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Pam Luke
Welcome. This is Pam Luke and as part of our Ortho podcast recording live at the 2025 AFAS annual meeting, I'm here with the IFAS award winner finalists, Drs. Carlos Alran and Dr. Marianne Kulin, who are the winners for their paper titled predictive model for AOS response in total ankle replacement. Dr. Will My symptoms get better after the ankle replacement?
Dr. Carlos Alran
Thank you, Pam.
Pam Luke
Congratulations on the award. As for our listeners who didn't have the pleasure of being in the paper session and getting to hear your abstract presentation, my first question is if you can help us summarize the background for your paper and what your findings were regarding total ankle replacement.
Dr. Carlos Alran
Okay, so this is like two papers to be honest. So it was too much to put in one paper, so we divided it into two. We started with the trends of the pros, which is the title of the paper, Analysis of variation of the Problems in Total Anchor Prosthesis over Time. So we were analyzing in this paper how the Pros behave in 15 year time and we saw that the AOS score doesn't change after one year. That's all that patients improve up to one year. And that's when we realized if we know that we can do a predictive model of it, we can know which are the patients will benefit the most of the ankle replacement. So what we did after that, we calculated, we looked for the evidence and looked for the MCID of the AOS score. That way we categorized the patients whether they were doing good or bad based on the MCID of the AOS score. And then we built a predictive model with all the variables that are in the cohort study. We're doing the other cohort study. So we take advantage of that data in order to do this study. So basically we did a lot of multivariable logistic regression with a lot of different analysis and our final results were the patients with the higher AOS score. That means patients who are doing the worst at the beginning are the ones who benefit the most. But we didn't stop there. We knew that we needed something a little bit more precise. So we calculated like a threshold for the AOS score at the beginning, at the enrollment to know which patients from the beginning to which point they will benefit, who were the ones. So we calculated it Based on. We prioritized the specificity to know where the patients were benefited the most and try to include only patients who have a meaningful improvement. We calculated threshold. It was an AOS score of equally or more than 63 points. And we also saw that patient with instability etiology had a lot of improvement as well.
Pam Luke
Great. And so you've already done that part where you've taken the cohort that you thought would benefit the most and then applied it to them and they did demonstrate that they were benefiting the most.
Dr. Carlos Alran
Yes, maybe.
Dr. Marianne Kulin
I think it's good to add that we also, we really. I think once you're a foot and ankle surgeon, you really want to know what you can tell your patients. And by that, if you have those values, it's nice that you can tell them a little bit more information about what their outcomes will be after one year.
Pam Luke
And that's great. This is all really helpful information. These are kind of the studies that we want to hear at these meetings to really bring back research to clinical application. So thank you for sharing all that. And I think these are really important studies. That is good work. And it's sharing to our surgeons for, I guess, for the population, for the cohort that, you know, you definitely want to include the ones that would benefit from the most. But for maybe the people who are beneath or just below or just miss that mark, what would you say to, based on your data and your information that you found from the study, how would you guide clinicians about using that information?
Dr. Carlos Alran
So thank you for that question. We did an extra analysis also, and we also show it here in the meeting. So we also analyzed patients who were like, poor responders, so to speak. And we saw, and we subdivided the AOS score, the 18 different levels it has, and we compare it from the beginning and compare it to one or two years. And we saw that they improved in all of their scores meaningfully. The effect size was pretty high in between 0.46 to 0.74. That's quite a lot. Early responders did it even better. But we can see here, and one of our final conclusions is that all the patients will benefit, but the patients who will benefit the most are the ones who are doing the worst at the beginning. So it doesn't mean that the patients will not. Some patients will not benefit from the ankle replacement. Yes, they will. All the patients. But the message is who will benefit the most. So it's not like if you get an ankle replacement, it's not going to work for you. Probably it will if you have the end stage ankle arthritis, but if you are not, if you're doing not that bad, you should probably wait a little until your symptoms get worse. Great.
Pam Luke
Thank you guys so much and thank you for listening.
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Episode Title: Meet the 2025 IFFAS Award Winner: Predictive Model for AOS Response in Total Ankle Replacement
Podcast: The AOFAS Orthopod-Cast
Date: December 24, 2025
Host: Pam Luke, for the AOFAS Podcast Committee
Guests: Dr. Carlos Alran and Dr. Marianne Kulin (2025 IFAS Award winners)
Theme:
This episode spotlights a groundbreaking study by Drs. Alran and Kulin, which developed and validated a predictive model for patient outcomes—using the Ankle Osteoarthritis Scale (AOS)—after Total Ankle Replacement (TAR). The discussion dives into how this model can inform patient selection and surgeon-patient discussions about who benefits most from TAR.
Dr. Carlos Alran [01:20]:
"...the patients with the higher AOS score, that means patients who are doing the worst at the beginning, are the ones who benefit the most."
Dr. Marianne Kulin [03:11]:
"Once you're a foot and ankle surgeon, you really want to know what you can tell your patients... you can tell them a little bit more information about what their outcomes will be after one year."
Dr. Carlos Alran [03:59]:
"All the patients will benefit, but the patients who will benefit the most are the ones who are doing the worst at the beginning. So it doesn't mean that the patients will not, some patients will not benefit from the ankle replacement. Yes, they will. All the patients."
| Timestamp | Segment & Content | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:27 | Host introduces guests Dr. Alran and Dr. Kulin, IFAS Award winners | | 01:09 | Dr. Alran summarizes the study’s rationale, design, and the creation of the predictive model | | 01:45 | Findings: Baseline AOS score predicts benefit; patients with instability etiology also do well | | 03:11 | Dr. Kulin on clinical significance: empowers conversations with patients | | 03:59 | Discussion on “borderline” patients: everyone benefits, but degree depends on pre-op severity | | 04:58 | Host thanks the guests and wraps up the content segment |
This episode gives a practical, evidence-backed framework for surgeons as they select TAR candidates and counsel patients—a clear example of AOFAS’s mission to connect clinical research to daily practice.