The Artificial Intelligence Show – Episode 186 Detailed Summary
Episode Title:
GPT-5.2, Disney-OpenAI Deal, New Trump AI Executive Order, OpenAI State of Enterprise AI Report, Teen AI Usage & Data Centers in Space
Release Date:
December 16, 2025
Hosts:
Paul Roetzer (Founder/CEO, Marketing AI Institute)
Mike Kaput (Chief Content Officer, SmarterX)
Episode Overview
This episode of The Artificial Intelligence Show (Ep. 186) closes out 2025 with a flurry of major AI industry news and developments. Paul and Mike dissect the release of OpenAI’s GPT-5.2 and its 10th anniversary, Disney’s landmark licensing deal with OpenAI’s Sora, President Trump’s sweeping executive order aiming for a single US AI regulatory standard, OpenAI’s enterprise report, new Google Cloud research on AI ROI, and a look at cutting-edge infrastructure like space-based data centers. They also examine how teens use AI, emerging workforce training, and practical marketing tools leveraging generative AI.
Key Topics & Insights
1. OpenAI Turns 10 & GPT-5.2 Launch
[06:27–22:42]
Highlights:
- OpenAI celebrated its 10th anniversary with the launch of GPT-5.2, a model designed to be faster, more adept at "reasoning," and especially strong on complex knowledge work.
- GPT-5.2 “Thinking” scored ~71% on the GDP VAL benchmark vs. 39% for GPT-5.1 “Thinking” (released just one month prior).
- Wharton’s Ethan Mollick observed: GPT-5.2 “is now winning 71% of the time on tasks that require 4-8 hours of human expert work.”
- OpenAI is “almost certain to build superintelligence in the next 10 years.” – (Sam Altman, [08:00])
Deep Dive:
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GDP VAL: New benchmark based on 1,300 real-world (economically valuable) tasks—such as legal briefs, blueprints, customer support, and nursing plans—graded blindly by expert humans.
- GPT-5.2 output >11x the speed and <1% the cost of expert professionals.
- Hallucination rates dropped >30% from the last version.
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Industry Shift: Early AI benchmarks were generic “IQ tests,” but now labs and users need to measure performance on specific, practical work tasks.
Notable Quotes:
- “What they're trying to do with GDP VAL... is measure impact on knowledge work—how these models actually stack up versus a human at doing our actual jobs.” – Paul ([08:30])
- “When you use it for more things, you save 5x more time.” – Mike ([46:04])
OpenAI Ten-Year Reflection:
- Paul recalls OpenAI’s 2015 nonprofit mission: “Our goal is to advance digital intelligence... unconstrained by a need to generate financial return...”—noting much of that vision has since changed.
- Sam Altman’s 2025 reflection:
“I believe we are almost certain to build superintelligence. I expect the future to feel weird... the people of 2035 will be capable of things we can’t imagine.” ([20:35])
2. Disney-OpenAI $1 Billion Sora Video Deal
[22:43–32:41]
Summary:
- Disney becomes the first major Hollywood studio to license its content to an AI video platform (OpenAI Sora), investing $1B, and opening use of over 200 characters across Disney, Pixar, Marvel, and Star Wars.
- Sora users (as of 2026) can generate short-form videos with iconic characters, but use of human likeness/voices is explicitly excluded.
- This comes as Disney is also actively litigating and sending cease-and-desist orders to Google, Meta, and others for using Disney IP without permission.
- Labor groups and artists express outrage, noting the original creators see no compensation.
Analysis:
- “Use IP without permission to train AI models, get rewarded with a $1 billion equity and licensing deal.” – Paul ([24:11])
- “This will all end in licensing deals… There’s no way this becomes anything else.” – Paul ([29:47])
- Smaller companies lacking leverage or resources will go out of business, get acquired, or be “acquihired” as legal risks rise.
Paul’s Core Prediction:
- Major media companies will force licensing deals; only AI juggernauts can afford to pay and play. The smaller innovators will likely be pushed aside or absorbed.
3. Trump Administration Executive Order: Federal AI Supremacy
[32:41–44:17]
Key Points:
- President Trump signed an EO overriding state-level AI laws in favor of a single national standard, “to sustain and enhance US global AI dominance.”
- The order empowers the Attorney General to challenge states with stricter laws, threatens to withhold broadband/funding from noncompliant states, and frames decentralized rules as threats to competition with China.
- There are carveouts for child safety and local infrastructure. Copyright issues will remain federal.
- Legal experts expect fast court challenges, since only Congress can preempt state law.
- Tech investors praise it, some governors and bipartisan lawmakers vow to fight it.
Analysis:
- The order establishes a “Litigation Task Force” to sue states, but NOT a policy framework. No real national standard is described; timeline for any real framework is undefined.
- “Any plan to restrict acceleration of AI would reduce, in their minds, ability for AI supremacy over China.” – Paul ([36:10])
- Unclear political alignment; “Nobody on either side of the aisle knows what to do with AI.” ([43:06])
Notable Quotes:
- “This executive order is not about establishing that national framework. It is about stopping regulation and accelerating AI at all costs.” – Paul ([34:17])
- “It's a becoming a very divisive issue within politics... you’re going to have Republicans that hate this executive order, you're going to have Democrats that hate it, and then you have a mix that like kind of like the direction.” ([43:06])
4. OpenAI’s Enterprise AI Adoption Report
[44:17–52:01]
Highlights:
- 1 million+ business customers, 7 million ChatGPT workplace seats.
- Enterprise ChatGPT message volume grew 8x, complex (“reasoning”) tokens 320x per org year-over-year.
- Time savings: 40–60min/day for average users; power users (>top 5%) engage 6x more, report 5x the time saved.
- Custom GPTs: 20% of messages now via custom GPTs or Projects; use up 19x.
- Usage Gap: Only 10% of U.S. workers report daily AI use; 23% weekly. 45% say they use at all (Gallup).
Insights:
- Despite the hype, AI adoption is still nascent. Most workplaces have not meaningfully implemented, and most people are not behind.
- “Most people still haven't figured this out and are not using it daily. No matter what AI bubble you're living in, you’re not way behind.” – Paul ([51:39])
- Workers who “do more things” with AI see much larger productivity gains.
5. Google Cloud: Generative AI ROI by Industry
[53:03–56:12]
Key Stats:
- Agentic AI adoption is already above 50% in manufacturing, telecom, and retail.
- 78% of manufacturing/retail leaders see ROI now.
- AI pilot-to-production timelines are down to 3–6 months.
- Data privacy and security remain top concerns.
Insights:
- Agentic systems (“specialized LLMs with specific roles...to independently plan, reason, and perform tasks”): Adoption growing, but definitions and expectations are still evolving.
- Reports are useful for proving business value to skeptics or leadership in those sectors.
- “If you’re trying to make the business case for AI in your industry, these are good data points to pull.” – Paul ([54:41])
6. Microsoft Copilot: Slow ROI & The Satirical ‘Adoption’ Rant
[56:12–62:08]
Summary:
- According to The Information, Microsoft has lowered Copilot growth targets as enterprise adoption lags; firms struggle with integration and ROI measurement.
- Microsoft counters that quotas haven’t changed, but soft metrics are murky.
- Change management, AI literacy, and use-case education—not just product quality—drive value.
Parody Tweet (Peter Gurness, [58:22]):
"...47 people had opened it. 12 had used it more than once. One was me...I used it to summarize an email I could have read in 30 seconds..."
This satirical thread ridicules meaningless metrics, performative AI adoption, and pressure for “AI enablement” dashboards, reflecting much of the real-world implementation gap.
Key Takeaway:
- “I have had actual conversations like this with real leaders and actual enterprises.” – Paul ([62:08])
7. Time Magazine’s 2025 ‘Person of the Year’ — The Architects of AI
[62:08–65:56]
Coverage:
- Jensen Huang (Nvidia), Sam Altman (OpenAI), Masayoshi Son (Softbank), Mark Zuckerberg (Meta), Demis Hassabis (DeepMind) named collectively.
- Article dubs 2025 “the year the industry sprinted toward new deployment,” and details the economic, social, and legal disruption underway.
Notable Quote:
- “AI is going to cause that $100 trillion [in GDP] to become $500 trillion.” – Jensen Huang ([65:03])
8. Infrastructure: Data Centers in Space & AI’s Physical Limits
[66:03–74:31]
Main Points:
- Insights from investor Gavin Baker (from Invest Like the Best), predicting the next massive shift: space-based data centers to overcome power, cooling, and compute bottlenecks.
- Satellites get 24/7, 30% stronger sunlight; cooling is “free” in shadow; enables nearly unlimited AI compute at scale.
- Elon Musk’s SpaceX is positioned to dominate, justifying its $800B–$2T valuations.
Notable Quote:
- “The most important thing to happen in the world in the next 3-4 years is data centers in space.” – Gavin Baker ([67:22])
9. Practical AI: Shopify Sim Gym, Simulating Customers Before You Launch
[74:31–78:36]
Key Features:
- “Sim Gym” lets stores simulate human-like digital customers navigating their sites, allowing pre-launch testing and A/B testing without live traffic.
- Based on billions of actual purchase data points.
- Could rapidly accelerate website and marketing optimization, threaten traditional market research firms, and alter creative workflows.
Takeaway:
- “It will be weird to do marketing, sales, or customer success without first simulating everything.” – Paul ([76:10])
10. Teen AI Usage & Parental Guidance
[78:37–81:08]
Key Data (Pew Research, Dec 2025):
- 64% of US teens have used AI chatbots; ~30% use them daily.
- ChatGPT dominates teen market share (59%), with lower income and non-white teens more likely to use daily.
- Only 5% of parents feel prepared to formally guide their kids’ AI interactions.
Observations:
- “Watch out, these teens are about to join the workforce as true ‘AI natives.’” – Paul ([79:53])
- Many children get no guidance about AI use from their parents — both opportunity and risk.
11. OpenAI Launches Workforce Training Certifications
[81:11–83:21]
Details:
- First certification tracks: AI Foundations (practical skills), plus ChatGPT Foundations for Teachers via Coursera.
- Pilot partners include Walmart, John Deere, BCG.
- Focused on verifiable, job-ready skills—credentialed, integrated inside ChatGPT itself.
- Early feedback is positive; hosts recommend everyone collect as many vendor certifications as possible.
Insights:
- “If they’re making this education free, go do it.” – Paul ([83:21])
Notable Quotes & Timestamps
| Time | Speaker | Quote | |---------|--------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 08:30 | Paul | “What they're trying to do with GDP VAL… is measure impact on knowledge work…” | | 15:02 | Mike | “It just really emphasizes… the need… for formal benchmarks or standardized benchmarks…” | | 20:35 | Sam Altman | “I believe we are almost certain to build superintelligence. I expect the future to feel weird…” | | 24:11 | Paul | “Use IP without permission to train AI models, get rewarded with a $1 billion equity and licensing deal.”| | 29:47 | Paul | “This will all end in licensing deals… There’s no way this becomes anything else.” | | 34:17 | Paul | “This executive order is not about establishing that national framework. It is about stopping regulation and accelerating AI at all costs.”| | 36:10 | Paul | “Any plan to restrict acceleration of AI would reduce, in their minds, ability for AI supremacy over China.”| | 46:04 | Mike | “When you use it for more things, you save 5x more time.” | | 51:39 | Paul | “Most people still haven't figured this out and are not using it daily. No matter what AI bubble you're living in, you’re not way behind.”| | 62:08 | Paul | “I have had actual conversations like this with real leaders and actual enterprises.” | | 65:03 | Jensen Huang | “AI is going to cause that $100 trillion [in GDP] to become $500 trillion.” | | 67:22 | Gavin Baker | “The most important thing to happen in the world in the next 3-4 years is data centers in space.”| | 76:10 | Paul | “It will be weird to do marketing, sales, or customer success without first simulating everything.”|
Useful Resources & Links (Referenced During Episode)
- [OpenAI GPT-5.2 announcement & benchmarking details]
- [Sam Altman 10-year OpenAI anniversary blog post]
- [Disney–OpenAI Sora licensing press release]
- [Variety: Disney sues Google over AI IP]
- [N.Y. Times: Trump EO to override state AI laws]
- [OpenAI State of Enterprise AI report]
- [Gallup poll on workplace AI usage]
- [Google Cloud AI ROI research by industry]
- [Peter Gurness satirical Copilot adoption tweet]
- [Time “Architects of AI” cover story]
- [Invest Like The Best: Gavin Baker interview]
- [Shopify Sim Gym announcement]
- [Pew Research: US Teen AI Usage]
- [OpenAI professional certifications]
(Refer to show notes for direct links)
Final Thoughts
The episode delivers a packed, rapid-succession survey of the most critical issues, milestones, and controversies shaping the AI industry as 2025 closes. Whether you’re a business leader, policy watcher, enterprise practitioner, marketer, educator, or just an AI-curious listener—you’ll find invaluable insights on the pace of technology, enterprise adoption, regulatory battles, business model shifts, and the human skills challenges that will define the coming year.
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