What The US ARMY Will Look Like in 2026 (08/11/2026)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Antihero Broadcast

Episode: What The US ARMY Will Look Like in 2026
Date: August 12, 2026
Hosts: The Antihero Podcast (primarily A & B, with guest C—"Donut")
Target Audience: Veterans, first responders, blue collar Americans
Theme: A veteran-driven, no-holds-barred commentary and analysis of current changes and challenges in the U.S. Army as it heads into 2026, reflected through a blue-collar, anti-mainstream-media lens.

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Overview

This episode dives deep into what the U.S. Army is poised to look like in 2026: policy shifts, recruiting hurdles, fitness standards, and cultural changes. The hosts, bringing prior service and law enforcement backgrounds, critique recruitment and retention, debate "standards," new fitness regimes, and break down recent controversial military and law enforcement events. They also draw comparisons between military and policing cultures and introduce community topics. Later, the crew shifts to a lively discussion on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) with guest "Donut" and closes with reflections, lighter banter, and “message of the week.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. State of the U.S. Army (2023–2026): Recruitment and Standards

• Recruitment Numbers:

  • 2023: 50,000 active duty recruits
  • 2024: 55,000 (barely hit the goal with 55,300)
  • Delayed Entry Program: 11,000 shifted to 2025 (making 61,000 for 2025)
  • Insight: Despite public reluctance, numbers are up—reflects broader societal divides on military service, especially around the Iran conflict.
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• Future Soldier Preparatory Course:

  • Created to pipeline candidates who were previously ineligible (overweight, academic underperformance, etc.) into eligibility.
  • Raises question: Are we solving or masking broader health and student aptitude issues in youth?
  • “If thousands of recruits require remedial academic or physical preparation ... are we solving the recruiting crisis or just masking a larger problem?” – A [07:50]

• Recruiting Reforms:

  • Processes streamlined, paperwork reduced, and patience of new recruits considered a challenge.
  • “Nobody's got patience anymore. If a kid wants to join the Army at noon, if it's not done by 12:30, he's like, ‘I'm out, I'm going to work at Chick-Fil-A.’” – B [07:03]

• Parallel with Police Recruiting:

  • Both military and police have lowered the bar for entry/retention, changing the dynamic of discipline and obedience among new generations of service members and officers.
  • “These new cops today are absolutely insane. They just question everything, talk back ... That's not how this works.” – B [09:15]

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2. Changes in Fitness and Body Composition Standards

• Abolishing the Old Tape Test:

  • Army now measures waist circumference at the belly button—seen as a necessary modernization for fairness (more accurate with muscular recruits) but potentially less interactive and stringent.
  • “You can literally pick jobs where you hide in the Army...they say they took the Army out of the Army.” – A [06:14]

• New Combat MOS Physical Test:

  • For 24 combat-related specialties, a more functional assessment:
    • 1-mile run, push-ups, sandbag lifts, 100m sprint, jugs carry, high crawl, rushes, and a second mile—all in 30 min.
  • Considered by hosts as a fairer reflection of combat demands.
  • “That's a better test.” – A [16:17]
  • “Can you drag your buddy? That's one of the most important things...” – B [17:21]

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3. Army Culture, Camaraderie, and New Symbols

• Jungle Tab and School:

  • Insights and jokes about the proliferation of new tabs and the "Jungle Tab."
  • Lighthearted debate on which achievements/tabs are meaningful.
  • “Apparently there's a jungle school...in order to earn your Jungle Tab, you have to do one year as S-1 or one year as a parachute rigger...” – A [28:20]

• Tradition v. Modernity – Physical Fitness Standards, Decals and Camaraderie:

  • Nostalgic discussion around old ways of “earning” certain car decals as police officers (POW magnet tradition), and current debates on what kind of personal/unit/facility stickers belong on a patrol car.
  • “In order to get this given to you...you had to earn it through work...it became like a field promotion.” – B [31:29]

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4. Societal and Structural Shifts

• Army’s Rotational Presence in Europe:
  • Recent cancellation of a 4,000 troop deployment (2nd ABCT, 1st Cav) to Europe, reducing U.S. armored Brigade Combat Teams in Europe from 4 to 3.
  • Framed as a shift in U.S. commitment and posture in NATO-adjacent regions in response to Russia—“fundamental change,” but hosts find it relatively dull. [42:58]

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5. Policing, Use of Force, and the Female Officer Shooting Breakdown

• Viral Body Cam Segment:

  • Detailed breakdown of a viral police shooting involving a female officer and a male assailant.
  • Issues tackled: justified use of force, differences for female officers, community and leadership expectations.

  • “Once somebody shows that level of aggression and grabs and threatens to kill you, your need to go [to deadly force].” – B [51:35]

    “If you are going to allow females to do this, then you need to allow me to do it...” – A [56:26]

• Debate around public perception, use-of-force policy, and gender:

  • “You don’t have to go through other tools first. When you’ve got a man in a heavy jacket, taser probably won’t work...” – B [52:57]
  • Concerns about double standards if male officers make the same decisions.

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6. Extended BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) Discussion with Guest "Donut"

• Roles of BJJ in Law Enforcement:
  • BJJ as both therapy and vital skill for control—“90% of the time when you're going hands on, your hands are already on the person...BJJ is the best [for that].” – C [81:00]
  • Wrestling and Judo also suggested, with Muay Thai for a more rounded skillset, but “You can't Muay Thai people when they're just resisting you.” – A [79:32]
  • Donut describes the humbling journey through belt ranks—“You get past that, you get the purple belt, and forget it, dude...” – B [78:04]
  • Jiu-Jitsu gyms prized as rare no-ego, supportive spaces.

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7. Anti-Mainstream Media, Community and Podcast Culture

• Constant banter about staying out-of-touch with mainstream narratives and embracing a “blue collar, veteran, antihero” perspective.

  • They see themselves as a corrective voice to establishment news for their community.
  • “We are the news entertainment broadcast for veterans, first responders and all blue collar America. People are done with this mainstream garbage down their throat.” – A [01:02]

• Lighter Segments:

  • “Message of the week”: Hilarious, bizarre DMs; future recurring bit.
  • “If you’re watching this or you hear this ... and say, ‘I heard you talk about my message,’ that means you are a true fan and we will send you a box of merch.” – A [106:05]
  • Gaming squad banter, inside jokes about “Mr. Donut”’s Jiu-Jitsu prowess, and technical thumbnail drama round out the show.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "If thousands of recruits require remedial academic or physical preparation before basic training, are we solving the recruiting crisis or masking a larger problem with America's recruiting population?" – A [07:50]
• “Nobody's got patience anymore. If kid wants to join the army at noon, if it's not done by 12:30, he's like, ‘I'm out...’ " – B [07:03]
• “The army has now allowed for the Jungle Tab to be worn army wide. Now, here's the crazy part is I had never heard of the Jungle Tab...” – A [27:51]
• “I think it [physical fitness test revamp] is pretty reasonable, I mean ... can you pick somebody up?” – B [16:18]
• “That's the problem—today's generation questions everything.” – B [09:15]
• “Once you, when you sign up for special ops, you automatically get your book deal incorporated into your contract.” – B [11:16] (satirical)
• “If you can operate gear...you walk around 25, 30 pounds at all times, can you drag your buddy? It’s really pretty self-explanatory.” – B [17:21]
• “If a guy walks up to you and says, ‘I'm gonna kill you,’ you've shown aggression, you have shown advancement ... you asked for it...” – B [51:35]
• “Do the right thing and leave the comments on...” – B [113:00]

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Highlighted/Memorable Moments

• Recruitment Churn & Fast-food Jabs:
  • Joke about enlistees looking for easy jobs and "hiding" in the Army, or bouncing to Chick-Fil-A if paperwork isn't immediate.
• Anecdotes on Tryouts and Police Standards:
  • Grueling, military-style tryouts for SWAT and the absurdity of modern lowered standards.
• Jungle Tab Parody:
  • Hosts roast the proliferation of tabs and new schools.
• BJJ Guest Segment:
  • Lighthearted but insightful exchange on the real value of BJJ for cops and military, difference between belt levels, joking about “humble pie” for new students, and gym camaraderie.
• Crazy DMs:
  • Introduction of “crazy DM of the week,” including someone asking for help confirming a random, questionably named “stolen valor” suspect.
• Thumbnail Drama:
  • A long, joking back-and-forth about podcast thumbnail graphic production and communication mishaps.

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Select Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|--------------| | Antihero intro and mission | [01:02] | | U.S. Army recruitment numbers discussion | [03:31] | | Fitness standards overhaul | [11:02-14:47]| | Combat fitness tests and real impact | [16:17] | | Law enforcement vs. army standards | [09:15-10:25]| | Police use-of-force viral video breakdown | [49:32-59:09]| | “Jungle Tab” and army symbology | [27:51-30:47]| | Car decal (POW) tradition & debates | [31:11-35:37]| | Europe deployment cancellation explanation | [42:58-44:29]| | BJJ, gym culture, and policing | [66:11-87:06]| | Crazy DMs, community engagement | [104:16-107:18]| | Open mic, gaming banter, thumbnail saga | [88:09-94:54]|

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Tone, Language, and Approach

• Direct, candid, with irreverent humor: The hosts are unfiltered, brash, and brimming with insider jokes and veteran vernacular.
• Critical of bureaucracy: Regular shots at government inefficiency, shifting standards, and administrative overreach.
• Blue-collar pride: Frequent reminders that the show is “for veterans, first responders, and blue collar Americans.”
• Supportive of tradition, skeptical of fads: Nostalgic for “the old days” but also ready to lampoon Army and law enforcement bureaucracy.
• Community-focused: They highlight listener input, Discord, Patreon, and banter with both returning listeners and guest personalities.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is a must-listen if you want to understand (with grit and humor) the shifting landscape of Army recruitment, standards, and values; how those trends track with policing; and why blue-collar, anti-mainstream perspectives matter more than ever to those who serve—or used to. The latter half brings laughter and insight to martial arts in policing, capped by recurring inside-joke drama and outrageous fan messages.

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Stay tuned for more “crazy DMs,” Army hot takes, SWAT nightmare stories, and martial arts wisdom, all with that uniquely Antihero blend of dark humor and real-world experience!

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No more potato at all coming out of any show recorded here. So without further ado, let's get into the main topic. So the main topic of today is all. All u. S Army based us being vets, we as soon as you get out of the military, it's weird. You get out of law enforcement, you can stay in touch with law enforcement very easily. You get out of the military and it's like day by day by day you're out. More out of touch, more out of touch. And I remember like when they started letting girls in, I was like is that a real thing? Like I couldn't, I had no buddies in the army anymore so I had to like you know, like letting girls in the infantry. Sorry, not girls in the, in the military. But yeah, the first topic is recruitment so. Huh.

[B]

Are you hearing any feedback in my mic?

[A]

Yeah, it's like rattly. Hold on, I'll keep going. So recruitment now we talk about, we talk about, you know, this Iran war and how everybody's all butt hurt that we're sending troops and I always say the troops are, they don't care. They're signing up to go. In fiscal year 2023, the army brought in 50,000 active duty recruits. In 2024 they brought in 55,000

[C]

which

[A]

they hit their, that was their goal for the next year was 55. They just made it by 55, 300. But they put in 11000 into the delayed entry program. That shifted over to 2025 which put them at 61, 000 people entered the US Army. That's not even the military.

[B]

That's just 2023. Let me look at one year before that. Go ahead, you keep talking.

[A]

So they say that retention or not retention, recruiting improved due to the. What's it called? Future Soldier Preparatory Course. Thousands of young people who wanted to enlist but couldn't qualify because there was either overweight or physically unprepared or couldn't achieve the necessary academic scores for the Army.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the army had to create a pipeline because in the, the old argument that we'll get into is, is how do you recruit for standards from a generation of kids that aren't meeting the standard as a whole. So obviously there's going to be kids out there that do meet and exceed the standards, but they're few and far between.

[B]

Let's see, it's the same problem with policing, it's following neck.

[A]

Yeah, it is the same exact thing. Yeah. So they fixed recruiting but how, how did they fix changed how it recruits. So the army completely revamped the recruiting, their recruiting program.

[B]

I was interested to see they actually did 50,000 in 2023 as well, which was under Biden. They did, Yeah. I was wondering if the number changed much. It Looked like it didn't stay pretty consistent. But I think a lot of that is free college. I think that's where the. Probably the biggest selling point these days is how do I get something for free? And kids figure, well, if I can suck it up for a couple years in the army, everything will be paid for.

[A]

Yeah, dude, you can go hide in the army. Dude, you can literally pick jobs where you hide in the Army. They say that they took the army out of the army, and when they say that, they said they made it easier to do the process. So I guess when I was in, all the way up until recently, there was lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of paperwork and waivers and forms, and that was halting people's progress and their recruiting. And then people apparently were just giving up and not calling the recruiter back or finding other opportunities in life. And so what the army did was they simplified it, and they're saying that that had a huge impact on being able to get people through without delay.

[B]

Yeah, nobody's got patience anymore. So if kid wants to join the army at noon, if it's not done by 12:30, he's like, it, I'm going. I'm going to work at Chick Fil. A. Like, these army guys are slow. Like, that's. That's a. That is a problem. That's a legitimate problem with today's society is you want everything right now.

[A]

It says if thousands of.

[B]

Over there.

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What'd you say?

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I'm gonna try to fix the left side there.

[A]

If thousands of recruits. Oh, I. You know how to do it. My bad, man.

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Yeah, I got it.

[A]

I learned how from Eli.

[B]

I think I watched him enough do it. So let me see if that works.

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Nope. So you go to the. You right click it, and you go to transform.

[B]

Oh, there you go. See, I don't know what I'm doing.

[A]

And then you shrink it right here. Look at that. If thousands of recruits require remedial academic or physical preparation before basic training, are we solving the recruiting crisis or masking a larger problem with America's recruiting population? Which, like you said, I mean, it could transform into any occupation. But I think law enforcement in the military is really detrimental in needing people to be up to par or above par for that job. Yeah, because, I mean, you see it everywhere. You go order a coffee, and you're like, dude, this I would have been fired 10 minutes ago for the lack of. The lack of effort and. And politeness. You know, the customer was always right. You could be right and still get in trouble, you could. There was no lines ever. Managers didn't like lines when you grew up, when you ran a cash register. And now it's like, dude, it's like, I just.

[B]

And then policing, I look at like, I, I don't know. I mean, you were 10 years ago. I know, and I'm not talking about, like, stupid, like, go jump off a cliff, but I know my sergeant told me to do something or suggested, even mildly suggested it. You did it like, right, if you're on a call and sergeant said, hey, go. Go interview that dude over there real quick. And nowadays they'll be like, why? Like, why?

[A]

You're like, why?

[B]

My first sergeant at the. And so I worked at this. When I worked at the police department, it was very soft. But when I went to the sheriff's office, the first guy I worked for was John Burdock. He had a gray, flat top, squat guy, marine. And it was like, there's no. You just, yes, sir. Like, whatever you want me to do, man. Like, off we go. It just doesn't make sense. And, and I maybe, you know, maybe there's still some kids that enjoy that, you know, rules, you know, they say kids like that are left alone a lot or whatever. Like, they, they, they yearn for, like some guidance and they don't get it, and then they just become too far gone. But these new cops today are absolutely insane. Like, insane. They just question everything, talk back. Like, just things that. I don't mean it. Like, you listen to the tyrannical sergeant. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like, hey, man, you know, you didn't search that guy's pocket. So. So what? Like, it's like, that's not how this works.

[A]

Well, I mean, there used to be a time when you failed fto. That's not a thing anymore.

[B]

Yeah, it's absolutely. Yeah, they'll recycle you 27 times and. Or somebody else will just hire you. You'll fail one agency and somebody will take you.

[A]

But yeah, that's the recruiting thing again. The, the whole point of that is to talk about how, you know, everybody doesn't want to send troops to Iran. And we're at record numbers for recruiting now. It was down around 20, 23 when you looked at it, or before that, we were at record lows, especially in the special operations forces. When you're asking people to be even more higher caliber human being than, you know, the guy signing up to do supply for four years. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But they also. Dude, they also re. They got rid of the tape test. Dude, I saw that.

[B]

Well, I did hear though, with special ops, what they did was they started including a book deal in the sign on bonus. So once you, when you sign up for special ops, you automatically get your book deal incorporated into your.

[A]

Yeah. When you're halfway through your enlistment as a special operations guy, you go ahead and they allow you to trademark your podcast name.

[B]

There it is. Yeah, I think that's, that's the step to get more guys into that field.

[A]

Yeah, they got rid of the tape test. So now what they're doing. Because what happened with the tape test would be it was this mathematical equation of them taping your entire body. Now you have an army soldier doing this. So the chances of them it up are probably pretty high. They got to measure different parts of your body and then they got to calculate it in some way and determine if you don't pass. Now they just literally, they measure the circumference of your torso at your belly button with your height. And what.

[B]

There's a lot of guys are gone in my world. A lot of cops are added out of here, buddy.

[A]

But once they do that because, because a lot of dudes, I mean, when we were in. At least when I was. I'm sure it's the same thing when you were in that dudes that were super muscular were having to be taped all the time or the bmi, the

[B]

weight number was off because they were so muscular. It didn't calculate muscle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It should be like a comment like, I'm not smart. Like, I've said this before, I have a ged. I'm not the most intelligent human, but you can like the human eye is pretty good at like eyeballing these things. Like, man, look at that guy. He's a. He's garbage. Right. Or look at that guy's in shape. I don't understand why we put so much effort into. Your average person can look at somebody and go, yep, they're. They're in physical. They're physically fit. They can do it. And they go like, I can't. I. I think a lot of times we over complicate things.

[A]

Well, they said what happens if you fail? There's a. If your first measurement, because what they're doing is it's 055. I don't know if that's inches or what, but that's their measurement. Or if you're at 055 or higher, you're not immediately enrolled in the army body composition program, a different measurement team must conduct a confirmation measurement on the same duty day. If you fail again, you're enrolled in the army body composition program and you're flagged.

[B]

What could change in the same day? What do you go sweat in the. What do you do to get your waist smaller in the same day?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's weird right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. There's no way you could like lose fat in your midsection in one day.

[B]

No.

[A]

It says the, it's non transferable too. The flag which I'm assuming means if you go to another duty station it doesn't follow you. But once you fail there's 180 day evaluation period. This part is important because during the assessment soldiers will not be separated solely for failing the standard. They can still be flagged and enrolled in it. But the army says separation actions for failure won't occur during that initial assessment period. This is all boring. You know it depends on your job in the army too dude. If you're a supply specialist or S1, I don't think the standard is going to be too high. If you're an infantry dude and you're in the body composition program.

[B]

Well I was doing some research on as well and then there was like 24 moss that have a little bit stricter standard.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. They added it again. Let me look at it real quick. It was 20 including Lem Bravo 1111 series. But there was a different level of PT test that the combat MOS has had to take. The Combat field test is a new mandatory fitness test for army soldiers serving in specific combat related roles. It is designed to be more accurate assessment of the physical demands required in the combat, aiming to improve readiness enhancing. So the events are you do a 1 mile run, go right into 30 dead stop push ups, 100 meter sprint, 16 lifts of a 40 pound sandbag onto a 65 inch platform. A 50 meter carry of two 5 gallon army water jugs wearing weighing 40 pounds. A 50 meter movement drill consisting of 25 meter high crawl, 25 meter 3 to 5 second rush and then you run right back into another mile. Oh you do your regular test that we're talking about the measurement, the regular army physical fitness test which is like deadlifts and now they have like a different program and then if you're 11 bravo or combat of 24 different moss, you do that test and then on another day you have to pass this second test and they give it a score. You have to complete, you have to complete that. What I just read to you, you have 30 minutes running clock from the second you start the first mile. So you gotta figure, you know, seven eight minute mile, you're more than halfway, 16 minutes in guaranteed. And then there's a sprint in the middle, there's a farmer's carry, there's some push ups, there's some lifting.

[A]

So that's a better test.

[B]

I think it seems pretty reasonable. I mean, I mean, you know like guys could rip push ups out that couldn't run for. You know, I had a guy that was like 5, 2, 200 pounds monster and he could do like 200 push

[A]

ups or they're good at isolated exercises and a two mile run. But when you ask them to do anything of like, what would you call exercises where you like, I mean like picking up something.

[B]

Yeah. Dummy drag. Like you know that, that, that's a different animals. Like you know, you could be strong and like I said push ups but can you pick somebody up? You know I always got, I was getting smoked because of my legs. I got somebody else posted one yesterday in the Patreon or the app said Mike's the dude standing with skinny ass legs in the street. But one thing, yeah, but one thing I've always been good at is dummy drags and being able to pick people up and carry them, which is very important for those that, that's one of the most important things I can think of.

[A]

If you can operate gear.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Operating.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You walk around 25, 30 pounds at all times, first of all. But can you drag your buddy? I mean it's really pretty self explanatory. Yeah. And pull him out. Yeah, he's up 25, 30 pounds of gear and then it's awkward movement and a lot of people never do it. You know, you're never even dragging the dummy. It's slick, right. It's got that you, you know, in SWAT you drag it for the events and stuff. It's like it's a different dead weight than a human and the joints bend differently, the arms, the legs bend differently than a dummy. Like you have to really practice that. And it should be requirement that you can do something awkward like that with that.

[A]

You got, you got essentially, I think those types of tests are the closest thing you're gonna get to some kind of combat fitness where I mean you got like I said when I was in the army they would run us up the thing that's called the, let's say called the Kula Conch or something. And we'd be just smoked after and they're like, now you gotta fight. You just got up the mountain. You're. But you know, there was a platoon in trouble and you just reached it and now you gotta fight. And all of you guys are sitting down, breathing hard. And like, I've, you know, I've. Obviously I've never been in an extended firefight, so I. That looks like it would be exhausting though. Your body probably starts shutting down. Like your whole. You're, you know. Have you ever tried to stress shoot? You know, like stress shooting will. You'll be like, damn, dude. I'm like sweating everywhere and breathing hard.

[B]

Well, you can't compensate in those PT tests for like physical. There's really no mental part of it, right? A little bit. Your brain has to push your body, but not dodging bullets. Or there's no like, hey, my buddy's femur, you know, femur snapped and he's bleeding out of his leg. I gotta get him somewhere quick. Like, I saw a joke yesterday or like, it wasn't a joke. It was like a post where chicken or boyfriend walking in the woods and they simulated like, hey, this dude has a heart attack right now. What are you gonna do? He was like 6 3, £230.

[C]

And she was.

[B]

She couldn't move him. Like literally, she's. He's dead. He's dead in the woods. Like he's dying. So that's why I think it's important in these combat MOS's, especially where you have to be able to do something like carry drag your buddy up a hill, like if you had to get him to cover, like, you need to be able to do that.

[A]

I will say this. SWAT for me was everything SWAT tryout related. Both times? 3. I tried out for SWAT 3 times before I made it. And everything was harder than the. The military for me.

[B]

It was mine too.

[A]

Mine was the PT test, the tryouts. The first one I did was Volusia County Chitwoods Agency. And it was a three day. You got to go home at the end of every night. But it was three days of hell. And like, it would just be things like they'd. They'd. Yeah. At the end of the day, you're just covered in mud. And. And then be like, all right, go home. And then you've got to come back the next day, right. In a squared away uniform and all that stuff. But your car's got to be squared away. So guess what? While your body's beat to, you're hungry, you haven't showered, now you gotta clean your car and like, I remember some dude came up to me and he was like, one of the DI's on the team. He was like, drive home in your underwear at the time. That is. You look back and you're like, this is the stupidest thing in the world. We all drove home in our boxers, in our briefs, in patrol cars. Mike.

[B]

Imagine you got in the. Had to jump out at a call. Yeah, but that's like, that's the old, that's still in that old school mentality where it's like they're gonna you up and then a dude gives you like a shortcut to like. How do you get around this?

[A]

Yeah, they want to see you problem solve. I guess maybe, I don't know, risk it.

[B]

The last thing you'd want to do is go home and be like destroyed. And now I got to clean my car. Yeah.

[A]

Because I just got dirt all over it.

[B]

Plus you're nervous like the next day you gotta what's coming next. Ours was one day, but I can tell you as much as I have, you know, issues and this and that this, watch out. Was legit. It was. I did twice. I failed it the first time as well. I quit. I want to be honest. And it was very, very difficult. You're doing an obstacle course at 4 o' clock in the afternoon after starting at like 5:45 in the morning in the blazing Florida sun. It was brutal. And you know, I tried out. And under the. I always use the asterisk. That same John Burdock I told you about earlier. It was his last year. The year I made it was his last year at the agency. And it was like his hoorah going away party SWAT tryout. And it was eight, eight tried out one minute and it was brutal. So. Yeah. And it was way harder than military. Way harder than I'd take that 13 weeks of basic training over again versus.

[A]

Because everybody sucked. It was like in the, in boot camp and basic training and then when you get to your duty station and your squads and your platoons, like you've gotta, you, you gotta blend in with 30 dudes. Right. That, that you just can't be the worst. Like SWAT is like. The second time I tried out was for Orange county and I failed the stress shoot. Like I, I did a. I flagged some or like the right side of the range when I was supposed to have it anyways. And so the next year I tried out again and dude, it. You had to do The P. The PT test was 5 pull ups, 10 push ups, 15 crunches. And a quarter mile of the 20 pound sandbag. And. And then you do that four times in 14 minutes. That is a smoker because you can sit there and do five, you could run, but you combine all that. Dude, those poles start getting hard towards the end.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we did.

[B]

We did similar. It was. We did. It added a CrossFit. So we did a regular workout. Pull up, push ups, bench dips, all that mile and a half. And then we added a CrossFit. That was pretty nasty too.

[A]

I just. Dude, I can't. Is an obstacle course part of your tryouts? It was

[B]

the. They stopped it. It was when I was on, when I made it, then they stopped doing it.

[A]

Because it's. You have to train just for the obstacle course. If I know a lot of the military guys in here know the obstacle course. But to. To do an obstacle course correctly, there's tactics so you don't waste all of your upper body strength doing it. And you have to train. And it. Dude, it's brutal on your body. And it's just a whole different form of cardio. Like an obstacle course. It's. I would say probably closer to like how BJJ smokes you your whole body in like two minutes. Like, that's that feeling of like you're starting to use. If you're not in shape, you're starting to use gross motor skills a little bit rather, because you just can't breathe. I never experienced that in the Army.

[B]

I'll be honest with you. I had. I had a horrible, like, my probably lowest moment was I was alternate on the roundup team and they pulled me in to do the obstacle course and I didn't make it. Like, it was the most brutal part of my. Probably my. My entire career on SWAT. I DNF'd the Oakhorse. I went through the. At Orange County. I went through that water part where you go under the fence.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I sucked in a big gulp of water, like, bad. And it sent me off the rails. And when I got to the rope, the Ranger crawl, my four, I've never experienced in my life. My forearms would not work. Like, I could not physically hold the rope. I couldn't.

[A]

Why were you doing that course? Were you doing Roundup? Roundup. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. I was in roundup team. And I'm embarrassed. Like, it was one. One of the lowest points where I DNF'd it and I couldn't do it. Like, I physically could not hold my weight with my forearms. I don't know. I've never experienced that before ever. And I tried going across the top, and I made it, like, one pull from the end, and I flipped upside down. And I remember falling, hitting the ground, and, like. And I'm like. I got up, and I walked back to do it again. You get three tries, and I was done, dude. I was like, I'm done. And then Lonnie Rich is screaming at me, you ain't done. I tried to do it again, dude. And I fell again. And they were like, hey, he's done. Like, it was bad, dude. It sucks.

[A]

Push your body to the absolute limit. Like, if you're the type of person that doesn't cruise at 90. And, like, people are like, I'm gonna get that last 10 out of you with some motivation. If you are giving it 110 and you're physically failing, there's nothing that someone's gonna say, do or scream that's gonna get you. There's no even time. There's not resting for five. Like, you're done for the day.

[B]

Plus, I'm terrified of it. Like, I hate it.

[A]

Your.

[B]

Your rope. The Orange county rope's not very high, so it didn't really bother me. But the one that we tried out on is stupid high. And where we practiced, Palm Bay is like a eight heights, and it was so high. So I had this aversion to the obstacle course anyway, because the first year I failed it for the tryout was the rope. The rope got me. I was, like, exhausted. I'm like, I can't get up this rope pull, and my forearms did it again. And, like, I hated that. And I wanted to do. There was that one event where, like, you can't it up. Like, you have 2 billion rounds, and you just go up, do, like, the run to the range, and you shoot all the targets. It was, like, the team event. I figured they maybe put me in for that. When they didn't, they held me for the oak horse. And I was like, this is kind of. I thought I was good. I had been. I hadn't been in the shape I am right now. I was kind of slacking, but I figured, oh, this will be no problem. And, man, I hit that water, got underneath, sucked in a bunch of that muddy ass water. And the nerves, you know, the nerves of, like, it got me, dude. I it up. The nerves of sitting there for, like, two hours waiting to go, was, like, nervous, man. Then off I went, dude, failure. Failure.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. So swat. I. Dude, when I tried out for when I made SWAT out of a what, 2, 000 man. Agency. 14 people tried out, 4 made it, 4 finished it. There wasn't even like no selects. There was just four of us at the end. I was like, that's a tough ass tryout. If four people out of 2, 000, you know, are able to pass it, I just put up, go ahead.

[B]

Not good.

[A]

I was moving on. So if you got something about good,

[B]

I was just gonna say it's. It's. I always. It's admirable to try. If guys try out, they don't make it. I still commend you because, like you said, of 2, 000 people, 14 people decided to. Agency was only, you know, a couple hundred, but less than 1% even try out. And that's a little 1% dumb. But I mean, if you even give it a go and you go out there and you don't make it, I mean, I wouldn't. It's not the end of the world.

[A]

The army has now allowed for the Jungle Tab to be worn army wide. Now, here's the crazy part is I had never heard of the Jungle Tab because I've never heard. Are you. Are you making an inappropriate joke?

[B]

No, I'm waiting for you. I'm learning about the Jungle Tab.

[A]

You're waiting for me to make an interpretation?

[B]

I'm not doing my. My head's been bothering me, dude. I got a little head cold.

[A]

The Jungle Tab.

[B]

I was just holding on.

[A]

Apparently there's a jungle school.

[B]

Oh, man. See my new hoodie? I got my.

[A]

Yeah. In order to earn your Jungle Tab, you have to do one year in S. One or one year as a parachute rigger, and you earn your Jungle Tab. Yeah, that's it. That's all you got to do.

[B]

That's one.

[A]

S1 or a parachute rigger. That's how you earn your Jungle Tab.

[B]

Are you set me up for something? This has got. This has got to be a joke, dude.

[C]

I see.

[B]

I see what you're doing here. Yeah, I see. I see where you're going.

[A]

No, I'm dead serious, though. All jokes.

[C]

Side.

[A]

Have you ever heard of Jungle Warfare School?

[B]

I have.

[A]

I've never even heard of it. And then apparently, if you pass that school, you can wear the tab in certain divisions. You can wear it in the kitchen when you're a cook.

[B]

Yeah. They used to do in Panama. There was a jungle, I think, warfare school in Panama. I didn't realize. Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Because I think they got rid of some of the stuff like path. I don't think there's Pathfinder school anymore. Is there.

[A]

There's not Pathfinder anymore.

[B]

I'm not sure. And I don't know that they still do.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I put up a poll. You have to get with John, see if he's. He's the one. I know they still have Air Assault School, which is the most elite school in. In the United States Army. Only the few warriors of the military can go to Air Assault School.

[A]

But I hated a obstacle course, so I would not do well in aerosol school because I heard that's obstacle courses and rope time.

[B]

I don't remember. Well, no, there was no obstacle course, but it was obviously tying knots. And then it was repelling that. See, that's. I'm. I'm. I'm abnormal, as everybody knows. The tower doesn't bother me. No tower doesn't bother me. Going off the tower real high doesn't b. Even forward. We had to go forward. That didn't bother me. Repelling off the helicopter and jumping off the hel never bothered me. Put me on the roof and say, put these lights up. Christmas lights up, and I'm terrified.

[A]

Austin Thean donated five bucks earlier, and he said I had a family member who got out of the army somewhat recently. He said they measure your stomach and your neck circumference. Yeah, that sounds like the.

[B]

You're finished.

[A]

Yeah, the. The old school tape test, because they measure. I think they measure your arms and everything, too.

[B]

Oh, dude. I'm good, though. But big, big bench, day to day.

[A]

But yes, you will see the jungle tab out there now and about. You know, like Ranger Tab and Special Forces and whatever the other ones are. Bag tab.

[B]

Speaking of the military, you know what I did here. Here's something. I brought this. So what I did for anybody who I thought was worthy of it was I bought this for everybody. They got a POW magnet. And you got to put it on the. The quarter back behind your cage, on your car, on the side of your car. And if.

[A]

Wait, what's this worthiness that you speak of? What. What does that mean? Like, you're. You bought it for POWs?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. This. We all had POWs, so a couple of us had these on our cars as memorialized POWs. But in order to get this given to you to. At the sheriff's office, you had to earn it through work. So like, we became like an official. It became like a field promotion. If you were part of, like, you were in the clique, you were 99er. If you were 99 or you earned your way into this. So I Would take this, and I would go to the military store in the morning mall, and I would buy, like, five of them. And a dude would get in, like, a massive foot pursuit or some crazy call, and he would make a huge drug arrest. And he was doing the right thing. We would call them to, like, the. The forefront of the. The get in the middle of the circle, and we would, like, wear them into the club, and then he would get one of these. And then because it was a cool thing to do, guys were buying them on their own. And I was like, nah. Cause we had to start evicting them off people's cars. I'm like, what the Is that on your car? I'd walk right up in the middle of a call, be like, nobody gave you this.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. It was like. It was like a real thing. Like, we couldn't. We tried making our own patches for, like, our own, like, little click. And they got real frowned upon, upon that. So I was like, well, this is an easy way. This is honoring POWs, first of all. And I was doing. I was buying them at the military store, so it was going towards a good cause. And then you earned your POW sticker to. It's gone. All that camaraderie is gone. It's died with me. But it started with my buddy Paul.

[A]

Do you believe that there should be any type of decal that's not sanctioned by the agency on a patrol car nowadays? No, but of course you're running for sheriff.

[B]

No, but let me finish, Jojo. It has to be. If it was tasteful, I wouldn't say anything. It's one of those, you know, a lot of guys put the yellow ribbon on when you were, you know, the G. W.A.T. was going on, the war and all that. Guys are putting the ribbon. Guys were putting these. As long as it's tasteful. If it's tasteful, then yes. I mean, you can't have, like, you know, something stupid on there.

[A]

And.

[B]

And that's not.

[A]

Well, you know what that means, though. You've been in the government long enough. You've been in the military, and you've been on squads. Someone's going to ruin it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So who defines tasteful? Because then a part got to come out.

[B]

So I have a whole. I have a really cool idea

[C]

for

[B]

these instances or any discipline. When I win the election, there's going to be a board that sees your case before it gets to anyone that makes a decision. So in this case, I would say, hey, Hoover got written up for having a POW sticker. On his car. They sent it to ia. I do the investigation. I look at it go, yep, he's got a POW sticker. I grabbed three dudes, independent say, should Hoover be in trouble for having a pow? No way. It's military. But okay, you're not in trouble. Off you go. Goodbye.

[A]

So it's kind of like a common sense group thing. You're using a controlled. A controlled. A controlled way to go, hey, three random people. Is this inappropriate to you or my.

[B]

My next step is maybe five. And you pick two, the agency picks two, and there's an independent. Kind of like the appeal process, but let's put it before. So that way common sense gets eliminated really quick. Like, yeah, he put a POW sticker on his fucking car. It was against policy. Hey, man, I don't know. I would probably say, fuck it, we're allowed to put those on there if I was in charge. But if not, I'd be like, hey, this is like.

[A]

Or you do common sense things like, it's got to be approved by watch command, right? You want to put a magnet or sticker on your car. Sure, if it's approved by the watchmaker. Now, if it's. The watch commander is now, like, why did you let that guy put that on his car?

[B]

And I would keep it to very basic things like that we're not going to have, you know, guys swapping gun parts out or guys doing stuff that, you know, like silly things. But like, yeah, if you want to put your unit pat. Like you want to put 82nd Airborne patch on your car because you're an 82nd Airborne, like, okay, that's, you know, that's good. You want to put American flag. If there's not everyone there, that's fine. But somebody would ruin it. They would want. Somebody would want to put like one of those multi colored skittle patches or something. And then you'd have people complaining.

[A]

I remember a lot of dudes were put in the gyms they train at. And then it became a, why are we. Why are we representing private, you know, businesses on patrol cars? So of course that went away.

[B]

You know what I would say? I'm advocating. I'm advocating for physical fitness. So that gives people more opportunity to see different gyms in the community. And then you can pick one that you want to go to because you're fat.

[A]

You know, it's crazy when blue line stickers are banned.

[B]

Well, I would ban those too, but

[A]

just because they're gay, because it doesn't exist.

[B]

We can't have fictitious things on the car. Like, brotherhood.

[A]

Run on that. You should run on that. You should. You should run on. I will ban all blue line flag stickers and magnets. And then everybody goes, oh, be like. Because it doesn't exist. And I'm bringing it back. Once I bring it back, it's all a lot to be here.

[B]

I like it. We would. Yeah. Somebody asked. It was. Who's that? Nick the gun guy. Yes, we would definitely. You could put your favorite shark decal on whatever. Any patrol car. You could advertise your shark.

[A]

It's an autism awareness campaign.

[B]

Trains and sharks. Yes, we're good with those.

[A]

Somebody asked. Somebody asked earlier. They said, do you guys have to run for SWAT PT tests? And, yeah, the answer is 100. There's going to be.

[B]

Ours was a mile and a half and under 12 with the CrossFit. And then I did one year with my watch. I think we ran eight miles during the day total throughout different evolutions. There was like two or three times over a bridge. There was a run into the gun range, which was like almost two miles. And they had to carry ammo cans and shields and Halligans and swap them out and all that.

[A]

I see. I don't see what's wrong. Josh says ban. Ban hanging your blue cord in your truck for your rearview meal. I have that now. That is. That is something that I have that only other per. People will know what that is. That's not saying I was in the Army. If you had no idea what the army was, you would have no idea what that is.

[B]

I think Jimmy had his there, too. I don't have mine there, but I believe I have a flag in my closet that was flown in, I think the US Embassy in Egypt that my uncle brought back. And I have my blue cord in my closet on that

[A]

original blue cord, too.

[B]

Dude, that's mine, too. That's my original. It's in there. So my dog tags, the chain my dad gave me before he died, and then the American flag are all in my closet on the. Together.

[A]

Pride says you're defacing the flag with your lines. I think he meant the blue lines. Yeah. All right. Pride, have you ever been arrested? What happened to Ryan the commie Marine? Today's Tuesday. He comes on Thursdays.

[B]

Yeah, I'll call you after the show. I'll call you after the show. Jerry, I had the. You called and I had the dog groomer here and still here.

[A]

Oh, I didn't see. That was. Jerry, I don't have my glasses.

[B]

Yeah, it's the 509th? Yeah, the 509th is. That's where I was at. Still there. I was Alpha Company, first of the 509.

[A]

Were you. Was there a Pizza Hut there when you were there before? Polk, Louisiana dude, they had just built

[B]

Walmart when I was. I was there in 96, so I've

[A]

only been there twice. And I. The only place I know is the px. When you first get there where you can grab anything you need, like, but it's a px, it's not fun. And then they had the big Pizza Hut where like you were. And it was right next to where all of everybody was mobile. So there'd be like 500 trucks staged.

[B]

I don't remember pizza. I remember there was a Burger King

[A]

on post and dudes be walking. Like you'd go, you'd be sitting at the trucks like all night long, all night long. I don't know why I can't remember. And you'd send one dude to get like 15 pizzas and he'd bring it back.

[B]

You guys were at a whole different part though, the box and everything where you guys went in and out, the P Ha and all that. The P High was like on the north end of the base. We came and went.

[A]

Our.

[B]

Our company was at the very south gate, which sucked because we ran tower to tower every day. It was always four miles because we were at the very end, the south end of the base. But you guys were at a complete. Completely different part. We had a bird king down there and then obviously the one road in and out. What a strange place Louisiana was. Open containers everywhere. You could drink anywhere. You could buy alcohol at the drive through and drive around with it. It was a bizarre place.

[A]

November agrees. Don't put a stripe. Colors on a flag. Interesting. You don't think dispatchers deserve yellow? The don't forget about me colors. Security's got gray. Oh, that's prisons, Fire, prison red. Prisons are green. Sorry, Corrections is.

[B]

Corrections is green.

[A]

Yeah, Security has gray. They have their own color. Starbucks has, you know, light green and Target has light red.

[C]

You get.

[A]

Anybody can have a stripe on this, on the flag. I remember them.

[B]

They were getting back from Bosnia. When I got there, there was a lot of. There was a lot of problems.

[A]

So I went to JRTC twice. The first time I didn't. One of the times I did. I just can't remember it was the first or second one. I want to say it was the second one. We jumped into it, but I mean we didn't bring. We flew there each Time we didn't drive any vehicles there. We flew there and then like I did, we jump in from Fort Bragg. Maybe that's what we did imagine.

[B]

I don't know why you would land and then usually it was a jump in because we used to be ready for you guys when you guys would jump in.

[A]

That's right. That's what it was. I think on the second one I would. One of the ones I didn't. I might have been on a. I might have drove down. There was a bunch of. They took a whole element that drove trucks down.

[B]

It was a probably the coolest job ever in history of the military. Like I enjoyed OP4 and that's part of why I didn't realist. It was like, I can't imagine being on the other side of this miserable place. And it was so fun and I had the job lined up. But it, it was probably the coolest job you could have is OP4. It was really legit.

[A]

He said lots of offing yourself.

[B]

There was. It was bad when they got back. When the second ACR got back, they were gone. There was a lot of problems with. Wow.

[A]

I think he's talking about like killing yourself in the field. So that way you go home.

[B]

Oh yeah. Why I would care. Well, there was that too. I would carry two cards. I would carry a KIA card and a return. Return of duty card. So I knew if I was like it was too soon, I would rather return. And what I'm talking about is we wore Miles gear and if you got shot, your gear went off in his loud beep. You had to go up to an OC who was like in charge, like a, like a referee and you would pull out a card and he would unopen the little envelope and it would say what your injuries were. So I would keep like a good one in my right pocket and a bad one in my left pocket. So if I wanted to go home, it'd be killed in action. They just sent you over to the corner. They called on the radio and they came and picked you up. And if you wanted to stay out there, I pulled the other one out and was like, oh, you have a grazing wound to your left arm. Fix yourself. And you'd pull out your gauze and your little arm thing and okay, you're good. They give you like a two minute head start, send you back out and then you were good to go. We had all the tricks. We cheated.

[A]

Last topic for The army is US army reducing some of its combat presence in Europe. 4,000 soldiers aren't going to Poland, but it's bigger than that. 4000 soldiers were cancelled. It was a 2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team out of 1st Cavalry Division out of Fort Hood. 2nd Arm ABCT was preparing for a nine month rotation to Europe we're talking about. The unit had already cased its colors and much of the equipment had reportedly already been shipped toward Europe and the deployment was halted in May. The Pentagon subsequently confirmed that deployment was canceled, reducing the number of armed brigade combat teams in Europe from 4 to 3. I don't know anything about sending an entire brigade to Europe. I. I've never heard of that, but apparently we do. The United States became increasingly concerned with that Russia could threaten NATO's eastern members, particularly Poland and the Baltic states. Instead of permanently station another armored brigade there, the army began continuously rotating armored brigades from the United States into Eastern Europe. Okay, so that. So they're constantly sending a brigade. Okay, but they canceled that. So I guess that's pretty fundamental. That's pretty boring. We're running out of time anyway, so we're gonna say, well, first off, man, we got to read some sponsors, man.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[A]

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[B]

Hit me.

[A]

I just. I can't see anything. I need a producer.

[B]

Well, they say that it's easier to look at the. They're labeled with the name. I tried to look for the logo and I couldn't find it. But when I see the name, I can find it.

[A]

The meetup September 25th through 27th. If you want to go hit us up in any of the platforms. We'll get you the information of where we're staying exactly. But that's going to be a good time. If you want more information on the meetup, you can go to our Discord. Discord is completely free. All the boys in there every single night hanging out, streaming sporting events, streaming games off. Sometimes people branch off into separate conversations when they're boring the out of the whole group. But two nerds want to talk guns. It's a great time. And if you want to know more about us and get to know more about me and Mike Patreon's where to

[B]

Go join the Patreon multi tiered levels in there for different. Different unlocking of content. But that's the place that you get us dm. If you have something you need to talk to us directly. That's the easiest way to get a hold of us. You'll see pictures of my new dog in there. And Tyler posts stories in there, we post videos, we keep. We do some live stuff there in there. And then we have the next level, which is the Anti Hero app. You go to antiherap.com and you sign up to be part of the 99. That's the OGs, the. The meetup people. That's where we talk about all the logistics of how we're going to get together. And all the shows are in there, all the websites are in there, access to everything in there. You can post again. I posted. We have some thumbnail drama in there. We got my dog in there. So the Anti Hero app is like our own social media platform. Please consider joining and being part of the exclusive 99.

[A]

Yeah, I did a live in there. You were on the thumbnail, but you weren't there.

[B]

I was not there.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

There was a thumbnail, though.

[A]

There was a thumbnail. That goes to show you, you can make a thumbnail if you really need to.

[B]

We, we. We got some thumbnail. We could talk thumbnail drama here. In a minute, right?

[A]

Yeah, in a minute.

[B]

Good.

[A]

I don't have any reflections. Do you have any reflections?

[B]

Let me talk about yesterday. We had. Oh, no, we had the meltdown yesterday. Nothing really. We got Dom coming Friday. That's a reflection or foresight.

[A]

Do we have a producer for that yet, by chance?

[B]

Yes, we'll work on it. We'll get somebody. Yeah, we'll pick it up. I'm picking Eli up on the way over from the school. I already told him to meet me out the window. He's gonna jump, but we'll make it happen so we Got Dom coming. Reflections. That's about it. Yesterday was a quick show.

[A]

Really crazy on social media.

[B]

No, the WNBA stuff is still going. I, I did see that freedom. Ena's freedom was officially accepted right now as far as being eligible for the draft. So he is eligible for the WNBA draft as we. Justin's offering to maybe come Friday. He will be in town Friday for the show. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

[A]

He did say he wanted to meet with Dom.

[B]

All pictures must be seated if you're taking pictures with Dom. That's part of the, part of the rules. But yeah, if you can make it, that'd be great.

[A]

Viral. Real. Let's do this. Viral reel of the day. We need it. We need to try to continue to do that. I'm going to share the screen now. This is an old video but someone sent it in and they were like, I, have you ever covered this? I said yes. And they were like, well, can you please, I want to hear your and Mike's thoughts on this. So I was like, okay, I'll play it again. I don't care. So this is a body worn camera of what looks like a homeless gross bum in an army shirt that he probably never served in and a female officer. And he decides to just start testing her physically. I don't know if he's mentally ill or if this is suicide by cop, but she ends up shooting him. But this is the altercation. Step back. I'm gonna your ass up. You better step back. Right.

[B]

I said get the out of here now.

[C]

Step back. Right. I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight this too.

[B]

This fight. If you come any closer.

[A]

Did he just say what I thought he said?

[B]

He did say that.

[A]

Dropped a hard R. So for you guys listening, she's backing up, pistol drawn. He's walking towards her aggressively.

[B]

And he's already hit her. He's already like grabbed her and tried.

[A]

Yeah, I already put his hands on her.

[B]

Physically hit her.

[C]

Get up.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

I'm shoot you.

[B]

I'm going to shoot you.

[A]

Dude, shoot.

[B]

Get off me.

[A]

Right through him. Dude, get up. Another one. Right through him. He's still standing.

[B]

Shots fired.

[A]

Shots fired. Man, that is nuts. Because when your brain is separated from your body, like when they ain't working together, your body can go a long time before it starts shutting down. Yeah.

[C]

From your location in front, lower level, suspect down.

[A]

Did he go to his spot to die like a dog?

[B]

Yeah, I think he went back to his cardboard.

[A]

Do not move, not move. Do not move. Hey, you better. Oh, so Much to break down here, so much to break down now. There's, to me, there's the legal side of it, every right to shoot this man. 100 in my belief system, she had every right to shoot this man. And she should be at work the next day if she wanted to. Getting deeper into subjects of maybe having more skills to use more size on your body. I don't know if you want to get into that at all, Mike, or if you just want to call it like it is, is a good shoot.

[B]

I, I mean it's absolutely justified use of force. I, I even, I know where you're going in, you know, smaller female, male, even you and I, I know it's going to be a lot more debated and all that, but once somebody shows that level of aggression and grabs and threatens to kill you, you're need to go. And I don't even know if you have a need. There is no need. Your, your level of force escalates. If guy walks up to you and says, you, dude, I'm gonna run away. You, I gotta warrant, I'm gonna, you're not gonna take me to jail. Passively turned. Yeah, you can't shoot. But when a guy looks you dead in the face like he did to her and said, I'm going to kill you, you have shown aggression. You have shown advancement. You tried to grab her and fight with her as we're watching on the replay, and then she pulls her gun. You, you asked for it. I don't, you don't have to go through. A lot of people are confused. The fact that you have to go through all those other tools first and you don't, you don't, you, you, you have a man that's in a jacket, it's a heavy jacket. The taser is probably 0% chance of working. You don't have to go hands on and risk a ground fight where you can be incapacitated, have your skull bashed in and then your gun taken away. I have zero problems with the way this unfolded and I have zero problems with her shooting them.

[A]

So I can agree with you. If I had a daughter who wouldn't listen to me and wanted to become a cop, or I had a female that in my family, I would be like, well, then she's gonna have to shoot this guy. That being said, you're a sheriff, you're 6 foot to 230 pound jack. Dude shoots this guy, you got a problem with it?

[B]

I, I would have to say the same thing. I just said you're not required to do those things, would society probably want him to? Maybe. But you are not. Remember, in use of force, you're not required. There's no steps. You don't start at the bottom and work your way up. You can be a deadly force immediately. It would be a more of a conversation. But if the, if the same exact thing happened and that guy is that. Do we have to tell that guy, all right, man, good luck, go ahead and try to take him down. Hopefully you don't hit your head on that cross the pillar right there. Hopefully you land on top. Now, if this guy didn't threaten to kill him, if this guy didn't try to grab him, this guy's just saying, I'm not leaving, I'm all that. Yeah, you have to go into the use of force and try to do a takedown. Try or try to do a taser. I agree there's some things you must try. But when you got a guy that dead stares you in the face, hands in his pockets, then grabs you and tells you he's going to kill you and advances on you, the level goes to the very top, in my opinion.

[A]

I think it's size. I think it skyrockets to the top. When he calls over the N word, I'm like, man, somebody calls you the N word with a hard R, they're going to kill you.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, and look at the. We're re watching. He is advanced, she is retreating. He is advancing. He's not stopping. You do not have to attempt any other tactics by, by. There's no law rule that says you have to do XYZ first. You have to use reasonable force that a reasonable person would deem necessary for the situation. I believe everybody, even you, you and I don't agree all the time with these, but you and I have pretty solid on this one that you do not have to attempt it. You know, God tried to grab you already. Guy tried to do whatever and he told you he's going to kill you multiple times. You pulled a gun, you told him to stop. I don't think there is, there's, there's anything wrong with it. Now this one, though, if you compare it to the one Dominic just did with the Aurora, Colorado one, that one, the guy just got indicted. It's, it's very similar when you look at that one in this one, but

[A]

I think I just want everybody.

[B]

Yeah, the female factor is going to play into this one a little bit.

[A]

I feel like you can't control a grand jury and you can't control your Peers, your peers being sorry, the, the community that you serve, you can't control all of them. But what I, what I would expect from a chief when this happens is that he would back me in the sense that I'm a 6 foot 2, 206, 30 pound, Jack Lean SWAT dude. And I made this same call. I would be like, chief, if you're gonna, you, you're gonna allow females to do this, then you need to allow me to do it. I would have, I would expect a blanket backing. The, this criteria was met. I can't, I'm not in my deputy or I'm not in my police officer's head, deputy's heads. I'm not in his head. He made the call. The criteria was met. In my eyes, it's a good shoot. I stand behind him. And then you're like, in your head, you're like, I probably wouldn't have done that.

[B]

But yeah. And that's, that's a very mature, important thing to, to say. What you, the last thing you said was, it doesn't matter if you would have done it. You can't, you can't fry one of your guys because you wouldn't have done what he did. And I can tell you in this, this one here, the local sheriff didn't like it and he made a comment in front of a group of people that it didn't look good. That's a very dangerous statement from the sheriff to say doesn't look good. Use of force never looks good. Your pits don't look good. When the car rolls over 73 times and somebody gets ejected, law enforcement in general doesn't look good. This isn't a beauty pageant. This is ugly, you know, this is ugly, ugly business. So just because it doesn't look good, the one in Colorado, slightly different, where he's like squared up, wanting to fight, but he doesn't like say, I'm gonna kill you. And it's just a, I don't know, it's a little different. I, I know the female thing does play into this and I don't think she has to go hands on. When you have a very stoic, very serious faced man advancing in a very eerie way, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'd rather have a guy like bouncing around, kind of like, come on, dog, let's go. Let me get like. That is like a little less aggressive and more like show, right?

[A]

Yeah. It makes it like almost like it's a human being you're dealing with.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

There's emotion, like they're pissed. Like you're gonna tell me I can't be here. Like, I'll. Yeah, yeah. You're not gonna tell me, dog. Like, as opposed to this guy's like a turn. He's like a Michael Myers right now. Like he's just coming at you, Jason

[B]

Voorhees walking at you. No matter what happens, you're gonna have to put a machete through my skull. And that to me is a different, that gives me a different feeling than a dude running his mouth in the middle of the street at 2 o' clock in the afternoon going, come on, what's up, man? What's up? And it's like, man, all right, buddy. Like, I don't get the same feeling in my.

[A]

That's a Taser Canada all day

[B]

take down. But this guy attempts to grab in a manner, in my opinion, like he's trying to get to her gun or trying to get control of her. And then we're watching it again and then it's just that very eerie.

[A]

I stand behind my argument too. Just like the Walmart parking lot thing. I stand behind my argument that it, it's really credible to me if you brandish your firearm and somebody continues to walk at you. That to me is like, that is like very telling of their intentions. Like they, they're gonna hurt you.

[B]

Yeah. And, and you're right, the body language and manner to me makes more difference than in this case where it's like he's on cruise control. Like, I feel like if she doesn't shoot him, she is going to be dead. Like he's going to get a hold of her and kill her. Like I have that feeling from the very instant that they start back and forth.

[A]

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[A]

All right, let's bring him in.

[B]

Bring it.

[A]

Ready?

[B]

Yep. There he is. Oh.

[C]

Oh, sorry. Sorry. I was naked. My bad. It caught me off guard. Caught me off guard. I'm sorry.

[A]

So I recognize you from YouTube, sir.

[B]

Yeah. You play games and I play games.

[C]

Probably one of the best gamers out there to ever do it.

[B]

But we'll.

[C]

It's neither here nor there.

[A]

Well, I heard that you wanted to. You wanted to touch upon. What is that?

[C]

Super bad.

[A]

Yeah. The fat kid from super bad.

[C]

Fat kid from super bad. Yeah. This dude. Oh, my God. Like, all right, I'll. I'll eat out. Like, I love Jiu Jitsu.

[B]

I love it.

[C]

I love putting on pajamas, getting sweaty with other men on wrestling mats. Something about it, I don't know, does not. A little while it sounds okay. I get it from the outside looking in it. It's kind of gay. But, you know, it is what it is. But there, you know, he made a pretty, Pretty, pretty big statement recently that he would annihilate anybody. And then so I was like, you know, I'm a fan of Jiu Jitsu. I've been doing it a while. I kind of, like, feel that way sometimes. And then I got to looking into it, and I'm like, he's a white belt.

[A]

Oh, he's over there talking on. On. On. Not even podcasts, on, like, national syndicated TV shows. And he's a white boat.

[B]

A lot of humbleness, you know, that's the hardest belt. That's the hardest belt to earn.

[C]

It is. I'll give that. I'll give that to. It is the hardest belt to earn because you gotta actually show up.

[A]

Yeah. Is that the take on it? Is that you gotta come back?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And a lot of, like, your first day as a white belt, man, you're the dummy or the crash test dummy or the chokey. You're.

[C]

It's rough, especially for. Especially for those guys out there that are. That are. Let me just. I'm gonna move over a little bit so I'm more centered for you guys, especially for those guys out there that are like, you know, the big dick on the street that think that they see red and can just. Anybody up Just because they are who they are. And then they walk in there and they get humbled by a 115 pound purple belt that'll just choke their brains off.

[B]

It does math for that. Does math in his free time.

[C]

Dude. One of my. One of my good friends and instructors is. He works at a bank. He's a. Yeah, he's a loan officer. We call him Reggie because he's just a regular red. You know, regular guy. Dude. Savage when it comes to Jiu Jitsu. But yeah, you. Jay. But yeah, dude. He's a fat kid from Superbad. Seth, dude. Timo. Timu. Seth Rogen thinks he's just the. Of the walk with Jiu Jitsu. He's got three stripes on his white belt. Like, get the out of here, dude.

[A]

I did. When we broke it down, I said there was video of him doing his takedown, but it did look like it could have been like his first. Of course, they were private classes in a private dojo, which to me, I mean, I get it. Maybe if you're a celebrity, right? If you're a celebrity, when you take BJJ lessons privately, I just think you lose. I would imagine it's like anything you lose so much from the sport and the culture, doing it by yourself, one on one. But if you're a celebrity, maybe you can't go to a public gym.

[C]

Disagree. I disagree. Look at, look at, look at freaking Tom Hardy.

[A]

Does he do them privately?

[C]

He does know, like, he's in gyms, like, he's going to tournaments. He's winning tournaments. He's teaching classes. Look at the guy from Married With Children. What's his name?

[A]

His son or the main.

[C]

No, the dog. The dad. The dad.

[A]

He does Jiu Jitsu.

[C]

He's a black belt.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah, he's a black belt.

[B]

Al Bundy's a black Bundy.

[C]

Al Bundy's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu.

[B]

I know. He was like the high school superstar with four touchdowns.

[C]

Yeah, no, he's a black belt. So is. I'm blanking on his name. Boondock Saints, but Boondock Saints.

[A]

Which one? The guy that was in Walking Dead?

[C]

Nope, the other one.

[A]

He was in the movie, the recent movie that came out. Nefarious. He's really Irish. Like, like extremely, like Irish. True. No, I can't remember something. It's Pat something. He's a black.

[C]

He's a black belt. Yeah. Yeah. So, like. Yeah, so, yeah, just because you get. Get some fame, like, hey, that's cool. Like, I get it. That doesn't mean that. Yeah, Patrick o'. Flannery.

[B]

But even, like, these guys, like your MMA fighters, like, Sean Strickland trains in, like, South Florida, regular gym. He doesn't go to, like, an exception exclusive, you know, so these guys. But I imagine there's some people that couldn't, like, Kanye west could not, like, go to, like, a regular gym. It's not possible.

[C]

I think that. Sorry.

[B]

No, I'm just saying there's certain people I don't think could, but your average normal celebrity, I think could and should.

[C]

Yeah. And I mean, I think there's a. A period where you find a gym and like, yeah, there'd be some hype about it, and then eventually it would. It would get over. You get over it, Matt. Mr. Skeptical. I'm a plaid belt. You're a liar. I think, yeah, there'd be some time, like, I'm sure, like, whenever Tom Hardy started going to the gym, everybody's like, oh, dude, Tom Hardy. Oh, like, that's badass. Like, yeah, like, I would be that way. It's Tom Hardy. I'd be that way with the fat kid from Superbad.

[B]

Like, dude, oh, dude, he's not fat anymore.

[C]

No, but he specifically made mention he's up here.

[A]

He's fat up here.

[C]

Yeah, he. He mentioned he's like, oh, I'm not the fat kid from. You know.

[A]

Yeah. Sometimes I think maybe. Mike, are you always fat up here in your head? Are you always thinking you're fat?

[B]

Like, dude, I can barely fit through the door.

[A]

No, but see, that's why when you seriously say I'm yoked, I'm like, no, he's saying that for a reason. Maybe fat Mike is saying that I'm yoked. Look at me.

[B]

I mean, I don't ever. I mean, I body this more. This formula, whatever it's called dysphoria, whatever the. Whatever that condition, I always think I look like and I don't look good. So it's like.

[A]

And you're married to your wife, who always lets you know how awesome you are and.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What did I say this morning? What did I do this morning? Oh, I have to do a static hold. And she was like, you don't even lift it. I'm like, no, you just hold it. She's like. She's like. It was like 365. I had to do a 10 second statical. She's like, that was a fast 10 second. Like, I'm like, all right, dude. Like, you get under this, then you

[C]

don't even lift It.

[B]

Yeah, it was like. I did two. It was 285 for 10, and then it was three singles at 315, and then it was static. Hold 365 for 10 seconds. And it was shaking. And there, you know. Com. The comedy peanut gallery. Oh, your arms were barely shaking. The whole floor was moving. I'm like, all right, guys. Like, yeah, appreciate it.

[A]

Love you too.

[C]

Speaking of comedy, that be tough. Speaking of comedy, I almost. I almost just left you guys hanging because I found out Theo Vaughn's in my area. He's one of my favorite comedians. Yeah. I was like, oh. My wife's like, hey, Theo Vaughn said this place over here. And I'm like, I would have went, what's he doing? I have no. I. Honestly, the town he's in is like a town of 500 people. He must be passing through and happen to stop to get gas, because there's no other reason to be there. Yeah.

[A]

How does your wife know in real time where he's at, bro?

[C]

How do wife know anything? Facebook.

[A]

Oh, that's true.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Somebody took. Not the picture.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, going back to the private dojo BJJ thing, I think that's probably something. Like, I think Jonah Hill is probably mentally ill or has some severe social issues. I shouldn't say mentally ill. He's probably, like, a mixed with insecure, mixed with rich kid mixed with fat kid. Like, he's probably just the worst of all the. The things that maybe a martial art would break down and break out of you and teach you some. But he's doing it.

[B]

Sorry, you're good.

[C]

And then add in, like, don't get me wrong, I remember being a white belt, a senior white belt, and you're coming into your jiu jitsu, and you're actually, like, getting things in the gym, and, like, you're catching people and stuff, and you're like, dude, I'm. I'm a shark on the land.

[A]

Yeah, dude, Right now.

[C]

I remember that. Like, I remember being there. Like, I'm wiped out again.

[A]

Call me white belt again.

[C]

Yeah, I, like, pull up your tag. Like, you see those stripes on there, bud? Around. Find out. But. But at the same time, it's like, dude, calm down. You're a. Like, you're a white belt. I. I do that now. Like, I'm a purple belt, dude. I got two straps on a purple belt. Like, so I'm like, I. Sometimes I'm like, I'm a purple belt, bro.

[B]

Like, yeah.

[A]

Is that kind of like the feeling we got when Peach was talking about, like, bragging and everything. It's like, all right, calm down, Mr. 10 viewer 10 view show guy.

[B]

All right, yeah, just next time you. Peach gets like that, just ask him what his hit percentage is in gunfights and see what he tells you. It's shaped. It's shaped very similar to that donut.

[C]

A big, big zero.

[B]

Yeah, it's tough, man. Three thousand dollar gun, man.

[C]

But yeah, dude, like. Like, I see it like I do myself. Like, I'm a purple. Like, dude, like, halfway through my purple, but I'd probably further if, you know, the whole back thing, but whatever. And then I'm like. At the same time, I'm like, I feel good because I'll roll with, like, lower belts and other dudes that aren't technically as good as I am. And then I roll with, like, my. My instructor and a couple of the brown belts and a. You know, and I'm like, dude, I suck. I'm terrible. I should just not do this anymore.

[B]

It's funny how that, like, you can tell that, like, as a white belt, and then you go like your blue belt every now and then. You really kind of. You can get an advantage on them here and there. You get past that, you get the purple belt and forget it, dude. It just gets bad from there. Like, a purple belt is like the guy that can constructively teach you why he's choking you. He's like, this is why you ended up here. And he starts doing it. He's like, next time, don't put your hand. That's like a really cool belt. I think purple is right there where brown belts are miserable, obviously. And then black belt again, I want to deal with them. But the purple belts, I've always noticed, are like that just like the blue belt is like the chip on the shoulder. Like, I'm the blue belt now. I'm just. Yeah, but you always get to a purple belt. And I always found the best roles were with those guys because they were literally in real time as they're choking the. You know, I'm going unconscious. They're like, this is why this happened, sir. Then they'll explain it to you. They kind of loosen up, give you a chance to fix it, and then do it again to you when you mess it up again. Like, that purple belt is a really good area of jiu jitsu.

[C]

Yeah, everybody says that.

[A]

Go ahead.

[C]

Everybody says. Everybody says that purple belt is the best belt. I don't know yet because I've not had them all yet, so. But I can Say that I have had a tremendous amount of fun as a purple belt. Learn, like, because, like, purple belts where you start to really kind of refine jiu jitsu. Like you're. You've kind of. You kind of have the knowledge that you need, and then you start really learning how to detail it out. Like, you're starting to learn. Like, I can do an arm bar now. I can do, like, you start learning how to do a really good arm bar where your pressure is. Right.

[A]

Purple or blue? What's higher? Purple, purple, white. And then is it brown?

[B]

Like I said, the purples. I've learned the most from purple. Like, the purple belts that I've. I've always. When you're doing the rotation and you end up with a purple belt, you know, like a blue belt might you up still because they're just so excited to be a blue belt, they're still like learning those moves, but they know them decent, but they don't know when to like, gently place them on you and not like, go full. A purple belt will slowly show you. Like, hey, man, this is why you're getting ready to get choked. And here comes. And this is it. And then you're like, all right, stop, move. Like, I've always had the best roles, I think with purple belts. And you get the brown, they're just. They're so experienced. It's like. And then black belt, like, forget it. You don't even want to be. That's horrible.

[A]

What do you do if you. What. What would a young aspiring mixed martial artist do after he's gotten the basics and. And he's starting to work his way up the belt structure in. In Brazilian Jiu jitsu. But he needed to get some kind of striking in. What's a martial arts that you guys would suggest?

[B]

Muay Thai?

[C]

Muay Thai for mixed martial arts.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Muay Thai and judo.

[B]

Yeah, judo.

[C]

Those are the three. Yeah, those are the three. I would pair together for a well rounded mixed martial art. Brazilian Jiu jitsu, judo, and Muay Thai. And I'm a big proponent of, like, there's people out there that say, like, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is not the end all be all for cops. Now you. It is. I think it is like 100. Like, I don't like. Yeah, you got wrestling. Wrestling school. You've got judo. You can throw, but it like wrestling gives you a good jiu jitsu background.

[A]

You can't Muay Thai people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

When they're resisting you, you can't just be like, unconscious kick People.

[B]

But there's a time that it's important to know. Like that's why the combination is very important I think because there is a place for strikes in law enforcement where you're at a point where you know, you gotta, you might have to elbow somebody across the face. Like you might have, you got to do certain things or like a shoulder blow or something. Like, you know, like there's things. And kicking is very underrated in law enforcement. You, you kick somebody's front leg out from underneath them. Oh yeah, right way. There's nothing they can do and it doesn't even look that bad.

[C]

I used to do a little ankle pick kick whenever I trained, when I like trained martial or mixed martial arts. That just kicks the leg right from under and they just fall flat on the ground. Yeah, but like with jiu jitsu and policing, like, hey, you guys, both veteran police and allegedly a donut was somehow, you know, there's talks 90 of the times when you're going hands on, your hands are already on the person because you're grabbing them, you're under arrest. And then they start resisting. So then you're already hands on. So then there's not there. That takes away a lot of the boxing. Like people like, oh, you boxing? Or this takedowns. Like if I'm already like hands on and I've already grabbed this guy's arm, put it behind his back, you're under arrest. And then he starts resisting, I'm already behind him. Then it's a bear wrap and take to the ground. Then you're on the ground. What's the best sport you can do? That's ground based. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

[B]

Yeah, I, I can tell you from experience, like we were taught the knee spikes and all. I broke so many people's ribs like resisting, fighting for drugs and all that. And I think back and it's like with just some basic Jiu Jitsu, I'd never, It would have been so much easier because no ER trip, no issue, no use of force report have been very simple to peel their arms and they, you know, they're not resisting, but they're fighting. They're not bringing their arms from underneath them. They're rolling around. And we were taught back then, you knee spike, you punch, you kit. Like it was just, it's not wrong, I guess. I mean they're resisting. But man, if I could go back in time, that would be something. I would have started as a young cop would have been just for the convenience of not going to the er and not having to deal with use of force reports and all that. Because really, if you're doing Jiu jitsu right, there's very few times you're going to need to do a use of enforce report. I mean, 100. There's not much to it other than control. And being the ultimate goal of law enforcement is to get somebody handcuffed. Unless you knock them unconscious like we talked about, kicking them, punching them, striking them, or you render them very incapacitated due to broken bones, they're really not going to stop fighting until you hurt them really bad. Yeah, they get extremely tired. But Jiu Jitsu allows you to cover that without really having to hurt them at all. So I think if I could go back in time, I would have started Jiu Jitsu when I first started long law enforcement. But I didn't know what it was then.

[A]

Hey, I gotta, I gotta break you guys from your nerd fest. Jay from Life Raft says Donut don't even have spines. You stolen valor.

[B]

They can't even own a pistol if

[A]

you don't know donut. Mr. Donut has suffered a back injury resulting in him having some surgery, which has then postponed his return back to the mats. But.

[C]

Oh, it'll be there.

[A]

What happens when you're part of a gym? Do you just pause it like, hey, I'm hurt?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I, I'm very fortunate that we're. We're kind of a smaller gym. The one that I go to, we're all pretty close. Like, all really good friends. Like, I talk to the guys every day. Like, literally, like, these are some of my best friends that I have. My, like, my instructors, everything. Like, I'm an instructor there. I run the kids class, Ran the kids class before I got hurt.

[B]

I had to pass it off to,

[C]

to somebody else because I was not able to go teach. So, yeah, it's just like they know. Like they're all in on what I'm going through, so they know. So it's just like. And then this is my second injury. Like, I blew my shoulder out a couple of years ago, so it's just part of it. Come back and then get back to the mats and back to learning.

[B]

Yeah, it's always a. It's. I mean, that's one thing I can say is it's always a good atmosphere. There's no egos. I mean, I'm sure there's bad gyms just like everything else, but. Oh, yeah, the ones I've been to and the one locally is one of the nicest Group of people you're ever going to meet, they're. Everybody's there for a common goal. It's not about hurting people, competition. It's just. It becomes part of a really good, like I said, group of people. There's guys I've in, you know, just, just that atmosphere. It's a good place for mental health, good place for friendship and all that stuff. It's. There's really not a doubt. There's no downside to it. Honestly. No, it's really not the best. I can't think of anything that's wrong with going to a jiu jitsu gym.

[C]

Best place for mental health. Dude, that is my therapy. That is where I go. I've had a bad week at work. I've had a bad day at work. I got Jiu jitsu at the end of the day, dude, I'm going.

[A]

Everyone's dunking on you guys in the comments.

[C]

Yeah, well, they, they can dunk all

[B]

they want because they get their ass whooped too. So it's like, I get it. That's what I'm saying. Behind that screen, from behind that screen. They're tough guys, right? Everybody's a tough guy on that, the Internet. But yeah, that's how it usually is. But I can tell you something, I'm mentally ill anyway, so I'd like, I like to suffer. I was like, I was walking the dogs yesterday. My wife and there's a thing called the impossible mile. I don't know if you guys have seen it. You do burpee to a hop for one whole lap. You do, yeah. Lunges the next lap. You do bear crawls the next lap and then you run the final. It takes like an hour. I'm like, you know what? I want to do that.

[A]

Wait, you bear crawl a quarter mile.

[B]

You do burpee to a hop for an entire mile. Half quarter mile. Then you do lunges for an entire quarter mile. Then you have to bear. You don't have to do it all at once, but you have to finish the whole quarter mile bear crawl. Then you run it. And I watched dudes do it yesterday. It's like 40 really good shape dudes are 40, 45 minutes. But like Jiu jitsu gave me that same weird like pain and suffering. Like you go in there, you. I like no gi. Go in there and do you know, we would do like drills for like 15 minutes and it was like like eight six minute rolls in a row with like a 30 second water break between. And it just gives you that like you can't recreate that anywhere else. There's just something about. I know you know it. Like, rolling with another human over, like, that is just. There's a. There's a euphoria of, like, competition and, like, pain and suffering and meant. It's all just balled up in this one thing. And I don't know, I enjoy that, like, suffering.

[C]

And what's cool about it is, as you get better at Jiu jitsu, that goes away because you're not using as much during. Like, you're not using as much energy to do the things that you want to do. So whereas, like. Like, if you and I were to roll, like, you would be way more wore out than I am because you're doing. You're using more energy to try to control me, whereas I know exactly where to put my pressure to keep you where I want you without having to extend and to expend as much energy.

[B]

And that's where, like, as going further and learning was when you're like, somebody's on top, you have to learn to be like, okay, I'm gonna just chill here. Like, I'm not gonna go crazy. I need to, like, relax. And you get comfort. That's why I think it's important for cops is you get comfortable in that really uncomfortable position where you go, hey, this guy's on top of me right now. But I know I can get him off me. I just need a couple seconds and wait for that feeling and where he loosens up or he doesn't. He doesn't stay heavy, and then you just make your move. But you will never understand that, and you'll just die like a dead fish underneath somebody if you just try to get out, get out, get out, get out, get out. And then you're dead. Yeah, I know the British guys that run his mouth. Right. He's coming to the meetup, so we'll see what. We'll see what kind of jiu Jitsu he's got.

[A]

Tyler, is this a bit. That was the good one.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's what I gotta say to all these. Hey, September, I have a blue mat.

[B]

I'm bringing the blue. We're gonna roll it right down in the middle of the. The mat.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And we'll see who's got what.

[C]

There's already a fat kid next to me. So right as I will add a. Add a British one to it.

[B]

Yep, we'll see how it goes.

[A]

Oh, man, that was funny. As. We gotta talk before you leave. We gotta talk. This is an. Oh, this is an open mic thing. But, oh, yeah, we'll have open mic for three days. We got. We can't wait for Friday's open mic.

[C]

So I'll do it both days. I'll come on both days and do it.

[A]

The thumbnail debacle. Mike's texting me today going, what's the issue?

[B]

Screenshot. I got screenshots.

[A]

What's the confusion about? And I'm like, well, it doesn't exist.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Did you read them thoroughly? Yeah. And see the dates on them?

[B]

It said. I mean, he said it an hour

[A]

before his show started. Donut, what are you thinking, man?

[C]

You can't. I know.

[B]

My phone is always ready to go. An hour, 45 seconds, 30 minutes.

[A]

It's just all the times that people are going, I can't get a hold of Mike.

[B]

There's never. You don't have zero messages that say, you can't get a hold of Mike. There's no one in existence.

[A]

Sorry. The last one says, mike sending me short answers.

[C]

I'll give you. I'll give you a lowdown. I message him Saturday. I messaged him Saturday. And I said.

[B]

I handled that. Actually, Let me. Go ahead. Good. Let me get those messages up. Go ahead, Donut.

[C]

I messaged him Saturday, and I said, hey, I'm gonna do you. I'm gonna make a description for you for your show that all you have to do is copy and paste, put it in there so that way you're not doing just hashtags. It's gonna be better for discoverability and views. I was like, I'll get. I said, tomorrow, mind you. I messaged him Saturday, tomorrow, which would be Sunday. Tell me what your podcast is going to be about, and I'll make your thumbnail. Because I. I wanted it to do. I wanted to do it a day before because I knew I had nothing going on Sunday, and I had stuff going on Monday.

[A]

And for everybody. His. His podcast is on a Monday. Just so we can keep it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So I was like, day before your podcast, let me know what you're doing or what you're doing it on. I'll get your thumbnail. You'll have it. It'll be good to go. I'd have been 100. Fine with that. So he never, like, he messaged me back, and I asked him, like, are you cool with that? He said, yes.

[B]

Yeah, that's all it.

[C]

And then I gave him one hour

[B]

and two minutes before the show. He's like, where's my thumbnail buddy? Yeah, where's my Thumbnail buddy since sends

[C]

me the what they're talking about an hour. I met my, my kids parent, teacher. Like meet and greet. Yeah. Nope.

[B]

The job, the job never. The job never ends, man. You're on duty, 24 hour donut.

[A]

Unless you're volunteering and you don't get paid anything, then it does end at some point. If you don't know the company, you don't have to work 24 hours.

[B]

Well, the funny thing is he said, I'm gonna throw straight at Justin. He says, I gave it all to the donut. And I was like, what the has Justin got to do with like. I'm like, the donut. And then he's like, the screenshots are

[A]

amazing too, because K9 must be so busy to where he cannot reply to anything else other than yes.

[B]

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, it's like, who

[A]

am I talking to right now?

[B]

And then the description of the show was like six, five words. It was like really intriguing.

[C]

I sort of. Yeah, dude, it's like I, I just, I just wanted 24 hours to do the thumbnail. Like Sunday. I was not busy, like, and I could have done it like, not, not a hour before, bro. Not an hour before.

[B]

Yeah, well, I, I mean, I said to this to him too. I said, bro, like it's 20, 26. I said, all you gotta do is open chat GPT, push the microphone button and talk to it. And like 10 seconds later you have a thought. Like, it's not, we're not building rockets. So I was like, dude, let me just show you. Like, I, I, it's kind of like your girl needs to be picked up going across the street because there's water and you have another dude do it for you, man. It's your thumbnail, dude. Like, you should be, you should be. You should be making your own thumbnail, right? You know, you can't pick your old lady up. You can't pick your old lady up and carry across the street. Like, I'm a little questionable about you, man. So I'm like, it is your show. Like, it's your thumbnail. Like, I know what I want mine to look like. I wouldn't want, you know, I wouldn't want.

[A]

I just think he's just a victim of the not trusting chat GPT until you use it one day and you're like, it's that easy. It's that easy.

[B]

I don't know. That's not trusting. He's in that weird world of like, he's, he should be a Nerd in this stuff, but he's not. And he's just. It's a weird avenue for him. Like, I don't know, maybe it's all the thc. Like, I don't know sometimes, but I'm like, hey, man. Like, I just look at, like, my thumbnail. Like, I would want. I want it to look like. I want it to look like, you

[A]

know it in your head.

[B]

What you want when you see it, you go, that. There it is right there. Like, I want it.

[C]

Well, I thought. Like, I thought I did a pretty good one for his video section that I cut. Well, he's talking about whatever he talked about on that. It was like one of their players and, like, the heat or something.

[B]

And it's like your old lady. You're like, I had something in my head, babe, that what? That three, two and a half minutes of hell was not it. Like, it was. It was way different in my head, right? Like, that dollar menu was like, that was a stick in my head. And it turned out to be like Taco Bell. Like, that wasn't it? So it's the same with a thumbnail. It's like, I know what I wanted to see, so I. I personally wouldn't. You know, I wouldn't want anybody in my head.

[C]

That position,

[B]

so different. You were gonna smile.

[C]

I don't know how the dog got.

[B]

You weren't gonna block it. You weren't gonna block it with your hands. You know, it was gonna be nice.

[A]

So anyway, Jay Turk says, what's up?

[B]

I want to know how the. You do that desk thing. Like, how is that whole setup? Yeah, Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I run. It's a little nerdy, but I'll run you through it.

[B]

I don't want to know that much. I'm just saying.

[A]

Never mind. No, I was just asking because you're

[B]

not really a donut sitting at a desk. You're actually like. Like, I just. I. I look at that. I'm like, gaming, and I'm like, this looks like. Like I said, if I went back and told myself playing, I could change it too. Like, I'm pitfall as a kid, and you're gonna be looking at a donut playing Call of Duty. I'm like, what the. Yeah, this is crazy. Well, now you're on the couch.

[C]

I'm on the couch.

[A]

You know. You know what you're gonna have to do, Chode, is so you can tell I still am terrified to say the wrong thing is if we ever do a live event where you're there you're going to have to buy a donut costume just for your face cut into it.

[C]

I was actually thinking about that if I ever came to the studio, like, I was like, dude, how would I be able to put the donut in the studio while I'm there? Like, if I, if, you know, while I'm there. But I mean, I could do it like, like same program that I do this with. It's, it's really simple. But the, the donut face mask is kind of funny too.

[A]

Amazon donut costume.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, well, we'll. We'll try. We'll try next week for canine. Some now we'll have to say, like, hey, man, just get it in by something.

[B]

I'm gonna get him on chat. GPT. It's so simple.

[A]

But what. Here's the thing, is that he sent. Chode sent the. Or Mr. Donut sent the.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that's another thing.

[A]

The whole description for canine to copy and paste.

[B]

He didn't put it.

[A]

He didn't do that.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Yeah, I gave him a. It's a general.

[B]

I saw it with the hashtags and everything. So. Yeah, I, I, I don't know, ma'. Am.

[C]

It's just one he could use every time. So he does, he does more than just have the hashtags. I mean, it's just like, making the show look better. Like, I want to show to succeed as much as my. I want my show to succeed. Like, I want the whole network to succeed. And that's the whole reason.

[B]

Like, don't. Just don't build it like the Buffalo Bill stadium and you'll be fine.

[A]

But no, I get Peach missed dunking on him earlier.

[B]

Oh, we didn't dunk on him.

[C]

Yeah, well, I mean, it was more of a. I wouldn't say dunk.

[A]

What was it?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

The donut's gonna disappear into the. In the background. I, I don't know. No, we weren't ducking on. We were talking about how

[B]

anybody offered to play Xbox since the other night. Like, I'm. I'm sitting. I'm ready.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

No, I am, dude.

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm ready. These few guys feel like, oh, my God, it's gonna happen, and then I'm ready. Dude, Mike's a dad that's gonna show up to baseball practice this next time.

[B]

No, no, I'll be there. Listen, when I'm waiting for dad, I gotta take the BMW down tomorrow, and then I'm free tomorrow after the show Thursday. I got like, Nothing. All morning before the show, I just sit here with the dogs. Like, I'm ready, man.

[C]

What you want to aim for? You want to aim for Thursday night?

[B]

We were nine gamers using that night word, man. You gotta. You gotta remember. You gotta remember. I'm old and I. I'm honest. Like. Like, you start getting around nine, ten o', clock, I'm toast.

[C]

I'll make you do. All right. We'll play during the day because I know. I mean, I don't like. No, I ain't else doing on, dude.

[B]

I can do like Thursday after the show if you get like.

[C]

Yeah, you know, I'll do Thursday after the show.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[C]

We'll have to figure out. Because, like, it's.

[B]

I have to figure out how to. I have to connect the disc. I can't get the discord to connect to the Xbox because why do you

[A]

gotta wait till 4:00'? Clock?

[B]

So the show's over at 3?

[A]

Yeah. Are you gonna. Oh, are you gonna watch the entire open mic?

[B]

That's Thursday.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Thursday.

[B]

What?

[C]

Openbox Friday.

[A]

Oh, it is, isn't it?

[C]

There it goes. You got it.

[A]

Why you gotta wait till 4?

[B]

So I can eat. Get off the show and eat. Like, you want me to go right into playing Xbox?

[A]

Why not? I roll right into another show on Fridays.

[B]

Oh, my God. What's the difference if I get up and go right out there or I go eat and then like 3:34, I log in.

[A]

Like, wait, I can't wait to. I can't wait to see this. Will this be online? Are we gonna create an entire live stream just so Mike.

[B]

I don't know how to do it.

[A]

There's gotta be somebody else does it. There's got to be proof that Mike played.

[B]

I got Call of Duty and I got the other game ready or not.

[A]

Dylan says he's off. Let's do this.

[C]

Yeah, load up.

[B]

I'm ready. I'm getting the kill streaks.

[C]

It was a Thursday night.

[B]

Uncle Mike finally decided to get on Xbox Thursday afternoon.

[A]

It's nuts, dude.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I have a feeling you guys will be seeing a little bit more of Mr. Donut in the future. Cho, thank you so much. If you haven't figured out, it is, his name is Chode, aka Mr. Donut. But when we talk with him as friends, we like to call him Chode. So that's his. Go check him out on YouTube. You can go to. Is it Ms. What's the YouTube handle for Mr. Donut?

[C]

Mr. Donut is Mr. Donut CCG. That's Mr. Donut Counterculture Gaming. Because I am a co host of the Counterculture Gaming podcast that is live on Saturday nights at 9:00pm Eastern Standard

[B]

Time with a mail.

[A]

Now that's a good time. Even if you don't game. That's a fun one to watch, that is.

[B]

I was in there for. I want to. I was in there for a hot minute. Like he was recording three quarters of this. No, I was in there for the long haul.

[C]

And then he walked the dogs.

[B]

Yeah, you gotta walk the dogs.

[C]

But yeah, find me on YouTube.

[B]

Straight to the vet after. Good. Pump your YouTube.

[C]

Yeah, find me on. Find me on YouTube. Mr. Donut. I'll be putting out another Ready or Not video probably this week. I was gonna do it last week, but I procrastinated. I didn't do it. And then find me on Saturday nights co hosting with Fumasa and Cowboy big D at 9:00pm Eastern Standard Time. We. I don't know what we're playing this week. I think we might play Ready or Not again. We've been having some fun with that.

[A]

Yeah, dude, If. If it works. It works, dude.

[B]

Who's the recharge that couldn't throw a flashbang?

[C]

That was me. I'm the retard.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I saw a couple reels of flashbangs bouncing all over the. Everywhere but where they were supposed to go.

[C]

Yeah, expect more of that. That's all I'm gonna say.

[B]

Yeah, that's why I know I can fit right in. Because that's how I play. I'm just throwing like. I know I can do that.

[C]

Soon to be changed to Mr. Donut BJJ. Yes. September, whenever you decide to fly across the. The pond, I'm gonna show you what's up.

[B]

Oh, I can't wait.

[A]

He said jerk said he saw and you guys all missed your flashbangs.

[C]

Yeah, dude, I gotta. I'm a shout out to him. He helped me out a lot the other night. I was raging about my computer and dreaming and he lended me a hand. Hands up to that. Your hands down to that guy Jerk. It. Actually, I don't even have to do that, dude. I just. I just lay flat and then I can like you this number.

[B]

Oh my God,

[A]

I can't wait.

[B]

A campaign at against me. Here's the future sheriff.

[A]

Did you. Did you just talk to a donut about getting jerked off?

[B]

Yeah, I did, sir. That's. That would be me right there.

[A]

That actually happened.

[B]

That was me right There. How you wonder how I got here.

[A]

We gotta. We gotta cover some other topics, and then we gotta get to the message of the week.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Gonna be our new. It's a new weekly segment where me and you, through all of our dms, we will pick the craziest one of the week.

[B]

Dude, I had such a good one. I wish we knew we were doing this.

[A]

We'll save it for next week. It might try.

[B]

I got blocked and it cussed out and blocked all in one, and I couldn't get it to save.

[A]

We got to talk some Russia. Ukraine. Now, as we talked before, Ukraine bombed Russia two nights ago. So what do you think happened last night?

[B]

Peace.

[A]

No, no, that's. I know what you're doing there, and that's what we would hope for. Oh, wait. I got to do the thing with the thing. Hold on. Media assets. Boom. Transform. Oh, my Lord. There we go. All right, we're good. Russia bombed Ukraine

[B]

again.

[A]

So let me. Essentially, it's the same thing back and forth. Russia bombed Ukraine and 10 people died. But it's funny, because Zelensky states that Russia's depleted so much of their arms that they're having to use North Korean missiles, which is really big in this mystery war where they're only giving us certain pieces of information that they want us to know. You don't believe.

[B]

I wouldn't trust anything from North Korea.

[A]

No. Especially their missiles, but no. When's the last time it was going

[B]

all over the place from.

[A]

From the Korean War.

[B]

And they're so. They. They're so. They lie so much in propaganda from North Korea. I wouldn't. I don't believe anything.

[A]

But that's the news. Russia and Ukraine gonna keep it short and sweet. I'm assuming tomorrow night or tomorrow morning will be. Or tomorrow's broadcast, we'll be talking about how Ukraine bombed Russia. But it is getting put out there that more and more civilians are dying in these strikes every day. And so is this warble.

[B]

It's horrible.

[A]

Yeah. I couldn't imagine being there, but, I mean, it's 20, 26. People are living their lives. I saw once they were on a beach in Ukraine, and a drone got shot down and crashed on the beach. And, like, a bunch of people were just, like, hanging out at the beach. What would you do if a war was going on in your country or your country was involved in a war with a bordering country and it wasn't so much to where you. You had to leave your home? So it's kind of like this weird Awkward. Go about your day. Just know that there's things falling out of the sky, like missiles and drones.

[B]

Yeah, it's like. It's like playing the lottery, but you don't want to win. Yeah, like, I don't like driving down the interstate. I mean, if you think if it was Canada enough, you know, they would just be yelling. They'd be screaming at us over there. So we really don't have to worry about too much with Canada or Mexico. Canada. Oh, I'm not your buddy guy.

[A]

I'm not your buddy guy. But, yeah, that's it for that. Just want to touch upon that. I will look into whether or not Zelensky's statement is somewhat credible. I would doubt it, but that's what he's saying. Kind of trying to push the narrative that Putin is depleting all of his missiles. But the. The crazy DM of the week. I'm excited about doing this. Gotta do it again.

[B]

I can't wait for this.

[A]

Now. If they are a listener, I apologize in advance. I'm not picking on you. You have to understand a total stranger opening this dm, so gotta fix that real quick for Instagram. All right. The crazy DM of the week is this. Probably long shot. Long ass shot, that. Y' all see this? Got a local dirt bag that claims military service recently just beat the crap out of my mentally challenged son. You are all the only people I could think that has a way to confirm Tyler Merton Norman's cess corn or Tyler Norton Merton cesscorn, claiming service from 2001 to 2007. That's it. There was no messages before that.

[B]

So you have your book, do you?

[A]

I got the book of the Army.

[B]

Yeah, I got. What? What? Oh, let me go back to 2007. Let me see. It's like Santa Claus's list. You have to check it twice.

[A]

Yeah. Tyler Morton Norman sets corn. Or Tylet Norton or Pilot not man mert and says corn. Like, there's just a lot to it.

[B]

This has to be a joke. This has.

[A]

I know. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Like, well, you got to remember. You gotta remember. Like, you get that. Hey, you're. You were. Officer. Do you know my cousin Steve? He's a. He's an Idaho state trooper and Troop F. And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know each other. Like, yeah, I know. Exactly. So maybe, maybe they just assume. Everybody knows everybody's been in the military. I. I don't know. I would lean on parody on this one, but. Well, Anyway, a lot of O's in that long.

[A]

If, if you are watching this or you hear this or see this and you message me back and say, I heard you talk about my message, that means you are a true fan and we will send you a box of merch. 100 on us. I will send you a box of merch. This isn't on you at all. It's just highlighting how it's out of context and random. It is. And, and it should go to show you that maybe people get that subconscious feeling that they know you. Like they don't. Obviously they know they don't know you, but they, if they listen to you frequently when they go to start a message, it's almost like maybe they, they already know you where you don't know them. So.

[B]

But I'm excited about this. You gotta. I get cussed out all the time. I'm excited.

[A]

Just beat the crap out of my mentally challenged son just like that one.

[B]

And I was like, didn't call the police. I mean, I don't. Cops like cops police.

[A]

Tyler Merton. Norman Ceskorn or Tyler Notman. Merton cess corn.

[B]

One of the two claiming service. 0107 07.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Service. Not even the army, just service.

[B]

Service. Yeah. That's a, that's an interesting one. I'm, I'm excited about this segment.

[A]

Yeah. So that we'll do this one every Tuesday. I'll set a reminder Monday night. Like, hey, so if you see anything crazy in your dms, just screenshot it and then we can leave people out of it if we want to. And then we'll compare them and then we'll pick one for the, for the week. That's your crazy DM of the week. That actually inspired me to do the crazy DM of the week.

[B]

I get some bad ones. Dude, this is great.

[A]

Oh, and speaking of Russia, did you know there's a Marine trapped in Russia right now?

[B]

I did not.

[A]

He's. Well, I say trapped. He's a prisoner in Russia, but his health is depleting poorly and President Trump is going the extra mile to get him back, but his family says he's dying over there. I couldn't tell you why he was there, though. I couldn't find it anywhere.

[B]

Yeah, I'm surprised Trump's. He got that lady back. Basketball player. Oh, there's a new 50 scratch off album.

[A]

Say, you know, Mike is making some people nervous when the comments are turned off their social media posts. Hey, so. But they're allowed. Are they allowed to do that if they Start the post off with no comments. Can they pick and choose post?

[B]

They do. They do. They turn them on. And very few, mostly Facebook is off. Their Instagram comments are frequently left on. I don't think they're. They're not very smart, the people running it, but they, they can turn them off selectively as long as there's none whatsoever to start. But what a lot of them do is it's funny, like usually I post something on my story and. And everybody goes to that page and then they either delete the post, which they're not allowed to do, or they turn comments off. But nobody really. It's like parking or whatever. Those are dumb things. Like nobody really enforces it. But they did turn them off. I will tell you, it was after I left and I started commenting is when they decided to turn them off. And then the Vera Beach Police department followed suit right behind them. And I think it's irresponsible.

[A]

Yeah. Now if they said now if they were to turn off comments from all posts from here on out, like if they just started like they would have in order to get out of this, like to avoid situations, they would not be able to mess with the post they already posted. But they could pick a point from then on out to make posts with them because they do.

[B]

They don't. They turn them off. I mean, it's per. Per post, they can turn them off. If you go back, like there's still posts with comments on. And you know, I used to have access to the social media, so I used to post the arrest talking smack about guys that went to jail, you know, be arrested, but going forward they just turn them off. What you can't do is selectively enforce it. And then they do the limited thing, which is also in my opinion it's a violation. But I find it interesting as Vero Beach Police department limits their comments and they have an officer that all she does is post like a, you know, attempt to be a supermodel on the Internet. It's always like weird posts and weird stances and hot trying to. And what happens is, is it. They restrict any criticism, but all the comments are sexually charged towards a female officer. And I wrote the chief and the under deputy chief. I never got a response back, but I said I find it interesting that you limit the comments that citizens can make that are negative towards your agency, but you allow a female officer to be sexualized with all these nasty comments and you don't limit those and you don't stop those. So they're just Cowards, dude. Like, if you can't handle some Instagram and Facebook comments. I made that point, nobody responded. But it's like, you arrest me, I'm gonna, I hope she's grabs me. I'm gonna hope she handcuffs me, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, so you allow one of your also to be sexualized through comments and you leave those on. But I can't say, like, why are you not wearing vests? Like, why are you on public. No vest on that. I can't make that comment.

[A]

Well, could they argue that you are identifying their officers for not wearing protection? Could. I'm assuming that if this ever made a court, like, let's say like it was the state of Florida against Indian river sheriff for abusing the constitution of Florida for social media. Right, whatever. That, like you said nothing was violation. Yeah, but yeah, it's the first one. They had this hearing. Would it be argued that you could, if you can articulate reasons for deleting comments, that it's okay.

[B]

Like they, there are, there are no, there are first amendment exceptions. Like anything negative, like, and now when I say anything like vulgar, anything threatening, anything profanity, you can delete those all day.

[A]

Okay, all right.

[B]

You can't delete. I think you guys are horrible. You're not enforcing the traffic laws correctly. That's not the right. That's correct. That's criticism. That is allowed. So I can't go on there and say, I hope you all F this, F that. That you can delete it. Right. Or I can make a threat. You could investigate it. Like, hey, this guy made a threat. We're deleting it. We're going to come talk to you about why you're threatening our officers. But you can't just filter criticism. It's like the auditors. I can walk up to you and say, I think you're a pig, you're a piece of cop. You can't just punch me in the mouth and take me, me to jail because I said something you don't like. Now if I said I'm going to shoot you in the face, then yeah, that's not free speech. Like, you can, you can do something about that. So it's the same. It's no different than if you just, if you just take it into like it's a conversation. Can I say this out loud in public to you? And if it's yes, then it should be able to be commented on the Internet as well. And they hide from criticism. It's the whole, the age old tale of like if you can't. If nobody gets the message, then there is no message. Like I'm just going to pretend everything's great and some of them leave it on. But I find most agencies within minutes of me making comment and then all the Cobville people go comment. The comments get shut off and then that agency no longer ever has comments turned on again.

[A]

You're. You got balls of steel for having comments on

[B]

or just do the right thing. Like do the right thing. And I think you keep making this. I think you keep. You and Joanna both keep making this thing. Like my tick tock is becoming anything anybody ever tries to throw on. My tick tock is going to be trash now because these agencies are doing it way worse and more cringe than I ever could have been. So it's like I can't wait for somebody to bring up my tick tock and I'm gonna go look at your social media page. Like this is garbage. You guys are dancing and doing wee woo wee with all this dumb. And it's like, what is this doing? Not only is it not helping anything, you guys are spending money and time and salary to produce this garbage when I was doing it on my own time time. I'm. I'm excited for that argument.

[A]

I think you should bring it back, dude. Bring the tick tock dancing back.

[B]

There's some bad ones, dude.

[C]

It's bad.

[B]

The walkout song ones are just horrible, dude. It's horrible. And it's like you're taking the time. Like I get having fun and I get. But you know when I had fun, we were all out taking guys to jail, man. You can have fun doing that and protecting the community at the same time.

[A]

Can you have. Can you do both?

[B]

You can, but I don't think that spending money on TikTok trends and multiple takes and people getting paid you would argue. I think anybody would be like, is this what's best, dude? Now take that same group of people and go walk through a plaza and go into every business and, and and get to know everybody. Or go to the school and have your entire unit walk around the. The middle school and introduce yourself to kids and all that. Excellent use of resources, same amount of salary being used. No need to video it and show off that you're doing it. I think you could. Those things would go so much further for community engagement and community oriented policing versus filming a video of like pretending somebody's texting and like laying in their passenger seat watching them and doing that stupid. That it's. It's funny. I get it. Some of them are funny. And the one you sent was funny. The, the, the car unlocked one was very, it was, it was comedy. It was, it was good. It was, it was funny. But if you're talking about humanizing the badge and, and, and you know, engaging in the community, I challenge you to take your 10 man community affairs unit and just drop them off in a neighborhood, go to door to door and like interact with the people. Hey, you know, make sure you lock your car at night. Make sure you're doing this, hey, we're here for you. Make sure, blah, blah, blah. Go to a school to go to a business. I think that goes a lot further.

[A]

All right, that's it for the, that's it for the episode. We've got to go. But tonight on the counterculture YouTube, today's Tuesday. G Money.

[B]

G Money. Is he around?

[A]

I don't heard from him. We haven't heard from him.

[B]

He got mad, right?

[A]

Get mad at us for last time.

[B]

He, we, he sent something and we went like three days without answer him. And then he like sent like a answer them and we didn't answer them again.

[A]

So yeah, the G Money show is scheduled for tonight at 7. So I have no reason to think he won't be there, guys. So hopefully he has a thumbnail or a thumbnail without 800 words written on it. All right, we'll see you tomorrow. 1:00pm Eastern Standard Time on the Anti Hero broadcast, YouTube.

[B]

Sateen for life.