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This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the uk. I'm Zing Singh. And I'm Simon Jack. And together we host Good Bad Billionaire, the podcast exploring the lives of some of the world's richest people. In the new season, we're setting our sights on some big names. Yep, LeBron James and Martha Stewart, to name just a few. And as always, Simon and I are trying to decide whether we think they're good, bad or just another billionaire. That's good. Bad Billionaire from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Tea? Oh, thank you. Least I can do for the woman of the hour. But I'm not finished yet. I'll have a lot more to say about how to fix our water mess in my submission to the new Independent Water Commission. Go, Mum. And watch out for such a water. Now, I've got an hour or so free before I need to be back in the dairy. And I promised Henry I'd help you with the kids. Is he still asleep? Yep. I'm not surprised. He was with me until late into the night when this last kid was born. Wouldn't move no matter what I said. I can imagine. Supposed to be taking him and Jack to the Green later for the Bulls morris dancing experience. Sounds fun. Yeah, I doubt he'll be up, to be honest. So there's a ticket going if you want it. I'd love to. Only your father and I are planning to go and see the cricket in a while. Really? Yep. It's the first match in the new division against Brampton. We thought the team might need some support, despite the new captain not leading us on the pitch. That's very good of you, Beau. Well, more than anything, it's something nice to do together, so dad doesn't think the campaigning has swallowed me whole. Gather round, everyone. We'll soon be starting our Easter Day morris dancing experience. Now, if you haven't already got a ticket, I'm the man to see. And tickets include lunch at the Bull. There you go. The winds can just hide the bells if they want. You got everything you need? Yeah, I think so. Although we could always do with more punters. You'll be seeing the church crowd heading back this way after the family service. See if you can get them to buy a ticket. Good thinking. Children look so cute. It's a good start, isn't it? Yeah. We just need to make sure it doesn't peter out. So here's Jazzer's hat. He's going to love that. Couldn't you fit any more on It. I am busier than a busy thing. Kenton. And I still found time to make his hat look nice with spring flowers and everything. Oh, talk about ungrateful. I'm sorry. No, you're right. It looks. It's very fetch. Don't. What? You're not joining Jazzer? No. Although we have simplified the moves. It's quite straightforward, really. But I'm on, well, I'm on ticket duties. Straightforward, is it now? I heard you couldn't get the hang of it. Oddly. Well, just you remember, the more tickets you sell, the more covers we have for the pub lunch. You know we've lost 30 with the Edgeley dancers coming down with the lurgy. How could I forget, my sweet? I won't let you. Exactly. Nathan Booth just rolled up with his latest amour. You got a good turnout for the first session. Jaz. You okay? Is that my hat? Yeah. Nice, isn't it? I added some spring flowers. There's no way I'm wet or not. Why not? Because I'm in this get up with bells on my ankles. Jolene, you want to get rid of your armor manhood in one day. It's not that bad. You're not helping, Kenton. Nathan's going to take one look at me in that hat and he won't. He'll be busy impressing his girl. And Bert says if he showed his face later and all. Only if he pays. That's good. The more the merrier. I don't want any of these guys heckling me. Heckling? Why? Because no self respecting Scotsman would do this. And that hat. Jazza, we've been over this. You're doing us a great favor. And you're getting a very good return from it and giving a service for the community. Besides which, it's been established that you are, in fact, as English as we are. Shh. That's a fact I don't need every day, you know. Of course. Sorry. I knew I should have wore a mask or something. Oh, don't be daft. You'll be fine. Go on. Right, you go on. Chaz. Hi. Oh, hi. Oh, didn't I tell you, Zainab? They're so cute. Actually, yeah, they really are. Oh, look at that one. Oh, Pat, can we come in and pet them? No, you're all right. Actually, Chelsea, I'm afraid we can't get too close. I was in there to check. The nannies have got enough to eat and drink, but they need to be left alone with their kids for now. Natasha said we were gonna have a pen in the orchard or something like close to the tea room? Yeah, yeah, we're looking into it. It'd be so perfect over the holidays with it being so quiet for so long. People will come just to, like, see them. Oh, we'll make a pen and we'll put in Jack's old mini trampoline and a few pallets. Goats love clambering and jumping about. People can watch them playing, but there'll be no touching. Sounds good. When it comes to me and animals. Look but don't touch is my policy. I was looking forward to picking them up and maybe feeding them. Whoa, steady on, Dr. Doolittle. They're so cute. It's completely understandable, Chelsea. Understandable, but off limits, I'm afraid. But you'll still get to see them. You can pop up here anytime. Yeah, I suppose. And maybe you can help with them once they're a bit older. Oh, yeah, I'd love that. Well, you have to ask Henry Zaynab. I hope your brother wasn't too disappointed yesterday. He stayed as long as he could and nothing happened as soon as he left. We had about three kids within the hour, so he said. Apparently he was on a video call with Henry as soon as he got home. So he got to see some of these cuties. No doubt he'll be around today again, of course. And Mum and Dad said to just let them know if he's getting in the way. Oh, hardly. We love having him around. He's not afraid to get stuck in with Henry when it comes to looking after them. How's that work, then? Sorry, Charles. I guess friends get first dibs. And he's so good with animals. He's got an instinct and lots of general knowledge. Oh, don't. His head's already big enough. Right then, if we've got no petting to do, I'd better get off to the green. I said I'd support Jazza for his dance experience in case no one shows up. Oh, no, I heard tickets have been selling. Well, we'll be along later. All right, see you there, then. Bye. Bye. Very good of Natasha to allow Chelsea a half day. She's busy with the move this week. Yeah, yeah. She's trying to cover everything. Summer orchard, the tea room, the twins, the move. I got the twins on Wednesday and any day they need, really. I must remind her. I'm going to go to the house once I'm done at the dairy, see if I can get some cleaning done. As you hear. Anyway, we should make some space on the farm so we can store more of your things close by. Oh, it's okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's no bother. It probably make life easier. Well, actually, the boys and I are going to move in with Tom and Natasha once they've settled. Really? Yeah. To be dark, you'd be packed in like sardines over there. Yeah, it won't be that bad. I mean, apart from essentials, all our stuff's already boxed up and we've agreed that the boys will share Jack's room until we find somewhere permanent to rent. Sounds like you decided. No, no, no. If you're not comfortable here, it's the exact opposite. Mum. I think I'm too comfortable on the farm. I'll never get my act together. And seriously, look for a place if we stay. Luckily, we found some photos of my late grandparents to replace the ones we lost. But the wedding photos. Oh, man. Yeah, I can imagine. But what a brilliant idea to recreate them. The only thing I don't get is how you're going to do it without your mum knowing. Yeah, it'll be a bit of a challenge, but nothing we can't handle. So Dad's fine because he knows. But if you ask Mum to model for some photos for your beautician business. Oh, right. Yeah. Then she'll think that's why she's dressing up. So, what do you think? Well, yeah. Yeah, why not? But I need to do some research. Great. And I'll have a look through her clothes and see what she'll be wearing. Cool. Right, now you have to do this morris dancing thing with me. What? Never. Oh, yeah. Come on. I already got our tickets. It's worth it just to make fun of jazz. Ciao. Excellent work. Right, left, right, hop. Left, right, left, hop. Right, hop. Left, hop. Feet together and jump. I think you deserve a round of applause. Thanks, everybody. Well done. You've got them easing out of your hand. I don't know. I've been getting a few funny looks. Has anybody said anything? Like what? You know, about me portraying my heritage. Cultural appropriation and all that. You're not appropriating anything. You're English, remember? So nobody said anything? Oh, not even a peep? I promise you, not a peep. Not even Nathan. No. No jazz. No one's bothered. Well, this one day. Ken, you'll have to do the next session. I need to get him. What? I'll be back. No, no. Jazz. Not. Not jazz. Jazz. Jazz. Huh? Here's the change you needed. Was it just pound coins at 50ps? Oy. Where's Jaz going? I have no idea. Oh, you went. Upset him, have you? No, no. In fact, everyone's been having a great time. Time? Well, they're ready for the next dance. You're going to have to step in. But who's going to man the ticket desk? Oh, I suppose it'll have to be me, but he better get back soon. I got Tracy and Lillian rushed off their feet inside, so get that hat on and go do your thing. Also, it's the same again. Right 11. Right 4. Left, right, left, hop, right hop. That's the left mark, Ken. Done left foot. Feet together and jumped. That was nice. Well done. Thanks. That was some interesting footwork there, Captain. Thank you as well. Thankfully, that's us done for the day. Oh, no, I don't think so. No, my darling, we've had a queue for tickets while you've been hopping, skipping and jumping. Or. Or trying to. Yeah, at least two more sessions, I'd say. Jack's over there with his friend from school, poised and ready. Really? To be honest, I don't think I have the stamina for any more love. Oh, no, you have to. We bought tickets. Yeah. Worry ye not? What? Why is he wearing a coat? I'm ready for the next dance, people. Wow. You look very Scottish. He seems to have forgot that. There's nothing like a kilt to remind him. Hat, please, Kenton. Oh, you like the hat now? Right. My kilt says Scotsman louder than that hat can say anything else. Well, you've certainly got their attention. Come on, Helen. He didn't appear to stand on the sideline. All right, man. Look, I better head inside. Well, I hope he doesn't lift his knees too high. Why? Well, you know, if he's a true Scotsman, he came to. There are children present. My point exactly. Follow me. In 3, 2, 1, in. Right, left, right, hop. Left, right, left, right, hop. Left, hop. Together. There you go. Now, tell me, what is bothering you? Is it work? Is it the cricket team? Is it something else? Is there a box for all of the above? Oh, really? Go on, then. Where shall we start? Well, I suppose the upside of not having many people attend the match yesterday is that they didn't see us get hammered. But luckily, Pat and Tony were there. Oh, don't. I felt bad enough as it is. Although, to be fair, it was good of them to show up for the team in the village. Or did they want to be there watching, putting everyone off their game? Tony and Pat. I know, but it would be funny if that's what they were doing, wouldn't it? I'm not sure it would be. Anyway, I'm sure they weren't. The challenge now will be to keep spirits up for the next match. The last thing you want is for team morale to take a nosedive. They're notoriously difficult to get out of. The psychology of losing in sports. Do we need to go into this now? Well, you are team captain and I'm director of cricket, but if you're not bothered. I called you here because I wanted to get out of my head for a bit. Yes, it is a rather small, dark, cramped little space. Huh? Your head. Oh, why did I bother? Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You. You clearly do have a lot on your mind. I can see this was a bad idea. No, no, I've. I've had my head in books, revising. Honestly, I'm just getting a little bit too excited about being out with you, that's all. Oh. Ha, ha. It's not the camera thing at work that's still bugging you, is it? Oh, yeah. Oh, Freddy. I just want to know who planted it. Did Vince say any more on Saturday? No. I mean, you saw him. He was there for Mum's birthday. But he's so distracted with his own mum. Oh, yeah. At least her operation went well. Yeah. Vince isn't sure when she'll be out of hospital, though apparently she's been quite high maintenance. Well, it won't be easy for her. Maybe once she's home, he'll have more time to think about work. Yeah, but how long's that going to take? A hip replacement is no small op. No, we heard about the police warning of animal rights activists in the area. And he shrugged it off. He thought the camera was probably a prank of one of the lads. I mean, whatever the situation with his mum, I'm not convinced he's going to take it very seriously. So how are you managing at Casey Meats? The number of times I've been asked that, Saskia, Honestly, really. Me mam and practically everyone who knows her. Rex. Rex? Oh, just a local lad. He's on the cricket team with you? Yeah, He's a pig man. Not that big an operation, but probably not worth us bothering with. So you've joined the local cricket team? Yeah. Look, I know what you're thinking. I'm not thinking anything, Rochelle. I'm just helping them out and getting closer to the boss. Anyway, the point is, I keep my head down at Casey's and carry on. I know what I'm there for. Good. That's good. I must say, I was surprised at first that you chose to get in somewhere this close to your mum. How is she these days? She's fine. Yeah, she's always fine, isn't she? She's with someone nice enough bloke. Always lands on our feet, does Mom. Everyone in the village really likes her. Everyone always loves her, don't they? Rochelle? She's fine. We're fine. She hasn't asked why you're staying with her. She thinks I'm a drifter who comes and goes. Saskia. She doesn't think anything of it. You haven't said anything to her? Like what? I'm not stupid. I know, love. I haven't said anything to anyone about anything. Good. Sometimes it can be hard when it comes to family. Yeah. Actually, I thought you might not show today. Why? I said I would. I wouldn't leave you hanging, Saskia. No, just. It sounded like you might have had other plans. It happens when you come back home. You get involved in things you didn't intend to get off track. And that's okay, isn't it? So long as we're honest with ourselves and each other. Mam's house isn't home. Home is with you lot. Right? Good. Because once we're done, you probably won't be able to hang about there anymore. It's burning bridges for sure. Yeah, but I know from what you've told me since we've known each other, those bridges were practically burned anyway. Too right. That's the only reason I ask. I want to know you're okay, Saskia. Neither my man's house, the village, nor the people there have a hold on me. I'm as committed to the cause as I've always been. Another? Thanks, but I'm not finished with this one yet. Okay, I'll wait. So Mum liked her present, then? Can't go wrong with jewelry. Yeah. Thanks for choosing that, sis. I didn't have time to think what to get her. It's fine. It was nice to spend the day with her, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to help with the VE Day tour. She's organized, but I just didn't want to commit and then let her down. She said Chelsea's been a real help. And Brad has been doing some research on the old photographs, so. Yeah. Sounds like it's going to be a great tour. Excellent. So what do you think you're going to do? I mean, you could speak to the workers. Well, although I'm not sure that's a good plan. After what happened last time when you sacked Jason? Yeah, yeah. Ending up with offal in your pockets. No. Maybe it's best you don't ask them outright. Too late. You've asked already. Yeah, Today, of course, they all played innocent. Well, they would. Oh, yeah, exactly. I mean, I need to get to the bottom of this. But it is totally possible that they're saying they know nothing. Because they do know nothing. And now I've mentioned it, they're going to think I'm accusing them, which I'm not. And I don't want them scuppering the Academy. Visit next week. Cheer up, Freddie. Helen. Escaping on your own for a cheeky drink? I wish. Or maybe meeting someone for a hot date. If only I would not be doing it here at our local. Good thinking. No, it's much more mundane, I'm afraid, Mum. Duties. Jack left his jacket here yesterday after the Morris dancing experience. I'm here to pick it up before I get him from some laser thing in Frobisham. Oh, yeah, cool. The place on the high street. I know it. Yep. Well, I do hope you get some time for yourself in the holidays, now that Jack's got an active social life too. Anyway, I'll see you guys later. Oh, to be back playing lasers with your mates. I'm sorry, Freddie. You called me out to try and help and I'm not being helpful at all. Don't worry, it's just work. It's just every time I feel like I'm making progress and you're being taken seriously, something like this happens and I feel like I'm back to square one. That is not true. It might feel like it sometimes, but you've done really well to make a place for yourself at the abattoir. I mean, let's be honest, it's not exactly a natural fit for you. No, but Vince respects you. I can see it. And no way is he a pushover. He's a sharp judge of character. I know, but I have a position of responsibility. I can't just let this matter lie because Vince is distracted. Or because I want to be friends with the workers. So they didn't say anything? Nope. They just jested about it. You know, the whole I'm Spartacus thing. Maybe because they're all happy to be getting double time on a bank holiday. Basically, they've stuck together and said nothing. Which, like I said, could be the truth, but I definitely put their backs up, that much was clear. You did choose your words carefully. What do you think? I'm just saying. No, I Was very careful, but firm. I mean, you're always going to get some sort of flak when you're in a managerial position. Which I'm prepared for. But, you know, if they use it against me when the Farmers and Academy people visit, well, then maybe I have shot myself in the foot. How are the of us? Good. Everyone's fine. Do they know you were coming to see me? I didn't mention it this time. I asked why. Of course you can. There's no lies between us, Rochelle. I didn't mention it because Sam, Todd and a few of the others still have some concerns. They have reason, wouldn't you agree? Yes, but we're not messing about, are we? No. We put everything on the line to get people to listen. Look at them. All these people in here sleepwalking into oblivion with their eyes wide open. But they don't see. They won't see. Not unless we do something. Shake things up so we're all wide awake. Yeah, and that comes at a cost. Everyone's putting their life, work, family at risk. Because we stand for the voiceless who can't see. This is a vegan cafe. But simply eating vegan food doesn't get the animals off the assembly line. You've seen that barbaric killing box yourself now, I presume. Yeah, when I was shorn mound. We need to get in there. Well, I'll do my best to get the camera in there. Did you bring it? No. Oh, I. I thought you were gonna give me a new camera. I think we're past that. Rochelle, you have access to the abattoir, and that's what we need. We need to get in, handcuff ourselves to the equipment, and disrupt the bastards at the heart of the operation. Get our message out loud and clear. But I don't have access yet. I'm making progress, but it might take some time. They don't just let anyone in. Depending how many of us are doing this. Look, Rochelle, you take care of your part, that's all. That's when we work best. Everyone doing their part. You get us in there, and I'll take care of the rest. Gosh, I can't believe it's already past six. Look, let me buy you dinner. Fallon's got some great stuff on the menu. You know what? Yes, please. It's a bank holiday. And I've had enough of studying for the day. Even for my assignment that's due in this week. Oh, I'm sorry. I've hogged the whole conversation. No, no, it's been nice. You and me hanging out. We don't get to do it that often. Yeah, and it's better when we're not living under the same roof. Oh, so true. I usually wanted to throttle you when we live together. Yeah, ditto. Should we have some wine too? Why not? Do you know, maybe you're thinking about all of this wrong. Maybe it is what Vin says, just a stupid prank and you're overstressing. Yeah, but Lily, I know these people. A prank would be a pig's ear in your pocket, nicking someone's lunch, or just doing something to get them in trouble. But forking out for a camera? This lot wouldn't spend a penny on a prank. I just don't see them doing that for laughs. Now, I'm gonna have to keep my eyes and ears peeled. If I can check this off my list as a harmless joke, no one will be happier than me. But if it's something more, I need to know, and sooner rather than later. Right? You need to keep me posted. Of course. Yeah. And I will get there. It just might take a little bit. Michelle. Hi. Is Joy with you? Helen? No, I'm with friend. What are you doing here? Just grabbing a quick coffee before I pick up my son from a birthday do. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Hi, I'm Helen. We live in the same village. Yeah, Helen's more Mam's friend. Really? Great. Yeah. Joy and I are neighbours. For a little while longer at least. I'm trying to find a new place and if I could take Joy with me, I would. We should make a move. Sure. It was a nice meeting you, Helen. Yeah, you too. And you might want to hurry. They'll be closed soon. Yes. Good. Thanks. Bye. That was bad. Was it? Yes. She works at the organic farm in the village. They keep livestock and she makes cheese and stuff. She's seen you with us now. We should lay low for a bit. No, we can't lose momentum. Besides, she clearly has so much on her plate. I bet she won't remember. You think? Yes. Maybe I could come back with you guys. It'll make it easier if I'm not in the village. Like I said, Rochelle. Absolutely. But first we need to get everyone on board. Now we have a proper plan of action, I'm sure they'll be more sympathetic. So let's see how it works out, eh? If we get some newbies, maybe you can come back with their mise. Any tensions? If you think that's best. I do. Focus, please. Right now, you need to get us into that killing Box. Nothing else matters. Well, that was a good session, wasn't it? Yeah. Freddie, it was good. Here. Some knee pads were left over by the bench. Oh, thanks. And thanks for helping to pack up, too. Everyone seemed to rush off tonight. Even Rex, who usually sticks around to help. I didn't even see him leave. Must have had somewhere to be. Yeah, well, clearly. Right, you answer that. I'll put the equipment away. Yeah, okay. It's just a message. You have one new message. Rochelle, it's Saskia. Just checking in, as we agreed. Any progress on the matter at work? I want us to get moving on this before we lose momentum, so keep me posted. Right. All done. Great. And thanks for the pointers with game too. No problem. Your batting is really coming on. You've got much more control. Well, speaking of progressing, I was wondering if I could maybe shadow the trimmers next week. Wow, you really are keen, aren't you? But look, you know, I've got this academy visit next week. Loads of local farmers coming along too, so I'm just a bit snowed under with stuff at the moment. As I say, just. Just give it a bit more time. I only want to shadow them. No, no, no. I know, Rachelle. Really, I do. And believe me, it is on my list. But it's quite a long list at the moment, so I'm going to have to be honest and say it's probably not going to happen anytime soon. Sorry. You're all right. Done. Your fruit ball and vases are washed. Shall I dry them? Oh, yes, please, Joy. And then I can get them out the house when Tom and Natasha bring their stuff over. Right. Thank you so much for your help, Joy. You only popped in to say hello. It's a pleasure. Although not really a pleasure because I wish you were staying. Do you really need to clean the kitchen again? It's not been used since the builders fitted it. Yeah, I know, but workmen leave handprints and little piles of dust where they drill into the walls and, well, no matter how many times I think it's all done, I spot something else. Oh, I know. It's the same over at mine. Have you found anywhere you like for you and the boys? No, but wherever we end up will be the right one for us, I'm sure. Of course it will. Only we won't be neighbours. No, but we'll always be friends. And we'll still pop over to each other's houses. Look at me getting all emotional when you haven't even moved out yet. I know. Just pray we do, though. What was that? Oh, don't worry, it's just Henry crashing around upstairs. He's moving the last bits from his room into his brother's. How are they taking it, having to share a room? Well, Jack doesn't seem too bothered, but that's probably because he hasn't actually shared the room yet. But I had to drag Henry here to help clear his room out. But I suppose he's so into the goats and kids at the moment, he doesn't want to be anywhere else. So, yeah, it's good of him to come with me. Oh, they are ever so cute, Jeff. Chelsea showed me some pictures. They really are. And of course he feels very protective of them. So the tea room wanting to have them nearby for customers to enjoy is not really. He's not keen. No, he's like a new surrogate dad. Oh, that's so sweet. I bet your mam will miss you when you come back here. Yeah, even though I'm working at the dairy every day, so we'll still see lots of each other. Right, I better get back. Oh, of course. Thank you. I'm gonna have to stay a while. I've still got more to do. Why don't you come over for a bite to eat tonight? No, no, no. You need some time to relax. I've already had you washing things off. Don't be daft. It was only a couple of things and they're dry now, so we should pack them up and then you can come over. Go on. Maybe as a last neighbourly evening before everything changes. Sounds so nice, but I don't want to impose. You won't be. Our Rochelle's cooking tonight and Mick's working so we can have a catch up and a drink. Come on, it'll be a girly laugh. Fine. You sure Rochelle won't mind? Of course she won't. Well then I'd love to. I'll get Henry back to the farm and see you at yours. Perfect. I'll text Rochelle. Thanks again, Rochelle. Yeah, see you. Listen, I know it's not ideal. We do support personal development, but I'm afraid the day to day running of the operation just takes priority. No, I get it. Thanks. See you. Rochelle, stop. Stop. Look, as you're really keen, how about you join us for the academy and farmers visit next Thursday? Next Thursday? Yeah, and you get a free buffet lunch out of it. I mean, to be honest, I could do with some friendly faces there to welcome the visitors. And you are a natural with people. I think questions about the camera yesterday might have got Some people's backs up. So I could do with someone who'd be happy just to chat to the visitors. What do you reckon? Sure. Yeah, why not? Yeah, sounds good. Yeah, count me in. Excellent. Oh, someone's in demand. Oh, it's just me, ma'am. Oh, I almost forgot. I'm cooking tea tonight. Gotta run. See ya. Yep. Bye. Oh, Helen, it's beautiful, isn't it? I mean, the artist is amazing. She's got this stall at Felpison Market. I've seen it. Her stuff's gorgeous. Oh, I'm so pleased you like it. But what's it for? It's not me birthday. Well, it doesn't have to be for anything in particular, does it? I got something for Tom and Natasha for their new house. And, well, I saw this and I thought of you. Oh, you shouldn't have. But I'm glad you did. I just love the colours in it and the way it catches the light. Oh, thank you, Helen. Hiya. Hi. Oh, Rochelle, look. Look what Helen got me. Wow. That looks expensive. Isn't it beautiful? What's it in need of? Just your mum being such a helpful, thoughtful person. Oh, she is that. I'm just nipping up for a quick shower and a change. You know, it's your turn to make tea, though. Yeah. It's baked cauliflower. And I've asked Helen to stay, if that's okay with you. Sure. You don't mind vegan, do you, Helen? No. Baked cauliflower sounds delicious. Great. Back in it, sir. I got the ingredients you said you needed. Thanks. I don't blame her needing a wash when she gets back from Casey Meads. No. Anyway, what were you saying about the car in Felpershire? Oh, nothing. I've just parked somewhere that I've parked a million times and I didn't see. They had these new signs up saying there are charges. I mean, usually it's an hour free. Oh, I think I know the place. Yeah. So before picking up Jack from his birthday thing, I thought I'd grab a coffee while I wait. And that's when I got a ticket. Oh, I hate it when that happens. I know. Well, the coffee was nice. Just not worth the fine. Oh, and I bumped into Rochelle at the coffee shop. She was with a friend. Really? That's nice. Wonder who it was. Maybe someone from work. Yeah, could be. Although she didn't look like she worked at an abattoir. Although, what does someone who works at an abattoir look like? I wonder who it was. I didn't catch her name. But she seemed really nice. Short, gray, pixie cut. I'd say mid-50s. Don't quote me on that. I'm terrible with ages. Well, that doesn't ring a bell with anyone I know, but it's nice that she's meeting up with friends. I mean, I'm not there yet, Saskia. I know, but I'm making good progress. The manager really wants to impress the local suppliers and the academy people and he asked me to be a part of it. That's great, Rachelle. Thanks for updating me. I reckon we can make this happen soon. He did say the next couple of weeks will be busy, but he definitely clocked that. I really want to shadow more of what goes on and that will get me more access. Good. Just don't give him any room to backpedal. He won't. Freddie's not like that. Listen, can you come over tonight? Tonight? Now, in fact. What are you doing? I just got in from cricket. Come over. You can talk us all through the layout of the building, let us know how many people there are in the different process areas. Isn't that a bit quick? I mean, Freddie's not about to hand me a pass tomorrow before tonight. You didn't think you'd be going to this event they've got, did you? No. You're right. We have to be patient. If we're going to do this, it has to be done right. But things can change in a moment, unexpectedly. And we want to be ready. Rochelle. Makes sense. We need to familiarize ourselves with the layout so we can plan everything. No surprises. Of course not, no. And we need to get into that killing room. I know. So you'll come over? What about Sam and Todd and the others? If you're in on this, no one will say anything. I'll make sure of it. If you don't want. Of course. I'm in. I'm in. I'll see you tonight, then. I'm leaving as soon as I end the call. Rochelle, I know it's challenging for you with. With your mum, but you have to keep focused on why you're there. Yeah? You have found a way in for direct, effective, targeted action. The stuff that makes a difference, makes an impact. I know. We need to be clear on what we're doing and why. I am. Good. I'll see you when you get here. So you must be really busy with the VE Day preparations. Yeah, there's lots to do. Mick's been up checking the beacons. Secure and ready on Lakey Hill. I need to Chase, David. With everyone heading up there for the ceremonial lighting, I need to make sure the paths are accessible and safe. Good thinking. Will you be coming? Of course. Oh, there's lots going on. The exhibition in the village hall is going to be really amazing with a VE Day special tea thrown in, courtesy of the Women's Institute. Oh, Mum and Dad will love that. Ah. Cannot tell you how nice this is. Just to sit here with you and have a glass of wine and chat about everything and nothing. I'm glad you came over. You deserve a night off. Mind you, it's getting a bit late, isn't it? Oh, there you are, Rochelle. I was wondering where you'd got to. Sorry? Oh, you haven't changed or showered. I had a call. Is everything all right? Yeah, but there's been a change of plan. Sorry. I have to be somewhere tonight. Now. Really? But what about. I'll make it up to you another night. Rochelle, we've got company. Please don't worry about that. Just tea, ma'am. Don't make a big thing out of it. Me? And if you're that interested, the ingredients are in the kitchen and me cookbook's on the worktop. I'm sure you two pals can work it out. I'll see you. Don't put the lock on. I'll be late. Right. I am so sorry, Helen. I don't know what just happened. Don't be. Clearly something came up and. It's fine. We've had a nice drink and a chat. I can head off. No, you won't. I invited you for a meal and I won't let you go without it. Joy, it's not a problem. Really. I'm so embarrassed. Well, don't be. This is me. Okay. Why don't we go to the ball? My treat. No, don't be daft. You already gave me a lovely treat with me present. Joy, I can make us something nice. I'll go and have a look what I've got in. Oh, actually, you know what I haven't had in a while. And you make really well. What's that? Fish finger sandwiches. Coming right up, pet. I'm Zing Singh. And I'm Simon Jack. And together we host Good Bad Billionaire, the podcast exploring the lives of some of the world's richest people. In the new season, we're setting our sights on some big names. Yep, LeBron James and Martha Stewart. Stewart, to name just a few. And as always, Simon and I are trying to decide whether we think they're good, bad, or just another billionaire. That's good. Bad Billionaire from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Do you think it needs to go into the window more? Yep. Just a little more towards you, Henry. And that's it. Oh, I have to say, they chose some lovely sofas. We done now? Not quite. I can't believe we're here again today. I know it's not the ideal way to pass the time in the holidays, but Tom and Natasha are busy enough clearing out their cottage, so anything we can do to help. Fine. So what else? Mum? I need to vacuum your old room and polish the whole floor. Why? Well, it looks dull and scuffed since the builders left and I haven't managed to get around to it. I want to get back to the farm, see how the kids are getting on. Okay, well, I'll do the floor polish if you vacuum your room. Well, technically Sharon and Noah's room. I've been clearing that room since forever. I know, Henry. Just one more push, please, and then we're done. I promise. Why don't I have a go at the hall floor? You can vacuum. It's a plan. Need to get so excited. All right. Yes, thanks. You? Fine. What's that? A cauliflower. You didn't make it for Helen then? No, we had fish finger butties. Something stuck in your throat. Fish finger butties for your artisan cheese maker, pal? I don't think so. When our ex husband was dying, I looked after the boys while she went to see him for the last time. She left in the wee small hours. And when we came back here, I made us all fish finger sandwiches. So it was more about the memory, I suppose, than the butties themselves. Wow. A friend in need, eh? We all have friends in need at some point, pet. So I thought we can have your cauliflower. What's it tonight? Okay. You can help if you want. Sure. Hallway floor's done. Mum, what do you think? Oh, that looks great, Henry. I don't think I've ever seen it look so shiny. Hello? Anyone here? Helen, Right on cue. We put this stuff. Natasha. You are? Tommy. Okay? Yeah. Natasha. What the hell happened there? Oh dear. It's so slippery. It is that. Are you hurt? No, no. Holding my pride. Oh. What's with this floor? I. I think we may have overdone it with the polish. Well, Mum says we. She means me. Sorry. Oh, here, let me help you out. No, no, no. Careful, Helen. You don't want to fall too. So sorry. Don't be. Just give me a sec. Oh, it's been a while since I've been knocked off my feet like that. This is not the welcome we wanted to give you. I don't get it. I didn't slip on it. Yeah, well you must have worked your way backwards from the door to the stairs. Oh, yeah, I did. Sorry. No, don't worry about it, mate. It's an easy mistake. We just have to be super woo. Super careful. That was close. Thanks, Natasha, love of my life. Oh, your face. Sorry, guys. Oh yeah, you sound it. Should have broken my neck. It's not funny. What we gonna do? Natasha, could you get up? Give me a sec. Oh, I'm sure I can. We better get the excess polish off this floor before someone really hurts themselves. Did the sofa delivery guy slip? No, Henry started on the floor after they left. Oh, good thing. Right, help me up, please. Come on. Right, if you guys go and put the kettle on, me and Henry will see what we can do about making this floor less of a death trap. So that goes in the oven. Let's turn down in the center. Oh, we forgot the vegan cheese topping. Oh, nope, that's for the crust, ma'am. Once it's tender, we'll pop that on top and back in the oven to brown. You've done this a few times then? It's a staple. We'll throw some chickpeas in it too. You might want to put something in the oven for Mick if he wants more protein with it. And you, if you want, I'll put a chicken breast on for Mick, but I'll have it the way you are. Okay, I'll clear this up then. And you can sit down for a bit while it bakes. Oh, nice to get off my feet. Good. You know, I've been thinking. Oh dear. Watch out, everyone. I've been setting some money aside. It's not much, you know, but I wanted to give you something towards getting a place of your own, get you settled. I can sort myself out, ma'am. I know, but I wanted to do it. If you had somewhere close by, it would be like this. Only you wouldn't have to feel like I'm watching over you all the time. You know, you can do your own thing, but we still get to see each other regular, like. Well, I wasn't expecting that. It's just a thought. A new place, a new start. You could have your friends over, maybe even have the kids over. They could maybe come here and all. I just mean you'd have your own space. Friends? Like who? Anyone you wanted, really. Like the Friend you met up with in Felpersham. Helen said she saw you at a cafe the other day. She did? Yeah. Who was it? Did you see anything else? No, but the poor girl popped into that cafe for a drink and ended up with a parking ticket. Oh, shame. That I know. Anyway, whoever it was, she's welcome here if you want. It's nice to know you've got some new friends. Is she from Casey Meats? Just because you don't know her doesn't mean she's new. Oh, I know. I just thought she might be from work. You mean the job? You want us to leave? It's like you want to reinvent us from head to toe. Ma'am knew everything. That's not what I meant. That's what it sounded like. Rochelle, you'll need to check the cauliflower in about 20 minutes. Oh, Helen, what a beautiful vase. Is it from that woman who makes her own glassware? Yeah, I know how much you like her stuff, too. So not like love. I should have waited for Tom to come in before I opened it. No, no, it was just a small thing. But hopefully something nice for your new home. Well, it's not small. And these are really expensive. Jack said he'd pick you some flowers to put in it. Oh, I'm just glad I brought it in before Henry did The floor. It might never have survived. Oh, my gosh. This week has been so ridiculous. And it's only halfway through. Yeah, well, they do say moving is one of the most stressful things ever. Tom wanted to wait another day, but I was like, I have to get in there and give it a thorough clean. We are not going to delay it any further. Oh, well, I did come in this week and do as much cleaning as I could. Oh, no, sorry. No, I. I did everywhere and. And tried to get all the builder dust, which seems never ending. Oh, you really shouldn't have, Helen. It's not like you haven't had your hands full yourself. No, it's nothing, really. Right. Time waits for no woman. Better see if Tom's done with the floor. We need to get those sofas in the right place. I gave the delivery guys specific instructions. And. And they still didn't manage to get it right. Oh. Oh, sorry. I didn't know. It's not your fault. It's thanks to you that they got delivered today. Otherwise me and Tom would have had to wait till next week. No, I mean, they did put the three seater along the wall. They did? Yeah, I moved it under the window, thinking you might Want the wall space for the girls, toy storage or that little table you have for them? Oh, that's nice. Only I always like to keep the windows clear of anything. Really? I. I don't know why, but I do it wherever I go. Oh, okay. Well, I'll help you move it back. No, you're all right. Honestly. Me and Tom will pick them up, save dragging them, which knocks the carpet out of line sometimes, so. Right. Are you getting on, boys? You look cozy with your magazine. I love it when they show celebrities in their houses. It's like another world. I mean, would you really think anyone would live in a place with that much animal product print? It's everywhere. I think you'll find most of the time it isn't even the celebrity's house. Just show homes that can pose in to make everyone else want what they've got. Except they haven't actually got it. Is that a dig at me as well? Because you think I'm all for sure. Actually, it wasn't a dig. And I don't think that about you. Feels to me the problem is you judging me all the time. I don't. Tell him, Rex, what you did. Oh, look, I said telling me to get a new place, new life, new job. That's not me being judgmental. I'm trying to help you improve your life. There's nothing wrong with my life. Wanting something to be better does not mean there's anything wrong with it. And I really do worry about you working at an abattoir when you're a vegan. It's hard enough for meat eaters to work there, I bet, but for you, it must be hell. Do you know, before I mentioned the money I've been setting aside for you, I was worried you'd just think I wanted rid. Don't you? No. I want you to be close by, but I want you to be happy. Not to be always thinking about what you think I'm thinking because I'm not. I'm not always thinking the worst. Aren't you? You like it here in the village. I know you do. Don't worry. I'm not here to gatecrash your home. It could be your home and all if you got a place nearby. Eventually you could have the kids over and maybe I could get to know them a bit better. I wouldn't hold your breath about Harper and Noah, Ma'am. That's not going to be happening anytime soon. And as for the job, like I said, I'm doing it for them. It's good money, okay? Okay. But whatever the case, this is your home for as long as you want. Thanks, but I know you and Mick had, like, your own space back. I'll soon be with my family again anyway. Come on. That'll be tea ready. The bathrooms are done and I've put the girls essentials in their bedroom. I can't believe how much stuff they've got. We can unpack the boxes at our own pace. I've put the basics in the kitchen so we're all good for breakfast. Should I go and get the kids for Mum and Dad's? Just two minutes, please. Give me time to catch my breath. You must be knackered. And you? Oh, I'm a bit sore from that fall too. I didn't see Helen leave. Henry was eager to get back to his kids. Oh, and I think I was a bit. What? Nothing. She was fine. But she just left the sofas where they were. She'd come back and cleaned the kitchen twice, poor thing. But there was still a pile of dust behind the back door and, you know, after workmen have been. Dust gets everywhere. I know, I know. Oh, look how beautiful that vase looks in the window where she put it. What? You're thinking what I'm thinking, aren't you? Which is? Oh, well, spell it out, please. I'm tired. Well, that's the second with four children in the house. I know. Right. Sarah can totally reach the ledge now. Totally. We'll have to protect it with our lives. Yeah. I wish it could be just us in our new house. No people to tiptoe around. Helen and the boys aren't that bad, are they? They're not bad at all, Tom. It's just the situation, isn't it? This was her house, their domain. And now we'll be doing things differently and changing things. We can't get out of it now, can we? No, definitely not. Right then. Onwards and upwards. Need some help? Oh, Ben. Yes, please. I pranked my thumb in the cab door. I'll live. But if you could give this a stir with the whisk, I might have overfilled it. Sure. I need a break from the screen anyway. I feel like I've been sitting in front of it for hours. What? NHS work and planning your assessment? Escape from your tax dodging family farm. You just can't let this inheritance tax disagreement go, can you? I came out to stretch my legs and bang, there's another dig. Oh, well, you know that. That's where living on a farm comes in handy. There's always something that needs doing. If you want to stretch those legs. Yeah. Bit like a hospital, actually. There you go. The milk's a good consistency now, I think, with my expert touch. Yeah. Can you give us a hand loading the canister on the back of the quad bike? Yeah, of course. David. Oh, Joy. Everything all right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Just not enough hours in the day. Also, it feels. Joy. Hi. Oh, I'm glad I caught you before you speed off on your quad bike. Right. Hi, Ben. Hi, Joy. How are you? Oh, good, thanks. Just busy coordinating with all the various activities for the VE Day. Of course, yeah. Yeah. David, I emailed you about walking the routes up to the beacon lighting site on Lakey Hill. We just need to make sure we can point out any tricky spots so people attend and can choose their best route up. Yeah, I did see the email, Joy. When were you thinking? Today, if possible. Or tomorrow. The sooner we locate any problems, the sooner we can try and fix them. Yeah, that's all well and good, only I have a rather full day myself. Pip's off with Rosie this morning. Oh, she'll be on holiday, won't she? Yeah. So Ruth and I are covering her workload too. Oh, I. I would love to, guys. Only I'm at my placement for the rest of the week and today's the only day I've got to get my studying done, so. Of course. Can you not squeeze me in? David? Anyone for a brew? What are you all doing out in the rain? Leonard, Is everything all right? What? I'd love a brew, if you're offering. I am, David. Ben. Yes, please. I'll come in in a sec. I've got to get this milk out to the calves, I'm afraid. Okay. This way, Joy. So, Leonard, are you busy at the moment? Sounds like that's one thing off your list. If Leonard's up for it. Let's hope. Right. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. I'm just. I'm a bit up against it with work. Yeah, no worries. When is it not busy around here? Fair point. But listen, if I manage to get through it in the next few hours, I can help with anything after that. Good. Thanks. I may need you. Anything specific? Well, I spotted a couple of dogs off their leads in the field with the Herefords. Off the. Their leads? Yeah. Honestly, you think people would have more sense. Must be visitors. Locals are pretty good about knowing the dangers, aren't they? I know. I mean, I'm all for people having access to the countryside, but they do need to be more responsible. 100 did you say anything to them? The dog walkers? I tried. One listened politely, but it didn't sound like it landed. The other scarpered in the opposite direction as soon as I called after her. You might have scared her. I've got enough of my plate without having to do dog patrol. Right. I mean, it's ignorance, isn't it? Their precious pet poo is really harmful to our cows. Yeah, well, we need to tell them anyway. Better be off. All right. Try not to get into any dog fights. Oh, hey, Rex. You got here quickly. I had a drop off nearby, so I was only a couple of minutes away. Where are we off to? Back to my car mechanic, please. Okay. Yeah, I have the address from last time. Oh, don't tell me. I've left my phone in the dairy. Oh, do you want to knit back in? Oh, no, no, I've got it. Phew. Sorry, I'm all over the place today. I was told I needed to replace my windscreen wipers before too long, but when it actually rained, they stopped working altogether. Apparently the mechanism needs some sorting. It's good to keep on top of stuff like that. Yeah. Is there ever a good time to be without your car? Especially when you're carting two boys around. Yeah. Anyway, how are you? Oh, fine. Pigs okay? Yep. Relax. Yeah. Is everything okay? Fine. Why? You seem a bit. Not like you. Oh, just tired, probably. All right, I'll shut up then. Oh, no, no, carry on. It's fine. That is too many fines in under a minute. Obviously, if you don't want to talk about it, that is fine. Oh, I was desperate trying not to say it. So that's a plan. Tomorrow, you and me up Laker Hill. It's a date. Steady. Honour. I'll tell Gran. Oh, Ben, it is good of you to do it. Thanks, Leonard. Yeah, thanks, Leonard. Oh, pleasure. Really, I can't think of anything better to do than take a walk up Lakey Hill. Well, it'll be a few walks. We're testing out both the main paths. I thought I heard something about a 4x4 taking some of the older people up to the beacon site. You heard right. But there's so many folk around here who want to walk up there. It's like a pilgrimage to them. So we need to make sure they're safe and at the very least, forewarned if there's anything to watch out for. I hope you're ready for it, Leonard. Ready as I'll ever be. Keep us pit, won't he? Yeah. I just hope the rain holds off for Us tomorrow. Well, there's always a raincoat. Oh, and don't forget to take your umbrella. Oh, thanks again, Leonard. See you tomorrow. Tomorrow. Oh, now, I promised Jill I'd check on a hens for us. Excuse me, Ben. Bye, Joy. Bye, Leonard. Joy looks happy. Yeah, well, Leonard's volunteered to walk the roots with her tomorrow. Oh, he's a lifesaver. Yeah. What are you staring at? I'm just checking for bruises. He didn't get into any fisticuffs with any dog walkers then? Well, I was ready for it. Yeah. Right. Now, luckily, I spotted one bloke with his German shepherd who was prepared to stop and listen. And five minutes on the dangers of Neospora, killing calves and making cows infertile. And he was chasing his dog down to get the lead back on him. Well, it worked then. But it's not great, is it? I mean, we can't police the field 24. 7 chasing after dog poo. Exactly. People need telling over and over again, don't they? The minute you think everyone gets it, you realize there's a whole bunch who don't. Yeah, you're right. They love their dogs. Right? So they should care about our Herefords and our dairy cattle. You'd have thought so. Yeah. The mess their dogs leave behind can cost us a lot of cash. They just need to pick the stuff up. But there's no sequirest vote, as they say. Signs are probably a good shout. Way ahead of you. I've had some made up. I'll go and collect them and then we can put them up together. Be quicker that way. Oh, great. I just need to finish some electric fencing for pit and then I'll head to the barn to get some posts out. Thanks, Ben. Great. No worries. Oh, they haven't done it. What? Why? Apparently they were sent the wrong part, so they have to reorder. What, and they didn't think to call you and mention. I think they bothered to answer the phone. Haven't been called calling all morning to check if I can pick up the car as planned. That's so annoying. Oh, thanks for waiting. Oh, no problem. Back to base, then? Yeah, Fritzo. I will need to stop for petrol, though, just so you know. Honestly, Rex, the day I'm having, you can stop for whatever you like. Nothing is going according to plan. Oh, look, sorry to be a bore about it, but I wish you'd tell me what's wrong. Something's up. It's written all over your face. Oh, look, just like you said, your day's already been Challenging. It's really not worth bending your ear about. If I can help, I'd like to. Okay, well, not to sound like a cliche, but there's this woman. I really like her. Despite the fact she's done some things. Well, nothing bad exactly, but one minute I'm sure it's mutual, the next is like she doesn't care. Have you known her long? No, not too long, but long enough to know better. I don't even think it's worth talking about Helen. Clearly my radar's just not working. She blows hot and cold at the drop of a hat and I guess I'm feeling a bit. I don't know what to do about it. Look, why don't I get us some coffee? Okay, That'll be great. Excellent. They look alright. Yeah. Yeah. Good sized lettering. So people can actually, you know, read them. Please clean up after your dog on farmland. Dogs can carry a parasite called Neospora, which is harmful to pregnant cows. What? Well, will people stick around to read them? Too many words, you think? Or maybe a picture speaks a thousand words. I've printed and laminated a few of these as well. Wow. Okay. Yeah, that image does speak loud and clear. If it's all safe and inoffensive, it won't have any impact. Fair enough. But do we want to think about maybe putting them up after all the VE Day events? I mean, lots of people will be walking up to the lighting of the beacons, won't they? And they're not going to all have dogs. The dangers of Neospora won't take a pause for VE Day, Ben. And neither should we. It's your call. The more people who see them, the better, in my opinion. Sorry, Helen. The queues at the pump were longer than I expected. No worries. Come sit down. I've got some coffees and a sandwich to share. Oh, thanks. I've been thinking about what you said. Yeah? Yeah. And I understand your predicament. You know, I've been thinking about life too lately. The bigger picture is Beechwood, right for us. With Tom and family. Should I take the easier route and stay with Mum and Dad? There's nothing brave about standing still, is there? Can't you just tell this woman how you feel? Oh, thing is, yeah, I always put my everything into a relationship. Maybe because I'm not sure how to. I used to be sure about me and Anisha, but the minute she got her dream job, there was no contest she was leaving. I mean, she asked me if I wanted to go with her, but it was Clear as day. If my answer was no, she wasn't going to consider sticking around for me. But this woman, she isn't Anisha, Rex. But what if I have a type? I'm always falling for the wrong person. That can't be true. Look, I don't know if you ever clocked it, but I spent a lot of time liking someone that we both know and she ended up having a baby with my brother. Please don't say anything. No, of course I wouldn't. It's always seemed easier for Toby. I mean, yeah, he and Pip didn't make it, but I have to admit, they do work well together to look after Rosie. Whatever the situation, they make it work. You know, you're just waiting for the right one, that's all. Oh, yeah. This person who arranges dates and then cancels the same day, she can't be it, Right? Well, I don't know why someone would do that. But is it wrong just to let them know how you feel? I know it's scary and so much easier to say than do, but sometimes I think it's better just to know for sure. Better than all the toing and froing and wondering and drive you mad? Yeah, it can. It is really decent, you know, Rex. Oh, great. I know how that sounds and you'd rather I say you were exciting or really attractive, but I'm telling you, you're a gift. You are the kind of person you can build a life with and have a real chance of it lasting. And the right person will recognize that. What's the worst that can happen? Here, let me help you over. Thanks, Leonard. Oh, careful. The wood's a bit loose as you step up. Oh, it is a bit. We might want to note that down for David. Already on it. Such a lovely view, even though we're only halfway up. It is. Fancy sitting for a couple of minutes? Sure. Oh, I'm glad the rain's held off. Jam Roly Poly. Pardon? That's what my mother made for the first VE Day street party. Lovely. I was only very little, but I still remember it. Me and my dad were putting up the bunting with Bill from across the road and she had the oven going. Dad sat me on his shoulders and I fixed the end of the bunting to whatever there was to attach it to. We crisscrossed all the way down to the Dooleys, the end terrace. I'll never forget it. Street parties are lovely, aren't they? Everyone coming together with whatever they've got. My mum and dad took it Very seriously. Made the best of it they could. Along with everyone else. It was a moment in history, wasn't it? My granddad, he fought In World War I, the war to end all wars. Except here we are today. He always said there were no winners in war. Everyone loses. He never talked about it, ever, what actually happened to him. But he'd tell anyone willing to listen that war was nothing but a waste of life. It's hard to argue with that, Right? Shall we continue up to the top? Yep. No rest for the wicked. I'm sorry I haven't come over to see you sooner. I've just been busy. You know how it is. Actually, I didn't think I'd be seeing you anytime soon. I was hoping to chat after nets, but you left pretty sharpish, so I didn't get a chance. I realized I should have come to see you, so I'm here. I guess I'm wondering what was so pressing that you arrange a date for Monday and then cancel pretty much immediately. I'm sorry. That's fine. But why plan to meet up in the first place? Look, I really like you, Rex. No, I do. A lot. I don't want you thinking I'm playing silly games or anything. Then what are you doing? I don't know. I. It's hard for me to explain. I've got a lot going on. You're not the problem, though. So there is a problem? No, no, that's not what I meant. I. Look, I shouldn't have come. I'll see you. Rochelle, wait. Look, Rex, like, that was nice. I like you, too. A lot, in fact. Maybe. Maybe like's not the right word. Wow. No, I'm not diving in with the L word or anything, but I can't get you out of my head. And I don't want to play games, either. Maybe this could be a thing. You really want to be with me? I didn't realize we'd have to walk through a field of cows. They're completely harmless, Joy. We go over the stile and through to the other side. They won't even notice us. Okay, if you say so. Oh, here's another footpath that's grown over with bramble. I'll make a note of it. Oh, dear me. Joy, are you all right? Yeah. Just. What is that? Oh, give me a second. Oh. Oh, that's awful. Who put that sign up? What is it? It's my word. It's an aborted calf fetus. Oh. And why is it there? Well, I have no idea, but I'm Taking it down. Neospora. Oh, yes. David said he was going to put some signs up. It's a parasite found in dog dirt. It affects pregnant cows. If they eat it, it can lead to loss of the calf. Are there a lot of dogs in these fields? Well, it's more that there are dog walkers who let the dogs off the lead and some who don't clear up after them. Well, that's not right. No, but neither's giving walkers a shock when they see something like this, let alone the young and old coming up the hill on the VE Day event. It is a bit in your face. I'm just glad I'm a cat person. Not that I don't like dogs, mind. We'll have to swing back round, see if there are any other shocks we need to deal with. Hey. Oh, look, there's David. He's waving. Oh, actually, I don't think he is waving, but he's coming over. He doesn't look very happy. Well, neither are we. Leonard. What do you think you're doing? This is a rather inappropriate image to have out for all to see, David. I beg your pardon? We just thought it might be a bit graphic. Well, good, because that is exactly what I'd have to look at if someone irresponsible walks their dog in my fields and doesn't clear up its mess. And this line here apparently means you have a very big heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I told you. I knew a guy once who studied Pont and he taught me the basics. Oh, go on then, what was his name? Dean. What, you think I'm making it up? Yeah, I did, but Dean came out quite quick. Well, you see. Surname. Ah, no, I can't remember Dean. Doesn't mean he didn't exist. Still, you're very convincing. Thank you. Now look, this is your headline. Here it comes. No, no, no, it's all good, actually. It shows that your life is a constant battle between heart and mind. Does it? Yeah, according to my mate Dean, it does, because of that curve upwards right there. Why am I close? What does it matter? It's all pretend, isn't it? Well, yeah, but some people believe in it. What are you led by then? Heart or head? Oh, depends. On? Well, as a pigman and taxi driver. Interesting combo. I'd like to think I'm led by my head. And in other matters, unfortunately, I'm all heart. Why is that unfortunate? Because when I'm in something, romantically speaking, I guess I'm all in no half measures. Wow, that's some big deal, isn't it is It? A moment ago, I thought you said we liked each other. We did, but only for a bit of fun. What's that supposed to mean? It means two consenting adults having some fun, Rex. But we were just talking about us being together. Yeah, I know, but it's not okay. Look, look, look. Maybe we got our wires crossed. Maybe we did. I like you, Rex. Please stop saying that. I do. But the way my life is right now, I can't really commit to more than messing around a bit. Why? Because you have kids? No. Then because. Because I can't. I don't know where I'll be for any length of time. I might have to leave Ambridge soon. Hang on. You've got a job. You live with your mum. You're on the cricket team, for crying out loud. You can commit to all that. Jobs come and go. I'm staying at my mum's. Not living with her permanently. The point is, if something more came of this, then you could choose to stay, couldn't you? I don't think something more can come of this. Other than a few kisses. Well, I don't think I'm up for that. I'll get my court, shall I? I like you too much for a few fun times. And then what? You disappear? I think you're being way too serious about this, Rex. I get that things might not work out. That's life. But I don't want to start something that doesn't mean anything. We're about to have a load of locals of all ages walk up Lakey Hill for the V De Beacon, as they have done for many years. And you really expect kids and the elderly to look at this image? Why not, Leonard? Because it's disturbing. You could scar a kid for life, David. Listen. Or educate them for life. So when they take their pet dog for a walk across here, they remember to bag its poo and dispose of it responsibly. That's it. I have never known anything like it. Two grown men fighting. It wasn't a fight. More of an active disagreement. You're wrong on this. I am not. Are too. Actually, I think David is right. What? What? It is a difficult image to see, Leonard. But the threat to David's animals is just as harsh. And people probably do need a little shock to the system to stop this behavior. Couldn't have said it better myself. If you ask me, there should be all over the village as well as the fields. People should know what one small thing not picking up your dog's mess can lead to. For farmers and their animals. Thank you, Joy. Now, have you got something to say to each other? I'm sorry, David. It's your farm. It's your sign. I shouldn't have removed it. Oh, you're all right. You're only thinking of others. And maybe I'll take this picture and put it on a sign. A little off the beaten track. Maybe not one of the main routes people will take the week after next. Thank you. I believe that'd be good. Now, how hard was that? You okay? Yeah, sure. Plenty more fish in the arm and all that. I'm sorry, Rex. Don't be. More than you can know. It is tricky reading you. Maybe that's another reason this might not have worked out. Even if it was only a fling. I was just being honest. Honesty's good. I can't. That's all I can offer you at the minute. Michelle, we were both honest. You can't offer more. I'm not sure I want less. So we're on the same page. Glad we said it before things went any further tonight. I cana regret that they didn't. Maybe me too, a little bit. Can you talk about why not now? No. You are intriguing, to say the least. Rochelle, you never quite answer a question. Head on. Do you hate me now? No. So we can still be friends? Yeah. I think friendship is a good place to part this. Thanks, Rex, for understanding. Oh, well, trying to. Yeah. 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