The Night Shift (11/6/2025): Also Dick Cheney...

Summary

The Antihero Broadcast – The Night Shift (11/6/2025): "Also Dick Cheney..."

Date: November 7, 2025
Host(s): The Antihero Podcast Team
Special Guests: K9 from Counterculture Sports, Dom Izzo, two U.S. Marines & law enforcement veterans

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Night Shift dives into current events affecting veterans, first responders, and law enforcement, blending serious commentary on mental health, brotherhood, and leadership with the group's signature irreverence and banter. Key topics include the tragic death of NFL player Marshawn Neyland, the role of influencers in police culture, military experiences, law enforcement training, and the legacy of Dick Cheney in recent U.S. history. The episode also offers real talk about life after service, the pressures of policing, and a spirited debate on space exploration.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Debate: Are Puerto Ricans Hispanic?

[00:09 - 03:00]

• The team opens with lighthearted banter debating identity terms. Is Puerto Rican its own thing, or is it Hispanic?
  • "Lewis, our producer, is Puerto Rican. And I'm like, yeah, he's Hispanic. And Mike said, no, like, said he's not Puerto Rican." – B ([01:09])
  • The group teases and ultimately acknowledges that the broader label "Hispanic" includes Puerto Ricans, but origins matter for context.

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2. NFL Tragedy & Mental Health in First Responders

[04:21 - 11:00]

• K9 from Counterculture Sports shares an emotional update on Dallas Cowboys player Marshawn Neyland, who took his own life days after a career highlight.
  • “Three nights ago, Marshawn actually scored a touchdown... he was more of a special teams guy.” – D ([04:23])
  • The discussion turns to mental health in public professions and the silent pressures faced even during apparent success.
  • “That should show what the issue of mental health is... someone's at a career high point.” – B ([05:18])
• Polk County (FL) ties and personal accounts of how law enforcement deals with stress and loss.

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3. Media, Cops, and 'Tokenization' in the Conservative Space

[17:07 - 29:45]

• Dom Izzo calls in for a passionate critique of influencer cop “Tatum”—referring to accusations of racism, performative politics, and lack of real-world police expertise.
  • "He’s the quintessential token Negro of the conservative party. They put him in place..." – E ([18:46])
  • Comparison to other “copfluencers” like Donut Operator.
  • Frustration that large platforms often ignore real causes (e.g., the case of Officer Saladradi in NJ).
  • The group reflects on the disconnect between online personas and on-the-ground experience.
  • Repeat theme: If you brand yourself as a cop, use your platform to support real cops.

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4. Brotherhood, Departures, and Cop/Military Mental Health

[33:35 - 44:54]

• Two Marine Corps veterans join to share transition stories:
  • The challenges of finding community after the service, losing a parent on the job, and dealing with compounding stress.
  • “...I was a cop and that led to my years of alcoholism.” – A ([39:59])
  • Discussion of the unique mental toll on first responders vs. military combat vets.

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5. Dog Training and Service Animal Talk

[44:19 - 49:09]

• A guest with a K9 training background describes how military and law enforcement dogs are selected and trained, what makes a good K9, and wild deployment stories.

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6. Cop Training, Street Stops, and Real-World Tactics

[54:32 - 74:51]

• Several raw and instructive police bodycam videos are reviewed and analyzed, highlighting:
  • Gunfight survival and the difference between well-trained and under-trained officers.
  • The importance of mindset, tactics, and learning from experience.
  • "Standard traffic stops," complacency, and why proactive policing matters.
  • “If you get complacent... that would tell me if they’re a good cop.” – A ([61:00])
• The camaraderie and R-rated gallows humor provide context for why these discussions matter.

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7. Military Service, Iraq Debates, and Dick Cheney’s Legacy

[87:44 - 92:12]

• The team reacts to Dick Cheney’s death with frank, raw commentary.
  • "Dick Cheney was...more than happy to send my ass and this guy's ass and this guy's ass..." – C ([88:13])
  • Candid views on how the Iraq war profited contractors (but not those who served).
  • "Dick Cheney, I hope you burn in hell. Clip that." – C ([90:10])
• Smedley Butler’s “War is a Racket” and the corruption of military-industrial policy are discussed.

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8. Firefighters Now Face the Body/Drive Cam Dilemma

[111:06 - 114:01]

• Firefighters are now being disciplined via in-vehicle AI monitoring systems—mirroring prior trends in law enforcement.
• Debate over balancing rapid response and administrative caution; phrase “paper before people.”

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9. Moon Landing: Real or Faked?

[122:35 - 124:32]

• A recurring segment: Did we land on the moon?
  • “You really are just taking it relive. I'm over here opening my soul and you're like...” – C ([124:00])
  • The team needles each other over conspiracy theories and family bonding.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mental Health and Appearance vs. Reality:
  • "You never really know...we look at these people and wish we had their lives, but we don’t honestly know what they’re going through." – D ([05:45])
• On Policing and Social Media:
  • "If your brand is that you’re a cop, then support cops, man." – C ([23:42])
• On Military Service and Sacrifice:
  • "We went into Iraq...as a 19-year-old private first class, I was a true believer...by 2005, as a jaded corporal, I was like, this is all..." – C ([88:48])
  • "Dick Cheney, I hope you burn in hell. Clip that." – C ([90:10])
• On Everyday Life as a Cop:
  • "If you drive...you can’t do anything right." – A ([113:12])
• Roosevelt Quote Reading:
  • "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles...credit belongs to the man actually in the arena..." – C, reading Roosevelt’s “Man in the Arena” ([117:31])
• Closing Remarks on Community:
  • “The culture that we have here...has changed considerably within the last six weeks...the big reason for that is the people in those comments.” – C ([131:44])

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Timestamp Guide to Important Segments

| Topic / Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|------------------| | Puerto Rican/Hispanic debate | 00:09 – 03:00 | | NFL Marshawn Neyland Suicide | 04:21 – 11:00 | | Copfluencers & Online Police Culture | 17:07 – 29:45 | | Brotherhood, Loss, Mental Health | 33:35 – 44:54 | | K9 Training & Stories | 44:19 – 49:09 | | Police Tactics Video Breakdowns | 54:32 – 74:51 | | Dick Cheney’s Death & Iraq War | 87:44 – 92:12 | | Firefighters Face Drive Cam | 111:06 – 114:01 | | Roosevelt “Man in the Arena” | 117:31 (quote) | | Moon Landing Debate | 122:35 – 124:32 | | Closing/Culture Appreciation | 131:44 – 132:18 |

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Tone and Language

The show’s tone is brash, raw, and peppered with in-group jokes, military and law enforcement jargon, F-bombs, and gallows humor. The hosts blend candid vulnerability—around mental health, personal loss, and professional disappointment—with the kind of brotherly ball-busting and shared history that comes from years in service. Despite the banter, the heart of the show is deeply pro-veteran, supportive of first responders, and unfiltered about institutional failures and toxic leadership.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a vivid snapshot of post-service camaraderie and the often harsh realities faced by those who serve—on the battlefield, the streets, or in the national conversation. Topics move between deeply serious and outlandishly funny, but the through-line is a sense of loyalty, realism, and refusal to sugarcoat the truth.

For listeners new to the broadcast, this episode serves as both a primer on the show’s ethos and a reminder of the enduring challenges—and humor—that define the veteran and first responder communities.

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Key Takeaway:

“Credit belongs to the man actually in the arena…but who does actually strive to do the deeds…who strives valiantly.” – Roosevelt, as read by C ([117:31])

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the Night Shift.

[B]

Welcome back to another the Night Shift. Thursday nights for the boys and for the walking dead out there. I'm one of them on the night shift.

[A]

Here we are.

[B]

So we're. We're waiting on two more. Two more Marines.

[A]

Two more in studio. We got two guests on lined up. We got a good show tonight.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And we were worried it was going to be like, oh, it's just going to be the three of us. Like, that's not what happened.

[B]

No, never is. Good topic of the night, though. Well, not topic of the night. Are Puerto Ricans Hispanic? Lewis, our producer, is Puerto Rican. And I'm like, yeah, he's Hispanic. And Mike said, no, like, said he's not Puerto Rican.

[A]

Like, no, he's. No, he's Puerto Rican.

[B]

Lewis, are you Hispanic?

[D]

Yep.

[A]

That's a fact.

[B]

Okay, but he's Puerto Rican. He's.

[A]

If. Okay, so when you say Hispanic, that sounds like a broad group of people. So if I ask you a question, like, I'm being like, what is your back.

[C]

What would you put him in a police report if. If he was running away?

[A]

That's. That's in a police report. Because I'm.

[E]

That.

[A]

That's a generalized police report. I'm asking him a conversation piece like, where are you from?

[C]

I see where you're going.

[A]

I want to know, like, where we.

[B]

I feel like is a married fight. Because now you're backtracking.

[A]

No, I'm not.

[B]

Because I said. So you're saying Puerto Ricans aren't Hispanic.

[A]

Yes, I what? Did you hear what I asked him? I said, what's your ethnic background? Hispanic is a lot.

[B]

But then you said, puerto Ricans aren't Hispanic. They're Puerto Rican.

[E]

He's.

[A]

When I asked that question, he's Puerto Rican. That's what he should say. He shouldn't say.

[B]

That's like saying, no, but Irish people are white.

[A]

That's right. I just got called a racist by a attorney back on back home. So that'll be an interesting clip when I clip that later.

[C]

Well, I mean, all we're doing is for. Interesting. Trying to find out. Interesting, interesting.

[A]

Yeah, I get that. I get he is Hispanic in that broad sense. I was asking him a specific.

[C]

I gotcha. Yeah, like, I mean, like, I don't know, man.

[A]

It could be Mexican. You may say Hispanic.

[B]

They are.

[A]

But I'm saying I wanted to know where he's from, not like. Like Lake Mary. I want to know.

[C]

Okay, okay, okay.

[A]

So, okay.

[C]

Wants to know the origin.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

That's why I wanted to know. I wanted to know, man. So you want to bring. One of the stories we broke today was the Dallas Cowboys.

[B]

What's his name? Marshawn Nealand.

[A]

Yeah, we got canine from canine sports here. Who's gonna.

[B]

Counterculture sports.

[A]

Canine sports. Counterculture sports. Canine from counterculture. He's not Hispanic. He's Greek.

[B]

Oh, I thought he was Hispanic.

[C]

Yeah, you can bring him in.

[B]

He's, like, white Hispanic.

[C]

Cc's a Puerto Rican, too.

[A]

There he is. Let's hear it.

[D]

Yo.

[A]

Are you talking?

[D]

Yeah, I'm talking. Can you hear me?

[A]

Oh, man.

[D]

Hold on. Oh, that's.

[A]

Yeah. 30 minutes to get ready. Lewis is Lewis's fault.

[E]

Go ahead.

[D]

I keep forgetting.

[A]

Are you there?

[D]

Can you guys hear me now?

[A]

We can. The Hispanic messed everything up.

[B]

The Lewis's. Lewis's line is for the computer. So if there's a guest on remote. Lewis can't talk, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

The sixth line.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

He can't talk.

[B]

Not when there's a somebody remote.

[A]

You have to send us signs again.

[C]

Last.

[A]

If those weren't here last week, Lewis was thirsty. Instead of just asking for a drink.

[B]

Or going and getting.

[A]

He put up on the screen, mean, I need water. And I was like, he's got his soda tonight. So canine, can you give us. Break us up to speed on that?

[B]

There's got to be updates.

[A]

That story.

[D]

Yeah, so there's been a lot of updates. A lot has happened. First off, let me start off by saying I want to send my condolences to the Neyland family. Obviously, a tragic incident happened today. Um, definitely don't like hearing things like that. Somebody taking their own life. But before we get into the depressing stuff, man, let's just bring up. It was only three nights ago that Marshawn actually scored a touchdown. I saw that in a Monday Night Football game against the Arizona Cardinals. He picked up a block punt and ran it for a touchdown. So he had a career night, you know, Monday night. Something that he was never really close to having. He was more of a special teams guy.

[C]

So I was gonna ask. He's a special teamer, right?

[D]

Yeah, he was more of a special teams guy. So for him to score a touchdown three nights ago, I mean, that was epic. So it's just. It's kind of crazy. All of this happened after something like that.

[B]

So obviously, that should show what the. The issue of mental health is that, yeah, someone's at a career high point.

[A]

Three days, you have no idea what's.

[B]

Going on, and something like that can happen. I mean, you're a special teams guy. Your second season in the NFL and you score a touchdown on Monday Night Football. That's big. And usually if there's nothing going on, mentally, someone's gonna. That. That feeling is going to last for a little bit.

[D]

Yeah. 100. I mean, just like you said, that goes to show you, you never really know. Like, these guys could have it all. They could be NFL players. It could be scoring touchdowns. And, you know, mentally, they might not be right. And things like this could happen. It could. It could be happening to anybody. You know, we look at these people and wish we had their lives, but we don't honestly know what they're going through.

[C]

So do we have any information on. On what was going on?

[D]

So let's get into the depressing stuff. So he was pronounced dead this morning. His cause of death was said to be from an inflicted gunshot wound. He was in a police chase for a traffic violation by the Frisco Police Department. He got away from them. They couldn't find him. They tried to stop him. He wouldn't stop. They lost sight of the car. Then they finally found the car. He wasn't in the car. So they searched the areas. They had canine cops, drones. They had everything out there. They couldn't find them. Then they got a tip that came in that he was apparently suicidal. Now, the tip came from his girlfriend, Catalina. She ended up calling 911 from her house saying that he sent her a text message saying that he's gonna end it all. He was sending text messages to his family saying goodbye. You know, just random things that were obviously depressing. And he's had a past with mental health issues and being suicidal and depression. So they were obviously worried. The cops went to the house to do a wellness check. Nobody answered the door. Nobody was there. So then they go back searching for him. They're continuing to search for him. They find the car. The car looks like it was in a car accident. He's not in the car. They start searching the area again, and they found him dead, which it looked like he shot himself in the head.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, that's. And like you said, like, everybody looks at these guys like they have the greatest life and, you know, not to compare it all, but being on tv, being on pod, like pockets, putting yourself in the light of that much pressure on TV plays. Everybody's watching every move, everything you do on and off the field. Then you have probably personal issues at home. Family fights, all that stuff they're dealing with, they got to be a Practice they have, their lives are controlled the whole season. So you start to think about that and it is depressing to think how much stress and pressure those guys are under constantly.

[C]

I mean, he was still on his rookie contract, right?

[D]

Yeah, this was, he was a second round pick last year. Didn't really get much playing time his rookie year. This year he actually got a sack week one against Jalen Hurts. So that was a highlight for him. He was a pass rusher, but for the most part he was more of a special teams guy. And the highlight of his career was three nights ago, Monday night, where he scored a touchdown on a block punt.

[C]

Yeah, I mean that's a crazy. God, God only knows what, what he would have been with another year in the league. I mean, for all we know, he would have been, you know, one of the weapons up there up front going into, you know, his third or fourth season.

[A]

Yeah, that's tough. And then you get like the CTE stuff that comes out, the concussions, the, the, you know, the mental health everywhere and it's, it's, it's everywhere. It's everywhere. It's a problem.

[C]

And what did the, what did the Cowboys say? Canine?

[D]

They haven't said too much yet. They just pretty much, you know, said that, you know, it was a shame that it happened. I don't have the exact quote, to be honest with you, written down. So like that said too much yet.

[C]

So they, I mean like there hasn't.

[D]

Been kind of asking for privacy and kind of want to deal with this and kind of figure everything out first.

[C]

Well, I mean a lot of the.

[D]

Information has already went public, obviously, but it seems like more information keeps coming out every couple hours.

[C]

But when's the next press conference with the coach?

[D]

I honestly don't know. I don't know.

[A]

What are the winning lottery numbers tomorrow?

[D]

Yeah, I'm sure Jerry's gonna be making an appearance tomorrow. 100. He's, he's always on the radio anyway, so he's definitely gonna make an appearance tomorrow.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, once the, once the head coach does a friggin press conference, like, you know, that's going to be like question one. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, you can't avoid that.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, let's remember this is the Cowboys and the head coach doesn't really do much of the talking. It's going to be Jerry. It's going to be Jerry.

[B]

That's a good point.

[D]

Doing all the talking.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, we're waiting for, we're waiting for Jerry to kick off. So the Cowboys Will actually be good again.

[B]

Are you, are you going to cover, are you going to cover any of this to Monday? Are you just gonna stick to sports?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely gonna bring this up Monday because I have a feeling that more information is going to come out and maybe more of the story will be out by then. Monday night at 7:00pm Eastern, Counterculture Sports. Every Monday we're live on the counterculture YouTube. So I'll have more information then. This is all still pretty fresh and information's coming out every couple hours, different stuff. But we're also going to break down everything else that happened in sports too. So not just this stuff, but who.

[C]

You got, Broncos or Raiders? Broncos.

[A]

Broncos.

[C]

God damn.

[B]

Broncos are Raiders.

[C]

Broncos or Raiders? Try to say that fast. It's hard.

[A]

Broncos are Raiders.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Broncos are Raiders. Broncos are Raiders.

[C]

Shut up, you.

[A]

It's in the cup over there.

[C]

Yeah, booze.

[A]

Who you got?

[C]

Who you got? Oh, is he froze?

[A]

Froze.

[C]

He's froze. Don't do this.

[A]

Not the lock of the week.

[B]

We're not froze, right?

[A]

No. All right, you can dump him. He's out.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Seven o', clock. We'll find out. We'll get his pick. We'll put it in here. You can remove him, Lewis. Thank you.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

Bye. Canine.

[A]

Yeah, all right. All right. There's that.

[B]

Do we pay the Internet bill?

[A]

I hope so. I paid a big bill today.

[C]

We're still live.

[A]

I paid a massive bill today. We got some. If you guys are not part of our Patreon, make sure you join Patreon. We are. I was live on there twice today. We're live tomorrow. Tomorrow, 3 o', clock, 1 o', clock, 2 o'. Clock. 2 o' clock tomorrow, live on Patreon. I'm tired. 2 o' clock tomorrow on Patreon. And then Saturday night, exclusive only on Patreon. There will be a. A secret live event that will be broadcasting just a Patreon 8O'. Clock. So please join our Patreon. Get involved. And we also have some other announcements we're going to make on there tomorrow about some sponsor stuff and some scuttle butt that's going around the Internet.

[C]

So yeah, we got the. We got the room mint.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's not roommate.

[F]

Not really.

[A]

Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna break everything in Patreon for any, any decisions about anti hero or counterculture will be broke in Patreon.

[B]

Yeah, we'll even talk. We want to talk about having this morning with the transfer. Yeah, we're pretty open.

[A]

So Patreon, we talked about it this morning. I. I officially became.

[B]

Or. Or. Or don't wait for Patreon.

[A]

Okay. I officially became in this chair. We're going to talk about it on Patreon. What happened today? Look at this vein I got right here. I joined Planet Fitness today.

[B]

That was the big transaction.

[A]

That was a big transaction. I joined a $25 black membership at. Because the.

[C]

I ain't got to be black. It's always got to be black.

[A]

I just got called a racist on fa. It's pissed me off. A local attorney that has no idea what he's about to do deal with because I posted something about mom dummy. I got called a racist. And I said, obviously maybe he doesn't know I don't work anymore and I can fire up on his ass, but you can't just call people racist. And he's going to find out when I get home.

[C]

Hey, man. Dude, dude. I get home around.

[A]

No, just. You can't call people rate. You can't use these terms generically and. And throw especially.

[B]

It's like calling somebody a Nazi.

[A]

He's a local defense attorney who has a business deal. So now I'm gonna make sure everybody knows what he thinks, that he doesn't support the president and I'll make it.

[B]

Well known for him on attorney.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I've gone against him in trials, but I thought we were cool. We've always said hi to each other. I see him at the store, like, I thought we were good, but he just called me racist for posting.

[B]

It's weird. People act differently on the Internet. Wow.

[A]

Well, we're getting ready to show it. But anyway, we have a major announcement tomorrow on Patreon at 2 o' clock that it's not the Planet Fitness announcement. It's actually nice.

[B]

It's a good announcement we have. Like you said, we're going to talk.

[A]

About some K9's back, but he's not allowed back in.

[B]

All right, put them in so we can say bye.

[A]

All right, bring them back in. All right, you're back in. Yo, who do you got, the Bronies or Radies?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

All right, so the, the spread. I just checked. The spread is nine points. So the Raiders are gaining nine points tonight.

[A]

All right, so who we got right here? Poll right here. Pool right here. I got. I got the Denver to cover.

[C]

Yeah, I'm. Denver's a wagon, dude. The Raiders suck.

[A]

Tyler, you don't know anything about football.

[B]

I know football. I don't know about betting Pick a team.

[D]

Well, the Raiders are getting nine points. So if it's 29 to 20, you know, they. They, they add nine points if they had 20. So whatever the score is, they add nine points to their score.

[A]

The Raiders starting with a nine point lead for the book?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Why?

[E]

We're not.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's to get. So what? It's a conspiracy. They want enough money to be bet on both sides of the game so that they make money. So they say if you want to bet on the Raiders, you're getting nine points because Denver's that much better.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But if you pick Denver, they have to win by 10 or more to win. If it's a nine, it's a push. And if it's under nine, you lose. And they want the money. So what they do is once they get so much money, then they move the line down or up to keep the money. And we all go broke. And Vegas gets rich.

[C]

Yeah. Just don't cover the spread.

[B]

I'm all in.

[A]

All right. All you. You still haven't picked anybody? Still haven't picked anybody yet.

[B]

Both teams. Go sports.

[A]

Go, go, go, go. Sports ball. Well, we'll see. What do you got? Who do you got?

[D]

I. You know, giving a team. Giving a team nine points in the NFL is tough. I usually don't like betting on teams.

[A]

Where is it overnight? Where is.

[D]

Is in Denver.

[C]

It's in Denver.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

They're cooked.

[A]

35, 17. Denver.

[D]

Here's the thing, though. The Raiders have nothing to lose right now. They're going in, just out. They can do whatever the hell they want.

[C]

You say that.

[A]

All right.

[B]

I have a question, K9, before you go. Is the Adidas track shoot a suit a Greek thing or no?

[C]

Hey, y. I just got done watching Hot Uniform, man.

[A]

I'm not commenting because I'm racist. Dude.

[C]

You know how many guys I shot wearing an Adidas tracksuit?

[A]

God. All right, man.

[D]

I just got done watching season one of Sopranos, man.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

He's got an earring and everything.

[B]

He's got gold.

[A]

Appreciate it. You never picked anybody. I'm still pointing that out. You didn't make a pick.

[D]

All right, I'm gonna give you my parlay. I already. I bet this personally. I got Sutton. Anytime. Touchdown. I got Geno Smith to throw a pick and I got Trey tucker to get four catches.

[A]

Let's go. Monday. Tune in Monday, 7pm to let K9 know if his parlay hit, you can take him out. I want you to remove K9 and you want to play the. We'll bring Dom in first.

[C]

Yeah, bring.

[A]

Bring Dom in.

[B]

Can we play?

[A]

There he is, man.

[C]

Look at. Dude, you look like you're getting ready to be on freaking Fox News, boss.

[E]

I am.

[D]

I'm.

[E]

I'm something more important right now.

[C]

I mean, look at that. Good God.

[A]

Obviously, Dom is one of our biggest allies. We are constantly attacked together. He is loyal as it gets and we support Dom. He supports us. I know you've had some issues with Tatum. Do you want to talk about your issue before we play the video, idiot?

[E]

Well, I never. So by anybody who doesn't understand by now, I'm a counter puncher. If I attack someone, it's because you took the first swing. I never go in somebody's comments on them. Maybe Grady Judd.

[A]

Every female tick tock officer other than that.

[E]

Right, but. So if I'm actively posting content like at your Carolina personally, it's because you took the first swing. I don't know where it came from, but during the lockdowns I went off on cops. And the next thing you know, I was actually talking about the black community and cops because, you know, I've got my stuff on Tatum stories. Tatum having never having a conversation with me ever says, this man is a racist. And the problem in law enforcement, me. Okay, now it's on. It's game on. Yeah, I reviewed his content. I think he's extremely unintelligent. I. I broke down. I debunked two of his videos on the Florida stop with the. The black guy who asked for a supervisor gets punched after the windows open. And Tatum is just. He's an extremely unintelligent man who is the quintessential token Negro of the conservative party. They put him in place because he had. Had spent little time as a cop. I don't know his service very much.

[A]

I don't think he's got much history as a cop.

[C]

Right.

[E]

I mean, he still served.

[C]

Right.

[E]

It's okay if he did three years. That's a less experience. Right. So I mean, you look like somebody like Donut Operator. I think Donut Operator's got like two years as a cop and everything.

[B]

Platform.

[E]

And he's a cat's ass with it. So I don't. I'm not going to take that away from.

[A]

That's why he's a good looking dude who is. I'm not gay.

[E]

That's a. He's a handsome man.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, look, he's got like a Morgan Wallen look to him like, like rugged country Star type.

[E]

Look him for. Not for his commentary, but him for being better looking than me.

[A]

Yeah, I saw you.

[C]

Silver fox. Look. Gotcha.

[A]

Hey, he was throwing 300 around today.

[E]

Yeah, I had, like, two, three reps in me, but I'm like, I thought.

[A]

You'Re gonna do another one, and then you wrecked.

[E]

That's why I paused. That's why I paused, because my shoulders are finally smart.

[A]

Unless the video is gone. You know, if you failed that next one, you have to edit it, and then it doesn't 100.

[E]

Anyway, I can't stand Tatum. I just don't. I don't respect him. And. But it's capitalism. If you want to go get a job because people love the color of your skin and you represent a political ideology, go do it, dude. Awesome.

[C]

The guys. The guys become the. The token. The token for a lot of things, including, you know, he was over there at the. What was it? The Republican Jewish convention thing for some. I mean, it was like, dude, like, how many. How many places are you gonna stick your fingers in the jar just so you can make some more money, bro?

[B]

So we got pandering.

[A]

We got a video of him kind of losing it.

[E]

Well, I don't know when this was. Some people said, this was a while ago. I don't know. People like, why are you posting this? And I'm like, because I can. That's simply the only reason I posted it today.

[A]

Well, let's. Lewis play the Izzo video that we've had in the there, and let's kind of watch Tatum come unglued.

[C]

Yeah, he loses it.

[B]

I haven't seen it.

[C]

Oh, it's fantastic. All right, remember, don't talk.

[A]

Oh, you didn't label it Izzo like I asked, huh?

[C]

And you guys are giving me about how I talk.

[A]

Oh, man. And it's not even in there. Lewis. We're not gonna play it. Oh, there it is right there, Top right, top right. There you go. All right. I'll produce next week.

[C]

You're fired.

[A]

Is that use A. I told you, everybody on your live stream know use A. And when I see you, I'm whooping your ass. Everybody got it on watch. You want to be hood? You want to be hood? You on the phone talking to me, and you call me instead. You apologize. Yeah, I never apologize.

[C]

I never apologize.

[A]

My wife listened to you. I never apologized. What I said was. All right, good. Wow.

[E]

A ton of time preaching black community is act. Acting a fool.

[C]

That has to be.

[A]

That has to be old. That has to be an old Video. I would think his setup is very professional now, professional looking now. And he's very big up there in the political once again. He's a cop for a few years and he's got some political, like, following. Mass following seems weird.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, yeah. Was old or not. I mean, like, I'm. I'm with Dom on this one. Like, dude, you're gonna sit there and, and talk your. And then you're gonna go ahead. Like, I can go back not that far and pull this up. Go yourself.

[A]

Here's where I'm disappointed. And I've said, I said this this morning. Is a guy that's a cop with that platform. I disappointed that he knows about like Saladradi's situation in Jersey and he doesn't use that platform. Thank you for that kind of stuff. And I understand it becomes money maker. It's your job. I get it. But that is what we always talk about is that brotherhood thing that doesn't exist. It's like, you know, there's a cop struggling with a false indictment, and you have this massive platform of connections to national politicians and people that can pull, throw their weight around and actually make a difference. And you kind of entertain the family. I know he's talked to them, but I would expect somebody like him to be so upset with a case like that that he would make that a mission. And that's where I don't know him personally. I don't know much about him. I'm just disappointed that he has that platform and doesn't use it for that kind of.

[C]

He talks exposure. He talks about being a cop. He likes to wear all the accoutrements. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know him. I'm just saying I know if I got that big, I would never lose who I was. And I'll say, I would fight for them.

[C]

I'll say. I'll say it to his face, man. Like, you want to wear all the accoutrements of being a cop, but you.

[A]

Don'T want to do it because what do you think? I don't know.

[E]

I think he's right.

[C]

I use another big word.

[E]

It's a great word. Akutra. I would say accoutre mall.

[C]

Oh, okay. Roger that.

[E]

Come on, man. I got a cooking channel now.

[C]

That's what I heard.

[E]

I think that it's 100, right. Once you get to the point where you are, you're talking everything political. And I don't, I, I don't have a dog in the fight over the Israel, Palestine crap. I don't want to, you know, I'm not getting involved in your. But if you're going to go that direction, drop the officer from your title.

[C]

Absolutely.

[E]

Right now. You misrepresent what your brand is.

[C]

Yeah. If, if your brand is that you're a cop, then support cops, man. Somebody like Sal.

[A]

Yeah, that's what, that's where I'm disappointed. And I, you know, I always say, like, if I, I don't care about getting that big, but if I did, I know that my character would not allow me to forget that those guys are the people that, you know, we start with a small following and it grows. And I would never forget those people. And I answer every dm. I know you do as well, Dom. You're big about that, interacting and it's. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, it's mind boggling to keep up with those messages.

[C]

He doesn't answer my DM.

[A]

If you leave with a dick pig.

[E]

I'm not gay.

[D]

Right.

[E]

But at the. You understand something I appreciate because I do get the gay men who slide my DMS and hit on me and I'm like, brother, it's a compliment. You're gonna say, no, it's not gonna happen, man. Maybe if I get drunk one day, I'll send you some butthole pictures.

[D]

But.

[A]

Oh, man.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, there's, there's a, there's a whole crew of people out there that like to talk about being the thin blue line. They like talking about being cops. And then when it's time to do cop. Yeah. Like you guys are nowhere to be found.

[E]

Somebody just posted online that all the NYPD officers they talked to yesterday because that election, they're all resigning. And I put in this comment. Not a chance in hell is one of them gonna do it.

[A]

I'll be interested to see. They should. Yep. Yep.

[E]

They're not going to. You're somebody going to give up a job they've spent 10 years on getting a paycheck all because some political. They couldn't stand up during a pandemic and say, no, we're not going to do this.

[A]

My disappointment there is with the unions because the unions didn't support anybody in Jersey or New York. The police union just stayed out.

[E]

They run out of Democrats.

[A]

Yeah, they actually. No, because in Jersey, the big one was the. That that election and the union didn't support either candidate. But by not supporting the Republican, you might as well just endorse. You've endorsed the Democrats.

[E]

I've never Known a union not to support Democrats.

[A]

Yeah, they stayed out of it this one but, and that was unfortunate for our buddy Sal because the, the Dem or the Republican had said he was going to get rid of that Attorney General and drop his charges. So Sal's back on the hook. But like I said, I, I mean we're cops. You, you really don't dabble in the politics either. You stick to police culture and, and you know, you have plenty of experience in that area and you've got a big platform and you stay kind of true to that. And that's why I look at him as like he's dabbled into politics. And does he really have a background as a couple year cop to.

[C]

18 months out of FTO or any.

[A]

Whatever he did, I don't care if he did 10 years. Does he have any real platform or knowledge of government politics other than what he sees online? I don't know.

[E]

Whatever's being fed is okay. I did when I ran for sheriff out here in Cook County, Chicago, and I had the political experience and it's insane. And if, if you, if you run for office, you'll learn flat out I'm not supporting either side if I'm doing commentary. But they're both complete bags of. So he, he's, I can't fault him. He goes after the paycheck and why wouldn't he, you know, instead of going, well, he's got to be in his late 30s, early 40s.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

If you're, if he's going to be making, you know, six figures a year simply from offering his opinion. And again, he's not very intelligent. He doesn't debate anybody and good for him. You cannot hate the player, the game.

[A]

I have nothing against him personally.

[C]

I got, I got no problem with his hustle. I got no problem with this hustle. I got a problem with the fact that it's like, dude, you're over here presenting yourself as a subject matter expert. Your brand is that you're a police officer. But let's go ahead and look at, I mean people get in to my DMs and go, how the do you know this, Jimmy? And I'm like, well, I don't know. I spent 10 years in the army, four of it was as a sniper and I spent another two years as a military contractor. And they're like, well, you weren't in super secret Ninja Ranger Sniper Delta, so you don't know. But this guy who did 2 years was 18 months out of FT.

[A]

I'm sorry, I don't know how much time he did. I really don't. I don't know.

[E]

I guess I heard about six years. He did six years. That's a good amount of time. And the area.

[C]

All right, I'll take my.

[F]

Fine.

[E]

But at the same time, too.

[A]

Whatever.

[E]

I mean, it's. I'm not on his service. I'm on him as a character where. Where he condemns blacks. That.

[A]

That's why he got.

[E]

Where he got. Because it was a Republican Uncle Tom.

[B]

You can't say that.

[C]

No, no. I don't know if you can see.

[D]

Whoa.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You can't say.

[A]

Ut I don't know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Dude. People are going to come at me.

[A]

Can we say that? South park says it.

[B]

You can't ask. Dom says yes.

[C]

Hey, I. I got. Hey, Dom. We got people in the comments that are like, tatum's gonna come after you, Jimmy. I'm like, dom, help me out.

[E]

He won't. He doesn't. And he's smart. Because the problem is, is he's very passive. He went, after all, lackluster. Who is a journalist who does, you know, the First Amendment or. He does. He's. He's extremely intelligent. The guy. He. I believe he was military, too. I did an interview with him once.

[C]

He's.

[E]

He's unlike me. He's different than me. Where he's methodical, slow, educated, takes his time. And he did a review of some of the. The video footage that Florida Stop. And Tatum tried to debunk it. And he was stupid because he gave credit to the guy who was debunking him.

[C]

Lackluster.

[E]

And he just embarrassed himself. Tatum has to have learned by now that he purely operates on. I'm a black guy. You should support me because I'm calling out the other. What do they call it? It's a. It's something with the N word there. The. The. The niggerosity, if they will. Of what they do. And you should support me because of it.

[A]

He says that, right?

[C]

He says that.

[B]

You're quoting.

[A]

That's a quote.

[E]

If you think that word scares me.

[A]

You'Re out of your mind, dude.

[C]

Dom straight.

[E]

Don't give a. I will not deny I say that word, and when it's appropriate to use it, I use it.

[C]

I mean, there. There are. There are people that. You, man.

[B]

Dom.

[C]

You. My hat's off.

[E]

You ever wrote a police report? A police report, and it's. And you. The victim stated that so. And so said something. You don't go. Victim said so and so. N word. You have to write Verbatim what it is. Never called anyone it, but I absolutely have used the word.

[A]

Well, that's good to say, because that's how Mark Furman got in trouble, by denying about it. Yeah, yeah. That ruined the whole case. And he found the glove that threw the glove out. Like it threw the whole case. And he was on video or audio saying it.

[E]

Absolute representation of how stupid Americans are, where you have a guy who lies about what he did, and then you fast forward 20 years, and he's the face of law enforcement on Fox News. That's how dumb we are.

[B]

All right, well, hey, John, I want to thank you for my algorithm, by the way.

[A]

Who, me?

[B]

You know what I'm talking about.

[C]

He's over here looking like I don't know the truth.

[B]

Let's just say the truth.

[A]

Tomorrow Fridays. Now what? Pump your show tomorrow night.

[E]

Fridays, 7pm Central, 8 Eastern, 6 Mountain, 5 Pacific. Cop Talk Live over on.

[B]

How does somebody do they. People that call in, are they screened or do you pick randomly or do you pre. Do that?

[E]

It just goes right to my phone. What goes to the board so I can call.

[C]

If I call you, you're gonna pick up the phone?

[E]

Sure can.

[C]

Hey, I'm gay. I. I want. I want to say I'm gay.

[A]

I think he did.

[C]

That's him. Not.

[A]

I think it was game, but he shortened it I'm gay.

[F]

Finger.

[E]

But that's as far as I'm going.

[C]

You guys are the worst.

[A]

I mean, we already dropped one word we say gave to get it all. Get it all out.

[B]

We're trying to get on the radio, guys.

[A]

No, no, we're done.

[C]

To Nick.

[A]

You'll be just.

[E]

All you have to do is. Is submit a appeal. If your. If your video gets. I've got plenty of videos that get, like, partially blocked because the content. I hit appeal, and 90% of them gets approved.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

We appreciate it, Dom. We'll. We'll talk to you soon.

[C]

You're the best.

[A]

There's a band just pulled up out front. Bunch of SWAT guys.

[C]

They're gonna go vertical on this door or horizontal.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[B]

Oh, ks paratrooper. 10 bucks in the super chats, man. Thank you so much.

[A]

Just a donation. Just a parting gift for our show. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.

[B]

Want to do a video?

[A]

Yeah, without Jimmy.

[B]

Where you go? Are they here?

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

We got some people joining us.

[A]

Yeah, you want to bring them in? Go ahead, hit a video.

[C]

Hit a video.

[A]

You got another show. Oh, we got a super chat. Jimmy who? Damn. Jimmy's Making us money.

[B]

Single wide Steve. That's okay. But that there's double wide Dan, and single wise, we gotta.

[A]

We got Clint, double wide Dan, single wise.

[B]

And you're telling me double wide Dan is not single wide Steve?

[A]

No, they're brothers. They live right next door to each other.

[B]

What in the.

[A]

We got guests. We got guests. Who's sitting close to the. Hey, come on, come on.

[B]

Oh, yeah, man. Pick one.

[A]

If you're ready to show your legs off, you can sit here.

[B]

What's up, brother?

[A]

What's up? Marines are in the house.

[B]

Adjust the cameras.

[E]

How you doing?

[A]

We get people right in mid show. We pull people off the street for views.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

We get canceled. We bring in more people. What's going on?

[C]

You guys just missed it, man.

[A]

It was.

[C]

All the smoke was coming.

[A]

No, we don't have the smoke. Delete that part.

[C]

So how we doing?

[A]

Introduce. Introduce yourself to all of our guests. Start here first. Angel, I'm back. Angel.

[C]

Like, a month ago.

[A]

United States Marines are Puerto Ricans. Hispanic. If I ask you where you're from and you say Hispanic, two separate questions. No, no, no.

[E]

I asked.

[A]

I asked Lewis. I asked Lewis. I asked Lewis what. What is your ethnic background? He says, Hispanic. I'm like, that's very broad, right? Like, you could be from a many. So then I said, no, where are you from? And he said, puerto Rico. I said, well, then say you're Puerto Rican. What do you think about that? Like, if I ask you where you're, like, you're. What are you gonna say?

[C]

I guess that's fair.

[A]

So for me, I think a lot.

[C]

Of people just already assume. They're like, hey, you're. You're Mexican.

[A]

Everybody. I get that. Everybody brown is Mexican. But I. I don't assume. I want to know.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I mean, I just tell them straight up.

[D]

I am.

[E]

I'm Mexican.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I don't say I'm.

[A]

But.

[C]

But there's so much beef between you. You guys, man. Like the. The freaking. They hate, you know?

[A]

But I'm saying.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Am I wrong? Am I wrong for that? Like, we're not wrong. Okay. Like Jimmy said, there is a lot of friction. I would say friction, Lewis. We don't want friction.

[C]

Yeah, I guess so.

[A]

There was an ongoing joke.

[C]

We had a guy, of course, he was from Puerto Rico, too.

[A]

And I just thought of a joke, and I don't think I could say.

[C]

Guys, be like, hey, get all the Mexicans out here. And it was like 90 of the.

[A]

The platoon.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And he'd get super upset.

[D]

He.

[C]

We used to call him Crypto. And he was a radio guy, right. Because he. His first language was Spanish.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So he would be popping off, saying all these different things and then be.

[A]

Like, dude, you're just a island Mexican.

[C]

Dude, get your ass over here.

[A]

Is that. That's a Puerto Rican. Right, Right. But if Ice comes, you run. He doesn't. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah. I don't even know if I was.

[C]

About to say that the entire Marine, because he's like a good 50 of the marine Corps is. Is. And Hispanic.

[F]

I mean, there's. It's a lot. A lot more.

[C]

Darker green, more like olive drab Marine.

[F]

Olive drab Marines.

[A]

I guess. I. I guess to a regular. As a cop, I want to know. No, I want to know more. So when I say, I know you're Hispanic, obviously, like, both. But when I ask as a person, it's like, hey, like, where are you from? I want to know, like, where. Like, my family's from Greece. My family. You know, where are you from? So that's what I was asking. So Tyler got on me that I. I said his Puerto Ricans are Hispanic, and. Of course they are. But I'm asking a real question. Like, give me details. Where you from?

[B]

Anybody want a water, beer, or monster?

[C]

I'm gonna have to make another mixed drink.

[D]

I have water right now.

[A]

Thank you. We're good. Thank you.

[F]

Can I do a water, please?

[A]

Yeah, with lemon.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Other guest introduce.

[F]

Were you in the air?

[A]

Let them introduce themselves. Go ahead.

[F]

I'm Chris. Me and Busso served together. We were in the Marine Corps together. Deployed both of our times.

[C]

So you guys are getting ready to, like, party up in, like, four days?

[F]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's the second. The second.

[C]

250, man.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

The day before Veterans Day.

[F]

It's November 10th, 1775. Thank you.

[C]

So Tavern, baby. This is the first one that I'm not in.

[F]

Oh, it's your first one because he just got out.

[A]

Oh, man.

[F]

Which is.

[C]

Hey, and would you do me a favor? Hey, did you just get a job recently? Yes. Thank you very much for that. No, no, no, you don't need to thank me. You don't need to thank me. But. But this is.

[B]

Are you giving out jobs? I need a job.

[D]

No.

[C]

So this is important. Like, one of the things that actually does happen that's really great about this podcast. It's. Or the broadcast or the good job, whatever. Is we're able to network people.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We were able to take this person who has A need and put them with this person who can help him out. So he came to me that night a month ago, was like, hey, bro, if you know anybody. And I'm like, yeah, I think I might.

[A]

So your Mexican accent.

[C]

Hey, like, like, like you're. You're. You're a marine, so we know your special needs, and we.

[F]

We're crown eaters. Yeah. So me. Me and Boothst, we served. Served our time together. I got out before he did, and then I transitioned into law enforcement for a few years.

[A]

Can I point something out? Can I point something out? Everybody that sits in that chair has an amazing voice.

[B]

It sounds like it to us.

[A]

No, the other dude sat over there.

[B]

No, no.

[F]

No, I wasn't calm. I was.

[A]

Motor T. Whatever you're doing it. That he's got.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

He's got a podcast voice.

[C]

You have the voice.

[A]

And the other dude said over there.

[F]

Yelling over the trucks and the noise inside of them.

[A]

I'm sitting over there.

[B]

You never heard a real dil. They get that wrong noise. Permanently destroyed their vocal cords.

[C]

It's.

[F]

It's usually how it works. Yeah. Did law enforcement and then.

[A]

Oh, you're a cop too?

[F]

I was, yeah.

[A]

Oh, man.

[F]

In Polk county.

[D]

Huh?

[A]

Polk County.

[B]

Grady.

[F]

Grady. I worked around Grady. I was in Winter Haven.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

John Avery was in Winter Haven.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You knew John?

[F]

I know John.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

John. John and I were.

[B]

Cyprus podcast a lot. Yes, man.

[C]

He's been on our podcast a couple times.

[F]

Sweet.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

We'll got you out of the game, bro.

[F]

So my father. My father had passed.

[C]

It's a good.

[F]

It's a.

[A]

My story's bad, and your story's bad. You had a game. I'm always prepared for something.

[E]

It's. It's a.

[F]

It's a. I think it's a layered thing. For a lot of guys that leave.

[A]

Law enforcement, it's a lot of things.

[B]

That happen, and then finally.

[F]

And then it's just your cups full and you're done. Right? So.

[B]

And you've been done for some time. You're just waiting to pull the trigger on it.

[F]

No, yeah, I've been. I'm already out.

[B]

No, I'm saying. But when you make that decision, when one leaves law enforcement, usually it's been on their mind for a while. Yeah. They're not just. They don't just wake up one day and go, hey, what?

[C]

I.

[B]

What? I eat, sleep, and breathed and put in the blood I put into this job. You don't just wake up one day and go, I'm out. You kind of like you kind of check out and it stop. The proactivity, stop.

[F]

Drop your pack. Pretty much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then all of a sudden you're just responding to calls and then you see your attitude gets different and yeah.

[F]

You become jaded a little bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

I mean just, just the, the day to day exposure of the career in itself. My father had passed away. He was involved in an officer involved shooting down in Fort Lauderdale. He had a diabetic episode behind the wheel and it transitioned into him losing his life.

[C]

Sorry, brother.

[F]

Yeah, that's all good, man. I appreciate it.

[A]

What year was that?

[F]

2018.

[A]

And you were, you were a caught when that happened?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And that I, I lost my dad in 2011.

[F]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Unexpectedly as well. And it, I was a cop and that led to my years of alcoholism. Yeah, I went real deep in the bottle for about five or six years.

[F]

It's definitely tough.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

So I'm happy on your side of it now.

[A]

Yeah. It took a long time to your name. It took a long time to get through that. And you know, my mom suffered and watching that go down and then having the job, I can. I know what you went through. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, can you, I mean like, how do you even process that? I mean, are they going to give you time off with.

[A]

Yeah, they give, they do all that and you know, they all show up to the funeral like they care about you and then years later they all over you. But you know, it as a. I guess that was my moment of life is pretty serious.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you lose your dad, you know, you're a little kid, you run around, dad is dad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't expect like you find out Santa Claus wasn't real and that was a huge disappointment. And then you lose grandparents, but you're like, I really don't know them. Their grandparents are older. Yeah, that dime was real.

[F]

Real the way, the way my grandfather would explain it, right. You, you, you die three times in your life. Right. The first time is when you lose your innocence. Right. The mortality of life is now apparent. As a teenager, like, I can mess.

[A]

Up and there's serious consequences.

[F]

Second time is your physical death.

[B]

Right.

[F]

The third time is the last time your name is spoken amongst your friends and family.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[F]

So that's why we always, it's a, it's a thing within law enforcement, military, like we get, you know, we get in a school circle, we start talking about the good times and the guys that are no longer sitting amongst us. Right.

[A]

To keep that, that throw a fundraiser or a Ruck. March, whatever event or something. Yes.

[F]

I didn't have a. I didn't have a relationship with my father growing up. It came towards a few days before my first deployment. So then I had eight years with him before his passing. Right. So it was a lot. And then the situation that he was involved in kind of, like, tore me on either side because, like, I'm behind the badge. I understand it. But now, like, it's my father. Right. Burn the candle on both ends. Going in early, staying in late, you know, catching more calls than what I should be catching. It started to affect my work, which then fought, you know, I fought with internally my integrity.

[B]

Right.

[F]

Not becoming jaded and a liability on shift, and it was just time.

[A]

Yeah, I. I commend you for doing that. I. I should have.

[B]

On your own terms.

[A]

Yeah, I should have. I was a raging alcoholic. I drove drunk many times and contradicted that those years of my life by being a cop and having a massive alcohol problem. I got through it, turned into a much better person. But I. I know what you went through, and it's not. Not easy.

[B]

So.

[C]

So when did you. When did you go in the Marine Corps? I have a point.

[F]

2.

[B]

2000.

[F]

2008 is when I.

[C]

So the education for guys now is a lot different than when all of us were in. There's guys now that, like, they understand. Like, they're being told by leadership, like, hey, guys, look out for this. Yeah, you're gonna. You're gonna have this problem. So when. When. When we were in, it was like, come here. Suck it up and drive on, dude.

[A]

Yeah. And. And I suffered more. It was very similar stories, very early.

[C]

Similar.

[A]

Me and my dad weren't very close as young, and we got closer near the end of his life. But my mom is. What drove me crazy was watching my mom suffer. Like, my mom was 16 when she had me.

[F]

Her.

[A]

My dad was her first boyfriend, had me when she was 16. And it was just. That was all she knew her whole life. So it's like watching my mom go from one person she's been with her whole life. She's never left the house again. I mean, she does go to the store, but all that. But she's never dated, she's never been with. It was just traumatic to watch my mom suffer. And it was like, I'm suffering, she's suffering. I'm there for her.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Where do I go? And I turned to the. I turned alcohol, and I got deep and deep in alcohol, so it sucks.

[B]

Way to bring the show down. Boys.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's go. So I got called a racist.

[F]

I got out of law enforcement while I was in there. I took, took. I took some like gentlemen courses. Education for canine training. And I've been doing that ever. I mean that's totally 12 years. Like I got out of the Marine Corps and I was doing it. But then I got into law enforcement with hopes to be canine and never had that opportunity. We had our part time SWAT team. I was a part of. For a short time, within the short time of being in law enforcement. And then now I do dog. You know, train dogs.

[D]

Puppets.

[C]

That's what's on.

[A]

Said I'm a dog freak. Appreciate I'm a dog freak.

[F]

I know enough to make fun of me.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So did you know John's dog, Athena? Yeah, that's my dog now.

[F]

That's your dog now?

[C]

Yeah, it's my daughter's dog.

[F]

It's your daughter's dog? Yeah. Good neutrality. It's a silent dutchie. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So she, she's. She follows my daughter around every.

[F]

Nice.

[C]

I mean I gotta, I gotta train.

[A]

You mind throwing your.

[C]

The information of your.

[F]

You want me to.

[A]

Absolutely.

[F]

So Instagram, my personal page is Nomad. Underscore Decoy. And then my business page is primal K9 spelled out C A N I N E. Underscore. Florida. We have a website. There's a YouTube. Yeah. YouTube channel collectively because it's. I'm one part of it. We have a west coast and then a Georgia. Those guys just cleared a training property in Georgia which is pretty, pretty cool. And we service everything from puppies to police, canine and agencies.

[C]

Where have you guys been? Like, where do you guys train? Where do you guys.

[F]

I mean I've traveled more being a trainer than I have in the service on leisure. And as a cop, we've extended out to Barcelona, Europe, South America, Canada, all over the continent, United States doing dog training stuff.

[B]

So I don't have the patience for dogs. I really. I have a pitbull. I f. I. I was in the hood and my dog was chained to a fence. Emaciated. Then I rolled up and I was like, it was a call for service. The security was like, you know, and I'm of course, I'm like, but this isn't a call. This isn't a police call. And the guy. And so I'm like, dude. I'm like, man. And he goes, okay. And he un. Unleashes the dog. Was like. And like he undoes it from the fence and just starts walking it. And I Go, what are you doing? He's like, I'm gonna go drop him off in the hood. And like, because it was right around from the hotel, I was like, man, put him in the car. I was like, I got him in the car. And of course it was Saturday night. There was no vets open that I could find. I had to find a 20. There was no animal services wasn't coming until the next day. I was that I could take him to a 24 hour vet if he had a chip. And so I, I got off at 2 in the morning. I took him to 1. They were like, he's got no chip. And so I took him home, gave him a bath, he spent the night. And then I took him to the animal shelter because they said that's the best way if someone lost him, which they didn't. It was a hood and he was tied to a fence. But if someone did lost him, that animal shelter goes through all Facebook, like.

[F]

Looks for like a deep dive.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I waited seven days and I said, if no one claims him in seven days, I'll take them. So I went back and I picked him up. They neutered him, gave him no pain meds. So he's laying the first night. He's like on the floor with a huge cone in his head because he got kennel cough also. So he has kennel cough and no nuts and pain. So I took him back to the wild Saturday night. Yeah, I took him back to the, the 24 hour place a week later and said, dude, this. This dude's suffering. I could hear it. Like, he got. They're like, they didn't give any pain meds. They neutered him. And I'm like, no. So they gave me paid meds. That was my first 300 bill within one night of owning a song, man. So then I take them back home. And then I.

[C]

I was waiting for you to make the joke about Jimmy was just, hey, man, I tried some r. It's dispatch.

[F]

It's.

[B]

It's suburbia. Jimmy's killing another dog.

[D]

But.

[B]

But yeah, that's Blazer.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I saw him today and he, like, gave me a hug. And then as soon as I started walking over towards where they're doing the pot the girls doing the podcast, he was like, what the are you doing? He's barking at me.

[B]

Yeah, he's never bitten anybody in his life, but he looks like he could.

[C]

Yeah, he looks like.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

I mean, those are the best dogs. Those are a majority of the dogs that you see out there, very rarely out of the 12 years, I think I can count on my hand, one hand, how many dogs were super serious about taking your, like, punching, you're taking and taking your life. Everything else is just like, you know, it's a chess game.

[C]

So, I mean, but like those, those Belgian Malinois, like, I have.

[F]

Yeah, I have.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, those dogs look like they will kill you.

[F]

They mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Train, right. Just like anything. Like, we grow up. And there's a difference between just like your. Your basic nature of self defense, which isn't going to be pretty. It's not like orchestrated and defined. And then you have somebody that fights in the ring or an octagon, and it's like graceful, right? And effortless and enthusiastic. Dogs are no different. So some dogs will put on a good show and then there's.

[B]

But then when you put them in the cage against each other, they're graceful.

[F]

Yeah. But there's few. Like, if you train them right, yes, they're deadly.

[B]

They're.

[F]

They're that 100. They can be, you know?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I've seen Belgian Malinois on deployment. Yeah. People are like, please get this dog.

[F]

I was out in Colorado a few weeks back, and there's a couple agencies that some of those dogs, like, you can just feel feeling their grip, feeling their bite, and then see it in their eyes that they're just, they're about it.

[B]

They want that smoke.

[C]

They're switched on.

[F]

The formality of you just wearing like training equipment, like a light sleeve, some neoprene or something, and teaching this, this script development and all that. Like, they're just crushing and crushing and crushing and they're just looking at you like it's another Tuesday.

[B]

Quick, quick shout out. Gotta get a shout out to our new members. Cedric Jones and NKB signed up for membership on YouTube. So thanks, guys. Also got to give a quick shout out to our sponsors. First one, of course, Ghostbed. Go to ghostbed.com forward/anti hero. Save 10 on their already ridiculously low prices from pillows, mattress toppers, cooling, patented technology sheets, and of course the bread and butter, their mattresses. They're very big supporters of podcasts like ours. First responders, veterans. Go to ghostbed.com forward/antihero. Save 10%. Replace the old beds in your house. Replace the bedding. Save some money. Also elevated Silence. Go to elevatedsilence.com use promo code ANTIHERO. Did we fix it, Lewis?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Anti arrow 15. Say 15 on your cans. They got cans for everything from 22s to the big 50 cows.

[A]

Yeah, but we've shot them.

[B]

We know what they're like, Jimmy. What do they sound like? Yeah, they're not silent. They're not silencing.

[C]

They're suppressors.

[B]

They're suppressors. We talked.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What?

[A]

Go ahead.

[C]

Jerry's in the comments.

[B]

Oh, Jerry.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

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[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's great, bro.

[A]

People are asking about tasty gains. We're going to talk a little bit about sponsor stuff tomorrow at 2pm and Patreon. Patreon, we're going to talk. Tell them first. So if you're interested, join our Patreon tomorrow, 2pm we'll go live and we will address it to everybody on Monday.

[B]

Jerry's asking about it.

[A]

Jerry's ass.

[B]

Jerry's tracking the drama.

[A]

Yeah, Jerry was live on the show this morning. Yeah. So, yeah, we're going to talk about our sponsor stuff.

[C]

I mean it. I mean, people were already asking on Monday when they looked at the show and they're like, oh, obviously there's.

[A]

There's always, always. There's always some.

[B]

They're being replaced.

[A]

Some stuff. There's always some stuff that goes down.

[B]

And we're not gonna put it on here where it could be clipped because we're trying to be professional, but we put it on.

[A]

Patreon.

[B]

Patreon. We're going live at two people.

[A]

You're gonna clip us. You're gonna pay.

[B]

You're gonna pick. You're gonna clip it. Exactly. You know what's funny?

[A]

Just like your pup.

[B]

One of the million complaints I got from the psychopath that I was dealing with.

[A]

Which one?

[B]

Yeah, right. I went into IA and this dude followed me on in my Patreon for months and reported me for, quote unquote, double dipping as a deputy while having a Patreon and wanted me in trouble. This is a whole part of the show that was going on. He thought he was anonymous.

[A]

It's anonymous.

[C]

Unanimous.

[B]

Unanimous. But because. Because I'm the. The person behind it, I can get to see who did it.

[A]

And ah, yeah.

[B]

And so he put those complaints in.

[A]

And then he get. He got like 10 likes on his when he did it.

[B]

And so they go. They. Well, they kind of Say like, so what do you have to say about it? And I'm like, well, watch the video again. And I. And I go, well, at least he paid. And they all laughed. Like, at least he paid.

[F]

Did you tell them that they would have to, like, join the Patreon?

[A]

No, he recorded. He could at least got us one more. Make sure that make Mina show up. He follows me, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Nina, Sheriff Mina.

[B]

Have you roasted him yet?

[A]

It since his the deputy chief.

[B]

I haven't. They. They did me dirty, bro.

[A]

They did.

[B]

Do you know they're off limits now?

[A]

Other they're not off limit.

[C]

Hey, you're not working over there in Polk county anymore. Like, amen.

[F]

I mean, I still agencies.

[A]

That's like those big hills in the middle of nowhere, right? Winter Haven. Like, north side, you go through and it's like nothing.

[F]

And then north side, Yeah, I forgot.

[B]

I have two pit bulls. I have the one I rescued, and then I have my wife.

[A]

Are you smoking crack? Is that what it is? What? You just remember you have another dog.

[C]

Just talking about his wife, dude. Damn dog.

[A]

And I have a Malinois at home. I have two golden doodles in a Malinois.

[C]

Jojo's not a savage.

[B]

As they come.

[C]

All of our wives are like pit bulls. They're all nasty.

[B]

My wife's in the comments defending me more than my own family.

[C]

I mean, Jojo gets after it. Lily gets after it.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

My wife.

[B]

All right, let's do a video.

[C]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Hey, Lewis, can you handle this?

[C]

You guys got to see this shooting, man.

[F]

Is.

[A]

Let's go right to that. That all the way over. I want you guys to watch it. That. No, that left. Oh, my God. I'm not confused. Mike, next to the Izzo video, right on the same level, right?

[B]

Fourth, top row.

[A]

This is Lima Police Department, and I. I don't clip it all. Lima, Lima, Lima. Go. Let's watch this.

[B]

What? Get who out of here?

[C]

What?

[D]

Guys?

[C]

What did what?

[A]

Pause it for a second. So what you're watching is. Okay, so you can't see this. There's the guy at the driver's side. There are two cops on the passenger side. You're watching the body camera in the bottom left from the male who is on the passenger side of the vehicle. We'll watch it back again. But what that bad guy in the back seat tells him is, I'm get. I'm getting ready to do something. He tells him like he tells the Prime. He tells the guy. That's what you watch. He's getting ready to say we need to get him out. He.

[B]

He.

[A]

What my point is, is bad guys usually, and you know this, you all know, they tell you they're going to do something. Usually when they're really bad guys, they look at you and say they don't. Unfortunately, the Daytona cop that was killed, the guy told him or Volusia county, Was it Daytona P.D. okay. He looked at him and said, bro, you don't want to do this. Like, you don't.

[F]

He told they project somewhere.

[A]

He said, you don't want to do any. End up killing him. So in this case, this guy in the back seat says to that cop, I'm about to do something because of who I am. And the cops like, what? What'd you say? And then he says, get him out. So let's watch.

[D]

Get him out.

[A]

No, you have two. Two cops ran.

[F]

Where's the.

[A]

Your injured officers? Down on the ground. Body he shot.

[F]

Was he.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. If we're gonna break down video, I need. I need you guys big.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So we need to do this because when I. If I were to clip it, you guys are a tiny little inch. Big square.

[A]

When the producer flips it. Go ahead. I can't control it.

[C]

That's a big one inch.

[B]

So when you. He says pause it. Bring us back up.

[A]

See the little boxes right there?

[F]

New transition.

[C]

There we go.

[B]

There we go.

[C]

There we go.

[A]

So what you have here is what. What happened was he projects that he's going to do something. The cop that is talking on the body camera is down. The other two cops beat feet. He is now by himself, shot.

[C]

Why aren't they.

[A]

Let's just.

[E]

That's.

[A]

That's what I'm getting at.

[F]

They're integrity.

[A]

They run. So go ahead and you can go back to that and play the video to the right of the car. He's laying in the bushes. That's him right there on the right. There he is.

[F]

Are they in the rear of the vehicle?

[A]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[F]

The one that was down, was he. Was he flush with the passenger?

[A]

He was the one. He was rear. He was the. The guy. The bad guys in the rear seat. So when you saw that body camera.

[C]

The primary's talking to and there's a.

[A]

Cop next to him.

[F]

And then he says, I'm gonna do something. And then he acts on it. That guy gets plopped and he's.

[A]

He's in a gunfight.

[C]

Two buddies decide to be feet female.

[A]

And other male tucktail.

[F]

Go figure.

[B]

They're Gone. Gone.

[C]

I mean, like, like they were out. Like, there was. There was clearly no, that was a fight. That was all flight.

[A]

There was no, like, clear leather.

[C]

We're in a gun fight.

[A]

Not be crazy. Your natural him is probably run. Your fight or flight kicks in probably right for any. But then you go, wait a second. My buddy's up there.

[F]

You're not training enough, though.

[A]

That's right. That's BCQ vehicle tactics. You're not training because you should immediately get cover on that car, and then you should be returning fire.

[C]

Yeah, I, I, I, I don't know, man. Look, maybe the army and, and, you know, deploying beat the, the flight out of me. I'm in that. If, if. As long as I still. I'm on my feet, I'm. I'm. I might be moving. If you train, I'm coming out.

[A]

He said the key word, right? If you train that way, if you're. If you've done vcqbm, you've repped it, you know, you can move around that car that he's in.

[C]

Use your geometry of fire.

[A]

Use pillars. Use ABC pillars.

[F]

There's techniques, but it starts with. It starts with your mindset, but.

[A]

And the mindset to leap, I can't fathom. I can't fathom that my guy is shot.

[C]

I couldn't do it.

[F]

And it's a delay. Like, not, not the fact that they bailed. They're still not five, almost 10 seconds before. He's the guy that was down.

[B]

Excuse me. He keeps going.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I clipped it because I didn't want to run it all night. It's a very long video, but how.

[C]

Long does that gunfight last?

[A]

Good. Hit it back up there, and then we'll keep watching, and then we'll run it from the top again so everybody can just watch it. And flu.

[C]

I will watch it in real time.

[A]

But here, you got another 10, 15. Look up.

[C]

Where's his buddies, bro?

[A]

I don't know.

[F]

I mean, even being behind and clearing fire to at least get him out of it, out of the range.

[A]

All right, now let's run it from the top. I'll be quiet. I want you to listen to the guy in the back seat.

[C]

Everybody quiet.

[A]

Listen to the guy in the backseat. What? He says.

[B]

What? Get who out of here?

[C]

What?

[D]

Guys?

[C]

What did.

[A]

What.

[D]

Get him out.

[B]

Where'd he get hit?

[F]

Chest.

[A]

He's in the hospital. He's. He lived. Cop lived. They found later on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in stable condition. He got hit in the chest.

[B]

Bad Guy get hit at all?

[A]

Yeah, he's not dead. He's in the hospital as well.

[B]

But he got hit by the guy.

[A]

Yeah, they shot him. They ended up fleeing and they. They found him later on. But, you know, it's. You're right. It's training. It's in your mind. Have those two cops thought like we're gonna get in a gunfight? It doesn't. It doesn't appear.

[C]

I. I'm the one that's never been a cop here. And so here's what I'm gonna ask, like, when you. How many of these? Well, no, I mean, I normally. I'm sorry. My bad. Angel.

[B]

He forgot you were here.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You're so quiet.

[C]

Go off. So how many of these stops do you do a night?

[A]

I mean, it depends on who you are. If you're on a proactive squad, I would average 12. You're 12 stops a night.

[F]

So you're burning almost a full tank of gas for a 12 hour shift.

[A]

And I was very select.

[F]

You should.

[A]

Yeah, I was selective. I didn't stop everybody. I stopped the ones that want.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. You put yourself in a position, you start to read how people are driving and like. And then using your corrective, like correct intuition, you can. You can walk yourself into a. Into a good book look like into a good arrest if you know what you're doing. But dozen plus a night.

[C]

So you've been doing this for a couple of years now. How complacent are you getting?

[F]

Well, that's when you need to hang.

[A]

Up the badge of the gun. Yeah, that's true.

[C]

Okay, that.

[D]

That's.

[B]

It's a spectrum because you do.

[A]

You're on it too. Well, you're on the spectrum.

[B]

Shut up.

[C]

Can't make that joke.

[B]

Tylenol. Yeah.

[A]

Tyler. No, I just made that up. Dirt would be for sale by the end of episode. Get your Tyler and all.

[B]

That's a good shirt.

[A]

Yeah, that is a good shirt.

[B]

Oh, would you guys buy that shirt?

[A]

Tyler and all.

[C]

Tyler all.

[F]

Everybody seen, they want it.

[B]

No, it is. It's a spectrum of, you know.

[D]

I'm.

[B]

Pausing the show until sometimes you just can't help it, but you know you're doing it. So you correct it. In real time, you correct it. But a real good cop knows at what point in what areas he's getting.

[A]

He's getting.

[B]

Okay, he's getting like that. So, you know, I. I don't think that you should.

[A]

If you get complacent and I have to know what to stop is four because that would tell me if they're a good cop. I don't say good if they're proactive cops or not.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

If this is. This is a real shady tag light as out something really something superficially, because you're looking for that stuff when you want to stop the car.

[C]

So you stop the black Nissan Altima.

[A]

Guilty.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

All the time.

[C]

All right. You stop the black Nissan Ultima. You've got three. I, I wanna, I'm gonna say it this way. Fighting age males in the, in the vehicle. Are you not gonna go? I mean, because clearly there's more than one cop there.

[F]

There's. There's a lot of things that you should be doing actively in your mind as you're about to pull it over. You're seeing how many individuals that are in the vehicle. Right. It's obviously like, okay, can I dictate where they stop? Or they. Are they trying. Trying to take control that to.

[A]

To build it, rolling it further, getting.

[F]

Down the road, delaying so they can p or tuck things? And if that's the case, if they're super pro, if they're super active in the vehicle, I'm gonna do a felony stop. No, I'm not even going to approach. I'm gonna flood their rear. Rear of their vehicle with so much white light and I'm gonna, I'll. I'll change my position, you know, and, and wait for backup and then compress it. I'd rather be safe than sorry. But that's where people's egos come into place because they don't want to be seen as like a hollow traffic stop. Like, you did all that for nothing. But the good cops are the ones.

[A]

That take that proactive Jimmy me, I've got 23 years. We talk about years here and there. I can tell you from that statement that he's a great cop. I don't have to. I don't hear. I don't have to hear another word.

[C]

I mean.

[A]

It'S the mindset. And I can hear what he's saying. I can see that going through my head as I'm pulling a car over. Like, I have said that to myself. Like, are they pulling over right away? How quickly are they. Is they're moving in the car? Is it rocking a little bit? Is there some. Are they pulling near a street light or away from the street light? Are they going to. And all those things? And what my. My wife's a patrol sergeant and still active. And what she says, exactly what you said is, cops think that you there's like a time frame. Like I have to pull the car up and get up to it. My wife will not walk up to a car until all four windows are down. If there's four people or how many people there are, it doesn't matter. All four windows go down.

[B]

Well the time frame thing comes from shitty FTPs teaching you striking fear in you that you don't own that car. You have to. Case law says that you only have this much time. Like I have as much time in.

[F]

The world, 100 sit in front of a judge every time if I need to to specify why I took my time. Because that's different. That's me writing a citation after the investigation.

[C]

So he's on your jump out crew now?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I can't get over the fact that Jimmy has a giant half eaten piece of pieces sitting here.

[A]

But like all those things go into the stop. So like, like when he said I would see 50 cars and, and I'm not going to stop, stop, I'm gonna stop one of them and it's the right one and I can't tell you, has nothing to do with the racing color of the driver, has nothing to do with anything. There is just a, a fictitious calculation that goes on in my head that nobody else would understand. And I go that, that it's that one, that's the car. And I'm not always right, but there's probably some loose marijuana or meth pipe.

[C]

Laying around to do it.

[F]

I got a script. So I would say I had the best piece of advice from somebody with some, some theft prevention guy that used to be a captain in Polk County. And I mean he broke down like kinesics, kinesics, body language, study of body language. And that started like making me want to deep dive into more superficial like surface level like investigating without diving too deep. And I would like. Hey, you know, good afternoon Officer Corley. Reason why I'm stopping you. Is there any bombs, bullets, grenades, bazookas, dead bodies, animals?

[A]

Absolutely.

[F]

And then almost identical if, if I night hyper fixated on something, either hiding or preemptively loading to do something, you're going to get a smile, a laugh, right. If they're preoccupied then it's going to be like huh or stone cold like freeze and sit. So now I'm already without even getting to it. Yeah. How did you know? Right?

[A]

And then you, then you kind of look like where did he, where did he get that look when I said gun. When he, when I said what triggered that look?

[C]

Right.

[A]

And then I think one of the other massive parts of this interview process, which I know young cops are very bad about about, is they jump straight to the point of what the conversation needs, what they want to ask. And I would be, I am from 900 different cities. If I stop you and you tell me you're from Chicago, I've got an aunt. Chicago. I've got an uncle in Chicago.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I love the pizza in Chicago. You tell me you're from Jersey. I got a cousin in Lank City. You tell me from la. Oh, I've never been to California in my life. I've been to LA. I love LA. LA's great this time of year. Who lives in LA? You're keeping their mind off it. And that, that gives you time to see are they engaging in the conversation or like, yeah, LA, CA, yeah. And they're like, man, this gun's in my pocket. I got this drugs. Yeah, man. Like they don't want to look. And that's, that's the easiest way I can explain.

[B]

You guys still nerding out on traffic?

[A]

You know, we're talking about the standard, you know, we weren't Disney cops. We did like something else. Police working gay. I was like judge working gay concerts.

[D]

At the.

[A]

Ask about the Gay concert. He worked at Planet Hollywood. That's his job.

[B]

But that was a crazy.

[A]

Anyway for you guys that tuned in to watch it. The cop podcast, we're talking about cop.

[B]

Stuff, if you can believe it's not a podcast. Don't label us.

[F]

Like, there's, there's. I mean, I, I would layer like how I'd flash, like overload their, their ret.

[B]

He went right back into it.

[F]

There's things, I think, and again, I, I short rotation as a cop, but there's a lot of things that I think that some jaded FTPs need to come up off of.

[B]

Right.

[F]

Because it's more so their time. They don't want to stay late, they don't want to have to go through additional work because the rookie's picking up shifts or calls for service. And that will put somebody in the grave quicker than anything. It's slowing down.

[A]

It's unfortunate that guys like us are usually not looked at like instructor type people because of what we did. We were just busy being cops. But I say this now after I've matured that if people listen to what we're talking about, honestly, if we stood in front of a bunch of young cops, we would make more impact than any FTO in probably an eight hour day.

[F]

Oh, I mean, You've done it a lot longer. You need to be more.

[A]

It just doesn't. It's not in the cards for me. It's not. I mean it's tough in the cop world to not to say, oh, I did this, I did that. And we just, oh, this guy's a bragger. And I gave up on trying to just show it. I'm trying to do it for the right reason.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

If anybody ever calls me, I have guys that call me patrol sergeants. Hey. I explained how I kept notes on guys and how I organized like different parts of town with the criminal activity and did some research and kept notes.

[F]

Between it being a passion.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And I did, I wrote, I wrote, I wrote, wrote like intel reports for myself on street level stuff as a cop, as a regular road guy. So. But my point is, is like if you try to get out and teach it, it's just so colluded with guys trying to make money. And I would do it more for, yeah, I'd want to make money, but I wouldn't want to be rich off of it. I really have a passion for being able to teach these young guys like that level of law enforcement because that's where real cops.

[B]

We got to get another video at some point. I think you guys would talk for another three hours.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll have. Yeah, we'll talk. We'll talk about cop stuff that Tyler didn't do. Go up to. Just go right down the top row. Lois, go to that next one up. There you go. I don't know what it is, but let's watch.

[F]

It looks like somebody getting bit.

[C]

I. I want to do that three way gunfight.

[F]

25Ft of copper.

[B]

So I love the fact that that guy didn't trust the taser work the first time he went and played his cards.

[A]

My favorite part time. My favorite part of that video was the shaking bake, man. Yeah.

[B]

I've never had any formal training, but you know what it.

[A]

That's. That's Vegas. And that guy caught some heat. I know people that know tonal guys know that.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And he, they said he's a squared away dude. And you know, people are like, oh, this training that, that there was no give up.

[B]

He was in that fight, he was gonna. And you know what? I liked how he, he had two guys now that he is going to take to jail or put charges on and he still stuck with original uno, Mr. Number One.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

He was like, no, you hands you.

[A]

Is that the doctor or the lawyer of the group? What, What Guy was that.

[B]

He was gonna be the astronaut Mike. Oh, and now this cop ruined his chances.

[A]

I mean, like I said, it was very dangerous. That could have gone bad times, but it was nice to see the citizens jump out. And.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I mean, that. That jeep came up and was like, yo, bro, you want that?

[A]

Dude probably lost like 10 grand at the blackjack table. He's like, I'm the somebody somebody. Anger, free.

[F]

Free set on the street.

[A]

Word.

[B]

He's in an argument with his wife on the phone.

[C]

Y' all can catch these hands.

[B]

I'm gonna go beat somebody since I can't beat you.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

That'S what he said. I'm the fictional storyboy.

[F]

Thought he was gonna pull the prongs out of that thing and.

[A]

Yeah, there's nothing cooler than that.

[B]

Stand up for the first one. Didn't work.

[C]

All right, top left.

[A]

Oh, you're just jumping around, though. All right, top left, Left. You. You're dying for this one.

[C]

Is this the one I really want to see?

[F]

You said this is the three way gunfight.

[C]

Yeah, well, it's. It's. It's three different A cameras.

[A]

All right, let's go, Lois.

[B]

Do this.

[A]

You going get. I'm gonna shoot you, bro. I'm gonna shoot you, bro. You better put it down, bro. You better put it down, bro. I'm going to shoot you. Put it down. Put it down.

[B]

Put. Hell of a shot.

[C]

I do, too. Wait, wait. Watch the second one. The second one's important. Blow it up, Lewis, so everybody can see it.

[A]

I got him.

[F]

He trains.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Like I said before. Wait.

[C]

Okay, did you see that? There was a friendly in his line of fire as he was doing remedial action.

[F]

He's doing.

[C]

He's doing.

[F]

You know, and then he went right back up on the top.

[A]

That dude has practiced that. That thousands and thousands of times because.

[C]

He dug under as well. So he. He has. And. And he's. He's over here. He's pulling it into his workspace. He's going ahead and fixing it up. He's still got eyes down range. He sees that he's got a friendly down bottom right. And then brings stuff over the top.

[A]

That's like the Odell Beckham catch of reloads in a. In a real.

[C]

In a real gun. Training videos.

[A]

That should be in training videos. That was.

[C]

That should be a training videos at Quantico. That should be a training videos. Yeah.

[B]

You.

[F]

Oh, you process so much information. You know, you're. You're trying to stay on the fight. You're Trying to stay in line with the fire, get ahead.

[B]

Hell of a shot.

[F]

Momentum. Hell of a shot. And then the fact that he had that malfunction. He didn't, he didn't dip, dodge, and, and hide behind cover to figure it out like it was. He slowed his pace, corrected the, the error, and then went right back on it. Man, that was nice.

[A]

That was a wild reload.

[F]

Give him a promotion.

[B]

The two angles.

[A]

He's a street guy. He's not getting anywhere. Yeah, I like. How about the cardio on both of them as well. Good running full speed, both yelling and taking that shot.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And. And to be. I mean, I, I. The guy that was yelling was like. He was. He was black.

[A]

He was black.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No, no, we're talking about. We're talking about Cooper's colors.

[A]

He was Mexican. He wasn't a little bit of a noodle loop.

[C]

We're talking about Cooper's colors. He was.

[A]

Okay, I don't know Cooper's color.

[C]

So you got that.

[A]

Black is us. Black is usually out of control, right?

[E]

What?

[A]

He was very much in control.

[C]

Oh, so you think he was red?

[A]

I think he was like, yeah, he was red. He was like orange. Yeah, he was pretty controlled.

[C]

I mean, I mean, you know what?

[A]

Jerry would have said, Stop, stop.

[C]

I'll shoot you the back.

[A]

He just did it instead.

[C]

So. So Jerry.

[B]

Because he said, bro.

[F]

That was him.

[A]

All right, Lewis, moving on.

[C]

Dealer's choice.

[A]

Moving on.

[B]

Let's just start from the left.

[A]

There you go. Hit that. Now, since we started from the right, let's start from the left. Go ahead, Lewis. Do whatever they want.

[B]

Nope, Other hand. Just put your hands up there for me.

[A]

This video, this. So the reload was epic. I want you to. This guy's. Stay in the fight, ground fighting, and just. This is really good. Where this, I believe, a Michigan state trooper. Super. Watch this guy's. Watch this guy. This is good. Turn around. Just turn around. There's all the car.

[C]

What are you reaching for?

[A]

23 fighting. Much smaller guy. Look at that. Control the hands. Use the knees. Look at that. Block, block with the knees.

[C]

Get back on your.

[A]

Look at that mount.

[B]

Full mouth.

[A]

Yeah, he's shooting. The black guy's shooting. He's about to shoot for the last guy. No, he got his own gun. Okay. Officer's holding this gun there with his right hand.

[D]

And you're gonna see.

[A]

You're gonna see a disengage and send to Jesus. He has the location on camera. Don't fight, man.

[D]

Look at that.

[F]

Confirmation of disappointment to the Big man upstairs.

[A]

Yep. He's got that gun hand pinned with the guy's gun in the hand.

[F]

There it is.

[A]

Good night.

[C]

Game's over.

[A]

Good night. That is epic. Excellent.

[F]

He's probably exhausted after that.

[B]

Well, here's the. The first. The number one thing to take away from this is that that I was talking to somebody the other day. And this is a reminder that not all people fight you to get away.

[A]

Some people.

[B]

His part of getting away is making sure you're not getting up. And he knows without. He especially knew that cop, without neutralizing that cop, that cop wasn't going to stop, he wasn't going to take a hit and go run. That cop was going to stand fight. So that guy was.

[A]

But the wherewithal to what are we taught all of us as young cops was to get back, get away, create distance.

[C]

Distance.

[A]

If that guy creates a distance, he's dead. That guy's gonna kill him with the gun. He gets the guy's shooting and he's getting closer, pinning the hand down and he knows that right hand gets free. I'm dead.

[B]

He.

[F]

He must have. I mean, even if you get in contact, he probably does some type of ground.

[A]

Absolutely.

[F]

I would, I would. This is a thing that I was taught by a phenomenal fto. I would never pull somebody out of the vehicle and put them bladed middle of the vehicle. I'd have them face the crook of the door, door face away from me. So if they decide to buck or run, I could just throw their weight and hips into the crease of that door and they're not doing nothing. No, that was the best. I'm a small guy, so that was the best thing for me to kind of open up that door. Hey, turn a face that way. Put your hands above the door.

[C]

Hey, what is this?

[D]

A D.J.

[C]

Shipley calls. He calls it knowledge transfer. This is your knowledge transfer.

[A]

Yeah. That's a. That's a good video to watch. And when you know the last two, those last two videos show the difference between dancing around on tick tock and not taking the job serious versus Tick tock ops. Absolutely. Versus absolutely taking the job serious.

[F]

I'm officer Brandon and I'm going to show you what I get from Starbucks.

[A]

Oh, then they put the. I want a black coffee. And then the written order.

[B]

Mike and him are like, do we just become best friends?

[A]

I know, go ahead.

[F]

Yes.

[C]

Did we just become first friends?

[A]

There's a homeless guy laying on the ground, right?

[F]

That was the place he decided to take a nap.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, my God, man.

[A]

I'm about to call Sarge.

[B]

Play it one more time since it happened so fast.

[F]

It happened. 80, 84, 85.

[B]

Get rid. You can get rid of it.

[C]

Oh my God, the noises I got.

[B]

He's driving. He's like, man, they only put speed bumps on the right side of the parking lot.

[F]

Where did they put that there? Show me 1098 Papa.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

I don't know the context of that video. I just know it makes me laugh.

[A]

He's not at fault. No bum laying there gave him a distractionary blow with the right front tire.

[F]

It's a distraction.

[A]

Distractionary blow with the right front. If you didn't notice, the homeless guy was aggressive on the ground, resisting getting.

[B]

Out of the way of my car.

[A]

He was resisting and we used a right front bumper engagement to distract him. Him. Yep. Start. Go ahead. The next one. You're running it now. You're. You're double parked here.

[E]

Is this your car?

[B]

Oh, this is a good one.

[C]

You have some on you. Okay, you have some on.

[D]

You.

[A]

Can shoot. You stop. Stop right now. Shoot you. Do you understand me? You're going to get shot.

[F]

12:20.

[A]

12:20'S running.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You heard it?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then he got.

[B]

This is a multiple angle thing. I don't know if you guys want to watch all the angles, but hit it again.

[A]

Hit the net. Keep going, Lewis. Double parking. Double park, double park.

[B]

This is effect. This is an effective street crime squad right here.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Shoot you.

[B]

Stop.

[C]

Stop right now.

[A]

Now shoot you.

[C]

Do you understand me?

[A]

You're going to get shot. So he's got the gun. He picks it back up, drops again. Again.

[D]

No more.

[B]

No more, no more.

[A]

Hills of mon.

[B]

He already showed.

[C]

He already picked it up once.

[F]

He already showed that he was willing to get retrieve the weapon the first cycle.

[B]

Hold on, hold on. When it. I want to make sure you're big, Lewis. You can bring it back down. Yeah, now you're back. It.

[F]

It shows that he already had intent. Right. He dropped the gun and then he went back retreat to go pick it up. So then he dropped it a second time.

[C]

You can only assume he's probably gonna try again.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean and you don't know what.

[A]

Else he might have Instructions were pretty clear.

[B]

I can't stress enough like that is an effective goon squad. Walking into the hood projects looking. Looking for guys with guns and you. Anybody, any constitutionalist or any anti cop is going to be double parking. What? Dude you use. You use everything. But you looked at me funny to stop people and then when they start doing that, when they start the first mumbling.

[A]

Year, year and a half of my career, about 95 of my foot pursuit started with an open container.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Because they would sit outside the gas station and drink and I would be like, hey man, you got to open beer here on that county road. There we go.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And drugs in the pond.

[B]

The real OGs that know, you know, Mike ain't gonna take me to jail for no open container. Nope.

[F]

So constructive leverage. Because now you can sit there, be like, listen, I'm not. I have. I have discretion. I'm not going to take you on for that open container.

[B]

But Mike, I ain't got no more money for no beers.

[A]

I don't think you can do anything. No.

[B]

That was an old man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, so an old white vet, huh?

[C]

So we had. Shaking his head at me sake. So we had, we had a guy on last week, Jack, big time criminal, professional criminal.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Knew this guy for a long time.

[F]

On the other side of the country.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I went to federal prison for drug.

[C]

Trafficking and film and was like, yeah, I. I knew this guy wasn't taking me to jail for some like that. Like, bro.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. He was coming at me for the big stuff. Because you, he was a, you were. How long were you a narcissist?

[A]

And a half years on the task force.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

That's crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

It's a big, that's a big devotion. But then you start to understand you, you develop this, this Rolodex of people that you, you bump into and it'. They're. They're going to help you in certain things passively or they're going to open up doors.

[A]

I'm putting together a reel and you know, I can't. 23 years and I started and I put myself in front of this camera for God knows why, but you would think all these people say I'm crooked. I did all these wild things. Zero messages that say that every message I've gotten from people who have finally found me, that I've arrested have all said, dude, you were so fair. I was a up. I've recovered. I did this. I was a criminal. But you treated me fair. You treated me like a human. Now there are people that don't. Not everybody I dealt with is going to say that nice things about.

[F]

Right.

[A]

But you would think by this point of being gone a year and being on podcast, you'd have somebody go, I got that. I got something for him. I got this story right now.

[F]

He's gonna help you.

[A]

Oh, that's the.

[F]

Brush them off, help them out, give them water. Right. Because they're human. At the end of the day, once I get you in cuffs, it's watering.

[A]

I used to keep $20 and ones on my visor.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Two bucks, go buy yourself. So can't condone buying alcohol. But, yeah, that four pack of Natty, like 314 down at the store. Here's your three bucks. Yeah. Next thing you know, hey, that dude over there has got a gun. That dude over there has got crack in his pocket. I'll be like, okay.

[F]

Like human beings.

[C]

It's just.

[F]

It's the other side of the. The life that we.

[C]

Hey, angel, great, great job bringing this guy tonight.

[A]

I mean, you're contributing nothing, but he's doing very well.

[F]

Found me. He's like, I found him at the.

[C]

You look like a guy got him at Home Depot.

[B]

What?

[C]

One last time. He was there for work yet.

[F]

Do you like podcast?

[C]

Sure.

[F]

Hop in the car.

[B]

It's the reverse where Hispanic drive up.

[A]

And they go, hey, white guy.

[B]

You like your podcast? I got a podcast.

[F]

We got.

[C]

Clip that. We gotta clip that.

[A]

What. What time is this?

[B]

Where do you find. Where do you find white guys? At what stores?

[C]

Starbucks.

[F]

Starbucks.

[C]

Drive by.

[B]

Who wants to talk on a podcast?

[C]

I was gonna say, did you guys see that big brawl? Did you guys see that brawl in Texas with a grand opening of a fast.

[B]

No, I did. It was.

[C]

Yeah, it was like seven people fist.

[F]

Fighting to get like 50% off.

[C]

No, it was just like dads.

[F]

It was just a bunch of dads and flannel.

[C]

Yes, yes. White guy in flannel in Texas throwing hands at the grand opening of the Bass Pro Shop.

[F]

That's the way we kick it off.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Somebody in the comments said, louis.

[F]

Listen.

[C]

I'm gonna tell you this right now, okay? If you're. If you're a man, you don't go to Lowe's. You go to Home Depot, okay? Lowe's is for your wife. That's what it's for.

[B]

Aren't they the same store? They are not different colors.

[C]

Don't even. Don't even say that blasphemy to me.

[A]

I thought it was like Real Target.

[B]

Because they still sell cigarettes, only get CVs.

[C]

Yeah. You're not wrong, though. You're not wrong.

[B]

Every time I see a cvs, I'm.

[C]

Is a. Yeah, it's like the vibe.

[A]

Is off in cvs.

[B]

Sketchy vibe.

[F]

Everybody is sketchy. Like, what are you doing here at 12 midnight?

[C]

Yeah, well, it's like when you go to Walmart? I mean like how. How many arrests did you guys make at Walmart? I'm just curious.

[B]

Not even, not even counting theft. Just.

[A]

We had like one year. We had four officer involved shootings in the whole county. All four of them were from Walmart. All four? One was on accident because a guy just happened to throw in there and.

[C]

Like every other got ran over. He was lay asleep.

[F]

There's fishermen that have their holds. Like you're not getting anything else. Here's the old faithful.

[A]

When I had the accent, I got one of the first Axon threes with the tag reader. You drive through Walmart, Parks license, this, that. It was crazy.

[F]

Warrants.

[B]

Let me give a shout out to. I'm gonna give a shout out to flatline fiber company. Flatlinefiber code.com use promo code anti hero15. I can't see it, but it's 15, right?

[A]

Yep. Yeah.

[B]

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[C]

Hey guys.

[A]

It was there this morning. It's the same thing thing if you were to told me earlier.

[B]

Yeah, it's got to be in streamyard.

[A]

Yeah, how is it not there from this morning?

[C]

Hey, we gotta pay the bills, guys. I gotta go on life support here pretty soon.

[B]

One of those ox.

[C]

That's weird, Louis.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

I know where it is somewhere on here. Oh, it's not on this computer.

[B]

We gotta talk about Dick Cheney dying.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I was gonna say that's on the thumbnail.

[B]

So while Lewis looks Dick loading it real quick. All right, for you guys that are less than 35 years old, Dick Cheney was the reason why we went to war in Iraq.

[A]

Yeah, he had intel, there was weapons of mass destruction.

[B]

Paul Bremer had a lot to do with us staying there for the Department of State.

[A]

But.

[C]

But Dick Cheney made millions and millions of dollars on Kellogg Brown and Root.

[B]

Well, explain to us why Dick Cheney was an.

[C]

Okay, so first of all, Dick Cheney was what we would. Dick Cheney was a GU uniform on a day in his life. Not as a cop, not as a grunt, not as a. A marine, not a soldier, not a sailor, not an airman. He never put it on. But he was more than happy to send my ass and this guy's ass and this guy's ass. I Mean this guy's ass. And it would have been Mike if Mac hadn't been a cop because he was already thinking about going back in. Don't tell me you weren't, because I've heard you say it three times. Okay, we would. We all went down range. We. I went to Iraq. Me and Tyler and Iraq together at the same time. We just didn't know each other.

[B]

Mike served under General Washington.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean he was at Valley Ford.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Okay. The bottom line is, is we went into Iraq. And when I went into Iraq in 2003 as a 19 year old private first class, I was a true believer. I said there's weapons of mass destruction there because that's what my government told me. And we're going to find the bad guys and we're going to kill them. That's what I thought. And by 2005, as a jaded corporal, I was like, this is, this is, this is all. And I was watching Kellogg, Brown and Root contractors drive in and drive, Drive out, dropping supplies in the combat. Combat logistics patrol every single day. And you know who was making that money? Dick Cheney. That's who was making that money. So I'll dance on his grave. I would love to show the, the. The shotgun thing that, that Nate.

[B]

You and Nate both.

[C]

Yeah, that guy, that guy. I hope he's getting the red hot poker shoved up his ass right out.

[B]

So you think he.

[C]

You did change.

[B]

Create an entire war campaign?

[C]

It's not even that he. Just that he. He created the war. He sacrificed my life and his life and his life and your life. And would have. Would have gladly let us all die.

[A]

And other dudes that never came back.

[C]

And, and all my three. I mean you think that three of my best friends and nine total friends, but. And my absolute best friend, Joshua Barrett Madden, killed on December 6, 2006 in Hwija, Iraq. Was killed because. Because of Dick Cheney.

[D]

You.

[C]

Dick Cheney. I hope you burn in hell. Clip that.

[A]

Oh, damn. Someone said Navy nurse might be watching. I saw this somewhere else. He was the Churchill of our. Of our generation. Of our generation.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. The. The Churchill. Yeah.

[B]

Wait, so Churchill was war hungry too? For money?

[E]

Absolutely.

[C]

I mean, you mean, you mean like Winston Churchill? Yes.

[A]

Really?

[C]

You think so? Yeah. Somebody. Somebody, somebody said that. Okay. You don't actually think that there's always.

[F]

A prerogative if like a, like a.

[B]

War is always a lack when the.

[F]

Were supposed to be implemented?

[B]

I said this. I said I used to say this. And we're all starting to see this. I Used to say World War II was the last real war. We fought against evil. And now it's like, it's profit.

[C]

Dude. I mean, Smedley, Smedley Butler. Hey, hey, I got two marines here. Smedley Butler.

[E]

Hey.

[C]

Two marines, two medals, two metal.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Two marines, two medals. Dan Daly and Smedley Butler, sir. Yeah, Ask me how I know that. I'll tell you you later. Bentley Butler wrote a book called War is a Racket.

[B]

Oh yeah, for sure. It's a money making machine maker. The war, the industrial war complex. Is that what it's called?

[C]

Yeah, the military industrial complex.

[B]

Yeah, military industrial complex is the mick biggest money you could ever have. So I mean, because everybody needs more security. They need more armor, they need more bullets. So they need money to protect themselves against the bullets. They need money for the bullets to shoot at the people protecting.

[A]

And then sometimes we just leave like billions of dollars worth of equipment and buy and then we just do stuff.

[F]

It's kind of like, it's kind of like in a relationship when you're like, I, I left my CDs. Yeah, it gives you a reason, like.

[B]

I gotta go back.

[C]

Either that or it's like, hey, I left, I left this out here. It ain't worth it. Leave it behind. I'm out, I'm out. I mean, so I mean the, the number of casualties, like if you go to Fort Bennington, Georgia, if you go to Fort Benning, Georgia, every single person that was killed in the global war on terror, whether it was Iraq, Afghanistan, all the way up to 2023, all of their names are on granite right there at the Infantry Museum.

[A]

Home of the infantry.

[C]

Home of the infantry.

[B]

Only infantry dudes, right?

[C]

No, it's everybody, everybody, everybody's there. Okay, okay, if, if you died in combat, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, your name's on that wall. And there's a lot of dudes that were at 4 Fox or Alpha 254 or Bravo 150, they were infantry guys that went to Fort Benning, Georgia. And I was at Fort Benning on December or on September 11, 2001. I was going to the moving target range when the twin towers went down. And the next day it was, you are going to Afghanistan. You better get your goddamn mind right. And I didn't know a military that wasn't at war. And then you guys, when did you come in?

[F]

2000, 2008.

[B]

That's when I. Oh, I came in 2007.

[C]

Yeah, because you were with me in 2008. Well, you were with the 82nd. But you were, you were there.

[A]

You nine zero nine.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean now, now Mike was at Valley Forge. Okay. He was there under.

[A]

I was at Fort Benning 1990. April 11, 1996.

[F]

96.

[A]

April 11, 1996. I joined the United States Army.

[C]

Dude. He fdoed on a Noah.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I was a cop when 911 happened.

[C]

I mean but I mean you've said it a couple times, Mike. If you had not been a cop, you'd have gone back.

[A]

I was, I was ex. I wanted to stay in my. My wife at the time made me get out with a young kid and I had a job lined up as a cop back home.

[F]

I mean I probably saved your life though.

[A]

Yeah. But I was expect. I was still in my. I was just out a year and a half, two years. Barely two years out. I had my year contract of the eight year total. So I'm thinking, man, I'm a combat mos. I'm like, they're gonna call. Like I was, I was, I wanted to. To go and I, you know, it just, I like I said enough people in the reserves and, and you know, it never happened, but it was.

[C]

Did.

[A]

It was all the. Everybody I know and knew that I served with all went because they had, they were still in. It was, it was, it was a weird thing to be a cop. It was. It was pretty strange on that side as well to feel left the helpless. The helplessness. And it's a. It was a weird feeling as a cop.

[B]

I think that's why so many cops volunteered to go to ground zero because it was a way to actually physically.

[A]

Help that and like having the military background, knowing that everybody was going to war. I remember walking in the. I. Yeah. As an infant. Yeah. I had two young daughters at the time. They're both babies. They were like two years apart. And I remember walking in the room and just checking to see if they're breathing. Looking at them, watching that all go down and I'm thinking, man, obviously we're going to war. Everybody I know is getting ready to go to war. I'm here as a cop. It was like, what's going on? And not well known. Fact is two of the. I'm in Vero Beach, Florida. Two of the pilots actually trained. Yeah. At. In Vero beach at the flight Academy. So our SWAT team had a direct connect to 9 11.

[C]

So if you had been IRR. If you've been. Because you. You were still IR. If you've been called back 100, dude.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Did you ever. I mean, I. We. You and I have never talked about this. Like, did you ever, like, as a grunt, like, look at it and kind.

[A]

Of feel like, man, yeah, yeah, you have that especially. I was still young. I still was. You know, I was young. I just got out. I had that feeling like I did this for a reason, and now the reason I can't go do something.

[C]

The reason.

[A]

Yeah, like, it was like, man, like this.

[C]

Like, because you knew some of your friends were going down because you weren't out that long? No, like, you. You know, like, guys from 509th, they're. They're going to the war right now.

[A]

Plenty of them that went and talked to them and all. So it was. It was a weird. But then at the same time, I'm like, well, I have a job here.

[C]

There.

[A]

This is an important job. It was just, you know, it's only two jobs. I know.

[B]

I was.

[A]

I was a cop in the military for 26 years.

[C]

I want to paint this picture, and you can tell me if I. If I'm wrong. So here you are. You're like, hey, I'm. I'm a cop, and this is an important job. This is a. This is a very important job to do, and it really is serving my community. It's serving my country. And, yeah, okay, I'm not an infantryman out there firing a 240 machine gun, but I'm. I'm still serving my country. Now Fast forward to 24 years later with the. The way that everything.

[B]

Oh, you lucked out.

[C]

That's not what I. That's not what I was going for. I was going for. For 24 years later.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Like, you're like, man, I. I sacrificed so much, including going back in with my buddies for this job and the way you got treated.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, I think, like Tyler said, a bunch. I'm not taking anything away from what? What, the guys. People that died, the people that went to war.

[C]

Horrible.

[A]

But cops deal with a of lot lot daily.

[F]

Agreed.

[A]

It doesn't. You know, you may. Like, I rolled the dice. I didn't go to war. There's a lot of guys that didn't go to war in the military that served you guys. When there's a war going on, you're over there. You know, every day is. It's 100%.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

As a comp. Like you talk about, one minute you're in the cop, you're in there getting a drink, you're getting a coffee. The next minute you're at A death scene. The next minute you're at a bank robbery. The next minute you're at abducted child. The ups and downs of law enforcement on your mental health and your brain. It's just a long term drawn out. It is 100 and I don't know that one's worse than the other. Like I said, guys watch their buddies get blown up and killed. And you know, it's, it's. I, I had. I didn't anybody. My friends get. But I've seen so many dead people.

[F]

I think as a, as law enforcement, you're. You're a little closer to home. Like you can drag in some of.

[A]

That dirt and that's again like, you go away.

[F]

It's like this general direction is your problem. Take care of. And then you come back to base and then you hop on a plane, you come back home and you have at least some space to decompress.

[A]

The same car every day, drive the same streets. People wonder like, man, that guy died over there last week.

[F]

That's not the good stuff.

[B]

I have something for every street.

[C]

It's crazy house and, and, and, and by the way, any of the. The G Watt vets that are in and nobody is absolutely not apples and oranges. It is fucking apples.

[A]

And if you drive, drive with me and I don't do this. But if you were. If you said let's do it and we drove through my town there wouldn't it. You'd be a hard press to find a stretch of more than maybe a mile. Where? I can't tell you. I arrested a guy there. I saw the guy get killed in a car accident there. I worked a terrible call there. There was a stabbing all over it just all that stuff is spinning in your brain for 20. You know, I did it for 23 years.

[C]

And it's just, I mean in, in my time in the G Watt. So I did. I did four deployments. I got 56 months combat time.

[B]

That is so much, Jimmy.

[F]

That's a lot.

[C]

I. I don't really.

[B]

How are you did. You did four. 56 months overseas and you're.

[C]

I did. So.

[B]

So let me ask. Are we.

[C]

Yeah. So I don't give a. I do.

[E]

Because I'm.

[B]

I'm fine to get 100.

[A]

Everybody heard that.

[C]

Angel and I are working on getting me to 100.

[B]

But I mean you. There should be a point where you're like, you did how many months?

[C]

So here, here's the thing. So I get. I come out of basic training.

[B]

Everybody heard that, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, it Was loud.

[C]

I come out of basic training whispering, and I go to. Yeah, okay, I go to the 25th. And I was pissed because you know where I wanted to go? 82nd, 101st, 82nd, and 173rd.

[A]

Dope on a rope or.

[C]

No, not 173rd. 10 Mountain. I want to go to 82nd, 170, or 10th Mountain or.

[A]

Come on. Come on, Jimmy.

[C]

I'm sorry, man. I'm three drinks in.

[A]

Come on, Jimmy.

[D]

Come on.

[C]

Off. I mean, I. I wanted to go to 18th Airborne Corp. I. Because I grew up. Okay. I. 18 airborne. Son of a. I know, dude. He's such a cut. He's such a dick.

[A]

Hey.

[F]

Hey, Mike.

[C]

How about you have a cup of Shut the up? Just sit over here. The. The combat. The guys with cibs are talking.

[F]

Can I get that one?

[C]

Ice? Yeah, yeah. So I. I grew up in Fort Worth, Bragg, and I knew that. 80 seconds.

[D]

Gonna go.

[C]

101St, gonna go. 10th Mountain's gonna go. That's where I wanted to go when I came out of basic training. When I. So when I leave Fort Benning, that's. Those are the three places I wanted to go. And they posted it all on the board. They. There's big court, you know, they don't have many more. There's a cork board with a little pin.

[B]

Your orders.

[C]

Yeah. Where everybody's going. And I got orders to Schofield Barracks, 25th Infantry Division in Hawaii. And I had. I had shot expert. I had done. I had done everything well. I was a platoon guide for a while. Like, I. I was doing good at basic training in AIT I was doing good. And I thought, like, why am I not going to airborne school? Because it wasn't in my contract. But I volunteered. And a lot of people don't know this. Like, you can not have airborne in your contract, but you can volunteer while you're there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And you'll get set. And I volunteered. And I. I didn't go.

[B]

You know what? And then.

[A]

You're not a leg, are you?

[D]

Huh?

[A]

You're not a leg, are you?

[C]

I am.

[A]

Holy.

[C]

I'm a dope on.

[D]

No, it's.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's worse than that.

[A]

Threw the CIB at me. And you're a leg.

[C]

I would dope on a rope, too.

[A]

I have that. I have that one as well.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I have the tower. I have the tower power.

[B]

The crudness of the military, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When they put your orders up on the board and they go, who, the Jimmy Arnett?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I am they're like, your stupid ass is going to 25th in Hawaii. Like everybody else is going to 80 seconds.

[C]

Yeah. So, like, I'm getting slayed, but I'm like, as a leg, As a. I'm, I'm not gonna go to airborne school. Even though I volunteered. I, I, I'm not going anywhere. And I went to my senior drill sergeant. I went to Drill Sergeant Snodgrass because I still remember every drill sergeant. Yeah, I, I went to Drill Sergeant Snodgrass dress. And I said, why am I not going? Why am I not doing this?

[A]

Because conservative chocolate says you gotta be a dumb to not get airborne school. Yeah.

[C]

So. And yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, hey, hey.

[A]

First guy did not get airborne. Fall out of a plane, man.

[F]

Push out of the blade.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Dude.

[C]

As much as you guys are joking me about it, imagine how much I was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How the. Did you go to 80s? No. You went to 25th. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

[C]

I went to 25th.

[A]

You did? To go to airborne or air assault school. Yeah, I went to air school at Campbell.

[C]

No, it's out there.

[A]

Oh, is it? Yeah, because somebody. I saw somebody talk about drumming is tough in winter. I went to air assault School, Fort Drum.

[F]

Oh.

[A]

January of 1990.

[C]

Christ.

[A]

1998. As the only airborne guy in the whole class. So I was around all legs getting smoked. I was from Fort Polk all the way in.

[C]

Toughest week and a half of your life, dude.

[B]

And it.

[A]

That's a hard school. That's not easy, that sling load stuff.

[C]

Sling load was hard?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Sling load's hard. Yeah.

[F]

We don't, we don't get fancy schools like that.

[A]

No, they just do you do you just.

[C]

So I went to the Marine Scout Sniper School at Kaneohe Bay, and we sent Marines to our.

[F]

Well, we did. So Busos and I were part of a support squadron. Right. So staff heavy. It was like a staff transitional unit. They would come in, get a little bit of experience underneath their belt, mentoring, training Marines in that kind of way, and then it would go off to whatever additional unit I was at that unit for Marines, usually transition units, every two to three years. I was stuck at that unit for my five, six years on active. That I, I did. Right. So I saw people come and go, and we had an opportunity to go to jump school, and then they had a, a handful of us out there. And then two days before they pulled the rug out from half of us to junior enlisted, I was a.

[A]

No, no, no. It was, that was part of it.

[C]

But we also had the government shutdown at that time. Oh, so that was 2011.

[A]

So.

[C]

Yeah, 2010.

[A]

You and I are the only airborne guys in here.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So we're special chairs or something.

[C]

But, but we can't be around. You know what, though? So, so my, my buddy, My buddy Greg Leach, who is the reason I'm on the show because him, him and Brett Tucker. Brett Tucker. Brent Tucker. Brent Tucker Brent. We're buddies. I, I, I got my, I, I got my civilian free fall stuff with Greg.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

So, I mean, I have jumped out of a plane several times. Just not on a static line.

[B]

No, let's. We got a couple videos. There's so many. Good. These were, these videos were handpicked.

[C]

I'm so sorry.

[F]

You gotta curate it.

[A]

Yeah. Another video. Those.

[C]

Nobody wants to hear myself.

[A]

Go back to the right one. If you have any airborne. If you have any airborne videos, you can play those.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Right there, real quick. We got, we got a super chat from Marcus village of choice.

[C]

I can't pull it out on camera.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[F]

I was like, pull your dick out.

[A]

Before you pull that.

[C]

So, so yeah.

[F]

So you've never done a desk?

[C]

I, I, I did whips and I learned to carry the Glock 19. I carry a Glock 19. I carry Glock 19 all the time. Mike, what do you got?

[A]

I carry a Sig P365 Spectre Comp with Romeo Zero.

[B]

He's a sigger.

[C]

Yeah, he's a, He's a dirty sigger.

[F]

Whoos.

[A]

43.

[F]

You got the 43.

[B]

I want the 43.

[F]

I have a, I'm a Smith and Wesson guy.

[C]

Are you an M and P guy?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I got an M and.

[F]

B pro at the house.

[C]

What do you, what do you got on me?

[D]

Right.

[C]

What do you got on you right now?

[F]

I got a Smith and Wesson compact.

[C]

Hey, hey, just in case anybody comes.

[B]

To the door like you're, you're what you got?

[A]

What's your everyday care, dude?

[B]

What if he pulled out?

[A]

Know we're talking about.

[C]

He's over there like, like a Colt Py.

[A]

Talk some now we're talking about guns. You don't carry gun.

[C]

We're gonna. Hang on. I got a big word. I got a big word. We're gonna inculcate him. Inculcate in him to the culture of let's use.

[F]

Let's go real quick.

[D]

Awesome.

[B]

Marcos, I saw you in the chats, bro. Thank you so much.

[A]

Thank you. All right. Yeah.

[B]

Let's do a video.

[A]

This.

[F]

Like laughing.

[A]

That's not park.

[F]

He didn't put it in park and then jumped out.

[A]

That was a Toronto, Canada.

[B]

No, it's not a real place.

[C]

No, it's not a real.

[E]

If you.

[A]

If they're on south park, their heads move, you're good.

[B]

So let's talk about this real quick. Hold on. First off, that is literally like it happening at Walmart in America. It happened at a Tim Hortons in Canada.

[C]

Timmy's happened at a Timmy's.

[B]

So that put the car in park, the poor guy. Which. This happens all the time. Cops leave their.

[E]

Wait, wait.

[B]

So their car in park and then.

[C]

The jump out boys don't have like a.

[D]

Like a.

[B]

No.

[A]

Every cop has done it. Every cop is done.

[F]

I've done it.

[B]

And it didn't run anything.

[F]

Can I give you that story? Go for it.

[A]

Are we allowed to talk about cop stuff?

[F]

Are we. Can we.

[B]

You got it. You got a 15 minute.

[A]

Not Clint.

[F]

It's gonna be very quick. New Year's. New Year's. I was going for a. A straight round that struck a vehicle. Guy was coming out getting his wallet. Went to walk back in. As soon as he passed that rear window, the round struck. So if he delayed anymore, he would have been hit. Parked across the street, Florida. We have rolling curbs. Not really like high standing curves. Went to go and put my Impala Imp park. I put a lot of emphasis in park and I guess I didn't set it in all the way. Had my rear lights on, waiting for my secondary to come up on scene just so he knew where I was at. My back is to my squad. I'm talking to the guy. And then the red and blue start to dissipate from my background. And I'm like, turn around. My car's not there. I like, give me a second real quick. And this guy's in a robe. Give me. Give me a second.

[B]

I go back up to the street.

[F]

I look right and I don't see anything. I look left. I see two cars, my car and a red sedan behind it. I'm like. I think the extreme. This guy's stealing my car. I'd be damned. I'm not going to be on the brief in the morning, right? So I start chasing after it. I get closer. I don't holster my weapon. This guy peels off and goes around my car at slow roam. 5 mph.

[A]

Were you able to get in it?

[F]

Oh, so. So two, three houses down, flat front yard and a palm grove. My push bumper slow rolls and bumps the palm grove. I run past And I'm like, gun up. This female. Yeah. No, I'm thinking like, I'm thinking the worst, right? Adrenaline's pumping. I was young, naive female walks out the house and she's like, oh my God. And her boyfriend walked out before it's like, jesus Christ, Becky, get in the house. He has a gun. I go to the driver's side door and I'm like. And I had tent on my squad car. Throw my light on. I don't see any movement. I went to go and reach and it's locked.

[A]

I'm like, oh, man, you did it all.

[F]

I did it all. Debated on not saying anything, but because I made contact, called the sergeant out, and then thank God I did, because that person that owned a property, mine.

[A]

Was very similar, except there was a cop car in front of me. And in order to not make contact with the car, I jumped in between them and let it hit me. It was only going like three or four miles an hour. I put it. What happened happened was we have a lot of dirt roads and where, where I worked, it was, it was in a little.

[F]

In a rut.

[A]

And as my buddy walked by, bumped a car and it put it, it gave it enough momentum. And I'm looking and it's going at the other cop car and I just jumped in between and let it hit me right in the leg. I'm like, nope, not a crash. Didn't hit the other car. I'm like, it hit me. So that was my.

[F]

It gets the best of us.

[A]

Yeah. I got. We get some good pictures of our agency. We had a chick lever Explorer in rever reverse and it went into a pond. I got a picture of just the footage. Hey, you can't park there.

[E]

Oh, Explorer of the lake.

[A]

What one hit the next one? As we keep us moving, keep us moving.

[C]

Seconds count in life saving instances.

[A]

You know, fire grows exponentially over, you know, every second that, that it passes. You might think AI would help firefighters get to you sooner. The drive cam that's placed on the windshield and that watches everything that they do. But according to Matthew Coster, IAFF Local 734 union president, it's doing the opposite. The system is called Linux Drive Cam.

[E]

And one is mounted in every fire truck and EMT vehicle.

[A]

Here's a demo of the software which.

[E]

Tracks a driver's every move and identifies what the AI may consider a traffic.

[A]

Infraction, even rolling stop signs.

[E]

It was only to be used for accidents only which.

[A]

Which we don't have a problem with. But Koster says The system has been.

[C]

Used as a way to discipline firefighters.

[A]

To scrutinize every aspect of a response is insanely unfair. Stopping at every stoplight, not saying I want people running through red lights and killing people, but as safely as we.

[E]

Can, we still can control the intersection.

[A]

Per state law and get there in a time fashion. According to state law, an emergency vehicle.

[C]

May pass a red or stop signal.

[A]

A stop sign or a yield sign. But.

[B]

So the important thing to take away from this is that firefighters are now having to deal with. They're, they're about five, six years behind us and all of our. Is cops, Linux. What's it called? Linux.

[F]

Is it the bot, like body cam stuff?

[B]

No, what it is is, it's, it's actually a system that's meant for trucking companies to monitor driving. So what it does is it measures GeForce and it's, and it, it's a, it's a video of your in car and a video of your out. It's a split screen, two of them Amazon drivers. And it takes eight seconds before it happened and gives it eight seconds additional roll. So you're looking at 16 seconds of every time. So what it's doing is it's meant for safety, it's meant for this. And as soon as brass can see, see infractions, they start throwing paper at you. So you might go and slam on your brakes on a hot call and you're running code and they're like, your seat belt wasn't on. You're like, I just, you saw me take it off. I just, I'm rolling up on the shooting. You need to wait until you're all the way there for you to take your seatbelt off.

[F]

Can you tell me what temperature your office is as you're telling me this?

[A]

Yeah, it's, it's one of those things.

[F]

How hot is your car?

[A]

Want cops to get there fast, fast. And, and that requires not breaking the law. It requires you to push it to the limit, which is rolling a stop sign, going a little bit over the speed limit. Not because you're late to work, not because you know you're trying to get to your side. None of that stuff. Because you're trying to get back up or a call or get to the citizen faster. And if you make a mistake, you're a for doing it. If you get there too slow, you're a piece of, for not getting there fast enough. You become just live in that world of like you can't do anything right.

[B]

And, and this drive cam system also is not meant obviously for first responding vehicles because you can't, you can't use GeForce as an indicator to start because of how fast I drive.

[A]

That thing would have got me every.

[B]

Day it goes off. And so it, it got to the point in the agency, I've. I've driven with one for six years.

[E]

What?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, they've had it for six years. It's not a. It's not meant for first responders. It's meant for trucking companies that drive. They're supposed to drive. Drive the speed limit. They're supposed to stop.

[F]

And it.

[B]

The videos get sent to civilians in California who are not first responders, who.

[F]

Are not any type of people.

[B]

They're like of information. He wasn't doing this. He wasn't doing that. He didn't have both hands on the steering wheel. He was distracted while driving.

[A]

He was.

[B]

And they said a litany of stuff. And you're running code to a stabbing.

[A]

I didn't know that. But then when, what happens then when you get that call and a guy goes, oh, I got written up for going to a robbery too fast. I'm gonna drive the speed limit to this kid choking or I'm gonna drive the speed limit to this burglary and I'll get there when I get there. It's like, what a joke.

[F]

Roosevelt, the man in the arena. Love that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're not wrong. You're not wrong, brother. Yeah.

[A]

No, I.

[F]

Because then you create complacency.

[C]

I'm gonna read the quote. I'm gonna find it for you.

[A]

But here's the thing. Here's the.

[C]

Let's go for it.

[A]

Here we go.

[F]

Reach.

[A]

Here's the thing.

[B]

Let them cook if you.

[A]

They don't care if you get there to save the life because what they'll go say is Little Johnny was going to die is his day. God called him home. And you get there. But if you drive like a. And get there, which you should and you save them, you're still in trouble. They're. They're willing to take the risk. They're willing to take the risk on little Johnny dying so that you drive the speed limit and the GeForce doesn't go on, you didn't bring it. He was going to die anyway. But if you drive like a. Which you should to get there to save little John Johnny. Well, you saved them.

[F]

But always a but.

[D]

But.

[A]

But you did all this on the.

[F]

Way there because now it's them, it's their ego that's dictating that because they should be. As a leader, you should answer and justify.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

The means of making sure that your guys get on scene to save or support or suppress.

[A]

We don't have the benefit, though, of going knowing he would have a little Jaquan.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Anyway, you don't have the benefit of going. Going. Well, he might have that. Well, he didn't. He didn't.

[B]

So.

[F]

And they don't carry that because we.

[A]

You're off.

[F]

We carry that. The losses and the.

[D]

The.

[A]

We as put the weight on us to go it. I'm going 90 to get there.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And I saved his life. And I know I'm gonna get in trouble for saving his life. I know. I know I'm gonna get in trouble. I'll tell you. I drove code to a call one time, like, so bad. My. My guy was in a fight in the house, and I drove like a maniac, and a complaint compl. Came in, and it was on the wrong car. It was on me, but they gave the wrong vehicle description. So I took the complaint and I was like, I'm gonna talk to that guy. I got him, man.

[C]

It was a gray.

[A]

It was a gray suv. I drive a black brown pickup truck. And I was like, I know. He. It was exactly where I was. I was driving the wrong way. Everything. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna get on him. Yeah, he's done. I'm like, but it was me. It was like, we got that one wrong. But I was going to an officer that needed help. I was going all the way. I was going to the die. It was one of. Roll the truck over to get there different.

[F]

When you're in it, when you're at it too long, especially brass, you start to separate yourself, start thinking more paper than you do people.

[B]

And.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

So, I mean, here. Here's the quote, right? And this is what he was referencing.

[A]

This is from the Jaquan quote or.

[C]

No, no, shut the up, dude. He's already losing his mind. Like, we're trying to get on the radio. Jimmy. What the. I'm gonna get on. I'm getting paper after this. Like, I'm getting.

[B]

I've known tons of ethnicities named Jaquan. That doesn't matter.

[A]

I'm gonna hold you to that. Next next Episode. I got three of them.

[B]

I plan on naming my future son Jaquan.

[C]

So this is. This is.

[F]

This is Teddy Roosevelt.

[C]

This is Theodore Roosevelt. We got. We got a whole aircraft carrier, AKA Jquan. Hey, we got our. We got our token Mexican here. Well, and all the little pygmies other. And I'm sorry for that, Lord.

[F]

Go ahead.

[C]

This is not. I'm gonna give you that.

[B]

Way too long, guys.

[A]

All right, go ahead. Give me.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

I'm gonna give something intelligent.

[C]

I'm gonna give you the dramatic.

[A]

Cover it up with something intelligent.

[C]

I'm gonna give you the dramatic reading. It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the are arena. Whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who airs, who comes short again and again. But there is no effort without error and shortcoming. But who does actually strive to do the deeds? Who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy call cause who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement. Who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails. We're daring greatly so that his place shall never be without those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

[F]

I felt like I needed to be.

[C]

I feel like I was trying to do it like Jocko. Did I do it like Jocko?

[B]

Promotional warrior.

[C]

I'm glad I wore my boner pants. I feel like I. I was trying. I was trying to do it like Jocko.

[A]

That was good.

[F]

Love it. I really enjoy that quote.

[C]

Yeah, it's a great quote. But I mean, like, there's a lot of admin pukes out there.

[F]

There's a lot of psychic reading books and. Listen.

[A]

We canceled yet?

[B]

No.

[A]

Get a pee.

[E]

How much?

[A]

Where we going?

[C]

We're going a little over.

[D]

We got.

[B]

We got videos.

[A]

We got.

[B]

Oh, you guys wanted to do cop talk.

[E]

All right, go ahead.

[A]

L. Sorry.

[C]

I apologize. And I apologize.

[B]

Making infant noises.

[C]

I got a smoke.

[A]

Good. Down. That was rather uneventful. Yeah.

[B]

No, no, that. That is what. That. That is what pumps up the squad right there. That. Him making it personal. That for one. For 10 seconds. That cop wasn't a cop. That cop was somebody. Somebody that just got mom rushed and took that dude down.

[A]

I forgot.

[B]

He's trying to be like you.

[A]

I forgot. We didn't. We didn't give a Chicago update.

[B]

Yeah, we have it in a couple episodes. That. But that video made me happy because, you know that whole. All that crew is pumped up after that. There was no around with the police at that intersection.

[A]

Very slow Halloween weekend in Chicago. Two killed and 21 wounded. That's it.

[C]

That's not even a whole platoon.

[A]

That's very.

[C]

That's not even a whole platoon.

[A]

No. And I'm. I'm not on that video. That was a great takedown. Great again. Definitely. They train some type of ground fighting game. The way he wrapped that guy up.

[C]

Yeah, that was. Bro.

[D]

It was.

[A]

You on overtime tonight? I mean, keeping you late?

[C]

Yeah. Hey, hey.

[A]

Not very late.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Soon as the boss says we're done, we're done. Yeah.

[C]

When the boss says we're done, we're.

[A]

Play another video while he's gone. Yeah.

[C]

Play another. Another one. Do what Mike said.

[A]

Have an educated conversation about it. Are we done? That's a long one. That's a long one. We'll wait for him to get back. We're not going to watch that whole thing. It was at this moment. Moment he knew he up. I have no idea why the. Those guys. That is a miserable job. It is. That is a miserable.

[C]

I mean, dude, I look at what cops do and I go, it's a miserable job. Why would I want a long time.

[A]

That's a miserable job.

[F]

You know, like getting into that.

[A]

Yeah. I need to take a few minutes real quick.

[C]

Go pissed.

[A]

Lewis needs a break, man. You got him working overtime, man.

[C]

Yeah, his. His glider can only handle two hours.

[A]

No videos. You're good. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're good.

[C]

You're good. Go, Lewis.

[A]

Go ahead. I can run this. I can run it.

[C]

You can run it. I can DJ now we're gonna have.

[B]

To talk to each other for a minute.

[A]

We've been talking. You've been shutting us up. You want videos? Jimmy was cooking. Jimmy was reading the president.

[B]

Dude, that was pretty good.

[C]

We saw that too. I mean, like, I can. I actually do have some skills beyond just like reading, like talking about like, current events.

[B]

Yeah, you're.

[A]

I gotta ask him.

[C]

What?

[A]

Do we land on the moon?

[C]

No.

[A]

Oh, good.

[C]

Okay. Get the out of here.

[B]

You were there when we talked about it.

[A]

It.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

About the moon landing.

[A]

Oh, the fake landing. Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

He believes in the moon landing.

[B]

You know what, Jimmy? I think it's honest opinion.

[F]

I think it's something that Ted Lemon.

[B]

Tree and that you mean something to you because of what you. Like how the time you spent with your dad researching and everything. And I just. I honestly feel like at some point you're. You're never really going at some. You would be more offended than you would ever saying it didn't happen.

[C]

I think that because, like, I want somebody to me like that. So I spent a lot of time out at Fort Bragg. When my dad was over there in special ops, the only time that I really got to spend with my dad was when we were either when he was the assistant coach my hockey team, where he was yelling at me, when he was assistant coach of my basketball team, where he was yelling at me, where I was coming home from school and he was yelling at me at.

[A]

Me or told you that or we.

[C]

Were talking about the moon landing and it was dead. And so, like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm giving it to you, right?

[A]

I get it, I get it. I get it.

[C]

And, and so, like, it was the one. That was the one thing that my, my dad took me to see Apollo 13 when I was a kid in the theater. We bonded over Star Trek.

[A]

That that was very similar to the real moon landing because it happened in the theater. Okay.

[C]

You really are just taking it relive. I'm over here like, opening my soul, and you're like, let me just try. Like, you were like, I'm trying and I can only go for so long.

[A]

Jimmy, you and I, you know what? Obviously I, I know commend you for, I mean, you catch a lot of heat about it, but you believe in it.

[C]

And you know, I, I, I can back it up with something.

[B]

Honestly, I feel like we have a.

[A]

Thing called Baker act in Florida.

[B]

I mean, I, I, this don't. Do not take this the wrong way.

[A]

No, it's gonna be bad.

[B]

That's not disrespectfully the same thing. When somebody goes, if I were to be like, jimmy, you know, Santa Claus is a real. And you're arguing with me. And I'm like, I, I don't see how anybody more like, dude, how could you.

[D]

Find out?

[B]

And then I find out that every day, every year for Christmas, your dad dressed up as Santa Claus. And that's.

[C]

You're not making this better.

[A]

You're not. And he yelled at Jimmy and he yelled at him. God damn it, Jimmy.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, like, Claus is like, I, I, I can see the differences across the moon.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Is he saying, okay, first of all.

[A]

Why is Santa with Mommy?

[C]

Who said that? Is that you said that? I thought it was Lewis. I was slay.

[F]

You broke.

[C]

You're lucky it was Lewis is like, I'm not brave enough to do that.

[B]

I don't know what the you guys are talking about.

[A]

You know, do we land on the moon? Do you believe it? No, no.

[C]

Lewis, just stop giving in to the pure.

[A]

No, I asked him an honest question. You can say Whatever you want. I'm not. You're not gonna get made fun of excessively for thinking that we landed on the moon. Really?

[C]

He's over here watching me get slayed. He's like, I want.

[A]

No. On the way out, he's like, jimmy, I agree with you.

[B]

With you, bro.

[C]

Hey, man, it's been a. It's been a hell of a fun.

[A]

It's a funny. It's a funny topic.

[C]

It's been a hell of a squad cast. This was the most fun I've had.

[B]

It's a night shift now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, this. I'm so sorry. I'm a neighbor.

[B]

You're the only one.

[C]

I'm wearing the shirt. I'm not reading.

[B]

Hold on, let me.

[C]

I can't read it. It upside down. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Yeah, you can shut the up, dude. Because you were calling it the squad cast forever. You're like, we broadcast. We're a broadcast now.

[B]

How many times the first couple broadcasts. I messed it up. Still mess it up.

[C]

So, you know, before we have to go tonight, I don't know. How much longer would you have to.

[B]

I want to. I want to finish these videos, but they're. They're very short videos. Mike went and raced when I was in there.

[C]

No, we're all.

[A]

We watched three of them while you were gone.

[B]

Fast forward, fast forward.

[A]

That's it. We're done.

[F]

Yeah, we saw.

[A]

We saw.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, can we get a shirt that just says I'm inebriated?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's everything.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Are we good, Lis? Yeah. All right.

[C]

Did we get all of the super chat.

[A]

Anything else we got.

[C]

Did we get all of the super.

[A]

That's all. What do we got? We got live tomorrow. Let's recap what we got tomorrow. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. So tomorrow we're going live on Patreon.

[A]

At 2pm Big announcement.

[B]

Change your time. Well, it's not. It is a big announcement, for one thing, and then we're gonn put some to rest with the drama. The new drama. Saturday at 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time, we're going live from an undisclosed area. Only on Patreon. It's a live.

[C]

That's for you. That's free.

[A]

Both of you.

[C]

You brought him. You're responsible.

[A]

How far away is the space station? Like 253 many miles. 250.

[C]

300 in space?

[A]

Yeah, it's like.

[C]

It's actually not that far. Let me. Let me find out that we have 80 D. How.

[A]

How many? How.

[C]

How.

[A]

It's not far.

[C]

I Gotta do this.

[A]

How far is the space station? Anybody?

[C]

Hang on, man.

[B]

How would I know that?

[A]

It's not far. There's a point to this, okay, because we barely get there, right? I don't know if we got people stranded there for nine months, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anybody? We've got a whole chat. Nobody can tell me. Google, Siri. How far is the.

[D]

It's.

[C]

Yeah, it's two. It's 400 kilometers. It's 230 miles.

[A]

250 miles. Yeah, we barely get there. We have people stranded there nine months at a time. The moon is 280, 000 miles away. Okay, 280, 000.

[D]

You're.

[C]

You're talking logistics versus something else. Those two things.

[A]

I just. I just. Them rockets take off, they land themselves, they can only go to the space. They don't go much further. But we flew a tin can with people. With people in it on a. Multiple times.

[C]

So here. All right, so here's what I'm gonna tell you.

[A]

You're talking about the.

[C]

All the girls that went recently.

[A]

No, that one's. They went. They went about that.

[B]

They didn't even get.

[C]

Dude, they didn't even get up to where John Glenn got to. And John Glenn was what, the first man to orbit the Earth in space? He's the oldest man to orbit the Earth in space because he's a PT God. Before all of that, he was a Morocco Marine.

[A]

How does that put him on the moon? How does that.

[C]

He didn't land on the moon.

[A]

Angel's not even listening.

[C]

Yeah, Angel's over here. Like, why are you yelling at me, man?

[A]

He's like, damn, that marine lied about being on the moon. She spread with jalapenos. What a cool name. That's a name.

[C]

I know, dude.

[F]

That's a name.

[B]

He was in the.

[C]

He was in the comments.

[A]

I had the. The jalapeno cheese sausages at Mission Barbecue today.

[F]

That was out of the MRE package.

[A]

I did have the sausage. Who said that?

[F]

You.

[A]

Oh, I was. That was. Someone said something.

[B]

You don't know who it came from?

[A]

You get a Hispanic man.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Pretty funny.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we'll be on if you're in the Tampa area on November 15, on Saturday, we'll be doing a live show. And I think it's in St. Pete, right?

[A]

It is in St. Pete.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So we'll have a flyer up for that.

[A]

That.

[B]

And then in December, we'll be going to what part of South Carolina?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I thought you knew.

[C]

Parrish Island.

[A]

It's an hour from Savannah. Georgia North. I got the information somewhere.

[B]

So. South. South Carolina.

[A]

We're going to South Carolina for some kind of December, right? Swat. Oh, I got the date.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

December 5th and 6th.

[C]

Because I know you live really close.

[A]

I should know this.

[C]

I'll bring your shirt.

[B]

Yeah, we owe you a shirt from Monday for getting the closest Clint story.

[C]

Jesus Christ, dude, You. You don't know about that?

[A]

No.

[C]

Well, we're gonna.

[F]

If I hang around enough.

[C]

Yeah, you're. We're gonna inculcate you, brother.

[A]

Okay. All right, that's deal. I don't forget I'm absent Thursday.

[B]

Mike won't be here Thursday.

[A]

I'll be. I'll be here Monday. I'll be gambling at the Hard Rock. I will remote in. You guys can bring me in. We can.

[B]

You know, it be funny as is it. What?

[C]

He's not busy next Thursday.

[B]

Oh, you should come.

[A]

We need all.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, if I'm invited, he should.

[D]

What?

[C]

He can fill in. These guys are basically best friends sitting that chair.

[A]

You can have this chair.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

No, this is for the. The daytime.

[A]

I'll be. Oh, we need him at night.

[F]

Yeah, I can pull a double shift.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Pulling a double dog.

[D]

All right.

[B]

But, yeah, we'll see you guys Monday. Thank you so much for joining us. You guys are amazing. Amazing.

[A]

And.

[B]

Yeah, see you next week.

[F]

Wait, wait.

[C]

Before we go, like.

[A]

Oh, boy. Go ahead.

[F]

Go ahead.

[D]

The. The.

[C]

The way that the. God damn, you guys. I'm actually gonna try to be suing.

[B]

Something heartfelt, but, like, have you ever wanted to like. All right, we're serious.

[A]

I won't say anything. All right, good.

[C]

The culture that we have here and at the anti hero broadcast has changed considerably within the last six weeks. Would you agree?

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

And. And the big reason for that is the people that are in those comments. Would you agree?

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

We really appreciate you guys being here.

[B]

L. Roll the intro. Bye, guys.

[A]

You welcome to the Sam. It.