The MURDER of Kerry Sheron- THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!! (05/26/2026)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: The MURDER of Kerry Sheron – THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!! (05/26/2026)

Date: May 27, 2026
Host(s): Tyler & Mike (The Antihero Podcast)
Guest: Brandon Burton, author of "Authority Without Control"

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the brutal murder of Kerry Sheron, a 69-year-old Army veteran attacked outside his pro-Trump themed home. The hosts examine how Sheron's politically charged death has been received across social and political spectrums, raise concerns about selective outrage, and reflect on wider cultural decay and crime targeting vulnerable Americans—especially veterans and the "99%" blue-collar public. Later, veteran and author Brandon Burton joins for an introspective conversation about leadership, moral injury, and generational shifts in military service.

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Table of Contents

1. The Kerry Sheron Case: Facts and Reactions
2. Political Commentary and Double Standards
3. Crime, Patriotism, and Cultural Erosion
4. Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
5. Interview with Brandon Burton: Military Leadership & Moral Injury
6. Additional Discussions: Cop Culture, Media, and Audience Interaction
7. Timestamps for Key Segments

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1. The Kerry Sheron Case: Facts and Reactions <a name="kerry-sheron-case"></a>

• Incident Recap (05:40 – 07:53):

  • Kerry Sheron, 69, Army war vet, was severely beaten outside his pro-Trump, patriotically decorated Escondido home. He died after hospitalization.
  • The perpetrator, Thomas Caleb Butler (32), was charged with attempted murder; the attack was reportedly unprovoked and potentially politically motivated.
  • A bystander trying to help was also injured.

• Media and Community Response:

  • Initial news coverage was limited. The hosts argue the case would draw national outrage if the victim were from a more protected demographic.

Key Quote:

"If this had happened to a trans person or to a black person or Muslim person or a gay person or a Jewish person, it'd be up in arms. But the poor guy falls into our category... straight white male and no one cares. It blows my mind." – A (07:53)

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2. Political Commentary and Double Standards <a name="political-double-standards"></a>

Selective Outrage and Hate Crime Debates (09:05 – 17:28):

• Both hosts lament the lack of coverage and public outrage, noting political violence is minimized or excused when victims are conservative, white, or male.
• They explicitly compare the handling of hate crimes:
  • If the roles were reversed or the victim was part of a "protected" group, the response would be swift and vehement.
• Suggest expanding hate crime statutes to include attacks based on political beliefs.

Notable Quote:

"You have a side of the country that will laugh about this... they'll mock it and... think this is okay." – B (09:05)

Call for Equal Protection:

"If it's a hate crime to assault somebody of a different color, religion... make it a hate crime to attack somebody for political reasons." – B (17:28)

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3. Crime, Patriotism, and Cultural Erosion <a name="patriotism-and-erosion"></a>

Patriotism Targeted (13:54 – 17:28):

• Discussion of Sheron's flags and military banners being torn down post-attack. The hosts express outrage at this disrespect and connect it to erosion of national pride.
• Reflection on how American freedoms are now “weaponized" to justify disrespecting the symbols veterans fought for.

Challenges for Citizens:

• It's dangerous to be visibly patriotic or conservative in public, risking vandalism or violence.

Frustration with Justice:

• The hosts debate the blurred line between protected free expression and acts meant only to incite or provoke violence.

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4. Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments <a name="notable-quotes"></a>

• On selective empathy:
  "If you're a white guy and you get beat up for your beliefs, the answer is 'suck it up'... If you had a Biden, Obama, or LGBTQ flag and got attacked, it would be a huge deal." – B (21:31)

• On the slippery slope of tolerance:
  "I now know how fascism starts because... you can't tolerate things for... At some point, you just can't. And you have to do a regime change." – A (07:53)

• On political respect:
  "If you wish death or destruction or ill will to the president, that's like getting on an airplane and hoping your pilot dies halfway through the flight." – B (19:24)

• On flag burning/free speech:
  "My personal opinion is that you should be able to burn a flag in your own private property... but it's inciting violence... disrespectful to do it in public." – A (16:35)

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5. Interview with Brandon Burton: Military Leadership & Moral Injury <a name="brandon-burton"></a>

Introduction & Motivation (59:02 – 61:57):

• Brandon Burton is a retired Army captain (20 years, both enlisted and officer) and author of Authority Without Control.
• Wrote the book for his granddaughter, then realized the lessons were relevant to all leaders—military, civilian, and beyond.

Key Interview Topics:

a. Generational Shifts & Declining Enlistment (61:15 – 63:03):

• Contrast between post-9/11 “why we joined” and the ambiguous motives for modern recruits.
• Newest generation questions the value and morality of current conflicts (e.g., US involvement in Israel).

b. Moral Injury and Leadership Responsibility (65:20 – 74:08):

• Soldiers today are more willing to challenge orders they see as unjust, presenting new leadership challenges.
• "There’s a moral injury when you’re put in a place and told to do something you cannot control.” – D (71:00)
• Moral injury and PTSD from being pressured into questionable actions may contribute to veteran suicides.

c. On Writing and Passing Down Wisdom (77:14 – 78:54):

• The book compiles leadership lessons for future generations, not just war stories.
• Writing proved therapeutic, aiming to help future leaders avoid past mistakes.

d. Conventional vs. Special Forces Storytelling (79:07 – 84:52):

• The vast majority of US military service members are not from elite units; “99%” are conventional troops whose stories matter but are underrepresented.

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6. Additional Discussion: Cop Culture, Media, and Audience Interaction <a name="additional-discussion"></a>

Cop/Funny Segments (24:03 – 29:36):

• Hosts share and react to videos of bike cops, patrol officers, and urban policing chaos—served with their trademark irreverence.
• Discuss internal police scandals (e.g., Tampa officers having sex on duty, OnlyFans controversies) and double standards in discipline.

Audience Interactions:

• Regular shout-outs for supporters (e.g., Nathan Thurman’s birthday, Patreon and app promotions).
• Banter with call-in guests and community members (e.g., “the 99,” Jaws Deli chat).

Comic Relief:

• Jokes about bike patrol, cop stereotypes, and “Jaws Deli”—a virtual meat-based meme community.

Controversial or Satirical Bits:

• Satirical proposal for a "Separate but Equal" firewall on the internet (109:11)
• Running jokes about masculinity, culture war, and blue-collar humor throughout.

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7. Timestamps for Key Segments <a name="timestamps"></a>

• Kerry Sheron Case Details: 05:40 – 13:54
• Political Double Standards/Rhets: 13:54 – 17:28
• Vandalism & Patriotism Discussion: 13:54 – 17:28
• Hate Crimes/Expanded Definitions: 17:28 – 19:22
• Jacksonville Crime/Police Shooting Breakdown: 39:39 – 45:36
• Brandon Burton Interview Begins: 58:44
• Writing, Moral Injury, and Military Reflections: 59:02 – 84:52
• Leadership Lessons and Book Discussion: 77:14 – 84:52
• Community Banter & Satire: 85:13 – End

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Key Takeaways

• The hosts use the Sheron murder as a prism to critique modern America’s "approved victims" and legal, media, and cultural inconsistencies.
• Both policing and military service are depicted as moral and practical minefields for working-class Americans, with the voices of regular soldiers and cops ("the 99%") underrepresented.
• Guest Brandon Burton delivers considered, nuanced insight into military leadership, the legacy of post-9/11 service, and the unique tragedy of the “invisible injuries” carried by veterans and first responders.
• The show blends heavy subjects with irreverent, blue-collar banter, satirical in-jokes, and interactive community spirit—all reflective of the “Antihero” identity.

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For Further Information:

• Brandon Burton's "Authority Without Control" is available for pre-order on Amazon.
• Antihero Patreon/App: Community, exclusive videos, and more at antiheroapp.com.

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End of Summary

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Nathan Thurman's birthday. He's been a OG supporter of Copville of anti hero from day one. Nathan always pumps our stuff counter everything. He's a, he's an OG of everything and one of the first guys that followed me when I started Cop Bill back in the day. So shout out to Nathan, Happy birthday my man.

[A]

All right, so the first topic and the main most important topic this kind of happened this broke yesterday. His death was Carrie Shernan sharon the the 69 year old army war vet that I guess passed away after he was brutally beaten. I guess he was in the hospital for a while and obviously that's been covered to some extent but there's some interesting takes now on the Internet about, you know, Carrie and what would have happened if this happened to it's, it's politicized already. First off it's a, it's a heinous crime to be to, to assault a 69 year old for no. For whatever. There's no reason to do it.

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No.

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So what's your take on that?

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I mean I'll read for anybody who I didn't see it. A man was beaten near to death outside his escando home with which is decorated in pro Trump memorabilia and may have been the motive for the attack. The attacker piece of was arrested and attempted murder charge in connection with the assault on Carrie East Mission Avenue and Buchanan around 2:15 Wednesday the police department a bystander who tried to intervene was also injured. When police arrived they found Sharon suffering from his significant injuries. He was hospitalized and at this point of this article he was still alive but not any longer. They're still in the investigating but he was attacked for his politics. They received threats before and this is the first time it turned violent. So you're right like if this is, if this is a MAGA supporter man it's, it's second page news and it's not a big deal. You throw any other demographic, any other imagine if the house was decorated in Black Lives Matter or any other, you know, Muslim, Somalian, Hispanic, Jewish. Yeah, Jewish and a 69 year old insert race, sex, color, creed. Demographic was beaten to death and they thought it was just because of that national news.

[A]

They're trying what's so what they're trying to do is they're trying to say that it wasn't politically motivated because the shipbag that did it voted Republican at one time. So they're saying well if he's Republican then we have to take the Political. No, it's. It's. It's a 100 politically driven. If this had happened to a trans person or to a black person or Muslim person or a gay person or a Jewish person, it'd be up in arms. But the poor guy falls into our category that, that straight white male and no one cares. It blows. Blows my mind. Conservative Anthony said, these people, the left, these crazy leftists need to be taken and put in shackles. And I say it, dude. We need concentration camps for the left. I understand now why fascism is a thing. I understand it. I don't agree with it. But you now know how fascism starts because it's. You can't tolerate things for. At some point, you just can't. And you have to do a regime change. And these people need to be locked up and taken away from society.

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Yeah. And it also, you're right, because we can't. We're stuck as straight white men. We. We have a lane we have to stay in. Right. Anytime we vary out of that lane, we're racist, We're. We're anti gay. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. But in our world, if you and I had this story and it was. It was. No matter what the demographics were, I would still condemn this. I would say if this was a black dude that was beaten by a group of white males, I'd be up in arms upset that this can't happen to us, can't happen to anybody. It's surely not an old man that maybe has that stuff flying in his. I don't condemn violence against anybody, and I like violence. But we can't. You have a side of the country that will laugh about this. Now. These are white guys. Let me back up. There are some racist, nasty, hillbilly, backwoods, shitty white supremacist people. They're a very small group. They're very small. I don't care what anybody says about the demographics of America. That is a very small group that really doesn't even get any press anymore. When's the last time you saw anything about the KKK or any type of those things? The only one is politically or they need it. So let's say those people are up. We don't like them, but we. We would condemn this under any circumstances. But there is an entire portion of the country, a very large portion that voted like tens, tens and tens of millions of people that voted for Kamala Harris and hate Donald Trump, that would. They just laugh about this and they. They think this is okay and they'll make jokes about it. They'll mock it and it's like, that's the. We're the only ones that can be mocked that way. We're the only ones that can be made fun of that way. We're the only ones that can be targeted that way with no real recourse. Your answer is going to be, hey bro, you're sweating. You're a white dude. Like, suck it up. Pick your brains up off the ground, you know, let your old wife there scrape your body up. They'll come get it, somebody will run a quick story and off in the ground you go. That's the options we have. Any threat of violence back taken very serious, any comments back even, you know, we get in the jest, joking, fooling around. We are held to a completely different standard. You watch like the Kevin Hart roasting and the things that these people can get away with saying in the name of comedy and it's okay. But yeah, this is a horrific act and half the country thinks it's funny and can even get out and say we should do more of this and nobody's gonna care. Nobody's gonna call that a hate crime. Nobody's gonna call the death till the white man or death to the white male anything. But no, they deserve it, right? They're white guys. They're terrible people. That's what's going to be said. So not a good time at all.

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I want my husband back because was my partner. Beautiful man.

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Thanks for Joining us on NBC 7 News at 5, I'm Monica Dean. Loved ones and friends are mourning the loss of an Escondido army veteran. He died from his injuries after being attacked outside his home. It is a home that's well known in the community due to its President Trump themed decorations. NBC 7 Chandel Meniz has more details from his loved ones. It's been less than a week since

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this surveillance video showed 69 year old

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Carrie Sharon outside his pro president Trump themed home when 32 year old Thomas

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Caleb Butler walked up to him, punched

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him in the jaw and kicked him twice in the head. The video doesn't show what led up

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to this, but prosecutors say it was an unprovoked attack.

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Last night at 10:43pm Carrie Sharon passed

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at Palomar Hospital and he passed on his own. There was no pulling the life support or anything like that.

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The San Diego District Attorney's office is reviewing the case to determine whether Butler's charges will change.

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I want my husband. What the.

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Yeah, man.

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Somebody decided that our stuff was not, not good. Look at this incredible. They even ripped the American flag. How up is that?

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The marine banner.

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They ripped that, Ripped down an American flags. Oh, I'm patriotic. Incredible. Yeah.

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Only in America, dude, you know, we talked about this yesterday. Only in America does the very freedom that young men and women die for in the, in the thousands and hundreds of thousands allows you to completely trash the nation, trash the government, trash the, the values. It's a, it's a wild, wild country. It really is. It's a really wild place.

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I mean, and the shitty part is you, you want to tell people like that, you know, hey, don't do that because you're just going to draw attention to yourself. These evil people out here are going to tear down your. But it's, it's their right to post that. It's their right to have those signs. It's a, I mean, it's, it's, it should be a duty to hoist the American flag, but it's, you know, if I was his grandson, I'd be like, grandpa, man, just don't do it. It's not worth it. It's like, you know, putting like a sticker on your car and hoping you don't get your car keyed. Like some people would say, but man,

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dude, like, that's the, that's the line. That's like going to law enforcement and saying, you know, you see big cities like where you're at, like, we're just going to stop enforcing the panhandlers, we're going to stop enforcing trespassing because we just can't keep up with it, right? We can't. Yeah, but when you loud, when you allow that stuff to go so far. So I'm not anywhere, nowhere do I think of like national policing and, and government overreach. But there has to be a line in the sand where you go, you just can't destroy the flag anymore. You can't go to somebody's house and do you have to hold people accountable? Where does this end? Where does it, where does this end? Because you can't defend property, right? You can't go out and shoot a guy for tearing up your flag or tearing up your front yard.

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What do you do?

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You go out there, Are you allowed to physically remove them? Are you allowed, like, where do we draw the line? Because in that case you would end up being the aggressor. A man beats guy who's, you know, oh, it's just property crime. But like, where's that line? So we have so much freedom, right? But so many people come here and hate the country, the, the very freedom that gives them the ability to hate it. They hate it so much that they start becoming destructive. And then we see all these takeovers, we saw these destruction of property, we see all these, you know, crime just being let run rampant. Where, where do we draw the line and go, okay, that's enough. And guess what? When we do draw that line, if we ever do the, the take back is going to look very ugly. It's going to look very ugly. But we let it get here. We let it get here. And when, where do we stop it? You know, 69 year old men getting beat to death because they support the president.

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That's. I think that's the line, Mike. I think that's where we should draw the line.

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Yeah, that's a good place to start

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war vet that city. Should I, I don't know, like the, the stupid age old tale of it's not illegal to burn a flag because it's what, it's the conundrum that is freedom. I know everybody's getting around it by saying, well, we'll arrest you for arson if you burn a flag in the street. We're going to arrest you for arson. So I mean, I think that you should be able to. My personal opinion is that you should be able to burn a flag in your own private property if that's what you want to do. But I think it's inciting violence, provoking rioting, it's. Do you know it's disrespectful to the nation to bring it out into a public place and do it. You're, you're doing it more now for a spectacle to incite some kind of emotion or elicit some kind of response than you are just doing it. If you hate America that much, go in your backyard and burn it yourself.

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Yes. And here's where this is what I would do if I was staying data, which you'll never do because they're liberal. If it's, if it's a hate crime to assault somebody of a different color, different religion, all that make it a hate crime to attack somebody for political reasons. If you have no reason. And I don't condone violence against anybody, but there are situations where you have to defend yourself, right? You're in the parking lot, somebody tries to rob you, somebody pulls all those things. We have to beat people up, we have to fight. But if you are targeted simply for supporting the president or supporting a political party, it shouldn't just go for one side or the other. It should, that should be considered some type of hate crime. If we can put it's illegal to talk bad about Jewish people in this constitue or in this statute book of Florida. Why not veterans? Why not people any violence against somebody simply using their political views. Why not enhance the penalties when you're attacking people, innocent people for no reason, vulnerable people, elderly. It should be enhanced immediately. It should be some penalty for that. And before, if you want to get that super chat real quick. And then I got one other thing on this. We got sean the chauvinist $10, it says just sending my support. I enjoy you guys. Do keep it up. We really appreciate it, man. Thank you.

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Yeah, man.

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This got into the Giants drama because somebody just commented the quarterback for the Giants simply which I think I would have done it for Obama. If you came to me and said you get an opportunity to introduce the president of the United States and any platform, I'm probably gonna go do it. Like I would like I'm, you know, I'm trying. You, you're. The goal is unity. Right? Regardless of who likes who. Who likes what. As a person, if I was of that stature and I had like the ability, I'm a professional athlete. My thing would be, hey, let's, let's put all that aside. Let's be good for America. And you may not agree with this guy, but I want America first of who's in charge.

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Respecting the president position.

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Correct. And you're respecting the presidency. So Jackson Dart from the Giants got the opportunity to introduce the president and it immediately went sideways. You got liberal New York. This guy's a great kid. It's. He's going into a second year. Phenomenal. Took over the NFL like highlight reels. You got half of New York going, fire him, get rid of him, cut him. He should be off the team for simply introducing the president of the United States. You even had teammates taking shots at him like, what are we doing here? What's going on? And then it kind of like they mended it. They were like, no, it was no big deal. But it just imagine, you know, it. It's so unfortunate that you as a, as a person can't go, I support the presidency. Like it's almost like I said this many times in my life. If you, if you wish death or destruction or ill will to the president, that's like getting on an airplane and hoping your pilot dies halfway through the flight. Like, I hope this guy, I hate that pilot. I hope he dies while we're flying. And it's like, who's gonna fly the plane. So it's like, why would you root for anything ill to a leader? You can disagree with them. But this. This goes into, like, the Pat Brosnan conversation last week, the Trump derangement syndrome. And, you know, basically, we're all, if you support the president, you're an extension of him, and you are. You are allowed to be attacked. You're allowed to be violence against you. And really, it's going to be like, oh, you're a white guy. Supports Trump. He deserved it. Like, that's what half the country's gonna say. And it's insane that we've got.

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He had a. He had. Was it a Muslim running back or receiver that was pissed off about.

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No, he had a black. No, it was a black. That was a Carter. Abdul Carter, who's a black linebacker.

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But. Yeah, but he's Muslim, right?

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Oh, he might be. Yeah.

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Yeah. The thing I read was that he. He. He was outspoken about it because, I mean, Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports, he did the same thing. Donald Trump wanted to talk to him, and he was like, man, if I do this, I want to piss off half of my audience. Half of my audience is going to get mad. And he goes, it. It's a president. Like, when do you ever. He's like, I'm not. I'm not gonna not interview the president. Like, it's the president.

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Yeah. Looks like Tom Brady, when Tom Brady got caught with the MAGA hat in his locker, and he's like, oh, yeah, right here. Yeah, yeah. And then he go, you know, he goes golfing with the president. It's like the same thing. It's like, I just don't. I don't know, man. You can't. We have to. We have to protect our elderly. We have to protect people, vulnerable people that just have political views. Like, you can't let. You know with all the random crime we have. Anyway, it's already crazy enough with stolen cars, carjackings, burglaries. Now we're going to start allowing just attacks on people for simply just supporting the opposite. And I'm telling you, if that was. If. If that goes back the other direction, like I said a hundred times, and you got attacked because you had a. A Biden, Obama or. Or an lgbtq, whatever it is, flag any of that stuff, or if you rode a bike, you get attacked for any of those reasons, then it's a huge. It's a huge deal.

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He out there throwing things at bike riders just for being alive.

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I got a really good Video for that when you're ready if you want to transition.

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Yeah, we can transition. We'll leave it at that. I mean, it's heinous and the. The left has lost their minds and it's just like Charlie Kirk, man. Like, it's. When something like this happens, everybody should bow their head and. No, nobody should be. I get it. Some of the more responsible, stable people, sane people go, hey, I might not agree with Trump, but we don't condone anything like this. But there's no outrage. They're just kind of saying it to say it. They're just saying it. So why they can be like, I said it. I said we don't condone this. There should be absolute outrage that a 69 year old man was shot for his bullies. I hope Trump does something.

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Beat. Beat. Wasn't shot.

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Beat. Oh, beat. Sorry. Would you think Trump will do anything?

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He might talk. I'll bet. Maybe his. The family end up somewhere with him, I would imagine when he. When he finds out about it.

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So what are we transitioning to?

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All right. Speaking of bike riding, I saw this video and I thought of you immediately. What was that? You call me a. I like that, bro. Hell yeah.

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What? No, I'm just calling y' all gay. Appreciate it.

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Money sucks, eh?

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Hell yeah. A lot of money.

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Yes, sir, Auxiliary cop.

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Love y'.

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All. Or no, sorry.

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What y' all do to get on bike patrol more than you've done your entire life?

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Oh, I bet Rich will fix all one word. I've created more dope than y' all

[B]

have done in your entire life.

[A]

What you do, Beat a black guy.

[B]

Rich will fix all one word. Love y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Peace. Listen, at the beginning, though, the cop does call him a. Listen, listen.

[A]

Gay.

[B]

What was that? You come.

[A]

That shit's funny as hell, dude.

[B]

I thought of you. I thought of you immediately. Yeah, And I saw, I guess that guy, some type of influencer or whatever, he harasses the cops, but you gotta take that.

[A]

Hey, you know what? He was actually good at it. He wasn't. He was just enough as insulting to be funny. He wasn't violent. And he. That would have been a hard guy to banter with back and forth. He was good on his feet.

[B]

This is what you do. Beat a black lad. Black guy. That's a slam dunk, dude. That's hilarious. See, that's where like there will be cops that will just get furious about the fact that we even laughed at that. And I think it's funny. And like, oh, my God. But That's. Dude, I'd take that. First of all, you'd never catch me on a bike.

[A]

Yeah, this isn't. This isn't. I mean, there's a. Everybody can make fun of me. There's a difference between Jack dudes out there at Outer Fest and ripping through cars, getting dope, guns, warrants, you know, at three in the morning and going up and talking to those guys. Those guys are gonna. You know, you might not, because those guys are gonna be. Come here. Come here. You smell like weed, man. Turn around. Oh, what's this? Oh, man. And then, boom, you're in handcuffs now because you just wrong people. Bike cops. Bike cops. Like, what are they gonna do?

[B]

I will say that I'm not gonna all the way. There are some decent bike cops in, like, downtown cities that get after it. That is probably the.

[A]

Dude, they put the little. What is that thing? The gladiator. What is it called?

[B]

The gay and angel. The gay DN Angel. The guardian angel light that blocked me, by the way. Yeah, they got that. But I'm saying there are. I've seen some bike cops get down, so I'm not gonna. On all of them.

[A]

Them.

[B]

You know, our board. Our board. Gravy, man. Yeah, but, yeah, that was hard, dude.

[A]

He fell.

[B]

That was the ultimate. I would be like. I said I'd never end up on a bike, but if I did, that would be. I'd turn that into that day. I'd be like, here, you can keep this thing.

[A]

I'll go back to patrol.

[B]

Dude, I'll take calls. Like, I'm not gonna have this guy follow me around. Call me gay.

[A]

So that shit's funny as hell. I got some. Dude, I've got some really good videos. Hold on. I've been waiting to play some videos, dude, where you get so busy all the time? First off, I want to know. I know Six Jedis is working right now, but I want to know what the this is about. They LAPD shuts down a concert, man, and it looks like the same old. For those of you listening, one squad car is trying to get out of this situation, and it's not going well. They're spray paint in the car while he's trying to drive away. Like, is he blocked in?

[B]

I don't know. You should be able to run.

[A]

Oh, oh, Dude, I don't know, man. You just get out and you start beating the. Out of somebody or tasing people. Like, dude, I know he's by himself. I know there is that worry. I really do. I'm not Like, I know that that can go one of. That could go one of two ways. He can either work and everybody runs, or they can all dogpile him. And then he's in, like, some Blackhawk down, Somalia scenario where he's overrun by metal heads.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Gets out, start spraying people with pepper spray from his driver door.

[B]

Oh, they're missing.

[A]

So they'll sit there. People will sit here, look in the eye and say, majority of people support police, but I don't see anybody supporting this cop here. Right now. He's stuck in traffic. Dude, if I saw this going on, I mean, I really don't know what I do, but, I mean, what would

[B]

you do if I saw it as a civilian?

[A]

Yeah, you just monitor him and make sure he doesn't die. I guess that's.

[B]

Yeah, I would have my. I would probably park, get my gun ready, and if it got to that point, I would hop out and probably make myself famous. You don't want to see anything bad happen to him.

[A]

They're throwing. They're throwing objects at his car, like huge objects. Now he's getting out. I decided to turn off because it's the siren wailing. Yeah. Still.

[B]

Yeah, that's bad, dude. Videotaping.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Excellent,

[A]

dude. I think I got more. Dude, look at this. Look at this. You think this is real cop and nypd. It looks like she's smoking weed.

[B]

Yeah, that's smoking weed now.

[A]

That's crazy. She cheaping.

[B]

That's crazy. Yo.

[A]

Like that weed. How do you know?

[B]

Yeah, well, there's some people. There's some people we met up there during a chicane thing that smoke weed,

[A]

but they're a lot of smoke on. They just smoke on duty.

[B]

But, I mean, they. They all have weed cards. Like, Jersey police are allowed to use marijuana.

[A]

But she. That you're. That's not like ripping a sig, dude. That's like you're intoxicated on duty.

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

I. I guess she ain't a cop for very much longer.

[B]

I mean, she's female.

[A]

How do you smoke weed out the back door of the precinct?

[B]

Just like that.

[A]

People aren't like, damn, who's smoking weed out back again? It smells like Becky.

[B]

Becky.

[A]

Becky's out there smoking weed.

[C]

Flat back.

[B]

Becky?

[A]

Yeah. That for you guys listening?

[B]

Yeah, that's what happens. That's when the black taser comes out, man. You make that mistake.

[A]

Yeah, dude, you're like, stoned out of your mind. That was an NYPD female just ripping a joint out back of. Looks like a. Looks like A government building down the precinct.

[B]

Because. Because.

[A]

Oh, all right. So there's another thing I wanted to cover. Dude, we need to get into news.

[B]

I got a couple news things.

[A]

All right, let's. What's. Let's run. Let's knock them out.

[B]

Hopefully I'm ready.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you. It's a crapshoot because you can't see the screen.

[D]

No.

[A]

All right, hold on. What's the deal with this? Tampa Bay, Tampa, Tampa Bay.

[B]

All the way. Tampa cops quit amid probe into alleged on duty sex with each other. Two Tampa Police Department officers resigned this week while the agency investigated allegations they met with emergency dispatcher engaged in sexual activity while on duty. The Tampa Bay Times first reported the departures. Nothing, noting the department records described the officers as suspected of meeting with an emergency dispatcher and engaging in sexual activity while they're supposed to be working the police department. Standard operating procedures directed allegations of misconduct being investigated by internal affairs. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So far, there's no public criminal filings. But diving into this, one of the officers used a mobile data terminal.

[A]

Is this not what cops do all the time? I don't.

[B]

And messaged the dispatcher and said, hey, babe, I'm not in that little car anymore. I got an suv, so it's a better place to meet. Allegedly, based on investigation, he went, then went and met with her, and when asked about the message, you know what happened. Right. He forgot that he sent that message. It doesn't remember anything about it. So this is just the public. Yeah. The department has not made a statement yet, but that is a criminal. That's actually criminal to have sex on duty. So there you could see some criminal charges, but. Yeah, two different guys with the same dispatcher. But she loves me. Well, she loves more than just you, buddy. So Tampa's a disaster, by the way. Obviously. Yeah. You got the member Ruth, Kate, the deputy chief fired for taking kickbacks on possible firearms money for the SIG, pushing it 30 by 30 agenda and actually paying female canine handlers canine pay who had been removed from the unit. All kinds of crazy. Now you have, if you can believe. Guys are banging dispatchers. Can you believe that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On duty.

[A]

On duty.

[B]

In the patrol car. In the patrol car.

[A]

That's where you. That's where you lose the. Yeah, that's how we've always done it thing. I know tons of cops were dating dispatchers but never had sex on duty. Like I said, we've heard of some predatorial people using the GPS for that. So like I said, at least it was consensual and he. These cops weren't like stalking and harassing

[B]

but it's still, it's a crime. Anytime sex is on duty it's criminal behavior. Unless you're the inner county sheriff. Then you're okay, you can get away with it.

[A]

But anybody else like taking money?

[B]

Yeah. What's part of this? Yeah, you can't have sex on duty.

[A]

Oh I know that I'm asking like what's the charge?

[B]

It's part of a crime. It's like crim. It's like I can get you the exact crime but it's, it's up there in that like ethics.

[A]

Like, like public servant. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You can't do porn if you didn't know that. Like we have some females and some guys that forget they can't. We had. The Palm beach county story is re breaking again. But it's an old story. It's like a year old. But Palm beach county deputy was making only fans content and got in trouble. Guys have sex on duty with in trouble but you know it depends on who you are. That's where I go with this is if this is the chief or this is somebody in the command staff. This is, this is in. We're going to look into it. We're going to investigate, we're going to do this. But if you're a deputy or just a cop it's the dumbest thing ever. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending anybody doing this dumb but if you're a line level cop you're fired and in the news and probably arrested. If you're a sheriff who like I said in our county absolutely was on duty having sex with another man's wife and it's just called an affair. So it just depends on who you are and how and how it's investigated. But that. And that's why people. It's unfortunate that you know the citizens and cops really have no ability to investigate these high ranking people. But like I said these two guys. Dumb, dumb stuff. Using agency. It's all dumb. An agency computer to message a dispatcher and say my car now has more room so that's a good place to meet.

[A]

And then just what a dumbass.

[B]

I forgot I didn't remember sending that mess. You absolutely remembered this tingling in your heart and the little goosebumps when you sent the dispatch of the message that you're gonna bang her in her car. That it's very well remembered. We all know it was remembered but he forgot so and it was more Than one dude, if you can believe it. Banging the same girl.

[A]

Yeah, I can believe that. I'm sure she was. I'm sure she was. Had enough weight to go around for the both of them. Moving on, a little bit of entertainment news. Have you ever seen the show Mobland?

[B]

No.

[A]

Apparently it's co written by. It's co written or. Or written by the guy that did Sons of Anarchy and the. The mountain movie with the cowboys or the show. What's the far. What's the cowboy show? Everybody loves Yellowstone. Yeah, Yellowstone. So apparently the same director, but Tom Hardy, was fired from Paramount's Mobland Season 3. Tom Hardy isn't exactly a stranger to this concept, but he's reportedly learning this lesson the hard way after usual antics have come to light on the set of Mob Land, starring Hardy as a fixer and cleanup man for London crime family. The show. It actually seems like a really good show. I've read this and I was like, oh. The show seemed well on its way to success at the top of the platform streaming charts. Unfortunately, while season two has already wrapped, it appears that a third season is no longer the cards for Hardy. There's reports that Hardy has been let go from production for season three. They have not picked up their contract with him for the lead actor after allegations of habitually arriving late to set, butting heads with producers and attempting to change dialogue and give other script notes and griping about the starring vehicle becoming more of an ensemble. But I think I'm a big Tom Hardy fan. He's a drop.

[B]

You gotta see it, man.

[A]

He's like a purple belt in BJJ or something.

[B]

Betty doesn't ride a bike.

[A]

Yeah, this. That type of dude. He gets fired from a mob show. Dude. You know you're hard when the mob show fires you, but either way, a little bit of entertainment news. I all that. One thing I do want to cover

[B]

though is Justin says that we have an awesome show. I took that out of context and made it like he was saying our show was awesome.

[A]

Awesome show.

[B]

Oh, he was talking about the other show, but we don't talk about that.

[A]

There. There's this. So I think the most recent shooting in Jacksonville, Florida, it's this home invader guy. Now I sent it to you and you just harder.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is it up? No. All right. There you go. So this guy is walking around committing home invasions with a firearm and. Jacksonville County Sheriff's Department. Is that where their department.

[B]

Jacksonville Sheriff's office.

[A]

Sheriff's office puts a Abrupt end to that. Let's check this out. We're watching ring doorbell camera of this guy with a pistol in his hand and sandals. He's jiggling the doorknob kind of doing like he's listening to the ring doorbell and he starts donkey kicking the door in. Like the back from facing outward. Starts booting the door. There's no sound. I don't hear. Oh, because I got the wrong thing. Just broke the door down. I guess I wasn't expecting the homeowners. Real quick, it says the Jacksonville Fuller sheriff's office says officer shot neutralized 33 year old Brandon Capers who had broken into several homes and pointed his weapon at residents. According to Jacksonville sheriff's office, he had a criminal history including aggravated assault with a weapon, false imprisonment of a minor and other charges. If he had survived his injuries, he would have been arrested for armbergular firearm, aggravated assault firearm, all these different types of charges. So now we're going into. Now there's more footage. We're leaving the ring doorbell camera and going into like what looks like another house camera and he's walking by people that are calling 91 1. He's got this pistol out. This is him right here. Oh, road units show up. That looks pretty standard. They're most likely probably think they're coming to something that's over with by the way. Their cars are staged but either way or they parked far away and maybe they were planning their, what they were going to do and this guy just came walking up on them. So she points them out. This is him right there. There's what, three, four cops standing there and he decides he's gonna brandish his pistol and end his own life essentially. And they helped, they assisted him to the ground. Yeah, they're blocked 9 millimeters.

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

but yeah, dude, that's, that's, that's, that's some real. Man, that is.

[B]

What if I told you that they've shot two more people since that video?

[A]

Since that video. What are we at? 12, 13.

[B]

Let's see. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. Back 10. They didn't kill the last two. So that was on. That was on May 4th. They shot another guy on May 6th. The white guy. They shot another white guy on May 14th. So they're at 10 this year.

[A]

You gotta keep those white guys up

[B]

to not be killed. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. So they're, they're over 500. They're batting over 500. They've killed 6 of 10. And I think it's very cool. Like, I said that. Not that they kill people, but they're very cool that they keep the transparency they actually have on their website. It goes. It shows you every officer involved, type of crime, demographics, body cam release video, all that stuff for each one of them and the status of the case. They are one of the most transparent agencies in Florida. TK Waters is the sheriff, and I think he does an amazing job.

[A]

He kind of got you.

[B]

Yeah. They have their actual crime certificate statistics on there, too. It's.

[A]

What do they have? Their what?

[B]

The crime statistics.

[A]

So the crime statistics, you go to

[B]

their transparency protocol, and they have had 18 murders since in this year. This is May. 18 murders, 81 traffic fatalities, 81 traffic fatalities, 980 DUI arrests, and 953 firearms recovered. They've already. They're. They're 10 ahead on their fatalities for traffic, which is. Yeah, that 11,000 traffic crashes. Can you imagine these numbers?

[A]

Dude, no,

[B]

they. 5700 traffic. Civilian cameras in use, like people allowing their cameras to be shared.

[A]

And how many men? How many? Do you know how many deputies they have, give or take?

[B]

Let me look. How many?

[A]

I know Orange county was supposed to have like 2400 or maybe 2000, something like that.

[B]

2000 sworn.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, they just.

[B]

With an additional 950 corrections and another 800 civilian staff.

[A]

Gotcha. I think.

[B]

How many in Orange County?

[A]

I think around 200, but Orange county is really condensed.

[B]

So I got a message about your county a little while ago.

[A]

Was it good?

[B]

It was mocking, I think. Your old co. Host had a female on, right?

[A]

My old. Kay. What. What? K. Right.

[B]

Fisak.

[A]

Oh, he. Yeah, While I was. When I was on, I. He.

[B]

You're on it. You didn't know.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So I got a message about that. And then somebody was saying that because I mentioned she. They saw my meat mocking your sheriff. Old sheriff's gun grip, which was horrible. And then we were laughing about her.

[A]

Got one more video before we take a commercial break. I just think this is funny. For those of you listening, this is who we're referring to when we say big sarge. And this is a big old Atlanta PD sergeant just duking it out with somebody. Look at this guy. He's got his pants pulled down. All those walking around making fun of him, too. He ain't got

[B]

what he put him in.

[A]

Timeout over there.

[C]

Oh, they killing y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

Stop.

[A]

Why y's taking this st. Oh, well, well, well. I didn't know there was a twist to this video. Oh, my God.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Why y' all stealing that?

[A]

Not.

[B]

They argued over somebody else.

[A]

Wow. Hey, what a good note to go to commercial break on though, right?

[B]

It's the end of the world as we know It.

[A]

You want me to hum my song?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

All right.

[B]

You like my shirt?

[A]

Anti Dai pro Merit. I like it.

[B]

They're not for sale yet, but they will be soon. We'll see after the break.

[A]

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[B]

No,

[A]

Still can't hear you.

[B]

It shows. His mic is.

[A]

Oh, yeah, there you go. Still can't hear you.

[B]

Fire the producer.

[A]

Yeah, right. You gotta fire me. You might have to. If you could. Can you hear us, Brandon? You might have to back out, like, go hit the back button and come back in the. Into the lobby. But make sure you select your audio and make sure you select the right microphone because it's. We're not getting any. We can see you, obviously, but we can't hear you. So are we going to Talk about the new political stuff. I think. I honestly think your. Your cool sign should have that right there on your shirt. On my merit, I think. I think anti dei, though, is going to come. It's going to come off sexist, just like pro America is racist. Like, I'm anti dei. We are sexist.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you probably shouldn't use that.

[B]

I'll just send a picture. I got something.

[A]

Got a little something for you.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see.

[A]

Got a little something for you.

[B]

Like Clint says, got something for you.

[A]

Thanks, babe. Did you check it?

[B]

You're welcome. Okay, we can do the guest. We'll talk about that after. The guest.

[A]

All right. My wife brought me coffee. I. Close the door.

[B]

Get the out of here.

[A]

All right. How are you now? Still can't hear him? Nope. I can hear it. So I can. I can hear what he's saying. I can see what he's saying. But, yeah, you. You were getting nothing on your little meter icon down here, which would indicate if there was a tech issue and it was on our end, it would still be lighting up, but it's not even lighting up. So your computer is not receiving your audio Some way shape or form for him. App. I can't hear him.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

All right, so what do we got? You sending a picture?

[B]

I got it. This little preview.

[A]

I'm excited. Let's see what this is.

[B]

Tasty.

[A]

Addicted to caffeine, man. Serious leadership for safer communities. Dilks for sheriff. What is this?

[B]

Just a couple guys fooling around with some graphics. That's all it is.

[D]

Whoa.

[B]

Nothing crazy.

[A]

Relative of yours?

[B]

Yeah. Well, you know, Michael Dogs is a pretty common name, so I just happen to find this, you know, out there, you know, interesting. Interesting stuff. But you never know, you know, maybe that person will see what happens.

[A]

It's exciting.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see. It's a process. If. If, you know, hypothetically, if somebody was going to run, you have to open a bank account, you have to go fill out paperwork, all that stuff.

[A]

Has that hypothetical person done such things yet?

[B]

Yeah, I think the guy I talked to did fill out some paperwork and just has to return it to the office, and then, you know, it could end up on the ballot. It's crazy. You know, and they, you know, I was. You know, they said, you know, when you're little, they tell you, you can do anything you want, man, be anything you want in life. I wanted to be an astronaut, but, you know, when I found out we didn't land on the moon, I was a little upset.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Can you hear us? Nothing.

[A]

Hey, here. Here's the thing. Justin, our. One of our producers, Justin, he's in the chats. He's going to try and help you out. I just sent you a link on Instagram that he told me to send you, and then he's going to take it from there. I'm gonna put you guys in a group chat together and then we can try and get this figured out. All right? We got plenty of time. No stress. All right.

[B]

I wonder if it's because sometimes we're both in here.

[A]

Nah, it would still be. It would still be. It would be lighting up down here. We just wouldn't be able to hear it.

[B]

Yeah. So if, you know, you have political aspirations, you know, they tell you you should. You should, you know, strive to achieve your dreams, and we'll see. Common sense is pretty. Common sense goes far.

[A]

I. I can't. I can't do the producer thing and the.

[B]

What do you need? What do you want me to do?

[A]

Yeah, and the hosting at the same time. A. I'm talking.

[B]

I'm good.

[A]

No, you're good. But I'm trying to.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, don't forget that today is Tuesday. Is G Money canceling on his own show tonight? Is he doing it?

[A]

I have no idea what the Nick's doing. I haven't heard from him in days.

[B]

Yeah. So maybe, maybe not. Nick will have the G Money show tonight. If not, you know, tomorrow will be on here from 1 to 3pm like always. And then tomorrow night at 7pm, you'll have hot Topic with Dominic, Gizzle and Cobbill. And it is what it is, man.

[A]

Sometimes when I start the show, I get. I can't figure out what is where, what is. OG's only like 99 stuff that we should talk about other people. And then what, we should let rip on the Internet? Probably absolutely nothing that we should let rip on the Internet, but I think

[B]

we should let it all rip. But that's. That's me. I'm gonna get outnumbered.

[A]

There's. There's a lot going on.

[B]

There is a lot going on. That one I wouldn't rip.

[A]

Are we gonna go live on Patreon this week?

[B]

Sure. Cobbville comes out tomorrow. Noon. The recorded episode. Yeah, always. I forgot to pump my own show. I need a banner or flag. Yeah, Cottville. Noon tomorrow. That's my own show. So we'll talk. Because I found out again, if you guys don't know this, as a politician, like I alluded to before, you can do whatever you want. You can, you can do whatever you want. So I'll tease a little bit. I made a formal complaint to the state attorney's office for all the ethics stuff that I had where the ethics commission said because I wasn't present then even having public records showing there's corruption, I wasn't present for it. So it's hearsay. So I forwarded a complaint to the state attorney's office Sunday. I forgot yesterday they were closed. I got a response back from the state attorney's office that also said it's not our responsibility to investigate the sheriff either. Whose is it now? It apparently is the Florida Department of Law Enforcement job to investigate. So I've submitted the complaint there as well. So what I've learned is once you're elected or appointed until position of authority, you don't have any rules. You can do whatever you want. And it is pretty wild that that's the case because we know, like, I know people who've like, tried to complain about agencies out there. Pete and I have friends and, you know, that have tried to complain about agencies and they basically go, yeah, we investigated it ourselves. We're good. Like, we didn't do anything wrong. There's just nowhere for people to go. Let's see if it worked.

[A]

I think, I think it did.

[D]

I mean, this time.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

Welcome to the show. Let me take it.

[D]

Yeah, sorry about that. I'm not. I'm not good at technology anymore, so.

[B]

All right. Tyler's not either.

[A]

Yeah, I'm the main producer of the show and I suck at it.

[D]

Yeah, it's not for everybody.

[B]

I was on today.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So, Brandon, you wrote a book, Authority Without Control. What made you want to write a book?

[D]

Just became a grandpa. I got a four month old little granddaughter. My first, first time being a grandpa. And I was thinking about, you know, all the changes that come with that. And I had some pretty cool grandparents, and that generation just never wrote anything down. So all I had left from them was, you know, oral histories, some cool stories here and there. Well, I guess I better be the one who writes some stuff down. And to start, I'm just gonna do my 20 years in the army, started writing some stuff down, and people said, hey, that's kind of good. You should keep going. And so I kept going. Publisher got a hold of it and said, you're gonna sell this? I said, no, I just want some. Some copies for my grandkids. And they said, nah, that wasn't a. That wasn't a question. You're Gonna sell this. Like, oh, all right, well. And here we are. It kind of took off. It got some steam on pre sale a couple radio shows, and now it's just become this life lessons book that I was able to piece together from all, all of my mistakes.

[A]

What. I'm sure this writing, this book jogs your memory over the last couple decades. What is the. As a. And you retired as what rank?

[D]

I was a captain when I retired.

[A]

Okay, so. But you were enlisted at one point, right?

[D]

Yep, I was enlisted up to E5 and it went to OCS, traditional OCS.

[A]

What year did you go to OCS?

[D]

2006.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we were. We were. Yeah, we're still. We were still kind of the. In my, my, my version of the real military back then.

[D]

Yeah, BDU's black boots. It was. Even in my 20 years, I got to watch a huge cultural change and unfortunately now I still work as a government employee and I've seen us lose all the whole warrior culture that we had built for 20 years instantly gone. Instantly. Just sad.

[A]

What, what is, what would you say to kids joining the military now and what the. The kids that you saw join in the heyday of your career? Because we see all these tick tocks and everything with these kids, and it doesn't really seem like the warrior mindset is there anymore for the military. I could be wrong, could be algorithm fed, you know, but I could also just be getting old and being like, these kids don't know anything. We might see these, you know, kids coming into cop work kids, you know, joining the military. And it's like, you know, I know there's kids out there that want to go and fight the military and do what the country needs them to do, but it doesn't look like the pickings are as big.

[D]

No, no, it doesn't. And then again, so like you said, every generation wants to say, oh, you're just. You're not tough no more. Everyone has said that about the following generation. So to zoom out and be intellectually honest, you look at, well, what is their why the Cold War kids? In my book, I kind of talk some about the Cold War generation because, like, why did you join? There was no war. You just wanted free college.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, whereas. And then I look at my generation, like, we joined because of one day. We watched our country be attacked. We were angry. That was our why. So now, sticking with that same thought process, what's a kid's why in 2026? You know what, you, you feel good about going to hit somebody for Israel. You feel good about protecting somebody that doesn't really protect us. Like, there's a lot of stuff out there that kids are asking these questions, going, you know, what. What is my. Why do I just.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, this, that conflict alone, dude, is like, you know, you imagine being 22 years old and you're like, yeah, I think I'm doing join the military. And then every. You start reading and hearing everything about this Israel conflict. And, you know, I. That the whole thing just blows my mind. I'm trying to keep it very PG13 right now because obviously I just, I keep. I look back in all the wars now, and as I'm almost 40, I'm like, I don't really know. There's a. Okay, let's say there's a chance that every single war we fought in the last 150 years was fabricated and political and not unnecessary. I mean, I used to say, well, back all the way to World War or World War II, right? That was the last real war. And now I'm like, man, it's, you know, it's 2026, and you're like, they're certain people are lying about everything. And narrative, so easy to paint. Back then, what'd you have? You didn't even have the local news. You just had the newspaper telling you exactly what's going on in the world. And that's it.

[D]

Yeah, one voice. And you got one. One thing to get behind, you know, one, one, one rallying cry, no other information coming out. It's. That's a hard one for me to deal with, you know, 21, watching Afghanistan collapse and the feeling that that was my entire adult life, that was my career. That was everything I've done as an adult professional, gone. Instantly gone. And that makes you look go like, did. Did I do any good? And you gotta zoom in. You gotta think, okay, well, yeah, there were Afghan kids who got to go to school for 15, 20 years. They're probably all dead now. But, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, zoom in. Did I do good on those days? Yes. I helped human beings on that mission on that day in that place. Because if you zoom out, it gets depressing. You can't do that. You gotta hunt that. Hunt the small stuff, right? Did I do good while I was there when I could do good? And you just got to hold on to that.

[A]

What would you do right now if you were at NCO in 2026 and, hey, we're getting ready to go here, and you had actual soldiers saying, I'm not going to do this And I say that because during the Iraq war, had any of us had half a brain, we would have been like, oh, this conflict's retarded. But none of us were. But now kids seem to want to know everything or do know a lot. And you're seeing soldiers on tick tock and stuff say, like, hey, if I were to get these orders, I wouldn't. I wouldn't follow through with them, and I just wouldn't know what to do as a leader in the military, when your subordinates are saying, yeah, I'm not doing this.

[D]

Yeah, that's wild. That's a. So there's a generational change that we were just talking about of our generation wouldn't have done that unless it's blatantly illegal, you know, yeah, you're gonna go murder these people. No, that's. That's black and white. That's easy. But to ideologically disagree with an entire conflict, that's. That's new. That's this generation that's saying, no, I'm not gonna blindly. I'm not gonna blindly follow. And it makes it frustrated for a leader, but also, I can't fault them. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what I would do. I've. I've luckily had pretty disciplined soldiers. I've had. I have great children. Like, I've never had to. Had to someone just be that defiant. But it is a hallmark of not only this generation of kids, but like I said, their information that they get what they're exposed to, they're gonna. They're gonna speak up more than generations before them.

[A]

I mean, Mike knows. Oh, go ahead.

[B]

Good. I was gonna say, do you like, on that point would be like how we kind of go after the cop. We. I lean more towards the cop world. But the same thing is where they say, well, oh, cops are bad cops. If good cops get in the job and maintain that good order. Yeah, maybe like you're saying the military is doing things for the wrong reasons, but, like, you had good days. Like, I. I actually tried to do the right thing while I was there. If we give up completely and just say, nobody ever joined the military again, obviously we can't sustain our nation without protecting it, but we still need people to join. So that's where that little conundrum comes in. Kind of like policing, where we go, well, the job's all up. And we do highlight that a lot. But we still need good guys that get into the job and understand that it's up but still willing to perform. So how. How would you how do you navigate that in your head? Like, don't go support just blindly for Israel or whoever else you're. You know, blindly. But we still need you to join. Like, where's. Where is that? What do we do? How does that look?

[D]

Yeah, so that's where we. We don't look at the. Don't look at the. The private. Don't look at the Joes. You got to look at field grades, you know, colonels and up those battalion levels, those strategic decision makers, because those are the guys now that can look at a mission and say, nah, now that ain't it. But we understand we have to do something. So here's what we're gonna do. If you got good leaders at the, you know, strategic level, now Joe doesn't have to worry about it. Give Joe a mission that he can believe in. Don't say, yep, we know this is up. Do it anyway. Or else, like, no, no.

[A]

Well, yeah, because I was gonna say, how many times in the military have your entire chain of command looked down and you said, we know this is. Just do it. It's just. It's just easier to do it and get it done rather than fight it all the way back up. Like, what? Yeah, we're. So we're gonna unload this conex, but on Tuesday, we gotta unload it again. Why don't we just wait till Tuesday? Nope. Just do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You're never going to get rid of that completely. That's, you know, the nature of the military. You know, it. It's the bittersweet stuff that we look back at, and we hated it when we were doing it, and now we joke about it. It's when that becomes a moral issue that you're asking Joe to risk his life or take a life for something that is just not worth that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's where leaders have to. Leaders have to protect from the top down.

[B]

That's the part. That's the part. Because I look at policing is individuals, and then military is a group. So where I get that is if your chief or your captain calls down and says, hey, go do this, like, just to you as a cop, you're like, man, this is up. But, like, they're telling me to do it. I don't know what to do. I'm in. That bad. So you're one guy here. It's like the same scenario, but now you got a hundred guys that are being told to go do something that's completely wrong. You're gonna have more kickback and more conversation. Group 100 guys, unfortunately, just like the single guy that gets, you know, the cop, nobody really has any recourse to go, I'm not doing it. Or, or. I don't agree with that. And that's where I think, honestly, that's where some of the mental health and all these issues that they ignore. That's. I didn't. Just because I didn't see somebody blow up. I've been told to do something I don't agree with, and I'm being so pressured to do it that I'm in that my mind is going back and forth and I'm going crazy. Right. I'm sure a lot of guys deal with that. It's like, this is bad. Like, I. This is a bad idea. And then you're in a firefighter, you end up killing somebody. You're like, we shouldn't have been here in the first place. Imagine the mental health issues that a guy would face in that scenario. You know, that's. That's where I look at it. Like, that's the un. Unsung area of mental health that nobody wants to talk about.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Nobody wants to.

[D]

That cold, quiet day where, yeah, there were no explosions, there were no blood. But you come back with a moral injury because you were put into place and told to do a thing that you were. You could not control. Here you're in charge, young officer. There is no good decision. You only can make decision.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Now deal with that.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Nobody understands the, the. The scars that leaves. And it's like, I've been on search warrants, like other things. You're like, should we really be here? Like, is this really the crime of the set? But you're, you know, it's something bad. I can think back to several incidents where I. Old guy get beat up that had no reason to get beat up. There's really no way to talk about it. And these guys did it. And it. That's just one incident. Then you get on the military scale, like you say, you could end up in a firefight, a raid. You end up killing a bunch of innocent people. And you're like, we should have never been here in the first place. But you can't go tell anybody that.

[D]

Who are you gonna tell?

[B]

You're gonna tell Joe, Joe private, your buddy in the barracks when you get back. But you can't go knock on the captain's door and be like, hey, we. We shouldn't have done that today. Like, you can't do that. It's not you.

[D]

You tuck it down deep and you you grill yourself on that question for the next 20 years of your life and you start drinking and ruining marriages and yeah, that's, that's what happens.

[B]

And you're just a piece of like, oh, he's a piece of. He's a terrible guy.

[D]

And then you write a book about it. So hopefully the next lieutenant, the next sergeant who's in that shoes, hey, I heard the story once. I'm not gonna do that.

[A]

So that, yeah, yeah, that is what

[D]

this book turned into for me is to addressing things like you just said, addressing those days, hey, don't handle it the way I handled it. Here's how, here's how you should do it. And it gets one of those stories that if you don't tell it, then somebody else is going to have to relearn it the same way I did.

[A]

Well, it's also hard to work. They're not going to learn.

[B]

They're not going to learn. And they're also going to be ridiculed because people who don't know the scenario are going to say, well, you should have said something then. And they don't understand it.

[D]

Yeah, it's not possible.

[B]

There's just times it's not possible. I think back in my career when I was asked to do things, I'm not talking about murdering people or just dumb little things where you're like, this doesn't seem right. Like some. One of them was like when I had buy money and I was told to go buy two of the secretary's jackets, and I'm like, this money's for buying drugs, like on the street. No, you're good. Just go do it. You know, we don't get the budget and all that good. And then I think back and I'm thinking, that's illegal. And if that guy was willing to ask me to do that, what else was he doing that I didn't know about? And then, you know, you get it on this level of, of, of mass operations and, and raids, and it's just, man, people's ill intentions could end up, you know, that's why we have 22 suicides a day, I think, in the mill with military guys. I don't think those are all because of war. I think a lot of that has to do with what we're talking about right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And managing the stress from that. So let's say you even. You do get over. You can, you can morally forgive yourself for those situations that you had no choice. But your brain, the damage that's done from that kind of stress day in and day out. Yeah, it's, you know, there's a. Another structural problem. There's a chemical change in your brain that's going to take even longer to fix that physical damage, to undo the wiring and those beliefs. Yeah, that kind of stress, it ain't it, you know?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

What's. The. What's. What is looking back and you've. Like I said, you've written this book and it's definitely opened up some neurological pathways that maybe you have closed off. But to, to bring the mood back up a little bit. What is the dumbest thing you've ever seen Joe do? Whether it be something you just saw, you were involved with, got brought to your attention. It doesn't have to be anything where people got in trouble, but just like the dumbest things, because we've all been Joe's. We've all been there. But what's like the, the dumbest Joe story that you've ever seen?

[D]

We were out on a range in Bagram. So in country, when you go to the range to just practice train, whatever, you're outside the wire.

[A]

You're.

[D]

You're out in Afghanistan, you're just pretty close to Bagram. It was a range. Everyone's using this range, though, all sorts. You know, they've got at 4s out there. Every foreign military, so lots of ordinance gets sprayed out there, but it's a range, so you expect it. Our, our SEC 4 platoon was out there one day just, you know, doing what boys do. And someone's seen a. The tail section of a. Of an at four round, 84 millimeter stuck in the ground with just a fin sticking out. And the day started with, you know, platoon sergeant, hey, keep the fire over here. Leave the UXO alone. Next thing you know, someone takes a shot at the uxo. Somebody else, somebody sees. Somebody sees the dirt kick up and they go, oh, I'm gonna take a shot. And they take a shot. Now it's a contest. Someone hits it, goes off cartoon style. Just unbelievable. Well, that didn't slow anybody down. Now it's a free for all. Now it's, hey, I got this frag that's not on the books. Hell yeah, let's throw a frag. It's watching boys who love violence, who are geared up for it. How slippery a slope. Yeah. Range to chaos. Oh, it's dumb, but I love it. Like knowing that the boys had that kind of fuse on him, like. Yep, that's. That's what we want. Good. Good job. Yeah, we actually an E7 lost his job over there.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he's got to be one hit on the chopping block. What?

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Sorry. Toon star.

[A]

You know, obviously, teaching new leaders is the premise of this or the. I'm assuming is the whole. It was the point of jotting down these things was it was started for you, and then it became now there's kind of like some kind of, like, point to it where you're able to pass off the information to others. And I mean, what's it. What's it like in the process of writing a book? I've never really gotten a straight answer. I've asked a lot of authors this. You know, is there money involved? Do you get paid up front? Do you get paid on the back? Do you get paid per book? Do you get paid anything? Do you get paid a lot? Like, is. And how long does it take to write a book? And are the publishing companies working with you or do you have a deadline? Like, there's all kinds of crazy questions.

[D]

Yeah. And I. I knew none of this either. Like I said, I started out writing for my granddaughter, and then the audience there. The motivation was imagining her at 15 years old when she has some questions, and I want her to not only hear my story, but these big life lessons. And then it became, wow, these big life lessons are actually for everyone. I mean, civilian leaders, marriages, if you work with human beings, these lessons are for everybody. Then it turned into this. It was amazingly therapeutic for me to write some of this stuff down. I'm just sitting at my computer, Scotch and, you know, tears running down my cheeks, just typing away. So then it became, man, this could. This could help some vets out there. So it kept evolving into, you know, it's for your grandkids. This is for everybody. This is for veterans. And the publisher is pretty easy to work with. Empire is who owns it. And they were. They've been great, you know, communication wise and deadlines and the cost of just getting a book up off the ground. But it was never. It's never been about money. Like, the whole goal was to just have something for my granddaughters and future generations. So If I make $1 off of this, that's $1 more dollar than I planned on making. But if some lieutenant gets a hold of this and they're able to exhale a little and understand their job a little or be a better leader, that's. Man, that means everything to me.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, that's. That's. That's actually very noble. I would.

[D]

I'm Not, I'm not a good guy. I just accidentally wrote a book that might help people.

[A]

I think it's cool that you're, you're, you're writing from the conventional side of it. Everything's got to be Hollywooded up. Everything's got to be like, for even anybody to be interested in a story, it's got to be like, like Restrepo or something like that. It's got to be like this huge fascinating story where unfortunately many men perish. And at the end of day, a 20 year career, multiple deployments, leading men. It's, it's just, it's. I couldn't only imagine the amount of you learned in 20 years leading people. Because I mean, I was only, I was a buck sergeant for about 20 minutes before I got out. Obviously you start picking up leadership skills before that, but you know. Yeah, I just, you know, my friends that were, I was in with, you know, we're E4s and E5s together, I, I find out like gonna be a sergeant major dude. Like I remember when he was like in mailboxes and hitting with baseball bats, you know? Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

I have a buddy who's a sergeant major now who I've known since high school. And it's amazing to see people like look up at this revered command sergeant major and I'm like, I remember when he his pants as a prank. Like he said, watch this, it'll be funny. He just pants in class. That's command sergeant major now.

[B]

My God.

[D]

Yeah. Turns out we all grow up. It's amazing. Oh, sorry, I gotta let my dog out.

[B]

You're good. We like dogs.

[A]

You got the guide on in the back. You've got a hell of a setup in there.

[D]

Oh yeah. For my, for my company command, 623rd Engineer Company.

[A]

Yeah, I have a, a black wall professional tier. So your book, I'm assuming it's available, Amazon is probably the best way to get it.

[D]

Yep, Amazon, it's pre sale for the digital copy right now. Amazon paperback hits Sunday the 31st. And I've got a couple of book signing events. I'll be in Bartley, Nebraska signing books on the 6th of June. And I'll be in Davie, Nebraska at the Davey Tavern on June 13th signing books. Yep. Really looking forward to it. It's been, it's been a lot of fun.

[A]

Yeah, I mean so like we always do, we try and keep in touch with everybody that we had on the show. It's. We want you to come back especially if, if there's anything going on that, you're like, man, I know this anti hero guys would, would benefit from my insight on this, you know, leadership issues. Fortunately, right now there we don't have any wars going on that, that, you know, so we don't really cover too much stuff. But yeah, man, very impressed with the fact that you wrote this book as a conventional guy. I know that took, that takes so much fortitude to keep pushing through all the Navy Seals and special Forces dudes on podcasts, you know, I, I couldn't commend you more. I'm being serious.

[D]

Oh, I love those guys. I mean, we need them, God bless them, but that's just not the experience of 99 of us and the IEDs.

[A]

And I didn't even tell him to say that. I didn't even tell him to say that

[D]

the IEDs and mortars actually didn't care what schools you've been to. They were, they were gonna kill you regardless. They didn't.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, most of the conventional guys, when you signed up during war, you knew, you know, especially combat arms and infantry, you know, I, I heard Special Forces dudes say, I didn't sign up for that because I didn't want to be a bullet sponge. I didn't want to get blown up. That's not what I wanted to do. And you got dumb asses like me and Mike signing up like, yeah, it sounds cool, we'll do it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, no.

[D]

The op tempo, the traditional, even guard line infantry, light infantry, what they did for that 20 years, just exhausting. And it was 12 month deployments. Now there's one of this six month, 90 day rotation stuff.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[D]

You're showing up for a year and you're operating more.

[A]

Yeah, more.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

The Nebraska, we had a CAV squadron that was after 12 months. Bush did the troop surge. They did another 12 months, 24 months. The Nebraska Cav squadron. It was incredible. Yeah.

[A]

Again, you know what we call, I don't know if I told you this or you might know what we call our, our, you know, our supporters and our, our community that we're building. We just, they self named it the 99 because we, we, you know, we had this show had done its time covering Special forces stuff, but we were getting a lot of feedback saying that there was a huge portion of the viewers that weren't SF fanboys. They were, they were dudes looking for like, stuff they could relate to. And they're like, dude, I love your show, but most the. I can't relate to it. Like, great stories and all, but it's kind of like watching a movie and you're like, I don't like this movie. It's a great movie. Like, don't get. The production value is great, but I just don't want to watch it. So when we veered away from all that gayness, you know, we really just started finding people that were like, hello. You know, they were. They were just there the whole time. And so we kind of built this community of people like me and Mike, and we call it the 99. And they're. They're rough and rowdy bunch, man, but I know they'll embrace you.

[D]

I'm. I'm proud to be from the 99. I was, uh, did some fun stuff my whole career, and, uh, not a school I went to produced a badge or a tab, but, yeah, I still got the skills, though, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, well, guys, check out his book. Authority without control. I'm gonna throw it right back up here. This is what it looks like. You want to support Brandon and maybe pass on some knowledge to other people. It's available on Amazon. And hey, can you get it where people. The. The digital copier. Is that the audiobook, too?

[D]

No, it'll be like the Kindle. Like the Kindle version.

[A]

You know that one's on pre sale right now.

[D]

Yep, that's on pre sale right now. And they'll both Launch on the 31st. May 31st.

[A]

And are you gonna have an audio option?

[D]

Maybe. So like I said, it's. I don't know if this is gonna make any money. And doing an audiobook is expensive and time consuming. You know, renting a studio, you've got to do, like, voice coaching.

[A]

I would just. I have one request, okay? Please, if you do an audiobook, please get a black eye to do it. It will throw everyone off. They're gonna be like, his name is what? But he sounds like this.

[D]

Get a black woman Southern. Some big old sweet old black lady.

[B]

I'm gonna stay quiet. I'm gonna stay quiet.

[D]

It was 9 11.

[A]

All right, man. I really appreciate you coming on. Anytime you want to come back, man, just hit us up. We'd love to have you on again.

[B]

Appreciate it, man. Thanks so much.

[D]

Appreciate it. God bless.

[A]

All right, man, Take it easy. Oh, you're becoming a prude now, Mike.

[B]

I'm trying to be. I'm trying to affect change here.

[A]

Politician Mike over here. No fun anymore. This is what he's going to be like as a sheriff.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it's gonna be like, he's gonna walk in.

[A]

Everybody's gonna. We can't say anything.

[B]

I already told you that Moon Cricket is gonna be my press secretary.

[A]

He'd probably be a good one because he's full of. 80% of the time they talk.

[B]

Yeah, we're good. We're there, man. We're there.

[A]

There he is. You. Jake, you look like your nose. You look like you're wearing the disguises with the sunglass and the nose and the mustache.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because your nose just is abnormally big today.

[C]

Dude.

[B]

Welcome to the show.

[C]

I feel like it's the same size as normal, but it's funny you say that. I. I put one of those on the other day and I didn't look any different. I thought it. I thought it would be funny for like a gag and I saw it at the Walmart and it did not change.

[B]

There was a couple comments here I wanted to highlight. Go ahead. I'm looking good. You talk while I'm looking.

[C]

Does the. Does the audio sound okay with my little.

[B]

You sound much better today.

[A]

Yeah. All right.

[C]

I think I was having some other issues yesterday.

[B]

There was something.

[A]

Yeah, like you were trying.

[B]

I mean, this guy. Not even air assault. Huh? The previous me.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

No previous guest.

[A]

Oh. Not even aerosol. That's what they're saying.

[B]

Yeah. Then somebody said Todd was going to write a book about sharks, I think. Great haircuts, great white Tyler Hoover coming soon.

[A]

Great one.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think Josh said that it was going to be like a. Like a pop up shark book.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Oh, the pictures. Yeah.

[B]

Why does this shark have a. Never mind. I can't say things anymore.

[A]

Dude, you suck Now, Mike, I don't like this at all. Drop out.

[B]

Why does this shark have Jordans on? This is crazy.

[A]

It's the Black Tip shark.

[D]

Yeah, dude.

[C]

Yeah. The Black Tip shark's got a gun. But it's like this.

[A]

It's a tip.

[B]

Yeah, The Black Switch shark.

[A]

The Black Switch shark.

[B]

No shot shots today.

[C]

No. No hot shots, no back shots, nothing like that.

[A]

No back shots, no shots in the Midland.

[C]

No one that. You guys need to get Tristan on here to talk about his back shot business. Business I don't want. I'm not gonna ruin it. I'll let him tell it, but he's thinking about coming on to just advertise it, so. But yeah, yeah, it's a. I can't remember what he called, but it's. It's a back shot business and I'll let him.

[D]

I'll.

[C]

I'll let him explain what that is.

[A]

I might want to let him do it.

[C]

That's his business.

[A]

Sorry, we're keeping you awake, Mike.

[B]

My bad.

[C]

So I had. When I texted.

[B]

It's not. It's not you gobbling that monster down where I can hear your throat.

[A]

Whoa, dude, that sounded hella gay.

[B]

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to all of us when you're drinking it. Goblin.

[A]

A monster.

[C]

I. I bet you somebody. I bet you somebody in the chat would. Super chat a hundred bucks if you guys could get your mouth all the way around the monster can.

[B]

Tyler. Ken, there's actually. I've seen memes of you laughing with you.

[D]

There used to be a meme out

[A]

there, but there is.

[C]

I'm not gonna do it, but I feel like there's somebody out there.

[B]

We're not. This isn't the G Money show. We're not gonna gobble down monsters for. Yeah, I'll do it right now. I'll gobble a skin monster. Give me a skin monster. I'll take it right now for 100 bucks.

[A]

Valkyrie, whip it out.

[C]

That should be the next thing that when we all go on the G Money show is like. Like try to get him to do

[D]

stuff for super Chats.

[B]

The first thing we got to do is get him to show up. We don't even know if he's going to show up to his own show. So once we figure out if he's going to be there or not, then we got.

[C]

He's coming tonight, though, right?

[B]

We have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine.

[C]

That's upsetting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, when I texted you guys, I just broke away and it was in the early part of the show, and I know it's last minute, so I appreciate y' all letting me hop on, but, man, like, talking about, like, the. And I only caught the. The tail end of it. I didn't want to back it up, miss too much of the live. But the guy that didn't want to meet with the president or whatever. Dude, I would not shake hands with, speak to, or voluntarily be in the same room as a Democrat president.

[A]

Really?

[C]

I mean, not. Yeah, I really wouldn't. Because, like, the dude, the office. This is just my opinion. I don't know if you guys want to circle all the way back around to that right now or not.

[B]

No, you go ahead. It's your show.

[A]

The.

[C]

The office has been so corrupted, and these people, they're. Dude, like, they. They've already. It doesn't matter what we think of them. It's like, you know, we have these, like, these ideas and these principles that like, we all think this, you know, like we're all part of the same group and this is, you know, the peaceful transfer of power, voting, stuff like that. There's so much crazy happening. I was talking to Efren earlier today and he, it was, I think from one or two times ago when I came on, when he was at, when he was asking about epic city. And dude, that's, that's actually wild. He sent me a video on it. You should watch it. It's like the largest mosque in the country being built in Texas.

[A]

Yeah, I remember when he asked you about it.

[C]

Yeah. And so I, I watched that video. The reality is there's not a constitutional remedy to that problem because the constitution allows them to do that. And the reason that it doesn't work is because the constitution was written at a certain time when we had a very particular demographic. Like they, the. The found the founders. No, dude, I mean, the founders, dude. So take, take the Muslim epic city thing out of it. What do you think George Washington would have done if he had seen a Somali? Like, you wouldn't even be able to explain to him what a Somali is, let alone we're gonna elect Somalis to the U. S. Congress.

[B]

I, I agree there's probably a song Tyler could sing that has something to do with what he would have thought or saw. But I agree all the way across the board that when as a thought experiment, just, not only just that, but just the second amendment, like, they never assumed there was going to be like teenage kids in Chicago with automatic handguns. Like, that wasn't on a right, dude.

[C]

Yeah, they weren't.

[B]

Wasn't on their plate.

[C]

Yeah, they weren't. Like, this is going to be for like a bunch of like 14, 15 year old black kids with glocks with machine gun switches on it. That's not what that was for.

[B]

No, no, that was for like.

[A]

But so also they were like, what's a black kid?

[C]

Yeah, they had, well, they had, they knew what they were. They had different word for it, but I'm not gonna say that. But I, But I do think that

[A]

it's like, it's like 20, 27, Mike, this is your year.

[C]

I didn't say it. And, and plus, dude, I'm, I've been in close communication with moon Cricket since you, since you said that he was going to be a press secretary and we're working on stuff for you, so we wouldn't burn you or anything like that, but I I do. I don't think that, like, I'll tell you what I liked about Trump when he got elected, and I think he's a totally different guy now. Probably compromised by the Miriam Adelen money, and that's why we're fighting wars for Israel. But what I liked about him is beforehand, like, the unit party was the order of the day. They were all friends, they all hung out, it was all show. And they actually hated Trump. They actually did not get along. We do. We used to have brawls in the US Congress. They'd have people, like, beat the shit out of each other because they couldn't agree on a vote. And I think that government works better when people are serious about their business. Again, that's not the same guy that we have right now. I'm not. I'm not defending Trump. I think that dude is probably lost.

[A]

Say that. People always got to say, I'm not defending Trump. Like, he's still the president. He's probably the best president we've had in probably decades.

[B]

Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this. Going back to what you said about the pictures. Let's say hypothetically, you're on, like, a SWAT detail, and your job is the guard there's important. And it ends up being Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, and you have an out. You're standing there, you're guarding them. They come over there. It's hypothetical. And they're shooting the. And they're like, let's get a picture. Would you. In that scenario, you're not going to the Oval Office, you're not going to meet them, but you end up, like, in proximity of a former president of the United States. You would not. Would you want to take a picture with that person? And I'm using Obama. I'm using Obama as an example. Just anybody on the left, like, like,

[A]

all Jake's got to do is what would George Washington. Washington do?

[B]

He would take the picture.

[C]

Well, no, no. Personally, no, I would decline. I wouldn't be disrespectful because it's. It's not necessarily called for in that instance. But no, I don't think that I want that picture.

[B]

What about.

[D]

What am I.

[C]

What am I gonna do with it? What about who?

[B]

Ben Carson.

[C]

Ben Cart. Yeah, dude, Ben Carson's a good guy.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

It's not a. It's not a purely racial thing. You could have said Joe Biden.

[B]

No, no, I get it. I just, I'm looking back in politics here, and one of the. During the last election, they hit. They Hit one of the politicians because he was on a presidential detail and Obama, Obama's with the president and he took a picture with Michelle Obama and it was all over a big huge deal when I know the current sheriff was actually supported Obama because he was a Democrat at the time, now he's a Republican. So I thought it was interesting that like just a picture alone is like, you know, you end up in a spot if you're with somebody that important. It's like we talked about earlier about respecting the office of the presidency in the. And the President of the United States is like, oh, let's get a picture with this cops in here. Like if you turn that down based on, you know, like we're, we're the Giants quarterbacks getting on for introducing Trump. But if it was Obama or Biden, they would be like, oh, it's okay. So I don't want to be too faced or I want to be double sided. Where I ended up protecting Ben Carson. I took a, you know, and I did get a picture with him and a friend of mine ended up protecting Nancy Pelosi and he got a picture with her. And I'm like, you're a, like, what the. Would you take a picture with Nancy Pelosi? But at the time it was like, you know, she's still somebody, right? So I, I wondered what you think.

[C]

I will say this. If, if you gave me the opportunity to introduce Barack Obama on live tv.

[B]

Yeah, that would be.

[C]

And I knew that, and I knew there was no delays, I would do it.

[B]

I bet you.

[C]

Same thing for Biden. Same thing for a lot of them. Same thing for Nancy. I would probably take a picture with Nancy because of her jugs.

[A]

But I don't think those pictures are real, Jake. I don't, I don't think those pictures are real. I think those are.

[C]

AI, no, dude, you, you can see her in the Capitol building. Like they're, they're real. They, some of them are enhanced.

[A]

But those.

[C]

Then things are hanging.

[A]

Yeah, they're probably hanging pretty low.

[B]

Real quick with Justin, did is G Money on tonight? He said that he reached out. Is he okay?

[A]

He said, oh, I lost the comment. Said he, he said yes, he'll be there. He called the producer at 10:00am a.k.a. justin. So.

[B]

Man, that's right. He does have a producer.

[A]

You guys gotta let me know when I have the banner on for too long.

[B]

Dude, what banner?

[A]

Yeah, the banner on the bottom, dude,

[B]

says Jake the Roughneck. Oh, that thing. I can't stand that thing.

[C]

But you know, really, my My main thing, that the office has no integrity anymore. I'm not sure what the Constitution does anymore. I, I, the, the magic. It's like a magic paper, and there's no magic to it. I don't think that it really does much. And I think that you've had, for the last 150 years, you've had, like, it hadn't always been the Democrats, but basically you've had. Well, to simplify it, you've had the Democrats acting as the gas pedal, and you've had the Republicans acting as the break. We're moving in the same direction. So it, it's not. That's the unit party at work.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And so I think that, personally, I think that it's suicidal to empathize, sympathize, or otherwise humanize people that want to destroy you. It doesn't matter if you think that they're your enemy, because they've already declared you their enemy.

[B]

Good.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's like if, if somebody says they're going to destroy you and you're like, nah, man, we're on the same team. Yeah, well, no, dude, they already told you that they're not. And that guy. Do you guys know who Sam Hyde is?

[A]

Sounds familiar. He's.

[C]

He's really crazy. He's really out there, but he's hilarious, and he's pretty plugged into stuff like this. And, and he's just like, you know, just like he says, I want you to remember that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny. And that kind of sums up the left. That's why it's so, to me, it's so crazy that we're not focused on destroying the left as an institution and ensuring that they're never, never able to get power again.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We have a super chat we missed, and I think we talked about this yesterday, but Tristan wants to know, is rollerblading masculine?

[C]

Tristan knows the answer to that. Just give him his money back. That's a stupid question.

[A]

I wouldn't even. Yeah, I'm not. I wouldn't even take that. Read that. $2.

[B]

You gotta read that, man.

[A]

This is gay as hell.

[B]

Rollerblading is, Is highly. Yeah, I have to use different words now. Non masculine.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, give the kid his money back. That dude, that was probably a big chunk of his allowance.

[A]

Where did the Tristan rollerblading thing come from? Did he say he rollerbladed?

[C]

No, I made it up one time and it just stuck.

[A]

You're just a bully in the chats. I think.

[C]

Well, I wouldn't say bully. That's got a negative connotation. I was trying to help him run because he wasn't running.

[B]

We gotta run. You gonna run today, Tyler?

[A]

I. Dude, I can't. My. I. I did legs on Sunday and I ran yesterday, dude, my legs hurt.

[B]

Like, today's chest day. As soon as this show's over beefing

[A]

up, are you gonna put out passive aggressive divorce dad Facebook posts again today?

[B]

You know, and I was thinking about that, because I could roast you posted. So when you posted, but I can't. You'll get in trouble. Some of the pictures. Some of the. Some of the pictures you've posted.

[C]

Tyler's daring you to do it right now.

[B]

Some of the pictures you posted of things that I can't say because you will be toast. So I let. I'll let you have that one. I'll let you have.

[A]

I don't know what you're talking about, Mike, but Mike. Mike's that guy that he cannot have. He cannot be the butt of the joke for more. No, but he goes full right for the jugular.

[B]

No barbecue.

[A]

That they're like, hey, Mike, nice cabs. And he goes, oh, you want to

[D]

tell your wife you cheated on her?

[A]

And everyone's like, damn, Mike,

[B]

I think

[D]

I make fun of myself.

[C]

And I heard you got a little dick, too.

[B]

I make fun of myself more than anybody. And I. I embrace the leg jokes. I embrace everything.

[D]

But there's some jokes.

[C]

Mike played his tick tocks for everyone to see when he could have just let that thing die.

[A]

I started thinking he was enjoying it in some weird way.

[B]

No.

[A]

You guys want to see another one? All right, I'll do it again.

[B]

It makes my stomach turn just thinking about it right now. But.

[C]

Hey, how did you do it on the steering wheel?

[B]

Yeah, it was good. It was good.

[D]

What is your.

[B]

Before we go.

[D]

What is.

[B]

What's your. What's your Go to Texas gumbo recipe?

[A]

I don't. What's that?

[C]

Do we.

[B]

Hold on, hold on. Do you realize that he doesn't understand. He doesn't know what Texas gumbo is? This is the level of. It's like soup stew gumbo.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Oh, I was looking at Gumby like, the green guy.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Remember Gumby that weird with a donkey?

[C]

No, but that. That brings up a really good point. I've been meaning to. I mean, you guys know. You guys know I like to plug local businesses, so That's a good point. This, and this is actually kind of just more like an online community than it is like an actual physical place. But if you get a chance, man, if you're not a part of Jaws Deli, find somebody that is and stop by. It's a. It's a cool place.

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's like. It's. It's for dudes that enjoy meat. We talk about me, we share meat recipes and things like that. So Jaws Deli is a great place. It. It's. It's a community more than it is like an actual deli.

[B]

So it's like a hypothetical deli, a

[A]

community of gay dudes.

[B]

Kind of like Cheers was a bar, but it's like, not really.

[C]

It's very real.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It's not a physical place, but, I mean, one day.

[A]

Yeah, one day.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

J. Deli.

[C]

Yeah. Tyler, you. You actually used to be invited to it and you left.

[B]

I think I left too.

[A]

I left after Mike. I actually texted Mike and I was like, man, I feel bad. Mike's like, dude, I had to leave too. And. But it was for. Mine was for just straight, like, Instagram was crashing. My Instagram would crash because of how overloaded that chat was. And then we were like. We were trying to get the chat to move over.

[B]

It's called It. Crap. It's called. He didn't have any intentions of interacting or opening it because he's a Jew and doesn't get any money. There's no money involved. So it crashed. His. Crashed his Instagram, dude.

[C]

I don't know. I'll actually give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, if. If Tyler's at home around the wife and kids, like, that's not a good thing to be opening.

[A]

I opened it once and saw somebody spreading their ball sack, and I was like, wow, this is. This is what's crashing my phone? Is somebody pulling their ball sack skin?

[B]

It's called bat wings.

[A]

Bat wings, yeah.

[C]

Did it have, like, a face drawn on it with a Sharpie?

[A]

I don't think it had gotten to that point yet. I think I was at the initial, like, hey, look at my ball sack. And then before it was passed around and re edited. And, you know, that's actually. Jay is making that real talk. This is a real thing. Me and Mike wanted to put the app where you can post on a timeline, like a private Facebook group, kind of like, same. Same mentality. And he was like, well, there's two things I worry about. And I go, all right, let me hear it. Because he asked me if I wanted to moderate and get approval. Not my Dude, I can't approve every post. Dude, I'm sorry. I was like, just let it ride. And he goes, okay, well, first off, I really worry about drunken rants. Like, people posting like, eight, seven hundred times in, like, one hour period, and, like, when they're intoxicated. And I was like, okay. And he goes, the other one I worry about is actual people posting their genitalia. And I was like, that is so sad that that's got to be a problem.

[C]

I think those are. I think those are legitimate, but you might not be giving the guys enough credit. They might be mature enough.

[A]

You think so?

[C]

No, but I said they might be.

[A]

But, yeah, you got some good ideas for this app. I'm pretty excited about too. So everybody's working real hard at it.

[C]

Hey, when. When are y' all about to leave? How much time do we got?

[A]

10 minutes.

[C]

We started this maybe like a couple different episodes ago where. Where the IDF was messing with me. But I do want to plug it real quick. It's a project I'm involved in. Might take like, two or three minutes, if you got it.

[A]

Yeah, we got it. So I'll.

[C]

I'll burn through the first part, because we already heard it. It's about putting that firewall up around the Internet, basically segregating, if you will. I know that has a negative connotation, but we want to segregate the Internet between, you know, like, say, I don't know, like, like America and then, like, the rest of the third World. Because I don't really like your float. Your feed is just, like, flooded with these people from, like, Africa and India and these civilizations where, I mean, frankly, like, some of them didn't even invent the wheel. A lot of them poop in the street. And I'm not just. Just me personally, and it's actually a lot of us. It's a growing movement where we don't really want to hear what they have to say about, I don't know, like, how. How the United States should conduct itself. So we just want to put that firewall up around the Internet maybe where you can go through and, like, visit, but you can't comment. So, like, say, I'm interested in, like, I don't know how to make pointy sticks. I could hop over to Nigeria and see, but, like, you know, they don't got it. They don't got to see. You know, they don't have to listen to what I want to say about pointy sticks because they're the pointy stick experts, but we're Working with a congressman here locally. I don't want to name them just yet because it's not. It's not public knowledge yet. You guys heard it here first. But we're going to introduce an act of Congress to get this done, and it's called the Separate but Equal bill.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

So if you're. If you're interested in supporting it, you just go to separate but equal.com.

[A]

separate but equal.com.

[D]

yeah,

[B]

I'm not going there. I'm not going. It.

[C]

It's gonna be. Dude, it's not. It's not to punish anybody. It's going to be separate, but everything will be equal. Separate but equal. It's. It's really good verbiage, and I think the moon cricket actually helped me come up with that Mike. So.

[A]

Did I spell it wrong?

[C]

If you're, if you're thinking about using him as, like, your public information guy, he. He. He came up with that Turner phrase.

[A]

It's, it's. It does. It has a negative connotation to it. I get it. But I also see, you know, the, the benefits. I think so. I think if it was like the same thing as like. If you said, like, you know, like the word coloreds and whites and stuff like that, I think as a bad. But if you're just like, hey, I'm talking about the washing machine. I'm talking about my clothes. And people go, crayons. Yeah, right. I thought if you're talking about, like, whites only. And then you're. You're like, what? You're like, no, I'm talking about. I only do whites, and with the bleach at the beginning of the day. And then I do the colors. Close. Color.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Colored clothes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[C]

So.

[A]

But negative connotation, you mean nothing by it. It just has a really negative connotation to it.

[C]

I'm not aware of any connotation that it has, but separate but equal.com is the website. You can go sign the petition. We've got. I mean, dude, we probably got 6 million signatures right now to make that.

[A]

6 million, huh? Is that how many people?

[C]

Depending on who you ask. Yeah. I mean,

[A]

have you ever thought about dressing up as Dale Earnhardt?

[C]

I have, but now it seems funnier to dress up like Kyle Bush. I'm not sure.

[B]

Oh, my God. Dude.

[C]

Dude. And I don't know why nobody's talking about this. Kyle Busch was set to testify before Congress next week. Yeah. Regarding Hillary Clinton's involvement in the Epstein files. And he falls ill. How.

[A]

How is Kyle Busch involved in That

[C]

I couldn't tell you. He knew something that he probably shouldn't have known.

[A]

I did see that. I don't know if it's true, and I don't know what it was, but he was set to testify. Just like somebody compared it to Kobe Bryant. Can you shed some light on that? You know, Kobe Bryant died tragically, like, a week before he. Something was supposed to happen. Does anybody know? Or am I just being all conspiracy theory like

[C]

Kobe? No, I think that Kobe was. I think that I. I actually don't think that Kobe Bryant.

[A]

That. That.

[C]

That was a conspiracy. I think that basically, I think that he was under a lot of pressure through the DEI kind of cabal that we lived under for so long to hire a female pilot, and that's basically what happened. I wouldn't swear to it because, I don't know. A lot of the details are murky, but, yeah, I think that's probably what happened there.

[A]

All right. Yeah. So there is. It's most likely not true that he was supposed to testify in a legal

[C]

case

[A]

and that his plane crashed, but I think you're right. It's probably just a female pilot.

[C]

I'm just saying, dude, I look in the cockpit every time before I get on a plane.

[A]

Dude, you remember when the army helicopter collided into an airliner?

[B]

Yeah,

[C]

that went away. That went away real quick.

[A]

Whoops.

[B]

Did go away.

[A]

All right, I think we're. We lost. We lost Mike. I think his ADD is overtaken his entire brain, and I'm responding to fans real time eating things that we're saying. You're like, yeah, right.

[B]

What do you want me to say?

[C]

I know, right? Damn.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

That's crazy, bro. That's crazy.

[B]

Like, you guys are talking about some dumb conspiracy that's not even real talking. Let me get in. Let me get in. Oh, I think. Yeah. I think Kobe Bryant was in the Epstein files.

[A]

Let's.

[B]

That's why he died.

[C]

I wouldn't say he was in the Epstein files, but I think it's entirely. Maybe he went to a diddy party.

[B]

Yeah, I would. I would agree with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I haven't heard anything from Cody about wanting to oil up in Texas. Tickle fight. So. Still here, bro.

[A]

Still here, bro.

[B]

Would you. Would you Texas tickle fight the commie, dude.

[C]

I would beat the brakes off that.

[A]

Would you ever debate him?

[C]

Actually, I would.

[A]

And.

[C]

And you may not believe this, because sometimes I say that might sound a little crazy, but I would destroy Ryan in a debate because to debate a communist, you have to understand what they're all about. And I around and wasted a ton of money in college getting a Russian history degree. And believe it or not, there's a lot of overlap between Russian history and communism. And I. Yeah, like, Ryan's tricks don't work on the initiated.

[B]

Like, you think he rollerblades?

[C]

Yes, dude, Ryan rollerblades. He long boards, dude. I think he probably skips to work. If I was guessing. I don't even think he knows how to walk.

[B]

What about from his Ford or Chevy? What do you think he drives? Let's take a poll. What do you think he drives?

[A]

He don't drive a car. I guarantee you he doesn't. No. Yeah.

[C]

City like that, I don't think he needs to drive. I think he Ubers or he skips.

[A]

Yeah, he's. All right, guys, that's it for today. 11 o' clock in studio tomorrow.

[B]

No, 1 o'. Clock.

[A]

One 1 o' clock in studio tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah. There you go.

[A]

All right, Producer Jake, thanks for joining us.

[C]

It's always fun.

[A]

Hey, Mike, once you take a nap and then drink some caffeine, do you want to do a Patreon later?

[B]

I'm gonna go to the gym. I'm not gonna be a fat slob like you, so I'm actually gonna go to the gym after this and lift weights.

[A]

Whatever you got to do to wake up. That's all I ask.

[B]

Would love to.

[A]

All right, we'll see you guys in on Patreon. Jv team for life.