Trump To Sign Executive Order To PAY TSA (03/27/2026)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: Trump To Sign Executive Order To PAY TSA (03/27/2026)
Date: March 27, 2026
Host(s): Mike, Conservative Chocolate
Special Guest: John Frankman (Florida Congressional Candidate, former Green Beret)

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on breaking news about President Trump’s plan to sign an executive order to fund the TSA, recent Congressional action on agency funding, political and cultural developments, and a detailed guest interview with congressional candidate John Frankman. The conversation weaves through veterans’ issues, candid takes on current events, shifting cultural attitudes, and the ever-present challenges—and idiosyncrasies—of running a blue-collar-focused conservative broadcast.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Current TSA & Agency Funding Crisis

• Breaking News: President Trump announced plans to sign an executive order to fund TSA personnel at airports, using funds appropriated from prior anti-terror bills. (04:00)
  • Host Mike: “The most important piece of information that has come out since yesterday evening was...Trump made an announcement that he plans on signing an executive order to fund all TSA back to the airports.” (03:52)
• Congressional Response: Congress passed a limited funding bill for TSA and parts of CBP but not ICE.
  • Conservative Chocolate: “They passed the bill only to fund the TSA—so only TSA and parts of CBP... ICE is still not funded, but I still see ICE around.” (05:01)
• Ongoing Uncertainty: Unclear how “partial funding” works for agencies or why measures took so long.

2. Veteran and Blue Collar Themes

• Host Mike recounts broadcasting and technical challenges, reflecting the show’s “by and for the working class” tone.
• Audience and hosts regularly joke about administrative fumbles and personal mishaps (e.g., paying the electric bill late).

3. Political Guest Interview: John Frankman

Start of Interview: ~20:54

• Background: Former Green Beret; left the Army after refusing the COVID vaccine; candidate for Florida’s 1st Congressional District.
• Veteran Advocacy: Pledges to represent "the boys" in the most veteran-dense district in America.
  • John Frankman: “Florida's 1st congressional district is the most veteran densely populated district in the country. We have almost a hundred thousand veterans, five major military installations. So I’ll be looking out for the boys.” (21:57)
• Approach to Federal vs State Power: Calls for shrinking federal overreach, focusing on local representation.
  • “The job right now is to get the federal government out of the state's lives and out of citizens’ lives. I'd love to go up there and have less power when I return.” (22:24)
• Religion & Policy: Open about his Christian faith and its influence on his politics.
  • “First and foremost, that's who I am... If people are going to accept or reject me, they have a right to know that.” (26:10)
• On D.C. Corruption: Talks moral formation, personal cost of refusing the COVID vax, and the need for accountability.
  • “It’s just too, too large... The whole federal government just screwing everybody over, period.” (22:49)
• Take on Middle East/Iran Strikes: Cautious, skeptical of U.S. intervention; calls for America First and minimal foreign entanglements.
  • “I think we need to focus on America first. That’s what we ran on.” (28:48)
• Contrast to Incumbent (Jimmy Petronis): Accuses Petronis of lack of action on veteran issues; criticizes congressional lack of transparency on sexual harassment/Epstein files.
  • Plays audio (39:02) of opponent dismissing further Epstein investigation: “I have no desire to see this muck that's in those documents.” (39:48)
  • Frankman: “Accountability is so important... If we know that there are people who have harmed children, we need accountability.” (40:50)
• Cultural Appeal: Positioning himself as both relatable (“for the boys”) and morally distinct from "establishment" politicians.

4. Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Federal Overreach:

  • John Frankman: "I'd love to go up there and have less power when I return and get out than when I went up there." (22:24)

• On Running as a Christian Candidate:

  • John Frankman: “I'm just trying to be straight up about who I am. There are a lot of Christians who didn't come out and vote because they were a bit demoralized.” (26:10)

• Host Mike on Congressional Transparency:

  • “That was a definitely a crazy take ... you could have deflected way better if you didn't want to talk about it.” (41:32)

• Conservative Chocolate on Cultural & Generational Republicanism:

  • “A lot of the newer generation... is very conservative oriented. They want to have a family. I don't want to pay taxes all day for nothing. I don't want to support stupid agendas and policies. That's why a lot of people come to Florida.” (42:56)

5. Cultural & Political Commentary

• California vs Florida Culture:

  • Hosts share firsthand stories about Californians leaving for Florida, dislike of Governor Newsome, and real political diversity within California.
  • Host Mike: “Not one person who didn’t have the like, toilet mouth about Gavin Newsome. ... It's actually Southern California that's the more liberal side, but then there's giant chunks... that are very conservative.” (18:00)

• Olympics/Terrorism Paranoia: Speculation regarding terrorism risk in LA before the 2028 Olympics.

  • Conservative Chocolate: “California is New York on steroids when it comes to that type of... being a sanctuary city, handicapping police officers...” (16:30)

• Debate on the Black National Anthem/Segregation:

  • Discussions over the existence and function of cultural symbols, media bias, and “liberal” strategies for social division.
  • Host Mike: “Why do we need segregation for? … I thought the black community was against segregation.” (67:39)

6. Humor, Community Banter & Podcast Dynamics

• The episode is laced with inside jokes, birthday shoutouts (see: Ja/John confusion), and ribbing about reliability, “admin work,” and authentic blue-collar values.
• Ongoing motif: “The 99” means representing the ordinary veteran/service member rather than elite military celebrities.
• Frequent digressions into law enforcement anecdotes, media literacy, and critique of virtue signaling—sometimes crossing into the absurd (moon landing skepticism, Floyd Mayweather’s Israel support, “fat E3” memes).

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Notable Timestamps

• [03:52] – Breaking news: Trump’s executive order to PAY TSA.
• [05:01] – Congress funds only specific agencies.
• [20:54] – Interview begins with John Frankman.
• [26:10] – Frankman discusses faith and political candidacy.
• [28:48] – Analysis of Iran strikes and U.S. foreign policy.
• [39:02] – Jimmy Petronis’ dismissive response to Epstein files.
• [44:57] – Origin of "the 99" and how the show relates to non-elite veterans.
• [46:12] – Frankman’s take on moon landing conspiracy.
• [82:29] – Crime video/discussion: Miami Dade murder sentencing and youth violence commentary.
• [90:34] – Purple Heart eligibility controversy for ROTC cadets.
• [102:53] – Law enforcement training and conference info.

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Memorable Quotes (with Attribution & Timestamp)

• “The job right now is to get the federal government out of the state's lives and out of citizens’ lives. I'd love to go up there and have less power when I return.”
  — John Frankman (22:24)
• “Accountability is something that is so important. And if we know that there are people who have harmed children, we need accountability.”
  — John Frankman (40:50)
• “A lot of the newer generation, it is very contrary to popular belief, is very conservative oriented...They want to have a family. I don't want to pay taxes all day for nothing.”
  — Conservative Chocolate (42:56)
• “Why do we need segregation for? … I thought the black community was against segregation.”
  — Host Mike (67:39)
• “That was definitely a crazy take…you could have deflected way better if you didn’t want to talk about it.”
  — Host Mike (41:32)
• “If you're going to accept or reject me, they have a right to know [about my faith].”
  — John Frankman (26:10)

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Episode Tone

Unfiltered, irreverent, and direct—balancing political skepticism with blue-collar wisdom; mixing hard news, meme culture, and authentic community engagement. The tone is honest, occasionally combative, yet always rooted in concern for working-class Americans, veterans, and first responders.

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies the Antihero Broadcast’s blend of conservative commentary, candid veteran/police culture, and pointed—but often humorous—political analysis. The interview with John Frankman adds depth on military, faith, and government reform topics, while recurring banter, pop culture riffs, and raw audience interaction keep the energy high and the content accessible to their core blue-collar and service community audience.

Transcript

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[John Frankman]

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[Conservative Chocolate]

What's going on, boys? The chat's going crazy. Everybody's like, are you hungover because it was Jaw's birthday?

[Host Mike]

Now full transparency.

[Conservative Chocolate]

He was hungover.

[Host Mike]

No, we forgot to pay the electric bill. So I, I like at like seven in the morning as I was drinking coffee, I get a call from like a. A number and it said spam. So it turns out it was Duke Energy, like, y' all gonna pay and walk in the studio today and it's pitch dark. I'm like. And I hit the light switch and I'm like, damn it. That's why dude called. So.

[Conservative Chocolate]

So you're gonna around and not answer the call?

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Okay.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. So admin work is not something of a strong point for anybody here at the antihero broadcast. So one of the many hats I wear, aside from a small hat, is admin and clerical duties, and I let that one slip. So luckily they turned it off within, like. Or turned it back on within, like, five minutes of paying it. So very blessed for that. That would have been longered. Yeah. Doing it in a. With a flashlight in the studio with my cell phone.

[Conservative Chocolate]

The anti hero broadcast and Frank edition. You got a candle on next to the computer.

[Host Mike]

They can hear me. So obviously, you know, we. I think the most important piece of information that has came out since yesterday evening was the fact that President Trump has made an announcement that he plans on signing an executive order to fund all TSA back to the airports. That being said, at around midnight last night, I got with CC and he's like, not much on it. That's all we know. And it's kind of not the most breaking news, but it is to us, like, as far as the stuff we cover, hoping that we'd wake up and by lunch there would be more on it. And I don't think there is much more on it other than the fact that he just said he was going to do it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Now, with that being said, just, I. I was looking at some stuff, and pretty much what he was saying is that they're gonna use the funding from the big, beautiful bill with terrorists, I'm assuming, and all that other. And then re. Or appropriate some of that money to pay tsa, which still begs to differ. You know, we couldn't you do this a month ago? Like, what the.

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[Conservative Chocolate]

But with that being said, there is breaking news that Congress passed a funding bill today. This morning, while we were still drinking our coffee and you were figuring out how to turn the light back on. They pass. They passed the bill only to fund the tsa, so. Only to fund the tsa cb parts of cbp, which, first off, I don't even know how the. You fund parts of an agency, but.

[Host Mike]

Okay, dude, I don't know either.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You. What do you do? I sweep the floors, all right? Everybody who sweeps the floors is funded. Everybody else, yourself, like, okay, so who pays the bills?

[Host Mike]

You do. You're you're being funded.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You're being funded. Everybody else off. So parts of CBP are funded and ICE is still not funded. But with that being said, they say ICE isn't funded, but I still see ICE around and going out outside. So I don't know. I don't know how unfunded they are. So there's that.

[Host Mike]

Is it true that ICE has been met? Like, mass deportation has officially stopped? Like, on record, like, we are not doing it anymore?

[Conservative Chocolate]

I haven't seen that per se, because I still see them locking up. So I don't know.

[Host Mike]

Okay. Yeah, I just. I saw that on Instagram. But again, I don't know if it was, like, more. Right. Propaganda to piss me off or if it was actual. Actual factual. We also have a surprise guest coming in today. Nice. John. No, Wyatt has no idea what he did because, like, he goes off the grid for a while. I tried texting him and it just. It says. It goes red and it says, not delivered. No idea the controversy he stirred up.

[Conservative Chocolate]

And he's gonna come back responded.

[Host Mike]

Did you see that in the comments?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. Did you reach out to them? Because I remember you saying something like, I did.

[Host Mike]

So we ended night shift last night, and I. And I. And I don't have notifications for my social media on my phone in general. That's crazy, because I would go nuts. Like, I watch Mike, like, go like bananas because he's trying to keep up with it. So I make it so when I go on social media, that's when I deal with it. And I opened up Instagram and I saw a message from them that stated, you could only read the first line,

[Conservative Chocolate]

and it said a DM, though.

[Host Mike]

A DM from them that said, no hard feelings. Pretty whack video, though. That's. So I click it and the message, and it takes. It takes me to our messages. Like, we've never exchanged messages before. Apparently, we do follow each other. You know that. And that could have been from years. Somebody in the account followed them. And I. It was empty. It was gone. There was nothing there. There was no messages. I'm like, what the. I mean, we're trying to figure out how that could have happened because Justin and Gator were still here. And I'm like, no, man. I'm like, 99 sure. They might have sent something and then deleted it. And Justin was like, hey, listen, there might be multiple administration and there might be a guy that was like, hey, no hard feelings, and there might be another guy that's no them and deleted it. So I reached out and pretty much said, like, hey, guys, listen here. Me and conservative chocolate, that wasn't coming from us. You know, we were. We're essentially a conduit of anybody that wants to pass information, you know, and I didn't say this. I didn't say we. We didn't take it down. We. First off, we don't take anything down. I don't take anything down. What I will do is make a correction video or an apology because if you take it down, I understand that the other party might want that, but then that makes us look like we're trying to cover something. So I said, hey, you know, me and cc, it didn't come from us. I just recently learned more about your company and how it's structured. And on night shift. I did post, I did correct it the best way I could and. And express my respect for your. Your company and your business model and I'll make a short kind of right in the wrong. And they said, no worries, bro, no hard feelings or something like that. And that was it. That was the only transmissions I've had. So, you know, it. It just. It does go to show that people love the negativity because that thing's been shared like 6, 000 times already.

[Conservative Chocolate]

When I checked it last night, it was at like 140k.

[Host Mike]

I was like, yeah, like, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I. It would suck to have someone talking about me and then. Or my club and it blows up. Like, no one wants that. The issue is, the only thing I would do is that if it was inaccurate, I would retort it, which I've done multiple times in the past. I went on my platforms and said, hey, this is not true. This is not true. That. I just don't think maybe they don't want to be involved in the drama, so they're just letting it go.

[Conservative Chocolate]

But yeah, that's what I would assume. I saw they made two comments and that was really all. They. All. They spoke on it in the comment section.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, they were in the replies a lot in the comment section. Replying to people individually. I saw like, maybe. Maybe there was only two. I saw a couple.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I mean, I only saw two, but there could. There could have been a couple because I saw one where they commented and then they commented again under that comment.

[Host Mike]

Like, why the.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Do I gotta explain to people. Like, I gotta explain to people who improve my point, you guys.

[Host Mike]

I was like, true, good point.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Being fair.

[Host Mike]

So we have, in about 10 minutes, we have a John Frankman. He's a Florida congressional candidate and a former Green Beret who was kicked out of the army for not getting the vaccination. Oh. So I wanna, you know, with all the political we got going on, I think it's a good time to pick his brain. He didn't have the. I don't think he had the time to do a Wednesday Friends Day or, you know, it was kind of like one of those things where he just wanted to get on and talk and meet us. So we're like, hey, man, we're 30 minute spot. Any day of the week, you let us know. So I'm through. He chose today, so he's gonna come on. And I've never talked to him, I've texted him, but, you know, I want to see his stance on some of this because we all sit here and talk a lot about politics and you're very informed about politics, but none of us are politicians. So I'm interested to see, you know, he's got Christ in his bio and Christianity bio. I'm interested to see if he'll, you know, professionally. Professionally give his opinion on maybe Israel or that whole show over there in the Middle East.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, did you. Did you do the do's and don'ts with him before he jumped on? Are you just gonna say,

[Host Mike]

I think he's a real rider, dude? I mean, obviously there's, you know. You know, just as much as I do, when you interview people, there is that courtesy of not bombarding them.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

There is the expectation that they know what kind of show we are. So it's kind of like one of those weird things like, I'm never gonna intentionally you over. Yeah, I mean, you kind of gotta know what we talk about.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Well, I will say this. Speaking of elections and whatnot, there was a special election in the area of Mar a Lago where Trump lives. Obviously there's only one Mar a Lago that anybody knows or cares about anyways. Nonetheless, whatever that district is called, I can't remember the exact name, but there was a special election and a Democrat just won. So good luck, Donnie. That's. That can't be fun. Imagine that, huh? God damn it. Of course, it gotta be in my area. Like, that sucks.

[Host Mike]

That sucks.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That's so fun. Moving on.

[Host Mike]

I had. I had. So I got this cool video. I'm not gonna play the sound. I think it's copywritten music. But Jesus, they're Nazis with that. Really. So I went to California. I got a tour from Six Jedis of Hollywood and W. Jedi's the Los Angeles, like city council building. I forget what it's called but it was really cool, really historical building. And they took me up to the very, very top and they're like hey, you know you see that tower over there? I'm like, yeah. They're like, that's the dude. Larry Silverstein, who acquired, well it's red right here. Who acquired the U S Bank tower in la, like just bought it, has reportedly taken insurance against terrorist attacks. Now mind you, does anybody remember who Larry Silverstein is?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yes, yes.

[Host Mike]

If you don't remember who Larry Silverstein is. Larry Silverstein took out the big insurance claim right before 911 for the world Trade Centers. Suspicious, I mean is it right in front of you?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, at this point,

[Host Mike]

I mean it could be just a really, really hell of a coincidence but you know, hopefully LA nothing happens in LA anytime soon. But I guess given the time frames

[Conservative Chocolate]

of the past, LA would be the place too.

[Host Mike]

Why you say that?

[Conservative Chocolate]

I mean we already had New York, right? They already have all that in New York. So in my idea, I mean what's, what's the next best thing Besides New York, L.A. as far as famous, big and well known, you know, I don't

[Host Mike]

know, I don't think it's a strategic. I don't think it's a strategic place for terrorism. I mean I wouldn't think so, but.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Well you. And this is my thinking, right? I mean you tell me what you think. I think number one, right for something, Unless it's gonna be. Unless somehow they figure out how to get another plane to down an entire building. Another plane to down a whole building or seven. No, I'm saying, just saying. Anyways, so you can't like, like think about Florida, right? The way Florida operates it would be very hard, I feel like for a terror group to pull something off here just because like our police are on it. We will lock you the up. Like they don't around. But then you have places like New York, it's super laxed. Are you gonna get raided by the locals? Probably not, you get what I'm saying? Like it's a big hub, they don't give a about citizenship status, etc, you know there's a lot of factors that go along with this. California is New York on steroids when it comes to that type of.

[Host Mike]

So politically.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, politically, when it comes to you know, being a sanctuary city, handicapping police officers, their ability to operate, do work like that. You get what I'm saying? So in my head, you know, I'm just thinking, just Just off of that in general, that they would be the next, you know, best option. And then also remember, too, I would assume that they would want to be able to say, yeah, we got New York and we got Cali.

[Host Mike]

Oh, that's right. Someone just said that. That's. That is true. The. The Olympics in 2028.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yep. You are not safe. We got your California before the Olympics. It's crazy voice.

[Host Mike]

Yo, you think they do it before the Olympics or during the Olympics?

[Conservative Chocolate]

No, I would. I would say they'd probably do it before to, like, force an embarrassment on the US Of. Of having to cancel or countries not refusing to go because we just got a terror attack two years before the Olympics.

[Host Mike]

Depression.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You know what I'm saying? Like an embarrassment type of thing.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, I wouldn't. When I was in. I was in. When I was in Cali, like, a week ago, I didn't meet one. Now, granted, I was in the Southern California portion. That's pretty red. Like, Huntington Beach. Yeah. I went down to San Diego, but I didn't meet one person who didn't have the, like, toilet mouth about Gavin Newsome. Not one. Like, random people at the gas pump that'll see your. Your license plate from a different state be like, oh, our governor sucks. We love our state. Like, there was somebody that was like, I'm moving to Florida. I'm like, you're moving to Florida from California? And she's, like, 60 years old with two dogs in her car. She's like, yeah, my kids are gone. Me and my husband are moving to Florida. We can't stand Gavin Newsom. This. The. The. This whole state's a joke. And I was like, man, such a beautiful state, too. But I was wearing a lot. One day, I wore my. The shirt that I make that says, guns, God, and government, and the government's got the red slash through it, like V for vendetta. And I got probably six compliments on the shirt. Just walking around Huntington Beach, Laguna Beach, Dana Point, like, all that, you know? So it's. It's different there. You're not hearing. You got to go there to hear it, because you wouldn't believe, like, everybody thinks Californians are all liberal. And, I mean, from what I hear, Northern California is very conservative, and it's actually Southern California that's the more liberal side. But then there's giant chunks in Southern California that are very conservative and are not happy with the state of their state.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Well, it's funny you say that, too, because it's like, I have. I have one of My best friends who lives in California. And he makes it a point every, every time we have a conversation about California to remind me and to prove to me, no, no, no, we're a red state. I swear to God, we're a red state. And then he always tells me, like, you know, between the voter laws, not checking voter IDs, you know, harvesting ballots and all the drug areas like skid row, San Francisco, all those places, that's why they keep winning. But as of now, Chad Bianco, which is a sheriff for whatever part of, of California and some other guy are the top two to become the. The governor. So not only is it one, it's two people in first and second place who are Republican who are in the lead to become the next governor of California. So if that happens, you know, we're sitting good. We're sitting good. And also, Mark did say that they're planning. Mark said that they're going to plan a no Kings protest this week scheduled for this week. So

[Host Mike]

this would be a good question for John once we bring him in. In a second. Josh says Florida's starting to get too expensive with all these people moving here sometimes. Like I said, I don't know. I know the hype. As soon as, like New York, that governor got or that mayor got elected, everybody was like, oh, they're all moving here. And all the realtors were posting. I really don't know what's factual. I've never looked at any data that states that that is happening, I think, but it's probably implied. But yeah, you know, so that would be a really good question for John. John Frankman, everybody.

[John Frankman]

What's going on? Thanks for having me.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yes, There you go. Hey. Hey.

[Host Mike]

Florida congressional candidate, former Green beret, forced out of the U. S. Army because he would not take the jab.

[John Frankman]

That is correct. And my body thanks me for it every day.

[Conservative Chocolate]

He doesn't have blood clots.

[John Frankman]

Yeah, yeah, still functioning well.

[Host Mike]

Thank you for joining us, man. Like I said, we're, you know, wait, just because of the craziness of the world, you know, we went from a, you know, bullshitting around, veteran first responder podcast, like actually covering real events and, you know, having people on that that can speak on it or can give kind of a better, more educated opinion on it is always beneficial to us. I, like I said, I know Florida is more your, your focus and your center, but as, as a, as a congressman, if you, you know, if you were to be congressman, how much of the actual country do you have to worry about over Florida.

[John Frankman]

Well, you always put your constituents first and that's what you're supposed to do, is you're supposed to be a representative. Now what I can say is that Florida's 1st congressional district is the most veteran densely populated district in the country. We have almost a hundred thousand veterans, we have five major military installations. So I'll be looking out for the boys. I mean I've been joking about, let's get a yard sign that says Franklin for Congress, for the boys and put it outside all the military operations. Right.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I like that.

[John Frankman]

I think the dudes would get it. But you know, I think the job right now is to get the federal government out of the state's lives and out of citizens lives. It's just too, too large. And I'd love to go up there and have less power when I return and get out than when I went up there because we're shrinking the size of federal government. There are specific things to focus on with regards to Florida. But a lot of the problems that we're facing are just the whole federal government just screwing everybody over, period.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, he, you're in the, forgive me, is the first district, is that the panhandle area?

[John Frankman]

Yeah. Yes. That starts in Pensacola. It's the furthest northwest in Florida you can get.

[Host Mike]

So we've had, you know, we've had Eddie Gallagher on a couple times and we picked his brain kind of like joking, but not really, you know, like, hey, why, why not run for office? You're a stand up guy, right? You're, you put your morals, your faith, you put everything out in front of you. You're honest. And he laughed and said, I've been asked a bunch of times. But he's like, I personally couldn't deal with the cesspool that is politics because people that are true and honest don't make it without, you know, the, the bribery and the dirtiness and the corruptness and you know, so I was wondering your take on that because I could clearly tell by talking to you last couple days that you are someone of morals, you are someone of, you know, faith first. You are, you know, you have all those attributes and those qualities. Does that intimidate you to go and stand toe to toe with people that are. When I say dirty, I mean just morally and ethically dirty and put themselves before the people.

[John Frankman]

Yeah. And I pray to God that, you know, this is obviously something that I want. It's something I think he's calling me to. But I tell him that if this is not good for my soul, if this isn't good for my spirituality, my future family. Then don't let it happen. Don't let it come to be. But what gives me courage is that I stood on morals and principle when I refused the COVID shot, even at great personal cost and sacrifice. Losing out on the military career, losing out on deployments, team time, job opportunities, and a lot of it is the moral formation that I had. And probably I'm a weirder. You don't hear this story very often for politicians, people aspiring for Congress, but I spent four years studying to be a Catholic priest, so I was planning on being a chaplain before going infantry. Yeah, I commissioned in the army in 2011, then spent four years in seminary, discerning, celibacy, the whole thing. So I hope that just if I stay close to God, continue to pray to him, rely on him, that a lot of the corruption that happens up in D.C. doesn't affect me as much, but I'll need to stay close to him, rely on others prayers, because I know I'm still human and there's still a temptation that'll never go away. But I just hope that if I stay humble and try to stay close to him, that those different temptations and that pressure and that whatever makes everyone suck up there doesn't affect me.

[Host Mike]

There you go. Hey, yeah, man. That, that speech right there, that motivated me.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I put that sign up. Put the sign up.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. So I put.

[John Frankman]

That's the big one I'm trying to, trying to work on.

[Conservative Chocolate]

There you go.

[Host Mike]

Christianity is, is, you know, is a big part of your life. You know, I know that when people put that, you know, as silly as it is, when they put it in their Instagram bio, that's where you put whatever you want people to know. Most of it's like business stuff. How do you know? How do I make my account grow bigger? And you put. I think you have actually Christianity in your, in your Instagram. Do you ever worry that, I mean, it's weird because it's kind of counterculture now, but it's working. But do you ever worry that putting your particular faith forward would drive anybody away? Or do you think now Americans and Floridians in particular wouldn't mind that as far as just policy and, you know, doing what you said you were going to do?

[John Frankman]

Yeah, so first and foremost, that's who I am. And if people are going to choose and accept me or reject me, then they have a right to know that. And that's the most profound part of who I am and defining part is that relationship with Jesus Christ. But in representing the 1st congressional district, it's a very, very heavily Christian area, mostly Protestant, Christian, I'm Catholic, but it's a very Christian area. It has those values, and I want to bring those values up to DC And a lot of people talk about that. Politics is downstream of culture. I want to use my faith. That formation, the four years of seminary, the master's in systematic theology, bring all that knowledge up to D.C. but there is a movement. There are people who are just seeing rhinos. They're seeing people who claim to be conservatives. They've seen the failure of the pro life movement where people say they're pro life and they almost don't want to solve the issues. They can keep banking on the votes, not actually get anything solved. So I'm just trying to be straight up about who I am. And I think that there are. And I want to inspire people because there are a lot of Christians who didn't come out and vote because they were a bit demoralized when some of the, some of Trump's stances seem to have softened on pro life issues. So I think that we need to, you know, we're coming out of the big tent, Republican, but we need to really push the social values, too. I think that's the foundation, the framework of a society.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. I mean, and what is your. As a veteran and as an aspiring politician and as a Christian and. And I, I say aspiring politician, I really don't know the verbiage. I know you're a congressional candidate, but what you're overall broad. We don't got to get into, like, the nitty gritty and personal beliefs. But if you were to give your opinion on the conflict that we are getting more and more and more into versus what Trump led us to believe, I'd like to know your opinion on that, because I've seen a lot of. This isn't what I signed up for. And as a veteran myself, we've been talking on the show a lot about our kids. I was. My son. My middle son's 13 years old. I was 13 watching Baghdad get bombed. And now I have to worry about him going and wanting. Like any son, I want to impress my dad. I want to join the military. I've seen my dad talk around the campfires. I've seen the cigar. I've seen all this. I want to be part of that. And me having to go, son, like, it's not this. It's not what you think it is. Or do I let him go do that? Journey himself. So overall, that I know that was a lot, but what's your take on this whole thing?

[John Frankman]

Right. So when we first struck Iran this, this second go around, I was very cautious in thinking that there was an actual imminent threat because we had just struck their nuclear sites in June. And the report that we received in June was that the nuclear program was more or less set back by decades and decades. So I just didn't think that there was an imminent threat. And I wanted to hold off opining on it at first because there's a lot of intel that I don't necessarily know. But in seeing Joe Kent's resignation, someone who I can trust, he was a Green Beret. I've spoken with him on the phone before getting into politics, that made me really think that, hey, there probably wasn't an imminent threat. And although there's a lot of good that can come out of this because Iran is not our friend in any way, shape or form, they do fund proxies. They have been. And I've had Green Brays reach out to me since I've gotten popular when they were being struck in Syria or other surrounding countries in the Middle East. Like they're certainly going to do their pot shots. I think that that calls for a proportional response. They send one missile, we send 10 back, something of that nature just to stop them from doing it. But there's a lot of negative things that can come from a prolonged conflict in Iran. There's a lot of instability that can happen. There's a lot of problems that can come from the straight of Hormuz, from gas prices, just the flow of oil. And so I'm not in favor of the attacks that we just did. Now that it's already happened, let's support the troops. Let's hope that they can get it done. And let's try to argue that we don't put any ground forces there. There's too many allies supposedly that we have in the area where if that's a necessity, you should do it, they should take care of their area. But we need to focus on America first. That's, that's what we ran on. That's what we want to see. And I'd like to focus a lot more on different domestic issues right now. Not that you can't focus on the two, but just with this particular conflict, Iran, I'm very hesitant about what we, why we went in and I really pray that it's handled well.

[Host Mike]

What's it like being a conservative politician and having, having the desire to outwardly speak against federal or more national conservative political heads or disagree with them. Disagree like publicly disagreeing with something that the President has gone forward with or advocates for. What's it like? What's the pressure like as far as, like, man, if I disagree with the head of the snake, they're going to turn around and cut me off. You know, is there any of that or do you just, is it a hope and a prayer that they, they honor, you know, the electoral process or how does that work?

[John Frankman]

Yeah, I mean, I just have to speak honestly about what I think is right and what I don't think is right. And, you know, you can support the President. I do support the President. I support a number of his policies. And I was part of Veterans for Trump. I actually got to meet President Trump in October of 2024. I was on stage with him and I told him, hey, I was a Green Beret. I was forced out of the army for refusing the COVID shot. What will you do to repair the military? And how will you hold beaters accountable? So I still want to support him and I want him to do well. But one of the ways that you support people like one of your brothers, just think of it being back on the team. If you think a guy is wrong or you have second opinions or is screwing up or might be making a wrong decision, you let them know, hey, I think that this is ill advised. Let me try to explain why. And it's up to conservatives to make their voices known when they do have those disagreements. There certainly is the need to coalesce around some foundational principles and make sure that we move forward in achieving those. And if you don't agree with some of those principles, then why are you even on the Republican team?

[Host Mike]

Right.

[John Frankman]

So when it comes to life, limited governments, putting more power back to the states, deporting as many illegals as possible.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah.

[John Frankman]

Freedoms, liberties, etc. Those are kind of non negotiable ones where, hey man, if president's pushing for that, you're against it and then what are you even doing? But I think that with regards to foreign affairs like this right now, I think that you can, you can give your opinion and you can be a great conservative still. And it's very interesting to see that there's a lot of special operations folks, a lot of veterans who are concerned about this, but then there's a lot of people who might not have served who are just saying, hey, yeah, we, we need to go. They, yeah. So I'm just being straightforward and honest and, and Willing to, to fight for the district and, and speak about what I think is true.

[Host Mike]

I appreciate it. I, I again, it's like, you know, that this whole generation of, you know, we're guilty of it, you know, prepping the boys and you know, like a pep rally for us when we all sit there and, you know, hey, you're going. This is what you signed up for. And our 22 year old mindset, you know, man, almost 20 years ago, and this is what you signed up for. You almost don't care about the politics. You're like, I'm getting a chance to go to war, I'm getting the chance. And you don't look at it. And I, I can't speak for everybody, but I think that the majority of somebody that age and that maturity is just looking for the opportunity to go and not being so much of an idealist about why.

[John Frankman]

Yeah, I mean, if the person enlisted, then they have to follow the lawful orders. If it's an unlawful order like the one I received for getting the COVID shot, then you have the moral duty, especially as an officer, to stand up for your guys, to make known that this is unlawful and to push away. And I think that Joe Kent's resignation was appropriate because he was working in a political position and his politics at that point were incompatible with the administration, or so he felt. So it's better for him to have done that honestly than to have tried to undermine kind of the will and intent of the president. But for a soldier, yeah, go there, keep yourself safe, take care of your guys, follow the rules of engagement and you'll grow as a person. I wouldn't necessarily tell someone not to join the military just because of that. Now if you're completely opposed to that war, then yeah, then don't join. Because there is the chance that you will always be, you will always have to follow the order of lawful orders of the president, the leaders ahead of you, and that includes the possibility of deploying to a war or conflict that you don't agree with. So I'll just continue to pray for the troops, support him to the best extent that I can for sure, and just pray that this conflict ends quickly.

[Host Mike]

What's the, what's the race looking like as far as time? And forgive me, I do not follow politics. I just know I gotta go vote. When everybody tells me I go to go vote. But what's the right.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Look, it gets real big the week of. Yeah, it's like, all right, tomorrow you're like, wait.

[Host Mike]

Real important. I know.

[John Frankman]

Yeah, you're probably a lot mentally more sane for not following so closely though, and a much happier person about it. But for whatever reasons across I got but the election. So I'm running for Florida's first District. It's the most conservative district within the state and the primary is on August 18, and it currently I'm going against an incumbent. The incumbent is Jimmy Petronis. I ran in the special election last year. So this is Matt Gates old seat. In my opinion, it's still Matt Gates old seat. I still see him as kind of like the last guy who legitimately was in.

[Conservative Chocolate]

And I was gonna ask you about that because I was, I was. I remember going up there during the last hurricane. I was like, isn't that where that. I couldn't remember his name. But anyways, yeah, but.

[John Frankman]

But yeah, Jimmy Patron. I ran in the last race. First candidate in Trump, he made one of his endorsements, which we've kind of looked at his endorsements and wondered, where did this come from? What's going on? How are we still supporting Lindsey Graham, whereas we're going off and attacking Massie or something like that? But, yeah, when Trump made the endorsement, dropped out of the race, it just seemed as though, hey, I want to support the President. I'm hoping this goes well. But this guy is still in and I just don't think he's done a good job. I think we have the House, the Senate, the presidency, and we've had one of the least productive sessions in Congress just ever. And it's the most veteran dense district. And this guy hasn't really done anything for veterans. He has a bunch of billboards saying that he's going to help with VA services. But actually, a friend of mine who's supporting my campaign is doing more VA claims than his office is. We've had people reach out to him, not get responses, then reach out to me. I'll link him up with, with my friend Jason. And then he's just knocking out these VA claims. And it's because he doesn't even have a veteran on his staff. Like, I think he might have just gotten one the last week or two. And it's only because he's getting primaried. So it's an uphill battle. It's David versus Goliath.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Is he a rhino?

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[John Frankman]

So he's establishment. Right. So, for instance, he voted against releasing the sexual harassment reports against members of Congress in the slush fund. So very recently, Nancy Mace forced a House resolution vote in order to release sexual harassment reports against members of Congress. And the vote was 300 something to 60 something. So most members of Congress voted to suppress these reports and bury them back in the ethics file. So Jimmy Petronis did not vote for transparency and did not vote for accountability and this isn't anything new. He was asked about the Epstein files and I have that video on on my social media.

[Host Mike]

I'm bringing it up right now.

[John Frankman]

Yeah yeah let me know if you want to roll it. But he was asking files and basically doesn't want accountability. So

[Conservative Chocolate]

bro went to the island

[Host Mike]

I

[John Frankman]

don't know I think he's just following the company line and doing what he's told to do but he was, he was asked he was told that Gen Z that they basically don't have a lot of faith in our institutions and part of that was Epstein and when I asked about it he said that he doesn't want to look at the files and he doesn't believe there's any more work to be done in those files and when asked about accountability he passes on. He passes the buck and says that they're all out there for anyone to see. If anyone wants to see it they can go out and they can investigate it. But didn't seem to feel as though there was any obligation from him as a federal representative in federal government representing the 700,000 very conservative people of northwest Florida that he would have to do anything.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That's a wild take.

[Host Mike]

I hope the volume works. I've never used X on this platform before so wish me luck. So lifelong Republican Gordon Trump all three

[Conservative Chocolate]

elections on the biggest issue I see right now especially with my generation and

[John Frankman]

the Jersey generation is a lipocate our

[Host Mike]

institutions I'm sorry like effect a lot of fade.

[John Frankman]

Yeah we have no phase in our

[Host Mike]

institutions honestly even though I'm here because

[John Frankman]

I believe there is still hope.

[Host Mike]

Yeah bro Goodfield May you have already checked out true like you said. Now on that note one of the

[Conservative Chocolate]

biggest reasons I voted war from what's he refrain tomorrow and right now with

[Host Mike]

the way that things are going with

[John Frankman]

the ever seen files it's really creating

[Conservative Chocolate]

a lot more frustration and when you

[Host Mike]

know every document is out there you

[Conservative Chocolate]

just gotta get you want to go see what's there you can go look

[Host Mike]

at I have no desire to see

[Conservative Chocolate]

this month that's in those documents.

[Host Mike]

I feel like in my charge I was elected to try to vote in a way to keep our country from from spinning itself into giving more debt

[Conservative Chocolate]

to our kids and you know I'm glad they're out there but I really Want to move on away from something

[Host Mike]

that I feel like is a dark rose chapter of America where a dead pedophile was controlling agenda. The United States of America, the scapegoat.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That was a wild.

[Host Mike]

But I'm gonna go to work. And I feel like there's no more work to be done on those documents.

[John Frankman]

Well, I, I, I understand that we

[Host Mike]

have a dead head of file, but

[John Frankman]

at the same time, particularly for the

[Host Mike]

victims and I worked at the military

[John Frankman]

sexual trauma counselor run.

[Host Mike]

So I, I don't want to re traumatize those victims putting their names out the public domain here. Their names don't, their names don't have to be out there. But accountability is something that is so important. And if we know that there are people who are perpetrator who have harmed

[Conservative Chocolate]

children, we need accountability.

[Host Mike]

You know, having, saying, hey, this was dark and the people that were engaged in this behavior are going to be

[John Frankman]

held accountable because we have a higher

[Host Mike]

standard that is important. Well, and I get, there's my, the

[Conservative Chocolate]

trauma that I deal with has been

[Host Mike]

more on the side of people that

[Conservative Chocolate]

have been first responder dealing with ptsd.

[Host Mike]

And so I get very sensitive about re. Traumatizing somebody about. I just, I just want to go to work. And every day that we deal with this issue, I'm afraid we're just, I get focused on trying to save our country. Man, they're out there. People want to read them.

[Conservative Chocolate]

They can read them.

[Host Mike]

Wow.

[John Frankman]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

Okay.

[John Frankman]

Crazy, right?

[Host Mike]

That was a definitely. I'm gonna steal this from conservative chocolate here. That was a definitely a crazy take. You know, you could have deflected way better if you didn't want to talk about it. The fact that you're almost defending it or go like. Because I was a cop for 10 years.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I know when I asked him talk

[Host Mike]

about bro, I know when we ask and I ask a question, I get a. I don't, I don't know. Like, yeah, like, or, and, and why. You know, I get this huge explanation as why I shouldn't be asking that question. Like why you should have been investigating.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Don't worry about what's in the trunk.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, don't worry about it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

There's nothing in the trunk at all. There's nothing in this trunk.

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[John Frankman]

I mean, he even acknowledges that. You know, I don't want to look into the files of someone who is controlling the agenda of the United States of America and the whole world. Well, and that sounds like a pretty good reason to look into it to make sure that that kind of control never happens. Again, it just is so out of touch. But I think he was just fed whatever lines he's supposed to just move on past it.

[Host Mike]

And he's trying to break, break when in case of emergency, when asked about this, just say this stuff.

[John Frankman]

Yeah, he's busted out the, like the show horse and workhorse line too. I think that's given a new members, a couple Congress as well.

[Host Mike]

But.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, well, here's my take, and I'm pretty sure you're, you're a little closer to the, to the age group that, that really is going to be voted in the next 10 years than that guy is, because he just, he just looks old. And that's how, and that's how most of the young kids look at it. Like, do you look old or do you not? And if you do, I don't know if I want to vote for you. That, that's really what, what it boils down to right now for the newer generation, a lot of the newer generation, it is very contrary to popular belief, is very conservative oriented. People who are 18 to 30s right now are very conservative oriented because they want that I want to have a family. I don't want to pay taxes all day for nothing. I don't want to support stupid agendas and policies. That's why a lot of people come to Florida. And I'll give you a perfect example, me being a New York native. The natural transition for being a native in New York is being indoctrinated into thinking you're a liberal. Then you make a couple dollars and you ask yourself, what. Well, first off, how the. Did I make a hundred thousand dollars last year, but I can't afford to buy a house? Then you start asking questions and then you move to Florida. That's how it works. That's the ladder right there. You start asking questions on how your taxes are getting spent because you finally made six figures. Which don't get me wrong, and I'm sure Tyler, and you can attest to this back in the day, if you were making six figures, that's like, holy. You made it. Yeah. For six figures. And I'm like, what the is this? Like, how am I not wealthy?

[Host Mike]

You're kind of implying I was old, but I get it.

[John Frankman]

Spending too much money.

[Host Mike]

Yep. Okay. You know, and obviously, you know, it's what our, our supporters, we call ourselves, you know, the 99. And that was. Here's, here's the. Do you know the origins of the 99? Why it came to be?

[John Frankman]

No, no.

[Host Mike]

Because of military podcasts. And I Think you'll get a kick out of this? There's. There's. There's good dudes in every genre, every job, but we, as a platform, because of what we were a year ago, we decided to get away from the spec ops soft stuff. Because right now, currently in. In that. In that there's a lot of drama just in house, doesn't really matter. Like, there's. It's not political drama, it's just drama, he thinks. And so we wanted to get away from that. And then our supporters started saying, well, it's like you guys are for the 99, like, the other 99 of the military that, you know, like, feels like I didn't really do anything special because this Navy SEAL is sitting here dunking on me all day long about how many people he's killed. But that being said, these guys are huge supporters of the show, and somebody wanted to ask you a very, very important question. His name is Ja and his birthday was yesterday, and he wouldn't shut up about it. But he wants to know your take on the moon landing. Very imperative that we know that your take on the moon landing, whether it did or did not happen, I don't know.

[John Frankman]

I mean, that's. There's so much that we don't know about our government. But one of the tough things with the conspiracies is how. How far does the lie go? If you're going to say that people didn't land on the moon? How many people are inside of that. That lie? How many people fabricated and. And for how long? I mean, there certainly is the question of why haven't we gone the last 20, 30 years? Did we lose that technology? It doesn't make sense. But I'm not gonna, like, say for sure it did. For sure it didn't. But that. I'm skeptical enough of our government to not necessarily just trust everything that they say.

[Host Mike]

I love it because the. It is. First off, the easiest way to say is, I'm not 90 years old, so I wasn't alive during the moon landing, so I only know what everybody else knows, and that is hero. The videos look a little weird, but that being said, you know, and there's. There's things that, like, don't make sense. Like, oh, we try. Like, we trashed all the technology. Like, that sounds like something you'd say if you got caught cheating. Like, oh, I threw my phone away.

[John Frankman]

Yeah,

[Conservative Chocolate]

my phone.

[Host Mike]

I can't explain why we threw it all away, but we just jumped it all.

[John Frankman]

Like, yeah, crazy.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. But these guys you know, they're. They're good people. I would like to have you back on. I know your schedule is crazy, so that's why we kind of wanted to get you on real quick. But a Wednesday where we get to know you as a person, deep dive into your background, really get into the whole. Your outboarding process of the military, because a very. A lot of people were affected by it, but not enough to where I don't think it was brought up enough. It wasn't a big enough issue as it should have been.

[John Frankman]

No, it still should be a big issue. The reinstatement process is still absolute trash. And for every thousand service members forced out, probably less than one's been reinstated. So, I mean, it's just ridiculous. And there's no accountability for any of the flag officers. There's actually not full back pay to subtract what you made as a civilian. So, yeah, I would love to get into that.

[Host Mike]

Crazy.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That's crazy. The.

[John Frankman]

And I wouldn't be entitled to anything because I wasn't technically kicked out. They consider me voluntarily separated because after losing out on deployments, team time, and job opportunities, I chose to leave rather than wait to get kicked out.

[Conservative Chocolate]

So. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host Mike]

Okay. Technicalities. That's how they get you.

[John Frankman]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

But no.

[John Frankman]

Love to come back on. Appreciate you having me on today.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, man. Like I said, we'll get you scheduled on a Wednesday where that is dedicated to. I mean, we'll talk current events, of course. Course, we'll get engagement with the guys. But, you know, it's more focused on your background, your upbringing, certain points in your life that were pivotal to who you are now. And, you know, people are even saying, yeah, for an officer, he seems pretty cool.

[John Frankman]

You do get that.

[Host Mike]

Hey, sir, why the is this going on? And you give a very. You give a very good answer. That is professional. But I get what you're saying. Like, I get it, you know?

[John Frankman]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[John Frankman]

You can't go full enlisted and run for Congress. That doesn't really work.

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[John Frankman]

We all know what we're talking about right now.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[John Frankman]

I don't want to be too posh of an officer, too.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Also, before you leave, if you can wish John a happy late birthday. That made the chat very happy.

[John Frankman]

Oh, happy late birthday, John. You know, I hope that God blesses you this year, continues to just bless your life in whatever way you need most. So go enjoy yourself. Celebrate.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. Appreciate you, brother.

[Host Mike]

Cool. All right, I'll hop off.

[John Frankman]

See y'.

[Host Mike]

All. All right. Later.

[Conservative Chocolate]

He said, all right. Let me get the off this before they start asking me crazy questions.

[Host Mike]

I, I do. I, I think he's a good dude. Like I said, you're only gonna get when, when a politician agrees to come on a live stream. A live stream with no, he didn't give me any list. He didn't ask what we were gonna talk about. I, I give him credit. You know, that's like, that's like asking. What are you laughing about?

[Conservative Chocolate]

The comment section is going crazy. I called him John instead of Ja and everybody somebody commented John. 275 Dude.

[Host Mike]

I said Ja.

[Conservative Chocolate]

No, no, it wasn't you was the other guy. Because I told him to tell Ja Happy birthday. And he goes, happy birthday John. Since everybody's letting him up in the comments. John is the Tier 3 Ranger. He's John now.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, we'll get him on on a Wednesday, get to know about him. We're gonna take a quick commercial break and then me and CC got some dope ass videos and some more topics to talk about. Maybe get into a little bit drama towards the end of the episode. Stay tuned. We will be right back once I find it. Over a century ago in 1910, the

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We are vengeance.

[Host Mike]

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[Conservative Chocolate]

you saw that, you're like, he's out, he's out. I already know it. I already know it. Also, I am waiting for Goon tape to sponsor me.

[Host Mike]

So you have a podcast yet?

[Conservative Chocolate]

No, no, I just want a good tape. That's, that's really what that, that comment?

[Host Mike]

Yeah, I just want sponsors dog.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I just want a good tape. Honestly, I just, I just want to use this because I have an old one. It's not Goon tape. But I feel weird because it's like, I know you guys, and I'm always on here, but then on my. On my sidearm, I always have, like, this other brand, and I'm like, dude, I was thinking of it, but you

[Host Mike]

have, like, all the time. They're like, hand this out to your buddies when they come, dude. Obviously they don't send us, like, truckloads that we can send out to the 99 free, but they send us enough to where if people come and crave does it, they do it. We've got a bunch of stuff from Flatline. I don't have any beds from Ghostbed,

[Conservative Chocolate]

obviously, but Ghostbuster hasn't sent you one mattress.

[Host Mike]

No, they. They hook it up, but they don't have, like, hey, come grab a be.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yo, you got a bed, bro? Nah, bro. I mean, you got an extra bed, bro? Got an extra bed back there I could take?

[Host Mike]

Yeah, Vengeance, you know, they're Vengeance. Jason from Vengeance is amazing. All of our sponsors, dude, I give mad props to them, and I'll talk about them real quick. You know, they. They take care of our buddies when they start podcasts. That's why I ask everybody. Let me know when you have a podcast, because these guys, when they came on board, the anti hero white skull with the green hat was getting 50, 60, 70 hundred thousand views a video per week. And we were doing two videos a week. We were getting more exposure so fast. And they. I kept them at a very, very, very low price. And I knew that because that's just good business. You know, we were. I had it a feeling in my bones that we were. We were trajecting too fast. It was going to. Yes, and it was. And it did, obviously. And a lot of these guys stayed on. And I said, I, you know, we're gonna build this community back, but I really appreciate it. And they're like, no, dude, you. You're a good you. They. They tell me, you guys are good people. You guys take care of us. We're here to take care of you. So these guys get orders from the 99 real. It. It just. You guys all help us out so much because, you know, business is business. As much as I like somebody, if it ain't good business, I'm eventually one day gonna have to say like, hey, dude, I can't keep doing this. You know, it's not the March of Dimes here. So far, all of our sponsors are very, very happy. They've always been happy, and they're still continuing to be Happy. And that's because everybody's happy. You guys order from them and, you know, they see that promo code come in and they're like, okay, the Anti Hero is still. They're still kicking. So. But yeah, without these sponsors, man, they're. We. I'll be honest with you, without Mike and without these sponsors, I don't know what Antihero's future would have looked like. You can't stop me and one camera in my day. I know that. Well, we wouldn't have.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I had to plug myself in there.

[Host Mike]

That's very true, but it's. I'm talking before we even met, before we even knew.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, I got you. I got you, I got you.

[Host Mike]

Now we know you. And now Anti Heroes. I don't think you can stop Anti Hero now, even if they tried. But before, when we were down a lot, I mean, you can look at the numbers, the data's there. And yeah, man, every. Everybody takes care of us. Our sponsors, the 99, you know, so me and Mike, we show up. You, Nick, Justin, everybody shows up to help. Everybody is very knowledgeable in what they do. And, you know, I know I can. How many times cc, have you been called in the last two weeks randomly, with almost zero notice and asked to fill in and just start doing you last night. Come on, man.

[Conservative Chocolate]

12 o', clock, one in the morning. Or some like you?

[Host Mike]

Well, it's because Natalie hit me up and I usually Natalie our graphic design girls on the west coast. So she's three hours behind. I usually hit her up around 10. I let the whole day go by and then I hit her up around 10 and I go, hey, this is what the thumbnail needs to be by tomorrow morning. And I usually wake up to it and it was almost one in the morning and she's like, thumbnail, dude. So I had to text CC and I'm like, I don't even know what to put on the thumbnail because guess what, by the way, cc, can you fill in them all?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

I was so focused on night shift. We got done with the broadcast, my immediate focus shifted to night shift. And then a night shift ended and then I forgot that we had to prep. You know, Mike being out sucks. You're. When you're used to. And when I was out, it sucked for him. It just. When your mic is a piece of. Yeah, man. And he stole all the good help. When I went first, I went on. When I went out of town first, everybody was like, dude, I'll help out Mike, I got you. Like, it was Fresh, everybody. Week two.

[Conservative Chocolate]

But now it's my second week.

[Host Mike]

Everyone's like, damn, dude. I've already filled in, like, seven times, dog. Yeah, yeah, I got you, bro. But you could tell the tones, like, when's Mike coming back? I would like a day off at some point, so. But, yeah, I. I owe everything I have to all of you guys. You know, my. I tell people all the time the food on my family's table is because of people like cece, Justin, Mike, the 99 are sponsors. Like, all of you guys. Like, I know this sounds like a pity party, but I owe everything I have, y', all, so I will give everything I have. Even John. Even John, the tier three Ranger. I owe it to him.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Somebody. Somebody commented, don't just grab a tc. They'll put you on blast for stealing, like, the. Like, the C4s. So I came in the office today, and I was gonna wrap my new rifle with goon tape, but lo and behold, the.

[Host Mike]

You know, it's funny that we ran with that, with all the craziness that was going on with that whole situation where we were like, well, we can at least make fun of the sequel for. Because that's funny. No one's like, I'm not personally attacked or offended by somebody. Just kind of feeling so entitled. Like, he wasn't trying to sneak it. It was just the type of person. So. But yeah, making a. Like, a CC in a hoodie. Like, oh, there's a black guy in our studio stealing all of our goon

[Conservative Chocolate]

with a big nose and a small hat.

[Host Mike]

I can't tell if he's Jewish or black.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Long figures like this. Yes, yes. Clint said CC is pretty reliable for a bad dude. W. W. Hey, yo, Clint.

[Host Mike]

You available for a phone call later? Towards the end of the broadcast? Let us know. We haven't heard from Clint in a while.

[Conservative Chocolate]

We haven't heard from John275 either. Oh, donuts there, Justin.

[Host Mike]

Oh, Justin. Did he make it home?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Did you make it home, Justin? I had beef with Justin's podcast.

[Host Mike]

You haven't been on it yet. Is that why?

[Conservative Chocolate]

No, I just. It's very misleading.

[Host Mike]

Why?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Because his. His whole podcast is named Donut Shop

[Host Mike]

Podcast, and there's no donuts.

[Conservative Chocolate]

There's no. Not only is there no donuts, I. After months of looking into his. His videos and watching all his content, not one donut rating was done. Not one. Not one donut rating. It's crazy. It's crazy work. That's like me having a podcast called the Good Burgers and Then you watch me talk for an hour and I didn't take out one burger or try it.

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Pretty crazy.

[Host Mike]

Fair, dude. That's fair.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Pretty crazy. It's like you. It's like us being the anti hero podcast and then never mentioning anything anti. Any heroes.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, that's like us going with the flow.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. And I don't think he films in Duncan, Dylan. I think he films in like a. Like a local donut shop. Do you know Tyler?

[Host Mike]

He does. He films. He films in Dunkin Donuts.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, really?

[Host Mike]

They have. I guess Dunkin Donuts have, like, meeting rooms for, like, executives. So.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Get the out of here.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And have, like, coffee and donuts and you just run out the room and that's what he does.

[Conservative Chocolate]

He really.

[Host Mike]

No, he rents it out. He rents out Dunkin Donuts?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Well, Dylan, apparently he does. He goes to Donuts. Huh? Who knew? This is like the. The Justin lore that we didn't know about,

[Host Mike]

so I thought this was pretty funny. Let me.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I'm not. I'm not with you guys. 10%, 50%. I will always be the voice for the people in Israel. I will always stand behind the country of Israel, the one and only Floyd Money Mayweather and Israel. I will always be here for you guys when you guys don't have a voice. And like I said before, I'm not. I'm not what you.

[Host Mike]

I don't know. I had no idea that even happened. When did Ford Money weigh there all of a sudden?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yo, there's no way. There's no way.

[Host Mike]

He's usually flashing bands and talking and never sold out to anything. And then you see this where he's just full draped. It's almost comical.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Dude, there's no way they got Floyd up there. I love Israel. Whatever Israel ever needs, I'm here for him.

[Host Mike]

Here's another good one, bro.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That's great.

[Host Mike]

All right, you ready for some Dominic Izzo? Guys, this is. Apparently. This looks a little older. All right,

[Conservative Chocolate]

I want you to remember the respect part. You tweeted, I'm for starting a movement of torching the elf out of all

[Host Mike]

BLM Black Lives Matter flag.

[Conservative Chocolate]

But that would be a waste of money. So instead I just ordered my first

[Host Mike]

Black Lives Matter flag. Got it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Are we just. They always have the accent. It's like. It's like they put on. Yeah, yeah, so. So they put on the fake glasses because I guarantee you those aren't prescription. They put on the fake glasses because in their head, like. Like, just chat, chat. Hear me out. Think about it. Every time you see them doing this number where they put on their little suit and they put on the fake glasses and then. And then they start having the accent. Because lives and because the car.

[Host Mike]

Oh, there's like a little jive to it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I got Rico Smooth over here with these fake glasses. You know they're not real because it's always the same glasses, the square ones anyway. Yeah, run it. And we'll be vlogging and documenting. When I use it to pick up my dog's ish. Each time he goes makes me wish I had a horse. Now. A horse is your goal, public, through education, empowerment and respect. Do you find that?

[Host Mike]

No, there's no, there's no respect for Black Lives Matter in that. I don't respect black. Black Lives Matter.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Let me go through another one then.

[Host Mike]

Why.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, you said that the black national anthem is racist and offensive. Yeah, 100. Let me finish the quote.

[Host Mike]

If I ever hear it in public,

[Conservative Chocolate]

I'm going to return the favor and talk loudly over it like some folk

[Host Mike]

do in movie theater.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Okay. What's racist about the black national anthem?

[Host Mike]

Lift every voice and sing.

[Conservative Chocolate]

What's racist about it?

[Host Mike]

What do we need segregation for? I thought, I thought the. The black community was against segregation.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Racist.

[Host Mike]

Sir, about the song. Segregation is racist. Segregation.

[Conservative Chocolate]

The authority.

[Host Mike]

Is this a monologue or dialogue?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Answer the question. What's racist about the song?

[Host Mike]

It's segregation. It's segregation. You are segregating a people.

[Conservative Chocolate]

But again too, that's what liberal whites

[Host Mike]

and liberal black loves to do. They love to wind up keeping people separate and they wind up furthering their own agenda. If you can't see the difference or the. The issue with. Instead of uniting of people. But we have to have division. You're. You're by definition putting your voices above other people.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Do you understand?

[Host Mike]

Let me explain to you, brother, because I, I think you can.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I think you can get this. The national anthem that was adopted, I

[Host Mike]

think in 1931, fully written in 1814.

[Conservative Chocolate]

The national anthem actually has elements of racism inside of the list.

[Host Mike]

If you searched everything, you would find something that would offend somebody. If we're going to take our time. That's real point. If we're going to spend another generation taking down every movie and statue and

[Conservative Chocolate]

nobody's taking down the national anthems. It's a great thing that black people have a song that they can be proud of as well.

[Host Mike]

Why shouldn't collectively all come together and

[Conservative Chocolate]

then edit it and remove.

[Host Mike]

Take a vote from whites, blacks, Hispanics, All Americans to find out what they think is racist. See, the problem with the black community and the liberals, the liberal whites who fuel the black community is there is

[Conservative Chocolate]

this unfortunate settling of, or unsettling, excuse

[Host Mike]

me, of nonstop, repetitive victimhood. There is nothing that's ever going to be good enough so that people can wind up moving forward. And it's a brilliant tactic. It's a brilliant tactic to wind up keeping people always on edge, always defensive, always segregated. So we always have a problem that you liberals can come in and say,

[Conservative Chocolate]

oh, we have the answer to fix it.

[Host Mike]

See, we haven't had a conversation here today.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Let's do this on the other side of the brakes, okay? On the other side of the break. I want to talk about real quick.

[Host Mike]

Like, I. If here's. You could argue that the movie theater part was, like, not political and just a jab, but Dominic. Isa wouldn't be sitting there with this guy because everything Dominic is saying is kind of common sense. You know, I think 80% of the population is like, yes, that it's. It's liberal white people separating us and. And blacks getting involved. It's. It's the liberal movement wanting segregation and division. And so everybody says that. But the reason why Dominic Izzo is on the show is because he threw in the movie theater part. It's. You know, it's kind of like one

[Conservative Chocolate]

of those, like, I mean, Guy Fury, when he told them the movie theater thing, that was hilarious.

[Host Mike]

Which one?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Guy Fury.

[Host Mike]

Oh, that's his name.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, that's Izzo. No, no, no. Izzo is Guy Fury right there. You cannot tell me he doesn't look like he just came off a bit hair. No, the other guy, that's Terence Howard. That. That's who that is right there.

[Host Mike]

Know what's funny about these people, too? Is that when John Madd the black guy.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Huh?

[John Frankman]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

What I really meant was political commentators. John. John Mattingly, the guy who was shot in the Breonna Taylor raid, came on our show a couple times, and he told us when he went and talked, who's the black dude on the morning show with the big thing and, like the big gap in his teeth? I think he played football.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, that's chat. Help me out here. I know exactly who you're talking about.

[Host Mike]

Shannon Sharp.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Is it Shannon Sharp? No, no, that's. He has his own show. He. He. That's. That's Unk. That's somebody completely different.

[Host Mike]

Oh, so this guy with the big. Anyway, the big mattress played football.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Big dude.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. And now he's on like Good Morning America or one of those type shows with a. With a. With a white woman host.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yes.

[Host Mike]

Right.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Excellent combination.

[Host Mike]

Yes. They have a lot in common. And. But John matically said he talked to this guy before the interview. Totally cool. Like, almost seemed pro police. Then they did the interview, and the guy went into work mode and just berated John. Made John, like, have to, like, argue back and forth. And then when they ended it, he went back to the way he was. And I, hey, John was like, it's just a job for these people. They are hired guns to be provocative, piss people off, say things that are going to cause division. But their real identity and their real beliefs, they're never going to say on TV because they'll get fired.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. Michael Stratum is his name, by the way. Michael Stratum.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, we'll finish this up real quick.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Thank you. Chat what you call victimhood, and we're

[Host Mike]

going to talk about reparations. I went over some rant that you did.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I want you to remember the respect. Oh, that's it. You had two seconds, apparently, bro, that. I mean, these. These people. And this is what pisses me off, right? When people ask me what ethnicity, what race, whatever, because it happens all the time, I always reply with the simple answer, I am American. That's it. You're American. Stop the already. That's the problem. All these people, they don't want to just say, I'm American. They want to single eyes themselves because, oh, I'm this. Oh, I'm that people. And then I tell people where I'm from. They're like, oh, why don't you say that? And I'm like, well, because I'm not from there. I'm from America. America. I am American. You know, American. They want to be so different, so bad dude. And. And ISO had a good point there. If you look at something hard enough, you're gonna find the reason a. You're gonna find the reason a. Yeah, it doesn't matter what it is. It's like when your wife keeps talking to you.

[Host Mike]

We can't just. We can't just have a good day, babe, can we? We just can't have a good day. Said it, not me. I think he's a bad dude. I think he's a bad dude. But I mean, like last night when we were talking about all. Junior, like, that's the. Probably him and Tom Cruise made that movie out of. Outside of those two. It wasn't that great of a movie. And, you know, it's Almost like there's laws. Like, hey, this movie's protected because Ben Stiller's involved and Ben Stiller is one of them. But if, if they just with a click of a button can cancel somebody. Like, do you ever think Robert Downey Jr. Was like around like2019 was like, dude, am I gonna get canceled for something I did 20 years ago?

[Conservative Chocolate]

I mean, I think he thought about it, but then he also remembered that he was Iron Man.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, that's true too. Because if they're gonna.

[Conservative Chocolate]

What are you gonna do? Get a new Iron Man?

[Host Mike]

Yeah, you're gonna denounce pretty much Marvel. I think Iron man was the first Marvel movie ever, was it not?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yep. Iron man was the basis to even be able to start the whole. What was the name of that show with Thanos, the movie? It was, it was a series. Avengers. Yeah. Without Iron man, there is no Avengers, period. And I refuse to argue about it with this, about anybody. Tell the black man he's wrong.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, but, but yeah, that was. It is a man. I. That he, he's very. That. That was a non confrontational. Is. That was a non ex. What do you call that? He wasn't explicitive, explic. Like, he didn't. He wasn't offensive. He was just factual.

[Conservative Chocolate]

He's just like. So anyways, you guys are. Are 13% of the population. But

[Host Mike]

I went and saw, I went and saw Scream 7 last Saturday night with my oldest son and his girlfriend. And we're about 10, 15 minutes into the movie, walking in, and they sit down and they proceed to talk for 10 minutes straight to the point where one of them goes, y' all be so loud, dog. Like. And it's just like I was sitting there like, man, it hasn't changed. I haven't been to a movie in probably three years and it hasn't changed.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, I mean, it's usually the same group of people who do the same stupid. And that's just, you know what I'm saying? It is what it is. And people, people who don't want to be realist, you know, that's fine. But this is, this is the reality of, you know, certain demographics do certain stupid. This is what it is.

[Host Mike]

What do you mean? What are you talking about? You mean like this there to talk to no women? You ain't there to walk on the beach. You ain't there to listen to music, have fun and dance. You just there clutching, clutching because you got problems. You to create for yourself and your own personal time. Are you coming to the beach clutching

[Conservative Chocolate]

because you feel like somebody gonna do

[Host Mike]

something to you or you're just doing it to look cool.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Whether the ski masks at the beach is crazy.

[Host Mike]

My feet will be in that water talking to women on the beach side. You can't relax because these. You ain't there to talk. And that's. I got to get to my point. Like all jokes aside, like the fatherless part, like what you're not even doing, you're not even wired to do what a 16 year old boy should be doing is out there talking to girls, maybe trying to get some alcohol, right? Have a good time, get in trouble with the law the way 16 year olds get in trouble with the law historically, Right? Get in trouble with your parents. It's spring break, that's what you should be doing. These kids drinking underage.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Nah, you're over here strapped up, animalistic

[Host Mike]

and so savage that they. This starts when they're like four years old, dude. They have no fathers.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I've posted these videos.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, dude.

[Conservative Chocolate]

With the kids, with the kids clutching. Like the kid is like 5 or 6 years old and he has a extended mag on a magazine with goon tape on it. And I'm like, bro, did they use AntiHero15 for that?

[Host Mike]

You need to get some goon tape, bro.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You need to get some coon tape, man.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, so I mean, I don't know, I. It's factual. It is. I lived it. I worked the hood for a very long time and I just was so it. It'll change you when you actually see. When you met. When you meet a 30 year old man who's never left the west part

[Conservative Chocolate]

of Orlando, the 40 mile radius around

[Host Mike]

them, bro, they've never left.

[Conservative Chocolate]

No clue. No clue.

[Host Mike]

And that. So when they shoot each other, they are defending their world. Like how you would deploy and die for freedom in America. They would die for their block because it's all they know, dude, I'm telling you. Like that. And it's almost like when they start at 4 years old with no father and they're running around the streets with their, with their friends and they don't know how to take bass. They don't know how to talk. Like they really don't even know how to talk. So they learn from their group, they learn from their tribe. Yeah. And it's like, oh man, he's speaking another language, doesn't know how to talk. You know, you get things like this. You get things like just pure savagery and animalistic behavior. Walking around here in Daytona beach in a group In a crowd full of people. And I'm telling you, dude, they don't fear the law. Not because they're badass. They're. And they're not like, you know, they're not outlaws. They don't know reality. They don't know like, I don't know

[Conservative Chocolate]

can disappear in one second. They have no comprehension of that.

[Host Mike]

14 year olds out here doing murder one, execution style murders 14, it's another. I gotta, I gotta be very careful. I gotta be very careful because I

[Conservative Chocolate]

got a video on this. Hold on, let me pull this up.

[John Frankman]

I'm gonna send it to you.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I got, I got a wild video on this. But, but I will, I will double, double down and back you up with that. Because that's, that's just, it's just the reality. Like it's the way they operate and the way they operate is just, you know, I don't give a. About the police. And listen, man, now I'm saying if that, you know what I'm saying? He come in here, he'll get a head tap. Boy. That's what I'm talking about. You don't around, man. Not me. And that's it. That was the whole. That was a conversation. You just didn't understand it.

[Host Mike]

You really tapped into it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, I know how to, I know how to set switch. It's a very important trait to have.

[Host Mike]

Were you a black guy for Halloween? Once?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. Yeah, one time. Yeah. Look at this. I'm saying this, this is a good one. And this was in Miami Dade County. Just sent it to you. Then I have another one I'm looking for. Let me see if I find this it another video. Dude, I try to download and post so many videos that sometimes I completely forget to actually post it because like some will come up and now I'm busy. I'm like a. I hate it here. If you guys don't know that. Is the song, the theme song for Law Order svu, the best show ever.

[Host Mike]

Hello. Anyway, you said it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, I said yeah, fancy.

[Host Mike]

Here.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Should I send it to Morrows?

[Host Mike]

No, I got it. The last one.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I just sent it right now.

[Host Mike]

All right. Posting it now. All right. Yes. Yeah.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Supposedly.

[Host Mike]

Yes.

[Conservative Chocolate]

The jury in Miami Dade County, Florida, this day, first day of October 2025, finding defendant Marcus Travon Ely guilty of first degree murder.

[Host Mike]

And like that, a murder case from 2023 is over. Over a course of nearly a week, prosecutors convinced a jury that Marcus Ely shot and killed a 21 year old in North Miami Beach. The Murder caught on camera moments before. Video shown to the jury shows Ely robbing Malcolm Johnson Jr. Of a gold medallion. But it wasn't enough for Marcus to take his chain or his medallion. He had to take his last chance. So he finished him off by shooting him in the head, which was an unsurvivable wound. In a rare move, Ely took the stand in his own defense. Prosecutors grilled him.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I was a little intoxicated, but I really don't know.

[Host Mike]

You found it funny. You find it funny that you killed a person. And the truth is you were lying, lying and lying and lying to avoid paying you for what you did. Okay.

[Conservative Chocolate]

First off is the Indian guy.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. We need to get a new. And I'm here to talk to you about the credit card.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Okay.

[John Frankman]

And the truth is.

[Host Mike]

Okay. That you will keep fighting. Eli's brother also took the stand. He told jurors his loved one was the killer. He recognized him from the murder video that also circulated online. Who is this person fighting? It's my brother. Your brother? What's the name of the brother?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Marcus. Are you sure he's your brother?

[Host Mike]

The other person in the video, Mario. He already pleaded guilty to robbing the necklace and his involvement in the murder. Prosecutors gave him a reduced sentence in exchange for his testimony. Why were you guys going to abandon the car there? To get rid of it. Why are you trying to get rid of it? Because the car was using the homicide.

[Conservative Chocolate]

The jury.

[Host Mike]

Whoa, dude, that's what I'm talking about, bro. There's. There's no. I don't know. Again, you can. And sometimes I look at it and I'm like, man, I watch movies and tv, right? We watch our badass character walk up and put a bullet like a cowboy in the bad guy, and you're like, hell, yeah, that. We see it in real life, and we're like, wow, this is a cold, calculated killer. Like, they don't. They don't. And. And, you know, in the military, we send guys into buildings who just double tap people and keep moving. So it's almost like you can't attack the mindset so much. I mean, I don't know, it's an

[Conservative Chocolate]

indoctrination that they have going on. And. And I. And I can tell you, because I grew up around these people, and, you know, it. It's. It's an indoctrination process to where in your head you're thinking, catching souls and doing the head tap on the ops is how you earn your stripes. Like, these are not even worried about having. Having girls Anymore. They're not worried about having money. They just want to have the most head taps. They want to have the most souls in the block because that. Hey, man, you know, I mean, around, boy. Get a head tap now. I'm saying around. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's it. That was the conversation right there. That was the conversation right there. That's it. It's. It's insane. It's insane. He just got slimed out by somebody for a fake chain. Guaranteed the chain wasn't real. You know how much money with gold at this price that chain would cost? I think $120,000 chain right there.

[Host Mike]

Come on, bro, out of here. Well, we'll segue a little bit more back into politics from black people culture by using a black person in a political meme. Real. This is how we. This is how we do it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

This is how we segue now.

[Host Mike]

This has nothing to do with the black community. Muslims, I posted this uniform. Yeah, I know. I stole it from you. I think I stole it from you. I saw it from you. I don't know if this is your actual one.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Run that. Would you refuse a command if it said towards Muslims?

[Host Mike]

First off, is she eating like a cheese stick? What is she eating?

[Conservative Chocolate]

She's stuffing her beak with. I don't know what the that is. It looks like a piece of pasta. Because they eat with their hands. You know, this.

[Host Mike]

I mean, second, I'm gonna. Before I attack the. The head garb, I'm gonna attack the fact that she's more morbidly obese for being in the military. And I thought maybe this isn't an actual service member. But the backdrop does speak.

[Conservative Chocolate]

It looks like she's in a. It looks like she's in a guard unit. You were in guardians. You know how that looks? That's the bay.

[Host Mike]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[John Frankman]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

The world must know she's a fat, anti American Muslim and she's an E3. Yeah, I know, right?

[Conservative Chocolate]

She's a private. She's a private.

[Host Mike]

If something tells me when she's not

[Conservative Chocolate]

passing, I didn't wait.

[Host Mike]

Something tells me when she's brought in, she's not gonna give a. And it's almost like, intimidating for people to even try to discipline her because she doesn't give a. Okay, well, you can. If you can scare a soldier, you can discipline a soldier, but when they don't care.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, I mean, honestly, though, if attending on the main university world, you. CBC podcast. I brought. I already talked about that two weeks ago. Two weeks ago, we talked about the ROTC guys getting a Purple Heart. You sent them?

[Host Mike]

No, but I think they were actually awarded.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Oh, do they already get pinned?

[Host Mike]

I don't know. Let's see.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, because we. We talked about that already, that they were getting the Purple Heart.

[Host Mike]

And I mean, yeah, I actually clipped that. It was the first clip ever. And I think counterculture or anti hero history without me or Mike in the clip. And it did really well. So it goes to show, me and Mike are very replaceable. I texted Mike, I was like, I just put out a real bar. But when I went to do all the collaborations, I was like, me or you both weren't in it. It was weird.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Also, just. Just to side comment on that, because John makes a good point. And I brought this point up the first time we talked about this. You cannot get a CIB or Purple Heart stateside. This is coming from the SEC death that. That's approving these awards. I'm not saying I'm against it. I think they should get the award. I'm just saying that goes to show you the power, the power of the current administration and doing the right thing. Because I think wholeheartedly that those awards were earned and they should get a Purple Heart. But to Ja's point, no, you can't. You cannot get a Purple Heart state side. But somebody very high up the food chain pushed us and they got a Purple Heart, as they should. My opinion. That's. That's me. And it depends real quick, just, just somebody else commented something. You can be a cadet, but also still be in the army. Like, there's a certain point in that contract where you sign up, you're getting paid, you're doing drills or going to the units or doing whatever the. And you're in. You're just not commissioned. But you are in the military. It's like.

[Host Mike]

And at least are you considered non commissioned still or not even non commissioned,

[Conservative Chocolate]

so you get the respect, but you're not commissioned yet. You're paid as an E5 and you walk around with a little circle on your chest. But once you start showing up at drills, you do have a contractual obligation.

[Host Mike]

So you're in a weird limbo of like non commissioned, but you're not commissioned either. You're like, yeah, pre commissioned.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

So you're not as shitty and gross as non commissioned personnel. We won't make you go over there with them. But you're not commissioned.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. Remember? Yeah. Well, honestly though, I've never seen somebody talk to one of those people because they do eventually get that rank and they do have.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, they don't forget those.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Will not forget, bro. But that's. I think I. I. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Host Mike]

No, go, go, go.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Okay.

[Host Mike]

Okay.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I was just gonna say, I think that's more on the guard side. I don't know if that's a thing. Active duty side. I don't think so. But at least on the guard side, you will have two things. Either people who are already in the Guard, who are just trying to commission, and they're going through the ROTC process instead of. What is it? Oh, what is it? Ocs or they are fresh. Fresh, fresh. Never been to the Guard yet, but they want to go to the guard commission. And they're doing rotc. And those people do show up to units. I've seen those people with aerosol. I've seen those people with. Those people with. With the. What's the other one? Airborne. All that. So they get schools, too, Believe it or not.

[Host Mike]

Really,

[Conservative Chocolate]

Those people do get schools. They get sent to the schoolhouse as

[Host Mike]

a cadet, and they don't. And. And if we're talking Guard and reserves and all that stuff, they don't even have to do PT tests, apparently, judging by that one chick we just watched.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Well, depending on your unit. I mean, bro, I've. I've been in. In units where you don't. You don't do a PT test in four years.

[Host Mike]

That's insane, dude.

[Conservative Chocolate]

It is. It is pretty insane.

[Host Mike]

Oh, look at this guy. What are you doing?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Are you at a clinic?

[Host Mike]

What are you doing?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Do you have methadone there?

[Host Mike]

No, I'm in the shitter. What is he doing?

[Conservative Chocolate]

He's in the.

[Host Mike]

You're in the shitter? I'm in the shitter. I'm at acne. What's acme?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Acme is a supermarket. Can you hear me?

[Host Mike]

Yeah. You got really bad service, dude.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Whip it out live on camera.

[Host Mike]

Nick, I'll tell you what, man. You got really bad service and really bad delay. So I'll see you on open mic in a couple hours.

[Conservative Chocolate]

McDonald's toilet. What?

[Host Mike]

The McDonald FaceTimes US on A.

[Conservative Chocolate]

He's coming in like, Tyler,

[Host Mike]

what does that mean?

[Conservative Chocolate]

When you were throwaway to the gym and.

[Host Mike]

Oh, was that pretty laggy then? I probably was, huh?

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. Peaches on you,

[Host Mike]

dude. He always shits on me.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Peach is like, is he serious right now?

[Host Mike]

Is he got. This is what he did, you guys, is he serious right now? And I was like, is this serious right now? Like my show, asking if I'm serious? And I'm like, was it Mike or him. I don't know who said it.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You're like, you see that skull with a green hat? I made that skull.

[Host Mike]

I'm sitting here waiting to talk. I'm like, is anybody just gonna let me talk? I didn't want to be there that long. I just wanted to come in and say, hey, you need to tell us your VA Disability rating, because that's part of your ploy as a communist. You shouldn't be taking any of that to say whether or not we should

[Conservative Chocolate]

be more with the wrong.

[Host Mike]

I would love for him to be here right now and tell us if we should or should not. Here's where I stand and where the MAGA base stands. We do not want u. S. Boots on the ground.

[John Frankman]

We do not want American kinetic involvement.

[Host Mike]

This is Israel's war.

[John Frankman]

Make sure we don't go to war

[Conservative Chocolate]

against Iran, which would be a profound mistake for our country.

[Host Mike]

So that. That's a really, really important thing. It's pathologically insane. I'm sorry. It is. Do you understand how large Iran is? It's massive. It's a very big country. It's mountainous.

[John Frankman]

It makes Afghanistan and Iraq look like a cakewalk.

[Host Mike]

This is more Israel pushing for Iran. But is that America's problem?

[John Frankman]

That's a. I mean, maybe the answer is yes.

[Host Mike]

Maybe the answer is, you know what? They were wrong about Iraq. They were wrong about Syria. They were wrong about Afghanistan. They were wrong about the Taliban. And if you guys. I didn't pre anybody before. If you're listening to this, that is Erica Kirk at the very beginning saying, we'd love to hear what Charlie would have to say about boots on ground and Iran. And then somebody stitched all of the times Charlie Kirk brought up the fact that he and MAGA base don't want to be in Iran as an official occupation. Yeah, that's.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That's very awkward. That's.

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I mean, there's so much, bro. He has, like, what, a hundred years worth of content out there. That's long form. Like, we know what he said. Also, I did have questions, but I wasn't sure, so I just kind of played it by ear. I. I saw that message super late. Me.

[Host Mike]

Well. What, man? Oh, dude, I'm sorry.

[Conservative Chocolate]

No, no, you're good.

[Host Mike]

I texted CC in the middle of interviewing John. I'm like, you got any questions? Fire away. And then every time there would be a pause, the host in me is like, okay, next question from me. Yeah, Yeah, I can't read any of these questions because they're asking like,

[Conservative Chocolate]

do you do fentanyl? Answer the question.

[Host Mike]

All right, let me. That one. There's that one or that one.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Mark, I don't know what. What? Donnie got up his sleeves because is looking rough right now.

[Host Mike]

This one's pretty funny, dude.

[John Frankman]

The house.

[Conservative Chocolate]

This look. Yeah, we gonna in the back of the bus and feel her nose up full.

[Host Mike]

So if you guys are listening again and not watching, that is a. A video collage of Trump hugging Erica or Erica Kirk. And then while she's like lay like hugging him in.

[John Frankman]

In.

[Host Mike]

In grievance, Trump does this weird like looks at the camera smile. They pause it there. And then they go to a. The clipping wedding crashers where Will Ferrell's holding that grieving widow. And he's like, yeah, I got it, boys. Thought that was a pretty funny meme.

[Conservative Chocolate]

What's up, Pride? Welcome in. Welcome in.

[Host Mike]

Pride. Just waking up or is he just.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah, probably just waking up, man.

[Host Mike]

Tyler says. Tyler, we need more FD videos. We played like three last night, dude. What the fire department? Oh, I'm assuming Mark Fire. It's probably safe to say that he's a firefighter. Yeah, yeah, man. We'll get as many as we can. I know Gator sent us. Sent me the three we use. My algorithm has nothing to a fire. In fact, I'm gonna cut a good one about Peach going. I don't understand why somebody would risk their life for property. I'll cut that into a good reel.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah. That's very anti American of him. And anti capitalist.

[Host Mike]

Peaches somebody also.

[Conservative Chocolate]

I don't think there's. I don't think there's too much firefighter videos out there. It's like, all right, it's like I

[Host Mike]

said, police body worn camera will always provide. There will never ever be a lack of police videos. And so that's why you can kind of have. They're always there.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You have an entire platform based on this.

[Host Mike]

Yeah. So you can't go.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You can't go wrong with some nice body cam footage of the police doing some wild.

[Host Mike]

Oh, well, Mark, I just now saw his profile icon bigger and it is a firefighter. So yes, I'm assuming Mark R62 is a firefighter. Said, what time is open mic? That is 3:00pm but that is on the Counterculture Inc. YouTube. That's where we wrap up the entire week of the whole network. Anybody that doesn't understand what counterculture is, I say this all the time. Anti hero is like the 50 Cent. Counterculture is the G unit. Counterculture is comprised of A lot of people that help out. Anti hero and counterculture is our way of giving them the most platforms that we can. It's full of a lot of good podcasts, even podcasters that haven't even released podcasts like cc. Eventually one day we might get a conservative chocolate podcast, but until then he's wrapped up an anti hero shooting with us every single day. So I don't know when he would find. But yeah, counterculture, he's got a lot of in house shows. We put together Counterculture Inc. Sports, we got open mic today. We've got Night Shift last night. We've got unfiltered on Phase which is for the females, the conservative Christian female group. What else we got? I feel like we're missing one.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Soon we will have a another female show with just black females to appease to that community as well.

[Host Mike]

We have a large demographic of black females that watch us, so it's a good thing we're doing that.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yes, 90 of the people who watch our videos are black females. I don't know why he's laughing. I tried. I try to keep it in. Somebody check on Kermit.

[Host Mike]

There's a part of me that thinks he was playing into it. I don't think. I've never seen Peach get upset. I think, I think at first, at first when I'm watching him stare at the TV like this, I'm like, yo, earth to Peach. And he's like, what the. Someone's talking. And I think someone said something that he saw that none of us saw. I really do think there was a comment about a girl he dated that I. Oh, I can't. I can't see the TV from where I'm sitting on Night Shift. I always have my phone out and that's how I go through the comments. So I'm looking at comments on YouTube that are allowed by counterculture. If somebody was blocked because they're just pieces of or hidden, I should say they're never blocked, they're just hidden. You like I explained last night, you can see see that in the stream yard comments. And maybe that's what he saw because he was like, someone said some about some girl I dated and I'm like, I don't see that anywhere. And I think that's what got him on the trajectory of being pissed. And then of course Brady poking at him and ja.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Brady was on him.

[Host Mike]

I think towards the end he was playing into it a little bit. What's up? Oh, Kenny. Kenny Williams, beyond the Barrel podcast. He is nice speaking.

[Conservative Chocolate]

What Bear, are we. Are we talking about. Is that like, like whiskey? Does he sell whiskey? Is that his thing?

[Host Mike]

Yeah. Yep. He's not a drinker, though, which is kind of funny. But speaking of Kenny and beyond the Barrel podcast and the Justice Academy, we will be going to Justice X April 21st through the 24th in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. There is going to be three and a half days of amazing. Mostly law enforcement classes, but there are a lot of leadership classes in there. You can get the Managing the Mission with Tom Rizzo. Effective communication. Those two. Right. There are just general. More leadership courses, probably governmental leadership courses. You got auto theft case law. Frontline leadership. Again, could be applied to anybody. Open source intelligence.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Can we pause right there?

[Host Mike]

Yeah.

[Conservative Chocolate]

OSA intelligence is probably the most underlooked thing in the world. Like, this is. This is a thing. And as an intel guy myself. And we can talk about that offline. As an intel guy myself, Oent intelligence is probably some of the most practical you can use to paint the battlefield, stop upcoming threats or in a police sense, lock people the up because they want to post with an illegal gun, being a felon on probation and that.

[Host Mike]

And that is a lot of new cops. What they do is, is I never did this because I was so. I was on social media all the time and I never wanted. But they'll. They'll create a fake profile that they want. They won't engage anybody. Like, so you can't. As a patrol cop, you don't have the authority to really go and start doing like, setting up your own undercover stuff. Like, you could get in trouble doing that. But what you are allowed to do. Yeah, what you are allowed to do is you can create a profile. And what they'll do is if you're in the hood, right, you want to see who's what, where. Why, like John Tavius, I know he's not in jail and I know he lives around here somewhere, but John Tavius has got three warrants. What's the best way to figure out what John Tavius is doing? Make a get on Instagram.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Yeah.

[Host Mike]

No, tracking his phone. I'm not talking about any type of warrant. I'm talking about get on Instagram. You work that hood, right? You get on Instagram and you start looking at what, what walls behind John Tavius when he's posing with his guns and with his boys. And you go, I know that wall that's over there at, you know, 42nd street and OBT, right? I know. I know where that apartment complex is. That's how you Go. And then you at least know where he's operating out of. And they do that all the time. And what the cops will do is they'll create an Instagram, adds a black female. And of course, when you get notified, female is following you, these guys are like, whoa. Oh, okay.

[Conservative Chocolate]

You post some hard. Yeah.

[Host Mike]

And they never engage with these guys. They just follow them from an account. And it, it's, it's really crafty. And there's nothing saying you can't do that part, but that's part of open source intelligence. These guys are posting this stuff to see parcels. Human trafficking. That's a good one. Undercover ops. That's a good one. Retail theft, canine deployment, Proactive policing.

[Conservative Chocolate]

That's cool.

[Host Mike]

Consensual encounters, very important one, because that's. I think that's almost like a lost art in policing. Just free encounters with people, just talking with people, and critical incidents again, which could be. Could be as proposed as more of a leadership class. So again, we'll be at Justice X. If you guys can make it. It's only 99 for three and a half days. We'll be there the entire time. We'll be broadcasting from the conference and then we'll be doing night shift at a pub down the road live. I know Clint will be there. Clint's brother will be there. I know a couple of the guys are trying to go. So if you guys can.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Are. When you go to this, do they give like, like certs and stuff or just.

[Host Mike]

Yeah, you'll get, you'll get a Justice X Academy. I don't know if you get a cert per class, but usually you get something saying that you went to this court like you went to this conference. I'll have to get with Kenny on that. That's a good question because I've been answering for cranny and then finding out I was wrong the whole time.

[Conservative Chocolate]

Jesus Christ.

[Host Mike]

But here's the thing about Kenny, is that the community's small enough to where if you go to one of these and you need something stating that, hey, man, Kenny, I went to that. Like, I went to Justice X last month and I need something stating that I, I sat through the class of parcels, right? I'm trying to get on the parcel unit. I need something. Kenny has the ability to get you a Justice Academy certificate stating that you did this for X amount of hours. That's. That's the beauty of.

[Conservative Chocolate]

There you go.

[Host Mike]

I don't know if it's 40 hours, right? But he, he'll definitely get you something. Stating that you went to that particular class. Right. And so, yeah, man, you guys show up, it's gonna be a good time. Obviously it's a cop conference, so Kenny's not going to tell you like the shenanigans, but lots of the boys get together, they go out, they have a good time. You exchange information. You get to know other cops from parts of the country. You start networking. Then you're friends with cops in California, Florida, New York. It's a good time. It's. It. These are lost. These events are lost in our community of law enforcement and they need to come back. And so this is. This is a really good, good way to do that. So that being said, man, we are out of time. Did your mic cut out or you just.

[Conservative Chocolate]

No, I'm looking at some breaking to make sure it's not different from what I said earlier. If there's any changes. Yeah, so just. Just a recap on tsa. So apparently DHS is reopened, which how the do you close a whole agency? It still baffles me and to fully fund the TSA without giving a single dollar to ice but I'm gonna have to look into this and we'll talk about this at three because that. That still doesn't make sense to me. How the do you just. Just wait, just turn off the water? Like, does it make any sense? So I gotta say, like, is it true that ICE isn't actually getting paid?

[Host Mike]

All right, we might have to do an emergency broadcast later on if you're super bored breaking. I got a lot of things going on. My wife's still out of town, so I'm just chilling. Chilling. Let me know, man. We'll rock and roll. 8:00pm Friday night. Emergency broadcast. Irene. Bomb. Bomb. Irene. All right, guys. Today, 3pM Eastern Standard Time. Counterculture Inc. Network open mic. Be a good time. See. JV team for life. Everything feels more expensive right now. That's why this matters. TikTok Shop has a huge selection of products with surprising deals. You don't expect affordable finds for everyday life. Download TikTok now.