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We are live on the Anti Hero broadcast and we have a hell of a show for you. We have the. Is it Carmelo Anthony? Not Anthony. Carmelo. He's a basketball player.
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Yes.
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C
He's not the one that's arrested though.
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Carmelo Anthony case. A nation divided. We got a couple great guests. Stick around. It's gonna be a good time.
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We're here. Patreon. I was live on Patreon before the show. We'll be live on Patreon later. So stick around for this great show here.
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At the entire broadcast, we'll say what you can't the information provided by the speakers and presenters on the entire broadcast platform is for general informational and entertainment purposes only. Information does not represent the broadcast network and all entities involved. All information is provided in good faith. However, we make no representation or warranty of any kind, express or implied regarding the accuracy, adequacy, validity, reliability, availability or completeness of this information. Hurt feelings is not defamation. Team for life Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. It is Tuesday,
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June 10, Wednesday, June 10.
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The anti air broadcast is the news entertainment broadcast for veterans, first responders and all blue collar Americans. We go live Monday through Friday, 1pm Eastern Standard Time on YouTube, Facebook and X. So if you can give us a like and a subscribe. Tell the algorithm we don't suck. This show is brought to you by ghostbag. Go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero Save 10 on their already ridiculously low prices, pillowcases, mattress toppers, cooling patented technology sheets and their award winning mattresses. 60000 plus 5 star rating and reviews in house customer service and free shipping on those big ass mattresses. So if you got to replace something in the bedroom. Go to ghostbed.com forward/ansave10 I'm telling that we sent you and Elevated silence. Go to elevated silence.com use promo code ANTIRE15. Save 15 on your suppressor. They have cans from everything from 22s to 50 cows. Exercise your second amendment right, get yourself a can. The process is not that hard and Jim will walk you through it.
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And don't forget our Patreon. I was live on Patreon before the show. I was eating wieners, eating cheese. So tune into our Patreon join and that is where it goes down. We'll probably be live this weekend. We do pop up live shows, group chats that are only exclusives on Patreon. They're such good shows. We have to delete them from Patreon once they're done because there's Some wild folks in the Patreon can't be on the Internet. Can't be on the Internet. And don't forget to check out the 99% app. Go to the antiheroapp.com that is where the OGs of the network have moved over to start our own social media network is really what it is. It's like our own version of Instagram. We're just about to be able to go live on there. But we do private giveaways, interacting videos, posting all the cool stuff happens in the anti her app. So go to the antohoapp.com and be cool like the 99 cent.
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C
Does that not show you the confidence I have in my manhood that I eat glizzies live on Patreon with no bun?
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A
Why do you call them Glizzy?
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C
That's the name. Glizzies. Oh, Glizzy.
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A
I guess it's better than meat. Hey Meat.
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C
We were, when I was in, I was in SWAT school and we went to Camp Landing and they had the truck would come out for lunch and we had every. Nobody would get the glizzy. It was like burger and somebody was just waiting in line like go ahead dude, grab that big ass sausage. It was like this big and it was the worst. It was like water flavored sausage. It was the worst military saw. But one dude finally grabbed it like, hey man, you look pretty good eating that glizzy, man. Like that's pretty big. That's a pretty big sausage. So from that point forward, nobody got a glizzy.
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A
Unfortunately, there's a lot of great foods that you cannot eat as a man. Like popsicles, apparently. Ice cream cones. Now we can't eat. You gotta bite into the ice cream. That's insanity.
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C
Yeah, bite it. Bite into the ice cream. Bite into the glizzy. This carnivore is pretty good man. It's pretty easy. I like it.
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A
I'm good. I just ate McDonald's.
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C
Oh yeah. So I can come out with McDonald's.
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A
But yeah, going back to the app and the Patreon, obviously the app is where it all happens. But for. For people that don't really know a lot about us or anything like that, Patreon's a good place to get started. Five and ten dollar tiers and, you know, you get to know us a little bit better outside of the shenanigans on Instagram and Facebook. But yeah, it's what, bouncing around, huh?
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C
The mouse is just bouncing around. He's got the same ADD I got, so it's hard for me to look over there. Yeah, the Patreon is cool because I think that's different than most broadcasts are podcasts, right. Where you actually interact with the audience. In Patreon, we, yeah, like serious interaction. Not none of this, like, hey, we're great. Like, we're letting them on. I guess they were doing some salute or something. They're doing all kinds of crazy stuff. They got their own deli, I guess they hang out in. But how many people can say, I think, and I think that speaks volumes to you as well as what your vision of this is, is how many people would start a network and then make it about everybody else that's wearing what you've done. It's, it's, it's. Without them and out, without that interaction, it's just a bunch of idiots talking about whatever. Now you get these guys involved. We got guys that were in our network as fans now with their own shows on the network. And I think it shows what this, what it's about. Like the 99.
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I think it's cool, man. A lot of these guys obviously use aliases publicly, but, you know, you build that trust with everybody in the, in the Network and the 99 and you know, they'll, you know, they'll, they'll show you their face and stuff. They don't really need to be on the Internet.
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C
We have a Muppet running against me for sheriff. We have an entire account of a Muppet that was riding a boat yesterday on a video. And then I saw a race car video today with two NASCARs racing, and I'm on one hood and he's on the other. So we just. That, like, that type of humor is to me, goes back to before memes. I go back long enough when we used to have to like cut pictures out and run them through a photocopier and then like hanging on the board. So these guys are like, obviously with AI and everything they got going on, but it's just that group of guys. It's like, it's always funny. It's like being around. And some of them weren't in the military, but it's like being around the old guys in the military back in the barracks or, you know, in. Back in the good days of law enforcement when everybody got in the station and made jokes and had a good time, it's that 24 hours a day you can't sleep with these guys.
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Definitely full of toxic masculinity, that's for sure. For a lot of love. All right, let's hit the first topic. The main topic of the evening is the Carmelo Anthony trial. And helping us dive into that, we have an alumni from anti hero, Mr. Alex Duncan. How you doing? Can you hear us?
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D
Yes, sir. How you doing?
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A
Good.
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C
All good on the first try?
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A
Yeah, first try, man. No audio problems. That's awesome. So you've been on Antire before. You were explaining how you grew. You know, you were, you were a cop in Malibu. We were cracking on you for that. Those are some good times. You moved to Texas and now you have a, you have a company called Patriot Pouch, which from what I understand is tobacco free nicotine.
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D
Correct. It's a tobacco nicotine free nicotine alternative. Even though it's an alternative, we use a nicotine analog. So it works very similar to nicotine. You get that same buzz you're expecting. But the, you know, the best part about it is it's non vasoconstrictive, so it's not going to mess with your heart. You're not going to get an increased heart rate, increased blood pressure. So it's the best of both worlds. You get that nicotine buzz and help you focus.
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C
But all the fun stuff is gone. Right? All, all the good stuff is out of it.
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D
But no, it's been great. A lot of people, it's helped a lot of people that had to get off nicotine because of health issues. So they're still getting that same buzz they wanted from the nicotine, just without, you know, messing with their heart.
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A
All right. Yeah. If you don't know, I've made it an inside joke starting this morning that I spell at least one thing wrong on every chiron that we do. Huh? I actually spelled somebody's name wrong once. That wasn't on. That wasn't by accident. That was on purpose. He spelled his name super weird and I spelled it common spelling. And he's like, you spelled my name wrong.
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I was like, ah.
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But yeah, let's get into the, the Texas thing, the, the trial I don't understand, but I should understand is the amount of division that this case has started. People throwing lobs back. The courthouse has. Right. Like borderline violence outside. It's become a race war type thing, in my opinion.
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C
Yeah, it's.
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D
Yeah, it's one of those things that shouldn't have been at all. I mean, you look at this case, it's. It's two juvenile kids and race had nothing to do with it. It wasn't like a black kid went out to kill a white kid or a white kid went out to kill a black kid. They just happen to be white and black. But I mean, this is a problem with society. You see these people protesting outside the courthouse saying that, you know, I wish that. I wish Carmelo would have killed the other brother too. This is injustice. Like, what are we supposed to tell our children? Well, tell your children not to stab anybody. How about that? Tell them not to bring a knife to attract me. How about that? So it's like, it's just sad as a country to see that this, they're turning this into a race thing when it has nothing to do with race.
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C
It's actually a lot milder than I thought. I was expecting worse. Well, you.
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A
We were expecting, honestly, we were expecting to have to do an emergency broadcast yet last night to cover the riots that we assumed were going to happen. But I honestly feel like people in their bones deep down know this is murder, but it's just, it's ammo that they're using to spread against the division, which is, you know, I saw some things like people were saying, George Zimmerman, not guilty. Kyle Rittenhouse, not guilty. There was another one that was pretty infamous. Not guilty. And then Carmelo crying guilty there does.
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C
It doesn't apply.
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They're not the same case.
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D
Exactly. And you know what? It probably would have been a lot worse if this case was in like California, if this was in Los Angeles. There probably would have been some bigger issues, but since it was in Texas, it probably calm some things down because he knew what was going to happen.
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Yeah, that's true.
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It's, it's, it's. I think what's unfortunate is it takes away from, almost takes away from the tragedy that it is. I, again, I don't care what color anybody is a 17 year old kid. Two 17 year old kids got into it. Somebody stabbed somebody. That's. That's the real issue. And it should be. That's where I go. Just put the blinders on for a second and say, it like that a 17 year old kid gotten a shoving match, which all, all kids do, and stabbed another kid, that's 17. One family loses a twin brother, family's destroyed. And this kid, family's destroyed obviously, like his family cares about him, they want him in prison. So I don't even understand why the race comes into this conversation. It is a tragedy every which way.
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A
I don't either.
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C
And it shouldn't.
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It's.
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I wish we could get past these things and because I believe we would be able to dive deeper into a lot of these incidents about if they're crimes or what kind of crimes they are, if the race thing wasn't such a factor in it. Because bad people deserve to go to prison regardless. And I think we would investigate them probably better if in the back of somebody's head they're going, oh man, if we convict this guy or don't convict this guy, this is going to happen. Well, that takes away from the actual justice of the case and puts it on an issue that's not, should not be relevant. It shouldn't be relevant. X is this color and X is that color. And who did it should be this person did this, this person did that. Let's give it the best view and best investigation so that the right thing, right outcome happens. And when you throw that in there and there's fear of everything it takes away from it.
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Yeah, exactly. And especially with these jurors now, I mean you can't say you have an unbiased jury with what's going on with social media. Everybody knows what's happening. It's not, it's not like back in the day where you could sequester a jury and they're not hearing anything that's coming out. And now these jurors though, they get concerned themselves like, oh well if, you know, if I, you know, if I vote, you know, if I decide to cast a guilty vote, you know, these riots could start or something else. Like what we saw with Chauvin, Derek Chauvin, that that guy didn't have a fair trial and with his jury because they're all too concerned with what was going to be if they found him innocent.
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Well, yeah, what I saw that they said Derek Chauvin found not guilty. But was that on like the initial murder charge or something like that?
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C
He didn't get the first, the big murder.
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Okay.
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He got the but. Which I think never should go on the table anyway. I always said it should have been some type of neglect and that, that, listen, that goes right down my same argument is maybe he would. And I know he got a lot of time, so I'm gonna say this hypothetically, but maybe he gets under punished for a lesser offense because they focus so hard on murder, which again, I'll never say he set out to kill him. I think he was negligent. And that's. We've argued that a billion times. But if the focus would have been on the negligence and more trial put into that, maybe that outcome is better for everybody. But when you try to convict somebody for murder, when it's saying it was an intentional act versus it was negligent act again. And race played a factor in that. They knew, hey, if we don't charge this guy with like first degree murder, we're going to be behind the right of the rip. We're going to have riots and all this stuff which happened anyway. But I think that takes away from the overall justice of a case and sometimes could lead to under punishment. So it's, it's, it's bad all around.
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I heard something freaking crazy. So yesterday. This is the craziness of the world. This is my, this is when I say like Black Lives Matter is a domestic terror. Terror organization in my opinion is a, in a. And they're fraudulent because what they do with their money is not going to help black communities that are underprivileged or in poverty. They took it and they did what they did. They bought houses and stuff. And I saw something that said what happened to the almost $1 million raised in the GoFundMe for Carmella Anthony? Now this has not been verified by any means, but it's on Instagram. So therefore, imagine getting a nose job instead of a lawyer with your son's GoFundMe money. Now does. I don't know if she's maybe doing a different face or it's photoshopped already. Photoshopped.
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C
But I can't. No, I can't.
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D
Yeah, I don't know about the no stuff, but I know they moved. They moved to a new house.
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C
They did.
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They moved to a new house right away in a gated community. Bought an Escalade right away after this GoFundMe money came in. And you know, I kind of made a joke yesterday on X. I said, well, you know, they ended up. The parents got what they want. Another all living in a gated community. Kamara is going to be locked up and they got their a nice house off of what they raised for him.
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And here's the thing, dude. I mean, I guess like you don't. Oh, you know, nobody owes me as a person anything. Right. An explanation. But if it was explained to me, hey, we use the, the money to move into a house that was gated and more secured because of the, the, this trial. I was worried. Okay, you're explaining why you use the funds for that.
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C
I don't know. I mean, this is America. They don't have to really tell you why. Exactly.
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A
They don't hurt me anything.
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Yeah, it's just public perception.
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I mean, it's always going to look bad. But again, I don't know, it's, it's just unfortunate that, you know, why, why would your son go right to violence of stabbing somebody over a pushing match too? Like, man, that should be a conversation well ahead of time. It's a horrible, horrible situation for everybody
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D
involved when they're making that self defense claim. Like you got a lot of people outside the courthouse. Oh, it was self defense. Like if you're going to try to make that argument that a soft little push is worthy of now killing somebody, you guys have lost your minds.
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C
Well, what if, then, then let's bring the police into it.
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D
Yeah, exactly.
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Police officer, is it Shoot him. That's what I'm saying. You have to be very careful when you navigate that and go, well, you pushed him in self defense. Okay, well you, this guy pushed a cop to get away and the cop shot him. You're not gonna, that's not gonna fly anywhere around. You have to be very careful how you, how you word those things.
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Yeah. And at the end of the day, man, it's it, it goes down. Like, I mean, when we grew up, I mean fighting is bad, but fighting's fighting. You don't expect to get stabbed at a, at a, a heated ride. How many high schools have fights because of a rivalry at a football game? Like, you should not have to worry about being stabbed in a pushing match. That's insanity.
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C
We shouldn't have to worry about stabbed anywhere. But yeah, yeah, high school tracking.
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I think the last thing. Well, there's places around where you know not to go.
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C
Even if they got in a fistfight, I would expect that. Like rival teams, rival heated track meet. Like it's very competitive and it's men, right? Testosterone, young men, they're, they're all worked up. So it's like, okay, but never would you think a knife is going to be interviewed, reduced in that situation.
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Exactly.
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So it's unfortunate that again it's, I think it's been, like I said, I thought it was going to be worse than it is, you have to expect some reaction. But overall I will say right as it sits right now, it hasn't been as bad as I thought. And for a tragedy, that's probably the best thing I can say about it is so far nothing crazy has happened, right?
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D
Yeah, I think the radicals, of course you're gonna have the radicals just like that were out in front of the courthouse. But deep down I would say most people that have common sense could look at it and be like, look, he got what he deserved. He was guilty. It is what it is.
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I even see people that are pretty coming out on Facebook. Dominic Izzo even came out and he's pretty. What would you call that?
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C
Controversial.
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Controversial. He calls it like he sees it, doesn't care who gets offended by it. And he even said, you know, these white Christian conservatives out here throwing it in the face, that's not the right thing to do. If people don't want it both ways. If it's, if it's a trial, it's a trial. If it went your way, that's great. If it didn't go your way for
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whatever reason, I think it's a good, that's a good analogy is because it's the family of that young man, Carmel is destroyed. Right.
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He's going to prison.
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And nowhere in this case did it and I haven't followed it that close, but it didn't seem like what if he really thought he was, was hypothetically he really believed he was in danger and he was self defensed. I'm not justifying it, but let's say he did and that's what he says. I, I thought I was in danger. I. You. That family's destroyed. And it's. Is it anybody else's responsibility to mock that family for their son going to prison and all that. So it's, it is, it's an ugly back and forth. I think it goes into politics. I want. The left gets mad, says things to the right. The right says this bad. It seems like everybody has to make aha or, or a big spectacle out of a tragedy. That's my biggest argument. And that's a tragedy.
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A
That's a good point too. Now I'm sure we'll, I'm sure based off his content we'll. Our next guest, Patrick, we'll talk a little bit about him with this. But the, the world we're setting up this youth in, I mean that kid high school was I guess taught this is the good person to me coming out the values that he Was taught as a teenager to stab someone in the chest. Like, that kid's life is over. Like you. Like you said, a family's now ruined. Now one kid's dead too. That's even more awful. But I mean, it's just.
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C
It's a. It's difficult. It's very difficult to, like, I don't know, as an out, especially as an outsider, like, I can see where the family of the deceased would be. Like, okay, somewhat their emotions are. Are allowed. If they're not gonna say they're happy, they're never going to be happy. But do they feel like justice was served? I've watched a lot of trials, we've watched documentaries where the family feels like that's all they have is some type of justice being served. As an outsider completely. Do I want to go. I want to see a kid get 99 years in prison now, too? It's like, I mean, what is the right number? What is the right. Some poor judge is going to be on the hook for that decision coming up. It's gonna. That may be the difference in when things get really ugly and. And how long it is.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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D
They ended up giving him. They ended up giving him 35 years.
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C
Holy moly.
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Wait, wait. They already did a. They already did the.
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C
Is that this morning?
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D
They sentenced in yesterday afternoon.
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C
I didn't heard about it. 35 years.
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35 years for second degree murder. Shake.
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D
Yeah, he'll. But he'll probably get out in half. And so, yeah, I mean, probably the. Probably the best thing he could have got because he was facing up to 99. So. Yeah, kind of right in the middle of that.
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A
How's Texas? What is Texas? I mean, so the courthouse, right. How far are you away from that county?
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D
I'm about like an hour from that county. So that count. That county's just kind of northeast of
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Dallas area and is in. In that county. Is the courthouse kind of like a. A public arena? Is. Or is. Is all of that county kind of going through that? Because I've noticed that too. Is that when the news, like especially these ICE incidents right on the streets of whatever state and there's a shooting and they. They make it seem like it's a war zone, but it's literally just one intersection where all these problems are coming. You have a shooting over there. You have ICE agents taking down people over there. It's literally within 100 yards. And the rest of the cities kind of normal. And I didn't know if that was like the courthouse being the epicenter of all this controversy in this news coverage.
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D
Yeah. The courthouse is it that. That was the only thing going on. But that whole area right now has got a bunch of issues. You got a bunch of protests going on because it's a very big Indian Islam population over there. You got a lot of Hindus Muslims congregating and taking over city council. So there's been anti that protests kind of kicking off weekly. So that whole Collin County's got a lot of issues over there.
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A
All right, well, again, I appreciate you coming on, dude. I'm excited to try Patriot Pouch. I need to get off the tobacco side of it.
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B
I'm rooting for you, man.
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C
Yeah, you need to.
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A
I do.
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D
This will definitely help you.
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A
Is there. Is there any way we could. Can I put you on the spot and ask for an antihero promo code?
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D
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do Anti Hero 10 for.
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A
For 10 off Anti Hero 10. So if you guys want to try it out, help support out Alex in his and the small business. Anti hero 10. Go get yourself an order. Patriot Pouch. And yeah, we'll have you on again, man. I'm sure this trial is not over. So.
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D
Yeah, there's more to come for sure.
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A
All right, man, be safe.
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D
All right, thanks, brother. Have a good one.
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A
All right, later. All right, guys, we're going quick commercial break. We'll be right back with our next guest, Patrick Carr. Yeah.
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E
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C
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A
Yep. All right, so our next guest is about.
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C
It's four feet taller than Tyler. I know Tyler wasn't happy when he walked in. He was. We can get that off.
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A
All right, so there is a camera just for. This is Eli's first time producing with a guest in the middle. It just for the guest. I'll let you go do a round robin, Eli, and find it. No, no, no, no.
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C
Don't move.
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Just start clicking the button.
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C
Buttons.
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Not that one. Not that one.
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C
No.
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There you go.
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C
Look at that.
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So that one's just for Patrick.
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C
You're really on the gun, Eli. You can have the three cameras now.
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A
Yeah. You got all kinds of people in here. They're shooting their own media. So again, I came across your stuff we're pretty critical about. We obviously don't really dive into local. I was law enforcement locally here. But you 100%, using Orlando as an example, have nailed the political problems, starting with the city going to Orlando police and all the problems that are caused by simply not enforcing basic laws for an entire city to be able to enjoy its city, specifically downtown.
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B
Yeah. And I'm sure that you all talk about it on this show, but it's that broken windows theory.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And that has happened in downtown Orlando. And everybody can see it. You walk down the streets of Orlando anywhere between 11pm and 2am or should you say 10 to 2 Thursday through Sunday. You don't want to Be there with your family. And because they've allowed a lot of things to slip, they don't know exactly what to do to bring it back. And I think that law enforcement feels like their hands are tied.
- [28:06]
C
Yeah.
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B
And I don't feel like they feel like they've got a leadership that's behind them right now. And what's happened is that they're in kind of this no man's land where it's, hey, listen, I don't want to screw anything up. I'd rather just go ahead and be over here, not screw it up. Then get involved with something, even if I'm in the right, and get involved with it, and then, you know, end up, I don't know, on the front page of a paper with somebody that doesn't support me at the top. Because everybody that I've been talking to, when we get these DMs from OPD, it's been good people who I think want to do things the right way.
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A
Are you talking about officers?
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B
Yes.
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C
Oh, wow. So, yeah, it's a huge problem. Right? The cops want to do cop work.
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B
Yes.
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C
But they're. When. They're. When they're scared to do cop work, it's a huge problem. And then I. I kind of deal with it, too. You get off the interstate, some places, there's homeless, there's trash, and you're just like, why are we allowing this? Right.
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A
Why.
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C
Why would you let that happen? You wouldn't do it in your house. Nope. But you're going to let the city do it. And that, I think that is what you're getting at, is just, somebody has to clean this up.
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B
So I get the question quite a bit now. What would you do about it? And they say, well, you can't arrest all these people. And I look at it this way. You made me mayor of Orlando, let's say today. I would say, hey, listen, guys, we're going to start arresting that. And you know what? The jails are going to get a little bit overrun for a small amount of time. But here's what I do understand. When I pull up there and the police pull behind me, that guy stops doing what he was doing at the traffic light for a reason. Regardless of the. What he thinks or what's going through his head, maybe mental illness. He knows I don't want to go to jail. That is a language that everybody understands. And I think of that. If we empower police officers down there to do their job and say, hey, listen, we're going to stand behind you, it's crazy talk.
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A
Oh, gosh, imagine that.
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C
Well, they're passing the buck too. I don't know if you realize that the state passed a law that you have to. In order to arrest the people on the right of ways, the city or county has to have a place for them to go. So, like, our county doesn't. Where I live, Indian river county, does it. So I sit there, I get off the interstate every time I drive home, and there's a guy with trash all over our beautiful corner there with a sign he can't even spell right. I took a picture of it, but he's got a sign. I'm like, what do we do do about this? And that's where the buck is getting passed, where the governor passes a really cool law that says, oh, well, we'll get rid of all of them. We'll just build a facility. But you can't enforce this until the facility is built. And the county's like, well, we don't have the money to build a facility. So it's like, you're right back to the basics are we can't allow these people to sit on the corner. We have to take them to jail, give them a stop, go somewhere else. Can't have it, right?
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B
And it's not what anybody wants, but it's a situation that we're in right now in the greater Orlando area. I talk a lot about Orlando and Orange county. And one of the differences I try to tell people is a lot of times what these. The city of Orlando will do is in order to disguise things, they will wrap it into central Florida. They'll say, it's a Central Florida problem. No, it's not. It's an Orlando problem. And then they'll wrap it into the numbers gal. Comforu. Seminole County, Lake County, Osceola, get wrapped in there. And it disguises what's going on in the city of Orlando right now.
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C
When do you think it. When did it really get bad, in your opinion?
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B
I think. I think after that shooting in 2024.
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C
Okay.
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A
I think downtown, Broad Broad, downtown with tons of people and the.
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C
I remember coming to Orlando years and years ago and those bike patrol guys, downtown Orlando were monsters. They were monster. You saw those dudes on the bike come pull it up. You were like, okay, here comes the OPD bike guys. They're gonna get. I've seen them get after it at bars.
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B
Me too.
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F
Corners.
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C
And I'm like, these guys are taking no prisoners.
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B
They're.
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C
They're taking all the prisoners they're not holding Back. And then all of a sudden now seems like we've gone the other way where there's. They're not allowed to do that anymore.
- [31:30]
B
Agreed. And what I. I think after that shooting in 2024, the city comes down. And right as that shooting goes down, they were doing their camera operation, drug bust within all the bars because they thought that's where the problems were at. And when I talk to these bar owners, like we've had on my show, we got more coming on next week. What they're telling me is they're hitting us with fees. They're saying that we're the problem. But all the problems that are happening right now are happening outside of the entertainment district, in the streets.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And when you go to OPD and you ask them these questions, which is, why don't you stop the loitering? Well, they'll say is, well, the person's not technically doing something wrong by standing there. And, you know, they don't have a Bud Light can in their hand. They've got an open, you know, solo cup. So it's very difficult to go up there and to be able to enforce the laws because the person is not technically breaking them. But the people that are paying the price are the entertainment district, the restaurants, the people downtown. Because people like me or you don't want to go down there because it's just not worth it.
- [32:28]
A
How, how much longer do you think it has before these businesses start considering their rent versus what's going on in the city?
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B
I think that we've already seen, I mean, attic, a great example of that. Now you could. People can disagree with, you know, these are good places or bad places. All right. But 16 years in business, downtown Orlando, that's a 16 year small business down there. And they closed their doors two Sundays ago. I had the owner on my show. Sixteen years, I mean, that's a long time to be running into Gil and you did. You know, I used to go there and have a few drinks myself. Yeah. And so when I see that happening, I think it's happening right now. And we're seeing these businesses close left and right. And meantime, people are paying 3,000, $3,500 for a one bedroom for rent down there. And they're asking themselves, why am I down here? And there's not, there's not an entertainment district that's there anymore.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's pretty clear in my opinion, what the city is doing. They're moving everything over to the other side, the north side of I4. They want to move it over there to the Kia Center. They want to close that area down, get that whole thing, get everyone out of there, and then move the new development over there. As you move in between your Orlando city, your Kia center and develop that area there, I think it's very clear that that's what their goal is to do.
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A
The city, the city, okay.
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B
And they're not giving these people any support. These fees are a joke that these places are paying right now. And when you look at top line revenue and what that takes off, it's, it's really hurting these bars in the entertainment district down there. So I've been, I've been critical of that.
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C
They always want to blame the bars, but that's again, that's what creates jobs, revenue. They're drinking, they're drinking over at Disney. Nobody's ever gonna stop Disney from drinking. And guess where else there wouldn't be any homeless people are loitering? Yeah, Disney. You're never gonna see it. They would drop bombs on those people to get them away from Disney. But now in downtown Orlando, it's just a bunch of bar that's like a historic place. Like that's old school Orlando.
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A
When they want to do it, they'll do it. Look at one Daytona. You remember that how one Daytona started about 12 years ago. The development plans, maybe 15 years ago, Daytona has bike week. Lots of people we know, we joke, they come and they never leave. People come by way, they get arrested, they get on drugs, they like literally. They also have the International Speedway where they do the Daytona 500, the Coca Cola 600, the Coke Zero 600. So they were having massive problems with the tourism aspect with the quote unquote Daytona homeless people. So what they did was they created an area right outside the speedway within walking distance and they gentrified everything, built a bunch, probably a billion dollars worth of businesses out there. Bass Pro Shop, all these restaurants and they heavily enfor, heavily enforce it. Because now you can go to Daytona, experience the track and not have to really, actually experience what is real Daytona.
- [35:19]
B
Yes, such a good point. It's like going to a Gator game and not getting to see actual Gainesville. Believe me, you go out, you go outside the University of Florida, you don't want to be there, believe me.
- [35:27]
A
So we have tons of blue collar guys that watch our show, tons of emerging live right now. And I saw that blue collar media and I want to know what that's about. I see that you, you already are pretty serious about the media stuff, which is really cool. So what what's blue collar media about?
- [35:47]
B
So five years ago, April 2021, I started this business. I had no idea what I was going to do. I'd never owned a camera in my life. I went to YouTube University and I had a client from a previous business that said, hey, I'll give you a shot. And so I started creating content for them with a cell phone. And Eco Restore was their name up in Jacksonville. I don't know if he's still around. And one became two, and we learned how to create content for blue collar businesses.
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A
What does that mean?
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B
So what I look at is roofers, H Vac, plumbers, electrical. If you got rough hands, basically we work with you. And what I found about a lot of these guys is it'd be 10 years into doing their business and they don't have anything to show. Like, hey, I do it the right way.
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A
The media side.
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B
Yeah, they don't want it because I found the people that know how to talk to people don't want to be in front of a piece of glass, plastic and metal. Naturally, these guys are just kind of like, nah, not me. That's not. I don't want to show off. And so what we try to do is get that camera in front of them, make them feel comfortable, tell your story, and then use that content on social media to generate business for them. Because these guys deserve people to know what they do and how hard it is. And so we get up there on the roof. My guys are out there with them. I want to be at that AC install because most media companies don't want to be out there with you. That's exactly where we want to be.
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A
Not Florida?
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B
No.
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A
You stepped outside today. It's awful. Well, so do you guys do just traditional filming and stuff like that, or do you guys actually implement? Like, if I. Here's the thing is I ever. If I ever owned a business, I would be like, hey, you know, show. Be yourself a little bit, as long as it's appropriate. But do you guys actually do, like, social media skits for organic growth, or do you guys keep it strictly professional videography and stuff like that?
- [37:39]
B
So it's. It used to be all professional video, but the market has changed now. And people, when you're scrolling through social, when you see an ad, you're like, get me past this as, quote, quick as I possibly can.
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A
We're getting fed, man. We want it. We want that feed.
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B
Yeah, give me something I'm interested in. So what we do a lot of now is basically we pretend professional is what we call it. In other words, it's professional, but we're pretending to be organic.
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A
Okay.
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B
So when you come across that it looks like somebody that you know. And so that way somebody will stop on it and we can get them in a funnel and we can start to actually generate business for these guys and people will pay attention to the work that they're doing. And so it used to be all professional. You know, we'd go and scene one, say this, scene two. But no one wants to see that anymore. Everyone's just hit so sick of ads right now.
- [38:26]
A
Especially the only. You can't organically get your ads seen anywhere on any social media platform. So everybody was like, okay, we pay to play, we'll pay. And now you're competing with everybody else paying. So.
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C
Yeah, but like you said, it's got to stand. I think the organic standout is like real people, like one of our, you know, crave. One of the ads they run is us just like talking together, like flexing. And it was completely not planned to be a commercial, but they loved it. They're like, yeah, that's organic. That's like, instead of sitting there going, hey, ladies and gentlemen, welcome. It's like, so I would be more likely to tap on something and go, well, those are dudes just being dudes. Like, let me see what they're about. So I think you're on to something there for sure.
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B
And so we go out there and we talk to these guys, we figure out what they're about, and then my guys will go out there, we film with them for a couple of days, take that content, edit it, and then we use it on social media with funnels and we have marketing campaigns. And we do that.
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A
Yeah.
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B
To generate business form. I can't tell you the number of guys who, like, I don't want to be on camera. I'm like, that's exactly the guy I want.
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F
Yes.
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B
Because he's. He's authentic. Like, he's not going to come across. I tell him, like, there's a reason the people out in LA are weirdos is because if you can talk to a piece of glass, plastic and metal, naturally you're effed up.
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C
That's me.
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B
You know, there's those guys.
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C
No.
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B
And it's like, have you been trained? No, man. I just really love talking to the camera. I'm like, oh, okay.
- [39:47]
C
Well, that's what we're finding our network is guys are like, oh, I've never been on camera. They come on, we're like, bro, you're a genius. They're like nervous. They're like, is it okay what I'm doing? I'm like, bro, just. Just be yourself. Like, you are a character. Like, that's it. And people don't realize that until maybe they see it back a few times and go, okay, yeah, I see what you. Instead of, hey, welcome, guys, welcome. And you're like, the octave and the voice is off, the movements are off. And you're just like, oh, God, I
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B
can't listen to this guy talk.
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C
But when you see an authentic dude, like you said, I'm more likely to click on that product or want to be involved in like, let me, let me learn more about this guy because he seems like a legit dude.
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B
Yeah. And that's. So that's what we do for these blue collar guys. So a lot of H Vac guys, a lot of roofing guys. And yeah, it's, it's. I guess you'd say for me, these are like, it's an underserved area because everybody wants to do athletes. Everybody wants to make a music video.
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A
Yeah. Oh, so I see what you're doing. You're doing this. You're a media company, but for people that have literally no market.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, especially, let's say, let's say you own an H Vac company, small business, really never thought to do any of this. And you go and you find a guy and he's like, oh, I. I shoot music. Music videos for $13,000 a pop. Like already you're like, I don't see how a music video is going to help me. Like, well, hold on. It's the media side of it tailored towards exactly what you do.
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C
Yeah.
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B
So you get some 21 year old. I don't mean this in a bad way, but let's just say someone who's 22, graduates from film school and great, they got a great camera and they can edit the hell out of a video. And you go hire them for an H Vac company. Do they know what to shoot? Do they know who your market is? Do they know anything about what you do? If you're going to roofer, do they know what kind of underlayment they should be capturing or what part of the build? Like, when you're trying to talk about your process and you want to show a homeowner, like, my guys, that's what we do. So it's getting out there with blue collar businesses and actually like showing the work. And I'm proud of that because nobody wants to do that. At a film school, no one wants to be on a roof for five hours.
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C
We lost. Here's what we did. And I'm going down the road. We lost that drive to the college degree.
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F
Yeah.
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C
That you had to go learn to do something in a classroom. It took away from the organic regular dudes that learn to do stuff that people actually like. Same thing I say with cops. Cops go, I can't do anything else. You're a salesman. You know how to sell bad news. You know how to sell crime. You know how to talk people out of things and change their mind about things. Same thing with this. It's like, you can't put a guy I said about sales. You can't sit a kid in school to learn about sales. Or take a dude that's been a cop for 30 years and then go sell something because he's been selling stuff, selling his whole career. So the same goes for these media companies is like, I don't want to see that. I want to see a regular dude on a roof, not, you know, some actor lady. And you're like, this lady's never swung a hammer in her life. This dude's never been on a roof in his life. I want that gritty dude that looks real, that's actually done it. And I'm 100 going, that's the guy I want. That's the guy I want right there.
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B
That guy looks like he can fix my roof.
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C
Yes.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, I want that guy to come to my house.
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A
Yeah. And sometimes, man, we've had people come on the show. He's in here and he came on and I was like, oh, we. Because what we do is we do not the broadcast so much, but we have a whole network where we get guys on. And he came on and I was like, oh, my goodness gracious. He's got seven teeth in his head and he's drunk. And it was the best time in the world. And it was like the whole time
- [43:00]
C
he's been talking, I was, I've been wanting to say, would you be willing to go film a drunk on a bike jumping a tent on fire? Yeah, he's got a tent on fire and he's gonna jump over it. But yeah, those, those organic guests, those organic interactions, those are the people that. I think we're seeing a shift in that in America that I don't want that bull crap ad, because AI is doing it too. AI is getting everybody involved in these, like, non realistic commercial situation. It's like, I don't want that. I want a real dude, talking about
- [43:28]
A
it being sexy and stuff. The job in general. Right. We went through 20 years where we told our youth that whole generation, college degrees is where it's at. And you didn't really have. There's nothing bad to say about blue collar, but it wasn't said. Right. The fact that you can go get a trade, make a lot of money, you can invest that money in yourself and guess what? Plumbing, electricity, mechanic, they're not going anywhere. Yeah, they're not going anywhere. You start your own business.
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B
Yes.
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A
And then you become a millionaire. And it's like no one tells these people, I'm talking lawn care, dude. If I, all I did was cut lawns when I was 14 years old through, when I joined the military, if somebody had said to me, sat me down and said, you know, you can create a legitimate business where by the time you're 26, you could have trucks, employees and stuff like that because guess what? Grass grows. It's, it's, yeah, a little bit competitive maybe, but like I have a T shirt company when times are tough, guess what? You got enough shirts. You don't need any more shirts. You got to mow the lawn. And I just wish that people had told me that. And I think that the blue collar, especially with these AI data centers which are over farmers, but that's a whole nother topic. But it's creating this, we've covered it this boom. And blue, blue collar life.
- [44:42]
B
Oh, absolutely. And I, I still talked about on my show that if I could go back, I mean I went to University of Florida. Biggest waste of five years of my life.
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A
Oh yeah, me too.
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B
I mean, just drinking and just carrying on. Being a bouncer at a bar, like
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A
bounce at a club through college.
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B
There was nothing one of you was
- [44:58]
C
scary to see at the bar of you is not, hey, I can hold my own dude, pick which one.
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B
But I mean I, I, I could have learned more as a line cook at Applebee's, learned at University of Florida. I would have learned more from that job in five years than I did from there. And the only thing at the time I would defend it with, well, I'm learning the network. No, I wasn't. I'll just learn to drink a little bit and have some fun. So yeah, I think there is a reversion back to that right now we see it and I think that young people, Gen Z are starting to look at it from an AI perspective into what jobs are not going to be taken by AI in the near future. And they see the writing on the wall. If I'm an engineer and going, well, I need to get involved with a roofing company, I need to do something with my skill set.
- [45:41]
C
Correct.
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B
Because working at IBM sure as hell isn't going to work.
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C
Yeah.
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B
So I think that they're seeing that right now, which is why maybe there's more of an emphasis being placed on blue collar, which I love.
- [45:50]
C
Yeah. And again, it takes money from the institutions that wanted to make all that college degree and actually is going to put it back into regular people. Because the class, what, four months, six months you're in and out of a trade school and you learn that. And then you go, like he said, if you get somebody in your head with a plan, you can go from the dude on the weed eater to the dude that runs the whole company, or you go break off and get your own company. But nobody lays that out because there's no money to be made from giving you that advice.
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B
Right.
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C
You know, there's no money to be made from helping somebody along that path. It's, oh, no, go back to school and learn how to do it. Well, that's two, three years. That cost me a lot of money to get there. And meanwhile, there's guys that just hustle and. And that. That's where I'm back to. I think we're back to hustling. And where it applies to law enforcement is my. My version of it is you. They send you to these crazy FBI academies and all these leadership.
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A
All, all.
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C
You learn the job by putting people in jail, being on the street, making contacts and interacting with people. Then you learn. That's how you really learn. You cannot teach certain things in a classroom. Like. Like what you're talking about. Blue collar work is learned by being out in there grinding.
- [46:51]
B
I really. I want to change this up, but can I ask you both the question?
- [46:54]
C
Absolutely.
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B
So you both are law enforcement, Correct? Okay. I'm just a little bit of watching the show.
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A
Right.
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B
I. I want to know your opinion about this. So here's what kind of takes off my show about a month ago. About a month ago, Anthony, Right. We get that video sent to us. OPD officer sends me a video. And this is what Fox 13 covered wedge two. And like, that's how it kind of started with the show. And he says, hey, man, I like what you're doing online. I need. This video is being basically suppressed. They've taken it down offline. I want you to put it out there because I don't appreciate this being a part of my department. And it's the video of the officers getting twerked on.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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A
Oh, yeah, we broke that one down.
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B
So I put that out there.
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A
Yeah. Oh, we played your video. Yeah, yeah, we played your video.
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B
What happens? I'm interested to know this from your. From your inside knowledge. Right. Because I. There's a part of me that I'm like, okay, first of all, I feel like it was the right thing to do for me. Okay. Because I think that. I think the rest of that department doesn't want that to be the reflection.
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A
No, it's not.
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B
And so I'm interested to know what, what's. What happens in the department behind the scenes. Like when something like that hits the. When you know is out there and everybody knows it.
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A
You want the real answer?
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B
Yeah, I want the real answer, if y' all can give it to me.
- [48:07]
A
I think that certain people as. Let's just say gender, race, orientation, all of that plays a huge part, in my opinion, for disciplinary action, for public events that happens. And I'm. That's all I'm gonna say. But I do think had them been different people. So first off, I should preface it. I don't know what happened to those guys.
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B
So I've got an idea. Right now they're under. So they are not allowed to do four months of no off duty work.
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A
Makes sense.
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B
And then they are. One of them was demoted.
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A
Okay.
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B
And the other ones are pending an internal investigation currently, right now.
- [48:46]
A
All right. That's actually pretty fair.
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C
Yeah, I would say that's probably standard. And as a. As a former that made tick tocks in uniform and thought it was cool, I can understand as I matured how bad that looks for your co workers. And you think it's just funny. You think it's just a joke. You're going to piss somebody off. And sometimes it's okay to piss some people off. Like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna take this guy to jail because he's acting like an. Well, these people are gonna be mad that that's, that's okay. But when you do something extra that is not needed by law enforcement, like making videos on duty or doing silly things, it just, it's not. It's not good. It's gonna piss somebody off. This to me, was bad. Like, I don't understand. In my head I go, I've done a lot of dumb things, but I can't imagine having a girl's butt cheeks bouncing off my head. It's in uniform and like not doing anything about it.
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A
They shouldn't have been there. There's a certain, when you're a law enforcement officer, there's a certain type of professionalism that you accept when you take that job. There's certain jobs that. Well, if a blue collar guy building the stage was building it and hit though, everyone's gonna be looking for him, like, kind of gross, but he's enjoying himself. You don't really have expected when you see the, the authority sitting there doing it and not saying that they had to hit him with the night sticks and tase him. Get off me. Get off me. But you cannot be. There has to be a. You have to give off a certain presence where this person is not gonna allow me to do that on them.
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C
That's what it shows. It shows lack, almost shows lack of the ability to do your job. Because in Little over beach, where I'm from, we had a very similar incident where a girl got on top of the hood of the police car and did the same thing. And it went viral. And everybody's watching going, why are the cops standing there watching her do this? You gotta grab her and pull. There's. Sometimes you have to grab her. She falls and breaks her arm. She falls and breaks her. You can't allow a heat. Just like we went to the very beginning of your conversation. Like, we can't allow people downtown Orlando, we can't allow human beings to stand on top of our police cars or get on top of us and put their butt cheeks on our head while we're honest.
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A
You can't do it. It might not be an anti police action, but that, it's definitely a disrespectful thing that they're doing. They're not, they're not coming up and shaking your hand and saying thank you for your service. Obviously they're not.
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C
They're shaking something.
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A
Yeah, they're. And although like I said, that's. They're not, they're not throwing things at the cops, so that's good too. But the, the level of professionalism that I've seen, it happens all the time. Those guys just got the camera shoved right in their face, which is 2026.
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C
But you gotta be. You gotta. That's what I'm saying. You have to be a little smarter than you gotta. In your bones. You gotta go, yeah, this isn't gonna look good. I, I mean, I don't know. I just.
- [51:25]
B
Did you all. I'm not sure because I wasn't here for the beginning of the show. Did you cover this Winter Garden case that's going down right now.
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C
Is that the. Which one is it? Which one?
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B
So this is Winter Garden. I was sent this one again, I don't know why I guess I'm getting these but a gentleman officer sergeant was arrested. Just recently promoted to sergeant. He is arrested for stalking. Three charges of stalking. Putting a device on a woman's. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He put a device on a woman's car at a bowling alley underneath.
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A
Wait, so an agency issued device he
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C
used to A device. I don't. I got the story right here if I want me to read it. I don't know the exact particulars, but let's see what it says.
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B
But that is one of the charges. Using. Like using whatever it is inside of the police office too.
- [52:10]
F
Oh yeah.
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C
I'm gonna imagine Winter Garden police sergeant Brian Stubbs is facing stalking charges and turned himself in on Saturday in Apopka. The charges against him specifically, he says he loses. He uses a tracking device or application without consent. The forms stalking. He put. Yeah, he put a cop. A sergeant put a device some chick's
- [52:28]
B
car in a parking bowling alley puts underneath. So a patron sees a guy underneath the car, tells the woman like, hey, call. No first calls the police. Police show up. They look at and they're like, well, there's nothing here. We're good. She goes for like about a week and has a mechanic look at the car and he's like, hey, it's right here. We're good. Finds it. And the mechanic is the one who finds this device.
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A
Can you imagine the law not, not. Not just the stalking charges and that civil lawsuit against another human being. Can you imagine the violation of your privacy from the government that just happened? Well, they just illegally found a government tracker.
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C
Yeah, but it's. It's. I think you're right. Yes, but it's. I think this is probably specific.
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A
I'm going to a gated community after that lawsuit.
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C
I think this is. Yes, but I think it's probably some type of sexual. Yeah, like he's thinking.
- [53:15]
A
One thing we do talk about is like we. We. I advocate for. For cops. And sometimes cops make really stupid decisions. Like the guys at Orlando. Do I think that those guys should be fired? No. Do I think that they should have something happen to them that will remind them never ever to do that again? And some punishment where the chief can go, I saw that. That was disgusting. And I dealt punishment. And everybody that you. That's. That you serve is like, okay, I'm good with it. That's what I want. There's a Difference between a stupid act and. Me and Mike differ on this. DUIs, domestic violence. Violence. Those things, to me are very. There's really no intent to commit a crime when we split it down the hairs. Yes, there's intentions when you get in a car drunk. Yes, there's intentions of staying in an argument where you lose your control. But, like, yeah, they're not going to be able to be a cop. But I don't think those are egregious criminal acts like this guy. This guy needs to be. Unfortunately, I'm g. Sound like that person needs to be made example of. So.
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B
Okay, I want to know your opinion about. I talked about it on my show this morning. Here is my problem. When I read the article, and I want. You guys are much more familiar with this than I am. At the end of the article, what it says is, he is now on paid administrative leave. Now, when I look at this and I go, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Who makes that decision? I hear. What I. What I get back is, this is a policy of the department now here, if people ask me, okay, what would I change if that was the case? I believe there should be an individual at the top who makes that decision, whether this person should be paid or not. So there is responsibility. Responsibility from somebody that they can't default to policy. Because when I look at this, I go, this guy's taking money right now. He's on a stalker charge. He admitted, by the way, that he did do it. He said it was a, quote, prank. That he was. He was a funny prank on the woman.
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C
Yeah, pretty funny.
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B
Yeah. Hilarious.
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C
Yeah.
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B
But he did admit to actually doing the act. And when I look at that, I think to myself as a citizen, when I see at the very end, this guy is taking a paycheck right now. I've got to think, okay, somebody step up and say, no.
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C
Yeah, I think that would be grounds enough to. I would think, to terminate. Like most agencies, you get arrested, you should be able to terminate them. And.
- [55:20]
A
And we're going back and forth on that, too, because we preach innocent until proven guilty. I think paid leave is a fair. So I do agree with Mike. I do agree that it should be up to the leader, the. The chief or the sheriff to go, hey, this is my agency. I highly doubt there's any innocence in this based off face value. You're gone.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Now if there is, I'm a sheriff. I'm chief. And I'm like, hey, NIA brings something to me that says there's a chance that maybe this might be a little bit more than just what she's saying. Okay. Paid, admitted. That means you. You have no gun and badge, you sit at a desk and you do work 9 to 5. It sucks when you're a cop. You hate it. You want it over just like everybody else wants it over. But I feel like not throwing the baby out with the bath water or not jumping to conclusions is fair when somebody professionally and internal affairs or professional standards can go, listen, sir, this might be a little bit more. That's.
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C
I think this is where the union navigation happen. Which unions are weak down here. If this guy was up north, he would. They would fight to the life of him. Oh, he'd have a job. He'd keep his job. We just saw a case in Palm beach county that we talked about yesterday where a guy did the same thing. He stalked a girl, and because she didn't want to cooperate, he only got suspended. He didn't get fired. He was guilty of stalking. Stalking a police officer. Sergeant stalking kept his job. So in this case, this is where I don't like the union atmosphere. I would look at this guy and say, hey, dude, you're stalking your. We're gonna fire you. Just so you know. Like, I, I'm not gonna sugarcoat this. Like, I can't have that at this agency. Like the video, twerking video. We can work with that. Like discipline. Like, hey, man, this is a really bad. We're gonna like everything you said that happened to them. I can go along with that. Like suspension, some loss of money, bad decision. But this guy is placing a tracking device and that would lead me down the hole of how many other people he's done.
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B
This ain't the first time.
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C
This is not. Yeah, the statistic. It's statistically impossible to get caught doing something like this the first time that day. So then it goes down the road where I pull him in and just say, hey, dude, like, you're.
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B
You're gone.
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C
I don't care what your union says. I don't care what your lawyer says. Criminal wise, you're going to have your day in court. You're going to have everything. But I can't have a sergeant putting tracking devices even as a joke. Even a joke. I know it's not a joke, but even as a joke, I can't have that here. You're gone. And if you want to sue me for your job back at some point, then great, let's do it. But I think that takes a bigger stand for the community because I think every cop in that agency is going to go. Yep. That's what should happen. Right. I would hope, I would hope that every cop is going to go, he should be fired. Now it gets into like other minor things and if you try to fire a cop for doing something stupid like, you know, missing an overtime assignment or nothing that has to do with character issues, I can see where a cop deserves to be put on admin leave and maybe get suspended. But if you do something like this, there's no reason to keep that guy around. I, I, that's, you've lost a public trust. Yeah, you've lost a public. Anything that loses the public trust and they overuse that too because like cussing at some. Oh, you lost the public trust trucks. You talk to me to somebody. No, you put a tracker on somebody's car. That's, that's, you've lost all credibility to ever be a law enforcement officer.
- [58:19]
B
How I'm interested in this part from both of you too. How hard is it when you have inner agencies doing a investigation like this? Because I saw it was Winter Garden. I believe it's Apopka that are like, Apopka is the one investigating him for criminal charges.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then you have internal within Winter Garden doing their thing. It's all, it's like simultaneous investigation.
- [58:38]
C
It's, this is where it gets ugly in law enforcement. My platform when I talk about running for sheriff is you have to have credibility within the leadership because these can go anywhere. You can see this guy keep his job if he's in the like we talked about earlier, if he's in the right circle and he's got the right people on his side, they can dumb it down to like, oh, it was a prank. It was a really bad prank. Yeah, we're going to give him a two week suspension. He's going to remove his rent. I could, I could see an agency letting this guy keep his job if they really like. That's the problem with law enforcement.
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A
And yes, the problem also is, is that when you don't call a spade a spade, like this is, this is criminal behavior. It brings really bad light to law enforcement. When a cop punches a dude while he's trying to arrest him and did nothing wrong but the public hates it. That's where the sheriff or the chief can he invested in their, their trust. He can go up there like kind of like credit like Mike says, and go, there's nothing wrong with this. You don't like seeing it. It was an arrest. A guy fought our officers. He got punched in the face. Just don't fight the police. And. And then they go, well, damn, He. He is pretty trustworthy. He has told us and been very transparent about criminal activity. He's not trying to cover up for his boys. Okay.
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C
But there's crimes like this. This goes down that line, in my opinion, of, like, deviants. This is a bad one. This goes in the line of, like, sexual assault. This goes in the line of, like, rape. This goes along the lines of, like, ending up in this lady's house at some point. Like, I just saw a story two, three days ago, a school resource officer, like, went and raped their lady, like, down the road and got caught. It's like Atlanta. Yeah. So these crimes, there's certain levels of, like, when you cross a certain line, which is putting a tracker on somebody's car or diving into there, that is like Ted Bunny behavior. That is something I don't think you can fix with suspension or. Or punishment. This guy has to go, and I think he has to go to jail because you can't tell what prank I. In my head, I'm trying to think prank. There's some funny pranks, right? We've seen some good ones, like practical jokers and, like, there's some funny pranks. But to even have those words uttered out of his mouth shows me the level of deviance he's at that he would think you would believe that putting a tracker on a woman's car is a prank.
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B
I agree. I want to piggyback off what you said, because we did. Again, I just bring these up to you. I'm interested in hearing both Yalls opinion. The. We talked about it this morning. The ice cream truck situation between Orange county and Polk County. So both have ice cream trucks now. I can't make this up. Okay.
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C
I know.
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B
So you've got Grady Judd, who I love, huge fan of him. Okay. What he's doing over in Polk, that's just me personally. And then you've got Orange county with Mina over there. Mina goes and gets a drug bust, 90,000 from a drug bust and decides he's going to go buy an ice cream truck with it.
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E
Yeah.
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B
And buys the ice cream truck. And then you've got Polk County. He goes in last month and goes ahead and gets it off of a couple that's retiring, says, hey, I want to continue your legacy, and turns it into that way. And I think to myself, I'm like, that, in my opinion, is good policing in Polk county, poor policing in Orange County. When it comes to leadership in the just the way it looks, if I'm in Orange county, you got 90 grand. And what we thought to do with it was go get an ice cream truck.
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A
Here's where, here's where they. They set the bar too high. And if they spent, I want to say, half a million dollars on a video game trailer that they haul around, the concept is good. They go to underprivileged areas and cops play video games with kids. It's a whole. It's a great concept. Gets used maybe once a week, if that, maybe once a month. And so everybody's kind of like, God, it's a really expensive choice for something that we can't utilize all the time.
- [62:17]
B
But I guess what I'm. What you said earlier about, you know, the sheriff out there or the. The captain, the leader, let's put it that way. That guy is like Grady Judd when he says, hey, I'm gonna go do this because he's respected everywhere.
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A
Yeah.
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B
No one gives it a second look when Orange county does it, it's whoa, whoa, whoa, what is this guy spending money on?
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A
Yeah, that's true. When you have a reputation like Grady judge you.
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B
Yes.
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A
The people trust you to make the good calls.
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F
Different.
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C
Very different demographics too. Like Disney police and all this politics over here.
- [62:45]
A
Hey, man, chill. We're great.
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C
We had crime where Grady Judd has won every election by like250,000 votes. Like you can't run against them. So it's a different atmosphere. I feel like Mina used to follow me and he unfollowed me. I feel like he tries too hard, I think.
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A
And he roasted his cabinet.
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C
I did roast his whole administration because they wear their guns backwards and their
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A
shits while I was working there, by the way.
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B
Yeah, but.
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C
And then he got roasted recently for his gun grip. It was hor posted a shooting video. But I think sometimes you, like you said, you just try to do too much. He's already got the layup. He's got Disney. He's got all this attraction. Put just an ice cream truck. And I would, I would say with Tyler. Agree with Tyler. How often are they really going to use the ice? Or was it a one ninety thousand dollar one shot wonder to post on the news and then it never gets used again because the concept is good, but some places are too big. Grady Judd has a lot smaller area and he can be in more touch with the community with an ice cream truck. You can't get that ice cream truck down I4 without. It'll take you five hours to get down the Interstate with it. Like, you can't even go anywhere because it's too busy. So, yeah, I'm on the fence about Grady. I. I like some of his stuff. I think he's gotten a little too over with the throwing cereal on him and the milk on him out there. Yeah. I was like, yeah. You know, he's like, anything.
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A
You push the envelope, you get a little bit bad feedback, you go, okay, we won't do that one anymore. Yeah.
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C
It was like, I watched the outtakes. They spent like four, five hours throwing cereal and milk at Grady Judd. I'm just like.
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A
You can see him getting visibly frustrated.
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C
Yeah. I'm like, all right, man, you gotta throw the cereal.
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B
I think about the. Like we talked about this morning, like in Orange county, you know, a few months ago, there had to be some intern in a room. They walk in and they're like, hey, guys, we got 90,000 from that drug bust on Saturday. Any. Any ideas on what to do with it? And somebody was like, hey, maybe we hire new officers. We could be new equipment. Ice cream truck.
- [64:30]
C
And they were like, no, I just got out of college with a marketing degree. I've never done it.
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A
I'll tell you what it is. Hey, I just got hired two years ago. And rapidly advancing in the community unit. This is what I think is a good idea.
- [64:43]
C
We'll use it like, once. Guess what? The ice cream's not unlimited. You have to buy more.
- [64:48]
B
Well, you have to have somebody.
- [64:50]
C
You have to man it. And then the ice cream's not unlimited. So now you have to start buying ice cream if you're going to give it away. So eventually it becomes a lot more than 90 grand that's going into an ice cream truck.
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A
But, yeah, I get what you're saying. When a sheriff's around for how long, Grady? 16 years. What he says it literally is like
- [65:08]
C
250, 000 votes every year. He gets every vote in the county. Nobody else can run against him. He's got it on lock. So it's. It's more re. But again, the location is more reasonable for that type of movement of an ice cream truck. You could buy 10 ice cream trucks in Orange County. You still can't get around everybody because it's just too busy. So it's like, like you said, why. Why waste the money on something that it's gimmicky? And it was already done. You know, you get. Grady gets a pass on this one because he was. You know, he did it already, right? It was first. You can't just Bite everybody's, you know, ideas either.
- [65:36]
A
All right, I'm hit these super chats real quick. Six says patriot pal. Great company. Placing another order. Graham had wanted to go back to it. He actually did comment this when we were on our last topic. Something I worry about with trades is AI and people realizing that we white collar jobs are dying. How long till blue collar becomes oversaturated? Kind of out of the box thinking.
- [65:58]
B
Yeah. So we're seeing right now, we are actually going next month to Austin to see the first roof completely installed with robots.
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A
Not.
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B
We are not talking about like an AI 3D printer. They are going to have a complete re roof in Austin, Texas with robots that are will be carrying shingles, removing shingles from the roof. We're talking about the robots. You're thinking about like iRobot type of thing that are going to do it all from scratch. That is next. Next month in Austin, Texas.
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A
You're going?
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B
We are going. Our company was hired by a company that works with them to go out there and video the entire thing. And so I'll have a videographer out there to see this reroof. So to answer his question directly, it's happening right now.
- [66:41]
C
What about when the roofers go on strike and start taking over neighborhoods? Like that's, that's here.
- [66:47]
A
So one thing we say our quotes is we'll say what you can't on this show. Now granted we, we do keep it rated r. We're not NC17 on here. But you know, who's that? Roofing companies. Who's that really gonna hurt? I don't think it's gonna hurt the blue collar American man. I think it's going to hurt another demographic of people. Yeah. Much like it was a real thing. I had to call Edwin, my lawn guy over the summer. Oh, no, sorry. Over the winter. Like winter in the spring. And I'm like, yo, what is the deal? Like my. You're not cutting my grass. The ice thing was a thing. They were grabbing up everybody and yard workers were. And I'm thinking my business mind, I'm like, dude, that's the time to go create a yard business.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Obviously Hispanics are huge in the roofing.
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F
Yeah.
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A
That's what I'm saying.
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C
That's not going to put. Yeah, that's going to put a lot of people in jeopardy. And I don't know, there's something like the ice cream. We're right back to it. There's some things that you just. I don't know if you need to replace them. Right. Do you need to replace with robots? Because I guess the long term is. I mean, that's where it gets dangerous. Because Elon Musk has so much money, so much pool. AI has so much money yourself.
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A
An iRobot for like $25,000 when he puts them out. I remember that when that came out a couple years ago.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I'm saying you could have your own iRobot for a car payment. You would pay for it. Like a car. Yeah, I get it, but I said put them in. Just give them guns. Send them straight.
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C
No, we've already tried that.
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B
When can I have sex with you? That's what I want to know.
- [68:22]
C
I think we're there. If you go to the right part of the Internet, I think they're there. They don't talk back either.
- [68:26]
B
Oh, man.
- [68:27]
C
Come on.
- [68:27]
B
If we're going to do this, let's start with the priorities. Okay. Without roofing.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Yeah, you're right.
- [68:32]
B
There's deeper priorities. And getting with roofing first.
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C
Yeah, I like the roofing guys.
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A
We make a lot more money too. When you can. When you can sell a robot for that purpose rather than lord, I don't need my roof place, but I'm kind of lonely.
- [68:43]
C
Yeah. That could be just as dangerous, though, when the robot decides it's. It's in charge and it's the. It's the man.
- [68:49]
A
You clean the distance.
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F
Yeah.
- [68:51]
A
Chodzilla, one of our inside jokes. These guys ask every guest, what is your favorite shark?
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F
Shark?
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A
And there's. It's. There's no wrong answer. It's literally them asking what your favorite shark is.
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C
Even if you have. If you have one.
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B
If I have a favorite shark, no one's. No one's gonna say it's new.
- [69:06]
A
You're not. You're not autistic. So you don't have one like great
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B
white or something like that. Because everyone would take some cups like that. I mean, I think the hammerhead's probably the most unique looking one.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I go with that one. Just because they can just chomp on you in about a foot of water or something.
- [69:18]
C
Yeah, it's. So there's no wrong answer.
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B
It's strong. Yeah, I like it.
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C
All right. We had a shark expert on. And it went sideways.
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B
I know.
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A
We did it. I was loving it.
- [69:28]
C
Well, Tyler's. It loves sharks. So Tyler's in this guy. And then the whole chat. Our chat is brutal.
- [69:33]
B
Okay, so here's what happens. When I first started Blue Collar Media Group, actually, one of my first clients was a Real estate broker over in New Smyrna Beach.
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A
Okay.
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C
Just.
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B
I hadn't, you know, I was trying to make money and trying to make ends meet. Right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I'm doing a video for her brokerage and we go out there to the beach and she goes, I want to start the video by saying, new Smyrna, the shark capital of the world.
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C
And I was like, I don't know
- [69:53]
B
if this is how we get people to buy here. But she went with it. And I'm like, she was proud of it. But I never realized till I was there doing that video. Shark capital. The world over there, I guess.
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A
Yeah. They sell shirts at the shops. Yeah, it's a sharp eye capital world. The reason why is because there's a huge, huge estuary where people surf. So even the baby shark grabbing your calf and you keep surfing for the day. That goes down as a shark fight.
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C
So, yeah, you would know the shark capital.
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A
I'm just saying, dude. It's common knowledge. I thought. But maybe not.
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C
I thought it was the west coast.
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A
Volusia county and New Smyrna beach in particular is a shark capital of the world.
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C
I thought it was like Venice.
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A
Not even. Not even Australia.
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B
Yeah.
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A
How long we have before.
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B
I don't know what time we got till. I mean, I got till three.
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C
I mean, I got to bring in.
- [70:42]
A
Is he coming?
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C
Yeah, he's on.
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A
Okay.
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C
No, we can. I mean, we got 15 more minutes.
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F
Okay, cool.
- [70:46]
C
Yeah, let's go to 2:30.
- [70:49]
B
What else? We talk about the.
- [70:50]
A
Well, we got some other topics. Oh, yeah, Definitely want your.
- [70:53]
C
You definitely follow that. I like that you follow the same law enforcement topic. So I had that one pulled up and I had one other story from.
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F
Well, I.
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B
What I look at right now is I have a lot of small businesses in downtown Orlando coming to me. And what they're saying is because we don't feel like we're getting help from the police down there. And then they see stuff like these stories. It upsets them because they're like, we're not getting the support that we need, but we're going and buying ice cream trucks. We're getting danced on. You've got guys over here that are putting trackers. These are real problems. I'm trying to run a small business. This is what's why it's being sent to me.
- [71:27]
A
When are you going to. When do you think old John Mina or the chief of police of Orlando is going to come on your show?
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C
I don't.
- [71:33]
B
Oh, he'll never do that. Now I do have somebody Tell them I'm on.
- [71:36]
C
Tell them to come when I'm clip it on Instagram. They will.
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B
I got a guy coming. Coming on on Friday who's running for. I believe. Let me now again, you guys can tell me what you think about the gentleman. I've never met him. All right. His name is Bill Moore is running for sheriff in.
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C
In Orange.
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B
Yes.
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Is Mina out running again?
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C
No. It's probably up for a re election.
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M O O R E more for sheriff dot com. But I don't know much about the gentleman but he wanted to come on and say his piece about downtown. So I'll give.
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You know, tell Bill Moore to stop by here.
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C
Yeah, I'll do that. But where was I going with it?
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Now you're gonna have me on your show?
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C
No. You think so?
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A
I bet. Oh.
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C
Where I was going with this is the same thing happened where I live. There's a bar, small business guy owns a bar in town. It's the number one bar. They just. The cops just with his bar. And I get people drink and drive from all the bars and there's crime at all the bars. You know, they don't spend a lot of time. The uppity rich neighborhood bars where there's some doctors and lawyers. They don't go to those bars and harass those people that are probably doing more cocaine than anything. Yeah, yeah. Doing more cocaine than anybody. But they pick on one particular bar that's a good friend of mine in town and it's like he even tried to hire the cops and they were turning down hiring like jobs, off duty jobs. But then they would. Sharks made me think of it. They're like sharks in the parking lot just hammering his customers.
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Yeah.
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Are they drinking and driving? Yeah, they're drinking and driving. Everybody bar and are. Is there crime at every bar? Yeah, there's crime in every bar. But some of the arguments from the community are is you're going to like the number one spot where everybody's hanging out. This dude's outspoken. He's a little critical of law enforcement. And you're kind of making his case for him that you guys are targeting because there's nine cops out back sneaking around. But he wants to hire one at the door to protect the people coming in. And they won't. They won't do it for him. So it's. It's a wild scenario.
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I want to. I'll piggyback off that. Here's what people downtown are upset about. I'm talking to these owners. They're called, you Guys maybe covered AMS fees. Have you heard of this? So in downtown Orlando, in order to stay open and sell alcohol at night, past midnight, you have to by law pay a fee to the city called an AMS fee. You have to. Now what that is supposed to do is pay for a police officer to be present.
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A
Okay.
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B
But the police officer doesn't have to be at your bar.
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A
So you're paying like a community fund to have a homeowners association.
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C
Yeah.
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B
So what these guys are upset about right now, downtown is great. I'm paying my fee and now this guy is sitting out there on the street where the problem in my opinion is why no one wants to come to my bars. Because he got loitering by a 17 year old doing cat calling out there. So I'm paying for this officer to stand out there and not enforce the laws that are going to help my small business. Makes no sense. And so for them, they're pissed and they're frustrated because they're like, I want the business to come down here and walk in the streets and feel comfortable, but they can't. And I'm paying for the officer to be there.
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C
So each bar has to have a cop.
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B
Yes.
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C
But they don't do anything.
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B
Well, they don't get a cop. They get one they pay for. But they that that cop can roam and do whatever they would like to do.
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C
So it's not assigned to that actual business.
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But the business has to pay the fee.
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C
So every business is paying that fee.
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F
Yes.
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C
And there's not a bit. There's not a cop for it. But they can just walk around. They're just walking around.
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Yes.
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C
It makes more sense to just hire their own cop.
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B
Yes.
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C
Individually or.
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A
Oh, because you could pay the off duty fees. Yeah, downtown off duty fees go. They get paid a hundred bucks an hour.
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C
What's that fee? Do you know the fee?
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B
So I want to say it's a thousand dollars on average a week that the bar is paying right now. And you must pay it in advance. Now they do not do this anymore.
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C
Where do you have communism?
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F
You have to Mafia.
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C
That's mafia.
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A
That's mafia. You want protection, you got to pay the fee.
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C
You don't even get protection because mafia would knock that dude out and take him behind the dumpster. Yeah, never come back if you're swimming with the sharks.
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B
I mean it's, there's a real fees going on right now. And so these guys are frustrated and I think that's why I'm getting sent a lot of this stuff. Because they're looking at like, hey, we, we're trying over here. Give us a fair shake. And when they see this stuff, they get more upset. And that's, that's why they send it to me.
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A
I love it.
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B
You're doing great.
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A
You're doing the Lord's work.
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C
You're doing great work. Because it's not fair to target small businesses. And that's what it is. It's the mafia. Yes, it is a mafia.
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B
It is.
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C
But if you went to the mafia, said that dude outside keeps stupid stealing from me, guess what? That dude is never coming back. You'll never hear from him. You'll never have a problem with that guy again.
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B
But you, you know, you walk downtown, some 17 year old guys there, he's cat calling your girl. Now you got a situation where, okay, now where I'm in this whole back and forth. We're in some place I don't want to be at. And so you say I want to avoid it. And then you don't patron those places that you used to go to.
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D
Yeah.
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B
And these guys are trying to make a living and they're sick of it. And this is why I get, you know, I'm critical or I have been of opd, OPD down there at night time because I want to see these laws enforced so that we can have a vibrant entertainment district down in that area.
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A
I watched your, one of your more recent reels and you talked about part these people committing. These are a lot of the times wouldn't even be there if we just enforce the basic rules that they had set in place where juveniles don't need to be out at one in the morning in downtown. Those rules were made for a reason. And then we don't enforce them. So then we have shootings.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And we have economic collapse in downtown Orlando. But like you said, I think there's, I'm, I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm a little bit of rabbit hole. I don't think local government is not. I think they have the ability to go well in by 2035. We kind of want the Kia center to be this. So let's just let this work itself out.
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B
Yeah, Buddy Dyer's a lame duck right now. I mean no one can say here's my, here's my opinion about or Orlando, the city of Orlando, if anybody lives there. There's not one thing that people in Orlando can look back on and say for the last 20 years it's improved. I mean, the streets aren't better. It surely is not Less crowded. The buildings are not better. There's not one area of the city of Orlando that's improved in the last 20 years while Buddy Dyer has been in power. And so when I look at this, I say, the only thing you got is that tram going over to A or B where I get to listen to Buddy Dyer say, thanks for visiting Orlando.
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C
That's all I think about when people say, you got C2.
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B
That's what it is.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Dude.
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C
Yeah.
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A
You're in Orlando. Just came back from. We just came back from.
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C
Everybody says Buddy. Thank you for joining. Yeah, Right.
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B
You got to see all of our vibrant attractions.
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C
Yeah.
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B
All that Orlando has.
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C
I saw a 17 year old taking a. In front of a restaurant. Nobody would do anything about it.
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A
That's funny.
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B
But I mean, that's about it. I mean, that's, in my opinion, what he has to show for it. So, you know, I don't know. I thought about this whole mayor thing. I keep on flirting with the idea of it because I think that it's just so. There's so much corruption in the city of Orlando side that jump in politics, man.
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C
It's great. Let me tell you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Mike's running for sheriff of Indian river county.
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C
Two years out, and I'm a week and a half in. And it's. It changes your life immediately. You're just under the folk. It's just obviously your life becomes a huge. You're under microscope.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Anymore.
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C
You don't have to change who you are, but obviously you have to change. Change some things. And then you just, It's. It definitely gives you like every day.
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A
It reminds me of when you get married and your boys are like, bro, guys getting married. All of a sudden, he's not cool. And you're like, I'm just getting married, guys.
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C
Yeah. I'm never gonna change who I am because my principles are what I told you earlier about the law enforcement and the way we should run it and all that. But, dude, you just. You feel a little different. It. It's definitely you even being on social media. I've been on the Internet over a year and podcasting and all that. There's just a different vibe because now you're not just a podcaster. You're. You're a politician. So everybody's got to say about, oh, this guy's. That he's. What you gonna do about that? And it's. It's definitely good, but I would encourage it. I think you have the right mind. It just you, obviously you're on the Internet you have thick skin. You're not going to get easily rattled. That that's really what you have to be able to do is just not get rattled about people running their mouth. And it also one thing you have to consider is once you jump in, even more than podcasting, anybody can say anything they want about you as a politician, and it could be completely false and it could be the worst false story and there's no defamation anymore. You're kind of opened up to all.
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B
I'll tell you the only shot I think I have, and this is going to sound crazy, is John Morgan.
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A
So Morgan and Morgan and Morgan and Morgan. Morgan, Morgan.
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B
Work with me on this one. So John Morgan now got his own political party. Ah, okay. So he's not running for governor. He's starting his own political party. In fact, it's coming up.
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A
He's got enough money to do next next.
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B
He did the naming contest for a hundred thousand dollars and you get the winner comes out next week. I want to be John Morgan's candidate for city of Orlando. It's right there in his backyard. I know I'd have the protection of John Morgan and his team.
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C
Yeah, you can't fall down if you want and just.
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B
Yeah, I'd be fine. I, I, I'm. Where's my plea to John Morgan? Hey, listen, call me, get in touch me. I want to be his candidate.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Because if there's going to be an independent shot, I think having John Morgan behind you is the place you want
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C
to be in Orlando. Plenty of money, so.
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B
Plenty of money.
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C
Yeah, yeah.
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B
He's got the name. I'll take it.
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C
I like it.
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B
If I can get John on the phone, I mean, I'll tell you what, let's do it for the people, whatever. I'll say what you need me to say, John.
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A
All right. One of our big supporters, Clint, said Hammerhead is definitely the blue collar shark. It didn't even put you and do together.
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B
Just put it on the bottom, you know, just doing his thing, hanging out, man.
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A
So glad you came. I hope that with you guys being so close, we can do collaborations together. You can stop by, you know, whenever.
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C
The ice cream truck together. Yeah, whoever you want, man.
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A
We can prank call Mina together. All right, we're gonna go to another commercial break.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Hey, real quick, check out his YouTube is the Patrick Carr with two Rs where he actually these big conversations he's having are in long form content. Go give him a follow there. Obviously, we've all built YouTube channels. We know how important that is to start to get that snowball rolling. So the Patrick Carr 2 Rs on YouTube and then Patrick underscore R, underscore Carr on Instagram. Thanks so much, man.
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B
Man. Guys, thank you.
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C
Awesome, gentlemen, thank you very much.
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B
Appreciate it.
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A
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Thanks, guys. I really appreciate that.
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A
And we're back. Thank you guys so much for the chats. Obviously, cc, you gotta pay. You gotta take off your tiny hat if you're gonna want us to ask those questions. Gotta be more than two bucks.
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C
You know the rule. I saw it.
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A
But I'm glad to see Cece's back. Glad to see all you guys got some new faces in the chats. So comment, let us know who you are. I don't think you can DM on YouTube, but hit us up on the socials, man. These guys are all these.
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C
Join the app.
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A
Yeah, six. Mark, Clint Pride, Gator, Nick Champ, which we know who that is. Mike Fritz. All these guys in here are. You are regulars. Yeah, well, I don't know him know him, but we know him. As in like, he's Mike Fritz.
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C
Oh, okay.
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A
He's Mike Fritz, bro.
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C
He's like, talk about Nick Champ. Do we know him?
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A
Yeah, we know who he is. I think everybody does. But here's the thing is if at first, if you want to come out here and use anonymity, you can. Right? It's a trust thing. In the 99, if you ever want to say, hey, guys, this is what I look like. If you might look like a 45 year old skater, lesbian and be five, six. We're not going to judge you. And you might have been an army ranger in your past.
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B
We don't.
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C
Yeah, army ranger comes on and tells everybody to kill themselves. Frequently pisses everybody off. You could be anybody you want.
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A
Anybody you want. So. All right, let's go to it. Our next guest is retired Baltimore PD and the author of It's a longer
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C
title, Law Enforcement, A life in Law Enforcement, Police memoir. The good, the bad and the corrupt that we always talk about.
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A
Right.
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C
Corruption. So bring on Thomas. I'm gonna let him say his last name. Eli. Hit him up maybe.
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A
I think he's frozen.
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C
Frozen. All right, one second. We'll get him on. Everything was going cartiti like that.
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A
Can you text him and let him know that he's frozen? He might not even know. Couple quick topics while we're here. Everybody is getting sick and tired of what is going on in Europe. So obviously we have the Henry Noick case where he was stabbed wrongfully. Didn't do anything wrong. Sounds familiar. Actually, the police were such cucks to. To the left over there that they handcuffed him. Now, granted, racism is probably a charge in Europe. I would imagine it is. I'm. I would imagine if you hang up your country's flag and you can go to jail, you could probably go to jail for being racist. So Henry was handcuffed. We covered it a little bit. Was handcuffed. And while he was dying. No protests from the police. The police knelt for George Floyd. Not even in their own country yet they didn't kneel for Henry. The people of England are not having that anymore. And now you got this thing in Belfast that we covered yesterday. And it's UK leaders call for calm as protests break out of her Belfast street. Savvy. A man in Belfast was almost beheaded for no reason by an immigrant from Somalia. Somalia. I think something like that. Right, wrong or different. Those are the facts that is that happened. And the government decides to tell the people of Belfast, hey, just make sure you don't. This doesn't make you too racist. Let's calm down. Let's not jump to conclusions. Hey, let's not live in fear. They started torching buses and causing riots, which is good for them. Good for them. Take your country back. You're not going to have your people be beheaded in your streets and then have your government tell you, take it easy, dude. You're overreacting. It's just not going to happen. I wish America would grow balls like that because that would be pretty cool, but we ride over Knicks games or
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C
we just get upset, break a couple things.
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A
But yeah, it's. It should be an insult to everybody over there.
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B
Your.
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C
Your government.
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A
Hey, welcome to the U. Welcome to our. Our mindset here in the United States. Your government doesn't care about you. Your government cares about the liberal left agenda, the George Soros plan, and the ultimate plan of Satan himself taking over and coming and ruin his world. That is what happened when you have your government telling you you can be beheaded in your streets and you should calm down. We're at the end times, bro.
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C
Yeah, if I was in charge, I'd be like, everybody, go buy a gun.
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A
There you go.
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C
He's getting there.
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A
He was so enthralled with what you're saying. I saw that. CC can wait. We're priority.
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C
Yeah, CC's not in charge of. You got. This is who's in charge. All right, let's try to bring Thomas in, see how everything is working. Can you hear us?
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What's up, guys? How you doing, Michael? Thank you.
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C
Absolutely. Tell everybody who you are and why you're here.
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F
I'm Tom Caritti. I'm here just to. To talk with you guys, I guess, about anything. You want a law enforcement guys.
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C
I want to go back to what
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A
you told me about your last name. I would have butchered that.
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C
Yeah, we were going to go.
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Car.
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F
Chitty.
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C
Car's good. I want you to tell me what you told me about the old school FTO program when we talked on the phone.
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F
Yeah, we talked about so many things. Let me try to backtrack in my
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B
mind
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C
the way things were done back in the day.
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F
Okay, So I think, if I remember correctly, what you're talking about, the unwritten rules that were you talking about.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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C
The old school, man.
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All right, all right. So back in the late 90s, early 2000s, things had definitely changed by then. You know, things really started to change. I think, you know, from. I hear stories from family members and friends. In the 90s, things really, really started to change with the advent of cameras and everything. But even in my time, when I was coming up in Baltimore. Right, you went to the academy. Six months, six and a half months. Then you do your field training, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I remember when you get out of field training and, you know, this is true. You see this in a lot of movies, people like this is. It's, you know, it's hyperbole. It's really not. Back then, depending on who you got a lot of a lot of salty veterans. They didn't trust you until you made your bones, so to speak. Until they, you know, they. They knew they can trust you. Basically, you go in your report for, you know, at the station, the precinct, you pull for duty, you have your fto. And I literally remember him telling me, listen, forget that bullshit you learned in the academy. That's great, but that's not. That's not what goes on. This is Baltimore city. This isn't, you know, this is Baltimore City. That's all I got to say. And I just remember the unwritten rule, what we were talking about on the phone. We're the cops, the perps of the perps. You know, we respect each other. We might not have liked each other, but we respected each other, right? There was a give and take, a ying and yang, right? But the unwritten rule was, I'm gonna do my job, you do your thing if I have to arrest you. And this is the way I was taught. You know, I'm not saying I prescribe to it.
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B
I did it.
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F
But this is how I was taught, bro. The unwritten rule was if I go to arrest you and you resist or you run or you try to assault me, if I have to chase you to affect an arrest, you're gonna end up catching a beating. And, yeah, I'm not saying that that's right or wrong. I'm not saying I did it for anybody. Anybody that wants to, you know, try to hammer me. I'm not saying I ever did that.
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C
But what we talked about, it was a mutual thing, right? It was a mutual. It was. It was kind of.
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F
That.
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C
Yeah, it was a code. Code. So how long?
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F
How long? I mean, you.
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C
Obviously, Baltimore doesn't get the. I don't think the words, Craig, I
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A
want to know, like, when did you start and when did you end? Yeah, what year?
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F
So I started in Baltimore in 2002, and I went up, lateral, lateraling out to Montgomery county, which is the suburb in Maryland on the. On the border of D.C. but it's, like, going from night and day. It's like Long island, you know, it's rich politicians, Supreme Court judges. You know, the president goes to Navy Med over there for his treatment. It's big bucks. You know, it's like I said, it's. It's a suburb of D.C. it's like long Island, a suburb of Manhattan.
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What year did you transfer?04. Okay, obviously, Baltimore, outside of the. The in custody death, they had, like, 10 years ago. The big. The big Baltimore story was made famous. With the Amazon prime series. We Own the City.
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C
Yeah.
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F
Yeah, well, that. We Own the City. That was hbo, one of my favorite shows ever. Yeah, that's the same guy that wrote the Wire. My favorite, my favorite show ever made. I think David Simon is his name. Just unbelievable show. I love that, that whole, listen, it's, it's Hollywood, so anything's gonna be a little far fetched, but that's about as realistic as you're gonna get, I believe.
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C
You know what, what drove you to write the book? Like, what was the moment in your career where, if you don't mind talking about, why did you get out at 15 years and then what led you to write the book?
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F
So I was a police officer in Maryland for about five and then I was also a New York State peace officer for a long time, for about 12 years. I retired from Maryland due to an injury. Crazy story. Like we were talking about you, basically, you're, you're important to them until you're not anymore. Right? And I got hurt at work and they started breaking my chops and you know, I spoke to my union and my balls, yeah, bad, bad. You know, when they can use you for whatever they got to use you for, they, they'll do it. And then the second you get hurt and you know, you're on light duty, so to speak, or whatever it is, they don't, they don't want to hear it. And I basically spoke to my union, I spoke to my lawyer. I'm like, this is crazy what they're doing. And they're like, listen, just put in your papers, put in your retirement. You're not going to get it right away. You're not going to get it probably at all until later on if it gets worse, whatever, but at least show them that you're, you know, your injury is legit, it's line of duty and they'll get off your back. And you know, it was a neck injury. So they realized the county doctors, they all got it. So they realized it was legit. And six months later they called me and they put me out. You know, so at 30, early 30 something, I'm out of the police department. It's life changing. And I'm like, what the. But yeah, that's how it was. I didn't, I didn't want to retire early, you know, but because of their BS and their politics and that's how it worked out. But to answer the second part of that question, why I wrote my book, I realized that it doesn't matter how much time you have on the job, you could have, you know, a year, you could have 50 years on the job. Everyone's going to have their own unique experiences and they won't take. And especially when you're working in, you know, a place like Baltimore City, New York, New York city in the 70s and 80s, Chicago, Detroit, places like this, St. Louis, it's, it's just crime infested a lot of the areas. And you know, to be honest, a police officer in Baltimore city sees more in a month than a police officer in the outside jurisdictions of Baltimore. Excuse me.
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For sure.
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C
I think Baltimore is, get slept on is we always use Chicago as all our examples for crime. I, I would think I agree with you. Baltimore is probably the worst place in America. Would you agree? Crime.
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F
Listen, I, I think in my humble opinion, because I was there, I think it's the most crime ridden, violent, deadly city in America, if not the worst. Okay, every year you can argue for big cities, it's top three. But there's, there's, there's crazy places, you know, like places in California, Oakland, Los Angeles, you know, there's places in this country. I grew up, I was born in Brooklyn, I grew up in Long island. You know, I'm on the North Shore right now. I'm in Lake Success waiting for my mom to come out of a doctor's appointment. I'm sitting in my car and there's, there, there's, you know, Mercedes and Ferraris driving all around, there's million dollar houses. People don't realize unless they step out that there's places like Baltimore, there's places like Detroit in this country. And even for me, I was a New York guy, but it was an eye opening experience. When I went to Baltimore, even for me, you know, I saw places like the Bronx, I saw places like New York city in the 80s with crack and AIDS. But when I went to Baltimore, 15,000 abandoned row homes, people living with rats, people living, you know, falling through ceilings when you're chasing people through these homes. Yeah, like I can't make this up. And it really is an eye opening experience and I don't think many people understand it unless you're there
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C
looking at the book. What, and I'm always interested in the gritty stuff. What is the corrupt part of the book? And you have to obviously want people to buy it and check it out. But what, when you say the good, the bad and the corrupt, what is your view or what, what is the corruption you witnessed?
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F
So I saw so much good in law enforcement every day, you know, Men and women cops doing good things, saving people. And then I saw so much bullshit, you know, the next day, I saw the exact opposite. You know, I mean, I don't even know where to begin, you know, with nepotism, corruption, politics, backstabbing. That was the worst part of the job, the backstabbing. You know, like, I was. I wasn't. It was insane. I was never worried about going on the street, God forbid, getting shot or stabbed. That's not. That wasn't in my mentality. It wasn't in my heart. I wasn't worried about that. You know, I had a footbeat on the block. I was one Adam 11 a lot. And I volunteered for that. And that part of that post was 400 E. Baltimore St. You know, all strip clubs, prostitution, drugs, guns, you know, craziness. And I loved it when I was young. I loved the excitement. You know, I love making calls, making arrests. But you realize at a certain point you're not going to be backed. Certain people will back you, but very few.
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A
And, well, those guys that'll back you are on their way out. Big Sarge, there's no more. There's no more sergeants anywhere in the country that come from that mindset that they'll go to war for you and almost lose their stripes if you are in the right. Those guys are gone. And now all the sergeants that are out there on. On in police departments and stuff, spineless. They're terrified. All they want to do is.
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C
Yes. The other thing about this is. And this is where I'm gonna get mad again about the job's not dead or the job's dead because it drives me crazy. You can lay his story down. Got a little bit more of a New York accent than the other ones. You can lay your story down on top of all the other good cops I've ever talked to. And it sounds identical.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Everybody says the same thing. It wasn't the bad guys I was worried about. I knew what to expect from them. It was the good guys that I didn't expect inside the building that pulled off XYZ and this, you, new generation. Because they've never worked for Big Sarge. And they're conditioned to not talk back, not say anything and just shut their mouth and sign up and be good little police officers. They have no idea what you're talking about. I do. He does. But it's the same story. It's the guys inside the building and the politics that have killed this job. That's my. That's my opinion. It sounds like you agree that's kind of where you're going with it.
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F
I couldn't agree anymore. The truth of the matter is that thin blue line they're talking about, all this BS you hear, I didn't see it. Yeah, I think, and I think that was definitely from stories I hear from my uncles, from family members, cousins, that was definitely around in the 70s before. Yeah, I think after 1995, 2000, I, I think unless you had a rabbi, so to speak, unless you had a huge crane, a hook, someone to look out for you, then you're fine. You do whatever you want. You can almost commit murder. But for the 90, 90 something percent of us that don't have that, that aren't kiss ass, that are going to tell someone to go fuck off, including the brass that they don't want guys like me, they don't want educated people.
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C
Yeah, yeah. This is what I'm, this is another slogan I'm, I'm coining. They called us disgruntled. No, disappointed. Disappointed and disgruntled are two different things. The guys that really did the job and assumed they were going to be backed and they were going to go out there and work that district you worked and deal with those people you had to deal with day in and day out. You go home miserable, miserable, the head's spinning, you got to go back tomorrow, do it again. These guys working this beat that have no problems in the world or complaining about this. And I didn't get that. That's disgruntled. When you have it made and you're working easy and you're still complaining, that's as disappointed as a guy like you that worked that nastiest part of town and all you asked for was back me up when I need it. Not unjustified, but when I need it, back me up, don't let me get hung out the dry and they do it anyway. That's my version of that's disappointed in the, the department.
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F
Well, you know what was the most disappointing part for me? I never had a problem in Baltimore. I got to be honest, I was on the fast track there. I was a hard hitter. I'm an aggressive guy. Not. I don't want this to come out the wrong way. I never, I was always on a straight narrow. I never took a dime. I never beat anyone. I never put my hands on anyone that didn't try to hurt me, but they knew not to mess around. You know, I was a serious guy. And you know, I'm a lifelong martial artist and I could really, really handle myself. What got disappointing was I transferred out to the county for the money, for the benefits, and you know what? Thank God I have my pension. But it went from big city policing, you know, getting guns, drugs. We didn't have time for. We didn't have time for every day, you know, Internal affairs this and that. And then I go to the county, and it's rich people and it's politicians and it's judges, and it's. And then the next thing you know, you're in Internal affairs all the time
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C
and looked at me wrong. He talked to me mean. He said the F word, all that.
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F
Oh, my gosh, are you kidding me? Like. And I didn't even know what Internal affairs was at that point because I've never been. So I go work for the county, I transfer to the county, and it's like the last straw was, I remember. I get it. I get a notice during roll call. Oh, you got to report to Internal Affairs. I'm like, internal Affairs? For what? Like, you think like, Internal Affairs, They're. They're investigating crimes, you know, cops that are raping people, cops that are selling drugs. Serious. But they don't tell you what it's for. They're just like, oh, it's an incident on such and such a date. And you're like, what did this lady say I did? Maybe I beat her up. Maybe I raped her. Like, what? You don't know in your head? You're like, what the. So I go. And they literally pulled me, a cop, off the street. They pulled me off the street. Montgomery County Police in Maryland pulled me off the street for a courtesy complaint. The lady said that I didn't identify myself because I said to her, this is my name. It's on my. It's on my tag. They. They tried to give me a writ. They tried to give me a reprimand for something as foolish as that. And I was like, what the fuck? And at that point, I knew it was all a game and it was all bullshit. I knew you were just expendable trash to them. And that's when things really started to change my mentality, you know?
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C
Yeah, that's. That's. Usually there's a defining. I believe that's. That's in the disappointment category. There's a defining moment in a cop's career. Happened to me. Same thing in Eternal affairs case where I was like, I didn't do anything. There's no way. Like, this is. I kept saying to my buddy, I'm like, there's. I Didn't. This isn't it. There's nothing. Nothing could happen from that. I got demoted. And I. I never forget that feeling of, like, all the stuff I've witnessed, all the stuff I've seen happen. All these people in this building that I've watched do horrific things, and this is it. And that's the moment that. Until you're in that moment that you were in and you understand it, most cops don't think it's going to happen to them. And that's why it takes books and guys like you to talk about it, because a lot of guys are just oblivious to the fact that it's that easy. And it's kind of like win the lottery.
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F
We.
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C
You know, it's not gonna happen to most of them. It's gonna only happen to certain ones. But when it does, you're just like, I cannot believe this is what they're doing to people. And it's. It's a. It's a hurtful moment. It's like. It's like being cheated on. It's like being. It's being a betrayal.
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A
It is.
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C
It's the ultimate betrayal. When you go, I've been called in on murder calls. I've worked overtime, details. They needed people because there was a shooting. I volunteered. I came in, and then it's like, you. You cussed at somebody and said the F word. And we didn't like the takedown, so you're demoted. And you're just like, this is the one. This is what we're doing. And it's like, it will. It'll send you off the rails. And, you know, they just call you disgruntled and make everybody think you're crazy. Gaslighting.
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F
You know, the craziest. One of the craziest things I experienced. And you know, one thing I don't do is if you did good, I name you. I don't call people out by name in my book. I change details. I changed it because I'm not like that. I wasn't raised like that. I'm not looking to get anyone in trouble or jam anyone up. I just want to tell my story and paint an overall picture so people really know what's going on. And if you want to find out the facts, be my guest. Go look at my citations. Go look at the police reports. Go look the court cases, movies, books. It's all documented, right? But I'm not going to call anybody out. But I had one. This is so crazy. Like, people don't understand. This is true. I had One female boss. We get a call for a barricaded edp. I believe it was a crazy, you know, mentally impaired person. Whatever. Whatever you want to. I don't want to label them, but, you know. You know where I'm going with this.
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C
You said. Oh, yeah, good.
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F
You know, whatever. Mentally aided.
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C
Yeah.
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F
We go to the call, and he's barricaded, and SWAT goes in. One of the SWAT cops. Good guy. I trained with him in Jiu Jitsu. Real nice guy. I think he subsequently passed away. You know, God bless, rest in peace. Who's a good guy? He goes around the back, and the female captain shows up. I guess she got scared. I don't know what the hell happened. She saw the bushes moving. She takes a Glock 40, 40 caliber, and she takes a shot at the SWAT officer.
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C
Okay, so now we need that body cam.
- [107:24]
F
Right? And we didn't have body cams back. She takes a shot at the SWAT officer. You know, if that's me or you, we're in the jackpot. Oh, yeah, Right. No matter how many sorrys we give, no matter. We're fucked.
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A
Mm.
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F
She takes a shot at him, the whole thing is squashed. She gets promoted to deputy chief or something. She gets promoted, like, a month later to, like, deputy chief of some. And I'm like, wait, I. I gotta figure something out. I'm a pretty smart guy, but this goes beyond me. How is this happening?
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B
It.
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F
It turns out she was banging, she was having. She was married, and she was having an affair. With the chief? With the deputy chief.
- [108:09]
C
Well, she's safer up top. The farther she goes. So that we. She doesn't get a chance to shoot at the SWAT guy anymore. So you promote her to make sure she can't do that. That dumb stuff?
- [108:17]
F
Exactly.
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A
Yeah.
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C
That's good tactics.
- [108:20]
F
And you can't make this up. This is true. If you go back and research it. This really all happened. Like I said, I don't give names, but that's what the police department was. It didn't matter how many guns I brought in. It didn't matter how many people I saved. That was the police department. If you're sucking. If you're sucking. You know what? I'm not gonna say it on here.
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C
You.
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F
You could. You could go anywhere you want.
- [108:45]
C
Yeah, you know, it goes all the ways now, so. All right, Thomas, tell us where we find you on social media. Your social media accounts. You want to plug those? You have them?
- [108:54]
F
Yeah.
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C
I mean, just.
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F
Just look me up on. On Facebook. Thomas Carquiti. You can look Up. Life Enforcement is my website. My book, Life in Law Enforcement, you can get on Amazon or anywhere online. Yeah, that's. That's basically it. I'm not much of a social media guy. I got to get more into it.
- [109:11]
C
Listen, I mean, like I said, based on your stories alone, and it's always the. The energy you bring. I know the book has some. Obviously some good content to it, and you have some wild stories. And I can tell you from talking to you. As soon as I talked to you on the phone, I was like, yep, this is. This guy's been a cop. I can tell right away when I talk to somebody what they've been through. So we appreciate you so much for coming on and we'll make sure everybody gets. The link to your book is in the description of the episode. And thank you so much, man.
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A
Man.
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F
Gentlemen, thank you all so much. Mike, let's. We'll keep in touch. I'll hit you up later.
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C
Yes, sir. Absolutely, man. Thank you.
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F
Thanks, pal.
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A
All right, later.
- [109:45]
C
It's always in the voice. It's like mom's sauce. You tell the voice, like, as soon as I talk to him, like, yeah, this guy.
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A
You're breaking my ball.
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C
Yeah. I mean, can you imagine Baltimore, like 2000s? Walking a beat. Walking a beat.
- [109:56]
A
Well, that's what I was asking. Like, what do you do when it's
- [109:58]
C
cold, Freeze your balls off for the big ass jacket and a stick and beanie? It's wild. Wild times.
- [110:06]
A
Got a super chat from Lucido Jones. 10 bucks. My buddy and I got into a pursuit last week with a DV suspect. He got written up because he reversed accidentally hitting a barrier while he was trying to avoid getting rammed by the suspect. Imagine that. You hit a barrier, you don't cause any damage outside of the patrol car. You get written, we should hit 50 barriers.
- [110:28]
C
I always say that. That we should be in so many more accidents than we really are. And to get written up for hitting
- [110:32]
A
a bear drive 12 hours a day. I know, I know. That shit's nuts, bro. Tell your boy I got a pursue
- [110:38]
C
video we're gonna watch tomorrow that's got very similar circumstances. I can't wait for everybody to see it. Yeah.
- [110:44]
A
Aidist stressed says Eli posting fruit facts for pride month. Why are you posting random facts on.
- [110:50]
C
He's taking over.
- [110:52]
A
I'm like, is Eli having a stroke?
- [110:54]
C
He's having a Lewis.
- [110:55]
A
Saturn can float in a bathtub. I'm like, I'm looking at the comments to see if, like, anybody mentioned Saturn. I'm like, what
- [111:02]
C
he's just living the dream.
- [111:05]
A
Remember what happened in the last one, Eli. Just remember that.
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B
Yeah, but at least.
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A
Yeah.
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F
All right.
- [111:13]
A
That's it, guys. That's our show. What a hell of a show. Packed house. Packed in the comments. Really cool to see all that. Really cool to see some new faces in here.
- [111:21]
C
Yeah, it was a good. It was a good.
- [111:23]
A
If you're a new face or if you're a hidden face that doesn't like to comment, get with us, man. These guys all in here are savages, but they. We're all savages for a reason. We all met and we have this thing going. I try explaining the 99 to people and some dude today was like, sounds like a gay thing.
- [111:42]
C
I'm like, no, this dude right here would be the dude we had on earlier will be in the 99. Yeah, he's one of the. He's one of them.
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A
Yeah.
- [111:47]
C
So you can always tell people are just up these new cops. Like. Like I said, I have. The Copville app's almost done. And I suggested in a group chat. I told you that when hours and weeks and months that maybe charge like 4 bucks, 5 bucks for an app where you can have a workout program exclusive. And they're like, let me spend money.
- [112:07]
A
We got. We got.
- [112:08]
C
Cancel one of your only fan subscriptions and get. Join. Join the app.
- [112:11]
A
We got hella supporters in the 99. Like I said.
- [112:14]
C
Email to read to you when we're done.
- [112:16]
A
Like I said, when we're. If you're not ready for the app, you know, you don't really know what it's about. Get engaged with these guys that are in the comments. Hit us up on the DMS and social media. Say, I watch the show, but I don't really comment. Maybe Patreon's a good. A good start for you. Just you get to know me and Mike a little bit better.
- [112:35]
C
App. Yeah, Patreon's a start. The app is where it's at. And really it is, I think give that thing another year. It's really its own social media platform.
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F
Platform.
- [112:43]
C
It's an entire. It's Instagram and YouTube and everything all in one spot. So it's almost like it's creating its own. It's like it's creating its own network. It's its own real network and I love it.
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A
Yeah, you guys. Yeah, you guys are the. The 99. The OGs. I should. I should say these guys commenting. And it's. It's. It's kind of like jumping in the deep end, man. When you're scared and like I don't know dude, you jump in and you're having a blast like that's what it's that's what it's it's about but they also gotta make sure we don't have no in here dude we can't have any soft skinned dudes that are gonna cry about that's what that's the biggest
- [113:17]
C
or psycho we have to say psychopaths too.
- [113:20]
A
Yeah you can't be a psychopath you can't be wanting to downfall of the
- [113:23]
C
channel definitely got one of them around
- [113:25]
A
so yeah Jake has been real sassy lately. It's Tristan. All right guys, that's it. Thank you so much. Tonight we got a hell of a lineup on counterculture ache YouTube I think we got G money at 7 canine at 8 breaking doing the pre what game are we in? 4 game 4 pre show 2 to 1 next so go check out G money go check out canine and yeah and then we'll be here 1pm for Thursday tomorrow so we got some videos thanks guys. See you then.
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F
Sav team for life.