Ukraine DRONE Swarm DEVASTATES Russia (05/18/2026)

Summary

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The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: Ukraine DRONE Swarm DEVASTATES Russia (05/18/2026)
Date: May 19, 2026
Hosts: Tom, Mike, and segment co-host Canine

Episode Overview

In this high-energy, irreverent episode, Tom and Mike go live from Worcester, Massachusetts, with their signature mix of news analysis, law enforcement banter, and blue-collar humor. The main story is the historic Ukrainian drone swarm attack on Russia—a dramatic escalation in the ongoing conflict, covered with unique commentary, inside sources, and a no-nonsense take. The hosts also showcase viral court drama, discuss law enforcement controversies, break down the relationships between prosecutors and defense attorneys, and finish up with Canine’s lively sports segment.

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Key Segments & Highlights

1. Ukraine’s Massive Drone Strike on Russia

• [03:11] Tom introduces the main topic: Ukraine’s retaliatory drone attack on Russia. He draws a parallel to the Israel-Palestine tit-for-tat bombings.
• [03:58] Tom recaps: At least four killed in Russia, ~600 drones launched across 14 Russian regions, including Moscow. Largest Ukrainian drone attack yet.

  “600 drones. Dude, that's insane.” — Tom [04:43]

• [04:53] Mike shares intel from Wyatt, an inside source: After a failed ceasefire extension, Russia struck Kyiv with 600 drones and 60 missiles, killing 30 civilians. Ukraine responded by sending 500 drones at Moscow, targeting a main refinery and airport as a "pressure tactic" rather than a purely military attack.

  “This is more of a pressure tactic. See, this is what happens. Perhaps you should stop.” — Mike, quoting Wyatt [05:38]

• [05:49] Tom summarizes: The attack is more a show of capability (“a flex”) than an all-out attempt to inflict mass casualties.
• [08:04] Real-world footage and commentary: Mike and Tom discuss videos of explosions and gunfire in Moscow; note that life in the city appears “insanely normal,” traffic barely stops after attacks.

Memorable Quote:

“So it was more of a flex than it was an attack.” — Tom [05:47]

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2. Viral Courtroom Drama: Transgender Lawyer Meltdown

• [09:37] Tom sets up: Shows a viral video of a transgender lawyer having a heated confrontation in court, calling it one of the “crazier things” they've seen.

• The clip is played with live commentary, the lawyer and judge arguing over court decorum, courtroom meltdowns, shouting accusations, and repeated warnings from the bench.

  “My statement. You interrupted again. Do not throw your— I did not throw. It fell off the bench. Please stop stating things that are not true, ma’—” — Transgender Lawyer [10:55]

• The altercation escalates, leading to the lawyer’s removal and complaints of police mistreatment (“I can’t breathe”).

  “That’s as clear as the nose on my face that this woman will not appear before this court because she—” — Mike [12:31]

• Hosts' Commentary:

  • Tom and Mike use the case to discuss the challenges of courtroom order, the impact of mental health and politics in legal professions, and trends surrounding liberalism and legal decorum.
  • They are critical, mixing commentary with humor and skepticism, but spotlight the impact on justice.

  “If we can't have a civilized court hearing ... that's the foundation of our nation in criminal justice ... If you can't get through the basics, we've lost it.” — Mike [18:23]

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3. The Realities of Law Enforcement, Legal Games, & “The System”

• [17:00—22:32] Tom and Mike discuss challenges cops face in court, behind-the-scenes networking among lawyers and judges, and the frustrations of watching the system favor the “buddy-buddy” lawyers over officers or victims.

  • Illustrative anecdotes about depositions, warrants, the difference between defense attorneys who “play the game” vs. activist types.
  • Comparison to “The League” (FX show) with a comical scene about prosecutors and defense attorneys trading plea deals like fantasy drafts.

  “It’s a sham. Unfortunately. It’s a sham.” — Mike [25:00]

• Discussion of tough cases (e.g., child molestation retrials due to juror errors) and prosecutorial/defense “bargaining.”

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4. Crowd Control & Law Enforcement: Pepper Spray at Mall Watch Release

• [26:29] Tom covers a viral incident: police pepper spray crowds at a mall after a new watch release triggers civil unrest.

  “Are you okay with mass pepper spraying of a crowd?” — Tom [27:23]

• Tom and Mike discuss when crowd control is justified, and the influence of police presence/deterrence versus public order priorities.

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5. Police Indictment Debate: Use of Force at McDonald’s

• [28:56] Wichita Falls, TX: A former police officer indicted after pinning a trespassing suspect, grabbing her by the neck and dragging her during arrest.
• Tom and Mike breakdown “trespass arrest” procedures:
  • The need for clear instruction from property representatives to trespass/arrest.
  • The difference between lawful vs. excessive use of force based on the legitimacy of the arrest.

  “If the rest is no good, then anything you're doing is excessive force.” — Tom [36:57]

  • Importance of following due process and the common misunderstandings among officers and the public.

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6. Small Town Law Enforcement Sex Scandal (“Hog Fishing”)

• [40:40] Mike reports on a sex scandal at Aiken County Sheriff’s Office: patrol sergeant caught with dispatcher and another deputy, underage drinking, terminations follow.
  • Story used as a launching pad for a running inside joke: “hog fishing” (being fooled by a dispatcher’s voice vs. seeing them in real life).

  “That’s a new term I just coined today. Don’t get hog fished.” — Mike [43:46]

• Side commentary about police academy advice and getting “hog fished” as cautionary humor for rookie cops.

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7. SPORTS: MMA & NBA Playoffs Breakdown (with Canine)

[44:37+]

• Mike Perry vs. Nate Diaz and the launch of MVP Promotions' Netflix pay-per-view:

  “Gina Carano... got tapped out in 15 seconds. She got paid $1.5 million for this fight... a hundred thousand dollars a second.” — Canine [46:43]

• Jake Paul’s “MVP” as UFC competition: Discussion on streaming numbers, money, why Jake Paul may never rival Dana White’s UFC legacy.
• Conor McGregor vs. Max Holloway announced for International Fight Week:

  “Saturday, July 11th it's actually scheduled to be a five round fight... They have fought once previously... McGregor won by decision in that fight [in 2013].” — Canine [51:15]

• Debate on money fights vs. championship runs: Speculation on whether McGregor is still a contender or just a draw.
• NBA Playoffs predictions: Knicks versus OKC, Cavaliers and Knicks, player dynamics and why the Knicks could win it all.

  “I think the Knicks can win everything. … The key factor is Karl-Anthony Towns.” — Canine [49:12]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “600 drones. Dude, that's insane.” — Tom [04:43]
• “This is more of a pressure tactic. … We can hit you all the way. We can hit you.” — Mike (quoting Wyatt) [05:38]
• “If we can't have a civilized court hearing… that's the foundation of our nation…” — Mike [18:23]
• “Don’t get hog fished.” — Mike [43:46]
• “My statement. You interrupted again…” — Transgender Lawyer [10:55]
• “It’s a sham. Unfortunately. It’s a sham.” — Mike [25:00]
• “That’s a new term I just coined today. Don’t get hog fished.” — Mike [43:46]
• “Gina Carano... got tapped out in 15 seconds. She got paid $1.5 million for this fight... a hundred thousand dollars a second.” — Canine [46:43]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:11] Ukraine drone attack main story introduction
• [04:53] Inside source details on Russian and Ukrainian strikes
• [05:47] Summary: Was the Ukrainian strike a “flex”?
• [09:37] Viral courtroom outburst and analysis
• [17:00—22:32] Law enforcement and the legal system: networking, challenges, real talk
• [26:29—28:56] Mall crowd pepper spray incident
• [28:56—37:14] McDonald’s cop indictment, use of force, trespassing law
• [40:40—43:58] Aiken County sheriff’s sex scandal, “hog fishing”
• [44:37—56:36] Sports: MVP card breakdown, UFC, NBA, fight predictions

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Tone & Language

The episode is unapologetically blue-collar, direct, and loaded with irreverent banter. Law enforcement lingo, gallows humor, and no-holds-barred opinions dominate, punctuated by camaraderie and the occasional off-color joke. The hosts keep the action quick, throwing in real-world experience and mockery of viral headlines.

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Summary in a Nutshell

• Ukraine’s drone offensive marks a major escalation: Not just military, but symbolic “flex.”
• Viral videos of courtroom chaos spark discussion on the justice system, legal games, and social trends—with sharp police perspective.
• Sports analysis brings a strong dose of entertainment, with detailed breakdowns of MMA, UFC, and playoff predictions.
• Throughout, the show delivers news with a blue-collar, veteran-first-responder lens: skeptical of authority, self-deprecating, and always ready with the next wisecrack.

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Perfect for listeners wanting the real scoop, a dose of inside law enforcement thinking, and zero sugarcoating.

Transcript

[Tom]

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[Mike]

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[Tom]

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[Tom]

So you guys can't crash our super chat party like you guys can crash. It'll be a gong. But thanks Tristan and thanks Murphy for the super chats. Let's roll right into it. We have the topic of the evening which I thought was crazy. Everything happens over the weekend. We weren't in the ability to talk about it on emergency broadcast. We were actually on an airplane when it came out. But Ukraine drone attacks on Russia. This apparently is in response to Russia bombing Ukraine over and over again. Getting a little bit of a Israel Palestine vibe going on where everybody's pointing fingers at each other and we bombed you because you bombed us. Mike's over there around with his mic so he probably won't be back for another 15 minutes.

[Mike]

That's tr.

[Tom]

You're. You're muted. Just so you know, at least four people killed in Russia as Ukraine launches retaliatory. Retal. Retaliatory. There's reports. Oh, so now I've got. You're going through your laptop. All right, so there's reports of at least three, but maybe four. But they're conflicting as how many people died? Wave of almost 600 drones launched across 14 regions as Moscow's deadly three day attack on Ukraine. Last week, one of Ukraine's largest ever drone strikes against Russia regions including Moscow has killed at least four people and wounded a dozen more. The Russians Authority have said 600 drones. Dude, that's insane.

[Mike]

Hold on, why? Why? It sent me something.

[Tom]

Hold on is why are coming on?

[Mike]

I don't think he's coming on but he sent me this. He said previously we had a three day ceasefire for Russia's Victoria day. We offered to extend this ceasefire and definitely the. The officers rejected. Russia launched 600 long range drones and 60 missiles primarily towards KE resulting in 30 civilian fatalities. Normally we don't mess with Moscow too much. We'll typically harass the airport in order to divert their air defense forces away from the regions we want to hit. This time we sent 500 drones towards Moscow, targeting their main refinery at the airport. Result of 4 civilian fatalities and an unknown damage to the refinery. Moscow is very socially insulated from the rest of the country world. So this is more of a pressure tactic. See, you see this? This is what happens. Perhaps you should stop. So that was the mission that Ukraine pulled off to kind of tell Russia, look, we can hit you all the way. We can hit you.

[Tom]

So it was more of a flex than it was an attack.

[Mike]

It was a show that they have the capability of getting all the way to Moscow and blowing stuff up.

[Tom]

Man, that shit's gnarly, dude.

[Mike]

I can get that.

[Tom]

Do you remember when. Well, I got a video too. Do you remember when Israel sent the pagers into Palestine and blew them all up? Let me just get this video of. Of some wreckage here. So this is, I guess, everyday life in Moscow to the point where traffic doesn't even stop after it. Yeah. So that shit's insane. But of course, that's it. That's all the news for it. Unless you know. Unless you got connections into the open source intelligence world, which we have. Wyatt.

[Mike]

But this is a video that Wyatt sent of some of the fighting.

[Tom]

And obviously, yes, guys, we came to you live today at 12, as we are at the Shot or Shock studios or the Reveal network studios. Excuse me. Where they shoot Shot or Shock. And we are contestants against each other. Where mine and Mike's intelligence will be pitted against each other one on one.

[Mike]

Let me play this real quick.

[Tom]

Black ass. Son of a. You're wrecking my day with your.

[Canine]

That is seriously.

[Mike]

60 meters off the deck.

[Tom]

What was that?

[Mike]

Oh, every day. Imagine dealing with that every day. Gunfire in the background.

[Tom]

Who was that?

[Mike]

Why I sent that.

[Tom]

Oh, so somebody that. Why I knew.

[Mike]

Yeah. Did you. Were you listening when they were mixing that stuff over there?

[Tom]

A little bit.

[Mike]

It was bad.

[Tom]

Yeah, I heard.

[Mike]

Sardines and cottage cheese.

[Tom]

Hey, man, that's disgusting. Sorry. Can you imagine sardines and cottage cheese?

[Mike]

There was wasabi. There was. There was.

[Tom]

That's why I told you it's gonna suck for you because I'm gonna win every round. So no shots or shock for me, just constant shock and shot for Mike.

[Mike]

Yeah, but that's it.

[Tom]

That's all we got on the Ukraine. Jones strikes in Russia. I'm sure it's never gonna end as it started in what, Crimea in 2014. And it's not going to stop. But what's that? Do you. Have you ever heard the theory that Russia's in the right yes. Like, they would. They did. They are doing everything to Ukraine as we would do if, like, Canada was aggressive and, like, you know, but we've. We villainize Putin as this bad guy for so long that it's almost, like, unfathomable to think that maybe we shouldn't get in other countries politics like that.

[Mike]

Yeah. And then the previous president was in bed with the whole Ukraine.

[Tom]

And so Zelensky, that dude's got dirty money on the books everywhere.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Tom]

What's next on the. On the roster? We got sports coming up later with K9, so. Oh, my God. Dude, I've gotta. I've got to show you guys this. The transgender lawyer freak out. This is probably one of the crazier things I've ever seen in my life once I find it. All right, so here we go. This is a transgender lawyer. This is a woman to man lawyer. The liberal mental freak out is, like, textbook to somebody who would change their gender. I know we're supposed to get too crazy with that stuff here, but. Oh, well, it's our studio for now, so we'll play this. This is amazing. Stop.

[Transgender Lawyer]

Stop. Because you don't want to hear. Stop. You interrupt me one more time, you are being held in. In indirect contempt of court. And you can wipe that smirk off. I don't have a smoke on my face. Oh, yes. I do not. I am not going to tolerate this from you, sir. Yes, ma'.

[Mike]

Am.

[Transgender Lawyer]

There was a pause. There was a break. I wasn't done with my arguments, and I was not done with.

[Tom]

Sounds like you and Jimmy. You said you were done, man.

[Transgender Lawyer]

My statement. You interrupted again. Do not throw your. I did not throw. It fell off the bench. Please stop stating things that are not true, ma'.

[Mike]

Am.

[Transgender Lawyer]

Sir, you've got a ring full of witnesses. I do it. I put it down. I did. I put it down and it fell down. I did not fall. And settle them.

[Mike]

I'm not.

[Transgender Lawyer]

I'm not upset and I'm not arguing. I'm not right in the face. Ma'. Am. I'm not. What we're both saying. I am trying to make my argument. You interrupted my argument halfway through on an objection that will get every available deputy. Yes, ma', am. I'm aware it's happening. It has. I guess so. Okay. If I push that transgender attorney practicing all over the state. I don't know what you do. It's not.

[Mike]

You do.

[Transgender Lawyer]

So we are pausing this until you get the ADA request form to get help and it gets processed. So we're going to pause the hearing on jurisdiction. That's been set twice. I drove an hour and a half to have the hearing.

[Tom]

My client look at. And I want you to see this. The judge is going to put her ego aside and try and continue a fair trial. A judge has every right to go. Because of your actions. We're not doing anything. And she puts her ego aside.

[Canine]

Watch.

[Tom]

And continues to try this process.

[Transgender Lawyer]

Clients available telephonically. And we are simply not even taking testimony. Is your client available telephony? Yes, ma'. Am. Yes, ma'.

[Mike]

Am.

[Tom]

Thank you, your honor.

[Mike]

Which we would object. This is as clear as the nose on my face that this woman will not appear before this court because she

[Tom]

has a warrant or stealing.

[Transgender Lawyer]

That's not true. And you're ready, sir. Don't me throw. Shout at me. I'm not putting. No, we're stopping. Get out of my face. Sir. Get out of my face, sir. Get out of my face.

[Mike]

You should believe this.

[Tom]

Get out of my face.

[Transgender Lawyer]

Get out of my face.

[Tom]

Get out of my face. These people, my friends.

[Mike]

And you're being ugly and get out of my face.

[Tom]

Why?

[Transgender Lawyer]

Because you're in direct content of court. He shouted at me. No, you did not even say that. I was. You are indirect. I'm not punching.

[Mike]

The mouth is really wanted.

[Transgender Lawyer]

Screaming and the yelling and court that.

[Mike]

Oh, the cups are out first. That's always a bad start.

[Transgender Lawyer]

Do not hurt me. Do not hurt me. Do not.

[Mike]

Stop resisting.

[Transgender Lawyer]

I'm not resisting. Okay.

[Tom]

Put your hand behind your back.

[Mike]

Stop resisting.

[Transgender Lawyer]

You know exactly what's happening. I can't walk. I'm being thrown down. Walk that way.

[Tom]

Settle down.

[Mike]

Do not love me. Do not love me.

[Transgender Lawyer]

What are you doing?

[Mike]

What are you doing?

[Tom]

What are you doing? You good with a punch in the face right there?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Tom]

What?

[Mike]

I'd say kick him in the dick, but I don't know if we have anything. I don't know what we got there. That's a girl that became a boy.

[Tom]

Yeah. Okay, listen to this I can't breathe rhetoric.

[Transgender Lawyer]

I can't breathe.

[Tom]

Put your hands.

[Transgender Lawyer]

I cannot breathe. I can't breathe. I can't breathe.

[Tom]

I can't breathe.

[Transgender Lawyer]

I can't breathe.

[Tom]

Dude. To be fair, man, those that Those court. Those court deputies should know how to fight because they're cops, but they don't ever get action like this. Very rare. I'd say about once a year. Are you going hands on, like, somebody that's in a courthouse and you usually have 15 people there helping you?

[Transgender Lawyer]

Somebody go on iron, right? Please.

[Mike]

Now we're a female. Oh, we're back to being a female. Isn't that funny how that works?

[Tom]

No. Yeah. She said, get me a female officer now.

[Mike]

Because she's a female.

[Canine]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. Funny how that works.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You got the dick beat off you. You want a female again?

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Beautiful. The logo's hiding my beautiful face.

[Tom]

Yeah. I can't. The fat. I. I don't know.

[Mike]

Anything that's bad about that whole video is the person's page that you had it off of.

[Tom]

Who was it?

[Mike]

Arch rivals.

[Tom]

Oh, who was it?

[Mike]

Texas cop 2.0. He's a homo with that.

[Tom]

The dude eating.

[Mike]

He just watched.

[Canine]

No.

[Tom]

No relevance.

[Mike]

Pink handcuff guy. He's out of Texas. And he blocked me as well. And he sits there. That's what he does.

[Tom]

I could have cropped the video and just sent it. My bad.

[Mike]

No, it's all right. I can put some in. But that's. Yeah, that's another version of a terrible cop, but, yeah, Everybody wants to be a man until it's time, dude, I can't.

[Tom]

I can't like that.

[Mike]

Who.

[Tom]

If a judge can't say, I don't want these people in my courtroom anymore. Like, if. Who says it now? We're allowing transgender lawyers in there. Who. That's fine. But then they show the show signs of mental illness, and they're getting kicked out of the courtroom like a criminal would.

[Mike]

You should lose your bar. You should lose your light.

[Tom]

Like, well, yeah, he's obviously where she. Or whatever that thing is obviously is going to lose their ability to practice law. But that poor judge can't even hold court anymore because liberalism has affected.

[Mike]

When I was in, one of my fun, best court stories was we had a meltdown like that in court. I was sitting in the back of the courtroom. I was undercover, waiting to get a warrant signed. And the bailiffs are close to the bench, you know, to keep the judge from getting attacked. So a dude threw the whole. Man, this courtroom ass judge. And he went to hit the door. And I'm sitting in the back, like, right at the door. And the judge looked at me. He's like, don't get him. And I was like, whack. I just grabbed him before he freaking dumped him right at the courtroom door, right before he walked out. I had no idea he thought he was out. Yeah, he's good. They were over at the front. I was like, oh, yeah, this might want to shine in court here. Like, I knew the judge because I had too many warrants getting signed. So he Was like, grab him.

[Tom]

You gotta play. You gotta play part in the politics. You want those warrants, sign, you grab him.

[Mike]

Yeah. Ass judge. And he started to walk out, and I was like, here it comes. But, yeah, I mean, if we can't. If we can't have a civilized court hearing, that's where. That's the foundation of our nation in criminal justice is you get your day in court. You get to go to court, you get to have your time to speak. If you can't get through the basics of a court hearing, we've lost it. And, you know, there's. There's other attorneys I've seen go nuts, but I think this one takes the cake. And it has. Ironically, it's a confused citizen about what gender they are, and they can't control themselves.

[Tom]

I mean, like, we've seen the memes about. Your lawyer comes in. I've been depoed by a lawyer that I look at the state, and the state's like, like, good. Like, so you didn't read to your client his Miranda rights? And I'm like, is this. Am I being punked? Like. And the state was like, just go with it. I'm like, do you want me to explain to you why I didn't read him in Miranda rights? And he's like, yes, please. I'm like, because I had probable calls to make the arrest. I didn't want to talk to him. I was like, you do know, as a lawyer. I don't have to read him as a lawyer now. He came with the meme. Get up. He had baggy pants. He was. He had a big nose.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Tom]

He was harvestein. Yeah. Gold.

[Mike]

Gold Bergenstein. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tom]

But he just a lawyer that gets too liberal in their head. Just can't play the game. Like, obviously. Who were we talking to yesterday? Somebody was saying that, you know, these guys. They do. I've been on the other side of the. Of the tracks criminally once when I

[Mike]

was a young man. Really?

[Tom]

Yeah, that story when I was in the army. And I've sat there and I've watched. I. I had my defense attorney, my private defense attorney, and he knew all the state. And he's like, you know, he kind of eluded, like, yeah, we all. We all go out and have wings on Friday nights. And I'm like, the. And it's like, it's a system. They play golf together, they work together, they cross sides. It's a job until you get one that's just so unhinged. That to me, if you're A lawyer and you think crime should be set free, you're nuts. I get it. If you're a good defense attorney and you're playing the game, and if. If the state and the courts can't figure it out, and you just give what you have and go proof beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't think so. I could live with. I can. I can look somebody in the eye that can do that. They can play the game and play it well. But to. To sit there and die on a hill thinking that criminals should be let out same.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's where it gets to, like when they'd start defending pedophiles and. And really bad cases, because we just had one in our town where the guy, he got convicted molesting his grandchildren. And now it looks like one of the jurors lied on their application or something. And I was thinking, can you imagine these family have to go through this trial again? But the most concerning thing I think about lawyers is what you talked about, is they're all buddies. The prosecutor's friends with the defense. And that plays into your sentence.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And some lawyers are in there nasty, and they just go. And don't think just like us. When we get a person nasty at the window with a ticket to get a ticket. Right. They get. They get more. Your attorney goes in there like an. You're more likely a fat worst sentence from the judge. Or think about his client right now. Or her client or his client. Like we just said, that judge is gonna be like, this person's client. Like, give them 300 years. Who cares? So it's like you're directly affecting your client, but on the same side, when they're buddies and they're all golfing together and stuff, it's like, hey, Bob, you. I got a DUI coming in.

[Canine]

You know, I.

[Mike]

We give him a little break. You know, it's like it all goes. And who's the ones that can't do that? The cops. We're always in the middle of. We can't act like that. Everybody around us acts like that. The judge can act like that. The prosecutor can act like that. Defense attorney can act like that. Everybody else can do that, but we can't.

[Tom]

Well, there's a show. I know. Have you ever watched that show the League? No, bro. It's an FX show. It's probably one of the funnier shows ever made on television up there with Eastbound and Down. They're all childhood friends, and two of them, ones that works for the state, the other one's a Defense attorney. And this is the. I know you've at least seen this scene. Hold on. So they're best childhood friends, but this was like the trailer they used for the show.

[Actor (from The League)]

How are we? How you doing today, man?

[Mike]

Everything good? Yeah.

[Actor (from The League)]

Mr. Gomez, I represent the state, and we have what I believe is enough evidence to put you away for 10 years.

[Mike]

No, no, no, no.

[Actor (from The League)]

Ernie's an innocent man, so he's not going away for any time. Ernie, did you do it? Of course not.

[Tom]

There you go.

[Actor (from The League)]

Really? Really. Ernie, do you remember waving at the surveillance cameras of all three liquor stores? We've got the videotape. Hi, mom, it's me, Ernesto. Your client's going away for 10 years. Unless. Unless we swap first round picks. Sidebar. What's sidebar? You can't take my number one pick. You give me the number one pick, I'm gonna give you my sixth pick in the draft. Okay. And I'm gonna give your client seven years. I'm gonna knock it down from 10 to 7 for the number one pick. This man should be able to walk out the door today, go on a crime spree that would make Robert Blake come in his pants. And then you should be able to go home and have sex with your wife and then be given a parade in his honor. He's kidding.

[Tom]

Shh.

[Actor (from The League)]

Respect the sidebar, sir. Thank you. Listen to me. I'm doing you a favor here, okay? This is pro bono work for you. Listen, all I want to say to you is this. I gotta do two of these cases a year. This man, guilty or innocent, can do no more in six years for third round picks. It's not gonna happen, okay? It's first round pick. What do you wanna do? He goes for five years. We swap first rounds.

[Tom]

That.

[Actor (from The League)]

You're doing business with me, sir. Excuse me, sir. Excuse me. What was that? You're going away for five years and I just lost Adrian Peterson.

[Tom]

I can't believe you've never seen that show. No, they all play fantasy football, but either way. Yeah, that's how. That's a exaggerated look at lawyers. But it is kind of like that

[Mike]

100 because I got being in the. A lot of search warrants, a lot of wire tabs, a lot of cases where you spent time in depots, depositions. They absolutely go in the deposition before the camera rolls, and they're, ah, same thing. And I'm gonna put this guy away. We're gonna give him a break. Let's talk to ducks first. And they do the deposition and then they go back to that same. Yeah. Mr. Two minutes earlier it was this that everybody's saying that. And then it's, Mr. Doke, you read Miranda, right? And you're like, but it's a sham. Unfortunately. It's a sham.

[Tom]

Yeah. I will say that. The going into those depots and seeing this and how it works and how everybody else treats it like a job. You will walk out of there going, I need to start treating this like, like it can't be a lifestyle where I put people away and I get upset when they, they get set free.

[Mike]

The only ones that really made me mad, mad were any, like, obviously I had to punch me in the face and only get like 30 days. That one pissed me off. He got a little bit of justice afterwards. But. And then it's just the ugly cases, like, where you're going, like, you know, this guy's got 50 grams of fentanyl. That's the hot topic on the news. We're killing everybody. And, and it's dying. And then the state finds a reason to drop it or not go forward. And that's when you get into trying to get into why and how you'll never be able to. I think there's a lot of, a lot of backdoor world.

[Tom]

All right, well, the next topic of discussion that's been hitting the news all weekend is the damn watch release that has caused massive civil unrest and malls across America. And we're going to look at how law enforcement decided to handle it in one scene where this is primarily youth, not the, not the street takeovers that we've been seeing at night. This is actually like people showing up to get a watch, like, much like the new release of a pair of shoes or Black Friday type thing. But this is how the cops decided to handle it in one area of the country. They just decided to douse all of the kids in pepper spray, which I'm for.

[Mike]

You are?

[Tom]

Yes. That dude was like, I'm leaving. I'm out. I want nothing to do with this. They opened up the line and said, if you want to leave, leave now. And everybody opted to stay there for that new watch with pepper spray. So that's essentially it in a nutshell. Homeboy just said, I'll get my watch next weekend. I'm not staying here with you. But are you okay with mass pepper spraying of a crowd?

[Mike]

Like, they're all told to leave, Right?

[Tom]

Yeah, the echo is real here. I don't know what type of watch it was, but was some huge, big watch that came out. So another thing I wanted to touch on is this cop being indicted for doing his job. And I say that all the time, but we're gonna let you guys watch this video of this cop who made an arrest. Looks like a trespasser in a. In a McDonald's and they decide to go limp, which is something they always do. And this is the body cam. This is former Wichita police Wichita Falls officer indicted after body cam footage released in McDonald's. Body cam footage from a 2025 arrest at McDonald's in Wichita Falls, Texas paying attention after a former cop was indicted in connection to the incident involving 21 year old Victoria Lang. According to reports, the video shows Lang being pinned to the ground, grabbed by the neck and dragged across the parking lot during the arrest. The officer involved has since been indicted. With critics calling the force use used unnecessary and excessive. And this is what happens when grown ass adults go limp and make you carry them. It's not on the officer if you get a little scraped up in the process. That's my opinion. But here we go.

[Actor (from The League)]

And didn't happen in Wichita Falls.

[Canine]

Ma', am,

[Mike]

Do you have ID on you?

[Canine]

Hello?

[Mike]

Do you have any idea on you? I'm talking to you.

[Canine]

How am I not being nice?

[Mike]

Will you tell her she's bored,

[Transgender Lawyer]

Please?

[Mike]

Just tell her she's barred.

[Actor (from The League)]

Do you want to bar her?

[Mike]

I need your id.

[Tom]

I don't have one.

[Mike]

Can you stop if I'm more. Can I real quick? Yeah, here's. And let I know that JoJo's in the chat, the expert on a lot of this stuff. I say that seriously in order to be trespassed. Like the property rep I'm pretty sure has to say, like you got to go. And he asked her twice tell her she's barred. And the lady doesn't say it. The lady doesn't say yeah, I want to trespass or barred. And then the second time she says it, she kind of beats around the bush. The only person that can be a victim of trespassing is the business. So when I watched this, I kind of said to my head it the force is not excessive. Nothing she did was excessive. Nothing I saw was a problem as far as what he does. I've seen a video but if they're going with the thing they went on me, which was they want to do the rest. All the force from that point forward is not good. If maybe they're saying I haven't seen more that the property rep actually said I want that person trespass to leave. If they don't.

[Tom]

Oh, I'm like out. Bye, have fun with this person in your bathroom.

[Mike]

Say, tell her she. I don't know where they use the word barred. It would be trespass. But twice he says tell her she's barred. Neither time does that property rep respond with you're barred or I want her. Because the second time she goes, well, I don't really know. I don't have on this. She doesn't say, yes, that's my two cents.

[Tom]

Yeah, I definitely would.

[Mike]

Any detention and any idea is illegal. Like unless the person says, I want that person trespassed. A totally. The cop can't do it. It has to be the property representative.

[Tom]

And this is where it gets hairy too. Because if, especially if the property representative is being really wishy washy about it, if this person goes to walk by you and says, I'm out and doesn't refuse to stay, you obviously can make trespass arrest based on the state you're in and based off whether or not the property owner told them to leave and if they'll do a statement saying they did. But it's always good to get that warm and fuzzy. Have them tell you, as the cop, I ain going nowhere that, that you're good all day. But this is one of those things where if she were to walk right by him and go, I'm leaving. I. I don't know if I would put hands on her. Hey, she's leaving. You want her to go on your trespass? Just to let you know, this is my beat. If I catch you here, you're going to jail.

[Mike]

Yes. And that's where he can't even, that's where it even gets into. Like when there's a blanket trespass on a business you still like, that's another thing. And I'm gonna. Since she's not here to talk about. She's the one told me this and, and makes it make sense. There's a blanket taw on a business like Wawa, and you go up to Wawa at 1am, there's a guy in the back of Walla sleeping. You still as a cop can't just go, all right, you're trespass, you're arrested. You still have to say, hey, you gotta leave. Yeah, he gets up and leaves. There's no detention, there's no ID grabbed. He gets to get up and leave. And cops don't understand that. I think that's gonna end up being a huge problem. But in this case, I'm stuck on the fact that I never heard the property representative say, yes, I. You need to leave.

[Tom]

I thought I just missed it, but no, not yet.

[Actor (from The League)]

Then I don't even know who you are.

[Mike]

How can I bar somebody that I don't know who they are?

[Tom]

I'm about to take you to jail

[Mike]

for interference with public duties if you don't identify yourself. What?

[Tom]

Let's take it there.

[Mike]

I don't even know who you are.

[Tom]

What's your name?

[Mike]

Yes. 3. What's your name and date of birth?

[Tom]

What is your name and your date of birth?

[Transgender Lawyer]

No.

[Tom]

No. What?

[Mike]

No,

[Tom]

I don't do it enough on. No, no, no.

[Mike]

Do not start reaching in there.

[Tom]

I can already tell you this cop does not know what he's doing based off the his physical abilities to play someone in handcuffs.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Tom]

Don't start resisting.

[Transgender Lawyer]

My gadget.

[Mike]

It.

[Tom]

Keep playing it. It's just stuff like this.

[Mike]

Yeah. He just drags her out. I. I think the only thing I've seen there that could be excessive is if they're saying the arrest is no good. That's all I can think of. Everything else, he doesn't do anything.

[Tom]

Yeah, because if it is, then it is technically. If the rest is no good, then anything you're doing is excessive force. So.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Tom]

I can see that. I would think they would do more of a civil rights violation of the arrest in general, because I would imagine that that lawsuit would be way higher than anything a scrape being dragged.

[Mike]

Well, this is start. He gets indicted and then from there he gets criminally charged and then you go lawsuit. After all, it all goes together like.

[Tom]

Oh, I see what you're saying. So this is a criminal charge, but this.

[Mike]

Oh, they're gonna file lawsuit. Yeah, absolutely. Which I wasn't sued in my case. It's funny,

[Tom]

we got sports with canine coming up in five minutes. We've got

[Mike]

probably gonna get busy in here shortly. I see pizza.

[Tom]

Yeah, yeah, we're. Like I said, we're ending at one. We're gonna take a quick commercial break right now and then when we get back, we'll have K9 doing some sports. We'll talk Diaz Perry and then McGregor signing against Holloway. That's a big one. So we'll be right back.

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[Tom]

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[Mike]

Looks good here. It's not echoing.

[Tom]

So while we wait on canine. Do you want to touch on any.

[Mike]

You want to go with that? The one sheriff's office there that's acting a fool.

[Tom]

The sex scandal.

[Mike]

Yeah, we got a great sex scandal out of Aiken county sheriff's office date and county sheriff's office says employees have been. Four employees have been terminated after internal investigation of misconduct involving alleged policy violations, alcohol and inappropriate conduct. Not from cops. According to the officials. The investigations found that an on duty patrol sergeant allegedly engaged in sexual activity with a dispatcher. I bet she was a hog. And another deputy.

[Tom]

That's good right?

[Mike]

He's definitely a hog. Even. Even the dude from the show in the background got that. He's marina so he's real deal. He knows about the hogs. Multiple off duty employees also went out drinking in Aiken county establishment. One employee was under and was allowed to drink underage because she was with the police and she at one point she drank an excessive amount of alcohol. But being a good sergeant, he followed her Home from the bar while she drove.

[Tom]

Is that all that happened?

[Mike]

Yeah, this all came out and they were. Sergeant was terminated. The deputy was terminated, and two dispatchers, Hannah and Taylor, your typical white girls. They definitely. One of them is a hog. I can see her picture on the screen. They were terminated after the. The misconduct was founded by the South Carolina Criminal Justice Academy. They stated that maintaining public trust and accountability within the department is top priority. So don't bang the dispatchers and don't take young girls out drinking, and you won't lose your job.

[Tom]

So I've. I told this story a couple times, but when I was a brand new in the academy, the training sergeant goes, hey, guys, we're taking a field trip to dispatch, right? So we go. We go there for an hour, like. Like a training block, maybe three or four hours before lunch, and we're done. And we're leaving single file like we're children. Because it's a police academy. And he goes, man, because it was. My police academy is all men. He goes, men, do you know why I took you there? And I was like. Everybody was like, to see how dispatch works with law enforcement and the communications. He goes, no. So you can see who's behind those voices on the mic.

[Mike]

So you don't. Yeah, you don't lose your over a hog.

[Tom]

He's like, you need to see these women and not just hear them, because that's very important. He didn't say anything about him. He just said, I wanted you to see him and fish.

[Mike]

Once you did, I got hog fished.

[Tom]

Hog fished? Did you just make that up on the spot?

[Mike]

I did make that up. I got hog fished many, many, many years ago.

[Tom]

Hi, Mike.

[Mike]

I took a voice.

[Tom]

Meet me on the other channel, Mike.

[Mike]

When we met, it was before Instagram and Facebook. That's how old it was.

[Tom]

Shallow.

[Mike]

Hell.

[Tom]

You're, like, looking around for it.

[Mike]

She's like, hey, yeah, that's exactly what it went. And I immediately had a stomach ache and I went home and paid for the UFC fight to watch it at home instead of for free where I was. It was that bad. So. All right.

[Tom]

Are you Mike?

[Mike]

Nope. No. No, I don't. I don't even work. I don't even work at the sheriff's office.

[Tom]

Mike is. I'm. I'm Tom and I'm leaving.

[Mike]

That's a new term I just coined today. Don't get hog fished.

[Tom]

Oh, man.

[Mike]

That's when. That's when the cat. It's not just a cat. It's. It's the whole Hog shows up.

[Tom]

Yeah. So. All right. We got canine in the house.

[Canine]

I'm laughing about the hog fish thing. That's funny. Oh, that's great.

[Mike]

I love Terrible. Yeah, the voice. A lot of guys went hard. A lot of guys fought through the voice and just did it anyway and lost their home over a hog. But. That's. That's the big roster, man. That's. That's when the name is so big you can only fit one name on it.

[Tom]

Oh, that's the offense. That's the offensive line roster. The.

[Canine]

That's fine.

[Tom]

All right. The two big things we need to talk about is all MMA related. It's obviously Perry versus Diaz. Mike Perry, his. Did you guys watch it?

[Canine]

Yeah, I actually had to sign up for Netflix to watch this. This was the first pay per view by MVP Promotions, which Jake Paul is a big owner in.

[Tom]

I was wondering why he was there. That makes sense. He had his own little, like, MVP booth. Like, ah, that dude disgusts me, dude. As a human being.

[Canine]

Well, what he's trying to do is, well, he has beef with Dana White and they always have. They talk trash to each other. So pretty much what he did was he's starting his own ufc, but it's going to be on Netflix and it's gonna, you know, go up against UFC with Paramount plus. I mean, UFC had a fight night on Paramount plus at the same time as MVP had this fight on Netflix. So they're already going head to head

[Tom]

right now with this, I think. I think that kid is never going to compare to what Dana White built with the. What were the brothers names? The two. The brothers that he built USC with.

[Mike]

Oh, Steen and Berg.

[Tom]

Were they Jewish? Yeah, but they backed out. They sent. Sold it to him. But they, you know, and Dana White took the UFC through the trenches when it was making no money. Everybody was telling them to close it down, and he, like I said, took the UFC to the top. And do you think that Jake Paul, who's got money because he was on a Disney show and he was a Vine guy, is going to be able to compare intellectually with the Vince McMahon of UFC?

[Canine]

I mean, if you're looking at the ratings from that night, I mean, Netflix had a lot more people watching. Now, obviously UFC is not going to put on a crazy pay per view every weekend. So MVP and Netflix were smart to have this card on a night where Dana White's just gonna have a regular fight night, not. Not something big. So, I mean, it just depends on how it matches up that certain weekend. But I mean, if you look at it, Gina Carano, who fought Ronda Rousey, she literally got tapped out in 15 seconds. Okay. She got paid $1.5 million for this fight. So if you do the math, and I'm not that good at math, she got paid a hundred thousand dollars a second, man. I mean, 1.5. And she lost in 15 seconds.

[Mike]

You know what's crazy is if, you know, Tyler fought, he would get paid, like, for like eight seconds because Ronda Rousey would beat his ass in like eight seconds.

[Tom]

So if I ever fight Ronda Rousey, we're probably gonna have to pay her to come. I don't think it's just gonna be paying to get, but. But yeah. I mean, I don't think that longevity wise, Jake. So you're talking like, at surface level. Oh, yeah. Jake Paul put on MVP Productions the same night. First off, they had to put on the best of the best. I guarantee you they lost money that night. There's no way. The gate.

[Mike]

Yeah. Match. You don't think. There's the seat lights. Didn't pay money to get in.

[Tom]

Yeah. So, I mean, it's. It's. It that just. It would be like if we broadcasted every day here. Right? And then somebody decided once a week, once a month, to come on and be like, I'm going head to head with Anti Hero, because I've been. You know. Of course, people are probably going to pick theirs because it's. We're doing this every day. We can't make every day a pay per view. Monday through Friday, which they could if they wanted to. Just do one episode for one week. Week.

[Actor (from The League)]

Right.

[Mike]

Is there, Keen, is there any truth to the rumor I heard that you lost the Netflix. Netflix. Login in the. In the list disaster. When your roster went down, did Netflix go down with it?

[Canine]

No, I lost Prime. It's. It's partially true. I lost Prime.

[Tom]

Not.

[Canine]

Not Netflix. I never had a Netflix connection.

[Mike]

You were out, and then something happened. Something happened. Took a detour and went watch the fight.

[Canine]

Oh, that was Friday.

[Mike]

Oh, that was Friday. That was different. My bad.

[Canine]

That was Friday. We watched the first game. The Cavs and Pistons.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Canine]

And then. Yeah, she wanted to go back out. We stopped at her house, and I ended up not. I got tired.

[Mike]

You were like, Ronda Rousey. You got paid for those 15 seconds. And you. You were done after that.

[Canine]

Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

[Mike]

All right, that's good. Somebody wants to know, OKC or New York, who's going to take it all?

[Canine]

You know what, man? I, I'm one of the few people that I've talked to about this with and I, I honestly think the Knicks, I think the Knicks can win everything I do. I think the, the key factor in all of it is Carl Anthony Towns. If he keeps passing the ball the way he is playing that point forward and you know what, he's not a good on ball defender, but if he can keep getting 1112 boards a game to make up for his on ball defense, I think the Knicks could win the whole thing. I think they're going to play okc. I think it definitely will go seven. But looking back to last year, Indiana almost be okc. And I think the Knicks are probably better than Indiana's team was last year. So I like the Knicks.

[Tom]

Knicks are OKC good.

[Mike]

They're playing Cavs, right? Cavs and Knicks. And OKC is playing who?

[Canine]

Yeah. Okay. She's playing San Antonio. Their first games a night at 8:30, I think. And then I think the Knicks and Cavs start tomorrow. I'm really excited for the Knicks and Cavs matchup. You know you have Donovan Mitchell, who's from New York, his father played for the Mets. He grew up a die hard Knicks fan. He's going up against the Knicks in the garden. I think this is going to be good. Not only that, but the Knicks passed on him in the draft, drafted Frank Nikiliana who's not even in the NBA anymore and passed on the hometown hero. So I think there's gonna be some bad blood in this one. I like it.

[Mike]

We like it. Like the old days, the old Knicks rivalries. We like those things.

[Tom]

Yeah. What about, what about Connor?

[Canine]

Yeah. So they announced it pretty much at the same time as this pay per view is going on.

[Mike]

It was actually timed as Z as France Francis Nagano was walking out because Dana White and him have huge beef. So while that they he was walking out, Dana White went live and announced the UFC International Fight Week card.

[Tom]

Yeah, Instagram.

[Mike]

Yeah, he went live on like his own Instagram and like the UFC page and all that and streamed it right as they're walking out. So Connor is back.

[Canine]

Yeah. Conor McGregor versus Max Holloway. Saturday, July 11th it's actually scheduled to be a five round fight instead of three. I'm a little surprised by that. Hopefully Connor can go five. I don't know if it'll last that long. But they have fought once previously. As Tyler said. I was actually incorrect on that. But they fought in 2013. It's been a long time. McGregor won by decision in that Fight.

[Tom]

So, you know, I mean, do you think that McGregor. Mike said something about McGregor wanting it negotiated where he only has to go three rounds? Being the first, Would that be the first? Would that be the first paper. What do you call that main event with a three round?

[Canine]

I don't know if there's been any previous to this. Usually they're always five, so I'm not sure. But as of right now, it is a five round fight from what I've seen on the UFC websites. But I, I think these guys are gonna be throwing hands the whole fight. I don't think it goes the whole, the whole way anyways, but.

[Tom]

And do you think McGregor goes for he. Do you think he's going to get back in the UFC to get titles again, or do you think he's just gonna be taking money fights now?

[Canine]

I think he's just taking money fights. He's way past his prime.

[Tom]

This is a dangerous road to go down by Dana White because we watch WWE do this, where I'm not comparing the two. And I get it, and I get it. Once you're probably in your mid-30s, you're already out of your prime in that game. But it's not show business. And so while you have these big fights for big draws, you're pretty much stating that our main card, our main roster isn't being able. We have no characters anymore, we have no more. You know, they have strong Sean Strickland, but.

[Mike]

Yeah, but in this case, it's like when you bring Hulk Hogan back at 55 or Ric Flair, that you can do it once, twice, you can get, you can squeeze little more out of him. I mean, if he looks bad, that'll probably be it. I mean, if he looks real bad and, and Holloway stitches him up, I don't think you'll ever see him again. If he competes or wins, maybe you can get another headline. I mean, he's going to sell out. I mean, it's gonna be a huge take for McGregor returning. I mean, the other fight on the card, the co main event, is probably, and to me is way more important to the MMA world, which is Patty Pemblet versus Benoit St Dennis. I mean, that is a huge number five, four are number five and six in the lightweight division. That's huge. The winner probably gets the winner of Gaichi and the Poria at the, at the White House fight. So that's, that's a big fight for ufc, that one.

[Tom]

Yeah, yeah.

[Canine]

I mean, I, I agree and disagree a little bit with that, Mike, because I just feel like, Conor McGregor is so much bigger than anything we've ever seen in mma. I mean, mean, I don't care if he's fighting whoever's the last guy on the roster in the ufc. I think that pay per view would get the most streams out of any of them. No matter what. Even if he gets his ass whipped against Max, which he. Which he might. I mean, no matter who he fights,

[Mike]

you have to keep them. So if you watch the fight that we did, the previous card we talked about, you know, every guy on the card was washed. The two middleweight guys that fought that 155, there was that black dude from France that stopped the other guy. Those two dudes look like legit fighters. Like, they look. The rest of the car was pretty weak with competition. They were old. So you have to be careful, you know. Yeah, you can live on McGregor's name, but, you know, Ric Flair was wrestling into his seven, you know, 60s, and it was like, yeah, you're not going to beat Shawn Michael. Like, you have to be a little careful with that. You know, using McGregor for views when it says, well, where. The UFC were actually a competition arena, not, you know, a WWE arena. But, I mean, he's going to sell out. He could probably. You know, even if he does get beat, he could probably do one more big one. But then, yeah, he can't.

[Tom]

You can't keep losing because look at. You think Nate Diaz is going to get paid the next.

[Mike]

He.

[Tom]

Nate Diaz in that ring went, I'm gonna get some of him. I'm gonna get some of him. Like, we get it, man. You're about. You're about.

[Mike]

The thing about him is he got. He didn't get knocked out either, though. He got a cut that.

[Tom]

Yeah, technically, TK was that. That's actually what a TKO is.

[Mike]

But he's not. Yes.

[Canine]

He got paid a half a million for that fight, too, for two.

[Tom]

That's it.

[Canine]

Yeah, Nate Diaz got half.

[Tom]

I thought he was getting $10 million or some like that.

[Canine]

No, the. Nate Diaz ended up getting 500. Now, this isn't including sponsorships or maybe, like, extra bonuses they get for selling the fight, stuff like that. This is just their payouts. But 500.

[Tom]

I watched it, and I remember. I remember thinking, yeah, dude, he is going to get his head split on the right side, and he's going to bleed. And they were going to call it just like the. His last fight in the ufc, same thing happened. Was it round two? Thanks.

[Canine]

I can't.

[Transgender Lawyer]

He's got.

[Tom]

He's got wrong with his face.

[Mike]

Yeah, he gets cut too many times.

[Canine]

Yeah, well, if you look at the first fight of the pay per view, obviously it wasn't that big of a. A fight, but to me, it was Junior Dos Santos. This guy's a former heavyweight champion, UFC

[Mike]

knocked in the next.

[Canine]

I mean, yeah, he's. He's 42, 43 years old. I wanted to see what he's got. I mean, I used to watch him as a kid. He only made 80k. He got knocked the hell out, dude, for 80k, bro. So it's like.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Tom]

All right, Anything else going on the sports world before we wrap it up?

[Canine]

Well, tonight we're going to break it down on counterculture sports, 7pm Eastern on the counterculture YouTube. We're going to talk the MVP card. We got NFL schedule release that just dropped, so we're gonna be picking our games we want to go to, and then the Western Conference and Eastern Conference Finals, NBA.

[Tom]

All right, tonight, 7 o', clock, Counterculture Inc. Sports on the Counterculture Inc. Network. Canine will be there with Sipo and

[Canine]

Red and Rhino, too.

[Tom]

We got another one.

[Canine]

Yeah, we got another one. I don't know. I'm trying to build your own little

[Tom]

empire of 1099 work.

[Canine]

Not necessarily that. I'm trying to make it more of like an around the horn. I don't know if you ever watched the show around the Horn back in the day, but I kind of want to be more of a host and have more of the host and more of the, like just kind of random opinions and. And them kind of argue it. And I'll be like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're wrong. Almost.

[Tom]

I don't know.

[Canine]

I'm kind of. The views have dropped a little bit. I'm trying to maybe try something different, see what happens with it.

[Tom]

Do what you got to do. That's perfect, man.

[Canine]

Yeah.

[Tom]

When. When exactly signs show pivot, pivot.

[Canine]

And that's what I'm doing. I'm not. I'm not sitting in the heat, baby. I'm getting out the oven. We. We trying to make some moves.

[Tom]

All right, man, we appreciate it. We'll see you tonight.

[Canine]

Yes, sir.

[Tom]

All right, guys, we're wrap it up. It was a quick hour. Everybody that joined us around the top of the hour. You probably did not get the memo that we were starting at 12 today, but we're starting. We started at 12 because we were here at Reveal Studios. We are contestants on Shock or Shock. Is it.

[Mike]

It's shot or shocked.

[Canine]

Yeah.

[Tom]

And Mike's gonna be getting shot and shocked a lot.

[Mike]

You guys are gonna see how stupid this dude really is.

[Tom]

I can't wait.

[Mike]

I can't wait.

[Tom]

So we'll see you guys. Counterculturing sports tonight with. With canine. But we'll see you guys tomorrow. Oh, we won't. Justin's hosting the anti hero broadcast going back to 1:00pm Eastern Standard Time. So don't forget, subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. Every day. 1pm except for today. We'll be on YouTube Justin Session tomorrow. Go show him some love. Go give him some. We'll see you guys Wednesday, Sav.