Will Trump and Hegseth Put TROOPS In Our Cities?? (Live) 09/29/2025

Summary

The Antihero Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: Will Trump and Hegseth Put TROOPS In Our Cities?? (Live)
Date: September 29, 2025
Hosts: Jimmy, Mike, Lewis
Summary By: Podcast Summarizer

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Overview: Main Theme & Purpose

This episode dives into heated political and cultural territory, focusing primarily on the increasingly blurred lines between military and police jurisdictions in US cities. Prompted by speculation that Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth might propose deploying National Guard or even active duty military into American cities, the hosts debate the legal, moral, and practical implications of such moves. The discussion also explores social disorder, open carry laws, law enforcement training, critiques of gun culture, and the state of American masculinity and community.

Throughout, The Antihero Podcast retains its signature irreverent, “cops and operators in a bar” tone: honest, unfiltered, and full of asides about social media beefs, current events, and listener interaction.

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Key Discussions & Insights

1. Opening Chatter: Technical Difficulties & Housekeeping

[01:12-03:22]

• The team starts off discussing technical problems (lost Internet—Rob O’Neill jokes).
• Quick endorsements and promo codes for sponsors (skipped in this summary).
• The new show format: Mondays as “informative/recaps/reflections/current events,” Thursdays as unstructured and “for the boys.”

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2. Social Media & Burners: Rob O’Neill & Hater Dynamics

[03:32–06:46]

• Lewis details a recent encounter with suspected burner accounts in podcast chats, attributing sock puppetry to Rob O’Neill, describing the telltale military lingo and intoxicated diatribes.
• Jimmy & Mike discuss how easy it is to connect burner accounts through technical means (IP/MAC addresses), reinforcing that seasoned military/law enforcement types can usually spot their own, even online.
• Quote [05:17, Mike]:
  “Instagram is big dicks and big mouths… you can’t hide behind that fake account and talk because it doesn’t hold merit.”

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3. Engaging with “Haters” vs. Positive Community

[11:16–15:11]

• The hosts reflect on responding to social media hate, misinformation, and accusations (such as “anti vet” claims).
• They emphasize their respect for supporters from all backgrounds and clarify that their critiques often target those spreading misinformation—especially if it becomes dangerous or toxic.
• Quote [12:51, Mike]:
  “When someone’s spreading misinformation who is a psychopath, toxic piece of garbage… at some point, I feel the obligation to let people know.”
• They also intentionally balance “calling out the bad” with uplifting stories of good policing, military, and administration.

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4. Gun Debates: Sig vs. Glock and Integrity in Promotion

[16:06–21:52]

• Responding to criticism for allegedly shilling for Sig firearms (and not mentioning known issues), Mike offers deep personal context:
  • He trained on Sig, prefers it for its hand fit, and denies it’s ever gone off by accident in his presence.
  • Wife’s employment at Sig came after his preference for the brand.
  • Notes incidents are minimal statistically (“Are you never gonna fly a plane because they crash?” – Jimmy).
• Quote [19:57, Mike]:
  “…this is not me defending this. This is air traffic control. I’m not defending Sig… I like the gun. There’s one right there. Hopefully it doesn’t go off.”
• The team concludes that gun preferences are often tribal and overblown and resists dogpiling on brand controversies.

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5. Open Carry, Policing, and Citizen-Cop Interactions

[23:18–32:11]

• Major current event: Terence Crawford (boxer) held at gunpoint by police (due to open carry, perceived threat, reckless driving), sparking debate about open carry laws and police reaction.
• Mike contextualizes: With open carry now legal in Florida, the training gap leaves police and citizens at risk for misunderstandings and possible violence.
• The hosts dissect the “flex” of open carry vs. practical self-defense (concealed carry makes more strategic sense).
• Deep dive into why many police are not prepared or trained on the evolving legal landscape
• Quote [29:24, Mike]:
  “Cops do not train, cops do not pay attention to case law… there are cops working right now in Florida that don’t pay attention to their job—they have no idea open carry exists right now.”
• They debate “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should” regarding exercising open carry—cautiously noting both civil liberties and real risks.

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6. Church Security & the Reality of Mass Casualty Risks

[34:52–39:00]

• Discuss recent church shootings—one incident involved a former combat Marine setting fire and opening fire on a congregation.
• Reflection on the sometimes lackadaisical attitude of off-duty officers on security details and urging that “if you’re not taking it seriously, you’re part of the problem.”
• Advice: “Your safety is your responsibility.”
• Quote [37:55, Lewis]:
  “If you rely on 911, you’re done.”

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7. Societal Decay: Halloween, Gender, and Commercialization

[41:31–48:15]

• Hosts jump into “culture war” territory via Halloween “candy police” memes, the blue bucket movement (for autistic trick-or-treaters), and the annual gripes about holidays, commercialization, and American tradition.
• Notable, humorous banter about the excesses of “spooky season” and Christmas consumerism.
• Mini-rant on how traditional masculinity is eroded by modern society and over-commercialization.

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8. Israel/Gaza, Ukraine, and the Media Narrative

[48:19–52:19]

• Short but pointed exchange on media framing of Israel/Gaza vs. Ukraine/Russia, and how Christians in America are told to support Israel by default.
• Lewis asserts that faith shouldn’t require blind allegiance to any nation-state.
• South Park’s Israel episode used as a launchpad to discuss how pop culture filters foreign policy.

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9. Main Topic: Troop Deployments, National Guard, Posse Comitatus

[54:07–100:00+]

A. Trump, Hegseth, and Domestic Military Deployment

[54:07–57:25]

• Examining whether Trump and Hegseth really are escalating plans to “put troops in our cities.”
• National Guard v. Active Duty: Reviewing the legal boundaries (Posse Comitatus Act and US Code), and when the President can federalize or deploy under “insurrection/rebellion.”

B. Precedents & Current Events:

[57:43–62:16]

• Past and recent instances: Portland National Guard, Marine deployments during ICE protests, Chicago’s endemic violence.
• Rhetorical escalation: “A10 gun run” jokes to highlight frustrations.

C. Practical, Moral, and Strategic Problems

[62:16–99:09]

• “Walking Dead” analogies—when do you “quarantine” a failed city?
• Law enforcement is outgunned and outnumbered; military is not structured for civilian policing.
• They collectively agree that pushing society to the point where military intervention is palatable is part of a larger social engineering effort.
• Quote [74:47, Jimmy]:
  “The guy that fires a shot heard round the world is just gonna go to prison. They’re gonna make an example of them.”
• Quote [81:04, Lewis]:
  “The thing that’s going to make [it] right is not even going to be might, it’s going to be public will.”
• Comparing crisis interventions (National Guard after Katrina, Kent State, martial law logic).
• The challenge of subjective thresholds—when is it “so bad” military force is justified? The answers are all political, never objective.
• Several references to conspiracy-minded thinking (“create the problem so you can offer the solution”).

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10. Round Robin: “Military or No Military?”

[100:07–100:58]

• All three hosts reluctantly answer “military” when forced to choose, citing the collapse of institutional law enforcement due to politics, lack of public will, and the devastation of social capital/masculinity.

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Notable Quotes

• [05:17, Mike]: “Instagram is big dicks and big mouths… you can’t hide behind that fake account and talk because it doesn’t hold merit.”
• [12:51, Mike]: “When someone’s spreading misinformation who is a psychopath, toxic piece of garbage… at some point, I feel the obligation to let people know.”
• [19:57, Mike]: “I’m not defending Sig… I like the gun. There’s one right there. Hopefully it doesn’t go off.”
• [29:24, Mike]: “Cops do not train, cops do not pay attention to case law… there are cops working right now in Florida that don’t pay attention to their job—they have no idea open carry exists right now.”
• [37:55, Lewis]: “If you rely on 911, you’re done.”
• [74:47, Jimmy]: “The guy that fires a shot heard round the world is just gonna go to prison. They’re gonna make an example of them.”
• [81:04, Lewis]: “The thing that’s going to make [it] right is not even going to be might, it’s going to be public will.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:32–06:46: Social media beefs, burner accounts
• 11:16–15:11: On haters vs. positive engagement
• 16:06–21:52: Sig vs. Glock debate
• 23:18–32:11: Open carry, police training, evolving gun laws
• 34:52–39:00: Church shootings & security
• 41:31–48:15: Halloween, holidays, commercialization
• 48:19–52:19: Israel/Gaza, Ukraine, how media shapes views
• 54:07–57:25: Main topic: military deployments to cities
• 57:43–62:16: Precedents & escalation
• 62:16–99:09: When is military force in cities justifiable?
• 100:07–100:58: Final round robin: “Military or no military?”

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Tone & Language

• Direct, irreverent, and unashamedly tactical/military-police.
• Humorously self-aware (“We’re not smart enough to fix the audio, don’t touch it.”)
• Willing to “call out” their own side, but not without reminding listeners of the moral rot they see in society’s direction.
• Frequently meta—reflecting on their own platform, community building, and motivations for speaking out.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Antihero Podcast is a sprawling, often passionate—and sometimes bleak—examination of law enforcement, military intervention, and American social decay. By engaging real and highly controversial issues with equal parts gallows humor and street-level insight, the hosts offer a candid, unvarnished view into the fears, frustrations, and hard-won lessons of those standing between chaos and order. For listeners seeking unfiltered conversation on the edge of American legality and culture, this episode delivers.

Transcript

[Jimmy]

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[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

We unmuted.

[Jimmy]

We're here.

[Mike]

We're here.

[Jimmy]

It's the Monday morning broadcast.

[Mike]

It is.

[Jimmy]

First off, we kicked off the morning with a lot of technical issues.

[Mike]

No Internet.

[Jimmy]

No Internet.

[Mike]

I think I saw Rob o' Neill out back with wire cutters.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

There was a guy out back that had an I shot bin Laden shirt on and he was with a glasses.

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

Easy. Yeah, I talked to Phil last night.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

How'd that go?

[Mike]

Good. No good. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Live shows?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And no. What about John?

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. You want me to do my job? Yeah, I can do it. Make sure you subscribe to our Patreon. We're very active in there. Daily videos, daily posts. We appreciate everything. That's where we can connect you guys a lot more. I know, it's like, oh, these guys are asked for money. We're not. We answer a lot of messages. I take a lot of dms. We appreciate the support. So I can be a little more interactive in there. I see those alerts better than my Instagram. And don't forget, Thursday nights are still for the boys. 8pm Thursday nights, Brent is gone. It's a different format. You get the backwards hat and the sunglasses. You get the couch. You get everybody there. But we're still here for the boys on Thursdays and Mondays. Two live shows a week. Because we care about you.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, the broadcast, Monday morning broadcast is obviously a little bit more informative. Recaps, reflections, current events. You know, call ins.

[Mike]

Yeah, we got the call in topic.

[Jimmy]

Of the day guests. You know, stuff like that. Where Thursday night is strictly for the boys. There's no format whatsoever. We just, we just go live and.

[Mike]

Rol wild and crazy. Let's get that. Let's pin that number again. Let me just get it.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll pin it. So you, Jimmy, you were in on a podcast?

[Lewis]

Yeah, I was on with guys on.

[Jimmy]

The Ground and you said that you believe someone was in your chat.

[Lewis]

So we've had a person. I, I won't say I'm not even gonna shout out the, the Instagram handle.

[Jimmy]

Well, because he's only got. It's a burner account.

[Lewis]

It's a burner account. It was made like a day before he started talking and certainly talks like somebody who.

[Jimmy]

Rob o'. Neill.

[Lewis]

Yeah, certainly talks like him. And then as the, the day progressed into the night and then the night and into the morning, the, the syntax and, and you know, just grammar just became ridiculous. Was like, dude, what are you even trying.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, he's known to have burner accounts. Trust me, I've experienced with him for like two years ago. He's trying and he, he. I don't know if he's still a drinker, but he. All signs led to. He was very intoxicated into the morning. Now he's on, he's two hours behind us. And I'm talking like 10 in the morning for me, 8 in the morning for him. But he gets on and it's definitely Rob o'. Neill. You can just tell.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I mean, it just, just like little things. Like the average civilian wouldn't call guys standing around in front of the pool, standing on the pool deck. That's a, That's a different breed of cat. I don't even think we use that in the army.

[Jimmy]

Pool deck.

[Lewis]

The pool deck, yeah. You know, just, you know, there were just little things that I just kind of noticed. And so basically what Kevin did was go, hey. Because he got into the chat and he was like, dude, I'll send you a link right now. You can come on right now and talk. You could come.

[Mike]

And then they never do it out. Yeah, nobody that runs their mouth ever backs it up with actually getting online Instagram. And I'm sure we're going to cover some comments Instagram is big dicks and big mouths.

[Jimmy]

Instagram is a very helpful tool, but it's also.

[Mike]

It's just. Everybody's got big dick on Instagram. Everybody's a big guy. And then, you know, when it comes to, like, I'm not. I'm not very smart. I have a ged, but I will definitely get online and talk to you face to face. You can't hide behind that fake account and talk because it doesn't hold merit.

[Lewis]

So, yeah, I mean, and that. Remember, that's the guy that was like. That same account was going like, oh, you. You. He basically accused me of saying that the special operations forces people that. That died wasn't as important or it wasn't worth anything. And I was like, that's not at all what I said.

[Jimmy]

No, it's funny. Is a foundation for. A foundation for the 160th. Reached out to us.

[Lewis]

Good.

[Jimmy]

We donated. And then we. We shared their, you know, their GoFundMe page. So, you know, to. To sit there and say that you're on the death of special operations.

[Mike]

Here's my. Here's. I'm no detective, but here's my connection is. I went on Rob o' Neill's page, made a comment, Rob o' Neal's page, responded, and on me about Corey Smith. The only way you would know that name. It's the IA I was involved in that I've talked about 50 times online. Just did a documentary about it. That same burner account came right into my live Wednesday night and said, what about Corey Smith? So it's like two people, two accounts. One associated with Rob o', Neill, his actual Instagram podcast account, commented that, then deleted it. They deleted the whole thread to get rid of it, but they said the same exact thing twice in. In two days.

[Jimmy]

One of the few benefits of being a cop.

[Mike]

Not very intelligent, but I can piece together that. I've never had that name mentioned, ever. Rob o' Neill mentions it on his podcast, and then a day later, the same. Similar name, that same name is brought up by a burner account that is saying the same thing. Robiniel.

[Lewis]

So just. Just to kind of backtrack, like, we had Internet problems this morning. I was able to troubleshoot it and put it back together pretty quick. Right?

[Jimmy]

You did save the day.

[Lewis]

So. But here's the thing. IP addresses. If you're on a burner account, your IP addresses.

[Jimmy]

The.

[Mike]

You sound threatening. I know. A guy threatens IP addresses.

[Jimmy]

Oh, wait, what's it. What's an ip? Like, I know what it is, but like how.

[Lewis]

Okay, anybody.

[Jimmy]

Access and ip.

[Lewis]

So you have two. You have two different. And Louis, you backed me up on this too. Okay, you have a Mac address. The Mac address is like the Social Security number for a device. No other device has that Mac address.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Lewis]

The.

[Jimmy]

For a PC is going to have a Mac address.

[Lewis]

Everybody's going to have a Mac address.

[Jimmy]

Even if it's not a Mac.

[Lewis]

Even if it's not a Mac. Okay. Your IP address, which is what, you know, detectives and stuff use when they're doing digital crimes, things like that, is basically the address of the Internet that's being accessed. I think. Yeah, go ahead, expand on it. Pretty much the address is like the.

[Mike]

Computer connects to the router and then.

[Lewis]

The router communicates to the. To the outside world where they connect.

[Mike]

To other routers of other services like Google and Facebook and all that. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So in case you're wondering who that is, that's Lewis, if you're listening.

[Lewis]

Yeah, Lewis is our Monday morning producers. He's. He's awesome tech savvy. So. But just so that you know, if you know how to get down into the code, I can tell what IP address is coming out.

[Jimmy]

What. So does it just give you a general state?

[Lewis]

No, if what it is is if, like, let's say that I. Somebody from Antihero. So you, you talk to me on Instagram, right. I could go into the code and go, okay, it came from this IP address.

[Jimmy]

But how do you. Okay, the IP address is a bunch of numbers.

[Lewis]

Yes.

[Jimmy]

So how do you know that's me?

[Lewis]

Okay, it came from your ip, so that's.

[Jimmy]

You have to know my IP address.

[Lewis]

But if I'm looking at two accounts and they have the same.

[Jimmy]

Same one I got.

[Lewis]

That's. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know that. I don't know that you're Tyler, but I can tell you that this burner account and the antihero account have the same IP address.

[Jimmy]

Usually. A good way to do is. My wife does this a lot when she goes into her deep dives, is that she'll. Look, if you block someone from one account and you got five accounts, typically it blocks from all five. So if I can't find your main account and I also can't find the burner account that's talking about me, most likely it's associated with the same. That's a very easy way to figure out without using.

[Lewis]

I just, I just saw a meme that said that majority of. Of archaeologists these days are women because they're so good at finding shit from the past.

[Mike]

I got a topic.

[Jimmy]

Well, we're still on reflections for the week.

[Mike]

Okay. What else? Rob o'. Neill.

[Jimmy]

Well, I mean, so I don't want.

[Mike]

To talk about the other guy.

[Jimmy]

You got, you got about the Hegset thing where we're gonna go more into it. But the beautiful thing about current events is that they update. Right. So when we talk about something on Thursday and we cut a reel on Friday or Saturday.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Was it Saturday?

[Lewis]

It was Friday in the evening.

[Mike]

I think it was recorded at Thursday night.

[Lewis]

It was recorded Thursday night. You dropped it like Friday into Saturday. And then there was just so many people like, dude, you know, Keegan Dunlap already put this out yesterday. And I was like, yeah, bro, that's from Thursday when we had one.

[Jimmy]

It just happened.

[Lewis]

It was an hour in.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

So, like, yeah, my information was dated and you could. On my analysis. I still think that there's something more going on that doesn't work, that we couldn't do it through Microsoft Teams.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we got some.

[Mike]

Yeah, we need like a weekly update, like the next day, like a follow up live show. Things change.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like, quickly and people.

[Jimmy]

Like I said, the, the broadcast will expand to. I'm telling you, it will. Every single day.

[Mike]

Yeah. I think we're gonna be five days a week.

[Jimmy]

Five days a week. Monday through Friday. Whether or not that's next month or next year. That's just it. Is it?

[Mike]

That is as soon as I get my private jet.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

When the counterculture private jet pulls up, I'll. I'll hop on.

[Lewis]

Well, maybe, Maybe Trump will help us.

[Jimmy]

I mean, we put out like, you know, and I was hesitant to put out the haters video because we're staying positive. Right.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

But I just had. We. Me and Mike had two good solid rants that I just wanted in. And, and, and when I said, when I put the haters video right, like, somebody reached out to me and pretty much said, I can't find it. But someone said, let me look and see if I can find it. They were like, hey, man, don't let the haters win. But I'm. I've never served a day in my life, and I like watching your show, but I feel like I'm being called out.

[Mike]

Yeah, I can understand that.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And that is not. And I told him, hey, man, you gotta go back and listen to what I said. Because I did not say that. I have no problem with anybody. That's never. Most of my family has never served my Friends have served, because that's who I relate to. But, like, most of that, any of our families never served in any capacity. And we have a ton of people that watch this show. I mean, I watch sports shows. I haven't played sports since sophomore year in high school. I'm not an athlete, but I love. I like. I love watching. It's entertaining. Pat McAfee, all barstool. Like, that is really entertaining. And that's not the only thing they talk about. They talk about current events. And so if it's a show about sports, that's just analytics, just. Just breaking down games, I might not watch that. But I watch it for the personalities and stuff like that. So. But what I was saying was, is that the people that are talking the most have never served. And that goes. It goes to show, like, a lot of people will be like, y' all are wrong, and I don't want to watch your show. That's it.

[Mike]

But you know what I respect. Here's what I respect more. I respect disagreeing, and I love. Yeah, and I try not to emphasize on what I would call the haters as well. But when you have someone spreading misinformation who is a psychopath, toxic piece of garbage, like, you don't want to highlight that. But at some point, I feel the obligation to let people know. Like, it's like getting your news from CNN. Like, you're getting, like, twisted news that is 99% on one side. And I find people associate because of Instagram not having, like, you know, you don't really do your background. You see a page, you're like, oh, that guy's got a couple thousand followers, or whatever. He must be legit because he's got 10,000 followers, you got 20,000. So you automatically start liking that stuff. And half the time, I don't pay attention to some of the stuff I like, see something funny move on. But what happens is people are associating with psychopaths and people who are not mentally right, and you don't know you're doing it. And if you don't get that out, if you don't talk about. You can't get every hater in the comment. That's fine. People have a right to their opinion. But when somebody is spreading disinformation, yes, you have to address it at some point.

[Jimmy]

And another thing we do is, like, it's very. You fall into the trap. You can watch any type of celebrity or social media personality. They will talk about, reflect, and reply to the hate because it's entertaining. But there's so many positive comments in there.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

And then you feel guilty because you're like, we're not even engaging or amplifying people supporting us. And so that's a big reason. Like if you can't address all, don't address.

[Mike]

Yeah. So like that's why I try to single out like if there's somebody that's just over the top. But what we're here for is positivity. And I saw a lot of comments that were like how hypocrisy. The hypocrisy or hypocrites for being. We're doing this and that. We're trying to move the show. I wasn't involved in the old show. I was a guest a few times. This is a new show. This show is new. Thursdays is obviously going to be much different. It already has been seen. So we're gonna call out people. But I, I think you have to. You have to call. You have to check people that are doing something wrong. But not sit here for two hours just bashing people. That's not the point. We want to highlight the good cops. We want to highlight the good military, the good administrations. The people are doing the right things need to be highlighted. There needs to be a place get help with fundraisers and all that stuff. But it still give you the real news. So it's going to be hate Sometimes you're going to hear some hate come out. It's got to be told. But we don't want to stay for two hours heckling.

[Lewis]

You know, I, I just want. I'm waiting for the day that deputy sheriff or not deputy sheriff, like. But the guy under the sheriff or, or the battalion sergeant major is calling us out for something. Yeah, like I. That I'm excited for.

[Jimmy]

I mean, we kind of did. We'll go into that.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

I mean we didn't get called out, but we. Mike hit some.

[Mike]

I had a chief of police engagement with me over the weekend about one of his posters about one of his posts and trying to justify what they were doing. So I'm starting to get like the message across and I'm. And I do it, you know, try to do it nicely because I'm. My intentions are good to make people better aware that walking around without a vest or not having a gun in your holster is a problem. So.

[Jimmy]

Well, Lewis, go to the, the first image and I wanna. Like, there's not that one. Sorry, go to the next one. Or maybe four. Go to four. Go to four. There you go.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

So this One's come from Rig Sada and I don't really know who he is, but he said, remember when we talked about the 320 and you and your wife shilled it up super hard. Talking about Mike and Jojo super hard. Neglecting to mention the countless videos where it's inherently obvious the gun has issues. There are their own engineers admitted there's issues with MIM parts and tolerance stacking. All of you guys did was ignore the whole thing. So that's probably why some of your followers dropped their subs when you took over for Brent. It's not. It's not even an anti cop thing. It's more of a lack of integrity. All right, so the amount. That wasn't a debate, right? There was no debate. Like, Mike, I want to debate you on Sig versus Glock. Mike, you were wrong. This guy is also not true. Fucking but hurt.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And it's like. I mean, I've seen this in sports teams, right? But I've never seen it where somebody was like, I prefer Sig. Like that's what I prefer. And you're saying what he say is not true?

[Mike]

No, I mean they're. That it's been addressed. There's. All the videos have been disputed. So I. Mike, I responded the comment with. I've saw. I saw the people land on the moon too.

[Lewis]

And it didn't happen like I shot. Sorry.

[Mike]

We see things. We saw. You know, people say they saw planes fly into the Pentagon. And then some people say it didn't happen. That people say Charlie Kirk got shot. Some people say the microphone blew up now. So we see things all the time that on video that you have now, like 30 different versions of what happened to Charlie Clerk. So you have these videos of the Sig going up. I. Here's my. Here's my justice. I talked to a guy, Sal. I was talking to Sal on the way here, talking about why I like to Sig. I took training very, very serious. When we were issued the Sig, when I made swat, that was the gun I got very comfortable shooting. I got used to it. It. I shot it the best. It had multiple options for hand grips that the Glock doesn't. I have smaller hands, smaller feet, smaller socks. You know that story there. So it fit my hand better. I liked it. That's the gun I liked. My gun never went off. I went through two SWAT competitions. Jumping on the ground, hitting obstacles. Before that was. During all of it?

[Jimmy]

No. Is that before you got involved with a Sig?

[Mike]

I wasn't never involved.

[Lewis]

Yes.

[Mike]

Yes. The gun came before we got. She got the.

[Jimmy]

The Mike's wife works for sick.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So that came after we were issued the gun had nothing to do with her being sick first. That came after. So. And it has nothing. My wife and I disagree on there. What you. We argue all the time about stuff. We debate. We don't agree on every. Yeah, a lot of couch.

[Jimmy]

They do not agree on everything.

[Mike]

And we have a very good debate back and forth. We probably make a great show. You never know we're married. The way we would argue back and forth. So as it has nothing to do with who works where or whatever. So it just has to do with. That's the gun I prefer. That is more like a personal attack that people left. Because I said I liked Sig and I defended. I've never defended it. I just said it's never gone off my closet, my trunk, or anywhere else. And every time I've seen it go off, there is some input or some movement or something going on. I don't have any other opinion on it than that.

[Jimmy]

Look at the. Look at it like this, right? Instances where Sig went off. Right. That's what everybody's saying.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Jimmy]

Are you never gonna fly a plane because they crash? I mean, if millions and millions of people use Sig, Right. And it goes off twice. Issue to fix. Sure. Like something to address. Sure. PR nightmare. Sure. But I mean, planes crash all the time. We all know when we sit in planes, how many people.

[Mike]

Do doctors kill you. So, I mean, how many people. You go. You can stop going to the doctor. And this is not. I wanted to make this very clear. This is not me defending this. This is air traffic control. I'm not defending sig. I'm not on the Sig train. I'm not saying what happens. Telling you I like the gun. There's one right there. Hopefully it doesn't go off.

[Jimmy]

Wouldn't that be some. If it went off?

[Mike]

So you keep. Stay tuned, all you Sig haters. Stay tuned forever in case this one goes off. They will happen every episode. It'll go right between both of them, though. So you guys are good over there. But. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that you get on the Internet and some. And of course you are.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, okay, that's there.

[Mike]

But that's just a train to jump on. You like Glock?

[Lewis]

Awesome.

[Mike]

Glocks. Shoot. Well, I love Glock. You like staccato swat, Boys swat Katos. You like those. You like mp you like Smith? Whatever you like. Great. I'm not defending the gun. I like it. It's the one I learned to shoot the best. I like the gun. That's it. I'm not over here.

[Lewis]

I mean, I mean, there's. There's hunt. Probably millions of 320s or the. What is it, the M19. Right in the inventory in the u. S. Military. And we had one incident that they said it went off, but it actually didn't. And it. The guy was charged with murder.

[Mike]

Yeah, it just happened.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, those things. I telling you right now, if you think military grade meets it's awesome, you're wrong. But more than that, all the people out at the range taking those things in and out of holsters, banging them into trees, dropping them on the ground, and every other thing imaginable, you'd figure there'd be more of them going how.

[Mike]

Big the sig academy is and how many classes they teach a year. Sure, a year. A day. Yeah, a day. And you've not heard one sigo, and that's civilians. That's amateur. People that come to handgun 101 that draw like one time and shoot one box of ammo to learn nothing but safety and handling of a gun, all those classes. Like I said, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not defending. I'm just saying there's always some type of input, something going on. There's it and it's overanalyzed. And it is what it is. But I don't care if you don't like it. I'm not standing on the hill. Fight one.

[Jimmy]

There's one more dm. It's the first image. Louis, if you want to pull that up, we got this.

[Lewis]

I'm gonna try.

[Jimmy]

I can't see the screen sound my fucking glasses. And I know you guys can see it, but for anybody listening, we got a message. Can you read them? Oh, I got it right here. You guys asked for money for money, but can't explain anything. Just quit Again, this Matthew Doyle, this retard says you guys asked for money for money. He said for money twice, but can't explain anything, Just quit. So, I mean, again, those types of people, they're still there.

[Lewis]

I. I got, I got, I got. We can't put it up on the screen, but, like, I actually got a bunch of good ones. I got a ton of good deals.

[Mike]

Want to put the number up? Call in, text in? You want to pin it? Yeah, we Pin it whenever you're ready.

[Jimmy]

So we're looking for debates. We're looking for quick, quick, under one.

[Mike]

Minute questions, debates, text that we can read.

[Jimmy]

What is it?

[Mike]

772-21-745-35453.

[Lewis]

Be brief.

[Jimmy]

Jimmy's number.

[Lewis]

Be bright, be gone.

[Mike]

Yeah, don't call me about the dude hanging in a tree, jumped up an airplane.

[Jimmy]

He pinned it to the top. Yeah. So that's pretty much it. Going into current events.

[Mike]

You know, I got a couple.

[Jimmy]

All right, let's get it off. Mike.

[Mike]

So many. And I wasn't supposed to look at the chat, but somebody mentioned Terence Crawford. He's the guy just beat Canelo Alvarez. Boxing match, like, huge deal. He was held at gunpoint in a reckless driving call in Oklahoma or no, Omaha, Nebraska, right after, I guess yesterday it happened. So the debate is. Of course, the mayor's relieved we're doing an IA because a famous person was held at gunpoint.

[Jimmy]

Wait, an I.A.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah. They're going full blown. It's a famous athlete.

[Jimmy]

What's internal affairs have to do with anything?

[Mike]

Well, they have to make sure the guy didn't violate any policy.

[Jimmy]

Wait, is he a cop?

[Mike]

No, no, he is a boxer. He was stopped for reckless driving.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Mike]

Four occupants in the car. They were held at gunpoint. There's like video of the whole interaction that's going around.

[Jimmy]

You said he got held at gunpoint. You've got to say it was a cop.

[Mike]

So I think, yeah, cop held him at gunpoint. I'm sorry, no. Cops held him at gunpoint. Reckless driving call, from what I'm reading initially was there was a gun on the floorboard. Now, everybody was determined to legally be able to possess a handgun, but there lies when we. This piggybacks the whole open carry. Now, in Florida, if you're going to carry guns and carry guns in plain view or carry guns open carry, you're going to have different interactions with the police than before. We have another current event where dude blows into a church and kills people. We have Charlie Kirk getting shot. We have a shooting a couple of days ago in North Carolina. Yeah, yeah. So we have the ICE shooting.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So people are shooting people with guns. So if you're going to carry a gun openly concealed on your floorboard, you have to understand your interaction, though it shouldn't be unconstitutional, is going to probably be a little bit more heightened and intense 100 with the cops.

[Jimmy]

Because here's the thing is all the Cops on the road right now have been trained to guns are us. Guns are bad to have in any situation an open gun. I mean I just, you know, I, we all have dreams. I had a dream that if some kid pulled out a gun right in front of me and I was like, you know, worst case scenario type stuff and you know it's going to take now cops graduating the academy right now that have to be trained that now it's open carry. So the sight of a gun doesn't necessarily, necessarily mean hostile action towards you. However, cops are always trained. Dude like you, you're on the reaction no matter what. So if somebody introduces a gun into the scenario like that, that is no bueno.

[Mike]

But in this case it's a, it's like 3am Guns, we need four occupants, reckless driving. So the pattern of behavior that goes with that call is a heightened type of call. Now you walk up to a car, you see a gun, you're going to pull your gun out. Now this guy's a celebrity. It gets recorded, it goes on the news and it gets over dissect. That happens probably three or four hundred times a night. Minimal in the country where car gets stopped and the guns are drawn. Happens all the time. But in this case it gets.

[Jimmy]

Was the gun given back to him?

[Mike]

I think it said he was listening to citation. Everything was good like. But there is video of put your hands up. I'm not. Blah blah blah. So that, but that's common and that's. That happens. And now you have guns being introduced more to society. You're going to have more heightened interaction with police.

[Jimmy]

Here's the thing is open carry. Listen, I'm not a fan of it. I promise you. I'm a constitutionalist. I have a gun on me pretty much no matter where I'm going. Unless. Yeah, I always have. I don't care what the law say. I care about me. It's better to be what, judged by 12 than carried by 6. So. But at the end of the day, open carry is something that's going to alarm the entire public. It's going to alarm cops. If you want to carry a gun, carry a gun. If you're responsible, if you're a responsible gun carrying person, you're going to conceal that and never let anybody know that you have that gun. You don't want people to know you have the gun because you want to be able to stop a threat and you don't want to be targeted yourself. Right. So I don't want anybody knowing I have a gun. So to carry a gun. Open carry to me, it's not stopping any fucking criminals. Like it's not. They are going to conceal carry no matter what. And that goes back to when Florida did conceal carry. Now you don't have to have a permit and everybody was like, well, permits like dude, these are gonna carry a gun concealed no matter what. It's not all it's doing. Restricting concealed carry without a permit is only affecting the law abiding citizens. It's the shipbacks are going to conceal. Whether they not have one felony or 10 felonies, it doesn't matter. They're going to conceal. So open carry to me just is kind of. My opinion is kind of like a flex. Like I have a gun now, motherfuckers. Like I'm a gun toting American and now you guys have to look at my gun.

[Lewis]

I'm gonna step in for just a second because you guys are cops and this is, we're gonna have this debate. There are absolutely, I think times when open carry are, is very important because presence is deterrence. So if you live at a place and there is a riot, I am absolutely going to open carry. It's my poison arrow frog theory. If I look like I'm squared away and I'm carrying a gun, maybe you're gonna in the.

[Jimmy]

Are you talking about in the middle of an occurring riot or.

[Lewis]

Yeah, like so, like so we, we live in. Okay, so let's say we're in Orlando, right? We're here, we're at the studio. Riots are happening, they're coming down the street. We would absolutely strap up and make sure people know like, hey dude, you don't want to bust this place up because we'll.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, but that kind of goes with like the same for me as like holding a rifle, standing outside of our shop. Like, yeah, don't you move along. And I agree with that. I'm talking about just in general public, like at a baseball game. Because what's gonna happen is everyone's just gonna start putting up stickers. Private property. Do not bring guns on here. Right?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Whether or not people, then you're gonna have to conceal.

[Lewis]

Well, I mean like if you try to go into Raymond James stadium, you, you can't get in there with a gun. No, you can't.

[Mike]

I got, I got one text, I got two things. I got one text message that says this guy works in South Florida. And now he was. Their directive from their agency attorney was people can open carry in the airport.

[Jimmy]

I mean, I'm telling you, dude, now.

[Mike]

Here'S here, let me, let me get on the soapbox, the Copville soapbox for a minute. Cops do not train, cop do not pay attention to case law. There are cops walking around right now working today in Florida that are getting cracked on tick tock and making videos that do not know that the open carry law is in effect.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that's true.

[Jimmy]

So they exist.

[Mike]

So we still see videos on all the first amendment auditors of cops not knowing the basic constitution of when they can tell somebody to move on leave. You have cops still believing you can't be videotaped in public. Just recently, Martin county there was a female cop that argued and argued. I mean it went all over viral because she's telling a guy in a Wawa parking lot he can't video her. Now you have open carry in Florida. It half ass rolled out. There were some Instagram posts, Desantis said it, a couple sheriffs put it out. There are cops working right now in Florida that don't pay a attention to the job. They have no idea their open carry exists right now. They're going to walk up to a call, dude's going to have a gun, there's going to be a catastrophe. And instead of them being trained and ready, they're on tik tok, they're off. That's my problem.

[Jimmy]

My theory of just because you can doesn't mean you should, right? So if you train lions, right, and the lions are trained not to eat you and you're rubbing them and you're doing shows, right, you're, you are basing your livelihood on the fact that these lions are trained. But what if one bite your head off, right? So you're sitting there walking around with an open carry going hey, the cops are trained to deal with this. So I'm good, I can do this. Do you want to bet your life that every single cop you engage with is not going to be threatened or no case law or know the new law stating that you can have that gun, he put six in your chest, you're dead and he goes to prison. Sure, but you're dead. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[Mike]

I agree but there my I'm see we have. That's where we differ. I believe it's the cops fault. Agencies not training their cops, cops not taking the job serious to be up on the laws and up on what's going on. They'd rather be on social media making videos, trying to get famous which is what a lot of the tiktokers respond to. Me, they want to be famous.

[Jimmy]

What. What we're kind of debating right now is what a lot of the black community tell their children.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Is that like, I can't trust the cops, so you need to do everything they say and. Because I was gonna ask you, would you tell your son to open carry?

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

Because of the cops. Because, like, one I can't risk.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yeah. That. Yeah. Until the. You can prove to me that the cops know that this isn't. I'm telling you, there are cops right now. The videos are coming. Florida, please send the videos in. Dime your buddy out. Get me the body cam. Give me the case number. I'll pull it. There's going to be videos if there already isn't, where they're drawing down, proning people out, putting people in handcuffs for open carrying and floor. It's gonna happen, if it hasn't already.

[Lewis]

So before this all rolled out, remember that if you were engaged in hunting, fishing, or camping, we had auditors. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You could walk around with a rifle, right?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

You had to be able to prove that you were heading.

[Mike]

The guys would grab the. They would carry a little mini fishing pole in it.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Just got to make sure there's a pond somewhere.

[Mike]

And then there's the far other side of this. I saw a dude on a bike with a Draco on his back.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So a guy riding down the street with a Draco. Yeah, no, he had a bicycle. Draco on the back of his.

[Lewis]

Like there was. There was a dude on a crotch rocket with. With the. First of all, that's a stupid gun. If you carry that gun, Draco, you're. Yeah, that's.

[Jimmy]

That's a mini ak, right?

[Lewis]

Yeah. Without a buttstock. Without a butts. Good luck, bro.

[Jimmy]

Looks cool.

[Lewis]

It looks cool. Good.

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

That as far as the call and text in, I'm getting a lot of texts. I'm responding. If you're gonna call in. I can't take a cold call. You have to text me. Kind of give me a synopsis of what you're gonna say. I can't rest the Mike's.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Mike's doing two jobs over there.

[Lewis]

Yeah, we're gonna have to, we're gonna.

[Mike]

We'Re gonna work on it. We'll get it, we'll get it figured out. But if you're gonna, if you'd like to call in, you have a topic. I need like a quick text about what it's going to be about. And again, we're trying to keep it under a minute. We don't want, you know, a guy holding the phone. Eventually we're gonna have to run into the computer. All got cool stuff. But we're, you know, this is a new show, so we're working it out.

[Jimmy]

We got, so we hit on open here. Let's hit on this church shooter. This is crazy. Yeah, I, I don't even know if it's the same one, but no, it's not. So when a churchgoer ran over a potential, a guy was coming in. This isn't the one we're gonna talk about. I'm just saying church shootings are a thing. If you go to church on Sundays, you better be strapped, dude. Because it doesn't matter how many security guards they have, how many cops are outside. These people want to pray on sheep praying to Jesus because they're evil and demonic. So they.

[Mike]

It's bad.

[Jimmy]

A guy was walking into a church. I don't Know if he engaged security first or what, but a churchgoer that was late hit him with his truck and then they killed him before he could shoot anybody. I think the same day yesterday we had this Mormon church, right? Anybody got anything on that?

[Mike]

Yeah, so gunman was a former combat marine. He was a military guy. He drove his truck through the front of the church, opened fire with a rifle and eventually used an accelerant to set the church on fire and then was engaged and killed by the police upon their arrival. Currently they're executing warrants on his house and anything properties he owns to get more information. That's as breaking as I guess. I guess there was nine victims.

[Jimmy]

Any deaths?

[Mike]

Last I saw was one, maybe two. And like that information still rolling in. Nobody knows a motive yet. But that's again, you're sitting in church, mind your business, praying to God and a truck flies through the window, flies through the front doors. Dude jumps out with an AK47, starts shooting, I mean, and then sets the place on fire. How many? You're not, you're not prepared for that. Every church, I'll give it to my town. Almost every church has a detail deputy, or they have multiple armed security guys.

[Jimmy]

Or both.

[Mike]

Or both. A couple of the big ones have both.

[Jimmy]

I'm guilty of it too, guys right now currently, if I was, if I was a cop right now picking up a church detail, I wouldn't be. But before today's climate, cops pick up details, they just want money and most of the time they're on their phone.

[Mike]

They'Re sitting in the corner with a chair. Yeah, I am too.

[Jimmy]

I'm not. You're. They're not standing there for four hours ready to kill someone. They should be in, in a current climate, maybe they would be. But most of the time deputies are just there for, what do you call that? Deterrence. Like, hey, make it a harder target.

[Mike]

Yeah, put the car out front of.

[Jimmy]

The door, let's put out, let's move on to the next church and hopefully that church has a deputy. But in all reality you are trying to create a, a harder target. Just like when you get out of your car and go to the gas station, you know, always want to look like you'll someone up because you're never going to get with you're. If you look like a soft target that's about to be taken, they're, they're going to prey on you. So it's the same thing.

[Lewis]

I mean, at the end of the day, your security and your safety is your responsibility. If you're outsourcing your safety to someone else. You're wrong. Especially if you're a man. Sorry.

[Jimmy]

I think it's good to have a cop there.

[Lewis]

I'm not saying it's not, but at the end of the day, it's on you.

[Jimmy]

We tell people all the time, if you rely on 91 1, you're done.

[Mike]

But then we go back to my, my, my world of cops is like you said, the dude is usually taking that job because he's want some cash. He's on the phone with a girlfriend in the corner. He's buried in his phone. He's not. And I've worked those detail where I got. I worked the same church over and over because they were great people, Christ fellowship. And I was very engaged. I would go walk around the daycare and I'm not special. I was on my phone too. But the ones that were excessive, they would say, hey, the so and so worked it last Sunday. Excessive on his phone. And we tried to say something and he got like nasty and shitty and like, you know, and they'll go tell their buddies, I'm just trying to make money. I'm just trying to get some ot. But you're putting yourself in a obvious place where these tar, these incidents are happening and you're not staying vigilant. That's on you. And who. Imagine this happens at a church where there is a cop and there's like video of you buried in your phone and innocent people die and you happen to survive. You are going to regret every text in every reel you watched because you're gonna be fried like, like all over the Internet.

[Lewis]

If you are in a church security team right now and I know a few of them and you are not tearing it down and going, okay, we really need to get serious about this. You're fucking wrong.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Well, I see you guys got some sweet shirts on. Jimmy, you got a gun. God and God governor Mike, you got be confrontational on.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Jimmy]

That's not Mike. That's not Mike. That's not Mike.

[Mike]

Still not Mike.

[Jimmy]

There's Mike.

[Mike]

Come on, get it right. There's guy clipping this right now. I need, I need to look as good as possible. He's gonna post me later.

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

That's the two I was gonna hit.

[Lewis]

Oh, man. We still got. Not the current.

[Jimmy]

Now other than other Thanatus.

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah. And.

[Mike]

And Israel and the Giants won a football game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We lost our best player for the season. But at the price of that, I finally got to celebrate a victory.

[Jimmy]

I just wanted to touch on image one and two. So go to image one. This. Oh, wait, no. Two. Sorry. Go to image two. So this was from a. I just. It was in my things. Freebiemom.com Stop being the candy police. That tall boy with no costume, maybe he has sensory issues. That little girl who won't look up, maybe she's fighting anxiety. That teen with headphones. Maybe autism makes his whole night overwhelming. I'm for this, right? I'm so for this. Or maybe they're just kids who want free candy. And guess what? That's the point. Newsflash. Kids don't owe you their diagnosis, their story, or approval to knock on a door. If a teenager asking for a Snickers bar is what ruins your night, then problem isn't them. You. It's you. I'd rather see kids walking in neighborhoods laughing with friends and stuffing their faces with chocolate than doing any of the 10,000 worst things they could do. Halloween is not your audition to judge children. That's. It's not that deep. Hand out the candy. Thank you, Karen. Now go to the next.

[Mike]

She's definitely hoa.

[Jimmy]

Image three. Image three, right there. The bucket was made to show that children might have autism, might have something where if they're acting a little strange, this is the only Karen that she went, so, Karen, you can take it off now. You went, so Karen, that the one thing society was doing to help kids with these so they can trick or treat. And if you see a blue bucket, maybe it's a little bit extra attention for this kid. Don't scare the kid. Be or be a little bit more inviting. Turn off the horrifying things on the porch that are jumping. This was meant to help kids so they can all trick or treat. And this stupid Karen is saying, don't do that.

[Mike]

I. I would like to see her. I would just want to see what she looks like. I can only. First of all, News flash. That's like the white as white fucking comeback news flash, buddy. I mean, and I guarantee she's got.

[Jimmy]

No children with autism.

[Mike]

She reminds me, she sounds like a cop wife. One of those miserable cop wives that.

[Lewis]

Just lived through their major's wife.

[Mike]

Dude, they're so bad. That's what she sounds like. She sounds like somebody has nothing better to do than the ranch. She got a blue check mark, so I can only imagine. And then the morons that follow her.

[Jimmy]

You're just a regular person trying to do right by kids on Halloween. You're like, oh, the blue bucket thing, that came out a couple years ago. That's a good idea. Let's start. Hey, babe.

[Lewis]

Hey.

[Jimmy]

Anytime we see a blue bucket, turn off the scary things. Be a little bit more inviting, be a little bit more nice. And now this Karen's yelling at you.

[Lewis]

Telling not do that, dude. I mean, I mean, so the out of here. I've got a five year old who's got some disabilities and we go to the Halloween store. The first year we took him to the Halloween store. Oh my God. He couldn't deal with any of the scary stuff.

[Jimmy]

It's over stimulating.

[Lewis]

And then so this year we took him back and they had him. Yeah, so they had a tunnel of scary stuff and we're like, all right, buddy, are you going to do it? And he's like, I could do it, I can do it. And then he gets halfway through and he's like, that's enough, that's enough. And so we were done. We're like, all right, we're working him through it. I mean, I think the blue bucket's a great idea, man. You don't want him to run away and have a bad night, go crying to mom. Just, just chill for a little bit, you know? It's okay, man.

[Mike]

The holidays are all made up, man. It's a money grab.

[Lewis]

Oh, no. Oh, that's a whole other conversation, bro.

[Mike]

Buy your kids some.

[Jimmy]

I know, it's funny. I mean, we're all guys here. The guy show. But you ever. Valentine's Day like all this, they put the most.

[Mike]

Thank God my wife does not care about any of that.

[Jimmy]

I'm very. My wife doesn't.

[Lewis]

So she wants it every day. No, you guys are lucky because I got a full blown fall slash Halloween invasion in the house.

[Mike]

Guess what?

[Jimmy]

I love Halloween.

[Mike]

I've been, we've been together five years, we've never had a Christmas tree.

[Jimmy]

Okay, Mike.

[Mike]

Never. We don't have.

[Lewis]

I, I. Dude, I'm anti.

[Mike]

No, I love Christmas. I love Christmas.

[Jimmy]

Dude. But which one of you. I know for a fact one of you guys wants a Christmas tree. It's not, there's no way, statistically speaking, two people that.

[Mike]

It's just. I look at it.

[Lewis]

No, I, I'll give you.

[Mike]

I get my anniversary wrong. Doesn't care. I get a birthday. Right. But I just, I'm. There's other things to worry about. And think about it. Think about dudes again. Trouble forgetting Valentine's Day just a day and it ruins their whole week or whole month because they didn't do whatever. Just be nice to her all the time. And you know, the holiday comes around. Just be nice all the time or argue all the time. I mean don't just, just keep it one way or the other.

[Lewis]

My issue with Christmas is that it's made up and it has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus. It's.

[Jimmy]

It can if you.

[Mike]

It's commercialized. It's about money. Then you don't need a tree.

[Jimmy]

But you don't have little.

[Lewis]

Why do you have a tree? Do you even know why you have a tree?

[Mike]

Because the Grinch stole it once. No, we have to put it back.

[Lewis]

That the reason we have a tree is it's a yule tree. That's, it's, it's a pagan holiday.

[Jimmy]

No, I have a 12 foot $1000 tree from home Depot. All right?

[Lewis]

And I want to decorate it everywhere.

[Jimmy]

My wife, me and my wife put it together last year and the entire floor was covered in glitter. There's still glitter.

[Lewis]

It looked like a stripper exploded.

[Jimmy]

And so I mean. Yeah, but I don't want to be Halloween. We talked about that too. We're becoming better and better Christians every day. And we're like, do we let the kids. Do you take that away from the kids?

[Lewis]

No, no, I, I, I, I absolutely won't do that.

[Jimmy]

As long as you're not celebrating. What is it, like Hollows Eve?

[Lewis]

Yeah, whatever.

[Mike]

I still don't think it matters. I'd be a good Christian and not put candy out in your front door. Like it.

[Reagan]

All right.

[Jimmy]

He's the Karen. It was actually him.

[Mike]

No, I get it. I'm just saying like those things. You are in indoctrin to think those things are important.

[Jimmy]

But kids like them. Now you're gonna take.

[Lewis]

No.

[Mike]

But I don't even have kids in my neighborhood. Like I live in some old community. But no, I'm not about not doing it. But it shouldn't change. You shouldn't feel like damn, I Was late today. I didn't get the candy out this Halloween. I'm a piece of. I'm a terrible person. Like, it. It doesn't. You're.

[Jimmy]

They put the candy Porsche lighting on this.

[Mike]

That Halloween candy has been out for six weeks already. And that's not. We got another month till Halloween. They want you to buy the candy corns. They want you to spend money. They want the pumpkin to go bad, so you have to buy another one. It's all about money. It's all it is. It's a money grab. It's a money. Exactly.

[Jimmy]

You got kids, man.

[Mike]

The pumpkin rolls have been out for three weeks already. It's not even October.

[Lewis]

Like, what the. Yeah, you're gonna have to clip that.

[Mike]

Jesus Christ, man. They're shoving pumpkin lattes down your throat, dude.

[Lewis]

So she. My wife came home with a candle, and she was like, I bought a candle. You're not gonna like it. And I'm like, it's some kind of pumpkin thing, isn't it? Just like. Yes. And then she got a pumpkin, and then she cooked the pumpkin seeds, and we could. She diced the pumpkin. She made pumpkin pie. My house smells like, I. You'd think we lived up north. We were like. We were living in Connecticut now.

[Mike]

You got me fired up.

[Lewis]

Like. Like, it. Like, seriously, we live in Florida, dude. Like, there's no freaking season.

[Mike]

They've already been doing Halloween horror nights for, like, three weeks.

[Jimmy]

They always start in September.

[Lewis]

Yeah, they always do.

[Mike]

They're racket, dude. It's like, the second that pumpkin dies, that midnight on the 31st, it's Christmas. And Thanksgiving's gonna get squeezed in there a little bit.

[Jimmy]

Here's my.

[Mike]

The Christmas trees goes.

[Jimmy]

Here's. My opinion is that women are the ones that keep this going because women like to do the whole spooky season, or some of them. You can go further and say, like, I'm so into horror movies. In the month of October, there's a horror.

[Mike]

There's a horror word in there.

[Jimmy]

And then there's fall. Like, oh, yeah, we all drift, all y'.

[Lewis]

All.

[Jimmy]

We all dress.

[Mike]

The uggs. Come out.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

Gotta wear lady boots.

[Jimmy]

And then, of course, women love Christmas.

[Mike]

We start Christmas November 1st.

[Lewis]

And. And so the men in their lives are like, it. Whatever.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. You have to. Yeah, you have to facilitate it. I'm lucky. No, you don't want to fight that. That's a. That's a.

[Lewis]

She said she could shoot me.

[Jimmy]

That would. All right, let's talk. Speaking of Christmas, let's talk about Israel hit the gavel.

[Mike]

You were getting ready to do it.

[Jimmy]

What about Israel? Oh, we gotta cover before we go into the topic.

[Lewis]

I mean, so south park came out with a pretty cool episode, which.

[Mike]

Another one.

[Lewis]

Oh, on Israel, like, specifically. And was like, hey, stop wrapping yourselves in the cloak of being a Jew and stop bombing the crap out of Gaza. I mean, I was like, even if I. I could hate the freaking Palestinian protesters and would love to run them over in my freaking truck.

[Mike]

Oh boy.

[Lewis]

But. But I also can go Israel maybe indiscriminately bombing over 70% of a city and ethnically cleansing and relocating 2.5 million people. Also not good. I. I can. Both of those things can be the true at the same time. And it doesn't make me a Jew hater because I don't like to freaking say that.

[Mike]

Can you say that?

[Jimmy]

Don't say that.

[Mike]

I don't think you say that. I was at a meeting one time and I said the Jews. And he's like, yeah, you can't say that.

[Lewis]

But that's the problem right there. I can't have a legitimate conversation about the ethnic state of Israel without being called a, an anti Semit.

[Mike]

You can say the whites, right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

I mean, why can't we talk about a country that is most. I mean, if we stop giving them weapons, they're done. It's over. Can we not have a conversation about where those bombs are going?

[Jimmy]

Our deep state government likes Israel, Our military likes being an ally with Israel. Like, I mean, I had.

[Mike]

They control the tv, they control social media.

[Lewis]

The tinfoil that's going.

[Mike]

The Internet was out this morning.

[Jimmy]

Morning.

[Lewis]

They tried to take us out.

[Mike]

I think so.

[Jimmy]

So, I mean, Israel's very, very hard, just like Ukraine and Russia, because, I mean, that's been going on for a couple years. I've flip flopped on if you have to pick one, which you don't, but if you have to pick one, you're like, there was a point in time where people had me convinced Putin was in the right based off of like, hey, if this was America, Putin did exactly what we would do. Right. Reinforce stronghold. Now, the guy from Ukraine was just.

[Mike]

Flying over like an ATM machine and withdrawing cash, right?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

He was just taking out 48 billion at a time and heading back wearing like pajamas on tv, like, hey, man, hurry up.

[Lewis]

Let's not forget that Putin was. I. He was. I'm pretty sure he was the head of kgb. If not, he was. At very least he said he was a villain.

[Jimmy]

Bond.

[Lewis]

He's a. He is A Bond villain level bad guy. I mean, you know, he is up there with his Persian cat right now petting that thing and ready to swivel.

[Mike]

In a. Catching the cat.

[Lewis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And so the same thing happens with Israel and Gaza. We're told to believe in that Israel are the good guys and the based off the 25 year war on terror. Islamic, Islamic countries are inherently bad. That's what we're. But think, right.

[Lewis]

The problem that I, the biggest problem that I have is that Christians are indoctrinated to believe that they have to support Israel because we're Christians and they're Jews. That is not the truth. That's not anywhere close to the truth. Israel today is not the Israel of Jesus. It's not. It is a state that has, that does not have religion as its primary part of operating. It's a, it's a country just like any other one. That's, that's the issue. You can be a Christian and go, I don't believe in what Israel's doing and you're not going to tell me because I'm a Christian, I have to support them. That's a lie. Sorry. It is. I'm getting a lot of dead stares right now.

[Jimmy]

I just don't. You can't tell what I'm doing.

[Mike]

Just listening.

[Jimmy]

I don't know. I'm listening too. I just don't.

[Mike]

That, you know. And I don't jump in everything. I'm. I'm more in the cop side here. Like that stuff.

[Jimmy]

That's why we got Jimmy. He know. He, he know. Even if he doesn't know 100%. He has his opinion. He can back his opinion up. And we would love for somebody to debate us, call in and say, yeah, you guys are a bunch of. Let's do some Collins. Do we have anybody screens we got?

[Mike]

No, I got some text coming in there. A lot of positive support. I'm double dipping over here. But every, Everything is more text. Engaged conversation. This guy was talking about the open carry. He was in the gas station. I told him we covered that already. He says south park is where we get our Middle east information.

[Jimmy]

But nobody wants to call in yet.

[Mike]

Not yet. Nope.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Mike]

A couple, a couple other messages for us to do some research on, but that's it.

[Jimmy]

So we'd love to have somebody even counterpoint or debate us. What?

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

What?

[Lewis]

No.

[Mike]

Nope.

[Jimmy]

What?

[Lewis]

You see it?

[Jimmy]

What?

[Mike]

Comments.

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Mike]

We're not supposed to be watching.

[Lewis]

I know, I know, I know. But he's here.

[Jimmy]

Who?

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, there he is.

[Jimmy]

Yes. Baller Buster. Yeah, there he is.

[Mike]

He doesn't like you, Jimmy.

[Lewis]

Oh, he hates my guns.

[Mike]

Who's Corey Smith?

[Jimmy]

Now? We have evolved from talking on veterans to talking badly about Jewish community. This is Jimmy Guy, the special guy. Hey, Baller Buster 601. Go back to the beginning episode we already identified.

[Mike]

No, call in.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, call in. We know what Your voice sounds like.

[Mike]

772217. We are prepared.

[Jimmy]

I hate Jeremy.

[Mike]

We're prepared to give you the mic. 772-217-5453. Baller Buster 600.

[Jimmy]

I'll tell you what, you guys call in. You guys put some pressure on Baller Buster in the chat. I guarantee you he won't call in. 100 guarantee you imagine being such a.

[Lewis]

Person came at Kevin Peach. He's like, is this. Where is this what a senior non commissioned officer stands for? And he's like, dude, what the are you talking about? Yeah, I don't know.

[Mike]

When you get drunk and yell racial slurs and get arrested, I mean, yeah, that's not what a Navy SEAL stands for, is it?

[Jimmy]

All right, let's go into the topic of the evening. Pete Heg says it's daytime. Huh?

[Mike]

It's daytime.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. We podcast during the day now.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

We broadcast during the day, broadcast by night. P Hexeth. So right when we did the squad cast Thursday night, it was fresh that he had just called all the generals in. And then other people were saying it wasn't the generals, it was this and that and the other thing. And then we clipped it. What, Saturday?

[Lewis]

Yeah, somewhere.

[Jimmy]

And then, you know, there's been some recent updates, but a lot of people are afraid that Trump and Hegseth are gonna dump troops, not the National Guard. Right, Conventional.

[Lewis]

I haven't seen anything.

[Jimmy]

I mean, because National Guard going into cities is not Posse Comitatus.

[Mike]

It's not. But it's like. And I know Domino's always a huge proponent of National Police, but it seems, and I support Trump, it seems like he just continues to push troops in more and more. And I know it's just National Guard, but it's becoming like one of those things where guys in camouflage and walking around like, military are okay in this. And it just slowly seems to be, we're going to push it a little further. We're going to add another city. We're going to add another city. We're going to add another city.

[Jimmy]

But isn't it up to the. So, okay, can the president for the National Guard. We're not on conventional active duty yet. For the National Guard. Can the president do it without the governor's support?

[Mike]

I think the president do whatever he wants.

[Lewis]

That's, that's. I mean, he can.

[Jimmy]

If you guys know anything on this topic.

[Lewis]

Yeah, let us know. I mean, like, I mean, there's, there's a lot. First of all, none of this has been tested in court. Right. We don't have case law on any.

[Jimmy]

Of this on using the National Guard or civil unrest.

[Lewis]

No, I'm. That. No, I mean active duty.

[Jimmy]

Well, we're not there yet.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Right now we're talking about the National Guard being deployed for already active civil. Can we deploy them for potential civil.

[Lewis]

That. See, that's, that's a question.

[Jimmy]

Because that's where it starts getting a little unconstitutional.

[Lewis]

Governor can. With, with, with no problem whatsoever. But as soon as they get, you know, they basically get go from national.

[Mike]

He's going to Portland now. Portland's the next city.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Trump. Trump sent a National Guard to Portland.

[Lewis]

National Guard of Portland.

[Jimmy]

So the governor can also send it. Right. Without the president's approval.

[Lewis]

Right. But if the president sends them, then they're federalized. Remember, just like when they were going down range with us. Right. You can be National Guard, but as soon as you got.

[Jimmy]

You get different orders.

[Lewis]

Yeah, as soon as you got orders. Now you're active duty and you work for the federal government. So, like, that's what I'm saying. Like, there's not a lot of good case. There's, there's really no way.

[Mike]

Here, I got the, I got the code right here. U.S. code. The United States or any of the commonwealths or possessions is. Is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign national. There is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States or the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States. So if he calls it a rebellion and there's a rebellion in progress, he can. That's, that's the three conditions. He can use the armed forces.

[Jimmy]

What the conventional active duty, not National Guard says I just keep National Guard.

[Mike]

During rebellion and unrest. Typically the president invokes this insurrection. However, there is a specific present provision in Title 10 of the U.S. code or ARM that or armed forces that allows for the President to activate the National Guard, and that's. Under those conditions, he can activate them. And for those reasons, without the governor's permission, without anybody's permission, he can do that.

[Jimmy]

Because I know Trump typically has done Border Patrol, ICE and U.S. marshals, he sends the agents And I've known a couple of them that get on birds, they fly out and they do the whole. They're the ones that. They're the law enforcement dressed in tack gear, like looks like SWAT gear that they're. They don't have to abide by some sheriff.

[Lewis]

Are they wearing the not fucking around crew patch?

[Mike]

Yeah. Well, see, somebody saying. Somebody saying there's no rebellion. I would have called Seattle when they took the police department over. I would have called that rebellion. Minnesota when they burned down the police department and.

[Jimmy]

Or when they created Chaz.

[Mike]

Well, here's what they did in Minneapolis. And I know I've talked to a guy that was involved in the George Floyd stuff. They went into the police department, overtook it, got the files of all the officers and started showing up at the officers homes. One dude took a brick to the head. He lives down here now. Still ptsd. I'm trying to get him to come on, but it's obviously went through hell and back like trying to hide. His family got doxed. So in. And then in Seattle they took over blocks and they took over. That's probably a rebellion. Like I would run an A10 through there if it was me. I would drop it. I would drop the A10 right in there and just, just clean it out if I was in charge.

[Jimmy]

Oh, see, I love it because you. Anybody get typed right and says it, make it a parking lot. And the problem, because we're very. We're talking. But you get a constitutionalist. Good. Whoa.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

An A10. Because obviously you wouldn't take an A10.

[Mike]

I would, I would, I would, I would steal it and fly it if I could. Hey, you are taking.

[Lewis]

You are overthrowing the government. See the video I sent you that. That government psyop of how do I steal an F16.

[Mike]

Yes, but you are overthrowing a form of the government. When you take over a police station and take over city blocks and become that violent, you are overthrowing the government.

[Jimmy]

But what about the civilians?

[Lewis]

I mean, you just wait.

[Mike]

Precision strike.

[Lewis]

Hold on a second. And I'm going to go when they.

[Mike]

Hit the Pentagon, like precision.

[Lewis]

Let me do this. Here we go. Was it. Weren't the Marines deployed just recently for something like this? What? And first of all, I want to ask about that. Like they, they. The Marines were working alongside law enforcement and they're. So a squad of marines or fire team of marines is with this police officer. And the police officer goes, hey, I'm moving up. Cover me. And they unleashed jeep guns.

[Jimmy]

What was that? Because they came from 29 palms. Yeah. And everybody was watching them come and they're like, oh, shit. 29 palms is infantry. They don't. And they hate their life sucks.

[Lewis]

So they were angry.

[Mike]

What was that? I don't know.

[Jimmy]

It was in Californ. It was just the ice stuff. Right. When everybody was throwing bricks at ice.

[Lewis]

So, yeah, let's see. So 700 marines were deployed to Los Angeles amid the protest following immigration rates connected by ice. Yeah. And then. So Donald Trump sent in. He literally sent in the Marines.

[Mike]

So. And then people. And some of the argument is like that that's not. It's not antifa. It's not Seattle. It's not what's going on. We have a US City here. There we go. What's today? Monday?

[Lewis]

Yeah, today is Monday.

[Mike]

Okay, let's go right here. I've been handy little app. Let's see. This weekend in Chicago, this weekend, there were 1, 2, 3, 4 very slow weekend. 5 killed and 25 shot.

[Lewis]

So 5 killed, 25.

[Mike]

Very slow.

[Lewis]

So an entire infantry platoon.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Lewis]

Wiped down.

[Mike]

Slow. Because last year it was three killed and 29 wounded. So we had a slow weekend. That seems like a problem that the police are not able to handle. If I can pull an app up and show you. Every weekend In Chicago, there's 25 to 30 people shot. There's lawlessness. How far does the federal government step in? Well, that's kind of what they did.

[Lewis]

I mean, they're. See Chicago's. I mean, this. This is my issues that, like, it almost starting to look coordinated, you know, like. Like this was part of a contingency operation. Because it's like, let's go here. Let's go here. Let's go here.

[Mike]

You go to the most dangerous cities in America where you have. If you watch the mayor of Chicago and the superintendent of police, whatever they call them there, talk. They're absolute morons.

[Lewis]

First of all, the cops. I mean, not all. I'm sure not all of it. But that organization, the Chicago Police Department, is notoriously corrupt.

[Mike]

Yeah. Cook County. Cook County Sheriff. But. But take that all out of it. It's out of control. You cannot fix it. So what do you do? I get it. We don't need a national police force taking over cities. I.

[Jimmy]

Well, I know, but what do you.

[Mike]

What do you do?

[Jimmy]

The problem is that constitutionalists do not agree with. I mean, every. It's subjective. Everybody has their limit where they agree with Posse Comitatus, but it's not. Yours is not going to match mine.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

So mine. When I'M like, activate Posse Comitatus. You're gonna be like, whoa, dude, it's not there yet. But Jimmy would have been like, oh, I would have activated it 10 days ago. Yeah, right. So it's, it's a line and it's, it's an executive order from the president. If I'm, if I'm assuming it's a president, you can't be waiting.

[Mike]

I'm going to say this. If we were. Let's say we were still an uncivilized and we had no government. We were. And we had a place like Chicago and we all lived outside of Chicago and we saw what happened in Chicago every day. Would we. Do you think we would tolerate that or would we try to isolate ourselves from Chicago?

[Lewis]

I think that we would isolate it. No, I think we would.

[Mike]

Walking dead. Like, I think we would do the.

[Lewis]

Walking dead escape from Chicago.

[Mike]

We would build. We would build walls around our place and we would not allow that to come into our neighborhood.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Chicago is. And also to, to forcefully intervene in Chicago. Will. There will be casualties.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jimmy]

The gang violence there. They shoot at cops. Cops can't do the job. You roll a military force in there, they are going to take rounds and they were going to send rounds and they were going to send accurate rounds with night vision and they were going to kill a lot of fucking people. It is going to be the topic of the world and probably go into history books. If we were to forcefully intervene and try to change Chicago by force. Yeah, that's the reason why they have.

[Mike]

I would just do a coordinated. And hit every city all at once, like a swat. You make the news, you might as well go to Baltimore and Memphis and all the rest of them.

[Lewis]

I think think this is. Honestly, like, as much as I hate to admit it, I think this is an absolute slam dunk for Trump. He is a law and order guy. Like, this is. There are so many people that actually want that live in these communities that are like, please exercise this cancer because I don't want my kids to have to go hide in the bathtub.

[Mike]

But that's where it's at in Chicago.

[Jimmy]

I know.

[Mike]

It is so bad.

[Lewis]

So there's. Even if they. Even if an infantry fire team from the. Let's face it, it's probably gonna be the 82nd Airborne, right? It's gonna be a fire team from the 82nd Airborne gets into a gunfight with the. The gang bangers. Can you. I mean, like, you're gonna lose gang bangers.

[Jimmy]

You're gonna. And another problem Is the. I know military police are trained in their training and whether or not they maintain that training throughout their year or whatever, I don't know. I don't know much about the military police, but they do have active training on how to deal with stuff, civil unrest. The infantry does not. They do not have training. They might have trained those marines for about one day before they sent them into Los Angeles or wherever they sent them. Yeah, but the infantry has one job is to search, seek out and destroy.

[Mike]

So if we don't do that, let's say, okay, that's, that's much that's in the infant. Yeah, that's. That's a lot. So what do you do? When does it become bad enough that it does become like you got, you got. You're building a wall for the, the security of the nation at the Mexican border. When does a city become so bad and so overrun with crime, murder and, and just chaos that it starts to corrupt the morals of the like downtown, the outskirts? When does it. When does it spread far enough that we have to go now? We're at 60 shootings a weekend and 30 deaths. We've increased over the last five years. We've doubled it now 10 years later, we tripled it. At what point does it. We do we go as a nation, like now, like it's already out of. It's already unstoppable. But when do we go, okay, it's really unstoppable now. How far out? What politician how. What politician's house has to get overrun or what donor's house has to get over?

[Jimmy]

I know the answer to this.

[Mike]

Where they go, okay, that now it's enough.

[Jimmy]

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[Mike]

Okay, we're back.

[Lewis]

All right, well, I mean, look, we gotta pay. I had to put that in the comments. Like, gosh, really? In the middle of this?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, man.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lewis]

We gotta pay the bills, bro.

[Mike]

Capitalism, man. Somebody said it. Capitalism. We are so.

[Lewis]

It sucks because we. We won't. Dude. Oh my God. This is probably one of them.

[Mike]

I guess we need a Monday through Friday show, so we don't.

[Lewis]

Oh, if only we had a Monday through Friday show.

[Mike]

I told you when the private jet comes in. Yeah, okay. What were you saying?

[Jimmy]

I've got. I've got your answer. What the happened to the camera?

[Mike]

You hit it with the door.

[Jimmy]

I hit it with the door.

[Mike]

Somebody did.

[Jimmy]

Hey, can you reach up above you and slide it towards.

[Mike]

Good.

[Jimmy]

A little bit more. That's good enough. All right, so the reason why this is gonna happen, you said, what's the answer? What's The. It will never. Because of the Democratic. And I. When I say liberal, I don't mean like libertarian. I mean the liberal soft hearted bad guy hugger.

[Lewis]

Did you. Liberal. Did you see the. The thing I sent you in the Instagram dms? You need to read that.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Lewis]

You need to do it right?

[Jimmy]

The. Well, pull it up that. You sent it to me. No, you pull it up. You sent it to me. You have your phone on you.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I can pull it up, but I can't. Can I show it on the.

[Jimmy]

No. Yeah, but read it anyways. The reason why it's not going to happen is because no one in that area in the suburbs of Chicago is going to have the balls to say that's we've got to stop.

[Mike]

That's why we're just going to move. I get into the like, that's where the like the whole national thing comes in is. Or the National Guard is like the politicians that are continuously elected in New York, Chicago, big cities are never going to change their stance on crime because they're supported by people who are uppity that don't, you know, people in Manhattan and New York don't give a. What happens in. In.

[Jimmy]

We saw the same video.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

About a gentleman talking about New York and just let it happen.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lewis]

So I mean, the thing that I sent you is. Is from the Babylon Bee and it says Batman unable to keep up with rising crime as Gotham elects yet another Democrat. I mean, but I mean that's kind of what like if you had good like a whole.

[Mike]

Hold on, hold on. Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Jimmy]

You got him?

[Mike]

Somebody. Yeah, that person. All right, hold on. I did the update on my phone and I hate it. Yeah.

[Lewis]

Is it that guy?

[Jimmy]

It's that guy. No, it's not. Rob. Damn. Hello. Hello.

[Mike]

Welcome. You are live on the air. For those that don't know, this is Reagan from our guy. Go ahead, man. How about it?

[Reagan]

What Mike? Are you. Are you. Are you. Are you saying that you want. You want military to come in?

[Mike]

I don't for. I don't specifically say I want military to come in because I think that draws. That changes everything. I'm asking what is the answer if it's not military and the police can't do it? What is the. What is between those two that can effectively police and get crime under control? That's where I'm. That's what I'm looking for.

[Reagan]

For.

[Jimmy]

Right.

[Reagan]

Well, dude, well there. The government. Everybody wants us to be okay with military coming In. I mean, did you see what the UK just announced yesterday, the day before, with their digital. Digital ID stuff?

[Mike]

Yeah, it's getting really bad. Yeah, the control is getting bad. And I know China's bad about that. Like, it's. It's bad, dude.

[Reagan]

They're. They're all friends up at the top. They're just trying to get everyone okay with military intervention because we've all seen this for years. Like, Chicago's been bad. Everywhere has been bad. It's only getting worse. They're trying to get everyone on board with military intervention to where? That's the only answer.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Reagan]

And I only answer is bringing in the military.

[Mike]

And I know Dom Dominizzo is a big. On that same side that they're allowing this to go on. So it gets so bad that everybody finally goes, okay, bring the military in.

[Reagan]

Yeah. And that's. And, and so to answer your question, as far as what's the answer, I don't think there is one. I'm. I've gotten to the point where I strongly believe that, you know, remember when Trump was talking about all Hillary Clinton in the emails, like, you know, her going to jail and all that stuff, and nothing's ever, like, nothing that he's promised or said has just has. Has happened. Right. Like him talking about the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. Everything that he's promised, like, that dude's really pissed me off lately. I. I truly believe that they're all just playing a game up at the top, trying to get everyone on board with military intervention or whatever they have planned next. And everything, everything happens that. If you want to watch what they want to do in the US just watch in the uk. Yeah, it always happens in the UK first, then it comes here. Same with all the, the. The training stuff, the gay rights stuff. All that started over there. And you see it come this way.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Reagan]

That's the, that's the order of operations. So I think it's just sitting back and waiting for it to happen.

[Mike]

Right.

[Reagan]

And people aren't going to like that answer because it's like, oh, we got to do something.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Reagan]

Oh, like what? You know what, what else can we do? We got to bring awareness to it. Well, there's millions of people talking about. I feel like everybody at this point at least knows about how sketchy the Epstein stuff is, and just everything in general. I think it's just literally sitting back and waiting for it to happen and then doing your best to fight it. But I don't know if you can. I don't even know if you know you can, I think it's all, it's all part of the, part of the plan.

[Mike]

Nope, I get it.

[Lewis]

But even as a plan is horrifying.

[Mike]

What I know.

[Reagan]

What do you think is there, is there, is there, is there a solution? I mean I know you're asking but have you like, what have you all been talking about? I came in a little late now.

[Mike]

That we just, we just got on the topic and I, I obviously I think God is a solution and found the Bible and being, being a good human being would help having a two parent home and raising your kids properly and teaching them the proper rules. So social media is a huge problem that, that, that assists. I believe in what you're talking about. The poisoning of our brains and making things okay like violence and seeing fights and seeing that it's okay to assault people and beat people and that's common in your family feed. So you kind of desensitize to all those feelings and then they, they just kind of hide behind the curtain and then before you know it it's cool.

[Jimmy]

To have the military run around with Christmas trees.

[Mike]

Oh, Jesus Christ. I can't say that. But yeah, we haven't really talked about a solution yet. But I, I, I get you, you and Dominz have a very similar take that they're allowing this to get worse and worse and worse so that they can finally go we have to come in nationally.

[Lewis]

Here's the thing, man. I mean I don't want to cut him off.

[Reagan]

Create the problem so you can create the solution.

[Jimmy]

Yes. Oh, that sounds like the Nazis.

[Lewis]

So. Well if you exactly what they take.

[Reagan]

That that's exactly their playbook is you know, let's create the the same with like all the global warming stuff.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Reagan]

Soros just making it purposefully worse. Like why did it's even even with the freaking who was it they're talking about the hard. Our environment stuff and atmosphere stuff is breaking down and how plant life is getting worse but they're spraying crap in the air. Tennessee had to come out and ban chem trails.

[Mike]

Yeah. You know like yeah, it's a rabbit hole. And the problem is you don't know who really to believe and who is all the way behind it. And you could have a whole conspiracy behind it and allow the right to think, oh we're doing the right thing, we're fighting it, we're trying to fight crime when behind all that is is a much larger agenda. And I've always, I've always felt that way as well. But you know for common people to believe that is possible is also. It's hard to believe when everything in front of you and your devices and on TV steers you completely away from that.

[Lewis]

I mean, we.

[Mike]

I appreciate Conan Reagan. We're gonna. I'm getting. I gotta move on, but I appreciate it. We have a seat right here in the middle for you if you ever want to come.

[Reagan]

Okay.

[Lewis]

I love you, dude. I mean, if. If you really believe that and you're getting. I mean, look, I'm kind of getting to that point where you're just kind of becoming nihilistic, then you have to make some decisions about what you actually want to do for your family. And. And, you know, you've got to create the community you want to live in, because if you're right, it is. It's all part of the plan. And even though the plan's horrifying, that this is all to create chaos, confusion so that they can bring in a more totalitarian type of government, then what are you doing to prepare to either survive it or resist it?

[Jimmy]

Well, I. No one's preparing to resist it. Because you don't even talk about resisting the government. I mean, you can say that, and that's about as far as you can go before you start saying, like, how would you resist soldiers coming to your doorstep? How you. Violence.

[Mike]

We didn't resist. A mask. We didn't resist.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we didn't.

[Mike]

We had. Publix had us telling us which aisle we could walk down in which direction, and we all did it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, there's. Nobody's gonna resist it. It's just a matter of rolling it in. And it's a matter of. And I'm. I'm. I'm. I get it. You don't want to be. I say this all the time. The guy. We are not men anymore. We're not a strong society. We're not anything. The guy that fires a shot heard around the world is just gonna go to prison. They're gonna make an example of them, and then they're like, oh, I'm not gonna do that. Right. The first shot at totalitarian government 300 years ago would be celebrated today. They're going to. Because of this. It's not. It's not. Did you hear what Jimmy did at the cross town? Did you hear now your heroic story? You're inspiring. They're going to use all of social media and the news and everything to shut that person down.

[Mike]

You mean they might.

[Jimmy]

They're going to call them a white.

[Mike]

Supremacist or they might Infiltrate our children and think that girls should be boys and boys should be girls and they don't know what bathroom to go in. Then we raise a whole generation that's arguing over that instead of. Of what's really going on.

[Jimmy]

You know what we should do? We should read a speech that is out there.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

And see if people disagree with it. Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Mike]

Yeah, but just think. So just think about what.

[Lewis]

I know where you're going.

[Mike]

Just think about what. This device knows, what you're thinking, knows what you're reading, knows where you're at in the grocery store. Google.

[Jimmy]

It can see. That's why I wear sunglasses. They can see where your eyes are looking.

[Mike]

Google's location software is so accurate. It knows what aisle you run. The reason they want you to share your location. And all those apps when they ask you is they know exactly where you are and they know what to.

[Jimmy]

That fat ass is near the cookies.

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm always near the cookies. So if that can happen and then you can. You confuse children and now you have teachers that are just bragging that they're going to confuse children about their sexuality and what they should believe. That is the entire weakening of society to where they can manipulate. And if they can manipulate that large portion of it, they're. Louder. They don't mind getting arrested. They don't mind going on TV and laying down the middle of highways and doing all this crazy. Not for the right stuff, but for the wrong stuff. That's what's going on. That's what's going on right now.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, we're.

[Mike]

We're getting ICE agents shot at for enforcing the national law of immigration. They're getting shot at. They're getting. Somebody drove her car into a lake the other day. There's a video. Like to get out and protest. Like we're doing crazy things to not enforce the law. And I could. It just. It doesn't make sense. When we became a country that got out in protest of enforcing laws, that's a problem. Defunding the police.

[Lewis]

I mean, I. I think you actually hit the nail on the head right at the beginning when you said if there was one thing that could help this, it would be the community of. I'm not talking about church. I mean the. The community of faith. Yes. Not church.

[Mike]

Whatever you believe in.

[Lewis]

Not church.

[Mike]

Right thing. Believing in what's right.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But don't beat the shit out of.

[Lewis]

Somebody having a set of moral standards and values that can. That trickle seven. That's why that like when you lose.

[Jimmy]

It, when it's gone, you have to intervene. And that's where we're at with this whole party commentage is like this id like this ideal situation where everybody is a good person. That's great but you have to reset. You have to reset the country and it takes, it takes force to do that. So just like a city that is rioting, at some point, yes, we can sit there and hope that they quell themselves in it but at some point they go send them in and they just tear gas the out of everybody until they all dissipate and it goes away and it's done. And so we're looking at a. A national picture with posse comitatus where at what point is. Is it. Is it right to do. Is it ever right to do?

[Lewis]

Well, I, I think that the, the thing that's going to make right is not even going to be might. It's going to be public will. I mean look, Abraham Lincoln did a hell of a lot of things that were unconstitutional and outside of the scope of his power, but he did them and he had the public will behind him. So we, I mean if people can get to that point where they are absolutely ready and willing for the military or whatever to come in, that will absolutely shift the paradigm to a point where we don't. We're not even arguing about it anymore. It's done and it's over with and then. Then we've got to go pick up the pieces because what you said at the very beginning, a lot of people are gonna die. That's. That's what we're talking about here is the. We're gone over the cliff.

[Jimmy]

Well at what point did the oh look, we're brighter. Imagine that. Anyways, thanks Phil.

[Lewis]

Dude, I, I had to keep it going while everything was like moving around in front of me.

[Mike]

But. But here's what I'm saying. It was like we see the videos just use new like Chicago we use for the shooting. Look at the subway system in New York and all the videos that roll in of just chaos. Human beings with no regard for underground for no. No regard for anybody else.

[Lewis]

No rules.

[Mike]

Naked just in pissing woman on fire. Yes.

[Jimmy]

We kind of breezed over that as a society holy. Like obviously the girl that was stabbed in the neck and killed made national news. I don't really know why other than the right was saying well if this was a black girl white man, this would be a different narrative. And the fact that she was probably Ukrainian didn't probably fueled the fire in Some weird way that I don't understand, but a woman was set aflame, and people just videoed her body standing there, and everyone's like, oh, is that fake? No. Apparently the nerves shut down when you're fully engulfed in flames. And you just sit there and hope for. Hopefully you have stopped breathing and passed out before you die of fiery.

[Mike]

But that just, like, happened like. It just happened like a car accident. Like a small car crash.

[Jimmy]

We were just like, oh, some guy just set a woman of flame in.

[Mike]

The middle of the subway. And. And.

[Jimmy]

But anyways, we have. There has been. You guys have got to help me out in the comments, because I'm gonna sound like a idiot. At one point in the. It was like a college university. Did active soldiers fire on a crowd and kill them?

[Lewis]

That was. Oh, was that Trent State? Ohio State. It was in Ohio. There's a. There's a. A song about it during the riots in Vietnam.

[Jimmy]

Oh, it was the integration of schools, right?

[Lewis]

No, I'll find it. I'll find it.

[Mike]

Kent State.

[Lewis]

Yeah, Kent State.

[Jimmy]

But yeah, we had active duty soldiers deployed. I want to say was the 82nd, but I could be wrong.

[Lewis]

No, it was Ohio National Guard.

[Jimmy]

Oh, okay. So that doesn't really.

[Lewis]

So it was Ohio national guards. That's May 4, 1970. There were people there that were protesting at the ROTC building. Yeah. Vietnam, 1970. Protesting at the. Are protesting the war at the ROTC building. They try to take it over. The national guard was pulled out, and at some point, somewhere, somebody opened fire. And then once it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Mike]

And.

[Lewis]

I think it was 12. 12 people dead. Isn't that the lyrics to the song to.

[Jimmy]

To. To my knowledge, posse comitatus is still not activating national guard. They are two separate things. If I am wrong, by all means, let me know. Anybody?

[Lewis]

Yeah, I don't think it. I don't think it violates Posse Comitatus at all.

[Jimmy]

Well, what's violated mean?

[Lewis]

So the.

[Jimmy]

You know, let's define posse comment.

[Lewis]

Yeah, so let's do that. Yeah. Do you want me to do it?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, you do it. You got a quicker.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I got the setup here for it.

[Jimmy]

But defining it would be important first. So we know, like, what violating it means.

[Lewis]

Yeah. So that's the positivity Comitatus act of 1878, federal law that prohibits the use of federal military forces for domestic law enforcement, meaning they cannot act as a police force unless specifically authorized by the constitution or another act of Congress enacted after the civil war and reconstruction. It was Intended to prevent uses of military power. And let's read it. Let's.

[Jimmy]

So. And now it does kind of sound like the national guard.

[Lewis]

Right, but. But it's. It's specific. It's specifically for the federalized troops, which. The national guard or not. Look, if you want to have the argument that the second amendment doesn't exist because we have national guard, then what.

[Jimmy]

The hell does that mean?

[Lewis]

Okay, so people will argue on the second amendment a well regulated militia. The well regulated militia is the national guard. That's why you can't have your gun. Because we have the well regulated militia. Okay, they'll make that argument. Well, if that's the well regulated militia, then you can't say it violates comitata. So you can't have one without the other. So if you're one of those gun grabbers out there, you better pick your side carefully on this one because I got receipts. Man, this is a.

[Jimmy]

This is really worried for anybody just joining. We're talking about whether or not posse comitatus is the same. If that's an. If the national guard being sent to cities by the governor or the president no matter what. If that.

[Lewis]

This sounds like it was directed directly at Mike, when I'm reading it, the posse comitata sack, it says whoever accept in cases under circumstances except expressly authorized by the constitution or act of congress, congress willfully uses any part of the army or the air forces like as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or in prison not more than two years or both. So this isn't just for the president. I mean, this is for anybody that uses them or any part of them to enforce the law. And that would be the active duty federal enforcement forces.

[Jimmy]

So posse comitatus. Does that mean that the president has to go, I'm enacting the posse?

[Lewis]

No, what the posse comitatus is the. Is the law that says you can't. You cannot use federal forces act. You cannot use the a. Even though we did it. Let's remember after Katrina. Hey, who went down to Katrina?

[Jimmy]

82Nd Airport.

[Lewis]

82Nd Airborne. Did they have a gunfight down there? Yes, they did.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. They had a couple.

[Lewis]

They had a couple of gunfights down there. And what were they doing?

[Jimmy]

They were stopping looters.

[Lewis]

And so they were enforcing the.

[Jimmy]

And I know this for a fact, they were. They were armed escorts for ambulances and emergency services because people were taking.

[Lewis]

And they went down in their maroon berets, remember?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So citizens were shooting at ambulances trying to help people.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Lewis]

During Katrina over in New Orleans.

[Mike]

Crazy.

[Lewis]

So, I mean, you know, you never hear anything about that. Well, if you were going to make this argument that, hey, we shouldn't use federal troops for this. Well, we did it already. We've done it a few times now. We've done it recently.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

So what's, you know.

[Jimmy]

Because human.

[Mike]

Well, a lot of. A lot of guys in the comments are thinking that a possum kumitatis is some type of southern dish. Yeah, it's like a. Like gumbo. It's like.

[Lewis]

That's how it spells.

[Mike]

Right. When I was in Louisiana, we had a lot of possum kumatas. It was really like a dish crawfish.

[Lewis]

They got the armadillo.

[Mike]

It's not to be confused with possum kumatas, which is a southern dish. So go ahead.

[Jimmy]

No, I mean, in. Humanitarian effort is also different than enforcing laws or.

[Lewis]

That was third brigade, wasn't it? It was third brigade, 82nd. Yeah, I think it was because I think the 505th was there.

[Jimmy]

Okay. Yeah, if it was 505th, it was so.

[Lewis]

Because my buddy was in the 505th.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Lewis]

And he said that they had just gotten back from Iraq not too long before that.

[Jimmy]

Oh, so they're primed and ready to go. Yeah.

[Lewis]

And so when they got engaged, they went right into battle drill One Alpha.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean, there's got. You can't send the infantry to do the job of a humanitarian. You can't send in the infantry to do the job of a police seeing type entity. Like I said, the military police does have training in civil unrest, so the infantry does not. They will fucking shoot you if you throw a rock at him. Because they're like, are they combatants or not? You know?

[Lewis]

Yeah, well. And I mean, dude, that. That EOF and that rules of engagement is going to be very, very difficult. But I mean, we've also got the. That's like. I was in the army in Europe, and I'm telling you, if you get sent here, you need to disobey that order. Don't do that. Did you see that video that I sent you? It's in. Dude, I send you a. Guys a bunch of stuff in the dm. I'm the one that gets.

[Jimmy]

Okay. All right. If it's in, go to Instagram. Is it. Is it you. You want it on? You want to play it?

[Lewis]

Yeah, yeah, let's play it.

[Jimmy]

Go to Instagram. There's a. There's a group chat that's like anti hero something. You might need to scroll down a little bit.

[Mike]

Are you sure you want to go in there?

[Lewis]

Yeah, let's just, just wait. Don't put it up on screen just yet.

[Mike]

I don't know what you guys talk about.

[Jimmy]

No, I mean it's just, I think it's just Jimmy sending.

[Lewis]

No, yeah, it's. Okay, so it's.

[Jimmy]

Never mind, never mind. Don't worry about it.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I sent it right here. I could, I could resend it. It was John Burke that. It was a John Burke video. Who, by the way, great guy. And I've already seen in the chat like three times. He needs to come on.

[Jimmy]

You've been on.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I know. He needs to come back. Yeah, I, I, Yeah, I think that guy's great.

[Jimmy]

Don't click that. This isn't on the screen, right?

[Mike]

No.

[Jimmy]

Okay.

[Lewis]

Here, I'm gonna, I'm gonna send it to you.

[Jimmy]

It says scroll down in the messages. It just send it again. Jimmy. That little Jimmy Arnett thing or the.

[Lewis]

Yeah, so I'm gonna send it to.

[Jimmy]

While he does that. So again it's so I don't. We've been sending troops into ours United States soil forever and I don't think it's ever going to change.

[Mike]

Yeah. And I. Again, I don't really believe we should bomb anybody. Like a 10. That's like, I'm saying that there has to be some type of shock force to like stop this. These big cities, the police are no longer effective. It's like I try to think of Chicago and you have 30 people shot at like 20 crime scenes. How did the police even keep up with. Keep up? You've been to a shooting scene. You know how much detail goes into one shooting scene is. Imagine if there's two now there's 20. Yeah, I mean, it's like, how do detectives respond? How do you get witnesses? How do you collect evidence?

[Jimmy]

Those cases are not getting solved because there's too many of them.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Lewis]

I sent it to you again on the anti Air podcast.

[Jimmy]

All right. You got it?

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Lewis.

[Mike]

All right, I'm gonna pop it up real quick.

[Lewis]

Listen to this dork.

[Mike]

I did see this, but I didn't.

[Jimmy]

I can't hear anything.

[Mike]

Desktop.

[Jimmy]

Well, is it, is the, is it muted on the Instagram? The little. I don't know.

[Mike]

This is desktop. It's right there. It says the little microphone. Desktop audio right there.

[Jimmy]

Up, up, up.

[Mike]

No, no, no, no.

[Jimmy]

Just. It. Don't, don't with anything. We're not smart enough. All right. We're not gonna be able to play.

[Lewis]

Yeah, we'll have to work on that later.

[Mike]

But, I mean, there's a desktop audio. It's muted, and that would not be the.

[Jimmy]

No, don't. I'm telling you, Mike, don't with anything. Just click that button. See what that does. All right.

[Lewis]

Yeah, that's how we. That's how we lost the Internet. Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Don't.

[Mike]

Don't know. I told you, we lost the Internet.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

All right. So can you get off the Instagram?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Lewis]

Anyways, Yeah, I mean, there's. There's, you know, dork whistles out there that are telling troops to disobey orders. This guy is. Was a. A captain in the United States army and is telling soldiers, like, if you get disorder, don't do it.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, don't do that.

[Lewis]

Are you kidding? Yeah. That is the first of all. That's the dumbest.

[Jimmy]

And also, I'm telling you, you're in the military just sitting around Garrison doing absolutely nothing.

[Lewis]

It's gonna be fine, man.

[Jimmy]

If they're like, hey, we're sending you a city into the city of civil unrest, you're gonna be like, yes. And if anybody thinks that your infantry guys aren't out there smoking 40 cigarettes a day, unloading Conexes in the heat all day because there's doing a platoon.

[Lewis]

Layout of BII for the million, and you.

[Jimmy]

And you don't think they're gonna be excited to go to Chicago or Portland or Seattle.

[Mike]

You can't send. Right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

If you send. If you send the 82nd or, you know, 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines or. Oh, my God. God, you're screwed.

[Jimmy]

I think they learned people would listen, though.

[Lewis]

Oh, yeah.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

The first time somebody goes loud with the saw, it's over.

[Jimmy]

Yeah. And I mean, like, all right, so let's talk about Chicago before we wrap it up here in a little bit. Let's talk about, like. All right, let's. The Chicago Mike brought up a great point is the Mecca of what is the worst in our country, Right. So let's just highlight it the most. If we build walls around it, and then we're like, now inside these walls is a war zone. Do you displace all people inside Chicago that do not want to partake in it? Like, I don't know, Fallujah? Do you tell them, like, hey, this is going to be a fucking war zone. We are taking back Chicago. Do you displace all them and have put them in football stadiums or.

[Lewis]

So you were there when we did the battle of Solder City where we basically did that. Right.

[Jimmy]

I wasn't in that battle, but.

[Lewis]

Okay, well, you were.

[Jimmy]

You were there when we bagged that.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

You. So you remember we built the wall. We built the wall around Solder City.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

And then we went in and cleaned it out.

[Jimmy]

Well, yeah. Okay. So again, people have to be okay. We're treating it like Baghdad. The worst part of Baghdad.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Is you, you have to go in there and anybody that stays in there, you have to determine that. Now you're going. And guys, this is not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that if we treated it like this, this is how it have to go. Yep. You are staying behind enemy lines. You refusing to be displaced and to. Until this battle is over with and it is going to be a show.

[Mike]

Yeah. And what we've done, our current path is, what they've done is they just relax the police enforcement. So now instead of we won't. If we don't chase any. They're not allowed to run after people anymore in Chicago.

[Jimmy]

Probably for their own safety.

[Mike]

Yeah. Has to be like a high level felony to even get in a foot pursuit. Not a car pursuit. That's done to chase somebody on foot in Chicago. You're not allowed to do it.

[Jimmy]

Is there a reason why?

[Mike]

Because. Yeah, because they don't want the press. They don't want to know. They don't want the press. They were shooting so many people running away. They shot that young kid with the gun. He had a gun in the alley. Yeah. So it wasn't the kid with the guns problem. It was the cops that shouldn't be shooting guys with guns. You don't shoot people with guns anymore in Chicago. Only unless you're in the war.

[Jimmy]

I would love for a Chicago cop.

[Mike]

Yeah. We need a good. Yeah, well, they're. They can't say anything.

[Lewis]

It's liberal.

[Mike]

They'll get. I talked to actually guys from Chicago and it's, it's a war zone. But so in order to stop so much press, the people ignore the app I have that shows the statistics. Everybody just ignores that. You won't see it on the View, you won't see it on cnn. They're not going to talk about it. In order to stop any press from coming to Chicago, they said let's stop having the police enforce all these rules and chasing after people with guns. That way they don't shoot anybody. And the only news it's going to make is if the cop shoots them somebody.

[Jimmy]

Because we don't. Unfortunately. I'M sorry. Liberal white women and the black community, the large majority of them do not care about black on black crime. No, I just made that statistic up, so don't yell at me. But I mean, it is black on black crime in Chicago far outweighs police on community in the entire nation.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I mean, there's a couple of problems with losing Chicago. All right. I mean, we can, we can do without the Bears and the Cubs. I mean, like, I, I'm, I'm fine without the Bears and the Cubs, but the Navy's up there. That's where the Navy basic training is.

[Jimmy]

Are you serious? In Chicago?

[Lewis]

Great Lakes, Illinois? Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Well, is it in Chicago?

[Lewis]

It is right next to Chicago.

[Jimmy]

Okay. It is Build the walls right outside.

[Lewis]

Yeah. So. But also like, there's a reason why Chicago exists and that's because of the trade along the Great Lakes. It's like the people that, the people that say things like, oh, we can do without the entire world, West Coast. No, the. We can't. I want those deep water ports, man. Like, I want access to the Pacific.

[Jimmy]

Amazon doesn't ship same day without.

[Mike]

Think about what we've come to as a country where we actually discuss, instead of doing what's right and enforcing the law. And take. We're talking about, how do we get rid of the people that. That's gone. We've given up on all the people that died In World War II, everybody that fought for this country. We're now going, man, who cares about those guys that died? We lost Chicago.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like, now we lost Memphis. Like, we have gone the opposite direction of everything this country was founded on, which was rule, order, religion and, and being a good person. Everything's gone. The cities is, are gone.

[Lewis]

The problem that there is no, like, let's just build a wall out around them and just leave them in there.

[Mike]

That's obviously we're saying as a joke.

[Lewis]

Yeah. No, but I mean the, the thing that, you know, it sort of illustrates a bigger problem. And the bigger problem is, is that if you keep leaving this unchecked, it's going to keep growing. Because if it works in Chicago, if it works in New York, it's going to be in Tennessee, it's going to be in Tampa, it's going to be in Miami.

[Mike]

It used to be you could, it's. Stay out of a certain part of town. You can't travel in Manhattan. The entire borough where all the money is, where all the high rise, all the big, all the stuff you want to do, pizza, tourist attractions, the stock Market. You can't travel as a normal person. Get on the subway with your little bag and your lunch and go to work. You cannot ignore it. It's around you. It's everywhere. They're shooting heroin on the steps of. Of the. On 34th street in the middle of New york city. Now it's bad in new York. And then they're shitting in the subway. They're. They're assaulting. You can't just get on there and go, I'm just gonna mind my business and I'm gonna go to work today. You can't do it. You can't in an indian normal.

[Jimmy]

I think new yorkers can do it now.

[Mike]

They do it because it's it there. They have to but is eventually they're going to run into the wrong guy that's having the crisis, whatever he's doing, and then they're a victim and they go, oh, that's just a subway in New York. It happens.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yep. Sorry.

[Lewis]

I mean, there's. There's. There's no. The. The only good answer is we can exercise the cancer now and have a. A whole shitload of other problems from the cancer, Radiation treatment, or we can let the cancer kill us.

[Jimmy]

Why don't. Why don't we do like. There's got to be a movie plot out or movie script out there for taking back chicago.

[Mike]

We'll make it.

[Jimmy]

Dude, that would be like. You know that aliens movie? Battlefield Los Angeles battle Los angeles.

[Lewis]

Yeah. I love that.

[Jimmy]

That's a great movie.

[Lewis]

My first, my personal favorite is the assault across the objective at the very end when they're like, okay, hey, the enemy's in retreat. Hey, assault. Yeah, let's go.

[Jimmy]

That they listen to their liaisons and their advisors on how the military infantry platoon works.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

So again, the answer to the p. Comitatus thing is that it's been violated multiple times. And. But at what point? I mean, the right writing on the paper, the right verbiage, like the right explanation. Explanation is the reason why it doesn't violate it. You know, I.

[Mike]

It's a shame. Or that to that point, it's a shame that we've let this country get to that point. It really.

[Jimmy]

Okay, round robin. Round robin. Absolute answers, yes or no. Start with jimmy. If you had to pick one. There's no perfect scenario because like I said, it's subjective and nobody's gonna agree on where the line is. If you had to pick one. Military or no military ever deployed on u. S. Soil.

[Lewis]

Military.

[Jimmy]

Military. Okay, Mike.

[Mike]

Yeah, military.

[Jimmy]

Me too. And because you need law and order and because we allow society defanged and declawed our law enforcement. Now we're seeing. We're seeing the reach of Karens and white liberal women and what they, you know, what they've done. And now you're. We've been in this game for a long time, and I've seen, seen just in my nine years of being a cop. When I came in, those guys are gone. It is a new era in their.

[Mike]

Watch the View. If you can stomach the view for 20 minutes, watch. They can say anything they want. Any accusation they want, they can say whatever they want.

[Lewis]

I have more faith in the institutions of the United States army and the United States Marine Corps than I have in pretty much anybody else. That's just how I feel. So if you unleash the army or.

[Mike]

The Marine Corps, I just wish there was a better way.

[Lewis]

I wish there was, too, but if I had to. If you. If you're asking me, I'm talking about.

[Mike]

For, like, overthrowing the government, obviously.

[Lewis]

Jesus.

[Mike]

Overthrow the government. Like, there has to be. I, I get it. Like, the national police thing is scary. And, And I joke. Drop a bomb. That, That's, That's. That would be like, eliminate those, Those people. The people that are actually taking over. The ones that are.

[Jimmy]

Those people.

[Mike]

The ones that are breaking in the police department, taking over city blocks, assaulting people. Antifa, like, wearing masks. That's when I say, boom, dude.

[Lewis]

Well, but overall, good. Yeah. Antifa is a. Is a domestic terrorist organization.

[Jimmy]

Confirmed. Oh, yeah. One of you guys sent me something that Antifa had a plot to kill the president.

[Lewis]

I. Well, I think they tried twice.

[Jimmy]

Wait, what?

[Lewis]

Well, he, he did get shot.

[Jimmy]

Was that an Antifa member?

[Lewis]

I'm. I'm pretty sure it was.

[Jimmy]

I mean, he's a.

[Mike]

The guy in Palm beach was nuts.

[Lewis]

Yeah. I don't know who he was affiliated with. That guy told us he was like. He was fighting in Ukraine or something. I don't know.

[Mike]

But, I mean, a joke. But to get to the point that the military has to get involved is a sad, sad thought for this country that we have to get that we're that far gone for everything that everybody that died, everybody that went out there and, and protected. But then there's the whole other side of conspiracy that there. All those wars were fought for other reasons.

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah.

[Lewis]

Smelly Butler said war is a racket.

[Mike]

And you start, you know, you start diving down that hole and it's deep. But if you, if you stick to, like, the fundamentals of what we were founded on, the Bible, and. And being good people, raising your kids properly. If we just got back to that. I know. It's unfortunate, though, that's the simplest answer, man.

[Jimmy]

Reset.

[Mike]

That's the simplest answer.

[Jimmy]

But they're able to make. They're literally able to make a movie franchise called the Purge, where we are so bad as a society that now, one night a week, everybody gets it out, or one night a year, everybody gets it out. And then the rest the other 364 days are more peace and more low statistics than anything else, which is a wild thing to be able to base a movie franchise off this problem. But, okay, round robin, last one Annual Purge or no Purge.

[Lewis]

I. I would. I would love the Purge because I would kill a lot of people.

[Jimmy]

No, wait, so yes or no?

[Lewis]

Oh, I'm game for the Purge. Bring it on.

[Jimmy]

No, no, I'm also not psychopath.

[Mike]

If you're trying to call in and I got somebody, call me from a no caller id. That's not happening. Oh, yeah, I'm not answering a block number.

[Jimmy]

You have to kind of. We have to be able to screen who calls because we want people that are going to engage us and challenge us and can't have anybody. Typically not at the. The end of the show if it says spam.

[Lewis]

Likely.

[Mike]

No, it was no caller id, which means they star six, seven.

[Jimmy]

Their number.

[Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jimmy]

Is there any. Oh, so let's talk about. Let's talk about the show, our intentions. And last time I said keep the Super Chats for Thursday. And what I meant by that was we don't want to make the broadcast show about Super Chats. However, if you do, if you want us to read your Super Chat, we. We can't read the comment section like the, The. We just can't stay on it. But if you want to get a point out there, but you, like, don't want to call in, but you kind of want your point to be read, you're going to have to super Chat it because that's the only way we can decipher. Because we would. If we didn't have Super Chats, we'd just be sitting there reading comments the whole time, staring at the TV until we found one that we wanted to talk about. So absolutely, you can send Super Chats in and that's the only way we're, you know, we're really going to know what to say or what to talk about is. And I see there is one. But I.

[Lewis]

It says, can I read it? Yeah, it says sending love to my 11 Bravo brothers.

[Jimmy]

Nice.

[Lewis]

And that is from Douglas. D, O, O, G, L, A, Z. Yeah.

[Mike]

Coolest thing. You know, I was. Obviously, I've done things, but that was. I've always. I'm glad I. I did that. Glad I joined the military. I'm glad I. I only did three years. Didn't do anything cool. Jumped out of airplanes, but just the fact alone, and I always respect guys that, you know, you join, you. You do that. It's an honorable thing. And beside my kids and, you know, the standard things you're supposed to say you're proud of, I. I think that is most honorable.

[Lewis]

So I. I've. I've had three kids in my dms, and when I say kids, easy, easy, easy.

[Jimmy]

We got.

[Mike]

We got a whole task force that covers that.

[Lewis]

I knew you guys were going, when I say kids, I mean get kids in delayed entry getting ready to go.

[Mike]

Kids getting ready, probably.

[Lewis]

Well, if you had let me finish, Mike, you stuttered.

[Mike]

Clip it.

[Jimmy]

11:54.

[Mike]

That kids in my DM was very long and drawn out. I want to. I want to watch it back.

[Lewis]

Okay, fine.

[Jimmy]

All right.

[Lewis]

Anyways, anyway, so I've had three young men in. Jesus Christ. I can't win.

[Jimmy]

I get what you're saying. They're young, crucial. The story, Mike, starts every story with the race of the person. Why does it matter?

[Lewis]

So, and they're all getting ready. Two of them getting ready to go in the Marines, one's getting ready to go in the Army. And they were like, it's so awesome to listen to guys who are like, hey, conventional guys are very, very important. And they do a really awesome job, and you can do a lot of really cool shit in the infantry, army, or Marines. And I have never regretted a day in my life putting that uniform on for 10 years and going down range. The best friends that I ever had in my life, I met in the Army. It has absolutely been the vehicle for finding the best people ever. They. We all have that same thing in common. Look, it's different now. I know it is. But I love. I love the infantry. And if I can use this as a segue, Peach and I are doing a new podcast, style, where he and I are going to talk about the differences between tactics between Army, Marine, Infantry. We've got some corpsmen lined up. Corpsman and medics. They're going to talk about what's the difference.

[Jimmy]

You and Peach are going to go in on a podcast.

[Lewis]

Yeah, well, not a podcast, but it's more like we're going to probably use the guys on the ground.

[Jimmy]

Oh, you gotta. Like an episode.

[Lewis]

Yeah, well, yeah, but it's gonna be like, hey, we're gonna put this together and we're gonna make this like a.

[Jimmy]

Can you go tell the Spectrum guy that it's not 12 yet? We're in the middle of the broadcast. Yeah, yeah, hold on a second.

[Lewis]

Yeah, so. And, and so my wife was.

[Mike]

Like 10 minutes.

[Lewis]

So it's. It's always an adventure here. My wife was just listening to it and she's like, we were discussing machine gun theory and she was like, that is really, really interesting. Like the fact that there is such a big difference and it's based on culture and mission and doctrine and everything else. And I love the infantry. I love it. It's the best thing I ever did my life, bar none.

[Mike]

Couple messages. I got a guy called in, he said, watch the Agenda documentary by Curtis Bowers. That's one. And then I got another message.

[Lewis]

24 hours.

[Jimmy]

That's Jack.

[Mike]

Before the show ends, I wanted to send love to you guys. I'm a prior active infantry Marine and active cop. And I love the way the show is going.

[Jimmy]

Oh, one thing we're gonna do too.

[Mike]

Is remember the numbers. Pin somebody. I saw in the comments at the very top of your comments, that number to call into. I need you, though, if you're going to call. I have to have like a text conversation. I'm doing like nine things. That's one of them. To make sure that it's legit. We don't have some calling in, saying off colored things or anything like that.

[Jimmy]

So like, Robin, you.

[Mike]

Yeah, we're gonna have to have like a quick text conversation. This is what I want to talk about. Then you welcome to call in and go on the air.

[Jimmy]

One thing we're gonna do as a podcast is we are going to start doing more live shows, less production and more just us getting there. It's really. Live shows are super exciting. Whether or not they'll be televised on YouTube live is a different story. That's a whole nother animal to bring a production side to it rather than just a live side. You know, a couple knuckleheads can drag some PAs and some, some mics and, and have a good live show. Whether or not it's broadcasted live on YouTube is a whole nother animal. So. But we're gonna start doing that. Dude, I'm telling you, vfws is where it's at, man.

[Mike]

Drink a lot too.

[Jimmy]

Those dudes will pack a house, man. They're. They're a good crowd. So if you got like, you know, if you're like, hey, I got a vfw. It's very active. If you're like, I got a. A union hall, a PBA hall, an FOP hall. That's very active. And, you know, you're like, you guys need to come here and have a live show.

[Mike]

We're still doing Philly, right?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, Philly. Philly's in October. I think it's October 18th.

[Mike]

October 18th.

[Jimmy]

It's a charity, so tickets are 50 bucks a pop.

[Mike]

But we'll post that information here about this week. Yeah, so I'm gonna see Sal while we're up there.

[Jimmy]

Is Sal coming to the show?

[Mike]

No. Well, he's got a court.

[Jimmy]

Can't leave the state.

[Mike]

No, he's got an ankle monitor. He's got a. A court date on the 6th. And we're hoping. We're praying to God that they finally wake up and dismiss the case so we'll know more on October 6th. I talked to him on the way here. Good spirits sends his love. Poor guys going through it.

[Jimmy]

So, that being said, guys, that is the broadcast.

[Mike]

That's it.

[Jimmy]

Again, every Monday, we're gonna do this. We got the Spectrum guy here for the Internet that showed up before.

[Mike]

Right. Yelling in this room, yo.

[Jimmy]

So we'll end a little bit early so we can go catch him before Mike pissed him off and he leaves. But again, guys, thank you so much for tuning in every Monday. And then in the future, we'll probably do every Wednesday, Friday, and then, boom, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

[Mike]

So I need gas money.

[Jimmy]

Well, yeah, we'll see you guys on the Thursday night squadcast Thursdays for the boys. 8pm Live on YouTube. Just like this. No format, just heckling with the guy. So we'll see you then, guys.

[Mike]

Appreciate it.

[Jimmy]

JV team for life.