TEEN TAKEOVER or FATIGUE? (05/21/2026)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: TEEN TAKEOVER or FATIGUE?
Date: May 21, 2026
Host(s): Tyler, Mike, with guests Dominic Izzo & Ryan (Communist Marine)
Description: The Antihero Broadcast: News/entertainment for veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans

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Episode Overview

This episode tackles a mix of blue-collar news, controversial social issues, and candid commentary on policing, race, and American culture. Major topics include honoring a fallen firefighter, the impact of AI on blue-collar jobs, controversies in education and law enforcement, and a deep-diving debate on race, policing, “teen takeovers,” and systemic inequities in America. Regular contributors and guests freely discuss topics others deem taboo, blending gallows humor, bravado, and raw personal opinion throughout.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

1. Remembering a Fallen Firefighter

[03:10 – 07:55]

• Tyler reports on a tragic line-of-duty death: Andrew Cross, a volunteer firefighter in Maine, killed in a lumber mill explosion.
  • Community mourns Cross; firefighters honor him with a procession, American flag, and salute.
  • Tyler: “Firefighters…either fine or they perish in the line of duty.”
  • Mike adds context on firefighter dangers—81 died in the last year, nearly as many as police, but media coverage skews toward police fatalities.
  • Mike: “They do a ridiculously dangerous job...they deserve all the credit in the world.”

“When something heroic happens or something tragic happens...these type of things slip through the cracks where they don't get...what they deserve.” — Mike [07:33]

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2. AI and the Blue-Collar Workforce

[07:55 – 10:54]

• Tyler: Optimism about AI creating demand for trade workers and skilled technicians due to major tech infrastructural expansions.
  • AT&T plans $38 billion investment in hiring blue-collar workers for fiber expansion.
  • “You don't need the college degree anymore. And I feel bad for anybody who has a college degree who was forced into that.”
  • Brief banter about job prospects, “phonics vs. photonics,” and implications for anti-hero listeners.

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3. Controversy: Florida Teacher’s Racist Incident

[11:51 – 15:19]

• Mike: Reports a Florida art teacher, Karen Savage, hung a black baby doll in front of her class—went viral for its perceived racist imagery.
  • Classroom video taken by 14-year-old student; teacher claimed to be fixing a cable but instead wrapped and displayed the doll from the TV.
  • Karen was terminated after the incident.
  • Discussions revolve around racial insensitivity, public reactions, and comparisons to other racially charged teacher mishaps.
  • Mike: “The lesson here was probably lost in history…Karen, that was a terrible idea.” [13:15]

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4. Racial Narrative and Criticisms of “Teen Takeovers”

[15:33 – 28:24]

• Tyler introduces the central topic (“Teen Takeovers”)—media framing of youth unrest, challenges calling out race without being labeled “racist.”
  • Personal reflections on accusations of racism; debates over who’s allowed to discuss negative racial patterns.
  • Mike & Tyler: Commentary on public double standards when discussing crime in the black community vs. white serial offending.
  • Cites Jesse Peterson, controversial black commentator, for “saying the things we can't”—with extended quoted transcript on the Trayvon Martin case.

“By not saying it to me is more racist or more biased than just saying the truth. The kid was not what they played him up to be.” — Mike [25:04]

• Both hosts argue for “accountability” and criticize perceived lack of intra-community policing on issues like looting and violence.

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5. Blue-Collar Police Community Dynamics

[30:33 – 38:37]

• Mike vents frustrations about lack of support from other cops for community-focused initiatives and apps—after years of answering DMs and creating resources, many in his peer group balk at the idea of even minimal paid support.
  • Mike: “That to me is cops. That's your majority of cops. How dare you. These are the guys that won't pay for a big gulp at 7-Eleven.”
  • Conversation touches on burnout, the transactional nature of online communities, and generational divides in police culture.

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6. Support for a Fellow Cop’s Son

[39:16 – 40:58]

• Shoutout to a retired NYPD cop whose 12-year-old son is fighting Ewing sarcoma cancer.
  • GoFundMe shared; community support offered.

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7. Policing Policies: Pursuits & Department Culture

[44:11 – 50:00]

• Discussion on changes in Tampa PD’s pursuit policies—no pursuits allowed, even removing channels to request FHP (Florida Highway Patrol) assistance.
• Tyler & Mike lament “beta” administration decisions, advocate for pursuits to maintain accountability for actual offenders.

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8. Fitness Banter

[53:32 – 58:12]

• Lively exchange between Mike, Tyler, and Dominic Izzo about bench press records, carnivore diet, and overcoming injuries—using gym talk for camaraderie and competition.

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9. Main Deep Dive: "Teen Takeovers" and Race

[58:56 – 77:32]

The Debate:

• Tyler, Mike, Dominic Izzo:
  • Tackle the “teen takeover” coverage — large, often black youth crowds causing unrest, looting, violence, etc., and the media’s racial sanitizing.
  • Izzo critiques both left and right for perpetuating cycles of poverty and criminality for political/financial gain.
    • Extensive discussion on the systemization of black poverty, school failures, and “prison pipeline,” blaming both black leadership and political opportunism.
  • Dominic Izzo: “You need a guaranteed culture…to break the laws and offend. So they constantly are exploiting the system…It's a black culture issue.” [63:01]
  • Mike: “It’s not racism. It’s capitalism. Because…you’re worse than the white man…capitalizing on your own people.”
  • Discussion on “self-policing” in communities and reasons for ongoing unrest.

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10. Systemic Racism, Capitalism, and Class Warfare

[81:13 – 105:50]

• Ryan (Communist Marine): Joins late for challenging perspectives on policing, capitalism, and the prison industrial complex.
  • Discusses capitalism’s role in pitting poor/working-class whites and blacks against each other, perpetuating elite power structures.
  • Raises the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, the evolution of racist systems (“manufactured hatred”).
  • Praises moments of cross-racial unity (e.g., at casinos or in common struggle) as undermined by the powerful for their own gain.
  • Mike: “We're all just scum…my reality is nobody cares what happens to me…Rich people are now using AI to get richer and make things harder…”
  • Tyler: “It's a manufactured hatred…The puppet masters…distract us with little things here and there…”

On Police & Veterans:

• What jobs should veterans have post-service? Is policing always the best? How does militarization affect police culture?

On ShotSpotter “Racism” (Cambridge, MA):

[107:31 – 109:09]

• Cambridge ends use of gunshot detection technology because “it’s racist.”
  • Hosts mock the reasoning—calling it “absurd,” a sign of lost priorities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Cops are cheap. Don’t listen dom the comm let’s get ready roll.” — Tyler [00:01] (opening)
• “I just spit on myself…60,000 plus five star rating and reviews…” — Tyler, during sponsor reads [01:40]
• “If I take a still shot of 500 people and they’re all the same race, am I not allowed to say…” — Tyler [16:00] (addressing racism accusations)
• “They go to a fire, they're just, you know, they're doing their job and then something explodes with something we don't really have to worry about dealing with.” — Mike [06:26]
• “The lesson kids is don't hang a black baby from a court in a classroom or you'll be fired. But your name will be cool because it's Karen Savage.” — Mike [15:06]
• “We’d be extinct in a month.” — Dominic Izzo [75:30] (on scale of black-on-black violence compared to if other races did the same)
• “There’s no profit in peace. It’s always chaos.” — Dominic Izzo [72:55]
• “It's not racism. It's capitalism.” — Mike [67:29]
• “Is it the gun's fault? Is it the gun's fault?” — Tyler [109:52] on Cambridge rejecting ShotSpotter as “racist”

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Episode Tone & Style

• Unfiltered, brash, blue-collar, unapologetic, and darkly humorous.
• Willingly addresses controversial topics, often crossing into taboo or politically incorrect territory.
• Consistent use of self-deprecation and in-group joking, especially relating to police, gym culture, and generational divides.
• Frequent “call outs” of media establishment, corporate interests, and government.
• Guests like Dominic Izzo and Ryan inject additional depth and provoke more philosophical debate.

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For Listeners Who Missed It...

• The episode covers the full spectrum from honoring tragedy among first responders to the outrage and debate around “teen takeovers” and systemic inequity.
• Candid (sometimes uncomfortable) takes on policing, alleged “race realism,” and who profits from division in America.
• Irony and gallows humor persist, even in somber news, as hosts challenge listeners to think about who—and what—is truly responsible for American social breakdown.
• Extended digressions on strength training, gym rivalries, and health—demonstrating the show’s “locker room meets radio talk” core.

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Quick Reference:

| Segment | Timestamp | Highlights | |----------------------------------------|----------------|-----------------------------| | Fallen Firefighter Tribute | 03:10–07:55 | Ceremony, risk, media bias | | Blue Collar Boom via AI | 07:55–10:54 | AT&T, trades vs. college | | Florida Teacher Racist Incident | 11:51–15:19 | Karen Savage fired, debate | | Race & "Teen Takeovers" | 15:33–28:24 | Media, policing, accountability | | Blue Collar Cops & Online Criticism | 30:33–38:37 | Community support, burnout | | Law Enforcement Pursuits, Beta Cities | 44:11–50:00 | Tampa policies lambasted | | Fitness Banter | 53:32–58:12 | Lifts, carnivore diet | | "Teen Takeover" & Race War Dissection | 58:56–77:32 | Social unrest, structural issues | | Capitalism & Racism, Class War | 81:13–105:50 | Deep state, unity, division | | ShotSpotter Tech Deemed Racist | 107:31–109:09 | Local politics mocked |

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Final Note:
This episode is a raw and wide-ranging conversation that blends dark humor, direct experience, and strong views on policing, social justice, and American dysfunction. For listeners interested in no-holds-barred dialogue from the blue-collar front lines, it’s a representative—and provocative—Antihero Broadcast.

Transcript

[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

One of the the things that we were going to touch upon over the weekend or on Monday when it kind of came out was the fallen firefighter that died in Maine. So not as many in the line of duty deaths for firefighters as police officers. But it is inherently a very, very dangerous job and I think when things go awry from it looks like sometimes survivability is not as high. So cops get injured all the time. Cops get killed in line of duty. But it seems like firefighters are either fine or they perish in the line of duty. So we're gonna pull that up. We're not gonna be able to do it justice obviously. So pull the article from firefighter. It's a fire oh fire rescue. I accept all cookies. So he'd do anything for anybody was a quote by one of his friends. The main Community mourn Firefighter killed in Lumber Mill explosion. Just go ahead and play this news clip.

[Dominic Izzo]

New video shared by the Liberty Fire

[Tyler]

and Rescue Department illustrates the community bond that firefighters share and the deep respect they have for their brothers and sisters in service. This video here shows the procession Friday that firefighters organized as the body of Andrew Cross. A volunteer firefighter in the town of Morrill was taken from the scene of the fire and into a waiting hearse. He was transported on a gurney draped with the American flag. Apart from the command to salute the firefighters, dozens of them stand in silence amid the hum of the fire trucks as an honor guard honor guard guides Cross his body away from the last fire he'll ever fight. Thank you for joining us at 11.

[Mike]

I'm Bailey Cornick.

[Tyler]

We'll have more on the ceremonies. So 27 year old firefighter killed in a huge fire and explosion at a lumber mill in Maine's mid coast region was honored on Saturday. This is more of the profession the the procession. Roughly two dozen fire departments had responded to the massive flames that tore through a silo at Robin's Lumber in the rural area. According to state Fire Marshal's office. Officials on Saturday identified Cross as the firefighter who was killed. So I'm assuming he was on scene firefighting and you know, this explosion which was probably unforeseen, took his life. So we just wanted to shed some light on that. It's a couple days old. The weekend was extremely hectic and that's on us for not covering that as soon as it broke.

[Mike]

But they're actually, unfortunately, to go with what you said before, I've been researching while you've been talking, 81 firemen died last year. So it's not that far off of cops. We're up there around 180, 81. That's all deaths. That's. They count crashes, training, accidents, heart attacks, anything to do with on duty death. So I believe cops were around 100. Usually it's right around there and firemen aren't very far behind. I just don't. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like it makes the news as much. And they deserve all the credit in the world. They do a ridiculously dangerous job, as you can see you're doing. You know, we're looking for danger, you know, we're waiting for it. They go to a fire, they're just, you know, they're doing their job and then something explodes with something we don't really have to worry about dealing with. So very unfortunate. And you know, our thoughts and prayers go out to all firemen. Anybody that had a, that knows him or his family or his fellow firefighters up there, we're here for you, man, if you need anything. Yeah, dude, you just did what I did and then start. You started off the show with a sad time.

[Tyler]

Well, I was covering the news. It wasn't really supposed to be a memorial. It was supposed to, you know, we didn't cover this and we never have anything firefighter related. And I think the reason why cop makes the news is because it's a shooting, right? It's a shooting. So there's already something tied to it that makes it juicy or, you know, was he in the right or, you know, did he do anything illegal? And so many people hate the cops that, that.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, you're right. It just kind of unfortunately, you know, I guess coming with the territory that everybody really likes, firemen, there's less like good or bad attention, seems to be less on them and unfortunately that these type of things slip through the cracks where they don't get the, what they deserve when they, when something heroic happens or something tragic happens.

[Tyler]

Next up though, is good news for the blue collar boys. AI is rewriting the American dream and blue collar workers are poised to win. So check this out. So all those data processing centers that are, that are coming up in all these fields that a lot of the farmers are protesting, I mean, that's kind of the shitty part, but AI, all this new technology booming that's going on, they need processing centers for it. And blue collar dudes are gonna Reap the benefits of that. The rapid spread of AI across corporate America is creating a crisis for young adults with college degrees who are finding a slowdown in hiring for entry level positions in AI exposed industries. Major U. S companies including Ford. I don't even know what the. That one is. Nvidia and AT T. Nvidia, they make.

[Mike]

They make computer processors.

[Tyler]

Okay.

[Mike]

Computers.

[Tyler]

Has stressed the growing need for trade workers to build the infrastructure behind the AI economy. AT T plans to invest around $38 billion over the next five years hiring and training blue collar frontline workers, the majority of whom are skilled technicians, to expand its fiber network, the company said. From the Dayton, Ohio suburbs to boardrooms in Dallas. The employees fueling AT&T's next wave of growth aren't fresh face college graduates with expensive four degrees. They're skilled blue collar workers ready to get their hands dirty. And AT&T can't find enough of them. We need people who are actually, who know how to actually work with electricity. We need people who understand and can read. We need people.

[Mike]

We need one here too at anti hero.

[Tyler]

What's photonics mean?

[Mike]

I have no idea. We know you need phonics but photographers? I'm not sure.

[Tyler]

We need people who can get into folks homes and connect this infrastructure to make it work right. AT&T CEO John thank you. Told CNBC during a recent interview from companies Dallas headquarters. So that is great news for our blue collar workers. That is great news for our kids. You don't need the college degree anymore. And I feel bad for anybody who has a college degree who was forced into that, who was told that that's what they need because clearly that is not the case.

[Mike]

Yeah. Oh boy. Super chat From Tactical Redaction 1999 team. Have a good show. Heading into work bro. We appreciate it so much. You're in the drawing. The drawing. That was never going to happen. That did happen. Matter of fact our patreon winner finally claimed his patreon gift today.

[Tyler]

Which one? The first one or the third one?

[Mike]

Third one. Reached out. It was, it was a. You know, every now and then let's talk about ourselves for a minute. We never really do that. Reached out and he said hey guys, love the show. Sorry for not checking sooner. Gave me his address. He said thank you. Thank each of you for the great content and transparency. Most importantly being great dudes. Much love from the loyal supporter and trooper from this great state of Arkansas. So he got a care package on the way courtesy of Nick the gun guy who I was talking to when we went live because my other guys. A piece of.

[Tyler]

Oh, the guy you originally had.

[Mike]

Yeah, I got two tumblers. Been out since April. Like, 20th was the order. And this ain't. Send him and didn't answer. And now he's Brandon recommended. He's gone. Jay's been working with Nick the gun guy. I'm going to integrate him right into the new website. We won't have any problems. So these people.

[Tyler]

All right, what's this thing about a Florida teacher hanging a black doll?

[Mike]

Oh, boy. $10. Six Jedis just wanted to jump on. Say what's up? Thank you so much for your support. Dude, he's going to work. All right, so it is what it's. It is what it says it is. So let me share the screen. You know how much I like doing this. Share screen gong. Florida teacher faces backlash after hanging a black doll. And probably never a good idea, right? Ever. So here is post. Here we go. Ready? He decided to teach the class a lesson. And she dangled a black baby from it.

[Dominic Izzo]

Oh, my God.

[Mike]

Yeah, they put her on blast.

[Tyler]

What art is that?

[Mike]

Yeah, I don't know. Karen is her name. So needless to say, Karen is not doing well right now. Let's go back one more time. Oh, I. I just, you know, it kind of goes with the one lady, if you remember, that sang the Three Little Monkeys jumping on the bed or whatever to the black kid or, oh, no, his birthday, she said, yeah, you

[Tyler]

could find innocence in that. I don't.

[Mike]

Maybe if you really looked hard, you could probably find the innocence. But what do you find?

[Tyler]

What are you lynching a black baby doll in front of a bunch of kids?

[Mike]

Yeah, that's probably. I. I think if it was a white doll, I don't think anybody would. Matt. It would matter, but the context and everything is. Yeah, the lesson here was probably lost in history and the things that have happened in the past and probably not the best idea. Karen. Karen, what are you doing? Karen, that was a terrible idea. Even Moon Crickets probably thinks that's a bad idea. Oh, my God.

[Tyler]

Dude. What?

[Mike]

Yeah, I just don't. You gotta think, right? You gotta think. You're not a podcaster. You're not, like, on the Internet. You're not a comedian. You gotta think, like, if this goes what I always tell these young guys and young people that talk about, if this goes on the Internet, are you okay with, like, having your name attached to it? Karen's probably not excited about what it led to, and she's white, and it's racist. No matter what she says at this point. So Karen.

[Tyler]

Oh yeah, you're not. There's no getting around that one.

[Mike]

That's Karen Hillsborough. Very liberal community, liberal area.

[Tyler]

So Karen still a teacher?

[Mike]

I, I believe she is. I think she's got obvious problems coming her way. Let me. The article says that the Outlook reports the video was taken by a 14 year old student at Barrington Middle School. The footage shows teacher 63 year old Karen seemingly trying to do a cable connected to the classroom tv. His art teacher took the time to wrap a charger cord around a black baby doll's neck and hang it directly over the classroom's television for the entire room to see Williams clean. Miss Savage has been terminated. Miss Savage has been terminated.

[Tyler]

Effectively her name. Miss Savage.

[Dominic Izzo]

Karen Savage.

[Mike]

Karen Savage.

[Tyler]

Dude.

[Mike]

Karen Savage. Dude. He has been terminated. She is no longer with us and no longer a teacher. Karen, you definitely are Savage. And whatever your lesson was, the lesson kids is don't hang a black baby from a court in a classroom or you'll be fired. But your name will be cool because it's Karen Savage.

[Tyler]

Karen Savage.

[Mike]

Karen Savage the Pride assassin with $10 stay great and free. Derek Chauvin. Thank you Pride. We appreciate your support as always.

[Tyler]

You know what it's been, it's come to my attention so the main topic of the thumbnail on YouTube is Teen Takeovers. And usually when there's nothing major to cover on a day, on a morning when we're sipping our coffee thinking about what's the anti hair broadcast going to be. That's for the topic of the day I usually believe is God telling me you didn't hit it hard enough the day before. So I, I stayed up all night last night thinking about what the is going on to where we can't call a spade a spade and just be like this is a problem. And I has been brought to my attention that by doing so people have claimed to think I'm racist.

[Mike]

Your name is Karen Savage right now.

[Tyler]

Yeah. When I do, you take.

[Mike]

Take the baby down from the

[Tyler]

I. We're gonna talk more on that with Dominic because Dominic is very uncensored when it comes to calling a spade a spade. But at the end of the day like me and you talked about, you know, weird violent sex crimes are always white people. School shooters are white people. You know, white people take the land from the Indians like white people have. We call it legacies. I can't really vouch for the white people. During Columbus sailing the Ocean Blue in 1492 or whatever that was. Like, yeah, that sucked. We did that. White people did that. That's awful. Can't take it back. But to not be able to say like if I, if I take a still shot of 500 people and they're all the same race, am I not allowed to say

[Mike]

they call this doubling down. This is called doubling down.

[Tyler]

Anything after that, after that whatsoever.

[Mike]

Double down. Go ahead. Double. It's called doubling down.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Cody with.

[Tyler]

Hold on one second.

[Mike]

279Canada. I got it. Where is CC at? I don't know. Maybe he. Tyler ran him off due to the racism that Tyler spews. And I think I'm caught up on super chats. Right. Yeah. I got. I don't like the Diamond Bell but I keep. Keep it real. Like somebody dm, Dustin was like, hey, it seems like Tyler gets a little too. Seems like Tyler gets a little too excited talking about the blacks.

[Tyler]

So

[Mike]

I mean we try to call it like it is like I'm not going to filter my feelings towards women being cops and whether I just can't filter my opinion anywhere. Maybe it's that music you hum sometimes. I don't know. Maybe it take a little too far. I don't know. But yeah, I think we're pretty fair. And. And my answer was we would love to have a full time black contributor no matter what side. You can be super liberal, you can be super conservative, you can be down the middle.

[Tyler]

It.

[Mike]

We're always looking to expand our contributors and our people that come talk on the show. So please, you got to navigate this so carefully because, you know,

[Tyler]

$2 and a lot of the contributors on this show have careers, they have families. So they'll come and go. As you can see, some people don't pop on for a while. We'll let you know if they're not here anymore, period. Yes, D.C. was a lot easier to do. Talk about Jewish people owning all six companies of network radio across the country or you know, black people. Yeah, Black people being the only thing, the only people during a spring break takeover terrorizing a city. Like, I mean it is what it is and, and it's does I think it does for black people make it easier to handle the blunt of it or the brunt of it. When it's a black person saying it, they're like oh okay. It just sounds.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Mike]

What's his name? Jesse Peterson. The black dude that has that real unique voice and hates black people. I saw him on here. Let me bring it up, let me bring it up. It's on Instagram. It's easy to find because he can say things. And, and sometimes maybe somebody. They say they watch us all the time, maybe they don't. And maybe they catch. Because I did mention. Did you, you know, I said, did you catch the episode where we had the, the black dude on? He said, yeah. And then I said, you know, also when we went to South Carolina, you mentioned we brought black dude up there and kind of, you know, gave him. So I told him, I said, Tyler would never own slaves for sure. He's never, he's not like that. But I said, you know, I, I don't. I, I agree. I don't think you say. I mean, we, we say we're pretty hard on just about everybody. Like, you say it, how it comes out, how we see it.

[Tyler]

So, I mean, there's. It's just. Look at it like this. I was talking to Jake about this offline. You remember in 1997, 1998, when the media and entertainment hit that counterculture? Right when south park came out, right when Eminem came out, right when WWF was going crazy with the. On TV, Vince McMahon was dropping the N word. Yeah. It was a counterculture movement because everyone was so sick of the status quo that everyone jumped on this movement. And it's getting to that way about 30. We're about 30 years later, and it's getting that way. And I can tell you that when our numbers jump up and stay very consistent, when we talk about things that every single person thinks, but they're not allowed to say it. And so we are.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I don't think you said anything racist, like, and not even close.

[Tyler]

Like, I literally have black friends. I know that's.

[Mike]

That's the most racist thing you've said so far. So you just, you just.

[Tyler]

No, it's not. It's not. It's been told to you by the counter narrative, by the CIA that you're racist. If you say, I have racist friends, that's like saying, I'm rich. I have money. No.

[Dominic Izzo]

Oh, that's what a rich person would say.

[Tyler]

That's what a rich person would say. Oh, okay. How do I. I have black friends. How the could I be racist? It's not possible. But they're. They're trying to spit it to where you can't say that. So what do you say? I guess I can't say that. So how do I prove I'm not racist? You can't, whitey.

[Mike]

Yeah, I guess you're right. All right, let me, Let me play this clip. Because he can say all this stuff that we can't. I love this guy. Oh, hold on. Help. If I put it on. Let me, let me me do it back because it'd be important to begin support. But the question really think George Zimmerman would have looked at a young white man in a hoodie and thought the same thing, that this guy is potential trouble?

[Tyler]

Well, George Zimmerman would have done whatever it took to protect himself. It didn't matter to George Zimmerman the color of the man. And this notion that Trayvon Martin was some little innocent kid tip thorn to the tulips and George Zimmerman had nothing else to do but to go out and kill him. It's a lie. It's an absolute lie. And I think that for the people to mislead that are in control of this issue, to mislead America in that manner are very dishonest people. Trayvon Martin was a thug. His parents know that. You know that. I know that.

[Mike]

Don't you speak for me.

[Tyler]

Sat in on the don't you speak for me and heard that. Know that as well.

[Mike]

Don't put words into my mouth. There's very little evidence that Trayvon Martin was a thug. The only evidence we have of him ever being violent was in the altercation

[Dominic Izzo]

with George Zimmerman, a much older man

[Mike]

who had got out of his car to follow him, ignored directions to follow him and then got into an altercation. And if you listen to the parents, they'll tell you that Trayvon Martin was clearly he felt in fear of his own safety. Where are his right defense?

[Tyler]

Trayvon Martin was an example of what happens when these black boys and girls are raised in single parents household. And if Trayvon Martin was such a good little kid tip throwing through the tulips, why did they work so hard to keep his history out of the courtroom during. During the trial?

[Mike]

If so, you know, I thought that was very interesting. That's something that really only he can, you know, only I think we try to get into that topic, we're going to be called racist. And I think that.

[Ryan]

I think it's.

[Tyler]

It's inevitable. Dude.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think he's accurate. I think it's a lot. I think the Trayvon Martin narrative was completely a lie. He's right. He's a comes from a broken home. He comes. They hid his entire Jew. He's got pictures. I didn't want to keep playing it. It's over. There's pictures of him on social media with guns, with weed. All indicative of crime and criminal activity. Do I believe for one second George Zimmerman said, hey, There's a black kid in my neighborhood, I'm going to kill him. Absolutely not. Did he see a kid that looked like based on location, demographics, time that might be breaking the law? He did. I think he would have done it to any kid walking through that neighborhood in a fucking hoodie that he didn't recognize. But you can't say that we can, but back then you really couldn't, but now you can. And that's where I think that, that by not saying it to me is more racist or more biased than just saying the truth. Like the truth. The kid was not what they played him up to be. Obama's out there saying, oh, this could have been my son, this guy. Okay, Your son would have been carrying guns and taking pictures with weed and breaking in the cars and all that stuff. And it's like, you know, and Piers Morgan is such a beta. It's like, it's like, it's funny when you see a white guy telling a black guy that he can't say it always, it always humored me when, you know, white Karen or white guy tries to tell black guy something. So that dude's great. I love, I love Peterson. He's awesome. And you know, if we break that down, which I don't care anymore, I'll say where the I want, but that's where people will take shots at us that we're being insensitive or racist because no, I'll break down the same scumbag. What do we see? I said it yesterday over and over. White dudes getting caught in these stings, going to meet 14 year old boys at Home Depot and going to meet 14 boys at 14 year old boys all it's white dudes. They're disgusting, nasty predators of young children. By nature, white men, terrible when it comes to young boys and girls is that.

[Tyler]

And what do we have? What do we have, Mike? We have squads of white dudes going and finding these dudes at the home, beating the out of them. White dudes are handling their own. We don't like the stereotype, we don't like the stigma. White culture or any culture ever in the history of society and civilization handles their own. So they don't look like, yeah, blacks don't do that. They embrace this culture and then they turn a blind eye to it and call you racist.

[Mike]

I think blacks do do it, but it's on a, it's a less number and I think that it's done less. But I, I get what you're. I agree with you. It's Much less. There are obviously there's black men trying to stop.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

On the street trying to go, hey, get involved in sports, get involved with the, the police athletically. Get involved. The YMC may go do this, go do that. There are. It's just, I think on that side you can't go the. Statistically we know that there's less black families that are together. You know, by nature there's more divorce, there's more single mothers. So there's less of it. There are very good black men trying to make that happen. But it's just, they're so. The numbers are so far apart that you can't see it. But yeah, you see these guys like Vitali and all these other groups of people that have like co. Like militias in cities where they just target white scumbag men. Teacher, you see teachers. There's a cop in Miami, a lieutenant.

[Tyler]

Like where, where are the Black Panthers when black looters are destroying cities ready to fist fight these people to save black businesses. Black owned business. That was one of the things I started. It was an old clip. They tried playing it during one of the recent riots, but it was during I think the Rodney king or the 1990s, the riots in LA, one of the big ones. And it was a black guy crying and he's screaming to people. He's like, you just destroyed everything I ever lived for. I have nothing now. You burnt down my business. I've had, I've had for 10 years. I put my whole life into this and you guys took it from me. And they're laughing at them. And like that, I think is when America realized black culture has a serious problem with accountability.

[Mike]

I would agree with that. I would agree even in Minnesota when they burned in, in Ferguson, when it burned, when all these places where they rioted and looted, they didn't go 500 miles to some, you know, white neighborhood in Arkansas, burn stuff down. They burned their own neighborhood down. Not that that makes it any better to go travel and all that. But yeah, it. And even some of these politicians advocate for it. I think AOC and some of them had said go steal. But what does robbing an Apple store or Louis Vuitton or what does that do for black rights? What does that do for any rights? Let's get. And somebody just commented this and I'm going to piggyback off it in the super chat right here. Pliglet says we can't criticize America. Anything that's Democrat voter based. They have to protect it by shaming everything else. It's America. You know what, what your color is? I don't care what color you are anymore. You're an American. You have to be a different color. We're conditioned to mention color because it's some side that likes to use color a lot more than the rest. So let's just say Americans. Hey, Americans, stop going to the beach and doing takeovers. Stop going to Louis Vuitton and looting the store. Stop going to the Apple store and stealing everything out of it. Stop beating old people up walking down the street for no reason. Stop shooting each other in Chicago. America, not no color America. Stop going and meeting 14 year old boys or we're gonna beat the brakes off you like, fine, take it all out of it. America, stop it. It's that simple. Like we are, we're Americans. Y' all live here, Everybody gets paid. Everybody has a some type of identification or history of being an American. I'd be glad to take Colorado. Everything. Let's take it all away. You take it off the applications, take it off the college entrance, all that stuff. Take it off the secret selective services applications in New York and all those places just go. I'm a male. I don't know if you're allowed to say anymore, but I'm. I'm a person. I'm a person that stands when I pee and I'm a person that always sits when I pee. And that's it. We're not white, we're not black, we're not Asian, we're not anything. We're American. See how that works out? I'd be an advocate for that.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Let's move on to another topic. I want to hear a rant by Mike Dilks, AKA Cottville about cops not supporting each other.

[Mike]

Let's piss me off.

[Tyler]

You saw me all fired up. Let's get you all fired up.

[Mike]

This pissed me off today. So when I started Copville, obviously two, three, three years ago, and the first account went wild. 135,000 followers. I lost it. I made a promise to myself. I was always going to engage with every DM and you told me I was crazy. And then I started over and I did it again. Now I manage Cobbille. I managed with you. Anti Hero 2, podcast plus or broadcast plus the Hot Topic, everything else. 85,000 followers. Yeah. It is ridiculous. Some more I've shown you. I vote my phone and I, you know, I've got like. I probably deal with 2, 000 messages a week during that time. About six, eight months ago, nine months ago, a year ago, I said, you know what? Before I knew what Patreon was, before I knew what subscriptions were, I said, let me start a signal group for like dudes, like minded dudes. Hey, I put it out. Join this signal group. We can share case law. Where do we go? Work, job applications, all that stuff. So it's been going on, that thing goes off 24 hours a day because some guys work nights, some guys work days. I've gotten sub messages out of there. Hey, can you help me 1000%? I can help you. So when we built the anti hero app and I did, no idea, didn't even ask. And I didn't know that Jay and Chode were going to start building a Copville app. So yesterday, for the first time in my entire adult life, other than here on Patreon, and I'm asking, I said, hey, guys, 92 members of this cop bill chat that I've been answering and monitoring and interacting with for the last

[Tyler]

year, in the signal group.

[Mike]

Yeah, there's 92 people. I simply said, hey, man, I'm building an app. It's going to be badass. I said, it's going to have all these features. And I started rattling off everything. I sent some screenshots and I said, I'm probably going to charge a small fee. My mind, in my mind, my head, I was probably around five bucks, right? This is what it's going to get you. Daily case law, the ability to interact with giveaways. I'm still gonna give away free network. All the same things you do. Yeah. So the first comment was, why am I gonna pay money for a group chat? And I said, I tried to navigate nicely. And I was like, hey, you know, this is more than a group chat. If you read. Then they said, I'm other slick. And they misread it. So they deleted it. I was like, okay. So then this morning it sat there and this says, this is pissed me off. This says, you know, to be fair, because he called me a Jew as well, I got called a Jew. And then I explained, like, oh, yeah, yeah. I said, hey. I said, you know, I answer like 1500 dms, 2000 dms a week. I answer everyone. Sometimes they just get a tap. But I open it, I go to my message folder. If they have something interactive, somebody needs to talk. I try to make time to talk. I do a lot of things. I said, also, we raise money. All the things we do. I'm not going to rattle off what we do. We do it. We do it because we care. I Said, that's why I do it. So then they said, to be fair, this is what the message I got was, to be fair, we on TikTok cops and all these dudes making all these videos who then put together a guide to the academy and a guide on how to be a cop. How is this any different? And before I lost my mind and went nuclear, do you know what I did?

[Tyler]

What?

[Mike]

I went into signal group and I said leave group. And then I made the dude who made that smart ass comment the new admin of the group and I quit.

[Tyler]

Nice.

[Mike]

Keep it. I don't want no 4.99 from that guy. There's some really good people in there. So I'm not on all of them. But the audacity of some jack wagon who I went back and looked in private messages outside that signal group. I have interacted with, I have taken time to talk to, I have been very cordial with. Insulted me to the point of, like I'm saying, like you told me, you told me at some point you have to charge people for your time. Like if it's a dollar, you just

[Tyler]

don't have enough of it. It's impossible. Yes.

[Mike]

If it's. So when my wife is going at 1am that signal group and I have to mute it and then I catch up in the morning of 3, 000 messages and go, okay, these are what these guys are talking about. Like at some point, you're right, time is money. And what we do and what we give back and how we help people to me is priceless. And I'm not patting myself on the back, but I know I've heard it from guys like Aldradi and Bruno and all these other o' Malleys and all these guys and their families and everybody we've helped, I know we help. I'm not, I'm not here to say I'm a good cop, great cop. I'm not here to pat myself in the back. I know we've helped people and I know we'll continue to help people, but the audacity of somebody to take a shot at me when I was suggesting. I didn't even say the price yet. I was suggesting like, hey man, I'm gonna create this app and on top of it, two dudes are taking weeks of their time to build this thing which. And I made the joke in there, hey, if I had a weekly only fans model update and pictures, I bet all you would pay. And that got a bunch of people to respond, hell yeah. Titties like oh, yeah, I figured. But you know, to say, hey, I'm going to provide case law. I'm going to give you guys discount codes to all the products. We're going to be a live show. It really pissed me off. And I don't get really upset about many things when I'm called things, it doesn't bother me. But that to me is cops. That's your majority of cops. How dare you. These are the guys that won't pay for a big gulp at 7:11. They just walk out with it. They don't even ask the lady at the counter to go, hey, you don't want me to pay for this. They just walk out. So for everything we've done and all the time, and flying to Boston and going to North South Carolina and going all these places and all we do, I, for the first time said you, man, you for thinking that I, I don't value you guys and I don't put you guys before my own life 99 of the time. And I have somebody build an app that's going to make you guys better cops. Be able to network, be able to get case law, be able to get a free, you know, a Tumblr that's worth 40 bucks. Hey, I'm gonna give it away. I'm gonna eat the cost with Nick the gun guy. We're gonna make that happen. And you have the audacity to come at me like I'm some piece of. That to me, sums it up, dude. That's how most these guys are. And it I rate, dude, so I just quit. I'm not gonna sit here and defend myself and tell you what I do and how I do it. I just go, you know what? You're the new admin dude. You're the captain now. You run this group. So I quit. Quit my own app.

[Tyler]

Do you not use Strong on your Tumblr?

[Mike]

No, I like to sip it. I'm not. You've ever noticed I'm not a straw person anywhere.

[Tyler]

Straws are amazing.

[Mike]

Got a quick suck. That's why it's not gay. You like to suck that admin dick.

[Tyler]

Here's to Mike. That dude, I know we all appreciate you and Tyler taking your time and getting back to us. You're the best.

[Mike]

Yeah, it is what it is, man. Like I said, I, I, I. The only reason I talk about it because I want you guys to understand some of the, you know, we get and the jokes and the Tyler's gay and Mike's gay and Mike, that, that's all cool. But to think that I want you to go to, like, your favorite celebrities, all your big name guys. Go DM some other guys, be nice. Go DM some other people that have podcasts and networks and see if they respond to you, see if they answer you, see if they're willing to give you their phone number and talk to you every. Because I have the signal group. And outside of that chat, let's see, out of the 92 people, I can count, like 18 to 20 conversations that I have outside, where their conversations, like, big, big messages where they're asking me huge questions about where should I work, what should I do? And I take the time to answer these people and respond to these people. But I said, like 4.99 for a app that's better than anything you're gonna find in the app store that's going to help you, give you free, let you network, let you watch shows, let you give discounts on gear. I'm a for asking, and I didn't even ask yet. But you know what? Keep it.

[Tyler]

Good for you, man. Proud of you. One thing I do want to bring up. We'll bring some positivity back.

[Mike]

One second. Let me say Pride. Pride says preps props to Mike. He answers every dumb thing. I send him Megaphone to mega. Props to Jay and Zilla. Yeah, we appreciate it. Pride. He's. That's an example. Like, you send me a meme or a thing, I'm gonna at least tap it. I'm gonna at least laugh at it. Like, watch it give you. You know, I watch it.

[Tyler]

I watch most real. Sometimes I don't know if people are sending me real to just make me laugh or if they want them on the show. Well, a lot of people.

[Mike]

I'll ask. Sometimes

[Tyler]

real quick, we have a shout out for one of our own. His son has cancer. So I'm gonna read the messages. He said, hey, man, this is one for my son who is fighting Ewing sarcoma cancer. It's just like the one that took the life of the last trial that we posted. He's 12. I'm retired from the NYPD in 2022. You guys are the best. Thank you for what you guys do. His last chemotherapy is today, and it says five year, and then it's five years of testing every three to four months. But we are hoping for the best. He's been so strong this whole time. So this is the. This is the gofundme we have already donated. It's a cops kid. Man, I couldn't imagine retiring after 20 years of this job just to. To have to go through your child having cancer, it sucks. I mean, I. I could imagine it sucks. I thank God I have not had to go through that. But. And then he. So this is the gofundme. I shared it to our stories. If you go to our Instagram stories, you want to donate a couple bucks? I put the link in our Instagram stories. This is. This is a picture of his son playing baseball. Trying to get out there. He said this is him. And he said this is him playing baseball a few weeks back after about eight months off chemo. He's got such a great spirit.

[Mike]

Awesome dude.

[Tyler]

So keep him in your thoughts and prayers. If you can give a little something. I think we're flying through these topics.

[Mike]

We got clamp with his wisdom. Who says Mike is gay? That wouldn't be widely. That would be widely inappropriate. Yeah, you're right. There's only one gay guy in this network.

[Tyler]

Yeah, Nick, hit me up after the show. I will definitely get you their info. I talked to him through Instagram. Thanks, Clint, for the super chat.

[Mike]

Did you realize how many people watched on X yesterday?

[Tyler]

I. Dude, so weird, man.

[Mike]

It was like 150.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Today it's not even close.

[Tyler]

Yeah, super weird yesterday. I don't understand this stuff. You can't. You can't. This, this stuff is so floored and so controlled that you have to like pay to get out there. It's just. It is what it is. You have to do old school marketing and develop your community organically and guerrilla style. That's the only way. That's the only fail safe plan to work because they can shut this down. And it's funny because X used to be like that. And then for like two months it went to like 20 people viewing at most. And then yesterday it exploded to 150 and I'm like, what the. Yeah, so. Oh, Jefferson, Newbie. See here, boys. Getting a workout in the garage watching the show. It's hot as hell in here in North Carolina. Keep it up. I just did my workout in my garage this morning.

[Mike]

So everybody saw the real numbers.

[Tyler]

I did about six reps for his workout and then he called it quits.

[Mike]

No, see, that's very wrong. You guys think because it's so heavy, there's six reps. But what we did was we worked out. We warmed up at 135. We did like 10. We worked up to 225 for like 5. Then we went 275 for 3. We went 3003-053153-25330 and 335. And then we went and put the 100 pound dumbbells on incline. Multiple sets of those. So usually we. Me and these pipes buddy. I was working out my buddy too. Yeah, I actually wanted to do 335 after 3:25. And my math, gym math failed me and I did 3:30 and I got outside, I took the picture. My buddy goes, hey man, you put two and a half on the outside, not fives. And I'm like. So I did it again. I got 335. So we're there.

[Tyler]

You're the only guy in the world that does 335 but doesn't look like it. Anyways, moving on. So I'm just kidding. That was me. That was like calling a chick fat dude. You don't do that. That's crossing the line.

[Mike]

That's all right. Who was ito5o messaged me and said, great lift. I am going to bench Tyler's weight more times than he can bench his weight because he heard your Planet Fitness dig and he said all right. He wants to talk a little, does he? He said so I'm gonna bet. And I said, well, I don't know if you can benched 260 that many times, but if you're gonna bench Tyler's weight, I said you're gonna have to

[Tyler]

work your way up.

[Mike]

So look at that. Because I only 205. I'm pushing 335 at 205.

[Tyler]

So we've got, we've got three more mini stories to cover in the next seven minutes. First one being.

[Mike]

Okay, that's good. Don't go to the story about the property, the guy trespassing, because that's okay. So. All right. Police pursuit. So Tampa Bay police, if you guys remember, a while back, there was a pretty tragic incident with Tampa where they were chasing. FHP was chasing a guy and he went into Ybor City and he crashed and killed some people. It was very obviously killed four people, 13 injured. But let me tell you what Tampa PD is doing. And this is probably going to happen to all your major agencies and. And it's behavior Tampa Patey does the old school. We don't chase for anything pretty much

[Tyler]

because no forcible felonies.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're forcible felonies, but I mean very rare.

[Tyler]

No watch commander is going to have the balls to approve.

[Mike]

And the 18 or so years before our agency went to full blown. We chase for Everything. I think there was like two pursuits I was ever involved in. You just. Those incidents really don't happen. If they do, it's a bank robbery or mer. They're long gone before you even get close. The odds of finding those people. So basically they might as well say they don't chase for anything. But Tampa took it to a new level. Tampa said, well, we can't pursue. So we just used to get FHP to pursue for us. So they'd be like, hey, we're, we're chasing this car. Fhp, you know, it's, it's fleeing, it's going this direction and all that. Tampa said, you know what? Not only do we have the worst deputy chief in history of 30. 30, 30 by 30 female Ruth Kate, who wore her magazines upside down, who we finally fired for being a crook, we're gonna one up you. They took the radios away that used to be able to communicate with FHP so that their guys can't even tell FHP there's a car fleeing anymore. That's the level of beta cuck the Tampa Blade police department is doing. So they used to have multi mutual aid radios where watch commander guy would say, trip breaker one nine, the trooper Jones down there on I75. We got, we got one of these boys.

[Tyler]

Yeah, that's what we always did.

[Mike]

And they would get FHP and let them know it's coming your way because, you know, for all the I talk about the Inir county sheriff's office, I will say their pursuit policy is very open and very good. So we are now that agency when I was there and still where they go, if we can get them to Indian river, they'll. They'll chase them. They're going to take them out. So FHP was that catch all over there on the west coast where Tampa is. And now Tampa went so beta. You can't even tell FHP because they don't want the liability that. Well, it started in Tampa. One of our guys told fhp, then they killed somebody in Tallahassee, you know, six hours away. But we don't want to even face the liability of having that happen. So that is a blue city. That is blue beta behavior that is just let criminals run wild. That to me is, you know, and you know, we've talked about it. If somebody killed my family in pursuit, I don't care if it was before Rob o' Neill killed Osama bin Laden, if it was Osama bin Laden himself that, that masterminded 9 11, I wouldn't be okay with my Family dying in a pursuit, no matter who was being chased. So I get that behavior that we don't want to kill people and people shouldn't die in pursuits. But we also have to keep criminals from terrorizing our streets. Dude, when some felon or somebody that commits a burglary or a robber, they have. You have to. You have to have accountability and you have to be able to chase them and put them in jail. So I will always be an advocate for pursuits. And Tampa Bay, Beta Bay is. They can't even call it. Hp Tampa Bay, Tampa Beta. Beta.

[Tyler]

Yeah. We used to. When I was on street crimes, I had the trooper's number. Would meet at the. We would meet. I would. We would. In order to know if he's working, we would meet at the gas station right on Orange Blossom Trail. If he was there, if he was backed up, that's how I knew he was working. I'd swing in, I'd be, what's up, man? I'm here till three in the morning. And then if people fled, you call him. Or if you think they're gonna flee. And he just was sat there and he took them all.

[Mike]

So, yep, yep, we had a signal group. I was in it. It was a South Florida task force. And we would. They'd be like, hey, we got one fleeing in Martin County. It's coming northbound. And then it would be like river monitoring. We'd be like, yep, we're all waiting right here. As soon as it came in our county, we were all systems go. We could pit, we could stop stick, we could wreck them. We could do all the cool stuff so that we were like that. But yeah, then fhp. FHP was wild because we couldn't talk to me. There wasn't. Because we weren't allowed. It was just that they have that weird ass radio system. But we would always get that call like, here's a trooper going 900 miles an hour out west, coming in the county. And you're like, you get out there, there's a car upside down, the middle of 60 troopers are standing around. You're like, hell yeah, dude. Like, they went full bl crazy. You know, they chase everything. So I still believe it. I believe in that. I believe in that.

[Tyler]

All right, we have a super chat from Pride. Florida is gay. Gay status achieved when DeSantis flew to Israel to sign a law criminalizing free speech. Free state of Florida, my ass. Yep, we covered that. We did win for Eric Flowers for pursuits.

[Mike]

One second, one second. Guess who was on the inaugural pursuit board to write the current policy.

[Tyler]

You Copville.

[Mike]

I was one of the five people assigned from the agency to make the pursuit policy what it is. And I was in back then. So the the beta cuck undersheriff Tom Rollin said to me, hey man, you're going in this office to make this policy. Make sure that your buddy the sheriff doesn't end up in prison or sued when you write it and help write it. And I made, you know, I assisted. So I'm not taking credit, but I was in the room for that policy that was very, very liberal when it comes to pursuits because we threw a catch all in there right at the bottom that said any incident deemed necessary by the watch commander. So that could be anything. That was the catch. All for if you want your boys to chase it, chase it. But if something bad happens, you don't have to talk about it. But we did it.

[Tyler]

All right, well, we are not going to get into any more topics right now because we are at the 51 minute mark where one day we will be on the radio, but we're going to go to a commercial break, we're going to come back, we're going to talk about the topic of the evening or the afternoon or the morning, depending on where you are. And that is street teen takeovers. That sounds like a cartoon you watch on Saturday. The innocence of the teen takeover sounding narrative versus what it actually is. We will be joined with the Dominic Izzo when we return. Over a century ago in 1910, the

[Ryan]

Flexner Report, funded by John D. Rockefeller

[Tyler]

and the Carnegie foundation, re engineered medical education from a holistic whole body approach which appropriately treated the body as an interconnected system to a compartmentalized approach.

[Ryan]

Under the guise of specialized medicine, they

[Tyler]

shut down or consolidated medical schools, marginalized

[Ryan]

naturopathic, homeopathic and chiropractic medicine, replacing them with symptom management and synthetic drugs.

[Tyler]

Allopathy is a marketing strategy rooted in fear and manipulated science. This philosophy carried into veterinary medicine, resulting

[Ryan]

over vaccination, unnecessary surgeries and manufactured food. Just like they did for people.

[Tyler]

They call it care, but it's predatory and based in profitability. The truth, toxicity, compromised immunity and chronic inflammation.

[Ryan]

They're not fate, they're engineered. And so is your power to undo them.

[Tyler]

We built three targeted formulas to return

[Ryan]

the body to homeostasis for pets and people to detox, defend and restore.

[Tyler]

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[Ryan]

We are vengeance.

[Tyler]

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[Tyler]

All right, without further ado, the man, the myth, the legend, Dominic Izzo.

[Dominic Izzo]

I'm glad I have that status. It makes me feel good.

[Tyler]

Yep, you do have the status, elbow legend.

[Mike]

Now you need that 3, 5, 35 status.

[Dominic Izzo]

Nice, son. You know, the. Here's the problem is you're. You're 5, 116ft, 511, 205. I can't. I can't have, like, I can't have somebody taller than me bench more than me because it's because I'm shorter that I have a bigger bench. So this is gonna suck you.

[Mike]

No, you will. If I My math is correct, you are 315 for 2 should put you closer to 350.

[Dominic Izzo]

365 is the goal.

[Mike]

I'm going with you. I'm going with you.

[Dominic Izzo]

But here's the problem. You can't. Don't listen to me. Just give me this. Listen.

[Mike]

All right, how about this? I'll at once I'll send it to you, but I won't talk about it once we get to the top.

[Dominic Izzo]

I can't have you bunching more than me, man.

[Mike]

But 370 is my record. I don't know if I can get back there. Yeah, 370. I have it on video with my wife as a spotter, which absolutely made it more important that I push it, because I don't know that she could have grabbed it and pulled it off my chest. But I tried to seat 375 that same day, and I had a dude spot me. But no, I'm three. I'm going with you. I think that one that was. I was with her. So it's five years ago. So 45.

[Dominic Izzo]

You're only. And you're only getting stronger. The old man strength is real. Like, I was not able to bench 315 in my early 40s. 51 now repping it, I'm like, okay, this is old man strength.

[Mike]

Tyler, 2:15 back. Then tell about you, man. Where you. Where you headed, Tyler, like 185.

[Tyler]

I've had bilateral shoulder surgery, my friends. Surgery on each one. So bench. Everybody that had shoulder surgery knows that the straight bar bench is not good. It hurts really bad.

[Dominic Izzo]

Bring your elbows in. Gotta bring your elbows in, dude. I've got wrestling injuries from my shoulder. They hurt like hell.

[Mike]

So put your testicles in and just get.

[Tyler]

Yeah, let them dangle a little bit.

[Dominic Izzo]

Gotta let the other one drop first.

[Tyler]

No, no.

[Mike]

I. I went through years and years of that issue with the shoulder. So I went like. This is ironic that I'm back here because for about two years, I couldn't do it either. There was just. It would not work. Under the flat bench, I couldn't get my shoulders to work. I went strictly dumbbells. But by doing that, I was able to get back on the flat bench. Which good do you feel?

[Dominic Izzo]

How damn good do you feel doing Carnivore now? And you're still putting that weight up. Isn't that incredible?

[Mike]

Yeah. I felt like I had. All I have for breakfast was the coffee with the bone marrow. Beef. Bone marrow. And then I went straight to the gym, hit it. And then I came home and ate six eggs and two burger patties. And I feel great. I'm starving again.

[Dominic Izzo]

It's only been telling you, and I don't want to give you a secret away, but it's like somebody told me because I was worried.

[Tyler]

The.

[Dominic Izzo]

I've done Carnivore several times, but never for a significant length. And in October, I did it, and it was day three. I went to go bench, and I couldn't. 225, I was struggling with. I'm like, what is. This is insane. Well, because then in my mind, I got in the whole, okay, well, I'm depleting carbs, so I can't do this at all. Somebody told me, you're not breaking your carnivore if you add a tablespoon of honey. Raw honey. Say, you know, 35, 45 before you lift. So I started doing Greek yogurt and a tablespoon of honey an hour and a half to two hours before I lift. It's. It's a game changer. I'm like, this is insane. I'm not. I have no carnivore lag, crash anything in the gym. So just adding, you know, that 45 grams of carbohydrates before significant amount of time makes you just, it just, it adds your strength huge.

[Mike]

Over the weekend, I added a 18 inch white bread cheesesteak roll. I was in Boston. I'm like, you know what? I'm not gonna suffer. I'm not gonna come to somewhere where there's fucking food that great. And you know, and you know, one day is not going to kill you. I snap bad one. The next day, much better.

[Tyler]

It was like, it was like, it was like eating with my wife. It was like, I'm only having this because. And you're like, yeah, babe. Yeah.

[Mike]

By the morning at the airport. Morning at the airport, I ordered two. They were really good. That Shake Shack has really good breakfast sandwiches. And I ordered them in lettuce. So I had two pieces of egg and I just ate back to it completely full time now. But yeah, I, I was, I'm surprised at the amount of energy. And for those at home, those at home, real quick, before we get it, you know, we want to, you know, I want to show off a little bit. So here's my 370 bench. Maybe. No, never mind. No never mind. My computer's freezing up, so I don't know what's happening.

[Dominic Izzo]

There you go.

[Mike]

Hold on.

[Dominic Izzo]

And I don't Max, like, you're going every week. I go like every, every month. But it's gonna have to be every other week now.

[Mike]

Well, hold on.

[Tyler]

Does anybody, does anybody want to know about the. You doing 70 miles an hour? Even like a triple whopper or whatever it was, dude, it was like driving.

[Mike]

My computer's completely locked up, so I don't know what I'm gonna do.

[Tyler]

Like, that's this big. And he's like, at like three in the morning. Oh, hey, Mike. Back out and back come back in.

[Dominic Izzo]

We can't have him out here with prevention more than me. Gotta get your squad up next.

[Tyler]

Well, the one thing I want to talk about is as we, we briefly touched on it yesterday and something I was laying in bed like, I did not even go ham enough on that thing. It was these quote unquote teen takeovers that are conveniently named to sound super innocent and not paint a picture of anything that, what it actually is, a civil unrest with 100 black people. I don't know, it just seems like it's, it's like we're not allowed to say it. Like I said at the beginning of the show, if I, if I show you a still shot, a video, and you go, okay. And I go, there's actually 337 people in this vid in this still shot. And you go, okay. And I go, every single one of them is black. Is that a problem or is that just a factual statement?

[Dominic Izzo]

Not if they stay in their own neighborhood. I don't, I don't. You know, I, I openly discuss issues with how the government, you know, I've been, I've been on podcasts and I ran on this from my platform when I ran for sheriff in 2018. You know, Chicago's got the, the second largest jail in the nation with the Cook county holding facility. It's a jail. It's not a prison, it's a jail. So you got houses anywhere up between, you know, 8,000 and 9,000 plus bodies. I think it could, it's, it's 10,000 is what it is. And a lot of these are for like petty crimes. You know, you got like people sitting in jail for weed and this net. And I've broken down extensively how well the prison system is. It is systemic racism. If you, if you have a housing facility that big, if you go all the way from, well, the jobs it's going to require to like the. I'm a uniform manufacturing company. I make prison uniforms. I make bed sheets for prison cots, I make commissary items, all this. Well, if my business is going to thrive, am I going to go to Acme, Alabama where they've got 100 person sell south, South, South California, they got a thousand people far northeast or whatever. Or am I going to go where, oh, this is a 10,000 person housing facility. I want the contract here. You're going to go there. Well now to be profitable, you have to have bodies in the jail. So that means all of a sudden, let's enforce these ridiculous crimes. Let's create these ridiculous crimes. Let's, let's keep the black guy in jail by Destroying their, their school system. I pointed out in 2016 that the average black male graduation rate from Chicago public schools was 67. So you keep them ignorant. Everybody knows the cycle. Fathers aren't in the homes. Gangs are prevalent. When Pat Quinn, who was our governor, lost his re election, all those people needed jobs from his office. So they created positions in the Cook County Sheriff's Department. If you look back in their records, in the early 2000s, 2010s, you had three directors of the jail, directors for the streets, directors of court and directors for the jail. After that you had 300 positions. And it's all on their website. There's a director of acupuncture, a director of yoga, a director of this, and they're getting $115,000 salaries. Well, you have to just, you have to justify those salaries. And it's, it's all over the place. And my long winded point is this, you know, you're going to create programs. Hey, oh, I got a democratic judge and I'm part of the machine and I've donated X, Y and Z and I came up with a 12 step program that's going to rehabilitate people who are offenders in Chicago. Well, I need bodies in my program because the government granted me $5 million for my project. So that means I'm going to talk to a judge behind the scenes and say, hey, you know what, give these people probation as long as they come to my program. The bottom line is that's a giant machine that is systemic, that you need a guaranteed culture that has no impulse control over themselves to break the laws and offense. So they constantly are exploiting the system. It, it's, it's non stop and it is, it's a black culture issue.

[Mike]

Yeah, I get, I get the money side, but do you, I mean, do people not have the ability to wake up and go, I'm not going to go to that thing today. No, I'm gonna look for a job. They don't have that option.

[Dominic Izzo]

No, here's why you don't. How do I say this lightly? Have you ever been on trend Balloon?

[Mike]

Yes. Okay.

[Dominic Izzo]

Trend Balloon. If you augured a, a hole into the. I think we've got a maple tree in the backyard. I would have mounted it with no lube. For those who don't understand, Trend Balloon took. Oh, you hear a lot of guys on trying, like, I can't control my sexual urges, on trembling. It's insane. I was on it twice. Never again. It was, I mean the carpet was looking good at one point. So I'm not able to control. Because you have influential drugs in your system. Well, if you look the black community, what are they focused on? Alcohol, weed, God knows what the weed is laced with the food. We've talked about the chemicals in the food like crazy. If we're talking about carnivore, carnivore diet and carbohydrates and what they do, the chemicals are nonstop, insane. I listened to a professor for the University of Cal Chicago back in 2002 give a lecture saying that most of the issues that he's done in his studies come from fetal alcohol syndromes in the black community. You've got a liquor store on every corner. It's the most thriving business in the black neighborhoods. Teen pregnancies, drinking. So to be honest, you know, a lot of people joke about the, the IQ studies from the black community. They joke about the prefrontal development, all of that. I, I don't understand why these are not legitimate, taken into serious consideration to say, oh, we have a problem in our country, in our culture, that we keep letting the government do this. So yes, we have to control ourselves. But the problem is they're too emotional.

[Mike]

What do you think? How do you fix it?

[Dominic Izzo]

Like the serious.

[Mike]

Put Chick Fil A in the neighborhood.

[Dominic Izzo]

No, you know what? It's a reset button, right? Everything with me is a hard reset button. And I, like I said, I defend the black community. I condemn the black community. Same thing with the police. But if there's not going to be any type of accountability and recourse, it's segregation. Stick to your own 100.

[Mike]

Do you think, do you, and we talked about this earlier, do you think I said this, that like, lack of like the leaders, like he, Tyler mentioned the Black Panthers and saying, well, why don't they step into these takeovers? Do you think for. Let's say there are black people who have made it out, they've made it out from that diet, that chemicals, all those things, and they're no longer part of, of that neighborhood issue, or they're no longer, they're, they have money. Guys like Tyler Perry and other kind of activist actors. Do you think they bear more the responsibility to, instead of just blaming everything and just saying, okay, this way, is it more of a responsibility to go, hey, let me give you like a guide out of here, like a guide out of here. Be like, stop eating that food, stop buying black and mild, stop drinking whiskey at our liquor at five in the morning and do something different.

[Dominic Izzo]

I'll give you the most famous man who Tried to do that. Who was America's dad?

[Mike]

Obama.

[Dominic Izzo]

No, America's dad. Martin Luther King, Bill Cosby.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. And he tried to set it. Yeah, he did.

[Dominic Izzo]

The Cosby show was probably the most watched family show across every culture in America. What they do to that man utterly destroyed him. See, the problem will always be in the treatment of the symptoms and never the solutions. That's why you'll see the. The. And it does suck. The Ben Crumps. I. I work. I have worked with Ben Crump's office. I have gotten him clients. But at the same time, I'll condemn the. The way that needs to be condemned.

[Tyler]

Business, baby.

[Dominic Izzo]

Well, no. Yeah. Justice needs to be held accountable. When it does, you look at Tawana Brawley's representative, Al Sharpton, you look at Jesse Jackson, you look at all the people who. Why would you. Why would you not capitalize monetarily the same way that these mega church pastors do on your people? If they're going to be that stupid, just keep farming them, keep sheeping them out.

[Mike]

Yeah, but that, to me, that breaks. This is where I go. It's not racism. It's. It's capitalism. Because why would you. If you're that serious about it, why would you're. You're basically, you're worse than the white man. If that's. If we're going down that route by capitalizing on your own people, like Black Lives Matter did to their own people. So they're, to me, more responsible than, obviously, whites. We had slaves. We did all those things. We were raised a certain way. There was a whole different outlook on America and the. And the blacks and every, you know, hundreds of years ago, and as it has changed, instead of those guys going, all right, we've made some real. We've made some strides here. We're not. We're not, you know, you know, slaves anymore. We're over here. Instead of going now, let's keep running with this. They just go, how do I exploit these people and make more money, make myself rich? To me, that's more of a sellout than any white guy could ever be.

[Dominic Izzo]

It's genius. Who created slavery? Whites or blacks?

[Mike]

I know who did. Yeah.

[Dominic Izzo]

Who is the most powerful man in America? Can a white man or an Asian? Can a white, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern? Can they close down 30,000 Starbucks for a day of sensitivity training because they weren't allowed to use a bathroom? The black man is the most powerful man in America. End of story. And the second that they step up and say, no, I. I Have everything I can get whatever I want based on the color of my skin. When you, when you, when you pull back the curtain and show the wizard, their power is gone. Why would they ever want to get rid of that? They're, they're, they're, they're brilliant.

[Mike]

They are absolutely that. My question is, who's the problem?

[Dominic Izzo]

Black leadership. Ignorant black leadership. 100.

[Tyler]

I think it's definitely the deep state trickling down in the Democratic Party. Trickling down to the need to have people.

[Dominic Izzo]

Well, Democrats out here, Republicans, especially in Chicago there are, the Republicans are just as bad. Why would you. It's, it's kind of like I'm not, I'm not a fan of Trump lately. I voted for him. I'm not a fan of direction. He's going. But Bullet, if you look at it, if you're gonna guilt like people who talk about the Epstein files. Well, Biden had him. Why didn't he release him? Because both sides are in bed together and expose. One side's gonna expose the other side. It's as simple as that. Same thing with the Democrats and Republicans. Well, they're making handshake deals behind the doors. They, they all know each other. They are 100. You want to do that? Great. Let's get. Because it's going to keep, keep funding in if I'm a Republican and, and I, I let the Democrats in Chicago go shitty over and over and over again and constant problems. I'm gonna let that go because I will constantly get the people to donate to my campaign non stop because there's always a problem. I've got the solution. Never gonna get elected, but I've got the solution.

[Mike]

I agree, I agree. I have the solution too. Pack it up. Move to Thailand.

[Dominic Izzo]

No, it's literally when it comes down to the culture and yeah, number one, I can't stand people. Not all black people. No, it's not. But again too, if I said, hey, I come from an Italian American heritage, everyone's gonna say, oh, mob. Yeah, that's part of my culture. And it is what it is. So it's a part of their culture. And the, the, the issue is, is that if, if I had the emperor staff of America, I would segregate everyone and we'd go back to tribalism. That's why you see the neighborhoods in Chicago and New York. Little Italy, Chinatown, Ukraine.

[Tyler]

We've been, we've been, we've been acknowledging that since they got here. Little China, Little Italy. We've been acknowledging the fact that people prefer this rather than being Forced to mix with one another.

[Mike]

You can't call it black town, though.

[Tyler]

That's all Chicago.

[Mike]

I mean, but I'm saying you can say Chinatown, you can say Greek town. You can say, you know, Little Italy. NYPD has a whole Jewish police department now. They have, like, a substation area of all Jews that just have their own police force, their drones. They have their own. They policed all their own neighborhood. So you're right. It's kind of like you can say it about just about everybody else, but you can't say it about some people.

[Dominic Izzo]

And that's power, that they are the most powerful people in America.

[Mike]

Yeah. Because I think what it takes, if you really want to mend it, you have to separate the black and white and just say, let's look at it like, you guys do bad things, we do bad things, but somewhere in the middle, there's some really good people that do, like, good things. They would have to get together. And. And that's where like, your Jesse Jacksons and your Al Sharpton is. They just. They inflame it, like you said. So there's always going to be some type of monetary value from controversy. Why would you want everybody to get along? And that goes for everything. Like you said, if we all got along, there would be no police left. We wouldn't need them. Right. We wouldn't need jails, we wouldn't need. We wouldn't need war if everybody didn't fight. We wouldn't need to build missiles and jets and submarines. So everybody would be like, this isn't good. Let's bomb an aircraft or a tanker so their oil prices go up. Let's start a war. Right. Like, I think that trickles all the way back to our own culture. And. And that. That's really. It sounds rough when you say it, but then when you think about it, it's exactly right.

[Dominic Izzo]

Well, what's the purpose of any business on the planet is to provide a solution.

[Tyler]

Well, it's.

[Dominic Izzo]

Provide a solution. Any business on the planet, you become an electrician. Let's go. You're hoping people have problems with their electricity. You know, you even start a podcast where you're hoping people will gravitate towards your stuff for the solution that you have to say. So there's no. There's no profit and peace. It's always chaos.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Dominic Izzo]

Nothing.

[Tyler]

Oh, yeah. All right.

[Mike]

The reason I brought that up was somebody was allude in. In a very nice way that Tyler seems to rant about blacks in a different manner. And I think it's you'll hear that more when we condemn white pedophiles and white dudes that are doing dumb. We say these nasty things about them. It kind of just. Nobody. You don't hear that. And I'll be. I'll give you the best. I'll give you the best example. I made a real one time, a meme, and it said when the colored gentleman is told to stand still, and it was some dude, like, just couldn't stop moving, right? I got so many negative messages. What I did, I screamed, I took the exact meme. And intentionally over colored man, I put white crackhead. And then I re reposted. I'm like, here. Nobody will complain about this one. That's kind of what happens.

[Dominic Izzo]

I. I don't. What was it years ago? Howard Cosell. What? It wasn't where he made the run. Monkey. Look at a little monkey.

[Mike]

That was the other guy, wasn't it?

[Dominic Izzo]

Okay, who was the one who.

[Mike]

Greek. Nick the Greek.

[Dominic Izzo]

All right, so Howard Cosell, I believe, talked about the fact of something about fast twitch versus slow twitch muscle fibers or the reasons why blacks can run, what, a certain distance. Biologically, we are built. We have some different similarities. Like, I know that bodybuilders, apparently the reason why black bodybuilders look amazing is because they've got a certain smaller density of their skin than whites do, giving them more striations. And they look better. You look at the calves of Asians versus the calves of white people, they're these fucking diamonds. They're incredible. Blacks have higher calves. You look at fast twitch versus low switch, slow switch muscle fibers in black anatomy versus white anatomy. We're different. We're built different. So I don't know why this is such an issue when you're going to talk about crime. It's called pattern recognition. If I sit there and say, oh, there's a car that's going by with four people and I could smell weed coming out of it. That's a black car. If I look at a car that's got a bunch of heroin needles in the bottom of it, that's a dumb white car. Car that's got beer bottles and cocaine. That's a Hispanic man. So I don't understand what this issue is. And here's the problem for people who are going to criticize Tyler or anybody else, continue with your ignorance. Because the day that you walk down the street past a group of black kids and you want to be so. I need to be so inclusive, and you wind up getting shoulder bumps, stabbed, set on Fire pissed on, curb stomped. Good. I'm glad that your peaceful mindset did that. But it's called survival. And I have no problem calling out black behavior. Currently in society is the most violent in America. If whites, Hispanics, any other culture committed the amount of shooting violence, carjacking violence, mob violence, at the rate that the black community does every single week, we would be extinct in a month. So until you're willing to set that argument up and acknowledge that no change can be made.

[Mike]

Yep, I agree. Damn. Because we call it out. I mean, I feel like we're very, very we. We spread the love. Like, I love watching white pedophiles get beat to snot boy. Love it. That's my favorite videos. And that's what should happen. And people who take over stores and mobs and act like crazy, they should be moved out of the area if forced SBU to use it.

[Dominic Izzo]

Culture has their crime. Sex assault crimes. Hispanic and whites 100%. The pedophilia whites, the, the, the, the. The sloth, physical violence, laziness. To a degree that's going to come from another community that we talk about. So the problem I have is don't think as people go all the time. We'll talk about your white school shooters. Well, sadly, they're getting a little bit more overshadowed lately by the trans community and black community. But yes, whites are these problematic. Overdosed prescription medication, abusing whites, shoot up schools, serial killers. I'm sorry. Go talk to Phil Chalmers, number one serial killer expert in the world, and he will tell you it's not whites. Blacks are the most offending serial killers on the planet. So we can talk about it. Because the same thing, these street takeovers, sure, they happen once a quarter when somebody's super bowl or baseball team wins a World Series. That's when whites get that stupid. But whites did it at the same ratio that the black communities do it. Our streets will be burned down. So it's as simple as that.

[Mike]

I agree.

[Tyler]

Thank you. Dominic. Dominic. Tomorrow night, cop talk live. YouTube.

[Mike]

It's always funny when one of those dumb white guys falls off like a light pole in the middle of the stupid.

[Tyler]

Yeah, the drunk.

[Mike]

Yeah, like dumbass.

[Tyler]

All right, there he is a communist Marine.

[Mike]

He was in the chat directing us the whole time.

[Ryan]

I was a lot.

[Tyler]

Guys, I thought I saw, I saw, I saw Ryan in there going, we can't say colored.

[Mike]

It's not colored.

[Ryan]

Like, we don't use the term colored anymore. Oh, might want to avoid that moving forward.

[Mike]

I get called so many words. I don't know which ones I'm allowed to say back.

[Ryan]

This whole, like, crime propaganda was fascinating, and I just want to, like, uplift the martyrdom of. Of Chris Dorner on this, you know, show before Memorial Day because, you know, rip. To a fallen veteran and former police officer.

[Tyler]

Is that. When you do that, are you doing it mockingly? Are you being serious?

[Mike]

I'd be serious.

[Ryan]

The thing about art is that it's.

[Tyler]

I have to know it. I have to. It's on me. I have to know the story. Once I go look at the story, I'll know if you're being facetious or if you're being serious.

[Mike]

You don't know the story.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I don't. I asked you guys every time I

[Mike]

told you the story. Yes. There's. There's a. I'm gonna tell my version if I'm wrong.

[Ryan]

To check out the story and legacy of Chris Dorner in the quick. Probably invite you to read his manifesto.

[Mike]

Yep. Send it to cnn.

[Ryan]

Want to talk about, like, racial issues in policing and racialized policing. It'd be important to have some. Some, you know, greater context.

[Mike]

You should re. It's actually. I mean. And when I say a good story, I don't mean nothing is good about death.

[Ryan]

I guess I gotta leave and come back so I can hear you. I can't hear you.

[Mike]

Be right back.

[Tyler]

Yeah, do that.

[Mike]

You gotta watch. Read about it. I will. Here come the comments.

[Tyler]

Time to take a comedy dump.

[Mike]

Disappointed. Good. Can you hear me?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Mike]

All right. Yeah. I was saying that he should. He should definitely look into it. And in my version of the quick version of the story was bullied racially. A lot of racial slurs hurled his way, mistreated. And then he went on a little spree, and he killed a captain, his daughter, maybe one other person, and then ended up barricaded up in the mountains. They set the place on fire. And it was a pretty. Wow. So he said there was a shootout, and with the cops added, like a. He broke into, like, an abandoned ski resort house or something, or ski house up in the mountains. And then during the exchange of fire, allegedly the house caught on fire.

[Tyler]

It's crazy how that happens.

[Mike]

And he died. And then in a very sick way, in a very. I'm about as honest as I get, in a very sick way. It became. I don't know how to say this without. Sound like a dick, but almost kind of rooted for him. At some point, he, like, was like. And of course, it's immediately just, he's a criminal. But if you read his manifesto. He talks about how he was treated. The N word was hurled to him constantly. He was put down at the agency. In the locker room he was treated unfairly and he just snapped one day. He was army vet and he did quite the Navy. I'm sorry, Navy vet. And he sent a manifesto to like Anderson Cooper, CNN and a bunch of people. And that was a huge story. I'm surprised you didn't. I'm surprised.

[Tyler]

I know I remember it, I just don't remember it. I remember it happening. I just don't remember the context.

[Mike]

It was kind of like the DC shooter situation where every day it was just all the coverage was on. Where's Dorner? There's a sighting. He's here, he's there. It took over. It only lasted like a few, four days or a couple days.

[Ryan]

It might have been a police robot that intentionally set the fire at the cabin.

[Tyler]

Terminators, dude. I'm telling you, here we are, right?

[Ryan]

And so eventually we're probably going to be fighting like robot dogs for access to clean drinking water because these data centers are dominating all of it. I do want to kind of uplift. You know, there's this guy you guys been posting recently that might have served in like Watts in his, you know, career. There's a good article, it's called A Tradition of Violence. The History of Deputy Gangs in the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. The Compton Executioners. I know up here in Oakland we have the regulators, right? And so I was just wondering like, if you guys have any thoughts on. And the LA sheriffs also had like their own cop gang. And the name of it is escaping me at the moment, but like, is it important to include these, like, evidence of, you know, systemic racism? When we're talking about the conditions in, in Watts, for example,

[Tyler]

man, you always bring so, so much loaded stuff. I love it, Ryan. So there's so many facets like out of, out of. If you brought up just 10 mini points right now, I agree with you in about four of them. I really do. 100 when we start. We're all older now. We're all at least what, 40. So I mean, we all have. Our brains are way more developed than when we were 25. And you look at. If I was to look past policing on the streets, if I look past that, I do think it is the deep state keeping everybody down. And. But I, I also served in those boots of the police officers. And I remember not knowing that. I remember going, I'm doing this to protect my community. That's why I'm here. And crime has to be stopped and I still have an advocate of that. Crime does have to be stopped, whether you want. Don't. Whether you want it in your neighborhood or not. Ryan, I'm, I'm here to protect you and your thoughts and your protests against me. It's your right. And you know, there's a lot of reasons why I got out of the job, but that might have been one of them is that, you know, we were just talking, I think before it was before you came out, so you probably didn't hear it, but how the deep state and the government needs people on. They need the welfare system, they need them.

[Mike]

Can, can I say. So here's where I go. The difference in the racism part, which I'm not saying it doesn't exist and there isn't people that are racist, but you make some very good points for the deep state and, and the people that control the housing markets. Do you not think that it's. They're controlling all of us? Is it, is it because you and I agree, like the rent, the buying of houses and then renting them higher than they could actually mortgage keeping the mortgage rates high, keeping. We never really own our home. I mean that's one of my biggest. Like I'm 50 and I will, I will be dead before I own my home. So do you think, and I know it's tough to navigate this because. Do you think it's there, it's all of us. There is a group of people at the very high end top that we're all just a bunch of whatever derogatory term you want to use for all of us. We're all just scum. And then there happens to be by nature some racism and some, and some segregation and all that stuff. But in reality, all of us are the same little ants just walking around, ready to be stepped on.

[Ryan]

The proletariat, the hoi polloi, the great unwashed masses. I am just the landless rent peasant in San Francisco. I may likely never own, you know, my, my home. This whole like American dream that gets young kids to join the military, for example, right? So I'm so glad that this awakening is occurring and this is, is a function of capitalism, right? We've all played Monopoly as a kid, right? Monopoly was. Well, we could talk about that later. Tyler.

[Mike]

A war, a riot broke out before when somebody got too much money.

[Ryan]

And I'm just saying, right, Like Monopoly was intended, really. It's an anti capitalist game, right. As an outcome of the like the Gilded Era, you know, in the United States. So it's really important to like, acknowledge that. Yeah, it's designed to accumulate, right? And so what does this mean for the future when we're prioritizing data center water over human drinking water? And if we're really honest about data centers, it's really the Panopticon police surveillance state, which is this outcome of empire and decline. And so we got this surveillance state. We got advanced robotics, maybe Boston Dynamics, they're teaching these things how to break dance and do backflips and carry refrigerators.

[Mike]

The.

[Ryan]

The police dogs, right? And then we have AI Artificial intelligence. And so in this era right now of massive labor displacement, right, Folks are being laid off by the thousands at this moment. So you bring up a really good question, right, about the elite, the parasitic elite. Epstein class has no regard for us. Absolutely.

[Mike]

I agree with that.

[Ryan]

In this future, where we need less labor, right? We need less consumers also, probably there might not be a need for us anymore.

[Mike]

No, I mean, everywhere you go, it's. It's. If you really sit back and think about it, that's where I have to filter in order for me to connect. Whatever we're doing, we're connecting, right? We're agreeing. I have to get rid of. I just have to remove the racism part from my brain because I don't know whether we're going to agree on that. I don't say you're not right on some of it. I just say. But if you just go in that little box you were just in, I am having more awakening to the fact that that's all we're here for. As a. As a low class, middle low class, what we think is the dream, we're really here just to work for other people. People like nobody wants. No boss of any corporation or company wants to see an average dude succeed, Right? You're not in that club. You're not rich enough. So as I've gotten older, I start then when I joke I about moving to Thailand or moving to Vietnam or moving to some country, my money goes a lot longer because my reality is nobody cares. Like, nobody cares what happens to me. Nobody really cares what happens to general society. Rich people are now using AI to get richer and make things harder, make housing harder. So I agree with you across the board in that area of we're being priced out of basic life. Basic life that we all want. We're being priced out of it.

[Ryan]

Yeah. And dude, I really want to just acknowledge you, you do offer a lot of generous Concessions about things that we agree on and our points of convergence. And I really want to, like, acknowledge you for that, like, good faith conversation. Before I was a leftist, I was a liberal. Liberal. Before I was a liberal, I was an independent. Before I was an independent, I was a conservative. And along with some associates I had in high school that were like far right people, if I'm being honest, we joined the Marines. So there is real possibility for growth, healing, change, unlearning learning if we're open to it. Because if it happened for me, it might also happen for you. Yeah, well, in the context of race. Let me just land the plane too. In the context of race, right? This was the plan, right, to divide the poor and working class among each other was this divide and conquer tactic around race. And it was the invention of white supremacy. Like, yeah, white rent peasant, your life sucks. But not as bad as that black guy over there, right? On the other side of the tracks, you know. So I think we cannot divorce race from the United States as historical context to the modern era. Black women are still the most at risk inside the hospital system.

[Mike]

So would you say this though? Would you, would you agree with this though, that I don't know that you will. But I think, and when I say it's worse, hear me out. I think it was worse years and years and hundreds of years ago because of there were less power, more powerful people. And I say that sounds crazy, but now there are so many powerful. When I say powerful people, we don't even know way up there. I believe we've all been pushed now to that pool of we're just nobody. We're all nobody. Is it worse for black? Yeah, I believe blacks have it worse in a lot of areas. And, and, and I'm not going to disagree with that. But I think that we have all now been pushed on the other side of the tracks. So now on the other side of the tracks, in our subculture, maybe there are some issues and I'm not going to go crazy about, but I believe we are all now way on that other side of the tracks where and the elite are just cleaning us up. They're cleaning us up all together. And why we're worried about little things. And I'm not saying, I'm not taking my feelings don't matter, but we're fighting out the little racism and the snap benefits and having these little arguments. These people over here are just stacking in the deck to the point that aliens are real. This is real. That's real. This real. And now we have robots, like he said, dancing around. At some point, this lower, like 99 of America is not gonna be able to do any. I can see us being imprisoned in another 100 years where all of us.

[Tyler]

I can't. And I can attest to what you're saying. It's a. It's a manufactured hatred when they. When someone. When a young gentleman enters the prison system for an extended period of time, he will. He might learn. No one hates you because your skin color. Now, it's politics now. This is how we make money now. This is all done because of skin color. But I do believe the hatred kind of dies down and it becomes business. It's only people in the middle. That's my belief. There's only people in the middle that are actually like, really agitated, right, with one another. And then so up above us, the puppet masters, they're. They're just doing their thing. They're distracting us with little things here and there. And then you get down here, the people that make mistakes go to prison for extended period of time. It just seems to be that, like, the hatred dials down for the other color and it becomes more of a business. Hey, we. We only do this for this. If this, this and this. It costs more money to do this and this, but we're willing to waive that for this and that.

[Ryan]

I'm glad you're bringing in the prison system because the systemic racism in the United States sure has maybe changed, right? But it might be interesting to kind of question, has it really improved? The. This country was built on the genocide of the Native American Indian and the displacement and dispossession of these folks and built on the economic power of the African slave. Then civil war occurred, right? Abraham Lincoln's doc, the proclamation, right. I forget the name. Right. But so then the structure of racism, right, Evolved into the Jim Crow, right? Separate but equal, different drinking fountains. And Then the Brown vs Board of Education occurred in the civil rights movement. So racism evolved again in the United States to the prison industrial.

[Mike]

You think it was on, but do you agree that it was on? I don't think regular. And if there was a such thing, regular white people, right. I don't think regular white people decided we're gonna. This racism thing, I think it still comes from the top and is. And was pushed on us to make what we see right Now, I don't think. I think genuinely at the core, because it sounds crazy. I'm being dead serious. When I go in a casino, everybody's fighting the man, right? Everybody Wants that man on the other side, which is the house. There's no racism at that table for that, for those moments when we're all on a common ground. We all. They're high five. And I got a Haitian guy, I got an Asian lady, I got. I. I was sitting next to the University of South Carolina women's head basketball coach for the Gamecocks. Black female lesbian. We were best friends. If I, if I went to her page beforehand and saw her second picture was Michelle Obama and she went to my page and saw the war hat and everything I post, we probably would have stood on opposite ends of the room. But because we didn't look at any of that, we sat down next to each other when we're fighting the man. We were high fiving, having a grand old time, took a picture together. So I think at the core, if you took all that stuff out of it, I think as humans we would help each other and want everybody to succeed, succeed. But because we're conditioned with capitalism and all that stuff up top, we are being told and forced out of that ability and we all fail.

[Tyler]

The top being that here's how it works, right? Mike, you're the puppet master. You're up here, I'm the average guy down here. And you're like, I really want Tyler to hate. I really want Tyler to hate Ryan. So you go and you tell Ryan, I can I condone you interrupting Tyler every time he opens his mouth and you start twerking on every object in the room every time Tyler puts the camera on you. If you do that for 10 episodes, Tyler is going to develop a visceral hatred for Ryan because of. That's what he does. And so I honestly think that's what it is. Mike Talon. Mike wants Tyler to hate Ryan. Right. Let's just say in the scenario, so Mike's gonna do everything he can until Ryan do these things, because these things are acceptable. And Ryan going, okay, I've never been on a podcast before. If that's what you want me to do, I'll do it. And then I am so mad at you for doing that. But it's really Mike doing it.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I, I love this sort of idea that you're bringing in. And I think that's reflective in those of us that do have like the gray hairs, the propaganda that all we, we were brought up on that has sort of demonized the person living in an economically disparate part of town.

[Mike]

Right.

[Ryan]

And I also want to like, expand that same thing that you're exactly talking about we've used the similar dehumanization tactics towards the overseas enemy that happens to be brown and Islamic. Maybe black, the same thing. These are the terrorists, these are the insurgents. You know what insurgent really means is innocent, indigenous, probably a peasant defending their homeland from an invasive extractor and occupier. But we call them insurgents for some reason.

[Mike]

Sounds more dangerous. Yeah.

[Ryan]

And it, it. Well, if we dehumanize them, then we can kill them.

[Tyler]

Them.

[Mike]

So here, hear me out. Since we're. Since we're Kumbayan, right. We're all getting along, we're gonna smoke weed together and we're gonna put our communist Marine Corps hats on. Would you. So your dislike for police. What if in this grand scheme all these young guys are joining, like Tyler talks about, because they think they're doing the right thing, but in reality, the machine at the top is what's causing all this. So when you dislike the police, and I'm using. It's a broad term, I'm sure there's. You gotta like us a little bit. We're both former cops. But I'm saying, when you say, like the police are bad, what if I go into the plea and like 90 of those guys. Let's go. 90, 80 of those guys all believe they're doing things the right way. They want to catch the cat out of the tree. They want to help do a lady who fell down. They want to keep people safe. Right. They want to do those things. They don't know. Just like I didn't know when I was a young cop to how up the whole administration was. They don't know. So when you say you don't like police, you think you could maybe get the message of better and get more police to listen to you by not just going, I don't like the police. I like the men and women who are doing the job for the right reason. I don't like the entity.

[Ryan]

Yeah, this is a super good question. It reminds me. Tough on systems, soft on people. I don't like the institution of racialized policing in the United States. Right. Human beings do join these organizations for a wide variety of factors. Right. It's one of the highest paying jobs for a low educated person in the country. There's all the propaganda, like I said, that indoctrinates us towards this, like hero worship.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ryan]

And when I'm speaking about the police, it's also the same for the veteran. Right. Great film called Theaters of War that talks about the link between Hollywood and the DoD over decades to produce propaganda And I think this is. This is the moral obligation of the veteran and the former police officer is to uplift this right to prevent these war crimes from continuing. There's a great book called they Thought they were free Germany 1930-45, which also talks about all the economic incentives that folks join Stormtroopers and Nazis, you know.

[Tyler]

Well, I used to be a big advocate of preaching the fact that many, many, many veterans have a problem with cops for whichever reason, mind you. There's multiple reasons, but there's a lot of them. I since died down on that since we've been trying to unite people under our broadcast as a group and as that. But many veterans do not like the police. A lot of people say, well, a lot of veterans become the police. And my argument to that was, is that the best job veterans, war veterans becoming mercenaries, makes sense. It's what they're good at, right? You could. You could not. You could say, well, I don't believe in that. But if there's a job skill, we're going to pick the war veterans going and policing our communities. I've always said, I'm a war veteran. I was infantry, and I went right into police work because I. Police work was something I've always wanted to do since I was a child. So I was able to decipher the difference between policing our own population and going to war against an enemy. And so I was always an advocate that, you know, maybe it isn't the best. I do want to see jobs for veterans, and I always saw these police administrations saying, we hired 30 veterans this year, and that's great. I love veterans getting jobs. Don't get me wrong. But I was. I would be raising my hand saying, is this the best job for people like that? People saying, oh, put veterans at our schools with guns. That'll protect the kids. I'm like, have you seen some of these veterans? You really want war veterans? I'm just asking. I'm not saying it's right, wrong, or indifferent. I'm just asking the question, do you want war veterans who all claim to have PTSD armed to protect your schools? It's a question. I have my belief. I would say, yeah, but people don't think about that, because the one time it happens, that one time a veteran has a breakdown and does something stupid out of school, we're all gonna be like, whoa. And then people like us will go, well, what'd you think was gonna happen? You hired a war veteran? Like, they're not known for their stability.

[Ryan]

Great question. So glad you're bringing this up and, you know, some schools have metal detectors, right? In some schools, schools don't. And the, you know, school policing is a whole conversation about the school to prison pipeline. This is also a topic I hope we can maybe unpack at some point in the future. And yeah, you're right. You know, the infantry veteran, the special forces veteran, really doesn't have a necessarily, like, civilian equivalent in terms of job skills that are as easily accessible as policing.

[Tyler]

Right.

[Ryan]

I don't want to limit your potential at all. Right. I'm just off. This is the. I think the easiest approach. And I think, you know, we already have so much experience in domination and being bullies. And if you really want to, like, heal, you'll choose firefighting. You'll choose, like, paramedic emt. If you've taken lives, I think you can really be restored through actually, like, saving lives.

[Tyler]

Yeah. It's funny you say that. My friend Zach, I deployed with in Iraq. He went on to do more deployments. Dude's a savage. Like, savage. Like, like, didn't care about anything. I'm like, dude, at. At 20 years old, this guy's a psychopath, dude. Like a psychopath. I reconvene with him about 10, 15 years later. He became a medic. And he said he was going through it so bad for what he did at war. It was eating him up inside. And this was his only way at, like, redeeming his soul, was helping people. And now that's all he focuses on, saving lives. And. Yeah, you're true. When you were saying it's true.

[Ryan]

And so, like, a lot of us, we were led astray, right? We thought we were joining the police or the military to become Luke Skywalker. Then when we get in, we realize, we look around, oh, we're stormtroopers. And so.

[Tyler]

No, I'm just saying, like, you know, no one told. If you would have told me at 19, don't join the infantry, literally, as a business decision, don't join the infantry. There's nothing to. You could do almost anything outside of artillery and, like, maybe a Cav scout and infantry, outside of those in the conventional army, those three jobs, there's nothing to come back to. Everything else has something. And you couldn't have told me. No, I. I would have told you. Absolutely not. No way. I'm doing everything. It was a pride thing, right?

[Ryan]

And a lot of, like, the Call of Duty propaganda, right, Saving Private Ryan propaganda has sort of influenced us to misinterpret masculinity through violence. Participity for violence and participation in violence.

[Mike]

Let me catch up some super. Let me catch on some super chats. One quick. Because we got people paying money, real good money. 100% correct on the scam. Once you get into the system, the corrupt orgs attach themselves to you. It's not racial. That's Pride Assassin processing again. The orgs exist to drain your pockets. Pride Assassin again, I am the police. You don't want cops. Hell yeah. Me rather. I am not going to police you in my ao. And Cody says one second. Ryan, what's your favorite shark? And do you know what your one mile run time is?

[Ryan]

I just want to acknowledge Pride Assassin. Thank you for your contributions to the conversation. It's also a reminder that the average American has the, the literacy of a sixth grader. I grew up on Shark Week. To the other question. The great white shark was my, my favorite. I had a boss at one time too. We call each other Hammerheads. So yeah, Shark Week was a thing. There was a second part of his question. My 1 mile run time. Good question. Under 10 minutes. Minutes. I've been focusing more on Muay Thai boxing. So high heart rates, shorter bursts, three minute rounds.

[Tyler]

That's one thing I've asked you about music. I've asked you about stuff. But you agree fitness is key to life, mind, body and soul, Right?

[Ryan]

So exercise is among the best treatments for depression among exercise. Dance is the best form of exercise for depression.

[Mike]

I can't dance. That's why I'm very depressed. Not even a little. Not even a little. Not even a little bit. I exercise.

[Ryan]

It could be part of a longer conversation.

[Mike]

It's not going to work. I've tried.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I honestly think. But I know you got to go around. I think that was Pride's way of an olive branch. I think he was agreeing with you. I think Pride stays up very, very late. He works night shift and he stays up till mid afternoon to watch the show. So sometimes when his typos. But I do think he was trying to agree with you a little bit.

[Ryan]

I'm open to that. My history with Pride Assassin, I know it's bad.

[Mike]

Hey, look how far we've come.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

But I will acknowledge to everyone in the comment section and yeah, like, how far we've come. Like folks have DMed me down the line years later, like apologizing, noticing that everything I said was true after they like looked it up and things like that.

[Tyler]

So.

[Ryan]

And one guy also wanted to like commit violence on me, like meet up and stuff. So that happens. All the time also. So I do kind of like, yeah, train, I guess, for that. And, like, I'd rather smoke a joint, you know, I'd rather, like, kick it and have, you know, and like, really, we can gamble.

[Mike]

I'm good.

[Ryan]

I'm a partnered man now, so I don't want to chase women anymore, but. And, yeah, back to, like, gambling, too. I'm unconvinced that casinos are necessarily this multiracial utopia, especially when they, like me, are put into really bad neighborhoods. Native Americans.

[Mike]

No, no.

[Ryan]

Hey.

[Mike]

Bad neighborhoods. The one in Boston is beautiful. All right, take care, Ryan.

[Ryan]

See y' all next week.

[Mike]

Thank you. You got Chris Dawnner show a couple updates. We just had a guy, a white guy, sentenced to death right here in Vera Beach, Florida.

[Tyler]

He what?

[Mike]

Sentenced to death. Just happened. Jury just sentenced him to death. He killed. Buddy said he killed a guy in a motorcycle shop. Said shot him in the head and then set the place on fire. I was involved in the case. Former fireman. Yeah. Yeah, he shot him and set the whole building. There's. He's a. There's cameras everywhere. He thought he had some perfect crime and he forgot to leave his cell phone at home. And all the dumb that criminals don't do. So that just happened. One other thing happened. Hold on. What else was happening while that was going on?

[Tyler]

I thought one state went to the firing squad for convicted.

[Mike]

South Carolina, maybe. Carolina child.

[Tyler]

Is it if you. If you rape a child?

[Mike]

Yeah, it was something like that.

[Tyler]

Firing squad, bro.

[Mike]

Oh, here we go. I want to bring that. I wanted to bring this up because we were just there. Cambridge, I'm pretty sure was. No, Chelsea. Chelsea was right on the other side where the casino was. But Cambridge, Mass. Somewhere in Boston. Right there is the same. And they. I wanted to bring it up. Orion was on, but we ran out of time. They have just deemed shotspotter is racist. Cambridge City council has made the claim that shotspotter is racist.

[Tyler]

Oh, well, explain what shotspotter is to people.

[Mike]

Shotspotter, for people not at home that don't understand is a electric. It's basically like the Flock cameras, but it's a device that sits about every couple hundred yards. You have to have one in the. In wherever you put it. Almost. Almost got my. Caught myself. You have to have one every so far away. And it creates a map of the area. Actually, Mishman showed us they have it there in where he works.

[Tyler]

It's a lot like what Batman used to get the Joker. At the end of Batman, whenever a

[Mike]

gunshot goes off, it Notifies the police records it and it sends an alert. And we were there. And they had a shots fire call earlier that day where a gentleman in a nice neighborhood fired five rounds off in a parking lot of an apartment complex. And we were able to hear it, see it, kind of. So Cambridge, Massachusetts, has deemed that the technology that tracks gunshots is racist. That's where you lose me. So you lose me. I try to make headway. I try to get somewhere good, and then you tell me something like that. And I think you're a. I think everybody's a who. Who says that or votes for that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I think people like us really want to give Ryan and Brian. Next time we talk to Ryan, we'll

[Mike]

tell him, let's see what he said. Pride says, ryan, you threatened me. I gave you my exact location. Then you folded and blocked me

[Tyler]

fighting at the gas station pumps every night. No, but I mean, people like us want to. To. Ryan wants peace, love, and happiness. We. We know. We're not idealists. We know that the world is full of dangerous people, and you will be victimized if you live like that.

[Mike]

Butter is racist,

[Tyler]

Though.

[Mike]

Is it the gun's fault? Is it the gun's fault?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Is that anybody really? Like, they voted on it.

[Mike]

They voted. They voted. City council voted. It says Cambridge council votes to end use of ShotSpotter technology. They claim it's racist.

[Tyler]

Where is it? In Cambridge. Where?

[Mike]

Mass, right by Boston. They forget about it. Then they get in the car. He is right. The casino is in the hood.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but like, the. Like I said, the Indians don't seem to mind.

[Mike]

No, the Indians, they. Dude, they got a racket in Florida. Yeah, I got a picture that was sent to me. Let me get it on the screen real quick. I get so many text messages, dude, it's not even right.

[Tyler]

They need to sign up for your app, bro.

[Mike]

No, you can't spend that kind of money, dude.

[Tyler]

Piece of $5 you, man.

[Mike]

I didn't even say it was $5. I said very low price. And that was my number. But. Here we go. Image file. Somebody said, this is. This is Ryan.

[Tyler]

I wanted it. I was like, oh, the great white.

[Mike]

He had me a great white Muay Thai gay shark.

[Tyler]

Then he was like, me and my boss called each other hammerheads. I'm like, oh, that sounds even gayer.

[Mike]

Yeah. Hammer throat. Hammer throats.

[Tyler]

Somebody wants us to call him, says he's available now. If you want to jump off here, we can jump on the phone.

[Mike]

Somebody. Somebody from yesterday,

[Tyler]

from this morning. He talked

[Mike]

this morning.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Mike]

All right, let's roll. We appreciate you guys tonight. Counterculture. Night shift it will be. I'll be remote. Is anybody coming?

[Tyler]

I'll be remote probably, too. I got. I gotta call Gator. But we don't have Lewis the first time. Lewis is.

[Mike]

All right, we're remote tonight. I can do it.

[Tyler]

I can do it. I can put a camera. You'll have to produce, though. I can't do any production when I'm sitting in that chair, so I can't. You want to produce, huh? Well, me and. Me and me.

[Mike]

Well, we can figure out if he's coming. If he's coming, we'll do it that way. If not, we'll do it remote. And we'll be back tomorrow, 1:00pm for the. And I have to bounce early tomorrow because I'm going to a baseball game.

[Tyler]

We'll end it early, man. We got no obligation. We sit here and hang with the boys. We bounce whenever we want.

[Mike]

All right, we'll see you tomorrow. Or see you tonight, and then we'll see you tomorrow. Jv team for life.