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Welcome to the Night Shift.
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Yo, yo, yo.
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We are back with another the Night Shift. Thursday nights for the boys. And for those zombies walking around on Night Shift, we've got the crew with us. We've got Tyler back, owner of High Ordinance Apparel. Got Mike, me, Jimmy, and our resident criminal, Jay, who goes by 8 up J. Ate up J, the letter. 8 up J.
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The criminal.
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The criminal.
B
It's a pleasure to finally meet you, Jason.
D
I met you a long time ago.
B
It's been a long time coming, man.
D
Listen, this is just. This is like the reunion. That's all.
C
Yeah, give us some backstory, because obviously it's coming out on Cottville's Cockfield next.
B
Went this Wednesday, so a week. A week from now.
D
Mike's the. He's the cop that just spent a lot of money.
B
Good. You tell him.
D
Tell them.
B
Tell them your version.
D
This guy right here cost me a lot of money, a lot of endless nights of sleep, I can promise you that. But I did buy him some hookers. He doesn't really understand that. But I was paying hot chicks to. To get information, and I guess he was banging him on the couch.
B
No, no, no, no, no. I was too drunk back then to do anything, but I was. It was. It was a long time.
D
You don't remember? Doesn't it?
B
Yeah, I don't remember that. That part of my life is very blurry. Dude. Alcohol. But the joke is. And it's not a joke. Jason was a massive criminal drug smuggler. The guy. And a lot of people in town wanted Jason, and Jason thought I was after him as a local drug cop. In reality, truth is, I just like busting crack dealers. I was in the wrong. I was in the other side of town doing my thing. But he. He assumed I was after him constantly.
D
And, well, my intel was telling me that.
B
Your intel was telling you. Yeah, so. But I really. I didn't know he was. Till tonight. I'm. I didn't. I had no idea.
D
Well, the thing about it is, is everybody that was in the drug game, you were the main guy that was knocking them off. So that was the main part that came while I was watching.
B
No, I get. I get it. And. And I did. I put. I put people in jail, and that's what I was good at. But with that, as you well know, comes rumors, lies, and we've already debunked, like, 30 stories in the last. We've been together about five hours today. Things that just didn't happen or didn't happen the way that the fish Grew. And because I always blame those agents for putting me in a position to investigate people in my own town, at that caliber of investigation just leads to bad things.
D
Listen, dude, just because you're in the movie Training Day doesn't mean you have to act.
C
Hey, did you knock over my shelf in there?
B
In the.
D
It fell. No, listen, remember what we talked about?
B
Ask the criminal.
D
Listen, listen. We were talking about corruption, and I said, person that we mentioned, the name in the shell fell.
B
I swear to God, we said a person's name out loud alone in there, and the shell fell as we said it.
D
And he said. Damn. That's him.
B
Yeah.
C
Is he dead?
B
No, he's.
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He's around.
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He just got superpowers.
D
He's outside, probably in the park.
C
But, yeah, we got.
D
We got.
C
Obviously, we got a bunch of good videos.
D
We got.
C
You know, people are gonna come in. We got Mike's phone going off, so that's fantasy football.
B
There's a football game on.
C
Oh, who's playing tonight?
B
I have no idea.
D
Let's look.
B
At. Yeah, this is. This is funny. Look at him. He's smiling. He can't. You can't get enough of it. Oh, I can't.
D
Listen, I'm just sitting here thinking about all the crazy stuff. Like, I'm like, dude, y' all are probably on some boring stuff. I can really get this thing.
C
What's your podcast called?
D
10 Toes.
C
10 Toes.
D
10 Toes. Like, 10 Toes Down.
C
And it's on. What's that mean?
D
10 Toes. Like you're standing on your business. Like you're standing up. You got 10 toes. So you're standing on business. What it's called in the streets.
C
Standing on business. I like it.
D
Business.
C
You. You're on YouTube, right?
D
Yeah, I'm on YouTube. We started the podcast just for out of fun, to expose, like, all the fake gangsters and all this, like, how everybody wants to follow, like, rappers and all these drug movies and live up to them and. But nobody wants to tell the back side of the story, like, what Mike was saying. If I came after, you'd be serving life. You wouldn't be sitting here. And that's the stories that people need to know about. We only hear the good part of stuff. We don't get to hear the backside of it. Every movie you watch, drug smuggler movie, you hear about the money, the excitement, the girls, everything, right? And then you hear like, oh, he only did, like, 10 years. Well, they don't want to tell you why he got 10 years. Well, because he put three people in life?
B
Yeah.
D
You know, he gave him life. So it's like, that's the only reason why. But they don't want to tell you.
B
That that's dope 101. I mean, like I said earlier, you just don't knock on the drug dealer's door and have a case. You have to have somebody get you to that position. And that's through informants and, and taking people off. And eventually the right person rolls and they don't. They don't show that nasty backstabbing side of it that leads to that stuff.
D
What's so funny is because I told you why I was paying law enforcement mainly for find out who was being arrested, okay? So when the DEA came to me the day I got my clemency from the president, he had told me, he's like, dude, I want. He goes, I walked past the vehicle and there was two guys in there, and they looked at me and I was like, dude, this is them. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, I'm done with this. Why are they like. I. I know the look. So I go to get in my truck and I get out. They're like, voucher back. I'm like, what's up? And he's like, come here. And I'm like, do I have to? And he's like, no, you're gonna want to. So I'm like, all right, whatever. So I walk up and he's like, dude, it's a pleasure to meet you. He goes, you'll go down in the top three. And this is the head guy of the Southern district. And he's like, you're gonna go down in the top three. The most funnest, coolest stories of all time of chasing you. Because he's like, everybody else hands it to me on a silver platter. They're just idiots. And he says, I think it has something to do with you not drinking and doing drugs. He's like, you made it a actual business and you made it exciting. And I was like, well, you never caught me.
C
Well, they ever has any serious questions. Has anybody ever approached you about a movie?
D
Yeah, I'm working with somebody really big. Kirkland Morse. He's the head screenwriter and I'm working with a $0.50 producer.
C
Oh, damn.
D
Yeah, I'm working on a five season TV series deal.
C
Can you get Mike in as a cameo? Like as a. But as a user.
D
He asked it. And I'm gonna really, if I get this deal, I'm gonna really try to have him as the cop.
C
I would like you would. You'd have to be like, mike, you gotta lose 50 pounds.
D
No, no, he's got to put on 50. He was fat back then. He was a porky.
B
Yeah, I was big. I was big, yo.
C
You weren't doing many foot chases back then.
B
No, I was.
D
Yeah, he was about 10ft.
B
The pen is mightier than the sword, man.
D
I mean, I heard stories he tripped followers feet, but I mean, he still was busted, people.
B
I was in bad shape back then. I was way out of shape. But I was.
C
I.
B
Investigation wise. I mean, it doesn't take much to type on a computer. I wore my vest though.
A
Yeah.
B
Even when I went out.
C
Your extra extra large vest?
B
Oh, it was bad. I got pictures that people don't even wreck it. I mean, he knows people didn't recognize the difference in what? I was just an alcoholic, man. I drank and drank and drank and that was it. That was all I did. And eat and drink and eat and drink. And.
C
Brady B, thanks for the. Thanks for the donation, brother. Happy Halloween to you. And I'm pretty sure he just got married. We got. Me and Brady got engaged on the same night.
D
Really?
C
Yeah.
D
So, gee, man, what's up? You want to talk to two other guys? You got some new guys on here. You want fresh meat or not?
C
That's our resident critic, I guess you'd say.
B
No, she likes me because I'm liberal.
C
People talking about your legs already.
D
That's all right.
B
Look at them things, man.
C
Damn solid.
D
What's. What's her deal? What's. What goes on with her? Is she mad at the world or something?
C
I think so, yeah.
D
She likes to come in here and mess with all of us. Men. Men.
B
Men. You were definitely a madman for a while there, right?
D
I was, dude, what did you call it? I call it making mud babies. So I used to tell my mom, it's like, how's prison? And I was like, oh, well, everything's great. But I mean, there's plenty of. In here. And she looks at me. I said, but it all smells like. So my mom's like, what is wrong with you?
B
What level were you? No, what? Open bunks, cells, cages, What? Both.
D
Okay, Yeah, I was in both.
B
Where'd you go?
C
All of it.
D
I started out in Louisiana at Oakdale.
B
That's got to be a disaster.
D
Oh, it was horrible. It was probably. It was very politic. Gang. It was a gang yard. All politics. The Texas family ran it. The five Mexican families.
C
Did you have to join a gang?
D
No, I. I didn't. I Don't even got a tattoo. I was hell on wheels. I ended up getting kicked out of there because I ran one of the white supremacist dudes off the yard.
C
Because my whole thing confused everybody probably like, what the going on?
D
Yeah. So it's called politics. So you answer to somebody in prison. Like, you have to, like, there's. No matter what you do, you're answering somebody, really. So, yeah. So I ran with the independent white boys and great names. So. So the thing is, it's like we're a gang, but we're not a gang. There's no affiliation, no tattoo, no party affiliation. Yeah. So it's just, it's a group and they call it like. Well, it's pretty much a gang because we have a shot caller, we answer to somebody. And one of the skin heads, the white supremacy gangs, was trying to run the run the unit, run everything after our main guy left. So I had my girl run his paperwork and did a little bit of research. He wasn't no good. So I kind of put his paperwork on his pillow when he went out. The wreck, when he came back in, he seen it and his boys read it, his gang did, and they didn't like it too much, so he checked in and they snitched on me. So I did six months in the shoe over it. Solitary refinement.
B
What's that like?
D
First two weeks is really rough. You want to bang your head off.
B
The wall and, you know you're living like 24 hours a day.
C
Yeah, yeah.
D
You're in there 24 hours a day.
B
A little room, 30 minutes out or anything?
D
Most time, no. Like, you don't get no time. You might be get like one or two days. You get 30 minutes or whatever, if you're lucky. And they do it like 5:30 in the morning. So for punishment. But I mean, at the end of the day, it's a couple weeks, you're fine. Once you learn how to get through that, it's nothing. I mean, nobody can break me me. It's, it's just life. I mean, prison's a whole nother life.
B
Like, and at that point, you're not, your appeals haven't started, you're just there.
D
No, I, I, My appeals have started. But, I mean, you're not hearing anything, not hearing nothing. It was a rude awakening. My first night in prison, I went to the bathroom because it was, it was a old state prison. Like setups, two tiers, and they used to have doors, but they took them off. So the bathrooms. The reason why they did it because the bathrooms are in the hallway at the end of the barracks. And I went in there and this black dude had this dude hugging the toilet, balls deep in him. And I'm sitting there like, why is this dude looking at me? So I could go to the bathroom. And I turn around and he's still staring at me. This big old black dude just kept looking at me. So I kind of like did a, a turn back and he had this dude like hugging the toilet, bent over it, and he's just sitting there balls beefing him. And I'm like, do I got. Is this like going to be an everyday thing? And I'm like.
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And somebody got the better of him.
B
I'm just trying to get rehabilitated. I'm trying to get rehabilitated.
C
Yeah.
D
Well, here's the thing about it with here, people are like, dude, do you get raped in prison? I'm like, no. The only time you get raped in prison, if you want to get raped, like, there's so much manass in there, dude. It's crazy. Like, they're just. It's crazy in there. I mean, mud. Making mud babies is something I made a turn for and some people think it's racist. And I'm like, no, no, it has nothing to do with blacks. It has to do with like mud babies.
A
Yeah, I, I, I think, I think we can all.
D
It's called budissy.
E
I needed the hand gesture though now.
B
Yeah, it all makes sense.
D
Let's see.
C
What's our first. Should we, how do.
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More uncomfortable conversation.
C
Should we kick it off with. Have you seen this, Jason? The, the cop that went to virtual court with no pants on.
B
Oh, dude, I gotta see it though. It's the. Hold on. It's the one that looks like right there. Yep. No, no middle. Right there.
D
Yeah, but half the cops should be like chomos, dude. They're like, they fit the standard of a sex offender. Like they do. They have this like, they're so dorky, they couldn't do nothing.
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I'm not the cop hater tonight.
D
Weird. Like, I got along with a lot of cops. Don't get me wrong.
B
Yeah, you paid them all. I get along with everybody. If I was paying them too.
D
Well, not all of them.
A
Hey, man, you should be thanking this guy.
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The Jackson Bass number 3919.
D
God, yes.
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Officer Jackson Bash number 3919 out of the 12 precinct. All right.
D
He got. You got, you got some pants on.
B
I mean, no pants. Dude, this made World star.
C
I said that was on purpose. You don't know that. You don't have pants on.
B
I don't think he cares. I don't think he cares.
C
He's about to retire.
D
Hey, can I explain something to you? I mean, I hate to put this guy's intelligence down, but, I mean, I don't know too many old school black dudes and how to work. Work a computer that good. I was gonna say looking at. He's not looking at the screen, realizing that his pants, you know, he's thinking.
C
Like, okay, he can see himself.
B
Maybe.
D
I don't.
B
Maybe they were sagging.
D
I don't really think.
B
He'S kicking the sag, man.
C
I mean, my pants are sagging.
D
Yeah.
B
I mean, but that is.
D
That's bad.
B
I mean, it doesn't seem bad, but it. It just sets the tone for Detroit. Detroit. Crime. No law. Lawlessness. Crazy. Just disaster. It just goes like, if that's who is policing up there. Like, that's just chin.
D
He had no shorts on.
B
No, I don't think he did.
E
The judge was shook. He called him cuz.
B
I think it was all the way out.
D
I should have came in this thing with no shorts.
C
Did he say cuz or cop? It shook him back to me, like. I mean, officer.
B
Yeah, he said cop.
D
So. So, Dilks, did you ever work to county jail in it? Yeah.
B
No, he tried, I tried. I quit.
C
That's why that was. Yeah, but did you ever do one day in there?
D
No. Why'd you quit? Think about all the. And not, I mean, all the packages you got. See, just think about it. I. I always ask the cards. Who wants to sign up to see dudes get neck all day, squat and cough and spread their butt?
C
It's running the gun, a real thing. Have you ever heard of that?
D
Taking it to the gun show.
C
All right, so someone told me running the gun meant, you know, someone's coming by, so you prep your.
D
No, no, no, no. That's called this thing to the gun show. Running a gun is usually tattoos taken to the gun show is where you gun one down in. A pro wears pants and they tie a string to it and they tie a string to their toe and they thump so they don't get in trouble with their hands. So their hands are up and they sit there and thump like this. And it jerks them off while they're drink. Yes, yes. Called thumper. They're a thumper.
B
Like, and they time into a guard's.
D
Going by, so they gun the guard down so they don't get. They don't get. They don't get in trouble for, you know, gunning the guard down. Right? So they have their hands accidental.
C
So is that what it's called? Gun in the guard down?
D
Yeah, yeah, it's called gun in the guard down taking to the gun show. So. So what's so funny is, is that I'm sitting there like, okay, that's normal. I've seen that. But when I heard that they would tie a string to their thing, and they make the string short, so when they pull down, when they take their foot like that, it pulls on it. So they tie it up high and it pulls when they put their foot down and gives them a hand job with a string so they don't. They don't get in trouble.
A
And this is why people get Lysol sprayed on them.
B
Oh, yeah? We talk about that yet?
C
What?
B
The Lysol spray.
C
What about it?
B
Oh, so the Pinellas county broke a story yesterday where they had a medical person that was in getting their food through the.
D
What?
B
Somebody's in jail.
C
Okay.
B
Then they're getting their food through the door because they're not. They're have mental issues, so they wouldn't put their hands back. So the guard goes to his bag, which he's not supposed to have any contraband, just like everybody else, and he gets Lysol.
C
Okay.
B
He sprays a dude in the face with the Lysol. Doesn't do anything. Then he starts beating the dude with the. With the.
C
Like his hands.
B
Beating them?
D
Yeah.
C
Tell him to get your hands inside.
B
He does that. That pisses the guy off. He gets up. So then he says, open the door.
C
Okay.
B
He opens a can of whoop ass on him. When he resists, when he opens the door and beats the out of him.
C
Does he open a can of Lysol?
B
I guess.
C
Does he hit him with a bottle?
B
He does all kinds of stuff. Then he tells. Writes his report.
D
Who does this?
B
The corrections deputy.
D
Pizza inmate.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
I'm sorry. I thought that was called jailing.
B
Oh, here we go.
C
I thought that was called being a jailer.
B
Yeah, yeah. You can just beat the snot off of people.
D
See, feds, they don't do that.
B
This guy got fired.
C
And this was County.
B
County, Sarasota County, Pinellas county. On top of it, it's 20, 25. He didn't account for the cameras that are everywhere that watched him do it. He said, I threw water on him and then I didn't hit him with anything. And as I was watching the press conference, I thought they're going to stay giving the Lysol with the lighter. Is there any.
C
Is there any video of this?
B
No, it just. The sheriff was talking. I didn't bore you with the video? Yeah, the sheriff's talking, but there's no video.
C
No, there's no out yet.
B
I didn't see the video of it, but I'm telling you what, that. Yeah, you. You call it gf. We call it human rights violation.
A
There were five deputies involved.
C
Yeah, there were more.
B
I didn't. It was long.
D
I mean that.
C
We always talk about this. You need more. More to make it a safer apprehension. Right. So if it. If I'm in jail, they're already.
D
Listen, dude, I would baby oil up if there was more than one or two. I get neck and cover myself in baby oil, so you could never get your hands on me. And I'd laugh the whole time. You could be able to touch him.
A
I got greased pig.
D
No, no, that's what you do. You get naked and you put baby oil every. And you just sell them. Come get it.
B
There's a guy in Rikers island for doing that. You know Diddy's in Rikers island for doing that.
D
Yeah, I get that, but he was trying to be touched. Oh, I wasn't trying to be touched.
C
Is Trump really trying to do what he did to Diddy? What's that word?
D
He's not gonna do it. I'm gonna tell you. Right. He's not gonna do it. And I'm gonna give you my honest opinion. After that video got released of him whooping Cassidy, there's no way in the million years that Trump's going to put his name on that video. Yeah, I'm just. I'm just being honest.
B
Pardon would be. It didn't happen.
C
Right, right.
B
Yes, clemency is. You've done your time.
D
Yes, I'm gonna. No, he just commutes your sentence. That's it. So you still got the conviction. Okay. So. So the thing is, is you got to realize is that Trump's got daughters and when you see that video, it's really bad. Okay. And I don't. Just don't think Trump's gonna put his name on it. I'm sorry, he gotta. He didn't get much time. So he'll get out in two years. He'll be out next year. Next November.
C
Right now?
D
Yeah, yeah, next. So. So there's no sense of doing it.
C
What do you get? Is it for human trafficking?
B
No, he got the lesser. Like some sex case.
D
Sex case. Yeah, it's Not a rico. All he did was just so he got the lesser.
B
Like delivering women trafficking. So human trafficking would have carried, like, forever.
D
Yeah. Yeah. But here's the problem, though, is I didn't even think he was going to get really that. And the reason why I say it is is because. Just because if I pay a girl in my home state, it's not sex trafficking, but if I take her across state lines now, it becomes. So it's like he was banging girls in Las Vegas, and then. Yeah, well, whatever you want to call him, but. But then he goes back to New York and he's like, bro, like, I really like that dude that was. I was banging in Las Vegas. He had good booty. So I was like, let me call him up and ship them to New York and pay him. Right? So the dude got paid. The female. Whoever got paid to come to New York got a bonus, and then they went back home. No jury in the right mind is going to be like, well, I'm going to give him 20 because the customer was so happy they flew there.
B
Any of the major stuff that he was accused of, the victims, kind of. I mean, that's a tough case for real women victims that bailed out.
A
We can't even get anything going on. Epstein.
B
Yeah.
D
So you're not. You know why you're not gonna get on. I've seen what.
A
Listen, does he work for Mossad?
D
No, no, no. Think about this. I want you all to really think about this. So what was that list designed for record?
B
I think it was designed so he could blackmail people.
D
Okay. It's a blackmail list. Am I right or wrong?
B
Yeah.
D
Okay, so what is the list? Good. If you expose who's got the list?
B
Who knows at this point?
D
Trump's got it. So if he exposes the list. I know, but he didn't do no good with it. So let me explain. Whoever's got the list has got the what?
B
The power.
D
Okay, so if you expose everybody on the list, what happens?
B
Yeah, they all face their music, and then it's gone.
D
It's all gone. Okay, so. So here's the point of about it is if you expose it, it means nothing.
B
Yeah.
D
He has everybody in the world working against him. Trump's got. There you go. So he's got everybody working against him. Why you think all big tech and.
B
Everybody'S like, I'll millions of dollars, I'll do whatever you want to do. Get back on you.
D
Do all these things. Get them on everything. Because you know why? Because he's got that Damn list. And he's getting. You know, he's sitting there like a damn thing, just pulling them. And he probably calls him up and like, hey, today I was thinking, I want something a little. And they're like, what do you want, Mr. Trump? Anything you want. He's like, I'll call you back tomorrow. And he's probably toying with them. Think about this.
C
Yeah.
D
I don't even care who's on the list. We already know who's on it.
A
His name is Jeremy.
C
You give up all of your leverage.
A
And this is his test.
D
So did you got to realize another thing is, who gives a. What's on the damn thing? We already know who's on it. We already know what the list is about. What is it going to change? Tell me what is going to change to anybody in this room right now? Is it going to change any of your minds if you know who it is? No.
B
Yeah, there's parts of him and leaked and speculated.
C
I thought it was flightless.
B
Yeah, but I mean, where did they go?
C
Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that.
B
No, you know, on a plane with the guy and you go to a private island. Doesn't mean much. Just picking strawberries. And then he flew back, man.
C
Yeah, man.
B
Maybe they are on it. Like, come on. But you're right. You're right. At this point, it's kind of like the Hunter Biden, they. They drugged Hunter Biden's laptop out so long that when you found out it was all true, you're like, we already knew that.
D
So. So here, here's. The next thing is. And I'm. And I'm not sticking up for them and what they did is wrong. But let me explain something to you. Who's to say. Percentage. A big percentage or 50. 50% of these people were drugged and put in a room with a girl and got them on video.
B
Yeah.
D
And framed so they can have this leverage. Our CIA is corrupt. Okay? They do the most craziest, dumbest thing. So why. I understand why he probably doesn't want to release it. Also because he's made comments like, hey, listen, he's hinting to, like, some of these people probably been framed.
B
It's not.
D
And you're gonna ruin their lives because they're framed. Because. Think about it. What's.
B
You can't come back from that, can you?
A
Can you file a lawsuit over that?
B
No.
D
How do you prove your innocence on a lot? Yeah.
B
One's in prison, one's dead.
A
He goes, here's the list. These are all the Knuckleheads that are on it.
B
You cannot overcome your name being on that list. If you're innocent, it doesn't matter what you do.
D
It's. It's done. It's over with.
B
Your career is done.
D
And the thing about it is, is think of the percentage of people that's been framed on that list. Yeah, I'm gonna explain this. Have you ever heard where the CIA where. You hear these top people, podcasters and all kinds of stuff that have been in the government said that they threaten them with saying, hey, you'll wake up tomorrow with kitty porn on your thing if you don't do this.
C
Wait, they say. They said that they've been threat that?
D
Yeah.
C
Oh, I've never heard that.
D
So you got to realize is one thing, is that they've been told that, you know, in the government, it's polit. This is coming from politics. People that talk to politicians that said, like, you know, if you don't do this, I mean, look what's coming out with Charlie Kirk. I mean, Cash Patel was yelling at what's her name because she wanted to investigate. And they're like, whoa, no, no. Yeah. I mean, you. You want us not to be conspiracy theorists, but then you gag order everybody. You stonewall it all. You. You lie to us. We find out so much crazy stuff, and. But then you want us to sit here and behave and be good people. This is what's so good about podcast and thing. Because think about just 20 years ago, we had, what, three or four news channels? Yeah. And they're all owned by how many people? All the newspapers and what, five? I think it is. I think all the. I think all the newspapers and news channels are owned by only five companies.
F
Yep.
D
I think so. Yeah. So the big five. So think about how brainwashed we were, because now we live in a social media world where literally within seconds, we're getting live reports on everything by the seconds, and they can't control it. So think about nightly news. They were like, all right, guys, we're gonna tell the dummies of the world. We've seen Jesus. And the sun is not red or yellow. It's. It's blue today. And it's like. And it's like, really good.
C
Walter Cronkite.
E
Yeah.
D
You know, it's just. Yeah.
E
That's what I was talking about last week, though, is see so much more of everything now. I think it's a good thing you're watching them.
B
I mean, like, you saw Saving Private Ryan as a movie.
E
Yeah.
B
You see Ukraine And God's alive. Buildings blowing up, bombs and missiles, stuff you never were supposed to see.
A
I mean, the three of us joined the military because we genuinely, truly believe what the government was.
C
I know. That's the shittiest part, man.
B
I came back. I came back and did it a second time. And so did you. I did it a second time. I was like, man, these guys are great. I'm gonna go to fight for these guys.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
And here we are.
B
Yeah, here we are.
C
Here's what that's a. If I think working for the government gives you the best training in the world. Tactical or being a cop. It sounds kind of corny talking to somebody that time in prison, but it does make you the best customer service oriented person in the world you can get. If you do a couple years as a cop, you can get any job in the world because you just tailor your resume to everything you're good at, people skills. But I mean, like, I like everything we talk about. I mean, we're all out of the game now. All of us out of every game we've ever.
D
Are you sure?
A
Yeah.
C
I don't know.
D
I hope. I don't know if we're ever out of the game.
B
Oh, boy.
C
But what I'm saying is now we are sitting here doing this because of what we did. So if I. If we hadn't been in the military and law enforcement, what the would we talk about?
E
Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Is the military also, like, think about all the government funded, like, cool experiences you got.
C
Yeah.
E
All the helicopter flights or the guns.
A
Iraq was awesome, by the way.
E
I loved Afghanistan and Syria. I was kind of all over the place for RC East.
A
Okay.
C
Yeah, okay.
A
Sorry, didn't mean.
C
I don't know rcs. I never went to Afghanistan.
D
I was in the military too. I went to Maxwell Air Force Base once.
B
Is there a prisoner?
C
Yeah, I'm affiliated with the military.
E
Airport.
B
And they all pointed their guns at.
C
Mecter coming off the C130.
B
I mowed.
D
I mowed the landing strip and worked in a museum.
B
So you're like a vet?
D
Yeah.
B
Well, yeah.
C
You were out there with the veteran, the military guys sweeping up the parking lots in the Marine stones, mud pies.
B
Or whatever you called it.
D
My baby. No, hey, I've been on Conair. I've been on Conair quite a few times. I did a video on it because it was so crazy about Conair. And I want you to listen to this dumb. So they give us. Rumor has it, like, x Drug cartel planes. They're 747. So you're wrong. They're just regular planes. They got duct tape on them. Like the wings got duct tape, all kinds of stuff. And these U.S. marshals, they put them on these planes. So you know how like certain planes come in, they like turn just real slow and come in nice and easy. Dude, these. Dude, you're chained, waist bound, shackles all on this plane. And dude, he comes into these airports and he'll throw that thing totally on its side and he'll whip that thing back over. Dude, you'll have half the plane grabbing the bag. Dude, it's so bad.
B
First class or what? Kind of. What kind of.
D
No, the girls get.
C
The first class.
D
Girls get to sit up front. And then you have to sit a regular seat. Regular seat.
A
I mean, I guess you're not reaching up for the. The.
D
Dude, it's no different than. It's exactly what you see when you go to the airport and fly. It's not nothing different. You're just shackled.
A
And is it World Airlines that flies you guys?
D
No, the U.S. marshals, they change them.
E
All the time, I think because there was. I went over to Syria like 20, 21. And there was a different.
A
It wasn't worth. Yeah, it wasn't the, the CIA.
E
No. They probably just changed the contract.
D
Yeah.
A
Because World Airlines was it for a while.
E
Yeah.
A
And that was. I think that was the last freedom bird I ever got on.
C
Yeah.
D
Lines.
C
Let's spin another video.
A
Let's do it.
B
Let's go random. Let's see.
A
Just.
C
First one on the list.
A
First one.
C
First one. Lewis.
B
Oh, this is, this is local.
D
This is your.
B
This is your county. Right.
D
And I'm. And we are here at the Seminole.
C
State College Sanford Lake campus, currently setting.
D
Up for our 8th annual Halloween Spectacular and Car Show. It's from 6 to 8pm so come join us.
B
Notice the, the. The one on the left has a. Like an express belt on.
D
Gun.
B
No gun, no equipment.
C
She's not in the field.
B
They're in a public place.
C
No, I'm saying she's not a cop.
D
She is.
C
She's a public relations cop.
D
Yeah, but I thought cops, like female ones, wear bigger clothes so they don't look so big. He's in a fashion show or something.
B
So here's how I. Here's how I judge. Judge the videos.
C
Let's finish it so we can make the screen bigger. Oh, that's okay.
B
Remove it.
C
Yeah.
B
Once I get sent a video 25 times, I go, I'm Posting on the story. So it's on my story story. And everybody says the same thing. Like that's not the example of what we should be seeing as cops. They're. They're not properly dressed. I don't care what the they're doing. She has a Chanel or some fancy designer belt, not a real gun belt. Not able to carry a gun. Why are we projecting that to the public as what police should look like?
D
You already know the answer to this, right?
B
It's recruiting. It's getting people nicer. Police force.
D
No, no, no, no. Think about this. I want you to think about this.
B
It.
D
So when Biden changed the military recruiting thing. Right. Remember how you changed it and made it soft and they brought in all the crazy stuff?
B
Yeah.
D
What did their numbers do?
A
They went down.
D
They went down. So what they're trying to do is make a shortage. So because they're trying to get a.
B
Rate, they're not going to get. It's going.
C
I love this, guys. Not even conspiracies. Just think about it.
D
You. You just. You're recruiting two different things. So you're getting the recruiting numbers down. Okay. And the conspiracy is that they're trying to get rid of the patriots, people that really want to fight and they want to get people in that are not patriots so they can, you know, they're not doing their job.
B
They're not putting. They're putting the number of quality people down. They're not putting the number down. They're hiring Everybody. Them. The 30 by 30 initiative wants 30 law enforcement as women. By 2030, we're at like 14. That's what they look like.
D
Yeah. Yeah.
B
You're going to double that.
A
Let me, let me, let me push back on this.
B
Go ahead, Jimmy, hit him. Hit him with it.
A
If you are a politician and you are utilizing the law enforcement as your force arm to enforce your will, why would you want to have weak people doing it?
D
It seems counterintuitive because you don't understand that they're protected. They got the good people. They don't care about us. They need us to fight and have problems stuff to put us their agenda. Why you think they do the dog wag the tail thing like big events over here and they're passing laws over here. They don't. Why would you recruit and make our recruiting go down and, and, and pull the. Our military and stuff?
C
What.
D
Why would you do that for?
A
But, but here's. Here's the thing. I mean, I don't disagree with you in principle, but it's counterintuitive. And here's why. If you don't have the sled dog warrior types, one day you're gonna run out of them. And it is a parachute.
B
I think they have, they have them though, close to them, them.
A
Right. For now.
B
That government's never going to fall. They got their bunkers, they got their places to go. And those guys, tough guys with beards and cool acronyms are going to protect them from ever going down. They don't care if there's a hundred of them left. And that's all it's left on earth. Those people that are at the top are going to protect themselves.
A
But here's the problem with that, Mike, is that there's plenty of us out there that got pushed out, that got, that didn't, that aren't doing it anymore because you don't.
D
You follow the constitution, you follow the rule law, you don't follow their agenda. They want people that are going to push against them, not people that are going to follow.
E
See, I think there just are less of, I guess like what we're calling the patriots, the, the barrel chested freedom fighters. There are less of those in society now and they still need to make numbers. No, I think they're 100 or less.
D
No.
B
Yeah.
E
I've been in the military 15 years. I see a lot less.
D
Let me tell you why. I mean just like Mike and a lot of other people, I know a lot of people that'd be ready to do it, these young kids, but nobody wants to put up with the. Yeah, they've caused so much problems, so much. And listen, the way they're. I'm a criminal, okay? We need cops. I want, and be honest with you, all this soft stuff, it's like cartels, they like President Trump, okay? Because they make money when Trump comes and shuts the border down, okay? So the price drugs go up so now they don't have to transfer as much drugs, traffic them and they make more money on less drugs. So Instead of pushing 20,000 kilos, we can push 10,000 kilos and make even more money than on the 20. Okay? So you got to think of it this way. Why would I go join law enforcement when they're prosecuting them, bashing them, doing all this stuff, they don't respect them anymore and, and tie their hands. All you hear about from law enforcement all the time is my hands are tied, My hands are tied as a criminal. I love it. I wish I was a criminal now because the law enforcement's so soft. These boys are Making way more. More money. They're, they're getting away with way more. Their training is less, their training's less, everything else. So I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, I know a lot of people that would do great at it, but they're like, I'm not going to go put myself in that.
B
Here's the example. And you think, like you said, somebody pulled you over. I don't think they knew who you are. And here's why. Nobody does intelligence or homework anymore. These kids are worried about social media playing on their phone and Instagram. Back when I was in, we didn't have all that.
C
You didn't have anything.
B
We had a board with everybody's name on it. And I focused on where's this guy live, where's his mom lives, where's he going, where's he go? That was my job.
D
But Mike, how he chased me down and got in behind me, maybe. Listen, it tells me in a way, like I feel like when I back in the day when they follow me. So my next door neighbor was this old drug smuggler dude, and he was nobody on the big level, small level, he would get up about 4:30, 5:00 clock every morning and drink his coffee on the front porch. So he was watching the agents watch me. So he knew they were. So he'd tell me the vehicles. So. So I was out mowing my lawn one day and I seen the car come. So I pulled my pants down and started walking with my ass out, right? And turn around, gave him the finger. And you could tell they're thinking like, how does he know this? I didn't have no cameras. I didn't have no nothing. So the thing is, is that I'm watching them, they're watching me. But like, you just don't race up on somebody from a distance, get behind the trailer.
B
I'm telling you. And I know as a, as your past, you're giving credit it for what you dealt with before you went to prison and what you're kind of arguing against yourself with your argument about the cops. They're not training, they're not focused. I can go right now to any cop that's been there five, six years and say, who's Jason Vulture back? Who is this guy? Who? But who?
D
Who?
B
They don't even know who I am. You go back in the hood now back to guys I was dealing with my whole career. They're gonna know who you are. They're gonna know who I am. These new cops don't care about who you are.
D
They don't.
A
Is that the institutional knowledge that's, that's.
B
Just like he said, they're making too much money. And I may say that they're not making enough money. They're making way more money than we made. There's no incentive to go to war against crime and drugs because you're going to get arrested.
D
You're gonna, Their hands are tied. And you hear them all say is, is why am I gonna go. I, I, there's too much like, going on to where they're like, why am I gonna, do I get paid regardless? I'm not gonna go do this stuff if, if I'm gonna get in trouble and push back. You enforce. This is what the cops are telling me.
B
The Constitution. You enforce the constitution, but it's not afforded to you.
D
It's like our military, I can't do this. We want door kick. We want military dudes that go in and just absolutely do, do crazy. Like, like, let's get it over with. I feel like cops should be the same. I'm a criminal. And I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, I, I, I would expect cops to come and slam me on my head and DDT me when they come get me and do stuff. And now today they're like, hey, Mr. Rock, can you please stop running and picking hands behind you?
C
Well, I was thinking about this the other day. Say, do you remember, I mean, back even when I started, even when body cams were just, you know, if someone ran from you, the understanding is if you run on foot, right foot, right.
D
Doing something wrong, when you get caught.
C
Up with, it's, it's a, it's not going to be a, you can't just go, all right, you got me. It's a little, it's, it's at least a spear tackle.
D
That's what I'm saying.
A
You're catching an ass whooping on the way today.
D
They're gonna be like, Mr. Von Beck, please slow down.
B
They're gonna pull out their gun instead of their taser and actually shoot you.
D
I get it.
A
But.
C
Or it's gonna be some tiny female.
B
And you said this earlier today, criminals.
D
Are laughing at cops.
B
He say, but you wanted tough cops because even though you're a criminal, you wanted your family to be protected when your wife goes to the store, when your grandma goes to the store. 100 need tough. Regardless of what I'm doing, you're doing as a criminal. I don't care.
D
I signed up for what I did. I expect to consequently, that's why I go to trial and I don't cooperate. Okay, here's the next thing you got to realize about the whole cop thing to me is, is back in the day, you didn't have people talking to the cops the way you did today. You know why? They beat your ass. Okay. Today, people think it's funny to go up and put cameras and just talk and get away with it. Back then they'd be like, yeah, wait until you get that far.
C
It's like, if you went up to your dad as a kid and you're like, you, dad, you expect him to beat your ass. Now, if some kid did that, you know, it's just. It's a story.
B
You can't yell at kids. Teachers can't yell at kids. It's just a society has changed to where every and everything is soft. And now, look, I'm glad you brought.
D
That up, because one of the things I tell cops today, there's no way I could be a cop, and I have a lot of disrespect for the cops now. I lost a lot is because of COVID They would literally get orders to go rest. The gym membership guy and the guy that's trying to keep the business open and put food on the table.
C
Yeah.
D
And then people be protesting, looting, doing this stuff, and they're like, nope, I.
B
Was told not to do nothing.
D
And it's like, the business owner, I gotta go arrest them. And it's like, come on.
B
I got thrown out of the gym by my own agency. What? I got thrown out of the gym by my own agency. I worked there. And they enforced it all the way to the fact that because you're not a part owner. Owner, you have to go home. The gym was closed. It was empty. And I was going to an empty gym to work out, and my agency came and removed me.
C
While you were a cop?
B
While I was a cop. 2020.
D
Yeah. They removed me.
B
He said, well, you don't. You. Even though you work here? I worked off duty as a personal trainer. Even though you work here, you're not an owner. And we're gonna.
C
Was it gonna cause a lot of problems if you said, you're arrest me?
E
They just didn't want your legs to get big, so they.
B
That's the reason these are small. That was leg day. Last leg day, and I never went back.
D
Okay.
C
I was gonna say. Because I was. When. When he was talking about it, I was gonna say, well, not in Florida.
D
But no, it happened.
B
It happened to you in your county threw me out of my own gym.
C
That you worked at.
B
Yep.
C
So the guy you had two jobs. One was a cop, one's personal trainer. The cops from your one job threw you out of the building that you work at for your other job.
D
Listen, they're such cowards these days that they should say. But they should say like listen, these. This is standard dude paying taxes doing what he's supposed to do. I'm not doing my job cop. But no, they'll say that against somebody that's breaking the law today. And that's where I have a lot of disrespect. Because I signed up to do what I did. I knew the consequences.
C
Okay?
D
And I knew that cops would be after me. And that's why I studied them and watched them and paid and everything else. But the point. What I'm getting at is you got people out here today following the rules and they're getting punished more than the criminals. And that's where your cops have lost all respect. People don't. Don't respect them anymore. And it's only going to get worse until cops you say, you know what? Tell their boss I'm not arresting this guy. Do what you need to do.
A
Listen, listen.
B
You have a cop come over here and make a basic report for anything. Your tire got slashed. You call in and say he was rude. That dude's in for a week or two of investigation for the mere complaint. He was rude. Oh God.
D
He was rude. Thanks for telling me that. Yeah.
C
He didn't.
D
For all the cops now, he didn't seem.
B
I didn't like touched me. He touched me. He didn't seem sincere. Well he just left to death. And then you know this is going on that go. But he's here to take your report. You can get complained on now. And I know certain cities are reviewing body cameras and they're just. You get a day off no matter if you find. They find one thing. You drove 100ft with your seat belt off, they give you a suspension.
D
So let me tell you this. So I went to the no Kings rally, right.
B
I saw it. Yeah. He had video but I couldn't get the whole video. I told you was running around the Trump flag.
D
So nobody does that. I'm the only one that does it. I'm the only one that goes out there on foot in front of 34000 people. Like I literally walk through them and talk everything I can say to him for content like I just dog them out and I got grandma's beat me up People hit me, and I just keep. Keep trucking on, laughing. You know what the cops did? They call my probation officer.
C
Are you serious?
D
They called her and was like, he's out here. Can you do something, please?
B
He's out here exercising his First Amendment.
D
So listen to this. So I get abused by all these women, right? They're just beating me with all kinds of stuff, trying to grab my flag. Like, one cop actually out of One, out like 20 cops, is the only one that did his job. He's seen her do it. I didn't know he went after her. I kept going. I just keep going. I don't even pay attention because I'm doing it on purpose for content.
C
Content, okay.
D
Just being an.
A
You're a troll.
D
So, yes. Okay, so content, control. So anyways, I. I go down, they chase me down. Like, hey, Mr. Voucher back, come here. You know, we need to talk to you. Not in a restaurant. Nothing happened. Here's a case number. Blah, blah. We're booking her for trying to steal your flag. And we've seen it. We got it on camera. I'm like, okay, cool, whatever. Just tell her to come out here and apologize and Trump's king or whatever, and on camera, and I won't press charges. And they're like, no, we're done with it. We're booking her. So anyways, I started getting beat up by these other ones from the cops, and they turn their heads, and I'm like, if this was a conservative doing this to dude, you would be on your head. And I looked at him, I said, dude, all y' all are scumbags. I said, I got everyone get badge numbers now. I said, because this. This. These. These people just did. Three of them was doing it to me. I said, y' all don't want to do anything right in front of you. I said, but if I did it, everyone, you'd be over here, arrest me. Slamming in my head.
C
Yeah.
D
And I said, this is why a lot of people don't have no respect for y' all anymore.
B
You deserve.
D
I did. I talked. Listen, you can ask my girl. I talk cash to everybody. I don't back down from nobody. Because, listen, I've already been through the war zones. I've been to the worst prisons. I've been around some of the biggest, baddest gangsters. I've been shot at. I've been kidnapped in other countries. I've shot somebody else.
C
You're like the Jimmy Watson of the criminal world.
A
Jimmy, if you're watching, man, the fear.
D
The Fear is over with.
C
Okay.
B
Yeah.
C
What were you gonna ask? Sorry.
A
Yeah, I mean, like, why is it that you think that so many, like. Prof. Like, I don't call you a career criminal. You a professional criminal.
E
Yeah.
A
Why are so many professional criminals so conservative, especially with law?
C
They respect. They respect the game.
B
Yeah.
D
It's a game. It's not. I don't listen. So it's like racism. People don't wake up. People don't wake up and say, you know what? I hate Latinos and black people. I want to kill them all today. Nobody does. What happens is, is somebody of a different race pisses them off, and they go off on them, and they're like, nope, he's racist. No, it's. I just don't like you. Okay. I just don't like you. I like the rest of them just like cops. They're kids I went to school with. They're the people that I grew up around. They're. They're normal people like me. They just choose to do that. I don't have a problem with them. I really don't know. Most criminals don't have a problem. You pay them because they're corrupted, just like me. They all drink and drive. They speed on a daily basis. Is. And everybody has a price tag. You can say whatever you want. You can be the straightest man ever. You got a price tag on that booty, okay? So you can say what you want to say. And people have to understand this in life.
B
Imagine being a cell man. He's talking to you all day.
A
And I don't want to put a criminal. Chemicals in the water that turn the.
B
Crocs to make me confess. I'm ready. Like, I'm ready right now.
C
Do you have.
F
Have.
C
Do you have the. The video I sent you of the dude just boxing all the security guard. Did you put that in the video file?
B
No idea.
C
All right.
D
Colt.45. I appreciate that.
B
Hold on. That's the same video. I have no idea what's up there.
C
I don't.
A
Put on your. Put on your bifocals.
C
I can't see.
A
Well, you go. Well, if you didn't wear sunglasses.
D
Yeah.
C
If you don't remember, then you probably didn't. It's a security guy.
D
Click on them.
C
Yeah, just click number two.
B
You go up. Not that one. The next one. Oh, no, we watched. Yeah, this is one. This one's getting the one up. Up the girl.
C
Here you go.
B
This is Princess George county, where we went in D.C. and I've got. Sent this one, too.
D
You can give a label. It is double racist. Now give a government shutdown. Are you looking for a career you can rely on? Join the Prince George's County Police Department and contact the recruiter today.
B
She's got neck tattoos and her English.
C
Watch again. How do you watch it again?
D
Were you affected by the government shutdown? Are you looking for a career you can rely on? Join the Prince George's County Police Department and contact the recruiter.
C
Put it back on me. Let me get a soliloquy out here.
D
Needs a job. Oh.
C
So she said if you're affected by the government shutdown that we have a job for you.
D
Do.
C
They're literally recruiting people that are. Don't have the ability to make it on their own.
B
Yeah.
C
To be cops.
F
This is.
B
This is. This is where the acorn. Not acorn. This is where the dude got in the back seat of the car with the. The black girl.
E
Yeah.
B
Princess George county guy. They had a guy get caught getting in the backseat with a black.
D
I think they'll hire me as a cop.
B
Yeah, you probably. Yeah. You're not affected by it, right? Oh, officer's still at work.
C
I've never seen that before. Dude. If you. If you were affected by the shut down come stable paycheck. Somebody recorded for the Man.
B
Yeah, somebody recorded that and said this is it. This is the one that's going on the Internet for everybody to see. And there we ran in some really good people. We were up. That's where we were. That's where we stayed in the hotel. Everybody came up to us from that. Yeah, we had some really cool people. Their command staff came by, wasn't very excited with me because I made videos about their agency. But that goes on what I'm saying. That is what is being recruited and what is patrolling a very dangerous. You know, it's right on the other side of the water from D.C. d.C. Is a disaster. Well, these are cops in D.C. devil's.
E
Advocate, can I tell you government workers are furloughed. So you could be like an FBI. You can't work two places and you're affected by the government shutdown.
B
You can't work too.
C
No, they're not furloughing the FBI.
E
Well, you know, bad example.
B
But the marshals aren't getting paid. Who wasn't out the government working.
C
Yeah.
D
For free.
E
You'd be like a contractor on base somewhere.
B
You could.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
I just.
B
I don't know what that attracts.
D
Why would you do that? You'd be a criminal. You get paid year Round. Listen, listen. When you got like, economy slows down or speeds up. So when it. When economy's doing good, people got a lot of money to buy drugs. When the economy's doing bad, they're all depressed and they're selling everything to do drugs. It's great. It's recession.
E
They're also like, have a lot of money to buy, like, TVs.
B
And you get a really cool vacation in a dark cell for six months at a time. It's really. It's really good.
A
You ever read any books about the guys in the Hanoi Hilton that spent all that time in solitaire?
D
No, Like, I read a lot of books on like, how to take over the world type stuff, like masterminds. That's what I love.
A
It never. It does not surprise me.
D
Not even, you know, why waste.
C
How time you.
E
How close are you to taking over the world?
D
Nowhere.
E
Where are you in your playbook?
D
At the very bottom.
B
You'll get there. He's got to go probation.
C
You'll get there, bro.
B
He's got to be able to leave the state of Florida first so he can get to the rest of the world.
A
He broke down today. Exactly how far from works.
B
He gets arrested.
A
Like, this is a chain conspiracy. And this is this kind of.
F
Jesus Christ.
B
I didn't tell you this. This being filmed in Ohio. You love to be.
D
Yeah. I can go anywhere in the United States rights. I have to get it. Yeah. I have to get permission from the judge, though, to leave the country. Okay. I have to write the judge forever. I don't know.
B
I just gotta pick up 12 bricks and I'll be back.
A
Hey, I gotta go down to Columbia.
D
For a little while.
A
Things are a little hot in Venezuela.
D
So the first day that I get off all this that I'm on, I'm going straight to Columbia, stay at night, coming back next day just to all the way so I can video for content. And I'm gonna be like. When they're done, I'm like, like, thank you for that. Did cost me nothing but a plane ticket.
C
Give him the gloves.
A
Yeah.
B
Jim's in the.
D
No, I'm get a huge condom and put it in my pants when they dig down and find it.
C
Oh, Jim from Elevated Silence is here.
D
Let's bring him in.
B
Get Jim in.
D
Oh.
C
Jim, hit the.
F
What's up, guys?
C
What's up, man?
D
Hold on.
C
We're.
D
We're.
C
We're messing with the screen. Hold on.
B
Left, left, left.
C
Where is that? Good.
D
One more.
B
There you go.
F
My glasses on.
B
Don't Zoom it on me. Zoom it on Tyler. There you go.
C
Jim, how you doing?
F
I'm good. Gentlemen. How are you guys?
C
Good. This is. By the way, ladies and gentlemen. This is Jim. Jim Hood, the owner of Elevated silence. Go to elevated silence.com. use promo code antihero. Save 15 on your cans. So we were talking about being felons.
B
And so your audience just shrunk for.
C
But like. All right, so for people, the non felons in our listene group or on the couches.
D
Listen, felon spend money too. Yeah.
A
Not on suppressor.
C
We'd have to get you the suppressor another way. Oil filter. How easy is it for somebody that's never bought a can to. I've never. For instance, for me, I've never went for a. What do you call that? The stamp.
B
Yeah, I've never.
C
Any stamps that. But how. How easy is it for someone to. To. To purchase a can from Elevated Silence?
F
So there's a misconception in the non can owning world that it's. It's pretty arous to arduous to go through the process to get it. It's not that bad. It's. You got to give your fingerprints and a.
B
Your.
F
Your photo. You get in the system and then it's.
B
What did you hold? Our tech guy ruined it all.
A
God damn it. Lewis.
C
Lewis. Why? Hold on, Lewis. I'm trying to mess with things in the middle. Lewis, uncheck the box. You checked.
E
Well, he's not talking. Have him talk. We might be able to hear him.
F
One, two, three.
D
There we go.
C
Our producer likes to mess with things in real time.
B
I see what you're doing, Louis. It was low. He was trying to increase the volume.
C
All right, so Jim. I'm sorry. So you said it's a. It's a common misconception.
A
Way to go.
F
Process is difficult. It's really not. You get your fingerprints done, you get your photo taken, you fill out the Form 4 and we submit it to the ATF and it goes through all the three letter agencies for approval and you know, within a week you got your can where it used to be a year we got those wait town wait times down a good bit. So it's not the reward you get for shooting suppressed versus not is. It's well worth the 20 minutes of your time that it takes to go through the process. It's not that bad.
C
Could you. Could you elaborate some on those? Like the. The pros of shooting suppressed.
F
So you're talking to a 50 year old that still has ringing is a ears Mike, you're 50. You know what I'm talking about?
B
49. 49.
F
That's 50 in my world.
D
All right.
F
It's. To be able to shoot on the range with no Ear Pro is phenomenal. In case you got to call a ceasefire. You're able to hear it. You're not. You're not peeling your ears off. It protects your ears. I mean, it. It's more or less a. A device to Pro. It's personal protection.
B
What do we call that?
F
Yeah, yeah, there you go. It's personal protection equipment. And it's. It's phenomenal. It just takes the level of shooting to an entirely different level.
D
I like this guy.
C
Yeah, Jim's the man.
B
Yeah, he took us shooting. A great, great guy. He took us out and brought all his guns, set everything up basically just like. Like dad would like. He set everything up. Didn't we have to do anything and have fun? It was. It was a great day. And it is. It's convenient not having to wear your.
D
I want to go. But y' all can't have camera. No, no, no. There's nobody can video. You have to leave your phones back.
B
But yeah, I. After being there and you know, we had them in spot for a little while, then they got rid of them and it is miserable just even with Ear Pro on it, you know, it's just miserable being around all the time.
C
What's is it. What's the health risk as far as gases and emissions? Does that help with all that too?
F
It's actually a little. A little worse on the gas, especially on a gas gun, because you got blowback. But here, here's the. Not to get too far in the weeds, but when you shoot, when you're shooting, suppressed it cool. The. The suppressor cools those gases off inside that suppressor before they. They expel. That's what suppresses that sound. They're not silencers, they're suppressors. So you're. The gas has got to go somewhere. The more gas that comes out of the end, it's going to be louder. The less gas comes out of the end, it's going to be quieter. So the gas has got to go somewhere. So you're going to get a little bit in your face. But I mean, with science nowadays, you can dial your gun to however, however you want. If you want a little louder, not wanted a little louder. If you want a little less gas in the face, you can just tune your gun.
D
Gun.
F
It's not that difficult.
D
But I thought I was tuning your ammunition too.
F
Depending on. Depending on the ammo you're shooting. Absolutely.
D
Okay.
E
Jim, I got a question.
F
Come on.
E
I heard come January there's a potential. We're not paying tax stamps on suppressors anymore.
F
I'm gonna have to correct you a little bit. That's not a potential, that's a fact.
E
Right, There we go.
B
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
E
So is there now potential that, that maybe we don't have to fill out paperwork to buy suppressors anymore?
F
That part's incorrect. You still have to go through the process because we haven't done this yet.
C
Right.
F
The ASA has done a lot of work. American Suppressor association has done a lot of work. And we were able to get in the big beautiful bill. You know, the one that's just beautiful.
B
And you're gonna love it.
F
We were able to get in there to where the 200 tax stamp goes to a zero dollar tax down. The process remains the same. But you, you. But you don't have to pay the 200 for the ATF.
E
That's awesome. Your thousand dollar suppressor is $1,000 instead of being $1,200.
F
Yeah, absolutely.
A
What about, what about crossing state lines with it?
F
So you are supposed to, as an individual, you are supposed to figure out, of course, what state you're crossing and let the chief law enforcement officers know that you are passing through state lines.
C
Okay.
A
Even if it's not on an SBR.
F
It doesn't matter if it's SBR, because you got the NFA is SBRs, SBSs, short metal shotguns, suppressors, and machine guns. So the NFA, it goes to all, all three of those.
D
What about Trump just passed a thing where you can go across state lines now, or is that open carry?
A
That's, that's, that, that's reciprocity.
D
What?
B
Yeah.
F
That's for concealed carry.
A
Yeah.
C
What word did you use.
E
That means like each state's rules apply to each other? Kind of.
B
I love when you got surprised.
C
Reciprocity.
B
Yeah.
A
If I use the word litigious today, you looked at me like I got a growing out of my head. Yeah.
C
So when you say notify the chief law enforcement, are you talking about the ATF or do you just gotta know? Notify law enforcement in that area.
F
Law enforcement in that area.
C
Oh, okay.
F
Now I will say this. If you call them and say, hey, I'm about to pass through your county with a suppressor, he's going to ask, what. What are you calling me for?
C
Yeah, but I figured you're like, hey, I just said I had to Say I called.
F
I mean, we're in Florida. We're in the free state of Florida. I.
D
Our.
F
Our chief law enforcement officers all but required you to have a suppressor when you cross over into the state line. Jesus.
E
Exactly.
C
Welcome to Florida.
A
Yeah, absolutely. So what. What, what suppressor is your favorite General mission specific.
D
What are we doing?
A
So. So most people are running around with AR15s, right?
F
So that would be our newer HD. That's the one that, that you guys. One of the ones you guys shot at the range.
C
Yeah.
F
Mike, I think your wife fell in love with it.
B
Yeah. Yeah. You got me trying to spend money.
F
I mean.
B
She fell in love with that way more. She falls in love with me.
A
I've got a. That an AR pistol that I want to put one on, you know, just to do it, but at that point. So it's 11.5.
F
Yeah, you're. You're solid. Yeah, you put it on there. There's a lot of people that will disagree me when I say this, but I'm old and I don't have a whole lot of hearing left.
B
No, you're not that old. You're not that old.
F
I feel old.
A
You guys are both man and crew serves on Noah's Ark.
B
What they bring on those arc pigs. You're not supposed to kill.
F
So shooting an unsuppressed, short barreled AR15 is of the devil. The concussion, the noise, it's. It's unbearable. You put a can on there, it reduces the recoil by 30 to 50%. You don't have to wear ears. You can if you want to, but it's. It's awesome. You're not shooting your backyard in the neighborhood. You can do that with your.22 can.
A
According to Whoopi Goldberg, your suppressors make it impossible for cops to, you know, track down guns. But anyway.
F
Well, you know, suppressors kill people.
C
Yeah.
A
I mean, I. I shot suppressed off of M110, so a knight's armor M110.
C
Okay.
A
And that was like. Like, it was like a BB gun, man. It was like, this is. But I mean, we. But to your point, we had a long barrel on that thing, long rail.
F
Stuff, because you're getting the more powder burn. Absolutely.
D
Yep.
A
So, I mean, it was. It was nice. So I, I'm. I'm imagining like, what, What. What are we talking about here? Can you. Can you describe, like, this is what it's going to sound like? Can you give me.
C
Like, it's amazing.
A
I know it's amazing.
C
You got to make the.
B
I'm Trying to help. I'm trying to help.
C
Sounds with your mouth if it doesn't sound good.
B
Ready?
A
So I mean, like, hey. Is it like, hey, it's my dog barking? Is it like.
B
Yeah. Every time I shout the jes.
A
I'm trying to sell the presser to sell suppressor.
B
What does it sound like?
A
Yeah, what's a decibel level?
F
So you're looking between unsuppressed on a short barrel, you're looking between 160 and 170 decibels.
A
Okay.
F
When you suppress, what's that?
B
What's that?
C
Yeah, Jimmy, what's that sound like?
B
Jesus Christ.
C
I don't know, man.
A
I'm trying to help him.
D
Not me.
C
I'm like a really loud.
B
Oh, it was 175. I was out, man.
A
Sorry, Jim. Sorry, Jim.
C
I love you.
F
Anyway, so it'd be like a really loud clap and extremely loud.
A
Okay, so you're still gonna hear it.
C
Yeah.
F
It's a suppressor, not a silencer.
B
I hear that coming from the bedroom. Don't go in.
C
Yes, I was gonna. I was gonna ask that. Jim, the best layman's terms difference between a silencer and a suppressor.
F
Suppressors exist because that's what I make. Silencers do not not exist.
B
Silencer's like a fake name for it.
A
It's like the difference between a clip and a mag.
B
Oh, yeah, There you go.
A
Yeah.
F
A clip is aim.
A
Yeah, well, only if you have a M1 rand, right? I mean, I. I loved shooting suppressed. I loved it.
C
We had a blast with Jim.
A
That was fun.
B
Yeah, it was.
F
Now, out of all the suppressors that you'll end up owning in your life and all hunting and shooting that you do, a suppressed.22 subsonic is the most fun you'll ever have with your clothes.
A
Are we. Are we dropping into Nazi Germany to assassinate SS officers? Because that's what it sounds like here.
F
You could get up close and personally.
E
Yeah, it's like a BB gun.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, it's not even that.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, have you ever shot one of those?
B
Yeah.
F
It's a quiet snap.
A
So what about. How long do these things last for? So, like, what's the.
D
What's the.
A
The ammo life, you know? Like, I have a. A barrel on my. My bolt gun, my M24. My barrel life's 10,000 rounds, roughly.
C
Am.
A
Is my can gonna survive that, or do I need to get a new one? Do I got to send it to you to get refurbished?
D
What happens?
F
Depending on how it's built, it will More than likely outlive your grandchildren.
A
That's.
B
I love it.
A
That's fantastic.
C
I love it. And if you use code anti hero. Everybody listening right now that we all want suppressors. And now I want one. Now you can save 15 on your suppressor.
B
I just want that clapping zone.
A
Yeah. Hey, Mike, that's, that's for you.
C
Hey, Jim, thank you so much for joining us. We'll have you on anytime you want to. Come on. There really hasn't been any two way things going on. No, no. I mean, trying to keep you out of the weeds as far as some of our discussion. So you can say, hey, I wasn't part of that one, but I'll get.
F
All in the weeds. I don't care.
A
Is the NFA going to go away?
F
As you can see, I am trying my best to make the NFA go away.
D
Fan.
F
You know, we just got the examiners back to work for the ATF to start processing all the forms, so.
C
Oh, because they were at. For the government shutdown.
F
Because of the furlough. Furlough. So if they were non essential during the furlough, why they're essential now?
B
They gotta start processing those food stamp payments.
C
What stamps? That we brought that thing.
A
Somebody thought they said tax stamps. They were really said food stamps.
C
All right, Jim, thank you so much, man. I appreciate you coming on.
B
Thanks, Jim.
F
Thank you, guys.
C
Thank you for everything.
F
Good.
A
Yes.
B
Producer.
D
Hey, Mike.
B
Yeah.
D
What's up with Jen? So which one. Hey, Jen, what's going. Are you he or she? And which one are you?
A
Dude, you are.
B
Don't, don't, don't. Don't let it go, man. Don't, don't let it go. Let it go, man.
D
Let him go, guys. You like, let them cook. There's a reason you're in here.
B
Let them cook.
E
I know, but she's entertained, man.
B
Better be entertained. I saw some people talking about the comics.
D
Chance.
B
It's tough to talk to four dudes and a criminal or three dudes without making sure I didn't get my wallet. But it's tough to watch the screen and all that. So we're not begging for money, anything. But if you put a super chat up there.
C
Oh, yeah, they're big and high.
D
We're trying.
B
The morning show is more of a broadcast where. Yeah, we're looking at the screen right here. If you can see everything. The lights are bright.
C
Yeah.
B
Looking at each other. The comments are going by. So it's. It's hard to keep up and interact with the.
A
I got a Purple spot in my eye from this.
B
Yeah, it's bright.
D
Yeah.
C
I'll take a picture of this.
E
It is hard to see the comments, but I do see the one where Tyler's buying us all suppressors.
A
Yeah, I saw that one. Yeah. Tyler's getting a suppressor.
C
A 20 off discount from buying a boat. Oh, man.
A
Yeah, that. That light is wicked.
C
It is super bright.
A
I mean, like, I have, like a.
C
I can't see any of the comments.
B
Pull up another video.
C
Yeah, come on.
A
Hey, let's pull up the. Can we pull up the one that I sent you? Because I really.
B
I don't know.
A
I know exactly which one it is. It's that one right there.
D
There.
B
That one. That one.
D
Oh, I've seen this today.
B
He almost runs everybody over and.
D
And pulls a gun.
C
Pull the gun right there, that heater.
B
I don't know what you heard about me.
D
That's three charges right there, boys.
A
Yeah, that's exactly what you got, three counts.
D
That's gonna be a good three to five.
A
That's three charges right there.
D
You're supposed to pull the trigger.
B
As long as the dogs are okay.
A
Okay, dude. Okay.
B
So did we know what this is first?
A
Yeah, it's. Let me, let me, let me.
D
Yeah, but here's the problem is, like, what is wrong with people? Just, like, do they not know that pulling a gun, it's serious? Like, it's serious.
B
She should have got.
E
So you pull a gun, she should.
B
Be expected to be dead. Like when you pull that gun.
A
So that's in Lee Acres.
D
Yeah, as soon as you pulled a gun on me and you're threatening me, I can shoot you. You.
B
Well, in Florida, anyone can.
D
As long as it's in my house.
B
And.
E
And I live in my car.
B
You gotta drag them to your house.
D
So hear me this. I'll get more time in the feds for possession of firearms than the state will give me for killing the person.
A
And you're absolutely right. Jessica, her own cameras on her own car, testified against her snitch.
B
Yeah, one of those camera cameras. Yeah, that's that big camera on the.
D
Back of the 360.
B
Yeah.
D
Smart. I love her already. Can I marry her?
B
Let's.
A
So as a. As a professional.
B
What.
A
What are we critiquing here?
D
Oh, man.
A
Well, first off, you know, because you were, like, quick with it. You're like, that's three charges right there.
D
The problem is people think, like, I'm gonna go. So she's a social media person. Okay? I guarantee, if you go look up her account, she has a social media page and she's thinking, I got this, I'm gonna make a lot of content. But.
B
I don't even know.
A
I'm like, Alex Jones, until you saw.
C
That something you're like. What he's saying is, is that it sometimes times video. If you're still in the game, video even in 2025 is your enemy. And so if you're going to be running around with a gun trying to film content or running around anything, active cops, they'll say the same thing. They don't want to be on podcasts. Video is the worst thing unless you're an actual straight up content creator.
D
I didn't get a Facebook or any social media until I was in federal prison. Prison. I got my first Facebook page when I was in federal prison because I had a cell phone. Six out of eight years while I was in federal prison on a cell phone.
C
Well, I mean, Mike, how often your.
B
Your.
C
The latter part of your career, how much did you use voluntarily given information on the Internet against people? Oh, to track, AKA social media.
B
Oh, all the time. You knew where guys were posting stories. We had big Instagram accounts, so we'd be looking guys with warrants on the Marshalls.
C
I always said this. If you could take ego out of the game game, you'd be the most successful drug dealer ever.
B
Because they're it warrants drug dealer. All that stuff. They would post and then their location, they want to flaunt the gun. And you're like, oh, this dude's in four piers.
D
But here. But here's. You can ask my girl. There's hardly any pictures of me before I went to prison. Yeah, people would take pictures all the time. I'm like, no, you can't put me in it. I can't be in it.
C
You know what we call that in any other industry? You know, we call that a. A quiet profession. Professional. Any industry calls it, like, they would.
D
Be trying to like, whoa, I gotta get out of the same. I did not want to be in no place at a time on camera at all. I did not want. So it was so funny is when the feds got me, they didn't have nothing. They were like, what the. We have nothing on this guy. Like, we can't get him involved in anything because there was no pictures. If it wasn't with my daughter, there's no such thing as a picture. Like, I have all my friends take pictures with all my toys, you know, all the big money stuff. Stuff. Where's Jason? Yeah, he wasn't there that day.
B
Your boy was doing that. Helicopters and everything else.
D
He was at every. Dude, he's a Photoshop queen. Yeah, I was.
B
Here's where we talked about this on my show. Here's where I was a. Was. I gave people the false.
A
Don't, don't, don't give up story.
B
No, I gave people the false story that I was doing dumb because I took a lot of pictures and I was just a drunk and I was surviving mentally from. From, you know, my dad dying and all that stuff. And I portrayed some real happy, out public person.
D
When you were getting used to taking money and doing corruption, and then you sent a picture at a strip club with cash. Fanned out.
A
Yeah. Yo, yo, don't give away.
D
That's just money.
B
That was just money. I didn't know I was getting accused of it all. You did.
C
He actually took a photo.
B
It wasn't at a strip club. It was on my couch.
D
I don't know where it was.
B
No, I put the money on the couch.
A
It was like five.
C
And you did this as Not. Not a UC account, just Mike Dilks, the cop.
D
No, he didn't put it on account. Like a group text.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
The FBI was like, he sent in.
D
A group text because it came to you know who. And I seen it. I was like, oh, Mr. Dilks, what's.
B
It's illegal to go to strip club.
D
No. Okay, but. But it doesn't look good when you.
C
I was talking about. You're like that girl. You're like, you're. You're. You are not a quiet person.
B
I was. I made a lot of mistakes. None that were to the level that they thought. And I know you know that. We don't have to talk.
D
Yeah, no, you just come to the podcast.
B
Yeah, but I did a lot of dumb things like you said earlier that made me look bad. And that's where my platform is with cops, is don't do what I do Did. You're right. You shouldn't be in many pictures. You shouldn't be posting things that people can do. And I remember getting my LinkedIn of all things brought into court, and I thought, bro, this looks at my Facebook. I'd walk in bars and I had 30 beer cups in my hand sitting at the bar. I was waiting for somebody to bring.
D
That because girls, it was so easy to get them close to you. You're two drinks in. You're like. I was just like, did you get anything like.
B
No.
D
He slurred the whole time. I'm like, you didn't get nothing. They're like, nothing.
B
I was. I was a drunk dude, and that's unfortun. That is. I always said if they really cared, if there was a brotherhood, they would have said, yo, this dude needs alcohol help. He's a alcoholic. Instead, they.
D
No, no, no, no. Everybody wants to watch everybody fail. I don't care.
B
Cops are the worst.
C
100 true former cops, former military.
D
Not all of them, but a lot of them do.
B
There's entire YouTube platforms, and it's all they do.
D
Can I. Can I elaborate on the cop thing? Majority of people, if I might be wrong about this, but get out of the military and join law enforcement, or they're dorks in school and they got picked on and became cops. There's no in between. I don't feel like.
C
No, you're right. There's not.
D
So you have.
C
The military guys are like, get normal jobs.
D
I love it, and I want to go do the right thing. And they're the ones that I relate with military guys because, you know, they just. That's what they wanted to do. It's the other ones I don't relate to, and I can't. They almost all look like sex offenders in prison, like the chomos. And it's like, bro, can I see your phone real quick? Let me go through the photos real quick.
C
No, you're right. And they're. That what they do is they've never been in a confrontation in their life, but they are.
D
Are they how they were picked on?
C
All right, so. But you. They know. Just like, you know, when they wear that badge, they. You know, now the penalties are much more severe when you put your hands on them. And 99 of the population, criminals included, are like, I ain't gonna put my hands on you, dude. But they. They walk behind that. They stand behind that now. And I sound like some ghetto gunslinger, but.
D
Yeah, but how many criminals have y' all real gangsters. How are they when you arrest them? Trust them.
A
They're.
C
They're quiet, polite.
B
One of the most. I'll never forget it. He's Drop Dead Fred. They called him Fred Gregory. I know he killed three people. He's never been convicted of it. I know one's a cold case, and I remember stopping him. Terrified. Terrified. Dude's huge. He literally leaned forward and he said, you got me today. And he put his hands behind his back. Didn't resist, didn't fight. Teardrop tattoos down his face. Just the craziest, wildest dude ever. No fight.
D
The bigger the skin, everything less Attention on them.
B
Just go to jail, get it done.
D
They're easiest going respectful people you ever meet. Let me tell you something. So when I got arrested in Atlanta and they took me to one of the nasty county jails in Atlanta, right? So everybody's like, man, you don't want to go in the back. You're so lucky up front, up here with the misdemeanor stuff. And dude, let me tell you something. I finally got some. And they send me back to minimum security. And then I went to maximum security back where everybody was going on trial for murder.
B
In the public or county?
D
Yeah, in the county. Okay. In the maximum security guys, okay. So everybody's like, oh my God, you're going to the back. And I'm like, damn, dude. Like, this is crazy. Of course I'm the only white boy in there, right? So they tried to put me in a cell with this black dude. And I already know, like, I can't sell outside my race. You know, like when, where I'm going, what I'm gonna do. I can't sell outside my race. It went that way when I was in juvenile prison. So they try to open the door and there's this black dude there. I'm like, hey, CEO. I'm like, I'm like, I can't go in there. And he's like, why? And I said, my people ain't gonna allow that. Like, if I find out when I go into prison, like I sealed up with a black dude, it's gonna cause me problems. I. I don't run with a black gang, so I can't. And there. And I'm like, and what are you in here for? And he's like, man, double homicide. I'm like, yeah, I'm especially not getting locked in the door with this dude. I'm not gonna be in a cell with a separate race with a double homicide. And he killed his, his ex girlfriend and the boyfriend or whatever because cheating. I'm like, nah, I'm good.
C
Good.
D
So they end up cleaning the room. I was like, put me in the shoe. Like, I'll go live my time in the shoe. I can't. So I ended up going to. They cleaned a room out for me and I went in there, never had a problem. I got more fights, more problems up front in the misdemeanor block. Because when you're. Everybody always says, like, which place would you rather be at? I said, I'd rather be around killers and gangsters. They're the most respectful, laid back they got. They're accepted Their time. They know how to do time. They're not on no.
A
And they don't have anything to prove.
D
Prove they don't. They don't really have nothing. That's their home. They wanted to be as most relaxed and cool as can be. It's the jitterbugs, the little short timers. They don't have nothing to lose because they're only doing a couple years and this and that and they're trying to make act like they're somebody. And they know that because when you go to prison, you almost can break every law and you don't get no time added. You just lose good time. You don't get no charge. We can literally do whatever the we want in there and you don't get nothing.
C
There's a.
D
In the streets you get charged in there which like you can go and take care. I whoop somebody's ass. All I do is lose 41 good days of my good times. Time out here, you catch a battery charge, get all this things.
C
No gold star for you today.
B
That stuff that people. And that's. I mean that's as a deterrent like some of the stuff you're saying, people. Are people really ready to go do that. It sounds cool to go sell dope. Whatever you're going to do.
D
You already know the answer to that. Why is 98 of people cooperate?
B
Yes. Because they don't. But then, then maybe because you, you know, obviously you're very, you come off very confident. You're not, you're not soft to hear from somebody like you that did the things you do did. But then to hear those stories where I don't think many men are ready to look go I'm not getting a cell with a black guy. Not many people are going to say that out loud.
D
No, they do. And when you get down the road, you do.
B
But you have to. But people, new guys going in won't know that. And they make one mistake like that and they're done the rest of their. They're done the rest of their.
D
Because that dude's gonna. I mean. Because the thing about it is is a lot of people don' Is it when other race, especially the black race, they'll watch if the white boys don't take you and they stand off and they push you off, then they know he's open game. Right. So they're going to extort you, whatever. Everything else, they're going to take advantage of them. They're going to be like, oh, his people don't want them. But in the feds, we don't allow that to happen at all because we can't. If. If we show weakness. Now, if he's a sex offender, oh, you can have him. You do it. You can rape him, whatever. We'll pay you to do it. Like, we here punish all.
A
Like, so get them defenders and child. Child molesters.
D
Oh, dude, they get catch hell in there. It's so bad. It's so bad. They protect him.
A
I worked with a guy who had. Had been locked up for like seven years.
C
Jimmy, you gotta talking to the mic.
D
Oh, my bad.
A
I. I'd worked with a guy.
D
Welcome to the show.
A
Yeah, welcome to the show. We doing low voltage. And he had been locked up for seven years. And he was like, dude, everybody knows what you did within like 24 to 48 hours.
C
Hours. No, no.
D
Yeah, yeah, we usually. And the feds will know before you get on the compound because we run your thing. We have guards looking up. They'll tell you. So it's so funny. One time we're in a unit and the CEOs coming down the thing. She's taking her clipboard while she's walking through and fanning them. Fanning herself. Like she's hot. What it means is like, hey, guys, it's hot in here. He's hot. Like, she's already tipping him off. Like, guys hot. Because even CEOs don't want them dudes in there. Really? Because then, you know, they make it hard on the CEOs because they're telling on everything and dropping kites. And now they're making the CEOs work. Like we live there.
C
Like we're gonna do the ecosystem and they it up.
D
Yes, exactly.
B
Is it. It's that bad for them? No. For the sex off?
D
Well, yes and no. Like when I was on Oakdale, dude, I watch some ass whoopings out there like no other dude I'm talking about. It was bad. Now other places. No, not because we give them all the rooms, like close to the bathroom by the telephones. We don't get to watch tv. White boys are the hardest on their people. We're so hard on our people. We do not play no games with them. I. They'll tell you. Every race will tell you. White boys are the hardest. And we don't play with the whole chomo thing. We oust them all. We don't talk to them. We don't deal with them. They don't get to watch tv. They don't do nothing. Yeah, they're Their whole time is horrible. But like in the feds, whenever even like so a young dorky white kid has good paperwork, but he's just real dorky in the state. Most of the white boys are junkies out here. It's like that. And they'll just let them go to the wolfs dude. And let dudes like take them and stuff, make them their pitch. And the feds, we won't do that. We're like, no, no. So I'm usually the guy whenever people come on the compound. A lot of times I gotta go talk to him and you know, vet them. Come on, come on. Going in and you know, whatever. Here you need care package. Here's your stuff. Come on, we're gonna take it to a room. Especially when I see dudes like that I don't want to see him take advantage of. So I make sure I meet him at the door. What's up man? What you in here for? And I, I take care of them like so I, I'd made it down to the lowest custody I'd been in for probably six years. Years. And I was finally going to get to go to a camp and I.
B
Camps like a party, right? I mean it's.
D
Yeah, yeah, it's wide open. No fences are usually on them or nothing. So it's, you know, it's what I mean. I mean if you want to sneak your girl in, you can't.
B
I've heard.
D
Yeah, yeah. So anyways, I was getting put in it and come to find out this dude gave me fake paperwork. Paperwork is to make sure you're good. So I had to run them off the compound how to check them in. So I was like, hey bro, I was like, you know, I already got designated camp. So I went to him right at meal time, at four o' clock count. And I told him, I said, hey bro, listen, I'm gonna go down here to chow hall. I said, I'm gonna give you time to pack your up. I said, but if I come back, you know the consequences. I'm gonna have to smash you off the yard. Because it was. I'm the one that checked it. Said it was good to the white boys. So now I gotta stand on my 10 toes and I gotta take care of business. I come back. Luckily he checked himself. He did not tell. I could not believe it when I checked it. Every time I checked a white boy in, that was hot. That was trying to say, well, not dude, they told on me.
B
What? Tell us what hot means.
D
Hot means you have. Your paperwork's bad. It means you're saying snitch. Okay, hot.
C
Oh, okay.
D
Yeah. The car was walking through the thing. She was fanning herself.
B
That's letting you know this guy is a foreman or he's getting a reduced sentence.
D
Yeah, he's cooperated. He's hot. Because the reason why we check paperwork in prison is because you want to make sure that who's in your inner workings or around you, if their paperwork's good, if they're hot, you don't. You want to know, because you don't want somebody. We do a lot of stuff in there or we see a lot of stuff. Stuff that could get these guys really messed up. There's a lot of money in prison. A lot of money moving around. A lot of stuff. Operations have to work a certain way. You're not going to stop. You're not going to do nothing. So the, like, you know, like, rubber necking, you know, walking down the hallways, looking at people's rooms. Like, that's a. No, no. You don't look. You see something going on, turn your head. Because if somebody gets told or something goes down, guess what people are going to do? They're going to look over and be like, jason was looking. Yeah, Jason was walking by staring. So he must been the. That told. And it's like, whoa, bro. Like, so you know when you see.
B
Like.
D
As bad as you want to. And so even though my paperwork's good, I still have to be like, oh, I don't see anything. How's that thing up there? You know? So if we got somebody hot, like, you're not living with me. Like, if you got bad paperwork. Oh, bro, no, no. I tell CEO, like, he can't stay here. And they're like, vouch back. We'll lock you up. I said, that's totally fine, but he ain't living in here. And then I'd let a dude come in, and I'm like, hey, you got 24 hours. So, like, if he come in and he was like, doesn't clean or, you know, just certain little things, especially snores, I'd be like, hey, bro, you tomorrow morning, you got to go. And they're like, what do you want me to do? I'm like, I don't care. And if they came out, I'd put their outside the room. And I tell the COs, and they're like, we're gonna lock you up. You can't do this. Watch your back. And I'm like, yeah, well, guess what? I live here for how many more years? You don't I'm like, do what you got to do. I'm far from away from home so I don't care what the consequences are. I'm not living with this person. I live here, you don't.
B
So that's great. Nobody, nobody knows that's to going on. Go ahead.
C
Yeah, we gotta. Sorry I had to burp first, man.
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Do it.
B
Your show. Go ahead.
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Really?
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Yes. So today.
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So your wife is like, hey, I'm.
D
Not involved in this.
B
Another video. Let's hit a video.
C
What's going on in the comments?
B
I'm not worried about the comments.
C
I can't see.
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You want to knock either? Go.
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I'm good for now.
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I need another one.
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What about that one?
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Actually, yeah, grab me one. But they're in the freezer because I left them in my truck.
B
Go to that one with the cops. Down.
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You want water? You good?
B
Down. Right there. Watch, watch this. Watch this. Match this.
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All right.
B
Yeah. What's your reason to Stop. You ain't even got no reason to stopping them, bro.
C
He beating. They even got no reason to stop me.
B
Hey, yo, what the. You going hit him with the car. What the.
C
Yo.
D
Hell no.
B
Yo, Baltimore, yo. Come back this way, y'. All.
D
Is he still.
B
Oh my. Keeps going. It's going to keep going.
D
Dude, black people are hard on this, yo.
C
Getting broke.
B
That's his dumb ass.
D
My goodness.
B
Dumbass. That was a car crashing. You crashed his car.
C
You really crash him out, bro. Go ahead, dumbass.
B
I love the commentary.
C
Nobody trying to hit my mouth. Okay, hold on, hold on. Let him blow the screen up.
B
Baltimore, Maryland what did we. He is on suspended on leave.
D
Yeah, but dude, so look, okay, first.
C
Off, the guy was resisting. The guy was resisting arrest. Can you shoot him?
B
A car is deadly for force.
C
I know you can't run them over. No, that was probably something I've ever.
D
Seen in my life. Racist. Listen, how is he on administrated leaving not in handcuffs. Because if that was me doing. This is the problem with law enforcement.
B
And I, I agree with you.
D
If, if I did that or any of us in here did it, no badge, your ass would be sitting in the jail with no bond.
B
It's an aggravated assault.
D
You know what I'm saying? But then when he does, it's like, oh, we gotta investigate. What do you mean there's a video? There's enough there for probable cops.
C
That's what we brought up last time.
E
That's an AI video video that.
B
We have a guy in our comments all the time, Steve, and he says that he, he makes that argument. He calls us self proclaimed heroes with no duty to act. And he says any citizen would be in jail problem.
D
This is why law enforcement is having issue that they're having because of things like that. And it's like, well, hold on, like. So it's the same standards, like the whole thing, conservative liberal thing. Conservatives do one thing thing and get in trouble. Liberals can get away with everything. Like the whole antifa thing.
B
I did all these steroids for a reason, man.
D
But hear me out on this. So it goes back to like prison. So when you're in prison you can talk about stuff in there you can't talk about here. Black inmates love being at white prisons. White ran prisons and I like being at black ram ones because your people are harder on you and they power trip on you more than anything else. Okay, so white ran prisons are way stricter and way cleaner and they're way more organized. You get in the black one song I'm over like being in Baltimore. I mean, like.
B
Oh yeah, car coming out.
D
I'm saying, like you see highway high speed chase with inmates in there with the cos.
B
But to focus on the video. I think you're right. And. And society's complaint is any other citizen in a regular car is captured on video trying to run some. I mean, the girl that pulls a gun out. Yeah, we have a couple.
C
Cop.
B
A couple. A month ago in Buford, South Carolina, pulls a gun out on three kids, waves it around. He doesn't get arrested for a week or two.
D
Yeah.
B
Gets put on administrative leave and gets four felonies. This guy, same thing, does all this if that's a citizen.
D
But they justify like, well, we ended up doing something like. No, he should have been per. Walked right in and there's a video. Oh, no. Come on, come on with us. Take your badge off.
B
Probable cause.
C
Hold. No, I'm saying hold on.
B
Are you pointing at.
C
I'm pointing at him because we like to. We. We want to see be the beginning.
E
Oh, the beginning.
C
What happened?
D
It doesn't matter.
B
No, if he had a Only thing that changed if he has a gun. The only thing to change. If he doesn't. You can run him over with it. If he has a gun.
D
Yeah.
B
It doesn't make sense.
C
He committed a crime with a gun. He's got to commit a crime with a gun. He had a gun.
E
What if the dude just wanted to.
C
See how he is actually having a gun because of who he is?
B
Mine. I didn't say anything.
C
Possession while black.
B
I didn't say anything. Why are you saying that?
E
I think he definitely could have been like, hey, cop, can you drive next to me? I want to see how fast I'm running.
D
Hey, he said rapid acceleration for there's a problem.
B
And that of all places. You know what? In Florida you may get away with that. In Florida.
C
We're trying to run somebody.
D
Yeah, you got old Grady's house over there.
B
There's no body cams in county. We try to run them over. Brevard County. Waiting Ivy. The two loudest sheriffs in Florida. Prar county and oh yeah, no body cameras. Neither of them.
C
The black.
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Brevard and Polk. No body cameras.
D
I. I believe fhp.
B
Nobody.
D
I believe in it.
B
He's a my. He wants to pay the off while he's got.
D
It goes both ways. It works in the criminal. It works in the criminal thing and it works for the. The. The cops. It allows cops to do their jobs most. You're always Gonna have a small percentage of cops being bad cops. And you can greet it out. Yes, it helps criminals too.
A
Hold on.
C
I gotta stop the show.
E
That's good.
C
Lewis just put up something on the screen that says got some soda?
B
Question Is that you asking for a drink? Are you asking for a drink? There should be a Coke. It should be a Coke Zero in there. Y' all got some, Sir, Last week it was water. He asked for water for tissues.
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Tissues.
B
Last week it was tissues. You can talk, Lewis. You can just interrupt. You can say whatever you want.
C
Got some soda.
D
But listen to this. Hear me out on this, Mike. If I can turn that thing off. Was it any good? You can turn them off. What's any good?
C
You can't do it now.
B
It's a policy violation now. Yeah, it's all audit trail.
C
Your buddy.
B
What's more one.
D
I'm not giving him up.
C
Well. Well, then he's going to turn the camera off recently.
B
You can request in your own home. Unless it's like a lot I didn't request. He said, hold on, hold on. Let me turn this off. We talk about this.
C
A lot of agencies do have policy where if they go in a home.
B
Yes, your.
C
Your house is now public record. So they turn it off. Some agencies also say you had it.
D
On until I mentioned that we started talking about him. Him. So then he.
B
But let me tell you what happened. The investigation. The investigation had concluded to the point that there was no longer needed. And he was like, I don't care what he said.
D
He talk good about you. It's all great talk.
B
I paid him.
D
He's your okay.
B
I paid him.
C
No. You could argue the fact that if he's done talking about business with.
D
It was. It was personal talk. Yeah, he was personal talk.
C
Now he would eat. Now he would eat it. If you said. Said, hey, have a good night and you call a supervisor. So this guy just.
B
I just told. I just told him Dilks is a crook and he didn't record it.
D
Yeah, he's. But I should have done that.
C
We almost had too.
D
Listen, I should have done it and requested the recording.
B
So I can be like, you almost had it. We almost had it. I'm not talking about it ever again. That was the only time they got your house. They got your house wired anyway, man. Don't worry about it.
D
I love it. Because they could do the stories they hear inside that house. This gotta be.
C
Heather asked if you could cough away from me.
B
So you got to be you.
A
No, it's not contagious.
B
You're pretty much the equip. I look at it when I saw everything you do. You're, you're pretty much the, the exact opposite of what I do. You're the criminal. I said it. I'm gonna speak out, and I'm the cop that said it. I'm not, I'm not gonna be shut up anymore.
D
Let me, I'm gonna tell you why. Where I wanted to go with the podcast that I do and everything else is the main reason is I want to educate people. If you're going to choose this life and do the things, things, you need to understand it all do. I see too many people and kids. I did prison time with kids where they were so young that they did something that cost him a life sentence. And they're like, I didn't realize what I did. It was that serious. And it was going to get like, they have no clue for drugs, shooting everything. They just don't. They don't. They're so young to mind, and they see these rap videos and everything else. They don't realize what they did. It cost them a life sentence. They're like, I didn't think it would be life. I thought it would just be this. This. I was lied to. I was always told, first time you get in trouble, you're gonna get five years. Just five years. Five years. All I ever heard my whole life. So I'm like, five years. Like, sign me up. Like, I'm gonna make millions. We're making $4 million a month. And I'm like, five years. Let's get it, boys. That ain't nothing. I can sit on the toilet for five years, right? So. And then I get in there like, hey, life. And I'm like, life. The. You mean life? They told me five years. And they're like, no, no, Jason, this is life. Life. I'm like, 25 to life. And they're like, no, no, no, no, life. I'm like, I don't come home. They're like, no, hold on.
C
I gotta make a phone call. Be lying to me.
D
Well, no, that was the whole point. So I, I, I, I truly want to help people understand. Like, you know, you need to understand the side of the story because you.
B
Want a bat, you want an honorary badge, you're gonna.
A
No, he wants a, he wants to be a par.
B
And I'm joking. But I think I, I, I think when I said that about a podcast or you and I talking together, they need to hear it from somebody. They think I'm a government tyrannical. Monster. And they. It's good to hear it from somebody who did it and came out and said, that ain't for. That ain't for mostly anybody. Like, that ain't the place you want to be. You do not want to end up in there.
D
So many people go in. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, when I got that amount of time, I went back to my cell, dude, tears rolling in my eyes. I was just like, holy. This guy Chance was 15. 15. And it doesn't set in right away. And then you start thinking about it, you're like, oh, 15 years ain't that bad. And I'm thinking like, damn, a lot happened in 15 years. I'm like, holy.
C
Backwards.
D
I went backwards, and I'm like, damn. I got out of diapers. I went elementary. I'm like, a complete elementary. Went all the way to middle school. I went to juvenile prison. I came out, I'm like, that. I'm like, that's a long time. I'm like, my daughter's 5 years old. She'll be like, oh, this is gonna hurt. Yeah, this is gonna hurt. And the thing is, is there's nobody really out there explaining and really telling and wanting to work, because I've. I've gone to all the sheriffs and ask them, can I work with the juveniles? Can I work with them? And nobody will let me work with them, and nobody will even try for me to work with them, because I started out in juvenile. So I'm one of the examples of somebody that started out in juvenile prisoners prison, went to adult prison, like, did fed time, worked my way up to the top of the cartels, you know, ransom, the biggest pain clinics. I mean, I. I made 9 to 12 million dollars my last year at 25 years old.
C
Where did all that money go?
A
Lawyers.
B
I put a tracker on his car already. We're gonna find out.
C
So can you talk about that?
D
Yeah, I can talk about it.
C
All the money you made, does it go away when you get incarcerated?
B
You told me this story.
D
Yes. So I'm gonna explain how it usually works. So a lot of people don't understand. Easy money goes fast, so you blow a lot of it. But I was. It cost me about a quarter million dollars a month on average to live. So I would make 6 to $800,000 a month. My profit, I'd spend about 2 to $300,000 a month. Just living toys, everything. So I would have roughly 4 to $500,000 left over every month.
C
Oh, wow.
D
Yeah. So I didn't Spend.
C
You were living paycheck to paycheck.
D
Yes, it was.
C
And your line of work.
D
Yeah. So crazy. The thing is, what people got to realize is when. When you're into that, you're. You're forwarding your friends, your family, everybody, cops, payoffs. So the thing is, is when I got hit, what the feds don't take, your attorneys are going to take what your attorneys don't take, family and friends are going to get the rest of when you go to prison. And if you're smart and you're lucky enough to understand. I tell people how to hide money, where to hide it, what to do, don't trust nobody. You know that bird sanctuary down the road that's never going to be developed because it's the bird sanctuary and they're protected more than anything. Which one? The one in the Boslow.
A
It's really big with the redheaded woodpecker.
D
It's a swamp and it's really big and it's got like.
B
Yeah, just 10 streets out.
D
What? No, you go all the way to end the Oslo at the river.
B
Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
That sanctuary on both sides, that's never going to be developed. Okay? The federal buffer out there off I95. Never be developed. So you have to realize, I tell people all the time, federal property will never be developed. Parks and bird sanctuaries type, they'll never be developed. They're wetlands.
C
They're whatever money's buried.
D
Yeah. So I told them it's on their property. They can get it anytime. They just have to know where it's at. But I don't have it. So they have it. And they're. And look at me like, what? I'm like, yeah, it's on your property. It's not my property. You got it?
B
I already gave it to.
C
I. I know.
D
For real. I did. I mean. But the problem of it is, here's the thing about it, even if I had money left over, I can't do nothing with it. They breathing down my throat and they're always going to watch me and everything. They put how much? 1 3.9 million dollar judgment on me for life.
C
What's that mean?
D
A forfeiture? They put a $3.9 million for. Yeah.
B
So when do they collect? Collect that?
D
Whatever they want.
C
Hold on, what's that mean?
E
They could take his money.
B
It's like a lien. The government put a lien on them.
A
So basically, anything that they. They.
D
Anytime they want, they can just come in.
A
Criminal gains. You can take your whole Everything.
D
They can take anything they want at any time, any minute they want.
C
Do they use it for when you're being bad?
D
No, no, no. So if they just want to come and say, oh, he's got a house. Let me take this is one of.
A
The reasons why I have issues with. With the way law enforcement. Enforcement gets used.
D
So.
C
Hold on, law enforcement dog.
D
I didn't.
A
Yeah, but who comes and takes that?
D
I didn't fraud nobody.
A
Marshalls. Marshalls, Exactly.
D
I didn't fraud nobody. I'm a drug case. And. And they got me. Like, I. I done stole a bunch of money from people.
B
Whoa.
C
I did not know that they could put a lien on you.
D
Put an amount on beds.
B
Yeah, they put an amount on.
C
So the most they can take from you ever is 3.9 million.
D
No, 4.1.
C
4.1.
D
Right at 4.1.
C
That's the most they can ever take. Once they take that. They can't.
B
Have they started. Have they taken it? They do, yeah.
D
They started taking. I mean, I. I had to deduct all the money they took from my case and, you know, all kinds of, like, I just. My girl let the house go back to the bank, and they. They took that money. They. I pay them 25 every month.
C
We're talking a couple years it's gonna take.
D
But.
B
As long is that kind of like a. Like a repo. As long as you're paying, you're good.
D
I'm hoping. I don't know.
C
All right. Ja says your boy. Ja. Jimmy. Yeah, says I have been in the chat fighting for the boys at Jen Moxie is a hater. Bot.
B
She's here every week.
D
I love Jen. Where's Jen at?
B
She's here.
D
We always gotta have somebody in here that's.
E
She started getting worked up.
A
Yeah, but I mean.
D
Well, I mean, I just wanted to see her. Adam's apple looked like she had one in her picture. No, click on her picture. I swear to you. Look at that.
B
Now, I don't think you can.
D
I don't think but that you had it blowed up. You just had it blowed up a minute ago. Don't.
A
Don't tell him to do anything.
D
You flew it up just a minute ago. But I'll tell you, dude, she got.
C
A big skynet trying to.
D
In the middle of a. Her neck is pretty big. All right.
B
Another video. Video. Yeah. What do we got? I don't know what that one is.
D
I'll hit it. Hit it.
B
Hit that right there.
D
No, no, grocery cart.
B
That's bad.
D
Oh, I've seen this one.
C
Well, just because.
D
Get a two stamps.
B
Yeah.
D
She's so smart. Her T is right there.
B
It's a short term plan.
C
Oh, just get your shot.
D
Hold up.
A
Get your shot.
C
I don't think you can shoot someone from stealing.
A
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me, let me.
B
I'm a little confused though. Why did she just walk away? Why doesn't lady just wheel her card away?
A
Yeah, that.
B
Well, that's a strange video.
A
First of all, that's somebody who's never.
C
Dealt with, so problem.
D
That's California probably.
C
You're just glaring at me. All right, so I used to bounce at a rap club, okay, When I was in college, before I was. Before I was a cop, I made the most.
D
There was a height limit on that.
C
Okay, who said that?
B
The tallest guy here. The tallest guy here.
C
I used to walk the door.
D
I wasn't a big guy.
C
So I'm calling it a rap club just because you guys can know what I. What I'm talking about, right? So there was only one demographic that.
B
Copville does not associate with this conversation.
C
And I used to bounce, but I was a smaller bouncer, but I had like military combatives experience. So like we could use you for minimum wage. What do you want to. I was like, I don't know.
D
They're like, we'll put you at the minimum wage.
C
Oh yeah, it's bouncing, bro. So I would work the door, right?
D
And everybody would get in.
C
In that culture, people wanted to be up front. The lines would be down the block. This was like the premier hip hop, pop, person, person club. So they would walk up, I'd know them by hand, they'd slip me $300. They'd look cool in front of everybody. I'd pocket that money.
D
That's the system.
C
That's how it worked. I made. That's how I made all my money, is people trying to. Dirty bouncer, dirty bouncer leads to so dirty cop. But they used to call the big back women that used to fight and tear weebs out of each other's heads. They used to call like, no, you.
A
Can'T say no, no, no, no, no.
C
That's what they call them.
B
We don't. We do not.
A
We don't have enough melanation.
E
Yeah, there's a couple things that call each other. You can't.
B
Yeah, you can't say those.
A
Yeah, like we got sponsors. I got sponsors.
B
You kind of did.
C
I didn't say it.
B
All right, all right, all right. Next video, we're on To Cincinnati. I don't know what that. That one, the next one and keep going.
D
Hit it. Is that it?
A
Looks like Darth in your pockets.
B
You're going to poke me. Harmony, this is great. This is Florida.
D
Oh, thank you. Oh, more of them keep coming. She asked me where I keep my gun, though. Why you talk like that? Why? That's actually why you walk like that.
B
Might be.
D
She asked me where I keep my.
B
Though I don't talk about that.
D
The all too fat. She asked me where I keep my blood, though. Gymnastics.
B
Stand up and walk.
D
If you don't get up in the.
B
Room, you're going to go to jail.
D
Hello, mother. Hey.
B
Hi.
D
How you doing? It's weird.
B
On the.
D
Walmart at 2am Open up her mouth. Find out while you're waiting.
B
Tell them in the cr. Cr.
D
Crazy.
C
What is he saying?
B
I have no idea.
C
Hey. Hi.
F
How you doing?
D
Because I just fell. You better not say I hit anybody. I collapsed. Can you answer that question? Why did my parents have to. We could have had an adult conversation before.
C
Oh, you could have been a gangster.
A
Nobody wants to hear it.
B
Which cop got her phone numbers? Wanted to know who. Who. Who wrote it down. That's what they did.
C
Do they do that?
B
Yeah. There's guys. I know some people that aren't at work right now because of that kind of stuff, but.
D
Oh, I'd be the dirtiest one.
B
That's why you're not.
D
Dude. I would be a cop just to be like, what is it going to take to get out of this? Oh, you already know.
F
Jesus.
C
He leave his body cam on?
D
Yeah. But I wouldn't do. I'd be like, listen.
B
And that's what they do. And that's why they get fired and put on. That's why guys like you call it.
A
Crooked and all that kind of smash the people. People could fix her.
B
I was thinking she was probably an ER nurse. That's usually the behavior of those type of women.
D
You were married to one.
B
Yeah. She wasn't like that. No. Remove.
D
What's it. Why is it that nurses are so crazy?
B
I have no idea. But it's.
E
It's.
B
It's.
D
No, it's for real. They're the highest cheating.
B
Yep.
D
And they're known for being. They say because of the hostile work or all the hours. I'm like, that's nothing to do with it.
B
I don't know what it is. And why do cops lose their marriages and pension over it every. Every day?
D
Because you work around them so much. Yeah.
B
And if they don't you know.
A
We can only. We can only. We can only alienate so much of the democratic.
B
No, it's true. And there's the, you know, there's old first responder nurse. I've seen it 25 times in my career. Guys throw their marriage away for that atmosphere. But it is, it's.
D
It's a.
B
It's a. Like, it happens a lot and they're crazy. I don't know if they're attracted to it.
A
Can I, Can I be. I know we're supposed to be fun.
B
No, you can be unfun.
D
Okay.
B
You could be like Mike.
C
When he just glared at me, he went like this.
B
Because I heard you started. I heard that. I heard that.
D
But you spend more time. But you probably spend more time around them than their husbands do because they work so much.
A
But, but do you think that this. I mean, it's just a response to the stress? Do you think it's just a human response?
C
Can't blame affairs on response to stress.
D
Wait, hold on.
B
God damn it. I lost this poker hand. I'm going to bang some chick in the parking lot. No, it is a response. It is partial. Yes, I think, I think, I think. Here's, here's what I think it is. Men. Men trauma. Men trauma bond over crap. Bad called. Men and women trauma bond in the ER over the same thing. And then they have sex and it's not supposed to happen. But that is the. Here's the problem right out of the rip. You can walk up to a nurse and say the most vulgar. She's not gonna report you. She's not going to care. She's heard it all. And it's the same with female cops. There is an instant the couth is gone from that conversation. Based on your profession, you're allowed to say whatever you want. Pretty much. And that's how. What is? When that happens between the opposite sex, all the other instincts kick in. They end up having an affair.
D
Yeah.
B
The problem is the accessibility and the ease of conversation where if you just walk up to a random trick. Unless it's her, you walk to a random chicken. Publix. You're never going to start with some vulgar dumb that cops say. Yeah, but cops can walk up to a nurse, Cops can walk up to another female cop, and you can pretty much say the same you would say in front of.
D
Yeah, because in order to be a cop, especially for a female, you got to have some thick skin.
B
Yes.
D
Because I don't know what it is. Chicks like that. Yeah, but hold on.
B
Hold on.
D
But here's the thing about it is I don't know what's going on in New County. Have you seen the quality of the chicks that they're hiring? Oh, my God, they're hot. Smoking. You can ask her. I told her to one. I was like, listen, I was like, what's it going to take to get arrested by you? I've never been arrested by a hot chick. Will you slam me on the ground and beat me up? Like be a badge of honor to be like.
B
And she choked on his toa.
A
Dude.
C
Dude is getting education.
D
Holy.
A
You Louis 23. 23. Dude has never been around anything like.
B
This in his life. I can't believe he comes back.
A
I, I, I.
B
Every day I look and I'm like, I hope he doesn't pull up. I think he's not going to pull up today. You're doing great.
A
You are.
B
You are. He's doing good.
C
Can I have a suit?
A
I love how he put that up. And I looked at him and I went like this.
B
I thought he was getting ready to send in the comments, responding to somebody. I thought of the show.
A
I looked at him just like this.
B
And I went, all right, next video. What we got? I don't even remember all of them. He said, you can fix the one in the next. That black SUV one. What is that? I'm intrigued because I don't remember what it is.
A
Oh, yeah, she's using the fourth.
C
It is a day.
A
Pulls out the fourth lightning.
C
The.
D
It's hilarious.
B
But you know what's funny? You could punch her in the face, and it's justified. And you do the taser.
D
He shouldn't done nothing to her. She was put no threat.
B
She was aggressively approaching the police officer. Right. You could run her over with a car.
C
What I'm saying is, the real question is, can we plug it?
B
I was going to say, no, you can't shoot her.
E
What I'm saying is you didn't say shooting her.
B
Taser and, like, strikes are in the same level. Nobody says anything.
D
Hold on.
B
That was a man.
A
She's using the force.
B
Okay?
A
I'm using force lightning.
B
I. My meme said when use of force. I made a meme out of it and said, when use of force meets the force. And this is a But I mean.
D
Back in the day, what would oldtimer be like? You better stop for? He would have pulled out, pulled out the.
A
The L handle.
B
She wouldn't even go to jail.
D
He would have kicked her back, like, go stupid. So that's Why? I said cop stuff's gotten so crazy because of the politics, I feel like. And it's got it. It's like shooting, tasing and. And nothing. It's. It's one or the other. It's like I shot him or I didn't do anything at all.
C
Sometimes, man, like. All right, all right. I'm gonna go liberal. Since you went maga Mic.
B
Well, you went way maga a little while ago.
C
All I'm saying is that's somebody's mom. That's somebody's grandma. Clearly. Hey, clearly. I'm being dead serious. Clearly she's mentally ill or she's got something going on. Throwing those.
B
The guy in the back of the car trying to hang himself. Did you hit him with 37 elbows?
C
But that.
B
I didn't do that.
D
You would have.
C
No, but this lady clearly is going through something. And I don't think putting hands going.
B
Through 70, 000 pulses per second, which is going through that.
C
Liberal for a second. That's somebody's mom or grandma.
D
But I'm saying. You watch the old cop videos. They would have handled it totally different back. Just restrain him like, hey, ma', am, stop. They spun around and be like, stop.
B
So I agree. So that.
D
When I was joking.
C
No, you could you.
B
I don't know that. Do you think the taser really needed to be.
D
No, I don't think anything. Okay. What's no distraction?
C
We know the origin story. Story.
B
No.
C
Okay.
D
Jesus Christ. Just saying.
A
Oh, my God. Oh, my.
B
That was a female cop. There would have probably been that.
A
That black teaser that goes poes.
F
All right.
B
Another video. Lois, do it up. It's your show.
A
We just live here. You said it was his show.
B
Yes. There's only a few left.
A
One on top, right?
D
No, left. All the way to the left.
B
We already did that.
D
No, under it. Under it. We haven't did that one.
B
This might be your alley. What happened? Yeah. Watch this wire.
D
Yo, man, are you good?
B
Fire doesn't look good.
D
You're on fire, Ricky.
B
So I've never seen stop, drop and roll applied in the field. This is the first time I've seen it.
D
Yeah, man.
F
Bobby.
D
There you go. Yeah. Roll, roll, roll. Holy.
B
Now, I would like to point out. Okay. All right. He was aggressively charging the offer officers on fire.
A
He's like the human torch.
B
He could have killed.
C
He could have killed.
B
You should have gave him some distraction.
C
Resisting. When they said, hey, man, stop moving.
D
And he did it. I'm surprised they didn't kill him.
C
But here. Here's the thing like.
A
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. You got CO2. You're blasted in this guy's face.
C
You guys didn't even finish the video.
B
They were like add it back.
C
They were like.
F
You want to broadcast that we fire extinguish them.
B
What happened?
A
Check the reflash watch.
D
Yo man, are you good?
F
We got fire on the way.
E
Just don't move.
B
Okay. Fire going to do. He doesn't out no more fire.
D
Do you realize how bad that is at fire signature. So a buddy of mine passed out in the back of his truck and he had a fire extinguisher on his jeep. So I took it out and I sprayed him. I didn't realize that takes the oxygen out and they he was suffering. That's how it puts out the fire. I Dude, listen. I. I like smothered anyway I didn't know it took the ox drag him out. We had to drag him out and almost do cpr. He got and he couldn't get so bad.
C
It takes the oxygen out of his lungs too.
D
Not they look out of the air everything. And dude, we almost killed him over.
C
Those cops just killed that guy.
B
Yeah, aggressive around. We just fire extinguish tetrahed him to death.
F
I just.
D
Dude, he did it. You see him?
B
He stopped and then he did it again.
D
It was like bro, you.
B
I like the question. I like the question. Hey, dude, you okay?
C
They extinguished him.
A
We got fire on the way.
C
They extinguished him and then they were like. So it's like well hey, hey, hey, hey.
A
They got there before fire did.
B
Second responders, man.
C
Hey, are you okay?
B
No, it's just on fire, dude.
C
And he can't breathe.
A
Yeah, fly through the air is not good.
B
All right, another one. We got any left?
D
Dude, I can find better videos than these.
B
No, we can't do that.
C
We can't use yours.
B
Yeah, you got a video on your phone.
A
We can't actually I got one from Jimmy Watson.
E
It we saw that one.
D
Yeah, we've seen all these.
A
No, no, no.
B
The top right is a food stamp threat.
E
The top far right.
B
Yeah, that one.
D
Looting the stores tomorrow because I was stealing before. Now it's full blown theft because what.
A
The you mean no food fams?
C
Y' all was clutching y' all purses before.
B
This going to be the time that.
C
You need to clutch them.
D
Y' all was doing that all that long time more. Y' all should have start taking from.
B
The mother corporations a long time ago. Y' all just didn't have that your mother bones. Get out There and get in the.
D
Mother feel like I told you.
A
That's.
B
That's good.
D
It's hard to explain how viral all of this has gone in the last.
B
Few days, but it appears a large.
D
We try.
C
We tried bringing this to Yalls attention that this was going to be a problem, but because come Saturday morning, y' all are gonna see tomorrow's just usually.
B
Hits on the first.
D
Oh, no, no. It's going down.
A
It's starting tomorrow.
C
What's your take on. We've all talked about it.
D
I want to get in line. I mean it. If they're gonna get it for free.
A
Open carry, man.
D
Strap on the tacky. No, I mean, the whole point of this is. Is that they're trying to bait people to do it. Most of the people that speak out on this are not the ones that are going to do it. They want everybody else to do it so they can be like, oh, these got them. You know what I'm saying? Like, most of the people that talk to you are usually the ones that don't do it. It's like the loudest person in. In the room usually is the softest.
B
I think it's gonna be ugly.
D
No, it's gonna be ugly. I know, but. But I'm saying these videos, they're doing it.
B
They said. She said she steals already.
D
Yeah, but they're not stealing on the level.
B
Like, organized stealing now.
E
Yeah.
C
She was like, I already steal. I was like, no way, sister.
A
You.
B
You better stop drinking.
D
What?
B
She looked like a.
D
A thief.
B
Oh, my God.
C
She gave off thief vibes.
A
She was.
D
So. I don't think it's going to be as bad as people think it is here. Like in the state of Florida, it's your. I don't think it's going to be as bad. Don't get me wrong. Now you give it a couple days and they start starving because they don't want to go get food or do nothing else, and the family wants nothing to do with them, then it's gonna start getting ugly.
C
I took on my sunglasses. I can now see.
B
I see that.
C
I can see where my conversation's going to.
B
Yeah, I see it. I don't know we have any more.
C
We got one up there twice.
B
Hit that one.
D
I don't think Misha Banks, who you see in this video arresting Kagal, says her training kicked in in those moments when she saw. Spotted the suspect. You don't realize when. When it actually happens in person. You don't know how to prepare for that. So, yes, I did go into tunnel vision. And all of my skills, everything that I've learned just came as one. And that's when, officer, there's the handcuffs.
B
Seeing this video arresting Kegel says her.
D
Training on the ground.
B
Her training kicked in. Oh, she's got a woman on the ground completely compliant, and she can't handle cover. And she gets on the news and said that her training kicked in.
C
How this make the news?
B
God.
C
Say, what's funny is that wasn't me. That was you. I wasn't even thinking that.
B
How does that.
D
That's.
B
I mean, but that goes back to my recruiting video from the very first video. When you attract a certain caliber of person who is not in this job for the right reasons, that is put on the news as good. Like, my training kicked in. Compliant.
C
Oh, they're. They're giving her.
B
And she's telling them that her training kicked in. She dropped her hand.
C
It must have been a high profile case or something.
B
No, it was like, dude, you can remove it.
C
Why do they think they featured her over any other cop? Is there a reason why.
A
Hey, hey, hey. Black Nissan Ultima right at the beginning.
C
All right, Tyler, what were you gonna say? Hopefully it's not racist.
B
No, it's not.
E
It's funny that she didn't even know enough to know that she performed poorly.
C
Yeah, one.
B
That's my point.
E
And then the other thing is, she's like, how do you even prepare for that?
F
It's like.
B
Well, she said she got tunnel. She had tunnel vision.
D
Yeah.
B
Handcuffing a cooperative person on the ground, not resisting.
D
She wasn't smart enough to do that. Somebody told her what to say.
F
We.
A
We had a conversation with a guy that was in three officer involved shootings, one of which where he was shot in the neck.
C
In the neck. In the neck.
A
And he was. And I'm over here asking him, like, hey, man, when you were going through this, like, what did you see? What did you hear? What do you remember? And he's like, yeah, I saw this. And this is over here. Like, she's in the.
B
Okay, we're using all the words tonight. Yeah, we got an outro song request.
C
Yeah, I saw it. We're bringing it back from.
D
Bringing it back.
B
All right, all right. I love it.
C
It's like, automated.
B
Yes.
D
Why do you think they're doing.
B
Why do you think.
D
What's the reason why they're. They're pushing this?
B
I think it's time.
C
Civil unrest.
A
Yes, absolutely.
B
You think this is national police civil unrest.
D
You think they're pushing It. Because of what's going on.
B
Yes.
C
What's going on.
D
I want you to think about what they're taking out of the spotlight that's been airing the last couple weeks or month. And they knew it's coming out. And what just came out two days days ago.
A
I mean, remember I told you. Wait, but hold on.
D
What? Just what, just what's. Remember I told you at the beginning they do the wagon, the dogtail.
A
Yeah.
D
And they have something else going on and people are like. Now I know the real reason is.
C
That'S why the news exists.
D
Something's going on in the news. Have you noticed what's been going on? What they just uncovered with the Biden administration?
C
No.
D
Oh, yeah.
A
So I do know.
D
Go ahead and say it.
A
Oh, they, they basically said that all of his auto pins stuff, all of his auto pen.
D
Pardon and void.
B
Yeah.
A
Auto pen preemptive pardons voided and they for sale.
C
Yeah.
D
Yeah. Because they sold. And then, then the attorney, the guy to his campaign was paid $4 million and said that if he won, which was a guaranteed to get additional 4 more million to make it happen. And he said this is a guaranteed win.
B
The only one he didn't, he signed himself is his son.
D
Yes. So all this stuff is coming out a light of how corrupted his campaign was and all the auto pens and everything else coming on. Well, guess what? The best way to keep this out of the spotlight, have riots and all this stuff go down. So guess what they do? They don't pay attention to what's going on. They have to focus on everything else.
B
The government shuts up so they can work riots.
D
They knew it was all coming because they all began to think now all the videos are getting leaked and they guess what's going to happen now? They got leaked today. Most of them got leaked today and yesterday. Yesterday. What's gonna happen in two days?
A
This is, this is the.
D
Like, what the hell? I mean, come on.
A
Dude is like Alex Jones of the freaking.
B
That's where he said he gets all his news.
D
I watch all of them. I watch. I, I watch all the podcasts.
A
All of them?
D
Yes, all of them.
C
He's like jocko.
D
I probably do. I do probably four hours or better a day. When I'm working. Yeah, when I'm working. That's when I got my thing and I'm listening to all of it. It. Because when I was in prison, I did my time in prison listening to Charlie Kirk and everybody else. Dan Bongino, the whole everything. So I've been listening to them for a long time. That's why Charlie Kirk thing hit me pretty hard because, I mean, at the end of the day, Charlie Kirk was really. He was probably the most probably influential person of all times right now. He's bigger than Trump and everybody. Charlie Kirk is bigger than Trump because.
B
He doesn't have the. Trump has around.
D
Yes. He doesn't have the. And he doesn't have the show. He's actually. Actually a God fearing guy that lived by the Bible, did what he was supposed to do, started a family and preached what he did. He was actually that guy. You think about it, Charlie Kirk. Look at the. He got more. Trump won't even get this if he died tomorrow.
C
You're the Charlie Kirk to my Trump.
A
That makes me what, the shooter on the road?
C
Funny.
B
And the flag's up there. I. I put that stuff together I'm wearing for Charlie Kirk and I donate all the proceeds from those sales to the Turning Point Foundation. So that one ready to roll? That song.
C
Are we done? We've had a lot here. We've had a long.
B
Nobody realizes you had a long day. You stay. A lot of people drive.
C
I've produced four podcasts today, so.
B
Yeah, he's mad. The whole time he did mine, I was not mad.
C
What are you talking about?
E
Did you get any soda when you did?
C
Mike, can I have a soda?
A
Hey, Donut, when are you gonna have me. Me on the podcast? You're like, too soon, Jimmy.
D
I'll watch your podcast.
A
Let me.
C
Come on, dude. Donut. Yeah. Oh, Justin.
F
Yeah.
D
Yeah, Justin's the man.
B
You got a good drive, you know, Used to drive.
A
Yeah, yeah, I'm used to.
D
Listen. He seems like we're watching it live. We.
C
We're cooking comments. Yeah. Wait, we're back.
B
All right.
C
Oh, we're back.
B
We're back.
C
Sorry for that.
A
It was Lewis's fault.
C
No, we could see some nods out in the parking lot.
B
The feds were coming.
C
We had to cut everything.
B
You're used to that, right? When they cut the power and stuff? Yeah.
D
We need to talk.
A
Why would they cut the power, man? They're animals.
D
We'll be on the next. No, no, no, no. That's a home story.
B
We'll talk about that.
C
Enfold by sense sensitive fail always one.
D
Step ahead of the feds. I thought they were the best.
C
Yeah, they don't have.
B
They still have to play by the rules, man. You didn't.
D
Damn. Yeah, I know.
C
Let it unfold unfold you.
B
Let me go back.
D
All right, hold on.
A
It's Speaker, I was gonna.
D
Mike, what do you think's gonna happen if they start doing that here in Florida with Ron DeSantis and everybody?
B
What do you mean?
D
What do you think the sheriffs and the cops are going to do if they start stealing? You think they're going to put deputies at all the places?
B
No, I think to bring the turtle. Bring the national. I think the Santa. The National Guard.
D
But why isn't our sheriff. Why, why is our sheriff doesn't stick up for the conservatives. If he's. I, I don't understand. Like, he, I feel like he's dropping.
B
Here's my problem. Here's my problem.
D
I feel like he's dropping the ball.
B
Here's where you're. Here's where your conspiracy theory goes further. If I knew. If you knew 40 million people might riot tomorrow, do you think you would have guys out ready and already start preparing?
D
Yes.
B
There's nothing going on.
D
That's what I'm saying.
B
Like, nothing is going on.
D
Hold on. If this is January Sixers or the Proud Boys, whatever the would be, it.
B
Would be under surveillance, guns pointed out. Yes.
D
You'd be a star. By having sitting there, you would.
B
They would be. Every video that we just saw of, of that would be called domestic terrorism. And they would all be arrested.
D
Yes.
B
But nobody's in trouble. Nobody's preparing. No cops.
D
Why isn't our, why isn't our sheriff doing it? Why isn't he talking, going on social media say, hey guys, we're gonna have deputies and we're gonna bust their heads.
B
That runs our county.
D
Like, I just don't understand. Like, why is he not making videos going, hey guys, you do this, we're gonna have Debbies. Everyone, we're gonna rest.
B
He's a Democrat. He voted for Obama both times. He's a Democrat. I know he did. He's not, he's not strong. You're right. He's putting up. We got a new forklift operator in the jail. Some inmate got his forklift license. He should be like you, looting my county. You start. You have. The United States has been put on notice on social media by thousands of people. We are going to steal loot and do whatever we want to get food. Nobody's doing anything about it. There's no preparation. There's no foresight. It's of just kind gonna happen. Just gonna happen. And it's not like a, it's not like a storm that sneaks up on.
D
You or, or, you know what everybody says. What does it got to do with you And I'm like, when my grocery prices go up because everybody. What about, you can't drive in town?
B
They start blocking intersections.
A
I gotta go to the store with body armor and a.
D
Well, Ron DeSantis already said you block the road and get run over, so I want to go get some. Just saying. I get a free body every chance I get.
C
Can we run them over?
A
Can we run them?
B
Cowville talking the most and has barely any clothes on. This guy's another level.
D
He's in a room with a bunch of guys trying to get necky. You know what that means, guys?
A
Yeah. Who is.
D
Who's Frank?
B
I have no idea.
A
I don't know, man. He doesn't like any of us. I don't care.
D
How much longer is he going for on this?
C
Frank the Tank. Frank the Tank.
B
Drink, brother. Are we done? What are we doing?
C
At least play this out.
A
Yeah, I got. I got a request, too.
B
I gotta put some clothes back on.
C
At least insult me.
D
Me?
F
Yeah, man.
A
Don't.
C
Can't leave me out.
B
Oh, you're easy. Yeah.
A
Short little hobbit.
B
Well, Jason, I appreciate it. Remember, if you enjoy Jason the Criminal, Wednesday at noon on the Cobbill Locked up podcast. Jason and I talk for about a little over an hour, bro. We come. Yeah, I'll do that. I covered the beginning. There'll be a second, maybe a third episode. But how does anybody find you? Jason?
D
Instagram and Tick Tock. Only it's ate up. J.
B
The number eight.
D
Yeah, number eight up. J.
B
A Y. Oh, we got our quasi producer. We got the sound playing.
C
My bad.
B
My bad. Finish.
D
No, they're saying it's on Tick Tock and Instagram's only two things I focus on right now. So you can go there and see all my content.
B
Have your own podcast.
D
Yeah, I got Tinto's podcast. Also, one thing. If you want to learn how to know if you're under surveillance, find out all that stuff I teach you, all the criminals stuff. Now, if you want to learn to be a cop, you go to Copville. He'll teach you how to crooked cop.
B
Right? Crooked cop.
D
Shoot. You ever could.
B
You ever prove I was crooked?
D
No. Not once.
B
That make you mad?
D
No.
B
Okay, good.
D
No, no, no, no, no. Not that you're crooked at all. You know what made me mad? I couldn't find out if you were the one that was after me. That's what pissed me off, because everybody kept pointing the finger at you, and I'm like, but I can't find. Find out. I've lost A few nights of sleep. Just a few. Not many. I'm not going to give you that much.
B
All right, all right, all right.
D
That's it.
B
Lewis, any words of wisdom before we go?
C
I just insulted that fat dude. Mystery Parish.
B
That's okay, Lewis. Anything.
D
Don't insult him.
B
How would you rate the. You think the show went okay?
F
I'd say it's decent.
C
Hey, man, you're working.
B
How about if we get you water and soda? Will that help the show?
F
Yes.
C
Yes.
B
All right, guys, we'll be live again Monday morning, right? Is that our next show?
D
I can't. Yeah.
B
Thursday.
D
Yep.
C
Monday.
B
Monday, 11am on the antiher broadcast. We appreciate tuning in. Jack will be. Yes, Jack Gersmeier will be us. Monday and Thursday next week. He's in town visiting from Milwaukee. And he's got a really good crazy story about how law enforcement will even turn their back on you if you get cancer. So Please turn in Monday, 11. We appreciate all your support.
D
Tyler, Anything?
A
Can we play music? It feels so dead.
B
Jimmy, anything?
A
I mean, I got. I. I'm in.
B
Good.
D
Jason, if you're going to be a cop, do it just for retirement.
B
There you go. Stop, stop. Stop harassing bad guys. We appreciate you guys.
D
Hey, all right. Later, guys.
A
Boys.
B
Welcome to the night.
C
Sa. It.
Episode Title: Ha! Got em!!
Date: October 31, 2025
Host(s): The Antihero Podcast Crew
This raucous and unfiltered episode of "The Night Shift" brings together ex-cops, ex-cons, and friends for a roller-coaster conversation spanning law enforcement, criminal life, prison tales, media conspiracies, and the realities of modern policing. Featuring recurring co-hosts Tyler (High Ordinance Apparel), Mike (ex-cop), Jimmy, and Jay (aka 8 up J, a self-described ex-criminal), plus guest Jim Hood of Elevated Silence, the crew blend shocking stories, industry gripes, and gallows humor for a uniquely raw take on “all truth.”
The episode is a unique mashup of dark humor, authenticity, raw confession, and crude banter—often irreverent, sometimes insightful, always edgy. The crew are equally at home swapping jailhouse horror stories, dissecting failed police policy, and riffing on viral cop videos or government conspiracies, keeping listeners alternately laughing, shocked, and riled up.
For listeners seeking sanitized takes on policing or criminal justice, "The Night Shift" is a wake-up call—a brutally candid window into the cop/criminal dichotomy and the messy gray areas between. The show is strongest when letting guests like Jay share their “professional criminal” perspective, challenging the myths of crime and punishment in America, and revealing just how much has changed (and how much hasn’t) on both sides of the law.
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