The Night Shift (11/13/2025): Trigger Fingers Turned To Twitter Fingers

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast – "The Night Shift: Trigger Fingers Turned To Twitter Fingers"

Date: November 14, 2025
Podcast: The Antihero Podcast
Episode: "The Night Shift: Trigger Fingers Turned To Twitter Fingers"
Audience: Veterans and First Responders

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Antihero Broadcast dives into a wild week of controversy, lawsuits, and internet skirmishes affecting veterans, law enforcement, and the hosts themselves. Against the backdrop of recent defamation claims and the challenges facing the vet/first responder community, the hosts and special guests break down the real-life impact of lawsuits, social media call-outs, and the ongoing culture clash between "the old ways" versus the modern, highly scrutinized world of policing and military service. Expect a raw, lively, and darkly humorous roundtable discussion, punctuated with firsthand stories, legal analysis, audience engagement, and their classic ball-busting style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Upcoming Events & Community Building (05:57–07:33)

• The crew announces a family-oriented charity event at a brewery in St. Petersburg, FL (Nov 15).

  • "You'll come meet us. We'll be giving out stickers, encouraging people to help out the cause there. Great people that reached out to us. So come see us Saturday." — B (07:13)

• Lighthearted banter about some of the hosts drinking (or not) at the event, reinforcing the show's camaraderie and laid-back style.

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2. Jason "The Pig in the Plug" Vulturebeck: From Juvenile Prison to Criminal Mentor (07:33–10:55)

• Jason reflects on his time as a notorious juvenile inmate—recounting a notorious "shit-slinging" protest episode.
  • "They put me in this damn padded room... so about two months in, I was tired of it... I shit on the floor and threw it at them." — D (08:13)
• Jason describes juvenile prison as much worse than adult prison, citing staff cruelty and severe conditions.
• The cycle of recidivism: Jason was back in prison by age 30, following a few years of trying (and struggling) to "go straight".
  • "Juvenile prison is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Adult prison is nothing's cakewalk." — D (08:54–09:00)

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3. Lawsuit Drama, Defamation, and Internet Lawyering (11:03–17:44)

• Context: One host is being sued by a decorated Navy SEAL (implied as Robert O’Neill, though not named), over public claims regarding the Bin Laden raid and who "actually did it."

  • "My whole government name, like I was a serial killer." — A (11:22)
  • The lawsuit is full of “I love me” fluff, as the hosts joke about legal documents and their grandiose language.
  • The criminal guest’s take:
    • “Difference between me and you, you’re gonna play nice. I'd play dirty. I'd try to break him at the bank.” — D (12:33)
    • The futility and performativity of most defamation lawsuits, especially among public figures: "Defamation is the hardest case to win. It's almost an act of Congress to win. And only people like presidents and movie stars are the only ones that can win it." — D (17:06)
    • "You can't sue somebody that's broke." — D (14:08)

• The hosts roast “Instagram lawyers” spectating the drama and reflect on what makes a winnable defamation case (malice, provable damages, etc.).

  • "Everything was regurgitated. Information that was told, everything was regurgitated. Nobody...struck up a new theory." — B (14:40)

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4. Team's Attitude Toward Special Operations, Hero Culture, and Media Manipulation (15:28–16:49)

• A candid reflection on the sometimes toxic arrogance of ex-military elite forces and their effect on popular culture.
  • "They're all badasses. Do we respect them? Yes, we do...But you come pants on the same way." — D (15:28)
  • “You respect them for doing it, not them having to tell you or even show you more that they did.” — B (15:51)
• Hosts stress they do not question the courage or legacy of individuals, but they don’t believe “the raid went down the way he said it did.” — A (16:49)

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5. Legal and Tactical Realities of Proving the Bin Laden Raid Details (13:05–14:50, 28:09–31:37)

• Deep dives into how there's no way for anyone— military, government, or civilian— to legally prove who fired the specific fatal shot due to lack of public forensic evidence or official records.

  • “I would subpoena everybody. Everybody that was there. Let’s get them all on record.” — D (13:13)

• Analogies to criminal law: “If there’s a kilo of cocaine in the car and three of us, how do you prove which one did it?” — B (29:49)

• “They’re not going to release all the sensitive information for some dumbass podcast civil suit.” — C (31:28)

• Jury/juror reactions: “I want everybody not guilty...You have to have intent where you are on mic...to hurt my career, you can say whatever you want. My beliefs.” — D (32:32–33:03)

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6. Turn to Audience Q&A, New Shows, and Humor (20:07–25:31)

• New open-mic show announced, featuring "Good Cop, Bad Cop," Nick, and other familiar personalities.
• Joke about "getting under Mike’s skin" by telling him "you're going to prison real soon." — D (23:06)

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7. Breakdown of Use-of-Force Videos & Policing Tactics (47:25–74:43+)

• The crew reacts in real time to several police bodycam and viral action videos (note: these were shown on-screen, but the hosts describe and discuss throughout).
• Recurring debates:
  • When is deadly force justified? How do you assess risk to officers vs. the public?
  • Gun vs. taser vs. hands-on—what’s the ideal decision, and what’s realistic?
  • "If you train for your job as a police officer like you train for your TikTok videos, there’d probably be less lawsuits." — A (68:31)
• British/UK police praised for hands-on restraint tactics—“My dad always told me, UK cops are a lot tougher and better because they have to do the job.” — C (70:52)

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8. The Culture Shift in Policing: Old School vs. Modern (75:50–79:15; 109:02–113:44)

• Old-school cops were "tougher"—they’d beat your ass but not shoot you.
• Now, with cameras and stricter policies, many officers feel paralyzed or unmotivated, leading to softer policing and more crime.
  • “I wish I was a criminal today...They love chasing me. Yeah, but you know you're just mad because I didn't too.”— D (109:02–75:33)
• The criminal guest laments the loss of old-school, "hands-on" policing: "Cops today have more of a risk going to prison... 'cause they're unaliving themselves." — D (68:03)

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9. Whip-Round on Race, Compliance, and Policing Bias (91:03–97:15)

• Heavy discussion around how different communities and cultures interact with police, the role of compliance in use-of-force, and the tricky racial dynamics involved.
  • "If everybody complies, there are no police shootings." — B (93:31)
  • "Black people are taught to run. ... From all the times I’ve done in prison, I’ve been around them." — D (95:06)
  • In-depth (and spirited) exchanges about personal experience, IQ, and “reading the scene.”

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10. Legal Know-How & Officer Training (104:25–105:32)

• Discussion around open carry law confusion and the dangerous consequences of officers not knowing basic law.
  • "That’s my point is, cops now... If a cop can't determine basic trespassing or if you can have a camera out, you're going to trust that dude to make a decision to pull a gun out and win the shoot..." — B (104:42)

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11. Humorous Segments, Audience Participation, and Signature Moves (115:05–117:17)

• Lewis demonstrates his much-hyped Rubik’s Cube speed-solving skills live on the podcast (completes in ~11 seconds)
  • “That was witchcraft.” — A (116:46)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You gotta do what you gotta do." — D, on his notorious prison protest (07:48)
• "You can’t sue somebody that’s broke. What are you going to get?" — D (14:08)
• "If everybody complies, there’s no police shootings." — B (93:31)
• "If you train for your job as a police officer like you train for your TikTok videos, there’d probably be less lawsuits." — A (68:31)
• "You respect them for doing it, not them having to tell you or even show you more that they did." — B (15:51)
• "Defamation is the hardest case to win. It's almost an act of Congress to win." — D (17:06)
• "My beliefs and knowing that you’re intending line is two different things." — D (16:57)
• "My training experience, I can overcome that rock without shooting that guy." — B (63:35)
• "I’m just going to do a little prison time. I’m going to come home, like, why do I want to make it a life sentence?" — D (94:13)
• “You think I’d know the case law? … If I tell my family I’m coming home tonight, it’s not just about being on steroids and being yoked. It’s about having a brain…” — B (67:47)
• "If you could dodge a rock, you could dodge a ... " — A jokes, referencing 'Dodgeball' (64:05)
• “Lewis is the glue, man. He holds it together.” — B, on their producer during the Rubik's Cube segment (121:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:57 | Charity event plug | | 07:33 | Jason’s juvenile prison stories | | 11:03 | Lawsuit and social media drama | | 13:05 | “Who shot Bin Laden?” debate, legal proof, autopsy issues | | 15:28 | Special ops arrogance and humility | | 20:07 | Revamping the show, open mic plans | | 47:25 | Police video breakdowns start | | 58:20 | Deadly force: rock vs. knife, use-of-force debate | | 63:35 | How training and experience affect officer decisions | | 70:52 | UK police tactics and comparisons | | 75:50 | Old school vs. modern police culture | | 91:03 | Race, policing, compliance | | 104:25 | Cop legal knowledge and officer training failures | | 115:05 | Lewis’s Rubik’s Cube stunt | | 121:23 | Wrapping up, audience banter, military culture jokes |

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Tone & Language

• Tone: Raw, irreverent, unapologetic, often darkly funny and openly critical.
• Language: Blunt and colorful; reflects the lived reality of veterans, ex-cops, and “reformed” criminals—frequent references to bodily functions, street talk, and legal jargon, peppered with liberal use of "allegedly" and humorous euphemisms.
• Style: Highly conversational, with frequent ball-busting, inside references, and ongoing call-backs to prior episodes and “community” drama.

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Conclusion

This sprawling episode mixes rapid-fire banter, dense legal breakdowns, real-world crime tales, and the realities of life after the uniform. The show’s heart—despite its crude humor—is a sincere effort to confront the complex intersection of justice, fame, and the veteran/civilian divide in the age of Instagram and litigiousness. For listeners, you’ll leave with more empathy for those in the trenches, a lot of laughs, and maybe a bit more cynicism about official narratives and social media justice.

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For loyal listeners:
Skip the first 5 minutes (ads & warmup), and the last few (post-show banter). The rest is pure, unfiltered "Antihero"—rowdy, honest, and thoroughly unafraid to tackle the elephants in the room.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the night shift. It.

[B]

There we are. Here we are. Hello. Hello.

[C]

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[B]

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[C]

Oh yeah, suppressors.

[B]

You haven't made a whole reel about it. Yeah, suppressor.

[A]

Sorry.

[C]

Say 50 off your suppressor. Everything from 22s to 50 cows, they got it all. Small business feel, big business logistics. Jim's the man. I make up these, by the way.

[B]

It's really good. Except when you call silencer suppressor backwards.

[A]

We're gonna get hammered on that one.

[C]

Jim's the man. So go support them. Get yourself a can. Tell them we sent you. And we're back.

[B]

Is that it? Let's hit the last one. The event.

[C]

Oh yeah, the event.

[B]

The. The banner. The picture of all of us. The pretty picture. There it is. This weekend, Saturday, November 15th, we'll be at brewery there in St. Petersburg doing a charity event. Family oriented charity event. Yeah, like brewery but laid back. You'll come meet us. We'll be giving out stickers, encouraging people to help out the. The cause there. Great people that reached out to us. So come see us Saturday.

[A]

St. Pete.

[B]

I'm not drinking, but I'll be there. Jimmy will be drinking.

[A]

I will be drinking. I'm close to home on that one.

[C]

I can risk it.

[A]

I got a DD that night.

[B]

Let's introduce back again our in house guest over there. One half of the pig in the plug. The criminal, the mastermind, the drug trafficker, juvenile that threw at corrections people when he was a kid. Professional.

[D]

You gotta do what you gotta do.

[B]

Jason Vulturebeck. Yep, our episode went pretty hard back home.

[D]

Well, I. I'm surprised that somebody actually confirmed the throwing.

[B]

Yeah, that was for those who don't know. I. After I did my episode with Jason, one of my former co workers reached out and said I knew that piece of 20 years ago he threw on us inmates or us corrections guys smeared all over the walls and then told.

[D]

Him to clean it up.

[B]

Yeah, and then Jason confirmed that that actually happened.

[D]

Yeah, so give you a little background. They me up, dude. They put me in this damn padded room in a padded outfit. And they wouldn't even let me in Silence, dude. And one of the inmates told me, the only way you're gonna get out of here jack crazy or catch a charge. So about two months in, I was tired of it. I'm sitting there on the. And I'm like, you know what? These. They're laughing at me and wouldn't give me a privacy. So I on the floor and threw it at them. And then I covered everything and all the way to me. And then I had to get. Let's just say every one of them was. There was a shitty situation.

[B]

Well, you left a lasting impression on at least one of them. They reached out to me to confir.

[A]

Were the lasting smell.

[B]

You weren't rehabilitated there either because you're criminal.

[D]

No. I ended up going to two other juvenile prisons, catching charge at each one of them. I ended up timing out. People would never know that. I pretty much started prison time at 15 years old. And juvenile prison is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Adult prison is nothing's cakewalk. Juvenile is on a whole nother level. And they shut them all down because it's not just the inmates, the kids, the staff are horrible.

[B]

I can imagine.

[C]

Is there serious question? Seriously, it's gonna be really not a poop question.

[A]

It's not a poop question.

[C]

Well, is there less sodomy in juvenile prison? Please say yes. We're good.

[B]

It's worse.

[D]

You're good.

[C]

I. I take your silence as.

[B]

Oh, boy. So you spent. You spent your pretty much your teenage years in prison. All the high school, all high school got out and then what age did you go back?

[D]

30. I got in trouble with the feds at 26. It wasn't long after I got out. I was doing good.

[B]

So you only had like what, five, six years out? Seven. And then you got indicted.

[D]

Six years. Roughly about six years before it all started tumbling down. I mean, like I said, I. I got out and I was doing good. But the problem of it is doing good.

[B]

Yeah. You making. Making it back in the country with cocaine is doing good, right?

[D]

Well, I mean, for the first nine months, I was doing really good. I had a job. I was trying to do it.

[B]

That didn't work.

[D]

It didn't. Because. I mean, because you got to think is, I started late and everybody else is at the bars, new trucks, doing this, doing that. And I was Struggling. And I was just.

[B]

They're doing that thing called work.

[D]

Yeah, I was doing it, too, but $11 an hour. They've been doing it for a while. And I just started in the field, so I was at a beginner pay when they were there two years prior.

[B]

They gave yourself a raise.

[D]

Did I? Yeah, I passed them all up real quick. Yeah, Yeah, I passed them up, man. I gave people a few jobs.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You guys want to. So, the thumbnail.

[B]

Oh, I didn't even. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, the thumbnail.

[C]

Yeah, I like. I like to try and address the.

[B]

The.

[C]

The thumbnails at the beginning of the episode because we were making people wait till about 40 minutes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's a little misleading, but, you know, obviously, it's. It's been a big week for you and Jimmy. Everything separate. Yeah.

[A]

Dude. My whole government name, like I was a serial killer.

[D]

Settle down.

[B]

Not that big.

[A]

Well, look, man, not all of us have been through it like you.

[D]

Yeah, but mine said United States vers. Jason Cole voucher back.

[B]

Say that.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

Navy seal hero. American. Yeah.

[A]

One of the most decorated.

[C]

What's. What's War.

[A]

War veterans of our time.

[C]

Kennedy calm.

[A]

No, that's what the lawsuit said.

[C]

What did it say?

[A]

It. One of the most decorated combat veterans of our time.

[C]

I mean, you can't. If that's true. That's true. Like, war decorations. That's documented. But I thought it was something along the lines of, like, one of the most, like, baddest, hardest American.

[A]

That's Tim Kennedy.

[B]

I read it. All the fluff was in there.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, it read like a I love me book.

[B]

Well, it's like, I. Like I talked about this morning. When you write a search warrant as a cop, you put the I love me paragraph, which is like your, you know, five or six sentences about all the fluff, about all the cool things you did. The first, like, 19 pages of this thing are everything he did. Yeah.

[C]

And we were kind of briefing Jay here on what's going on, and he's like, the.

[B]

Is this dude.

[D]

It's impossible. It's not gonna happen. I mean, difference between me and you. You're gonna play nice. I'd play dirty. I'd try to break him at the bank.

[C]

I. I didn't say I was gonna play nice.

[A]

We don't want to give away any op sec.

[D]

Listen, here's the thing about it. Sad when the criminal knows more than these cops do about how. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, you sit in a cage dodging sodomy for years and years. There's not much else to do. While I was playing Xbox and go, you know, doing all that cool stuff, you were reading books.

[D]

Yeah, but. But, I mean, it took me two seconds to put in who unalived Miladon? Okay? Three names came up. Three different shots, three different stories. Well, three different stories. But here's the point of it all. I said, well, which one did the final thing? And they were like, nobody can tell. There was no autopsy. There was no this, no that. They said, not even the CIA or anybody can determin that. So it's like, okay, so how are you gonna sit here and sue somebody when there's nothing out there? And you know what I would love to do? I would subpoena everybody. Everybody that was there. Let's get them all on record. Let's. Let's have fun.

[A]

I. I want to talk to everybody that was on the objective that night in a body. I wanna.

[D]

I want to put them on our oath.

[A]

I want to go, okay, tell me what everything you did. Let's go.

[B]

It's never going there.

[A]

It's never gonna happen.

[B]

The.

[A]

The DOD is never gonna let us.

[C]

I love the Instagram lawyers, too. Yeah, Jay, I've been looking at. I've been scrolling through Instagram, and, man.

[A]

There'S tons of people like, you guys.

[C]

Are gonna pay that, know, civil suits more than anybody on Instagram.

[A]

Go ahead and give it. I mean, you.

[D]

So I'm gonna say right now, I've done a lot of hit pieces, and a lot of people try to sue me. And the funny thing about it is, you can't sue somebody that's broke. I mean, what are you gonna get? You're gonna spend tens of thousands, maybe a couple hundred thousand dollars for what? To get nothing. I mean, at the end of the day, it sounds like to me, it's just trying to get back in the spotlight. But it's a great challenge because there's, like, three factors that you have to prove, and the very first one is that there was intent or that you knew that you were lying. And that's impossible. I mean, he would have to have. Somebody's gonna have to have you on record saying, I knew I lied. I, I.

[B]

Good luck. I mean, everything was regurgitated. Information that was told, everything was regurgitated. Nobody. Nobody on this show, Brent Tyler, nobody struck up a new theory.

[A]

And I didn't even say anything.

[D]

I wish it was me.

[B]

It's great.

[D]

Advertisement. I mean, if you want to produce, I mean, you want to blow Somebody's podcast up or make them famous. I mean, this is the best way to do it.

[B]

Thanks. It's already helped. I mean, it has. It helped. And then what we're looking at is it's. But at the same time, now that we have a little bit of the. The lights back on us, now we show them what we're really doing, which is charities, nonprofit stuff, the stuff that really matters, where, you know, he's suing him to, you know, like we talked about this morning, to protect a vet community and all that. But you're willing to, like, try to.

[A]

Take food out of a guy's mouth or your sanctimonious. Goes about as far as a paper airplane.

[C]

Right. Look at that.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But here's the thing about. You have to understand is, are they badasses? They're all about asses. Do we respect them? Yes, we do. But when I was at that juvenile boot camp in Martin county, I'd say 60, 70% of them are ex Rangers and Navy Seals. They're the most arrogant people I've ever met in my life. Think they're above everybody else just because they were able to go through that test or something. But don't get me wrong, they're badasses. But you come pants on the same way.

[B]

Comes with a price. When you're around them, you can tell that they did. Yeah, you can tell they did it. And it. It should be. You respect them for doing it, not them having to tell you or even show you more that they did. It's cool. I think they're awesome for what they did. I think they're the most elite human beings on the earth, but have some humility with it.

[A]

Here's the thing. Like, here's one thing that I've. I've said and I've been pretty clear on, and I've been pretty consistent on. I'm pretty sure got. Rob was a guy you would want if you were in a gun fight. Yes, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure if you were in a gunfight, you'd be like, hey, Roberto's next. Me, I'm probably good to go.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

I think that he probably did a lot of great things for the United States, things that he's never talked about that we don't need to know. The amount of hits that he probably did when he was on the strike force, taking guys off the battlefield every night was probably fantastic. That said, I don't think the raid went down based on my training and experience, the way he said it did.

[B]

That's why you're being sued.

[D]

That's why.

[B]

You'Re being sued. So good luck.

[D]

But your beliefs.

[B]

I'll be here.

[D]

Yeah, but here's the thing about it is your beliefs and knowing that you're intending line is two different things.

[B]

Or you're intentionally trying to deprive somebody of money or the. Or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And. And he has. Listen, these guys are gonna have to prove that they did this in intent. If there's no intent, I mean, good luck. It's not gonna happen. I mean, you can sit there and say, oh, yo, all people, look it up. Just like I told them. What is the hardest thing to prove? Defamation is the hardest case to win. It's almost an act of Congress to win. And only people like presidents and movie stars are the only ones that can win it. And you literally have to. Okay, you can't say like, well, I've been falling off and not making much money. It has to show. Like, you were on a movie set. Something got released of a girl saying you graped her, and then all of.

[C]

A sudden, bum Grape Graped.

[A]

Grape. That's a good one.

[C]

You're trying to not say.

[A]

We're trying to.

[D]

You have. You have to.

[C]

Grape.

[A]

Grape, grape.

[B]

Say grope.

[D]

No, grope is gr. Is touch. Grape is actually grape. Grape. Like un alen and graping.

[B]

You know, I get that. Al graped.

[D]

Yeah. So you have to learn these code words for Instagram and tik tok.

[B]

I'm going to go grape you later.

[D]

No, we call that making mud babies.

[A]

Hey, Jay. Shout out where.

[C]

Where people can find you real quick.

[D]

You can find me on instagram and tick tock. 8up J. Or Jason Botcher back.

[B]

Okay, let's get our special guest in because he's probably getting restless. Whoa.

[C]

Justin.

[B]

Oh, Holy moly. What's up, everybody?

[A]

Justin. Justin. I got something for you. See, you said that I was, like, looking all scared sitting next to this guy. I'm sitting next to him again. Here, I'll touch him.

[E]

Oh, you're talking.

[B]

Man, you're going all the way back to the last episode that you guys were on.

[D]

That's gonna cost them where I come from. Listen, you gotta pay your taxes. I'm just gonna be honest with you. We don't call it gay in there.

[A]

It's good to see you again.

[B]

I want to say, Brady always asks what I'm drinking, so I got Woodford in here tonight. What's up, everybody? Everybody drinks but me.

[C]

Yeah, you drank at the live event, didn't you in the vfw?

[B]

I did. That was the first two beers I had since my cruise.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[B]

And that was a while. In about two weeks. You weren't drinking in Philly? No, I never had a sip.

[C]

No.

[B]

I'm sorry. At the casino, I did have a couple pineapples.

[C]

You didn't even have to admit that.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't drink. They were all about the truth here. But after two yinglings at the vfw, I had this urge to punch Reagan in the face. Like I was dying. He wasn't there, but I just, like, started to think, like, when Reagan was here, I'd punch him right in his mouth in the air. No, no, he's dead. Oh, Reagan. Our former kind of never happens. Sold out.

[A]

Oh, oh, oh, I'm sorry, man. Like, you're talking about the Vietnam.

[D]

What's up with these cops being so violent?

[C]

It's in our nature.

[B]

You followed me around. You should know that.

[A]

He had women follow you around.

[B]

He talked to us, Justin. What do you think? You're being sued, right? Yeah, no, apparently I am. I mean, it says counterculture, and I'm somewhat involved in counterculture, so I'm happy to be here. Proud to be here.

[C]

He's like, yo, can I go to New York with y'?

[E]

All?

[A]

We're gonna be live streaming from the courtroom.

[C]

Yeah, dude. Well, this is. I mean, this has got to be one of the first of this kind. When you mix podcasting and you mix black ops together in one case, like, there's. That's why there's no. Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

I just. I wish he had used everybody's, like, appropriate social media handles for all the publicity that he's trying to create for us.

[C]

I know. He could have at least used our Instagram, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Doing business. Ads suck. A free Sunday, you know, don't worry about.

[D]

It's all gonna come.

[A]

Just.

[D]

Just keep doing what you're doing.

[B]

I did drink it. Yes, I did. What, the hotel or the casino? Dylan was asking if I drank at parks. That was. I did.

[C]

How does Dylan know where you drink?

[B]

Because I said where I went. People pay attention. You don't pay attention to anything I say.

[C]

I do.

[B]

Yeah, you do.

[C]

You sound.

[B]

Yeah, go ahead, say it.

[C]

Anyways, Justin, we are launching. We are revamping our show tomorrow.

[B]

Yes, yes. So open mic. We used to do it on. We used to do it on Friday nights at 9 o'.

[D]

Clock.

[B]

It was, you know, kind of. Yeah. Worst time to podcast on a Friday night when most everybody's drained.

[C]

Nobody's out. No one's watching podcasts. Everyone's. I mean, we did have support.

[B]

Thursday at 8 is a very popular time.

[C]

Yeah, very popular.

[B]

Everybody wants to do it on Thursdays, but. Yeah, so we're pushing it up in the time slots to 3:00pm Eastern, and. And, you know, it's gonna. It's gonna be a little different. You know, like, this show does great work, but this one's gonna be us, you know, talking shop, busting balls, and, you know, doing. It'll be kind of like a zoom call. Who else is on the. On the thumbnail? I'm trying to guess.

[A]

So tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah, if you see the thumbnail, it's. It's Nick from Good Cop, Bad Cop, a podcast that used to be a podcast that might become a podcast, but who really knows? And then. And then that guy sitting next to you, Tyler, that's you.

[C]

Yeah, I'm in the middle. Holy. Yeah.

[B]

Black beard or something.

[C]

I have a black beard. Mike.

[B]

You got a gray and black beard.

[A]

The.

[B]

Are you talking about?

[C]

Yeah, no, yeah. The hosts are me, Justin, and Nick from Good Cop, Bad Cop. And is it New York or is it Philly? He's not feeling Philly. No, I mean, they're all the same.

[B]

His partner was Mike Doubt, who was a New York.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

His old partner was Michael Dowd, who was an NYPD who got indicted. You know about that? Went to jail. The 7 5.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So. But we'll be launching that tomorrow if you guys want to tune in at 3pm I know it's a work day, but if you want to put it on the background, listen to us. Going to be a kind of a different show that Mike. Mike doesn't support.

[D]

So listen, if y' all want to get invited. No, no, no. If you want to get under Mike skin, everybody just needs to see him in public. Like, hey, you're going to prison real soon. That's all you have to tell them.

[B]

It's coming.

[D]

It's coming. You're going to prison. It's the famous thing that's been going on with Mike for 10 years now.

[C]

Mike thinks the feds are after him every day.

[B]

Yeah, I'm hanging out with my Bluetooth Drop my.

[C]

The feds are after me.

[D]

No, no. I got pulled over, man, on the way here to talk about something serious.

[B]

We got a guess. You're good. Yeah. And then. And then. Or just call Mike a racist, like he gets called on Facebook. I have been called a racist quite often.

[D]

If I read this on what chat GPT just told me. Now, will I be on the law.

[A]

While you do that?

[B]

Introduce your. Make sure your mic's good. Good.

[E]

Check, check.

[C]

You can bring it. You can, like.

[D]

Yep. Like, it's on a. Pretend you're in federal.

[B]

If you pretend you're in federal prison, you just do like this.

[D]

Yeah, it's sweet.

[B]

How do you eat a hot dog?

[C]

So this is how Jay does. Talks on the mic.

[A]

Yeah. So this is. This is my buddy CC he's in the comments.

[C]

Conservative chocolates in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I stole one of your videos for tonight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I did, but we've been stealing.

[A]

We. So that's what happened. We stole one of his videos. And I said. I just reached out to him. I was like, hey, bro, just so you know, we use your video. And he's like, very polite.

[C]

Steeler.

[B]

Yeah, I record it and go, yeah.

[A]

And so he's like. He's like, oh, you guys are dope. I love you guys.

[B]

And.

[A]

And he's been with us since then, and. And we've stolen a lot of his videos.

[B]

Smells good too.

[A]

He does smell good. I can smell him all the way.

[B]

Lucky we're not in jail.

[A]

But he does have to use the bathroom, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Use the bathroom real quick.

[C]

Number one or number two?

[E]

Podcast.

[B]

Probably number two. Sorry. Go ahead, man. All right.

[C]

What were you gonna ask straight back?

[B]

This.

[C]

Are you going with them?

[B]

You guys are going together?

[D]

Well, somebody's got to hold it.

[A]

They're good friends.

[C]

Good, good. They're good friends.

[B]

You guys are connection. If anybody else needs to go to the bathroom, I can tell you where it is very easily, and you'll find. You'll find it all on your. I promise. You'll find it on your own. Very simple instructions.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey.

[B]

You know what?

[E]

I'm not.

[A]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna take it from you people for trying to be a n.

[B]

And going like, I. I guess I get it. I get it.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure you do, Mike.

[C]

You were gonna ask Jay something. Did you forget what it was?

[D]

No, I was gonna. I was gonna say what my intentions were. You know what I'm saying? Like.

[C]

All right, go ahead.

[D]

Here's. Here's my thing about this whole lawsuit, and I don't understand why the press or anybody's even got involved, because what. What is the basis behind it but hurt feelings?

[B]

Hurt.

[D]

I mean, you've read it, right?

[B]

Yeah, I did, yeah.

[D]

You read the whole thing?

[B]

I read everything.

[D]

What's the meat behind it like?

[B]

What caused him pain, suffering, sadness.

[A]

So, I mean, like, I. I was on the podcast for three months. I was never even there in 2023 when all this stuff happened. This is about me going, hold on, hold on.

[D]

So how long ago did this happen?

[B]

He yelled at him on. He made a. A video. Jimmy, did I get it?

[D]

How long ago did he wait to do this?

[C]

I think it was 2023. 2023.

[D]

So he waited this long?

[B]

It took this long to be upset.

[D]

Be upset.

[C]

Oh, yeah. What. What he claimed in the lawsuit or what he claimed on the New York Post. I'm sorry. Is that he said my. My former co host, Brent Tucker, went on. He left and created his own podcast. Well, everything I've been saying is true. We all know this because he would have sued me by now. He put he to the New York Post. I heard that. And now I'm suing. If this is what it's going to take to make it stop. He just told on himself to make it stop.

[D]

He's gonna sue.

[B]

But stop. Two years ago.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. So he brought it back because he wanted some attention. I mean, I'm not understanding because at the end of the day, I mean, I don't even know who this guy is, but if you want my opinion, I mean, it took me two seconds to read three different people shot. Yeah, allegedly. Okay, so you had somebody. Allegedly. But this is coming straight from their. Like, what the sources are and everything else. So, I mean, for the New York Post to even entertain this or any of it, so it tells you he has somebody on the inside. He made some strings pull.

[C]

Oh, he. He dropped the lawsuit and immediately went to the reporters.

[D]

Yeah, but not everybody can go to the reporters.

[A]

I want to back contributor.

[D]

Do you see where I'm coming from?

[E]

It is the New York Post. I mean.

[A]

You might know a thing or two about New York.

[B]

Cc.

[E]

So New York is infamous for using these type of hit pieces, especially with people like us.

[C]

Can you bring the mic a little closer right here?

[D]

Yeah, but hear me out on this. Let's just do a thing because I'm gonna prove everyone, y' all wrong. Let's all of us go individually and write them and see if we can get an article in there. No, we're not going to get one. So you see where I'm coming from? He's connected. So he. He's connected. He pulled some strings and said, I really need to get back in the spotlight.

[B]

What do I do?

[D]

What do I do? 25.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

Okay. Puts him back in the spotlight. Makes him a revelin again. He comes after people that said some things a couple years ago. But here's, here's the fact behind of it all. I'm gonna be honest with. I'd represent myself and then I'd also sit there and file a bunch of motions to run his attorney fees up. I wish he had put me in a lawsuit. I wish I'd have known about this.

[A]

Yeah, you might get your wish.

[D]

I want my wish because I'm going to read to you what my intentions are. Is it says right here, it says that nobody says three people had shot him. Then I asked how can you prove which shot actually unalived him? Says you can. It says not even, not even the SEALs, the CIA and the White House has ever claimed to. Here's why. And you can't prove it. High in confidence is no forensic autopsy was publicly released. So guess what? There's not even. So if you have three different individuals and Mike, you were copying for a while.

[A]

A little bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. Just for a couple years. And the reason why he got fired? Because he couldn't pass the, you know, the physical part.

[A]

Look at those legs. Look at those chicken legs.

[B]

So the reason I got fired, I was actually trying to pass the physical part. Yeah.

[D]

But I, you know, I, I, I understand you're stressed. I was looking at life, not just a lawsuit. But you have to understand that's pretty good. Yeah, I know I was looking at life twice. But the point of it is, is I made a quick search and this is what I was blown away from. Somebody that's a criminal and understands a little bit about law is that they've never done none of that released anything. Three people did it. So you tell me Mike, if three people shot somebody, how do you prove which one did the?

[B]

You can. You would need an autopsy to try.

[C]

To fix it and all time.

[B]

Yeah, you would. And if that doesn't work because it's too colluded, you would just charge them all with like a conspiracy or, or something that effect. You wouldn't be able to go straight if that's a bad one. Because murder a little different. But I get what you're saying. If you had the easier way for this is would be like if there's a kilo cocaine in the console and there's three of us in the car, how would you prove it? And if you don't have DNA and fingerprints, nobody, nobody did it. Should they charge everybody and then it all gets dropped? Yeah, then it all gets dropped because you can't Prove it. That's PC to arrest everybody. You can take everybody to jail in the car without a mission confession or a forensic evidence, DNA or fingerprints on the bag. You're gonna get. It's gonna get dropped. So nobody did it.

[A]

So we'd have to essentially nobody know the helmet cameras.

[C]

There's no helmet cameras.

[A]

Matt Bissonnet said there was.

[D]

So there's. I think there's cameras because he said they were watching that live go down. Yeah, there's cameras. They were actually watching live go down.

[C]

Yeah, I want to say Brent said there was.

[D]

Well, I want to say Obama said he was in the room watching it all.

[E]

He was watching it live now.

[A]

He was watching the uav.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they were watching the Predator.

[A]

They were. They were watching the pred feed.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, they were watching Kill tv, dude.

[E]

Because I'd be shocked if they didn't have, like, the Mohawk cameras that all the tier one guys use. And it was being live streamed 2011, dog.

[D]

Yeah, but. But hear me out on this dog. Your entertainment entertaining this would be to put him in a spotlight and subpoena all his CO.

[A]

People on the raid.

[B]

I mean, I think you would have to in order to prove the case, dude.

[C]

It would be great, because then everybody.

[D]

Be mad at him.

[B]

There they are.

[D]

They have to be pissed right now.

[C]

They're not gonna release all the sensitive information for some dumbass podcast civil suit.

[E]

No.

[A]

No, it's not.

[C]

And when you go.

[E]

I'm not gonna come either.

[C]

When you go. If you're the jury, right, Jay? You're the jury. You're a member of the jury. And they're like, listen, they would never.

[D]

Let somebody like that. I find everybody not guilty.

[C]

Yeah, I can't. Well, let's say you are. You're a good, upstanding citizen.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

Because he was a criminal. Doesn't mean he's not.

[D]

Last time I was an angel was probably like, 6, 7 years old when my mom kissed me on the forehead. And then after that, it was just like, mom, quit kissing me.

[C]

That's what.

[E]

That's what started.

[D]

That's what did it.

[B]

That's what did it. He's like, I got a guy waiting for me in the gym. Somebody will.

[C]

You're a juror. And you're like, okay, I'm listening to everything. And then. And then the. The one party's defense goes, we are not even able to bring the one thing that would end all of this because the CIA or the military or the Navy won't release it. What are you doing as a jury? I can't as a jury. You're not allowed to see the jury.

[D]

Yeah, civil is so much harder to prove. Most people settle out of it. But you have to understand, defamation. I mean, you can look it up. It's common sense. So many people threaten the defamation thing all the time. He's not that big of a public figure. And then on top of it, you have to have intent. If there's no intent where you are on Mike, or somebody's going to come in and say, hey, he intentionally did this despite. To hurt my career, you can say whatever you want. My beliefs. I don't.

[B]

Heated other people's accounts of what happened.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And it said all kinds of things.

[B]

So they repeated what they were told. So if you tell me something, I tell him. You're the source of it, not me. I'm just the middleman, dude.

[D]

I would ride this donkey all the way to the barn, dude. I'm telling you, man, slow as possible, you know? I mean, kids, you got to think about it. Think about the free publicity you can get on this. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, not saying that we would do that. We would.

[C]

We would never do that.

[D]

I'd be sending him a thank you letter and a bonus check in it.

[B]

We made an offer. You made an offer?

[C]

I did. I made an offer on Instagram. Oh, no, that wasn't for anything in particular. That was just me.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Making a post.

[E]

Random post.

[C]

I'm always sued by everybody threatening to be sued, you know. Well, I mean, like, random posts.

[A]

I, I came in. I came in. I was here before everybody else, and geez. Yeah, I'm throwing you under the bus.

[B]

Go us, huh?

[A]

Yeah. So I, I, I'm here.

[B]

All the lights were on this here. Last time you got here early, everything was broke.

[A]

So it's true. That is true. Nothing worked. And that was all my fault.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

But, like, I came up and I was like, mike, man, what the. He goes, jimmy, I've been sued all my life. This is not something you need to worry about.

[B]

No, I was supposed to be in federal prison.

[D]

Ask Jason.

[B]

He was one of my. The informants working against me.

[D]

I wasn't.

[B]

They tried to.

[A]

Yeah, they tried to flip you.

[D]

Yeah. No, no, they tried to flip me multiple times.

[A]

Yeah, but you didn't rat on nobody.

[D]

No, no, I didn't tell. I didn't cooperate. Tell them. It's not my genetics, man. Here's the thing about is once I, I'm a big boy, once I make the decision to do something, it's over with everybody. But get the out the way.

[B]

Yeah. If you told a lie on national tv, you would stick to it.

[D]

You damn right.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, here's the thing about it is, I mean, even if it doesn't matter, everybody lies. Yeah, everybody lies to an extent. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're never gonna get the full truth. Exact same words. I mean, literally, we're all. I don't know about good dudes, but if I tell him something in the ear and he whispers to him, somebody's gonna it up before it gets to the end.

[B]

Yes, the fish story. Always.

[D]

It's so simple. I mean, they taught that in what elementary.

[C]

It's called a telephone game.

[D]

I know, but still. I mean, as adults, we still it up.

[C]

Hey, super chats. Peach miss you boys. Uncle Mike owe you my life. Rob. Love it.

[B]

He's named in a lawsuit, but he's not sued. There's transcripts of the guys.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Peach with me and Peach. Peach's name. Peach's name appears in that lawsuit. Dude.

[B]

Like.

[A]

His name is.

[D]

He's a federal agent, guys.

[A]

He's the inside source because they quoted.

[D]

Watch out.

[A]

Conversation that I had with guys on the ground where I was like, that's. That's probably Rob. That's him right there.

[B]

And they're like, was that red solo cup talking?

[C]

Yeah, bro. I'm the England guy.

[A]

Dude, you're coming in hot.

[C]

Yeah. Mike doesn't drink, and he's all holier than that.

[A]

He's over there with his pinky up with his coke.

[D]

I can see the. The liberal vanilla. Which one is that?

[A]

That's that guy who's a little.

[C]

Yeah, liberal Mike.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's called conservative chocolate.

[A]

Liberal vanilla, dude. That's dope.

[C]

Dylan says T shirt idea. Ride this donkey to the barn. I love it. I love that. With Rob riding a donkey.

[D]

Well, the point is a donkey slow. He hung and he's an the whole way. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's my whole point is just be an about this thing. I would literally go to depots and be like, don't sue this guy.

[A]

He's gonna.

[B]

I don't recall.

[D]

I want him to sue me.

[C]

I have a theory, Mike. Why you didn't get sued.

[A]

Yeah. I want to know what you think.

[C]

I have a theory.

[D]

Good.

[C]

You openly talk about how you're not hurting for money. Like, that's just one of the things you do. You like. You don't brag about being rich. You don't Talk about them.

[B]

You always use money.

[C]

Yeah, but you openly talk about not being hurt.

[D]

Yeah, because he's on only fans. You didn't see he made the Facebook.

[E]

Facebook.

[D]

He made this Facebook.

[A]

His wife's gonna of a five year old dude.

[B]

He made.

[D]

He's Facebook famous.

[B]

Look how ripped they are.

[C]

Cheater.

[B]

Look at that. Good.

[D]

Anyway, that's photoshopped.

[E]

That's not. Anybody see the whole show?

[C]

Which one?

[E]

Did you guys see the.

[C]

No, I made it to about 2 hours and 10 minutes and I.

[E]

It was 4 hours, dude.

[B]

I was like, I can't that do either.

[E]

The reason I bring it up though, I think the whole law thing is very suspicious.

[C]

There you go.

[E]

Right when the podcast dropped casually, there's a headline to cover it.

[D]

Allegedly, it was the same day.

[C]

Right.

[D]

You think it's encountered counter that? Try to. Yeah. But the thing is that podcast is way bigger than that lawsuit will ever be.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

So you think that this is a conspiracy government type thing? It knows the purpose.

[B]

It was the day before Veterans Day. It was the day that business was on Sean Ryan. It was all calculated.

[D]

It's starting to make sense.

[B]

It's all publicity.

[D]

It's all this goes back to. What do we believe anymore? I don't know what to believe.

[A]

I mean, I don't know what to believe either. So go.

[D]

Elon Musk isn't.

[A]

Go ahead, man.

[C]

You gotta get there.

[A]

Yeah, Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

[B]

He'll buy YouTube.

[D]

He sells what's between them feet.

[B]

I don't have anything.

[C]

Vanilla.

[B]

Vanilla liberal, man. That's why he's got pants.

[E]

Put pants on, baby.

[D]

First thing I seen when I went to his account one time, I was like, d, I gotta go check this out. Is he really doing it? And the first thing somebody says, I don't take on small jobs. I'm like, oh, man, I don't want to go any further. They said that about you. They don't want to take on small jobs. That's what I heard. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So that means the joke's in your hand.

[B]

That's all right. Oh, that's all right.

[C]

I'm just saying. Oh. Because I don't know.

[A]

So. So what?

[B]

It's all good.

[D]

You don't know what it is.

[A]

I'm so lost in the sauce right now.

[C]

What's going on between you guys actually knowing each other and then the jail talk. It's really hard to like catch on.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I'm like, what? What?

[D]

We got some rookies here.

[A]

So, cc, like, you were talking about New York, right? Because I mean, you have a little bit of experience with that.

[E]

Yeah, I grew up the majority of my life in New York. And just. By the way, everything.

[A]

You're from the pr, right?

[E]

Yeah, so I was actually. I'm still in the PR guard unit.

[C]

Okay. 65th Puerto Rican National Guard. Puerto Rican drill in Puerto Rico.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Are you supposed to draw in Puerto Rico?

[D]

Puerto Ricans. Allegedly.

[A]

Allegedly.

[E]

We gotta touch on that.

[B]

Holy.

[D]

Dude, I've never seen 130 people indictments out of Puerto Rico.

[B]

This is Puerto Rican.

[D]

Oh, there you go.

[A]

So you should know, that was the conversation. He said, like, is he Hispanic? Is he not?

[C]

Mike.

[D]

Mike said he's Asian. Dude, everybody's on payroll in Puerto Rico.

[C]

Okay, so what's going on in Puerto Rico?

[E]

Puerto Rico is the only place where the FBI can go into a military installation 10 times in my career and come out with no indictments.

[B]

I know that feeling.

[E]

Think about that. But it's because everybody is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you got a line, you got whacked.

[B]

Everybody's going on in Puerto Rico. On the National Guard, they would indict somebody for.

[E]

Well, it's kind of odd that you see, you know, millions of dollars flowing into places, yet nothing happens. Like, I'll give you, I can say this for sure on. On record, right? Because it hit the news and it was everywhere. Like, for example, when the whole Hurricane Maria thing happened, they sent pallets upon pallets upon pallets of water to Puerto Rico. And then everybody was saying, well, there's no water. Trump isn't doing anything.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I remember that.

[E]

And then, come to find out, three years later, we found a couple hundred thousand cases of water, I remember, in some jungle somewhere.

[B]

How'd that happen? Suspicious, isn't it?

[A]

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. What are you talking about, cc?

[E]

So it's very suspicious.

[A]

It's very suspicious.

[E]

Puerto Rico makes New York look like a cakewalk.

[A]

Well, so, but speaking of New York, I mean, like, you. You and I talked about this. Rob lives in Montana, we live in Florida.

[E]

So why would you drop a case in New York?

[B]

It said he lived in New York in the lawsuit. Well, it said it.

[A]

Get the out of here.

[D]

But.

[E]

But the fine lives.

[D]

Yeah, but hold on. But the crime was committed here.

[B]

Exactly.

[E]

Allegedly.

[A]

Yeah, but the victim's not here.

[B]

But it's Internet. So then you got multiple jurisdictions.

[E]

Oh, is that how it works?

[B]

I don't know. I mean, to me it's interesting that it's a state court, but he's alleging the damages occurred. But normally you're right.

[D]

Yeah, but it's across straight lines. If it's. If it's podcast, it should be international, it should be state lines. So it should be federal lawsuit.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I agree with that completely.

[D]

Because then you can pick where you want it. You don't pick in state.

[B]

Yeah, because if. If. If you like, if I. You called me and you said I got threatened in New York and the guys in Florida. If I'm in New York, police in Florida have to take the report.

[D]

I know why they did New York.

[E]

Because New York is where he had the end.

[B]

Allegedly.

[A]

Allegedly.

[E]

Well, think about it like this. He drops the case in New York, right? And then the New York Post picks it up.

[B]

Montana Times isn't going to come yet.

[E]

No, nobody. Nobody looks at the Montana.

[A]

Montana is not picking this up.

[C]

Wait, are you. Who you guys talking about? Who you guys talking about?

[B]

How the cases filed in New York?

[C]

Apparently he said he lives in New York.

[B]

Yeah, but that's what they're saying. Like lives in New York.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We'Re gonna get accused of saying he doesn't live where he lives.

[C]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[B]

Allegedly.

[D]

You can't get sued for saying something that has no intent.

[C]

Can you get something?

[E]

Well, you can sue anybody for anything.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, they can indict him. Sounds Mike.

[B]

Just saying. Anybody can say whatever they want about you.

[D]

I did a trash pull and I couldn't follow him. Can I get a wiretap, please?

[B]

I can name that. Not can name that. Tune in under 60 pages. I can have that wiretapping on 54 pages after result. After exhausting all attempts to investigate the source of his trafficking drugs. I need a wiretap to listen because he didn't throw any drugs in the trash.

[D]

I just changed him out every two weeks.

[B]

I used to hate that.

[C]

We're just.

[B]

Somebody just got rid of. I think I stopped talking to him.

[A]

Lewis.

[C]

Lewis just acted.

[B]

Lewis made a command decision, though.

[C]

Oh, damn, Justin.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Dylan says get C.C. heated and let him cook.

[A]

Hey, hey, hey, C.C. you don't have a drink, dog. You want me to hook you up?

[E]

Appreciate a beer. I'll get you one if I can drink it on.

[B]

You guys want to go together?

[A]

Hey, that's for you, man.

[E]

I brought a bunch of stuff for you guys in the car. By the way, before I leave out.

[D]

Hold on. Donut shop podcast really says should be governed by the FBI. You already know that it is.

[A]

That's.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, well, it's all in those terms and conditions. On YouTube that everything is allowed to be listened.

[C]

Well, Dylan also says, yo, chocolate, when you sending me your country song?

[E]

I got you, Dylan.

[A]

I got you.

[B]

We got it.

[E]

We got a collab on that.

[A]

Dude, you got, like, a lot of followers for a guy like, this is the first time you've been here, but you've been, like, a bad chat. You've been in the chat.

[E]

I just sent Brady a coin. I got your patch right here.

[A]

Give it to Mike. Give it to Mike.

[B]

There you go.

[E]

Oh, we'll just do it.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Here you go.

[E]

Might as well pass these along, too.

[A]

Don't touch this, man. Your skin will sit.

[D]

What the hell is this thing?

[E]

I got one for you, too.

[D]

What do you got going on already? I'm a criminal. You got to give me, like.

[B]

Yeah, you guys pass out, like, kilos and. And cool. We pass out coins and patches, man.

[D]

I see that.

[A]

Look at this thing, man.

[B]

This is dope as.

[A]

Hey, you got that shirt?

[E]

Yeah, I got the shirt for you in the car.

[A]

That.

[E]

The only thing I ask is that you guys.

[D]

So it's just, like, a picture of the coin? Okay, so is this, like. Like, a cheap thing? You get the Jimmy's holding it up.

[B]

For the whole world to see.

[A]

Right now I'm wanting to read it first. Right? So, okay, so it says United Housing foundation, and it's got.

[B]

It's not supposed to be doing. You're not supposed to be doing that.

[C]

What?

[B]

The point of not posting a picture was not to talk about the coin. Yeah, you must have missed that part.

[A]

Oh, I thought he said do post. Yeah, it is the red cup. That's my bad, cc.

[E]

Nobody can see it.

[A]

We'll blur that out.

[E]

Blur it out.

[C]

Is it for what's in the hand? Is that why?

[E]

No, it's. We'll talk offline.

[A]

Okay, here we go.

[D]

If I don't want to talk about.

[B]

The coin at all. But let's. Let's. Let's do a Q A.

[C]

Did he see that?

[A]

Did he see that?

[C]

It.

[E]

Yeah, no one's for him.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's for you.

[B]

He's got a bug in it, so.

[E]

I'm gonna listen to everything.

[D]

You guys. We already see that. This has to do with the Rockefellers.

[E]

No comments.

[D]

No, no.

[A]

Hey, man. Allegedly.

[E]

Also for you guys that have the coin that has, like, off coloring, it's glow in the dark. Yeah, we come with bangers over here, dude.

[D]

So is this, like, going in a jeep and you get a duck every time you park?

[B]

Pretty much, yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Okay, yeah.

[B]

If you get pulled over, you just hold this out the window.

[D]

I just tell him I know Mike Dilks. Yep.

[B]

And you're going.

[D]

That's what I tell all of them. I'm like, hey, listen, guys, I just want to let you know I'm really. I know Mike Dilks used to chase me for all the time, but he never was able to get me because.

[B]

You tell him I'm on the payroll, man.

[D]

No, no, no. I just tell him, like, listen, you can't arrest me.

[B]

He'll get mad because I gotta arrest you.

[D]

Yeah, I never did.

[B]

I never got you.

[D]

Not nobody in Vero ever got me.

[A]

It was the feds that got you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, but see, he was. He was. He had. He had people on the payroll, man. So it's tough, dude.

[A]

He was sending. He was sending hoes to this dude all the time.

[B]

He had. Way higher up than me, dude.

[E]

My biggest drove all the way.

[B]

This dude drove all the way.

[A]

I mean, like. Like your. Your old ladies off camera. I feel like she knife all of us.

[E]

That's my assassin over there.

[D]

You don't look that mean.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, let's break down a video.

[A]

Oh, let's break down.

[B]

All right, Lewis, let's break down a video. Lewis has to show us his special talent too, at some point.

[A]

Hey, hey, Lewis, do you have enough soda?

[B]

No, no, I like it.

[A]

Lewis, do you have enough soda tonight?

[B]

Good. I do.

[C]

You got five videos.

[B]

Oh, that can't be the right one. No, Lewis is in the wrong.

[E]

Is that what you guys do?

[B]

You download the video? No, no, no.

[A]

Hey, man, we're showing you behind me.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Showing you behind the curtain, the man behind the mirror.

[B]

I don't know about that one. This is comedy. This is comedy. Goal. This is the best video I've seen all day. I would love for him.

[A]

It's like some signature.

[B]

I don't know what is this is, but it's comedy. On God's truck. Home down.

[C]

Man. Sit. Jacked ass was wrong.

[B]

What the you speeding for? It's great.

[C]

Dude, don't you go.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Don't you.

[B]

You stay your ass right here.

[A]

Man.

[B]

Get your hands out. I change you right now.

[C]

Get your ass out. Dude doing the thing.

[D]

Crazy.

[C]

You trying to kill yourself? Get out the goddamn car, man.

[E]

Damn it.

[D]

I hate doing this.

[B]

You got. What are you, a NASCAR driver or something?

[A]

Stupid ass.

[B]

Crash the car. I don't want to hear.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

You shouldn't been with him.

[C]

Hey, y', all save that for the.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

You save it for The.

[D]

It looks like P. Diddy.

[B]

I stumbled across that I cut. That was the last video. I.

[A]

Who. Who dropped that?

[B]

That's his page.

[C]

All right, so first off, I know what you're talking about. You don't know what. Like what I can tell you right now, that.

[A]

That.

[C]

That's a propped car that they buy.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Or they rent. And he's in. But that was.

[B]

That was good.

[E]

Amazing.

[D]

That was funny.

[C]

Don't want to know why it was funny because it wasn't a cop that made it correct. It was an actual comedian.

[E]

Oh, the guy's not.

[C]

That's why it's funny. If a cop tried to do that. Cop tried to do that, he'd be so worried about getting in trouble.

[D]

Is that why you have to drink beer for this?

[B]

No.

[E]

Well, I mean, the Tick Tock cops do the same thing. Those videos.

[A]

What don't even.

[C]

They're not good. They're not gonna hold on.

[A]

Summon him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Will appear in a cloud of smoke.

[B]

To give credit, his Instagram @IM D E S I Banks. I am D E S I Banks is his Instagram photo at the end.

[D]

Is he really a cop?

[B]

No, it's a comedy skit. That's.

[C]

That's why it's funny. That's why it's funny. If a cop tried to do that, it would be lame, stupid, not funny.

[D]

Or a fashion show. Because listen, look at all the hot cop chicks now. Dude, they're smoking.

[E]

Well, they get on. The police department is.

[D]

Dude, oh, my God, I just seen one in Sebastian Halloween.

[B]

Dude.

[D]

Holy shit. All they do is their makeup to the tea. Everything told the one that works at. Was working at Saint Helens. A blonde chick. So anyways, so I was at.

[B]

I only know one female. My wife.

[D]

Yeah, I know, but hold on. Just because she has handcuffs and a gun, she probably, you know. Anyways, I seen her at Big Shots and I told her. I was like, listen, what happened? Where was all the hot chicks when I was a criminal?

[B]

I said, Greg Valentine.

[D]

Dude, they were rough. Looking back.

[B]

Yeah, they look like gym. The gym teachers.

[D]

Hey, I'll rest you.

[B]

Yeah, I got you.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

How about. How about Them Giants? How about Them Giants?

[B]

Giants lost.

[A]

You don't understand what I'm trying to do here.

[B]

Trying to get away from the topic. Yes. I mean, another guy can say that. I mean, it's not that bad. Good.

[C]

Are you in that much hot water?

[B]

Hold up. Pause it.

[A]

Dude, you don't even want to know. So this.

[B]

This is.

[E]

Is this what I posted?

[B]

No, you're Just different. This is when I broke down. This is the rock that was on my last night.

[E]

Dude, that's insane.

[B]

Go ahead and hit that video. Put rocks in his.

[C]

Hold those back. They're not yours.

[B]

Put them back. Put them back.

[A]

Sit down.

[C]

Sit down.

[A]

Sit down.

[D]

Over a rock.

[A]

He's got a rock in his hand.

[E]

Like a weapon.

[C]

Smart on his part.

[B]

Legal defense. Yeah, like a weapon.

[A]

Get out of here.

[C]

Stop talking.

[E]

Hey, you back there.

[C]

Clear out.

[E]

Put the rock down.

[A]

True, dude, put the rock. Put it down.

[D]

Now he's got the gun out.

[B]

Hit the rock. Real dangerous right now.

[E]

Goes crazier.

[B]

5, 3, 3 shots.

[D]

Fire.

[B]

5, 3, 3 shots. Call me Liberal Mic.

[D]

All right, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Let me clip it. Get Liberal Mic up.

[D]

Dude, that was wrong.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

That is no different than the pot, the hot boiling water pot. That incident was created by the cop.

[C]

Yeah, man, I was gonna play my character, Mike, but that all they had.

[D]

To do is tase them.

[C]

Dude, the poor.

[E]

Well, he should have dropped them right there. He let him run away.

[C]

Water is more way better than this.

[B]

Okay, good.

[A]

I mean, spear the dude.

[B]

What you don't see, and I'm gonna save it all. My wife watches everything and breaks it down is they played that game with him. Stand for like eight minutes with not knowing what to do. He's just a suspicious person. There's a complaint on him that. What do we do, everybody.

[C]

Was he detained?

[B]

Kinda. They were just fake. No, they were just figuring out. Ran away. They were figuring out what's going on.

[C]

No, no, I mean, like, was he detained?

[B]

Suspicious.

[C]

Well, so have you ever. Were you cop? No, just military. So like, if I walk up to you, you being detained doesn't mean I.

[B]

They had enough to. I'm telling you, they had enough to detain him. They just couldn't figure out what they were going to do with.

[D]

So like.

[C]

And you could argue in if. If all four of us were cops and we stood around you, you could argue. I felt I couldn't leave, therefore I felt detained. I. I felt I couldn't leave. Right, but so, but if I say, hey man, you're not free to leave, I'm detaining.

[B]

I think when he pulled a gun and pointed at him, I think he was detained at that point.

[A]

But for what?

[C]

We don't have any content.

[B]

I can see at the point where he picks up the rock initially and stands up and he grabs her for a minute. That point right there is a double leg takedown or tasing right there. All those things.

[A]

As soon as the rock comes out, I'm like, hands on. Game on, man.

[D]

Yeah, but here's the whole point about it is, I mean, you have a taser, why do they grab a gun?

[A]

That.

[B]

That's why I agree with you.

[D]

It's. The dude had nothing that was gonna harm him.

[B]

I'm okay with the gun being out, but one person has lethal. One should have less lethal.

[E]

And the guy. If you watch again, I can see.

[B]

The guy that walks up behind him. They should have. Nobody knew what to do. And that's what a situation where nobody knows what to do and nobody takes more force.

[A]

Now who is. Who's it really at fault at that? Is it the cop or is it the agency? Mike?

[B]

Like agency for sure. Yeah, it's. It's. But here. Well, yes, but I blame. But. But your job. When your job to get is gonna.

[A]

You.

[B]

When your life is on the line, your family, your job. Yeah. Lawsuit. You have to be trained better than your agency is going to train you. If you're only doing the training that your agency is providing, you're failing your family and yourself. You should be training extra. So in that situation where I go, okay, I'm gonna go hands on. The guy's got a rock.

[C]

Why would you go hands on with a guy with a rock?

[B]

Initially we grabbed it.

[E]

Well, there's two of them.

[B]

He did though, is what I'm saying.

[C]

He gets it doesn't matter if there's two. He's got a rock.

[D]

He'.

[C]

Back in the day.

[B]

You have to go hands on.

[D]

Listen, old school, back in the day, would went hands on with you and beat the hell out.

[E]

Probably punched him as soon as he stood up.

[B]

He should have punched him in the mouth. I'd been cool with that.

[C]

What if he hit you in the head with a rock and kill then?

[B]

And I covered that last night. That is a deadly force situation.

[C]

No, he's got to kill a cop first. Got it, got it. I got it now, Mike.

[E]

I got it.

[C]

We got to sacrifice one cop in.

[B]

Order to use lethal. So. So that's what the agents.

[D]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's. I got a second opinion. This. So I. Okay, until now, just recently, whatever. But in most states, if somebody threatens me and jumps on me, I can't even fight back without going to jail. Most states. So, so, so what is it? So my whole point of this is, is even if. If somebody's whooping me, I can't just stab them or shoot them.

[C]

Are you talking about like a felon? Status or just in general?

[D]

In general.

[E]

I mean, like, depends on the state.

[C]

Most states, if you fear for your Zimmerman.

[A]

Zimmerman got off on that.

[D]

That. That's different. I'm talking about other Florida. I know, but I'm talking about other states.

[B]

Penny got indicted in New York for choking. That.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[E]

That's exactly what.

[D]

That's what I'm getting at.

[B]

Let me clear this up for maga, Tyler. Yes. The rock is deadly force. The rock is deadly force. What I said was, though, when he stood up and initially didn't listen, the officer went hands on and grabbed him. That is when I say you continue.

[E]

If you.

[B]

That's your choice. He made that decision. I'm grabbing him. I don't understand why you would then disengage. You should do it. Or you should punch him in the face, you should elbow him, put him in a rear naked chokehold. Whatever you want to do.

[D]

Yeah, but in that point, there was nothing there for that cop to pull his gun out. When he has a taser that could have done that.

[B]

I will say I agree with the gun coming out. One person has lethal. You have a rock, he can mash your skull in.

[C]

Mike, to be a real cop, he wasn't close enough.

[D]

Once he started walking away. Should have changed when he runs. When he run, he should have changed out.

[B]

I give you that.

[E]

I'll give you. This is my take on it, right? Somebody being from Puerto Rico, street, Puerto Rico, lived in the hood my whole life, all this other stuff, right? Just giving like background to my comment here. The moment you run from a cop and you start putting your hands all crazy and you're putting your hands in your pocket, you just gave him the green light.

[D]

No, no, I agree, I agree with that, but.

[E]

And he had a rock. Bro, if I turn around you, I could smoke.

[B]

Smoke you.

[D]

I, I get it. But that's why we're having the problems that we're having though too. It's like we have tasers now. Back then we didn't have them. He could have just dropped them.

[E]

Yeah, but now you're saying that the Rock should put his life on the line and say that you're not gonna hit him with that rock. Before that.

[B]

You can't rely on the teaser here. If you want my honest take from the beginning. One guy's lethal coverage, points the gun, yells all the crazy stuff. The other guy walks up behind, pops him with the taser.

[D]

Yeah, if it works, great.

[B]

If it doesn't and the guy rushes you with a rock, then you drop him. I have no problem killing a guy with a rock in his hand. My point is when they're running after him and you're creating like you're saying now there's distance, there is time for another plan. The general public's really not in danger. He's got a little rock in his hand. Now if you get into a altercation one on one with nobody around, the rock is very dangerous. But even with backup, I will give any two of you, I take the rock, the two of you are going to kill me. Me and beat me or shoot me long before I can incapacitate one of you.

[D]

Can I touch on something else? So because this is what's kind of weird. Cops are getting. Why isn't the same standard going on with all these people throwing rocks at these ICE agents?

[B]

You're never gonna.

[D]

So here, here's my point is, here's my point is this, this is, that's what I'm saying though. It's just like the whole thing.

[B]

He was definitely a protestable.

[D]

But when you're protesting you can do whatever you want to law enforcement, but when you're not protesting, you get killed. I, I don't, I don't understand. I don't understand where the line is involved.

[B]

So I agree with you and we talked about this.

[E]

He's protesting, you're throwing rocks at cops.

[B]

I think they should get dropped 100.

[D]

Those protesters, look at this they're doing on TV.

[C]

Hold the on.

[A]

When I was in Iraq, we got rocks thrown at us all the time. And that was not within the ROE That's Iraq.

[B]

I know.

[A]

No, no, that's what I'm saying. You'd think that like it would be.

[C]

Like I'm gonna shoot this.

[E]

18 year old.

[A]

I got a 19 year old saw gunner who's getting pelted with rocks and I'm telling him you can't shoot, bro.

[B]

Yeah, but hold on, hold on.

[A]

You're gonna tell me I can't shoot the Iraqis, but I can shoot the Americans? Yeah, sorry, I'm not, I'm not playing.

[D]

That they're a different set of rules.

[C]

Well, and it's also we're not talking about a kid. So I'm not going to show up on a call with a nine year old kid with a rock and shoot him a grown ass man. That's a different set of rules than any man's. Ey guys.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

So you know it's different.

[B]

Dude, I think you could do the.

[C]

Same thing to me. But I have. I'm biased when it comes to a child.

[A]

If you threw. If. If some Iraqi fighting age males were throwing rocks at you while you were in the turret and you turned with your.50 cal and fired, you were going to buka.

[D]

You were.

[A]

You were getting up.

[C]

Yeah, but it's not Lemonworth because you're in an UP armored vehicle.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

It's kind of hard.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So say you're a dismount. It's the same as a dismount. Yeah, you're. You can't tell me.

[C]

That's a good point.

[A]

That as a cop, it's okay to shoot Americans throwing rocks at you, but as a soldier in Iraq, I can't.

[C]

Well, so maybe we got it right in law enforcement, and the ROE should have been changed in Iraq.

[A]

Okay, well, then say that, Mike.

[D]

Can I. Can I put.

[A]

But that's not how it went down for us. And there were plenty of other times where we shot people in Iraq. And if you allegedly. And if you had done that in the United States would have been like, yo, bro, what the.

[E]

What do you mean?

[D]

They're getting charged for shooting known terrorists at a checkpoint that didn't stop, and they're putting them in prison. So, I mean, they're doing the same thing. I mean, they. They're doing it over there. But my point of it is the.

[B]

Command went after him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Good friend, by the way. Good friend on the show. Good friend. Eddie Piper Foundation. Sorry, go ahead.

[D]

As a criminal, I put myself in a lot of bad situations. Right. And would you agree that criminals in the drug game, crime. Get killed more than cops?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Okay, so you agree that it's more dangerous to be in that field, right?

[B]

Correct.

[D]

And so all those years, all that going on, I. I shot at somebody one time because they were trying to rob. But other than that, I put myself in all kinds of situations. Been fought, been kidnapped. Everything you can think about. Right.

[C]

Right.

[D]

I didn't shoot nobody. Like, these cops to me, take stuff way too far, like, oh, I might not gone home. Dude. It's a. It's a dude with a rock that didn't look like you do anything. You could trip and fall and hit your head. It's the same thing on the job.

[B]

And that's what I agree with.

[D]

And running.

[B]

In that scenario, training comes running. Running with a rock and having the ability to throw it. Yes. You can probably scientifically kill me. I. I don't know.

[D]

Maybe.

[B]

But one on one. And so the rock thing, you have to take the whole environment.

[C]

Environment.

[B]

If we're in an alleyway and it's just me and you and you're the bad guy and I'm the cop and you have a rock that's a thousand percent different than running down the middle of the street. So I don't agree with that shooting. I don't agree with it. Can the rock harm you?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

And I was. I was checked by a guy who sent me an article where a cop was killed with a rock. He got smashed in the face. They took his gun and killed him. And I said that is.

[C]

I remember that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, that was a hand like they were wrestling. Right.

[C]

So that wants. That.

[B]

That can happen. Happen. That can happen.

[D]

The only reason why I, I'm, I'm. I take this stuff a little more because you're seeing so many videos these days. And I want y' all to understand this. When you see these people sitting in the car and they're nervous because what's going on and they get so nervous, that makes the cop nervous. Next thing you know, they're doing something stupid.

[B]

It's like Tyler comes up and gives them distractionary blows to the face.

[A]

Distractionary blows. Got to be a shirt.

[B]

If the whole thing is out of whack. And now you're. You're bringing cops into the job that have, like we talked about earlier, no business being cops that are becoming cops based on tick tock videos.

[E]

Well, look in New York.

[B]

Yes. And bad, bad recruiting tactics where we're dancing in the chief singing. You're a new cop, you're a new cup. That's the people out there. And then when they go to. To most cops, a rock is dangerous. I don't look at that dangerous. And my training experience. I can overcome that rock without. Without shooting that guy.

[A]

I'm confident square up, catch it on.

[D]

The that exact scenario.

[B]

Not every time time. But I believe in that scenario. I could.

[A]

If you could dodge a rock, you could dodge.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You got. At best, you got misdemeanor charges.

[A]

Right.

[C]

As a cop. At best I have misdemeanor charges on this gentleman. He takes off running. I'm now in a foot pursuit and I'm putting myself. I'm like forcing his liberal.

[B]

Tyler.

[C]

I'm just saying this one's a hard one because I thought you were. I knew you were showing me a video with a guy in a rock, but I thought it was going to be like cold cut like this and he got shot.

[B]

No, it's a little.

[C]

Yeah. The fact that you put yourself. You thought as a cop. I'M gonna just go tackle this dude. It's gonna be a cool arrest. Like, that dude. Did he even turn to lift his hand? He.

[B]

You can see the rock kind of flat of his hand as he's getting shot. Maybe.

[C]

I mean, he could have been mentally ill. Like. Yeah, like, through the rock. Okay.

[D]

I'm just gonna tell you this. I just. This is difference between. And. I've done a lot of crazy in my life. Life that wouldn't have feared me. I. I don't think I would want to shoot somebody over that. I'm just.

[B]

Sorry.

[E]

But it all goes back to what he said, too. If you're only doing the agency training, you're not taking the time out to do your own training and get concurrent in what you're supposed to do. We have to be in those situations.

[B]

We have now talked about this more than most patrol cops will run this through their own agency and say, hey, if that, you know, take that situation and turn it into something positive, it ends up going bad.

[D]

That.

[B]

That's why we talk about these things. And the. And the agency should be talking about these things going, hey, guys, let's say that exact scenario happens. We should tackle that guy, whatever it may be. Let's look. Go ahead.

[A]

Hold on.

[E]

This ar.

[A]

Yeah, that. That's exactly.

[B]

Stop. Yeah, stop. The.

[A]

What you just said was so important. It was so important. You said. We have talked about this more than other people have.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[A]

So this is the kind of thing that you should be thinking about. You should be going, hey, man, let's do some vignettes. Here's how we deal with this. Let's train.

[D]

I know what you're saying about the training, but hear me out on this.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[D]

You got to realize one thing is you're saying that his life could have been at. At risk of losing his life over rock. Am I correct?

[A]

I'm not saying.

[D]

Okay, hold on. Allegedly.

[C]

Right? Third camera angle. Since you were only using two, you. Okay, Hit that third button. There you go.

[D]

The lack of training, too.

[C]

I had three cameras going. So, hey, just in case everybody's talking and you just want to back out.

[D]

You know, here's the thing about it. Now, his lack of training could have cost him 25 to life in prison. Is it not right? It goes both ways is what I'm trying to tell you. And this is what I've talked to you earlier about how. Why they're doing the things they're doing. And nobody can answer it because he's not just risking how ending his life but he's risking to putting in life in prison.

[B]

But my point is, is cops are not taking the job serious enough to not end up in prison. They tell that there's a. You go to every briefing. I remember the first briefing ever after Uvalde. I was a sergeant. I walked in that was insane. And I talked about that. And I said, I looked at a room full of bags out of shape bags. That was my. Most of my shift. Not all of them, but most. And I said, what would you. Every single one of them is going to charge down the hallway and take the shooter out and do other.

[A]

All that.

[B]

Not one of the goes to the gym. Not one of those dudes was in shape, and not one of those dudes goes to the range. But they left work. And they tell their family every day, I'm coming home.

[A]

It's a brotherhood.

[B]

We're going to work and we're all making it home together. But they're not training and preparing for it. I'm not telling you that your whole life should be being a cop. But you just said it. You don't want to go to prison for 25 years. You think I'd know the case law and if I could tackle that or not? You think I know the case law when I can pull my gun out and shoot that guy?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You think I would know the case law when it's time to choke a guy? Not choke a guy. If I can chase a guy with a car and run them over, I would know all those things. If I tell my family I'm coming home tonight, it's not just about being on steroids and being yoked. It's about having a brain and saying, I know what I can do today to not end up in prison.

[D]

I feel like cops today have more of a risk going to prison than because they're unalive in themselves.

[B]

They're stupider.

[D]

You see?

[A]

Hold on, hold on. If you trained. If you trained for your problems. Yeah.

[C]

This is what I do when we do cop talks so much.

[B]

All right, all right, let's move on.

[D]

Let me.

[A]

Let me just end with this.

[B]

That's why Tyler's not a cop anymore.

[C]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

Look, if you train for your job as a police officer like you train for your Tik Tok videos, there'd probably be less lawsuits. I'm just throwing that out there.

[E]

Yeah, but no way to be Tik Tok famous.

[B]

Yeah. That's all I want.

[A]

Hey, you're right, cc.

[B]

We'll talk about it on our show.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Mike was one of them.

[C]

You guys are going to start one day.

[D]

He was Instagram.

[C]

You're.

[A]

You're.

[C]

You're with. You're with.

[B]

I'm an idea. I'm only an ideas guy.

[D]

I don't.

[C]

You're with Jimmy in the idea show box, where we have great ideas about shows. We just don't start them.

[A]

I mean, it's fair. It's fair.

[B]

I actually have a podcast. Jimmy doesn't.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

He has a platform and all these people. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

People have been wanting the Jimmy show. We just.

[A]

I mean, like. But, like, I cut a banger on Warhammer 40K, and people are, like, glazing over and dying.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Mine's all criminals.

[B]

Jimmy's Conspiracies.

[E]

That's the name.

[B]

All right, Jimmy, let's do it.

[A]

Tip Hat Dog. Did you bring it? Did you bring it? No.

[D]

A.

[B]

It was crazy day. This is uk. This is your video, I think, is it? No.

[E]

Might be.

[B]

I'll kill you, bro.

[C]

I would be punching him so hard in the face.

[E]

That led to this.

[B]

No.

[C]

You got it.

[A]

Oh, checking the. You take cops ain't got on American cops.

[D]

They don't even have guns.

[B]

I think that was excellent.

[C]

He just pissed me off, that's why.

[A]

All right, well, you got more experience than me.

[B]

You want to hit him because he's brown? Yeah.

[E]

Is that what he.

[A]

I didn't say that. Evil on me.

[B]

Bobby beat him.

[E]

I beat him.

[B]

I think from what you see in America, though, that was actually handled very well.

[A]

Well, they were trying to control hands.

[C]

Right.

[A]

That's all they were doing.

[C]

My dad always told me, UK cops are a lot tougher and better because they have to do the job.

[B]

Plus, they drink beer like 3am when they went.

[C]

But they don't have that equalizer on their hip. They have.

[A]

They have to go hands off.

[C]

They have to train. They don't have that option.

[B]

He didn't get away. He didn't. No. No. Strikes were thrown, and they controlled him the entire time.

[C]

Mike's gonna want to strip all cops of guns here in two weeks. You don't need it if you train.

[A]

Go to Brennan's class.

[B]

But this isn't a dig. No, I know Jimmy not being a cop. He immediately was like, what the. Because he's used to Tyler wanting to beat the out of everybody out of him. He's like, this has got to be bad.

[D]

I'd rather watch cops whoop the out of people.

[B]

This is an entertainment.

[A]

This is.

[B]

Point.

[D]

But listen, I'd rather see cops whoop the. Out of people like, I got what, you know, they do, prisoners and stuff, than killing them.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Because they know the reason why I say is at least they're still gonna. Everybody goes home. Everybody goes home. They're not gonna go to prison for the rest of their life. The problem of it is, is now that they're doing what they're doing, and they doing like, they don't know which way to go. So what do they do? They go soft on crime. They're like, I'm not doing my job no more. So they're all sitting back now, and it's like I told you last time.

[B]

Let me.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Let me show you the social experiment, though. That video. When you're watching an MMA fight and they beat the brakes off each other, they're bleeding, or pun. It's the best fight you ever seen. Right. When two guys wrestle, the whole fight, it's boring. Right. So that video looks bad because there's nothing cool happening.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

From the administrator.

[C]

You break it down. It's not even cool.

[A]

There's nothing we can do here.

[D]

Like.

[A]

Like. Oh, man, look at that.

[B]

From the administration and training side of it. It was very effective because nobody got hurt.

[C]

It looks good.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I know you want to beat them.

[E]

Up, so if you're a cop, do that.

[A]

That in the United States, I would.

[C]

Recommend not resisting mind control.

[B]

Jesus. This is from the guy who thinks you know Derek Sh.

[E]

My author.

[A]

Who said that?

[D]

Him?

[A]

Oh, I was gonna say.

[E]

Not again.

[B]

Go ahead. Go ahead.

[C]

Louis, Are we on Thor already?

[B]

Y.

[C]

Video 4.

[A]

Damn, dude.

[B]

This guy was just cleared. The cop. That sound. It's a body cam, dude.

[C]

It takes a minute.

[A]

Oh, tight.

[B]

Go ahead, Lois. You're not. You're not at fault. Body cam delay.

[E]

I cleared in New York.

[B]

No, it will be.

[C]

It will. Is.

[A]

Is this.

[E]

It's a body cam. It turns on.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, that scared me.

[C]

That would have shot her.

[B]

Scared me. Yeah.

[C]

Bruce, drop the knife.

[A]

Bruce.

[C]

Bruce.

[D]

Is.

[B]

What if it was a rock?

[E]

Still clean.

[C]

Still clean. Shoot.

[B]

You like that?

[C]

I felt like that was an academy class. That was a good academy.

[A]

You know what? You know what?

[C]

That look real quick. You changed it to rock. And I. My. Even my brain went. And I was like, oh, it's the same thing.

[B]

So that. That rock in. In that situ. And I agree. That's the difference in. When the rock.

[A]

But. But you know what that looked like to me? That looked like suicide by cop.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know the backstory.

[C]

I just know not My problem that I'm going home.

[B]

Even in New York though because like you talk I can't believe you got all they actually like we're looking in like that cop was in hot water for a while until it got cleared in Florida. You're back to work in three days.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

That's you for Grady Judge.

[B]

You're not even you're going.

[C]

Go on lunch real quick.

[B]

They're like hey dude, you're supposed to empty that bag. We're getting bullets this week.

[E]

GR is like why didn't you empty.

[B]

Them to contrast the rock. Yes. Now in that scenario that rock is a there's a no brainer. Like no brainer. The guy's got a rock, he's charging and you.

[C]

But here's the thing.

[D]

No I, I mean I understand where you all come from. The only problem that I don't like is that they're doing these stuff now. Law enforcement's not doing nothing and they're just literally allowing everything to happen. And this is all because of a couple cases.

[C]

I think you're bitter. I think you're bitter because when you were an active criminal they were hard and now you're out. You're like where the.

[D]

I agree with.

[C]

That'D be a kingpin right now.

[B]

One of the most interesting things he said said last time and on my was was you still want strong police and police because you don't want your family to be a victim.

[D]

Yes. I'll handle my own business. I tell people all the time like if you want to handle streets we'll hand the streets. I don't have a problem on I.

[C]

Really don't 10 toes down.

[D]

But they I I don't they need protection.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know I don't, I don't live in the street.

[A]

Badass from my family.

[D]

But my point of it is is that you know I got along with law enforcement. They love chasing me.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

They didn't piss me really Respect.

[B]

You were paying most of them so.

[D]

I know but you know you're just mad because I didn' too.

[C]

I was broke.

[D]

I know but you know that I I. He's saying the truth though. I mean they were harder back then, but they wasn't unaliving people doing all this dumb stuff today. It's got.

[B]

Did you was it not on video?

[D]

It really wasn't. I don't think.

[B]

I don't know man.

[D]

Cops were tougher. They were. No, yeah, maybe but listen that's different but you got to realize cops are whooping ass back then they Would take the off what My friends, that was.

[A]

A jump up boys.

[B]

My friend Pa. That my friend Paul used to say. My late friend Paul, he said that back in those states in Alabama and Arkansas, you're black, they just killed you, tossed you and went to your mom's house, said he joined the war. Man, he died. Like mom didn't even know what happened to her son. So I think back then.

[C]

Is that true?

[B]

I. I would.

[E]

I'm just saying I wouldn't drive through.

[D]

Any of those state.

[C]

And today at all.

[B]

I'm telling you, New Orleans where I was was the worst like racist. I believe it. God, I wouldn't draft you there. I was in conservative. I was in Fort Polk and Pitkin was a town. And when we came out. That sounds racist like a town.

[E]

I would.

[B]

We came out the back gate of. They would throw rocks. They would throw rocks at the military trucks. They hated anything to do with the government.

[C]

Jesus.

[B]

It was. It was the most racist backwards place I've ever set foot in. Was that area of. Jimmy would have shot good time Jimmy.

[C]

Jimmy would have said like hold on, stop. Go back. Let me just get out of the.

[B]

I think back then things were bad in a different bad. I don't think it was what we're seeing now. This is what those kid cops did. Even the cops like you talk about that you were. That were doing what you said they were doing. They ruined it because they were doing it for malicious intent. Back then. They were. They were. I believe they were organized crime cops that were involved in all that stuff. Now they're doing it because crime is rampant and we can't keep up. And they're making poor decisions that are now blasted all over the news and.

[E]

It goes viral instantly.

[D]

Instantly.

[E]

I'll take that video and go crazy.

[B]

I believe back in the 70s, you.

[A]

He said, I'm. I'mma get you.

[B]

Look at what happened.

[C]

For your ass trooper.

[B]

Killing people in your county. He. He's. He went to prisoner. They put him to death recently.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

How long ago?

[B]

He was in the 80s. He was pulling girls over.

[C]

Oh, I saw Netflix.

[D]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold.

[A]

On, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Jimmy's gotta talk.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

Yeah, I don't get to talk.

[C]

You have.

[A]

You talk over me all the time. Does anybody here know who the Canal Killer is?

[E]

Did he kill people in the Canal?

[B]

You.

[A]

No, it's not me.

[D]

Did he serve in Afghanistan?

[A]

No, he served in Iraq. Nobody.

[C]

No, he knew. Kind of.

[D]

Yeah, he served in Afghanistan.

[E]

He knows.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So we were Study criminal.

[A]

We were rolling.

[C]

Or J was just taking a wild shot in the dark.

[A]

Yeah. We were rolling up detainees in Iraq. They had their. Their hands showed up with X spray like they were bad, bad guys. This is the first art in 4th ID. He was killing them and throwing them in the canal. That's how was happening in Iraq in 2006. It was game on. You guys argue all you want about all of this. I'm gonna tell you right now, the. The war In Iraq between 04 and 06 was gangster.

[B]

Yeah. I would think a war was worse than the United States. I would agree.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, like, everywhere.

[A]

So. So, like. I mean, like, I've never been hit with that. You know, the stuff that I'm hearing is like. It's like I'm starting to lose the bubble on it because I'm going like, I. Yeah, okay. Jimmy doesn't have any experience. Yeah. That's because I just kill people. That's all I know how to do as an infantryman. I just kill people.

[D]

Listen, this goes all back.

[A]

I'm. I'm.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

That's where I'm at right now. I'm like it.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Hope nobody steals your groceries.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Call that number.

[A]

I'm smoking.

[C]

I have the Canal Killer here right now. That's where I'm at.

[B]

They won't pick up.

[D]

But, Mike, you know, it goes back to when I was doing prison time. A lot of criminals are always talking about how they feel like cops target them just to get. And set them up and put them on harsher things just to get them to flip on other people. So instead of doing their job as cops, all they do is target certain people and try to. To put as much max pressure on them. To flip them.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

And to roll it down.

[B]

The thing I believe that did happen and I take pride in now I'm out here. Anybody that wants to. I've shown you the message. I'll do a d. I'm do a reel of all the messages I've received since I've been out. Every single person that's messaged me said, you got me fair and square. Ah, you got me fair and square. You, me up. You got me. I was one of the dudes you chased around. Other than the feds, I don't think anybody else. And the crooked cops that tried to set me up, nobody real has a story about me doing anything wrong. And most of the I did wrong, I posted on social media, which was strip clubs and drinking.

[D]

So dancing. You sent them Pictures or something. I did.

[B]

I know.

[D]

I remember.

[B]

I did.

[D]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

I remember that. I remember it now more. It was. I believe the money was on the bar at Cheetah in Palm Beach. There was about a thousand dollars.

[D]

It was a strip club.

[B]

Thousand dollars. It was a thousand dollars. When you said it. I was trying to think because I know.

[E]

Sponsored by Cheetahs.

[B]

I know I didn't post the money on my couch.

[D]

You sent the picture to somebody.

[B]

Okay. I said I remember.

[D]

You know who. I can't.

[B]

You have to tell me. I'll say it now, but I don't remember. And. Oh, I sent it to Bo because Bo was. I don't remember because.

[D]

I'm not saying her name.

[B]

You don't have to say it.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, I did. I did.

[D]

I must say. I'm not gonna get in trouble. I'm not getting in trouble.

[B]

Yep. I did.

[D]

I'm not getting in trouble because you gotta remember. Because all that was going on while I was fighting my case.

[B]

Damn it.

[D]

And the feds were coming and. And she was caught in between both of us.

[A]

Us.

[B]

I do remember Sunday.

[D]

And.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

So they're. The feds are coming to her. Feds are coming to me. They're watching, talking to you. And I listen. I don't know what was going on. I don't know.

[B]

Did she show it to him?

[D]

No. Okay.

[E]

No.

[D]

She never dealt with them because of you.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

But you were coming and hang. Trying to hang out with her. She's representing me. And you were trying to get close to her. But meanwhile, you raided one of my co defendant's houses. You're kind of in my paperwork work. Conflict of interest here. Like. Like we were all like, what the is.

[A]

Nobody knows what you guys are talking about.

[B]

It's a hell of a show.

[D]

Yeah. So let's just say this. I'm indicted by the feds. I'm indicted by the feds. This guy rates. He's on the raids the data. My house is. All our houses get raided. He raids my co. Defendant's house.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Meanwhile, he's cozying up. Friendship wise.

[C]

The truth comes. Friendship wise.

[B]

No.

[E]

Friendship, friendship wise.

[C]

Tonic.

[D]

She was.

[C]

She was lesbian, bro.

[D]

It's not. Not on that level. I'm talking about. This is weird because she's representing me.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

On this big case that he's. Whatever.

[E]

Oh, she's your lawyer, man.

[C]

Yes, Michael.

[E]

I mean, I don't know. I'm putting the dots together.

[D]

Yeah. But hold on. So then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he's Texting her like, hey, like, I need you to meet up with me. Let's hang out, let's talk. Yeah, you know, it's like. And I'm like, I'm right. Hang out with him. I swear to God, dude, this is gonna be problems. Like. And then went. Yeah, went. Met you at Hurricanes and, and talked to you and Hurricanes.

[E]

Another ship club?

[B]

No, no.

[D]

Hurricane wings. And I'm like, shouts out hurricane. So word got back to me that somebody was there. And I'm like, you were gonna tell me? And she's like, well, I can't piss him off. I have to work with these people all the time. So I just went there, you know, just to see what he had to say. And I'm like, sure.

[B]

So she set you up?

[D]

No, she's loyal. No, she didn't set me up. You see where I'm coming from, though? Like, I'm on a live sentence. He's on the thing. Now all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he's wanting to, like, cozy up to my attorney. And, and I'm sitting there scratching my head. Like, now all of a sudden, the guy on my case that's supposedly after me the most is cozying up with my attorney. What the hell? And I kept looking at it.

[B]

Undercover work, man.

[D]

So I was looking at her like, you better not, because just, you know, attorneys flip on you, and I'm just like, are you working for them? Like, what's the deal? Oh, no, I promise you, blah, blah, blah.

[B]

Never said a word.

[D]

And I was like. And every time, every time I got.

[E]

Around her internal beef, right now, she.

[C]

Turned it off at 5 o', clock, turned it on at 501.

[B]

She was actually a prosecutor first, though.

[D]

Yes, she was.

[B]

And I have no beef. I, I, I, I. Now I remember sending the picture, though. But she never said anything. She never said a word. She was very professional. She made maintained 100.

[D]

Well, the feds were coming to the, to the shot her office there and meeting with her. And she wouldn't tell me.

[B]

Everybody was friends with me or knew me, was just. Man, it was all about me. I was like, it's always all about. I was a bad, I was the bad person.

[D]

Hold on, Rob, I want you to think about this. So.

[C]

Going to sue me now.

[A]

Mulligan.

[D]

Okay, Mulligan.

[B]

I'm explaining.

[D]

So you got to think of this way. Now, all of a sudden, Mike, he's on a big Fed case, right? And all of a sudden. But okay, well, you, you played a role in the raid.

[B]

Very little, but Very little.

[D]

Okay, so he surveillanced me for them when they needed something.

[B]

I never followed you.

[D]

You never followed me. But if they asked you for something, you had to take care of it.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Okay. Then all of a sudden, I get indicted. Out of all the people he can, like, go hang out with, guess who he goes hangs out with.

[B]

The lawyer.

[D]

Tell me that doesn't raise a red flag when you're. When you're looking at life as you're looking at life sentence.

[E]

And you.

[D]

This guy right here is. Is. Castle, come on. Come. Just come have a drink with me. And I'm thinking, like, you go have a drink. When.

[B]

I swear to God, she didn't. It would. The. Actually, the time I remember meeting. It was. I think it was on accident. Like, she just showed up there.

[D]

No, she didn't. She went and met you on purpose.

[C]

Hey, nice to meet you.

[B]

We.

[D]

We were trying to dig. See if you would slip and say something. Also, don't think we did it.

[B]

But I didn't.

[D]

You didn't. And. But she would never tell me because she would never tell me what the feds are saying every time they came to her office and. And locked herself in a room with them.

[C]

All right, let's go to another video.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Jimmy's bored, sidetracked.

[A]

I. I. Dude, like, at certain points with the cop, like, my eyes glaze over.

[B]

One episode, that's all he wanted to talk about was Cops dub, which never stopped which day. He hated Cops.

[A]

That one day.

[E]

Every question. That was an interesting day. That was a one off. That was a oneoff. Well, you hate Cops.

[B]

Hey, yo, what the. How that works, huh? You go hit him with a. What the.

[A]

I love this one.

[B]

Oh, hell no. For murder. It's like. Hold on.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[B]

It snaps to him.

[C]

Jason was back this way.

[B]

Y. That's it. It cuts short. I got.

[D]

But me and you would have been in handcuffs right then and there.

[B]

He got arrested.

[D]

Yeah, but here we go.

[E]

The guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, because he. He ran around and chased the guy in the car.

[C]

Probably the most racist I've seen ever. Yeah, but here.

[D]

Here's the problem is this is where another issue that both, like, him hates cops. He or me or you did that, we'd be in handcuffs within minutes.

[B]

Correct.

[D]

As soon as the cop showed up.

[C]

Oh, yeah, Mike. Fist bump.

[D]

Easy.

[C]

We could get away with it. Yeah.

[B]

I could go eat wings and go to the strip club and take pictures, you know, But.

[E]

But speaking since I have two cops here, here's my question. Right? So you're going Somewhere you see a guy, he has a firearm. Why aren't more cops just hitting you with the car? Like not a thing.

[B]

No, that's.

[E]

Should I just don't understand why you'd get out to then engage.

[C]

Run them over. Run them over. Absolutely lethal force.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You got a gun. What's the difference between a gun and a car?

[C]

Yeah, gun or a car is safer.

[B]

Car safer. You're not getting out.

[E]

You break your bones. Well, for the person, I would think it's a little bit safer.

[B]

The only reason not safer is you're remember people miss. So when you're shooting at a small target, you're now shooting at a big target because you're shooting the windshield of a truck or vehicle. Suv. So you're going to get more rounds, I think in a better area and then you got to ricochet. But yes, you should run people over more often.

[E]

Run them over.

[C]

I agree. More of the story.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

You should beat him more.

[B]

There's a couple really cool videos where they do it, but it's make policing great again. It's frowned upon.

[D]

The goon squad in City of Mesa.

[B]

Park rangers could allegedly earn a third.

[D]

As a makeshift reward for gooning.

[E]

What is that?

[D]

A 60 plus page police report alleges that some rangers would go out gooning.

[B]

And they would plan on beating up black people and the homeless. The initial hate I caught because of that. Because I used the word street goon and goons and they.

[E]

That's.

[C]

Have you ever been out gooning all your.

[B]

All year? Yeah.

[C]

What's gooning mean?

[E]

We can't talk about our.

[A]

We can't talk about it on YouTube.

[E]

We're gonna get.

[D]

I thought gooning was just clowning. That's gunning.

[A]

That's gooning.

[E]

It was definitely a token word.

[C]

It might be. Might a token like a.

[E]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

I didn't even say the word.

[A]

In the Internet space. Yes. Okay, right. If you are a person who has a website that starts with of.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Gooning is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Your dick.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, now we can say it before.

[C]

He was being all cool about saying.

[E]

It because like, like you hit up four Tinder dates at the same time. The same time and you're posting on social.

[B]

Yeah. So I use the word like Jerry Worms is a street dude and like people.

[C]

Yeah, we're definitely not people said aha.

[D]

I got him.

[E]

He is racist.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it was. And then there was.

[E]

The lawyer was right.

[B]

It was it in Memphis.

[E]

Some.

[B]

Some police department got jammed up calling themselves the Goon Squad and they were like intentionally going out.

[C]

But I love the. My favorite thing from this is the fact that some dumbass investigator did a 61 page report.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

On the park rangers. That was your app. Hourly taxes. You're going.

[E]

That was my attack.

[D]

Where was this at?

[C]

I don't. It didn't even say. It's better when they're out of contact.

[E]

My medics when I was deployed were the goons. Can't say that now, I guess.

[C]

Yeah, they were there beating their dicks.

[E]

Gooning to all the hijabs.

[C]

Over here.

[E]

You see, that's what I was talking about.

[C]

Trying to get rid of that note.

[A]

Surprised he hasn't smoked yet.

[E]

Oh, that was a good play.

[A]

Oh, that's a good play.

[C]

Did he get him?

[B]

No, that's it.

[C]

Oh, he was close, dude.

[D]

He close, dude. He was get. Hold on to his dreads.

[C]

Oh, man, that would have been. That's like catching a fish. And you're like in the library.

[B]

Was fine.

[E]

Just a dark, dark fish.

[D]

Dude, that's messed up.

[B]

You can say that. You can do it.

[C]

You can. You can bless us.

[A]

Not all of us, but. No, no, no. There's something we can't say.

[C]

If I say something and he goes.

[B]

We'Re good, we're good.

[A]

No, we're trying to get on the radio.

[B]

I think that one sent.

[C]

I love that cop's effort because. And I also love the bad guy's effort. It was.

[E]

The bad guy was solid.

[C]

Overshot.

[D]

Gotta be fair.

[C]

And then he made it to the car just. And he's like, ah.

[E]

He was fighting for his life.

[A]

Car. But that's the game, right?

[D]

You know how I can tell? He's a real rookie. I just been on the hood of the.

[B]

Can't do that. Can't create your own exigency. You gonna shoot him?

[C]

I'm goo.

[D]

I would have honestly running. When he's running in the car right there, dude, there ain't no way I. Okay, let me open the door and get in. I would have got on that. That's what I said. I can tell he's a rookie.

[C]

Pause.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Not the cop. I'm talking about what I'm saying. I'm sitting there watching. I'm like, dude, why is this dude like. What? I've never seen nothing like this.

[E]

Do we know what state that was? No, because here's my thing, right.

[B]

Of chaos.

[E]

This is what I was talking about.

[B]

Yeah, there's a tag in it.

[E]

But my whole thing is. I can't believe the cop didn't Drop him when he started reaching in his pockets.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

To me, that would have been perfect right there. Y. I'd have been like, yep, I saw him reaching his pockets.

[B]

So the Mexican with a rock, no good in the back. Black guy reaching for a gun is good. Back up. Agree.

[D]

Yeah, but they have to prove that he's pulling for a gun. I mean, most. Listen, most cops know that they're grabbing the dope, trying to get rid of it.

[E]

Yeah. But at the end of the day, I mean, the. This is what I always tell people all the time, because I get the race card pulled on me every goddamn day.

[B]

I'm always. Apparently you're.

[A]

Wait, wait. Yeah, that's.

[E]

But when. If you're going to be running from the cops, you're creating your own situation where you're not going home that day.

[B]

No, I agree. 100.

[C]

I agree. You keep putting Mike over here is about to debate you.

[B]

No, I'm not. Jerry Worm says it best. There's no such. There's no police shootings if everybody complies.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Zero.

[E]

That's the problem. Because when you see all these videos with people getting beat up or getting shot, what are they doing? Going crazy.

[C]

There ever. Has there ever been a moment in your career because you're a professional? So I call it a career.

[A]

Professional career.

[B]

You were like.

[C]

You were like, if I get jammed up right now, it's guns blazing. Like right now. Currently, I'm not. I can't get taken. No. Or have you always been like, I'm.

[A]

I might be. I might be.

[D]

You catch me. You catch me.

[C]

Peace upon us.

[D]

I've never said guns blazing. Never even. Because I always knew, like, I'm just gonna do a little prison time. I'm gonna come home, like, why do I want to make it a life sentence? Why I want to. Like, like, why do I want to.

[A]

So more ego driven than the people that do that?

[C]

That's a good question.

[D]

No, it's stupidity.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm gonna be honest with you. It's just they're not thinking. They're just like.

[C]

It's.

[D]

I'm gonna be honest. Most criminals that run like that, it's just a reaction. It's just like. And it's like, come on, dude. Like, what the odds are you getting away? Like, people running on street bikes. I don't care what anybody says. Not many people.

[E]

Those street bikes get.

[B]

Go.

[E]

Some of those street bikes, they be getting out of there. No, I'm assuming they get caught. Yeah, I'm assuming they get caught.

[B]

Georgia, they'll knock you, Georgia wreck you.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I mean, we broke one of those.

[C]

And then they'.

[B]

It's a, it's. That's a, that's a location thing, wherever you're standing, but.

[A]

And they got Florida gator covers, I think.

[E]

I think I kind of.

[B]

And I'm. I don't know how to navigate this culturally. Culturally.

[A]

Let. Let CC Say it.

[B]

Decisions are made differently based on upbringing. Oh, I got something.

[D]

Black people are taught to run. I don't care. Say what you want to say. From all the times I've done in prison, I've been around them.

[C]

Mike was trying. He's staring up going, yeah, like culturally people are faster.

[A]

It's that f. Is that quick twist.

[E]

Their bones are denser.

[B]

I'm not, I'm not even trying to say.

[C]

I would say sometimes cultures are born with better arms.

[B]

Are. There's, there's. Who are all the similarities in the videos where firearms are introduced more often than others.

[E]

I.

[B]

Right. Would you agree?

[A]

Just let CC Go with this man.

[D]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell you this.

[A]

He's not gonna get shot.

[D]

Here's the thing about Mike. Out of all the high speed foot chases, car chases, why haven't you shot anybody?

[B]

I didn't. I never felt I was in the position. He did extra training one, one time I. The close I ever came to shooting, shooting somebody was a guy with a machete and he was on a bike. But in other situations, presented.

[D]

How many times you been run, chasing somebody and they were digging, trying to get the drugs gone, a lot than.

[B]

I was because I had my gun out ready most of the time and I was.

[D]

You knew that they were trying to get away and you knew the majority of time, because you've done it so much, they're trying to throw it and you're right.

[B]

But the problem is the time you're wrong and they turn around and pop you in the.

[D]

Yeah, but that's anything though. You can be on a high chase.

[E]

It's anything.

[D]

Trip and fall and knock your head on something.

[B]

Correct. But I guess you're so. I, I felt like I was able to process the information as I'm running and I was preparing my head.

[A]

No, no, I, I'm, I'm agreeing with you because if you've.

[E]

That's an IQ thing.

[A]

If you've been doing this and you've putting. If you've been thinking about it over and over and you're like, hey, if I get into this situation, what do I need to look for Okay, I know what this looks like, but I know what this looks like. Not only that, and as soon as that happens, it's.

[B]

I know what present this looks like a gun would be versus this trying to get rid of drugs. So that takes.

[E]

That takes. That's iq.

[B]

You're thinking about it because I thought about it a lot of times. I did it a lot of times.

[D]

Faster. I think you like the conflict, though, are smart.

[B]

What do you mean, the conflict?

[D]

Like the whole thing of, like, running them down, tackle them, ruffling them up. I'm gonna be honest with you, that's a thrill.

[B]

Like you can say, I would never run.

[E]

Mike likes to beat him up, but I.

[C]

He likes to have conflict with your lawyer too.

[E]

If the lesbian lawyer.

[B]

She was alleged babe.

[C]

She's a lesbian.

[A]

She was babe.

[E]

She's a lesbian.

[D]

Look at her haircut.

[B]

She. Yeah, she. But. But if you're. Like I said, if you're thinking about that and you're in your car instead of you're on Tick Tock and you're. You're actually gone, this next dude might run. I might have to like, what do I. What am I gonna do? So like that. When you're thinking like that and you're doing it often. Just like the video we watched the other night where I broke it down last night. Two guys get a full pursuit. They shoot the guy. The one guy, y' all sees fire because he's like, his thought process.

[A]

Okay, that's a rage thing.

[B]

He actually says it because he knows this threat is eliminated or down. Let's not.

[E]

Sounds like an army thing.

[C]

Really, it is, but I don't think. I don. Think personally, I remember that video. I remember wanting to say this. I don't think he should be calling ceasefire. That's not your fault. If you want to stop firing, stop firing. But the guy, they don't know what.

[E]

The other guy is seeing.

[C]

They had two or three or four guys, right?

[B]

Yeah, two or three.

[C]

I don't want to be screaming cease fire. While he sees a threat still.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

I mean, but, you know, as an infantry team leader, I absolutely went, cease fire. Cease fire. Cut it out. Cut it out.

[E]

Yeah, because you had two guys with saws smoke in a village in the.

[A]

I had 19 year olds hopped up on energy drinks and.

[D]

Okay, dip, run the statistics on population verse murders in the 80s versus today, and I guarantee there was more murders per cap people back in the 80s.

[E]

It's a certain demographic that's doing the majority of the murders.

[D]

It doesn't Matter, but still the numbers.

[A]

Hold on, say it. What's the demographic?

[D]

No, but that has nothing to do with my conversation percentage board.

[B]

Black.

[C]

Are you Puerto Rican?

[B]

Oh, you're not even black.

[D]

No, they are. They're Indian. Black and latino, so I'm 95.

[E]

Caucasian, but nonetheless.

[C]

Oh, damn it.

[B]

We're screwed.

[D]

Mike.

[A]

Dude, he's basically a caveman.

[D]

What's the numbers? You think.

[B]

You think.

[D]

You're saying there was more murders per Capitol people?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Then. Then there is today.

[B]

Yeah, I would agree.

[D]

In the 80s, okay. Yeah, yeah, you damn right there was. Yeah, I remember get away with it.

[B]

I remember four piers being.

[E]

Yeah, but if you have a palm full of fish.

[B]

No, no, no, we're not doing that.

[D]

So.

[A]

So wait, if you get kicked out.

[D]

Yeah, but hear me out on this. Hear me out on this. I just got pulled over recently, okay? I just got pulled over recently.

[E]

Was it a female cop?

[D]

No, it wasn't. It was a young kid. But my point of it is. No, no, no, no. I'm not going down that road.

[A]

Dude, this guy has so much more experience than that rugged cop.

[D]

I get pulled over by the. This cop, and I swear to you, he like walks up all scared and he's like, hey, can you roll that back window down? And I'm like, I agree with it.

[E]

The hand thing.

[D]

Window down. Like, dude, back in the day, the real cops would come right up, like, hey, license, registration. What the you doing, man? Like, you're speeding back there.

[E]

But listen, body cameras messed that up.

[D]

No, I. I said that too.

[B]

Training. Because when the guy in the back.

[D]

They had balls back then, and they come right up.

[E]

I got something about falls when you.

[B]

Get shot from the guy. The back seat behind tinted windows, and you never see it coming. And I broke down a video where my show got. He got shot because of that scenario.

[D]

That was happening back then. They went and scared.

[B]

No, they got smart. We said, why don't we stop walking in front of tinted windows and tell them to roll them down? You know.

[C]

You are making me agree with Mike. That's how this backwards.

[B]

Because of your criminal mind. And I'm not being serious. Your criminal mind mind is. I know. I'm not doing nothing. Why Just got me rolling my windows down.

[C]

Also.

[E]

Also, why you pulling me over, man?

[C]

And you never had any intentions of killing cops ever.

[B]

But I. When you watch videos and we watch and you actually train and cops watch videos, you see cops get smoked from a tinted window that was rolled up when they never saw the guy in.

[D]

The back seat Sit there, talk to somebody while they're running their IDs and doing something. Grabbing the gun and shooting them that way too, but so it can happen.

[B]

Both minimize your ability to get shot by having the guy roll. And what does that do when you get mad and roll it down. You showed compliance. So now I know you're listening. At least if you say you. Well, now I gotta get window down. But when you go, man, what the, dude? And you roll your window, I go, okay.

[D]

You know, I told him. He's scared of everything.

[B]

Yeah, but that's fine. Now you're interacting with me and we're talking complaints. And your windows down. I know you're at least listening.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I said, don't let the tools hurt you back there, man.

[B]

Go.

[D]

That's perfect.

[B]

With some slick. And say, I bet your construction made no money. I don't think something slick back.

[D]

So.

[B]

So it's like. But it shows at least the initial part of compliance. If you go, you or you stonewall.

[D]

Me now I'm like. I just see a different quality in the cops today. Back in the day. And I'm just. It. It just blows my mind. I'm just like.

[E]

Well, that's why people don't fear cops. And that's why cops take out their gun and they wind up shooting people because they don't fear them. They act stupid and then they get smoked. And now the Internet is crying because another man.

[D]

That's why I said cops need to go back to whooping some ass.

[E]

Yeah. Back in my day when I was in New York, I already knew it was game on. Those cops would punch you in the mouth. Now these kids are New York's finest.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

They got cornrows and they're smoking cigarettes. You want to. With me?

[E]

Black amounts on the. On the steps of some building.

[B]

On the stoop.

[E]

On the stoop. On the stoop. They don't even live in the building.

[B]

What part of New York? Bronx. All right. The boogie. Yeah, that boogie.

[C]

Let's break down one more. We got one more.

[A]

Is this Susie's video? We're finally gonna get to his video.

[C]

I mean, they're in order.

[B]

We already broke them all down. Was yours.

[C]

Now we got one more.

[D]

Is there.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In order. Right.

[B]

Lewis did them all.

[C]

Yeah, way. Which one was ccs?

[B]

I don't know. Maybe. Who knows? Let me make sure I said it.

[D]

Hold on.

[C]

Hey, Lewis, you can you have the authority to fire Mike if I. Bro, that last episode.

[E]

Lewis was giving you guys the business, bro.

[C]

He still did.

[A]

He put Up a thing on screen like, can I please have a Coke?

[B]

I forgot to send this one.

[E]

Send that.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

Okay, Mike, send it on Instagram. Can you at least open it on Instagram?

[B]

Yeah, I can. Hold on.

[D]

Mike, I got a question.

[B]

Go ahead.

[D]

So the constitution says you can carry firearms. You see these videos done all the time, where these guys are carrying open fire, like AR15. Open carry, like AK47s or whatever down the beach with a fishing pole.

[B]

You don't have to have the fishing pole anymore.

[E]

Yeah, that law changed.

[D]

I get it. But I'm saying, you see these videos of that, okay, it's law. And cops still go down there, harass them, and don't know the law. And it's like, I agree. And it's like, come on.

[E]

Like, Mike was talking about that when it first happened that there's a bunch of cops that don't know that the law changed in Florida and somebody's going to do it. They're going to wind up getting hurt.

[A]

Do you know this guy watches the show because he just basically just quoted Mike. He's like, there's a bunch of cops that don't know the law, that are. You're betting your life.

[C]

Because Mike talks a lot knowing that he.

[D]

Yeah, but why don't they automatically have.

[B]

To go back to training, make sense on this show?

[D]

You know, that's the dumb. That.

[E]

But that's the thing that you got to remember, too.

[B]

It's like.

[E]

It's like the auditors, like, especially Long Island Audit, bro. That guy does this crazy job with cops.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's my. That's my man Mike's homeboy.

[E]

Oh, you know that guy. Dude, that guy is dope.

[B]

Trying to get him on the show next.

[E]

But when he says, is that a felony or a misdemeanor? He's smokes them and they can't answer the question.

[B]

Full circle. That's my point is cops. Now if. Here we go. This the whole circle for Jason, too. If a cop can't determine the basic trespassing or if you can have a camera out, you're going to trust that dude to make a decision to pull a gun out and win the shoot when he doesn't even know that you can't record him or can record him or he doesn't know that you're standing on a sidewalk in front of the police department.

[A]

But hold on. Here's the thing.

[E]

What's private property? What is it?

[A]

If that cop unlawfully pulls out a gun, I'm not allowed to Defend myself?

[E]

Oh, no, you're doing life, baby.

[A]

You're doing life.

[C]

There's no unlawfully pulling a gun.

[B]

Well, there is.

[A]

Don't do that.

[B]

It's on the backside.

[C]

Pulling. Pulling a gun. Pulling a gun. I can pull a gun where the I want.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I don't like guys with white shirts. I pulled my gun out. Pointing at you is a different story.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like.

[E]

Oh, there's a word for that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This dude draws down on me like if you were. If you were anybody else, but because you got that badge on.

[C]

If I walk up to a seat.

[B]

And I'm like, all of us.

[C]

I'm looking at everybody, I go. I go, oh, that's probably not good, but did you guys get the joke?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Crap out of the dark chocolate at him.

[B]

Lewis has another video ready. He's not worried about you guys.

[D]

Go ahead.

[B]

Pennsylvania versus Mims says you do.

[C]

You're just going to make this worse. You're 5 seconds.

[B]

Why you doing that?

[D]

You can't do that.

[B]

Oh, my God. Usual suspects.

[A]

He said it. Hey, that was not any of the white guys.

[C]

Wow, bro. She.

[B]

She's crashing out.

[D]

Listen, she just added a couple more charges.

[E]

I was just about to ask that question. How many charges is that racist Word was out.

[B]

It's resisting. It's all one charge. But I mean.

[D]

All right, so obstruction, resisting.

[C]

All right, is it. I just want.

[D]

No, I want to get.

[B]

I know. I was waiting. Okay, so that. Yes. And Pennsylvania vs. Mims. For anybody watching that wants to start problems. A cop can order everybody out of the car for.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

There's no. You cannot sit in your car. Yes. It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

[E]

Stop being an Instagram lawyer.

[D]

Yeah, well, not even that. It's just like, you see these people, they do these prank things and they don't realize it doesn't work for everybody.

[B]

I don't think it's a prank.

[E]

Nah. Some of these people really mean it, but you.

[D]

No, no, I know, but they go out there and they're like. That's like. You're supposed to do this. You see them crack the window and they're like, oh, no, you got to have this, you got to have that. Because they followed somebody on Instagram.

[B]

Well, here's the process. We should still should be smashing windows. Every single, every industry on America should say.

[D]

Because I was always taught, just like everybody else. I mean. And this goes back to why certain people get shot and don't. People are, you know, are trained and Told as kids, when you get pulled over, you comply. You do what they say to do. So I'm a criminal. I've been a criminal my whole life. You know the first thing doing a cosplay over? Yeah, I rolled the window down. I told him, are you scared of them tools? But I rolled it down. But I just said it myself like, God damn, you all became pussies. But I don't go, fuck you. I ain't rolling it down. Because you know what? What, man, I. I don't need no extra free charges. I ain't trying to get free charges and I ain't trying to get a free ride. I ain't trying to get a free meal.

[B]

We went to Jersey City, I talked to a couple of guys up there. You cannot physically remove somebody from a car up there. What it's a use of. It's a whole thing.

[E]

Well, first off, it's Jersey.

[B]

You can do it legally, by the constitution. But up there, somebody says they're not getting out of the car, those dudes go back to their car and they pull away.

[E]

Jersey off.

[B]

There could be a dead body and 10 keys in the trunk. All you gotta do in Jersey is gonna Jersey Cities. Go, I'm not getting out. You go.

[E]

Anybody know the crime rate in New Jersey?

[B]

They have like a 40 page use of force policy. You can touch anybody.

[D]

But you see where I'm coming from? I. I wish I was a criminal today.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Well, go to Jersey, you just fine, bro.

[D]

You know, I get life, I get.

[B]

You can't do it.

[E]

As long as you're not in Grady's county, you'll be all right.

[B]

15 was okay life, wasn't it?

[D]

I was lucky to get that. I know.

[B]

One tv, one more video. Lewis, right? There's two in there.

[C]

Oh, you sent two.

[B]

Yeah, there's one more cop bill. There's one next to it or behind it or somewhere there, look, that's me right there. No, no, below it. There's another one. I don't know how you see it. I sent two. Yeah, they're there. Promise?

[E]

He promises.

[B]

If you look. Yeah, Louis, there's another one right below it.

[E]

You're making Puerto Ricans look bad, bro.

[B]

Send it by itself.

[E]

Oh, no, hold on.

[A]

He did not give a. Dude, they.

[D]

Were the biggest indictments I ever seen out of Puerto Rico.

[E]

Oh, it's open on the. Which one? Which, which one of a 100.

[D]

That happened every day, man. Listen, everyone.

[B]

Here'S one more last video. This one escalates quickly.

[C]

Jordan.

[D]

Paintball game Crash out.

[B]

You decided it was crazy.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Suicide by cop.

[C]

He pulled a gun.

[B]

Yeah, he had a gun behind his back, screaming and yelling. They're telling him, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. And he did it.

[C]

Oh, that's. Man, that sucks.

[A]

He caught at least 15 rounds.

[C]

Everything, minimum.

[B]

Away we go.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So do all those cops just go back on shift after that? Like lunch.

[C]

That whole city shut down.

[A]

If you're crazy, if you're po. Cow.

[D]

See, that's the part of the job. That's the part of job I want in somebody's life because I want to end. Listen, I don't have a problem unaliving somebody like it wouldn't really affect me.

[B]

But that would one of the best.

[D]

I swear to God, that would end up.

[C]

I think you're a human being.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

One of my favorite calls ever was very right near the end before I came off the road was kid and Gifford barricaded me and Lt. Matheson talked him out. Should have been on every TV show ever, the way we communicated. But because. Because we were using swear words kind of. In the hood, you kind of talk a little different.

[E]

Hey, man.

[B]

We were cussing and hey. And I knew the guy. He was like. I only talked to Dills. And we got him out. He was threatened. I got a gun. I'm gonna pop out in the hallway. The whole thing on and on. Talked him out, laid him down, cuffed him, drove him away. And because we swore a few times on video, the agency decided not to put it up. And the irony was that's the problem, buddy. His. His mom is Breonna Taylor's aunt, who we national news. So I thought what a better scenario to show the community was here is a relative of somebody who was shot by us that we called all that flack over. And here is two cops that have worked at neighborhood their entire careers that talk this kid out.

[E]

Wasn't that justified, though. Wasn't the Brianna thing.

[A]

But here's the thing. You weren't. You weren't cussing. You were talking in the language that was understood communication. That's. That's what I'm saying. That's verbal jiu jitsu.

[B]

I. I immediately said this. Be on every TV show everywhere. Beep it out. Beep it out. Here's two cops that are called racist all the time, white guys and gift for all this stuff that there's no. And actually I got a text from an officer who. It was being recorded. It was all on Facebook who said Text the sheriff directly and said, you need to give those guys an award. They didn't actually.

[E]

Did you get the award?

[B]

No, I got demoted. Couple months later I got demoted because.

[D]

He wouldn't take bribes.

[A]

Good cops.

[E]

You should have just took the 100.

[A]

Bro cops and good enlisted soldiers.

[D]

Yeah, no, you never get anywhere.

[B]

I don't talk about a lot of stuff I did because it seemed like that. That is one. That's not a use of force. That's not a cool story. That's gonna really green check. But that is something that should be put out. It's proper technique should be put out. Like, hey, here is a community. Here's a person that was their relative was killed by the police. Here's an interaction with the police where it ended very peacefully. That should be highlighted. That's of all the things I did. That's one of my ones I wish would have got highlighted, but because it had nothing to do with me, it had to do with the way things were handled and the fact that the community was happy with the outcome. But of course, my ass. Old agency.

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

But you said swear words.

[D]

You didn't fit the quality of the cop in our town. Like I grew up with some badasses and.

[E]

You love those.

[D]

Cool. They're like, we're all drug smugglers back in the 80s. They all got paid off in the 90s. Yeah, I mean, you, you've heard the stories.

[B]

Not one of them was my boss.

[D]

Old school gangsters, I mean, were something serious back then.

[B]

I know they were. I know they were.

[E]

Those old school cops will put it on you quick.

[D]

Yeah, they were tough. They fight and everything.

[E]

Those were the jump out boys back in the day. Yeah, but they weren't shooting people.

[D]

No, they were.

[A]

They're just gonna beat your ass.

[D]

You touched one, you're gonna touch one. You had to fight all of them.

[A]

You were gonna catch an ass whooping and you were gonna go to jail.

[C]

Hey, can you guys see the tv?

[B]

Kinda.

[C]

All right, this is where. This is the part of the show. We end it. We got to bring it back where we engage with, with the audience. Oh yeah, they can if you guys are done. They usually talk amongst themselves and don't listen to us at all. But this is a time where.

[B]

All right, we're gonna read somebody's designated comment reader.

[C]

I can't see that far. I got, I'm the dj. I can see music.

[B]

Oh, no, no.

[E]

Before.

[B]

I got one other thing we got to do. I got one other thing.

[C]

We got to do.

[B]

Come on, Lewis, let's go.

[C]

What are you doing?

[B]

Lewis is going to show us his skill.

[D]

The chair.

[B]

Do I have to mix it up or. You mix it up.

[E]

Oh, I want to see this.

[C]

All right, all right, all right, let's go. Lewis is in a Rubik. What's it called? In a Rubik's Cube. Is it a Rubix or Rubik not And. Ah, yeah, a Rubik.

[B]

A Rubik's Cube.

[C]

All right, it's all messed up. All right, show. No, go walk up. Go walk up to that camera right there. No.

[E]

Let's go, Lewis.

[D]

Mike, show it.

[C]

No, show the camera.

[B]

It's all messed up.

[D]

All right.

[C]

It's all messed up. You broke it in my toy.

[E]

It's over. It's under here? Yeah, it's right on there. Right under the chair.

[C]

Now switch cameras so it's on. Lewis. So you're gonna have to click.

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

He can't do it.

[E]

You take your headphones off so you don't.

[B]

You got it. I know.

[E]

It went under there for sure.

[B]

I saw it.

[C]

I mean, I guess I could move. I don't know.

[B]

No, you can stay there.

[C]

All right, you got the camera on this. We're gonna time it. Lewis likes to time us, but Lewis, don't start yet.

[B]

I'll buy another one. Lewis, I'm sorry.

[C]

Nah, you're good. He's like, nah, you're good.

[A]

I have this up before.

[B]

Yeah, he's gonna.

[D]

All right.

[E]

Lewis ain't coming back.

[C]

Yeah, you broke your toy, bro.

[B]

You know it's red. Does that help?

[C]

All right, all right. Ready?

[B]

All right.

[C]

All right, Lois, you. Oh, wait, I got a calculator.

[E]

Lois, put the bets on in the chat. Put the bets in the chat.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, super chat. Your.

[C]

How long is it going to take, Louis?

[E]

Super chat. The time.

[C]

This is a completely messed up Rubik's cube. All right, Lewis is gonna.

[B]

Somebody wants to know if he's faster than Clint. Thirteen seconds. Hear me, Louis? Is my mic on?

[A]

Yeah, you're good? Yeah, we can hear you.

[D]

All right, are you ready?

[C]

On your mark, get set. God damn.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

11 and a half seconds.

[E]

It's done.

[B]

Whoa. That's our producer. 11 and a half.

[C]

Wow. Except when we're like, lewis, click the link.

[B]

Click the link. Interesting.

[C]

Good job. Job, dude, I could do better. Yeah, you can do. You got five seconds once, right.

[E]

Nicholas White was the closest. The closest time.

[C]

Get it?

[A]

That was witchcraft.

[B]

Somebody said eleven and a half. Put music on.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I got it.

[B]

I got.

[A]

Give that cube to someone. Hey, cc, Mix that cube up. Mix that cube up. Mix that cube up for him.

[B]

I'll read the comments. Double Y, Dan. That's a. That's Witchcraft draft. That's. Give the queue to someone else. Have them mix it up. He's doing it right now. This guy gets. Yeah. Ready? It's.

[E]

I feel like it's pretty mixed up. Put a super chat in the. In the comments, guys.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't see one. Super chat.

[E]

Super chat the comments. Bet the time.

[A]

Oh, we're gonna give you. We're gonna give you 30 seconds. Put your super chats in. Come on, boys.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

Oh, boy.

[B]

Hold on. Oh, boy.

[D]

He said take some parts off of it.

[B]

Take some parts off first. I tried to break it. That didn't work. We already together.

[A]

Double wide.

[B]

Double wide. That's not super chat.

[A]

Double wide. You're. That's not a super chat dog.

[B]

Yeah. You got to charge those things, man.

[E]

Ah, Lewis didn't charge it.

[B]

No, that's not his job. Watch your car bit. Lewis. Be careful. All right. Lewis's only job is to be here at 8:30, 10:30, and 7:30.

[C]

Y.

[B]

All right, we got seven seconds. Doesn't count. 13.8. Doesn't count. I don't see one super chat. You guys are all fired.

[E]

Hold on.

[B]

Oh, boy. All right, mix up enough for a while. It's gonna take about a week. All right. How long do you need to look at it, Lewis?

[E]

15 seconds.

[B]

All right, 15 seconds to look at it. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children, Jesse James, the battle. Lose the outlaw. All right, ready?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Timing it. I got it. I got it. I got it.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

I got a headset. You mark?

[C]

You set? Go.

[B]

Lewis. Lewis.

[A]

Somebody throw some distractionary blows.

[D]

Brady.

[C]

Ten and a half.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

You shaved the second half.

[B]

And that was mixed up by an independent Puerto Rican in the National Guard.

[A]

In the National Guard, yeah.

[B]

Real soldiers. Lewis, you're dead. I got. I'll produce the rest of the night. You're good. Come on. L. Tell us about yourself. I'm good at cubes.

[E]

What's your favorite color?

[B]

Favorite color blue. Favorite food? This is the brains behind antihero. When everything's going sideways, Lewis very slowly, when the chaos is happening.

[D]

Interesting.

[B]

Pushes two buttons and unfucks Tyler's mess ups. And Tyler gets happy again. And it's all.

[E]

So did Tyler make it fuzzy this morning?

[B]

I don't know. That was Lewis's fault. The best was he was given, like, his first direct. His first direct order by Tyler and he was like, we'll do that next time. Ignored all of it. So it's just. He was.

[C]

For the vfw, where I. I mean, I'll post it because it's funny. I look like a dick, but, like.

[B]

You always look like a was.

[C]

Lewis was helping with. With the mic, and I don't know, he walked up to the BFW lady, and I'm like, lewis, the camera. And he looks and he's like, okay. And I'm like, no, you're on the camera. Like, I meant, like, you're manning the camera. And Lewis looked at the camera and goes. And I'm like, you're on the chair. Teboo.

[A]

Jamie.

[E]

Timo, Jamie is a crazy comment.

[B]

Jamie. Interesting.

[A]

Hey, Jimmy, pull it out.

[B]

Trains. What did I win? Brady, what did you win? What are we doing?

[E]

I'll send you a sweater, baby.

[D]

There you go.

[B]

He's gonna send you an old sweater from his closet. Yep. It's kind of crinkly, so be careful. It's a little crunchy. It was used for something. Timo, Jamie is a legend. What? We got 1002. We're late. We're gonna wrap it up.

[C]

One more song.

[B]

One more song. Just one of those days.

[C]

Unless everybody wants to stop commenting, then we'll.

[B]

Yeah, we just. Everybody stop commenting at once. We're just here.

[C]

Are you all done?

[B]

It stands by itself. Yep.

[C]

Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting.

[B]

Lewis is a glue, man. He holds it together. They're not done. We got that.

[E]

Did you see Brady? Did they stand up by itself?

[B]

Yeah. Make dessert. Queens. Women again.

[C]

What the hell is a desert queen?

[B]

What's a desert queen?

[A]

You don't know what a desert queen is? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's. That's the females that are on the fob.

[E]

Oh, God.

[B]

Like a.

[A]

No, no, no. Yeah, but when you're on deployment, right? You know, when you go back to the big fob, right?

[B]

Yeah, Right.

[A]

You got the females that. Aj, cbku, turn in your FOB tier as.

[E]

Oh, wait, wait, hold on. I got something on that, bro. You guys on Reddit.

[D]

I went down there.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I went down that rabbit hole today.

[D]

Us.

[E]

You guys. Anti hero podcast on Reddit.

[C]

We're the broadcast. You need to look that up on, bro.

[E]

I saw somebody commenting, and they were like. They were talking about you guys and tier one and all that. And then somebody in the chat. Chat said, well, we're all losers because none of us were even in the military. And everybody was like, yeah, fair point.

[B]

Like. And subscribe.

[E]

Like, Reddit is a rabbit hole.

[A]

I, I. Dude, my wife doesn't even want to go on Reddit. She's like, I, I don't even want to go.

[E]

Well, you guys showed my video that I made about the Reddit. About Reddit.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[E]

Where the guy, the guy on Reddit is over here pretty much going against his, his oath in the military to go against what they're doing. That was the first in Chicago.

[A]

That was our first video.

[E]

And that's how this all started. Yeah.

[A]

And I, I came to you, I was like, hey, bro. Yeah, Video. Hey, just let you know. You were like, hey, thanks, man. And then it just became a thing.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's kind of wild.

[E]

Nobody else caught on to that, right? Yeah. Like, like, why is that guy not in jail?

[A]

Yeah, because he's a politician also. No, no, no. He is. The guy that made that video was like, hey, don't follow that order.

[E]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about the video where I, where I, I literally screen recorded the whole Reddit thread.

[C]

There's so many branches. There's so many branches of service in here. Talking about what they call the women in their branch.

[A]

No.

[D]

No way.

[C]

Like, what someone's saying.

[A]

Dude, dude, like, Reddit is donkeys. Because I was out, I was out stationed in Hawaii. So, like, all four branches are out there in Hawaii enjoying it.

[B]

So you're like, man, le. Spotlight.

[D]

Make a comment.

[E]

Lewis, make a comment.

[A]

Yeah, Lewis.

[E]

Beside.

[A]

Interesting. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Not.

[A]

No, no, le. No. Dude, we got. We got crosshairs. You tracking? All right, good to go.

[B]

Done. We good?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Have a good night.

[D]

Take care.

[A]

Hey, boys.

[B]

Mike the producer. We're out.

[A]

Welcome to the Night Shift. It.