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Tyler
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Mike
win the Powerball and buy us all really cool things.
Tyler
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Mike
In Patreon, like yesterday when we talked about the stuff and Tyler went on last night in Patreon, kind of cleared some things up. We talk about behind the scenes things. Things that you guys need to know from the Patreon exclusive membership tiers that you can get in there. Still. Some run videos, some workout videos. But, you know, when you hear things on the air that we kind of don't talk about, you head into Patreon and we'll clear those up. And if you want to be the exclusive place, it's the antiheroapp.com. you go to the antiheroapp.com, you sign up, you pay 25amonth, which is exclusive. Our own. It's our own app, own social media network. We're posting in there regularly. We're talking to all the OGs. That's the place you get the real, real deal and the jokes and kind of get a little preview of what's coming. No, you know, when the haters are hating, you know, we talk about it
Tyler
in Patreon strong lately.
Mike
And the app.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
When they can't get in, they can't. When they fall into a relevant land, it gets tough.
Tyler
I think they just hate that. Like, you know, cops, I. I say this time and time again, if you love the job, stay in it. Government work in general, stay in it. If you love it. What do you mean?
Mike
Unless you're not allowed to stay in it.
Tyler
What do you mean?
Mike
Like, maybe you get thrown out of it.
Tyler
Well, I would be fired.
Mike
Oh.
Tyler
Oh, because you're a sexual deviant.
Mike
Yeah.
Tyler
No, if you like the job, stay in it. But if you start seeing yourself not liking the job, start an exit plan. And I think a lot of people hate on me because I retired early, but they don't know that we started this stuff three years before I retired. And they're like, who's this guy up here saying cop work and the brotherhood's dead and all this stuff? I'm like, hey, man, I'm only here advocating for you, my man. Like, I'm advocating for you. If you want to sit there and be the small minority and the first stop. I reply to the comments, I say, I'm happy for you, dude. If you've got the. The dime piece, the. The one. The. The one and only agency, that's perfect. Stay there. That is great for you. But like Mike says all the time, you shouldn't be telling everyone, suck it up, buttercup. It ain't that bad because you should be going, hey, I need to take my experience and make sure everybody's getting this. So we need to change some things.
Mike
Yes, I agree. And that's where I think it gets lost by people who maybe have never falling on that side of things. And then, you know, there's guys that start their requirement plan by just, you know, doing bad things at work. And then, then it kicks right in and they have to retire or resign under duress. So that can happen as well. But it's like a dinosaur out there. We have a dinosaur in the lobby. But no, you're good. But yeah, that's it. That's. And that's what the kind of stuff we talk about in the app. And, you know, people are here to create drama just like we are. We're here to. We bring the, you know, the controversial reels and all that stuff to bring the awareness. We talk about the bike riders. You ride bike, don't you?
Eric
Not anymore.
Mike
But, you know, this is all at the end of the day of this, it really is for to bring people together. And I continue to like to see the people that try to tear it
Tyler
down, try to have a good show, man. We bring positivity. Our biggest drama is bikes. Obviously we're kidding if you ride a bike. But there's people that take that seriously and they're like, these guys, he's fat. He should be, right? I'm like, dude, it's like that's setting you over the edge is saying you shouldn't drink milk.
Mike
Yeah, it's interesting.
Eric
Yeah. I was in a bike unit for about five years of my career. And, you know, all the cops looking at you the same, you know, stereotypes, you know, but it was actually a really good workout. You know, I mean, I got trained. I was getting paid to work out on duty and I loved. And some of the extra, you know, take down things we could do, but overall, it is easier than running practice falling. Yeah.
Mike
My man Gravy. Well, that's. That's funny. The only bike cop I really didn't like was the other guy, the Orlando guy. The little short guy from Orlando pd Worked at the airport too. For a while. We kind of, you know who he is. You talked, I made a reel about him. And then. You don't remember that guy? No, because I made a real about Gravy and Gravy went viral on his own. And then we ended up obviously being really good friends in it. But there's an example of, like, the mocking of the show and the joking brings, like, him to one of our live Events now he's part of our, you know, our tight crew. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's good until, you know, like I said, there's people that set out to just ruin people's lives and let them.
Tyler
Dude, let him. Dude. I, I have the, I, I, I. What they don't understand is that people come to me and go, hey, I'm a man. What's this about? And I go, oh, here's what this is about. And they go, okay, you got no life. You want to, if you want to watch me on your screen and hate my guts, I'll take the view. I don't care.
Mike
I mean, I don't even look like that. It's just, to me, it's the, you're jealous. Not, it's something, there's some condition that because I don't watch people I like. You'll never catch normal person. You'll never catch me watching or interacting with somebody I don't like now. And you get into politics and all that stuff and there's sometimes you have to interact with people and I, I preach that like I can work with people I don't like. But then when you get into the realm of like criminal mind and deviant behavior type people who have no other life but to try to sabotage and, and all that, then those are people I don't, but never, I just don't, I don't, I don't interact. I don't watch.
Tyler
Yeah, it, here's the thing, dude. If I'm not, when I'm talking about cops getting out of the job, I'm talking about people that are good cops, that are, that are, that are just, it's, it's, they, their happiness is now at risk, you know, they can't do another 10, 15 years doing it. I want them to get out. Getting out because you're a sexual predator and you stalk women and you have an IA opened up on you, you bail on your ia, you resign, and then the state goes to pull your cert because you're a predator and you go try to fight the state for your cert and they still take it. That's not who I'm talking about. That's somebody that needs to be monitored 247 and be on websites. That's not who I'm talking about. Yeah, but there's a clip right there.
Mike
Yeah, that'll be, that'll be. Probably be played later for 11 views, 5 likes. Those 5 likes and 11 views are going to be pretty Epic.
Tyler
Let's get into it, dude. Let's do this. FBI. So, in case you guys aren't aware, the FBI, quote unquote, and I'm not trying to take away credit from the FBI, first off, I want to get a shout out to a couple newer faces. I see the L Cup 24. Checking the video from. Oh, Urban Valor Brag was a wild place. Very true. And some people I've seen, you know, Ada stress kind of newer to the group, but thanks for joining us. Obviously, all Gator, Joe, Mark, all the. All the. James, all the. The usual cats in here. We love you guys and thank you so much for the support. Let's get into it, though. FBI thwarted terrorist. So what had happened was.
Mike
Oh, you mean they weren't all focused on Sean Strickland?
Tyler
No. Oh, imagine that. You would have thought that was the big.
Mike
I thought that was the terrorist.
Tyler
That would be. That would be the one that would. That would get all the limelight. No, this is actually a real law enforcement effort to stop and it required a lot of agents to do the job. So what I'm going to do is share the screen. You think I have this done by now, but I'm not a professional yet. All right, go ahead and throw that up there, Eli. Group plan to attack the White House USC event using snipers and drones. So what? It was a group of about 23 people.
Mike
Wow.
Tyler
And the main leader is this dude right here, Tyson Proper. Yeah, it doesn't.
Mike
He looks like somebody I know. Isn't that what they all do? They grow out a really big beard look like. Yeah, they turn. They grow out a really big beard and hide their face behind the psychopath behavior.
Tyler
Anyways. God, that looks just like him. Him and 22 other people that were FBI undercovers or. No, no, no, no. These guys were actual terrorists. They. They were going to use explosive drones, fly them into the. Into the event. As they exploded, people were going to run and they were going to have snipers taking people out. Very, very, very.
Mike
How far do you. How far. I haven't seen this. How far did this plan get?
Tyler
His mom ratted him out. They're not far.
Mike
So he like, talked about it out loud.
Tyler
It got far because of what JD Vance spoke on was the fact that he's like, I'm not worried about these 22, 23 knuckleheads. I'm worried about the funding in the organization that it took to get these guys. Look at this guy. That's not a guy doing a 24 man nationwide terror. They were all gonna fly into Fredericksburg, Virginia. But it turns out, you know, I guarantee you they're gonna say he was on our list. What is that big FBI quote they say all the time?
Mike
He was on the. He was, he was on our radar. He was on our radar.
Tyler
But what happened was his mom ended up ratting him out.
Mike
That's why you live with your mom, right? It's tough to be a terrorist living with mom.
Tyler
The FBI thwarted a plot. Sunday's USC event. The White House has been. Has arrested five men so far. The U.S. justice Department said on Tuesday. Part of the plan evolved, striking nearby buildings with explosive drones and then firing on high value targets. This suspect's singing like a canary by the way. He's given up the entire plan. One suspect was arrested in Ohio where investigators reviewed the encrypted messages. Prosecutors said charging documents had allegedly expressed ultra religious and anti government sentiments. Allegedly plans attack were stopped cold. FBI Director Cash Patel said. In a multi state operation, the suspects identified. Blah blah, blah, blah, blah, a bunch of names. They were arrested across four US states and each had been charged with conspiracy to commit murder.
Mike
Is there any connection to a discord group called the. The daycare? Was anybody. No, no, nothing. Okay. No, this sounds, this sounds like something that obviously very, very serious. And I've said this, I've said, how long till our first cop gets blown up with a drone? It's coming. Yeah, there's a day traffic stop. Somebody's gonna write or get it. Yep. You're gonna have a drone flown into cop cars and it's going to start and it's going to get real ugly. But I wonder how far this really got.
Tyler
Well, I mean, look at this. By using the drones, the plotters aim to spark panic and draw the fleeing crowd towards the sniper team. A second wave of attackers was allegedly supposed to storm the White House gate. I don't.
Mike
You can't get four dudes like that on the same page. It sounds cool to talk about it, but.
Tyler
What do you mean?
Mike
I gotta fly to D.C. i gotta ask my mom.
Tyler
Yeah, you can't even get dudes to do a weekly show on a network.
Mike
You would have to. You're not gonna be able to fly with all that stuff. So you're gonna have to get to Virginia and then start buying explosives and buying drones up. Because you can't obviously not go get an airplane with it.
Tyler
That's true. And that's.
Mike
You're gonna drive.
Tyler
But I think that's the coordination JD Vance was talking about. He's like this was way too much. He's like, we're actually trying to get to the bottom of who was behind this. That guy is proper. Isn't. That guy's last name is proper. I can guarantee you is not the criminal mastermind behind this. The plot was discovered through proper. His mother called local authorities late June 10, just before the high profile event. Was concerned about his large firearms purchase and what she had seen. Online communication with group chat claimed to be made up. Made with a group that claimed to be made up of former military members. They wanted to jump start a revolution with high value targets, wealthy people and politicians. They had specifically discussed grievances about government corruption, the handling of the Epstein files, data centers taking up all the communities, government actions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's my biggest. You can bring it down. Here's my biggest thing on this. How far would they have gotten? I. I don't feel comfortable the FBI getting credit for this when it was his mom that called the local cops.
Mike
I would love to hear that call like, Johnny Q. New guy at the. Yeah, my son's gonna blow up to ufc.
Tyler
No, he's not, man. I'm.
Mike
Stop calling like, I just. I just sat down for Chipotle, man. Like, please. Like, what are you talking about?
Tyler
Yeah, like.
Mike
But yes, this sounds like, you know, that's like you go to a rollover crash and there's cocaine everywhere and you get some massive cocaine stat for find a bunch of drugs. Like, obviously this was never off the ground. And they go to the kid and be like, hey, dude, like, he gives it all up. I mean, it's great that obviously we want to happen. I just wonder the seriousness. Like, you know, we all say we've all said something silly right out loud. We've all said something silly in a group chat. It's a joke.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
Not that this was a joke, but how far? That's what I'd like to really see. How much was actually like, yeah, bro, you know. You know, 3am drunk in the lobby, hey, we're gonna win. We're gonna pack it up. We're gonna start this revolution.
Tyler
You want to know what the app they used to signal. Signal. So you all you guys sitting there thinking that's encrypted, I guess.
Mike
But yeah, that's what I figured.
Tyler
No, they. They thought they were using signal, which I'm all for. I'm never gonna text anything that Uncle Sam can't hear or see. I don't care. They don't care about me and my wife arguing or me Lecturing my son to be home. They don't care about any of that. I, as a personal choice, give up the freedoms of the Patriot act that I. I lose in order for. For security. For. To be able to have dudes beat the. Out of each other in the White House lawn. Like that's. That to me is a fair trade. What do you think?
Eric
Well, think about all those mom calls you get. They're always a cluster, right? When mom's telling on her adult son for something, usually it's like a bunch of. Bunch of rifles. You just know the report's gonna be like, oh man, I'm definitely gonna have to do a long form. Yes, there's something.
Tyler
Sarge, is there an FBI guy that works for.
Eric
I get Crime scene out here to help me.
Mike
You know, that's what I'm trying to think is like taking that call, being a supervisor and being like, hey, I'm just this lady or something about her son. Some UFC event, they're gonna blow it up and you're just like, oh boy, oh boy.
Tyler
This is. This is.
Mike
This is not just a quick. We call them nrn. No report needed. Yeah.
Eric
On.
Mike
But I mean, obviously, can you imagine
Tyler
being the local cop that blew that off and they traced it back.
Mike
We got a call about this a month ago and nobody took a report. Hey, man, these cops today, you never know, they might just blow that off.
Tyler
That was the cuckest thing Tyler's ever said. You. Cece, he was there. I was saving your life, bro.
Mike
Yeah, we were.
Tyler
The patriarch saved your life.
Mike
Dc.
Tyler
You were there. You were watching the fight on a Jumbotron a mile away. You were technically still there. You could have been sniped, bro, and the Patriot act save you.
Mike
He was safe anyway. His background had him safe. They even kept Sean Strickland away from him.
Tyler
Do the feds have the ability to listen? Yes. Do they? No. Lol they listen to. Man, they. They take too much manpower to look at your gay porn habits, bro. He said, literally pulled over my mail truck to type that. But yeah, I mean, again, my. The biggest thing I'm going to take away is had mom not ratted him out, I. I don't know how far they were gotten, but given the FBI credit, like they've been doing a 12 month long operation. I mean, that's kind of like the guy that did the traffic stop when all the narcs were telling him, pull this car over and the guy's like holding up a kilo like this.
Mike
This is. This is the way this Is this.
Eric
Is.
Mike
This is intentional. This is a teaser. This lets you think we got it all under control. Nobody else better try. That's why I would think they try to minimize the mom part. Like, because you would want to think that they just. We just figured this out.
Tyler
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've only seen one report of the mom. Yeah. Fox News is not saying that.
Mike
Yeah. They want everybody to think like, you're.
Tyler
I think it's BBC.
Mike
Your FBI thwarted this plan.
Tyler
Yeah, BBC did it.
Mike
And then like, way at the bottom, it'll be a little small and disclaimer. A mom called, like. But no, I mean, obviously it's safety. I've. I've been very concerned about this all along, and I'm gonna go. People keep talking about the flock cameras. And I. I agree there's some data being collected there and some things, but drones, man, the fly cameras are not gonna chase you down and blow up now. So as we get distracted, I think the drone situation is going to be a huge problem.
Tyler
We've been fighting this drone legality for a long time. You guys remember the legalities of a drone flying over a backyard? What. What do you need to be able to see in that backyard? Is it. Do you need a warrant to look in a backyard with a drone? Now, if I, as his neighbor, can do it, should the fed or should the government be law enforcement be able to do it? And I. It's a. It's a big fat no.
Mike
I think the drones know that the. The helicopter. We could. As long as they don't use a zoom in, like from the eye. From a person's eye in the helicopter. If they can see something illegal in the backyard, we can use it. The drone was. No, you have to. You know, now it's going over. But think about, like, doordash drone. Doordash for drugs. Like, when is it. It's going to get to that point. Like, I can buy a 10, 20, 30, 50 drone that goes eight miles or whatever. And you. I use an encrypted network. You send me your address and your crack lands. Your crack lands in the backyard or your. Your fentanyl lands in the back. I don't. I'm telling you, that's the least of our problems.
Tyler
They haven't even am. I think once Amazon starts utilizing the drones, when they said. They said they were going to a couple years ago, it never came to fruition. But they've got. They've got. I remember we all went out of town. Where'd we go? Philly or Jersey? One of the two. And we were walking downtown. We were visiting, you know, this. The. The area. And we. For the first time ever, I saw an Uber eats robot.
Mike
They're all over Miami.
Tyler
I'm like, what?
Mike
I just went to my last cruise. We were waiting for the Uber. There was like 10 of them went by. They got names, and they're walking down the street or wheeling down the street.
Eric
Are you prepared? Like, if you're doing. You're hitting a house, and now you got drones there and ro. Robots bringing food. So now you're trying to clear a house and you got all this other stuff.
Mike
Just think of a drone. I mean, if you start getting into what you're seeing in Ukraine and Russia, war, like, blowing up. Think about. You're on a search warrant, and then a drone starts flying around. You're going to think. First thing he's gonna think is what? Must be ours. Yes, Right. First thing, our guy. Our drone supports you. And then, bang, it blows up. And you're like.
Tyler
Then you see the drone guy sitting there like this, and you're like, I thought the drone.
Mike
So it's like, when do. When do criminals get to that next level where patrol the dope house with a drone?
Tyler
And that's.
Mike
See the cops coming from blocks away.
Tyler
Yeah, that's like swatting a fly with your hand, though. You got a drone, you see something on the drone, what do you do? You're gonna shoot at it? No, you can't shoot at a drone.
Mike
The Florida guys do. We saw that yesterday. Florida, man.
Tyler
But I'm like, the cops aren't going to be shooting at a drone because they have to watch their backdrop. The chances of you hitting a moving drone are very slim. So now do we wait for them to go? And I'm thinking out loud, swatch, search warrant, right? Hitting the drug house. Tons of guys outside, right? Let's say the search warrant's done. You got tons of dudes. You got a couple. I mean, right into the Bearcat, eight dudes in the back while that door's still open, it's gonna be devastating. And I'm. Dude, I. I hate even talking about it because the part. Part of me is like, don't give anybody ideas.
Mike
But that's already being worked up. Dude, stop. If we got guys willing to blow themselves up with vests on and we got all that, you cannot tell me that. Have you seen some of those, like, Japan and China shows they put on the drones where there's like a million.
Tyler
They do it at Disney.
Mike
Yeah, Like a Million of them working together.
Tyler
That's Skynet, dude. That's when they take over. We got a super chat from goon Sgt. Tyler uses flock to watch boys. Somebody holding Outlaw suggests buckshot, although you have to worry about where the rest of it goes. But Atestress Adastrus says network's great for drones, and I guarantee you that'll be the next thing.
Mike
Well, there's nets all around them. Notice UFC event had nets all around that outside of the actual ring.
Tyler
Those are for bugs.
Mike
No, no.
Tyler
Maybe that's why they made up the whole bug thing, to not freak people out. Because they wanted drone.
Mike
No, that was for. That was. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Drone nets. They did talk about bugs. Yeah, no, that was not for bugs.
Tyler
And then, I mean, I guarantee you, like, right? Like you're on a SWAT team. I remember the old dogs, dude. A battery RAM is all you need, right? That was their mindset. And now the teams having to keep up, much like law enforcement has to keep up with the newest technology in Axon, we're spending. You don't want to be the department that didn't have Axon. So now the. The teams have full rooms full of tools, and, like, the next one's gonna be like, hey, you need to buy our little net shooter contraption. Because what happens. And a good SWAT commander is gonna go, well, we don't want to wait till it happens. All right, let's buy a net shooter. You're the net shooter guy.
Mike
What the is this thing? Can we work on that this afternoon? Can we get that in Drone taker?
Eric
That's part of accreditation now. You got to get the Net shooter.
Tyler
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
Though that's. That's the other scam is once somebody gets into the accreditation and says, you have to have this, then you're buying it.
Eric
That's it.
Mike
That's a scam. That's another scam. Dude, don't get me started.
Tyler
There's approximately 1 ounce copper and 1 gram of gold inside each flat camera. Don't tell Slater they have GPS in them. Oh, okay.
Mike
We had one knocked down, and the dude thought it was scrap, and he was not. He was not, you guys. He picked it up, took it home, and we went right to his house.
Tyler
Really? Yeah.
Mike
That's gps.
Tyler
Ah, you guys are making fun of me for being the Fed. Look at the El Culp, the L Cup. Not only was that likely, not for bugs, but this indicates that they were ahead of the plot. All right. FBI enthusiasts. Geez. No, they're right, though. My boys fighting in South Lebanon have giant nets around vehicles and it works wonders. Damn. I saw your boys in Lebanon.
Mike
Drones over there. I saw a dude the other day going down the street or on the back, right by his head, dude, drone. Explosive drone like almost to his face.
Tyler
I'm sitting here, I'm sitting here telling urban on that Urban valor. They just released another real today where I'm talking about EFPs. And I'm sitting there bitching about EFPs. Guys overseas at war now are having to deal with drones. All that.
Mike
Yeah. Chasing them into holes. Chase them into their what? Dude, that's crazy. It's not crazy. Dude, please, please, please. They're shooting that.
Eric
Yeah, I mean, that's the worst.
Mike
What a shitty. Eventually, I guess can it replace the soldier.
Tyler
It's gonna. Their machines are going to. Technology is going to take over the battle.
Eric
Drones.
Tyler
You guys have not seen scene 100
Mike
drones to the scene and just drops them out.
Tyler
If you guys have not seen Terminator 2 Judgment Day, that should be something that everybody watches by the age of eight. It will tell you what's going to happen. AI they tell you AI is going to take over. They're going to realize threats are the biggest threat to humans. And so they're going to take out the humans as. As a machine thinks, it's not emotional. They're just like, hey, humans are a threat. And then, well, the machines know we. The humans need us and the humans are going to try to stop us. So we need to take out the humans.
Mike
Humans kind of like animals. If they figured it out ever that we're the biggest threat, animals just decided to turn on us.
Tyler
The geese are coming down.
Mike
The geese. The.
Tyler
The geese with drones. You cops.
Mike
Yeah.
Tyler
Speaking of geese, let's do a reflection. One of the comments on Facebook for the geese thing. I'm not gonna dog on him too much. I'm glad he commented and it wasn't rude by any means. But he said. We released a. It's actually an older episode. About two weeks ago we released a clip that we talked about the crazy cop that ran over the geese. And this guy commented on it. Arkansas State Police Director. Oh, first he said, you. You need to research on what actually happened. This is not a simple situation, which he doesn't watch the show, so he doesn't know we broke it down.
Mike
He ran over the geese.
Tyler
I know, but we broke it down. We went through every single scenario.
Mike
I mean, simple. Ran over the geese, he said.
Tyler
Arkansas State Police Director Colonel Mike Hanger posted a statement on Facebook. He's copying and pasting this saying the trooper was trying to protect drivers and passengers from the geese he mentioned in an incident 2017 which he mentioned in an incident in 2017 in which a car slowed unexpectedly and there was rear ended. Dan rear ended an SUV killing three people. So they justified killing the geese in an incident with from 2017. Eli, go tell them to shut the up, please.
Mike
That's like, I mean there is nothing
Tyler
quite as dangerous as interstate slowing or stopping, which is true. Unexpectedly at the end of that he also wrote the trooper tried to get the geese off the interstate for 26 minutes and had been instructed to shoot them before he ran over the goslings. He wrote that many people online hate the trooper that killed the geese. Hard to imagine why good people wouldn't want to enter the field of law enforcement subject themselves to this type of public scrutiny. The people in the bleachers always have it figured out. They could execute the game plan so much better than the players on the field. Just ask them. So I, I get it. I'm glad that colonel for the state police defended his guy. But especially when the guy was getting orders from above to take out the geese. That is just a bad one.
Mike
But that, that, that mindset is then if that's the case and that there was an incident one time where geese caused an accident. Pursuits kill people every day. So let's stop pursuing vehicles. Right. I mean that's the, that's basically what he's saying. Which we can't stop doing. I mean I, I get it. It's. It's an animal. It's never going to look good. So instead of maybe defending him more, I would have just left it at like police, police. I'm not justifying it but I would have just said hey, police works ugly. It could have caused a wreck. We do. We did just leave it at that.
Tyler
Don't.
Mike
When you try to over sell.
Tyler
Well, you know in 2017 someone died.
Mike
Right. Like that's. Yes. And also Arkansas, if you go Google Arkansas State Patrol pit, they pit at like 150 miles an hour every time. They don't care. That kills people all the time. So if that's the case and back in 2017 then say, well you pit people at 105, 125 all the time. They're one of the most reckless pitting agencies. Which Cool. Love it.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
But you kill people every day pitting them or all the time pitting them and that's not a problem. We're not going to stop doing that. But Those geese killed somebody 10 years ago. We got to run them all over. Like, we kill. Just kill them. Do you kill them on We Do It Anthony Bandanas. Do we kill. Do we kill all geese on site because they could potentially cause a car crash. Like, is that the new answer?
Tyler
All geese.
Mike
All geese must die. So I, I, I. And like you said, I couldn't be that guy. You can't give me that order. I'm done. That's the day I'm done. Hey, boss, whatever the case, whatever the big. Whatever noise the geese make, I'm out. I'm going with them. Yeah, I lost my job for geese.
Tyler
Yeah, I don't think you'd lose your job, especially because one of the stories
Mike
we glazed over, if you want to go into this, is this dog that got shot by lapd.
Tyler
Oh, I did not hear that.
Mike
Yeah, and I don't want to open. No, I don't. I, I can't go too much into it because I am soft when it comes to dogs.
Tyler
You're gonna cry.
Mike
Yeah, it's bad. But there's like, video. I'm not playing it. There's video. Yeah, they were.
Eric
That's why it's censored.
Mike
Yeah, her dog was shot by lapd and there's like video of her sobbing on the stairwell. And it's been pretty bad and un. Intentionally. I posted that meme yesterday of the cop run rolling from the dog. I got bit.
Tyler
That was funny, though.
Mike
Well, then everybody's tagging LAPD in it. Like, look how this guy handled the dog. So it's just a.
Tyler
What happened?
Mike
Says
Tyler
Mike's like the media over here
Mike
just telling us who witnessed the death of two year old dog after he was fatally shot by the Los Angeles Police Department over the weekend. Still processing what happened. Maria said she, her family was heartbroken over the death of the Golden St Bernard Doodle. Jameson the Pooch was shot by officers at the LA Police Department on Saturday after they alleged he charged them as they responded to a report of a woman screaming. Jameson's death happened moments after the Knicks championship. So they were celebrating a basketball championship. That's why she was screaming.
Tyler
Who called?
Mike
Officers were called to the apartment complex by another person about a woman screaming. Next thing I know, he was on the ground, I see the officer shoot him twice. I did see that. I was right there as it happened. And then a lady. There's video lady sobbing as her dog is dying.
Tyler
All right, well, let's, let's, let's break this down. Mike, whose fault is it
Mike
the cop for shooting the dog.
Tyler
Oh, my God.
Mike
No, you can't listen. You can't shoot a dog.
Tyler
That's like saying you can't shoot black.
Mike
Discharging your firearm is the utmost importance. We only do that allegedly. Let me finish. We only do that when we are allegedly in fear of death or great bodily harm to ourselves or others. Have you seen a Saint Bernard golden doodle mix? They're goofy. They're goofy. They can be big. I from experience, you know.
Tyler
You know the most dangerous dog statistically is a Dalmatian because people think they're so friendly and they're not. They're a dog.
Mike
I can say from experience I have, I took a guy down that was starting to kill himself with a gun right next to him. When I tackled him, I didn't realize there was like a 70 pound pit bull in the house. And when I hit the ground, all I remember was the dog just going right on my neck. And I'm like, this dog's gonna kill me. And my. But I watched my buddy pull his gun out of his holster and I said, don't shoot it if it bites me, I swear to God. Swear to God. I said, don't shoot it unless it bites me. Because he was ready. He was gonna kill it. And it was. And it did nothing. It ran away. Ended up running away. Lady came in.
Tyler
So we've got to put our lives on the line.
Mike
No, dude. I would say based on what Wayne Ivy standard is we can. Dogs will just bite anybody. They'll let people get bit by dogs. So sometimes you have to, you know, if it's good for the bat, good for the goose, it's good for the gander. You don't have to put your life on the line, but, dude, you got to give a little more. More time than a dog charging.
Eric
You ever been bitten by a dog?
Mike
Yes.
Eric
All right. It's not the worst thing in the world, right? I always figured I'd have to take
Tyler
a fighting guys here right now. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Just gotta let everybody know how silly you sound. Go ahead.
Eric
No, but I've tried to separate dog fights before, you know, and I always felt like with a family dog, you almost. Unless it's a pit that you know from the hood or something that's real aggressive, you almost got to take that bite first. It just seems like you guys are out of your.
Mike
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Eric
It's not a nice shot.
Mike
Just like you like, you like to see things, right? You like to see, like, assess, like, the. The aggressiveness or whatever. Like, I want you to look. Just look. I want you to look. Picture this dog charging you, and I don't. I want you to tell me at what point you'd be scared.
Tyler
That's the dog.
Mike
Yes. Now. Now that's like saying, take it up.
Tyler
A five, six, white male head had a baseball bat.
Mike
Tyler has a baseball.
Tyler
We gotta wait because Tyler doesn't fit the description of an aggressive.
Mike
Look at Jameson. Look at that dog. Put a basketball, put a football. Hey, man, that's the best picture of Jameson I've ever seen. I'm just telling you, that dog could not charge me in any way, shape, or form that would make me pull my gun out now if it bit me.
Tyler
You got to let him bite. Do we got to let the guy swing with the bat first?
Mike
No, that's different.
Tyler
Oh, how's it different?
Mike
Because it's a personal safety.
Tyler
It's. It's the officer safety that you don't care about because you're biased towards dogs.
Mike
I. I just want everybody to be clear. I donate monthly to the Cozumel Humane Society and the local humane Society. I love geese. I love dogs. I am not a murderer like Tyler. So just make that clear for the clip that I don't advocate for death against dogs.
Tyler
I'm gonna leave that out.
Mike
I'm not, and no deal. But just think, like, there, you see it just like everything else, right? And I'm not saying we can't be wrong. When you go, hey, I thought that dude was okay. And you get. You're right. You get. You watch a5.5 dude walk by smelling like, I got this guy. He ends up being a black belt in jiu jitsu, and he kills you. Yeah, that can happen. You're like, man, I underestimated this guy. Yes, you can underestimate dogs. I've been bitten more by chihuahuas and little tiny dogs than I have by a large dog. I was bitten by a Doberman once. I. I know that dogs can be crazy, but remember, if your brain is in right, and you're thinking about everything, dogs are usually doing things for defensive reasons other than like, a fighting dog. I've uncovered fighting rings where the dogs are trained to kill. That's different. This dog lives in an apartment complex. It's a pet. They are territorial. You're at the door, they might break free. You have to at least give it a little time. A little time.
Tyler
Joe says, I'm also scared of people, but they don't look aggressive. Either.
Mike
So I would think you give it.
Eric
Take a bite from a person.
Mike
I mean, yeah, you might. You have to let it bite your lunch. You got to get bit first. So I look at that dog and maybe. And this is, this is me. I'm a dog person.
Tyler
Right.
Mike
Let's say I'm. Let's say the most non dog person is sitting next to me. They probably would agree more. Dog. I get it, right. You know, if you're not. If you don't love dogs, you're not going to really care. You don't love geese or wildlife in general. You're not going to really care about the cop running over people go to Africa and kill lions and elephants. It makes no sense to me.
Tyler
I don't think they're allowed to do that anymore. Are they?
Mike
Certain places they poach them still do it.
Tyler
The richer rich people think, yeah, it does.
Mike
To me, it's like, oh, wow, you killed a. A 6, 000 pound elephant that had. Or whatever they are, they're huge. That has no chance.
Eric
Right.
Mike
With this bullet that's like this big. How manly.
Tyler
If you don't like, usually set up where they're not going to get attacked. Like it's a, it's a. It's a hunt, It's a trip.
Mike
It's a hunt. Yeah. Like, I think if you want to hunt a lion, you gotta. You get a knife and then you get to go. And I watched that.
Tyler
Go ahead, watch that.
Mike
Go hunt your lion. But I'll be honest, I got my sticker right here on my laptop. It says got that dog in me. And this was a one. My first sticker I did was a. Was for the power Powell for rescue out of Texas, which is a dog rescue. So I am a dog person. I know I would not shoot that dog. Now, I've been on a call where a dog like bit of car tire of one of our patrol cars and punctured it. The dude was on the roof, like getting away from the dog. You might have to shoot that dog. I agree.
Tyler
Here's the thing about cops and dogs is that I've never gotten any formal training about how to deal with dogs. And half the houses you go to, you have dogs in them. There's just no, there's so much liability that comes with training cops on how to respond to dogs. It's just easier to say, if you feel your life is in danger, do what you need to do.
Mike
Should we play the dog video?
Tyler
Because if I, if I'm trained to get bit first, I'M suing the out of it. And I don't think you're.
Mike
No, you're not trained to get bit first. And I know.
Tyler
I'm saying if I was.
Mike
That would be wrong. You can't. That would be too much determination.
Tyler
Is that what Sheriff Dilks is going to ask?
Mike
No, no, I would. Everything is. Is in and of itself its own situation. But I would encourage people to understand that the connection that people have to their dogs. Like we have dogs or PTSD dogs, we have service dogs that perform. Imagine you have a vet who's pt. We're all advocates for ptsd. A vet, he has. He has a shepherd, he has some type of service dog. You knock on his door, the dog barks and same scenario, he bites him. Dogs highly trained would never bite. But it's a German shepherd, looks aggressive. Imagine the damage that you would do to that vet who's gone through.
Tyler
First off, vets that have service dogs are frauds. Oh, God, dude, those are the guys that want you if. Those are the guys that want you to think and know that they suffer from people.
Mike
So I guess that's so.
Tyler
I'm sorry, dude.
Mike
I could say guys who ride bikes. Guys who.
Tyler
No, I'm not even saying it's not manly.
Mike
All service members with PTSD to have dogs or frauds.
Tyler
No, that's a fraud. That's a fraud. Dude. The guys that want to sit there and say, look at my service dog because I have ptsd. The service dog isn't trained in anything. You're a grown ass man.
Mike
I am not part of this conversation.
Tyler
You're a grown ass. I'm not saying that you can't have ptsd, dude. I'm not saying that at all. But walking your service dog around with his little American flag. I'm sorry, dude. I know people in the chat agree with me. Dude, it's the most obnoxious thing ever. And then you find out. Where'd you deploy?
Mike
I don't know that PTSD has to just be deployed, though. Like there's.
Tyler
Oh, basic training is pretty.
Mike
No, in general.
Tyler
Boot camp.
Mike
The DI was really mean. What if you were. What if your dog got shot yesterday and you'd have ptsd? You don't deserve a service dog.
Tyler
Wait, if you got.
Mike
The lady in LA now has no dog and she's got pts.
Tyler
No, I'm talking about veterans, okay, that walk around with their service dog and their beard and their curved hat with their flag on it. I'm not a veteran. I don't want to talk about it. Let my dog lick you.
Mike
Oh, man.
Tyler
That's gonna.
Mike
Yeah, that's gonna.
Tyler
Should I clip that one or no?
Mike
Yeah, you should definitely post that. You will get more hate. Let's, let's, let's play that video I posted yesterday of how you should handle a dog. If you encounter a dog as a police officer, this is the proper way to do it. So watch this guy. This guy's serving a process. He doesn't realize there's a dog and this is how you should handle it. He's just playing, right? Just nipping. Stop, drop and roll. We learned that in first grade, right?
Tyler
Dude, that guy is terrified of that dog.
Mike
Look at that. That dog's tail is wagging. So the dog's playing.
Tyler
Shut the.
Mike
The dog is playing. That is an obvious sign of dogs that are playing their tails wagging. They're just like when you bite people with the. The canine. But the dog's not doing anything wrong. It's on a leash. It's at its own house minding his business. This guy's complacency leads him to walk right up to a door without checking anything surrounding.
Tyler
That is true.
Mike
Yeah. He doesn't check his surroundings.
Tyler
The dog is probably under the porch waiting to kill someone.
Mike
Not waiting to kill somebody because he really doesn't bite anymore. Nips at his pants a little bit.
Eric
How there'd be a dog sign on a fence. And you. You're thinking about, do I check the backyard or not? Yeah. Jingle offense. You're always speaking.
Tyler
No, dude. If there's a dog. If there's a dog in the backyard fence, I'm not going back there. Not unless I have to.
Eric
That's easy. Nope.
Mike
But look, he does. He's not going to run away because he's too big to run away, but he does.
Tyler
So he's out of breath from rolling. Dude.
Mike
I mean, that was the first. That is the first time I've seen the stop, drop and roll actually used when you're not. And it wasn't on fire, it was a dog. So there's complacency. So that I'm going back to the LA thing. I wasn't there, but knowing there might be a dog, hearing the dog bark, being prepared. I believe that a lot of guys are startled by dogs and their first response is to shoot them. I'm not shooting a dog.
Eric
There's a lot of dogs in la.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
In an apartment complex. For a lady celebrating the New York
Eric
Knicks, Crips, Bloods, they all got Jameson.
Mike
This is the biggest Injustice since the squirrel.
Tyler
What's the squirrel?
Mike
The squirrel in New York. What was the squirrel's name?
Eric
Yeah, about that.
Tyler
Oh, the government took him and killed him.
Mike
Killed it. And then they found out that it did nothing wrong.
Tyler
Yeah. What was their acc. Man, I barely.
Mike
They said there was. They said he had it without a permit, so they came and took it. Then they said it bit one of them, and in order to test it for rabies, they had to kill it. So they killed it and then it all came out that it was all. Anyway. Wow.
Tyler
What's his name? I felt bad for that guy.
Eric
No. And it was no rabies, too, so.
Mike
Yeah, Peanut. Peanut to squirrel. Yeah, for Peanut. Justice for Jameson. Justice for Jameson.
Tyler
All right, let's don't shoot dogs unless they're coming at you. If you. It's like South Park. If you yell, he's coming straight for us. You can't shoot Lee legally.
Mike
Yeah, that's the same as yelling. He's reaching for something in his waistband and he's naked, and then you shoot him. Because cops are. Cops are good at that, too. What's that old don't go reaching.
Tyler
Don't go region.
Mike
Looked like a gun.
Tyler
All right, let's talk about the Trump ballroom situation. Now, liberals are furious that Trump is trying to build his ballroom for events so he doesn't get assassinated. You can put it up there. Yeah, there you go. Oh, let's get rid of that ad. Sorry about that.
Mike
It's Maybelline. If you shoot dogs, you need to wear Maybelline.
Tyler
They are. The 300 million project is probably going to cost about 600 million now. But here's the thing that gets me, is that this is obviously very anti Trump. This is vokes. They're like, your tax dollars are going to pay for Trump's ballroom. No, your tax dollars are going to pay for a ballroom that every single president will be able to utilize. Trump's not uprooting this.
Mike
Just like when they bitched about him buying the new Air Force One. He's buying a new plane. No, he's not going to see it, because by the time it's built, he won't even be the president anymore. But he authorized the beginning of it. The same thing.
Tyler
Great.
Mike
It's not going to be finished. It's going to be somebody else's will. The ballroom will be the next president.
Tyler
Yeah. So, I mean, all those people saying that Trump's the bad guy. That is a great point. Trump is building a ballroom for other presidents to be able to use because he's have Flex 4 attempts on his life.
Mike
Not gonna demolish it today.
Tyler
You guys said I couldn't have it. Yep. So the funny thing about this. You can take it down. The funny. The funny thing about this whole thing is that liberals are saying leftists are saying your tax dollars are being used for this. Well, my tax dollars are also going to be used to study transgender teenagers. They don't care about that. My tax dollars are being wasted and other dumb. But they don't care about that. But they want me to feel bad. But when they care about it, it's. It's. It's protecting the president from the left. I'm sorry, Psychotics from the left. Am I wrong?
Mike
No, it's kind of like the whole. I guess it goes with the UFC fight too. Like something that like brought America together for a celebration. Was it maybe partially. Like Trump's birthday and all that? Yeah, but it still was an American event where UFC is one of the top sports. It brought people together. This is a ballroom. I guess it brings safety. So there's no assassination attempts. But anything they're gonna.
Tyler
They're gonna complain about it because it's Trump. Couldn't imagine being that guy right now. Dude.
Eric
It's gonna be some secret stuff in that ballroom. Secret getaway.
Tyler
I think there's definitely. Technology is going to be tested there. Technology in the beta phase. Technology that's never been. Security measures that have never been able to be built in place by something that is going to be a sick ballroom. I. Technologically speaking, they'll be able to
Eric
track the cocaine left in the back.
Mike
Yeah, the flock cameras are going to pump right into that ballroom.
Tyler
Oh yeah, dude. Every. Every intersection in D.C. will be on a computer.
Mike
Camera will be right in there for the deep state to watch.
Tyler
Mentally ill people won't be able to coordinate drone attacks because I guarantee that building is going to be built to withstand a lot of hits. I wonder if the White House sure has been slowly built reinforced throughout the years. Obviously they rebuilt it in 18.
Mike
Gotta be a hell of a basement.
Tyler
1812 was when they rebuilt the White House.
Eric
When the British even staying there. No way, right?
Mike
Very. I think very little.
Tyler
Very little what?
Mike
That he actually stays there.
Tyler
The White House.
Mike
I think they move around, man.
Eric
No way he could stay there.
Tyler
You think there's Trump doubles.
Mike
Oh, he's hard to duplicate.
Eric
You mean like tall Biden? I don't know.
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Tyler
All right, we're back. So let's hit it off. Old Rob Schneider, Fox News's favorite comedian. Real dude, I think. Cool dude.
Mike
Really cool dude.
Tyler
I would, I would venture to say that Rob Schneider's career was halted because of his political beliefs, but he's very outspoken, conservative, apparently a Christian. So let me pull this up real quick. Oh, no, that's on Instagram.
Mike
So you offered to pay for some things. Right.
Tyler
So what he did was obviously, you were probably going to know more about the situation as far as the MLB goes than me, but the Major League Baseball was doing the pride thing in June where a lot of their hats had rainbow, like the logo.
Mike
They all do it.
Eric
Yeah.
Tyler
A lot of players wanted to write, they're, they're doing it. They're a part of a team. I, I think that when you play sports at that level, just like you work at a police agency or you, you're part of a team that's bigger than you. If they make the call that they're going to do something like gay pride, and you, you can't be that guy that's like, oh, I ain't doing this. You know, it is, it's a career ender for you. They're never going to pick you over the, the agenda or whatever's, whatever we want to call that. But players were writing their favorite Bible verses on their hats. And so, but they were also going to be facing fines if they did that. And Rob Schneider came out, and I'm gonna pull it up right now. He said that he would pull, he would pay for all MLB players fines, whoever chose to do that, which is a lot of money. I don't know. It was a tweet. Here it is right here. I will pay the fines for any MLB Christian player who wears a Bible verse on their uniform. MLB is anti Christian. This was a tweet as Sports Illustrated posted the three Giants pitchers who wore Bible verse on the Pride Night kit before Friday night's game. And this is a picture of it. Again, one can be argued, hey, if it's just going to Be a fine and I can afford it and the league's not going to punish me. By all means, good move. Good move on you. But you start playing with that stuff. Look what happened to Villa Hueva for the Steelers maybe about 10 years ago.
Mike
Yeah, he's the only one that came
Tyler
out and stood by the Mike Tomlin said, we're not getting involved in this politics. This cat Kaepernick were staying in the locker room. It was his call. He wanted to focus on football. He didn't want to the cameras focusing on the guys trying to figure out if they were going to kneel or not. He wanted his players and I could almost respect that. He pulled his team in and said, we're gonna focus on football. That's what we're here for. And Villa Hueva, who was an A Ranger, an Army Ranger veteran, I think both, both theaters went out there by himself and stood like this. And he got, he got a lot of scrutiny from, from his players, his coaches, like public, like they were trashing him. And you're part of a team. That was the biggest argument was that you're part of a team.
Mike
I think somebody's going after MLB for violation of the religion, like the religious freedom. Really, because you have freedom of religion and by restricting.
Tyler
But who. Then you could write balls in your hat.
Mike
And I think, I think, I think you can put that down as like detrimental to society and not writing in
Tyler
silver Sharpie on your hat in those words. You could say that like I'm a bit. See, here's the thing is I.
Mike
Because we. There's censorship already on networks. You can't say those words on regular network tv, which is where.
Tyler
What if he wrote pencil on his hat like that?
Mike
That's what I'm saying. He's gonna, he knows he's going to be on tv and there's restrictions through the FF or like broadcasting restrictions on certain words and phrases that won't be put up there. Religion is not one of them. It doesn't. So it, it's.
Tyler
But you can't just alter the uniform. You're part of a team. You can't just write on your hat.
Mike
I, I understand. I know. I go. I get what you're saying. But I'm saying that they're. They're making the guys wear something they also don't agree with. So, like, I get it. You're paid athlete. You kind of have to conform. But do you. Because freedom of religion is a very big one that you, you have the freedom of religion. If I want to put that. We put all those other words on fields and all those other things in the NFL on helmets and all that stuff. And it seems odd that you would pick one like that. It's like, no, you can't put religious quotes on your.
Tyler
I remember, I like what you said. Get a neck tattoo. They can't tell you. Get one right on your neck. Dude, that's pretty cool.
Eric
I was gonna say when we got take home cars in the beginning, guys started doing little like, like love the Bears or whatever, a little trim around the tag or a little something. And it didn't last long before, you know, that guy's got a Steeler sticker on his car. They just always.
Mike
Somebody's just always messing. When you control. See, that's the government. So there's a little. To me, there's a little difference with the government in that case. But in this, I mean, you know,
Tyler
look up, look up the. The five police officers that were killed in Dallas in 2016. I cannot remember if it was the NFL or if it was the Cowboys who had the problem with it. That was right in the time when they were. The NFL was promoting black men killed by police, whether or not they were involved in criminal behavior and shot by the police. They, they had a big campaign where black men were killed by police and
Eric
they were wearing Ferguson in 2015. And then you kind of had the other.
Mike
Yeah, but there was the bad one in Dallas and I know there was. There was an issue with Louisiana. Had a few kills. They wanted players honoring them.
Tyler
Players wanted to wear the cops names on their uniform. And either the NFL said no or the Dallas franchise said no. I can't remember. Did you find it? All right, don't worry about it. It's not that big of a deal. I want you to focus on camera work more than anything.
Mike
But I can look at that up if you want.
Tyler
Yeah, let Mike look that up. But yeah, they weren't allowed to because they were wearing the names of say his name. That was the campaign. And if you researched a lot of those people, unfortunately they were killed in gunfire incidents by the police because they were committing violent crimes or shooting at the police themselves.
Mike
And NFL, as soon as it loads, NFL just denies request to wear arm in arm decal to honor sling cops. Dallas players did it. Jason Whitten led paid notable tribute at the start of training camp to police officers who were killed in the July shooting in Dallas. But the NFL said that the Dallas Cowboys could not wear. So it was the. The NFL.
Tyler
The NFL said no. Yeah.
Mike
Dallas Cowboys, led by Jason went and pay notable tribute to the start of training camp to police officers who were killed in July. And downtown players, coaches and executives came out to start a training camp. They were. They wore this thing and they wanted to do it during the season and the NFL shut it down. So the NFL refused to let the Cowboys honor the cops.
Tyler
Man. Yeah. And I could see during that. It's political. I don't think the NFL admin or stakeholders or anybody cared about a black man being gunned down by the police. It was all that. It was that big and that leftist, anti law enforcement political agenda. The NFL is working at going global. They're the biggest. They are the most. They were the most grossing sport I think ever in the world. Even more than soccer in any other country. The NFL. And so they're working on. On global takeover. That's why they're playing in all these other countries.
Mike
But if you look at sports interviews, it happens in ufc, if you watched it the other night, basketball. I think about even most guys, when they start an interview, thank God the first thing they say, they win a UFC fight, they win the championship. I want to stop and pause. Thank you to my Lord and savior. So you have a lot of sports players that say that anyway. So that's where I look at the. Or the mlb. Like why would you stop a guy from doing that? And you're already in. I get like there's two sides. The rule side of me goes, they own the team. They own the stadium. They own you. You signed up. I get it. But you're. Then you're making me wear something.
Tyler
I don't agree with the gay stuff.
Mike
Yes. So if I don't agree with that or I think a lot of people have the same stance that I do. It's. I don't care what you do. I don't. I'm not anti. You do whatever you want. But when you have, when you start to make people do or, or have to show off what you're into, that's like saying you have to be a Mets fan this week. Because I'm a Mets fan and I need you. You're my friend and I'm, you know.
Tyler
Well, let's look at it like this. Let's look at it like we had keto, you worked for us and you know, we paid your salary and we're like, hey, we're, we're. We're promoting something that you don't agree with ethically.
Mike
Our new ice cream brand.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
And we're.
Tyler
And we're and we're lying to people saying it's healthy. And you're like, dude, I can't. And we're like, we force you to do it. Like, hey, it's either. And it's like, it's an ethical thing. You're like, I'm not going to tell people this. Healthy can't be part of that.
Eric
Yes.
Mike
And that's to me is the same
Tyler
thing as we were paying you millions and you might be like, eat your Doritos.
Eric
Like shop with a cop. Like, you gotta go shop with this hood rat. I don't want to
Mike
any of any of those pro. That's a great topic because every time I cook somebody in a story making some silly video, I get this message, hey, dog, He. He's a really good dude, man. He just got forced by admin into Diddy. Was his promotion. Was. Whatever. Was it that worth it to go make some absolutely ridiculously cringe tick tock? Because that's what I'm saying.
Tyler
I got out of every.
Mike
But I get guys all the time that go, hey, you cook my bro, man. He's a really good dude. He had. I'm like, they're like, no, he could. I'm like, no, he could have. You could end up like, you'll be in a office like I was for not supporting the sheriff, but you can
Tyler
say no, say no.
Mike
But they get into this mindset and that leads me to the next thing. Do I want that guy as a supervisor? If he's willing to go, I'm gonna do something I completely disagree with to stay on this promotional list and stay in good graces so I get promoted. And it's like, but you don't agree with dancing and all that stuff. That. But, yeah, but, but I need, I really need to get up there. So I get a lot of those messages. I'm like, I don't know, is he. He's allowed to say no.
Tyler
I said the same thing about people that are fat and they want to blame thyroid or blame all this stuff. I'm like, you could just not eat. And they go, what? I'm like, hey, I'm telling you, it's dangerous. You could literally just stop eating calories and you'll lose weight. Well, I can't do that, my dog. Okay, by all means, don't do anything that I say. I'm just saying that it is possible.
Mike
That's the same argument I have with cops when I say, you know, you can go to the gym.
Tyler
I'll lose my job.
Mike
Or you can go to Jiu Jitsu and train.
Tyler
And you.
Mike
No, I gotta go to my kids soccer game. And I got. I, I get that's important too, but your kids soccer game.
Tyler
Anti family.
Mike
No, I'm very. No, I'm so pro family that I want to make sure you're as healthy and safe as possible. This when you leave at 6am and you say to your buddies and your wife, I gotta come home to my family, brother. Well, then I need you to not be a fat dude rolling around the front yard away from a dog. And that can actually get away or defend you.
Tyler
Need you to shoot the dog.
Mike
No, I don't need you to shoot a dog. But what I need you to do is I care so much about you that I want you to be in great shape so that you don't have a heart attack or die in the middle of a fight.
Eric
So that's why vending machines are gone. We got beef sticks coming in.
Mike
We got, we're cooking.
Tyler
Well, I can't say that hibachi chef in there.
Mike
My agency already had that. They like a waffle maker every morning in the db. I tried to have a briefing one morning for like a critical incident. I went to go into the room, they're like, sorry, we're doing omelets and stuff this morning.
Tyler
I'm like, yeah, when that takes over precedence. My bad.
Mike
I mean, I was gonna have a briefing for a wanted subject.
Tyler
It's also start starting your day at 10:30 in the morning.
Mike
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tyler
It's not 6.
Mike
I'm like, damn, dude. He just got here and he's an hour and a half late. Now he's at breakfast and he's gonna go to lunch. That's everybody who's getting this car. The current administration of the sheriff's office.
Eric
Yeah.
Mike
And they wear these really cool fishing shirts. None of them fish and none of them are in the Ag Marine unit. But they wear these like really thin, light. They're already not wearing vests and they're not wearing any gear. And on top of it they wear these little things.
Tyler
Can I get that shirt?
Mike
Yeah.
Tyler
This is meant for the marine.
Mike
That is like the, that is the, the, the, the slack off unit. Like they, when they get to the fishing shirt status as a detective, I'm like, so you didn't plan on doing any work today because you didn't bring your gear, you didn't bring your vest, you didn't bring a full size gun and now you're wearing like a fishing shirt. I'm like, how did we get to detectives wearing fishing shirts? Like, do you know what I'm talking? The mesh underneath the armpits and stuff. Like, bro, you're 300 pounds. Maybe those sweat, by wearing a regular uniform might help you lose a little weight, but it's like a sweatsuit. And that, to me. That to me, breathes incompetence and unprofessionalism and leads to poor leadership. If you show up to work and you're altering your uniform, they're not allowed. They're not allowed to wear the uniform. They just start doing it, and everybody starts doing it. And if you have an agency that
Tyler
has that lack, like Eric said, somebody's gonna ruin it.
Mike
Yeah, but just think about it. When you get to a point that an entire agency is wearing the wrong uniform or whatever they want, you've lost all uniformity. You've lost all standards. How can you expect it to look? Leadership is good when the lieutenants and sergeants walk around fishing gear.
Tyler
All right, let me play the rest of this Rob Snyder stuff. It just. You got to follow the money. It's. It's where they end. It's where the sports are getting their
Mike
money, and who's going to complain the loudest?
Tyler
But I think this time MLB screwed up. I mean, mlb, remember, they didn't find anybody for taking a knee. Remember that? So for Black Lives Matter, it's fine. But for Christians, standing up for their,
Mike
you know, deeply held religious beliefs is not okay. So I think people.
Tyler
I think Americans are sick of this.
Mike
And, you know, I'm tired of, like,
Tyler
Chris Christianity being the doormat for everybody else's beliefs to be stepped on us. And it's like, listen, I'm not against,
Mike
you know, gay pride, gay rights, but
Tyler
shoving it in your face, it's like, enough.
Mike
You have to do this.
Tyler
Otherwise you're a bigot. And look, I don't have to do anything.
Mike
It doesn't make me a bigot.
Tyler
I mean, just like, I think it's about these people's beliefs have to be respected. It's like, you can't make somebody bake something that they don't want to bake, whether it's a cake for a gay wedding.
Eric
That's their.
Tyler
That's their particular right. The Supreme Court already won that.
Mike
So I think Major League Baseball is
Tyler
in jeopardy here legally.
Mike
And I think that's.
Tyler
This is against the. Their First Amendment rights for sure.
Eric
And it's a.
Mike
Definitely.
Tyler
It's against the civil. I forgot about that cake bacon thing.
Mike
They just. Supreme Court Ruled in favor of that. They don't have to do it. Imagine that. You have to do this.
Tyler
Yeah, well, it's just. It's a business, so you can literally. Your private business. I can be like, I don't like dudes in red shirts. Get out. But I guess if they can build a case that you're being discriminatory, you
Mike
have to be protected. Like a protected cloud. You're discriminating.
Tyler
But then the Supreme Court said it's a religious belief that we're not going to cook for gays.
Mike
Correct.
Tyler
Got it.
Mike
I mean, the president. There's people that say, if you wear a MAGA hat or you wear. You support the President, don't come in our business.
Tyler
They're allowed all over.
Mike
Yeah, they're Beat you up.
Tyler
I used to tell the story all the time. We. We were in D.C. for Police Week in like 2000, in 17 or 18. And we stayed because we're. And we stayed in a gentrified, like, not so much gentrified, but a liberal area of Washington, D.C. pride flags. Oh, okay.
Mike
What other parts are there?
Tyler
Maybe that's just all DC Pride flags. Up and down the street on the polls, and we go into a restaurant and it's like 11 o' clock in the morning on the weekday. It's during Police Week. We just wanted to get some food in this before we went to Tent City. And she walks. We had our bat, our lanyards out, our badges out and street clothes. That's what you do at Police. Everybody does it. Have you ever been to Police?
Mike
I can't believe you went.
Tyler
Have you ever been? Nope. No, of course you haven't.
Mike
No, I know you did.
Tyler
Weren't you dunking on Police Week?
Mike
You probably had your pride flag on too, right?
Tyler
No, we had our badges on. It's important for the story, so I'll take the heat. Okay. And we walk in and she walks up to us and goes, oh, I'm sorry, we're full. And I look around, I'm like, the restaurant's empty. And she goes, we're full. And it's because we're cops. And I was like, that's what it feels like to be discriminated again. No, she didn't think I was gay for wearing my.
Mike
No, she. She said you were full because you were walking around your badge out in the middle. That's what everybody does.
Tyler
Exactly.
Mike
Yep. Everybody. Everybody conforms. It's like everybody.
Tyler
Is Sheriff Dilks gonna allow his guys to go to Police Week and wear their badges?
Mike
They're Gonna wear their vests and their full uniform if they're gonna go walk around with a gun in public.
Tyler
I didn't wear my gun in public.
Mike
Okay, you wore your badge. Everybody know your cop. Yeah, but you don't wear your.
Eric
Anyway, I bet Sheriff Dilks would go. One of his officers is honored up there.
Tyler
He said, there you go. He's on the Internet saying, only or only go to Police Week.
Mike
I'll pull it up. You got. You gotta take the context. My context of that is is remembers. I, I, I believe that going and drinking your face off and being, like, in a frat party to then spin it that you're there to honor somebody is a little different than actually going and honoring them. That's. That's what I said.
Eric
Wow.
Tyler
I remember Reagan was like, I remember.
Mike
I remember the whole reel.
Tyler
He was, cut it.
Mike
You cut it real good.
Tyler
Oh, cool. Taser, bro. Yeah. Is that what cops do at Police League?
Mike
I just look at it. Kind of like, it goes to me with your. Your service dog thing when you're up there saying, look at me. And then you're doing shots and body shots in the middle of a bar in D.C. in honor. Now, if you're military, where you guys went overseas, I know that's kind of a military tradition to go get. Cops have no fun.
Tyler
Professionalism vest all the time.
Mike
No, they don't. That they exploit. Don't get me started. Because the people I'm targeting, like Haley Mirabelli, go up there and exploit their dead friends and use it to make money. But then you're. You're mixed in with.
Tyler
You go to Kelly's Irish Pub, you're meeting cops from all around the world. You're. You're having a good time. You just mourn the dead. What?
Mike
Yeah, they're talking about that. They're just getting hammered and they're passing STDs around. There is a legitimate point of police
Tyler
to honor, I guess, the fallen story.
Mike
The honor the fallen. I agree with that. To go up there professionally, no fun will be had before 911 week. 911 before 9 11's memorial. Every year, do we all go up there and get hammered and have sex with each other and walk around like that? No, you to the 911 memorial, you, Honor. That day.
Tyler
Sex come into play.
Mike
That's all they do. Dude, you ever been to a police? It was all dudes. No, there's not all dudes. There was all dudes. Come on. Come on.
Tyler
Are you gonna take me to police?
Mike
Come on. Come on. Let's go. No, I'm not. I'm just saying I've watched. I guess I shouldn't say everybody, but I watch some of the influencers that go up there and exploit it.
Tyler
It makes to me.
Mike
It takes away from it.
Tyler
Mike, do influencers represent all life law enforcement?
Mike
No, but.
Tyler
Okay, thank you.
Mike
Majority of them.
Eric
I will say when I went, it was an emotional. It was an emotional thing that really.
Tyler
Check the mic levels. It's the micro levels. The system does that. Go ahead.
Eric
I was gonna say it was an emotional time for me to be out there with my family. We were honored. So it was like we're part of some of the ceremonies. And I couldn't wait to get out of there because like Mike was saying, I was feeling the effects of it. And for me to go out and party, for me, I was looking to get out, but I wouldn't say. If I went back with you and we were all hanging, I wouldn't, you know, hey, have a good time.
Mike
We lost. I lost somebody who last police. This police week was the first year she was gone. I could see where I would go up maybe and I don't know that I'd want to go party and drink and. And that kind of thing.
Tyler
You've got to think most cops have not lost a part. And why are they there to honor. They're showing.
Mike
Breaking a bar in honor.
Tyler
That's what I'm getting. Mike, you had a friend of 25 years that was killed in line of duty recently. I don't think anybody would expect you to go get hammered.
Mike
No, but what.
Tyler
But I've never lost a friend in the line of duty. I've never lost.
Mike
What honor are you? This is. And this is a honest question.
Tyler
Showing up first off, what does it do for the person?
Mike
What does it do for the person who's dead?
Tyler
It's showing up. It's their families that get off buses. When you're standing there melting in uniform,
Mike
we're talking about drinking in bars at Kelly's Irish.
Tyler
So you're not allowed to go have a drink at a bar when you go spend eight hours in uniform scam God.
Mike
Who makes the money? The bars locally.
Tyler
Where's Kenny at? He always comments on this stuff. And now I don't have anybody.
Mike
I'm looking at like real honor of something is like I get the ceremony, the. The whole thing like the. The horns and the bag plates and the wall. That to me is like, that's important to honor cops coming from all over the world who have just to drink for a week. I just. I don't know. Maybe I'm.
Tyler
I guess I'm great camaraderie. It's great.
Mike
Being around cops is awesome. Let me go. Let me go do it. Yeah.
Tyler
Or you love them.
Mike
You love them so much.
Tyler
The sheriff just said that.
Mike
Yeah.
Tyler
I'm gonna clip that out.
Mike
Cops go.
Tyler
I'm gonna make like an anti. Hi. Dilks for sure. Everything out of context. Let the dog bite you.
Mike
I don't want to hang out with. Here's what else they do. Here's what else they do. People weasel just like they wear the fishing shirts they weasel themselves to. To honor the fallen in D.C. to go drink. Come on, dude.
Eric
Come on.
Mike
Come on. You know what's going on, Chief? I really want to go to Police Week. I really care if you really.
Eric
I don't want.
Tyler
I don't want anybody to pay my.
Mike
Stop helping cops. Stop ending up stopping not being fit. Stop not shooting. Stop not training so you don't end up in Police Week because you got murked on a call. That would be more important.
Tyler
JJ Info commercial. You can't go have any fun. You have to go train pjj. That's how you honor go drink.
Mike
Go drink and get drunk and have sex with other cops in D.C. that'll sex thing. Because I'm telling you what? You're not. For some reason. Your algorithm. Have you ever been. No. I've watched videos of it.
Tyler
Of people having sex? Yeah.
Mike
No. I watched female cops go wearing tight pants leggings automatically. Haley Mirabelli. I have references Haley and. And Sergeant Kiba from. From Miami. This is okay. I've been to regular narcotics conferences where everybody bangs each other. I know what goes on at police conferences. Now you're just amplifying at times the whole nation.
Eric
What happens there stays there.
Mike
No, a lot of it doesn't.
Eric
I know this. I know the real.
Mike
I know the real stories.
Tyler
I'm reading comments. You're good.
Mike
Yeah. Camaraderie is the same as. Camaraderie is the same thing authors use for like. What is. What is another term. I was in great fear.
Tyler
I'm never gonna work for you. No fun will be had at this agency.
Mike
Oh, God. You guys are.
Tyler
Camaraderie. Camaraderie.
Mike
Drinking in a bar, out of control, dressed scandally with other female.
Eric
Why did.
Tyler
Why do you keep taking it to these extremes? You're going to have beers with cops around the world. Out of control sex everywhere.
Eric
Dominic's gonna call in now.
Mike
I know you know how to Talk about that. I'll just leave it at that. What you. But you probably can't talk about what happened when you were there.
Tyler
I was married at the time. I had my ex wife.
Mike
I get it. I get it. And then Mary Cop wouldn't do anything away.
Eric
Right?
Tyler
I didn't see anything.
Mike
But, dude, you did it in the bar. Do you know what? Do you know the Olympics is known for the Olympics? When you put all those athletes together. STD sex. They have to put condom machines. And when all these human beings get together at these things.
Eric
Olympic babies.
Tyler
Like.
Mike
Yes.
Tyler
Like athletes.
Mike
Yep.
Tyler
From Africa.
Mike
Oh, no. Africa.
Tyler
Everybody will come from all kinds. Yes.
Mike
All the people get together. And they had to stop putting beds in the rooms. Like, they literally had to stop because of the humans together. So what I'm getting at is I've watched females and people exploit Police Week to go do. Look at me, look at me.
Tyler
Look. Is.
Mike
Is some of it great? Yes. I don't think camaraderie is important, but is it? I don't know. I don't know.
Tyler
You got one. You got one Supporter. Agreed. Go Honor and leave. Not a drink fest. Fire department do better.
Eric
It's commercialized.
Tyler
Oh, it's completely.
Mike
Vendors. Vendors selling gear. Like, come on, dude.
Tyler
I know.
Mike
That's my point. I guess the sex is the most.
Tyler
I went.
Mike
I think that I've been hitting hard because I watch these girls do it and then claim to be great. And they write books for what you should do before the academy. And they walk around police week in leggings, a gun on their hip and badge. And I'm like, how. What is that honoring? Like, I get like, you are taking
Tyler
one chick's Instagram and creating an entire opinion about police.
Mike
She went around and interviewed like 30, 40 male cops.
Tyler
One chick.
Mike
But she went around and interviewed many.
Tyler
Who cares? It's one chick Now.
Mike
Female cops aren't okay.
Tyler
I didn't say that.
Mike
But that's like, okay, Tyler. I've been to foa. I've been to fnoa. I've been to ntoa. I've been to narcotics conferences. I've been to police conferences. I know it goes on. I wasn't a church boy. I know it goes on. Now you have it at a national.
Tyler
I did it as a vendor. I didn't go as. I've done it because I'm not a dork.
Mike
I've done it.
Tyler
Going to Cop Fest.
Mike
I got to meet.
Tyler
Teach me your tactics.
Mike
I got to meet Mike Durant at one of them.
Tyler
Did you Leave him behind. No.
Eric
Well, you have conference buddies too, where you meet the same people at different events.
Mike
Really? You know, people coordinate that.
Eric
Yeah, and it's covered by training too.
Mike
I'm never gonna. I'm never gonna get square Kenny on my side.
Eric
So people coordinate the way.
Mike
I'm using the one female. You're using the square. You're using the squares. Kenny would march the police week to talk about camaraderie. He would march. Oh, stop it.
Tyler
You're the biggest cop.
Mike
You're the biggest cop hater on earth. You hate everything about cops. And now you're gonna go.
Tyler
This guy just sat here and told me he went to every single training as a cop. I'm thinking, what a nerd.
Mike
Training.
Tyler
Who does that? I went to Otoa. I went there to make money. I went there to sell.
Mike
No, I went there because it was a free. And we all went to drink the same thing they're doing there. The ceremony is amazing. Honor the fallen. Make sure you train so you don't end up the fallen. And that's very important. Just like Memorial day, Veterans Day 911 memorial is very important.
Tyler
We have super chat showed. Tyler, check what I sent your phone. I'm scared you Shauna. It's a picture of a. It's a. Who's the Lord of the Rings? Gandalf.
Mike
I don't watch it. I don't even know who that is.
Tyler
He goes, you shall not pass. But it's you. It says you shall not have fun.
Mike
I'm all about having fun.
Tyler
You're smiling in the picture though.
Mike
I'm all about having fun.
Tyler
If I could get it up here fast enough, I would. But by the time I get it up in the email and everything, it'll be long gone. But that is pretty funny, Chad. I'll put it in the stories. Have you seen Chodes? He decided for professional reasons to not be on camera. But he's on camera. He took the time to 3D make himself a donut. He is a talking donut now. Much like a piece of chicken or watermelon.
Mike
Is he allowed to be.
Tyler
He can be a donut.
Mike
Is that infringe on anybody else's donut?
Tyler
Well, he was black faced donut the other day.
Mike
Oh boy.
Tyler
He went. He's got different frostings he can pick from. But apparently you would think with AI making yourself into a. A piece of food would be pretty easy. Apparently it is not. But when he. So it's his eyes in his mouth and then when he moves up and down the donut moves too. It's the crazy thing.
Mike
He's an amateur then. Because Jay just made a video of me that's the most realistic looking thing ever. Where it's like an intro he's trying to make. And he sent it to me and I'm like, other than I'm driving like a dummy. I'm like, it looks pretty good.
Tyler
So for your campaign.
Mike
No, campaign's over with you.
Tyler
Are you driving with a loudspeaker telling everybody no fun. All right, the last thing we have to cover before we get into just keto carnivore talk. Chat talk is mystical, you guys. Do you guys remember that show? And this isn't a big topic. I just sometimes I look for entertainment news and anybody my age is gonna go, who the is mystical? And he had that song, shake your ass. Oh, no, shake it fast was shake it fast. The edited version probably shake it fast.
Mike
Watch yourself.
Tyler
Yeah,
Mike
they play that police week a lot.
Tyler
2002.
Eric
Oh, wow.
Tyler
So he's got a very extensive history of sexual charges in prison time and jail time, but rapper gets 20 years in a rape case. The victim in the case described him brutally sexually assaulted her in a Louisiana home in 2022. She asked a judge to levy the maximum sex sentence. The rapper was originally arrested back in 2022 and entered a guilty. Entered a guilty plea to third degree rape in Louisiana courtroom under a deal with the prosecutors. After the victim told mystical told the court, Mystical choked her, punched her and forcibly raped her. He stood up and said, if I did that to you, I deserve the maximum sentence. Oh, that is a psychopath.
Mike
You don't want to say that to the judge.
Tyler
Yeah, well, I think he's trying to prove his innocence. Like, oh, if I did that to you, then. And the judge is like, okay, I mean, maybe that you can't do that after a guilty plea. If you have. You have a guilty, then you're guilty in the eyes of law. So third degree rape, that must be a Louisiana.
Eric
Yeah, right.
Tyler
I think they did some state like
Mike
New York has, like, she's over 12.
Tyler
Yes. It was only third degree. Yeah.
Mike
Louisiana is rough for that. They're one of the lowest, I think one of the lowest consent states. And they still drank at 18. They were the last state to go back to 21. They're pretty wild.
Tyler
I forget other states have that consent law, which is super. That was my. The thing I hated most about a street cop is my 15 year old daughter had sex with her 16 year old boyfriend. Like, because it's a Big deal. Even though they've been dating since 13 and 14, it's two years later and they, yes, they did have sex, which is very wrong. But it's going to be looked at like a rape first and then broken down into, you know, I hated that
Eric
that takes your whole night.
Mike
I had a guess. I had one. As a detective, I felt terrible. Like it was that scenario and it was like. And I'm just like the mom of the daughter they were dating. Everything was fine. And then when the dude broke up with her and he made the report, I remember writing it to the state and I'm like, hey man, this is it. I'm thinking maybe they'll, you know, they drop every other case. I'm thinking this was all consensuals, nothing. And when I saw the warrant come out for the guy, I was like, oh, God. Like, this is just.
Tyler
You ever. Did you. Did you ever hear what happened?
Mike
He got in trouble. He got me to prison.
Tyler
Ah, so he's labeled.
Mike
Yeah, no, I don't think because of the. It wasn't, it wasn't sex offender status. He was still. I think he. But he got time and it was like, like, mom's okay with it, Mom's okay with it. Years, two years. And then he breaks up with her and it's like, oh, by the way, they're, you know, 16 and 15 or whatever it was.
Eric
And I'm like, 16 year old girl thing, you know, the lesbian relationship. And I was like, is this like, what crime? What's going on here? They say they're friends when the parents are, you know. And you're like, how do I file
Tyler
this report is it's a crime in God's eyes.
Mike
Yeah, some of those just don't write
Eric
it on your head, you know.
Mike
And in today's world of technology, I think this is where maybe the statute hasn't kept up with. There is zero defense for a man based on told age or what they. How old? They say they're a man at this point. If a man. If you're not checking IDs at this point as a guy, and even then you can still be guilty, you're nuts. But these Snapchat, they. Where they meet just randomly, they don't know each other, they just pop on a cloud and they're. And the girl says, oh yeah, I'm, you know, I'm 16, I'm 17, I'm whatever she is. And she says it and she ends up being 14.
Tyler
You're done on you.
Mike
You're done. Yeah, there's nothing you can do. You could be the most squared away kid, whatever, did nothing wrong.
Eric
Get those dudes showing up.
Mike
Yeah. You're like, wait, she was at the bar last week. She's got. She's got. In a bar. And it's like, sorry, she's 16. She's got a fake ID. Yeah, it's your fault. And that to me, is over compensating for the real predators out there that maybe we know some. Some real predators out there that maybe get away with things and that kind of over compensates guys where we just go, it's indefensible for everybody. And that. I've had some cases like that where you're just like, man, this kid is hosed hoes. Based on six months of time and age.
Eric
Where.
Mike
Or she said this, and it's not like, yeah, she walks by, she's 3ft tall, and she said she was 20. Like, I get it. Like, you're not going to use that defense. But when you got a girl, fully developed female, that is looking and walking around clubs, getting in bars at 18, whatever. Think looking like she's 18. Lies, fake ID, whatever.
Eric
And then we need a join IP app. You can verify everybody.
Mike
Yeah, dispatch, that's it. Obviously alters the rest of your life forever. There should be a way, like, hey, you. I mean, like these kids meeting on apps and trusting people.
Tyler
No, I just think of a civilian calling 911.
Mike
Like, hey, can you run this deal real quick? This chick says she's 20, she says she's 20.
Tyler
I don't know.
Mike
Yeah, I need you to come out. We call them VIN verifications. Chick verification.
Tyler
Can you.
Mike
You rapid ID this chick right here? Let me know. You know, try to play a safe. Officer, is she gonna steal anything and is she 21?
Tyler
Like, after the victim told the court Mystical choked her. He said, if I did that to you, give me the maximum sentence. My mouse ran out of battery, so I'm going with the old mouse pad right now. Maximum set was 25 years. He's going away for two decades. Prior to this case, Mystical was convicted of sexual battery. In the infirm of June 2003. Been incarcerated for seven years until his release from prison in 2010. After leaving that prison on case, Mystical was a registered lifetime sex offender. So what was he doing from his release in prison? Was he doing more live performances? Like, how do you get back into the game when you're gone for a decade in prison? You have a horrible charge on your record, You're a legal sex offender. And the entertainment industry is like, yeah, go on tour. Go on tour. Like, I always wonder, like, what happens to people. And he clearly didn't learn do. He didn't. He did several years for a sexual battery. Prison did nothing for him. That's insane to me, dude. That is insane. Clint says he was in the army, but that has to be a pre 911 type thing because he didn't blow up till 2002 and he immediately went to prison. He got out. So you're not going to the army after you got out of prison. Are you a mystical fan?
Eric
I was, man. I know too. I might have jammed a little bit of that in my police car. You know, one of those line cars that I'm Boyd.
Tyler
But yeah, that's mystical.
Mike
Trying to find this other clip. Hold on.
Tyler
I came prepared with all my stuff.
Eric
I was a two life guy.
Mike
This was, this was. This is in relation to what you're talking about.
Tyler
Know, but okay, I can't find it. What is it?
Mike
There's a. There's a viral clip where the guy killed his. Murdered his baby. And he goes to trial and loses, but maintains his innocence. So the judge says to him, it's like in a southern courtroom.
Tyler
He loses.
Mike
He loses. Guilty.
Tyler
Okay.
Mike
So the judge says, well, sir, he's like, what do you think the person who did this crime should get? And he rattles it off. Oh, the person who did this crime should get life in prison, should never get out. He goes on and on. He goes, okay, as the count one, you're guilty of murder. I sent you to life. So he's like trying to act like he didn't do it. The same statement like, I didn't do it. I didn't do it the whole time. Maintains his innocence. He's like the person that. There's a person out there that you guys didn't catch and he was already convicted by the jury. So the judge says, well, sir, why don't you tell me what the person who did. Actually did this crime should get? He confident. Well, the person who really did it should get this. And the judge says, good, you're the person who did it. And he sent him.
Tyler
Did he cry? How can you kill a baby, dude?
Mike
Oh, he's a horrible. I'm trying to find it, but there's that other dude with the tattoos all over his face. It's like really crazy.
Tyler
As he goes, he's lecturing the jury.
Mike
Yeah, so this one, I see it on Instagram all the time and I can't find it now. Because it's tough to Google it. But yeah, that. That. That was like the ultimate smack in the face where this guy's trying to say he didn't do it, but he's found guilty already by the jury. So he goes, okay, if you, you know, just tell me what the person who did do it should get. Because that's a good. That's a really good interview tactic when you're interviewing somebody. That was one of our.
Tyler
What would an innocent person say in that scenario?
Mike
They would want the person to get the max. So if you said, like, hey, man, what do you think? The person. If the person who did this, what do you think?
Tyler
But if I didn't do it, you
Mike
might be like, well, you know, sometimes there's, you know, we make mistakes, you know. Yeah, it's the same as if I asked if you always watch these police interviews, 99 of the people you see it being interviewed or guilty. Now, let me preface that with, there was a horrific time in our nation where innocent people were being set up and put in prison that didn't commit the crimes because they found the closest guy that fit a certain description and put them in jail. And then they got like 90 years, and then 30 years later got out innocent. But when you watch an interview on any of these Netflix documentaries, can you imagine right now if the police walked in, they drug you out, and they put you in a box for murder, and they were like, hey, man, we think you could. You would be off your rocker. You'd be like, bro, give me the. Like, I don't know what you're talking, but you see, guys go, we. We believe you killed.
Tyler
You do? Wow.
Mike
Like, why'd you think that? Like. Like, to me, you watch it. And some of the things I've seen in my experience is that if you were literally in a position where you did not do anything wrong, there's 0% chance you're going to sit there and entertain even a conversation about like, hey, bro, call the lawyer, bondman, book me.
Tyler
I don't give a. What you think.
Mike
The problem is, is a criminal wants to know what you know. So they engage in the back and forth to the point when you finally corner them, and you're like, all evidence shows you killed him. I want a lawyer. And it's like that moment where I remember one of my. One of my cases where a young man was executed in the back of the head over weed, unfortunately. But I backed the dude in. Oh, I never picked him up. Well, we got video of your car picking him up. Oh, I did pick him up. Oh, I didn't go to Fellsmere. Well, I got video of your car in Felsmere. I didn't. I dropped him off. Well, I got video of you actually parked. I want a lawyer. It was like, I got him all the way to the scene where the kid was killed in the woods. And when I got to the point where he couldn't answer any more questions with some and he knew I knew. That's when they lure up. So if you watch a lot of those documentaries, you'll see, like, why would you sit and talk to the police? Yeah, why would you sit and talk to the police about something you know you didn't do?
Tyler
I also think, but I mean, it's a dangerous game to talk to the police when you didn't do anything. Sometimes I, I.
Mike
This is you Anti cop. I thought you went to the the weekly drug fest up in D.C. cops are great.
Tyler
You did.
Mike
Cops are great.
Tyler
Are Great.
Mike
You don't trust cops. We just go drink at bars together.
Tyler
I'm like, if they said. If they said so and so was found dead. And I was like, I'd be like, yeah, probably a lot of people wanted him dead. And they go, well, you're a prime suspect. I think at that point I'd be like, well, I need to get a lawyer.
Mike
Yes, you should.
Tyler
Like, even if I didn't do it, I'm like, oh, damn.
Mike
Like, that to me makes you look more innocent. Because most criminals, if it's not cut and dry, you will want to know what the police know. There's a great. Another vile video. A dude that kills his neighbor. And he's standing there and he's actually doing a news interview do. And he doesn't know the body's found yet. You ever seen. He's got like, frizzy black hair and they're like, yeah. They're like. He's like, yeah, it's crazy that it happened here in the neighborhood. And they're like, yeah. And then they just found her body. And he's just stops and she's like, sir. And he's like, oops. And he starts just melting on national TV because he killed her. So it's like at that moment, he's like, I didn't hide the body good enough. And they found her. And he's like, oh, God, I didn't plan for this. So you can watch his entire demeanor change when they've tell them that. That's the same thing with, like, when you're interviewing somebody. It most Criminals want to know what you know so they can dance around that story. Does he know I went to the bar? Yeah, we got video of it. The bar. He knows it with the bar. Oh, I didn't. I went somewhere else. Well, now we know you didn't. That's how it usually goes down. And if you watch those documentaries, you can kind of pick out right away, like, that's the one who did it. Based on. I wouldn't want to know much about the case if you came right now and said, hey, this dude's dead. Down at the corner of the store. We, we saw you walk by and back you. I went to the mailbox. You killed him. I'll be like, I didn't kill him. And I don't want to know the details because I, I have nothing to do with it. Like, I would, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to sit there. Yeah. Like, well, I went to the dumpster and then I did. And how, how was he dead? Where did you find him? Like, you know, I wouldn't care. I don't want to know nothing about. I had nothing to do with it. I don't need to talk to you. I want a lawyer. Arrest me, take me to jail. And that is, that's how I would handle it. I'd be like, hey, bro, like, I don't want to know anything about it. It's got nothing to do with me. But when you see somebody that's interested in wanting to know details about a crime that usually shows they're guilty, they
Tyler
usually end up in the comments section.
Eric
Yes.
Mike
Yeah. And I say that never, you know, and people say, oh, you're okay. You know, you want to be sure. You don't talk to the police, but you, you do have to be careful because, you know, some things you may say lead them to. Down the road further. This is a suspect. If you don't know enough to know that I'm not or am or not a suspect. And where it really applies is your st. If you end up in a standing ground situation, if you haven't happened to shoot somebody in like a road rage and you get cornered or you get. I would immediately get a lawyer.
Tyler
Yeah, yeah.
Mike
I mean, that's just common. Like, you might say things that just out of, you know, just like a cop. What does a cop not do when you get in a critical incident? Shoot somebody. You don't get interviewed immediately.
Tyler
No.
Mike
You go get your four or five days. You. So that's any citizen you don't want to. You may have obviously justifiably used deadly force to save yourself. You may try to out explain it or over explain it or make yourself look guilty by your explanation because it just happened. So you're going to want time. So I would say, hey, man, take your time. Take your time.
Eric
Yeah, my shooting, I was talking like a bird in the ambulance. Ambulance. And the rep who was with me was like, dude, yeah, yeah, stop. And I'm like, yeah. But I thought he was empty. And I kept shooting.
Mike
He's like, shit, yeah, just imagine. Imagine if you're. If you're. If your PTSD reaction to. To something is joking. You're like, yeah, smoke that, dude, man. Like, and you're just being everything from that. Everything from that point forward is obviously 100 going to be a factual about you, right? No jokes. So that's what you do. Because you can make a joke, be like, yeah, man, I got. Got him. You know, and it's like, that may be your crude way of, like dealing with trauma is like just joking about it. But you're all. You're on the hook at that point for every word that comes out of your mouth. So there's a situation where you're in a critical incident. I think everybody should take time. And that's where a lot of these bad confessions come from are stress of an environment. They think they're guilty of something. They convince them. And I still don't understand confessing to something I didn't do, which happens a lot.
Tyler
They think you're talking about Ronnie o' Neill from Riverview, Florida. I wouldn't know.
Mike
It definitely wasn't black guy I was talking about. Depends which one we're talking about. But nobody in my head was black.
Tyler
Never talked to anyone. That was Stephen McDaniel. You're speaking on the Giddings case. He cracked under the news. Let's see if we can find it.
Mike
Okay.
Eric
Cracked under the news. That's great.
Tyler
Stephen McDaniel interview, Stefan. So it's like, S T P h e n McDaniel. We have a. Oh, here we go. Cece called us out. We didn't read his Jew chat for A$99 at the beginning of the show. He's Jewish. We can say that.
Eric
It's only 1.99.
Tyler
Yeah, CC is Jewish. It's a Jew chat. Jew super chat.
Mike
Sure.
Tyler
With keto on coin. Saw it this morning on vacation.
Eric
Oh, he got a coin. I mailed him up. Same one. I gave you guys one of those challenge points.
Tyler
Okay, cool. I got mine right here.
Eric
Thanks, bro.
Tyler
He wanted to let you know that.
Mike
All right, here's this interview.
Tyler
All right. Thank you. Thank you, thank you.
Mike
Oh, boy. Hanging out with anyone at the time or anything like that?
Tyler
I mean, no, no, no one has seen her since Saturday. I haven't seen anything. I mean, you always hear noise outside, but it's just people walking by. Pretty much recently graduated from Mercer.
Eric
Yeah.
Tyler
She and I were. We were both JD students. We graduated back in May. What kind of person was she? I mean, how did you. What did you see? I mean, she's as nice as can be. I mean, very personable, very much people person.
Mike
Do you know anybody that. Any enemies she might have had?
Tyler
Somebody that might want to hurt her? No, I'm. We're. We don't know where she is. I mean, the only thing we can think is that maybe she went out running and someone snatched her. Because I. We went out, we went over. One of her friends had a key with. We went inside and tried to see if there was anything amiss, but, I mean, she had a door jam that was sitting right by it. So there was no sign that anyone broke in. I mean, door was locked when everyone got here. We just don't know where she is. What about in the, like, the parking lot area?
Mike
I know they've been doing a lot of.
Tyler
I think that's where they have recovered the body or whatever they recovered from there.
Mike
I think.
Tyler
Had you heard body? I mean, we don't know if this is the same person.
Eric
You know what I mean?
Mike
Like, they still got a body there earlier.
Tyler
We don't know if it's the same person or not. So that's how we're trying to ask people if they know who lived there. Are you okay, sir? I think I need to sit down. Okay.
Mike
So he didn't plan for the body to be found. So that was his reaction to.
Tyler
And he did it.
Mike
Yeah. Oh, so he's going through the interview and he's. Look how talkative he is, man. He's got all the answers, right?
Eric
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike
Everything's great.
Tyler
Look for.
Mike
Yeah, the door was like. He's like, that's him laying his story. Like, she got snatched. Like all that stuff's there. And he's like, I knew I hit her really good. We're good. Everything's good. And oh, yeah, I found him. And that was it. That's the moment where he was like, oh, man. And that. That. You can see that moment a lot during interviews when they had that moment. A lot of them. Will, you're up at that point or completely just shut down and stop.
Tyler
Done.
Mike
But there is. There's the human body.
Tyler
The.
Mike
The reaction to reality smacking you in the face.
Eric
Yeah.
Mike
Like, I. My plan was flawless.
Tyler
Nowhere.
Mike
My plan was flawless.
Tyler
I left my phone at home.
Mike
There was no ring camera. And they're like, hey, we got you at the gas station buying the rope, like, 10 minutes before. You're like, God damn it. The gas station rope. I forgot. Like, that's the moment of, like, I thought I hit her. Really?
Eric
Well, we had that in that DiPolito case where the lady hired a hitman and hired her undercover cop to hire. She was, like, real pretty and was on all the current affairs and all that.
Tyler
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
Eric
Yeah.
Tyler
But.
Eric
But they brought her husband in the room. It was Dipolito.
Tyler
I thought her.
Mike
Yeah, no.
Tyler
Who's. The one where they're in the park. No, it wasn't. Her husband had come in a room. They were like, your. Your husband's alive or your husband's dead?
Mike
No, you're thinking that was out in the front of the house.
Eric
They filmed it on top.
Mike
She comes running up. Yeah, she comes running up and she's like, oh, my God. And they'. Your husband's dead. And they're telling her, like, yeah, she's like.
Tyler
But she knew.
Mike
She hired somebody to kill him.
Eric
And like, the creepiest boss that she's hugging, you're like, of course she's hugging that guy. Yeah. You're always.
Tyler
It's typical pop culture.
Mike
He was alive and. But they told her. They told her that he was dead. And then they watched.
Eric
They staged pictures and everything. And then when they. He walks in, he's like. And she's like, oh, my God, you're alive.
Tyler
Oh, yeah, that was down. That was in Florida, right?
Eric
In Boynton?
Mike
Yeah. Yeah.
Tyler
Oh, that's in all those murder mystery series. Everybody covers that one. It's wild, dude. And then there's that Jody Arias chick. She did the same thing.
Mike
She drove across. That chick was wild.
Tyler
Yeah. Didn't. She's the one that did the same thing, right? Murder for hire.
Mike
No, she stabbed a guy. Jody killed a guy herself. She stabbed him. Like, there's a guy in the shower and she drove across. Mason was his name, I think.
Tyler
Yeah.
Mike
She drove across from New York to wherever he was, and she stabbed him, like, in their. Like, reflection in his eyes. Like, his last picture alive, you can see, like, the fear.
Tyler
And.
Mike
Yeah, she stabbed him in the shot. That was a huge trial. Yeah, it was a huge trial. Jodi. Arias. That was a wild trial.
Eric
And you ever think as a dude, you're gonna get that?
Tyler
Well, here. Yeah. Here in Orlando area, which I didn't know. I didn't live here at the time, but I met a lot of the investigators that did the. What's her nuts? That got away with it.
Mike
Oh,
Tyler
girl that killed her kids.
Eric
Oh, yeah.
Tyler
What's her name? It was the Orange County. Orange County.
Mike
She's back on Tick Tock.
Eric
Yeah. There's a comedian that hooked up with her, and that's part of his act. He actually hooked up with her when she was like 19. He's like, Casey, was it? Casey Anthony.
Tyler
Yeah, yeah.
Eric
That's why I remember the comedian.
Tyler
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got away with murder, dude. Murder the kids, nuts, dude. O.J. i think. I think that. Haven't seen something like that since OJ So let's talk keto.
Eric
Yeah.
Tyler
Now, how you're part of the 99. You've supported us every which way. You've been on the show multiple times. You're always in the chat. How can people achieve. And I'm gonna sound like. But I'm dead serious. I wonder how could people achieve their keto goals? And through you, like, what's, what's the process about that? Because I feel like you're just such a nice guy, you give out all the information for free. Free.
Eric
Yeah, I do. I mean, I. I recommend products. Of course. I have a little bit of like, you know, affiliates, links, but I'm not making any big time money.
Tyler
So. Keto 5o is just for the kindness of your heart.
Eric
Oh. I went to sports nutrition school and also became a nutritionist, and I became a health advocate where I can help you guys with blood work and all that stuff. And it became. When I was diagnosed with heart disease, I didn't know anything about that stuff. I didn't know what LDL was. I didn't know what heart disease really was, except for it's killing all of us. Right. So I took a deeper dive into it. I started realizing there's some things I could tweak, you know, my diet, the processed food, some of that stuff. And, you know, losing that 80 pounds.
Tyler
Did you lose it while you were a cop or.
Eric
After I lost 50 pounds as a cop. That's where the whole keto five zero nickname stuck. I was in evidence and everyone noticed me, you know, losing weight and hey, what's going on? And the nickname stuck. And then as I started coaching guys, kind of like what I was telling Mike, he'll call Me. And I'll be like, yeah, dude, go for Doritos or go for pork rinds. Don't go for Doritos and all this stuff. That's all I was doing. And I got into records and dispatch, and it started kind of growing a little group. Still didn't know I was gonna do it. I was retiring. 2019 happened. You know, I get out, started RVing, and let's travel the country and see where we want to end up. Covet happens. And, you know, throughout that journey, I was meeting different retired veterans and all that, and I started coaching them. They'd call me, hey, what kind of beef were you saying to get? It's called grass fed. Make sure it's not, you know, they don't feed it corn and soy. You know, just little tips, you know, and guys would lose a little bit of weight here or there, you know, I knew guys are big on their booze, so I was like, well, get off the freaking beer and go to vodka. I would always give them an out. And that's why, even now, I tell Mike, if you're craving something, there's a way you can still meet that little.
Tyler
Yeah, you know, a little itch.
Eric
Yeah. And also the way you work out, you know, and there's different things. I'm 56, so I'm in the late game.
Tyler
I was gonna say, you look like you're 46 at most.
Eric
I mean, it's crazy. I mean, the diet, of course, helped changing my lifestyle, help retiring, becoming one again with my family. Right. This job takes that away from you, which I don't think guys realize after 30 years, you got a nice pension and you got heart disease, diabetes, and no family, and it's. That's a good clipper.
Tyler
Hey, but if you don't do the whole 20.
Eric
Hey, I did. I did 19.
Tyler
Not a real cop.
Eric
No.
Tyler
So, I mean, I've been all aside. I've been side by side with Mike going through this. What's been. About a month?
Mike
Yeah, about six weeks.
Tyler
Have you ever thought about creating, like, an app where, like, you can. You can counsel and coach people?
Eric
I probably.
Tyler
And, dude, even.
Mike
We know some guys.
Tyler
We know some guys. Even if you charge five bucks a month, like a Patreon.
Eric
Yeah.
Tyler
It's free. It's free advice. Like, you're already a phone call away for everybody you help. Yeah, I would. I would do it.
Eric
Well, there's big stuff with. Like, when you're getting told, like, you need to be on statins or you need a. You need to go get this heart scan, you're in danger of dying. There's ways you can still look at that situation through a different lens so you're not subjected to exactly what they say all the time, which we know it is. It doesn't end well. Right? Yeah.
Mike
Well, I agree with Tyler. We have guys that make out. And where I look at is, like, what you're doing for me for free with the updates and pumping out those plans and the snack that should be. You should capitalize on.
Tyler
What we learned is that time is money. And as much people as we want to help, we asked for a. We started with our patreon. We started just asking, like, for five bucks a month. A month. Less than a cup of coffee. You have full access to us. But, like, we were. We were spending all of our time, like, answering questions for people. I mean, I'm talking everything from cop work to how to do podcasts, like, how do I do this? How do I do that? And so we would. We just asked, like, hey, five bucks a month. And the amount of people that switched over, A, because they wanted to support us, and B, they wanted the knowledge. I think if you had an app or at least a Patreon.
Mike
Yeah, I agree. And where I grew into that with, like, Tyler's mindset on business and time is I can remember a time in my life even working out, I would never paid anybody to, like, I know how to work out. I at right now, I'm paying a guy $150 a month for a bench press program because he's a world like known coach.
Tyler
Adding that to the list of things that aren't manly. Go ahead.
Mike
When I benched 405, we'll see if that's manly. So I knew there were some techniques and things I needed, so I. And it was. It's just online video. He sends me video. Here's what I want you to do. Critiques it. I never would have done that until now. I see the business sign and I see the importance of having the right knowledge where I can Google it, I can figure it out, but to have somebody actually critique it. So that's where I look at you as what you've been giving me. I'd pay. I definitely would pay money for. For just that little bit of critiquing. And here you can do this. Here you can do that. And it's worked great for me.
Tyler
I'm telling you $5 because you're the type of guy when you hear, charge them for. Charge people 15amonth, you would say, no, I'm not doing that. So I'm saying $5 to get your head in the door, because people go, five bucks isn't that bad. What you're doing, what I've watched you do side by side with Mike. It's not. You're not doing. You're not doing that to get on Anti Hero. You're not doing that to get something out of it. You're doing that because it's just. You love helping people.
Eric
Well, I almost died. I mean, they were pretty much telling me I was gonna die. You know, we got kids.
Mike
That's a good reason to start.
Eric
So you start looking at stuff seriously. And you know, I Lost Joe Crowder, 792- I'm 793-right- after each other. And he died of a heart attack. He was a canine guy, tip top shape. So that really had me looking. I was at the time was £250. I'm like, if that dude died, where am I headed? Right? So it really made me think about. I've said it before, we know how to write our search warrant or arrest report that takes someone's rights away. And you don't know how to read your blood work. You know, you don't know what that means, what a statin's actually made of, what it does to your kidneys or certain things like that.
Mike
Do you think, how about this? Do you think it'd be good for administrations to start, like, mandating that blood work?
Tyler
They won't. It's too risky. They'll lose too many.
Eric
There's a Oklahoma. I think it's Oklahoma City has their training unit reviewing blood work to help try to get their officers off of medication.
Tyler
That is accountability. Because you'd have to get. If you did that, and half your agency was extremely unhealthy. If you cared about them, you'd go, well, let's start the initiative now. We've got to start helping these guys. First off, on a business mindset. These guys are all unhealthy. I need them stay until retirement. I can't. The retention is too hard in any agency. I want my guys healthy and good to go and happy and able to make it to retirement. Even if you look at it like a business, right? You take personality, but law enforcement's a family, right? You care about all your guys. You care about all these people. They are working a very high stress job and your administration, and it's killing them. I think that would be great.
Mike
That, that's great. And the other side of it is because you and I I don't know how big you've ever been. This your biggest.
Tyler
Are you talking about height or wait.
Mike
No, I know you're right.
Tyler
I've been way fatter.
Mike
Okay. But you. Not the massive transformation you and I had. I was up in the 250 range at 1 point. You were.
Tyler
I was never that fat, guys. Don't worry.
Mike
I was never that undisciplined. That's part of my comeback story. I've been down and out of a train wreck the best.
Tyler
I, I want to pause it real quick because I this, the clip didn't do it justice. One time we were filming night shift and we were going through all the old photos of Jimmy when he was scrawny and skinny and, and Mike when he was fat Detective. And everybody looked at me and they're like, Tyler's still in his before.
Mike
He hasn't even hit the after.
Tyler
That was the best disc you've ever done. It was so funny.
Mike
But, but as we pushed training and everything else, I look as. As a sheriff or as a boss or leader, I would want you to experience that after exactly what Tyler just said. Like, you know, there's a healthier, more confident, better performing person inside. And when you get to that level of, you know, we all have done, we got to a certain weight, we just gave up. Right. We were like it. I'm, I'm not ashamed. I can't even get the first five steps of this run in. I'm going to put when you finally cross that threshold and start to change the confidence, the, well, the mental well being. And then like Tyler was just saying, very smart. I'm gonna give you confidence or props. Props on being smart. We do want cops to get to retirement and we want them to get beyond retirement. Yeah, I want to see your 20 years, whatever you give me as a leader. But I want you to have another 30 or 40 with your family that you earned after retirement. And the only way to do that is healthy. You're not. Statistically it's impossible to turn into a, a slug and be completely out of shape and expect to live past 20, 25 years of this job. The job is miserable. It's going to create its own health issues anyway. If you're not healthy, you're not eating healthy, you're done. So that, that what you're doing I think is important.
Eric
The positiveness of eating right. Eating real food doesn't mean you got to eat grasshed steak all the time.
Mike
Time.
Eric
But just cutting some of the processed garbage out, you're going to think better, you're going to be more energetic, you're going to make better decisions as a cop. I think a lot of, a lot of it is we're in a hurry to go for our 40 and now you got to tune this guy up because you're going to miss lunch because you're hangry, you know, but if you, if you're satiate and you're eating the right foods, you're going to make better decision, you'll be thinking quicker and you're going to be just a better overall person.
Tyler
I think the, the argument for Carnivore for is the. Probably the best argument I've ever heard for anything because I truly believe it was the diet we were meant to be on. The amount of physical and mental, what would you call that? The, the level that you're at physically and mentally, it's, it's your most optimal. I think that diet is the most optimal way you can eat as a human being as far as all these, all the health benefits and I mean like, for instance, like, let's say, oh, I don't drink anymore. I'm trying to eat healthy, but man, I'm like, I'm always groggy. I'm. Oh, what's your TRT? No, I'm, I'm at 9, 900, dude, it's not, it's not my testosterone levels. It's like, dude, it's what you're eating. I know that. I know that.
Mike
100, 100.
Tyler
I watch him. I, I would watch him crush energy drinks. As soon as he went to Carnivore, he was like, I have more energy now than I ever had. I watched him drink a monster once because he was bored. Yeah, he had a white monster. I'm like, oh, you need that? Monster goes, no, dude, I'm just. We were sitting around waiting and I'm just bored. I want to drink a monster.
Eric
Like, it's crazy, man. I, I could not stop. I couldn't sit for too long. I had to get a desk, a Vera desk, because I was in evidence. And I just stood up all day long, just pacing and I was like, man, this is insane. This energy I'm feeling.
Mike
And what it's got me back to is running. So it's like I would, I. There was a. You're right. I would leave here eating and not to say you can't eat normal. I'm not. And I'm not very normal. You. I eat a lot for that. When I get to eating, I can eat, but I would Leave here, we'd go hit the Mexican restaurant, we go hit the pizza place, we get. I'm like halfway to home and I would have to stop and get like coffee. I'm like exhausted. This amount of energy from doing this has changed and I'm not being paid. You're not paying me anything. This is a completely honest opinion. I have gained energy. It allowed me to start running again more. It allowed me. My weight has, my lifting has gone up. And unlike every other diet I've done, I keep telling you this, I haven't dropped pounds on the scale which people will go, oh, you didn't drop any pounds on the scale. Must not be working. No, my stomach is disappearing. I can actually see my abs again and I'm still 205. So I'm maintaining a good number. I'm not victim weight and I'm. But I'm transforming and you can see it happening. And then like I said, running, lifting all those things, I feel better, I'm more energetic, I'm sleeping better. I am sleeping better. My wife had to tell me this morning. She had to go to briefing, so she had to leave at 4:30. She didn't let the dogs out. She usually does when she leaves at like 5:15. She'll let the dogs real early. She's like, don't sleep your ass in bed until too late. The dogs have to go out and
Tyler
they have to eat.
Mike
And I literally, I was waking up 5am, 4:35 6 on my own, couldn't go back to sleep. I can lay in bed till 9 o' clock now. Dude, like, I feel better, I sleep better. It's been a, it's been a great thing.
Tyler
I know. I'll text him at 8:45 and I
Mike
get nothing, buddy, I'm out.
Eric
You're healing from the inside out too. All those years of process. Oh, I ate like that was 20, I was fine. Well, if you do that 30, 40 years, all that stuff's going to build up in your cells and your fat and your muscles. And then when you're, you know, trying to adjust that, you're going to go through a lot of energy levels up and down. But a detox happened to me when I started losing all that weight. All that fat that I had put away was toxic. So I had heavy metal poisonings. Lyme disease showed up. I had molds pop up in my blood work, so everything was just coming out.
Tyler
Oh, so it's a purge.
Eric
Yeah, it's a purge.
Tyler
Seriously, purge things, you're gonna, you're Gonna have to. It's better for it to come out now in that purge and slowly, then slowly and kill you. At 71, I had, guys, I'd say,
Eric
cut under 30 grams of carbs and having a rough time. And then finally, I found that 100 was a good way for people still to have that sandwich and not feel so guilty.
Tyler
100 carbs a day.
Eric
Yeah. That's just a good start. Which is only like. It's like, what, three slices of bread?
Tyler
And so could you if you were really disciplined. You didn't need the. You didn't need the. The carbs. Mike's a weak guy. He needs those carbs all the time. Let's just. Let's just say you're. You're in it. You've been doing it for years. It's a lifestyle. Can you save that for, like, Brett? Like, we'll. We'll. I have to hit the drive through. It's the only thing here. Oh, we have breaded chicken. That's the only thing we have. Like, all right, I'll take that. Breaded chicken. Is that.
Eric
I don't even know if that's even chicken you're eating, dude.
Tyler
Yeah, that's the other problem. So you can't have chicken from.
Mike
No, no. You're supposed to eat real chicken. Yeah.
Eric
You're supposed to go to the store.
Tyler
Okay, what if you're not at the store?
Mike
You could do, like, a burger, right? You would get a burger and take it off.
Tyler
You even know if that's real meat? Beef?
Eric
Chances are it's more likely to be beef than is.
Tyler
Okay, so that's a good. So that's a good answer. Is that triple up the burger. So just. And what I've noticed is a lot of. My dad started doing carnivore a couple years ago, and he started in the time where when you said, just give me the burger patty, it was silenced behind the drive through. And they're like, I have to charge
Eric
you 12 patties for 22 bucks at Wendy's.
Tyler
Everybody's starting to get on board.
Eric
Just the patty.
Tyler
Everybody. Everybody's getting on board with the. The. The carnivore or keto. A keto is. I don't know.
Eric
Keto is just meat and vegetables, guys. And a little bit. That's all it is. It's no, like, special recipe, but there's
Tyler
a lot of good food you can't eat.
Eric
Well, what.
Tyler
Name one in keto. Everything I don't like. You can have carbs.
Eric
You can have pastas. You just try to go. Maybe you don't go for the whole week. No, you're just limiting being. Being keto is. You're eating a ketogenic lifestyle means you're starting to get your body ready, start breaking.
Tyler
But don't you have to.
Eric
You'll get there. You don't have to be there all the time. You'll eventually get there if you eat in the proper foods.
Tyler
I don't know. I've heard a lot.
Eric
You got extra.
Mike
You're thinking of keto. Like, when you go on Atkins and you feel your body vibrating and you're pissing on that strip and like, you're. I don't feel like that. Yeah, but I'm. Yeah, but it's.
Eric
Well, a keto vore is. You have a little bit of plants in there.
Tyler
Like, okay, I'm canceling my app. Canceling my app.
Eric
My keto5.0 app's already done $5 out the window. No, when we say it's ketogenic, it's a way of. Your body burns energy and you know they've cured epilepsy with it before. You know, it's been hidden since the 1920s.
Tyler
Yeah.
Eric
So it's. There's a huge market there. And when you find out what it is, it's like, yeah, I had a steak, I had a little bit of sourdough bread, I had a little bit of broccoli. It was fine.
Tyler
I'm telling you, this information you've got, dudes, literally, like the counterculture app for
Mike
nutrition we could get from.
Tyler
But this information you did, like, this isn't. I mean, I know you could go on YouTube anytime and do it, but the questions that people would be hitting with this is endless content. I mean, me asking you, like, basic things about Carnivore and keto, like, you could have a.
Mike
You should have a thread on Jones is for something.
Eric
Just do a scoop of almond butter, man.
Tyler
That's what I'm saying. Like, that's another good little hint.
Mike
Or this keto, first off, see this thing? The hardest part, this is just a big. I gotta. I'm gonna show everybody.
Eric
Shout out keto Savage.
Mike
This dude brings snacks when he comes too. So this is just a brick of, like, chocolate.
Tyler
Chocolate.
Mike
And it's good. It's sweet enough to give me the sweet flavor.
Tyler
Well, have you ate it yet?
Mike
Yeah, I'm full of.
Eric
Dude, it's full of protein. Some are tallow and some are more of a cacao.
Tyler
Well, here's the thing about Carnivore too, is if once you Understand that the government has lied to you your entire life about everything, including. Including the fda. Health, wellness, everything that you think you want. Well, maybe not wellness so much in 2026, but everything you think you know because of the textbooks is wrong. It's inaccurate. It's corrupt. And carnivore, from my understanding, will reset all of that. Carnivore. You don't have to worry about what the FDA says.
Mike
Rfk, man. Remember the make America healthy again work
Eric
out in blue jeans, man. Hey, they did that to him with vaccines.
Tyler
There you go.
Eric
Oh, that just got me canceled.
Mike
This is good, man.
Tyler
But yeah, all right. I mean, we're coming up the end of the show, man. Keto or Eric Keto. I. I like. I almost like calling you Keto.
Eric
I know. The real name is Eric Reynolds, everybody. Where. Where can they find you@keto50.com and also cops and Campers is my non profit where I get us all together, do this at campfires. We can talk nutrition, we can talk trauma, or we can talk.
Tyler
Sorry.
Eric
You know how. How much going to D.C. doesn't have
Tyler
to be considered for the unmanly list.
Mike
And here soon we will have the keto 5o show on counterculture. We have a slot open Tuesday nights at seven. If you'd like. If you'd like to start doing your broadcast on the counterculture network, that G
Eric
money is the slot.
Mike
Yeah, you can have. We got a time slot for you to start doing your Keto show with your new app.
Tyler
Yeah, I would definitely consider the app. The guys that did.
Mike
I would too. I would talk.
Tyler
They've already commented on it.
Mike
We'll get you in touch with Jay.
Tyler
Put us in touch with them. Yeah, dude, it's.
Eric
Hey, I can get you to doctors too, about if you're having problems having kids, I know doctors are going to help you.
Mike
That could all be in the app, dude.
Tyler
Okay, we're literally gonna have to limit you.
Mike
Just easy on. Don't. Don't do too much about like sperm donating or anything, because you'll get sperm sent to you in the mail by these psychopaths in the network, so don't do that.
Tyler
But I know we're gonna be constantly calling you. Stop giving away information. You're one of those guys just want to help people, right? All right, guys, that's it.
Eric
Go.
Tyler
Go find Keto on his Instagram. Keto5zero. Cops with campers. Cops and Campers.
Eric
Cops and Campers. There's documentary on YouTube too. You want to check it out?
Tyler
Okay.
Mike
Other than that super chat.
Tyler
What's. Oh, late super chat. Working people will get bulk. Me, other than the deli.
Eric
White Oak pastures in Georgia. There's a military discount. 20 Jason.
Tyler
I think that was probably more of a gay Jay's.
Mike
Not even America. It's not even American.
Eric
He could come to meat stock.
Tyler
Is it always in Gatlinburg?
Eric
No, this year's in Nashville.
Mike
Oh, meat stock. Home of the deli. I want to see the counterculture needs to be going to meat stock.
Tyler
We'll have a booth. All right, tonight we have Hot Topic, seven o'. Clock.
Mike
Seven o'.
Tyler
Clock. Hot Topic on the Counterculture Inc. Network. If you. If you haven't, go subscribe to the Counterculture Inc. Network on YouTube. That's where all of these guys have all their amazing shows. They're doing great. They help us out. And we will see you tomorrow, 1:00pm Eastern Standard Time on YouTube, Facebook or
Mike
X. I didn't say I was hungry today.
Tyler
Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
Mike
Because I had beef box.
Tyler
Yes, Box.
Mike
I had this thing.
Tyler
Oh, beef box.
Mike
Keto Brick and prima bars. Primo bar. I just ordered four boxes of these, too.
Eric
Reach out to me. I'll hook you guys.
Mike
I'll hook you up. It'll be in the app.
Tyler
All right, guys, see you. Jv team for life.
Podcast: The Antihero Broadcast
Episode: TERRORIST Plot Thwarted at UFC FREEDOM 250
Date: June 17, 2026
Host(s): Tyler, Mike, Eric (guest, aka Keto 5-0)
This episode offers a blend of news, law enforcement banter, cultural commentary, and health advice, focused particularly on audience members who are veterans, first responders, and blue-collar Americans. Main topics include the recent foiled terror plot targeting UFC Freedom 250, law enforcement culture and leadership, debates about freedom of expression in sports, and a recurring theme on personal health—especially through low-carb diets.
Recap: The hosts break down the FBI's role in thwarting a terror plot aimed at UFC 250 and potentially the White House using snipers and drones.
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This episode transports listeners through a rapid-fire mix of world events, police culture, tech threats, true crime analysis, sports controversies, and practical health and wellness insights—all delivered with irreverent banter and authentic, sometimes provocative, blue-collar candor. Even amid heated disagreements, the underlying values of camaraderie, integrity, and self-improvement stand out. Whether you’re interested in the nuances of police admin, new threats from technology, or how to transform your health, there’s something to chew on from The Antihero Broadcast.