Squadcast (Live)

Summary

The Antihero Podcast - Squadcast (Live) Summary

Release Date: April 18, 2025

Hosts:

• Tyler
• Brent
• Drew

Guest:

• Steve Murphy – The original narcotics officer involved in the takedown of Pablo Escobar.

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1. Introduction and Guest Highlight

The episode kicks off with Tyler enthusiastically introducing the live Squadcast, emphasizing the camaraderie among the hosts. He welcomes Steve Murphy, highlighting his pivotal role in dismantling Pablo Escobar's operations.

Tyler [00:01]: "We've got Steve Murphy, the original narco that took down Pablo Escobar... Hit it, Drew."

Brent and Tyler engage in light-hearted banter about Kelly from Oklahoma, setting a friendly and relaxed tone for the discussion.

2. Florida State Shooting Incident

The hosts delve into a recent tragic event—a shooting in Florida involving a female Miami police officer who fatally shot her partner. They express frustration over the lack of accountability and the minimal media coverage.

Tyler [02:49]: "Really? I mean, there's obviously the Florida State shooting that's happened today... The shooter is the son of a sheriff's deputy."

They analyze the incident, noting that the shooter is now in custody and discuss the impact of body-worn cameras revealing the event.

3. Mental Health in Law Enforcement

A significant portion of the conversation centers on the mental health crisis among law enforcement officers. The hosts critique the ongoing emphasis on mental health support, arguing that resilience and suppression of emotions are more effective.

Brent [08:39]: "If you want to go and live in a teepee and walk the walk and talk the talk, then please go."

Steve Murphy reinforces the idea that officers should focus on moving forward despite hardships, sharing personal anecdotes about his family's approach to life's challenges.

4. Active Shooter Response and Protocols

The discussion shifts to active shooter situations, with Brent and Steve emphasizing the bravery of officers who engage in gunfights to protect civilians. They argue against the notion that active shooters are cowardly, instead viewing them as individuals seeking notoriety.

Steve Murphy [05:00]: "Absolutely. And that's what makes them heroes... exactly what you just saw in that video."

5. Gang Violence and Community Policing

The hosts explore the dynamics of gang violence, particularly the differences between "old hood" and "new hood" areas. They highlight how traditional communities manage crime internally, whereas newer areas suffer from higher crime rates due to lack of organized control.

Brent [12:36]: "That's what irritates me about that. Well, you just said it is always true, right?"

Steve Murphy adds that a small percentage of residents in Section 8 housing are responsible for disproportionate violence, emphasizing the challenges in community policing.

6. Cartel Dynamics and the War on Drugs

Steve Murphy shares insights from his experience combating Mexican cartels, stressing the complexities of cartel hierarchies and their reluctance to cooperate. The hosts discuss the futility of certain government strategies and the need for more effective measures.

Steve Murphy [16:55]: "But if they divided the territories and shared... How could we stop that?"

7. Space Girls Segment

The "Space Girls" segment features a critique of individuals who went to space without proper qualifications, possibly referencing space tourists or non-professional astronauts. The hosts debate whether these individuals deserve the title of "astronauts," emphasizing the rigorous training and missions true astronauts undergo.

Brent [46:20]: "They didn't pilot anything... they were just passengers in a vessel."

8. Listener Interactions and Super Chats

Throughout the podcast, the hosts engage with listeners through Super Chats, addressing various questions and comments. Topics range from opinions on drug legalization to hypothetical scenarios like fighting orangutans with swords versus fighting chickens.

Drew [84:24]: "Would you rather fight a bear alone in the woods or get pulled over by a female cop?"

9. Movie and Media Discussions

The hosts critique portrayals of law enforcement and military operations in media, such as the accuracy of Netflix's "Narcos" series and movies like "Ender's Game" and "Act of Valor." Steve Murphy provides a nuanced perspective on how much of these depictions are grounded in reality.

Steve Murphy [108:05]: "The first third, those events happen. The second third, those events happen, but they've been either events combined or they've been greatly dramatized... The last third is just straight up make believe Hollywood."

10. Controversial Topics and Unfiltered Opinions

The podcast doesn't shy away from contentious issues. Brent responds to listener criticism regarding comments about Native Americans, defending the original remarks while acknowledging differing perspectives. The hosts also express skepticism towards mainstream narratives on mental health and drug legalization.

Brent [62:07]: "Mike, thank you for your email and I always love hearing from our listeners... I'm not always right."

11. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode winds down, the hosts reflect on the day’s discussions, reiterate their commitment to presenting unfiltered truths, and tease upcoming content. They maintain a balance between serious discourse and irreverent humor, ensuring an engaging finale for their audience.

Steve Murphy [115:16]: "You cannot train an orangutan to fight with a sword."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tyler [00:01]: "It's Thursday night. It's the squad cast. Thursdays for the boys... Hit it, Drew."
• Brent [05:00]: "That's what makes them heroes."
• Steve Murphy [16:55]: "But if they divided the territories and shared... How could we stop that?"
• Brent [46:20]: "They didn't pilot anything... they were just passengers in a vessel."
• Steve Murphy [108:05]: "The first third, those events happen... The last third is just straight up make believe Hollywood."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Antihero Podcast delivers a raw and unfiltered examination of law enforcement challenges, mental health issues, gang violence, and the ongoing battle against drug cartels. Through the expertise of Steve Murphy and the dynamic interplay among the hosts, listeners gain a multifaceted perspective on these pressing societal issues. The blend of serious analysis with candid humor ensures that the content remains both informative and entertaining for a diverse audience.

Transcript

[Tyler]

It's Thursday night. It's the squad cast. Thursdays for the boys. We got a hell of a show, a lot to cover. We've got Steve Murphy, the original narco that took down Pablo Escobar. We got a bunch of people in the studio. We're gonna cover things like space girls, the Florida. The Florida shooting, the Miami female cop that shot her partner and doesn't want to be held accountable for it. All that more on the Thursday night squad cast. Hit it, Drew.

[Brent]

Let's go. Trump dance.

[Tyler]

Full house tonight. Thank you, Magnet, for showing up. Thank you. Kelly from Oklahoma, who's here on vacation, decided to stop by the studio, hang out with us. Thanks to Drew, as always, for producing. Thanks.

[Brent]

Kelly's kind of hot.

[Tyler]

He is. But it's a dude.

[Brent]

I know. I was gonna let him do one.

[Tyler]

Of those rare dudes named Kelly.

[Brent]

Just another dude.

[Steve Murphy]

I told you, man. These guys are making me nervous.

[Tyler]

And if you guys haven't seen it already, this isn't Steve Murph Murphy's first time on the entire podcast. I forget what number it was, but you came on maybe a couple months ago.

[Brent]

I just looked it up.

[Steve Murphy]

It was. Did you.

[Brent]

Do you remember the. The episode number?

[Steve Murphy]

No.

[Brent]

I'll let you know.

[Steve Murphy]

But I don't remember how to get home.

[Tyler]

How many, how many, how much. How much time did you spend down there looking where? We kind of sum it up.

[Steve Murphy]

Three years in Colombia.

[Tyler]

Three years in Colombia searching for the. Pablo Escobar episode 107. There you go.

[Brent]

You can hear the story about how Steve Murphy single handedly brought down with.

[Tyler]

His own sniper shot the world's notorious drug dealer. Call me Tim.

[Drew]

There I was.

[Brent]

Got him. Sorry. You apologize about nothing. That couldn't have been any more appropriate.

[Steve Murphy]

All right.

[Tyler]

Really? I mean, there's obviously the. The Florida State shooting that's happened today. That really. There hasn't been any updates since the last time I checked.

[Brent]

I heard about it when you told me about it.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I think there is two. Two dead, six wounded. Yeah. Shooter. Shooter is taken into custody and the shooter is the son of a sheriff's deputy. Oh, yes. That was the newest breaking news I got from world star Hip Hop. But our.

[Brent]

Our trusted news source.

[Tyler]

There's a. There's. While we're on the topic, if you want to go to the Instagram, we got a couple that, that I managed to see and save. Not that you haven't seen any. Down, down, down, down, down. Right there is one of them. That's him walking right there. He sees Some students, he starts taking shots at them. That' one and the next one isn't very long at all. It's only a couple seconds. But you. It's somebody. You see the cops running towards danger. And I don't want to sound cheesy or anything like that, but when these things happen.

[Brent]

Yeah. You give credit where credit's.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Brent]

Heck, yeah. Good on them.

[Tyler]

So I'm in end this, you know, because we.

[Brent]

We've done the job. Yeah. Or a job. I think there's a disconnect sometimes when people see that and they're like. Yeah, it's what they're supposed to do. Let me tell you. When there's actual gun fire going around. Around you and you have no idea what you're running into, and you have no idea when you turn that corner that you, you could just take one from the nugget. He could be right around that corner. You have no idea. Like, the adrenaline going through. Those guys, they want to live like, like everyone else, yet they are moving towards the gunfire. And, you know, they, they deserve credit for that.

[Steve Murphy]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's what makes them heroes. And that's what ticks you off when people are ditzing. The cops, the men and women who are brave enough to put a uniform on to do exactly what you just saw in that video.

[Brent]

Yeah, the. I'm assume it's, you know, we, we. We don't. We don't play favorites here and we just call it like we see it. I'm going to assume I just learned about it. That's probably. It's a white guy. Is that what it is?

[Steve Murphy]

It looked like it.

[Brent]

A white guy. So, hey, we. People just. If you don't like what I say, then, you know, then get upset at the facts. So we, we talk about races and genders at times and, and generally speaking, what's. What's generally true? What is it with white, young white guys shooting up schools?

[Tyler]

Active shooters.

[Brent]

Let's not pretend like that's not a thing. Why, why do you think that's a. Why do you think that's a thing, Steve?

[Steve Murphy]

I think it's people looking for their five seconds of fame. And it's one of the most cowardly things that anybody could ever do to take a weapon and shoot unarmed people. No sympathy for them whatsoever.

[Brent]

Thank you, Drew.

[Steve Murphy]

I mean, quite honestly, I don't like the fact that they survive afterwards. I think they should get part of their own medicine.

[Brent]

Yeah. Yeah. That's some. I, I really don't understand that. That why Young, young white men feel the need, you know, from getting bullied, whatever it is. Like, you know what? I'm gonna go shoot up a school.

[Tyler]

Look at it.

[Brent]

Makes no sense.

[Tyler]

White people are the only ones that go ghost hunting. Nobody else does that. You ask any other race, they're like, no, thank you.

[Brent]

I mean, I don't. I mean, Grant, I don't think about ghost hunting a lot, but. But I've never. I've never thought about that. That's. That's absolutely true.

[Steve Murphy]

I think my youngest daughter's probably watching this, and she'd love to go ghost hunting.

[Tyler]

Somebody asked. Somebody said, we should go to a haunted prison. And I was like, man, that would be super cool. I was like, but Brent hides his fear of ghosts by saying they're not real.

[Brent]

So at the unit, sometimes you do these flyaways and we do these. These large hits. And the only way, like. So you have no idea the amount of, like, old insane asylums that we fit. They're old. They don't use them anymore. So we can. We can still, you know, use their doors for explosive charging and we can. We can run amok in those places. The amount of times I've been in some random basement in some old same asylum, just dark as can be and, you know, just me, like, after the hit was over and we're cleaning up and going, this is creepy. Good thing I don't believe in ghosts.

[Tyler]

Because if I did, I'd be scared.

[Brent]

There may have been some times I walked a little faster than I normally did in some areas.

[Steve Murphy]

You never heard anything or.

[Brent]

Never. No, never heard anything. But I'm tell you, I was just some creepy, old abandoned jail cells. You know, jail. Jails and prisons. Old abandoned schools. Old and like I said, like an insane asylum. So we've been to some weird places and seen some weird things on the walls.

[Tyler]

What they were here or overseas?

[Brent]

Oh, all here. All training environments.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Have you ever been there? One in Radford, Virginia.

[Brent]

I don't think I've been to one of Virginia. Okay, that. Me personally, but I'm telling you, they go around everywhere hitting them. So I'm. I'm sure. I'm sure we've been there before and.

[Tyler]

We talked about that last live. You weren't here. But we were talking about the mental health crisis in America, and it's because they shut the loony bins down, and now they're all out on the streets because we've been like, oh, the mental health crisis that we're dealing with. Nowadays, it's like it's the same amount of people. Right or right, wrong or indifferent. We just used to lock them up and throw away the key.

[Brent]

You know, we stopped doing lobotomies.

[Drew]

You know what?

[Steve Murphy]

That's. That just. That's a scapegoat. That's the first thing that people run to when something like this happens. You know, he's. He's having some kind of mental issues. Well, everybody has stress and anxiety in their life.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

We don't pick up guns and go kill, man.

[Brent]

Absolutely right. And we'll talk about a scapegoat. Or you were going to sit here and talk about mental health again. I got. Every time. How often are we going to talk about mental health? And if it ain't getting better, well, then we're not doing the right things. Let's reevaluate what we're doing. We talk about mental health until we're blue in the face. I just. Let's just try it. Just. Just humor me, America, and just try it and start looking at. At other young men and be like, oh, you having a tough day? Welcome to life, buddy. Suck it up. Go to work, move on. Oh, you just want me to suppress it. That's exactly what I'm asking you to do. Suppress it. Go to work, move on. Life gets bad. Life gets better. If you keep on moving on, guess what? It'll get better again.

[Steve Murphy]

Exactly.

[Brent]

Just. Just hold on.

[Steve Murphy]

My wife. My wife was very good about telling our kids, life's hard.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

It's not easy. You got to deal with it.

[Brent]

I mean, a friend told me once.

[Steve Murphy]

Hey.

[Brent]

That you only got two options. Life, you know, six foot forward or six foot under. And that's. That really is. That's your only two options in life. Six foot forward, six foot under. Just keep moving forward.

[Steve Murphy]

Yep.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, it's. I don't know. It's crazy. It's. It's the. It's the definition of lunacy. Definition of lunacy to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

And that's what we're doing.

[Drew]

Super chats. Evan says currently in Vegas for my bachelor party. Thursday nights are for the boys.

[Tyler]

Nice.

[Drew]

I'm up $200 on roulette, and every hot girl that says hi to me, I find out as a hooker.

[Steve Murphy]

Oh.

[Drew]

Wish me and my bottle of espalon luck. Airborne.

[Brent]

Oh, man, I bet he's watching one of my favorite Las Vegas stories. We went to NTC in California, got the weekend off. A bunch of SF guys Scooted on the Vegas. Russ, if you're watching, I hope you remember the story. There's this hot chick that's over there, like, trying to dance with Russ. And Russ is one of our, like, older green bra. He's on the B team at this time. Not like, crazy old. I mean, but I say old. He's probably in his 40s at the time, right? And he comes back, and I said. And like, she walks off. Like, after she got done talking to him, I was like, man, Russ, you dropped the ball on that one. He goes, no, no, no. She was coming. She came and tried to talk to me. I was like, yeah, Russ, it's what they do. He goes. He goes, no. I said, you know, get away. I don't. I don't talk to hookers. And he goes, how'd you know then? How'd you know she was a hooker? He goes, because she was talking to me.

[Tyler]

That's fair. That's fair, man.

[Steve Murphy]

With wisdom right now, you gotta know your limitations.

[Brent]

Oh, man.

[Drew]

That was funny. All right. Brandon Bailey says was the last super chat. Last stream. Want to hear some section eight stories from Trevor? Love you guys. JV team for life.

[Tyler]

And he held me to it. First super chat, section eight street cop stories. There's pretty much my average day is in section eight. Yeah, I mean, they. Obviously, it sucks because 95 of the people that live in section eight, they support you. They want the crime down, but they have the. The 5% that live there, that. That run the block. And they can't snitch. They can't say anything. You know, that's. It's. It's traditional stuff, but it still happens to this day.

[Brent]

This is what irritates me about that. Well, you just said it is always true, right? Like, 95% of them are good. Well, if 95% is good, come together, deal with those 5% and live in a utopia. You don't have to deal with this like they. They choose to.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brent]

Yeah. And I know it's a little deeper than that. You know, part of that 95 is. Is old people and women. And part of that 5% is a bunch of young, strong men. I get it.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Because I'm sure the first goal is to get out of there, not try to sit there and fight, you know, so if you can. But yeah, I mean, the day it's.

[Brent]

It's your neighborhood, you live in it. You have to. You have to be the change. I mean, that's cliche as it gets.

[Steve Murphy]

But it's True it Is, but that 5% is, has weapons. They have no compunction about pulling a trigger. They have no remorse, no guilt feelings. And 95 are law abiding citizens.

[Brent]

And, and they live there. And let's say they're under 18.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Well, their parents live there too. Like their parents have. Could have some sort of influence and control over them. They just choose not to, which is why they act like that in the first place.

[Tyler]

Yeah, there's old there. I say this all the time. There's old hood and there's new hood. Old hood traditionally takes care of himself. They very rarely call you. They resort to violent crime at a very last resort because they know it's bad for business to have the police around. Okay, they take care of them. Whether or not that's good, that they police their own, I don't know. But they do. New hood. I call this the fatherless. The fatherless kids generation. They don't know. They have no code of honor. They have no code of anything. They don't shower. They shoot each other. They shoot in it. They rob their own communities.

[Brent]

Don't shower. It used to be just seemed like a random personal attack mixed in there.

[Drew]

Well, hygiene is the issue here, people.

[Tyler]

Hygiene. When they're in the back of your car and you're like, damn, son, have you washed your ass like you're 16 years old? But yeah, and they just. The biggest thing for me, the takeaway is that like, you know, traditionally not saying crime is right, but they wouldn't commit crimes in their own territory. And these guys hold up their own people in their own apartment complexes, in their own Section 8 housing at their own convenience stores. And it's just, you know, wild west.

[Steve Murphy]

It's sad.

[Brent]

Yeah. Well, you remember when, you know, Jared Reston was on, it was interesting to hear his take about why Jacksonville has such a high crime rate.

[Tyler]

Why was it.

[Brent]

And it was because there are no large organized gangs essentially within Jacksonville, in the area in Duval County. It's just a bunch of gang members and no real hierarchy. So. And like usual in a big city with a hierarchy of a gang, you have to go get permission before you go shoot someone. You can't just go shoot someone, but because there's no hierarchy, they just go shoot each other all the time. And again, not saying gangs are good, but. But there are benefits. That's a weird thing to say.

[Tyler]

A vacuum in South America.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, but it didn't last very long.

[Tyler]

I'm just saying that sometimes, I mean, I'm sure there's Arguments that there's cartels, although they bring a lot of bad.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

The control and the, the, you know, stuff like that. That when you, when you remove a component, there's going to be a lot of instability that you have to now.

[Brent]

Manage and it goes back to when you're. And by the way, if you guys want to put in a super chat and ask Steve Mercy. Steve Murphy. We weren't joking. Like he was part of the. The two person. If I remember right, the two person DA Task force out there for three years. Yeah. Hunting Pablo. But I mean, obviously the Pablo Escobar was, you know, there's a lot of violence, you know, that surrounded him, but there are a bunch of people who loved him because of all the good that he did or. Well, or still. Doctor. Yeah. And I'm sure he did do some good to some communities.

[Drew]

He did.

[Steve Murphy]

He. Yeah, he did. He built. He built clinics, he built free housing.

[Brent]

Okay. Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Bought food, built soccer fields. But when he needed new sicarios because his sicaris are being killed.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Where do you think he went to recruit?

[Tyler]

Right. You play baseball on that field, Timmy, you owe me.

[Brent]

Nothing comes free. Yeah, nothing's free.

[Steve Murphy]

But, you know, here's. Think about this. And especially with the Mexican cartels today, what if they stop fighting between each other?

[Tyler]

They wouldn't do that.

[Steve Murphy]

It would be. It would be devastating. It'd be worse than, you know, it would be.

[Brent]

We can't even imagine if they stopped fighting between each other, if, if they.

[Steve Murphy]

Would divide their terror. And they've tried this before, but their egos get in the way, their pride, you know, they. They want to be top dog. They don't want to answer anybody.

[Brent]

Right.

[Steve Murphy]

But if they, if they divided the territories and shared.

[Tyler]

Well, yeah, they're not gonna do that.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

How could. How could we stop that?

[Brent]

Yeah, it's.

[Steve Murphy]

It's. It's what keep. It's the same thing with gangs on the street. That's what, you know, they kill each other. I. Sometimes I don't have a problem with that.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Homeostasis work.

[Drew]

Work smarter, not harder. All right, we got Kenneth says Brent, thank God you are back. Tyler the degenerate let the orange monster take over the white monster spot. Oh, no music recommendations. Pantera. Cowboys from hell, man.

[Brent]

You will.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

Have a blessed weekend.

[Tyler]

Call me degenerate. I'm gonna chip in 11.

[Brent]

Yeah, but I, I hope it does $10 cowboy trail. That's a good one.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Knowing somebody's commented.

[Brent]

Right.

[Tyler]

So I, I went through a, like a little I'm still working on it where, like, I'm trying to lose weight and I'm like, man, when should I drink? Should I only drink, like one night on the weekend? Should I drink on Thursdays? So there's a couple Thursdays I just didn't have any beer. I had water, cigar, and people were commenting, oh, and then we did the live show in. Not Jersey City. Oh, yeah, Jersey City. Just last one. And somebody commented on one of the photos, like, wow, I thought you weren't drinking any beer, Tyler. I never once said I was sober.

[Brent]

Well, you're right. I think maybe one of your problems when you're like, I have a beer that's. That's like a. That's like a Foster's, you know, beer. So I don't think it's the number, it's the size of the beer sometimes. Edward.

[Tyler]

40 hands.

[Brent]

Yeah. Just because you put it in a gallon jug and say, I just had one. Maybe that's the problem.

[Steve Murphy]

Everybody, everybody who ever stopped for DUI, how many beers do they have?

[Tyler]

Two.

[Steve Murphy]

It was like that back in the 70s.

[Drew]

Everyday American says, Tyler, why do these active shooters come out alive so often? Is there a protocol or unwritten rule that they actively try and take these guys alive?

[Tyler]

No, I've never heard of that. I don't think anybody's ever heard of that. It's usually because they give up. Because. And when they teach us active shooter training, they're. They're not saying, like, hey, it's not dangerous. But these guys aren't there to shoot you. They're there to shoot people without weapons. They're going to cower when they see you. They're going to run, they're going to give up. They're not going to engage you like you think they would.

[Steve Murphy]

And, you know, you know, you'd love to pull that trigger, but that's that, you know, we all took an oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States and our fellow man. If they're not offering a threat to.

[Tyler]

You, if they go like this and they get on their knees, you can't do it.

[Brent]

And. But here is, here's something that I'll. I'll counter that with when I go train SWAT teams. I don't get in their business. As far as, you know, when they pull the trigger, why they pull the trigger? I mean, they work under laws that I don't. I just get, you know, I just get. We just get in the weeds with tactics and the end, you know, at the end result or things that they have to deal with. But, you know, we will put them in certain situations and, and, and, and just show them the benefit sometimes of, of splitting up and not staying together. I know it. See, it feels comfortable when you're, when you have two people that, hey, we're mutually supporting each other. We're here. But, you know, we, we put them through these exercises that, that prove, hey, this is, this is an option. Split apart and then make him fight from two different, you know, from two, two different ways. He can, he can't, he can't fight, you know, on two fronts. And we basically show him that. And we do that with sims. And there are a handful of times when we do that. And we'll take this room right here. And so the active shooter or the barricaded shooter is in there training sim rounds with this cop right here. And when the cop goes around and he's at that door, when that guy's looking this way, he has him dead to rights.

[Steve Murphy]

Right?

[Brent]

Dead to rights. While he's in a gunfight in training with his partner. I don't know how many times I've seen the guy sneak up on the guy and then give him a command, oh, freeze. You know, drop the gun. Like, things like that. Like, hey, I don't know what business is, but I feel like he should, you should be okay, just shoot that guy. Yeah. And they'll agree, they'll all agree after that. But it's almost like something that's just kind of ingrained in them. Whether it's kind of a cover your ass thing, like, hey, if I don't kill him, there's no way I get in trouble for this.

[Tyler]

I don't know, like, oh, you've seen the videos. Drop the knife. Drop the fucking knife. Drop the knife. Like, clearly after about four, you're not going to shoot them, right? So just take off running at that point.

[Steve Murphy]

Well, it's almost like uniforms feel like. And I was the same way. You feel like that they get the first shot before you can shoot back. But I'll give you an example. In 1989 with DEA, we were down in Miami and we're doing just a 17 kilo by bus deal in Hialeah and two bad guys come in and it's a straight out ripoff. And so me and my partner Kevin were in the back with another agent. We're the arrest team. Ended up in a gun battle inside this house. Kevin gets hit twice with.45 caliber slugs in the right arm. The informant catches the.357 in the throat. He doesn't make to the hospital. Oh, I'm going out to. You know, I come out of the room, we've got Kevin stabilized, and he looks up and all he says is, go get the son of a bitch. So I'm going out, I've got a Colt SMG 9 millimeter machine gun. Go out on the street, and there's the guy.

[Brent]

He's.

[Steve Murphy]

He's got full blown aids, so he can't. He can't run. He's hobbling. And I used to be a firearms instructor, so, you know, full blown AIDS with a long gun, you know, 20 yards, easy shot.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Just shot your partner. Hardest thing in the world for me was not pull that trigger.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Because I looked and he had dropped his gun.

[Tyler]

Ah.

[Steve Murphy]

I mean, and nowadays everybody's got a camera.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's true. Did they have one then?

[Steve Murphy]

I don't know.

[Tyler]

We'll hit some super chats as quick as we can, and then we'll get into the first topic, Everyday American.

[Brent]

Before, before we move on, I want to. Gosh, I want to find out that, that. I get it. The story. Correct. But while I got you, I remembered a story from Tim Kennedy's book. Oh. And so his dad was Mike Kennedy, and Mike Kennedy spent some times doing narcotics in law enforcement. And there's this. And I'm gonna find it. If before this episode's over, I'm gonna find it. But there's a story where Mike Kennedy went and stole a whole plane full of Pablo Escobar's drugs.

[Steve Murphy]

No problem there.

[Brent]

Have you ever heard that? Would that be a story that maybe you would have heard being a part of that narcotics task force?

[Steve Murphy]

I've not heard of a whole plane being stolen, but, I mean, that was a tactic we used to use. If we found a stash house and we could steal it from him. That causes a lot of reaction on the phones. Yeah, you talk about stirring the pot.

[Brent]

Yeah, he did that on. He says that in his book. And he tells that on the Sean Ryan Show. I was. Dad stole a plane full of drugs from right under Pablo Escobar's nose. I'm sure he did in Colombia. I will make sure that I, That I find out the. The facts on that. So I. So I don't. So I don't. So I don't say, say wrong. Like I said, I feel like you would probably have heard that.

[Steve Murphy]

I hope it's true. I mean, that's great.

[Brent]

Well, not a whole lot in this book's been true. I Don't. I just. I just unfortunately suspect that not to be true.

[Drew]

Everyday American says about the shooters, it's SSRIs, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and the deranged.

[Brent]

You can't get every acronym we've ever gone across when you got ssri.

[Drew]

Well, yeah, it's about. It's about. It's about depression. It's about depression. I mean, I was a counselor.

[Tyler]

Did you. Did you Google it?

[Drew]

Of course I Googled it.

[Tyler]

Threw everybody off. We had to stop the show.

[Drew]

Who was gonna know that I had to Google that?

[Brent]

Good job, detectives. Way to get to the bottom of it, Tyler.

[Steve Murphy]

Hey, Drew. I was impressed. Okay.

[Drew]

All right. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors and the derangement they have from social media. These guys are almost always on the FBI's radar, and they do nothing.

[Tyler]

He was on our radar.

[Steve Murphy]

They, being the FBI, do nothing. Yeah, well, they're the FBI.

[Drew]

They're just watching.

[Brent]

Just watching.

[Steve Murphy]

They're watching.

[Drew]

All these people on depression medication. They're just watching all of them.

[Steve Murphy]

I love you guys in the FBI. I'm just joking. Just joking.

[Drew]

Let's see. Solely. And a whole bunch of numbers. When is Hugh Care. Matt Tunrose, Commander, coming on? You said in March you'd contact him. I sent his email on Patreon as I'm a straight hooligan. And I'm his Patreon too. Love to see you guys talk on Matt.

[Brent]

Thank you for reminding me. I do. It's not that I don't write. Remember, somebody don't write things down and never look at it. We just have a whole lot to get to. Drew, go back to that, just real quick. And I'm a text Vanessa right now, if you care. Got it.

[Steve Murphy]

What country is he in? Looks like sterling pounds that he paid with.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He. That's the uk don't worry.

[Tyler]

Google Translate it to our money.

[Steve Murphy]

You need a calculator.

[Brent]

Yeah, we're not sure how much you just paid.90 cents.

[Steve Murphy]

All right.

[Drew]

Salvador says. Brent, did you read about the Boston City councilor Tanya Fernandez Anderson taking a plea deal after being caught by the FBI for taking kickbacks? What do you think of General Braga's intention to revoke the special forces tab if fiscal standards are not met?

[Brent]

Whoa. Two things about that. I did. I did read that. That story. Just. No surprise. Like Democrats in a Democrat city doing Democrat things. The. So General Braga. Here's. Here's. I have two things to say about that. One, long overdue. There's the. I will Say this the fat Green Beret, you know, stereotype that you won't see those guys on a team. I don't know why they think even when they, after they get off a team, they still serve on the B team when they're in a command element that they can get fat. You still wear a Green Beret, so you better look like it. Like people don't know if you're on a team or not on a team. I just think that you have no pride in, and, and, and yourself and what you did and what you do. So I love these. Doing that. But hey, if we're goes back, if we're gonna get really stringent because things matters and there's a standard of, of Green Berets, then how about lying in a book, holding up a whole. A whole evacuation effort because you're trying to get there for a photo op. Tim Kennedy. How about using dead Green Berets for your, you know, for your. For your book and using their stories and using as your own. I mean, I think that just because you're in shape, you can do that. So let's, let's be, let's be consistent here. Yeah, Braga.

[Drew]

All right, what about. Has anybody heard about the Boston City councilor that took the kickbacks caught by the FBI?

[Brent]

I started out my answer with that.

[Drew]

My bad. I was daydreaming.

[Brent]

All right, thank you, guys.

[Drew]

All right, Sully back again. Says Hugh said he thinks police officers see more trauma in their careers than soldiers. You guys agree?

[Tyler]

Yeah, Just depends on the soldier.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

And the police officer. How many times have you heard a guy, he was on the job for 30 years and he said he never pulled his gun.

[Tyler]

I don't know how you could be a cop, man. That'd be the most boring job in the world.

[Steve Murphy]

He had to be inside all the time. I mean, it's, you know, they brought. I'm. I guess that's something to be proud of, but it tells me you're not doing your job.

[Brent]

Yeah, As a general statement, I mean, the, the war on terror only lasted so long, you know, I mean, like. And it's done, like, as of right now. No one's. No one's at war, but police officers are still going through the same thing, like it never ends with them. So I think as a general statement, that's true.

[Steve Murphy]

And the uniforms, you know, I mean, you're still in uniform. God bless you, man. I don't know that I could do it, you know. Well, I'm an old man now, but the folks that are in uniform out there. They're going through it every fricking day.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

And you keep in mind that everything you do is being videotaped and it's going to be reviewed time and time again. They're going to take you to court. You know, they're going to vilify you on social media.

[Tyler]

I love it with you, though. They'll put a camera in your face. God. Filming you. I'm like, I'm filming me.

[Brent]

I don't think. I wish it was all this. I mean, I'm. It's not the, like the. The killing of bad guys that I think would be a problem with the job. I mean, I'm a weirdo. I think it's a great thing when bad guys are. Are killed.

[Tyler]

That's not weird.

[Brent]

It's the. It's like the car. It's like the family and the car accidents and. And the other things like that that police officers also have to deal with that. I think kids suck.

[Tyler]

Not even kids. Not even.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Living in neglect and you're just like, man, there's nothing I can do for this kid. That Department of Children and Families or whatever the state agency is. As long as there's a roof, there's food in the fridge. They could be living in filth. They don't care.

[Brent]

Again, I'm just talking in generalities and generalities. The military is about good guys and bad guys, you know, but when it comes to the police work, there's good guys and bad guys and there's everything else that encompasses your job that I think has a much bigger toll, you know, mentally, that soldiers do not have to deal with. Generally speaking. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Different types.

[Brent]

Yeah, it is.

[Tyler]

Simon Footer says only a shot it out. Great channel.

[Brent]

A shot.

[Tyler]

I think it's shot out if you.

[Brent]

Say it fast enough. Only a shot it out.

[Tyler]

Papa Penguin. The actual data doesn't support mass shootings being predominantly white. It matches the population. That is largely myth created by classification and reports of crime. The news also pushes stories that sell ads.

[Brent]

Okay, I'll give a little pushback on that. I know, you know, whatever you're saying that the. Now we're talking about, like, then what's a stat? Like what's a mass shooting? And let's just say a guy in the hood, because we're talking about two people. Two people killed and six injured. You can get that in a night in Chicago on black. On black violence. So that would. So that would be, you know, a mass shooting. But I'm talking about it More in its, in its standard sense.

[Tyler]

Listen, we'll just.

[Brent]

In a school then. Let's just call it a school shooter. I can't think of a black school shooter now. Yes. If you want to go back to some sort of. More again, gang related related or something where a person's shooting a person. But that to me goes more. Even though it happened out of school, it's more gang related than it is a school shooting for just talking about pure bullied, unprovoked school shootings. They're young white men. I think everyone in memory I can.

[Tyler]

Think of Virginia Tech was an Asian guy or.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, well, even. Even in Nashville at that, at that parochial school, the girl was the shooter and Mike Collazo and his partner went and took her out. That was a white girl.

[Tyler]

Was she trying to be a boy?

[Brent]

Yeah. Was that, Was that the tranny?

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. I'm not sure. They're just now starting to release the manifesto that she had there.

[Brent]

She was.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

That was a transgender one. Yeah. Yeah. So. So, so she gets.

[Tyler]

She gets both categories until we get the report.

[Brent]

Yeah. But I don't know if that was a girl pretending to be a boy or boy pretending to be a girl. I don't. I don't remember.

[Tyler]

Well, for the sake of argument, we're just going to use it as a guy. Yeah, that's right.

[Drew]

I think other demographics make up for it as being mass shooters, not mass shooting. What, like they, they make up with single numbers?

[Brent]

Yes. Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, I don't. Anyway, moving on.

[Drew]

You've got Papa Penguin.

[Tyler]

I read that one.

[Drew]

Oh, you got that one.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Solely. One, two, three. I've been mainly bedridden over a year due to illnesses and may never recover. Even listening to audio is hard advice. I'm keeping positive. This goes back to your move six feet forward.

[Brent]

Yeah. It's going to sound weird, but guess what? Helen Keller was had. What? Deaf. Deaf and blind.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And. And dumb. And she somehow is an author and of like a public speaker. When you like, look at her life, which is crazy. And everyone knows her name. So make this. I hate to say it, but there's. There really is no excuse. There is something in your life you can find that you can drive towards. There is. And I'm not. And I'm not going to sit here and tell you that it's easy.

[Steve Murphy]

Right.

[Brent]

But if you. If you're looking for it, you'll find it.

[Steve Murphy]

I agree.

[Brent]

I promise you.

[Steve Murphy]

I agree.

[Brent]

It.

[Steve Murphy]

Life's as good or as bad as you make it. I'm sorry if you're living in chronic pain, because I don't think anybody should live in chronic pain. But there's got to be some positive to it.

[Brent]

I mean, I hate to say. I mean, there's. I mean, there's a lot you can do from bed. I mean, really. I mean, all. You could do so much research. You could write a book. And with today's social media, you can do. You could do so much from social media, no one even know you're bedridden. You can find something and get behind it and go.

[Steve Murphy]

You can run a podcast.

[Brent]

You could call the Bed Riddance Podcast.

[Tyler]

Chronic Goals.

[Brent]

Yeah. Hey. And that we're making work. But you know what? Yeah. Have a good time with it. Make fun of yourself. That. That'll. That'll. That'll bring a lot of people in.

[Drew]

And I would imagine a lot of bedridden people would watch that podcast.

[Steve Murphy]

Yep.

[Drew]

And they would talk with each other. You create a community.

[Brent]

You have a captured audience.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

They're not going anywhere.

[Tyler]

And if you never recover, your time on God's earth is very, very, very, very, very, very small compared to when you're back up in heaven. So as much as it sucks. Fight. Stay here because.

[Brent]

And do good things.

[Tyler]

Yeah, absolutely. Because you will be in the kingdom of heaven one day.

[Brent]

Yep.

[Tyler]

And it'll be eternity. You know, it'd be pain free.

[Brent]

Gosh. You can do a lot of positive from. From. Because you have so much time.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Brent]

You know, to work on it. And there's a positive of it.

[Steve Murphy]

That's. I like the way you said that, Tyler. It was very good.

[Brent]

I think there's times Drew would love to be bedridden.

[Drew]

Oh, yeah. I'd love the break.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I know. I'm waiting for the IRS to maybe put me in prison for a long time. Like, I don't. Don't threaten me with prison. All right, cool. Unnotty, unpopular. Tr. Truth. Places with more blacks are undesirable. Places ridden with violence, not because of Democrat policies, but because of cultured, genetic.

[Brent]

Let me see here.

[Tyler]

I say not Democrat. Democratic policies for the last 60, 70 years are the reasons why there's. There's a lot of.

[Drew]

Show ain't helping none.

[Brent]

Let's. Let's just put that to the test. Name a black country and they're essentially from the continent of Africa that has. Name one university from the continent of Africa. Name one. Name one car manufacturer from the continent of Africa.

[Steve Murphy]

Okay. Thank you.

[Brent]

Name one smartphone coming out of the continent of Africa. Although they have all the minerals to make them. Okay, so he may be right.

[Tyler]

Poll in the room.

[Brent]

I'm just trying to figure out what if what he's saying, you know, just goes through a. A light scrutiny and he. He may be right.

[Drew]

Clinton CNC Kiss a buck.

[Steve Murphy]

All right, I saw one up there about who put the brown in Pablo Escobar.

[Drew]

Oh, was that. Was it a super chat or was it something else?

[Brent]

Who put the brown in Cotton?

[Tyler]

That's what I said.

[Steve Murphy]

The round.

[Tyler]

The brown.

[Drew]

Oh, the round little typo.

[Brent]

I guess his boyfriend did.

[Tyler]

All right, we're at message deleted by the antihero podcast.

[Drew]

Oh, there was a weirdo going on.

[Tyler]

Oh, we paid 20 bucks, but it must have been pretty bad.

[Drew]

What? No, I didn't do that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, there was a 21 that said we deleted it.

[Drew]

All right, well you put it back in the regular chat.

[Steve Murphy]

Look at that one.

[Drew]

Because look, when I'm trying to. There was a guy. There was a troll in there. And when I try to kick one, sometimes the. The text moves up and. And I click the wrong one.

[Tyler]

Gotcha. No, no worries. I just. Salvador. Hey, Steve, for 50 bucks. Thank you. Salvador. Hey, Steve, what do you remember about the events surrounding Enrique Camarinas kidnapping, torture and tragic death? Did you. Did you any work in the Mexican border? Did you do any work in the Mexican border? Brent Song request War machine by Kiss. 50 bucks.

[Steve Murphy]

Nice, Salvador. Kiki's death happened before I joined DEA. I was back during that time. I was still a railroad cop. But I'm very familiar with the case on my show. I actually did a Patreon episode on that just earlier this month. Because of the people being RCQ getting extradited to the United States. The. What they did to Kiki is unspeakable. They had a doctor in the room. They killed him a total of three times. Twice they injected adrenaline into his heart just so he could come back to life.

[Tyler]

Oh God.

[Steve Murphy]

There's a video. There's a four part series on Amazon prime called the Last Narc, which is a bunch of bs. The retired agent that's on that show, there's not a word of truth on there. And he brings three people on there that he said were informants that were in the room as they tortured Kiki Camarena. They should be on death row or they should be six feet under already. But he's bringing them on the show like they're some kind of heroes. I mean, it's all about money.

[Brent]

There's a Tim Kennedy in every organization.

[Tyler]

Oh my gosh Uvalde shooter was a Hispanic male. Was he not accepting this?

[Brent]

I mean, it's Uvaldi.

[Tyler]

I mean, chances are every responding cop was a Hispanic. Mail. Yeah, we've got to get to some of the topics. Dude.

[Drew]

Duder says. What are your thoughts on Cole Fackler publicly disclosing his involvement in the UBL operation for the first time?

[Brent]

Yeah, I, I don't know what, I didn't see that. I don't know what level, you know, that he participated on that. So I, I'm interested to, to find out. You know dj. Yep. I don't know Cole real well. I've met him before. But as, as I've said on the, on this before, I've, I've worked with DJ before and know him and friends with him. He's a good dude.

[Tyler]

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[Drew]

Thanks, Bert. You saved me from typing out the TK question. Put some of this towards Pantera for the closer.

[Brent]

Hold on. So we're at 50. The other one was 10. 50 on one. 10 and 20. 30 for Pantera, 50 still for Kiss. Now I gotta do math. And then we started doing this part of the podcast, Woodcock.

[Drew]

Evening, Bart and Tay Tay. I like that. Tay Taylor.

[Brent]

Nice touch.

[Drew]

Okay, you see a dude walking down the street acting crazy and has a scantily dressed, overweight, toothless female in toe. His. Is he a tweaker or suffering from mental health issues?

[Steve Murphy]

She's a tweaker.

[Tyler]

Both. They're most likely both drug induced psychosis.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Nice.

[Brent]

Yeah. I'm telling you, I'm almost convinced there are no real mental health issues the way, the way we describe them. I mean, does that make sense? I mean, there's, there's more like mental disorders, but mental health is basically saying, hey, they're, they're a healthy minded person that just hasn't, just hasn't, you know, paid themselves enough attention.

[Drew]

Yeah, I mean, our culture is definitely blurring mental disorders with mental health.

[Brent]

Right.

[Drew]

And almost.

[Brent]

I mean, if you're bipolar, that's not a mental health issue. If you're Bipolar. That's a mental disorder. Yeah. So that's what I mean by this.

[Tyler]

Is kind of like, it's like, you know, gum health, you know, like, is it a crisis? Yeah, we need to brush our teeth a lot more in this country. But yeah, no matter what, you're not wrong. If they walk by your door, you're locking it. Whether it be drugs or mental health.

[Drew]

All right, Everyday American says, thinking about being a cop for a while now. Is there right and wrong reasons to join? I'd like to see change and stop crime, but I'm unsure if that's a selfish reason. Want to join for the right reason.

[Steve Murphy]

There's. There's a right reason.

[Tyler]

Get bad guys. Don't. Don't give me some. Like, you want to help, you want to serve. I mean, that. That should go without saying. I want cops out there that want to go. Chase. Chase bad guys down and lock them up.

[Steve Murphy]

Yep. They want to be proactive.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

They don't want to sit on their fat or sit on their butts and get.

[Tyler]

You could earn that right. After a few years. But go out there and get it.

[Brent]

What. I'll take this from a military first and then, you know, throw it over to you. Here would be a bad reason to join the military. I did it. I did it for college money. And it's a horrible. If that's your only reason, I think that's a horrible reason.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Give me a bad reason. People join the law enforcement stability equivalent.

[Tyler]

Stability job during any type. Any type of national economic crisis. You see a lot of government jobs spike because it's just guaranteed. Even during COVID everyone was getting lit up. You're always going to need cops. You're always going to need cops. So, you know, there's.

[Steve Murphy]

There's a lot of people out there that are anti police, defund the police, all that crap. And they think that we become police officers because we want to kill somebody. Have you ever met a cop anywhere in the world that said they joined because they wanted to kill somebody?

[Brent]

That's a good one. You. I. You hear that in the military? Yeah, I do not hear. I've never heard that. Of all the.

[Tyler]

Well, even in the military, you'd have to kind of clarify, like, you mean.

[Brent]

Even in the military.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Brent]

That's a little bit of a. That's a little bit of a warning, you know, it's a little bit of red flags. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Well, you know, I think. I think a lot of young people want to join. I joined the Police because I wanted to help people. You know, I felt like I'd been called into a life of service, but the truth is, it's exciting as hell.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

The adrenaline rush is addictive. You're on top of everything that's going on, you know, everything that's happening.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

And it sounds weird to say, but I've said that on a podcast before that I joined the military to kill people. I did. But that was because I joined because of September. That's right. And if you see 3, 000Americans die and you didn't want to kill some bad guys over that, well, I'm not gonna question your, your loyalty to the country.

[Tyler]

Yep.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Do you want to hit any of these topics, like the space girls?

[Brent]

Yeah, let's, let's, let's hit the space girls.

[Tyler]

Hit some Katy Perry in space.

[Brent]

You know, I've always kind of secretly being attracted to Katy Perry, just physically.

[Tyler]

Just not her voice or.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah. She opens her mouth and it goes soft. But I've always been. I've always been somewhat attracted to her. I don't. Is that too much to say? I don't. I mean, I don't think she's coming on the podcast anytime soon. Well, you can, Katie, you can.

[Drew]

Well, I don't think she's famous because she's got a face for radio, you know, so, I mean, it's a safe. Yeah, it's a safe one. You want the Instagram video?

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. This one just cracks me up. Those are like the guide parachutes. And then next will be the main parachutes that get pulled out. It's like a six flag roller coaster. Very soft, soft landing. Despite the sporty soft landing perception, there it is. They're still screaming.

[Drew]

Those are like the guys.

[Tyler]

So, yeah, you, you kind of brought up a good point, though. They, they are technically they're not astronauts because they did not fly.

[Brent]

If I hear one more person or actually, they're demanding to be called astronauts. Really, by the way. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Got a couple points I'd like to bring up about this. Did they go to space? Yes, they went to space, but that doesn't make you an astronaut. That was a 12 minute ride up and down a total of 12 minutes. So at some point, if you have. I'm just, just making a, a statement. If, if you have a jet that flies high enough, you know, to, to get into a sub orbit, is that pilot now an astronaut? Maybe, but he'd be more of an astronaut than they are. And I'll tell you a couple reasons why. One, they didn't pilot anything. They didn't train to do a spacewalk, to go repair anything. They did. They were just passengers in a vessel. And I'm sure it was a fun ride and a wild ride. I'm not, not taking that away. But they're not astronauts. I hate to bring this filth into this family show, but I've been inside a vagina for three minutes at a time. But that doesn't make me a gynecologist. You know, just because you've been close to something doesn't mean you're now. That I put together a key of furniture. That doesn't make me a carpenter. You know what I mean? So they're not astronauts.

[Tyler]

Hey, you're taking that. You built an entire bar. I consider you, I consider you a novice carpenter.

[Brent]

I'll tell you this. I'm closer to being a carpenter there. Being astronauts. I'd say that for sure. And the way they're calling this historic also rubs me wrong. Okay, so you know, you want to know when the first woman went to space? Take a stab.

[Tyler]

19 in the 70s.

[Brent]

1963. Ooh, wow. 1963. The first woman to space. 110 women since her have been to space.

[Tyler]

But what's very special.

[Brent]

That's right. What's historic about these six women because they're rich and famous. Is that what makes us saw those.

[Tyler]

Women perform a function in space.

[Brent]

Absolutely.

[Tyler]

That was needed for the vessel.

[Brent]

They were astronauts. They went through months of training and they lived in space. They didn't take a 12 minute ride. They.

[Drew]

Oh, I guess, I guess it would be historic. This is historic because it is historic because the most unqualified people ever went into space.

[Tyler]

That actually four unqualified people. Here's someone in the space again.

[Brent]

Here's something else I thought American history.

[Drew]

Way to go, ladies.

[Brent]

With this historic woman moment. As six passengers went on a 12 minute ride. They went on a ride on a rocket built by men. Controlled by men.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Owned by a man, engineered by men. Everything about that rocket, besides the easiest part of all, which is just enjoying the ride that men created. And yet this is historic moment for women. That's. That's. Think about that for a second.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You can have it. Women, if that's what you want.

[Brent]

It reminds me of there's like, like so strong, independent women that are still living off their, their dad's income. You know, I'm a strong independent woman. I got a place my own that, that your dad pays for. Paris Right. Here's something else. The last point I want to bring up on this. This has got a lot of coverage because it's liberal white women. Did you see Oprah crying, like when it happened? Because it was so historic.

[Tyler]

I love it.

[Brent]

So Elon Musk sent up a rocket to rescue two stranded astronauts that were stranded in space for nine months and got almost no media coverage. Like an actual space mission that rescued people stranded for nine months. You know who talks about it? Nothing. No one. Because political reasons. Because now he's aligned with the right and everyone hates Elon Musk.

[Drew]

Yeah, they wipe their butt on Teslas.

[Brent]

And he's a man.

[Drew]

Thanks, guys.

[Brent]

So, but, but we're going to give these six passengers on a 12 minute ride. Like all this media attention, it's insane. Again, no, no, no surprise. It's the world we live in, but makes no sense.

[Tyler]

Before we forget, Steve.

[Steve Murphy]

Yes.

[Tyler]

You have a podcast.

[Steve Murphy]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Called the Game of Crimes and the logo is kind of similar to like Game of Thrones. So. But on that podcast, what is it? Is it stories of law enforcement, military?

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, it's. So every week there's a. It's a weekly true crime podcast. There's a guest on every show, mostly current and former law enforcement, but also bring in military veterans. Just because there's so much crossover.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

I've gotten very active in supporting a lot of military groups now just because all the suicides and all that. But occasionally I'll even bring in a former bad guy.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. So I had recently had George Christie, who was the president of hell's Angels in LA for 35 years. Got the last interview with George Jung, who was, you know, renowned. The movie Blow is made about Georgia.

[Tyler]

I love that movie. It's a great movie.

[Steve Murphy]

And, you know, brought in money launderers, had a couple Mexican mafia guys.

[Tyler]

Now what? Just I'm gonna pick your brain live. We had talked about before this, we went live about Michael Dowd, the notorious corrupt dirty cop that did 10 years prison time and doesn't really seem like he's that apologetic about it. No, but where do you draw the line? Is it because. And the vibe I got from you is that you do not want to associate with him. But where do you draw the line? Is it because he was a cop? He's automatically bad forever because these other criminals have gotten a platform on your show.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. So all of the criminals have to come on. They have to have admitted guilt.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Steve Murphy]

George was really. He really didn't, to be honest with you.

[Tyler]

George Christie.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. Yeah, because one of the questions I asked him at the end is, if you had to do all over again, would you change anything? And he's. Nope.

[Tyler]

Did he do prison time for anything?

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

And his son. His son was killed as he was the Hell's Angels also. But all the others have to have. Have cooperated, you know, that they did the right thing. They accepted responsibility for their actions and cooperate with law enforcement.

[Brent]

Now, some people might flame me for this because I don't Actually don't know a lot about it, so I probably shouldn't speak of it, but I still will. The. I'm assuming it seems like the Mafia is kind of toothless these days. I mean, they're not what they were. Right. I'm sure some of you, like, oh, you don't know. They. They absolutely still run the city. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But let's. Let's say they've. They've been kind of taken down a notch or two. Have. The. Are the Hells Angels kind of that in that same form or fashion? Are the Hells Angels just as dangerous today because they have that big name, you know, and they have that. That iconic, you know, these. These men will do bad things, will kill you. Don't cross the Hell's Angels. Or they still more just kind of a past name. It's a motorcycle club now.

[Steve Murphy]

No. They're as violent as they ever were.

[Tyler]

They're still getting in shootings.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Recent. Recent ones.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. There's nothing that's changed in the Mafia. One of my guests on there was Mike Franzese, who was in the Colombo crime family. Did his time in prison. He's a strong Christian now. He's got his own show out also, but. But we've kind of gotten to be friends. It's strange. I was a cop for 38 years, and I'm friends with these criminals.

[Tyler]

I mean, that's the thing. Once you're retired and done. Everyone's criminals are retired. Everyone's out of the game. Why not talk about it? Learn from each other, you know?

[Steve Murphy]

Well, that's. And how does the public learn what really goes on with them if you don't bring them on to interview them?

[Tyler]

We almost had Chris Christie on, But he required two seats. He required two, and then he wanted. His seats were like $2,000 or a piece or he wanted to fly in, and he said it's because of his age. He's like, I just had a hip replacement. Like, he's like, I'm like 80 years old dude, he's like, no, we couldn't really afford it.

[Brent]

I don't know if.

[Steve Murphy]

Talking about not taking care of yourself.

[Brent]

Yeah. I don't know if you'd agree with this, you know, this view of it, but, you know, we've as, as you'd imagine. Have you gone and looked at the comments on our, on our last podcast with, with Heather?

[Tyler]

I didn't want to.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah. A lot of people be like, hey, like, you know, you guys, you know, say this about female cops and just, you know, hitting us up hard. We've always been very, you know, opinionated about female cops. Yeah, I have. No, and, and, and we said this Heather was a, She's a unicorn. Right. She probably can do the job. Probably. I'm still not, you know, convinced about that. And everyone. Oh, there's a bunch of, you know, a bunch of guys that are weaker than her. Probably doesn't make it right. But I still think it's important that we will absolutely have a female cop on the show because you have to hear from her perspective what she thinks she's doing and what she's capable of and like that, that side of it. The same way, the same way that I'd have a Democrat on the show. And oh, here's the point. They're upset about how nice we treated her. We gave plenty of pushback, but we did it nicely. Well, we talk trash about Democrats all the time, but if a Democrat came and sat in the seat, I'm gonna be cordial with them, you know, but I still wanna hear like their side of whatever the story is.

[Tyler]

People were like, oh, see this, this episode, I mean, it was kind of a funny statement. He's like, the irony of this episode, these guys are having to. They're treating her differently. They're acting. So these people watch us, right? They can see us. They watch many episodes. They know when we're acting different. I don't think we notice, but that's because we have a lady here. We just, we tone the jokes down and it's, it's subconscious.

[Brent]

Right.

[Tyler]

Inherent in us.

[Brent]

Right. Which is really whole. The. It's, it's almost proof of what we talk about all the time. Like if you have a lady next to you, you're going to act different. You were going to protect her when, if it was a male cop buy you'd be like, well, you gotta, you gotta protect yourself, buddy, because I got something to deal with, you know.

[Steve Murphy]

Well, I think it has to a lot to do with how you were raised. You know.

[Brent]

Absolutely.

[Steve Murphy]

And it's not being a male sexist. You just. You were raised to respect women, right? It doesn't make them inferior.

[Brent]

Anyone that comes to this show that aligns on the other side of whatever our viewpoint is, we're still going to treat with respect. And that's not being too faced. I talk a lot of crap, you know, you know, off the cuff. And a lot of it's just like light hearted joking that I wouldn't say to someone that was sitting right there because I'm not a social retardant.

[Tyler]

He reads the room.

[Steve Murphy]

Is that right, Drew?

[Tyler]

Before we go on a commercial break, I'm hit some super chats. You guys ready for the speed round?

[Brent]

Speed round.

[Tyler]

Zulu whiskey. Yes. Trant said tranny. That's. I don't know if Trent is Tyler.

[Brent]

Or Brent or maybe we're like a power couple now.

[Tyler]

Whoever said tranny falls this past week. Happy Easter. Thanks FRCC for the coffee and Gars Delta Camo. Pepperman. 50 bucks. Thanks.

[Brent]

Gay.

[Tyler]

And I just wanted to hear Paul Rudd say it.

[Steve Murphy]

Gay.

[Drew]

And those are some good words.

[Tyler]

Dallas, Texas. Christ is king of all kings.

[Steve Murphy]

Amen.

[Tyler]

Amen.

[Drew]

Amen.

[Tyler]

My number one podcast. Please add this 9.99 to the Cowboys from hell pile.

[Brent]

Yes. We're. We're getting this 40 and 50. Now we're $10 short for Pantera.

[Tyler]

High power. Another $20 for Pantera.

[Brent]

Oh, we're there. 60 over 50.

[Tyler]

James Smith. Another $20 for Pantera.

[Brent]

Oh, Pantera takes the lead.

[Tyler]

Simon Futter. Shout out. Shout out. Typo before. Shout out. Oh, Kelly donates.

[Brent]

Oh, running away with it.

[Tyler]

Let's see. Sack full of nades. 50 bucks.

[Brent]

Sack full of nades.

[Tyler]

Get with the times, Brent. It's hair Sto. It's a. It's a. Her stoic event.

[Brent]

Her.

[Drew]

Her stoic herstoric.

[Tyler]

Darren, Hein, Brett and Drew. I'm the security breach at the cigar show down in New Orleans. Happy I got to meet you guys and thanks for the sit down for the listeners. The FRCC Delta is damn good.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah. One of our listeners came and visit us and I'm sorry I didn't get to hang out with you a little bit more. I know we got a little bit busy there, Darren, but it was, it was great meeting your brother.

[Tyler]

I heard those, Nate. I heard those space girls. Mostly because those satellite dishes were filthy. I'm here all week. Please tip your waitress. All right, that'll be a commercial break. We'll be back after these paid messages.

[Brent]

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[Drew]

And we're back.

[Tyler]

So Magnet gave us an update. The Florida State shooter used his mom's service weapon.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Really?

[Tyler]

Oh, it gets juicier and juicier. Not that school shootings are juicy, but.

[Brent]

No, no. And it wasn't a Gator fan. It was as. As my sources are telling me, yeah, we've been. We've been owning them lately. We have no reason to go shoot shoot up their campus.

[Drew]

National champs of B ball, baby.

[Brent]

That's right, gator boy. Stay hot. I actually drew now. It's probably as good as time as ever. There's something I have to bring up. You actually started this.

[Tyler]

True.

[Drew]

Yep.

[Brent]

We got an email from the last live I was on. We were talking about Indians and and.

[Tyler]

We weren't even really talking about anything.

[Brent]

And Japan like Drew had brought up the similarities and I got an email from from a listener and you know, sometimes you got to eat crow. So his email to me was no thanks. Heard your brother degrade Native Americans recently by saying we're good for nothing and you just agreed with them. Had to unsubscribe from the podcast. And then despite being a big fan, maybe talk about how Native Americans methods are used by survival teachers in your same YouTube space. Or how they're healing remedies with plant medicines and psychedel are just now being found by vets to help with ptsd. You being a veteran should know that that comment by your brother struck a nerve. And then to hear you agree with it was enough for me. Thanks for your service. But I'm not putting my money towards a cause that disrespects my people for no reason. I'll go back to Black Rifle where my money goes towards a good cause to Democrats. So I let them know that I would address this on the podcast. And I am. Mike, thank you for your email and I always love hearing from our listeners. I've learned a lot from our listeners. They've given me insight into things I had not known. They've shown me different perspectives I never saw. I'm not always right.

[Tyler]

Can I read the next part? But this time I am.

[Brent]

So let's get to it, Mike. First off, it was a light hearted conversation about the similarities between the American Indians and the Japanese. Both being manhandled by Uncle Sam's freedom spreading spawn who screams of victories could only be drowned out by the screeching of bald eagles. Getting an ISR view of what Americans are capable of despite both teams losing with home court advantage, which is more embarrassing than the time Appalachian State marched into the big house in Michigan and walked away with their field goal posts. The similarities end there. Japan was hit with two American atom bombs harder than Nancy Kerrigan's kneecaps. Those determine little Japs bounce back better than Kim Kardashian's body after four kids and invented things like laptop computers, the portable cassette player, freaking Nintendo and created car companies such as Lexus, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Infiniti just to name a few. But they do get points deducted for Subaru. Sorry Eliden Degeneres, that was the point. Drew was making while your people. Your words. By the way, Mike Locklear. I just wanted to let you know that Locklear comes from a British origin, is derived from the profession of locksmithing. Sounds like you might be about as Indian as Elizabeth Warren. But I digress. Since I'm throwing knowledge about around. Let me remind you with. Let me remind you people about stolen land. We weren't the first people to conquer and take Indian land. The Indians did it. The Cherokees fought the Shawnee. The Sioux fought the Crow. The Comanche fought the Apache. Land was gained. Land was lost in these wars fought with primitive weapons. So your people can fight over land, but we can't. We were already superior when we finally met on the battlefield with the invention of the gun, the cannon and even the Gatling gun. We were sailing around the world while the Indians were still sailing in battleships called canoes. I say all this to say this. They were stuck in a primitive religion and culture that would always give primitive results. It's a good thing America took this place and brought their advanced way of thinking with them or you'd still be hunting buffaloes. You enjoy all the modern convenience of this amazing country and email me from a computer and the Internet that this country invented. And then lament over your people while still having the gall to brag about the Indian breakthroughs like wilderness survival, all natural medicine and hallucinogens. Well guess what? We don't need wilderness survival to stay alive anymore. And that's because of this great country. Enjoy your Wendy's and just say thank you. I don't want your natural 300 year old medicine. When I get a headache, I'll take my unnatural Tylenol. That works just like you do because we live in current times. In reality, if you want to go and live in a teepee and walk the walk and talk the talk, then please go. There's nothing wrong with that. But I would respect you a lot more if you did it the same way. I'd respect liberals more if they'd allow violent illegal criminals to live in their own homes or how they hate walls but live in gated communities. But you won't. You'll keep living it up in our modern society not brought to you by the American Indians. And you'll pretend how great they were. Did you know that violent crime rates and reservations are two and a half times higher than the national average? And some reservations reach as high as 20 times national than the. Than the. Than the. Than the nation. Did you also know the US government between 2017 and 21 alone gave American Indians $6.6 billion. We still gifted them after whooping them hundreds of years later. We've always given to them, and the only thing they have to show for it is finding loopholes and laws to start casinos. That is the greatest thing you could come up with. The Indians are no Japanese, that's for sure. So just be an American, which is what you are. So celebrate your actual greatness. Join the greatest tribe of all, call the United States of America.

[Tyler]

Well, now I know what you're doing when you're not answering your phone.

[Brent]

Don't you come at me with that.

[Drew]

That just happened.

[Brent]

Don't you come at me with that. All right.

[Tyler]

Did you spell Nissan wrong? Is there two S's in Nissan?

[Drew]

That's what you got out of that, you know.

[Tyler]

No, I'm just busting your balls. That was good.

[Brent]

That was good. I memorized that whole speech we talking about. There was nothing spell. I didn't spell anything out. I just memorized that.

[Tyler]

Was that up there? Are we all like this the whole time? Gosh, I read along.

[Brent]

Get out of here with that.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

Zulu Whiskey says, how do you just decide what guests you have on the show? Would you leave it up to a vote from the listeners?

[Brent]

We. We get guests from the show several different ways.

[Tyler]

Yeah, a lot of I'm. I mean. I mean, sometimes, like, when someone says, like, you should have my friend Joe on. He's cool. Like. Like, there's just a lot to come to it, because when we approach somebody, we have to theme an entire episode on it. So, like, Joe, I can't make it like, hey, we're here with Joe. And put Joe on the head. Like, I have to come up with, like, hey, what's Joe do? He's the first cop that blank. He's. He runs this organization. I can theme the whole show around that, but we gotta have a little bit more than just your friend Joe. And then. Then it comes down to. I mean, I'll be honest, Thursday Night Live, it comes down to how they get in here, because a lot of people go, will you. Will you pay for my logistics? And the way it is broken down is that if you are going to bring a show something. If you're going to bring something to the show, the show pays you to come on because they benefit more. If the show is going to bring you a platform to do what you need to do for your mission, you pay your own way. That's just kind of how it is. So lots goes into It.

[Steve Murphy]

I didn't know I was getting paid for being here. Nice.

[Drew]

Okay, cigars.

[Steve Murphy]

That's it.

[Tyler]

That's 20 right there.

[Brent]

That's right. There's gas money.

[Steve Murphy]

Thanks, Kelly.

[Tyler]

But yeah, if you guys had people, if you guys, you know, just let us know. Usually the Patreon. I never saw that Patreon message that the gentleman beforehand said, but there's a lot of people in our Patreons that check messages and stuff, so I'm going to put that blame on somebody else.

[Drew]

Kane Korsoff says the girl cops family seemed in kind of rough shape. What do you guys think of the idea that no success can make up for failure in the home? Drew, way into.

[Brent]

Drew, kick it off.

[Drew]

Well, I don't know anything about her family. I mean, it could be. Could be in rough shape. May not be. I mean, teenagers and young people do really stupid stuff. Even in good, good families, that does happen. But you are 100. No success can make up for failure in the home. Your home is your number one mission in life. If you. If you have a home, that's your number one mission. That's got to be your greatest success.

[Tyler]

We all know when you walk out the door to go tackle anything in life, if your home's all up, if you're in a fight with the old lady, if the kids got you stressed out it with everything. So your home's got to be right first.

[Brent]

Yeah. All right.

[Drew]

A different Zeta. Oh, this is the. This is who I accidentally kicked out when I booted one of the trolls.

[Tyler]

You made him pay again?

[Drew]

Oh, I. Oh, I. Oi, oi. Drew Peacock. Watch those fat finger bands. You annoyingly nice about it and said sorry in the chat. So now I can't talk too much. Much shite. Salute to the legend in the middle, the badass on the right, and the trans on the left.

[Tyler]

Well, it depends on the way you're looking at it.

[Brent]

Right. That's the first thing I was like, wait, which way? Which way?

[Steve Murphy]

I'm just glad I'm in the middle. All right.

[Drew]

Zulu whiskey. If the SAS had the same budget as the Delta Force, would they be as good or better than Delta? Why not?

[Brent]

I think they. I think they'd be as good. I do. I'd like. I think they'd be as good, not better.

[Tyler]

Where would the money come from? Usually how it works.

[Brent]

It is breaking my heart what's going on in the UK right now.

[Tyler]

The immigration stuff.

[Brent]

The immigration stuff. Their laws about what's considered.

[Tyler]

That's crazy. Yeah.

[Brent]

Social media post you Know, I saw a video the other day of a cop essentially harassing a guy at a restaurant because he told a person to speak more clearly because he couldn't understand them. He got reported as basically being a hate. As hate speech. And they were told like, well, he was telling him to speak English. And apparently you can't tell a foreigner to speak English. But the guy was like, no, I didn't tell him to speak English. I couldn't understand them. I just told him to speak week clearer.

[Drew]

That's the same thing.

[Brent]

And the cops are involved on that. Over a hate crime.

[Steve Murphy]

It's crazy. I wanna. I wanna kick in here on the Delta. I had the honor of working with Delta. I can't imagine anybody being any better. Not just because you're sitting here. That's honestly God feeling.

[Brent]

Well, I. I appreciate that. I. I feel the same way, but I try to be nice about it.

[Tyler]

Try to be humble about it. Do. Duder, do you agree. Do you agree that seals are more popular than the unit, primarily because they have more ops that went sideways, excluding books and movies?

[Brent]

No, I don't know if he was.

[Tyler]

Joking or he's dead serious.

[Brent]

Yeah, it's. If it's a serious question. What do they. Well, what's. What's the. What's the saying? Like, you know, there's. There's no. There's no. Right. So press is press. Yeah, but I don't believe that to be true because of the sideways mission missions that went bad. I mean, I don't think you get in the special ops community. You don't get famous for doing bad missions, you know, I mean, so I really think it has to do more about movies and books, I guess.

[Tyler]

Zulu whiskey, 20 bucks. Nothing there, though, but thanks, buddy. Todd Smith, 10 bucks. Nothing there. Thanks, dude. Duder. Rumor has it TK's nut sack is full of grenades too. Rudy Botello, 50 bucks. What's up, fellas? Found you guys through Valhalla school girling, knowing he was coming on. So I checked out the podcast and my balls immediately dropped after the first episode. I listened to it. Been binge listening ever since. Thanks, man.

[Brent]

Good.

[Tyler]

Awesome. Thanks for the 50 bucks.

[Brent]

I hope they don't hurt when they hit your knees. I assume that's how far they dropped after listening to us.

[Drew]

Craig said. Craig says. Brent, do you know Jeff Teagues? And would y'all be interested in having him on?

[Brent]

Absolutely. Jeff Teagues is a great man who's done great things both for his country. When he got out of the service doing non Profit work to rescue kids and a litany of other things. Jeff Teagues is a national treasure.

[Tyler]

Now. Do we have anything we got?

[Drew]

You want to look at some videos?

[Tyler]

Well, we. If we have one more super chat.

[Drew]

One more.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Ply Designs Request for the exit song. 20 bucks, get the list out. Rock the Kasbah by the Clash. Since tomorrow is the anniversary of Operation Praying Mantis, look it up. Mr. Murphy, sir, I love your story and your delivery.

[Steve Murphy]

Thank you very much.

[Tyler]

Game of crimes.

[Steve Murphy]

Honored to be here.

[Drew]

Todd Smith, just so you know.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, Steve, I'm wearing the right shirt today.

[Tyler]

Oh, he's wearing an anti hero shirt underneath.

[Drew]

He's got a superhero shirt underneath.

[Tyler]

Superman. Yeah.

[Drew]

Do you guys think the Little mermaid shite herself when she converted to a human for a day? She was just swimming around in the ocean, dumping whenever. Her whole life.

[Tyler]

I don't know what that means. The ocean just taking dumps in the ocean.

[Drew]

Whatever.

[Tyler]

And then you become a human and now you got to use a toilet.

[Brent]

She doesn't know what a toilet is now. Been dumping.

[Tyler]

Walking around, dumping on the sidewalk.

[Drew]

I've been watching that cartoon wrong this whole time.

[Steve Murphy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tyler]

I tell you what. We're gonna break away for some videos. I challenge you guys to show Steve some of the crazy scenarios that you guys make us pick through. And we're gonna make Steve pick through all of them. Would you rather fight. What is it, like a thousand tiny chihuahuas? Tiny, Tiny.

[Brent]

Would you rather. Yeah. Fight a. A, a 100 bulls that are chicken size or one bull sized chicken? Like something like that?

[Tyler]

And the. The debates get really interesting.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Damn.

[Brent]

I know.

[Steve Murphy]

There's going to be a test tonight. Out of study.

[Tyler]

All right. But let's hit the Instagram and let's check out some of these vids. Go up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up. Stop this guy. This is why. Okay, when you do police work, you have to be very careful that you're not going to end up on the Internet. But you also have to be when the adrenaline's going and you get tunnel vision. You have to be careful. This looks like a hurt. And because these street racers are super annoying and they. They're really irritating. Trying to take him down. Right. Whoa. Oh, I mean, that's bad.

[Steve Murphy]

Take him out.

[Brent]

Where you going, dad?

[Tyler]

What.

[Steve Murphy]

Is this?

[Drew]

An Asian woman turning this SUV around.

[Brent]

Did you just turn that whole vehicle around just to go check on them? You could have just ran. Haven't checked on him.

[Steve Murphy]

True.

[Tyler]

That was okay. It hurt. Yeah, it did. That's probably the end of the episode or the. But I mean, you got to be careful. I've watched, I've watched cops on these videos jump on convertibles and try to jump in the car. Like what are you going to do when a car takes off of me? And now you're in the car.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. Wow.

[Tyler]

This one. So this is in Miami. This is a year old case. Got kind of pushed under the rug, but then the body worn camera leaked and so now she's facing termination for shooting her partner.

[Brent]

Don't do that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I didn't think about myself.

[Drew]

I thought about saving lives.

[Brent]

A moment that left one Miami beach.

[Drew]

Cop with a bullet in his leg and another with her career hanging in the balance.

[Tyler]

One of my co workers is injured.

[Drew]

I never had a minute to process. Miami beach police officer Shaniqua Stringer speaking out for the first time since this friendly fire shooting of her co worker Fabio Bolanos. The 2024 accident came as Stringer responded to a call of a man with a gun on the Venetian Causeway. That suspect investigators said turned out to only be carrying a metal lighter. And as he was apprehended by Stringer, 1125 on arrival. Bolano's coming to help, but was shot by his co worker more than a year later. She recently learned. I'm facing termination. That really is a slap in the face. Miami beach police relieved her of duty pending an administrative process. But if she's fired, they will be shooed, dude. That promise comes from her attorney, Michael.

[Tyler]

Pizzey, and they will lose.

[Drew]

Pizzey and Stringer pointing out just a few months ago and well after the shooting, ranking members of the Miami Beach Police Department plan to promote her.

[Steve Murphy]

This as she's been hit on social media.

[Tyler]

I'm seeing all these comments. Oh, women.

[Drew]

Women shouldn't be in law enforcement. Di Hire, who hired her? That's a hard pill to swallow.

[Brent]

Reality can't be.

[Drew]

I cast it online and at work. She says she did nothing wrong on that bridge.

[Tyler]

What?

[Drew]

And by Florida statue.

[Brent]

If it looks like a gun, it's a gun.

[Tyler]

The only thing what I could have.

[Drew]

Done different was not respond to the call.

[Brent]

No, that's not me.

[Drew]

Stringer maintained she did not pull the trigger. So we asked her how that shot went off. That I could not tell you, sir. It could be that Officer Balanos caused the gun to go off.

[Tyler]

Wow.

[Drew]

Blame the cops. Issues with this particular model of gun. I've literally two agencies been doing this for 21 years and in 47 seconds.

[Tyler]

My professional career was ruined. Oh, and who's fault? It's not her fault. So. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't go putting the blame on her.

[Brent]

If I didn't know any better, I would think she was the victim of being shot.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, there, there's a lot here. Obviously there's to break down what she's talking about. But also her lawyer who is very confident actually has a great point. The fact that the admin were going to sweep this under the rug and promote her until the body worn camera leaked and it became a Nash. It became a viral incident. That's when they decided to go oh let's terminator. And they have a great case probably to say whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You were going to promote her.

[Brent]

Well but. But you could argue that more they saw when the body worn camera came to light, they learned more about the incident. So anytime you get new information you could have a different outcome.

[Tyler]

The admin of the police department knew exactly what happened. They conducted the investigation.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

You need to accept responsibility for your actions. If you made a mistake, you made a mistake. How much training do you go through to keep your finger off the trigger?

[Tyler]

Since day one.

[Steve Murphy]

Exactly.

[Tyler]

Holding a gun.

[Brent]

And for her to say it just went off, that means you were still pointing that gun at something you should have never been pointing that gun at. So even, even that excuse is off the table.

[Tyler]

She blamed the other officer and the gun manufacturer or the gun. I don't know.

[Drew]

Let me ask Tyler and Steve. So when you watch the video, this woman charges at the guy with her gun pointed at him, gets real close with the gun and then recognizes she's got to put hands on him and she's got her gun out. Share with us how that doesn't work because you can't take a guy down with one arm.

[Steve Murphy]

Right.

[Drew]

You.

[Steve Murphy]

Well, especially if you got a backup officer coming which is that guy was running. Yeah. You have one cover and you have one contact. She should have maintained cover until the backup officer got there and let him do the contact.

[Drew]

100.

[Steve Murphy]

She was too close. The bad guy could have grabbed her gun.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah, before I forget, we have the patreon winner today of 09. Holsters and Reardon sticker. Everyday patriot hat, guerrilla warfare tactical shirt, Zinton of Donald Trump Beretta concealed carry fanny pack and a dollar. This is going to Chuck Loner out of Texas. Thanks Chuck. And apparently he reached out and said why does Tyler never answer me me? So I'm assuming that he was sending messages to a personal account of mine in which I don't check the DMs too much on him. But send a message in Patreon and we'll answer it. That you are a member of. And that's the whole point of being a Patreon is to get a hold of us. So.

[Drew]

More super chats. Zooby Zooby says thoughts on Trump not wanting to bomb Iran for Israel.

[Tyler]

I don't know. I don't follow politics. Brent, you want to weigh in?

[Brent]

Thoughts on Trump not wanting to bomb Iran for Israel? I don't care if you bomb Iran for Israel or just for the bomb Iran.

[Tyler]

You had me at bomb Iran.

[Drew]

Just because he's not doing it now doesn't mean he's not willing to do it later.

[Brent]

Yeah, and I agree. I wouldn't bomb them for Israel. Israel has. Israel's more than capable with their air force to bomb Iran if they want to. So if we want to, it should be for our reasons, not for Israel. They can do it hard.

[Drew]

Stuck says, I know you're sponsored, but allegedly speaking, did you notice any serious effects from being on TRT at a young age in Special Forces and at the unit?

[Brent]

I did. I'm glad you brought that up. Some of the serious effects that I got was an increase in strength, a decrease in fat, a lot more muscles, an increased hunger to feed this new machine and got really horny so that. Be careful of the side effects.

[Tyler]

That hat. That sucks. When you're overseas, the dudes not taking TRT start looking very feminine.

[Brent]

That's why they also have to be on TRT to defend themselves.

[Tyler]

Yeah, you can't be that guy.

[Brent]

That's right.

[Drew]

All right, here it comes. Steve Blight design says, would you rather fight a chicken?

[Brent]

Here we go.

[Drew]

Would you rather fight a chicken every time you get in your car? This is inside the cab of your car. Or an orangutan with a sword. Once a year, both of you get swords. And if you kill him, a new one follows the details.

[Tyler]

They take out all questions.

[Brent]

Both of you get a sword.

[Tyler]

I think I'd rather fight an orangutan with a sword once a year.

[Brent]

Because here's. Here's.

[Tyler]

You can train for it.

[Brent]

We've had this. That's right. Because the orangutan, that sword will be useless to him. You know, he's not gonna. He's gonna end up just throwing it away. You cannot train an orangutan to fight with a sword.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. But being a country boy, you can grab a chicken and ring its nose.

[Drew]

Just kick the chicken.

[Tyler]

But every time you get in your car.

[Steve Murphy]

That'd be a little rough.

[Tyler]

I guess you could just train for your back it with the orangutan once a year.

[Brent]

That's right, once a year.

[Tyler]

Just get it out of the three months out. Just go into a hardcore training camp.

[Brent]

Fly the chicken every time. You get in your car three or four times a day.

[Tyler]

This is a serious podcast.

[Steve Murphy]

You guys are killing me.

[Brent]

We cover serious topics, obviously.

[Drew]

All right, we're not done, Steve. Dude, duder says fight Mike Tyson one round or speak like him for life.

[Brent]

The guy's undefeated.

[Steve Murphy]

Just knock me out, knock me out, be done with it.

[Tyler]

That's a really great question, dude.

[Brent]

Could you imagine you couldn't run around the ring for three minutes to get. It's not big enough. You mean you're going down?

[Tyler]

He's gonna find you.

[Brent]

He's gonna find you. He's gonna get in the corner.

[Steve Murphy]

Well, he's already proven that, you know, nothing's off the table.

[Brent]

Bite him. Oh, for sure. And you can put your hands up all you want. He's gonna. He's gonna punch through your hands. He's gonna punch your.

[Tyler]

There's gonna be no guard. It's just gonna be right.

[Brent]

He's gonna punch you. You're hand so hard that your hand knocks you out. You know, count so you got to do it again.

[Tyler]

Oh, gosh.

[Brent]

Hold on. How old is Mike Tyson? Cuz I just saw him fight. He didn't. He didn't. He wasn't as impressive.

[Tyler]

I think he threw the fight.

[Drew]

He was pretty flow.

[Brent]

I think, I think he did too. I didn't want to believe it at first, but I think he did too. What magnet did Mike Tyson throw the fight? 100%, he said yeah, but it hurt.

[Steve Murphy]

Him all the way to the bank, right?

[Brent]

Gosh, I was rooting for him. The whole country was rooting for him and for him to. For him to flop like that.

[Tyler]

Wait, Drew, go back to the. Let's watch it.

[Drew]

Yeah, I was good.

[Tyler]

This one.

[Drew]

Here we go.

[Tyler]

Watch this.

[Brent]

The most pathetic arrest I've ever seen in my life.

[Tyler]

I mean, look at this.

[Brent]

Yo, what moron put these two together, man? We got Paulina Blart. Watch what happens when the one falls off.

[Drew]

Paulina Blart.

[Tyler]

Watch this. This.

[Brent]

Why did she even falls up? Meanwhile, her partner's chasing her with a taser running a 40 minute mile. My life's in danger. These two show up. See you guys in heaven. The most pathetic arrest, the one that.

[Tyler]

Falls and just goes, oh, that's.

[Steve Murphy]

Oh, where is that where that happen at?

[Tyler]

Oh, who knows? Everywhere in a local police. Near you.

[Steve Murphy]

Oh my gosh.

[Tyler]

Damn.

[Brent]

I, I hate covering those things. I love they're, they're. It's entertaining but it's, it's, it's embarrassing at the same time. Like that's, that's insane.

[Steve Murphy]

You know, you, and you, you can't, you can't just lay on the ground.

[Brent]

Going, yeah, what even made her fall down? Like that's how unathletic she is. Nothing really should have made her fall.

[Tyler]

Did the fall hurt to where she had to scream?

[Brent]

I think the scream was to ensure that she got the proper compensation.

[Tyler]

My back.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, she's, yeah, she's probably true. Yeah, she's no longer working well, she was so fat.

[Tyler]

She's like a turtle and she can't get up.

[Brent]

Yeah, she's getting paid eight grand a month for rest of her life now.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

You want me to do it? You got it.

[Drew]

Oh, I finally woke up.

[Tyler]

All right. Charlie Elliott for a hundred bucks. Long time listener, first time commentator.

[Steve Murphy]

Wow.

[Tyler]

Love what you guys do and thank you for all the truth. Going through FRCC debating on what cigar to get get for the boys.

[Brent]

The Delta. I know that camouflage one is super cool, so if you're going for the cool factor, the Delta Limited and a camouflage cigar always wins. But my favorite everyday smoke is still the Delta. So it's a win, win situation. Go with one of those, you're golden.

[Drew]

My favorite's the Maduro, the Bravo. So if you get yourself a sample pack, you can't lose. Not at all. Zulu Whiskey. Would you guys ever do some shooting videos? Would be cool to see you guys do a head to head with the IDPA 5 by 5 classifier.

[Tyler]

The hell is that? I'm gonna lose that one already. I don't even know what that is.

[Brent]

Here's the thing. Shooting is a, is a, it's a perishable skill. I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh, I'm not good at shooting anymore. But I, I'm, I'm not just gonna show up to the range like a.

[Drew]

Little train up like I never left.

[Brent]

The Delta Force, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's tough.

[Drew]

Dustin Cook says, did you guys see the video of the woman saying Austin Metcalf got what he deserved? That's just getting sick. It's, that whole thing's getting sick.

[Brent]

I'm telling you. I, I, of course I'm waiting for, I'm interested in some of the details. Because now we've had a lot of misinformation and now. Now it's getting to a point where what's the truth, you know, what's. What's not the truth. And I know like to some degree we know what's. We know. We know for sure what. Some of it's not the truth. He didn't break his phone. Like, that wasn't. That wasn't the truth. But I. We need to see exactly. I need to see the facts, Wait for the court case to. To come out and see what. See what the facts are.

[Tyler]

It's kind of like at the end.

[Brent]

Of the day, nothing. I say that nothing warrants getting stabbed in the heart. So he's wrong all day long. But I'd like to see what the facts are.

[Drew]

Well, the most racist people in this country, they're just getting all over it.

[Steve Murphy]

So that's how it works.

[Brent]

Yeah, but, oh, I. I did see like one per. Like an eyewitness there say that. That like he was getting bullied and both guys were just about to jump him. And so. Or. Or taking a swing on him. It like really meant he's like. And I was there. I saw it. And here's the problem. Like, I want. I want to believe that to some degree because someone who was there was like, let me get to the bottom of it. But then again, I saw eyewitnesses with the Michael Brown shooting, hands up, don't shoot. He had his hands up and said, don't shoot. Those were eyewitnesses. And that proved to be categorically false. So I'm a little tired of that. All right.

[Drew]

Nate Taylor says, would you rather fight a dozen otter sized camels or fly into the upper at atmosphere with Katy Perry?

[Brent]

Is it just me and Katie?

[Drew]

Looks like it.

[Brent]

What happens in space stays in space.

[Tyler]

How you land Brent. What happened to Katy Perry?

[Brent]

How. How high do you have to go to where laws don't. Don't apply anymore?

[Drew]

I know it's not international waters. It's like universal space. Brits Camaro says some guy got mad that I cut the line at Chipotle. I told him, you can't hold an eagle down.

[Brent]

Can't.

[Drew]

Marika Murica. Yeah, it's a running joke. They like to hear me say it the wrong way.

[Tyler]

So one time he read that and Drew, he's. He's reading in real time. He doesn't have a lot of time to like, decipher what. And someone put America and Drew went marika. And it just Kind of stuff.

[Drew]

Yeah, those are not the fouls in America. All right? Would you rather fight a bear alone in the woods or get pulled over by a female cop? God, what she looked like.

[Brent]

Get pulled over by a female cop all day long because I can't overpower that bear.

[Steve Murphy]

But what if it was Katy Perry? It was the female cop.

[Brent]

Even better. Let's. Let's get hands on.

[Tyler]

Nothing more dangerous than a female cop that feels threatened.

[Brent]

Gosh, isn't that the truth?

[Drew]

I don't want to see Oprah cry again.

[Brent]

She'll mess. The safest place to be is where a female cop's aiming. That's why that guy got shot. Yeah, because that wasn't where she was in proof.

[Drew]

It was the gun.

[Brent]

The gun. It was the gun.

[Drew]

Hightower, Hightower, 1999. I have an answer about SAS. They are the former redcoats. We're gonna get in trouble. The Indians. They are the former redcoats. The lost the Revolutionary war. World War I and two America. US number one. D comes from before. S waiting on Hooten. Ever smoke their cigar? Situation Allen. Muzzle awareness. Shite. Bag.

[Brent]

Yeah. Oh, stuck.

[Drew]

Yeah, I'm reading too fast.

[Tyler]

I think they said they're waiting on Hooting as a guest. Guest?

[Brent]

Yeah, I just. I just talked to Norm yesterday. In fact, we're going to be his. His cigar company is going to be at the NRA with our cigar company. Actually.

[Drew]

Actually, we'll be at the same show.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be at the same show one aisle over from each other. I actually called him to. To apologize. Uh, I didn't know they were going to be there. I don't know. Anyone can go to any show they want to, but the truth is, they have a pretty big presence at nra, and I wouldn't have gone there if I'd have known they were there, but. So I had to call them and say, hey, we. We have a booth there. I didn't know you guys are going to be there.

[Tyler]

Gotta ask for forgiveness.

[Brent]

It just felt like the right thing to do. Norm didn't care. He was super nice about it. And I smoked their cigars as well. I've smoked a ton of their cigars. They're great cigars.

[Tyler]

I really wish you would have been like, oh, do you mind backing out?

[Drew]

I am unbiasedly gonna say I still like the frcc.

[Steve Murphy]

Bravo.

[Drew]

But the Hooten's got it. Hoot's got a good, good cigar.

[Tyler]

I'm liking my lion arm cigar. What kind of cigar Is it Maduro? I ran out of cigars and magnet. Had a plethora of them and hooked me up.

[Brent]

Nicaraguan as well. Nice.

[Drew]

Nate Taylor, which lower level primate, in your opinion, is easier to teach kung fu? Oh, gosh. Capuchin. Capuchin. Capuchins or chimps? Spider monkeys are more suited for ninjutsu.

[Tyler]

I don't.

[Brent]

I did not know that about spider monkeys. Did you?

[Steve Murphy]

No.

[Brent]

No. See?

[Tyler]

Are we sure?

[Brent]

I assume it is. If it's in a super chat, you can take it to the bank.

[Tyler]

They did the research.

[Brent]

That's right. He did his research.

[Drew]

Guess it rather teach a chimp kung fu. Chimp's supposed to be smart. They'll eat your face off. Now that's a kung fu move right there. What's the kung fu move that eats your face, Ryan Ashworth? I choke a chicken every day. Literally or figuratively. Sometimes in the car. Oh, yeah, I choked an orangutan. That's a big one. Once, but it wasn't mine. I don't want to talk about it.

[Steve Murphy]

Okay, I'm not touching that one, you guys.

[Brent]

Oh, man. Ryan.

[Tyler]

Sure, there was a question in there.

[Brent]

Talk about it.

[Steve Murphy]

But it wasn't his.

[Brent]

That's right. Yeah. Hey, Zach.

[Drew]

Full of nades. 50 bucks. Thanks, brother. There have been a lot of women hating this episode.

[Tyler]

Women hating, not women hating.

[Drew]

A lot of. Oh, women hating on this episode, I guess. All right, Grammatic, you should check out this female cop in Boston who has a unique physical abnormality and was still able to climb the admin ladder.

[Tyler]

I don't get it.

[Drew]

Some say it actually helped her make rank. Her name is Enorma Stitz.

[Brent]

She could still climb the ladder due to her physical abnormality. Unique physical abnormality.

[Drew]

Two unique physical abnormalities.

[Brent]

Yes.

[Tyler]

I've never heard a normness.

[Steve Murphy]

Say it fast.

[Brent]

Yes, it's been a good episode. It's been a good one.

[Drew]

Sun Wukong. Question for Mr. Murphy. I've saw an interview where he spoke about getting Pablo. He also mentioned he's against legalization. With the effectiveness on the drug war, why shouldn't we treat drugs like booze? Cheers, boys.

[Steve Murphy]

Why should we make it easier for people to hurt themselves? We've got booze. That's. That should be plenty.

[Tyler]

How would they hurt themselves with weed?

[Steve Murphy]

Weed has no medicinal purpose. I don't care what anybody says. If you think it does, send through these guys. Send me a report. Because there's not a legitimate report out there.

[Tyler]

Well, it's because. Well, I mean, you could get into conspiracies about how they don't want to legitimize marijuana. Marijuana is a Schedule 1 narcotic in the national scale.

[Steve Murphy]

Right.

[Tyler]

That's insane. That's before heroin.

[Steve Murphy]

Well, it's the same level, actually. Heroin has a medicinal purpose through opium. It's a pain medication. But there. There are no. And there's a. There's a lady on my Patreon channel that suffers from chronic pain, and she says smoking weed alleviates her pain. I don't care. I mean, I'm happy that that does it for her. I think it's more psychological than physiological.

[Drew]

There.

[Steve Murphy]

It's. My oldest son is a doctor. I ask him to, you know, research it regularly for me to find me a credible report. They don't exist. And the only reason that they wanted to legalize. Look at who's pushing legalization. It's not the people that smoke weed. It's corporate people who grow it. Yeah, they're paying. Why would somebody pay tens of millions of dollars in Florida to legalize marijuana? What's in it for them?

[Tyler]

Money.

[Steve Murphy]

And then, you know, I love it when you're driving down the road and you see a handmade sign that says, get your medical marijuana card. Call this number. Does that. Would you go to a doctor that put the handwritten sign on the side of the road?

[Brent]

It's not how I'd get my. My medicine, but some people bitch when.

[Steve Murphy]

I say this, but it's. It is a gateway drug. And if you think back when I was a small kid, you know, one of our buddies stole a beer from his dad's refrigerator. We tried that. We all survived. We thought, well, let's try something else. We tried wine. Then somebody gets a bottle of liquor, it just continually grows. So I've never smoked weed. I don't know if it's good or bad. I will never smoke weed. But I think it's ridiculous that we're considering legalizing it.

[Tyler]

A lot of people would disagree with you, Steve, A lot.

[Steve Murphy]

I mean, probably in this room here.

[Drew]

And I would like. And I would like you looking at Magnet.

[Tyler]

He looks like he smokes weed, but he don't.

[Drew]

I would add a lot of those people that disagree with them are a lot younger than his. Him too.

[Steve Murphy]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler]

I'd like to get you talking with John Burke. He's a. He's a THC advocate, but he does it for veterans and, you know, all the things that you've heard. But I. I'd like to. I'm just not educated enough on it.

[Steve Murphy]

To debate there's I mean, you go on there. Even cbd. I wish that. I wish the Food and Drug Administration would do some tests on CBD because I suffer from arthritis.

[Tyler]

I take CBD talk. Oh, no, I don't.

[Steve Murphy]

Not on the show anyway.

[Brent]

No, you've never told me that.

[Steve Murphy]

I would love for him to find a snake of argument that helps my arthritis, but there's no test out there.

[Tyler]

But have you tried it?

[Steve Murphy]

No.

[Tyler]

How would you know?

[Steve Murphy]

Because it hasn't been tested.

[Brent]

You know, here's just the, the other side of the coin from a person who's never smoked weed in my life. And I understand the argument like, well, booze is bad enough. Why do we need two things that are bad? But here's the other side of the argument from someone who's never smoked weed, who's, who's become pro, pro weed legalizing it for these particular reasons. It's more economic. And here's the argument one, we're losing the war on drugs. We have spent so much money on the war on drugs. And where are we winning it? We're not winning it. We have huge task forces just for this and we're not winning it. My other thing is, hey, let them. If someone wants to do weed, more of a kind of a libertarian type viewpoint, let them do it. In a weird way, they're only hurting themselves. So let them hurt themselves. And then from a, you know, a citizen viewpoint, then let's, let's free up the jail space, let's tax the hell out of it and let's take that money and fund law enforcement over it and, and free up these people who are in this losing war and put them towards something that we can actually make an impact with. So that's, you know, that's, that's more of like my argument for it.

[Tyler]

It.

[Brent]

And alcohol has done way more damage than weed has ever done and could ever do. And I. So if that's legal, then, then, and as long as, as long as alcohol is legal. How could you say that weed cannot be legal? Would be the, the argument. There's some of those. So several, several points. Those are my points to that.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah. And alcohol is bad. It causes, you know, different liver disease and, and cirrhosis and everything that goes along with that. Marijuana. We're seeing studies coming out on a regular basis now. I think you're six times recently came out says if you smoke weed regularly, you're six times, six times more susceptible to heart disease.

[Brent]

Good.

[Steve Murphy]

What? Kill them off?

[Brent]

Yeah, I know it sounds bad, but.

[Tyler]

I disagree with the legalization. Have you seen people say like legalize everything? It kind of the same mindset. I know you're just talking about weed.

[Brent]

Right.

[Tyler]

But people have said like legalize everything. The problem is, is that when it's not your 16 year old kid out there. Right. I don't want my 16 year old kid being around legal narcotics everywhere. I want, I want, I would want it to be the hardest thing for him to get is narcotics. Right. So I'm not an advocate of that. I'm not an advocate, but I mean I just don't think weed is.

[Brent]

What's, what's Orange County's policy on, on marijuana usage right now? If you're driving around and you, and you see a dude on the corner smoking a blunt, you're gonna go to restaurant. No, I mean we've, we've essentially societally, culturally. Yes, we've culturally legalized it.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Like we have.

[Steve Murphy]

Well and, and go back to that war on drugs. That's the biggest misnomer the government's ever come up with.

[Brent]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Because we're going after, we're going after the world's first narco terrorist in Pablo Escobar.

[Brent]

Right.

[Steve Murphy]

A man who's responsible for up to 80% of the world's cocaine. The world's cocaine, 80% of the market. Market. What do we send after him? Two guys.

[Tyler]

I love it.

[Steve Murphy]

It's just. Right, it's rhetoric.

[Drew]

It's what we needed.

[Tyler]

Right. I mean.

[Brent]

Right.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Everybody's got their opinions on it.

[Tyler]

Legalizing marijuana would make sure that there's no fentanyl in it. Now I mean you can't guarantee. I will say this with government regulated substances you can guarantee that there's not going to be, be random ass fentanyl in any everything. It's in everything now.

[Steve Murphy]

That's true, that's true.

[Brent]

But it's a, it's a self licking ice cream cone.

[Tyler]

I like it. I just don't know what that means. Which means I'm gonna say that randomly.

[Brent]

Yeah, which, which means, hey, basically you want, you want to do drugs and it's laced with something and it kills you. There's, there's one, there's, there's one less drug user. I know that sounds shitty, but hey you, it is a risk that you know you're taking. Speaking.

[Tyler]

Do you think like a 16 year old kid though, smoking weed is, should be subject to that, that same mindset?

[Drew]

Good question.

[Tyler]

You get what you want, you get what you ask for because they're retarded. I mean Right.

[Steve Murphy]

And. And there are studies that show that the. As teenagers are developing until you hit your mid-20s, marijuana is having a detrimental effect on your development of your brain.

[Tyler]

I believe it.

[Steve Murphy]

And that. And that's a legitimate study. I know.

[Brent]

But, but so are. So are these. These. These sort of these psychological meds that we're giving kids for adhd. And, and, and we give those by the. By. By the, by the wheelbarrow load. And no one cares about that.

[Drew]

We got a wheelbarrow load of problems.

[Steve Murphy]

And see, Max is against it over here also. He came over to give me support.

[Drew]

He did Plight Designs back in for Dude Duder. So his wife doesn't get mad. Did you guys see that? Dakota Meyer. Is that how you say his name?

[Brent]

Yep. Yeah.

[Drew]

Medal of Honor recipient, reenlisted the Marine Corps. He came back as an E5 as old rank.

[Brent]

Yeah, I heard he was going to do that. So I'm not. I'm not surprised about it.

[Drew]

Whoa, Anthony, what is the rest of this name?

[Brent]

Hold on. What's THB though?

[Drew]

Thb?

[Brent]

What's thb?

[Tyler]

Dang it.

[Drew]

I don't remember.

[Brent]

Someone find out what THB is. If it's. I don't give you pesos, but you know, if it's. If it's like yen.

[Drew]

I don't know. Okay, that makes sense.

[Tyler]

All right, somebody Google the THB currency rate to American dollar. Are you serious?

[Brent]

$12. Okay. All right, everyone.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

12 bucks. Bring it down. Anthony, thank you for the 12. What is Brent's candid opinion on Shrek Maphee? I have a hard time believing half the things that come out of his mouth. The guy strikes me as a major douchebag.

[Tyler]

You would have gotten a better answer for 400 bucks.

[Brent]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anthony, I'd say you have a keen eye for. For, for. For characteristic traits.

[Drew]

Salvador says Tyler, which TV cop would you choose? Chief Wiggum of The Simpsons or T.J. hooker played by William Shatner?

[Brent]

Do you remember. Do you remember T.J. hooker?

[Tyler]

I don't. I'm a little young.

[Drew]

He's pretty old.

[Tyler]

Chief Wiggum was more my. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think.

[Drew]

Plight Designs.

[Brent]

Are you getting out of the question because you don't know who.

[Tyler]

I don't really.

[Brent]

I don't know who they both are.

[Tyler]

Know what I'm choosing them for?

[Brent]

He's going with the Simpsons.

[Drew]

That was pretty easy. He's going with the Simpsons.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Drew]

All right. By default, which one would you rather fight Mr. Murphy? I'm a huge history buff. Plight Designs.

[Tyler]

Is he Is he'll send you books.

[Drew]

Yeah, he's in the library. He's a great guy. I am a huge history buff buff and wanted to know if you have any stories about the personnel that supported you guys behind the scenes on your hunt. I have heard stories.

[Steve Murphy]

The sigint.

[Drew]

SIGINT guys were the ones who helped most.

[Steve Murphy]

Yep, that's true. Because they found Pablo Escobar through. It's declassified now, Operation Center Spike, which was a CIA operation, and basically it was just a plane flying over Medellin listening to signals. But the true heroes of this whole thing of the Columbia National Police, because it was a Colombian police lieutenant that taught himself how to use radio directional finding equipment, that his first place, on December 2, 1993, the first place he sent the crew in to hit was an empty warehouse. He realized there was a body of water close by. Water affects the way radio frequencies travel through the air. He recalibrated, rode down the street, and saw Escobar looking out the window at him. So those are the heroes there.

[Brent]

Nice.

[Tyler]

Somebody asked Steve how realistic was narcos on Netflix?

[Steve Murphy]

Good question.

[Brent]

And how would you know?

[Steve Murphy]

Here's what we came up with about the first two seasons about Escobar. About a third of it's true. The first third, those events happen. They're depicted correctly. The second third, those events happen, but they've been either events combined or they've been greatly dramatized to make a good show. And the last third is just straight up make believe Hollywood. I was never kidnapped by the Cali cartel. My partner wasn't passing classified information to Los Pepys. But one thing I like to put out. Pull. You know, bring to everybody's attention here is the one thing is absolutely true, is that of your opinion. My partner was a manslut. That part's true.

[Tyler]

As depicted.

[Steve Murphy]

Yep.

[Brent]

Depicted.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Drew]

All right. Want to show her?

[Brent]

You. You got.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

There we go. This is Tyler's new cruiser.

[Brent]

Yeah, I wish.

[Drew]

Now, that's tax dollars hard at work right there, boys.

[Tyler]

That thing is sexy.

[Steve Murphy]

There's not a cop in the world that would not want to drive that cruiser.

[Brent]

Oh, man. And just when you thought Florida Highway Patrol couldn't get any cooler, watch some.

[Tyler]

Dumbass mess pit a car with that.

[Steve Murphy]

My buddy out in the Idaho.

[Brent]

So I saw some comments in that. In that. That video that was like, oh, you know, what a waste of tax dollars. As if you guys couldn't figure this out on your own. The Florida Highway Patrol did not go to the local Chevrolet Dealership and buy a brand new C8 that is a confiscated drug dealer's car and that they, that they confiscated with a, a task force between. Between the Florida Highway Patrol and the dea. So that's exactly how you should get your cars.

[Tyler]

And they're lucky that that drug dealer paid that car off. Yeah.

[Brent]

What were you saying about that?

[Tyler]

It's a. If there's a lien on the car, if the bank. If the bank owns it, then.

[Brent]

Yeah. So if they're still making payments harder cops. Because you're punishing the bank at this point. Yeah.

[Steve Murphy]

Now you, you can. If, you know, if it's not too big of a nut left on that thing, the, the government will pay it off, but the bank has to agree to it.

[Tyler]

The feds.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I don't think local government's going to pay that.

[Brent]

Yeah, I love that. You know, Georgia Highway Patrol, where you at?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Drug dealers don't fully pay off your car.

[Brent]

Georgia State. What's gsp?

[Tyler]

Gsp, yeah.

[Brent]

Georgia State Patrol, they're going to go.

[Tyler]

Buy a Ferrari now with the taxpayers money. You're welcome.

[Brent]

They would buy a foreign car. Florida still wins. Sorry, go ahead. When we're done with this, I actually have the, the excerpt from the. The book about. About. About what Mike Kennedy did. And I'd just like to. To run it, run the, the details by you, see if any of it makes sense to you.

[Steve Murphy]

All right.

[Drew]

Sun Wukong says now that I've rattled the cage on drugs, you should definitely teach chimps karate so they can kill the chickens and you don't need to free chicken. Also with Pablo, was Task Force Orange involved much?

[Steve Murphy]

I don't know what Task Force Orange is, so.

[Brent]

No, no, the. The Sig it provided was from the CIA.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Drew]

All right. John Inman, 100 bucks. Thank you for the love, brother. Happy Easter, fellas. Christ is risen.

[Steve Murphy]

Right on.

[Drew]

He's risen indeed. How awesome is it to know that even with all the craziness going on, we can rest assured that because he rose from the dead, we need not fear not what may come. Repent and believe on only he who can save Christ is king.

[Steve Murphy]

Right on.

[Tyler]

I like how he was capitalized. Absolutely.

[Steve Murphy]

Yep.

[Tyler]

Love it.

[Drew]

100.

[Brent]

Love the respect.

[Drew]

100. All right, brother.

[Brent]

All right. Here. Here's. Here's the full story. Here's. Here's what was. Some things just jump out to me. All right. This is an excerpt from his book, Tim Kennedy, the Scars and Stripes. I hear the phone ringing through the closet door. I look at my dad and he tells me to say dad is out running errands and he should be back at the house by 6:00. I opened the closet door and there was a red phone ringing. I pick it up and answer using our family pseudonym for these occasions. So what they had, what he says they had was a. A fake phone in the closet. That was a cover phone. So his dad was doing undercover work. But they, they knew like everyone should have a house phone number. So he says that they installed a phone for them and that him as a kid could pick up the phone and be trusted to keep his dad's cover story. That's crazy to me. I don't know if I'm letting a kid answer the phone and. And answer a Colombian drug lord about who we are, what we're doing and maintain a cover story. I don't know who would have agree to that.

[Steve Murphy]

How old was Tim supposed to be at that time?

[Brent]

I think eight. So going back, just how, just how crazy that a man with a Colombian accent who I've spoken to many times, answers the other end. Hey buddy, is your dad home? Sorry, he isn't. Dad is out running errands and he should be back at the house by 6:00. Do you want to leave a message? No, that's okay. I'll call back later. Response I hang up and grab some Kool aid and run outside and play with the Creek gang. Today we're running missions. Stupid stuff. The phone call is everyday life for a kid of a narcotics officer. It's probably a lot of responsibility for a 13 year old. But it's just as we have always known. So I never really think much about it. In order to keep my dad's cover safe, we have to be available all the time, just like a real family. If my dad or my dad's family only answered the phone between 9 to 5, then they know he's a cop and they'd kill him. So the police installed a special untraceable phone in our closet. Closet. And our family joined in the COVID identity to add depth to his story. It's our mission to keep my dad safe so he can keep the country safe. We take this mission very seriously.

[Steve Murphy]

Okay. I believe the part about installing a phone.

[Brent]

Okay.

[Steve Murphy]

Because we would have undercover phones that we would forward. We didn't put a phone in, we would have it forwarded. You know, and this was back before encryption and you know, all the devices we have available today. But letting a 13 year old answer the phone, I wouldn't in my House.

[Brent]

That's pretty crazy going on A dad had an enormous mission right now. He just stole a plane full of cocaine from Pablo Escobar. More precisely, he just stole the largest cachet of cocaine that up to this point has ever been stolen. That's part of an interagency counter narcotics tax force task force. It's extremely dangerous because if the Colombians figure it out who he is, he's dead. In addition, the local police are not allowed to know about about it. So there's always the added danger of unwanted police interaction as he's running around town with drugs. U. S. Customs, the FBI and the San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counter narcotics task force are in the know. Every other agency has to be in the dark. The drugs flying from Colombia to Puerto Rico or Guantanamo Bay. There they get packed onto another plane and fly to Port Haname outside of Ventura. Once there, my dad and his fellow officers dress in 1980s suits or Hawaiian shirts and carry uzis. Load the coke into vans, trucks and Cadillacs with secret compartments and bring them to their office to prepare for distribution. Dad's consulting firm has two offices, one in Marina del Rey. It's a pimped out 80 style office building that is completely bugged. There is a big conference room and a bunch of actual employees that make real wages for just sitting around. When a client comes in, they all pretend to work. Thinking back, it was probably a good gig anyway. It just, it goes, it goes on and on from there. What do you think about that story? Just on.

[Steve Murphy]

All right, so they're saying the largest load that was ever shipped up to date. There are documented cases where they use 727s that are bringing thousands of kilos. Is that what he, you think that's what he's saying in that book? Because that would be.

[Brent]

He doesn't give the, he doesn't give you enough details and that. But it's, it's a, it's a crazy story. I just. Yeah, I hate saying like nothing in this book could ever be true. Just because he lied about a whole bunch of things doesn't mean lied about a hundred percent of things. But again, if there were so.

[Steve Murphy]

Excuse me. We've had undercover operations where you set up storefront operations. You don't hire non law enforcement to come in there there you might have informants coming in there, but you don't have people sitting around doing nothing all.

[Brent]

Day just, just to be a store, just to be a pretend storefront.

[Steve Murphy]

You might have a, you might have an undercover like I know a female agent. She was GBI and then dea. Who was one of our dearest friends was running a money laundering operation. She's from Georgia. She speaks Georgia, but she's a fluent Spanish speaker. She was perfect because the bad guys would come in and they would talk in front of her. Not thinking that she could understand that she was able to interpret everything. But she was a bona fide, you know, okay, gun toting agent. You're not gonna have non agents in there doing that.

[Brent]

Well, I'm gonna go on a limb and say as a 13 year old, he was not running undercover operations, assisting his dad in undercover operations. And his dad probably didn't steal the largest cocaine to date.

[Steve Murphy]

I think I would have heard about that. But there's one other story I gotta tell you. There's. I'm not going to mention his name because I have the utmost respect. But this guy was an agent. I've worked for him a couple times in my career. His dad is a legendary de agent up in New York City. And they would be in the Bronx or wherever in Queens or whatever chasing people around and they're following somebody. And he would bring my buddy when he was 10 and 12 years old in the car because he's going to blend in. And this is back in the old days when a guy would go in an apartment building. They had no way of knowing where he was going in there. He'd send his kid and to see what door the guy went into which.

[Brent]

Apartment and see that.

[Steve Murphy]

So there are crazy stories out there like that, but I don't.

[Brent]

Yeah, and that's a hard time. Clear. That's not a hit on. On Mike Kennedy, his dad. That's. That's Tim telling those stories.

[Tyler]

Well, here's the question. Is Mike Kennedy still alive?

[Brent]

He is. I've tried. I've tried to reach out to him before but to no avail as of yet.

[Steve Murphy]

Who did he work for?

[Brent]

Make sure. I think it said it in there. So I'm going to make sure that I say the right thing.

[Steve Murphy]

I don't. I don't remember that name. I would be surprised if that's true.

[Brent]

I would too. That. That makes. That makes two of us.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna hit some super chats real quick. High tower. That's an old school mindset. Mr. Sackler. Thy fail.

[Drew]

They failed.

[Tyler]

Oh, they failed with the war on drugs. Here's proof that there's cartels are rampant land Every pipeline company is full of them Brits. Camaro. Hey. Ender's game was pretty good.

[Brent]

Love that movie.

[Tyler]

What's another movie or book? That's pretty good. Thanks, boys.

[Brent]

Do you. Do you remember the movie Ender's Game? Do you remember by chance, this is also a well named book? Oh, I won't ruin it. Gotta watch it.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, gotta watch it.

[Brent]

E N D E R S Enders Game? The ending is great and it's. It's a great, like, kind of like what's right, like moral, you know, type ending to it, you know, that makes you question, does it. Does the end justify the means? You know, type thing. It's great.

[Tyler]

Another. Well, a movie like that, that gets. You think. There's a movie called. I think it's called Unthinkable with Samuel Jackson. Where have you ever seen that?

[Brent]

No, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna completely turn this. This subject around for a second. But it's. But it's on things I've watched and.

[Tyler]

Does it start Samuel Jackson?

[Brent]

No, no, I just binge watched three seasons of Love on the Spectrum. Love it. For real? Yes. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. If you guys haven't watched those autistic.

[Tyler]

Are you watching for them or at them?

[Brent]

Okay, it's done well.

[Drew]

It's done well.

[Brent]

But. But you and up being the biggest fans of these guys, you just like, man, I hope they find love. But they're. They're so funny. They just say whatever's on their mind, you know, just unfiltered. They're hilarious. Gotta watch it. I know. I didn't think I'd like it either, but Devin's like, you gotta watch this. It's. It's great. And she was right. And then I did that same thing. Drew. And Drew got caught up too.

[Drew]

I mean, even their family laughs at them on the funny things that they say. Like, you know, when your mom's monologuing and the autistic guy says, when are you gonna stop talking?

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, if you did that in my house, you'd got slapped.

[Drew]

I know, but you can't get mad at him, you know, it's a great show. It's done well.

[Brent]

And here's the other thing that I learned. I'm so tired of people saying, oh, you know, I have autism and they're normal people. No, you don't stop saying you have autism until you watch that show and you see how what real autism is. You don't have autism. Shut up.

[Steve Murphy]

Oh, everybody thinks they're on the spectrum now.

[Tyler]

Day Taylor. Yeah, Tim answered the red phone Much. Much like the time I provided Overwatch for my old man on his traffic stops and take your kid to work day. Last two neurons are done. Thanks, Brent. Sometimes I wish Marines would get out there and write books and movies. Then I hear this crap, and I'm thankful someone's a silent pro. Or just too salty.

[Brent]

That's the book I want that I want to read. The salty book. Just how everything sucked. Nothing was right. You didn't do anything.

[Tyler]

You're waiting for it to get good.

[Brent]

Yeah. You're waiting for it to get good and just. And just spilling the beans on all the reasons you couldn't do your job. Oh, I'd connect with that book.

[Tyler]

Last question of the night. Also, how much do DEA agents have to worry about cartels coming after them? I'm assuming Mr. Murphy doesn't because his public. Because he does public appearances.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah, we took a good question. It is. We took out the Medellin cartels, which. So we don't worry too much about. And believe it or not, that was the. You would think that happens every time. That's the first time that we ever took out the entire organization. Not just chop the head off the snake. But I'm interviewing a guy tomorrow who was de agent down in South Texas, and he did time in Guadalajara and Monterey and was actively involved in taking down those Zetas. He's got a book out. It's called Reign of Terror. R E I G N Reign of Terror. When I started reading it, I couldn't put it down. Usually when I'm on a plane, I'm watching movies, and I started reading his book, and I read all the way to Washington earlier this week, and all the way back, got it read and, you know, a couple hours there, and the things that they were going through, the tragedies that these. These guys, the thugs down in Mexico are causing, it's just. It's horrible. So they. They. It's. It's very true.

[Brent]

I. I got a question for you. I know running a little bit over, but, man, I can't believe I haven't thought about this until now. And it's a. It's a question that you should answer us. You know, identifying or nominating the Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations now and this, you know, supposedly kind of shift or war, you know, on the Mexican cartels. What do you think? Is that. Is that just. Is that just, you know, Trump talking? Are we going to do anything about that? Does this label terrorist organization truly open anything up? What. In your experience or with. With your background, you know, what do you think should happen with that?

[Steve Murphy]

So if you think about it, the drug dealers are in the business to make money. That's what it's all about. And they're, they're feed their power and their ego and their greed. What, what giving them that terrorist organization designation does is allows the government to go after those that support them. So we do it with Al Qaeda, with isis, whatever it might be, you know, and you're, if you're providing material support, you can be arrested. So there's a lot of people that you know, behind the scenes are being their lackeys, but they're helping promote their illegal activities. So. And it's not just drugs. These are poly criminal organizations. It could be drugs today and it could be human trafficking tomorrow and it could be counterfeit clothes. I mean, whatever it might be. Stolen cars.

[Tyler]

Stolen or counterfeit. No, stolen timber.

[Brent]

Yeah, I talked about that. The gosh, what's the word I'm looking for? The timber. Timber. Anyway, the illegal timber cutting business is huge money and gangs have turned in. Yeah, have started doing that because they'll chase wherever the money is.

[Steve Murphy]

Anything to turn a buck. It's that simple.

[Tyler]

Two more super chats real quick, Brent. The Salty Marine book is called Jarhead Semper 5. I sent anti hero Twitter a personal message to the link to Dylan. Kate. He's a 13 year 75, fifth veteran who passed yesterday morning from a heart attack. Leaves behind a wife and two young children. That's awful, man. Parker's autis with God now. So Brenda needs some music. It's sad now. Oh, did Pantera win?

[Brent]

Pantera wins. Pantera 190 to fit to to to kiss his war machines loan 50 but.

[Tyler]

It was all 150. Says he fought that battle himself.

[Brent]

That's right. It was a valid effort. That's right. Here we go, boys. We ended the way we always do. You guys got it. You guys wanted it, you got it. Pantera. Cowboys from Hell. Let's hang out with the cop. Let's come out of the comment section for a couple minutes.

[Tyler]

Thought you said something else.

[Brent]

It's going down. I'm yelling timber. I wonder if they. If. Oh, who sings that? A Kesha. I wonder if they're listening to Kesha while they're doing that. Simon Futter When I think weed has miss as medicinal qualities. What? I hate it when they don't spell it right. It's difficult when I say I think weed has medicinal qualities and mean four only some people, like cancer patient or kids with major trauma and of course only a little don't have Too much. Thank you, Simon. I haven't seen Warfare yet, but I. I was thinking about going to go see it and then doing a live talking about it and seeing how realistic it is. Tom Wilson, good to see you back too, buddy. As you guys all know, I hate missing Thursday night lives. Nate Taylor. Pantera should always win, if you ask me. Saturday is the 250th anniversary of the start of the Revolutionary War. Wow, 250 years. That's crazy. Hey, Brit, if you were to do it Again, Marines are 75th. I hate to tell you, it's an easy answer for me all day long. 75th Ranger Regiment. And today they're special operations, and they'll get to do a little bit more. Just because of that.

[Steve Murphy]

I dropped two things. Bodies and panties.

[Brent]

Oh, love it. Thoughts on Restrepo and corn Gall? Let me tell you, the corn gall went there a few times. It is a nasty place to operate. And those boys at Restrepo were doing work that those. Those. Those grunts earned their pay every day in that place. That's all right. Simon says I was eating and typing the same time. Spelling mistakes. You don't want to see my text messages. You'd think I had a third grade education with the way I typed real fast and send it and then I have to go edit while what I sent, so. Because I don't want to sound like a. But I can't do that with Drew's phone because he has an Android, so I can't go edit my text. So I'm just.

[Tyler]

He's got a Android too.

[Brent]

So I'm just stuck looking like a Quay Pro Junior. Brent, do you know my friend Lieutenant Colonel Steve Russell? He was. He was the commander of 1st Battalion, 22nd infantry, and the ground force commander of the task force force that captures the Dom. No, that was a little bit before my time. I wasn't there for the. For the Saddam Capture wizard band. See you, brother. Steve, what's your podcast? One more time.

[Steve Murphy]

Game of Crimes with Murph in the morning.

[Brent]

There you go.

[Drew]

Mars.

[Tyler]

Obvious.

[Brent]

The beginning of warfare is wild. You'll love it. I actually think I will love that movie. Movie? Actually unpopular opinion. I. I didn't mind act of Valor. You know that. That SEAL movie. I mean, it's a movie. I mean, you take it for what it is. It's not a documentary. It's a movie. But they had a couple really cool scenes in. In that movie. All right.

[Steve Murphy]

Thanks, Marcus.

[Brent]

Check out Mark. I will. I will sub to Mer podcast. Yeah, baby. No love For Marine Recon, the Raiders are good, but at the end of the day, the Rangers just have a.

[Tyler]

Depends on.

[Brent]

They will support Tier 1 units. Marine Recon or the current Raiders just won't. And so at least you'll have that opportunity as a. As. As a Ranger. Nothing Beast. Full Metal Jacket. Oh, that's a good one, Brent. Is John Rambo the greatest Green Beret? And why, if he was real, he would be a great Green Beret. Last thing. We talked about this before, but I'll say it again. In the book Rambo, at the very end. Gosh, what's the Colonel's name? This is killing me.

[Steve Murphy]

Yeah.

[Brent]

Oh, yeah, Colonel. Oh, help me out.

[Steve Murphy]

Can't remember.

[Brent]

Anyway, the Colonel goes into the. The police station that Rambo's held up on, and instead of calming him down and walking him out, which would allow for Rambo too, he actually goes in there and kills Rambo and he has to go kill the thing he created. Created. And that's how the. That's how the book ended.

[Steve Murphy]

Wow.

[Brent]

But they wanted Troutman. Troutman.

[Steve Murphy]

There you go. There you go.

[Drew]

Thank you.

[Brent]

Thank you. That was the. Rory Benavidez might be in the running for Goat. Green Beret probably. Absolutely. We need to do a Roy Benavidez like his history episode. I would. Everyone needs to hear that man's story. All right, I'll ramble on for the rest of the night, but I can't. Thanks, guys.

[Steve Murphy]

Shout out to Patrick O'Donnell there. See you up there, brother.

[Brent]

There you go. See you next Thursday.