.

[Mike]

You're up with carry now, man. You carry.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Mike]

I can't.

[Tyler]

Oh, nice. Hell yeah, bro.

[Mike]

We got a guy with a mullet and a gun.

[Jimmy]

I don't have a mullet. You guys made fun of me enough. My wife was like, hey, do not put a hat on. Oh, this is dope.

[Mike]

Gordo. We really appreciate it, dude. Look at this. We really appreciate it.

[Jimmy]

Look at this. This is so awesome. God damn.

[Tyler]

I'm a cowboy.

[Mike]

Sal stopped answering I'm sure he having a fit right now.

[Tyler]

All right, I, I. Let me check the videos, make sure there's none before we wrap it up. I gotta get a light, stare at the screen and go, no, no.

[Mike]

All right.

[Tyler]

Up. Oh, this one. We haven't. This is the last. No, not this one. We have not broke down yet.

[Mike]

Go ahead, hit it. All right, I'm here for you.

[Jimmy]

You ready, Jimmy? I'm ready. Sit down.

[Mike]

Step back. He's not doing anything.

[Jimmy]

You're saying that. No.

[Mike]

He'S not doing anything.

[Tyler]

Good. So I want.

[Jimmy]

What.

[Mike]

Why does everybody want to send Jimmy money?

[Tyler]

Because he needs a place that he can't afford it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, I can't afford the plane.

[Mike]

Jen Moxie. Who She's a big fan. She's willing to send money. She wants to send Jimmy to Philly. You can send it to.

[Jimmy]

It's a trap.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, what you got to do.

[Tyler]

Let's break down the video first. If you think Feds do not absolutely.

[Mike]

Constitution doesn't apply.

[Tyler]

They don't. The sheriff and the chief. That's liberal in your city that lets you spit on cops when the feds roll into your town. Don't do that because they don't play by your rules. They play by a use of force matrix that's about this big. And it's. They are sent there from the president of the United States because you, Your.

[Mike]

City'S up most of the time. I, you know, I'm very liberal in these situations. That, dude, like, the feds are doing stuff. They're getting surrounded in Chicago. They don't have time to be playing around people. When he tells you to get the back, get back. Go backwards, step back.

[Jimmy]

He did not activate his dreadlock powers.

[Mike]

And I wouldn't with that dude, that.

[Jimmy]

I would look, that's. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you see a.

[Mike]

When he starts getting the gun ready. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

He started putting it around the, the back. I'm like, oh, dude, this guy's a running back and he's. He's about to go for about 25.

[Mike]

If people really want to donate and get. Are you able to go if people donate?

[Jimmy]

Yes, I can go.

[Mike]

Please. Here we're.

[Jimmy]

Please, sir, I want some more.

[Mike]

We're gonna. I mean, we can make it. It's expensive. You killed me on this trip, dude.

[Jimmy]

Dude, listen, guys, I would go to Philly. I would not ask. I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even bring it up. That's not asking.

[Mike]

It's gonna cost me like 800 bucks.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, it's, it's a, it's not cheap plane ticket room and all that is so I can't.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's. We'll get. So. Okay, I'll let you in on the four. 11 Anti Hero is going to be doing their own live show. Me, Jimmy, Mike, we are going to be doing live shows. Very in house, very blue, but what do you call that? Grassroots. We are going to boots on the ground, hit up fops, vfw. Small bars. No big productions. No, you know, it's just gonna be us, microphones and people and we are gonna do a lot of live shows. But for some reason, some cities it costs a arm and a leg to get there. I mean, just, I mean, Heather's going with me because, you know, she's my wife and she's got a podcast on that way. So this is a counterculture show. So there's going to be multiple. I think there's like four podcasts, maybe five. Total is five podcasts that are going to be there. Antihero is one of them. But you know, the counterculture shows that get put up on YouTube, there's a, you know, me, Jimmy and Mike are going to be hitting live shows. Probably keep it pretty close to circuit if you want, you know, if you want some to come, will come. But damn, bro, we'll, we'll get in a van and travel there, but we gotta, you know, we can't, we can't be paying eleven hundred dollars a person for one night.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's a rough trip. I mean, it's, I mean, that's why I'm going two nights. I'm gonna try to knock out seeing Sal. I'm actually gonna do the Ian Bick podcast on that Sunday that we're there. I don't know when that's going to air, but it's expensive because I mean.

[Tyler]

In the old days we used to go, we used to take, we get there day prior, go party, go see the city, do the show, wake up, fly out. Maybe that next day. Some guys would stay another day and site. We have to be here Thursday and we have to be here Monday. So we really don't have like Mike's literally got to get on a plane, fly back, come here at. To leave his house at 6 in the morning.

[Mike]

I don't even know if I'm going home that night. Yeah, I mean it doesn't even, it almost doesn't make sense because I'm have to get back at like 11 o'.

[Tyler]

Clock, fly to the airport, come stay at my house.

[Mike]

Two hour drive. Yeah, it's a two hour drive from my house to here.

[Jimmy]

So I mean it's a two hour drive for me too.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know it sucks. But here we are. We're here for you, not for Colin. But I mean you guys wanted. Here's this like this trip. I think it's a wall. It's, it's a hotel, all that. Yeah, yeah, we appreciate if you want to donate and we'll set up like we'll donate to somebody or somebody got killed or something. We'll donate to somebody that we'll, we'll spend our own money on our own travel. But if you guys are that willing to donate, let's donate to Turning Point USA for Charlie Kirk 100%.

[Tyler]

No, no, no, we're not going to donate to.

[Mike]

Let's donate. Okay.

[Tyler]

Let's donate to a charity that find a cop.

[Mike]

Somebody that got. That's been injured recently.

[Jimmy]

So there, there was, there was just a cop recently that I saw on IG that got shot and he had saved somebody and got shot doing it. I'll find it.

[Mike]

Yeah, let's donate to that.

[Jimmy]

Cops.

[Mike]

Let's donate to that. Something like that. We'll, we'll get ourselves, we'll get ourselves there.

[Jimmy]

There's the AC still out in here, bro.

[Mike]

Yeah, it's hot.

[Tyler]

Hot as.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, yeah, I'm working.

[Mike]

We can't fly. We can't pay the bills, man.

[Tyler]

We're, you know, I mean we can't pay the bills. The AC just. There's two ACs.

[Mike]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna break the Internet. But we talk. We talked to Brent today. We had a very nice conversation with Brent.

[Jimmy]

I wasn't even involved in that.

[Mike]

But I have all the people out there acting crazy like, oh, that's that, that, that we talk to him. Yeah, everything's cool.

[Tyler]

Yeah, great. So for all I forget that people.

[Mike]

And, and yeah, and I do too. But I thought I was going to bring it up earlier, but it's like people think like all these rumors and.

[Jimmy]

But by the way, a podcast from my buddy guys on the ground just dropped where I just talked. How about how great Brent is?

[Mike]

Jimmy, what's your email person? Not for the chat for people that you 1. You want people. But I gave out Lance Fisher's email and boy, his life went off the rails. Like it's almost like your address. No, I'll drop, I'll drop here. DM Cop Village at Copvillo G and I'll get you guys in touch with Jimmy. We'll get a business email together for Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

I've got a business email, but I mean it's a business email.

[Mike]

If you want to get in touch with Jimmy, he also has an Instagram. What's your Instagram?

[Jimmy]

Jimmy Arnett 27 Gmail.

[Mike]

Look at that.

[Jimmy]

Or at IG, whatever the it is.

[Mike]

There you go.

[Jimmy]

I don't, I just dropped it. No, you're giving it.

[Tyler]

We're just here, we're gathered, we're gathered here today to. You want my pay tribute to Jimmy who was once of the co host.

[Jimmy]

And was murdered by for an email. I don't know you guys. Dude, dude, I didn't even give it. I didn't even give the right email. It's I, he's got an Instagram. Yeah, I got an IG.

[Mike]

Okay, if you're a female, don't DM A.

[Jimmy]

Maybe I don't. My wife will murder you. Jimmy Arnett 27. Yeah, I did actually get.

[Mike]

It's got the check mark. Dude, you got the. He signed up for this. He's got the check mark. He's in the spotlight.

[Jimmy]

I, I, I went, I went all in. Yeah, I know.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

Just.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I don't know how much damage control I could do before.

[Jimmy]

No, no, no. I, I, I got a, I got a cell phone too. Like, no, I got a cell phone.

[Mike]

I'll take money from anybody.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Hey, see, you guys got to fill me in on this stuff.

[Jimmy]

I will.

[Mike]

I drive. Two hours. The power's out. Three minutes before we go, here's the problem. Can I get thrown into all this.

[Jimmy]

Heather and Lily talk?

[Tyler]

No, just.

[Jimmy]

All right, I'll be quiet.

[Mike]

The Giants are winning.

[Jimmy]

Any baseball on tonight?

[Tyler]

That's a good job.

[Mike]

We gotta play music. Yankees got eliminated.

[Jimmy]

The Yankees lose. The Yankees sometimes.

[Mike]

See, that's.

[Jimmy]

They don't have Derek.

[Mike]

There's too much drama, huh? And I'm the king of it.

[Jimmy]

I was actually trying to shout out my boy from got. From G Wat Goons.

[Mike]

Nobody tells me things.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. Weren't you saying a podcast came out? So, yeah, a podcast just dropped from my, my buddy Jeremy at G Wat Goons. It's me and him. We spent two and a half hours talking. Didn't tell a lot. Didn't tell a lot of guns. Fight stories. Told a lot of stories that are really like tug at the heartstrings. And I talked really great about Brett. I talked really great about Brent. So anybody that thinks there's issues.

[Mike]

I'm not listening anymore. My brain's in left field right now. I know it's not my fault.

[Jimmy]

Like, maybe you should get the bump of cocaine.

[Mike]

I can't keep up with everything.

[Tyler]

Periphery.

[Mike]

We need a mass group chat so I know all the answers.

[Tyler]

We have one.

[Mike]

No, I didn't get that memo. I gotta know it. I didn't get the memo.

[Jimmy]

Oh, my God. All right, what else is going on in the chat?

[Tyler]

All right, start reading the chats, baby. You want to talk to us? We will talk to you. This is the end of the show. It's hot in here. I don't know why. Why? So I think the last three Dirty deep red.

[Mike]

The last three minutes. I. Hey, I'm good.

[Jimmy]

Balling up.

[Tyler]

Throwing it at Jimmy.

[Mike]

He doesn't even know.

[Tyler]

I can't see the screen. Y' all got to read it.

[Jimmy]

Okay, start.

[Tyler]

Holy guacamole. Jimmy gonna make it.

[Jimmy]

Jim Lewis with $20. JV Team for Life.

[Mike]

Jim Lewis, super chat. JV Team for Life. Rangers lead the way. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Mike. Shut up. Mike's shutting up.

[Jimmy]

Somebody told you shut up.

[Mike]

Your wife did.

[Tyler]

All hell.

[Mike]

The New York Giants.

[Tyler]

We are a PR nightmare. We're a lawyer's nightmare. We're a publicist nightmare. We're everybody's nightmare when he's another super.

[Mike]

Chat for the Timmy flight. GoFundMe $99. We're. We're getting there.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that'll buy you peanuts on the airplane, bro. Timmy.

[Mike]

Another. Another super chat. I'm glad you like it. Entirely made while on duty in my secret leather shop inside my fire station. Gordo, Bombero. No means fat fireman. We got firemen sending us prizes. Where the cops at? You cops are cheap.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we need more firemen on the show.

[Mike]

Yeah, we do.

[Jimmy]

I. I still want. I still want Jim Neville from Philadelphia to fire department to come over.

[Tyler]

We used to be a.

[Mike]

We used to. We used to have a fireman we.

[Tyler]

Used to be affiliated with. Conduct unbecoming. Until he bitched out. What?

[Mike]

He's been texting us a lot lately.

[Tyler]

Yeah, cuz he's.

[Mike]

I want to punch him right in his mouth. Back for another Thursday night. Pulled my taint training. But we will be back after project Zins and some caffeine. All love, boys. Thank you, Tarzan. Double wide Dan. Cops are out handling calls. Go Birds. You guys are in trouble. You got injured players limping around. Giants are winning. Firemen are snuggling in their beds with each other. They're always snuggling each other.

[Tyler]

Give me what you. Your favorite song, bro. We have never dedicated a song to you.

[Jimmy]

Is my favorite song is fat lip by some 41. Okay.

[Tyler]

Got you. Yeah, That'll be a good song. That's a fun song.

[Jimmy]

That. That.

[Tyler]

That is a.

[Jimmy]

That is.

[Tyler]

That was 2002. 2001.

[Jimmy]

No, no, it's 2001 because it was on American Pie, too.

[Tyler]

Yes, right.

[Jimmy]

Like that. That was my. Like, I may. I'm a rebel I'm. I'm. I'm a punk and I'm in the army.

[Mike]

Start riding the stationary bike at the studio. I got. I need an arc trainer here. I said. I say we put a bench up here and we throw some weight up.

[Tyler]

I had bilateral shoulder surgery. I can't do bench very well.

[Mike]

Can I attend arm badge? Can I attend armed with badge up to it. Yes. Come armed. I. Dude, my legs are getting bigger. I don't care what you guys are saying. I'm on that arc trainer. I'm doing 30 minutes max. I am good to go. Dolphins to the Super Bowl. No to a Turner. Toa is not going to. Not going to get you guys there. Jackson Dart MVP.

[Jimmy]

41.

[Mike]

I don't think I've ever heard the song.

[Tyler]

I've never heard a song.

[Mike]

Never.

[Jimmy]

Really?

[Mike]

Dan.

[Tyler]

You know you have a hit when it has 157 million views, bro. 157 view? Million views.

[Jimmy]

That's awesome.

[Tyler]

That's almost a quarter of a billion views.

[Mike]

And Red man got my poly next month. Good luck on the poly. Mike is bald. Mike shaves his head.

[Jimmy]

Jimmy likes Goo Goo Dolls. You're not wrong. I liked Goo Goo Dolls when I was in the 90s. Sure did. So did everybody else. And every chick that was down now.

[Mike]

Google dolls suck. Jimmy has an old soul and good taste in music. Yes, he does.

[Jimmy]

Jimmy's a great dude.

[Mike]

Great, great addition to the show. He's like the voice of reason, too.

[Jimmy]

Well, somebody's got a balance.

[Mike]

I'm the one running my mouth, getting yelled at.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but I mean, I mean, it works out good because, I mean, like, I can't hear you. Yeah, dude, it works out good because, I mean, like, you are the. You are the. The passionate heart and soul. Tyler is the everybody. And I have the logical brain, you know, we're recording my calculation.

[Mike]

I'm the one left out. I just. I just. Hey, what's on the screen? I don't know any of that stuff. There's only one person I want to kill. There's only one.

[Tyler]

Do I know who it is. Yeah.

[Mike]

You know who it is? We can set a.

[Tyler]

It's going to be used in your trial later.

[Mike]

We can, we can set a cage up right here.

[Jimmy]

Did you like the Crown Vic or the SUV better?

[Mike]

I mean, the cool thing about the Crown Vic. Look at the giants. Cool thing about the Crown Vic was you could go over railroad tracks at 80 miles an hour. The bad part of the railroad tracks and the car just kept going. I mean, I ripped radiators off that thing. You could run it in the thing. It was just fast enough to keep up. SUV started getting kind of wobbly and.

[Tyler]

Then Tahoes, well, they got. The reason why SUVs are, are better now is because we, we don't pursue anymore. They're not good for pursuit. Crown Vicks are like boats on the road. Interceptors, yes, they are good. Good for pursuits, but because we don't pursue anymore, why we don't need it. We use that for.

[Mike]

The Charger's good for it. The char, the Charger.

[Tyler]

I've never had a police.

[Mike]

I had a char. Yeah, I had one. I got the 2013.

[Jimmy]

I got I, the, the, the late 2000s Impalas. I saw a lot of those too, yo.

[Mike]

Bubble Chevys back in the day.

[Tyler]

I mean, go check out Don Mizzo's Nuke Real.

[Mike]

Yeah, but don't forget Dom Mizzo is a big support of the show. He drops good reels. His last one was pretty good.

[Tyler]

He's on counterculture.

[Mike]

He is Domino's. Part of Counterculture, part of the team. What's anywhere I'm not allowed to talk? I'm just gonna sit here next week.

[Jimmy]

Hey, hey, hey, Alpha Sheepdog. If you're. If you're listening. H E E R. Go Google it, you idiot.

[Tyler]

You.

[Jimmy]

You're an idiot.

[Tyler]

What do you say?

[Mike]

I thought he was the level headed guy.

[Tyler]

Yeah, he's yelling. I'm logical.

[Jimmy]

But I also have. I, I, I have to have my, my moments. Like I.

[Tyler]

You gotta let it out, man.

[Mike]

Let me. Yeah, you don't want. If I was sheriff, there'd be goons only. We'd get rid of half the programs. All that dumb they do.

[Jimmy]

I also like song two by Blur.

[Mike]

I posted one the other day. Instead of coffee with a cop. Now it's calories with a cop because they're all fat.

[Jimmy]

If you like song two, be like Blur, another one. I like that song.

[Mike]

Don't tell me the Jackson Dart is hurt.

[Jimmy]

Jesus, don't be hurt. Jackson dart. Come on, man.

[Tyler]

I don't pay for YouTube oh, yeah, and it's only two minutes long. Starship Troopers. Yes.

[Jimmy]

Thank God somebody knows.

[Tyler]

That was in the trailer.

[Jimmy]

Yes, it was.

[Mike]

You'll pay for Apple music, Music or anything?

[Tyler]

No, my wife does.

[Mike]

I have it.

[Jimmy]

I thought you were on the Spotify plan.

[Tyler]

No, you are. Oh, I don't use Spotify and I had an. They gave me a free.

[Mike]

You know, I do like Paul Wall and actually.

[Jimmy]

Hey, hey.

[Mike]

My partner right here, Paul.

[Tyler]

And he's on the wall.

[Jimmy]

Hang on. Hey, hey. Ceasefire. Jah. Bottom of the chat. You were in first bat and second bat. You were in the a chat for TRT last night. We dropped off right before you left.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah. Get in.

[Jimmy]

You need to get in touch with us right now. Get in touch with us right now.

[Mike]

You want his email?

[Jimmy]

Get. Give us your email. Dude, I. I told you I would find you.

[Mike]

He found you.

[Jimmy]

Well, I told him. I was like, I'll see you in the chat. Cuz I know you're always in the chat. Go yourself.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Mike]

Go it. He's always in the chat.

[Jimmy]

He is always in the chat.

[Mike]

He's loyal. Where's Brent?

[Tyler]

Where is.

[Mike]

Is there.

[Jimmy]

Hey.

[Tyler]

Hey.

[Mike]

Brett's not here.

[Jimmy]

I. I mean, I mean, where, where, where, where in the world is.

[Mike]

I hope Jackson D's not really hurt.

[Jimmy]

That can't be right. Is it. Is it just Proto?

[Mike]

No, I saw Russell Wilson warming up.

[Tyler]

All right, that's it for the show, guys.

[Mike]

We appreciate it. Monday at 11.

[Tyler]

Monday at 11.

[Mike]

11.

[Tyler]

11 o' clock broadcast. Big format. Good times. I think we have a guest.

[Mike]

Yeah, we do. We have. We have a former police deputy chief of an agency here in Florida that has a wild story about how he was let go and now he's taking the fight back to the government by exposing police corruption. Tune in Monday to see who that is. 11am and then Thursday.

[Jimmy]

Sergeant Major Major Bass, my old first arm.

[Mike]

Here come the guest. Anti hero is not dead yet, buddy. Here we come.

[Jimmy]

Sergeant Major Bass is coming in.

[Mike]

Jackson darts running up.

[Tyler]

All right, thanks, guys.