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And as always, Simon and I are trying to decide whether we think they're good, bad or just another billionaire. That's Good Bad Billionaire from the BBC World Service. Listen now with wherever you get your BBC podcasts, BBC Sounds Music Radio podcasts. You're listening to the Archers Omnibus from BBC Radio 4. Emma, I'm Robert. Hello. Congratulations. Congratulations on the photograph. What photograph? On the website for the Echo, there's a picture of you leading Friday's protest. No, it's a fantastic picture. Can I get it on my phone, do you think? Oh, sure you can if you go to the website. It's the first article that comes up. Great. It's good, isn't it? Princess was all about publicity and we certainly generated plenty of that. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I suppose. I found it. Mm. What do you think? It's literally just me. Well, no, you can see others in the background. Yeah, but you can't see who any of them are. And I'm the only one who's named. I thought you'd be pleased. Imagine if someone writes something about George. Like what? Well, you know, like, that's the mother of the boy who went to prison for dangerous driving. Or what kind of a mother raises a son like that? Or she's a hypocrite for caring about water quality when her own son nearly drowned. Five people. I mean, I can think of all sorts. I really don't think anyone is going to write anything like that. And even if they did, well, they don't know what they're talking about, do they? They don't Know you? Well, Mick knows me. Mick thinks I don't deserve to be on the parish council. Oh, Emma. Oh, to be honest, Robert, if the parish council don't want me, that's fine. It really is. It's not fine. We need you. That's sweet of you to say. I'm not saying it to be sweet. I'm saying it because it's true. How are you getting on, Eddie? Yeah, not bad, Tot. Are you ready for a bit of lunch yet? Yeah, yeah, just give me five, ten more minutes. You said that half hour ago. Did I? Once you get under a bonnet, you lose all track of time. Did you know that? Well, there's something so satisfying about fixing an engine. I wouldn't know. No, rather than paying someone else to do a job you can do yourself. I mean, you know what that feeling's like, Clary. That's true. I mean, you can turn your hand to anything, I'd say. Oh, I might have to. I'll be in in 10 minutes, I promise. 15, tops. Tell you what, I might go and plant some lettuces for a bit. Really? Well, you're taking forever and I fancy getting on with something. Oh, okay, love. Not all that hungry, to be honest. You can make yourself a sandwich, can't you? Of course I can. And then we'll have a roast for tea when Edward and Emma and Kira come over. Okey doke. I know it's a bit topsy turvy for a Sunday. I still can't get over Poppy and Kira tricking George like that. I know. It was clever of them. Naughty, but nice. Pity they can't do the same for Susan and Neil. Really? No. Well, I don't expect that trick would work twice. No. Clary? Yeah? Are you okay, love? Yeah, I'm all right. I've just been running through everything Helen's likely to ask me in the interview, and I do feel like it's hopeless. Oh? Why? Well, because they're not going to give me the job and I know it. Now, hang on a minute. I think I need to start looking around for something else. Clary, it ain't over till it's over. Yeah, boy. Gotta be realistic. You've just got to do your best. Believe the rest of the gods. The gods being Helen and Pat. I do wish they weren't putting you in this position. Well, it's not. It's not their fault, is it? Oh, I know. But I reckon they should have tried harder to think of another solution. Well, Helen said they'd been racking their brains. Did she Now, I don't think she's insincere, Eddie. No. And Pat was inspired to organise the whole bell ringing protest because she was so upset about me or Susan losing our jobs. I mean, instead of looking for something else, maybe you should think about actually, you know, retiring. Honestly, I wouldn't say no. I really wouldn't. Well, there you go. How could we afford it? We'd find a way. We'd really struggle. Not necessarily. We will, Daddy. We would. That's just the truth of it. And I don't want to be lying awake worrying about how we pay the bills. No. I'm going to start asking around for other work. We. But you haven't even been made redundant yet. But it's coming, Eddie. The writing's on the wall. Sorry I took so long, Lindy. Oh, that's all right. I left the supermarket and then remembered pumpkin seeds, so I had to stop at the shop. Then I bumped into Emma. Oh. Was she pleased with the picture? She wasn't particularly. Oh, dear. Why? She's just a bit worried about the comments section and people posting about George. I see. Plus, I imagine she's worried about the parish council meeting this Thursday. She said that she's beyond caring, but personally, I didn't buy it. Beyond caring about what? Well, we are supposed to be making a decision this Thursday about whether Emma can stay. Yes. Yes, of course. Sorry. Go. What lovely flowers. Yes, they are, aren't they? Were they here earlier? No. Where did they come from? Azra. Oh, that's nice. There's a card. And chocolates. Delicious chocolates. I've eaten three already. Ah. Are you all right, Lindy? They've gone. Who's gone? The Maliks. They've just packed up and left about five minutes ago. Really? You've just missed them. Azra spoke to the decorator this morning and he said they were all done. Well, that's wonderful news. For them, I mean. Yes. Yes, it is. Azra and Akrom are so happy. Although we do have rather a lot of food now. Well, I was going to call you and tell you, but then I thought perhaps we might still feed them this evening, you see. Oh, yes, yes, well, let's do that. But actually, you know, they seemed rather keen to be at home by themselves as well. Who can blame them? Oh, I don't blame them. It's. It's just a shame. Can I have a chocolate? I mean, since we're not doing Ramadan anymore. Robert, we only did Ramadan for about three days. It was longer than that, wasn't it? No, it wasn't. These chocolates are amazing. They are. And Azra said to thank you enough enormously and tell you you're a superstar. Oh, well, that's nice. That I'm a superstar, I mean. Well, didn't you know that already? Well, yes, of course, but it's always nice to be reminded. All right, Eddie? Not bad, Tom. I just got a few bits from the shop for Clary for tea tonight. Oh, she's in the veg patch, Emma. Planting some lettuces. I'm right. How is she? She okay? About her interview tomorrow, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Well, between you and me, I think she's feeling quite low. Oh, no, but how's she supposed to feel? She's been in that job for 30 odd years. Slime, eh? Didn't realize. I mean, I knew it was a long time, but Clary doesn't blame Pat and Ellen. Of course, they couldn't help the sewage leak. But I can't help feeling annoyed with them. I mean, how long Susan been there? I don't know. Since 2010, I reckon. So Clary and Susan have got, what, 45 years between them? When you put it like that. You think that. That loyalty would count for something, wouldn't you? Well, I'm sure it does count for something. Well, not enough in my book. My mum just hates being in competition with Clavey. She hates it go into rotten. It's a rotten situation all around. Yeah. Any road, I said. I'll have this fan belt fixed by now, so I better crack on or Clary, I'll have me guts for garters. And it was so nice having young people in the house. Young voices. I know what you mean. I'm sorry, Robert. I am sorry. I. I don't know why I'm being such a misery. It's just that the place feels empty. I mean, from tomorrow we're pretty busy. You may wish that the house were more empty. That's true. Plus, you still got me, Lindy. Me and Monty. But Monty can't play cards, can he? No, not many dogs can. Oh, and Khalil has asked if he can come and feed the llamas now and again. And of course, I've said yes. Well, that would be jolly helpful, actually. Exactly. Hiya, Clary. Hello, Emma. How are you getting on? Oh, no. Yeah, not bad, Tar. I just left some bits in the kitchen for tea tonight. Oh, didn't need to trek up here just to tell me that. I know, I know. I came to show you something. What? It's a picture of the protest it's on the website of the Echo. Oh, lovely. Let's see. Here you go. Emma. What a brilliant photo. I know. Yeah, I was a bit shocked when I saw it because. Looks like I'm the leader or something. Also, I thought people might, I don't know, write something bad about George. But then I showed it to Ed and he made me feel better. Oh, I'd be very pleased with that if I was you. And you should be proud, too. Proud of yourself for last Friday. It was amazing. Rallying the whole village like that. Well, it wasn't just me. It was dad and Alan and Akram and loads of people. Well, I still think you should be proud of yourself. Ah, well, actually, that's what I've come to say to you. Me? What have I got to be proud of? Everything, Clarisse. Everything. Everything you do round here and everything you've ever done. Honestly. You're in this horrible situation at Bridge Farm and you're in competition with your close friend, and you've been so lovely and gracious and supportive. I think you're an amazing person, Clary. Thank you, Emma. That's very kind of you saying that. Why don't I give you a hand planting these lettuces? Do you got onion sets there, too? Yeah. Oh, you don't have to do that. But I'd like to. I mean, I always think it's quite a nice job, planting salad stuff. Makes me think of the summer to come. Great. The. The other thing I wanted to say, Clary. Yeah? If things don't go your way tomorrow and. Well, Ed and me, we'll do our best to help out financially. I mean, Kira's offered to get paper round, too. Oh, bless her. She means it, though. I don't expect you and Edward to give us handouts, Emma. You've got family to raise. And I certainly don't expect money from your own granddaughter. Goodness me, no. Well, let's see. Let's see how it goes tomorrow. I've just got to do me best, haven't I? That's it. That's what I always say to my kids and my grandkids. And now I've got to follow my own advice. Do my best, because that's all I can do. Oh, I'm not looking forward to this. Neither am I. I just wish it wasn't necessary. Well, of course. Particularly since the outcome's basically a foregone conclusion. Well, we didn't know that. I can't see us giving the job to Clary when Susan's more skilled and has so Much more experience. It would just be wrong. Yes, but Clara's actually been here twice as long and she has her own set of skills that are arguably just as crucial. She's an excellent worker. They're both excellent. That's the problem. We just have to follow the rules. Fill in the point system, see how they both add up. It's easier said than done, but at least there's a process that should take some of the emotion out of it. But it won't, will it? Because you can't take the emotion out of it, Mum. Certainly not for Susan and Clary. We can't. Well, that's true. It's like we have to choose between two diamonds. Flat white, please, Emma. Anything else with that, Robert? Are they cinnamon buns? Cardamom, actually. Oh, even better. Take a seat if you like. Yes. I just wanted to ask, have you had any negative responses to your photograph being in the Echo website? I know how worried you were. I haven't, actually. People have been really, really lovely in real life. And online. Excellent. Excellent. I can bring the coffee over if you want. Yes, thank you. Let me just pay up. Yeah, of course. There you go. Did that go through? Yeah, all good. Can I just say, for what it's worth, I really don't think that the parish council can penalize you for doing something so community minded, so entirely for the benefit of the village. They should be applauding you. Thing is, Robert, I'm thinking about just resigning. Resigning? Yeah. Yeah, I could do without any more hassle, to be honest. If they don't want me, then I don't want them. But we do want you. Please don't resign, Emma. Please. Honestly, that would be the worst outcome. Emma, can you help me? Hiya, Clary. Have you got a tea towel I could borrow? Sure, yeah. I'll leave you to it. Emma. Oh, Robert, Your coffee ready? You okay to take it yourself? Absolutely. Don't forget the bun. Thanks. And please don't do anything hasty, Emma. Please. Yeah, okay. I better just. Yes. Yes. Sorry. Sorry. Clary. Oh, no, you're all right. Are you okay? No. Big SUV just splashed me with muddy water as I was walking in the gate. Oh, no. Just before my interview and all. Oh, that's horrible. That's the last thing you needed. What do you reckon? Does it show? A little bit, I guess. But you can just explain to Pat and Helen, can't you? I'd like to try and clean it up. Oh, yeah, Sorry. Here's a cloth. Thank you. I might just go to the loo. Why don't I make you a coffee while you're cleaning your skirt on the house. Oh, no, I can't do that. That'd be like stealing. Don't be daft. You work for Bridge Farm. And it's the least they can do on the day they're making you interview for your own job. What would you like? Are you sure? Sure. It'd be all right. Of course it will. Now tell me which coffee you want. Do you want a latte? Oh, well, yeah. A latte be very nice. Thank you. Anything to eat? No, no, that would be a step too far. Just the latte, please. Oh, Clary. Hello, Susan. Hiya, ma'am. You're ever so early, aren't you? I am. And I wish I hadn't been because then that stupid big car wouldn't have splashed me with muddy water. Oh, no. I'm just gonna go and clean it off. I hope your interview goes really well, Susan. Thank you. I hope the same for you. I really do. I'm just gonna make you coffee claret and I'll bring it over. Okay. Thank you. I do feel a bit worried about you giving me a freebie. But I would like one. How about I make my mum one too? And then I'll be treating you both fair and square. Oh, yes, I could do with a coffee. That'd be lovely. I've got a few minutes before I have to go in. And you don't have to pain either, Mum. Does that make you feel better, Clary? It does, actually, yes. That's two lattes then. Thanks, Emma. I'll see you in a moment. Oh, what a day. Honestly, what a day. I know it's really hard. Glad when it's over. Of course. Yeah. Though I don't know who I feel more sorry for. Us or Helen and Pat. Well, I know who I feel more sorry for. So, thinking about the viewing window and our desire to engage with shoppers and visitors to Bridge Farm, can you give us a little spiel about our history? Right. Yeah. Right. Take your time, Susan. There's no rush. Oh, when did Bridge Farm turn organic? Was it 1986 or 87? I remember it was quite controversial at the time, wasn't it? People said you were ruining the farm. Do you remember that, Pat? That you were a bra burning radical? Yes, but obviously I wouldn't say that to the people in the viewing window about the bra burning radical thing. I mean, I'm not stupid, Peter. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm. I'm a bit nervous actually. I didn't think I was, but my heart's racing. Just. Just don't worry, Susan. You're amongst friends. But what would you say to the customers at the viewing window if they ask those sorts of questions? Right. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry, but why don't you start again? Deep breath from the beginning. Hi, Emma. Good morning, Mick. How are you? Fine. I'm fine. What can I get you? Oh, an Americano with a dash of milk, please. Anything else with that? No, no, thanks. No. Although the cakes look amazing. When Fallon moved on, you know, I thought. But, ah, Are the cake's going to be as good now, but they're just as good, if not better. But maybe just don't tell Fallon I said that. Yeah, sure. Do you make them all? Not all of them, no. Some of them we outsource. You can take a seat, Mick. I'll bring it over. No, you're all right. I can wait. Okay. We're moving back in tomorrow. Sorry? Beechwood. Joy and me are moving back in. Oh, that's good. Joy can't wait to get out of the Home Farm farmhouse. Really? Yeah. She lives in fear of breaking something or, you know, chucking red wine on the carpet. Well, I think you were lucky to get it. Really. Nice big house like that. Oh, yes, no, we were. We absolutely were. It's not that we're not grateful, just. Well, it'd be nice to get home, you know, Especially for Joy. Sure. I saw your photo on the Echo website. Did you? Great picture. Thanks. Emma. Hi, Emma. Can I have a word? Yeah, of course. Sorry, Mick. That's all right. I'll go and sit down. I'll bring it over. You can pay for it after. Ok? Right. Will do. Are you all right, ma'am? Well, no, not really, no. What's wrong? I made a complete hash of my interview. I'm sure you didn't. No, I did. I did. I was absolutely terrible. Honestly, I feel so embarrassed. It was like I couldn't get me words out, you know? I think I was more nervous than I thought. It was like getting in a car and then forgetting how to drive or something. Look, Helen and Pat know you. They know you're brilliant. Yeah, but if they have to base their decisions solely on today, then they are not gonna give me the job. Emma, I'm telling you, it was 1984 when Bridge Farm started to go organic. And I'd say that Bridge Farm was at the forefront of the organic movement. I mean, Pat, you and Tony were pioneers. Really. I know that might sound over the top, but it's true. We understand so much more now about the food we eat and the impact on our health and general well being. And I think the work we were doing at Bridge Farm in the early days sort of demonstrated an understanding of all this before it became summit that everyone knew about. And I'd say that I feel very proud that I was involved with such forward thinking practices. Wow. Thanks, Clary. Brilliant answer. Couldn't have put it better myself. Thank you. Okay, next question. Do you want to ask this one, Mum? Sure. Yeah. Mick. Robert. Do you mind if I sit here just for a moment? No, no, of course not. Please. Thank you. Everything all right? Well, not really, I'm afraid. What's going on? I have to say something and you might not like it much. All right. That sounds a bit terrifying. What's about Emma. Oh, yeah. Did you know she's thinking of resigning from the Parish Council? Really? Are you sure? Well, quite sure. I just spoke to her half an hour ago. Well, she never said anything to me just now. Well, she wouldn't, would she? Not to you. Do you know why she's thinking of just going? Because she'd rather jump before she's pushed. Oh, I see. I mean, I'm sure they're not actually going to get rid of her though, are they? That's not the point. The point is that she doesn't want to wait around and find out. And I can't say I blame her. Right. I know that when you lodged that complaint, you were angry, Mick. And believe it or not, I do understand how you must have felt. Really? I know what it's like to act in haste, perhaps acting foolishly when trying to protect someone you love. But in this instance, I really feel you've made a terrible mistake. George was responsible for what happened to you and Joy and the others. Not Emma. She's a good person. Who did a wonderful thing last Friday. Oh, no, yes, I agree. The protest was fantastic. And I really don't see why she should be punished by the Parish council when she's already suffered enough. I'm sorry, Mick, but in my opinion, you. You acted foolishly, recklessly and without regard for others. And I want you to think about that. Okay? Okay, I will. I will think about it. Well, good. Is that it? Are you done? Well, I know this is an absolute nightmare. Yes. Clary was completely brilliant. She was. What happened to Susan? I have no idea. I was not expecting that. No, neither was I. I don't want to make a decision based on that interview alone. Of course not. But on the other hand, it Hardly seems fair to ignore the fact that Clary was streets ahead in some areas. Indeed. Oh, Mum, I know. Nothing's ever easy, is it? Apparently not. I don't think we can make a decision today, do you? We don't want to leave Clary and Susan hanging on longer than necessary. No, but we don't want to get this wrong either. We said we'd tell them both as soon as possible. Should we say Friday? That seems like a long wait to me. It's only four days. Only? Look, Mum, I hate this, okay? Please don't make it any harder. I'm not. I wasn't. Goodness, Helen. I was just thinking of Clary and Susan. Sorry. I know. I didn't mean to snap. But I'm thinking of them, too, and they'll be pretty much all I'm thinking about for the next four days. Well, if you think that's how long you need. The basic dilemma is this. Do I give the job to Susan, who is senior and is arguably more highly skilled, or do I give it to Clary, who did a better interview? I really don't know what. What I'm going to do. You know, I was thinking. Perhaps we should start paying Khalil to feed palamas and possibly to walk them, too. What do you think? Yes, it could do. He fed them yesterday and the day before, and I feel he's. He's doing an awful lot. And with the warmer weather coming and more guests staying at the B and B, it might be quite helpful to all of us if we formalized the arrangement. Hmm. That makes sense. I do think he's a very unusual person, Robert Khalil. In the best possible way, of course. Most of his peers are glued to a digital device for 12 hours a day. He's out and about in the countryside tending to various animals. The goats at Bridge Farm, our llamas. And I just find it so refreshing. I agree. I do wonder, you know, if he might not become a vet. I got the impression he wasn't particularly keen on academia. You need the grades to become a vet. Well, I know he doesn't enjoy elements of school, but he's clearly very bright. Yes. I didn't mean he wasn't capable. But from what you said, he's had to miss a great deal of school. Robert, do you think Constanza is all right? She's just lying down, but she's. She's not moving at all. She's probably asleep. No. Something's not right. Oh. Oh, Robert. Oh, good Lord. Beck, I got a sec pass. Ah. Yeah. Did you pack those last bits we left on the bed? I did indeed. Brilliant. Thanks. Oh, I do love that robot thingama, you know, I'd love one at home. Oh, no, they're more trouble than they're worth. How? Well, just because, for a start, Ina wouldn't like it, I suppose. And the last thing we want is for it to get broken. Yeah. Hey, it must have been a wrench for Brian to leave this place, mustn't it? Brian and Jennifer? Yeah. Must have been awful. Brian says he still feels guilty about it. Did he say that to you? He did, yeah. Well, I didn't realize you'd had a proper heart to heart. Well, I wouldn't call it a heart to heart exactly. Right, I'm going to mop the bathrooms upstairs and then I think we're done, aren't we? I think we are. Oh, I know it's an amazing house, Mick, but I wouldn't swap it for beechwood. I really wouldn't. Fair enough. I'm so excited about going home. I think she must have eaten too much grass. Oh, poor old girl. Her stomach's very bloated. See, it happens to llamas sometimes when they're getting on a bit. Her stomach must have twisted, which constricted the blood flow. Oh, that sounds so painful, Alistair. Sounds awful. Well, then you get a buildup of toxins in the stomach and, well, basically she went into shock. Poor Constanza. I just can't believe it. I know that sounds silly because no one and nothing lives forever, do they? But I just. I just wasn't expecting it today. She hasn't been ill. There's been no signs, no warning. Well, in this instance, you wouldn't expect any signs, Linda. It's actually very quick, honestly. She wouldn't have known much about it, of course, Wendy. It's very sad. It is. But she did have a lovely life. She really did. Poor Salieri. He's. He's lost his mother. Yes. Will he be horribly lonely now? Well, they are a herd animal, so, yes, but he has the sheep in the next field, so he's not entirely a alone, which is good. And. And we can check in more often, can't we? Keep an eye on him? Absolutely. Oh, no. What? Hey, here comes Khalil. I thought he couldn't feed them. So did I. Had something on at school or maybe it got cancelled. Hi, Khalil. Hi. This is not how I wanted him to find out. Well, we can't exactly hide the situation. What's. What's going on? It's Bad news, I'm afraid. Oh, Khalil. It's Constanza. What's wrong with her? She's. She's died? Yes. No, no, no. But. But she was fine yesterday. She was fine. What happened? She's died from something called bloat. What's that? It's from eating too much grass. But I also fed her with her mineral and vitamin mix yesterday. Did I give her too much and accidentally poison her? No, no. Gosh, not at all. You're just saying that. Are you lying to me? Well, to be absolutely certain of the cause, I'd need to do a post mortem. And we wouldn't do something like that in this situation. So then it could have been me? No. No, it absolutely couldn't. Yeah, could have been something I fed her. Okay, just hang on a minute. Khalil, what exactly did you feed Constanza yesterday? A carrot? Yep. And a handful of her mix. Right. I think that was it. Well, that's all very good stuff for llamas. None of that could possibly have harmed her. Are you sure? I promise you. Then why did she have to die? Oh, Mick, doesn't it look lovely? Oh, it does. It really does. They've done a brilliant job. When I think what it looked like before. And now it's like a new house. Only better. Because it's ours. Hey, shall I put the kettle on? Oh, I thought you'd never ask. What was that? Sounded like footsteps. Is there someone in the house? Hello? Hello? Don't go up on your own. Mick. Is somebody there? Mick, don't. What if it's burglars? What if they're armed? Armed? I don't think that's very likely. You don't know? You don't know? Ma'am, is that you? Is that Rochelle? Ma'am? Rochelle, where have you been? Where have we been? I've been messaging and messaging you. Have you. Have you not looked at your phone? No, we. We were just. We were busy, weren't we? Have you been on holiday? Not exactly. Why? Has the house been completely redecorated? Did you not tell Rochelle what happened? Well, I haven't seen her. What's going on? It's a long story. Yeah, we've had a bit of a nightmare. What happened? Oh, there was a flood. Not a flood. A sewage leak. Basically. We had to move out, didn't we? Why didn't you tell us? Didn't want to worry you. Oh, that's what you always say. Well, it's true. How did you get into the house? Rochelle? I Used the key. What key? I left the key, you know, in the place. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. That's all right, isn't it? I let myself in. You said I could, ma'am, if I needed to. Of course, of course. It's all right. Of course it is. No, I was just asking. Anyway. Shall I put the kettle on? I'll put the kettle on. Roll? Oh, okay. Thanks. M. You left without really saying goodbye. What are you talking about? I said goodbye. I did. To me. But not to other people. Well, I wasn't going to go around the village singing Alveda, saying adieu, was I? No, of course not. Not. It's just that people were expecting you to be at the well Being workshop. Oh, I got all that organized before I left. Yeah, yeah. What? Nothing. I think people thought you were going to be there. Oh, right, right. But did it go okay? Yeah. There weren't tons of people there, but I think it went well. So it all worked out then? Yeah, in a manner of speaking. So what's gonna happen to her now? Well, they've taken her to be cremated at a special pet crematorium. Right. Her ashes will be brought back here, though, so she'll be at home. We have a funeral. A funeral? Well, some kind of ceremony. I'm not sure. We haven't really had a chance to discuss that, have we? No, not really. Will you get another llama to keep Salieri company? I wouldn't recommend that. It wouldn't work at all. Salieri is too old to adjust a new company. And he has the. The sheep and horses in the neighboring fields. Exactly. But it's not the same thing. No, but they're close by. If you like, I can give you a lift home. Khalil. No, it's all right. Thanks. I'll walk. See you soon. Okay, Khalil. Take care. See you soon. Oh, dear. Shall I go after him? No, no. I think leave him, don't you? I think so. You seem so sad. I feel quite worried about him. Well, it's been a shock, hasn't it? I think it's more than that. Well, at least you got the place decorated, I suppose. Yep, that's true. And it does look lovely. It does. So what else has been going on in the village apart from the sewage leaks? Well, this is still related to the sewage leak, actually. But we had a big protest on Friday against the water company. Oh, excellent. Ah, it was brilliant, actually. Practically the whole village was involved with 10 hours of non stop bell ringing in the church. Wow. I'm sorry I missed It. I love a protest for a good cause. So, Rochelle. Yeah? You left in a bit of a hurry last time. Well, I didn't want to outstay me welcome, did I? We were happy to have you here. We really were. And what about now? No. Are you happy to have us back? I'm always happy to see you whenever you like. You know that. What about you, Mick? You're Joy's daughter. A show, that's all that needs saying far as I'm concerned. So could I stay? Stay? Just for a bit. Temporarily sort of thing. I mean, I don't know how long exactly. And if you don't want us, then you can just tell us. Don't be polite. I mean, I think it's better if we're all just honest with each other, you know? Well, it's Joy's house, Rochelle. I mean, it's up to her. Well, you live here too now, Mick. It's your home, too. I've had to move out of my house. Share, See? All right. Why is that, then? Well, it really wasn't working anymore. Right. Nothing, you know, just. It was time to go. I need to find something else, really. Maybe live on my own. I mean. Oh, be nice to have my own space. But it's so expensive when you're single. That's the thing. Yeah. Yeah, I know what it's like. And I can't stay with Benny and the kids, can I? Can you not? Just temporarily. Oh, be realistic, ma'am. It wouldn't work, would it? Ex wife moves in with ex husband and his current partner. I don't think so. I suppose it wouldn't. I just think it'd be nice for the Bens. I do see them, ma'am. Oh, I know. I know you do. I see them all the time. I know. I was with them all weekend. And, oh, I had a great time. Swimming, cinema, pizza, football in the park. So can I stay here or not? I mean, it's a yes from me, from my perspective. But it's up to your mother, really. I mean, I don't feel it's my place to, you know. Well, of course you can stay here till you're back on your feet. Rochelle. It's not that I'm not on me feet, ma'am. I'm just temporarily without an address. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's what I meant. I was thinking I might have a bath. A bath? If that's okay. Yeah, sure. Course. Have a bath. Great. Oh, and I put my stuff in the same room I was in before. Is that okay, that's fine, Rochelle. That's fine, isn't it, Joy? Of course. Yeah. Okay, I'll see you in a bit. Okay, pet. Hey, Mom. Yes, love? It's nice to be back. Oh, it's nice to have you back. It really is. 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And as always, Simon and I are trying to decide whether we think they're good, bad or just another billion Billionaire. That's good. Bad Billionaire from the BBC World Service. Listen now, wherever you get your BBC podcasts. Hi, Linda. I'm so sorry just to turn up on your doorstep like this. Khalil. Oh, no, it's fine. It's lovely to see you. Well, I. I was worried about you after yesterday. No, it's fine. I'm fine. I was being ridiculous. No, not at all. Please don't worry. Honestly, I feel bad, actually, because, you know, Constanza was your llama, not mine. So. Are you okay? Yes. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I. I am sad, of course I am. But she did have a lovely long life and you can't ask for more than that. Really. Did you want anything else? Um, well, actually, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind too much, whether we could go for a walk. Hello, love. Oh, hiya, Mick. Didn't expect you home yet. Finished a bit early. How was your day? Oh, fine. Yeah. Good. Really? Though Susan was a bit upset in the shop this afternoon. Was she? Why not? About Emma. Emma? Oh, this business about the parish council. Oh, no, no, she never even mentioned that. I was thinking maybe I should go to the parish council meeting tomorrow night and Say something. Really? Oh, I don't know. I just don't want them to chuck Emma off the council. Oh, I'm sure they're not actually going to do that, are they? They'd have to be mad. She's such an asset. Yeah, that's what Robert said, which made me feel even worse. So what's wrong with Susan? Oh, she thinks she's messed up her interview for the Bridge Farm job. Apparently she answered one of the questions very badly. Well, one question's not gonna make or break, is it? I don't know. No idea. But apparently Helen says she's not gonna let Clary and Susan know till the end of the week, which seems a bit rough. Well, yeah. Rochelle not here? No, no, not right now. She went into Felpersham this afternoon to sign up with a new temping agency and she's not back yet. All right, so that's good that she's been proactive about finding work. Yeah. Is it really okay? Is what okay? That she's staying here for a bit. Of course it is. It's great, isn't it? You wanted to see more of your daughter, and now you are. I'm chuffed to bits for you. A what? You're a good man, Mick. Yeah, I'm all right, I suppose. You're better than all right. You're lovely. Well, thank you. I'm making a veggie chilli tonight. Will that be all right with you? I'll give it a try. You sure? Absolutely. But 10? What? Look, do you think maybe. I mean, while Rochelle's not here, we could have a talk? A talk? Well, I don't really know how to put this, and I don't want to stress you out, but. Go on. Well, I mean, what is actually going on with you and Rochelle? Well, what do you want to know exactly? Honestly, I want to know everything. Cuz I feel like I'm completely in the dark over what went on, you know, when she was a kid, but also what's going on now, and I can't really handle it anymore. Joy, I need you to be straight with me. This is great. This is brilliant. I'm walking llama. You are? So, I've been wondering whether you'd like to walk Sally on a regular basis. Really? I think he could do with it. Oh, yeah, I'd love to. I pay you, of course. You don't need to do that. Oh, I'd have to pay you, Khalil. I. I insist on it, I'm afraid. You're so nice, Linda. Well, I'm not saying it to be nice. I'm saying it because it's the right and proper thing to do. This is gonna be brilliant, doing this. Like, if ever I have a really bad day, like today, I can come here and walk Salieri and feel okay again. Why did you have a bad day today? I don't know, really. Just school is just bad. Well, there must be something you like about going to school. Yeah, I like home time. Khalil, I can't believe you don't enjoy a single lesson. You're such a bright boy. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm actually quite stupid. For goodness sake, that's not remarkable remotely true. My mum and sister, they're super smart. That's the reason why my mum goes into meltdown about ZINNAB Delivering takeaways 247 and being so undecided about what she's actually gonna do with her life. But I reckon she wouldn't mind if I didn't go to uni or if I didn't do anything with my life because she's got such low expectations of me. Oh, Khalil, I have never, ever got the impression that your mother has low expectations of you. Joy, I'm just thinking. Well, where to start, really? Well, why don't you start from the beginning? But, I mean, you do know some things already. Like the fact that Peter Mex had affairs. I do, yeah. And I know he left you and that must have been terrible, but, I mean, it's a very weird atmosphere between you and Rochelle. And I just have to act like everything's normal, and I just can't sort of do it anymore. Not if she's gonna be staying with us for a while. No, no, I understand that. I do. It's fair enough. So I sometimes wonder if Rochelle blames me for her dad leaving. You know, if she thinks I should have worked harder at the marriage. Really? Has she ever said that? I mean, she said lots of things over the years. I don't know, really, but I couldn't make that marriage work, Mick. I just couldn't. He had so many affairs. There was a woman in the office, another one who lived in our street, a neighbour, really. Someone else who worked at our local dry cleaners. What? I mean, he could be very charming when he wanted to be. And I suppose he was in the dry cleaners quite often, you know, because he had to wear suits for work. Honestly, another woman he slept with was a very close friend of mine. Some friend. Exactly. I mean, it was terrible. The things I discovered. The extent of his betrayal. Khalil, forgive me for asking this. Go on. But you seemed so sad yesterday. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I was being an idiot. Oh, no, I really don't think you were being an idiot. No, I was. I was like. Like I said before, I was ridiculous. Look, I feel I'm prying now, so please feel free to say that you simply don't want to talk about it. But I did wonder if your distress had anything to do with the time. Well, the time you spent in hospital. You know about that? I do. Oh. Your mother told me. Oh, right. I'm sorry if you didn't want me to know. No, no, it's okay. I don't mind you knowing. I just don't want everyone in the village knowing. No, of course not. Did my mum tell you about Bobby? No. Who's Bobby? This boy I knew who died. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah. So. I don't know, maybe it sounds stupid. Maybe when Constanza died, maybe it sort of brought all the stuff about Bobby back, you know? I mean, not that a llama diner and a person dying are the same thing. That's not what I'm saying. No, I know. Bobby was a bit older than me. He was the best. Amazing footballer. He'd been scouted for Birmingham Youth. Everyone liked him. Loved him, really. When he died, it was terrible, Linda. It was so bad. Oh, Khalil. He was on the same ward as me. I went to his funeral. That must have been so hard. It was. It really was. But. But it was also sort of amazing. Like, all of his football team were there in their kit, you know, standing at the front of the church when his cosmic got carried in and the whole team were just crying. And Bobby's mama face, it was just raw. Oh, Khalil. And I remember looking at her and thinking, that's how my mum's gonna look at my funeral. Oh, goodness. No, no, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to start saying all this. It's a bit. Sorry. I'm not good with all that sort of death stuff. I'm sorry. No, no, please don't apologize. Never said that last bit to anyone. Well, I'm. I'm very honoured you're saying it to me. Honoured? Yes, absolutely. I mean, it's come back once already, the cancer. I know. And it can always come back again. It's a very difficult thing to live with. I used to hate other kids asking me questions. You know, you become the cancer kid and everyone wants to Know what it's like. I hated that. The. The curiosity, you know? Oh, I do know. I've had people staring at my injuries, asking intrusive questions. And I really don't think it's true that your mother has low expectations of you, Khalil. I think she's just so completely thrilled that you're alive and you're well and you're thriving, and she has absolute faith that you'll find your way. She just doesn't want to rush you. Maybe. You know, I think there are a number of people in the local area who'd pay you to walk their dog. Really? Oh, yes. I think you could set up your own local business one day and do very, very well. I never even thought of dog walking. The thing is, you really love animals, and everyone loves their dog. All armor. Exactly. Allah. So you're exactly the kind of person people would love to employ. After Peter left, I think I ended up leaning on Rochelle too much, which is totally understandable. She did do quite a lot of the cooking and the cleaning, keeping the show on the road when I didn't have it in me, you know? Right. And we were absolutely broke. It was a real struggle financially. A bit, yep. It was just a dark time in our lives. And she and me, we've not really ever quite recovered, you know? Yeah. And I did. Well, I did go away for a couple of days during the summer holidays and leave her on her own. And she hasn't really forgiven me for that. I needed to get out of that house. But she was only 15, and she didn't like being left on her own. And she was too young, really, to leave like that. I still feel bad about doing that. Well, I mean, it wasn't ideal, of course, but I do understand why you did it. Thank you, Mick. Thanks for not judging me. I suppose. Joy, it's okay. Honestly, everything you've told me is so completely human and quite. Well, quite ordinary, really. But Rochelle doesn't see it like that. Maybe she doesn't have to see it like that. That summer she started playing up, staying out, making bad choices. Right. I've been trying to make up for that time in our lives ever since, trying to get her to forgive me. But I don't think she ever will. I don't think she can. But maybe now is the time, Joy. Maybe this is it. Right now. I mean, why not? You know, I wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue myself. Well, no one is, are there? Exactly. All we can do is be better people in the future. That's it. That's it. Oh, it's a massive relief to tell you everything. It's a pretty massive relief to hear it. But are you honestly all right with it? I honestly am. Can I have a hug, please? Of course you can. Of course you can. Come here. Oh, thank you. It's all good, Joy. It's all good. And it's only going to get better from now on in, I promise you. Emma. Oh, hello, Robert. We were so sorry to hear about Constanza. Oh, that's very kind. Look, I am glad to see you here, actually. I'm so glad. Do you want a tea before the meeting? Yes, yes, please. Thank you. Everything all right? Yes, yes, absolutely. Milk, no sugar, is it? What? Yes, please. No, no. I was afraid you wouldn't make it here at all, so I'm delighted. Well, I did consider that option, but didn't feel right. Just sending an email or something felt a bit cowardly, so I thought I'd do it in person. Do what in person? Oh, sorry. Sorry. I. I've decided I am definitely going to resign. No, no, no. Why? Well, I'm not doing it lightly, I promise. Thought about it a lot over the last few days, Emma. No, not honestly. This. This whole business is so wrong and so. So unnecessary. Yeah, well, it's a fight I just haven't got in me, Robert. But at the protest, you had all the fighting spirit in the world. Yeah, perhaps I used it all up last Friday. Please, please, let us have a robust discussion at the meeting and then you'll see. You'll see how much you're valued. But I don't want everyone talking about me. I've had enough of that. And what if you're wrong? Oh, how am I? Haven't missed it, have I? Missed what? The meeting. No, don't worry, you haven't missed it. Oh, good, good. That's a relief. Mick, you can't just waltz into a parish council meeting. You know, you. I wasn't planning on waltzing, Robert, but I need to say something. Something important. Haven't you said enough already? Why don't you just tell me what it is you think you need to say and I'll pass it on to Audrey. No, no, that won't do it. I've got a whole speech planned and everything. Saying what, exactly? Evening, Neil. Eddie. How are you? Oh, yeah, all right, not bad. What you up to? Oh, just fancy the quiet pint. You know, Susan's around at Tracy's tonight. They're watching some soppy film or other girls night. In sort of thing. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. Trying not to think about. Well, you know. What? Oh, yeah? What about Clary? Oh, her and Edward have taken young Poppy and Kira to the pictures, actually. Oh. Oh, that's good. So. Well, same idea, really. Forget about tomorrow. Till Tomorrow Comes. Wasn't that a film? Till Tomorrow Comes. It seems like it, didn't it? Or was it a song? Don't know. Never mind. Doesn't matter. I do wish that Bridge Fong could have just told them both straight after the interview. Yeah, I know. It's not fair keeping them both hanging on. But unfortunately, these days we've all got procedures we have to follow. Yeah, I suppose. How's Clary coping with it? She's all right. Feeling philosophical. Que sera sera and all that. Actually, I wanted to talk to you about something. Now, go on. Well, a couple of days ago I heard a rumor that Martin Gibson is on the board at Borset Shear Water. Really? Have you ever heard that? No, I haven't. Oh, maybe it's not true then. I mean, it would make sense of his behavior at our bell ringing protest, wouldn't it? Well, that's what I thought. Who told you this? Oh, my mate who works at the market. Wonder how we find out if it's true. He's your boss, so couldn't you just ask him? I could try, I suppose, but I doubt if he'd give me a straight answer. Especially as he threatened me with a sack over the bell ringing. Oh, yeah, he can be very slippery, can Martin Gibson. Well, I suppose the board members names might be on their website. And I'd like to thank the lady chairman, if that's the right word for you, Audrey, for letting me speak all this time. I will stop in a minute, but I want to take it back, my complaint about Emma. Please, please, can I do that? I mean, who here can say they've never done anything they regret? Raise your hand if you've never done anything wrong in your whole life. See, no one is raising their hand. We're all human. We're all fallible. Right, that's it. That's it. Cheers for listening. How are things generally, Eddie? They're all right. Yeah, I'm all right, Tara. The rumors of my impending death having been greatly exaggerated. Oh, yeah, Kieran. Poppy's brilliant plan. Neat, wasn't it? Very neat. Though a little inappropriate. I really broke the ice with George. Yeah, Emma was very glad to see him. Yeah, and Clary too. And I have spoken to George since. Oh, that's good. Just on the phone. You know, to reassure him that I wasn't dying or nothing. How did he sound? Okay. Okay, I think. You know, getting. Boy, it's hard to tell just from a phone call, ain't it? I suppose it is. Well, I hope one day he'll agree to see us, Susan and me. Oh, no doubt he will in the end. We do miss him terribly. It must have been very, very painful for you, Neil, to call the police on George. Oh, I do know that. I mean, I always knew it, really. It was painful heading. It was agony. Wonderful speech, Mick. I thought it went on a bit, to be honest. No, no, I'm joking. You were brilliant. Oh, I don't know about that. Oh, you were. We were all spellbound. Spellbound? Yes. At one point you could have heard a pin drop. Well, I didn't know what I was seeing, really. I mean, I had things written down on that bit of paper, but then they all went out the window in a bit of a blind panic. Oh, but thank you, Mick. I do appreciate what you said. Oh, please don't thank me, please. Like Robert said, this whole fiasco was my fault. Did I say that? Well, something like that. No, I. I think I said. You said I was reckless and thoughtless and stupid. Stupid? I don't think I was quite as harsh as that, was I? Well, I can't remember exactly what you said, but that was the gist. And you were absolutely right. I was just lashing out and it was wrong of me. Well, you've made up for it now. I hope so. You have. You really have. But you've had a lot to deal with, Emma, and I shouldn't have added to your woes. You would never have been in that position if I hadn't caused all this trouble. And you wouldn't have been in that river if it wasn't for my son. But that wasn't you, was it? That was George. All right, all right. How about we say what's done is done and let the matter rest? I'll drink to that. Me too. Shall we get a swift pint in, then march out? What time is it now? Oh, nearly 9:00. It's not. Well, time flies when you're having fun, Neil. Thank you. Clar will be home now, wondering where I've got to. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry, Eddie. Not at all. It's been good to chat. Yes, it has. Yeah. I feel as if it was needed, you know. Too true. I know we don't spend a lot of time together, you and me, but we're family. Neil and I do care about you. Likewise, Eddie. And look who's just walked through the door. Emma. Hey, dad. Hello, sweetheart. Hello, love. What you two doing here? Oh, we just chatted. Eddie and I have ended up having a sort of accidental night out, haven't we? Oh, that's nice. What are you doing here, then? Oh, we've just finished the parish council meeting. Of course you have. Robert and Mick will be over in a sec. But how did it go? Oh, dad, it went really well. I'm staying on, basically. Of course you are. Too right and all the thing was ridiculous. But don't say anything to Mick, dad, because he was really lovely in the end. I suppose he's seen that blaming the wrong people doesn't really get you anywhere in the long run. Well, I am feeling mighty relieved, I must say. Yes, all's well that ends well. And Emma even had a nod of approval from Audrey. I know she couldn't believe it, could she? Correct me if I'm wrong. I actually think it was quite Catholic. Well, I think you might be right there. But not just for you, for. For Emma as well. Well, it'd be nice to think that's true. Right, let's take these drinks over. Well done, you. Thank you. Good evening, all. Hey, that makes you seem like a copper robber. Really? I can't see you as a policeman, Robert. Oh, no, me neither. Right, I've got one pint of shires with one pint of lager and a Sauvignon blanc for the lady and an absolute mountain of crisps. The sauvignon is. Is for me, not Emma. Oh, sorry, Robert, my mistake. The shires is for me. Thanks very much, mate. Hey, it's the least I can do. Can we open them, Chris? Help yourself, Eddie, help yourself. But which flavor, Eddie? I know. Spoiled for Joy. Well, I didn't want to look stingy, you know. Ah, help yourself, everyone. Thanks. Mick made a brilliant speech this evening about how wonderful Emma is. Oh. Oh. Good night. It was very embarrassing, actually. So, where are Susan and Clary tonight? Do they know yet who's keeping their job? No, no, it's awful, really, them being in competition with each other. Not that they blame bridge F. Oh, no, the blame is firmly on Borsetshire water, surely? And perhaps Martin Gibson. What's Martin got to do with it? Well, Eddie thinks Martin might be on the ball. Good. Really? You are joking. So you think that's why he completely lost it at the protest? I mean, I don't know for sure that it's true. And we shouldn't jump to conclusions. Nothing would surprise me less. So when will Bridge Farm let Clary and Susan know? Tomorrow? Yeah, we find out tomorrow. In fact, I would like to propose a toast, if we I may, to my dear wife, Susan and Eddie's dear wife, Clary. Whatever happens tomorrow, they always were and always will be the absolute best of women. To Clarry and Susan. Cheers. Morning, Rochelle. Oh, morning, Mick. Where's your mum? Oh, she's gone to the shop, actually, to pick up stuff for a nice breakfast. That's. It's your day off. Oh, great. Yeah. What are your plans for today, then? Well, I'm not exactly sure. Maybe I'll spend a bit of time with you, ma'am. Oh, she'd like that. Don't want to get in the way of you two, though. Don't worry about that. Well, I know it's unexpected having us here. It's okay, Rochelle. It's good. And I wanted to let you know I'm sorry. About what? Well, Joy has actually finally told me a bit about what happened after your dad left. Has she? Has she really? Sounds like it was really hard for you. Like you were carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders. I was. Yeah, I did. And you were so young. I can't believe she told you. Well, yeah. Yeah. It wasn't easy for her because, you know, she feels ashamed. That's amazing. I'm so pleased she did that. Well, she feels embarrassed that you had to do all the housework and the shopping and that. I mean, I didn't mind doing housework. All the shopping. I mean, that wasn't exactly the worst bit. What was the worst bit? Sorry, Mick, but what exactly has my mom said to you? Clary. It's okay, Helen. I know what you're gonna say. Do you? Susan's got the job, hasn't she? Yes. I'm so sorry. It's all right. Honestly. I understand. You didn't make it an easy decision. Good. Your interview. You were stunning. Well, I suppose that's some. It absolutely is. Though in a way, it hardly seems worth it now. Please don't say that. It's a fantastic skill to interview well. Oh, I don't know if I could interview so well anywhere else. Though I suppose I've got a passion for this place, for this job. It's good you've come to a decision anyway, before the weekend. And I'm pleased for Susan, I am. So you're entitled to 12 weeks notice, right? Mum And I agree that you don't have to work that Notice. But obviously we'd still pay you for those weeks. Oh, right. Right. Plus, you'll get your redundancy package and there's some outstanding holiday pay you will have accrued. I see. So it adds up to a fair bit. I hope that helps. Yeah, should do. And when things get better here, and I really, really hope they will, then we'd love to have you back. If you want to come back, that is. You don't have to say that, Helen. No, I'm really not saying it for the sake of it. I'm devastated to lose you, if I'm honest. Please don't get upset, Helen, because it doesn't help me see. Sorry. Sorry, I don't mean to be harsh. No, no, you're right. I'm just gonna get back to work, then, if that's all right. Well, you don't have to. You mean I could leave right now? Just walk out? Well, yes, if that's what you want to do, but that doesn't feel right at all. I mean, I was just about to start a new patch of yog. I'm really sorry, but she was never gone for only a couple of days. It was more like a couple of months. A couple of months? It was most of the school summer holidays, I reckon. And in that whole time, she sent us one postcard. A postcard. I am fine. Don't worry about me. Don't worry about me. I mean, are you sure? Am I sure about what? It was that long? Two months. I mean, six weeks. It was definitely six weeks. Like, other kids were having holidays in France or Spain, and I was just sitting around the house, so I started having friends round and they brought their friends and our house became known for being like the party house. And things got quite out of hand, you know, it was chaos. And I was so vulnerable. I mean, then I really was vulnerable. So. So the idea of me mam going round Ambridge over Christmas telling everyone. I'm vulnerable now and I'm a grown woman and I'm perfectly fine. I mean, I don't think she went round telling everyone. She told Rex. Rex, who I think was actually quite interested in me romantically. And maybe it wouldn't have gone anywhere, but he seemed like a good person and I could do with meeting someone like that for once in me life, but. But no, she had to sabotage that, didn't she? I don't think that's what she was trying to do. Well, you wouldn't, would you? But back then, did she tell anyone that she'd left me on my own when I was 15. Did she tell anyone to keep an eye out or check on me or anything when I really was incredibly vulnerable? No, she did not. I'm sorry, Rochelle, but what about, like, social services or other parents, People in the street, Neighbours? I don't know. It was. It was just like I was sort of invisible, you know? It sounds absolutely horrendous. It was. Honestly, I had no idea. And that was the summer that Elvis died. Sorry, sorry, when was that? Late 90s. But Elvis died in 77. Our dog, Elvis, he brought a dog called Elvis Mech. I love that dog so much. He died the day before me mam disappeared. So she left us with a dead dog to deal with, along with everything else. Did she know? Did she know that Elvis was dead? Yes. Oh, blimey. Rochelle. And I didn't know what to do with the body, did I? So what did you do? I left him. I just left him. How long for? Too long. In the end. Me and this lad I hardly knew were buried Elvis together in the back garden. It was. It was bad. And he was really heavy, you know? Do you know how heavy a dead dog is? I mean, we're not talking about a Yorkshire terrier. What kind of dog was he? A German shepherd. That is one big dog. Yeah, it is. Hiya. I'm back. Hi. Oh, I couldn't get any soya milk, Rochelle, but I've got oat milk. Oat milk's all right, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, and I bumped into Linda and the shop, and she was quite upset because Constanza died on Monday. I didn't know. Did you know, Mick? No, I didn't. Who's Constanza? Linda's llama. Oh. She was ever so sad. I felt really sorry for her. How do they dispose of a dead llama, do you think? Sorry? I imagine they cremate them, don't you? So Linda probably won't have had to bury a large semi decomposed animal with her bare hands in a heat wave then, will she? Rochelle, what are you talking about? Helen said I don't have to work my notice, but I can't take the money and run. I just can't do it. Oh, Clarence. All right. It's all right, Susan. I wish she'd. It didn't have to be this way. Just want to get on with my work, if I'm honest. I mean, I don't want tea and sympathy. Okay. I know everyone feels bad and I know everyone's sorry, but it just makes it harder for Me. I understand. I just want to get back to the job and enjoy doing it while I can and chat about other things. The ordinary things. Things we usually talk about. At least for today. Okay. Okay, we can do that. So I'm gonna start a new batch of yogurt. Right? And I'll start a new lot of ball since you blew. Okey doke. But it's just not true. I told you. Which bit. Which bit's not true, George? I was never gone for six weeks. That's ridiculous. I wouldn't do that. But you did. You did. I didn't. Not so, Joy. You're saying it really was just two days? Well, maybe not two days. Maybe it was four or five. Four or five? Okay, there's no way it was six weeks. I mean, honestly, Mick, you can't think I'd do something like that to my own daughter. Well, you said yourself you're in a bad way. I was. I was in a bad way. You were practically catatonic. I was not. You were. I was frightened. I know you did a lot of housework, work, and that wasn't right. And I've told Mick that. Didn't I tell you that, Mick? You did. And you left us to deal with Elvis. Elvis was alive when I left. He wasn't. He wasn't, ma'am. You just don't remember cuz you blocked it all out. Cuz you're too ashamed or too dishonest or too screwed up or whatever the hell it is that's wrong with you. Okay. Okay. I just need a minute. No. No. No way. You have to listen to this. I had to bury our dead dog with the help of this lad I hardly knew. And then I felt like this weird obligation to sleep with him because he'd done us a favor. What? That's horrible. Yeah, it is. Yeah. You never told me that. I did. I did tell you. I don't remember that. I've told you since then, too. You just conveniently forget. We've talked about this all before and you just go and forget every time, and it's exhausting. I can't take this, Rochelle. I just can't take this. This character assassination for the Mick. Where are you going, Joy? Just upstairs, ma'am. Just leave me alone, will you? Bother you. How's it going? Good. Good. Yep. Carrie and I were just saying you need to print some more labels for the yogurt. Right. And I could do with that list for the veg boxes when you got second. Helen. I'll ask Tom to bring it over. But yeah, yeah, we're doing all right, aren't we, Clary? We are. We're doing well. Okay. Well, if you need anything, I'll be in the packing shed. I said I'd give Tom a hand, if that's okay. Absolutely fine, Helen. Okay. Well, I'll see you later. Should we put the Ryjo on? Oh, yeah, that'd be nice. Radio Borsit shire. Oh, why not? I do feel a bit sorry for Helen, you know. Why? Because she obviously feels awful. Well, that's for her to deal with, I'm afraid. If me and you have just got to get on with it, then so has she. Do you want another coffee, Mick? I need something stronger than coffee. Sorry about all this. I don't know what to say. I feel completely out my depth. Look, Mick, I like it. You seem like a decent person. And I don't mean to chuck hand grenades into your relationship with me, ma'am, but I just can't pretend, you know? Sure. I just can't go along with whatever she says, whatever la la land she's living in. No, no, that's fair enough. Right, I'm off. Sorry. And he eats some time away from here. Here Sounds familiar. Sorry, hang on a minute. Off where? I'm not sure, Joy. This is too weird. I'm sorry, Mick. I know it seems a bit erratic. Erratic? But I just need some time by myself to think things through. Think what things through? You can't just walk out the door with no idea where you're going. Surely that's what you did last time. Will you stop, Rochelle, Will you stop filling Mick's head with all these stories, please? 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