The Bullet That Shot CHARLIE KIRK DOES NOT Match the RIFLE (03/31/2026)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: The Bullet That Shot CHARLIE KIRK DOES NOT Match the RIFLE

Date: March 31, 2026
Hosts: Tyler, Mike, Nick (with occasional mentions of others)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into two primary topics: controversies surrounding a recent Miami police shooting involving female officers, and the forensic questions in the Charlie Kirk shooting—particularly the significance (or lack thereof) of the bullet-rifle ballistics match. The conversation unfolds with candid, often blunt, first-responder and blue-collar perspectives on policing, media narratives, conspiracy theories, and the impact of technology on truth and youth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Technical Glitches, Growing Pains, and Audience Shoutouts

• [01:36-05:17] The hosts open with technical difficulties and some banter—frustration but also camaraderie about live show issues.
• Tyler: “I was the last person in the agency to, like, switch from handwriting arrest affidavits to computers… if it’s not broke, you don’t fix it.” (04:52)

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2. The Miami Police Shooting: Gender, Race, Media, and Public Perception

[05:17-13:39]

• Tyler reads and breaks down a local news report about the Miami police shooting where a female officer shot an unarmed man.
  • “Already if that was a it, that would have read ‘white cop shoots black man’ right out of the rip. But that's how they wrote it. An altercation that led to a shooting.” (06:23)
  • They critique the language used and draw contrasts with coverage in high-profile cases like Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner.
• Nick: “Statistically, more unarmed white men are killed by police each year than unarmed black men.” (08:00)
  • They both challenge prevailing media and activist narratives about police violence.
• The hosts speculate about why the incident—five female officers of color, an unarmed man—hasn't drawn national outrage.
• Tyler: “The black female is probably the most protected person there is. Unless they're a black female conservative, and then they are the most hated.” (10:16)

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3. Policing, Use-of-Force, and Gender

[13:39-20:28]

• The hosts evaluate the officers’ actions and preparedness.
  • Nick: “You had a dude who could probably whoop all their asses at the same time, right? And rather than use the tools they have, they shot her.” (08:33)
• Tyler brings up practical on-the-job challenges, criticizing current standards (e.g., fingernails making pepper spray/gun manipulation harder).
• Both feel that training and physical readiness are critical and often lacking.
  • Tyler: “Nobody's ready for anything. You got no weapons, take them the f— down, man. There's five of you.” (18:56)
  • Nick: “They're afraid, dude. They didn't want to go hands on the guy…” (19:05)
• DEI (Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion) hires, policies like fingernail length, are called out as distractions from real policing needs.

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4. The Bullet-Weapon “Mismatch” in the Charlie Kirk Shooting

[20:28-32:38]

• Nick (before signing off): “Just because they couldn't match the bullet to the gun doesn't mean it wasn't the bullet to the gun… It's fragments.”
  • The hosts clarify and demystify forensic ballistics for the audience. Tyler draws on personal homicide investigation experience to explain why bullets often don’t (or can’t) yield perfect matches, especially with high-powered rifles.
• Tyler: “I have been to homicides where it's so bizarre, you're like, how did this happen?” (29:21)
• Mike: “Most bullets aren't able to be matched to the gun.” (22:53)
• The hosts agree the media is exaggerating the significance for conspiracy/theater.
  • Mike: “It's as common as not finding fingerprints on a wet car where it rained all night.” (25:15)
• Forensic discussion branches into the rarity and difficulties of matching fingerprints or ballistics in real life versus CSI-style expectations.

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Notable Quotes:

• Tyler [23:27]: “This would be a big deal if you really didn't… have no idea who did it… But when you got like the guy standing over somebody shooting them and then you go to the lab and they go, well the bullet doesn't match. It's like, yeah, but he was three feet away shooting him. Like it happens all the time.”
• Mike [22:53]: “The 100% verification from the bullet to the barrel would have been nice, but… most bullets aren't able to be matched.”

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5. Conspiracy Theories, AI, and the Modern Mind

[32:38-42:58]

• Mike and Tyler discuss why conspiracy theories about the Kirk shooting are thriving.
  • “We're coming out of a time… we believed whatever was on the six o’clock news… now we trust absolutely nothing.” (35:00, Mike)
• AI’s increasing impact on news/media trust: concern over deepfakes and manipulated content, especially for youth.
• Tyler: “I have to look at common sense in my head… If there's 87,000 conspiracies, not all of them are right… only one of them is right. But to have that many variables also discredits the conspiracy theories.” (37:02)
• The hosts note the manipulation of social media and content skirting AI moderation.
  • Tyler: “If you look at some of the captions on those videos, it'll be about like the 2006 Honda Accord… and it's a video of a dude [getting shot]. That's why they do that. It's beating the AI.” (41:42)

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6. Parenting, Technology, and Protecting Kids from Modern Dangers

[42:58-55:39]

• Strong arguments for strict limits on tech, social media, and keeping kids offline.
  • Mike: “[My kid is] the only one in his age that doesn't have a cell phone. He doesn't have Internet access.” (43:54)
• Homeschooling discussed as a defense against ideological and technological “contamination”; critiques of public education as a “babysitting service.”
  • “Educating your child every day actually takes about two to three hours… The rest… is just a public babysitting service.” (53:16, Mike)
• Tyler recounts time offline as “cleansing,” emphasizing the mental toll of constant social media.

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7. Blue Collar, Law Enforcement, and Purpose in Work

[55:39-65:24]

• The value and dignity of blue-collar labor, contrasted with public narratives about college and “purpose-driven” careers.
• Tyler shares a listener’s request for more content for non-first responders (“regular” blue-collar workers) and echoes that shop-talk is universal.
  • “We’d like… a blue-collar, regular worker type person that comes on, talks… because we’re all the same.” (59:33, Tyler)
• Mike and Tyler reflect on family, meaning, and how life priorities change after experiencing the drama and stress of first-responder work.
  • “I just want to hang out with my family now. Just want to be with my dogs.” (57:44, Tyler)
• Anecdotes about the special camaraderie and respect among blue-collar and first responder professions.

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

On Media Framing Racial Incidents:

• Tyler [06:23]: “If that was a it, that would have read ‘white cop shoots black man’… But that's how they wrote it—an altercation that led to a shooting.”
• Nick [08:00]: “Statistically, more unarmed white men are killed by police each year than unarmed black men.”

On Ballistics and Conspiracy:

• Nick [20:28]: “Just because they couldn't match the bullet to the gun doesn't mean it wasn't the bullet to the gun… All this is, is a defense tactic to create some reasonable doubt.”
• Tyler [23:27]: “When you got the guy standing over somebody shooting them… the bullet doesn’t match. It happens all the time.”

On AI & Social Manipulation:

• Tyler [41:42]: “If you look at some of the captions… it'll be about a Honda Accord, and it's a video of a dude [getting shot]. That's why they do that—beating the AI.”

On Parenting in the Tech Age:

• Mike [43:54]: “[My kid is] the only one in his age that doesn't have a cell phone… He has no Safari Internet. He's got no social media. He's got no Explorer… I don't know when I'm gonna let my kids have social media.”

On Work, Meaning, and Blue-Collar Life:

• Mike [58:46]: “You can graduate high school, get an apprenticeship… open your own company and be a millionaire by 35 years old.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [05:17] — Miami Police Shooting: breakdown and criticism of media reporting
• [08:00] — Policing, race statistics, and gender issues
• [13:39] — Use-of-force debate, officer readiness, and equipment
• [20:28] — Charlie Kirk shooting: bullet-gun ballistics and forensics explained
• [32:38] — Why conspiracy theories proliferate and the challenge of trusting “official” sources
• [41:42] — AI’s role in spreading violence, bypassing content moderation, and danger to youth
• [53:16] — Critique of public school and value of homeschooling
• [59:33] — Listener feedback: importance of blue-collar topics
• [64:15] — Respect for overnight and manual labor, blue-collar camaraderie

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Tone & Style

Blunt, irreverent, and conversational. The hosts pull from their law enforcement backgrounds but consistently reach out to, and advocate for, blue-collar and “everyman” audiences. They mix serious commentary, dark humor, vulnerability, and cultural criticism—often challenging political correctness and mainstream narratives with first-hand perspectives.

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In Summary

This episode is a punchy, wide-ranging discussion from the frontlines of law enforcement, blue-collar work, and modern American skepticism. The hosts tackle their headline topics with real-world insights, a bit of gallows humor, strong opinions, and a clear concern for how media, technology, and cultural changes are impacting both adults and the next generation. Listeners get deep dives on police shootings, the practical realities of forensic science, the pitfalls of modern conspiracy thinking, and a call to respect both first-responder and blue-collar ways of life.

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For further insights, check out the episode’s extended "Part Two" on Patreon, where the hosts go deeper into community questions and current events.

Transcript

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[Tyler]

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[Nick]

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[Tyler]

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[Mike]

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[Tyler]

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[Nick]

Oh yeah, man. You look really excited. Yeah, man.

[Tyler]

You know if I say Anything. I'm a dick, so I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna leave it at that.

[Nick]

Listen, man, there's always growing pains, man. Always works out. You know what I mean? Ebbs and flows of life. You ever see that Seinfeld episode? You know, it's. You always even out, dude. You lose something here, you gain something there. It always works the out. This will start popping.

[Tyler]

Hold on. I got Tyler calling me. Yeah,

[Nick]

We can hear you.

[Tyler]

I don't know what we're doing. Then I. Everything's on. I don't know.

[Nick]

What. What? What? What's it on? Okay, Growing pains, guys. Just bear with us,

[Tyler]

All right? No idea why I can't hear. I can't use my headphones.

[Nick]

What happened?

[Tyler]

No clue. All right. Can't see you guys. This is awesome.

[Nick]

Yeah. Can't see us.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. And I can see. I'm looking at the screen. It's me and you.

[Nick]

Yeah, yeah, I see it. You want me to come out? Go out and come back in.

[Tyler]

No, don't do anything, Nick. Hold on.

[Nick]

All right.

[Tyler]

How about that?

[Mike]

Anything you do, I just gotta win. Well, I think they can see Nick.

[Nick]

At least Mike has no hair.

[Tyler]

I don't know. Can you. I can see me now.

[Nick]

I can't, but they can still.

[Tyler]

All right. All right, we're good.

[Nick]

All right. They can see us now. Only the best.

[Tyler]

So, you know, I. I was the last person in the agency to, like, switch from handwriting arrest affidavits to computers. I just. I. Some things when they're not broke, you don't. You don't fix it. We got one person watching on Rumble. Couldn't find it yesterday. We got one person watching on Rumble,

[Nick]

but I just got the alert for it, and then when I clicked on it, it wouldn't load.

[Tyler]

We're on Rumble, So here we are, live. If you guys missed the ads, you guys know the OG's ghost bed? Elevated silence. So have you been following. I'm gonna wait for Tyler to get here about the. The thumbnail topic with the Charlie Kirk stuff. You've been following this Miami police shooting female thing I talked about yesterday.

[Nick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It's fun stuff. That's what happens when you get a bunch of females trying to do police.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna bring up. Now, my. My big argument here is. I think it's pretty obvious the real Tyler cut yesterday. If this was in any other direction, any other.

[Nick]

They said he'd be burning.

[Tyler]

Now, I want you to read. I'm going to read you the police, the Article from the local news that came out this morning about the incident. So hopefully, hopefully I'm gonna be able to do that.

[Nick]

I found it.

[Tyler]

All right.

[Nick]

I found you guys on Rumble.

[Tyler]

Okay, so here is how they wrote the article for that yesterday. So remove both of us.

[Nick]

Maybe you should have. Let me guess.

[Tyler]

I don't know how to remove you.

[Mike]

Hold on.

[Tyler]

Remove, remove. Okay, so for people looking at home, I'm going to read it because I'm pretty good at reading. A city of Miami police officer and a man were hospital early Saturday after an altercation escalated into a shooting downtown. Already if that was a it, that would have read white cop shoots black man right out of the rip. But that's how they wrote it. An altercation that led to a shooting. Then it happened at 7am 7am near Biscayne Boulevard and Northeast 2nd Street. According to Miami police. Morales said two officers were flagged down by bystander recording an argument. When officers arrived, one of the individuals involved turned aggressive towards law enforcement. Police attempted multiple non lethal methods to subdue the man, including the use of a taser and pepper spray. Before one officer fired a gun. Again, one officer fired a gun. That minimizes it. So down like oh, they fired a gun. Both the officer and the man were transported to the Jackson Memorial Hospital for treatment. Authorities said the man suffered non life threatening injuries and the officer was also injured. Morale's comment on the incident happened during a busy weekend in the city which included Ultra a Con concert at the Kaya center and the Marlins opening weekend. This is an anomaly. Miami continues to be one of the safest places. We have enough resources around downtown, our eastern urban area to make sure everyone can have a safe time. So that is one of the most ridiculous cooked. Hold up. You're watching on there. I gotta get you over here. Look at how that was written to minimize the fact that an unarmed man was shot by the police.

[Nick]

Well, listen, statistically, more unarmed white men are killed by police each year than unarmed black men.

[Tyler]

More white people are killed by police.

[Nick]

Absolutely, dude. The percentage is just. It's a false narrative that's been pumped out for, you know, to make race relations volatile as much as possible. And, and again, you can look at this case right here. Clearly you have five women of color. And I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't think race played any, any factor in this whatsoever.

[Tyler]

99 of the time. It doesn't.

[Nick]

Yeah, it's gender. You had a dude who could probably whoop all their asses at the same time, right? And rather than use the tools that they have, they shot her. And still I think that lady was so scared and so pumped up with adrenaline, I think she changed from her taser to her gun. And probably in her mind, she had her gun out and she wanted to switch to her taser because, you know, when you're that amped up and you have an adrenaline dump so large is that. And for one of us, we wouldn't have that big of an adrenaline dealing with that situation. But for her, it's life or death.

[Tyler]

Yes. And even if you look at. Even if you look at, like the practical things that my wife is a big advocate of, talking about the fingernails, if you watch the lady with the pepper spray, she's got the big fingernails, she can't manipulate the equipment. They never even thought of. They don't think about any of that stuff when this happens. But it's it. Yes. They were all shaking. The shots. She's shooting her gun. The gun is shooting like a fricking 50 cal. Like everything is insane in that scenario. But I just, I start Googling this morning like the old headlines of like Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner and all these old ones, and it's like, immediately, black, unarmed black man shot at music festival. Something to that effect would have been the headline, 100%. What I find even more interesting is black males are in the comment sections of these posts about this, defending the females. If that was white ladies, they wouldn't be defending it. I don't believe this is like, the black female is probably the most protected person there is.

[Nick]

Unless. Unless they're a black female conservative, and then they are the most hated people.

[Tyler]

Yeah. They share two of the most wild distinctions ever.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

They're the most protected if they're. If they're liberal and then they're the most hated if they're conservative.

[Nick]

But in this case, yeah, you got crazy white ladies throwing a hard R at a black woman conservative, and no one bats a eye.

[Tyler]

Yeah, yeah. I just, I can't make sense of it. And we can't go any direction, you know, and, you know, like the commie guy and all that, they always have a fucking cop out. You oppressed the people 400, all this nonsense. Yes, there were terrible things that happened, but right here, right now, we can't get on the same playing field or even get out of all that drama if you can't separate race and all that in an incident like this. Because right away, the race is never brought up.

[Nick]

It's never mentioned on it. You just Touched on it. When race relations started to fall apart was Trayvon Martin. When you had a president who interjected himself into law enforcement, which never really happened before, and I believe it was actually prior to Trayvon Martin. You had a black college professor that would stop trying to break into his own home up in like Cambridge or some like that. Remember, they had. It was like the League of Beer or the. Whatever the. You know, they. They had a. They sat down over a beer. It was, I think Obama. Yeah. And that's when it started, which is complete.

[Tyler]

It wasn't even a cop. Like, it was like it was spun so hard that Zimmerman was a. Wasn't even a cop.

[Nick]

He wasn't white either. He's a Spanish guy. But it got framed as a white man. Hunted down that this young black teenage kid that wasn't doing. And. And that's. That wasn't the case. Sad. Should he lost his life. Absolutely not. Yeah. The dude should have just backed off and let the cops do their thing, but he didn't. You know, it's not. It's not against the law either. You know, Trayvon shouldn't have fought him and tried to beat his ass. Yeah, there's a lot of things that. That could have happened. He now he was. Deserve to lose his life.

[Tyler]

The fact that he was most likely there because it got so hidden. Probably maybe breaking in cars.

[Nick]

Maybe breaking in the cars.

[Tyler]

Yeah, we never got that far. So it was like it never mattered what happened. And then you got, you know, the track incident from last. Last year where the white kid gets stabbed in the fucking throat at the track. That would have been another complete disaster. So you can't get on a level playing field or try to get things back to, like, everybody seeing things the same way. When the first line of it is the media, like, it sneaks out into the minor details down in Miami and it's like, oh, it's a safe city. It's a. If that was the other way around, it would be the most dangerous place. White cops are out of control. Stay in the house. You can't be black and come to this music festival. Like, it would have been a completely different narrative. And that's what. That's what pisses me off the most, is I consider myself very down the middle. I criticize a lot of cops. When I see something that's not correct by the cops. I will absolutely say this looks horrible. Like, regardless of race, color, Cree, all that stuff, it looks horrible. But you can't just cherry pick your times to be upset and expect for anything to. To change. You can't. It's not. It's never. It's never going to work ever.

[Nick]

Tyler's here.

[Tyler]

He is here, but he's not there now.

[Nick]

Got you. Oh, by the. By the way, Clint, what are you talking about, man? This is stars and stripes. This is pro American shirt. Love in America. Every day.

[Tyler]

Every day.

[Nick]

Yeah, dude. So race relations in the late 90s and early 2000s were good. Probably some of the best it's ever been in this country. And, you know, Obama, by design, did exactly what he wanted to do, and he destroyed the race relations, starting with the. The beer gate or the beer garden, you know, with the cop and the professor. The professor was trying to break into his own house. If it was a white guy trying to break into his own house, the cop probably would have did the same, except the white professor wouldn't have acted like a victim, and the shit would have been squashed. Well, you know, maybe.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Look at the one that just happened with the guy got fired for shooting the dude with the knife in the street. The one that we just saw. The. The guy's walking down the street with a knife, and the dude stitches him up. He gets fired. That's an armed subject with a knife gets fired. Black female shoots an unarmed dude. Miami. And it's like, no, it's fine. Like, it's good. Everything's fine. It's. You can't have that much disparity in a nation where everything is on TV and everything is seen and everybody can go, wait a second. That guy shot a dude coming at him with a knife. He got fired. And this chick shot a dude in the back. And they're being, like, almost praised, like it was a good thing to do. And it.

[Nick]

I don't know, do we? The similar thing in Philly. A guy was attacking a cop with a knife, and he backed up way too many fucking times, but he kept backing up, backing up, backing up, and he shot him. And it was a big, big to do about why we didn't have Tasers. This was about five or six years ago. Well, Tasers weren't issued to every cop in the city. I believe less than half had tasers that were issued. So it's equipment thing again, that went to defund the police. You want to be fun the police, which means we won't have the equipment to do the job you want. But then you're going to holler, where's the equipment at? Why didn't he use or deploy non Lethal options. Well, it's because you defunded the cops. Not to mention, on top of that, now you start hiring bags that shouldn't be police officers, and. And your chance of corruption spikes.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Well, then. And then in Saturday's event, you have all the weapons. There's your, there's your. Other side of it is you have multiple cops. Numbers are on their side. Pepper spray, tasers, guns, all that stuff's available right there. Had time to prepare. They had time to talk to him. He was standing still, getting angles, getting distance, and they still failed to the point that they shot him. And it's okay. It's okay. And then they write the affidavit. I don't know if you listened to my episode last night, how they wrote the rest affidavit. It's absolutely insane. They said that he. They write the affidavit in like a three sentences, and it sounds like it happened over like minutes, and it happened in like four seconds. How he.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Rolled around aggressively, stood up, and full throttle charged one of the officers. It's like, what, like, where, where was that? Where was that in the video?

[Nick]

Beginning of the test align.

[Tyler]

This is allegedly. I haven't seen it all, so I could. I'll eat crow if I had to eat crow, but based on what I saw in that video, that looks like a dude trying to get the fuck out of Dodge. He just got pepper sprayed and tased and he's like, let me get the fuck out of here now.

[Nick]

Yeah, I, I do think that she was probably trying to shoot her taser. And in the confusion, she put the gun, you know, because the taser looks like a gun. And a lot of advocates are trying to say, like, they need to create. Police need to use a taser that doesn't represent a gun. So we don't have, you know, you know, accidental discharges of your firearm when you meant to shoot a Taser. Because in high stress situations, you know, you can kind of fall apart and your reasoning and thinking kind of gets slowed down and you're not. Not at your best, especially if you don't train for it. And obviously these women did not train for situations like this.

[Tyler]

No.

[Nick]

Because none of them knew what the to do.

[Tyler]

And, and if you. But if you. But if you read that rest affidavit, it. It makes it sound like she intentionally transitioned to her firearm. You know, like, I'm telling you, they wrote it the way they wrote it

[Nick]

is like, test the line.

[Tyler]

Yeah. It's like, that's not what it's not what happened. So.

[Nick]

I don't know, man, listen. So the feisty goat is bright yellow. How can you miss it? Yeah, I get it. But you know, when you're in them high stressful situations with a huge adrenaline dump, it's shaped just like a gun. You're not looking at it. And I don't know, dude, your reasoning kind of gets up. If you're not trained properly and you're not able to control yourself and be able to handle that adrenaline dump, you can get fucked up. I mean, I know some cops that. That pulled the gun out. The gun with the taser. I'm not making any excuses. I'm just saying that this is probably what happened, which is no excuse or it's not a reason for it happening. You're right. It's big and yellow and she know what the you're doing.

[Tyler]

No, I agree, it's not, but it's. If you look at the totality of that video, nobody's ready. Nobody's ready for anything.

[Nick]

You got no weapons. Take them the down, man. There's five of you. Control holds.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but they never tried it. They never tried anything.

[Nick]

They're afraid, dude. They wouldn't. They didn't want to go hands on the guy. And the girl was looking at the pepper spray. Did you see her, like, checking it out? You know, we had a DEI hire here in Philadelphia, Commissioner, outlaw, you know, female. Her first official act as the police commissioner of Philadelphia, one of the best police departments in the country was the fingernail policy. He changed the fingernail policy to let them be a little bit longer. And you can have nail polish and fucking designs on it because that's what she had her first act. That goes to show you.

[Tyler]

I agree. Like I said, my. My wife. I see what the standard looks like if you're going to be in this job as a female. And yeah, you should not have fingernails because you can't work the slide of a gun. You can't get your finger in the trigger under stress. You saw yesterday, you can't get your pepper spray done because your nails are in the way. So everything that involves fingernail. Everything involves manipulating your gun with. With fingernails doesn't apply. No female should be able to have. They shouldn't be able to wear jewelry and they shouldn't be able to have fingernails.

[Nick]

Listen, like, to your point, I got a heart out. I just want to. I'm gonna leave you with this tidbit to your next segment. Just because they couldn't match the bullet to the gun doesn't mean it wasn't the bullet to the gun. It's the fragments. They couldn't get any. It's all this is.

[Tyler]

I know you've been.

[Nick]

All this is. Yep. All this is is a defense tactic to create some reasonable doubt on that. I bid you guys to do. I'll catch you guys later.

[Tyler]

Awesome.

[Mike]

You. Awesome. Hey, Mike.

[Tyler]

Hello. I'd have my headphones on, but it doesn't work with this.

[Mike]

I was telling people that this is like coming. Like when you. When your mom goes, like, your dad's coming home from work and he's super pissed and you're like. Like, I was watching the car. I was like, man, this guy is going to be mad.

[Tyler]

Just, it's. Look, I mean, it's growing pains. I get it, but my. My audio is coming out of the laptop. I'm talking through a microphone. There's no way to fix it. I've tried everything. I have selected input Rodecast Pro 2 chat. How do you select your output audio? Like, I don't understand where the output audio selection is.

[Mike]

I don't even know what output audio means.

[Tyler]

Like, how are you listening? How are you getting it through your headphones? And I can't.

[Mike]

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. What was going on was my. The camera switcher was working, but it wasn't switched to my camera. It was set on another camera that's not on. So I could have talked. Yeah, but. But yeah. I mean, what Nick's saying, obviously it's. It's the Charlie Kirk thing is they're saying it doesn't mean it's a hundred percent.

[Tyler]

I mean, I've been involved in homicides. What happens is simple striation marks. When a bullet comes out of the gun, it spins through the barrel. And then when it ends up wherever it ends up, they can take that barrel of the gun and they can take the bullet fragment if there's enough usable parts of the bullet fragment left. And say, this bullet for sure. It's like DNA or fingerprints. This bullet for sure came out of this barrel because we recreated it. We shot it a bunch of times. And the marks on the barrel, the barrel leave, on the bullet are the same as these. So that. So basically what that. What that means to me is there's not enough usable part of the bullet that they recovered that can actually 100% say it came from that gun. So it is. It's a. It's a stunt. It sounds like. It's like, how many times did you really? Ever recover fingerprints at a crime scene? Like three, two.

[Mike]

It just doesn't, doesn't happen.

[Tyler]

So when they go, well, you didn't find any fingerprints? Well, I didn't on the last 3,000 cases either, but I still know that guy did it. That's basically the fingerprint of the bullet.

[Mike]

The 100% verification from the bullet to the barrel would have been nice, but it's, it's not necessarily what they need because I, I, not only is it, is it worded well, it's what the country wants. They want a big Charlie Kirk conspiracy. They want the other shooter. That was the, the Mossad CIA agent that took him out and put all the blame on this one kid. But you know, it, at the end of the day it's, it's probably just a really boring case of this happens all the time. Most bullets aren't able to be matched to the gun.

[Tyler]

This would be a big deal if you really didn't. If you had no idea who did it, you have no idea who did it. You find a gun and you're like, oh, we found it. And then you go, well, the gun belongs to Tyler and Tyler was at the event going to put it and they had no other reason to believe you're there. They had no idea. And then they go, oh, it doesn't match. It doesn't match his gun. Even though it's the same caliber bullet, it comes from the same type of gun, it just doesn't match that gun. Then you're like, now we, now we don't really have enough. But when you got like the guy standing over somebody shooting them and then you go to the lab and they go, well the bullet doesn't match. It's like, yeah, but he was three feet away shooting him. Like it happens all the time. And that's based on, you know, usually our shootings that we investigate homicides are close range handgun shootings where the bullet fragment is in pretty intact. In this case, you have a high powered round that goes the distance, hits them, breaks apart. It was a, you know, it was a glancing blow in the neck. It, it's, there's a likelihood that you're not going to get enough of that fragment to go, yes, this is exactly right. But it's, it's not the headline they're making it.

[Mike]

No, because it's actually pretty common.

[Tyler]

Yes, very common.

[Mike]

But if actually people don't know that it's more common, and correct me if I'm wrong, I would think it's more common to get a no guarantee match than it is to get a 100 match.

[Tyler]

I believe in rifle shootings like this, yes. Where it's a high powered round that travels so fast and breaks apart so much. It is very high, not common. But your handgun battles close range. The bullet usually stays enough intact. I've worked several homicides and every. They've matched in everyone that I worked. But they were close range handgun nothing. You know, had one guy execute another guy in the woods. Like that was pretty simple. He was so smart that he, he threw the bullets away from inside the gun, thought that would be the trick and didn't realize that it's the bullet that comes out of the gun that you have to worry about. So he made which was helpful evidence because he went and asked somebody, hey, I got to get rid of these bullets, can you get me new ones? And the guy was like, what do you mean? Like why would you need to get rid of the bullets? They didn't. So but in everyone I worked it matched. But there again they were close range, like very close range shootings where the bullet didn't have time or to. To break apart. In this case, these high powered rounds are going to break in pieces. That's the point of them. They hit you and they go all over the place and break up. So it is a huge play on tactics and a huge play into the conspiracy and it's great for the media, but it's, you're right, it's as common as not finding fingerprints on a wet car where it rained all night and going, well, he committed burglary. I saw the guys on CSI do fingerprints and they had them in three minutes and they had a match in the computer. It's like, yeah, doesn't work like that.

[Mike]

You know how many times man. Pulling fingerprints too. Let's, let's talk about that. As a patrolman, anytime you got to do fingerprints, it's always 112 degrees outside. I don't know what it is, but you got to put latex gloves on and that obviously heat escapes you from your feet, hands and ears. So that automatically makes you hotter and you're sweating and there's dust everywhere. It's the worst. And you never get a good print. And, and all the, and I'm sure how many prints have probably been passed up because the person do it had a shitty attitude.

[Tyler]

Oh yeah.

[Mike]

You know, you have to have a very positive like I'm going to find a print a thousand times before you actually go, oh my God, I got a print for once in my Life. I got a print. They're so rare that agencies offer, like, vacation days for a good print that leads to a warrant. Like, so they're very rare. And also, I would just be like, listen, I'm about to dump a bunch of black dust all over your Mercedes. Do you want that? And they're like. And I'm like, the chances of pulling a print are probably one out of a thousand. Do you want me to dump this black dust all over your Mercedes? And they go, well, no. I go, okay.

[Tyler]

You know, my agency had. It was. It was actually one of the funnier things, and I'll give them credit for it. They had a wall in the back of a crime scene with every deputy's fingerprint that were pulled from the crime scene and how many times. So, like, you were a. And you were touching before he actually started lifted and called crime scene. So they had. If you made the list, you got your name on the board, and then it had the number of tick marks where your fingerprints were pulled from the scene. And what was funny, one of the captain, he's now a deputy chief. I can't stand him. He thinks he's hot. They had a cold case from before I started 0203, and the fingerprint technology got better and all this stuff, and they actually got all excited. They had a. They had a print of DNA in all the brutal murder of an old lady. Helen McPherson brutally murdered unsolved. But it was the crime scene guy. Like, 25 years later, they got all excited. We got a match. We're waiting on the DNA to come out. We're waiting on the.

[Mike]

Oh, my God. Can you imagine that, guys?

[Tyler]

Because he touched something. The Mr. Professional had touched something without gloves, and it was his. So it is uncommon. You know, blood is. I had success with blood. I had a couple burglaries where I recovered blood DNA and I was able to get cases, guys that had, like, one guy lived in Miami three hours away, and he was up here committing a crime. I had another guy he broke into. Who was that? Outfielder for the Johnny Damon outfielder for the Yankees and bet Red Sox. Had a boat here in town, and his boat got broken into. And I was able to get blood and make the case. But, yeah, fingerprints are like, it's so unlikely.

[Mike]

Yeah. So at the end of the day, the Charlie Kirk thing, as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, man, this is going to be rage bait. And it's not even like. I guess it's not even really rage bait. It's, you know, Keeping that conspiracy theory alive. Because, I mean, I've never even asked you, Mike, what your actual 100%. Well, nothing's 100, but what you might majority believe that happened to Charlie Kirk.

[Tyler]

I think it is a little fish. It's exactly what we saw happen here. The reason I. I say that is over time of working cases and investigations, I have been to hom. I've been to suicides where it's so bizarre. You're like, how did this happen? And things happen that you just can't gather. So we put it in our head and we. We see it a certain, certain way, and we go, this. This had to be. This couldn' happened like this. This kid couldn't have climbed up. This kid couldn't have done. He couldn't have, but he did. And I've been to crime scenes where it's like, there's no way it happened like this. I'm gonna have to sneeze in a second.

[Mike]

Hold on.

[Tyler]

I'm trying to block it, but there's. You get there and you go, there's no way this happened. I mean, I remember a guy shooting himself. Everything goes that way. He must have been alive for another 10 seconds. He walked down into the garage, turned around the other way and fell backwards. So now you have all the stuff going that way. He's over here facing that way with a hole in the back of his head. And the bullet bounced around the room, and he was laying, and it was laying right between his arm and his body. And you're just looking at this, and you're like, somebody killed this guy. You're like, no, it's a suicide. The gun's still in his hand, like, clearly. And you're just like, huh? So when you. When you. Until you see things that don't make sense, and you just have to accept that that's what happened. Doors were all locked. Guys home alone, leaves a note like, it's all there. Somebody heard the shot. Nobody had time to run out. So when this. In this guy, I think it happened exactly like it did. But just like when we want our brain to think something else because everybody else is telling you to think something else or things don't make sense to you, because it's just. There's an infinite amount of things that could happen. And yeah, he was there. We know he was there.

[Mike]

Podcasters putting out clickbait thumbnails. Disgusting.

[Tyler]

Who did that?

[Mike]

We did. No, I'm so. And I'm just kidding. But, like, you know, when you get. When you get guys like Influencers out there that just won't let it go. So there was the whole, like, exploding lapel thing, right? That was a stretch for me. Then you got the guys slowing down the freeze frame of, like, his security. Like, oh, he just signaled further for the shooter to. Or, you know, maybe he was shot. Like, there's all kinds of crazy.

[Tyler]

There was another one with the handgun, a gun that, like, looks like your skin. That's a suicide gun. And you, like, the guy, like 11ft away, like, aimed it just right and, like, pulled the trigger. That's what I'm talking about, though, when you. If you watch that video, if I. If I take everything out of it and I start slowing video down. And again, you can't go exactly frame by frame. There is always going to be something that looks weird. I could probably watch that with a hundred people and convince all 100 people something different happened. And by the end of the time me talking to them, they're gonna be like, yeah, man, I talked to this guy Mike, and this is what happened. And the other guy's gonna go, I talked to this guy Mike, and this is what happened. And your brain is easily manipulated. And is it. Is it. And I hate to say the word cool because that's where we're at in the world, though. But is it cool to just go, some psychopath, transgender loving freak shot Charlie Kirk?

[Mike]

It's.

[Tyler]

It's just not. It's not. It's not a cool story. It's like, okay, that's over and what's next?

[Mike]

It's a tragic story. It just.

[Tyler]

It is a tragic story. Yes, it is. But it's not a lot of people. If you just put it to bed, it's not anymore. It's tragic and you're done with it.

[Mike]

There's two reasons. First off, people. A lot of people just like you say they can't accept the fact that, you know, until you see it with your own eyes, something could physically actually happen the way it did. Like, physics wise. The second thing is that a lot of people just do not like to accept the fact that human beings are animals and just really bad things happen to people and. Or your favorite artist committed suicide, and it wasn't because there was a giant about to be a giant, you know, exposure to a pedophile ring. Like, no, these guys, you know, and that's. I'm referencing, like, the.

[Tyler]

We see the school shootings, the random acts, all the crazy stuff. And it's like, guys like Charlie Kirk get people wound up. We watch grown females over, like, Trump getting elected, like, they can't handle it. So then you get somebody that doesn't scream on the outside, they scream on the inside. And then they're like, they have some psychopath behavior issues and they get in their head, I have to kill this guy and consequences. And this generation, that's part of my thing, this generation that we're in has no knowledge of consequences. It's going to prison for the rest of their life. Doesn't make sense to them. It doesn't. They've been babied so much that they think, well, I'll just do it and nothing's gonna happen to me. Like, my mom always took care of me. I never got beat up. I was able to sit in my house and play video games. Like, they don't understand the consequences of their actions. And that's where I think they cross the line and go, well, I watch people get killed all day on the Internet and people blow up. I see it, it's decent. You're desensitized to it. So it. I'll go kill this guy because I hate him. He says nasty things and they don't have consequences. Then even when you're arrested for it, it's like, okay, now I'm arrested. Now my. My attorney's gonna say that the bullet doesn't match. We're gonna kick the conspiracy theories around. And it's just a generation of people who don't understand the consequences. And the Bible. I go back to the Bible and God. Like, some of the consequences should be that you're taking another human's life for. For no reason. And then you have to face God at some point and explain it. But still, on Earth, there's consequences like jail, prison. You think that kid's ready to go sit in prison? Everything we've heard about prison, seen about prison, what Jay has told us, little white kid, dude, he is in trouble when he gets there.

[Mike]

So, well, and consequences and going back to what people want. Like, I think that we are coming out of a time obviously, where we believe whatever was on the six o' clock news. And we. The truth was here and we were here. And maybe around like five years, 10 years ago, we crossed where we were good, and now we're way over here. We trust absolutely nothing that's told to us. Yeah, we actually look for other opinions other than you got here talking on the phone. Like, let me break it down for you. This is why. And you're like, man, this sounds crazy, but I'd rather believe it than believe what was told to me because what the official narrative was of the government, because no one trusts the government. But we've. We've pushed it so far past now that we believe nothing. Even if it's logical. It's pretty logical that. I mean, I heard it. I heard the initial breakdown before the conspiracies came out of what happens when an inexperienced sniper. So someone who shot before but doesn't take into any considerations of what a sniper. I was never a sniper, but what a sniper needs to look for. And the guy was most likely aiming at his head, but. And then everybody broke it down how he got shot in the neck because nobody takes a neck shot that's too small of a target. You're either gonna take a chest or a head shot. And if you're a sniper, you take a headshot. So when they aim at his head. And inexperienced snipers, actually, because of the variables, I don't know if somebody in the chats knows, but the variables is means he got hit in the neck. And it just makes sense. It's just brutal. And I think it was probably the first real assassination that's ever really been caught on camera. It was like pretty much live. I mean, I remember instantly. Ev is just faith or Instagram. It was just Charlie Kirk getting killed. And I was like, you know, I just don't think anybody was ready for that. So you're trying to justify it in your head.

[Tyler]

But now hold on. And here's. Here's the next step is work. Bunch of. We're a bunch of. For not believing the conspiracies from some people. Like, we're going to catch the hell that. Look at these podcasters. They believe everything that the narrative the government puts out. Like it's, It's. It's a weird time because if you don't buy into the conspiracies, it's like, oh, these guys just listen to the government and everything that's put out. I have to look at common sense in my head. And if there's a. If there's 87, 000 conspiracies, which I think we're probably up to in the Charlie Kirk that. That seems extreme. Like, not all. Obviously not all of them are right. If there is a conspiracy, only one of them is right. But to have that many variables also discredits the conspiracy theories. And I go, okay, like the JFK one's tougher, older video, grainy, very hard to see, very. All that stuff is very difficult and easier to conspire on that one.

[Mike]

I Think, well, now there's new versions coming out and they're saying this was the actual version before it was altered.

[Tyler]

Yeah,

[Mike]

you are literally watching an altered one now. And like, man, you don't.

[Tyler]

That's a great.

[Mike]

Isn't it?

[Tyler]

Isn't that great?

[Mike]

It's like, man, you're like trying to get away with something. I mean, the, the human nature.

[Tyler]

You're like, I watched a video this morning on. You know how I feel about dogs. I watched a little girl talking about a dog and she's like, the dog destroyed the house. Like, there's everywhere. And she's like, oh, no, I did it. He didn't do it. I'm over there half in tears, thinking, what a cute. It's all AI, dude. I'm over there getting emotional and it's. I didn't realize. It's like a little girl, A little girl sticking up for her dog because she didn't want the dog to get in trouble. And then I'm like, o, dude, I got cooked, man. It's AI so should be illegal New version of. Hey, we got this new angle of the moon landing. Check this out. It's like this is the new one. You guys didn't see it, like, just the other day, the new angle of the. The helicopter in plane in D.C. came out a year and some change later. Like extremely clear, complete video of like.

[Mike]

I didn't see that.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it came out like two days ago, three days ago. A new. Because the old angle was like them going at each other so you really couldn't tell what happened. There's a new angle. Some reason it takes a year, year and a half to come out of it clearly is 1080p of the two of the plane and the helicopter flying in each other.

[Mike]

Like, is it real?

[Tyler]

Is apparently not, but is it like they're saying that freaking old Benjamin's dead over there in Israel and all those. All the videos are putting out right now are AI. And you're like, do I believe it? Do I not? But look at his ear, look at his finger, look at his neck. We're in a world, man, where it's

[Mike]

just gonna never forget, man. What was it a year ago? You said, in two years we're not gonna literally know the difference. So we're a year into that. Like, you're not going to be able to believe anything you see on the Internet.

[Tyler]

If I ever get a hold of an AI program that's like advanced, that I can just talk to. Forget it, dude. Forget it, man.

[Mike]

Live my Life trolling the world.

[Tyler]

Yeah, like, yeah, like that's just everything is AI. You don't really have to do anything anymore. And that's where the basement dwellers in the. In the. And, and, and all that. To me, you can infect the mind as well. Think about the attack on the brain with AI to get people to do things like shoot Charlie Kirk, shoot up a school, get. Go out and you know, beat up cops. Go out and hurt innocent people. The, the monster of a. I still have grown men, grown adult men. Older grown adult men who should be pretty smart. Because I think older men are smart our generation and older men still don't believe in the Internet that send me these fake AI female cop pages. And they're like, bro, look at this. I'm like, buddy, you can't tell this is fake. Like you're in the comments with fire emojis acting like a. And like you've subscribed to a fake robot only fans. And I'm like, you can't tell the difference. Like as a grownup, like now take that to a 15, 16 year old kid and manipulate his brain with it. We're doomed, dude. We're doomed.

[Mike]

Yeah. The only thing you can do is keep your kids offline. And I mean I going back to Charlie Kirk, I mean, do you know how many probably pre teens saw that? There is no. As much as like they're pushing out Instagram and Tik Tok for teens now. Like they're, they're, they're getting smart. They're realizing that parents are like, no, my kid's not having this. So they're like, oh, it's for teens. You really think a gajillion Charlie Kirk assassination videos not one's gonna slip through their filters. Even if it's for two minutes. Boom. Right there.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Post approved.

[Tyler]

It always slips through. Yeah, something slips through the cracks.

[Mike]

It me up and I was.

[Tyler]

AI is the one in char. AI is the one in charge of filtering. So you learn how to get around the AI with the way you post it. Because if you look at some of the captions on those videos, it'll be about like the 2006 Honda Accord was one of the greatest Japan like this long thing about a Honda Accord and it's a video of a dude.

[Mike]

That's why they do that.

[Tyler]

Yes. It's beating the AI.

[Mike]

Oh my God. I did not know that's why they did that.

[Tyler]

I thought they were actually AI believes. And then the first part of the video might be something random and then it kicks in and it's like, oh, here's a dude's head getting blown off. And it's like they're, they're skirts.

[Mike]

Japan's solar power system.

[Tyler]

This isn't cottage patch Kids. What is this? So it's like, yeah, it's easy to manipulate that stuff and get around it. So we, yeah, we have kids seeing things they shouldn't see and all the nightmares of AI and the Internet are coming to life and then that fuels the conspiracy stuff and it's just, it's, it's a non stop cycle of disaster. But when we do have clear cut stuff like the, like the Miami shooting or things that we can see, even then humans manipulate it with, well, that one's not that important or that one's not that big of a deal. We're gonna let that one go. And it's a wild time. It's a very wild time.

[Mike]

I just, I get, I understand homeschooling more and more now and homeschooling is becoming more and more prevalent. I mean it's like explaining anything to your kids. You could be like, how do you explain to your 7 year old, hey, although all of Hollywood and TV is telling you it's okay to do something, it's actually not okay. So okay is telling you to dress up like men can dress up like women or, or do these things and it's like, it's not okay. I know your favorite show is telling you it's okay or you're seeing it around, thank God Florida. Our schools don't do that. But the only way you really protect your kid is like influence them the most without with the least amount of outside influence. So I get it. Not a lot of people can put it would just take your kids out of public school and homeschool. It'd be a lifestyle change for everybody. You would have to have relearn parenting all over again. You're so used to your kids being out of the house so you can go to work, you can clean, you can do whatever. And now they're going to be home. But you know, at least, I mean, My kid is 13 years old. My other kid, and he's the only one in his age that doesn't have a cell phone. He doesn't have Internet access. He has no access to the Internet. He's got an I watch because, or an Apple watch because you can have a phone line on there. So he has all the quad, but he has no safari Internet. So he can't surf the Internet so I can text him I can track him, he can listen to music, he can, you know, but he's got no social media. He's got no safari or no explorer. And I don't know when I'm gonna let my kids have social media.

[Tyler]

Yeah, well, he doesn't know it, so it's not hard to take away. I'll be honest with you, man, and I know it sounds crazy. People are gonna laugh when I say this. When I was on the ship, dude, it was nice. And I actually put, I. I put a few pictures up on. You saw on Patreon. I had the memes I posted were pre made like before I left. So I threw. I didn't want to follow the algorithm on Cottville, but I did very little scrolling and brought. I answered my DMs like I normally do, like at the end of the night, but when I was during the day, my phone was down. I didn't touch it, I didn't pick it up. And over those. That week, it was like cleansing. It was like, okay, like my phone's not telling me what to do all day or where I should go look or what I should think. It was like, I'm actually just riding around and, and driving around on islands, doing things. And it was nice. It was nice to actually not have to deal with that. But yeah, it's a dangerous place for the kids, man. It's a dangerous place.

[Mike]

Just, I mean, just. I mean, look at. I don't know about your generation. Your generation is probably more squared away than mine. You're probably like the one up from mine. But I mean like the introduction to digital porn.

[Tyler]

Oh yeah.

[Mike]

I mean all we joke about it like we all crashed our family computers because like, you can act like I'm. Again, I'm keeping the. I'm not even joking. But you come from a time when you were 14, you had to hustle for that porn. You had to hustle for it.

[Tyler]

I remember finding magazine in the woods and find a magazine somewhere.

[Mike]

And now, I mean, my generation, it was 100 accessible. It probably ruined us. And you know, we have to like, do things.

[Tyler]

I remember coming home. I remember coming home. My dad was. I was probably in my 20s. I was. I was a cop. And my poor dad's over there downloading pictures still. And I'm like, dad, I caught him doing it. I'm like, I'm watching the image load like this and then. And it comes up and I was like, hey, man, check. Check this site out, man. Go, go type that in, man. And thank me later, like that Batman,

[Mike]

where he's like, yeah.

[Tyler]

He's like, all right, it was just hilarious. But to see that. But yeah, you're right. It was like now and then became. You know what that did? What that honestly did is it created a bond. So many false expectations and poisoned the male mind and created just a whole nother. To the point that only fans is what it is. I mean. Yeah. Created a problem.

[Mike]

I mean, all right. Because you're right in the sense that. I think. I don't know. I don't think I ever fell for the expectations part. I think dating young and having a girlfriend and then also being subject to porn, I was like, yeah, no girl's ever really gonna do these things. Like, no respectable girl that you want to be with is gonna. Because, I mean, at some point in your life, every man goes. I don't think chicks like sex. You like it. Like, there's a year period in every man's life where you're like, I don't really think chicks likes this. Like, why. Like, is it. Is it a. Like, it's almost like a chore. So.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And then what? I. I mean, I put your head. I can't. But honestly. Yes. And then it created that fault. I mean, what was. Then it became the threesome. Like, that was like, every guy. Every. Like, everybody had to see it. Like, the lesbian thing. Like, it became such a wild phenomenon. I. I cannot imagine how many marriages were ended or. Or destroyed by that image that burned in through porn was, what's. I have to. I did. This has to happen. I like, buddy, you can't handle one woman. You don't need two. That 30 seconds you're giving your.

[Mike]

Your.

[Tyler]

One woman is not going to resonate to two. But the honesty was like, yeah, it became like, you saw it. So now it's like, oh, my God. And it. It. It sucked everybody's brain dry of, like, thinking. And then you can't get that. So it's like, what do I do now? Like, I can't feed the. Like, it's like alcohol. I can't feed the urge there. So I'm gonna go over here. I'll go cheat on my wife because it'll give me this feeling that I'm out. I'm wreck. Like, it did it. The whole thing created false expectations of what it was really like and a whole world of it. Just dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Because it's never gonna happen. Like, it's like watching. It's like watching the Millionaire who wants to be a Billionaire? Like, yeah, I'm gonna have that house one day. Well, no, unless you go really work. Like, you're not. Oh, I went digital. Yeah, the massage got me. Yeah, I'm good. That happens on stream yard too, so I'm not going to complain. But yeah, it's a, It's a world of. And now we're seeing it with everything else. It just transition to transitioning and transgender. You can do whatever you want. All those wild ass things are.

[Mike]

I know I sound like my wife, but I mean, you're telling me that there's no demonic influence on our culture where you can instantly, with a click of a button like com, like hit complete visual euphoria. I mean, obviously, like, like, I don't know, it's. It's just not euphoria. Sorry. Like, it is like euphoria is sin. I believe that a Christian life, like a true Christian life that none of us follow because we're all sinners, is nothing but struggle, difficulty, and you die. It's not supposed to be. You're supposed to serve God in your life. You're not supposed to serve yourself. So in theory, it's not the most euphoric life. But then you look at like drugs like people that take heroin are. And then people who have died have said the same thing. It's euphoria. But people that use drugs are synthetically creating that euphoria. But when you're dying, you. This euphoric experience of like, I feel nothing. There's no hate, there's no sadness, there's no pain there. It's just like euphoric, like, and they're like, I could see me. I saw myself leaving my body. And then heroin, people said the same thing. I feel nothing, but it's just, it's synthetic and man made. So life sucks and then you die. That's part of being a Christian.

[Tyler]

Yeah, but I don't know. I donate the dog rescues when I'm having a euphoric cruise experiences to, to, to keep my, to keep myself in the good deed area. But yeah, I mean, that's where the, to me, the law enforcement thing comes in. It's like when you do something like that and I don't care if it's for five years, 10 years, 30 years, like you're serving other people. And I look at that as very admirable. As much as I joke about it and get, you know, make jokes, you're important comedic.

[Nick]

You're.

[Mike]

By God to. You're under Romans 13.

[Nick]

You're.

[Mike]

You are, you are administering law Appointed by him. And, and I, dude, I was in Laguna beach and ice cream's like 15 a pop there. So I, I mistakenly was like, hey babe, let's take the kids to go ice cream over there. Because we were walking Laguna beach and of course I'm like, holy, I already told the kids we can get ice cream. And I'm looking at the prices. So we're in line to get ice cream and some homeless lady comes up and goes, hey sir, I'm homeless. And I look at her, the old Tyler, and I go, that's awesome, dude. Go ask them for money. And I pointed right at two people standing there like, what the did I do? And then she turned and asked him for money. And then of course my wife's like, that's not the Christian thing to do. And I'm like, that's what I'm. I'm just so seasoned to telling bums to go kick rocks. Like, don't victimize me. Go somewhere else. And so we, we took like five or six dollars, our change, and my wife went and saved face for me and gave it to her.

[Tyler]

And the dude was like, that's all you got?

[Mike]

Well, what she did was she goes, thank you. And handed to her lady sitting there like her banker. They were collecting money, about 400 bucks that day. Yeah, she's gonna go buy dope. And yeah, here's the thing, take it for what you will. Because I. That's my thought. They saved up enough money to get in line and get ice cream.

[Tyler]

I was like, six pack, six pack. We got two super chats. We got Valkyrie says Valkyrie. Hey, anti hero. Found you all on rumble. Woohoo. 20 bucks. We appreciate it so much, dude. And Sean the chauvinist Tyler, we all talked about it a bit. My kids are locked out of all streaming apps and social media. Homeschooling is hard, but having the kids that focused on kids stuff, playing outside, etc, friendship, that's.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think that's awesome. Because first off, educating your child every day actually takes about two to three hours. The re. School is I. We went into this whole thing, schools actually set up. Public schools I believe was set up just like the roads. Quote. Don't quote me. I believe that Nazis actually started public school or the idea of taking your children out of the home so everyone could go to work. So it's almost like a public babysitting service where they actually teach your kids while they're there, since they're there for eight hours. We grew up in a society where you go to school for eight hours, and then you come home with three hours worth of homework. And our parents never said a damn word about it. This generation now, parents are like, my kids at school for eight hours, Especially post Covid. You're not gonna send them home. I. I've seen Covid showed everybody how unimportant public education actually was. Oh, your kids only got to come here for two hours online. And he still progressed the same he would if he was eight hours there all day. So you don't learn like public, like homeschooling is teaching your kids, like fishing mechanics outside playing with their friends. Like, those are all things that are incorporated in your own belief system of how you want your kids to be raised. The schooling part is like two to three hours, maybe a day. That's insane to me. And our kids go there for eight hours a day and we. They have all these state tests and all these pressures. I just grounded my 13 year old last night because he knew he had an assignment. He knew he had an assignment. I asked him about it five days ago. He goes, I have five days to complete it. I go, okay. And today, yesterday, I asked him about. He goes, oh, I turned it. I can't turn it in late. It's a zero. I'm like, out of a hundred, it's a zero. So he got punished. And I, I told him, I was like, dude, I don't give a. About what you're learning in school. I care that you blew off the assignment because when you get a job, I don't care about the pizzas you deliver. I care about you delivering the pizzas. That's what I care about. Like, that's you. It's your only job. So you could forget everything when you graduate. I could give a. I don't believe in public school system, but I do believe in personal responsibility. And you were supposed to do that. So at the end of the day, school sucks.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I mean, and. And you know, part of the conditioning is to. I think it's a money grab, is to make people go to college so that they spend more money when reality. I think we're back. We're to the point now in America where you have engineer degrees and this degree and that, to be walking around, they're trying to get his third job to pay off student loans. When teach a kid to be a plumber, an electrician, something, you know, in that field, you're never a mechanic. You're never going to get rid of those people. And it's. But we're not that's not cool. That's not college. You're not educated. Like, okay, well, all right, let me tell you this.

[Mike]

What I tell my kids also is that there, I believe there are two types of people professionally. There's ones that don't have a. I'm gonna choose my wording carefully because one's not better than the other. But there's someone that wants to live for something and wants to have a meaningful life and give back. And then there's people that just want to enjoy a family and want to have a great job, great career, great benefits and want and family. And they have no need to do something like extravagant with their life. So the people that feel the need to fill a purpose. A purpose, they're the ones that go into first responder work. The military, they take all these jobs where regular people are like, I'm not doing that, like, I have nothing to prove. I want to get a job with this Geico insurance company and I want to make my way up the ranks and retire at 20 years and have a nice house and a stable family. No ptsd, no bad qualities that I picked up through all this. We go through and my children are healthy and we live like to leave it to Beaver, Pickett Fence style family. That's awesome. And I, I wish that for my kids, but some people just have it. I had it when I was a teenager. I'm gonna do something that's not normal like that. I don't care what it is, it's not going to be a normal job. I want to give back. I want to have purpose with my life. And you were probably the same way. That's why we, we go from the military to law enforcement is because we're just trying to fill a purpose. And then we get into this stuff. We're still filming.

[Tyler]

But your mind is good. Because where I know your mind is good is where I feel like I'm at is that after doing it for even 10 years, 20, it's like, I can move on from that now. Now I just want to be with my family. I just want to hang out with the dogs. I don't need. And that. You're right, it's an addictive lifestyle. That first responder, that adrenaline when you're. When I was in it, I want to do all these. I want to go to the bar and drink. I wanted to be popular. I wanted to. But as it faded and I matured a little bit. Now I go like sitting on the couch with the dogs or taking a walk, walking the dogs at night with my wife or going to the dog park. Like, the silliest things you would think, like, are so boring. They are. They're very meaningful. And it's very peaceful. That. And then it's admirable for people to do that. Like, you might never know a dude his whole life. Like I say plumber, electric, whatever the job may be, he spends time with his family, they do whatever. XYZ just navigates life and that's it. And, and there's nothing wrong with that. But we're conditioned to think we have to either be superheroes or we have to go get some piece of paper to do some extravagant job that, you know, this crazy whatever. When in reality it's like, ma', am,

[Mike]

dude, I'll tell you what to go off of what you said about the blue collar stuff. You can live your life chasing the dream of being an airborne Infantry, Ranger Sniper, Seal, Delta 4, Special Forces, Chuck Norris, you know, soldier or super cop, swat, you know, fire, raging firefighter. Like, you can live your life or you can go graduate high school, get an apprenticeship at one of the things that are never going to go away. Plumbing, electricity, air conditioning, something like that. Work that job for 10 years while you save, open up your own company and be a millionaire by 35 years old. Yep, a millionaire. Like that. Millionaire.

[Tyler]

I want to read something from Patreon, a message. I'm not gonna say who it is, but this is something that we haven't even had a chance to talk about. But I agree, this is. He said, I just updated my subscription when I found out. I've listened every day since Tyler and Mike started after Brent left. I like to preface with this that, that this is a Lao military, first responder and blue collar show because of the topics, atmosphere and culture you guys have built. But I'm wondering if you guys have any interest in covering a little bit more of the blue collar stuff. And he goes on to talk about that. So the reason I bring that up is we would like that the contributor or somebody that can come on the show be the regular guy. Because what he said to me, to me in that message was what we're talking about, even though we're cops and first responder is the shop talk that he hears on the floor of the factory. Just the regular everyday dudes that aren't cops, aren't military are talking about the same things we are. And he was. What he was getting at was because we're marketed as first respond and we do throw a blue collar in, but Obviously our, our background is what it is. I think it'd be good to get like another like a blue collar, regular worker type person that comes on, talks, whatever, but he, it just led me to believe that we're, we're all the same. These dudes are out there in the shop. Not cops, not first responders. They are talking about things the same way we are and in the same manner we are, are. They just don't know we exist.

[Mike]

And yeah, and I think a lot of people know me and you are the type of cops. I remember I, I was riding with my dad once when I was a kid. We were at, it was at night, I was doing a ride along. I was probably like 13 back then. It was wild, dude. I could ride getting car chases with my dad. And we, I did too, but my

[Tyler]

dad was running from the cops

[Mike]

and we pulled into a gas station. I was doing a ride along and he got a bunch of coffee and he got a big jug of, he bought like a big like igloo style like Gatorade thing. And like this whole thing, I'm like, is this for your shift? And he goes, no. And we go to the construction workers and he bought him all coffee. And we got back in the car, he's like, I could never work all night long in the cold like that. I could never do it. He goes, I'm too much of a, I could never do it. He's like, these guys are out here in the cold doing construction. We all make the same, there's just things. And I was like, man, that, that, like, as a kid, that impacted me a lot. Like that's my dad showing me vulnerability in the sense, like I'm not some super cop. Like, he's like, these guys are real men out here. Like, and that's fixed.

[Tyler]

You know, when Izzo said cops have the easiest. And obviously that thing went crazy. It's not the easiest job. But I, I, I understand. What he was saying is like, I would not, I wouldn't want to be. Imagine being a mover like all day long. You pick people's up, load it into a truck and drive it. Like, there's no way. I'd be homeless. I'd be homeless. I'm not doing it. Like, there's no way. There's just no way. You know, I was a kid, I cut, you know, moved to Florida, I cut grass and that kept me in good shape, but, you know, I cut grass. I ran an edger weed eater outside, 3, 000 degrees out. And you're like, bro, there's miserable dude.

[Mike]

Here's the difference between a blue collar guy, your average blue collar guy that wants to take care of his family and is a humble dude versus your Delta forces, Ranger, Navy Seal, sniper. Is that of course, every special operations soldier or a lot of soldiers in general? I could tell you how many times I froze my nuts off for an extended period of time and I hated it. But at the end of the day, you get the bragging rights of like, oh, I went into the water for this long when I was freezing. You don't know what cold is. I jumped into this area and didn't have a blanket for three days, you know. And they get the bragging rights. With the career. You hear a guy that does that every single night for six months out of the year and he goes home with his thermos to his family and all he does is want to raise his kids.

[Tyler]

Like, there's a plane factory here in Vero Piper. I got a buddy, one of the first dude I ever worked out with when I joined the gym. He goes to work at like 1am every night. Works till like 9am for like 20 years, dude. All night, overnight in a factory, every single day. Doesn't complain, has a nice house, fam. It's just like, I wouldn't want to ever do that ever. I can't think, like. And then you're right. Construct, like drive home from the studio and there's all Those dudes on 95, two miles straight pouring asphalt at 1am midnight. It's like it's a thousand degrees on the street. They're out there in shovels and asphalt. The smell is miserable. And they're just regular dudes that drove out there, pulled on the side of the road, threw a vest on and now they're out there, there all night. I would. Dude, you couldn't pay me a million dollars to go do that. Like, no, that. And I respect those dudes, man. Like, they hold, they hold it together without the roads. Like, we're not getting anywhere.

[Mike]

So. And I. Dude, you want to see camaraderie? Military mechanics and shop workers, like mechanic, like guys that work on vehicles or planes or whatever like that actually work like shifts like at night. Like in the military, there's a lot of shops that are open 247 and they have to work night shift because that, they work on aircraft. Especially like in, in Iraq, there was the, the, the shot. Can you hear me? Are you just.

[Tyler]

Yeah, I'm good. Whenever that happens, I can hear you. It's just a picture.

[Mike]

The shop guys were at night, man. I go in there and kick it with them and they are like blue collar dudes. You're like, I don't even feel like I'm in the military anymore. I'm in here and a platoon full of divas, alpha males, like, no one can get along. Everyone's a prick. And an. And you go into the shop and these gearheads are doing everything besides drinking Modelos and blasting music like they're having a great time. And they have all the camaraderie in the world because they're humble and they're not egotistical like me.

[Tyler]

All right, we gotta.

[Mike]

Ready to go to Patreon?

[Tyler]

Yeah. Let me figure out how to end this.

[Mike]

We don't end it yet, guys, if you haven't already. No, I, I.

[Tyler]

Okay, go ahead, tell me you want to tell them.

[Mike]

It's already mad again.

[Tyler]

I can't figure out how to turn it off. I think I got it.

[Mike]

Throw your computer across the room to probably turn it off. Go to Patreon. Patreon Tuesday. Part two is up in there only obviously, part one's for everybody. And part two, I mean, we're gonna talk about the rumble, the all the other that's been going on, what Nick's doing right now currently, hopefully he's gonna jump on and brief us on that. It's a good time. It's a lot more crowd interactive because it's obviously, it's fewer people, but still a good time. But we encourage you guys to go to our Patreon sign up and then click. For all of you boomers out here that can't figure it out, click it. And the image of the thumbnail, of this thumbnail is going to take you to the YouTube. You click that and then most likely on your phone, you just go to an hey, click it. I want to watch this in the external browser and it's going to take you to the YouTube app. Bada Bing, bada boom. But I had two people complain that they couldn't get to it.

[Tyler]

The link in Patreon, it'll pop up. We'll start playing. In the bottom right of the Image is a YouTube button. You just click the YouTube button. It takes you.

[Mike]

Yeah, don't comment in Patreon. Take it. Because what it is, it's a private link to YouTube. So it's still YouTube, but it's private. So only Patreon people that click the link in Patreon can see it. And if you're commenting on the Patreon app. We can't see it. So you got to go to the YouTube watch it just like you are watching now. If you're on Rumble, it's going to be a YouTube thing and comment on there but other that man. Guys, thank you so much for joining us. Sorry I was late picking up Heather.

[Tyler]

I'm gonna attempt to end the show correctly. Let's see if it works.

[Mike]

Jv team for life.